Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage
Stacy, Here's a pathology link from The University of Georgia you might find useful. http://www.vet.uga.edu/VPP/CLERK/Starnes/index.php Give me a call. Karen - Original Message - From: Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage This week I noticed Spanky's nasal passage looked swollen and red. At first I thought it was bleeding. It seemed that it just happened overnight! I took Spanky to the vet on Wed morning and she said it looks like he now has an the eosinophilic granuloma in his nose and it is swollen and half blocking the nasal passage. He has this also between his eyes and in his whiskers so it is migrating to other parts of his face. It started out as a white dot, then as his immune system became more depressed it turned into the granulomas and they keep getting larger. I started him on a topical steroid 3x a day. The cream they gave me to put on the granulomas is called tritop (neomycin sulfate isoflupredone acetate, tetracaine hydrochloride ointment.) However, I'm not sure how long we can wait to see if it works - next steps would be the steroid injection which will be dangerous for him given his lack of an immune system. Not sure if pred pill form should be tried first. I can't have his breathing blocked and do nothing. At this point he can breathe and is eating/drinking. I started him on cyproheptadine for his appetite. He's lost about 1.5 lbs since May and keeps steadily losing though he is eating. Spanky's last blood results were better or the same as before. He's FELV pos and was anemic. I have been giving him Pet-tinic 2x per day and it was able to raise his HCT to 32%. I know there is a risk if I have to give him the oral steroids ultimately on his already non-existent immune system but I have to do something as they can turn into cancer. If anyone gives oral steroids or if your kitty has had these granulomas I'd like to hear how your kitties handle it. Spanky's WBC was only 2400 last test (low of 996). It is all such a delicate balance/juggling act with the FELV/anemia/ beginning of CRF/etc. The standard treatment for the granulomas is steroids (usually the depo steroid injection). I'm just looking for any advice or recommendations - do I see a dermatologist or risk surgery (laser surgery to remove these if I can find a laser surgeon in my area)? Sorry for rambling but I'm so upset that this has to be inside his nose now! Cindi on the anemia list gave me some good links I will send to my vet as well. http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AC=189A=656S=2 http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2544 http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2003PID=6694O=Generic Thanks. Stacy and Spanky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] BOB
Am so sorry to hear about your Bobby. Sounds like he was a superb 'foster mom' to the youngsters in need. He was the teacher that they needed and had lost. The animal world is blessed to have fellows like him. His way is lighted and open to meet many wonderful, welcoming friends on the other side. Karen - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] BOB BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS THRU AND SOMEHOW ALWAYS COMES BACK . MY BOBY DIED WEDNESDAY THE 8TH. HE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR FOOD AND WHEN I FOUND HIM, HE WAS ALREADY GROWING COLD. DECIDED NOT TO DO AUTOPSY, WOULD NOT BRING HIM BACK AND WOULD ONLY MUTILATE HIM. I MISS HIM. HE WAS SUCH A GENTLE SOUL AND TOOK SUCH GOOD CARE OF THE KITTENS WHEN I BROUGHT THEM HOME. HE BATHED THEM AND TAUGHT THEM TO HUNT AND WRESTLED WITH THEM AND THEY ALL SLEPT TOGETHER. I HAVE PICTURES TO REMEMBER, BUT NOT THE SAME. HE WAS ONLY 5 AND THERE WAS NO WARNING . ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add grey and white kitten to the CLS list
All of your messages touched my heart and brought tears, as I see that there are so many other caring, loving people out there. I buried her and put the name 'Lovey' (as I had never had a cat named that) in marker on plastic over her before I filled her grave...Thanks, she deserved a name. 'Edith' my 18 year old grey and tan calico sat along side as I buried her. (She had come up on the porch when I found the kitten and was keeping her company until I found her.) Please don't condemn anyone for this kitten's situation, because someone cared enough to bring her to me to try to help her. We live in a rural area that has hit 17.9% unemployment in this economy and has over a 30% poverty rate. I do a lot of free emergency work for horses, cats, and dogs and whoever it was at least knew that I would try to save her. I just wish they would have brought her sooner or left me a note telling me how and when the trauma to her head had occurred (animal attack, vehicle, abuse, etc.) It would have given me an advantage in successful treatment. Again, thank you all so much for your kind words (they eased my pain) and caring so deeply for the wellbeing of the animals. My sincere thanks, Karen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
Stacy, The link to the Transfer Factor Plus informational site and place to order is: www.powerbod.com/2/karengriffith If you have any questions, please feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.powerbod.com/2/karengriffith (Transfer Factor informational and order site.) Website: www.karengriffith.com (Paint Horses and Paint Ponies farm site.) Email: griff...@frognet.net - Original Message - From: Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5 I am sorry to repeat myselfcould someone please send me the link for the transfactor plus site - or where you order it from? Thanks again Stacy and Spanky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Linda, FELV kitty Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 21
Claudia, I haven't been on the list lately, but saw that you were looking for a good immune booster. I have used Transfer Factor Plus Tri-Factor, with great success. I currently have 8 of the cats here on this booster and all are doing extremely well. If you have any questions about it's use and what all I have seen it do, please feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. If you want to order it, you can use my ID number and get it at manufacturer's cost and have it shipped directly to you. The phone number for the company is 888-454-3374, the ID number is 6109801. I also take Transfer Factor and so does my 85 year old mother who is in wonderful health. Please feel free to give me a call, as I feel it has made the difference in health of the FELV kitties. I also have some experience using it in combination with Immulan and have numbers for a woman who has used both together. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Linda, FELV kitty Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 21 This is for Linda Gata, I also have an FELV kitty who is 3 and liek you with your cat, she's been with me also since about Sept. '06. She was very feral, and came looking for food I guess when I used to feed some outdoor cats in the area. She was just a baby when I first saw her, but strong and could run fast. I intended on bringing her to a now-kill shelter at first, then they found she was FELV+, and there was a specific shelter I was in contact with since I have another cat who is in complete heatlh. But she became attached to me, and me to her, and I made progress with her, she wouldn't come within 5 feet of me in the beginning. I thought it could work if I just keep my 2 cats separated. My first cat, who is male, and a year and a half older was vaccinated when he was a kitten, and has received another shot and checkups since. I don't think it's as transmittable as some people think. In fact, I've read some other posts on here from people who've had FELV cats, and some of them live as long as non-FELV healthy cats, even along with other household cats not becoming positive. I was really glad and relieved to read these. But, it's important they they don't use the same litter box or food bowls, and get them regular checkups. There is an immune booster I can't remember the name of, but that I'd like to use on my cat, you said you use one on your Felv+ kitty - Can you tell me what the name is? Thanks and I hope you keep your kitty - he sounds so sweet, even more personalble than some domesticated cats. People think feral cats can't be socialized, well, I would call him rubbing his head against yours pretty social! Good luck, Claudia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 3
Have you thought about putting her on one Transfer Factor Plus per day? It increases the Natural Killer cells that fight the anemia 437% and has no side effects. It only costs about a dollar a day. It can be very helpful with FELV+ kitties. Call me at 740-992-5782 if you have any questions. Karen - Original Message - From: Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 3 Hi All, I've had my Maddie Felv+ since October of last year, the vet said she was about 2 yrs old. We had her on interferon since November and stopped giving it to her last month. ( I know thats awful :( We stopped giving it to her because it made her so tired, grumpy, and she would not eat hardly at all the 7 days on. When we skipped 2 weeks she became a completely different cat having a better appetite, and playing nonstop. Have any of you had similiar experiences? I feel terrible not giving it to her but I hate seeing her so lethargic and not eating when she's on it. Any suggestions? Thanks~~ Marci _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
I haven't been on the list for a while, but saw your post and would suggest getting some Nutrical from your vet or online and syringing 3cc 2 times per day. The B-complex vitamins in the Nutrical will help to stimulate appetite and it will also give a high levels of calories to increase energy levels and help to bring your kitty around . I would also suggest sub cutanious fluids (Lactated Ringers preferably) to replenish electrolyte levels and bodily fluid levels. You can have your vet show you how to do it if she will. (An 18 gauge needle (1 inch or 1 1/2 inch) and a drip tube will do the job.) Give about enough to have a bubble under the skin that a child's hand can cup 2 times per day until the cat starts drinking on it's own. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 - Original Message - From: G D gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away Hi everyone, Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them before leaving on Thursday). The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I syringe-fed her a wet food water slurry before rushing over to the vet where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly. Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. Thanks, Giselle _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
Mary Christine, I appreciate your questions, there are many thoughts on this issue. If you will re-read my post, I said that there were 'conflicting' studies. I was just trying to take away guilt of any loving owner that had either vaccinated or not vaccinated their positive kitties and the good or bad results that followed. Either decision can be supported. As I remember, which I do very well, the studies that were conducted many years ago (late 70's -when I was still in grad school at OSU- and when successful vaccines for FeLV were being developed , both 'live' and 'killed' (studies at that time were decreased due to lack of grant funding-remember the oil crisis and recession then, much like now), and then, the 80's and 90's at least gathered a bit of evidence with anecdotal stories to OSU from owners and past study participants with pros and cons of the 'killed' virus), and further study needs to be done, as I explicitly stated. As far as I know, there is no 'definitive info on this subject. The only way that a 'killed' virus theoretically could cause a problem is if the adjuvant with which it is carried is a problem to the recipient. These many years later I can not site specifics on the papers, heaven knows I am not aware of all of the individual cases that were gathered, but spoke with the researchers at the time. In my post, I gave thoughts, just from memory and personal experience, and my feelings on the subject as I have found, and expressed the unknowing and questions that still exist. There is much to be learned with more research dollars.I think you will see that this is what I briefly posted previously. I have included my past post that you referred to directly below, and your questions below that. I appreciate your scrutinization of my post, and compliment you on your long standing, caring, study and care of the unfortunate FELV+ kitty. Karen Griffith-740-992-5782 (If you have any questions) P.S. I have found over the years that 'symptomatic' kitties do not do well immediately after vaccination. My previous message- Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro would like to see what studies you are talking about, karen--as far as i know there haven't been any done at all re: the effects of vaccinating positive cats. there are just various schools of thought, and a mounting lot of anecdotal evidence that tends to support the possibility that vaccinating positive might actually lengthen their lives, as has been the experience of many folks on this list. most things i've seen have said not to BOTHER vaccinating positives as it's a waste of money and vaccine, NOT that it has any bad effect on them. it's a killed vaccine, so the only time i've ever seen anyone saying, don't vaccinate, it'll give the cat the virus! is from folks who say that about negatives, too, because they don't understand how vaccines work in the first place. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Laurie, Just give me a call at 740-992-5782. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form. Should I be used the Transfer Factor Nano Plus instead? She is not FeLV+ but is not a good eater. Thanks, Laurie (ps I can call if you would rather...) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.
