Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
I decided to take a peek at Mr. Ihnatko's blog. From the home page, it's apparent that his career depends on the continued success of the iPhone. That discredits him sufficiently in my mind. Furthermore, he can't write in proper English: Ah: but my iPhone spends a lot of time in it’s car cradle. It’s my music player and my GPS. Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:52 AM, mike wrote: Good review/comparison of the new moto droid with the usual comparisons to the iPhone. It’s a long list and the basic point is that the Android OS shows severe signs of a product team whose motto is “It works; let’s ship it and go home.” Okay? Let’s put that on record. As a user, I think the iPhone is vastly superior. End of story * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] droid self-photography?
Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell phone take pictures of itself? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
OK, that was tongue in cheek. Read the blog at http://www.goog_1257606783409 *ihnatko. goog_1257606783409*com/ http://www.ihnatko.com/ On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell. phone take pictures of itself? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Well increased sales, increased number or devices running android. I realize you often need construction paper and crayons to understand simple things, I'm just not going to take the time to try and help you out this time. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2009, at 9:27 PM, mike wrote: With android making inroads, do they need one? You got any proof of that? Or is this empty propaganda? Why am I not surprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, this makes up for any issues their might be For me, the killer feature of a cell phone is being able to make and receive phone calls. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
A lot of what Andy does is tongue in cheek. I've listened to him for quite some time on macbreak weekly and he is an uber geek on the order of star wars/ADD/comic book/computer gadget fan boy. I posted the review because I thought it was one of the more fair minded ones out there. He is indeed making money off the iphone, but it's hardly his entire life, I do think he should have mentioned he was writing a iphone manual in the review. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: OK, that was tongue in cheek. Read the blog at http://www .goog_1257606783409 *ihnatko. goog_1257606783409*com/ http://www.ihnatko.com/ On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell. phone take pictures of itself? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In several reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest part of the iPhone, it does most other things very well...calling not so good. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, this makes up for any issues their might be For me, the killer feature of a cell phone is being able to make and receive phone calls. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
If they were accurate, some of his critical comments about the Droid were useful to me. db mike wrote: A lot of what Andy does is tongue in cheek. I've listened to him for quite some time on macbreak weekly and he is an uber geek on the order of star wars/ADD/comic book/computer gadget fan boy. I posted the review because I thought it was one of the more fair minded ones out there. He is indeed making money off the iphone, but it's hardly his entire life, I do think he should have mentioned he was writing a iphone manual in the review. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: OK, that was tongue in cheek. Read the blog at http://www .goog_1257606783409 *ihnatko. goog_1257606783409*com/ http://www.ihnatko.com/ On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell. phone take pictures of itself? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
Keep in mind, not all android phones are equal. Verizon released two droid phones this week, the other may be closer to what you need. Some of the manufacturers like HTC and Samsung are putting front ends on android and enabling more capabilities along with the front ends. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:46 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: If they were accurate, some of his critical comments about the Droid were useful to me. db mike wrote: A lot of what Andy does is tongue in cheek. I've listened to him for quite some time on macbreak weekly and he is an uber geek on the order of star wars/ADD/comic book/computer gadget fan boy. I posted the review because I thought it was one of the more fair minded ones out there. He is indeed making money off the iphone, but it's hardly his entire life, I do think he should have mentioned he was writing a iphone manual in the review. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: OK, that was tongue in cheek. Read the blog at http://www .goog_1257606783409 *ihnatko. goog_1257606783409*com/ http://www.ihnatko.com/ On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell. phone take pictures of itself? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Rather than just bickering about it, tell us a little about these people. I, for one am curious about who is running Win7and why. Like: are they putting it on work machines or personal machines? Is it mostly preinstalls on new machines or upgrades on old machines, and if the latter, was it from XP or Vista? Also, on the upgrades, are they running to se7en or fleeing their old OS? My own expectations are that I just don't see all that many XP users rushing out to upgrade, and I can't imagine businesses being ready for a while yet. From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear And I know dozens already running W7. Very serious people. What's this supposed to prove? Proof that you hang with hopeless fan bois. You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Just not a clue. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Don't know what it's worth, but 7 is being picked up at a rate of over 200% greater than Vista in the same time period. I've been running 7 since before the official beta and have not had one issue on three other newer versions. I think it's a given that most people running 7 are from new installs, I really can't imagine normal people upgrading...but who knows. A friend who does network support etc, didn't put win 7 on till it was officially released, he didn't want to attempt the beta. He was running vista, and did a clean install. As did I...every time. Everyone I know who is running it is a hobbyist or in the industry in some way, none of them have had negative experiences with it of the dozen or so I know personally. This doesn't mean it's been perfect, just that there has been no cry of I can't take it, I'm going back to xp. At this point I wouldn't want to go back to XP, win 7 has been rock solid for me, everything runs and works just great. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: Rather than just bickering about it, tell us a little about these people. I, for one am curious about who is running Win7and why. Like: are they putting it on work machines or personal machines? Is it mostly preinstalls on new machines or upgrades on old machines, and if the latter, was it from XP or Vista? Also, on the upgrades, are they running to se7en or fleeing their old OS? My own expectations are that I just don't see all that many XP users rushing out to upgrade, and I can't imagine businesses being ready for a while yet. From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear And I know dozens already running W7. Very serious people. What's this supposed to prove? Proof that you hang with hopeless fan bois. You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Just not a clue. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Apple insider is reporting a taiwanese manufacturer has been hired to do a cdma iPhone to be carried on verizon in q3 2010. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Is there solid word they will get a apple device? With android making inroads, do they need one? VZ is also getting another droid phone, the eris, this phone got better reviews overall than the moto droid. Sprint has three or four android phones out now, one of them has 8 megabytes of built in memory, haven't seen if you can utilize it all for apps or not. AFter seeing the offerings of android, I don't see much missing between the two choices. Apple probably won't do Verizon without GSM. Does Droid do Flash? iPhone doesn't do Flash [without serious hacking], but Symbian does. Can you buy a Droid phone outright without a contract? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
