Re: Debian GNU/Linux in the German press!

1997-07-03 Thread Dave Cinege
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT), Dale Scheetz wrote:

 Ah.  But someone somewhere is offering them for $5 right?  I know I didn't
 imagine that.  Still even at $50 Debian is a bargain.  I've cut a few
 official CD sets to give to various people I work with and the response
 has been quite favorable.
 
Yes, there is a $5.00 1.3.0 Official CD from LSL. These are volume pressed
from the original $50.00 golds. 

FWIW normal stamped CD's run about $1 a peice with the jewel case and 2 
color silk in low (few hundred) quanity. CDR's are about $5. (And take 0.5
hours per disc to cut at X2 )

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Re: choosing a linux distribution

1997-07-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Chuma Agbodike wrote:

  Actually, Debian requires zero disks for installation. It can be
  installed directly from a bootable cd-rom (if you have a machine
  capable of booting from CD).

 What makes a machine bootable from CD-ROM drive ? Or is there
 something I can do to make my DC-ROM drive bootable?

if your motherboard's bios supports booting from CD then you can boot
from a cd drive. if not, then you can't.

if it's really important to you, then you'll have to upgrade your
motherboard (or upgrade the bios if you have a flash upgradeable one -
unlikely, most of those can already boot from CD drives)

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Re: Dselect replacement?

1997-07-03 Thread Britton

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Linux dist. research wrote:

 I saw a reference to a possible future replacement for dselect.  Does
 anyone know about this?

The project is calle diety.  It is intended to fix the percieved problems
and inconviences the plauge dselect.  Personnaly I like dselect, and I
hope things don't change too much.

 
 Chip
 
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Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread bigt
Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
installing debian 1.3.

I have only had one responce on my posted questions... and am no
farther ahead than I was a week ago.  

Whats my problem???  Well ok, let's see, the installation of the base
system
works correctly. I can boot my Debian GNU/Linux system from
harddisk, and I have a network connection.

Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.

I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.

I do get other error messages trying to install other files using the
dpkg -i method.  I seem to get all sorts of dependency errors.  So I
try to install the files that the system says it depends on and end up
back at the can't map /lib/libc5 error.  I also get some kind of error
that says that the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 file is missing.  I look for it
and it points to a file in lib/libc.so.5.  

At this point I am confused on whats right and whats wrong.  After
installing this thing  7 times now and always running up into the same
error every single install, I don't know where to turn.  The IRC are
useless and I haven't gotten but one responce on this list.  

Does anyone know of anyone I can call for help???  If I bought a CD
would it make a differnece?   Am I talking to brick wall???


Tony Koehn
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Re: epson Stylus 600

1997-07-03 Thread Britton

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I m a new user of linux and I have a question
 
 I bought an Epson Stylus 600 and I have now idea how to print with it
 I would like to print both ascii and postscript files.

What you need is Ghostscript, a software level postscript emmulator.  The
version widely available for Linux is accualy second hand from a
commercial company (name?) generous (and smart) enough to routinely donate
their old versions to the public.  I have heard that this version has some
trouble supporting the new breed of Epson printers, which is too bad.  I
don't know off hand who is working on our version of gs.  This might be a
case where going with the commercial version would be worthwhile.  It is
presumably more compatible with modern printers.


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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Pavel Galynin
hello,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
 installing debian 1.3.

i'm in europe, and you probably don't want to make an international
call. neither would i be of much assistance here.

 slakware is looking real nice right about now
 This email originated from ourtownusa.com.

as to this, i understand your frustration. slackware is not an
alternative unless you're an experienced user. debian told you it
wouldnt ork, while slackware would install everything and let you find
out yourself. redhat is a little better, but its rpm is buggy and
dependencies and conflicts act really weird. so, stick with good ole'
debian, as soon as i install my system, ill be able to help others ;))

paul


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POP Clients

1997-07-03 Thread Tim
Besides Netscape, does anyone know of a program for X, possibly similar
to Windoze Eudora, that can be used as a POP3 client? The reason I ask
is this: Though I can get mail using popclient and read it, my ISP
requires that my domain resolve to send mail. Since they've got us all
on dynamic PPP, tjobrien.traveller.com does not resolve, and I can't
send mail using their server, or any other site that requires the
computer connecting to the SMTP server to resolve. 

Any idea whether a program like this exists, or have I finally found a
Debian app that I need to write? 

Thanks, 
Tim 


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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
 message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.

I am sorry as I really don't know how to solve your problem but the one
strange thing I have noticed is that the package you are trying to install
is libc5_5.4.33-3.deb but then dpkg turns around and says the older
version 4.23-6 is installed. The reason I mention this is that I saw
another post that stated that 4.23-4 is in unstable whereas 4.33-3 is in
stable. There may be a temporary mix up on the archive site that may cause
the problem although I don't know if this would cause it. Anyway,
hopefully fuelling the discussion will get other more knowledgable users
involved. Cheers. 

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Re: X-capable mail reader

1997-07-03 Thread Frank Barknecht
Stephen Zander hat gesagt: // Stephen Zander wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 
 Has anyone got any suggestions for an X-capable threaded
 mail reader that I can use with mailagent or deliver.
 
 Currently I'm using xmh and it's just not cutting the
 200+ emails I see a day.  I like the MH features, I
 just need multiple inboxes, which it doesn't do :(

  Well, let start praising our favorite mail readers. Mine is not pine but
  Mutt. It threads, has nice coloring, let's you select and save debian
  lists in special folders, reads every kind of mailbox format, mbox, mh
  and what else lives out there.

  It handles MIME, can PGP ...

  Well, the only thing: It is text based. If you really want clickable
  buttons and such, you have to look somewhere else.
  There exists a mutt-debian package in unstable, but it depends on libc6
  which I don't have installed yet, so I compiled my own version. No
  problems here, and it never crashed on me.
  
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Re: rxvt ignores x resource settings?

1997-07-03 Thread Curt Howland

I just wish I could get X working at all. I upgraded
to 3.3-3, and the log-in screen comes up on vty7, 
but when I log in olvwm crashes and core dumps.

Oh well I'll keep reading commentaries and trying
things. No, I didn't use XF86Seetup, I used dselect.
I intend to try XF86Setup next time I'm at the machine.
(one of the problems of debugging X from work to the
machine at home...)

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Re: Joliet CDFS

1997-07-03 Thread Evan Thomas
Niklas Hoglund wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Anyone know if there is anyway to get linux to support the Joliet cdfs
 (insted of iso9660)???
 

You can get patches for specific kernels from
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/joliet.html

It worked fine for me on 2.0.29. I've since upgraded the kernel but
haven't tried getting it to work again.

Presumably at some point it will be integrated into the normal kernel
distributions.


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Re: help with exmh

1997-07-03 Thread Clint Adams
 Now that I've decided pine was quite sufficient for me, does anyone know
 how to convert my inbox back? I couldn't see how from the man pages or the
 FAQ - and just concatenating the files in ~/Mail didn't work. 

Investigate the MH (or nmh) command packf.


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Re: X-capable mail reader

1997-07-03 Thread Clint Adams

 Currently I'm using xmh and it's just not cutting the
 200+ emails I see a day.  I like the MH features, I
 just need multiple inboxes, which it doesn't do :(

EXMH is much better.  The latest unstable version is 2.0delta.  I don't know
if it's in /debian/project/experimental yet.  I would recommend it over
1.6.9.


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Installing Debian and PCMCIA

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Phillips

I want to install debian on a laptop.  The Debian installation guide has a
section called Configure Device Drivers.  In it it says: 

There is a menu selection for PCMCIA device drivers, but you need not use
it.  Once your system is installed, you can install the pcmcia-cs package.

But I want to use the ftp install option and the laptop's ethernet card
is a PCMCIA one.  Does this mean I have to install the PCMCIA device 
driver?  If so, does it mean that later on I should deinstall this
driver in order to install the pcmcia-cs package?  At what stage is
the pcmcia-cs package installed - as part of base?

Thanks,


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Re: rxvt ignores x resource settings?

1997-07-03 Thread Stephen Zander
Colin R. Telmer wrote:
 Sorry to continue a long thread, but you have now peaked my curiousity -
 why is the point of rxvt to avoid xrdb? Is that part of the reason it uses
 less memory? Curiousity killed the cat... Cheers.

