[FairfieldLife] Re: Revolutionary Millenarian TM
I always liked Airplane's lyrics to Crown of Creation: You are the Crown of Creation You are the Crown of Creation and you've got no place to go. Soon you'll attain the stability you strive for in the only way that it's granted in a place among the fossils of our time. In loyalty to their kind they cannot tolerate our minds. In loyalty to our kind we cannot tolerate their obstruction. Life is Change How it differs from the rocks I've seen their ways too often for my liking New worlds to gain My life is to survive and be alive for you. The lyrics were adapted from John Wyndham's sci-fi novel The Chrysalids about children in a post-nuclear war America developing psychic powers and evolving away from their parents' generation. Some quotes from the book: Your work is to survive. Neither his kind, nor his kind of thinking will survive long. They are the crown of creation, they are ambition fulfilled they have nowhere more to go. But life is change, that is how it differs from rocks, change is its very nature. They have become history without being aware of it. They are determined still that there is a final form to defend: soon they will attain the stability they strive for, in the form it is granted a place among the fossils In loyalty to their kind they cannot tolerate our rise; in loyalty to our kind, we cannot tolerate their obstruction. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: TM Millenarianism: Scientific research shows that even small groups of people meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of the population) can quietly transform trends in society from conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation. Have a wonderful meditation, -Buck in the Dome Look what's happening out in the streets Got a revolution Got to revolution Hey I'm dancing down the streets Got a revolution Got to revolution Ain't it amazing all the people I meet Got a revolution Got to revolution One generation got old One generation got soul This generation got no destination to hold Pick up the cry Hey now it's time for you and me Got a revolution Got to revolution Come on now we're marching to the sea Got a revolution Got to revolution Who will take it from you We will and who are we We are volunteers of America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SboRijhWFDU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
When you said, I was there, briefly, at first I thought you were referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to ask you if you got lucky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Don't you guys have libel and slander laws?
James Ellroy could keep all your lawyers working overtime single-handed. Check this out at 4:09. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32M2N3zD-Tk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32M2N3zD-Tk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
And my local stop is Bawdier Analogy (Ealing Broadway). Could have been worse. What's even odder is that the stop smells like Burnt Bacon Rind it seems. Confused? From the Telegraph: The London Underground map has inspired a range of spin-offs over the years, with everything from musical icons to popular restaurants plotted along its interweaving lines. But now a 54-year-old systems analyst from Blackpool has created the most bizarre version to date a map that shows what each station tastes like. James Wannerton tastes words when he reads or hears them thanks to a neurological condition called synaesthesia that links senses which are normally experienced separately. He first noticed each Underground station created a distinct taste aged four when travelling to school with his mother from the family home near Willesden, north London. Since then Mr Wannerton has continued to keep notes and make special trips to London after leaving the city to complete his taste map of the Tube. The 49-year project was finally completed earlier this year. http://tinyurl.com/lgw6syw http://tinyurl.com/lgw6syw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Don't be without this handy map: http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
What became of the promise of Virtual Reality (VR) - the computer-simulated environment that mimics places in the real world or imagined worlds? When they manage to pull off that trick to perfection I'll be sold on computer games. Chaos magician Ramsey Dukes claimed (in his book Words Made Flesh) that if they ever do create a simulation that is indistinguishable from one's everyday experience people would have to include in the game's program some distinguishing personal feature - a tattoo, or a missing finger, for example - so that you could always check to see whether you're here, or there. Dukes also claimed that if you could access many worlds via VR that seem as authentic as our consensus reality it would be inevitable that people would start to treat their usual lives as if they also were simulations . . . with intriguing consequences. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I knew those guys. The company was backed by a band leader from Florida. On 08/25/2013 07:18 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: How about Castle Wolfenstein? *From:* Seraphita s3raphita@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:05 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Shit happens and war never seems to make anybody feel better . . . It's surprising how many of that generation looked back on the war years as a golden time. And I'm not just talking Yanks and Brits but also Russians, French and even Germans. I think it's that we're all in this together vibe, everyone working towards a common goal. When peace came everyone went back to looking after number one. Not saying that's necessarily so bad . . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: Petra and I got married in Enneads, at the Hindu temple (the previous temple, across the road from where the new, gleaming white marble temple now stands.) Enneads (the title of Plotinus' neoplatonic classic) = Neasden. That's a brisk walk from where I live. I only know the new, white marble building. Whenever I walk past the place I feel like I've just saved myself the airfare to India and can enjoy the spectacle of women in those glorious, colourful saris and serene white-haired men in turbans. Recently, there's been a publicity campaign to get rid of those pavement stains in the area caused by the locals constantly spitting out betel leaf combined with areca nut that is a popular stimulant! http://tinyurl.com/kx5c5ff http://tinyurl.com/kx5c5ff
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
According to the chap who tastes words (see previous post) Neasden smells like raw potato - I like the aroma of raw spuds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: Petra and I got married in Enneads, at the Hindu temple (the previous temple, across the road from where the new, gleaming white marble temple now stands.) Enneads (the title of Plotinus' neoplatonic classic) = Neasden. That's a brisk walk from where I live. I only know the new, white marble building. Whenever I walk past the place I feel like I've just saved myself the airfare to India and can enjoy the spectacle of women in those glorious, colourful saris and serene white-haired men in turbans. Recently, there's been a publicity campaign to get rid of those pavement stains in the area caused by the locals constantly spitting out betel leaf combined with areca nut that is a popular stimulant! http://tinyurl.com/kx5c5ff
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Break out those anti-war signs because Obombie wants his war goaded on by the NeoCon devils. Oh the chatter here about is it Kali Yuga or Sat Yuga. Is the Sat Yuga over-rated? Hindus believe that civilization degenerates spiritually during the Kali Yuga - the Dark Age. But who would want to live in age before they had modern medicine and anaesthetics, or modern bathrooms with showers and flushing toilets, or home entertainment like this laptop I'm typing on, my colour TV and digital radio, . . . the list goes on and on. Think how cities - and people - really stank before modern hygiene, and recall the unrelenting poverty our ancestors lived in. I'm really glad to have avoided that period. If that seems a bit materialistic then note that no generation in history has ever been as free as we modern westerners. Our ability to openly speak our minds would have left our forebears gob-smacked. OK, so maybe our distant parents were all walking around permanently blissed-out and at one with the Real - bully for them. For those of us born since WWII, the Kali Yuga - the Dark Age - seems pretty tolerable no? And isn't the Kali Yuga narrative in flat contradiction with the Age of Aquarius? : When the Moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars then peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars. Actually Jupiter aligns with Mars several times a year and the moon is in the 7th House for two hours every day but ignoring that baloney isn't it supposed to be love peace we have to look forward to? (Totally with you on the war question. Let's not get involved in a Syrian civil war - no one is going to win this one; there are no possible happy endings. Let's do the best we can on the humanitarian aid front.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
Scary! Stop playing that game now before it's too late! Get Susan Polgar's Chess Tactics for Champions and chill out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? My favorite thing to do when I play Grand Theft Auto, drive around knocking people off, until I come to some women. I pull up to this one and pull up to that one, until I find that one special woman, and she jumps in the car with me. The predatory instinct sure kicks in the below the saint and even below the belt feelings while I do this. Then I drive the car with her sitting by my side. Use the control to change the music to the talk radio station, then I proceed to drive on through the alleys, and even some of the bushes if need be. We are alone. All of a sudden, that car starts a shaking, rocking and hearing all kinds of noises. Then it stops, she climbs out the car and begins to walk away. Well, I'll have none of that, I get out of the car too and switch to the largest weapon on the control panel that I have and shoot er. Yep. Shoot er for leaving. I get back in the car and drive around and run over a few more people, then I go to the secret garage and switch vehicles, because by that point just before, the cops were on to me. Make love not war.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
