[Elecraft] Interfaces

2011-01-11 Thread Edward R. Cole
I am glad that I started soundcard programs way back before 
commercial interfaces were born.  It is so simple to make.  I bought 
two 600-ohm pc board 1:1 audio transformers from RS and one 2n3904, 
some resistors and caps.  That was to set up my FT-847 on psk-31.  I 
then used the interface to run the WSJT suite of programs.

When it came time to interface my K3, it was way more simple: connect 
line-in and line out audio with standard computer cables and connect 
a RS-232 patch cable with sub-D 9-pin connectors.  Of course I have a 
computer with a RS-232 serial port and run winXP.  I guess it you are 
using a brand new win7 quad-core computer with only USB ports it 
might be more difficult.  You would have to get a USB/RS-232 cable.

I have more problems with finding the dialog boxes in the computer to 
adjust audio in/out levels.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Amp Key configuration request

2011-01-11 Thread David Windisch

H . . . can you route the RCA-connector enable-cable from the K3 thru the
tuner-amp-disable contact connectors thence to the amp? 
Btdt with Alpha and Ten Tec. Hth.
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] K2/KPA100 build for K2-7006

2011-01-11 Thread david m

Thanks Richard (AD7FZ) for the replacement parts.  Elecraft rocks!

73,
David AJ4TF


On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 00:22 -0500, david wrote:
 So far so good.  The KPA100 passed the first functional test without
 issue.  The only thing I have run into is that I was missing one small
 capacitor, and one of the toroid cores was cracked... I didn't notice it
 until I started winding it and it fell apart.  The Elecraft parts
 department has an email in their in-box (two, actually).  
 
 I am now up to the steps just after installing and winding the large
 output transformer.
 
 Kudos (again) for the excellent instructions!
 
 73,
 
 David Macchiarolo  AJ4TF
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Amp Key configuration request

2011-01-11 Thread Luis V. Romero
Please add my name to this request.  I have the same setup as Phil and
Roger.  It would sure be handy if the amp enable line setting could be
custom configured to adapt to this specific environment.

Lu - W4LT
K3 # 3192




Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Amp Key configuration request
To: Phil  Debbie Salas dpsa...@tx.rr.com
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Phil  Debbie Salas wrote:
 I use my K3 with an Ameritron ALS-600 amplifier and MFJ-998 autotuner
(hey, 
 the KPA-500 and KAT-500 aren't available yet).  Anyway, I tune the MFJ-998

 by leaving it in the full auto position and then just press TUNE on the
K3. 
 I set my K3 TUNE power for 15 watts which is a perfect level for the 
 MFJ-998.  However, the amp enable line on the K3 goes low even when using 
 TUNE, and so I must remember to place the amp in standby before checking
and 
 tuning SWR.  Otherwise the amp will put out power momentarily (60-100
watts) 
 until the MFJ-998 interrupts the amp-key line if it needs to tune.  It
would 
 be nice if the amp-enable output of the K3 would not go low when using
TUNE 
 on the K3.  Maybe a menu set-up option?

 Phil - AD5X 

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Same situation here. I'd like to see this too.

73, Roger



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[Elecraft] K3 PA temp widely varying ERR12v

2011-01-11 Thread Ron N5QQ
Early this SAT morning gettin gready to play in NAQP code I fired up
both K3's, the logging PC and such. I started double checking SO2R
setup in N1MM when all of a sudden radio #1 (K3 sn 594) flashed the
ERR 12v message, and I think it said CHECK CIRCUIT BREAKER etc. I
looked at circuit breaker and it was not tripped. After a few other
general checks I looked at the PA Temp and it was wildly fluctuating
with readings displayed such as -3 then to +30 then 5 then +35 back to
23 then -4 then +27 and kept this , all the while in just receive
mode. (For reference I looked at radio #2 (K3) and the PA temp was
perfectly steady at 23, just sitting idle in receive mode.)

Are these two issues related? The PA temp fluctuation is my real concern.

As FYI the radio has worked flawlessly the past couple years, but
coincidentally it just came back from the factory having several mods
performed along with a couple new options installed.

I searched and read the reflector's past comments on the more common
ERR12v causes regarding the circuit breaker lugs and the multipin
connector being tin vs gold, etc. I will check these later when I can
open up radio.