My understanding, which was supported by the man-page quote
elsewhere in this thread, is that rxvt reads resource *files*,
but doesn't coomunicate with the resource database (a major
memory suck)


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Re: netbios equiv. of ipxripd

1997-07-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 I've a Debian box configured (at least I think) as a server for 2
 subnets (it has 3 ether cards). The subnets are assigned reserved
 number (I've IP-masquerading working). Also, my DOS/Win3.x machines
 can access the Novell server transparently with ipxripd.

 Is there some similar daemon for netbios, so my win3.x machines can
 access a NT server in the backbone (connected with the 3rd card)?
 I can't also connect 2 machines on different subnets, because the
 netbios protocol isn't propagated to all cards.

 ---Win3.x-Win3.x-|
  | eth1   eth2
Linux/Samba Internet
  | eth0  |
 ---Win3.xWin3.x--|   |---NT server
  |
  |
  |--Novell servers
  |

first of all, i'd suggest (unless you really need your NT and Novell
servers to be accessible from the net) that you should put your servers
behind your linux firewall immediately, especially the NT server. There
are many well-known holes in NT which can be used to either gain access or
kill the machine. see http://ntsecurity.com/ and many other sites (do a
search on yahoo for NT security to get started) 

Rule of thumb: if it doesn't need to be directly on the net, hide it
behind your firewall. 

This may involve putting another ethernet card in your linux machine,
eth3, which has only Linux machine and your router, (e.g. isdn router
box if you have one).  If it's just a modem link, and/or the linux box is
your internet router then change the addresses on eth2 so that it is also
using a private (192.168, etc)  network. 


IMO, the only excuse for putting an NT box live on the internet is that it
is running a web server and has no other use, and no other data (including
login  passwords for other machines in the registry). Even then I think
that you'd be better off with a linux box as a web server - it'll run
faster, and be more capableapache is infinitely better than IIS.
There's nothing that an NT web server can do that a Linux machine can't do
faster, safer, and better. 


But to answer your question, you don't really need a routing daemon for
SMB. Just make sure that the LMHOSTS file contains the IP address of your
NT server and Win3.x clients or just setup the Linux machine as the browse
master (see man page and docs for nmbd).  Then configure the Win3 and NT
machines to use the Linux machine as WINS server. 

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X-capable mail reader

1997-07-03 Thread Stephen Zander

Has anyone got any suggestions for an X-capable threaded
mail reader that I can use with mailagent or deliver.

Currently I'm using xmh and it's just not cutting the
200+ emails I see a day.  I like the MH features, I
just need multiple inboxes, which it doesn't do :(


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Re: ipfwadm

1997-07-03 Thread Jim Pick

 I have recompiled 2.0.29 Kernel to enable IP forwarding and firewalling.
 When I try to configure ipfwadd it tells me:
 ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not available.
 Does somebody have a solution for this problem.

I'm not sure.  You can check to see if they are compiled into the
kernel you are currently running by looking at your /proc/net
directory.

Here's what I've got in my /proc/net directory on a system with
IP forwarding, firewalling, accounting, and masquerading...

boots:/proc/net# ls
alias_typesip_acctip_masq_approute  tcp
aliasesip_autofw  ip_masquerade  rt_cache   udp
arpip_forward ip_output  snmp   unix
devip_input   rawsockstat

Of course, there might be something else going on...

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: ipfwadm

1997-07-03 Thread Philippe Troin

On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 16:44:00 EDT Lalovic, Drazen 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I have recompiled 2.0.29 Kernel to enable IP forwarding and firewalling.
 When I try to configure ipfwadd it tells me:
 ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not available.
 Does somebody have a solution for this problem.

What's your kernel configuration file (.config under /usr/src/linux) ?
You probably have forgotten something...

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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Philippe Troin

[stuff about complete install failure with dselect/dpkg]

What version of the bootdisks do you have ?
You shouldn't need to upgrade libc5 after a fresh instal... You probably have 
something very wrong.
I'd suggest getting a new set of bootdisks and restarting from scratch.

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Re: Can dpkg Repair Damaged Packages?

1997-07-03 Thread Jim Pick

 Hi,
 
 A client had a terrible disk problem on their /usr partition resulting
 in a number of hosed files (e.g., /usr/include/ctype.h was now a
 HOWTO.)
 
 Is there a way to tell the system to check all files belonging to all
 packages and tell me which are damaged?  If it could then reinstall
 those packages that would be great.  I reinstalled all packages I
 noticed had corrupt files, but I'm sure I missed some.
 
 Such functionality would be useful.

Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a package called dpkgcert that really
helped me out - it examines every file in you system, and points out
which ones differ from ones supplied in packages.

Unfortunately, it needs a database of certificates that contain the 
per-file MD5 sums of all the packages (which I got from Klee).  I haven't 
heard from him for a while, so I don't know where you can get the 
certificates.

On a related note - I discovered that my disk corruption was happening
because I had LBA and 32-bit modes (or something like that) enabled
in my system BIOS.  Gradually, over time, files would get corrupted
like you mentioned.  After learning on debian-user that this causes 
problems for some people, I turned the options off, and I haven't
had any disk corruption since.  This should probably be a FAQ 
somewhere - but I don't understand it myself.

Cheers,

 - Jim




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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Paul McDermott
Phil is on the right track.  libc5... is a base package and gets 
installed during the base system.  the other thing you could try is to 
dpkg --help and take a look at the force and remove options.  try not to 
install base packages as much as possible. 

When installing debian you should look at the Packages file and map out 
a strategy on how you are going install the various packages.  If you 
have something wrong with libc5... this file is considered the most 
important file on the system.  If it is not working properly, you have 
serious problems.  Good luck!  I hope you still will you the debian 
distribution.  It is one if not the most user-friendly distributons on 
the earth.
Paul

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

 
 [stuff about complete install failure with dselect/dpkg]
 
 What version of the bootdisks do you have ?
 You shouldn't need to upgrade libc5 after a fresh instal... You probably have 
 something very wrong.
 I'd suggest getting a new set of bootdisks and restarting from scratch.
 
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Re: POP Clients

1997-07-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Tim wrote:

  I can't
 send mail using their server, or any other site that requires the
 computer connecting to the SMTP server to resolve. 

Why not send mail yourself?
Simply configure sendmail to masquerade as your ISP.  Then, your 
sendmail handles the out-going mail with a return address to
your ISP account.

(I'm sending this from my Linux box at home, which is pretending
to be my Linux box at home.  But the home PC will be connecting
to lists.debian.org to deliver to message to debian-user)
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Re: help with exmh

1997-07-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Clint Adams wrote:

  Now that I've decided pine was quite sufficient for me, does anyone know
  how to convert my inbox back? I couldn't see how from the man pages or the
  FAQ - and just concatenating the files in ~/Mail didn't work. 
 
 Investigate the MH (or nmh) command packf.

In psckf's man page:

BUGS
   Packf  doesn't  handle  the  old  UUCP-style mbox format
   (used by SendMail).  To pack messages  into  this  format,
   use  the  script /usr/lib/mh/packmbox.

This might apply here, but since I've never done it I'm not sure.
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Re: X-capable mail reader

1997-07-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Clint Adams wrote:

  Currently I'm using xmh and it's just not cutting the
  200+ emails I see a day.  I like the MH features, I
  just need multiple inboxes, which it doesn't do :(
 
 EXMH is much better.  The latest unstable version is 2.0delta.  I don't know
 if it's in /debian/project/experimental yet.  I would recommend it over
 1.6.9.

There's also Emacs using mh-e (and font-lock).  I personally think
that an editor is a natural place to be to do mail, which consists
mostly of editing text (and moving messages around, which Emacs does 
well).

As for multiple mailboxes, I *think* that's in the the range of MH's
extensive capabilities.  If not, use procmail to sort mail before MH ever
sees it!
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Re: Installing Debian and PCMCIA

1997-07-03 Thread Bob Clark
Mark Phillips wrote:
 
 I want to install debian on a laptop.  The Debian installation guide
 has a
 section called Configure Device Drivers.  In it it says:
 
 There is a menu selection for PCMCIA device drivers, but you need not
 use
 it.  Once your system is installed, you can install the pcmcia-cs
 package.
 