I've installed 64 bit Win7 on my own machine at home and one machine at work. I never do an in-place upgrade, so these technically aren't upgrades. However, my comp had Vista and the work comps have all been XP. I'm going to try it on an old Dell XP laptop soon, just to see if it handles any better. I think you're wrong about businesses. From what I hear, they see Win7 as a sort of Vista SP3. i.e., the OS has now matured enough to use. Also there's the fact that most newer comps can handle 64 bits (read: more memory), so they need to be upgraded anyway. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote: Rather than just bickering about it, tell us a little about these people. I, for one am curious about who is running Win7and why. Like: are they putting it on work machines or personal machines? Is it mostly preinstalls on new machines or upgrades on old machines, and if the latter, was it from XP or Vista? Also, on the upgrades, are they running to se7en or fleeing their old OS? My own expectations are that I just don't see all that many XP users rushing out to upgrade, and I can't imagine businesses being ready for a while yet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:06 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: At this point I wouldn't want to go back to XP, win 7 has been rock solid for me, everything runs and works just great. The Microsoft television ads I have seen for Windows 7 clearly imply that previous versions of Windows have been problematic for users of the Windows OS. Too much clutter and not simple enough, along with system crashes when running more than one app at a time are mentioned in those ads. Obviously, a new version of any OS on any platform that can address such issues would be welcomed by any user. I do not use Windows. My OS has never had clutter problems and has always been simple to use and never suffers a system crash when running multiple apps. I can see how and why Windows 7 will be a big success if such problems can be eliminated or significantly addressed. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Rather than just bickering about it, tell us a little about these people. I, for one am curious about who is running Win7and why. Like: are they putting it on work machines or personal machines? Is it mostly preinstalls on new machines or upgrades on old machines, and if the latter, was it from XP or Vista? Also, on the upgrades, are they running to se7en or fleeing their old OS? The people I know who are using Win7 run the gamut from professional geeks (like me) to business users to my sister, who knows nothing about computers. Some upgraded from Vista, some did clean installs from XP, some are new PCs. Most are not, as Tom declared without any evidence, Windows fan bois; most of them don't see the PCs as anything more than a hammer. They couldn't care less who makes it as long as it can drive whatever nail it is that they have a use for. No one has said anything to me about any problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, mike wrote: Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In several reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest part of the iPhone, it does most other things very well...calling not so good. Lots of people were telling me I was an idiot for signing up with t- Mobile because they had terrible coverage. But so far the only place I've not been able to use my cell phone is underground in the Metro. This month they started wiring the Metro so that is being fixed too. It all depends on how you use the device. I would have been an idiot if I had paid for all kinds of service that I did not need. I'm waiting for the iTablet with great anticipation. Perhaps it will make smart phones obsolete? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:17 AM, mike wrote: Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, I don't believe you. Multi-tasking makes no sense on such a tiny screen. Just try to convince us that you are going to watch a streaming video while simultaneously checking your email on such a tiny screen. Just bs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Tony B wrote: Did I miss something? Its strictly for narcissistic backwoods droids. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:06 PM, mike wrote: Don't know what it's worth, but 7 is being picked up at a rate of over 200% greater than Vista in the same time period. Standard M$ agitprop. M$ planted the same kind of stories about Vista. More recently they did the same for Zune and Bing. Just M$ B$. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Primer on RAID
Hi all, I will be taking delivery of a new Intel i7-920 Win 7 PC shorty and it will come with 12 G of DDRR3 RAM and a 1TB HD to which I intend to add a 2nd 1TB drive that I just bought for a PC that is no longer going to be used. I have never used any RAID or similar configuration and am wondering what are the pros and cons. This is a home machine and in the past when I had multiple disks I always backed up my critical data and media etc from my main drive manually to one of the other physical disks, on the premise that, unless there was a fire and the whole computer melted, the odds of 2 physical drives failing at the same time are infinitesimally small. But with 2 really large drives, and a lot of RAM and a very fast machine coming, I am wondering if I should be using a RAID configuration, and if so, what advantages or disadvantages does that bring. Advice is welcome. Michael * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:26 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The Microsoft television ads I have seen for Windows 7 clearly imply that previous versions of Windows have been problematic for users of the Windows OS. Again the same old same old from M$. The current product is always claimed to be solid and trouble free. Then the new one ships and they start running ads that reveal that the previous version was a piece of crap. I posted something very much like this message back when Vista was released and our WFBs were fawning over it. I don't upgrade because the previous OS was a piece of crap. I upgrade because the new OS gives me new capabilities that will increase my productivity or at least show me a good time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The people I know who are using Win7 run the gamut from professional geeks (like me) to business users to my sister, who knows nothing about computers. Some upgraded from Vista, some did clean installs from XP, some are new PCs. Most are not, as Tom declared without any evidence, Windows fan bois; most of them don't see the PCs as anything more than a hammer. They couldn't care less Sometimes our WFBs get so over hyperventilated that their own posts are the best evidence against them. Tell me again: So you sister who knows nothing about computers and could care less, nevertheless rushed out to be among the first to install Windows 7. You must have put a gun to her head. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better. I have multiple apps open all the time. Maybe you need to work on being able to do more at one time like others are already doing. On Nov 7, 2009 12:41 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:17 AM, mike wrote: Some people need or want different things from their ce... I don't believe you. Multi-tasking makes no sense on such a tiny screen. Just try to convince us that you are going to watch a streaming video while simultaneously checking your email on such a tiny screen. Just bs. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Quality control?