Judy, Here is another site with more information on the immune system and Transfer Factor. If you decide to try it you can order it wholesale with the ID number I gave you and the toll free number. I like to talk to a real person when I order something, so I use the toll fee number. 888-454-3374 ID# 6109801 The link to a site I have is http://powerbod.com/2/karengriffith It has a lot of info. Hope this helps. Karen 740-992-5782 Feel free to call me if you have any questions. - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen. Karen, Your email is so appreciated, and I think that you are right about the cardiac/ pleural effusion. I was going to listen to him as soon as I got back from a run, but he's hidden where I can't reach him, until the next feeding time. I will go to the site you recommended on the Transfer Facton, and I will do the chicken liver thing when I can get to town. None available out here . I haven't started clysis, due to the fact that I don't have the solutions or the needles. I did get Pedialyte and used that to dilute the cat food slurry as of yesterday. He seems well hydrated, not jaundiced and really LOOKS good. It's surprising, and heartening. But I am still on the verge of tears all the time. I have written an email to my vet, and will have her see Wilson on her mobile rounds Wednesday, at least, maybe sooner. As I told the vet, if Wilson were a patient of mine I would at least have O2 on him and get a chest xray. Judy and Wilson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Kelly, Haven't seen any research on congenital heart defect. Have used it (Transfer Factor) with several very old cats including one of mine that died at known over 25 yrs of age. He, before TF would fill up abdominally and around lungs and heart (severe respitory distress due to fluid build up).. After 1 TF/day and no other treatment, would do fine with in 2 days, and continue to improve. Abdominal swelling gone, respitory distress alleviated, normal eating and breathing. Not saying it will help heart defect, but found it to decrease vascular inflammation and do away with the usual abdominal/lung filling of fluid associatiated with cardiac failure. After his diagnosis of cardiac, liver, kidney failure, he lived another 9 years. Keep in mind that this is just one case with no double blind control. Just my experience with TF in this situation. Karen Griffith -740-992-5782 - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen any trials with TF with feline heart disease patients? I have a kitty who has a severe congenital heart defect. She's going on 4, fingers crossed. Kelley On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.netwrote: Judy, I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I
Sharly, I agree with you that it shouldn't be used as a food replacement if the cat is eating. I just said that it is a good way to get calories, vitamins, minerals, into a totally anorexic cat. It is very hard to get a complete jar of baby food down a cat who is in such poor shape that it's swallow reflex is impared, or is hard to syringe. The high levels of B-complex vitamins in Nutrical can also improve appetite. If you will look, I said it can be, not it should be a replacement. Again I agree with you that the baby food is also a good idea. Sometimes though, 3cc twice per day is easier to accomplish to get calories, vits, mins,etc Keep up the good advise. Karen Griffith. - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I Judy, I don't want to get into a food fight with Karen but Nutri-Cal should not be used as a replacement for food. Here are the ingredients from Doctors Foster and Smith web site. Regular Nutri-Cal Ingredients: Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Malt Syrup, Cod Liver Oil, Cane Molasses, Methylcellulose, Water, Gelatin By-products, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Manganese Sulfate, Iron Peptonate, Thiamine HCl, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate (Source of Calcium and Pantothenic Acid), Magnesium Sulfate, Pyridoxine HCl, Vitamin A Palmitate D3 supplement, Potassium Iodide (Source of Iodine and Potassium), Riboflavin5, Phosphate Sodium (Source of Vitamin B2 and Phosphorus), Folic Acid and Cyancobalamin (Vitamin B12). As you can see the primary ingredient is corn oil. A much better choice for short term assistance is meat baby food. A jar of Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy has 100 calories. Try to work up to 200 calories per day with Wilson. The only way to know for sure if he is getting enough calories is to weigh him regularly on a good digital postal or baby scale. Most pate style canned foods can be blended with a little liquid and are easily syringed. My Pequita, CRF, prefers her food offered on a baby spoon. She wont eat off her plate but I am able to maintain her body wt. by offering her food several times per day on her baby spoon. Each kitty is unique. You just need to find the feeding method that works best for Wilson. May kitties will start eating on their own again once they feel better. Sharyl --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.net wrote: From: Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:58 AM Judy, It is great that you are getting some food down him. You can also syringe feed Nutrical (can get from your vet or order online, but vet would be best bet due to delay for shipping), though they usually lap it up themselves if they are not in too bad of shape. About 3cc twice/day will do wonders, and can be used for a total food replacement in totally anorexic cats. The B-complex vitamins in it will also stimulate appetite. 3cc once/day will do if they are eating anything at all (10 lb. cat). Since you are a nurse, you will also easily be able to give him sub/cutanious fluids. It is important that his fluid and electrolytes are sufficient. Lactated Ringers are better than saline, due to the extra electrolytes. About 100cc/day with an 18 g needle will help. May need to put it in 2 injection sites. As a rule of thumb, don't get a bigger bubble of fluids under the skin that a 10 year old child can cup in their hand. Wishing you good luck. Sounds like you are making progress. I just got back in the house, and will be online for a while longer. You can email me at griff...@frognet.net if you have questions. I am rural as well and on dial up. If I receive your email, I can go off-line and give you a call. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I Hi, Thanks for all your comments, especially about feeding. We had guests over for dinner tonight and I couldn't wait until they left so I could get to my computer..after I began syringe feeding Wilson. Both of us quit after about 20 ccs of cat food, but I then got on the assisted feeding site and was encouraged. Wilson actually was swallowing the syringed food rather gratefully, as long as I didn't push it too fast. My husband helped keep both me and the cat calm! So we are starting on a new thing here. Sympathy to Sharyl on the loss of Houdini...and thanks for the extra emphasis on the feeding that got me into real action. I am used to dealing with people who won't eat, not cats, and had no idea that no food for a short time can be fatal. Judy and Wilson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I
