[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'
It is because Purusha has gone to Holland. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the U.S. Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'? Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back in this form? Could be...? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm/ Unstressing Pain Body Eckart Tolle' No unstressing on HollandInvinc Cou
A participant from the current Holland Invicibility Course says they are doing 10hrs a day programme and there is no unstressing. ..a thing of the past --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eckart Tolle has commented on the 'Pain Body' on what Maharishi calls 'Unstressing'. The pain body, is simply what you are holding in your phisiology, body mind emotional body...which keeps blocking the full sunshine, from shinig through. He says the 'pain body' is what holds you back from your enlightenment. He claims that the pain body is actually part and parcel the stucture of the ego; 'A Course in Miracles' uses the same analogy, that the ego, and it's various forms is what blocks the light of Being from shining through completely. Anyway, Eckart seems to think, that the so-called pain body; Likes to re-enforce itself; with what Maharishi would call unstressing. In other words, when you are feeling over-shadowed by some emotion or some overwheming physical symptom, or anything that you feel uncomfortable about- that is the perception of your pain body, being felt(Maharishi also, used the term Sleeping Elephants) Anyway, by continueing to meditate and 'witness' this pain body; It eventually brings the awareness to whatever needs to be healed and released; So, he says, when someone pushes you button, and you feel like attacking back; this will only serve to embolden the old pattern held in the pain body; And the only real way to heal the pain body- is to not react- just watch how this pain body is manifesting and don't react. Just witness-just watch, and this helps it to be released. There's an instruction for checking which say: When there is an overwhelming feeling or physical sensation in the body which makes it hard to think the mantra; Than back off the mantra, and just let the awareness be with the sensation, and this will help to release it: then return to the mantra, when it is comfortable to do so. So, in essence, just by allowing the awareness to be with the part of the body or emotion, witnessing it, helps it to heal and be released. According to Eckart, when all of the pain body is healed, enlightenment dawns. He also suggests, that countries and cultures, also have Pain Bodies. And that you can feel it when you get off a plane, say in Germany; Where it feels, 'much heavier' , than in the United States... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: For those of you who think that there is more crime in the U.S. than Canada
The rate for any kind of violent crime is a small fraction of that of the USA. That would be what is relevant to the context of the film. It is certainly what is a priority to me or most Canadians, to prevent murders or aggravated assaults. It may be easier to steal something that isn't so carefully locked up or if you aren't likely to get shot doing it. So there may be slightly more Be or car thefts, and people are not getting killed in the commission of those crimes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine he made a big deal of how crime in Canada is much lower than in the U.S. I think you may be interested in the following. The following stats are from: http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm Although crime stats for certain categories are much higher in the States than Canada, I think you may be surprised to see that in several categories crime is higher in Canada than in the U.S. Plus, if you factor in the estimated 15 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. -- which doesn't show up in census data for populations and is probably NOT included in the population figures here -- then the rates are in fact LOWER for the U.S. than shown here. And, by the way, these stats are presented by the Government of Canada, not some right-wing American source. Crime rate comparisons between Canada and the United States 2000 Canada United StatesReal terms Rate(1) Real terms Rate(1) Homicide 542 1.8 15,517 5.5 Aggravated assault(2) 43,933 143 910,744 324 Robbery 27,012 88 407,842 145 Break and enter 293,416 954 2,049,946 728 Motor vehicle theft 160,268 521 1,165,559 414 Other theft 683,997 2,224 6,965,957 2,475 Arson 13,724 45 78,280 321 Rates are per 100,000 population. 2 For comparison purposes, the Canadian category of aggravated assault includes attempted murder, assault with a weapon and aggravated assault. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 snip Any meditation technique that relies on a object of meditation, a mantra, the breath, etc. will by it's very nature have some subtle effort (as Mahesh acknowledged at Estes Park in regard to TM).* Of course, it's never been established that what he said at Estes Park ever acknowledged any such thing. I'm not sure exactly what the Estes Park quote is, but Maharishi was quite clear that there is some doing in the thinking/picking up of the mantra and that, yes, this is a contradictory to the mantra just appearing on its own. That's why the the instruction to think or pick up the mantra is qualified by saying effortlessy or as effortessly as a thought comes. Of course one is thinking and of course thinking is doing. It may be an effortless doing, but it's a doing. While it may not be fair to dismiss TM as being a technique of effort on account of that, vaj is, IMO, not incorrect in calling it subtle effort becaue of that doing. To misunderstand this puts one in the position of a meditator I once encountered who asked What happens if you sit there for the entire 20 minutes and the mantra doesn't come? Duh. I would swear that I saw a tape in which somebody asked MMY that very thing and he said something to the effect of, well, then that's just the way it is, there's nothing to be done. (Though every teacher or checker I later told that to said he couldn't have said that.) I think the person's mantra wasn't coming without an amount of effort that seemed to be too much. I've used to have that problem myself a lot, and I would end up sometimes sitting there for most of 20 minutes without, it seemed, even a glimmer of a mantra. Also, it seems to me that the contradictory nature of the meditation Exactly, it is a paradox. Like a koan. is an essential element of it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] the moon nakshatra and naming
since it has come up twice recently, if anyone wants to find out about this all details can be found in William R Levacy's Beneath a Vedic Sky a good book about jyotish. He was an initiator. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doomsday Message From Raja John Konhaus today
Jupiter and Saturn are changing signs soon. There will be a lot of change of fortune for many people as they are both happening about the same time. I have seen Jyotishi discussion that if the USA ascendant is in fact Cancer rather than Scorpio as some believe, then it is not good for the USA, which is really not on a solid footing economically so is really vulnerable to a down-turn. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come without hesitation. Just Come. Soon. Maharishi feels we need 2000 here very soon, or we will only have 1/2 invincibility and I don't think we want to see what that will mean. John Konhause Raja of California From the Guru Papers by Kramer: A time inevitably comes when the popularity and power of the group plateaus and then begins to wane. Eventually it becomes obvious that the guru is not going to take over the world, at least not in the immediate future. When the realization comes that humanity is too stupid or blind to acknowledge that higher authority and wisdom of the guru, the apocalyptic phase enters and the party is over. Then one of two things generally happens: the first is that the guru's message turns pessimistic or doomsday, voicing something like this: Soon civilization is going to break down and face amazing disasters -- except for us, who are wisely withdrawing to protectdt ourselves and retain our purity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Now and Dec 4th
if you have Jyotish software look at the difference between now and then. The Raja didn't day anything about a doomsday, and neither am I. But for some individuals and nations, things could be different very fast, some for the better, some for the worse. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FOXNEWS:Doomsday Message From Raja John Konhaus today
this is like a FOXNEWS tactic ( there never was any Doomsday message ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] If we would like to look at tomorrow, the present eye must be closed.ok it is
kind of doomsdayish. machine translated from Japanese: Suzuki: Because the Far Eastern region, now, is emergency, it cooperates with Korea, keeps increasing the number of people of that time zone It is place existence. There is a bigger harmony and the program of the individuals in order to raise coherence, the [ma] It does, probably will be? [maharishi]: Convey to everyone as follows. Now, integrated characteristic of the country (harmony) above problem private matter When attaching importance to a greater extent, is not. Now, when the fact that one by one convenience is assured is seriously considered To examine the time of the flying whose are most convenient for everyone who is not coming install Occasion. In order to achieve this, everyone should adjust the various matters of daily life. Day In the book, is the flier no person to be? Suzuki: In Japan 4000 have completed [shideikosu]. Among those so far [shida] 700 The participation register to the standardization time program is done. [maharishi]: 4000 with also just 1/4, in one time zone, should have programmed at such as house of each one Probably will be. Convey to everyone. If with by your, it is possible also to make Japan invincible, this To the way, also it is possible to continue to be the slave of power of the foreign country. With by your, that decision It is fixed to be possible, that convey. Present Japan is the slave of foreign power. Convey candidly . It is the slave of foreign power. Comprehensive natural method, is possible the fact that blessing the space constitution is obtained to Japan 4 time thing sufficient 4000 calls the flier of number, is already to be. Time the person Convey also not waiting. It is unreasonable when, be able to participate this time in that time, Perhaps it is and and so on, today it can say. But if there is tomorrow bombardment, you can evacuate somewhere With it probably means saying? [maharishi]: Convey to Korean member everyone. As for Korea the griddle which was heated hotly in the world of politics, It becomes the way. Now normally the time is not. Now, for us when the normal It is not coming. Now, when quite being dangerous, it is to be. As for the only method, you evacuate in happiness It is to do. Raising the integrated characteristic of national consciousness, it is only that. Do the standardization time program. When breath stops, in order to continue life, it is dense The program by any means is necessary. This very is important. Very it is important. Taiwan Give warning in also the teachers. From there convey warning to Taiwan. [hu] of group For [raingu] practice, the Taiwan people must do all things. Convey to Taiwan teachers. Have given challenge I to the Taiwan member. You exist Or disappearing from the world? Presently, it is not other than this method, that, That way convey. Suzuki: To be, [maharishi] teacher. [maharishi]: As for me, destructive American government, inquires about that the destructive weapon is sold to Pakistan, increase It is. America separately and is to like to make the battlefield. Area of largest countries such as India and China It is to like to cause war. If in calmness, it does not use this mechanism which quite creates the air of strong peace, as for desire the [a] The [ri] increase it is. If we would like to look at tomorrow, the present eye must be closed. And appointment It is to fly to time. Use the telephone on everyone. We now have met together here. There is a life still in us and has existed but Destructive power presently advances. Now here, you try even in Europe. Only It does, those countries are the small country. But Japan is the large country. There is a major bank and the like in Japan, but Tomorrow you do not know how it becomes. Vis-a-vis the Japanese bank, our projects, the silver In order to adopt, as work of line convey. Invincible characteristic project, [shida] everyone, suitable It is distressing, it is the project which it tries to be able to live in the building of [vuasutou]. [vu] whose [shida] everyone is appropriate We should live in [asutou]. Other than installing the group of flying in that country, other method It is not. It is the group of flying for the country. Furthermore, please inform also several thousand enterprises. There are several thousand enterprises in Japan. Enterprise, Exporting the product, if only you sell to each country, it is not sufficient. As for entire circumstance with normality It is and is. Japan must be based in regard to consciousness and must become independent. So if it does, the [be] which is done It probably means that the [te] becomes good. Suzuki, as for you it is possible to rescue the country. Nation is made invincible It is the leader which knows [ru] method. Invincible characteristic of consciousness of the country, is the most important target Convey thing to everyone. Quickly, quickly and quickly please do that. Suzuki: It was,
[FairfieldLife] Sharadiya Navaratri Nine Days of Mother Divine
There is many hours of beautiful Vedic Chanting on www.mou.org these days. The free version is very nice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: gross...The pharaoh's daughter who was the mother of all Scots
http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=1343642006 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Scots are a mix of the Celts and Picts, with some Viking and the ancient Welsh thrown in for good measure. All of these are descendents of a rag-tag Indo-European race of Gypsies that came out of Afghanistan/Pakistan with Vedic aspirations and high priests called the Drawids. They took over the Angels island and re-named it Prithivi-Tejas (Priddh-Tain - in the Gaelic ) They are rude crude and cannot be trusted. I have denounced their kind many lifetimes ago. OffWorldBeings feste37 feste37@ wrote: You must be a Scot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Heh heh. Haggis is mostly barley, onions and spices -- not a lot of meat in there really. The stomache lining is just used as a bag as all sausages used to be made. You don't usually eat the lining. Haggis is good food OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
If you watch the latest Global Family Chat (today's)the Zimmerman family appears doing great things. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been bringing myself up to date on all the TM gossip this past week. I learned about the Kaplans, but I have noticed that people have mentioned the Zimmerman's sometimes in the same sentence. Are they no longer with the movement? When I lived in Faifield, they were THE big name on campus. So what happened? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
Also I believe one woman of that family is one of the women crowned today as RajaRajeshwari. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been bringing myself up to date on all the TM gossip this past week. I learned about the Kaplans, but I have noticed that people have mentioned the Zimmerman's sometimes in the same sentence. Are they no longer with the movement? When I lived in Faifield, they were THE big name on campus. So what happened? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi bowing out?