I can buy the same part at the local hardware store, Home Depot or Lowes. Same packaging same number. Yes indeed. He pointed that out Same packaging same number but not the same product in the box. That was your plumber trying to justify charging you a higher price. No markup. I was buying all the materials myself. A few times he put what I bought back in the box saying You don't want to pay me to put that junk in. It won't last. The reason he's been my plumber for so long is that he watches out for his clients. Exactly the same thing that I do for my clients. Items with the same numbers are not necessarily the same. I always read the fine print on the boxes. The item at Home Depot that is made in China may have the same number as the item at Lowe's, or my local hardware store, that's made in Turkey. Products look the same, but may not perform the same. Chinese nails and screws break. Ones made in Turkey fare better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Tony B wrote: Yes, I suppose Google et al, could announce tomorrow that they'll be charging for gmail. But why live life based around what some company *might* do in the future? Especially Google. Google has been especially clever at finding opportunities that nobody else saw and turning them into big revenue streams while keeping everybody happy. They give away search for free and mix paid content into it in a way that is not only not objectionable, but actually welcome. When I want to buy things I go to Google, knowing that the paid content will lead me to sites that are eager to sell. As a seller I am happy to give Google money because they bring customers to me. They have an excellent system for managing my online advertising and for measuring the effectiveness of my advertising. So I think I'm quite safe assuming that Google is not going away and is not planning to pick my pocket. I think Amazon's service is probably a safe bet too. On the other hand I do have serious doubts about many of the other online storage services. For example I would not trust Apple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
By comparison osx ads say the new os is more complex and makes things harder. On Nov 7, 2009 11:41 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:06 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: At this point I wouldn't want to g... The Microsoft television ads I have seen for Windows 7 clearly imply that previous versions of Windows have been problematic for users of the Windows OS. Too much clutter and not simple enough, along with system crashes when running more than one app at a time are mentioned in those ads. Obviously, a new version of any OS on any platform that can address such issues would be welcomed by any user. I do not use Windows. My OS has never had clutter problems and has always been simple to use and never suffers a system crash when running multiple apps. I can see how and why Windows 7 will be a big success if such problems can be eliminated or significantly addressed. Steve * ** List info, subscript... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
It does flash most the time. Why wouldn't they do it without gsm? iPhone is a world phone. CDMA is mostly US and Japan. Apple can sell more GSM phones than CDMA. Verizon still wants the iPhone, as noted in recent news. It will take Apple a year or so to reengineer hardware and software for VZ. Apple also has to wait for ATT contract to expire. ATT wants to keep iPhone and will do what they need to do to make sure it stays only GSM, and doesn't have special features developed for ATT running on other GSM networks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, and I sure don't want to read the review, but is this some sort of new tech? How and why does a cell phone take pictures of itself? Some phones have cameras on the front and back of the phone. You can do video calls if you want. That's an extra feature for most people, but for those who can't hear, it could be a life-saver. It lets those people talk to each other in sign language on a cell phone. Most mobile phone mfgs have at least one phone with this feature. Not sure if that's what you mean by a phone taking pictures of itself. Is that like the Mars explorer robots sending self portraits back to earth? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?
He might have been wanting to take screenshots On Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Did I miss something? I don't own a cell phone so I'm not real interested in that discussion, an... Some phones have cameras on the front and back of the phone. You can do video calls if you want. That's an extra feature for most people, but for those who can't hear, it could be a life-saver. It lets those people talk to each other in sign language on a cell phone. Most mobile phone mfgs have at least one phone with this feature. Not sure if that's what you mean by a phone taking pictures of itself. Is that like the Mars explorer robots sending self portraits back to earth? * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
They can sell more phones doing both. On Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: It does flash most the time. Why wouldn't they do it without gsm? iPhone is a world phone. CDMA is mostly US and Japan. Apple can sell more GSM phones than CDMA. Verizon still wants the iPhone, as noted in recent news. It will take Apple a year or so to reengineer hardware and software for VZ. Apple also has to wait for ATT contract to expire. ATT wants to keep iPhone and will do what they need to do to make sure it stays only GSM, and doesn't have special features developed for ATT running on other GSM networks. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
At 03:06 PM 11/7/2009, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Date:Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:05:15 -0500 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: online storage --HIJACKED!! For example I would not trust Apple. Repeat after me: For example I would not trust Apple. For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple. I can't believe what I am reading that. What an epiphany or is it a revelation? Now I can die in peace knowing that TJP actually said this, Or is this the Identity thief that jumped in here and wrote that? Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:06 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: By comparison osx ads say the new os is more complex and makes things harder. Really? I have not seen those ads. I'll have to take a look on Youtube. I'm sure they are there. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
My point of course being that everything that sells a newer version says the same thing. Noting this about windows is therefore moot. Apple does the same thing. They marketed snow cat among other ways by saying it didn't take up gigs of diskspace like leopard did. It didn't suck as much. They also marketed it as faster then previous versions, which MS does with 7...but of course you only go after MS. It would be a more genuine complaint if you didn't ignore it from one company and point at it with another as if it's a bad thing. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:06 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: By comparison osx ads say the new os is more complex and makes things harder. Really? I have not seen those ads. I'll have to take a look on Youtube. I'm sure they are there. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