 But I want to use the ftp install option and the laptop's ethernet
 card
 is a PCMCIA one.  Does this mean I have to install the PCMCIA device
 driver?  If so, does it mean that later on I should deinstall this
 driver in order to install the pcmcia-cs package?  At what stage is
 the pcmcia-cs package installed - as part of base?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -
 Mark Phillips
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
 -
I installed debian on a Gateway Solo 2100 in February.  I remember that
I installed the base system from floppies and then grabbed pcmcia-cs and
pcmcia-modules and installed them.  In my case I used a pcmcia modem to
complete the install using the ftp method so I also loaded diald,
netbase, dnsutils, and bind.  I'm not sure if any of this stuff is
included the base install now, but when I was installing, I had to ftp
these packages, tar them to floppies and install them with dpkg -i.

Good Luck,
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Re: help with exmh

1997-07-03 Thread Clint Adams
Packf  doesn't  handle  the  old  UUCP-style mbox format
(used by SendMail).  To pack messages  into  this  format,
use  the  script /usr/lib/mh/packmbox.

IIRC, the nmh version does mbox by default instead of mmdf.


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Re: NFS problems with Debian server and Solaris client

1997-07-03 Thread Christian Leutloff
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm having problems getting Solaris 2.5.1 to use the Debian NFS
 server.  Read only file systems work fine.  On read-write file

we'll go the other way round in the near future ;-)

but Solaris uses a new nfs Version (3) instead of 2. Perhaps you can
deactivate the new nfs and only use the old one. Another thing is the
new CacheFS - perhaps it helps if you deacticate it.

Hope it helps
Christian

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Re: Debian over NFS

1997-07-03 Thread Christian Leutloff
Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   * A Debian server, with a large hard disk, with a fairly full install of
 Debian.
   * Multiple Debian client machines, with small hard disks (often 100 meg or
 less).  I'd like to mount, at minimum, /usr from the Debian server.
 /usr should be mounted over NFS in read-only mode.
 
 I'm working on a similar set up.  this is the first machine, and is
 supposed to become the server--though i'd like to keep it and make
 another one the server.  

the perfect solution is the nfsroot package. You can boot
*everything* from the server. Per client you need only some
configuration files on the server.

You may also want to have a look at

http://cuiwww.unige.ch/~mvuilleu/configsc1/config.html
Linux Remote-Boot mini-HOWTO: Configuring Remote-Boot Workstations
with Red-Hat Linux, DOS, Windows 3.1 and Windows 95

Bye
  Christian

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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Christian Leutloff
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A friend of mine wants to install Debian on his laptop.  He recently
 ordered the CDs and tried to install it using a CD drive attached to
 his parallel port.  He tells me that unfortunately linux didn't
 recognise the parallel port, or atleast, couldn't access his CD through
 it.  Any ideas?
 
 I'm sorry this information is a bit vague at the moment, but I haven't
 been able to have a personal look at it yet.  My friend is actually a
 senior member of the mathematics department of my university and has a
 fair degree of influence, so it would be good to have him become a Debian
 user.  However if he can't get Debian working soon, I suspect he will go
 for another distribution.

that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
CD-ROM 8-(

That's my problem too. It's possible to start linux form dos from the
CD, but afterwards you can't access the CD-ROM. The SCSI-HOWWO
mentioned that there will never be support for parallel port CD-ROMs.

I'll go over a parallel ZIP drive which works with linux - or have you
a better idea?? My problem is: How can I arrange Debian on a 100 MB
floppy to get no dependency errors?

Bye
  Christian

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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Phillips
On 2 Jul 1997, Christian Leutloff wrote:

 that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
 CD-ROM 8-(
 
 That's my problem too. It's possible to start linux form dos from the
 CD, but afterwards you can't access the CD-ROM. The SCSI-HOWWO
 mentioned that there will never be support for parallel port CD-ROMs.

I had a look at the SCSI-HOWTO and it seems to say that parallel port
CDs are not currently supported:

SCSI hosts that will not work :

  All parallel-SCSI adapters, Rancho SCSI boards, and Grass Roots SCSI
  boards.  BusLogic FlashPoint boards, such as the BT-930/932/950, are
  currently unsupported.

But it didn't put them in the category of SCSI hosts that will NEVER
work.  Doesn't this suggest that they may one day work?

Where did you read that there will never be support for them?

Anyway, thanks for your reply and tip about reading the SCSI-HOWTO.


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Re: rxvt ignores x resource settings?

1997-07-03 Thread Ed Donovan
Joey - 

Seems like you may've got your answer already, but I'd like to toss this
in: at some point, I don't now remember when, my rxvt stopped paying
attention to X resources written as RXvt*, but would recognize them
written as rxvt*, all lowercase.  I'm pretty sure it was a Debian rxvt
before and after, but I can't swear to it; I've built ones for
/usr/local/ once or twice.  I'd be curious to see if this made any
difference on your system.  Thanks -

(And, hey, while I'm at it, thanks for all your packages and pdmenu. :-)
I have, let's see, 9 packages installed on my machine, and also pdmenu
being used by many people on some not-yet-Debian machines.)

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 Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Joey Peter S Galbraith:
  Gee, sounds exactly like the debian version, which mentions
 just these  features in its changelog.
 
 rxvt latest is v2.21

Joey Debian version is 2.20. I don't see anything to fix my problem
Joey in the changelog for 2.21. (Another poster on this thread
Joey pointed ouyt the problem is that rxvt doesn't use standard X
Joey resources and parses the file directly.)
 
 My rule of bug fixing is to not bother fixing old versions, and
 to start with the latest version.  If you find and fix a bug,
 where does it go?  Debian only?  XFree?  Or at the real source
 where it belongs?

Joey If the debian maintainer fixed it, it would be merged upstream
Joey into the real source, of course (assumming the author
Joey accepeted the fix).


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Sound problems

1997-07-03 Thread Luka Pravica
Hi everybody,

I am using Debian since two months. Last week I decided to make use of my
Soundblaster and I downloaded and compiled Kernel 2.1.43. Everything went
fine until I tried it out. 

Some thing are working and some are not. I can use Xcdplayer or Xmixer. But
I can't use /dev/audio and /dev/dsp because they are always busy. No other
sound programs work too.

There are no errors shown (in boot message and /dev/sndstat), and I use the
same Soundblaster settings as in DOS.
I also checked files in /proc/ and there seems to be no IO, IRQ or DMA
conflicts.

Does anybody has a solution for this problem?


(Yes I have read FAQ's and Sound-HOWTO's but they couldn't help me.)



Bye,

Luka Pravica


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Re: Sound problems

1997-07-03 Thread Bob Clark
Luka Pravica wrote:
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 I am using Debian since two months. Last week I decided to make use of
 my
 Soundblaster and I downloaded and compiled Kernel 2.1.43. Everything
 went
 fine until I tried it out.
 
 Some thing are working and some are not. I can use Xcdplayer or
 Xmixer. But
 I can't use /dev/audio and /dev/dsp because they are always busy. No
 other
 sound programs work too.
 
 There are no errors shown (in boot message and /dev/sndstat), and I
 use the
 same Soundblaster settings as in DOS.
 I also checked files in /proc/ and there seems to be no IO, IRQ or DMA
 conflicts.
 
 Does anybody has a solution for this problem?
 
 (Yes I have read FAQ's and Sound-HOWTO's but they couldn't help me.)
 

If you have nas (network audio system) installed, try:

/etc/init.d/nas stop
and then see if /dev/audio and /dev/dsp are still busy.

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Re: Sound problems

1997-07-03 Thread Rob MacWilliams
 Hi everybody,
 
 I am using Debian since two months. Last week I decided to make use of my
 Soundblaster and I downloaded and compiled Kernel 2.1.43. Everything went
 fine until I tried it out. 
 
 Some thing are working and some are not. I can use Xcdplayer or Xmixer. But
 I can't use /dev/audio and /dev/dsp because they are always busy. No other
 sound programs work too.
 
 There are no errors shown (in boot message and /dev/sndstat), and I use the
 same Soundblaster settings as in DOS.
 I also checked files in /proc/ and there seems to be no IO, IRQ or DMA
 conflicts.

You might check the permissions on /dev/audio and /dev/dsp, it seem slike I had 
the same problem.



 
 Does anybody has a solution for this problem?
 
 
 (Yes I have read FAQ's and Sound-HOWTO's but they couldn't help me.)
 
 
 
 Bye,
 
 Luka Pravica
 
 
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Re: choosing a linux distribution

1997-07-03 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
 CS == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

CS if your motherboard's bios supports booting from CD then you can
CS boot from a cd drive. if not, then you can't.

And, AFAIK, the CDROM has to be on the primary IDE controller.