If you watch the Sept 27th? press conference he states this - that he going into silence to create a guide to life after the phase transition to Heaven on Earth. He will speak again after that. He only speaks briefly at the Victory Day Celebration to praise Maharaja Nadar Ram's decision to create 18 RajaRajeshwari's. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a swan song? I just read this from John Hagelin: Last night, Maharishi addressed America and handed over responsibility for completing this phase transition to 'the leaders of the movement.' By that, Maharishi meant you and meall of us. Here's the full text: WE ARE RESPONSIBLE NOW Dear Fellow Meditators and Sidhas, For fifty years, Maharishi has talked at length to the world press and the public about how his Vedic technologies of consciousness can prevent wars, promote prosperity, and raise every nation to its full dignity in invincibility. Now Maharishi has stopped talking and is producing the effect. Anyone in the press or public who might have questioned the truth of Maharishi's words needs only to look now to the sudden and dramatic transformation in the quality of life of Americafrom deepening fear and failure, as reported in the press before the Invincible America Assembly began 68 days ago, to growing confidence and success today. The first stage of this unprecedented phase transition to an Invincible America has been created by the 1400 Sidhas who have come to Washington, D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City to fly together. (And 1400 is still several hundred fewer than the number required!) **Last night, Maharishi addressed America and handed over responsibility for completing this phase transition to the leaders of the movement. By that, Maharishi meant you and meall of us.** (emphasis added) And Maharishi gave us one specific instruction to finish the task: Raise the numbers in Maharishi Vedic City to 2000 Yogic Flyers. I have said this before. We all have made our plans in lifewhere we want to go to school, where we want to raise our families, where we want to live when we retire. Maharishi is now urging us to change those plans: for the good of the nation and the world, yesbut really, for our own good. Because only in the large group, Maharishi has said, will we fulfill the supreme, blissful purpose of our lifewhich is to rise to Unity Consciousness, to live in the glory of the light of God. Maharishi has thrown open the doors to enlightenment for us, right now, at this time, and he is welcoming us home. Please change your life plans now. Please come and live and fly with an assembly of the wise, and enjoy your God-given birthright to live in perfect health, happiness, and supreme fulfillment. Jai Guru Dev John Hagelin BREAKING RECORDS September 28, 2006 Today is the 5th day of the third month of U.S. national consciousness rising to invincibility, as indicated by the following press reports, which continue to reveal the dramatic, 180 degree turnaround in the fortunes of the nation... Wall Street Journal: Dow Jones Industrial Average Rises Above All- Time Record Set in January 2000 Bloomberg News: Price of Oil Continues to Fall Bloomberg News: Gas Drops to Lowest Level in Almost 4 Years The Washington Post: Sales of New Homes Unexpectedly Jump in AugustBiggest Gain in Five Months The New York Times: Federal Reserve Board Director Sees Steady U.S. Productivity Gains The New York Times: Top U.S. Finance Executives See Steady National Economy A few days ago, we reported that the strong U.S. economy is lifting European stocks. Now comes this good news... Reuters: Asian stocks boosted by unexpected big jump in U.S. consumer confidence Here is more good news coming from the Middle East... Reuters: New poll finds 70% of Americans favor diplomacy over military intervention to resolve Iran impasse The Washington Post: Bush to give more time for diplomacy to work in Iran Bloomberg News: Progress in talks between Iran and European Union to break the deadlock over Iran's atomic program The rise of coherence in national consciousness is translating into good news for farmers... The Christian Science Monitor: The rarest of all things for an American farmer: a good harvest this year And finally, here is good news of healthier dietary trends among young people... USA Today: More university students call for organic food grown without pesticides, herbicides, antibiotics or hormones This is just a taste of the excellent news coming from the United States press on 5th day of the third month of the historic Invincible America Course. JAI GURU DEV To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
I'm sure it will be replayed again on the www.mou.org the coronation was largely but not exactly the same --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Also I believe one woman of that family is one of the women crowned today as RajaRajeshwari. Say more. Women being crowned as Rajas? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi bowing out?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: If you watch the Sept 27th? press conference he states this - that he going into silence to create a guide to life after the phase transition to Heaven on Earth. He will speak again after that. He only speaks briefly at the Victory Day Celebration to praise Maharaja Nadar Ram's decision to create 18 RajaRajeshwari's. His voice sounded quite strong compared to last time I heard him. I noticed this too. Perhaps the rest is already doing him good. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
Rajeshwari is a Devi ( Devi as world-ruler) so the reduplication just means that she is an embodiement of Devi as Raja. They actually get aarti done TO them in their coronation, whereas the men don't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Also I believe one woman of that family is one of the women crowned today as RajaRajeshwari. Say more. Women being crowned as Rajas? Well, raajeshvara (raaja + iishvara?) means according to MW, 'lord of kings'. I guess raajeshvarii is the feminine form of that word. I have no idea what the reduplication of raaja could mean. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
RajaRajeshwari is itself a name of Devi. At the end of their coronations, what Maharishi says is that speaking of the Veda as the expression of human physiology and as the constitution of the universe, and the creation of RajaRajeshwaris, are all ideas of Maharaja Nadar Ram and he refers to them as all miracle ideas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Also I believe one woman of that family is one of the women crowned today as RajaRajeshwari. Say more. Women being crowned as Rajas? Well, raajeshvara (raaja + iishvara?) means according to MW, 'lord of kings'. I guess raajeshvarii is the feminine form of that word. I have no idea what the reduplication of raaja could mean. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] a time to be cautious(around 29th)-forwarded from SAMVA
e: Transit - multiple afflictions Dear Professor Choudhry, Thank you very much for the warning. Indeed, the overall planetary energy is unusually weak at this time and the afflictions noted at that time therefore likely to be more harmful than otherwise. Best wishes, C --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello dear list members, On 29th of October there are going to be multiple transit afflictions: 1. Mars, Sun and Venus would be conjunct ( Mars and Venus) be combust. 2. Jupiter and Mercury would be in conjunction and in infancy. Both of these planets under the exact affliction of Rahu. 3. For some time even the Moon would be under the influence of Ketu. 4. The Sun would be in its sign of debilitation. 5. Saturn would be in the extreme old age. Planetary weakness and conjunctions/aspects necessitate care for almost everybody. So, take care of yourself and your nears and dears around this date. Better do not plan outings around this date. Best wishes, V K Choudhry To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a time to be cautious(around 29th)-forwarded from SAMVA
I have seen the value of Choudhry's SA principles by looking at charts and events over long times.He does have a good predictive track record and thats why so many are interested in SA. I would rather not believe in SA but I have been convinced by long examination. I think he is too dismissive of all the complexities of traditional Jyotish and SA may not always be valid for persons who are involved in higher spiritual practices, but he is the pre-eminent astrologer of Kaliyuga. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People yearn for a prophet, and someone with enough fudge-it skill can fool a lot of people some of the time , and some people a lot of the time. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: As far as Choudhry's jyotish abilities are concerned I'd give him a fat zero. I used to be on his yahoo news group and it was absurd the way people used to fawn all over his post hoc predictive ability. The TB are not only in the TMO! --- shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: e: Transit - multiple afflictions Dear Professor Choudhry, Thank you very much for the warning. Indeed, the overall planetary energy is unusually weak at this time and the afflictions noted at that time therefore likely to be more harmful than otherwise. Best wishes, C --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], siha@ wrote: Hello dear list members, On 29th of October there are going to be multiple transit afflictions: 1. Mars, Sun and Venus would be conjunct ( Mars and Venus) be combust. 2. Jupiter and Mercury would be in conjunction and in infancy. Both of these planets under the exact affliction of Rahu. 3. For some time even the Moon would be under the influence of Ketu. 4. The Sun would be in its sign of debilitation. 5. Saturn would be in the extreme old age. Planetary weakness and conjunctions/aspects necessitate care for almost everybody. So, take care of yourself and your nears and dears around this date. Better do not plan outings around this date. Best wishes, V K Choudhry To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plans for meditation at Terra Linda High don't soothe everyone
it likely won't be $2500 per student. LIkely a big discount if it is school-wide like maybe $600 per. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Cool. A high school in same district as mine(during whose attendance I started TM). In an article from a newspaper for which I was once a paperboy. http://www.marinij.com/ci_4474770 Terra Linda High School plans to launch a Transcendental Meditation program with the help of a $175,000 grant from noted filmmaker David Lynch. Lynch established a foundation in his name to spread Transcendental Meditation to schools as a method of stress management. The Terra Linda program would be the David Lynch Foundation's first in California, although others operate in Washington, D.C., and Detroit. Principal Carole Ramsey became an enthusiastic supporter after hearing Lynch speak, but some say Transcendental Meditation is rooted in a religious movement that is inappropriate for public school. If this is a publicly-funded school, it's a no-starter and a waste of Lynch's time and money. Like all of you, I'd love to see TM as part of the curriculum of all schools but we all know that the religious types will cry foul and that TM violates the separation of church and state...and they will, of course, be on solid ground for claiming it. Not that I believe TM to be a religion, nor that the puja as I was taught to use it on TTC is religious in any way. But the way the TMO conducts itself IS religious and too many bugaboos will be brought into the equation to result in anything but negativity and failure. Better for Lynch to concentrate on colleges and universities where the issue won't come up. $175,000 /2500 = 70 students. The program is small enough it might squeak by . JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do accept the premise that TM works and does everything that is claimed that it does. But what the TMO has been doing for the past 25 years has, in my opinion, been directly at odds with promulgating TM Then I guess TM didn't have the predicted effect on those responsible for propagating TM. If it had, they would have made more sensible decisions. Quite so, but is it the case that the decisions haven't been worthwhile? Raising the price allows people to take out loans to learn it. That gives it far more legitimacy than if it was taught for $10. Does it? Amma insists that her meditation be taught for free. Course participants may be asked for $10-$30 Participants in the Amma meditation teaching here in Toronto are charged about $250CND to cover the teacher's travel expenses, etc., and the course includes two meals. Does that arrangement make it illegitimate? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: IAM Cost
I am a fan of Amma and her teaching.I have had puja's done with her org and I have there copy of the Lalithambika saharanama book and tape, and thats not all. But this is the only way you could learn the IAM technique here . So the cost I mentioned wasn't in opposition to Amma's intention's, as you inaccurately stated (she was here). Nor was it honest for you to describe that level of cost as a rumor when paying that cost was the only way you could learn (since January 04 it seems). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 8:38 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cost of the course that I saw was when Amma herself was in Toronto giving it. It was that or more. You could only take it by going on the retreat. That was the cost of a weekend retreat with Amma. It included one's hotel room and meals. If you were on the retreat, you could learn the IAM meditation at no additional cost. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj wrote: Since integration of the senses with pure consciousness is complete in CC, one retains complete awareness of surroundings during sleep. That is, one would continue to hear sounds and feel sensations, etc. Peter of the No I writes: Lots of good stuff in your post, Vaj, but I have serious questions regarding the above. Awareness of surroundings, but not through the senses. The buddhi doesn't function on a gross level during sleep. Tom T writes: It is my experience that one can have complete awareness of surroundings during sleep. The only problemo is that of complete and utter boredom. It is like watching the old Test Pattern on TV which used to be on most of the night. After so many nights of the same bedroom and the same bed it is all the same, all the same. After a while one just shuts it down. Deep sleep is preferable to total boredom. Spend weeks, months and years being aware of your intimate surroundings and see how long before you shut it down. TOm I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and would like to avoid it if I could. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits on Canadian islands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for Canada, although the weather is even worse than Iowa's: The weather is much milder than Iowa. It might be quite a good idea for the pundits to be in an isolated island . At the inauguration celebration, representatives from the Global Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It will soon be home to a university of 200 students, a parliament building for 200 representatives from all over the world and a home for 121 experts from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic Flying. http://tinyurl.com/bher4 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India
this dude in Oregon makes some seriously good rasayanas www.ayurveda-herbs.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advise to everyone is stick to well known standard companies if you are purchasing Ayurvedic medicines. Do you have some names on well known standard companies, making Ayurvedic Medicines? Ingegerd Hi Ingegerd I was in the ayurvedic business before the TM org got involved and, in fact, got told to stop by the TM org. The two very best companies I know of are as follows: Here are two of the better ones: 1) Bazaar of India (http://www.bazaarofindia.com/)of Berkeley, CA They are known for their high quality raw (powdered) herbs, all of which are organically grown. They were initially the main supplier to MAV when the whole ayurvedic aspect of the TM org started 2) Banyan Botanicals (http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/) These are both excellent companies. Banyan makes more formulas than Bazaar of India, but B of I also makes formulas in addition to raw herbs. Ken Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2006?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/17/05 8:42 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006 is COMING! It will be bleak. Be prepared. I recall years ago Maharishi saying something like in the age of enlightenment, the minimum acceptable level of consciousness is CC. Anyone have the exact quote? I am paraphrasing, but given all the 'bubbling' these days, I would think such a level IS required, in order not to get glued to the challenges of this modern world. At Poland Spring he talked a lot about survival of the fittest and kept saying that we had to be fittest in order to survive. Don't let them fool ya, Or even try to school ya! Oh, no! We've got a mind of our own, So go to hell if what you're thinking is not right! Love would never leave us alone, A-yin the darkness there must come out to light. Could you be loved and be loved? Could you be loved, wo now! - and be loved? The road of life is rocky and you may stumble too, So while you point your fingers someone else is judging you Love your brotherman! (Could you be - could you be - could you be loved? Could you be - could you be loved? Could you be - could you be - could you be loved? Could you be - could you be loved?) Don't let them change ya, oh! - Or even rearrange ya! Oh, no! We've got a life to live. They say: only - only - only the fittest of the fittest shall survive - Stay alive! Eh! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Perhaps Maharishi- Meant to Say...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/22/05 9:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering about the caves that Guru Dev and Tat Wala Baba and other Masters used. Were they perfect Vastus? And the Ashrams that Enlightened Masters lived in? I think the perfect Vastus is inside ourselves - not outside. Ingegerd This Vastu stuff is for people living in artificial environments. I would say that this Vastu stuff is for artificial people living in artificial environments. As Maharishi once put it, Sthapatya Veda is entertainment for the rich. Rick Archer's Maharishi quotes are for entertainment purposes only. As one (other?) person here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rays of Sun??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas why Bhoja seems to mention rays of sun in connection with the most advanced stage of Yogic Flying? aaditya-rashmibhish ca viharan yatheSTam (yathaa + iSTam) aakaashena gacchati. I would suggest a translation like: Walking about (?viharan) with(?) the rays of sun (aaditya-rashmi_bhish) s/he goes (gacchati) in the space (aakaashena) as s/he wishes (yatheSTam). Instead of aaditya-rashmi Vyaasa has mere rashmi in the plural locative case (rashmiSu: in the rays, or stuff). It is just you are high in the sky like rays of the sun as they appear through clouds. Can you translate this Eki? It the ending of a mantra: shayinah Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rays of Sun??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Any ideas why Bhoja seems to mention rays of sun in connection
with the most advanced stage of Yogic Flying?
aaditya-rashmibhish ca viharan yatheSTam (yathaa + iSTam)
aakaashena gacchati.