Sharyl, Sorry for the misspelling of your name, A kitty walked across the keyboard as I was checking for typos and the darn thing must have hit send. Karen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I
Judy, It is great that you are getting some food down him. You can also syringe feed Nutrical (can get from your vet or order online, but vet would be best bet due to delay for shipping), though they usually lap it up themselves if they are not in too bad of shape. About 3cc twice/day will do wonders, and can be used for a total food replacement in totally anorexic cats. The B-complex vitamins in it will also stimulate appetite. 3cc once/day will do if they are eating anything at all (10 lb. cat). Since you are a nurse, you will also easily be able to give him sub/cutanious fluids. It is important that his fluid and electrolytes are sufficient. Lactated Ringers are better than saline, due to the extra electrolytes. About 100cc/day with an 18 g needle will help. May need to put it in 2 injection sites. As a rule of thumb, don't get a bigger bubble of fluids under the skin that a 10 year old child can cup in their hand. Wishing you good luck. Sounds like you are making progress. I just got back in the house, and will be online for a while longer. You can email me at griff...@frognet.net if you have questions. I am rural as well and on dial up. If I receive your email, I can go off-line and give you a call. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I Hi, Thanks for all your comments, especially about feeding. We had guests over for dinner tonight and I couldn't wait until they left so I could get to my computer..after I began syringe feeding Wilson. Both of us quit after about 20 ccs of cat food, but I then got on the assisted feeding site and was encouraged. Wilson actually was swallowing the syringed food rather gratefully, as long as I didn't push it too fast. My husband helped keep both me and the cat calm! So we are starting on a new thing here. Sympathy to Sharyl on the loss of Houdini...and thanks for the extra emphasis on the feeding that got me into real action. I am used to dealing with people who won't eat, not cats, and had no idea that no food for a short time can be fatal. Judy and Wilson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Jane, I am in no way connected to Immulan. Personally, I feel there has not been enough control group research on the product, and not enough availability of what research there has been. Having said that, I have seen some improvement of symptoms with it's use in one of my client's cats. (She decided to give it a try on it's own with a couple of kitties, and also used it in combination with Transfer Factor Plus, where she found better results.) I myself have not used it. Will wait until it has been on the market a bit longer and see if there are side effects, etc. I am associated with 4- Life Transfer Factor, as I had used it in many situations, read over 600 research paper on it, and myself ran several trials where antibiotics and other meds didn't do the job. I found it very useful in the treatment of URI's, chronic infections, FeLV, non-healing wounds, EPM, joint-ill in foals, tumor regression, etc. After seeing it's success in these varying situations, and the amount I was using, I became a distributor. As far as feeding the cat with little to no appetite, Nutrical works very well as a food replacement and is very palatable. It is foaling season here, so am called out most every night to deliver a baby (equine), but will set down soon and write what I have found to be helpful for the FELV kitties. Karen - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith wrote: Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/ Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] One eye won't dilate
Giselle, You should probably take her in for an exam. This could be caused by a head injury from a fall, etc. (i.e.,what could have caused the head trauma or imbalance to cause such a bump), slight stroke, etc., all of which needs to have your vet take a quick look. Is she on any meds that could initiate such a response? (Very few meds will cause such a reaction.) Hope all turns out O.K. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Giselle de Grandis giselle.degran...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:06 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] One eye won't dilate This morning I noticed something strange about one of Pixie's eyes -- it won't dilate in response to light like the other eye and the pupil stays the size of a fat grain of rice. She's four years old. Does anyone know why this is happening? Does she need to see the vet? My Google searches on this topic yield some scary results. Thanks for your help. Giselle ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT
Contact me on the treatment of your felines. Send me an email at the following address. griff...@frognet.net I have no charge for my services for FeLV kitties. I just hold out great hope for the animals that I save. Karen - Original Message - From: Graca Azevedo mg4...@yahoo.com.br To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT Dear All, I was so upset with my sick cat that I did not introduce myself as new to list a few days ago. I do apologize. I am writing from Brazil, have two rescued cats. One of them is Felv+. He has been treated on AZT and interferon for 2 years and half. The virus reached his bone marrow and he has anemia. Two vets have examined him. One said that I should stop with the AZT and the other advised to continue. I failed to find on the mail archives any report on cats being treated with AZT. I would be most grateful to hear what any of you have to say. Regards, Graça Azevedo Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT
Reply to me at my personal email at griff...@frognet.net I will give you the most conclusive evidence currrently available to the public. - Original Message - From: Graca Azevedo mg4...@yahoo.com.br To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT Dear All, I was so upset with my sick cat that I did not introduce myself as new to list a few days ago. I do apologize. I am writing from Brazil, have two rescued cats. One of them is Felv+. He has been treated on AZT and interferon for 2 years and half. The virus reached his bone marrow and he has anemia. Two vets have examined him. One said that I should stop with the AZT and the other advised to continue. I failed to find on the mail archives any report on cats being treated with AZT. I would be most grateful to hear what any of you have to say. Regards, Graça Azevedo Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
