[FairfieldLife] The solution to Climate Change -- more sex!
As presented by Reverend Billy, performance artist and pastor of the Church Of Stop Shopping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_63520feature=ivsrc_vid=JlpBKZPJHTEv=vcT1vVtisNc
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[FairfieldLife] Turq's awful, horrible, despicable weekend morning ritual
Watching Despicable Me 2 for the third time with some friends: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998824_631633480\ 194122_1426661003_n.jpg] [https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005732_63163350\ 0194120_896480024_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Three articles I found on Digg that I thought people here might like
What's even rarer than a TM-Sidha who can fly: http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2013/07/12/201481293/the-hardest-thing-to-find-in-the-universe Is this the result of the ME in Iowa: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/iowas-all-male-supreme-court-firing-of-woman-for-being-too-attractive-was-legal.php A Skeptic's Guide to After-Life Awareness: http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2013-07-11/news/heaven-can-t-wait-afterlife-awareness-conference-st-louis-2013/full/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev [SBS] Discourses
Everybody ought to read them through. Within the Guru Dev discourses there is direct plain advice pertinent to pricing spirituality and also policy recommendation throughout about seeing saints. You know, Brahmananda Saraswati, Guru Dev . It's also a lot of what we grew up with as the teaching and the spiritual regeneration movement. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ the Guru Dev Discourses, Cultivating to the subtle nervous system I like reading the discourses as an adjunct spiritual practice at those times as I sit with them. It's a nice checking. Of course their coming from the mid-20th Century there is that cultural overlay and application but they are quite true and practical even so. Presently in the 21st Century I like mentally substituting Unified Field for the Indian jargon used around the spiritual instruction, Unified Field for Paramatma and the Bhagavan. That works good as technique. Same field with same vectors just a different cultural overlay of fluctuation or ray of the divine. The Sanskrit modality though is quaint too. The footnotes are interesting for context. But overall great practical everyday spiritual teaching that is essential. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Very nice and thanks Yup, reading these Guru Dev discourses are like administering a Ras#257;yana, These discourses are indeed practical. Everyday teachings that are cultivating to the subtle system. I am liking very much reading them in bits. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 71. By forgetting your nature, you get submerged in the sea of sorrow. Just once take a look and ask who am I? What ever you have experienced in samsara (human life), all that is different from you. Body, mind, breath, and so on -all these things you see as your own. It is said, my body, my mind, my intellect, my breath. Clearly, you are master of these things you consider as your self, but your existence is different from them, like your house, or your temple. The temple is yours; but you are not the temple. Similarly, body, mind, intellect, breath, and so on- all these things belong to you, but they are not you. You are different from them. You are Sat, Chit, Ananda -being, consciousness, bliss- a ray of Paramatma. But due to lack of discrimination, due to ignorance, you have built up such a strong association with the body-mind-intellect and so forth that you have started thinking these things to be your true form. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Three articles I found on Digg that I thought people here might like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Is this the result of the ME in Iowa: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/iowas-all-male-supreme-court-firing-of-woman-for-being-too-attractive-was-legal.php Yes. Finally some push back to all the rampant immodesty that so is prevalent in society; it is about time that people pull up their belt line and cover up. And they should do something about this fad of body mutilation with tatoos. It is all just sacrilege of the body temple and all our subtle systems. It should not be tolerated. It is plainly no wonder the ME has so much to overcome with all that is so spiritually negative and sinful in society. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 He says it a bit more energetically than I would, but that's the way I've seen it all along. On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev [SBS] Discourses
It is very practical spirituality [Transcendentalism] expressed in his evident Guru Dev down-to-earth ways. These discourses are come out very timely now and certainly could help to re-set our TM movement once again. Everybody ought to read them through. Within the Guru Dev discourses there is direct plain advice pertinent to pricing spirituality and also policy recommendation throughout about seeing saints. You know, Brahmananda Saraswati, Guru Dev . It's also a lot of what we grew up with as the teaching and the spiritual regeneration movement. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ the Guru Dev Discourses, Cultivating to the subtle nervous system I like reading the discourses as an adjunct spiritual practice at those times as I sit with them. It's a nice checking. Of course their coming from the mid-20th Century there is that cultural overlay and application but they are quite true and practical even so. Presently in the 21st Century I like mentally substituting Unified Field for the Indian jargon used around the spiritual instruction, Unified Field for Paramatma and the Bhagavan. That works good as technique. Same field with same vectors just a different cultural overlay of fluctuation or ray of the divine. The Sanskrit modality though is quaint too. The footnotes are interesting for context. But overall great practical everyday spiritual teaching that is essential. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Very nice and thanks Yup, reading these Guru Dev discourses are like administering a Ras#257;yana, These discourses are indeed practical. Everyday teachings that are cultivating to the subtle system. I am liking very much reading them in bits. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 71. By forgetting your nature, you get submerged in the sea of sorrow. Just once take a look and ask who am I? What ever you have experienced in samsara (human life), all that is different from you. Body, mind, breath, and so on -all these things you see as your own. It is said, my body, my mind, my intellect, my breath. Clearly, you are master of these things you consider as your self, but your existence is different from them, like your house, or your temple. The temple is yours; but you are not the temple. Similarly, body, mind, intellect, breath, and so on- all these things belong to you, but they are not you. You are different from them. You are Sat, Chit, Ananda -being, consciousness, bliss- a ray of Paramatma. But due to lack of discrimination, due to ignorance, you have built up such a strong association with the body-mind-intellect and so forth that you have started thinking these things to be your true form. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati,
Re: [FairfieldLife] For MJ - Live Music from Downtown Reno
I am confused, I don't know anything about the foods stamps deal or farm bill. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For MJ - Live Music from Downtown Reno OK fine MJ - you have every right to deny it, I don't need to understand it - it's your choice. Now what do you think of the food stamps issue - didn't even know that they call it Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP now. Democrats say Republicans stripped food stamps for the poor from the farm bill and that it hasn’t happened since 1973. And then I read this too - http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-farm-bill-doesnt-end-food-stamps-212350341.html What do you say MJ - now that you have publicly disassociated yourself from country music? On 7/12/13 4:58 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: No lies here Ravi - there are plenty of us from the South who don't care for country - I've got the best chiropractor in the world here - only problem is having to listen to the country music she pipes in. I never even liked Randy Travis, tho my mother adores him, or used to before he started showing up naked and drunk in public - she liked him because he was close to one of my great uncles G.T. Little - Travis was a frequent visitor to my other uncle Buren who had the proverbial country store where Travis grew up. But no, no country music for me. Jethro Tull, yes, Jessie J., yes. No country. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For MJ - Live Music from Downtown Reno Come on MJ stop lying, no one cares if you listen to country music. I do realize that was not the best song to be recording, there were others I really liked like Hell on Heels. I wanted thanks for the Reno video, not the other one. Anyway I know you don't really care for the Whole Foods video but I used to live very close to that Whole Foods on Rose Lincoln and shopped there. And here's another one from DJ Dave that I liked in the past - Yoga Girl which of course you won't really like but just putting it out there for whoever. http://youtu.be/L-8IPDR4Khc Is that you or someone you know at the end of the video - that Big Papa guy? On 7/11/13 8:26 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I promise you I would never spend 10 seconds listening to the Reno video - but I loved the Whole Foods vid - downloaded it immediately - thanks Ravi! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For MJ - Live Music from Downtown Reno Here's a video from my Reno trip MJ, your kind of music - Only Prettier http://youtu.be/YGDXZ6cfTWE And here's my kind, Whole foods Parking lot http://youtu.be/2UFc1pr2yUU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev [SBS] Discourses
Thanks, Buck, I've sent to Van in Vancouver. If anyone would read all the way through, it would be him. He LOVES this kind of reading, has been reading Jay Latham's book. Have you seen laughinggull yet? How is it in the men's Dome? It feels wonderful in the women's Dome, settled and sweet, and it's great to see some old timers, looking I might add, better than they did in their youth IMHO. Bhairitu, I don't know about the exact numbers but the Visitor's Section looks pretty full. OTOH Van tells me the Dome numbers are way down so I figure the wonderful feeling is due to the fact that so many of the visitors are long term sidhas and govs. Not to mention the incredible weather: hot in the day but cooling off at night and very low humidity. Yay! From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev [SBS] Discourses Everybody ought to read them through. Within the Guru Dev discourses there is direct plain advice pertinent to pricing spirituality and also policy recommendation throughout about seeing saints. You know, Brahmananda Saraswati, Guru Dev . It's also a lot of what we grew up with as the teaching and the spiritual regeneration movement. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ the Guru Dev Discourses, Cultivating to the subtle nervous system I like reading the discourses as an adjunct spiritual practice at those times as I sit with them. It's a nice checking. Of course their coming from the mid-20th Century there is that cultural overlay and application but they are quite true and practical even so. Presently in the 21st Century I like mentally substituting Unified Field for the Indian jargon used around the spiritual instruction, Unified Field for Paramatma and the Bhagavan. That works good as technique. Same field with same vectors just a different cultural overlay of fluctuation or ray of the divine. The Sanskrit modality though is quaint too. The footnotes are interesting for context. But overall great practical everyday spiritual teaching that is essential. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Very nice and thanks Yup, reading these Guru Dev discourses are like administering a Rasāyana, These discourses are indeed practical. Everyday teachings that are cultivating to the subtle system. I am liking very much reading them in bits. http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 71. By forgetting your nature, you get submerged in the sea of sorrow. Just once take a look and ask who am I? What ever you have experienced in samsara (human life), all that is different from you. Body, mind, breath, and so on -all these things you see as your own. It is said, my body, my mind, my intellect, my breath. Clearly, you are master of these things you consider as your self, but your existence is different from them, like your house, or your temple. The temple is yours; but you are not the temple. Similarly, body, mind, intellect, breath, and so on- all these things belong to you, but they are not you. You are different from them. You are Sat, Chit, Ananda -being, consciousness, bliss- a ray of Paramatma. But due to lack of discrimination, due to ignorance, you have built up such a strong association with the body-mind-intellect and so forth that you have started thinking these things to be your true form. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati,
[FairfieldLife] Africa - the land of rhinos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6QYpYVFjQ Afrikka tuo manner alla julman auringon Tällä kertaa laulun aiheena on Sieltä tulee nimittäin ihmisiä tummia Nälissänsä kyselemään aivan kummia Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Massa on vielä massa Etelä-Afrikassa Pitää kaivostrustia ja kusee silmään mustia Jossain syödään lapsia ja neekerikin toteaa: Voi Afrikka tää on sarvikuonojen maa Tässä vaiheessa, laulun aiheessa, koittaa vaihe uus, kantaaottavuus Väistyy tieltä sen erinomaisen tärkeän kysymyksen Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Lisää vielä Afrikasta uutisia huonoja Ei sielläkään ole kohta enää sarvikuonoja Niitä savannilla ensin salaa ammutaan Sitten sarvi kainalossa Nairobissa sammutaan Tässä vaiheessa, taas laulun aiheessa, koittaa vaihe uus, kantaaottavuus Väistyy tieltä sen erinomaisen tärkeän kysymyksen Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Luuletko että kitaraa, soittamalla voi parantaa maailmaa? En tiedä onko näin, mutta ainakin soitan sitä oikein päin Luuletko että kitaraa.. Google translation, only slightly edited: Africa that mainland under the cruel sun This time the song is the subject of there, namely, dark people come from. Being hungry, asking just weird stuff Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm playing it right side out The massa is the massa even in South Africa Contact mining trust and sucks black eye In some children, and eaten a nigger says: Oh, this is Africa rhino country At this stage, song, see, try step neo, kantaaottavuus Stepping down to make way for its superb important question Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Add to that the bad news from Africa No there's no point any more rhinos They savannah, first secretly shot Then the horn under his arm off to Nairobi At this point, again, see the song, neo can try step, kantaaottavuus Stepping down to make way for its superb important question Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Do you think that the guitar playing can make the world better? I do not know if this is so, but at least I'm calling it right side out Do you think that the guitar ..