I'm sure his account was hijacked. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote: At 03:06 PM 11/7/2009, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Date:Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:05:15 -0500 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: online storage --HIJACKED!! For example I would not trust Apple. Repeat after me: For example I would not trust Apple. For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple. I can't believe what I am reading that. What an epiphany or is it a revelation? Now I can die in peace knowing that TJP actually said this, Or is this the Identity thief that jumped in here and wrote that? Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Sometimes our WFBs get so over hyperventilated that their own posts are the best evidence against them. Tell me again: So you sister who knows nothing about computers and could care less, nevertheless rushed out to be among the first to install Windows 7. You must have put a gun to her head. The other possibility is that she just got a new PC. Which one do you think it might be? And which one of us is hyperventilating? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
What kind of multitasking is it that you want to do on a small handheld that is so crucial? I don't have have an iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch, and I can surf the web or compose an email, etc. while listening to music, and you can do more than one thing at a time of this sort with the iPhone, too. On those things where you can't do two things at a time, like using turn directions and answer a call, you pause the app long enough to answer the call, then you resume the app at the point where you left off, running the app and taking the call at the same time. Think also of some of the multitasking limitations specific to the Droid (though not to the android platform in particular). Because of Verizon's CDMA network limitations, the Droid won't be able to do voice and data apps at the same time, and I am not really clear on whether or not it can have more than one data stream at the same time (anyone know?). So what kind of multitasking is it that the Droid can do that the iPhone's limited multitasking can't do that you think might be really compelling? Date:Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:17:33 -0700 From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moto droid by Andy ihnatko Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, this makes up for any issues their might be. Android isn't just good enough, its a solid choice. The iPhone lacks features and so does the android platform, I just find android to be lacking less for what I do. On Nov 6, 2009 8:41 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:52 AM, mike wrote: Good review/comparison of the new moto droid with the u... It=92s a long list and the basic point is that the Android OS shows severe signs of a product team whose motto is =93It works; let=92s ship it and go home.=94 Okay? Let=92s put that on record. As a user, I think the iPhone is vastly superior. End of story * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). They will offer you that if you are a long time customer and you ask to cancel and / or you just plain ask for it. Made me postpone switching to iPhone that would have cost me $130 / for unlimited mins. Which is why T-Mobile is doing it. And when T-mobile finally gets a good smartphone / iPhone, maybe I can upgrade and keep the inexpensive unlimited minutes too... db tjpa wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, mike wrote: Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In several reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest part of the iPhone, it does most other things very well...calling not so good. Lots of people were telling me I was an idiot for signing up with t-Mobile because they had terrible coverage. But so far the only place I've not been able to use my cell phone is underground in the Metro. This month they started wiring the Metro so that is being fixed too. It all depends on how you use the device. I would have been an idiot if I had paid for all kinds of service that I did not need. I'm waiting for the iTablet with great anticipation. Perhaps it will make smart phones obsolete? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Make no mistake, none of it is crucial. But If I can get a phone that lets me do it, why would I not get that phone? I'm not one of those users as Tom is who assumes whatever *I* do is all that anyone ever has to do and anything else is shite. I know different people have different needs, different ways of getting things done, different goals and different hobbies. I don't assume when someone makes a choice different from mine, that they are stupid and in need of medication, I assume they know what is best for them and I hope they've done their homework before deciding. In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. If I'm on IRC on the iphone, I can't switch back and forth to IM without shutting down the other app...I can't answer an email without shutting down other apps. Disconnecting from IM and IRC every time I want to read an email would be tiresome, I've done it. I like my little cell phone world I can create on a phone I can multitask on, do I *need* it? Of course not. But combine that advantage on a network that is MUCH cheaper and I'm very satisfied with my choice knowing I've lost some things and gained some things. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:02 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: What kind of multitasking is it that you want to do on a small handheld that is so crucial? I don't have have an iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch, and I can surf the web or compose an email, etc. while listening to music, and you can do more than one thing at a time of this sort with the iPhone, too. On those things where you can't do two things at a time, like using turn directions and answer a call, you pause the app long enough to answer the call, then you resume the app at the point where you left off, running the app and taking the call at the same time. Think also of some of the multitasking limitations specific to the Droid (though not to the android platform in particular). Because of Verizon's CDMA network limitations, the Droid won't be able to do voice and data apps at the same time, and I am not really clear on whether or not it can have more than one data stream at the same time (anyone know?). So what kind of multitasking is it that the Droid can do that the iPhone's limited multitasking can't do that you think might be really compelling? Date:Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:17:33 -0700 From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moto droid by Andy ihnatko Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, this makes up for any issues their might be. Android isn't just good enough, its a solid choice. The iPhone lacks features and so does the android platform, I just find android to be lacking less for what I do. On Nov 6, 2009 8:41 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:52 AM, mike wrote: Good review/comparison of the new moto droid with the u... It=92s a long list and the basic point is that the Android OS shows severe signs of a product team whose motto is =93It works; let=92s ship it and go home.