http://vimeo.com/51681091 http://vimeo.com/51681091 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjYZToXuJaM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? My favorite thing to do when I play Grand Theft Auto, drive around knocking people off, until I come to some women. I pull up to this one and pull up to that one, until I find that one special woman, and she jumps in the car with me. The predatory instinct sure kicks in the below the saint and even below the belt feelings while I do this. Then I drive the car with her sitting by my side. Use the control to change the music to the talk radio station, then I proceed to drive on through the alleys, and even some of the bushes if need be. We are alone. All of a sudden, that car starts a shaking, rocking and hearing all kinds of noises. Then it stops, she climbs out the car and begins to walk away. Well, I'll have none of that, I get out of the car too and switch to the largest weapon on the control panel that I have and shoot er. Yep. Shoot er for leaving. I get back in the car and drive around and run over a few more people, then I go to the secret garage and switch vehicles, because by that point just before, the cops were on to me. Make love not war. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty Welcome MUM MA in Film Season 1 Anythings goes
Yep, I really enjoyed that movie. I'm not really a fan of Johnny Depp but he played nut-job Hunter S. Thompson to perfection. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scx2blWVMQk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: http://vimeo.com/51681091 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjYZToXuJaM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? My favorite thing to do when I play Grand Theft Auto, drive around knocking people off, until I come to some women. I pull up to this one and pull up to that one, until I find that one special woman, and she jumps in the car with me. The predatory instinct sure kicks in the below the saint and even below the belt feelings while I do this. Then I drive the car with her sitting by my side. Use the control to change the music to the talk radio station, then I proceed to drive on through the alleys, and even some of the bushes if need be. We are alone. All of a sudden, that car starts a shaking, rocking and hearing all kinds of noises. Then it stops, she climbs out the car and begins to walk away. Well, I'll have none of that, I get out of the car too and switch to the largest weapon on the control panel that I have and shoot er. Yep. Shoot er for leaving. I get back in the car and drive around and run over a few more people, then I go to the secret garage and switch vehicles, because by that point just before, the cops were on to me. Make love not war. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
I loved that post! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: Knock yourself out. A few years back, I posted about a guy in Palmy named Kale (sp?) who'd cross-dress at gigs and we'd stick up for when rugbyheads leaving the Fat Lady's Arms would give him shit. I LOLd when I saw the same dude having a very erotic bare-chested boxing match (complete with gloves) with a local known bonehead on the front lawn of their shared flat. I LOLd even harder years later when I saw the bash-the-fash in Wellington vids posted on here when Kale, who'd obviously joined the dark side, was bloodied and crying about the whole affair. Slammy was pretty stoked about this news and was working on a printable Kale cut-out doll that you could alternate outfits between a woman's dress and a Nazi uniform. I wonder if Slammy got to finish it. - Philfy Vermin @ punks.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
I'm trying to decide whether those guys in the poster are just the sort that the Fuhrer would have had shipped off to the camps, or whether they'd be the camp guards. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: Seraphita: Shit happens and war never seems to make anybody feel better . . . It's surprising how many of that generation looked back on the war years as a golden time... Yeah, but what's up with those gay, Nazi-inspired, skinheads and lesbians over there? They're just too sexy for their hair! OH my God, we're doomed! I'm not kidding - I thought we won the war.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
Yes, if I ever do get around to playing computer games I think I'll go for Silent Hunter a World War II submarine combat simulation. You get to be a U-boat captain and sink British ships. You see: chess/Silent Hunter - both of them war games . . . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote Chess, huh, Sep? (Have 6 boards here and no one is playing them at the moment.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Me, I love Sharon Tate. Check out this clip. How anyone could butcher someone as beautiful as this is beyond me: http://tinyurl.com/l5ca7e3 are equally Lots of beautiful women in the world. How anybody could butcher *anybody*, other than in self-defense, is beyond me. Yes,I accept your rebuke. Of course although Sharon naturally has attracted the most attention the other victims are equally deserving of being saluted. Steve Parent - an 18-year-old kid with everything to live for - butchered by speed-freak Tex Watson. Utterly,utterly pointless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens between lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a learning lessons life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, we are offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as artist. I must have chosen somewhere between those options you present - though I priotitsed the cushy option. Maybe I just need a well-deserved rest. The point I wish to emphasise is that if the Advaitan view is correct, we (the One Self) really are experiencing all the lives that human beings are capable off -we are all the One Self. The downside of this view is that I must necessarily actually be Pee-wee Herman! . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: -- Or perhaps that attitude toward homosexuality is all ignorant crap, and people are born gay because *they* had that attitude in a previous lifetime, and this time around need to experience what it feels like to be discriminated against. Maybe that attitude is currently in the process of diminishing because the straight folks alive today learned that lesson in *their* previous lifetimes. Maybe in another generation or so nobody will be able to understand why it was ever thought that there was anything wrong with being gay. Possibly - and I really do mean possibly - your are correct . One of the problems with homosexually I have had is that the male penis and female vagina are obviously designed for each other. The male-male-sex and female-female sex seem to me odd for that reason. The situation is compounded by current ideas of neo-Darwinism. In this view every feature of human life is the result of an evolutionary advantage of the characteristic in question. Sounds plausible. But how then do you explain homosexual liaisons? The theories I have read sound completely unconvincing. A gay is far more likely not to succeed in transmitting his genes to future generations. Maybe it is Nature and not God who doesn't like queers?
[FairfieldLife] Re: When the gods of rock mixed with the common people . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: That dance crowd was a little tame though, not like the later 60's. These guys were in their Sunday dinner finery and barely shakin'. Sunday dinner finery is now registering to me as : The men at least made an effort to look smart.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: I don't think creepy quite covers it in Hitler's case. Yes, I must admit it probably helps to be German to have followed Hitler as Fuhrer. I wouldn't have trusted his directions to the nearest beer hall. When I was 11 in 1962 and living in Berlin, a German woman was talking to my Mum about how one day, during the final Battle for Berlin, a group of Nazis came around everyone's houses to ask for volunteers to make a last stand against the Russian invasion at Tempelhof Airport. A few days later the Russians appeared on her doorstep and they were all taken to Tempelhof to clear up the dead bodies of the teenage boys who'd heeded the call and been massacred as a result. Shades of Thermopylae. 1962: this was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. My dad - a fluent German speaker - came home one day and said he'd heard a group of middle-aged Germans talking. One said to the other: Well, at least if there is a war they won't be able to claim we started it this time. Priceless!
[FairfieldLife] Too many stars coming to the end of their lives for my liking
There's the nostalgia element of course but mostly it's a chilling reminder of my own mortality! Legendary singer Linda Ronstadt, 67, told AARP today that she can't sing a note because she suffers from Parkinson's disease. http://goo.gl/KlgqcO http://goo.gl/KlgqcO
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: The brutality of that war was unimaginable. What a chilling story. As a child (hell, as an adult) I was always horrified by the total brutality of the German-Russian Eastern Front conflict during WWII - including the use of prisoners as slave labour and their being worked to death - both sides adopting the same approach. In contrast, British and German prisoners were treated with comparative respect. And for the Brits there were also the more romantic episodes of war, for example, German battleships like the Bismark sinking British cruisers but eventually being cornered themselves and being sunk. The German-Russian barbarism was unspeakable, in the original sense of that word: talking about it would degrade the speakers themselves. But one day, someone mentioned to me something that - as soon as I heard it - I recognised as true. If the Russians hadn't prosecuted the war with such ferocity and callous disregard of life then when the Yanks and Brits had landed at Normandy they would have had to adopt the same degrading tactics. In a way, the Russians accepted the blood guilt and maybe there's something of bad faith about striking superior attitudes about western, more civilised, conduct. (And let's not forget the controversial issue of the carpet-bombing of German and Japanese civilian areas carried out by British and American heavy bombers.) Having said that, the mass-rape of German girls and women after the surrender - carried out by Russian occupying forces - really turns my stomach and has no possible justification.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Graham Green and Russian roulette?