[FairfieldLife] Bose
A scientist who actually changed and improved! the world (unlike one's who only claim to, like Hagelin) July 12, 2013 Amar G. Bose, Acoustic Engineer and Inventor, Dies at 83 By GLENN RIFKIN Amar G. Bose, the visionary engineer, inventor and billionaire entrepreneur whose namesake company, the Bose Corporation, became synonymous with high-quality audio systems and speakers for home users, auditoriums and automobiles, died on Friday at his home in Wayland, Mass. He was 83. His death was confirmed by his son, Dr. Vanu G. Bose. As founder and chairman of the privately held company, Dr. Bose focused relentlessly on acoustic engineering innovation. His speakers, though expensive, earned a reputation for bringing concert-hall-quality audio into the home. And by refusing to offer stock to the public, Dr. Bose was able to pursue risky long-term research, such as noise-canceling headphones and an innovative suspension system for cars, without the pressures of quarterly earnings announcements. In a 2004 interview in Popular Science magazine, he said: “I would have been fired a hundred times at a company run by M.B.A.’s. But I never went into business to make money. I went into business so that I could do interesting things that hadn’t been done before.” A perfectionist and a devotee of classical music, Dr. Bose was disappointed by the inferior sound of a high-priced stereo system he purchased when he was an M.I.T. engineering student in the 1950s. His interest in acoustic engineering piqued, he realized that 80 percent of the sound experienced in a concert hall was indirect, meaning that it bounced off walls and ceilings before reaching the audience. This realization, using basic concepts of physics, formed the basis of his research. In the early 1960s, Dr. Bose invented a new type of stereo speaker based on psychoacoustics, the study of sound perception. His design incorporated multiple small speakers aimed at the surrounding walls, rather than directly at the listener, to reflect the sound and, in essence, recreate the larger sound heard in concert halls. In 1964, at the urging of his mentor and adviser at M.I.T., Dr. Y. W. Lee, he founded his company to pursue long-term research in acoustics. The Bose Corporation initially pursued military contracts, but Dr. Bose’s vision was to produce a new generation of stereo speakers. Though his first speakers fell short of expectations, Dr. Bose kept at it. In 1968, he introduced the Bose 901 Direct/Reflecting speaker system, which became a best seller for more than 25 years and firmly entrenched Bose, based in Framingham, Mass., as a leader in a highly competitive audio components marketplace. Unlike conventional loudspeakers, which radiated sound only forward, the 901s used a blend of direct and reflected sound. Later inventions included the popular Bose Wave radio and the Bose noise-canceling headphones, which were so effective they were adopted by the military and commercial pilots. A Bose software program enabled acoustic engineers to simulate the sound from any seat in a large hall, even before the site was built. The system was used to create sound systems for such diverse spaces as Staples Center in Los Angeles, the Sistine Chapel and the Masjid al-Haram, the grand mosque in Mecca. In 1982, some of the world’s top automakers, including Mercedes and Porsche, began to install Bose audio systems in their vehicles, and the brand remains a favorite in that market segment. Dr. Bose’s devotion to research was matched by his passion for teaching. Having earned his bachelor’s, master’s and doctorate degrees in electrical engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the 1950s, Dr. Bose returned from a Fulbright scholarship at the National Physical Laboratory in New Delhi and joined the M.I.T. faculty in 1956. He taught there for more than 45 years, and in 2011, donated a majority of his company’s shares to the school. The gift provides M.I.T. with annual cash dividends. M.I.T. cannot sell the shares and does not participate in the company’s management. Dr. Bose made a lasting impression in the classroom as well as in his company. His popular course on acoustics was as much about life as about electronics, said Alan V. Oppenheim, an M.I.T. engineering professor and a longtime colleague. “He talked not only about acoustics but about philosophy, personal behavior, what is important in life. He was somebody with extraordinary standards,” Professor Oppenheim said. Dr. William R. Brody, head of the Salk Institute in the La Jolla neighborhood of San Diego, was a student in Dr. Bose’s class in 1962. He told Popular Science: “His class gave me the courage to tackle high-risk problems and equipped me with the problem-solving skills I needed to be successful in several careers. Amar Bose taught me how to think.” Amar Gopal Bose was born on Nov. 2,
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa The U.S. Department of so-called Justice dispatched something called its Community Relations Services to Florida to help organize anti-Zimmerman rallies at taxpayer expense? Really?? As opposed to helping calm down the racial tensions? This is your idea of the best journalism on the web? *Really*??
[FairfieldLife] Re: Age of Aquarius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: (snip) women and other minorities Er, John...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's awful, horrible, despicable weekend morning ritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Watching Despicable Me 2 for the third time with some friends: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998824_631633480\ 194122_1426661003_n.jpg] [https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005732_63163350\ 0194120_896480024_n.jpg] This will be sure to tug at Share's heartstrings. When you're lagging in the polls, drag out more pictures of cute little Maya.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
authfriend: This is your idea of the best journalism on the web? Yeah, I think I mentioned this aspect of the Zimmerman trial in a previous post, but there was no response except from Mike Dixon, so I figured nobody here cared about the Zimmerman show trial. When are you going to start reading the newspaper? LoL! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349626 How difficult can that be in a country in which an Hispanic Obama voter can be instantly transformed into the poster boy for white racism? - Mark Steyn So, the Obama Administration needed to increase racial tension to boost black turnout in 2012? This is just outrageous! If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon. - Barack Obama, community organizer Today Judicial Watch released a set of documents that it obtained from multiple government sources relating to the role of the Department of Justice in demonstrations relating to the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case. 'Did the Department of Justice Stir Up Trayvon Martin Riots?' Powerline: http://tinyurl.com/l4hfz5x When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Studies: Conspiracy theorists sane, government dupes crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Well I knew this all along but now it's official: :-D Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled conspiracy theorists appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/12/313399/conspiracy-theorists-vs-govt-dupes/ One of the comments was pretty interesting: Dear Dr. Barrett-As one of the authors of the first study cited in this article I feel compelled to point out that you misinterpreted the relative proportions of conspiracist and conventionalist comments. That count is only of PERSUASIVE comments - comments which could be interpreted as an attempt to argue for or against a particular interpretation of 9/11. There were many comments not included in this count that were not written to persuade - for instance, a comment reading I'm glad they finally got Bin Laden so the 9/11 victims can rest in peace or similar would not be counted toward the cited total, even though it implicitly endorses the conventional account.It is interesting that there were more persuasive conspiracist than persuasive conventionalist comments, though I wonder if this is in part an artefact of the mainstream news websites espousing the conventional account in the main body of the news stories, which obviates the need to repeat it persuasively in the comments.
