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Re: [Emc-users] disty game to fight .... warming ....

2017-05-22 Thread giorgio foga

I undertand Thanks.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>

Giorgio
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>


<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>


<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)

Blue Whale (game) - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>
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The term Blue Whale game (Russian: Синий кит, Siniy kit) refers to a trend on 
Russian-speaking social media, linked to a possible increase in child and ...





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Inviato: lunedì 22 maggio 2017 12.20
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On 22.05.17 19:40, Pavel G. Kasyanenko wrote:
> On 22.05.2017 18:48, giorgio foga wrote:
> > In Russia 157 suicides documented in 2 years.
>
> Please proof.

And on another mailing list too, please.

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] disty game to fight .... warming ....

2017-05-22 Thread giorgio foga

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)

Blue Whale (game) - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_(game)>
en.wikipedia.org
The term Blue Whale game (Russian: Синий кит, Siniy kit) refers to a trend on 
Russian-speaking social media, linked to a possible increase in child and ...



I do not want to offend anyone is clear.
I am Italian and here also I agree with the Russians.
I heard the news yesterday and the Italian police agree.
On Russian numbers I can not say anything  but you can give better news. If 
you know it's a lie please calm me.

Thanks a lot Pavel Kasyanenko expecially if you can give me more extensive and 
better documented news.

regards
giorgio





Da: Pavel G. Kasyanenko <pk...@mail.ru>
Inviato: lunedì 22 maggio 2017 11.40
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On 22.05.2017 18:48, giorgio foga wrote:
> In Russia 157 suicides documented in 2 years.

Please proof.


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[Emc-users] disty game to fight .... warming ....

2017-05-22 Thread giorgio foga

I'm not the type of person to do these type of mail ... but I was impressed 
when I knew, especially for the possible developments of
this kind of thing (I think of the possible trade of a gaming platform or worse 
than that).
I do not know if I'm late to tell this to the users. But it does not matter. I 
mean.

I knew there was a game on the social network called Blue Whale ... but I guess 
it will soon change its name ...
which drives little boys from 9 to 17 ... naive ... to suicide.
This gic is perverse, play with the fragile psychology of boys who hide in 
playing with their parents.
Use their smartphones ...
In Italy a case was found in January ... but another 4 suicide attempts 
reported this week.

In Russia 157 suicides documented in 2 years.

Now the game has made victims in England and France from what I understand.

It is also turning in brazil ...

It is a fact that in agile nations among the youngest fashioners it becomes a 
petty craze as a transgression 
these small cuts in the game are proof of loyalty to the game itself.

I think we all could do something for that.
Starting with more control of our children and grandchildren. Especially those 
who are very experienced in programming.

I hope I have been able to express myself in a comprehensible manner and have 
been alerted in a useful way.


Giorgio

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Re: [Emc-users] 3 d metal printer

2017-05-20 Thread giorgio foga

2 years ago some israelian guy make a 3d metal print tecnology ink-jet type.


regards

giorgio



Da: a k 
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] 3 d metal printer

here is more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnS1bUXFtA
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.Dp7ZQdFr1jX7Xdl1ORmS1gEsCo=Api]

3D Printing Stainless Steel with Giant Robot 
Arms
www.youtube.com
ruaut.ru



On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:41 AM, a k  wrote:

> hi
> i found this
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOarxQRKW9o
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.oSneaAxz0aVzA6w4M9ldiwEsCo=Api]

Weld3D Affordable Metal Printing
www.youtube.com
The Weld3D Model to Metal 3D printing process.


> that is exactly that i try to build 4 years ago
>
> programming to create tool/welder path is done by Autodesk
> search on youtube and you will find it
> i may be able to deposit similar part in several weeks time. it is good to
> know that it all doable and linuxcnc can be used for it.
>
> thanks
> aram
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-20 Thread giorgio foga

Thanks a lot for the links ... so your robot is mobile robot ... actually I 
work on 4 scara that make pik working over a running belt .. I use master 
Lcnc for control robot and opencv3 for targhet ... so qt interface manage the 
data and send to scara. Pik working it have max velocity at 110mt/min, so 
opencv work on i7 + opencl ... actually data on Lcnc is receive from user comp 
fast rtu modbus but these is limited way to do these things ... so realtime 
ethernet may be an alternative. I use ultrasonc sensor too as no-impact system 
 but an alghorith is a better solution ... need cartesian position of 4 
robot (realtime) and resend permitted / not-permitted position  on 
kinematis is quite simply stop the mouvement without break the buffered 
planning of motion  not shure realtime ethernet is fast enought for make 
these type of work  (bring 4 vector3d data 100-500usec + 100-500usec for 
computing + 100-500usec for send data . may be the transmission worck x10 
too slow).

Alghoritm is on progress 

About your great work, I think I study these things ... very nice.

regards

giorgio

Da: Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>

Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2017 23.17
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:01 AM, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
wrote:

>
> I'm using Linux and one other open source Real Time OS ("mbed" a layer over
> Keil RTX) in a line of robots.  Using my machine tools to build parts for
> same.
>
>
>
> So you use these kernel for control a multiple robot  but the single
> robot use is own controller or even the controller is open source ??
>
>
> Is very interesting these info  Actually I control  multiple robot
> using userspace Qt code  and I project to convert my app into
> Qt-userspace + Qt RTAI (split my app in 2 different thread) ... with
> rt-ethernet for sending controlling messages ... and the mechanism of your
> system using Keil RTX (similar to rtos if understand it well).
>
> My robot's target behavior is to wander around and take photos, recognize
what it sees in those photos and remember that in a database.   Later you
can ask it questions and give it simple commands based on the database.
The research goals is to combine Convolutional Neural Networks for object
recognition with a "logic database" (or "expert system") based on Prolog.
So the robot is able to reason about what it sees.

It uses three levels of controller running on three different computers
1) Real-time controller - Handles (A) the four servo motors that drive the
wheels via gearboxes, (B)the IMU to measure rates of turn, accretions and
so on and (3) ultrasonic sensors for obstacle detection.   This runs on ARM
Cortex M4 and use mbed and RTX
2) Navigation control.  Handle "SLAM" algorithm so robot "knows" where it
is on the map.  Uses a depth camera (microsoft Kinect) and wheel odometry
and the IMU.  This controller is a Raspberry Pi 3 running Ubuntu and ROS.
3) The database, image recognizer and user interface -  Also runs
Ubuntu,and ROS but uses a server class multi-core Intel machine with a fast
GPU (used for computation, not display)  This computer does not fit on the
mobile platform but connects to the Raspberry Pi via WiFi
There are several user interfaces but If the robot must be teleoperate
there is "rviz" http://wiki.ros.org/rviz
rviz - ROS Wiki<http://wiki.ros.org/rviz>
wiki.ros.org
User Documentation. User Guide. Troubleshooting. Built-in Display Types. Basic 
Shapes API Wrapper - rviz_visual_tools. Tutorials. Markers: Sending Basic 
Shapes (C++)

If you are controlling robot without using ROS you are working to hard
http://www.ros.org/about-ros/
ROS.org | About ROS<http://www.ros.org/about-ros/>
www.ros.org
The Robot Operating System (ROS) is a flexible framework for writing robot 
software. It is a collection of tools, libraries, and conventions that aim to 
simplify the ...

Keil RTX is a free (but very professional) implementation of the CMSIS-RTX
standard.  I don't use that directly.  These is a C++ layer over that that
gives "Arduino-like" ease of use and better portability.  The layer is
called "mbed" and like Arduino comes with an IDE.   Actually it comes with
multiple IDEs, one is web based, good for experiments and one is a local
CLI based one that you can run inside Eclipse if you like.
See these links for more details:
RTX: http://www2.keil.com/mdk5/cmsis/rtx
CMSIS-RTOS RTX<http://www2.keil.com/mdk5/cmsis/rtx>
www2.keil.com
CMSIS-RTOS RTX is a royalty-free, deterministic real-time operating system 
implementing the CMSIS-RTOS API, a generic RTOS interface for Cortex-M 
processor-based devices.

mbed: https://www.mbed.com/en/platform/mbed-os/
mbed OS | mbed<https://w

Re: [Emc-users] rtai 5 for kernel 4.4

2017-05-20 Thread giorgio foga

real tanks...

Da: Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2017 17.46
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On 05/18/2017 10:33 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> I try to use rt-preempt with some satisfaction un ubuntu 14.04 kernel
> 4.4 and on linuxmint same kernel  now I read on rtai site that
> rtai 5.0 is possible to compile on kernel linux 4.4 ... so the
> automatic question is: Is possible install linuxcnc rtai 5.0 on
> kernel 4.4 (exe. linux mint) ?? But before spending half a day just
> to browse, I would like to know if someone has already had results.

I've build RTAI 5.0 for Linux 4.1.  Debs here:

deb http://highlab.com/~seb/rtai/5.0-debs/ jessie main
deb-src http://highlab.com/~seb/rtai/5.0-debs/ jessie main

These debs work with linuxcnc, but there's a race condition on module
unload and sometimes it hangs when quitting linuxcnc.  I've reproduced
the problem using the RTAI test suite (ie, without any linuxcnc code)
and I've submitted a bug report to rtai.org, but so far no one has found
the bug.  Until that bug is fixed we can not ship this kernel, or a
linuxcnc version based on it, to our users.

If you want to try it, you'll have to build linuxcnc from source
yourself.  Both 2.7 and master (2.8-pre) should work.

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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

If you have ubuntu or debian (better last stable ubuntu 16.04) you can download 
it from repo with deb file without issue ... Not shure, because in my pc there 
are python 2.7 and 3.x ... but seems nee some module from 2.7.


regards

giorgio



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Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2017 07.28
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

Looks good. I read the list of features and so on.  Pulled current version
from GitHub and now I am trying to make it run.

Seems the installer missed some stuff .  I get this when I run pycam:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pycam", line 4, in 
__import__('pkg_resources').run_script('pycam==0.6.2.dev0', 'pycam')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
719, in run_script
self.require(requires)[0].run_script(script_name, ns)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
1511, in run_script
exec(script_code, namespace, namespace)
  File
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pycam-0.6.2.dev0-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/pycam",
line 53, in 

ImportError: No module named Exporters.GCodeExporter


On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
wrote:

> On 05/18/2017 05:27 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > So yes, I really would like to see a linux based end to end CAD/AM
> > workflow.   It appears the one just barely exists for 3D printing.  There
> > are 3D modelers and drafting tools (Blender and FreeCAD) but the missing
> > link is g-code generation to drive 3D metal cutting tools.
>
> Give PyCAM a try:  https://github.com/sebkuzminsky/pycam
[https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/400548?v=3=400]

GitHub - SebKuzminsky/pycam
github.com
Contribute to pycam development by creating an account on GitHub.


>
> It does 2d and 3d path generation, it's entirely open source, it runs on
> Linux and plays well with LinuxCNC.
>
> Here's a 2d example:
>
> http://highlab.com/~seb/blog//2017/02/23/open-source-cad-cam-mc/
An open source CAD/CAM/MC toolchain 
demo
highlab.com
Occasional Public Thoughts.


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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

Sorry Sir Sebastian,

I take the chance to ask you ...

In your git I see fork of Lcnc rtai  on rtai sites write rtai 5.0 support 
linux kernel 4.4  is possible make Lcnc works on that kernel and that rtai??

I ask these because I'm not a kernel genius ... I probably will spend two or 
tree days ... so I wanted to know if it's worth spending.

regards

giorgio

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On 05/18/2017 05:27 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> So yes, I really would like to see a linux based end to end CAD/AM
> workflow.   It appears the one just barely exists for 3D printing.  There
> are 3D modelers and drafting tools (Blender and FreeCAD) but the missing
> link is g-code generation to drive 3D metal cutting tools.

Give PyCAM a try:  https://github.com/sebkuzminsky/pycam
[https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/400548?v=3=400]

GitHub - SebKuzminsky/pycam
github.com
Contribute to pycam development by creating an account on GitHub.

It does 2d and 3d path generation, it's entirely open source, it runs on
Linux and plays well with LinuxCNC.

Here's a 2d example:

http://highlab.com/~seb/blog//2017/02/23/open-source-cad-cam-mc/
An open source CAD/CAM/MC toolchain 
demo
highlab.com
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

I'm using Linux and one other open source Real Time OS ("mbed" a layer over
Keil RTX) in a line of robots.  Using my machine tools to build parts for
same.

So you use these kernel for control a multiple robot  but the single robot 
use is own controller or even the controller is open source ??

Is very interesting these info  Actually I control  multiple robot using 
userspace Qt code  and I project to convert my app into Qt-userspace + Qt 
RTAI (split my app in 2 different thread) ... with rt-ethernet for sending 
controlling messages ... and the mechanism of your system using Keil RTX 
(similar to rtos if understand it well).

regards

giorgio

Da: Chris Albertson 
Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2017 01.27
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

I'm a long-tine Linux user, staring in the mid1990's when Linux was
distributed on a set of floppy disks.  Before that I remember BSD UNIX and
yes even "Multics".Anyone else remember how the name "Unix" was a an
editorial comment about Multics?  That was in the 1980's

I've been a full-time user of Linux-like software going back maybe 15 year
before Linux was written.

I'm using Linux and one other open source Real Time OS ("mbed" a layer over
Keil RTX) in a line of robots.  Using my machine tools to build parts for
same.

So yes, I really would like to see a linux based end to end CAD/AM
workflow.   It appears the one just barely exists for 3D printing.  There
are 3D modelers and drafting tools (Blender and FreeCAD) but the missing
link is g-code generation to drive 3D metal cutting tools.

The current stat of the art with Linux CAM is about where it was with PCB
design before Cern tool over KiCAD.  It was possible but not really
practical.

I doubt things will change until some one with loads of cash and no need to
earn money adopts Linux based CAM and pays a full-time staff of engineers
to work on it for a few years.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Layne 
wrote:

> As I mentioned in my previous too-long email, Simplify3D is a slicing
> program (more of a complete 3D printing CAM program) that runs natively
> under Linux.  I lean strongly in favor of Free Open Source Software, and
> there are very good options as Andy mentioned, but I thought it was
> worth paying

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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

I try it  but not send any generated gcode to my mill... so not well tested.

it seems to work.


regards

giorgio


Da: andy pugh 
Inviato: giovedì 18 maggio 2017 23.54
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

On 19 May 2017 at 00:22, Chris Albertson  wrote:
>   Last time I tried to use all open
> source tools I was stuck at the point where I have a 3D design but could
> not turn that file into g-code.