I would suggest a translation like:
Walking about (?viharan) with(?) the rays of sun
(aaditya-rashmi_bhish)
s/he goes (gacchati) in the space (aakaashena) as s/he wishes
(yatheSTam).
Instead of aaditya-rashmi Vyaasa has mere rashmi in the plural
locative case (rashmiSu: in the rays, or stuff).
It is just you are high in the sky like rays of the sun as they appear
through clouds.
Can you translate this Eki? It the ending of a mantra: shayinah
It seems to be nominative plural (or genitive [e.g. of]/ablative
[e.g. from] singular) of shaayin:
1 shAyin mfn. lying down , reclining , resting , abiding Br. c. c.
(mostly ifc. ; cf. %{adhaH-} , %{eka-z-} c.)
So, for instance of/from the resting one (genitive/ablative
singular) , the resting ones (nominative plural).
If you have any context, please don't ask for the meaning of an
individual word form, because, as you can see, it often depends on the
context. As an analogy in English, if you ask for the meaning
of can, one can't know whether you mean the verb or the noun.
It is a mantra for sleep,
For sound sleep:
1. Om agasti shayinah
so despite not nowing the context you have explained it.Thank-you. I'm
thinking that agasti is denoting the Rishi - Agastya.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna By Choice. It Works
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you need to lighten-up a bit. When you post comments in the past about niggers and kikes and then talk about great spiritual experiences it is a bit humorous, isn't it? I'm glad you're having great experiences with your yagyas. No one's defaiming your character, we're just noting its incredible irony because spiritual growth is usually equated with greater compassion and understanding which your previous posts did not demonstrate. -Peter Is this Tom guy what one you referred to as your nigah? You're not a psycholoist, are you? You didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night as you wouldn't be putting the mark of Cain on someone's forehead. A psychologist has hope, nay, an intention that their patients get better. The believe people can get better. No, you can't be a clinical physchologist. You're an experimental psychologist at FAU. You write for the worm runners digest. But definitely you're not a clinical psychologist. Tom, anyone ever mention you might have a tad of an anger problem? Does it ever strike you as odd that your anger doesn't abate even after an apology by the guilty party There is a number of legends about the Rishi Durvas like this. became angry and cursed her to live apart from Lord Krishna. That is why Krishna's temple is in t..: http://www.indhistory.com/hindu-temple/hindu-temple-dwarka-temple.htmlHe Prince Samb was suffering with leprosy due to a curse by Rishi Durvasa. Th..: http://www.yadav.com/yadavhist.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis and Judaism
Apparently Maharishi has commented on the connection between ancient Jewish teachings and the knowledge he is presenting. I think there was a video or magazine available in Isreal where he is interviewed on this. Someone in the TM movement in Isreal would know about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dr. Natan Ophir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for anyone interested in comparative studies of TM-Sidhis with similar practical techniques in Judaism such as R. Yitzahk Sagi Nahor (R. Isaac the Blind, the 12th century father of Jewish Mysticism) on reaching the source of thought, the Admor of Piacezna's technique of quieting down the mind, Maimonides' Guide to the Perplexed 3,51 on Devekut Consciousness achieved through Meditative practice and many more... Rabbi Dr. Natan Ophir Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the Tom that created such a stir here
Tom Pall is Icarus Icarus, my son, I charge you to keep at a moderate height, for if you fly too low the damp will clog your wings, and if too high the heat will melt them. Keep near me and you will be safe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, would someone please clear this up. I thought that Tom Pall,who Peter seemed to be arguing with, was Brahmn and not that turns out not to be so. I just looked backwards through the posts and the only post I could find that were from Tom Pall have his name showing. And all he seemed to post was quotes from Deepak Chopra. So who is Peter arguing with, who are you attributing the identity of Tom to? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Does he tell you he loves you when he hits you? Abuse. Narrated by Halle Berry. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hemMeA/rbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global attention. But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride This is a personal attack based on speculation. There is even speculation about mental states ie. Pride in the case of Maharishi. So it is making negative assumptions in an editorial way rather than sticking to facts. You haven't added any clarity to this old story and I question the salubrity of your motivation in bothering to bring it up now. stand in the way of the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies
Parts of the U.S.A. are as Poor as the Third World For half a century the US has seen a sustained decline in the number of children who die before their fifth birthday. - But since 2000 this trend has been reversed. The infant mortality rate in the US is now the same as in Malaysia By Paul Vallely The Independent [UK], 08 September 2005 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article311066.ece Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according to a shocking United Nations report on global inequality. Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the American political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN report provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an ongoing nightmare. The document constitutes a stinging attack on US policies at home and abroad in a fightback against moves by Washington to undermine next week's UN 60th anniversary conference which will be the biggest gathering of world leaders in history. The annual Human Development Report normally concerns itself with the Third World, but the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in health provision inside the US as part of a survey of how inequality worldwide is retarding the eradication of poverty. It reveals that the infant mortality rate has been rising in the US for the past five years - and is now the same as Malaysia. America's black children are twice as likely as whites to die before their first birthday. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Astrology Predicts(Jyotish)/Could Hit D.C./Late Wed. or Thurs...'
A Hurricane caused serious damage and fatalities even farther north and inland http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-70-77/disasters_tragedies/huricane_hazel/ -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certain interpretations; Of this ancient means of prediction; Indicate a possible hit of the nations capital; By Hurricane Ophelia.. Stayed Tuned! R.Gimbel Seattle,WA..USA There is no way in God's green earth that a hurricane could hit Washigton, DC. The problem is that a hurricane draws its strength from warm water. the warmer the water, the more powerful the hurricane. Once a hurricane hits land it loses it primary source of energy and coasts on it accumulated energy slowly loosing wind speed until it becomes a tropical storm and then breaks apart. DC is too far inland. If a hurricane hits it, it will be very, very weak. - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Astrology Predicts(Jyotish)/Could Hit D.C./Late Wed. or Thurs...'
Who is the Jyotishi, using what chart? If a jyotishee is willing risk his reputation with a public prediction then I can respect that,however I posted predictions from the SA group SAMVA here because I saw very impressive accuracy there predicting what would happen next in the Democratic presidential primaries. A prediction made anonymously and with no jyotish reasoning given is pretty silly to me to say the least. If it comes true you acknowledge it and if it doesn't.well you keep guessing until you get one correct. No chart or jyotish reasoning provided isnt Jyotish it is channeling or psychic or whatnot... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certain interpretations; Of this ancient means of prediction; Indicate a possible hit of the nations capital; By Hurricane Ophelia.. Stayed Tuned! R.Gimbel Seattle,WA..USA - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Inequality kills
Life expectancy in rich nations correlates precisely with levels of equality. So Greece, with half the GDP per head, has longer life expectancy than the US, the richest and most unequal country with the lowest life expectancy in the developed world. The people of Harlem live shorter lives than the people of Bangladesh. When you take out the violence and drugs, two-thirds of the reason is heart disease. Is that bad diet? No, says Wilkinson, it is mainly stress, the stress of living at the bottom of the pecking order, on the lowest rung, the stress of disrespect and lack of esteem. Bad nutrition does less harm than depression. http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/politicsphilosophyandsociety/0,6121,1538844,00.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inequality kills
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life expectancy in rich nations correlates precisely with levels of equality. So Greece, with half the GDP per head, has longer life expectancy than the US, the richest and most unequal country I take great exception to most unequal. If you're talking rights and freedoms, you're totally wrong. If you're talking economics, you're 180 degrees wrong. There is no country on Earth -- including those wonderful socialistic Scandinavian countries -- that have better economic equality than the United States. There is virtually ZERO gap between rich and so-called poor in the U.S. And I'm NOT talking poverty line or income...I'm talking access to the basic necessities of life. You are missing the point. Try thinking about it about more. Or follow the link and read the rest of the book review. On THAT standard, there is virtually a ZERO gap between Bill Gates and that perennial 8-year-old kid sitting on a heap of garbage in Harlem. with the lowest life expectancy in the developed world. The people of Harlem live shorter lives than the people of Bangladesh. When you take out the violence and drugs, two-thirds of the reason is heart disease. Is that bad diet? No, says Wilkinson, it is mainly stress, the stress of living at the bottom of the pecking order, on the lowest rung, the stress of disrespect and lack of esteem. Bad nutrition does less harm than depression. http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/politicsphilosophyandsociety/0,6121 ,1538844,00.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you haven't read Dr. Robert Svoboda's books, especially the Aghora/Kundalini three part series I would suggest he is the best source of insight I'm aware of into what you are experiencing. Please share the details of your advanced technique. If you let me know your e-mail address I might send you an e-mail trying to describe it. I read FFL on the web site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The advanced technique that I've developed partly by accident, partly by experimenting during meditation causes for instance symptoms like these: woodyness and the liquids in my mouth becoming thicker or somewhat sticky and tasting a bit better than normally. What are these signs of? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Deeksha megaTsunami?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
The western astrologer Julian Lee has said that the outer planets are very important if you are unenlightened, the more enlightened you are the influence of the planets fade from Pluto inwards.He states he has seen in the lives of clients who are engaged in spiritual practice like TM or Kriya Yoga that this is the case. Thus they weren't of much concern to Rishis like Parashara. David Frawley/Vamanadeva Shastri has written how the outer planets are indeed mentioned in the ancient texts. They considered many other bodies ( which are invisible to modern science!) to be more worth detailing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Right:...The trans-Saturnian planets are known to the Vedic pundits as to vibrations; but these planets are not incorporated into Indian horoscopes since their exact positions can only be known using modern technology. But now that the locations of these planets ARE known, there's positively NO excuse (IMO - after 30 years investigating astrology); to incorporate their transits into readings. Some Indian astrologers attempt to sweep these planets under the rug, saying they're not important. Baloney!...They are VERY important. authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip the mere fact that Neptune and other solar system objects were not mentioned in Jyotish does not mean that the existence of these objects was not appreciated (evidently there is a dividing line of Jyotish significance in the solar system, and Neptune etc are simply too far out to be significant for Jyotish). Which line (purely coincidentally, you understand) *just happens* to have been drawn between the planets you can't possibly miss, and those that are either not visible or only *very* dimly visible to the naked eye (Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] forwarded text of a Fairfeild Jyotishi on new Shuttle launch time
Dear Friends: The second attempt to launch the Space Shuttle Discovery takes place tomorrow, July 26th, at 10:39 a.m. Here are the chart details: July 26, 2005 10:39 a.m. Cape Canaveral, Florida (FL) USA Timezone: 5 DST: 1 80W36'18 28N24'20 Virgo Rising Sign, 00:21 degrees. In viewing this chart, there are a number of concerns. Mercury, ruling the chart and therefore the health and longevity of the Shuttle, is weak in old age, and is under the wide aspect of Rahu, ruling explosions and unexpected calamities. Mercury is ruled by the Moon, which is also closely afflicted by Rahu. The operating planet, Venus, the natural signficator for conveyances and ruling the second house of status and continuation of family life, is badly placed in the twelfth house of losses and expenses. The ruler of the twelfth house, Sun, is closely afflicted by the functional malefic Saturn, ruling the sixth house of fire and conflicts. (Saturn is combust and under the aspect affliction of Mars, the eighth ruler of delays, obstructions, accidents and deathlike experiences.) Sun, representing government, and ruling the twelfth house of losses, is also weak on account of the weakness of its dispositor, the afflicted Moon. The well placed Jupiter, ruling the fourth house of conveyances, and Mars, placed in its own mooltrikona sign, may be helpful, but it seems that overall the chart is connected with losses, explosions, accidents, obstructions, delays, etc. Once again, I predict a cancellation of the launch, or serious problems with the mission. Let's pray for the welfare of the crew and their families. Best wishes, David Hawthorne, M.S., J.B. President, IIPA http://www.iipa.net To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter
reminds me of when I was calling companies trying to get only the head of the corporation on the line to pitch to him to invest in Vedaland. Amazes me that I ever did such a thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Maharishi requesting our help quickly! please read Dear Governors, Sidhas and Meditators, In keeping with his goals of reducing poverty on earth and getting all of humankind living and working in buildings aligned with Nature's functioning, Maharishi has developed a plan to use vast hectares of land in poor nations to grow Vedic organic food and use the profits to re-build for the poor in the nation as well as to underwrite the building of universities and hospitals, etc. Maharishi has asked us to immediately contact stock and bond underwriting firms and investors in the global financial markets about our plan for Global Reconstruction for World Peace through Maharishi Vedic Organic Agriculture. This is a very practical and viable plan due to the enormous growth of organic agriculture worldwide and the relationships we have developed over the years with governments of poor countries that have large tracts of unused agricultural land for development. We are contacting these investment firms over these coming few days to assist with our $600 billion offering and get their response. Therefore, if you have any contacts at any such firms please let me know immediately. If they are close personal contacts and you would like to remain involved when they are contacted, please let me know so we can work that out. While the fundraising is large, investors with vision will understand what we are doing and want to get involved -- from the investment viewpoint as well as for the goal of poverty removal and world peace. PLEASE ACT ON THIS NOW and let me know if you can help right away. Please email to one of the following email addresses. Thank you, Raja Paul Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ®Transcendental Meditation, TM, TM-Sidhi, Maharishi, Maharishi Sthapatya Veda, Vastu Vidya, Maharishi Vastu, Maharishi Yoga. Maharishi Yagya, Maharishi Jyotish, Maharishi Vedic Astrology, Maharishi Gandharva Veda, Maharishi Vedic Vibration Technology, MVVT, Maharishi Vedic Approach to Health, Maharishi Vedic Medicine, Maharishi Vedic School, Maharishi Vedic University, Maharishi Vedic Center, Maharishi Open University, Maharishi University of Management, Maharishi Spiritual University of America, Maharishi Corporate Development Program, Maharishi Vedic Science, Consciousness Based, Maharishi Transcendental Meditation, and Maharishi Global Administration through Natural Law are registered or common law trademarks licensed to Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: press report on skelmersdale quotes paul mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious how many people were learning TM prior to the ban. Probably as many are learning it now! The whole thing is so silly. Teach TM if you feel it's the right thing to do. What's the worst thing that can happen, MMY yells at you? The worse thing that can happen is that you break the promise you made when you became a TM teacher. Maharishi was asked at one of the press conferences what he thought about a journalist who said he learned TM from a TM teacher outside the movement, and he said he was happy at least if he was taught exactly according to his instructions. He was philospical about people leaving to teach on their and suggested they are better off remaining within the fold but never said anything overtly negative against it. Of course, people are always free to do what they like, but are you comfortable with advising people so cavalierly to go explicitly against the wishes of the guy who taught them in the first place? --- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Town That Lost Its Guru Story from REDNOVA NEWS: http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=210725 Published: 2005/08/17 06:00:00 CDT With eyes tight shut, legs crossed and mind meandering, I briefly flirt with inner peace. Beneath a golden dome that is the British centre for the teachings of a mystical guru from the East, the time has come to dabble with the power of meditation. For a moment it seems like paradise. Then my eyes flicker, the faith fades and I remember that I am in Skelmersdale, Lancashire. Strange though it may seem, this new town of a thousand roundabouts is the European home to the followers of the man whose cosmic notions so entranced The Beatles in the 1960s: the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Here they came to deploy the force of transcendental meditation (TM), to find personal happiness and to make the world a better place. Now, though, a dark cloud casts its shadow over the Maharishi's British flock. The UK, the 95- year-old sage claims, has become a 'Scorpion nation', and meditative teachings merely serve to 'feed the destroyer of the world'. The Maharishi, it seems, is rather ticked off about the Iraq War and the arms trade. Teaching TM must cease in the UK immediately, he has ordered. 'We are rejecting one nation Britain which has proven to be a poisonous, divisive influence in the world family,' the leader blasts in a memo issued to his Global Country of World Peace recently. It all seems slightly hard on his followers in Skelmersdale, who set up base here 25 years ago and have built up a 400-strong community. Some of the people here wonder why their home country has been singled out and the US left alone, and a few have even mooted the previously unthinkable: disobeying the legendary figure and carrying on teaching. 'He is deeply upset about the arms trade,' says David Hughes, one of the founder members of the community, explaining that Britain, per head of population, actually has a worse record than anywhere else in the world. 'This is an issue we are all very concerned about.' Teaching meditation in the UK, it seems, could foster energies that make the situation worse. If the community has to cease such activities, then it will be for the greater good. But the rest of Skelmersdale is slightly nervous too, for they've grown rather fond of the Yogic fliers over the years. With meditation has come an award-winning school, a gym, a business centre and new houses. The Maharishi's men and women have injected cash into the local economy and some even claim their presence has revitalised it. Now the Yogics are being urged to flee for larger, better- funded settlements abroad. 'When we first came in 1980 things were really bleak,' explains Hughes, a Lancashire man by birth. Hughes and a handful of other devotees opted for Skelmersdale over other new towns because the rents were cheap and it was near the heart of Britain, offering easy access from Scotland and the Southeast. At the time, very few other operations viewed it as a viable centre. 'Now you can hardly find any spare business space. If you want to set up here you have to build from scratch.' It has even been suggested that their communal meditation reversed the crime rate in the nearby Merseyside area from being one of the worst in the UK to being among the best although Hughes concedes that he still doesn't leave his car unattended in Liverpool at night. He admits that the general
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means Letting Go...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, shaking, etc. a common defect if shakti awakens from below I obviously have this problem what do I do? instead of above--consequently the experiential commentaries give techniques on this when commenting on this word (shaithilya). Oral trad. gives the 30 levels of corpse pos. On May 20, 2005, at 4:33 PM, cardemaister wrote: Well, Patañjali seems to dig the word shaithilya, e.g. prayatna-shaithilya: zaithilya Entry zaithilya Meaning n. looseness , laxity Hariv. R. c. ; flaccidity Sus3r. ; decrease , diminution , smallness , weskness , relaxation , remission , depression (of the mind) , unsteadiness , vacancy (of gaze) MBh. Ka1v. c. ; negligence in (comp.) Campak. ; relaxation of rule or connection W. ; dilatoriness , inattention MW. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote
As one of the english speaking white people that has lived in Quebec I would say that Shemps comments are pretty silly. We are obviously not a perfect society here in Canada, and I doubt that there is anything like 1% meditating with TM any more. But the Canadian story IS one of a peaceful harmonious coexistance of two founding peoples, the resolutions of debates about sucession by almost exculsively peaceful means, and a very low crime rate compared to not only the USA next door but even in the context of the whole world. All this in a very racially and culturally diverse society that welcomes a high rate of immigration and at least officiallly acknowledges and tries to redress the injustice done to First Nations. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? And some parts of Canada had over 1%. Canada IMO is a sattvic country--certainly compared to the US. Inner spirituality in general is very prevalent there, cities are spotless, etc. Canada is a racist country on the verge of splitting up. How sattvic is that? But for the grace of the United States does Canada enjoy the standard of living that they enjoy. Of course, they've never said thank you to the U.S. for it... Which races do Candians show bigotry against? Segregation in schools in now official in Canada, as a result of a Supreme Court of Canada decision a few months ago. There are two classes of people in Canada, specifically in Quebec: those that can freely choose to send their children to English or French publicly- funded schools and those that do NOT have that choice and must send their children to French schools. The free choice right is determined according to a form of discrimination that is virtually identical to both the Canadian Indian Act and the apartheid system of South Africa (now extinct): who your parents are and what their classification is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? And some parts of Canada had over 1%. Canada IMO is a sattvic country--certainly compared to the US. Inner spirituality in general is very prevalent there, cities are spotless, etc. Canada is a racist country on the verge of splitting up. How sattvic is that? But for the grace of the United States No truth to that. Nothing owed to the United States. US is a bully in trade as in everything else. Was when LBJ grabbed Pearson by the lapels and shoved him against a wall, and is to this day. We need to disengage from the US as much as is concievable and as fast as possible. You are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy and your irresponsibility would take us down with you. does Canada enjoy the standard of living that they enjoy. Of course, they've never said thank you to the U.S. for it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Is Maharishi who he claims to be?
Back in the eighties I met a guardian of the Shuka Nadi who was on tour with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. He gave a public talk in Montreal, which I attended. I do not remember his name but it may be the same person who is mentioned in this account: http://www.meditationclub.com/Palm.htm For those who don't know, the Shuka Nadi is a set of palm leaves that have been reprinted from ancient texts and passed down from ancient times. They are written by Maharishi Shukadeva, the son of the author of the most fundamental text of Jyotish, Maharishi Parashara. The Shuka Nadi contains prophecies about individuals who are destined to come and consult then. But they also contain prophecies about the world as well. We listened that evening spellbound and it was one of the rare times when you are so absorbed in a speech that I was surprised to find it had turned dark outside. This fellow had no connection to the TM movement. He did mention Maharishi specifically though and prefaced with remarks along the lines of despite whatever negative you may hear said about him he confirmed that he is mentioned in the Shuka Nadi, that he is in a sense perhaps more than he claims to be and his role as mentioned in the Shuka Nadi is what Maharishi claims it to be, though not in the exclusive way that the TM movement might lead one to believe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi who he claims to be?
That Maharishi is a partial Avatar and so are certain others who are alive today to save humanity and create a spiritual age, even though they may not know it. He said the H.H. The Dalai Lama was identifiable in he texts as one of these leaders. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon man, spill, what else did they say? - Original Message - From: shukra69 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is Maharishi who he claims to be? Back in the eighties I met a guardian of the Shuka Nadi who was on tour with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. He gave a public talk in Montreal, which I attended. I do not remember his name but it may be the same person who is mentioned in this account: http://www.meditationclub.com/Palm.htm For those who don't know, the Shuka Nadi is a set of palm leaves that have been reprinted from ancient texts and passed down from ancient times. They are written by Maharishi Shukadeva, the son of the author of the most fundamental text of Jyotish, Maharishi Parashara. The Shuka Nadi contains prophecies about individuals who are destined to come and consult then. But they also contain prophecies about the world as well. We listened that evening spellbound and it was one of the rare times when you are so absorbed in a speech that I was surprised to find it had turned dark outside. This fellow had no connection to the TM movement. He did mention Maharishi specifically though and prefaced with remarks along the lines of despite whatever negative you may hear said about him he confirmed that he is mentioned in the Shuka Nadi, that he is in a sense perhaps more than he claims to be and his role as mentioned in the Shuka Nadi is what Maharishi claims it to be, though not in the exclusive way that the TM movement might lead one to believe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi who he claims to be?
I don't know why it indicates that. I have no evidence on that question one way or another. Vedavyasa himself is considered to be a partial avatar Vaishnavas use this to describe Shiva. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would seem to indicate, if I am getting Shukra correctly, that M. is NOT a Maharishi, i.e. a seer of the Veda. There has been talk that he cognized an uncreated comment on Rig Veda,but who has seen it? The comment (i.e. AGNI ILE, etc.) is identical to existing comments with scientific musings thrown in. It's certainly interesting, but hardly original. On May 25, 2005, at 12:34 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: what is a partial Avatar? something like 14 carat vs 24 carat gold? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi who he claims to be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is a partial Avatar? something like 14 carat vs 24 carat He said 1/16 Avatar which I take as in 15/16ths like ordinary man and 1/16th Divine like Vishnu. 1/16th of infinity is still pretty infinite. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Maharishi is a partial Avatar and so are certain others who are alive today to save humanity and create a spiritual age, even though they may not know it. He said the H.H. The Dalai Lama was identifiable in he texts as one of these leaders. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon man, spill, what else did they say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For without that cloning the teaching is small scale and ineffective in the long-term. The TMO's initiation level is small scale and ineffective now. One of the main points brought up in this thread is that, even if the organization needs initiation fee income to maintain itself and propagate itself... isn't it much more profitable to initiate 1000 people for a $250 fee than 10 people for a $2500 fee? That assumes: 1) you can teach 1000 people; 2) there aren't other issues involved, like the wealth of the students, who might be more inclined to donate money and purchase expensive products and services from MAPI and so on. MMY has madeit very clear that he's not trying to reach the largest number of people at the moment, but rather to initiate the most influential (wealthiest), who seldom shop for luxury items at Walmart. But he HAS been initiating tens of thousands, possibly humdreds of thousands in India over the last 10 years. His goal is to teach as many as possbile, wherever and however it is possible. Right now it is easier to charge the wealthy in the West, and teach a hundredfold that number of the poor are you sure these Indian's are poor? I would imagine they are probably wealthy either by Indian standards or even otherwise in India. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Scholar question?. ...Mother Divine?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do any of the Vedic scholars here know what would be the most ancient name given for Mother Divine. I mean the actual Mother of the universe ?? (not the nuns). Maybe there is a name that appears in the Rig Veda for this? In Maharishi's Gita , I remember he gives the ages of time. He starts with Kaliyuga, and gives the length of years, then goes back through Sat Yug, then something else, maybe a day of Vishnu, and a day of Brahma, and gives the number of years, and then finally a day of Mother Divine, for which, if my memory serves me well, he said the amount of years was unknown because it is too vast to be counted. I'd really like to know the most ancient names for Mother Divine. Anyone know? The Vedic tradition does assign a time value to the life of the Divine Mother, a single one of whose lives encompasses a thousand life- spans of Lord Shiva (MMY's Gita commentary, Ch.4, v.1). It's something like 10 to the twentieth power earth years -- MMY terms the number of lives of the Divine Mother as innumerable. One name of the Divine Mother is Mahamaya, it's Maya that enables the creation to appear to start. Thanks. This is very helpful. So are you saying that the Gita says Mother Divine is 1000 lifetimes of Shiva, but that her number of lifetimes are innumerable? *** MMY's commentary on Ch 4, v. 1 says that, and obviously no limit could be placed on the lifetimes, given the infinite potencies of Brahman. Thanks!. This is a big help. Lalithambika may or may not be that oldest name but it is the most elaborate conception. If you aren't aware of Lalithambika Sahasranama rsearch that and you will learn a lot. Ammachi's org puts out a copy with Narayana Menon's commentary that is quite instructive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's true and really M.'s private sex or non-sex life is really no- ones business. It is everyones' business as he was supposed to have been required to be a lifelong celebate to receive the Siddhis. Which begs another question. Absolutely. I always thought that him dropping the title (Brahmachari) was good enough. I think he was being honest in doing so. He never dropped it, for it is not a title, it is a state. On Larry King Live in recent times, Larry asked a question about if Maharishi was ever married or anything, and Maharish said something like No, I am a brahamcharyahow do you say?... a monk...I am a monk. I have no doubt that it is easy to answer in that way when you are 88 years old. I have heard that in the Sixties or Seventies he didn't necessarily answer that question that way. And that was good enough for Larry. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free
He said if the teaching was exactly as he taught the teacher to teach then we are satisfied that that is better than not meditating at all. But don't try calling it TM or expect your initiates to be recognized by his movement such as it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 29, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Notice that MMY has never directly said that an independent teacher should stop? We have to hear exactly what MMY said, not somebody's understanding or interpretation of his words. The Briganator posted an interesting quote from a press conference which said M. knew people were doing it and that it was OK if done correctly. Pretty cool statement I remember thinking. That's right. It sure sounded like a de facto approval to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Vaj Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