[FairfieldLife] Share, Robin and Judy, was Four for Share
Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. authfriend: (cough cough) You'll excuse me, I seem to have swallowed my spit. You are of course free to conduct matters between yourself and Robin as you see fit, just as I am free to comment on whatever happens on FFL, including your public communications with and about Robin, as I see fit. SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SHARE! LoL! And, stop speaking for Robin. If he had anything to say to Share or you, he'd probably post it. Go figure. I'm not at all sure why you imagine I would be interested in your opinions of my moral authority, etc., given what you know of my opinions of you on those same scores. Do you think anyone will notice that you can't seem to muster up any reasoned rebuttal to what I've said? BTW, indulge my curiosity, if you will. You write: Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. I seem to be missing the connection between his not saying anything *specific* about your upset (how specific? did he say anything *generally* about your upset?) and the purported inappropriateness of my comments on these matters. After all, that was three weeks ago, and nobody was discussing your upset at the time here, so why *would* he have mentioned it? It seems a bit dodgy for you to introduce this as if it were evidence in your favor. And I wonder why, as well, you failed to bring this up when you were making this huge fuss about the possibility that he'd been reading FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Everyone is different. One thing I've noted about 40 years (as of yesterday) TM practice is that I still don't know how to do it. I find it fascinating that anyone has discovered a way to do it (whatever it is) better. Similarly, after 38 years, the idea of having to attend to where my inner vision is centered during TM just doesn't compute--it's so far from, so inconsistent with, so foreign to, what's happening during TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Franklin Merrell-Wolff (younger readers will have to look him up on Wikipedia as he's fallen into obscurity in recent years) claimed that he never learned a single meditation practice that he didn't have to tweak before he could get the maximum benefits from the practice. I have to confess, I've had the same experience with TM. The effortless repetition (or favouring) of the mantra for sure elicited some dramatic changes in consciousness, including (on rounding courses) experiences of Richard Bucke-style cosmic consciousness. But the TM technique always insisted one concentrate (if concentrate is the right word) on hearing the subtle sound of the syllable - with no reference given to where ones vision (perhaps a better expression is inner vision) might be centred. I've since found that, for me, allowing my inner vision awareness to centre on the space immediately in front of my eyes greatly enhances the effects of TM and makes me more centred immediately after a mediation session. (I'm not actually crossed-eyed (!) during my sessions, but presumably the location does suggest the Ajna chakra.) I've heard that other spiritual groups recommend centring ones attention on the Ajna chakra if you're more the thinking type - that would describe me - but they also recommend centring attention on the heart chakra if you're more the touchy-feely type. By the way, dire warnings are given (especially by Theosophical-influenced groups) on allowing one's attention to centre on the lower - the root or genital chakras - unless you're sexually pure as that can increase one's libido and lead to sexual obsessions - or sex addiction as modern parlance has it. Now, only being myself your bog-standard meditator, I'm curious if other (more advanced) FFL posters have experienced a similar effect to me. That is, combining mantra favouring with relaxed, inner visual attention centred in front of the eyes has improved your results. And also I'm curious if those of you who took TM-sidha training, or trained as teachers, ever heard Maharishi mention chakras to your inner core of true believers . . . By the way, if what I'm saying sounds presumptuous why not give it a try yourself for a few days?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Robin and Judy, was Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: And, stop speaking for Robin. If he had anything to say to Share or you, he'd probably post it. Go figure. I may have another Westmalle, for the Apocalypse is surely upon us...I find myself agreeing with Willytex. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
THANKS RAVI! This is exactly how I feel about it. Makes me wanna cry. As far as I am concerned, reading National Review is a complete waste of time. STFU RICHARD. SMILE. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Excellent rant. My sentiments exactly. On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa* Steyn is the Cadberry Easter Bunny of journalism. Masquerading as a clucking chicken, he delivers chocolate eggs in colorful foil, but each contains a poison pill. He wraps a delicious story in oft repeated talking points solely for the purpose of delivering red meat smears to trained teabaggers salivating on cue. Goebbles never had it so good.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Emily, I suggest you look at your last posts before your left a while ago in order to ascertain who indeed keeps bringing it up. Both Emily and I have brought it up multiple times. And in fact I did explain what I meant. To you actually, when you posted an online definition way back at the beginning of all this. Your explanation was impossibly vague, and you refused to elaborate or to relate it to what Robin had said. Plus which, it was seriously inconsistent with what you'd said at first: You apologized for being grumpy due to eating too much sugar. Remember? To this day, you've been unable to explain how you got from grumpy at the beginning of September to a victim of psychological rape at the beginning of October. Emily's right. You were feeling challenged and threatened at the beginning of October and grabbed desperately at that phrase as a defense--then when it was pointed out to you that it was a completely inappropriate and thoroughly offensive accusation, you couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge how seriously it missed the mark and got yourself stuck to it, unable to let go of it and admit you'd made a mistake. Furthermore, I think you are not objective enough about me or Robin and so I don't find what you have to say about all that either beneficial or useful. It's all very simple, you see. Only those who agree with Share can be considered objective. From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share Share, you are completely missing the point and changing the context up. Judy is not commenting on the upset between you and Robin - what goes down privately between the two of you is private. What she and I also were commenting on was your irresponsible behavior on this public forum with respect to how stuck you were in automatically and steadfastly repeating an accusation of major proportion about someone publicly that you refused to back up or explain or discuss and which had no basis in anything ever posted here by Robin to you. Irresponsible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or mental good health to do so. I have to assume that is said without intentional irony. As to the former, I've seen how you distort what I say. No, you haven't. I don't distort what you've said. I can back up every word of what I wrote below. As to the latter, IMO I think you are out of balance with regards to Robin. Says the person who called him a psychological rapist. Barry, you're going to lose your Master of Inadvertent Irony title if you aren't careful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Yes wow Xeno is back !!! Yep this nails it really - human mind is a fantasy manufacturing ability. Judy may have produced clear evidence of Share's words over and over again - but it is all fantasy, fiction. Really I can say Xenosociopath is a , something about Xeno makes me uncomfortable and his behavior is very similar to a sociopath. andI don't really need to take any accountability for it because that's what it is - my mind, conjuring up fantasies. Not to forget truth and facts don't matter in Unity - your original postulate Xeno, facts and truth don't exist at a universal, impersonal level, very powerful - very profound. Just where did I say that facts and truth do not matter? For me, the impersonal universal level is truth. Facts matter depending on the situation, they do not exist on the universal level of experience, which is wordless. Words are descriptions of facts, presume to delineate what a fact it. If the words and the situation they describe correlate highly, that description is presumed to be accurate and we have what is called a 'fact'. 'Facts' concerning peoples intent and emotional states is far less correlative than saying something like 'there is a telephone pole on the corner of Hollywod and Vine', which can be checked by going there and seeing if that statement corresponds with what is seen. This is the conventional idea of a fact. The impersonal universal level of experience is not a fact, because there is no way to describe it, or show it, or give it to another person. This is something each must find out on their own. Maybe some succeed in this, maybe most fail. In any case, how can we tell? Is enlightenment real, or the ultimate scam, or both? I wonder if arguments like yours can used in a court of law. I mean anything can be explained away with your postulates Xeno. Why is there any need for any honesty, any integrity? I don't think you even associate with these values - you don't even have any dignity apparently. How pathetic and retarded Xeno. The world is as we are, as we express ourselves. If you look at the world's religions, god either exists or does not, is inconsistent, good, or vengeful, is a liar and a murderer, or the epitome of morality. Where does that leave us as far as honesty and integrity? A universe that is whole and yet breaks itself into darkness is hardly a good model for us impressionable human beings. Speaking of courts of law, do you hold lawyers to be a shining example of integrity, incorruptibility, and morality?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Wrong. I have no idea whether it impresses people or not, or will impress people or not. I just make it up. If I angle for trying to get some specific response from others, then that behaviour results in my being controlled by that desire. It is living in a prison. Especially if you remain unaware of what you're doing or your motivations for doing it. For reasons not known to me, you appear to think that what you think represents reality and truth. I'll tell you what I told Curtis awhile back: I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave as you do than I do in what you tell me of why you behave as you do. The human mind is a fantasy manufacturing facility, and it churns out its stuff on a second by second basis. Speak for yourself. Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits, and Are melted into air, into thin air: And like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on; and our little life Is rounded with a sleep.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Irony Klunker IK from Raunchy pontificating about verbal abuse yet being the woman who posted the most hard porn item on FFL about others. But maybe she doesn't think hard porn is verbal abuse, especially when it's done in kind of a sneaky, indirect way.* In any case, certainly a major inner disconnect for a grandmother IMO. What's that? We shouldn't continue to judge her for something she did in the past? Plonk! * post #326688 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional Don't confuse Share with the facts. Her mind is already made up. She sees things from her reality only. There in no room for reality in a discussion with her. Your point of view has no value despite the facts. It's a coping behavior that attempts to control the outcome of a dispute in relationships. Too bad she hasn't figured out that attacking the messenger and piling on more layers of bullshit to confuse the issue is a piss poor strategy on a public forum. http://youtu.be/amcDIPQ5z5E
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. And what about my facts, Share? Nor are her distortions What distortions? Provide quotes from my posts, identify the distortions, and show *how* they are distortions. whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. (belly laugh) Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, And your training, Missy? much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. For the record, Share, your opinions are not facts much less the truth. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. This is Share making unfounded accusations that she cannot back up. Share, when push comes to shove, you virtually always resort to ad hominem rather than rational discussion.
[FairfieldLife] Australiaum: Hey, Australia! Keep those Muslim boat people comin’ in
Same as some of the yahoo groups I'm on, particularly the so called 'spiritual groups' who don't want to see this 'Muslimstuff'. Baby, it's all part of the big 'spiritual picture'. Get grounded! The spiritual doesn't fly right without seeing things as they are, and being active to change those spiritual/religions who cloister themselves claiming sanctity of their hogwash ways. BULLSHIT! Religion's purpose to the 'controllers' is to know who the 'irrelevant' are by grouping them like sheep. You know - 'SHEEPLE'! Hey, Australia! Keep those Muslim boat people comin’ inby BareNakedIslam Keep giving them welfare and free housing. Don't worry if they refuse to work. They are making your country a multicultural third world slum. Happy, yet? h/t Debbie R Read more of this post Arhata arhataosho.com
[FairfieldLife] If Robin had anything he wanted to say to you...
