RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread SJ.Stanaitis
Realized that after the fact, just didn't need the re-iteration of what I
already knew before my 2nd cup of coffee today.  I'll join up to the Virus
list as well.

Cheers,
--SJ

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

SJ,

Marc was only trying to help by pointing out that F-Prot has a different 
licensing scheme for mail servers than client machines.  At one time 
F-Prot did not differentiate the two and a lot of us were using F-Prot 
with a much higher user count than even what the chart listed below. 
Than one day with no notice it all changed - and they even made a point 
to specifically point out "using it under Declude".  At that point the 
cost for most of us jumped through the roof.  For several customers I 
consult for it went from $100 to well in excess of $5K.  So needless to 
say we had to find alternated - and we were VERY thankful AVG was 
included in Declude.

Marc's post (as I interpreted it) was to make sure you did not end up in 
a licensing bind as many others...

This list is very friendly and helpful and we would like to keep it that 
way.

Darrell

SJ.Stanaitis wrote:
> Your powers of observation boggle the mind.
> 
>  
> 
> --SJ
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
> *Marc Catuogno
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:37 AM
> *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?
> 
>  
> 
> So you have 100 users?
> 
> http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html
> 
> 
> F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Number of Users
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Annual license fee
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 1-24
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 269
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 25-49
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 359
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 50-99
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 449
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 100-199
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 719
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 200-299
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 989
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 300-399
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 1259
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 400-499
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 1529
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 500-749
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 1799
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 750-999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 2069
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 1000-1999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 2519
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 2000-2999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 2969
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 3000-3999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 3419
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 4000-4999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 3869
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 5000-5999
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> US$ 4499
> 
>  
> 
> /*/Marc Catuogno/*/
> MIS Director
> Prudential Rand Realty
> 845-825-8025
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?
> 
> 
> $500?  That's a steal.  Website answered my questions.
> 
>  
> 
> --SJ
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> **From:** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **On Behalf 
> Of **Marc Catuogno
> **Sent:** Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
> **To:** declude.junkmail@declude.com
> **Subject:** RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?
> 
>  
> 
> Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server 
> unless they have changed with the new version
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> **From:** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **On Behalf 
> Of **SJ.Stanaitis
> **Sent:** Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
> **To:** declude.junkmail@declude.com
> **Subject:** [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?
>

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

SJ,

Marc was only trying to help by pointing out that F-Prot has a different 
licensing scheme for mail servers than client machines.  At one time 
F-Prot did not differentiate the two and a lot of us were using F-Prot 
with a much higher user count than even what the chart listed below. 
Than one day with no notice it all changed - and they even made a point 
to specifically point out "using it under Declude".  At that point the 
cost for most of us jumped through the roof.  For several customers I 
consult for it went from $100 to well in excess of $5K.  So needless to 
say we had to find alternated - and we were VERY thankful AVG was 
included in Declude.


Marc's post (as I interpreted it) was to make sure you did not end up in 
a licensing bind as many others...


This list is very friendly and helpful and we would like to keep it that 
way.


Darrell

SJ.Stanaitis wrote:

Your powers of observation boggle the mind.

 


--SJ

 




*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
*Marc Catuogno

*Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:37 AM
*To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com
*Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 


So you have 100 users?

http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html


F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

 




Number of Users



 




Annual license fee

 




1-24



 




US$ 269

 




25-49



 




US$ 359

 




50-99



 




US$ 449

 




100-199



 




US$ 719

 




200-299



 




US$ 989

 




300-399



 




US$ 1259

 




400-499



 




US$ 1529

 




500-749



 




US$ 1799

 




750-999



 




US$ 2069

 




1000-1999



 




US$ 2519

 




2000-2999



 




US$ 2969

 




3000-3999



 




US$ 3419

 




4000-4999



 




US$ 3869

 




5000-5999



 




US$ 4499

 


/*/Marc Catuogno/*/
MIS Director
Prudential Rand Realty
845-825-8025



-Original Message-
From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?


$500?  That’s a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 


--SJ

 




**From:** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **On Behalf 
Of **Marc Catuogno

**Sent:** Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
**To:** declude.junkmail@declude.com
**Subject:** RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Don’t know – but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server 
unless they have changed with the new version


 




**From:** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **On Behalf 
Of **SJ.Stanaitis

**Sent:** Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
**To:** declude.junkmail@declude.com
**Subject:** [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it 
still have the command line scanner?


 


--SJ


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread Marc Catuogno
Your sarcasm is appreciated -  

I am used to users that don't listen or pay much attention, like asking
anti-virus questions on the junk mail list or asking a question that could
be answered by simply going to the website.

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SJ.Stanaitis
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:53 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Your powers of observation boggle the mind.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

So you have 100 users?

http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html




F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers



 

Number of Users

 

Annual license fee


 

1-24

 

US$ 269


 

25-49

 

US$ 359


 

50-99

 

US$ 449


 

100-199

 

US$ 719


 

200-299

 

US$ 989


 

300-399

 

US$ 1259


 

400-499

 

US$ 1529


 

500-749

 

US$ 1799


 

750-999

 

US$ 2069


 

1000-1999

 

US$ 2519


 

2000-2999

 

US$ 2969


 

3000-3999

 

US$ 3419


 

4000-4999

 

US$ 3869


 

5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

 

Marc Catuogno
MIS Director
Prudential Rand Realty
845-825-8025



-Original Message-
From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?



$500?  That's a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server unless
they have changed with the new version 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SJ.Stanaitis
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it
still have the command line scanner?

 

--SJ


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread SJ.Stanaitis
Apologies, long morning, no coffee yet.

 

Actually have about half that, but I like to keep things scalable.

 

Cheers,

--SJ

 

  _  

From: SJ.Stanaitis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:53 AM
To: 'declude.junkmail@declude.com'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Your powers of observation boggle the mind.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

So you have 100 users?

http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html




F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers



 

Number of Users

 

Annual license fee


 

1-24

 

US$ 269


 

25-49

 

US$ 359


 

50-99

 

US$ 449


 

100-199

 

US$ 719


 

200-299

 

US$ 989


 

300-399

 

US$ 1259


 

400-499

 

US$ 1529


 

500-749

 

US$ 1799


 

750-999

 

US$ 2069


 

1000-1999

 

US$ 2519


 

2000-2999

 

US$ 2969


 

3000-3999

 

US$ 3419


 

4000-4999

 

US$ 3869


 

5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

 

Marc Catuogno
MIS Director
Prudential Rand Realty
845-825-8025



-Original Message-
From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?



$500?  That's a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server unless
they have changed with the new version 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SJ.Stanaitis
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it
still have the command line scanner?

 

--SJ


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread SJ.Stanaitis
Your powers of observation boggle the mind.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

So you have 100 users?

http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html





F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers



 

Number of Users

 

Annual license fee


 

1-24

 

US$ 269


 

25-49

 

US$ 359


 

50-99

 

US$ 449


 

100-199

 

US$ 719


 

200-299

 

US$ 989


 

300-399

 

US$ 1259


 

400-499

 

US$ 1529


 

500-749

 

US$ 1799


 

750-999

 

US$ 2069


 

1000-1999

 

US$ 2519


 

2000-2999

 

US$ 2969


 

3000-3999

 

US$ 3419


 

4000-4999

 

US$ 3869


 

5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

 

Marc Catuogno
MIS Director
Prudential Rand Realty
845-825-8025



-Original Message-
From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?




$500?  That's a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server unless
they have changed with the new version 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SJ.Stanaitis
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it
still have the command line scanner?

 

--SJ


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread Marc Catuogno
So you have 100 users?
 
 http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html
 
 
 
F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers     Number of Users 
  Annual license fee     1-24   US$ 269     25-49   
US$ 359     50-99   US$ 449     100-199   US$ 719     
200-299   US$ 989     300-399   US$ 1259     400-499   
US$ 1529     500-749   US$ 1799     750-999   US$ 2069   
  1000-1999   US$ 2519     2000-2999   US$ 2969     
3000-3999   US$ 3419     4000-4999   US$ 3869     5000-5999 
  US$ 4499
 
 

Marc Catuogno
 MIS Director
 Prudential Rand Realty
 845-825-8025
 

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: "SJ.Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Sent 8/23/2007 9:04:42 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?
 
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{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }  

$500?  That’s a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 

 

 

--SJ

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

  

 

 

Don’t know – but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail 
server unless they have changed with the new version 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SJ.Stanaitis
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:39 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

  

 

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it 
still have the command line scanner?

 

 

 

--SJ

  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-23 Thread SJ.Stanaitis
$500?  That's a steal.  Website answered my questions.

 

--SJ

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Catuogno
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server unless
they have changed with the new version 

 

  _  

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SJ.Stanaitis
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To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

 

Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it
still have the command line scanner?

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 6?

2007-08-22 Thread Marc Catuogno
Don't know - but it has a hefty price for legit use on a mail server unless
they have changed with the new version 

 

  _  

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Anyone here using F-Prot 6 with their Declude antivirus setup?  Does it
still have the command line scanner?

 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Serge

So, declude will turn out to be the biggest winner in fprot price increase!

Hope it is not declude that alerted frisk about how fprot is beiing used :)

Anyway, I do not care, i have a perpetual license.


- Original Message - 
From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing


Declude Suite now includes an integrated AVG scanner as part of the price 
of

the Suite.

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"



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> Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
> to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
> updates?

The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot.
They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years.





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Matt

Nick,

One other thing about this.  It's not the scan time that is the most 
important, it's the CPU utilization.  As it turns out, they are roughly 
related, and clearly clamdscan and F-Prot are the best performers by a 
mile.  Back when I did my tests of these things, those two ran neck and 
neck, hardly registering any load, and then with a big jump, McAfee and 
AVG were third and fourth best.


I have minimized the affects by doing AV scanning after the JunkMail 
scanning, which is behind an Alligate gateway, so many fewer messages 
get scanned for viruses, but still AV scanning is a major contributer to 
overall load.


Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:



David Barker wrote:


 Declude has
this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which 
enables

customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin



Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd  which is wicked fast 
[and free]. This is a different product from ClamWin.


I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the 
Declude Virus list:
"I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are 
recorded -

here are some sample scan times against the same email -
2062ms Clamscan
468ms Mcafee scan.exe
171ms fprot

These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the 
same against other emails.


Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms 
against all emails it sees.  That is like a factor of 10 faster than 
fprot its closest performance competitor.  Since its free and 
w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice  :)


It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for 
AVG -  "


-Nick

  




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Darin Cox



You can still get defs (for now at least), but 
without a valid current license it wouldn't be legal.
Darin.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Nick 
Hayer 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Sorry but I have not been keeping up w/this thread - we no 
longer can use the desktop fpcmd.exe as we have been w/Declude without paying 
alot more $$?  Can we use the version we have and still get 
defs?-NickMatt wrote: 
F-Prot 
  doesn't care.  They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail servers, they do 
  it through desktop software.  F-Prot now has a software product for 
  Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking gateway service offering.  
  Considering how cheap the client is, losing those sales is insubstantial to 
  them.  It is true that they could have charged something more reasonable, 
  especially considering that none of us are getting rich doing this stuff and 
  every extra penny spent comes out of our pockets and not that of our clients, 
  but so be it.  Most probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a 
  couple of hundred dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is 
  all the same in effect.MattDave Beckstrom wrote: 
  




I think everyone on this list 
should email them telling them that you are not renewing.  I don’t 
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose.  If 100 
people email them it may wake them up.  I wouldn’t hold my breath on 
that, but it can’t hurt to try.








From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net 
WebmasterSent: Monday, 
July 17, 2006 1:37 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
Licensing

we're looking into 
changing now also - there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those 
rates..

I just do not 
understand why greed always has to set in when a product comes out that 
works great and is hassle free.  We've never had to contact them in the 
5-6 years of using them for any issues at all.

 
Sincerely,Randy ArmbrechtGlobal Web 
Solutions, Inc.804-346-5300 x112877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112http://globalweb.net



 

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Dave 
  BeckstromSent: Monday, 
  July 17, 2006 2:22 PMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  F-Prot Licensing
  I sent an email to F-Prot 
  telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  
  They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and 
  audios.
  
  They are going to lose a lot 
  of customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from 
  a lot of customers instead of no money from a few 
  customers.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: Monday, July 
  17, 2006 9:25 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  F-Prot Licensing
  
  
  Clamav with the runclamd 
  service.
  
  
  
  Free. Fast. and the 
  Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures.
  

- Original Message - 


From: Markus 
Gufler 

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 


Sent: 
Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
    
Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing


This pricing is just another way of saying "Go 
Away".
Suggestions?

Markus
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Hayer





Sorry but I have not been keeping up w/this thread - we no longer can
use the desktop fpcmd.exe as we have been w/Declude without paying alot
more $$?  Can we use the version we have and still get defs?

-Nick

Matt wrote:

  
F-Prot doesn't care.  They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail
servers, they do it through desktop software.  F-Prot now has a
software product for Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking
gateway service offering.  Considering how cheap the client is, losing
those sales is insubstantial to them.  It is true that they could have
charged something more reasonable, especially considering that none of
us are getting rich doing this stuff and every extra penny spent comes
out of our pockets and not that of our clients, but so be it.  Most
probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a couple of hundred
dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is all the same
in effect.
  
Matt
  
  
  
Dave Beckstrom wrote:
  







I think everyone on
this list
should email them telling them that you are not renewing.  I don’t
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose.  If 100
people email them it may wake them up.  I wouldn’t hold my breath on
that, but it can’t hurt to try.
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
Sent: Monday, July
17,
2006 1:37
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
    Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

 
we're
looking into changing now also -
there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates..
 
I just do
not understand why greed always
has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle
free.  We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them
for
any issues at all.
 
 
Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net

 



 


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 2:22
PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
  I sent an email to
F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They
replied
back basically saying they didn’t care and audios.
   
  They are going to lose
a lot of
customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a
lot
of customers instead of no money from a few customers.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
  Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 9:25
AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
  
   
  
  Clamav with the runclamd
service.
  
  
   
  
  
  Free. Fast. and the
Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.
  
  

- Original Message
- 


From: Markus
Gufler 


To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 


Sent: Friday,
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
    
    
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing


 

This pricing is just another
way of saying "Go
Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Hayer




Don Brown wrote:

  What is the URL to Brian Burns' port?
  

http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/

-Nick


  

Monday, July 17, 2006, 2:05:34 PM, Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
NH> David Barker wrote:
  
  

   Declude has
this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables
customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin
  

  
  NH> 
NH> Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd  which is wicked fast [and
NH> free]. This is a different product from ClamWin.

NH> I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the 
NH> Declude Virus list:
NH> "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are 
NH> recorded -
NH> here are some sample scan times against the same email -
NH> 2062ms Clamscan
NH> 468ms Mcafee scan.exe
NH> 171ms fprot

NH> These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the
NH> same against other emails.

NH> Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms 
NH> against all emails it sees.  That is like a factor of 10 faster than 
NH> fprot its closest performance competitor.  Since its free and 
NH> w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice  :)

NH> It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG -  "

NH> -Nick

  
  


  

  
  

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Kevin Bilbee
So it seems that market forces are not causing the price to drop. It is causing 
the price to increase. There are ever more players in the antivirus market but 
pricing continues to go up. The market force of "absolute need for antivirus on 
the mail server" is outweighing the number of companies supplying antivirus 
command line scanners. 


What is the breaking point.


Kevin Bilbee





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> 
> > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
> > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
> > updates?
> 
> The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-
> Prot.
> They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Chris Asaro
Your purchase of the security suite includes AVG and all definitions, making
it the best bang for the buck out there.

Chris 
 
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> Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
> to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
> updates?

The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Declude Suite now includes an integrated AVG scanner as part of the price of
the Suite.

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"


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> 
> > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
> > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
> > updates?
> 
> The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread AlamoHost Admin

Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
updates?


The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Matt




F-Prot doesn't care.  They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail
servers, they do it through desktop software.  F-Prot now has a
software product for Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking
gateway service offering.  Considering how cheap the client is, losing
those sales is insubstantial to them.  It is true that they could have
charged something more reasonable, especially considering that none of
us are getting rich doing this stuff and every extra penny spent comes
out of our pockets and not that of our clients, but so be it.  Most
probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a couple of hundred
dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is all the same
in effect.

Matt



Dave Beckstrom wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  I think everyone on
this list
should email them telling them that you are not renewing.  I don’t
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose.  If 100
people email them it may wake them up.  I wouldn’t hold my breath on
that, but it can’t hurt to try.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
  Sent: Monday, July 17,
2006 1:37
PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
  
   
  we're
looking into changing now also -
there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates..
   
  I just do
not understand why greed always
has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle
free.  We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them
for
any issues at all.
   
   
  Sincerely,
  
Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
  http://globalweb.net
  
   
  
  
  
 
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 2:22
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
I sent an email to
F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They
replied
back basically saying they didn’t care and audios.
 
They are going to lose
a lot of
customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a
lot
of customers instead of no money from a few customers.
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 9:25
AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

 

Clamav with the runclamd
service.


 


Free. Fast. and the
Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.


  
  - Original Message
- 
  
  
  From: Markus
Gufler 
  
  
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  
  
  
  Sent: Friday,
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
      
  
  Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
  
  
   
  
  This pricing is just another
way of saying "Go
Away".
  Suggestions?
   
  Markus

  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Don Brown
What is the URL to Brian Burns' port?


Monday, July 17, 2006, 2:05:34 PM, Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
NH> David Barker wrote:
>>  Declude has
>> this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables
>> customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin
NH> 
NH> Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd  which is wicked fast [and
NH> free]. This is a different product from ClamWin.

NH> I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the 
NH> Declude Virus list:
NH> "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are 
NH> recorded -
NH> here are some sample scan times against the same email -
NH> 2062ms Clamscan
NH> 468ms Mcafee scan.exe
NH> 171ms fprot

NH> These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the
NH> same against other emails.

NH> Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms 
NH> against all emails it sees.  That is like a factor of 10 faster than 
NH> fprot its closest performance competitor.  Since its free and 
NH> w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice  :)

NH> It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG -  "

NH> -Nick

>>   


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Don Brown
Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need
to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition
updates?

Monday, July 17, 2006, 1:32:29 PM, David Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DB> Just a comment on this Licensing thread

DB> [Snip]

DB> Not to mention AVG which is built into Declude Security Suite, which
DB> hopefully customers will now begin to really understand the value and
DB> financial benefits to this integration.

DB>[Snip]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Beckstrom








I think everyone on this list
should email them telling them that you are not renewing.  I don’t
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose.  If 100
people email them it may wake them up.  I wouldn’t hold my breath on
that, but it can’t hurt to try.

 

 

 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing



 

we're looking into changing now also -
there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates..

 

I just do not understand why greed always
has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle
free.  We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them for
any issues at all.

 

 

Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



 






 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

I sent an email to F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They replied
back basically saying they didn’t care and audios.

 

They are going to lose a lot of
customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot
of customers instead of no money from a few customers.

 

 

 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25
AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing



 



Clamav with the runclamd service.





 





Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.







- Original Message - 





From: Markus Gufler 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Friday,
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing





 



This pricing is just another way of saying "Go
Away".

Suggestions?

 

Markus




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Hayer

David Barker wrote:

 Declude has
this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables
customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin


Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd  which is wicked fast [and 
free]. This is a different product from ClamWin.


I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the 
Declude Virus list:
"I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are 
recorded -

here are some sample scan times against the same email -
2062ms Clamscan
468ms Mcafee scan.exe
171ms fprot

These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the 
same against other emails.


Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms 
against all emails it sees.  That is like a factor of 10 faster than 
fprot its closest performance competitor.  Since its free and 
w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice  :)


It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG -  "

-Nick

  



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)








Actually, it looks like they now view us
as direct competition to their AVES service and therefore want us to go away.

 

Maybe some McCrappy exec is now working
for F-Prot.

 

Very sad.

 



John T

eServices For You

 

"Seek, and ye shall
find!"



 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006
11:22 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

 

I sent an email to F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They replied
back basically saying they didn’t care and audios.

 

They are going to lose a lot of
customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot
of customers instead of no money from a few customers.

 

 

 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006
9:25 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing



 



Clamav with the runclamd service.





 





Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.







- Original Message - 





From: Markus Gufler 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Friday, July 14,
 2006 5:33 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing





 



This pricing is just another way of saying "Go
Away".

Suggestions?

 

Markus




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster



we're looking into changing now also - there's no way we 
can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates..
 
I just do not understand why greed always has to set in 
when a product comes out that works great and is hassle free.  We've never 
had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them for any issues at 
all.
 

Sincerely,Randy ArmbrechtGlobal 
Web Solutions, Inc.804-346-5300 x112877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112http://globalweb.net
 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
  BeckstromSent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  
  
  I sent an email to F-Prot 
  telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They 
  replied back basically saying they didn’t care and 
  audios.
   
  They are going to lose a lot of 
  customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot 
  of customers instead of no money from a few 
  customers.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: Monday, July 17, 
  2006 9:25 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
   
  
  Clamav with the runclamd 
  service.
  
   
  
  Free. Fast. and the 
  Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures.
  