Any comments?
Ron
N5QQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Amp Key configuration request

2011-01-11 Thread Ignacy

Why not set the tune to 1-2W? K3 allows for this as opposed to nearly all
other radios. 
The number of software options in K3 is reaching the sky and many problems
of current operators stem from not remembering options that were turned on
by mistake.  
Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: [Elecraft] RX antenna (K3)

2011-01-11 Thread Craig D. Smith
DX Eng makes good stuff, Adriano, and I would think this to be a good
vertical active whip.  You might want to also check out the active whip from
Clifton Labs.  It is also a high quality unit with good overload
characteristics and ability to automatically turn off during Xmit periods.
Available as a kit and much less expensive than the DX Eng, even with the
coax DC coupling unit.  I have one 50 ft away from my xmit antennas at 100 W
and have no problem. 
Another possibility you might want to explore is a K9AY loop array, even if
not full size.  This will give you the advantages of less RX noise than an
active whip and significant selectable directionality on the low bands.  I
use one of these also and prefer it to the whip on 160 thru 30.  They are
commercially available, but can also be easily homebrewed.  I use a
homebrewed downsized K9AY and the active whip together as a diversity RX
system with the K3.
73   Craig  AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] RX antenna (K3)

2011-01-11 Thread GREG FICHER
The DXE NCC1 is also a nice unit that gives the ability to adust the phase
between two rx antennas.  I use one with two of the clifton labs active
antennas and also installed two of Jack's new HP filters in the NCC1 (It has
provisions for filters but DXE decided not to build the filters).

73
Greg
AB7R



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Craig D. Smith cr...@powersmith.netwrote:

 DX Eng makes good stuff, Adriano, and I would think this to be a good
 vertical active whip.  You might want to also check out the active whip
 from
 Clifton Labs.  It is also a high quality unit with good overload
 characteristics and ability to automatically turn off during Xmit periods.
 Available as a kit and much less expensive than the DX Eng, even with the
 coax DC coupling unit.  I have one 50 ft away from my xmit antennas at 100
 W
 and have no problem.
 Another possibility you might want to explore is a K9AY loop array, even if
 not full size.  This will give you the advantages of less RX noise than an
 active whip and significant selectable directionality on the low bands.  I
 use one of these also and prefer it to the whip on 160 thru 30.  They are
 commercially available, but can also be easily homebrewed.  I use a
 homebrewed downsized K9AY and the active whip together as a diversity RX
 system with the K3.
 73   Craig  AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] RX antenna (K3)

2011-01-11 Thread David Cutter
Craig

I'm most interested in your system and I wonder if you could describe it 
further.   What size is your loop and do you use a separate phasing unit 
before injecting the result into the K3 rx input?

David
G3UNA

 Another possibility you might want to explore is a K9AY loop array, even 
 if
 not full size.  This will give you the advantages of less RX noise than an
 active whip and significant selectable directionality on the low bands.  I
 use one of these also and prefer it to the whip on 160 thru 30.  They are
 commercially available, but can also be easily homebrewed.  I use a
 homebrewed downsized K9AY and the active whip together as a diversity RX
 system with the K3.
 73   Craig  AC0DS
 
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[Elecraft] [K2] crystal filters bag discarded

2011-01-11 Thread IZ2NYY
I divided all the components of rf board bags into parts boxes (really 
handfull!), but in this way i discarded the crystal filters bag with the number 
necessary for alignment as indicated on page 54 of the manual. What can i do??? 
On the crystals is written this:

ECSX V
4.9136-S
CHINA K8

Tnx for help

Pippo
IZ2NYY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Amp Key configuration request

2011-01-11 Thread Roger D Johnson
Ignacy wrote:
 Why not set the tune to 1-2W? K3 allows for this as opposed to nearly all
 other radios. 
 The number of software options in K3 is reaching the sky and many problems
 of current operators stem from not remembering options that were turned on
 by mistake.  
 Ignacy, NO9E
   
I think you would find that, with a remote coupler and a low drive linear,
2 watts would not be enough for the coupler to tune properly and if the
linear was in line, the output might be too much for the couplers relays
to handle safely.

73, Roger

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PA temp widely varying ERR12v

2011-01-11 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Ron,

Yes, I would say they are related.  From the owner's manual section on 
troubleshooting transmit problems:

... low voltage may cause an erroneous temperature reading...

The ERR 12V message also indicates low voltage. 

I think you're on the right track checking the circuit breaker lugs, etc., but 
be sure to check the obvious things first, like measuring the supply voltage, 
making sure the connections on the power cord are tight, etc.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Ron N5QQ wrote:

 Early this SAT morning gettin gready to play in NAQP code I fired up
 both K3's, the logging PC and such. I started double checking SO2R
 setup in N1MM when all of a sudden radio #1 (K3 sn 594) flashed the
 ERR 12v message,...I looked at the PA Temp and it was wildly fluctuating
 with readings displayed such as -3 then to +30 then 5 then +35 back to
 23 then -4 then +27 and kept this , all the while in just receive
 mode

 Are these two issues related? The PA temp fluctuation is my real concern.
 
 ...

 Any comments?
 Ron
 N5QQ

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Re: [Elecraft] RES: Yamaha CM500

2011-01-11 Thread k . igor


I use CM500 for few months now. I don't hear difference between Heil proset and 
CM500. Microphone is a bit different and TX EQ needed to be adjusted and mic 
gain reduced significantly. But the main CM500 advantage, aside from being 3 
times cheaper than the Heil, they are much more comfortable, I can wear them 
for more than 10 hours straight during contest, while Heil would kill my ears 
after 3-4 hours. 