Same for me when I replied to feste. Is FFL under a Stuxnet computer-worm attack? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: This seems to be a new wrinkle for certain posts. Same happened when I replied to feste.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
That Wiki page has now had its heading changed to Chelsea Manning and a note appears underneath saying:This page is currently protected from editing until August 25, 2013, or until disputes have been resolved. That must be a bitch of a job having to resolve controversial disputes at Wikipedia! I was taking another look at the page to see if Chelsea/Bradley will serve her/his time at a military prison. I know he (getting bored typing he/her) was convicted in an Army court but here in the UK military prisoners serving long sentences are transferred to regular prisons. (And 35 years counts as a long sentence in the UK. In the USA, I learn, the longest jail term to a single person went to Charles Scott Robinson, an American child rapist, who was sentenced in 1994 to 30, years, the jury having recommended 5,000 years for each of the six counts against him.) Because I have a morbid curiosity, I was wondering if it's ever happened that a convict has served time in a men's prison and subsequently been transferred to a women's prison after the necessary gender-reassignment. Why anyone on FFL should know the answer to that one I can't imagine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: I see the Wikipedia entry on Manning has already been updated and refers to Bradley/Chelsea as she. Will the lady now be sent to a woman's prison? What larks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Allahu Akbar- Nidal Hasan Guilty
Nidal Hasan: the first man to suffer from pre-traumatic stress disorder. Just the thought of being sent to Afghanistan was enough to send him haywire. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: In this day and age anything is possible! From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Allahu Akbar- Nidal Hasan Guilty  So, you mean he is no longer alleged to have killed multiple people, with multiple witnesses to his crimes? But, what if all the witnesses were delusional??? --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: The dude was found guilty... unanimously on all counts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Ah! I see it's to be Fort Leavenworth for Chelsea. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: That Wiki page has now had its heading changed to Chelsea Manning and a note appears underneath saying:This page is currently protected from editing until August 25, 2013, or until disputes have been resolved. That must be a bitch of a job having to resolve controversial disputes at Wikipedia! I was taking another look at the page to see if Chelsea/Bradley will serve her/his time at a military prison. I know he (getting bored typing he/her) was convicted in an Army court but here in the UK military prisoners serving long sentences are transferred to regular prisons. (And 35 years counts as a long sentence in the UK. In the USA, I learn, the longest jail term to a single person went to Charles Scott Robinson, an American child rapist, who was sentenced in 1994 to 30, years, the jury having recommended 5,000 years for each of the six counts against him.) Because I have a morbid curiosity, I was wondering if it's ever happened that a convict has served time in a men's prison and subsequently been transferred to a women's prison after the necessary gender-reassignment. Why anyone on FFL should know the answer to that one I can't imagine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: I see the Wikipedia entry on Manning has already been updated and refers to Bradley/Chelsea as she. Will the lady now be sent to a woman's prison? What larks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Justice demands that Simon Cowell ends up as a cockroach on a gay bathhouse wall for his next 100 lifetimes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The second birth in that sex is more balanced,  while the third incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous birth which was exaggerated. This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other karmas and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That could be untangling a mess that you'll never figure out. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years  Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and feminine aspects. For example, we all have estrogen and testosterone flowing around in our bodies. Given the ever expanding nature of the universe, it makes sense to me that a variety of expressions with regards to gender will be the rule rather than the exception. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years  That was the Theosophists' line. They said that all of us are reincarnated over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be scorned, and so on . . .  including, naturally, each of us will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men. The thinking was that if you were a woman in a previous life and had just now incarnated as a man you could have homosexual tendencies this time around. Or if you were a woman and your next reincarnation was scheduled to be as a man you might have lesbian tendencies. (And various changes on that theme.) What's neat about the theory is that it recognises that homosexuality is unnatural (most people's initial gut reaction?) but it justifies the orientation as being supernaturally ordained. Nice one! (It's a mirror image of the usual liberal approach that any sexual orientation is natural and so acceptable.) Serious question: now that Bradley/Chelsea has requested the new identity does that mean that liberal outlets like CNN will call her Chelsea while conservative outlets like Fox will call him Bradley in their news coverage? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: I think it was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible explanation from Charlie Lutes: that a person is carrying non physical gender qualities over from a previous life time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche. This Manning chap becomes more embarrassing by the day. From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read: While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from military service. Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work. Not any more. She's been dishonorably discharged.She said she joined the Army to try to overcome her sense that she was a woman. Now that the trial is over and she's out of the Army, she's decided to go for it. FWIW, research is increasingly showing that gender dysphoria has biological causes. It's beginning to look as though a man, say, doesn't want to be a woman because he's screwed up, but is screwed up because he wants to be a woman.It's hard to imagine what it must be like to feel you're in the wrong kind of body and to know that everybody thinks you're someone you know you aren't--and for this to be the case from the time you were a very little kid. That would mess with anyone's mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Re the Theosophists' view I reference below All of us are reincarnated over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men.: This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an artist - to me: God is taking each of us on a universal tour to experience all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are right and we are actually the One Self pretending to be many different individuals then that accords perfectly with this interpretation of reincarnation. The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around is pretty vulgar really. And the more spiritualised version that we're paying our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy projected onto the Cosmos. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The second birth in that sex is more balanced,  while the third incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous birth which was exaggerated. This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other karmas and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That could be untangling a mess that you'll never figure out. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years  Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and feminine aspects. For example, we all have estrogen and testosterone flowing around in our bodies. Given the ever expanding nature of the universe, it makes sense to me that a variety of expressions with regards to gender will be the rule rather than the exception. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years  That was the Theosophists' line. They said that all of us are reincarnated over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be scorned, and so on . . .  including, naturally, each of us will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men. The thinking was that if you were a woman in a previous life and had just now incarnated as a man you could have homosexual tendencies this time around. Or if you were a woman and your next reincarnation was scheduled to be as a man you might have lesbian tendencies. (And various changes on that theme.) What's neat about the theory is that it recognises that homosexuality is unnatural (most people's initial gut reaction?) but it justifies the orientation as being supernaturally ordained. Nice one! (It's a mirror image of the usual liberal approach that any sexual orientation is natural and so acceptable.) Serious question: now that Bradley/Chelsea has requested the new identity does that mean that liberal outlets like CNN will call her Chelsea while conservative outlets like Fox will call him Bradley in their news coverage? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: I think it was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible explanation from Charlie Lutes: that a person is carrying non physical gender qualities over from a previous life time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche. This Manning chap becomes more embarrassing by the day. From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read: While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from military service. Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
