RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Gift - Something that is bestowed voluntarily and without compensation Award - To grant as merited or due Compensation - Something, such as money, given or received as payment or reparation, as for a service or loss. I don't see MVP status as being a gift. Seems to me that it would be an award for people that spend their own time (cost of time is greater than hard cash) to help others understand technology. In many cases I have seen most of the MVP's give their time and efforts to helping people understand what they are already running (Exchange) in Exchange related newsgroups and lists. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics How am I changing position? I have always stated that the problem with MVP is that it is a gift. If you paid for it and it were not a gift, then it is something that you PAID for, just like MCSE or any other certification. Explain how this is a change in my point of view? You've never proven that it is a breach of ethics, much less egregious. And your admission of even a slight change of your point of view shows just how fatuous your argument is. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Well, you're missing the big picture and the whole point, but yes, if you paid Microsoft, even one dollar, then it would not be such an egregious breach of ethics. So how fundamentally different is paying Microsoft to be a Partner than being an MVP? It's true that I don't pay actual money to be an MVP, but I do work for it. Don't you have to sign lots of agreement papers to be a Partner? Do you give all your customers copies of those papers so they can assess the level of conflict of interest? So if I send Microsoft a dollar for my MVP status, the conflict of interest ends? You still haven't proven your assertion that my accepting the small gratuity and title associated with MVP constitutes a conflict of interest. Your only proof so far is along the lines of, It's obvious, or It is because I say it is. Perhaps it's because you can't prove it? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase I finish them (fights) offensive but not someone being called a liar, stupid, idiot, wife beater. You simply have zaro credibility. Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to even debating this with you because you are never going to see it because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life. But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the information and get out. Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to be the all ethical sort. And to my knowledge, I have no ethics test that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes your bias. I am not, nor ever will be all ethical and holier than thou. I have *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all. Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft partner. In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight. And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably occurred. And guess what?
RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server
This is also a good site to look at if you need to figure out issues with DNS. http://www.dnsreport.com/ -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Cool site. Thanks for posting, Don. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Looking good from network-tools.com as well... You might want to bookmark that site, it comes in very handy for the likes of these problems... -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server :) ok thanks for the help Our DNS is provided by our ISP, I guess I need to ring them and find out whats going on, we changed about a week ago and instructed they change our MX, I assume it should be fine by now? When I test it from here I get the new IP, so some servers are aware (and this is my home connection, which is on a different ISP to the corporate, so different DNS servers) Thanks again -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: 11 December 2003 21:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Roh roh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server I see 62.49.146.170... www.network-tools.com sees: IP address: 62.49.146.170 Host name: mailgate.partition.co.uk Alias: no-dns-yet.demon.co.uk Your DNS is outta whack -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Hi Don What address do you see as my MX? It should be 80.176.164.194 Thanks a lot for the help -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: 11 December 2003 18:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server It's not your Exchange server if your MX record points to your FW. I telnetted to your MX and the connection failed... -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Hi there Yeah, the public and private IPs/NAT are all setup as is port forwarding, has been working for ages, no idea why its stopped now I think over the weekend I'll move the Exchange Server outside the firewall and see what happens Anything I can check on the Exch server? thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: 11 December 2003 15:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server I'm assuming the external interface on the SW has a public IP and the internal interface has a private IP and you are attempting to NAT you connection. In the Sonicwall, under the advanced setting, you should have it setup under one-to-one NAT the public/private translation for your Exchange server. Then under Access have a rule to allow port 25 to that private address. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niki Blowfield Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Hi, Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4 Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall ProVX firewall Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine for a number of years Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the Exchange Server at all I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our mailserver successfully and send an email from there Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our Sonicwall ProVX Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate the firewall Thanks Nik _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail
How much mail can Exchange process? A lot. If you understand how an e-mail is handled with Exchange SMTP services, you can design the server (include memory, processor and disk layout) you can make it fly. I stress tested the IIS SMTP to see what I could get out of it. I rated the box at over 500k messages an hour before I ran out of equipment to send and receive e-mail. The gateway box wasn't stressed very hard so I don't know what the real upper limit was. I would guess somewhere in the 800k to 1m range. [1] Sendmail is overkill for 99.9% of the systems out there. Not because of speed, but because of it's complexity. With the Sendmail configuration files, I can do just about anything to an e-mail or with an e-mail that you can think of. The issue is the complexity. Most organizations don't need that kind of granularity in their configurations and want a simple potato passer for the gateway. Tell your *nix person to educate himself or have a nice warm cup... [1] I wish that Microsoft would take some of the queue utilities that Exchange gives you and allow me to add them just to IIS SMTP. Then it could be a viable gateway solution. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Tell him Postfix is more secure... :P Personally, I like to put another server at the edge for SMTP that is NOT Exchange when I can... As far as who's faster at processing... Who cares, can Sendmail do calendaring, public folders, etc? -Original Message- From: Sean Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Good Morning All, I have a Unix/Linux admin that is just wearing me out with regards to Exchanging being 3rd rate. Given all of the variables including memory, processors, etc. How much mail traffic can Exchange process in an hour/day and what is the advantage if any of putting SendMail in front of Exchange? His last statement was that SendMail can process more mail in one minute than Exchagne can process in a day. Thanks, Sean _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. googling Dr. receives honorary degree lawyer receives honorary degree Just for reference. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I did not say what you say I said. What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my opinion, check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. Go educate yourself on the subject matter. Now, the other thing that you are incorrect in is that I did not bring this subject up. This subject came up years and years ago back around 1996/1997 during normal list discussions. It is not like I just started blasting people out of the blue. However, it seems that every time I post to this list somebody is still holding a grudge from 1996/1997 and brings this subject up. Once it is brought up, I will state my opinion and defend it. Money is simply the physical manifestation of ego and thus there is no difference between the two. I hold myself to my own professional code of conduct. I have no idea if it is better or different or longer than anyone else's. It is mine and that is all I know. No, You are wrong. Explain to me how you can tell someone that they are unethical AND not expect it to be taken as an insult. You feel justified in your position and that is fine. When you come into a public forum and say that anyone who is an MVP is unethical, you cannot expect MVPs to take it any other way than an insult. By making your opinions as a statement, you have committed catagorical slander on a group of people YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. If you had said that you disagree with vendor recognition, but that MVPs do a lot of good for the Microsoft community (this discussion list being a prime example), then you would be airing your opinion with out discrediting the good work that some MVPs do. Can you really blame anyone for accepting recognition? It is human nature to want and deserve laud and attention. It is obvious that you measure yourself a much longer moral yardstick than the rest of us. Perhaps you should start your own Exchange list for-the-morally-upright to keep these reactions from happening in the future. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Some more information on Professional Ethic http://www.westga.edu/~rlane/professional/lecture_professionsprofessionaliz ation2.html For those with any interest. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I did not say what you say I said. What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my opinion, check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. Go educate yourself on the subject matter. Now, the other thing that you are incorrect in is that I did not bring this subject up. This subject came up years and years ago back around 1996/1997 during normal list discussions. It is not like I just started blasting people out of the blue. However, it seems that every time I post to this list somebody is still holding a grudge from 1996/1997 and brings this subject up. Once it is brought up, I will state my opinion and defend it. Money is simply the physical manifestation of ego and thus there is no difference between the two. I hold myself to my own professional code of conduct. I have no idea if it is better or different or longer than anyone else's. It is mine and that is all I know. No, You are wrong. Explain to me how you can tell someone that they are unethical AND not expect it to be taken as an insult. You feel justified in your position and that is fine. When you come into a public forum and say that anyone who is an MVP is unethical, you cannot expect MVPs to take it any other way than an insult. By making your opinions as a statement, you have committed catagorical slander on a group of people YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. If you had said that you disagree with vendor recognition, but that MVPs do a lot of good for the Microsoft community (this discussion list being a prime example), then you would be airing your opinion with out discrediting the good work that some MVPs do. Can you really blame anyone for accepting recognition? It is human nature to want and deserve laud and attention. It is obvious that you measure yourself a much longer moral yardstick than the rest of us. Perhaps you should start your own Exchange list for-the-morally-upright to keep these reactions from happening in the future. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Interestingly enough you state that you are a professional and yet make a statement like that. I in no way have attacked you and only posted those (and another link) on professionals and ethics. My statement was not an attack, only a point of reference. If you remember, I was also the only person to respond to your list challenge about your book that followed through. You've belittled me without reason or cause. Very professional of you. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, yes, I would expect that to be the extent of your research. degree title check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. googling Dr. receives honorary degree lawyer receives honorary degree Just for reference. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
http://www.doctorupdate.net/du_awards/category.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2093852.stm http://suewidemark.netfirms.com/drugcompaniesprofiles.htm http://www.globalaging.org/health/us/curb2.htm To the AMA's credit they seem to be concerned, but the last article shows that little will be done about it. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sorry, I should have been more clear. I will restate this for seemingly the 11 millionth time. Accepting titles FROM VENDORS is bad and unprofessional. Actually, degree DOES equal title. One day, I am just ordinary old Jim Blunt. The next day Washington State Univ. bestows an honorary doctorate in Computer Engineering, due to some mythical contributions I have made to the industry. My signature would now read: DR. James Blunt, Computer Engineer -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, yes, I would expect that to be the extent of your research. degree title check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. googling Dr. receives honorary degree lawyer receives honorary degree Just for reference. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OWA Design Question
You can use ISA. It's not that hard to set up and works well. Added bonus for those with the need is the ability to add RSA authentication to the ISA server. Users must use a key fob to authenticate before they even get to the OWA boxes. You can also use another type of proxy server (Squid for instance) to proxy the connection from the DMZ. -Original Message- From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OWA Design Question If you publish OWA through ISA, all you need to open outbound to the internet is 80 and/or 443 for OWA to function. If you place a FE server in the DMZ you still have to open 80 and/or 443 outbound to the Internet and open 389, 3268, 88, 53, 135, 1024+ back to your BE Exchange servers. At least that is the way I understand it. - Matt -Original Message- From: Clemens, Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OWA Design Question Exchange 2000 SP3 Windows 2000 SP4 I am sitting here reading the PDF Using Microsoft Exchange 2000 Front-End Servers trying to get a feel for how I should set up OWA access from the internet for my company. Currently we have an Exchange 5.5 OWA server in a DMZ with port 443 open from the internet or external side and on the internal side open to the DC's and Exchange ServersI know, I know not very secure.The document gives me several scenarios but the ones I am interested in are Front-End Server in a Perimeter Network and Advance Firewall in a Perimeter Network. With the Front-End scenario I have to open 389, 3268, 88, 53, 135, 1024+ or statically map the RPC service Port. This seems easy enough to do but it sucks having to swiss cheese the firewall. Of course Microsoft recommends the Advance Firewall Scenario (ISA Server) My question is has anyone setup ISA in a DMZ? Is it better? What are the benefits? I still have to have ports 389, 88, 53, and 443 open for authentication and such so what do I gain except for not having to open up RPC ports? I am looking at this from the perspective of talking management into spending the $3000 on the software.belts are tight so there really has to be a good reason. And we already have a proxy server and management doesn't want to replace it so this would be specific to making OWA access more secure. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rick sends -Original Message- From: Petschow, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation feature Here is a link that will take you to the values for Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange2003/appendixc.asp Jeff -Original Message- From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation feature Hee hee hee I think I have that book somewhere... Actually, the settings have changed between E2K and E2K3. I think there are a few more things you can turn on/off in E2K3. Unfortunately, no one seems to know what the settings are. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 AM Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List Conversation: Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation feature Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation feature Yes it's a registry key that is set. When set affects all users of that domain however you can also set for an individual that will overide the system setting. 1024 is for all folders to show up. I have the settings at work but are also available on MS's site via http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311154 If you need the exact settings they are in the book Exchange 24/7 by Jm McBee From: McBee, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2003 OWA segmentation feature Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:01:25 -1000 Hi everyone: I'm looking for some information on a feature in Exchange 2003 and I have used up all of my ideas on how to find out more info. It was called OWA segmentation in Exchange 2000 and was introduced in Exchange 2000 SP2. It allowed you to turn off public folders, the calendar, contacts, etc.. for certain users. This was either a registry key or an attribute you had to add to the W2K AD. However, it is included in E2K3's schema extensions. However, I cannot find ANY information on the actual values. It is essentially a bit mask, but I can't figure out what the bits mean. Below is the only text I have been able to find on it, and this was in the release notes. The schema attribute name is: msExchMailboxFolderSet I have a customer that is
RE: Tumbleweed
IIRC they've changed their pricing structure from per seat to per proc. Huge difference. Why don't you call them and find out. -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tumbleweed So in todays-money, I can excpect 3 Ferrari's and maybe a Mercedes rag-top or two? I think I have them laying around Physical Plant. Maybe I can keep 1 of the Mercs if I scrub the support... Jeff -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse, Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple of Ferraris (including support) Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for 1500 mailboxes? Jeff Hague Network Manager MCSE Randolph-Macon College Ashland, VA -Original Message- From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Tumbleweed Yes. Exchange 2K FE/BE Topology 900 users - Original Message - From: internet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Tumbleweed Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000? Thanks Richard Tracy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Challenge responded to - Review of Achieving Process Profitabi lity
I received and read this book (closer to a booklet than a book) Friday. The author does a fairly good job of translating some basic TQM principles as they relate to IT. The book is an easy read but could have used more real world scenarios to emphasize certain points. As far as the philosophy of the author goes, I feel that Greg has highlighted some of the failures that many IT people make in their assumptions as to their role in an organization. (I won't get into great detail as I'll leave other people who may be interested in forming their own opinions.) I've called it the Mainframe Mentality in the past. Build it and they will come has no place in IT anymore. His assumptions as to role in IT I've feel he got it partially correct, but missed some things as well. Automation of manual process is important, but the I in IT does stand for something that the author failed to talk about at all. There is another area that I feel that was missed entirely. The importance of have a strong, flexible and reliable infrastructure. Most of the focus at the end of the book was (to me) from the point of view of an application developer and most of the points are valid. However, developers must have an strong infrastructure to develop on. This is one of the most difficult concepts for IT to sell to the money managers. Overall I'd rate the booklet Fair. For those not familiar with TQM or ITIL it is a basic introduction to some of those concepts. For those who what to delve deeper into those concepts, I'd suggest reading The Deming Management Method and The 5 Pillars of TQM. The ITIL website also has information on IT Service Management. http://www.ogc.gov.uk/index.asp?id=2261 http://www.ogc.gov.uk/index.asp?id=2261 This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent BBT in any way. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange and SAN
I'll kindly ask you to get off of my soapbox. My favorite one I've heard lately: Well, it uses fiber to attach to the SAN so it's much faster for Exchange. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange and SAN As long as you don't buy into the great white lie of SAN's, you're golden. That lie is that there's no performance hit created by taking a single large array and carving it into a bunch of LUNs - there's a physics issue there. Other than that, its just a bunch of disks, just like the SCSI attached ones you probably have now. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange and SAN Has anyone ran Exchange in a SAN, and were there any issues with it? I've always had a raid array attached to it which could be the same thing but did not know if there were any major differences? Any help would be appreciate it. Thanks, Mario ** * The contents of this communication are intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication and notify the sender. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this communication that do not relate to the official business of my company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ** * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A CHALLENGE to the List
Deal -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A CHALLENGE to the List Well, it appears that a number of individuals from this list have chosen to engage in childish and cowardly ad hominem attacks on myself and Achieving Process Profitability: Building the IT Profit Center without ever even reading a single page of it. I have been in contact with Amazon.com so these reviews will be removed in the near future. I could take this opportunity to opine about how unprofessional, unfair, childish and cowardly this is, but instead I offer this challenge: I will send you a copy of my Achieving Process Profitability at my own expense for you to review. All that I ask in return is that you actually read Achieving Process Profitability and post an honest, impartial review of it's contents, not your personal prejudices, to Amazon.com and this list. I will only respond to indivuals that publicly accept my challenge on this list, just respond to this message and then privately email me your name and address. I have a limited supply of books so I will accept the first 10-12 responses to this challenge. All fair-minded individuals will accept this challenge and the rest of the pompous bags of gas will be exposed for what they are. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A CHALLENGE to the List
Now THAT is funny. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A CHALLENGE to the List Send it on, I'll return it at my own expense once I am done lest one consider that I took compensation in form of a free book and tainted my review as a result. Chris Scharff 9420 Research Blvd Suite 330 Austin, TX 78759 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:23 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: A CHALLENGE to the List Subject: A CHALLENGE to the List Well, it appears that a number of individuals from this list have chosen to engage in childish and cowardly ad hominem attacks on myself and Achieving Process Profitability: Building the IT Profit Center without ever even reading a single page of it. I have been in contact with Amazon.com so these reviews will be removed in the near future. I could take this opportunity to opine about how unprofessional, unfair, childish and cowardly this is, but instead I offer this challenge: I will send you a copy of my Achieving Process Profitability at my own expense for you to review. All that I ask in return is that you actually read Achieving Process Profitability and post an honest, impartial review of it's contents, not your personal prejudices, to Amazon.com and this list. I will only respond to indivuals that publicly accept my challenge on this list, just respond to this message and then privately email me your name and address. I have a limited supply of books so I will accept the first 10-12 responses to this challenge. All fair-minded individuals will accept this challenge and the rest of the pompous bags of gas will be exposed for what they are. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RPC over HTTP Compatibility
Finally tossed out the pink sundress? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: RPC over HTTP Compatibility That's no rumor, I'm wearing a pair now with my leather shorts. From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 11:02:10 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RPC over HTTP Compatibility I heard a rumor too that knee high white socks with stripes on top are coming back. From: Berry Schreuder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RPC over HTTP Compatibility Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:16:08 -0700 Hello, I have heard that RPC over HTTP can also work in a non Windows 2003 only environment. Microsoft whitepapers state that besides EX2K3 on W2K3 you also need W2K3 on your DC's and GC's. Now i have heard rumours that you only need one server running on W2K3 with RPC Proxy service installed. This way you should for instance be able to run EX2K3 on W2K Can anyone confirm or deny this? Berry Schreuder _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =e nglish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =e nglish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Notes vs. Exchange
Microsoft Exchange engineers are a dime a dozen Good ones are difficult to find and even more difficult to pry away from their current employer. After interviewing Exchange admins over the last few years I've found that most people that put Exchange experience on their resume have added or deleted a mailbox, or maybe built a server or two. Out of five I interviewed one time, only 1 could give me the steps performed by Exchange to route an e-mail message to the internet. I wasn't even asking for real detail and only 1 could answer it. Getting someone that can design a large scale implementation of Exchange is even harder to do. -Original Message- From: norem0rz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Notes vs. Exchange Well, this probably won't be quite as technical as you want... but it is what I have experienced. Lotus notes - No decent support in the channel (premium support) - core product has not been substancially updated in years, but has an update every month... requires a heafty subscrition fee. Microsoft Exchange - Ex engineers are a dime a dozen, MS has Excellent support. Documeantation O' Plenty. Client requires only network logon, not a file to access thier data (ever have a Notes user loose that file and you realize there is no backup - a NIGHTMARE!) Exchange does not have the file management that Notes does, but if that is not being utilized it is definately worth going to Exchange. Especially that Domino server is the most ass backwards program that I have ever run into...but that's just my 2 cents :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Notes vs. Exchange
I could scan the archives for some of the questions asked here and prove you wrong, but I'd rather go drink a beer. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Notes vs. Exchange There is a whole mailing list of these dime-a-dozens :) -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Notes vs. Exchange Microsoft Exchange engineers are a dime a dozen Good ones are difficult to find and even more difficult to pry away from their current employer. After interviewing Exchange admins over the last few years I've found that most people that put Exchange experience on their resume have added or deleted a mailbox, or maybe built a server or two. Out of five I interviewed one time, only 1 could give me the steps performed by Exchange to route an e-mail message to the internet. I wasn't even asking for real detail and only 1 could answer it. Getting someone that can design a large scale implementation of Exchange is even harder to do. -Original Message- From: norem0rz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Notes vs. Exchange Well, this probably won't be quite as technical as you want... but it is what I have experienced. Lotus notes - No decent support in the channel (premium support) - core product has not been substancially updated in years, but has an update every month... requires a heafty subscrition fee. Microsoft Exchange - Ex engineers are a dime a dozen, MS has Excellent support. Documeantation O' Plenty. Client requires only network logon, not a file to access thier data (ever have a Notes user loose that file and you realize there is no backup - a NIGHTMARE!) Exchange does not have the file management that Notes does, but if that is not being utilized it is definately worth going to Exchange. Especially that Domino server is the most ass backwards program that I have ever run into...but that's just my 2 cents :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AD Discussion Forum?