Marci, I have had very good luck holistically with my FeLV kitties by using Transfer Factor Plus. It is an immune booster and is very effective. A good diet is also of great importance. If you want more information on Transfer Factor, here is a link to an informational site. www.powerbod.com/2/karengriffith There is a link to the veterinary page on the right hand side list of page links. I use the human form called Transfer Factor Plus-Tri Factor formula. If you decide to try it, I find it easier to call the toll free number and talk to a human. The company's number is on the site. In answer to your question, I have had kitties test negative after quite a long period of time post initial testing. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call at 740-992-5782. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Marci Blinn frecklescras...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 I have a cat with felv I have had her now for about 2 months, she is doing really good. After some argueing with the vet he finally agreed to put her on Interferon. They did both the Elisa and the IFA 2 mos ago and both were positive. I took her back today after the 60 days and the Elisa test came back positive again, is there any holistic treatments that any of you know about that would help me? Has anyone ever known a cat to get rid of the virus after the IFA test is positive too? Any information would be appreciated (she is also not showing any symptoms) Thank YOu _ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Both quit eating at the same time
If you can get a tube of Nutrical from your veterinarian, it will work as a food replacement until he/she figures out what is the main problem. It is designed for animals that are 'off feed'. It also has good levels of B-complex vitamins that will help to stimulate their appetite. They will usually eat it voluntarily, but if not, you can load it into a 3cc syringe and put it in their mouth. If you can get 3cc down them a couple times a day, they will be getting most of the nutrients they need. Good luck, and I hope the blood workup reveals what problems you are dealing with. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: lexingtongrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Both quit eating at the same time I have 2 cats with leukemia. They both quit eating about a weekago. I could get one jump started w/baby food. But this isn't working this time. Itookone to the vet yesterday (the one that I can touch. We left w/Calavamox, Prednisone and Cyproheptadine. He also gave Sandy a B-12 inj yesterday. But he's still not eating today. Of course the vet said bring him back before Fri. if he didn't start eating. What he did yesterday was superchem(?), CBC, Urinalysis. Any ideas about what I can do? blockquote dir=ltr style=MARGIN-RIGHT:0px; img src=http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif;font face=Comic Sans MSPaula Howell/font/blockquote ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
Jennifer, I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash. I don't get the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise. I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and Nutritionist. I have worked with many FeLV cats. I now work mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications along with the natural. I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish. If you, or your veterinarian, would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your kitty. Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you call. There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] My other contact info is following. Looking forward to speaking with you. (This invitation also goes out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.) P.S. below, please read. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Lynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New member here Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Greetings Again
Sam, I haven't checked my email for quite a while, as I am putting in hay for the horses (so sorry for the late answer). I am an animal nutritionist and physiologist and would be more than willing to speak with you over the phone about your kitties. That is much easier for me than email, as I don't get a chance to check it very often. I have had much success with multiple FeLV positive cats in the past. Give me a call at 740-992-5782 after 9pm EST. After I get the specifics of your new kitty, I can give you several targeted suggestions that have worked very well for me over the years. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Greetings Again Greetings Again, I have not been very active here since the passing of my LeLV cat Elric Whiteybone. Since then I have been active in cat rescue. Recently I have lost another cat to this disease, he came to our back porch, and rubbed between my wifes legs. He was more than friendly, but he had a full mucus mustache on his face. He tested positive for LeLV but not FIV, the respiratory infection which was giving him his mucus mustache did not respond to any of the 5+ antibiotics we used on him. We named him Gio short for Giovanni. With in two weeks the disease did it work on his body along with the respiratory infection. On a Saturday we took him to our Rescue Groups Veterinarian. We got there way early and were able to spend over an hour with him there. When the Veterinarian got there, she asked if this was our kitty or a rescue kitty. We responded he was a rescue kitty and that we were staying with him while his time came. So while the Veterinarian gave him the meds to ease his passing, my wife and I were holding and touching him. We both felt him relax then go totally limp. After a bit the Vet listened for his heart, and said he was gone. We spent another 15 minutes with him. Later the Vet came in and asked what we wanted to do with Gio's body. We replied that we already had place dug for him in our back yard by our porch and the catnip bush that grew nearby. She seemed taken a back that we were doing this for a rescue kitty. I believe she got her eyes opened about those that rescue cats/kitties. We took him home and placed him in the spot we prepared for him. We have been putting food out of the strays in our neighborhood, getting them snipped and returned. We recently heard a sound while we were eating breakfast coming from our back patio. It sounded like two male cats squaring off to fight. When we looked it was a single domestic short haired Gray male cat. We named him Gus as in Grumpy Gus. He was at first a bit shy, but later became much easier to handle. We spoke to our rescue group about him, offered to foster him, they said they would pay for his testing and snipping if we fostered him. Well the news from the testing was not good, it was the SNAP test and by that test he was positive for LeLV. We have him in a separate bedroom where he gets his love and food. I am wondering if any here have any experience with the various immune system enhancing drugs/compounds. I want to boost his immune system so he has a chance to throw off the infection prior to his next series of tests. As of right now he has no symptoms of any disease. Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hobbs, 1 Yr. old FELV, crashing hard
