[slim] Getting rid of slimserver
I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one application. I want to use iTunes or Amarok to manage my music and PUSH it to Squeezebox. I'm fed up of having to add music to a READ ONLY repository and not being able to tag it and play it directly from my file system in one go. The PULL paradigm doesn't equate to my listening habits. If Squeezebox is going to retain a competitve edge it must do provide something akin to providing a virtual sound driver that masquerades as a device on windows / linux allowing you to play music over wifi to the squeezebox. This was it would be client agnostic and not tie you into using Slimserver. Surely this is real open-source model and the direction slimserver should be taking. -- meltsheep meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slow Transporter
It continued to drop the analog output, even though the vu meters showed music was being played. I returned it to Ripcaster and I'm back with my sb3 which doesn't lose analog output. I got a full refund from Jon Nelson of Ripcaster. Thanks Jon for an excellent service. Keith -- KeithL KeithL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep wrote: I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's *yawn* solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one application. The model is excellent for my requirements. I want to use iTunes or Amarok to manage my music and PUSH it to Squeezebox. I'm fed up of having to add music to a READ ONLY repository and not being able to tag it and play it directly from my file system in one go. The PULL paradigm doesn't equate to my listening habits. I don't. If Squeezebox is going to retain a competitve edge it must do provide something akin to providing a virtual sound driver that masquerades as a device on windows / linux allowing you to play music over wifi to the squeezebox. This was it would be client agnostic and not tie you into using Slimserver. Surely this is real open-source model and the direction slimserver should be taking. That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it. Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: No display during playback
Sjoko99 wrote: Same thing here. My kids probably did it. Searched around a lot until I found this post. Been there, done that... ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep;172218 Wrote: I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one application. Why doesn't my computer make my breakfast? The program is primarily designed to service the Squeezebox. It is doubtful how many people want a Jack-of-all-Trades program, judging by how many posters to this forum use the fiddly-to-set-up EAC to rip their CDs. meltsheep;172218 Wrote: I want to use iTunes or Amarok to manage my music and PUSH it to Squeezebox. I'm fed up of having to add music to a READ ONLY repository and not being able to tag it and play it directly from my file system in one go. The PULL paradigm doesn't equate to my listening habits. I imagine that the majority of Squeezebox users use a computer situated in one room to rip their music and then listen to it on their hifi in another room using the remote (after all isn't 99.9% of the point of the Squeezebox to allow you to play music on your hifi without needing a PC in the same room?). When you consider this, having one piece of sofware to rip, tag and also play your music is nonsense... it must be best to use a dedicated program that's better at it surely? Dunno quite what you mean by READ ONLY.. I guess you are not talking about file permissions. SlimServer could be considered to be READ ONLY but the repository of music files is not. Personally I'm very happy that SlimServer can't change my files... I remember installing iTunes when it was first released. It changed all my music files and directories. There was no option to stop it doing this on set-up (that was changed by Apple pretty quickly though). MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
Peter;172220 Wrote: That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it. Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time? Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on the Stereophile website as to why SB is so much better. -- meltsheep meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Change of computer name
danco wrote: Peter;171948 Wrote: I think it's the hostname your Vigor passes to your machine via DHCP. If you want to get rid of it you might try specifying an IP address for your PC manually. Regards, Peter That's the obvious possibility. But the guy at the Vigor support team hasn't suggested it as a possibility, and says he has never seen it. Of course, he may be incompetent. Also, I can't understand why that hostname should be relevant for purely local use. It's not that strange if you look at it from the POV of a large company where the workstations are configured by dhcp. It's not that strange to be able to update the hostname together with the IP address from a central location. Especially not if you use dynamic addresses together with dynamic DNS as I believe some places do. I've seen machines calling themselves vigorxx after retrieving their ip address from a Draytek router. My slimserver (on a Linux server) advertises itself as the hostname I set manually. But then I never use DHCP for servers and only static dhcp entries for workstations, cams and SB's. Much more convenient for many reasons. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
ModelCitizen wrote: meltsheep;172218 Wrote: I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one application. Why doesn't my computer make my breakfast? The program is primarily designed to service the Squeezebox. It is doubtful how many people want a Jack-of-all-Trades program, judging by how many posters to this forum use the fiddly-to-set-up EAC to rip their CDs. meltsheep;172218 Wrote: I want to use iTunes or Amarok to manage my music and PUSH it to Squeezebox. I'm fed up of having to add music to a READ ONLY repository and not being able to tag it and play it directly from my file system in one go. The PULL paradigm doesn't equate to my listening habits. I imagine that the majority of Squeezebox users use a computer situated in one room to rip their music and then listen to it on their hifi in another room using the remote (after all isn't 99.9% of the point of the Squeezebox to allow you to play music on your hifi without needing a PC in the same room?). When you consider this, having one piece of sofware to rip, tag and also play your music is nonsense... it must be best to use a dedicated program that's better at it surely? Dunno quite what you mean by READ ONLY.. I guess you are not talking about file permissions. SlimServer could be considered to be READ ONLY but the repository of music files is not. Personally I'm very happy that SlimServer can't change my files... I remember installing iTunes when it was first released. It changed all my music files and directories. There was no option to stop it doing this on set-up (that was changed by Apple pretty quickly though). I have a server based setup in my house. I rip my music on a wireless (Windows) laptop and save it on a (Linux) server share. Slimserver is also runing on that Linux box. IMHO that is the architecture best suited for slimserver/SB/TP setups. Slimserver is not really meant for running on laptops and makes little sense to people who use their PC/laptop as a slimserver. For them it seems a strangely contrived way of playing music. For me it's perfect. The server is up 24/7 so I can always access my music even when the laptop is closed or otherwise inaccessible. Client PC's go on and off the network. The server stays running and doing the things servers do, like downloading stuff, recording TV shows, playing music, allowing remote access, serving web pages, etc. etc. That's the kind of world where the slimserver makes sense. Now, obviously, I'm way ahead of the crowd in this (like many in this mailing list), but I'm convinced most people will be running servers in some form in a not so distant future. Perhaps then they will understand. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep wrote: Peter;172220 Wrote: That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it. Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time? Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on the Stereophile website as to why SB is so much better. I see. Well, as you see, it's not just sonically different, it's a totally different way of looking at music and networks that offers a whole new world of possibilities. You should stop trying to use the SB as a better sounding AE and try to see the other advantages. Perhaps one of those NAS things that run slimserver would be a nice start. Or an old PC as a Linux file music server. I'd like the PC sound driver that taps into the SB idea, but I wouldn't want it to replace the current architecture. It's just too limiting. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
