[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > 
> > > > Attempts to amass money is not "bad".
> > > > 
> > > > Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices 
of 
> >a 
> > > >non-
> > > > profit organisation and then using it for your own personal 
> >gains 
> > > > IS "bad".  And it's not holy either.
> > > > 
> > > > If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that 
> >is 
> > > > precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
> > > > 
> > > > Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
> > > > financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in 
> > order 
> > > >to 
> > > > confirm whether it's true.  
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be 
great 
> >to 
> > > >be 
> > > > proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  
If 
> > so, 
> > > > what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against 
> >Girish 
> > > >et. 
> > > > al. that have been made here?
> > > > 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
> > > University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking 
account/ 
> > > savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit 
> > slip 
> > > from my current account.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > "The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so 
please 
> > > send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit 
> > required 
> > > to make a repair appointment this summer.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility 
for 
> > our 
> > > country, and for creating a more perfect world.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very 
precious 
> > > work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level 
> >you 
> > > can, and thank you in advance for your support.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent 
> >generosity...
> > > There has never been so much given to this community for so 
> >little 
> > > cost."
> > >
> > 
> > ??
> > 
> > What does the above have to do with anything?
> > 
> > Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here?  
Did 
> >I 
> > not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you 
do 
> >it 
> > risking your own physical safety?  Did I not read here that a 
donor 
> > who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that 
the 
> > money was "lost" in transit?
> > 
> 
>  What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in 
this 
>  conversation??
> >
> 
> Oh Dear Shemp, may be it is their cry of wolf too much.  But it may 
> be up they are up against it.  You know, a lot of money over the 
dam 
> and under the bridge.  They might be up against it with people like 
> you and the Kaplans wanting an accounting and all.  
> 
> Hey,I was hoping that betwx the two of us may be we could come up 
> with a hundred dollars of shingles to fix the roof.  I already gave 
a 
> hundred dollars to the roof last week when the letter first came 
> out.  May be if you would match me,  then between the two of us 
there 
> could be a hundred dollars of shingles.  Who knows?  May be that is 
> part of the problem.
> 
> A lot of people have voted with their feet.  I mean,now come show 
> your faith, belief, or experience?  How about a hundred bucks, from 
> FFL?
> 
> Your Friend,
> JGD, Gov Doug fra FF
>

...and a big, wet, juicy kiss from the Easter Bunny to you!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
wrote:
> >
> > the joy of drinking...
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
> 
> Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well-
> written review makes me want to order the book.
> 
> The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. 
> Honestly, I really don't drink that much -- too
> fuckin' old to get away with it -- but I really
> do appreciate a good bar. I'm a fan of the Bars
> With Ambiance Of Their Own. It doesn't have to
> be a classy, upscale, designer-Buddhist ambiance,
> like the Buddhabars in Paris and in Barcelona.
> Obviously. I blew out of the Nirvana bar in Sitges
> within minutes. By comparison, the Bar Pay Pay 
> down the block is tacky to the max. But it's got 
> soul, man. One feels good sitting here and watching 
> the passersby. One has cool conversations here, and 
> has them consistently. What more can one ask of a 
> bar?
> 
> The "social lubricants" of human society such as 
> aloohol have been around as long as there have 
> been humans, and thus are an important part of
> the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave 
> men* found ways to distill plants and get high. 
> Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung 
> up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the 
> earliest humans carried with them the chimps' 
> inherent desire to "get high," to shift their 
> state of attention.
> 
> In the absence of technologies such as meditation,
> bars are where humans go to shift their state of
> attention. Most of the humans on this planet are
> unaware of technologies such as meditation. There-
> fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's 
> where you would go if you were a seeker who had
> found no other way to shift your state of attention.
> 
> The best bar I've ever had the privilege of 
> sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows
> On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif-
> icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been
> in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may
> be a stretch for those still attached to the puri-
> tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, 
> the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the
> time I was going there. But, it's also the kind
> of brothel where you might run into the Stones 
> at the bar, or politicians from major countries
> of the world. It's a real trip.

Man, how prejudiced you are. 
Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in the Main 
Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity in all it's facets. 
Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for seclusion 
to reach that state. 
Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer recall, was 
obviously firmly established in that state.
One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on a trip to 
Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly find himself in a 
well known bar in that city where the secretary insisted they should 
spend quite some time.
When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going home to 
India someone asked him how his stay had been. Marvelous he said, 
then he declared that Maharishi is a generous and great Mahapurusha. 
But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !

The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into Brahman, to 
experience that he was in fact everything, including bars and their 
inhabitants.

Would Maharishi denounce brothels ? Me think not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> 
> Mother Meera:
> http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/

Just curious, is she perhaps from the North of India?

> 
> Chicago Program:
> http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp
> 
> -Gov Doug,FF
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
> >
> > > 
> > > Attempts to amass money is not "bad".
> > > 
> > > Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of 
>a 
> > >non-
> > > profit organisation and then using it for your own personal 
>gains 
> > > IS "bad".  And it's not holy either.
> > > 
> > > If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that 
>is 
> > > precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
> > > 
> > > Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
> > > financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in 
> order 
> > >to 
> > > confirm whether it's true.  
> > > 
> > > Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great 
>to 
> > >be 
> > > proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  If 
> so, 
> > > what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against 
>Girish 
> > >et. 
> > > al. that have been made here?
> > > 


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
> > University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ 
> > savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit 
> slip 
> > from my current account.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > "The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please 
> > send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit 
> required 
> > to make a repair appointment this summer.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for 
> our 
> > country, and for creating a more perfect world.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious 
> > work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level 
>you 
> > can, and thank you in advance for your support.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent 
>generosity...
> > There has never been so much given to this community for so 
>little 
> > cost."
> >
> 
> ??
> 
> What does the above have to do with anything?
> 
> Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here?  Did 
>I 
> not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you do 
>it 
> risking your own physical safety?  Did I not read here that a donor 
> who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that the 
> money was "lost" in transit?
> 

 What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in this 
 conversation??
>

Oh Dear Shemp, may be it is their cry of wolf too much.  But it may 
be up they are up against it.  You know, a lot of money over the dam 
and under the bridge.  They might be up against it with people like 
you and the Kaplans wanting an accounting and all.  

Hey,I was hoping that betwx the two of us may be we could come up 
with a hundred dollars of shingles to fix the roof.  I already gave a 
hundred dollars to the roof last week when the letter first came 
out.  May be if you would match me,  then between the two of us there 
could be a hundred dollars of shingles.  Who knows?  May be that is 
part of the problem.

A lot of people have voted with their feet.  I mean,now come show 
your faith, belief, or experience?  How about a hundred bucks, from 
FFL?

Your Friend,
JGD, Gov Doug fra FF

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/5/2007 11:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
> Dear Doug,
 
Did you see her? Mother Meera. What was your experience if you did. I will  
be seeing her in the New York area for the first time on May 20th and 21st. 
Love  and Light. Lou Valentino

 
 
 
If you want to visit FF, a lot of FF people are in Chicago this weekend  
and next, seeing Mother Meera there in Oak Park.

I stopped by on  Friday there and the parking garage was full of 
Jefferson County Iowa  cars. Lots gathering there and more expected for 
the weekend after  work.

In the Oak Park restaurants afterwards in the evenings too with  FF 
folks. Very fun pilgrimage for the FF meditating  community.

Mother Meera:
_http://www.mmdarshahttp://wwhttp_ (http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/) 

Chicago  Program:
_http://www.mothermehttp://wwwhttp://www.mhtt_ 
(http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp) 

-Gov  Doug,FF


 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

[dhamiltony2k5]

If you want to visit FF, a lot of FF people are in Chicago this weekend 
and next, seeing Mother Meera there in Oak Park.

I stopped by on Friday there and the parking garage was full of 
Jefferson County Iowa cars.  Lots gathering there and more expected for 
the weekend after work.