- Original Message - 


From: Markus Gufler 


To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 


Sent: Friday, 
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
    
Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

 
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go 
Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread David Barker
Just a comment on this Licensing thread

F-Prot like all virus companies charge the extra $ because of the different
process used when scanning email as opposed to regular scanning. Declude has
this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables
customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin to scan their email in
the same way, as virus companies mail server versions. 

Not to mention AVG which is built into Declude Security Suite, which
hopefully customers will now begin to really understand the value and
financial benefits to this integration.

David B
www.declude.com







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing



I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of
their price change.  They replied back basically saying they didn't care and
audios.

 

They are going to lose a lot of customers.  I guess they would rather not
have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few
customers.

 

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

 

Clamav with the runclamd service.

 

Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures.

- Original Message - 

From: Markus Gufler <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM

    Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

 

This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".

Suggestions?

 

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Beckstrom








I sent an email to F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change.  They replied back
basically saying they didn’t care and audios.

 

They are going to lose a lot of
customers.  I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of
customers instead of no money from a few customers.

 

 

 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25
AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing



 



Clamav with the runclamd service.





 





Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.







- Original Message - 





From: Markus Gufler 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Friday,
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM





Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing





 



This pricing is just another way of saying "Go
Away".

Suggestions?

 

Markus




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-17 Thread Scott Fisher



Clamav with the runclamd service.
 
Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish 
signatures.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markus Gufler 
  
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  
  This 
  pricing is just another way of saying "Go 
Away".
  Suggestions?
   
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-15 Thread Don Brown
All of these folks must think that the ISP business is high margin and
we're just looking for ways to reduce taxes by paying all of these
exorbitant fees.  A mind is such a terrible thing to waste . . .


Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:59:38 PM, John T (Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JTL> 
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL> Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy.
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL> John T
JTL>   
JTL> eServices For You
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL> "Seek, and ye shall find!"
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL> -Original Message-
JTL>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran 
Jovanovic
JTL>  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40 PM
JTL>  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
JTL>  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL> As my kids have become fond of saying
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL> “This sucks”
JTL>   
JTL>  
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL> Goran Jovanovic
JTL>   
JTL> Omega Network Solutions
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL>   
JTL>   
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-15 Thread Don Brown
Let us know what you find, please.


Friday, July 14, 2006, 5:48:25 PM, Heimir Eidskrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HE> Markus Gufler wrote:
>> This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
>> Suggestions?
>>  
>> Markus
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HE> I am going away for sure.
HE> Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner.
HE> There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular
HE> version besides the license.

HE> Its a rip off.

HE> I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter.

HE> I guess I will be busy finding replacements.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Title: Message








Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy.

 



John T

eServices For You

 

"Seek, and ye shall
find!"



 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

 

As my kids have become fond of saying

 

“This sucks”

 



Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions










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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Title: Message








As my kids have become fond of saying

 

“This sucks”

 



Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions








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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Michael Jaworski
Title: Message



Thanks 
for the heads up. Saved me from a heart attack when I went to renew in 
August.  I would swear something is following me around related to major 
price shifts. Webtrends, Lyris, iMail and now my favorite AV product F-Prot. 
 Guess I will be checking the docs and especially the archives 
for ClamAV and AVG which I have ignored. Pay back 

 
Mike

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Heimir Eidskrem

Markus Gufler wrote:

This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus


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I am going away for sure.
Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner.
There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular 
version besides the license.


Its a rip off.

I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter.

I guess I will be busy finding replacements.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread David Barker



4.2.20 With integrated AVG and included with the 
Service Agreement / Subscription
David B
www.declude.com


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declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
Licensing

This 
pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Markus Gufler



Is "etc" a little one byte special ASCII-char who will 
disable any blocking mechanism in declude junkmail?
 
Markus
 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: 
  Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:26 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license,  DNS server 
  to replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and address 
  validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many sleepless 
  nights, etc., etc., etc.MattGary Steiner wrote: 
  Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   $1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
  
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/


F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers

To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
on www.declude.com   and www.mailenable.com
 .

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers, please visit our order form
  and take a look at our price
lists  .

NB: Administrators should read question 113
  and question
114   in the
FAQ section of our Windows support pages
  before installing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.

 
 
Andrew 8)
 


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	From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Kevin Bilbee
	Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
	To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
	Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing



	When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?

	 

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

	Number of Users

 

Annual license fee

	1-24

 

US$ 269

	25-49

 

US$ 359

	50-99

 

US$ 449

	100-199

 

US$ 719

	200-299

 

US$ 989

	300-399

 

US$ 1259

	400-499

 

US$ 1529

	500-749

 

US$ 1799

	750-999

 

US$ 2069

	1000-1999

 

US$ 2519

	2000-2999

 

US$ 2969

	3000-3999

 

US$ 3419

	4000-4999

 

US$ 3869

	5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

	 

	 

	Kevin Bilbee
	Network Administrator
	Standard Abrasives, Inc.
	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
	
	Changing the way industry works. 



	 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Markus Gufler



This 
pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Matt




You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license,  DNS server to
replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and
address validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many
sleepless nights, etc., etc., etc.

Matt


Gary Steiner wrote:

  Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   $1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
  
  
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/


F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers	

To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
on www.declude.com   and www.mailenable.com
 .

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers, please visit our order form
  and take a look at our price
lists  .

NB: Administrators should read question 113
  and question
114   in the
FAQ section of our Windows support pages
  before installing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.

 
 
Andrew 8)
 


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	From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Kevin Bilbee
	Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
	To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
	Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
	
	

	When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?

	 

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

	Number of Users

 

Annual license fee

	1-24

 

US$ 269

	25-49

 

US$ 359

	50-99

 

US$ 449

	100-199

 

US$ 719

	200-299

 

US$ 989

	300-399

 

US$ 1259

	400-499

 

US$ 1529

	500-749

 

US$ 1799

	750-999

 

US$ 2069

	1000-1999

 

US$ 2519

	2000-2999

 

US$ 2969

	3000-3999

 

US$ 3419

	4000-4999

 

US$ 3869

	5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

	 

	 

	Kevin Bilbee
	Network Administrator
	Standard Abrasives, Inc.
	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
	
	Changing the way industry works. 
	
	

	 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Matt




This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

  
  
  

  I hadn't noticed that before. 
This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is
correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the
corporate licences available:
   
  http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
  
  F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
  To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a
Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers
license is required. This license category differs from the general
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it
covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for
Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail
gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network,
either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.
  High-quality, efficient virus scanning is
essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for
viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping
the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server.
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line
Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server
software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the
software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and
  www.mailenable.com.
  If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a
look at our price
lists.
  NB: Administrators should read question
113 and question
114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages
before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
   
   
  Andrew 8)
   
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing



When did Frisk change the licensing for
F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of
users pricing?
 

  

  
  F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
  


  
  

  



Number
of Users


 


Annual
license fee

  
  



1-24


 


US$ 269

  
  



25-49


 


US$ 359

  
  



50-99


 


US$ 449

  
  



100-199


 


US$ 719

  
  



200-299


 


US$ 989

  
  



300-399


 


US$
1259

  
  



400-499


 


US$
1529

  
  



500-749


 


US$
1799

  
  



750-999


 


US$
2069

  
  



1000-1999


 


US$
2519

  
  



2000-2999


 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Gary Steiner
Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   
$1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual 
License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a 
Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
> 
> I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
> yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
> describes the corporate licences available:
>  
> http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
> 
> 
> F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers
> 
> To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
> Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
> category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
> corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
> does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
> servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
> services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.
> 
> High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
> E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
> The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
> and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
> Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
> with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
> Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
> on www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/>  and www.mailenable.com
> <http://www.mailenable.com/> .
> 
> If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
> Servers, please visit our order form
> <https://secure.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/buy>  and take a look at our price
> lists <http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_links.html> .
> 
> NB: Administrators should read question 113
> <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/113.html>  and question
> 114 <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/114.html>  in the
> FAQ section of our Windows support pages
> <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/>  before installing F-Prot
> Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
> 
>  
>  
> Andrew 8)
>  
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Bilbee
>   Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
>   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
>
>
> 
>   When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
> mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?
> 
>
> 
> F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
> 
>   Number of Users
> 
>  
> 
> Annual license fee
> 
>   1-24
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 269
> 
>   25-49
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 359
> 
>   50-99
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 449
> 
>   100-199
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 719
> 
>   200-299
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 989
> 
>   300-399
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1259
> 
>   400-499
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1529
> 
>   500-749
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1799
> 
>   750-999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2069
> 
>   1000-1999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2519
> 
>   2000-2999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2969
> 
>   3000-3999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 3419
> 
>   4000-4999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 3869
> 
>   5000-5999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 4499
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   Kevin Bilbee
>   Network Administrator
>   Standard Abrasives, Inc.
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
>   Changing the way industry works. 
>
>
> 
>
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty 
darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that 
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail 
Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This 
license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for 
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: 
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail 
relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a 
network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for 
any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to 
spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network 
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party 
mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use 
the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com.

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for 
Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at 
our price 
lists.

NB: Administrators should read question 113 
and question 
114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before 
installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
 
 
Andrew 8)
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: 
  Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  
  
  When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now 
  have a mail server license for windows on number of users 
  pricing?
   
  


  
F-Prot 
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

  

  
  


  Number 
  of Users

   

  Annual 
  license fee
  


  1-24

   

  US$ 
  269
  


  25-49

   

  US$ 
  359
  


  50-99

   

  US$ 
  449
  


  100-199

   

  US$ 
  719
  


  200-299

   

  US$ 
  989
  


  300-399

   

  US$ 
  1259
  


  400-499

   

  US$ 
  1529
  


  500-749

   

  US$ 
  1799
  


  750-999

   

  US$ 
  2069
  


  1000-1999

   

  US$ 
  2519
  


  2000-2999

   

  US$ 
  2969
  


  3000-3999

   

  US$ 
  3419
  


  4000-4999

   

  US$ 
  3869
  


  5000-5999

   

  US$ 
  4499
   
   
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  BilbeeNetwork AdministratorStandard Abrasives, 
  Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Changing 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Ncl Admin
According to something I read on the Alligate Support forumn at least as
far back as March.  Interesting that they have never issued much of a press
release on it to there customer base.  Tho I licensed mine in Februrary of
this year so I'm good for a bit.



At 12:59 PM 7/14/2006 -0700, you wrote: 


When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server
license for windows on number of users pricing?

 
   

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
   
  


Number of Users
   

 
   

Annual license fee
   
   

1-24
   

 
   

US$ 269
   
   

25-49
   

 
   

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50-99
   

 
   

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100-199
   

 
   

US$ 719
   
   

200-299
   

 
   

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300-399
   

 
   

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US$ 1529
   
   

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750-999
   

 
   

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Thanks, Glenn.

Then I assume this is a case for "your mileage may vary"...

