Re: [slim] How well do the DACs hold up nowadays?
Gandhi wrote: If you've been away a long time, perhaps you have yet to discover Archimago's enlightening measurements of many different audio devices? http://archimago.blogspot.ca Interesting... thanks. The jist seems to be, for 16-bit streams all DACs are much of a muchness, but for 24-bit streams, the SBs still hold their own. *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How well do the DACs hold up nowadays?
Gazjam wrote: Shame the OP isnt getting the kind of discussion and help he was looking for. Ive gave my experience, maybe others might pitch in too. Sorry guys, I've been away (bad timing for posting something so contentious by the looks of things!). Perhaps this was better suited to the Audiophile section, but I don't necessarily see this as an audiophile concern; 10 years ago maybe, but now people are buying DAC attachments for their PCs and mobile phones, new services are providing lossless streaming... normal consumers are now after sound quality, not just convenience, from their digital music. Chip makers are bringing out new DAC chips all the time, which -implies- there's been development, but does that mean new DACs are intrinsically better than older ones, in the same way that a new CPU is presumed better than a 10 y/o one? Does anybody have any experience in purchasing one of these newer small-form DAC devices because they were trying to make their SB better, and if so what were their experiences? Has anyone given up on their SB in favour of their mobile phone? *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How well do the DACs hold up nowadays?
I've been away from the SB scene for a while (except for using them to, well, listening to music) but my wife bought me a Little Dot I+ headphone amp for Christmas and I think I'm getting the bug again. So my question is, after all these years, how good are the SB DACs compared to what is on the market these days? The Transporter DAC was considered the best around at the time, if I remember correctly. Even the SB3 DAC was well rated. How do these compare to some of the cheap small DACs like the FiiO? Do you get better DACs in your mobile phone nowadays than the venerable Transporter? Cheers all, and happy new year :-) *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bad experience with a Touch dealer
Mnyb wrote: So what to do with discontinued products ? Don't return them , take the loss and try to fix it elsewhere :/ Oddly enough, under EU regulations you can get the product repaired elsewhere - and have the vendor refund the repair costs - if they refuse to repair/replace it to begin with. Not that it really helps in this case of course. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98825 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bad experience with a Touch dealer
toby10 wrote: Can you do the same with cars in the EU? You buy a new car, car is determined to be defective (cannot be fixed/remedied by repairs, called a Lemon in the US), mfr agrees to give you a new car, but you also get the defective car back? I'd find that highly unlikely, no matter where one lives. ;) I think it's more that the vendor agreed to the conditions of replacement laid out by the OP by sending a goodwill Radio, but did not fulfill the conditions by also returning the original. They could (and will) argue the Radio was a direct replacement for the Touch but under EU regulations this can only happen if the replacement is of equal (or more) value, which is not the case as the Touch was being sold at a substantially higher price than the Radio. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98825 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Alternative from the old Crew
I only see Dean in the list. The product looks funky, albeit aimed at casual/background listening... a big dial lets you slide between Daily Listening and Party Music. I like it! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there any continued development of the Squeezebox server software?
bernt wrote: LMS is the best music server software out there. Just install it and forget it. It's extremely stable and easy to use. No, I'm not kidding. How ironic... I love it because it's infinitely tweakable! ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98450 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above Julf wrote: I think that is called true democracy :) This sounds more like socialism. Couldn't we let people pay to have their name chosen? That's the capitalist way. Hallelujah! Actually those whole exercise is more like groupthink... the chosen name wouldn't be the best, just the least disliked. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services OK, wrapping this up after a month and a nice round 100 submissions, I think we can draw some conclusions. - Even with Erland's theories of bias, it's clear that the vast majority of SB owners use online services. In fact only 14% of participants said they don't use them. Clearly any future support for the SB ecosystem must offer online capabilities in order to be successful. - Internet Radio is the most popular form of online service, with 59% of participants using it. This shows how important it is to ensure a partnership with TuneIn or another similar provider can be maintained. - Pandora is the second most popular service, which I find surprising as it's not available in most countries! - Perhaps less surprising is the popularity of Spotify, as it's taken over from Rhapsody and Napster as the on-demand service of choice. - A final note to the Others, which include BBC iPlayer, Sirius/XM, and some emerging and localised services such as Quobuz. In conclusion, there is an obvious need for SBs to continue to access online services, and any replacement server application or hardware must be able to meet this need. Thanks to all who contributed. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above jimzak wrote: I seemed to have killed this thread. Were my suggestions THAT bad? No, I think everyone's just got naming fatigue. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
pufnstuf wrote: The majority of age groups do recognize a cassette, especially a simplified, stylized version - even Gen Y's. :D This is an interesting point. Stylized representations of dated products still regularly take on new meanings as they avoid ambiguity. For example, in the UK (and I expect elsewhere) an early-20th century box camera is used to signify traffic speed cameras. Likewise an icon of a 3.5 floppy disk is instantly recognised as a Save function despite them not being used for many years. The point being, the use of a dated product to represent a new idea is not unknown, and does not suggest the new product is equally dated. The 8-track suggestion was a joke btw. That's pushing things a little too far. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above SlimChances wrote: My wife thinks The NERDBox would make a good name Too ambiguous... that would cover half the electronic devices in this house ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