http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: AD Discussion Forum? There is also a AD discussion list over at Sunbelt Software. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Stephen Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:54 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: AD Discussion Forum? Subject: RE: AD Discussion Forum? Caution, link may wrap. http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx?NewsGroup=microsoft .public.win2000.active_directorySLCID=USICP=GSS3sd=GNid=fh;en-us;new sgroups -Steve -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: AD Discussion Forum? Anyone know of a good Active Directory discussion forum? The forum has been so helpful and I need one for Active Directory. Thanks Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routine Maintenance
There was an excellent explanation by Ed Woodrick on the topic of compacting the Exchange store back on March 15, 2002 if you'd like to look in the archives. Unless asked for, I won't repost it. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance Not that I have seen. From what I know MS Exchange just treats this as space to stuff more stuff into. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Fyodorov, Andrey Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance Well we have about 20GB of white space right now. I unfortunately have to waste the time to do one. Alex -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions I have had 2GB+ of whitespace But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance Why should you do offline backups? What's the reasoning besides just you should do them? The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway. Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly. It causes an unnecessary interruption in uptime. As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing one. As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your backup window, it's just not worth it. The only times that offline defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall while you purchase the Enterprise edition. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Routine Maintenance Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them. They take a long time. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions me Im no guru like the other people here... so I let the server do it Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check Backup... my backup goes every night -full Backup...check done (note NO BLB!!) my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check done... My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It run's run's and run's OK once it a great while I reboot it some times I look at my log's..some times I dont If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a while...or so... I try not to fix it if it aint broke... now where is that hammer.. bill -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routine Maintenance Hello All. Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended. Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month? Exchange 5.5 sp4 Windows 2000 Advanced Server Outlook 2000/XP clients Thanks! Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode = lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode = lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode = lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Scan Gateway
Actually it would be. You could turn off AV scanning on your Exchange servers (for a short time) while the issue was corrected with a bad virus definition. You could also allow the mail traffic to pass directly to your Exchange servers if the gateway goes bad. Same process for a path of upgrade issue. You have it even easier as the gateway product and the Exchange AV product are from 2 vendors. One of them is bound to catch the virus even if the other fails. -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway My Environment:- The first stage of external email scan will be on the DMZ (Trend Micro Server Gateway). Email flow from Internet to Firewall and pass to Trend Server in DMZ to do the content scanning and email will be flow back to the Firewall again, and then flow into the Internal Net (Exchange Server) and go through the second AV Scan inside the Exch Server. Exchange Server itself located inside the Internal Net will have AV Exchange(Symantec) installed to be the second scanning stage or to be the internally email scan. So in this scenario, your 2 points cant be justify because I still have one AV in the Exchange that might have your 2 points problem. thanks -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Currently we're the same way. There are two other advantages of having a dedicated gateway scanner. It's typical for the AV vendors to have one or two bad virus definition files a year. I've seen them totally hose up a box when they're real bad. If you have that at the gateway, your internal mail flow will still work while you repair the gateway. People may notice that they are not getting internet mail, but won't be screaming as loud as if you took their mailbox server off line. Second advantage is upgrade path. Since the gateway is a separate box and passes all mail via SMTP, you can upgrade the antivirus or the Exchange system separately from each other without impact. If you needed to install a hotfix for Exchange or the OS, you can do so without having the extra variable of the antivirus product in the mix. Costs are always a concern with the ducks, but the AV gateway doesn't need to be a huge server. We ran a dual 500mhz, 500GB RAM with two disk arrays on our inbound server and were handling around 100k messages a day on it. It rated about 5000 an hour before we upgraded to a larger server. That server may run you about 3-4k depending on your vendor but you probably wouldn't need that something even that large. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway At TechEd, one of the MS dudes told us that MS doesn't use AV on the mail servers at all. All email is scanned by gateway servers. Maybe he will like that. We can be just like MS -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Thanks everyone. But but but.. pardon me that these point is good for IT Engineer but not to management whereby there will ask Q such as, even though in same box, it will still be able to capture and hold the email if BE is down. They never care about the problem of crashes, upgrade etc. :) so I was thinking any reason that's I never thought of and of cox it should be valid to scare management off so that they agree to have it on dedicated box... Thanks ... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Correct. Another nice thing about the gateway on a separate box is that it give you a place to capture and hold email if you need to bring your Exchange boxes down for anything. It sits there nice and pretty and when Exchange comes back up, the mail goes in. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Scan Gateway Simply because its the easiest way to manage it. If it ever crashes or requires maintenance or upgrading, it wont affect other services. - Original Message - From: Fioon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Our Environment only have 275users internally, and another 50users access from overseas using OWA or POP3. Do you have any reason why should the gateway to be run on separate box? Thanks -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway I would advise to put your gateway on a separate box
RE: .Pst on OWA?
A... A financial institution. One of the nice features of KVS is the ability to allow your compliance officers to search only those mailboxes for the areas that they are responsible for. It cuts way down on the false positives that will happen with more common words. It also allows you to push the responsibility of looking at the data to the owners of the data. You only need to provide them with the proper access rights and if you manage it well, that means very little work for you in the long run. One of the largest problems that I encounter during an investigation or discovery is that I have no idea what they are looking for. I'm not a securities specialist. I'm not a investment banker. I'm not even a financial person. I can't decide what is appropriate for the workplace and what isn't. This allows you to let them manage that and you have time to do your job. -Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA? I've actually downloaded their demo but I haven't got around to playing with it on my test lab. It hasn't really been an administrative nightmare ever since we moved the pst files to a central location. Though it does need a lot of cooperation from the user community and intervention from IT. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions That's fine. PST's aren't a good way to comply with those regulations though, because then you still lose both administrative control of that data as well as the ability to back it up. There's this cool product from Kvault that is designed to address those issues though... -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA? Unfortunately for me, we can't force people to delete email messages because of different regulations that we need to comply with. We need to comply with a 3 year regulation and a 7 year regulation. I understand that you loose single instance store on PST files and has a lot of quirks but we have a handful of users that have 3GB mailboxes and are asking us why it's taking so long to open up their mailbox when they are in remote locations. We are currently not using an archiving solution but are looking into it. In our current situation, we've been using pst's in small doses for people that have extremely large mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions By setting limits on them...they tend to motivate people to clean up their mail, especially when you don't allow them to send mail once they are over their limit. - Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 Original Message- From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:34 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: .Pst on OWA? Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA? I'm curious... How do you keep the size of the mailboxes down? -Original Message- From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Anyone knows that can OWA in 2k or 2k3 able to open .pst? Decide to close POP3, it will have problem on limited mailbox space. a newbie, you think? Um PST=BAD!!! -Kevin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email message may contain information that is confidential and proprietary to Babcock Brown or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the original message. Babcock Brown takes measures to protect the content of its communications. However, Babcock Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of errors or viruses. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting
RE: Scan Gateway
Currently we're the same way. There are two other advantages of having a dedicated gateway scanner. It's typical for the AV vendors to have one or two bad virus definition files a year. I've seen them totally hose up a box when they're real bad. If you have that at the gateway, your internal mail flow will still work while you repair the gateway. People may notice that they are not getting internet mail, but won't be screaming as loud as if you took their mailbox server off line. Second advantage is upgrade path. Since the gateway is a separate box and passes all mail via SMTP, you can upgrade the antivirus or the Exchange system separately from each other without impact. If you needed to install a hotfix for Exchange or the OS, you can do so without having the extra variable of the antivirus product in the mix. Costs are always a concern with the ducks, but the AV gateway doesn't need to be a huge server. We ran a dual 500mhz, 500GB RAM with two disk arrays on our inbound server and were handling around 100k messages a day on it. It rated about 5000 an hour before we upgraded to a larger server. That server may run you about 3-4k depending on your vendor but you probably wouldn't need that something even that large. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway At TechEd, one of the MS dudes told us that MS doesn't use AV on the mail servers at all. All email is scanned by gateway servers. Maybe he will like that. We can be just like MS -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Thanks everyone. But but but.. pardon me that these point is good for IT Engineer but not to management whereby there will ask Q such as, even though in same box, it will still be able to capture and hold the email if BE is down. They never care about the problem of crashes, upgrade etc. :) so I was thinking any reason that's I never thought of and of cox it should be valid to scare management off so that they agree to have it on dedicated box... Thanks ... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Correct. Another nice thing about the gateway on a separate box is that it give you a place to capture and hold email if you need to bring your Exchange boxes down for anything. It sits there nice and pretty and when Exchange comes back up, the mail goes in. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Scan Gateway Simply because its the easiest way to manage it. If it ever crashes or requires maintenance or upgrading, it wont affect other services. - Original Message - From: Fioon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: RE: Scan Gateway Our Environment only have 275users internally, and another 50users access from overseas using OWA or POP3. Do you have any reason why should the gateway to be run on separate box? Thanks -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Scan Gateway I would advise to put your gateway on a separate box. I don't know how big your network is, but for 100 users, the gateway could be a simple PC. As for DNS, W2K/AD is all about DNS, DNS, DNS. Plan on having 2 DNS servers. For that matter, plan on having 2 DC/GC's. So make each of those a DNS server as well. -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Scan Gateway We're in the exploring on the infrastructure on our Network to be ready for Win2k. There are some area which is in question marks. Email Scanning Gateway to be places on the DMZ. e.g. TrendMicro/Mailsweeper. Should it be place in different box or should it be place in the same box with the Front End Server? So far, we have been consult by 2 supplier. One said it's better to put different box, because put in one box with FE is useless. Reason is if email came into the FE, and only then the Scan Gateway scan the mail is too late. The virus already came into the FE, scan will not help. And another one supplier said it's ok to put into same box with FE. Another question is for Win2k Environment, is DNS very important? Once DNS down, and no cache available, does it mean clients cannot log on to the network? Thanks Fioon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface:
RE: Changing the Domain on Outbound Messages
Custom recipient. -Original Message- From: Russell Hopkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Changing the Domain on Outbound Messages Sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear as I'd thought: We need to change the destination e-mail address for one external domain. For example, if our domain is xyz.com and one of our users ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) sends an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], we want the message to actually go out to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this clears up our issue. Thanks. Sure. Add the email addy to each Exchange mailbox and then set it as the default reply-to. -Original Message- From: Russell Hopkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Changing the Domain on Outbound Messages We have a need to change the domain name on certain outbound messages (e.g., mail going out to [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be readdressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I know this can be done for inbound messages, but is there any way of accomplishing this for outbound messages on 5.5? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode =lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What does it mean?
Host not found. No such domain. -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: What does it mean? - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: haifauvm.ac.il: host not found) What can I read in this? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bulk Public Folder Replication?