I find it strange that I should find a cafe rap bubbling up out of me as the result of an offhand remark by Willytex, but hey!...as Zaphod Beebelbrox was fond of saying, Anything for a weird life, so here goes... The remark made me want to go back and read Robin's Parting Post to this forum, and see what he had to say *in* the last thing he wanted to say to us -- to *any* and *all* of us. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340466 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340466 You should realize that going back to read this is a somewhat heroic act on my part, because I had trouble forcing my way through Robin's posts in real time, much less in the rear-view mirror, but I did it. And, as a result, I find that I have some musings to share about it. They are what *all* of my posts here are -- pure opinion -- so anyone silly enough to read them should probably oughta take them that way. *Unlike* Robin, I am NOT trying to say that my opinions equate to truth or reality, whatever the fuck those things might be; they're just my opinions. That said, it strikes me that this Parting Post can be seen in a number of ways. Some -- the obvious ones -- have been discussed here before. But because people here seem to enjoy fixating on Robin and unraveling for us the mysteries of who he is and what his message to us might have been, I will discuss some of the less obvious ones. On the surface, this post is clearly a last-gasp attempt to suck Curtis into replying to him and continuing to engage in one of Robin's confrontations with him, after he had pushed his intended victim over the edge by writing yet another fictitious post and signing Curtis' name to it. If this is the only way you view Robin's Parting Post, the attempt failed. Curtis did not reply. More interestingly, however, neither did anyone else. No one. Including the people who have made him almost into their poor, persecuted Saint Robin in the time since. Which brings me to one of the less obvious interpretations of this Parting Post -- that it was a form of Tantrum Yoga. One way to look it is, THIS is what I want to talk about here. THIS is pretty much the *only* thing I want to talk about here. And in order to even *qualify* as worthy of me talking to you, you *have* to go back and read all four of these posts I made to Curtis. Then, if you still 'side with Curtis,' and choose to argue with me about it, I may, 'if possible,' reply to you. No one replied. No one. Doesn't it make you wonder where the people who now seem to think that Robin was the best thing since sliced bread *were* when he implored them -- or *anyone* -- to talk about what *he* wanted to talk about? I would say, in retrospect, that the clear message he received from Fairfield Life was, Sorry...we *don't* want to talk about your petty ego-squabbles with Curtis, no matter how cosmically you try to reframe them. To his credit, when Robin received this clear message, he STFU. And now his supporters, who remained completely silent at the time, and who had nothing whatsoever to say about the only thing he wanted to talk about, can't seem to STFU themselves. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The solution to Climate Change -- more sex!
funny, turq and articles were interesting and just to keep Ann happy, I'll mention the photos which were sweet. But what the heck about Bastille Day? Will you participate? And I can't help but think of who on FFL might play Madame Dufarge knitting those head bags by la guillotine. My bad. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The solution to Climate Change -- more sex! As presented by Reverend Billy, performance artist and pastor of the Church Of Stop Shopping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_63520feature=ivsrc_vid=JlpBKZPJHTEv=vcT1vVtisNc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: (snip) I wonder if arguments like yours can used in a court of law. I mean anything can be explained away with your postulates Xeno. Why is there any need for any honesty, any integrity? I don't think you even associate with these values - you don't even have any dignity apparently. How pathetic and retarded Xeno. The world is as we are, as we express ourselves. If you look at the world's religions, god either exists or does not, is inconsistent, good, or vengeful, is a liar and a murderer, or the epitome of morality. Where does that leave us as far as honesty and integrity? A universe that is whole and yet breaks itself into darkness is hardly a good model for us impressionable human beings. IOW: As far as Xeno is concerned, there is no need for honesty or integrity. Just too damn much trouble. (BTW: The above paragraph of Xeno's is hardly a good model for those who wish to make coherent arguments.) Speaking of courts of law, do you hold lawyers to be a shining example of integrity, incorruptibility, and morality? First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Take a look at the post of raunchy's Share cites and then take a moment to evaluate Share's integrity in what she says here about raunchy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Irony Klunker IK from Raunchy pontificating about verbal abuse yet being the woman who posted the most hard porn item on FFL about others. But maybe she doesn't think hard porn is verbal abuse, especially when it's done in kind of a sneaky, indirect way.* In any case, certainly a major inner disconnect for a grandmother IMO. What's that? We shouldn't continue to judge her for something she did in the past? Plonk! * post #326688 From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional Don't confuse Share with the facts. Her mind is already made up. She sees things from her reality only. There in no room for reality in a discussion with her. Your point of view has no value despite the facts. It's a coping behavior that attempts to control the outcome of a dispute in relationships. Too bad she hasn't figured out that attacking the messenger and piling on more layers of bullshit to confuse the issue is a piss poor strategy on a public forum. http://youtu.be/amcDIPQ5z5E
[FairfieldLife] Re: If Robin had anything he wanted to say to you...
Admit it Barry, you miss Robin. This post says it all - you took the time *again* to repost this exchange. I've re-read the first one and I think Robin was beautiful in it. Be grateful you had any opportunity at all to slander the fellow; you may never get the opportunity again. How about a little gratitudeThank you Robin for sharing yourself with FFL in a most *real* way. You have enriched my life for now and into eternity. Love, Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I find it strange that I should find a cafe rap bubbling up out of me as the result of an offhand remark by Willytex, but hey!...as Zaphod Beebelbrox was fond of saying, Anything for a weird life, so here goes... The remark made me want to go back and read Robin's Parting Post to this forum, and see what he had to say *in* the last thing he wanted to say to us -- to *any* and *all* of us. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340466 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340466 You should realize that going back to read this is a somewhat heroic act on my part, because I had trouble forcing my way through Robin's posts in real time, much less in the rear-view mirror, but I did it. And, as a result, I find that I have some musings to share about it. They are what *all* of my posts here are -- pure opinion -- so anyone silly enough to read them should probably oughta take them that way. *Unlike* Robin, I am NOT trying to say that my opinions equate to truth or reality, whatever the fuck those things might be; they're just my opinions. That said, it strikes me that this Parting Post can be seen in a number of ways. Some -- the obvious ones -- have been discussed here before. But because people here seem to enjoy fixating on Robin and unraveling for us the mysteries of who he is and what his message to us might have been, I will discuss some of the less obvious ones. On the surface, this post is clearly a last-gasp attempt to suck Curtis into replying to him and continuing to engage in one of Robin's confrontations with him, after he had pushed his intended victim over the edge by writing yet another fictitious post and signing Curtis' name to it. If this is the only way you view Robin's Parting Post, the attempt failed. Curtis did not reply. More interestingly, however, neither did anyone else. No one. Including the people who have made him almost into their poor, persecuted Saint Robin in the time since. Which brings me to one of the less obvious interpretations of this Parting Post -- that it was a form of Tantrum Yoga. One way to look it is, THIS is what I want to talk about here. THIS is pretty much the *only* thing I want to talk about here. And in order to even *qualify* as worthy of me talking to you, you *have* to go back and read all four of these posts I made to Curtis. Then, if you still 'side with Curtis,' and choose to argue with me about it, I may, 'if possible,' reply to you. No one replied. No one. Doesn't it make you wonder where the people who now seem to think that Robin was the best thing since sliced bread *were* when he implored them -- or *anyone* -- to talk about what *he* wanted to talk about? I would say, in retrospect, that the clear message he received from Fairfield Life was, Sorry...we *don't* want to talk about your petty ego-squabbles with Curtis, no matter how cosmically you try to reframe them. To his credit, when Robin received this clear message, he STFU. And now his supporters, who remained completely silent at the time, and who had nothing whatsoever to say about the only thing he wanted to talk about, can't seem to STFU themselves. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The solution to Climate Change -- more sex!
0--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: funny, turq and articles were interesting and just to keep Ann happy, I'll mention the photos which were sweet. But what the heck about Bastille Day? Will you participate? And I can't help but think of who on FFL might play Madame Dufarge knitting those head bags by la guillotine. My bad. I am here in Leiden with my family for now, Share, but tomorrow I will be returning to Paris in time to head over to where it's all happening on Bastille Day. I used to live in the 7th Arrondissement, near the Tour Eiffel, and I spent many an enjoyable Bastille Day enjoying the crowds who flock to that area to view the fireworks show, set against the Tour Eiffel. It's a zoo. Literally millions of people. And for some perverse reason, as much as I enjoy Silence, I also enjoy the magic of Crowds Having A Good Time. Tantra. And on Bastille Day in Paris, the crowds *definitely* have a good time. Unlike the British or the Irish, they *don't* tend to overdrink or otherwise overindulge and make assholes of themselves during a Major National Holiday, so the crowds are fairly tame and manageable. But the VISUALS! Just do die for. The Tour Eiffel and the Ville de Paris make just the best backdrop for a fireworks show ever! And didn't Maya look cute sitting beside her new minions, watching Despicable Me 2 with them? I found them online and ordered them for her, and she had met them only a few minutes before those photos were taken. They already have names -- the same as from the movies -- Dave (the one with only one eye), Stuart (the one with the toothy smile), and Kevin (the one with eight strands of hair). :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Share - you have fully lost touch with reality here - on all counts. I worry for you - the closer someone gets to the truth about you - the more vicious you get. Get yourself a new counselor who is going to challenge you and make you extremely uncomfortable in your own skin. You can run sweetie, but you can't hide. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Irony Klunker IK from Raunchy pontificating about verbal abuse yet being the woman who posted the most hard porn item on FFL about others. But maybe she doesn't think hard porn is verbal abuse, especially when it's done in kind of a sneaky, indirect way.* In any case, certainly a major inner disconnect for a grandmother IMO. What's that? We shouldn't continue to judge her for something she did in the past? Plonk! * post #326688 From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional Don't confuse Share with the facts. Her mind is already made up. She sees things from her reality only. There in no room for reality in a discussion with her. Your point of view has no value despite the facts. It's a coping behavior that attempts to control the outcome of a dispute in relationships. Too bad she hasn't figured out that attacking the messenger and piling on more layers of bullshit to confuse the issue is a piss poor strategy on a public forum. http://youtu.be/amcDIPQ5z5E
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Hey Share, Wonderful point. My God, do these people worship this woman. Now you've got Raunchy coming to the fore. I had a chance to skim over some the posts. I especially enjoyed the exchange between Edg and turqb on the cult article, and the point Xeno made about what must be the emotional make up of someone who demands an apology from someone, (for a percevied infraction against someone else -for God's sake!) That must have hit the target pretty well, because it elicited a Fuck Off from Judy. We don't see that very often. Still not a Fuck Off and Die. That's most been reserved mostly for Curtis when Judy has exhausted most every other argument she can put forth, and still fallen way short. Seeing alot of the f word from Judy lately. Talk about psychological stress, I guess. Anyway, returning tomorrow. Been a fun vacation, but a lot of staying in touch with work, and handling other issues back home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote:  Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon, they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL! From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: If Robin had anything he wanted to say to you...