OK, let's make it an 8-track... 14631 +---+ |Filename: 8track.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14631| +---+ simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: Now to open up the can of worms, someone mentioned a power light on the front panel. Putting a simple light on the front panel that is hooked directly up to the power input is a piece of cake. BUT people are notorious for not liking that. Its the wrong color, its too bright, its too dim, it has to auto correct for the surroundings etc. It needs to be on a timer so it goes off at night. I could put a tri color led on the front panel and hook it up to 3 pwm outputs from the processor and let the users fight over how it gets controlled, but then it becomes a the cpu is up and running and the led control software is loaded rather than a simple power light. And then the moment I put any indicator on the front panel, the floodgates open and I won't be able to keep it to just a power light, there will be hundreds of requests for every type of indicator, screen etc. And I'm trying to prevent that for the first board. I REALLY REALLY want to keep the first board to a black box player, with external control and display, anything else is going to radically increase the time to market and I don't want that to happen. So given that rant, do I still put a power light on the front panel? John S. And there was me expecting it to spell out errors in morse code (in my favourite colour of course). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3
The original UK power supply that came with the original SB3 (Unifive) is incredibly noisy (EMI-wise, not audibly) and lowers the tolerance of a powerline network considerably (YMMV). I personally found plugging the SB3 into a surge-protected 4-gang was the best way of reducing noise. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
cdmackay wrote: I was going to ask: is there any reason not to use micro USB as the power input? Even if people subsequently wanted to use a better supply, that could still easily be routed through a microUSB connector? Also, quite keen to do beta testing, if that's helpful. I guess it depends on the draw. Most USB chargers are 1A. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JackOfAll wrote: Is there anyone with graphical design skills who could contribute to the community project by designing a logo for our Community Squeeze OS. (It will be shown on the WebGui configuration page and the splash screen startup of Jivelite.) I'm really looking for something before then end of this weekend, which might be a little bit of an ask. ;) Anyone? Please PM me if you can help. It it to be called SqueezeOS or Community Squeeze OS, etc? What profile logo are you looking for (4:1 rectangle, 1:1 square, etc)? I'm not suggesting I have the talents, just thinking the kind of answers I'd need if I was doing it ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JackOfAll wrote: I don't wish this to be turned into a public debate which goes off at a complete tangent with 10 people having ideas as to which colours should be used, hence the request that anyone who might have the necessary skill set contact me via PM to discuss. Ah OK, that makes sense. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services With the recent discussions about the longevity of MySB and the impact on online services, I thought we might take a gauge of how many people use online services and which ones. IF YOU DON'T USE ANY, PLEASE CHOOSE \NONE\ RATHER THAN NOT VOTING. Note this only covers services that are available via your SB right now, not ones that aren't supported (e.g. Google Music). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services ModelCitizen wrote: Should BBC iPlayer be considered an online service? Yes it should, sorry! The poll is limited to 10 entries (plus I can't edit it anyway!). I suggest people who choose Other add a comment as you have. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services To those selecting Other - please can you respond with the service you use? Thanks. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services erland wrote: When interpreting the result, just remember that: - Internet Radio is going to get a lot lower result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that there are a lot of users out there who only use their Squeezebox for internet radio but never reads this forum. - None is going to get a lot higher result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that while there are a lot of users in this community using their Squeezebox only for local music this is not as common among users who never reads this forum who often use their Squeezebox mainly for internet radio or online services. Both good points, although I'm interested to see if the local yokels (my newly-made-up slightly-offensive term for local-only users) are are numerous as they are vocal* ;-) * yes, they are vocal local yokels. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Sorry to hear that. I hope your wife gets better soon. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] More bad news re the future of mysqueezebox.com
Mnyb wrote: The reason for it's there in the first place paranoid service providers , they don't want the encryption and handshakes to be on the ens users machine especially not on an open source project , the risk of reverse engineering . This is a problem I can't see being resolved any time soon. Even with MySB still running, the Community Squeezebox (aka SWAMP) will not be able to use these services (well I know Napster/Rhapsody won't work... not sure about the others). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
erland wrote: One limitation I still want to apply is that with one online streaming account you will still only be able to stream a single song to one device or to multiple devices synchronized, basically no possibility to play different songs to different devices simultaneously as this usually is prohibited by the streaming providers and won't change in the future. I confess I've never tried, but I'm surprised this is disallowed - at least if they're all coming from the same public IP address. erland wrote: The questions I'm wondering about is related to if you have separate premium streaming service account for each family member or if you are using one account for the whole family. One account for all. erland wrote: If you have a single account for the whole family, are you severely missing the ability to keep track of individual playlists or favorites for each family member ? Not severely, but to some degree. I ask them -not- to Add to Library and for them to use it purely as an ad-hoc listening service (I use the library... I'm excluded from my own rule on the basis I pay for it). It doesn't always work - I sometimes see One Direction and similar appearing in the library. erland wrote: Do you have any ideas how you would like online streaming services to work on your Squeezebox and portable devices from a family perspective ? How would your dream system handle it ? First and foremost, I want our new Community-SB devices to support them! Non-SB players can't access Rhapsody UK (Napster) and I suspect we'll be in a similar position with the Community-SB for the time being. Beyond that, allowing different users to have different libraries would be nice as, when my kids get older, they're more likely to demand such a feature. I think that's the answer you were looking for. ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of local music libraries in your family ?