Vaj http://www.shunyata.net/new/home.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India
I don't find any such post in Alt.meditation.transcendental who posted it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post recently from a.m.t: A friend of mind spent some time in India and came back with a really interesting story: the Indian initiators ask - what is your favourite god. Then, if the person says one of the 3 mantras the Indian teacher has been given (i.e. the god appropriate to one of the 3 mantras), then that's the mantra the teacher gives. If the person says some other god, then the teacher gives the first of the three. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
Swami Truthananda --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Don and I my sit at times on the opposite sides of the gusher/basher fence, but we're on the same side regarding this article. It's just dripping with sacasm and spite. Pissy piece of yellow journalism. The only thing he left out was how MMY used to steal from widows and push small children down as a child. This may represent an Opus Dei piece by a Hindu-turned-Catholic and is designed to steer Christians away from Hindu meditative movements. That's the feeling I got from the article. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Vajranatha / Guru Dev / Swami Truthananda
this guy vajranatha has been reposting trancenet stories in alt.meditation.transcendental under the nicks Guru Dev or Swami Truthananda, sometimes going to great lengths to invent a fresh narrative to reuse the same material, sometimes just obviously making stuff up himself. Uses a different persona/ m.o. for different alias' but with the same sources. Puts his comments here as Vajranatha and the honesty of various statements or claims about his intent in very different light. Possibly of the Christian variant with a touch of mania thrown in. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't M. associated Norway (or a country in that area) as the land of the pole star? You never hesitate to make stuff up do you Mike? http://www.shunyata.net/new/home.htm On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: (Though he [MMY] has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the Polar Star for the right time to come to earth.) You heard MMY say this? I doubt it very, very much. Please don't confound what MMY says with the well-intentioned B.S. that comes from Mr. Creme. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment
Vaj is just a pathalogical liar. He has posted in alt.meditation.transcendental under the aliases Swami Truthananda and Guru Dev as well as Vajranatha If you had seen that pattern of posts that will become clear to you. I would also ascribe a particular mental illness to him but there are more qualified people here in that regard who will figure that out. Check the website that he sent the Vajranatha posts from in alt.meditation.transcendental and that will give you some clue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:24 PM, sparaig wrote: Intention is intention is intention is... The fact that you don't see this speaks volumes, IMHO. Of course I see it, but I see it as disfunction, you probably imagine this as 'purity of the tradition' or something similar. IMO this is typical of conditioned thinking or the semantical programming of the TMO: 'we're unique, we're effortless, etc.' It's mincing onions in a desperate attempt to defend a positionless postion. The give away is when people read vaguely different definitions into ordinary words or phrases. Attempting to change the intention of the word work is typical. C'mon Vaj, in my case interpreting the word work in your post as meaning effort was simply because that was the way I read it. No intent to twist or massage meaning there. You posted a correction to clarify the meaning of your statement and then I understood what your original intent was. End of story, or maybe it's more like the same story. You are a smart guy and I understand the frustration smart people feel when their unpopular yet intellectually and factually sound reasoning is disagreed with on a level that indicates it was never really understood in the first place. But we are hanging out in the peanut gallery here and provocative statements are going to generate defensive replies. People or groups displaying arrogant behaviour are sooner or later going to get nailed and that is the beauty of these forums. Anyone can step forward regardless of stature or demeanor and speak the truth or at least their idea of the truth and possibly expose myths. It's great, but when someone walks in and starts telling people that their sincere practice of many years is pretty much bullshit and will never really lead them anywhere other than a nice fuzzy feeling in their head, well it's just not very attractive. Rick Carlstrom Diagnosis: Judy Stein Syndrome (JSS). Don't worry, it is curable. Stop meditating, eat meat-and-potatoes and stop reading/watching movement media for one month min. Esp. avoid anything gold gilt. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Case #001
I get a lot of involountary leg movements since 3.5 years. doing TM since 27 yrs. Uncontrollable, relieved by herbal Relora about 85% --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter, I recall similar experiences when I learned the flying stuff, and there were lots of 'involutary' vocalizations too. It is just untwisting of the nervous system. I'll occasionally get a jerking sensation these days during meditation or when lying down quietly too. The thing this fellow should know is that this is completely controllable, and by controlling himself in public or in situations where it isn't desirable to be jerking about, he will do just fine. I think when this first happens, since we are told when we learn TM to 'take it easy, take it as it comes' that everything should be allowed in the moment. Common sense is still in effect. He won't harm the speed of his evolution by controlling these spasms or whatever they are during normal waking activity. Then he can thrash around to his heart's content during program time. He may want to take a little longer lying down after TM- minimum five minutes, and as long as he needs. A lot of that jerky stuff can be smoothly resolved during that time. Hope that helps, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Frasier and everyone else, Request for diagnosis and suggested therapy (if needed) for the following case: Male aged 30. Since a few years back a regular practitioner of TM, has a few AT. Reasonably fit for his age. Recently the subject finds his body arrested by involontary convulsions (the impulse, the start, is involontary, but the subject claims he can shut it off by will). It currently happens a couple of times per day and can occur during any activity (driving a car, watching the TV, reading, walking, when about to sleep, etc). Accompanying the phenomenon is the claimed experience of the subjects 'being' (subjects choice of word) being 'drained from,' or 'pulled out of' or 'poured out from,' the physical body/nervous system. On one or two few occasions the phenomenon has included physical paralysis (inability to move limbs etc). The subject does not appear too concerned, being a TM- practitioner he believes it related to the process of continual purification and refinement of his nervous system. May the best shrink/Guru win! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: recertification course
look at his western astrological aspects- he has mercury opposition pluto --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this might sound a tad strange, but I'm beginning to believe that the TMO is run by demons and that MMY is an enlightened demon. Doesn't mean that he isn't a blazing sun of Brahman, just that he has a powerfully rajasic nature that seeks to acquire through deception and manipulation. Very strange stuff indeed. -Peter --- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether any previous post has mentioned this, since I haven't read all the messages (there are so many of them!). I am told that the fee for the recertification course, advertised at $4,000, was pumped up to $5,800 when people arrived. Something about room and board being extra. Also, the participants on this course have been told that there is no salary for these full-time TM teaching positions. So the strategy on the part of the official TM movement seems to be: say anything to get people to commit, and then make all previous statements inoperative (to use the word coined by Nixon's press secretary to avoid having to admit that the president had lied). It is hard to have respect for an organization that cannot be trusted to keep its word. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/10/05 12:58 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/10/05 12:45 AM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the possibility that you created this experience for yourself due to your overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least 99.99% of the time, let's just make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good experiences. Ditto for the rest of these guru con artists. Have you ever been with him in person - close proximity? Yes. Many times. You didn't feel or don't remember feeling the darshan? You think he's just a mere con man dressed in white robes? I had few blissful experiences the most powerful one was during a puja. I've had many many years of continuous bliss. It was pretty much from when I woke up to when I went to sleep. So the value of the teaching has been pretty much self evident, and the reward immense. Less so now probably due to a job situation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dream Knowledge-excerpt from a thesis on the Spritual Baptists
Experiences in the Spiritual world, even the journeys, can be shared by two or more persons. The fact that Spiritual Baptists do not regard or experience the Spiritual journey of the mourning ritual as an exclusively subjective phenomenon, but allow for sharing and even testing and contesting the visions, as if the Spiritual reality was objectively approachable, differentiates them from many other religions in which spirit journeys are conducted.22 When there is more than one mourner undergoing the ritual, and most times there are, it is common for them to meet one another on their journeys or even travel together. This means that two or more pilgrims find themselves in the same location, perhaps communicating with the same saint or other Spiritual entity, and also with one another. When giving their tracks to the Pointer, their accounts are similar. Mourning at the same time at St. Philomen Church, Number One, a mature lady, and Number Four, a woman in her late twenties, reached one another in India. They both gave similar accounts of the landscape, the large tree under which they met, the clothes they were wearing, what they were talking about and so on. Number One had encountered St. Francis, dressed in a brown gown, a yellow headband and a pink sash, and he told her to Eat my food, wear my clothes and commune with me. St. Francis accused Number One of having avoided him for thirty years; he also told her that he is St. Philomen's brother. 161 He gave Number One a golden ring, and Number One was a bit baffled, thinking that the Saint was proposing to her; she wanted to ask her Spiritual parents for advice, but St. Francis assured her that he was not asking her to marry him, just to take the ring. Number Four had seen Number One in a brown gown, yellow headtie and a pink sash on her neck; Number One had taught her how to dance the Indian dance, but Number Four was impatient and said Me ain't like dem dance. Finally she agreed to try it, and the two pilgrims danced together, the older teaching the younger. The mutual relations between the pilgrims are significant on these joint journeys. The senior pilgrims, those who have previous experience of the Spiritual world and who know how to communicate with the Spirit, have to take the role of a guardian for the green mourners. In another mourning in St. Philomen Church, five pilgrims were pointed on, and whereas Number One was a man who had mourned at least once before, three of the others were first-timers. Poor Number One, sighed a young labourer in the church yard, he have it real hard, he come like the Big Daddy for all of them. This meant that Number One had to look after the other pilgrims in the Spiritual world, to guide them and to protect them from evil spirits, which naturally made his own journey very demanding. In the previous example, the older of the two women, Number One, had a similar role as the Mummy for the other pilgrims. http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/hum/kultt/vk/laitinen/marching.pdf To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish and Jesus
There was a story in the Movement that some Buddhist priests came to an airport and met Maharishi as he was getting off a plane without knowing of him personally. Their astrological calculations indicated that there would be someone worth meeting ariving that day. There would be an indication in the natural zodiac (jyotish aries ascendant) of a world teacher being born. Then perhaps the best ascendant indicating the location. They might even be able to discern clues as to the name the child would have been given, properties of suroundings etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a program on NPR today about Astrology and Jesus and other things. They seemed to miss the point, since the guest acknowledged attempts to see astological signs as the 'Star' that the majii from the East followed. It is entirirlylikely that they were Jyotishes or Buddhist astrologers. Especially since scholars agree that the Vedic culture and/or some version of Jyotish was prevelant in Pakisthan and most likely some influence of it in Iran and maybe even further West. The Silk Road was in constant operation at the time, and travelling from Far East to Middle East was not uncommon. I know there are different systems and who knows which one was being used 2000 years ago, but do any of the Jyotish experts, or Buddist astrological experts here have some knowledge of what the cunjunction might have been that they followed to Isreal in order to greet the coming enlightened King/Saint (wether he actually was there or not when they got there we may never know), but are there any conjunctions that would have inspired the majii(meaning wizards/yogi's) to come all that way? The guy on the radio had it placed in about 6 AD by some Western astrological method I think. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish and Jesus
It is a very fortunate chart with the Venus, Saturn and Jupiter near to the same degree as the ascendant in their respective houses, esp if the birth is just a bit earlier, which is often the case, and these three are also the moolatrikona rulers of good houses. Also Moon, Jupiter and Venus all get strong aspects from functional benefics. On the negative side: Mercury and Mars are significantly conjunct in the 12th with Mercury as moolatrikona ruler of the 8th; and rahu conjunct Sun. Not that strongly positive at first glance for Enlightenment unless due to the aspect of Saturn as 12th ruler from 6th onto the same degree as ascendant in its own house . No analysis here provided of Nakshatra nor divisional charts. According to Vimshottari dasha he goes into Saturn-Sun from Saturn-Venus in September, which is not an improvement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8:40 a.m., zone 5.5 east, 79 E 57, 23 N 10 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi's birth data has been posted here before. If there's an interest, I could get it and post it again. on 4/11/05 3:22 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a story in the Movement that some Buddhist priests came to an airport and met Maharishi as he was getting off a plane without knowing of him personally. Their astrological calculations indicated that there would be someone worth meeting ariving that day. There would be an indication in the natural zodiac (jyotish aries ascendant) of a world teacher being born. Then perhaps the best ascendant indicating the location. They might even be able to discern clues as to the name the child would have been given, properties of suroundings etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a program on NPR today about Astrology and Jesus and other things. They seemed to miss the point, since the guest acknowledged attempts to see astological signs as the 'Star' that the majii from the East followed. It is entirirlylikely that they were Jyotishes or Buddhist astrologers. Especially since scholars agree that the Vedic culture and/or some version of Jyotish was prevelant in Pakisthan and most likely some influence of it in Iran and maybe even further West. The Silk Road was in constant operation at the time, and travelling from Far East to Middle East was not uncommon. I know there are different systems and who knows which one was being used 2000 years ago, but do any of the Jyotish experts, or Buddist astrological experts here have some knowledge of what the cunjunction might have been that they followed to Isreal in order to greet the coming enlightened King/Saint (wether he actually was there or not when they got there we may never know), but are there any conjunctions that would have inspired the majii(meaning wizards/yogi's) to come all that way? The guy on the radio had it placed in about 6 AD by some Western astrological method I think. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend , it was cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb 14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatra had a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search. (Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE INFLUENCE OF MEDITATION VS. REST ON PHYSIOLOGICAL AROUSAL