Richard's case may be more similar to yours than mine.  I don't use the
realtime scanner on my server or workstation, but I do use the automated
update.  I installed it on my workstation so that I could test scripts
and so forth, and also keep any eye on the update intervals.

As of something like 3.16c, I don't have the "must tell the GUI that
it's okay for it to fail to fetch an update once in a while problem" on
the three machines I used to have that problem on (two W2K3 and one
WXP).  I did change the environment though, because to prevent issues on
one of the servers, I instituted a scripted fetch of the updates for
multiple times per day.  The workstation continues to only use the
F-Prot tool and GUI.

Andrew 8)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn \ WCNet
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> 
> 3.16f doesn't get hung-up on updates any *less* than other 
> versions did.
> 
> G.Z.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot
> 
> 
> Richard, are you using the latest version?  V3.16f was released on
> Jan-09-2006.
> 
> http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/060106_release_win316f.html
> 
> Some previous version I used did the same thing, but I think 
> that F-Prot
> fixed this issue.
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
>  
> 
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> > 
> > A lot of times my server has an error on it that it 
> > encountered an error while trying to update F-Prot and I hit 
> > OK and then it goes ahead and updates...is there a way to 
> > automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and update...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard Farris
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
3.16f doesn't get hung-up on updates any *less* than other versions did.

G.Z.


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From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


Richard, are you using the latest version?  V3.16f was released on
Jan-09-2006.

http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/060106_release_win316f.html

Some previous version I used did the same thing, but I think that F-Prot
fixed this issue.

Andrew 8)

 

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> 
> A lot of times my server has an error on it that it 
> encountered an error while trying to update F-Prot and I hit 
> OK and then it goes ahead and updates...is there a way to 
> automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and update...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Farris
> Ethixs Online
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Richard, are you using the latest version?  V3.16f was released on
Jan-09-2006.

http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/060106_release_win316f.html

Some previous version I used did the same thing, but I think that F-Prot
fixed this issue.

Andrew 8)

 

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> 
> A lot of times my server has an error on it that it 
> encountered an error while trying to update F-Prot and I hit 
> OK and then it goes ahead and updates...is there a way to 
> automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and update...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Farris
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Erik
Simple BAT File:
-

C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /INTERNET /QUIT /HIDDEN

-

We do not use a BAT file, it's just a command line in the Windows Task
Scheduler

-Erik

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How do you write that in a bat file?

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1600 Hwy 17 South
North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


Hi Richard,
We use a scheduled task in Windows.  We've removed the Scheduler from FPROT
and use this command line:

"C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /INTERNET /QUIT /HIDDEN

And we run that task every 4 hours.  No errors as of yet on our end as we
have experienced the same as you have with using FPROT's scheduler.

-Erik


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


A lot of times my server has an error on it that it encountered an error 
while trying to update F-Prot and I hit OK and then it goes ahead and 
updates...is there a way to automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and 
update...



Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
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1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Samuel J Stanaitis
Was wondering if this was a common thing... I'll give that a shot.

Cheers,
Sam
 
Samuel J Stanaitis, Network Administrator
Decorative Product Source, Inc.
 

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How do you write that in a bat file?

Kevin Shimwell
Link Brokers Group, Inc.
1600 Hwy 17 South
North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
Phone: 843-663-1004
Fax: 843-663-1007
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


Hi Richard,
We use a scheduled task in Windows.  We've removed the Scheduler from FPROT
and use this command line:

"C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /INTERNET /QUIT /HIDDEN

And we run that task every 4 hours.  No errors as of yet on our end as we
have experienced the same as you have with using FPROT's scheduler.

-Erik


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


A lot of times my server has an error on it that it encountered an error 
while trying to update F-Prot and I hit OK and then it goes ahead and 
updates...is there a way to automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and 
update...



Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
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1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Kevin Shimwell

How do you write that in a bat file?

Kevin Shimwell
Link Brokers Group, Inc.
1600 Hwy 17 South
North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
Phone: 843-663-1004
Fax: 843-663-1007
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


Hi Richard,
We use a scheduled task in Windows.  We've removed the Scheduler from FPROT
and use this command line:

"C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /INTERNET /QUIT /HIDDEN

And we run that task every 4 hours.  No errors as of yet on our end as we
have experienced the same as you have with using FPROT's scheduler.

-Erik


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


A lot of times my server has an error on it that it encountered an error 
while trying to update F-Prot and I hit OK and then it goes ahead and 
updates...is there a way to automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and 
update...



Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot

2006-01-31 Thread Erik
Hi Richard,
We use a scheduled task in Windows.  We've removed the Scheduler from FPROT
and use this command line:

"C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /INTERNET /QUIT /HIDDEN

And we run that task every 4 hours.  No errors as of yet on our end as we
have experienced the same as you have with using FPROT's scheduler.

-Erik


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot


A lot of times my server has an error on it that it encountered an error 
while trying to update F-Prot and I hit OK and then it goes ahead and 
updates...is there a way to automatically say "OK" so it will go ahead and 
update...



Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2006-01-05 Thread John T \(Lists\)
This really belongs on the Virus list.

I finally just got logged into their server and am downloading now.

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:05 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> FRISK has just updated F-Prot for Windows to 3.16e and this purports to
> include enhanced scanning capability for malformed WMF that appear as
> other graphic formats.
> 
> The subscription login server is down with HTTP error 500 again.
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> >
> > I got the following from F-Prot technical support at 6 AM
> > this morning:
> >
> > "Unfortunately we are experiencing some problems with our
> > servers due to extensive traffic. These matters are being
> > looked into as we speak.  We apologize for the inconvenience
> > and ask you to try again in about an hour."
> >
> > The problem seems to be fixed, as I was finally able to
> > download the new version with no delays from their web site.
> >
> > Gary Steiner
> >
> >
> >   Original Message 
> > > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:20 PM
> > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > >
> > > Same problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin Bilbee
> > >   -Original Message-
> > >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > Richard Farris
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> > >   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > >   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > >
> > >
> > >   Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new
> > > update and I have been trying all day to get there to
> > update with no
> > > luck...anybody else see this?
> > >
> > >   Richard Farris
> > >   Ethixs Online
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2006-01-04 Thread Gary Steiner
Also the press release that they circulated said 3.16d, but the link on their 
web site says 3.16e.


  Original Message 
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:08 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> FRISK has just updated F-Prot for Windows to 3.16e and this purports to
> include enhanced scanning capability for malformed WMF that appear as
> other graphic formats.
> 
> The subscription login server is down with HTTP error 500 again.
> 
> Andrew 8) 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > 
> > I got the following from F-Prot technical support at 6 AM 
> > this morning:
> > 
> > "Unfortunately we are experiencing some problems with our 
> > servers due to extensive traffic. These matters are being 
> > looked into as we speak.  We apologize for the inconvenience 
> > and ask you to try again in about an hour."
> > 
> > The problem seems to be fixed, as I was finally able to 
> > download the new version with no delays from their web site.
> > 
> > Gary Steiner
> > 
> > 
> >  -------- Original Message 
> > > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:20 PM
> > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > > 
> > > Same problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kevin Bilbee
> > >   -Original Message-
> > >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> > Richard Farris
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> > >   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > >   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new 
> > > update and I have been trying all day to get there to 
> > update with no 
> > > luck...anybody else see this?
> > > 
> > >   Richard Farris
> > >   Ethixs Online
> > >   1.270.247. Office
> > >   1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
> > >   "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
> > 
> >


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2006-01-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
FRISK has just updated F-Prot for Windows to 3.16e and this purports to
include enhanced scanning capability for malformed WMF that appear as
other graphic formats.

The subscription login server is down with HTTP error 500 again.

Andrew 8) 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> I got the following from F-Prot technical support at 6 AM 
> this morning:
> 
> "Unfortunately we are experiencing some problems with our 
> servers due to extensive traffic. These matters are being 
> looked into as we speak.  We apologize for the inconvenience 
> and ask you to try again in about an hour."
> 
> The problem seems to be fixed, as I was finally able to 
> download the new version with no delays from their web site.
> 
> Gary Steiner
> 
> 
>   Original Message 
> > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:20 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > 
> > Same problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
> > 
> > 
> > Kevin Bilbee
> >   -Original Message-
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Richard Farris
> >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> >   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> >   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> > 
> > 
> >   Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new 
> > update and I have been trying all day to get there to 
> update with no 
> > luck...anybody else see this?
> > 
> >   Richard Farris
> >   Ethixs Online
> >   1.270.247. Office
> >   1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
> >   "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2005-11-29 Thread Gary Steiner
I got the following from F-Prot technical support at 6 AM this morning:

"Unfortunately we are experiencing some problems with our servers due to 
extensive traffic. These matters are being looked into as we speak.  We 
apologize for the inconvenience and ask you to try again in about an hour."

The problem seems to be fixed, as I was finally able to download the new 
version with no delays from their web site.

Gary Steiner


  Original Message 
> From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> Same problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
> 
> 
> Kevin Bilbee
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Farris
>   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
>   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
>   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> 
>   Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new update
> and I have been trying all day to get there to update with no luck...anybody
> else see this?
> 
>   Richard Farris
>   Ethixs Online
>   1.270.247. Office
>   1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
>   "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2005-11-29 Thread Ncl Admin
I just opened a window and sat there it finally downloaded took a  while.



At 05:19 PM 11/28/2005 -0800, Kevin Bilbee wrote: 

Same problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
  


Kevin Bilbee
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new update and I have been trying all day to get there to update with no luck...anybody else see this?


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
"Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet





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re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2005-11-28 Thread Gary Steiner
Same here.  I've been trying for over 8 hours straight with no luck.

Gary Steiner



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> From: "Richard Farris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:49 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot
> 
> Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just came out with a new update and 
> I have been trying all day to get there to update with no luck...anybody else 
> see this?
> 
> Richard Farris
> Ethixs Online
> 1.270.247. Office
> 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
> "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2005-11-28 Thread John T \(Lists\)









I have not tried the update, but I am
using F-Prot on 4 servers.

 

I just downloaded it onto one of my
servers, so at least from Southern California I can get in.

 



John T

eServices For You



 



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005
4:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

 



Anyone using F-Prot for
antivirus...they just came out with a new update and I have been trying all day
to get there to update with no luck...anybody else see this?






Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
"Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet












RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-prot

2005-11-28 Thread Kevin Bilbee



Same 
problem here. I get an "Internal Server Error"
 
 
Kevin 
Bilbee

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Richard 
  FarrisSent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  F-prot
  Anyone using F-Prot for antivirus...they just 
  came out with a new update and I have been trying all day to get there to 
  update with no luck...anybody else see this?
  Richard FarrisEthixs Online1.270.247. 
  Office1.800.548.3877 Tech Support"Crossroads to a Cleaner 
  Internet


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Darin Cox
I'm still on an older version of f-protjust before the /archive switch
changed to /archive=5.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
F-Prot.exe


Hi Darin,

Should you not be using the /ARCHIVE=5 to tell it how many levels to
scan?


