Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi I wondered if any progress had been made on xbox360 support with Whitebear and if anyone had it working? Most other clients seem to work nicely with Whitebear, but I can't get the xbox to see the server at all from its Music Player. I've been able to see other UPNP servers on the same server from the xbox, but I really like the Whitebear approach as LMS is my main server and my main devices are all SBs. When the xbox tries to discover the servers, in the logs I see 11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 138 bytes v2.4.0.2890 192.168.1.5:20385 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1 Host: 239.255.255.250:1900 Man: ssdp:discover MX: 2 ST: urn:schemas-microsoft-com:service:MSContentDirectory:1 11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 131 bytes v2.4.0.2890 192.168.1.5:15943 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1 Host: 239.255.255.250:1900 Man: ssdp:discover MX: 2 ST: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1 repeated 3 times then nothing. Any ideas? ta pete S psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
psketch wrote:
I wondered if any progress had been made on xbox360 support with
Whitebear and if anyone had it working? Most other clients seem to work
nicely with Whitebear, but I can't get the xbox to see the server at all
from its Music Player. I've been able to see other UPNP servers on the
same server from the xbox, but I really like the Whitebear approach as
LMS is my main server and my main devices are all SBs.Unfortunately I don't
have an xbox so I cannot test it myself. However
perhaps, if you are willing to help me, we can jointly get it to
work...
Code:
11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 138 bytes v2.4.0.2890
192.168.1.5:20385 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1
Host: 239.255.255.250:1900
Man: ssdp:discover
MX: 2
ST: urn:schemas-microsoft-com:service:MSContentDirectory:1
11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 131 bytes v2.4.0.2890
192.168.1.5:15943 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1
Host: 239.255.255.250:1900
Man: ssdp:discover
MX: 2
ST: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1
repeated 3 times then nothing. Any ideas?
Did you turn on Whitebear's logging for M-SEARCH Responses? If not can
you please try this?
Whitebear does not support the Microsoft proprietary
urn:schemas-microsoft-com:service:MSContentDirectory:1 service, but
you should see it sending a response to the
urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1 request...
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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote:
Unfortunately I don't have an xbox so I cannot test it myself. However
perhaps, if you are willing to help me, we can jointly get it to
work...
Code:
11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 138 bytes v2.4.0.2890
192.168.1.5:20385 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1
Host: 239.255.255.250:1900
Man: ssdp:discover
MX: 2
ST: urn:schemas-microsoft-com:service:MSContentDirectory:1
11:19:55.190 TUPnP_MulticastListener 131 bytes v2.4.0.2890
192.168.1.5:15943 Recv : M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1
Host: 239.255.255.250:1900
Man: ssdp:discover
MX: 2
ST: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1
repeated 3 times then nothing. Any ideas?
Did you turn on Whitebear's logging for M-SEARCH Responses? If not can
you please try this?
Whitebear does not support the Microsoft proprietary
urn:schemas-microsoft-com:service:MSContentDirectory:1 service, but
you should see it sending a response to the
urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1 request...
Hi Andrew
Yes, happy to work with you on this. I'll enable that logging later and
come back to you - shall we switch this to PM for now?
pete S
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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
psketch wrote: Yes, happy to work with you on this. I'll enable that logging later and come back to you - shall we switch this to PM for now? Great. I will send you a PM now. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Andrew, I posted about an issue I have (metadata/song is sent from MC to LMS but nothing is played) in the JRiver Media Center forum with all details, http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73748.0, and wonder if you could be so kind to have a look when you have the time. Or do you prefer I post here? Thanks. vagskal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
vagskal wrote: ... wonder if you could be so kind to have a look when you have the time. Or do you prefer I post here? I will look at it and respond in the MC Forum. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Is it possible to customize the names of the Whitebear server and renderers? I don't like that it adds '(by Whitebear)' to the names. IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
IMGrant wrote: Is it possible to customize the names of the Whitebear server and renderers? I don't like that it adds '(by Whitebear)' to the names. Ummm. Well, no... (I don't get paid for this, so the reward is my advertising...) AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: Ummm. Well, no... (I don't get paid for this, so the reward is my advertising...) Shame, but that's fair enough I suppose. (Feel guilty for not having donated now, maybe I'll have to rectify that!) IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Does anyobne know if it is possible to run WB on a Thecus n5200. And, if so, how? Thanks. Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Morph666 wrote: What would be great is to use xbmc in normal way to play music and send the music to squeezebox. Is this possible in any way? Yes xbmc should be able to Play To your Squeezebox (by Whitebear). You need to check that it is a fairly recent version that has the capability to stream files as PCM. Otherwise it will only be able to play MP3. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: Yes xbmc should be able to Play To your Squeezebox (by Whitebear). You need to check that it is a fairly recent version that has the capability to stream files as PCM. Otherwise it will only be able to play MP3. Ok, that would be awsome! I have tried to figure out how to do it, but with no luck.. Any idea? Morph666's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
batka wrote: I wonder whether is it possible to use Whitebear with a remote Squeezebox Server? However it would be a great feature if the IP also could be specified, so that Whitebear would connect to remote Squeezebox Server. Unfortunately this is not possible because Whitebear also needs direct access to the file system on the PC where the SBS music library is located. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Andrew! I wonder whether is it possible to use Whitebear with a remote Squeezebox Server? I mean this: My Squeezebox Server runs on a Linux box (OpenSUSE 12.1). Then from the Windows PC, I would control the Squeezebox through UPNP, using Whitebear. It is working if the Whitebear runs on same server as the Squeezebox Server. Currently, if I understand correctly, Whitebear controls Squeezebox Server only if it is running on same server. In Whitebear settings, the Squeezbox Server HTTP and CLI port can be specified. However it would be a great feature if the IP also could be specified, so that Whitebear would connect to remote Squeezebox Server. What do you think? Thanks Gy�rgy batka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
bsmith1051 wrote: Isn't this the functionality that Whitebear is supposed to add? Yes, LMS added this in v7.7 (or v7.6 I don't recall). But Whitebear had it first !! So you have two options: a) use the LMS UPnP/DLNA plugin, or b) use Whitebear. IMHO Whitebear still provides better functionality, and faster and mor dynamic support. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I have LMS 7.7.2 and a Logitech Radio, and have now added a Sony DLNA-compliant box to my home stereo. Using any of the myriad DLNA/UPnP apps on my Android phone, I can see LMS as an available server and both the Sony and the Logitech Radio as available renderers. Isn't this the functionality that Whitebear is supposed to add? bsmith1051's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
*Setting up Windows Media Player 12 to play FLAC files to a UPnP/DLNA Renderer (Player) via the Play To command* -*Note*: the following only works on Windows Media Player 12 running on Windows 7 or Vista- 1) Uninstall any previously installed *DirectShow* codecs related to playing FLAC files; reboot the PC to make sure all is clean. 2) Install this *Windows Media Foundation* codec http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac/files/ on your PC; reboot the PC to make sure all is clean. 3) Install *WMP Tag Plus* http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/ on your PC; reboot the PC to make sure all is clean. 4a) In Windows Media Player | Organise | Manage libraries | Music = Remove your music folder | Ok 4b) In Windows Media Player | Organise | Manage libraries | Music = Add your (same) music folder | Ok -- wait until the library has reloaded itself... 5) In Windows Media Player | Stream | Automatically allow devices to play my media 6) In Windows Media Player, select a flac file and Play To | Player (by Whitebear) -- for example 7a) Only if 6) does not work: In Windows Media Player | Stream | More streaming options | All Networks | click unknown device and if its MAC address is that of your Squeeze box, then Customise | Make all of the media in my library available to this device. 7b) Only if 6) still does not work: In Windows Media Player | Stream | More streaming options | All Networks | for Your Player (by Whitebear) | Customise | Make all of the media in my library available to this device. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