I've got more more respect for Charles Manson than this tiresome arsehole. At least Charlie had the nous to root for himself while this dickhead really believes the 72 virgins crap the Islamists' peddle. (Women will be provided with only one man, and they will be satisfied with him.) Charlie really did have his dick sucked by nubile females! What's wrong with these Muslims? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: He didn't put much of a defense. IMO, his lawyers would appeal the case since Hassan was not capable of defending himself and that he is insane. I'm surprised the judge of this case didn't see this deficiency in Nadal's personality. http://news.yahoo.com/video/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-guilty-182448138.\ html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Thanks for your response. That has given me food for thought. To me, one of the more grotesque features of American life has always been the horrendous treatment of prisoners in the US prison system. It has always astonished me that convicts have not been able to sue the prison authorities for the gross abuse they are subject to: and yes, rape is top of the list. When you think that citizens successfully sue McDonalds for scalding hot coffee and other crap through the courts how prisoners are still subject to such barbaric treatment really saddens me. (And, yes, I know lots of them are complete low-lifes, but it degrades us when we descend to that level.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Because I have a morbid curiosity, I was wondering if it's ever happened that a convict has served time in a men's prison and subsequently been transferred to a women's prison after the necessary gender-reassignment. Why anyone on FFL should know the answer to that one I can't imagine. I can't, but Manning isn't likely to actually get gender- reassignment *treatment* in prison, although her lawyer is planning to sue for it. Here's a video and two articles on the circumstances she faces: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWqaNx8mDBc (interview with a trans friend of Manning) http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/08/22/chelsea_manning_is_now_t\ he_most_famous_transgender_inmate_in_america_all.html (article at Slate by Amanda Hess) http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/22/how-the-policy-might-be\ -changed.html http://tinyurl.com/lcxqlea Excerpt from the Daily Beast piece: How Chelsea Manning Will Test the Military's Transgender Policy ...[The Prison Rape Elimination Act] led to regulations from the federal Department of Justice to determine housing for transgender inmates on a case-by-case basis, taking into account factors like personal preference and safety needs, according to the ACLU, not solely based on their genitals. The act bans protective custody for transgender inmates, along with segregated LGBT housing units, and it requires staff to be trained on how to communicate with and treat transgender inmates, even including the ban of genital searches of transgender inmates just to determine their gender. Those rules, as of June, apply to all correctional facilities that require federal funding. Manning's notoriety and her public revelation about being transgender already put her at serious risk of harassment and/or rape at Leavenworth. No giant leap from there, then to argue that Manning would be best protected by the prison rape act by doing time in a women's facility, [Dru Levasseur, transgender rights project director at Lambda Legal] said
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
I can't believe you just wrote that. Stick around obbajeeba, you're on a learning curve. The mentally ill man who is white . . . They are both, mentally ill. There is no better mental illness. Better mental illness? WTF? Who is white: what's that got to do with it? Mental illness = what doesn't conform to current standards as mediated by the media of the day. The point I'm making is that Manson had real-life experiences while Hassan has retreated to fantasy land. That's always appealing of course. I like to sojourn in fantasy land myself often enough - but it's not what Reality is! Hassan has murdered innocent people because he's been possessed by a demonic obsession. That's the current Muslim world in a nutshell. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: I can't believe you just wrote that. The mentally ill man who is white, from the 60's infamous murder, and a mentally ill man who is muslim who killed, are the same . They are both, mentally ill. There is no better mental illness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: I've got more more respect for Charles Manson than this tiresome arsehole. At least Charlie had the nous to root for himself while this dickhead really believes the 72 virgins crap the Islamists' peddle. (Women will be provided with only one man, and they will be satisfied with him.) Charlie really did have his dick sucked by nubile females! What's wrong with these Muslims? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: He didn't put much of a defense. IMO, his lawyers would appeal the case since Hassan was not capable of defending himself and that he is insane. I'm surprised the judge of this case didn't see this deficiency in Nadal's personality. http://news.yahoo.com/video/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-guilty-182448138.\ \ html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. That says so much. If I was a citizen of your fair land this would be the cause I'd take up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738\ \ .html?pagewanted=all_r=0 8.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 There is a lot of corruption here. The prison industry has a lot of privatization and in some places, the Judges have stakes in those privatized prisons. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for your response. That has given me food for thought. To me, one of the more grotesque features of American life has always been the horrendous treatment of prisoners in the US prison system. It has always astonished me that convicts have not been able to sue the prison authorities for the gross abuse they are subject to: and yes, rape is top of the list. When you think that citizens successfully sue McDonalds for scalding hot coffee and other crap through the courts how prisoners are still subject to such barbaric treatment really saddens me. (And, yes, I know lots of them are complete low-lifes, but it degrades us when we descend to that level.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Because I have a morbid curiosity, I was wondering if it's ever happened that a convict has served time in a men's prison and subsequently been transferred to a women's prison after the necessary gender-reassignment. Why anyone on FFL should know the answer to that one I can't imagine. I can't, but Manning isn't likely to actually get gender- reassignment *treatment* in prison, although her lawyer is planning to sue for it. Here's a video and two articles on the circumstances she faces: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWqaNx8mDBc (interview with a trans friend of Manning) http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/08/22/chelsea_manning_is_now_t\ \ \ he_most_famous_transgender_inmate_in_america_all.html (article at Slate by Amanda Hess) http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/22/how-the-policy-might-be\ \ \ -changed.html http://tinyurl.com/lcxqlea Excerpt from the Daily Beast piece: How Chelsea Manning Will Test the Military's Transgender Policy ...[The Prison Rape Elimination Act] led to regulations from the federal Department of Justice to determine housing for transgender inmates on a case-by-case basis, taking into account factors like personal preference and safety needs, according to the ACLU, not solely based on their genitals. The act bans protective custody for transgender inmates, along with segregated LGBT housing units, and it requires staff to be trained on how to communicate with and treat transgender inmates, even including the ban of genital searches of transgender inmates just to determine their gender. Those rules, as of June, apply to all correctional facilities that require federal funding. Manning's notoriety and her public revelation about being transgender already put her at serious risk of harassment and/or rape at Leavenworth. No giant leap from there, then to argue that Manning would be best protected by the prison rape act by doing time in a women's facility, [Dru Levasseur, transgender rights project director at Lambda Legal] said
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Right, I broke through the 50 barrier without even working up a sweat. Speed limits are for sissy boys and old maids. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
Manson mentally ill? You kidding me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55FHI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55FHI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: I said I can't believe you just wrote that. The mentally ill man who is white, from the 60's infamous murder, and a mentally ill man who is muslim who killed, are the same . They are both, mentally ill. There is no better mental illness. I did not say they were, Better, mental illness. Read above. What is my learning curve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: I can't believe you just wrote that. Stick around obbajeeba, you're on a learning curve. The mentally ill man who is white . . . They are both, mentally ill. There is no better mental illness. Better mental illness? WTF? Who is white: what's that got to do with it? Mental illness = what doesn't conform to current standards as mediated by the media of the day. The point I'm making is that Manson had real-life experiences while Hassan has retreated to fantasy land. That's always appealing of course. I like to sojourn in fantasy land myself often enough - but it's not what Reality is! Hassan has murdered innocent people because he's been possessed by a demonic obsession. That's the current Muslim world in a nutshell. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: I've got more more respect for Charles Manson than this tiresome arsehole. At least Charlie had the nous to root for himself while this dickhead really believes the 72 virgins crap the Islamists' peddle. (Women will be provided with only one man, and they will be satisfied with him.) Charlie really did have his dick sucked by nubile females! What's wrong with these Muslims? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: He didn't put much of a defense. IMO, his lawyers would appeal the case since Hassan was not capable of defending himself and that he is insane. I'm surprised the judge of this case didn't see this deficiency in Nadal's personality. http://news.yahoo.com/video/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-guilty-182448138.\ \ \ html
[FairfieldLife] When the gods of rock mixed with the common people . . .
. . . without even being self-conscious about it http://tinyurl.com/mrmwmfs http://tinyurl.com/mrmwmfs
[FairfieldLife] Re: When the gods of rock mixed with the common people . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: . . . without even being self-conscious about it http://tinyurl.com/mrmwmfs http://tinyurl.com/mrmwmfs For me, the expression on the girl at 00:50 encapsulates what the sixties where really all about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
Well, we aren't in Kansas any more, that's for sure. Of course, he wasn't insane! He was convicted of murder precisely because he was held responsible for his actions - and rightly convicted. Look, the guy was a small-time crook who had the shittiest start in life possible. Bastard son of a teenage prostitute - and it went downhill from there. He tried to make the best of the hand he'd been dealt. I've gotta hand it to the guy - he did have that certain charisma. If you can't see that then tell me why Atkins, Krenwinkel and Van Houten were prepared to fry in the chair for him? Sometimes, the creepiest men can capture the loyalty of people. Remember that Austrian corporal? Me, I love Sharon Tate. Check out this clip. How anyone could butcher someone as beautiful as this is beyond me: http://tinyurl.com/l5ca7e3 http://tinyurl.com/l5ca7e3 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Manson mentally ill? You kidding me? You aren't claiming Manson is sane, are you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55FHI
[FairfieldLife] Re: A terrible beauty is born
That segment showing the young woman having a mushroom-cloud hairdo is revealing. How innocent people could be back then. On the UK version of What's My Line?, where contestants have to guess someone's job, there was one particular show that had a man whose task was loading Polaris missiles onto subs. Talk about bad taste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: I met this woman, M. T. Silva,, Atomic Mom, at a film festival I think 2 years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wezh9saXgo0 Wonderful human she is. What she compiled is significant as a lot mentioned in her film I had not ever heard about and is quite frightening. This was not in the film version I saw at the screening but is interesting too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upc0HGKxevc I am pretty sure she got this documentary on some of the PBS channels last year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: The Partial Test Ban Treaty of 1963 was approved because of concerns about radioactive fallout as a result of nuclear weapons testing in the atmosphere. I remember reading someone - I forget who - who suggested that every ten years or so the representatives of the world's nations at the UN should all be taken to witness for themselves an air-burst nuclear explosion. The idea was that the experience would be so scary that it would concentrate minds on the necessity of limiting the spread of nuclear weapons. I always thought he had a point. Yes, it's true that an H-bomb exploded above ground would cause enough of an increase in background radiation that a handful of people across the world would develop cancer and die who otherwise wouldn't have, but you have to set that against the inevitability that one day a rogue state or terrorist group will explode an atom bomb in a city somewhere causing untold suffering. And there are plenty of experts who argue that such an eventuality really is a near certainty. Because these explosions always had a terrible beauty (Yeats's phrase) about them I always envied those who were able to witness the American test explosions in the Pacific. If those experts are right perhaps one day I'll get to witness such a blast too close for comfort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_9Gi7w19Y