erland wrote: Do you have a need to let each family member browse their library individually ? I don't believe so. I'm curious why this is an issue for people. Do people have lots of explicit tracks they don't want their kids near? Or are they embarrassed to see certain artists in their list? I prefer to give my kids access to the whole library in the (possibly vain) hope they may actually listen to some of the oldie music and like it! erland wrote: If so, where are the music files stored ? On a central computer/NAS, on a computer/NAS per family member or on the portable device of each family member ? On a central server for the whole family. Having multiple libraries would make backing up a nightmare. erland wrote: Do you have a need to keep track of playlists for each family member ? I can see the benefits of individual playlists, although this could be mediated by asking them to prefix their playlists with their names. erland wrote: Do you have a need to keep track of favorites for each family member ? OK I see where you're coming from now. Yes, having individual favourites lists would be a nice feature, mainly to avoid crap appearing in my favourites lists. erland wrote: Do you have a need to keep track of ratings and playback statistics for each family member ? Currently I'm the only one who can rate tracks. As my kids get older I can see them having stronger views on my ratings, so yes it would be nice. erland wrote: Does each family member have individual players which only one of the family members mostly use ? Not at the moment, but it's something I would like to do in the future, such as giving the kids some Booms (or Community-Booms!). erland wrote: If so, should all players be controllable by everyone or do you want access to certain players to be restricted ? In that case why ? I don't think so. Yes they may find it funny to remotely control the Boom in the parent's bedroom, but the novelty would soon wear off ;-) erland wrote: Does each family member have their individual remote control/smartphone to control the players or do you also have remote controls which you share between different family members ? Shared at the moment, but I suspect they'll have smartphones in a few years. erland wrote: If you have a remote control which you share between multiple family members, is it a IR-remote, smartphone, tablet or computer ? A Controller, and a repurposed Joggler. erland wrote: How would your dream system work to work as good as possible for usage of local music on Squeezeboxes and portable devices in your family ? I'm reluctant to give this a lot of thought, as I suspect my needs will change. Right now, a UI that the kids -want -to use would be nice - I find them heading for Windows Media Centre to play music all too often, because (in their opinion) the UI is better for local music. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98199 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
As Round 1 set the cat amongst the pigeons, it only seemed fair to follow it up with a Round 2, taking the top 2 winners from Round 1 and combining them with a few others, including the much-requested I don't care/call it what you like/they're all rubbish option. Bear in mind this is likely to be purely a codename, while we wait patiently for some marketing god to give up their Sonos, buy a Squeezebox and put us all to shame with the perfect moniker. So here are the nominations (drumroll...) *Open Music Box* - The most popular choice from Round 1, Open Music Box is probably the least pretentious name choice but its initials (OMB) make a great codename which provides future variations Boom OMB, Touch OMB, Wireless OMB... oh what fun. (Suggested by erland) *Melodia* - On the other end of the pretentiousness scale we have Melodia, meaning pleasant song in Latin. I can almost see the flowing calligraphic text emblazoned in graphite on the front. (Suggested by erland) *Phoenix* - A name with meaning; the Squeezebox -shall- rise from the ashes. However it is a popular choice for consumer products (presumably with similar reincarnations) which could prove tricky in the future, but as a codename is perfectly acceptable. (Suggested by P Nelson) *Harmonic* - I missed this from the first round due to its closeless to music-game-developers Harmonix but public pressure has demanded this be included, and for good reason; it's a great word and captures the subtlety of well-reproduced music. (Suggested by dustinsterk) *None of the Above* - Choose this if you mean I don't like any of 'em, I think name choosing is pointless, Let the hardware team decide, Box Wot Makes Noises, etc. I could separate them about but as they would all lead to the same thing - a codename being chosen by the hardware team - we might as well combine them. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above castalla wrote: I'm reporting this to the Electoral Commission - you can't just add in a new candidate in the runoff? This is starting to look like the classic election fraud. You've caught me out, but it was under duress... also gutted that none of my entries made it through ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JackOfAll wrote: CubieBoard is A8 with NEON. You just take the rootfs from my image and roll your own kernel/uboot for the CubieBoard. I'll have a look this evening. Got to admit that I know nothing about the Cubieboard other than what I just read. But I have no doubt that we could make a working image for you. Please can you create a version for the Sinclair ZX Spectrum while you're at it? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box JohnSwenson wrote: Unfortunately I need SOME name to put on the PCBs, files I send to the board house, assembly etc. The software types will be coming up with a new drivers and need a name etc. It would be nice if everybody who does something for the project uses the same root name rather than them all being given the name the particular developer likes. That could get rather confusing very fast. So we need something for development, it doesn't have to be the official marketing name, just an internal code name we all use for now. For example the code name of the SB Touch was fab4, the radio's code name was baby etc. We need something like that for this project. John S. What's your timeframe for needing a name, John? Round 1 finishes tomorrow, and my plan was to have a Round 2 (incorporating the top 2 from this round, plus a couple of others and None of the above) running for another week. If the I hate all of 'em contingency are as numerous as they are vocal ;-) then you can have the casting vote for what to put on the boards! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community SB: expansion infrastructure