First of all - thank you for your time and patience - really appreciated! But still - not completely clear = some more questions. :-) AndrewFG wrote: Whitebear does two things: 1) *UPnP Digital Media Server*: Whitebear allows an open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Control Point to browse your proprietary LMS/SBS music library. And it serves the respective music tracks in that library to an open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Digital Media Renderer (player). (So for example you can use your TV Set screen and remote control to browse your LMS/SBS music library (by Whitebear), and select tracks and play them via the TV speakers). To my knowledge, LMS is DLNA compliant. Right? Suppose I would have a TV that is also DLNA compliant and is equiped with control point software, than the combi (LMS TV) would bring me browsing and playing sound and video. Right? With this use-case scenario in mind and assuming that I'm overlooking something: what is the value of Whitebear? AndrewFG wrote: 2) *UPnP Digital Media Renderer*: Whitebear presents all your Squeeze boxes as open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Digital Media Renderer's (players). This allows other UPnP/DLNA compliant Control Points to play music to your Squeeze boxes by means of the Play To functionality. So if you want to stream Mp3s from your laptop to Squeeze players (by Whitebear) then you need to install a Control Point software on your laptop. Possible Control Points could be FooBar with UPnP Plug-In (free), Asset Control (free), or J. River Media Centre (paid); (there are also various UPnP Control Point apps for the various tablet systems). Ok - this is clear. No further questions here. NogNeetMachinaal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
NogNeetMachinaal wrote: what is the value of Whitebear? At a basic level, the LMS/SBS DLNA plug-in does the same thing as Whitebear; but IMHO the plug-in is not compatible with some Control Points and Renderers, and it lacks features too. But if the LMS/SBS DLNA plug-in works for you please use it; whereas if it doesn't, disable the plug-in and use Whitebear instead. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: At a basic level, the LMS/SBS DLNA plug-in does the same thing as Whitebear; but IMHO the plug-in is not compatible with some Control Points and Renderers, and it lacks features too. But if the LMS/SBS DLNA plug-in works for you please use it; whereas if it doesn't, disable the plug-in and use Whitebear instead. Ah - ok. This helps. :-) So if I disable the plugin on LMS and install Whitebear, which application serves which request? And how do these two communicate with each other - if at all? For example, are the Squeezeboxes served by LMS (for example due to the sync-ing). And the DLNA requests served by Whitebear? Because Whitebear can not keep Squeezeboxes in sync? Do you understand what I'm trying to figure out? NogNeetMachinaal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
NogNeetMachinaal wrote: So if I disable the plugin on LMS and install Whitebear, which application serves which request? And how do these two communicate with each other - if at all? Whitebear provides a UPnP/DLNA open system front end to LMS/SBS proprietary back end. And yes, of course Whitebear talks to LMS/SBS (it uses the CLI interface) NogNeetMachinaal wrote: For example, are the Squeezeboxes served by LMS (for example due to the sync-ing). And the DLNA requests served by Whitebear? The Squeezeboxes are independent devices on the network. The Control Point sends UPnP/DLNA player commands to Whitebear, which in turn sends CLI commands to LMS/SBS, which in turn sends low level proprietray commands to the players. If the command is play this Url then the Squeezebox may contact the remote server and download and play that track. NogNeetMachinaal wrote: Because Whitebear can not keep Squeezeboxes in sync? Unfortunately the UPnP/DLNA standard has no functionality for synchronised playing. (Except trivially the Control Point can send the same Play To command to more than one player...) NogNeetMachinaal wrote: Does Whitebear have some sort of an interface to configure things. For example to enable or disable broadcasting on all interfaces? Or to configure the transcoding. Yes. Although UPnP advertisements are sent on all interfaces and there is no function to disable that. And UPnP/DLNA transcoding works by the server (Whitebear) offerring multiple formats, and the client selecting its preferred choice from those offers; so the configuration just determines which formats are offerred in which order. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: This confirms my suspicion that the problem is on the side of your codecs. And *not* a problem with Whitebear. Hi Wigster, I found you a solution. I sent you a PM explaining it. Please test it, and if it works, I will publish it here. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi *, I sort-off stumbled over this Whitebear Media Server. At this time, I can not see the benefits on using it allong with LMS. Can someone enlighten me? Regards, Will NogNeetMachinaal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Pretty well explained on the home page. http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver - UPnP/DLNA support for non SB players - DLNA renderer for SB players - transcoding to DLNA hardware limited codecs - no need to run multiple servers (LMS for SB players, another server program for UPnP/DLNA players) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
A slightly less heterodox use of White Bear is to play music located on any DLNA-supporting machine on the network out through your stereo. Whitebear creates a Media Renderer target that is your Squeezebox which you can use through (for example) Windows Media Player's Play To feature. This way, you don't have to put all your music in the same place and have to rescan everything. Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Wigster wrote: A slightly less heterodox use of White Bear is to play music located on any DLNA-supporting machine on the network out through your stereo. Whitebear creates a Media Renderer target that is your Squeezebox which you can use through (for example) Windows Media Player's Play To feature. This way, you don't have to put all your music in the same place and have to rescan everything. So in other words: If I have another collection of MP3 stored on my laptop (for example), I can use Whitebear to stream these to the Squeezebox(es) without copying and rescanning. The Logitech Media Server is used as a sort of proxy server to keep things in sync across multiple players (if more than one). NogNeetMachinaal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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NogNeetMachinaal wrote: So in other words: If I have another collection of MP3 stored on my laptop (for example), I can use Whitebear to stream these to the Squeezebox(es) without copying and rescanning. The Logitech Media Server is used as a sort of proxy server to keep things in sync across multiple players (if more than one). No... Whitebear does two things: 1) *UPnP Digital Media Server*: Whitebear allows an open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Control Point to browse your proprietary LMS/SBS music library. And it serves the respective music tracks in that library to an open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Digital Media Renderer (player). (So for example you can use your TV Set screen and remote control to browse your LMS/SBS music library (by Whitebear), and select tracks and play them via the TV speakers). 2) *UPnP Digital Media Renderer*: Whitebear presents all your Squeeze boxes as open standard UPnP/DLNA compliant Digital Media Renderer's (players). This allows other UPnP/DLNA compliant Control Points to play music to your Squeeze boxes by means of the Play To functionality. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster wrote: I cannot get WB to connect to SBS: WB is complaining that the CLI connection if offline, even though it does find the CLI server on port 9090. Edit 2: After a bunch of restarts, this seems to have cleared itself up. But I am not sure whether it is somehow related to the general problem I have. This is *not* related to your general problem. When you start Whitebear, it may take a minute or two to sort itself out. The reason is that initially it does not know the name of your music library, or how many Squeeze players you have connected, or the names of those players. So when it first starts up, takes itself online with SBS/LMS assuming a generic library name, and assuming zero players connected. Then obviously once it is talking to SBS/LMS it can discover the actual name of your music library, how many Squeeze players are connected, and their names. Then the generic name Whitebear with no players goes offline again, and the proper named Whitebear with all named players must go online. This may take 30..60 seconds to accomplish. Wigster wrote: Edit: if I restart SBS and WB I sometimes get Socket Error #10061 / Connection Refused instead. Can you confirm you are running Whitebear as a Windows service application? i.e. installed as Start when Windows Starts rather than Start manually. The #10061 error is normal when running Whitebear as a Windows service application: during the above-mentioned online/offline/online phase, the Whitebear Tray Monitor application tries to connect to the Whitebear service application to get its status, and since the service is not yet running, the connection is refused. Wigster wrote: I am PM you the HTTP server log resulting from my trying to play a local MP3 file to Squeezebox by WB from WMP-12. Let's try to solve this before looking at the FLACs. Ok. I will study your PM and get back to you. Note: in the meantime, I tried un-installing all WMP12 add on filters, codecs, plug-ins (no Shark, no WMP Tag Plus etc.) and in this pure native state, the WMP-12 Play To function works perfectly with all of the media formats natively supported by WMP (i.e. Mp3, Wav, Wma, Wmal, and I think also Aac). It is only when you install filters, codecs, plug-ins etc. that the trouble starts. Specifically installing the Shark codec pack does allow you to play flacs locally in WMP12, but it seems to mess royally with the Play To functionality. I believe this is a WMP-12 / Shark issue and not a Whitebear issue... AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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AndrewFG wrote: Ok. I will study your PM and get back to you. I believe this is a WMP-12 / Shark issue and not a Whitebear issue... I studied your log. it shows that WMP is talking to Whitebear, and send many SOAP GetXyz() commands and one single Stop() command to the player. All of these commands are received, understood and acknowledged by Whitebear. However what the log shows is that WMP does *not* send a SetAvTransportUri() command to tell the player to load your track. And also it does *not* send a Play() command to play anything either. This shows clearly that WMP is not sending the commands needed for it to execute the Play To functionality. This confirms my suspicion that the problem is on the side of your codecs. And *not* a problem with Whitebear. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi, So I've completely nuked all the prefs, uninstalled SBS and WB and then reinstalled them. However, now I cannot get WB to connect to SBS: WB is complaining that the CLI connection if offline, even though it does find the CLI server on port 9090. The configuration is completely generic currently, so I guess it should have been working fine? Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster wrote: That's the weirdest thing: With version 2.1 (and before) I could play both MP3 and FLAC. Then 2.2 broke the FLAC support and now that I've installed 2.3, mp3s don't work either, it seems in exactly the same way. I've tried going back to no avail, so I've no idea if it's just WB, the fact I changed SBS in the meantime or even the fact that Shark's codes were updated in between. ... I am not sure exactly which upgrade/change broke what. Please turn on logging of the Whitebear Http Server, and send me the log file. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster wrote: ...I am not sure exactly which upgrade/change broke what. What version of LMS are you running? I have a suspicion that 7.7.2 broke something, because for me now it also does not work any more. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi, I am not sure what happened, but somewhere between my running WB 2.1 (where everything worked) and installing 2.3, the playback of files in the WMP library to the Squeezebox broke. I have tried going back to WB 2.1, but this does not fix the issue anymore. I am not sure what is going on, but maybe you'll have an idea. Playback of music from the library being served by WB to SBS through the WMP-12 Play To feature works fine. When I try to play an MP3 file from the WMP library, the Play To windows opens, the Squeezebox/WB player gets set up, SBS stops playing whatever it was playing and then nothing. In the playlist, the title of the track appears followed by Contacting media server This actually had been happening with FLAC files since version 2.2, but now that I've installed 2.3, it also happens with the MP3s. Any ideas? Thanks! Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster wrote: I am not sure what happened, but somewhere between my running WB 2.1 (where everything worked) and installing 2.3, the playback of files in the WMP library to the Squeezebox broke. I have tried going back to WB 2.1, but this does not fix the issue anymore. At some point I did update from SBS 7.7.1 which worked to SBS 7.7.3, but I didn't test WB's behaviour then). I am not sure what is going on, but maybe you'll have an idea. What type of files are you trying to play from WMP to your SqueezePlayer (by Whitebear)? In my case, it always worked fine playing WMP native formats to a SqueezePlayer (by Whitebear), but I have *never* been able to get it to work playing non native WMP formats (say flac) to a SqueezePlayer (by Whitebear). You have in the past claimed that Shark add-in codecs allow this playback, but I have never been able to get the Shark codecs to work? (Perhaps you were mistaken about the Shark codecs ever working?) AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
That's the weirdest thing: With version 2.1 (and before) I could play both MP3 and FLAC. Then 2.2 broke the FLAC support and now that I've installed 2.3, mp3s don't work either, it seems in exactly the same way. I've tried going back to no avail, so I've no idea if it's just WB, the fact I changed SBS in the meantime or even the fact that Shark's codes were updated in between. Playback from Library (by WB) to Squeezebox (by WB) works fine both on MP3 and FLACs being served as PCM. I've been travelling a lot, so I haven't had as much time to listen to music at home, which is why I am not sure exactly which upgrade/change broke what. Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
papaiannis wrote: I thought that the WhiteBear proxy made a UPnP device look like a Logitech device to LMS. Wrong!! ( WhiteBear makes Logitech devices look like UPnP devices to UPnP control points... ) AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I'd like to have my popcorn c200 media server behaving as a squeezebox player. Given that c200 supports DLNA/UPnP rendering, may the Whitebear proxy be used to bridge a LMS to my c200? My ultimate target is to remotely control the c200/squeezeplayer with my Squeezebox Controller. Any help? Thank you. papaiannis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
papaiannis wrote: I'd like to have my popcorn c200 media server behaving as a squeezebox player. Given that c200 supports DLNA/UPnP rendering, may the Whitebear proxy be used to bridge a LMS to my c200? My ultimate target is to remotely control the c200/squeezeplayer with my Squeezebox Controller. Any help? Thank you. The Squeezebox Controller is only able to command Logitech devices. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: The Squeezebox Controller is only able to command Logitech devices. I thought that the WhiteBear proxy made a UPnP device look like a Logitech device to LMS. Therefore I hoped that my c200 could be selected as the current client in my squeezebox controller. Please note that I installed a LMS on the c200 and it works like a charm. Could this help in having the c200 behaving like a Logitech device? Thank you. papaiannis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG wrote: The Squeezebox Controller is only able to command Logitech devices. I thought that the WhiteBear proxy made a UPnP device look like a Logitech device to LMS. Therefore I hoped that my c200 could be selected as the current client in my squeezebox controller. Please note that I installed a LMS on the c200 and it works like a charm. Could this help in having the c200 behaving like a Logitech device? Thank you. papaiannis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
vinhattieu;697733 Wrote: I can play mp3s from WMP12 to my Touch, but cannot get Flacs to work. I've tried madFlac, then Win7Codecs 3.5.8, both with WMP Tag Plus installed, but nothing happens. Can anybody help me with that? Are you using Whitebear? Or LMS internal DLNA server? (The latter almost certainly won't work...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've tried both and none was working. -- vinhattieu vinhattieu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I can play mp3s from WMP12 to my Touch, but cannot get Flacs to work. I've tried madFlac, then Win7Codecs 3.5.8, both with WMP Tag Plus installed, but nothing happens. Can anybody help me with that? -- vinhattieu vinhattieu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;689796 Wrote: Sorry for relying so late: Well, it seems to just work on my setup. I have the Shark codecs for Win 7 installed (you need both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions, since WMP-12 is a 32-bit app) and set to their recommended settings. Hi Wigster, I finally got back to this topic because someone else has posted another thread about WMP on this forum. I cleaned out all my WMP codecs, and reinstalled the latest Shark set. And yes, I can now play all kinds of music files locally in WMP. But the Play To function still only almost works; which is to say that WMP does properly send the UPnP commands to set up playing, and Whitebear safely parses them and adds the track to the player's playlist. However when the Squeezeplayer tries to actually play the track WMP returns an HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request error. This means that the player and WMP are talking to each other, but that WMP does not want to serve the file. I suppose this could be a firewall issue, but when WMP is serving a natively supported mp3 track there is no error, and only when trying to serve a Shark transcoded flac track does the HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request error occur. = Any suggestions? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG;681862 Wrote: I have added support for SetNextAvTransportURI in Whitebear, but it turns out that JRMC does not call it. It seems they announced support for SetNextAvTransportURI in their RENDERER for those control points that support it, but they did not choose to support that feature temselves in their own control point (go figure). So adding the new feature to Whitebear is (currently) a pointless exercise. However I posted a comment about it on their forum... Update: I am delighted to announce that Whitebear v2.3 now fully supports SetNextAvTransportURI and so does J. River Media Center v17 -- This means that JRMC can deliver gapless playback on Playing To Squeeze players (by Whitebear). Indeed (really cool) if you have SBS/LMS set for cross-fade you can even have a negative gap between tracks. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Status Update: I have created a new test version of Whitebear which addresses the issues raised in this post. If have sent a PM to Wigster and )p( with a link where you guys can get it. The new test version also includes code to support Play To with gapless playback. This is currently under testing by the guys over at J. River. If I get positive feedback both here and on the J. River forum, that the fixes work, and that nothing else got broken, then I expect to post the new version officially in a few days time. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wombat66;690641 Wrote: Now, I believe something was mentioned about the possibility of gapless play? That will totally seal the deal!i am delighted that you like Whitebear. And you are correct: I am indeed working with the guys at J River to provide gapless play. expect a new release in ten days or so... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wow! I'm running Whitebear 2.2.2.2196 and I'm very pleased. I tried a version back in October 2010 and it wasn't working nearly as well a this one. I'm so glad I came back and gave it another try. As soon as I'm done writing this I'm going to be clicking on that donation button. BTW, I'm using JRiver Media Center 17, and with Whitebear pushing audio to a Squeezebox Boom and/or my Squeezebox Radio while controlling it all with JRemote from my iPhone. I'm so happy! Yes!!! Now, I believe something was mentioned about the possibility of gapless play? That will totally seal the deal! Looking forward! Cheers! -- Wombat66 Wombat66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;690311 Wrote: Unfortunately, with the new version I can no longer play the FLAC files from the local WMP library. Playing AACs works (although they still repeat once they reach the end and the progress bar and time remaining counter are completely off).Hmm. That one works and the other doesn't sounds unusual... What type of player are you using? Is it a Touch? Does it have in player support for Flac and not Aac? Or vice versa? And what version of SBS/LMS are you using? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Andrew, So I've tried out v2381. Unfortunately, with the new version I can no longer play the FLAC files from the local WMP library. Playing AACs works (although they still repeat once they reach the end and the progress bar and time remaining counter are completely off). The FLAC file appears in the PlayTo list, the interface seems to think it's playing for a few seconds (i.e. the pause button appears) and then it skips onto the next track in the list. Is there some subset of logs I could send to you from the two versions so you could compare? -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG;687129 Wrote: Hi Wigster, Although I installed the Shark codecs, WMP12 was still not able to stream flac files to Whitebear or Squeeze players. Could you please give me more details of what parts of Shark you installed, and how you set it up? I am running Windows 7 64 bit, and I am wondering if that makes any difference. Sorry for relying so late: Well, it seems to just work on my setup. I have the Shark codecs for Win 7 installed (you need both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions, since WMP-12 is a 32-bit app) and set to their recommended settings. I am also running a plugin called WMP Tag Plus, which allows me to add to the library the files which are not normally supported. Maybe this is a key? In addition, the server must have file access to the directory in which the music files are located: I am running the LMS service on the server using the same user as I use on the laptop, so that the permissions work out. You should be able to test if this is possible by browsing to the music folder through LMS's menus and playing the files (you may have to add some kind of link across machines?). Given the above, playing FLACS works perfectly fine. It is also possible to play AAC files in this way. However there is a problem: the same track will repeat over and over once it reaches the end instead of progressing onto the next track in the list. You have sent me a new version by PM: I am not sure whether you changed anything with regard to the above, but I'll let you know if there is any change. -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;689796 Wrote: I am also running a plugin called WMP Tag Plus, which allows me to add to the library the files which are not normally supported. Maybe this is a key? Yes that could be the cause (because I don't have that plug-in installed). I will give it a try, and keep you posted. Wigster;689796 Wrote: I am not sure whether this matters, ... I think that is unlikely to matter... Wigster;689796 Wrote: What doesn't work for either FLAC or AAC is skipping to a different point in the track. WIth the FLAC nothing happens, with the AAC, playing restarts from the beginning.Yes that sounds like a classic problem with LMS/SBS -- I can confirm your experience... ;-( Wigster;689796 Wrote: You have sent me a new version by PM: I am not sure whether you changed anything with regard to the above, but I'll let you know if there is any change.I changed quite a bit in the Play To functionality. Players should now display much more track meta data and album art. Also if you Play To with WAV, PCM or AIF, then Whitebear fixes the above mentioned LMS/SBS problems with Seek and Pause, by proxying the streams and applying the Seek internally itself. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG;687266 Wrote: This is a bug in Whitebear that I will fix in a forthcoming release.I posted some PMs to people involved in this thread, with a lonk where you can get the next pre-release version of Whitebear that should fix the various issues raised. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Andrew, thank you for the update. Makes sense now on how hard it was to consistently reproduce the problem :) Mike -- Mike C Mike C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
AndrewFG;686535 Wrote: Hi Mike, Thanks for the donation. Concerning no feedback from Whitebear, I need to understand more about your real problem... Many UPnP AV devices receive the incoming control commands, and immediately reflect back a virtual state change in LastChange that reflects what that command ought to have achieved. But Whitebear tries to reflect the actual physical state changes of the players. So, for example if a CP sends a stop command to Whitebear, then Whitebear forwards that stop command to the Squeeze player; but if the player is already in a stopped state, then no actual state change occurs, and so no LastChange event is triggered. And the other way round, if you start the Squeeze player by means of its local control buttons, then a LastChange event will be sent to the CP (so long as the CP has subscribed to the eventing system), even though the CP did not issue that play command itself. So can you please be more specific about what is not working for you, and under what circumstances? Hi Andrew, Few more details Using the Intel Dev Tools Media Controller app, I can control LMS via UPnP and Whitebear. So, if on the controller app, if I press play, the player starts playing. But, I do not see the change reflect on the Controller app. Same with volume controls. So, in short, Whitebear is executing commands fine but updates are not coming back to the controller app. This occurs with LMS, Whitebear, and the controller app on the same machine. With the controller app running on a different machine, everything works fine. I can also confirm the same behavior using JRMC on the 2 different machines. So, I am guessing there is some sort of networking issue on the machine hosting LMS and Whitebear? Mike -- Mike C Mike C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;683872 Wrote: Re: playing FLAC files through WB. 1) Now I can again play FLAC files in the local WMP library through WB on the Squeezebox using the Play To feature. I am running LMS 7.7.2, so it was not an issue with the server version. I guess there could be transcoding going on, I am not sure, but the SB receives FLC radio. So it all works again. However, as far as I can tell, you seem to think that (1) should not be working?Hi Wigster, Although I installed the Shark codecs, WMP12 was still not able to stream flac files to Whitebear or Squeeze players. Could you please give me more details of what parts of Shark you installed, and how you set it up? I am running Windows 7 64 bit, and I am wondering if that makes any difference. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Mike, I am still not seeing this issue. Can you please help me more? Mike C;687112 Wrote: I can also confirm the same behavior using JRMC on the 2 different machines.Let me understand: In test a) you were using the Intel CP + Whitebear + LMS on the same machine; and in test b) you were using JRMC + Whitebear + LMS on the same machine. Is that correct? Mike C;687112 Wrote: So, I am guessing there is some sort of networking issue on the machine hosting LMS and Whitebear?Whitebear talks to the CP via TCP/IP, and traffic originating and ending on the same node gets looped back internally inside the O/S or inside LAN interface. Is the machine actually still connected to the network, or is its network disabled at this time? Could you please record me a log from Whitebear? Turn on logging of Http Server and Http client (Gena -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Too clarify On server PC have LMS, Whitebear, and JRMC On client PC have JRMC In general, JRMC on the client PC reflects the state of Whitebear accurately (not 100%) On the server, JRMC often does not reflect the state of Whitebear. Control of Whitebear from this PC using JRMC works fine. So, my primary problem is that clients are accurately reflecting the state of Whitebear. Using JRMC on the server and PC to control the other instance of JRMC works fine and always accurate reflects the transport and renderer state. Log file is here http://www.mediafire.com/?4oi7acqtp5gosev -- Mike C Mike C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Mike C;687174 Wrote: So, my primary problem is that clients are not accurately reflecting the state of LMS/Whitebear. Hi Mr C, Thanks for the log file. There is quite a lot going on in this log: as far as I can determine, you have JRMC and Whitebear running on IP 192.168.1.2, another instance of JRMC running on 192.168.1.176, and a MiniUPnPC/1.3 running on 192.168.1.3 -- is that correct? Side comment: I can see from the trace that this MiniUPnPc/1.3 application is quite seriously buggy... But anyway, if I understand you correctly your issue relates to (lack of) status updates on transactions between JRMC and Whitebear within the 192.168.1.2 machine. Is that correct? If so, can you please stop the other JRMC on 192.168.1.176 and the MiniUPnPC/1.3 on 192.168.1.3, (so we are are testing the 192.168.1.2 stuff only), and please let me know if the problem goes away? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
What kind of problems are you seeing from the MiniUPnPc/1.3 on 192.168.1.3? -- Mike C Mike C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Mike C;687211 Wrote: What kind of problems are you seeing from the MiniUPnPc/1.3 on 192.168.1.3? Closing that app fixed the problem... The bug that I found in MiniUPnPc is that it does not comply to the UPnP specifications; in the code below its SOAPAction header is non compliant since it lacks a namespace prefix. Code: 192.168.1.3:64652 Recv : POST / HTTP/1.1 Host: 192.168.1.2:31416 User-Agent: Windows/1.3, UPnP/1.0, MiniUPnPc/1.3 Content-Length: 245 Content-Type: text/xml SOAPAction: #GetCommonLinkProperties Connection: Close Cache-Control: no-cache Pragma: no-cache However, MiniUPnPc is *not* the reason why Whitebear has problems in your rig; the real reason is that the application is subscribing to all event notification channels, as do both instances of JRMC. And Whitebear is properly sending event notifications to all three subscribers, but it turns out that some of the status changes behind the events are getting cleared before Whitebear has sent all the notifications, so the last subscriber is getting an empty notification. This is a bug in Whitebear that I will fix in a forthcoming release. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Andrew, thank you for the great extension to SB - just donated. I recently starting having a problem with UPnP. My control points see WhiteBear and can control players BUT there is no feedback from Whitebear. Using the Intel Dev Tools, I can invoke actions and get response but LastChange events do not seem to be generated or are something has gone wrong the network - what else would you need to trouble shoot. Mike -- Mike C Mike C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Small question. I use Inguz Audio's plugin with LMS. Is it possible with Whitebear to stream the processed signal by Inguz Audio plugin to UPNP streaming clients? -- Bert003 Bert003's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Mike C;686512 Wrote: I recently starting having a problem with UPnP. My control points see WhiteBear and can control players BUT there is no feedback from Whitebear. Using the Intel Dev Tools, I can invoke actions and get response but LastChange events do not seem to be generated or are something has gone wrong the network - what else would you need to trouble shoot.Hi Mike, Thanks for the donation. Concerning no feedback from Whitebear, I need to understand more about your real problem... Many UPnP AV devices receive the incoming control commands, and immediately reflect back a virtual state change in LastChange that reflect what that command ought to have achieved. But Whitebear tries to reflect the actual physical state changes of the players. So, for example if a CP sends a stop command to Whitebear, then Whitebear forwards that stop command to the Squeeze player; but if the player is already in a stopped state, then no actual state change occurs, and so no LastChange event is triggered. And the other way round, if you start the Squeeze player by means of its local control buttons, then a LastChange event will be sent to the CP (so long as the CP has subsribed to the eventing system), even though the CP did not issue that play command itself. So can you please be more specific about what is not working for you, and under what circumstances? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Bert003;686515 Wrote: I use Inguz Audio's plugin with LMS. Is it possible with Whitebear to stream the processed signal by Inguz Audio plugin to UPNP streaming clients?Sorry but I don't know enough about Inguz to answer this. What does Inguz do? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I made another pre- version of Whitebear that addresses the issues raised in this thread. In particular it fixes some bugs introduced in LMS 7.7.x and provides richer meta data on Play To (i.e. Title, Album, Artist and Album Art). And I have sent a PM to )p( and Wigster giving them details where to get this new pre-version. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;685659 Wrote: Working :)In the meantime, I found a big bug in that pre- release version, so have put up another one... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;683872 Wrote: as far as I can tell, you seem to think that (1) should not be working?Indeed. But who's complaining :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi Andrew, Re: playing FLAC files through WB. So, I seem to have solved the problem. For some reason I had to reinstall the latest Shark 007 codecs (v3.3.8). I was running v3.3.5 before (maybe I changed some setting?) and that seems to have been the problem. 1) Now I can again play FLAC files in the local WMP library through WB on the Squeezebox using the Play To feature. I am running LMS 7.7.2, so it was not an issue with the server version. I guess there could be transcoding going on, I am not sure, but the SB receives FLC radio. 2) I can also now play the PCM files being served by the WB DLNA library on the SB. This did require me to recreate the WMP library following the upgrade to LMS 7.7. So it all works again. However, as far as I can tell, you seem to think that (1) should not be working? -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I doubt that this was ever possible; even in prior versions. Basically WMP can only stream (Play To) tracks to other media renders (such as Whitebear/LMS) that are in one of WMP's own *native* formats (e.g. pcm, mp3, wma, wav). The Shark add-ins do allow WMP to play tracks locally within WMP but they do not help WMP to stream those formats to other 3rd party players using the Play To command (don't ask me why). This is a weakness of WMP and/or the Shark add-ins, and is not the fault of Whitebear or LMS. But that's the thing: I've been playing local FLAC files for the past 3-4 months with no problems whatsoever (I could even play AAC etc, but there were problems with moving from one track to the next, WMP would cause the same AAC track to be replayed over and over). All of a sudden it stopped working following the 7.7 upgrade. I'll try to downgrade to see if I can play them again and do some track rescans. I'm also pretty sure that the file format of SBS's FLAC files in the WB library was FLAC rather than PCM, although not 100%, since I mostly use WB to play local files of my laptop to the Squeezebox. -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;683360 Wrote: it only imports the first genreHmmm... until I read your post, I always thought that just as a track can only have one title, it could also only have one genre and one album name; but by contrast it could have multiple artists ... but it seems I was wrong! I just read the UPnP specification again, and I see that it does indeed allow multiple entries for artist, genre, and album (but not for title !). It is amazing what one can learn each day! )p(;683360 Wrote: I have my genres separated with a ; ie Classical;Classical - Violin ConcertoThis raises a question about how the SBS scanner handles complex genre tags containing multiple items. As far as artists are concerned, SBS has a separator character for multiple items so if a track has a complex artist tag like fredsjoe (where s is the separator character) the scanner will split that tag into two artist entries in the database. Does the SBS scanner handle complex genre tags in the same way, using the same separator character? Or does a track with a complex genre tag like rocksclassical remain unsplit as a single entry in your SBS database? If the SBS scanner treats complex genre tags in the exact same way as it treats complex artist tags, then it is a trivial matter to implement multiple genre entries in the Whitebear UPnP ContentDirectory. But if complex genre tags have a different handling than complex artists tags, it would require Whitebear to somehow read your mind about your chosen personal encoding scheme for complex genre tags... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;683359 Wrote: All of a sudden it stopped working following the 7.7 upgrade.You are probably getting mixed up here. There are two cases: Case 1) if you have a control point that can serve native flac, then Whitebear sets things up between SBS and the control point so that SBS gets the track direct from the control point i.e. Whitebear plays no role in actually moving the data. Case 2) if you have a control point that can only serve pcm, then Whitebear sets things up so that Whitebear becomes a transcoding proxy between SBS and the control point, whereby Whitebear gets the track from the control point in pcm format, and serves it to SBS as flac. The reason for this double proxy transcoding approach is that pcm is the must support format of UPnP, but SBS does not support pcm (at least not for remote streams). WMP can only serve lossless streams in pcm so case 2) is _always_ used when WMP does Play To a SBS player (by Whitebear). And the reason why case 2) won't work anymore with SBS v7.7 is that the developers messed up something concerning x-audiocast-bitrate headers. Grrr! I am developing, with the help of )p(, an update of Whitebear to work around this v7.7 issue. However in the meantime downgrading to 7.6 should see you right, until my update is released. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;683415 Wrote: Yes it does only use one setting for multi items for artist, album and genre. I have it set to ;.Cool. I will add this feature to my current work-in-progress next release. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682804 Wrote: When you use the library provided by Whitebear with jrmc how are updates handled in jrmc when you add new files to and or adjust tags in the lms database?Well SBS/LMS should detect changes in the library and trigger a rescan for added or changed items. And this does cause a change in the SystemUpdateID in Whitebear. And JRMC should notice this change in SystemUpdateId and automatically start to refresh its database. However to be honest, I have only tested this on Windows Media Player (where it works fine) and not on JRMC. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
H Andrew, So I have upgraded to LMS 7.7.2 (33761), while keeping the latest WB 2.2. I have the UPnP plug in of LMS disabled. Things work as they should for mp3 files. However, it appears that all the files which are in the FLAC format appear in the LMS library appear in the WB DLNA library as PCM and are unplayable in WMP. I am guessing it's some change in v 7.7 since I haven't changed WB recently. I have the Shark 007 codecs installed, as well as WMP Tag Plus, which allows me to play FLAC and other files and keep them in the library of the WMP as if they were natively supported. Previously I could play the FLAC files being served by WB from the SBS library. Now I cannot, neither to the Squeeezebox not in WMP. Moreover, what used to work (and now doesn't) is being able to serve a FLAC file in the WMP library (i.e. not the WB library) without transcoding to the Squeezebox. Now attempting to play such files fails with Failed to retrieve media information. Are you seeing this too? -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682730 Wrote: By the way I noticed in Whitebear under settings the Client http user agent header settings is now greyed out. It was not in earlier versions of whitebear.The user agent settings are only greyed out if no user agent has actually called the Whitebear ContentDirectory, and the list is therefore still empty. As soon as the first control point calls the ContentDirectory, the control point's user agent name is put in the list, and the list therefore becomes un-greyed. So it sounds as if you have not tried to connect to the Whitebear ContentDirectory since uninstalling and reinstalling Whitebear. Or?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;683073 Wrote: ...it appears that all the files which are in the FLAC format appear in the LMS library appear in the WB DLNA library as PCM...Yes that is normal. Whitebear actually offers files to client control points in multiple formats, and the client control point chooses whichever format it prefers. For flac files, Whitebear, with its default settings, offers (in order) pcm, native (i.e. flac) and mp3. The pcm is offered first because it is the default must support format of all UPnP and DLNA devices, and this therefore ensures compatibility with the maximum number of clients. And as WMP does not natively support flac, it always chooses the pcm offer. This is not a change since earlier versions of WMP/Whitebear/LMS; it was always like this. The only 'bad' consequence is that when you play such a track on WMP, it forces Whitebear to transcode from flac to pcm, which means a higher CPU load on the server, but no loss of audio quality as lossless is lossless. Wigster;683073 Wrote: ..and are unplayable in WMP..I have not encountered any such a problem in my case. It plays just fine. Also I doubt that the change to LMS v7.7 would have any impact on this since nothing much changed in this area. (Are your flacs 44100Hz or 48000Hz 16bit 2channel, or are they higher bitrate or resolutions? -- It is just possible that Whitebear's transcoders may not be set up to handle all hires, hi rate flac combinations yet. But if so, that can no doubt be tweaked.) Wigster;683073 Wrote: I have the Shark 007 codecs installed, as well as WMP Tag Plus, which allows me to play FLAC and other files and keep them in the library of the WMP as if they were natively supported.Me too! That should also not be the cause of your problems. (But also it is not the solution -- see below...) Wigster;683073 Wrote: Previously I could play the FLAC files being served by WB from the SBS library. Now I cannot, neither to the Squeeezebox not in WMP.I am guessing that your problem could be that WMP's database of tracks from Whitebear might have got out of sync with the actual tracks in the LMS/SBS library. Perhaps you have recently done an LMS/SBS database rescan? In such a case, WMP may be asking Whitebear/LMS/SBS to play a track ID that is no longer actually in LMS/SBS, and the play may fail. Usually WMP detects such an out of sync case, and will refresh its local database quietly in the background. (You may even find that during such a refresh, there may even be duplicate tracks in WMP; being the old and the new versions of the same track. But once the refresh is completed, the old versions are deleted.) You can force WMP to do a refresh by right clicking on Library Name (by Whitebear) and selecting Refresh. In my experience the WMP refresh may take up to 30 minutes for a library having 10'000 tracks... Note also that if LMS/SBS is itself doing a rescan, then communications between WMP/Whitebear/LMS are blocked until that rescan is completed. At which point WMP should detect the change in the Whitebear/LMS database status and automatically initiate its own refresh process. So this chain reaction may take 15 minutes for LMS to rescan its 10'000 tracks followed by the abovementioned 30 minutes for WMP to do its refresh. So it is best to let these things run overnight ;-) Wigster;683073 Wrote: Moreover, what used to work (and now doesn't) is being able to serve a FLAC file in the WMP library (i.e. not the WB library) without transcoding to the Squeezebox. Now attempting to play such files fails with Failed to retrieve media information.I doubt that this was ever possible; even in prior versions. Basically WMP can only stream (Play To) tracks to other media renders (such as Whitebear/LMS) that are in one of WMP's own [b]native[b] formats (e.g. pcm, mp3, wma, wav). The Shark add-ins do allow WMP to play tracks locally within WMP but they do not help WMP to stream those formats to other 3rd party players using the Play To command (don't ask me why). This is a weakness of WMP and/or the Shark add-ins, and is not the fault of Whitebear or LMS. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682730 Wrote: If you only use audio .. then using the sb library will work.This is a good point because obviously you can use JRMC to manage and play your videos too. And in such cases I suppose (but did not test it) that you can command the soundtrack of a video in JRMC to Play To a Squeezeplayer (??) -- but honestly it is hard to see a real benefit in that... )p(;682730 Wrote: If ... the regular genre - artist - album browsing works for you then using the sb library will work.Apologies if I am wrong on this, but when you connect to a UPnP/DLNA library, JRMC downloads the entire Content Directory from Whitebear/SBS/LMS into its own local JRMC database, and my understanding is that you can do searches, random sorts, create playlists etc. with that database in exactly the same way as you could with a locally hosted JRMC database. Or ?? )p(;682730 Wrote: By the way I noticed in Whitebear under settings the Client http user agent header settings is now greyed out. It was not in earlier versions of whitebear.I will check later to see if I can repeat this issue on my test system... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682800 Wrote: But its get messy when you also use the same library for other things then sending audio to whitebear.Understood. A perfect solution would be if JRMC could have multiple libraries open at the same time e.g. the main audio library (by Whitebear) and a local JRMC library for video and other media. Then you could create playlists of intermixed items from any library that could be Played To a Squeezeplayer by Whitebear -- albeit using slightly different mechanisms. ;-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
