[CTRL] Death Education at Columbine ?!?!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 1:27 AM Subject: Death Education ?!?! Wow! Life really can be stranger than fiction: http://drudgereport.com/matt.htm X DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, APRIL 24, 1999 23:52:09 UTC X DEATH EDUCATION WAS TAUGHT AT COLUMBINE HIGH! Death education classes have been taught at Columbine High School, it has been learned. The school that became the site of one of the nation's worst massacres this week, was in the headlines in the early 90's for offering death education classes to confused students! One student even planned to kill herself after attending one of the classes, ABC NEWS reported in a 20/20 profile back in 1991. "We talked about what we wanted to look like in our casket," student Tara Becker told ABC in an interview. "Tara Becker believes she was seduced into a suicide attempt by her Death Ed class." Tara was a junior at Columbine High in Littleton, Colorado, reported Tom Jarriel. A transcript of the stunning ABC NEWS broadcast was obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT. Anchor Hugh Downs introduced the segment: "Your child could be in a class that only a few years ago might have been unthinkable- death education. These classes are supposed to prepare young people for coping with death and while most schools make it part of a health class, some actually make it an entire course." Becker told the news magazine: "I had thought about [suicide] as a possible option for a lot of years, but I never would have gone through with it, never, because I wasn't brave enough. The things that we learned in the class taught us how to be brave enough to face death." Jarriel summarized: "Graphically introducing death to impressionable young minds is at the core of the controversy over death education in our public schools. Will students walk away from here with clearer understanding of death or with nightmarish memories that might haunt them for life and perhaps, inadvertently, suggest death as an answer to adolescent problems?" X X X X X === http://drudgereport.com/matt.htm Visit Ian Williams Goddard -- http://Ian.Goddard.net (+) Something can come from nothing, if, and only if, (-) (-) that something is equal to nothing ((-)+(+) = 0). (+) "[I]n any closed universe the negative gravitational energy cancels the energy of matter exactly. The total energy, or equivalently the total mass, is precisely equal to zero." - + - + Dr. Alan Guth (The Inflationary Universe) + - + -- Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE
Re: [CTRL] Tough Questions for Heterosexuals (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, 1lls0081 wrote: Sex as an activity does not involve higher thinking skills. To base a relationship on sex, to base life on sex, removes the innocense of life. Look around you, would life keep going if animals and plants were to consider homosexualism a viable alternative? I believe it is...homosexuality DOES occur in other species, and I view it as Nature's birth-control... Your question implies that you feel homosexuality is a choice, and further implies that you are heterosexual...so tell us, just when did you CHOOSE to be straight? I know _I_ never made a choice to be heterosexual, it was just something I felt I always WAS... Every gay I've ever known has said the same thing about THEIR sexual orientation, that it was just something they felt they always were... I like to eat and how long would we have animals and plants if this were true? Again, I believe homosexuality is Nature's own way to control overpopulation... And if sex was just for procreation, homo sapiens wouldn't be able to boff each other at the drop of a hat, rather females would have breeding seasons just like other mammals, which would be the only time heterosexual sex took place...so it seems heterosexual homo sapiens have already 'gone against Nature' by having sexual activities outside of a breeding cycle... So it seems that it does not matter if a male gets paid or if he pays. (Gigalo or "husband") You display misogyny in that statement...you sincerely believe that husbands 'pay' for sex? Then you are saying that all wives are intrinsically prostitutes... Talk about the need for education, YOU need to be educated about what a real relationship between husband and wife should be...with a major attitude adjustment where women are concerned (and if you are a woman yourself, what does this say about your image of YOURSELF?)... what is he. If I had a husband that believed it was ok to just spread it around than -- he would not be my husband for long. What commentment does that show? None. But what does THAT have to do with the issue of homosexuality? Many gays are in as committed relationships as any hetero couple, and there are heteros who all their lives 'spread it around' as you so grossly put it (and BTW, WOMEN 'spread it around' as much as men)... If the base line is education. Does just studing history / religion one day a week for social purposes show a respect for education? I'd suggest you try spelling and grammar first, before you tackle history and philosophy... :-7 So the question behind door number one is... What is the difference between a male that is hetrosexual and a male that is homosexual? the ability to have children, without cloning, within a viable relationship that shows respect for the way that (higher) plants and animals replicate. I know very few, if any, heterosexuals who give a damn, let alone respect, 'the way that higher plants and animals replicate'first off, we're not plants, many of which replicate via asexual reproduction...and again, if animals' sexuality was RELEVANT, then an honest scholar would note both the homosexual cases in other species, and the fact that homo sapiens are the only mammals who violate 'the law of Nature' by having sexual relations outside of a breeding cycle... You also ignore the many heterosexual homo sapiens who choose not to breed...many couples choose not to have children So now we get into the reason for some people using homosexuals as a spring board for thier ideas. To use homosexuals in this way you would have to show case male homosexuals normally. Why? In the wild female animals will not have sex until they are in season, yet male animals attempt to show supiriority at a young age. You make absolutely NO sense (not that you have before this point, either)... A good many species are matriarchal, and it's the FEMALES who show superiority at a young age (don't you have a working spell-checker?) ...indeed, both male AND females when young partake in play which demonstrates who will be 'alpha' and who will be 'beta' when they reach adulthood... I know this is not complete and I will work on it. Start out with a good version of Webster's How would this corralate with taking down the consitution. Only in your own mind How is a homosexual couple with a child and a hetrosexual couple with a child different? If the husband spreads it around and lets the wife and school district do the education. What about wives who 'spread it around'...? What about the vast majority of couples who are sexually faithful, but IGNORE their kids? What does a husband who 'spreads it around' have to do with homosexuals, most of whom are in a committed relationship with another person (albeit of the same sex)? June === "To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Food Supply Update: April 24, 1999
-Caveat Lector- How many farmers kept their land during the depression? Which meat packer will by your animals? why would i want to sell them to meat-packers? Which grain towers will be open to buy your grain? i'd prefer to use my grain myself, and sell the surplus Which bank will be ready to foreclose - because they already know what is (was) planed? what's with the bank thing? do you think i care about the artificial economy? We were on the "land" standard at one time then We were on the gold standard then we go back to the land standard, and guess who planned (plans) to own all the land? then could we be ''quietly'' switching to the bio standard? this would mean that all the plans since starting the KKK are out the window. If the Intergalactic standard were based on how much bio - diversity your world has what the figgins are you talking about??? please anybody, tell me if that makes any sense at all Who would be the laughing stock of the intergalactic community IF we go to space. quite so they have control, they have the monopolies and can prove it will it do them a-n-y good? eh? The Pied Piper DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Except for the US UK, NATO Ambivalent
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- At age 50, NATO is welcoming its three newest members, Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia -- all formerly part of that half of Europe granted RUSSIA after WWII, all now joining the capitalist club at the price of rejecting any further ties with Russia, all being given an object lesson in what the EU will do to "mavericks" like Serbia ... A decade after the fall of Communism, NATO is systematically undoing Europe's territorial losses after WWII by little by little shoving Russia OFF the continent -- leaving Russia nowhere to go except the Middle East, and further, former partner China ... (Russia is rapidly building new bridges with the anti-American, anti-Israel Arabs. The US, under Bill Clinton, is hurriedly "giving away the store" to Red China, foolishly believing that money can buy anything, gambling that China will STAY "bought" ... ) The REAL enemy in this war, in the eyes of those old-timers who write the checks and pick up the tab for the EU and NATO, is not Serbia, it's RUSSIA -- Russia as it once was and COULD be again -- a COUNTER-empire of the East, and an obstacle to the New WORLD Order, i.e., ONE cartel's monopoly of ALL the world's resources ... Funny how, with no enemy strong enough to withstand us, the roles are reversed, and now we reveal ourselves monstrously, as the Threat of World CAPITALISM ... Hi Goat, Nice to have you back. I want to make one point about your excellent observation above. That is that the roles are not reversed. Things were always like this. Capitalist propaganda was always successful in pointing out the real deficiencies of international communism and by doing so always kept our focus diverted away from the much greater threat to freedom and humanity. Corporate Capitalism has always been more destructive and dangerous than the commies. Now that there is no longer a bogeyman to distract us, we can see what we refused to see all along. Most of the world fears and hates America. America under the firm rule of the Rich is a brutal bully willing kill anyone and everyone including its own citizens, who dares to criticize or change the system which makes slaves of the non rich and non powerful. I have no love for Russia or the Russians, but no nation deserves what our moneyed elites did to them. They are completely justified in their hatred of America, and if history is any guide they will get their shit together and have enough hatred to carry them through the next century as the enemy of the West. This does not bode well for our next generation considering the lessons our elites are teaching the nations of the world. The great bully only picks on countries that are small and weak. The lesson is... get nukes or chemical and biological weapons or else. All is not hopeless though. NATO may not succeed in Europe. It may fall apart with the upcoming ground war. Once the body bag counts start becoming public knowledge, our imperialist elites won't be able to keep it together. If NATO falls apart in the middle of the nascent EU, that will be the beginning of the end of the military industrial aspects of the New World Order. With the apparent failure of globalized economics and the impending failure of a globalized military, the philosophy of the internationalist capitalists will show itself to be what it has always been. The depraved desires of greedy, insane elitists to rule the world. STOP THE NEW WORLD ORDER. GET NATO OUT OF YUGO. GET THE U.S. OUT OF NATO. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Seattle: WTO-free zone]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Seattle: WTO-free zone Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:08:31 -0400 From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's WSJ reports that Seattle is "bracing for protesters" at the World Trade Organization meeting this November. It says Seattle's city council has voted "to make the city a global-investment-treaty-free zone." Seattle is home to Boeing and Microsoft, two companies with massive global sales that thrive on the tightened intellectual property restrictions and pried-open trade regimes embodied in WTO/MAI-style treaties. Can any northwesterners on the list enlighten me on how the locals reconcile this? Doug DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little tired of the "blame the parents" bit. My own kids were not brought up with any notions of racial bias and indeed never had any until they had a very bad experience in junior highschool, in a school where things were somewhat chaotic and suddenly they were menaced and threatened by kids of other ethnic backgrounds. Because of that experience and in spite of being brought up with friends from many ethnic backgrounds, I know they have--as adults--biases which sometimes surprise and shock me. But they presumably never teased a dwarf, hanging him in a tree...so obviously SOMETHING of what you taught and stood for got thru... Many parents in the past decades have had the experience of discovering that children who were absolute angels until they were 10-11 were impossible to control in their teen years. I don't buy it...monsters just don't appear overnight when they reach adolescent or teen years...those types of kids were monsters even when young, only thing is they were just easier for the parents to tolerate when in grade school... June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also people on this list who use different names, and from their terminology, and certain key words often leave clues as to who they are.Hot Mail, and stuff like that - coming to this list members from time to time.again, rather obvious who they are Just to clarify matters, I have started utilizing a 2nd ID, a Hotmail ID, to access this list from work...but I still use the ID 'YnrChyldzWyld', and I still sign my name 'June', and I still endeavor to keep within the list limit of 7 posts per day, no matter WHAT account I use (IOW, I'm not using the Hotmail account as a way around the list limit, neither am I trying to hide that it's me who's doing the posting, else I'd have come up with a totally different ID and not sign my name...) June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] French toast mafia?
-Caveat Lector- hi, i have been hearing scary talk from London, England, about another group of people who wear dark clothes and listen to these goth-black metal music, now they are called "french toast mafia" or so David Smythe said (one of there members) they have all the resemblences of the trenchcoat mob (i.e there into quake2, and doom and all these gore games) and Mr. Smythe said they hate America and Americans, Your post brought something back to mind...at least a year ago, probably two, perhaps a few more, there was a story in the news about a strange murder where two people from London were found dead somewhere in California...and I remember the two were dressed all in black (not sure if they wore trenchcoats)... Anyone else remember this? It got a fair amount of news, and a lot of Internet discussion, at the time...and then got dropped... Then again, didn't the Heaven's Gate crowd also dress all in black? June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Colorado's heroes
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and that is about all this guy said. During this press conference, Steve Davis said NOTHING. When asked about--by name, one of the students that had been arrested Tuesday, Steve Davis said, "I don't *even* know who that is." I've actually admired Davis' way of dealing with the press...and yes, I spotted right off that he was bluffing every time he said "I don't know about that" and "I have no information regarding that", etc. First off, this is an ongoing murder investigation, and one does NOT reveal everything one has uncovered in the way of evidence to the press; secondly, I like it that Davis doesn't seem to be a robot parroting the 'official' line...when the media was trumpeting the 'Harris left a suicide note on his computer' line, Davis would not give any credence to the story, and indeed from what I've seen, he's been leaving open the possibility of more than 2 people having done the shooting and bombing on Tuesday, and that Harris and Klebold may NOT have died by their own hands. I'd be really bothered if he was spoonfeeding the press (and hence the public) packaged 'answers'... One reporter actually said, "Are you taking notes on *ALL* of the questions for which you have NO ANSWER, so that you may ask your superiors the answerSo we can get some actual answers at the next conference?" Davis said, "Well, I have a pretty good memory, so I don't think I need to write them down." Which was his way of saying "You'll get the answers on OUR schedule, not YOURS..."...again, since this is an ongoing investigation, I have no problem that he's not sucking up to the media by giving them what they want, just so he can become a media darling... That is called PROFESSIONALISM... You can actually hear the Trenchcoat yelling, and shooting, right outside the door. Just on the other side of this unlocked door, more potential victims are waiting for the Special Weapons Assault Team to storm the building and protect them. This event gave police the exact location of the shooter. The single adult and untold amount of children were ALIVE and IN HARM'S WAY. The police ask, "Can you lock the door?" First of all, it wasn't 'the police' saying that, but the 911 dispatcher; secondly this call came within the first four minutes of the initial call, hence the SWAT team wasn't even there yet... Incidentally, a few of these children have stated that when they initially dialed 911, the line was busy for the first seven to ten minutes. Presumably because the switchboard got overwhelmed with incoming calls; remember, there are just so many lines available, and they were keeping some tied up, as in the case of the teacher you just mentioned, where they made sure they kept her on the line... *At least* three (3) hours AFTER the original telephone calls from the kids that were INSIDE, S.W.A.T. "appeared" to enter "about" 1.p.m., and this was, "about a half-hour AFTER" the "authorities said the last shots were heard". The first calls to 911, made at the beginning of the rampage, were made at approx. 11:25am, during the school's lunch period...so if the cops went in at 1pm, that's a 90 minute delay, NOT a 180 minute one... June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Fwd: Issue S99-54, Day 32, Update 2 (Apr. 24; 11:30PM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special "NATO's War ofn Serbia" Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-54, Day 32, Update 2 --- Apr. 24, 1999; 11:30PM EDT HEADLINES Phoenix 1. Come and Join TiM, American Patriots in "March on Washington '99" Belgrade 2. Check Out TiM Photo Album from Recent Trip -- 1. Come and Join TiM, American Patriots in "March on Washington '99" PHOENIX, Apr. 24 - All TiM readers who can make it to Washington, DC, on May 1, are invited to attend the American Patriots' "March on Washington '99," at the Ellipse - the south lawn of the White House. Your editor will be one of the speakers. This nationwide protest against the New World Order's stooges, like Bill Clinton and other abusers of our constitutional rights and liberties, had been planned well before their latest travesty - NATO's needless war on a sovereign country of Yugoslavia, America's ally in two of the 20th century world wars. Well, now that the NATO planes and missiles have been staging their daily raids against innocent civilians in Yugoslavia for almost five weeks, come and join your editor who will speak on the topic of: "Five Weeks of America's Infamy: Why Clinton Cannot Win the Illegal War He Started." In his talk, the TiM editor also plans to reveal the real reasons behind NATO's attack on Serbia, and suggest ways for America to win back its liberty, its Constitution and its pride. Here's an "official" invitation for all able-bodied TiM readers and supporters to join us at the south lawn of the White House on May 1: MARCH ON WASHINGTON 99 SATURDAY, MAY 1, 1999, NOON - 5:00 PM, WASHINGTON, D.C. NW QUADRANT OF THE ELLIPSE (SOUTH SIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE) ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT KOSOVO CHINAGATE? EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW? TRUTH IN MEDIA? JOIN THE NATIONWIDE GRASSROOTS VOICE OF AMERICA JOIN OUR CARAVAN OF CONSCIENCE TO WASHINGTON, D.C. Sponsored by True Blue Patriots, Citizens for Honest Government, members of Free Republic, and individual citizens... Sign on that you will attend March 99 at our Website: http://www.march99.com Additional Participating Websites: http://www.truthinmedia.org, Truth in Media; http://home.fuse.net/trueblue - True Blue home page, www.worldwebtalk.com - Thursday evenings, 8-11 PM EST www.impeachclinton.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your busy schedule doesnt allow you to attend, let me urge you to organize your own local rally to call attention to the growing number of decent Americans who are fed up with this indecent president. Ill help you in every way I can because your actions are so important to our shared national future. Campers have a saying when they counter obstacles: Dont complain! Do Something! Thats advice we must take to heart as we try to survive two terms of Bill Clintons immoral behavior. So let me urge you now, in the strongest possible terms, to join fellow conservatives from across the country in doing something that is very, very important. Do Something! We have national broadcasters willing to cover our rally and spread our message. Our challenge is to give them a gigantic rally filled with sign-carrying protesters, who are fed up to the gills with Clintons behavior. We need you there! Call toll free to: 1-877 531-TALK or 1-877 532-TALK. Notify friends and family of the March on Washington 99 Rally, on Saturday, May 1 at the NW Quadrant of the Ellipse from noon - 5:00 p.m. Write, fax, phone, e-mail! You can register your plans to attend at the Rally web site: www.March99.com Join the buses and/or carpool to the March in Washington, D.C. Call 1-800-777-8127 for travel information. If you cant attend our Caravan of Conscience, alternate rallies are being organized closer to your home. Help us select a site and recruit other participants. Notify our True Blue office and let me know your plans. Write letters to the editor, call your radio and TV stations and be part of Nationwide Live Talk Show. Become a Grapevine Member or Coordinator. Contact the Grapevine coordinator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join the May 1 rallies. Join the Petition Drive. Petitions are available at http://home.fuse.net/trueblue or www.March99.com. Or, you can call 1-800-777-8127; leave your name, address and request. For the sake of freedom, Pat Cooksey, True Blue Patriots Belgrade 2. Check Out TiM Photo Album from Recent Trip PHOENIX, Apr. 24 - We invite you to check out the photos which TiM has just posted at our Web site which your editor took during his recent trip to Serbia. Just follow the links from our home page - www.truthinmedia.org. -- NOTE: To cancel the e-mail
[CTRL] Strange Symbolism at NATO Summit (fwd)
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STRANGE SYMBOLISM AT NATO SUMMIT
(CNNS, 04/25/99) -- A broadcast by local independent radio
(WEFT-FM) news outlet, "News From Neptune" (4/24/99), pointed out
some strange symbolism at the NATO summit held these past few
days in Washington, DC.