JohnSwenson wrote: At least in the beginning we will probably still be using LMS, so the existing plugin interface will most likely be used for the server side. But on the player side it does not look like we will be using SqueezePlay which had the applet infrstructure. Some simple aspects of player to server communication for things like IR blaster was embedded in slimproto, but I don't think we need to stick with that if we don't want to. A lot of work was done with JSON outside of slimproto. I completely agree for now, but I think we need to have in the back of our minds a desire to move away from LMS -if that's the longer term plan- and planning with this philosophy now could save many a headache later. My own opinion is that the LMS architecture has had its day and we could, if inclined, develop a new architecture that could emulate slimproto to allow older SBs to function without requiring new firmware. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box erland wrote: Maybe we should just call it Community Squeezebox since that's what the forum threads are named ? I pity John having to fit that on the PCB ;-) This bizarre display of democracy isn't costing anything, so as long as John isn't waiting with baited breath for a codename, I'm happy to let this thing run its course, including the Round 2 which will separate the chaff from the wheat. Or perhaps the chaff from the even-worse-chaff. Anyway, I'm not sure anybody ever claimed this community had -creativity-... just a passion for music and a slightly obsessive interest in how that music is played. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community SB: expansion infrastructure
JJZolx wrote: For multi-player sync, it's absolutely essential. +1 I also don't think it'd be too difficult to make these old devices think they're still talking to LMS via an API layer, leaving us complete freedom with the underlying architecture. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box castalla wrote: Why not just call it IT ? The IT? No, wait... simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community SB: expansion infrastructure
erland wrote: I hate to be realistic, but if this project is going to survive on longer terms, it have to be organized in a company and a company will need to make profit, how much do you think SB1, 2, 3 users would be willing to pay 2016 to get support for their almost 10 year old $300 players ? How many of them do you think would prefer to instead spend that money to replace the old devices with a fresh new Community Squeezebox with excellent audio quality ? People often want a lot of things but usually when they realize they have to pay for it they don't think it's worth it. Damn you and your realism ;) I think this all depends on where this project is heading. From my standpoint, I've made an investment in older SB devices and I'd like to contribute to a project that will allow me to extend and improve on that investment. Also, I've yet to see anything on the market that provides a similar service at the same price point. If we really are talking about getting proper corporate support, maybe the SB2/3/Boom owners would provide a great market from-the-go to buy more devices? Regardless, there are plenty of community projects that are doing well without corporate investment - just look at the media centre ecosystem with MediaPortal, XBMC, etc. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I do think it's too early to be planning a complete replacement to LMS, but I don't think we should rule it out. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community SB: expansion infrastructure
Triode wrote: I did look at xbmc but was concerned that for just rendering a user interface it looked to be overkill and specially on the platform I tested on it seemed to use high cpu load to continuously render the display. I had the same issue on the R-Pi and I understand it's a well-known problem. That's the downside of community software projects - they tend not to be well optimised. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community SB: expansion infrastructure
JackOfAll wrote: I've seen mention of XBMC in this thread (and another). Please, no We need to deliver something, preferably before April 2016, not go off at a tangent. ;) I only used XBMC as an example of a successful community-driven software project. I certainly wouldn't want us to tie ourselves to it in any shape or form. JackOfAll wrote: With regard to software, LMS is the server backend. (Like it or loathe it. Until someone has a replacement up and running it's no use doing anything other than using what we have today.) Totally agree, but I'd like to think we can ensure the hardware, drivers and software being delivered -now- won't prevent the opportunity for an LMS replacement -in the future- by locking us to it. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box Mnyb wrote: Cant agree more , i picked one just to keep the most hideous ones out off the loop . There is always an option to not name the product , if no good names are suggested that's what I think is best alternative . I suspect you may be right. For Round 2 we'll include a none of the above option, meaning no name will be chosen at this time. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box DJanGo wrote: So i think its a waste of time and a young schoolboydream nothing more. Well I agree on one point - anybody who thinks this is going to sell millions and make its contributors rich needs a reality check. On the other hand, I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility to produce a device - maybe in kit form - that allows people who have already bought into the Squeezebox ecosystem to continue to grow their system despite the discontinuation of official Squeezebox hardware. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box ModelCitizen wrote: Oh dear. I think all of them are hideous. Please add a Let's think again option. I thought about adding that (unfortunately it won't let me now) but to be honest it's a bit of a given - if the general populace don't like the name that comes out top, people won't use it. What this whole thing has shown is that choosing a decent name for any new device is hard, especially when the contributors are all musos and geeks. Personally, I think people are taking this far too seriously. If we come up with a name we can use until somebody (with real talent) comes up with a better one, it has to be easier than calling it Community Funded Squeezebox. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box Pascal Hibon wrote: I agree with the majority here ; I dont like any of the proposed names (although I voted on one). Why dont we keep Community Funded Squeezebox or CFS for now? Like I wrote earlier, if this is a community effort, and not an official company, then we can continue to use the name Squeezebox. It clearly indicates that none of us are marketing people :-) OK, how about this: We'll pit the top 1 or 2 from this poll against the default Community Funded Squeezebox (CFS) in the next round? This would be a good vote-of-no-confidence for the chosen name from this round. Y'know, I only dragged this naming thing into a new thread to avoid clogging up the technical discussions in the main thread, but I seem to have become rather attached to it ;) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