I understood it was the only way to get my art covers to be displayed on my SqueezePlayers. Have I understood this right?No, it is not the *only* way: as you yourself said, there are indeed two ways to play to a Squeezeplayer: 1) Library (by Whitebear) = Player (by Whitebear) 2) Library JRMC (*) = Player (by Whitebear) (*) or another control point like Windows Media Player, Foobar, etc. In case 1) SBS/LMS is sourcing the all music track data and all its meta data and cover art images. The control point just informs Whitebear about this, and Whitebear just informs SBS/LMS to refer back to back to its own data. The control point only sends control commands, via Whitebear, to play this or that track, but no actual data (be it meta data, music stream or cover art), needs to be transferred because that data is already inside SBS/LMS. Therefore everything works smoother. In case 2) the control point is sourcing the track data, which it then gives to Whitebear, which Whitebear then passes on to SBS/LMS. The track meta data and cover art come from the control point; and the control point is also actually providing the music data stream too. Therefore there is far more stuff being passed between control point, Whitebear and SBS/LMS, so the data integration is more complex, and it risks to run less smoothly. Also if Logitech messes with things in the server (as they just did in v7.7.x), it risks that I also have to change things in Whitebear to match (as I just did in this new build). Notwithstanding the above, case 2) works fine in the test version that )p( is now kindly testing. It displays all track meta data (albeit on one line), the cover art, and obviously it plays the track itself. (In some cases, the control point might not support the seek function on all formats; but that regrettably is not the fault of Whitebear). )p(;682505 Wrote: Using jrmc's library will give you much more flexiblity in building your own view schemes.I don't really know enough about JRMC to judge whether )p( is right on this. But clearly he prefers case 2). But then again, I have to say that I prefer case 1). So finally it is just a matter of choice... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682512 Wrote: Ok let it play for a few hours. 100% ok even when adding songs, using shuffle or reshuffle while still playing.Yes! The Whitebear _is_ coool... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682050 Wrote: I noticed that streams were not seekable.Hi )p(, I have been doing a lot more testing and developing by trail and error... And I found a way that Whitebear can persuade SBS/LMS to support the progress bar and also support the seek function. It works on the (buggy) v7.7.1 and should also be backwards compatible with the (non buggy) prior versions of SBS too. I have posted a new test version under the same url that I sent in my earlier PM to you. Can you please give it a try, and give me feedback. Although it now supports seek on all formats. You will find that JRMC itself has a bug (at least in v16.181) whereby it does not support seek on flac files. I posted a report about this on the JRMC forum. However, in the meantime, if you want seek with JRMC you need to set it to Always Convert to Uncrompressed L16 - No Header (aka pcm). Following is a summary of the changes introduced in this new test version of Whitebear: 1) support for album cover art on Play To 2) fixed the seek bug and the progress bar bug that were introduced by LMS/SBS v7.7.x 3) added support for the SetNextAvTransportURI function; thus enabling those control points that support this function to provide a gapless playback experience 4) increased streaming buffer sizes to reduce stuttering on transcoded playback 5) changed time resolution on play position information from seconds to milliseconds to reduce glitchiness on control point progress bar displays 6) various stability improvements (still testing) The respective bugs in JRMC and LMS/SBS, that were identified in this process, have been notified to the respective developer teams. Note to other readers of this post: Once I have got positive feedback from )p( concerning this new test version, then a formal new public version will be released on the web site in a couple of days. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hello everyone, My name is Philippe and I've been following this thread for a couple of weeks now. I'm very interested in this thread because JRMC is my music player, organiser, tagger for more than 5 years and because I've just bought a Squeezebox Touch and a Radio. I have a Synology NAS where my music files reside (20'000 files mostly mp3 with embedded art covers). A Squeezebox server (Version: 7.6.1 - r33110) runs on it. [Still waiting for an update to 7.7 ;)] My NAS is connected to my router through gigabit ethernet, yet my Squeezebox players and my laptop (JRMC) are on Wifi N. So, a few weeks ago my setup was like this : A) Using JRMC to Browse some local library (NOT by Whitebear), and Play locally on JRMC But what I really want is : C) Using JRMC to Browse some Squeezebox Library (by Whitebear), and Play To a SqueezePlayer (by Whitebear) C') Using JRMC to Browse some Squeezebox Library (by Whitebear), and Play To a SqueezePlayer Ideally, I'd like to see the art covers on my SqueezePlayers along with the track info on three lines ;) I've done some test and here are my results: Configuration C) I can see the art cover but the track info is on one line. I can navigate inside the track (in either JRMC or the SqueezePlayer) I can't go to the next song in my playing list from the SqueezePlayer. I can do that from JRMC. Configuration C') I can see the art cover and the track info is on three lines. I can't navigate inside the track (in either JRMC or the SqueezePlayer) I can't go to the next song in my playing list from the SqueezePlayer. I can do that from JRMC. I have also an application on my smartphone (HP Pre 3 with webOS) where I can see the artwork only with the configuration C but the track info is on one line. It's the other way around with configuration C'. In conclusion, with C) I can't have the track info on three lines but I can't seeking and see the artwork on my smartphone. So, currently I'm more than satisfied with configuration C' even though I'd like to see the artwork on my phone. This is minor compares to have the track info on three lines which is personnally the top feature. Voilà! Before completing this post, I'd like to thank Andrew for the work and )p( for the testing. If I can contribute in any way I'll be more than happy. I understand that some developing are under way and I'm looking forward to the next version. -- phil71 phil71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
One rectification regarding my setup. In order to be able to control my SqueezePlayer with JRMC, I have to switch the library on my SqueezePlayer. Therefore, the Squeezebox server I'm using is not the one on my Synology but the one on my laptop. The version of the latter is 7.7.1 - r33750 -- phil71 phil71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Because I understood it was the only way to get my art covers to be displayed on my SqueezePlayers. Have I understood this right? I think I read this here in this same thread! -- phil71 phil71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi )p(, I discovered that your progress bar issue is a symptom of a bigger problem... In general Squeezebox Server needs to know a track's duration before it can show a progress bar; and it needs to know the track's size before it can support seeking. In prior versions of Squeezebox Server (v7.6.x and earlier), if an external stream server provided an Http Content-Length header value, plus either an icy-br or an x-audicast-bitrate header value, then Squeezebox Server could calculate the duration (content length divided by bitrate), and it would also turn on support for the seek function. Unfortunately in Squeezebox Server v7.7 (aka LMS) the developers broke these mechanisms... 1) The developers changed the way Squeezebox Server handles icy-br and x-audicast-bitrate header values: In the past these always meant *kilo* bits per second, but now SBS intelligently interprets low values as before as kilo bits per second, but it interprets values above 1000 as bits per second. = This breaks Whitebear's older code. But admittedly it is easily fixed by having Whitebear check the SBS/LMS version number to conditionally determine what value it shall provide in its icy-br or x-audicast-bitrate headers. Yuckk! 