[FairfieldLife] an astrological gift to all members [1 Attachment]

2013-01-14 Thread Daniel Iepure


Hello
everyone!
 
I guess you
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Have fun
reading a material about a way you've never seen yourself as a native of
your zodiac sign.
It is also a self-transforming tool.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her garage.  
Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a garage.  So it's not 
that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And when I say just outside her 
condo I do want to clear that up.  First there's the door.  Well doors really.  
A sliding screen one which she says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And 
then a wooden one which has 2 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them. 
 Then a patio which evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the 
walls were caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple 
upstairs and the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which 
she doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she 
also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all 
understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very own 
handicapped parking space. 
 That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not a 
creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus white 
which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  

Whew!  

Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny because 
my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is associated with 
Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews (-:

And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on Monday 
which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 

Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now falling 
apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including recently a 
leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been mentioning the gas 
smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, 
the corporation not her car and not the planet either.  At least I don't think 
so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation which we have to also recognize is a person 
I guess, has gone out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station 
owner in West Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas 
but that hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very 
screwed up (-:



 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation
 

  
Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very malefic 
if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial influence, must 
be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn now, in our backyard.  
It's influence is generally positive but it always has the benefit of earth 
grounding in its daily circulations. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first house 
   for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just entering Libra, 
   will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at some point in the 
   future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But in general I love when Saturn 
   transits Libra.  One jyotishi told me Saturn is also deep contentment 
   and that is indeed my experience.  When I surrender into Saturn's 
   discipline, etc. deep contentment is the result.  
   
  Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would prefer Saturn in my 
  garage, even though I have no natural affinity for that brand of 
  transportation.
 
 Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding in and accuse 
 you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little joke. You see, I 
 actually have a sense of humour. Now if I could only get her to actually 
 laugh at herself, just once, when I rib her about another front row seat at 
 Wrong or Wong or Wombat's healing hoe down. I would consider that a good day. 
 But then no one ever said the newly-healed possess the ability to find their 
 human condition downright hilarious at times.
 
  http://www.theonion.com/articles/your-horoscopes-week-of-january-9th-2013,30844/
  
   
   From: seekliberation 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:20 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment
   
   
     
   I know a lot on this forum don't care much for astrology, but it did make 
   sense to me as I began to understand it a little better. This will, 
   however, take some explaining. 
   
   A lot of gurus and belief systems have convinced many that we can achieve 
   enlightenment in this lifetime. But I have a problem with the word 
   'achieve'. What aspect of our consciousness wants to 'Achieve' something? 
   It's ultimately our Ego that would want to achieve something, and 
   therefore our tendency to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda

2013-01-14 Thread luvgemlight


Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in 
southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four 
times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely say 
that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving consciousness and 
creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights -- thus, the light 
passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any 
other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini 
awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person 
to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer 
this from the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally transparent 
that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight 
treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration 
given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good idea since they can 
materialize.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:

 On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi 
 Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi 
 Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the 
 source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of 
 God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only 
 to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some 
 sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, 
 emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
 type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light 
 is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper 
 articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even 
 though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people 
 are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, 
 healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to 
 date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the 
 recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's 
 basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more 
 than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill 
 the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% 
 of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems 
 are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA.
 
 There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light 
 outside.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Jackson
Yes we are working on the grant proposals, none of them have yet been submitted 
to any of the philanthropic institutions we are approaching for funding - what 
difference does that make anyway?

And if you can't understand that having something good taught by people who 
are not examples of the good of that technique perhaps you should learn 
something about logic and critical thinking.





 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
students, prison inmates, etc.
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
 You offer to challenge me to back up my statements. So challenge me on this. 
 I will be very plain.
 
 With TM and the sidhis, either it works or it doesn't work. 
 
 If it does work, and the TMO has as much money as they appear to, then it is 
 criminal for them not to initiate a program such as I outlined in this 
 previous post. If they have the money and can save the world, why are they 
 not doing it. Back that up.

Hey Michael, Why don't you try listening to what I said.  I said TM can be 
judged by the results or lack of results in treating PTSD.  I didn't say 
anything about the sidhis or whether TM produces world peace or any other claim.
But you are so locked into your mindset that evidently you are unable to 
examine this one application without bringing in all your other peeves. 
That's fine, but it doesn't factor into whether TM helps PTSD or not and it 
doesn't pertain to the point I was bringing up. 
As for me, personally, I got results.  I got results on the practical level and 
the spiritual level.  
And as for backing up claims, it was you that said you were working on grant 
proposals.  Do you understand that?  Those were your words, your claim.  I 
asked how that was going and if you actually submitted any proposals.  I guess 
you haven't.  I guess that was just something to give you cover as you launch 
your usual rant.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda

2013-01-14 Thread card


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight  wrote:

 
 
 Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in 
 southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four 
 times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely 
 say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving 
 consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights -- 
 thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient 
 lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus 
 some kundalini awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm 
 the last person to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I 
 usually have to infer this from the fact that my experience of myself is so 
 naturally transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my 
 Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care 
 and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good 
 idea since they can materialize.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
 
  On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi 
  Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi 
  Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the 
  source of gems, 

Well, the compound word is 

ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)

ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing 
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV. 
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.

According to Macdonell's comment:

...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/

agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.

gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of 
  God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only 
  to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some 
  sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, 
  emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
  type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light 
  is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper 
  articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even 
  though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people 
  are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, 
  healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to 
  date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the 
  recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's 
  basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more 
  than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill 
  the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% 
  of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems 
  are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA.
  
  There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light 
  outside.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her garage. 
  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a garage.  So it's 
 not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And when I say just 
 outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First there's the door.  
 Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she says is cheap and needs 
 to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2 locks though I'm only 
 allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which evidently had lots of drama 
 the last few months in that the walls were caving in.  She's definitely 
 putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and the shoddy contractors now long 
 gone.  Then some grass on which she doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a 
 sidewalk.  Then more grass which she also prefers to remain a poop free 
 zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all understand, even the dog lovers here.  
 Then a curb.  And then her very own handicapped parking space. 
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not a 
 creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus white 
 which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  
 
 Whew!  
 
 Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny 
 because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is associated 
 with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews (-:
 
 And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on Monday 
 which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 
 
 Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now 
 falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including 
 recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been 
 mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting?  
 And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and not the planet 
 either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation which 
 we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of business so 
 she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West Annapolis.  She 
 bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that hasn't seemed to make 
 him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very screwed up (-:

Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon and stars?
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation
  
 
   
 Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very 
 malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial 
 influence, must be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn 
 now, in our backyard.  It's influence is generally positive but it always 
 has the benefit of earth grounding in its daily circulations. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first 
house for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just 
entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at some 
point in the future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But in general 
I love when Saturn transits Libra.  One jyotishi told me Saturn is 
also deep contentment and that is indeed my experience.  When I 
surrender into Saturn's discipline, etc. deep contentment is the 
result.  

   Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would prefer Saturn in 
   my garage, even though I have no natural affinity for that brand of 
   transportation.
  
  Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding in and accuse 
  you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little joke. You see, I 
  actually have a sense of humour. Now if I could only get her to actually 
  laugh at herself, just once, when I rib her about another front row seat at 
  Wrong or Wong or Wombat's healing hoe down. I would consider that a good 
  day. But then no one ever said the newly-healed possess the ability to find 
  their human condition downright hilarious at times.
  
   http://www.theonion.com/articles/your-horoscopes-week-of-january-9th-2013,30844/
   

From: seekliberation 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment


  
I know a lot on this forum don't care much for astrology, but it did 
make sense to me as I began to understand it a little better. This 
will, however, take some explaining. 

A lot of gurus and belief systems have 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread feste37
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this morning. Share 
really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you are ONLY JOKING. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her 
  garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a 
  garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And 
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First 
  there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she 
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2 
  locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which 
  evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were 
  caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and 
  the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she 
  doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she 
  also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all 
  understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very 
  own handicapped parking space. 
   That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not a 
  creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus white 
  which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  
  
  Whew!  
  
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny 
  because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is 
  associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews 
  (-:
  
  And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on 
  Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 
  
  Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now 
  falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including 
  recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been 
  mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting?  
  And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and not the planet 
  either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation which 
  we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of business so 
  she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West Annapolis.  She 
  bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that hasn't seemed to 
  make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very screwed up (-:
 
 Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon and stars?
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation
   
  
    
  Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very 
  malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial 
  influence, must be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn 
  now, in our backyard.  It's influence is generally positive but it always 
  has the benefit of earth grounding in its daily circulations. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first 
 house for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just 
 entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at some 
 point in the future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But in 
 general I love when Saturn transits Libra.  One jyotishi told me 
 Saturn is also deep contentment and that is indeed my experience.  
 When I surrender into Saturn's discipline, etc. deep contentment is 
 the result.  
 
Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would prefer Saturn 
in my garage, even though I have no natural affinity for that brand of 
transportation.
   
   Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding in and 
   accuse you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little joke. You 
   see, I actually have a sense of humour. Now if I could only get her to 
   actually laugh at herself, just once, when I rib her about another front 
   row seat at Wrong or Wong or Wombat's healing hoe down. I would consider 
   that a good day. But then no one ever said the newly-healed possess the 
   ability to find their human condition downright hilarious at times.
   
http://www.theonion.com/articles/your-horoscopes-week-of-january-9th-2013,30844/

 
 From: seekliberation 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:20 

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Ann...horses, Monty Roberts, Buck Brannaman

2013-01-14 Thread Carol
Thanks Ann. I didn't think you were ignoring me. I thought maybe the post had 
just gotten buried without being seen. :)

Sweet regarding your friend that trained with Brannaman. I had never heard of 
him until last year, when someone recommended the documentary to me. We have an 
independent theater in town that was running the film at the time and I was 
able to catch it. Usually I'm not much of a movie goer.

After seeing Buck and comparing the little I observed and read about 
Brannaman, I got the impression he was a bit more genuine/honest than Monty. 
But again, that was just my armchair impression. FFL Buck's feedback seemed to 
corroborate my impression. But it's still only my impression; no experience to 
back it up.

You stated: In the end it does come down to gaining the horse's trust and also 
establishing yourself as the boss, but a benevolent boss.

So true. I've found similar with dogs. (I currently own a 
pet-sitting/dog-walking service. Interestingly, I've found greyhounds to be 
close to a horse's temperament; at least the few greyhounds I work with.)

I helped break in a few ponies in my younger days. All I recall is first I 
would spend time with them on a lead and grooming. We got to know each other. 
Then I'd get them familiar with a blanket on their back. Then familiar with the 
saddle on their back. Then familiar with me on their back. I have no idea if it 
was a correct way to break in a horse or not; it's just what we did on the 
farm...and it worked.

When I was growing up, the neighborhood ponies  horses lived in a large, large 
pasture which graced my back yard. My neighbor, Mr. Abernathy, oversaw the 
pasture and horses. We paid him a small amount of rent each month. He had a 
not-too-large stable and tack room. The girls in the neighborhood rode horses; 
the guys rode mini-bikes. (This was in the 1960s and early 70s.)

We rode on trails in the neighborhood and in wide open pastures that were also 
in the hood. We could go at a full gallops in those wide open fields. We road 
all around the small city where I grew up (Hickory, North Carolina). That could 
not be done now due to the city's growth and rules and regulations. Plus, most 
of the wide open pastures and all the trails are gone...now developed with 
expensive homes. 

I only rode saddle seat a few times. I did learn to post, but that was my 
extent of my English riding. I did a little bit of jumping, but not very high. 

I rode mostly Western and bareback. As a child, I'd often pretend I was an 
American Indian. My pony and I were on grand adventures of survival. Other 
times I had saddle bags and would be a Western cowgirl. Ha. ;)

I can tell that you have a great love for these majestic beings. They truly are 
majestic. And I'm glad to read of your success in training them.

Your following paragraph should be published somewhere for horsemen/women. 
Ann stated: In my experience a true horseman is a true horseman irrespective 
of the discipline (western, english, saddle seat, endurance) they originate 
from. In the end it is all about the horse and establishing the conditions 
whereby the creature can have a safe and good life. If you ruin its confidence, 
its body or its trust you condemn it to a terrible and often short existence. 
Most people who ride are amateurs and they require safe and trained horses. If 
an animal 'falls between the cracks' and becomes useful to no one then it will 
be put down or languish in conditions characterized by neglect. No one wants to 
feed, house, shoe or otherwise put a lot of money into a big animal that has no 
practical purpose. So, as a horse trainer I always felt I had a huge 
responsibility to 'make' a horse that would be 'user friendly' (ie rideable by 
as many people as possible) so that they would always be sure to be worth 
feeding and loving.

Thanks again Ann! I'd enjoy reading about your (or anyone's) horse adventures.

***



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:

 Hi Carol,
 
 I'm not ignoring you and I'm not in London yet, I just wanted to give this 
 enough time for me to be able to answer you properly.
 
 I am no expert on Western or Horse Whisperer type approaches to training. I 
 too read Robert's book (or two) and saw the movie with Redford and when it 
 all came out I was intrigued because this man seemed to be able to go beyond 
 regular training methods and approach the horse the way a horse approaches 
 another of its kind. 
 
 Brannaman is only someone I am slightly familiar with through another English 
 horse trainer I know in Victoria who I respect very much. She comes from a 
 hunter/jumper background and ran a barn in California for a long time but she 
 is Canadian and returned to the Island (Vancouver Island) about 6 years ago. 
 Anyway, she is a BIG fan of Buck's and trained with him for years. She showed 
 me a tape of his breaking a horse over a few days and it was impressive. He 
 is probably one of the best but, again, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this morning. 
 Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you are ONLY 
 JOKING. 

Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her 
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a 
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  
   And when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First 
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she 
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 
   2 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which 
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were 
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs 
   and the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she 
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she 
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all 
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very 
   own handicapped parking space. 
That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not 
   a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus 
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  
   
   Whew!  
   
   Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny 
   because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is 
   associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap 
   interviews (-:
   
   And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on 
   Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 
   
   Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now 
   falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including 
   recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been 
   mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting? 
And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and not the planet 
   either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation 
   which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of 
   business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West 
   Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that 
   hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very 
   screwed up (-:
  
  Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon and 
  stars?
   
   
   
From: seventhray27 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation

   
     
   Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very 
   malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial 
   influence, must be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn 
   now, in our backyard.  It's influence is generally positive but it 
   always has the benefit of earth grounding in its daily circulations. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first 
  house for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just 
  entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at 
  some point in the future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But 
  in general I love when Saturn transits Libra.  One jyotishi told 
  me Saturn is also deep contentment and that is indeed my 
  experience.  When I surrender into Saturn's discipline, etc. 
  deep contentment is the result.  
  
 Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would prefer Saturn 
 in my garage, even though I have no natural affinity for that brand 
 of transportation.

Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding in and 
accuse you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little joke. 
You see, I actually have a sense of humour. Now if I could only get her 
to actually laugh at herself, just once, when I rib her about another 
front row seat at Wrong or Wong or Wombat's healing hoe down. I would 
consider that a good day. But then no one ever said the newly-healed 
possess the ability to find their human condition downright hilarious 
at times.

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
 
  One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
 morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
 are ONLY JOKING.

 Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...


Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
to normal humans...LOL..



 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her
 garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a
 garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And
 when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
 there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she
 says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2
 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
 evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
 caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and
 the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
 doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she
 also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
 understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very
 own handicapped parking space.Â
That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God
 not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus
 white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
   
Whew!Â
   
Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually
 funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is
 associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews
 (-:
   
And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this
 on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!
   
Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is
 officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after
 another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping
 people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But
 who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and
 not the planet either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the
 corporation which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone
 out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West
 Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that
 hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very
 screwed up (-:
  
   Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon
 and stars?
   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
 
  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
 
 
 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
 to normal humans...LOL..

Thank you dear Ravi, for a moment I thought it was all me and I had given up 
all hope.
 
 
 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her
  garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a
  garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
  there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2
  locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
  evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
  caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and
  the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
  doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she
  also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
  understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very
  own handicapped parking space.Â
 That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God
  not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus
  white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â

 Whew!Â

 Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually
  funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is
  associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews
  (-:

 And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this
  on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!

 Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is
  officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after
  another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping
  people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But
  who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car 
  and
  not the planet either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the
  corporation which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone
  out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West
  Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that
  hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very
  screwed up (-:
   
Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon
  and stars?

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this morning. 
 Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you are ONLY 
 JOKING. 

Oh, I'm not joking, I never said that. I said I wondered if Share could ever, 
within the context of her endless search for the ultimate healer, ever be able 
to laugh at herself. My ability to laugh at her, myself and lots of other 
things is intact. How about you, got any giggles in there?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her 
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a 
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  
   And when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First 
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she 
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 
   2 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which 
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were 
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs 
   and the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she 
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she 
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all 
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very 
   own handicapped parking space. 
That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not 
   a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus 
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  
   
   Whew!  
   
   Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny 
   because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is 
   associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap 
   interviews (-:
   
   And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on 
   Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 
   
   Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now 
   falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including 
   recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been 
   mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting? 
And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and not the planet 
   either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation 
   which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of 
   business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West 
   Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that 
   hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very 
   screwed up (-:
  
  Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon and 
  stars?
   