Oh, Barry, you *know* that when you tell deliberate falsehoods, you're going to get corrected. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) Which brings me to one of the less obvious interpretations of this Parting Post -- that it was a form of Tantrum Yoga. One way to look it is, THIS is what I want to talk about here. THIS is pretty much the *only* thing I want to talk about here. And in order to even *qualify* as worthy of me talking to you, you *have* to go back and read all four of these posts I made to Curtis. Then, if you still 'side with Curtis,' and choose to argue with me about it, I may, 'if possible,' reply to you. No one replied. No one. Doesn't it make you wonder where the people who now seem to think that Robin was the best thing since sliced bread *were* when he implored them -- or *anyone* -- to talk about what *he* wanted to talk about? Barry is not so stupid that he's completely misunderstood the gist of Robin's final post. He has intentionally twisted it in an attempt to make it seem Robin was saying the opposite of what he actually meant to convey. There are three possible reasons why any given person here didn't comment on that post: 1. They read the exchanges closely and found that they agreed with Robin and had no criticisms to make. 2. They read the exchanges closely and found that they agreed with Curtis, but didn't want to bother to make any criticisms. 3. They weren't interested enough to read the exchanges. Robin really *didn't* want to talk about any of it any more, with Curtis or anybody else. He was willing to entertain criticisms of himself, because he is a person of integrity, but only if the critics had something significant to say. He maintained (correctly, IMHO) that nobody who hadn't carefully read those exchanges could have any significant criticisms of his part in the dispute between himself and Curtis. It was way too complex, and he was sick of the uninformed criticisms from people who had no idea what it was about. Far from imploring any of us to talk about that dispute, he was posing a challenge he was pretty sure nobody was going to take up. He felt he'd done his best to respond to Curtis and was tired of the whole thing. He accomplished exactly what he intended with that post: He brought the discussion to an honorable close and felt free to leave. Exactly the opposite of what Barry maintains. Check it out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340466
[FairfieldLife] More for the Woo-Woo Warriors
This young guy has quite a few videos, mainly about Vedic astrology including some Buddha at the Gas Pump style ones with known astrologers. He also has some on UFOs, crop circles, tantra, etc. He does a pretty good job of them and I thought some of the folks here might find them interesting. His YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/KRSchannel?feature=watch His web site: http://www.astrologykrs.com Usually young Indians don't want to have anything to do with these things. He's also kind of a hobbyist astrologer as he likes to make clear he doesn't do consultations. He learned astrology from his uncle and has written some books on the subject.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Turq's awful, horrible, despicable weekend morning ritual
On 07/13/2013 02:01 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Watching Despicable Me 2 for the third time with some friends: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998824_631633480\ 194122_1426661003_n.jpg] [https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005732_63163350\ 0194120_896480024_n.jpg] So at this stage is this like Rocky Horror Picture Show where you start dressing up as characters and repeating lines from the movie? Ray Kurzweill loves you for preparing that child for the Singularity. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Excellent rant. My sentiments exactly. On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa* Steyn is the Cadberry Easter Bunny of journalism. Masquerading as a clucking chicken, he delivers chocolate eggs in colorful foil, but each contains a poison pill. He wraps a delicious story in oft repeated talking points solely for the purpose of delivering red meat smears to trained teabaggers salivating on cue. Goebbles never had it so good. Ravi's Jyotish reading of yours was right; you should write a book. Your command of the English language is only superseded by your command of fools.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon, they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL! From: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Re Goebbles [sic] never had it so good : actually Herr Goebbels had all his opponents shipped off to concentration camps you silly man! Steyn has to compete on the open forum of the web and is one of the most popular political pundits around the globe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Steyn is the Cadberry Easter Bunny of journalism. Masquerading as a clucking chicken, he delivers chocolate eggs in colorful foil, but each contains a poison pill. He wraps a delicious story in oft repeated talking points solely for the purpose of delivering red meat smears to trained teabaggers salivating on cue. Goebbles never had it so good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Re Goebbles [sic] never had it so good : actually Herr Goebbels had all his opponents shipped off to concentration camps you silly man! Er, silly woman? Raunchy is a woman but, as you will sooner or later find out, hardly silly. Steyn has to compete on the open forum of the web and is one of the most popular political pundits around the globe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Steyn is the Cadberry Easter Bunny of journalism. Masquerading as a clucking chicken, he delivers chocolate eggs in colorful foil, but each contains a poison pill. He wraps a delicious story in oft repeated talking points solely for the purpose of delivering red meat smears to trained teabaggers salivating on cue. Goebbles never had it so good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Share, Wonderful point. My God, do these people worship this woman. Now you've got Raunchy coming to the fore. I had a chance to skim over some the posts. I especially enjoyed the exchange between Edg and turqb on the cult article, and the point Xeno made about what must be the emotional make up of someone who demands an apology from someone, (for a percevied infraction against someone else -for God's sake!) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. That must have hit the target pretty well, because it elicited a Fuck Off from Judy. We don't see that very often. Still not a Fuck Off and Die. That's most been reserved mostly for Curtis when Judy has exhausted most every other argument she can put forth, and still fallen way short. Seeing alot of the f word from Judy lately. Talk about psychological stress, I guess. Anyway, returning tomorrow. Been a fun vacation, but a lot of staying in touch with work, and handling other issues back home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote:  Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. Childish rants appears to be what this post of yours is. It not only earmarks you as right wing but rather fundamentalist in the worst kind of way, not to mention insulting as a result of others not agreeing with your viewpoints. I don't think any TM checking could cure you of any of these afflictions either. Why you care enough about this subject enough to demonstrate these unsavoury characteristics you evidently possess is one of those mysteries of life. We've got a couple of assholes here already, I guess another one won't hurt. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon, they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL! From: Richard J. Williams richard@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
We do not have riots in Iowa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon, they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL! From: Richard J. Williams richard@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. If anything, I'm closest to being anti the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The terminology is misleading though. But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care about justice! What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if Zimmerman was convicted or not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Childish rants appears to be what this post of yours is. It not only earmarks you as right wing but rather fundamentalist in the worst kind of way, not to mention insulting as a result of others not agreeing with your viewpoints. I don't think any TM checking could cure you of any of these afflictions either. Why you care enough about this subject enough to demonstrate these unsavoury characteristics you evidently possess is one of those mysteries of life. We've got a couple of assholes here already, I guess another one won't hurt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). I'm sorry you felt it was childish of me to quote Steyn's remark in his second paragraph, before he even began to discuss the merits of the case against Zimmerman: The U.S. Department of so-called Justice dispatched something called its 'Community Relations Services' to Florida to help organize anti-Zimmerman rallies at taxpayer expense. I haven't been following the specifics of the Zimmerman trial, so I have no comments on Steyn's view of it--except to say that anyone who would assert the bit of right-wing insanity I just quoted has something so seriously wrong with their attitude and their judgment that I wouldn't trust them to tell me whether it was raining outside. For more on this nitwittery: http://prospect.org/article/how-conservative-media-are-eating-zimmerman-trial http://tinyurl.com/q3q7a35 http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/07/trayvon_martin_and_the_justice_department_s_community_relations_service.single.html http://tinyurl.com/mqd2tyj *Of course* the DOJ didn't send anybody to Florida to help organize anti-Zimmerman rallies. The team was sent to try to help calm the burgeoning racial tensions. That's by contrast with the right wing media, which is doing its best to *inflame* those tensions with this absurd and completely false story. I note that you didn't want to comment on this, Seraphita; you preferred to resort to slinging ad hominems.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
You've clearly had an irony-bypass operation. The clue was :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: We do not have riots in Iowa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-)
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Welcome back, Steve and it'll be great to hear about some of your adventures. I remember that you all went hiking last year. And you mentioned something about possibly camping. How was the weather? Did you all get to Aspen at all? Not to mention, how was the FOOD? PS If time is limited, please talk about the food first (-: From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share Hey Share, Wonderful point. My God, do these people worship this woman. Now you've got Raunchy coming to the fore. I had a chance to skim over some the posts. I especially enjoyed the exchange between Edg and turqb on the cult article, and the point Xeno made about what must be the emotional make up of someone who demands an apology from someone, (for a percevied infraction against someone else -for God's sake!) That must have hit the target pretty well, because it elicited a Fuck Off from Judy. We don't see that very often. Still not a Fuck Off and Die. That's most been reserved mostly for Curtis when Judy has exhausted most every other argument she can put forth, and still fallen way short. Seeing alot of the f word from Judy lately. Talk about psychological stress, I guess. Anyway, returning tomorrow. Been a fun vacation, but a lot of staying in touch with work, and handling other issues back home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote:  Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: You've clearly had an irony-bypass operation. The clue was :-) Those stupid smiley faces mean nothing. Barry uses them all the time after stabbing someone in the back. I never use them because they are 99% of the time disingenuous. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: We do not have riots in Iowa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
