[Elecraft] RE: New concept/tool for CW dxing
Gday For those on the reflector who are wondering what this new tool (VE3NEAs CW Skimmer) is like from a users point of view, see the review of well-known contester Pete N4ZR at: www.pvrc.org/~n4zr/Articles/Skimmer.pdf I have used Alexs Rocky software for the last eighteen months or so and, like Pete, am an alpha/beta tester of the big sister CW Skimmer software. It is an amazing program and was originally designed to help Alex VE3NEA to increase his operating efficiency in DX pileups when operating his 100W/dipole type station against those running 1.5kW and beam antennas. It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for spotting a new 160m country for me, whilst I was (kindly) working a pileup of USA and JA stations on the same band. Whilst CW Skimmer spotted the station for me (as a packet cluster would have done), I still had to actually work the station through a large pile-up... ;-) Unfortunately, using the $75 CW Skimmer isnt going to help a little pistol beat the CQ WW score of a big gun contester who has a holiday QTH in the Caribbean with automatically tuned Alpha linears, stacked monobanders and four-squares, so lets not get carried away here. It also isnt going to make big gun operators of this kind any more invincible if they use it than they probably already are. ;-) On the other hand, owing to its speed of operation (when a DX station calls CQ, Skimmer is going to recognize their callsign very quickly, as long as their CW is half decent and isnt smothered in noise), it can help little pistols to work some new countries. I really like Skimmer and regard it as the best operating tool in my DXing arsenal. Of course, coupled with a K3 and using IF-based Q5er/panadaptor, its mojo may just be amazing! To paraphrase Mark Twain, the death of real CW operation now that CW Skimmer has arrived is greatly exaggerated. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ (FOC #1693) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB width control
Patience my friend... A known issue list will eventually appear. Shades of the Shipping Status ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:28:30 +, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > Please, I implore Elecraft to publish the known issues list. > Quite a few threads on here, which seem to get into endless debate, are > known issues to Elecraft. I'm sure some people are spending a lot of time > tying to figure out something that doesn't seem quite right, when it is a > known issue. > 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 > > > On 6/2/08 05:09, "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > >> This is on the issues list already. The change will be to have 100 Hz steps >> below 3.0 kHz and 200 Hz steps above that. >> >> 73 >> Greg >> AB7R >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Toby Deinhardt >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:11 PM >> To: G4ILO >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB width control >> >> >>> probably can't tell the difference between 2.6 and 2.7 so it's no real >>> hardship to keep the DSP 100z narrower, but it's a bit of a niggle. >>> >> It's rather simple - above 2kHz the K3 uses 200Hz steps and below 2kHz >> steps of 100Hz. >> >> If you tune down from 2.7kHz: 2700, 2500, 2300, 2100, etc. >> >> If you tune up from 1.8kHz: 1800, 1900, 2000, 2200, 2400, 2600, etc. >> >> vy 73 de toby >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: New concept/tool for CW dxing
Gday For those on the reflector who are wondering what this new tool (VE3NEAs CW Skimmer) is like from a users point of view, see the review of well-known contester Pete N4ZR at: www.pvrc.org/~n4zr/Articles/Skimmer.pdf I have used Alexs Rocky software for the last eighteen months or so and, like Pete, am an alpha/beta tester of the big sister CW Skimmer software. It is an amazing program and was originally designed to help Alex VE3NEA to increase his operating efficiency in DX pileups when operating his 100W/dipole type station against those running 1.5kW and beam antennas. It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for spotting a new 160m country for me, whilst I was (kindly) working a pileup of USA and JA stations on the same band. Whilst CW Skimmer spotted the station for me (as a packet cluster would have done), I still had to actually work the station through a large pile-up... ;-) Unfortunately, using the $75 CW Skimmer isnt going to help a little pistol beat the CQ WW score of a big gun contester who has a holiday QTH in the Caribbean with automatically tuned Alpha linears, stacked monobanders and four-squares, so lets not get carried away here. It also isnt going to make big gun operators of this kind any more invincible if they use it than they probably already are. ;-) On the other hand, owing to its speed of operation (when a DX station calls CQ, Skimmer is going to recognize their callsign very quickly, as long as their CW is half decent and isnt smothered in noise), it can help little pistols to work some new countries. I really like Skimmer and regard it as the best operating tool in my DXing arsenal. Of course, coupled with a K3 and using IF-based Q5er/panadaptor, its mojo may just be amazing! To paraphrase Mark Twain, the death of real CW operation now that CW Skimmer has arrived is greatly exaggerated. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ (FOC #1693) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX1 antenna help
Hello all. I am wondering what the groups opinions are about the best end fed antenna lengths would be for taking my newly built KX1 mobile? I have a bunch of #534 wire from wireman coming today. My KX1 has the 30/80 board and ATU on board as well. I would assume that radials would be appropriate. How many? How long? Thank you in advance for your comments. Dohn N8EWY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] New K3 in (my) town
The Brown Stork delivered K3 # 340 (kit) Feb 5. Ordered May 14, w/o deposit. I vey happy! Thanks Lisa et al. George, N4YM K2 # 4758 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
I told my wife I wanted a K3 her answer was "Only if I get to help build it!"... My wife is a mechanical engineer though :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3 Get a NEW wife! ;-) I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3. She said no and her reason! "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" She informed me that this was the new math :O) I had to share this. Bless my Wife's heart. Robert Parker VE3RPF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
Get a NEW wife! ;-) I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3. She said no and her reason! "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" She informed me that this was the new math :O) I had to share this. Bless my Wife's heart. Robert Parker VE3RPF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
When I told my YL I was ordering a K3 her answer was "Only if isn't loud..." German: Nur wenn es keinen Krach macht. (Krach = raise hell, crash, bang, noise) vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3
Congrats! Mike First qso was VP6PR, yadayada. . BTW What do you mean "yadayada"? "yadayada" means "No No" by girls or kids in Japanese. 73 de JE1TRV, Atsu Tokyo Japan KX1 #248 K1 #1082 K2/100 #4255 K3:asking Eric to accept direct order from JA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: RE: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
My wife told me "Go and get one, so I can use it also.. She is KD0AZX / HB9EGL. It sure has an advantage if your (X)yl is a radioamateur too 73 de Tom Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:43:57 +0100 > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > An: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: RE: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won\'t let me buy a K3 > When I told my YL I was ordering a K3 her answer was "Only if isn't > loud..." > > German: Nur wenn es keinen Krach macht. (Krach = raise hell, crash, > bang, noise) > > vy 73 de toby > > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 (yada yada)
Atsu, see http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/yada-yada.html The term "yada yada" became popular after its use in the tv comedy show "Seinfeld". It's a humorous way to say "etcetera etcetera" 73, Barry N1EU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] MH2: microphone
I am sure this has been asked before but I cannot recall there being a definite answer. What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3? Was the original microphone defective in some way? Does it now have a different insert? If it is different mechanically, what is the difference? 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
Heard this transmission on the local 2 meter repeater: So the XYL said to me, "You can choose right now, it's either ME or Ham Radio..." !!! Oeeer. ;-) Previous message: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3 My wife told me "Go and get one, so I can use it also.. She is KD0AZX / HB9EGL. It sure has an advantage if your (X)yl is a radioamateur too 73 de Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM version suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics and had replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element. (Leaving the unused dynamic element unused inside the case.) When he ran out he suddenly stopped selling them, so we had to locate the manufacturer of the plastic cases and spec our own custom version. For our MH2, the only changes were to eliminate the unused dynamic element left inside the case by Heil, and to improve the foam mounting for the electret element for better mechanical support. Overall the two mics sound identical. We've bought a very large quantity of these and they will be around for some time. :-) 73, Eric _..._ David Pratt wrote: I am sure this has been asked before but I cannot recall there being a definite answer. What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3? Was the original microphone defective in some way? Does it now have a different insert? If it is different mechanically, what is the difference? 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
Forty-six years ago when my XYL was still a YL I made it clear to her that she would not like the answer to that question. --- Don Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heard this transmission on the local 2 meter > repeater: > > So the XYL said to me, "You can choose right now, > it's > either ME or Ham Radio..." !!! > > Oeeer. > > ;-) > > > Previous message: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let > me > buy a K3 > > > My wife told me "Go and get one, so I can use it > also.. > > She is KD0AZX / HB9EGL. > > It sure has an advantage if your (X)yl is a > radioamateur too > > 73 de Tom > > > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - MH2: microphone
Eric Swartz wrote (re the old and the new MH2): They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. Eric, is the mic element in the Proset-K2 the same and would one expect the output level, frequency response and general performance of that and the MH2 to be the same? By the way my K3, No 266, has been up and running for a week now and I am very happy with it. Many thanks to you, Wayne and all at Elecraft. 73 Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection
I'm looking for information on connecting a computer headset's boom mic to the K3 rear mic jack. I've read through the archives, but it seems the messages either refer to making connections via the front jack (with its discrete pins available), or just, "I plugged it in & it worked." I don't have my K3 yet to test with. My following questions are based on the scenario that just plugging it in doesn't work. My mic plug is stereo, so I'm assuming its an electret. The K3's jack is mono, but apparently has a bias voltage available via the menu. I'd like to build a "dongle" (short adapter cable) to interface the mic with the jack. To preserve the headset, I don't want to modify its plug or cable. Does the bias voltage appear on the tip of the K3's jack? One archived message indicated that at least some computer mics have both the ring & tip connected together; I'm at work now & can't test mine. Would I add a resistor across the tip & ring lines, and add a small capacitor in-line from the K3's jack tip to the mic's tip to block DC? Sorry for what may be a painfully obvious set of questions, but I've never connected anything but a regular mic to a rig before. I plan on using the rear jacks to keep unnecessary cables from cluttering up the front of the rig. 73, Mike KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