dustinsterk wrote: I like the poll but feel that Harmonic should still be on the list. It did have a +3. :) I liked Harmonic too, but I thought it was too close to Harmonix and nobody screamed at me to add it back to the list. If I could add it to the poll now, I would... simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box lrossouw wrote: My suggestion would be: 1. Go back to the full list of nominations and running a very large poll listing all of them perhaps with multiple (say 5) votes allowed? 2. Remove half the choices with the lowest/no votes. 2. Repeat with the reduced list once or twice until you have 5 options left. Then do a final one vote per member round. The forum's voting tool only allows a maximum of 10 entries. I originally thought those with +1s could be shortlisted, but there are even more than 10 of those, which I why I went with +2 or more. The other issue is that more names are coming out of the woodwork daily... and there are plenty of people who don't like any of them :-) lrossouw wrote: I think the vetting process seems to have not worked. To be honest that was kind of my reason for bringing this to a head by using this poll... ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box castalla wrote: If there's any sort of re-run. then I really must insist that Community Radio Audio Player is included ... OK, only if Synchronised HiFi Integrated Transporter is there too. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
CharlieG wrote: +1 This was also brought up before. Should it be on the list? Yeah probably.. I'll add it to the next round, along with Harmonic. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
When do we want to start voting? My thinking is that only suggestions with more than one vote (+2 or more) will be in the shortlist. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
castalla wrote: I hope it isn't going to be a first-past-the-post vote At the very least, it should be top 2 names enter a run-off. Good point. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
chill wrote: While I'm at it, how about SB4, SB5 etc? Do you think Logitech have trademarked the general pattern? I'd be surprised if they could claim SB-n- as opposed to Squeezebox -n-. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
I've come to the conclusion this marketing stuff is harder than I thought. I also can't believe I just admitted that. I'll stick with the IT business a little while longer. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
OK I've had enough of this malarkey. I'm posting the shortlist as a poll to see where it leads us. If we hate the name, we'll just end up calling it GEN-x- anyway. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 Question: What should we call this new device? - Vuvuzela - OpEncore - Melodia - Zela - Brikk - FLÄKK - Open Music Box After weeks of deliberation, fighting and lobbying, the public have narrowed down the suggestions for the (potential) Community-Funded Squeezebox to 7 choices. Nobody likes most of them, and plenty despise all of them. This hasn't stopped most democratic countries from stumbling along, and neither will it stop us. So without further adieu, here we have The Vote (Round 1*). The nominations are... *Vuvuzela *- You probably know that squeezebox is also a colloquial term for an accordion, so it stands to reason that its spiritual offspring should also be named after an instrument. Clarinet? Harpsichord? No, let's go with the Vuvuzela; infamously known for being the prevalent sound of the 2010 FIFA World Cup, who's distraction caused insert your team to bow out prematurely. (Suggested by castalla) *OpEncore *- Blending two words together is cool. Encore means again in French, and is often used to entice performers back onto stage at the end of a musical event. It may be subtle, but it strikes parallels with the aims of this project, and of course the new device will be open-source. Open - Encore - OpEncore. (Suggested by erland/simbo) *Melodia *- Melodies are nice, and as it happens Melodia means pleasant song in Latin, which also makes us sound clever and little pretentious. But this is a music playing device, it comes with the territory. (Suggested by erland) *Zela *- A play on the oh-so-popular Vuvuzela (see above) but without the connotations of a tinnitus-like buzz that you still can't get out of your head three years on. But it's also a nice word in itself and rolls off the tongue well. It's also so tenuous you can explain it to your mates down the pub time and time again. (Suggested by simbo) *Brikk *- Perhaps a nod to the final resting state of the GEN1 models, it also nicely describes its purpose - a solid-looking box that sits near your HiFi and acts as the cornerstone of your home music solution. See what I did there? (Suggested by Mnyb) *FLÄKK *- No, not an Ikea bookcase, but perhaps a reference to the file format de jour and darling of this community; older members will remind us that the first Slim device was called the SliMP3, harking back to a more innocent, compressed age. Let's hope it doesn't come flat-packed. (Suggested by Ghandi) *Open Music Box* - Here is a box. A musical box. A product that delivers exactly as described; a box that plays music, and it's open (in a software and hardware development sense). On another level it's a nostalgic reference to the children's toys that open up to reveal a magical world. Or something. (Suggested by erland) * As for Round 2, let's see where this goes first, eh? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
d6jg wrote: I like the look of it and had a bit of a read. It's pricey and I think it might be flawed. In the bumph I read it talked about a single optical connection to TV and nothing about HDMI which means you are going to be reliant on your TV passing digital sound out from connected devices eg Satelitte box, blu-ray etc. That's not a common feature is it? Or have I misread the bumph I have seen? Interesting... I'm sure one of its selling points was that you could play music even when your TV is off. I'm not sure how that would work even *if* you have a TV with digital passthrough. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android App Developers - Your mission if you chose to accept it
I know it's not very Squeezeboxy (nor does it integrate with LMS) but wouldn't Google Music cover a lot of these bases? It's far from perfect (it won't let me decide where to place the files on my phone, and it seems to ignore replay gain settings) but I do like the fact I can build up a playlist via a PC browser and it'll automatically keep it in sync on the phone. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sonos PlayBar...
