[Elecraft] [OT] Ham Radio near high voltage power lines?

[ae4pb]

Just moved to a new QTH and there are high voltage power lines cutting
across the corner of our property running NW direction. The house is on the
East side of the lines. 

Is it reasonable to expect good operability or is it a wash? I don't want to
go through the troubles if I'll just be frustrated. 

Was looking to do a 60' tower for the high bands (I'll still be below the
lines height wise), multiband vertical (low bands 80/40/30) , and
dipole(80/40). 

Vertical is planned to have 60 or more radials. 

 

Thanks in advance.

Jerry D. Moore aka AE4PB

 

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[Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and P3 in a box

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Hi, 
I'm packing my K3s and P3 in a Pelican 1550 case. This is just to protect
the rig while it's in storage until we can get into our new house. 
How much foam packing around the rig is sufficient? I'd like to put the rig
and P3 next to each other only separated by the rubber feet on the K3. 
If I do this I believe I can get about an inch on the sides and  maybe 2 or
more inches front/back/top/bottom. 
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
De AE4PB
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Re: [Elecraft] USB Noise core gets hot when operating FT*?

[AE4PB]

Thanks Rick, 

 My Antenna situation is temporary. I purchased a Hustler 6BTV from DX
Engineering am working on getting it installed. It may take several weeks as
I work full time and  am working towards my MBA full time. I may shuffle the
project priorities around and work on the Coax routing to move my temporary
antenna outdoors. Since it's a temporary setup I'll be routing out through
the window which is going to take a bit of construction to achieve something
that's secure and energy friendly. I'm not able to avoid using USB but I can
certainly move the antenna. 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB

 

>Jerry,

 

>Ignoring how you've set up your station for the moment (every station has
compromises but some push that to an extreme); the shutdown? of the
connection is likely that RF got into the USB cable (as demonstrated by the
hot >ferrite) which caused the USB port hardware to lock up.

 

>USB hardware can 'stick' so it won't work properly, a complete power cycle
empties it of any charge, 'unsticking' the hardware.? (Yah a gross
simplification, but you get the point.)

 

>The only SURE way to restore it to function (assuming it's not blown) is a
complete power down (unplugged from all power, let the power supply drain,
disconnect the laptop battery, count another ten seconds) and restart.? That
is >why it worked after you 'cooled it off'.

 

>If you can shift to a real serial port (not a serial dongle), that will
help.? USB is RF intolerant compared to serial.? It's simplest to avoid USB
as much as feasible near any RF.

 

>If you can't avoid USB, you'll need to add a lot more ferrite or better
yet, improve the antenna situation dramatically.

 

>In the cases I MUST run a USB connection, I distance the antenna from the
computer as much as possible and I run <100 watts (QRP to me), but generally
that's when I run a portable station.? Jim, K9YC will tell you it's related
to 'Pin >1' and the short version is that is has to do with bonding all
things to a common ground; USB devices often ignore this.

 

>In a few cases, improved bonding between the computer and radio /may/ help,
but I'd have low hopes if the antenna is mere feet away.? Take the hot
ferrite as a warning sign, it's not a healthy environment.

 

>73,

>Rick NK7I

 

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Re: [Elecraft] USB Noise core gets hot when operating FT*?

[AE4PB]

I’m not sure, but, it’s a good point. I’m only running 50Watts.

 

From: donov...@starpower.net  
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:36 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB Noise core gets hot when operating FT*?

 

With your antenna that close, are you sure you're not exceeding human

body RF exposure requirements?

 

73

Frank

W3LPL

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:46:55 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] USB Noise core gets hot when operating FT*?

Today I was working a digital mode (FT8) and lost connection to the radio. I
cycled power with no success. On reseating the USB connection at the
computer I felt the ferrite core was HOT. The cable didn't feel hot at all.
I'm using a 20m hamstick in the office as my antenna. I shut everything down
to cool off. Afterwards everything seems to be working correctly.

Any ideas?

Tnx and 73

Jerry D. Moore

AE4PB

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[Elecraft] USB Noise core gets hot when operating FT*?

[AE4PB]

Today I was working a digital mode (FT8) and lost connection to the radio. I
cycled power with no success. On reseating the USB connection at the
computer I felt the ferrite core was HOT. The cable didn't feel hot at all.
I'm using a 20m hamstick in the office as my antenna. I shut everything down
to cool off. Afterwards everything seems to be working correctly.

Any ideas?

Tnx and 73

Jerry D. Moore

AE4PB

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[Elecraft] What's the best method to send high speed CW?

[AE4PB]

What's the best method to send high speed CW with a K3S via Computer?
Serial adapter to the Key port or software via USB or ??
73
Jerry D. Moore
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Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

[AE4PB]

Hi Frank, 

I don’t know the manf or part number. This is ½ hard cable from the cable 
company that I received as a gift from very fine OM K4MQG, Gary Dixon.

I just guessed at the freq for 10m. I don’t use the band so I just put 
something in. 

The extra digits are a result of the number used as the numerator in the 
calculation and I didn’t want to round it because I’ll convert that to inches 
and add a bit before I actually cut. 

I used 80% for the vf

Thank you Frank !!

 

My antenna purchase (Hustler 6BTV ) is slightly delayed (holding onto cash 
until after the pandemic). 

I can still get the radial and coax work done. 

Jerry – AE4PB

73

.. 

 

From: donov...@starpower.net  
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 2:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

 

Hi Jerry,

 

What coax do you plan to use (manufacturer and part number)?

 

Did you intentionally use 27 MHz in the last row?

 

Your other calculations look good but you carried them to far too many

significant digits when the Vf of most coax (especially CATV coax)

is only approximate.

 

Cut your coax ten percent too long, leave the end of the coax open circuited.

Your antenna analyzer will then set the length very accurately.

 

73

Frank

W3LPL

 

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From: ae...@carolinaheli.com <mailto:ae...@carolinaheli.com> 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 12:53:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

So I found a formula for feedline length and just need some eyes on it to make 
sure I applied it correctly. 
I want to measure twice and  cut once. Then I can use my antenna analyzer with 
a dummy load on the line to trim it. 

The columns are band, freq in Mhz, Multiplier to give multiples of the 1/2 wave 
length.
You have to view the email full screen width or the tables wrap making it hard 
to read. 
It looks like 111.7694545 feet is the calculated half wavelength for 80m 
(3.53Mhz), not sure what will happen on 30m as it's closest length appears to 
occur at 3 wavelengths where the feedline would be about 4.801946936 Feet too 
long. 
Not sure what the SWR related losses will be but it will probably be ok. 

BANDFreq 1   2  
  2.53  3.5 
 4  4.5   5 
 5.5  6 6 6.5   
 7 7.58
803.52111.7694545223.5389091279.4236364
335.3083636391.1930909447.0778182502.9625455
558.8472727614.732670.6167273726.5014545
782.3861818838.2709091894.1556364
407.0455.88472727111.7694545139.7118182
167.6541818195.5965455223.5389091251.4812727
279.4236364307.366335.3083636363.2507273
391.1930909419.1354545447.0778182
3010.12538.8571338377.7142676597.14283457   
 116.5714015135.684155.4285353174.8571022
194.2856691213.714236233.142803252.5713699
271.368291.4285037310.8570706
2014.0827.9423636455.8847272769.85590909
83.8270909197.79827273111.7694545125.7406364
139.7118182153.683167.6541818181.6253636
195.5965455209.5677273223.5389091
1521.418.3845084136.7690168245.96127103
55.1535252364.3457794473.5380336482.73028785
91.92254206101.1147963110.3070505119.4993047
128.6915589137.8838131147.0760673
102714.5714251929.1428503736.42856296
43.7142755650.881558.2857007465.57141333
72.8571259380.1428385287.4285511194.7142637
101.763109.2856889116.5714015

Formula used: L = (S * W * Vf)/f


S 983.5712  
  
W0.5

VF0.8   
 983.5712
L = (S

Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

[AE4PB]

So I found a formula for feedline length and just need some eyes on it to make 
sure I applied it correctly. 
I want to measure twice and  cut once. Then I can use my antenna analyzer with 
a dummy load on the line to trim it. 

The columns are band, freq in Mhz, Multiplier to give multiples of the 1/2 wave 
length.
You have to view the email full screen width or the tables wrap making it hard 
to read. 
It looks like 111.7694545 feet is the calculated half wavelength for 80m 
(3.53Mhz), not sure what will happen on 30m as it's closest length appears to 
occur at 3 wavelengths where the feedline would be about 4.801946936 Feet too 
long. 
Not sure what the SWR related losses will be but it will probably be ok. 

BANDFreq  1   2 
2.5 3  3.5  
  4  4.5   5
  5.5   6   6.5 
77.58
80  3.52111.7694545 223.5389091 279.4236364 335.3083636 
391.1930909 447.0778182 502.9625455 558.8472727 614.732 
670.6167273 726.5014545 782.3861818 838.2709091 894.1556364
40  7.0455.88472727 111.7694545 139.7118182 167.6541818 
195.5965455 223.5389091 251.4812727 279.4236364 307.366 
335.3083636 363.2507273 391.1930909 419.1354545 447.0778182
30  10.125  38.85713383 77.71426765 97.14283457 116.5714015 
135.684 155.4285353 174.8571022 194.2856691 213.714236  
233.142803  252.5713699 271.368 291.4285037 310.8570706
20  14.08   27.94236364 55.88472727 69.85590909 83.82709091 
97.79827273 111.7694545 125.7406364 139.7118182 153.683 
167.6541818 181.6253636 195.5965455 209.5677273 223.5389091
15  21.418.38450841 36.76901682 45.96127103 55.15352523 
64.34577944 73.53803364 82.73028785 91.92254206 101.1147963 
110.3070505 119.4993047 128.6915589 137.8838131 147.0760673
10  27  14.57142519 29.14285037 36.42856296 43.71427556 
50.8815 58.28570074 65.57141333 72.85712593 80.14283852 
87.42855111 94.7142637  101.763 109.2856889 116.5714015

Formula used: L = (S * W * Vf)/f


S   983.5712

W   0.5 

VF  0.8 
983.5712
L = (S * W * Vf)/f  

S speed of light in meters or feet  

W number of wavelengths desired 

VF velocity factor  


Jerry Moore
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Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

[AE4PB]

The 200' run is Cable TV hardline (1/2") 75 Ohm, that's where the UnUn would go 
(maybe). 

Jerry Moore
Cell: 803-431-1870

-Original Message-
From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP  
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:58 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

I don't think you need a unun because the additional loss due to SWR running 
RG/6 at 2:1 is only 0.381 dB, and the unun itself would certainly have some 
loss.
But the loss in 200' of RG/6 even at 1:1 is about 2.9 dB! That is almost half 
your power. RG/8 would have only 1.9 dB loss, and with a probable SWR of about 
1.5:1 you would have a total loss of 2.2 dB.
Even better would be Belden 9913 or similar coax, which would give you a total 
loss of 1.6 dB.
All these facts and more are available at 
<https://www.qsl.net/co8tw/Coax_Calculator.htm>

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 31/03/2020 19:39, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> I'm about to pull the trigger on a Hustler 6BTV (6-Band, 80, 40, 30, 
> 20, 15,
> 10 meters). It will be temporarily installed (with radials) about 200' 
> away from my house. I'd like to run CATV "hardline" but I'm not sure 
> how to get a
> 2:1 UnUn with a wide enough bandwidth on the antenna side (the 
> impedance with 60ish radials should be in the 35ohm range). In 
> addition I believe I will be ok on the RIG side to just connect RG6 
> (75ohm) to the hardline and direct to the rig since my K3S can match 
> the impedance. Is this essentially correct and is there a better way 
> to do this? I'm trying to minimize losses for the distance run and still have 
> a decent transmitted signal.
> Thanks in advance.
> Yeah, I should know this stuff but I can't know everything 100%.
> 
> 73 es
> De AE4PB
> ..
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[Elecraft] 75ohm Impedance question K3S and Antenna side.

[AE4PB]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Hustler 6BTV (6-Band, 80, 40, 30, 20, 15,
10 meters). It will be temporarily installed (with radials) about 200' away
from my house. I'd like to run CATV "hardline" but I'm not sure how to get a
2:1 UnUn with a wide enough bandwidth on the antenna side (the impedance
with 60ish radials should be in the 35ohm range). In addition I believe I
will be ok on the RIG side to just connect RG6 (75ohm) to the hardline and
direct to the rig since my K3S can match the impedance. Is this essentially
correct and is there a better way to do this? I'm trying to minimize losses
for the distance run and still have a decent transmitted signal. 
Thanks in advance. 
Yeah, I should know this stuff but I can't know everything 100%. 

73 es
De AE4PB
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[Elecraft] Operator Humor - To Key or not to Key..is that really a question?

[AE4PB]

So I ordered and received a new Kent double paddle key from DX Engineering.
I was excited by how nice it looked and got a thrill setting up the
soldering iron to install the phono plug. All done soldering; it's a simple
job so no need to check out the connections with a meter. Plugged into the
K3s, test mode, CW mode.what the heck is that odd warble sound? How
could I mess up a simple soldering job. Must have plugged the key into the
wrong slot...nope it's in the paddle slot; where's my meter...mmm, ok
scavenger hunt for the meter; didn't find the meter; let's verify settings,
everything looks good; search again for the meter found it!!
Interestingplug wiring appears to be correct.. plug the key back in..
same warble tone. Ugh.. wife calling for dinner.. shut the rig down, then
power supply.go eat. 
Back from dinner, power up, same issue.. it's night time, let's check
40m...odd, the Frequency shows 4xxxMHz... changed band to 40M, test mode,
CW, VIOLA!!! Sounds sweet! 
I got a chuckle out of this. Missed the forest for the trees. 
Hope someone got at least a smile. 
73
Jer
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[Elecraft] Sharing something positive

[AE4PB]

Yesterday was my Birthday. On order is a Kent TP1-B key and I'm excited.
Currently studying hard to get my copy up from 5WPM to where it's supposed
to be (20+). Currently saving for a Hustler 6BTV+radials. I have a ?
Hightower - hi gain multi-band vertical that needs repair which I've decided
to sell if anyone is interested. I had a member of the reflector call me
with a ton of good information/advice. I appreciate the community feel and
support. 
73s
De AE4PB ..

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[Elecraft] Off-Topic - Antenna element repairs

[AE4PB]

I have a vertical antenna to repair and install that I believe is the same
as  or close to a hi-gain AV-18HT.
https://www.hy-gain.com/Product.php?productid=AV-18HT. 
The main antenna vertical was cut so it could be taken down. I purchased it
used in hopes I could repair and install it. 
I have two different places that require repair. Purchasing new parts for
the element appear to approach the cost of an entirely new antenna. 
I'm thinking of three different methods of repair but lack experience. 
1. I can braze the elements using aluminum brazing rods and flux.
2. I can get them welded back together but am concerned that the tubing is
very thin.
3. I can try to find tubing of sufficient size to put inside and then
pop-rivet/braze the pieces together. 

What do you folks suggest?

Thanks in advance. I've collected about a fourth of the wire necessary for
the radials. 

Jerry D. Moore
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 20

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You may want to consider exporting excel to CSV then opening in notepad,
copy/paste from that.
It's more readable/useable in a text based environment that doesn't support
HTML cells. 
Just a thought. 

Jerry Moore
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 10:59:30 -0700 (MST)
From: K8TE 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Excel Test
Message-ID: <1582567170117-0.p...@n2.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable
format.  I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at
the Elecraft Nabble page.  I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this
morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result.  Per Nabble's
instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box.  If it works,
this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or
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[Elecraft] S6 noise floor?