Many thanks to Eric, Ed N0EHQ and Geoff G3UCK for their comments about the MH2. Those that I have heard from a K3 produce excellent audio. 73 David G4DMP In a recent message, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. David Pratt wrote: What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3? -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 SSB width control
Greg I'll add my voice to M0XDF's comments. I have wasted many hours in frustrated operating attempts and in trying to carefully document problems only to be told that they were "know". In addition to bugs, we have seen repeated discussion of feature requests, that go on and on until someone from Elecraft lets it slip in a comment that they are on the secret development list. Many software development projects publish a list of what they are working on and what to expect in the next release. This would be very useful to your customers. I think an Elecraft maintained list would serve us all better than the informal attempts of users to maintain a list or people "confidentially" mailing out their perceived list of problems. Bob KD8CGH KX1, K2, K3 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-SSB-width-control-tp15299816p15307885.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
Is there any adjustment to this delay? I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, for example. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Dave G4AON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3 > Lee > > From the key out line on the K3 going low, RF appears just a shade over > 10 mS later. You need a linear that can accept RF in that time. > > 73 Dave, G4AON > K3/100 #80 and Acom 1000 linear. > http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/ > = > I would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what > users have found in "real-life." > > Lee Buller > K0WA > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
In a recent message, Robert Tellefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... Is there any adjustment to this delay? I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, for example. I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays clatter with every dot and dash which did not happen with the K2. I am a bit worried that it can't be doing the XV144 relays much good. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
Not yet. There will be a menu item for an adjustable delay within certain limits, but I cannot say exactly when it will be available. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 6 9:23 , "Robert Tellefsen" sent: >Is there any adjustment to this delay? >I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, >for example. >73, Bob N6WG > >- Original Message - >From: "Dave G4AON" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:28 AM >Subject: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3 > > >> Lee >> >> From the key out line on the K3 going low, RF appears just a shade >over >> 10 mS later. You need a linear that can accept RF in that time. >> >> 73 Dave, G4AON >> K3/100 #80 and Acom 1000 linear. >> http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/ >> = >> I would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what >> users have found in "real-life." >> >> Lee Buller >> K0WA >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
RE: Issues and Enhancements document I agree that it is time to make this available. It seems that Elecraft has really ramped up the production (at least for now) of the K3s. There are ostensibly over 300 in the hands of users. Customer expectations are shifting. I too would like to see a place on the Elecraft page where we can see just what's on "the list" in terms of: 1. Known issues (problem list / bugs) that are either "in the works and being resolved" or "soon to be addressed." 2. Requested enhancements ("wish list") with some sort of priority flag (high, med, low, and "don't hold your breath") Since "the list" is often cited on the Elecraft Reflector, I would hope that it would not take a whole of time and effort to post "the list" somewhere. Okaythis probably does not meet the email list criteria since it is a "me too" comment, but I hope I don't get stomped on too badly. ;-) de Doug KR2Q K2 5285 1st K3 #295 2nd K3 (on order since Nov 21) And did I tell you that I really like the K3 and the Elecraft customer service! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
Steve Ireland wrote: > > It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for > spotting a new 160m country for me > > I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to. Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And if the big guns are instantly alerted to the presence of any DX on the band, it reduces the window of opportunity for the alert, but un-equipped with this program, little pistols. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-New-concept-tool-for-CW-dxing-tp15269987p15309795.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: RE: Issues and Enhancements document 1. Known issues (problem list / bugs) that are either "in the works and being resolved" or "soon to be addressed." 2. Requested enhancements ("wish list") with some sort of priority flag (high, med, low, and "don't hold your breath") I too would like this, but as a software developer I know why they don't do it (at least, I know why *I* don't do it). 1) The amount of time it would take to compile such a list might not be unreasonable. But then they have to respond to all the questions, suggestions, and arguments that it will generate. And the 'they' is basically Wayne, who really has more to do now than one regular human can do. 2) Once something is listed as a future feature, many will interpret that as a contract. If it turns out later to have been a bad idea, too complicated, etc. then the decision to not do it will have to be justified. Think about this in terms of the *thousands* of people who have an interest in the K3 and you can see why it would be a heavy load. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
Ten out of ten Julian. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to. Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And if the big guns are instantly alerted to the presence of any DX on the band, it reduces the window of opportunity for the alert, but un-equipped with this program, little pistols. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
It Elecraft send me their bug / issues list, I will treat it confidential and put together an agreed (with them) page for the Wiki. Could we not do this on an 'as seen' basis, no questions to Elecraft about the issues, or at least not that you should expect Wayne/Eric/Lyle/Greg to answer (sorry if I missed anyone :) On 6/2/08 18:49, "Vic K2VCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: >> RE: Issues and Enhancements document > >> 1. Known issues (problem list / bugs) that are either "in the works >> and being resolved" or "soon to be addressed." >> >> 2. Requested enhancements ("wish list") with some sort of priority >> flag (high, med, low, and "don't hold your breath") > > I too would like this, but as a software developer I know why they don't > do it (at least, I know why *I* don't do it). > > 1) The amount of time it would take to compile such a list might not be > unreasonable. But then they have to respond to all the questions, > suggestions, and arguments that it will generate. And the 'they' is > basically Wayne, who really has more to do now than one regular human > can do. > > 2) Once something is listed as a future feature, many will interpret > that as a contract. If it turns out later to have been a bad idea, too > complicated, etc. then the decision to not do it will have to be justified. > > Think about this in terms of the *thousands* of people who have an > interest in the K3 and you can see why it would be a heavy load. -- When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier. Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those that don't have them. 73! Dan KB6NU -- CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator Read my ham radio blog at http://www.kb6nu.com LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO! On Feb 6, 2008, at Feb 6, 1:30 PM, G4ILO wrote: Steve Ireland wrote: It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for spotting a new 160m country for me I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to. Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And if the big guns are instantly alerted to the presence of any DX on the band, it reduces the window of opportunity for the alert, but un-equipped with this program, little pistols. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
After playing with this program for a few days it seems obvious that the decoding part of the program is trying most of all to extract a call sign. As a result of this you can see the AI part of the program do what it can to separate all things after “DE” and construct a legitimate call. You can almost see it “think” as it makes those decisions. If you’re looking for a straight CW decoder for ciphering contest calls at mach 3, the K3 will do it as well as any of them and better than most (including CW Skimmer). I just admire Alex’s programming efforts. His unusually simple interfaces always succeed in disguising some very complex programming. The real benefit of this program will be realized with an I/Q receiver on the IF port. It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology objectionable. After all, aren’t we all about technology? Why would we hang around this forum if we weren't looking for a leg up. Just because someone has found a tool to work a new one doesn’t mean anything except to the ham that did it. There are times when I take out my homebrew DC receiver and a homebrew transmitter and pound away. There are times when I like to take my KX-1 to Central Park. There are times when I have three or four ham programs running all connected to my K3 during a contest. I do it because I want to and because its fun. If it wasn’t, I could go play golf (and really make myself miserable). Tom, AK2B -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-New-concept-tool-for-CW-dxing-tp15269987p15312656.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 SSB Audio
Having a great time with my K3 (#228) which I mainly use for CW. However on SSB (2.7 filter) I find it tends to ring - even more so with DSP (speaker and headphones). Gary sent me a very fast and helpful e-mail and I have found that trial and error adjustment of FL FRQ makes an improvement - but it still tends to resonate slightly. Is it the xtal filter (would the 2.8 be better?). Is it anno domini and my hearing ? (unlikely as I was only licenced in 1963). Gather others have commented and would welcome shared experiences and advice 73 Nick G3RWF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
Would it make you feel better if it was said that getting a list is on the list? Cause I'm willing to be that's all you'll get. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Ducie Island... and the K3s
Just picked this up from another reflector... This is the DXpedition which will be running (I think) all Elecraft K3s. 73, Tom N0SS _ Just worked DL8LAS/MM 14006, on his way to Ducie. Good signal but struggling to raise the occasional W. Says they have about another 48 hours sailing before landfall, so guess you should start looking about 72 hours from now, if you need him. This may be news to you if you are not watching their web-site. 161, John, ZL1AH. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
Not A Lot :) On 6/2/08 20:03, "Brett Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Would it make you feel better if it was said that getting a list is on the > list? Cause I'm willing to be that's all you'll get. -- I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] It's their business ...