As much as I'm averse to the Sonos environment, I think they might be onto something with this new 'PlayBar' (http://www.whathifi.com/news/sonos-enters-the-home-cinema-market-with-the-sonos-playbar) of theirs. It's a soundbar, so naturally aimed at the people who want to move up from the speakers in their TV but aren't ready for full surround sound, but - and here's the killer - it also gets them onto the Sonos bandwagon, which leads to them buying more Sonos kit. You have to hand it to them. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
My original feeling was that GEN1, being a proof-of-concept, should try to push the boundaries beyond what a normal user (whatever they are) would want, and if that means USB DAC support, so be it. I don't think we should be worrying about the market until GEN2. Knowing the GEN1 can do everything that will be expected of the GEN2 - and more - will make GEN2 development much easier IMO. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
BenH73 wrote: (although searching on both of these comes up with existing products) If there's one thing the 'Apple vs Apple' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer) cases have shown, it's that similarly-named brands can co-exist as long as they don't converge in the music industry. Unfortunately both of these names do! :) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
slate wrote: Pulp - biproduct after squeezing juice Would Jarvis Cocker approve? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
OK new rule: You're not allowed to suggest a new name without voting for an existing one too :-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
norman12 wrote: I wasn't going to bother designing anything for GEN1, I thought the dev guys could nail it to a plank of wood while working on it, although I'm happy to do so if needs be. I think GEN1 will need something, but I agree it doesn't have to be special, just functional. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
castalla wrote: It was meant to supplement the awful list of names appearing here ... Aww, I was gonna suggest merDevices. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
Mnyb wrote: why not let the developers decide , then it's probably gets as bad as squeezebox . I have a sneaky suspicion half the people on here are developers. All the marketing guys have Sonos. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
cooppw02 wrote: 1. It shouldn't encroach on someone else's name/trademark/IP. - BelCanto is out: as has been mentioned, there is a hifi company by that name. - You'll probably get a nastygram from Logitech if you were to use the phrases Squeeze or Slim or the like anywhere in the title. If people let me know of those that mean condom in Buryat, then I'll cross them out. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
dustinsterk wrote: 4) Case design - norman12 I assume this doesn't cover the -fabrication- of the case too... anyone got a 3D printer? :) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Mnyb wrote: DSD I suggest someone writes a server transcoder for that to pcm I know GEN1 is going to be using the slimproto architecture, but if/when there is a desire to design a new architecture going forward, there's a danger that any work done now could be lost. I'd suggest sticking to the basics for the moment, unless they're confident it wouldn't be wasted effort. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
epoch1970 wrote: +1 for Vuvuzela :D chill wrote: -1 for Vuvuzela :D lrossouw wrote: +1 again from the country that punished the world with it ;) epoch1970 wrote: (seriously. If Vuvuzela gets picked, then only for GEN1, please ) OK, how about a compromise. *Zela*! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
erland wrote: We can probably continue this forever Yup, but there's no rush :) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Could we get a Slim in there? In homage to the original creators? :-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I've created a separate thread for a discussion on the naming, to ease up this thread for more primary discussions... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97975 simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
Oh and my personal contribution... SlimStream :-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
TheLastMan wrote: The last few posts remind me of a Douglas Adams's Hitch Hiker story that humans are the descendants of exiled Golgafrinchan management consultants, hair dressers, telephone sanitizers and marketing executives. The Golgafrinchan race thought they would be so much better off without all the useless service sector workers and middle management. So they stuck them on a space ship and shot them across the galaxy. They eventually landed on the Earth where they set about trying to establish civilization. There was a marketing executive character who was working on developing the wheel but she was struggling to get started because she couldn't decide what colour it should be. I think Mr Adams may have been on to something... :-) The way I look at it, these kind of what shall we call it? discussions are inevitable, and as long as they don't detract from the more pressing discussions over architecture and design (which is why I wanted to separate them out) then I see no harm... I think they're actually a good thing as they give contributors a sense of ownership and community. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
How about some musically-themed words? Coda, Forte, Libero, etc? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
asplundj wrote: Libero is a diaperbrand Ha ha! And that's exactly why we'd need international representation! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