According to the broadcast, the main conference layout involved
the NATO "logo," a cross eerily reminiscent of the Nazi swastika,
surrounded by tables arranged in the form of a pentagon.
("Pentagon," as in *the* Pentagon.)
This news service has been imperfectly able to corroborate the
existence of a weird symbolic layout arranged for the NATO summit
main conference. From news video of the NATO summit, it indeed
appears that the conference tables were arranged in the form of a
pentagon, and surrounded the NATO "iron cross" logo.
Below is an attempt to illustrate the conference layout:
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The symbolism is telling: the U.S. military (Pentagon) surrounds
the NATO "iron cross" logo.
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[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: (Fwd) - useful excerpts from IOM medicinal marijuana report
- SNETNEWS Mailing List Forwarded E-Mail Message Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:10:22 -0400 useful excerpts from IOM medicinal marijuana report -- Marijuana Policy Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: Special thanks to everyone who responded to MPP's request for donations to help us continue making the most of the Institute of Medicine's (IOM's) landmark report on medicinal marijuana. More than a month after its March 17 release, the IOM report is still making news. And according to a Gallup poll conducted March 19-21, 73% of Americans support "making marijuana legally available for doctors to prescribe in order to reduce pain and suffering." Yet, according to the latest issue of _Psychiatric News_, the Drug Czar's office still endorses arresting medicinal marijuana users. (Please see MPP news release below.) MPP has just published "Questions about medicinal marijuana answered by the Institute of Medicine's report" -- which is available on-line at http://www.mpp.org/science.html. This document, a compilation of the best excerpts from the IOM report, reaffirms that the science is on our side. Consequently, the IOM report will be a useful tool that we can all use to change the laws. Please read the aforementioned document and let your three members of Congress know the truth. In particular, please ask your U.S. representative to co-sponsor U.S. Rep. Barney Frank's (D-Mass.) new bill, H.R. 912, which would allow states to determine their own medicinal marijuana laws without federal interference. (Please see http://www.mpp.org/912alert.html for specifics.) Finally, please read the following news release to see the kind of cruelty and dishonesty that we are fighting against. Thank you. This news release appears on the Web at http://www.mpp.org/nr042099.html FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE APRIL 20, 1999 NATIONAL DRUG WAR LEADERS DISREGARD SCIENCE IN MEDICINAL MARIJUANA DEBATE One Month After Institute of Medicine Endorsed Legal Access to Medicinal Marijuana, Drug Czar's Office Reaffirms Policy of Arresting Patients WASHINGTON, DC -- The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) endorses the continuing arrest of medicinal marijuana users, according to the April 16 issue of _Psychiatric News_, the newspaper of the American Psychiatric Association (APA). A full month has passed since the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine (IOM) released its landmark report -- yet national drug war leaders maintain their hard-line stance against medicinal marijuana users. ONDCP Deputy Director Donald Vereen told _Psychiatric News_, "It doesn't matter what the excuse is," and, drawing an analogy to "using cocaine to treat depression," he said that "you are going to get arrested just as fast." "The prestigious Institute of Medicine recognized marijuana's medical value and endorsed giving seriously ill people legal access to the plant," said Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) co-director Chuck Thomas. Indeed, at IOM's March 17 news conference, IOM Principal Investigator Dr. John Benson said, "[W]e concluded that there are limited circumstances in which we recommend smoking marijuana for medical uses." "The nation's drug warriors first pretended to like the report, but for the past month they've been ignoring it and outright maligning it," said Thomas. "Medicinal marijuana users remain criminals, and there is no change to these laws in sight." In addition, a new Gallup poll, conducted after the IOM report was released (from March 19-21), found that 73% of the American people support "making marijuana legally available for doctors to prescribe in order to reduce pain and suffering." "Drug Czar McCaffrey and his ilk are completely out of touch with the American people, as well as the science," said MPP's Chuck Thomas. Below is a sampling of some opinions recently expressed by national drug war leaders. (Note: When statements from the IOM report follow the drug warriors' opinions, the page numbers refer to the "pre-publication copy" of the IOM report, released on 3/17/99.) * "[IOM's report] is little more than a `thinly veiled effort' to promote legalization of the drug, [U.S.] Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) said," according to an Associated Press article that appeared in the _Atlanta Journal_ on March 19. "Barr argued that the panel was heavily influenced by the Marijuana Policy Project, which advocates legalization of marijuana for medical uses." * According to a March 22 _USA Today_ article, U.S. Rep. John Mica (R-Florida) "announced plans to hold hearings in late April on drug
[CTRL] OEN 4/25/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - "In some ways this is a tabloid government and it tried to fight a tabloid war," said a senior naval officer. "They were swayed by their own rhetoric, believed in surgical strikes and an easy capitulation, and did not sufficiently consider the practicalities." Om K - Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia Oil Blockade Could Lead to War with Russia Montenegro is also alarmed TENSION mounted between Russia and the West last night after Moscow's special envoy to Yugoslavia condemned Nato plans for an oil embargo on Serbia. Viktor Chernomyrdin said that the naval blockade proposed by Nato on Friday was "bad" and could drag Russia into the conflict. As one of the main oil-exporting countries to Yugoslavia, he made clear Russia intended to carry on trading and was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying: "The problem in Kosovo can neither be solved by bombing nor by a blockade. Russia should not be dragged into the conflict in the Balkans. If we do not find common ground at the negotiating table, we could be dragged into a third world war." Before the air war in Kosovo, Russia supplied about 12,000 barrels of oil a day to Yugoslavia, and commentators fear that the Kremlin could use its navy to support its merchant ships. Nato plans for a sea blockade follow earlier moves by the European Union to step up the oil embargo, but fall short of the all-out blockade wanted by senior generals because of French objections to the move. As a result, it remains unclear what will happen if a ship presses on with its cargo in defiance of Nato vessels. Nato leaders are unhappy that pilots are being put in danger by flying missions to destroy oil refineries and storage facilities while supplies are being replenished by sea. Jamie Shea, the Nato spokesman, said last night that it was now believed that the Serbs were siphoning petrol from abandoned refugee cars and that it was important to "switch off the oil tap completely" to Yugoslavia. Nato is already preparing for a blockade and British Marines will join the operation today. The elite Fleet Standby Rifle Troop will be deployed to Royal Navy ships and the heavily-armed Marines will board ships to reduce the chances of confrontation with embargo-breaking crews. Britain has four ships in the area: the aircraft carrier Invincible, taking part in the air war; the Swiftsure class submarine Splendid, carrying cruise missiles; and two Type 23 frigates - Somerset and Iron Duke. Other Navy ships are on stand-by in Portsmouth. The European Union earlier approved its own embargo on oil and petroleum products delivery to Yugoslavia and asked other European countries who want to become EU members to join. Romania has said it will respect a Nato oil embargo, but it is unclear if Bulgaria, which is also not an EU member, will stop petroleum shipments by truck across its western borders with Yugoslavia. Although American companies are not affected by the embargo, Texaco - which recently shipped 65,000 barrels of fuel to the port of Bar in Montenegro under an existing contract - said it will now halt all such shipments. Serbia's crude oil production averaged 18,000 barrels a day last year, and it imported another 54,000 barrels each day, mainly from Russia and Greece, to meet daily consumption needs of 72,000 barrels. Nato bombing has put its two oil refineries out of action and Serbia's oil company, NIS Jugopetrol, now takes delivery of refined fuels through Bar and on overland routes from Romania and Bulgaria. Serbian oil supplies were already down before the current crisis because Belgrade was short of money to pay its suppliers of crude oil. However, crude is of little use now as the need is for petrol and diesel. Belgrade has been stepping up such imports by sea to compensate for the effects of Nato attacks. But many of the ships arriving at Bar are registered in countries such as Panama and Belize, making it difficult to trace the shipments. The prospect of an oil embargo and naval blockade has alarmed Montenegro, the pro-Western republic which is neutral in the conflict, but it has indicated that it will accept international monitors to ensure its oil imports are only for civilian use and do not reach the Serbs. The London Telegraph, April 25, 1999 Information Warfare NATO Starts to Believe Its Own Propaganda Maybe NATO should take a few lessons from the MasterLiar MasturBator himself THEY were "Task Force Hawk", the "devastating tank-killers", and within days they would be getting "up close and personal to the Milosevic armour units in Kosovo". That, at least, was the promise on April 4 as the Pentagon announced the deployment of 24 Apache attack helicopters to Albania. By April 7, the same officials were admitting "it would take a little bit longer . . . there's a lot of complication, we're not sure where they're going to go." At
Re: [CTRL] Colorado's heroes
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was rather amazed at their reticence, especially in light of the usual knocking doors down and throwing everybody (male, female, child) to the floor and shooting the family dog. That's because in those situations, those whom the police are attacking are themselved unarmed, or minimally armed. Seems like when the cops come up against a REAL challenge, they tuck their tails between their legs and run yelping to hide in a corner... I loved the explanation one of the cops in charge gave for not rescuing a boy who held up a 'HELP!' sign in a window, a boy who later bled to death...seems the cop was worried about him and the other cops getting hurt... HELLO?! Isn't that their JOB?! To take risks to protect the public? June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Johnny's HomePage
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/johnny/ A HREF="http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/johnny/"Johnny's HomePage/A - Many articles and interesting stuff. Om K - HERE'S JOHNNY!! My Web Pages in various places have been the source of various Web outrages and interviews with the CID and Scotland on Sunday, but just now it's pretty tame, though you can check a few pages maintained by me - Strange But True A compendium of essays about things that take my interest. Give it a try. (Under construction of course!) Dunblane Massacre Resource Page Including the British Home Office's 'proof' that guns cause crime. Do you know enough psychology and stats to see what's propaganda and what's science? The Jeff Cooper's Commentaries Archive Maintained by me in conjunction with Barry in California, Keith in Texas and Bill in Vegas, all via e-mail. Isn't modern technology wonderful. Warning: the opinions expressed here may not be to everyone's liking. The Original Linsey Dawn McKenzie HomePage All in the best possible taste! Warning: includes revealing photographs of "page 3 girl" Linsey. Sacrifice - a screenplay A full-length feature film screenplay, written for a competition ages ago. I love it - hope you will too. (Yes, my first novel is "under construction" too.) Warning: contains strong language and scenes that some may find offensive. Craig Walker's Ring of Fire World Tour My pal Craig blaggin' his way around the world for charity - send him some money. In case you asked, here's a link that explains my politics - The Libertarian Alliance (UK) "Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And hain't that a big enough majority in any town?" Mark Twain, Huckleberry Finn Send mail to Johnny at: John Pate [EMAIL PROTECTED] But use my PGP Public Key - http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/johnny/pgpkey.html This page last maintained Sat Mar 27 20:51:51 GMT 1999 Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Beyond ÔVictim DisarmamentÕ
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.17/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.17/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 17 /A - The Laissez Faire Times April 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 17 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Littleton Shootings Beyond Victim Disarmament by Sunni Maravillosa The recent shooting at a Littleton, Colorado high school has the gun control advocates calling for more laws to "end the violence". The mainstream media, ever so comfortable in their role of dutifully reciting the propaganda of the anti-gun crowd, add little of substance to the dialog. True to form, much of the commentary in the aftermath of Littleton is the usual hand-wringing and calls for more laws to help "protect the children". Havent we had enough of that? How do we "end the violence"? Well, they reason, guns are responsible for much of the violence in our society today, so a ban on guns would reduce the violence. This logic is so tortuous as to be laughableexcept that people believe it. When I hear someone claim that "guns cause violence", I imagine hundreds of gunsrevolvers, semi-automatic pistols, rifles, shotgunssprouting little feet and hands, running around and pulling their own triggers and "causing" violence. In the absence of guns, Bad Guys will choose other means of expressing their violent rage, be it knives, bombs, cars, chopsticks, or stones. Violence cannot be legislated away. Even if "gun control" were the answer, why doesnt all the gun control legislation at the federal level alone accomplish this stated goal of protecting us? Despite all the laws that require background checks, waiting periods, firearms training, or that simply prohibit firearms carry by private citizens, more and more people are getting shot at in public places. Bad Guys know that places where guns are prohibited provide a target-rich environment, and, more importantly, an environment where its unlikely that theyll be facing return fire. Public schools are especially attractive, in part because of the ratio of young people to adults. Students in schools are under increasing surveillance, including locker and vehicle searches, and metal detector checks upon entering the school in some places. A young person who wants an education wont risk expulsion, so its highly unlikely that most kids will carry a weapon for protection. Teachers and school administrators generally dont have to go through that gauntlet, but the laws apply to them as well. If they ignore the laws, they can be fired, and with the horror of carrying a firearm to school on their record, its a foregone conclusion that no other school district would hire such a monster. Schools have become places where almost everyone is unarmed in other words, the ideal place for a killing spree. Is it any wonder that thats what we see happening? In nature, life adjusts to the conditions of the environmentin the desert, you find plants that dont require much water, and animals that are nocturnal to avoid the heat of the day. When laws create conditions that make peaceful people easy prey, how can people fail to see that its the same principle at work? Yet thats what is happening with gun control laws. We "extremists" who support the Second Amendment have a phrase that accurately describes gun control laws. Theyre called "victim disarmament laws". Law-abiding individuals who feel they have a legitimate need for a handgun wait agonizing days for the background check and "cooling off period" mandated by lawand run the risk of being shot because the criminal doesnt jump through the governments hoops. They will not buy automatic weaponsillegal simply because they do the job with greater efficiencywhile a criminal seeks out such weapons precisely for that reason. They will obey the laws that limit where they may lawfully carry weapons, while criminals seek out those places. Gun control laws create a disarmed class of citizens, and easy prey for criminals. Victim disarmament is the tip of the iceberg, though. The gun-grabbers are creating new victims for criminals. Every gun that is taken out of a peaceful persons hands is one less opportunity for the good guys to fight back. Why do you think there are drive-by shootings in California, where gun control is strict, and such crimes are unheard of in Vermont, which has unrestricted carry for its law-abiding citizens? It isnt because Vermont has no roads! Victims of Gun Control Rather than ending the violence, gun control laws are increasing the likelihood of law-abiding citizens meeting an untimely, unnecessary end while conducting routine business. Every person who has died or been injured at the hands of someone spraying bullets in a public place is a victim created by the gun-control crowd. By creating gun-free zones of the public schools, the politicians are making especially easy targets
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Liz Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: june, i believe bundy did admit at the end to some of the murders--to buy time, he took the law on a tour and they found some bodies-this was in an attempt to put off his execution Not that I read...the only thing anyone could get out of him was to get him to 'speculate' in the 3rd person about the murders, and by so doing he revealed things only the murderer would have known...IOW, he'd say something "Well, if 'someone' was to do this, this is probably how'd he do it...' and then go on to provide details... I never heard of any additional bodies being found after he was convicted...but if they were, it was via this 'I'd imagine the killer would have done this' sort of equivication Bundy played... He'd studied law, and knew how to play people to benefit himself...he had nothing to gain, and a lot to lose, by admitting to the murders after denying them...so he knew just how far to push things, so that he'd be able to get ego strokes by displaying how 'clever' he was, and yet not provide anything which legally could be used against him... ? i may be wrong in this ? perhaps im confusing him with another serial killer? i know henry lee lucas did this also Yes, Lucas bragged about any number of killings...some of which were unknown, and so he probably DID do them (else how would he have known where a body could be found?)...but he got carried away, and apparantly confessed to some unsolved murders, which on investigation were found to have been impossible for him to have committed (murders committed when he wasn't even in the state, murders committed while he'd been incarcerated for one thing or another, etc.)...so while he DID provide info on some unknown murders, it seems as if he enjoyed being the center of attention a little too much, and started admitting to any and all unexplained deaths over the prior decades... June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/24/99 10:20:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted Bundy never had a list, and to the day of his execution never admitted he did the murders. June I was under the impression that he did confess right before he was executed and agreed to tell the police about more bodies to prolong his life. Am I wrong? Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- Bill Curtis did a bit on Bundy's life and it showed he confessed and became a born again Christian. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Fwd: TAKING OFF THE MASK]
From a friend. Teo1000 Received: from mcs.molalla.net (mcs.molalla.net [143.227.44.69]) by sparrow.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06956; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avoice (mol216.molalla.net [143.227.37.216]) by mcs.molalla.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18226; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: 018e01be8e1f$0bb08240$[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "a voice for children" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TAKING OFF THE MASK Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:52:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_018B_01BE8DE4.5F4A0920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_018B_01BE8DE4.5F4A0920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "The illusion of freedom (in America) will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where=20 the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just=20 take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they=20 will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see=20 the brick wall at the back of the theater."- Frank Zappa ---+--- --=_NextPart_000_018B_01BE8DE4.5F4A0920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN" HTML HEAD META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVquot;The illusion of freedom (in America) will continue as long = asBRit's=20 profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where BRthe illusion = becomes=20 too expensive to maintain, they will just BRtake down the scenery, = they will=20 pull back the curtains, they BRwill move the tables and chairs out of = the way=20 and you will see BRthe brick wall at the back of the theater.quot;- = Frank=20 ZappaBRBRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;= nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;= nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;=20 ---lt;+gt;---BR/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_018B_01BE8DE4.5F4A0920--