   
   
From: seventhray27 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation

   
     
   Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very 
   malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial 
   influence, must be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn 
   now, in our backyard.  It's influence is generally positive but it 
   always has the benefit of earth grounding in its daily circulations. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first 
  house for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just 
  entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at 
  some point in the future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But 
  in general I love when Saturn transits Libra.  One jyotishi told 
  me Saturn is also deep contentment and that is indeed my 
  experience.  When I surrender into Saturn's discipline, etc. 
  deep contentment is the result.  
  
 Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would prefer Saturn 
 in my garage, even though I have no natural affinity for that brand 
 of transportation.

Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding in and 
accuse you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little joke. 
You see, I actually have a sense of humour. Now if I could only get her 
to actually laugh at herself, just once, when I rib her about another 
front row seat 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams


 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on 
 again this week...

In Indian mythology the Sanskrit word 'mela' means 
a 'festival' and 'khumb' means a 'pot'. 

According to the Indian literature, at the beginning 
of time, the Gods got together and churned the ocean 
to extract a substance which would confer immortality. 

The Gods agreed to share this mighty elixir, but one 
of them apparently absconded with the whole pot of 
Holy Ambrosia. 

Fleeing with the 'Nectar of the Gods', over the course 
of twelve days, the decoction Amrita was spilt onto 
four auspicious places, namely, Prayag, Hardwar, 
Ujjain, and Nasik. 

Read more:

ALLAHABAD: Leading the first shahi snan (royal bath) 
of Maha Kumbh 2013 on the occasion of Makar Sankranti 
on Monday would be members of Sanatan Dharma-18 
akhadas who would be marching in unison before dawn.

'Sanatan Dharm akharas'
Times of India, January 14, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/c685kam

'Maha Kumbha Mela Photos'
India Today, January 14, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/cchz8oo



[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27
Feste,
Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be
stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
course  [:-s] )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has
wound up his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting
here.
But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so
much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone
up in arms here.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:

  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
 

 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really
scary
 to normal humans...LOL..


 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn. 
Though not in her
  garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually
doesn't have a
  garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it,
etc.  And
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up. 
First
  there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen
one which she
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one
which has 2
  locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a
patio which
  evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls
were
  caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple
upstairs and
  the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on
which she
  doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more
grass which she
  also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we
can all
  understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And
then her very
  own handicapped parking space.Â
 That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white
BTW.  Thank God
  not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But
more of a Venus
  white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â

 Whew!Â

 Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn. 
Which is actually
  funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon
which is
  associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap
interviews
  (-:

 And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am
writing this
  on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!

 Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn. 
Which is
  officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair
after
  another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging
gasping
  people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2
years.  But
  who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the
corporation not her car and
  not the planet either.  At least I don't think so. 
Anyway, Saturn the
  corporation which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has
gone
  out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner
in West
  Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas
but that
  hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn
is very
  screwed up (-:
   
Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the
moon
  and stars?

 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know,
you are ONLY JOKING.

 Oh, I'm not joking, I never said that. I said I wondered if Share
could ever, within the context of her endless search for the ultimate
healer, of course you misrepresent.  you miss the nuance of her seeking.
not that I am an expert on Share, but this exaggeration is nothing but a
slightever be able to laugh at herself. on the other hand, you appear to
be an expert on Share.  pretty remarkable, that.My ability to laugh at
her, myself and lots of other things is intact. okay, we should all be
more like youHow about you, got any giggles in there?
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
   
You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though
not in her garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually
doesn't have a garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but
doesn't use it, etc.  And when I say just outside her condo I do
want to clear that up.  First there's the door.  Well doors
really.  A sliding screen one which she says is cheap and needs to
be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2 locks though I'm
only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which evidently had
lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were caving in. 
She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and the
shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass
which she also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping
we can all understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb. 
And then her very own handicapped parking space.Â
 That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.Â
Thank God not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But
more of a Venus white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
   
Whew!Â
   
Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is
actually funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon
which is associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap
interviews (-:
   
And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am
writing this on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love
it!
   
Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is
officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after
another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging
gasping people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2
years.  But who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the
corporation not her car and not the planet either.  At least I don't
think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation which we have to also
recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of business so she has to
take car to grumpy gas station owner in West Annapolis.  She bakes
him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that hasn't seemed to make
him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very screwed up (-:
  
   Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the
moon and stars?
   
   

 From: seventhray27
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation
   
   
Â
Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a
garage can be very malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in
order to have a beneficial influence, must be able to circulate in
some fashion.  We have a Saturn now, in our backyard.  It'sÂ
influence is generally positive but it always has the benefit of earth
grounding in its daily circulations.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros
Anartaxius wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in
Libra in first house for me.  Saturn is just transiting
that.  Rahu is just entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and
transiting Saturn at some point in the future.  Expecting wild
times ahead.  But in general I love when Saturn transits
Libra.  One jyotishi told me Saturn is also deep contentment and
that is indeed my experience.  When I surrender into Saturn's
discipline, etc. deep contentment is the result.ÂÂ
  
  Considering the state of my automobile, I think I would
prefer Saturn in my garage, even though I have no natural affinity for
that brand of transportation.

 Careful Xeno, one of those white knights might come bounding
in and accuse you of being mean to Share. But me, I liked your little
joke. You see, I actually have a sense of humour. Now if I 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams


nablusoss1008:
 The inauguration of the Maharishi Smarak is on 
 February 15...

Earlier on Thursday, it was the peshwai of Shankarcharya 
of Jyotish Peeth, Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, which became 
a truly colossal event judging by all standards given the 
dominating presence of sadhus, Mahamandaleshwars, Nagas and 
Dandi swamis clad in saffron holding the dharma dhwaj 
marching in unison from the abode of Shankaracharya of 
Jyotish Peeth, Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati in Alopi Bagh.

'Saints cheer, devotees chant, Sangam echoes'
Times of India, January 5, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/amfcc57





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Ann

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 Feste,
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to
be
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
 course  [:-s] )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has
 wound up his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting
 here.
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so
 much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has
everyone
 up in arms here.





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
 
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
 know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
drivel...
  
 
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
 humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
really
 scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
 
 
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.Â
 Though not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually
 doesn't have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use
it,
 etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
up.Â
 First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding
screen
 one which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden
one
 which has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a
 patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls
 were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy
couple
 upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on
 which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then
more
 grass which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping
we
 can all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb. 
And
 then her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white
 BTW.  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But
 more of a Venus
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
 
  Whew!Â
 
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.Â
 Which is actually
   funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon
 which is
   associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap
 interviews
   (-:
 
  And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am
 writing this
   on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!
 
  Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.Â
 Which is
   officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair
 after
   another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various
gagging
 gasping
   people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2
 years.  But
   who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the
 corporation not her car and
   not the planet either.  At least I don't think so.Â
 Anyway, Saturn the
   corporation which we have to also recognize is a person I guess,
has
 gone
   out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner
 in West
   Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every
Christmas
 but that
   hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn
 is very
   screwed up (-:

 Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the
 moon
   and stars?
 
  
 




[FairfieldLife] M$: Scorpio-gate(s)?

2013-01-14 Thread card

Scorpios always do well because they use all of their seductive powers to sell. 
The goal of Scorpio is to make you do what they want you to do, whether you 
want to do it or not, Lutin says about this sign, known for its passion. 
People hate Windows, but they buy it.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/28/billionaires-horoscope-astrology-cz_lk_0328billyhoroscopes.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27
Ann,
I would greatly appreciate it, if you would not disarm me so
effectively. (-:
But, let me compose myself, and get back to the mean point I was going
to make.
You seem to be a mild champion of Michael's cause here.  I think that's
great.  And I enjoy Michael's partcipation here, and feel he makes many
good points.
But you realize that Michael has probably visited as many, if not more,
healers, shamans, channelers than our Share.
Just a point of information.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:
 
  Feste,
  Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears
to
 be
  stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
  course  [:-s] )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or
has
  wound up his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting
  here.
  But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so
  much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has
 everyone
  up in arms here.





  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
**
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
  know, you
are ONLY JOKING.
   
Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
 drivel...
   
  
   Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
  humorous
   and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
 really
  scary
   to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a
Saturn.Â
  Though not in her
garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually
  doesn't have a
garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use
 it,
  etc.  And
when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
 up.Â
  First
there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding
 screen
  one which she
says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden
 one
  which has 2
locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a
  patio which
evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the
walls
  were
caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy
 couple
  upstairs and
the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on
  which she
doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then
 more
  grass which she
also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping
 we
  can all
understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.Â
 And
  then her very
own handicapped parking space.Â
   That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white
  BTW.  Thank God
not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But
  more of a Venus
white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
  
   Whew!Â
  
   Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.Â
  Which is actually
funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon
  which is
associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap
  interviews
(-:
  
   And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I
am
  writing this
on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!
  
   Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.Â
  Which is
officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair
  after
another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various
 gagging
  gasping
people have been mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2
  years.  But
who's counting?  And guess what?  Saturn, the
  corporation not her car and
not the planet either.  At least I don't think so.Â
  Anyway, Saturn the
corporation which we have to also recognize is a person I guess,
 has
  gone
out of business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station
owner
  in West
Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every
 Christmas
  but that
hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his
Saturn
  is very
screwed up (-:
 
  Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or
the
  moon
and stars?
  
   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Oscar Noms Reviews: Zero Dark Thirty

2013-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams


   It's a powerful movie, and a well-made one...
  
  ...because director Kathryn Bigelow hasn't the first 
  fucking clue about how to make a realistic movie 
  about the military or war...
 
Bhairitu:
 I won't be seeing it either as I considered the whole 
 raid as a work of fiction

The irony of this probably won't be lost on TruqB. LoL! 

A review of of a movie you'll NEVER see because you
think it's a fictional account? Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda

2013-01-14 Thread card

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight  wrote:
 
 
 
  Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments
here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either
twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in
2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality
for improving consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are
laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very
coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a
ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after
that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm
transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer this from
the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I
don't realize that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight
treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care and
consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good
idea since they can materialize.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
  
   On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
   Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
   Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
   source of gems,

 Well, the compound word is

 ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)

   ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa]  mfn. procuring wealth , distributing riches
or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV.
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.

 According to Macdonell's comment:

 ...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/


ratna n. (1. %{rA}) a gift , present , goods , wealth ,  riches RV. AV.
S3Br. ; a jewel , gem , treasure , precious stone (the  nine jñjewel
are pearl , ruby , topaz , diamond , emerald , lapis lazuli  , coral ,
sapphire , Gomeda ; hence %{ratna} is a N. for the number 9 ;  but
accord. to some 14) Mn. MBh. c. ; anything valuable or best of  its
kind (e. g. %{putra-r-} , an excellent son) ; a magnet , loadstone  Kap.
Sch. (cf. %{maNi}) ; water L. ; = %{ratna-havis} S3Br. ; m. (with 
%{bhaTTa}) N. of a man Cat.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Oscar Noms Reviews: Zero Dark Thirty

2013-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams


  But I do agree with the critics, and wish that the filmmakers
  hadn't given the impression that valuable intelligence was 
  gained in this manhunt as the result of torture. It wasn't...
 
feste37: 
 I refuse to see this movie, for that reason. Torture is 
 a crime that should be prosecuted, not a legitimate 
 interrogation technique that should be celebrated.

Uh oh, Ed's not going to like this! I guess you could get out 
and vote, or just leave the country. It doesn't look like
Obama is going to be arrested any time soon. LoL

'Barack Obama nominates UT alumnus John Brennan to head of CIA'
The Daily Texan, January 13, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/axf37oo



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Empty baby - I may be in India and busy and may have ignored you but
remember Devi  I always love you. Here's a picture just for you -
http://flic.kr/p/dLv7ev

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:33 AM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 And steel wool at that.
 It keeps me from taking
 anyone too seriously here.

 'Cept for Ravioli, who can't
 help singing his own aria ...
 The Raving Rakshasha.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
  
   Share maintained her whole shtick against all the people she
   doesn't like, trashed them good again, and did it all while
   thinking she was putting out sweetness and light. I noted
   she felt a lot better today.
 
  I was thinking that surely her act must be wearing a little
  thin even for her admirers by now, with that post yesterday
  and then the tiresomely predictable butter-wouldn't-melt-in-
  my-mouth number today when she saw it wasn't going over
  quite as she had planned. Sheesh, even Ravi isn't happy with
  her.
 
  But it seems Our EmptyBill is eager to ride to her rescue
  nonetheless, wool still firmly glued to his eyes.
 
 
 
 
 
   I actually did let the BS in 2012 go and was feeling very detached
 about it all and willing to start fresh and be less reactive to what I
 perceive as her attacks, but now, despite my efforts, I have the blues
 again. Â Here's one from Big Bill Broonzy - Key to the Highway. Â
 It's not opera, but it has a place.
  
   I've got the key to the highway
   And I'm billed out and bound to go
   I'm gonna leave here runnin'
   'Cause walkin' is most to slow
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN_f0WVsHuw Â
  
  
  
   
From: emptybill
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:40 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
   
   
   Â
   Unabated mugging as usual.
   
   Just goes to show that vasana-s
   can't be tricked by braggadocio
   nor by lightly disguised aggression.
   So ... channeling a rakshasa again?
   
   Yep, them ol' sanskara-s just
   won't stop poppin' off.
   Must be the old carnivore instinct.
   You eatin' at McDonald's again?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
   
Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You
 and I
never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would
 have
   put us
right back where we were.
   
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote:
   
 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I
 have
   about
 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as
 juicily
   and
 joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add
 to or
   at
 least support the enjoyment of others.
 
  As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've
   decided to
 not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much
   better
 since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too.
 
  As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin
 anew
  and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful
  because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew.

 Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew,
 and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us
 right back where we were.

 You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts
 from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them
 going.

 If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to
 your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience
 to explain it to you. I don't.

 Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share.


  Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so.
 
  But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every
 opportunity
   to
 snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational
 tone
   towards
 me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they
 ignore it
   when I
 do post a positive reply to them.
 
 
  You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with
 her
   running
 out of money situation would have better things to do with
 their
   time and
 energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me
 into
   the new
 year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and
 Robin!
   So IMO
 there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this
 grudge
   into the
 new year. And I won't be a part of it.
 
 
 
  I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing.
 But I
   will
 not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending,
   confrontational,
 snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges
   benefit? NO
 ONE!
 
 
  OTOH 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 **


 I like nasty. Why do you think I like Ravi?


You real nasty dear Obba !!!


 I like Turq and Bob, oh I love Bob's of different variations, and Robin
 and Emily and Author and all the rest, including in his own category of
 wanting very young girls, Nabby. Alex and the Budha at the pump dude,
 Richard, with time and wording everyone of us can be turned around and why
 does anyone mind if anyone has opinion? Rahu and Ketu change their meany
 times tomorrow morning, even though they already changed in their true
 time, things will either get better or worse and judging by my week??? I
 think it is going to get better for me. Absolutely. It took the wild west
 draws and bar room brawls and saloon girls to make me see, even the most
 seemingly dissolution in behavior, can lead to enlightenment and even speed
 it up. If Share long takes a bit longer, well, 18 years coming at you this
 day. Hope you fine the Happy Place.
 I love everyone on this board, and it is most fun to make fun of funny
 burger king hats, even though I like the practice that lead before all of
 that. hahaha. Off to the love gallery. See you all later. oxo -Obba

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I
  never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put
 us
  right back where we were.
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
   **
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have
 about
   30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and
   joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at
   least support the enjoyment of others.
   
As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided
 to
   not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better
   since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too.
   
As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew
and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful
because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew.
  
   Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew,
   and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us
   right back where we were.
  
   You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts
   from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them
   going.
  
   If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to
   your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience
   to explain it to you. I don't.
  
   Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share.
  
  
Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so.
   
But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity to
   snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational tone
 towards
   me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they ignore it
 when I
   do post a positive reply to them.
   
   
You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her
 running
   out of money situation would have better things to do with their time
 and
   energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into
 the new
   year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! So
 IMO
   there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge
 into the
   new year. And I won't be a part of it.
   
   
   
I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. But I
 will
   not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending, confrontational,
   snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges benefit? NO
   ONE!
   
   
OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the
   holidays and even more recently. You all have shown me that it's
 possible
   to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty.
   
love and hugs
   
Share
   
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.


Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told us 
several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little differently 
than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording better so there 
we are.  


Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which one, 
the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!    

I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival dharma 
to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and meditate.  
Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too high!  What 
chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you are so cool.

I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will happen 
to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse hockeys on a 
regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were totally gross.  
Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international travel if you know what 
I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  Anyway, we promise to love you 
even if you become a little less cool.


Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set for 
another day on FFL (-:



 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
know who ha ha
 

  
Feste,

Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be stuck 
in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course )  And I am 
speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family visit, and is 
gearing up to his typical posting here.

But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in arms 
here.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
 
  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
 
 
 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
 to normal humans...LOL..
 
 
 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her
  garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a
  garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
  there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 2
  locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
  evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
  caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs and
  the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
  doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she
  also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
  understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then her very
  own handicapped parking space.Â
 That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God
  not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus
  white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â

 Whew!Â

 Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually
  funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is
  associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews
  (-:

 And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this
  on Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it!

 Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is
  officially now falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after
  another including recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping
  people 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  I know.  I keep making
that mistake.It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc
there vs Doc here.That is hilarious isn't it.  For me though, I like the
Jim under the DD alias.  I mean how much ego this, ego that, witnessing
here, self expanding to infinity there, can one stand.
  But what about poor Ann?  She appears to have been possessed
by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.