You definitely can do that last step with PyCAM, but you would need to
be rather patient for 3D milling.

PyCAM does actually feel moderately polished, it is just that the 3D
algorithms were impractically slow last time I tried it.

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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

Probabily you are in right ... because from when I discover FreeCad every 6 
mouth more or less... I try to install it on fresh ubuntu install and use it 
 the last time (2 mount ago) I've upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 and re-install 
FreeCad.

The menus respond better and more immediately (with the same hardware) ... sign 
that the software has been reviewed well  I do not know anything about 
FreeCam ... so I try it.

regards
giorgio

Da: Bruce Layne 
Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2017 00.04
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

I've been using FreeCAD for 3D printing, where the entire tool chain
exists.  I haven't used it yet to produce G code for LinuxCNC to make
metal chips.  I'd say we're finally getting close to an open source
CAD/CAM solution.  The CAD is just recently usable for decent sized
projects.  I'm using it for production work for 3D printing. You
probably wouldn't want to design a large assembly with FreeCAD quite
yet, but for smaller assemblies and parts of medium complexity, it seems
quite good.  Not 100% (make intermediate backups of your work), but
close enough for my needs.  I've been intermittently following open
source CAD/CAM tools for many years. I'd say FreeCAD became a usable
tool for most users within the last several months.

The CAM solution isn't quite ready for FreeCAD, although FreeCAM is an
active open source project and work is progressing.  I'm eager for
FreeCAM to be a useful tool.  FreeCAD can output to a very large number
of file formats.  If you already have a CAM tool you like, there's a
good chance FreeCAD can produce a file that your CAM software can input.
PyCAM will input STL files produced by FreeCAD, but I haven't tried
generating G code and milling any parts.

Huge thanks to all of the developers who produce these wonderful
software tools that greatly enhance our lives and our productivity,
whether it's LinuxCNC, FreeCAD, FreeCAM, etc.

> On 05/18/2017 05:22 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
>> Just one question:   Have you been able to make it work?  That is,
>> design a
>> project in FreeCAD that has a few simple parts then produce g-code from
>> those design files and actually make the part using EMC/Machine kit.
>>
>> Could you tell us the workflow you use?   And can it make full 3D
>> parts on
>> a four axis mill or is this limited to (say) 2 1/2 D parts?
>>
>> If there really is a simple workflow that goes from drawings to metal
>> with
>> linux I'd like to  give it a try.Last time I tried to use all open
>> source tools I was stuck at the point where I have a 3D design but could
>> not turn that file into g-code.   Maybe things have changed now?
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

Thanks I'll spend some time ...


regards

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Da: Bruce Layne <linux...@thinkingdevices.com>
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As I mentioned in my previous too-long email, Simplify3D is a slicing
program (more of a complete 3D printing CAM program) that runs natively
under Linux.  I lean strongly in favor of Free Open Source Software, and
there are very good options as Andy mentioned, but I thought it was
worth paying US$150 for Simplify3D, even though Autodesk apparently
believes that Linux users won't pay for software.  So far, I like
Simplify3D very much.  It gives me a lot of control over how objects are
3D printed.  I can easily set different rules for different layers of
the 3D print, add support structures automatically or manually, etc.  It
manages to be very powerful and very easy to use.

Disclaimer:  I have no commercial affiliation with Simplify3D.  I'm just
a happy customer.



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>> On 18 May 2017, at 18:21, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
>>
>> My question was a kind of update I had from everyone on current linux 
>> programs that can convert a cad file to gcode format for an FDM printer
> If you have the CAD file then the options are _far_ less limited. I think 
> that just about all the slicers run under Linux. Look at Cura and Sic3r for 
> just two examples.
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-19 Thread giorgio foga

3d part for shure  but not able to associate it onto assembly part  
only for lear to make one 3d part i spent a day!!! is not so immediate 
understand FreeCad mechanism of work ..


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Da: Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
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Just one question:   Have you been able to make it work?  That is, design a
project in FreeCAD that has a few simple parts then produce g-code from
those design files and actually make the part using EMC/Machine kit.

Could you tell us the workflow you use?   And can it make full 3D parts on
a four axis mill or is this limited to (say) 2 1/2 D parts?

If there really is a simple workflow that goes from drawings to metal with
linux I'd like to  give it a try.Last time I tried to use all open
source tools I was stuck at the point where I have a 3D design but could
not turn that file into g-code.   Maybe things have changed now?



If you do have a full concept to metal cutting work flow

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:57 AM, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
wrote:

> you are in right  but it is my surprise on that  any how ... I
> have a cad system on office ... but I use FreeCad too with some difficult
> but it work great (never use for big project) ... my ideal it is to have
> all pc on linux ... is a bad things? because the question.
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio
>
>
> 
> Da: andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
> Inviato: martedì 16 maggio 2017 23.09
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>
> On 16 May 2017 at 19:05, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Autodesk Fusion is 3D CAD software for making 3D designs.
>
> It's great, suspiciously so. But it does't run on Linux, which was a
> requirement in the original post.
>
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[Emc-users] rtai 5 for kernel 4.4

2017-05-18 Thread giorgio foga

I try to use rt-preempt with some satisfaction un ubuntu 14.04 kernel 4.4 and 
on linuxmint same kernel  now I read on rtai site that rtai 5.0 is possible 
to compile on kernel linux 4.4 ... so the automatic question is: Is possible 
install linuxcnc rtai 5.0 on kernel 4.4 (exe. linux mint) ?? But before 
spending half a day just to browse, I would like to know if someone has already 
had results.


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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-18 Thread giorgio foga

yes the reference is about BRLCAD .


Thaks for reply but I know these ...my reference to the fact that you have to 
write code to use a cad Linux quite well, is only for some simple types of 
routines at the personal and user level. I know how many difficulties it may 
involve writing code for the 3d graphics and the kind of work that you are 
going to run. My question was a kind of update I had from everyone on current 
linux programs that can convert a cad file to gcode format for an FDM printer. 
Nothing more. Perhaps the thing about autodesk is accidentally released.


regards

giorgio



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On 05/17/2017 04:18 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> I know these ... never try kicad ... but try more linux cad  actually 
> most part of these works in 3d model but you neet to make a lot of code for 
> use it in similar way to (for exe.) Inventor from 2008. Bend in most case is 
> only a "mirage"... I know USAF or NASA (not remember now) have make an open 
> cad (I think USAF or other Military USA office because I remember a 
> simulation 3d of tank shot) ... and i try to use it into 2010  really 
> much code to write for use it.
>
> So I know quite well linux cad situation .
>
>
> Any how I hope with 3d print "revolution" (in europe has already passed but 
> it is going to be revived due to several inventions in various states) 
> something was moove in that direction. The program  indicate to mee from 
> various user is all valid and think i try all next mount when my 
> 1500*1200*800 3d print was terminated.
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio
>

> 
> Da: Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
> Inviato: mercoledì 17 maggio 2017 06.49
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>
> I like free open source software too.  In fact I finally switched from
> Eagle to Kicad for schematics and PCB design,   IN the past Eagle worked
> and Kicad as a development process.  Kicad caught up because CERN (the
> physics lab in Europe) adopted and funded Kicad.
>
> But open source CAD/CAM is just not there yet.  You simply can not draw a
> part and then send it to a four axis milling machine using open source
> software. When that is possible I'll do it.
>
> Yes Autodesk will ask you to pay a for Fusion.  It is not free for everyone
> so you don't have to be suspicious of them charging for it one day. They
> are already asking for money.   But it's free for hobby, student and small
> startups.  They have a sustainable business model, charge a subscription to
> those who can afford it and don't bother asking for money from those who
> don't have money.
>
> What FreeCAD needs is someone to adopt it like KiCad, someone with a few
> million dollars to spend.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 2:09 PM, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 16 May 2017 at 19:05, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Autodesk Fusion is 3D CAD software for making 3D designs.
>> It's great, suspiciously so. But it does't run on Linux, which was a
>> requirement in the original post.
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-17 Thread giorgio foga

I know these ... never try kicad ... but try more linux cad  actually most 
part of these works in 3d model but you neet to make a lot of code for use it 
in similar way to (for exe.) Inventor from 2008. Bend in most case is only a 
"mirage"... I know USAF or NASA (not remember now) have make an open cad (I 
think USAF or other Military USA office because I remember a simulation 3d of 
tank shot) ... and i try to use it into 2010  really much code to write for 
use it.

So I know quite well linux cad situation .

Any how I hope with 3d print "revolution" (in europe has already passed but it 
is going to be revived due to several inventions in various states) something 
was moove in that direction. The program  indicate to mee from various user is 
all valid and think i try all next mount when my 1500*1200*800 3d print was 
terminated.

regards

giorgio

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I like free open source software too.  In fact I finally switched from
Eagle to Kicad for schematics and PCB design,   IN the past Eagle worked
and Kicad as a development process.  Kicad caught up because CERN (the
physics lab in Europe) adopted and funded Kicad.

But open source CAD/CAM is just not there yet.  You simply can not draw a
part and then send it to a four axis milling machine using open source
software. When that is possible I'll do it.

Yes Autodesk will ask you to pay a for Fusion.  It is not free for everyone
so you don't have to be suspicious of them charging for it one day. They
are already asking for money.   But it's free for hobby, student and small
startups.  They have a sustainable business model, charge a subscription to
those who can afford it and don't bother asking for money from those who
don't have money.

What FreeCAD needs is someone to adopt it like KiCad, someone with a few
million dollars to spend.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 2:09 PM, andy pugh  wrote:

> On 16 May 2017 at 19:05, Chris Albertson 
> wrote:
> > Autodesk Fusion is 3D CAD software for making 3D designs.
>
> It's great, suspiciously so. But it does't run on Linux, which was a
> requirement in the original post.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-17 Thread giorgio foga

I read now... I use freeCAD, but i have no time to learn  me how to use so well 
... I'm an autocat/autodesk user from 1989 ... in my work FEA analysis is 
slower than my experience. So real rarely use it (maybe 1-2 time some years 
ago?)


regards

giorgio


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On 16 May 2017 at 20:21, Bruce Layne  wrote:
> The weird thing is, there is a very nice looking Finite
> Element Analysis module in FreeCAD.  Go figure.

FEA is a much more bounded problem than CAM. And you don't get a pile
o broken cutters to prove that the answers are wrong either.

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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-17 Thread giorgio foga

you are in right  but it is my surprise on that  any how ... I have a 
cad system on office ... but I use FreeCad too with some difficult but it work 
great (never use for big project) ... my ideal it is to have all pc on linux 
... is a bad things? because the question.


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On 16 May 2017 at 19:05, Chris Albertson  wrote:
> Autodesk Fusion is 3D CAD software for making 3D designs.

It's great, suspiciously so. But it does't run on Linux, which was a
requirement in the original post.

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Re: [Emc-users] new thread inspired by Christophers question about 3d printer sliceing SW.

2017-05-16 Thread giorgio foga

You are in right but today you can choice from many type of material ... 
someone works fine a cold.

For rude heated bed you can use heating cable and glass plane + some sort of 
hot hair shot . You can use your iso30/40 tolholder modified  for house a 
head ...

Any how milling machine is not the best choice  at least your mill it 
should be able to run at 40mt/min ... better 70 ...


regards

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Greetings all;

And the next logical question from me is:

Has anyone put a printhead on a std moving table milling machine, and
used it to do some 3d additive printing?  I am "out of room" for more
machines, and that seems like a possible to do project. Doing it well
would remain to be seen.

The printhead seems like the lessor of two aspects, as a heated bed that
big seems to be the bigger problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-16 Thread giorgio foga

funny ... never usion fusion features on my old inventor ...

I try to renew my license.

regards

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Autodesk Fusion is 3D CAD software for making 3D designs.   It will also
"slice" those models and output the g-code that will drive a 3D printer
layer by layer. Fusion can also produce g-codes for driving a mill or
lathe.   That is one of Fusion's best features:  It is an end-to-end system
where yo use the same software for concept renderings as for manufacturing
by either subtractive of advice process.   You can 3D print a prototype
then later mill the same part.

Fusion is free for hobby use, students and any small-time shop who make
less than $50K per year with the software.  If you are selling more than
$50K they want a paid up license.

There is other free software but it tends to be the work of one of a couple
people.  Fusion is suported by an industry heavyweight

What I don't know is if Fusion will slice an STL file that it did not
create.  Can it slice an imported one?

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> Hi,
>
>
> anyone can suggest me a good cam for additive manufactoring .. (fdm) ...
> free or payment not so important, but just need to install it on linux...
>
>
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[Emc-users] Best cam linux/open for additive manufactory

2017-05-16 Thread giorgio foga

Hi,


anyone can suggest me a good cam for additive manufactoring .. (fdm) ... free 
or payment not so important, but just need to install it on linux...


regards

goirgio
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Re: [Emc-users] c++ control Lcnc ... old piece of code

2017-05-13 Thread giorgio foga

The second mail

halui.cc may be a start example ... but not have function for grab warning user
messages and user error messages ... these message where came from?

regards

Giorgio

Da: andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
Inviato: venerdì 12 maggio 2017 15.55
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] c++ control Lcnc ... old piece of code

On 12 May 2017 at 13:28, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
>
> The question actually for perform the same or similar result not find xemc.cc
> (because from 2.5 to 2.8 is disappear or because I'm very bad detective...)

It disappeared between 2.7 and 2.8.
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.7/src/emc/usr_intf/xemc.cc
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more.

Looking through old emails, I saw this discussion given as the reasoning
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-developers/thread/20151221024211.GF92296%40unpythonic.net/#msg34710198
Though that is referring to mini and Keystick. I am not sure what the
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Re: [Emc-users] c++ control Lcnc ... old piece of code

2017-05-13 Thread giorgio foga

Sorry but in that time I still did not know the Lcnc project so well ... so did
not even the mailing list ... just now that you Andy on the forum advised me to
arrange me to fix a problem I was up and I still have with halcompile I got
under studying a Yes ... because I saw that it is not possible to correct that
"problem" for good without knowing at least some of the Lcnc files.

So the question now can be transformed into this: now how now what should you
do to sniff the Lcnc (user warning and error) signals in a c ++ file? What are
the files to put in the header of this program? And what structures to use?