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche. This Manning chap becomes more embarrassing by the day. From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read: While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from military service. Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
I see the Wikipedia entry on Manning has already been updated and refers to Bradley/Chelsea as she. Will the lady now be sent to a woman's prison? What larks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche. This Manning chap becomes more embarrassing by the day. From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read: While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from military service. Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
That was the Theosophists' line. They said that all of us are reincarnated over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men. The thinking was that if you were a woman in a previous life and had just now incarnated as a man you could have homosexual tendencies this time around. Or if you were a woman and your next reincarnation was scheduled to be as a man you might have lesbian tendencies. (And various changes on that theme.) What's neat about the theory is that it recognises that homosexuality is unnatural (most people's initial gut reaction?) but it justifies the orientation as being supernaturally ordained. Nice one! (It's a mirror image of the usual liberal approach that any sexual orientation is natural and so acceptable.) Serious question: now that Bradley/Chelsea has requested the new identity does that mean that liberal outlets like CNN will call her Chelsea while conservative outlets like Fox will call him Bradley in their news coverage? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: I think it was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible explanation from Charlie Lutes: that a person is carrying non physical gender qualities over from a previous life time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche. This Manning chap becomes more embarrassing by the day. From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read: While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from military service. Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work. Not any more. She's been dishonorably discharged. She said she joined the Army to try to overcome her sense that she was a woman. Now that the trial is over and she's out of the Army, she's decided to go for it. FWIW, research is increasingly showing that gender dysphoria has biological causes. It's beginning to look as though a man, say, doesn't want to be a woman because he's screwed up, but is screwed up because he wants to be a woman. It's hard to imagine what it must be like to feel you're in the wrong kind of body and to know that everybody thinks you're someone you know you aren't--and for this to be the case from the time you were a very little kid. That would mess with anyone's mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Love it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: The US military is highly discriminatory. How many blind snipers are there? How many paraplegic Navy SEALS. How many handicapped parking places are marked for tanks?The inhumanity of it!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Re Feste 37: CNN is a liberal outlet? Surely you jest. Now, MSNBC, there's a liberal outlet. : I confess my ignorance of US news organisations. But a Google confirms your view of MSNBC. The one I always hear complained about is Fox for being right-wing. Isn't CNN Ted Turner's outfit? And isn't he a classic liberal? He was married to Hanoi Jane! He dubbed opponents of abortion bozos. What do you want him to do: enter into a gay marriage?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
An excellent summary from Sam Harris. Thanks. What I like about Sam is that he modifies his views on the basis of evidence. For example, on a follow-up link on the article you posted he discusses psychedelics and says : Unfortunately, Huxley was operating under the erroneous assumption that psychedelics decrease brain activity. However, modern techniques of neuro-imaging have shown that these drugs tend to increase activity in many regions of the cortex (and in subcortical structures as well). Then he's added a later note: [Note 1/24/12: a recent study on psilocybin actually lends some support to Huxley's view.SH] Lord! How I wish that more people could be as open and honest as Harris. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Not true Dr. Sam Harris, a neuroscientist discusses some of this: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/whats-the-point-of-transcendence
[FairfieldLife] Got a job interview coming up?
You might thank me for this one day. Power poses that will boost your career:http://tinyurl.com/l4ouapm http://tinyurl.com/l4ouapm
[FairfieldLife] Google? There is an alternative . . .
Yahoo websites attracted more US visitors than Google in July, according to the most recent internet traffic numbers. A victory for Google's first female engineer, Marissa Mayer, who left Google to become CEO of Yahoo. Google are becoming a bit creepy and nosy-parkerish aren't they?
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
I'm seriously impressed. In future, when the neighbours upstairs start hoovering while I'm meditating I shall know to grin and bear it. Sounds like you were on duty though: snoozing on the job could get you the Bradley Manning treatment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: A quieter place is a more restful place, so sure, but that doesn't mean you can't meditate in some pretty noisy places. I've meditated in places where literally, had I not been wearing earplugs, my hearing would have been permanently damaged or even destroyed (if an F-111 is so close to you that the backwash from its engine knocks your army helmet off your head and 30 feet through the air before it hits the ground, you're too damn close the F-111 -fortunately I was wearing full chemical warfare gear and barely felt the heat the the tunic or smelled the exhaust through the gas-mask... just a faint whiff of fuel was all).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Warning: adult content! I see that Hefner-link TV show was sponsored by TWA. It reminds me of that gag we all knew but can no longer use since Trans World Airlines went belly-up in 2001:- A TWA stewardess attending to a male passenger asks, Would you like to try our TWA coffee? No thanks, the male passenger responds, but I'd sure like to have some of your TWA tea (i.e., T-W-A-T). (The dirty joke has been known since 1941!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Some years back I was travelling across the US by plane and forgot that your country is so damned big it has different time zones. I nearly missed my flight to New Orleans but realised at the last moment my mistake and rushed to the departure gate. The attendant told me sorry, but I'd have to take a later flight. Fortunately, after a phone call, I was allowed onto the waiting plane - cue lots of very dirty looks from the rest of the irritated waiting passengers on board. What amazed me even then was that they would have let the plane take off without me but with my luggage which, of course, could have contained a bomb. That would have been a no-no on a European flight. Bet they've sharpened up their act since then. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: LOL - After missing a flight to somewhere, my family always referred to them as Take-off Without Announcing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Warning: adult content! I see that Hefner-link TV show was sponsored by TWA. It reminds me of that gag we all knew but can no longer use since Trans World Airlines went belly-up in 2001:- A TWA stewardess attending to a male passenger asks, Would you like to try our TWA coffee? No thanks, the male passenger responds, but I'd sure like to have some of your TWA tea (i.e., T-W-A-T). (The dirty joke has been known since 1941!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. Re top-end psychedelics: yes, it's not a good idea to fry your brains once a week but having your third eye opened once or twice in your life has to got to be worth the gamble. Imagine if Sir Galahad, when he set off to find the the Holy Grail, had been told by someone the quest could be very dangerous and he'd said, Oh well, in that case, I'll turn back would we still be celebrating the guy? I'll wager taking LSD is far more enlightening than taking the Adderall and Ritalin that your teens are all prescribed for ADHD (which they all claim to have - do me a fucking favour!). See Bill Maher's rant on this topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAZ_7nBHS8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAZ_7nBHS8 I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? Of course he did - and wrote some cracking songs as a result. See: http://tinyurl.com/mytsvpw http://tinyurl.com/mytsvpw
[FairfieldLife] A terrible beauty is born
The Partial Test Ban Treaty of 1963 was approved because of concerns about radioactive fallout as a result of nuclear weapons testing in the atmosphere. I remember reading someone - I forget who - who suggested that every ten years or so the representatives of the world's nations at the UN should all be taken to witness for themselves an air-burst nuclear explosion. The idea was that the experience would be so scary that it would concentrate minds on the necessity of limiting the spread of nuclear weapons. I always thought he had a point. Yes, it's true that an H-bomb exploded above ground would cause enough of an increase in background radiation that a handful of people across the world would develop cancer and die who otherwise wouldn't have, but you have to set that against the inevitability that one day a rogue state or terrorist group will explode an atom bomb in a city somewhere causing untold suffering. And there are plenty of experts who argue that such an eventuality really is a near certainty. Because these explosions always had a terrible beauty (Yeats's phrase) about them I always envied those who were able to witness the American test explosions in the Pacific. If those experts are right perhaps one day I'll get to witness such a blast too close for comfort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_9Gi7w19Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_9Gi7w19Y