You can use the propagate these properties to all subfolders to do bulk moves to another server. -Original Message- From: Uso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Bulk Public Folder Replication? Hi, is there an easy way to replicate a large number of public folders to another server or do I have to click each single one and configure a replica? appreciate your help. regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange server level encryption
They are not the only company that does this, but I am most familiar with their product. -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption Sounds like Tumbleweed is going to get a lot more customers now. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption It would depend on who you are e-mailing to. If you have a limited amount of customers or clients PGP or S/MIME is not a bad implementation. If you have many customers that would not be able to set up PGP for whatever reason you should look at something that will take the message and send it to a web site. The customer would get a message that there is an e-mail waiting for them on your web site and they would go get it. The data would then be transmitted over SSL which a standard web browser can handle. Tumbleweed has a secure redirect product that would handle this for you. It also has the added benefit of being able to handle other forms of encryption and message retention. -Original Message- From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption Tumbleweed product does this...it is something that our headquarters wants us to look into...I haven't personally evaluated yet. dave Dave Stevens -IT Network Support- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange server level encryption Ok, my eyes are going crossed. I have been trying to figure out a decent way to encrypt all outbound email from our company. This is for compliance with HIPAA. Does anyone happen to have any ideas? I have googled and haven't found a product that looks right. I have searched for exchange 2000 encryption, email encryption, etc. Help? TIA Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange server level encryption
It would depend on who you are e-mailing to. If you have a limited amount of customers or clients PGP or S/MIME is not a bad implementation. If you have many customers that would not be able to set up PGP for whatever reason you should look at something that will take the message and send it to a web site. The customer would get a message that there is an e-mail waiting for them on your web site and they would go get it. The data would then be transmitted over SSL which a standard web browser can handle. Tumbleweed has a secure redirect product that would handle this for you. It also has the added benefit of being able to handle other forms of encryption and message retention. -Original Message- From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption Tumbleweed product does this...it is something that our headquarters wants us to look into...I haven't personally evaluated yet. dave Dave Stevens -IT Network Support- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange server level encryption Ok, my eyes are going crossed. I have been trying to figure out a decent way to encrypt all outbound email from our company. This is for compliance with HIPAA. Does anyone happen to have any ideas? I have googled and haven't found a product that looks right. I have searched for exchange 2000 encryption, email encryption, etc. Help? TIA Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: E2K OWA timeouts
We've front ended ours with an ISA server with RSA authentication. Timeouts can be set to either x minutes of non-usage (or will be once they fix a little bug) or x minutes of usage. Once it's timed out, you're done. There is also a piece of sample code that they give you that can wipe the session cookie out of memory so once the user hits the logoff page, they're done. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2K OWA timeouts This has always been an issue with OWA and why some companies flat out refuse to use it. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2K OWA timeouts Thanks for trying but at the end of that Q article: NOTE: The above setting has to do with the connection between the client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any way. When you set the user context time-out to a number, even if this time-out passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials cached and the user will not be prompted for credentials.. -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2K OWA timeouts You might give Q294752 a try. I have to say though, it didn't work for me. I personally like Ed's solution the best. Aaron -Original Message- From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2K OWA timeouts Ken: Are you looking at MessageWare (http://www.messageware.com)? I have not worked with them personally, but I know a couple of folks that have had good things to say about them. Of course, you could always wait for Exchange 2003. :-) Jim -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:36 AM Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List Conversation: E2K OWA timeouts Subject: E2K OWA timeouts We are looking for a solution to E2K OWA's lack of a timeout feature. We are currently looking at several options, but I thought I'd ask the list what they are doing? Suggestions? Experiences (good or bad)? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
Yeah. You should see the developers run whenever Chris starts walking towards them. Andy, you forgot to tell me about that direct compensation you get for being an MVP. Unless he's talking about that t-shirt? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Shortcuts to Outlook objects lol Thanks for the good laugh. I have found that the harshest critics of Microsoft products are the MVPS themselves. Andy David Microsoft MVP. There, is that better? - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects My point is that it serves no useful purpose to cast aspersions as to people's attitudes and motivations because everyone is biased in one way or another. I believe that this is really systemic with regards to the problems of the IT industry as a whole. The entire industry is vendor and tool focused and that is a huge problem in IT. It tends to polarize people such that everyone is grouped into two categories, people that hate a particular vendor or tool and people that love a particular vendor or tool. This is just plain stupid. The IT industry has some fundamental problems. Microsoft, as part of that industry suffers from some of the same problems as well as some of their own unique deficiencies. Novell has their own unique issues, so does IBM and so does every other vendor in this space. But it seems that you cannot point out these deficiencies without people categorizing and stereotyping you in one way or another. I reject that. I hate all vendors of software tools equally. I find this an absolute requirement to provide true, unbiased consulting services. If you were to follow my posts on a GroupWise board or a Notes board, you would see me make similar arguments regarding the deficiencies of their products and company. However, since I make most of my revenue from Microsoft products and Exchange, I tend to be more active in that area. And the other thing that REALLY chaps me is people that cast aspersions on others without fessing up to their own biases. MVP's are the worst of this lot. They secretly get direct compensation from Microsoft and then try to pass themselves off as unbiased. But you look at their posts and it is obvious that they are simply paid advocates for Microsoft and part of their responsibility is to vilify anyone that says anything negative with regards to Microsoft. And these are the same people that list every last certification and other acronym that they can paste onto the end of their sig, but you never see Microsoft MVP. I wonder why? Microsoft asked me to become an MVP and I told them to go jump in a lake. More people need to take this approach and be true consultants, not advocates. Are you saying that your own interpretation of your own attitude is unbiased? Or that your own evaluation of whether or not your paranioa about how Microsoft are out to get you is unbiased? Rob Also an MVP by the way. Want to throw some mud at me too? -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20 Sent: 07 February 2003 11:43 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects =20 =20 And Ed, if I am not mistaken, you are also a Microsoft MVP,=20 so whose interpretation is unbiased, mine or yours? =20 I continue to believe my interpretation of your attitude is more=20 accurate than your defense thereof. =20 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! =20 =20 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
You are so wrong that it pains me to even read your e-mail. I've gotten more critical feedback from those folks that are MVP's than most others. Not just generalities that Outlook doesn't have very good backwards compatibility, but why the development team did that and why they think they were wrong. They've said it in public forums as well. Ask a lawyer if they've received anything for free and they'll answer, damn right they have. I'm stunned that you would say that I have no ethics or are you just throwing around generalities in a trollish way? A vendor can give me a shirt, or a coffee mug doesn't mean that I won't call them to the carpet on their product. Just ask ANY of my vendors. If there is something wrong with their product or it doesn't do something I want it to do, then I let them know to fix their BAS. The title of MVP doesn't mean Microsoft pet. It's given to those people that have demonstrated knowledge in the field and a willingness to help others get the most from the product. If Chris or Ed or Missy or the Andy's or Martin or Robert or Tom tells me that something works or doesn't work, I know it's from their belief in what they've seen in the product. Not from something that the vendor told them to say. I've never seen one of them not tell it like it is. I've seen them be more critical of Microsoft than most anyone else. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects So, you are going to tell me that you have never received any sort of compensation at all for being an MVP. I am talking T-Shirts, plastic toys, anything and even the TITLE of MVP. If you receive ANY FORM OF COMPENSATION, it is a conflict of interest. Plain and simple. Ask any lawyer if they are allowed to accept ANYTHING for free. The answer is absolutely not. In IT, it is a different story and the difference is because IT is a trade and lawyers are professionals. As long as we in IT continue to operate in this mode, we will be seen as trades-people, the air-conditioning repair guy or plumber, not professionals. The MVP program is a horrible, horrible insidious device that will help keep IT at the trade level. Plus, once you accept the title, you are now the property of the vendor. You will consciously or unconsciously have a bias toward that vendor and keeping that title. This means that you will not tell it like it is in public and instead voice concerns in private to your vendor. If you all want to be trades-people instead of professionals, then keep on with your MVP program. I tend to believe that the entire IT industry is irrevocably broken. Compare it to engineers, lawyers and other professionals and it does not stack up well. And that is sad, because we could be professional, but we have no ethics. I'm very interested to know what secret compensation he is speaking of. Deckler, care to elaborate? -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects Yeah. You should see the developers run whenever Chris starts walking towards them. Andy, you forgot to tell me about that direct compensation you get for being an MVP. Unless he's talking about that t-shirt? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Shortcuts to Outlook objects lol Thanks for the good laugh. I have found that the harshest critics of Microsoft products are the MVPS themselves. Andy David Microsoft MVP. There, is that better? - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects My point is that it serves no useful purpose to cast aspersions as to people's attitudes and motivations because everyone is biased in one way or another. I believe that this is really systemic with regards to the problems of the IT industry as a whole. The entire industry is vendor and tool focused and that is a huge problem in IT. It tends to polarize people such that everyone is grouped into two categories, people that hate a particular vendor or tool and people that love a particular vendor or tool. This is just plain stupid. The IT industry has some fundamental problems. Microsoft, as part of that industry suffers from some of the same problems as well as some of their own unique deficiencies. Novell has their own unique issues, so does IBM and so does every other vendor in this space. But it seems that you cannot point out these deficiencies without people categorizing and stereotyping you in one way or another. I reject that. I hate all vendors of software tools
RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
plonk -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects And everyone could do everything that they do now in terms of helping people WITHOUT the MVP status. So what is the fascination with it? It is ego or something, it mystifies me. I keep hearing MVP's are so helpful, yadda yadda. But there is nothing stopping you from doing exactly the same things that you are doing WITHOUT being an MVP. Lawyers have actual ethics, written down and agreed to by everyone in the profession and if you violate those ethics, there are consequences, just ask Bill Clinton. There is nothing even close in IT. People may have personal their own personal ethics, but who cares? As long as the IT industry is tied to vendors and tools, it will continue to be polarized and it will continue to be a trade. The MVP program is part of this problem. It is not the entire part, but I think that it is much more insidious than going to a trade show and picking up free stuff, because it is the granting of a title. That, in and of itself is a big problem. You are so wrong that it pains me to even read your e-mail. I've gotten more critical feedback from those folks that are MVP's than most others. Not just generalities that Outlook doesn't have very good backwards compatibility, but why the development team did that and why they think they were wrong. They've said it in public forums as well. Ask a lawyer if they've received anything for free and they'll answer, damn right they have. I'm stunned that you would say that I have no ethics or are you just throwing around generalities in a trollish way? A vendor can give me a shirt, or a coffee mug doesn't mean that I won't call them to the carpet on their product. Just ask ANY of my vendors. If there is something wrong with their product or it doesn't do something I want it to do, then I let them know to fix their BAS. The title of MVP doesn't mean Microsoft pet. It's given to those people that have demonstrated knowledge in the field and a willingness to help others get the most from the product. If Chris or Ed or Missy or the Andy's or Martin or Robert or Tom tells me that something works or doesn't work, I know it's from their belief in what they've seen in the product. Not from something that the vendor told them to say. I've never seen one of them not tell it like it is. I've seen them be more critical of Microsoft than most anyone else. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects So, you are going to tell me that you have never received any sort of compensation at all for being an MVP. I am talking T-Shirts, plastic toys, anything and even the TITLE of MVP. If you receive ANY FORM OF COMPENSATION, it is a conflict of interest. Plain and simple. Ask any lawyer if they are allowed to accept ANYTHING for free. The answer is absolutely not. In IT, it is a different story and the difference is because IT is a trade and lawyers are professionals. As long as we in IT continue to operate in this mode, we will be seen as trades-people, the air-conditioning repair guy or plumber, not professionals. The MVP program is a horrible, horrible insidious device that will help keep IT at the trade level. Plus, once you accept the title, you are now the property of the vendor. You will consciously or unconsciously have a bias toward that vendor and keeping that title. This means that you will not tell it like it is in public and instead voice concerns in private to your vendor. If you all want to be trades-people instead of professionals, then keep on with your MVP program. I tend to believe that the entire IT industry is irrevocably broken. Compare it to engineers, lawyers and other professionals and it does not stack up well. And that is sad, because we could be professional, but we have no ethics. I'm very interested to know what secret compensation he is speaking of. Deckler, care to elaborate? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The SEC is killing me.
So am I. Doesn't mean he's not wrong, just that he's got a title. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. EXACTLY! Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. Our security guy does. He wants to put linux on every desktop. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. Everyone? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Did it have any security? And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. Me too. It was an amazing tool. I did a lot of programming in both Smartware and Smartware II as well. I remember one time I had a requirement to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality. It was really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It was an amazingly powerful environment. Office didn't really begin to come close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing. A Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC and so on. In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked macros. You could write a help center program, complete with take over or merely screen replication tools. It was bad. -Original Message- From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. Craig, You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing macros work. Loved it for that. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The SEC is killing me.
That would depend on who the contact is with. If you are talking about SEC Rule 240.17a-4 then you may need to retain conversations. The real difference to me is that e-mail is legally considered a document and that IM is no different from a telephone conversation. Should we wire tap all the phones and record them for violations? Doing a google search under SEC Rule 240.17a-4 will pop up a lot of information on the subject. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: The SEC is killing me. I asked the lawyers here that same question and havent gotten a response yet if it is required. If it isnt now, I imagine it will be very soon. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. What are you doing about instant messaging? Don't you have to keep all IM transactions as well? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me. This will not help you with your SEC problem. It's just a musing and is merely to suggest that no audit technique is fool proof. I think that any system that you can design, a clever person can get around. Let me suggest a scenario from back in the days when I was working on virus delivery techniques and counter measures. The key to this particular almost impossible to detect nefarious message delivery technique would be to send a message to an external mailbox that had a client running against it with in-box rules enabled. The client could parse the message and execute a script or even an external program that would generate another message, which could be sent to any smtp address (or in the case of a virus, do nefarious things on its own local network). So let's say I send a one word message to my home mailbox that says hi. That could trigger a script that sends a message to tell someone to sell. Another script triggered by dinner tonight could trigger a script that generates the buy message. You get the idea. The offending message itself can be as simple or complex but apparently harmless cipher that you could imagine. It could even be embedded in a pattern that looks like I'm sending a daily (or better yet, apparently random and occasional) note commenting on tonight's menu, with an if message text contains filter at the other end. A hindered word note that contained the phrase rare steak could be the trigger. The to address is not that of the ultimate recipient, and the instruction in a form that you could detect is beyond the reach of your archives and searches. There reality is, that you simply cannot filter for this sort of thing in your archives. You can find someone that is being stupid or careless, but not someone that is cunning and deliberate. The extent to which variations on this technique can be used is frightening. Consider what a batch file on a DOS machine could do, in terms of generating an Assembly language program by having VB Script simply write stings from an Excel or Word document to a text file. The VB Script does not even have to travel with the Office document, but can simply be running on the machine on the receiving end. Such a trigger can be hidden behind layer upon layer of isolating techniques. The initial trigger instruction does not have to be sent via SMTP. A FAX to something like a SatisFAXtion modem or a call to an IVR system listening for a specific DMTF sequence that would not be recorded by your phone system can do it. A web site can do it. Web mail to your home smtp address can do it. A cellular call . . . You get the idea. Every link will leave some tracks, but those tracks can be incomplete and look very harmless. Back in the 80's before Microsoft Office became the dominant office suite, there was a product called Smartware by a small company in Lenexa, Kansas that was later purchased by Informix and destroyed. Smartware had the equivalent of VBA in all of its modules, and it had a communications module. The second version of the package even had PEEK and POKE instructions. Imagine what you could do with that today in and administrative security context on a Win2K machine in an Internet world. Nedry (a transposition of nerdy) is still out there. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: The SEC is killing me. There are a number of archival solutions out there.