I hope all can forgive me bad english.

regards

giorgio

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Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

Dear Gene,

no worry ... yesterday night I see the Kurt messages  very nice and it 
explains more than every word. In addition as a kid (but in the 80's) I loved 
watching star trek. I also like the new versions ... and I know some fans would 
have to laugh ... but I'm good in mouth = I'm fine too.

So the proposal of "donate button" is dead.

Regards

Giorgio

kurt message:

Da: Kurt Jacobson <kurtcjacob...@gmail.com>
Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 23.24
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

https://youtu.be/MH7KYmGnj40

Da: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 23.49
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 17:15:05 giorgio foga wrote:

> sorry Gene I'm not american what is means: Yup, its dead
> Jim???  At least I can understand the trend he has developer
> views.
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio

That is one of the more famous lines from the original Star Trek tv
series.  So old, I think the reruns are still in black & white. Early
1960's stuff.  Actually, I think the line was "He's dead, Jim", said in
a flat monotone voice, but its been modified in common usage rather like
back fence gossip.

We know it well on this side of the pond, and I keep forgetting this list
goes anyplace you can get an internet connection.  My bad and fading
memory at play.
> 
> Da: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 12.52
> A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?
>
> On Wednesday 10 May 2017 03:49:24 giorgio foga wrote:
> > Renew my ideas to add "donate" button in top of forum .I know
> > many give a lot to the forum every day  others instead like me
> > much less ... and we are in many ... maybe in this way we can become
> > useful.
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
> >
> > 
> > Da: Bengt Sjölund <beng...@tecno.se>
> > Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 08.50
> > A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?
> >
> > And down again.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Bengt
> >
> > Den 2017-05-09 kl. 15:58, skrev John Thornton:
> > > I had to power cycle it this morning around 5am central time.
> > >
> > > JT
> > >
> > > On 5/9/2017 7:24 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> > >> It's up from here.
> > >>
> > >> http://isup.me/forum.linuxcnc.org
> > >>
> > >> On May 9, 2017 1:49:45 AM MDT, "Bengt Sjölund" <beng...@tecno.se>
>
> wrote:
> > >>> And down again!
> > >>>
> > >>> What is it with the forum that goes down very often?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Bengt
>
> Yup, its dead Jim.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-05-10 Thread giorgio foga

ok. Many thanks I did a good laugh  in addition it was a lot that I did not 
see anything about Star Trek


giorgio


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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

https://youtu.be/MH7KYmGnj40

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:15 PM, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
wrote:

> sorry Gene I'm not american what is means: Yup, its dead Jim???
>  At least I can understand the trend he has developer views.
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio
>
>
> 
> Da: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 12.52
> A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?
>
> On Wednesday 10 May 2017 03:49:24 giorgio foga wrote:
>
> > Renew my ideas to add "donate" button in top of forum .I know many
> > give a lot to the forum every day  others instead like me much
> > less ... and we are in many ... maybe in this way we can become
> > useful.
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
> >
> > 
> > Da: Bengt Sjölund <beng...@tecno.se>
> > Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 08.50
> > A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?
> >
> > And down again.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Bengt
> >
> > Den 2017-05-09 kl. 15:58, skrev John Thornton:
> > > I had to power cycle it this morning around 5am central time.
> > >
> > > JT
> > >
> > > On 5/9/2017 7:24 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> > >> It's up from here.
> > >>
> > >> http://isup.me/forum.linuxcnc.org
> > >>
> > >> On May 9, 2017 1:49:45 AM MDT, "Bengt Sjölund" <beng...@tecno.se>
> wrote:
> > >>> And down again!
> > >>>
> > >>> What is it with the forum that goes down very often?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Bengt
>
> Yup, its dead Jim.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-05-10 Thread giorgio foga

sorry Gene I'm not american what is means: Yup, its dead Jim???  At 
least I can understand the trend he has developer views.


regards

giorgio



Da: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 12.52
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 03:49:24 giorgio foga wrote:

> Renew my ideas to add "donate" button in top of forum .I know many
> give a lot to the forum every day  others instead like me much
> less ... and we are in many ... maybe in this way we can become
> useful.
>
>
> regards
>
> Giorgio
>
>
> 
> Da: Bengt Sjölund <beng...@tecno.se>
> Inviato: mercoledì 10 maggio 2017 08.50
> A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?
>
> And down again.
>
> Cheers
> Bengt
>
> Den 2017-05-09 kl. 15:58, skrev John Thornton:
> > I had to power cycle it this morning around 5am central time.
> >
> > JT
> >
> > On 5/9/2017 7:24 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> >> It's up from here.
> >>
> >> http://isup.me/forum.linuxcnc.org
> >>
> >> On May 9, 2017 1:49:45 AM MDT, "Bengt Sjölund" <beng...@tecno.se>
wrote:
> >>> And down again!
> >>>
> >>> What is it with the forum that goes down very often?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Bengt

Yup, its dead Jim.

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Re: [Emc-users] Installing On Older Computer

2017-05-10 Thread giorgio foga

and why not continue to use ubuntu 10.04?


 I suspect that your ram is a bit slow ... try to buy new one more fast ex. 
1333Mhz type and 2Gb 


regards

giorgio



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Is there a trick to installing Linuxcnc/Wheezy on an older single core computer?

I have a machine that has been happily running Linuxcnc for some time on an 
older Linuxcnc Ubuntu 10,04 install.
It is an older P4 2.8gHz cpu (single core) with 1G memory and works reasonably 
well with Lucid. This PC is a little bit special in that it has some ISA slots 
on the motherboard and 1 ISA card is used by Linuxcnc to interface with the 
machine.

I have tried several times to test or install the newer Linuxcnc/Wheezy iso. 
But it boots and runs painfully slow, and neither the latency tests or Linuxcnc 
will open. Trying to start Linuxcnc from the command line tells me nothing.

Any ideas why this machine refuses to work with the newer version?

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Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-05-10 Thread giorgio foga

Renew my ideas to add "donate" button in top of forum .I know many give a 
lot to the forum every day  others instead like me much less ... and we are 
in many ... maybe in this way we can become useful.


regards

Giorgio



Da: Bengt Sjölund 
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And down again.

Cheers
Bengt


Den 2017-05-09 kl. 15:58, skrev John Thornton:
> I had to power cycle it this morning around 5am central time.
>
> JT
>
>
> On 5/9/2017 7:24 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
>> It's up from here.
>>
>> http://isup.me/forum.linuxcnc.org
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2017 1:49:45 AM MDT, "Bengt Sjölund"  wrote:
>>> And down again!
>>>
>>> What is it with the forum that goes down very often?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Bengt
>>>
>>>
>>> Den 2017-04-30 kl. 19:58, skrev Jon Elson:
 On 04/29/2017 04:26 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 And, it seems to be back up!

  Thanks,

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Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please

2017-05-08 Thread giorgio foga

My Error Andy pugh. I bad wrote my concept, I try to correct it:

If I wanted to redistribute my work on Lcnc I must linux mint or debian or 
other linux distro that support rt patch  because ubuntu policy licensing 
is a bit hard to use (You must recompile the SO leaving all ubuntu brand refer 
and program that use ubuntu brand in header).

Well, in the end I think I'll use a qt interface on windows if things get 
complicated further with the gnu licenses.I also have a motherboard naked 
inside a box with its power supply for desk tests  but here all my pcs are 
ubuntu ... i never used to mac ... the fact that here from We cost a bang has a 
lot to do with this choice . if i could also i would buy cars and 
electronics in america ... i would save at least 50%. Talking apart I was 
referring to the talk of licenses and the fact that in any case I have to deal 
with a lot more familiarity with debian ... for example I could start right 
from networkmanager and egalax driver.

Many thanks

Giorgio

Da: andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
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On 5 May 2017 at 12:30, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> Not worry, as I can understand today if I wanted to redistribute my work on 
> Lcnc I have to use either linux or debian linux ... so I could run with 
> egalax and debian ... but if i use debian I do not get very excited ... too 
> many bash commands do not answer This is me dry

Not necessarily. I do all my LinuxCNC work sat in front of an iMac. I
have a bare motherboard on the bookshelf to check out hardware/rtai
stuff, but I use a variety of remote-mounted file systems, VMs and
X-forwarding to the Mac screen for the coding.

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Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please

2017-05-05 Thread giorgio foga

Not worry, as I can understand today if I wanted to redistribute my work on 
Lcnc I have to use either linux or debian linux ... so I could run with egalax 
and debian ... but if i use debian I do not get very excited ... too many bash 
commands do not answer This is me dry  but patience I will have to learn 
new tricks  so as soon as I have tried it too debian I will let you know.


regards

giorgio



Da: Jan Bos <rappyrip...@gmail.com>
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please

Yes, it shows up as an Egalaxy touch, there are actually 2 Egalaxy touch
devices listed. I am on Debian so things are slightly different, previously
on Ubuntu I could use the drivers and calibration software provided with
the screens but they wont work on Debian.
As I mentioned, I got it to work but the calibration is not that each time
the same, I can see after a reboot that it has changed a little and after
several reboots it changes again a little but never enough to have to
recalibrate. It stays within the acceptable and usable range.

Its working thanks to all your help and that's all that matters to me now,
on the real problems now like a coffee maker that blows the fuse when wakes
up from stand-by.

G21

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:00 PM, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:

> sorry is an egalax touch?? you are on ubuntu or debian?
>
>
> Ik you have kernel > of 2.6 actually on egalax drive is not need to write
> the calibration.conf file ... there are a tool for these  only you need
> to add usbtouch SO drive on blacklist 
>
> I think is the same with elo touch...
>
>
> I you work on MS I'm not able to help
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio
>
>
> 
> Da: Jan Bos <rappyrip...@gmail.com>
> Inviato: mercoledì 3 maggio 2017 06.06
> A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please
>
> Thanks everybody for hanging in there with me trying to figure this thing
> out.
>
> I ended up with calibration values as follows:
> Option  "Calibration""2025  27  125  1950"  in the 99-calibration.conf
>
> This gets my touch point within 1mm of where I actually touch the screen
> with a stylus. I also can get to the edges of the screen on all sides and
> all axis are in the correct direction.
>
> Not sure if this is a multi-touch screen, it actually came as a Windows
> Industrial PC where the PC is build into the screen and forms one unit.  I
> can drag on the screen and actually select files like that, it forms a
> 'box' around the files when I drag diagonally over the screen. Touch
> response is good also, single click and double click work fine and can be
> tweaked also.
>
> Works fine with Gomoccapy in full screen.
>
> On to the next challenge.
>
> Thanks everybody for your help and patience.
>
> Jan.
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Stevenson <stus...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Get some sleep. You will think better in the morning. I calibrated mine
> but
> > don't remember how. I will check in the morning.
> > Regarding the two touch screens is it possible you have a multi-touch
> > screen?
> >
> > On May 2, 2017 3:30 PM, "John Thornton" <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote:
> >
> > And I know the same thing, I made a script to load the file after
> > testing...
> >
> > JT
> >
> >
> > On 5/2/2017 1:39 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> > > It is possible to calibrate the screen iteratively by changing the
> > > numbers by hand. Don't ask me how I know.
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [Emc-users] Buildbot Jessie RTAI

2017-05-04 Thread giorgio foga


... is the same if try to test it on ubuntu 16 and rtai5.0-test2 ?


giorgio



Da: Sebastian Kuzminsky 
Inviato: giovedì 27 aprile 2017 23.06
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] Buildbot Jessie RTAI

On 04/27/2017 01:18 PM, Todd  Zuercher wrote:
> Is Buildbot ever going to have new builds for a Jessie RTAI kernal?

As soon as a bugfree RTAI kernel for Jessie exists.


> For a short time there were, then it was discovered that it was
> crashing the sytem, and shut down. Is any effort being made to try to
> fix it, either a new kernel build or figuring out why the other one
> didn't work?

The problem that prevented us from shipping RTAI 5.0-test2 on Linux 4.1
for Debian Jessie still exists in the RTAI code.

The RTAI developers are aware of it but no fix has been found as of 2017
April 12.

I'm not currently working on fixing this problem.

Anyone who is interested in this platform is welcome to help in
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Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please

2017-05-04 Thread giorgio foga

sorry is an egalax touch?? you are on ubuntu or debian?


Ik you have kernel > of 2.6 actually on egalax drive is not need to write the 
calibration.conf file ... there are a tool for these  only you need to add 
usbtouch SO drive on blacklist 

I think is the same with elo touch...


I you work on MS I'm not able to help


regards

giorgio



Da: Jan Bos 
Inviato: mercoledì 3 maggio 2017 06.06
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] touch screen calibration assistance please

Thanks everybody for hanging in there with me trying to figure this thing
out.

I ended up with calibration values as follows:
Option  "Calibration""2025  27  125  1950"  in the 99-calibration.conf

This gets my touch point within 1mm of where I actually touch the screen
with a stylus. I also can get to the edges of the screen on all sides and
all axis are in the correct direction.

Not sure if this is a multi-touch screen, it actually came as a Windows
Industrial PC where the PC is build into the screen and forms one unit.  I
can drag on the screen and actually select files like that, it forms a
'box' around the files when I drag diagonally over the screen. Touch
response is good also, single click and double click work fine and can be
tweaked also.

Works fine with Gomoccapy in full screen.

On to the next challenge.

Thanks everybody for your help and patience.

Jan.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Get some sleep. You will think better in the morning. I calibrated mine but
> don't remember how. I will check in the morning.
> Regarding the two touch screens is it possible you have a multi-touch
> screen?
>
> On May 2, 2017 3:30 PM, "John Thornton"  wrote:
>
> And I know the same thing, I made a script to load the file after
> testing...
>
> JT
>
>
> On 5/2/2017 1:39 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> > It is possible to calibrate the screen iteratively by changing the
> > numbers by hand. Don't ask me how I know.
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-24 Thread giorgio foga

No problem ... but not shure that ubuntu 10.04 can receive the new master  
and these machine for shure I can't upgrade to ubuntu16 or debian 8 No one 
has ever even confirmed the possibility that installing a new JA14 linuxcnc on 
ubuntu 10.04 can run smoothly.

If you can confirm that: no problem with ubuntu 10.04 + JA14 ... for shure can 
upgrade.

In any case I would like to have some indication to start moving a few steps in 
the linuxcnc files to test for the momnet, so as to get familiar with the 
structure of the program  so have some indication where can see in linuxcnc 
file for solve these issue for me was the first step of these my project.