There is no definition of arousal given anywhere heart rate? gsr? oxygen consumption? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [this was forward to me today and I thought it might be of interest] Over the past 20 years there has been widespread interest in the use of meditation, with the most publicized and popular technique being TM (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 1963). It appears that many persons use meditation to reduce physiological arousal, and because of its purported effects on arousal, meditation is used to treat numerous disorders which stem from or involve hyperarousal. For example, meditation has been used to treat hypertension (Benson and Wallace 1972a; Benson et al. 1973; Blackwell et al. 1975; Michaels et al. 1976; Simon et al. 1977), asthma (Wilson et al. 1975), inflammation of the gums (Klemons 1977); drug abuse (Benson and Wallace 1972b; Shafii et al. 1974), alcohol abuse (Shafii et al. 1975), insomnia (Miskiman 1977a, b), stuttering (McIntyre et al. 1974), and a variety of psychiatric disorders (Bloomfield et al. 1975; Glucck and Stroebel 1975). Furthermore, meditation has been suggested as an alternative to progressive muscle relaxation training (Boudreau 1972). Because of the potential importance of meditation as a technique for reducing physiological arousal, in 1983 three of my students and I conducted a simple experiment in which we compared the arousal- reducing effects of meditation and rest (Holmes et al. 1983). In that experiment, 10 experienced meditators and 10 other persons who had no experience with meditation came to my laboratory for individual appointments on each of 4 days. Each subject was first asked simply to sit quietly for 5 minutes. Meditators were then asked to meditate for 20 minutes, whereas non-meditators were asked to rest for 20 minutes. Following the meditation/relaxation period, all of the subjects were again asked to simply sit quietly for another 5-minute period. The results of that experiment were very striking: meditation and rest resulted in decreases in arousal, but, contrary to what is generally expected, meditation did not result in greater reductions in arousal than did the rest. In considering these results it is important to recognize that the meditators were highly trained (certified teachers of TM and/or trained in the Sidhi type), and thus the findings could not be attributed to lack of skill on the part of the meditators. These findings raised serious questions about the effects and value of meditation. As it turned out, we were not the first investigators to compare directly the effectiveness of meditation and rest for reducing physiological arousal. In fact, an initial examination of the literature revealed a variety of similar experiments, and those experiments failed to provide any reliable evidence that meditation was more effective than simply resting for reducing physiological arousal! I was intrigued by the sharp contrast between the widely held view of the effects of meditation and the fact that there was a substantial body of evidence that meditation was not more effective than rest for reducing physiological arousal. An examination of the research that was cited by the advocates of meditation quickly revealed the basis for the widely held but apparently erroneous conclusion concerning the effects of meditation on arousal. The findings cited by the proponents of meditation were based on uncontrolled investigations in which the investigators simply compared the arousal levels of subjects before they meditated with their arousal levels during meditation. They found (as did I and my colleagues) that arousal decreased when the subjects began meditating. The problem with those investigations is that they did not include a condition in which nonmeditators simply rested, and therefore the investigators could not determine whether meditation was more effective than rest. It is of interest to know that meditation reduces arousal, but it is of more interest and importance to know whether meditation is more effective than simple rest for reducing arousal. Indeed, it is meditation's alleged incremental value that is its raison d'être. Comments and Conclusions A number of comments should be made concerning the results of the experiments in which the levels of arousal of meditating subjects were compared with the levels of arousal of resting subjects. Firstly, from Table 5.1 and the accompanying discussion, it is clear that across experiments there is not a measure of arousal on which the meditating subjects were consistently found to have reliably lower arousal than resting subjects. Indeed, the most consistent finding was that there were not reliable differences between meditating and resting subjects. Furthermore, there appear to be about as many instances in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proper spelling
It is just Hindi speakers pronouncing as in Hindi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of why Maharishi did that was to underscore that Sanskrit formalizes the general linguistic principle that consonants must be voiced, with a following vowel. By default, the vowel is a, though the other vowels can be used if specified. In this northern thing, the consonants voiced with a are left without the written a just because it's already there by default in the pronunciation. For instance, in order to pronounce yog, you have to voice a very quickly to get out the final consonant. Pronouncing yog-a, makes the a much more emphasized than it needs to be. Cardemeister, who apparently has expert credentials in Sanskrt, can probably add clarity here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the south of India (Tamil Nadu for example) they laugh about all those dropped letters as a northern thing...which by the way, is an insult. POWER of YOG So, in addition to jogging it would be good to do some yogging? (Those Hindi truncated forms of Sanskrit words make me furious! %#!?...) I thought that drop the final 'a' stuff was MMY bringing the language back in tune with Natural Law or somesuch. Your furiousness with it must be unstressing from the intense purity. Aleksanteri To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users are worshiping Saraswati which causes an emphasis on intellect. What is needed are balancing techniques. Shree is Saraswati? More commonly identified with Lakshmi. I think it is an interesting consideration though that there could be balancing techniques. What about Vishnu Sahasranama or Rudram as balancing techniques? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Simple sunsrise/sunset Yagyas instruction site
I just happened to come accross this site that has instructions for simple sunrise and/or sunset Yagyas. If the cow dung requirement seems insurmountable in your area I know it can be found in the Puja items at www.ayurveda.com the yagya site is http://www.agnihotra.org/ there is some interesting stuff there about homa and results for healing and their experiences with agriculture. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
you got the Mantras from Michel Angot? here is the page from Paul Mason website quoteing Guru Dev as saying women should replace OM in such mantras with Shree http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm#lifestory --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about Ohm. I got some mantras from one of MMY Pudits - a Professor in Sanskrit - and the instruction how to use it - and they contain Ohm. I am meditating TM of course - but when I use the Mantras with OHM, they are very powerful and blissfull - and gives a lot of energy. So when you say householders, do you only mean celebacy - or do you mean common activities in the society as well. I have a lot of common activities in society, and I do not find The Ohm mantras are any hindrance for that. Quite opposite, I think. So I was really surprised when I in this Forum, learned the Ohm- Mantras in not for women. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; OM is the first sound of creation, it contains all the energy in an undifferentiated form that is later structured by the hymns of the Vedas. So if you are living in a cave, using OM as a mantra, which aligns one with the undifferentiated, is OK, since a cave dweller does not need to function in society. But OM (used a mantra for meditation, not just the occasional use in saying a prayer or whatever) is a problem for a householder who needs to function in many differentiated ways, that's why there are householder mantras (derived from the Rig Veda). As far as ladies not using OM as a mantra, I have read a lot of Vedic literature and I don't recall any (human) ladies following the recluse path (although there were certainly some fascinating stories of ladies leading their husbands to enlightenment like Queen Cuddala does for Sikhidvaja in the Yoga Vasistha), so because the householder path is the way to go for ladies, this would lead to barring the possibility of use of OM mantra for ladies. Maharishi on sanyasi mantra (OM): http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/beacon/beacon2.shtml he mantras that suit the Sanyasis can never suit the householders. Hundreds of God-loving and God-fearing families, have been ruined due to the destructive effects of Sanyasa Mantra viz, Om. Om destroys desires and also destroys the objects of desires and therefore it produces calmness of mind and renunciation and detachment from material life only to Sanyasis when they repeat Om; to them it brings the experience of peace of mind and from this experience they generally recommend the chanting of 'Om' to their followers. But when a householder repeats Om, he experiences that as long as he is repeating 'Om' he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out to indulge in business or household work, he finds that the air is against his desire and schemes. The silencing effect on the mind and destructive effects in material life, both are experienced side by side. Some people say that we should ignore material life in regard to the devotional practices and Mantras. But this is a fool's ideology. Can you possibly ignore the considerations of material life, when the Mantras do affect it? Select a path which will make you happier in your material life also. Do not live in a fool's paradise. Do not think that your sufferings end miseries of today will work as reservations in the galleries of heaven for tomorrow. Be peaceful and happy in the present and try to make this state permanent. This is the path of Deliverance in Life Jeevan-Mukti, the most exalted state in human existence, the state of abiding Peace and Eternal Bliss. And this you are entitled to have through correct and suitable Sadhana. And because the Mantras play an important role in the field of Sadhana, you must be very very careful in the selection of the Mantra. The theory of Mantras is the theory of sound. It is most scientific and natural. Ladies should never repeat any Mantra beginning with Om. The pronounciation of Om is like fire to the ladies. This is the practical experience of many devoted ladies who repeated 'Om Namah Shivaya' or 'Om Namonarayanaya' or 'Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya' or any such mantra beginning with Om. It cannot be God's wish that you should suffer in your devotion to him. Do not cling to the unhelpful Mantras. The moment you find you have got into the wrong train, it is wise to get down from it as soon as possible. It is foolish to stick on to the wrong train and go wherever it
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, no. No it isn't an assumption it is just a lie as any honest reading of the quote of Guru Dev makes clear that you couldn't possibly honestly mistake it as applying to one woman only: aum-kara ka japa Repetition of the aum mantra Many people have not done the work of consulting the Shastras in order to determine what is authorised and what is not, they look here and there and from this they understand what they should do to engage in worship. Some people set great measure by the magnificence of the japa of aum. In Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavan certainly said that I am the pranava. But if the purpose is to attain Bhagavan's special form, then why not use the method of grasping the lion as well, since he is also that too? Bhagavan Shri Krishna Chandra said that:- mR^igaanaaM mR^igendro.ahaM [Gita ch10 v30] (Amongst beasts I am the lion). What actually happens to those who proclaim the greatness of using only aumkara ka japa, our experience up until recently we are informing, listen; 2, 4, 10, 20 times constantly repeating aum then no particular effect there will be. But if 2, 4 thousand unceasing repetitions then in a short time [the connection with] the worldly surrounding will become weak. Arsenic is a destroyer, but taking a little then the effects will not be very rapid. If some excessive dose is taken then it actually kills. Those who use the method alone of aumkara ka japa taking it to be the special form find that their worldly discipline certainly weakens; working and regular meals go into decline; wife and son etc become unhealthy and also die. Five, six years ago, we had gone to Lucknow for the occasion of Laksha Chandi Yagya. On that occasion one old woman came to us and 2, 4 people came along also. These people did say that Mataji was a great devotee, all day long she would remain in prayer and worship, but only very recently her two sons who were in the prime of life had died. To this we asked; Were you practicing aumkara ka japa? She answered to Maharaj! The very same is our portion, all day long I did do japa. We said that; well done that for your samsara (worldly life) you have dropped (aum) japa, at this moment do not renounce [the world]. However, by adherence to the practise something very excellent she will destroy, right here is the effect of aumkara ke japa. This then is done somewhere without love and if love's work is being done then the meaning and the object of love will be be annihilated by the influence of aumkara ka japa. For this [reason] grihasthom (householders) are not authorised to do aumkara ke japa alone. Shastra with a view to grant good fortune do not give authority. If there was any benefit to be derived by grihasthom by using aumkara japa there would be no reason for the shastra to prohibit. Mantras [sometimes] contain a mixture [of sounds including] aum that are given for auspicious purposes. Another thing is this that women are prohibited from practising japa with a aumkara-yukta mantra (a mantra conjoined with aum). Wherever at the beginning there is the purushha [male] mantra 'aum' then instead women should apply the sound 'shree' . Bhagavan Shankar [Lord Shiva] giving instruction to Parvati on japa explained that for women aumkara-sahita mantra ka japa [aum connected mantra] can be like poison and for happiness they should only do japa without aumkara. Due consideration should be given that Shankarji gave this information to his own wife. If aumkara is beneficial for a woman to do, why would he instruct his own wife against the practise? ['Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita' kaNa 73 of 108 translation notes] translation - Premanand 2005 As I reported here many months ago, someone had told me the story behind the Om. The basic moral of the story was that this applied to this one person in one particular case. On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:39 PM, sparaig wrote: Or perhaps you're assuming that what Gurudev said applied ONLY to that one woman... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??
I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. However this incident does support MMY's prediction that the when the support of the Yogic Flyers is withdrawn then protection is lost. It may be a small number of people injured but the impact on British society is as one person put it correctly huge. If the Maharishi Effect is correct the we all have an opportunity every day to create good karma for ourselves by just by doing our daily programme for the benefit of our communities, our countries and ultimately the whole world. Even the UK would eventually get that benefit, and maybe understanding where it came from the chances of the influence being an enduring reality are so much greater. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in compassion when we on this board are supposed to be the exponents of that particular virtue. Whoever unthinkingly - or perhaps with careful consideration - first gave this thread its name should be thoroughly ashamed ...That's me, I'm afraid. The BBC lied to us - took us as patsies. A heavy London sidha is filing a formal complaint and we'll see what happens to that. We were told by the Beeb that seven bombs went off and two people were killed and a dozen or so were injured. And they were still saying this at their 1.00pm BST news. CNN had the position correct hours before. If the figures had been right then the comment would stand But just how wrong is the statement? The bombers, almost certainly Al Qaeda, were unable to get anywhere near President Bush. He sent 2,000 advisors in about two weeks ago. Gleneagles is protected as effectively as NORAD's Mountain (there's a venue for G8) and so they settle for laying bombs to go off in tube trains *moving between stations*. Three trains involved, each carrying about 800 people. One bomb blew out a wall and got two trains (Edgware Road incident). So, four trains were involved. There were about 3,000 passengers involved. Nobody really knows what happened on the bus. Probably the damage was too great. That only 33 people have died is quite remarkable. Maharishi's advisors may hold the future of the movement in their hands. I have heard MMY's 5/11 speech described as racist. MMY should look before he leaps. Reputations built over decades can be destrioyed in as many days. His ideas of physics will not spare him the consequences of his actions. TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Vedic Yagyas...'
