Re: [Finale] Master Tool Palette
Stig Christensen wrote: Hello, I am trying to make the jump from Finale on Windows to Finale on Mac, but I can't launch the Master Tool Palette although I Command-click anywhere on the screen as the manual wants me to. Can anyone help? regards Stig Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4539902526/+4526212425 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale i asume you refer to the main tool palette, if this is the case you simply go to the window menue and select it. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Master Tool Palette
Stig Christensen wrote: Hello, I am trying to make the jump from Finale on Windows to Finale on Mac, but I can't launch the Master Tool Palette although I Command-click anywhere on the screen as the manual wants me to. Can anyone help? regards Stig Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4539902526/+4526212425 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale i apologize for my previous reply. it's the combination of the control-option-command keys what triggers this window. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Play score from earlier version
Will Denayer wrote: Hello All, A colleague sent me a MUS.file of something he has written and, indeed, I can open it with my Finale (2007) and read the score, but it will not play it. When I try to play the piece, a message appears saying that the file has been written using an earlier version of Finale and that I need to install a plug-in in order to be able to play the piece. Where can I find such a plug-in and how can I install it? I am sorry for asking something basic again, but I do not know the answer to this question, indeed, I am not sure that I know what a plug-in is ... With best regards, Will Denayer, Ireland Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale have you tried reloading the instruments? GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Adobe Distiller Problems
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 04.11.2006 Godofredo Romero wrote: one way to avoid this is by first saving the document as an .eps and then use the distiller to convert it. Well, it is impossible to save this file as one EPS since it has quite a number of pages. I did try to save as PS and Distill, with exactly the same result. Johannes yes, you would have to save page per page, which is a pain. i have done this. i'm sorry i couldn't be of much help. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Adobe Distiller Problems
Johannes Gebauer wrote: I recently bought Adobe Distiller. I was previously using PStill or the MacOS built in PDF support. Surprisingly I have never ever had as many PDF problems before as I am now having with Adobe Distilled files. The main problem is random missing characters from the Maestro font (they are replaced by a rectangle character), but only when printing (on a non-postscript printer). The problems do not show on screen. Does anyone know where the problem is, and what can be done about it? I have gone back to PStill for the moment, but I would at least like to know where the problem lies. Johannes one way to avoid this is by first saving the document as an .eps and then use the distiller to convert it. GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] oddity in bar numbering
Mac Fin 2007 i opened a file i had done in Fin 2004 and find an odd behavior in the numbering of bars in page 52 i have four bars - as in the rest of the score- that go 205-206-207-208 then when i turn to the next page -53- the bar numbering starts at 208 instead of 209 what am i doing wrong and how do i go about solving this ? thank you all GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] oddity in bar numbering
I did what you say but doesn't change anything. any other suggestion? thank you for your concern GR dc wrote: Godofredo Romero écrit: i opened a file i had done in Fin 2004 and find an odd behavior in the numbering of bars in page 52 i have four bars - as in the rest of the score- that go 205-206-207-208 then when i turn to the next page -53- the bar numbering starts at 208 instead of 209 what am i doing wrong and how do i go about solving this ? Go to the measure attributes dialogue and tick include in measure numbering. But don't ask me how it got unticked! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] oddity in bar numbering
i was haste in answering your post , and i apologize i started to review what i had done before the oddity showed up and found that in the previous page with numbers 205 through 208 i had used the measure tool to put a double line in measure 207 where there is a poco meno indication and had unchecked the include in measure numbering. all is normal again. thank you GR dc wrote: Godofredo Romero écrit: i opened a file i had done in Fin 2004 and find an odd behavior in the numbering of bars in page 52 i have four bars - as in the rest of the score- that go 205-206-207-208 then when i turn to the next page -53- the bar numbering starts at 208 instead of 209 what am i doing wrong and how do i go about solving this ? Go to the measure attributes dialogue and tick include in measure numbering. But don't ask me how it got unticked! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] F2007 bug: program options/view
i'm on Mac and is ok why don't you try repair permissions? GR shirling neueweise wrote: can anyone else confirm this? go to prog options, click on any of the left items, the appropriate dialogue box appears on the right. scroll through the items using the mouse, as the cursor moves through the list, the appropriate box appears... except for View. i'm on mac. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two
the link to that page seems to be wrong, cant be opened. please fix that and i'll be glad to give it a try. GR Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout from page 1 and sending it back to me? I'll be working in scroll view from now (back to the middele ages) and in the mean time try to find a solution. Maybe I'll have to reinstall Finale, who knows. Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] quartertone accidentals
perhaps this could be of some help, if not, i apologise http://tonalsoft.com/enc/q/qt-staff.aspx gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: I may have to enter my very first quarter tone piece soon. What is the best way to deal with quartertone accidentals? I have never done this before, so I will need some very basic advice... Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac PDKTools
maybe this could help http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52653/Finale/pdktools.html you can download what you need from this adress. hope this is what you are looking for. gr Darcy James Argue wrote: I've downloaded and installed the latest version of TGTools, but the JW plugins (Mac) say they require PDKTools and won't run. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 20 Sep 2006, at 4:06 AM, dc wrote: Darcy James Argue écrit: Where can one download the latest version of Mac PDKTools? I think the only way to get it is to download the latest version of TGTools that has it bundled within. Or else have someone send it to you. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac PDKTools
dc wrote: Godofredo Romero écrit: hope this is what you are looking for. Darcy was looking for the latest version. Jari's site has: July 31, 2002: New version - 2.10 released! Over four years old... Dennis sorry gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Booklet Printing for 28 pages
Brad Nelson wrote: Trying to print 28 pages back-to-back - In Finale 2005, I could enter enough numbers in the Page Ranges box (2-up box selected) to print a 28 page score (i.e. 28,1,26,3,24,5,22,7,20,9,18,11,16,13). In 2006, the Page Ranges box will not accept the last three numbers. How am I supposed to booklet print a 28 page score in 2006? I have wasted a lot of paper messing with FinaleScript/Print Booklet method, but it is about as easy to understand and master as Einstein's most complex theorems!! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I find this simpler by making a pdf from the file and then usin the cocoa booklet http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/cocoabooklet/ gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] I need help, quick
Skip Lombardi wrote: I hope someone is reading this list now. I'm trying to extract parts for a big-band rehearsal this evening, and I'm getting an error message, "Cannot create file name' for three parts in which I have saxes playing either flutes or clarinet. I've done this before, so I don't get it. I've indicated on the score, 'Transpose for flute, or Bb clarinet, etc., but Finale 2005 is simply griping when it encounters those parts. Does anyone have a clue what's going on? It's simply those three parts where the two altos play flute, and the second tenor plays clarinet. Help!!! Best regards, Skip Lombardi -- Skip Lombardi 16 Riverview Avenue Noank, CT 06340 860.961.3631 http://skiplombardi.org/blog ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I faced this anomaly once and solved it by entering the parts names in upper case. I've also found that this problem arises when and if one erases the numbering finale assigns to the parts. hope this helps. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Triplets question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In my current arranging project, I'm in 4/4, and have some bars where I need quarter-note-triplets filling the bars (6 beats per bar), but... the first 2 beats of each triplet are a half-note. I can't seem to get Finale to accept that. Any help? (I want to stay in 4/4, not be in 6/4.) I'm on a Mac G3, OS 9.2.2, running Finale 2003a. thanks, Steve S NYC ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale in speedy entry press option+1 - this will open the tuplets window- tell finale to enter 6 quarter notes in place of 4 quarter notes, enter one half-note one quarter note-one half note- one quarter note, thats it. should you need or want to indicate two separate tuplets go to appearance and select nothing in number and bracket and once you are back in your score type the tuplets indication on top of each two note tuplet - one half and one quarter note- via expression tool, otherwise you'll get a sextuple indication of the notes. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] on midi files and logic 7