It's Elecraft's (Wayne & Eric) business to run as they see fit ... not "ours". There's no way they could ... or should ... respond to each and every one of "our" whims. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 ALIGNMENT II
Do I have a problem ??? Completed alignment II and all went fine by the book. No problems of any kind. But I put an antenna on it to tune around a bit and not much there. Only very strong cw siganls as heard on my icom could be barely heard on the K2. Is this normal or do I have a problem ? WB4VFN Rich ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Sidetone
I have been away from the K2 for a while. I decided I wanted to get my CW back into good form and was using the internal keyer with no antenna and power set to nil (<0.1 watt). After using it a while, I decided to set the sidetone in to PF1 and make levels easier to set. I did that and the next time I poked a button (intended to be PF1) the sidetone quit and no amount of playing with the menus has made it return. Finally the sidetone comes on if I hold PF1 to display the sidetone menu and then release that and push menu. At no time does the sidetone act normal. What next? Wayne, K9NE K2 S/N 4858 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K2 ALIGNMENT II
Hi Richard! Yes it seems that there is some problem here. It appears to be very much alike the problems that I experienced after completing Part II of the K2-project. Check that D29 and D34 (near the xtal filter) are soldered in the right direction. Also check for correct values of the capacitors in the 40 meter bandpass and lowpass filters (I made a mistake there in my recent K2), as well as for bad solder joints. There is a small capacitor (C6, i think) which is supposed to be soldered between the two outer pins in the three pin connector J15 (back left on the RF board seen from the component side). If C6 is missing or soldered between the middle pin and one of the outer pins there will be no signal. Ok, hope that's pushes you in the right direction, at least. 73! Hans / LA2MOA Sofar 2xK2, 2xK1 and 1xKX1 built and more to come... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2: microphone
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc. We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM version suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics and had replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element. (Leaving the unused dynamic element unused inside the case.) When he ran out he suddenly stopped selling them, so we had to locate the manufacturer of the plastic cases and spec our own custom version. For our MH2, the only changes were to eliminate the unused dynamic element left inside the case by Heil, and to improve the foam mounting for the electret element for better mechanical support. Overall the two mics sound identical. We've bought a very large quantity of these and they will be around for some time. :-) 73, Eric Is the old Elecraft/Heil MD2 plug and play with the K3? Paul N4LCD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Issues and Enhancement Documents.
It seems like most of those calling for a list of issues and enhancements are ones who have already received their K3. First, they whined about the delayed shipping, and now, once they have their K3, have found something else to whine about. Maybe they should consider investing the time spent shooting out e-mail after e-mail in learning about their K3. If you think something's an issue, inquire about it ONCE and get back to the learning process. Folks on this list will respond with a status in most cases. That should be enough for now. Let Wayne and Eric and their staff focus on the business of catching up on their shipping and the other things they consider important. As Ken said "It's their business". Let them attend to it. I'm sure, that in time, all of these issues will be addressed and, in most cases, answered. Perhaps the price one pays for wanting to be first in line for a K3 is to also have to use their own initiative for awhile to figure things out. At times it appears that this reflector has become a crutch for even the simple questions or ones that have been asked and answered numerous times. Let's let Wayne, Eric and the Elecraft staff focus on the business of getting caught up on their K3 orders and the issues THEY want to focus on. I'm sure there are many folks on here who would love to just get their hands on their K3. 73, Dave N8AG Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] It's their business ...
On Feb 6, 2008 3:10 PM, Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's Elecraft's (Wayne & Eric) business to run as they see fit ... not > "ours". > > There's no way they could ... or should ... respond to each and every > one of "our" whims. > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Right, Ken. Elecraft isn't a customer owned co-op. This reflector sometimes seems like a Baptist business meeting. Everyone must have their say. And it's nice that we can. The list generates some good info. Dave W5DHM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 - Low Pass Filter location
At present, I am using the K2/100 to feed a KAT100 antenna tuner. A 160m-10m dipole is connected to the KAT100 as ANT 1 through a low-pass filter and a dummy load is connected as ANT 2, controlled from the K2. I am in the process of installing another antenna (40m-10m vertical) as my prime antenna and the dipole will be my secondary antenna. For ease of operation I would install one as ANT 1 and the other as ANT 2. To take advantage of the low-pass filter for both antennas I am considering installing it between the K2/100 and the KAT2. My concern is with non-linear components in the KAT100 RF path that would generate harmonics and negate the advantage of the filter. Sampling diodes, as in a SWR bridge, are always suspect. If this is to be a problem, I would have to get a second filter, one for each antenna, which is something that I really don't want to do unless I have to. Anyone have words of wisdom based on practical experience? -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 SN308 is alive and well
The build went smoothly - the instructions really take you by the hand and make the assembly almost stupid-proof. I was astounded by the presicion of all the matching pieces. Everything lined up perfectly. For me, the only tricky part was getting the green LEDs on the front panel pc board to line-up with the front panel - but it wasn't that big a deal. After completing the unit, I had one operator error (I was getting tired), one card that needed a slight tweak, and a bad speaker. Elecraft support responded quickly and took great care of me. The radio is fantastic, and was very much worth the wait. It is the finest transceiver I've ever used in my 44 years of hamming. The controls and menus are well thought out. The automatic CW tuning aid is something to behold!! QSK is wonderfull (I'm primarily a CW op) and works seamlessly with my QSK-modified ALS-600 amplifier. I'm still learning the radio, and I'm having a great time. Anyone want to buy a Yaesu MKV? Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Low Pass Filter location
Phil Kane wrote: My concern is with non-linear components in the KAT100 RF path that would generate harmonics and negate the advantage of the filter. Sampling diodes, as in a SWR bridge, are always suspect. If this is to be a problem, I would have to get a second filter, one for each antenna, which is something that I really don't want to do unless I have to. This is an interesting question, because it brings back memories of the good old days when everyone needed an LP filter because of VHF TVI! Keep in mind that the diodes in the KAT100 are before the tuning elements, so that insofar as the L network acts as a LP filter it will reduce the harmonics generated by the diodes. But this will probably depend on the band and the impedance the KAT100 is working into. Also keep in mind that the LP filter is designed to work into a 50 ohm resistive load and will be either lossy or ineffective if the impedance seen on the antenna side of the KAT100 varies much from this. So I would put the LP filter before the KAT100 to deal with any harmonics generated in the K2, and hope that the tuner will eat anything the diodes make. Do you really have harmonic VHF TVI with the K2? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WTB FT857D / Ft100D
Good Morning... My apologies in advance to those on both lists, who see this twice... My FT-100D is now dead. This is my mobile rig, and is used to listen to CW on my commute (see it IS QRP related...) ... HF finals blown, and a receive problem (low sensitivity) too. My time is very limited right now, I opened it up to repair it over a month ago, and it will drag out for weeks if not months... so before I dive deeper into the repairs thought I'd ask... Does anyone have a 100D or 857D for sale ? Or want to trade a 'parts' 100D + cash for either a working FT100D or an 857D ? Thanks Niel PS: FWIW, I'm in So.Utah and work in Las Vegas if there is anyone interested in conducting a transaction in person... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Issues and Enhancement Documents.