 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know
why?  Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the
record.  Because you are so cool.  And we all know from high
school that it's ok for cool people to say mean and nasty things. 
How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told us several
times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little
differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his
wording better so there we are.Â


 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness. 
Huh?  Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh
what the heck, both! Â Â

 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival
dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness
way too high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive
you because you are so cool.

 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What
will happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved
horse hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but
they were totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
international travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own
with that one.  Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a
little less cool.


 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be
all set for another day on FFL (-:

You know your audience.  I'll grant you that.

 
  From: seventhray27
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not
to you know who ha ha


 Â
 Feste,

 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann appears
to be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound
up his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.

 But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could garner
so much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap
and has everyone up in arms here.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
 
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
drivel...
  
 
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
 
 
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a
Saturn.  Though not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she
actually doesn't have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't
use it, etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A
sliding screen one which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a
wooden one which has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then
a patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls
were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy
couple upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass
on which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.Â
Then more grass which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm
hoping we can all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a
curb.  And then her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is
white BTW.  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon. 
But more of a Venus
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
 
  Whew!Â
 
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's
Saturn.  Which is actually
   funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon
which is
   

[FairfieldLife] ALL AMERICA NEEDS TO SEE THIS! OBAMA'S DRONE WAR ON WOMEN....

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk86cs6j_pQfeature=player_embedded



[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
no shit, Steve.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  I know.  I keep making
 that mistake.It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc
 there vs Doc here.That is hilarious isn't it.  For me though, I like the
 Jim under the DD alias.  I mean how much ego this, ego that, witnessing
 here, self expanding to infinity there, can one stand.
   But what about poor Ann?  She appears to have been possessed
 by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.
 
 
  Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know
 why?  Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the
 record.  Because you are so cool.  And we all know from high
 school that it's ok for cool people to say mean and nasty things. 
 How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told us several
 times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his
 wording better so there we are.Â
 
 
  Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness. 
 Huh?  Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh
 what the heck, both! Â Â
 
  I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival
 dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
 meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness
 way too high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive
 you because you are so cool.
 
  I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What
 will happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved
 horse hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but
 they were totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
 international travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own
 with that one.  Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a
 little less cool.
 
 
  Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be
 all set for another day on FFL (-:
 
 You know your audience.  I'll grant you that.
 
  
   From: seventhray27
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not
 to you know who ha ha
 
 
  Â
  Feste,
 
  Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann appears
 to be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
 course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound
 up his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
  But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could garner
 so much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap
 and has everyone up in arms here.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
**
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
 know, you
are ONLY JOKING.
   
Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
 drivel...
   
  
   Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
 humorous
   and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
 really scary
   to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a
 Saturn.  Though not in her
garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she
 actually doesn't have a
garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't
 use it, etc.  And
when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
 up.  First
there's the door.  Well doors really.  A
 sliding screen one which she
says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a
 wooden one which has 2
locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then
 a patio which
evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls
 were
caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy
 couple upstairs and
the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass
 on which she
doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.Â
 Then more grass which she
also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm
 hoping we can all
understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a
 curb.  And then her very
own handicapped parking space.Â
   That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is
 white BTW.  Thank God
not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon. 
 But more of a Venus
white which is good for 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread raunchydog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy5bgD1RNOsfeature=youtube_gdata_player


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
 appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
 course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
 cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
 mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told 
 us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little 
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording 
 better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which 
 one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!    
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival dharma 
 to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and meditate.  
 Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too high!  What 
 chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
  
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course )  
 And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family 
 visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in 
 arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which 
   has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple 
   upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass 
   which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then 
   her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  
  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a 
   Venus
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
 
  Whew!Â
 
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is 
  actually
   funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is
   associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 
 
  The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on 
  again this week...


This Kumbha Mela is the biggest in 144 years.

http://www.maharishismarak.org/videos/maharishi_smarak_2012_12_31.html
http://www.thehindu.com/
http://tinyurl.com/adora4r
http://tinyurl.com/bccwttm
http://goindia.about.com/od/festivalpictures/ig/Kumbh-Mela-Pictures/


 In Indian mythology the Sanskrit word 'mela' means 
 a 'festival' and 'khumb' means a 'pot'. 
 
 According to the Indian literature, at the beginning 
 of time, the Gods got together and churned the ocean 
 to extract a substance which would confer immortality. 
 
 The Gods agreed to share this mighty elixir, but one 
 of them apparently absconded with the whole pot of 
 Holy Ambrosia. 
 
 Fleeing with the 'Nectar of the Gods', over the course 
 of twelve days, the decoction Amrita was spilt onto 
 four auspicious places, namely, Prayag, Hardwar, 
 Ujjain, and Nasik. 
 
 Read more:
 
 ALLAHABAD: Leading the first shahi snan (royal bath) 
 of Maha Kumbh 2013 on the occasion of Makar Sankranti 
 on Monday would be members of Sanatan Dharma-18 
 akhadas who would be marching in unison before dawn.
 
 'Sanatan Dharm akharas'
 Times of India, January 14, 2013
 http://tinyurl.com/c685kam
 
 'Maha Kumbha Mela Photos'
 India Today, January 14, 2013
 http://tinyurl.com/cchz8oo





[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Oscar Noms Reviews: Zero Dark Thirty

2013-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams


  It's a powerful movie, and a well-made one. 
  
Alex Stanley:
 Here's an alternative perspective from a gay, 
 ex-marine blogger who won't be seeing it...

Why am I not surprised about this from a gay, 
ex-marine blogger who has not seen the movie?

But, I'd think maybe a gay ex-marine would 
approve of the interrogation tactics. Go figure. 

What is surprising is that Turq seems to have 
been asleep during most of the pirated movie
- maybe he don't like the powerful women? 

P.S. I have not seen the movie, yet. It's either
about torture, killing, or a work of fiction.

LoL!

Chastain told Rose at first she was surprised it 
was a woman who led the intelligence effort to 
track down bin Laden and was extremely proud of 
her persistence. She said, Her strength, and you 
know, even when she comes up against brick walls 
-- whether it be interrogations that don't go the 
way she wants or colleagues that don't believe in 
her lead -- she does not take 'no' for an answer.

'Zero Dark Thirty' highlights rising star of women in CIA'
CBS, January 14, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/cxju5f2





[FairfieldLife] Petition | Courts to Bring Nithyananda to Justice.: Rescind Nithyananda's bail and bring him to trial. | Change.org

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.change.org/petitions/courts-to-bring-nithyananda-to-justice-resci
nd-nithyananda-s-bail-and-bring-him-to-trial?utm_source=share_petition
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:

 It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc 
 here.
 
 Audience appropriate, is the way I characterize it, Share, and it changes 
 rapidly. Did you catch my last response to MJ? Very much like my postings on 
 the BatGap forum. 
 
 There's this buzzword in business and politics called emotional intelligence. 
 It basically means being present with whoever you are interacting with. So, I 
 express myself differently, depending on who I am interacting with, and the 
 environment.


So that's the reason that when posting to the Turq nowadays you post about 
alcohol ? He seems thoroughly confused now that you are so friendly AND discuss 
one of his favorite pastimes :-)



[FairfieldLife] Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Archer

Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express paper, 
regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her satsang just 
before leaving on the N. India tour.
 
http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
 
Women, break your shackles and awaken
By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in our 
country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with no 
consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and divine 
thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God Consciousness in 
everything and showing tolerance to the world, now becoming a land of asuric, 
demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most brutal physical and emotional 
abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go through, which finally claimed her 
life.
 
No one can question the reality of motherhood—that man is created from woman. 
Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow minds will never 
be able to comprehend this—you cannot explain light to those who only know 
darkness.
 
Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is that no 
external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities of 
motherhood—qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is she—she 
alone—who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only real barrier that 
prevents this from happening.
 
The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to prevail in 
most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to exploit and subjugate 
women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds have become entangled in 
the cobweb of those customs.
 
An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant living in 
captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong rope. The 
calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When its efforts 
prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same elephant is fully 
grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin rope. It could easily 
free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the rope. But because its mind 
has been conditioned by its prior experiences, it does not make the slightest 
attempt to break free.
 
This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in man and 
woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily break the shackles 
of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed on them.
 
A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her creative, 
life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far more significant 
change in society than men can ever accomplish. In today’s world, where 
everything is being contaminated and made unnatural, women should take extra 
care that her qualities of motherhood—her essential nature as a woman—don’t 
become contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real 
humanity comes to light only when the feminine and masculine qualities within 
one are balanced.
 
India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all spheres 
of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, spiritual luminaries, 
musicians or social workers. Though not acknowledged enough in our history 
books or in the social media, their contribution has been prolific. This legacy 
has to continue and grow with time.
 
The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal motherhood. 
Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of motherhood within 
themselves. This is the only way to realise our dream of peace and harmony. And 
it can be done! It is entirely up to us. Let us remember that real leadership 
is not to dominate or to control, but to serve others with love and compassion, 
and to inspire women and men alike through the example of our lives.
 
Let us all pray that cruel minds, which denigrate women, be transformed. May 
the Paramatma help them to follow our rich tradition, and respect the women of 
this country and all other countries.
 
The writer is a world renowned spiritual leader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* * * * * * * * * 
The more Love you give, the more your heart is filled with Love.
Love is like a never ending stream. -Amma

 

 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Doc but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
You're right about that post to MJ, Doc.  I appreciated it.  Sorry.  Going for 
a cheap laugh.  Comedian in training.  




 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
read to turq
 

  
It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.

Audience appropriate, is the way I characterize it, Share, and it changes 
rapidly. Did you catch my last response to MJ? Very much like my postings on 
the BatGap forum. 

There's this buzzword in business and politics called emotional intelligence. 
It basically means being present with whoever you are interacting with. So, I 
express myself differently, depending on who I am interacting with, and the 
environment.

I would hardly characterize my different styles of communication as Dr Jekyl 
and Mr Hyde. However, thanks for being a fan of mine, in a very convoluted way.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
 appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
 course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
 cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
 mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told 
 us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little 
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording 
 better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which 
 one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!    
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival dharma 
 to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and meditate.  
 Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too high!  What 
 chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
 
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course )  
 And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family 
 visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in 
 arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which 
   has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
Look feste37 - clearly you have  no sense of humor eitherafter a script 
from Share straight out of Real Housewives of Somewhere, why can't it be 
commented on? If there is something about Share's mental health we need to 
know, please alert Alex or someone who can discreetly send out emails.  
Otherwise, I really enjoyed this from Share, honestly, it made me laugh...and 
Ann's comment tooand not because I am holding a grudge - I got over her 
last slam mail yesterday.  I am laughing at her, but not meanly, and maybe 
she intended this as such, who knows.  Remember, we are interacting with words 
here.  If Share had a sense of humor, she would laugh as well.  Maybe she did?  
 




 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:29 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
know who ha ha
 

  
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this morning. 
Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you are ONLY 
JOKING. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though not in her 
  garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't have a 
  garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, etc.  And 
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First 
  there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one which she 
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which has 
  2 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which 
  evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were 
  caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple upstairs 
  and the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she 
  doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass which she 
  also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all 
  understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then
 her very own handicapped parking space. 
   That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  Thank God not 
  a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a Venus 
  white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!  
  
  Whew!  
  
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is actually funny 
  because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is 
  associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews 
  (-:
  
  And the Moon in the 6th does aspect Saturn.  And I am writing this on 
  Monday which is ruled by the Moon...Life, you gotta love it! 
  
  Yikes, where was I?!  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is officially now 
  falling apart, meaning it's one expensive repair after another including 
  recently a leaky gas tank.  Various gagging gasping people have been 
  mentioning the gas smell to her for about 2 years.  But who's counting?  
  And guess what?  Saturn, the corporation not her car and not the planet 
  either.  At least I don't think so.  Anyway, Saturn the corporation 
  which we have to also recognize is a person I guess, has gone out of 
  business so she has to take car to grumpy gas station owner in West 
  Annapolis.  She bakes him and his wife cookies every Christmas but that 
  hasn't seemed to make him any less grumpy.  I bet his Saturn is very 
  screwed up (-:
 
 Wow, what/who do we have to blame for this? Sugar, Wong or the moon and 
 stars?
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:08 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to seekliberation
  
  
    
  Xeno, you have raised a serious point.  Saturn in a garage can be very 
  malefic if it becomes activated.  Saturn, in order to have a beneficial 
  influence, must be able to circulate in some fashion.  We have a Saturn 
  now, in our backyard.  It's influence is generally positive but it 
  always has the benefit of earth grounding in its daily circulations. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Really enjoyed this, seekliberation.  Ketu is in Libra in first 
 house for me.  Saturn is just transiting that.  Rahu is just 
 entering Libra, will transit natal Ketu and transiting Saturn at 
 some point in the future.  Expecting wild times ahead.  But in 
 general I love when Saturn transits Libra.  One jyotishi told me 
 Saturn is also deep contentment and that is indeed my experience. 
  When I surrender into Saturn's discipline, etc. deep contentment is 
 the result.  
 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
 appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
 course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
 cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
 mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told 
 us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little 
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording 
 better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which 
 one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!    
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival dharma 
 to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and meditate.  
 Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too high!  What 
 chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.

I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
  
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course )  
 And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family 
 visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in 
 arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which 
   has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple 
   upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass 
   which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then 
   her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  
  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a 
   Venus
   white which is good for vehicles.  Yay!Â
 
  Whew!Â
 
  Anyway, where was I?  Oh yes, my Mom's Saturn.  Which is 
  actually
   funny because my Saturn is in Cancer which is ruled by the Moon which is
   associated with Mother in jyotish, astrology, and on all Batgap interviews
   (-:
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
The last two contracts I did, I had to work effectively with both management 
and union personnel - very different communication styles. One union guy told 
me at lunch that if I hadn't just referred to something as completely fucked 
up, he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

Also, I enjoy broadening the discussion sometimes.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
 
  It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc 
  here.
  
  Audience appropriate, is the way I characterize it, Share, and it changes 
  rapidly. Did you catch my last response to MJ? Very much like my postings 
  on the BatGap forum. 
  
  There's this buzzword in business and politics called emotional 
  intelligence. It basically means being present with whoever you are 
  interacting with. So, I express myself differently, depending on who I am 
  interacting with, and the environment.
 
 
 So that's the reason that when posting to the Turq nowadays you post about 
 alcohol ? He seems thoroughly confused now that you are so friendly AND 
 discuss one of his favorite pastimes :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
I own a copy of it.

On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
 Did you ever see the Short Cut to Nirvana documentary.  I loved the movie 
 from a visual perspective.

 http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short-cut-to-nirvana/




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Kumbh Mela Streams



 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
The cutest picture ever.  Your sister? is beautiful.  




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
 

  
Empty baby - I may be in India and busy and may have ignored you but remember 
Devi  I always love you. Here's a picture just for you - 
http://flic.kr/p/dLv7ev


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:33 AM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
And steel wool at that.
It keeps me from taking
anyone too seriously here.

'Cept for Ravioli, who can't
help singing his own aria ...
The Raving Rakshasha.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 
  Share maintained her whole shtick against all the people she
  doesn't like, trashed them good again, and did it all while
  thinking she was putting out sweetness and light. I noted
  she felt a lot better today.

 I was thinking that surely her act must be wearing a little
 thin even for her admirers by now, with that post yesterday
 and then the tiresomely predictable butter-wouldn't-melt-in-
 my-mouth number today when she saw it wasn't going over
 quite as she had planned. Sheesh, even Ravi isn't happy with
 her.

 But it seems Our EmptyBill is eager to ride to her rescue
 nonetheless, wool still firmly glued to his eyes.





  I actually did let the BS in 2012 go and was feeling very detached
about it all and willing to start fresh and be less reactive to what I
perceive as her attacks, but now, despite my efforts, I have the blues
again. Â Here's one from Big Bill Broonzy - Key to the Highway. Â
It's not opera, but it has a place.
 
  I've got the key to the highway
  And I'm billed out and bound to go
  I'm gonna leave here runnin'
  'Cause walkin' is most to slow
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN_f0WVsHuw Â
 
 
 
  
   From: emptybill
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:40 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
  
  
  Â
  Unabated mugging as usual.
  
  Just goes to show that vasana-s
  can't be tricked by braggadocio
  nor by lightly disguised aggression.
  So ... channeling a rakshasa again?
  
  Yep, them ol' sanskara-s just
  won't stop poppin' off.
  Must be the old carnivore instinct.
  You eatin' at McDonald's again?
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You
and I
   never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would
have
  put us
   right back where we were.
  
   On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend  wrote:
  
**
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I
have
  about
30 more years on this planet.  I intend to use that time as
juicily
  and
joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add
to or
  at
least support the enjoyment of others.

 As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've
  decided to
not reply to certain kinds of posts to me.  I have felt so much
  better
since beginning to do this.  And FFL has seemed more fun too.

 As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin
anew
 and to drop conflicts from the past year.  I'm so grateful
 because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew.
   
Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew,
and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us
right back where we were.
   
You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts
from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them
going.
   
If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to
your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience
to explain it to you. I don't.
   
Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share.
   
   
 Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too.  I hope so.

 But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every
opportunity
  to
snipe nastily at me.  They continue to have a confrontational
tone
  towards
me, even on the most mundane of topics.  Weird!  Plus they
ignore it
  when I
do post a positive reply to them.