73, 

Igor, N1YX 
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Harmon k...@pacbell.net 
To: Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: Yamaha CM500 

O.K. you guys, now you've done it.  I have to try the C-500 phones too.  :) 

Bob 
K6UJ 


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] crystal filters bag discarded

2011-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Pippo,

Just assume the bag was marked with 3.7.  That is the most common, and 
is close enough to get you through the process.
After the K2 is complete and the KSB12 is installed (if you are adding 
that option), I recommend you refine your filter alignment in any case - 
Use Spectrogram and some type of noise generator (the N-Gen is ideal).  
The instructions are on my website www.w3fpr.com in the article on K2 
Dial Calibration.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 11:49 AM, IZ2NYY wrote:
 I divided all the components of rf board bags into parts boxes (really 
 handfull!), but in this way i discarded the crystal filters bag with the 
 number necessary for alignment as indicated on page 54 of the manual. What 
 can i do???
 On the crystals is written this:

 ECSX V
 4.9136-S
 CHINA K8

 Tnx for help

 Pippo
 IZ2NYY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3, LP-Bridge, SteppIR BiggIR antenna

2011-01-11 Thread Larry Phipps
  Hi John. First, make sure that you are using the top port on the 
SteppIR controller. Second, you can't use a standard cable. The SteppIR 
requires a special cable which you can make yourself. It needs to be 
3-wire null modem (crossover), with pins 79 tied together on the 
SteppIR side. Here is a rough sketch of how it works...

SteppIR end ...  PC end
-
1 - 2
2 - 1
5 - 5
7
I
9

You can also try a Y cable on the K3 side of the USB adapter, but you'll 
have to set the baud rate in the SteppIR controller to 38,400 if that's 
possible. There are subtle advantages to using the LP-Bridge output, as 
long as you always have LP-Bridge running.

73,
Larry N8LP


On 1/11/2011 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:25:59 -0500
 From: John Gaynardjgayn...@columbus.rr.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3, LP-Bridge, SteppIR BiggIR antenna
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:04ae01cbb147$a6087e80$f2197b...@columbus.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 I have the LP-Bridge functioning with the logger.  I now need to get it
 working with the SteppIR.  The K3 connects to the computer via the COM1
 port.  I have the current  K3 USB serial cable connected to the SteppIR via
 COM9 port  using a serial extension cable with DB9 F to DB9F adapter to
 match up with the DB9M connector on the K3 USB cable.  The SteppIR is set to
 Kenwood command set and 4800bps.  The SteppIR is not responding to frequency
 changes on the K3.  I see the USB serial output on the LP-Bridge port
 display.



 John K8WDN

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[Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Wayne Rogers
I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this.  Maybe (hopefully) someone 
here can help?

I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3.  I have been experiencing an oddity that I have 
not been able to resolve:

With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes 
to 3503.5.  No problem.

With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click on 
a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.

With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double 
click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.

I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes.  This happens in 
DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.

Neither RIT nor XIT are on.  Anyone have an idea where this is coming from?

Thanks,
Wayne, N1WR,  K3 s/n 1945
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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Wayne,

I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the 
K3 or in DX4WIN or both.

Then I would guess that DX4WIN is changing the mode first and then 
changing the frequency.  Done that way, the frequency can be off by the 
amount of the sidetone pitch.  If the frequency is changed first, and 
then the mode, the K3 should follow along nicely.  (I an guessing at the 
order which causes this situation, I may have it backwards).

The developer of N1MM has worked closely with Elecraft to iron out 
little things like this - apparently the author of DX4WIN has not done 
the same.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
 I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this.  Maybe (hopefully) someone 
 here can help?

 I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3.  I have been experiencing an oddity that I have
 not been able to resolve:

 With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes
 to 3503.5.  No problem.

 With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click on
 a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.

 With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
 click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.

 I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes.  This happens in
 DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PA Temp

2011-01-11 Thread Lu Romero
Fred:

Dumb question, but you wouldnt have one or both of the
following conditions:

1 - Fan speed on FN1 for noise abatement and not on AUTO,
or:

2 - Something like a monitor base or a radio interface
sitting over the grille on the top of the radio's cabinet,
thus blocking or severely restricting the fresh air intake
to the fans?

The fans on my rig suck air OUT of the cabinet, and intake
air from the top through the grille, over the PA Heatsink
fins and then exhaust it out the back, not the other way
around... the grille at the top of the radio is the air
intake.  Kind of counter intuitive (after all, hot air
rises) but that's the way it is...

I run the fans full blast all the time by setting them at
FN4.  For me, the more air they move, the better.  In my
station environment (boom mic headset 99.999% of the time),
the noise is not a problem.  