hi all for some time now i have being experimenting on different ways to produce the best possible recordings or top quality sound files from my finale files, i am starting to get my hands on Logic Express 7 and have imported and opened midi files saved from my finale scores but even though i am following the logic manual step by step i can't get my finale-midi files to produce any sound. any help here will be appreciated. thank you gr Mac G5 Finale 2006 GPO complete ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] orchestra parts
straight. gr Lee Actor wrote: Is this a straight long-throw, or a saddle stapler? -Lee Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Lee Actor wrote: Now if I can just find a long-throw stapler that produces staples with flat legs instead of curved... If you ever find one, let me know where, I need one desperately... Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] orchestra parts
the flatness or curveness depends on the length of the staples and the quality of the wire used to manufacture them, on the outside of the box of the Swingline there is a recommendation as to which staples to use. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Godofredo Romero wrote: Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. Does it produce flat or curved legs? I have a long-arm stapler, which works ok, but they all produce curved legs as far as I know. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] orchestra parts
Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Lee Actor wrote: Now if I can just find a long-throw stapler that produces staples with flat legs instead of curved... If you ever find one, let me know where, I need one desperately... Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT hard drive question
you can start your G3 from a CD - such as the one that comes with the computer or one that you prepare to use as star-up disc- but you can't boot from an external hard drive. gr Lawrence David Eden wrote: To the OSX Mavens on the List: I want to boot my G3 iMac from my external USB drive. I was able to install OS9 on the external drive, but I can't install OSX. The installer program on my OSX CD says that I can't boot from the external drive. Is this because the drive is USB or is there another reason? Thanks, Larry Eden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] problem trying to make audio files
i am trying to make audio files from a series of parts and score and get the following message could not create the audio file (the file may be in use by another application).¿? what am i doing wrong, aside from trying to walk and breathe at the same time? gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] problem trying to make audio files
what i did was change the names from lower to upper case and that does it. thank you very much, now i can go back to breathing again - my face was already turning from a deep blue to an ugly violet... :-[ gr dhbailey wrote: Godofredo Romero wrote: i am trying to make audio files from a series of parts and score and get the following message could not create the audio file (the file may be in use by another application).¿? what am i doing wrong, aside from trying to walk and breathe at the same time? The target file name may already be in use. Try a different target file name? That error message usually occurs when for some reason what should be clearly different file names end up being the same for some reason. Perhaps if you shorten the original file name? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience
yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's session, when i was about to make the routine backups of my work, all but three bars of a 101 bars piece, were gone, disappeared, blank, erased, non existent, banished... no matter what i did or tried to do brought back what i had input into the part... this isn't the first time something like this happens to me. some three months ago i was working on a score and somewhere after a lunch brake, when i reopened it to continue my work i found that the last ten or twelve pages i had worked on had disappeared, at that time i didn't report this because i really had serious doubts of my mental sanity, i said to my self calm down, this didn't really happened, you just dreamed that you had worked in the score and that you had input those pages... but now, after yesterday's experience i have regained confidence in myself i tossed away my tricorn hat, pulled my hand out of my vest and continue with my work... this is what i use to do my work: Mac G5 with 4 GB ram Finale 2006 GPO Three hard drives, internal and external where i make two backups of what i do and keep in the main hard drive. i have developed the working habit of saving almost every time i make an entry and disabled the make backups when saving files option from finale because i don't trust it and blame it for being somewhat the culprit of the dreaded overwrite bug. my experience with finale dates back to version 3000. well i just thought i'd shared this with the list members... gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience
i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today but luckily i have a backup. what i decided to do now is to save as to a different hard drive every four bars. i am starting to suspect that this odd behavior has to do somehow with the way de document is configured which confuses finale into think that nothing is input gr Don Hart wrote: Is this the "File Overwrite" bug (which I've never experienced) or is this the "Scary" bug which I reported last fall, which indeed, scared me into continuing to use 2005 until about two months ago. I've heard that the bug I reported (along with Darcy and Javier Ruiz) was fixed in, I believe, 2006c. I thought the "File Overwrite" bug occurred when multiple files were open at one time. The "Scary" bug struck (nearly wiped clean) a file I had orchestrated after I deleted the contents of a guide piano part. As far as I could tell, it had nothing to do with the "File Overwrite" bug. I posted a little more about it last fall: I was able to go to the backup copy made when I last saved and was fortunate enough to lose virtually nothing. (because when I first noticed the lost data I made sure I didn't hit command s, and save the problem) I found no way to retrieve the lost data in my original file. The undos I did trying to rectify the problem (immediately after I noticed it) went up to and beyond the point in time the problem occurred and never brought back the stricken data. So, Godofredo, this begs the following questions: which version of 2006 for the mac are you using, and from my limited description of these two bugs, does either seem to describe your problem? I suppose that if you don't have 2006c you should probably download and install that free update. I guess there's also a "d" update addressing some mac-intel issues; that's not a worry for me yet. Don Hart on 5/30/06 10:39 AM, Christopher Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 28, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's session, when i was about to make the routine backups of my work, all but three bars of a 101 bars piece, were gone, disappeared, blank, erased, non existent, banished... no matter what i did or tried to do brought back what i had input into the part... this isn't the first time something like this happens to me. some three months ago i was working on a score and somewhere after a lunch brake, when i reopened it to continue my work i found that the last ten or twelve pages i had worked on had disappeared, at that time i didn't report this because i really had serious doubts of my mental sanity, i said to my self " calm down, this didn't really happened, you just dreamed that you had worked in the score and that you had input those pages..." but now, after yesterday's experience i have regained confidence in myself i tossed away my tricorn hat, pulled my hand out of my vest and continue with my work... this is what i use to do my work: Mac G5 with 4 GB ram Finale 2006 GPO Three hard drives, internal and external where i make two backups of what i do and keep in the main hard drive. i have developed the working habit of saving almost every time i make an entry and disabled the "make backups when saving files" option from finale because i don't trust it and blame it for being somewhat the culprit of the dreaded overwrite bug. my experience with finale dates back to version 3000. well i just thought i'd shared this with the list members... gr Sorry about your loss. My understanding is that neither "make backups when saving" NOR "auto save" is the culprit in the file overwrite bug, because every time it bit me I was using neither one. Furthermore, Darcy Argue, who had also gotten this bug, was saved by his auto backup. Dennis B-K had the best advice that I ever got - incremental saves. Save As... add a number to the end of the file name, every ten minutes, twenty minutes, or every hour. So "Name Score.mus" gets saved as "Name Score 01.mus" then 02, 03, etc. If anything ever happens, I have all the older versions to draw on, so all is not lost. Of course, the laws of nature being what they are, I have never once had to use one of my incremental backups. It's kind of like Mob "protection" money. Bad things will only happen when you DON'T pay the protection money! 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience
unfortunately i dumped the file away into the trash can and am working with the "save as version" i made in a separate HD. gr Christopher Smith wrote: On May 28, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today but luckily i have a backup. what i decided to do now is to save as to a different hard drive every four bars. i am starting to suspect that this odd behavior has to do somehow with the way de document is configured which confuses finale into think that nothing is input gr Send that file to MacSupport, I am sure they would want to take a look at it, if it occurs with the same file all the time. This might be instrumental in tracking it down. Can you reproduce the steps that cause the bug? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: OT: protocol
And, how does one goes about getting a copy of this work ( a recording or whatever) I am a great Kentonian fan - I met him personally and before that I played many of his music when I was active as a trumpet player. gr Bob Florence wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:16:36 -0700 To: finale From: Bob Florence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: protocol Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: Hi All: I have written a composition for an oversized big band. It is titled Appearing In Clevelandand is a tribute to band leader Stan Kenton. It is 15 minutes long and it is based partialy on Stan's theme Artistry In Rhythm. The theme is stated clearly near the beginning and has many short fragments of it later on. Other than that, it is all mine. I tend to think of it like William Walton's Variations on a theme by Paul Hindemith or Brahms Variations On A Theme by Handel. You get the picture. Artistry In Rhythm is not in public domain. The Kenton estate is very much alive. I am going to list myself as composer. What else is necessary? I hope I have mad this clear. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: HP 5si Printer, Adobe Acrobat, and Booklets
for what its worth. as far as i know Acrobat by itself does not allow to do what you want, you need an imposition program along side it to do it. i use indesign - quark or any other program will do as well- and "impose" my booklets in the 11 x 17 size, two pages per side and convert them to pdfs and them print one side, turn the paper and print the other side. this is the layout for an 8 page booklet: 8-1 2-7 6-3 4-5 i use an apple laserwriter 8500 but you can optain the same results i get from any 11x17 printer. if your printer can print on both sides in one run all you have to do is to tell it the sequence you want. hope this helps gr Williams, Jim wrote: Hi, All! I like to print my scores and parts in booklet form using my HP 5si printer. All is well and good unless I have to deal with a PDF of a score or parts, which is quite frequently. I have tried numerous permutations and combinations of settings in the 5si menu and the Acrobat print menu. The Acrobat print process seems to monopolize printing and either ignores the 5si menu settings or contradicts them. I cannot get a proper booklet out of it at all. Is anyone willing to help me save a couple hours of time and a few dozen pieces of 11x17 paper by telling me what combination of 5si (or similar printer) settings and Acrobat settings will yield a proper booklet?? Thanx...Jim W. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Pesky Page Turns
one way would be to use a "fermata" at the end of page two. gr Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I am working on a short sinfonia (movements are about 90 measures long). The 2 Violin parts are the more sophisticated (versus the Viola and 'Cello parts). I absolutely can not the 2 Violin parts to fit on two pages (which would be the optimal way to do it). Is it *that* bad to have this one three pages? Obviously I'd try to get the last measure to be something with either rests or simple note values to help ease the pain of the page turn. But any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated. Kim Patrick Clow ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale
no matter what I do I can't get GPO to show in the setup wizard, I've done every little thing that has being discussed in the forum I have gone trough darcy's tutorial line by line I have reinstalled everything, finale and GPO I have installed GPOStudio I have reinstalled the kontakt player I have read the finale user manual I have read the GPO user manual I have knelt down and begged for forgiveness... here is my configuration Machine Name:Power Mac G5 Machine Model:PowerMac7,3 CPU Type:PowerPC G5 (3.0) Number Of CPUs:2 CPU Speed:2.3 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU):512 KB Memory:4.5 GB Bus Speed:1.15 GHz Boot ROM Version:5.2.4f1 Serial Number:G85345H9RU3 -Finale 2006c ( I have also tryed with Finale 2006-2006b) -full version of Personal Orchestra I can certainly use everybody's help thank you all gr pd. I have being using finale for quite a while but am new to the use of GPO. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale
yes, I am running Finale 2006c thanks gr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you updated to the latest version of 2006? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] finale gpo
i need the link to darcy's tutorial on finale-gpo. thanks to all in advance. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] finale gpo
thanks a million gr Don Hart wrote: http://www.garritan.com/tutorial/HumanPlayback_Tutorial.html Also, this is Darcy's original notification to us about the tutorial: Just because I know you guys wouldn't want to miss it -- the GPO-HP tutorial I wrote for MakeMusic is included with the Fin2006b update. The file is called "GPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf" and it's located in the "User Manual" folder. Cheers, - Darcy Hope this helps. - Don Hart on 2/2/06 5:09 PM, Godofredo Romero at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need the link to darcy's tutorial on finale-gpo. thanks to all in advance. gr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] German question
i am sorry but geschlossen is the pluperfect gr Thomas Schaller wrote: except that there is no geschliessen the past particle is: geschlossen. Sorry Thomas Schaller On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: to me it makes more sense the word schliessen -which in german is not spelled with to s but with a sign i dont have in my computer but that produces the sound of two s- which, among its many acceptations means to close, to conclude, to lock, which is what a slur does when it locks or encloses the notes within it. the ge before the word is to establish the past participle of the tense in which the verve is being used . gr Jörg Peltzer wrote: Andrew Stiller schrieb: I'm working on a 19th-c. score with instructions in both English and German. At one point, the composer cautions that some triplets are to be slurred (since the slur on a triplet does not by itself necessarily imply that a slur is to be performed), and gives a German equivalent that looks like geschlitten. My German dictionary says that's not a word, so I've made it geschliffen, wh. is sort of odd, but at least fits what I'm seeing on the page. Query to the German speakers on this list: does geschliffen make sense in this context, and if not, what other reading might you suggest? BTW: the composer was a native speaker of German, so that's not the problem. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Hello, yes makes a kind of sense, geschliffen derives from the word schleifen. But i wouldn`t think that slur is equivalent to schleifen, it's more like glissando or portamento. If the composer is native german, this would make more sense. greeting Jörg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] German question
to me it makes more sense the word schliessen -which in german is not spelled with to s but with a sign i dont have in my computer but that produces the sound of two s- which, among its many acceptations means to close, to conclude, to lock, which is what a slur does when it locks or encloses the notes within it. the ge before the word is to establish the past participle of the tense in which the verve is being used . gr Jörg Peltzer wrote: Andrew Stiller schrieb: I'm working on a 19th-c. score with instructions in both English and German. At one point, the composer cautions that some triplets are to be slurred (since the slur on a triplet does not by itself necessarily imply that a slur is to be performed), and gives a German equivalent that looks like geschlitten. My German dictionary says that's not a word, so I've made it geschliffen, wh. is sort of odd, but at least fits what I'm seeing on the page. Query to the German speakers on this list: does geschliffen make sense in this context, and if not, what other reading might you suggest? BTW: the composer was a native speaker of German, so that's not the problem. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Hello, yes makes a kind of sense, geschliffen derives from the word schleifen. But i wouldn`t think that slur is equivalent to schleifen, it's more like glissando or portamento. If the composer is native german, this would make more sense. greeting Jörg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Custom Line Thickness
make a duplicate of the line and then make the thickness change in the dup. gr Luís Antunes Pena wrote: Dear all. is there any possibility to make two custom lines with different line thickness? If I change the thickness of one line (Smart Shape Options) it changes all others. Is there any way to solve this? Thanks, Luís ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Scanner Slowdown PC