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Re: ISDN in UK

1997-07-03 Thread Scott Hanson
olly@lfix.co.uk (Oliver Elphick) writes:


 I see that a new isdnutils package has been released; I would like to use 
 ISDN, but I don't want to spend the money on buying equipment and getting
 a line installed until I know whether the Linux utilities will work with the
 UK system.  I know that ISDN here is implemented differently from the way it
 is in the USA and I believe it is also different from that in Europe.
 
 Does anyone use ISDN in the UK with Linux?
 
 Are there any particular problems?
 
 Which of the equipment advertised in the UK is supported by isdnutils
 and the 2.0.30 kernel?
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I maintain the English translation of the isdn4linux FAQ. However, this
doesn't mean that I have any concrete answers for you .

I'm sure that isdn4linux is being used in the UK... I've seen messages
to this effect on the isdn4linux mailing list. However, I don't have
any information on hardware or confguration.

I'd suggest getting the latest copy of the FAQ from 
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/isdn4linux/FAQ/ 

and checking with the mailing list for UK specific questions (and let
me know the answers so they can be included in the FAQ!). Information
on the mailing list is in the FAQ... or check with me if you have
problems getting the FAQ via FTP.

Hope this helps!

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Window Managers

1997-07-03 Thread Joe Lillibridge
How can users specify their own window managers?  I.E., User A wants to
run fvwm  User B wants to run afterstep.  I'm using xdm.

thanks,
joe


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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Tom,

first of all I didn't see your reply on the list. To get as many people
involved in helping with your problem it is really a good thing to
discuss on the list - otherwise people simply don't hear you.

By now, I'm getting the feeling that something with your set is horribly
broken - your hardware or the software/installation.

I think, however, we can focus on the gcc + cpp + libraries region for
now, because I get the impression that dselect's install only fails
because of reasons related to these packages.

I'm going to show you the correct lines under dselect's select for the
involved packages. Please compare them to what you get and maybe you
could post the differences (or everything):

 *** Std develgcc  2.7.2.1-9   2.7.2.1-9   The GNU C
compiler (ELF v
 *** Std interpre cpp  2.7.2.1-8   2.7.2.1-8   The GNU C
preprocessor (E
 *** Req base ldso 1.8.10-21.8.10-2The Linux dynamic
linker,
 *** Req base libc55.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
library versi
 *** Std devellibc5-dev5.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
library versi

Oh, and you are absolutely right, it should really be easy to install a
Debian system and it nearly always is. So, chin up, will work this out
;-)

Regards,

Andree

PS: Just as I said before, you should really keep the diskussion on the
list to get as many people involved as possible, so I think it would be
a good idea to resend your mail to me to the list, too.

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Re: Window Managers

1997-07-03 Thread George Bonser

In their .xinitrc



On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Joe Lillibridge wrote:

 How can users specify their own window managers?  I.E., User A wants to
 run fvwm  User B wants to run afterstep.  I'm using xdm.
 
 thanks,
 joe
 

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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi again,

thinking a bit more of it, it might be a good idea to make an ldconfig
(as root) to see what's the matter with your libraries. Maybe it even
solves your problems.

By the way, how much experience do you have with Linux in general? I
hope this question doesn't sound rude, it's just goot to know to be able
to adjust the answers accordingly.

Regards,

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Re: Window Managers

1997-07-03 Thread David Kohel
I just set up and configured xdm (thanks to those who responded 
with advice on shadow passwords, etc.), and by default, xdm 
sources the $HOME/.xsession files, not $HOME/.xinitrc files.  
Actually, by default, my initial setup didn't source any user 
files.  See the /etc/X11/Xsession file (read by xdm) and edit 
/etc/X11/config accordingly.  

My /etc/X11/config file now looks like:



xdm-start-server
start-xdm
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession



There may be some Debian configuration utility for xdm, but 
I just added in the last three lines by hands.

David 


 In their .xinitrc
 
 
 
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  How can users specify their own window managers?  I.E., User A wants to
  run fvwm  User B wants to run afterstep.  I'm using xdm.
  
  thanks,
  joe
  
  
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Re: kde window manager locks up

1997-07-03 Thread Bjoern-Bernhard Schad
Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Joey Hess wrote:
  Victor Torrico:
   The newest kde window manager 0.10.01-1 locks up whenever any of the
 
   functions in the right-mouse-button pop-up are selected.  Must do a
   Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to login again to cure situation.  Any help
   appreciated.
 
  I noticed this when I was testing it, but it is pre-alpha software,
  and I
  wanted to get the package out the door, so I didn't do anything about
  it.
  I'll submit a bug report to the kde folks.

I get a lockup if I try to move the kfm icon which appears
on the panel or if I move an icon within kfm. I use kdeapps 0.9.02-1.

   Thanks for the info.  Will keep my eyes open for a future debian kde
 package.

Should I upgrade?

CU
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disk partitioner that handles 6.5G disk?

1997-07-03 Thread Bjoern-Bernhard Schad
Hi,

I noticed that neither my fdisk nor cfdisk display my 8th
partition on a 6.5G Quantum BF Cyclone disk while the kernel
has no trouble with it. I created the partition with cfdisk
btw.

Are there any know patches/ updates/ other partitioners
which work with these big disks?

Thanks for any help
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Re: epson Stylus 600

1997-07-03 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello!  :)

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Britton wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH wrote:
  Hello,
  I m a new user of linux and I have a question
  I bought an Epson Stylus 600 and I have now idea how to print with it
  I would like to print both ascii and postscript files.

[snip] ^_^

 their old versions to the public.  I have heard that this version has some
 trouble supporting the new breed of Epson printers, which is too bad.  I
 don't know off hand who is working on our version of gs.  This might be a
 case where going with the commercial version would be worthwhile.  It is
 presumably more compatible with modern printers.

I have the EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 here, and after spending some time
experimenting and tweaking (Hey, I was a newbie a few months ago too!  :),
my printer is working great under Linux.  :)  It prints all files (LaTeX,
*.ps, Netscape print, xv (*.gif,*.jpg) etc.) with virtually no problems.
:)

As Britton mentioned, there might be some problems that GNU Ghostscript
3.53 might not support the new printer well.  (I don't know.  :)  I
haven't tried the old version.  So, make sure you install the following
with dselect:

NameVersionDescription
===-==-
gs-aladdin  4.03-7 Postscript interpreter with X11 and svgalib
gsfonts 4.01-5 Fonts for the ghostscript interpreter
lprng   3.2.6-1lpr/lpd printer spooling system
magicfilter 1.2-11 automatic printer filter.
enscript1.5.0-1Converting ASCII texts to Postscript
gv  3.4.3-1A PostScript and PDF viewer for X...

You'll need to spend some time to configure for various software to work
with your printer.  For starters, read /usr/doc/gs/devices.txt.gz
(compressed) using the command:

most /usr/doc/gs/devices.txt.gz

which describes the EPSON Stylus COLOR printers support in Ghostscript
4.03.  The Stylus COLOR printer driver was written for older models, but
they work with newer models including COLOR 500, 600 and 800, up to
720x720 dpi.  (No, not 1440x720dpi with gs 4.03.)  Also, the colour setup
was probably optimized for older models, so they might not look good (too
dark or too bright?) on your COLOR 600.  (At least it is so on my 500)

But worry not.  Ghostscript 5.01 comes with uniprint, as well as settings
for the newer printer drivers, so when the Debian package for gs 5.x comes
out, colour printing under Debian will be a lot better.  Also, the new
uniprint supports 1440x720dpi.  :)

Anyway, after installing the packages, you'll need to configure
/etc/printcap, magicfilter filter file, etc.  If you use LaTeX, it is also
recommended that you configure it to generate 180dpi, 360dpi and 720dpi
fonts for printing.  I think teTeX generates 300dpi fonts by default.

Anthony

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pcmcia-modules_2.0.29 won't install !!

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Phillips

I am trying to install Debian on a friend's laptop.  I have the base
system installed and I tried to install pcmcia-modules_2.0.29 but
it failed, complaining:

pcmcia-modules_2.0.29 depends on pcmcia-cs (=2.9.5-2)
however: version of pcmcia-cs on system is 2.9.5-3

The version of the Kernel installed is 2.0.29 (I can't install the 2.0.30
Kernel because I only have access to the base disks until I can get it
hooked up to the internet), so installing mcmcia-modules_2.0.30 doesn't
help me (but it works).

I don't know how to get hold of pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-2 as it is not included
in the bo distribution.

Hence I am stuck.  Anybody know where pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-2 is?  Or know
of a solution?