thanks for the link. The cost of the Yagyas there can be very sustancial. Did you ever try one there? I have done some at Ben Collins' group, www.puja.net and I did have an extraordinary experience in meditation after participation in a Yagya there. There are some very affordable options for those on low incomes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.vedbhawan.com/index.html - Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's withdrawal from the UK has had little impact on the number of initiations - there were hardly any before - nor on the numbers of yogic flyers - 99.% are still doing it in the country, Group practice at Skelmersdale same as ever? as they have nowhere else to go. So it is not a change in the critical mass for the Maharishi Effect - it was below the threshold all along. The terrorist attack was aimed at the G8 summit, that happened to be hosted here. It is an attack on all nations and an attempt to derail the efforts of the G8 to tackle issues of global - not British - concerns, such as Africa, climate change etc. I agree with someone else's comment that for those who REALLY believe the withdrawal is RESPONSIBLE for this then MMY is now a terrorist himself.. except that the plan was for France et al to OUTSHINE Britain and there is nothing positive moving there, and what positive movement there was initially in South Asia seems to have faltered rather, lately. A terrorist attack on the UK had been expected for some time - and in terms of destruction and lives lost it doesn't compare with natural disasters hitting the US regularly, in the form of earthquakes, hurricains and tornadoes... whereas we don't have those here, at least. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. However this incident does support MMY's prediction that the when the support of the Yogic Flyers is withdrawn then protection is lost. It may be a small number of people injured but the impact on British society is as one person put it correctly huge. If the Maharishi Effect is correct the we all have an opportunity every day to create good karma for ourselves by just by doing our daily programme for the benefit of our communities, our countries and ultimately the whole world. Even the UK would eventually get that benefit, and maybe understanding where it came from the chances of the influence being an enduring reality are so much greater. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in compassion when we on this board are supposed to be the exponents of that particular virtue. Whoever unthinkingly - or perhaps with careful consideration - first gave this thread its name should be thoroughly ashamed ...That's me, I'm afraid. The BBC lied to us - took us as patsies. A heavy London sidha is filing a formal complaint and we'll see what happens to that. We were told by the Beeb that seven bombs went off and two people were killed and a dozen or so were injured. And they were still saying this at their 1.00pm BST news. CNN had the position correct hours before. If the figures had been right then the comment would stand But just how wrong is the statement? The bombers, almost certainly Al Qaeda, were unable to get anywhere near President Bush. He sent 2,000 advisors in about two weeks ago. Gleneagles is protected as effectively as NORAD's Mountain (there's a venue for G8) and so they settle for laying bombs to go off in tube trains *moving between stations*. Three trains involved, each carrying about 800 people. One bomb blew out a wall and got two trains (Edgware Road incident). So, four trains were involved. There were about 3,000 passengers involved. Nobody really knows what happened on the bus. Probably the damage was too great. That only 33 people have died is quite remarkable. Maharishi's advisors may hold the future of the movement in their hands. I have heard MMY's 5/11 speech described as racist. MMY should look before he leaps. Reputations built over decades can be destrioyed in as many days. His ideas of physics will not spare him the consequences of his actions. TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid things that has ever been posted here. 37 people are killed in a bomb blast and this enhances MMY's credibility. You are a really dumb fuck, pal. Maharishi said he was withdrawing his support and this is what happened. I don't agree with the aims or methods of the terrorists and I'm sure Maharishi doesn't either. If your adult child is behaving badly so you decide to stop giving him money for a while then that doesn't make you responsible for his increased suffering for a while in the interests of his greater long term benefit. You may feel very bad for that child but in the short term it could be the best thing to do is withdraw your support. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. Torture to logic No, this applies to you only. Spoken like a true cultie. Fire and brimstone logic. What, do you think initiations will now rise in Great Britain? I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. That's because the TMO/MMY don't care about these people. It's all about the cash now, in case you haven't noticed. However this incident does support MMY's prediction that the when the support of the Yogic Flyers is withdrawn then protection is lost. You're hopeless. What a stupid belief. There is so much contradictory evidence that refutes this magic 1%, square root, Maharishi effect. It may be a small number of people injured but the impact on British society is as one person put it correctly huge. If the Maharishi Effect is correct the we all have an opportunity every day to create good karma for ourselves by just by doing our daily programme for the benefit of our communities, our countries and ultimately the whole world. Even the UK would eventually get that benefit, and maybe understanding where it came from the chances of the influence being an enduring reality are so much greater. Yes, yes, thank you for the TMO epistle. What an idiot. Go back to your ideal life in the bubbling bliss of atman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in compassion when we on this board are supposed to be the exponents of that particular virtue. Whoever unthinkingly - or perhaps with careful consideration - first gave this thread its name should be thoroughly ashamed ...That's me, I'm afraid. The BBC lied to us - took us as patsies. A heavy London sidha is filing a formal complaint and we'll see what happens to that. We were told by the Beeb that seven bombs went off and two people were killed and a dozen or so were injured. And they were still saying this at their 1.00pm BST news. CNN had the position correct hours before. If the figures had been right then the comment would stand But just how wrong is the statement? The bombers, almost certainly Al Qaeda, were unable to get anywhere near President Bush. He sent 2,000 advisors in about two weeks ago. Gleneagles is protected as effectively as NORAD's Mountain (there's a venue for G8) and so they settle for laying bombs to go off in tube trains *moving between stations*. Three trains involved, each carrying about 800 people. One bomb blew out a wall and got two trains (Edgware Road incident). So, four trains were involved. There were about 3,000 passengers involved. Nobody really knows what happened on the bus. Probably the damage was too great. That only 33 people have died is quite remarkable. Maharishi's advisors may hold the future of the movement in their hands. I have heard MMY's 5/11 speech described as racist. MMY should look before he leaps. Reputations built over decades can be destrioyed in as many days. His ideas of physics will not spare him the consequences of his actions. TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sell
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid things that has ever been posted here. 37 people are killed in a bomb blast Over 100,000 innocent civilians killed in Iraq by the U.S and U.K. and still counting, the whole country there terrorized now. Blair sent UK troops to support the invasion and he has never repented of that support and UK troops are still there. Blair gave credibility to Bush by being his number one supporter. A war based on false pretences and the UK did re-elect Blair albeit by a narrow margin. If you invade a country you are responsible for assuring the security of the citizens when you have destroyed the government they had. This is the reality of not feeding nectar to the scorpion. I care very much about the U.K. and this enhances MMY's credibility. You are a really dumb fuck, pal. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. Torture to logic No, this applies to you only. Spoken like a true cultie. Fire and brimstone logic. What, do you think initiations will now rise in Great Britain? I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. That's because the TMO/MMY don't care about these people. It's all about the cash now, I have seen posts here that have indicated that while fees from the TMO for everything are extremely high in the wealthy countries of the world, elsewhere they are not. in case you haven't noticed. However this incident does support MMY's prediction that the when the support of the Yogic Flyers is withdrawn then protection is lost. You're hopeless. What a stupid belief. There is so much contradictory evidence that refutes this magic 1%, square root, Maharishi effect. It may be a small number of people injured but the impact on British society is as one person put it correctly huge. If the Maharishi Effect is correct the we all have an opportunity every day to create good karma for ourselves by just by doing our daily programme for the benefit of our communities, our countries and ultimately the whole world. Even the UK would eventually get that benefit, and maybe understanding where it came from the chances of the influence being an enduring reality are so much greater. Yes, yes, thank you for the TMO epistle. What an idiot. Go back to your ideal life in the bubbling bliss of atman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in compassion when we on this board are supposed to be the exponents of that particular virtue. Whoever unthinkingly - or perhaps with careful consideration - first gave this thread its name should be thoroughly ashamed ...That's me, I'm afraid. The BBC lied to us - took us as patsies. A heavy London sidha is filing a formal complaint and we'll see what happens to that. We were told by the Beeb that seven bombs went off and two people were killed and a dozen or so were injured. And they were still saying this at their 1.00pm BST news. CNN had the position correct hours before. If the figures had been right then the comment would stand But just how wrong is the statement? The bombers, almost certainly Al Qaeda, were unable to get anywhere near President Bush. He sent 2,000 advisors in about two weeks ago. Gleneagles is protected as effectively as NORAD's Mountain (there's a venue for G8) and so they settle for laying bombs to go off in tube trains *moving between stations*. Three trains involved, each carrying about 800 people. One bomb blew out a wall and got two trains (Edgware Road incident). So, four trains were involved. There were about 3,000 passengers involved. Nobody really knows what happened on the bus. Probably the damage was too great. That only 33 people have died is quite remarkable. Maharishi's advisors may hold the future of the movement in their hands. I have heard MMY's 5/11 speech described as racist. MMY should look before he leaps. Reputations built over decades can be destrioyed in as many days. His ideas of physics will not spare him the consequences of his actions. TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shukra, you're a hopeless cultist I ascribe to non-TMO jyotish and Yagya so I'm not eligible to the TM cult and the worst the TMO I've never had an official position within the TMO,other than in a University club 25 years ago,which hardly is anything official. At present I wouldn't accept any responsibility within the movement. When last offered some work by the movement I ignored it. You will need to think again. offers to the world. --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid things that has ever been posted here. 37 people are killed in a bomb blast Over 100,000 innocent civilians killed in Iraq by the U.S and U.K. and still counting, the whole country there terrorized now. Blair sent UK troops to support the invasion and he has never repented of that support and UK troops are still there. Blair gave credibility to Bush by being his number one supporter. A war based on false pretences and the UK did re-elect Blair albeit by a narrow margin. If you invade a country you are responsible for assuring the security of the citizens when you have destroyed the government they had. This is the reality of not feeding nectar to the scorpion. I care very much about the U.K. and this enhances MMY's credibility. You are a really dumb fuck, pal. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. Torture to logic No, this applies to you only. Spoken like a true cultie. Fire and brimstone logic. What, do you think initiations will now rise in Great Britain? I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. That's because the TMO/MMY don't care about these people. It's all about the cash now, I have seen posts here that have indicated that while fees from the TMO for everything are extremely high in the wealthy countries of the world, elsewhere they are not. in case you haven't noticed. However this incident does support MMY's prediction that the when the support of the Yogic Flyers is withdrawn then protection is lost. You're hopeless. What a stupid belief. There is so much contradictory evidence that refutes this magic 1%, square root, Maharishi effect. It may be a small number of people injured but the impact on British society is as one person put it correctly huge. If the Maharishi Effect is correct the we all have an opportunity every day to create good karma for ourselves by just by doing our daily programme for the benefit of our communities, our countries and ultimately the whole world. Even the UK would eventually get that benefit, and maybe understanding where it came from the chances of the influence being an enduring reality are so much greater. Yes, yes, thank you for the TMO epistle. What an idiot. Go back to your ideal life in the bubbling bliss of atman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in compassion when we on this board are supposed to be the exponents of that particular virtue. Whoever unthinkingly - or perhaps with careful consideration - first gave this thread its name should be thoroughly ashamed ...That's me, I'm afraid. The BBC lied to us - took us as patsies. A heavy London sidha is filing a formal complaint and we'll see what happens to that. We were told by the Beeb that seven bombs went off and two people were killed and a dozen or so were injured. And they were still saying this at their 1.00pm BST news. CNN had the position correct hours before. If the figures had been right then the comment would stand But just how wrong is the statement? The bombers, almost certainly Al Qaeda, were unable to get anywhere near President Bush. He sent 2,000 advisors in about two weeks ago. Gleneagles is protected as effectively as NORAD's Mountain
[FairfieldLife] Indian Science page
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[FairfieldLife] Vaj tries to blame TM for his mental ilnesses'
describes himself as evangelical orthodox Catholic traditionalist Christian: http://www.shunyata.net/new/home.htm I'm an 18 year veteran of the Transcendental Meditation movement. I was recruited into this destructive cult in 1974. I'd taken a year off of college between my junior and senior years. I was dissatisfied with my major, feeling confused and without clear goals. I decided to work for a year, hoping to get my future into sharper focus. One day during my sabbatical from college, I saw a poster with Maharishi's picture on it, advertising a free introductory lecture on the stress releasing benefits of Transcendental Meditation. I attended the lecture, interested to find out if TM could supply a natural way tap into the mental potential I was convinced I wasn't taking full advantage of. I was also hoping it would help me relax. The teacher was persuasive, using charts and graphs to prove scientifically that TM increased intelligence, reduced stress, and expanded human potential. This was exactly what I wanted, and I signed up to learn the technique as soon as possible. I experienced immediate benefits from practicing the TM technique. It relaxed me, sharpened my sensory awareness, improved my memory, and gave me a deep, contented feeling I'd never experienced in my entire life. I was hooked! But I remember being disturbed when the series of follow-up lectures, required for learning the technique, involved being taught a philosophy that was foreign to me. It was presented as the absolute truth. Critical questions were answered with pat replies. I had resistance to this information about cosmic consciousness, states of enlightenment, etc. but my critical thinking mechanisms had been weakened because of the profound effect the Transcendental Meditation technique was having on me. I remember a clear point when my defenses against it suddenly crashed, and I no longer resisted absorbing the knowledge. I'd snapped. After practicing the TM technique on my own for 3 years, the TM movement came out with an advanced technique called the TM Sidhi program, or the levitation technique. It was the hottest new thing in the movement. Everyone wanted to learn how to fly. I was so eager to learn, I quit my job, packed up all my things, and moved to Fairfield, Iowa, the home of Maharishi International University (MIU). MIU is an accredited university, with the TM philosophy forming the basis for every discipline taught there. They had just started a volunteer staff program, whereby you would work for a year in exchange for getting the TM Sidhi program, which cost $3000 at the time. I jumped at the chance! I realized many years later that I'd been subjected to mind control techniques from the very beginning of my involvement in TM, but after I moved to MIU, the thought reform greatly intensified. I became so indoctrinated by the TM philosophy that my touch with reality was sharply severed. I ended up becoming extremely dependent on the TM community, living there for the next 15 years. What drew me to the group was a sense of belonging that I'd never experienced any other time in my life. I had a lifestyle and framework from which to live that was simple, upbeat, and gave my life a much needed direction. I made many good friends in Fairfield, was given opportunities to do jobs that in the real world would have required vocational training which I didn't have. But in 1984, the positive aspects of my experience in the TM community began to be overshadowed by the start of a nightmare. It began with my first mental breakdown -- a psychotic break. I had delusions of grandeur, I stopped sleeping, and acted inappropriately. I was picked up by MIU security, and committed to a state mental hospital. What I didn't realize at the time is that this would be the first of 20 psychiatric hospitalizations that I would experience while in the TM movement. I was diagnosed with manic depressive illness. The psychotic break was labeled as a manic episode. Then soon after, I began suffering from clinical depression. I was put on medication, began seeing a counselor, but continued to experience long bouts of depression and anxiety. I'd gone into the TM movement full of promise and potential. I'd always excelled at jobs, and was quickly promoted to management positions. But for the first time in my life, I was being taken aside and told that I wasn't being productive enough on the job, and was threatened with termination if I didn't improve. The mood swings continued, and eventually I was being hospitalized every 3 or 4 months. My self-confidence deteriorated. And it got so bad that for two years I had suicidal thoughts every single day. I wanted to die, but I was afraid to kill myself. Eventually I was laid off from my job, became homeless, finally moving into a seedy hotel room which I rented by the week. My life had become a shambles -- a distant cry from the
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRIs -- What state do they create in users?