For transmission noise abatement, there is always TX GATE 
:)

-lu-w4lt-
K3 #3192



 From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA Temp
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 1:24 PM
 Playing around in the RTTY RU after a
 full effort in NAQP CW yesterday. 
 ? PA temp @100W gets up to about 56C while CQ'ing, so
 I backed off to 
 80W.? Anyone know how hot is too hot?
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
 - http://www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] K2 BFO Tune Up

2011-01-11 Thread Dave Anderson, K4SV
Hi All,

Just completed assembling my K2 kit I had on the shelf for 7 years SN 3089.  

After engineering a cap change to get the VCO voltage correct (C72 from 270 to 
300pf) it appears to work now.

I went through the tuning OK but wanted to ask if there is a better way to 
adjust the BFO so that all of the filters peak on the same frequency?  In 
looking at the old emails about tuning the filters only to find that the 
Spectrum APP is not available anymore, can someone point me to a procedure that 
can aid in this endeavor?

Thanks in advance,
 
Dave Anderson, K4SV
Tryon, NC
 828 777-5088
 
www.K4SV.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Tune Up

2011-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Dave,

Go to my website www.w3fpr.com, and look at the article dealing with K2 
Dial Calibration - it includes the filter setting, but you may as well 
do the whole thing and have good dial calibration as well.
Spectrogram is available for download at Tom Hammond's website 
www.n0ss.net, and Tom has some nice documentation with setup information 
and screenshots.

You can expect as much as 20 Hz variation in pitch as you change from 
filter to filter since it is limited by the DAC resolution.  That is not 
enough variation to be troublesome, but is disconcerting the first time 
you hear it.  If you have more than 20 Hz, the BFOs are not set up right.

I hope you are not iced in there today, we have a nice slick sheet here 
in Wake Forest.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 2:34 PM, Dave Anderson, K4SV wrote:
 Hi All,

 Just completed assembling my K2 kit I had on the shelf for 7 years SN 3089.

 After engineering a cap change to get the VCO voltage correct (C72 from 270 to
 300pf) it appears to work now.

 I went through the tuning OK but wanted to ask if there is a better way to
 adjust the BFO so that all of the filters peak on the same frequency?  In
 looking at the old emails about tuning the filters only to find that the
 Spectrum APP is not available anymore, can someone point me to a procedure 
 that
 can aid in this endeavor?

 Thanks in advance,

 Dave Anderson, K4SV
 Tryon, NC
   828 777-5088

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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Ferch
In the K3's CONFIG:CW WGHT configuration item, what is your setting for 
automatic VFO offset on SSB/CW mode changes (changed by tapping the 5 
button)? If this option is set to VFO OFS and the frequency change is 
performed before the mode change, the mode change will result in an 
offset equal to your CW sidetone pitch. If this option is set to VFO 
NOR, or if the mode change is performed before the frequency change, 
there will be no such offset. This could account for both the offset and 
the difference between the two software programs.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
  I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this.  Maybe (hopefully) 
someone here can help?
 
  I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3.  I have been experiencing an oddity that 
I have
  not been able to resolve:
 
  With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 
goes
  to 3503.5.  No problem.
 
  With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double 
click on
  a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.
 
  With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
  click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.
 
  I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes.  This 
happens in
  DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Dave Perry
Wayne,

As I said, I had this problem a few months ago.  Here is the solution from 
Rich, VE3KI:

What is your setting for CONFIG:VFO OFS (see CONFIG:CW WGHT in the
manual)? If you have CONFIG:VFO OFS turned on, the mode change between SSB
and CW will cause the dial frequency to jump by the CW sidetone pitch.

As I recall, I just turned OFS off in the K3 and everything was back to normal.

73,

Dave, N4QS


I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this.  Maybe (hopefully) someone 
here can help?
 
 I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3.  I have been experiencing an oddity that I have 
 not been able to resolve:
 
 With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes 
 to 3503.5.  No problem.
 
 With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click on 
 a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.
 
 With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double 
 click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.
 
 I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes.  This happens in 
 DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
 
 Neither RIT nor XIT are on.  Anyone have an idea where this is coming from?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne, N1WR,  K3 s/n 1945
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[Elecraft] ERR 12V

2011-01-11 Thread Ralph Parker
...all of a sudden radio #1 (K3 sn 594) flashed the ERR 12v message, and
CHECK CIRCUIT BREAKER etc... circuit breaker was not tripped...

I've had multiple occasions of a similar situation.
N1MM via MicroHam to K3to Acom amp.
During the last few CW contests, occasionally in the middle of a
transmission the K3 would stop transmitting and flash the ERR 12V and
check circuit breaker messages. Meanwhile, N1MM is still sending data to
MicroHam.
I'd have to recycle the K3 power and turn the K3 power back up to 50 watts.
N1MM would then not send properly, and both N1MM and MicroHam router would
have to be re-booted.

Eventually, it would happen again (and in more than one contest).
I checked the circuit breaker, even removed and bypassed it, and removed
and checked the pins on the KPA3/100. All looks OK - no sign of heat or
stress.
 