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Do you think those psychedelic drugs really open the third eye? I am not sure if I buy that claim. I do know, if one goes off the beaten track (the track society has formed you to) and take some days or months to clear your head from repetitive social trainings and expectations, one can achieve a higher awareness and start to find solutions to one's own problems, and no drugs or alcohol are needed. Yes, they open the third eye. In fact, wasn't out benefactor Rick Archer first turned on by LSD? For sure, for many people psychedelics were never more than party drugs - pearls before swine, I say. I claim that anyone of intelligence or sensitivity who takes a dose of Albert Hoffman's potion will have an enlightening experience - of course it might be a trip to hell, but heaven and hell are both part of God's economy. The trouble is, talk about LSD has been hijacked by talk about the rock gods and hippies of the sixties; it's much more rewarding reading about the first-hand accounts of serious seekers like John Blofeld, Alan Watts, Ernst Junger, Aldous Huxley, Arthur Koestler . . . the list goes on and on. You'll notice that the people I've just mentioned were all in middle age and successful before they took the drug. The crash came when teens and immature kids started dishing the stuff out like candy. Incredibly irresponsible and casualties were inevitable. And yes, you're right that it's better not to have to rely on drugs. But it was the psychedelic sixties that opened the door for Maharishi to introduce TM so let's give credit where credit's due. Nice song. Pictures of blond girls with their mouths open are always hilarious (personal joke). The girl in the Donovan clip is of course Sue Lyon who was his girlfriend. Donovan spiked her drink with LSD at a party and she had a classic bummer. Totally irresponsible thing for Donovan to have done.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Well, with you guys claiming the entire GM frickin' T, we had to make up for it somehow, and Voila! Time Zones, to show the Brits Just How Big We Are.:-) Yeah, that was a neat one - and it really pissed off the French! The reason was that in the 19th century the British Navy ruled the oceans and so the Admiralty produced the best charts to navigate by using Greenwich as the zero marker. As everyone else wanted the most accurate data Greenwich Mean Time was adopted by other nation's ships long before it was officially recognised by treaty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Agreed. But remember that the sixties were the apogee of scientific materialism - the decade that Richard Dawkins has wet dreams about to this day. Christ, even the theologians in that decade were talking about the death of God! The novels were either kitchen-sink realism about how hard it was being working class, or twee tales of upper-middle-class life. The dominant philosophy was the sterile dead-end of language analysis. A materialist age needs a material solution to wake it up. Isn't it ironic that LSD was synthesised in a Swiss pharmaceutical company - the very image of boring respectability. God has a sense of humour. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then so we no longer need the chemical boost - meditation is taking off everywhere. (Well, maybe Dawkins could benefit from a magic mushroom session . . . ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Sure, psychedelics open the third eye, like throwing a stick of dynamite at it. Very harsh, and unpredictable - never really enjoyed LSD hangovers much, either, to say the least. Personally, I prefer to come by it naturally. That way, whatever is noticed, is sustained and integrated. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Do you think those psychedelic drugs really open the third eye? I am not sure if I buy that claim. I do know, if one goes off the beaten track (the track society has formed you to) and take some days or months to clear your head from repetitive social trainings and expectations, one can achieve a higher awareness and start to find solutions to one's own problems, and no drugs or alcohol are needed. Yes, they open the third eye. In fact, wasn't out benefactor Rick Archer first turned on by LSD? For sure, for many people psychedelics were never more than party drugs - pearls before swine, I say. I claim that anyone of intelligence or sensitivity who takes a dose of Albert Hoffman's potion will have an enlightening experience - of course it might be a trip to hell, but heaven and hell are both part of God's economy. The trouble is, talk about LSD has been hijacked by talk about the rock gods and hippies of the sixties; it's much more rewarding reading about the first-hand accounts of serious seekers like John Blofeld, Alan Watts, Ernst Junger, Aldous Huxley, Arthur Koestler . . . the list goes on and on. You'll notice that the people I've just mentioned were all in middle age and successful before they took the drug. The crash came when teens and immature kids started dishing the stuff out like candy. Incredibly irresponsible and casualties were inevitable. And yes, you're right that it's better not to have to rely on drugs. But it was the psychedelic sixties that opened the door for Maharishi to introduce TM so let's give credit where credit's due. Nice song. Pictures of blond girls with their mouths open are always hilarious (personal joke). The girl in the Donovan clip is of course Sue Lyon who was his girlfriend. Donovan spiked her drink with LSD at a party and she had a classic bummer. Totally irresponsible thing for Donovan to have done.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Re Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is : I see what you're getting at but given a choice I'm claiming that 100 percent of people meditating would choose a quiet place and not a noisy one. There's got to be some advantage surely? I think one of the most distracting things is other people talking nearby as then I can get drawn into following their conversation. If a group sitting next to you were talking about sparaig's sex life would you be able to effortlessly return to the mantra? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: Me thinks that you needed to get checked. Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is, not because you can somehow handle the noise in some elegantly spiritual fashion. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Yes, that's what I was referring to. If a large multinational corporation were to hold a meeting overseas and people were being escorted to the airport to be shipped back to the States with assorted psychosomatic disorders it would qualify as a scandal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: why was it scandal racked? I thought its main claim to fame was all the heavy unstressing that went on there. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: If youâre not having fun, youâre not doing it rightâ
Agreed - great photo. Mind you: If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right sounds like a good description of correct TM practice also. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I read his earlier books when I would find them in used book stores.  Loved them.  This link has a marvelous picture of him. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/21/books/elmore-leonard-master-of-crime-f\ iction-dies-at-87.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 What a great face. I would really have to re-evaluate what I had just said if he looked at me like that after saying it! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] If youâre not having fun, youâre not doing it rightâ  That's a quote by one of the great writers of our time, asked once to comment on writing. It's as terse as much of his other writing, and as right on. It is IMO high wisdom, the very *essence* of great writing. Elmore Leonard was a true craftsman, an artist who, like Raymond Chandler before him, changed the world forever with his writing, and all while staying within genres that the intelligentsia never really considered writing. You know his dialogue even if you've never read a single one of his books, from the many movies and TV shows based on the books (like Justified, Out Of Sight, Be Cool, Get Shorty, Killshot, 3:10 To Yuma, or Jackie Brown), and from the thousands of others that tried to emulate his style, and failed. He will be missed. http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130820/ENT09/308200051/American-nov\ elist-Elmore-Leonard-has-died
[FairfieldLife] Re: If youâre not having fun, youâre not doing it rightâ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: I like his tip, If it sounds like writing, re-write it. Hear that Turq? :) It's a good tip for fellow writers of hard-boiled crime fiction. But there's also a place in the ever-expanding universe of literature for some purple prose, aestheticism and artifice.
[FairfieldLife] Your worst nightmares could be about to come true
I made the mistake recently of causing a brouhaha on FFL after linking to a Mark Steyn article about the Zimmerman case. Let's please not re-visit that one! But it amused me to see that a petition has been launched to have Steyn run for Senator in New Hampshire. So, does this mean that outspoken Canadian conservatives could be running the US of A in the near future? If that sounds like a cool idea you might want to sign on here: http://steynforsenate.com/ http://steynforsenate.com/ If the thought is giving you indigestion you might want to join Democrat Jeanne Shaheen's support group. I don't understand the legalities of this one. I know he lives in New Hampshire but I hadn't realised that non-US citizens could run for political office. If I moved to the States could I run for President?
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
ROFLMAO Well, allowing myself a quiet smirk anyway - nice one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Bet he sneaks a *brownie* now and then for *arthritis.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) Then there are famous people who haven't done TM you always thought had: I knew that Ray Manzarek (R.I.P.) met Densmore and Krieger at a transcendental meditation class - and the three of them used to practise TM in the sound-proof booths at recording studios to get the benefit of that authentic Himalayan silence - so I'd always assumed that Jim Morrison tried TM also. Turns out he never followed up on that introductory lecture. Bummer. I'm surprised he didn't take the plunge - he was game for just about everything else going. The bubble chart didn't work its magic this time.
[FairfieldLife] Maybe Maharishi should have given swimming lessons?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfyCeVdbHw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfyCeVdbHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
At rounding courses in the 1970s when we were shown videotapes of Maharishi there were often long pauses after a question was asked - and I mean really long pauses - before Maharishi came up with an answer. I used to feel the tension rising and sometimes said to myself: Christ! He's not going to be able to answer this one! Those clunky 70s video machines were pretty temperamental also. They must have been the first widely available to Joe Public. I had a rich (tax-avoidance specialist) brother-in-law who had one as a prized possession but for most people they would have been too pricey. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: It might be the case. I always thought MMY was pretty good at stringing sentences together, at least in short bursts:
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe Maharishi should have given swimming lessons?
No, I was taking the piss also. Ie, maybe Marshy should have taught her a swimming sidhi to make the spectacle more exciting. At least the old dear isn't doing anything disgusting like many of these Indian fakirs do that just turn my stomach. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Honestly, I can do that for a very long time too and without the little cushy pillow added to her behind. I can show you in a regular 2 piece un-pillowed polyester bathing suit. My hands and feet above the water even more than that, and not even using salt water like the Great Salt Lake or the salted oceans and gulfs. A regular swimming pool. What is so special about that? LOL I am not making fun of her, just saying, that I can do and most likely more. I am telling the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfyCeVdbHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe Maharishi should have given swimming lessons?