Thanks.

Mark.


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laptop install problem - pcmcia-eth card can't access internet

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Phillips

This is really a follow up of the email I just sent.  I am trying to
install debian for a friend on his laptop.  I have installed the base
system as well as pcmcia-cs.  I have configured IP addresses etc, rebooted
but I still have no access to the network.

The problem could be that I can't install pcmcia-modules properly (as
outlined in my previous email) but I'm not sure if this is the problem or
the only problem.

Some of the errors I'm getting are:

SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
...
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
...

and later on:

Starting PCMCIA services: module directory /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia
not found.


What do I need to do to get a laptop with a pcmcia ethernet card,
connected to the network.

Thanks,

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Netscape 4.01b6 for Linux is out! :)

1997-07-03 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello!

Probably you all know about this already, but anyway:

Netscape 4.01b6 is out!  It is in:

ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.01/4.01b6/english/unix/other

I am downloading it right now!  Wow, over 9MB?  It looks big.  I sure hope
it works great!  Crossing my finger!  (Still an hour to go before the
download is completed.  :)

Anthony

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TeteX and French

1997-07-03 Thread Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH
Hi,

I would like to know if someone tried to install the Bernard Gaulle
'french' package with TeteX. Is it possible ? How to do it ?

Thanks

F. LE Gall


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Re: AGAIN: Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-03 Thread Rolf Obrecht


On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
 
   cd /dev
   ln -s lp0 printer
 
 I think that MAKEDEV complaint is an internal-array-full in MAKEDEV problem,
 not a full disk. I don't know why that happens in this case. Do look in
 /dev for large files with the names of devices - sometimes something goes
 to write a device that isn't there and creates a file instead.



Thanks to all who replied, but I'm still unable to print.
Linking /dev/lp0 to /dev/printer didn't solve the problem.
MAKEDEV is working now, but MAKEDEV printer doesn't generate
/dev/printer (as I believed), but /dev/lp[0-3].

On a clean Debian machine, I get the following:

otherhost ll /dev/log /dev/printer /dev/lp*

srw-rw-rw-   1 root root0 Jun 27 11:54 /dev/log
crw-rw   1 root lp 6,   0 Jan  3  1997 /dev/lp0
crw-rw   1 root lp 6,   1 Jan  3  1997 /dev/lp1
crw-rw   1 root lp 6,   2 Jan  3  1997 /dev/lp2
crw-rw   1 root lp 6,   3 Jan  3  1997 /dev/lp3
srwxrwxrwx   1 root root0 Jun 27 11:54 /dev/printer
^
So /dev/printer is a socket like /dev/log, not a link. tar'ing
/dev/printer and extracting it converts it to a FIFO (permissions
prwxrwxrwx). I can't figure out why :-(
^
My machine, with dev/lp0 linked to /dev/printer, shows the following
behaviour:

myhost lpc stat

lp:
queuing is enabled
printing is enabled
1 entry in spool area
no daemon present

myhost lpc start all
lp:
printing enabled
lpc: connect: No such file or directory
couldn't start daemon

myhost ps -aux | grep lpd

root   155  0.0  0.3   840   120  ?  SJun 27   0:01 /usr/sbin/lpd 

I think lpc produces the connect error because the SOCKET /dev/printer
is missing.

Does anybody have any idea how to create this socket? I've looked around
on my system, but could'nt find anything like mksocket or similar.
mknod only supports FIFO's, Character and block devices. I'm stuck :-(

Thanks
Rolf



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xfree 3.3

1997-07-03 Thread Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH
Hello,

I am looking for XFree 3.3 (I have got a matrox mystique video card)
as a debian package ? Does it exist ? Where ?

Thanks

Franck


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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
On 2 Jul 1997, Christian Leutloff wrote:
 that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
 CD-ROM 8-(
But it didn't put them in the category of SCSI hosts that will NEVER
work.  Doesn't this suggest that they may one day work?
Recently someone posted the following URL in this list:
 A HREF=http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.htmlLinux Paralles Port Home
Page/A

I had no luck with the Adaptec APA-348 and APA-358 but it was
considered pre alpha.

Nils

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Re: xfree 3.3

1997-07-03 Thread Shaya Potter

It's in unstable, and should be in stable for version 1.3.1

Shaya

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   Hello,
 
   I am looking for XFree 3.3 (I have got a matrox mystique video card)
 as a debian package ? Does it exist ? Where ?
 
   Thanks
 
   Franck
 
 
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Re: help with exmh

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Longair
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

 Clint Adams wrote:
 
[]
  Investigate the MH (or nmh) command packf.
 
 In psckf's man page:
 
 BUGS
Packf  doesn't  handle  the  old  UUCP-style mbox format
(used by SendMail).  To pack messages  into  this  format,
use  the  script /usr/lib/mh/packmbox.
 
 This might apply here, but since I've never done it I'm not sure.

Pine was able to understand both of these formats, though I think packmbox
produced the format I had originally.  Many thanks for the help...

mark


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Re: laptop install problem - pcmcia-eth card can't access internet

1997-07-03 Thread Joergen Haegg
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you write:

The problem could be that I can't install pcmcia-modules properly (as
outlined in my previous email) but I'm not sure if this is the problem or
the only problem.


Just wanted to say that you are not alone. :-)

I installed 2.0.30 kernel-image and pcmcia-modules, plus pcmcia-cs
thru diskettes.

It almost works, the cardmanager finds my ethernet card (IBM creditcard II)
and tries to load the 8390-driver.
But the driver complains about unresolvable symbols, some of these:
netif_rx_R9117ffb8
dev_alloc_skb_R24ee337ab
ether_setup_...
eth_type_trans_...
dev_kfree_skb_...

and so on.

(My PCMCIA modem-card is working though.)

I've probably missed upgrading some important module.
But which one? :-)

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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Adrian Phillips
 Mark == Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paralell port CDROM player questions

Check out the Linux parallel port page :

http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html

(It depends on your CDROM)

Adrian


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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Dale Scheetz
I'm sorry to have missed the front of this thread.

First, the version in stable is correct. The fact that an older version is
in unstable is a minor problem with the archive management.

Second, this version was tested on a fresh install by myself and at
least one other tester, with no problems, so I am confused as to why/how
this problem got started.

Aside from complaining about the older version, does the package install?

Sorry if I'm asking for a previous explanation...

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

 On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
  message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.
 
 I am sorry as I really don't know how to solve your problem but the one
 strange thing I have noticed is that the package you are trying to install
 is libc5_5.4.33-3.deb but then dpkg turns around and says the older
 version 4.23-6 is installed. The reason I mention this is that I saw
 another post that stated that 4.23-4 is in unstable whereas 4.33-3 is in
 stable. There may be a temporary mix up on the archive site that may cause
 the problem although I don't know if this would cause it. Anyway,
 hopefully fuelling the discussion will get other more knowledgable users
 involved. Cheers. 
 
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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Dale Scheetz
Sorry to take so long to reply. The recent point release has been taking
all my time.

I suspect that your problems are with the ftp method (this was not tested
as extensivly as it should have been)

You indicated that you have tried this 7 times. Was it from scratch each
time? That is, did you start over and do a fresh install each time?

Suggestion: Set up the base system. Download the new libc5 package and
install it with dpkg -i libc5*.deb 21 |tee install.log. This will put
all the error messages into the file intall.log. If the installation
fails, send me the file.

If you think it might help, you should feel free to call me, but we should
be able to resolve this via e-mail.

With respect to a CD. I'm fairly confident that a CD would work for you
(this sounds like a problem with the ftp method of dselect) and can
provide you with a 1.3.1 CD. If you are interested, let me know.

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
 installing debian 1.3.
 
 I have only had one responce on my posted questions... and am no
 farther ahead than I was a week ago.  
 
 Whats my problem???  Well ok, let's see, the installation of the base
 system
 works correctly. I can boot my Debian GNU/Linux system from
 harddisk, and I have a network connection.
 
 Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
 an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
 it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.
 
 I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
 message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.
 
 I do get other error messages trying to install other files using the
 dpkg -i method.  I seem to get all sorts of dependency errors.  So I
 try to install the files that the system says it depends on and end up
 back at the can't map /lib/libc5 error.  I also get some kind of error
 that says that the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 file is missing.  I look for it
 and it points to a file in lib/libc.so.5.  
 
 At this point I am confused on whats right and whats wrong.  After
 installing this thing  7 times now and always running up into the same
 error every single install, I don't know where to turn.  The IRC are
 useless and I haven't gotten but one responce on this list.  
 