UNFAIR! We are most certainly investigating our K3s (I've had mine for a month now and am still learning) - I spent a week of trying to resolve an issue, including taking out the I/O modules and performing some measurements to try to resolve this (at Elecraft's request), all of which proved not to be the problem (ok, that's what investigation is about). So I used my own initiative and followed my first thoughts - considered it was a firmware bug (which I had stated the week previously), reverted the firmware and the problem went away. I then posted that to the list (after Elecraft had confirmed it) to assist those who may have had similar problems and were wondering about it. All of which Elecraft have stated was of help. The end result though was a known issue. My point is, a lot of us would not be asking on the list and Elecraft would not be spending so much time responding to questions, if the known issues were available. Lovely company, great people, great support and responsiveness - a little lacking on the communication side. Perhaps I'm expecting too much, in my line of business, my suppliers publish known issues, expected resolutions and statuses on web sites - but yes they are multi-million companies. And I have to admit, that not something the big 3 do either. Yes I accept that I'm at the sharp end, yes I'm happy to find and report issues. Having the known issues published saves everybody time documenting and chasing them and lets us get on with using the rig and hopefully resolving other issues for those that will follow. Sorry for long posting. 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 On 6/2/08 20:56, "Dave Agsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > > It seems like most of those calling for a list of > issues and enhancements are ones who have already > received their K3. First, they whined about the > delayed shipping, and now, once they have their K3, > have found something else to whine about. Maybe they > should consider investing the time spent shooting out > e-mail after e-mail in learning about their K3. If you > think something's an issue, inquire about it ONCE and > get back to the learning process. Folks on this list > will respond with a status in most cases. That should > be enough for now. Let Wayne and Eric and their staff > focus on the business of catching up on their shipping > and the other things they consider important. As Ken > said "It's their business". Let them attend to it. > I'm sure, that in time, all of these issues will be > addressed and, in most cases, answered. > > Perhaps the price one pays for wanting to be first in > line for a K3 is to also have to use their own > initiative for awhile to figure things out. At times > it appears that this reflector has become a crutch for > even the simple questions or ones that have been asked > and answered numerous times. > > Let's let Wayne, Eric and the Elecraft staff focus on > the business of getting caught up on their K3 orders > and the issues THEY want to focus on. I'm sure there > are many folks on here who would love to just get > their hands on their K3. > > 73, > Dave N8AG -- Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members. -Pearl S. Buck, Nobelist novelist (1892-1973) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] It's their business ...
As a resonable person ;-) I drew the line at "satisfied" when my K3 was delivered, anything further would be icing on the cake. Still true, it's an easy choice. We (with K3's) must acknowledge that others still don't have their radios, or the SubRx - these should take priority, right? After that, I suggested to Eric and Wayne that my company (software) has a great solution. All of the issues are posted on a web page along with the date the issue was raised. Any registered client is allowed to "add themselves" to any of the items on the list one time. Clients see the count incremented when they add themselves to any issue. It becomes very apparent what is most in demand, and given X number of hours to work on software modifications per release, everyone has a fairly good idea where the hours would best be spent. If there were such a list, where would the list itself be sequenced? * Any data corrupting problems in firmware (only one I know of ever was the VFO B differing band issue and that was fixed immediately). Imagine there are things I don't know about if they run like we do. ;-) * Finish and test SubRx Code - think this one is EASY? That will be the mother of all firmware projects and then wait until it's released (feedback!). * FM mode code, SCAN, ESSB Tx, and any other uncompleted yet advertised features. ...(Client list would be here)... * Any new requests that come up after initial shipments that are non data corrupting. In truth, this is only wrt K3 firmware - the company has Dayton coming up - they should bring something, right? No wonder Wayne does not sleep, don't know about Eric.. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Issues and Enhancement Documents.
There is a page on the K3 Wiki for "K3 Firmware - Known Issues" http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Can we encourage people to start posting there and building a data base? That is what Wikis are for (I think cuz I don't really understand them). k4ia Buck **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[OT] Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
Tom AK2B wrote: It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology objectionable. After all, aren’t we all about technology? Why would we hang around this forum if we weren't looking for a leg up? It's really very simple -- a matter of the normal distribution of the variations of human personality. A substantial proportion of people are naturally conservative. They don't react well to things being changed. They will make up a lot of very convincing arguments why this or that change is unwise and shouldn't be allowed, but at the end of the day, it's just very hard for them emotionally to accept things becoming different than what they're used to. Another substantial proportion of people are naturally progressive. They don't react well to things being left alone to mature and take root. They will make up a lot of very convincing arguments why this or that isn't good enough and has to be changed, but at the end of the day, it's just very hard for them emotionally to settle down and leave well enough alone. These two forces are in a never-ending circular dance of engagement, even struggle. This is basically the thesis-antithesis-synthesis process of Hegelian dialectic, if you remember your Philosophy 101. If either side, thesis or antithesis, becomes all-powerful, the dialectic process is subverted and things tend to go wrong eventually. This is because Nature does have a slight built-in bias in favor of change. It's called adaptation. An individual, a species, even life collectively either adapts or eventually becomes extinct. Nothing stays the same forever. Stasis is not an option in this universe. This small bit of potentially relevant philosophy is brought to you as a brief respite from the ravages of taking some things in our wonderful hobby way too seriously. :-) Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] MH2: microphone
Paul asked, "is the old Elecraft/Heil MD2 plug and play with the K3?" Yes, I have an MD2 and it works well with the K3. Barry, WK2S ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
G'day, | In a recent message, Robert Tellefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... | >Is there any adjustment to this delay? | >I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, | >for example. | | I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays | clatter with every dot and dash which did not happen with the K2. I am | a bit worried that it can't be doing the XV144 relays much good. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we mixing up two delays here? Currently there isn't an adjustable "PTT on/carrier up" delay on the K3, this is the same for the K2, approx 10ms if I remember correctly. But did I not read that in semi break-in with the K3 you can adjust the release delay. That should stop the relays rattling. In fact, I did this on my K2 (QSK delay) to reduce the fast vacuum relay activity on my Acom amp. Changed the t-r delay to 0.03 seconds. I don't want to listen to noise between the dots. There again I could be barking up the wrong tree. Regards, Mike VP8NO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
Yes, Mike, you are right about the release delay. Done the same thing here with my K2. I think the original question addressed the "PTT on/carrier up" delay though. It sounds like that has a fixed delay of about 10ms at present. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Mike Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" ; "David Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3 > G'day, > > | In a recent message, Robert Tellefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... > | >Is there any adjustment to this delay? > | >I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, > | >for example. > | > | I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays > | clatter with every dot and dash which did not happen with the K2. I am > | a bit worried that it can't be doing the XV144 relays much good. > > Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we mixing up two delays here? > Currently there isn't an adjustable "PTT on/carrier up" delay on the K3, > this is the same for the K2, approx 10ms if I remember correctly. But did > I not read that in semi break-in with the K3 you can adjust the release > delay. That should stop the relays rattling. > > In fact, I did this on my K2 (QSK delay) to reduce the fast vacuum relay > activity on my Acom amp. Changed the t-r delay to 0.03 seconds. I don't > want to listen to noise between the dots. > > There again I could be barking up the wrong tree. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Low Pass Filter location
Phil, I would place the low pass filter between the K2/100 and the KAT100 in any case. For any LPF to behave properly, it must be terminated in 50 ohms (or something close), and that is not realized with the LPF connected on the output of the KAT100. Any low pass filter worth its salt should not create any non-linearity - but again, if it is not properly terminated, the cutoff frequency may not be where you expect it to be. 73, Don W3FPR Phil Kane wrote: At present, I am using the K2/100 to feed a KAT100 antenna tuner. A 160m-10m dipole is connected to the KAT100 as ANT 1 through a low-pass filter and a dummy load is connected as ANT 2, controlled from the K2. I am in the process of installing another antenna (40m-10m vertical) as my prime antenna and the dipole will be my secondary antenna. For ease of operation I would install one as ANT 1 and the other as ANT 2. To take advantage of the low-pass filter for both antennas I am considering installing it between the K2/100 and the KAT2. My concern is with non-linear components in the KAT100 RF path that would generate harmonics and negate the advantage of the filter. Sampling diodes, as in a SWR bridge, are always suspect. If this is to be a problem, I would have to get a second filter, one for each antenna, which is something that I really don't want to do unless I have to. Anyone have words of wisdom based on practical experience? -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Issues and Enhancement Documents.