I'm in the 1% group. My smileys mean business! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Those stupid smiley faces mean nothing. Barry uses them all the time after stabbing someone in the back. I never use them because they are 99% of the time disingenuous.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. Oh no, does this mean you're enlightened? If anything, I'm closest to being anti the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The terminology is misleading though. Most terminology is misleading but words written by others usually speak volumes. But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care about justice! What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if Zimmerman was convicted or not? If you interpret justice to mean the guy you happen to think is innocent doesn't get convicted then I don't care about that kind of justice. This case does not particularly interest me but when vitriol erupts from someone posting about it I find that more engaging. This is why I chimed in. I am not convinced that anger, insults and mudslinging are warranted by caring about the Zimmerman case as you profess to do. I prefer civilized, open minded dialogue that is why I started this discussion with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Childish rants appears to be what this post of yours is. It not only earmarks you as right wing but rather fundamentalist in the worst kind of way, not to mention insulting as a result of others not agreeing with your viewpoints. I don't think any TM checking could cure you of any of these afflictions either. Why you care enough about this subject enough to demonstrate these unsavoury characteristics you evidently possess is one of those mysteries of life. We've got a couple of assholes here already, I guess another one won't hurt.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: (snip) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. Wayback, you have a tendency to make a whole lot of assumptions. You might want to think about not making them quite so confidently. Just for one thing, I have a number of friends on FFL, including Robin (but not, obviously, you). I think it's peculiar, to say the least, to rule out the possibility of friendship via cyberspace. (And let's also note that human beings aren't created via compilations of posts; rather, the posts and their compilations are created by human beings. Perhaps that's what's confusing you.) More importantly, I'm fascinated that anybody would think there's anything weird about standing up for your friends (or even those who are *not* your friends, for that matter) when they've been falsely accused or otherwise unfairly treated. It seems to denigrate the biblical principle of being one's brother's keeper. Me, I'll stand behind that principle and do my best to uphold it for as long as I draw breath. YMOV. Sad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Nothing you wrote suggested an ironic intention. So-called smiley faces mean nothing. If you wrote better you would not need them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: You've clearly had an irony-bypass operation. The clue was :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: We do not have riots in Iowa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-)
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Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain* and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures when he was twelve), just bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic, was following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved. From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. If anything, I'm closest to being anti the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The terminology is misleading though. But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care about justice! What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if Zimmerman was convicted or not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Childish rants appears to be what this post of yours is. It not only earmarks you as right wing but rather fundamentalist in the worst kind of way, not to mention insulting as a result of others not agreeing with your viewpoints. I don't think any TM checking could cure you of any of these afflictions either. Why you care enough about this subject enough to demonstrate these unsavoury characteristics you evidently possess is one of those mysteries of life. We've got a couple of assholes here already, I guess another one won't hurt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. Oh no, does this mean you're enlightened? Lord help us - another FFLifer who's had an irony-bypass operation. If anything, I'm closest to being anti the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The terminology is misleading though. Most terminology is misleading but words written by others usually speak volumes. Then why use the terminology? You mentioned right-wing and fundamentalist first. But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care about justice! What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if Zimmerman was convicted or not? If you interpret justice to mean the guy you happen to think is innocent doesn't get convicted then I don't care about that kind of justice. This case does not particularly interest me but when vitriol erupts from someone posting about it I find that more engaging. This is why I chimed in. I am not convinced that anger, insults and mudslinging are warranted by caring about the Zimmerman case as you profess to do. I prefer civilized, open minded dialogue that is why I started this discussion with you. Yes! Funnily enough, I do interpret justice to mean the guy I believe is innocent doesn't get convicted! I think OJ Simpson should have been found guilty. The fact that the jury disagreed with me is a matter of sublime indifference to me. I'll make my own mind up thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Nicely put. And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain* and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures when he was twelve), just bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic, was following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.
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Oh, its just a matter of time - you know, when Bevan announces the Srvastavas boys and Girish are selling the MUM campus to a developer and the university is no more. Granted it will only be Buck a a hundred others or so who will riot, but still. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. We do not have riots in Iowa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon, they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL! From: Richard J. Williams richard@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On YouTube? LoL! On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Let's see if we can come a little closer to figuring out where you sit on the U.S.'s right-left spectrum (domestically, at any rate). Do you oppose Food Stamps? Do you oppose abortion? (I realize unqualified Yes or No answers may not work for you, but by all means qualify away; that will help us adjust your location more precisely.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. If anything, I'm closest to being anti the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The terminology is misleading though. But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care about justice! What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if Zimmerman was convicted or not?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. Oh no, does this mean you're enlightened? Lord help us - another FFLifer who's had an irony-bypass operation. Oh-oh, Seraphita, you just blew it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Share - you have fully lost touch with reality here - on all counts. I worry for you - the closer someone gets to the truth about you - the more vicious you get. Get yourself a new counselor who is going to challenge you and make you extremely uncomfortable in your own skin. You can run sweetie, but you can't hide. Exactly. I must have hit a nerve. I posted nothing about emotional abuse so she must have seen the video that describes her MO to a tee. The vehemence of her attack is in proportion to how well the video nailed her and pissed her off. She responded exactly as the video predicted. She attacked the messenger and layed on a bunch of bullshit to avoid facing the issue of her own behavior. In her own mind posting a non-sequitur complaining about an old post I wrote about non-sequitures is a successful attack on my character. Oh the irony. Nice to see you back, em. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Irony Klunker IK from Raunchy pontificating about verbal abuse yet being the woman who posted the most hard porn item on FFL about others. But maybe she doesn't think hard porn is verbal abuse, especially when it's done in kind of a sneaky, indirect way.* In any case, certainly a major inner disconnect for a grandmother IMO. What's that? We shouldn't continue to judge her for something she did in the past? Plonk! * post #326688 From: raunchydog raunchydog@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional Don't confuse Share with the facts. Her mind is already made up. She sees things from her reality only. There in no room for reality in a discussion with her. Your point of view has no value despite the facts. It's a coping behavior that attempts to control the outcome of a dispute in relationships. Too bad she hasn't figured out that attacking the messenger and piling on more layers of bullshit to confuse the issue is a piss poor strategy on a public forum. http://youtu.be/amcDIPQ5z5E
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Yes! I wish I could write as well as Mark Steyn! That's what I've been trying to say all along. And on the irony question, I'm convinced that Brits are more sensitive to irony than Yanks so my ear is differently attuned to your ear. I hardly dare post this comment as the finger-waggers will no doubt immediately respond with accusations of stereotyping. But stereotypes often exist for good reason. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: Nothing you wrote suggested an ironic intention. So-called smiley faces mean nothing. If you wrote better you would not need them.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Nicely put. And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. It's a good technique, folks. Just characterize any substantive comments you don't have a response to as hysterical, and you have an instant excuse for ignoring them. Not everyone will be fooled, of course. But it really takes a lot less effort to maintain a following of Stupids, so if you can get yourself set up that way at the start, there won't be so much wear and tear on the ol' synapses.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice and that just *black listed* you on FFL. LOL, sorry. BTW if you want to back-off, I don't believe in abortion, except to protect the life of the mother and I don't believe in food stamps, except in real hardship cases. I used to be very liberal and then I got a job. Now I believe in personal responsibility. Welcome to FFL! LOL From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. Nicely put. And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain* and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures when he was twelve), just bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic, was following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
I'm willing to cut you some slack since you have admitted to being an emotionally retarded Brit. God knows, there are enough of those. But in my experience, people who claim that they don't do feelings are in fact awash in feelings all the time--they just don't know what to do with them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Nicely put. And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain* and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures when he was twelve), just bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic, was following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
I'm not even sure you know what irony is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Yes! I wish I could write as well as Mark Steyn! That's what I've been trying to say all along. And on the irony question, I'm convinced that Brits are more sensitive to irony than Yanks so my ear is differently attuned to your ear. I hardly dare post this comment as the finger-waggers will no doubt immediately respond with accusations of stereotyping. But stereotypes often exist for good reason. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: Nothing you wrote suggested an ironic intention. So-called smiley faces mean nothing. If you wrote better you would not need them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice and that just *black listed* you on FFL. Oh, sweetie, she didn't need to agree with you to give us an excellent idea of how she approaches political issues.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Blimey! We don't have Food Stamps here in the UK. The closest equivalent is welfare support for low-income groups and the unemployed. I've been the recipient of such largess myself back in the day and regard such payments as both morally justified and essential if we're not to have repeats of the recent summer riots! I'm happy to eat the rich. The state I can't abide is the one that tries to tell me that certain opinions are not PC and so not acceptable (by the way, give my thanks to the American Right for coming up with that useful expression politically correct!). The state I can't abide is the one that tries to micromanage every aspect of our lives. The state I can't abide is the one that behaves like your maiden aunt banning smoking in bars, waging the war on drugs, introducing minimum pricing on alcohol, . . . That sort of crap. Funnily enough, I've never really examined the issue of abortion so haven't actually got an opinion on its rights and wrongs but I'd support an individual woman's right to choose. She can decide for herself and I'll decide for myself. Regardless, I wouldn't allow myself to be placed on a political spectrum. My heroes are all renegades. Some are lefties like Blake, Shelley, old Tim Leary and Robert Anton Wilson; some are on the individualist right like Aleister Crowley, the Marquis de Sade (really!) and Max Stirner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Let's see if we can come a little closer to figuring out where you sit on the U.S.'s right-left spectrum (domestically, at any rate). Do you oppose Food Stamps? Do you oppose abortion? (I realize unqualified Yes or No answers may not work for you, but by all means qualify away; that will help us adjust your location more precisely.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