Heather, Give me a call at 740-992-5782. I am a graduate of Ohio State University. An Animal Scientist with over 34 years of experience. I will help you with any information I possibly can. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Heather Wienker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Hobbs, 1 Yr. old FELV, crashing hard Hello, I first joined this group a year ago in regards to a double-positive Mom and her kittens. All kittens cleared FIV, remained + for Leuk. Only the two who stayed together remain, and one has crashed hard. I am not his caretaker but what I know is, he had a dental a little over a month ago due to stomatitis (lots of drooling mouth pain). That went well, then a few days ago he crashed very hard, not eating, not drinking, crying in pain...losing weight rapidly. He is to go to the vet today, but has anyone pulled a Leukemia+ kitty through a serious crash? We are looking into Imulan but right now the caregiver fears he is suffering and can't wait for treatment. We don't want him to die on IV's in a hospital. His little Sister is very close to him, we always thought she'd go first as she's so much more fragile, we are so scared of not just losing this precious kitty, but also how it will affect his Sister. Hobbs' caretaker loves him very, very much and the prospect of losing him is very painful for her. Any suggestions are appreciated, thank you for listening- Heather
Re: Hobbs, 1 Yr. old FELV, crashing hard
Heather, I forgot to mention I have myself pulled over 15 cats successfully through crashes and helped many other individuals through multiple crisis. Karen - Original Message - From: Heather Wienker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Hobbs, 1 Yr. old FELV, crashing hard Hello, I first joined this group a year ago in regards to a double-positive Mom and her kittens. All kittens cleared FIV, remained + for Leuk. Only the two who stayed together remain, and one has crashed hard. I am not his caretaker but what I know is, he had a dental a little over a month ago due to stomatitis (lots of drooling mouth pain). That went well, then a few days ago he crashed very hard, not eating, not drinking, crying in pain...losing weight rapidly. He is to go to the vet today, but has anyone pulled a Leukemia+ kitty through a serious crash? We are looking into Imulan but right now the caregiver fears he is suffering and can't wait for treatment. We don't want him to die on IV's in a hospital. His little Sister is very close to him, we always thought she'd go first as she's so much more fragile, we are so scared of not just losing this precious kitty, but also how it will affect his Sister. Hobbs' caretaker loves him very, very much and the prospect of losing him is very painful for her. Any suggestions are appreciated, thank you for listening- Heather
Re: more questions and thankyou
As was mentioned by Lance, You can go to the following website that is an informational website for 4-Life and Transfer Factor. It is www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith If you have any questions, you can call 740-992-5782. It is best to contact Karen are after 9 pm. EST. It is OK to call her up until 11 pm EST. She is an Animal Scientist with a specialty in Nutrition and Physiology. Call her any time you need help. If you need help with your FeLV kitties, give her a call as to nutritional, etc help. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: whocares whocares To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:03 AM Subject: RE: more questions and thankyou Hi, Firstly, thankyou to everyone who responded and for the advice thusfar. Milli's diahrea is getting better with Neorase and probiotics, etc.. I've gotten 5 of the 7 new ones tested and they've all come back FeLV+. 5 are housed together and the other 2 are each in their own rooms. I have 8 immune challenged cats of my own (some of which are permanent fosters) and am a little worried now. What precautions do I have to take? Is FeLV extremely contagious? My dishwasher has a sani cycle which I've been using. Does sanitizing kill the virus? Is it easily spread on clothes? How close does the contact have to be between cats? How long does the virus live outside the body? Lance, how much DMG do you give? I have some for my HCM kitty. I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Does anyone know where I can get Transfer Factor? No naturpath, etc. here seems to have heard of it. I'm way over my head here. Please give me as much advice (even if it sounds simple) as you can. Thanks El --
Re: more questions and thankyou
El. You can use my Distributor number to order Transfer Factor. Call the company directly at the 800 number at 888-454-3374 and use my distributor number 6109801 to order your Transfer Factor. Order the Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor (That is the human formula) I have found that it is the best for FeLV cats.) If you have any questions, you can call me at home at 740-992-5782. I will be more than willing to speak with you about the health of your cats and kittens. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: whocares whocares To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:03 AM Subject: RE: more questions and thankyou Hi, Firstly, thankyou to everyone who responded and for the advice thusfar. Milli's diahrea is getting better with Neorase and probiotics, etc.. I've gotten 5 of the 7 new ones tested and they've all come back FeLV+. 5 are housed together and the other 2 are each in their own rooms. I have 8 immune challenged cats of my own (some of which are permanent fosters) and am a little worried now. What precautions do I have to take? Is FeLV extremely contagious? My dishwasher has a sani cycle which I've been using. Does sanitizing kill the virus? Is it easily spread on clothes? How close does the contact have to be between cats? How long does the virus live outside the body? Lance, how much DMG do you give? I have some for my HCM kitty. I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Does anyone know where I can get Transfer Factor? No naturpath, etc. here seems to have heard of it. I'm way over my head here. Please give me as much advice (even if it sounds simple) as you can. Thanks El --