 You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with
her
  running
out of money situation would have better things to do with
their
  time and
energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me
into
  the new
year.  Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and
Robin!
  So IMO
there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this
grudge
  into the
new year.  And I won't be a part of it.



 I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. 
But I
  will
not reply to any posts that are nasty, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Doc but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
no biggee - I absolutely love contrasts, in harmony!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 You're right about that post to MJ, Doc.  I appreciated it.  Sorry.  Going 
 for a cheap laugh.  Comedian in training.  
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
 read to turq
  
 
   
 It's too much fun watching the Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc 
 here.
 
 Audience appropriate, is the way I characterize it, Share, and it changes 
 rapidly. Did you catch my last response to MJ? Very much like my postings on 
 the BatGap forum. 
 
 There's this buzzword in business and politics called emotional intelligence. 
 It basically means being present with whoever you are interacting with. So, I 
 express myself differently, depending on who I am interacting with, and the 
 environment.
 
 I would hardly characterize my different styles of communication as Dr Jekyl 
 and Mr Hyde. However, thanks for being a fan of mine, in a very convoluted 
 way.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the 
  Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor 
  Ann?  She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A 
  Row phenomenon.
  
  
  Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  
  Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because 
  you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool 
  people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  
  Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well 
  you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH. 
   But I like his wording better so there we are.  
  
  
  Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  
  Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, 
  both!    
  
  I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival 
  dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and 
  meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way 
  too high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you 
  because you are so cool.
  
  I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
  happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
  hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
  totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
  travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one. 
   Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
  
  
  Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
  for another day on FFL (-:
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
  know who ha ha
  
  
    
  Feste,
  
  Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
  stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course 
  )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his 
  family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
  
  But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so 
  much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has 
  everyone up in arms here.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
   
**
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, 
you
are ONLY JOKING.
   
Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
   
   
   Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
   and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really 
   scary
   to normal humans...LOL..
   
   
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚  My Mom has a 
   Saturn.ÃÆ'‚  Though not in her
garage.ÃÆ'‚  Just outside her condo.ÃÆ'‚  Well she 
actually doesn't have a
garage.ÃÆ'‚  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use 
it, etc.ÃÆ'‚  And
when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:

 I'm sorry.
 Please forgive me.
 I love you.
 Thank you.
Finally, a payoff from this exchange.  A good laugh.  Well actually #2. 
I liked the picture as well.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Look feste37 - clearly you have  no sense of humor eitherafter
 a script from Share straight out of Real Housewives of Somewhere,
 why can't it be commented on? If there is something about Share's
 mental health we need to know, please alert Alex or someone who can
 discreetly send out emails.^^ ^ 

Uh, no. Beneath the witty, übercool, Internet hipster, moderator facade is a 
nebbish hall monitor who *really* doesn't want to get involved with people's 
personal dramas.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
Ha ha ha.you see ShareI can totally laugh at what you said about me on 
this one.  Really, what a hoot.  I am *not* holding any animosity towards you 
for the recordI have processed my angst at what you said about me the last 
go round and my sense of humor has emerged intact. Hope yours did too.    




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do 
not read to turq
 

  
Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.







 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you know who ha ha

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
I defer to the Feline Overlord...




 From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
know who ha ha
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Look feste37 - clearly you have  no sense of humor eitherafter
 a script from Share straight out of Real Housewives of Somewhere,
 why can't it be commented on? If there is something about Share's
 mental health we need to know, please alert Alex or someone who can
 discreetly send out emails.^^ ^ 

Uh, no. Beneath the witty, übercool, Internet hipster, moderator facade is a 
nebbish hall monitor who *really* doesn't want to get involved with people's 
personal dramas.


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
Ah ha ha ha ha...Perfect Post Raunchy rides again...this is a keeper.  I do not 
know where you find these gems




 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
read to turq
 

  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy5bgD1RNOsfeature=youtube_gdata_player

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
 appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row 
 phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
 course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
 cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
 mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've 
 told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little 
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording 
 better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which 
 one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!   
  
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival 
 dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and 
 meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too 
 high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you 
 are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
 
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course ) 
  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family 
 visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in 
 arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one 
   which has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio 
   which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple 
   upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass 
   which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can 
   all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then 
   her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  
  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is 

[FairfieldLife] BBC News - Kumbh Mela: 'Eight million' bathers on first day of festival

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-21017217 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread emilymae.reyn
Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.  But, the 
focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a little 
disturbing to me, somehow.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:

 
 Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express paper, 
 regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her satsang just 
 before leaving on the N. India tour.
  
 http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
  
 Women, break your shackles and awaken
 By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
 Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in our 
 country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with no 
 consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and divine 
 thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God Consciousness in 
 everything and showing tolerance to the world, now becoming a land of asuric, 
 demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most brutal physical and emotional 
 abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go through, which finally claimed her 
 life.
  
 No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created from 
 woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow minds 
 will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain light to those who 
 only know darkness.
  
 Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is that no 
 external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities of 
 motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is sheâ€she 
 aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only real barrier 
 that prevents this from happening.
  
 The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to prevail 
 in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to exploit and 
 subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds have become 
 entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
  
 An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant living in 
 captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong rope. The 
 calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When its efforts 
 prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same elephant is fully 
 grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin rope. It could easily 
 free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the rope. But because its mind 
 has been conditioned by its prior experiences, it does not make the slightest 
 attempt to break free.
  
 This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in man 
 and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily break the 
 shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed on them.
  
 A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her creative, 
 life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far more 
 significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In today’s 
 world, where everything is being contaminated and made unnatural, women 
 should take extra care that her qualities of motherhoodâ€her essential 
 nature as a womanâ€don’t become contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether 
 woman or man, one’s real humanity comes to light only when the feminine and 
 masculine qualities within one are balanced.
  
 India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all 
 spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, spiritual 
 luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not acknowledged enough in 
 our history books or in the social media, their contribution has been 
 prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow with time.
  
 The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal motherhood. 
 Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of motherhood within 
 themselves. This is the only way to realise our dream of peace and harmony. 
 And it can be done! It is entirely up to us. Let us remember that real 
 leadership is not to dominate or to control, but to serve others with love 
 and compassion, and to inspire women and men alike through the example of our 
 lives.
  
 Let us all pray that cruel minds, which denigrate women, be transformed. May 
 the Paramatma help them to follow our rich tradition, and respect the women 
 of this country and all other countries.
  
 The writer is a world renowned spiritual leader
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 * * * * * * * * * 
 The more Love you give, the more your heart is filled with Love.
 Love is like a never ending stream. -Amma





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh no dear Em, she's one of the gang of teenagers here - my nephew's friend.  
Very entertaining. The festival today involved loud music  kite flying from 
the top of the apartment terrace - about 8 stories high - lot of fun today.


On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The cutest picture ever.  Your sister? is beautiful.  
 
 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
 
  
 Empty baby - I may be in India and busy and may have ignored you but remember 
 Devi  I always love you. Here's a picture just for you - 
 http://flic.kr/p/dLv7ev
 
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:33 AM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
 And steel wool at that.
 It keeps me from taking
 anyone too seriously here.
 
 'Cept for Ravioli, who can't
 help singing his own aria ...
 The Raving Rakshasha.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
  
   Share maintained her whole shtick against all the people she
   doesn't like, trashed them good again, and did it all while
   thinking she was putting out sweetness and light. I noted
   she felt a lot better today.
 
  I was thinking that surely her act must be wearing a little
  thin even for her admirers by now, with that post yesterday
  and then the tiresomely predictable butter-wouldn't-melt-in-
  my-mouth number today when she saw it wasn't going over
  quite as she had planned. Sheesh, even Ravi isn't happy with
  her.
 
  But it seems Our EmptyBill is eager to ride to her rescue
  nonetheless, wool still firmly glued to his eyes.
 
 
 
 
 
   I actually did let the BS in 2012 go and was feeling very detached
 about it all and willing to start fresh and be less reactive to what I
 perceive as her attacks, but now, despite my efforts, I have the blues
 again. Â Here's one from Big Bill Broonzy - Key to the Highway. Â
 It's not opera, but it has a place.
  
   I've got the key to the highway
   And I'm billed out and bound to go
   I'm gonna leave here runnin'
   'Cause walkin' is most to slow
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN_f0WVsHuw Â
  
  
  
   
From: emptybill
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:40 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
   
   
   Â
   Unabated mugging as usual.
   
   Just goes to show that vasana-s
   can't be tricked by braggadocio
   nor by lightly disguised aggression.
   So ... channeling a rakshasa again?
   
   Yep, them ol' sanskara-s just
   won't stop poppin' off.
   Must be the old carnivore instinct.
   You eatin' at McDonald's again?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
   
Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You
 and I
never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would
 have
   put us
right back where we were.
   
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote:
   
 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I
 have
   about
 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as
 juicily
   and
 joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add
 to or
   at
 least support the enjoyment of others.
 
  As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've
   decided to
 not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much
   better
 since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too.
 
  As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin
 anew
  and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful
  because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew.

 Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew,
 and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us
 right back where we were.

 You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts
 from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them
 going.

 If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to
 your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience
 to explain it to you. I don't.

 Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share.


  Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so.
 
  But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every
 opportunity
   to
 snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational
 tone
   towards
 me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they
 ignore it
   when I
 do post a positive reply to them.
 
 
  You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with
 her
   running
 out of money situation would have better things to do with
 their
   time and
 energy and attention than to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't we having 
fun now?!





 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
read to turq
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  She 
 appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well of 
 course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are so 
 cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to say 
 mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as you've told 
 us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it a little 
 differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like his wording 
 better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  Which 
 one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, both!    
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival dharma 
 to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and meditate.  
 Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too high!  What 
 chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.

I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
 
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course )  
 And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his family 
 visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up in 
 arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one which 
   has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio which
   evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
   caving in.  She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple 
   upstairs and
   the shoddy contractors now long gone.  Then some grass on which she
   doesn't like dogs to poop.  Then a sidewalk.  Then more grass 
   which she
   also prefers to remain a poop free zone.  Which I'm hoping we can all
   understand, even the dog lovers here.  Then a curb.  And then 
   her very
   own handicapped parking space.Â
  That's where she keeps her Saturn.  Which is white BTW.  
  Thank God
   not a creamy white which is associated with the Moon.  But more of a 
   Venus
   

[FairfieldLife] Mark Tully Reports on The Kumbh Mela

2013-01-14 Thread martin.quickman
A nice report from Mark Tully, former BBC correpondent, on the start of this 
morning's Kumbha Meha in Allahabad, India

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/the-magic-of-india-mark-tully-child-of-light/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread feste37
Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in the first 
sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it for her. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:

 Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.  But, the 
 focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a little 
 disturbing to me, somehow.   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
  
  Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express paper, 
  regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her satsang just 
  before leaving on the N. India tour.
   
  http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
   
  Women, break your shackles and awaken
  By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
  Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in our 
  country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with no 
  consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and 
  divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God Consciousness 
  in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now becoming a land of 
  asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most brutal physical and 
  emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go through, which finally 
  claimed her life.
   
  No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created from 
  woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow minds 
  will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain light to those 
  who only know darkness.
   
  Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is that no 
  external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities of 
  motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is sheâ€she 
  aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only real 
  barrier that prevents this from happening.
   
  The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to prevail 
  in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to exploit and 
  subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds have become 
  entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
   
  An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant living 
  in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong rope. 
  The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When its 
  efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same elephant is 
  fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin rope. It 
  could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the rope. But 
  because its mind has been conditioned by its prior experiences, it does not 
  make the slightest attempt to break free.
   
  This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in man 
  and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily break the 
  shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed on them.
   
  A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her 
  creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far 
  more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In 
  today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made unnatural, 
  women should take extra care that her qualities of motherhoodâ€her 
  essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become contaminated and distorted. 
  Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real humanity comes to light only when 
  the feminine and masculine qualities within one are balanced.
   
  India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all 
  spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, spiritual 
  luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not acknowledged enough in 
  our history books or in the social media, their contribution has been 
  prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow with time.
   
  The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal motherhood. 
  Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of motherhood within 
  themselves. This is the only way to realise our dream of peace and harmony. 
  And it can be done! It is entirely up to us. Let us remember that real 
  leadership is not to dominate or to control, but to serve others with love 
  and compassion, and to inspire women and men alike through the example of 
  our lives.
   
  Let us all pray that cruel minds, which denigrate women, be transformed. 
  May the Paramatma help them to follow our rich tradition, and respect the 
  women of this country and all other countries.
   
  The writer is a world renowned spiritual leader
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  * * * * * * * * * 
  The more Love you give, the more your heart is filled with Love.
  Love is like a never ending stream. -Amma
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread emilymae.reyn
The number of people that congregate for this is spiritual in itself.  I 
recommended this to an acquaintance of mine many years ago and he thought he 
was going to get a lot of spiritual insight from the movie.  He was very 
disappointed.  I was on sensory overload through the entire thing.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 I own a copy of it.
 
 On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
  Did you ever see the Short Cut to Nirvana documentary.  I loved the movie 
  from a visual perspective.
 
  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short-cut-to-nirvana/
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Bhairitu 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:23 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Kumbh Mela Streams
 
 
 
  The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
  time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
  apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
  http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
 
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread emilymae.reyn
In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece to some 
extent.  Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her speeches, from 
what I hear.  When I went to go see her, we sat for 45 minutes while she talked 
at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an immediate direct translation 
from Big Swami that was pages long and obviously pre-written.  Who knows what 
she really said to us.  There are a lot of things wrong with this statement in 
my view, but I don't have the interest in breaking it all down.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in the 
 first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it for her. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:
 
  Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.  But, the 
  focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a little 
  disturbing to me, somehow.   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
  
   
   Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express paper, 
   regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her satsang 
   just before leaving on the N. India tour.

   http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece

   Women, break your shackles and awaken
   By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
   Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in 
   our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with 
   no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and 
   divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God 
   Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now 
   becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the 
   most brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had 
   to go through, which finally claimed her life.

   No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created from 
   woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow 
   minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain light to 
   those who only know darkness.

   Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is that 
   no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities of 
   motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is 
   sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only 
   real barrier that prevents this from happening.

   The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to 
   prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to 
   exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their 
   minds have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.

   An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant living 
   in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong 
   rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When 
   its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same 
   elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin 
   rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the 
   rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its prior experiences, 
   it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.

   This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in 
   man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily break 
   the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed on 
   them.

   A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her 
   creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far 
   more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In 
   today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made 
   unnatural, women should take extra care that her qualities of 
   motherhoodâ€her essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become 
   contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real 
   humanity comes to light only when the feminine and masculine qualities 
   within one are balanced.

   India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all 
   spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, 
   spiritual luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not 
   acknowledged enough in our history books or in the social media, their 
   contribution has been prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow with 
   time.

   The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal 
   motherhood. Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of 
   motherhood within themselves. This is the only way to realise our dream 
   of peace and harmony. And it can be done! It 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread feste37
Feste37 finds it very disturbing when people refer to themselves in the third 
person. It sounds weird.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:

 In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece to some 
 extent.  Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her speeches, from 
 what I hear.  When I went to go see her, we sat for 45 minutes while she 
 talked at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an immediate direct 
 translation from Big Swami that was pages long and obviously pre-written.  
 Who knows what she really said to us.  There are a lot of things wrong with 
 this statement in my view, but I don't have the interest in breaking it all 
 down.  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in the 
  first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it for 
  her. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:
  
   Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.  But, 
   the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a 
   little disturbing to me, somehow.   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
   

Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express 
paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her 
satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.
 
http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
 
Women, break your shackles and awaken
By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in 
our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with 
no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique 
and divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God 
Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now 
becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the 
most brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had 
to go through, which finally claimed her life.
 
No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created 
from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their 
narrow minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain 
light to those who only know darkness.
 
Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is 
that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate 
qualities of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. 
It is sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is 
the only real barrier that prevents this from happening.
 
The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to 
prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to 
exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their 
minds have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
 
An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant 
living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a 
strong rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the 
rope. When its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when 
the same elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree 
with a thin rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or 
breaking the rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its 
prior experiences, it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.
 
This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in 
man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily 
break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has 
imposed on them.
 
A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her 
creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a 
far more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In 
today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made 
unnatural, women should take extra care that her qualities of 
motherhoodâ€her essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become 
contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real 
humanity comes to light only when the feminine and masculine qualities 
within one are balanced.
 
India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all 
spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, 
spiritual luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not 
acknowledged enough in our history books or in the social media, their 
contribution has been prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow 
with time.
 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Well the main issue is that Amma somehow represents modern women and can
somehow spearhead their concerns. A woman who kick started her career
displaying divine mother possession tricks of her crude, uncivilized
village culture in a mystically intoxicated state, a divine mother whose
purity is derived from her supposed, specious ability to not pee or
menstruate is an anathema to modern women. One look at her ashram in India
should be enough to discern the traditional, conservative, misogynist
values she represents.