At another location, we used two different K3s in the CQ WW CW, and had
similar problems with one of them, although we didn't see the ERR 12V
message. It also required rebooting everything.

In normal (non-contest) operation, I have had no problems.
I have not ruled out RF ingress to computer, interface or K3 as the cause
of the problem.
K3 Support thinks it is voltage drop across the KPA3/100 pins.
I didn't think to look at the PA temp, but the fans were operating normally.
(I almost never notice them anyway.)

I have subsequently re-arranged the interconnecting leads, and added
toroids where I think they might help.
I'm now waiting for the next contest to see what happens.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR 12V

2011-01-11 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Ralph Parker ve...@dccnet.com wrote:

 ...In normal (non-contest) operation, I have had no problemsI'm now
 waiting for the next contest to see what happens...


At the moment, Murphy is vacationing in the Spratly Islands. He will be back
to visit your shack right after the flag drops for the next contest.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

After properly performing the TX Gain calibrations, I don't
see any significant difference between tones (K3 s/n 477):

   Mark   Space Difference
   at 100W100.50 100.40  -0.004 dB
   80W 80.70  79.50  -0.06 dB
   60W 60.90  60.00  -0.06 dB
   40W 40.50  39.70  -0.08 dB
   20W 20.22  19.61  -0.13 dB

Measured into a known flat 50 Ohm dummy load with TelePost LP-100
watt meter.  K3 is keyed in FSK, power at mark recorded and the FSK
line closed and power at Space tone recorded without opening PTT.
If PTT is opened and closed between reading power at Mark and Space,
the two power levels are identical within the resolution of the
watt meter.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 1/10/2011 7:07 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 5 pole 2.7 kHz SSB filters will also have a little more natural ripple
 than the 8 pole 2.8s.

 73,
 Eric


 On 1/10/2011 3:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Hi Hank,

 The difference in amplitude is due to the small amount of ripple in
 the crystal filter. The effect on transmission bandwidth is
 negligible, and it's also extremely unlikely to affect copy.
 Nonetheless, we're planning to provide a way to tune out the difference.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-11 Thread Alan Bloom
The effect of the skew (difference in amplitude of the mark and space
tones) is to cause an undesired amplitude modulation in addition to the
desired frequency modulation of the FSK.  If the skew is due to a
constant slope in the frequency response, then the shape of the
modulation is the same for the AM and the FM.

1 dB of skew is equivalent to about 10% AM modulation.  I haven't
calculated the Bessel functions, but it seems clear that the sidebands
from 10% AM modulation are much weaker than the sidebands of the 170-Hz
deviation FSK (which is a modulation index much greater than 1 for
45-baud RTTY).

 A rough guess turned out to be relatively easy and the bottom line is
 that the far off QRM is only about 10 dB down from a phase
 NON-continuous case of FSK generation, if the mark and space signals
 are different by 1 dB.

That sounds about right.  If the FSK signal is unfiltered (instantaneous
transitions between mark and space) then so will be the AM modulation.
If you slow down the FSK transitions, then the AM transitions will slow
down by the same amount.  For any wave shape the AM sidebands are always
much less than the FM sidebands.

I don't believe 1 dB of skew would cause any significant additional QRM
to nearby channels.

As for affecting the received bit error rate, 1 dB of skew should be no
worse than reducing power by 1 dB.  Less than that if the transmitter is
tuned for constant average power rather than constant peak power.

Still, it would be worthwhile to eliminate the skew.  I understand Wayne
has that on his list.

Alan N1AL


On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 21:44 -0800, Kok Chen wrote:
 On Jan 10, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 
  The effect on transmission bandwidth is  negligible, and it's also
 extremely unlikely to affect copy.
 
 
 Hank W6SX had written to ask me for a rough guess of transmission
 bandwidth when there is a 1 dB difference in level between mark and
 space carriers. 
 
 A rough guess turned out to be relatively easy and the bottom line is
 that the far off QRM is only about 10 dB down from a phase
 NON-continuous case of FSK generation, if the mark and space signals
 are different by 1 dB.  Basically, about 10 dB down from the first
 plot in this web page:
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/chen/Technical/FSK/Sidebands/sidebands.html
 
 The ideal FSK phase continuous signal should look like the second plot
 on that page.
 
 So, forget about phase noise!  Your FSK keying sidebands are going to
 be a much bigger problem for your nearby neighbors :-).
 
 I think that a judicious choice of tone pairs could help, but it is a
 band-aid, not a technical solution.
 
 73
 Chen, W7AY
 
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR 12V

2011-01-11 Thread Dave Sergeant
On 11 Jan 2011 at 15:03, Tony Estep wrote:

 At the moment, Murphy is vacationing in the Spratly Islands. He will be
 back to visit your shack right after the flag drops for the next
 contest.
 