That's a can of worms you've opened up there! The whole therapy thing never really took off over here as it has in the USA. I've a soft spot for eccentrics and neurotics - who the fuck wants to be normal? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: But in my experience, people who claim that they don't do feelings are in fact awash in feelings all the time--they just don't know what to do with them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Are you saying that Fla vs Zimmerman is a poitical issue? From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice and that just *black listed* you on FFL. Oh, sweetie, she didn't need to agree with you to give us an excellent idea of how she approaches political issues.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Here's everything you need to know about irony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zACBeLOpdvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zACBeLOpdvQ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: I'm not even sure you know what irony is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice and that just *black listed* you on FFL. Oh, sweetie, she didn't need to agree with you to give us an excellent idea of how she approaches political issues. And approaches those with opinions she disagrees with. Or how she views outcomes of legal cases that she didn't like. Now we are all hysterical, childish North Americans who are irony-challenged. P.S. Perhaps the master of irony should show her how it's done. Unfortunately he is taking a powder.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Anyway, enough of this idle chat. It's Saturday night and it's 8pm here in London so I'm off out. Of course, we on FFL are in the privileged position of knowing that really we're just the One Self pretending to disagree with each other. Had you fooled there for a while didn't I?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: IOW: As far as Xeno is concerned, there is no need for honesty or integrity. Just too damn much trouble. I did not say there was no need for honesty or integrity. These are valuable assets for civilisation. I said that from a particular point of view, which was an interpretation of a religious point of view, were it to be the situation, I asked a question 'Where does that leave us as far as honesty and integrity? That is, if a religious point of view was essentially 'bad', 'corrupt'; that the models of behavior presented (for example, to expand on this) the genocide that YHWH perpetrates in the Bible, were they to be adopted by humans, honesty and integrity would preumably fall by the wayside. The views on honesty and integrity on FFL are widely divergent; personal attacks and the accusation that so-and-so is a liar or lacks integrity are rampant. There does not seem to be a judge and jury here, though some appear to want to take on that role. The correlation of name and form might be invoked here. Suppose there was a person 'X' concerning whom I felt displeasure. And then I thought and said I would like this person to die, heartfelt and honestly. And then succeeded in making that possibility an actuality. Now is that dishonest because I thought said and did exactly what I intended? Does it lack integrity because the fact was accomplished? Honesty has a dark twin, and integrity can cast a evil shadow. Tyrants and petty offcials have this kind of integrity, but it is not particularly suited to civilised life unless some very strong external retraints can be applied to people who think this way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Well, Judy you make a lot of assumptions yourself. And if I were you, I would not be so confident of them either. I too have cyber friends, but I don't spend hours and hours for many many months defending them. Obviously Robin is very very important to you. Personally, I don't think he needs defending. But as you say, YMMV, and we all make choices about how to spend our time. You wrote about how important the biblical concept of being your brother's keeper is to you. I wonder sometimes if, given your energy and one pointedness, you might not make a difference in another person's life by doing something for them off line - you know, volunteering, helping others in some way in person, helping others in real life, rather than in your head. Maybe you do this already. I should not assume that you don't. but I don't, frankly, consider your defense of Robin as being your brother's keeper, at least not in a significant way. One thing we do share is loyalty to friends. I am about as loyal as they come. I guess you assumed I wasn't? Wrong. But I think we do agree that in many ways we are very different. Which is good news to me, not sad as you wrote below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: (snip) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. Wayback, you have a tendency to make a whole lot of assumptions. You might want to think about not making them quite so confidently. Just for one thing, I have a number of friends on FFL, including Robin (but not, obviously, you). I think it's peculiar, to say the least, to rule out the possibility of friendship via cyberspace. (And let's also note that human beings aren't created via compilations of posts; rather, the posts and their compilations are created by human beings. Perhaps that's what's confusing you.) More importantly, I'm fascinated that anybody would think there's anything weird about standing up for your friends (or even those who are *not* your friends, for that matter) when they've been falsely accused or otherwise unfairly treated. It seems to denigrate the biblical principle of being one's brother's keeper. Me, I'll stand behind that principle and do my best to uphold it for as long as I draw breath. YMOV. Sad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: (snip) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. Wayback, you have a tendency to make a whole lot of assumptions. You might want to think about not making them quite so confidently. You seem to have no difficulty doing this, making assumptions confidently. Would you deny others the opportunity to do the same? Susan does not post much. She is kind of in the background here, wayback in fact, but I think she presents a certain steadiness that most of us lack, in the way she communicates. The rest of us go off on strange tangents and she stays the course.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: (snip) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. Wayback, you have a tendency to make a whole lot of assumptions. You might want to think about not making them quite so confidently. You seem to have no difficulty doing this, making assumptions confidently. Would you deny others the opportunity to do the same? No, would you? Is English your native language? Susan does not post much. She is kind of in the background here, wayback in fact, but I think she presents a certain steadiness that most of us lack, in the way she communicates. The rest of us go off on strange tangents and she stays the course.
Re: [FairfieldLife] More for the Woo-Woo Warriors
hey noozguru, I liked your idea in another post that we have sections of FFL like politics, etc. and I think Woo Woo should definitely be one of those sections. Maybe we could also have a Recipe section and an Irony section or an Ironic Recipes section ha ha. More ideas for sections: Pets, Rantings and Ravings, Tech News, Am I Really Enlightened, Healing Modalities (I'll be a big contributor to this one.), Travelogues, I Just Feel Like Arguing With Someone or Anyone, etc. PS I don't know numbers on the recert course but the visitors' section in the women's Dome is pretty full and feeling wonderful. As for conspiracy theorists now being seen as sane, all credit to NSA or the Illuminati. Or both! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] More for the Woo-Woo Warriors This young guy has quite a few videos, mainly about Vedic astrology including some Buddha at the Gas Pump style ones with known astrologers. He also has some on UFOs, crop circles, tantra, etc. He does a pretty good job of them and I thought some of the folks here might find them interesting. His YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/KRSchannel?feature=watch His web site: http://www.astrologykrs.com Usually young Indians don't want to have anything to do with these things. He's also kind of a hobbyist astrologer as he likes to make clear he doesn't do consultations. He learned astrology from his uncle and has written some books on the subject.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Well, Judy you make a lot of assumptions yourself. And if I were you, I would not be so confident of them either. Which ones? I too have cyber friends, I'm sure you do. but I don't spend hours and hours for many many months defending them. How many cyber friends do you have who have been the focus for months and months, mostly in their absence, of all kinds of false and unfair attacks and comments from a bunch of people on an electronic forum seemingly bent on portraying them as a monster? Obviously Robin is very very important to you. Personally, I don't think he needs defending. I think *anybody* in the situation I just described needs defending. But as you say, YMMV, and we all make choices about how to spend our time. You wrote about how important the biblical concept of being your brother's keeper is to you. I wonder sometimes if, given your energy and one pointedness, you might not make a difference in another person's life by doing something for them off line - you know, volunteering, helping others in some way in person, helping others in real life, rather than in your head. Maybe you do this already. I should not assume that you don't. That's right, you shouldn't. but I don't, frankly, consider your defense of Robin as being your brother's keeper, at least not in a significant way. It's not one of the more significant ways, no. But it certainly falls under that heading. The way I see it, it's a better use of my time on FFL to defend someone who is being unjustly treated than to participate in some of the more frivolous conversations here. One thing we do share is loyalty to friends. I am about as loyal as they come. I guess you assumed I wasn't? On what basis did you make that guess? I don't believe I said anything at all about whether you were loyal to your friends. Wrong. But I think we do agree that in many ways we are very different. Which is good news to me, not sad as you wrote below. I also don't believe I said anything at all about being sad that you and I were very different in many ways. One way we're similar is that I am also very thankful that we are so different. You appear to have made all sorts of assumptions about what I was saying, including assumptions about my assumptions, that are flat-out wrong. Now how about addressing more of what I actually said? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: (snip) Bingo and well said - that is exactly the weirdness of the situation: expecting apologies on behalf of someone else - someone you never met or talked to on the phone, no less. Someone who is not your friend, someone who has been created out of the compilation of posts at FFL. Wayback, you have a tendency to make a whole lot of assumptions. You might want to think about not making them quite so confidently. Just for one thing, I have a number of friends on FFL, including Robin (but not, obviously, you). I think it's peculiar, to say the least, to rule out the possibility of friendship via cyberspace. (And let's also note that human beings aren't created via compilations of posts; rather, the posts and their compilations are created by human beings. Perhaps that's what's confusing you.) More importantly, I'm fascinated that anybody would think there's anything weird about standing up for your friends (or even those who are *not* your friends, for that matter) when they've been falsely accused or otherwise unfairly treated. It seems to denigrate the biblical principle of being one's brother's keeper. Me, I'll stand behind that principle and do my best to uphold it for as long as I draw breath. YMOV. Sad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: IOW: As far as Xeno is concerned, there is no need for honesty or integrity. Just too damn much trouble. And this is just meaningless bafflegab. I did not say there was no need for honesty or integrity. These are valuable assets for civilisation. I said that from a particular point of view, which was an interpretation of a religious point of view, were it to be the situation, I asked a question 'Where does that leave us as far as honesty and integrity? That is, if a religious point of view was essentially 'bad', 'corrupt'; that the models of behavior presented (for example, to expand on this) the genocide that YHWH perpetrates in the Bible, were they to be adopted by humans, honesty and integrity would preumably fall by the wayside. The views on honesty and integrity on FFL are widely divergent; personal attacks and the accusation that so-and-so is a liar or lacks integrity are rampant. There does not seem to be a judge and jury here, though some appear to want to take on that role. The correlation of name and form might be invoked here. Suppose there was a person 'X' concerning whom I felt displeasure. And then I thought and said I would like this person to die, heartfelt and honestly. And then succeeded in making that possibility an actuality. Now is that dishonest because I thought said and did exactly what I intended? Does it lack integrity because the fact was accomplished? Honesty has a dark twin, and integrity can cast a evil shadow. Tyrants and petty offcials have this kind of integrity, but it is not particularly suited to civilised life unless some very strong external retraints can be applied to people who think this way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