2) The developers changed the way Squeezebox Server determines if a stream is seekable. Previously a stream was deemed seekable if Squeezebox Server had values for two out three of the variables length, duration, bitrate. However now, from v7.7 onwards, they use a different mechanism to determine if a stream is seekable. = This means that remote streams served by Whitebear, (or indeed remote Http streams served by other servers) are no longer seekable. Unfortunately I could not (yet) find a work around for this. IMHO breaking working code in such a way, is not very friendly towards the external developer community... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;682050 Wrote: I noticed that streams were not seekable.If you would revert to SBS v7.6.x you could probably recover the seekability. )p(;682050 Wrote: Also I did see some small hickups in the jrmc progress bar in the first few seconds. But further it looks ok to me now.JRMC updates its own progress bar in real time, periodically asks Whitebear for its progress info, and readjusts its realtime value to match what Whitebear gives it. So the glitches that you see are due to this readjustment between realtime and remote progress settings; the glitches would depend on network latency and rounding up/down to the nearest second; and the larger the progress position, the smaller is the relative impact of rounding... )p(;682050 Wrote: Did you get a response from jriver about the SetNextAvTransportURI support in jrmc?I did not check yet :-( -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681834 Wrote: Ah this is why I now see on string on the touch for track - album - artist on the touch. Maybe you could make them separate again that will look nicer on a device like the touch.I am confused by your request to make them separate again. When one commands SBS to play a remote stream, it is only possible to give it one title line to display. I always had this title line being TrackNo. Title - Album - Artist, and as far as I know, this was always so, and nothing changed in the new Whitebear version compared to prior versions. (Or ??) )p(;681834 Wrote: Is it possible to check after x seconds if sms did add it to the playlist as the next song and if not try again. That might make it even more robust.Actually, I hit a brick wall with this. I have added support for SetNextAvTransportURI in Whitebear, but it turns out that JRMC does not call it. It seems they announced support for SetNextAvTransportURI in their RENDERER for those control points that support it, but they did not choose to support that feature temselves in their own control point (go figure). So adding the new feature to Whitebear is (currently) a pointless exercise. However I posted a comment about it on their forum... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681704 Wrote: I must have messed something up with the sbtouch because I cant play anything anymore with any version of whitebear. It gives a connection reset by local host error. I'll look into that tomorrow I have not time now.Ok, keep cool. It is probably a testing gremlin that will be better in the morning. But in the worst case please send me another log ;-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi )p(, I posted a new test build of Whitebear under the same url as I sent you before. This build should resolve the progress bar issue. Please give me feedback. )p(;681672 Wrote: MMM If you do that is the 2 item playlist then handled by squeeze serverie will it do the actual transition from one to the other song like it was played without upnp. If that is the case it could be worth the effort only for the reason that it would give us gappless playback with classical music.That is the idea. I will give it a try over the next few days. It all dependends whether JRMC or other CPs will implement it... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681636 Wrote: Although much better then the lms upnp server occasionally jrmc-whitebear-sb does get out of sync for me and does not complete the whole playlist. Have you seen this?Can you be a bit more specific about the circumstances when/how this happens? )p(;681636 Wrote: Maybe you could send the next song before the previous ends to to add it to the sb's playlist. Or is this not possible with upnp?Actually, it is possible. The UPnP standard supports two Actions, namely SetAvTransportUri (to set the current track) and SetNextAvTransportUri (to set the subsequent track). The former is a mandatory action, whereas the latter is an optional one; and for this reason most renderers don't implement it, so most control points don't try to call it. In principal I could implement it, but I am not sure if I would do so, whether JRMC would call it... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681613 Wrote: They are really weird when I start a song the duration is reported correctly in the bar. But withinh a split second its reset to 2:14. This happens with every file that I play. Also it reports 0 khz and 0 channels. So there is most likely definitively something from in jrmc 17.Now I can repeat it. It is not a JRMC issue. It is in fact due to a quirk in SBS where it effectively multiplies the duration by factor 1000x. I can probably fix it in Whitebear... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681582 Wrote: I still see the progress bar issue in jrmc with mc 17.0.62. But that is no problem. I normally dont even see it as the server is headless.Ok. Let me just confirm that understand which progress bar you are referring to: Is it the one along the top of JRMC's main window? Or the one on the Squeeze player? Or the one in the SBS web browser UI? Or indeed something else? In any case, I don't see this problem. I am using JRMC v16.0.181 and the progress bar works fine in that. (So perhaps this is also something new in JRMC v17 ??) What kind of file are you playing? Is it a local flac file? Or one of your troublesome remote flacs without a file extension? Or is it a remote radio stream? And in JRMC does the file report a BitRate, a Duration, and a File Size? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681795 Wrote: Progress bar still working. When I set the windows firewall to off for my home network music now plays on the touch.Ok. That's good news. )p(;681795 Wrote: I opened port 31416 for private ip adresses and now all is well :)This is a good point! In earlier versions, SBS used to get the music stream direct from JRMC. But now in this version SBS requests the music stream from Whitebear, and Whitebear in turn gets it from JRMC. So basically Whitebear is now proxying the stream from JRMC to SBS except that it inserts one ShoutCast icy meta data block that containing the track title and artwork url. = So it may indeed be necessary to allow SBS to access Whitebear's HTTP server port (31416) in the firewall. )p(;681795 Wrote: Be sure to announce that on the jrmc forum. I think a lot of people want to have gapless playback trough upnp.I coded it already, and am now testing it... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
pski;681488 Wrote: So what does it do for a LMS user that is not interested in Dxxx and who doesn't use iTunes?Sorry but I don't understand your question. What do you mean by Dxxx? And why do you think an interest in iTunes might be relevant to the discussion? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
)p(;681454 Wrote: Ok I could not wait and gave it a quick spin. Seems to work...yeah!Yes! The Whitebear is coool... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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AndrewFG;681461 Wrote: Yes! The Whitebear is coool... So what does it do for a LMS user that is not interested in Dxxx and who doesn't use iTunes ? Paul -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
erland;667564 Wrote: Just out of interest, what's the main difference between Whitebear Media Server and the built-in UPnP server that's now bundled with LMS ? I can't easily compare it myself as I'm on Linux and I don't think Whitebear currently runs on Linux ? Does Whitebear also support video and photos when used with LMS 7.7 or is it focused at music ? I installed whitebear because it makes my itunes playlists available on my ps3 and the logitech media server does not. I can't explain why logitech didn't include itunes playlists with it's upnp server though? Seems like an obvious gap. -- jamesgangnc jamesgangnc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi )p( AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: I will work on this, and will hopefully get back with some solutions in a few days.I made a new test version of Whitebear that should solve the issue of missing album art when doing Play To from a third party control point (like JRMC) to a Squeeze player. I sent you a Private Message where you can download it. Please test it and let me know if it works. AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: This is a different issue, but I will look into it too...I could not replicate this problem. The play position updates fine for me, on the player, the SBS web UI, and on the control point (JRMC). AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: You need to contact J River to ask them to fix this.Did you report this to J River yet? Any feedback yet? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