[CTRL] Journalists Murdered by NATO (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- JOURNALISTS MURDERED BY NATO (CNNS, 04/25/99) -- According to latest reports, 15 civilians were killed by the NATO bombing of the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building in Belgrade [1]. This number, 15 dead, adds a further chilling link between the Columbine High massacre and the RTS massacre, since besides their juxtaposition in time, they both now share equal body counts. According to a report in the Electronic Telegraph, there had been division within NATO over whether or not to actually bomb the RTS building, rather than its transmitters, but that the U.S. Pentagon's wishes finally prevailed. Reporter John Simpson says he had been receiving on-again, off-again whispered warnings: "Don't go to the RTS building tonight." But the tragic Columbine High massacre in Littleton, Colorado, seems to have opportunely provided cover for the NATO attack on the RTS building. The Littleton massacre occurred on a Tuesday. Then, writes Simpson, "on Wednesday, came another private whisper. The Pentagon has won the battle; don't go to Serbian Television tonight." [2] The USA mass media's blanketing coverage of the high school massacre served to overwhelm coverage of the other massacre which occurred the following day, in Belgrade. In his article, Simpson describes some of what he saw at the bombed RTS building: "I saw the make-up woman again on Friday morning. Or, to be more exact, I saw her foot. It was sticking out at a strange angle from the heap of crumbled brick and plaster that was all that was left of her room." [3] Australian journalist Miroslav Mlinar contributes his own eyewitness description of the horror at the Belgrade building: "I saw three bodies protruding from the wreckage. I approached the nearest one, but the man was already dead, all torn apart. I moved on to pull out the second one. Then went back for the third one, but then I collapsed. The firemen arrived then. This has been a horror that cannot be put into words..." [4] Ted Turner's Cable News Network (CNN) may have been tipped-off ahead of time that the RTS building was to be bombed. CNN pushed hard for an exclusive interview with the Serbian Minister of Information, Aleksandar Vucic.Had he consented to the interview, planned for broadcast on CNN's "Larry King Live," Vucic would have been in the RTS building when the NATO attack occurred. Says Vucic, "I've found out that interview was scheduled exactly at time when attack happened, in RTS rooms. It would be funny for me to say that somebody wanted to kill me. I think that they wanted, at first place, spectacular live show in which everybody could see how it looks like when missile shot." [5] A "spectacular live show"? Or was CNN part of a plot to murder Vucic? Journalists worldwide are condemning the NATO attack on the Serb television building. After all, if we can kill their journalists, then who's to say they can't kill our journalists? According to Chrystyna Lapychak, director of the New York-based committee for the protection of reporters, the murder of civilians at the RTS building "might forever jeopardize correspondents who report about various conflicts all over the world. Under the Geneva Convention, reporters are not fighters." [6] By violating the Geneva contract, NATO may have voided that contract. In another NATO atrocity, 5 children have died after a NATO plane dropped a "cluster bomb" on them. "Edon (3), Fisnik (9), Osman (13), Burim (14) and Vajdat (15) Kodza were killed. Two wounded boys are transferred to the Pristina Hospital. Shrapnels of the cluster bomb lightly injured another four kids." [7] Besides "cluster bombs," this news service has reported on the use, by NATO, of depleted uranium (DU) weapons in Yugoslavia. [8] This use of DU weapons is corroborated in a recent report, which states that "Remnants of radioactive ammunition have been found in many places raided by NATO planes..." [9] It has also come to light that U.S. Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, via the U.S. State Department, may have subtly threatened the lives of some U.S. Congress members who wanted to go on their own fact-finding mission to Yugoslavia. According to Congressman Kurt Weldon, he was peremptorily told "that such a trip should not take place." And, according to reports, "The Congressmen were not only told that the U.S. Administration was against the tour but were warned that no one could guarantee their security." [10] --- Notes --- [1] "NATO bombs Serb TV off the air." UPI, 4/25/99. [2] "What signal does this send?" by John Simpson. Electronic Telegraph, 4/25/99. [3] Ibid. [4] "Tens of Dead in the Attack on the RTS." 4/24/99. www.serbia-info.com/news [5]
Re: [CTRL] China Labels US/NATO Policy Terrorism
-Caveat Lector- Is this the same Chinese gov't that Mr. Clinton is now referring to as "our world partner"? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Freedom's Enemy on C-SPAN, Monday, 4/26/99
-Caveat Lector- Know Your Enemy, and you'll know how to fight them! --- Peter L. Sroufe, Passionate Charter Member of the International Society of Clinton Haters "FREE SPEECH! Use it, or lose it!" --- Ken Hamblin --C-SPAN 08:00am to 09:00am ET 05:00am to 06:00am PT LIVE Call-In Democratic Socialism C-SPAN Washington Journal Washington, DC ID : 122791 Length : 1 hr 00 min Event date : 04/26/99 Llewellyn, Frank, President, Democratic Socialists of America - THE ENEMY WITHIN! http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/pc/pc.members.html Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. --- Unknown "Anyone who defends Clinton might as well hold down a woman while he rapes her." --- Cheryl Enyart Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Slobodan Milosevic Interview on RealPlayer A MUST!
-Caveat Lector- with Professor Ron Hatchett. (Hatchett, Ron, Analyst, University of St. Thomas, Houston, Texas Milosevic, Slobodan, President, Serbia) (Note-This Interview was arranged by a Montana Freedom-Lover who is a personal friend of the Milosevic family. Original interview, 4/19/99, is 66 minutes, uncut and unedited.) (FOR MAXIMUM DISTRIBUTION!) http://www.cspan.org/ "FREE SPEECH! Use it, or lose it!" --- Ken Hamblin Hell no, Bill wouldn't go - But He'll send your kids to Kosovo! STOP! Your Help is Killing Us! Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Rush Limbaugh, Council on Foreign Relations, John Birch Society, NewWorld Order
-Caveat Lector- Let me add this, I realized when the Birch Society invaded the Mormon Church in the 60 period, thas all was not well; but felt people were entitled to own opinion. In our political group, they brought in quite few real hatersand took lot of fun out of life. They hated Kennedy; said he was member of CFRlater, in the 70 period one of their publications apologized for so stating. When you mix religion with something so political, you can produce a lot of crazies. The truth cannot be biased.I followed JB for years; their love life was Ronald Reagan on a horse sitting under a rainbow. They have been a valuable source of information but when Welch died you never know who takes over. The haters with rabies seem to have disappearedthe Mormon Church, well look at their Library being shot up.You Shall Know the Truth, but they will shoot up your library? I am not afraid of the truth right or wrong; but, now they have brought the kids into it. Thank you for your space. JB is just another controlled confraternityas anything else, if it gets too big you change your name, or go find another Club. Colleen And if you get caught.always keep one foot in the stirup, as the Arabs say when one about to tell great truth. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Friday, April 23, 1999
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 2:34 PM Subject: AANEWS for Friday, April 23, 1999 from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for April 23, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S AANEWS #561 ~~ 4/23/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "For Reason and the First Amendment" -- In This Issue... * Bauer exploits Colorado slaying, launches nomination drive * "The Great God Debate" -- Tomorrow! * Alabama town is "City of Prayer" * "City of Prayer" Proclamation * Update: Hysteria, scapegoating from Colorado * Resources * About this list... BAUER USING "TRENCH COAT" WARFARE TO LAUNCH CAMPAIGN Religious conservative activist Gary Bauer officially announced his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination on Wednesday, and immediately took aim to exploit the tragic shooting deaths at a Littleton, Colorado high school. "Virtue is in free fall," declared Bauer. "Reverence and respect are disappearing, and the question before us is: Will the family, as well?" At a rally in his hometown of Newport, Ky., Bauer linked the deaths of over a dozen students and a teacher at Columbine High School to the culture-war issues he has become famous for, at least inside the D.C. beltway. "The culture glorifies death in a thousand different ways. We've got movies and music and television shows that show people dying as if it were something that was as simply as the sun coming up in the morning." Despite his identification as a conservative who is mistrustful of government, Bauer added, "In the America I want, those Hollywood producers and directors -- they wouldn't be able to show their faces in public, because you and every other American would point to them and say, 'Shame! Shame! Shame'" The shootings in Littleton involve at least two students linked to an affinity group identified as the "Trench coat Mafia." Since Tuesday's tragedy, a variety of theories have been advanced to explain the behavior of the disaffected students -- everything from the availability of firearms, and the alleged prevalence of violent imagery throughout the culture to lack of prayer and religion in the public schools, and a disintegration of "family values." The 52-year old head of the influential, Washington D.C.- based Family Research Council enters a primary field already crowded with candidates, most of whom agree with Bauer's religious conservative agenda. What distinguishes Bauer, though, is his intransigence on the need to emphasize cultural issues such as ban on all abortion, over the more traditional GOP campaign issues like taxes and the economy. Bauer also is competing for the same party base, the GOP's Christian religious fundamentalist and evangelical members already being courted by other candidates, including former Vice President Dan Quayle, radio broadcaster Alan Keyes, commentator Pat Buchanan, New Hampshire Sen. Bob Smith and millionaire publisher Steve Forbes. Others, such as Elizabeth Dole and Texas Governor George W. Bush, while ideologically similar, are increasingly viewed with suspicion by the party's religious wing, in part because of recent statements both have made concerning abortion. Bush, for instance, while leading the field in both surveys and funding, has declared that Americans are not ready for a total ban on abortion; Ms. Dole has expressed similar thoughts. Bauer's strategy will attempt to mirror Pat Buchanan's upset win in the 1996 New Hampshire primary, and get off to an early start in the race for delegates. While he is considered a virtual unknown by many political pundits, Bauer is recognized for his strength as a communicator. He has also established a network of supporters throughout the country, and can likely count on the support of the 600,000 FRC members, too. The New York Times noted, "The group's large mailing list has given Bauer a built-in base of supporters and donors." Political scientist John C. Green of the University of Akron added that the FRC's national base gives Bauer "a lot of resources," and even a shot at finishing a respectable second or third at the GOP year 2000 convention in Philadelphia. Bauer wins, or even respectable showings in the primaries, could lead to a floor-fight over delegates, as well as tension within the Platform Committee when issues like the abortion plank are discussed. Many religious conservatives see Bauer as the "last chance" candidate within the Republican party. Earlier this year, Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation expressed his disenchantment with both the GOP and the nation, insisting that the acquittal of President Clinton on impeachment charges demonstrated
[CTRL] U.S. To Tighten Controls On Hormone-Free Beef
-Caveat Lector- (You mean the US government does not protect us from chemicals in our food... duh! --S) Sunday April 25 12:27 AM ET U.S. To Tighten Controls On Hormone-Free Beef BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The United States has agreed to tighten controls on hormone-free beef exports after a European Union study said supposedly hormone-free U.S. beef contained hormone residues, an EU document showed Friday. The EU's ruling Commission Wednesday threatened to ban imports of U.S. hormone-free beef from June 15 if a solution to the problem could not be found by then. U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky initially reacted angrily to the move, saying it was a step in the wrong direction, while acknowledging that any technical issues concerning U.S. beef imports could probably be resolved. But U.S. officials, in talks with their EU counterparts in Washington Wednesday, took a more conciliatory approach, according to the Commission document obtained by Reuters. The officials said the United States did not dispute the objectivity of the EU study and was anxious ``to correct the problem'' of the residues, the paper said. ``The U.S. was surprised at the results of the ... study, since they had no advance awareness of problems and believed that the control measures in place were effective,'' it said. The United States asked the EU for a list of slaughterhouses which supplied the meat analyzed in the study, it added. U.S. officials assured the EU that they were reviewing controls in slaughterhouses and would not sign meat export certificates to the EU unless they were satisfied, it said. The Commission Friday welcomed these comments. ``We welcome the United States' constructive approach. We have a mutual interest in resolving the problem as we have no desire to ban U.S. imports provided they are produced without hormones,'' Commission spokesman Gerry Kiely told Reuters. Kiely has said previously he expects EU veterinary chiefs Tuesday to endorse the Commission's view that an import ban is necessary. A formal proposal would probably then be drawn up Wednesday, he said. The ban, if adopted, would effectively block all U.S. beef imports into the EU which already bars the import of all U.S. beef produced from cattle reared using hormones. The EU imports between 7,000 and 8,000 tons of U.S. hormone-free beef a year, worth around $20 million. It is high quality meat sold in restaurants and shops. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [11] Crime, Big Business Watergate
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Breaking of a President 1974 - The Nixon Connection Marvin Miller, Compiler Therapy Productions, Inc.©1975 LCCCN 7481547 --[11]-- The Havanna Connection The men who gathered together in 1934 to form the National Crime Syndicate had long been aware of the opportunities for American criminals in Cuba. During 1919 and 1920, Arnold Rothstein, then operating gambling casinos in New York, joined with Charles Stoneham and others to take over operation of the casino and race-track in Havana. It was easy to foresee that Cuba would become a base for illegal operations, outside the jurisdiction of American law enforcement and yet close enough to Florida to permit coordination with illegal activities inside the United States. However, organized crime was not to make major investments in Cuba until the end of World War II. The 1920's were primarily used by the developing gangs to exploit the profitability of Prohibition. The major emphasis in the 1930's was the development of regional gambling centers in places like Kentucky, and the consolidation of the modem mob in the criminal activities Rothstein had pioneered: bookmaking, labor racketeering and the drug traffic. The years of World War II were taken up with black marketeering, the counterfeiting of ration stamps, and obtaining for the Syndicate its extortionate share of cost-plus defense contracts. ROTHSTEIN CHEATS HIS PARTNERS Nevertheless, it is typical of Rothstein that as early as 1921 he used his base in Cuba to cheat his own early partners in smuggling, pickpocket Irving "Waxey Gordon" Wexler and Detroit bootlegger Max "Big Maxey" Greenberg. In our chapter on The Development of the Modern Mob, it has been mentioned that at the very beginning of Prohibition Rothstein had obtained a ship and arranged for eleven trips from Europe to the United States with smuggled whisky. Wexler and Greenberg had approached Rothstein with a proposal that he bankroll the two in a modest venture to smuggle liquor from Canada. Rothstein refused, but suggested the grandiose scheme of bringing 20,000 cases of Scotch whisky from Europe at a single time. As he alone was capable of financing such a huge project, Rothstein made himself the majority partner. Rothstein then contracted for a Norwegian ship and, through American criminals exiled in Europe, stocked it with the whiskyand English ale and uncut diamonds from Holland. The last was a private cargo for Rothstein alone. Each time, the ship was met outside the U. S. three-mile limit by six speedboats Rothstein had built specially for that purpose. The Coast Guard had patrols supposed to prevent anyone from landing illegal liquor and other contraband on Long Islandbut Rothstein was able to establish very friendly relations with the Coast Guard. He already had bribed local officials because of his ownership of a plush gambling casino on Long Island. Rothstein was even able to arrange for Coast Guard personnel to unload his speedboats onto the fleet of waiting trucks. Then a police motorcycle escort convoyed the whisky to Long Island City where Rothstein had rented a warehouse. But during the eleventh trip, Rothstein was informed that a new commander had been stationed at the Coast Guard headquarters, and this officer was planning to seize the ship. Rothstein made radio contact with his ship and ordered the captain to change course on the high seas and head for Cuba. When the ship landed there, an agent for Charles Stoneham, Havana race-track and casino operator, picked up the cargo at cost. Rothstein informed Wexler and Greenberg that the voyage had not been profitable, but did not tell them that Stoneham was Rothstein's secret partner in Cuba. Actually, when the whisky was smuggled into the U. S. from Cuba, Rothstein made a greater profit than normal. These facts were not disclosed until after Rothstein's death, although a court case in 1923 revealed the hidden relations Rothstein had with Stoneham in Wall Street swindling schemes. This was also Rothstein's last direct involvement in smuggling liquor during Prohibition. Since he couldn't maintain a monopoly over liquor-smuggling, he preferred from this time on to simply bankroll the smuggling liquor during Prohibition. Since he couldn't maintain a monopoly over liquor-smuggling, he preferred from this time on to simply bankroll the smuggling. When not mediating between the rival gangs, or acting as the gobetween with the politicians, Rothstein concentrated on rackets he could personally control. LANSKY AND NIXON IN CUBA Nixon enters the Cuban picture as early as 1940. His biographer, Earl Mazo, briefly reports in the following words that the young lawyer from Whittier found himself in faraway Cuba soon after his marriage to Pat Ryan in June 1940: "Mrs. Nixon continued to teach (at Whittier High School) after her marriage, and Nixon confided to a few intimates that he aimed sooner or later to get into a big-city law practice. He kept