In the Oak Park restaurants afterwards in the evenings too with FF 
folks.  Very fun pilgrimage for the FF meditating community.


Mother Meera:
http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/

Chicago Program:
http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp

-Gov Doug,FF

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 
> > Attempts to amass money is not "bad".
> > 
> > Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a 
> >non-
> > profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains 
> > IS "bad".  And it's not holy either.
> > 
> > If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is 
> > precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
> > 
> > Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
> > financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in 
order 
> >to 
> > confirm whether it's true.  
> > 
> > Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to 
> >be 
> > proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  If 
so, 
> > what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against Girish 
> >et. 
> > al. that have been made here?
> > 
> 
> 
> For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
> University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ 
> savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit 
slip 
> from my current account.
> 
> ...
> 
> "The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please 
> send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit 
required 
> to make a repair appointment this summer.
> 
> ...
> 
> They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for 
our 
> country, and for creating a more perfect world.
> 
> ...
> 
> Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious 
> work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level you 
> can, and thank you in advance for your support.
> 
> ...
> 
> Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity...
> There has never been so much given to this community for so little 
> cost."
>

??

What does the above have to do with anything?

Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here?  Did I 
not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you do it 
risking your own physical safety?  Did I not read here that a donor 
who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that the 
money was "lost" in transit?

What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in this 
conversation??

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[dhamiltony2k5]

> 
> Attempts to amass money is not "bad".
> 
> Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a 
>non-
> profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains 
> IS "bad".  And it's not holy either.
> 
> If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is 
> precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
> 
> Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
> financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order 
>to 
> confirm whether it's true.  
> 
> Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to 
>be 
> proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  If so, 
> what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against Girish 
>et. 
> al. that have been made here?
> 


For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ 
savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit slip 
from my current account.

...

"The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please 
send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit required 
to make a repair appointment this summer.

...

They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for our 
country, and for creating a more perfect world.

...

Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious 
work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level you 
can, and thank you in advance for your support.

...

Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity...
There has never been so much given to this community for so little 
cost."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX

[off_world_beings]

Lol, Dr. Pete's a crazy psychiatrist. He has no expertise in this 
area.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  
>
>  Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe.
>
>  Fructo-OligoSaccharide.
>
>  Galacto-OligoSaccharide.
>
>  Sucralose
>
>  MaltoDextrin.
>
>  Are these Vedic foods.??  Would Maharishi approve of these 
Sweeteners.?
>
>  I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo-
Saccharide.
>
> 
>  
> -
> TV dinner still cooling?
> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Best source for info on supplements (Fructo-Oligosaccharides, etc).

[shukra69]

you can get vegan DHA now that comes straight from the algae

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IMO, Life Extension Foundation:
> http://www.lef.org
> The most popular Fructo-Oligosaccharide is simply "FOS", 
> perfectly safe.
>  My favorite suppliers for supplements:
> Swanson's Health Foods in Fargo, ND , and
> Vitacost
> in Florida.
> 
> In regard to brain nutrients, I assume that everybody reading this is 
> taking their DHA which may be obtained from fish oil. (a 
> significant   part of the brain is made up of DHA).
> 
> To maximize the benefits of DHA, this should be taken along with PS, 
> Phosphatidylserice.
> 
> But there are three "phosphatidyl's" of importance:
> 1. PS
> 2. PC (PhosphatidylCholine
> 3. GPC: GlyceroPhospoCholine
> 
> Information on these important brain nutrients may be found  at
> http://www.phospholipidsonline.com
> 
> Also, I'm mentioning these nutrients since there are many supplements 
> of value that are not "Vedic".
> Some are Vedic but have Western names, for example, Gojij, a powerful 
> red/orange berry that grows in the Himalayas.
>

[FairfieldLife] Best source for info on supplements (Fructo-Oligosaccharides, etc).

[matrixmonitor]

IMO, Life Extension Foundation:
http://www.lef.org
The most popular Fructo-Oligosaccharide is simply "FOS", 
perfectly safe.
 My favorite suppliers for supplements:
Swanson's Health Foods in Fargo, ND , and
Vitacost
in Florida.

In regard to brain nutrients, I assume that everybody reading this is 
taking their DHA which may be obtained from fish oil. (a 
significant   part of the brain is made up of DHA).

To maximize the benefits of DHA, this should be taken along with PS, 
Phosphatidylserice.

But there are three "phosphatidyl's" of importance:
1. PS
2. PC (PhosphatidylCholine
3. GPC: GlyceroPhospoCholine

Information on these important brain nutrients may be found  at
http://www.phospholipidsonline.com

Also, I'm mentioning these nutrients since there are many supplements 
of value that are not "Vedic".
Some are Vedic but have Western names, for example, Gojij, a powerful 
red/orange berry that grows in the Himalayas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
> >
> > the joy of drinking...
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
> 
> Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well-
> written review makes me want to order the book.
> 
> The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. 

Nice. One of the coolest, hottest places I remember though I was only 
there a handful of times was the Hong Kong cafe in Paramaribo, 
Surinam. A town on the equator carved out of the Amazon jungle, 
blazing hot. The bar was on the second floor of a building, with a big 
shaded veranda for sitting and watching the mostly indoors town during 
the hot afternoon. Used to sit there while drinking ice cold liters of 
dutch beer, watching the few people on the street braving the sun. 
Walking in the heat after that was pretty trippy, with heat radiating 
up off the street and the ground-- palm trees, scrub grass, and the 
jungle canopy always on any horizon. The colors of everything 
intensified by the equatorial light, and always feeling submerged in 
the thickness of the heat.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:39 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> the joy of drinking...
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html


The "social lubricants" of human society such as 
aloohol have been around as long as there have 
been humans, and thus are an important part of
the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave 
men* found ways to distill plants and get high. 
Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung 
up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the 
earliest humans carried with them the chimps' 
inherent desire to "get high," to shift their 
state of attention.

See http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/51357/

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the joy of drinking...
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html

Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well-
written review makes me want to order the book.

The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. 
Honestly, I really don't drink that much -- too
fuckin' old to get away with it -- but I really
do appreciate a good bar. I'm a fan of the Bars
With Ambiance Of Their Own. It doesn't have to
be a classy, upscale, designer-Buddhist ambiance,
like the Buddhabars in Paris and in Barcelona.
Obviously. I blew out of the Nirvana bar in Sitges
within minutes. By comparison, the Bar Pay Pay 
down the block is tacky to the max. But it's got 
soul, man. One feels good sitting here and watching 
the passersby. One has cool conversations here, and 
has them consistently. What more can one ask of a 
bar?

The "social lubricants" of human society such as 
aloohol have been around as long as there have 
been humans, and thus are an important part of
the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave 
men* found ways to distill plants and get high. 
Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung 
up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the 
earliest humans carried with them the chimps' 
inherent desire to "get high," to shift their 
state of attention.

In the absence of technologies such as meditation,
bars are where humans go to shift their state of
attention. Most of the humans on this planet are
unaware of technologies such as meditation. There-
fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's 
where you would go if you were a seeker who had
found no other way to shift your state of attention.

The best bar I've ever had the privilege of 
sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows
On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif-
icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been
in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may
be a stretch for those still attached to the puri-
tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, 
the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the
time I was going there. But, it's also the kind
of brothel where you might run into the Stones 
at the bar, or politicians from major countries
of the world. It's a real trip.

It's also a visual treat. The bar was decorated,
rather well, with authentic Asian art. I'm some-
what of a collector of Asian Art, and can only
drool over some of the pieces they have on display
there. In a brothel. Go figure. 

And in that bar/brothel I have had some of the 
highest conversations I have had on planet Earth. 
Again, go figure. 