 Does anyone know of anyone I can call for help???  If I bought a CD
 would it make a differnece?   Am I talking to brick wall???
 
 
 Tony Koehn
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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

 
 [stuff about complete install failure with dselect/dpkg]
 
 What version of the bootdisks do you have ?
 You shouldn't need to upgrade libc5 after a fresh instal... You probably have 
 something very wrong.
 I'd suggest getting a new set of bootdisks and restarting from scratch.
 
The libc5 version was updated after the last disk set, so it doesn't
appear in base, and must be upgraded. There were no problems encountered
during testing (in fact I just did a standard installation yesterday from
the 1.3.1 archive with no problems) so I am assuming this is an ftp method
problem.

Luck,

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Re: What happened to fvwm95.

1997-07-03 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings!  My 1.3 upgrade also wiped out my
/etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95 file.  A simple link:

system.fvwm2rc95 - system.fvwm2rc95.orig-dist

though, fixed the problem.  Is this a bug?

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ftape question

1997-07-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello,

I have a Iomega 250 floppy tape drive.  I compiled ftape into
the Kernel (2.0.30).  But what to do to get a device
   /dev/ftape  ???

According to the CDROM-HOWTO I have to create this entry via mknod.
But what are the correct parameters.  I didn't find any information
neither in the HOWTO nor in the kernel package.

Futhermore in Ftape-howto I found, that there is a newer version
than 2.08 (which is shipped within the kernel-package) with the
version number 2.09.  My search on sunsite showed me Version
3.03a from May 23, 1997.  Any recommendations about this drivers?

Any help to this questions?

Greetings
Andreas.


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Re: What happened to fvwm95.

1997-07-03 Thread joost witteveen
 Greetings!  My 1.3 upgrade also wiped out my
 /etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95 file.  A simple link:
 
 system.fvwm2rc95 - system.fvwm2rc95.orig-dist
 
 though, fixed the problem.  Is this a bug?

If two people saw the same thing, then it must be a bug.
It is, however a bug that hasn't been located in the source
yet.

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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread bigt
Bruce,
When I run ldconfig here is what it says

ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping
ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping

When I look for these files they point to:

libc.so  - /lib/libc.so.5.4.33  This file don't exist but there is a
5.4.23
libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5.0.9   This file also does not exist but is a
5.0.8

How would I fix this???

Tony



BRFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BR Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
BR an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
BR it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.

BRJust to see if you get lucky, become root and run ldconfig. That might
BRsolve this problem. If it does not, please give us the entire text of the
BRmessage when dselect quits, and tell us exactly what you are doing when
BRyou get to that message. Your best bet would be to fix this problem, so
BRthat you can install using dselect.

BRYou are not talking to a brick wall. You do have to give us better
BRinformation, though, otherwise we will have no idea of what is happening
BRon your system.

BRRegarding whether buying a CD would help, it might help you install
BRfaster, but we give the same customer service either way.

BR Thanks

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Re: laptop install problem - pcmcia-eth card can't access internet

1997-07-03 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Joergen Haegg wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  you write:
 
 The problem could be that I can't install pcmcia-modules properly (as
 outlined in my previous email) but I'm not sure if this is the problem or
 the only problem.
 
 
 Just wanted to say that you are not alone. :-)
 
 I installed 2.0.30 kernel-image and pcmcia-modules, plus pcmcia-cs
 thru diskettes.
 
 It almost works, the cardmanager finds my ethernet card (IBM creditcard II)
 and tries to load the 8390-driver.
 But the driver complains about unresolvable symbols, some of these:
 netif_rx_R9117ffb8
 dev_alloc_skb_R24ee337ab
 ether_setup_...
 eth_type_trans_...
 dev_kfree_skb_...

I've had problems in the past with the pcmcia packages.  My
solution was to use both the kernel source and pcmcia
source packages and build custom binaries myself.  Make sure
you build the modules from the kernel package.  You will
probably have to define some aliases in /etc/modules.conf as
well.

The result works great on my laptop with both a modem and
ethernet card.

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Re: AGAIN: Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-03 Thread Rolf Obrecht
Ufff, problem solved !!!

Thanks to Allan Black I now understand the whole thing a bit better
(hopefully). 

Restarting lpd didn't help; but rebooting the machine re-created my lost
socket :)

The only problem I still have to deal with is to cool down those users
who got logged out without warning; but that is my private thing...

Again, thanks to all who helped!
Rolf


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Where's the package for netscape communicator

1997-07-03 Thread Shaya Potter

There used to be a package, netscape-beta, that could be used to install
communicator, it's gone now.  Is there a reason it disappeared.

Thanks,

Shaya


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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread bigt


LEHi again,

LEthinking a bit more of it, it might be a good idea to make an ldconfig
LE(as root) to see what's the matter with your libraries. Maybe it even
LEsolves your problems.

LEBy the way, how much experience do you have with Linux in general? I
LEhope this question doesn't sound rude, it's just goot to know to be able
LEto adjust the answers accordingly.

LERegards,

LE Andree


No its not rude  

I have been using linux now for some 6 months.  I don't program on it
and don't have any idea as to what a lot of the files are for.  Now DOS
another story 

I use Linux becuase of its ability to handle internet very well.  Thats
what we use it for but not having anyone in my area where I live at
that knows anything about it is hard to find.


Ok on ldconfig:  I get these messages

ldconfig:  warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping
ldconfig:  warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping

the libc.so points to /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 but this file does not exist
I have a 5.4.23
the libm.so points to /lib/libm.so.5.0.9 but this file does not exist I
have a 5.0.8

What gives here??  What is ldconfig for?

Tony
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Re: Window Managers

1997-07-03 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, David Kohel wrote:

 I just set up and configured xdm (thanks to those who responded 
 with advice on shadow passwords, etc.), and by default, xdm 
 sources the $HOME/.xsession files, not $HOME/.xinitrc files.  

If you use xdm, .xsession is the individual user configuration. If you
just run X through startx or xinit, then .xinitrc is the file to use. Look
into /etc/X11/xdm for the global Xsession and in /etc/X11/xinit for the
global xinitrc. Modify the one you that is applicable and then save it as
the appropriate dot file. Cheers.


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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread bigt


LEBy now, I'm getting the feeling that something with your set is horribly
LEbroken - your hardware or the software/installation.

LEI think, however, we can focus on the gcc + cpp + libraries region for
LEnow, because I get the impression that dselect's install only fails
LEbecause of reasons related to these packages.

LEI'm going to show you the correct lines under dselect's select for the
LEinvolved packages. Please compare them to what you get and maybe you
LEcould post the differences (or everything):

LE *** Std develgcc  2.7.2.1-9   2.7.2.1-9   The GNU C
LEcompiler (ELF v

Shows:   2.7.2.1-8   2.7.2.18


LE *** Std interpre cpp  2.7.2.1-8   2.7.2.1-8   The GNU C
LEpreprocessor (E

Shows The same here...

LE *** Req base ldso 1.8.10-21.8.10-2The Linux dynamic
LElinker,

Shows The same here...

LE *** Req base libc55.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
LElibrary versi

Shows an install version of 5.4.23-6 with available version of 5.4.33-3

LE *** Std devellibc5-dev5.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
LElibrary versi

Shows The same here...


LERegards,

LE Andree
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rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty

1997-07-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Okay, I got my error again.

Note: This occurs with rxvt v2.21 (latest vsn) and rxvt 2.20 
  (from XFree-3.3).  This is therefore not a Debian-specific problem. 

 /usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt
rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty
rxvt: aborting 

 strace rxvt
[much stuff deleted]
geteuid()   = 1000
getegid()   = 1000
getuid()= 1000
setreuid(65535, 1000)   = 0
getgid()= 1000
setregid(65535, 1000)   = 0
open(/dev/ptyp0, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp1, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp2, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp3, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp4, O_RDWR)  = 4
access(/dev/ttyp4, R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open(/dev/ptyp5, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/dev/ptyp6, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[more of the same...]
open(/dev/ptysf, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)  
open(/dev/ptyt0, O_RDWR)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[more of the same...]
open(/dev/ptyzf, O_RDWR)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

 ls -l /dev/pty*
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   0 Jul  2 16:04 /dev/ptyp0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   1 Jul  3 09:48 /dev/ptyp1
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   2 Jul  2 11:06 /dev/ptyp2
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   3 Jul  3 09:44 /dev/ptyp3
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   4 Jul  3 09:44 /dev/ptyp4
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   5 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp5
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   6 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp6
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   7 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp7
[etc...]