Re: more questions and thankyou
El, I'm now home, and received your message. I have been trying to call you, but keep getting a busy signal. Thought you might be online. Will continue to try to reach you. If you get this message, give me a call at 740-992-5782. Speak with you soon. Karen
Re: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli
Lynne, Don't be so 'down'. I've seen cases like yours have a very happy ending and a very long life for your baby. Give me a call... Karen - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:14 PM Subject: Re: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli Thanl you Marylyn. I sometimes feel I am being a big whiner here. So many of you have dealt with far worse issues than I have and I do need to give my self a reality check and just get on with the living part. At this very point in time I simply cannot envision not having him around. I know this will not have a happy ending but I will do everything I can to make his life peaceful and enjoyable. We both just love him to pieces. - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli It is so hard. I hope you have the luck I have had with Dixie. If you need to just vent and can figure out how to email me directly, please feel free. Again, don't let your frustration, anger, grief and all those other very understandable emotions, emotions we have all felt, cheat you of all the wonderful time you have with him. The time may be long or short but it is a very special time for you all. On Feb 24, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Lynne wrote: The new one today said we'd talk about it again after we got his cytology report back Marylyn. His primary care giver was the one who told my husband it would do him no good now. We aren't giving up on anything where this boy is concerned. This has just been a bad day for me. They took fluid from both sides of his chest today and he's lost a pound in less than a week. That may have been the fluid. He looks kind of pitiful with big chunks of his hair shaved away on both sides. I'm very upbeat when I go upstairs to see him but I'm near tears the rest of the time. I still don't think I have accepted this. Tomorrow will be another day, however. We did raise his dish today, actually just put it on a book and it just seems more comfortable for him to eat that way. Bob and I do manage to get a laugh every now and then with some of the ridiculous things we come up with to make him comfortable. The cat must think we're nuts. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Re: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli Lynne, Please check with another vet re the interferon. Vets have very different ideas on how and when to use it. Second opinions don't hurt anything. On Feb 24, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Lynne wrote: El, I am too new to this to give advice but I am sure you will be receiving many replies shortly by many knowledgeable people on this group. It sounds to me that you are doing every thing possible for these animals that can benefit them. The fact that your girl is around 8 years old may be an encouraging sign. Maybe the antibiotics are contributing to her diarrhea? and it is a temporary thing? I can't imagine what more you can do for her. She obviously seems happy which is a really important thing and of course it is necessary to keep yours isolated from the others. You'll need to ask your vet about the interferon. It could be useful. Apparently it has shown some favorable results. If I had that option now I would definitely try it but it's too late for my boy according to the vet. Sorry I can't be of help, I so admire you for what you have done for these animals. I'm sure others will come forward as soon as they see your email. Best of luck Lynne - Original Message - From: whocares whocares To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, This is my first post so please bear with me. I'm posting this through email. If there's a more efficient way please let me know. 2 weeks ago I took in 7 filthy, reeking, matted, very, very ill cats from a horrific shelter in the area. All were emaciated, dehydrated, infected eyes, URI's, ear mites/infections, severe diahrea, etc.. My vet didn't think they'd make it through the first night but here they are getting healthier by the day. Some still need injectable antibiotic combos daily but they are improving. One of these had severe gingivitis - very infected teeth that had to be dealt quickly. She survived the anaesthetic and had all except 4 teeth removed (her canines were sticking sideways out of her mouth they were so infected). She had a blood panel done and she tested
Re: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli
El, I have been following this list for some time now, and find that there are great people here with excellent information. I give great thanks to the people on this list for their dedication to saving the unwanted'. (I myself currently have 14 cats that have found a home here.) All of which I have spayed/neutered and brought back to health. I have a website on Transfer Factor that you can go to and get a great amount of information. It is www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith There are several brands of Transfer Factor, but this is the type that I have found that has the most extensive research behind it as well as the most beneficial effects on FeLV cats. You can read the information on what Transfer Factor does on the first page, and then you can go to the page for Veterinary Medicine and Transfer Factor. It has a lot of info on the immune supporting capabilities of Transfer Factor. Colostrum is very good as a supplement, but the Transfer Factor is more targeted. It takes close to 60 colostrum pills to equal the immune benefits of one Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor. I would also encourage you to read the page for Treating Chronically Ill Patients, as it will give you an idea of the benefits to humansThis helped me to more readily understand the benefits to our animals. If you have any questions on nutrition or care for you kitties, you are more than welcome to call me at 740-992-5782. This goes for anyone on the list. I certainly don't have all of the answers (as does anyone with this aggravating disease), but hopefully can help to guide you, along with your