Dave, Download the latest K3 errata sheet - it has some of the information that you are seeking, but I fear, not all. 73, Don W3FPR David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: The end result though was a known issue. My point is, a lot of us would not be asking on the list and Elecraft would not be spending so much time responding to questions, if the known issues were available. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] It's their business ...
Well said, Ken; there is a list of outstanding firmware features included in the Errata to the Owner's Manual and that should be sufficient for the end user until Elecraft choose to make any further announcements about bug fixes, etc. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740107E_K3_owner's_man_errata_C1-3.pdf 73 David G4DMP In a recent message, Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... It's Elecraft's (Wayne & Eric) business to run as they see fit ... not "ours". There's no way they could ... or should ... respond to each and every one of "our" whims. -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: "It's their business." I question your stance.
I do not wish to get into a pg match, but I take exception to your stance. Further, I absolutely take the lead provided by the Elecraft principles, namely Wayne and Eric. Both of these gentlemen comment on the reflector on nearly a daily basis (probably more than daily). They respond to queries, they provide advice, and they seem (at least to me) to engage their customers and potential customers in a very up front and personal manner. This naturally leads to a dialog taking place on the Elecraft (their) reflector. They sure do seem to INVITE input at every turn. This (to me) seems only natural since they clearly and explicitly promote great customer service via the personal touch. Does this set them apart from all other Ham Radio transceiver manufacturers? I think so...and I'm thankful for it. I would venture to say that, despite their own postings that they can't communicate with everybody, that they have, in fact, had personal communication with many of us...maybe even "most" of us. Making suggestions for "fixes" or "enhancements" has not only been strongly (and again, explicitly) encouraged, it has resulted in firmware changes (and even panel layout changes) which is proudly shared with "us" customers via this reflector. This demonstrates (to me) super customer service and a strong desire to maintain the already established powerful relationship with their target market (us). The only chiding I have seen from these gents has been directed to those who are "not" Elecraft but nevertheless attempt to steer certain posts away. Eric has stated numerous times that it's his ball and that he is the "cop" on the beat here. It is even posted under the Elecraft List Guidelines. http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm I think that any suggestions from CUSTOMERS not only SHOULD be welcomed, but actually ARE welcomed by both Eric and Wayne. Their recognition of commerce as a two-way street is commendable and worthy of high praise. I laud their approach and their "stick-to-it-ness" on that front. Requesting that their self-acknowledged "list of enhancements/fixes" be made public is simply the act of highly engaged customers asking for an even closer relationship. It is not "telling" or "demanding" anything and, IMHO, it is NOT running "their business." As always, Wayne and Eric are free to accept such input or not. Equally, THEY are available to tell us to cram it or not. So far, I have only seen welcoming comments from these two gentlemen. Hence, I feel that all posters on the Elecraft reflector are justified in posting their wishes, desire, found faults, etc...all of which will only enhance the supplier-customer relationship. OK...putting my soapbox away for now. Respectfully submitted de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
I have tried semi-QSK, Mike, but still get the XV144 relay clatter at speeds less than about 24wpm. I can't find in the manual which config command I need to change the release delay. Can you point me to it please? I would like to stop the XV144 relays switching between Morse elements at 18-20wpm. 73 David G4DMP In a recent message, Mike Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... | I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays | clatter with every dot and dash which did not happen with the K2. I am | a bit worried that it can't be doing the XV144 relays much good. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we mixing up two delays here? Currently there isn't an adjustable "PTT on/carrier up" delay on the K3, this is the same for the K2, approx 10ms if I remember correctly. But did I not read that in semi break-in with the K3 you can adjust the release delay. That should stop the relays rattling. -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Purchase K3
My wife has no control whether or no I buy a K3. She has CONTROL over everything! So gentlemen watch your retirements, sneak and hide, stash and bury then hope to live long enough to get what you want. I have a delimma here now. I have a brand spanking new assembled by a pro K2. UNUSED or TESTED (deficit of skills comes with age)But not an iota of cash. So I am thinking of selling a Henry 3KA monster amp and the K2. I will get used to QRP. But what a shame to waste new 3-500 on the uninitiated. I really know. Years back I was Power Tube Manager at Amperex who invented the tube ( yeah I got them for free then -- now all my friends are dead and gone) The thought of list price really irritates. I will have two essential items left. A 50 ft rocket launcher and 42 ft of RBX crappo tower. AND a HyGainHyTower. There is at least one good antenna in there. Not gonna sell but leave them to the first post mortem digger! 73 Earl W7TK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] QSK Delay
To change the QSK "release" delay, fully depress the "mic/comp" control, it is labled "delay" below the control, then adjust the amount of delay until you nolonger have the relay "clatter". Doug, W6JD K2/100 #1626 K3/100 #23 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Low Pass Filter location
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:29:04 -0800, Vic K2VCO wrote: > Do you really have harmonic VHF TVI with the K2? Gosh, I hope not! But for the last 55 years of hamming I've lived in cities that had Channel 2, 5, and/or 6 stations, and although the vast majority of home TV sets are on cable or satellite feeds now, I'm still gun-shy. Having chased TVI for Uncle Sam for 30 years it would be very embarrassing for me to be the "culprit"! -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
In a message dated 2/6/08 2:59:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology > objectionable. Not to me. After all, aren’t we all about technology? No. While technology is a big part of ham radio, it's not the only thing. If it were, we'd have stopped using modes like CW, AM, FM and FSK RTTY long ago. We'd have channelized, ALE-type rigs, etc. Why would we hang > > around this forum if we weren't looking for a leg up. Just because someone > has found a tool to work a new one doesn’t mean anything except to the ham > that did it. That's fine in everyday operating. But in a competitive situation like a contest it's a different thing entirely, because competition is a mix of technology and operator skill. Some analogies: What if someone wanted to use a "hybrid" bicycle in the Tour de France? One that would store the energy from a downhill run to be released on an uphill climb? For that matter, why aren't mopeds allowed? I could probably win the Boston Marathon if they let me use roller skates (and everyone else didn't). Corked bats in baseball - super-distance golf balls - turbine-powered Indy cars - lots of ways technology can give someone an edge and change the game completely. There are times when I take out my homebrew DC receiver and a > > homebrew transmitter and pound away. There are times when I like to take my > KX-1 to Central Park. There are times when I have three or four ham programs > running all connected to my K3 during a contest. I do it because I want to > and because its fun. No problem with any of that. The question is, where is the line at which a contest station is no longer single-operator unassisted? If it wasn’t, I could go play golf (and really make > > myself miserable). > > They call it golf because all the other four-letter words were already taken. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Low Pass Filter location
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:35:45 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote: > I would place the low pass filter between the K2/100 and the > KAT100 in any case. For any LPF to behave properly, it must be > terminated in 50 ohms (or something close), and that is not > realized with the LPF connected on the output of the KAT100. I have been lucky so far, because the B&W Wideband Folded Dipole (a resistor with wires) is pretty flat within 1:1.2 over all bands if I can believe the antenna bridge. The Cushcraft R8 claims to be the same, but I have no experience with it. Putting the LPF between the TX and the tuner was my gut feeling and it does makes sense. > Any low pass filter worth its salt should not create any > non-linearity - It was the KAT100 that I was concerned with for non-linearity. > but again, if it is not properly terminated, the cutoff frequency > may not be where you expect it to be. How very true. Thanks for the feedback. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