The weirdest thing is that
 (1) I could open rxvt's yesterday when I left (and the PC was left
 untouched overnight)
 (2) After a few errors, the command works again.

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Re: XF_SVGA depenpencies

1997-07-03 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

  Should it not require xbase, or something like that?
 That DOES seem silly.

No, why? They _DO_ require xbase to work, don't they?

  Also, should we not have a RECOMMENDATION that the user installs the
  16-color X server whenever installing X (otherwise xf86setup is not

 I believe that Xbase requires XF86_VGA ... I think the packages are set up

No it does not. Also, a requirement is rather hard. A recommendation
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Re: AGAIN: Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-03 Thread Rolf Obrecht

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Allan Black wrote:

 Correct. /dev/printer is created by lpd, when it starts up.
 
 The only way to create it is to restart lpd. Try:
 
 kill lpd
 remove /dev/printer
 start lpd
 
 lpd should then create /dev/printer.
 

Hi Allan,
first of all many thanks for your excellent explanation. 
Unfortunately, removing /dev/printer and killing /restarting lpd does not
create a printer socket. Would a reboot be more helpful? Then I'd have to
wait until Saturday, because the machine acts as an application server for
our HP-UNIX-machines :-(

Or should I re-install the lpd-package? What do you think?

Thanks a lot
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A Basic Question

1997-07-03 Thread Alex Fan
Is Debian a Linux distribution, just like Slackware and Radhat?


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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread bigt

DWI suspect that your problems are with the ftp method (this was not tested
DWas extensivly as it should have been)

DWYou indicated that you have tried this 7 times. Was it from scratch each
DWtime? That is, did you start over and do a fresh install each time?

Yes each time was a start over...  Set the Boot partition back to the
dos partition first and start again.  


DWSuggestion: Set up the base system. Download the new libc5 package and
DWinstall it with dpkg -i libc5*.deb 21 |tee install.log. This will put
DWall the error messages into the file intall.log. If the installation
DWfails, send me the file.

Does this mean  When dselect is ran skip the selectoin process and
jump strait to install???

DWIf you think it might help, you should feel free to call me, but we should
DWbe able to resolve this via e-mail.

DWWith respect to a CD. I'm fairly confident that a CD would work for you
DW(this sounds like a problem with the ftp method of dselect) and can
DWprovide you with a 1.3.1 CD. If you are interested, let me know.

Whats the cost here



DWOn Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DW Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
DW installing debian 1.3.
DW 
DW I have only had one responce on my posted questions... and am no
DW farther ahead than I was a week ago.  
DW 
DW Whats my problem???  Well ok, let's see, the installation of the base
DW system
DW works correctly. I can boot my Debian GNU/Linux system from
DW harddisk, and I have a network connection.
DW 
DW Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
DW an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
DW it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.
DW 
DW I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
DW message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.
DW 
DW I do get other error messages trying to install other files using the
DW dpkg -i method.  I seem to get all sorts of dependency errors.  So I
DW try to install the files that the system says it depends on and end up
DW back at the can't map /lib/libc5 error.  I also get some kind of error
DW that says that the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 file is missing.  I look for it
DW and it points to a file in lib/libc.so.5.  
DW 
DW At this point I am confused on whats right and whats wrong.  After
DW installing this thing  7 times now and always running up into the same
DW error every single install, I don't know where to turn.  The IRC are
DW useless and I haven't gotten but one responce on this list.  
DW 
DW Does anyone know of anyone I can call for help???  If I bought a CD
DW would it make a differnece?   Am I talking to brick wall???
DW 
DW 
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Re: A Basic Question

1997-07-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Alex Fan wrote:

 Is Debian a Linux distribution, just like Slackware and Radhat?

Well,  yes,  it's a distribution.  We'd like to think that it's somewhat
nicer than Slackware and Redhat,  tho :) ... 
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Re: A Basic Question

1997-07-03 Thread Tim O'Brien
At 10:29 PM 7/3/97 +0900, you wrote:
Is Debian a Linux distribution, just like Slackware and Radhat?

It's a distribution, yes. It's different than Slackware and Redhat of
course, but it is a distribution. 

The basic difference IMO, is that Debian has a better package
installation/maintainance system. I'm sure there are lots of other
differences, but that's the biggest one that comes to mind.

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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
 ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
 
 When I look for these files they point to:
 
 libc.so  - /lib/libc.so.5.4.33  This file don't exist but there is a
 5.4.23
 libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5.0.9   This file also does not exist but is a
 5.0.8

It seems sometimes that some packages fail to update soft links quite
right when they install -- this happened to me the other day with
libXext.so. Try this:

a) mv libc.so libc.so.old
   mv libm.so libm.so.old
(we want to remember these in case we need to fix them later)
b) ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 libc.so
   ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.0.9 libm.so
(make new soft links pointing to the files)
c) try again to do whatever caused the above messages.

If this works ok,  you can rm the .old links.   
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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Will Lowe
OOPS.  See below:

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

  libc.so  - /lib/libc.so.5.4.33  This file don't exist but there is a
  5.4.23
  libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5.0.9   This file also does not exist but is a
  5.0.8
 
 b) ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 libc.so
ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.0.9  libm.so
here's the errors:  ^^
   (make new soft links pointing to the files)
THESE should be:
ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.23 libc.so
ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.0.8 libm.so
The idea being to make libc/m links to the files you DO have.

Will

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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 DWSuggestion: Set up the base system. Download the new libc5 package and
 DWinstall it with dpkg -i libc5*.deb 21 |tee install.log. This will put
 DWall the error messages into the file intall.log. If the installation
 DWfails, send me the file.
 
 Does this mean  When dselect is ran skip the selectoin process and
 jump strait to install???

Nope. Directly to [Q]uit.

Then ftp to ftp.debian.org, fetch libc5* package and install with dpkg -i.

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Re: Too many open files: ulimits

1997-07-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Take a look at /etc/lshell.conf

Oh, that's it, thanks!

Now one question... I have fortunes installed and fortunes-mod. With this
setup if one types fortune it will try to open 74 files! (The fortunes
and the .dat files plus stdio et al) I know this is not normal, but
anyway, isn't 24 files a little bit low (24 is the default in lshell.conf)

BTW, I modified the profile to open a single (user selectable) file (a lot
of users here like cookies and the rest doesn't mind...) 

Thanks a lot to all of you who responded. And yes, I'll look closely to
what I'm installing.


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Re: repartitioning

1997-07-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 Of course you will have to edit /etc/fstab and probably /etc/lilo.conf
 plus run lilo before rebooting.

Thanks to those who've replied.  One last question:  at the moment I've
got three partitions on my drive :

hda1 Win95 (hanging head in shame)
hda5 Debian 
hda6 linux swap

Ok.  I've still got a gig free.  If I partition this into a few linux
partitions for /usr, /, /home,  etc.,  I'll have names like:
hda7 
hda8
hda9

Ok.  So I put those in lilo.conf and in fstab,  and life's good.
Now if I _delete_ hda5,  do they all get bumped back up a number?  Won't
that confuse lilo,  when it looks for vmlinuz on hda7 but the partition's
been renamed to hda6?

Will

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Re: AGAIN: Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-03 Thread Bruce Perens
OK. Remove /dev/printer and start lpd. It'll probably create the socket on
its own. See why it doesn't start from one of the /etc/rc.d files.

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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Tony,

there we got it! Some of your library links are trashed. (ldconfig
manages all shared libraries on your system and says that it can't find
neither the main C library nor the math library.)

Probably the fix is pretty simple: Login as root, delete the dangling
links /usr/lib/libc.so and /usr/lib/libm.so. Then create new ones
pointing to the available library files:

/usr/lib/libc.so -- /lib/libc.so.5.4.33
/usr/lib/libm.so -- /lib/libm.so.5.0.9

In case rm and ln do not work (because of the missing links) you have to
boot from the rescue disk, mount your /usr system and make the links.

Regards,

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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Andree Leidenfrost wrote:

 /usr/lib/libc.so -- /lib/libc.so.5.4.33
 /usr/lib/libm.so -- /lib/libm.so.5.0.9

You've made the same mistake I did ... .5.4.33 and .5.0.9 are the versions
the links _currently_ point to,  which he doesn't have.  Just make sure
that you make the links to whichever versions you _do_ have, and you'll be
fine.
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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-03 Thread stick
 
 I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but
 I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment.
 