[CTRL] [7] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[7]-- CHAPTER VII BLUEPRINT OF THE NEW DEAL HOFFMAN NICKERSON'S "THE AMERICAN RICH" Monopoly of every necessity of life and of national existence, and absolute dictatorship are the basic doctriness[sic] of the Rockefeller Empire. For this purpose the Rockefeller "philanthropies" have fostered Marxism as the shortest cut to dictatorship in a Democracy. The world-wide chain of dictatorships which they seek would not be complete without an American dictator-ship. In this idea of an American dictatorship, the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty fully concurs. It was quite natural that an alliance should be formed between them. So complete is the contempt of America's rulers for the moronic level of intelligence of its people that they sponsored the open publication of their program in the form of Hoffman Nickerson's book "The American Rich". It was published by Doubleday Doran Company at the time that Theodore Roosevelt Jr. was its president. It was a blueprint of the New Deal subse. quently adopted in the Roosevelt regime, published in 1930, three years before it was launched. Hoffman Nickerson was the prophet of the Empire and Dynasty whose counsel and blueprint was followed closely. The schemers of the New Deal left nothing to chance but prepared the flim-flam the nation well in advance, in this matter, as well as in others. Thus the Agricultural Allotment Plan was drawn up in 1932 by a Hindu, Svirinas Wagel, Barney Baruch's Hentz Company's economist, to appear to be a boon to the far. mers,whereas it was a made-to-order godsend for the speculators in commodities and designed to make their gambles "sure things". The theme of "The American Rich" is a familiar one: Democracy, the "Cult of Equality", is, always has been, and always will be a failure, it relates. It must be eliminated under the pretense of improving it. The objective to be sought and attained by finesse, is Medieval feudalism and serfdom a masterful upper class dominating, the rest of the population reduced to slavery. And at the head there must be a king. That is the form of government the United States must have if it is to have a perfect government. It is to the interest of the group that can be called perpetually rich, because they can always dip their hands into the pockets of the people through the Treasury, to see to it that the United States attains a perfect, feudal monarchic government. To accomplish this the rich must organize amongst themselves to fight a common cause and pick their agent, who will be made to appear to desert and betray his class. They must then undertake by sly undercover methods to "divide to rule". The people must be dealt with not as Americans, but as minorities set at each other's throats, Labor vs Capital, Black vs White, Catholic vs Protes. tant, Christian vs Jew, for example. Then the selected agent must. be made to appear the champion of all causes, the indispensable composer of differences, while from behind the scenes he must never cease to foment. This agent then can assume readily the role of popu. lar leader and be elected President. Once in office, everything must be done to keep him there by repeated reelections. The government must be converted into a huge propaganda agency and perverter of popular thought. He must cater to the mob. But all. the while he must discredit and break down the checks on monarchic power of the President incorporated in the Constitution-the Supreme Court and Congress. But in the process he must be made to appear to seek an improvement on democracy. The gullible, moronic public must never suspect that he seeks to wipe out democracy"The absurd Cult of Equality". Once elected, the President must be continually reelected. The opposing candidate must merely be a straw man selected by the same group, to be knocked down and defeated. The people must be deceived into believing that they are exercising the democratic right to vote, while they have been robbed of the right of choice, i. e. the right to vote, by restriction of nominations; by the same group, to men subservient to them. When the President will have been reelected often enough, he will have had an opportunity to appoint to the Supreme Court all the justices, who will do his bidding. The Supreme Court, packed thus or otherwise, will have ceased to be a check on the monarchic power of the President, as required by the Constitution. Instead it will have become a prostituted agency serving the President and the invisible powers behind him. The problem of eliminating the power of Congress, of effecting "the twilight of legislature", Nickerson points out, is a bit more complicated but it must be done. " . . . they (legislatures) must be abolished or their bases and functions changed"
[CTRL] [8] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[8]-- CHAPTER VIII FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the pathetic puppet of the conspirators scheming the destruction of democracy and the establishment of an American monarchy. For the role for which he was picked, he had every qualification. F.D.R. was a direct scion of both the Roosevelt and Delano clans. On the Roosevelt side, he was descended from Claas Martenszen van Rosenvelt (or Rosenfeld) descendants of proselytized Sephardic Jews who had settled in Holland and later migrated to New Amsterdam in 1649. Claas, his son, was father of Johannes, the direct ancestor of Theodore Roosevelt, and of Jacobus, the direct ancestor of F. D. R. Jacobus Roosevelt married one of the most affluent and picturesque woman of the time, Catherina Hardenbroeck. According to tradition, she was the hardest drinking, hardest cussing, hardest fighting woman who ever sailed before her own mast as skipper in the rum, molasses, slave and smuggling trade. Isaac, her son, was the man whose invitation to attend a wife's funeral, was rejected by George Washington because of a question of propriety. The intervening ancestors were German, Swedish, and principally English, so that the original Dutch strain is thoroughly diluted. Col. Theodore Roosevelt, 26th president was a fifth cousin. F. D. R.'s half-niece, Helen Rebecca Roosevelt married Theodore Douglas Robinson, son of Theodore Roosevelt's sister Corinne, the grandmother of Joseph and Stewart Alsop, the columnists. By direct line of descent-from Thomas Shepard and Anne Tyng, John Adams, second president, and John Quincy Adams, sixth, were sixth and seventh cousins. But the relationship of the two branches of the family have ben maintained in closer degree by intermar. riage. The marriage of Fred B. Adams to Ellen W. Delano, a first cousin of F.D.R. has been mentioned. Less directly, through intermarriage of the Van Deursens and the Van Burens, F.D.R.'s. great grandfather was a third cousin of Martin Van Buren, eighth presi. dent. On the Delano side F. D. R. was more or less remotely related to George Washington, James Madison, 4th president, General William Henry Harrison, 9th president, General Zachary Taylor, 12th president, Andrew Johnson, 17th president, General Ulysses S. Grant, 18th president, General Benjamin Harrison, 23rd president and William Howard Taft, 27th president. As has been stated, President Grant was F.D.R.'s closest relative among the presidents. It has been noted also that on the Delano side, F. D. R. proudly traces his ancestry to the King of England, Henry II, and through the Astors, by marriage, to George VI. The numerous inter. marriages with European nobility have been mentioned. The royal background and ancestry were calculated to engender ambitions and fire the aspirations of a Pretender to an American throne; and the Dynasty's influence has made it a possibility. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the son of fifty-two year old James Roosevelt, vice-president of the Delaware and Hudson Railroad, director of several other corporations and retired country squire, and Sara Delano, twenty-six year old daughter of Warren Delano, merchant and clipper ship operator in the China trade, who made a sizeable fortune in opium smuggling. This was his father's second marriage. By the first marriage F. D. R. had a half-brother, James Roosevelt Roosevelt, a banker and appointee to the diplomatic corps by Grover Cleveland, a friend of his father. It is amusing to note that this brother has been kept a dark secret by the New Dealers because it would not be compatible with the picture of F. D. R. "throwing the money lenders out of the temple". James Roosevelt Roosevelt's first wife was Helen Schermer. horn Astor, daughter of the society leader, Mrs. William B. Astor and aunt of Vincent Astor. Sara Delano Roosevelt, dominating mother, did not send her boy to school to mix with schoolmates but kept him home under the tutelage first of French and German governesses, and then of tutors until he was fourteen Almost every year he was taken to Europe for several months. He attended public school at Nauheim two years, studying map reading and military topography. At an early age he conceived a great admiration for things German and became thoroughly imbued with Prussian militarism, and their lust for war on land, and especially, on sea. Summers were spent at Campobello. Under the influence of his mother, who was derived from a sea-faring family and whose cousin, according to Daniel W. Delano (Pic, July 8, 1941), had designed and built the first armor-clad, screw-driven warship, F. D. R.'s keenest interest, at the age of twelve, was warships and navies. At fourteen he was sent to school at Groton, which tries to be ever so
[CTRL] [9] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[9]-- CHAPTER IX THE DYNASTY'S NAVAL INTERESTS F. D. R.HEREDITARY NAVAL SECRETARY President Wilson was a quite synthetic creation of the Wall Street interests. The principal figure in build. ing him up and imposing him on the nation was his intimate friend and life-long associate Cleveland H. Dodge, a Princeton classmate of Wilson's and an in-law of the Rockefellers who together with Cyrus Hall Mc. Cormick, gave him the Princeton professorship, pri. vately supplemented his salary in conjunction with Percy R. Pyne (National City Bank), promoted him to Princeton's president, and through George Harvey, the Morgan-Ryan-Rockefeller agent and president of Harper's Publishing Company, secured him the governorship of New Jersey from Democratic boss, Senator James Smith, Jr. on payment to him of $75,000 by Dodge. (McCombs' "Making Wilson President", p. 20) In 1908, Harvey predicted in Harper's Weekly, on be. half of the Wall Street crowd, that Wilson would be elected Governor of New Jersey in 1910, and President in 1912. And the clique carried out their scheme on time and without a hitch, while making it appear to the public that Wilson actually opposed the poli. tical bosses who put through the deal that made him President. Dodge was not engaged in politics for his health. He was director of the National City Bank, a principal of the Phelps Dodge Copper Company, and heavily interested in the munition industryincluding Remington Arms Company, Winchester Arms Company and Union Metallic Cartridge Company. With such heavy interests at stake it was necessary that he be assured that his pal, Woodrow Wilson, would take orders with. out question and that Wilson assure his associates of it. This Wilson did in dinners arranged with representatives of the Rockefeller-Morgan crowd. Among them was a dinner for Wilson held at Beechwood, home of Frank A. Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank, which was attended by James Stillman and Wil. liam Rockefeller. (John Winkler, The First Billion, p. 210). Wilson agreed to permit Vanderlip to write the monetary views for his speeches. But Wilson would not take these views directly from Vanderlip because he did not want the public to realize that his pretended opposition to the financial interests and the trusts was a fraud. William G. McAdoo served as go-between. (Frank A. Vanderlip and Boyden Sparks, From FarmBoy to Financier, pp. 225-226). At the time of Wilson's inauguration, Dodge was under indictment in the Territory of New Mexico and Arizona for a land deal fraud. Following Wilson's inauguration, the case was promptly dismissed. Peace is not conducive to great profits in the muni. tions industries. Dodge was more than a little interested in a good sized war. Franklin Delano Roosevelt had campaigned for Wilson with the support of Dodge and his Rockefeller-Morgan allies. The hold that the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty had on Wilson is illustrated by his appointment of Frederic A. Delano, F. D. R.'s uncle, as vice-governor of the Federal Reserve Bank, a key position in national finance. On Wilson's election, nothing could have been more ,readily taken for granted than the appointment of Senator Franklin Delano Roosevelt, thirty-one years old, to the post of Assistant Secretary of the Navy, just as previously Theodore Roosevelt had been appointed to the post by McKinley. For naval armor, armaments and shipbuilding is one of the principal interests of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty. As Daniel W. Delano relates in "My Cousin In The White House" (Pic, July 8, 1941) it was a Delano, a cousin of F. D. R.'s who built the first armor-clad, screw-driven warship and for generations the family engaged in shipbuilding and seafaring. Under the influence of his mother, F. D. R. had passionately devoted himself to seafaring and specialized in a study of naval vessels and naval warfare to prepare him to carry on a family tradition. For in the past half century the job of Naval Secretary has become a hereditary prerogative of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty. In every administration which has not been headed by one of its members as Presi. dent, it has been represented by one or more Secretaryships in the Navy Department, to take care of their naval interests. A list of these is impressive. HEREDITARY NAVAL SECRETARIES OF ROOSEVELT-DELANO DYNASTY President Secretary Asst. Sec'y. McKinleyT. Roosevelt T. Roosevelt Taft Wilson F. D. Roosevelt Harding T. Roosevelt Jr. CoolidgeT. Roosevelt Jr. T. D. Douglas (T. R.'s nephew) Hoover Chas. Francis Adam F. D. Roosevelt Henry L. Roosevelt Nicholas Roosevelt Delano Delano
[CTRL] [10] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[10]-- CHAPTER X FOLLOWING IN COUSIN TEDDY'S FOOTSTEPS VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE From the days he had entered the political arena at thirty-one as State Senator, F. D. R. had been invested with the Dynastic leadership of the Hudson Valley Democrats handed down from cousin Martin Van Buren and with the full support of their political, commercial and industrial allies. He was pushed forward on every occasion. In 1914 the Dynasty placed F. D. R. in the primaries for United States Senator against Murphy's candidate, Wilson's Ambassador to Germany, James W. Gerard. As usual, it was a case of an upstate political machine against a down state political machine. In June 1918, Charles F. Murphy a henchman of Wilson's and F. D. R.'s sponsors, the Morgan-Ryan-Rockefeller crowd, offered the New York Democratic Gubernatorial nomination to Roosevelt. But the Acting Naval Secretary Roosevelt was enjoying himself too much with his bright new war. He condescendingly re. plied, according to Lindley, that in his opinion in time of war "when all questions of religion and party association were sunk" Alfred E. Smith would do as a candidate. (Franklin D. Roosevelt, p. 165). In 1920, however, instead of being imprisoned for the 999 laws which he frankly acknowledged he had broken, for exceeding his authority as Acting Naval Secretary, and for other malfeasance of which he was guilty, Franklin Delano Roosevelt continued to follow in Teddy's footsteps. The Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty thumbed their nose at law, Congress and the nation, and nominated their agent, F. D. R., Democratic vice presidential candidate. The Dynasty had made its peace and merged with the Rockefeller-Standard Oil crowd and the nomination went off without a hitch. James Cox, the presidential candidate, like Taft and Harding, were all Ohio henchmen of the RockefellerStandard Oil Ohio political machine. They selected Cox from the Democratic side of their machine to oppose Harding from its Republican side, in a framed fight. Cox published a chain of newspapers and was an associate of Charles G. Dawes, Comptroller of the Treasury under McKinley, in the Pure Oil Company. Cox and Roosevelt were both reliable pawns of the bipartisan Rockefeller Empire. But the sanctimonious corruption of Wilson had so far lost popular favor, that it was decided to let the Republican pawns win. This was signalized by an apparent defection of Harvey, the agent of Ryan and the Rockefeller-Morgan group, from the original Wilson backers who were now supporting Cox and Roosevelt. Harvey predicted Harding's victory with his usual precision that derived from the dominant role that he played for the Wall Street crowd in manipulating elections. In the course of the campaign some, newspapers pointed out that the scandalous corruption in Franklin Delano Roosevelt's conduct as Assistant Secretary of the Navy that had been exposed by the Congressional investigating committee and the contemptuous disregard of the law to which he had confessed, should bar him forever from holding public office. Roosevelt bluffed and threatened to bring suit for libel. But he never did sue. Following his defeat, Roosevelt was given, in January 1921, the job of Vice President in charge of the New York office of the Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland by an admirer, Van Lear Black, President of the Company and owner of the Baltimore Sun. He received a salary of $25,000 a year. This was the first salary that he had earned that was in anywise commensurate with his needs for supporting his family and maintaining a scale of living that had been much beyond his income. Roosevelt devoted only one or two hours, when he was in town, to the Fidelity job. This left him free to exploit his name in many different directions. He was eager for "easy money" and had no scruples whether he worked for it or not, or how be got it. He became a partner in the firm, Emmett, Marvin and Roosevelt in 1921, and in 1924, he formed a law firm with Basil O'Connor as partner. He devoted a little time in the afternoon to his law clients. He took the job of President of the American Construction Council, formed to whitewash the corruption in the building trades that had been exposed recently by a legislative investigation. But the ugliest of his money-making activties[sic] we're the malodorous stock deals to which he gave his name and in which he participated; and his Georgia Warm Springs business. pps.113-115 --[cont]-- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot
[CTRL] another conflict on the number dead
SIGHTINGS NATO Says Only One F-117 Down, No Casualties To Date - Greek Paper Says 81 NATO Dead From: www.serbia-info 4-24-99 Athens - A Greek newspaper said on Wednesday that NATO and the United States have lost 81 soldiers in the 28 days of their aggression on Yugoslavia. In an exclusive story, the Vradyni newspaper said that they were primarily pilots of planes and crews of helicopters downed by Yugoslav anti-aircraft defense systems. According to Vradyni, this number does not include losses among foreign mercenaries - warriors of Allah, recruited for the ethnic Albanian terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Yemen by the authors of the new world order. The paper said that the people in the west are deliberately being kept in the dark about the allied losses in NATO's operations in Yugoslavia, in order to avoid a panic and undesirable strong reactions and condemnation in the participating states. [Image] SIGHTINGS HOMEPAGE
[CTRL] A-albionic Back Issues Now Available On-Line
-Caveat Lector- A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date 04-25-99 ^^^ Back Issues of A-albionic's Journal, the Project, Available On-Line for "Subscribers Only: Subscribe for $9.95/year at: http://a-albionic.com/join.html Or Order Hard Copies at: http://www.alpinenterprises.com/webcart/a-albionic.htm --- - The Project: Vol. 8, No. 4; Vol. 9, No. 1-2: Winter-Spring-Summer 1991-92 by Lloyd Miller1992 In Print Newsletter, 28 pages, Order #00827 1991-92 Black Paranoia on the Rise: Conspiracy Theories Abound! Picking-up on the growing intensity prior to the LA riot of the Black anger springing from rapidly deteriorating conditions in Black ghettos due to the de-industrialization of America, the Project presciently surveyed and analyzed the spectrum of ruling class/conspiracy theories then circulating in the Afrocentric community: Was Egypt Black?, Is Global 2000 an Anti-Minority Conspiracy?, Is the Conspiracy Covertly White-racist (as assumed by Black conspiracy theorists) or Race Amalgamating (as assumed by the Right-wing)?, Why Did Western (White?) Civilization Conquer the World: Genetic Superiority Acquired in Harsh Northern Clime, Genetic Evil, Lucky Acquisition of Technology, Cultural Freedom and Access of Masses to Power of Reason, Science, and Technology,...?, Are Drugs a Plot to Destroy Minorities?, Was AIDS Developed to Destroy Blacks?, Did the Judeo-Masonic (white?) Conspiracy Steal Its Secret Knowledge from (black?) Egypt?, New World Order or New Dark Age of De-Development for All but Whites?, Does the White Collective and Collective Consciousness Descend from Albino Rejects from Black Africa?, Does Melanin Provide Blacks with Special Occult/Spiritual Sensitivity?, Does the Incredible White Political/Military Supremacy (less than 10% of world population) Spring from Furious Compensation for Sexual-Spiritual-Emotional-Physical Defects Relative to Blacks?...Reviews of the most popular conspiracy books circulating in the black community. The Project theory of the role of race in the New World Order conspiracy, originally under Cecil Rhodes and now...? Is Star Trek the archetype of New World Order racial policy? White racism or "Brave New World" Promethean, scientific culture in which Whites, Jews, and other "advanced" groups have the advantage? Afrocentric Blacks falling victim to "cultural Judo" strategy of the conspiracy? Who Is Ross Perot? His connection to the Royal Family! Computerization of the Project book catalog. Kennedy Assassination conspiracy books reviewed. --- The Project: Vol. 9, No. 3: Fall 1992 by Lloyd Miller1992 In Print Newsletter, 8 pages, Order #00828 A-albionic adjusts to hard times and the computer age. The new computerized permanent catalog system replaces haphazard offerings. Conspiracy research power dramatically increased with the availability of computerized data bases. Who Is Bill Clinton? Does the Project theory of his mentor, Carroll Quigley solve the mystery?? Parapolitics/USA Magazine: New Source of Support for Project theory of Carroll Quigley. The Carroll Quigley Bibliography: Now all Carroll Quigley's published writings are available from A-albionic. World Wilderness Conference organizer Maurice Strong lets the Cat Out of the Eco Bag? Project: Vol. 9, No. 4: Winter 1992-93 by Lloyd Miller1992 In-Print Newsletter, 12 pages, Order #00865 "New Age" Reign of Prince Charles Stillborn?..as a result of covert Vatican attacks? Upsurge of IRA violence, CIA-SMOM-MI5 forces release Prince Charles's "secret love tapes", Royal fortune to be taxed, suspicious fire at Windsor Castle followed by another at the seat of the Hapsburgs! Vatican inspired anti-Masonic campaign rages on in Britain. But, Judeo-Masonic triumph continues. Pope plots to end America's democratic capitalism through Mexican immigration and "primitivisation" of the American Church. Vatican-Islamic alliance continues. The Holy Alliance: How Reagan and the Pope Conspired to Assist Poland's Solidarity Movement and Hasten the Demise of Communism. Clinton: Where is he really from...Oxford or Georgetown! What does his early Catholic schooling and Georgetown experience with Carroll Quigley as a mentor portend? Unveiling the Virgin by D. Guide...Real magic of the Vatican as heir to the Pagan "Goddess Religion" of Rome. Recommended reading up-date. The Project: Volume 10, No. 1 2: Spring-Summer 1993 by Lloyd Miller1993 In Print Newsletter, 12 pages, Order #00995 Project Suspicions Confirmed: Royal Family Under Intense Vatican Attack! Complexity/Chaos Theory: Plot or Progress? Diana, the Cardinal and the Vatican! Diana, a Monk