it would be worthwhile changing your canon software to vuescan gr dhbailey wrote: Henry E. Howey wrote: I have an older comport CANON scanner that has suddenly slowed to an absolute crawl. This is very odd as it was very rapid as short as a couple of weeks ago. Any ideas? Time to put out money for a new scanner? :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] error when saving
I would suggest to make a save as.. with a different name before tragedy strikes and you loose the possibility of even opening your file again. gr tim-cates wrote: hey guys and gals! need some help - any clues on a -5000 error when trying to save? (Fin2005b/mac os 10.3.9) - have also noticed (and deleted) a temporary save file on my desktop couldn't find anything using search on the Finale support site - TIA Tim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO 2
http://garritan.com/GPO-FinalePage.html gr themark wrote: Is this the page http://www.garritan.com/tips_tutorials.html? I cannot find anything by Darcy. Help, please! -Messaggio Originale- Da: Godofredo Romero A: finale@shsu.edu Data invio: sabato 31 dicembre 2005 19.35 Oggetto: Re: [Finale] GPO 2 you can also download darcy's pdf tutorial from the garritan site. gr John Bell wrote: Henry E. Howey wrote: I have loaded the now GPO; however, I have not figured out how to get it to work with 2005 or 2006. Also, there is no help file. In the User Manual folder of Fin 2006b you should findGPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf which is a comprehensive tutorial written by Darcy. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO 2
you can also download darcy's pdf tutorial from the garritan site. gr John Bell wrote: Henry E. Howey wrote: I have loaded the now GPO; however, I have not figured out how to get it to work with 2005 or 2006. Also, there is no help file. In the User Manual folder of Fin 2006b you should findGPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf which is a comprehensive tutorial written by Darcy. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: iBook modem makes no sound in Tiger
open system preferences and network choose your modem from the show pop-up menu click modem, and turn sound on gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: Sorry about this off-topic post, but there are more Mac geeks on this list than I know otherwise: I am away from home, using a phone connection with the internal iBook modem. It works, but there is absolutely no sound when connecting, although the appropriate option is selected in the modem panel, and the Mac's sound is turned up and otherwise working. I know I had sound in Panther. It's not that problematic at the moment, since I know the line and number works, but when I am away and using a hotel telephone connection it's always useful to have that connecting sound. Anyone? Off-list, if you like. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] vapor lock
loco ? gr Richard Yates wrote: Yep. That's it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Chuck Israels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] vapor lock normale? Chuck On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Drawing a blank: what is the term that is used when canceling e.g. ponticello? Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] vapor lock
arco -apologize for my previous "loco" indication- gr Richard Yates wrote: Yep. That's it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Chuck Israels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] vapor lock normale? Chuck On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Drawing a blank: what is the term that is used when canceling e.g. ponticello? Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] vapor lock
you can also use "sulle cordes" which i think is more appropriate gr Don Hart wrote: Also natural. And Adler offers the Italian terms "naturale" and "modo ordinario". on 12/29/05 10:39 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: normale? Chuck On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Drawing a blank: what is the term that is used when canceling e.g. ponticello? Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play, - anyone tried it?
m audio uno, midi connector gr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, December 19, 2005, at 09:48PM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using a cheap 61-note keyboard forever, and (since moving to an iBook G4 recently) have considered buying a 2-octave USB-2 MIDI keyboards. Musician's Friend (musiciansfriend.com) lists three different products at under $150.00. (One is by Oxygen; I forget the other two brands.) I've seen others listed elsewhere. I also bought an Oxygen 2 octave keyboard (jeez, for a non-keyboard player I have a lot it seems!). I found it quite useless because of the necessity to change octaves all of the time - it was too easy to forget which octave you're in etc. Thanks for the feedback (everyone). I guess I need to buy a MIDI-to-USB adaptor for my iBook. (My existing 61-key keyboard has only MIDI (DIN-5 -like) connectors). Any recommendations for MIDI-to-USB adaptors? -- G. Igitur ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] whiteout ties
a) imput the three voices in layer one ( a-b-c)
b) with the tie tool make a tie of the notes that correspond to the "b"
voice
c) switch to layer two
--
d) in layer two repeat the imput of the notes that correspond to voice
"b"
e) make a tie of the notes ("b") that you just put in layer two
f) - from the main tool palette choose the custom tie tool,
click-select one end of the tie which unites the two voice "b" notes -
lets say you choose the "right end"
of the tie - and drag away form the note to shorten it's lenght -
this will leave the other end of the tie attached to the note and you
will have a half way tie-.
g) still in layer two choose, from the main tool palette, the custom
stem tool and use it to "hide" the stems of the two "b" notes
h) go back to layer one
back in layer one
i) from the main tool palette choose the custom tie tool,
click-select the end of the tie which unites the two voice "b"
notes -that which is opposite the tie in layer two and which
corresponds to the "left end" of
the tie - and drag it away from the note to shorten it's
lenght.
please let me know if this explanation clarifies things for you, if not
I'll make a drawing of the procedure and will mail it to you off list.
GR
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On
22.11.2005 Godofredo Romero wrote:
here is a suggestion - you can tell me I am
crazy if you want -: impute the three voices and tie the middle one
then in layer two impute only the middle voice and tie the notes, hide
the stems in layer two and select and drag the tie from one of the
ends to wherever you feel is ok then go back to layer one , select the
tie of the middle voice's opposite end and drag to wherever necessary -
if you want you can change the layer's two color to match that of layer
one so nobody can distinguish what's underneath...
I am sorry, I have immense difficulties to understand this.
Johannes
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Re: [Finale] whiteout ties
please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. thank you Godofredo Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am sure I have asked this in the past, but I can't remember whether I succeeded and how: Is there a way to white out parts of ties, while leaving the stems and noteheads intact? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] whiteout ties
thank you but this doesn't answer my question , and I apologize for not being more explicit - I know what whiting out is and where the term derives from- what I would like to know is a) in what instances of a music part or score is it used b) what effect does it produced and c) which part of the tie is to be whited out, the start, the end or the middle of the tie.. thank you godofredo Carlberg Jones wrote: At 5:58 PM -0400 11/21/05, Godofredo Romero wrote: please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. thank you It means to erase, or make invisible. The term comes from a product called "White Out," a liquid which is applied to writing, typing or printing on paper to cover it up. "White Out" is a trade name. "Liquid Paper" is the same, although it is not as descriptive of its function as "White Out." God forbid something white on black paper . . . oh, never mind, I guess a felt-tip pen would work for that. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] whiteout ties
here is a suggestion - you can tell me I am crazy if you want -: impute the three voices and tie the middle one then in layer two impute only the middle voice and tie the notes, hide the stems in layer two and select and drag the tie from one of the ends to wherever you feel is ok then go back to layer one , select the tie of the middle voice's opposite end and drag to wherever necessary - if you want you can change the layer's two color to match that of layer one so nobody can distinguish what's underneath... waiting for laughs I remain yours GR Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.11.2005 Godofredo Romero wrote: thank you but this doesn't answer my question , and I apologize for not being more explicit - I know what whiting out is and where the term derives from- what I would like to know is a) in what instances of a music part or score is it used b) what effect does it produced and c) which part of the tie is to be whited out, the start, the end or the middle of the tie.. In my particular case I have three voices in one staff, and the middle voice is tied over, while other voices have much shorter note values. The tie collides with notes, and there is simply no way to avoid it. So I would like to white out those parts of the tie that collide with stems or noteheads. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] F2k5 - tuplets and slurs?
