[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver l_b_shriver@ wrote: Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it at this time, having recently stuck his neck out quite a lot. That really sounds like a load -- Hagelin has made it clear for years that he is one of the hardest hard-liners in insisting that purity must be maintained in the domes -- I'm sure you remember his 2001 article in the Fairfield Weekly reader: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/funeral.html#beanie Gosh, I missed that one, Bob, it's a classic. I can't believe that Hagelin said the following: Finally, I discovered quite by surprise during my political campaign, that our government has been involved in some fairly shady practices, intended to undermine our strength and our community -- activities that began during the Carter administration and that continue to this day. This is another reason I feel so protective of our precious community, against divisive influences -- no matter how innocent they seem. Our strength is the foundation for future generations. If ever a major newspaper or media outlet does an expose on the TMO (and it's inevitable...the only thing that will prevent it is the utter non-interest in TM that exists in the world today), I'd love for some reporter to ask Hagelin: could you give us the evidence, proof or documentation of anything that will demonstrate these shady practises, Doctor La Rouche...I mean, Hagelin? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 8:31 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 7:33 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com wrote: MMY in the 23Aug2006 press conference at mou.org: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. Never did walk his talk. So all he ever did was intimidate people? No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver l_b_shriver@ wrote: Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it at this time, having recently stuck his neck out quite a lot. That really sounds like a load -- Hagelin has made it clear for years that he is one of the hardest hard-liners in insisting that purity must be maintained in the domes -- I'm sure you remember his 2001 article in the Fairfield Weekly reader: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/funeral.html#beanie Gosh, I missed that one, Bob, it's a classic. I can't believe that Hagelin said the following: Finally, I discovered quite by surprise during my political campaign, that our government has been involved in some fairly shady practices, intended to undermine our strength and our community -- activities that began during the Carter administration and that continue to this day. This is another reason I feel so protective of our precious community, against divisive influences -- no matter how innocent they seem. Our strength is the foundation for future generations. If ever a major newspaper or media outlet does an expose on the TMO (and it's inevitable...the only thing that will prevent it is the utter non-interest in TM that exists in the world today), I'd love for some reporter to ask Hagelin: could you give us the evidence, proof or documentation of anything that will demonstrate these shady practises, Doctor La Rouche...I mean, Hagelin? Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver l_b_shriver@ wrote: Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it at this time, having recently stuck his neck out quite a lot. That really sounds like a load -- Hagelin has made it clear for years that he is one of the hardest hard-liners in insisting that purity must be maintained in the domes -- I'm sure you remember his 2001 article in the Fairfield Weekly reader: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/funeral.html#beanie Gosh, I missed that one, Bob, it's a classic. I can't believe that Hagelin said the following: Finally, I discovered quite by surprise during my political campaign, that our government has been involved in some fairly shady practices, intended to undermine our strength and our community -- activities that began during the Carter administration and that continue to this day. This is another reason I feel so protective of our precious community, against divisive influences -- no matter how innocent they seem. Our strength is the foundation for future generations. If ever a major newspaper or media outlet does an expose on the TMO (and it's inevitable...the only thing that will prevent it is the utter non-interest in TM that exists in the world today), I'd love for some reporter to ask Hagelin: could you give us the evidence, proof or documentation of anything that will demonstrate these shady practises, Doctor La Rouche...I mean, Hagelin? ** Well, Mr. Peanut, our beloved Prez Jimmy (my sister was a faith- healer) Carter, did have a hard-on against TM and did task the intel community to get the dirt on the TMO, but given the near-total incompetence of American intel agencies (WMD was a slam-dunk in Iraq said the CIA), I'm sure that nothing harmful was ever generated by these efforts, which were undoubtedly abandoned quickly after peanut head left office (Reagan and his VP Bush were both friendly to the Beach Boys (Reagan lived next door to the Beach Boys in Bel Air, a rich section of LA), two of who were TM teachers, which makes it unlikely they shared Carter's antipathy). But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. Hagelin is clever in those parts of his brain which deal with math and physics, but like an autistic savant, lacks the general intelligence to keep him from doing stupid things like appearing in a movie produced by Ramtha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. It would probably be interesting to know *why* Hagelin asserted there were dirty government dealings involving TM, before dismissing his claims out of hand. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton2006a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...that I AM NOT AFRAID OF???!!! Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...answer this Ah, a perfect opportunity to re-emerge after my shorter- than-expected vacation. It's been fascinating being away from the fray, traveling about and being around normal people most of the time. :-) On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. One of the spiritual teachers I worked with used to say, Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. For the record, that's all I'm doing...trying to figure things out. These raps are not my idea of What Is True, and I'm not trying to sell the ideas in them to anyone or convince anyone that they're true or right. I post the comments as what they are, Just My Opinion. I will not respond to any comments others make about them, and to be honest can't even promise to read the followups, if there are any. Unlike many of the people here, I don't really feel any need to defend my opinions as anything other than what they are -- just my opinions, made at a particular point in time, possibly changing at another point in time. If others want to comment on them, that's their business. The posts themselves are the only comments I have to offer. Here's the first of them: Reading some of the FFL posts from the last month, pretty much at random, I came across a few (both the opinions of FFL regulars and quotes from others in the TMO) that suggest to me that TM has degenerated into a path in which the few lingering True Believers are acting out of a profound fear of CC. No, not Cosmic Consciousness. I'm talking about Cosmic Cooties. Over the decades, the TM faithful have been told, by Maharishi directly and by those he trained to parrot his words, that certain things in life contain Cosmic Cooties, and that to come in contact with these things is to chance getting the cooties on yourself. To doubt the infallible Truth of the TM dogma is definitely courting cooties. There can be no question of this -- all you have to do is watch and see what happens to those in the TMO who give expression to their doubts. They are whisked out of sight and quarantined as quickly as a leper would have been chased out of a medieval village. Doubt cooties are *contagious*, after all, and you can't allow those who have them to mingle among the uninfected. The other thing that definitely is infected with these highly contagious cooties is being open to knowledge from or representatives of other spiritual traditions. The attitude could be emblazoned on a T-shirt: SEE A SAINT, GET COOTIES! Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. I believe that this is a really sad phenomenon. Not just for the organization that espouses it, but for the indi- vidual seekers who buy into this dogma of fear as Truth. What it creates in them is a path based on self hatred, because *they* have doubts, and cannot admit them. And *they* are still curious about spiritual experience in other traditions, and they cannot admit that, either. The True Believers who have been trained to be terrified of Cosmic Cooties have also been trained to LIE -- not only to the organization they belong to (which is sad in itself), but to *themselves*, which is heartbreaking. *EVERYONE* who has ever pursued a spiritual path has had doubts. Mature spiritual traditions accept this, and accept that these doubts are a natural and a positive aspect of the spiritual process. They have mechanisms in place so that seekers within their traditions can safely express their doubts. If the doubts grow strong enough, these traditions have no problem with wishing the seeker well on his or her Way as they take a leave of absence to explore them, and then they are always willing to welcome the doubter back into the fold when they have come to some sense of balance about them. This strikes me as sound spiritual policy, one that has its roots in a legitimate desire that the students really
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american perspective. No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose that iscoincidence? Carter lived his politics by his fundie arrogant beliefs. Period. OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev on siddhis
'By means of aushhadhiyoM (herbs, drugs, medicines) various kinds of sidhhis are come to be seen. When I was staying in the jungles, on several occasions Kola and Bhilla (wild tribals) came and informed me of the attributes of aushhadhiyoM. One time a Bhil brought one such which would make a tiger senseless who saw only a little of it from afar. By means of aushhadhiyoM a human being can live several hundred years. By means of aushhadhiyoM many siddhis can come. So there are also aushhadhiyaa.N that give the strength to fly for the one who puts it in the mouth.' ['Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita' kaNa 35 of 108 (extract)] More: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
(snip) Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? I know someone who worked for the Carter campaign, and he said that he felt that Jimmie, was a really spiritual guy. I always felt he was and is. I was at his library in Plains, Georgia, and it was built in the old school house where he went to high school; The whole thing is dedicated to one of his teachers- a woman, whom he says really inspired him. It felt very peaceful there... Also, Carter was a peacemaker, during his Presidency and after. I think they are blaming him now, for letting Kohmaini take over Iran, back then; and the whole hostage thing; and the whole thing that put Reagan in the WH. Hell, Carter, was even going to leagalize marijuana...can you imagine? R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 8:31 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 7:33 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com wrote: MMY in the 23Aug2006 press conference at mou.org: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. Never did walk his talk. So all he ever did was intimidate people? No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? My experience, 'back in the day', when Maharishi used to visit Iowa; He brought the love with him; the atmosphere would change when he was present. He would rejuvinate the enviornment, and egos would suddenly disappear; at least for a time. Then he would leave, for a while, and the atmosphere would go back to the way it was; The return, and have the same effect. Then when he stopped coming to Iowa, all of the 'egos' took over; Money, business, you know all the worldly stuff... And the longer he's been away, the more he became, just kind of a symbol of enlightenment, a picture, or a building or a 'person in charge'. So, it is a mixed bag, and always has and will be. Everyone's on their own level of consciousness... But, when Maharishi was there... I guess he's kind of hard to replace, eh? R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Big snip My partner and I have been noticing among other things how the quality of our dreams has changed since the course began. I also notice the effect of the course during my meditation. Just a livelier time, all around. I have noticed this change in the quality of dreams also. It's really been fascinating to explore another, much deeper level of the dreaming mind. I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. OK, the msot devout and dedicated-to-a-fault fundamentalist/evangelical Christian President we've ever had (unlike Bush, who is simply arrogant and unable to reassess his own behavior). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton2006a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Please! Humans with boards tied to their feet do it! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american perspective. No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose that iscoincidence? Guess that's why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, huh? In fact, Carter is widely respected outside the U.S., probably more so than *in* the U.S. Carter lived his politics by his fundie arrogant beliefs. Period. From Wikipedia: As President his major initiatives included the consolidation of numerous governmental agencies into the newly formed Department of Energy, a cabinet level department. He enacted strong environmental legislation; deregulated the trucking, airline, rail, finance, communications, and oil industries; bolstered the social security system; and appointed record numbers of women and minorities to significant government and judicial posts. In foreign affairs, Carter's major initiatives included the Camp David Accords, the Panama Canal Treaties, the creation of full diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China, and the negotiation of the SALT II Treaty. In addition, he championed human rights throughout the world and used human rights as the center of his administration's foreign policy After [losing to Ronald Reagan in] 1980, Carter assumed the role of an elder statesman and international mediator, using his prestige as a former president to further many causes. He founded the Carter Center as a forum for issues related to democracy and human rights. He has also traveled extensively to monitor elections, conduct peace negotiations, and establish relief efforts. In 2002, Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development. Carter has continued his decades-long active involvement with the charity Habitat for Humanity, which builds houses for the needy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. Last night I dreamt that I was working out the drum part for three Lithuainian girls dressed in native costumes singing a Christian hymn in one of those unusual harmonies. My wife was dreaming that a brown snake with a chipped fang was trying to bite her. And your dream was.