Taking the piss : British slang meaning to appear serious but actually poking fun at something. Re Ann's comment: I'm confused. What is this video showing? Anyone can float in water or am I missing something? : you're not missing anything dear - the fact that an old lady floating in a pool can attract devotees shows how gullible spiritual seekers can be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Is piss one of those British terms that means something else on the other side of the pond? Ie; fag, tolet, dollups? :) I enjoyed watching her float. She may be described in this here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKXEpmalbUI If you can handle the tone, demeanor, and speed it is being projected from. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: No, I was taking the piss also. Ie, maybe Marshy should have taught her a swimming sidhi to make the spectacle more exciting. At least the old dear isn't doing anything disgusting like many of these Indian fakirs do that just turn my stomach. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Honestly, I can do that for a very long time too and without the little cushy pillow added to her behind. I can show you in a regular 2 piece un-pillowed polyester bathing suit. My hands and feet above the water even more than that, and not even using salt water like the Great Salt Lake or the salted oceans and gulfs. A regular swimming pool. What is so special about that? LOL I am not making fun of her, just saying, that I can do and most likely more. I am telling the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfyCeVdbHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Re Wouldn't bother me today: not sure if I should envy you or not. Don't our nervous systems automatically kick-in with the hackneyed fight-or-flight response when unexpected loud noises alert us to potential danger? Maybe your house will catch fire one day and you'll perish while dipping into the Absolute in a state of pure indifference . . . Way to go. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Those explosions in Majorca drove me up a wall back then. Wouldn't bother me today. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe Maharishi should have given swimming lessons?
Those senses for piss you list are also used here: getting pissed = on a drinking binge.I'm pissed = I'm mad or angry, but maybe I'm fed up is the more common usage.Piss off = go get lost is a useful expression.piece of piss = dead easy . . . the list goes on and on. Funny how essential these scatalogical words are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Ha. Poking piss. ha. Is that different than getting pissed? (Drunk) Here on the other side of the pond, pissed means one is really really mad or angry at someone or something. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Taking the piss : British slang meaning to appear serious but actually poking fun at something. Re Ann's comment: I'm confused. What is this video showing? Anyone can float in water or am I missing something? : you're not missing anything dear - the fact that an old lady floating in a pool can attract devotees shows how gullible spiritual seekers can be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Is piss one of those British terms that means something else on the other side of the pond? Ie; fag, tolet, dollups? :) I enjoyed watching her float. She may be described in this here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKXEpmalbUI If you can handle the tone, demeanor, and speed it is being projected from. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: No, I was taking the piss also. Ie, maybe Marshy should have taught her a swimming sidhi to make the spectacle more exciting. At least the old dear isn't doing anything disgusting like many of these Indian fakirs do that just turn my stomach. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Honestly, I can do that for a very long time too and without the little cushy pillow added to her behind. I can show you in a regular 2 piece un-pillowed polyester bathing suit. My hands and feet above the water even more than that, and not even using salt water like the Great Salt Lake or the salted oceans and gulfs. A regular swimming pool. What is so special about that? LOL I am not making fun of her, just saying, that I can do and most likely more. I am telling the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mfyCeVdbHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: British police examining new info on death of Princess Diana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Can't have a British Princess dating a Muslim or marrying him. There's also the constitutional point that the sovereign is Head of the Church of England. If a princess married a Muslim/Hindu/Jew/. . . would their children be brought up as Anglicans? The issue only arises, of course, because there's an Established Church; if there were to be a separation of Church and State it wouldn't matter. They've only just recently changed the law so that a Royal can marry a Catholic though that could have tricky consequences too. Now that they've legalised gay marriage some wags are asking what would happen to the succession if a king were to marry another man.
[FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
. . . and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten http://www.youtube.com/user/weskitten 1 year ago http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=gsQgntYKwHvtGMYeULYgvxaAoVtWCh7duyyo0\ dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curry conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  . . .  and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Googling about my own post to get some background info I came across this quote from Anita Pallenberg: The Maharishi was a dyke from Yorkshire. I mean, I'm from Yorkshire! But I haven't got a clue what the German groupie is on about. Can anyone enlighten me? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curry conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  . . .  and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: paul and ringo promote TM cause Lynch has prevailed upon them to do so - I wonder if they actually do it? It's not as if Paul and Ringo are star-struck teenagers - and it's not as if they need the attention. I'm sure they still do it (if with the occasional break) as also do Donovan and Mike Love. But, yeah, Keith Richards you've got to worry about . . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Anyway, some people should just forget about meditation and stick to the drugs. This is the Stones at their best with Jagger wearing what looks like a Tibetan lama's cap (a nod to Tim Leary's Psychedelic Experience?) playing the role of shaman. Pure rock theatre. http://tinyurl.com/kvwux8f http://tinyurl.com/kvwux8f --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: paul and ringo promote TM cause Lynch has prevailed upon them to do so - I wonder if they actually do it? It's not as if Paul and Ringo are star-struck teenagers - and it's not as if they need the attention. I'm sure they still do it (if with the occasional break) as also do Donovan and Mike Love. But, yeah, Keith Richards you've got to worry about . . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: How many here are in WC? Show of hands...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: I always thought that 'WC' meant 'Water Closet'. When I saw the topic heading I really thought that the question would be about how many people take a laptop with them to the bathroom when they anticipate a long sitting session. (Yes, that's sitting I typed there.) Probably quite a few judging from how many people one hears having conversations on their cell phones while in public cubicles - so disrespectful don't you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How many here are in WC? Show of hands...
I've been tempted to bang on the door of an offending cubicle and say in a loud voice, Can you hurry up in there, I'm desperate for a crap. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Seraphita, forget disrespectful! What about enlivening the prana vaya so that the apana vayu can't do its job?! From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How many here are in WC? Show of hands... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: I always thought that 'WC' meant 'Water Closet'. When I saw the topic heading I really thought that the question would be about how many people take a laptop with them to the bathroom when they anticipate a long sitting session. (Yes, that's sitting I typed there.) Probably quite a few judging from how many people one hears having conversations on their cell phones while in public cubicles - so disrespectful don't you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Biological Immortality
Extraordinary. I wonder if those with the condition - growing older very very slowly - could live on well into their second century.Perhaps we could use them on the first manned mission to Mars. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: This is not exactly what MMY was thinking of. But someone will eventually find the fountain of youth soon. http://gma.yahoo.com/8-old-11-pounds-never-ages-040317717--abc-news-heal\ th.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I don't like the insto-get-out clause that magic gives you. Sorry. It's a pet peeve. It's a pet peeve of mine also. The only fantasy that appeals is the dark stuff - like Lovecraft's nightmares. There are no get-out-of-jail-free clauses in Lovecraft's world; everyone comes to a sticky end. Reality has hard edges; sometimes very hard and very sharp. That's what keeps our senses keen. My fave TV series has been The Borgias with Jeremy Irons and co. Sean Harris is scarily convincing as the assassin Micheletto. You get all the colourful costumes and characters of a fantasy but the story is rooted in historical reality so you get that extra frisson of excitement. I see on the website for the series you can buy an authentic replica of Micheletto's dagger. You could actually do some mischief with that in the real world; Harry Potter's wand would be a useless piece of crap.
[FairfieldLife] Area 51 is officially acknowledged
The existence of Area 51, the US airbase rumoured to house UFOs, along with details of some of the strange activities that went on there have been officially acknowledged in newly released CIA documents. I wonder if they ever evaluated the TM-Sidhi program's usefulness for clandestine warfare.http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB434/ http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB434/
[FairfieldLife] British police examining new info on death of Princess Diana
Scotland Yard has launched an investigation into new claims that Diana, Princess of Wales, was murdered by a member of the British military. Perhaps Diana, the new biopic starring Naomi Watts due to hit our screens, needs a revised ending. http://tinyurl.com/lbskpzd http://tinyurl.com/lbskpzd
[FairfieldLife] English eccentricity at its best
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-very-british-witchcraft/4od http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-very-british-witchcraft/4od A Channel 4 programme you can watch for free (follow the link) traces the extraordinary story of Britain's fastest-growing religious group - the modern pagan witchcraft of Wicca - and of its creator, an eccentric Englishman called Gerald Gardner. This should amuse some of the more broad-minded FFLifers.
[FairfieldLife] FFL CLassified Ads [was Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC]
Mail-Order Mysteries: Real Stuff from Old Comic Book Ads! Doc, you might want to check out this book. Click the link, then click on the Look Inside option and scroll down. This is a real Aladdin's cave of the sort of tacky products that fired the imaginations of impressionable kids back in the day. It also shows the reality of what gullible buyers actually ended up with. I'm going to have to order a copy! http://www.amazon.com/Mail-Order-Mysteries-Real-Stuff-Comic/dp/160887026\ X http://www.amazon.com/Mail-Order-Mysteries-Real-Stuff-Comic/dp/16088702\ 6X --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I always wanted the Sea Monkeys, or the X-Ray glasses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: British police examining new info on death of Princess Diana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Not to be picky, but the article says the soldier, who was a member of the SAS, told his wife that the unit had 'arranged' the Princess's death and that this had been 'covered up.' Why on earth would the SAS have wanted to murder Diana? It's dirty work but someone has to do it. Diana was snorting coke, sleeping around with whoever took her fancy and generally bringing the Royal Family into disrepute. She wasn't able to fulfil her allotted role - a role for which she was a willing volunteer remember. Kate Middleton looks like the right stuff to me. No neuroses, feet firmly on the ground, realistic in her outlook - and more attractive, sexually and personally.