RE: RBL Article
I want a syrup warmer. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL Article Next you'll want built-in antivirus and firewall and content filter and catch-all mailbox and refridgerator inventory connector. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, at 1:47pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read that Titanium will have some sort of RBL feature. But will it have customizable NDRs and Storage Limit Warnings? lol How about a feature to automatically append text to every message? -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN
Thirded. The other benefit is the lower costs. A BCV volume for EMC is essentially a mirror of your existing set of spindles (which are probably mirrored). The DB is shut down and the mirror is broken and mounted elsewhere for backup to tape. In order to remount that mirror for the next day, you'll need to shut down the DB again. You can create a fourth mirror to mount as you are breaking the first one. That's 4 sets of spindles to handle the disk needs. That can get really expensive and you'll still need to verify the integrity of the DB before you back it up to tape. Backing it up to disk can take fewer disks as you are generally more concerned with volume size rather than spindle I/O's. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN Doing that also interrupts any users who are logged on. I agree about backing up to disk and snapping the backup file. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN script that shuts down the db does the snapshot and then restarts the db all done in less than a minute. Yo I don't know about you, but shutting down my Exchange databases takes significantly longer than a minute. Granted, they're still predominantly Ex5.5, but its not a one minute process. Might be if I did it daily, but I can't, since we run 24x7. Personally, I still think the best way to do it is to use a backup to disk option and rip that to tape, or use an agent based backup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Andy Haigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN It's only if you are taking snapshots of running db's that you have the problems. OK I know there are a number of sites out there who will not allow even a minute of the air but the majority of us can live with a script that shuts down the db does the snapshot and then restarts the db all done in less than a minute. You can then kick off your backup which backs the snapshot up to tape. I have seen this form of snapshotting on EMC and NetApps and it works very well. I have also seen Oracle databases recovered from snapshots successfully. Listening to MS they have added support for snapshots in Windows.NET and they are also saying that there will be snapshotting available on the next version of Exchange, but lets wait and see. The snapshots in .NET is more of a complete copy followed by delta's for each subsequent snapshot. EMC and NetApps use technology that provides instant snapshots as all it does it take a snapshot of the block allocation table and only if a block is about to change does it create a second block to keep a copy of the block as at the time of the snapshot. This obviously saves on space but if you have a mutliple disk failure does mean you could lose all of the data for that snapshot, though in one of these modern SAN's with multiple spare drives is very unlikely. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 1:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN If you cant restore it, whats the point? Is it safe to assume the same with a SQL or Oracle db as well? What about a AD global directory? I'm getting the impression that its good for file systems and file servers and not much more. e- -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN You might be able to restore one if you're lucky. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN You can take snapshot backups of the database. You can't restore them, but you can take them. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN
RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN
But they are so shiny... Quack. EMC has been working with Oracle closely to do instant backups. I haven't looked too much at the Hitachi SANs and don't know what they are capable of. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN That's the impression I got 18 to 24 months ago. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN If you cant restore it, whats the point? Is it safe to assume the same with a SQL or Oracle db as well? What about a AD global directory? I'm getting the impression that its good for file systems and file servers and not much more. e- -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN You might be able to restore one if you're lucky. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN You can take snapshot backups of the database. You can't restore them, but you can take them. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More OT: Hitachi SAN I've seen Exchange 2000 run on servers that use a Hitachi SAN. There really shouldn't be any problem running Exchange on any high-quality SAN system. Don't believe the hyperbole, however, that you can take snapshot backups of the Exchange databases. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: More OT: Hitachi SAN 2nd verse, same as the first... :p Anyone running a Hitachi 9900 V Series SAN? Or maybe just the 9900 series? Normally I wouldn't ask such things of an exchange group, but the diversity and technical expertise here is very good. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: the IBM Shark
You're going to carve up the disks and share spindles with critcal servers running high intensive databases? snicker Good luck. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark We plan on using it for our 17 critical servers and to cut the prices of all the disk we have. Mostly Windows/SQL, and some AIX and linux. Out the door we were going to start with 3tb so the rumor of a 3.36tb performance boundary made me a little wary, but I'm not sure if there is any truth to it. e- -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark As DASDI for os390/Zos mainframes they're great. Not aware of the exact performance boundary. What do you plan to use them for. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: the IBM Shark Is anyone here happen to be running a IBM shark or possibly a Hitachi 9900 series SAN? We are looking at both of these and I have heard rumors that the shark has a performance boundary of 3.36 TB. Just curious. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: the IBM Shark
You keep thinking your happy thoughts. g Who is going to be running your SAN? If you find yourself arguing the difference between spindles and storage space, you're going to have a grand old time. The architecture for the large SAN vendors was based on the limitations in the IBM 3xxx mainframe systems. It was more cost effective to place large amounts of cache in the storage system to accommodate its predictable, read IO operations. You'll find that the typical answer to any issue you have with a large SAN is to throw more hardware at it. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark :p that could be solved with proper planning and good lun management. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark You're going to carve up the disks and share spindles with critcal servers running high intensive databases? snicker Good luck. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark We plan on using it for our 17 critical servers and to cut the prices of all the disk we have. Mostly Windows/SQL, and some AIX and linux. Out the door we were going to start with 3tb so the rumor of a 3.36tb performance boundary made me a little wary, but I'm not sure if there is any truth to it. e- -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: the IBM Shark As DASDI for os390/Zos mainframes they're great. Not aware of the exact performance boundary. What do you plan to use them for. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: the IBM Shark Is anyone here happen to be running a IBM shark or possibly a Hitachi 9900 series SAN? We are looking at both of these and I have heard rumors that the shark has a performance boundary of 3.36 TB. Just curious. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: STORE.EXE loves memory
And you forget to bring beer. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory Seems like I'm always late to the party. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory FWIW, I answered it within an hour if it being asked. The following morning, Roger restated the same answer. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrea Coppini Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Since no one bothered to actually answer the question, I'll give it a try. Andrey, if you're using Exchange 2000, the memory munching is by design. STORE.EXE takes up as much available physical RAM as possible to cache mailboxes and speed up access. We have 1.2Gb in our Exch, and Store.exe's usage hovers around 800mb. This is completely normal. Also, it will (should) automatically reduce its memory utilization when other applications start needing it (eg. Backup jobs, opening of software or large admin tools on the exchange server), so it won't force the system to use virtual memory. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2002 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory It does matter in that he was responding to the level of service pack Martin suggested. If you must, at least jump all over him when he's actually wrong. Not really addressed to you, Roger. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions And the simple fact, Precht, is that it doesn't matter. It's a client side, not a server side, fix. And the functionality has existed at least since Outlook 2000 SR1. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 7:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory Did he mention 5.5 in there? I don't think he did. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 17:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory Why SP3 anyhow? SP4 is where you need to be. -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: STORE.EXE loves memory I think it will stop after 3GB. -Original Message- From: Johnny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: STORE.EXE loves memory Hi everyone. I have just rolled out exchange and I'm finding the store.exe process is slowly eating all memory. I have exchange SP3 on this machine and I tried the registry fix Microsoft suggests that deals with an excessive amount of threads and its still not under control. Is there anything else I can do. I'm putting in more memory into the server but I assume it will only eat that too! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Disable external email privileges
The students are employed by the school so it's a business e-mail address not the student one. They have every right to do what they want. Yes, you can use the encapsulated x.400 address but in this case I don't think anyone would make the effort to do that. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc;noghri.net] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disable external email privileges Yea but the question is would they? If their students then it's safe to assume (well in the US anyways) that their university provides them with e-mail addresses. Now I'm also assuming that he's disabling their external e-mail address cause he doesn't want them mailing their friends ect ect. But wouldn't they be using their universities e-mail system to do this anyways? With webmail systems and all isn't what he's doing more trouble then it's worth? Unless of course he's doing it so the students can't contact clients. But if that was the case is he going to take away their phone privileges too? What type of employee relationship is this going to produce? Is it more harmful to the company to do this and give the students a bad impression of the place then it is to allow access? -Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disable external email privileges By emailing their encapsulated x.400 address which, if one is looking for a way to circumvent the system, is obtainable. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:mhutchins;amr-corp.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes, but if they cant send and don't have an SMTP addy, then how is anyone going to address them from the outside? =:^] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disable external email privileges That covers preventing them from sending. ;) -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:mhutchins;amr-corp.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ok, ok, ok Details, details.. Put a restriction on the IMC that only a dist list can use it and add all the people you want to be able to send to the internet to it.. Better, Chris? :-) -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Disable external email privileges That doesn't exactly work. Exchange will create an SMTP address (encapsulated x.400) for them on the fly for outbound messages and that can be used to reply. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:mhutchins;amr-corp.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Don't give them an smtp address.. -Original Message- From: Raji Arulambalam [mailto:rajia;envbop.govt.nz] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disable external email privileges Hi Using Exchange 5.5 how can I disable a user from receiving and sending external email, but still able to send withing the Exchange Organisation.? We have students being employed, and we want to restrict their email. Any help would be appreciated. -- Raji Arulambalam Systems Administrator Bay of Plenty REGIONAL Council P O Box 364 Whakatane, Whakatane NEW ZEALAND http://envbop.govt.nz/ ** This e-mail has been checked for viruses and no viruses were detected. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: How did I receive this?
Blind Carbon Copy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:rrivera;elnuevodia.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How did I receive this? I just received an email (and possibly others in my company) but it did not have a 'To:' (receipient). I am attaching all of the information I could gather from the email. How is it possible for an email without a destination recipient to be delivered? Thanks! Raul -- Received: from Webshield (10.1.9.90 [10.1.9.90]) by end_mail.elnuevodia.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WM4JL53Q; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:40:17 -0400 Received: from unknown(10.1.9.10) by Webshield via csmap id 18092; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:36:09 -0400 (AST) Received: from node-c-3eb5.a2000.nl ([62.194.62.181]) by endfirewall.elnuevodia.com via smtpd (for [10.1.9.90]) with SMTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:49:30 -0400 From: MRS M. SESE SEKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:38:28 -0800 Subject: BUSINESS ASSISTANCE X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6900 DM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Performance Monitoring Question
There used to be a good white paper written by Compaq and Microsoft called Managing and Monitoring Microsoft(r) Exchange Server. I can't find it on either site anymore. I'll send it to you offline if you would like. -Original Message- From: Marshall, Ben F. [mailto:ben.marshall;usaa.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Performance Monitoring Question Can someone tell me what the best counters are to determine how a server is performing. I know tat the ultimate test is the performance time the users are seeing (ie.. Open messages and attachments, send messages) But what counters will give me an accruate picture of what the users are seeing? Also I realize that there is not one or 2 counters that will do this. But there must be a group... Thanks, Ben _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Performance Monitoring Question
Found it on Active Answers finally. You'll need to register on their site to get it. http://tinyurl.com/2p7g -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Performance Monitoring Question There used to be a good white paper written by Compaq and Microsoft called Managing and Monitoring Microsoft(r) Exchange Server. I can't find it on either site anymore. I'll send it to you offline if you would like. -Original Message- From: Marshall, Ben F. [mailto:ben.marshall;usaa.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Performance Monitoring Question Can someone tell me what the best counters are to determine how a server is performing. I know tat the ultimate test is the performance time the users are seeing (ie.. Open messages and attachments, send messages) But what counters will give me an accruate picture of what the users are seeing? Also I realize that there is not one or 2 counters that will do this. But there must be a group... Thanks, Ben _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
I don't do much admin work any more. (quack) Deleted Items Retention solves 99.9% of the issues with someone deleting something unintentionally. Most of the time the user hits delete and immediately has knows that they needed that message. Our helpdesk (least cost) can walk them through how to restore the item themselves. A simple published document stating that mail is restorable for free up to x (whatever DIR is set to) and will cost x after that. Any item older than whatever your tape rotation is set to is not available for restore. The chargeback to the users is to cover the costs of the administrators time. Nobody really seems to mind this, as long as it spelled out in advance. -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com
RE: somewhat OT
To be kept in the life style that you wish to become accustomed to. g -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: somewhat OT Who knows? I'd love to retire today. If I can only convince my wife to work full-time! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H (Jim) Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: somewhat OT You're gonna be around that long Ed? I figured you'd be retiring in about 5 years! ;0) (g, dr) Jim Blunt E-mail Admin Network Infrastructure Group Bechtel Hanford, Inc. Office: 372-9188 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: somewhat OT This presumes that the function of e-mail remains stagnant. If it doesn't, the pure hardware box has to chase a moving target, which is not an easy thing to do. Doesn't just about every company that has a hardware firewall also have a firewall administrator? Not that any of your forecasts scare me. I'm retiring within 20 years. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: somewhat OT So Roger, does this mean that you are getting ready for the sobering messages? First, let me say that I am not privy to any advanced product planning in what I am about to say, and am only speculating. I fully expect to see a pure hardware version of an entry level Exchange Server within ten years. The design goal would have to be such that a professional sys admin is not required. My guess is that initially it would be targeted at that same mid-tier that you identify, but perhaps a bit lower (25-100 seats) at first. It has to go that way. If you look at what is happening in networking as a whole, you have companies like LinkSys and D-Link that are almost totally focused on idiot proof boxes for basic functionality. Intel, Nortel and more recently Microsoft have all gone chasing after this space as well. It only makes sense that this space will grow up to include a line of mini-blade or little box headless servers that do all of the basics (mail, telephony, web hosting, etc.). General purpose storage and print servicing is already happening. As we all know, little machines grow up to become big machines. 20 years from now, it is not unreasonable to project that even quite large systems will be simple hardware modules that you add to your pile of network pieces. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: somewhat OT Simple. Its not cost effective to outsourse at the levels they target. They missed the boat from day one. There is a relative break even point for having your own IT staff, generally in the 25-75 user range, depending on what your company actually does. More than 100 or so, and you really need someone. Once you've got someone inhouse, they tend to have to be a jack-of-all-trades type, and do a lot of fumbling through. But the job gets done. Traditionally, an NT box with Exchange 5.5 Standard wasn't really that expensive - you could probably do that for $10k. Win2k with E2k has raised the prices a bit, but not exhorbinantly such. With leasing options, that server could be a few hundred a month. Like any service provider, the good fruit is in the middle of the tree, not the low hanging stuff. SO they tended to target 500 person plus orgs. This 600-ish person company has 8 sysadmins - we have enough time to manage Exchange. Without it, maybe we'd have one less headcount, but I'd bet that the headcount loss isn't drastically different than the cost of 600 users' outsourced mail needs. Now, the other side of this equation is that email is a core business need for most companies, and isn't that hard to at least get running[1]. More specialized things, like e-commerce and line of business apps make more sense in a managed environment. Email never did. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA [1] Running well is a different question, but running and running well aren't the issue here. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:greg;infonition.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: somewhat OT You've hit the major
RE: Using a PST for 'overflow'
Many organizations see messaging as a transport system or a communication system and fail to see the significant body of knowledge that is captured in the e-mails. The problem arises with this data not being organized into easily searchable information. Archival solutions are really a patch on top of this, allowing the organization to index and search for the information that they need. I think you're correct in thinking that most companies don't see the cost of implementing an archival solution being lower than the benefit of being able to mine the information out of the messages. Where you will see some movement is the in the regulatory and other legal compliance issues. Being able to discover all messages relating to an incident, a business decision, customer trades, etc. etc. and getting this information to lawyers or regulators is fast becoming an important piece of business. Companies that must implement these types of solutions would be smart to leverage their investment in archival solutions to also provide knowledge management. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:greg;infonition.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Using a PST for 'overflow' I have ony found one solution to this type of problem and it is called an Email Archival system. I have no idea why this type of a solution is not more popular. It gets the information out of the Exchange stores and off user's hard drives and onto permanent storage on CD's or DVD's. The systems they have now integrate quite well with Exchange, provide advanced security capabilities and include full-text searching capabilities. And users can access the systems via a web browser. Why more people do not use these systems is anyone's guess. Apparently most email admins out there are content with draconian storage policies or catering to users like poor Russell who is personally buring CD's. It can all be automated and you can have the best of all worlds. Email Archival systems folks, they have been around for a long time and work quite well. I recommend them to nearly every client that I work for because there is so much business knowledge in email that it is almost criminal the way some companies blast it from their systems after only a week or two. If they actually understood and appreciated the amount of knowledge and business process information that they were losing, they would never do such an incredibly stupid thing. And Craig, I have to disagree with you about user provided storage. Individuals have consistently proven that they simply cannot store, organize and process large amounts of data. If I received as much snail mail as email, my entire house would be full of unorganized stacks of crap. Proper storage of business information should reside on business systems, not on personally provided storage. Centralization and automation of storage is incredibly more efficient and productive than individual users storing their own information. Tongue out of cheek - this is a product design problem of course. Give me one good reason for Exchange being in the storage or data management business. How it ought to work in a world with Active Directories and Distributed File System overlays to NTFS is that a mailbox should be a pointer to user provided storage. Who provides your snail mail box? It's not the post office, unless you are renting a PO Box. Normal delivery is to storage that you provide, structure and manage. Why does Exchange deliver primarily to message stores? Because of a lack of sufficient protocols and customer demand to do it right. If your customer thinks your service is inadequate, your customer is not wrong. As someone earlier in this thread said so eloquently (if misguidedly) duh! -Original Message- From: Etts, Russell [mailto:retts;harman.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Using a PST for 'overflow' Hi there I have the same issue here. People have PST files that are well over a gig, and we had one person go over the 2 gig limit. No matter what we tell them, they insist that they need a mailbox over a gig. I limit them to a max of 300 megs, no matter how much crying they do. I just don't know what to do. I have told people once their PSTs hit 600 megs, then I'll transfer it to my machine and burn them a CD rom. Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions;entrysecurity.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Using a PST for 'overflow' No, just inform them of the 'No PST Backup' policy. I don't back up PSTs. Period. Either its in their mailbox or it is not that important. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-224131;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Sander Van Butzelaar Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002
RE: RBL's