Peter;172220 Wrote: meltsheep wrote: I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's *yawn* Oik. A shame you can't be bothered to respond politely. -- meltsheep meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect the SB directly to the Slimserver on the NSLU through the cable and also access the NSLU from my PC over the wireless bridge, as if it was connected directly to the network. The NSLU is also able to access the internet through the default gateway. Looks like what you propose will work OK -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 10145, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux - EN - iso-8859-1 Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Ramage wrote: Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect the SB directly to the Slimserver on the NSLU through the cable and also access the NSLU from my PC over the wireless bridge, as if it was connected directly to the network. The NSLU is also able to access the internet through the default gateway. Looks like what you propose will work OK Excellent. I guess an NSLU, an external harddisk and an SB2 could make a fully functional car system. I'd be interested in reading more on your project as it developes. Perhaps I'll go that way myself sometime in the future. I'm mostly concerned about building an SB2 somewhere in the dashboard, though... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep;172226 Wrote: Sorry the 'read only' thing isn't clear. I mean I have to organise and tag my music collection outside of slimserver. Slimserver simply provides a read-only view of your music collection. You can't edit anything. The content is immutable within slimserver.As it should be I think. The program services the Squeezebox hardware device. meltsheep;172226 Wrote: I want to be able to edit my music collection meta-data and load in new files and play them immediately without going though the re-scan routine. This how most people play music on their PCs. So why should playing it over wifi any different to using PC speakers ? My point is the paradigm of a 'music server' seems a bit odd.If you are playing music on your PC then why have a Squeezebox? Why not just use iTunes? My point is that ripping/tagging and listening are generally in two different physical locations so there is no need for a program to service both requirements. Also you do not need to rescan when you add new files, you just Browse Music Folder and add them to your playlist, which adds them to the SlimServer database auitomatically. In this way you can listen to newly added music instantly. I don't want slimserver / squeezebox to replace my CD player. Maybe that's the issue here. Maybe most people who buy this digital music solution are planning to rip all their CDs and play them jukebox fashion ?! I'm not. I don't want a music jukebox. I assume that most people do want it to replace their CD Player, I assume that most people who buy it want it to be their main (or even sole) source of audio (although I'm not too sure that Jukebox is the correct term). MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
I recently bought a mac mini for the main functions of what apple tv would provide. Given the relatively small price difference and the huge difference in flexibilty I can't see why the apple tv would appeal to anyone with a technical background, particlarly as you have the remote and front row stuff as standard with the mini. That said, I guess the non-technical market is rather larger... -- xio xio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31559 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
Nostromo;172100 Wrote: Jack of all trades, master of none. But they aren't different trades, it's all playback of media via codecs. Adding some video circuitry shouldn't alter audio playback as long as PSUs and other critical circuits are adequate. iPods were sometimes used at HiFi shows as music sources, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the AppleTV yet. On the other hand, the sound quality of all MP3 players has been noted to have fallen off over the years as cheaper components have been substituted, the iPod Vn2 is reckoned to be the best sounding (I still have mine, although battery life is short). We'll find out soon enough, they ship in a couple of weeks. I'm very interested in one fed into a DAC, iTunes is far more family friendly than Slimserver and all they have to do is build something with reasonably low jitter. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31559 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Change of computer name
Peter;172224 Wrote: It's not that strange if you look at it from the POV of a large company where the workstations are configured by dhcp. It's not that strange to be able to update the hostname together with the IP address from a central location. Especially not if you use dynamic addresses together with dynamic DNS as I believe some places do. I've seen machines calling themselves vigorxx after retrieving their ip address from a Draytek router. Regards, Peter Right, that provides an explanation that I can understand. It was probably a decision by Draytek when they updated the firmware, though it's odd that their support guy didn't seem to know anything about this. It still seems strange that the host name has only altered in certain places, my own name is there when I open a Finder window, and is shown as the name in the Sharing preference pane. SI have only found the changed name in Terminal and on the Squeezebox - the change in Squeezebox did not surprise me though the change in Terminal did. Does the Squeezebox get the name Vigor12 direct from the router? Or from checking what name the computer is broadcasting itself as? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31849 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Calling all conspiracy theorists
Skunk;172190 Wrote: The first song Sb3 played after midnight tonight was by Eric Clapton, and I'll give you three guesses as to which one. Having seen Steven King's Christine recently, I'm moved to ask; should this behavior concern me? Ask NauticusLX, he might know :=) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Change of computer name
danco wrote: Peter;172224 Wrote: It's not that strange if you look at it from the POV of a large company where the workstations are configured by dhcp. It's not that strange to be able to update the hostname together with the IP address from a central location. Especially not if you use dynamic addresses together with dynamic DNS as I believe some places do. I've seen machines calling themselves vigorxx after retrieving their ip address from a Draytek router. Regards, Peter Right, that provides an explanation that I can understand. It was probably a decision by Draytek when they updated the firmware, though it's odd that their support guy didn't seem to know anything about this. It still seems strange that the host name has only altered in certain places, my own name is there when I open a Finder window, and is shown as the name in the Sharing preference pane. SI have only found the changed name in Terminal and on the Squeezebox - the change in Squeezebox did not surprise me though the change in Terminal did. That must be an OS/X peculiarity. Does the Squeezebox get the name Vigor12 direct from the router? Or from checking what name the computer is broadcasting itself as? It's possible that it gets it from a reverse DNS lookup (find the name that's connected to the ip) directed at the draytek, but I don't think that's the case. My guess is that the slimserver software asks the OS for the hostname and the SB gets it from slimserver during the discovery process. Looking at the Slim::Network::Discovery source that seems to be the case. Slimserver gets the hostname from Sys::Hostname and passes it to the SB as part of the discovery process. There doesn't seem to be a way to override it. Stop using DHCP or find a way to override the hostname in OS/X. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Calling all conspiracy theorists
Skunk;172206 Wrote: Yes, after a search. Was the message in another language (I won't be specific). It was two posts above Tyler's account of tiny mics found inside his Sb3, which is nothing compared to his 'A/B X files' ordeal. Yes. It was in American Standard Cat. -- totoro squeezebox 3 - mccormack dna .5 - audio physic tempo 4 totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: No display during playback
Peter;172068 Wrote: Press brightness? Regards, Peter Thanks, I had a feeling I was just being stupid :) -- verdemar verdemar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31864 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
Peter;172230 Wrote: meltsheep wrote: Peter;172220 Wrote: That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it. Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time? Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on the Stereophile website as to why SB is so much better. I see. Well, as you see, it's not just sonically different, it's a totally different way of looking at music and networks that offers a whole new world of possibilities. Well I've reached a state of impasse, a dead end with Slimserver. I guess its time to try another wifi music solution. -- meltsheep meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
ModelCitizen;172233 Wrote: If you are playing music on your PC then why have a Squeezebox? Why not just use iTunes? My point is that ripping/tagging and listening are generally in two different physical locations so there is no need for a program to service both requirements. Also you do not need to rescan when you add new files, you just Browse Music Folder and add them to your playlist, which adds them to the SlimServer database auitomatically. In this way you can listen to newly added music instantly. MC I play music from my PC to my hifi via a DAC. I've got a very good hifi (Pathos amp etc) that's in the same room as my desktop. I've got a laptop that I would use if I wanted to move my desktop to another room. I rate iTunes very highly as software, its only serious flaw being a lack of a plugin API (ergo, you can;t play native flac in iTunes). Maybe my real issue is that I'd be happy to keep all my music in iTunes except that right now its flac. The Slim server iTunes itegration works pretty well. Hmm. I will think about a migration from flac to aiff and use iTunes ot manage music and slim to serve it. -- meltsheep meltsheep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