To define Slur Contour (height and shape) settings for note-attached slursClick the Smart Shape Tool W. The Smart Shape Menu appears.Choose Slur Contour from the Smart Shape Menu. The Slur Contour dialog box appears.Choose the desired Slur lengthshort, medium, or long or extra long. A slur appears in the Active display area beside a small square handle (the control point handle). The Staff dis-play area shows the slur in proportion to other elements in your score.Drag the control point handle vertically or horizontally to change the slurs height and inset, respectively. If you prefer, you can enter values into the Height and Inset text boxes. The height is displayed in the measurement unit youve selected. The inset is a percentage of the slur length. Click Reset at any time to return the slur to Finales built-in settings.Click OK (or press return) when youre ready to save the new settings and return to the score. Or click Cancel to discard any changes you made to the settings and return to the score. Christopher Smith wrote: On Nov 20, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: I've just started using Finale 2005 for something rather intense with lots of tuplets and slurs, and it's driving me crazy. The slurs are drawn really badly a lot of the time, with a ridiculously high arch depending on the stems (as if anyone would ever want them like this!). Can anyone suggest some appropriate settings that they find useful? I have some slur settings that Darcy shared with the list. I don't remember which ones were original and which were changed, and I am applying these to a JazzFont default, but I think most of the settings should work. Use Engraver slurs - checked Max Slur Angle - 45 degrees Slur Symmetry - 50% (JazzFont Default changes this to look more hand-drawn, but Darcy has convinced me of the elegance of a symmetrical slur!) Space around objects - 18 (EVPU) Avoid accidentals UNCHECKED. You may have to adjust a few slurs, but the general look is way better this way. Initial Adjustment - Stretch, then Maximum StretchAs percentage of Slur Length - 15% The right column has more to do with general look, so I assume that there won't be much difference. Contact me if you really need these settings, but I don't think there is anything changed from the default. Also with the new Engraver Tuplets, I'm finding that I have to adjust them more than I ever did. Is this normal? Hmm. Not in my case, though sometimes I do find them a little low. There might be a global setting you can adjust for this, though I haven't gone looking. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] F2k5 - tuplets and slurs?
To define Slur Contour (height and shape) settings for note-attached slursClick the Smart Shape Tool W. The Smart Shape Menu appears.Choose Slur Contour from the Smart Shape Menu. The Slur Contour dialog box appears. Choose the desired Slur lengthshort, medium, or long or extra long. A slur appears in the Active display area beside a small square handle (the control point handle). The Staff dis-play area shows the slur in proportion to other elements in your score.Drag the control point handle vertically or horizontally to change the slurs height and inset, respectively. If you prefer, you can enter values into the Height and Inset text boxes. The height is displayed in the measurement unit youve selected. The inset is a percentage of the slur length. Click Reset at any time to return the slur to Finales built-in settings.Click OK (or press return) when youre ready to save the new settings and return to the score. Or click Cancel to discard any changes you made to the settings and return to the score. Christopher Smith wrote: On Nov 20, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: I've just started using Finale 2005 for something rather intense with lots of tuplets and slurs, and it's driving me crazy. The slurs are drawn really badly a lot of the time, with a ridiculously high arch depending on the stems (as if anyone would ever want them like this!). Can anyone suggest some appropriate settings that they find useful? I have some slur settings that Darcy shared with the list. I don't remember which ones were original and which were changed, and I am applying these to a JazzFont default, but I think most of the settings should work. Use Engraver slurs - checked Max Slur Angle - 45 degrees Slur Symmetry - 50% (JazzFont Default changes this to look more hand-drawn, but Darcy has convinced me of the elegance of a symmetrical slur!) Space around objects - 18 (EVPU) Avoid accidentals UNCHECKED. You may have to adjust a few slurs, but the general look is way better this way. Initial Adjustment - Stretch, then Maximum StretchAs percentage of Slur Length - 15% The right column has more to do with general look, so I assume that there won't be much difference. Contact me if you really need these settings, but I don't think there is anything changed from the default. Also with the new Engraver Tuplets, I'm finding that I have to adjust them more than I ever did. Is this normal? Hmm. Not in my case, though sometimes I do find them a little low. There might be a global setting you can adjust for this, though I haven't gone looking. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} Combining PDFs
I use Indesign for this purpose, with great success. Godofredo Carolyn Bremer wrote: On 11/15/05, Minke Hylarides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Making PDFs with Finale hase been a struggle for me too, but now I've discovererd the tricks (embedding all fonts, protability, etc. -- it has been a fight!) But now I've encountered a following problem, which hasn't to do with Finale, rather with PDFs on there own. But is there somebody who can help me? For reasons of my own I work with separate Finale files for a bigger work. When a part ends halfway the page, I make the next part start halfway that same page. And when I print it I run it to the printer twice. Easy! But now I have to make PDFs and I can't seem to make them combine on the same page. Well, not an easy way. I discovered that it is possible to cut out a piece of the PDF page and insert that on another PDF page. But you have to place it on exactly the right spot on the page (manually), which was already correct in the first place! A waste of time So I was wondering if someone of you has found a way (tool, program) to paste 2 PDFs on one page. Thanks in advance, Minke Hylarides As an option, you could import both .pdf files into Illustrator and combine there. Not the best nor easiest practice, but a solution. -Carolyn Bremer ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] on pocket or numbers keypad
hi, there, anybody know of a pocket or numbers usb keypad that includes the arrows? thank you for your feedback. godofredo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet
ok, here I go again, crying and sobbing like a child because I don't know how to solve my problem therefore y recur to the sublime wisdom of my fellow listers,etc,etc,etc - like in the king and I- why can't I change clefs at will from one bar to another in the bass clarinet staff if I can do it with no problem with the rest of the instruments? I know everybody in the list will choke with laughter and exclaim if that is the simplest thing to do in finale how can anybody detour us from our serious every day chores with such impertinence ? yea, I know, I know, but I don't remember how to do it so please help me. pliiisss... godofredo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet
because the composer for whom I am working is setting it that way in his scores gr Phil Daley wrote: At 10/21/2005 01:14 PM, John Howell wrote: At 10:35 AM -0400 10/21/05, Godofredo Romero wrote: why can't I change clefs at will from one bar to another in the bass clarinet staff if I can do it with no problem with the rest of the instruments? I know everybody in the list will choke with laughter and exclaim if that is the simplest thing to do in finale Actually my reaction is quite different, and involves screaming at the top of my lungs, Don't do it!!! Why in the world would anyone in the 21st century want to change clefs in a bass clarinet part? Thank you. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] slugishness of my finale
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am getting a very annoying behavior from my finale. it takes forever to respond to my commands, notes or whatever. I make almost all of my entries via speedy note entry and normally I am very fast in doing so and up until now finale had kept up with my speed. what's happening now is that i have to wait, and i mean wait a while, while finale reflects what i have entered in my document. on top of all this my finale doesn't retain the preferences i select to work under. i use a mac with panther 10.3.9. I have repaired the permissions, run norton and disk warrior and gotten no where in the solution of my problem. I am seriously considering making a finale doll and pierce it all over with pins while chanting and dancing around my computer... thanks for your help godofredo romero P.S on second thought, should i make a godofredo doll instead?... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] slugishness of my finale
I am using finale 2004 and I didn't have this happen before. godofredo Brad Beyenhof wrote: Are you using Finale 2006? I get similar problems with Fin2k6/OSX10.3.9, so I'm back to using Finale 2005 for now... -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 10/4/05, Godofredo Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am getting a very annoying behavior from my finale. it takes forever to respond to my commands, notes or whatever. I make almost all of my entries via speedy note entry and normally I am very fast in doing so and up until now finale had kept up with my speed. what's happening now is that i have to wait, and i mean wait a while, while finale reflects what i have entered in my document. on top of all this my finale doesn't retain the preferences i select to work under. i use a mac with panther 10.3.9. I have repaired the permissions, run norton and disk warrior and gotten no where in the solution of my problem. I am seriously considering making a finale doll and pierce it all over with pins while chanting and dancing around my computer... thanks for your help godofredo romero P.S on second thought, should i make a godofredo doll instead?... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Moving System to New Page