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. OK, the msot devout and dedicated-to-a-fault fundamentalist/evangelical Christian President we've ever had (unlike Bush, who is simply arrogant and unable to reassess his own behavior). No argument with this! No kidding, when people complain about fundie Christians all being fanatics and intolerant and so on, Carter's the counterexample (not the only one, but the most prominent). It isn't fundamentalism per se that's the problem, it's the individual fundamentalist. (And it's no accident that Carter is a Democrat!) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...that I AM NOT AFRAID OF???!!! Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...answer this Ah, a perfect opportunity to re-emerge after my shorter- than-expected vacation. It's been fascinating being away from the fray, traveling about and being around normal people most of the time. :-) On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. One of the spiritual teachers I worked with used to say, Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. Big Snip COOTIES RULE. Doubt and curiosity are the cornerstones of a successful spiritual practice. Hate them and you end up hating yourself, and spirituality itself. Man, must have been a GOOD vacation. (Good clear info, smooth transistions in emotional theme, and acronyms - FOCos, LOL!) Good to see you back. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american perspective. No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose that iscoincidence? Guess that's why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, huh? In fact, Carter is widely respected outside the U.S., probably more so than *in* the U.S. Not that he doesn't have his faults and blind spots. But just for example, he was the first U.S. president to speak out in support of gay rights; he is an ardent conservationist and supporter of the rights of women and minorities. He has been recognized internationally, via many awards and honors, as a peacemaker and human rights advocate. He's also a very strong supporter of the separation of church and state. Plus which, he has written an entire book (Our Endangered Values) condemning the socially conservative agenda of today's fundamentalist Christians. In an interview with Mother Jones magazine (hardly a fundie rag) about the book, he said of this agenda: The danger comes when those kinds of principles are applied on the international scene. That brought about a whole gamut of things. One, obviously, is the unprecedented preemptive war that President Bush has declared to be a policy of our country. Another is the total abandonment, and often the derogation, of every nuclear-arms agreement that has been negotiated by previous presidents, beginning in the time of Dwight Eisenhower. At home, it brought about the deterioration of our commitment to environmental quality. Another [effect] is the enormous preference that has been given in tax laws recently to the extremely rich at the expense of working-class and poorer people. Then there's the implied melding of science and religion, where even the president himself has expressed the opinion that religious beliefs should be taught in scientific classrooms. That's unprecedented. And there is a unique and special emphasiswhich is a recent development toowithin the religious community, an obsession with the condemnation of homosexuality. Now, in the bible homosexuality is condemned, but along with divorce and greed and callousness toward poor people. So its elevation to a highest priority among some religious groups has been very disturbing to me. http://tinyurl.com/gu2k7 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. The impression I have from the reports here is that people who have seen other saints *are* allowed to participate in the course if they sign a statement vowing never to do so again. Not good, obviously, but at least the TMO seems to believe in the possibility of redemption. snip I suggest all of this as a way to help the more balanced posters here feel more compassion for some of the more strident voices among them. The angrier these voices get, the more they demonize others who think for themselves and are honest about their doubts and their extracurricular interests, the more angry they really are at themselves. The more they demonize these cootie-infested individuals, the more they internally demonize themselves. Funny, I've seen very little in the way of demonizing of those with extracurricular interests here lately. In fact, most of the demonizing seems to be going in the other direction (as in this post of Barry's). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. They government is huge and internal communications are sloppy. It is not unlikely that one branch is giving money while another is hassling the movement. When I was teaching in DC soon after Jonestown, Im quite sure our phones were tapped. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. Neat dream. What aspect of yourself would you say was currently in the soup, and have you been concerned about it? Seems like the dream is telling you not to be. (Not asking for personal revelations, just suggesting questions you might ask yourself about the dream.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. on 8/25/06 12:56 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 8:31 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 7:33 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com wrote: MMY in the 23Aug2006 press conference at mou.org: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. Never did walk his talk. So all he ever did was intimidate people? No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? Theyre not all dysfunctional. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs. on 8/25/06 2:23 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton2006a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Lets see a film on YouTube or someplace. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at matrixmonitor@ wrote:--- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton20 06a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Please! Humans with boards tied to their feet do it! These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. Last night I dreamt that I was working out the drum part for three Lithuainian girls dressed in native costumes singing a Christian hymn in one of those unusual harmonies. My wife was dreaming that a brown snake with a chipped fang was trying to bite her. And your dream was.. I dreamt I was driving someplace with my partner up a winding road in the snow, with pine trees lining the road, only it was in a '67 dodge dart station wagon I owned years ago. I've been on that road before, as I tend to revisit places in my dreams. The next thing I knew I was out of the car, sledding down the road on a piece of foam, until I made my way up a ravine between a house and a bush. A dog barked, and I barked back, which woke me up. And your dream was... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
Turquoise welcome back ... Somebody high-ranking in the TMO asked me some time back, whether I would like him to act on my behalf, to get myself back in favour. I asked why. He seemed puzzled at my question, but hesitantly mumbled something about 'getting the knowledge that Maharishi is giving out' (sic). Well, I was left puzzled, and am still puzzled. I thought that, according the TM dictum, all you needed to do was to learn TM, which I had, and all else will be added unto you, which to some extent it has. What would I need to do cosying up to someone who would sweettalk me into an organisation that has black lists, and doesn't even feel open enough to reprint the satsangs of its 'guiding light' - Guru Dev? Is that cos Guru Dev is competition too --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...that I AM NOT AFRAID OF???!!! Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...answer this Ah, a perfect opportunity to re-emerge after my shorter- than-expected vacation. It's been fascinating being away from the fray, traveling about and being around normal people most of the time. :-) On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. One of the spiritual teachers I worked with used to say, Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. For the record, that's all I'm doing...trying to figure things out. These raps are not my idea of What Is True, and I'm not trying to sell the ideas in them to anyone or convince anyone that they're true or right. I post the comments as what they are, Just My Opinion. I will not respond to any comments others make about them, and to be honest can't even promise to read the followups, if there are any. Unlike many of the people here, I don't really feel any need to defend my opinions as anything other than what they are -- just my opinions, made at a particular point in time, possibly changing at another point in time. If others want to comment on them, that's their business. The posts themselves are the only comments I have to offer. Here's the first of them: Reading some of the FFL posts from the last month, pretty much at random, I came across a few (both the opinions of FFL regulars and quotes from others in the TMO) that suggest to me that TM has degenerated into a path in which the few lingering True Believers are acting out of a profound fear of CC. No, not Cosmic Consciousness. I'm talking about Cosmic Cooties. Over the decades, the TM faithful have been told, by Maharishi directly and by those he trained to parrot his words, that certain things in life contain Cosmic Cooties, and that to come in contact with these things is to chance getting the cooties on yourself. To doubt the infallible Truth of the TM dogma is definitely courting cooties. There can be no question of this -- all you have to do is watch and see what happens to those in the TMO who give expression to their doubts. They are whisked out of sight and quarantined as quickly as a leper would have been chased out of a medieval village. Doubt cooties are *contagious*, after all, and you can't allow those who have them to mingle among the uninfected. The other thing that definitely is infected with these highly contagious cooties is being open to knowledge from or representatives of other spiritual traditions. The attitude could be emblazoned on a T-shirt: SEE A SAINT, GET COOTIES! Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. I believe that this is a really sad phenomenon. Not just for the organization that espouses it, but for the indi- vidual seekers who buy into this dogma of fear as Truth. What it creates in them is a path based on self hatred, because *they* have doubts, and cannot admit them. And *they* are still curious about spiritual experience in other traditions, and they cannot admit that, either. The True
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 2:23 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at matrixmonitor@ wrote:-- - http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton20 06a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Let¹s see a film on YouTube or someplace. I was thinking the same thing. Nablus or anyone, do you know of a film of these things, accessible on line? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...that I AM NOT AFRAID OF???!!! Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...answer this Ah, a perfect opportunity to re-emerge after my shorter- than-expected vacation. It's been fascinating being away from the fray, traveling about and being around normal people most of the time. :-) On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. One of the spiritual teachers I worked with used to say, Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. For the record, that's all I'm doing...trying to figure things out. These raps are not my idea of What Is True, and I'm not trying to sell the ideas in them to anyone or convince anyone that they're true or right. I post the comments as what they are, Just My Opinion. I will not respond to any comments others make about them, and to be honest can't even promise to read the followups, if there are any. Unlike many of the people here, I don't really feel any need to defend my opinions as anything other than what they are -- just my opinions, made at a particular point in time, possibly changing at another point in time. If others want to comment on them, that's their business. The posts themselves are the only comments I have to offer. Here's the first of them: Reading some of the FFL posts from the last month, pretty much at random, I came across a few (both the opinions of FFL regulars and quotes from others in the TMO) that suggest to me that TM has degenerated into a path in which the few lingering True Believers are acting out of a profound fear of CC. No, not Cosmic Consciousness. I'm talking about Cosmic Cooties. Over the decades, the TM faithful have been told, by Maharishi directly and by those he trained to parrot his words, that certain things in life contain Cosmic Cooties, and that to come in contact with these things is to chance getting the cooties on yourself. To doubt the infallible Truth of the TM dogma is definitely courting cooties. There can be no question of this -- all you have to do is watch and see what happens to those in the TMO who give expression to their doubts. They are whisked out of sight and quarantined as quickly as a leper would have been chased out of a medieval village. Doubt cooties are *contagious*, after all, and you can't allow those who have them to mingle among the uninfected. The other thing that definitely is infected with these highly contagious cooties is being open to knowledge from or representatives of other spiritual traditions. The attitude could be emblazoned on a T-shirt: SEE A SAINT, GET COOTIES! Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. I believe that this is a really sad phenomenon. Not just for the organization that espouses it, but for the indi- vidual seekers who buy into this dogma of fear as Truth. What it creates in them is a path based on self hatred, because *they* have doubts, and cannot admit them. And *they* are still curious about spiritual experience in other traditions, and they cannot admit that, either. The True Believers who have been trained to be terrified of Cosmic Cooties have also been trained to LIE -- not only to the organization they belong to (which is sad in itself), but to *themselves*, which is heartbreaking. *EVERYONE* who has ever pursued a spiritual path has had doubts. Mature spiritual traditions accept this, and accept that these doubts are a natural and a positive aspect of the spiritual process. They have mechanisms in place so that seekers within their traditions can safely express their doubts. If the doubts grow strong enough, these traditions have no problem with wishing the seeker well on his or her Way as they take a leave of absence to explore them, and then they are always willing to welcome the doubter back into the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 5:40 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? I know someone who worked for the Carter campaign, and he said that he felt that Jimmie, was a really spiritual guy. I always felt he was and is. I was at his library in Plains, Georgia, and it was built in the old school house where he went to high school; The whole thing is dedicated to one of his teachers- a woman, whom he says really inspired him. It felt very peaceful there... Also, Carter was a peacemaker, during his Presidency and after. I think they are blaming him now, for letting Kohmaini take over Iran, back then; and the whole hostage thing; and the whole thing that put Reagan in the WH. Hell, Carter, was even going to leagalize marijuana...can you imagine? R.G. I was told by Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, who had a close friend in Carter's inner circle, that he vowed privately while campaigning that if elected, he would do everything in his power to thwart the TMO. Margaret was married to the playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker) and was a psychiatrist who often spoke at TM conferences in the 70's. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. OK, the msot devout and dedicated-to-a-fault fundamentalist/evangelical Christian President we've ever had (unlike Bush, who is simply arrogant and unable to reassess his own behavior). No argument with this! No kidding, when people complain about fundie Christians all being fanatics and intolerant and so on, Carter's the counterexample (not the only one, but the most prominent). It isn't fundamentalism per se that's the problem, it's the individual fundamentalist. (And it's no accident that Carter is a Democrat!) I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
Pete, Don't be fooled by those Lithuainian's good-girls-singing-hymns act. In my dream those traditional outfits came off after one blender drink. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. Last night I dreamt that I was working out the drum part for three Lithuainian girls dressed in native costumes singing a Christian hymn in one of those unusual harmonies. My wife was dreaming that a brown snake with a chipped fang was trying to bite her. And your dream was.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path Good to have you back. Pace yourself so you dont get burned out. on 8/25/06 2:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...that I AM NOT AFRAID OF???!!! Why is john Hagelin a coward??? What is he afraid of??? ...answer this Ah, a perfect opportunity to re-emerge after my shorter- than-expected vacation. It's been fascinating being away from the fray, traveling about and being around normal people most of the time. :-) On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. One of the spiritual teachers I worked with used to say, Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. For the record, that's all I'm doing...trying to figure things out. These raps are not my idea of What Is True, and I'm not trying to sell the ideas in them to anyone or convince anyone that they're true or right. I post the comments as what they are, Just My Opinion. I will not respond to any comments others make about them, and to be honest can't even promise to read the followups, if there are any. Unlike many of the people here, I don't really feel any need to defend my opinions as anything other than what they are -- just my opinions, made at a particular point in time, possibly changing at another point in time. If others want to comment on them, that's their business. The posts themselves are the only comments I have to offer. Here's the first of them: Reading some of the FFL posts from the last month, pretty much at random, I came across a few (both the opinions of FFL regulars and quotes from others in the TMO) that suggest to me that TM has degenerated into a path in which the few lingering True Believers are acting out of a profound fear of CC. No, not Cosmic Consciousness. I'm talking about Cosmic Cooties. Over the decades, the TM faithful have been told, by Maharishi directly and by those he trained to parrot his words, that certain things in life contain Cosmic Cooties, and that to come in contact with these things is to chance getting the cooties on yourself. To doubt the infallible Truth of the TM dogma is definitely courting cooties. There can be no question of this -- all you have to do is watch and see what happens to those in the TMO who give _expression_ to their doubts. They are whisked out of sight and quarantined as quickly as a leper would have been chased out of a medieval village. Doubt cooties are *contagious*, after all, and you can't allow those who have them to mingle among the uninfected. The other thing that definitely is infected with these highly contagious cooties is being open to knowledge from or representatives of other spiritual traditions. The attitude could be emblazoned on a T-shirt: SEE A SAINT, GET COOTIES! Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. I believe that this is a really sad phenomenon. Not just for the organization that espouses it, but for the indi- vidual seekers who buy into this dogma of fear as Truth. What it creates in them is a path based on self hatred, because *they* have doubts, and cannot admit them. And *they* are still curious about spiritual experience in other traditions, and they cannot admit that, either. The True Believers who have been trained to be terrified of Cosmic Cooties have also been trained to LIE -- not only to the organization they belong to (which is sad in itself), but to *themselves*, which is heartbreaking. *EVERYONE* who has ever pursued a spiritual path has had doubts. Mature spiritual traditions accept this, and accept that these doubts are a natural and a positive aspect of the spiritual process. They have mechanisms in place so that seekers within their traditions can safely express their doubts. If the doubts grow strong enough, these traditions have no problem with wishing the seeker well on his or her Way as they take a leave of absence to explore them, and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. They government is huge and internal communications are sloppy. It is not unlikely that one branch is giving money while another is hassling the movement. When I was teaching in DC soon after Jonestown, I¹m quite sure our phones were tapped. These days, everyone's phones are tapped. Seriously, if you have phone calls from overseas, you can be sure of this. If you have friends from foreign countries, likewise. If you have Japanese Buddhist friends, ditto. Om Shiren Kyo gets confused with Nicheren Kyo all the time, especially since the Japanese government doesn't like the political activism of the latter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. on 8/25/06 5:46 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? My experience, 'back in the day', when Maharishi used to visit Iowa; He brought the love with him; the atmosphere would change when he was present. He would rejuvinate the enviornment, and egos would suddenly disappear; at least for a time. Then he would leave, for a while, and the atmosphere would go back to the way it was; Hes only been here 2 or 3 times, for a few days each time. I was in Switzerland with him for 2 1/2 years, plus various courses. The atmosphere was often sublime, and there were plenty of wonderful experiences. He usually did radiate lots of love in my experience. But still, people were often kept in line with fear and intimidation. People were sent home abruptly if they were suspected of doing something of which Maharishi disapproved. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 12:56 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 8:31 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 7:33 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com wrote: MMY in the 23Aug2006 press conference at mou.org: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. Never did walk his talk. So all he ever did was intimidate people? No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? They¹re not all dysfunctional. What size organization are we talking about? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. OK, the msot devout and dedicated-to-a-fault fundamentalist/evangelical Christian President we've ever had (unlike Bush, who is simply arrogant and unable to reassess his own behavior). No argument with this! No kidding, when people complain about fundie Christians all being fanatics and intolerant and so on, Carter's the counterexample (not the only one, but the most prominent). It isn't fundamentalism per se that's the problem, it's the individual fundamentalist. (And it's no accident that Carter is a Democrat!) I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. Well, he's not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. And what exactly do you believe he's intolerant *of*? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. OK, the msot devout and dedicated-to-a-fault fundamentalist/evangelical Christian President we've ever had (unlike Bush, who is simply arrogant and unable to reassess his own behavior). No argument with this! No kidding, when people complain about fundie Christians all being fanatics and intolerant and so on, Carter's the counterexample (not the only one, but the most prominent). It isn't fundamentalism per se that's the problem, it's the individual fundamentalist. (And it's no accident that Carter is a Democrat!) I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. Well, he's not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. And what exactly do you believe he's intolerant *of*? TM, alcohol in the White House, anything that offends his religious sensibilities that he has direct control of. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Carter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american perspective. No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose that iscoincidence? Guess that's why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, huh? In fact, Carter is widely respected outside the U.S., probably more so than *in* the U.S. Not that he doesn't have his faults and blind spots. But just for example, he was the first U.S. president to speak out in support of gay rights; he is an ardent conservationist and supporter of the rights of women and minorities. He has been recognized internationally, via many awards and honors, as a peacemaker and human rights advocate. He's also a very strong supporter of the separation of church and state. Plus which, he has written an entire book (Our Endangered Values) condemning the socially conservative agenda of today's fundamentalist Christians. Ok, so as an old man he has changed, just like Billie Graham now accepts other religions as legitimate. I accept Carter is a nice guy, but religion poisons politics with its arrogance - and I have no tolerance for it in politics. I think that every president should have to declare out loud on being inaugerated: I believe all people are equal, and that no religion or non- religion is superior to another, and I do not hold my own religion as superior, but a means to express my feelings to God Or something like that. At the time of his inauguration GW Bush would have choked on those words, because he is a fundamentalist, and I am not sure Carter would have been able to say it at his innaguration either In an interview with Mother Jones magazine (hardly a fundie rag) about the book, he said of this agenda: The danger comes when those kinds of principles are applied on the international scene. That brought about a whole gamut of things. One, obviously, is the unprecedented preemptive war that President Bush has declared to be a policy of our country. Another is the total abandonment, and often the derogation, of every nuclear-arms agreement that has been negotiated by previous presidents, beginning in the time of Dwight Eisenhower. At home, it brought about the deterioration of our commitment to environmental quality. Another [effect] is the enormous preference that has been given in tax laws recently to the extremely rich at the expense of working-class and poorer people. Then there's the implied melding of science and religion, where even the president himself has expressed the opinion that religious beliefs should be taught in scientific classrooms. That's unprecedented. And there is a unique and special emphasiswhich is a recent development toowithin the religious community, an obsession with the condemnation of homosexuality. Now, in the bible homosexuality is condemned, but along with divorce and greed and callousness toward poor people. So its elevation to a highest priority among some religious groups has been very disturbing to me. http://tinyurl.com/gu2k7 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] ANother possible medical use of TM?
In addition to what seems like spectacular results with kids with AD/HD, here's a fun little medline search: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=searchDB=pubmed search terms: alzheimer's eeg coherence Things that make you go whoa... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Competition...