Regards

Giorgio

Da: Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
Inviato: sabato 22 aprile 2017 00.45
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

On 04/21/2017 10:21 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> Dear Kuzminsky,
>
> sorry for the late reply ... no there are JA9 ... the file ini.txt for 
> observe it  joint1-2 and axis 1-2 is equal than joint 0 and axis 0 ...
>
> I see nothings to particular ... so a suggest in witch emc file I try to 
> observe and study for modify and solve there are a good things.

My advise is still the same:  JA9 is very old, and many bugs have been
fixed since then.  Upgrade your machine to a newer version of the master
branch and try again.  If the bug is still there we'll try to fix it.

> Da: Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
> Inviato: martedì 11 aprile 2017 20.54
> A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...
>
> On 04/11/2017 03:10 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
>> I just setting the [TRAJ] and [AXIS]  and [JOINT] section with the
>> right unit per second  and axis gui work as I aspect ...  ...
>> everything works well in axis gui, max-value is shown as I expect.
>> The problem is only when I want to use the commands
>> halui.max-velocity.scale / increase / decrease  at this point the
>> value immediately goes to 60.0 ... and then if I use increase /
>> decrease change correctly but never beyond the 60.0  at this
>> point i try to move the slider axis gui and everything returns to be
>> shown properly. I used google translate in hopes of being lighter.
>> []   any how I control again my setting.
>
> What exact version of LinuxCNC are you using?
>
> Is this the old ja14 system you mentioned in another thread?  If so, and
> if an upgrade from ja14 to the current master branch
> (v2.8.0-pre1-2975-gc0778d66cf or there abouts) doesn't fix this issue,
> please post your ini file somewhere so we can look at it.

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Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-21 Thread giorgio foga

Dear Kuzminsky,


sorry for the late reply ... no there are JA9 ... the file ini.txt for observe 
it  joint1-2 and axis 1-2 is equal than joint 0 and axis 0 ...


I see nothings to particular ... so a suggest in witch emc file I try to 
observe and study for modify and solve there are a good things.


regards

Giorgio



Da: Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
Inviato: martedì 11 aprile 2017 20.54
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

On 04/11/2017 03:10 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> I just setting the [TRAJ] and [AXIS]  and [JOINT] section with the
> right unit per second  and axis gui work as I aspect ...  ...
> everything works well in axis gui, max-value is shown as I expect.
> The problem is only when I want to use the commands
> halui.max-velocity.scale / increase / decrease  at this point the
> value immediately goes to 60.0 ... and then if I use increase /
> decrease change correctly but never beyond the 60.0  at this
> point i try to move the slider axis gui and everything returns to be
> shown properly. I used google translate in hopes of being lighter.
> []   any how I control again my setting.

What exact version of LinuxCNC are you using?

Is this the old ja14 system you mentioned in another thread?  If so, and
if an upgrade from ja14 to the current master branch
(v2.8.0-pre1-2975-gc0778d66cf or there abouts) doesn't fix this issue,
please post your ini file somewhere so we can look at it.


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# Generated by PNCconf at Tue Nov 10 10:24:28 2015
# If you make changes to this file, they will be
# overwritten when you run PNCconf again

[EMC]
# The version string for this INI file.
VERSION = 1.0

MACHINE = n
DEBUG = 0

[DISPLAY]
#DISPLAY = linuxcncrsh  #
DISPLAY = axis   
#DISPLAY = ./nogui.sh
POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 1.2000
MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1.00
MIN_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 0.50
INTRO_GRAPHIC = no
INTRO_TIME = 0
PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/b/R1
OPEN_FILE = ""
INCREMENTS = 5mm 1mm .5mm .1mm .05mm .01mm .005mm
PYVCP=panel.xml
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 2000.00
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 3000.00
MIN_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 0.00
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 36.00
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 720.00
MIN_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 0.00
EDITOR = gedit
GEOMETRY = xyzab

[FILTER]
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .png,.gif,.jpg Greyscale Depth Image
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script
png = image-to-gcode
gif = image-to-gcode
jpg = image-to-gcode
py = python

[PYTHON]
PATH_PREPEND=python
TOPLEVEL=python/toplevel.py
LOG_LEVEL=8

[RS274NGC]
FEATURES = 28
PARAMETER_FILE = linuxcnc.var
USER_M_PATH = /home/b/mcode
SUBROUTINE_PATH=/usr/share/linuxcnc/ncfiles
#SUBROUTINE_PATH=nc_files//usr/share/linuxcnc/ncfiles/b_lib
LOG_LEVEL=0
REMAP=G70 modalgroup=1 py=queuebuster 
ON_ABORT_COMAND=o call

[EMCMOT]
EMCMOT = motmod
COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0
COMM_WAIT = 0.010
BASE_PERIOD = 5
SERVO_PERIOD = 55
TRAJ_PERIOD = 110

[TASK]
TASK = milltask
CYCLE_TIME = 0.010

[HAL]
#HALUI = halui
HALFILE = n.hal
# no questa HALFILE = custom.hal
POSTGUI_HALFILE = custom.hal
# no questa POSTGUI_HALFILE = custom_postgui.hal
SHUTDOWN = shutdown.hal

[HALUI]
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = O  CALL
MDI_COMMAND = M100
MDI_COMMAND = M111
MDI_COMMAND = M140
MDI_COMMAND = M141
MDI_COMMAND = M142
MDI_COMMAND = M143
MDI_COMMAND = M144
MDI_COMMAND = M145
MDI_COMMAND = M146
MDI_COMMAND = M147
MDI_COMMAND = M148
MDI_COMMAND = M149
MDI_COMMAND = M150
MDI_COMMAND = M151
MDI_COMMAND = M153
MDI_COMMAND = M154
MDI_COMMAND = M155
MDI_COMMAND = M156
MDI_COMMAND = M157
MDI_COMMAND = M158
MDI_COMMAND = M159
MDI_COMMAND = M170
MDI_COMMAND = M171
MDI_COMMAND = M172
MDI_COMMAND = M173


[TRAJ]
AXES = 5
COORDINATES = X Y Z A B
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 720.00
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 36.00
MAX_ANGULAR_ACCELERATION = 2000.00 #
LINEAR_UNITS = mm
ANGULAR_UNITS = deg
CYCLE_TIME = 0.010
DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 500.00
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 3000.00
MAX_LINEAR_ACCELERATION = 25000.00 #
NO_FORCE_HOMING = 0
POSITION_FILE = position.txt

[EMCIO]
EMCIO = io

Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-04-20 Thread giorgio foga

Some forum it has "donate" button .. In this way it is possible to fund a more 
stable server service, especially in the case of sites with a lot of memory 
consumption ... 2USD of annual donation is nothing to worry about getting 
everyone in touch ... but it is not my intention to oppose Nobody with this 
proposal.


regards

giorgio



Da: Bengt Sjölund 
Inviato: giovedì 20 aprile 2017 12.35
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Oggetto: [Emc-users] Forum down?

Forum down, anybody know what has happened?

Cheers
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Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-04-20 Thread giorgio foga

some forums it has "donate" button ...This way it is possible to fund a more 
stable server service, especially in the case of sites with a lot of memory 
consumption ... 2USD of annual donation is nothing to worry about getting 
everyone in touch ... but it is not my intention to oppose Nobody with this 
proposal.


Regards

giorgio



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Oggetto: [Emc-users] Forum down?

Forum down, anybody know what has happened?

Cheers
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Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

2017-04-13 Thread giorgio foga

Ciao Valerio,


It is a new machine or used? Because actually the emergency law (uni - 
direttiva macchine) talk about 4 level of emergency ... in one of these levels 
we talk specifically about enable. In any case by the law yuo're making a new 
machinery, did you know that? In UE retrofit understood as the mean in other 
part of the world no longher exist. [☹]


These only for your info ... in real world many system integrators not very 
strictly comply with CE laws on security ... in fact sometimes are overly 
restrictive. unfortunately the risk becomes all of those who break the law. Not 
worth it.


regards

giorgio



Da: Valerio Bellizzomi <vale...@selnet.org>
Inviato: mercoledì 12 aprile 2017 19.44
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

Ciao Giorgio,
my other machine was actually sold to me without the enable pin in the
safety chain.





On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 16:19 +, giorgio foga wrote:
> Hi Valerio,
>
>
>
> Peter suggest obviusly is right,but in our laws (CE) if there is you must use 
> the enable pin in the safety chain  obviously if the machine is for you 
> and only you can do as you please. I know it's something to be pedantic 
> people ... but I think it is correct inform you since you're still under 
> development.
>
>
> regards
>
> giorgio
>
> 
> Da: Valerio Bellizzomi <vale...@selnet.org>
> Inviato: mercoledì 12 aprile 2017 10.07
> A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup
>
> Thanks to all,
> now that I think to, on my other machine the driver enable is left
> unconnected, so I think I will leave them unconnected.
>
> Valerio
>
> On Tue, 2017-04-11 at 11:53 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:25:04 +0200
> > > From: Valerio Bellizzomi <vale...@selnet.org>
> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > To: EMC Users <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] mesa setup
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I am looking at the 7i76 manual and at the TB2 connector pinout (page
> > > 5), it is evident where to connect the step and dir wires, it is less
> > > evident where to connect the enable+ and enable- wires for each motor
> > > driver.
> > >
> > > What is the usual setup ?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Normally Step drive "enable" pins are actually disable pins
> > so the drive functions normally without these being connected
> >
> > In addition typically step drives are fairly safe in that unlike servo
> > drives, they will not move without step pulses
> >
> > So its most common that these pins are just ignored
> >
> > If they are actually enable pins (powered to enable drive),
> > they can be driven by a spare step/dir pin or 7I76 field output
> >
> > If your enable pins are actually disable pins (and you must power them to
> > disable the drive), and you feel you need to disble them for things like
> > emergency stop, perhaps the best solution is to drive them with a normally
> > closed relay contact so the drives are disabled until the relay is energized
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Wallace
> > Mesa Electronics
> >
> > (\__/)
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> > (")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.
> >
> >



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Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

2017-04-12 Thread giorgio foga

Hi Valerio,



Peter suggest obviusly is right,but in our laws (CE) if there is you must use 
the enable pin in the safety chain  obviously if the machine is for you and 
only you can do as you please. I know it's something to be pedantic people ... 
but I think it is correct inform you since you're still under development.


regards

giorgio


Da: Valerio Bellizzomi 
Inviato: mercoledì 12 aprile 2017 10.07
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

Thanks to all,
now that I think to, on my other machine the driver enable is left
unconnected, so I think I will leave them unconnected.

Valerio

On Tue, 2017-04-11 at 11:53 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:25:04 +0200
> > From: Valerio Bellizzomi 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: EMC Users 
> > Subject: [Emc-users] mesa setup
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am looking at the 7i76 manual and at the TB2 connector pinout (page
> > 5), it is evident where to connect the step and dir wires, it is less
> > evident where to connect the enable+ and enable- wires for each motor
> > driver.
> >
> > What is the usual setup ?
> >
>
>
> Normally Step drive "enable" pins are actually disable pins
> so the drive functions normally without these being connected
>
> In addition typically step drives are fairly safe in that unlike servo
> drives, they will not move without step pulses
>
> So its most common that these pins are just ignored
>
> If they are actually enable pins (powered to enable drive),
> they can be driven by a spare step/dir pin or 7I76 field output
>
> If your enable pins are actually disable pins (and you must power them to
> disable the drive), and you feel you need to disble them for things like
> emergency stop, perhaps the best solution is to drive them with a normally
> closed relay contact so the drives are disabled until the relay is energized
>
>
>
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> Mesa Electronics
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Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

2017-04-11 Thread giorgio foga

Normally I use io ... tb5/tb6 ...


regards

Giorgio



Da: Valerio Bellizzomi 
Inviato: martedì 11 aprile 2017 20.25
A: EMC Users
Oggetto: [Emc-users] mesa setup

Hello,
I am looking at the 7i76 manual and at the TB2 connector pinout (page
5), it is evident where to connect the step and dir wires, it is less
evident where to connect the enable+ and enable- wires for each motor
driver.

What is the usual setup ?




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Re: [Emc-users] old JA14 .. tedious problem cnt't do that emc_traj_enable_teleop ...

2017-04-11 Thread giorgio foga

Ok. 

so if I have other of these error . I comment out it from witch Lcnc file?? 
emcmot.cc?

Whitch is the file that is responsible to sending those messages?? (axis.py it 
show the messages ... but hte real error signal, just where it comes?)

regards
Giorgio

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Inviato: martedì 11 aprile 2017 17.46
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] old JA14 .. tedious problem cnt't do that 
emc_traj_enable_teleop ...

On 04/10/2017 03:25 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> I Have an old machine with Lcnc 2.8 and ja14  I use it for
> testing my comp modbus ... I tried in some way to remove this
> annoying error message than the TeleOp jumping out whenever I pause a
> program or that I finish a mdi command stand-alone  I have not
> tried the component on my new ubuntu 16.04 with the new master 
> so I have no evidence ... but I'd like to know how to remove this
> error ... the error comes out although I use the machine only with
> axis gui without my modbus component that pc is too tiny for
> install a 16.04 or debian 8.
>
> any suggestions would be appreciated.

You probably don't need to upgrade the OS to Ubuntu 16.04 or Debian 7 or
8, but you should definitely upgrade LinuxCNC to the latest master
(2.8-pre release).  Many, many JA-related bugs have been fixed since ja14.

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Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-11 Thread giorgio foga

sorry ... a messages out of theme  I see your solution about singletone 
userspace comp  i have tested other solution from other user of makinekit 
 it seems to work, but I'm not know where is the right place to messages 
these 

regards

Giorgio

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Inviato: lunedì 10 aprile 2017 20.18
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

On 04/10/2017 02:18 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> using JA I try to send halui.max-velocity.decrease/increase trought
> modbus  after more test I see it work well but the result is
> unespected for my config. With axis gui I have max-velocity slider
> that show 21mm/min max velocity ... it is ok ... but if I use
> setp halui.max-velocity.scale .. i try for test these value
> 100-10-1  and It seems it not working well, but when I try to use
> 0.1 and 0.01 I see it work perfect but with undesired result  in
> the past after any test th max-velocity, after press  pycp.button ->
> halui.max-velocity.decrease ... the max-value on axis gui go to 60.0
> and it stop  using scale = 0.1 or 0.01 I see the max-value and
> slider on axis gui goto 60, 59, 58... or 59.9, 59.8, 59.7 etc etc...
> So I see it work but why it go from 21 (my right value) to
> 60.0??? I control axis.py file to undestand why but I have notn see
> anything at odds to my config.
>
> I use angular and linear axis too  obviusly I not seeing the
> right things.