if you dont want to alter the page margins nor insert a page break you can also augment the top system margins, this way each system will occupy more space in the page. GR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Select the Page Layout icon then select the stave and Page Layout should give the option to Insert a hard page break I hope that's the answer to what you were asking. Richard From: "Jacki B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed PM 12:42:38 EDT To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Moving System to New Page Hi, Everyone - Is there some easy way to force a system at the bottom of a page onto the next page? I'm adjusting the distance between systems on page 2 but then it keeps scooting another system onto the bottom of page 1 - which then runs into my copyright notice at the bottom, etc.! How can I do this and force that system to stay on page 2?! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] move repeat sign
why not move the first before the repeat sign with the note mover tool ? GR Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 26, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Dragos Oltean wrote: view this image http://www.svp-amd.cnet.ro/diverse/finale_repeat.jpg I want to move repeat sign after first note. It's possible? Thanks, Dragos. Finale 2006, WinXP___ Dragos, There might be a newer way to do this in 2006, but the old way (Fin 2005, which I have) to accomplish this is to make the first bar into 2 bars, each one a 1/4 bar, and then either set the time signature to Display As 2/4 (or 4/8, or whatever it is supposed to be), or set it in Measure Options to Always Hide in both bars. Then you will be able to create a repeat attached to the beginning of the measure. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdfs (again)
suggestion, don't convert direct to .pdf, instead save as .ps -postscript- and then use the distiller to convert to .pdf. hope this solves the problem. godofredo Chuck Israels wrote: No idea about this , Bob. Sorry, Chuck On Sep 24, 2005, at 9:32 AM, Bob Florence wrote: Thank you all who responded to my last pdf question. I converted 19 parts and they are perfect. However, the score is another problem. When I open it and use save to pdf, I don't any music. I just get the Acrobat Reader logo. Help! Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request
I listened to the first two of them (I'm on Mac) and found -heard- nothing that could be defined as glitches, what I did notice is that in some passages the stressing in the pronunciation of words with s by the sopranos leaves some sort of almost imperceptible trailing behind - like a very subtle phone patch- I hope this can be of some help. godofredo David W. Fenton wrote: Could someone check these MP3s: http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Tenebrae/ to tell me if there are problems with them? I know there's a little distortion on them (they are only 192KB MP3s), but it's not obtrusive. I'm only concerned to make sure there are no glitches in the playback. I can't tell for certain myself because my PC seems to have a problem that waveform playing gets mucked up after a period of time using it, and inserts glitches that aren't actually in the source files. When I rewind, the glitches are not there, so I assume the MP3s are actually clean (the same thing happens with the source WAV files, too). I just need to know that my assumption that there actually aren't any glitches in the MP3s is correct, since I can't seem to reliably play them without hearing glitches inserted by my PCs problematic sound subsystem. I have not yet figured out why my PC is doing this. It sometimes comes and goes (I'm listening right now with iTunes, and there's no problem, but with the QuickTime player from the website, the glitches are there, or if I load them from Windows Explorer, in which case they play in Windows Media Player), though occasionally I have to reboot to clean it up. It used to be a problem only with certain WAV players (like the one in Exact Audio Copy), but now seems to have migrated to all waveform players (except, I guess, iTunes). The change seems to have happened around the same time that the wavetable synthesizer on my sound card stopped responding to the Windows volume controls, and that happened after my ill-fated experiment downloading WAV-to-MP3 converters a few weeks ago (I agonized over it publicly here on this list). Right now, I'm just concerned that those MP3s are OK. Thanks for listening! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Installing fonts?
have you tried to e-mail yourself the fonts archives, downloading them using the second computer and then dragging the font file to its corresponding place in the finale folders of the second computer? godofredo Allen Fisher wrote: The finale 2003 installer installs fonts that are incompatible with any flavor of OSX. Go to our website and download the Font Pack installer and run it. That should take care of it. Allen On 7/24/05 1:39 PM, "Phil Shaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: I just tried to install Finale 2003 on a couple of computers, so I can work on a project for someone who requires it. On a computer that has Final 2004, Finale 2003 installed successfully. But when I install on a computer that has no Finale, Finale 2003 has a font problem: when I open an mus file, the notes have stems but no heads. Anybody know how I can move the required fonts from the one machine to the other? Or get the required fonts? Thanks, Phil Shaw ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arpeggio (rolled chord) with arrow?
you have to load the "engraver character sets" to do that. GR LEE DENGLER wrote: Hi Listers, I can not figure out how to create an arpeggio (rolled chord articulation)with arrows. I need both an up and down arpeggio. I am sure there is a way to do this. Thanks to anyone who can help! Lee Dengler Minister of Music and Arts - College Mennonite Church Assistant Professor of Music - Goshen College Director - Goshen Community Chorale Composer, Editor, Engraver 574-535-7262 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Anyone else have playback issues on FinMac 2005?
I've had this and other more or less similar problems with my cherished Finale, like not getting any response or coming to a complete halt when there is an 8a or loco indication, and after trying to talk Finale, speaking softly to it's ear, into doing what it is supposed to do or what I need it to do I recur to a workaround I have successfully used with graphic design softwares like Quark Express which is to a) save the document with a completely different name, and if that doesn't work b) quit Finale, open it again, create a new fresh blank document with the same characteristics as the one which is giving me trouble and mass copy everything from it onto the new document, and up until now it works all the time. This is time consuming, I know, but it's a solution. godofredo Rich Caldwell wrote: I had this problem when HP was introduced, and reported it, but it remains an issue in 2005 (Mac). I have found no consistent way to get it to play. I think it's merely chance, so I just keep hitting the play button until I get a pass that will play. It'll happen, but it might take a few (or five) tries. Maybe my issue is different from yours, since I always had it, QT or Softsynth. Another annoyance I've had since HP is that once it starts playing, at a random moment all instruments get stuck, as if they had sustain pedals depressed. Instant organ! Rich On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Stephen Peters wrote: Lately my FinMac 2005b installation has seriously been acting up when it comes to playback. After running for a while, it will suddenly decide to stop playing anything, either when I hit play or use Opt-Space-Drag to listen to a preview. During playback, the little green bar will move across the page as if it were playing, but no sound comes out. That's using Quicktime playback, and it will usually come back if I quit the program and restart it. Sometime about a week ago Softsynth playback stopped for me totally, for no apparent reason. Same symptoms; Finale thinks it's playing, but no sound. Restarting doesn't seem to change that at all. Anyone else having these issues, or know of a workaround? -- Stephen L. Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: A1BF 5A81 03E7 47CE 71E0 3BD4 8DA6 9268 5BB6 4BBE Poodle: The other white meat. -- Sherman, Sherman's Lagoon ___ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Salzedo font
[EMAIL PROTECTED] GR Eric Dussault wrote: Does anyone knows a way to contact Bill Duncan very quickly because I would need one of his fonts and have deadlines so it's kind of a hurry now. (I am having problems purchasing the font on his site) thank you all, Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Piano Duet Publishers
Maybe this site can be of some help to you http://www.pianostreet.com godofredo romero Giovanni Andreani wrote: Hello this is clearly off topic. I'm looking for compositions for piano duet (four hands on one piano) composed in the 20th and 21st centuries, but it seems there isn't much around the web. I've tried several queries but with no grand satisfaction. Does anyone from this list know about publishers specialized in this instrumentation and period? Thanks Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] uninstalling quicktime