So Brits are like Vulcans then - British Vulcans - who would-a thought it?! Now we know who is doing all the crop circles that Nabby gets so worked up about. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. I'm willing to cut you some slack since you have admitted to being an emotionally retarded Brit. God knows, there are enough of those. But in my experience, people who claim that they don't do feelings are in fact awash in feelings all the time--they just don't know what to do with them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Nicely put. And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain* and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures when he was twelve), just bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic, was following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Age of Aquarius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: (snip) women and other minorities Er, John... Judy, You have to read the first sentence on my post to understand what I meant. The phrase you selected has to be taken in context with that meaning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] More for the Woo-Woo Warriors
That was IF FFL were a forum instead of a newsgroup format which is what YahooGroups is. I suspect most people here have used forums even if it is a support forum for some software or hardware device. For the forum challenged here is an apropos example: http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/ I hope folks check out the KRS guy's stuff. It's pretty good and he interviews people like Chakrapani. His little segments on astrology are particularly good and he approaches subjects with a good sense of humor. Pixar has done a little NSA video that has gone viral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=55D-ybnYQSs I really hope the NSA and government really feels the heat on how out of order they are in establishing essentially a Stasi operation. It's un-American. On 07/13/2013 01:07 PM, Share Long wrote: hey noozguru, I liked your idea in another post that we have sections of FFL like politics, etc. and I think Woo Woo should definitely be one of those sections. Maybe we could also have a Recipe section and an Irony section or an Ironic Recipes section ha ha. More ideas for sections: Pets, Rantings and Ravings, Tech News, Am I Really Enlightened, Healing Modalities (I'll be a big contributor to this one.), Travelogues, I Just Feel Like Arguing With Someone or Anyone, etc. PS I don't know numbers on the recert course but the visitors' section in the women's Dome is pretty full and feeling wonderful. As for conspiracy theorists now being seen as sane, all credit to NSA or the Illuminati. Or both! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] More for the Woo-Woo Warriors This young guy has quite a few videos, mainly about Vedic astrology including some Buddha at the Gas Pump style ones with known astrologers. He also has some on UFOs, crop circles, tantra, etc. He does a pretty good job of them and I thought some of the folks here might find them interesting. His YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/KRSchannel?feature=watch His web site: http://www.astrologykrs.com Usually young Indians don't want to have anything to do with these things. He's also kind of a hobbyist astrologer as he likes to make clear he doesn't do consultations. He learned astrology from his uncle and has written some books on the subject.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Age of Aquarius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: (snip) women and other minorities Er, John... Judy, You have to read the first sentence on my post to understand what I meant. The phrase you selected has to be taken in context with that meaning. I understand what you meant. It's the word other that's the problem here, since women aren't a minority. You had just women and minorities in your first sentence; that's what it should be here. No big deal, I was really just twitting you. It's a common mistake.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Blimey! We don't have Food Stamps here in the UK. The closest equivalent is welfare support for low-income groups and the unemployed. Close enough. I've been the recipient of such largess myself back in the day and regard such payments as both morally justified and essential if we're not to have repeats of the recent summer riots! I'm happy to eat the rich. The state I can't abide is the one that tries to tell me that certain opinions are not PC and so not acceptable (by the way, give my thanks to the American Right for coming up with that useful expression politically correct!). Actually I believe it was the far left (communist, socialist) that came up with it originally, in the nonironic sense. Later it became mildly ironic at the hands of the New Left, and was finally turned into a pejorative by the right. (That's in the U.S.; not sure about elsewhere). The state I can't abide is the one that tries to micromanage every aspect of our lives. The state I can't abide is the one that behaves like your maiden aunt banning smoking in bars, waging the war on drugs, introducing minimum pricing on alcohol, . . . That sort of crap. Funnily enough, I've never really examined the issue of abortion so haven't actually got an opinion on its rights and wrongs but I'd support an individual woman's right to choose. She can decide for herself and I'll decide for myself. OK, no argument on either. In this country, those who rail about the nanny state would be likely to oppose both Food Stamps and abortion; it wouldn't occur to them that prohibiting abortion could hardly be a more intrusive manifestation of nanny-state-ism. (Except for the fact that the nannies in question are mostly male.) Regardless, I wouldn't allow myself to be placed on a political spectrum. My heroes are all renegades. Some are lefties like Blake, Shelley, old Tim Leary and Robert Anton Wilson; some are on the individualist right like Aleister Crowley, the Marquis de Sade (really!) and Max Stirner. Perhaps you're more of a Libertarian? Do you have those in the U.K.? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Let's see if we can come a little closer to figuring out where you sit on the U.S.'s right-left spectrum (domestically, at any rate). Do you oppose Food Stamps? Do you oppose abortion? (I realize unqualified Yes or No answers may not work for you, but by all means qualify away; that will help us adjust your location more precisely.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told him to do. Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many conservatives disdain.
[FairfieldLife] Maria and Jimmy Show in the Tennis Circuit
Maria Sharapova hires Jimmy Connors to be her new coach. She should quickly improve from her early exit at Wimbledon. Meanwhile, Connors will be back in the tennis news to spark interest in the sport. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/maria-sharapova-hires-jimmy-connors-coach-213148917.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Hi Judy - someone posted it on Facebook. Didn't expect all this traction, but looks like a perfect response in retrospect, gives good insights in to this Seraphita person - male or female? The old man showed lot of heart - his pain and anguish even as he covered all the points. Perfect response for our emotionally stunted Seraphita. Wonder what Xeno thinks? I would at least convict George of manslaughter. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:57 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this? On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote: When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep. *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
Dear Share, You think by forcefully denying, shouting, screaming you can alter the truth. Judy has time and again posted the timeline of your words - the inconsistencies and contradictions, you have never once addressed those. Raunchydog was spot on with her video. You are an emotional abuser, all you have done is attacked Judy - calling it as her opinion, asking for professional credentials, calling her mean, arrogant, evil and what not. Don't forget your emotional handicaps - you are easily triggered and suffer from attachment disorder. Judy OTOH is extremely healthy - emotionally and psychologically. So your judgements are useless not Judy's. Unless you can logically address Judy's posts of your behavior you can cry and shout yourself silly and hoarse but you will be judged as an emotional abuser, someone who's severely stunted - emotionally and psychologically Ravi On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@...sharelong60@...wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than honest with this case and has tried to deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told him to do. Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many conservatives disdain.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Re Perhaps you're more of a Libertarian? Do you have those in the U.K.?: Not enough! I've always liked the label libertarian, perhaps because it chimes with libertine and liberal - liberal in the old-fashioned, 19th-century, sense of individual freedoms and not your current US sense which homes-in on group values and the ghettoisation that attitude entails). But libertarian in the USA also seems to imply a fuck-the-poor attitude which I don't share. I've read a few of Ayn Rand's books (yep, I know she rejects the label libertarian but that's what she was essentially) and respect her rants against state encroachment but she never addresses the issue that wealth gets concentrated in elites. Here in the UK they've been able to ascertain, using DNA analysis, that most of the wealth of the country is in the hands of people who can trace their roots back to the Norman Conquest in 1066! That make it the longest military occupation in history! You can't ignore brute facts like that. But although I sympathise with the left's concern with poverty (I've been at the bottom of the pile myself in the past and even today can count drug addicts and seriously fucked-up people amongst my friends) the over-riding priority for me has always been individual freedom - and that was also the case when all I had to eat (as a latter-day hippie) was onion sandwiches and I was sleeping on a mattress rescued from a rubbish tip! I think the thing that really pisses me off about present-day lefties is the white-guilt crap. Yes, I know the British Empire once controlled a quarter of the world (and I admit to feeling slightly smug and amused about that fact!) but that was before I was born, and just as I always treat individuals as individuals I demand that they treat me the same. And if they don't - screw 'em! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Regardless, I wouldn't allow myself to be placed on a political spectrum. My heroes are all renegades. Some are lefties like Blake, Shelley, old Tim Leary and Robert Anton Wilson; some are on the individualist right like Aleister Crowley, the Marquis de Sade (really!) and Max Stirner. Perhaps you're more of a Libertarian? Do you have those in the U.K.?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
there are a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there with guns who don't know how to use them responsibly and Zimmerman is one of them - if he hadn't been trying to play cop, Martin would be alive today. As someone who has used .22's, .38's, .357 Magnums and has fired my brothers SKS and his model 1894 Winchester (and others) I say that ownership of firearms here in the US is an unfortunate necessity for many, but one should know when and how to use them. I do. Zimmerman doesn't and a young man is dead because of Zimmerman's stupidity. He should be in jail tonight. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than honest with this case and has tried to deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told him to do. Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many conservatives disdain.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Who'd have thunk it?: I remember my dad saying once, when the family was watching Star Trek on the box, Why don't they just put Spock in charge of the Enterprise? None of us could think of a rebuttal. Spock's the one who relied on logic - none of this touchy-feely nonsense. As Plato pleaded in The Republic isn't that the kind of man (women were excluded according to the Divine Plato) we want in leadership positions? On the other hand, I do find these (fabricated) crop circles rather pleasing. Nothing wrong with a bit of fun. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: So Brits are like Vulcans then - British Vulcans - who would-a thought it?! Now we know who is doing all the crop circles that Nabby gets so worked up about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
Oh and by the way, stupid people generally don't learn well, if at all. It won't be long till Zimmerman is in trouble with the law again. Wait and see. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than honest with this case and has tried to deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it. On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check. Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told him to do. Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many conservatives disdain.