Hi Giorgio, I don't totally understand what you're reporting, but I
think maybe you're running into a problem with different units being
used in different places.

The .ini file file has [TRAJ]MAX_VELOCITY, [AXIS_*]MAX_VELOCITY and
[JOINT_*]MAX_VELOCITY in machine units (mm in your case) per second:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_traj_section
INI Configuration - 
LinuxCNC<http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_traj_section>
linuxcnc.org
A comment line is started with a ; or a # mark. When the ini reader sees either 
of these marks at the start a line, the rest of the line is ignored by the 
software.

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_letter_gt_section
INI Configuration - 
LinuxCNC<http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_letter_gt_section>
linuxcnc.org
A comment line is started with a ; or a # mark. When the ini reader sees either 
of these marks at the start a line, the rest of the line is ignored by the 
software.

But the Axis GUI presents Max Velocity in machine units per minute.

I just ran this test:

I started the sim/axis/axis_mm.ini config, and saw that Axis shows a max
velocity of 3200 mm/min.  This corresponds to the .ini file's
[TRAJ]MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY of 53.34 mm/s.

I then used halcmd to poke at halui.  I first saw that
halui.max-velocity.value was 53.3 (mm/s), roughly as expected.  I
set halui.max-velocity.scale to 0.1 (mm/s) and then
halui.max-velocity.decrease to 1.  That made halui.max-velocity.value
change to 53.2 mm/s, and the Axis Max Velocity slider changed to
3193.9 mm/min, which is also right.

I also tested with halui.max-velocity.scale set to 10 mm/s and 100 mm/s,
and both worked as expected.

I also tried on an inch machine with both linear and rotary axes, and
while there's only controls for max linear velocity, that config worked
as expected too.

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Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-11 Thread giorgio foga

Very thanks,

I just setting the [TRAJ] and [AXIS]  and [JOINT] section with the right unit 
per second  and axis gui work as I aspect ...  ... everything works well in 
axis gui, max-value is shown as I expect. The problem is only when I want to 
use the commands halui.max-velocity.scale / increase / decrease  at this 
point the value immediately goes to 60.0 ... and then if I use increase / 
decrease change correctly but never beyond the 60.0  at this point i try to 
move the slider axis gui and everything returns to be shown properly. I used 
google translate in hopes of being lighter. []   any how I control again 
my setting.

regards

giorgio

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Inviato: lunedì 10 aprile 2017 20.18
A: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

On 04/10/2017 02:18 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> using JA I try to send halui.max-velocity.decrease/increase trought
> modbus  after more test I see it work well but the result is
> unespected for my config. With axis gui I have max-velocity slider
> that show 21mm/min max velocity ... it is ok ... but if I use
> setp halui.max-velocity.scale .. i try for test these value
> 100-10-1  and It seems it not working well, but when I try to use
> 0.1 and 0.01 I see it work perfect but with undesired result  in
> the past after any test th max-velocity, after press  pycp.button ->
> halui.max-velocity.decrease ... the max-value on axis gui go to 60.0
> and it stop  using scale = 0.1 or 0.01 I see the max-value and
> slider on axis gui goto 60, 59, 58... or 59.9, 59.8, 59.7 etc etc...
> So I see it work but why it go from 21 (my right value) to
> 60.0??? I control axis.py file to undestand why but I have notn see
> anything at odds to my config.
>
> I use angular and linear axis too  obviusly I not seeing the
> right things.

Hi Giorgio, I don't totally understand what you're reporting, but I
think maybe you're running into a problem with different units being
used in different places.

The .ini file file has [TRAJ]MAX_VELOCITY, [AXIS_*]MAX_VELOCITY and
[JOINT_*]MAX_VELOCITY in machine units (mm in your case) per second:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_traj_section
INI Configuration - 
LinuxCNC<http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_traj_section>
linuxcnc.org
A comment line is started with a ; or a # mark. When the ini reader sees either 
of these marks at the start a line, the rest of the line is ignored by the 
software.

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_letter_gt_section
INI Configuration - 
LinuxCNC<http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_letter_gt_section>
linuxcnc.org
A comment line is started with a ; or a # mark. When the ini reader sees either 
of these marks at the start a line, the rest of the line is ignored by the 
software.

But the Axis GUI presents Max Velocity in machine units per minute.

I just ran this test:

I started the sim/axis/axis_mm.ini config, and saw that Axis shows a max
velocity of 3200 mm/min.  This corresponds to the .ini file's
[TRAJ]MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY of 53.34 mm/s.

I then used halcmd to poke at halui.  I first saw that
halui.max-velocity.value was 53.3 (mm/s), roughly as expected.  I
set halui.max-velocity.scale to 0.1 (mm/s) and then
halui.max-velocity.decrease to 1.  That made halui.max-velocity.value
change to 53.2 mm/s, and the Axis Max Velocity slider changed to
3193.9 mm/min, which is also right.

I also tested with halui.max-velocity.scale set to 10 mm/s and 100 mm/s,
and both worked as expected.

I also tried on an inch machine with both linear and rotary axes, and
while there's only controls for max linear velocity, that config worked
as expected too.

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[Emc-users] old JA14 .. tedious problem cnt't do that emc_traj_enable_teleop ...

2017-04-10 Thread giorgio foga

I Have an old machine with Lcnc 2.8 and ja14  I use it for testing my comp 
modbus ... I tried in some way to remove this annoying error message than the 
TeleOp jumping out whenever I pause a program or that I finish a mdi command 
stand-alone  I have not tried the component on my new ubuntu 16.04 with the 
new master  so I have no evidence ... but I'd like to know how to remove 
this error ... the error comes out although I use the machine only with axis 
gui without my modbus component that pc is too tiny for install a 16.04 or 
debian 8.


any suggestions would be appreciated.

regards

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[Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-10 Thread giorgio foga

using JA I try to send halui.max-velocity.decrease/increase trought modbus  
after more test I see it work well but the result is unespected for my config. 
With axis gui I have max-velocity slider that show 21mm/min max velocity 
... it is ok ... but if I use setp halui.max-velocity.scale .. i try for 
test these value 100-10-1  and It seems it not working well, but when I try 
to use 0.1 and 0.01 I see it work perfect but with undesired result  in the 
past after any test th max-velocity, after press  pycp.button -> 
halui.max-velocity.decrease ... the max-value on axis gui go to 60.0 and it 
stop  using scale = 0.1 or 0.01 I see the max-value and slider on axis gui 
goto 60, 59, 58... or 59.9, 59.8, 59.7 etc etc... So I see it work but why it 
go from 21 (my right value) to 60.0??? I control axis.py file to undestand 
why but I have notn see anything at odds to my config.


I use angular and linear axis too  obviusly I not seeing the right things.


regards

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Re: [Emc-users] Installing on a updated distribution.

2016-12-02 Thread giorgio foga

For debian jessy there is a specific repo  for other no there isn't yet ... 
you can only try to install from sources .

and first install you oun rtai kernel ... but many recommend to do everything 
with a rt_preeempt ...

Actually I install over ubuntu 14.04 rt4.5 + patch ... mesa card + servo system 
works fine ... but in my case

is not possible install a userspace component  :(... instead realtime comp 
works fine... :)


Someone I've install with success on ubuntu 16.04 so if you would try these 
way.




regards

Giorgio





Da: Andreas Pettersson 
Inviato: venerdì 2 dicembre 2016 17.31
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: [Emc-users] Installing on a updated distribution.

Is there a working updated rtai kernel for say linuxmint 18, ubuntu 16,
debian jessie yet?

I remember i could run linux mint 17.3 with a 3.4-9 pae build, but that
is broken as well with the latest updates.
The package is still there in the linux repository tho but i only get
kernel panics when trying to boot that rtai build.

Was working great before tho..

// Andreas


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Re: [Emc-users] Lcnc git master... halcompile

2016-12-01 Thread giorgio foga

I control old halcompile file in ubuntu 10.04 and new one on ubuntu 14.04 


there is some row referred ios system (but not warm about)...

and these part all new  these can explain count e names error  but not 
-lmodbus and -lm error 


/*(row 868)*/ print >>f, """ 
/***/
int __comp_parse_count(int *argc, char **argv) {
int i;
for (i = 0; i < *argc; i ++) {
if (strncmp(argv[i], "count=", 6) == 0) {
errno = 0;
count = strtoul([i][6], NULL, 0);
for (; i+1 < *argc; i ++) {
argv[i] = argv[i+1];
}
argv[i] = NULL;
(*argc)--;
if (errno == 0) {
return 1;
}
}
}
return 0;
}
"""
print >>f, """
int __comp_parse_names(int *argc, char **argv) {
int i;
for (i = 0; i < *argc; i ++) {
if (strncmp(argv[i], "names=", 6) == 0) {
char *p = [i][6];
int j;
for (; i+1 < *argc; i ++) {
argv[i] = argv[i+1];
}
argv[i] = NULL;
(*argc)--;
for (j = 0; j < 16; j ++) {
names[j] = strtok(p, ",");
p = NULL;
if (names[j] == NULL) {
return 1;
}
}
    return 1;
}
}
return 0;
}
/*(row 912)*/ """




Da: giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
Inviato: mercoledì 30 novembre 2016 18.24
A: Enhanced Machine Controller EMC
Oggetto: [Emc-users] Lcnc git master... halcompile

due to some problems can not be explained
(an 1 year old LCNC Ja9 on Ubuntu 10.04 make unrecognize error, and plus after 
install of JA9 is affect to mesa ssreial error sometime at emergency stop)
 I had to update.
Not wanting to use wheezy I installed ubuntu 14.04  in the end all right.
But I should use a userspace component libmodbus3.1.2  I can not use 
halcompile...

The Component is the same ... nothings is change ... I edit the first part 
(whitout header & hal pin) ..

#include /* Standard input/output definitions */
#include 
#include/* Standard types */
#include/* String function definitions */
#include /* File control definitions */
#include /* Error number definitions */
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

#define MAP(n)  mb_mapping->tab_registers[n]
#define INP(g)  mb_mapping->tab_input_registers[g]
#define WRI(nr , val) ret=modbus_write_register(ctx, nr, val)

char *address;
char ad0[4];
char ad1[4];
char ad2[4];
char ad3[4];
char point[2] = ".";
char str[16];
float test = 1502.0;
float test1 = 169.0;
float test2 = 254.0;
float test3 = 000.0;
float test4 = 103.0;
int tt1 = 0;
int tt2 = 0;
int tt3 = 0;
int tt4 = 0;
int hole;
int done = 0;
int firstimeconnect = 0;
int ret = -1;
int CorrectOnOfSign =0;


float kft;
uint16_t FCpy[2];
uint16_t RfCpy[2];



int s = -1;
modbus_t *ctx;
modbus_mapping_t *mb_mapping;
int rc;
int i;
int test_of = 0;
uint8_t *query;
uint8_t In_tab[100];
uint16_t Reg_tab[100];
int header_length;


//void adios(int sig){done = 1;}

float Rcf(uint16_t a, uint16_t b)
{
   uint16_t a1[2];
   float r1;
   a1[0] = a;
   a1[1] = b;
   r1 = modbus_get_float(a1);
   kft = r1;
   return kft;
}

uint16_t SdFloat(float a)
{
modbus_set_float(a, FCpy);
return *FCpy;
}


void user_mainloop(void)  /* start "main" */
{

   /* signal(SIGINT, adios);
signal(SIGTERM, adios);*/


while(!done)/*"start  main loop "  */
 {
usleep(2);


FOR_ALL_INSTS()
{

   testo =1;

if (firstimeconnect == 0){


 hole = floor(jaaddress); //jaaddress;



 if (hole != 0)
   {
tt1 = floor(ja30ip);
tt2 = floor(ja31ip); //test2);
tt3 = floor(ja32ip);
tt4 = floor(ja33ip);
sprintf(ad0, "%hu", tt1); //ja30ip);
   sprintf(ad1, "%hu", tt2); //ja31ip);
   sprintf(ad2, "%hu", tt3); //ja32ip);
sprintf(ad3, "%hu", tt4); //ja33ip);
strcpy(str, ad0);
strcat(str, point);
strcat(str, ad1);
strcat(str, point);
  strcat(str, ad2);
strcat(str, point);
strcat(str, ad3);
   address = str;
   }
 else { address = "0";}


ctx = modbus_new_tcp(address, hole);
query = malloc(MODBUS_TCP_MAX_ADU_LENGTH);
header_length = modbus_get_header_length(ctx);

modbus_set_debug(ctx, false);

mb_mapping = modbus_mapping_new(0,0,200,0);

if (mb_mapping == NULL) {
//fprintf(stderr, "Failed to allocate th

[Emc-users] Lcnc git master... halcompile

2016-11-30 Thread giorgio foga

due to some problems can not be explained
(an 1 year old LCNC Ja9 on Ubuntu 10.04 make unrecognize error, and plus after 
install of JA9 is affect to mesa ssreial error sometime at emergency stop)
 I had to update.
Not wanting to use wheezy I installed ubuntu 14.04  in the end all right.
But I should use a userspace component libmodbus3.1.2  I can not use 
halcompile...

The Component is the same ... nothings is change ... I edit the first part 
(whitout header & hal pin) ..