=94 Okay? Let=92s put that on record. As a user, I think the iPhone is vastly superior. End of story * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Actually, according to what I read, it is a hybrid UMTS/CDMA iPhone made possible by a new hybrid chip from Qualcomm, so Apple can continue to make a single global iPhone that will work with all major carriers. The evidence for the phone is pretty skimpy, I haven't seen any evidence at all that Apple is going to get in a licensing deal with Verizon, and I can't see how they are going to handle the mixed message they would get from having the iPhone capable of different things on different networks in the US market. Possibly, Apple would handle this by offering the new iPhone by itself without a license to any carrier and let the purchaser deal with their carrier's limitations, or maybe this is all just an insidious rumor that is intended to blunt Droid sales by encouraging people to wait for an iPhone. If the latter theory is correct, the steep price Verizon is now charging for early termination of smartphone contracts plays right into this strategy. The idea that Apple might offer the iPhone without a carrier contract appeals to me. It seems like there is already a pretty big grey market for iPhones freed from their original carrier in one way or the other, and I could see that Apple might like to profit off of that. It's another piece of low-hanging fruit that Apple can pick without posing a legitimate grievance to the carriers (assuming that Apple won't be breaking any contractual exclusivity agreements). It's all just speculation though. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer) Apple insider is reporting a taiwanese manufacturer has been hired to do a cdma iPhone to be carried on verizon in q3 2010. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Is there solid word they will get a apple device? With android making inroads, do they need one? VZ is also getting another droid phone, the eris, this phone got better reviews overall than the moto droid. Sprint has three or four android phones out now, one of them has 8 megabytes of built in memory, haven't seen if you can utilize it all for apps or not. AFter seeing the offerings of android, I don't see much missing between the two choices. Apple probably won't do Verizon without GSM. Does Droid do Flash? iPhone doesn't do Flash [without serious hacking], but Symbian does. Can you buy a Droid phone outright without a contract? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Let's take the report at face value and do the math. Microsoft is also charging less than half for Win7 than they were for Vista, so they are grossing at about the same rate. If you consider that they plainly didn't realize the revenue they expected on Vista and they had to pay out some heavy development costs to get Win7 out quickly, then very likely they are coming out behind so far. Add to their troubles the fact that the PC market stinks generally, that MS makes very little if any on netbook installations of XP, and that the death of linux on netbooks has been somewhat exaggerated, keeping MS from ever making much money off of them. These aren't mortal blows to MS by any means, and they would have to fall pretty far from here before we could officially call them beleaguered but it is not all sunshine and blue skies for them, either. From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:06 PM, mike wrote: Don't know what it's worth, but 7 is being picked up at a rate of over 200% greater than Vista in the same time period. Standard M$ agitprop. M$ planted the same kind of stories about Vista. More recently they did the same for Zune and Bing. Just M$ B$. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
Clearly, you have not been reading Tom's posts very carefully. Rich Schinnell wrote: At 03:06 PM 11/7/2009, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Date:Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:05:15 -0500 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: online storage --HIJACKED!! For example I would not trust Apple. Repeat after me: For example I would not trust Apple. For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would not trust Apple.For example I would * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The other possibility is that she just got a new PC. Which one do you think it might be? And which one of us is hyperventilating? Oh, an unwilling convert nevertheless. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote: For example I would not trust Apple. I can't believe what I am reading that. What an epiphany or is it a revelation? No it is the same consistent, honest observation of the industry that you get from me every day. You fan bois should not assume that everyone acts like you do. I'm not blindly rooting for a local team or political party. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:04 PM, mike wrote: Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better No. You just said something silly and I called you on it. Your failure to respond with anything factual is duly noted Q.E.D. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:02 PM, David K Watson wrote: What kind of multitasking is it that you want to do on a small handheld that is so crucial? I don't have have an iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch, and I can surf the web or compose an email, etc. while listening to music, and you can do more than one thing at a time of this sort with the iPhone, too. I'm not as advanced as you. I'm still using my Palm Tungsten. I use it heavily for all my daily scheduling and storing all the key information on my clients, work notes, and just about anything else that I need to recall. It only runs a single task, but it quickly switches from task to task. With no annoying delay it really does not matter if it is multitasking or not. Multitasking is just geek speak. How the device functions is what matters. Can we have some examples to prove me wrong? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Chris Dunford wrote: Windows fan bois; most of them don't see the PCs as anything more than a hammer. They couldn't care less who makes it as long as it can drive whatever nail it is that they have a use for. No one has said anything to me about any problems. Who was it that said MS doesn't make hardware. Just put Windows on a PC and it becomes nothing more than a hammer. Sorry, I love the image! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:39 PM, mike wrote: In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. If I'm on IRC on the iphone, I can't switch back and forth to IM without shutting down the other app...I can't answer an email without shutting down other apps. Disconnecting from IM and IRC every time I want to read an email would be tiresome, On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:39 PM, mike wrote: Make no mistake, none of it is crucial. But If I can get a phone that lets me do it, why would I not get that phone? I'm not one of those users as Tom is who assumes whatever *I* do is all that anyone ever has to do and anything else is shite. Well this explains a lot. You have so much stuff running at the same time that you can't focus. You impute things into my posts that are not there. You are not reading carefully. I guess this is the email equivalent of distracted driving. Or maybe aggressive distracted driving. One thing I think I missed. On which cell phone are you answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done? I did not know that there was anything like this available. Sorry if you told us this before and I missed it. What cell phone should I be looking at? Still based on your past performance I don't think this is a good idea. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Like anyone believes that. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:04 PM, mike wrote: It would be a more genuine complaint if you didn't ignore it from one company and point at it with another as if it's a bad thing. I don't look at the company behind it. I just look to see if it is true. M$ B$ is just that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). That's good. I'm paying $100 for 1150 minutes. Will the 1000 minutes for $45 last me the whole year and rollover (like mine do) or do they expire more quickly? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Primer on RAID