[AE4PB]

Aside from installing ferrite on all cables (not sure why this isn't
integrated somehow if it's that large of an issue) would having the shack
walls lined with a grounded screen help reduce/eliminate radio noise? 

Is the cost/effort worth it?

My wife and I are planning to build a house in a few years and I'm planning
out my station.

Based on the noise issues I have and have researched it sounds like I need a
shielded room where all cables in/out are wrapped in ferrite and power is
routed through a 1:1 transformer OR true sine wave UPS. 

Then I still have to deal with computer equipment noise and anything else to
get a clean signal where the ground noise is low.

 

Jerry Moore

Cell: 803-431-1870

 

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[Elecraft] Support backed up?

[AE4PB]

I called to order my vga card and some other parts which I needed tech
support answer, I sent an email yesterday and haven't heard back.

What's the expected response time?

 

 

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[Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions

[AE4PB]

I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I
feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced
noise and undue complexity into my station. 

Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't
fully understand what I'm reading yet. 

 

1.  When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent
the unit from sliding?
2.  The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to
local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need
to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the
P3. Any suggestions?
3.  What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251
4.  I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when
I purchase a cable + vga card?
5.  Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3?

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Found: P3

[AE4PB]

Good link! I could absolutely do that if I wasn’t working full time and earning 
a masters. I’d not get the keyboard functionality with a DIY card. 

I’m just not wanting to pay full retail for a legacy option (although I’m 
excited to get my P3 and VGA card). 

I’ll be picking up my P3 this week. 

 

I need to get over my key fright and get on the air a bit. Maybe Sunday  
afternoon. 

Es 73

De ae4pb ..

 

Jerry Moore

Cell: 803-431-1870

 

From: Phil Hystad  
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:02 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Found: P3

 

How about building your own…

 

https://eater.net/vga

 

73, phil, K7PEH

 





On Feb 18, 2020, at 9:54 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com 
<mailto:ae...@carolinaheli.com>  wrote:

 

Thank you very much! I should have it connected and going before the end of
the week.



I am wondering if it's a good idea to buy a pre-owned VGA card for the P3,
that is of course if I can find one. 



73

De AE4PB



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[Elecraft] Found: P3

[AE4PB]

Thank you very much! I should have it connected and going before the end of
the week.

 

I am wondering if it's a good idea to buy a pre-owned VGA card for the P3,
that is of course if I can find one. 

 

73

De AE4PB

 

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[Elecraft] WTB: Elecraft P3, P3SVGA, DCHF-200, P3TXMON (optional)

[AE4PB]

WTB: Elecraft P3, P3SVGA, DCHF-200, P3TXMON (optional)

Shipped 29708

 

Respond off list please. 

 

Jerry Moore

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[Elecraft] When might there be a P3 sale or drop in price

[AE4PB]

I've been fighting getting the P3 for years. After trying to get SDR based
pan adapters to work reliably (I like the mouse point and tune feature) I've
decided I want to buy a toaster. 

Just plug it in and it works. 

A fully loaded 200watt P3 with video card..etc is hard to swallow when I can
buy a new HF rig with the Pan adapter built in for less. 

Are there plans to have a sale or bigger discount?

My time frame for purchase is March. I'll probably be going to the
Charlotte, NC Hamfest for the purchase unless I'm on call that week. 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Jerry Moore

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[ae4pb]

I run and SDR with Ham Radio Deluxe. The SDR software connect to Ham Radio
Deluxe directly without using a port. I use a second monitor with my laptop
no second sound  card needed as the SDR comes directly in via USB and does
it's work. 
I get all of the benefits of Point and click. Since I use a laptop for
logging and radio control anyway it's a nice setup.
Jer

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert
G Strickland
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 6:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

I use LP-Pan2 with a M-Audio 96k sound card internal to the computer. 
Software is NaP3v4. The screen [for all applications] is a 21" LG. The
computer is an DIY AMD 2.1Ghz cpu, 2G ram, running Win7-64 [it's pretty long
in the tooth]. I use a microHam CW keyer interface with its Router
port-sharing software. Contest logging is N1MM. So...

The choice of LP-Pan is dictated by space requirements; no room for another
box at the operating position. So, my choice is not based on A-B
comparisons/performance. Otherwise, all K-line station.

I have never had any problems with the computer supporting LP-Pan and its
software, N1MM, and browser all at the same time. I can fit all of the
necessary and desired optional windows for all software on the screen during
a contest. NaP3 has never given me any trouble albeit it's no longer
supported by its author. No question that getting LP-Pan setup and running
is more demanding than the P3 which, so I hear, is pretty much a turnkey
operation. That said, once online, the LP-Pan setup is stable and runs
constantly throughout a 48hr contest without a hitch. In contests, I run the
NaP3 display at around 14"x4" on the LG monitor - very pretty and helpful.
Some use a dedicated monitor for their panadapter; however, I have not found
that necessary to provide the info that I "need" during a contest. Issues of
cost are an individual matter.

How one balances all these parameters is, again, an individual matter. 
Either way ends up with a useful tool. I can't imagine operating without a
panadapter at this point. So, prepare to get "hooked."

...robert

On 12/24/2015 16:47, Juliean Galak wrote:
> I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's
obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the
lp-pan, or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk -
there'll be a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these
solutions compared to the p3?  Especially the integration?
>
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> Juliean
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Re: [Elecraft] Speech bord for any of the Elecragt rigs?

[ae4pb]

If you use a computer to control your rig, most of them can speak
mode/freq..etc.. 
If you don't use a PC look around for some RASPBERRYPI software to speak the
mode/freq..etc. Something like this has probably been done. 


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Scott
Gillen ZL1CHM
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 6:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speech bord for any of the Elecragt rigs?

Thanks Jim I'll take a look

Scott
Thanks Guy. 

I'm looking mor for a unit that will speak the radio frequency, mode, menus
ect.  This would be quite a help to blind operators. These tasks don't
require a computer. Kenwood achieve it with a small plugin board. 

73
Scott
ZL1CHM / N0HO
Auckland New Zealand

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On 15/11/2015, at 3:55 AM, "Jim Sheldon" <w...@cox.net> wrote:

> Voice synthesizer no, but for the visually impaired there is a program on
http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm#voice called K3 Voice (also K2 vioce
and some other stuff) that does read the controls as they are pressed for
visually impaired persons.  If that's what you need  Scott, then go to that
URL and look for the K3 Voice program.
> 
> Jim - W0EB
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015, Scott Gillen ZL1CHM 
>> <zl1...@gillen.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm wondering if Elecraft produces or has considered producing a 
>>> speech synthesiser board for any of there radios?
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Scott
>>>  ZL1CHM / N0HO
>>> Auckland New Zealand
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[Elecraft] P3 Feature Request

[ae4pb]

P3 feature request: I'd like to be able to connect both a mouse and keyboard
and use the mouse for click to tune operation, drag and zoom, drag and
unzoom.etc..

 

I'm currently using $50 setup that requires a computer. If the P3 had mouse
features I'd strongly consider and probably buy it instead. 

Thanks in advance.

jer

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

[ae4pb]

I'll make a few comments with information you likely already know and drop
the thread.
1. audio hiss is common with the largest contributor being particles
traversing the substrate layers of semi-conductors (you get it in tubes as
well, just not as much). The design keys being S/N ratio, dynamic range, and
gain. Any solution to remove hiss without consideration to S/N ratio and
gain results in loss of signal level. Hard to complain about weak signal
work if the system is degraded by mods/adjustments.
2. By default the K3S receive audio isn't optimal for everyone's ears and
dynamic range. That's likely why there's an audio equalizer for both receive
and transmit audio. If you've not adjusted that to optimize the audio to
your tastes then you're missing out.

I have different hearing issues in each ear. My wish is to be able to adjust
left /right audio independently with both a single receiver and with the sub
installed. I currently run with AFX on full delay. I usually hear signals on
my right ear not my left unless I adjust the equalizer. My right ear being
more sensitive than my left.

Show me an audio circuit with no hiss and I'll show you missing signal
level. For most audio applications this doesn't matter because there's ample
signal. When working weak signal it's all about balance and working the
edges. If you operate with all knobs cranked to the right I'd humbly and
respectfully suggest that you review your operating procedures regardless of
the radio you use. 

Kenwood makes a good radio, however, I've NEVER had good luck with service
from them or Yaesu. Based on my experiences in forums, reflector, and
talking with other hams; Elecraft is rabidly good about support. 

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:23 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Fred Townsend'; 'Robert Sands';
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

Jer,

Perceived audio is just that.  Perception.  And to the individual, it is
*everything*.

Op skill does come into play, no doubt.

Types of noise come into play, no doubt.

The fact there are only two settings on the Kenwood does limit it's ability
to "work" under different noise condx.

The K3 is an excellent radio.  I bought one after using a friends at
Sweepstakes CW two years ago.  The only time I looked back was when I had to

hook up the Kenwood TS-480 and my perception is the NR was superior.

BTW, I sent the K3 back because of hiss in the audio with the audio gain
fully CCW.  Elecraft bent over backwards to find the issue, and advised they
compared to current production rigs, using an audio spectrum analyzer.  I
also sent the headphones to them in the event the complex impedance of them
would induce this hiss.  Yes, Elecraft service is second to none.

The radio still has hiss, so I put a resistive pad inline and the hiss is
gone and ride the audio at 12 noon.

Jim
W6AIM

P.S.  I do not subscribe to $75.00 per foot speaker cable  ;>)



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ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:20 AM
To: 'jim'; 'Fred Townsend'; 'Robert Sands'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

Jim,
  Here's a non-KookAid question for you.

Just like in school..
Show your work. 

You say that radio  has better  than the K3/K3S with latest hardware/firmware.
Please provide the data upon which you base this. 
What you hear /think you hear is not valid data because operator skill comes
into play. 
I'm no expert but have played with the K3S long enough to know the power of
it's NR is in finding the balance of settings to pull the desired signal out
of the noise. 

Any system that only has a button for NR and lacks granular control of the
parameters can't possibly pull signals out under all circumstances when
compared to a system that allows for granular control.

Opinions aside.. please provide the data upon which your claims are based. 

Claims without data are just opinion based on several factors; many of which
are out of the operators control and change over time. 

No KoolAid, just facts. I don't know that the K3S is better. On paper a
receiver system is dealing with component noise, board noise, power noise,
dynamic range, overhead, sensitivity, gain..etc..

On my K3S when digging out signals I'm playing with RF gain, Roofing
filters, IF DSP Filtering, AGC Slope, AGC Threshold, AGC Time, and finally
NR DSP algorithm (of which the K3S has LOTS). 
I have 2 main NR settings: One when I expect to have strong local signals
(e.g... contests) and one for normal use. When chasing weak signal DX I'll
play with settings to see what I can do. 

You're lucky 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

[ae4pb]

Jim,
  Here's a non-KookAid question for you.

Just like in school..
Show your work. 

You say that radio  has better  than the K3/K3S with latest hardware/firmware.
Please provide the data upon which you base this. 
What you hear /think you hear is not valid data because operator skill comes
into play. 
I'm no expert but have played with the K3S long enough to know the power of
it's NR is in finding the balance of settings to pull the desired signal out
of the noise. 

Any system that only has a button for NR and lacks granular control of the
parameters can't possibly pull signals out under all circumstances when
compared to a system that allows for granular control.

Opinions aside.. please provide the data upon which your claims are based. 

Claims without data are just opinion based on several factors; many of which
are out of the operators control and change over time. 

No KoolAid, just facts. I don't know that the K3S is better. On paper a
receiver system is dealing with component noise, board noise, power noise,
dynamic range, overhead, sensitivity, gain..etc..

On my K3S when digging out signals I'm playing with RF gain, Roofing
filters, IF DSP Filtering, AGC Slope, AGC Threshold, AGC Time, and finally
NR DSP algorithm (of which the K3S has LOTS). 
I have 2 main NR settings: One when I expect to have strong local signals
(e.g... contests) and one for normal use. When chasing weak signal DX I'll
play with settings to see what I can do. 

You're lucky to have never had to send your Kenwood radio in for repair. You
typically end up sending it to a third party repair shop with the hopes they
know what they are doing and do more good than harm.


Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:14 PM
To: 'Fred Townsend'; 'Robert Sands'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

Kenwood (even the "cheap" TS-480) has superior NR.  Even with just two
different, fixed, settings.

Jim
W6AIM



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Re: [Elecraft] having problems connecting my K-3 to Ham Radio Deluxe

[ae4pb]

What issues are you experiencing? I'm running the latest HRD with Win 10 and
not having any issues. Are you running any type of port multiplexing
software? I don't recall the name, however, one popular one definitely isn't
stable on win10.

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 9:31 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] having problems connecting my K-3 to Ham Radio
Deluxe

I tried HRD 6.0 and dumped it.  I find there are issues with Windows 10 and
HRD 6.0 that have not been resolved.

I do run Windows 10 and other applications,  i.e.  HRD 5.0/DM-780, FLDIGI,
WSJT-X and others very successfully with the K3S and the USB to radio
connection.  So, if it runs with HRD 5.0 and not HRD 6.0, using the same
computer, same operating system, same cable, same radio, I strongly suspect
the issue is within HRD 6.0.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10163
  

On 11/6/2015 7:44 AM, John Weber wrote:
> When I connect the radio thru the KUSB port to the computer and load 
> the HRD program
>
> I get a screen indicating that the program can not find the radio.


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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.

[ae4pb]

Is the connection intermittent at the contact point or at the crimp?
If your crimps fail over time there's an issue with the crimp or there's
extreme physical stress that's causing the crimp to fail.

Part of my background is Military Avionics. Our connections are constantly
subject to vibration, changing temperature, and changing humidity. I've
never seen a proper crimp fail. I've replaced crimps after the pins were
broken from improper mating or such. In the environment I came from it was
common to re-work soldered connectors due to conductor breakage over time
(consider the platform I flew on was from the 1960s). 

Validate the connectors are rated for the wire gauge/type please. 



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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
lmarion
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:05 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.


I have the proper tools.
Over time the joints have become intermittent.

The joints I properly crimped and soldered have never become intermittent.
I guess the molecular bond with solder is greater  ; )

Leroy

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harmon
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:30 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.

thanks Mike,   good info !

73
Bob
K6UJ





On 11/5/15 7:18 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
> While many people recommend soldering crimped connectors, such as 
> Anderson Power Poles, it is not a very good idea.  The reason(s) it is 
> neither required, nor desired, is partially as follows:
>
> 1. A PROPERLY crimped connection creates a molecular bond between the 
> conductor and the connector that is more conductive than soldering.
> 2. The soldering process causes corrosion because even rosin core 
> solder is slightly acidic.
> 3. The solder that flows into or onto the conductor (wire) causes it 
> to stiffen and increases the probability that vibration or movement 
> will cause the wire to break at that point.
> 4. The annealing of the copper wire is altered which also increases 
> the possibility of wire breakage due to vibration or movement.
>
> It is absolutely necessary that the proper tool be used for the 
> connection being crimped.  If you are going to use a crimped 
> connection it is imperative that you have a tool that matches the 
> connector.  If you do not have the proper tool then DO NOT use crimped
connections.
>
> Michael Blake
> k9...@outlook.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.

[ae4pb]

I want to throw in the presence of possibly counterfeit connectors as well. If 
not counterfeit then at least lower quality. I fly RC and use many PP 
connections for batteries and motor controllers. In the past I purchased a pack 
of PP connectors from ebay thinking I got a deal. They looked ok but didn't 
crimp or hold up the same. I ended up dumping them and ordering replacements 
from powerwerx. 
Just sharing my experience.