And then there was the Nirvana bar, tonight. All 
flash, no substance. There is an actual silence 
that underlies Yab Yum, and that underlies the Bar
Pay-Pay as I write this that is sorely missing 
from Nirvana. Go figure.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've
> > decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme
> > tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of 
> > those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated.
> > 
> > I had been looking forward to kicking back in the
> > environment the ads proclaimed as "Sitges' Best
> > Chillout Bar," surrounded by Buddhas and drinks
> > with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo.
> > It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young
> > upscale Spanish youth longing to "chillout," as 
> > the ads had invited them to do, but somehow 
> > lacking the knack. 
> > 
> > So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress
> > With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here
> > tonight, so I might just be able to write a little
> > something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there.
> > 
> > Nope. Not a damned thing.
> > 
> > Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual 
> > goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? 
> > You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing 
> > weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on 
> > slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like
> > that you finally "reach" Nirvana...and it's like 
> > the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up 
> > people who came there looking to chill but who never 
> > quite mastered it? Bummer.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

[bob_brigante]

the joy of drinking...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've
> decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme
> tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of 
> those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated.
> 
> I had been looking forward to kicking back in the
> environment the ads proclaimed as "Sitges' Best
> Chillout Bar," surrounded by Buddhas and drinks
> with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo.
> It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young
> upscale Spanish youth longing to "chillout," as 
> the ads had invited them to do, but somehow 
> lacking the knack. 
> 
> So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress
> With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here
> tonight, so I might just be able to write a little
> something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there.
> 
> Nope. Not a damned thing.
> 
> Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual 
> goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? 
> You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing 
> weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on 
> slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like
> that you finally "reach" Nirvana...and it's like 
> the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up 
> people who came there looking to chill but who never 
> quite mastered it? Bummer.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deadly tornado hits Kansas

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6628613.stm
> 
> anywhere near Central Uni???
>


*

Nah, CU is in the north near the NE border, Greensberg is close to the 
OK border in the south:

http://tinyurl.com/ckqgv

[FairfieldLife] de Herrera interview

[bob_brigante]

"You know, David Lynch, he was taught in March of 1972 and he has never 
missed a meditation. Isn't that amazing?

I'll bet there are a lot of people in the Hollywood scene who do 
meditation.

I have to tell you one little thing about David, because I love him 
dearly. I was going through an old address book, the kind where you 
push a button and this little piece of paper fell out and it was a 
little note from Helen Lutes whose husband used to be the head of 
Maharishi's organization for years and she said on this, "If you need 
somebody who does carpentry and a little painting, there is this young 
man who lives in a garage around the corner from me and his name is 
David Lynch." I've shown that to David.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Transcendental_Meditation/

message 1564
(requires membership)

[FairfieldLife] Nirvana

[TurquoiseB]

I was going to write tonight from Nirvana, but I've
decided against it. I was there earlier and lemme
tell you...no matter what you've heard in all of 
those spiritual books, Nirvana is *way* overrated.

I had been looking forward to kicking back in the
environment the ads proclaimed as "Sitges' Best
Chillout Bar," surrounded by Buddhas and drinks
with little floating lotuses in them, but Noo.
It turned out to be a tightass bar, full of young
upscale Spanish youth longing to "chillout," as 
the ads had invited them to do, but somehow 
lacking the knack. 

So I moved back to the Bar Pay-Pay. The Waitress
With The Legs Designed In Brahmaloka is not here
tonight, so I might just be able to write a little
something about Nirvana, even if I'm not there.

Nope. Not a damned thing.

Wouldn't it be a kick if Nirvana the spiritual 
goal turned out to be a lot like Nirvana the bar? 
You struggle and struggle for lifetimes, performing 
weirdass sadhanas like bouncing on your butt on 
slabs of foam, and after eons of Class-A tapas like
that you finally "reach" Nirvana...and it's like 
the bar of the same name in Sitges? Full of stuck-up 
people who came there looking to chill but who never 
quite mastered it? Bummer. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[george_deforest]

>> So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints 
>> should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass 
>> money is "bad" is a strange perspective to say the least.
> 
> And curiously widespread. If God is unmanifest and manifest,
> money surely will be a part of HE/SHE/IT.

i quite agree, even in Hindu mythology, wealth is merely the
blessings of Goddess Lakshmi.

However, the Western spiritual history developed a very different
traditional outlook, saying that wealth is a hindrance and poverty
is a path to more perfect spirituality.

this is how the West has viewed it:

The "Counsels of Perfection" are chastity, poverty and obedience
(cf. canons 599-601). Religious vows of keeping the councils were
first taken by St. Francis of Assisi and his followers. They were the
first of the mendicant orders. These vows are taken now by all
Catholic religious communities founded since the twelveth century.

These counsels have been analyzed as a way to keep the world from
distracting the soul, on the grounds that the principal good things of
this world easily divide themselves into three classes. There are the
riches which make life easy and pleasant, there are the pleasures of
the flesh which appeal to the appetites, and, lastly, there are 
honours and positions of authority which delight the self-love of the
individual. These three matters, in themselves often innocent and not
forbidden to the devout Christian, may yet, even when no kind of sin
is involved, hold back the soul from its true aim and vocation, and
delay it from becoming entirely conformed to the will of God. It is,
therefore, the object of the three counsels of perfection to free the
soul from these hindrances. The love of riches is opposed by the
counsel of poverty; the pleasures of the flesh, even the lawful
pleasures of holy matrimony, are excluded by the counsel of chastity;
while the desire for worldly power and honour is met by the counsel of
holy obedience. 

Abstinence from unlawful indulgence in any of these directions is
forbidden to all Christians as a matter of precept. The further
voluntary abstinence from what is in itself lawful is the subject of
the counsels, and such abstinence is not in itself meritorious, but
only becomes so when it is done for the sake of Christ, and in order
to be more free to serve Him.

taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_counsels

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[nablusoss1008]

> 
> Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus 
> absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture 
> make.  It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is 
> occuring in this instance.  But the fact that relatives are running 
> the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more 
> vital.
> 
> Do you not agree?

Apparently Amma disagreed

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[nablusoss1008]

> > 
> > I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from 
> > Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And 
> why 
> > shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is 
> a 
> > boon from the Gods. 
> > Those who object to the money and all that are the same people 
who 
> > would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the 
> > dollars. 
> > I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating.
> 
> Yep, "worldly money good, holy money bad". What's up with that? 
> There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru 
> Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect 
of 
> God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints 
> should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass 
> money is "bad" is a strange perspective to say the least.

And curiously widespread. If God is unmanifest and manifest, money 
surely will be a part of HE/SHE/IT.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
>  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He
> > > > > > may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who
> > > > > > knows?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks 
> like 
> > > some 
> > > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
> picture 
> > > sans 
> > > > the 
> > > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
> > poster 
> > > here 
> > > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > > projection.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous.
> > > > 
> > > > But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him 
> beside 
> > > a 
> > > > photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed 
> > > Western 
> > > > cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most 
> definitely 
> > > creepy 
> > > > and Ghoulish.
> > > >
> > > If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation 
> and 
> > > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
> felt 
> > > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk 
> to 
> > > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
> > yeah, 
> > > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd 
move 
> > on, 
> > > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell 
> me 
> > > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. 
So 
> > > really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. 
I 
> > > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> > >
> > 
> > What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the 
> one 
> > where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, 
> is 
> > sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev 
> painting 
> > behind him?
> >
> Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a 
> guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am 
> interested in meeting...

All these people whining about Girish clothing traditionally 
obviously has not been in India for a long time. All the upp and 
coming young people, specially from priviledged backgrounds now 
increasingly dress traditionally. Only their fathers wear western 
dresses these days. You see this more and more often, especially at 
very expensive hotels in Delhi and Mumbai.

[FairfieldLife] Tm and the blind

[Stu]

Questions.

If a blind person takes TM how are they supposed to follow the
directions exactly?