 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-
> Prot.exe
>
> Hmmm...I don't know why that would be there...Scott, can you comment?
>
> Anyway, here's what we use:
>
> SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM
/ARCHIVE
> /NOBOOT /DUMB /AI /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
> VIRUSCODE 3
> VIRUSCODE 6
> VIRUSCODE 8
>
> Note that we use the /AI, /PACKED, and /SERVER switches, which some
might
> not want to use.
>
> Also, we identify suspicious files with VIRUSCODE 8, which some may
not
> want
> to do.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
> F-Prot.exe
>
>
> According to Declude Virus manual states f-prot.exe in their example.
I
> did
> not know or see that recommendation?
>
> -Don
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
> F-Prot.exe
>
>
> Don't you want to be using fpcmd anyway?  That's the recommended
scanner
> to
> use with Declude.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
F-Prot.exe
>
>
> I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed
and
> wanted to give folks a heads up here.
>
> Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows
(fp-win_316_m)
> and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and
noticed a
> bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough
was
> missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and
all
> back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at
F-Prot
> let
> us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have
slipped
> through last 36 hours.
>
> -Don
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Darin,

Should you not be using the /ARCHIVE=5 to tell it how many levels to
scan?


 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-
> Prot.exe
> 
> Hmmm...I don't know why that would be there...Scott, can you comment?
> 
> Anyway, here's what we use:
> 
> SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM
/ARCHIVE
> /NOBOOT /DUMB /AI /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
> VIRUSCODE 3
> VIRUSCODE 6
> VIRUSCODE 8
> 
> Note that we use the /AI, /PACKED, and /SERVER switches, which some
might
> not want to use.
> 
> Also, we identify suspicious files with VIRUSCODE 8, which some may
not
> want
> to do.
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
> F-Prot.exe
> 
> 
> According to Declude Virus manual states f-prot.exe in their example.
I
> did
> not know or see that recommendation?
> 
> -Don
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
> F-Prot.exe
> 
> 
> Don't you want to be using fpcmd anyway?  That's the recommended
scanner
> to
> use with Declude.
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
F-Prot.exe
> 
> 
> I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed
and
> wanted to give folks a heads up here.
> 
> Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows
(fp-win_316_m)
> and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and
noticed a
> bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough
was
> missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and
all
> back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at
F-Prot
> let
> us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have
slipped
> through last 36 hours.
> 
> -Don
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm...I don't know why that would be there...Scott, can you comment?

Anyway, here's what we use:

SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE
/NOBOOT /DUMB /AI /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
VIRUSCODE 3
VIRUSCODE 6
VIRUSCODE 8

Note that we use the /AI, /PACKED, and /SERVER switches, which some might
not want to use.

Also, we identify suspicious files with VIRUSCODE 8, which some may not want
to do.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
F-Prot.exe


According to Declude Virus manual states f-prot.exe in their example. I did
not know or see that recommendation?

-Don

- Original Message - 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing
F-Prot.exe


Don't you want to be using fpcmd anyway?  That's the recommended scanner to
use with Declude.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe


I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed and
wanted to give folks a heads up here.

Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows (fp-win_316_m)
and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and noticed a
bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough was
missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and all
back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at F-Prot let
us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have slipped
through last 36 hours.

-Don

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Don Schreiner
I missed that in the release notes - ouch! So... the fpcmd.exe should be 
used as Darin stated. I did not notice in the Declude Virus manual when 
reviewing this morning, just double checked and sure is there as one of the 
2 choices depending on version. All back to normal and thanks guys.

-Don


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing 
F-Prot.exe


They certainly could have made it more noticeable, but

>From the Release Notes:

The DOS scanner is now no longer installed on NT/2000/XP/2003.
If version 3.16 is installed as an upgrade then the previous DOS
version is removed.  The DOS scanner is not suitable for use on
the NTFS file system, now more popular as the result of increased
use of Windows XP.  The Command-Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) should be
used instead of the DOS scanner.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe


> I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed and
> wanted to give folks a heads up here.
>
> Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows (fp-win_316_m)
> and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and noticed a
> bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough was
> missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and all
> back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at F-Prot
let
> us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have slipped
> through last 36 hours.
>
> -Don
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Don Schreiner
According to Declude Virus manual states f-prot.exe in their example. I did 
not know or see that recommendation?

-Don

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing 
F-Prot.exe


Don't you want to be using fpcmd anyway?  That's the recommended scanner to
use with Declude.

Darin.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe


I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed and
wanted to give folks a heads up here.

Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows (fp-win_316_m)
and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and noticed a
bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough was
missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and all
back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at F-Prot let
us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have slipped
through last 36 hours.

-Don

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Jeff Pereira
They certainly could have made it more noticeable, but

>From the Release Notes:

The DOS scanner is now no longer installed on NT/2000/XP/2003.
If version 3.16 is installed as an upgrade then the previous DOS
version is removed.  The DOS scanner is not suitable for use on
the NTFS file system, now more popular as the result of increased
use of Windows XP.  The Command-Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) should be
used instead of the DOS scanner.


- Original Message -
From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe


> I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed and
> wanted to give folks a heads up here.
>
> Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows (fp-win_316_m)
> and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and noticed a
> bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough was
> missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and all
> back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at F-Prot
let
> us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have slipped
> through last 36 hours.
>
> -Don
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe

2004-11-23 Thread Darin Cox
Don't you want to be using fpcmd anyway?  That's the recommended scanner to
use with Declude.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Windows 3.16 Update Missing F-Prot.exe


I posted this to Declude.Virus, but apparently no longer subscribed and
wanted to give folks a heads up here.

Yesterday upgraded to most recent version of F-Prot Windows (fp-win_316_m)
and this morning "by chance" I checked my declude virus log and noticed a
bunch of "Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST ..." entries. Sure enough was
missing F-Prot.exe file. I rolled back to version fp-win_315b_m  and all
back to normal including install of F-Prot.exe. Wish the folks at F-Prot let
us know about this! Performing full scan now to see what may have slipped
through last 36 hours.

-Don

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-24 Thread Chuck Cahill
Thanks all. FYI, Sophos is also that way.
Chuck Cahill
YFCS, Inc
At 07:23 AM 5/24/2004 -0400, you wrote:
"Anyone else end up like this?"
Yep- when we talked to McAfee--
Make your life easier..
F-Prot: $50
Go to: http://www.F-Prot.com [Seems to be down at the moment..]
&
Grisoft-AVG server: $70
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_avg_online.php#fse
& you will have 2 scanners.
You can also add Clam AV - free open source.
http://www.clamav.net/
Regards,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-24 Thread Kami Razvan
"Anyone else end up like this?"

Yep- when we talked to McAfee-- 

Make your life easier..

F-Prot: $50

Go to: http://www.F-Prot.com [Seems to be down at the moment..]

&

Grisoft-AVG server: $70

http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_avg_online.php#fse


& you will have 2 scanners.

You can also add Clam AV - free open source.

http://www.clamav.net/


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-23 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Sounds like you talked to McAfee.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Cahill
> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> Was out of the office last week and I missed this discussion.  Here's a
> problem I've faced and maybe some of you have the right words to dish out
> when talking with the Reps.
> 
> I've contacted several companies to purchase their product for virus
> detection on IMail + Declude. Once I tell them all I need is the Command
> Line Scanner or Interface they ask if I'm running it on a Server, to which
> I have to answer yes.  At that point, they won't sell me just one copy. In
> fact, they refuse to sell me anything less than the number of mail
accounts
> I'm running.
> 
> Anyone else end up like this?
> 
> Chuck Cahill
> YFCS, Inc
> 
> At 07:10 PM 5/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >I don't know if it's 32 bit but the .dat files are on the same page and
the
> >heading they're under is "VirusScan Version 4.x (or higher) Daily
Updates."
> >So it looks like you can get the updated pattern files at the same place.
> >
> >Larry Craddock
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:40 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >
> >
> >Sure looks like a freebie to me.  http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp
> >
> >Is scan.exe a 32 bit app?
> >
> >How do you update the pattern files?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-23 Thread Chuck Cahill
Was out of the office last week and I missed this discussion.  Here's a 
problem I've faced and maybe some of you have the right words to dish out 
when talking with the Reps.

I've contacted several companies to purchase their product for virus 
detection on IMail + Declude. Once I tell them all I need is the Command 
Line Scanner or Interface they ask if I'm running it on a Server, to which 
I have to answer yes.  At that point, they won't sell me just one copy. In 
fact, they refuse to sell me anything less than the number of mail accounts 
I'm running.

Anyone else end up like this?
Chuck Cahill
YFCS, Inc
At 07:10 PM 5/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I don't know if it's 32 bit but the .dat files are on the same page and the
heading they're under is "VirusScan Version 4.x (or higher) Daily Updates."
So it looks like you can get the updated pattern files at the same place.
Larry Craddock
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
Sure looks like a freebie to me.  http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp
Is scan.exe a 32 bit app?
How do you update the pattern files?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Larry Craddock
I don't know if it's 32 bit but the .dat files are on the same page and the
heading they're under is "VirusScan Version 4.x (or higher) Daily Updates."
So it looks like you can get the updated pattern files at the same place.

Larry Craddock

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


Sure looks like a freebie to me.  http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp

Is scan.exe a 32 bit app?

How do you update the pattern files?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Joe Wolf
Sure looks like a freebie to me.  http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp

Is scan.exe a 32 bit app?

How do you update the pattern files?

Thanks!

- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


> On 18 May 2004 at 13:56, Imail Admin wrote:
>
> > I'd like to second this question.  I remember seeing a couple of
> > discussions here where people couldn't agree on which McAfee product
> > to use as the command line scanner with Declude.  And, of course, the
> > online stores always emphasize the Windows-based products.  So exactly
> > which product is it that's needed?
> scan.exe - Mcafee's commandline scanner.
> Here is a link that I just found that has what appears to be a free
> copy:
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp
> DAILYSCAN.ZIP contains the scan.exe file.
> ]
> [We purchased ours but now maybe its a freebe..]
>
> -Nick Hayer
>
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >
> >
> > > Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took
> > > forever to come back with $20+
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > >
> > > On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
> > > Aaron -
> > >
> > > If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned "My
> > > 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through CDW."
> > >
> > > We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.
> > >
> > > -Nick Hayer
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Caviglia
> > > >
> > > > On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to kill
> > > > >> additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > > > >
> > > > > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > > > > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB
> > > > > and have it scan as well?
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year
> > > > > so the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and
> > > > > Scott's responses that there are indeed reasons to have more
> > > > > than one scanner.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you all
> > > > >
> > > > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > > > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -Original Message-
> > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
> > > > >> Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM To:
> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > > > >> f-prot
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats
> > > > >>> on how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the
> > > > >>> first one missed?
> > > > >> Hi Goran,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Here are my latest stats:
> > > > >> Virus Totals:
> > > > >> 441 F-Prot
> > > > >> 412 AVG
> > > > >> 446 McAfee
> > > > >> -
> > > > >> Vunerabilities:
> > > > >> 349
> > > > >> -
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > > > >> Because of possible false pos

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Matt




See this post from a little while ago on the Virus list:

    http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09001.html

The only changes that I am aware of is that Clam-AV can approach
F-Prot's efficiency if you run the daemon and AVG became a tiny bit
slower after adding extra support for detecting encrypted archived
viruses (they call it "conservative" detection).  Everything else pales
in comparison to F-Prot when it comes to speed.  Since I'm blocking
encrypted archives that contain a banned extension, detecting a few
extra ones as viruses isn't that big of a deal (especially if I could
turn off the bounce).

If you're not using F-Prot already as one of two or more scanners, you
really have only one choice IMO.

Matt



Mike Hyslip wrote:

  I believe you can also download a trial version for f-prot for Windows, test
it out a bit and see how you like it.
At least cheap enough to see If you want to spend more :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

I has given CDW 458481 for license and then you download the program.
Yea, $20 isn't not bad, but I am so cheap, it hurts.  Also regards
another post about DOS scanner.  This command line scanner is for DOS
and Win 2000 & XP. I checked to make sure it had 32 bit mode.  See 2nd
paragraph of
http://www.networkassociates.com/us/_tier2/products/_media/mcafee/ds_com
mand_line_and_unix.pdf

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aaron J.
Caviglia
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

Even at 20 bucks its not bad

Whats the current part number John?

Thanks,
Aaron Caviglia

On May 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM, Scott Fisher wrote:

  
  
On March 18, McAfee VirusScan for DOS was CDW part number 458401, and 
it was $11.00
Of course no one wants to jump through any hoops for $11 (It probably 
costs more for CDW to process the license paperwork than $11

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies



  

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:56PM >>>
  

  

Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took

  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread John Carter
I has given CDW 458481 for license and then you download the program.
Yea, $20 isn't not bad, but I am so cheap, it hurts.  Also regards
another post about DOS scanner.  This command line scanner is for DOS
and Win 2000 & XP. I checked to make sure it had 32 bit mode.  See 2nd
paragraph of
http://www.networkassociates.com/us/_tier2/products/_media/mcafee/ds_com
mand_line_and_unix.pdf

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron J.
Caviglia
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

Even at 20 bucks its not bad

Whats the current part number John?

Thanks,
Aaron Caviglia

On May 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM, Scott Fisher wrote:

> On March 18, McAfee VirusScan for DOS was CDW part number 458401, and 
> it was $11.00
> Of course no one wants to jump through any hoops for $11 (It probably 
> costs more for CDW to process the license paperwork than $11
>
> Scott Fisher
> Director of IT
> Farm Progress Companies
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:56PM >>>
> Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took
forever
> to come back with $20+
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Mike Hyslip
I believe you can also download a trial version for f-prot for Windows, test
it out a bit and see how you like it.
At least cheap enough to see If you want to spend more :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

I has given CDW 458481 for license and then you download the program.
Yea, $20 isn't not bad, but I am so cheap, it hurts.  Also regards
another post about DOS scanner.  This command line scanner is for DOS
and Win 2000 & XP. I checked to make sure it had 32 bit mode.  See 2nd
paragraph of
http://www.networkassociates.com/us/_tier2/products/_media/mcafee/ds_com
mand_line_and_unix.pdf

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron J.
Caviglia
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

Even at 20 bucks its not bad

Whats the current part number John?

Thanks,
Aaron Caviglia

On May 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM, Scott Fisher wrote:

> On March 18, McAfee VirusScan for DOS was CDW part number 458401, and 
> it was $11.00
> Of course no one wants to jump through any hoops for $11 (It probably 
> costs more for CDW to process the license paperwork than $11
>
> Scott Fisher
> Director of IT
> Farm Progress Companies
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:56PM >>>
> Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took
forever
> to come back with $20+
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Scott Fisher
My McAfee License Grant calls the product

Mcfe ViruScan Command Line Std 
1 node

It is actually a 2 year license, with one year of Prime Support.


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 04:26PM >>>
On 18 May 2004 at 13:56, Imail Admin wrote:

> I'd like to second this question.  I remember seeing a couple of
> discussions here where people couldn't agree on which McAfee product
> to use as the command line scanner with Declude.  And, of course, the
> online stores always emphasize the Windows-based products.  So exactly
> which product is it that's needed?
scan.exe - Mcafee's commandline scanner.
Here is a link that I just found that has what appears to be a free 
copy:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp 
DAILYSCAN.ZIP contains the scan.exe file. 
]
[We purchased ours but now maybe its a freebe..]

-Nick Hayer


> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> 
> > Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took
> > forever to come back with $20+
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >
> > On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:
> >
> > > Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
> > Aaron -
> >
> > If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned "My
> > 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through CDW."
> >
> > We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.
> >
> > -Nick Hayer
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron Caviglia
> > >
> > > On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >
> > > >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to kill
> > > >> additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > > >
> > > > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > > > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB
> > > > and have it scan as well?
> > > >
> > > > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year
> > > > so the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and
> > > > Scott's responses that there are indeed reasons to have more
> > > > than one scanner.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all
> > > >
> > > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
> > > >> Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM To:
> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > > >> f-prot
> > > >>
> > > >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats
> > > >>> on how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the
> > > >>> first one missed?
> > > >> Hi Goran,
> > > >>
> > > >> Here are my latest stats:
> > > >> Virus Totals:
> > > >> 441 F-Prot
> > > >> 412 AVG
> > > >> 446 McAfee
> > > >> -
> > > >> Vunerabilities:
> > > >> 349
> > > >> -
> > > >>
> > > >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > > >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to
> > > >> rank one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage
> > > >> to have more than one is one [varies] company will always come
> > > >> out with protection for a new outbreak before another. The
> > > >> downside is cost and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an
> > > >> outstanding request to Scott to kill additional scanning once a
> > > >> scanner detects a virus..
> > > >>
> > >

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Aaron J . Caviglia
Even at 20 bucks its not bad
Whats the current part number John?
Thanks,
Aaron Caviglia
On May 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM, Scott Fisher wrote:
On March 18, McAfee VirusScan for DOS was CDW part number 458401, and 
it was $11.00
Of course no one wants to jump through any hoops for $11 (It probably 
costs more for CDW to process the license paperwork than $11

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:56PM >>>
Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took forever
to come back with $20+
Thanks,
John
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Nick Hayer
On 18 May 2004 at 13:56, Imail Admin wrote:

> I'd like to second this question.  I remember seeing a couple of
> discussions here where people couldn't agree on which McAfee product
> to use as the command line scanner with Declude.  And, of course, the
> online stores always emphasize the Windows-based products.  So exactly
> which product is it that's needed?
scan.exe - Mcafee's commandline scanner.
Here is a link that I just found that has what appears to be a free 
copy:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp
DAILYSCAN.ZIP contains the scan.exe file. 
]
[We purchased ours but now maybe its a freebe..]

-Nick Hayer


> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> 
> > Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took
> > forever to come back with $20+
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >
> > On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:
> >
> > > Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
> > Aaron -
> >
> > If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned "My
> > 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through CDW."
> >
> > We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.
> >
> > -Nick Hayer
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron Caviglia
> > >
> > > On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >
> > > >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to kill
> > > >> additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > > >
> > > > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > > > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB
> > > > and have it scan as well?
> > > >
> > > > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year
> > > > so the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and
> > > > Scott's responses that there are indeed reasons to have more
> > > > than one scanner.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all
> > > >
> > > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
> > > >> Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM To:
> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > > >> f-prot
> > > >>
> > > >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats
> > > >>> on how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the
> > > >>> first one missed?
> > > >> Hi Goran,
> > > >>
> > > >> Here are my latest stats:
> > > >> Virus Totals:
> > > >> 441 F-Prot
> > > >> 412 AVG
> > > >> 446 McAfee
> > > >> -
> > > >> Vunerabilities:
> > > >> 349
> > > >> -
> > > >>
> > > >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > > >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to
> > > >> rank one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage
> > > >> to have more than one is one [varies] company will always come
> > > >> out with protection for a new outbreak before another. The
> > > >> downside is cost and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an
> > > >> outstanding request to Scott to kill additional scanning once a
> > > >> scanner detects a virus..
> > > >>
> > > >> -Nick Hayer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite
> > > >>> low
> > > > and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Scott Fisher
On March 18, McAfee VirusScan for DOS was CDW part number 458401, and it was $11.00
Of course no one wants to jump through any hoops for $11 (It probably costs more for 
CDW to process the license paperwork than $11

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:56PM >>>
Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took forever
to come back with $20+

Thanks,
John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:

> Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
Aaron - 

If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned 
"My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through 
CDW."

We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.

-Nick Hayer
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron Caviglia
> 
> On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> >> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >
> > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and
> > have it scan as well?
> >
> > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so
> > the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> > responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one
> > scanner.
> >
> > Thank you all
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> >> 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> >> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >>
> >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >>
> >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> >>> how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> >>> missed?
> >> Hi Goran,
> >>
> >> Here are my latest stats:
> >> Virus Totals:
> >> 441F-Prot
> >> 412AVG
> >> 446McAfee
> >> -
> >> Vunerabilities:
> >> 349
> >> -
> >>
> >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank
> >> one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have
> >> more than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> >> protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> >> and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> >> Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >>
> >> -Nick Hayer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> > and
> >>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> >>> "Do
> > I
> >>> really need it?".
> >>>
> >>> Thanx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Goran Jovanovic
> >>>  The LAN Shoppe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>>> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> >>>> Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> >>>> f-prot
> >>>>
> >>>> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> > encrupted
> >>> zips.
> >>>> Otherwise they are pretty even.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> >>>> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see
> >>>> if
> > I
> >>> can
> >>>> find my price tomorrow.
> >>>>
> >>>> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> >>>> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
> > it
> >>> comes
> >>>> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Imail Admin
I'd like to second this question.  I remember seeing a couple of discussions
here where people couldn't agree on which McAfee product to use as the
command line scanner with Declude.  And, of course, the online stores always
emphasize the Windows-based products.  So exactly which product is it that's
needed?