Peter, The home server is probably the next big thing in computing for Joe public. As homes become more digital it makes sense to have a central controller and repository. I started off with a NAS device with Slimserver bundled into it. It changed the way I listened to music and I suffer now loss in quality through playing it through a Squeezebox. I became so dependent on this setup I had to make it more flexible for me (my personal approach may not suit everyone). Now I have a central server for the house running on a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 Server. It also runs Slimserver. My data is on the NAS device which also acts as my print server. For me this is fantastic and is flexible to my needs. The operation of Ripping and tagging is a one-off, the CD arrives, it is ripped, tagged, packed away. The music is then available to everyone in the house through a PC or the SB3 in the lounge and just the remote. I can add plugins like Slimscrobbler, Biography, Album Review, xAP interface to stream news headlines and TV reminders. For me this is a wonderful setup and Slimserver is great. I know I like many in the forums are ahead of the crowd. I don't want Slimserver to be less flexible or dumbed down. Maybe someone could write a wizard for the less experienced user to use standard ripper, tagger and play options as Slimserver as the backend -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Vista Slimserver
Hi, having used slimserver without any problems for some time, I decided to get cocky and upgrade to Vista. Woe is me... The problem I'm having, is that when Vista boots, slimtray starts without problem, however slimserver never starts and has to be started via the slimtray icon. I've selected 'Automatically run at system start' from the slimtray icon but this seems to have no effect. Has anyone had a similar issue, and a resolution? Thanks. -- urbanshepherd urbanshepherd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
On 1/20/07, CardinalFang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the iPod Vn2 is reckoned to be the best sounding (I still have mine, although battery life is short). I'm never sure about iPod version numbers - i've got a 10gb with the touch scrollwheel. Assuming that the mechanical scrollwheel is v1 then i figure i'm on the same as you. I got sick of the poor battery life and bought a replacement battery from eBay. I can't remember the capacity but I bought the highest available and get about double the life i used to which makes a huge difference. Getting the case open was a faff but I got there eventually. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: No display during playback
I think it's Slim Devices fault for putting the button at the bottom right where you can sit on it :-) Cheers Richard -- magnanimous magnanimous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8977 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31864 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 rebooting very frequently
Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried the factory reset (which is what I meant by the system reset) but no joy. There must be some way of diagnosing why a SB is rebooting... really! I live in France Does anyone know if there is a service center here or somewhere else in Europe to avoid the expense of sending the unit to the U.S.? When you add the shipping and the repair cost - it starts approaching the price of a discounted new one... Well I am grateful for the replies I've had, but what I would like to know is - given my expensive (if beautifully crafted) paperweight / clock. Is there anyone with a suggestion for diagnosing if not actually fixing the problem. Some way of getting it to log activity... Thanks in advance, Michael P.S. I notice that some of the ruder members of the community have had many replies. Is that the way to proceed? ;-) -- msui772 msui772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
egd;172194 Wrote: I've installed 7.0a1/11234 and rescanned and th outcome is the same - 2 hours later the scan is apparently still going. The rescan finally finished and I've been able to listen for a few hours. Having now had the opportunity to compare slimserver under Linux and Windows I really have no option but to conclude that slimserver under windows is very sluggish by comparison - for rescans and running in general. It also appears to be buggier with a few freeze's /grinds to a halt this evening already. I'd better get that Ubuntu box back up and running tonight. Anyone who has not run slimserver under Linux will likely be surprised by the difference in performance and stability. Not sure whether the cause lies with slimserver or the os', though I suspect a bit of both. -- egd Linux and loving IT! egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
egd;171801 Wrote: Its close to 3,000 albums and just over 40,000 songs located on a NAS connected via a gigabit switch. From Linux a full rescan takes under 10 minutes and a refresh takes only a few minutes. Both machines are recent P4's, 1GB ram, SATAII hdd's etc. I think in my case it is going to be best to do a full rescan. Gotta love windows. That is very interesting. A really good direct comparison. I think I may have to start looking at migrating to Linux. Cheers. -- shabbs [shabbs] *Rip/encode:* 'EAC' (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) 0.95b4 [secure] w/ 'Lame' (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html) v3.97 [-V 0] *Audio:* 'SB1' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- boombox; 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- Technics SA-DX1040 -- JBL E30's *Storage:* 'Linksys NSLU2' (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1118334819312pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), 'WDG1U5000 500GB External USB Drive' (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=232language=en) shabbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver not dropping connections?
On Debain Sid with Slimserver 6.5.1 It's been two days since the ibook and .44 machines have been running yet, slimserver still seems to be holding the connection open. TCP bumby:3483-squeezebox.hank.org:44834 (ESTABLISHED) TCP bumby:9000-192.168.1.44:52438 (ESTABLISHED) TCP bumby:9000-192.168.1.44:51132 (ESTABLISHED) TCP bumby:9000-ibook.hank.org:49972 (ESTABLISHED) TCP bumby:9000-ibook.hank.org:49973 (ESTABLISHED) TCP bumby:9000-ibook.hank.org:49974 (ESTABLISHED) Any idea why those connections are still around? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
shabbs;172272 Wrote: I think I may have to start looking at migrating to Linux. If you're not familiar with Linux might I suggest that you go with Ubuntu - it is a pretty user friendly distribution and easy to configure for slimserver. -- egd Linux and loving IT! egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Cant play WMA files
I just hooked up sqeezebox v 3 wireless and it plays mp3 files fine but when I try to play a wma file it shows on the box as playing but is not. Can anyone help? -- David C David C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Just ordered squeezebox, couple of questions on using rhapsody
In SlimServer 7 it should sync OK. You can already sync Rhapsody over UPnP. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31876 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
egd;172276 Wrote: If you're not familiar with Linux might I suggest that you go with Ubuntu - it is a pretty user friendly distribution and easy to configure for slimserver. No worries... been down the Linux road many a time. RedHat, Suse, Debian, Mandrake, Slackware, Yellow Dog... but it's been a while. Will have to take a look at Ubuntu. Cheers. -- shabbs [shabbs] *Rip/encode:* 'EAC' (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) 0.95b4 [secure] w/ 'Lame' (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html) v3.97 [-V 0] *Audio:* 'SB1' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- boombox; 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- Technics SA-DX1040 -- JBL E30's *Storage:* 'Linksys NSLU2' (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1118334819312pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), 'WDG1U5000 500GB External USB Drive' (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=232language=en) shabbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Just ordered squeezebox, couple of questions on using rhapsody
Looking forward to its arrival. -- pedz pedz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31876 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