Hello! [1] Frankly. I run the mail system for a business. Decisions about who and what arrives into my mail systems is BUSINESS decision. The folks who run the RBL systems are technologists. They make TECHNOLOGY decisions. They have no idea about my business needs so I would never allow them to make technological decisions regarding who can send me mail. I've found that the administrators that like the RBL's tend to be very technical without a lick of business sense. Their theory is that it is better to reject a few good mail messages than to receive any spam. This is in complete opposite of the intent of the SMTP RFC's. Be generous in what you receive and conservative in what you send. RBL's are fine if you want to block mail at your home or if you have a personal web page. If you're a business, you'd better have a better plan in place than RBL. [1] By the way Daniel. He never did listen to reason, he finally came out and said that he didn't care what the RFC said. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:danielc;dc-resources.net] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: RBL's I'll jump in here. Thus far RBL's have been run by individuals. Seems some had axes to grind, others refused to consider that their understanding of the RFCs was wrong and others were just plain incompetent or lazy. An acquaintance of mine had a dispute with one such list and wound up having to write the author of the current RFC on SMTP mail (since Mr. Postel is long since deceased) to get the guy to listen to reason. In theory, they are a good idea. In practice they can, and have, caused more problems then they are worth. So, here's a real-world example for you: DomainA has inadvertently left it's SMTP mail server wide open for relay. A hacker finds and exploits them. A RBL list is alerted and DomainA is blacklisted. DomainB frequently does business, as a buyer, with DomainA. DomainB subscribes to the aforementioned RBL. DomainB sends a message to his sales rep at DomainA who duly and promply replies. The reply never gets there because of the RBL. The sales rep forwards the NDR to his admin. Said admin contacts the RBL admin. He learns what happens and closes the relay. branch What Should Happen: Said admin contacts RBL admin. RBL admin tests and sees problem is fixed. DomainA removed from RBL What HAS Happened too often in the past: Said admin contacts RBL admin. Gets ignored. Or RBL admin's test is flawed. Or maybe he just doesn't care. Or maybe he wants money (extortion). Net result of the second scenario: purchase order goes to another company and DomainA is screwed. - Original Message - From: David Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: RE: RBL's Mr. Scharff, I understand that you're currently a bit jaded with this topic (or you could be enjoying yourself not sure... The email intonation module on my pc is broken *grin*). But, would you mind taking a moment to explain or send links to previous explanations as to why RBL is not a good idea? With the research that I have conducted I cannot find any serious issues with it. Of course I'm missing quite a lot of first hand knowledge with this technology since I have yet to incorporate within my test environment. I fear that I might be apart of that 32% your talking about and wish to... um... well... *shrug* not be. Thanks for the input! David Perhaps you should read your e-mails before you send them. Just cause you wrote something down and it sounds one way in your head doesn't meant that it will sound the same way on the other end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's I guess the #include humor.h module wasn't loaded for you this morning. I'd suggest that the spelling remark was only rude to a subset of the 32% of admins who actually could spell RBL and thus understood the barb. As a journalism major, with an English minor I am quite concerned about any grammatical errors I might have made in the comment you are referring to. Would you please be so kind as to point out my grammar errors so that I might endeavor to eliminate them from my future postings? Now, as to your point that my statement that of the 32% of mail administrators who can spell RBL many are unable to comprehend the implications of it: I've made more than 8,000 replies in various public forums in the last 12 months. I've read over 50,000 threads during that same period. It's been a relatively slow year for me, but even if we take those low water numbers back 4 years it's still a fairly substantial number of administrators and posts that I've encountered. Based on that vast experience with and exposure to mail
RE: VPN breaks Outlook
For WinNT 4.0 in H-node - Q142309 Q119493 is a good article describing the different node types. NetBIOS name cache WINS server - 3 queries 1.5 second timeout. B-node broadcast - 3 broadcasts with 750ms timeout. LMHOSTS file HOSTS file DNS server I thought I read somewhere that Win2K reverses the WINS and DNS portion of the lookups, but can not find this article any more. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I think its still the same in W2k as well - an h-node WINS client will check hosts and a DNS server last even if you have enabled DNS for Windows Name Resolution to resolve *netbios* names. Specific apps like Outlook, etc. of course use hosts and DNS first. Heck, I could be wrong, I havent looked it up. The only thing I am sure about anymore is that college-aged girls are starting to call me Sir. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I believe that was changed with Win2k - the behavior you describe is 100% correct NT4 and before. I can't remember if that's been a strictly observational thing or if I read it somewhere, but I believe I read it somewhere. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook If however, you are using Netbios over TCP/IP and WINS for name resolution, HOSTS and DNS are the *last* things attempted. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Nope - first match wins. In the case of Win2k, however, HOSTS comes before LMHOSTS, so it seems to win. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook usually HOSTS overrides them all. [1] maybe because LanManager smells a little of IBM ? :) -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook No. LMHosts is for LanManager[1] name resolution. More properly called NetBIOS name resolution[2], i.e. when WINS isn't available and broadcast won't cut it. Hosts is for host resolution, more commonly served by DNS servers. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA [1] I got in trouble last time I said ththat word in front of an MS employee. [2] You call it maize, we call it a pain in the arse. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:thlabse;hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: VPN breaks Outlook LMHOSTS files are for your connected on a public network (internet) and HOSTS for when connected on a private. - Original Message - From: RBHATIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ? -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to map to your exchange server thats what we use here at my office and it works good. If you need more help dont hesitate to email me. rich -Original Message- From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon;hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: VPN breaks Outlook Hi, folks: Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k. Remote users have Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel PERMIT/Client. These users connect via dial-up, they can access their mailboxes and send/receive no problem. When they use LinkSys router and DSL, they can access our network, the internet and other network resources EXCEPT for their mailboxes on the E2k
RE: RBL's
Ah, yes. I recall that incident. If you choose to use a RBL, read very carefully what the criteria is to be placed on their lists. As Darcy said before, some of these folks block entire netblocks. There is one or two that I know of that have blocked the entire Sprintlink netblock. That's something like 2 million IP addresses. All because one or two spammers somewhere in that mess. RBL's are fine if you are running your own mail server at home. For businesses that depend on e-mail for their communication, why would you place the decision on who can send to your domain into the hands of some mail Nazi? I've found many of the people that run RBL's are not interested in stopping SPAM, they are interested in having the internet working the way they want it to. (i.e. Dr. Cummings) We even went to the point of contacting the author of the RFC to clarify the proper place to reject a mail message. The answer from the RBL'ers? We don't care. That's why I won't use them. Ever. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's More likely a combination of b) and a fundamental lack of understanding of how the RBL they have chosen works with regards to managing their black hole lists. Purusal of the archives with regards to Mr. Schwartz and Dr. Cumming about this time last year should provide some valuable insight to the issues with RBLs in general. That being said, I'm fairly impressed with the Spamcop.net RBL - they provide documentation of their blocked senders via the web, and are very quick to retest and remove if the problem has been solved. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to comprehend its functionality? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company business. -- Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE EMS Sales Engineer MessageOne 512.652.4500 x-244 -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Still 3rd party. I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night and the current stance on that is that they're thinking about possibly including RBL support in a future release. Darcy -Original Message- From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin;natco-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RBL's Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Policy issue
There is a fairly good white paper on this subject here: http://www.ferris.com/ Look for White Paper: Email Archiving Records Management in the sponsored research section. It also lists a number of vendors that can accommodate your needs. -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Policy issue I agree. So if I read right you are suggesting this should be a completely automated process. So I should buy into a KVS type solution or does messageone have something. :-). I'd be happy to use the Mailbox Manager in E2K if I was allowed to. And yes I know it's my job, but I sure the heck don't want to spend a week or more manually going through our IS with a lawyer looking over my shoulder. Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Policy issue Well, I'd join management in their resistance of an IT guy, no matter how talented being the one to manually delete mail on a retention period, even if the policy contains proper exclusions for items which need to be retained longer (some of which need to be retained significanly longer than a 5 year tape rotation). Sorry, I don't think it's an efficient use of someone that talented and it's too prone to human error. -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Policy issue Our lawyer is quite familiar with our business and what we do. Not to defend lawyers or anything. They are well versed in the 21CFR11 and FDA issues we face along with the legal implications of having no policy as we do now. So by default our policy for me to follow becomes keep everything and make sure backups are archived for 5 years. No system is perfect but the fact is that if you have no policy it then gives a lawyer who walks in the door for discovery purposes the right to sit and look over my shoulder while I go through all the IS and tapes. Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Policy issue It's unlikely that you or the system itself has the ability to delete mail in accordance with a well written retention policy (no offense, I've been researching this subject for a book for quite some time). If your legal counsel has simply given you a retention policy of something like 'everything older than 120 days should go' then I'd respectfully suggest you ask your legal counsel to revisit the policy as it's woefully inadequate.. especially for a company such as yours. -Original Message- From: James Liddil To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/4/2002 9:00 AM Subject: Policy issue I seem to be facing resistance from management on implementation of an e-mail policy. Despite everything our legal counsel provided and such are not ready to go forward. They have a problem with either the system of myself deleting mail that past the retention period. Some feel that a member of management should be the one deleting the e-mail. I'm sure you can see what's wrong with that picture. I am looking for advice, besides sit on my hands and wait until an event happens that forces them to implement a policy. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP to aol.com
Please include a copy of the NDR. -Original Message- From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SMTP to aol.com What would cause my messages to AOL addresses to be rejected by AOL? I can send reliably to any other domain. Daniel _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Content Filtering
Insert evil booming laughter here -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering I think there's a muppet who does this sort of thing. I saw it on Sesame Street. Grover: Oh! I have gotten too much SPAM on my mail server! What will I do? (Puff of smoke and a new muppet appears) Grover: Who are you? Content Filter: They call me... the Content Filter. And do you know *why* they call me the Content Filter? It is because I *love* to filter... content. I will go through your message store now! Grover: Uh, well, you need to first meet with my manager and- Content Filter: SILENCE! (waves hand and Grover stands perplexed) One... one piece of SPAM... (hits Delete key) Two... two pieces of SPAM... (hits Delete key)... (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering You forgot the quack. There have been numerous discussions regarding content filtering and how it works. Decide what you are willing to risk in lost mail, or additional manpower resources versus what you are trying to accomplish. Then go find the tool that meets those requirements. Looking a tools before defining your needs is bass ackwards. -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Yes you do. I expect a full report on my desk by 8am tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering I was going to but haven't had a chance yet. I guess I need to take a look at it. -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Have you installed or tested 7.0? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Antigen is great for virus scanning, but they have only recently gotten into content scanning. And their content scanning is very basic so far. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Sybari Antigen for Exchange is an excellent package. We use it and are very happy with the automatic updates and the content filtering. Also you can create templates to distribute new changes (upgrades are free for the life of your contract). They are releasing their Gold Package at MEC, and were voted Best of Show for their Gold Package -- Antigen 7.0. Geoff... -Original Message- From: Cooke, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Excellent that works for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Not what, but who. I am the most reliable content filter for Exchange. For only $375k (plus 125k annual maint) I'll come filter your mail. -Original Message- From: Cooke, Brian To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/1/2002 8:52 AM Subject: Content Filtering Hi all, I just had a quick question in regards to a content filter add on and which would be the best to use for Exchange 5.5. Currently we are using NEMX but I would like to explore other options. What do you all feel is the most reliable content filter? Thanks, Brian _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe
RE: Content Filtering
You forgot the quack. There have been numerous discussions regarding content filtering and how it works. Decide what you are willing to risk in lost mail, or additional manpower resources versus what you are trying to accomplish. Then go find the tool that meets those requirements. Looking a tools before defining your needs is bass ackwards. -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Yes you do. I expect a full report on my desk by 8am tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering I was going to but haven't had a chance yet. I guess I need to take a look at it. -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Have you installed or tested 7.0? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Antigen is great for virus scanning, but they have only recently gotten into content scanning. And their content scanning is very basic so far. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Sybari Antigen for Exchange is an excellent package. We use it and are very happy with the automatic updates and the content filtering. Also you can create templates to distribute new changes (upgrades are free for the life of your contract). They are releasing their Gold Package at MEC, and were voted Best of Show for their Gold Package -- Antigen 7.0. Geoff... -Original Message- From: Cooke, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Excellent that works for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Content Filtering Not what, but who. I am the most reliable content filter for Exchange. For only $375k (plus 125k annual maint) I'll come filter your mail. -Original Message- From: Cooke, Brian To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/1/2002 8:52 AM Subject: Content Filtering Hi all, I just had a quick question in regards to a content filter add on and which would be the best to use for Exchange 5.5. Currently we are using NEMX but I would like to explore other options. What do you all feel is the most reliable content filter? Thanks, Brian _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones
You pronounce it the same way it is spelled. Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1] [1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line. -Original Message- From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list (been monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have always wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would hate to insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage. Thanks...Ray Quote of the day: When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh at him. -- Thomas Szasz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Storage Limit warnings
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm 3.35 -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Storage Limit warnings Is there a way to customize the warnings that Exchange 5.5 sends out to warn users for storage limits? TIA! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: message tracking logs
You can set that under a configuration setting in the System Attendant. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: message tracking logs You should configure the message tracking log retention period so that you don't have to delete them manually. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jojo Solis Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: message tracking logs is it a safe to manually delete the mesasge tracking log file? E2K,SP2 thanks, jojo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR to Uconn
Some mailers get ornery about sending to a domain without and MX record. They expect to see and MX record and they should default to the A record if the MX record is not available, but they don't always do it well. Go Huskies! -Original Message- From: Sandhya Pai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR to Uconn They have taken the uconnvm out to make it easier. From here I can send to either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm surprised that it's not working for you. Sandhya -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR to Uconn Uconn.edu does have an MX record. It points to uconnvm.uconn.edu at 137.99.26.3. Try resending the message, leaving out the uconnvm part of the address. -Peter -Original Message- From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR to Uconn Exch 5.5. Sp4 W2K Sp2 A user is trying send an email to a recipient @uconnvm.uconn.edu and it is bouncing. Running the RESTEST.EXE utility fails and states it would have been queued for delivery later. I checked the domain against the http://www.zmailer.org/mxverify.html and find that there does not appear to be any MX records for the domain. When I ran Sam Spade's SMTP tool the recipient address is ok. I believe I recall from a post to the list some time ago that Exchange will not deliver mail to systems that do not contain MX records. If this correct, is there anyway to resolve this short of getting Uconn to put an MX record in there DNS servers. I can already hear there response to this! Thanks in advance -Dave Vantine _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This message is private or privileged. If you are not the person for whom this message is intended, please delete it and notify me immediately, and please do not copy or send this message to anyone else. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IMS routing question:
Unless you would like to offload such things as gateway antivirus protection and content screening. Those are good applications to put on relay servers like you are talking about. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IMS routing question: A relay server of some kind /can/ be a good idea for security reasons... but there's no reason that relay server couldn't be an IIS SMTP server instead of a Sendmail server (i.e. there's nothing magic about Sendmail). If your IMS server is a dedicated box (no mailboxes) the need for a relay server is somewhat diminished in my mind. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IMS routing question: Currently, we're running Exchange 5.5 SP4 with hotfixes on an NT4.0 SP6A servers. We have 2 mailbox servers with one IMS/Bridgehead server. One of the mailbox servers also has an IMC with a cost of 99 as a just in case scenario. Currently, our Internet mail comes through the UNIX firewall which performs a relay function using post.office. The firewall is going to be changed and will not perform this relay function any longer. Currently, our ISP performs queuing for us for up to 4 days worth of mail should our site be unavailable. My question is this: Since we will not longer have this relaying function from the UNIX firewalls, the mail will go directly via port 25 to the Exchange IMS/bridgehead server. The UNIX administrator insists that it is a good idea to put a UNIX Sendmail server in between the firewall and the Exchange server for queuing purposes, however, I don't see the need for it. Can someone please explain to me if this UNIX server is necessary? To me it seems like an extra hop for no reason. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to block UCE at MSX55-IMC level
You would need to add another layer to that. Block sender to recipient. One mans UCE may be what someone else wants to see. It would be a pretty intensive application to do those types of lookups. All you are doing at the point is centralizing the delete junk mail rule that users may have set up. And it still wouldn't work for those spamers that change their send to address each mail bombing round. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to block UCE at MSX55-IMC level I was thinking the same thing about the reqs. They are all actually nice features, but I don't see them anywhere as of now. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to block UCE at MSX55-IMC level A very specific set of requirements that I'm not aware any products currently meet. What's your budget? I'll whip one up for the right price. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange List Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How to block UCE at MSX55-IMC level Hi All, MSX 5.5+SP4 We are looking for a product that helps out to stop UCE, this product should allow the users to send (via email) a particular UCE received to the product-database for this database to block future incoming messages with same sender/subject, also the users should receive a report of all messages blocked in a weekly basis. Hope you can share your experiences with the list. tia -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Monitoring application for Exchange
But you're a bank... What about Tivoli? Tries to keep a straight face -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Monitoring application for Exchange Just swamped and the head honcho wanted some quick answers!! Plus it's Friday so I might have been feeling a little lazy as well.. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Monitoring application for Exchange Don't allow internet access there at WF, eh? There may even be mention of some in the FAQ, but now you've made me too lazy to go look. We use ProVision Network Monitor, which is now owned by someone else and I don't recommend it anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Monitoring application for Exchange Is there is a product out there that will monitor the application/system/security NT logs on exchange servers and e-mail certain errors? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5
Well, your TCO just went up by doing BLB. The cost for the extra tapes, the lost time that the drives are backing up data that has already been backed up when they could be backing up something else(opportunity costs) and staff costs to restore and item that could have been undeleted by the user. Be an even bigger hero to your CEO/CFO by stop doing BLB. Set a deleted items retention period of 30 days. Write a policy stating that post 30 days, you have an SLA of 24 hours to restore a mailbox or piece of mail. Anyone that needs to have a mailbox/message restored will be charged $150 for the restore. That will cut down on the number of people who want you to restore the joke they deleted 3 months ago. You are relying on a crutch to support what amounts to a poor policy and implementation. So you know - 2 mailboxes and nobody gets BLB. -Original Message- From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 i have a total of 3600 mailboxes and i do a blb daily included in my full backup of the exchange server, with each mailbox an average of 1gb and i have a fiber AIT tape library and use backupexec8.6 and i have not had a single issue with blb. Yes its true it takes longer than if you dont use blb and yes its true it increases the tape space beeded, but those are not good enough reasons to say Oh BLB sucks, you absolutely should never use BLB Backup exec is one of the if not the best backup software for exchange brick level backups. Arcserve users do not bother with BLB. Obviously i dont do BLB on all my servers, i do use deleted item retension, i have 82 sites with 114 exchange servers, we dont use blb on all of them, but we do use blb on exchange servers that hold all the high level execs mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Peña, Botp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 Hi Kanee, I do use blb, but only for a chosen few. I have to do this since it was consuming our backup window and our tape (we have other things besides mail :-). I love blb folder level backup. It save me once (my boss gave me thumbs up when I recovered his beloved folder in minutes :-). I love the mailbox backup level too, it save me once, too (an admin screwed up with exmerge, wiping out a dozen mailboxes :-). Suffice it to say, blb is a great feature poorly implemented (by the backup sw or by exchange or both). If blb can backup w the speed and optimization of _normal_ dir/info store backup, then I will go back to doing full blb again. This is just humble opinion only. Thanks -botp -Original Message- From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 All you funny guys have not given me a single reason as to why you should not do brick level back ups and your comments carry no value unless you back it up with some substance..and hope none of funny cats are using arcserve as your backup product, if you are i understand why you are so scared of brick level backups... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 LOL! It's funny. I insert one little word and I agree with you: ITS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY TO *NOT* DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, IT WILL SAVE YOU SO MUCH HEADACHE AND HEART ACHE LATER..TRUST ME. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kanee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 This has been a known issue with veritas products. The mapi32.dll file is very sensitive and reports errors on messages as cannot open and thus will show the status of backup as failed. There isnt really much you can do about this, except ask the user to delete the message its referencing in the error message from his mailbox and empty it from deleted items. I have spent some time with veritas and they point fingers at microsoft and i spoke to microsoft and they point the fingers back to veritas, veritas knows of this issue and they say they are looking at a solution and should be out in the next build for backup exec8.6, i know you use netbackup so maybe you should look into their next build for netbackup. Even though this error pops up and the overall status of the backup job shows up as failed, the backup in actuality is successful, you can restore the users mailbox and the only thing missing would be those messages that it reported as corrupted or cannot open. So dont loose any sleep over this you are fine. dONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING YOU NOT TO DO
RE: Mail loop....