[CTRL] David Icke interview
-Caveat Lector- David Icke was on Sightings Thursday for 2 hours and Saturday for the last hour. http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/24/1999 11:53:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I dunno. I've personally known a number of otherwise intelligent 20-nothings from good families who, besides playing DD and being into the usual gross gore flicks, have coldbloodedly skinned pets and nailed them to crosses or immolated them, immerse themselves in satanistic lore, and secrete large collections of REAL mutilation photos, and images of piles of decaying corpses from Auschwitz, beneath their beds, a la porn, as a quasi-sexual taboo TURN-ON source. And these were kids you'd LIKE -- in all other respects "normal" among our best and brightest ... What's "normal" anymore? Well not what you describe above. If that's our best and brightest, then let's hope Nostradamus' "great king" comes along and wipes us out before we breed any more of them. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkans: Blundering?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.globe.com/dailyglobe2/115/editorials/NATO_s_Balkan_blundersP.shtm l NATO's Balkan blunders By Globe Staff, 04/25/99 In war, as in love or the stock market, it is never too soon to review past mistakes. Many things about Washington's slide into the current war against Slobodan Milosevic's regime may remain murky, but since the war cannot end without changing the mind of the Serbian ruler or negotiating a peace agreement with him, there are practical reasons to ask how the Clinton administration came to misread the enemy's intentions so badly. That misreading was one of a sequence of errors leading to the forced expulsion of perhaps a million Albanian Kosovars and NATO's involvement in a bombing campaign that has altered the purpose of the Atlantic alliance, alienating the entire political class in Moscow. Britain's Defense Minister George Robertson, when asked if a failure of human intelligence explained NATO's failure to foresee what Milosevic would do under the bombing, told Globe writers and editors recently that in a tight little tyranny such as that in Belgrade, it is nearly impossible to discover the tyrant's plans. Yet George Tenet, director of the CIA, predicted in testimony to Congress in February that Milosevic would mount a major spring offensive, driving enormous numbers of refugees out of Kosovo. After all, Milosevic had backed similarly brutal and swift expulsions of Bosnian Muslims. More than 200,000 Serbs had been ethnically cleansed from the Krajina region of Croatia, and the practice of uprooting populations from their homes is hardly a new phenomenon in the history of the Balkans. Nonetheless, the intelligence assessments that reached President Clinton and his foreign policy advisers did not anticipate Milosevic's tactic of forcible expulsion, and there was no planning to prevent it. Similarly, no effort was made to prevent the Kosovo Liberation Army from giving Milosevic the provocations he seized upon to destroy Albanian villages. At key moments, KLA guerrilla fighters attacked and killed the Serbian special forces that were making life miserable for the 90 percent Albanian majority in Kosovo. The KLA's impulse to meet violence with violence may be understandable psychologically and emotionally. But if the United States and its allies wanted to keep the Albanians of Kosovo alive and in their homes and avoid having NATO drawn into a Balkan war, a firm ultimatum should have been delivered to the young KLA commanders. They should have been told that NATO would not continue trying to halt Serbian assaults in Kosovo unless the KLA accepted coordination with NATO. The KLA's bravado played into Milosevic's hands, giving him the justification he needed to rally his people behind the crimes against humanity he ordered in Kosovo. At Rambouillet, KLA delegates refused to sign a text that did not include some promise that independence would be possible for Kosovo after a three-year interim period. To accommodate this demand, NATO altered an agreement that was to be imposed on both sides without any changes. What had already been for Milosevic a humiliating imposition of NATO terms became an overt display of NATO's collaboration with the KLA guerrillas and their independence movement. This blunder was indefensible: The NATO countries do not support independence for Kosovo. Furthermore, their dealings with the KLA at Rambouillet had the effect of shunting aside the elected leader of the Kosovars' shadow government, Ibrahim Rugova, a pacifist who understood the great peril that awaited his people if they tried to match firepower with the Serb forces. After Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy, struck a deal last fall with Milosevic, NATO's 19 members enraged Milosevic by suspending rather than annulling a NATO threat to bomb Serbian forces, as he believed Holbrooke had promised. Of course, it is possible that even with much better coordination among the allies and much better intelligence about Serbian designs, the same catastrophe would have happened. But it is still important to learn from past mistakes. The Milosevic problem will not be solved unless the democracies comprehend his thuggish Communist mentality, the KLA hotheads are kept under control, and the Clinton administration learns that the most effective weapons and alliances are those that do not need to be used. This story ran on page C06 of the Boston Globe on 04/25/99. © Copyright 1999 Globe Newspaper Company. ~~~ From LA Times http://www.latimes.com/CNS_DAYS/990423/t36356.html Friday, April 23, 1999 Believe This: 'Credibility' Isn't the Issue Kosovo: Constant Washington drumbeat has led U.S. into too many questionable conflicts. By CHRISTOPHER LAYNE, BENJAMIN SCHWARZ A s the U.S.-led NATO air war against Serbia is in its fifth week, a growing number of voices--in Congress, the media and the foreign policy establishment--urge that the U.S. escalate the conflict by
[CTRL] Introduction to the WingMakers' Time Capsule
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.wingmakers.com/ A HREF="http://www.wingmakers.com/"WingMakers/A = from: http://www.wingmakers.com/index2.html A HREF="http://www.wingmakers.com/index2.html"WingMakers/A - Two opposing heads in profile frame the entrance to one of the most closely maintained secrets in human history. Introduction to the WingMakers' Time Capsule (Code-named Ancient Arrow Project) Nearly 27 years ago, mysterious artifacts were found that led to one of the most intriguing scientific and anthropological discoveries ever made. A secret, unacknowledged department of the NSA -- responsible for extraterrestrial contact and technology assimilation -- took the discovery into their laboratory for the purposes of their own agenda. This secret organization is known as the Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO) and has enjoyed complete anonymity until now. The discovery -- referred to by the ACIO as the Ancient Arrow project -- consisted of 23 chambers and connecting tunnels hollowed out deep within a huge, natural rock structure in a remote canyon of northern New Mexico. Inside this massive and well-hidden structure were incredible artifacts of a culture that was of indeterminate origins. In each of the 23 chambers were found wall paintings, various alien technologies, and strange, encoded hieroglyphs. By most appearances, the discovery was like a natural history museum from an alien race. It became known among the researchers as ETC or Extraterrestrial Time Capsule. Because of carbon-dating analyses, it was initially assumed that this time capsule was left behind by extraterrestrials that had visited earth in the 8th century AD. However, it wasn't until 1997 that the encoded language found within the site and its artifacts became accessible to the ACIO. It was then that it was determined that the time capsule was actually designed and built by a future version of humankind who were adept at interactive time travel. They called themselves, WingMakers. One of the scientists from the ACIO involved in developing the translation tables for the Ancient Arrow project, defected in December 1997, and has disclosed this secret project to a journalist named Anne. Anne is the author of this web site, and, under agreement with the aforementioned scientist, has placed these materials on the Internet for the purpose of exposing the WingMakers' time capsule to all who want to see, hear, and read its poignant and provocative message. There are hundreds of pages of philosophy, photographs, poetry, new physics, music, and artifacts inside this site, all derived from the WingMakers' time capsule. This discovery is being introduced in December 1998 to a worldwide audience through the Internet. Please treat these materials respectfully and view them with an open mind. It is highly recommended that you read the Interview Transcripts between Anne and the scientist before you judge the validity of this site and the materials therein. At the very least, read the Story. This will give you the background on this important discovery. Additional content will be added to this site as time permits. Anne is very reclusive at this time due to potential issues involving the ACIO and NSA, so please be patient for updates and new materials. There is no email, address, or phone number to contact anyone affiliated with the development of this site. The administrative and technical contacts for the domain, wingmakers.com, are not affiliated with this site or its content. Please respect their privacy. Thank you. (Note from Anne: For those of you visiting this site for the first time, please be patient with the disclosure I've made related to the WingMakers and their time capsule. This is not an easy story to grasp or to tell. You'll need to be both persistent and patient in your review of these materials. It's taken me over six months to come to terms with the WingMakers and what their story is really all about. It's an enormous story, unlike anything I had ever experienced before. But it's worth the time and effort to investigate it, and if you do, don't be surprised if things in your life take on an entirely new perspective. That's what these materials can enable if you spend the time with them. I hope that you do.) - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust
[CTRL] WingMakers: Project Briefing and Background
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.wingmakers.com/arrow/indexr.html A HREF="http://www.wingmakers.com/arrow/indexr.html"WingMakers/A - Project Briefing and Background In 1972, in a remote section of northern New Mexico, a group of hikers discovered an unusual artifact and pictographs within an obscure canyon. An archeologist from the University of New Mexico analyzed the artifact and searched the area where it was discovered, but found no signs that a prehistoric culture had established any permanent site in the canyon. It was presumed that a nomadic, Native American Indian tribe had occasionally used the canyon as a temporary settlement and had left behind a few artifacts of their presence as a consequence. There were, however, two very puzzling questions. All but one of the artifacts could be dated to the 8th century AD. The exception, known as the "compass" artifact, appeared to be an unusual form of technology, and was found among more typical artifacts like pottery and simple tools. The compass was covered in strange hieroglyphic symbols, some of which were also found on the pottery. Secondly, the pictographs that were found in the area had inexplicably appeared, and they were strikingly different than any of the other native petroglyphs or rock art found in the southwest or the entire continent for that matter. Because of these two anomalies, the artifacts and the entire project quickly became the property of the US government, or more specifically, the National Security Agency. It was decided that these artifacts might suggest a pre-historical, extraterrestrial presence on earth, and that the NSA had the appropriate agenda and wherewithal to initiate a full-scale, scientific expedition to determine the nature and significance of the site. The site was completely searched by a secret department of the NSA in 1973, but it only resulted in a few additional findings, and none of them were designated as technologies or evidence of an extraterrestrial presence. Additional pictographic symbols were found, but decoding them was a difficult and frustrating process. Experts were called in to help, but it was impossible to reach a consensus as to what the pictographs meant. As quickly as the project had risen as a priority investigation, it fell into the archives of the NSA under the code name, Ancient Arrow. Twenty-one years later, in 1994, a series of rockslides opened up a section of the Ancient Arrow site. The canyon was in a naturally obscure section of park land held by the state of New Mexico. After its discovery in 1972, it had been officially sanctioned off-limits to hikers and campers and was to be left in its natural state. From time-to-time, scientists -- sponsored by the NSA -- would visit the site hoping to uncover new evidence, but were invariably disappointed. Shortly after the rockslide occurrence, a small team of operatives from the NSA visited Ancient Arrow canyon to do some follow-up research. They discovered the rockslide had exposed an entrance to a hidden cavern that led deep within the canyon walls. At the back of this cavern, the research team discovered a well-hidden entrance into the interior of the canyon wall or rock structure of the Ancient Arrow site. There they found a system of tunnels and chambers that had been carved out from solid rock. There were a total of 23 chambers, all intricately connected to an interior corridor, and each chamber held a specific wall painting, series of pictographs, written hieroglyphs, and what seemed to be dormant, alien technologies. Once this entrance to the cavern was found, a report was immediately filed with the Director responsible for the Ancient Arrow project. The project was then formally brought under the jurisdiction of the Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO), which organized an inter-disciplinary research team to assess the exact nature of the site and attempt to discover additional artifacts or evidence of an extraterrestrial visitation. The ACIO is a secret or unacknowledged department of the NSA. It is headquartered in Virginia, but also have personnel in Belgium, India, and Indonesia. They are largely unknown, even to senior directors within the NSA. The ACIO is the lowest profile organization within the entire intelligence community. Its agenda is to research, assimilate, and replicate any technologies or discoveries of extraterrestrial origin. Its personnel consist mainly of scientists who are completely anonymous, yet are paid salaries in excess of $400,000 per year because of their security clearance and IQ. This secret organization not only possesses enormous brain power, but it is also in possession of technologies that are far in advance of any other research facility on the planet. They are, in a word, privileged. The artifacts found at the Ancient Arrow site were virtually incomprehensible to the research team. There were many mysteries. Why would an advanced culture leave their artifacts
Re: [CTRL] Resourceful Trends
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/25/1999 12:10:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The greatest threat to sustainable energy for the 21st century is the global warming scare. Climate-related pressure to artificially constrain use of fossil fuels is likely to subside in the short run as a result of political constraints and lose its "scientific" urging over the longer term. Yet an entrenched energy intelligentsia, career bureaucrats, revenue-seeking politicians, and some Kyoto-aligned corporations support an interventionist national energy strategy based on incorrect assumptions. A "reality check" of the increasing sustainability of conventional energy, and a better appreciation of the circumscribed role of backstop technologies, can reestablish the market momentum in energy policy and propel energy entrepreneurship for the new millennium. Anything the CATO Institute tells us just has to be "Right." Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HOFFMAN ON THE COLORADO MASSACRE Hoffman's website: http://www.hoffman-info.com
-Caveat Lector- A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date--Addendum HOFFMAN ON THE COLORADO MASSACRE Hoffman's website: http://www.hoffman-info.com THE HOFFMAN WIRE, April 22, 1999 Michael A. Hoffman II, Editor === The Mirror World of Columbine Media Bypass Talk-show host Pat Shannan recently had Michael A. Hoffman II as a guest on his radio program, discussing Hoffman's new work, "Profiling the FBI's Unabom Charade." With regard to the Littleton, Colorado high school massacre, Mr. Shannan posed the following question-via e-mail: Dear Michael I understand that you predicted this Colorado tragedy. I may want to do a story with the Satanic tie-in with these Sodomites and several previous school shootings. What evidence exists of a CIA and MK-Ultra influence? Thanks, Pat HOFFMAN REPLIES: There is no evidence of a CIA or MK-Ultra influence. Most programming cues are now in our mass media culture itself. Watch Wesley Snipes in the gruesome and despicable 1998 film, "Blade" and Keanu Reeves in the current "Matrix," both blazing away in their trench coats. The Trench Coat Mafia was made in Hollywood, in spite of these films' do-gooder facades, which only fool adults who want to be fooled. The dark and bloody symbolism is paramount. The medium is the message. The best and brightest kids will not take New World Order bureaucratic regulation. Our centralized mega-schools have become immense factories not only of anti-white indoctrination, but of micro-management of young people's lives, preparing them for more of the same in the adult world. Public school students have little if any understanding of their hereditary, Common Law and Constitutional rights. They are increasingly herded like assembly-line automatons. The elite among them intuitively revolt. Once our people as a whole would have rebelled. It was a common pastime of the English people to hurl rocks at the royal carriage during the reign of George I (1714-1727). Bill Clinton would have been routinely stoned and spat upon by our ancestors. Unfortunately, disaffected youth today turn toward the Hegelian fake alternative: System-certified "rebels," the System's manufactured image of Hitler, System-distributed videos and films--most of which have implanted behavior cues for these elite kids to emulate and create the kind of mayhem, murder and suicide the System needs to build its police state. American forces are presently terror-bombing the Serbian people for "peace," and Americans have butchered 37 million unborn babies on the altar of convenience, in abortions. President Clinton rapes and abuses women like cattle, perjures himself and remains the beloved leader of the soft-spoken liberal humanists and feminists. America has become a pathological culture of violence against the innocent while a jaded populace of movie-goers and TV spectators are mesmerized by ever more deadening hyper-violence on the screen. The message of Oliver Stone's much maligned movie, "Natural Born Killers" (NBK), one of the few Hollywood films to critique and lampoon the culture of death, was that, in the face of killings like those in Colorado, the suposedly "shocked and saddened" TV networks gleefully market and sell the violence at a profit, just like they sell tampons and toilet paper. I discuss this phenomenon at length in my book, "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare." Stone's NBK pointed out that the source of the violence is America's culture and the media that drives it. NBK concludes with a song by Leonard Cohen attacking perverted sex and abortion. I am not an Oliver Stone fan, but in this rare instance, he hit the media where it hurts. For this reason his film is deliberately stigmatized and falsified as the evil paradigm for future killers. The racist/Hitler angle: one of the members of the Colorado Trench Coat Mafia was a Hispanic girl named Alejandra who the media have now nicknamed Alex in order to conceal her ethnicity. As one of the Littleton killers' friends noted, these boys were equal-opportunity haters--they hated everyone and mostly they hated their fellow white students who comprised the majority of their victims. The killers even spared a Jewish student, Aaron Cohn. Hitler's birthday was April 20 but these kids--if indeed they were seeking to pay perverse tribute to Hitler with their carnage--had no idea who Hitler was. They are simply taking the Jewish media image of Hitler which is obsessively broadcast and published on a weekly basis, and embracing it as their Hitler. In other words, Hitler for them is a symbol of Nietzschean power and defiance, beyond good and evil, beyond compromise and it is to that image that they may have attached themselves. The "racism" angle is largely manufactured by the media, who would like to pass restrictive gun laws as well as "hate" laws on the backs of these student cadavers. There are Hitler cults among Mexicans, among Arabs, Africans and American Blacks and many other
[CTRL] FW: a couple of really good articles....