erland wrote: - OpenEnCore Or OpEncore ;-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
dustinsterk wrote: As the names are added can we keep a running list on the first post? We should also think about turning this into a poll as we will need to vote at some point in time. :) --Dustin OK done, but the list is getting a little long and I'm not sure every idea is serious ;-) Here's my suggestion; *names that get multiple votes (+1) will be shortlisted, and from there we can have a poll.* Such a shame that Vuvuzela vote got cancelled out simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
dustinsterk wrote: 1) Hardware design and implementation - John S. 2) Compiling OS/Building a bootable image/Writing automated scripts/Etc (this will break out much further in the future) - Dustin (Me) 3) Squeezelite Player - Triode 4) Case design - ? (Any designers out there with CAD abilities) 5) Distribution - ? (Depending if we need to ship to just one location and then send out to buyers from there) 6) Marketing/Name of the new product- This is really for in the future but never to early to start thinking about it 7) Website Creation/Technical Hosting of files, scripts, news, shipping updates, product updates, etc. - (Not sure we want to have these items spread all throughout this forum...I think we should have a dedicated site) A couple more to add... 8) Licensing (looking into feasibility of signing up subscriptions services, radio services, etc.) 9) Localisation simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
dustinsterk wrote: I would say we are still too early to tell. This could range from manuals/websites to UI on the player itself (for GEN2). I was initially thinking of string translation tables for the UI, but it could cover all those areas and more. Maybe just a form of representation from major regions would be a good start, to ensure the product doesn't become US/UK-centric (as many often do). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
erland wrote: My suggestion would be to keep the thread focused at point 1-3 and possibly 4 and 5 because those are the only ones needed to start experimenting with GEN1 hardware. The future after GEN1 is best decided and discussed either in a separate thread or later when GEN1 has been released. Although I agree 1-5 are the most critical, they're not necessarily prerequisites to the later areas. I think we need to structure the discussions into the various streams... Is there a way we could manage this, either through this forum or another? I would personally like to see a whole forum devoted to this, categorised by the streams being discussed. Perhaps your Google Discussions board could do this? I'm not sure of the functionality available there. One thing's for sure, this thread is going to become unmanageable soon! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better hurry, Squeezeboxes getting more expensive
Maybe not everywhere... http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/squeezebox-radio-49-91-squeezebox-touch-89-91-pc-world-instore-store-specific-1385585 simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97469 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
The lack of Napster/Spotify on non-SB devices has been the only barrier to me following a similar path. I don't use them much, but I want to have the RIGHT to, goddamit! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
I've compared an SB3 (Classic) with a Joggler, and I can safely say, even without a double-blind-ab-test, that the analogue output of the SB3 is far superior to the Joggler. Like you I tried swapping out my main SB with the Joggler as it's aesthetically nicer and easier to control, but the sound quality made me immediately switch it back. Another problem I found was that the volume level coming out of the Joggler was too low, which meant I had to up the preamp db level, which caused a nasty pop when it turned on. A USB audio dongle is the way to go I think if you want to use the Joggler, as long as you don't mind it sticking out the side, or you get a 90-degree cable and stick it behind. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
DannyKudos wrote: Thanks Simbo. Good to hear from someone with first hand experience. Did you ever try it with an external sound card ? Unfortunately not... I've now relegated it to my study and pass it through some basic speakers :-( EDIT: jimbobvfr400's post above shows some excellent experiences. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple to create competitor to Pandora
I agree, but Apple are so good at selling these services in an integrated fashion that even when it -is- possible to use a different service, the vast majority of Apple consumers would still flock to Apple's own one. It's something that even Google haven't been able to emulate (for better or for worse). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96344 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
erland wrote: So, let's try to keep this community active and let's keep encourage the creativity among all third party developers and let's continue being helpful to users with problems. Let's all be part of the next journey to musical bliss, I'm definitely ready for the ride! I agree with everything you say, but that last paragraph does sound like a battle speech from Game of Thrones... simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
It's a shame the O2 Jogglers ('OpenFrame7'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?64373-OpenFrame-remote-for-SB))
are so hard to come by nowadays.
I have one, 'running SqueezePlay'
(http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/squeezeplay-os). The only downside
is the poor quality internal sound (with headphone socket) but I believe
some people have attached audio dongles instead. In effect it's a Touch
with a 7-inch screen.