Move over Davd Lynch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbYPQEAkSM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. Well, he's not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. And what exactly do you believe he's intolerant *of*? TM, alcohol in the White House, anything that offends his religious sensibilities that he has direct control of. Like most of us, I would imagine. He's also intolerant of a lot of things he has no direct control of, such as racial, religious, and gender discrimination, discrimination against gays and lesbians, human rights violations of all kinds, blurring the line between church and state, not taking care of the poor, etc., etc. Frankly, I don't mind a bit of intolerance on his part about things I'm tolerant of, as long as he's intolerant about the kinds of things I listed above. I'd be really interested to hear why he was so intolerant of TM. My *guess* is that he was convinced MMY was pushing Hinduism in disguise, and that what he didn't like was the perceived deception. If MMY had openly promoted Hinduism, I doubt he'd have objected. Certainly there were plenty of others promoting it that didn't draw his wrath. As I said, he does have his blind spots, and this was one of the worse ones. But he got such high marks in so many other areas, I'm willing to forgive him for it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a fanatic by any stretch of the imagination. To the contrary, he embodies the very best of Christian fundamentalism and lives his faith in a way few on this forum could claim to emulate. That's not to say he didn't have serious problems with TM, but it wasn't a function of fanticism. Carter's most recent book completely disses the growth of fanatical evangelical christians in the country and their influence in the Bush admin - he argues that christians should instead focus on attempting to emulate the life the jesus in their personal lives. As attorney general of Ark, Clinton went along with the tm prison program that was being developed but then withdrew that support when he became governor due to pressure from the fundies - that's just the political reality in the south; has nothing to do with fanaticism. Carter may not have been a fan of new agey programs in the 70s due to personal background and political pressures, but that's very different from saying he ordered the CIA to illegally focus on infiltrating and destroying a then popular domestic organization. That goes against both his religious and political leanings. No doubt someone in the govt was keeping tabs on the tmo, but the tmo peaked in 75 and went into sharp decline and certainly wouldn't have warrented special illegal inflitration by the late 70s. Remember the Church committee findings about illegal domestic spying by the CIA came out sometime in the mid--70s and the agency was particularly careful to stay clean then. If anything the CIA fantasies of the tmo that came out in the late 70s is probably its attempt to explain to itself the sharp decline in initiations that was occuring - its belief system couldn't allow for rational internal reasons so it had to puff itself up with being worthy of special attention by the CIA. Mild form of paranoid delusion. Or maybe Roy Bachmeyer really was a James Bond??? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american perspective. No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose that iscoincidence? Guess that's why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, huh? In fact, Carter is widely respected outside the U.S., probably more so than *in* the U.S. Not that he doesn't have his faults and blind spots. But just for example, he was the first U.S. president to speak out in support of gay rights; he is an ardent conservationist and supporter of the rights of women and minorities. He has been recognized internationally, via many awards and honors, as a peacemaker and human rights advocate. He's also a very strong supporter of the separation of church and state. Plus which, he has written an entire book (Our Endangered Values) condemning the socially conservative agenda of today's fundamentalist Christians. Ok, so as an old man he has changed, Not really, he's been pretty consistent throughout his public career. just like Billie Graham now accepts other religions as legitimate. I accept Carter is a nice guy, but religion poisons politics with its arrogance - and I have no tolerance for it in politics. *But he doesn't either*--never did. I think that every president should have to declare out loud on being inaugerated: I believe all people are equal, and that no religion or non- religion is superior to another, and I do not hold my own religion as superior, but a means to express my feelings to God Or something like that. At the time of his inauguration GW Bush would have choked on those words, because he is a fundamentalist, and I am not sure Carter would have been able to say it at his innaguration either Well, you can't expect *any* devout Christian, fundamentalist or otherwise, to say they don't hold their religion as superior. There are very few devout religionists of any flavor who could say that. If they didn't believe their religion was superior, they wouldn't follow it. The issue is what they *do* about their belief that the religion they follow is superior. And if you compare Bush and Carter on that score, Carter's actions were for the most part fully consistent with the very best Christian principles. whereas Bush's actions have for the most part *not* been consistent with them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. on 8/25/06 9:44 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY in the 23Aug2006 press conference at mou.org: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order. Never did walk his talk. So all he ever did was intimidate people? No, but he structured an atmosphere in which there was plenty of intimidation and fear, as well as good stuff. Mixed bag. Unlike other spiritual organizations, eh? Theyre not all dysfunctional. What size organization are we talking about? Size doesnt matter. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Carter may not have been a fan of new agey programs in the 70s due to personal background and political pressures, but that's very different from saying he ordered the CIA to illegally focus on infiltrating and destroying a then popular domestic organization. That goes against both his religious and political leanings. No doubt. But there does seem to be pretty clear evidence he had a special animus against TM. I suggested in another post that that may have been because he thought MMY was surreptitiously trying to convert folks to Hinduism, and it was the perceived *deception* that angered Carter. Speculating freely: As far as the CIA is concerned, it wouldn't surprise me if the CIA *did* infiltrate briefly after the TM-Sidhis came out, not to destroy the organization but to make sure we hadn't actually developed any unusual abilities (there were elements in the CIA that were very heavily into the paranormal), and if we had, to keep the our enemies from getting hold of them. I suspect it would have been the invisibility claim that would have most intrigued them because of its potential usefulness in intelligence operations. It's also not impossible, it seems to me, that the CIA thought the TMO might itself be a cover for a spying operation. This was at the height of the cold war, after all, and if *anybody* was paranoid, it was the CIA. At any rate, if either or both of these were the case, it's not hard to see how the CIA presence would have been connected in TMers' imaginations with Carter's known dislike of the TMO and understood to be a function of an attempt on his part to destroy it, when it was actually just the CIA doing its cold war thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver l_b_shriver@ wrote: Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it at this time, having recently stuck his neck out quite a lot. That really sounds like a load -- Hagelin has made it clear for years that he is one of the hardest hard-liners in insisting that purity must be maintained in the domes -- I'm sure you remember his 2001 article in the Fairfield Weekly reader: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/funeral.html#beanie Gosh, I missed that one, Bob, it's a classic. I can't believe that Hagelin said the following: Finally, I discovered quite by surprise during my political campaign, that our government has been involved in some fairly shady practices, intended to undermine our strength and our community - - activities that began during the Carter administration and that continue to this day. This is another reason I feel so protective of our precious community, against divisive influences -- no matter how innocent they seem. Our strength is the foundation for future generations. If ever a major newspaper or media outlet does an expose on the TMO (and it's inevitable...the only thing that will prevent it is the utter non-interest in TM that exists in the world today), I'd love for some reporter to ask Hagelin: could you give us the evidence, proof or documentation of anything that will demonstrate these shady practises, Doctor La Rouche...I mean, Hagelin? Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? I am suggesting that there is ZERO evidence or documentation that the largest new age organization of the 70's was the target of ANY U.S. president. I further suggest that those that imply such a thing are themselves fanatics. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at matrixmonitor@ wrote:--- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton20 06a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Please! Humans with boards tied to their feet do it! These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. According to Creme they are made by ships from Mars. They are giving incredible knowledge in these shapes to prepare mankind for Maitreya's reappearance. Note that they are getting more and more refined and are manifested more often every year. http://www.shareintl.org To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/25/06 2:23 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at matrixmonitor@ wrote:- - - http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton20 06a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Let¹s see a film on YouTube or someplace. I was thinking the same thing. Nablus or anyone, do you know of a film of these things, accessible on line? I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. Well, he's not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. And what exactly do you believe he's intolerant *of*? TM, alcohol in the White House, anything that offends his religious sensibilities that he has direct control of. Like most of us, I would imagine. He's also intolerant of a lot of things he has no direct control of, such as racial, religious, and gender discrimination, discrimination against gays and lesbians, human rights violations of all kinds, blurring the line between church and state, not taking care of the poor, etc., etc. Frankly, I don't mind a bit of intolerance on his part about things I'm tolerant of, as long as he's intolerant about the kinds of things I listed above. I'd be really interested to hear why he was so intolerant of TM. My *guess* is that he was convinced MMY was pushing Hinduism in disguise, and that what he didn't like was the perceived deception. If MMY had openly promoted Hinduism, I doubt he'd have objected. Certainly there were plenty of others promoting it that didn't draw his wrath. As I said, he does have his blind spots, and this was one of the worse ones. But he got such high marks in so many other areas, I'm willing to forgive him for it. That peanutfellow sent armed men into Sonnenberg. But I'll forgive him. He didn't accomplish what he tried anyway; to kill Maharishi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 5:40 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had? I know someone who worked for the Carter campaign, and he said that he felt that Jimmie, was a really spiritual guy. I always felt he was and is. I was at his library in Plains, Georgia, and it was built in the old school house where he went to high school; The whole thing is dedicated to one of his teachers- a woman, whom he says really inspired him. It felt very peaceful there... Also, Carter was a peacemaker, during his Presidency and after. I think they are blaming him now, for letting Kohmaini take over Iran, back then; and the whole hostage thing; and the whole thing that put Reagan in the WH. Hell, Carter, was even going to leagalize marijuana...can you imagine? R.G. I was told by Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, who had a close friend in Carter's inner circle, that he vowed privately while campaigning that if elected, he would do everything in his power to thwart the TMO. Interesting comment...and it's a perfect example of how an alleged comment gets all blown out of proportion by folks like Hagelin who then make it into some sort of sinister thing, such as the quote that Brigante provided us. Again, where's the proof that anything was actually done? The fact is, Carter wouldn't have had to do anything. If I were Carter (who came into power in January 1977) and I was actually intent upon entering office of using everything in my power to thwart the TMO, I would not have done anything. Why? Because a few short months later, MMY and the TMO came out with the flying thing publicly. All Carter would have had to say to himself is: these nutcases just self-destructed...now I don't have to do anything from my side. And he would have been right. Margaret was married to the playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker) and was a psychiatrist who often spoke at TM conferences in the 70's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Well, Mr. Peanut, our beloved Prez Jimmy (my sister was a faith- healer) Carter, did have a hard-on against TM and did task the intel community to get the dirt on the TMO, Two things come to mind when I read this: 1) (and I'm repeating myself here) Where is the proof that he actually did this...freedom of information act? Please show me something other than repeating rumour... 2) Even if Carter or some other U.S. president or even some underling in the U.S. government did observe and gather info on the TMO, what's wrong with that? As long as the info-gathering was done legally, is there anything implicitly wrong with gathering info on an organisation that claims to be able to solve all the problems of mankind and can show you how to levitate? Perhaps the argument can be made that a U.S. president that DIDN'T investigate such claims weren't doing their job properly. There's two issues here: snooping on the TMO and whether there was impropriety in the snooping if indeed snooping took place. I haven't seen evidence of either the former or the latter. but given the near-total incompetence of American intel agencies (WMD was a slam-dunk in Iraq said the CIA), I'm sure that nothing harmful was ever generated by these efforts, which were undoubtedly abandoned quickly after peanut head left office (Reagan and his VP Bush were both friendly to the Beach Boys (Reagan lived next door to the Beach Boys in Bel Air, a rich section of LA), two of who were TM teachers, which makes it unlikely they shared Carter's antipathy). But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. Hagelin is clever in those parts of his brain which deal with math and physics, but like an autistic savant, lacks the general intelligence to keep him from doing stupid things like appearing in a movie produced by Ramtha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. They government is huge and internal communications are sloppy. It is not unlikely that one branch is giving money while another is hassling the movement. When I was teaching in DC soon after Jonestown, I¹m quite sure our phones were tapped. Just to put things in perspective (now that you've invoked Jonestown): my best friend went down to Guyana to teach TM for over a year in '78-79 and was there when Jonestown happened. According to him, the communist dictator running the country and his government thought the TMers were all CIA agents. Kooks are quick to assume the CIA are interested enough in them to start tapping their phones. We all like to think that what we're doing is important enough that large, powerful governments are going to spend money, time and resources to listen in on what we're doing. It's sad that MMY puts himself in the same category as dictators and disreputable cult leaders (who all, by the way, inevitably start blaming the CIA when their cults get bad publicity). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Flu Shots Increase Chances of Alzheimer's?