I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can
do.  However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT
file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change.

On DOS systems (I've not worked much with Win95) to get larger partitions
and file systems a huge cluster size is chosen.  This means that every little
file is allocated as much as 8k of disk.  To get around this shrink the
existing file-system so that the free space is the size you want for the final
DOS/Windows partition, create a file system (make it bootable if you want)
and then copy your files to that partition.  Once you've checked your work and
are sure that everything is as you want it to be, delete the original file-
system and use that space for you ext2fs.

And always make a backup or two before you start...

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Diety contacts? (was Re: Dselect replacement?)

1997-07-03 Thread Linux dist. research
Next question and then I'll hopefully shut up for a day or two about this
topic :-)

Does anyone know where I can get in contact with the people and/or the
product of the Diety project?  I checked www.debian.org's web site and
didn't find anything, and am not going to even bother with an altavista
web search for the word Diety.  

Thanks in advance.

Chip

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On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Britton wrote:

 
 On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Linux dist. research wrote:
 
  I saw a reference to a possible future replacement for dselect.  Does
  anyone know about this?
 
 The project is calle diety.  It is intended to fix the percieved problems
 and inconviences the plauge dselect.  Personnaly I like dselect, and I
 hope things don't change too much.
 
  
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Hard drive crash question

1997-07-03 Thread Linux dist. research
Greetings,

Last night I got the exciting message on my screen:

scsi0: medium error on channel 0, id3, lun 0, CDB: read (6)
Current Error sd08:02 sensekey medium error
additional sense indicates record not found

repeating many times as I tried to boot.  A day ago, I got a crc check
sum error on a known working kernel, and then before I got the medium
errors, I had fsck troubles, and couldn't get the file system repaired.

Does this look like a certain hard drive failure, or does anyone think it
could be caused by something else, say bad cache, ram, etc.?

I'm asking because I'd hate to return the drive to Seagate, only to find
that the problem is somewhere else.  I also plan on doing some separate
drive testing, but wanted to get other input as well.

Thanks in advance!

Chip

P.S.  I do have backups, and, oddly enough, ordered an extra drive a
couple days ago as a coincidence.  Therefore, my life isn't ruined :-)

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Re: kde window manager locks up

1997-07-03 Thread Joey Hess
Bjoern-Bernhard Schad:
 I get a lockup if I try to move the kfm icon which appears
 on the panel or if I move an icon within kfm. I use kdeapps 0.9.02-1.
 
 Should I upgrade?

Yes, do upgrade. This bug is fixed ib kdeapps 0.10.01

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Re: octave

1997-07-03 Thread CHUCK
Thanks to the many who helped yesterday. Octave complained that it needed
libg++, even though it wasn't listed dependent on it. I tried to install
libg++27_2.7.2.1-6.deb.
When I did, dpkg found several packages in available that had the
version field empty. I looked at the file and each of those packages had
versions x:yz . I changed them to x.yz and that seemed to allow dpkg to
proceed. However it then said libg++27_2.7.2.1-6 needed libc5 later than the
version that was installed. So I installed libc5-dev_5.4.20-1.deb. It had a few
complaints about empty version fields which I fixed the same way, and then
seemed to install ok.
Finally I typed octave and this time the response was segmentation fault.
What should I try next?
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Installing onto Compaq Proliant SCSI system

1997-07-03 Thread John Lines
I am trying to install Debian 1.3 on a SCSI based Compaq Proliant system, and
the built in drivers cant find a hard disk to become the system disk.

Has anyone managed to get Linux to run on the Compaq Proliant ?? Is the
Compaq FAST SCSI adaptor a rebadged something else?

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off topic: password strategy as an ISP

1997-07-03 Thread Richard Morin
As you can see, this message is very offtopic, but still somewhat Debian
related.

I am curious how folks who use Debian in a production environment deal
with allocating passwords.

Do you use the pwgen package and let users worry about it from there, or
do you let them choose within the confines of what passwd allows?
I can see a lot of...no, you can't have anything that appears in the
dictionary, no thats too short, you need a capital or a number in it..
or...ok, to change your password you have to telnet in...ok, telnet
is...then type passwd...

It is interesting.  I've had ISP's who use BSD, Slackware Linux, and NT.  
The BSD ISP gave me a rather cryptic looking password.
I had my choice with the Slackware ISP. (Debian would not have accepted my
password...too simple)
Likewise, the NT ISP, allowed me to choose a rather simple password.
Even though hard to remember at first, the password I had with BSD was
likely the most secure.  

TIA for sharing your strategies.

Rich M
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3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

1997-07-03 Thread Kevin Traas

I'm just in the process of trying to put a Linux box onto the Fast Ethernet
network here at work.  My only choice for a NIC is a 3COM 3C905-TX.

Has anyone successfully configured this card under Debian Linux?

(Note, this is a 905, not a 509.)

Thanks,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Baan Business Systems


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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

1997-07-03 Thread Kevin Traas
Oops!!! Never mind!  I did a little RTFM'ing and found what I needed!

Thanks anyway,
Kevin Traas

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 Subject: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC
 Date: July 3, 1997 10:42 AM
 
 
 I'm just in the process of trying to put a Linux box onto the Fast
Ethernet
 network here at work.  My only choice for a NIC is a 3COM 3C905-TX.
 
 Has anyone successfully configured this card under Debian Linux?
 
 (Note, this is a 905, not a 509.)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kevin Traas
 Systems Analyst
 Baan Business Systems
 
 
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Re: octave

1997-07-03 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks to the many who helped yesterday. Octave complained that it needed
 libg++, even though it wasn't listed dependent on it. I tried to install
 libg++27_2.7.2.1-6.deb.
 When I did, dpkg found several packages in available that had the
 version field empty. I looked at the file and each of those packages had
 versions x:yz . I changed them to x.yz and that seemed to allow dpkg to
 proceed. However it then said libg++27_2.7.2.1-6 needed libc5 later than the
 version that was installed. So I installed libc5-dev_5.4.20-1.deb. It had a 
 few
 complaints about empty version fields which I fixed the same way, and then
 seemed to install ok.
 Finally I typed octave and this time the response was segmentation fault.
 What should I try next?

What version of octave are you using?

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Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

1997-07-03 Thread Victor Torrico
The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
netscape-beta package.  It seems to be very stable but then again I
never had problems with Communicator 4.0b5.  Of course you must first
delete the /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape link and then make a new soft link to
ln -s /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape and all
will be well.

I live off the unstable directory so this may be why Communicator works
OK for me.  Who knows?

Cheers,

Victor

ps:  The new Communicator is available from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/...




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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-03 Thread Dima
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  I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but
  I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment.
  
 I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can
 do.  However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT
 file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change.

IIRC FIPS also refuses(-ed?) to work on non-primary partitions, 
'95, NT partitions etc.
Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several
partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0)
 
Dimitri


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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-03 Thread Shaya Potter
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Dima wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but
   I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment.
   
  I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can
  do.  However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT
  file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change.
 
 IIRC FIPS also refuses(-ed?) to work on non-primary partitions, 
 '95, NT partitions etc.
 Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several
 partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0)
  

I don't think it support ext2, it just recognizes it.  From checking their
web pages, I don't see any mention of being able to resize an ext2
partition.

Shaya


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mh in a POP environment

1997-07-03 Thread Stephen Witt
I was wondering what the best way of using mh with a POP server might be?
I've been a mh user (mh-e) for years at work (SunOS and Solaris) and would
like to try it with my Linux machine at home (I have been using Netscape mail).

Does mh POP work OK?  Should I use one of the other POP packages available to 
transport the mail locally and then use mh from there?

BTW, I'm running Debian 1.3.

Thanks...


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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

1997-07-03 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

Hi, Victor

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:

 The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
 netscape-beta package.  

where did you find netscape-beta package installer ?
It's gone !!! Unfortunately i purged
netscape-beta from my computer before checking
is it available or not. 

Can you tell where it's located ?

sincerely

OK

ps i would be very grateful if you can send it to me
via MIME-attachment. Promise to put it on my page...

thanks a lot in advance


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Re: octave

1997-07-03 Thread Bruce Perens
 So I installed libc5-dev_5.4.20-1.deb.

Nope, install libc5_, not libc5-dev_ The -dev version means developer, and
is for use in compiling programs, not executing them.

Thanks

Bruce
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