Friends who have taken SSRI's have told me they do feel insulated from any unpleasantness while on them. I think if you are really depressed you should take them if you feel you need to and not endure some terrible suffering that you could avoid. All these pharmaceuticals are very bad for the environment having strange effects on fish and on up the food chain. I have had first hand reports from individuals who had their depression alieviated within two weeks with a double dose of Maharishi Ayurveda Blissful Joy tablets and using the aromatherapy. Also at www.amritaveda.com there are psychologically oriented formulas(shanti,viveka). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The only subjective reporting of relevance is that of SRRI users who have a serotonin deficiency. Do they feel tranquilized, stoned, anesthized, immune to feelings, oblivious to life's ups and downs? No, they don't. Do they feel the rawness and inflexibility symptomatic of serotonin deficincy being allleviated? Yes they do. Do they feel more natural and themsleves? Yes they do. Many years ago, pre-TM, I experienced a clinical depression. It took awhile for my therapist to get around to prescribing an antidepressant, but eventually I started taking imipramine (Tofranil). It isn't an SSRI but it functions in a similar way, increasing the accumulation of serotonin in the brain by inhibiting enzymes that would otherwise oxidize it. The only way I can describe my response is to say that after about three weeks on the drug, I began to feel more like myself (and that phrasing is the one I've always used; it wasn't suggested by what anonymousff says above). In another month, I was completely myself again, stone-cold sober, having my normal feelings. When I was depressed, I had been in an altered state of consciousness, but one that was the opposite of a high. The drug simply got rid of that altered state. In another few months I tapered off the drug (and a little later quit talk therapy) and have not suffered from depression since. (Starting TM a year or so later may have helped prevent a relapse; it's hard to say. My prognosis was that a relapse was likely.) FWIW, I had several talk therapists, none of whom was able to track down a psychological cause for the depression. It appears to have been due to a chemical imbalance, triggered by who-knows-what. It's a mystery to me to this day. All I know is, the drug took care of it. And I never for one second felt high or tranquilized or insulated from life's ups and downs. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj tries to blame TM for his mental ilnesses'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj isn't Swami Truthananda. AFAIK Vaj has never even visited FF. The story may not be accurate or true. I am claiming that Mike Croghan wrote it and that he posts here under Vaj and in alt.meditaion.transcendental as Guru Dev swami truthananda and vaj - Original Message - From: shukra69 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj tries to blame TM for his mental ilnesses' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, funny. That's not Vaj. As for the quote, I don't see it. the quoted self-descriptions are taken from his website. He wrote the text in the first-person and posted it as swami truthananda in alt.meditation.transcendental To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] a very specific Jyotish prediction-the current Discovery launch time
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[FairfieldLife] Jyotish and Satya Yuga
Though not near perfect, there would be some pretty good times available right now from a Jyotish point of view for inaugurating something like Satya Yuga. 8 out of 9 planets are neither in old age nor infancy and there is no major afflictions from Rahu or Ketu to another planet. If you felt you needed to inaugurate Satya Yuga on Guru Purnima you might not see another Guru Purnima this auspicious for a while. By the same token, there isn't any indication of anything really bad on the horizon for the world according to Jyotish right now. There may be afflictions to individuals charts or to national charts like the UK's, but in world terms pretty calm. In November and December there are harsh aspects between Saturn and Mars and Saturn and Ketu. That might be more of a test of a declaration of Satya Yuga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish and Satya Yuga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse me but I beg to differ. I would say that while Ketu is with Jupiter, it is not a good combination for most worldly matters. One could say that Ketu, being the planetary representative (karaka in sanskrit) of enlightenment it has some value spiritually. But Ketu is pretty unpredictible by nature and rarely beneficent. But this aspect is not that close right now. Add to that the current aspect from Saturn onto Sun? and you don't exactly have a combination for peace and happiness. Mars is about to move from Aries to Taurus and when he does will come into contact with that Saturn and Ketu combination That looks bad in all of December (by the 3rd house aspect) ...watch for some fireworks then and particulaly when Jupiter moves into Libra and we lose his buffer on the situation. In my opinion there is plenty on the horizon to worry about internationally. In my Jyotish practice I find that a lot of people are having a difficult time right now because the major planets are all connected in rather intense ways. bc Thank-you very much for your comment Ben. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though not near perfect, there would be some pretty good times available right now from a Jyotish point of view for inaugurating something like Satya Yuga. 8 out of 9 planets are neither in old age nor infancy and there is no major afflictions from Rahu or Ketu to another planet. If you felt you needed to inaugurate Satya Yuga on Guru Purnima you might not see another Guru Purnima this auspicious for a while. By the same token, there isn't any indication of anything really bad on the horizon for the world according to Jyotish right now. There may be afflictions to individuals charts or to national charts like the UK's, but in world terms pretty calm. In November and December there are harsh aspects between Saturn and Mars and Saturn and Ketu. That might be more of a test of a declaration of Satya Yuga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] learn the truth about TM
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[FairfieldLife] 20,000 Pundits?
Global good news reports as if there are now 20,000 pundits in the Brahmastan of India. Its really a target and the real current number is around 2,500.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Group of 20,000 Yogic Flyers in India
This is the articule that posits a plan as something already done. As some who understands the effectiveness of Maharishi's programmes, I think there are very good reasons why doing so is not a good idea. Likewise calling America Invincible when it isn't yet. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael florescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Group of 20,000 Yogic Flyers in India by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News 1 September 2007 This week it was announced that Dr Harris Kaplan, Raja (Administrator) of India for the Global Country of World Peace, has organized a group of 20,000 Yogic Flyers-20,000 Purusha*-in India. Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, recently summarized Maharishi's comments on the significance of this achievement. The announcement, made during the celebration of the first month of Global Raam Raj, was the pinnacle of the offer of Raam Raj (ideal administration) to the world, Dr Feldman said. This group of 20,000 Purusha organized by Dr Kaplan will enliven the silent level of administration which lies at the basis of the administration of the universe, explained Dr Feldman. Dr Feldman emphasized that Maharishi said during the celebration that the reign of Raam, of Brahm (Totality) has come. Purusha will reign in society. In addition, Dr Feldman reiterated the announcement that 192 Purusha have taken charge of 192 countries-one Purusha for each country. Dr Feldman noted Maharishi's words that the administration of each nation will be on the self-referral level of Brahm, Totality. Dr Feldman said that with this announcement, immediately Maharishi found fulfilment in front of him, and Maharishi said that this fulfilment will blossom for all mankind. * Purusha are men devoted to a programme designed by Maharishi for those who wish to dedicate themselves fully to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi from today
Maharishi was shown from today on Maharishi channel. He looks well. It would likely replay.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Indian state of Kerala maybe not so well off
but all that good education also makes them ABLE to get jobs abroad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/07/world/asia/07migrate.html TRIVANDRUM, India This verdant swath of southern Indian coastline is a famously good place to be poor. People in the state of Kerala live nearly as long as Americans do, on a sliver of the income. They read at nearly the same rates. With leftist governments here in the state capital spending heavily on health and schools, a generation of scholars has celebrated the Kerala model as a humane alternative to market-driven development, a vision of social equality in an unequal capitalist world. But the Kerala model is under attack, one outbound worker at a time. Plagued by chronic unemployment, more Keralites than ever work abroad, often at sun-scorched jobs in the Persian Gulf that pay about $1 an hour and keep them from their families for years. The cash flowing home now helps support nearly one Kerala resident in three. That has some local scholars rewriting the Kerala story: far from escaping capitalism, they say, this celebrated corner of the developing world is painfully dependent on it. Remittances from global capitalism are carrying the whole Kerala economy, said S. Irudaya Rajan, a demographer at the Center for Development Studies, a local research group. There would have been starvation deaths in Kerala if there had been no migration. The Kerala model is good to read about but not practically applicable to any part of the world, including Kerala. more...
[FairfieldLife] Re: yagya and jyotish testimonials
this page has taken on a rather startling transformation! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.expertvedicastrology.com/index.php?pr=Testimonials
[FairfieldLife] Re: yagya and jyotish testimonials
Thanks for your comment. I did a Yagya with the Yagyabychoice people, I did have spectacularly pleasant dreams. It was almost worth it for the dreams. Also they included me in their Mahamrityunjaya gratis as it was my birthday or some such thing, I really did feel a lot of bliss during that yagya. I had a really great meditation experience after a Yagya participation at puja.net.I didn't notice a thing during the time the Yagya was taking place with a TMO yagya I did. However did you see a concrete change in some aspect in your life that you were trying to improve? Things seemed to change in the area of life concerned concretely after a very long time with a Yagya done by the Yves Decarie group. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- No financial interest. I just sent in $715 for a Mother Divine yagya in October. The group facilitors - Ken and Janet Krumpe - act as intermediaries for transferring the $ from Hawaii to India, saving sponsors like myself from the trouble of sending the $ to India. (which I don't like since, although Western Union is reliable, they tack on a hefty fee). I realize there are a lot of Yagya skeptics and I appreciate their healthy skepticism since this will spur me on to finding some tangible evidence of the benefits of yagyas. First step is to closely observe any unusual happenings around the time of the yagya, such as 1. extraordinary instances of synchronicity, 2. visions of pundits in the dream state, or any unusual dreams 3. in general, anything out of the ordinary; OTOH this could be a contra-indication since good could simply be nothing happening at all -- as opposed to getting run over by a truck. But in this case the evidence would be lacking. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Very appealing website. Do you have any personal experience rather than posting those of others? Do you have any financial interest in this group yourself? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno tertonzeno@ wrote: http://www.expertvedicastrology.com/index.php?pr=Testimonials
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
Cordyceps is absolutely not psychoactive, it has the effect of strengthening the body. The way it would aid evolution of consciousness is by strengthening the physiology generally so that the kundalini can be generated. It you do a search on Cordyceps you will see that it isn't psychoactive at all. The other great eastern mushroom , Reishi is a more likely candidate for promoting transcendance, and the Taoists use it for this purpose. I have used both and found Reishi to be very good for TM. It does give me a side-effect sometimes though, but few people would find any side-effect from it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] mushrooms and such
looks like this sigcess product is not just Cordyceps but has Reishi as well as others (Lingchi=Reishi) http://www.alvitan.com/vcart/eshop_cmd.php?Lang=EngOperation=ShowProductSKU=1612
[FairfieldLife] Re: tumeric helps prevent brain plaque
hot dogs are not healthy food, increasing your risk of leukemia amoung other things --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/2vnc4m All you hot dog eaters have been eating health food all this time -- good ole yellow mustard contains turmeric: http://www.drgourmet.com/ingredients/mustard.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hmmm... dharma-megha?
I can't translate but I have read that dharma-megha means that the yogi also rains dharma onto the surrounding society, source was Julian Lee --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does dharma-megha-samaadhi mean? In his commentary on YS IV, Bhojadeva sez (according to some Indian site, whose URL we have lost, after downloading the devanaagarii PDF, which seems to contain some typos): prasaMkhyaanaM yaavataaM tattvaanaaM yathaakramaM vyavasthitaanaaM parasparavilakSaNasvaruupavibhaavanaM tasminsatyapyakusiidasya phalamalipsoH pratyayaantaraaNaam- anudayaatsarvaprakaaravivekhyaateH parisheSaaddharmameghaH samaadhirbhavati | prakRSTamashuklakRSNaM dharmaM parama- puruSaarthasaadhakaM mehati siñcatiiti dharmameghaH | anena prakRSThadharmasyaiva jñaanahetutvamityupapaaditaM bhavati | Attempt at sandhi-samaasa-vigraha: prasaMkhyaanam; yaavataam; tattvaanaam; yathaa-kramam; vyavasthitaanaam; paras-para-vilakSaNa-svaruupa-vibhaavanam; tasmin sati; api; akusiidasya phalam alipsoH(?) pratyaya- antaraaNaam anudayaat sarvaprakaara-vivekhyaateH(typo? viveka- khyaateH??) parisheSaat; dharmameghaH samaadhiH; bhavati | prakRSTam ashukla-kRSNam; dharma; parama- puruSa-artha-saadhakam; mehati siñcati + iti dharmameghaH | anena prakRSTha-dharmasya; eva jñaana-hetutvam iti; upapaaditam; bhavati | Haven't got much of an idea what the phuk that's all about. Anyone got a translation for that? If not, I guess I'll have to try to come up with some kind of translation... :(