The content is immutable within slimserver. As it should be, IMO. The Slimserver's job is to get the music to the Squeezebox. It should not ever alter the music library in any way. This has actually been discussed in the past, and although some people disagree, I believe the majority felt that Slimserver should not manipulate the library. I still feel that way. I want to be able to edit my music collection meta-data Why do you need to do this within Slimserver? In any case, you can use iTunes to manipulate the library and metadata (at least on the Mac side) and Slimserver can use the iTunes library. play them immediately without going though the re-scan routine. You can. While a re-scan is occurring you can still browse your folder hierarchy to play anything in it. This how most people play music on their PCs. So why should playing it over wifi any different to using PC speakers? My point is the paradigm of a 'music server' seems a bit odd. I play the music through my stereo, and like many others I have a music server that does just that, serve music on demand to my stereos. It's on 24/7. I don't want it to be the way it is on a PC. I don't want slimserver / squeezebox to replace my CD player. Maybe that's the issue here. Maybe most people who buy this digital music solution are planning to rip all their CDs and play them jukebox fashion ?! I'm not. I don't want a music jukebox. I think you're on target here. The product is fundamentally not designed for what you want. It's designed to be a giant music jukebox that can play all your music whereever you like via the Squeezebox. If you're still within your 30 day return period, I--and I mean this politely--suggest you consider returning it. I don't believe it is designed to do what you want and I think it is unlikely you will end up being happy with your purchase. If you're outside the 30-day period, the SB3's retain pretty good resale value. Kevin P.S. I, too, wish iTunes would handle FLAC and its cue sheets. -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
I suffer now loss in quality through playing it through a Squeezebox. Why suffer a loss in quality? Uncompressed audio played via the Squeezebox should be exceptionally good, and better through the Transporter. Or to your ears was your CD transport better than than the Squeezebox and Transporter? (If the now was a typo and it was supposed to be no then please ignore this paragraph. Thanks.) The operation of Ripping and tagging is a one-off, the CD arrives, it is ripped, tagged, packed away. Me, too. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
I recently bought a mac mini for the main functions of what apple tv would provide. I agree. I'm on the verge of getting one for just that function. I'm just holding out for it to have 802.11n and a Core 2 Duo in it. I'm disappointed that it wasn't updated with those features at MacWorld. I figure it will happen soon, though. I can't imagine they're selling well now that essentially everything is 802.11n (well, pre-n). I was disappointed that there is no VOB or MPEG2 support in Apple TV. That makes it a total non-starter for me. I guess the non-technical market is rather larger... That seems very likely. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: problems with 6.5.1 and SB1
I do not know about MySQL. To go back to 6.5.0 and completely remove 6.5.1 I had to kill mysqld.exe process, if it helps. Maybe you should have killed it before reinstalling 6.5.1? But if you're happy with 6.5.0 don't bother upgrading. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files
You'll need to supply more info. Get the version of Slimserver from the bottom of the Server settings page within the UI. Also, are the WMA's purchased from an online music store, or where they ripped within Media player. The SB cannot natively play WMA files with DRM enabled. You'll perhaps have to attach one of the songs for someone else to test. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
If you bought a nice sports-car and the auto company later went to your house and took it away, leaving you an SUV instead, because they retain the right to change the car after the purchase, you'd be very angry. Then if you couldn't drive that car on just any road, but had to use the toll-roads set up by that company, you'd be even more angry. What word describes a person who knowingly enters into such a contract? I can think of several but the least offensive one is INSANE. Yet, there are many who buy music under those same terms. They buy music from an on-line store called itunes. If you buy music from itunes, the restrictions on the files can be changed at any time. From http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/01/HNitunesdrmcomplaints_1.html terms of agreement in the iTunes store, which retains the right to change the terms of the purchase after it's made and claims no responsibility for damage iTunes software could cause to users' computers. What word would describe someone who knowingly enters into such a contract? I can think of a few... The fact that Slimserver doesn't write anything to your audio files is VERY good. It means you retain full control over your music library, unlike a library made of itunes music. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
First, my friends, look over the damning discussion of this item on engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/itv-becomes-apple-tv/. I ordered one such unit the same day Stevie announced it, then looked at the specs and realized that it was just another Apple gimmick to keep people bound to the iTunes, iPod, and iTunes Music Store bundle. Believe me, I've been an Apple user for 20 years now and I spend hours each day on my Apple computer, but I've become wary of the ways Jobs seeks lock-in. Just look at the messy and annoying DRM at the core of all of the Apple entertainment technologies. Worse, Apple could have offered a credible replacement for those dreadful set-top boxes we are usually forced to lease from the cable providers, but the Apple TV simply isn't a credible solution to that. Slim has been heroic in support of open-source and fair-use solutions for content, and it remains largely agnostic with respect to formats and platforms. Bravo! I'm building essentially the entertainment hub Apple TV claims to be. It's pretty simple: take an old but not ancient laptop, load linux or a hacked MacOSX on it, run Slim as either server-client or just client, attach a Pinnacle HD Pro tuner stick on it, etc. For the real expert, try mythtv. Also consider the forthcoming Netgear EVA8000 which will have far better capabilities than the Apple device, and will prolly cost a good bit less. Also consider the new variant on the SlingBox. Remember that with AppleTV, you still need a DVD drive and some way to control that, and good luck trying to install any codecs on it that are not blessed by Steve. -- rfrost rfrost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31559 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver shuts down by itself - why?
Similar to previous posts, my SlimServer stops for no apparent reason. The event log is the same as what others have shown. The Slimserver version is: VERSION INFO SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Server IP address: 192.168.15.100 Perl Version: 5.8.7 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt I am reluctant to upgrade since those that have upgraded seem to still have the problem. This is a recent occurance on my system. Slimserver has been flawless until now. I have set my McAfee virus scanner to look at only program and document files. Has anyone been successful with a solution to this? -- phinbob phinbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28032 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files
Thanks for the response. I have slim server 6.5.1 and I ripped the WMA files using the Creative labs software that came with my sound card from CDs. They are VBR and most are around 700 kbs -- David C David C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Official SlimServer v6.5.1 Release
andyg;171581 Wrote:
I'm pleased to announce the availability of SlimServer 6.5.1.
http://www.slimdevices.com/download
New changes in 6.5.1 ('detailed list'
(http://www.slimdevices.com/Changelog6.html)):
* Gapless MP3 playback for LAME-encoded files on SB2/3 and
Transporter.
* Internet Radio buffering improvements.
* Many other bug fixes.
- Andy The Slim Devices Team
I'm getting a Setup files are corrupted error message when I try to
install the new version
--
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[slim] Re: Announce: Official SlimServer v6.5.1 Release
phinbob;172308 Wrote: I'm getting a Setup files are corrupted error message when I try to install the new version Which version/OS? They've all been tested to install properly, so that's strange. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31826 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Gaps between songs in 6.5.1
slimdemage;172126 Wrote: A fix for this would be great, don't you all agree? No. a) I don't care about gapless playback. b) If I did, I'd use a format that supported it like FLAC or Ogg, not with some workaround kludge like MP3 has to use. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Official SlimServer v6.5.1 Release
andyg;172309 Wrote: Which version/OS? They've all been tested to install properly, so that's strange. Using the 6.5.1 link from here. I have downloaded several times and get the same result. I am using Windows XP Pro. -- phinbob phinbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31826 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Touch/Nokia770 skin oddity
I was looking at the currently playing playlist using the Touch skin (I normally use Fishbone) and initially everything was correct, but when the playlist did some sort of automatic refresh all tracks took on the artist of the first track. Clicking reload in Firefox restored everything, until the playlist automatically refreshed, when again every track was by the same artist. This is also present in the Nokia770 skin (verified on my N800). This is with SS 6.5.1 official on XP. I viewed the playlist from the menu bar across the top, not going to Home then playlists. Anyone have this happen? -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31890 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Suddenly, I can't play a certain .asx stream !!