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael 
Blake
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 1:06 PM
To: d...@nk7z.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.

Dave, that is really the key question and very difficult to answer.  For 
starters the crimper should have compound leverage and a ratchet that prevents 
you from releasing pressure before the crimp is complete.  In addition to that 
the crimper should have removable dies so that it can be used for multiple 
crimp connectors.

The real catcher is that the die used should be the correct die for the crimp 
connector itself.  The connector itself should also match the wire size used.

Sorry that was not a complete answer :)  If the crimper does not have compound 
leverage handles and replaceable dies I would avoid it unless it was purchased 
for one specific use.

Michael Blake
K9JRI


> On Nov 5, 2015, at 12:51 PM, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> Could someone recommend a good crimper please?  This has been a most 
> interesting discussion.
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> 
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2015-11-05 at 12:41 -0500, Michael Blake wrote:
>> leroy, thanks for your comments.  I don’t know what to say other than your 
>> experiences are vastly different from my personal experiences as well as the 
>> experiences of both the telephone industry  (Bell System and Verizon) and 
>> the automotive industry.
>> 
>> While not intending to be mean spirited the fact that you have experienced 
>> this probably means that the failed connections were not really properly 
>> crimped.
>> 
>> Michael Blake
>> K9JRI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:05 AM, lmarion <lmar...@mt.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have the proper tools.
>>> Over time the joints have become intermittent.
>>> 
>>> The joints I properly crimped and soldered have never become intermittent.
>>> I guess the molecular bond with solder is greater  ; )
>>> 
>>> Leroy
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Robert Harmon
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:30 AM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.
>>> 
>>> thanks Mike,   good info !
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/5/15 7:18 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
>>>> While many people recommend soldering crimped connectors, such as Anderson 
>>>> Power Poles, it is not a very good idea.  The reason(s) it is neither 
>>>> required, nor desired, is partially as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. A PROPERLY crimped connection creates a molecular bond between the 
>>>> conductor and the connector that is more conductive than soldering.
>>>> 2. The soldering process causes corrosion because even rosin core solder 
>>>> is slightly acidic.
>>>> 3. The solder that flows into or onto the conductor (wire) causes it to 
>>>> stiffen and increases the probability that vibration or movement will 
>>>> cause the wire to break at that point.
>>>> 4. The annealing of the copper wire is altered which also increases the 
>>>> possibility of wire breakage due to vibration or movement.
>>>> 
>>>> It is absolutely necessary that the proper tool be used for the connection 
>>>> being crimped.  If you are going to use a crimped connection it is 
>>>> imperative that you have a tool that matches the connector.  If you do not 
>>>> have the proper tool then DO NOT use crimped connections.
>

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

[ae4pb]

Ok, ty..
 The only way I know of currently to save the settings out is to use HRD.
I'm actually writing a program in my spare time to see if I can write a
utility to read/write configs specifically for this purpose. 
Jer

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-Original Message-
From: Mark E. Musick [mailto:markmus...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 1:32 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Udo Langenohl - DK5YA';
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

Jerry and Udo,
You can't save the configuration file from one K3 and then load it into
another K3. The configuration file contains the serial number and
calibration information specific to the K3 you're saving the configuration
file for.
I think you can print out the configuration files for each K3 and compare
them. Then change only the parameters that are not K3 specific.
There was an earlier thread that addressed a possible way to remove the
specific K3 information from the configuration file and only load the non K3
specific parameters.
I don't remember the details or even if it was determined that it was
possible. You will have to search the archives.
Hope you find the solution.

73,

Mark, WB9CIF
K3-3505 and K3-7436


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 5:09 PM
To: 'Udo Langenohl - DK5YA' <dk...@dk5ya.de>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

Use the K3 utility to save the config from the "Good" K3, then use the same
utility to save the config from the "suspect" K3. Finally use the K3 Utility
to restore the config from the "good" K3 into the "suspect" K3 and retest. 

If that doesn't fix the issue then I'd start double checking the connections
per the assembly manual.


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Udo
Langenohl - DK5YA
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 10:19 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

Gents,

in spring I made an upgrade to my K3 (#59xx) with the internal ATU KAT3A.
After this I guessed that there is a noise drop on all bands from
160 up to 10, but was not 100% sure. The strange thing: neighbor stations
with similar setup always gave much better reports than me, at least 10 dB
better. I was struggling a lot with my antennas, checked coax every now and
than etc. but everything was o.k. At that time my main RX became suspicious.

Last week I bought a K3/10W (#39++) from a local ham as a backup here in my
shack. Comparing both rigs shows a huge difference in sensitivity. 
Very weak signals, almost in the noise on 10 Meters are clearly audible in
the freshly bought K3 while there's almost nil on my old one. So i fired up
my HP8664A signal generator today and found my old K3 to be at least 9dB
worst compared to new one. This is for the main RX in my old
K3 while the second RX iny my old K3 is almost similar to the new K3 when
fed through the AUX input (not through ANT 1!!).

So whats going on here? Something broken in my old K3 when I made the
upgrade with KAT3A? Wrong wired? I have no idea, perhaps you got one?

Udo, DK5YA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

[ae4pb]

Use the K3 utility to save the config from the "Good" K3, then use the same
utility to save the config from the "suspect" K3. Finally use the K3 Utility
to restore the config from the "good" K3 into the "suspect" K3 and retest. 

If that doesn't fix the issue then I'd start double checking the connections
per the assembly manual.


Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Udo
Langenohl - DK5YA
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 10:19 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

Gents,

in spring I made an upgrade to my K3 (#59xx) with the internal ATU KAT3A.
After this I guessed that there is a noise drop on all bands from
160 up to 10, but was not 100% sure. The strange thing: neighbor stations
with similar setup always gave much better reports than me, at least 10 dB
better. I was struggling a lot with my antennas, checked coax every now and
than etc. but everything was o.k. At that time my main RX became suspicious.

Last week I bought a K3/10W (#39++) from a local ham as a backup here in my
shack. Comparing both rigs shows a huge difference in sensitivity. 
Very weak signals, almost in the noise on 10 Meters are clearly audible in
the freshly bought K3 while there's almost nil on my old one. So i fired up
my HP8664A signal generator today and found my old K3 to be at least 9dB
worst compared to new one. This is for the main RX in my old
K3 while the second RX iny my old K3 is almost similar to the new K3 when
fed through the AUX input (not through ANT 1!!).

So whats going on here? Something broken in my old K3 when I made the
upgrade with KAT3A? Wrong wired? I have no idea, perhaps you got one?

Udo, DK5YA
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Re: [Elecraft] IMD and supply voltage

[ae4pb]

Does that imply we should all adjust our power supplies to output +15VDC?
Will that damage my 2M Rig?
I recently purchased the powerwerx SS-30DV from Elecraft when I purchased my
K3S kit.

Thanks 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

[ae4pb]

Jim, 
Do you have Fred Cady's book on the K3? What audio and noise reduction
issues are you experiencing ? I'm a new owner and a voracious reader and
find learning to use the radio for noise reduction is pretty daunting,
however, I also haven't had any noise issues that I couldn't adjust out to
isolate the desired signal.
I use the RF gain, pre-amp, roofing filtering, DSP filtering, NR settings,
AGC settings, NB and NB settings. In my mind the key is to understand what
each of these does, how they interact, general parameters of the received
signals in the bandpass (pre roofing filters), and being able to actually
hear the desired signal at to start. 

Just curious because my prior radio did a decent job but nothing even close
to what my K3S does. 
I have the 400Hz and 2.8KHz 8 pole roofing filters installed and use a
dipole for RX.


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:13 PM
To: 'Al Lorona'; 'Charlie T, K3ICH'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

Al,

The thread will not go away until something is done to address the issue.

Elecraft makes the best "system" in the market place, however, the audio and
noise reduction implantation leaves a lot to be desired.

Jim
W6AIM


.


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al
Lorona
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:37 PM
To: Charlie T, K3ICH; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S In-Depth Review Coming Soon?

Oh no... Oh no, not the "bad K3 audio" thread again?!


I'm pretty sure that, five years from now, people will still be asking, "Was
the phase noise of the new synthesizers reviewed in QST ever fixed so that
it's better than the old synthesizer at higher offsets?"


Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Split Rx Ant2/Tx Ant1

[ae4pb]

Sounds good, I guess I'll re-wire it internally as necessary.

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:08 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Split Rx Ant2/Tx Ant1

Jer,

It all depends on how you have your K3S physically configured.

If you do not have the subRX installed, that is not possible - although you
can connect whatever antenna you now have on ANT2 to the RX ANT input and
select the RX antenna.

If you do have the sub-receiver, then you can use the ANT2 for receive on
the subRX by selecting the AUX input.  Take a look at the antenna routing
Figure 4 on page 45 of the K3S manual.  As indicated, the subRX AUX antenna
input can be connected to either the KAT3 (solid line) or to the BNC AUX RF
jack (dotted line). Which one is actually connected to your subRX AUX input
is a decision that is made at the time you built the K3S and added the KRX3.
Factory built K3S are normally connected to the BNC jack, but you can add
the cable to connect it to the KAT3.

If you connected the AUX input on the sub to the TMP jack on the KAT3, then
when you select the AUX antenna, the sub will be connected to the
non-transmit antenna.  In other words, if the main is using ANT1, the sub
will listen to ANT2.  If you switch the main to ANT2, the sub will listen to
ANT1.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 10/25/2015 11:51 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
>   
>
> Hi,
>
>I've read the owners manual and Fred Cady's K3 manual. Playing with the
> rig and still can't figure this out.
>
> Desired end result:
>
> When working split I want to receive on Ant2 and transmit on Ant1. I have
> the ATU option installed.
>
>   
>


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[Elecraft] K3S Split Rx Ant2/Tx Ant1

[ae4pb]

 

Hi, 

  I've read the owners manual and Fred Cady's K3 manual. Playing with the
rig and still can't figure this out. 

Desired end result:

When working split I want to receive on Ant2 and transmit on Ant1. I have
the ATU option installed.

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

Jerry Moore

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

[ae4pb]

I've not gotten into it yet. My speaker has never been dropped but I'll check.

-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:24 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Randy Moore'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

That was my experience too, with an older K2 that uses the same speaker. The 
magnet is heavy enough to bend the speaker frame if it's handled too roughly. I 
dropped the top cover with speaker mounted onto a wooden floor. 

I confirmed the cause by gently moving the paper speaker cone with my fingers. 
If the frame is warped you can feel the voice coil rubbing on the magnet. I was 
able to repair the speaker by putting a blade screwdriver between the frame 
members and the magnet and twisting it slightly to move the magnet relative to 
the frame. It involved a bit of trial and error to determine which way the 
magnet needs to be moved so the voice coil stops rubbing but it's not 
difficult. That was about 8 years ago. The speaker has been fine ever since. 

That was without a shield on the speaker magnet but if you reach in to the 
magnet (just visible inside the shield) it should work with the shield in place.

73, Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of 
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:13 AM
To: 'Ron D'Eau Claire'; 'Randy Moore'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

Yes, I found something about if the speaker frame gets warped it can affect the 
speaker cone. Maybe I over-tightened the speaker and have it warped. I'll take 
the cover off, remove the speaker and see what it sounds like without being 
installed. If that 'fixes" the issue then I'll investigate further. It's a 
minor thing but something I want to resolve.

Jerry Moore
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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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Patriotic.


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau 
Claire
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:43 PM
To: 'Randy Moore'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine Are all the top screws in 
place, including the chassis stiffener bar that is mounted on the KPA3 shield 
and attaches to the top with three screws?
When assembled, there are no "vertical metal pieces that contact the top" that 
are not secured by screws. 
73, Ron AC7AC




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

[ae4pb]

Will do, I usually operate with headphones and just crank the RF gain down
as needed. That + NR + APF + width really rocks signals down to nearly
nothing unless they are really weak. Then it's a matter of playing with the
settings. I'm finding a need to play with the AGC on some signals where with
others it needs to be engaged more. I'm enjoying the process of learning to
really use it. 

Jerry Moore
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Patriotic.


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
K2MK
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

Hi Jerry,

You should also try with APF off. APF on the K3 is useful for pulling out
weak signals. I don't see the benefit for general listening. 

Just as a further clarification. Generally, if your bandwidth is dialed in
as 500Hz then your 400Hz filter has been switched out and your current
roofing filter is the next wider one. I say generally because it is possible
to set wider cutoff points for the roofing filters.

73,
Mike K2MK


ae4pb wrote
> I normally wear a headset but when working I like to listen to code to 
> help build my proficiency and am hearing a lot of 
> distortion/buzz/whine. I typically am on 40M running about 500Hz wide 
> (my filter is the 8 pole 400Hz), NR is ON, APF is ON. I've tried 
> changing the tone from 700Hz to down around 400Hz and the issue just 
> gets worse.
> 
> The speaker is tight against the mesh/top cover so I'm not sure why 
> the sound is so buzzy. I don't notice it on SSB. I end up turning the 
> volume WAY DOWN which makes it better but still some buzz in there. I 
> plan to wire up some old surround sound speakers up for stereo and try 
> that but am trying to figure out what I did wrong in the meantime.
> 
> Thanks in advance. 





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Re: [Elecraft] Review of Fred Cady's new K3S manual

[ae4pb]

The new version or edition 2 for the K3?

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Berger
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:38 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Review of Fred Cady's new K3S manual

I recently purchased Fred's manual obtained by download. Not sure if hard
copy is available yet.

Short version - probably the most value I've ever obtained from $25. There
is no way I would ever be able to fully utilize the myriad of advantages
this rig offers had I simply used the Elecraft op manual.

Just the section on AGC settings in itself is enlightening. There is far
more intricacies than meets the eye or in this case, the ears. Hopefully
others with more time to spare who have also bought it can expand on the
wealth of additional info it provides.
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Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

[ae4pb]

Because MCU does the heavy lifting right now and integrates with a ton of
other features in the rig (per the manual). It would likely be much simpler
to modify the keyer code, add variables, add settings, add the settings to
mapped memory, add the memory locations to the menu and utility. 

I have no actual clue how they do things but based on my knowledge and
experience that's what makes sense to me. It's not a trivial change which is
why I was saying to be specific. I don't believe they can straight out copy
someone else's mode, however, they can likely mimic the behavior *shrug*.
It's probably a good time for this one to close.. 

Jerry Moore
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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
Alexander
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?
Maybe Wayne and Eric should talk to K1EL about licensing (or whatever it is
one has to do) so they can use his famous $8.00 keyer chip in their
transceivers.  K1EL would make a little money and Elecraft would set
themselves even further ahead of the pack by providing just about any keyer
you can imagine right out of the box!
73,
Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


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Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

[ae4pb]

I asked for specifics so we can suggest/ask Elecraft for them and all I've
seen so far is generalities referring to emulation modes.
Why so vague? Why don't you guys just specifically ask for what you want?

You guys are coming across as smug and arrogant. I'm sure that's not your
intent.
Ask specifically for what you want or ask Eric to close the thread.


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[Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

[ae4pb]

I normally wear a headset but when working I like to listen to code to help
build my proficiency and am hearing a lot of distortion/buzz/whine. I
typically am on 40M running about 500Hz wide (my filter is the 8 pole
400Hz), NR is ON, APF is ON. I've tried changing the tone from 700Hz to down
around 400Hz and the issue just gets worse. 

The speaker is tight against the mesh/top cover so I'm not sure why the
sound is so buzzy. I don't notice it on SSB. I end up turning the volume WAY
DOWN which makes it better but still some buzz in there. I plan to wire up
some old surround sound speakers up for stereo and try that but am trying to
figure out what I did wrong in the meantime. 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB

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Patriotic.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

[ae4pb]

Outstanding!! I’ll try that. I don’t listen to my rig often over the speaker as 
I have some different hearing losses in each ear.