And that might be sooner than you think. Posted today from the DX0DX 
team, still marooned in DU land:

To the DX Community at large - It's with regret that as Team Leader, I 
have to announce the postponement of the DXØDX Spratly Islands 
DXpedition 2011, due to circumstances beyond the control of the DXØDX 
Team.

73 Dave G3YMC
  

http://www.davesergeant.com

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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Wayne Rogers
Thanks to all the responders.  Unhappily I haven't yet found the problem: 
Here's what's been suggested:

I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the  K3 
or in DX4WIN or both.  I believe it is set to 650, but I can't find 
anything that would cause the spot offset.

Try changing  CONFIG CW WGHT.  TAP1 to not have CW+SSB in the window.  I 
tried this with the settings of both CW+SSB and CW-SSB but didn't fix the 
problem.

Turn CONFIG: VFO OFS - OFF.  It was OFF.

What version of K3 software are you using?  MCU 04.22, FPF 01.14, DSP1 
02.70 ( all current).

Thanks to all,

Wayne N1WR


 On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
 I got no help from the DX4WIN reflector on this.  Maybe (hopefully) 
 someone here can help?

 I use DX4WIN 8.08 and a K3.  I have been experiencing an oddity that I 
 have
 not been able to resolve:

 With K3 tuned to 3500.0, if I double click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 
 goes
 to 3503.5.  No problem.

 With the K3 in the CW portion of the band (e.g. 3503.5) if I double click 
 on
 a spot at 3800.0 the K3 goes to 3800.65.

 With the radio in the SSB portion of the band (e.g. 3800.0) if I double
 click on a spot at 3503.5 the K3 goes to 3502.85.

 I am getting a 650 Hz offset whenever the K3 changes modes.  This happens 
 in
 DX4WIN, but not in N1MM.
 
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[Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping

2011-01-11 Thread Mark n2qt
after the 62nd recommendation for this headset I have finally ordered one.  

http://www.samash.com/p/Yamaha_CM500-Headphones-with-Microphone_-49969751

Mark n2qt


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Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Harmon
Thanks for the info Mark,  good price and no shipping cost!

I also have succumbed to the many recommendations and realized that 
I was hopelessly induced to buy the headphones.  :)

Bob
K6UJ





On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Mark n2qt wrote:

 after the 62nd recommendation for this headset I have finally ordered one.  
 
 http://www.samash.com/p/Yamaha_CM500-Headphones-with-Microphone_-49969751
 
 Mark n2qt
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] RES: Yamaha CM500

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/10/2011 5:42 AM, py5eg wrote:
 Has someone tested for yaesu rigs? What are the results?

Yes. A few months ago, I made a simple adapter to connect a CM500 to an 
FT1000MP for use at PJ4A. I checked it out with the MP that's still on 
my shelf (and for sale), and got critical on the air reports from a 
nearby super contester.

The CM500 works just fine with the Yaesu, and sounds great.  No 
adjustments needed for headphones. For the mic, you will need to set the 
mic gain VERY LOW to avoid overdriving the Yaesu's mic input. This does 
NOT imply anything bad about either the mic or the rig -- it's just that 
the mic is hot and the MP has plenty of available gain to accommodate 
mics that have very low output.  And, as with any mic and the MP (or 
it's descendents), you need to carefully select the TX DSP that does the 
least damage to the audio. But if you DON'T turn the mic gain way down, 
or if you don't select the right DSP, the audio will sound just awful 
(like far too many SSB contesters). :)

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting a buzz, the wrong way

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/7/2011 7:04 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
 If you have a wire antenna, disconnect it, put 50 ohms across the coax and
 hook it to your scope. If you are like me, you will see a hideous waveform
 of mixed harmonics of 60 hz,

If you see a lot of 60Hz and its harmonics on a scope as you have 
described here, I would STRONGLY suspect a pin 1 problem in the scope. 
The most common form of a Pin 1 Problem is the mis-connection of a cable 
shield to internal circuitry rather than to the equipment chassis. 
Another common form is the connection of the power system equipment 
ground (the Green wire) to internal wiring, rather than to the chassis.

With either (or both) of these design errors, any current flowing on 
either or both of those leads (the cable shield and/or the green wire) 
flows through the equipment, creates a voltage drop on that wiring that 
is added to the signal path and amplified. If it is modulated RF, it is 
often detected, and is a common cause of RFI.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and K3 Microphone Input Impedance

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/6/2011 2:55 PM, George  Jan wrote:
 It is not critical at all - should be at least 10 times the microphone
 impedance.

Actually, the current applicable IEC Standard DEFINES the impedance of a 
microphone as 5X its rated load impedance. And yes, a higher input Z is 
better -- the rated impedance is a minimum value.  Most professional 
mics have an impedance of 150-250 ohms, and most pro mic inputs have an 
input impedance of at least 1K-1.5K ohms, and there are excellent 
technical reasons for values of 5K ohms or greater.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
Member, AES Standards Committee and WG on Microphones
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Flat ferrite clamp-ons for window line

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Brown
Guy,

Look at Fair-Rite 2643167851  This MIGHT allow several turns of some 
smaller window line, maybe enough to be useful at HF. Remember that you 
need a complete magnetic circuit, so this makes it unlikely that ferrite 
parts designed for ribbon cable will fit your need.