Close the eyes. Open the eyes.

Seems like they are going to have to skip directions.  Does this mean
they are not getting the full benefit from TM?

Or would it be possible for us sighted people to fudge the rules a bit
and still get the full benefit?

s.

[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)

[Stu]

That one did get away from me.  

Thanks Unc.

s.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Morning all,
>
> I am disabled (blind) so am not sure how I can rack how many posts I
respond too so I do not break your rules here anyone go many ideas how I
can track these?

I assume you are using some sort of special devise for the
vision-impaired that enables you to hear (or feel, through Braille) the
text that comes over the internet into your computer.  As such, your
computer monitor is sitting there not being used.  Since it is serving
no useful purpose, I suggest that you put it to use as a sort of tote
board in order to keep track of your posts.  The smooth surface of its
screen combined with the extra-sensitive sense of "touch" blind people
develop through their experience with Braille will come in handy in this
regard.

Here's what you do: take a sharp, hard object like a rock or a piece of
gravel from your driveway.   Every time you make a post to
FairFieldLife, scratch a notch onto the surface of the monitor and --
Voila! -- you've got a tally sheet sitting conveniently right there in
front of you on your desktop that you can easily run your fingers across
in order to determine how many posts you've made.

It should look something like this:

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock  
> wrote:
> >
> > My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are 
> > audited are 'Cooked up'.
> >
> > 'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india 
> > because of decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes.
> >
> > He says that Money is brought into india in the form of 
> > Gold and It directly goes to the two Nephews.
> 
> 
> I wonder, then, if there is such a thing as an 
> international "forensic auditor"; that is, a CPA-type 
> professional that can cut through the quirks of a 
> particular culture's "tricks" in order to get at the 
> heart of what's going on financially in circumstances 
> such as this.


If there were (thinking William Gibson-ish here
for a moment), wouldn't it be likely that they
would make more money by going to the rich cats
and offering to *not* practice their art, for a
price, than they might make by practicing it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  
>  My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are 
audited are 'Cooked up'.
>
>  'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india 
because of decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes.
>
>   He says that Money is brought into india in the form of Gold 
> and It directly goes to the two Nephews.



I wonder, then, if there is such a thing as an 
international "forensic auditor"; that is, a CPA-type professional 
that can cut through the quirks of a particular culture's "tricks" in 
order to get at the heart of what's going on financially in 
circumstances such as this.




> 
> ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 17:15:43 -
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
> 
>
>   Attempts to amass money is not "bad".
> 
> Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non-
> profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains 
> IS "bad". And it's not holy either.
> 
> If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is 
> precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
> 
> Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited 
> financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order 
to 
> confirm whether it's true. 
> 
> Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to 
be 
> proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, 
> what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. 
> al. that have been made here?
> 
> One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of 
> non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who 
> appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control 
> over such monies.
> 
> Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money 
plus 
> absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture 
> make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is 
> occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running 
> the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more 
> vital.
> 
> Do you not agree?
>
>
> 
>
> -
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
>  Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
snip
> 
> I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here
> might find it interesting, too. 

A real gem.  Saw it twice.

lurk
>

[FairfieldLife] Deadly tornado hits Kansas

[claudiouk]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6628613.stm

anywhere near Central Uni???

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
  
>  Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe.
>
>  Fructo-OligoSaccharide.
>  Galacto-OligoSaccharide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligosaccharide

These aren't artificial; they're substances
found in plants. They're not only safe but
can be beneficial by nurturing friendly
bacteria in the intestinal tract.
  
>  Sucralose

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose

This is definitely artificial. There's a
detailed discussion about its safety on
this page. Concerns are theoretical and
anecdotal, not based on experiment.
   
>  MaltoDextrin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltodextrin

This is made from starch, so it isn't really
artificial either. No known safety concerns,
but it can aggravate celiac disease if it's
made from starch from wheat or barley. It's
used primarily as a thickening agent, not a
sweetener, although it's mildly sweet.

>  Are these Vedic foods.??  Would Maharishi approve of these 
Sweeteners.?

Almost certainly he wouldn't approve of sucralose,
nor is it "Vedic," since it was developed only
recently. Ayurveda generally prefers fresh,
unprocessed food, so maltodextrin would probably
not be on the approved list.

>  I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo-
Saccharide.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[Jason Spock]

 
 My TM-tutor says that all documents even the ones that are audited are 
'Cooked up'.
   
 'Cooking the book', is practiced in an Art form in india because of 
decades of Socialism and high rate of Taxes.
   
  He says that Money is brought into india in the form of Gold and It 
directly goes to the two Nephews.

ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 17:15:43 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

   
  Attempts to amass money is not "bad".

Taking money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non-
profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains 
IS "bad". And it's not holy either.

If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is 
precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.

Is it true? I don't know. I've never seen formally audited 
financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to 
confirm whether it's true. 

Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be 
proven wrong. But I ask: Do such audited documents exist? If so, 
what do they say? Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. 
al. that have been made here?

One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of 
non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who 
appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control 
over such monies.

Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus 
absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture 
make. It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is 
occuring in this instance. But the fact that relatives are running 
the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more 
vital.

Do you not agree?
   
   

   
-
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
 Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[FairfieldLife] Re: El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)

[Marek Reavis]

Thanks, Turq, I'll get it and watch it.  Even though I read the good
reviews about it (and they were all unfailingly positive), I never got
around to checking it out.  Your recommendation has pushed me over the
edge.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> I downloaded this film some time ago, but never got around
> to watching it until last night. I think that subconsciously
> I was waiting to watch it near the area in which it was filmed,
> and in which the story takes place. 
> 
> It's Spain, 1944. The revolution is over, and Franco's troops
> have won. Outposts have been created at the various frontiers
> to fight against the still-active anti-Fascists. And into one
> of these outposts is brought Ofelia (the real star of the movie,
> a young actress to watch), the stepdaughter-against-her-will to 
> a sadistic Fascist Captain (Sergi Lopez, in a fine but unsympa-
> thetic performance), whom her mother has married because he 
> knocked her up and wants his unborn son more than he wants 
> anything else in his life. And, of course, he pays for things 
> like food and clothing, stuff that she'd otherwise have little 
> access to in Franco's Spain, since her husband (Ofelia's father) 
> was killed in the revolution as a traitor to the Franco forces. 
> 
> Gnarly situation. Ofelia deals with it the way she deals with
> other gnarly situations, by retreating into an inner world
> that only she can see. This world is full of fairies and laby-
> rinths and fauns and giant frogs and menacing quasihuman beasts
> with their eyes in the palms of their hands. In this inner 
> world she is a Princess of the realm, someone who had lost her
> way in a previous incarnation and become trapped in the gnarly
> world of Fascist Spain. All she has to do to return to the 
> world that she originally came from is to accomplish three
> dangerous tasks, before the moon becomes full. 
> 
> This is such a marvelous movie, in so many ways, that I can't
> really go into it here. Seamless special effects make Ofelia's 
> world bloom as accurately for her as it does for us. There 
> is great acting not only from the aforementioned Ivana Baquero,
> who plays Ofelia, and Sergi Lopez, but one of Ofelia's few 
> friends in the Fascist outpost is played by Maribel Verdú, the
> radiant and very talented star of "Y tu mama tambien." She is
> in a way the heroic counterpart in the "real" world of Ofelia
> in her world.
> 
> One of the things that I find most interesting about this film,
> and one of the main reasons I'm writing about it to Fairfield
> Life, is the sheer consistency of one trend in the reviews of
> this film I saw in the press. Many critics loved it; I first 
> discovered the film because it wound up on so many critics' 
> Ten Best of 2006 lists. But almost without exception, each 
> of those critics refers to Ofelia's world as "imaginary," 
> the unreal place that she retreats into to escape the 
> horror of her everyday reality.
> 
> I find that very interesting, because I saw the entire film --
> both the shock of Franco's Spain and the beauty/awe of Ofelia's
> world -- as equal partners in a very real visionscape. I saw
> the whole film as mythic, and what the critics saw as Ofelia's
> retreats into fantasy I saw as merely a psychic twostep into 
> another dimension, a separate reality, a parallel universe, 
> to which she alone has access because she alone can see it. 
> 
> I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here
> might find it interesting, too. Marek in particular (I think 
> it was you I had the short conversation with about simultaneous
> incarnations) might like it. Just think of Ofelia as bouncing 
> back and forth between two simultaneous incarnation-streams, 
> trying to make sense of the simultaneity of it all.
> 
> If you do watch it, the countryside it's filmed in looks a lot
> like where I am right now, in Catalunya. That kind of rocky,
> rugged, rolling countryside, but in my case ending at a beach. 
> Think Big Sur, except that they speak Catalan and Spanish here. 
> That and there are fewer "So you want lipo with that pina 
> colada" bars in Big Sur. But in Big Sur they make the women 
> wear the top parts of their bathing suits, so that kinda 
> speaks for itself, doesn't it?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> >  > > > 
> > > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks 
> like 
> > > some 
> > > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
> picture 
> > > sans 
> > > > the 
> > > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
> > poster 
> > > here 
> > > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > > projection.
> > > > >
> > >> >
> > > If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation 
> and 
> > > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
> felt 
> > > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk 
> to 
> > > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
> > yeah, 
> > > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd 
move 
> > on, 
> > > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell 
> me 
> > > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. 
So 
> > > really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. 
I 
> > > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> > 
> > I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from 
> > Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And 
> why 
> > shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is 
> a 
> > boon from the Gods. 
> > Those who object to the money and all that are the same people 
who 
> > would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the 
> > dollars. 
> > I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating.
> 
> Yep, "worldly money good, holy money bad". What's up with that? 
> There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru 
> Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect 
of 
> God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints 
> should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass 
> money is "bad" is a strange perspective to say the least.
>