Jerry,

I have this buzzing in my K3, and have heard it in some (not all) of the K3s I 
have built for friends. I have found that most of it comes from vibration 
between the case top and the vertical metal pieces that contact the top. If 
that's what you're hearing, you can minimize it by putting some vinyl tape over 
the tops of the metal pieces.  In each case I've seen,  the buzzing is worst 
around 400 Hz, near my favored CW sidetone frequency!

73,

Randy, KS4L



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Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

[ae4pb]

Ian, 
   Forgive me if these are stupid questions;
What are you SPECIFICALLY referring to? 
So far the thread has meandered between different manufacturer
implementations using the same names... i.e. "Mode A" and "Mode B". 
I'm not aware of any standards for modes on keyers or even anything else for
that matter. Just guidelines and what's been usually done. 

If we want more features in Elecraft gear it's probably a trivial thing to
just ask.

What CW features specifically are NEEDED but lacking? 

Jerry Moore
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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian
White
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:26 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

This discussion emphasizes the oft-repeated point that the built-in keyer
firmware (shared by the K3, K3S and KX3) is really rather basic, lacking
many CW features that are present in a $6 Winkeyer chip for example. 
And before someone says "So get a Winkeyer already!" please remember these
three points:
1. Portability and excellent CW operation have always been prime feature of
the Elecraft range... but both of those claims falter if significant numbers
of owners are forced to use external accessories. 
2. Elecraft transceivers are uniquely dependent on the built-in keyer, which
MUST be used when sending RTTY and PSK31 from the paddle.
3. We're all "wired" differently as regards high-speed fine motor skills
- meaning that each one of us is somewhere along a very broad spectrum.
Nobody is qualified to judge whether the built-in keyers are adequate
through their own experience alone.

73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine

[ae4pb]

Yes, I found something about if the speaker frame gets warped it can affect the 
speaker cone. Maybe I over-tightened the speaker and have it warped. I'll take 
the cover off, remove the speaker and see what it sounds like without being 
installed. If that 'fixes" the issue then I'll investigate further. It's a 
minor thing but something I want to resolve.

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and 
Patriotic.


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau 
Claire
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:43 PM
To: 'Randy Moore'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S speaker vibration/whine
Are all the top screws in place, including the chassis stiffener bar that is 
mounted on the KPA3 shield and attaches to the top with three screws?
When assembled, there are no "vertical metal pieces that contact the top" that 
are not secured by screws. 
73, Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

[ae4pb]

If I understand what you are saying.
The K3S doesn't require the USB Signal link because it has it build in. The
USB on the back of the K3s supports the audio and computer control. The audo
will show up in audio recording and playback devices, while the CAT control
will show up as a local serial comm port. 

As far as I know the K3 utility from Elecraft supports the datamodes.
Depending on your logging/cluster control software radio integration your
setup may require a comm port bridge like LP-Bridge or such.

Really need to know exactly what you have, what you're running
(applications, windows/mac/linux..etc..), how it's connected, and what the
end result is expected to be.



Jerry Moore
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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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Patriotic.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
efortner
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] new to list with new K3s

Hi,  I have now finished the kits and have the K3s, KPA 500, P3 and KAT 500
antenna tuner. Have all up and running and working fine.  

After getting all this hooked up I find myself without a port for computer
control of the K3s with my logging and cluster control.

I don't use HRD. What is the simplest route to get my USB Signal link and
logging programs linked to the radio with my computer?

 

Regards, Earl  K4KAY

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Re: [Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3

[ae4pb]

LP-Bridge is not stable on windows 10 used with the newest ham radio deluxe.
It's been reported to be an HRD issue but I've had LPB crash on it's own
without anything else running on windows 10.
It likely needs an update. 

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry
Phipps
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:08 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3

Only one program can connect directly to a serial device like the K3. 
You need to use a port sharing app like LP-Bridge or several others out
there to allow this to happen. LP-Bridge in this case connects to the K3,
and lets you create "virtual" ports for the SDR program, loggers, etc. That
way, each program thinks it's talking directly to the K3, but in fact the
virtual port traffic is routed and sequenced within the app to get access to
the K3 as needed.

Here's a link to my LP-Bridge web page...
http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB.html

Larry N8LP



On 10/15/2015 6:10 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 06:10:13 -0400
> From: "David Smith"<dlsm...@harlanonline.net> 
> To:<elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3 
> Message-ID:<01d10731$aeae5e70$0c0b1b50$@harlanonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I have an additional question in addition to Jorge.  I recently 
> installed my
> LPAN2 (I do not have a P3).
>
> My question is that can I run my LPAN2 at the same time I run N1MM+.   I
> tried and got a port conflict the with K3.  Also, I run SO2R with 2 
> K3s and never made it that far to check additional port conflicts as I 
> didn't make it past the first port conflict.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> David, ND4Y

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files from K3 Utility

[ae4pb]

I have the second edition of the book and am not finding the HRD method. Can
you please direct me to a page number?
Jer

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry
Schieler
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files from K3
Utility

I have a recent configuration file from my former K3 (#474) saved in my K3
Utility.  I was hoping to print out that file and use it as a guide to
setting up my new K3S, knowing better than to simply load (restore) the old
K3 configuration file into the new K3S radio.  Fred, KE7X, points out in his
fine book that, at the time of the book's first printing, no means were
available in K3 Utility to print out the configuration files.  Fred was kind
enough to note in the book that Ham Radio Deluxe has a way of converting the
configuration file to a text file.  I used HRD to do exactly that.  It was
quick and easy, but I could not find a way to save the text file or to print
it out.  I also tried a print screen, which failed.
 
I was wondering if, since Fred's comment was published, someone else
realized a need for this and has come up with a way to copy old
configuration files for future reference.  Has anyone come up with a way to
copy a K3 Utility Configuration file to text that I can print out?  Ideally,
I would like to see the K3 Utility program allow me to save/print ALL the
radio's current menu settings for comparison to the published defaults.
 
 
73, 
 
Terry  W0FM
St. Louis
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Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

[ae4pb]

Oops.. I just thought it was dead because all of the videos are dead links
and the youtube channel appears to have been deleted.


I currently own the Ham Radio Deluxe suite. I was looking at using the
Win4k3 to replace the radio control part and use the rest of HRD. I'm
wondering if it would be best to customize HRD or go with Win4k3? I'm still
researching things. At this point I'm looking to modify the HRD radio
control interface (it's highly modifiable) but it's really a daunting task.
The interface  is ok but too busy. I was hoping to hear from other hams how
they use/modify HRD..etc.. 

I don't want to get buried too far in projects that keep me off the air but
don't mind the occasional distraction.

At the end of it all I may end up using Win4k3 if I am not able to get HRD
to do what I want. I'm not sure how to properly leverage HRD as I seem to
operate primarily in the logging software which includes the DX cluster. I
see the Radio control screen as mainly a place to setup and store
configurations per band/mode/situation(DX/contest..etc) than something to
run full time. Maybe I'm missing something ?

One thing I'm considering is to remote my rig to my shop. Then I could have
a tower in the back yard without long feedlines (that contribute to signal
loss). Slowly looking at that. The Raspberry Pi hardware looks perfect as
the bridge platform.



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-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:53 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Tom'; 'Barry LaZar'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

Jer,

Win4K3suite is alive and well, and unless something has happened in the last
few days, Tom va2fsq is actively supporting it.
In fact, that is the same Tom who answered about using comOcom earlier this
morning.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/13/2015 10:23 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> I'm thinking Win4k3Suite isn't supported anymore. All of the video 
> links on their site are dead.
>
> Is anyone using Ham Radio Deluxe and is willing to share any 
> customizations ? I'm about to delve into that and don't want to 
> re-invent the wheel if someone has already done a bunch of it.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jerry Moore
> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
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> and Patriotic.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:01 AM
> To: Barry LaZar
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge
>
> Hi Barry,
> No, com0com is a software null modem cable used to connect two pieces 
> of software via a virtual port pair. It has no logic for operating a 
> k3. The reason it works for you is that you are using Win4k3Suite, 
> which has a built in router that performs k3 command routing. win4k3 
> has functionality that replaces lpbridge, and it uses com0com only as a
connector.
> 73 Tom
>
> Sent from BlueMail
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

[ae4pb]

I'm thinking Win4k3Suite isn't supported anymore. All of the video links on
their site are dead. 

Is anyone using Ham Radio Deluxe and is willing to share any customizations
? I'm about to delve into that and don't want to re-invent the wheel if
someone has already done a bunch of it. 
Thanks in advance.


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:01 AM
To: Barry LaZar
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

Hi Barry,
No, com0com is a software null modem cable used to connect two pieces of
software via a virtual port pair. It has no logic for operating a k3. The
reason it works for you is that you are using Win4k3Suite, which has a built
in router that performs k3 command routing. win4k3 has functionality that
replaces lpbridge, and it uses com0com only as a connector.
73 Tom

Sent from BlueMail



On Oct 13, 2015, 1:39 AM, at 1:39 AM, Barry LaZar <k3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Don,
>  If all that is required  is a port replicator, I'd suggest com0com.  
>It works quite well over Windows 10  with HRD and all the other 
>software that I use. It's free from Source Forge and a few other 
>sources.
>
>73,
>Barry
>K3NDM
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Don Wilhelm" <w3...@embarqmail.com>
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Sent: 10/12/2015 11:38:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge
>
>>I think LP-Bridge will work just fine with most ham applications, but 
>>currently, it will not work with HRD which uses Unicode.
>>Larry is working to allow Unicode with LP-Bridge, but it is not there 
>>yet.
>>
>>As I understand it, this is not really a Windows 10 issue, it is an
>HRD
>>issue.  If you use HRD version 5, you will not encounter a problem.
>>
>>73,
>>Don W3FPR
>>
>>On 10/12/2015 11:07 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
>>>But it allows my logging program(s) to read the K3 and K3S frequency 
>>>and my SDR-IQ to track the K3s. And it's free.
>>>
>>>Why should I complain?
>>>
>>>  On 10/12/2015 10:33 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
>>>>So you're saying that LP-Bridge isn't RFC compliant.. ok.. J
>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files from K3 Utility

[ae4pb]

If all menus and settings are available it should be possible to get all
settings. When I get time I may look at it and see if I can come up with a
simple enough solution. Anecdotally it should just be a matter of scrolling
through all menu items, poll for the setting of the menu item, record same,
and move on. I'm sure there's a bit more to it such as mapping specific menu
items/sub items and using the correct method for those settings I could
be wrong but in my head it seems trivial to do it but a bulk of effort for
the detail if that makes sense.. stated differently; it's not hard, just a
lot of work to setup once. 

Let me think on it. 


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
Bates
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:22 PM
To: Mike Harris
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files
from K3 Utility

A further thought is that as things in the radios, amps, tuners age (caps,
crystals) it could be useful to compare the values saved over the years to
avoid impending (sudden) failure.  Not knocking Elecraft, but stuff happens.


73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Mike Harris <mike.har...@horizon.co.fk>
wrote:
> 
> I just printed the Menu and Config pages of the current manual and went
through my K3 settings manually noting them against each item.  Didn't take
long but it would be very convenient to be able to just capture them from
the saved config. Years ago there was a little app which scrolled through
the K2 menus and captured all the current settings ready for printing.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
> 
>> On 13/10/2015 14:56, Bill wrote:
>> I gave up on this a long time ago. And, I thought it should have been 
>> very simple - hahaha.
>> 
>> I keep a spiral notebook (1" thick 8"x11") for notes and commentary 
>> regarding settings and changes made to my K-Line system. Those notes 
>> have saved my bacon several times.
>> 
>> I do all my configuration changes by hand from the front panel. I 
>> decided to do that when I caught K3EZ making unwanted changes - 
>> changes I had not made.
>> 
>> It would be nice if there was a replacement for K3EZ. I am sure it 
>> would sell well - if it worked properly.
>> 
>> Bill W2BLC K3-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] Reflector Help

[ae4pb]

I use K-9

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark
K9BOO via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Reflector Help

Hello!

 

Does anyone else use Android mail to open email digests from this Elecraft
reflector on qth.net?  Perhaps you have a suggestion on how I can read the
digest emails?

 

I get an email digest with attachments for each email.  The attachments have
a ".msg" extension which Android doesn't know how to handle.  In contract,
at my desk, the computer has outlook and can open these attachments and
display the emails with no problem.

 

I am hoping I won't have to log into my email provider just to use their
webmail interface.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark K9BOO

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Reflector Help

[ae4pb]

HAHAHAHA!! J

Open the google playstore and enter k-9 mail

..that's what I use.

 

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Patriotic.

 

From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w...@socal.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:26 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reflector Help

 

Hmm .. 4-legged variety or ??

Phil W7OX

On 10/12/15 4:07 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:

I use K-9
 
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark
K9BOO via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Reflector Help
 
Hello!
 
 
 
Does anyone else use Android mail to open email digests from this Elecraft
reflector on qth.net?  Perhaps you have a suggestion on how I can read the
digest emails?
 
 
 
I get an email digest with attachments for each email.  The attachments have
a ".msg" extension which Android doesn't know how to handle.  In contract,
at my desk, the computer has outlook and can open these attachments and
display the emails with no problem.
 
 
 
I am hoping I won't have to log into my email provider just to use their
webmail interface.
 
 
 
Thanks!
 
 
 
Mark K9BOO

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

[ae4pb]

So you're saying that LP-Bridge isn't RFC compliant.. ok.. J

 

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Patriotic.

 

From: Tom [mailto:tom...@videotron.ca] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:52 PM
To: Jerry Moore
Cc: Robin Moseley; 'Larry Phipps'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

 

Hi
I think a more accurate description of what is missing in lpbridge is the
inability to use the DS and IC commands on the k3,kx3 and k3s.
These commands require an 8 bit character set, hence Unicode.
The lack of support for the ic and ds commands prevents decoding of k3
status for many functions. In addition, almost all menu items can't be
decoded.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

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On Oct 12, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Jerry Moore <je...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:

+1 on HRD support in LP-Bridge

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robin
Moseley
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:15 PM
To: Larry Phipps; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 10 and LP-Bridge

Hi Larry,

Please let me know when Unicode is supported as I get asked quite often by
K3 users that use HRD and were using LP-Bridge to run PTT lines with WSJT

Robin G1MHU

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[Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

[ae4pb]

I'm trying to set the AGC SLP in a macro. Currently using the K3 utility to
test.

I have Tech MD On

 

Evoking the following line does NOT change the value for AGC SLP

MN017;MP001;SWT14;

 

I've used variations and cannot get the macro to change the setting. 

When I evoke a similar command for AGC TH it works

MN017;MP008;SWT14;

 

 

After evoking MN017;MP001;SWT14;

Issuing the commands MP; returns ?; which per the book indicates the radio
is busy.

 

I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

[ae4pb]

And just a heads up. Elecraft support considers macros to be "programming".
As a software support engineer I can tell you that statement makes
professional programmers drink to excess.

If you want/need macro support we're asked to email k3supp...@elecraft.com
so the request can be forwarded to their programmer and/or the reflector.


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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:54 PM
To: k3supp...@elecraft.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

I'm trying to set the AGC SLP in a macro. Currently using the K3 utility to
test.

I have Tech MD On

 

Evoking the following line does NOT change the value for AGC SLP

MN017;MP001;SWT14;

 

I've used variations and cannot get the macro to change the setting. 