Check it again. Go to the mailbox and check the OOO rules and normal rules. If nothing is forwarding to the internet, it may be just a matter of time before the last message that was looping dies a horrible death. -Original Message- From: Kelly Leavitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail loop OOO was disabled when I disabled forward to internet. Any more ideas? I think the problem in on the receiving end. Thanks, Kelly -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail loop If it's still looping and you've left on OOO, check the OOO rules on the user. Some folks use the rule sets in OOO to auto-reply or auto-forward to the internet. -Original Message- From: Kelly Leavitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mail loop NT 4.0 SP 6a Exchange 5.5, SP 4 I'm getting the following message from an auto reply to an internet address (I know auto reply to Internet = BAD). Anyway, how do I stop it? I've disabled reply to the internet, stopped and started the IMC and we're still getting them. We get them every 5 minutes, with all times except Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:29:19 -0400 incremented each time. I suspect that there is nothing I can do from this side, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Kelly -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:MAILER-DAEMON@ SMTP1.MX.PITDC 1.STARGATE.NET] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:09:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:failure notice Auto forwarded by a Rule Hi. This is the qmail-send program at smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 11780 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 18:09:52 - Received: from dap-208-40-156-159.nfas.perrysville.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO mti.millenniatec.com) (208.40.156.159) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 18:09:52 - Thread-Index: AcISPJIiJAuNm7sgTheoK2IIKfU7Qg== Received: from MTI ([192.100.0.17]) by mti.millenniatec.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:10:53 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Finder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Finder re solder and dross content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:29:19 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: Finder [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C21225.EB657520 MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2002 18:10:53.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DD58C40:01C2123C] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A mistake was made...
You can still recover from that. Get a big magnet and go to town. -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... If mailbox deletion fails, try FDISK on the server, see if that helps. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 21:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge will work. From Q260037: If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line or MTS-ID. If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for recovery on the Outlook client. If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's a mailbox, by mailbox deletion. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Mitchell Mike Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A mistake was made... Outlook 98. exchange 5.5 sp4 User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake. The Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people read it. What can I do? Thanks in advance. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A mistake was made...
Ah, yes. Assign minion to get on that immediately and have it complete before we return from the cigar bar. -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... No, _we_ could recover from that... there's a difference :) -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 13:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... You can still recover from that. Get a big magnet and go to town. -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... If mailbox deletion fails, try FDISK on the server, see if that helps. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 21:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge will work. From Q260037: If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line or MTS-ID. If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for recovery on the Outlook client. If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's a mailbox, by mailbox deletion. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Mitchell Mike Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A mistake was made... Outlook 98. exchange 5.5 sp4 User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake. The Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people read it. What can I do? Thanks in advance. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MEC 2002
hands Gary a cigar -Original Message- From: Clark, John A (FUSA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MEC 2002 It appears as though he needs a lot more than just a beer -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MEC 2002 hands Gary a Corona -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MEC 2002 Somebody give Gary his medication. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MEC 2002 It's just a thought, but did it occur to you to actually look at the fscking MEC website? And perchance at where the hotels are in relation to the conference center? Or even the part of the clearly totally irrelevant page where it STATES that shuttles will be available from some of the hotels just like EVERY OTHER FREAKIN' MEC CONFERENCE Or was that too difficult? Or is your time somehow more valuable than ours? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MEC 2002 Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference? I don't think I will be able to get a car. Michael Woodruff System Administrator http://www.inchord.com/ inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] personalmail _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp
Limit the number of connections and limit the size of the mail. Connection reset. Bye-bye. If you're so concerned with not exposing your Exchange server directly to the internet, then place a relay server behind your firewall to accept mail from External sources and then pass the mail to your Exchange servers. Anyone trying to get to your relaying server has to go through the firewall and that traffic can be analyzed for any sort of attack that someone may think up (not likely, SMTP has been around for a while). By putting the relaying server in the DMZ (look up what a DMZ does) you have mail sitting out there where it shouldn't be. Any server in the DMZ should be considered expendable. Mail sitting on an expendable server keeps me up at night. -Original Message- From: Cook, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Don, what if I sent you 100,000 messages at the same time? What if your clients configured no limit to messages and I sent you 1,000 messages with 100mb attachments. Internet mail is down. Explain that to the ceo. Jason Cook J.H. Ellwood and Associates Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp How the hell can a server be taken down with a DoS to port 25? You don't open the entire exchange server to the internet, only a dumba$$ would do that. All that is required for exchange having external access is port 25. Your theory suggests someone would actually open the entire server up to the world. As a side note, if I want to DoS you, I'm not going to just pick your mail server, I'm going to pick your entire network. Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Andy Chris -- I guess our needs here are somehwat different, perhaps. We don't use Exchange in the DMZ (that's ridiculous overkill) but we do have relays out there ... and we lock 'em down to specific ports internally as well. I disagree that it would be just as harmful as in the DMZ, though ... perform a DoS on a box in the DMZ, you only kill communications through that one box. DoS the Exchange Server, bam -- you just lost ALL email services. Granted, we've got more systems to support, but that's the price we pay for the security and redundancy that comes with it. And Chris, you asked to demonstrate an exploit ... we prefer to not wait for one to be demonstrated, but rather do the best we can to preemptively protect ourselves before one is found: use relays in the DMZ, and mix relay products so what exploits one may not be expoitable on another. Have different flavors of antivirus protection at the relay, Exchange, and at the client. Like I said before though, it ain't right for everybody ... it takes some bank to make it happen. Our requirements here are a little more anal than others'. Jon -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp On specific ports? Sure, why not? I'd allow 443 to an inside box. It requires authentication and it's encrypted. Any vulnerability in the application itself would be just as harmful in the DMZ. I'd allow 25 to an inside box. The endpoint is a system that accepts the mail and scans it for viruses and malicious content. Any vulnerability in the application would be almost as harmful in the DMZ. As it stands I have half the number of systems to secure in my design as you do in yours. If we both block 98% of the vulnerabilities on those systems, you're less secure. I contend that I can do better than you given fewer systems to focus on. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't good uses for a DMZ. There are. Exchange just isn't one of them. -Original Message- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:53 PM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp So you'd allow from any to your inside boxes? That would keep me awake at night. :) -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp but you're not talking about a good use of the DMZ. the DMZ should be an end point, not a hop. it doesn't really matter where your SMTP virus scanner sits - you should have one, I agree. but on the DMZ doesn't really make much difference based on your loose
RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp
Nope. I leave that type of restricting to the folks that know firewalls. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp What? You mean I can limit what happens on my network? Wow Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Limit the number of connections and limit the size of the mail. Connection reset. Bye-bye. If you're so concerned with not exposing your Exchange server directly to the internet, then place a relay server behind your firewall to accept mail from External sources and then pass the mail to your Exchange servers. Anyone trying to get to your relaying server has to go through the firewall and that traffic can be analyzed for any sort of attack that someone may think up (not likely, SMTP has been around for a while). By putting the relaying server in the DMZ (look up what a DMZ does) you have mail sitting out there where it shouldn't be. Any server in the DMZ should be considered expendable. Mail sitting on an expendable server keeps me up at night. -Original Message- From: Cook, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Don, what if I sent you 100,000 messages at the same time? What if your clients configured no limit to messages and I sent you 1,000 messages with 100mb attachments. Internet mail is down. Explain that to the ceo. Jason Cook J.H. Ellwood and Associates Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp How the hell can a server be taken down with a DoS to port 25? You don't open the entire exchange server to the internet, only a dumba$$ would do that. All that is required for exchange having external access is port 25. Your theory suggests someone would actually open the entire server up to the world. As a side note, if I want to DoS you, I'm not going to just pick your mail server, I'm going to pick your entire network. Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Andy Chris -- I guess our needs here are somehwat different, perhaps. We don't use Exchange in the DMZ (that's ridiculous overkill) but we do have relays out there ... and we lock 'em down to specific ports internally as well. I disagree that it would be just as harmful as in the DMZ, though ... perform a DoS on a box in the DMZ, you only kill communications through that one box. DoS the Exchange Server, bam -- you just lost ALL email services. Granted, we've got more systems to support, but that's the price we pay for the security and redundancy that comes with it. And Chris, you asked to demonstrate an exploit ... we prefer to not wait for one to be demonstrated, but rather do the best we can to preemptively protect ourselves before one is found: use relays in the DMZ, and mix relay products so what exploits one may not be expoitable on another. Have different flavors of antivirus protection at the relay, Exchange, and at the client. Like I said before though, it ain't right for everybody ... it takes some bank to make it happen. Our requirements here are a little more anal than others'. Jon -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp On specific ports? Sure, why not? I'd allow 443 to an inside box. It requires authentication and it's encrypted. Any vulnerability in the application itself would be just as harmful in the DMZ. I'd allow 25 to an inside box. The endpoint is a system that accepts the mail and scans it for viruses and malicious content. Any vulnerability in the application would be almost as harmful in the DMZ. As it stands I have half the number of systems to secure in my design as you do in yours. If we both block 98% of the vulnerabilities on those systems, you're less secure. I contend that I can do better than you given fewer systems to focus on. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't good uses for a DMZ. There are. Exchange just isn't one of them. -Original Message- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:53 PM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: lesser of the evils - ssl or smtp Subject: RE: lesser of the evils - ssl
RE: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages?
Not to mention that some of the net nazi black hole lists will add your domain because they hate HTML so much. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages? Phil, I would urge your CEO to think twice about this. There are a few reasons. A) Many folks don't want HTML email. B) A 10K graphic just eats up space, makes downloading of email slow, and generally is useless to anyone but the sender. It's a cute trick, but that's it. It adds NOTHING of value. Personally if a company started sending us emails with that in everyone, we could quickly ask them to stop or block them from sending us email. -Original Message- From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages? Exchange 5.5 SP4 Out CEO wants us to add some HTML to the top of all outbound messages. It is a graphic with a hotlink to our website. 10K total size. Can I configure this from the server? Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A mistake was made...
If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge will work. From Q260037: If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line or MTS-ID. If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for recovery on the Outlook client. If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's a mailbox, by mailbox deletion. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Mitchell Mike Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A mistake was made... Outlook 98. exchange 5.5 sp4 User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake. The Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people read it. What can I do? Thanks in advance. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A mistake was made...