#include /* Standard input/output definitions */
#include 
#include/* Standard types */
#include/* String function definitions */
#include /* File control definitions */
#include /* Error number definitions */
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

#define MAP(n)  mb_mapping->tab_registers[n]
#define INP(g)  mb_mapping->tab_input_registers[g]
#define WRI(nr , val) ret=modbus_write_register(ctx, nr, val)

char *address;
char ad0[4];
char ad1[4];
char ad2[4];
char ad3[4];
char point[2] = ".";
char str[16];
float test = 1502.0;
float test1 = 169.0;
float test2 = 254.0;
float test3 = 000.0;
float test4 = 103.0;
int tt1 = 0;
int tt2 = 0;
int tt3 = 0;
int tt4 = 0;
int hole;
int done = 0;
int firstimeconnect = 0;
int ret = -1;
int CorrectOnOfSign =0;


float kft;
uint16_t FCpy[2];
uint16_t RfCpy[2];



int s = -1;
modbus_t *ctx;
modbus_mapping_t *mb_mapping;
int rc;
int i;
int test_of = 0;
uint8_t *query;
uint8_t In_tab[100];
uint16_t Reg_tab[100];
int header_length;


//void adios(int sig){done = 1;}

float Rcf(uint16_t a, uint16_t b)
{
   uint16_t a1[2];
   float r1;
   a1[0] = a;
   a1[1] = b;
   r1 = modbus_get_float(a1);
   kft = r1;
   return kft;
}

uint16_t SdFloat(float a)
{
modbus_set_float(a, FCpy);
return *FCpy;
}


void user_mainloop(void)  /* start "main" */
{

   /* signal(SIGINT, adios);
signal(SIGTERM, adios);*/


while(!done)/*"start  main loop "  */
 {
usleep(2);


FOR_ALL_INSTS()
{

   testo =1;

if (firstimeconnect == 0){


 hole = floor(jaaddress); //jaaddress;



 if (hole != 0)
   {
tt1 = floor(ja30ip);
tt2 = floor(ja31ip); //test2);
tt3 = floor(ja32ip);
tt4 = floor(ja33ip);
sprintf(ad0, "%hu", tt1); //ja30ip);
   sprintf(ad1, "%hu", tt2); //ja31ip);
   sprintf(ad2, "%hu", tt3); //ja32ip);
sprintf(ad3, "%hu", tt4); //ja33ip);
strcpy(str, ad0);
strcat(str, point);
strcat(str, ad1);
strcat(str, point);
  strcat(str, ad2);
strcat(str, point);
strcat(str, ad3);
   address = str;
   }
 else { address = "0";}


ctx = modbus_new_tcp(address, hole);
query = malloc(MODBUS_TCP_MAX_ADU_LENGTH);
header_length = modbus_get_header_length(ctx);

modbus_set_debug(ctx, false);

mb_mapping = modbus_mapping_new(0,0,200,0);

if (mb_mapping == NULL) {
//fprintf(stderr, "Failed to allocate the mapping: %s\n",
//modbus_strerror(errno));
modbus_free(ctx);
 //return -1;
}


but obtain these error at compile ...


k1MbServer.c: In function ‘__comp_parse_names’:
/tmp/tmpLc0aCs/k1MbServer.c:573:17: error: ‘names’ undeclared (first use in 
this function)
 names[j] = strtok(p, ",");

/***the same for comp__parse_count/*

/tmp/cc1kjkzO.o: in function "user_mainloop":
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:210: undefined reference  "floor"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:216: undefined reference  "floor"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:217: undefined reference  "floor"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:218: undefined reference  "floor"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:219: undefined reference  "floor"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:236: undefined reference  "modbus_new_tcp"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:238: undefined reference  
"modbus_get_header_length"
/tmp/tmp_RtXP2/k1MbServer.comp:240: undefined reference  "modbus_set_debug"

//and other about modbus

. Any suggest about?? ...

andypugh talk about halcompile bug  is possible there are a path problem??

I've install on /home/linuxcnc-dev  and libmodbus is on /usr/...
for compile I've used these command:

cd linuxcnc-dev
. ./rip- or . ./scripts/rip-xxx (in the same way I've compile my custom 
kins with success)
halcompile --install k1MbServer.comp (same resutl halcompile --compile 
k1MbServer.comp)

regards
giorgio







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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-27 Thread giorgio foga

Tanks Erik for your aswer ...

As I Write yesterday for use halcompile I run usually "sudo halcompile" .. 
but my installation is on linuxcnc-dev  so nothings appear in root path 
 using a siply "halcompile --compile xx" run perfect ...

Any how I try your suggest for upgrade my experience

Tanks A Lot

Giorgio

Da: Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net>
Inviato: domenica 27 novembre 2016 11.45
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

On 27.11.16 10:20, giorgio foga wrote:
> About halcompile  in normal installation for some comp need sudo
> halcopile  but in these case (the install is not in root dir) with
> sudo halcompile return : error: halcompile command not found!!

Have you tried:

$ locate halcompile

That should show the path to it, if it's installed, and the machine has
been rebooted since installation, or:

$ sudo updatedb

has been run instead. (No need to do both.) Then:

$ echo $PATH

will show whether your shell knows the way there, and if it doesn't you
can add it in .bashrc, or better yet, .profile, if you're using bash.

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-27 Thread giorgio foga

About halcompile  in normal installation for some comp need sudo halcopile 
 but in these case (the install is not in root dir) with sudo halcompile 
return : error: halcompile command not found!!


Norma isn't install in root dir . I apologize to All is the first time for 
me that I face that such of problem..


Regards

giorgio





Da: giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
Inviato: sabato 26 novembre 2016 16.23
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

I have only 1 install on ubuntu 14.04 and normally run whitout guy with 
nogui script as you suggest me in the past.

I try using bash script but probably I use wrong folder (Not see git in my 
path... I must control... I'm not in front of machine. ).

Tomorrow morning I controlli my path.


Other question
After Rip scrip not find halcompile command?? I use wrong path??

Regards
Giorgio

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Inviato: sabato 26 novembre 2016 15.52.26
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

> If you launch the chooser from the RIP environment,
> the shortcut will launch the RIP LinuxCNC version
Yes --- but there is no guarantee that the environment
is set as required.

If you
  1) have a run-in-place build
  2) source the rip-environment script in a shell
  3) then run linuxcnc (with no args) from that shell
 (or any shell with the required rip-enviroment
  settings)
then the config picker will create a desktop icon.

For example, with a RIP build root directory named
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev', the desktop file created
(for the axis sim example) will be:

$ cat ~/Desktop/axis.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=LinuxCNC-sim-axis
Exec=/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/scripts/linuxcnc 
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/configs/sim/axis/axis.ini'
Type=Application
Comment=
Icon=linuxcncicon

However, startup using this icon does not source the
required rip-environment script.  If you have a deb install
in addition to a RIP build, this might or might not work
depending upon the version-similarity of the two
configurations.

Knowledgeable linux users (using bash by default) could use
~/.profile or ~.bashrc to set the appropriate run-in-place
environment but there is a great potential for problems if
you have both a deb install and a run-in-place build on the
same machine.

The safest means to run a hand-built LinuxCNC without the
need for separately setting up the environment is to make
and install a deb as documented:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html#_building_debian_packages

ref:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/31881-7i77-5i25-hm2-pci-unloaded?start=40#83286

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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-27 Thread giorgio foga

Sorry at all ... I try to launch my config with bash script but with wrong path 
 so not run at all 


Regards

Giorgio



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Inviato: sabato 26 novembre 2016 16.23
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

I have only 1 install on ubuntu 14.04 and normally run whitout guy with 
nogui script as you suggest me in the past.

I try using bash script but probably I use wrong folder (Not see git in my 
path... I must control... I'm not in front of machine. ).

Tomorrow morning I controlli my path.


Other question
After Rip scrip not find halcompile command?? I use wrong path??

Regards
Giorgio

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Inviato: sabato 26 novembre 2016 15.52.26
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

> If you launch the chooser from the RIP environment,
> the shortcut will launch the RIP LinuxCNC version
Yes --- but there is no guarantee that the environment
is set as required.

If you
  1) have a run-in-place build
  2) source the rip-environment script in a shell
  3) then run linuxcnc (with no args) from that shell
 (or any shell with the required rip-enviroment
  settings)
then the config picker will create a desktop icon.

For example, with a RIP build root directory named
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev', the desktop file created
(for the axis sim example) will be:

$ cat ~/Desktop/axis.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=LinuxCNC-sim-axis
Exec=/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/scripts/linuxcnc 
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/configs/sim/axis/axis.ini'
Type=Application
Comment=
Icon=linuxcncicon

However, startup using this icon does not source the
required rip-environment script.  If you have a deb install
in addition to a RIP build, this might or might not work
depending upon the version-similarity of the two
configurations.

Knowledgeable linux users (using bash by default) could use
~/.profile or ~.bashrc to set the appropriate run-in-place
environment but there is a great potential for problems if
you have both a deb install and a run-in-place build on the
same machine.

The safest means to run a hand-built LinuxCNC without the
need for separately setting up the environment is to make
and install a deb as documented:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html#_building_debian_packages

ref:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/31881-7i77-5i25-hm2-pci-unloaded?start=40#83286

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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-26 Thread giorgio foga

I have only 1 install on ubuntu 14.04 and normally run whitout guy with 
nogui script as you suggest me in the past.

I try using bash script but probably I use wrong folder (Not see git in my 
path... I must control... I'm not in front of machine. ).

Tomorrow morning I controlli my path.


Other question
After Rip scrip not find halcompile command?? I use wrong path??

Regards
Giorgio

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Inviato: sabato 26 novembre 2016 15.52.26
A: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

> If you launch the chooser from the RIP environment,
> the shortcut will launch the RIP LinuxCNC version
Yes --- but there is no guarantee that the environment
is set as required.

If you
  1) have a run-in-place build
  2) source the rip-environment script in a shell
  3) then run linuxcnc (with no args) from that shell
 (or any shell with the required rip-enviroment
  settings)
then the config picker will create a desktop icon.

For example, with a RIP build root directory named
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev', the desktop file created
(for the axis sim example) will be:

$ cat ~/Desktop/axis.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=LinuxCNC-sim-axis
Exec=/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/scripts/linuxcnc 
'/home/git/linuxcnc-dev/configs/sim/axis/axis.ini'
Type=Application
Comment=
Icon=linuxcncicon

However, startup using this icon does not source the
required rip-environment script.  If you have a deb install
in addition to a RIP build, this might or might not work
depending upon the version-similarity of the two
configurations.

Knowledgeable linux users (using bash by default) could use
~/.profile or ~.bashrc to set the appropriate run-in-place
environment but there is a great potential for problems if
you have both a deb install and a run-in-place build on the
same machine.

The safest means to run a hand-built LinuxCNC without the
need for separately setting up the environment is to make
and install a deb as documented:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html#_building_debian_packages

ref:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/31881-7i77-5i25-hm2-pci-unloaded?start=40#83286

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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-26 Thread giorgio foga

Normally is right these. But in my case I have only master installed on 
linuxcnc-dev. If close the session the script not work.

Regards
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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout 
rip-environment script

Might be easier depending on what you are trying to do..  launch the config 
picker, select the config you want and then check the 'create short cut on 
desktop' or whatever the check box says on the config picker.

Then the shortcut launches linuxcnc normally

Sam


On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:26:03 +
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> On 26 November 2016 at 09:14, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
>
> > Question 2)there are a simple way to run Lcnc whitout .rip-environment 
> > script??
>
> There is an easy way, but it is (apparently) not recommended because
> it makes uninstall and updates difficult.
>
> There is an extra switch for ./configure:
> ./configure --with-realtime=upace --prefix=/usr
>
> That will put all the files in the "normal" place rather than the
> run-in-place directory.
>
> I would suggest waiting a while to see if anyone can say what the
> "approved" way is. Though the chaps in the US are likely to be
> distracted by Thanksgiving this weekend, I think.
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Re: [Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-26 Thread giorgio foga

Tanks A lot AndyPugh 

ok for these ... waiting for these  but other problem have encountered ... 
halcompile command not found !! why?? I'm using it in wrong dir??

And good Tanksgiving to all .

Regards

giorgio

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On 26 November 2016 at 09:14, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:

> Question 2)there are a simple way to run Lcnc whitout .rip-environment 
> script??

There is an easy way, but it is (apparently) not recommended because
it makes uninstall and updates difficult.

There is an extra switch for ./configure:
./configure --with-realtime=upace --prefix=/usr

That will put all the files in the "normal" place rather than the
run-in-place directory.

I would suggest waiting a while to see if anyone can say what the
"approved" way is. Though the chaps in the US are likely to be
distracted by Thanksgiving this weekend, I think.

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[Emc-users] run Lcnc ubuntu 14.04 rt_preempt 4.1.5 whithout rip-environment script

2016-11-26 Thread giorgio foga

As a title, I install successfull (with some initial panic ... first time for 
me) Lcnc master branch in ubuntu 14.04 64bit rt4.1.5.


For black friday 2 question at 1 post Get the super discount  []


Question 1) in the xconf not find my processor i3 family ... so in the 
futur I would install more new rt krnel  thes give me chance to gave better 
performance?? {actually base thread 35.000 servo 35.000}


Question 2)there are a simple way to run Lcnc whitout .rip-environment 
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Re: [Emc-users] queuebuster in 2.7.x ubuntu 10.04

2016-10-28 Thread giorgio foga

I've syncronize my temporary line in gcode ... well ..

But these question

is_callable(oworld.queuebuster) = FALSE

because I try to use G70 inside a oworld but at stop motion /* these is
normal?? or is because queuebuster not work??*/

is valid

regards

giorgio

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I have remapped queuebuster on G70 command

If run LCNC on terminal obtain:

is_callable(remap.queuebuster) = TRUE

at the start of my ngc ... then al other time to call G70 obtain these other
messages:

is_callable(oworld.queuebuster) = FALSE

because I try to use G70 inside a oworld but at stop motion /* these is
normal?? or is because queuebuster not work??*/

These because I try to change some quote from mycomponent with
#<_hal[mycomp.xvalue]> mechanism inside gcode . the quote changing inside
osub all work but I'm not able to control temporary line of changing ...
sometime #<_hal[mycomp.xvalue]> is renew sometime is the sema as last but it
must be new and different every time...

any suggest?

regards

Giorgio
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Re: [Emc-users] update from 2.8 pre ja9 to latest on ubuntu 10.04 ... pyton3 problem??

2016-10-28 Thread giorgio foga

Explain me better my problem is mesa error 13 when put in emergency the machine 
...

PCW has suggested me to update for solve the problem ... because in new version 
some delay are increase to 20ns in these way mesa card not intercept the 
error


Other chanches for my is obtain the name of file to modify ... in these case I 
can increase the delay by me self and solve my problem with recompiling my old 
2.8preja9 .


regards

Giorgio



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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] update from 2.8 pre ja9 to latest on ubuntu 10.04 ... 
pyton3 problem??

The master branch does not support Ubuntu 10.04.

This was proposed over a year ago and no developers offered to maintain the
build on 10.04.

https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net/msg15177.html

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Re: [Emc-users] update from 2.8 pre ja9 to latest on ubuntu 10.04 ... pyton3 problem??

2016-10-28 Thread giorgio foga

Thanks a lot  but is possible to upgrade via builbot whitout problem.

 regards

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Oggetto: Re: [Emc-users] update from 2.8 pre ja9 to latest on ubuntu 10.04 ... 
pyton3 problem??

The master branch does not support Ubuntu 10.04.