When I evoke a similar command for AGC TH it works

MN017;MP008;SWT14;

 

 

After evoking MN017;MP001;SWT14;

Issuing the commands MP; returns ?; which per the book indicates the radio
is busy.

 

I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

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Patriotic.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

[ae4pb]

Thanks Eric,
  It just hit me wrong. I'm a Systems Analyst ($4 title for a high level
software support engineer), amateur programmer (.net C#, C), and scripter
(MS DOS, DR DOS, Powershell, ASP, VB, Java).
My expectation wasn't for support to be a subject matter expert on macros. I
just had a basic question because I expect the issue is my syntax. 
No worries. I have a working macro that's clumsy and not very efficient. I
found the DN command for that attribute works. I'd much prefer a direct
entry value even if it had to be a hex value 0-F instead of a string of
'DN;'.

Playing with the AGC seems to have fixed the concerns I have with the
receiver sensitivity. At the defaults the rig works very well but was acting
hard of hearing. What I've found is based on the antenna and QTH receive
conditions there are settings on the AGC with the DSP engaged that pull the
signals out VERY WELL. 

As expected the issues I'm experiencing are just learning curve type
opportunities. I'm glad I purchased the K3 book and have the K3S book on
pre-order. It's definitely worth having.

Jer

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric
Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:35 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; k3supp...@elecraft.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

Hi Jerry,

I talked to Howard about this and he wasn't trying to say it was
'programming' 
in the usual software context.  :-) Many of our customers refer to Macro's
as 'programming' the radio, and he was just talking in that context :-)

His request for an email to K3support (which goes immediately to him and
several other support engineers) is normal since he isn't an expert in all
K3 macros and sending to k3support helps us understand more exactly what you
were trying to do, and it gets to all of our support staff -immediately- so
the one most qualified to help can respond to you (or get back to Howard to
help him respond).

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/12/2015 11:39 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> And just a heads up. Elecraft support considers macros to be
"programming".
> As a software support engineer I can tell you that statement makes
> professional programmers drink to excess.
>
> If you want/need macro support we're asked to email k3supp...@elecraft.com
> so the request can be forwarded to their programmer and/or the reflector.
>
>
> Jerry Moore
> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
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> Patriotic.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> ae...@carolinaheli.com
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:54 PM
> To: k3supp...@elecraft.com
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP
>
> I'm trying to set the AGC SLP in a macro. Currently using the K3 utility
to
> test.
>
> I have Tech MD On
>
>   
>
> Evoking the following line does NOT change the value for AGC SLP
>
> MN017;MP001;SWT14;
>
>   
>
> I've used variations and cannot get the macro to change the setting.
>
> When I evoke a similar command for AGC TH it works
>
> MN017;MP008;SWT14;
>
>   
>
>   
>
> After evoking MN017;MP001;SWT14;
>
> Issuing the commands MP; returns ?; which per the book indicates the radio
> is busy.
>
>   
>
> I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong.
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Jerry Moore
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

[ae4pb]

Thanks Wayne, I don't expect to change the settings often, just once during
a contest, and once outside of contesting. Knowing me I'll likely play with
the settings a lot to better understand what they are doing. I'm hearing A
LOT more now that I've started adjusting.
Jer

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:47 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com; Elecraft Reflector; Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP

Jerry,

Some K3S/K3 menu entries don't yet support the MP command (remote parameter
GET/SET). See Table 5 of the Programmer's Reference.

Since you asked, I'll add MP command support for the AGC SLP menu entry in
the next firmware release.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


>> 

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>> ae...@carolinaheli.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:54 PM
>> To: k3supp...@elecraft.com
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Macro issue with AGC SLP
>> 
>> I'm trying to set the AGC SLP in a macro. Currently using the K3 
>> utility to test.
>> 
>> I have Tech MD On
>> 
>>  
>> Evoking the following line does NOT change the value for AGC SLP
>> 
>> MN017;MP001;SWT14;



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[Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

[ae4pb]

 

I'm not sure if my antenna/coax/radio is deaf because I can hear some
signals. Is there a way to quantify and verify that at least the radio is
receiving as designed ? The K3S, antenna, and coax are all new. 

Without a signal generator or such I'm not sure how this can be
accomplished. I was only able to barely hear one or two people on the SSB
net and was not able to check in.  

I'm in the Charlotte NC area for reference. My dipole is at 35' broadside to
45 degrees. Due to the height I'd expect high angle radiation which should
help/work for NVIS and longer type contacts. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

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[Elecraft] K3S / P3 thoughts and notes.

[ae4pb]

I don't have the P3 yet and really didn't understand what people were saying
about how helps operations. Just to try and see if I really wanted it I
purchased a $20 USB SDR and did the hardware mod for direct sampling. Using
HDSDR with it allows me to have a poor version of the P3 (lots of
noise/birds due to the poor shielding and design of the SDR). I have to say
that I can now see the benefits of having a visual display of the bandpass.
It's more like shooting fish in a barrel because you can see the signals and
click on them to immediately tune. One note with the SDR method is I can
often hear signals but not see them. I'm confident the P3 can probably see
everything you can hear (someone else will have to comment). 

 

Anyway, my post is only to suggest that anyone who isn't sure on getting the
P3 strongly consider it and/or play around with proof of concept type
technologies to see if you like it. 

 

Based on my experiments I'm sold on the concept and now just need to save up
the cash for the hardware. 

 

Antennas are next on my list so the P3 gets bumped down a bit for now. 

 

73 ..

 

 

Jerry Moore

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[ae4pb]

Trying to check in but only occasionally hear someone that sounds like net
control but not hearing any invites to check in

Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian -
Ham
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:28 AM
To: 'ELECRAFT'
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

All,

 

The Elecraft sideband net will meet today, October 11, at 1800 UTC, on
14.3035 +/-. I will be net control from my QTH in the northern Atlanta
suburbs. Hopefully band conditions will play nicely for us today.

 

See everyone there.

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com <mailto:km4ik@gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

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2.5 nothing band noise
5 nothing just band noise
10 signal S6.5 with lots of band noise but readable
15 S6.5~S7 readable and clear with band noise
20 S8.5 very strong with almost no noise
25 S9 solid tone of some kind, no other signal or sound evident.

I don't have the all band receive module if that matters..

I'm thinking everything is working and I just need better antennas.. ?
Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:35 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'ELECRAFT'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

I would start with your local AM Broadcast stations like WBT on 1100 KHz.  I
would then check out WWV on 5.0MHz, 10MHz, 15MHz, 20MHz as well as CHU in
Canada on 3.33MHz, 7.850MHz and 14.67MHz.  You might want to add these into
memory for easy recall.

Be mindful that time of day/current propagation/solar conditions will be in
play as well.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:20 PM
To: 'ELECRAFT'
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

 

I'm not sure if my antenna/coax/radio is deaf because I can hear some
signals. Is there a way to quantify and verify that at least the radio is
receiving as designed ? The K3S, antenna, and coax are all new. 

Without a signal generator or such I'm not sure how this can be
accomplished. I was only able to barely hear one or two people on the SSB
net and was not able to check in.  

I'm in the Charlotte NC area for reference. My dipole is at 35' broadside to
45 degrees. Due to the height I'd expect high angle radiation which should
help/work for NVIS and longer type contacts. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB

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[Elecraft] K3S AGC macro question

[ae4pb]

Hi, I'm learning macros and using the K3 test utility to learn.

Tech MD is turned on.

 

When trying to set AGC SLP=000 and AGC THR=8 using the below commands the
AGC SLP setting refuses to change. 

MN074;MP008;MN017;MP000;SWT14;

 

Troubleshooting:

Entering the following commands responds with ?:  but I see the correct
attribute displayed. 

MN017;

MP;

 

Variations I've tried for the data command:

MN074;MP008;MN017;MP000;SWT14;

MN074;MP008; SWT14;MN017;MP000;SWT14;

MN017;MP000;SWT14;

MN017;MP00;SWT14;

MN017;MP0;SWT14;

 

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.. 

Firmware version MCU 05.35

 

Tnx.

 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands onthe air

[ae4pb]

Not hearing them at all 


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:43 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Wes (N7WS)
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands onthe 
air

My kinda lifestyle:-)

-Original Message-
From: "Wayne Burdick" 
Sent: ‎7/‎10/‎2015 4:16 AM
To: "Wes (N7WS)" 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands onthe 
air

Maybe the TX3X team actually has a life? (Snorkeling, beer, group sing-a-longs, 
sleeping, leisurely brunch, more beer)

Wayne


On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:08 AM, "Wes (N7WS)"  wrote:

> Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of antennas 
> and 21K Q's in 6 days.
> 
> E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.
> 
> Just sayin'
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/6/2015 10:22 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and 
>> KPA500s.
>> 
>> See:  www.tx3x.com
>> and
>> http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands onthe air

[ae4pb]

The issue is likely because my dipole is oriented towards EU.. I need to lookup 
the bearing from SC and probably move the ends of my dipole (not easily done).
Jer

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:51 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands onthe 
air

They are on. The Elecraft rigs sound great (of course, I’m a bit biased)… I 
worked them on 21285 SSB a short time ago. They are presently very readable 
here in Northern California.
Propagation conditions are much better today than yesterday with much lower QRN 
caused by solar conditions (geomagnetic storming).

Keep trying. They are weak but workable. The K6TU propagation charts accessible 
from the TX3X web site are definitely a help. Stu has done a great job with his 
propagation site, worth checking out.

73!

Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 10, 2015, at 12:16 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> 
> Not hearing them at all
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Gary
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick; Wes (N7WS)
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield 
> Islands onthe air
> 
> My kinda lifestyle:-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Wayne Burdick" 
> Sent: ‎7/‎10/‎2015 4:16 AM
> To: "Wes (N7WS)" 
> Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield 
> Islands onthe air
> 
> Maybe the TX3X team actually has a life? (Snorkeling, beer, group 
> sing-a-longs, sleeping, leisurely brunch, more beer)
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:08 AM, "Wes (N7WS)"  wrote:
> 
>> Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of antennas 
>> and 21K Q's in 6 days.
>> 
>> E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.
>> 
>> Just sayin'
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/6/2015 10:22 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>>> TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and 
>>> KPA500s.
>>> 
>>> See:  www.tx3x.com
>>> and
>>> http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] Prolific driver windows 10

[ae4pb]

The MFJ unit sold by HRO works on windows 10. 


Jerry Moore
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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alfredo 
Velez WP3C
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 7:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Prolific driver windows 10

Any other USB cable to RS-232 that Works with Windows 10?

Alfredo Velez WP3C/NP4DX
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To: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2015 5:55 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] Prolific driver windows 10

HI

I installed Windows 10 and now it does not recognize the K3 by the CAT.
I want to know if there is a new prolific driver.  Thanks 73'


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Re: [Elecraft] Unplugging the radio to protect it

[ae4pb]

Do I disconnect every cable? No, just Coax at the radio and power strip from
the wall (which disconnects all else). The ONLY connection I don't have the
ability to easily disconnect (which I'm trying to figure out) is station
ground. 

To date I've never lost a piece of my station gear and we get LOTS of
lightning storms. Most of my experience is from the past when I had a tower.

Your experience with Kenwood is one of the MAJOR reasons I went with
Elecraft. Every other manufacturer I've dealt with or heard about only wants
to sell you product with minimal support and seem to go out of their way to
make it difficult for you to get anything under warranty.


Jerry Moore
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Pauly
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:47 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Unplugging the radio to protect it

I had an experience a couple weeks ago where the USB audio chip in my
Kenwood stopped working. Kenwood service refused to fix the problem under
warranty and blamed me for not unplugging every single cable to the radio
when not in use. I had only disconnected the antenna. Not the power, USB,
key, etc. No other equipment was affected and the USB CAT still worked, so
only one chip stopped working. The Kenwood service center even said they
have had tons of people with the same problem. That experience prompted me
to order a K3S and it's currently in a UPS truck somewhere between CA and
IN.

My questions for you guys and gals are:
Do you disconnect every cable when the radio is not in use?  What are
Elecraft's expectations or recommendations to us?  What chip does the K3S
use for USB audio?  How would Elecraft, the company, have handled this
situation?

Peter
W0VLL
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Re: [Elecraft] INRAD has a new owner

[ae4pb]

Scott at Vibroplex has excellent customer service and his products are 
awesum!!! I look forward to seeing what's next for Inrad. I expect Scott will 
take it to the next level for sure.





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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chortek Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:17 PM
To: Bob McGraw - K4TAX; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] INRAD has a new owner

Great news!  Maybe we will start to see some innovation - like an 
additional roofing filter for the Kenwood TS-990!
Bob/AA6VB

  From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 6:14 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] INRAD has a new owner
   
October 6, 2015 – Vibroplex LLC of Knoxville, TN announces the acquisition of 
International Radio Corporation of Aptos, CA.  The sale was finalized on 
September 23.  International Radio, commonly referred to as “Inrad”, is the 
leading manufacturer of aftermarket and OEM crystal filters for Amateur Radio 
transceivers and receivers with some
250 different models currently available for present day equipment and obsolete 
gear dating as far back as the 1950's.  Inrad is presently the OEM roofing 
filter supplier for the popular Elecraft K3/K3S series of HF transceivers.  The 
last day of operations in California was September 22.  Inrad is now up and 
running at the Vibroplex offices in Tennessee but the backlog of present orders 
on hand will take several more days to fill.  The former and new owners say 
thank you to the Amateur Radio community for more than 40 years of Inrad 
business.  Inquiries about Inrad can be directed to the main Vibroplex email 
address at vibrop...@vibroplex.com or sa...@inrad.net

--
73
Bob, K4TAX


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[Elecraft] K3S / P3 Pre-Purchase questions

[ae4pb]

I'm saving up for my next purchase which will likely be the P3 or the SubRX
and want to know what the P3 does that my current setup doesn't ? I didn't
have the cash to get the P3 during my initial purchase so I have a slightly
modified SDR (cost $20+shipping) connected to my K3S monitored on my laptop
by HDSDR softeware. I get a full display of the IF spectrum showing the
correct and current frequency. I can click on any signal and the radio
automatically tunes there, view the audio, hear the audio on my laptop if I
choose. For $14 each I added x2 - 15" Monitors for a total of 3 displays.

 

Most of my operating will have a laptop for logging so that's not an issue.
I'm currently running the latest version of HRD but am considering a
different RIG control software that's more specific to the K3S but it will
need to integrate with the rest of the HRD suite.

 

So the question is: what will the P3 do for me that I don't already have? I
definitely see a huge benefit of seeing the radio IF signals and am looking
at a setup for the CW thing to watch the entire IF if possible. I will be
getting the P3 eventually regardless but it's priority has changed from
"need/very nice to have" to "want/integrated feature".

 

Comments/suggestions on or off-list welcome. Probably best to answer off
list. 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S odd KAT3A behavior and question

[ae4pb]

Operator error. I somehow had Ant 2 selected which begs the question as to how 
I was receiving signals at all (nothing is connected to ant 2). Selecting the 
actual antenna and such works 100%.

 

 

From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 10:57 PM
To: Jerry Moore; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S odd KAT3A behavior and question

 

I tried this a couple of times with my K3S.  Didn't notice any difference 
between the tuner active and tuner bypassed.  

Tuner insertion loss is in the order of 1.0 dB or less when matched, depending 
on which side of 50 ohms it is required to match.  Very low Z matches tend to 
show a bit more loss than values above 50 ohms. 



73
Bob, K4TAX 

On 10/2/2015 9:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:

I only tuned enough to not be on top of the station. 