Hi I need help on this one: Suddenly my SB won't play a certain .asx stream. The internet radio station has played well for a long time, but suddenly not anymore. When I attempt to play the stream the SB goes black! I'm using My Picks to the particular stream, which also holds other streams that plays perfectly. When I use the Tune in URL function, the same thing happen...the SB goes black, and Slimserver needs to be restarted. The stream i'm talking about is: http://radio100fm.dk/netradio/100fm_live.asx The stream plays well in my browser, when loading it there. Further the stream is working well on the homepage for the radio station. Any help anyone? -- SB3-Man Best Regards Allan SB3-Man's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4551 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31891 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Fishbone skin gray style
I really like the gray style of the Fishbone skin but when I open the skin it always goes to the default style. Is there a way to make it stay at the gray style? I have the same problem when it comes to the album cover view. It always opens with the text listings instead of the album covers. Lastly is there a way to have the browser always open with a specific player. I usually have a few players running and I would like to set the web page to open with the player that is running on the computer that I open the browser on instead of having to scroll through the player list to choose the correct player. Thanks for the help. :) -- socialxray socialxray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Some MusicIP 'brains-out-blowing' problems
Hello there ! First, I'm sorry if the questions I'll ask here have some kind of answer somewhere, but I've been trying to get this work for 3 days now, diggind deep in both this forum and musicip's (unsuccessfully as you might guess) and I really need to know if it's worth struggling further. I run SS 6.5.1 and MusicIP 1.7.1 on win XPsp2. SS using MM, and 'blank' music folder setting. I keep MM running as GUI, because in the headless app there's no way to set exclusions (disabled tracks, books, ...) and in SS there's no way to forget about unchecked songs, like when using iTunes. There's one problem with MM-GUI's API service randomly stopping, but I posted on musicip forums about that. Let's see. Just to settle this, I've also checked all what follows in headless mode with whole SS cache deleted, so this wouldn't be an answer. What I want to expose here is the erratic behaviour of this fantastic but capricious couple of apps. My stats, shown in MM : 13002 songs (12989 mixables), 248 artists, 840 albums, 34 genres. When SS first scans, everything matches. (except albums, but that's ok since both apps don't handle my [n/a] tags the same) But then, songs went down to 12997, and later on, after a short MM/SS shutdown/reopen (in right order), back to 13001 (!) but this time with only 229 artists... In top of that, trying to create a mix doesn't always work... Sometimes (when trying from webUI) it creates an empty list. When trying from the remote, it shows 'MusicMagic Mix (1 of 50)' but keeps repeating the same song (must be the same 'empty list' symptom). Maybe this won't work while playing, I remember having stopped the song once, retried and got it to work. This whole flood to say that using this combination can be a real hassle, but the mixing possibilities are huge. But my music is on a local server, so I really need this to work from the remote or the webUI (on another computer) without continually having to physically access the server to restart, rescan or whatever. So any advice by people managing to master this would be hihgly welcomed. -- Stan Pulsar Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.1 questions
ulvi;172215 Wrote: When I press and hold (on the slimserver web interface) FF or REW nothing happens. On the remote, the functionality kind-of-works after press and hold, but it still seems flaky (the rate of advance in FF, for example, is unpredictable and non-uniform despite the 2X, 4X etc. speed indicators). The FF and REW on the web interface is limited to the fishbone skin, which I don't use, so I don't know. I have similar behavior from FF/REW on the remote. So it is working on your setup at least as well as it does for me, but it's pretty shaky, I'll agree. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31868 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Some MusicIP 'brains-out-blowing' problems
Stan Pulsar;172327 Wrote: Maybe this won't work while playing, I remember having stopped the song once, retried and got it to work. Well, after a few more tries, this seems to be correct. So it would be a nice feature to keep playing a track and being able to lauch a mix 'up to come'. And BTW, when displaying 'now playing' it would be easier to have this option just after a right arrow hit, just like 'add to favorites' (I already proposed this in the SS7 whishlist post) Because navigating right, then twice down to show album, then right again to show same track but with the littel 'm' then long 'play' to start mix, this isn't quite handy. -- Stan Pulsar Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
U (If the now was a typo and it was supposed to be no then please ignore this paragraph. Thanks.) It was. Now corrected. -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Ramage;172228 Wrote: Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect the SB directly to the Slimserver on the NSLU through the cable and also access the NSLU from my PC over the wireless bridge, as if it was connected directly to the network. The NSLU is also able to access the internet through the default gateway. I'm amazed this all works? Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge the Ethernet port. So it looks for SlimServer out over the wireless interface. The router sees the packets destined for SlimServer and retransmits them. The SB3 receieves the packets, detects that they are destined for the bridged device and sends them to the NAS (SlimServer). SlimServer then responds with what the SB was asking for by sending it down the crossover cable. The SB can't see the packets because it's acting as a bridge again since the packets came over the Ethernet interface and sends this over wireless. The router receieves this and retransmits it, which the SB3 finally receives. Pretty convoluted! It's great that it works, but how's the bandwidth? Any latency? Can you play FLACs? Someone tried this once before and it didn't work - I put it on http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign as an example of what NOT to do. I do not mean any disrespect at all, I'm surprised and amazed that it works! -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fishbone skin gray style
On 20/01/07, socialxray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the gray style of the Fishbone skin but when I open the skin it always goes to the default style. Is there a way to make it stay at the gray style? I have the same problem when it comes to the album cover view. It always opens with the text listings instead of the album covers. Lastly is there a way to have the browser always open with a specific player. I usually have a few players running and I would like to set the web page to open with the player that is running on the computer that I open the browser on instead of having to scroll through the player list to choose the correct player. Thanks for the help. :) If you use the following style URL you can specify both the player and the skin http://YOUR_SERVER_IP:9000/SKIN_NAME/index.html?player=YOUR_PLAYER_NAME I would imagine the problem with the fishbone skin is related to cookies not being saved properly, as it works fine here. Richard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Mark Lanctot wrote: Ramage;172228 Wrote: Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect the SB directly to the Slimserver on the NSLU through the cable and also access the NSLU from my PC over the wireless bridge, as if it was connected directly to the network. The NSLU is also able to access the internet through the default gateway. I'm amazed this all works? Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge the Ethernet port. So it looks for SlimServer out over the wireless interface. The router sees the packets destined for SlimServer and retransmits them. The SB3 receieves the packets, detects that they are destined for the bridged device and sends them to the NAS (SlimServer). SlimServer then responds with what the SB was asking for by sending it down the crossover cable. The SB can't see the packets because it's acting as a bridge again since the packets came over the Ethernet interface and sends this over wireless. The router receieves this and retransmits it, which the SB3 finally receives. Pretty convoluted! It's great that it works, but how's the bandwidth? Any latency? Can you play FLACs? Someone tried this once before and it didn't work - I put it on http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign as an example of what NOT to do. I do not mean any disrespect at all, I'm surprised and amazed that it works! Perhaps someone changed the squeezebox firmware to allow this. If Ramage wants to make sure the traffic between the SB and the slimserver is not going over the wireless interface (twice) he could try switching off the WAP. If it still works then the traffic obviously stays on the wired network. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Suddenly, I can't play a certain .asx stream !!