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build on 10.04.

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[Emc-users] update from 2.8 pre ja9 to latest on ubuntu 10.04 ... pyton3 problem??

2016-10-28 Thread giorgio foga

I have already ask in LCNC forum but have not a convincing answer ... in fact, 
who told me he had a chance to test ...


My machine have a lot of customisation and I'm afraid it does not work.


If update from 2.8 pre ja9 I have problem with python3 (in ubuntu 10.04 only 
python 2.7 is possible)

I can have some other issue if update into my ubuntu 10.04 SO??


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[Emc-users] queuebuster in 2.7.x ubuntu 10.04

2016-10-28 Thread giorgio foga

I have remapped  queuebuster on G70 command 


If run LCNC on terminal obtain:


is_callable(remap.queuebuster) = TRUE


at the start of my ngc ... then al other time to call G70 obtain these other 
messages:


is_callable(oworld.queuebuster) = FALSE


because I try to use G70 inside a oworld but at stop motion  /* these is 
normal?? or is because queuebuster not work??*/


These because I try to change some quote from mycomponent with   
#<_hal[mycomp.xvalue]> mechanism inside gcode . the quote changing inside 
osub  all work but I'm not able to control temporary line of changing ... 
sometime   #<_hal[mycomp.xvalue]> is renew sometime is the sema as last but it 
must be new and different every time...


any suggest?


regards

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[Emc-users] change ngc program..

2016-05-13 Thread giorgio foga

which file must see and study for make an c++or  phyton app to  change ngc 
program in Lcnc Ja session whit nogui?
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Re: [Emc-users] Joint-Axis Branch?

2016-05-13 Thread giorgio foga

for my epirience 9 axes...

> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:04:11 -0400
> From: zuerc...@embarqmail.com
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> Subject: [Emc-users] Joint-Axis Branch?
> 
> I have a question, that I can't say that I've ever seen definitively 
> answered. I know that axis are limited to 9, but is there the same limit for 
> joints? If it is limited to 9 in regulare Linuxcnc, is this different in the 
> Joints-Axis branch? 
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Re: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem

2016-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

Thanks A lot for the response  It works fine  I had not thought it was 
possible to enter a bash script in DISPLAY 

regards
Giorgio

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> From: dgarr...@panix.com
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:14:37 +
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem
> 
> You can use any executable program for [DISPLAY]DISPLAY=
> LinuxCNC will quit when the named program exits.
> 
> Example for a file named nogui.sh in config directory:
> 
> $ cat nogui.sh
> #!/bin/bash
> function bye () {
>   echo bye
>   exit 0
> }
> trap bye SIGTERM SIGHUP
> tail -f /dev/null &
> wait $!
> 
> $ chmod 755 nogui.sh
> 
> Ini file excerpts:
> 
> [DISPLAY]
> DISPLAY = ./nogui.sh
> ...
> [HAL]
> HALUI = halui
> ...
> 
> 
> You can stop LinuxCNC by sending a hangup signal to nogui.sh:
> 
> $ pkill -HUP nogui.sh
> 
> You can also start independent programs (with a delay)
> from an ini file:
> [APPLICATIONS]
> DELAY = number_of_seconds_to_wait
> APP = name_of_program_in_path
> 
> Ref:
> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-config.html#_applications_section
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Re: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem

2016-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

Thanks A lot for your time.

As you I make the same experiment . in the same way  but not try these..

One way might be to add a HAL file to the list that uses loadusr -W to
> load a Python comp that just sits there waiting for halui pins to
> appear.

I think it is a working solution 

regards
Giorgio

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> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:10:56 -0400
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem
> 
> I have done a bit of experimenting.
> 
> It is easy to set halui as the display, then remove the line HALUI = halui.
> You then get a LinuxCNC instance with no GUI. It is best to start it
> from the command line, or else there is no tidy way to quit it.
> 
> The problem is that halui does not know to call a postgui halfile. So
> you need to find a way to delay trying to net the halui pins until
> halui is loaded.
> 
> One way might be to add a HAL file to the list that uses loadusr -W to
> load a Python comp that just sits there waiting for halui pins to
> appear.
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem

2016-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

Actually I use linuxcncsrh in DISPLAY section and than all (halui and my.comp) 
in custom_postgui  but I try that these solution is not the better  I 
have open a telnet connection too and my.comp is connected over same line (but 
other port) . 

I try another solution if possible 

regards
Giorgio

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> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 10:15:40 +0200
> Subject: [Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem
> 
> I try to run halui interfaces with no gui and at same time loadusr my.comp 
>  if i use axis gui all works fine  but without gui my.comp or hali 
> not works 
> 
> with axis gui I put all in custom_postgui 
> 
> whithout gui I try to put all or in my.hal or in custom.hal ... I try to use 
> twopass on in ini file but the result are or duplicate component halui  
> or pin.halui not exist  sems that Lcnc not load at all halui interfaces 
> without gui 
> 
> There are some trick to make these possible?? (starting my.comp and halui 
> without gui interfaces??)
> 
> regards
> Giorgio
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[Emc-users] halui interfaces with no gui problem

2016-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

I try to run halui interfaces with no gui and at same time loadusr my.comp  
if i use axis gui all works fine  but without gui my.comp or hali not works 


with axis gui I put all in custom_postgui 

whithout gui I try to put all or in my.hal or in custom.hal ... I try to use 
twopass on in ini file but the result are or duplicate component halui  or 
pin.halui not exist  sems that Lcnc not load at all halui interfaces 
without gui 

There are some trick to make these possible?? (starting my.comp and halui 
without gui interfaces??)

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Re: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs

2016-05-11 Thread giorgio foga

Sorry for delay  really in my personal experience (only 6 j1800) i've try 
the trik of install generic vga card and disable driver matherborad  but I 
think the problem is not only the driver card  my j1800 are without cooling 
fan  in one of these I mount cooling fun with better performance and and 
lower real time problems  Actually I use with better success i3 cpu . 
(I use different model and brand)

For shure I use some industrial pc case (VIP industrial constructor) with j1800 
and atom processor with real better performance and stability  than generic 
motherboard (like asus, gigabite and other )..
I got the idea that the problem is a set of items, such as drive devices 
mounted on the motherboard, the power supply of the devices and the motherboard 
power supply  and of course the quality of the input voltage. ... All these 
problems on industrial boards are taken into account more seriously than the 
cards for pc desk.

but I'm not an expert ... mine is just an opinion 


Regards
Giorgio


> From: albertson.ch...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 08:55:53 -0700
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs
> 
> If that is the case, put in a generic VGA card and disable the built-in
> graphics.
> 
> The better option, although much more work is to read the video driver code
> carefully and remove the offending parts, such as spin-waits or other
> operations with interrupts disabled or whatever.  Video drivers are
> generally written for performance, not for real-time.  Do it once and it's
> usable by others.
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Mark Johnsen <m...@ijohnsen.com> wrote:
> 
> > I had heard mixed reviews on the j1800 and thought someone identified the
> > video driver as an issue?  But, don't recall.  Mark
> >
> > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:11:29 +0200
> > > From: giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it>
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller EMC <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Sorry ... my expirience with j1800 is vewry bad  ... works it work 
> > > but sometime it have realtime problem . (1/2 time every 16 -48 hour).
> > >
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> > > Giorgio
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Re: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs

2016-05-06 Thread giorgio foga

Sorry ... my expirience with j1800 is vewry bad  ... works it work  but 
sometime it have realtime problem . (1/2 time every 16 -48 hour).

Regards
Giorgio

> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 07:17:35 -0700
> From: m...@ijohnsen.com
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs
> 
> Fry's promocode sale today and tomorrow for a J1800 for $179.  I believe
> the J1800 has been used successfully.
> 
> Seems like a decent deal to me.  By the time I had my D525MW built with
> case, harddrive, and ram, was close to that and I had to assembly it.
> 
> http://imgur.com/PX4A64B
> 
> You need the fry's promo-code to get the price and will need to sign up if
> you are already not signed up.
> 
> Couple of SSDs I had looked at, haven't use:
> http://amzn.to/1SRQ1ZO
> http://amzn.to/23uNsP9
> 
> Oh - I am currently using an unsed ADATA Ebay-d SSD, but I read long after
> I bought it to not by used SSD drives, good advice I'll use in the future...
> 
> Good Luck,
> Mark
> 
> 
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 01:55:31 -0500
> > From: Danny Miller 
> > Subject: [Emc-users] Appropriate PCs
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller EMC 
> > Message-ID: <572c3fe3.9090...@austin.rr.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > I understand the computational requirements are not stressful, but I
> > know some have management issues.
> >
> > Right now I have a old Dell computer with one of the chipsets
> > specifically listed as "bad".  I'm running Linux RT and LinuxCNC 2.7.4
> > with a 7i92 card but the latency report is pretty high.  I don't have
> > any love for this PC anyhow.  Had it crash once, may be going south
> > anyhow.   Wanna get a small SSHD too.
> >
> > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues
> >
> > I went to Fry's looking for their "clearance computers" and there was an
> > HP 5700 and Lenovo M57 and an M58.  Looked 'em up, that's Intel Q963
> > Express and  Intel Q35 chipset respectively.
> >
> > But the above URL says all the new Intel chipsets have SMI which may
> > cause latency problems.
> >
> > Anybody experienced opinions on this?
> >
> > Danny
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Lcnc 2.7 DISPLAY = halui is not a valid option?

2016-05-06 Thread giorgio foga

THE SITUATION

put the loadusr halui in custom_postgui.hal file works 

put the loadusr halui in custom.hal file NOT works 

Thanks Again AndyPugh

Regards
Giorgio

> From: bodge...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 11:56:21 +0100
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lcnc 2.7 DISPLAY = halui is not a valid option?
> 
> On 6 May 2016 at 11:43, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> 
> > I put my halui connection in customhal file . is wrong these?
> 
> 
> I am not sure, it's an unusual application.
> 
> I think that when I did it I connected things by hand after startup, as it
> was just a test.
> 
> You can't connect to halui pins until halui has loaded, basically.
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Re: [Emc-users] Lcnc 2.7 DISPLAY = halui is not a valid option?

2016-05-06 Thread giorgio foga

I put my halui connection in customhal file . is wrong these?

regards
giorgio

> From: bodge...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:46:32 +0100
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lcnc 2.7 DISPLAY = halui is not a valid option?
> 
> On 6 May 2016 at 09:34, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Is not possible to set DISPLAY = halui??
> >
> > It is possible, because I have done it as an experiment.
> 
> You may well need to put the halui connections in the POSTGUI halfile.
> 
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[Emc-users] Lcnc 2.7 DISPLAY = halui is not a valid option?

2016-05-06 Thread giorgio foga

I use for some period linuxcncrsh  but isn't the best solution for me . 
so I try to use DISPLAY = halui in ini file in order to have my LinuxCNC 
working machine without any user interface 

but obtaion only duplicate component name error . so I comment out in 
[HALUI]
#HALUI = halui ... but at these point Lcnc not see halui pin at all and 
terminate with . halui.machine.on pin doesnt exist error 

Is not possible to set DISPLAY = halui?? .  there are some other option 
display? (example delete entyre [DISPLAY] section??)

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Re: [Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token

2016-05-06 Thread giorgio foga

@andyPugh no ... no missing delete  for first I have delete all modbus 
folder THAN i have install libmodbus3.1.2 ...

the magic solution I gave from Your discussion with ArkEye  in some 
discussion point you linking in the post the halcompile parser file  I read 
it!! 

There are 2 option for linking library not only one as I read from the html doc 
. I choose the secondone and all works like a charm!!!

so even if you have not helped me today I have to thank you for the help you 
provided in the past ;)


Regards
Giorgio

> From: bodge...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:51:56 +0100
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users]  /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: 
> error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
> 
> On 4 May 2016 at 14:39, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> 
> >  #define MODBUS_RTU_RS485 1"   nr.35 row . 
> > but I'm try to connect via TCP ... no-one macro for RS line is used from my 
> > code...
> 
> The .h file is #included and so the compiler will try to parse the
> code even if it isn't going to be run.
> You _might_ be able to get things to compile if you take out the
> #include modbus-rtu.h from  /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus.h:283
> 
> But better would be to fix the libmodbus installation. I think you
> might have really messed things up with "(previously I delete modbus
> folder from /usr/include & /usr/local/include)"
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token

2016-05-04 Thread giorgio foga

@ andypug:  row 34 & 35 of modbus-rtu.h "#define MODBUS_RTU_RS232 0 #define 
MODBUS_RTU_RS485 1" nothing to do with my file.

Now I try to re-install libbmodbus 3.1.2  the error menthioned abose is 
disappear  but now I have a "undefined reference to . " every macros 
used by *ctx .

At these point I think is a version / linking library.

Regards
Giorgio

> From: bodge...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:03:56 +0100
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users]  /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: 
> error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
> 
> On 4 May 2016 at 11:49, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> > /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ 
> > token
> 
> What does line 35 of that file look like?
> 
> I don't see any problem in the libmodbus source. (this is not actually
> a LinuxCNC file)
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token

2016-05-04 Thread giorgio foga

sorry ... fake email

> From: giorgiof...@hotmail.it
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 15:39:33 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: 
> expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
> 
> I try to re-install libmodbus 3.1.2 (previously I delete modbus folder from 
> /usr/include & /usr/local/include) ... now there is not the error mentioned 
> above, but now modbus.h is not recognise at all by ubuntu .
> 
> 
> @andypugh  "  #define MODBUS_RTU_RS232 0
>  #define MODBUS_RTU_RS485 1"   nr.35 row . 
> but I'm try to connect via TCP ... no-one macro for RS line is used from my 
> code.. (maybe listen macro ... but is impossible not use it) ... 
> 
> > From: bodge...@gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:03:56 +0100
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users]/usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: 
> > error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
> > 
> > On 4 May 2016 at 11:49, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> > > /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before 
> > > ‘->’ token
> > 
> > What does line 35 of that file look like?
> > 
> > I don't see any problem in the libmodbus source. (this is not actually
> > a LinuxCNC file)
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: [Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token

2016-05-04 Thread giorgio foga

I try to re-install libmodbus 3.1.2 (previously I delete modbus folder from 
/usr/include & /usr/local/include) ... now there is not the error mentioned 
above, but now modbus.h is not recognise at all by ubuntu .