On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Michael Wosnick wrote: I will be taking delivery of a new Intel i7-920 Win 7 PC shorty and it will come with 12 G of DDRR3 RAM and a 1TB HD to which I intend to add a 2nd 1TB drive that I just bought for a PC that is no longer going to be used. I have never used any RAID or similar configuration and am wondering what are the pros and cons. Need to know your motivation. Are you running an NLE on this gear or just hacking hardware for entertainment or what? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Primer on RAID
RAID is important on high-access servers like retail websites or application servers. I cannot conceive of a reason you would want RAID otherwise. But then, my conceiver has been in the shop for a while... Ellen H. - Original Message - From: Michael Wosnick mwosn...@rogers.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Primer on RAID Hi all, I will be taking delivery of a new Intel i7-920 Win 7 PC shorty and it will come with 12 G of DDRR3 RAM and a 1TB HD to which I intend to add a 2nd 1TB drive that I just bought for a PC that is no longer going to be used. I have never used any RAID or similar configuration and am wondering what are the pros and cons. This is a home machine and in the past when I had multiple disks I always backed up my critical data and media etc from my main drive manually to one of the other physical disks, on the premise that, unless there was a fire and the whole computer melted, the odds of 2 physical drives failing at the same time are infinitesimally small. But with 2 really large drives, and a lot of RAM and a very fast machine coming, I am wondering if I should be using a RAID configuration, and if so, what advantages or disadvantages does that bring. Advice is welcome. Michael * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Primer on RAID
Fair point. It is a bit of an all-purpose, really. Multiple home users, main hub of a home network, and for me, a lot of Office apps, multimedia and movies, and multitasking. From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Michael Wosnick wrote: I will be taking delivery of a new Intel i7-920 Win 7 PC shorty and it will come with 12 G of DDRR3 RAM and a 1TB HD to which I intend to add a 2nd 1TB drive that I just bought for a PC that is no longer going to be used. I have never used any RAID or similar configuration and am wondering what are the pros and cons. Need to know your motivation. Are you running an NLE on this gear or just hacking hardware for entertainment or what? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Pogue says... Still, the Droid’s multitasking pays off in two situations: when you want to listen to Internet radio while you work in other apps, and when you’re switching between programs a lot. Since they’re already open, you don’t have to wait for them to start up again with each switch. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/technology/personaltech/05pogue.html The Motorola Droid, Latest Entry in the ‘App Phone’ Races I ask Pogue: 1) Is it really a good idea to listen to Internet radio on a cell phone? That's quite an expensive radio. 2) How many apps can I expect to have running at once? Even though I have multi-GB of RAM in my desktop computer I still see a noticeable delay what I have too much open at once and the computer has to page in memory for an application before I can use it. So even on my multi- tasking desktop that are definite limits to multi-tasking. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
The other possibility is that she just got a new PC. Which one do you think it might be? And which one of us is hyperventilating? Oh, an unwilling convert nevertheless. Dream on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). They will offer you that if you are a long time customer and you ask to cancel and / or you just plain ask for it. Made me postpone switching to iPhone that would have cost me $130 / for unlimited mins. Which is why T-Mobile is doing it. And when T-mobile finally gets a good smartphone / iPhone, maybe I can upgrade and keep the inexpensive unlimited minutes too... I believe that iPhones can take a Tmobile SIM chip and work just fine. This deal is for all those early iPhone adopters who are coming off the ATT contracts soon. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). That's good. I'm paying $100 for 1150 minutes. Will the 1000 minutes for $45 last me the whole year and rollover (like mine do) or do they expire more quickly? But you use a burner. If you wanted an iPhone then you would need to have a plan more like this. FWIW a burner on a good cell network and an iTouch is probably a better deal than the iPhone on ATT. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: I decided to take a peek at Mr. Ihnatko's blog. From the home page, it's apparent that his career depends on the continued success of the iPhone. That discredits him sufficiently in my mind. What he really liked the Droid. That was nearly a glowing review. He just said he wasn't going to switch. There is an iPhone ap lock in cost. The more Aps you own the less likely you are to move on, Furthermore, he can't write in proper English: Ah: but my iPhone spends a lot of time in it’s car cradle. It’s my music player and my GPS. Andy reads like he speaks. It's a style. Finally, he is clearly stupid as a rock, he completely misunderstands the Droid's ability to take photos of itself. Does anyone really need a narsicistic phone? -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
I responded in kind to your crap. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:15 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:04 PM, mike wrote: Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better No. You just said something silly and I called you on it. Your failure to respond with anything factual is duly noted Q.E.D. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move, never admit you are wrong. You tell me I'm lying and I'm the guy who needs to explain? You have no clue what you are talking about clearly, you've run android and the moto droid over the coals and you have not one clue what it can or can't do. Your opinions are worthless because they aren't based on fact, just some warped view you hold regardless of truth. I truly feel sorry for any clients you have asking for advice from you. It's like having a rude obnoxious Cliff Claven for a consultant. Does it matter what phone I'm running? You'll just say you don't believe me again and of course have zero to back it up. Try something new, go out and learn something about the subject, get back to us when you've educated yourself. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:39 PM, mike wrote: In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. If I'm on IRC on the iphone, I can't switch back and forth to IM without shutting down the other app...I can't answer an email without shutting down other apps. Disconnecting from IM and IRC every time I want to read an email would be tiresome, On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:39 PM, mike wrote: Make no mistake, none of it is crucial. But If I can get a phone that lets me do it, why would I not get that phone? I'm not one of those users as Tom is who assumes whatever *I* do is all that anyone ever has to do and anything else is shite. Well this explains a lot. You have so much stuff running at the same time that you can't focus. You impute things into my posts that are not there. You are not reading carefully. I guess this is the email equivalent of distracted driving. Or maybe aggressive distracted driving. One thing I think I missed. On which cell phone are you answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done? I did not know that there was anything like this available. Sorry if you told us this before and I missed it. What cell phone should I be looking at? Still based on your past performance I don't think this is a good idea. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