It's very revolting to read her platitudes. Osho - in spite of the
dangerous cult he created - was headed in the right direction.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:17 PM, emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece to
 some extent. Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her
 speeches, from what I hear. When I went to go see her, we sat for 45
 minutes while she talked at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an
 immediate direct translation from Big Swami that was pages long and
 obviously pre-written. Who knows what she really said to us. There are a
 lot of things wrong with this statement in my view, but I don't have the
 interest in breaking it all down.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
 
  Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in the
 first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it for
 her.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:
  
   Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is. But,
 the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a
 little disturbing to me, somehow.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:
   
   
Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express
 paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her
 satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.
   
   
 http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
   
Women, break your shackles and awaken
By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men
 in our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with
 no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and
 divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God Consciousness
 in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now becoming a land of
 asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most brutal physical and
 emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go through, which finally
 claimed her life.
   
No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created
 from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow
 minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain light to
 those who only know darkness.
   
Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is
 that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities
 of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is
 sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only
 real barrier that prevents this from happening.
   
The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to
 prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to exploit
 and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds have
 become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
   
An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant
 living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong
 rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When
 its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same
 elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin
 rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the
 rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its prior experiences,
 it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.
   
This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent
 in man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily
 break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed
 on them.
   
A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her
 creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far
 more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In
 today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made unnatural,
 women should take extra care that her qualities of motherhoodâ€her
 essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become contaminated and distorted.
 Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real humanity comes to light only when
 the feminine and masculine qualities within one are balanced.
   
India has 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Well Amma always refers to herself in third person - it's an integral part
of the Guru aura and the deception that goes along with it.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Feste37 finds it very disturbing when people refer to themselves in the
 third person. It sounds weird.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:
 
  In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece to
 some extent. Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her
 speeches, from what I hear. When I went to go see her, we sat for 45
 minutes while she talked at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an
 immediate direct translation from Big Swami that was pages long and
 obviously pre-written. Who knows what she really said to us. There are a
 lot of things wrong with this statement in my view, but I don't have the
 interest in breaking it all down.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in
 the first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it
 for her.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:
   
Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.
 But, the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is
 a little disturbing to me, somehow.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:


 Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express
 paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her
 satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.


 http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece

 Women, break your shackles and awaken
 By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
 Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of
 men in our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects,
 with no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique
 and divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God
 Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now
 becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most
 brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go
 through, which finally claimed her life.

 No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is
 created from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their
 narrow minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain
 light to those who only know darkness.

 Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth
 is that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate
 qualities of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It
 is sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the
 only real barrier that prevents this from happening.

 The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue
 to prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to
 exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds
 have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.

 An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant
 living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong
 rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When
 its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same
 elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin
 rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the
 rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its prior experiences,
 it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.

 This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential
 inherent in man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can
 easily break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has
 imposed on them.

 A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in
 her creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a
 far more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In
 today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made unnatural,
 women should take extra care that her qualities of motherhoodâ€her
 essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become contaminated and distorted.
 Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real humanity comes to light only when
 the feminine and masculine qualities within one are balanced.

 India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to
 all spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers,
 spiritual luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not acknowledged
 enough in our history books or in the social media, their contribution has
 been prolific. This legacy has to continue and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
It is also a literary technique that Share is learning in her Monday writing 
group.  She enjoys experimenting with it.  





 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder
 

  
Feste37 finds it very disturbing when people refer to themselves in the third 
person. It sounds weird. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:

 In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece to some 
 extent.  Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her speeches, from 
 what I hear.  When I went to go see her, we sat for 45 minutes while she 
 talked at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an immediate direct 
 translation from Big Swami that was pages long and obviously pre-written.  
 Who knows what she really said to us.  There are a lot of things wrong with 
 this statement in my view, but I don't have the interest in breaking it all 
 down. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in the 
  first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it for 
  her. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn  wrote:
  
   Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.  But, 
   the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a 
   little disturbing to me, somehow. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
   

Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express 
paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her 
satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.

http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece

Women, break your shackles and awaken
By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in 
our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with 
no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique 
and divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God 
Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now 
becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the 
most brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had 
to go through, which finally claimed her life.

No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created 
from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their 
narrow minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain 
light to those who only know darkness.

Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is 
that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate 
qualities of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. 
It is sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is 
the only real barrier that prevents this from happening.

The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to 
prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to 
exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their 
minds have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.

An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant 
living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a 
strong rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the 
rope. When its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when 
the same elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree 
with a thin rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or 
breaking the rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its 
prior experiences, it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.

This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in 
man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily 
break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has 
imposed on them.

A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her 
creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a 
far more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In 
today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made 
unnatural, women should take extra care that her qualities of 
motherhoodâ€her essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become 
contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real 
humanity comes to light only when the feminine and masculine qualities 
within one are balanced.

India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And of course I can totally relate to referring oneself in the third
person, I have done this many times and it looks so silly in retrospect.
The mystically intoxicated state creates such a sense of oneness, unity
that it's very natural to refer to oneself in the third person. But surely
it passes away, what comes after is the most interesting part. Here Amma
being uneducated and growing up in a crude, unsophisticated village culture
could only interpret her mystical intoxication in this crude, medieval
context. But sooner or later she would have realized this mystical
deception but power, attention absolutely corrupts.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well Amma always refers to herself in third person - it's an integral part
 of the Guru aura and the deception that goes along with it.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Feste37 finds it very disturbing when people refer to themselves in the
 third person. It sounds weird.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:
 
  In that she is the Divine Mother - it could be viewed as a PR piece
 to some extent. Her swami (Big Swami) writes many, if not all, of her
 speeches, from what I hear. When I went to go see her, we sat for 45
 minutes while she talked at everyone in Malayalam and then listened to an
 immediate direct translation from Big Swami that was pages long and
 obviously pre-written. Who knows what she really said to us. There are a
 lot of things wrong with this statement in my view, but I don't have the
 interest in breaking it all down.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   Did Amma really write this? If so, why does she refer to herself (in
 the first sentence) in the third person? It sounds like someone wrote it
 for her.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:
   
Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is.
 But, the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is
 a little disturbing to me, somehow.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:


 Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian
 Express paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at
 her satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.


 http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece

 Women, break your shackles and awaken
 By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
 Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of
 men in our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects,
 with no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique
 and divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God
 Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now
 becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most
 brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go
 through, which finally claimed her life.

 No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is
 created from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their
 narrow minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain
 light to those who only know darkness.

 Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth
 is that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate
 qualities of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It
 is sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the
 only real barrier that prevents this from happening.

 The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue
 to prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to
 exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their minds
 have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.

 An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an
 elephant living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with
 a strong rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the
 rope. When its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the
 same elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a
 thin rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking
 the rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its prior
 experiences, it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.

 This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential
 inherent in man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can
 easily break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has
 imposed on them.

 A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in
 her creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a
 far more significant change in society than men can ever 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't we
 having fun now?!


   --
 *From:* Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution
 do not read to turq




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the
 Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?Â
 She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row
 phenomenon.
 
 
  Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?Â
 Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because
 you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool
 people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?Â
 Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well
 you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.Â
 But I like his wording better so there we are.Â
 
 
  Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?Â
 Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck,
 both! Â Â
 
  I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival
 dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
 meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too
 high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you
 are so cool.
 
  I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.Â
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.

 I'm sorry.
 Please forgive me.
 I love you.
 Thank you.
 
 
  Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all
 set for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
  
  From: seventhray27
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to
 you know who ha ha
 
 
  Â
  Feste,
 
  Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann appears to
 be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
 course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up
 his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
  But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could garner so
 much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone
 up in arms here.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:
  
**
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
 know, you
are ONLY JOKING.
   
Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
   
  
   Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
 humorous
   and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really
 scary
   to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on! My Mom has a Saturn.Â
 Though not in her
garage. Just outside her condo. Well she actually doesn't
 have a
garage. So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it,
 etc. And
when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.Â
 First
there's the door. Well doors really. A sliding screen one
 which she
says is cheap and needs to be replaced. And then a wooden one
 which has 2
locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them. Then a patio
 which
evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls
 were
caving in. She's definitely putting that on the crazy couple
 upstairs and
the shoddy contractors now long gone. Then some grass on which
 she
doesn't like dogs to poop. Then a sidewalk. Then more
 grass which she
also prefers to remain a poop free zone. Which I'm hoping we
 can all
understand, even the dog lovers here. Then a curb. And
 then her very
own handicapped parking space.Â
   That's where she keeps her 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread raunchydog
http://youtu.be/sV69WBvFGBA

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't we 
 having fun now?!
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ann 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
 read to turq
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the 
  Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor 
  Ann?  She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A 
  Row phenomenon.
  
  
  Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  
  Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because 
  you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool 
  people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  
  Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well 
  you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH. 
   But I like his wording better so there we are.  
  
  
  Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  
  Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, 
  both!    
  
  I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival 
  dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and 
  meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way 
  too high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you 
  because you are so cool.
  
  I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
  happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
  hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
  totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
  travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one. 
   Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
 
 I'm sorry.
 Please forgive me.
 I love you.
 Thank you.
  
  
  Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
  for another day on FFL (-:
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
  know who ha ha
  
  
    
  Feste,
  
  Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
  stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course 
  )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his 
  family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
  
  But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so 
  much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has 
  everyone up in arms here.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
   
**
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:

 One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, 
you
are ONLY JOKING.
   
Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
   
   
   Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
   and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really 
   scary
   to normal humans...LOL..
   
   
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚  My Mom has a 
   Saturn.ÃÆ'‚  Though not in her
garage.ÃÆ'‚  Just outside her condo.ÃÆ'‚  Well she 
actually doesn't have a
garage.ÃÆ'‚  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use 
it, etc.ÃÆ'‚  And
when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that 
up.ÃÆ'‚  First
there's the door.ÃÆ'‚  Well doors really.ÃÆ'‚  A sliding 
screen one which she
says is cheap and needs to be replaced.ÃÆ'‚  And then a wooden 
one which has 2
locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.ÃÆ'‚  Then a 
patio which
evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the walls were
caving in.ÃÆ'‚  She's definitely putting that on the crazy 
couple upstairs and
the shoddy contractors now long gone.ÃÆ'‚  Then some grass on 
which she
doesn't like dogs to poop.ÃÆ'‚  Then a sidewalk.ÃÆ'‚  
Then more grass which she

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
Mocking is O.K. - as long as one doesn't interpret humor as a nasty snipe, 
progress is being made.  Or, if you prefer to interpret my post this 
way...this is meanness.  Ha. Emily is leaving now for her daily spiritual 
sojourn out into the freezing cold with the jack russell.  




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read 
to turq
 

  
Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't we 
having fun now?!







 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution do not 
read to turq
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun watching the Dr 
 Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about poor Ann?  
 She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row 
 phenomenon.
 
 
 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know why?  Well 
 of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.  Because you are 
 so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's ok for cool people to 
 say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're cool?  Because as 
 you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.  Well you said it 
 a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV MASH.  But I like 
 his wording better so there we are.  
 
 
 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.  Huh?  
 Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what the heck, 
 both!    
 
 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her archival 
 dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and 
 meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way too 
 high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive you because you 
 are so cool.
 
 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London.  What will 
 happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse 
 hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but they were 
 totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international 
 travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with that one.  
 Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.

I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.
 
 
 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be all set 
 for another day on FFL (-:
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not to you 
 know who ha ha
 
 
   
 Feste,
 
 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?  Ann appears to be 
 stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of course 
 )  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound up his 
 family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
 
 But kudos to Share.  Who would have thought that she could garner so much 
 attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has everyone up 
 in arms here.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann  wrote:
  
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I know, 
   you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that drivel...
  
  
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and really 
  scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!  My Mom has a Saturn.  Though 
  not in her
   garage.  Just outside her condo.  Well she actually doesn't 
   have a
   garage.  So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't use it, 
   etc.  And
   when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that up.  
   First
   there's the door.  Well doors really.  A sliding screen one 
   which she
   says is cheap and needs to be replaced.  And then a wooden one 
   which has 2
   locks though I'm only allowed to use one of them.  Then a patio 
   which
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27
No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
I'm unconvinced.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long  wrote:

  **
 
 
  I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't
we
  having fun now?!
 
 
--
  *From:* Ann
  *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
  *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
caution
  do not read to turq
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun
watching the
  Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about
poor Ann?Â
  She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A
Row
  phenomenon.
  
  
   Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know
why?Â
  Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
Because
  you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's
ok for cool
  people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're
cool?Â
  Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse
hockeys.  Well
  you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
MASH.Â
  But I like his wording better so there we are.Â
  
  
   Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of
coolness.  Huh?Â
  Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what
the heck,
  both! Â Â
  
   I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
archival
  dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit
and
  meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for
coolness way too
  high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive
you because you
  are so cool.
  
   I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. 
What will
  happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved
horse
  hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but
they were
  totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
international
  travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with
that one.Â
  Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less
cool.
 
  I'm sorry.
  Please forgive me.
  I love you.
  Thank you.
  
  
   Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll
be all
  set for another day on FFL (-:
  
  
   
   From: seventhray27
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but
not to
  you know who ha ha
  
  
   Â
   Feste,
  
   Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann
appears to
  be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor
of
  course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has
wound up
  his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
  
   But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could
garner so
  much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of
Batgap and has everyone
  up in arms here.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
   
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:
   
 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
 
  One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
this
 morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes,
I
  know, you
 are ONLY JOKING.

 Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
drivel...

   
Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
  humorous
and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
really
  scary
to normal humans...LOL..
   
   

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚ My Mom has a
Saturn.ÃÆ'‚
  Though not in her
 garage.ÃÆ'‚ Just outside her
condo.ÃÆ'‚ Well she actually doesn't
  have a
 garage.ÃÆ'‚ So it's not that she has a garage but
doesn't use it,
  etc.ÃÆ'‚ And
 when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
up.ÃÆ'‚
  First
 there's the door.ÃÆ'‚ Well doors
really.ÃÆ'‚ A sliding screen one
  which she
 says is cheap and needs to be replaced.ÃÆ'‚ And
then a wooden one
  which has 2
 locks though I'm only allowed to use one of
them.ÃÆ'‚ Then a patio
  which
 evidently had lots of drama the last few months in that the
walls
  were
 caving in.ÃÆ'‚ She's definitely putting that on
the crazy couple
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Why are so mad at me Steve? Oh no, wait - I guess I haven't said I love you
in a long time. I love you Steve and I miss you XOXO

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
 freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
 I'm unconvinced.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you. I love you too. Aren't we
   having fun now?!
  
  
   --
   *From:* Ann
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but caution

   do not read to turq
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap. It's too much fun watching
 the
   Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here. But what about poor
 Ann?Â

   She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row
   phenomenon.
   
   
Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me. Know why?Â
   Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
 Because
   you are so cool. And we all know from high school that it's ok for
 cool
   people to say mean and nasty things. How do we know you're cool?Â
   Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.Â
 Well
   you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
 MASH.Â
   But I like his wording better so there we are.Â
   
   
Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.Â
 Huh?Â
   Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it? Oh what the
 heck,
   both! Â Â

   
I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
 archival
   dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
   meditate. Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness way
 too
   high! What chance have we mere mortals: But we forgive you because
 you
   are so cool.
   
I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. What
 will

   happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse
   hockeys on a regular basis? Some suggestions came to mind but they
 were
   totally gross. Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for international
   travel if you know what I mean. So you're on your own with that
 one.Â

   Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
  
   I'm sorry.
   Please forgive me.
   I love you.
   Thank you.
   
   
Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be
 all
   set for another day on FFL (-:
   
   

From: seventhray27
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but not
 to
   you know who ha ha
   
   
Â
Feste,
   
Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann appears
 to

   be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
   course )Â And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound
 up

   his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
   
But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could garner
 so
   much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has
 everyone

   up in arms here.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:

  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
 this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
   know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
 drivel...
 

 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
   humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
 really
   scary
 to normal humans...LOL..


 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚ My Mom has a
 Saturn.ÃÆ'‚
   Though not in her
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ Just outside her condo.ÃÆ'‚ Well she
 actually doesn't
   have a
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ So it's not that she has a garage but doesn't
 use it,
   etc.ÃÆ'‚ And
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
 up.ÃÆ'‚
   First
  there's the door.ÃÆ'‚ Well doors really.ÃÆ'‚ A
 sliding 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread raunchydog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYEUAG8l8k

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
 freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
 I'm unconvinced.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long  wrote:
 
   **
  
  
   I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't
 we
   having fun now?!
  
  
 --
   *From:* Ann
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
 caution
   do not read to turq
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun
 watching the
   Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about
 poor Ann?Â
   She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A
 Row
   phenomenon.
   
   
Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know
 why?Â
   Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
 Because
   you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's
 ok for cool
   people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're
 cool?Â
   Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse
 hockeys.  Well
   you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
 MASH.Â
   But I like his wording better so there we are.Â
   
   
Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of
 coolness.  Huh?Â
   Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what
 the heck,
   both! Â Â
   
I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
 archival
   dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit
 and
   meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for
 coolness way too
   high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive
 you because you
   are so cool.
   
I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. 
 What will
   happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved
 horse
   hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but
 they were
   totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
 international
   travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with
 that one.Â
   Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less
 cool.
  
   I'm sorry.
   Please forgive me.
   I love you.
   Thank you.
   
   
Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll
 be all
   set for another day on FFL (-:
   
   

From: seventhray27
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but
 not to
   you know who ha ha
   
   
Â
Feste,
   
Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann
 appears to
   be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor
 of
   course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has
 wound up
   his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
   
But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could
 garner so
   much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of
 Batgap and has everyone
   up in arms here.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:

  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
 this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes,
 I
   know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
 drivel...
 