Attempts to amass money is not "bad".

Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of a non-
profit organisation and then using it for your own personal gains 
IS "bad".  And it's not holy either.

If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that is 
precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.

Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in order to 
confirm whether it's true.  

Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great to be 
proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  If so, 
what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against Girish et. 
al. that have been made here?

One thing that is NOT acceptable to me: leaders and figureheads of 
non-profit organisations that solicit and accept donor money who 
appoint blood relatives to positions of administration and control 
over such monies.

Appointed relatives in position of power and control over money plus 
absense of audited financial statements does not a pretty picture 
make.  It doesn't necessarily mean that fraud and misuse of funds is 
occuring in this instance.  But the fact that relatives are running 
the show makes the need for independent oversight all the much more 
vital.

Do you not agree?

[FairfieldLife] Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX

[Jason Spock]

 
   
 Would you tell us if these Artificial Sweeteners are safe.
   
 Fructo-OligoSaccharide.
   
 Galacto-OligoSaccharide.
   
 Sucralose
   
 MaltoDextrin.
   
 Are these Vedic foods.??  Would Maharishi approve of these Sweeteners.?
   
 I am not able to get much insights on Google on these Oligo-Saccharide.
   

 
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[FairfieldLife] El Laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth)

[TurquoiseB]

I downloaded this film some time ago, but never got around
to watching it until last night. I think that subconsciously
I was waiting to watch it near the area in which it was filmed,
and in which the story takes place. 

It's Spain, 1944. The revolution is over, and Franco's troops
have won. Outposts have been created at the various frontiers
to fight against the still-active anti-Fascists. And into one
of these outposts is brought Ofelia (the real star of the movie,
a young actress to watch), the stepdaughter-against-her-will to 
a sadistic Fascist Captain (Sergi Lopez, in a fine but unsympa-
thetic performance), whom her mother has married because he 
knocked her up and wants his unborn son more than he wants 
anything else in his life. And, of course, he pays for things 
like food and clothing, stuff that she'd otherwise have little 
access to in Franco's Spain, since her husband (Ofelia's father) 
was killed in the revolution as a traitor to the Franco forces. 

Gnarly situation. Ofelia deals with it the way she deals with
other gnarly situations, by retreating into an inner world
that only she can see. This world is full of fairies and laby-
rinths and fauns and giant frogs and menacing quasihuman beasts
with their eyes in the palms of their hands. In this inner 
world she is a Princess of the realm, someone who had lost her
way in a previous incarnation and become trapped in the gnarly
world of Fascist Spain. All she has to do to return to the 
world that she originally came from is to accomplish three
dangerous tasks, before the moon becomes full. 

This is such a marvelous movie, in so many ways, that I can't
really go into it here. Seamless special effects make Ofelia's 
world bloom as accurately for her as it does for us. There 
is great acting not only from the aforementioned Ivana Baquero,
who plays Ofelia, and Sergi Lopez, but one of Ofelia's few 
friends in the Fascist outpost is played by Maribel Verdú, the
radiant and very talented star of "Y tu mama tambien." She is
in a way the heroic counterpart in the "real" world of Ofelia
in her world.

One of the things that I find most interesting about this film,
and one of the main reasons I'm writing about it to Fairfield
Life, is the sheer consistency of one trend in the reviews of
this film I saw in the press. Many critics loved it; I first 
discovered the film because it wound up on so many critics' 
Ten Best of 2006 lists. But almost without exception, each 
of those critics refers to Ofelia's world as "imaginary," 
the unreal place that she retreats into to escape the 
horror of her everyday reality.

I find that very interesting, because I saw the entire film --
both the shock of Franco's Spain and the beauty/awe of Ofelia's
world -- as equal partners in a very real visionscape. I saw
the whole film as mythic, and what the critics saw as Ofelia's
retreats into fantasy I saw as merely a psychic twostep into 
another dimension, a separate reality, a parallel universe, 
to which she alone has access because she alone can see it. 

I think this is a *marvelous* film, and suspect that many here
might find it interesting, too. Marek in particular (I think 
it was you I had the short conversation with about simultaneous
incarnations) might like it. Just think of Ofelia as bouncing 
back and forth between two simultaneous incarnation-streams, 
trying to make sense of the simultaneity of it all.

If you do watch it, the countryside it's filmed in looks a lot
like where I am right now, in Catalunya. That kind of rocky,
rugged, rolling countryside, but in my case ending at a beach. 
Think Big Sur, except that they speak Catalan and Spanish here. 
That and there are fewer "So you want lipo with that pina 
colada" bars in Big Sur. But in Big Sur they make the women 
wear the top parts of their bathing suits, so that kinda 
speaks for itself, doesn't it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?

[Jason Spock]

 
 Tell us something about Tien Tai.
   
 Yes, the body-mind is a bunch of 'components'.  But the mind does NOT 
trans-migrate or reincarnate.
   
 It's your astral body which is a bundle of Vibrations and Latent 
tendencies which re-incarnate and which is what you call your soul.
   
  The Notion of 'Past lives' is something that is based upon the various 
bodies you choose to manifest yourself.  Past lives is from the material, 
biological angle.
   
   From the Astral, Vibratory Plane, past-lives are aggregates of the 
relative self continually changing.  Both are correct.
   
   So, I don't see much of a difference between the Hindu and Buddhist 
World-View regarding this aspect.

qntmpkt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 19:23:41 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
   
   
  ---Comment below: ...that Hinduism is the only religion that reflects 
Nature to it's fullest possible extent. Actually, Buddhism is more 
consistent with the most up-to-date hypotheses concerning Cosmology - 
i.e. the origins of the universe itself; along with speculations on 
the major unanswered questions.
Briefly, the universe appears to be holographic; and Buddhism had 
the rudiments of holography in the works of Tien Tai. Thus, Buddhist 
cosmology was about 1500 years ahead of modern hypotheses.
In regard to the nature of the relative self; I regard Buddhism as 
being superior to Hinduism on the basis of my observations on the 
body/mind; namely, the body/mind is a bunch "components" rather than 
a reincarnating "Soul". Thus, from one incarnation to the next, the 
relative self is continually changing and it would not be correct to 
say that "one" had past lives. (the past lives were simply aggregates 
of components, some of which carry over into the present.) The part 
of the mind/brain which records the latent memories is (in itself) 
just another component.