Well, I installed the 6.5.1 version and things seems to be working again. Strange. Still I have a few .asx streams that plays fine in my browser, but not on the SB... -- SB3-Man Best Regards Allan SB3-Man's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4551 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31891 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Peter;172348 Wrote: Perhaps someone changed the squeezebox firmware to allow this. If Ramage wants to make sure the traffic between the SB and the slimserver is not going over the wireless interface (twice) he could try switching off the WAP. If it still works then the traffic obviously stays on the wired network. Well yes, if you turned off the bridging function and went with the wired interface it would work perfectly, but you could then not access the NAS from a PC and you also couldn't get Internet/SqueezeNetwork access. Perhaps I'm confused at what the wireless bridge functionality really does in a Squeezebox then. I thought it merely dumbly passed all traffic coming from the wired interface out to the wireless interface for the router to deal with. If it sifts through the incoming wired traffic looking for packets destined for itself, it's acting more like a router than a wireless bridge, right? It would be great if it did that, but then it's not acting as a wireless bridge. Also if there's no SlimServer on the wired interface it's a waste of resources as there will never be any traffic destined for it. So I suspect it does not do this. Traffic coming over the wireless interface is a little easier to understand - if it sees traffic destined for itself it processes it, if it sees traffic destined for the bridged device it passes it down the wired interface without processing it. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Debugging playlist problems
I've got two problems I'd like to debug: 1) I've got the automatic rescan plugin enabled configured, but it never picks anything up. 2) Rescan just playlists, rescan for new, and clean rescan all take the same (long = 20m) time. What d_* should I enable for these? I've tried d_plugin, d_scan, d_playlist, but the log doesn't tell me much. I've tried adding in a few others, but that makes the lo so verbose it's tough to wade through. -- Rob McKaughan Rob McKaughan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31895 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Official SlimServer v6.5.1 Release
I just installed the Mac OS version. No problems with the installer but the Slimserver is no longer visible. The System prefs area shows that the Slimserver has started but there is no way to access it, since http://localhost:9000 comes back with nothing. I started and stopped the server a couple of times, even tried rebooting but - nada - there just isn't any way to communicate with the slimserver anymore. This is true for the squeezeboxes that I have, too. -- slimditty slimditty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4829 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31826 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Mark Lanctot;172337 Wrote: I'm amazed this all works? Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge the Ethernet port. So it looks for SlimServer out over the wireless interface. The router sees the packets destined for SlimServer and retransmits them. That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces are equal. In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch. One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one is virtually connected to the SB3's IP stack. So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it, and at the IP level none of it is even visible. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.5.1 scanner stops without completing
I installed the 6.5.1 shortly after it was released. Since then 'Clear Rescan' has not worked: the scanner starts, runs for less than 30 secs, and then shuts down. The SS web interface then says I've got 1 Genre with 1 album! I can sort things out by deleting the cache and forcing a complete rescan; but that seems a bit drastic for routine use. I run SS 6.5.1 and MusicIP 1.7.1 on win XPsp2. SS using MM, and 'blank' music folder setting. I've just signed up to RadioTime. I don't really know how to debug this, so any advice would be gratefully received. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31896 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
egd;172269 Wrote: The rescan finally finished and I've been able to listen for a few hours. Having now had the opportunity to compare slimserver under Linux and Windows I really have no option but to conclude that slimserver under windows is very sluggish by comparison - for rescans and running in general. It also appears to be buggier with a few freeze's /grinds to a halt this evening already. I'd better get that Ubuntu box back up and running tonight. Anyone who has not run slimserver under Linux will likely be very pleasantly surprised by the difference in performance and stability. Not sure whether the cause lies with slimserver or the os', though I suspect a bit of both. Is your music stored on a machine OTHER than the one running Windows and Slimerver? Mine is and it takes a long time to scan. I chalk up the extra time to whatever is dealing with the drive mapping. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ ~~~ SB3 (wired - 6.3.1) | Home-brew PC running XP Pro | DENON DRA-395 | PSB Stratus Bronze (2) | Outlaw Audio LFM-2 (1) | DIY Speaker Cables | Dayton Audio Interconnects jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
seanadams;172362 Wrote: That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces are equal. In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch. One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one is virtually connected to the SB3's IP stack. So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it, and at the IP level none of it is even visible. Sean: That is very cool. It would appear that the Squeezebox in bridged mode is a lot smarter than I thought! I'll edit the wiki appropriately. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random popping sounds appeared...