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Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
bobkoure wrote: Last time I checked (which to be fair was about two years ago) synching with squeezeslave worked fine (ss with ss and ss with sb). The Pi is SS, so maybe a non-issue? I think you were just lucky with your hardware config! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
pallfreeman wrote: Without some heavyweight algorithms to cope with the rubbish timers in most hardware, it really depends on how much work the developer is prepared to do to get it right on a specific platform. It may be possible to create a set of latency profiles for specific hardware configurations (simple ones, like a Pi + a particular model of sound dongle). These would need to be maintained by the community, but would also need some support from the player software to allow these different profiles to be loaded. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
*IF* it comes to a situation where -up-front- funding is needed to get LMS maintained post-Logitech, perhaps there should be a 'Kickstarter' (http://www.kickstarter.com/) fund going? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
Another issue with SqueezePlay is that not all online services allow streaming through it. I know Rhapsody UK (fka Napster) are one of those. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
castalla wrote: Why Rapsody? Guess because you use that. I don't, so I would be totally against it. It's a bad business model. I think that was just an example. As much as I'm against the idea of my SB being tied to a particular service, I think mortslim is being a realist and speculating on financially viable options. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
BTHOEM wrote: The decent thing of Logitech to do, would be to secure the continued satisfaction of their Squeezebox customer base by submitting the Squeezebox technology to Open Source [...] That is the least I would expect of a company the size of Logitech. Why would they do that? They're a company not a charity. What's in it for them? I doubt they want competition for their newly-branded UE outfit from a technology they used to control. Anyway, much of the SB technology is already open source anyway, and many of the remaining proprietary parts are licensed to them. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ask Rhapsody if it is interested in managing mysqueezebox.com
This is only a short hop away from seeing Rhapsody-branded players on the shelves, manufactured by Logitech. Bear in mind Logitech (used to?) make mice etc for Microsoft, so it's not an area that's alien to them. I'd need to think about the pros and cons (to us as consumers) to your idea, but my knee-jerk feeling is a negative one - I don't like the idea of being tied into a single online service, especially as it's an emerging area that still has a lot of potential for growth and innovation. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I envy those who feel content to let their Squeezeboxen plod along with local access and limited functionality. Naturally those who are concerned by the potential loss of online services are most likely to be those who use them currently, but I think for many of us our expectations are slightly different... One of the things that initially appealed to me when I got my first SB was the -extensibility-. When the first Squeezeboxes hit the shelves there was little notion of online streaming services, social music services and the like. The amazing thing about the Squeezebox line has been it's ability to adapt to the changes in the way we listen to music, and to allow existing SB owners to benefit from these changes. Even now, Rhapsody and Spotify won't be the last word in online music services and we're likely to see new and novel services appear in the future as the music industry (finally) comes into the 21st Century. What -has- changed now, is that we can't (smugly) rest on our laurels knowing that our Squeezeboxes will reap the benefits of these changes, thanks to a savvy purchase oh-so-many years ago and some funding that we can't really claim our initial purchase to have supported. My expectations of the Squeezebox remain the same, even in the face of this news, but now we can't rely on Logitech to meet those expectations; it falls to us as Squeezebox users. I would genuinely like to be involved, in whatever small way, in keeping the Squeezebox alive. Mostly because I'm buggered if I'm going to fork out for a replacement. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] So when's the fire sale, Logitech?
...Just asking :-) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Grumpy Bob wrote: There's not a HiFi quality player Which I find very odd, as Ultimate Ears made/make very good quality earphones (I have a set). Looks like this'll upset UE fans as much as us. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Grumpy Bob wrote: I think garym is absolutely correct - most people are happy with their 128k mp3s played from an iPod or a phone through a dock. It almost makes you pine for the midi-hifi days of the 80's. At least people understood the need for large(r) speakers to fill rooms with sound. What next? Go back to 14 TVs in the corner of the room? simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
RonM wrote: I don't know, there still seem to be lots of people buying high-end speakers out there. I suspect that the same demographic who bought great speakers to play vinyl on in the 50s and 60s and who converted to digital sources (CDs) in the 80s will be doing so going forward. There has always been a large element of the music-listening public for whom quality of reproduction was less important. That's the demographic that bought all the small component kits and the boomboxes with tape players (and later CD players) built in. Granted the ubiquity of cloud-based music and the iTunes purchase world has changed things, but how much, really? I know it's anecdotal, but I'm amazed when I go to (richer) people's houses with big rooms, massive TVs and high-end furniture, then they have an basic iPod dock/speaker kit for their music needs, playing their collection of 128kpbs iTunes tracks. I think the demographic you describe are dwindling in favour of convenience. Just like your TV-to-smartphone comparison. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
garym wrote: As long as mysb.com stays alive, I can go on for years, and probably will. ...as long as Rhapsody, last.fm, TuneIn, etc don't change their APIs. Which they will. If there's no incentive to update mysb.com it *will* die. Sonos remains the only viable competitor, and an overpriced one at that. I certainly have no intention of replacing my investment in SB devices so quickly. I think our best bet is for the programmers amongst us to come up with an open source equivalent to mysb.com, but that can't happen without support from Logitech (or the old-guard employees). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] raspberry pi
For those interested, a thread to keep an eye on... http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/projects-and-collaboration-general/squeeze-player-on-the-raspberry-pi -- simbo *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93954 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] raspberry pi
bonze;695478 Wrote: Interesting, so with a raspberry hacked Squeezeplayer they could avoid buying any hardware?? I'm surprised Logitech still allow this to happen Golden Goose anyone? I don't think Logitech need to fear. There have been SB-alikes around for a while, from Softsqueeze to 'hacked Jogglers' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78759). Some of them make great casual or hobby players, but none have the reliability or simplicity of dedicated hardware. In fact I think the SB ecosystem from having them available. -- simbo *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93954 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Napster transfer to Rhapsody - what should we do?
That's great news! Thanks for investigating! -- simbo *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93843 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