I assume you're attempting a common mode choke.  Take a look at the 
latest version of my RFI tutorial, which shows some very nice medium 
power HF common mode chokes having a Z of about 100 ohms wound on #31 
toroids with #14 THHN.  You could raise the impedance by spreading the 
bifilar pair a bit.  Unlikely you'll achieve a perfect match, but we 
both know that's probably not a deal killer for a section of line that's 
less than 1/30 wavelength at the operating frequency. :)

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping

2011-01-11 Thread Hector Padron
Coincidently I ordered my second pair this morning at that same site,they 
charged me $47 shiped to Florida.They said also they have a strore in Tampa 
here so I should have them in two days.
 
AD4C
 


If freedom means something,it is the right to tell others what they don't want 
to hear –George Orwell

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Mark n2qt n...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Mark n2qt n...@verizon.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 10:44 PM


after the 62nd recommendation for this headset I have finally ordered one.  

http://www.samash.com/p/Yamaha_CM500-Headphones-with-Microphone_-49969751

Mark n2qt


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Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping

2011-01-11 Thread Hector Padron
no shipping cost
 
Not exactly truth,they told me there is no free shiping for the state of FL 
although it was just few bucks.
 
AD4C
 


If freedom means something,it is the right to tell others what they don't want 
to hear –George Orwell

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Robert Harmon k...@pacbell.net wrote:


From: Robert Harmon k...@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 in stock at Sam Ash for $45 inc shipping
To: Mark n2qt n...@arrl.net
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 11:10 PM


Thanks for the info Mark,  good price and no shipping cost!

I also have succumbed to the many recommendations and realized that 
I was hopelessly induced to buy the headphones.  :)

Bob
K6UJ


    


On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Mark n2qt wrote:

 after the 62nd recommendation for this headset I have finally ordered one.  
 
 http://www.samash.com/p/Yamaha_CM500-Headphones-with-Microphone_-49969751
 
 Mark n2qt
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Wayne Rogers
Problem solved - thanks to Dave, N4QS.

Under CONFIG CW WGHT - tapping 5 toggles between VFO offset on SSB/CW mode 
change (VFO OFS) or
no offset (VFO NOR, default).  After Dave pointed this out I went to the pdf 
version of the manual and sure enough - it included this option.  I guess I 
need to toss the old (outdated) hard copy manual I got with the radio!

73, Wayne

Wayne Rogers wrote:
 Thanks to all the responders.  Unhappily I haven't yet found the problem:
 Here's what's been suggested:

 I would wager that you have your CW pitch set to 650 Hz, either in the 
 K3
 or in DX4WIN or both.  I believe it is set to 650, but I can't find
 anything that would cause the spot offset.

 Try changing  CONFIG CW WGHT.  TAP1 to not have CW+SSB in the window.  I
 tried this with the settings of both CW+SSB and CW-SSB but didn't fix the
 problem.

 Turn CONFIG: VFO OFS - OFF.  It was OFF.

 What version of K3 software are you using?  MCU 04.22, FPF 01.14, DSP1
 02.70 ( all current).

 Thanks to all,

 Wayne N1WR

 

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Re: [Elecraft] help with DX4WIN

2011-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Wayne,

I would not trash that hard copy manual - it contains information about 
the connections to the K3 and the various buttons and knobs that are 
still valid.

The biggest changes are in the menu system, so I would advise to 
download the latest .pdf version of the manual and print the section 
dealing with the menu items. then insert it in your manual as an update.

- AND pay attention to the Firmware Release Notes (print them if you 
want, but K3 Utility Help is a convenient resource for that information).

That information should keep you up-to-date with the latest major 
changes to the K3 - it is mostly in the firmware.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 8:10 PM, Wayne Rogers wrote:
 Problem solved - thanks to Dave, N4QS.

 Under CONFIG CW WGHT - tapping 5 toggles between VFO offset on SSB/CW mode
 change (VFO OFS) or
 no offset (VFO NOR, default).  After Dave pointed this out I went to the pdf
 version of the manual and sure enough - it included this option.  I guess I
 need to toss the old (outdated) hard copy manual I got with the radio!

 73, Wayne

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[Elecraft] No PTT

2011-01-11 Thread Hunter Ellington
For no particular reason (that I know of) my K3 serial #849 suddenly has no ptt 
function.  I have gone into the menu and cannot re-engage the PTT.  I get an 
error message of err tfx.  The rig will tune in cw, but no PTT.  What am I 
doing 
wrong?  I'm sure it is painfully obvious.   