In regard to ethics, Buddhism attempts to explain this by intially, 
fusing the concept with the Laws of Karma and Dharma. 

Co  Jason Spock  wrote:

> Sorry for the delayed response. I agree with you. MMY's 
version certainly has more depth.
> 
> True religion should reflect Nature. Hinduism is the only 
religion that reflects Nature to it's fullest possible extent.
> 
> The concept of Ethics is Universal. It does not change with 
time. Unfortunately the Indian Gov't does NOT give any importance or 
seriousness to the teaching of Ethics in Indian schools. Also no 
importance is given to Hygiene and sanitation. Both subjects should 
be taught in all schools all over the World.
> 
   
   

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows

[Jason Spock]

 
   
  Friend, Have you forgotten, The West Looted, Ravaged and Milked the 
Eastern World for over 300 years.??

gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows
   
   
   You milk westerners.

--- ShempMcGurk  wrote:

> INDIAN CORPORATION
> 
> You have two cows.
> Indian bureaucracy makes it impossible to open a
> business and sell 
> milk.
> You emigrate.
> You become enormously successful like all Indians do
> once they leave 
> India.
> You buy as many cows as you want.
> 
> 
> ---  Jason Spock  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > A Midwesterner' s political Primer
> > 
> > DEMOCRATIC
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Your neighbor has none.
> > You feel guilty for being successful.
> > Barbra Streisand sings for you.
> > 
> > REPUBLICAN
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Your neighbor has none.
> > So?
> > 
> > SOCIALIST
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > The government takes one and gives it to your
> neighbor.
> > You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage
> his cow.
> > 
> > COMMUNIST
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > The government seizes both and provides you with
> milk.
> > You wait in line for hours to get it.
> > It is expensive and sour.
> > 
> > CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of
> cows.
> > 
> > BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Under the new farm program the government pays you
> to shoot one, 
> milk the other, and then pours the milk down the
> drain.
> > 
> > AMERICAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an
> IPO on the 2nd 
> one.
> > You force the two cows to produce the milk of four
> cows. You are 
> surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an
> announcement to the 
> analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing
> expenses.
> > Your stock goes up.
> > 
> > FRENCH CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You go on strike because you want three cows.
> > You go to lunch and drink wine.
> > Life is good.
> > 
> > JAPANESE CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size
> of an ordinary cow 
> and produce twenty times the milk.
> > They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded
> trains.
> > Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
> > 
> > GERMAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You engineer them so they are all blond, drink
> lots of beer, give 
> excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an
> hour.
> > Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of
> vacation per year.
> > 
> > ITALIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows but you don't know where they
> are.
> > While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
> > You break for lunch.
> > Life is good.
> > 
> > RUSSIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You have some vodka.
> > You count them and learn you have five cows.
> > You have some more vodka.
> > You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
> > The Mafia shows up and takes over however many
> cows you really have.
> > 
> > TALIBAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are
> two.
> > You don't milk them because you cannot touch any
> creature's private 
> parts.
> > You get a $40 million grant from the US government
> to find 
> alternatives to milk production but use the money to
> buy weapons.
> > 
> > IRAQI CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > They go into hiding.
> > They send audio tapes of their mooing.
> > 
> > POLISH CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two bulls.
> > Employees are regularly maimed and killed
> attempting to milk them.
> > 
> > BELGIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have one cow.
> > The cow is schizophrenic.
> > Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times
> he's Flemish.
> > The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
> > The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's
> milk.
> > The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
> > The cow dies happy.
> > 
> > FLORIDA CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have a black cow and a brown cow.
> > Everyone votes for the best looking one.
> > Some of the people who actually like the brown one
> best 
> accidentally vote for the black one.
> > Some people vote for both.
> > Some people vote for neither.
> > Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
> > Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell
> you which one you 
> think is the best-looking cow.
> > 
> > CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have millions of cows.
> > They make real California cheese.
> > Only five speak English.
> > Most are illegal.
> > Arnold likes the ones with the big udders.
> > 

   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm
> > 
> > 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove
> > 
> > Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century 
have  
> > been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-
central  
> > region.
> >
> I am just curious why they date the paintings just back to the 12th 
> century? I am thinking they could be much older.

At this point, I'd guess, it's stylistic, what
other 12th century Buddhist paintings looked like.
They may eventually do scientific testing of some
sort, but I doubt they've gotten to that yet (if
they had, they'd be more definite about the dating).

Notice that the story as "back *at least* to the
12th century," which seems to indicate they also
think the paintings could be older.

I wish there were more on the Web about the find!
They should create a Web site with lotsa photos and
detailed information.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm
> 
> 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
> 
> 
> 
> The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove
> 
> Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have  
> been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-central  
> region.
>
I am just curious why they date the paintings just back to the 12th 
century? I am thinking they could be much older. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm
> 
> 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
> 
> The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove
> 
> Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have  
> been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-central  
> region.

This is clearly a future Buddhist Movie Of The Week.

I mean, it's got Indiana Jones written all over it.
One of the team members has climbed Everest 7 times,
and says that this experience is cooler. There are
probably lawyers in Hollywood who are trying to 
option the story for their production companies 
as we speak.

Not that that's a bad thing. :-) Hey!, I'd *love* 
to see the movie of discovering this cave. A good
film crew would build the mystery slowly, as it 
built for the finders, and then they'd let them
see the Buddha paintings at the very end, and 
linger over them. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> >  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
> >  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He
> > > > > > > may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who
> > > > > > > knows?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just 
looks 
> > like 
> > > > some 
> > > > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
> > picture 
> > > > sans 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of 
a 
> > > poster 
> > > > here 
> > > > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > > > projection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is 
innoculous.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him 
> > beside 
> > > > a 
> > > > > photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-
eyed 
> > > > Western 
> > > > > cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most 
> > definitely 
> > > > creepy 
> > > > > and Ghoulish.
> > > > >
> > > > If I was in the room with them and could assess the 
situation 
> > and 
> > > > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
> > felt 
> > > > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd 
talk 
> > to 
> > > > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two 
pictures), 
> > > yeah, 
> > > > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd 
> move 
> > > on, 
> > > > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then 
tell 
> > me 
> > > > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an 
asshole...'. 
> So 
> > > > really hard to say what is going on there from just a 
picture. 
> I 
> > > > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, 
the 
> > one 
> > > where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like 
Maharishi, 
> > is 
> > > sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev 
> > painting 
> > > behind him?
> > >
> > Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of 
a 
> > guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am 
> > interested in meeting...
> >
> 
> Then why did you post on this subject in the first place?  You 
used 
> up one of your precious 5 posts on a subject you have zero 
interest 
> in?
>
The subject at the time wasn't Girish per se, rather it was that 
this guy was creepy or something, and I didn't see any creepiness 
looking at his face, and thought it was the association with 
Maharishi that was driving the perception of creepiness. I wasn't 
interested in Girish then either, just the possibility of a 
projected creepiness of him, due to his association with Maharishi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
>  > > > 
> > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks 
like 
> > some 
> > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
picture 
> > sans 
> > > the 
> > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
> poster 
> > here 
> > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > projection.
> > > >
> >> >
> > If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation 
and 
> > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
felt 
> > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk 
to 
> > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
> yeah, 
> > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move 
> on, 
> > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell 
me 
> > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So 
> > really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I 
> > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> 
> I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from 
> Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And 
why 
> shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is 
a 
> boon from the Gods. 
> Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who 
> would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the 
> dollars. 
> I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating.