@andypugh  "  #define MODBUS_RTU_RS232 0
 #define MODBUS_RTU_RS485 1"   nr.35 row . but 
I'm try to connect via TCP ... no-one macro for RS line is used from my 
code.. (maybe listen macro ... but is impossible not use it) ... 

> From: bodge...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:03:56 +0100
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users]  /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: 
> error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
> 
> On 4 May 2016 at 11:49, giorgio foga <giorgiof...@hotmail.it> wrote:
> > /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ 
> > token
> 
> What does line 35 of that file look like?
> 
> I don't see any problem in the libmodbus source. (this is not actually
> a LinuxCNC file)
> 
> -- 
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[Emc-users] /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token

2016-05-04 Thread giorgio foga

At first --compile of my new usercomp  for make LCNC server modbus  obtain this 
error ... I have really not ideas how to find the solution. (after 6 hour 
of work modbus file seems ok  )

The file is attach in relate post on lcnc forum ... here ... 
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/24-hal-components/30913-modbus-server-comp-modbus-rtu-h-35-error-expecte


halcompile --compile --userspace  k1MbServer.comp
gcc -Os -g -I. -I/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/include -I. 
-I/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/include -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -mhard-float 
-DRTAI=3 -fno-fast-math -mieee-fp -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -DRTAPI 
-D_GNU_SOURCE -Drealtime -D__MODULE__ -I/usr/include/linuxcnc 
-Wframe-larger-than=2560 -URTAPI -U__MODULE__ -DULAPI -Os  -o k1MbServer 
/tmp/tmp_VFDTq/k1MbServer.c -Wl,-rpath,/lib -L/lib -llinuxcnchal 
In file included from /usr/local/include/modbus/modbus.h:283,
 from k1MbServer.comp:125:
/usr/local/include/modbus/modbus-rtu.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘->’ token
k1MbServer.comp: In function ‘user_mainloop’:
k1MbServer.comp:264: warning: ‘return’ with a value, in function returning void
make: *** [k1MbServer] Error 1

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Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?

2016-04-29 Thread giorgio foga

For shure "   I think Ethercat is an entirely different animal than Modbus."  I 
think these too ... but for example if you whont use toshiba inverter  or 
some other electrical device not ethercat  Is better to have an other bus 
option  isn't right?

Regards
Giorgio

> From: linuxcncro...@gmail.com
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:01:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> 
> True, but in practice between a fast Modbus TCP slave and Classicladder 
> running as master, the comm turn around time between master and a fast 
> slave is in the 20-30 ms range which is plenty fast for general real 
> time I/O control.Not nearly fast enough for motion control but that 
> is a different subject.   Modbus was never designed for motion/servo 
> control.   I think Ethercat is an entirely different animal than Modbus.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 4/29/2016 3:37 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> > I see these  but works only as userspace  I try to work and play 
> > with a custom comp and at the end I try to realize a rt_comp for these .
> > I have some machine to control remotely in text mode  linuxcncrsh have 
> > some problem with shutdown command and in general is not it is not very 
> > fast in the answers .
> > Actually I play with ethercat but I would to have another available bus
> >
> >> From: linuxcncro...@gmail.com
> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:09:50 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> >>
> >> I'm not aware of what the end goal for your Modbus application, however
> >> be aware that the Modbus RTU/TCP interface for Classic Ladder does
> >> support Modbus slave and that allows an interface to Hal as well.I
> >> tested that at one time but it has been years ago now.  I suspect that
> >> it still works fine.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 4/28/2016 6:09 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> >>> If linuxcnc tell servo which path it should follow or if servo ask should 
> >>> not matter. It might work, the important part is linuxcnc provide the 
> >>> path control signals.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> So if I want to do LinuxCNC Slave . I have to create a component, 
> >>>> you can or are there restrictions?
> >>>> Anyway now I try .
> >>>>
> >>>> If have positive response I post the comp on LcncForum and here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tanks A lot.
> >>>> Giorgio
> >>>>
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:47:56 +0200
> >>>>> From: nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com
> >>>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would guess Linuxcnc always is the master.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I not understand if there is this possibility .. in my test I 
> >>>>>> receive only a list of error (debug level 1) .
> >>>>>> If someone have use with succes mb2hal in slave conf ... can suggest 
> >>>>>> my the right way to do this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Giorgio
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Re: [Emc-users] JA branch is merged into master?

2016-04-29 Thread giorgio foga

no  I use .profile file with bash script for launch JA  

I use mingetty for automatic login at startup.

Regards
Giorgio

> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> From: dgarr...@panix.com
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:33:56 +
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JA branch is merged into master?
> 
> > if You try to use linuxcncrsh after a shutdown command my user
> > is unable to reconnet to the machine that itbring shutd
> > own command . for solve these problem I shutdown the PC
> > of machine (whit ssh) and make an wol command to power on again
> > the machine
> 
> 
> This is probably not a joints_axesNN-specific problem.
> 
> It seems you have a startup mechanism for linuxcnc on the host
> that works at power-up.  (maybe rc.local? you didn't specify)
> 
> Whatever mechanism you use to start could be scripted to start 
> remotely.
> 
> Example (joints_axes13, run-in-place, lhost==u41 is remote):
> 
> Sessions in chronological order:
> #---
> #Terminal_1
> # cat the startup script:
> 
> $ ssh lhost cat /home/git/linuxcnc-dev/lstartup.sh 
> #!/bin/bash
> # RIP (Run-In-Place) example
> 
> LHOME=/home/git/linuxcnc-dev   # my git directory
> INI=~/linuxcnc/configs/ltest/ltest.ini # linuxcncrsh ini
> 
> cd $LHOME
> source scripts/rip-environment
> 
> echo "Starting linuxcnc with $INI"
> linuxcnc $INI
> echo "Finished linuxcnc with $INI"
> 
> # run the startup script
> $ ssh lhost /home/git/linuxcnc-dev/lstartup.sh
> Starting linuxcnc with /home/dgarrett/linuxcnc/configs/ltest/ltest.ini
> 
> #---
> #Terminal_2
> $ telnet lhost 5007
> Trying 192.168.0.41...
> Connected to u41.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> hello EMC me 1
> HELLO ACK EMCNETSVR 1.1
> set enable EMCTOO 
> set enable EMCTOO
> get enable
> get enable
> ENABLE ON
> shutdown
> shutdown
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> 
> #---
> #Terminal_1
> Finished linuxcnc with /home/dgarrett/linuxcnc/configs/ltest/ltest.ini
> $ 
> $ # start again:
> $ ssh lhost /home/git/linuxcnc-dev/lstartup.sh
> Starting linuxcnc with /home/dgarrett/linuxcnc/configs/ltest/ltest.ini
> 
> #---
> #Terminal_2
> $ telnet lhost 5007
> Trying 192.168.0.41...
> Connected to u41.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> hello EMC me 1
> HELLO ACK EMCNETSVR 1.1
> set enable EMCTOO
> set enable EMCTOO
> get enable
> get enable
> ENABLE ON
> 
> #---
> Notes:
> 1) In the example, ssh has been configured for automatic login
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?

2016-04-29 Thread giorgio foga

I have 6 machine (server-slave) to control remotely from 1 pc set as master 
 mb2hal not connect to these master (client) pc.

I try to use mb2hal as master to comunicate to plc or drive slave  works 
very well 

Regards
Giorgio

> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:09:20 +0200
> From: nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> 
> If linuxcnc tell servo which path it should follow or if servo ask should not 
> matter. It might work, the important part is linuxcnc provide the path 
> control signals.
> 
> 
> > So if I want to do LinuxCNC Slave . I have to create a component, you 
> > can or are there restrictions?
> > Anyway now I try .
> > 
> > If have positive response I post the comp on LcncForum and here.
> > 
> > Tanks A lot.
> > Giorgio
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:47:56 +0200
> > > From: nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com
> > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> > > 
> > > I would guess Linuxcnc always is the master.
> > > 
> > > > I not understand if there is this possibility .. in my test I 
> > > > receive only a list of error (debug level 1) . 
> > > > If someone have use with succes mb2hal in slave conf ... can suggest my 
> > > > the right way to do this?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > Giorgio
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Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?

2016-04-29 Thread giorgio foga

I see these  but works only as userspace  I try to work and play with a 
custom comp and at the end I try to realize a rt_comp for these . 
I have some machine to control remotely in text mode  linuxcncrsh have some 
problem with shutdown command and in general is not it is not very fast in the 
answers .  
Actually I play with ethercat but I would to have another available bus

> From: linuxcncro...@gmail.com
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:09:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> 
> I'm not aware of what the end goal for your Modbus application, however 
> be aware that the Modbus RTU/TCP interface for Classic Ladder does 
> support Modbus slave and that allows an interface to Hal as well.I 
> tested that at one time but it has been years ago now.  I suspect that 
> it still works fine.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 4/28/2016 6:09 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> > If linuxcnc tell servo which path it should follow or if servo ask should 
> > not matter. It might work, the important part is linuxcnc provide the path 
> > control signals.
> >
> >
> >> So if I want to do LinuxCNC Slave . I have to create a component, you 
> >> can or are there restrictions?
> >> Anyway now I try .
> >>
> >> If have positive response I post the comp on LcncForum and here.
> >>
> >> Tanks A lot.
> >> Giorgio
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:47:56 +0200
> >>> From: nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com
> >>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> >>>
> >>> I would guess Linuxcnc always is the master.
> >>>
>  I not understand if there is this possibility .. in my test I 
>  receive only a list of error (debug level 1) .
>  If someone have use with succes mb2hal in slave conf ... can suggest my 
>  the right way to do this?
> 
>  Regards
>  Giorgio
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Re: [Emc-users] JA branch is merged into master?

2016-04-29 Thread giorgio foga

I use from 2 mounth every day 3 delta and 3 scara robot (as printer) with JA 
without problem  I've only an issue  if You try to use linuxcncrsh 
after a shutdown command my user is unable to reconnet to the machine that 
itbring shutdown command . for solve these problem I shutdown the PC of 
machine (whit ssh) and make an wol command to power on again the machine

Regards
Giorgio

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> From: j...@gnipsel.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:32:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JA branch is merged into master?
> 
> As quick as I can finger out why I can't build a rt-preemt kernel I'll 
> be testing it... I've followed my instructions to the letter 27 times... 
> I want to test it with my tiny little gantry in the making.
> 
> JT
> 
> On 4/28/2016 5:44 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> > On 04/28/2016 04:32 PM, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote:
> >> hi folks
> >> To someone how knows it, JA(13) is in master?
> >> Regards
> >> Rck
> > Not yet, but we'd love to have people test the branch and report how it
> > works/breaks for them.
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?

2016-04-28 Thread giorgio foga

So if I want to do LinuxCNC Slave . I have to create a component, you can 
or are there restrictions?
Anyway now I try .

If have positive response I post the comp on LcncForum and here.

Tanks A lot.
Giorgio

> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:47:56 +0200
> From: nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?
> 
> I would guess Linuxcnc always is the master.
> 
> > I not understand if there is this possibility .. in my test I receive 
> > only a list of error (debug level 1) . 
> > If someone have use with succes mb2hal in slave conf ... can suggest my the 
> > right way to do this?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Giorgio
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[Emc-users] modbus2hal is possible to setting as SLAVE?

2016-04-27 Thread giorgio foga

I not understand if there is this possibility .. in my test I receive only 
a list of error (debug level 1) . 
If someone have use with succes mb2hal in slave conf ... can suggest my the 
right way to do this?

Regards
Giorgio
  
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Re: [Emc-users] RFID Tag or Barcode into LinuxCNC

2016-03-24 Thread giorgio foga

for so little in the forum . you 've helped me so much more ... many thanks 
to you for what you do on LCNC forum .

regards
Giorgio


> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> From: j...@gnipsel.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 06:04:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] RFID Tag or Barcode into LinuxCNC
> 
> Thanks, I didn't think of using a M1xx I'll give that a whirl.
> 
> JT
> 
> On 3/24/2016 3:20 AM, giorgio foga wrote:
> >
> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> From: j...@gnipsel.com
> >> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:13:58 -0500
> >> Subject: [Emc-users] RFID Tag or Barcode into LinuxCNC
> >>
> >> Anyone read a RFID tag or barcode and use that to run a subroutine in
> >> LinuxCNC?
> >>
> >> JT
> >>
> >>
> > No but is no so difficult. Mxxx code with bash code to read a specific 
> > mybarcodefile.txt file ... after everery reading cancell all
> > Read barcode with terminal bash routine and writing the output on 
> > mybarcodefile.txt ... More automation is possible ... for example using a 
> > db or file that convert every know barcode in a specific decimal number 
> >  (0, 1, 2, 3 ...) your mxxx code in bash can read these number end 
> > convert it in int value of switch case statement . you build a program 
> > that have only switch case statement  every case correspond to 
> > soubroutine call .
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Re: [Emc-users] RFID Tag or Barcode into LinuxCNC

2016-03-24 Thread giorgio foga



> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> From: j...@gnipsel.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:13:58 -0500
> Subject: [Emc-users] RFID Tag or Barcode into LinuxCNC
> 
> Anyone read a RFID tag or barcode and use that to run a subroutine in 
> LinuxCNC?
> 
> JT
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No but is no so difficult. Mxxx code with bash code to read a specific 
mybarcodefile.txt file ... after everery reading cancell all
Read barcode with terminal bash routine and writing the output on 
mybarcodefile.txt ... More automation is possible ... for example using a db or 
file that convert every know barcode in a specific decimal number  (0, 1, 
2, 3 ...) your mxxx code in bash can read these number end convert it in 
int value of switch case statement . you build a program that have only 
switch case statement  every case correspond to soubroutine call .
  
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[Emc-users] @ d garret teleop jog solution work for me.

2015-11-19 Thread giorgio foga

I use the delta robot modifyed kins  no possibility to have external jog 
wheel in world mode .  ok so i think from kinematics to overwrite the value 
of selected world axis + encoder value (on certain condition: is-teleop 
is-manual is-on is-enable no-limits) directly from kinematics to pos.N  the 
best way to do this?
Actually simply in foward kins add the value in this way emecpos = tran.N + 
encoder-value . but when go out to teleop or jog mode the axis jump to 
original tran.N so I would overwrite actual tran.N adding delta.encoder-value 
(encoder-value.time0 - encoder-value.time1).

Is possible to do? Is possible to do in other way? (i'm not an expert around 
list  . ask your suggest)...

in me case the machine (delta robot) have hardware limit directly on servo 
. no possibility of crash!!

regards
giorgio
  
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