veterinarians, to a successful outcome on your new babies. I am also willing to speak with your veterinarians, if you so wish. I have a passion for saving these FeLV cats that are most often sentenced to death. They can, in most cases, live a long happy life. The type of Transfer Factor I use for FeLV kitties is the human form. If your decide to order from the company, order the Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor. I just use one pill a day unless there is a major crisis and then may use two. Only once in the most severe of cases have I used 2/day. I have found the human formula much more effective than the feline formula. The wonderful thing is that here are no adverse side effects and it will help with many of the other problems found in FeLV. I am an Animal Scientist (Ohio State University) with a specialty in animal nutrition and physiology. I am always willing to speak with anyone on the list about their sweet babies that are having problems. It is easiest to reach me after 9pm EST. (I have a very slow internet connection (rural area), so it is best to call me.) Looking forward to speaking with you if you have any questions. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: whocares whocares To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: new member with FeLV+ foster kitty Milli To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, This is my first post so please bear with me. I'm posting this through email. If there's a more efficient way please let me know. 2 weeks ago I took in 7 filthy, reeking, matted, very, very ill cats from a horrific shelter in the area. All were emaciated, dehydrated, infected eyes, URI's, ear mites/infections, severe diahrea, etc.. My vet didn't think they'd make it through the first night but here they are getting healthier by the day. Some still need injectable antibiotic combos daily but they are improving. One of these had severe gingivitis - very infected teeth that had to be dealt quickly. She survived the anaesthetic and had all except 4 teeth removed (her canines were sticking sideways out of her mouth they were so infected). She had a blood panel done and she tested positive for FeLV. Her other levels correlate with the positive diagnosis. She may be up to 8 yrs old? She has a severe URI which is improving. However, she has terrible diahrea. She is on a daily injectable antibiotic combo and also gets injectable B12 and injectable B complex. I have her on probiotics and Standard Process Whole Body Support. I have Collostrum. Do you recommend it and how much should I give her? She's tiny and fragile - 4 - 5 lbs now. Do you recommend Interferon? What else can I give her? She is isolated in a very large sunny warm bathroom and very happy and very active (even a bit hyper). She has gone from NASTY cat in the beginning to sweet cuddly lap cat now. Two of the others have been tested (awaiting results) and the other 4 will have blood panels this week. Some of these new cats are isolated together and some are isolated alone. My own cats and other permanent fosters I have are fragile and don't get vaxed - can't due to auto immune diseases, severe HCM
Re: breathing
Lynne, Give me a call at my home number 740-992-5782. I am an animal scientist with a specialty in physiology and nutrition. I have dealt with many FeLV cases (with much success) and have some suggestions. Looking forward to speaking with you and hoping for Boo Boo's complete recovery. If he is still purring and rolling over to be petted, he still has a good chance of recovery. Karen - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: breathing BooBoo is getting worse. I called the vet this morning and he answered the phone and told us to bring him in. He told me he felt it was the anemia getting worse and sadly this sounds like he's at the end stage of this disease. I have to go to work so I just spent some time with him. He's still gasping for air, mouth breathing but was purring and rolled over to be petted. Bob has to take him to the vet and I've instructed him to tell Dr. Gill to treat this if at all possible. I don't care what he has to do. If there is at all a chance he can recover from this setback I want measures taken. I absolutely hate the fact that I can't be home today. Lynne
Transfer Factor
Susan, I have worked with many positive FELV cats and use Transfer Factor Plus on them all. I purchased a dealership for the product, and you can order directly from the website at my dealer cost. I usually order by telephone from the manufacturer. You can do the same by calling 1-888-454-3374. My dealer number is 6109801. They are wonderful about getting to product to you promptly. If you would like to have me set you up as a customer, I can do so, or you can order directly using my dealer number. I have an informational web site on Transfer Factor. It may answer many of your questions. The address for the site is: http://www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith You can also order from the site. Personally I like to call the toll free number and talk to a human. You can just tell them my Distributor ID - 6109801, use your credit card, and give them your mailing address. If you have any questions, Please feel free to give me a call. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Re: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question
Susan, I have worked with many positive FELV cats and use Transfer Factor Plus on them all. I purchased a dealership for the product, and you can order directly from the website at my dealer cost. I usually order by telephone from the manufacturer. You can do the same by calling 1-888-454-3374. My dealer number is 6109801. They are wonderful about getting to product to you promptly. If you would like to have me set you up as a customer, I can do so, or you can order directly using my dealer number. I have an informational web site on Transfer Factor. It may answer many of your questions. The address for the site is: http://www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith You can also order from the site. Personally I like to call the toll free number and talk to a human. You can just tell them my Distributor ID - 6109801, use your credit card, and give them your mailing address. If you have any questions, Please feel free to give me a call. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Re: Cindy Smokey
Cindy, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I can tell from your email that your precious boy was loved and knew he was in his Momma's arms. Elvis had a great time on this earth with a loving friend like you. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Cindy Smokey I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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