Title: Flu Shots Increase Chances of Alzheimer's? A friend writes: Rick, someone sent this to me. Sounds like an Urban Legend but it's not on snopes. Is there any other authority that might know? My Mother in 2004 she died from Alzheimers. She did take Flu shots and also cooked her food in aluminum pans. Last year I received this document. What makes me really angry is that this Flu shot is now given to 6 month old babies. Please save this document for you to pass it on to every one. To your health Keytohealth Robert0 http://www.vaclib.org http://www.vaclib.org/ (vaccine exemption forms) Flu Shots Increase Chances of Alzheimers Should You Get A Flu Shot? By Dr Sherri Tenpenny http://www.nmaseminars.com http://www.nmaseminars.com/ Alzheimer's Disease A serious concern: Hugh Fudenberg, MD, an immunogeneticist and biologist with nearly 850 papers published in peer review journals, has reported that if an individual had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied), his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had zero, one, or two shots.[vii] Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair of the Department of Chemistry at the University of Kentucky, Lexington has done extensive research in the area of mercury toxicity and the brain. Haley's research has established a likely connection between mercury toxicity and Alzheimer's disease. [viii] In a paper published in collaboration with researchers at University of Calgary, Haley stated that seven of the characteristic markers that we look for to distinguish Alzheimer's disease can be produced in normal brain tissues, or cultures of neurons, by the addition of extremely low levels of mercury.[ix] Does this prove that the mercury contained in the influenza shot can be directly linked to Alzheimer's? No, absolutely not. But further research in this area is critically needed because the absence of proof is not the proof of absence.[x] Flu vaccine now for children: The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) adopted a resolution effective March 1, 2003 that expanded the use of the influenza vaccine to include children aged 6-23 months. The recommendations also included vaccinating those aged 2 to 18 years who live in households containing children younger than 2 years of age.[xi] The flu vaccine most commonly given to children is Fluzone, a trivalent vaccine grown in chicken eggs. Harvested with formaldehyde and containing the recommended ratio of 15 ug of each of the three prototype viral strains, each dose of Fluzone also contains 25 ug of mercury.[xii] The new CDC recommendations include giving the influenza vaccine to children beginning at six months of age and then annually, for the rest of their lives. Children less than age 9 receiving their first flu shot, two doses of vaccine are recommended, with a minimum interval of one month between the two doses. However, the CDC does not provide a direct reference to substantiate this recommendation.[xiii] On June 17, 2003, the FDA approved an intranasal influenza vaccine for use in healthy persons aged 5-49 years. Flumist is a live-virus vaccine that can cause a litany of problems. (for further information on FluMist) What's in a flu shot? : During the manufacturing process, antibiotics (neomycin, polymyxin B and gentamicin) are added to eliminate stray bacteria found in the mixture. The final solution can contain the following additives in any combination: Triton X-100 (a detergent); polysorbate 80 (a potential carcinogen); gelatin; formaldehyde; and residual egg proteins. In addition, many of the influenza vaccines still contain Thimerosal as a preservative. Thimerosal (mercury) is being investigated for its link to brain injury and autoimmune disease. Alternatives? If you choose not to receive the flu shot, have a discussion with your doctor regarding other options. However, some simple and possibly quite effective things you can do for yourself to prevent the flu include: 1) avoid White Sugar http://curezone.com/c/?http://curezone.com/foods/sugarpage.asp ;[xiv] 2) exercise regularly; 3) get adequate sleep; 4) eat a healthy diet, omitting trans-fats; 5) drink plenty of purified water daily and 6) wash your hands. A common way people contract viral illnesses is by rubbing their nose or their eyes after their hands have been contaminated with a virus. The CDC states, the most important thing you can do to keep from getting sick is to wash your hands.[xv] Making the decision : You may decide to consult a physician who is schooled in alternative medicine to assess a variety of options for you and your family. What is most important, in the end, is to become as informed as possible regarding your options for keeping healthy and avoiding the flu. Need an Exemption form?: http://www.vaclib.org http://www.vaclib.org/ or call Donna 1-888-249-1421 __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip But to claim that there is some current and persistent government campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant money, etc) is just the sign of a defective brain and personality. It would probably be interesting to know *why* Hagelin asserted there were dirty government dealings involving TM, before dismissing his claims out of hand. I would agree with you if these revelations came out last week. But for God's sake, these CIA insinuations have been going on now for the better part of 25 years. Enough already! Give me proof -- some proof -- or shut the fuck up (not you, Judy, but those that make the insinuations). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs. on 8/25/06 10:56 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. What is it called? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/25/06 2:23 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/24/06 9:54 PM, matrixmonitor at matrixmonitor@ wrote:- - - http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/etchilhampton/etchilhampton20 06a .html Crop designs have reached a new level of sophistication this season. How come most of these happen in the UK? Has anyone ever been caught in the act of making one? It has been filmed. Small lights in the size of approximately a football creates the design within seconds. Let¹s see a film on YouTube or someplace. I was thinking the same thing. Nablus or anyone, do you know of a film of these things, accessible on line? I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. Thanks- I'll have a look. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/24/06 4:45 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How loopy is Ramtha?: I have a friend who was in Ramtha for 8 years, and who left, as did many others, when they all started drinking. The entire gang, JZ Knight included, would get plastered regularly because Ramtha recommended it. Many became raging alcoholics. Hah! How convenient. Of course, with his DWI, Hagelin would fit right in! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Hagelin and cronies are barring people from the dome for visiting others seen as competition for the hearts and minds of TMers, but Hagelin is proud of his association with Ramtha, was in a movie produced by and featuring this obvious hoax, and tours the country with what the MUM publicity team terms the prestigious Phophets conference: [snip] Here's an idea: Every few years we inevitably read the same human interest story in the paper where some guy goes down to the DMV and gets his dog a driver's license (in my 51 years I've seen this same story done at least 4 times in different locales at different times). Someone should do something similar with Hagelin: Apply to the Invincibility course and put down on their application the exact same relationships with Ramtha and activities that Hagelin has had. And let's see if they are accepted or rejected from the course! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 10:56 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. What is it called? Sucker __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. He's a pacifist, but he's still intolerant. Well, he's not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. And what exactly do you believe he's intolerant *of*? TM, alcohol in the White House, anything that offends his religious sensibilities that he has direct control of. Like most of us, I would imagine. He's also intolerant of a lot of things he has no direct control of, such as racial, religious, and gender discrimination, discrimination against gays and lesbians, human rights violations of all kinds, blurring the line between church and state, not taking care of the poor, etc., etc. Frankly, I don't mind a bit of intolerance on his part about things I'm tolerant of, as long as he's intolerant about the kinds of things I listed above. I'd be really interested to hear why he was so intolerant of TM. My *guess* is that he was convinced MMY was pushing Hinduism in disguise, and that what he didn't like was the perceived deception. If MMY had openly promoted Hinduism, I doubt he'd have objected. Certainly there were plenty of others promoting it that didn't draw his wrath. As I said, he does have his blind spots, and this was one of the worse ones. But he got such high marks in so many other areas, I'm willing to forgive him for it. That peanutfellow sent armed men into Sonnenberg. But I'll forgive him. He didn't accomplish what he tried anyway; to kill Maharishi. Fuck you, Nablus. Provide proof or simply shut the fuck up, you creepy cult-infested vermin. I'm the last person on Earth who could be called a fan of Jimmy Carter but it's the lowest, most vile form of slander to suggest that someone did something like what you accuse him of without even a shred of evidence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
Go to google videos and type in crop circles. Several videos. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 10:56 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. What is it called? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
Welcome back, Barry. Have a cappuccino and a croissant, on us. :) Sal On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: On returning from my Road Trip, I spent about an hour catching up, and I thank those who encouraged me to stick around. I've decided to take you up on the offer, at least for a little while, and with some self-imposed restrictions. I plan to spend a maximum of 20 minutes a day :-) reading FFL, and then to do so very, very selectively, reading only what catches my eye, and avoiding those posters whom time has proven a waste of time. If I post, it will be as an exercise in writing, not as a prelude to or an invitation to argue. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is not fear, but love, that creates law and order.