Yep, "worldly money good, holy money bad". What's up with that? 
There's a great excerpt that bob brigante posted recently from Guru 
Dev where he talks about the uselessness of the unmanifest aspect of 
God. So to say that spiritual pursuits or the workings of Saints 
should be constrained because any attempts by the holy to amass 
money is "bad" is a strange perspective to say the least. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
>  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He
> > > > > > may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who
> > > > > > knows?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks 
> like 
> > > some 
> > > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
> picture 
> > > sans 
> > > > the 
> > > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
> > poster 
> > > here 
> > > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > > projection.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous.
> > > > 
> > > > But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him 
> beside 
> > > a 
> > > > photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed 
> > > Western 
> > > > cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most 
> definitely 
> > > creepy 
> > > > and Ghoulish.
> > > >
> > > If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation 
> and 
> > > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
> felt 
> > > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk 
> to 
> > > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
> > yeah, 
> > > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd 
move 
> > on, 
> > > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell 
> me 
> > > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. 
So 
> > > really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. 
I 
> > > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> > >
> > 
> > What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the 
> one 
> > where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, 
> is 
> > sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev 
> painting 
> > behind him?
> >
> Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a 
> guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am 
> interested in meeting...
>

Then why did you post on this subject in the first place?  You used 
up one of your precious 5 posts on a subject you have zero interest 
in?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:14 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting


[ Note to Rick: It might be nice to repost the 
monthly FAQ about common FFL acronyms, so that
Bug could let us know which ones are pronounced
in an understandable way and which are not. ]

He was sent that automatically when he joined.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In all fairness to Girish, does anybody know him? He
> > > > > may look creepy, but he could be a great guy. Who
> > > > > knows?
> > > > > 
> > > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks 
like 
> > some 
> > > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his 
picture 
> > sans 
> > > the 
> > > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
> poster 
> > here 
> > > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> > projection.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I agree that a photo just of Girish by himself is innoculous.
> > > 
> > > But a photo of Girish with a photo of Maharishi behind him 
beside 
> > a 
> > > photo of Girish of equal size and stature PLUS two wide-eyed 
> > Western 
> > > cult members rounding out the pretty picture is most 
definitely 
> > creepy 
> > > and Ghoulish.
> > >
> > If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation 
and 
> > talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it 
felt 
> > like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk 
to 
> > Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
> yeah, 
> > someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move 
> on, 
> > or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell 
me 
> > to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So 
> > really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I 
> > sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.
> >
> 
> What does your Spidey Sense tell you about the second photo, the 
one 
> where he's dressed up like Maharishi, has a beard like Maharishi, 
is 
> sitting on the dais just like Maharishi and has the Guru Dev 
painting 
> behind him?
>
Aren't we done with this yet? I didn't see the second picture of a 
guy in India I have zero interest in, have never met, nor am 
interested in meeting...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy.  
> There's highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so 
> you've been warned.

LOL. 

Welcome, Buggy. By the way, how did your software
translate the word before I said, "Welcome, Buggy?" 
I spelled out the letters L, O, and L, which is a 
well-known Internet acronym for Laughing Out Loud. 
I really would be interested in learning how your 
software "reads" it, and tries to pronounce it 
aloud. Heck, I'd be interested in hearing more 
about the software, period. 

[ Note to Rick: It might be nice to repost the 
monthly FAQ about common FFL acronyms, so that
Bug could let us know which ones are pronounced
in an understandable way and which are not. ]

What I am laughing out loud about, Bug, is Edg's 
description of Fairfield Life. Ne pretty much 
nails it. This forum really is a strange and 
interesting amalgam of yapping highwayman saints, 
a kind of cyberspace Mos Eisley Cantina. Welcome. 
Pull up a stool and tell us a little about yourself, 
and what drew you here.

Oh...one more thing. Let the Wookie win.

:-)

[ Smiley face above, to indicate attempted humor. 
How did the software pronounce that? Did it laugh? ]

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> wrote:
> >
> > On May 4, 2007, at 8:27 AM, new.morning wrote:
> > 
> > >> What I find interesting is that you have these two people --
> > >> Curtis and Judy -- each of whom have been doing TM regularly
> > >> for the past 35 years and yet one has a totally negative 
> > >> personality and the other has a totally positive personality.
> > >> Isn't it fascinating how TM can be done by people of all sorts
> > >> of political bents, world views, and attitudes and yet the
> > >> light of consciousness shines through in one and hardly 
> > >> manifests in the other.  Yet both meditate!
> > >>
> > >> I guess consciousness works in strange and wonderful ways 
> > >> and...uh, what's that you say?  WHAT?  You're saying Curtis
> > >> does NOT practise TM? What?  You say he hasn't done TM
> > >> regularly in more than 15 years?  Really?
> > >>
> > >> Gosh.
> > >>
> > >> Well, in the immortal words of Emily Litella: never mind.
> > >
> > >
> > > Its even more facsinating that an observer who has been 
> > > meditating a similar amount of time could see all things
> > > in such black and white absolutist terms.  A view that
> > > Judy is all negative and Curtis is all positive is quite
> > > a belly-laugh.
> 
> What's even funnier is that Shemp apparently
> believes he can see "the light of consciousness
> shining through."
> 
> > Actually he didn't say which he thought was the positive and
> > which the negative one  (I'm assuming this was deliberate).
> > Your view of which had to be which is pretty telling.
> 
> Actually it would have been difficult for Shemp to
> have made it any clearer without actually saying
> which he thought was which, so it isn't "telling"
> at all.
>

Even a chimpanzee from Mars on his first vist to earth could pretty
quickly figure out how Shemp feels about Judy. That Shemp's views --
both inherent and explicit in hundreds of past posts -- could be a
mystery to some is, well, "telling". 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

[authfriend]

This is just an *extraordinary* find. The parts of
the mural shown in the two photos that have been
released so far are glorious, incredibly graceful.

Besides the one at Vaj's BBC link (be sure to click
to see the enlarged detail), there's another photo
in the Times this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/33gkvj

The cave in which they were found is part of a
complex way up on a cliff; they had to use mountain-
climbing equipment to get to it.  How on earth did
the *Buddhists* get there back in the 12th century??
The archeologists think the cave complex had been
used as a teaching center.

Apparently the cave had been used at one point by
a snow leopard; they found its paw prints on the
floor of the cave. A local peasant clued them in.
He'd apparently gotten into the cave at one point
when he was a kid. Just remarkable.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm
> 
> 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
> 
> 
> 
> The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove
> 
> Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have  
> been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-
central  
> region.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 8:27 AM, new.morning wrote:
> 
> >> What I find interesting is that you have these two people --
> >> Curtis and Judy -- each of whom have been doing TM regularly
> >> for the past 35 years and yet one has a totally negative 
> >> personality and the other has a totally positive personality.
> >> Isn't it fascinating how TM can be done by people of all sorts
> >> of political bents, world views, and attitudes and yet the
> >> light of consciousness shines through in one and hardly 
> >> manifests in the other.  Yet both meditate!
> >>
> >> I guess consciousness works in strange and wonderful ways 
> >> and...uh, what's that you say?  WHAT?  You're saying Curtis
> >> does NOT practise TM? What?  You say he hasn't done TM
> >> regularly in more than 15 years?  Really?
> >>
> >> Gosh.
> >>
> >> Well, in the immortal words of Emily Litella: never mind.
> >
> >
> > Its even more facsinating that an observer who has been 
> > meditating a similar amount of time could see all things
> > in such black and white absolutist terms.  A view that
> > Judy is all negative and Curtis is all positive is quite
> > a belly-laugh.

What's even funnier is that Shemp apparently
believes he can see "the light of consciousness
shining through."