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Dan Syes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Troy Griggs [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eric Quarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: a couple of really good articles Date: Sun, Apr 25, 1999, 1:21 PM Heads Up A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia April 25, 1999 #132 by: Doug Fiedor E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright © 1998 by Doug Fiedor, all rights reserved This text may be copied and distributed freely but only in its entirety, and with no changes Previous Editions at: http://www.uhuh.com/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm and http://mmc.cns.net/headsup.html Table of Contents CHILDREN, RULES AND GUNS AMERICA'S NAT'L DEFENSE EMERGENCY OUR NATIONAL SECURITY DEBACLE THE CO- PRESIDENCY DEBACLE CHILDREN, RULES AND GUNS My father kept his in the bedroom closet. My grandfather said he didn't need one, but when I had to crack his safe because he forgot the combination, I found two old ones in there. My uncle kept his on top of the chest of drawers in the bedroom. As a child, all of my friends had essentially the same experiences. In my 14th summer, Elvis made the charts with "Heartbreak Hotel." I had a little jingle in my pocket from my paper route, mowing grass and caddying for the rich folks down at the fancy golf course. Because, you see, I wanted one, too. So I worked and saved for it. Well, there came a day back that summer when I had the $25 I needed, so I peddled my bicycle the seven miles over to the closest Wards store. And therein, I purchased my first one: A brand new bolt-action, single shot 22 caliber rifle. "Don't load that thing around here," the salesman admonished as he rapped a sales receipt around the barrel and bagged my 300 rounds of "High Power" ammunition. That was sold in the basement of the large department store. Picture a lanky 14 year old boy walking through a department store today carrying a rifle and a bag of ammunition. That would cause a bit of attention today. Back then, no one cared. Nor did anyone say anything as I held the rifle across the handlebars of my bike while I peddled home. It wasn't that everyone knew me (few did) and had no fear of me shooting them, it was that kids did not shoot at people. Period. No exceptions. There were no problems like that back then. We lived within the city limits of a major city, but on the very last street of that city. Within a five minute walk was a large woods. Therefore, most of the guys in the neighborhood had guns and it was rather common to see them carried around. There were two rules for us kids that were not often violated: No loaded guns within the city limits. And, point it at someone and you loose it. The last rule was important because, back then, any adult could smack any kid upside the head and take their gun away for inappropriate use. It happened sometimes, too. Lots of guns were around that neighborhood, but no person ever shot at anyone. Not even once. Yet, in high school, many of us were chided relentlessly by our "peers." That's part of growing up. I certainly got my share, because there was much about me to kid about. Four eyes and fumble fingers come to mind. Lanky and dumb Pollock were part of it, too. But even with that, there were unstated rules among us kids. Say something nasty about someone's, family or religion and there will be a fight. Ditto for not fighting "fair" by ganging up on someone or picking on someone smaller. That's how it was back when Elvis was starting to become "king" and Fats Domino was selling records by the many millions. We knew that people were all different and that we did not have to like everyone. But we also were taught that we were not to bother people, that we were to respect their freedom and leave them alone -- as long as they did the same for us. There also came a time that summer when a group of us were stopped by a police officer while walking down my street at 11:30 p.m. We had shotguns, 22s and there were even a couple revolvers in the group. The officer asked normal police officer questions: Where do you live? Where are you going? Why are you out this late? Do your parents know you are out this late? However, there was not one question about the guns. We were sent home. We were going home anyway, so simply replied "yes sir," and continued on our way. No identification was necessary. We didn't have any, anyway. No one did, back then, unless they drove a car. Nor did the officer bother to write down our names. We lived in the neighborhood, he didn't. Still, we were required to do as we were
[CTRL] Albania, then Serbia (and a little China to taste)
-Caveat Lector-
After researching my recollection for the specificity of facts about
"Albania", I recalled that Albania {to/with whom the Kosovars are aligned}
was (one of) the only European Communist nations that was wholly aligned
with China. H ... and you notice how "Britain" {formerly the owner of
HongKong [and a variety of other currently unstable places], key player in
the 'Opium Wars'} keeps popping up as an influence in all the areas in which
we have committed military resources? AER
From www.albania.co.uk
begin excerpt -- excerpted to present 20th century history of Albania
Independent Albania.
Creating the new state.
Shortly after the defeat of Turkey by the Balkan allies, a conference of
ambassadors of the Great Powers (Britain, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary,
France, and Italy) convened in London in December 1912 to settle the
outstanding issues raised by the conflict. With support given to the
Albanians by Austria-Hungary and Italy, the conference agreed to create an
independent state of Albania. But, in drawing the borders of the new state,
owing to strong pressure from Albania's neighbours, the Great Powers largely
ignored demographic realities and ceded the vast region of Kosovo to Serbia,
while, in the south, Greece was given the greater part of Çamria, a part of
the old region of Epirus centred on the Thamis River. Many observers doubted
whether the new state would be viable with about one-half of Albanian lands
and population left outside its borders, especially since these lands were
the most productive in food grains and livestock. On the other hand, a small
community of about 35,000 ethnic Greeks was included within Albania's
borders. (However, Greece, which counted all Albanians of the Orthodox
faith--20 percent of the population--as Greeks, claimed that the number of
ethnic Greeks was considerably larger.) Thereafter, Kosovo and the Çamria
remained troublesome issues in Albanian-Greek and Albanian-Yugoslav
relations.
The Great Powers also appointed a German prince, Wilhelm zu Wied, as ruler
of Albania. Wilhelm arrived in Albania in March 1914, but his unfamiliarity
with Albania and its problems, compounded by complications arising from the
outbreak of World War I, led him to depart from Albania six months later.
The war plunged the country into a new crisis, as the armies of
Austria-Hungary, France, Italy, Greece, Montenegro, and Serbia invaded and
occupied it. Left without any political leadership or authority, the country
was in chaos, and its very fate hung in the balance. At the Paris Peace
Conference after the war, the extinction of Albania was averted largely
through the efforts of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, who vetoed a plan by
Britain, France, and Italy to partition Albania among its neighbours.
A national congress, held in Lushnje in January 1920, laid the foundations
of a new government. In December of that year Albania, this time with the
help of Britain, gained admission to the League of Nations, thereby winning
for the first time international recognition as a sovereign nation and
state.
Bishop Noli and King Zog.
At the start of the 1920s, Albanian society was divided by two apparently
irreconcilable forces. One, made up mainly of deeply conservative landowning
beys and tribal bajraktars who were tied to the Ottoman and feudal past, was
led by Ahmed Bey Zogu, a chieftain from the Mat region of north-central
Albania. The other, made up of liberal intellectuals, democratic
politicians, and progressive merchants who looked to the West and wanted to
modernize and Westernize Albania, was led by Fan S. Noli, an
American-educated bishop of the Orthodox church. In the event, this
East-West polarization of Albanian society was of such magnitude and
complexity that neither leader could master and overcome it.
In the unusually open and free political, social, and cultural climate that
prevailed in Albania between 1920 and 1924, the liberal forces gathered
strength, and, by mid-1924, a popular revolt forced Zogu to flee to
Yugoslavia. Installed as prime minister of the new government in June 1924,
Noli set out to build a Western-style democracy in Albania, and toward that
end he announced a radical program of land reform and modernization. But his
vacillation in carrying out the program, coupled with a depleted state
treasury and a failure to obtain international recognition for his
revolutionary, left-of-centre government, quickly alienated most of Noli's
supporters, and six months later he was overthrown by an armed assault led
by Zogu and aided by Yugoslavia.
Zogu began his 14-year reign in Albania--first as president (1925-28), then
as King Zog I (1928-39)--in a country rife with political and social
instability. Greatly in need of foreign aid and credit in order to stabilize
the country, Zog signed a number of accords with Italy. These provided
transitory financial relief to Albania, but they effected no basic change in
its economy, especially under the
[CTRL] Crack The CIA Event
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Jack Michon [EMAIL PROTECTED] FLORENCE NORMANDIE APRIL 29, 1999 A NEW ERA OF UNITY PEACE JUSTICE Mobilize at Bethel AME Church (79th Western) at 4:00 PM and MARCH to Florence Normandie *Crack The CIA - Sue The CIA Join The Lawsuit *Demand!! A New Fair Trial For Mumia Abu Jamal *Amend Racist 3 Strikes Law Provide Solutions that Build People, not Prisons The National Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression (323) 232-8316 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (213)427-8519 SIDE 2 DID YOU KNOW ?! From 1982 through 1995, the CIA had a secret agreement with the Department of Justice exempting all reporting of drug trafficking by employees and agents of the CIA. On March 1st., 1999, a Class Action lawsuit was filed against the CIA and the Department of Justice (DoJ) alleging that the ClA's failure to report allegations of drug crimes along with the DoJ's acquiescence to this non-reporting, interfered with law enforcement's efforts to thwart the importation of crack cocaine into our communities. This means the flow of crack cocaine by major drug dealers was sanctioned by our government. We did not receive adequate law enforcement protection and were consequently pelted with the crack epidemic and all it implies - addiction, death, crack babies, increased crime, higher taxes, exhaustion of social services, and destruction of businesses! If you believe you were harmed by the CIA allowing cocaine to be brought into our community, we will help you, as a CLAIMENT, to fill out the TORT CLAIM FORM and ATTACHMENT. The named Claiments and their Attorneys control the suits. They belong to the people and no one else! The National Alliance Against Racist Political Repression. at P.O. Box 88808, Los Angeles, CA 90009 (213) 427-8519 (310) 837-6684 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton's(outrageous) Balkan Refugee Secret*HudsonFoodsTyson quid pro quo?
-Caveat Lector- More Klintoon corruption: Carl Limbacher April 23, 1999 Vice President Al Gore announced on Wednesday that the U.S. would welcome up to 20,000 Kosovar refugees to the American mainland, scuttling an earlier plan for emergency resettlement at Guantanamo Bay. The administration claimed that the Guantanamo option was ditched after the displaced Kosovars rejected the idea of being relocated so far from their homeland. Yet neither Gore nor anyone else explained why the equally distant American mainland was geographically more acceptable. What the Vice President and the reporters who covered his refugee announcement failed to mention is this: the 20,000 Albanian Kosovars would be just the latest Balkan influx to hit American shores since the U.S. became embroiled in that European conflict. In fact, since the mid-90's, America has resettled over 80,000 displaced persons from the region, mainly Bosnian Muslims, primarily to the American mid-west. Moreover, America's largest meat processing company, which just happens to have a curious link to Clinton-friendly Tyson Foods, has done very well by the deluge of hardworking Balkan refugees willing to take their dangerous non-union jobs. A case in point: The small town of Waterloo, Iowa, population 65,000, has been overwhelmed since 1995 with resettled Bosnians, many of whom find their first work at the local meat processing plant. Until recently Bosnian immigrants made up nearly a third of the 2,000 strong workforce at Iowa Beef Processors, Inc.'s Waterloo plant. Over the last few years Waterloo has taken in about 6,000 Bosnians, nearly 10% of the town's entire population. The new immigrants are recruited by IBP for rough and tumble meatpacking jobs at below union wages. The influx of Bosnians to Iowa has made the state the only one in the nation with its own refugee bureau. In fact, the U.S. meat-packing industry has a history of recruiting workers on-site in Yugoslavia going back to the 1920's; though, thanks to America's recent Bosnia entanglement, IBP generally has to look no further than Chicago for eager refugee labor. IBP became dominant in it's industry after successfully challenging major competitors like Hormel and Armour; companies which generally offered better paying unionized work to American citizens. Before IBP hit the jackpot with the new Bosnian labor pool, the company actively recruited Mexican and Vietnamese workers. And what about IBP's Clinton-Tyson connection? The link is through Hudson Foods. In August 1997 Arkansas' Hudson Foods was pretty much run out of business after the Clinton Dept. of Agriculture determined that e-coli contamination of its ground beef had sickened 16 people in Colorado. Though no one died, within days the USDA ordered millions of pounds of beef recalled. The alarm caused Hudson's major beef buyer Burger King to cancel its contract. Meat industry executives were stunned at the USDA's heavy-handed tactics. Hudson was primarily a chicken processing operation that had branched out into beef and pork, with plants outside Arkansas like the one where the e-coli problem was discovered. And Tyson Foods, notorious as a longtime Clinton backer with a history of winning favorable treatment from his state and federal administrations, had long been interested in acquiring Hudson. But Hudson was never interested in selling out until the Clinton USDA struck. Then the Tyson deal became an offer Hudson couldn't refuse. Still, Tyson didn't want Hudson's beef processing plant, the one where the USDA first found the e-coli contamination. For that another buyer had to be located. That buyer? Iowa Beef Processors, the same company which made out so handsomely when Bill Clinton's Balkan refugees began streaming into America. Small world. http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/4/23/71801 Crooked politicians, illegal aliens, a country in moral decay . . . all of that and more made Steve Vaus mad. So mad that he decided to write a song. The song has become a rallying cry for "patriots" from coast to coast. It is probably the most popular recording on talk radio. Listen and you'll understand why. The music video which was prominently featured on The Nashville Network and Country Music Television is available at Steve Vaus' web site.Crooked politicians, illegal aliens, a country in moral decay . . . all of that and more made Steve Vaus mad. So mad that he decided to write a song. The song has become a rallying cry for "patriots" from coast to coast. It is probably the most popular recording on talk radio. Listen and you'll understand why. The music video which was prominently featured on The Nashville Network and Country Music Television is available at Steve Vaus' web site. http://www.stevevaus.com/ Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined:
[CTRL] Y2K The Middle Path
-Caveat Lector-
The Middle Path
There are Choices Besides
"Pollyanna" and "Doomsday"
THE DEBATE OVER THE YEAR 2000 PROBLEM has deteriorated into a sharp split
between those who believe it will have a world-changing impact and those who
believe it will be a non-event. Much of the discussion of Y2K consists of
heated arguments and name-calling between members of the two camps, loosely
defined as the "doomsday" crowd and the "pollyannas."