[FairfieldLife] Re: British police examining new info on death of Princess Diana
Fergie! Don't get me started! When you think of the virtually unlimited choice a true-blue royal has over a life partner they sure do pick 'em. About Diana, there's also the ticklish aspect that she was sleeping with Arabs and Indians. We are talking about the succession to the Throne here and there were rumours she was pregnant when she died. One has to wonder if there was an unpleasant racist element to the irritation she sparked in the Establishment of the day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: It's dirty work but someone has to do it. Diana was snorting coke, sleeping around with whoever took her fancy and generally bringing the Royal Family into disrepute. If they killed Diana for that then should have hung, drawn and quartered Fergie (the Duchess of York). I don't buy it. Diana wasn't important enough to kill. Look at the behaviour of the English monarchy over the last 900 years and she was the least of their problems.
[FairfieldLife] Re: British police examining new info on death of Princess Diana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Can't have a British Princess dating a Muslim or marrying him. How would that look with all these wars against Al toilet? Funnily enough, Prince Charles has just recently revealed he's been having Arabic lessons for the past six months so he can read the Koran. Perhaps he's trying to understand what drew Diana to Hasnat Khan and Dodi Fayed!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The NDE plot thickens?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: You'll find out when you croak. According to the enthusiasts for reincarnation you've already croaked lots of times. The trouble is you forgot your previous traumatic deaths each time you were re-born. That's the theory anyway. We'll all get the chance to sit the practical examination in the not-too-distant future.
[FairfieldLife] Cottingley Fairies
http://tinyurl.com/n2bjj7n http://tinyurl.com/n2bjj7n Amusing web page with photos and a couple of video clips discussing the famous 1917 hoax in which Arthur Conan Doyle was duped into believing he had photographic evidence of the existence of fairies. What makes the hoax so charming is that it was carried out by two young Yorkshire girls, Elsie Wright and her cousin Frances Griffiths. Although they later admitted the pics were faked they maintained that they had in fact seen real fairies and the faked-photos were their way of defending themselves against ridicule. Think what they could have done with CGI . . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] FFL CLassified Ads [was Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC]
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[FairfieldLife] FFL CLassified Ads [was Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC]
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[FairfieldLife] FFL CLassified Ads [was Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Thanks for that response. PSM sounds intriguing. There are so many techniques to choose from these days. Once upon a time TM was the only game in town - if your home town was in the north of England at any rate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Hmm good question Seraphita. Dunno what the Movement did with PST after Deepak left. I know they had various Indian healers come round and do some expensive healing stuff, cost was based on what kind of healing you wanted. Had some TM friends who did it, cost them about $1400.00, per person. The lady would walk around them and blow her breath on them, and intone some kind of mantra from time to time, sometimes it was just a shout, but that was a different thing than the PST I think. As to my experience with Primordial Sound meditation. When I was initiated, the teachers don't do puja, they chant some sanskrit lines. I sat there in front of the teacher and as soon as she started chanting, I felt this rather pleasant and powerful energy right over the top of my head. As she chanted the energy built and built, becoming stronger and stronger and it seemed to be swirling around in circle from top to bottom like a ferris wheel - I was kind of surprised and wondered what was gonna happen but sat there and as soon as she finished the chant, she leaned in and whispered the mantra - instantly I felt all that energy whoosh down into my crown and go all the way to my feet. Per instruction I closed my eyes and began to repeat the mantra, and all I can say is that what I experienced was the feeling of energy that felt like it was the very essence of who I am. I had never felt anything like that in my life. For about two or three months every time I meditated with the Primordial Sound mantra it felt the same way, same energy, same essence of me. After that two or three month period that stopped and meditation was just meditation. The difference between the two, TM and PSM for me is this: TM always felt like I was sinking into the Absolute, and PSM feels like I am waking up or enlivening the Absolute within me. So that's my take on it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Thu 15-Aug-13 00:15:08 UTC
That's better - now we're talking! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/10/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 1105 messages as of (UTC) 08/15/13 00:08:38 146 Share Long 134 authfriend 118 doctordumbass 88 obbajeeba 76 RoryGoff 69 Ravi Chivukula 61 Ann
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: Well, he re-wrote _Quantum Healing_, which was originally about the Primordial Sound Technique, which has nothing to do with Primordial Sound Meditation, to make it all about the latter. Is the Primordial Sound Technique basically TM with a new (and longer) mantra? And how does it differ from Primordial Sound Meditation (apart from being a lot more expensive, I guess)? The only Chopra book I've read was Synchrodestiny which although being unobjectionable struck me as pretty bland. Can anyone recommend a Chopra title that they found helpful?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Thanks Michael. Re not an internally used mantra: a bit like japa maybe? Was the Primordial Sound Technique ditched by the TMO when Chopra bailed out or is it still available as an advanced technique? I found my TM induction a heck of an initiation! As in, quite dramatic body twitchings and that sense of falling down the rabbit hole like Alice. For you, was your PSM initiation back in '96 even more of a wake-up call than your first TM session? One thing I like about my original seed mantra (which I have stayed faithful to) is that I'm happy to let it mutate during a session and have been intrigued by claims that all these bija syllables eventually turn into Aum if allowed to follow their natural course. I always think that if I had to repeat a three-part mantra (with more than three syllables of course) I'd be concentrating too much on remembering the sequence correctly to be able to enter a state of restful alertness -whereas a one- or two-syllable mantra is perfect for Seraphita's tiny mind! On the topic of his books, I'm tempted to buy War of the Worldviews as I enjoy argy-bargy and I respect Chopra for having the balls to engage in open debate with a full-on materialist. Anyone read that and would recommend it? . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: The original Primordial Sound Technique was a TM thing that Chopra gave out, having the person intone a certain sound. It was not an internally used mantra. The Primordial Sound Meditation that Chopra came up with is a mantra meditation. The mantras are chosen according to your birthday and time. I got my PSM mantra back in 1996 - it was a heck of an initiation. The PSM mantras are all three part mantras, the first is Om, the second part is the one determined by your birthday and time info, and the third part is Namah, so Om (Private mantra) Namah. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: Well, he re-wrote _Quantum Healing_, which was originally about the Primordial Sound Technique, which has nothing to do with Primordial Sound Meditation, to make it all about the latter. Is the  Primordial Sound Technique basically TM with a new (and longer) mantra? And how does it differ from Primordial Sound Meditation (apart from being a lot more expensive, I guess)?  The only Chopra book I've read was Synchrodestiny which although being unobjectionable struck me as pretty bland. Can anyone recommend a Chopra title that they found helpful?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: If you're interested in the debate with materialists, you could do a lot better than Chopra. He's not what I would call a rigorous thinker. You might try Thomas Nagel's Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False. Nagel got in a lot of trouble with the big-time materialists; the book really upset them, so he must have hit close to the bone. Yes, Nagel's book is already on my to-read list as I've been amused by the way atheist philosophers and neo-Darwinian scientists have closed ranks to denounce his heresy. It's curious that so many people have a strong emotional attachment to whatever the current orthodoxy is. My vice is the exact opposite - I only enjoy reading people who shake the foundations - whether they are right or wrong I find that approach is invariably more entertaining. (Of course one has to draw the line somewhere: I need my heretics to make a good case and not simply spout wild theories like David Icke, for example.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Check out this extremely thoughtful one-star review of War of the Worldviews on Amazon before you buy the book: http://tinyurl.com/knjgg73 Thanks! Excellent review as you say.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Clarify
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: The trick is indeed the appropriate mantra. You wouldn't want to give someone who is vata the beej mantra Hoom because it would just make them even more vata. Didn't Maharishi give everyone the same mantra (supposedly Ram) when he first started? And when he decided to add more syllables then they were allocated on the basis of sex and age (according to various sites around the web) so whether or not someone was a vata-type didn't come into the equation.