Careful, Rick, or you'll get us sent back to the porno section. Sal On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Size doesn’t matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Hagelin and cronies are barring people from the dome for visiting others seen as competition for the hearts and minds of TMers, but Hagelin is proud of his association with Ramtha, was in a movie produced by and featuring this obvious hoax, and tours the country with what the MUM publicity team terms the prestigious Phophets conference: [snip] Here's an idea: Every few years we inevitably read the same human interest story in the paper where some guy goes down to the DMV and gets his dog a driver's license (in my 51 years I've seen this same story done at least 4 times in different locales at different times). Someone should do something similar with Hagelin: Apply to the Invincibility course and put down on their application the exact same relationships with Ramtha and activities that Hagelin has had. And let's see if they are accepted or rejected from the course! Walter Day did a thing a some years back where he cut out photos of Bevan, Gregg Wilson, Kurleigh King, etc., from some publication and pasted them on his dome badge. Day after day, he got into the dome this way. Finally they caught him using the Kurleigh King photo (Kurleigh King was black). A few days later he was sitting in the small group security check with Gregg Wilson and Gregg said, Uh, Walter, we understand youve been pasting our photos on your dome badge. Walter started getting nervous, but then Gregg said, Dont worry. We thought it was funny. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/25/06 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Hagelin and cronies are barring people from the dome for visiting others seen as competition for the hearts and minds of TMers, but Hagelin is proud of his association with Ramtha, was in a movie produced by and featuring this obvious hoax, and tours the country with what the MUM publicity team terms the prestigious Phophets conference: [snip] Here's an idea: Every few years we inevitably read the same human interest story in the paper where some guy goes down to the DMV and gets his dog a driver's license (in my 51 years I've seen this same story done at least 4 times in different locales at different times). Someone should do something similar with Hagelin: Apply to the Invincibility course and put down on their application the exact same relationships with Ramtha and activities that Hagelin has had. And let's see if they are accepted or rejected from the course! Walter Day did a thing a some years back where he cut out photos of Bevan, Gregg Wilson, Kurleigh King, etc., from some publication and pasted them on his dome badge. Day after day, he got into the dome this way. Finally they caught him using the Kurleigh King photo (Kurleigh King was black). A few days later he was sitting in the small group security check with Gregg Wilson and Gregg said, ³Uh, Walter, we understand you¹ve been pasting our photos on your dome badge.² Walter started getting nervous, but then Gregg said, ³Don¹t worry. We thought it was funny.² I got to know Greg a little when Purusha first started in DC. He's got a very, very dry sense of humor. He seems quite serious but he's not. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to google videos and type in crop circles. Several videos. YouTube has 130 of 'em. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: snip I have a video which features it. It's quite a remarkable film, showing the lights manifesting the pattern. You should be able to find if you search the sites dedicated to cropcircles. Thanks- I'll have a look. The first crop circles video listed on YouTube looks as though it may be what nablus is describing. However, in the comments, a couple of people point out that the person who made the video has admitted that he faked it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Oh, and there's a nice little bonus for you guys at the end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. The impression I have from the reports here is that people who have seen other saints *are* allowed to participate in the course if they sign a statement vowing never to do so again. Not good, obviously, but at least the TMO seems to believe in the possibility of redemption. Redemption from what? The *fallen state* of seeing other saints. Talk about damning with 'faint praise'. The difference between being completely over the top and just being over the top. The words 'vow' and 'redemption' don't belong in this path. Then again neither do crowns and raja's. Bagpipes are another question entirely. :-) Things have gone so wild that all perspective has been lost. JohnY snip I suggest all of this as a way to help the more balanced posters here feel more compassion for some of the more strident voices among them. The angrier these voices get, the more they demonize others who think for themselves and are honest about their doubts and their extracurricular interests, the more angry they really are at themselves. The more they demonize these cootie-infested individuals, the more they internally demonize themselves. Funny, I've seen very little in the way of demonizing of those with extracurricular interests here lately. In fact, most of the demonizing seems to be going in the other direction (as in this post of Barry's). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. The impression I have from the reports here is that people who have seen other saints *are* allowed to participate in the course if they sign a statement vowing never to do so again. Not good, obviously, but at least the TMO seems to believe in the possibility of redemption. Redemption from what? The *fallen state* of seeing other saints. Talk about damning with 'faint praise'. The difference between being completely over the top and just being over the top. The words 'vow' and 'redemption' don't belong in this path. Then again neither do crowns and raja's. Bagpipes are another question entirely. :-) Things have gone so wild that all perspective has been lost. I agree with you. Redemption was meant a bit sardonically. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear of CC: Self Loathing as Spiritual Path
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Such is the fear of Cosmic Cooties at this point that the official TM organization won't allow anyone who has *admitted to* any contact with either of the cootie- infested behaviors to be part of civilzed...uh, I mean evolved...company. They are weeded out and sent off to the hell world that the TBs have been trained to believe awaits them. The impression I have from the reports here is that people who have seen other saints *are* allowed to participate in the course if they sign a statement vowing never to do so again. Not good, obviously, but at least the TMO seems to believe in the possibility of redemption. Redemption from what? The *fallen state* of seeing other saints. Talk about damning with 'faint praise'. The difference between being completely over the top and just being over the top. The words 'vow' and 'redemption' don't belong in this path. Then again neither do crowns and raja's. Bagpipes are another question entirely. :-) Things have gone so wild that all perspective has been lost. I agree with you. Redemption was meant a bit sardonically. I didn't see it at that momment, it's hard to see loopsided smiles thru the text, sometimes. :) I've seen quite a few people get turned off about TM lately after looking at the websites. It's too bad. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Speaking of new art forms, several years ago I was in an arty French village on the Riviera, and went into the tiny Picasso museum that they have there. It's more of a He lived here once museum than anything else, and doesn't have that much original art, but there was a photograph there that just charmed my socks off. The photographer had taken a portrait of the artist but using a long -- several seconds long -- exposure. While the shutter was open, Picasso had created a drawing of a bull in mid air, using a small penlight. The drawing was perfect. The following sites, for which I must thank my brother, display the work of young Japanese artists who create this same type of art, but in motion. Using nothing more than a *series* of still photographs created the same way, with a long exposure, they are able to draw *animated* figures in mid air, with using colored flashlights. I really *love* this stuff. Imagine the sense of *space* that the artists have to have to draw not only a single figure in mid air, but to draw a sequence of those figures in mid air, to give the impression of an animal walking, or a bird flying. I also love this stuff because it reminds me of a Japanese form of puppetry called bunraku. In bunraku, the puppets are very complex, often requiring the presence of three puppeteers per character to control them. The puppeteers are onstage at all times, dressed head to toe in black. What makes it an artform is that after about five minutes you no longer see them on the stage. All you see is the puppets. http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris-garrett/animated-long-exposure-photographs/ http://tochka.jp/pikapika/2006/06/report_pikapika_in_kitijoji.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. Or disorders. I have met very many adults that has been practising Yogic Flying - and really got troubles with mental disorders, and physical disorders. The technique is too strong for many children. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. Or disorders. I have met very many adults that has been practising Yogic Flying - and really got troubles with mental disorders, and physical disorders. The technique is too strong for many children. Ingegerd Aside from whatever benefit the children or the national consciousness may recieve, learning disabled children have easier access to government funds. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Ethnic cleansing by Israel, an eye opener
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=341600202419569830hl=en To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Speaking of new art forms, several years ago I was in an arty French village on the Riviera, and went into the tiny Picasso museum that they have there. It's more of a He lived here once museum than anything else, and doesn't have that much original art, but there was a photograph there that just charmed my socks off. The photographer had taken a portrait of the artist but using a long -- several seconds long -- exposure. While the shutter was open, Picasso had created a drawing of a bull in mid air, using a small penlight. The drawing was perfect. The following sites, for which I must thank my brother, display the work of young Japanese artists who create this same type of art, but in motion. Using nothing more than a *series* of still photographs created the same way, with a long exposure, they are able to draw *animated* figures in mid air, with using colored flashlights. I really *love* this stuff. Imagine the sense of *space* that the artists have to have to draw not only a single figure in mid air, but to draw a sequence of those figures in mid air, to give the impression of an animal walking, or a bird flying. I also love this stuff because it reminds me of a Japanese form of puppetry called bunraku. In bunraku, the puppets are very complex, often requiring the presence of three puppeteers per character to control them. The puppeteers are onstage at all times, dressed head to toe in black. What makes it an artform is that after about five minutes you no longer see them on the stage. All you see is the puppets. http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris-garrett/animated-long-exposure- photographs/ http://tochka.jp/pikapika/2006/06/report_pikapika_in_kitijoji.html Wow! Thanks for sharing this! Really fun cool stuff! I am inspired- May have to try this myself- Absolutely love it! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] From my Inbox: Shame! Shame! Shame!
Invincible America: SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP URGENT MESSAGE TO ALL YOGIC FLYERS IN FAIRFIELD/MAHARISHI VEDIC CITY SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP JOIN THE COURSE! Dear Governors and Sidhas of Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City, As Yogic Flyers, we have all been supremely blessed by Maharishi with the knowledge and technologies to rise to enlightenmentto enjoy better health, greater success in business, and more fulfillment at home. And yet, as Maharishi has said, with this knowledge comes a responsibility: We must use the knowledge for the good of humanity. I offer my deepest, most heartfelt gratitude to everyone who is gathering in the flying halls to raise America to invincibility and to transform the world. I know many of you have come from hundreds, even thousands, of miles away to be here despite significant personal and professional difficulties. I congratulate you on your commitment and your priorities. But there are still hundreds of Yogic Flyers in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City who are not in the flying halls. To those of you, I must be honest; I must use this strong language: Shame. Shame. You know better. You know what your individual participation in the group can do to reduce the violence and lift the pain and suffering of millions and billions of people in the world. I have researched the Maharishi Effect for decades. I have worked alongside nonmeditating scientists and statisticians to crunch the numbers. Our findings have been published in top, peer-reviewed scientific journals. The results show the absolutely dramatic effect each additional Yogic Flyer makes in spreading peace to larger and larger populations of the world. Every Yogic Flyer in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City is needed in the flying halls now. Yes, you have a responsibility to ensure that your family is happy and healthy and strong. But you have an equally profound responsibility to your world family. You can do both. Make it a priority and Nature will support. Register today with the Invincible America Course office: 641-472-1230. Jai Guru Dev John Hagelin To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. Or disorders. I have met very many adults that has been practising Yogic Flying - and really got troubles with mental disorders, and physical disorders. The technique is too strong for many children. Ingegerd I tend to agree- although I always got great results, I found the technique exceptionally powerful, and difficult to stay grounded efterwards. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Great find! I was surfing Youtube earlier and I missed this one...Yeah, I just don't see how these are man-made... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] From my Inbox: Shame! Shame! Shame!