 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
   humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
 really
   scary
 to normal humans...LOL..


 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚ My Mom has a
 Saturn.ÃÆ'‚
   Though not in her
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ Just outside her
 condo.ÃÆ'‚ Well she actually doesn't
   have a
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ So it's not that she has a garage but
 doesn't use it,
   etc.ÃÆ'‚ And
  when I say just outside her condo I do want to clear that
 up.ÃÆ'‚
   First
  there's the door.ÃÆ'‚ Well doors
 really.ÃÆ'‚ A sliding screen one
   which she
  says is cheap and needs to be replaced.ÃÆ'‚ And
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why are so mad at me Steve? Oh no, wait - I guess I haven't said I love
 you in a long time. I love you Steve and I miss you XOXO


OMG I should have been clearer..I miss you - your loving, innocent,
stupidity - it's a very rare quality these days.





 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
 freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
 I'm unconvinced.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you. I love you too. Aren't we
   having fun now?!
  
  
   --
   *From:* Ann
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
 caution

   do not read to turq
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
   
Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap. It's too much fun
 watching the
   Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here. But what about poor
 Ann?Â

   She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row
   phenomenon.
   
   
Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me. Know why?Â
   Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
 Because
   you are so cool. And we all know from high school that it's ok for
 cool
   people to say mean and nasty things. How do we know you're cool?Â
   Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.Â
 Well
   you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
 MASH.Â
   But I like his wording better so there we are.Â
   
   
Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.Â
 Huh?Â
   Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it? Oh what the
 heck,
   both! Â Â

   
I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
 archival
   dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
   meditate. Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness
 way too
   high! What chance have we mere mortals: But we forgive you
 because you
   are so cool.
   
I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. What
 will

   happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse
   hockeys on a regular basis? Some suggestions came to mind but they
 were
   totally gross. Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
 international
   travel if you know what I mean. So you're on your own with that
 one.Â

   Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
  
   I'm sorry.
   Please forgive me.
   I love you.
   Thank you.
   
   
Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be
 all
   set for another day on FFL (-:
   
   

From: seventhray27
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but
 not to
   you know who ha ha
   
   
Â
Feste,
   
Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann
 appears to

   be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
   course )Â And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has wound
 up

   his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.
   
But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could garner
 so
   much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap and has
 everyone

   up in arms here.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:

  **
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
  
   One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
 this
  morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
   know, you
  are ONLY JOKING.
 
  Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
 drivel...
 

 Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
   humorous
 and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
 really
   scary
 to normal humans...LOL..


 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚ My Mom has a
 Saturn.ÃÆ'‚
   Though not in her
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ Just outside her condo.ÃÆ'‚ Well she
 actually doesn't
   have a
  garage.ÃÆ'‚ So it's not that she has a garage 

[FairfieldLife] Man Reads Book

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008

Fortunately, Raj Patel makes it clear his opinion on GM crops:
Man Reads Book
By Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/  on 01/14/2013 in Uncategorized
http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/

It was such a non-issue that I really didn't want to write about it
at all. I didn't know who Mark Lynas was and didn't know that he
had changed his mind about genetically modified crops from being an
opponent to a fan. But, clearly, it was a slow news week. The killing
and the rape and the corporate crime and the climate change had been
successfully reported. So a range of news outlets decided to give Lynas
the air time he wanted, following this speech
http://www.marklynas.org/2013/01/lecture-to-oxford-farming-conference-3\
-january-2013/ .



Frankly, there's not much to read. Mark Lynas opposed GM crops
because he thought they were bad but now he has `discovered
science', and that makes him a better environmentalist and a
supporter of the pesticide industry's sale of genetically modified
crops and it possibly makes him regret studying politics and modern
history.

In general, it's a good thing that people discover science. It
usually means they've left behind dogma in favour of peer review and
data. In this piece http://www.foodfirst.org/en/GMO+uproar+in+EU ,
scientist John Vandermeer welcomes Lynas to science, and looks forward
to Lynas' reading more science in the future. After all, some of the
most reasoned arguments against GM crops come from those who have
embraced science for far longer than Lynas. GM Free Cymru
http://www.gmfreecymru.org/pivotal_papers/lynas_school.html  and The
Union of Concerned Scientists note, though, that Lynas hasn't really
given up on the dogma
http://blog.ucsusa.org/science-dogma-and-mark-lynas/ , seeming to have
swapped his old prejudices for the kind of pro-business platform
that'll keep him flush with industry conference honoraria for the
next year or two.

There's really not much more to be said. It could be that Lynas
will, like Bjorn Lomborg, noisily muddle from one position to another,
trailing the scientific debates by a decade, but anticipating the winds
of conservative thinking by a month or two. Ultimately, though, it
matters little. While Lynas embarks on his journey from knee-jerkery to
scientific neophyte to, we hope, scientific sophisticate, science and
sustainable farming are demonstrating both that GM crops are irrelevant
in feeding the world, and that they're the worst among many far
better alternatives. Which is a far more interesting story to report
than that Mark Lynas has read a book.

rajpatel.org



[FairfieldLife] Protecting Those Who Protect Us: PTSD Relief for Officers of the Law

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDUtBqmAurEfeature=player_embedded



[FairfieldLife] Re: Protecting Those Who Protect Us: PTSD Relief for Officers of the Law

2013-01-14 Thread feste37


Lovely video, wonderful story. Let's hope Michael Jackson watches it and drops 
his stupid opposition to teaching TM to vets to combat PTSD.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDUtBqmAurEfeature=player_embedded





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27
Oh, this is just too sweet.  I think what it is Rav, is that your time
in India must be nearing an end, and the thought of returning the
America is causing you trepidation.
Hey, I perfectly understand.  You may be more suited to the Indian
culture which is not so fast paced.   And now you are coming back to a
culture you have worked so hard to understand and adapt to, but it is
still not a good fit.
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out.
I'm here for ya brother.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:

  Why are so mad at me Steve? Oh no, wait - I guess I haven't said I
love
  you in a long time. I love you Steve and I miss you XOXO


 OMG I should have been clearer..I miss you - your loving, innocent,
 stupidity - it's a very rare quality these days.



 
 
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM, seventhray27 wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights
and
  freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among
equals.
  I'm unconvinced.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
  
   Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking
you.
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long wrote:
  
**
 
   
   
I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you. I love you too.
Aren't we
having fun now?!
   
   
--
*From:* Ann
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
  caution
 
do not read to turq
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap. It's too
much fun
  watching the
Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here. But
what about poor
  Ann?Â
 
She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts
In A Row
phenomenon.


 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about
me. Know why?Â
Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the
record.Â
  Because
you are so cool. And we all know from high school
that it's ok for
  cool
people to say mean and nasty things. How do we know
you're cool?Â
Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse
hockeys.Â
  Well
you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on
TV
  MASH.Â
But I like his wording better so there we are.Â


 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of
coolness.Â
  Huh?Â
Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?Â
Oh what the
  heck,
both! Â Â
 

 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
  archival
dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than
sit and
meditate. Girl, with that one, you have set the bar
for coolness
  way too
high! What chance have we mere mortals:Â
But we forgive you
  because you
are so cool.

 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to
London. What
  will
 
happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your
beloved horse
hockeys on a regular basis? Some suggestions came to
mind but they
  were
totally gross. Plus I'm not sure of the regulations
for
  international
travel if you know what I mean. So you're on your
own with that
  one.Â
 
Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less
cool.
   
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.


 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and
we'll be
  all
set for another day on FFL (-:


 
 From: seventhray27
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno
but
  not to
you know who ha ha


 Â
 Feste,

 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they?
 Ann
  appears to
 
be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good
humor of
course )Â And I am speculating that Ravi is winding
up, or has wound
  up
 
his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting
here.

 But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that
she could garner
  so
much attention. Â She leaves the safeÂ
environs of Batgap and has
  everyone
 
up in arms here.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:
 
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first
thing
  this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh
yes, I
know, you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/



So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given 
it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty 
of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here. 
Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a 
naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
  The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
  time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
  apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
  http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
 
 
 
 So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given 
 it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty 
 of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here. 
 Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a 
 naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.


I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some time in the 
future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.

http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/14/2013 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/


 So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given
 it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty
 of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here.
 Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a
 naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.

 I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some time in 
 the future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.

 http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/

Keep in mind the time differences.  Right now it's almost 2:30 AM in India.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 On 01/14/2013 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
  On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
  The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
  time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
  apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
  http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
 
 
  So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given
  it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty
  of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here.
  Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a
  naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.
 
  I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some time in 
  the future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.
 
  http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/
 
 Keep in mind the time differences.  Right now it's almost 2:30 AM in India.


These are streaming, but as you say it's early morning there. 3 more hours and 
it could become very interesting:
http://yuvatarang.blogspot.no/2013/01/watch-online-144-years-maha-kumbh-mela.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to Emptybill

2013-01-14 Thread Share Long
No but I did have some spicy tandoori chicken at India Cafe yesterday (-:  
Thank you Emptybill and are you a monk?  Where did I read that?  An opera 
loving monk.

I wish I could love opera and marry an opera loving monk.  Am doing art of 
neutrality on opera.  Will bet back to you on that.




 From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
 

  
Unabated mugging as usual.

Just goes to show that vasana-s
can't be tricked by braggadocio
nor by lightly disguised aggression.
So ... channeling a rakshasa again?

Yep, them ol' sanskara-s just
won't stop poppin' off.
Must be the old carnivore instinct.
You eatin' at McDonald's again?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I
 never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have
put us
 right back where we were.

 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend  wrote:

  **
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
  
   During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have
about
  30 more years on this planet.  I intend to use that time as juicily
and
  joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or
at
  least support the enjoyment of others.
  
   As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've
decided to
  not reply to certain kinds of posts to me.  I have felt so much
better
  since beginning to do this.  And FFL has seemed more fun too.
  
   As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew
   and to drop conflicts from the past year.  I'm so grateful
   because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew.
 
  Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew,
  and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us
  right back where we were.
 
  You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts
  from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them
  going.
 
  If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to
  your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience
  to explain it to you. I don't.
 
  Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share.
 
 
   Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too.  I hope so.
  
   But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity
to
  snipe nastily at me.  They continue to have a confrontational tone
towards
  me, even on the most mundane of topics.  Weird!  Plus they ignore it
when I
  do post a positive reply to them.
  
  
   You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her
running
  out of money situation would have better things to do with their
time and
  energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into
the new
  year.  Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! 
So IMO
  there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge
into the
  new year.  And I won't be a part of it.
  
  
  
   I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing.  But I
will
  not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending,
confrontational,
  snide, etc.  In other words, grudgy!  Who does such exchanges
benefit?  NO
  ONE!
  
  
   OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the
  holidays and even more recently.  You all have shown me that it's
possible
  to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty.
  
   love and hugs
  
   Share
  
 
 
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  On 01/14/2013 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
   On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
   The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
   time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
   apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
   http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
  
  
   So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given
   it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty
   of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here.
   Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a
   naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.
  
   I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some time 
   in the future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.
  
   http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/
  
  Keep in mind the time differences.  Right now it's almost 2:30 AM in India.
 
 
 These are streaming, but as you say it's early morning there. 3 more hours 
 and it could become very interesting:

http://yuvatarang.blogspot.no/2013/01/watch-online-144-years-maha-kumbh-mela.html
 
Action has started, looks like the sun is rising :-) 
Tune in, it's YUPPTV :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
Definitely party time at 4:40AM! Can't imagine parking, and trying to find my 
car later.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
  
   On 01/14/2013 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event 
and
apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
   
   
So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given
it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty
of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here.
Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a
naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.
   
I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some 
time in the future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.
   
http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/
   
   Keep in mind the time differences.  Right now it's almost 2:30 AM in 
   India.
  
  
  These are streaming, but as you say it's early morning there. 3 more hours 
  and it could become very interesting:
 
 http://yuvatarang.blogspot.no/2013/01/watch-online-144-years-maha-kumbh-mela.html
  
 Action has started, looks like the sun is rising :-) 
 Tune in, it's YUPPTV :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
Hey Ravi, I am glad you are in India - I probably won't go in this lifetime, so 
it is always wonderful to hear about it from a personal viewpoint like yours.

As for Steve, you may want to consider the difference between stupidity, and 
simplicity and subtlety. Hu-Mung-O difference, to put it scientifically.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:
 
  Why are so mad at me Steve? Oh no, wait - I guess I haven't said I love
  you in a long time. I love you Steve and I miss you XOXO
 
 
 OMG I should have been clearer..I miss you - your loving, innocent,
 stupidity - it's a very rare quality these days.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM, seventhray27 wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
  freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
  I'm unconvinced.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
  
   Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long wrote:
  
**
 
   
   
I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you. I love you too. Aren't we
having fun now?!
   
   
--
*From:* Ann
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
  caution
 
do not read to turq
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap. It's too much fun
  watching the
Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here. But what about poor
  Ann?Â
 
She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A Row
phenomenon.


 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me. Know 
 why?Â
Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
  Because
you are so cool. And we all know from high school that it's ok for
  cool
people to say mean and nasty things. How do we know you're 
cool?Â
Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse hockeys.Â
  Well
you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
  MASH.Â
But I like his wording better so there we are.Â


 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of coolness.Â
  Huh?Â
Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it? Oh what the
  heck,
both! Â Â
 

 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
  archival
dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit and
meditate. Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for coolness
  way too
high! What chance have we mere mortals: But we forgive you
  because you
are so cool.

 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. What
  will
 
happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved horse
hockeys on a regular basis? Some suggestions came to mind but they
  were
totally gross. Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
  international
travel if you know what I mean. So you're on your own with that
  one.Â
 
Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less cool.
   
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.


 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll be
  all
set for another day on FFL (-:


 
 From: seventhray27
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but
  not to
you know who ha ha


 Â
 Feste,

 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann
  appears to
 
be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor of
course )Â And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has 
wound
  up
 
his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.

 But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could 
 garner
  so
much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of Batgap 
and has
  everyone
 
up in arms here.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:
 
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
  this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes, I
know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
  drivel...
  
 
  Dear Ann 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Duveyoung
So let me get this straight.  The Maharishi Effect is real, but 100,000,000 
praying sadhus are SO WRONG in how they meditate and pray that there is no 
discernible effect on world events?

This is how haughty the TMO was/is, and I bought into it 100% for at least a 
few years of my life.  

Zero effect, and yet we all went out there and put up posters about how we'd 
figured out THE METHOD for FORCING GOD TO BE NICE TO US.

And it only costs $2500.  (What's the price today?  Better ask Girish if he 
needs another Rolls.)

Three Kumbh Melas ago, I was already invested in TM to the tune of having given 
it EVERYTHING for five years.  After five years of TMO, I still thought that 
ALL THE PEOPLE OF INDIA WUT EVER WUZ missed the bigass secret.  

Unimaginable power of denial -- that's the only thing BIG about being in the 
TMO.  

Edg

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This 
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and 
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/





[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2013-01-14 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
===
Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 12 00:00:00 2013
End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 19 00:00:00 2013
361 messages as of (UTC) Mon Jan 14 23:42:12 2013

36 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
33 Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
27 Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
25 seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
25 doctordumb...@rocketmail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
20 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
17 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
15 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
15 authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
15 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
12 Carol jchwe...@gmail.com
12 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Jackson
Now you know you are gonna upset Nabby and company by making such statements - 
and you know the Marshy family prefers Bentlys





 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams
 

  
So let me get this straight.  The Maharishi Effect is real, but 100,000,000 
praying sadhus are SO WRONG in how they meditate and pray that there is no 
discernible effect on world events?

This is how haughty the TMO was/is, and I bought into it 100% for at least a 
few years of my life. 

Zero effect, and yet we all went out there and put up posters about how we'd 
figured out THE METHOD for FORCING GOD TO BE NICE TO US.

And it only costs $2500.  (What's the price today?  Better ask Girish if he 
needs another Rolls.)

Three Kumbh Melas ago, I was already invested in TM to the tune of having given 
it EVERYTHING for five years.  After five years of TMO, I still thought that 
ALL THE PEOPLE OF INDIA WUT EVER WUZ missed the bigass secret. 

Unimaginable power of denial -- that's the only thing BIG about being in the 
TMO. 

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This 
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and 
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
snip
 http://yuvatarang.blogspot.no/2013/01/watch-online-144-years-maha-kumbh-mela.html
  
 Action has started, looks like the sun is rising :-) 
 Tune in, it's YUPPTV :-)

I'm not getting streaming per se, but rather one frame about
every 5-6 seconds. Is that what everyone else is getting?