On October 2, 2015 10:40:28 PM EDT, Bob McGraw - K4TAX  
  wrote: 

If I understand this correctly.   It seems you set / tuned the ATU for a 
higher frequency, being the 2nd frequency where you listened, then moved 
back down band with out retuning.  It would seem then the ATU would be 
set for some frequency other than the one you were receiving.  Yes, 
going to bypass might indeed likely show a higher received signal.
 
73
Bob, K4TAX
 
On 10/2/2015 2:00 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:

 I was playing with my K3S listening to code on 40m. I could clearly hear the
 signal but it wasn't loud. I spun the dial up a good bit and listened,
 nothing heard after about a minute so I pressed ATU Tune. The ATU clicked a
 few times and stopped. I spun back down where I was (somewhere around
 7.033MHz) and dialed in the signal. Sounded about the same. Just for grins I
 did a long press ATU Tune (ATU) to BYPASS. The signal immediately jumped
 over S9 (was around S7 before). That didn't make sense so I repeated the
 process a few times with the same results.
 
   

 

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Re: [Elecraft] For CW ops

[ae4pb]

Bill,
   What's required to maintain the site and how much do you want for it?

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 9:51 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] For CW ops

The CW website   http://www.radiotelegraphy.net/  will closing at the 
end of October 2015.

The time has come in my life to simplify things, so the site is for sale
- only to a good home. Sale price is very negotiable, however, the buyer
must have a demonstrated serious interest in the site's subject. I just do
not wish to see the collection of information lost.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC




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Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

[ae4pb]

I just got mine with my K3S and haven’t even noticed it other than the power 
lamp being on. No issues or power drops at full power out. 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 8:19 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

Hello

 

I will appreciate feedback from users of the SS30DV power supply with a K3

 

Are you happy with it?  With full power on the K3, the SS30DV is running 
comfortable? IS noisy?

 

If you compare for example with a Samlex SEC-1235M, what do you think?

 

Thanks very much

 

73,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W



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[Elecraft] K3S odd KAT3A behavior and question

[ae4pb]

I was playing with my K3S listening to code on 40m. I could clearly hear the
signal but it wasn't loud. I spun the dial up a good bit and listened,
nothing heard after about a minute so I pressed ATU Tune. The ATU clicked a
few times and stopped. I spun back down where I was (somewhere around
7.033MHz) and dialed in the signal. Sounded about the same. Just for grins I
did a long press ATU Tune (ATU) to BYPASS. The signal immediately jumped
over S9 (was around S7 before). That didn't make sense so I repeated the
process a few times with the same results. 

 

Am I wrong to expect a higher signal level with the ATU tuned than bypassed?


 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

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Patriotic.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 RX optimization

[ae4pb]

I find the audio FX delay feature really makes a huge difference in my
headset. I'm not sure how/why but I hear and copy better with it turned on.
I currently run the delay at 5. 
Jer

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Duncan
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RX optimization

Most of you have probably already discovered this, but the following points
I have found for CW operation (some of it applies to all modes) may be of
help for new owners of a KX3:   

1. The default 30dB of preamp gain isn't always a good choice. If I notice
that the noise level (without signals) on a particular band is S5 or
stronger, I reduce the preamp gain by 10dB and see if that helps. Amplifying
noise doesn't help copy the signal buried in it any better. Even the noise
reduction (NR) circuit will work better when it isn't swamped with noise;
the CWT also works better for tuning a CW signal. I often find that
reception on 40m and 80m is better with the preamp off or at 10 dB gain max.
Note that preamp gain is set in the menu individually for each band.

2. A narrow bandwidth such as 300 Hz or even 100 Hz can really make the CW
signal you are trying to hear stick out. A narrower bandwidth also makes the
CWT tuning work better. I use a 500 Hz bandwidth when tuning around and then
reduce it once I find a signal of interest, using CWT to get "on his
frequency" (you could also press the SPOT button to let the KX3 center
itself on the signal). 

3. Remember that the receiver RF Gain setting appears to work "backwards" to
what many people think. Maximum sensitivity is at a setting of 0 (zero),
poorest sensitivity is at a setting of 60.

 

73, AL - VE3RRD

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Proper Grounding

[ae4pb]

Part of my confusion is based on this being a commercial solution that
didn't have a problem until recently. One thing I've thought of is that my
TV configuration may have changed with the addition of a Chromecast..etc..
so I'll be doing a clean setup troubleshooting here soon (remove everything
except power, see if I can duplicate.. if not then add antenna lead... if
not ... add..etc.. ). The only other change in my environment is that the
weather is raining and the antenna routes through a pear tree. So it's
possible the wet foliage is contributing. If that's the case then the tree
comes down. 

I'm expecting that it's something added/connected to the TV. Powerline
filters haven't had any effect. I just realized my station safety grounds
aren't connected because I'm still working on my Operating table hutch. Just
have the trim and staining to finish for that. I'm also planning to run a
dedicated power cable with heavier gauge wire to get a better ground at my
station. Based on the TON of responses I've gotten I'll be running a heavy
gauge THNN or similar from outside my station (where I'll add a ground rod)
up to an antenna switch for grounding and bonding all of it together with
the main ground on the other side of the house. I'm not sure how I'll NOT
end up with a ground loop in this configuration.



Main panel/ground is around 80' from the proposed shack ground rod. So the
Main panel ground will come in via the heavy power cable. The shack side
ground rod will bond to the heavy power cable ground. The antenna switch
ground will run along the roof and down the side of the house to the shack
ground rod. All internal shack equipment will be grounded via a heavy copper
bus plate to the power cable ground. So the coax will end up being grounded
in the shack AND via the antenna switch ground. From all of the reading the
antenna switch ground is for lightning to have a lower impedance to ground
OUTSIDE the house instead of through my gear/power system.


It will be a bit to get this done as I'm having to replace antenna switches
lost during a relocation. I have the antenna control boxes for the ameritron
RCS8 and 4. Apparently I can't just buy the switch without the controlbox.
Jer





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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:25 AM
To: 'elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Proper Grounding

Good information David. I also Have a 80m OCF
http://www.slickpic.com/users/GeneGabry/albums/N9TFHamStationPhotos/?wallpap
er
 #8644290

and choosing the correct balun and RF choke is paramount. I went with the
(W2FMI design) Com-BAL-41130ET 4:1 current balun. A bit pricy at $100.00,
but worth every buck. I also added a 10 turn RF choke at the feed point.
Absolutely no RF back to the shack on any of the 7 bands it is resonate on.
Only running 100 watts, but antenna is low hanging at 35' with only about
50' of coax feeding from shack. 

 

73 Gene N9TF

 

K3S 10057

 

>I think we are drifting off topic, my apologies, but if you are 
>considering
an ocf dipole you can only prevent common mode currents by use of a double
>wound balun, ie 2 separately made chokes connected together as a 4:1.  
>A
single core version does not properly cancel the common mode current that
>results in unwanted radiation from your coax feeder and can make your
equipment live to rf.

> A huge amount of work has been done on this subject by DJ0IP and I 
> suggest
you look at his site

 

>  http://www.dj0ip.de/balun-stuff/ is 
> a
good place to start.

 

>The proof of the pudding is in the eating and I have not seen anyone do
real world measurements like he has on real aerials.  

 

>David

 

>G3UNA

 

> 

> On 30 September 2015 at 20:51 Jerry Moore <
 je...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> What I don't understand is my previous radio didn't affect the TV

> as far as I know (xyl never complained) so it has me perplexed because

> the radio shouldn't matter. As far as the buckmaster ocf, it uses a

> current transformer (auto-transformer )to balance the antenna and 
> match
the impedance.

> Jer

> 

> On September 28, 2015 1:37:16 PM EDT, Jim Brown

> <  j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:

> >On Mon,9/28/2015 9:35 AM, dw wrote:

> >> If a tuner is located at the rig-side of the coax, and the coax 
> is
at

> >> high SWR, it could possibly be a cause for coax radiation.

> >

> >It doesn't work that way.

> >

> >Radiation from coax is the result of IMBALANCE in the antenna. A

> >ferrite

> >common mode choke at the feedpoint can fix that.

> >

> >73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Proper Grounding

[ae4pb]

Ouch

Please discontinue this thread. I'll keep the rest of what I want to say to
myself. 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Merv Schweigert
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:30 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Proper Grounding

This whole thread is quite amusing,  no matter how much explanation takes
place, people still believe a ground rod is RF ground .

Then the poor guy with the problem who states "nothing has changed"
admits he has not grounded the station gear yet.  but it was before.
Talk about a lot of posting for nothing.
I hope some of you will at least read and learn, there has been some great
info put forth in this thread,  and from the replies one can tell that some
still dont get it.

Thanks to Jim and others who have the patience to keep going over and over
the facts trying to educate.  Hope some of it sinks in,
73 Merv K9FD/KH6   WH2XCR



10/1/2015 8:11 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote::
>> Part of my confusion is based on this being a commercial solution 
>> that didn't have a problem until recently.
>
> Buying "a commercial solution" seems to mean that you're assuming that 
> whoever is selling a product really understands how antennas work and 
> the shortcomings of the product they're selling, so you don't have to 
> understand it.  Part of being a ham is taking the time to actually 
> learn how stuff works. I suggest that you study the links I posted 
> yesterday. They are both tutorial and practical.
>
>> Just
>> have the trim and staining to finish for that. I'm also planning to 
>> run a dedicated power cable with heavier gauge wire to get a better 
>> ground at my station. Based on the TON of responses I've gotten I'll 
>> be running a heavy gauge THNN or similar from outside my station 
>> (where I'll add a ground rod) up to an antenna switch for grounding 
>> and bonding all of it together with the main ground on the other side 
>> of the house. I'm not sure how I'll NOT end up with a ground loop in 
>> this configuration.
>
> While a dedicated power line to your station is a good thing, there's 
> too much foggy thinking and false logic in what some have been telling 
> you to do. The earth is NOT a sump into which RFI is poured. Yes, you 
> should run a bonding cable from your station to a ground rod, BUT that 
> rod MUST be bonded to all other grounds for safety. What these two 
> measures can do for you is CONTROL where common mode current flows -- 
> it will flow on that new ground wire and that new dedicated power line
> -- but that RF current will still RADIATE, and can be picked up by any 
> other wires in your home, like those in your home entertainment system.
>
> Caps added for emphasis. :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3S proper grounding?

[ae4pb]

On 40m my TV turns off and on by itself when I transmit. I'm thinking that
it's related to grounding because I've not figured that out yet. I have a
roof mounted mast that holds my dipole. The coax comes down through the
roof, routes through the attic down inside the wall to the station. I've
been told I need to ground the feedline BEFORE it enters the house but I'm
not sure how to get a ground correctly up to the roof. No matter how I run
the ground a lightning strike would likely ignite my house inside the attic
if I run it inside the house. I have a low pass filter installed just
before/after the Rig. 

 

The plan I'm thinking of so far. 

1.   Run an 8 gauge dedicated power feeder from my main panel (on the
opposite side of the house) to the shack with a 20A breaker. The 8Ga is to
lower ground losses. 

2.   Install a ground rod outside my shack and run a heavy gauge to the
shack to bond with the dedicated power line ground.

3.   Ground all gear in the shack to the dedicated power ground.

4.   ?? maybe do a run of 14-2 romex with all three leads bonded together up
to the mast, install a mast antenna switch and ground it with the 14-2. 

Thoughts /comments?

 

Running only 100w into a Buckmaster 7 Band OCF dipole at 35' per the
instructions. The dipole is broadside to 45 degrees for EU coverage. 

 

Thanks in advance. I've read A LOT on grounding but haven't seen this
scenario covered. 

 

 

On another note I appear to have an allergy to my key. I just can't bring
myself to get on the air with it. I need the practice to get my speed. 

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

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Patriotic.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S proper grounding?

[ae4pb]

Wow, good info ty. I'm not sure why it's a problem now. My prior rig wasn't
nearly as nice as the K3S and the XYL never complained about me
transmitting. 
I'll figure it out. I guess I'll end up taking my Samsung TV apart. 

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To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S proper grounding?

Jerry,

I had this exact problem on 40m with a 42" Samsung LCD tv. I finally got it
working, but here's what I tried that ultimately proved useless:
-- Added a counterpoise on the floor of the shack for 40m
-- Added ferrite cores on all cables connected to the tv; power cord HDMI;
audio line out
-- I even opened up the tv housing and placed cores over interconnections
between boards.

Ultimately, I finally figured out that rf was getting into the
touch-sensitive switch matrix on the tv at the lower right corner. So, I
found cardboard box with dimensions such that  if it sat on the table top
along with the tv with the opening facing upward, the top edge of the box
completely covered the switch matrix up to the point where the bezel met the
tv screen. Then I made a simple Faraday shield with some aluminum foil
completely coating the inside of the box, and then another sheet of aluminum
foil covering the outside of the box, but the two foil shields did not
connect together electrically. Then I ran a wire from only the outside
shield, to the underside of a screw head of one of the screws that holds on
the back cover of the tv. Then I measured where the infrared LED sensor for
the remote was located with respect the to edge of the tv bezel, and punched
a hole through the box such that with the box in position to completely
cover the area of the keypad, the remote would still operate the tv. I also
made sure that punching the hole did not connect the two layers together.

Yes, it's really ugly and strange looking, but my wife can watch tv now when
I'm on 40m, and I don't have to keep resetting the settings on the tv that
got clobbered every time I operated.

Prior to 'The Box', as little as 20 watts would make the tv do all kinds of
interesting things. With the shield in place, I can run full power from the
KPA500 and it doesn't bother the tv in the least. This is with all of the
ferrite cores that I had previously installed, removed.

This may or may not be the source of the problem with your tv, but it's a
very easy thing to try as a first check.

Good luck with resolving your TVI issue.

73,

Dale, WA8SRA




> On 40m my TV turns off and on by itself when I transmit. I'm thinking 
> that it's related to grounding because I've not figured that out yet. 
> I have a roof mounted mast that holds my dipole. The coax comes down 
> through the roof, routes through the attic down inside the wall to the 
> station. I've been told I need to ground the feedline BEFORE it enters 
> the house but I'm not sure how to get a ground correctly up to the 
> roof. No matter how I run the ground a lightning strike would likely 
> ignite my house inside the attic if I run it inside the house. I have 
> a low pass filter installed just before/after the Rig.
>
>
>
> The plan I'm thinking of so far.
>
> 1.   Run an 8 gauge dedicated power feeder from my main panel (on the
> opposite side of the house) to the shack with a 20A breaker. The 8Ga 
> is to lower ground losses.
>
> 2.   Install a ground rod outside my shack and run a heavy gauge to the
> shack to bond with the dedicated power line ground.
>
> 3.   Ground all gear in the shack to the dedicated power ground.
>
> 4.   ?? maybe do a run of 14-2 romex with all three leads bonded together
> up
> to the mast, install a mast antenna switch and ground it with the 14-2.
>
> Thoughts /comments?
>
>
>
> Running only 100w into a Buckmaster 7 Band OCF dipole at 35' per the 
> instructions. The dipole is broadside to 45 degrees for EU coverage.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance. I've read A LOT on grounding but haven't seen this 
> scenario covered.
>
>
>
>
>
> On another note I appear to have an allergy to my key. I just can't 
> bring myself to get on the air with it. I need the practice to get my
speed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>
> An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, 
> and Patriotic.


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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

[ae4pb]

Have you guys considered moving the company to a state with a lower cost of
living?

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric
Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:55 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

Early Alert for Elecraft list readers:

Our costs are going up as our vendors are increasing their prices to us and
our labor costs increase. Its been a continual battle to keep costs down as
economic activity has increased the last two years. We've been absorbing
this, but now we  have hit the point where we will be increasing prices
slightly on a number of our products by about the middle of October.