Good morning, no, not angels, but ladies and gentlemen of the agora, does anyone know how to completely uninstall QuickTime,on Mac. The reason I need to do this is because I need to install the new 7.0 professional version and when trying to do so so I get a warning stating that it can not be installed because there is a newer version already installed thank you all GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime
This is what happened, this is what I did. I was running QuickTime pro version 6.5 and downloaded the latest version, 7.0, of QuickTime Player and when I runned the installer I received the message that it can not be installed because there is a newer version running in my machine, in view of this I trashed the old Player version I had installed and then tried to install the downloaded version 7.0 in order to be able to purchase the corresponding new registration key or code , and I kept and keep getting the same message. This is the reason for asking for the way to completely uninstall the application because it is obvious that there lurks , somewhere deep in the dark and secluded catacombs of the system , some hidden and hideous monstrous code with bloodshed eyes , fangs , red wings and pointed tail, laughing and salivating because he is not going to, never, allow me to install the new version of QuickTime Pro 7.0... pleeese... help me... GR Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Also, QuickTime and QuickTime Pro are exactly the same code. If you purchased QuickTime Pro, all you need to do is enter your registration code (in Preferences) to unlock the Pro features. You don't need to uninstall or reinstall anything. Wow, that was really sloppy and confusing writing on my part. Let me try again: QuickTime and QuickTime Pro are not separate products or separate installations. You unlock the QuickTime Pro features by entering your serial number in the preferences. Hope that's more clear. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplet rithm
In a situation like this, this is what I do - I'm on Mac- Taking as a basis the smallest value - 1 16th- I total the sixteen's, which in this case ads up to 6, place the speedy entry on wherever I want to do my entry , press option one. This opens the tuplets options window where I instruct finale to place 6 16th in the place of four 16th, say ok - which brings me back to my score and type my entry. That's it. GR Richard Yates wrote: I want create a tuplet (triplet): 1 eighth + 1 eighth with dot + 1 16th in the space of 1 quarter but i can't define a tuplet in the score. In Speedy Entry press Ctrl-3 then then enter three eighth notes. Go back and add a dot to the second and change the third to a sixteenth. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] on the use of 8a and loco markings on piano scores and parts
Thank you for your response, now can you walk me through this process, step by step. GR Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Godofredo Romero wrote: Is it normal that in piano parts or scores when you put an /8a/ or /loco/ marking it affects the out coming sound on both right and left hands when it comes to the use of the playback controls. What can be done to avoid this from happening. It is normal if you have both the right and left hand staves defined as the same instrument. In an instance, such as 8va and loco, where you want independence between the hands, define two instuments with the sam patch (perhaps named right hand and left hand), and assign each staff a different instrument. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] on the use of 8a and loco markings on piano scores and parts
Please forgive me I didn't understand when you said define two instruments with the sam patch, now I realize you meant the same patch. I was scratching my head trying to figure out which is the sam patch, believe me this is not meant to be a joke. Thanks again. GR Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Godofredo Romero wrote: Is it normal that in piano parts or scores when you put an /8a/ or /loco/ marking it affects the out coming sound on both right and left hands when it comes to the use of the playback controls. What can be done to avoid this from happening. It is normal if you have both the right and left hand staves defined as the same instrument. In an instance, such as 8va and loco, where you want independence between the hands, define two instuments with the sam patch (perhaps named right hand and left hand), and assign each staff a different instrument. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] on the use of 8a and loco markings on piano scores and parts
Hi everyone. Is it normal that in piano parts or scores when you put an 8a or loco marking it affects the out coming sound on both right and left hands when it comes to the use of the playback controls. What can be done to avoid this from happening. Thank you very much for your help on this. GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] from godofredo romero
I am working on a piano score, and proofreading it via the playback controls provided by finale, I am on Mac, Fin 2004. This is what's happening, the moment the scroll bar reaches a point where there's a 8a or loco marking the sound goes mute from then on. Something else, sometimes the tr _expression_ marking is ignored and some other times it is not. What am I doing wrong? Thank you in advance for your kind help. GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Capturing video of desktop activity
Have you considered using flash? GR Colin Broom wrote: Does anyone know of a way/software for making a video capture of Windows desktop activity? For example, if one wanted to create something not disimilar to the Finale Video tips, showing an application at work (it's not actually this I need to do, but what I need to do would take much longer to explain). Do I need an additional device to do this, or is there some software that could do this. I'm also wondering if there would some way of focusing in on specific areas on the display, and possibly even zooming in. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers, C. _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Need compatible xfer MAC == PC
This might sound a little primitive but why don't you ask him to burn a CD and mail it to you..? GR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I paid someone to do some work for me. He has a MAC with Finale 2001, and I have Finale 2004 on my PC with AOL as my ISP and E-mail provider. I was hoping he could send me the finished project, but so far the only thing I can get on-line from him is the MIDI file he posted on his Web site. If he sends it to me via E-mail as an attached file, it gets scrambled, and likewise for the MUS file he created. Is there some way I can get the work intact? Or is it pretty hopeless? Yours; Bill S. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf booklets
I do what you want all the time, except that I do it in a larger size but the process is the same. Here is the procedure: prepare what you are going to print in multiples of four, eight, sixteens,etc. even when your documents don't have the exact number of pages, that is, if you have a document with, say, six or seven pages, prepare it as if it had eight, leaving the rest of the pages in blank. In the cases where the document has eight pages , which requires that you print four on each piece of paper ( two on each side) your numbering should be 8-1 on one side and 7-2 on the other side, the second piece of paper should be numbered thus: 6-3 on one side and 4-5 on the other side (left to right on both cases, I clarify this because I don't know if you are from oriental procedence where reading as well as counting is done from right to left) . If you are going to print direct from Finale all you have to do is instruct the program to print according to the instructions given above. I take it you already know how to do this. Now, if you are going to print your booklets from a PDF that's a different story because you need, number one the professional version of acrobat and number two an imposition program which is what is going to instruct Acrobat and the printer on how to distribute the pages according to the needed layout. You can visit Planet PDF where you'll find different imposition programs to suit your needs. Should this explanation be insufficient or not clear enough I will be glad to extend myself in the subject. In the meantime I remain yours, truly. GR Andrew Stiller wrote: I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. We had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I can read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a snag. To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign the Finale page size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on folded legal paper. The options for 2-up printing and for booklet printing (the page-range box) are in the Finale popup menu in the Print dialog, so I cannot execute them in Reader. There must be a way for the composer to embed these instructions in his pdf files, but neither of us has any idea how. I think he has the full Acrobat program, but I don't know what version. I have only the Reader. Any advice? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] lefthanded keyboard
Does anyone know where I can get a lefthanded keyboard for the Mac? I would content myself with a small keyboard with only the numbers and the arrows, if that is possible. Thank you all. GR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