THe TMO's new motto: When fear no longer works, try shame. Sal On Aug 25, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Invincible America: SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP URGENT MESSAGE TO ALL YOGIC FLYERS IN FAIRFIELD/MAHARISHI VEDIC CITY SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP JOIN THE COURSE! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
I'm having a very strange experience. I'm listening to, and occasionally watching, a long (hour and a half) video, beautifully produced, in which a group of real scientists very convincingly prove that crop circles cannot possibly be manmade, including via chemical/radiological/etc. analysis of plants taken from the circles, and the complexity of the mathematics behind the patterns. These aren't woo-woo types at all; they're dead serious, and they admit they really have no idea who or what is making the circles or how it's done, other than that it ain't human beans. (There is a discussion among woo-woo types at the end, speculating about the extraterrestrial intelligences who are creating the circles.) One of them just made the point that half-finished crop circles, or crop circles with mistakes, are never seen. At the same time I have the video running, with one ear on it, I'm also reading material from the very elaborate Web site of two British men who claim to be the original circle makers, which contains detailed information on how they go about making the circles. According to them, there is now a small, elite subculture of circle makers all over the world. But see the quote from one of the circle makers at the end of the post. These guys started out as garden- variety hoaxers, but their endeavor seems to have morphed into something much more significant. Scientists Prove Crop Circles Not Man Made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJJ-pPA2gL0 Web site of the original circle makers in England: http://www.circlemakers.org/ The About section of the Web site: http://www.circlemakers.org/case_history.html Beginners' Guide: How to make crop circles: http://www.circlemakers.org/guide.html Their book, coming out shortly: http://www.strangeattractor.co.uk/fieldguide/ Available here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0954805429/ From Alien Lightforms, an essay by by John Lundberg at the Circlemakers site: The circles have become signs and portents of our time, fuelling Millennial fever. They function as huge Rorschach tests writ large in the fields of southern England, deciphered according to the belief system of those who view the phenomenon. I'm often asked why I make crop circles. It's a difficult question to answer, there are countless reasons for doing it. Being able to construct something that many people believe to be beyond human endeavour is certainly one. The circles-prone area of Wiltshire could be referred to as a psychic landscape. The location of crop circles within this landscape is of great consequence. Seeing a formation put down in just the right place in relation to its surroundings adds an extra dimension to a formation; it becomes more than the sum of its parts. The proximity of many circles to established sacred sites, such as Avebury or Silbury Hill, only adds to this sensation. In 1991, Rob Irving described the crop circles as being temporary sacred sites. Last year, we created a number of these. Many people visited them. Some came to meditate; some came to dance; others came to decipher, and still others came simply to view these huge ...cathedral-like floor plans. Numerous visitors reported a diverse assortment of anomalies associated with these sites. I consider the circles we've put down to be genuine. There is no intention on our part to deceive. Our work generates response, often from other circlemakers, and can sometimes act to catalyse a wide range of paranormal events. I still believe there is a genuine phenomenon, but I now also believe that we're a part of it. Working backstage with the circles has allowed me to journey into the heart of an anomaly. It's been a real eye-opener, as well as providing a fascinating sociological insight. I certainly haven't got the whole picture yet - but I've got a much clearer one. From Alien Lightforms, an essay by by John Lundberg at the Circlemakers site: http://www.circlemakers.org/alien.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Great find! I was surfing Youtube earlier and I missed this one...Yeah, I just don't see how these are man-made... You know, when I found the CircleMakers Web site I just posted about, at first I was kind of sad; I thought it would take all the joy and wonder out of the circles. But oddly enough, it doesn't. To think that humans can make them is even *more* wonderful, like the long-exposure light animations and the puppet shows you cited. Plus which, the circle makers themselves have an almost mystical attitude toward their creations. The site's really worth spending some time on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : All applicants come NOW.--Maharishi / Guidelines?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : All applicants come NOW.--Maharishi / Guidelines? on 8/23/06 7:34 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weren't the kinds of records I was talking about, obviously. Any dirt on anyone I'm sure they'd keep somewhere, even any alleged dirt. Very true. I know people who were accused of having done something (such as organizing to bring saints to town) by someone who just wanted to make life difficult for them. They hadnt done the thing, but they had their badge pulled nonetheless. They werent told who their accuser was or shown any evidence of the thing they were accused of having done. Just the fact that they were accused was enough to keep them out of the dome for a couple of years. This sort of thing used to happen around MMY too. If someone brought to his attention that so-and-so had done something, he considered it the persons karma that they were being accused, whether or not they had actually done the thing, and that was enough to get them sent home. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Speaking of new art forms, several years ago I was in an arty French village on the Riviera, and went into the tiny Picasso museum that they have there. It's more of a He lived here once museum than anything else, and doesn't have that much original art, but there was a photograph there that just charmed my socks off. The photographer had taken a portrait of the artist but using a long -- several seconds long -- exposure. While the shutter was open, Picasso had created a drawing of a bull in mid air, using a small penlight. The drawing was perfect. That's actually a famous photograph...I wish I could remember who the photographer was... The following sites, for which I must thank my brother, display the work of young Japanese artists who create this same type of art, but in motion. Using nothing more than a *series* of still photographs created the same way, with a long exposure, they are able to draw *animated* figures in mid air, with using colored flashlights. I really *love* this stuff. Imagine the sense of *space* that the artists have to have to draw not only a single figure in mid air, but to draw a sequence of those figures in mid air, to give the impression of an animal walking, or a bird flying. I also love this stuff because it reminds me of a Japanese form of puppetry called bunraku. In bunraku, the puppets are very complex, often requiring the presence of three puppeteers per character to control them. The puppeteers are onstage at all times, dressed head to toe in black. What makes it an artform is that after about five minutes you no longer see them on the stage. All you see is the puppets. http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris-garrett/animated-long-exposure- photographs/ http://tochka.jp/pikapika/2006/06/report_pikapika_in_kitijoji.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. Or disorders. I have met very many adults that has been practising Yogic Flying - and really got troubles with mental disorders, and physical disorders. The technique is too strong for many children. Ingegerd I would suspect that anyone that appears to develop disorders from either yogic flying or TM would have already had those innate disorders inside them to begin with (with the exception of certain physical disorders such as knee or back problems which, I concede, certainly may develop as a result of yogic flying). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: From my Inbox: Shame! Shame! Shame!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THe TMO's new motto: When fear no longer works, try shame. And when fear and shame no longer work, blame the CIA...and Jimmy Carter... Sal On Aug 25, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Invincible America: SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP URGENT MESSAGE TO ALL YOGIC FLYERS IN FAIRFIELD/MAHARISHI VEDIC CITY SHAME ON THOSE NOT FLYING IN THE GROUP JOIN THE COURSE! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a very strange experience. I'm listening to, and occasionally watching, a long (hour and a half) video, beautifully produced, in which a group of real scientists very convincingly prove that crop circles cannot possibly be manmade, including via chemical/radiological/etc. analysis of plants taken from the circles, and the complexity of the mathematics behind the patterns. These aren't woo-woo types at all; they're dead serious, and they admit they really have no idea who or what is making the circles or how it's done, other than that it ain't human beans. (There is a discussion among woo-woo types at the end, speculating about the extraterrestrial intelligences who are creating the circles.) One of them just made the point that half-finished crop circles, or crop circles with mistakes, are never seen. At the same time I have the video running, with one ear on it, I'm also reading material from the very elaborate Web site of two British men who claim to be the original circle makers, which contains detailed information on how they go about making the circles. According to them, there is now a small, elite subculture of circle makers all over the world. But see the quote from one of the circle makers at the end of the post. These guys started out as garden- variety hoaxers, but their endeavor seems to have morphed into something much more significant. It's pretty obvious to me who's been making all those crop circles. Yup. Barry Wright. Scientists Prove Crop Circles Not Man Made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJJ-pPA2gL0 Web site of the original circle makers in England: http://www.circlemakers.org/ The About section of the Web site: http://www.circlemakers.org/case_history.html Beginners' Guide: How to make crop circles: http://www.circlemakers.org/guide.html Their book, coming out shortly: http://www.strangeattractor.co.uk/fieldguide/ Available here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0954805429/ From Alien Lightforms, an essay by by John Lundberg at the Circlemakers site: The circles have become signs and portents of our time, fuelling Millennial fever. They function as huge Rorschach tests writ large in the fields of southern England, deciphered according to the belief system of those who view the phenomenon. I'm often asked why I make crop circles. It's a difficult question to answer, there are countless reasons for doing it. Being able to construct something that many people believe to be beyond human endeavour is certainly one. The circles-prone area of Wiltshire could be referred to as a psychic landscape. The location of crop circles within this landscape is of great consequence. Seeing a formation put down in just the right place in relation to its surroundings adds an extra dimension to a formation; it becomes more than the sum of its parts. The proximity of many circles to established sacred sites, such as Avebury or Silbury Hill, only adds to this sensation. In 1991, Rob Irving described the crop circles as being temporary sacred sites. Last year, we created a number of these. Many people visited them. Some came to meditate; some came to dance; others came to decipher, and still others came simply to view these huge ...cathedral-like floor plans. Numerous visitors reported a diverse assortment of anomalies associated with these sites. I consider the circles we've put down to be genuine. There is no intention on our part to deceive. Our work generates response, often from other circlemakers, and can sometimes act to catalyse a wide range of paranormal events. I still believe there is a genuine phenomenon, but I now also believe that we're a part of it. Working backstage with the circles has allowed me to journey into the heart of an anomaly. It's been a real eye-opener, as well as providing a fascinating sociological insight. I certainly haven't got the whole picture yet - but I've got a much clearer one. From Alien Lightforms, an essay by by John Lundberg at the Circlemakers site: http://www.circlemakers.org/alien.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : All applicants come NOW.--Maharishi / Guidelines?
Makes me glad I never got too close to him... Sounds like a total plonker!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/23/06 7:34 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weren't the kinds of records I was talking about, obviously. Any dirt on anyone I'm sure they'd keep somewhere, even any alleged dirt. Very true. I know people who were accused of having done something (such as organizing to bring saints to town) by someone who just wanted to make life difficult for them. They hadn¹t done the thing, but they had their badge pulled nonetheless. They weren¹t told who their accuser was or shown any evidence of the thing they were accused of having done. Just the fact that they were accused was enough to keep them out of the dome for a couple of years. This sort of thing used to happen around MMY too. If someone brought to his attention that so-and-so had done something, he considered it the person¹s karma that they were being accused, whether or not they had actually done the thing, and that was enough to get them sent home. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I find this depressing...