Thanks,

Ben

- Original Message - 
From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


> Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took forever
> to come back with $20+
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
>
> On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:
>
> > Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
> Aaron -
>
> If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned
> "My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through
> CDW."
>
> We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.
>
> -Nick Hayer
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Aaron Caviglia
> >
> > On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >
> > >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> > >> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > >
> > > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and
> > > have it scan as well?
> > >
> > > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so
> > > the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> > > responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one
> > > scanner.
> > >
> > > Thank you all
> > >
> > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > >
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> > >> 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> > >> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > >>
> > >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> > >>> how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> > >>> missed?
> > >> Hi Goran,
> > >>
> > >> Here are my latest stats:
> > >> Virus Totals:
> > >> 441 F-Prot
> > >> 412 AVG
> > >> 446 McAfee
> > >> -
> > >> Vunerabilities:
> > >> 349
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank
> > >> one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have
> > >> more than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> > >> protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> > >> and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> > >> Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > >>
> > >> -Nick Hayer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> > > and
> > >>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> > >>> "Do
> > > I
> > >>> really need it?".
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanx
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  Goran Jovanovic
> > >>>  The LAN Shoppe
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -Original Message-
> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> > >>>> Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > >>>> f-prot
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I find the 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Dan Geiser
John,
Just use Froogle, http://froogle.google.com/.  There are plenty of stores
listed on there which have the product in that price range.

Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


> Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took forever
> to come back with $20+
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
>
> On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:
>
> > Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
> Aaron -
>
> If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned
> "My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through
> CDW."
>
> We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.
>
> -Nick Hayer
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Aaron Caviglia
> >
> > On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >
> > >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> > >> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > >
> > > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and
> > > have it scan as well?
> > >
> > > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so
> > > the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> > > responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one
> > > scanner.
> > >
> > > Thank you all
> > >
> > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > >
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> > >> 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> > >> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > >>
> > >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> > >>> how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> > >>> missed?
> > >> Hi Goran,
> > >>
> > >> Here are my latest stats:
> > >> Virus Totals:
> > >> 441 F-Prot
> > >> 412 AVG
> > >> 446 McAfee
> > >> -
> > >> Vunerabilities:
> > >> 349
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank
> > >> one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have
> > >> more than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> > >> protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> > >> and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> > >> Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > >>
> > >> -Nick Hayer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> > > and
> > >>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> > >>> "Do
> > > I
> > >>> really need it?".
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanx
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  Goran Jovanovic
> > >>>  The LAN Shoppe
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -Original Message-
> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> > >>>> Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > >>>> f-prot
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> > > encrupted
> > >>> zips.
> > >>>> Otherwise they are pretty even.
&

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread John Carter
Do you have a CDW product number on this?  Called and they took forever
to come back with $20+

Thanks,
John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:

> Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
Aaron - 

If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned 
"My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through 
CDW."

We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.

-Nick Hayer
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron Caviglia
> 
> On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> >> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >
> > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and
> > have it scan as well?
> >
> > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so
> > the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> > responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one
> > scanner.
> >
> > Thank you all
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> >> 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> >> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >>
> >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >>
> >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> >>> how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> >>> missed?
> >> Hi Goran,
> >>
> >> Here are my latest stats:
> >> Virus Totals:
> >> 441F-Prot
> >> 412AVG
> >> 446McAfee
> >> -
> >> Vunerabilities:
> >> 349
> >> -
> >>
> >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank
> >> one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have
> >> more than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> >> protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> >> and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> >> Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >>
> >> -Nick Hayer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> > and
> >>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> >>> "Do
> > I
> >>> really need it?".
> >>>
> >>> Thanx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Goran Jovanovic
> >>>  The LAN Shoppe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> >>>> Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> >>>> f-prot
> >>>>
> >>>> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> > encrupted
> >>> zips.
> >>>> Otherwise they are pretty even.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> >>>> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see
> >>>> if
> > I
> >>> can
> >>>> find my price tomorrow.
> >>>>
> >>>> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> >>>> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
> > it
> >>> comes
> >>>> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
> >>>> pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
> > as
> >>>> it works well
> >>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry Craddock
> >>>>
> >>>>
> 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Matt




This is a big issue for me because my second scanner is so wasteful in
comparison to my first, and during larger virus outbreaks, there's a
very clear spike in average utilization.  I don't believe that this is
being prioritized, so I suggest that you hold your request and repost
it when Scott gets back...that is if it causes you any issues.

I've given some consideration to writing a handler script myself that
would do the same thing, but I haven't gotten around to it yet :)  It
certainly can be done though.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:

  On 17 May 2004 at 23:23, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
  
  
So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with ScannerA
and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and have it scan
as well?

  
  Correct. Scott has said this is on his todo list..

-Nick Hayer

  
  
Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so the
price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one scanner.

Thank you all

 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe




  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  
For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
missed?

  
  Hi Goran,

Here are my latest stats:
Virus Totals:
441	F-Prot
412	AVG
446	McAfee
-
Vunerabilities:
349
-

I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one
particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more
than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..

-Nick Hayer




  
  
I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low

  

and


  
others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
"Do

  

I


  
really need it?".

Thanx


 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe





  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
f-prot

I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
  

  

encrupted


  
zips.


  Otherwise they are pretty even.

I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see
if
  

  

I


  
can


  find my price tomorrow.

<<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec
when
  

  

it


  
comes


  to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
  

  

as


  

  it works well
  

:)


  thanks,

Larry Craddock


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Nick Hayer
On 17 May 2004 at 23:23, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with ScannerA
> and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and have it scan
> as well?
Correct. Scott has said this is on his todo list..

-Nick Hayer

> 
> Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so the
> price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one scanner.
> 
> Thank you all
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> > 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> > [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > 
> > On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > 
> > > For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> > > how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> > > missed?
> > Hi Goran,
> > 
> > Here are my latest stats:
> > Virus Totals:
> > 441 F-Prot
> > 412 AVG
> > 446 McAfee
> > -
> > Vunerabilities:
> > 349
> > -
> > 
> > I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> > Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one
> > particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more
> > than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> > protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> > and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> > Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> > 
> > -Nick Hayer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> and
> > > others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> > > "Do
> I
> > > really need it?".
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > >
> > >  Goran Jovanovic
> > >  The LAN Shoppe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> > > > Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> > > > f-prot
> > > >
> > > > I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> encrupted
> > > zips.
> > > > Otherwise they are pretty even.
> > > >
> > > > I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> > > > Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see
> > > > if
> I
> > > can
> > > > find my price tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> > > > Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec
> > > > when
> it
> > > comes
> > > > to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
> > > > pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
> as
> > > > it works well
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Larry Craddock
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Nick Hayer
On 17 May 2004 at 20:56, Aaron J. Caviglia wrote:

> Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
Aaron - 

If you are referring to the Mcafee one for $11 - Scott mentioned 
"My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through 
CDW."

We paid the same thing off of State contract from Insight.

-Nick Hayer
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron Caviglia
> 
> On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> >> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> >> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >
> > So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with
> > ScannerA and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and
> > have it scan as well?
> >
> > Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so
> > the price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> > responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one
> > scanner.
> >
> > Thank you all
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Monday, May 17,
> >> 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
> >> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> >>
> >> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >>
> >>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on
> >>> how often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one
> >>> missed?
> >> Hi Goran,
> >>
> >> Here are my latest stats:
> >> Virus Totals:
> >> 441F-Prot
> >> 412AVG
> >> 446McAfee
> >> -
> >> Vunerabilities:
> >> 349
> >> -
> >>
> >> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> >> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank
> >> one particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have
> >> more than one is one [varies] company will always come out with
> >> protection for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost
> >> and cpu overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to
> >> Scott to kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> >>
> >> -Nick Hayer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> > and
> >>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a
> >>> "Do
> > I
> >>> really need it?".
> >>>
> >>> Thanx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Goran Jovanovic
> >>>  The LAN Shoppe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> >>>> Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM To:
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
> >>>> f-prot
> >>>>
> >>>> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> > encrupted
> >>> zips.
> >>>> Otherwise they are pretty even.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> >>>> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see
> >>>> if
> > I
> >>> can
> >>>> find my price tomorrow.
> >>>>
> >>>> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> >>>> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
> > it
> >>> comes
> >>>> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
> >>>> pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
> > as
> >>>> it works well
> >>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry Craddock
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
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> >>>> (http://www.declude.com)]
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Darin Cox
Gotcha...didn't realize there was a difference.  We have the Windows version
and use the command line scanner that comes with it.

As far as update scheduling goes, there are several links on the Declude
Tools page and in this archive to schedule periodic updates of the signature
files.  We take the simplest approach and FTP and unzip the signature files
hourly.

Darin.


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From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


Darin Cox wrote:
>The DOS version is the one with the command line scanner if that isn't
>obvious.  If you buy the Windows version, you get the DOS version as
well.

I'm pretty sure the Windows version of that command-line scanner is
32-bit and the DOS version is only 16, so there's a big reason to not
use the DOS version.  Also the Windows version easier to keep upated
since you can set the scheduler for hourly updates or whatever.  Don't
think you can do that in the DOS version but I could be wrong.


 Matt Robertson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc.  http://mysecretbase.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Matt Robertson
Darin Cox wrote:
>The DOS version is the one with the command line scanner if that isn't
>obvious.  If you buy the Windows version, you get the DOS version as
well.

I'm pretty sure the Windows version of that command-line scanner is
32-bit and the DOS version is only 16, so there's a big reason to not
use the DOS version.  Also the Windows version easier to keep upated
since you can set the scheduler for hourly updates or whatever.  Don't
think you can do that in the DOS version but I could be wrong.


 Matt Robertson   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-18 Thread Darin Cox
https://secure.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/buy

The DOS version is the one with the command line scanner if that isn't
obvious.  If you buy the Windows version, you get the DOS version as well.

Darin.


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From: "Aaron J. Caviglia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot


Where can we purchase the command line scanner?

Thanks,

Aaron Caviglia

On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

>> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
>> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
>
> So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with ScannerA
> and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and have it scan
> as well?
>
> Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so the
> price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
> responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one scanner.
>
> Thank you all
>
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
>>
>> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
>>
>>> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
>>> often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?
>> Hi Goran,
>>
>> Here are my latest stats:
>> Virus Totals:
>> 441 F-Prot
>> 412 AVG
>> 446 McAfee
>> -
>> Vunerabilities:
>> 349
>> -
>>
>> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
>> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one
>> particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more
>> than one is one [varies] company will always come out with protection
>> for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost and cpu
>> overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
>> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
>>
>> -Nick Hayer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
> and
>>> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do
> I
>>> really need it?".
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>>
>>>
>>>  Goran Jovanovic
>>>  The LAN Shoppe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17,
>>>> 2004 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
>>>> [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
>>>>
>>>> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
> encrupted
>>> zips.
>>>> Otherwise they are pretty even.
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
>>>> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if
> I
>>> can
>>>> find my price tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
> it
>>> comes
>>>> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
>>>> pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
> as
>>>> it works well
>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry Craddock
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Aaron J . Caviglia
Where can we purchase the command line scanner?
Thanks,
Aaron Caviglia
On May 17, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with ScannerA
and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and have it scan
as well?
Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so the
price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one scanner.
Thank you all
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?
Hi Goran,
Here are my latest stats:
Virus Totals:
441 F-Prot
412 AVG
446 McAfee
-
Vunerabilities:
349
-
I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one
particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more
than one is one [varies] company will always come out with protection
for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost and cpu
overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
-Nick Hayer


I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
and
others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do
I
really need it?".
Thanx
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17,
2004 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
encrupted
zips.
Otherwise they are pretty even.
I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if
I
can
find my price tomorrow.
<<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
it
comes
to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
as
it works well
:)
thanks,
Larry Craddock
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Goran Jovanovic
> For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..