With respect Dan I must agree with Julian G4ILO. As I see it, and to use your example, DSP and beams are the weapons used during the hunt, but the hunter must also know when to hunt, where to hunt and know how to approach the prey, skills gained through experience (apology to any DX who might read this!). The weapons can be purchased, but once you start to replace the skills with some form of 'automatic' system or crutch I believe that much of the appeal in working DX is lost. DX Clusters are bad enough IMHO. 73, Geoff GM4ESD (Who has been hunted) Romanchik Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier. Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those that don't have them. 73! Dan KB6NU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:07:38 +, you wrote: >I have tried semi-QSK, Mike, but still get the XV144 relay clatter at >speeds less than about 24wpm. I can't find in the manual which config >command I need to change the release delay. Can you point me to it >please? I would like to stop the XV144 relays switching between Morse >elements at 18-20wpm. > >73 > >David G4DMP Have you looked on page 15 of the Owner's Manual (Rev D, April 11, 2007) under "Transmit-Receive Switching Delay". Is that helpful to you? Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, G4ILO wrote: I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to. Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And if the big guns are instantly alerted to the presence of any DX on the band, it reduces the window of opportunity for the alert, but un-equipped with this program, little pistols. But, one needs to consider that for some, the game is all about winning, so any tool that allows that is far more important than other measures. I suspect that as long as there are competitions, there will be folks who produce and use tools that give them a competetive advantage. There may even be folks who stopped feeling the need to collect merit badges for their sashes after they ceased being teenagers. 73, k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Issues and Enhancements document
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: It Elecraft send me their bug / issues list, I will treat it confidential and put together an agreed (with them) page for the Wiki. If Elecraft really wanted to have such information posted, they could do it themseleves on their web site, or in the wikione one expect that they are organized enough to already have an internal list. Discounting the strawman argument of no time, one could take the position that they simply do no want to release the informationwhich is their right, since it's their product. One of the reasons the K3 wiki and forum was started was to allow K3 owners to contribute to the overall knowledge base, based on their experience and technical interests. So, if the company doesn't release the information and the users don't post it, the community might be thought of as mushrooms...waiting for the next release of nutrient. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: KX-1 antenna help
Dohn wrote, I am wondering what the groups opinions are about the best end fed antenna lengths would be for taking my newly built KX1 mobile? Dohn, a year or more ago I posted an article reporting my results with a (approx) 50 foot wire. Just re-capping here: I bought a nominally 50 ft roll of speaker wire from Radio Shack and un-zipped it to make two wires. When I measured it each wire was actually about 51 ft long - though I doubt the exact length is critical. In any case, I have used this antenna many times in many locations with very good results. I put one 51 ft length up as high as I can get it, usually as a sloper from my operating position to a tree (I usually tie some nylon masons twine to a half-filled water bottle and sling it as high as I can over a nearby tree) and the other 51 feet is layed along the ground as a counterpoise. Direction of the ground wire doesn't seem to matter. The KX-1 ATU does a fine job of matching this, and as I said, results have been great. By the way, if you're in an upper-story motel/hotel room, it also works to have the antenna wire going out the window to a bush in the parking lot (sloping downward) and the counterpoise wire just hanging downward from the window to the ground and then layed along the ground. I have fond memories of a front desk clerk near Hazelton, PA calling up to our 3rd floor room and saying, "may I ask what that string is that's going from your room window to the parking lot?" (I worked France with that "string") 73 Ray K2HYD KX-1 #608 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 (yada yada)
In a message dated 2/6/08 10:27:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The term "yada yada" became popular after its use in the tv comedy > show "Seinfeld". Not that there's anything wrong with that! 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030002548) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Noise Reduction in Data Modes
Just trying confirm this. The noise reduction function does not function while in any of the data modes? When I press NR, I get N/A on the VFO B display. Regards, Tedd K6OI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for information on connecting a computer headset's boom mic to the K3 rear mic jack. I've read through the archives, but it seems the messages either refer to making connections via the front jack (with its discrete pins available), or just, "I plugged it in & it worked." I don't have my K3 yet to test with. My following questions are based on the scenario that just plugging it in doesn't work. My mic plug is stereo, so I'm assuming its an electret. The K3's jack is mono, but apparently has a bias voltage available via the menu. I'd like to build a "dongle" (short adapter cable) to interface the mic with the jack. To preserve the headset, I don't want to modify its plug or cable. Does the bias voltage appear on the tip of the K3's jack? One archived message indicated that at least some computer mics have both the ring & tip connected together; I'm at work now & can't test mine. Would I add a resistor across the tip & ring lines, and add a small capacitor in-line from the K3's jack tip to the mic's tip to block DC? Sorry for what may be a painfully obvious set of questions, but I've never connected anything but a regular mic to a rig before. I plan on using the rear jacks to keep unnecessary cables from cluttering up the front of the rig. 73, Mike KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Mike, I could not find out from the manual how the rear mic jack is configured ( whether bias is on tip or ring) but I just plugged in a computer mic and it works fine; and I am using a PTT foot switch. Perhaps it was just luck that the computer mic had the same setup as the K3 mic jack. It would still be nice to know how the K3 mic jack is configured for tip/ring/sleeve. Getting good audio reports with the computer mic. Dale K5AJZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
Sorry, but I still don't see this program as any different than any other technical gadgetry that hams use to increase their scores during a contest. But just for argument's sake, and because you mentioned skills, how about keyers?? Keyers have taken a lot of the skill out of sending CW, no? Shouldn't we outlaw them? 73! Dan KB6NU -- CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator Read my ham radio blog at http://www.kb6nu.com LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO! On Feb 6, 2008, at Feb 6, 6:53 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: With respect Dan I must agree with Julian G4ILO. As I see it, and to use your example, DSP and beams are the weapons used during the hunt, but the hunter must also know when to hunt, where to hunt and know how to approach the prey, skills gained through experience (apology to any DX who might read this!). The weapons can be purchased, but once you start to replace the skills with some form of 'automatic' system or crutch I believe that much of the appeal in working DX is lost. DX Clusters are bad enough IMHO. 73, Geoff GM4ESD (Who has been hunted) Romanchik Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier. Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those that don't have them. 73! Dan KB6NU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection
The mic jack on the RP is a stereo jack. You should use a stereo plug with audio on the tip and ground on the sleeve...nothing on the ring. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale LeStourgeon Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm looking for information on connecting a computer headset's boom mic to the K3 rear mic jack. I've read through the archives, but it seems the messages either refer to making connections via the front jack (with its discrete pins available), or just, "I plugged it in & it worked." I don't have my K3 yet to test with. My following questions are based on the scenario that just plugging it in doesn't work. > > My mic plug is stereo, so I'm assuming its an electret. The K3's jack is mono, but apparently has a bias voltage available via the menu. I'd like to build a "dongle" (short adapter cable) to interface the mic with the jack. To preserve the headset, I don't want to modify its plug or cable. > > Does the bias voltage appear on the tip of the K3's jack? One archived message indicated that at least some computer mics have both the ring & tip connected together; I'm at work now & can't test mine. Would I add a resistor across the tip & ring lines, and add a small capacitor in-line from the K3's jack tip to the mic's tip to block DC? > > Sorry for what may be a painfully obvious set of questions, but I've never connected anything but a regular mic to a rig before. I plan on using the rear jacks to keep unnecessary cables from cluttering up the front of the rig. > > 73, > > Mike > KW1ND > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Mike, I could not find out from the manual how the rear mic jack is configured ( whether bias is on tip or ring) but I just plugged in a computer mic and it works fine; and I am using a PTT foot switch. Perhaps it was just luck that the computer mic had the same setup as the K3 mic jack. It would still be nice to know how the K3 mic jack is configured for tip/ring/sleeve. Getting good audio reports with the computer mic. Dale K5AJZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Noise Reduction in Data Modes