Install on Linux - no defrag issues ;-) -- mikeruss mikeruss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
jonheal;172367 Wrote: Is your music stored on a machine OTHER than the one running Windows and Slimerver? Mine is and it takes a long time to scan. I chalk up the extra time to whatever is dealing with the drive mapping. He's got his music on a NAS device connected via a gigabit switch. The key thing is that for him, on Linux, the same scan takes only 10 minutes. Which is an incredible difference form the hours it takes on Windows. Is it the way Windows handles the NAS device? Or the Windows network drivers? Or the Windows SlimServer code? Several things could come into play. Cheers. -- shabbs [shabbs] *Rip/encode:* 'EAC' (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) 0.95b4 [secure] w/ 'Lame' (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html) v3.97 [-V 0] *Audio:* 'SB1' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- boombox; 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- Technics SA-DX1040 -- JBL E30's *Storage:* 'Linksys NSLU2' (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1118334819312pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), 'WDG1U5000 500GB External USB Drive' (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=232language=en) shabbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.1 scanner stops without completing
I think I've fixed this. I'd got a path to a playlist folder in server settings - something I've already discovered SS+MusicMagic really doesn't like! If you did, thanks for thinking! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31896 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Mark Lanctot wrote: seanadams;172362 Wrote: That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces are equal. In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch. One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one is virtually connected to the SB3's IP stack. So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it, and at the IP level none of it is even visible. Sean: That is very cool. It would appear that the Squeezebox in bridged mode is a lot smarter than I thought! I hope you have now learned to never underestimate a SqueezeBox, Marc! ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
seanadams wrote: Mark Lanctot;172337 Wrote: I'm amazed this all works? Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge the Ethernet port. So it looks for SlimServer out over the wireless interface. The router sees the packets destined for SlimServer and retransmits them. That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces are equal. In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch. One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one is virtually connected to the SB3's IP stack. So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it, and at the IP level none of it is even visible. Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
shabbs;172373 Wrote: He's got his music on a NAS device connected via a gigabit switch. The key thing is that for him, on Linux, the same scan takes only 10 minutes. Which is an incredible difference from the hours it takes on Windows. Is it the way Windows handles the NAS device? Or the Windows network drivers? Or the Windows SlimServer code? Several things could come into play. I doubt very much that it's Windows itself. When I had my files on the Infrant NAS it wasn't blazing by any means, but copying gigabytes at a time to and from the NAS was acceptably fast and the bottleneck was definitely the anemic Infrant device. Windows network file access has been around for a _long_ time and other programs demostrate perfectly fine, fast file transfer speeds. It could be ActiveState's ActivePerl, but again, it's been around a while and if it were really _that_ slow, someone would probably have noticed by now. My bet is that it's something in SlimServer when run on Windows. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
I did check my test setup with the wireless access point disabled and the NSLU slimserver continued to work with the SB3 over the wired xover cable. When the wireless link was restored, access from the PC to the NSLU was restored. I was quite impressed by the functionality, confirmed by Sean. Great piece of kit. BTW this was just a test arrangement and not part of my permanent set-up. I'll have to think of some way to use this added flexibility. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206 - Windows XP, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep wrote: I don't want a music jukebox. You probably shouldn't have bought one, then. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter I think you're right, but that it would be quite an interesting poor man who has a squeezebox, computer, and internet access but not $30 for an access point! -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Peter;172380 Wrote: I hope you have now learned to never underestimate a SqueezeBox, Marc! ;) Most definitely. What's interesting about this is that this is above and beyond what is required. The Squeezebox operating in bridge mode really doesn't need to check if there are any packets destined for itself (because 95% of the time, SlimServer will not be on the bridged side) but the fact that it does is wonderful! This opens up whole new possibilities as I touched upon in the wiki now. With a NAS or quiet server in wired range of your Squeezebox and your router connected wirelessly, you get it all: - very fast, reliable wired bandwidth for music playback and SlimServer access - access to SqueezeNetwork over wireless, which should be fine as there aren't many/any high-bitrate streams - access to SlimServer from the rest of your network, both wired and wireless portions - the NAS/server will also have Internet access About the only drawback to this arrangement is if you have another Squeezebox on the wireless portion because it'll be a 2-hop arrangement - which isn't a problem for some people though. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Podcast error
Hello I have problems with some important norwegian Podcasts. Trying to start one, SB tells me: Unable to parse asf audio stream. Why ?? Below is one one of them: itpc://pub.tv2.no/kanal24/RadioShow/Podcast/XML/Kommisjonen.xml (I replaced itpc with http before adding it to SlimServer/SN) Please help me. There are many Podcasts with this problem. Dag -- maddag maddag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9762 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
My bet is that it's something in SlimServer when run on Windows. Or something with playlists created on Linux, therefore containing paths that don't exist on Windows. SlimServer can run fast on Windows. My 1.4GHz Laptop with Windows (and a slow disk) is scanning faster than my 1GHz Via/C3 Linux server. It's not Windows vs. Linux nor Perl vs. a real language, but some odd behaviour with the OP's particular configuration. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
azinck3 wrote: Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter I think you're right, but that it would be quite an interesting poor man who has a squeezebox, computer, and internet access but not $30 for an access point! Yeah, I realized that, but only after I pressed 'send' ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep;172247 Wrote: I play music from my PC to my hifi via a DAC. I've got a very good hifi (Pathos amp etc) that's in the same room as my desktop. I've got a laptop that I would use if I wanted to move my desktop to another room. I rate iTunes very highly as software, its only serious flaw being a lack of a plugin API (ergo, you can;t play native flac in iTunes). Maybe my real issue is that I'd be happy to keep all my music in iTunes except that right now its flac. The Slim server iTunes itegration works pretty well. Hmm. I will think about a migration from flac to aiff and use iTunes ot manage music and slim to serve it. If you like iTunes, look at the J. River Media Center player. http://www.jrmediacenter.com/ It has an iTunes like UI with much more flexibility. (I have 5 browser panes in my classical music view scheme and different view schemes for other kinds of music. MC was the only really satisfactory player (Windows based) that I found. MC has a built-in secure ripper that works as well as EAC and great tag editing facilities. If I see something wrong with a tag while I'm browsing for music, I fix it then. And MC works fine with Flac. Some people on this forum use MC to edit tags and then play music with Slimserver/Squeezebox. The MC program costs $ 40 but it is worth it to me. Your decision mnight be different. You aren't the first person to ask for a way to route output from Itunes or other player programs to the Squeezebox. I think you saw from this thread that Slimserver/Squeezebox has lots of fans who like it the way it is and are not sympathetic to suggestions that the system is lacking. It is a different architecture that might fit you or it might not. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
Michael Herger;172399 Wrote: It's not Windows vs. Linux nor Perl vs. a real language, but some odd behaviour with the OP's particular configuration. Is the best way to diagnose that using the d_scan flag and debug? Cheers. -- shabbs [shabbs] *Rip/encode:* 'EAC' (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) 0.95b4 [secure] w/ 'Lame' (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html) v3.97 [-V 0] *Audio:* 'SB1' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- boombox; 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -- Technics SA-DX1040 -- JBL E30's *Storage:* 'Linksys NSLU2' (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1118334819312pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), 'WDG1U5000 500GB External USB Drive' (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=232language=en) shabbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Rescan via wondows takes forever
Michael Herger;172399 Wrote: It's not Windows vs. Linux nor Perl vs. a real language, but some odd behaviour with the OP's particular configuration. Exactly. But somehow I don't think it's that odd. The crux of the setup is that the files are stored on a network file share. I've also experienced it, and at least one other guy as well. I don't have any playlists. To the original poster: What kind of NAS is it? It would be interesting to put together a test bed and see what the particulars are. For instance, if the file server is itself running Windows, is it just as slow? It would also be good to find out exactly where the slowdown is - is it when pulling files across the network to analyze headers and tags? Does SS normally need the entire file, or does it try to pull just the peices it needs? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] squeezbox on a Mac
I am currently running slimserver 6.5.1 with squeezebox 3 on my PC and it works fine. My question is this: I Just purchased a Mac and downloaded slimserver for Mac. Trouble is, it cant find my squeezbox. Are you not able to run on two systems? I shut down PC, but it still does not recognize my player. Any suggestions? Thanks, Gerry -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezbox on a Mac
thesil;172420 Wrote: I am currently running slimserver 6.5.1 with squeezebox 3 on my PC and it works fine. My question is this: I Just purchased a Mac and downloaded slimserver for Mac. Trouble is, it cant find my squeezbox. Are you not able to run on two systems? I shut down PC, but it still does not recognize my player. Any suggestions? Thanks, Gerry Apple is a pain in the A** -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Official SlimServer v6.5.1 Release
slimditty;172359 Wrote: I just installed the Mac OS version. No problems with the installer but the Slimserver is no longer visible. The System prefs area shows that the Slimserver has started but there is no way to access it, since http://localhost:9000 comes back with nothing. I started and stopped the server a couple of times, even tried rebooting but - nada - there just isn't any way to communicate with the slimserver anymore. This is true for the squeezeboxes that I have, too. It's working fine on my Mac, OS 10.4.8. No help to you, but it does provide data to compare with. for instance, what version of OS X are you using? Wired or wireless? I've known Safari refuse to recognise localhost. Seems absurd, but it happens. It's worth trying 127.0.0.1:9000 to see if that works. 6.5.1 does require a firmware update. If you forget that for long enough, I think the SB gives up completely, and you have to press and HOLD the Power button again to get anywhere. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31826 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Tune in URL - direct link from a browser?