Of course, all orders received prior to the increase will be charged at the
lower, pre-increase, pricing when they ship.

Please don't all or email our sales / support people about which products
will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do not have this
information yet. (We're still in the middle of this review.) We'll let you
all know as soon as we have everything finalized.

73,
Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

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Kent,

  No I haven't because there aren't many places with a higher standard of
living. In fact I don't know of any other area that enjoys high employment
rates in high paying positions, lower cost of living/taxes, lower crime. Why
would I want to move somewhere with higher taxes, crime, and unemployment?

 

If I could find the same or better standard of living elsewhere that also
afforded high employment and low crime I'd definitely consider it. 

 

CA is an excellent state to visit and I've worked for several companies
based there (including the US Navy). San Diego, LA. And the Long Beach are
all nice areas but expensive to live with higher crime rates. I don't know
much about Mo. as it's never mentioned in discussions about technology or
high paying jobs. In fact the only time I recall hearing about Mo. was
during the riots in Ferguson.

 

1.   Standard of living is not 1:1 with cost of living.

2.   Anything that increases the cost of doing business has the net effect
of increasing the cost of goods and services. 

3.   I see no reason why you assume and imply that my standard of living is
low. You obviously know nothing about me or the area in which I live. 

4.   If the job market were to dramatically change in a negative direction I
would re-locate. It's a matter of record that families from all over the
country ARE moving to my State/area due to higher standards of living with
lower costs of living.

 

 

Kent, at the end of the day the goal of a business is to make money. When
the cost of business rises then the company makes decisions to cut costs or
raise prices. In this case Elecraft has decided to raise prices. I want to
support them because they are US based and I appreciate the value they bring
up to a point. 

 

For me personally I paid the premium for the radio because I believe in the
company. 

Is it wrong for me to want the company to survive and ask if they considered
moving the company to lower their costs of doing business because they may
be struggling ? 2nd major jump in prices in less than a year?

 

If you were attempting to insult me then I apologize for taking your
question seriously. 

If your attempt was to insult then my answer to you is: "Bless your heart".

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: KENT TRIMBLE [mailto:k9...@socket.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:06 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

 

Have you considered moving your family to a state with a higher standard of
living?

Kent  K9ZTV




On 9/24/2015 8:03 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:

Have you guys considered moving the company to a state with a lower cost of
living? 

 
 
 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

[ae4pb]

Jim,
   I do have a clue on Ca. It's a great place to live but expensive as heck
compared to most places except maybe NYC. San Diego is one of my favorite
places to live. 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:23 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

On Thu,9/24/2015 6:03 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> Have you guys considered moving the company to a state with a lower cost
of living?

If you had a clue about the quality of life in the part of California where
Elecraft is located, you wouldn't be asking that question. I live a few
miles down the road, and it's as close to heaven as I can imagine.

73, Jim K9YC
Santa Cruz, CA
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[Elecraft] K3S - APF/RTTY question

[ae4pb]

I was trying to work K3P on 80m RTTY last night (new mode for me) and was
struggling to understand the owner's manual. I don't fully understand how to
get the dual APF to display correctly and setup. At one point the K3S
appeared be decoding correctly sometimes as I would sometimes see his call
and 599. I rarely saw the correct station he was calling and didn't
consistently copy.  I was never able to get HRD to copy any of it. I was in
Data mode and the CWT did show split tuning but I struggled to get the right
most set of bars to stay filled even after playing with the width/filter..

 

I'm sure this is just a learning process and I've tried several websites on
setting up for RTTY with no success. Anyone have a good guide on the K3/S
with/without HRD on RTTY?


Thanks in advance. 

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

[ae4pb]

Unfortunately you are right. I just don't like it ;)
Jer

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for mid October

Inflation is part of life. Been to a grocery store lately? Bought a new car
lately? Sent a kid to college lately?

Elecraft is doing fine for its customers - so stop whining!

Bill W2BLC K3-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - APF/RTTY question

[ae4pb]

If I understand the question I'm in data AFSK A 45wpm, connected to HRD
DM780, I can hear the RTTY on both the radio and computer, I think I have
the radio tuned correctly because the Text is about 70-80% correct, I'm
seeing callsign and report most of the time. Computer shows no data, I've
done 45 FSK, 45 AFSK , both reverse, I'm not sure what I'm transmitting when
I try that as I can't hear it. I found the APF button, it was hidden right
in front of me :)

I did notice at first that I did NOT have RTTY audio at the computer.
There's a bug in the audio device settings where changing the sample rate
"fixes" it. Now I have RTTY audio but still no text..

On my earlier concern about possibly damaging something when connecting USB
and RS232: I opened up and removed all of the I/O boards, they all passed
the visual and sniff test, main board top and bottom pass visual and pass
sniff test. I have noticed that my Mag Loop controller is acting funny so
maybe I'll get lucky and that is it. 


Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.




-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:41 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - APF/RTTY question

Jer,

Which DATA sub-mode were you in?  For RTTY, you would normally be in AFSK A
and then you could activate the dual tone filter.  I believe most use MMTTY
for RTTY, but HRD/DM780, Fldigi and other waterfall oriented software can
work as well.
In AFSK A (or FSK D) the K3 is in LSB (normal for RTTY) unless you activate
REV, and the K3 dial frequency is the mark frequency.  Make certain that the
mark frequency and rate in the K3 menu agree with your software application
settings.

Other soundcard data modes normally use DATA A where USB is the normal
sideband.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/24/2015 12:35 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> I was trying to work K3P on 80m RTTY last night (new mode for me) and 
> was struggling to understand the owner's manual. I don't fully 
> understand how to get the dual APF to display correctly and setup. At 
> one point the K3S appeared be decoding correctly sometimes as I would 
> sometimes see his call and 599. I rarely saw the correct station he 
> was calling and didn't consistently copy.  I was never able to get HRD 
> to copy any of it. I was in Data mode and the CWT did show split 
> tuning but I struggled to get the right most set of bars to stay filled
even after playing with the width/filter..
>
>   
>
> I'm sure this is just a learning process and I've tried several 
> websites on setting up for RTTY with no success. Anyone have a good 
> guide on the K3/S with/without HRD on RTTY?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>
> An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, 
> and Patriotic.
>
>   
>
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - APF/RTTY question

[ae4pb]

I think I got it working. I changed the K3S Settings to 915 - 170 and
HRD/DM780 started decoding correctly. I was able to work N3P successfully
..TYTYTYTY... 
What threw me off was that the K3S was decoding correctly anytime I had the
tuning close but I wasn't getting anything (not even garbage) on the
computer. I'm about ready to wipe Windows 10 and go back to win 7. Actually
with the way I operate I could almost ONLY use the laptop for logging and do
the rest by ear or at the K3!





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:41 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - APF/RTTY question

Jer,

Which DATA sub-mode were you in?  For RTTY, you would normally be in AFSK A
and then you could activate the dual tone filter.  I believe most use MMTTY
for RTTY, but HRD/DM780, Fldigi and other waterfall oriented software can
work as well.
In AFSK A (or FSK D) the K3 is in LSB (normal for RTTY) unless you activate
REV, and the K3 dial frequency is the mark frequency.  Make certain that the
mark frequency and rate in the K3 menu agree with your software application
settings.

Other soundcard data modes normally use DATA A where USB is the normal
sideband.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/24/2015 12:35 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> I was trying to work K3P on 80m RTTY last night (new mode for me) and 
> was struggling to understand the owner's manual. I don't fully 
> understand how to get the dual APF to display correctly and setup. At 
> one point the K3S appeared be decoding correctly sometimes as I would 
> sometimes see his call and 599. I rarely saw the correct station he 
> was calling and didn't consistently copy.  I was never able to get HRD 
> to copy any of it. I was in Data mode and the CWT did show split 
> tuning but I struggled to get the right most set of bars to stay filled
even after playing with the width/filter..
>
>   
>
> I'm sure this is just a learning process and I've tried several 
> websites on setting up for RTTY with no success. Anyone have a good 
> guide on the K3/S with/without HRD on RTTY?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>
> An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, 
> and Patriotic.
>
>   
>
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

[ae4pb]

The manual doesn't indicate that you can't have both the USB and RS232
connected at the same time. In fact the manual states that you can connect
the RS232 specifically for PTT. The RS232 isn't going to be used for rig
control, only PTT. If this is an unacceptable configuration on the K3S then
the book needs to be properly written.

I'll pull the covers at lunch and see what the smell is. 
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:25 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

Jerry,

Did you have the USB connection to the K3S still connected while you also
connected the USB to Serial adapter into the RJ-45 dongle?

If so, that is a "No-no".  RS-232 (whether from the internal K3 USB to
serial adapter or from an external adapter) is a one to one, point to point
protocol.  It must have *only* one driver on the signal lines.
If you connected both at once, you had two drivers on the signal lines, and
those two drivers would "fight with one another", possibly causing damage.
When one driver is trying to send a mark, the other trying to send a space,
those two signals are of opposite polarity and can cause damage to one
another.

So whether you damaged your external USB to serial adapter or if you damaged
the internal USB to serial adapter in the K3S is indeterminate - damage
could have been done to both.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/22/2015 10:42 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> So my new K3S is running well and I'm setting up my software and see 
> that it can do digital modes and control PTT using a comm port. I open 
> my owners manual, page 20, which says I can use that connection for
control and PTT.
> I'm already using the USB for control so will just use it for PTT. I 
> have a USB to serial adapter so I install it, plug in the RJ47 
> connector to the rig, mate the DB 9 connectors and immediately smell 
> burning components, Quickly disconnect the DB9.
>
>   
>
> I was previously using this serial adapter successfully on a YAESU 
> FT-897D before I sold the rig to get the K3S.
>
>   
>
> So now the questions:
>
> 1.   Why did this apparently experience an issue? I see nothing in the
> manual to indicate this requires anything but a standard connection.
>
> 2.   How much damage has been done to my brand new k3S using the supplied
> Elecraft cable and a known good previously good USB to Serial cable 
> (MFJ I believe).
>
>   
>
> I'm heartsick. Being the type of person who checks and double checks 
> things I can find nothing wrong with what I did and yet apparently 
> I've damaged something.
>
>   
>
> Tomorrow I'll pull the cover and check the board.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>
> An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, 
> and Patriotic.
>
>   
>
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

[ae4pb]

What I'm trying to do:
1. USB for audio and serial control.
2. RS232 for PTT keying.

Everything is the same power, I'll pull the cover and reconnect everything
at lunch and see what I get.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:35 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

Hello Jerry!

I am not sure what you mean by "I'm already using the USB for control so
will just use it for PTT. "

You can certainly use USB for audio and RS232 for serial control. If you use
RS232 for serial control, you need to set up the menu for the data rate.
You must also use RS232 for RTS and DTR in that case.

If you set up for USB for serial control,then you must use RTS and DTR over
USB as well.

I have plugged in USB<->RS232 cables between my computer and the KIO3B using
the supplied RJ-45 <-> DE-9 cable and it worked fine.  I have also done this
using USB for audio.

No smoke ever escaped during all of this testing and use.

I cannot diagnose what may have failed or why, but it sounds like the
computer system may have a different power ground return than the radio
system and there may have been current flowing though the RS232/USB
connection as a result.

Hooking a serial port to the supplied serial port cable with the menu
selecting RS232 should cause no problems, and using USB with the menu
selecting USB should cause no problems.

I have had things hooked up and had the menu in the incorrect selection
(RS232 but only USB physically connected, or USB with only RS232 physically
connected) with no physical damage, though of course the rig did not
communicate with the application under those circumstances.

73,

Lyle KK7P


> So my new K3S is running well and I'm setting up my software and see 
> that it can do digital modes and control PTT using a comm port. I open 
> my owners manual, page 20, which says I can use that connection for
control and PTT.
> I'm already using the USB for control so will just use it for PTT. I 
> have a USB to serial adapter so I install it, plug in the RJ47 
> connector to the rig, mate the DB 9 connectors and immediately smell 
> burning components, Quickly disconnect the DB9.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

[ae4pb]

Ok, the manual is wrong. I got it..ty ;)

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Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:48 AM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

That won't work.  Nothing will be damaged.

The input signal group TO the radio from the outside world (RTS, DTR, serial
data) are physically switched as a group between the RS232 buffer chip and
the USB<-> serial chip.

In USB mode, data to the radio, along with RTS and DTR, will only be
recognized from the USB port.  Data FROM the radio will be available on both
the USB port and the RS232 port.  This allows you to use USB to a computer,
for example, while having an antenna tuner or SteppIR antenna or other
external devices "listen" to the radio data.

In the RS232 mode, all three signals are switched as a group to the
RS232 buffers.  Again, serial date FROM the radio is simultaneously present
on the USB and RS232 ports, though in this case the data on the USB port
will only be meaningful if the RS232 port is set to 38,400 bps because the
internal USB<->serial chip is set to communicate internally for 38,400 bps
at all times.

The USB mode or RS2323 mode are selected from the RS232 menu.  If a data
rate is displayed (4800, 9600, 19200 or 38400) then the RS232 mode is in
effect.  If the display is "USb" then the USB mode is selected.

Similarly, LINE OUT audio (from the radio) is always sent to both the USB
port AND the analog LINE OUT jack on the rear of the radio. if nothing is
plugged into the LINE IN jack, then audio in LINE mode will be taken from
the USB port.  If a plug is detected at the LIEN IN analog jack, then USB
audio will be ignored and audio will be expected from the analog LINE IN
jack.

I'm sorry if the documentation in the manual was not clear on these points.

73,

Lyle KK7P

> What I'm trying to do:
> 1. USB for audio and serial control.
> 2. RS232 for PTT keying.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 No RX & No RF output

[ae4pb]

When you turned it off did you turn off the rig or the powersupply?

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph
McClintock
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 2:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 No RX & No RF output

  I folks,
Just turned on my K3/100, SN8600 series, rig but I now have no receive plus
no transmit RF out. And, CQWW RTTY is in a few days. The K3 worked perfectly
yesterday but today no RX, no TX, other than that single (non
RF) bar on RF out when keyed. It is not in Test mode, not in Transverter
mode. Just shut down yesterday, turn on today and nothing. The Pre-Amp
on/off amplifies the noise, so it looks like the RX is working just has no
antenna input. It is not antennas, coax etc as the K2/100 sitting next to
the K3 works perfectly on all bands/antennas. Yes, I did check it directly
to the same antenna as the K2. It feels like a PIN diode problem to me. Any
ideas I may have missed.
Thanks, W1ZK

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[Elecraft] K3S PTT using DTR/DTS issue

[ae4pb]

So my new K3S is running well and I'm setting up my software and see that it
can do digital modes and control PTT using a comm port. I open my owners
manual, page 20, which says I can use that connection for control and PTT.
I'm already using the USB for control so will just use it for PTT. I have a
USB to serial adapter so I install it, plug in the RJ47 connector to the
rig, mate the DB 9 connectors and immediately smell burning components,
Quickly disconnect the DB9.

 

I was previously using this serial adapter successfully on a YAESU FT-897D
before I sold the rig to get the K3S.

 

So now the questions:

1.   Why did this apparently experience an issue? I see nothing in the
manual to indicate this requires anything but a standard connection.

2.   How much damage has been done to my brand new k3S using the supplied
Elecraft cable and a known good previously good USB to Serial cable (MFJ I
believe).

 

I'm heartsick. Being the type of person who checks and double checks things
I can find nothing wrong with what I did and yet apparently I've damaged
something.

 

Tomorrow I'll pull the cover and check the board. 