You lost me for a second there Craig. We were talking about a message not the entire mailbox, but the same principle applies to a deleted message correct? -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... A mailbox is not a container, but rather a view of a subset of the objects within a container having some common attribute (i.e. belong to a specific mailbox). Deleting a mailbox is NOT the same thing as deleting a container and its contents. Deleting a mailbox merely deletes a view and nulls out the appropriate attributes. Deleting a mailbox does not cause a message object to be expunged, at least not directly. Think of it like this. If a TV show is only available on cable channel 89 and you eliminate 100% of the subscribers that had the ability to view channel 89, that does not destroy the source. It might lead to a garbage collection exercise that will cause a purge to occur, but deleting the views is not deleting the data. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge will work. From Q260037: If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line or MTS-ID. If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for recovery on the Outlook client. If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's a mailbox, by mailbox deletion. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A mistake was made... Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Mitchell Mike Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A mistake was made... Outlook 98. exchange 5.5 sp4 User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake. The Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people read it. What can I do? Thanks in advance. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging)
But will it warm the syrup for my waffles? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) But,but! The magazine on the plane said that the next version will be SQL based and wireless! ;) -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) Neither will ESE98 being ported to SQL Server nor does the next version of Exchange have an SQL Server based database engine. As I mentioned already. Please check that information with the source you got it from and stop posting plain wrong information here which might confuse other people. Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) I know that, I was making a dumb joke about the fact that SQL Server will be providing the next database engine for the next version of Exchange. And the code name for the next version of SQL Server is Yukon. Can you confirm that ESE98 is being ported to SQL Server? TIA --Felicity The next version of Exchange is not codenamed Yukon. William *Titanium* Racing Bikes Why ride when you can fly? - William Lefkovics www.airborne.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Felicity Smith Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) Unified Messaging is faceing pressures from two opposite directions. One from Americans with Disabilities Act which requires greater richness - ie text to voice, braille, etc, and at the opposite pole - greater thinness - ie minimalism for text based phones - which strip away all conten but text, and then compress words for instance - removing vowels, TLA's etc. MIS will now be included with the next version of Exchange (code name Yukon). --Felicity That'd be worth reading. I'm _still_ nicking odd quotes from you when I need to compare messaging to dial-tone availability :) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 00:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) Catch me in the right mood and maybe I will do a data dump for you . . . -Original Message- From: Leonard Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 21:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging) Iam looking for information on: 1. Messaging Collaboration 2. Unified Messaging The type of information I am looking for is on: 1. Why it is happening (who it is for) 2. Who is making it happening (vendors) 3. How is it happening (solutions) Looking for Articles? Consortiums? Note: I've got Technet, so I already have the Microsoft view on this topic. Thanks in advanced, Leonard _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
Yes, but IBM finds this compelling need to place an e on to everything for some odd reason. I wonder how much the marketing genius got paid for coming up with that idea. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server ProLiants have that, we just don't call it that. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Grafton Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server Ed asks; Please share what RAID5e is. More info: http://www-5.ibm.com/pl/eserver/xseries/ulotki/psref-raidtech.pdf Mind the wrap, mind the .pdf. Andy Creuna Danmark A/S Snaregade 10 1205 København K Denmark Tel : +45 22 68 58 23 Fax : +45 70 20 72 42 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
Translation for the reading impaired: leave it alone. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange My rigorous Exchange maintenance involves a beer and some brats. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange Explain what you mean by the phrase rigorous maintenance. Your administrative practices may be the root cause of the problem you are trying to solve. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook appointments on Exchange We're having a severe problem with a few mailboxes on our Exchange 5.5 server, even though we maintain a rigorous maintenance schedule on our stores. A few users (all running Outlook 2000 SR-1) can no longer respond to any appointment invitations -- doing so causes outlook.exe to fail with a Dr. Watson access violation error. Running /cleanfreebusy does not cause Outlook to hang (as happens when some calendar corruption occurs), but it doesn't solve the problem, either. This problem follows the user to other workstations as well -- it's definitely tied to the mailbox, not the client. Exmerge can successfully pull down the contents of the mailbox, but I'd rather not use that to recreate the mailbox because it will break all the existing appointment links. TechNet and newsgroup scans have provided zero solutions ... any ideas, anyone? Thanks, Jon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP log analysis
Below inline. -Original Message- From: Lindsay Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SMTP log analysis Okay I need an opinion on exactly what is going on in this log file. Just a fresh opinion to see if I'm just being a bonehead. Thanks in advance... 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 EHLO - aus-exch-01.ztechinc.com 0 0 4 0 125 SMTP - - - - This is your server say Hi! 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 250-wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com 0 0 31 0 266 SMTP - - - - This is mail-store.com saying it got your EHLO 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 MAIL - FROM:+SIZE=3169 0 0 4 0 266 SMTP - - - - From: is (note, some hosts reject this) 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 250+Sender++and+extensions+(SIZE=3169)+Ok 0 0 43 0 407 SMTP - - - - They got the From data fine. 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 RCPT - TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 4 0 407 SMTP - - - - Your server telling the other host to whom the mail should be delivered to. 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 250+Recipient++Ok[EMAIL PROTECTED]+Ok mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 39 0 547 SMTP - - - - Their server is OK with that. 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 DATA - - 0 0 4 0 547 SMTP - - - - Your server telling their server that data is on the way. 2002-06-03 09:29:29 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 354+Ok+Send+data+ending+with+CRLF.CRLF 0 0 42 0 672 SMTP - - - - Their server is ready for data. 2002-06-03 09:29:30 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 250+Message+received:+20020603091609.HFAI9038.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@au s-exch-01.ztechinc.com 0 0 98 0 2000 SMTP - - - - Them telling you that they've gotten the message and now have accepted responsibility to deliver it. 2002-06-03 09:29:30 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 QUIT - - 0 0 4 0 2000 SMTP - - - - You closing the connection 2002-06-03 09:29:30 wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1 AUS-EXCH-01 - 25 - - 221+wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com+ESMTP+server+closing+connection 0 0 63 0 2125 SMTP - - - - All done. What's the problem? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Identifying your Exchange Org
Bankers! g The SMTP address should be unique and you may be able to code the web app to get that information, but it's a lot of work in place of having the user do it themselves. -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Identifying your Exchange Org Yes, I tried that, they did not want to have them type anything in -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Identifying your Exchange Org Is this for an internal BofA migration? If so, why not have the users enter their e-mail address and you can determine their org for them. -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Identifying your Exchange Org In preparation for Exchange 2000 migration, we have created an online survey to help identify what Exchange 5.5 applications need to be migrated and gather contact information to help expedite the planning. The survey starts by asking you to click on your Exchange Organization, but we are worried that people will not know which one they belong. I had an idea to create some way for them to click on a button and tell them which Org that they belong to. I was thinking we could run some VB script that identifies their Exchange Server by looking at their registry and comparing a list of known servers. Does this sound like it is feasible? Anyone ever had to do anything like this? Anyone have any sample code to assist if this seems like the right way to go? - Ken Hatley, MCSE Messaging Consolidation 972.997.9261 page [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 888.262.2337 pin 1112859 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installing Exchange Admin on .net server
Yes, but the server installs the application so fast that I don't have time to read it. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Installing Exchange Admin on .net server There's documentation? How amazing! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hummert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Installing Exchange Admin on .net server Yea that's because it's not supported yet. They say that if you read the release documentation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Installing Exchange Admin on .net server Not that I know of. Terminal services rock. - Original Message - From: CHRIS H [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Installing Exchange Admin on .net server Has anyone had luck gettng Exchange Admin installed on .net server? I know it is a beta, but it seems it sees Exchange Server and says Whoa, stop! without waiting to see what you are going to install. Exchange Server 5.5 Microsoft Issue Description: Exchange Server 5.5 is not supported by this version of Windows. For more information, refer to http://www.microsoft.com/exchange . Contact Information: Microsoft Web site: http://www.microsoft.com Telephone: (425) 635-7172 (U.S.) or (905) 568-3503 (Canada) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP message
Brackets around the rcpt to: -Original Message- From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SMTP message I am using Exchange Server 5.5 I am using an application that establishes an SMTP connection to my SMTP server and sends an SMTP message to the outside world. The problem is the message will not be delivered. It appears that the SMTP server will not see the recipient in its local site and then bounce the message back undeliverable. Of course the recipient isn't in the local site because it is an outside email address. Example of what I am doing. Telnet mail.stainsafe.com 25 Mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Data Subject: test message This comes back undeliverable almost immediately. It appears to me that the SMTP server is not trying to send the message out, it is looking for the recipient locally and then rejecting it because the recipient doesn't exist. How can I have the SMTP server send the message to the MX server of notmydomain.com? If I am confusing you all I apologize. Thanks for the help. Ed _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
I guess the point of it would be YMMV. Depending on your traffic patterns, your need to regulate traffic between sites by size and or times or to throttle the connection. With E2K you put in your best guess and if it's not what you need, it's not that hard to change it. We have two main data centers with dual OC3's between them. I was going to have all the servers in one great big routing group and if the network folks whine about all the chatter, then I'll split them in two. -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Exchange 2000 resource kit chapter 31 Reliable always on connectivity is more important that high bandwdth this is the only reference I could find. There is also a white paper from MS but all it says is Generally, servers within a routing group are connected by a high speed network I have seen the text in the E2k reskit repeated more times than the whitepaper. There must be some stats out there!? Leo I find it very hard to believe there are no stats available as yet, surely there are enough installations out there for MS to put their hands up and give some detail. Leo Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Message giving false reports?
Two reasons possible. An orphaned object still exists for that address in the DL that they are sending to or one of the users still has the user listed as a delegate. -Original Message- From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Message giving false reports? Hi all Just a quick one hopefully. I have a user running Outlook XP and when he sends a meeting request to anyone on the GAL he gets the following message back from the system. Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:Stuart Atkin Interview Sent: 22/05/2002 13:38 The following recipient(s) could not be reached: kuhn, patrick on 22/05/2002 13:38 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Owen Williams Gr;l=OW-MAIL-020522123752Z-18695 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:OWMAIL:OW-MAIL smart, paul on 22/05/2002 13:38 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Owen Williams Gr;l=OW-MAIL-020522123752Z-18695 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:OWMAIL:OW-MAIL harper, roger on 22/05/2002 13:38 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Owen Williams Gr;l=OW-MAIL-020522123752Z-18695 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:OWMAIL:OW-MAIL I have no record of any of these users in either of the recipients containers, not even hidden or custom recipients although I do know one of them used to be an employee until 6 months ago. His account was deleted 3 months ago. I can find no reference to any of these recipients in his contacts folder either. Where should I be looking for this please. Exch 5.5 SP4 on Win2K SP2. Many thanks Dom _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000
Depends on the version of Outlook. Back level clients will query the E2K server which uses DSproxy services to do the lookup for the client. Outlook 2000 and XP are given a nearby GC server to do it's own lookups. -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Thanks Chris for opening me up on this. So, now if I need to configure someone's Outlook using Internet E-mail profile using POP3/SMTP , I wonder how would the Outlook Client will now get the organization's e-mail addresses ? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 E2K has no directory of its own, thus nothing to connect to via LDAP. You'll need to point the client machines to the same directory that Exchange uses. -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Any idea, how do I install LDAP under Exchange 2000. Right now when I use Exchange System Manager under Server -- Protocols I don't see this as a protocol and hence when I try to do LDAP quarry from a client machine it comes back with an error about Operational Failure . Please, any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated. I searched Knowledge Bases of Microsoft without much success. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000
Yes. Thanks for the clarification. -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Note that this procedure only applies if you use a MAPI client like Outlook 97/98/2000/2002 (98 2000 in CW mode only). Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Depends on the version of Outlook. Back level clients will query the E2K server which uses DSproxy services to do the lookup for the client. Outlook 2000 and XP are given a nearby GC server to do it's own lookups. -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Thanks Chris for opening me up on this. So, now if I need to configure someone's Outlook using Internet E-mail profile using POP3/SMTP , I wonder how would the Outlook Client will now get the organization's e-mail addresses ? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: LDAP in Exchange 2000 E2K has no directory of its own, thus nothing to connect to via LDAP. You'll need to point the client machines to the same directory that Exchange uses. -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: LDAP in Exchange 2000 Any idea, how do I install LDAP under Exchange 2000. Right now when I use Exchange System Manager under Server -- Protocols I don't see this as a protocol and hence when I try to do LDAP quarry from a client machine it comes back with an error about Operational Failure . Please, any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated. I searched Knowledge Bases of Microsoft without much success. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Group Mail
I'll have you know that I've obtained the rank of Degenerate, 1st Class. -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Group Mail BTW- I think most of you guys are a bunch of perverts, in case you were somehow unaware of this fact. --Felicity I searched on the internet and it is a unix utility that does File System Consistency ChecKing. I thought it was a Unix applet, only I thought is was a finger like utility. It thought maybe is was a Microsoft port like eseutil. --Felicity Sometimes you feel like a fsck. Sometimes you don't. -Original Message- From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Group Mail ! fsck. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Group Mail It is a candy bar. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Group Mail Pardon me Chris, but what does fsck mean? I am new to this list and Exchange. I checked the resource kit and it is not mentioned there. TIA --Felicity What the fsck is a Group Mail Pro? Is it too much to ask for a properly phrased technical question once in a while? Christ on cracker you people... -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Group Mail How exactly does Group Mail Pro send without and SMTP server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT Upgrade question
If your management likes Gartner reports, they suggest that the must move off 5.5 date to be 2Q04. When you think about non-support, you should also factor in that more and more technical folks are moving to E2K. The list of people that can run a 5.5 organization is going to get shorter and they'll have a harder time replacing you when you go work for a company that will upgrade. Just ask the mainframers how hard a time they had finding qualified Cobol programmers during Y2K. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT Upgrade question The only reason you have to upgrade is the fact that NT4 E5.5 are closer to becoming non-supported. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Omilian Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT Upgrade question We're a smaller company( 40 users) and we currently run NT 4.0 and Exchange 5.5. Both run great and have been very stable (knock on wood). My question is how do you approach upper management asking to upgrade to Windows and Exchange 2000 when they have the if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality? I've already tried the additional functionality route, but they're not buying it. Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Smtp connector gone mad?
OK. Make it so. I have like 30 domains that we accept mail for. Please give some more details on EXACTLY what you want to accomplish and we can try to help you out. Otherwise we're guessing or making stuff up. Some people on this list have very vivid imaginations and you wouldn't want that. -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Smtp connector gone mad? Yeah I know I have not provided all the info, sorry. We have multiple domain names and want to accept messages into the org from the internet via this connector. Regards Leo You don't need an SMTP connector for sending and receiving email. that might just be what the SMTP virtual server is for? -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20 Posted At: Thursday, May 16, 2002 4:43 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Smtp connector gone mad? Subject: RE: Smtp connector gone mad? We want to be able to accept incoming email from the internet. Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virus Attack ??
Wrong side of The Pond... -Original Message- From: Clark, John A (FUSA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning??? YIKES!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? Clue 1: Exchange Admin program. HELP menu, Help topic, Index option, type tracking and look at all the pretty little entries that come on up. Clue 2: Go on a course Clue 3: Hire someone competent to administer your Exchange system. Clue 4: Read the fscking FAQ. I'm thinking Appendix D. -Original Message- From: Jorge Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 14:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? I'm new working with exchange. How I can track the message? I enabled the track message flag on exchange. Thanks, Jorge Cardenas. -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? track the message. We have gotten one of these, and it came from the outside. The text was a message undeliverable, which comes from system attendant not the postmaster. When you track it, you will see who it really has come from. Then tell the sender they have the Klez and now would be a good time to get some A/V software and keep it up to date. Jeff -Original Message- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Virus Attack ?? Hi Recently my exchange server (email=postmaster@domain) keep on auto generate mail to the user inside the address book. I have scanned ! I have tried everything ! But it still happening ! PLS HELP Fioon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail stuck in Categorizer
Basically it means you're waiting on AD to give Exchange the location of the mail server the mailbox resides on or what action to do with the mail. It's waiting on a response from AD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mail stuck in Categorizer All, I have messages that users are calling me about that say they have been delayed. When I look in the Message Tracking System the last thing logged is: SMTP: Messages Submitted to Categorizer Does anyone know why or how this happens? How do I get them delivered? Rick _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cerification question
For a minute I thought they finally made a movie about me. -Original Message- From: David Florea [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Cerification question Poop. J. C., not J. S.. -Original Message- From: David Florea Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Cerification question 1. History of the World, Part I 2. Star Wars Trilogy 3. J. S. Superstar -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Cerification question 1. Life of Brian 2. Crimson Tide 3. Boys from Brazil -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: King, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: RE: Cerification question 2001 A Space Odyssey Clockwork Orange Full Metal Jacket Does that mean that I should only work for a dysfunctional company...? -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Cerification question Well, I just realized that my three current favorites really aren't chick flicks, so maybe I misspoke. But there's no Monty Python, so... 1. Dogma 2. Apollo 13 3. 12 Angry Men They may up my estrogen allotment when they find out about this, though... - Original Message - From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: RE: Cerification question Go on, tell us, and we can put it to the test :-) Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 16:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Cerification question That is so not fair. I doubt that my three favorite movies would endear me to a group of men, who tend to be a bit more, shall we say, neandrathal, in their choices. M _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Messed up PST
Mongo S.O.L. -Original Message- From: Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messed up PST Mongo no backup pst. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messed up PST You mean restore from the user's backup that they maintain and test frequently. Right? -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Messed up PST Restore from backup. - Original Message - From: Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Messed up PST I have a user that has a messed up .PST file. I can open all the mail however mail after than a certain date ( anything older than 2 years)cannot be moved or deleted. I ran the inbox repair tool (scanpst.exe) and it didn't fix it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks much. Matt Plahtinsky _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need to send emails as another ....