> Actually he didn't say which he thought was the positive and
> which the negative one  (I'm assuming this was deliberate).
> Your view of which had to be which is pretty telling.

Actually it would have been difficult for Shemp to
have made it any clearer without actually saying
which he thought was which, so it isn't "telling"
at all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale of Two Cows

[gullible fool]

> You buy as many cows as you want.

You milk westerners.

 --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> INDIAN CORPORATION
> 
> You have two cows.
> Indian bureaucracy makes it impossible to open a
> business and sell 
> milk.
> You emigrate.
> You become enormously successful like all Indians do
> once they leave 
> India.
> You buy as many cows as you want.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >  A Midwesterner's political Primer
> > 
> > DEMOCRATIC
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Your neighbor has none.
> > You feel guilty for being successful.
> > Barbra Streisand sings for you.
> > 
> > REPUBLICAN
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Your neighbor has none.
> > So?
> > 
> > SOCIALIST
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > The government takes one and gives it to your
> neighbor.
> > You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage
> his cow.
> > 
> > COMMUNIST
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > The government seizes both and provides you with
> milk.
> > You wait in line for hours to get it.
> > It is expensive and sour.
> > 
> > CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of
> cows.
> > 
> > BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > Under the new farm program the government pays you
> to shoot one, 
> milk the other, and then pours the milk down the
> drain.
> > 
> > AMERICAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an
> IPO on the 2nd 
> one.
> > You force the two cows to produce the milk of four
> cows. You are 
> surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an
> announcement to the 
> analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing
> expenses.
> > Your stock goes up.
> > 
> > FRENCH CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You go on strike because you want three cows.
> > You go to lunch and drink wine.
> > Life is good.
> > 
> > JAPANESE CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size
> of an ordinary cow 
> and produce twenty times the milk.
> > They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded
> trains.
> > Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
> > 
> > GERMAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You engineer them so they are all blond, drink
> lots of beer, give 
> excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an
> hour.
> > Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of
> vacation per year.
> > 
> > ITALIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows but you don't know where they
> are.
> > While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
> > You break for lunch.
> > Life is good.
> > 
> > RUSSIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > You have some vodka.
> > You count them and learn you have five cows.
> > You have some more vodka.
> > You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
> > The Mafia shows up and takes over however many
> cows you really have.
> > 
> > TALIBAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are
> two.
> > You don't milk them because you cannot touch any
> creature's private 
> parts.
> > You get a $40 million grant from the US government
> to find 
> alternatives to milk production but use the money to
> buy weapons.
> > 
> > IRAQI CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two cows.
> > They go into hiding.
> > They send audio tapes of their mooing.
> > 
> > POLISH CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have two bulls.
> > Employees are regularly maimed and killed
> attempting to milk them.
> > 
> > BELGIAN CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have one cow.
> > The cow is schizophrenic.
> > Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times
> he's Flemish.
> > The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
> > The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's
> milk.
> > The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
> > The cow dies happy.
> > 
> > FLORIDA CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have a black cow and a brown cow.
> > Everyone votes for the best looking one.
> > Some of the people who actually like the brown one
> best 
> accidentally vote for the black one.
> > Some people vote for both.
> > Some people vote for neither.
> > Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
> > Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell
> you which one you 
> think is the best-looking cow.
> > 
> > CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
> > 
> > You have millions of cows.
> > They make real California cheese.
> > Only five speak English.
> > Most are illegal.
> > Arnold likes the ones with the big udders.
> >
> > 
> >  
> > -
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!' 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

[Duveyoung]

Buggy,


Welcome to the group!  Howzbout ya present us with a blurb about yourself?

And, er, what kind of "buggy" should we be thinking of ya over here?  

Baby?
Kookoo?
Pissy?
Insectoid?
Flawed?
Infested?
Shay?
Bugs Bunny?
Wood Critter?

Please don't say all the above!

My mother was blind, so yeah gang, put your comments on the top of the
emails!  Hell, even us sighted folks hate scrolling down for 30
seconds only to find a two word (Yo Adrian!) response.

Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy.  There's
highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so you've been warned.

Yappy Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Morning I need to warn you all now I cannot snip as I truly cannot
figure out how to do that on this program yet:) I apologize for any
inconvenience
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Sal Sunshine 
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:48 AM
>   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
> 
> 
>   On May 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> 
> Incidentally, Buggy's situation, as a blind person, is a good
reason for all of us snipping. If he's using a program which reads
emails aloud, then if we don't snip, he has to listen to many minutes
of junk to get to the new material embedded in it.
> 
> 
>   Which oftentimes turns out to be junk as well, so maybe the
non-trimmers are doing Buggy a favor, albeit inadvertently. :)
> 
>   Sal
> 
> 
> 
>
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> 
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

[Buggy]

Morning I need to warn you all now I cannot snip as I truly cannot figure out 
how to do that on this program yet:) I apologize for any inconvenience
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sal Sunshine 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting


  On May 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote:


Incidentally, Buggy’s situation, as a blind person, is a good reason for 
all of us snipping. If he’s using a program which reads emails aloud, then if 
we don’t snip, he has to listen to many minutes of junk to get to the new 
material embedded in it.


  Which oftentimes turns out to be junk as well, so maybe the non-trimmers are 
doing Buggy a favor, albeit inadvertently. :)

  Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The 4 Varna System, Duty and not birth

[nablusoss1008]

> 
> And every one of the uncaged evil doers believes in God, believes that
> God is right there omnipresently, knows intimately the workings of
> their minds, and they feel proud of themselves like right-hand 
angels. 
> 
> Caste system, as if! God's tried every system, and the same thing
> happens everytime. Tweaking, spinning, obfuscating, diverting,
> bullying, extorting, and on and on it goes until the system is an
> instrument through which a tsunami of black karma can flow. 
> 
> If it ain't Kali Yuga, this is enough for me!
> 
> Edg

Well said !

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 > > > 
> > > I gotta say he doesn't even look creepy to me. Just looks like 
> some 
> > > dude looking at the camera. If someone had posted his picture 
> sans 
> > the 
> > > picture of Maharishi in it, claiming to be a picture of a 
poster 
> here 
> > > on FFL, no one would've thought twice about it. Its just 
> projection.
> > >
>> >
> If I was in the room with them and could assess the situation and 
> talk with Girish, maybe I'd agree. I just don't know what it felt 
> like to be there. Pictures can be so decieving. Maybe I'd talk to 
> Girish and he'd say, 'oh that (referring to the two pictures), 
yeah, 
> someone put those up. I don't really notice them', and we'd move 
on, 
> or maybe he'd say, 'yes, I am the new Maharishi', and then tell me 
> to empty his wastebasket, and I'd think 'what an asshole...'. So 
> really hard to say what is going on there from just a picture. I 
> sometimes get energy from pictures, but in this case, nada.

I've seen this fellow in India. He's got this great gift from 
Maharishi; the enormous opportunity to become a businessman. And why 
shouldn't he ? To be born into the family of a Saint certainly is a 
boon from the Gods. 
Those who object to the money and all that are the same people who 
would sacrifice their lives for capitalism, highly devoted to the 
dollars. 
I find this american moralism and doublestandard nauseating.

He will enjoy all these material comforts in this life, that's his 
good karma. But lead the Movement in the future ? Me thinks not...

[FairfieldLife] yoga music from california

[george_deforest]

billed as Enlightening Yoga Music:

"Dance of the Siddhars" by Turiya Nada

http://www.myspace.com/turiyanada 

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[george_deforest]

another look at girish varma:

http://excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/06-aug/india3.html


> shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> Is this ...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf 
> 
> ... the same guy as this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu 
> 
> If so, he's one creepy bastard! 
> I think he fashions himself a Maharishi
> and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can
> take a shot at sitting on the deer skin.
> 
> Anyone getting a similar vibe?