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier

[ae4pb]

I'm eventually wanting to play with Sats so I'll need a full duplex 2m/70cm
anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:40 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier

My experience on VHF is 10 to 20 watts and a 10 ele yagi is OK for most CW
and SSB work when good tropo conditions exist.  However, more antenna in the
air will help on both receive and transmit and be to more advantage to all
as opposed to 100 to 200 watts alone.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Results

[ae4pb]

Had I remembered I would have attempted to check in. Maybe next weekend if
I'm not out of town.


Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
An Amatuer is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian
Kahn
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 2:08 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Results

First, a huge mea culpa to everyone. Normally I would have sent out a
reminder email yesterday about today's net. However, my schedule was such
that I didn't even get in front of the computer yesterday. That said, the
band was totally dead today. I barely heard John, N6JW, for about a minute
before he disappeared into the ether, and I got one other check-in. Here are
today's results:

KM4IK Ian GA K3 281
N6JW John CA K3 936
WV5I Dwayne TX K3 5287

I'm going to put out a request for assistance for next Sunday, 9/27. I've
had a family matter come up that will take me out of town next weekend. I
don't anticipate being home in time to call the net. If there is anyone that
can pick up the reins for me and be net control, I would greatly appreciate
it. Please email me at the address in my signature block, below, if you can
assist.

Have a great week, everyone.

Thanks and 73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624  North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962
K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468
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Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

[ae4pb]

Forgive me in advance if this is a stupid question. 

Is there any reason you have to tune at full power? It seems to me that
tuning can be accomplished easily with much lower power. The same thing goes
for the ATU to the antenna. I don't see why we need more than a few MW at
most for the ATU to Antenna link. 



Rightly or wrongly when I was in the hobby the first time I ran a TS-850
into an SB-220 to an MFJ roller tuner connected to an antenna switch
feeding: 80m inverted V, 30m/40m rotatable dipoles, and a triband beam.
Whenever I tuned on the inverted V or outer band limits of where my antennas
where tuned I ended up putting labels on the ATU on cap position and a
number/clock combo that represented a roller inductor position for each band
area I cared about. It ended up I rarely had to tune up anything one the air
because I knew where the antenna tuning was using just the Rig and ATU;
tuned the APM into a paintcan MFJ load then switch it inline. I was all set
and never had issues when I needed to kick in the horses. 

Now my debate is 500w vs 800w... there's a larger difference between 500w
and 800w than between 800w and 2.5kw signal wise if I understand
correctly... 


Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward
R Cole
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:00 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

Don't have much to say:

Had a Cantenna from Heath in the 60's - knocked over; spilt mineral oil on
the floor, threw can away!

I have acquired "dry" loads over the years rated into UHF and sometimes to
mw at flea markets and swaps.  My highest power load is 500w Sierra with
power meter and switch for 150 or 500w (probably good to 1000-MHz).  Have a
couple Bird terminations rated 50w.  Most can handled double their rating
for short duration.

The hardest duty on my loads is when optimizing the output of a new unit
where I'm keyed up longer than I should.

But I do have a question on how adjusting a tuner into a 50-ohm load saves
one from transmitting a signal once the tuner is connected to an antenna
that may not be 50-ohms.  On 600m my inverted-L is Z = 0.8 
+j680.  Tuning into a 50-ohm load does nothing to help match the
antenna.  The amplifier is solid state with input and output transformers
(no adjustment).

I think, unless you use a high power tetrode or triode, that no one tunes
amplifiers anymore.  Solid state amps are broadband and need LP filters to
keep from amplifying harmonics.  BTW my 2m-8877 is capable of 2000w* RF
output so pretty hard to find a dummy load to take that.  Fortunately the
amp does not change much so very little tuning is ever needed (of course I
am on a small segment of one band about 200-KHz wide).  Of course the answer
is to tune antenna at lower power and hope the High Power amp will always be
looking at 50-ohms.

I do not have a QRO 2m antenna tuner but the antenna SWR < 1.25 so only the
anode tuning needs a light adjustment occasionally (loading has not be
adjusted for 8 years).  My "dummy load" has 19.2 dBd gain and radiates well.

*I operate at 1365w CW which allows for about 9% variance in meter accuracy
to stay legal.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

Ah..when I do that folks send QLF...what the heck is that ??? LOL.. :D
Jer



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
Wheeler
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:59 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

Yes. Key is mounted on the side of the hand grip and labeled PTT :-)

Phil W7OX

On 9/18/15 4:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
> What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key?
> :p
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, S.N. 010324
>
>
> On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary <vk1zzg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aah Jim,
>>
>> Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx 
>> station calling, you answer and by being so cheeky, you suddenly get 
>> swamped.
>>
>> We got'em over here too, you folks are not alone.
>>
>> So glad Elecraft supplied a VFO as standard, unlike a microphone, 
>> right Wayne?
>>
>> Soon as I stop chuckling I can drink my coffee.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> Sent: ‎19/‎09/‎2015 7:20 AM
>> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?
>>
>> On Fri,9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>> Is bandwidth really our biggest problem?
>> It is during contests. Or when you're trying to fit in between the 
>> many
>>
>> ragchewing nets masquerading as "emergency" nets. And don't try to 
>> make
>>
>> a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV crowd has claimed, even 
>> though they are dead when you call.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

LOL yeah, the sales guys are all trained to tell you that you need to order it 
if you need it. But also that the rig supports computer pc headset/electret 
mic. 

 

From: Gary [mailto:vk1zzg...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:50 PM
To: Jerry Moore; j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

 

Jerry,

The microphone I mentioned was I guess an inside joke with Wayne, way back when 
the dark ages got some light, a customer ordered an early k3.

Guess who didn't notice you need to order one?

The look on my face was priceless, for all the rest there's Mastercard right?

Gary 

  _  

From: Jerry Moore <mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com> 
Sent: ‎19/‎09/‎2015 9:44 AM
To: Gary <mailto:vk1zzg...@gmail.com> ; j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key? 
:p

Jerry Moore
AE4PB, S.N. 010324



On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary <vk1zzg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Aah Jim,

Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx station 
calling, you answer and by being so cheeky, you suddenly get swamped.

We got'em over here too, you folks are not alone.

So glad Elecraft supplied a VFO as standard, unlike a microphone, right Wayne?

Soon as I stop chuckling I can drink my coffee.

Gary 


-Original Message-
From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Sent: ‎19/‎09/‎2015 7:20 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

On Fri,9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
 Is bandwidth really our biggest problem?

It is during contests. Or when you're trying to fit in between the many 
ragchewing nets masquerading as "emergency" nets. And don't try to make 
a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV crowd has claimed, even 
though they are dead when you call.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

Yep, when I got my extra 20wpm was still required.. I'm guessing it wasn't but 
a few years after that the requirements started dropping.


Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324




-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob 
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:03 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

I view that an acceptable digital mode for ham radio has been around 
since day one!   It's called CW.And at one time, it was required of 
all hams to learn to send and receive via the mode.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/18/2015 6:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
> What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key?
> :p
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, S.N. 010324
>
>
> On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary <vk1zzg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aah Jim,
>>
>> Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx 
>> station calling, you answer and by being so cheeky, you suddenly get 
>> swamped.
>>
>> We got'em over here too, you folks are not alone.
>>
>> So glad Elecraft supplied a VFO as standard, unlike a microphone, 
>> right Wayne?
>>
>> Soon as I stop chuckling I can drink my coffee.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> Sent: ‎19/‎09/‎2015 7:20 AM
>> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?
>>
>> On Fri,9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>> Is bandwidth really our biggest problem?
>> It is during contests. Or when you're trying to fit in between the 
>> many
>>
>> ragchewing nets masquerading as "emergency" nets. And don't try to 
>> make
>>
>> a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV crowd has claimed, even 
>> though they are dead when you call.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

I was trying to be funny with the mic as a key comment. I'm almost on the air 
:) hopefully tomorrow if the mail made it this far :)

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard 
W. Solomon
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

It means ..."send with your left foot"... 

HI HI

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:22 PM
To: 'Phil Wheeler'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

Ah..when I do that folks send QLF...what the heck is that ??? LOL.. :D Jer



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
Wheeler
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:59 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

Yes. Key is mounted on the side of the hand grip and labeled PTT :-)

Phil W7OX

On 9/18/15 4:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
> What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key?
> :p
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, S.N. 010324
>
>
> On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary <vk1zzg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aah Jim,
>>
>> Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx 
>> station calling, you answer and by being so cheeky, you suddenly get 
>> swamped.
>>
>> We got'em over here too, you folks are not alone.
>>
>> So glad Elecraft supplied a VFO as standard, unlike a microphone, 
>> right Wayne?
>>
>> Soon as I stop chuckling I can drink my coffee.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> Sent: ‎19/‎09/‎2015 7:20 AM
>> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?
>>
>> On Fri,9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>> Is bandwidth really our biggest problem?
>> It is during contests. Or when you're trying to fit in between the 
>> many
>>
>> ragchewing nets masquerading as "emergency" nets. And don't try to 
>> make
>>
>> a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV crowd has claimed, even 
>> though they are dead when you call.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

Let me re-phrase the question:

How hard would it be to implement a new mode on the K3S? 

I am having a blast learning all of the menus and how to do things.. I never
actually realized how many functions and settings there are (even after
reading the manuals). There's a lot that doesn't seem to be in the book
(most are intuitive) and some that takes a bit of digging. 
Jer

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sverre
Holm (LA3ZA)
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:33 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

The country you may be referring to is Norway, where it has been decided to
switch off all the biggest broadcasters from FM (88-108 MHz) in 2017 as the
first country in the world, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32380222

It has been a controversial decision, I for one have critized the audio
coding used for sacrificing audio quality in an Audio Engineering Society
presentation in 2007 "Audio Quality on the Air in DAB Digital Radio in
Norway" http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~sverre/papers/07_AES-DAB-Corrected.pdf

But I cannot quite see the relevance for VHF FM for hams.


ae4pb wrote
> I'm wondering since Digital voice is replacing FM around the world how 
> hard it would be to add another mode to the K3S? I'm not even sure 
> what the standards are but one country just set the date to get rid of 
> FM permanently and switch to DV.
> 
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 10324





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

[ae4pb]

My understanding is that we as a community "self-police". If we find an OM out 
of band or transmitting an out of spec signal we do the neighborly thing and 
help them fix it. I don't believe anyone (there are lids..other than them) 
intentionally transmits a poor signal. My view is that much of the younger 
generation are more into the operational than the "here's out it works and 
why". If you approach them with kindness and a helpful attitude you'll find 
that you can get it all done while making a new friend ;).

Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:18 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

Comparisons with single signal stations seems irrelevant.

Is anybody addressing the issue of QRM from other stations?   I suspect 
digital will fold -- especially when one is trying to detect one out of many or 
a station immersed in splatter from one or more stations.

The ability of the mind to pull out an individual station in the analog QRMed 
world would seem to be lost.  This is best illustrated by people being able to 
decode one voice of many at a party.

Here the switch to digital TV has been frustrating.  Stations which had 
previously been received acceptably are spotty.   The digital cliff 
effects are a killer.   The one station we really like to watch (PBS 55 
miles away, two edge diffraction reception) is greatly effected by day/night, 
the seasons and weather conditions. Admittedly some of degradation is due to 
the move from VHF to UHF. However I suspect that an analog transmission on the 
same frequencies would still be 
watchable.   Part of the problem at UHF is enhancement of multipath 
effects.  (Also DTV apparently is transmitting with 6db less power which is 
supposed to be made up by the digital decoding at the reception end. 
)  One sees this with a highly directional high gain antenna.   A 
station will drop out and if you bump the antenna a few degrees, it will return 
and then drop out.  It is a dance between the rotor to try to 
keep a station locked.If these multipath effects are so significant 
for digital, single signal one might expect the problem to exist in spades on 
HF.  Anybody who has looked at WWV carrier transmissions on a high resolution 
FFT display can see several distinct signals due to 
multipath shifted by up to 2 Hz at times.   The strongest of the bunch 
moves from FFT bin to bin.  As a side note, those HDTV stations who stayed on 
low VHF channels have had no end of problems.

Apples and oranges perhaps.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 9/18/2015 2:16 AM, Gary wrote:
> Don,
>
> Absolutely spot on sir.
>
> Gary
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Don Wilhelm" <w3...@embarqmail.com>
> Sent: ‎18/‎09/‎2015 11:30 AM
> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?
>
> You have listed 3 digital voice modes that do not talk to each other.
> Furthermore, I recall that these are proprietary coding schemes.
> That is not "Ham Radio" in my mind.  Ham Radio is "everyone can talk 
> to everyone else", and those digital voice systems where you can only 
> talk to those hams who have purchased the same brand of equipment as 
> you have selected is more like commercial circuits where you want to 
> shut out those who do not 'speak the same language that you do'.
>
> I don't think proprietary protocols belong on the ham bands - just my 
> not so humble opinion.  Yes, I am also opposed to proprietary data modes.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/17/2015 9:03 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>> Take a look at the digital voice modes that are being used on the VHF and 
>> UHF bands: DMR, D-STAR and Fusion.
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

[ae4pb]

Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware
dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being
overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the
rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware
that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless.
Everything internal ONLY is zinc. 

 

My Hints/Tips:

1.   Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin
rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints
off of everything and you get a slight better grip. 

2.   Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they
have some slight carbon content. 

3.   Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver.

4.   User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to
pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity
helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple.

5.   Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I
have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a
dramatic difference to my work.

6.   Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container.
Don't mix zinc and stainless J

7.   Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you be
for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times
because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she
has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts
incorrectly and caught it on verification. 

 

Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure
out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate
the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal .

 

 

Jerry Moore

AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

[ae4pb]

The small box appears to be missing for the TCXO. I've gone through the
bubble wrap jungle twice. 
On the gloves. My static mat is grounded via the static lead, The work piece
is grounded via a static lead to the mat, and I'm grounded to the mat via
another lead. It's a real world static sensitive assembly setup. I've seen
this done in manufacturing so I'm not sure where any ESD precautions are
defeated. I've even seen the work lead left off in manufacturing. I added
just because. *shrug*..maybe I missed something. 
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S Sn. 10324

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Rogers
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

The assembly manual is quite clear when it calls for SS (stainless
steel) hardware.

RE: surgical rubber gloves - I would advise against that. The purpose of the
anti-static mats and ESD percautions would be defeated by the use of any
insulating material between you and the boards you are handling. 
Remember the whole purpose is to keep everything at the same potential. 
Remember the old high school physics experiment of the rubber rod and the
silk cloth?

The TCXO is probably in a small box protected by conductive foam.

73s, Jim, W4ATK
On 9/17/2015 7:30 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd 
> hardware dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically 
> without being overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless 
> hardware and the rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or 
> nearly all) hardware that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside
screws/bolts is stainless.
> Everything internal ONLY is zinc.
>
>   
>
> My Hints/Tips:
>
> 1.   Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin
> rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep 
> oil/fingerprints off of everything and you get a slight better grip.
>
> 2.   Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they
> have some slight carbon content.
>
> 3.   Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver.
>
> 4.   User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to
> pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that 
> gravity helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple.
>
> 5.   Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I
> have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made 
> a dramatic difference to my work.
>
> 6.   Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container.
> Don't mix zinc and stainless J
>
> 7.   Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you
be
> for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several 
> times because my better half wanted to share details of something. 
> Being that she has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently 
> assembled some parts incorrectly and caught it on verification.
>
>   
>
> Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to 
> figure out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but 
> can't locate the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and
sheet metal .
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324
>
>   
>
>   
>
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