What about a workflow/compliance application? For example, a message is sent by user A to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message needs to be checked for compliance to state/federal laws. (i.e. can't say guarantee when talking about investments) The compliance officer then needs to pass the message along as if he never read it. It should look as if user A sent the message. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Then use MS SMTP Server. Use something like CDONTS to create an email and send it that way. There is no excuse for a product to need that kind of access to an Exchange server. -Original Message- From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Depending on why your doing this/how. If you are writing an application the user does some action to send this e-mail. Which I hope is why your sending e-mails on behalf of someone else. Use the ShellExecute shell32.dll which will call the default e-mail program. From there you can have it fill in all the necessary info. Subject, body, attachment. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If this is for an application, I hope you've got very strong management/legal support for what you're doing. Your users probably won't like the idea of some automated process sending out emails impersonating them. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If you are developing an Outlook application, then I have two pieces of advice for you. 1. Discard anything Tener says out of hand and 2. Go join the Outlook Developers list on slipstick.com -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Rich: Thanks for your input, I'll try this with my Exchange Admins Thanks again Enrique -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another if it was me i would go to the exchange admin and open that users mailbox and then give myself permissions to send as. Also you might have to wait 45 mins for it to take effect. Rich -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: I need to send emails as another Hello everyone: I need to send emails as another (not on behalf of) from my personal Outlook account, is this possible?. Also, the other person should not be accessible when users create an email. Thanks for your help... Enrique _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need to send emails as another ....
OK. A Dr. wants to send medical records to the CDC or other informational gathering body. The e-mail needs to be verified that it does not violate HIPAA, Graham-Leach-Bliley, and or the Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 Part 11 with respect to FDA clinical trials. You pick. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Hey, man! If it doesn't apply to *my* industry, then the solution shouldn't exist for anyone... -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another What about a workflow/compliance application? For example, a message is sent by user A to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message needs to be checked for compliance to state/federal laws. (i.e. can't say guarantee when talking about investments) The compliance officer then needs to pass the message along as if he never read it. It should look as if user A sent the message. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Then use MS SMTP Server. Use something like CDONTS to create an email and send it that way. There is no excuse for a product to need that kind of access to an Exchange server. -Original Message- From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Depending on why your doing this/how. If you are writing an application the user does some action to send this e-mail. Which I hope is why your sending e-mails on behalf of someone else. Use the ShellExecute shell32.dll which will call the default e-mail program. From there you can have it fill in all the necessary info. Subject, body, attachment. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If this is for an application, I hope you've got very strong management/legal support for what you're doing. Your users probably won't like the idea of some automated process sending out emails impersonating them. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If you are developing an Outlook application, then I have two pieces of advice for you. 1. Discard anything Tener says out of hand and 2. Go join the Outlook Developers list on slipstick.com -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Rich: Thanks for your input, I'll try this with my Exchange Admins Thanks again Enrique -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another if it was me i would go to the exchange admin and open that users mailbox and then give myself permissions to send as. Also you might have to wait 45 mins for it to take effect. Rich -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: I need to send emails as another Hello everyone: I need to send emails as another (not on behalf of) from my personal Outlook account, is this possible?. Also, the other person should not be accessible when users create an email. Thanks for your help... Enrique _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: I need to send emails as another ....
www.hireacodemonkey.com -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Cool. Where can I download this important product or service? -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another OK. A Dr. wants to send medical records to the CDC or other informational gathering body. The e-mail needs to be verified that it does not violate HIPAA, Graham-Leach-Bliley, and or the Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 - Part 11 with respect to FDA clinical trials. You pick. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Hey, man! If it doesn't apply to *my* industry, then the solution shouldn't exist for anyone... -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another What about a workflow/compliance application? For example, a message is sent by user A to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message needs to be checked for compliance to state/federal laws. (i.e. can't say guarantee when talking about investments) The compliance officer then needs to pass the message along as if he never read it. It should look as if user A sent the message. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Then use MS SMTP Server. Use something like CDONTS to create an email and send it that way. There is no excuse for a product to need that kind of access to an Exchange server. -Original Message- From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Depending on why your doing this/how. If you are writing an application the user does some action to send this e-mail. Which I hope is why your sending e-mails on behalf of someone else. Use the ShellExecute shell32.dll which will call the default e-mail program. From there you can have it fill in all the necessary info. Subject, body, attachment. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If this is for an application, I hope you've got very strong management/legal support for what you're doing. Your users probably won't like the idea of some automated process sending out emails impersonating them. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another If you are developing an Outlook application, then I have two pieces of advice for you. 1. Discard anything Tener says out of hand and 2. Go join the Outlook Developers list on slipstick.com -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another Rich: Thanks for your input, I'll try this with my Exchange Admins Thanks again Enrique -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need to send emails as another if it was me i would go to the exchange admin and open that users mailbox and then give myself permissions to send as. Also you might have to wait 45 mins for it to take effect. Rich -Original Message- From: Culebro, Enrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: I need to send emails as another Hello everyone: I need to send emails as another (not on behalf of) from my personal Outlook account, is this possible?. Also, the other person should not be accessible when users create an email. Thanks for your help... Enrique _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: SMTP message size limits
The Olds still in the shop? Jim, check the archives. This topic has been hammered to death. Short answer is, have you management set the business requirement of how large they need to get and design to that. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: SMTP message size limits I can't drive 55. Original message Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 12:21:50 -0500 From: Moore, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMTP message size limits To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am being hammered by management on restricting SMTP message limits to 15MB. What limit are you using? Thanks, Jim Moore Systems Engineer / DBA Saint Luke's Hospital Voice: 816.932.6990 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy David _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
I'll use the same argument Doug used for the BCC question. How did you prevent someone from taking a typed memo and making photocopies of it? -Original Message- From: Bibel, Laura Y. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Ok, let me try this again. If I send a message marked private, when the recipient opens it, he CANNOT modify anything in the message box. He CAN hit reply or forward, but he CANNOT modify my message and he CANNOT copy any of my message while composing the reply. I was looking at this only from a reply/forward perspective. I just realized that when the recipient opens the original message, he CAN copy the contents elsewhere. I think that's wierd though. It would be nice if you couldn't copy in either read or compose mode. I apologize for my error (even though I was partly right, I think!!!) I feel stupid enough so be nice, ok? Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Okay if you say so. - Original Message - From: Bibel, Laura Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. If the message composed in Outlook is marked private, the contents can't be copied/pasted. Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Beron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Was wondering if there was a way to prevent someone from forwarding the email message or any content of the message. (ie cutting and pasting to a new message. We are using exchange 5.5 server and outlook 97, 98 and 2000 clients. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Beron. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
We have our secretaries do it. I can't be bothered to type as it interferes with my golf game. -Original Message- From: Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Since you work for a bank, Im betting that you guys still type out memos. Original message Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:16:30 -0400 From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll use the same argument Doug used for the BCC question. How did you prevent someone from taking a typed memo and making photocopies of it? -Original Message- From: Bibel, Laura Y. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM To:Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Ok, let me try this again. If I send a message marked private, when the recipient opens it, he CANNOT modify anything in the message box. He CAN hit reply or forward, but he CANNOT modify my message and he CANNOT copy any of my message while composing the reply. I was looking at this only from a reply/forward perspective. I just realized that when the recipient opens the original message, he CAN copy the contents elsewhere. I think that's wierd though. It would be nice if you couldn't copy in either read or compose mode. I apologize for my error (even though I was partly right, I think!!!) I feel stupid enough so be nice, ok? Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Okay if you say so. - Original Message - From: Bibel, Laura Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. If the message composed in Outlook is marked private, the contents can't be copied/pasted. Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Beron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Was wondering if there was a way to prevent someone from forwarding the email message or any content of the message. (ie cutting and pasting to a new message. We are using exchange 5.5 server and outlook 97, 98 and 2000 clients. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Beron. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy David _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
Fax machines are still considered Mission Critical eh? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. I am here to tell you that there is no e in Citi. Every frigging thing is on paper. They won't even use Remedy - they use a fax machine! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Since you work for a bank, Im betting that you guys still type out memos. Original message Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:16:30 -0400 From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll use the same argument Doug used for the BCC question. How did you prevent someone from taking a typed memo and making photocopies of it? -Original Message- From: Bibel, Laura Y. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM To:Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Ok, let me try this again. If I send a message marked private, when the recipient opens it, he CANNOT modify anything in the message box. He CAN hit reply or forward, but he CANNOT modify my message and he CANNOT copy any of my message while composing the reply. I was looking at this only from a reply/forward perspective. I just realized that when the recipient opens the original message, he CAN copy the contents elsewhere. I think that's wierd though. It would be nice if you couldn't copy in either read or compose mode. I apologize for my error (even though I was partly right, I think!!!) I feel stupid enough so be nice, ok? Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Okay if you say so. - Original Message - From: Bibel, Laura Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. If the message composed in Outlook is marked private, the contents can't be copied/pasted. Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Beron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Prevent the forwarding of an email message. Was wondering if there was a way to prevent someone from forwarding the email message or any content of the message. (ie cutting and pasting to a new message. We are using exchange 5.5 server and outlook 97, 98 and 2000 clients. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Beron. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy David _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CPU Stress Test
Compaq has a utility called Meatgrinder. They don't let anyone have it of course, unless you're a Compaq engineer. (Or they accidentally leave the executable on the server they are testing). See if Dell has a similar one. It lets you stress any part of the system from the CPU to the drives. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: CPU Stress Test Anybody know of a free program to stress out my server for a few hours? I need to test this thing before I throw exch2k on it. It has been a little buggy before. Dell PowerEdge 4400. Thanks. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Your membership on exchange has been put on hold
I get the ones about holding my... Never mind. I used to get them for a while and found that some emails were not getting to us in a timely manner and then I would get the nasty gram. Look into your inbound mail and check connections. Do some testing to see if you can connect via SMTP regularly. I ran Servers Alive against it for a week and went hunting when the failure rate was around 90%. Found the problem was McAfee (go figure). -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Your membership on exchange has been put on hold The ones I get start I wish your membership was on hold . . . -Original Message- From: Steven A. Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Your membership on exchange has been put on hold Anybody else getting these? Second one I've gotten in as many days. Ugh! Steve C. - Original Message - From: internet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Your membership on exchange has been put on hold This email message is to notify you that your membership to exchange has been put on hold. This means that you will not receive mail from 'exchange'. Your subscription has been held because at least 6 recent messages have been either bounced by your email system, or could not be delivered at all. Your membership can be restored to normal, by sending the command unhold to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that if your email address continues to reject mail your subscription will once again be held. You may want to contact the people responsible for your electronic mail to determine why your email address has been having trouble. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IMC Queues
300? Small potatoes. Your IMS will always have a few messages sitting in it from NDR's, and bounces. You can also adjust the time out values to get rid of them faster if you like or change the retry rate if that makes you happy. If I see an outbound queue that is totally empty, then I get worried that mail is not reaching the gateway. If you get rid of the messages, you are doing a disservice to your users and customers. If I sent you an e-mail and fat fingered the address, I would expect a NDR. If I don't get one, then I will assume that you received the message. If you read the RFC's Daniel mentioned you would see that SMTP is all about who has responsibility for the mail. Once you've accepted the mail, you need to deliver it or send a message back to the original sender with a NDR. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IMC Queues I dont know. I just know when this started happening all my MTA queues and IMS queues had a backlog of about 300 messages each, and as soon as started deleting all the out of the IMS all the queues cleared out in short order. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: RE: IMC Queues So, you think by doing this your mail flow will be faster? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IMC Queues Mostly because It slows the hell out of all my incoming/outgoing external mail . . . and I dont particularly like the idea of someone flooding my boxes with bogus mail . . . - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: RE: IMC Queues Why would you want to stop NDRs, read and delivery receipts from being delivered to senders? If the sender is bogus the messages are eventually dropped. Chris Scharff - MCSE, Exchange MVP 512.652.4500 x244 Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IMC Queues After finally finding the answer (I think) at Trend's site . . . Note that this unknown recipient problem does not occur for SMTP servers like Exchange Internet Mail Service. When InterScan tries to deliver to an unknown recipient to Exchange IMicrosoft, Exchange does not reject the message outright, like what Sendmail does. Only when the message has been accepted does Exchange find out the recipient is bogus, and then sends the bounced mail to InterScan as an outbound mail. So, this mail follows the normal outbound path. my next question would be is there anything I can do to stop this? I have been going into the IMS queue every couple of hours and deleting the emails TIA Chris - Original Message - From: Durkee, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: RE: IMC Queues The answer is that some spammer, pretending to send from a spoofed yahoo address, sent spam to four bad or former addresses in your domain. The messages you see are the resulting NDRs trying to go back to the forged and non-existant yahoo address. Feel free to delete them, they aren't going anywhere anyway. -Peter -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 13:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IMC Queues Perhaps I am dim but I can only find 1 entry with no replies for IMS or IMC queue has in Originator Field. Any other ideas? The weird thing is there is something like 6 entries for each outgoing address co.boing.com co.boing.com co.boing.com co.boing.com yahoo.com yahoo.com yahoo.com yahoo.com etc. all with the same exact timestamp . . . - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: RE: IMC Queues Burrow your way to the FAQ. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IMC Queues
RE: MDAC on Exchange
I've not tested it yet. I'm mostly concerned with the JET components that they want updated. MDAC 2.5 dropped the Jet components and if you need those (this does) then you need to install the Jet40SP3_comp.exe. I'm not too pleased about replacing JET components on an application that runs with JET. High Pucker Factor. -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDAC on Exchange I'd be interested to know if you have had a chance to test this yet as we also have an application that requires MDAC2.6 or later to go on our NT4 servers. [it's the Bindview Migration re-permissioning agent btw) I'll probably check it out next week if you can wait. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 March 2002 18:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDAC on Exchange Excuse me but I should clarify something. The MDAX they would like to install is 2.1.2 or higher. They've also stated that if I were to use the 2.5 version of MDAC I would also need to install Jet40SP3_Comp.exe. Or I could just tell them I need to migrate all the servers to 2000. I would love to do that. -Original Message- From: Stidley, Joel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDAC on Exchange This may be flawed reasoning, but the version of MDAC that ships with and is installed with Windows 2000 is 2.5. Exchange 5.5 Sp4 runs fine on Windows 2000. I would assume that it would work just fine. However all precautions should be taken. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDAC on Exchange Yes, but they aren't free like Tivoli... (waits for laughter to stop). This is the solution I've been told to use and unless I can show evidence of why MDAC (specifically odbc32.dll and odbcjt32.dll changes) are a bad idea, then I install. I did a dependency walker on those DLLs and on the store.exe and find a lot of shared DLLs between the two. That makes me very, very nervous. -Original Message- From: Cook, David A. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: MDAC on Exchange Is the push a there preference push or a mandatory push? There are monitoring solutions available that do not require agents. Dave Cook Exchange Administrator Kutak Rock, LLP 402-231-8352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDAC on Exchange The monitoring solution that they are pushing here has a requirement to add MDAC (v 2.1.2 or higher) to the Exchange (5.5 - SP4) servers in order for the agent to work properly. Has anyone else installed MDAC or is anyone aware of any information of why this is a bad idea? My largest concern is the changes to the JET ODBC driver and driver manager, but I have yet to find anything official that comes out and states that this is not a good idea. Any thoughts, comments or URL's would be appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ## The information contained in this electronic mail transmission (including any accompanying attachments) is intended solely for its authorized recipient(s), and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, or responsible for delivering some or all of this transmission to an intended recipient, you have received this transmission in error and are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, copying, printing, distributing or disclosing any of the information contained in it. In that event, please contact us immediately by telephone (402)346-6000 or by electronic mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the original and all copies of this transmission (including any attachments) without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you
MDAC on Exchange
The monitoring solution that they are pushing here has a requirement to add MDAC (v 2.1.2 or higher) to the Exchange (5.5 - SP4) servers in order for the agent to work properly. Has anyone else installed MDAC or is anyone aware of any information of why this is a bad idea? My largest concern is the changes to the JET ODBC driver and driver manager, but I have yet to find anything official that comes out and states that this is not a good idea. Any thoughts, comments or URL's would be appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