So right now if you use multiple scanners when you scan with ScannerA
and it finds a virus Declude will still call ScannerB and have it scan
as well?

Scott pointed out that his McAfee was only $11.00 for the year so the
price barrier is "non-existant" and I see from your and Scott's
responses that there are indeed reasons to have more than one scanner.

Thank you all
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> > For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
> > often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?
> Hi Goran,
> 
> Here are my latest stats:
> Virus Totals:
> 441   F-Prot
> 412   AVG
> 446   McAfee
> -
> Vunerabilities:
> 349
> -
> 
> I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule.
> Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one
> particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more
> than one is one [varies] company will always come out with protection
> for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost and cpu
> overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to
> kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..
> 
> -Nick Hayer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low
and
> > others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do
I
> > really need it?".
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17,
> > > 2004 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
> > > [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > >
> > > I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within
encrupted
> > zips.
> > > Otherwise they are pretty even.
> > >
> > > I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> > > Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if
I
> > can
> > > find my price tomorrow.
> > >
> > > <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> > > Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when
it
> > comes
> > > to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
> > > pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long
as
> > > it works well
> > :)
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Larry Craddock
> > >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Larry Craddock
Someone have the link to CLAM-AV ?
thanks,
Larry Craddock
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Scott Fisher
My 1 year McAfee VirusScan Command Line license was $11 through CDW. I think only 
CLAM-AV can beat that price.

On Sunday McAfee caught these that F-Prot did not catch:
1 Exploit MHTRedir
4 Exploit-ObjectData Trojan
2 W32 Bagle pwdzip (typically catches more of these)
3 Netsky P 

F-Prot caught 1 Netsky.P that McAfee did not catch. These are usually corrupt variants.

McAfee 260 caught, F-prot 251.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/04 08:13AM >>>
For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?

I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low and
others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do I
really need it?".

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within encrupted
zips.
> Otherwise they are pretty even.
> 
> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if I
can
> find my price tomorrow.
> 
> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when it
comes
> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems pretty
> cheap
> but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long as it works well
:)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Larry Craddock
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Nick Hayer
On 17 May 2004 at 9:13, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

> For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
> often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?
Hi Goran,

Here are my latest stats:
Virus Totals:  
441 F-Prot
412 AVG
446 McAfee
-  
Vunerabilities:  
349
- 

I update the defs for all every 4 hrs on a staggered schedule. 
Because of possible false positives I have found it hard to rank one 
particular scanner over another. For me the advantage to have more 
than one is one [varies] company will always come out with protection 
for a new outbreak before another. The downside is cost and cpu 
overhead. For the latter there is an outstanding request to Scott to 
kill additional scanning once a scanner detects a virus..

-Nick Hayer

 


> 
> I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low and
> others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do I
> really need it?".
> 
> Thanx
> 
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, May 17,
> > 2004 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
> > [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> > 
> > I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within encrupted
> zips.
> > Otherwise they are pretty even.
> > 
> > I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> > Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if I
> can
> > find my price tomorrow.
> > 
> > <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> > Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when it
> comes
> > to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems
> > pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long as
> > it works well
> :)
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > Larry Craddock
> > 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-17 Thread Goran Jovanovic
For the folks using multiple scanners, do you have any stats on how
often the secondary scanner found a virus that the first one missed?

I realize that the cost of F-Prot (which I am using) is quite low and
others might be as well, so it is not a cost issue but rather a "Do I
really need it?".

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
> 
> I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within encrupted
zips.
> Otherwise they are pretty even.
> 
> I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
> Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if I
can
> find my price tomorrow.
> 
> <<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
> Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when it
comes
> to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems pretty
> cheap
> but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long as it works well
:)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Larry Craddock
> 
> 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-16 Thread Scott Fisher
I find the Mcafee is the best at detecting viruses within encrupted zips.
Otherwise they are pretty even.

I'd recommend using F-Prot and Mcafee.
Mcafee for the DOS command line scanner is dirt cheap. I'll see if I can find my price 
tomorrow.

<<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  5/15 12:29p >>>
Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when it comes
to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems pretty cheap
but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long as it works well :)
 
thanks,
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-15 Thread Mike Hyslip
Title: Message








I will ditto this.  I used the 16 bit
trend command line application, and was having trouble keeping up with 15-20k
messages a day.  I switched to F-prot’s 32-bit command line scanner
and I don’t even see it pop up in the task manager it moves so
quick.   Very big improvement, can’t even say I can see a
performance difference with it running or not.

 

M

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:34
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
f-prot



 

I did some benchmarking a few months ago and F-Prot
was faster than everything else, and in many cases 4 times faster or
more.  You need to make sure that you use the 32-bit executable fpcmd.exe
otherwise you will take a performance hit from the 16-bit operation of
F-Prot.exe.

Matt



Jeff Maze wrote:



Just was curious, did you happen to
notice how much extra overhead was added to the CPU when another virus scanner
was added to the system.  With only 8000-1 message a day for our
server, it's not the newest nor fastest thing out there.

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:31
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
f-prot

Larry:

We have used it for years and are very
happy with it.

 

Of course since it is cheap I
suggest you use the savings and add another scanner to your arsenal.  2 is
always better than 1.

 

We use AVG and FProt together.

 

Regards,

Kami

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Larry Craddock
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:26
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot



Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to
mcafee or symantec when it comes to keeping their database up with new viruses?
That just seems pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as
long as it works well :)





 





thanks,





 





Larry Craddock







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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-15 Thread Matt




I did some benchmarking a few months ago and F-Prot was faster than
everything else, and in many cases 4 times faster or more.  You need to
make sure that you use the 32-bit executable fpcmd.exe otherwise you
will take a performance hit from the 16-bit operation of F-Prot.exe.

Matt



Jeff Maze wrote:

  Message
  
  
  Just was curious, did you
happen to notice how much extra overhead was added to the CPU when
another virus scanner was added to the system.  With only 8000-1
message a day for our server, it's not the newest nor fastest thing out
there.
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami
Razvan
  Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:31 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
  
  
  Larry:
  We have used it for years and are very happy
with it.
   
  Of course since it is cheap I suggest you use
the savings and add another scanner to your arsenal.  2 is always
better than 1.
   
  We use AVG and FProt together.
   
  Regards,
  Kami
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Larry
Craddock
  Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:26 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
  
  
  Can
anyone tell me how f-prot compares to mcafee or symantec when it comes
to keeping their database up with new viruses? That just seems pretty
cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long as it works
well :)
   
  thanks,
   
  Larry
Craddock


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-15 Thread Rick Baranowski
Title: Message



Seems 
to be pretty good. we have been using it for about 6 months now. We also use NAV 
CE for the rest of the machine and just exclude the spool dir along with the 
mailboxes. 
 
 
Rick 
B
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:31 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot
  Larry:
  We have used it for years and are very happy with 
  it.
   
  Of course since it is cheap I suggest you use the savings and add 
  another scanner to your arsenal.  2 is always better than 
  1.
   
  We use AVG and FProt together.
   
  Regards,
  Kami
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
  CraddockSent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:26 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  f-prot
  
  Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares 
  to mcafee or symantec when it comes to keeping their database up with new 
  viruses? That just seems pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking 
  for as long as it works well :)
   
  thanks,
   
  Larry 
  Craddock


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-15 Thread Jeff Maze
Title: Message



Just was curious, did you happen to notice how much extra 
overhead was added to the CPU when another virus scanner was added to the 
system.  With only 8000-1 message a day for our server, it's not the 
newest nor fastest thing out there.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami 
RazvanSent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:31 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
f-prot

Larry:
We have used it for years and are very happy with it.
 
Of course since it is cheap I suggest you use the savings and add another 
scanner to your arsenal.  2 is always better than 1.
 
We use AVG and FProt together.
 
Regards,
Kami


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
CraddockSent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:26 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
f-prot

Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to 
mcafee or symantec when it comes to keeping their database up with new viruses? 
That just seems pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long 
as it works well :)
 
thanks,
 
Larry 
Craddock


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] f-prot

2004-05-15 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Larry:
We have used it for years and are very happy with it.
 
Of course since it is cheap I suggest you use the savings and add another 
scanner to your arsenal.  2 is always better than 1.
 
We use AVG and FProt together.
 
Regards,
Kami


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
CraddockSent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:26 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
f-prot

Can anyone tell me how f-prot compares to 
mcafee or symantec when it comes to keeping their database up with new viruses? 
That just seems pretty cheap but hey that's exactly what I'm looking for as long 
as it works well :)
 
thanks,
 
Larry 
Craddock


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Update

2004-02-16 Thread Hermann Strassner
> Although this question is better asked on the Virus list,

You are right, i put in on this list by mistake.

> I assume you are using the 32bit Windows version, correct?

Yes i do.

> How do you have the update configured?

I run the scheduler from f-prot, and i do an update hourly.

If nobody is logged in, the scheduler does not run. Is there an other
way?

Hermann

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Update

2004-02-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Although this question is better asked on the Virus list, I assume you are
using the 32bit Windows version, correct? How do you have the update
configured?

John Tolmachoff
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> We use F-PROT Windows as virus scanner. The update engine runs only when
> the computer is logged in.
> 
> Is there a possibility to update also when the computer is not logged
> in?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Update

2004-02-16 Thread Darin Cox
I think the general recommendation is to use the 32-bit command line version
instead.  Check the Declude Virus manual for syntax.

For updating, there have been several contributions to the community to
automate the update for servers (not logged in): Checkout
http://www.declude.com/tools/ under the "Third party tools for Declude Virus
users:" section.

Darin.


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We use F-PROT Windows as virus scanner. The update engine runs only when
the computer is logged in.

Is there a possibility to update also when the computer is not logged
in?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Hama GmbH & Co KG
Dresdner Str. 9, 86653 Monheim

Hermann Straßner
EDV Server- und Netzwerkmanagement

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