THIS HAS LED many to believe that they must choose sides and decide who is
right. We believe this is a false choice, and the best course in approaching
Y2K lies in defining a middle path between the two camps, one that takes the
issue seriously without lapsing into behavior unsupported by the facts or the
Bible. Sorting out such an approach is no easy matter.
BUT AT THIS MOMENT of confusion and conflict, I believe we are running out of
easy options. It is important that the people of Christ be both rational and
proactive, remaining faithful to the Gospel and its guidance about gossip and
future events, while stepping forward to lead the community with a ministry
of reassurance and readiness.
THE DISPUTE ABOUT Y2K, which has been raging in Internet newsgroups for
several years, has now flared up in the Christian community. This in turn has
become front-page news for the national media with the Wall Street Journal's
page one profile of Christian Computing magazine editor Steve Hewitt and his
ongoing effort to convice believers that Y2K will be no more than a "bump in
the road."
HEWITT'S CRUSADE is itself a reaction to a group of Christian-themed websites
that warn that Jan. 1, 2000 may bring TEOTWAWKI ("The End of The World As We
Know It"). The "Christian survivalist" story has become a staple of Y2K
coverage, but has left a skewed impression of what the church is doing. My
experience with reporters calling about Christians and Y2K suggests many were
looking to craft an attention-getting story featuring "end of the world
extremists" motivated by religious belief. Some reporters made the effort to
locate more moderate faith-based preparedness efforts and tell the larger
story; many others did not.
WE'VE COMMENTED ON THE NEED to retain credibility in our Christian message in
Prophecy And Perspective. We share some of Hewitt's concerns, but fear that
he is leading an anti-Y2K backlash that is itself deeply problematic. The
effort to discredit "doomsayers" may allow many Christians to ignore or
dismiss the year 2000 issue, which would be a mistake.
ONE DIFFICULTY WITH THE Y2K DEBATE is that it has a tendency to cause people
of faith and integrity to become very self-selecting about what information
they believe and why. The alarmists interpret "bad" Y2K news as truth and
dismiss "good" news as lies. The skeptics do the opposite. Once someone has
begun making public statements and predictions about Y2K, their credibility
is on the line, and it becomes harder for them to be TRULY unbiased in
evaluating new information. In the age of media "spin," both camps are
spinning madly to convince the public of the rightness of their position.
THERE IS A MIDDLE PATH between the two positions, one that avoids
presumptions about precisely what God may be up to, but accepts that the
problem is real and demands a response from the Christian church.
FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS need to confront the likelihood of social disruption on
Jan. 1, 2000. We also must be careful not to be deceived and be caught up in
millennial fervor or survivalist sentiment that in many cases has no
connection to our faith.
BELIEVERS MUST REVIEW the best available information and decide for
themselves how to proceed. Because of the complexity of the Y2K issue and the
debate about how to respond, there are many people who want to follow someone
else's lead or be told what to do. Educate yourself, maintain an open mind,
and seek out the most credible information available. Then take
responsibility for your own beliefs about Y2K and how to prepare.
WHILE THERE'S NO DENYING that there are some extreme views about Y2K, our
experience suggests that most Christians who are preparing are level-headed
people responding out of a sense of stewardship and obligation to their
families, congregations and communities, in the best tradition of Christian
ministry.
IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, inaction invites anxiety and worry, and readiness
provides reassurance. The most effective way to avoid panic is to help people
develop a comfort level that allows them to be live confidently no matter
what Y2K may bring. Making prudent preparations - including having some
supplies of food, water and cash - does not make one a nut.
MANY Y2K "DEBUNKERS," in the Christian community and elsewhere, are
comfortable spending thousands of dollars each year to insure themselves
against death, fire, floods and auto accidents that may never happen, yet
will declare that it's outlandish to take even modest steps to prepare for
Y2K - which is a real
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] military-industrial-media complex media manipulation
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:17:19 -0700 From: Norman Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: For Whom the Media Bell Tolls : : FOR WHOM THE MEDIA BELL TOLLS By Norman Solomon / Creators Syndicate For several weeks now, the suffering of refugees from Kosovo has filled our TV screens. Empathy seems to motivate much of the public support for the ceaseless bombing of Yugoslavia. Fortunately, Americans can be stirred by moral outrage. Unfortunately, that outrage has been manipulated by a constellation of forces that could be described as a military-industrial-media complex. Central to U.S. news coverage is a paradigm as old as the macabre art of propaganda itself. Routinely, media reports make a huge distinction -- sharp yet cloaked -- between worthy and unworthy victims. Policy-driven from the White House, the coverage emphasizes some suffering and downplays or ignores other suffering. While American television lenses focus on the anguish of Albanian refugees and the carnage at a high school in Colorado, less worthy victims remain out of media sight and out of public mind. In East Timor -- occupied for a quarter-century now by the U.S.-backed Indonesian government -- more than 1,000 paramilitary thugs, actively abetted by Indonesia's army and police, went on a murder spree targeting pro-democracy activists in mid-April. On a single day, confirmed accounts put the number of dead at more than a dozen. In the atmosphere of the U.S. mass media, this was no big deal. The victims were not worthy. During this decade -- seen through the media window on the world tinted red, white and blue -- the Kurdish people slaughtered inside Iraq by the Baghdad government have been worthy victims. In contrast, viewed through that same media window, the Kurdish people slaughtered inside Turkey by the Ankara government (a member of NATO) have been unworthy victims: deserving scant coverage or outcry. In the wake of the Colorado school tragedy, President Clinton said that the nation's prayers went out to the victims and their loved ones. But, of course, he offered no prayers for victims and loved ones in connection with the incessant bombing of Yugoslavia. The president declared with a straight face: "We do know that we must do more to reach out to our children and teach them to express their anger and to resolve their conflicts with words, not weapons." Mainstream American journalists were far too circumspect to point out that such pieties were being uttered by a leader who has championed the deadly use of many weapons by the United States and other NATO countries. The high-school shootings occurred while NATO warplanes were in the midst of the most intense bombardment of Yugoslavia yet -- with 603 "missions" reported in a 24-hour period. Civilians under those bombs were mere blips on our media screens. Ever since the bombing began a month ago, the Clinton administration has been committed to continuing -- and trying to justify -- that military assault. No official wants to admit that the results of bombing have been absolutely opposite of the proclaimed aims. In a candid moment, a media spokesperson in Washington or Brussels may yet echo an infamous claim made for U.S. military actions in Vietnam three decades ago: Perhaps we'll have to destroy Kosovo in order to save it. As disastrous as the NATO assault has proven to be -- measured against its initial announced purposes -- the human catastrophe experienced by Albanian refugees has been tremendously important in marshaling support for this war from Americans. There is much talk about our moral obligation to do something. The fact that U.S. actions have gravely worsened the situation is presumably of minor importance. The greatest lies are commonly told by inference and emphasis -- by the unacknowledged chasm between repetition and evasion, between victims deemed worthy and unworthy. A truth told to the virtual exclusion of another truth can become, simultaneously, a truth put to use for distortion and manipulation. Such selectivity cheapens compassion and turns it into the coin of propaganda. _ Norman Solomon's new book is "The Habits of Highly Deceptive Media." ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], list moderator
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Jerry Black's Update on ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/25/99 12:13:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And when you and those like you who hold the same beliefs finally do that, than we will all benefit because we can then admit the reality and then DO SOMETHING to stop or change it. And I pray that you and those like you do and do so sooner rather than later because then we as a race will be better off when that happens. Well, I have advocated doing something about it. I have said in my response that we should concentrate on eliminating the known phenomenon and then we can see the UFO's for what they really are. If they prove out to be "alien", whether from near or far, otherdimensional or otherwise then fine and dandy, but if we eliminate the known cases of governmental craft and abduction what do we really have left? Can you answer that? Let's tackle the problem not constantly jibe each other about which ones are which since we can't do that effectively anyway until we eliminate the known. Since the government has UFO's and they apparently have perpetrated abductions for nefarious ends THEN why postulate further UNTIL you have eliminated all of these events from the radar screen. Once again I am NOT denying the possibility that some of what is observed are in fact alien craft. Let's grasp the issue from the end we can grab not from the one that is in the dark. Of course, maybe I'm just an idiot like your condescending reply implied. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Except for the US UK, NATO Ambivalent
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In a message dated 4/25/99 3:40:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Of course, in actual practice, the US has ALWAYS been a mirror-image of the
greedy, conscienceless, subversive totalitarian system our citizens were
taught International Communism was.
The Party? We're always been, and still are, a "one-party" system TOO --
since both Democrats and Republicans have to be vetted by the "king-makers"
club formed by the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderbergers'
interlocking directorates. Beria? We
had J. Edgar Hoover, cut from the same cloth, just as effective as Party
"enforcer." A
mirror-image in every respect, just as was dramatized by Orwell in "1984."
And since the "fall of Communism," even the "booming" US economy has begun to
reflect cliche media-images of life in Russia, at least in our bigger cities
-- long lines everywhere for everything ("fast food" is slower than ordering
at a restaurant nowadays), half a dozen people crowded into every living
space (but nowadays they call these folks "roommates," and it takes at least
three people to afford the rent for a 2-bedroom apt), etc etc. Welcome to
Joe Stalin's "proletarian paradise" in the USSA ! LOL
Is there such a thing as Fascistic Capitalism? We have become that which we
supposedly fought against and derided as our "enemies". Exporting our
philosophy and Babylon system of Death around the world. And God forbid you
should not fall in line 'cause we WILL get you one way or the other, if it
ain't the IMF it will be "Bombs away!".
Teo1000
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Re: [CTRL] Albania, then Serbia (and a little China
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In a message dated 4/25/99 6:23:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After researching my recollection for the specificity of facts about
"Albania", I recalled that Albania {to/with whom the Kosovars are aligned}
was (one of) the only European Communist nations that was wholly aligned
with China. H ... and you notice how "Britain" {formerly the owner of
HongKong [and a variety of other currently unstable places], key player in
the 'Opium Wars'} keeps popping up as an influence in all the areas in which
we have committed military resources? AER
My GOD! The mind boggles at the Synchronicity of this information. I was
just discussing this VERY fact with a coworker today, and was wondering WHY
there was no mention of the fact that Albania was aligned with CHINA! Great
minds think alike, No?
Teo1000
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Re: [CTRL] Who Is Really to Blame?
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.17/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.17/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 17 /A - The Laissez Faire Times April 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 17 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Littleton Shootings Who Is Really to Blame? by Don Lobo Tiggre The One-Room Schoolhouse This is the current trend in American education, but it hasnt always been so. Consider the one-room schoolhouse of last century. Is it even imaginable that something like the Littleton shootings could have occurred in such an environment? No. And there are reasons for this. The first and foremost would be that parents back then did not expect the school teacher to teach their children to become responsible, healthy, moral adults. That was their job, and the teacher was there to teach letters and numbers (which he or she did with a success rate that would put many modern schools to shame). Another important reason is that the school was too small for any misunderstood outcasts to be neglected. The teacher would know much of the life history of each child, would know their parents, would understand their unique situations and challenges. Even if the teacher wasnt particularly sympathetic, he or she would at least be knowledgeable about every single child under his or her care. There were probably mal-adjusted outcasts in most one-room schoolhouses, just as there have always been outcastshow long ago did Hans Christian Andersen write "The Ugly Duckling"? But those unhappy souls would have a much better chance of getting the attention they needed back then than the misfits in todays massive indoctrination centers. To say that the increasing size of todays huge urban high schools is a contributing factor to school violence may seem to be making the same mistake that people who blame inanimate objects (like guns) make. But who designs these giant, politically-correct reprogramming factories? There are people, individual policymakers, who have been pushing things in this direction. Who are they, and where can we write them letters of protest? It would be useful to find out and let them know that we will hold them accountable. I recently spoke on the phone with the former superintendent of our school district in Michigan. In the sixties he had done research on the relative quality of education in the district while pursuing a doctorate (I think at U of M). He compared the IQ information with tests indicating achievement to establish a difference between potential learning ability and results. He then rated the differences between the various schools in the district expecting to show that the larger schools with modern libraries and facilities and more highly educated teachers would prove to have the least differential (i.e. performance met expectation). However, he found that the best performing school was a one room school house with eight grades taught by a teacher with only a two year certificate (soon to be closed). The second best was a two room school house (also soon to be closed). The poorest performance came from the largest and most modern school. He checked his figures in disbelief, but they were correct. He realized that the whole philosophy of bigger is better in education was unfounded. When he presented his data and findings to his professor he got a rude awakening. This was not the finding that was desired and his professor destroyed his data and he had to change to other research to obtain his doctorate. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Info available at following for virus with Monday payload date (26th). And yes, I checked the sites first before posting this. CNN Story http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9904/23/cihvirus.idg/ Norton's http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/kill_cih.html McAfee's http://208.228.230.120/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/spacefiller411.asp DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-56, Day 34, Update 1 (Apr. 26; 0:10AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-56, Day 34, Update 1 --- Apr. 26, 1999; 0:10AM EDT HEADLINES Novi Sad 1. Last Novi Sad Bridge Destroyed; Hungary to Let NATO Use Its Three Air Bases Italy 2. An Italian Soldier: Very Little Time Left; Maybe a Week? Naples 3. Italian Police Battle anti-NATO Protesters U.S. Midwest 4. Jewish Students Support NATO's Bombing of Serbia; An Anglo-American Student Fights Back Florida 5. Roundtable's Reaction to Independent's Story: What About Exposing the CFR Sins? Belgrade6. German Mothers Say No to NATO's War -- 1. Last Novi Sad Bridge Destroyed; Hungary to Let NATO Use Its Three Air Bases Novi Sad, Apr. 25 - This just in from a TiM source in Novi Sad: "After several attempts, they (NATO) have finally managed to completely destroy the last remaining bridge in Novi Sad. The attack started at 1:15AM (local time; 7:15AM EDT), and ended 30 minutes later." --- TiM Ed.: And now, "let the games begin!" (i.e., the NATO invasion from Hungary). After all, despite a general sentiment among the Hungarian population against NATO's war on Serbia which this writer encountered earlier this week, while traveling through Hungary, the Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Oban, acceded to Washington's request, and agreed to let NATO operate out of its three air bases. Many of the additional 400 airplanes, which Gen. Wesley Clark has requested from the Pentagon, are expected to fly out of the Hungarian air bases in Taszar, Kecskemet and Papa. Meanwhile, there are some 300,000 ethnic Hungarians living in the northern Serbian province of Vojvodina who are also targets of NATO's wrath against civilians, just like their Serb neighbors. Many of them are freedom fighters who escaped to Yugoslavia following the unsuccessful 1956 Hungarian uprising against the Soviets. Having been welcomed with open arms in Yugoslavia (see a letter from a Hungarian refugee - Day 31, Update 2, Item 4, Apr. 23), wonder what they will think of the Hungarian prime minister's decision to help NATO wage war on them, too? -- 2. An Italian Soldier: Very Little Time Left; Maybe a Week? BELGRADE, Apr. 25 - TiM has just received a letter from an Italian soldier who warns that there is very little time left for a political solution to the Kosovo crises; "maybe a week," he says. Here is an excerpt from his correspondence: "Today, the Italian newspaper, 'Liberazione,' published the following note received from an informer in the Italian army in Macedonia: 'A gigantic military maneuver has been under way for 48 hours on the territory of Macedonia, up to the frontier with the Yugoslavia. The operational NATO HQ is situated in Krivolak (Macedonia). Another command center, only for U.S. troops, is in the (Macedonian) capital Skopje. Principal protagonists of the maneuver, beyond to the 'bersaglieri' of the of the (Italian) brigade 'Garibaldi,' is a German tank division - the best of Bonn's army. The Germans have 100 powerful "Leopard 2" (similar to U.S. heavy Abrams tanks)n and 200 armored vehicles. The Italian brigade has 60 mobile batteries of TOW optically-guided missiles. There are also two British tank brigades with activated missile heads. These forces, once the order arrives, have the possible assignment of attack on the Yugoslav troops in Kosovo that are facing the Italian "alpini" (alpine troops) along the Albanian border. The way to the forces coming from Macedonia should be opened by a well armed and trained KLA special detachment, which penetrated 48 hours ago into Kosovo, along the famous corridor number 10. --- TiM Ed.: TiM has no idea what that is, nor why it is "famous?" We suspect it may have to do with the Lepenac river valley entry into Kosovo from Macedonia. --- From Friday (Apr. 23), despite the persistently bad weather, all of Kosovo territory under Serb control has been subjected to a continuous "preparatory" aerial and missile bombardment . There is very little time (perhaps one week) for a "political" intervention. Otherwise it would go off the 'Plan X', of which I have given many details some weeks ago." --- TiM Ed.: Not to TiM, anyway. We are not aware to what our correspondent is referring here. --- "Otherwise, God save the Italian army, once more sent to battle without any preparation. This soldier swore to the Italian Constitution, art. 11, 'Italy repudiates war as an instrument to attack other peoples freedom and to resolve international disputes.' The traitors are in the government." --- TiM Ed.: As is