It can take the SIM but I don't think you get every bell and whistle...perhaps not even 3g? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). They will offer you that if you are a long time customer and you ask to cancel and / or you just plain ask for it. Made me postpone switching to iPhone that would have cost me $130 / for unlimited mins. Which is why T-Mobile is doing it. And when T-mobile finally gets a good smartphone / iPhone, maybe I can upgrade and keep the inexpensive unlimited minutes too... I believe that iPhones can take a Tmobile SIM chip and work just fine. This deal is for all those early iPhone adopters who are coming off the ATT contracts soon. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
I believe that after a given period of time they are required to give you an unlock code to allow you open your phone up for any service provider that fits. (In this case GSM) you can then subscribe to a service and put in the SIM card. I think that you should be able to use any hardware present service within the phone without a problem. I am not a cell phone expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Stewart At 07:38 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: It can take the SIM but I don't think you get every bell and whistle...perhaps not even 3g? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins /mo ... use them or lose them. If you are not already a T-Mobile customer, I am not sure that you can get the new unlimited mins for $49 Loyalty plan ... but it wouldn't hurt to ask. It's by far the best minutes deal out there I think. If T-Mobile is willing to do that to keep customers in the face of the ATT iPhone surge, why wouldn't they give that to a new customer who would switch? db tjpa wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). That's good. I'm paying $100 for 1150 minutes. Will the 1000 minutes for $45 last me the whole year and rollover (like mine do) or do they expire more quickly? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran out anyway. And I would have to buy a T-Mobile data plan too. That would be $39. $49 + $39 = $90 which is a lot better than ATT's $130 ... but the ATT contract is the killer for now. I will have to wait until Apple sells the iPhone to the other carriers. Anyone know when that will be? db John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). They will offer you that if you are a long time customer and you ask to cancel and / or you just plain ask for it. Made me postpone switching to iPhone that would have cost me $130 / for unlimited mins. Which is why T-Mobile is doing it. And when T-mobile finally gets a good smartphone / iPhone, maybe I can upgrade and keep the inexpensive unlimited minutes too... I believe that iPhones can take a Tmobile SIM chip and work just fine. This deal is for all those early iPhone adopters who are coming off the ATT contracts soon. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. I just read an article about a an Iphone/Worldphone possibly 3rd qtr 2010. Stewart At 07:59 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran out anyway. And I would have to buy a T-Mobile data plan too. That would be $39. $49 + $39 = $90 which is a lot better than ATT's $130 ... but the ATT contract is the killer for now. I will have to wait until Apple sells the iPhone to the other carriers. Anyone know when that will be? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Primer on RAID
Then no, under no circumstances should you consider a RAID. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Michael Wosnick mwosn...@rogers.com wrote: Fair point. It is a bit of an all-purpose, really. Multiple home users, main hub of a home network, and for me, a lot of Office apps, multimedia and movies, and multitasking. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. I just read an article about a an Iphone/Worldphone possibly 3rd qtr 2010. Stewart At 07:59 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran out anyway. And I would have to buy a T-Mobile data plan too. That would be $39. $49 + $39 = $90 which is a lot better than ATT's $130 ... but the ATT contract is the killer for now. I will have to wait until Apple sells the iPhone to the other carriers. Anyone know when that will be? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
What's the difference between unlocking and jailbreak? And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped? db mike wrote: There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Zire 31 project
I have a couple of old Palm Zire 31 PDAs. I am planing on taking them apart and seeing if I can put one working PDA together from the peices. Does anyone know where I might be able to get some schematics of the Zire 31 to use as a guide for this project? Thanks Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Unlocking means you can then stick a sim in the phone from another carrier and it will take it. I had an ATT tilt that they gave me the unlock code for, put my tmobile sim in and everything worked. Jailbreaking allows you to run unofficial code on the iphone and using third party app installers like cydia you can install apps that aren't approved by the app store. Jailbreaking lets you do a little more customization to the home screen than Apple allows like putting more icons on the home screen, customizing the background etc. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: What's the difference between unlocking and jailbreak? And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped? db mike wrote: There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
That is the kind of answer I've been looking for, that I haven't seen at all anywhere else. Whatever works for you, fine. You make a good case for your phone. (Was all that on your phone, or was it at your computer and you are giving an example of what you'd like your phone to do?) However, do you know that the Droid can do all that now or at least will be able to do that if the right apps are made for it? If so, then there is definitely a place for it at the smartphone table. On a side note, what are you, a hyperactive teenager? You sound like one seriously distracted dude, dude, if that is representative of more than a tiny fraction of your day. Live your life however you want, but I hope that you know that there's lots of cognitive science which says that kind of multitasking seriously impairs your critical thinking, memory and mood. Science also says that no one does multitasking anywhere nearly as well as they think that they do. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moto droid by Andy ihnatko In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. If I'm on IRC on the iphone, I can't switch back and forth to IM without shutting down the other app...I can't answer an email without shutting down other apps. Disconnecting from IM and IRC every time I want to read an email would be tiresome, I've done it. I like my little cell phone world I can create on a phone I can multitask on, do I *need* it? Of course not. But combine that advantage on a network that is MUCH cheaper and I'm very satisfied with my choice knowing I've lost some things and gained some things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Shrink wrap does not mean much. You can buy the packaging material and rewrap an item. If it has been jailbreaked etc. it has been opened. Stewart At 09:25 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped? db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