That is correct. NR is not available in data modes. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tedd Wong Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:22 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Noise Reduction in Data Modes Just trying confirm this. The noise reduction function does not function while in any of the data modes? When I press NR, I get N/A on the VFO B display. Regards, Tedd K6OI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection
On Feb 6, 2008 8:35 PM, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The mic jack on the RP is a stereo jack. You should use a stereo plug with > audio on the tip and ground on the sleeve...nothing on the ring. > > 73 > Greg > AB7R > Roger. The K3 schematic shows no connection to the ring terminal on the rear jack. And the mic bias, if selected, is applied to the line which connects to the tip. Seems like a typical sound card has five volts in the ring, and takes its input from the tip. Dave W5DHM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer
OK...here it is in a nutshell. 1. CW Skimmer will profoundly change serious-level contesting forever 2. Serious contesters use two radios at once (called SO2R or single op, 2 radios). While they CQ on one band (using a memory keyer...voice or cw), they TUNE a 2nd band, looking for additional contacts, using their 2nd radio. This is very intense contesting and require super-human concentration and skill to be really successful. It means that you are constantly switching focus from the Radio A to Radio B (the switching is automatic, controlled by the contest software). 3. Currently, tuning the 2nd band is a manual process, requiring one to (a) find stations between CQs on the other band, and (b) copy who it is and (c) then decide if you need it or not and if you do, (d) work it while not "losing" your "RUN" frequency (the first radio frequency where you are CQing and working guys who answer your CQs). 4. With CW Skimmer, one no longer has to use their skill to (a) tune the 2nd band and (b) figure out who it is. The computer does this for youand all at once for the whole band. 5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of who has the best set of HUMAN skills...skills at using their equipment, but mostly skills at copying callsigns and working guys and tuning a second radio and doing the same. With CW Skimmer, the "second radio" skill is effectively eliminated. The computer does it for you. This is VERY FAR from DSP, or a yagi, or an amp, or an electronic keyer because. Those things made CHORES easier. This thing makes the only human element left (tuning the band and finding callsign) meaningless. It eliminates the HUMAN element. All you need now is a clerk to "point and shoot" or "point and click" whatever you want to call it. 6. With this "tool," a single op can now be SO6R and have a CW SKimmer on every band. Someone will write a script so that multipliers bubble up as found...and even non-mults, but new Q's, will be easily flagged (and worked). YOu wont have to "waste" time tuning and copying the callsign of stuff that you already worked. 7. CW decoders (such as included on Elecraft K3) only copy one signal, which YOU tuned to. This thing does the whole band at once. 8. Yes, it is like an "automatic" packet/internet band-mapping tool, except that use of those places one in the "Assisted" or "unlimited" category, separate and apart from "single op all band." Under the current rules for all contest, the addition of CW Skimmer will NOT cause a change in category away from Single Op All Band to the Assisted or Unlimited category. How could it? Nobody else is helping you get the callsigns. 9. For many, especially those who feel that "packet ruined contesting" or that "packet ruined DXing," this may turn out to be the "packet ruined contesting" of the 21st century. As many have pointed out (if you want to read A LOT on this, go to the CQ-Contest Reflector: www.contesting.com ), with this "tool," there is currently no way to tell if the guy has a 2nd op in the shack, is using packet, or is using CW SKimmer. It makes adjudication a nightmare (probably, impossible). 10. Serious SOAB contesters have long done everything possible to keep their category separate and apart from packet/internet users. They want to keep the category "pure." This will make that job very, very difficult. Why keep it "out?" The same reason sailboat races do not allow engines/motors. The same reason why the Daytona 500 does not allow jet engines to be used. The same reason why people climb mountains instead of taking a helicopter. The same reason why some folks only Bow-Hunt. Sorry for the bandwidth, but there seems to be a fair about of interest in this topic. Hope this helps paint a clearer picture. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [OT] Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
In a message dated 2/6/08 4:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A substantial proportion of people are naturally conservative. They don't > react well to things being changed. > > Another substantial proportion of people are naturally progressive. I would say "change oriented". All progress involves change, but all change does not involve progress. > > These two forces are in a never-ending circular dance of engagement, even > struggle. This is basically the thesis-antithesis-synthesis process of > Hegelian dialectic, if you remember your Philosophy 101. If either side, > thesis or antithesis, becomes all-powerful, the dialectic process is > subverted > and things tend to go wrong eventually. I think there is a third kind of person: the one who is balanced between the two forces. > This is because Nature does have a slight built-in bias in favor of change. > > It's called adaptation. An individual, a species, even life collectively > either adapts or eventually becomes extinct. Nothing stays the same forever. > > Stasis is not an option in this universe. > I don't think we know anywhere near enough about the Universe to say that. Some forms of life here on earth have remained unchanged for tens of millions of years, if not longer, because they were and are well-adapted. Others have changed radically in much shorter times (domesticated animals, for example) because it was adaptive to do so. The laws of nature don't seem to change over time - we assume that they are the same since the Big Bang. One law of nature that is too often forgotten is the Law of Unintended Consequences. When one has run afoul of that Law, one tends to be a little cautious. > This small bit of potentially relevant philosophy is brought to you as a > brief respite from the ravages of taking some things in our wonderful hobby > way too seriously. :-) > I am seriously tempted to quote the Philosophy Song from Monty Python, but I will leave that for the reader to look up. Instead I will say this: Contesting and DXing are essentially competitive games many of us hams play because we think they are fun. And like any game, most of the rules are arbitrary. And it's not life-or-death if a rule is broken, or stretched. But that does not mean the rukes should not be taken seriously! Just the reverse. --- Some posts back I made a reference to a QST fiction article from 1953 about a ham who built a totally automated SS contest station. It was science-fiction back then, but not so fictional today. In fact, it may actually be possible today. We already have Pactor "robots" on the ham bands.(not going there!) What if someone actually built a completely automatic contest station? One that could keep pace with the very best contest ops, would never get tired or make a mistake, would listen to every band simultaneously and analyze far more data than any human could to maximize score, would access an enormous database of info, etc., etc. Should such a station be allowed to compete in the same entry class with stations that actually need an operator? IOW, where is the line drawn? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: computer headset connection
Well, interesting. As Greg suggested, I'll definitely try it before I worry about wiring up an adapter. That was handy of Aptos to use a stereo jack with the ring not connected, thus keeping a stereo plug from shorting the ring to ground if the jack were mono, and yet allowing a mono plug to also work. I was trying to get a jump ahead, but I guess I'll just wait a couple more weeks and give it a try. Thanks for the responses. 73, Mike KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer
In a word, YUCK! Neal WA6OCP K3/10/305 DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: > > OK...here it is in a nutshell. > > 1. CW Skimmer will profoundly change serious-level contesting forever > > 2. Serious contesters use two radios at once (called SO2R or single > op, 2 radios). While they CQ on one band (using a memory > keyer...voice or cw), they TUNE a 2nd band, looking for additional > contacts, using their 2nd radio. This is very intense contesting and > require super-human concentration and skill to be really successful. > It means that you are constantly switching focus from the Radio A to > Radio B (the switching is automatic, controlled by the contest > software). > > 3. Currently, tuning the 2nd band is a manual process, requiring one > to (a) find stations between CQs on the other band, and (b) copy who > it is and (c) then decide if you need it or not and if you do, (d) > work it while not "losing" your "RUN" frequency (the first radio > frequency where you are CQing and working guys who answer your CQs). > > 4. With CW Skimmer, one no longer has to use their skill to (a) tune > the 2nd band and (b) figure out who it is. The computer does this for > youand all at once for the whole band. > > 5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of > who has the best set of HUMAN skills...skills at using their > equipment, but mostly skills at copying callsigns and working guys and > tuning a second radio and doing the same. With CW Skimmer, the > "second radio" skill is effectively eliminated. The computer does it > for you. This is VERY FAR from DSP, or a yagi, or an amp, or an > electronic keyer because. Those things made CHORES easier. This > thing makes the only human element left (tuning the band and finding > callsign) meaningless. It eliminates the HUMAN element. All you need > now is a clerk to "point and shoot" or "point and click" whatever you > want to call it. > > 6. With this "tool," a single op can now be SO6R and have a CW > SKimmer on every band. Someone will write a script so that > multipliers bubble up as found...and even non-mults, but new Q's, will > be easily flagged (and worked). YOu wont have to "waste" time tuning > and copying the callsign of stuff that you already worked. > > 7. CW decoders (such as included on Elecraft K3) only copy one > signal, which YOU tuned to. This thing does the whole band at once. > > 8. Yes, it is like an "automatic" packet/internet band-mapping tool, > except that use of those places one in the "Assisted" or "unlimited" > category, separate and apart from "single op all band." Under the > current rules for all contest, the addition of CW Skimmer will NOT > cause a change in category away from Single Op All Band to the > Assisted or Unlimited category. How could it? Nobody else is helping > you get the callsigns. > > 9. For many, especially those who feel that "packet ruined > contesting" or that "packet ruined DXing," this may turn out to be the > "packet ruined contesting" of the 21st century. As many have pointed > out (if you want to read A LOT on this, go to the CQ-Contest > Reflector: www.contesting.com ), with this "tool," there is > currently no way to tell if the guy has a 2nd op in the shack, is > using packet, or is using CW SKimmer. It makes adjudication a > nightmare (probably, impossible). > > 10. Serious SOAB contesters have long done everything possible to > keep their category separate and apart from packet/internet users. > They want to keep the category "pure." This will make that job very, > very difficult. > > Why keep it "out?" The same reason sailboat races do not allow > engines/motors. The same reason why the Daytona 500 does not allow > jet engines to be used. The same reason why people climb mountains > instead of taking a helicopter. The same reason why some folks only > Bow-Hunt. > > Sorry for the bandwidth, but there seems to be a fair about of > interest in this topic. > > Hope this helps paint a clearer picture. > > de Doug KR2Q > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-THIS-is-the-big-deal-about-CW-Skimmer-tp15326081p15326264.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer
At 09:05 PM 2/6/2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote... 5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of who has the best set of HUMAN skills... Hams have (as a whole) always embraced new technology, but there are probably some still complaining that heterodynes are unfair competition for their spark gaps and crystal receivers. Then why do you use electronic equipment? Why a K3 and not a Altoids tin special? Perhaps smoke signals or shouting would be a better test. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer
All debates aside, Alex VE3NEA cranks out some true amazing software! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WA6OCP Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Mike S wrote: At 09:05 PM 2/6/2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote... 5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of who has the best set of HUMAN skills... Hams have (as a whole) always embraced new technology, but there are probably some still complaining that heterodynes are unfair competition for their spark gaps and crystal receivers. Soon the qso will read something like: k3 here, observer is thom. I know you copy this, so don't bother to answer. No need for signal reports, send electronic QSL. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: Contest Rules and Technology
All contests depend on a lot of people wanting to participate. The contest organizers all know if the rules are such that only a few are able and willing to participate there will be few contacts and no one will have fun. We all know that technology will not stop or even slow down for the sake of contests. If you want to enter a contest where only straight keys are allowed, there is such a contest. ARRL has Straight Key Night every year and the SKCC sponsors such contests. They are fun and I enter them. CQ and the ARRL also sponsor some very big contests and they change the rules as they find necessary to keep up the entry level. Large entry levels are the organizers objective rather than huge scores by a few. The organizers can and will change the rules so that a particular piece of software does not ruin the fun for the masses. Even the big guns don't want to get rid of the little pistols and the casual entries who only want to make a few contacts. What big gun wants to enter a contest where he can only contact the other big guns that he has already worked a dozen times? I don't know how the problem will be solved, but contesting has survived SSB, packet clusters, memory keyers, computer logging and many other advancements that had a much greater impact than this nice piece of software. Cookie, K5EWJ, Little Pistol and designated contest also entered. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW Skimmer [END of thread]
Let's let the CW skimmer discussion rest for now. We've skimmed off all the meaningful comments... ;-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator _..._ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KPA-100 oscillation problem
I've been fighting an oscillation problem with one of my K2/100's for a few years now. My other K2/100 does not have the problem at all. Here is what happens: Specifically on 7 MHz and when connected to an ICE model 419 bandpass filter, the KPA-100 has some kind of oscillation. I can tell it is there because I hear a little "tick" after letting up on the key. When sending cw, it often causes the K2 to reset and/or show the hi-swr warning. Twice I have managed to blow the microprocessor in the KIO2 attached to this K2! Other observations: 1) it only occurs with the filter in line. If I switch the filter offline the problem goes away completely. 2) it is not a defective filter. I have two of the 419's, and both cause the same problem. I have tried tuning them, etc. 3) it is not a rf-in-shack problem. It occurs with just the radio, filter, and a dummy load in line 4) I notice the tick in the keying as soon as the power hits 11W and the KPA is switched in line. Even when set at 11W it can cause the K2 to reset. 5) it only occurs on 7 MHz 6) it only occurs with one of my two K2/100's I have put in the KPA upgrade with no change. I just tried the C31 mod, no change either. Any ideas where to look in the KPA circuitry? For contesting I really need to be able to use bandpass filters with the K2. Tor N4OGW/5 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-100 oscillation problem
> the K2 to reset and/or show the hi-swr warning. Twice I have managed to blow > the > microprocessor in the KIO2 attached to this K2! > Meant to say that I have blown the cpu in the KRC2 twice... Tor N4OGW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-100 oscillation problem: fixed
After some more searching through various cures online, I think I have fixed it. I added a 300 ohm 2W resistor to the input, that seemed to stop the problem. Tor N4OGW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New concept/tool for CW dxing
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 15:53, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > ... once you start to replace the > skills with some form of 'automatic' system or crutch I believe that much of > the appeal in working DX is lost. DX Clusters are bad enough IMHO. > > 73, > Geoff > GM4ESD > (Who has been hunted) I must admit that I lost interest in DXing when the DX clusters became popular. Seems like they devalue operator skill. Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] See you at the Orlando Hamfest this weekend
I'm flying to Orlando tomorrow for the Hamcation hamfest this weekend. I hope to see you all at the Elecraft booth! Feel free to stop by and visit, ask questions or chat with other Elecraft enthusiasts (or soon to be enthusiasts..) 73, Eric WA6HHQ -- _..._ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com