[CTRL] Balkans: Furtive Glances
-Caveat Lector- Vol. 15, No. 18 -- May 17, 1999 . . . . www.insightmag.com Flirting With KLA Terrorists By J. Michael Waller Support is building to arm the KLA to fight against the Serbs in Kosovo, though evidence suggests it is a drug-smuggling, leftist terrorist group with plans of conquest. anctions failed. Diplomacy failed. Even massive air attacks by nuclear-capable strategic bombers failed. As the Clinton administration's drive to force Yugoslavia to grant autonomy to Kosovar Albanians crumbled amid the bombed-out hulks of government buildings, bridges and factories, Washington seemed primed to try yet another weapon: waging a ground war by arming what a former U.S. special envoy to Kosovo called a "terrorist group." It's an option that, if implemented, will further complicate Operation Allied Force, will risk throwing a monkey wrench into U.S. counterterrorism and counternarcotics policy and could further complicate relations with NATO allies. . . . . With dashed hopes for the Yugoslavian regime's quick surrender, the administration and Congress are considering an initiative to build up a small guerrilla force, the Kosovo Liberation Army, or KLA, into an effective fighting machine. As Secretary of State Madeleine Albright openly flirts with the KLA, other officials say the United States wants closer relations with the group. Some Capitol Hill staff following Kosovo are asking if, despite NATO's open nonsupport, the United States already may be providing covert assistance to the KLA. . . . . Bipartisan initiatives in the House and Senate, meanwhile, openly would fund the arming and training of the KLA into a full-scale irregular army. Arming the KLA is attracting an unlikely coalition of Democratic and Republican lawmakers with ethnic Albanian constituencies; politicians squeamish about using U.S. and NATO ground forces but wanting some sort of on-the-ground military presence against Yugoslavian forces in Kosovo; a smattering of conservative armchair insurgency "experts" who invoke the Reagan Doctrine of supporting anticommunist resistance movements; and Marxist radicals who find the KLA's ideology compatible with their own. . . . . Among the most prominent politicians favoring this scheme are polar opposites, Republican presidential candidate Steve Forbes and House Minority Whip David Bonior of Michigan. While Forbes was hastening the collapse of the Soviet empire in the 1980s as head of the board supervising Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in the effort to undermine communist rule, critics say Bonior was so friendly to the comrades that he became a cheerleader for the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista regime in Nicaragua and a leading foe of democratic resistance there. . . . . On April 14, six congressmen led by Rep. Eliot Engel, a New York Democrat, introduced the Kosova Self-Defense Act to allocate $25 million to train and arm the KLA. (The name of the Yugoslavian province itself is in dispute. Kosovo is the Serbian-language name, while Albanians use the term Kosova.) "The KLA is on the ground in Kosova now and, with proper weapons, could defend innocent Kosovars against Serb predation," the hawkish Engel reasons. "When Serb forces do leave, the KLA can serve as a peacekeeping and police force until a government is organized. This would mean fewer NATO troops, including U.S. forces, would be needed in the area." Sponsors include Republican Mark Sanford of South Carolina and William Goodling of Pennsylvania, as well as Bonior. Sens. Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut Democrat, and Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, have prepared similar legislation, now under State Department review. . . . . Veteran Reagan Doctrine proponents who have studied the KLA think the proposal is a dangerous idea. "Some politicians have apparently confused the KLA with the Nicaraguan Contras or the Afghan mujahideen of the 1980s," says Michael Radu of the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia. In a memo circulating on Capitol Hill, Radu argues that arming the KLA "would display both American ignorance of the true nature of the KLA and despair at the failure of the NATO air strikes against Yugoslavia." . . . . Not only does the KLA stake territorial claims on other countries, including NATO ally Greece, but Insight's sources say it has roots in the Sigurimi secret police of Albania's late Stalinist dictator Enver Hoxha, who had designs on a Greater Albania carved from Greece and countries that made up Yugoslavia. "Some of its founders and leading cadres were associated with the Yugoslavian Communist secret police or even . . . Sigurimi," according to Radu. Even more disturbing are reports that the KLA has received military support from Iran and from fugitive Saudi terrorist financier Osama bin Laden, who is wanted for a spate of mass killings,
[CTRL] Eyes on the Isles
-Caveat Lector- I would suggest the Brits' politicians not make the same error as a leader of a central European country did midway through this century and forget geography and the scope of resources -- not to mention resolve -- the Americans can muster. Put differently, until they can demonstrate they can enter and win conflicts on their own -- without our assistance -- perhaps gold can be found in that thar silence. AER From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ISSUE 1430 Sunday 25 April 1999 Blair enlists Thatcher for advice on war By Tom Baldwin, Andrew Gilligan and David Wastell in Washington Oil blockade by allies 'could drag Russia into war' TONY BLAIR has called in Lady Thatcher to advise him on the Kosovo conflict and how to keep Nato united against Slobodan Milosevic. Her support is believed to have been a key factor in Mr Blair's hawkish stance on Kosovo at the Washington Nato summit this weekend. Lady Thatcher has discussed war strategy with the Prime Minister in a series of telephone calls, some lasting as long as 30 minutes, all of which were initiated by Downing Street. She emphasised the importance of Britain taking a lead and of "stiffening the spine" of the Americans, in a similar fashion to the moment in the Gulf war when she chided George Bush for going "wobbly". Mr Blair's official spokesman last night confirmed that there had been contact with Lady Thatcher, saying she had told the Prime Minister that it was "important to do the right thing". The employment of the Falklands War leader as an unofficial Downing Street adviser has been a feature of Mr Blair's premiership. He has previously expressed his admiration for her leadership on the world stage. Lady Thatcher was invited into Downing Street for one-on-one talks with Mr Blair within weeks of Labour's election victory in May 1997. She was also consulted in November of that year, shortly before the Government became involved in military action for the first time when it ordered an aircraft carrier to the Gulf. But Britain's campaign for the use of ground forces failed to win support as Nato leaders ducked substantive discussion of the question. The rebuff to Mr Blair came as fresh evidence emerged of deep divisions within the alliance, with President Clinton resisting demands for an immediate ground campaign. Britain will today fight to keep open the option of a ground invasion by unveiling plans for a multi-million-pound package of aid, including the offer of associate European Union and Nato membership, to frontline Balkan border states. The proposal is designed to ease the financial plight of Macedonia, the most likely launchpad for an invasion of Kosovo, which has been increasingly disenchanted by the operation as it is engulfed by refugees. News of Lady Thatcher's intervention came as another key figure gave his backing for the use of ground troops. Gen Wesley Clark, Nato's Supreme Allied Commander, has privately told diplomats that the conflict will not be won by air power alone. The remark, made at a gathering during the Nato summit, is a major reversal of Nato's position. It contradicts the public statements by Nato leaders this weekend that air power will still be enough to win. According to a North American diplomat at the meeting, Gen Clark said: "I can no longer guarantee that bombing will succeed in breaking the will of the regime." A diplomatic source corroborated the report. Gen Clark's statement shows the shift in Nato opinion towards ground forces. "We must start to give ourselves the option of a ground force," said an alliance politician. "It will take a long time to build one up: if we do not start now, we will find that we are not ready for a campaign until the winter, and that will be truly horrendous." Lady Thatcher has thrown her weight behind the deployment of ground troops, describing Milosevic as a "truly monstrous evil" who must be "totally defeated". Mr Blair echoed her comments on his US trip, in which he insisted that America should not be allowed to slip back into isolationism. "If we let an evil dictator range unchallenged, we will have to spill infinitely more blood and treasure to stop him," he said. Downing Street increased the pressure on Belgrade last night by claiming that there were growing signs of dissent inside the Milosevic regime. Asked how the Government's apparent assessment of Milosevic's vulnerability squared with reports in yesterday's US press that the Pentagon believed Nato was failing to win the war, Mr Blair's spokesman said: "My assessment is completely in accord with Gen Clark's." AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + +
[CTRL] China: Silent Might
-Caveat Lector- From Irish Times Monday, April 26, 1999 Silent Beijing protest biggest in many years From Conor O'Clery, in Beijing In the biggest, and certainly one of the oddest, protests seen in Beijing in a decade, some 15,000 members of a religious cult besieged the Chinese leadership compound near Tiananmen Square yesterday to demand fair treatment from the authorities. The demonstrators carried no banners or placards, they made no speeches, and their protest, which lasted for 13 hours, was held in almost total silence. From 9 a.m. until 10 p.m. the multitude simply stood or sat tightly packed six-to eight deep for a distance of 2 km around the north and west sides of the compound, sometimes reading from little blue books of spiritual guidance. At one point when the setting sun made a fleeting appearance, they turned towards it and applauded. "Did you see it?" a middle-aged man asked excitedly. The people who dared to bring their protest to the centre of power in China were members of the Fa Lun Gong sect, which claims 100 million members and whose US based leader, Li Hongzhi (47), advocates physical and spiritual healing through oriental exercise like qigong. Leaders of the sect demanded to see the Chinese Premier, Mr Zhu Rongji, to protest against attacks on the cult in the official media, and the arrests of several members after a sit-in last week in the nearby city of Tianjin. Police closed the roads around the compound and just before darkness handed out sheets of paper with instructions to disperse. This cited a ruling from the Complaints Bureau of the State Council which said members of the cult had never been banned from practising their qigong activities and that while they were allowed to air their opinions they should not congregate around the Zhongnanhai government compound. "The action is wrong because it is already affecting the normal life of the people," it said. "So you must respect the laws and leave the area." Beijing's public security bureau, which has tightened security in Beijing in the run-up to the 10th anniversary of the bloody 1989 crackdown on student protesters on June 4th, was clearly caught off guard by the demonstrators, who arrived in groups from all over China before dawn. Late last night they left in long, silent columns, heading for the main railway station, after police finally ordered them to end their protest. Adding to the mystery, members of the sect, simple people of all age groups but mostly middle-aged, largely declined to give interviews to reporters, as if under orders. One man in his 50s in a black vest said, however, they wanted to be recognised as a legal entity. A middle-aged woman chimed in: "We want to have good health in mind and body; this will make us better people and will help our families and society and cut down on state medical costs." Conventional religious organisations and cults have found a mass following in China amid rapid social change in recent years. Li Hongzhi, the leader of the Fa Lun Gong sect, is a faith healer who maintains that homosexuality, rock and roll, television and drugs are signs of the end of the world. "Your diseases will be eliminated directly by me," writes Li Hongzhi, in one of his five "sacred texts". He criticises modern science and, quoting from Buddhist law, claims that the power of healing comes from the Chinese martial art form of qigong whose practitioners tap into an inner energy, and is centred on karma, by which people's fate in the next life is determined by their deeds in this one. AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial
[CTRL] Adams' Appeal
-Caveat Lector- From Irish Times Monday, April 26, 1999 Adams calls for an end to NATO action By Andy Pollak Sinn Féin president Mr Gerry Adams has called for an end to NATO's bombing of Serbia. He told a conference on Irish neutrality and European security on Saturday that "determined efforts for a peaceful negotiated settlement, under the auspices of the United Nations should be redoubled". Labour Party president Mr Proinsias De Rossa called the bombing of the Serbian broadcasting service's headquarters in Belgrade a "war crime". He told the conference in Dublin, which was organised by the Peace and Neutrality Alliance, that if Serb troops had occupied and killed civilians in a Kosovo TV station, it would rightly be regarded as a war crime. Mr Adams said President Milosevic was "a gross violator of hu man rights". The TV pictures of tens of thousands of Kosovan refugees gave an insight "into the havoc he has presided over". How ever, NATO had supported and armed violators such as Indonesia, "still committing genocide in East Timor", and Turkey, which "ruthlessly suppresses the Kurds". He added: "NATO has broken a whole range of international laws in waging war against Yugoslavia. Moreover, NATO is in breach of the Geneva Convention, which makes it illegal to go to war without making an official declaration to that effect. NATO is in breach of its own charter, which requires it to act in accordance with the UN, and it has violated the UN charter by assaulting a sovereign state without a UN mandate. "Instead of passive support for NATO's stand," Mr Adams said, "Ireland should be leading the efforts outside NATO, in the EU and in the UN, to secure a diplomatic solution." If the Government "proceeds towards Partnership for Peace, they will be clearly in breach of their promise to the electorate and of the mandate by which Fianna Fáil gained power." Northern nationalists were "living in a state dominated by a foreign power, Britain, occupied by British troops, who are also NATO troops. We therefore have had many years of first-hand experience of how NATO troops behave, of how NATO turns a blind eye to the military excesses of one of its member-states, but also how NATO seeks to use our situation as a testing ground of new weapons and surveillance technology, counter-insurgency techniques and crowd-control methods." Mr De Rossa said as well as accepting the largesse of the EU, Ireland had to accept responsibility for participating in its common foreign, security and defence policies. It was important that any common European security and defence policy should be "founded on democratic decision-making". If Ireland joined the Partnership for Peace, there would be no "democratic control", since it would be linked to NATO, of which Ireland was unlikely to become a member. Asked about differences between himself and Labour Party leader Mr Ruairí Quinn on the bombing of Yugoslavia, Mr De Rossa said they both wanted the bombing to stop; the differences were over when that should happen and whether it should have started in the first place. He later pointed to an agreed plan the two leaders announced 10 days ago which included a call for a 72-hour pause in the bombing to allow the UN and Russia to persuade Mr Milosevic to come to the negotiating table. Mr Alan Dukes TD said Ireland joining the Partnership for Peace would not mean abandoning neutrality. It would mean joining an organisation where the best practices in peacekeeping were being effectively developed. AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us
[CTRL] Arabiana / Russiana
-Caveat Lector- From ArabicNews.Com Mubarak, Russian FM discuss situation in Kosovo, Egypt sends aid Egypt, Politics, 4/24/99 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak met today with Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov who is visiting in Cairo within the framework of his Middle East tour. Meanwhile, the Egyptian foreign minister Amr Moussa said that the meeting held between president Mubarak and Ivanov tackled the developments of situations in Kosovo and Middle East peace process, beside the situation in Iraq and the Russian-Egyptian bilateral ties. Concerning the Russian initiative to end the war in Kosovo, Moussa said that his talks with FM Ivanov tackled the situation and the diplomatic efforts to solve this crisis. He said that they have agreed upon the necessity that the US should play a role in this concerns. Moussa also expressed the grave practices against Kosovo people. Meanwhile, two planes carrying 70 tonnes of relief aid to the ethnic Albanians of Kosovo are to leave Cairo tomorrow. Meanwhile, the secretary general of Egyptian Red Crescent Society, Dr. Mohammed Gabr, said the first plane carrying 30 tonnes of relief aid is set up by the Egyptian Red Crescent at the authorization of Mrs. Suzanne Mubarak, to coordinate between the international union of the Red Crescent and Red Cross, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the ministries of supply and foreign affairs and the Cabinet. He added that the second plane, carrying 40 tonnes of medicines, is presented by the Ministry of Heath, the physicians and pharmaceutical syndicate, in cooperation with Health Minister Ismael Salam, heading a medical delegation to present medical services and perform surgeries on Kosovar Albanian patients. Ivanov says Moscow defensive weapons to Damascus don't threaten neighbors Regional, Politics, 4/24/99 Egyptian Foreign Minister Amr Moussa said that the meeting held between president Mubarak and Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov tackled the development of the situations in Kosovo and the Middle East peace process, as well as the situation in Iraq and Russian - Egyptian bilateral ties. Concerning the question of the declarations stated in Israel that Israel stopped Russia from exporting technology to some Middle East countries and whether Russia feels anxiety toward the current situation of the United Nations and intends to make initiatives to restore the greatness of the world organization, Ivanov said Israel has expressed its anxiety toward exporting Russian weapons to Syria, adding that there are claims of Russian cooperation with Iran in the field of weapons. He added that Syrian cooperation on military supplies will be carried out according to Russia's international commitments and in a specified form through bilateral relations only, and that Russian weapons exports to Syria are defensive weapons that don not constitute any danger to Syria's neighbors. Concerning Iranian - Russian cooperation, Ivanov said his country has previously and in a formal way announced that there is no cooperation in the field of missile technology. Concerning the UN's affairs, he said Russia seeks always to confirm the importance of the UN's role, and it will pursue its endeavors in the future with all its capabilities. Russia calls for resuming peace talks with Israeli from point at which they broke off Regional, Politics, 4/23/99 Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov on Thursday called upon Israel to resume peace talks with Syria from the point at which they broke off three years ago. In a joint peace conference with Israeli Foreign Minister Ariel Sharon, Ivanov stressed that Russia's position is to resume talks between Syria and Israel from the point where they stopped. Ivanov is currently making a tour of the region which will cover Syria, Egypt, and the Palestinian self-rule areas. Upon his arrival in Israel on Thursday, Ivanov toured on board a helicopter in the airspace of the occupied West Bank. He was accompanied by Sharon. An Israeli official said through his tour of the West Bank, Sharon intended to acquaint the Russian minister with what Israel calls the "security zones" which it believes it has to keep in the context of a final agreement with the Palestinians. Sharon and Prime Minister Netanyahu believe almost half of the territories of the occupied West Bank should remain under the Israeli control. Ivanov is scheduled to meet today with Netanyahu before he heads for Ramallah to meet with Palestinian President Yasser Arafat. Copyright © 1998 Arabic News .com . All Rights Reserved. Send comments suggestions to the webmaster. ArabicNews.com is a trade mark of ArabicNews.com AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