I found this article depressing because it reveals how much a blackjack dealer makes in a year. - Wynn alters rules on tips Plan for sharing gratuities upsets casino's dealers By HOWARD STUTZ GAMING WIRE Steve Wynn The Wynn Las Vegas chief told table game workers personally, official says A restructuring of how Wynn Las Vegas manages its casino soon will leave many dealers there a little lighter in the wallet. Starting Sept. 1, table game supervisors will share in the tips earned by dealers, a move gaming industry insiders said is unheard of along the Strip. Advertisement This amounts to money out of my pocket to pay other employees, said one dealer, a 14-year veteran who has worked at the $2.7 billion Wynn Las Vegas since it opened in April 2005. It will cause a lot of disgruntled dealers. You're taking frontline people and making them unhappy. The change will cause him to lose at least $30,000 a year in tip earnings, he said. Wynn Resorts Ltd. Chairman Steve Wynn and other executives told table game employees of the pending changes Monday night. Wynn had been in China working on preparations for next month's opening of the $1 billion Wynn Macau. But he thought the issue was important enough to make a 15-hour flight to Las Vegas to tell his workers personally, Wynn Las Vegas President Andrew Pascal said Tuesday. A widening disparity between the wages earned by dealers and casino floor supervisors caused the Strip casino to alter the structure of its table games division, Pascal said. Starting next week, pit bosses and floor supervisors will be known as casino service team leaders. Their responsibilities will cover the operations of specific table games, including game protection and customer service. The new plan will be phased in over several weeks. Gaming Control Board sources said Tuesday they were unaware of any changes in policy at Wynn Las Vegas. A source said the casino had applied to change some of its table game internal controls but did not advise gaming regulators about what modifications were being requested. The most controversial part of the restructuring is a change in compensation. Pascal said that Wynn Las Vegas dealers are the highest- paid dealers in the city, averaging about $100,000 per year in salary and tip earnings. But the employees supervising dealers average about $60,000 a year in salary, Pascal said. Because of our property, that disparity has gotten wider, Pascal said, citing Wynn's emphasis on high-end play as one reason its dealers' tokes are larger than most Strip properties. There was no incentive in the division to advance and grow. Everybody wanted to become dealers, he added. Dealers who split tips by shifts now will share those tokes with team leaders and supervisors, who also will receive a boost in base salary. The result, Pascal said, will be dealers earning an average of $90,000 annually while supervisors will be paid $95,000. We're still going to have the highest-paid dealers on the Strip, Pascal said. What it does is rebalances the structure of our table games division and gives a person an incentive to take on more responsibility. But dealers said sharing tokes with supervisors is unfair. Writing anonymously on the dealers Internet forum, CasinoDealers.net, several Wynn employees said they were disappointed that their paychecks could be reduced by an estimated 10 percent to 20 percent. Some said they were upset by the short notice before the changes take effect; others said they will apply for different positions to avoid a pay cut. We will continue to go to work, smile, and do our jobs to the best of our ability. We have no choice, one Wynn dealer wrote. The image of 'Steve Wynn' convinced us we were safe, but the image was just a mirage. I think I will be applying for a 'team leader' position to minimize the financial damage that lies ahead. Another dealer wrote that Wynn Las Vegas mismanaged its staff and is forcing line employees to share in the burden. They say that it is because they think it's only 'right' for supervisors to make more than dealers because this is how things are in other industries, the dealer wrote. Well, dealers making more than supervisors is how it has always been in this industry and this didn't become the 'right' thing to do until Wynn failed miserably to make their employees happy. MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said examples exist throughout the gaming industry of entry-level managers earning far less than the line workers they oversee. Bartenders and cocktail waitresses sometimes earn more than the assistant beverage manager. The management positions are on a completely different career path than the line employees, Feldman said. Harrah's Entertainment spokesman David Strow said that historically at Harrah's-owned properties, including the upscale Caesars Palace, supervisors do not share in the tip pool with dealers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : All applicants come NOW.--Maharishi / Guidelines?
Too bad nobody ever tried accusing the accusers. Sal On Aug 25, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/23/06 7:34 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weren't the kinds of records I was talking about, obviously. Any dirt on anyone I'm sure they'd keep somewhere, even any alleged dirt. Very true. I know people who were accused of having done something (such as organizing to bring saints to town) by someone who just wanted to make life difficult for them. They hadn’t done the thing, but they had their badge pulled nonetheless. They weren’t told who their accuser was or shown any evidence of the thing they were accused of having done. Just the fact that they were accused was enough to keep them out of the dome for a couple of years. This sort of thing used to happen around MMY too. If someone brought to his attention that so-and-so had done something, he considered it the person’s karma that they were being accused, whether or not they had actually done the thing, and that was enough to get them sent home. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white cats, was sitting *in* the soup and bent over, licking it up, at the same time that I was also eating from the bowl with a spoon. And, it was all perfectly normal. Last night I dreamt that I was working out the drum part for three Lithuainian girls dressed in native costumes singing a Christian hymn in one of those unusual harmonies. My wife was dreaming that a brown snake with a chipped fang was trying to bite her. And your dream was.. I dreamt I was driving someplace with my partner up a winding road in the snow, with pine trees lining the road, only it was in a '67 dodge dart station wagon I owned years ago. I've been on that road before, as I tend to revisit places in my dreams. The next thing I knew I was out of the car, sledding down the road on a piece of foam, until I made my way up a ravine between a house and a bush. A dog barked, and I barked back, which woke me up. And your dream was... I was dreaming I was sleeping in Rosie's bed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
Some are crop circles and some are Photoshop fakes. Two different layers, adjust the opacity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip These have always fascinated me because of their size, perfect design and complexity. The artist-engineer piece of my mind cannot concieve how these large designs can be made so quickly, apparently at night, with perfect proportions, by human beings. Astonishing. A true mystery. I just watched this one on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/s67q8 They've gotten *way* more elaborate and refined since the last time I paid any attention to them. Some of the ones in this video are unbelievably complex, and quite stunningly beautiful. Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Great find! I was surfing Youtube earlier and I missed this one...Yeah, I just don't see how these are man-made... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Give me your dunces, learning impaired, and retarded...
Ingegerd wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like this idea of MMY's: Parents with children who are having difficulties with conventional learning can have their children trained in Yogic Flying, and through their group practice of the technique, the children will create integrated, invincible national consciousness. Or disorders. I have met very many adults that has been practising Yogic Flying - and really got troubles with mental disorders, and physical disorders. The technique is too strong for many children. Ingegerd I agree. Plus children should especially practice only Shiva mantras as they are calming. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm having a very strange experience. I'm listening to, and occasionally watching, a long (hour and a half) video, beautifully produced, in which a group of real scientists very convincingly prove that crop circles cannot possibly be manmade, including via chemical/radiological/etc. analysis of plants taken from the circles, and the complexity of the mathematics behind the patterns. These aren't woo-woo types at all; they're dead serious, and they admit they really have no idea who or what is making the circles or how it's done, other than that it ain't human beans. (There is a discussion among woo-woo types at the end, speculating about the extraterrestrial intelligences who are creating the circles.) One of them just made the point that half-finished crop circles, or crop circles with mistakes, are never seen. At the same time I have the video running, with one ear on it, I'm also reading material from the very elaborate Web site of two British men who claim to be the original circle makers, which contains detailed information on how they go about making the circles. According to them, there is now a small, elite subculture of circle makers all over the world. But see the quote from one of the circle makers at the end of the post. These guys started out as garden- variety hoaxers, but their endeavor seems to have morphed into something much more significant. It's pretty obvious to me who's been making all those crop circles. Yup. Barry Wright. Couldn't figure this out, then I realized: You didn't read the post. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Mayan crop designs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Even if they *are* made by humans--and like Jim, I have a hard time understanding how that can be the case (although not from his engineering perspective)-- they're absolutely remarkable, truly a new art form. Great find! I was surfing Youtube earlier and I missed this one...Yeah, I just don't see how these are man-made... You know, when I found the CircleMakers Web site I just posted about, at first I was kind of sad; I thought it would take all the joy and wonder out of the circles. But oddly enough, it doesn't. To think that humans can make them is even *more* wonderful, like the long-exposure light animations and the puppet shows you cited. Plus which, the circle makers themselves have an almost mystical attitude toward their creations. The site's really worth spending some time on. Thanks for this- I had no idea these intricate designs could be made by humans. Now I know- Yes they are beautiful! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A SCIENCE OF SALVATION FROM SUFFERING
A SCIENCE OF SALVATION FROM SUFFERING http://www.salvationscience.com I apologize to those of you who went to our website, only to be turned away by a sign saying we had exceeded our bandwidth. What that means is that you, the readers, have been entering the website in such numbers, we had to pay an additional fee, in order to handle the enormous traffic in there. And it is all free. It only costs me my time and money, and I am glad to do it, because it is the right thing to do. You should be able to get into the website now, to do some very serious reading. Some said they didn't like our Message. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. When presented with an opportunity to overcome so many sufferings, the only question should be: Does it work or not? Our Message is scripturally based, but was previously unknown to most of us. Therefore, this Knowledge re-emerges as several Experimental Theories. Don't knock it till you have tried it. In other words, speculation about what would be the outcome of such experimental research, is often but a foot-dragging stalling tactic of those who don't want any of us to know if the Marriage Supper of the Lamb of God works or not. Such questions can only be answered by rational minds, using Scientific Method and Experimental Research. We all realize that some of our experimental therapies are difficult at best and distasteful at worst. We all agree about that. But only science can answer as to the benefits and efficacy of our Experimental Protocols - not idle armchair speculation. If any are offended by our message, I apologize in advance, but there was no other way to make this non-commercial public service announcement. I am an ascetic, reclusive sadhu, and I am not trying to recruit you or get your money. I apologize I cannot answer every post directed to me. All comments an queries should be emailed to me. Thank you, and I hope you benefit from the knowledge provided in the library at SalvationScience.com. We are completely non-sectarian, and quote from all scriptures of all the world's religions, without preference or prejudice. Any moderator who does not wish to post such a messages as this, might kindly and lovingly unsubscribe me from the group. Although we are a new competitior for the minds and hearts of the people, we are not trying to interfere with their free choice. Blessings to all! Jai Om. - Sw. Tantrasangha http://www.salvationscience.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