 K0GFY R. Hunter Ellington
303-454-0543/720-560-8139
P.O. Box 44
Larkspur, CO 80118



  
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[Elecraft] K3 For Sale

2011-01-11 Thread Jim MacKenzie
My financial circumstance requires that I reluctantly need to sell my K3 and 
related equipment.  My K3 (100W) includes the KAT3 (auto tuner) and the KXV3 
(Transverter interface).  I also have the W2-A Wattmeter (SWR Bridge) with the 
1.8-54 MHz 200 Watt coupler -- all factory assembled.  Included are both the K3 
handheld microphone as well as a Heil Proset-K2 boomset headset with mic and 
the Heil dual floor switch.  I am a non-smoker and would prefer to sell all the 
equipment at the same time but I will consider selling individual pieces.  The 
cost for everything mentioned is $3,040.00.

If interested please contact me off list with K3 in the subject line so I can 
tell it isn't spam.

Jim MacKenzie, WH7RG
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Re: [Elecraft] No PTT

2011-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Hunter,

The ERR TXF is significant.  If you check the manual, you will find that 
message is telling you that you do not have the correct transmit filter 
selected.
The easy way is to use K3Utility.  The Transmit filter for CW, Data 
modes and SSB must be the 2.7 (2.8) kHz filter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2011 11:25 PM, Hunter Ellington wrote:
 For no particular reason (that I know of) my K3 serial #849 suddenly has no 
 ptt
 function.  I have gone into the menu and cannot re-engage the PTT.  I get an
 error message of err tfx.  The rig will tune in cw, but no PTT.  What am I 
 doing
 wrong?  I'm sure it is painfully obvious.


   K0GFY R. Hunter Ellington
 303-454-0543/720-560-8139
 P.O. Box 44
 Larkspur, CO 80118

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Re: [Elecraft] unequal power output per tone in FSK

2011-01-11 Thread Alan Bloom
I decided that rather than depend on a hand-waving argument I would go
ahead and do a Mathcad simulation to calculate the effect of 1 dB of
tone skew (unequal mark and space tone amplitudes) on the transmitted
FSK spectrum.  Basically, I found that it made no significant
difference.

A PDF of the Mathcad file is at:

ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/tmp/FSK_tone_skew.pdf

The equations are on the first page and the spectrum graphs are on the
second.  (On my browser I have to copy the part of the above URL after
the ftp://; part and paste it into the browser window to get FTP to
work.)

Alan N1AL



On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 13:10 -0800, Alan Bloom wrote:
 The effect of the skew (difference in amplitude of the mark and space
 tones) is to cause an undesired amplitude modulation in addition to the
 desired frequency modulation of the FSK.  If the skew is due to a
 constant slope in the frequency response, then the shape of the
 modulation is the same for the AM and the FM.
 
 1 dB of skew is equivalent to about 10% AM modulation.  I haven't
 calculated the Bessel functions, but it seems clear that the sidebands
 from 10% AM modulation are much weaker than the sidebands of the 170-Hz
 deviation FSK (which is a modulation index much greater than 1 for
 45-baud RTTY).
 
  A rough guess turned out to be relatively easy and the bottom line is
  that the far off QRM is only about 10 dB down from a phase
  NON-continuous case of FSK generation, if the mark and space signals
  are different by 1 dB.
 
 That sounds about right.  If the FSK signal is unfiltered (instantaneous
 transitions between mark and space) then so will be the AM modulation.
 If you slow down the FSK transitions, then the AM transitions will slow
 down by the same amount.  For any wave shape the AM sidebands are always
 much less than the FM sidebands.
 
 I don't believe 1 dB of skew would cause any significant additional QRM
 to nearby channels.
 
 As for affecting the received bit error rate, 1 dB of skew should be no
 worse than reducing power by 1 dB.  Less than that if the transmitter is
 tuned for constant average power rather than constant peak power.
 
 Still, it would be worthwhile to eliminate the skew.  I understand Wayne
 has that on his list.
 
 Alan N1AL
 
 
 On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 21:44 -0800, Kok Chen wrote:
  On Jan 10, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
  
   The effect on transmission bandwidth is  negligible, and it's also
  extremely unlikely to affect copy.
  
  
  Hank W6SX had written to ask me for a rough guess of transmission
  bandwidth when there is a 1 dB difference in level between mark and
  space carriers. 
  
  A rough guess turned out to be relatively easy and the bottom line is
  that the far off QRM is only about 10 dB down from a phase
  NON-continuous case of FSK generation, if the mark and space signals
  are different by 1 dB.  Basically, about 10 dB down from the first
  plot in this web page:
  
  http://homepage.mac.com/chen/Technical/FSK/Sidebands/sidebands.html
  
  The ideal FSK phase continuous signal should look like the second plot
  on that page.
  
  So, forget about phase noise!  Your FSK keying sidebands are going to
  be a much bigger problem for your nearby neighbors :-).
  
  I think that a judicious choice of tone pairs could help, but it is a
  band-aid, not a technical solution.
  
  73
  Chen, W7AY
  

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