Both the unlocking and jailbreaking are done with software? What's a tilt? db mike wrote: Unlocking means you can then stick a sim in the phone from another carrier and it will take it. I had an ATT tilt that they gave me the unlock code for, put my tmobile sim in and everything worked. Jailbreaking allows you to run unofficial code on the iphone and using third party app installers like cydia you can install apps that aren't approved by the app store. Jailbreaking lets you do a little more customization to the home screen than Apple allows like putting more icons on the home screen, customizing the background etc. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: What's the difference between unlocking and jailbreak? And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped? db mike wrote: There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Zire 31 project
Stephen Brownfield wrote: I have a couple of old Palm Zire 31 PDAs. I am planing on taking them apart and seeing if I can put one working PDA together from the peices. Does anyone know where I might be able to get some schematics of the Zire 31 to use as a guide for this project? Thanks Steve I don't think you would be able to do that. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
I am not going to argue any general claims, but in this case go back and read Tom's posts when MobileMe was having all its service problems the first times Apple tried to put in Exchange support. Tom was at least as unhappy with Apple over that as he was over MS's recent problems with Sidekick phone data. Consider also that Google has had several notable service failures a couple of times since then, particularly with email and search, but I don't recall Tom being nearly so critical about that. So it is possible to argue that in this case, Tom is harder on Apple than he is on Google. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear Like anyone believes that. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:04 PM, mike wrote: It would be a more genuine complaint if you didn't ignore it from one company and point at it with another as if it's a bad thing. I don't look at the company behind it. I just look to see if it is true. M$ B$ is just that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
You are correct, he has been semi critical of apple at times, but not with the sheer and utter hatred he has with MS. He doesn't take cheap shots at Apple, make up claims, read WFB blogs that tell wild stories about apple and post them here as if they are serious. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:17 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: I am not going to argue any general claims, but in this case go back and read Tom's posts when MobileMe was having all its service problems the first times Apple tried to put in Exchange support. Tom was at least as unhappy with Apple over that as he was over MS's recent problems with Sidekick phone data. Consider also that Google has had several notable service failures a couple of times since then, particularly with email and search, but I don't recall Tom being nearly so critical about that. So it is possible to argue that in this case, Tom is harder on Apple than he is on Google. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear Like anyone believes that. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:04 PM, mike wrote: It would be a more genuine complaint if you didn't ignore it from one company and point at it with another as if it's a bad thing. I don't look at the company behind it. I just look to see if it is true. M$ B$ is just that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
That was all on my phone, an HTC Hero. The moto droid can do the same, all the android phones are similiar hardware except for the moto droid having a better screen and the samsung moment having 8 gigs of built in memory. There are something on the order of 100,000 apps for iphone, I think at last count 20,000 were either tip calculators or flashlight apps. Tongue in cheek of course...there are thousands of android apps, and I can't say I've gone looking for an app and not found something suitable. So far so good. I broke my foot in four places a few weeks ago, so I've gotten to know my couch far better then it or I ever hoped. That said I have spent a lot of time on my semi new phone putting it to the test. As far as if I multitask well...you did see i was on IRC right? Not exactly a brain taxer...same with twitter. Both are more time wasters, leftovers from being on the net so long. It's a nice distraction while I keep my foot up, and even nicer I don't need to sign out of twitter, IM or IRC and just play around on whatever I want keeping them all open while also looking at an occasional email or engadget page. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:33 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: That is the kind of answer I've been looking for, that I haven't seen at all anywhere else. Whatever works for you, fine. You make a good case for your phone. (Was all that on your phone, or was it at your computer and you are giving an example of what you'd like your phone to do?) However, do you know that the Droid can do all that now or at least will be able to do that if the right apps are made for it? If so, then there is definitely a place for it at the smartphone table. On a side note, what are you, a hyperactive teenager? You sound like one seriously distracted dude, dude, if that is representative of more than a tiny fraction of your day. Live your life however you want, but I hope that you know that there's lots of cognitive science which says that kind of multitasking seriously impairs your critical thinking, memory and mood. Science also says that no one does multitasking anywhere nearly as well as they think that they do. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moto droid by Andy ihnatko In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. If I'm on IRC on the iphone, I can't switch back and forth to IM without shutting down the other app...I can't answer an email without shutting down other apps. Disconnecting from IM and IRC every time I want to read an email would be tiresome, I've done it. I like my little cell phone world I can create on a phone I can multitask on, do I *need* it? Of course not. But combine that advantage on a network that is MUCH cheaper and I'm very satisfied with my choice knowing I've lost some things and gained some things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Don't be so hard on her, Tom. She has a brother to do all her computer service for her, for free. At least that's the way it seems to work in my family. From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The other possibility is that she just got a new PC. Which one do you think it might be? And which one of us is hyperventilating? Oh, an unwilling convert nevertheless. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