[FairfieldLife] Re: A FFL Meditator Survey

2013-01-14 Thread Buck
Dear FairfieldLife;
Seeing these results, as an old and conservative meditator I ask, is this the 
best that people on FairfieldLife can muster?
This number of people who have no survey opinion itself is remarkable.  It has 
to bring to mind whether members and people lurking here practice a proper 
meditation effectively at all.  This is concerning.  
As the results flowed in, this survey seems to indicate a troubling trend 
showing a poor quality of meditators here.  This larger number of mediators 
unable to answer evidently based on their own poor spiritual experience with 
group meditations is troubling; calls to question that meditators posting or 
lurking here should better attend to proper meditation with more discipline 
towards their time in meditation, regularity of practice, and even just 
attending to the practice.  It is shocking to see the general lack of 
experiential reference of people here on FFL given the remarkable science on 
group meditation otherwise for those who do practice it effectively.  This 
survey certainly calls to question the credibility of supposed meditators and 
spiritual people here on FFL.  In conclusion, clearly there is something 
significant here suggesting a profound need for better instruction, 
re-education, more checking of meditations, and in the least that the community 
of FFL should better sit up with renewed discipline about the practice. A 
meditation is a terrible thing to waste.  Waste not want not.  Attend to it.
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 Yep,, I do love the effect of group meditations.  They are spiritually so 
 vital and real with good meditators.  I've known this from even way back in 
 the group dhyan of old style silent Quaker Meeting.  Those people recognized 
 the enhanced value of it even 350 years ago.  Yet even as a young TM 
 meditator long over 40 years ago the Field effect of meditating in groups was 
 evident.  For some years in the Iowa town of my birth where I growed up there 
 was huge group meditations every week in the Union and they were powerful in 
 the spiritual experience of the Field Effect then.  Even held them at 
 noontime through the week. People flocked to them because of the spiritual 
 moment of them.   The Field effect of meditation in the Domes is really quite 
 incredible that way, large and palpable when you meditate there.  It's a 
 really nice place to meditate.
 
 It's really silly that people who even live here will not go there to 
 meditate but I appreciate the communal hurt.
 -Buck in the Dome 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
 
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
 
  I have to agree. :)
 
 Okay, thanks.
 
  
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:


 THE SURVEY:
 Posit,
 
 For where two or three (or more) have come together in 
 meditation, the
 transcendence is there amidst them.
 
 That,
 
 snip for brevity
 
 
 Experientially, For Practicing transcending meditators who 
 post to or
 lurk here on FFL,
 
 Agree:   [This is my experience].
 
 Disagree:  [This is not my experience].
 TO RESPOND to this survey, hit 'reply', answer, ' send':
 
  49 doctordumbass@,
 non-meditator 36 Emily Reyn
 non-meditator 34 Carol
  33 Share Long
  30 turquoiseb
 Disagree 29 Ann
  26 authfriend
  21 salyavin808
 Agree 21 nablusoss1008
 Agree 20 Buck
  15 Bhairitu
  13 card
  12 raunchydog
  12 Alex Stanley
  Agree  9 obbajeeba
   7 Bob Price
   6 Susan
   6 Jason
   Disagree5 Xenophaneros Anartaxius
   5 Duveyoung
 non-meditator  5 emilymae.reyn
   4 feste37
   4 John
   3 wgm4u
   3 seventhray27
   3 seekliberation
   3 merudanda
 Agree  3 merlin
   2 emptybill
   2 azgrey
 non-meditator  2 Ravi Chivukula
   2 Richard J. Williams
   1 laughinggull108
   1 Rick Archer
 Agree  1 martin.quickman
 Agree 1 Dick Mays
   Agree 1 Tom H

   
  
 

   
  
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
Looking at that stream it was probably a bit of recap from the previous 
night (they wouldn't be having fireworks at that time in the morning).

On 01/14/2013 03:15 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Definitely party time at 4:40AM! Can't imagine parking, and trying to find my 
 car later.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 On 01/14/2013 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 On 01/13/2013 06:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This
 time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and
 apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
 http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/


 So far I haven't found a live stream which is a little surprising given
 it India home of advanced genius technologists.  But there are plenty
 of video reports from all sorts of outlets, some already linked here.
 Maybe with live video they are afraid they might get it a picture of a
 naga's penis and Indian heads will explode.

 I found this one, but the stream is empty. Dunno if it'll work some time 
 in the future. Tried it in three different browsers... no go.

 http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/livestreaming/etv-uttarpradesh/
 Keep in mind the time differences.  Right now it's almost 2:30 AM in India.

 These are streaming, but as you say it's early morning there. 3 more hours 
 and it could become very interesting:
 http://yuvatarang.blogspot.no/2013/01/watch-online-144-years-maha-kumbh-mela.html
   
 Action has started, looks like the sun is rising :-)
 Tune in, it's YUPPTV :-)






[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda

2013-01-14 Thread Buck
There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public opinion 
shapers' on the internet.  I never realized this could happen on the internet.  
-Buck
The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to 
control news and manipulate opinion. Alex?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20982985


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight  wrote:

 
 
 Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in 
 southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four 
 times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely 
 say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving 
 consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights -- 
 thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient 
 lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus 
 some kundalini awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm 
 the last person to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I 
 usually have to infer this from the fact that my experience of myself is so 
 naturally transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my 
 Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care 
 and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good 
 idea since they can materialize.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
 
  On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi 
  Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi 
  Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the 
  source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of 
  God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only 
  to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some 
  sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, 
  emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
  type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light 
  is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper 
  articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even 
  though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people 
  are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, 
  healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to 
  date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the 
  recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's 
  basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more 
  than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill 
  the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% 
  of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems 
  are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA.
  
  There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light 
  outside.
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:

 Yes we are working on the grant proposals, none of them have yet been
submitted to any of the philanthropic institutions we are approaching
for funding - what difference does that make anyway?
You expressed an intent to help those suffering from PTSD.  I was
wondering what progress you had made toward that end.
 And if you can't understand that having something good taught by
people who are not examples of the good of that technique perhaps you
should learn something about logic and critical thinking.
Ok, you don't like the people who are in charge of the program and so
you feel they should be prevented from implementing the program.  How's
that philosophy working for you?

I really have a problem with my banking representative at US Bank.  I
feel she is unresponsive and arrogant.  Do you think I should begin a
campaign to have her fired, or should I just find a different bank? (and
so I did.  find a different bank)

  
 From: seventhray27
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD
vets, students, prison inmates, etc.


 Â

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
  You offer to challenge me to back up my statements. So challenge me
on this. I will be very plain.
 
  With TM and the sidhis, either it works or it doesn't work.
 
  If it does work, and the TMO has as much money as they appear to,
then it is criminal for them not to initiate a program such as I
outlined in this previous post. If they have the money and can save the
world, why are they not doing it. Back that up.

 Hey Michael, Why don't you try listening to what I said.  I said
TM can be judged by the results or lack of results in treating PTSD.Â
I didn't say anything about the sidhis or whether TM produces world
peace or any other claim.
 But you are so locked into your mindset that evidently you are unable
to examine this one application without bringing in all your other
peeves.Â
 That's fine, but it doesn't factor into whether TM helps PTSD or not
and it doesn't pertain to the point I was bringing up.Â
 As for me, personally, I got results.  I got results on the
practical level and the spiritual level.Â
 And as for backing up claims, it was you that said you wereÂ
working on grant proposals.  Do you understand that?  Those were
your words, your claim.  I asked how that was going and if you
actually submitted any proposals.  I guess you haven't.  I guess
that was just something to give you cover as you launch your usual rant.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public 
 opinion shapers' on the internet.  I never realized this could happen on the 
 internet.  -Buck
 The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to 
 control news and manipulate opinion. Alex?
 
 

The post was spam. But, it was also sufficiently Ru-ish that I thought I'd let 
it through one time on the chance that people might find it interesting. Card's 
responses lead me to believe I did the right thing.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27

Maharishi made a similiar comment.  He said, (paraphrased), that a
woman's creativity is so innate, that she doesn't even know how she
creates.  It happens automatically (as in the development of new life). 
I always liked that.  Personally I enjoyed these comments made by
Ammachi.  I saw nothing offensive about them.  In fact, I found them to
be inspirational.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:

 Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is. But,
the focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a
little disturbing to me, somehow.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:
 
 
  Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express
paper, regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her
satsang just before leaving on the N. India tour.
 
 
http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
 
  Women, break your shackles and awaken
  By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
  Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men
in our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects,
with no consideration of human values. Is this country that taught
unique and divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God
Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now
becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the
most brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had
to go through, which finally claimed her life.
 
  No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is
created from woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of
their narrow minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you
cannot explain light to those who only know darkness.
 
  Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is
that no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate
qualities of motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and
patience. It is sheâ€she aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A
woman’s mind is the only real barrier that prevents this from
happening.
 
  The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to
prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to
exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their
minds have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
 
  An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant
living in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a
strong rope. The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the
rope. When its efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when
the same elephant is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree
with a thin rope. It could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or
breaking the rope. But because its mind has been conditioned by its
prior experiences, it does not make the slightest attempt to break free.
 
  This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent
in man and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily
break the shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has
imposed on them.
 
  A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in
her creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a
far more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In
today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made
unnatural, women should take extra care that her qualities of
motherhoodâ€her essential nature as a womanâ€don’t
become contaminated and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man,
one’s real humanity comes to light only when the feminine and
masculine qualities within one are balanced.
 
  India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to
all spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers,
spiritual luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not
acknowledged enough in our history books or in the social media, their
contribution has been prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow
with time.
 
  The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal
motherhood. Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of
motherhood within themselves. This is the only way to realise our dream
of peace and harmony. And it can be done! It is entirely up to us. Let
us remember that real leadership is not to dominate or to control, but
to serve others with love and compassion, and to inspire women and men
alike through the example of our lives.
 
  Let us all pray that cruel minds, which denigrate women, be
transformed. May the Paramatma help them to follow our rich tradition,
and respect the women of this country and all other countries.
 
  The writer is a world renowned spiritual leader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  * * * * * * * * *
  The more Love you give, the more your heart is filled with Love.
  Love is like a never ending stream. -Amma
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Ann but caution do not read to turq

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27
Funny, at about 25 seconds, I thought he was saying the Hebrew pig.  Then I 
finally heard it right, The hero pig.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog  wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYEUAG8l8k
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:
 
  No, no.  Poor clueless Ravi.  The great champion of women's rights and
  freedoms.  Just ask him, he will tell you how he is first among equals.
  I'm unconvinced.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
   Oh poor Share, Ann is parroting your behavior - thereby mocking you.
  
   On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Share Long  wrote:
  
**
   
   
I'm sorry please forgive me too. Thank you.  I love you too.  Aren't
  we
having fun now?!
   
   
  --
*From:* Ann
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 11:06 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve  Ann but
  caution
do not read to turq
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Steve, just fyi I have not left Batgap.  It's too much fun
  watching the
Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde act of Doc there vs Doc here.  But what about
  poor Ann?Â
She appears to have been possessed by Emily of the Many Posts In A
  Row
phenomenon.


 Ann it's ok if you say mean and nasty things about me.  Know
  why?Â
Well of course YOU know why but just to say it for the record.Â
  Because
you are so cool.  And we all know from high school that it's
  ok for cool
people to say mean and nasty things.  How do we know you're
  cool?Â
Because as you've told us several times, you shovel horse
  hockeys.  Well
you said it a little differently than my source, Col. Potter on TV
  MASH.Â
But I like his wording better so there we are.Â


 Anyway we all know that this is the sine qua non of
  coolness.  Huh?Â
Which one, the shoveling or the telling us about it?  Oh what
  the heck,
both! Â Â

 I think you even once said, but I'll leave it to Judy and her
  archival
dharma to confirm, that you'd rather shovel horse hockeys than sit
  and
meditate.  Girl, with that one, you have set the bar for
  coolness way too
high!  What chance have we mere mortals:  But we forgive
  you because you
are so cool.

 I admit I worry a little about you and your trip to London. 
  What will
happen to all your coolness if you're not shoveling your beloved
  horse
hockeys on a regular basis?  Some suggestions came to mind but
  they were
totally gross.  Plus I'm not sure of the regulations for
  international
travel if you know what I mean.  So you're on your own with
  that one.Â
Anyway, we promise to love you even if you become a little less
  cool.
   
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.


 Now all we need is a pic of horse hockeys from Raunchy and we'll
  be all
set for another day on FFL (-:


 
 From: seventhray27
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment to Steve and Xeno but
  not to
you know who ha ha


 Â
 Feste,

 Some people have a strange sense of humor don't they? Â Ann
  appears to
be stuck in one type of interaction with Share, (all in good humor
  of
course )Â  And I am speculating that Ravi is winding up, or has
  wound up
his family visit, and is gearing up to his typical posting here.

 But kudos to Share. Â Who would have thought that she could
  garner so
much attention.  She leaves the safe environs of
  Batgap and has everyone
up in arms here.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ann wrote:
 
   **
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote:
   
One swipe at Share last night, then another one first thing
  this
   morning. Share really gets to you, doesn't she, wolf? Oh yes,
  I
know, you
   are ONLY JOKING.
  
   Yes she does Feste. I couldn't make heads or tails of that
  drivel...
  
 
  Dear Ann - I believe Share is trying her best to come across as
humorous
  and playful - that's when she comes across as totally nuts and
  really
scary
  to normal humans...LOL..
 
 
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  You guys are so right on!ÃÆ'‚ My Mom has a
  Saturn.ÃÆ'‚
Though not in her
   garage.ÃÆ'‚ Just outside her
  condo.ÃÆ'‚ Well she actually doesn't
have a
   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder

2013-01-14 Thread Emily Reyn
The statement is fine; my issue with it is based primarily on my lack of 
appreciation for her communication style and also because I am western-born and 
have a different cultural take on women.  But, I'm glad she made a statement as 
she is greatly revered and has influence over many and the statement makes some 
good points, whether she wrote it or not.   




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Delhi rape/murder
 

  
Maharishi made a similiar comment.  He said, (paraphrased), that a woman's 
creativity is so innate, that she doesn't even know how she creates.  It 
happens automatically (as in the development of new life).  I always liked 
that.  Personally I enjoyed these comments made by Ammachi.  I saw nothing 
offensive about them.  In fact, I found them to be inspirational.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote:

 Amma broke through a lot of social barriers to get where she is. But, the 
 focus on innate motherhood as the basis for female creativity is a little 
 disturbing to me, somehow. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  
  Amma posted an article which was printed in the New Indian Express paper, 
  regarding the Delhi tragedy. She spoke on this subject at her satsang just 
  before leaving on the N. India tour.
  
  http://newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/spirituality/article1407336.ece
  
  Women, break your shackles and awaken
  By Mata Amritanandamayi06th January 2013 12:00 AM
  Amma wishes to express her deep sorrow about the recent trend of men in 
  our country to trample women underfoot as pleasure-giving objects, with no 
  consideration of human values. Is this country that taught unique and 
  divine thoughts such as worshipping God as Mother, seeing God 
  Consciousness in everything and showing tolerance to the world, now 
  becoming a land of asuric, demonic minds? The latest atrocity was the most 
  brutal physical and emotional abuse that a young girl in Delhi had to go 
  through, which finally claimed her life.
  
  No one can question the reality of motherhoodâ€that man is created from 
  woman. Yet those who refuse to come out of the cocoon of their narrow 
  minds will never be able to comprehend thisâ€you cannot explain light to 
  those who only know darkness.
  
  Who should awaken woman? What obstructs her awakening? The truth is that 
  no external power can possibly obstruct woman or her innate qualities of 
  motherhoodâ€qualities such as love, empathy and patience. It is sheâ€she 
  aloneâ€who has to awaken herself. A woman’s mind is the only real 
  barrier that prevents this from happening.
  
  The rules and superstitious beliefs that degrade women, continue to 
  prevail in most countries. The primitive customs invented by men to 
  exploit and subjugate women remain alive to this day. Women and their 
  minds have become entangled in the cobweb of those customs.
  
  An elephant can uproot huge trees with its trunk. When an elephant living 
  in captivity is still a calf, it is tethered to a tree with a strong rope. 
  The calf elephant tries with all its might to break the rope. When its 
  efforts prove futile, it finally gives up. Later, when the same elephant 
  is fully grown, it can be tethered to any small tree with a thin rope. It 
  could easily free itself by uprooting the tree or breaking the rope. But 
  because its mind has been conditioned by its prior experiences, it does 
  not make the slightest attempt to break free.
  
  This is what is happening to women. The infinite potential inherent in man 
  and woman is the same. If women really want to, they can easily break the 
  shackles of the rules and conditioning that society has imposed on them.
  
  A woman’s greatest strength lies in her innate motherhood, in her 
  creative, life-giving power. This power can help women bring about a far 
  more significant change in society than men can ever accomplish. In 
  today’s world, where everything is being contaminated and made 
  unnatural, women should take extra care that her qualities of 
  motherhoodâ€her essential nature as a womanâ€don’t become contaminated 
  and distorted. Yet, whether woman or man, one’s real humanity comes to 
  light only when the feminine and masculine qualities within one are 
  balanced.
  
  India has had such a great legacy of women who have contributed to all 
  spheres of development in society; may it be warriors, teachers, spiritual 
  luminaries, musicians or social workers. Though not acknowledged enough in 
  our history books or in the social media, their contribution has been 
  prolific. This legacy has to continue and grow with time.
  
  The forthcoming age should be dedicated to awakening universal motherhood. 
  Women everywhere have to actualise the qualities of motherhood within 
  

[FairfieldLife] the most scary article you will read today

2013-01-14 Thread feste37
from Truthdig.com

I like Chris Hedges. He is such a doomsday merchant. 