I'm wondering if anyone has come up with a way to make it so that I can click/right-click within Shoutcast and the stream gets played on my Slimserver rather than on Winamp. I tried to manually create the link from the source of the Tune in URL page but couldn't even get it to tune to a station with a URL, a la http://localhost:9000/tunein.html?p0=playlistp1=playp2=http://62.49.59.50:8000 is there some variation of this that WOULD work? Presumably there's an easy way in windows to append a right-clicked URL to prepend the needed root URL Anyone have guidance on this? Thanks, -Brian -- bb9876 bb9876's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3320 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezbox on a Mac
Actually the reason you don't see it is that the Squeezebox is connected to the PC. Press left and hold for 5 seconds. Go through network setup again, just press FF to skip everything you entered except when you get to the part where you select the SlimServer. You should see the new server listed. Once you've connected to it once, if you go through this again you can select it right from step 1. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezbox on a Mac
So, if I understand you correctly, I can switch back and forth between Mac and PC? -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Peter;172405 Wrote: azinck3 wrote: Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter I think you're right, but that it would be quite an interesting poor man who has a squeezebox, computer, and internet access but not $30 for an access point! Yeah, I realized that, but only after I pressed 'send' ;) Regards, Peter Oh, I didn't mean to be critical, just thought it funny. I have observed others around here doing things much less convoluted than that in the name of saving a few bucks! -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezbox on a Mac
thesil;172427 Wrote: So, if I understand you correctly, I can switch back and forth between Mac and PC? Yes, you should be able to - just press-and-hold left for 5 seconds and select a server to connect to. Provided you connected to both of them at least once, they should both be there. The main question is, why do you want to do this? :-) -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezbox on a Mac
I really will not be doing that. I will probably retiring my PC soon;but in the meantime, i just wanted to experiment a little bit while they were both still connected. Thanks for your help Gerry -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
meltsheep, I dont like the idea of SlimServer either, and only listen to internet radio. Theres an online service called Oboe that will store all your music, and can be accessed from any computer. I recommended to SlimDevices that they partner with this company, so that our personal music archives, once uploaded to Oboe, are accessible via the SqueezeBox, like Pandora, without our PCs running OR the need for a NAS. That would be the ultimate. PaulB: you state: Now I have a central server for the house running on a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 Server. It also runs Slimserver.Is the NAS simply a box that is always turned on sitting next to your regular PC? How are the various devices hooked up? -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question
Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Yes it can. In fact you can even connect two Squeezeboxes to each other in ad-hoc mode with bridging enabled, and thereby bridge two ethernet LANs together. The thing it can not do is to be a real access point with more than one 802.11 station connected. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Mobile/Cell Phone and Squeezebox connection over bluetooth?
I want to control my Squeezebox using my phone so can I do it by bluetooth or does it have to be over WAP, and if it only works with WAP does it cost? -- Frommerchicken Frommerchicken's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: scanner.exe never stops
I too have had the same problem since upgrading to 6.5 and now even 6.5.1. I get as many versions of scanner.exe running simultaneously as my cpu will allow. WinXPsp2 6.5.1 no plugins (except alien) I have uninstalled, done a clean install and spent the last week with tech support that claim they never heard of such a bug. Is the option to uninstall and go back to 6.3? or just give up and go with roku, sonos, or some other hardware/software combo. I am underwhelmed by the tech support - which they admit they don't know what is causing the problem. Help appreciated as I am hours and $s into this. Thanks -- zeppie zeppie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31164 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: US: senate bill threatens Internet Radio with DRM requirement
God, I knew this Internet Radio thing was too good to be true. I'll amp up my harvest immediately. You say the Bill was re-introduced - which means the first Bill failed to pass. I wonder what the vote count was - that would indicate the liklihood of future success of the Bill. -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Sudden Severe Clipping Distortion
Matt, the same thing happened to me about 2 weeks after I bought it. I did notice the problem went away when I turned the volume down on the SB itself. I contacted support via email, not the forum, and they told me to unplug/replug the device with the 1 pressed in, which fixed the sound - something to do with the sound card, support told me. About a week later I wasn't getting any sound at all, so just unplugged/replugged the device, which worked. Simultaneous pressing of the 1 key during replug may not be necessary, it seems. If it happens more than once a month I'll probably ask for an exchange. Another time I noticed the display went blank in the middle of a song, but the song kept playing, and the display came back up after about 20 seconds. Spooky. -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31692 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?
Kevin - in terms of VOB support I'm using the dvd assist hack to fool the dvd player. It's slightly (but only slightly) tedious to set up but frankly works like a dream when you're up an running. For my own purposes, the wireless stuff isn't even activated - due to home improvements works (;-)) I have cat5e running around the house. All dvd's etc are ripped and stored on a linux box in a cupboard and the streaming works just fine. I've not found a problem with the core due performance to need the extra power - what sort of apps are you looking to run? (or is it just future proofing?) Also figured if I got brave in future I could stick mythtv on it. -- xio xio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31559 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver
The Oboe service is part of MP3tunes. There have apparently been some discussions between SD MP3tunes (search the forum for previous threads). No idea what the current status is. Personally, I don't see the point of streaming my own collection over the internet when I have it on a hard disk on my LAN. YMMV, etc. A NAS is Network Attached Storage. It's a hard drive that connects anywhere on your network, usually via ethernet cable, although there are some wireless versions around. A NAS has a processor, RAM, and an OS (usually linux) so it's really a special purpose computer: low powered, low power consumption, and oriented towards serving files to other computers on the network. But some NASs can also run slimserver, like the Buffalo LinkStation that I use. If you don't like slimserver on a desktop or notebook comuter then you won't like it any better on a NAS. But if the issue is not having a PC on, the NAS is a nice solution. See the SD wiki for more info. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mobile/Cell Phone and Squeezebox connection over bluetooth?
Do you mean from -outside- your network? If so, you need to make SlimServer accessible from outside, see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?ConnectingRemotely. It doesn't cost any more than what your provider charges for general Internet access. From inside your network, the Squeezebox doesn't have any Bluetooth connection. You could either: - install a Bluetooth access device in your SlimServer PC and access SlimServer that way. I'm not sure if these devices are network-accessible - if they are, then this device can be on any machine on your network, not necessarily the one running SlimServer. I believe these devices have limited range though. - if your Squeezebox is wireless, access your router/WAP. Otherwise plug a WAP into your wired router, or replace your wired router with a wireless one. Connecting internally wouldn't cost anything provided the phone has an 802.11b/g connection. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