The Myth of Human Progress

Posted on Jan 13, 2013

By Chris Hedges

Clive Hamilton in his “Requiem for a Species: Why We Resist the Truth About 
Climate Change” describes a dark relief that comes from accepting that 
“catastrophic climate change is virtually certain.” This obliteration of 
“false hopes,” he says, requires an intellectual knowledge and an emotional 
knowledge. The first is attainable. The second, because it means that those we 
love, including our children, are almost certainly doomed to insecurity, misery 
and suffering within a few decades, if not a few years, is much harder to 
acquire. To emotionally accept impending disaster, to attain the gut-level 
understanding that the power elite will not respond rationally to the 
devastation of the ecosystem, is as difficult to accept as our own mortality. 
The most daunting existential struggle of our time is to ingest this awful 
truthâ€intellectually and emotionallyâ€and continue to resist the forces that 
are destroying us.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_myth_of_human_progress_20130113/


 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
Girish and Co. really should go for Jaguars, now that the company is owned by 
Tata Motors [of India]. Seriously, Jaguar sales are taking off in China, and 
the rest of Asia, and this is spurring far better distribution of parts and 
service than you can hope for w/Bentley. Plus, the aftermarket for Jaguars 
rocks (for the buyer), because of their past, serious reliability problems. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 Now you know you are gonna upset Nabby and company by making such statements 
 - and you know the Marshy family prefers Bentlys
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Duveyoung 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams
  
 
   
 So let me get this straight.  The Maharishi Effect is real, but 100,000,000 
 praying sadhus are SO WRONG in how they meditate and pray that there is no 
 discernible effect on world events?
 
 This is how haughty the TMO was/is, and I bought into it 100% for at least a 
 few years of my life. 
 
 Zero effect, and yet we all went out there and put up posters about how we'd 
 figured out THE METHOD for FORCING GOD TO BE NICE TO US.
 
 And it only costs $2500.  (What's the price today?  Better ask Girish if he 
 needs another Rolls.)
 
 Three Kumbh Melas ago, I was already invested in TM to the tune of having 
 given it EVERYTHING for five years.  After five years of TMO, I still thought 
 that ALL THE PEOPLE OF INDIA WUT EVER WUZ missed the bigass secret. 
 
 Unimaginable power of denial -- that's the only thing BIG about being in the 
 TMO. 
 
 Edg
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  The last Kumbh Mela was 12 years ago and is on again this week. This 
  time I was thinking that they should have live streams of the event and 
  apparently will be some.  When they're up I'll post the links.
  http://www.mahakumbhfestival.com/
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Jackson
I will suggest that you pay attention to the posts I have already made - I 
already told you that some of the therapists are already offering 
their modalities to victims of trauma of various kinds including PTSD - 
some of the people who have come are veterans and some are non-veterans. 

You are incorrect in your assumption Ok, you don't 
like the people who are in charge of the program

I don't dislike the people who actually teach TM, it is the people like 
David Lynch and Bob Roth who talk up TM on all the talk shows, 
continuing the effort to sanitize the image of TM. It is really that I 
don't like the way they behave, rather than disliking the people themselves. 

This is also not quite correct: you feel they should be prevented from 
implementing the program

I don't feel they should be prevented - I just wish the world could see the 
real TMO instead of the toothy smiling one they present to the world. I would 
like the veteran's organizations, school officials and people in general to see 
and hear the white robe gold crown wearing men who give no authority to women, 
talking in that nutty TM speak affectation and refusing to walk through a south 
facing entrance. This dose of reality in itself would cause a good many of the 
people thy are approaching to slam the door in their mood making faces. 

As to how that philosophy is working for me, not very well since I and others 
like me do not have the public's eye and ear the way Oprah and other TM 
celebrities do, nor do I own or work in a leadership capacity for ABC news like 
George Stephanopoulos and Soledad O'Brien, nor do I own or have any authority 
at the Huffington Post like whoever the hell sees to it that the Huff Post is 
forever putting those I love TM articles in their magazine.

Were
 I to be in such a position, I would have a plethora of stories or 
articles about the seamy side of TM, and from all I have seen, 
experienced and heard, much of it here on FFL, when you look at the whole 
picture of the history of Marshy and the TMO, it is a pretty sordid tale.

If
 the people whom Lynch and associates are courting could see interviews 
with people like Edg and Barry, Mark Landau, Judith Borque, Ned Wynn, 
Billy Clayton, Are Holen and match them up with the interviews of celebs
 like Oprah and others who praise TM - then they could make their own 
choice. That would be my preference. 

Until such a thing happens I
 still don't like frauds and liars and that includes the TMO and its 
founder and its current leadership and if you don't like it, tough.

You
 act as if it is a given that TM is the BEST treatment for PTSD which it
 is not, and given the fact there are other meditations that can also be
 of benefit to vets with PTSD there is no reason to use TM given its baggage.

In
 closing it would be useful to remember that whether PTSD folks meditate
 or not, there are other more useful in the moment and more necessary 
modalities that have to be used in a PTSD treatment program for best 
results, much more important that TM or any other meditation. You can't 
just use TM or any meditation and expect it to magically dissolve all 
the markers of PTSD.




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
students, prison inmates, etc.
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:

 Yes we are working on the grant proposals, none of them have yet been 
 submitted to any of the philanthropic institutions we are approaching for 
 funding - what difference does that make anyway?
You expressed an intent to help those suffering from PTSD.  I was wondering 
what progress you had made toward that end.
 And if you can't understand that having something good taught by people who 
 are not examples of the good of that technique perhaps you should learn 
 something about logic and critical thinking.
Ok, you don't like the people who are in charge of the program and so you feel 
they should be prevented from implementing the program.  How's that philosophy 
working for you?  
I really have a problem with my banking representative at US Bank.  I feel she 
is unresponsive and arrogant.  Do you think I should begin a campaign to have 
her fired, or should I just find a different bank? (and so I did.  find a 
different bank)
 
 From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
 students, prison inmates, etc.
 
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
  You offer to challenge me to back up my statements. So challenge me on 
  this. I will be very plain.
  
  With TM and the sidhis, either it works or it doesn't work. 
  
  If it does work, and the TMO has as much money as they 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
  snip
 If
 the people whom Lynch and associates are courting could see interviews
 with people like Edg and Barry, Mark Landau, Judith Borque, Ned Wynn,
 Billy Clayton, Are Holen and match them up with the interviews of
celebs
 like Oprah and others who praise TM - then they could make their own
 choice. That would be my preference.
Hey Michael, it's called the internet, and it's open to all people with
just a few clicks.
 Until such a thing happens I
 still don't like frauds and liars and that includes the TMO and its
 founder and its current leadership and if you don't like it, tough.

 You
 act as if it is a given that TM is the BEST treatment for PTSD which
it
 is not, and given the fact there are other meditations that can also
be
 of benefit to vets with PTSD there is no reason to use TM given its
baggage.
Hey Michael, would you care to point out where I said any such thing. 
You make many good points and then you digress into this kind of weird
speculation which makes you lose credibility.  So, point out where I've
made any such pronouncement about TM and treatment of PTSD.
 In
 closing it would be useful to remember that whether PTSD folks
meditate
 or not, there are other more useful in the moment and more necessary
 modalities that have to be used in a PTSD treatment program for best
 results, much more important that TM or any other meditation. You
can't
 just use TM or any meditation and expect it to magically dissolve all
 the markers of PTSD.
And in closing Michael, why don't you limit yourself to facts instead of
speculations about what works best and what doesn't.  And while you're
at it, why don't you accurately reflect what I have said instead of just
launching into your usual monologue.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread doctordumbass
MJ, take a look at ANY organization in the world, any provider of services, any 
corporation - you won't find any better. Same people, same issues, same 
stumbles. And the same phony invincible exterior;  Marketing and PR.

Have you ever tried to manage a group of people, committed to a common goal? It 
is always really difficult. Progress always demands a cost, and it is always 
unknown at the inception of any endeavor - hindsight being 20/20, and all. 
Then, adding to the difficulty, instead of going for something concrete, the 
TMO is spreading *a mental technique* - very abstract, and open to a lot of 
misinterpretation. 

I am not defending anything, or rationalizing anyone's behavior. However, aside 
from the utopian engine that we all wanted the TMO to be, the people that stick 
with an organization are always better at perpetuating the organization, than 
fulfilling its goals. (March of Dimes, or the American Cancer Society, anyone??)

So the question kinda becomes, do you crash and burn against a fantasy, or wake 
up to reality, and go on from there?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 I will suggest that you pay attention to the posts I have already made - I 
 already told you that some of the therapists are already offering 
 their modalities to victims of trauma of various kinds including PTSD - 
 some of the people who have come are veterans and some are non-veterans. 
 
 You are incorrect in your assumption Ok, you don't 
 like the people who are in charge of the program
 
 I don't dislike the people who actually teach TM, it is the people like 
 David Lynch and Bob Roth who talk up TM on all the talk shows, 
 continuing the effort to sanitize the image of TM. It is really that I 
 don't like the way they behave, rather than disliking the people themselves. 
 
 This is also not quite correct: you feel they should be prevented from 
 implementing the program
 
 I don't feel they should be prevented - I just wish the world could see the 
 real TMO instead of the toothy smiling one they present to the world. I would 
 like the veteran's organizations, school officials and people in general to 
 see and hear the white robe gold crown wearing men who give no authority to 
 women, talking in that nutty TM speak affectation and refusing to walk 
 through a south facing entrance. This dose of reality in itself would cause a 
 good many of the people thy are approaching to slam the door in their mood 
 making faces. 
 
 As to how that philosophy is working for me, not very well since I and others 
 like me do not have the public's eye and ear the way Oprah and other TM 
 celebrities do, nor do I own or work in a leadership capacity for ABC news 
 like George Stephanopoulos and Soledad O'Brien, nor do I own or have any 
 authority at the Huffington Post like whoever the hell sees to it that the 
 Huff Post is forever putting those I love TM articles in their magazine.
 
 Were
  I to be in such a position, I would have a plethora of stories or 
 articles about the seamy side of TM, and from all I have seen, 
 experienced and heard, much of it here on FFL, when you look at the whole 
 picture of the history of Marshy and the TMO, it is a pretty sordid tale.
 
 If
  the people whom Lynch and associates are courting could see interviews 
 with people like Edg and Barry, Mark Landau, Judith Borque, Ned Wynn, 
 Billy Clayton, Are Holen and match them up with the interviews of celebs
  like Oprah and others who praise TM - then they could make their own 
 choice. That would be my preference. 
 
 Until such a thing happens I
  still don't like frauds and liars and that includes the TMO and its 
 founder and its current leadership and if you don't like it, tough.
 
 You
  act as if it is a given that TM is the BEST treatment for PTSD which it
  is not, and given the fact there are other meditations that can also be
  of benefit to vets with PTSD there is no reason to use TM given its baggage.
 
 In
  closing it would be useful to remember that whether PTSD folks meditate
  or not, there are other more useful in the moment and more necessary 
 modalities that have to be used in a PTSD treatment program for best 
 results, much more important that TM or any other meditation. You can't 
 just use TM or any meditation and expect it to magically dissolve all 
 the markers of PTSD.
 
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:59 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
 students, prison inmates, etc.
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
  Yes we are working on the grant proposals, none of them have yet been 
  submitted to any of the philanthropic institutions we are approaching for 
  funding - what difference does that make anyway?
 You expressed an intent to help those suffering from PTSD.  I was wondering 
 what 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread seventhray27


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
 You
 act as if it is a given that TM is the BEST treatment for PTSD which
it
 is not, and given the fact there are other meditations that can also
be
 of benefit to vets with PTSD there is no reason to use TM given its
baggage.


Honestly, it must be driving you absolutely batty that TM is getting
this kind of play.  It is no wonder that you have made this exposing
of TM such a priority in your life. Do you lie awake at night, thinking,
what can I do to make more people aware of this fraud that is TM?  It
sort of sounds that way.

Well, keep banging your drum and maybe you will get the results you are
looking for.

Or, partner with the parties you've mentioned before and keep working on
getting your own treatments implemented.  But it looks like we are
withdrawing from the conflicts which are causing the cases of PTSD, so
maybe the whole thing is winding down anyway.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, students, prison inmates, etc.

2013-01-14 Thread raunchydog
The TM albatross around around your neck needs a good laugh. 
http://youtu.be/lYnhckZcllU

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 I will suggest that you pay attention to the posts I have already made - I 
 already told you that some of the therapists are already offering 
 their modalities to victims of trauma of various kinds including PTSD - 
 some of the people who have come are veterans and some are non-veterans. 
 
 You are incorrect in your assumption Ok, you don't 
 like the people who are in charge of the program
 
 I don't dislike the people who actually teach TM, it is the people like 
 David Lynch and Bob Roth who talk up TM on all the talk shows, 
 continuing the effort to sanitize the image of TM. It is really that I 
 don't like the way they behave, rather than disliking the people themselves. 
 
 This is also not quite correct: you feel they should be prevented from 
 implementing the program
 
 I don't feel they should be prevented - I just wish the world could see the 
 real TMO instead of the toothy smiling one they present to the world. I would 
 like the veteran's organizations, school officials and people in general to 
 see and hear the white robe gold crown wearing men who give no authority to 
 women, talking in that nutty TM speak affectation and refusing to walk 
 through a south facing entrance. This dose of reality in itself would cause a 
 good many of the people thy are approaching to slam the door in their mood 
 making faces. 
 
 As to how that philosophy is working for me, not very well since I and others 
 like me do not have the public's eye and ear the way Oprah and other TM 
 celebrities do, nor do I own or work in a leadership capacity for ABC news 
 like George Stephanopoulos and Soledad O'Brien, nor do I own or have any 
 authority at the Huffington Post like whoever the hell sees to it that the 
 Huff Post is forever putting those I love TM articles in their magazine.
 
 Were
  I to be in such a position, I would have a plethora of stories or 
 articles about the seamy side of TM, and from all I have seen, 
 experienced and heard, much of it here on FFL, when you look at the whole 
 picture of the history of Marshy and the TMO, it is a pretty sordid tale.
 
 If
  the people whom Lynch and associates are courting could see interviews 
 with people like Edg and Barry, Mark Landau, Judith Borque, Ned Wynn, 
 Billy Clayton, Are Holen and match them up with the interviews of celebs
  like Oprah and others who praise TM - then they could make their own 
 choice. That would be my preference. 
 
 Until such a thing happens I
  still don't like frauds and liars and that includes the TMO and its 
 founder and its current leadership and if you don't like it, tough.
 
 You
  act as if it is a given that TM is the BEST treatment for PTSD which it
  is not, and given the fact there are other meditations that can also be
  of benefit to vets with PTSD there is no reason to use TM given its baggage.
 
 In
  closing it would be useful to remember that whether PTSD folks meditate
  or not, there are other more useful in the moment and more necessary 
 modalities that have to be used in a PTSD treatment program for best 
 results, much more important that TM or any other meditation. You can't 
 just use TM or any meditation and expect it to magically dissolve all 
 the markers of PTSD.
 
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:59 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
 students, prison inmates, etc.
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
  Yes we are working on the grant proposals, none of them have yet been 
  submitted to any of the philanthropic institutions we are approaching for 
  funding - what difference does that make anyway?
 You expressed an intent to help those suffering from PTSD.  I was wondering 
 what progress you had made toward that end.
  And if you can't understand that having something good taught by people 
  who are not examples of the good of that technique perhaps you should 
  learn something about logic and critical thinking.
 Ok, you don't like the people who are in charge of the program and so you 
 feel they should be prevented from implementing the program.  How's that 
 philosophy working for you?  
 I really have a problem with my banking representative at US Bank.  I feel 
 she is unresponsive and arrogant.  Do you think I should begin a campaign to 
 have her fired, or should I just find a different bank? (and so I did.  
 find a different bank)
  
  From: seventhray27 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:55 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another point of view about TM for PTSD vets, 
  students, prison inmates, etc.
  
  
    
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

[FairfieldLife] Take away obama's credit card!!!

2013-01-14 Thread wgm4u
Obama thinks we should pay our bills as he put it, with greater foreign debt, 
is that paying our bills?  He reminds me of my nephew with a credit card. When 
are you folks going to wake up, this president is out of control! He's going to 
crash the economy!! How much more debt can we take?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2013-01-14 Thread Buck
FFL  polemicals,

so-called internet polemists in the fight against online hostile forces. 
Po·lem·ist, a skilled debater in speech or writing. — polemical, adj. 
But they are being praised by officials as a sophisticated and effective tool 
in controlling public opinion.

Bloggers, who frequently post comments and articles supportive of ...
The bloggers also take part in online discussions, where they fiercely attack 
anybody who they see as critical of the regime.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:

 Fairfield Life Post Counter
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 361 messages as of (UTC) Mon Jan 14 23:42:12 2013
 
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 33 Michael Jackson 
 27 Ann 
 25 seventhray27 
 25 doctordumbass@..., UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
 20 Share Long 
 17 nablusoss1008 
 15 turquoiseb 
 15 authfriend 
 15 Ravi Chivukula 
 12 Carol 
 12 Buck 
 10 feste37 
 10 card 
 10 Bhairitu 
  9 raunchydog 
  7 Alex Stanley 
  6 merudanda 
  6 emptybill 
  6 Susan 
  5 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  5 Jason 
  5 Richard J. Williams 
  4 Rick Archer 
  3 laughinggull108 
  3 Mike Dixon 
  3 emilymae.reyn 
  2 seekliberation 
  2 mainstream20016 
  2 John 
  2 Duveyoung 
  1 srijau@..., UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
  1 salyavin808 
  1 obbajeeba 
  1 luvgemlight 
  1 WLeed3@...
  1 Richard 
  1 Daniel Iepure 
  1 martin.quickman 
  1 kc21d@... 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

2013-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008

 
 
  From: Duveyoung 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbh Mela Streams

 
 And it only costs $2500.  (What's the price today?  Better ask Girish if he 
 needs another Rolls.)

Last time I saw Girish in a car he was sitting in a President. Maharishi never 
had Rolls or Bently either. Why this silly campaign to try to convince 
everybody about this nonsense ?



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