expression tool doble click on or above the measure at which the letter or number is to appearclick createtipe the letter or numberclick OK Jamin Hoffman wrote: Some years ago, I remember someone on this list telling us how to create move-able rehearsal marks - i.e., rehearsal marks that would reflect the measure number of whatever measure they were attached to - useful when adding or subtracting measures in the middle of a piece. I would like to do this - can whoever said how to do it last time (or someone else who knows now) outline how to do it (again)? Thanks - Jamin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] how to move the zero mark on the rulers
Is there a way to move the zero mark on the rulers at will to wherever one wishes to or needs to, and if so how? Thank you all. I'm on Fin 2004 Mac 10.3 Godofredo Romero ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mastering Page Layout
Finale, An Easy Guide to Music Notation, Berklee Press, by Thomas E. Rudolph and Vincent a. Leonard,jr has a chapter dedicated to page layout. This might be what you are looking for. I own a copy of this book and keep it next to me all the time. If it weren't for this valuable book it would have taken me a lot longer to learn finale. Godofredo P.S I am also a graphic designer and graphic arts - printing- expert so I know exactly what you are talking about. Paul Besco wrote: I'm delving into FInale from the desk top publishing side with much experience with text and image manipulation for press. My portal for music publishing was Smartmusic and Printmusic, both handled page layout in their own way. Printmusic work did not prepare me for Finale, which seems to be somewhere between Smartmusic and Printmusic in the sense, that it doesn't quite seem to do what previous dtp experience would lead one to expect. I'm having trouble grasping the relationship between the huge Page Layout Options for Score dialog and the System and Page Margin dialogs. The manual is very thorough, but attempting to get a copy of a piano piece to lay on the page like I want is a push-me-pull-you affair between the various dialogs. Does anyone have a link to a discussion about these dialog relationships or can recommend a text book? Paul Besco, Rags Design Sonoma California ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] String divisi
There is interesting information on this subjet at http://www.earlybass.com/borgin.htm Godofredo Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am by no means an expert, but the term violone is used for various instruments, including the cello itself (see for instance Corelli's violin sonatas original title), but was also in wide use for a double bass instrument. A violone could be an 8' or 16' instrument, or a mixture of both (the G-violone). Johannes David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 at 17:25, Godofredo Romero wrote: Taken from Cecil Forsyth' book on orchestration The name Violone, i.e big Viola, was given to the Double-Bass, and in accordance with the accurate if somewhat limited principles of the Italian laguage, the intermediate instrument was christened, Red-Indian-fashion, little big Viola, Violoncello. It's a four stringed instrument. Eh? A violone is a member of the *viol* family, not part of the violin family, and has a variable number of strings. Certainly the instrument NYU is acquiring will have gut strings, a flat back, C holes and frets, which means it has nothing to do with the modern double bass nor with the cello. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] String divisi
Taken from Cecil Forsyth' book on orchestration "The name Violone, i.e "big Viola, was given to the Double-Bass, and in accordance with the accurate if somewhat limited principles of the Italian laguage, the intermediate instrument was christened, Red-Indian-fashion, "little big Viola, " Violoncello". It's a four stringed instrument. Godofredo David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 at 9:07, John Howell wrote: [] IIRC, there is also a low B in Brandenburg 3, but that may have been intended for a six-string violone. I with I had a score at hand to check this, but it seems kinda questionable. Could somebody check and report back to us? While bass tuning was and is the least standardized in the string family, I believe the violone was tuned an octave below the bass viola da gamba, which would take it down to a low D, a whole step below the low E of the "normal" bass violin, but nowhere near a low B. The lowest note I've seen throughout Bach's work is low C, the lowest note of the cello in standard tuning and the lowest note available on the organ keyboard. (This is entirely separate from the question of the original, intended pitch for the Weimar cantatas, which is a very special case.) NYU is about to take delivery of a new violone. I really know not much of anything about it, but I do know that it has a low A string (I don't know if it is 6 strings, A to A or what, or if it's a 7- string instrument). Also, keep in mind that Bach's gamba sonatas assumed a 7-string gamba with a low A string (because two of the three sonatas require low B), so if the violones were an octave below this 7-string instrument, then they'd also have a low A string (regardless of what strings they had above it). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] how to get the best possible sound output
Thank you very much for the time taken to feed me with such valuable information, you can be shure I will make the best use of it. Godofredo PS: Dont leave town because if I get stuck in the middle of the road to get to where I intend to I'll knock on your door one more once asking for help. A-NO-NE Music wrote: Godofredo Romero / 05.2.23 / 06:12 PM wrote: The output I dream about has to be as realistic and professional as possible. I get disapointed because the sound I get - which is what Finale is giving me- is poor. Do you mean that I have to transfer my Finale files onto a sequencer program and twiddle them there? Which sequencers do you suggest? When I was working for Broadway shows, the only way I could possibly produce satisfactory results of imitating the real orchestra was, not to transfer Finale data to sequencer, but to play each line by hand into sequencer by reading the parts of Finale output. I use K2600Rs with real samples of real musicians instead of canned onboard samples. Yet I have to tweak the decay of the note by automating the volume data. Attack time of strings is another issue, too. My choice of sequencer is MOTU Digital Performer. I also have Logic but I simply couldn't think music with Lego blocks. A piece of advice on monitoring. Back when I switched from Alesis monitor to Generic active monitor with sub, I was shocked to hear some annoying high from sampled sound. My favorite samples were not that great after all, but I didn't know that till I got the better monitor. I had to change my way of mixing a lot. Granted, Generic has some hyped high, but my point is that knowing your monitor is the key. If your monitor and room is not reproducing the accurate sound, your music might sound only good in your room but no where else. P.S. Nope, I am not too happy with Generic anymore. I am planning to move to Dynaudio now. Mackie HR824 is another good one if you are looking for one :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] how to get the best possible sound output
The output I dream about has to be as realistic and professional as possible. I get disapointed because the sound I get - which is what Finale is giving me- is poor. Do you mean that I have to transfer my Finale files onto a sequencer program and twiddle them there? Which sequencers do you suggest? Thank you for your and everybody elses concern. Godofredo A-NO-NE Music wrote: Godofredo Romero / 05.2.22 / 06:41 PM wrote: I have being able to deliver are piano parts and solo instruments but no matter what I do when I try to do the same with the full score I simply cant' get it done, it sounds like garbage cans rattled by alley cats. Do you mean you get distortion? If so, there are only two possible reasons that I can think of. CPU overload or amplitude overload. There are different solutions to these. What sound source are you using? QT? How realistic your output has to be? If you need descent musical output, you'd first need a sequencer program so you can shape the sound using volume/ch-pressure automation on each instrument. I found Finale's HP quite annoying so I don't use it. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] how to get the best possible sound output
Hello there you happy listers I am about to purchase a Mac G5 and before I do I would like to find out through any of you musical friends a couple of things, and here is one of them: I intend to add the Garritan, Kontakt soft wares or whatever else it takes to produce really high quality recordings -sound output - from my Finale files, and the question is: is the sound card that comes with the machine good enough or do I or should I change it an install a different card such as the M-Audio Audiophile PCI Audio card? This and whatever other information regarding how to obtain the best possible sound quality will be welcome. At the time I am working on a Mac G3 with Finale 2004, I have already purchased Fin 2005 to install it on the G5 as soon as I get it. Thanks a million to all in advance. Godofredo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Have you considered making them yourself with corrugated cardboard or any other of the materials used in stores and theaters for their displays, all you would need, aside from the chosen material, would be a box cutter and the enthusiasm to do it. I am attaching a drawing of my suggestion in pdf in case you would decide on this initial approach. Should you decide on this solution I would be very happy to make the design for the front of the stands, which you can print with a plotter and attach to each of the stands. Godofredo PS No I don't have a cardboard solution for the lights... :-P Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: Christopher I would imagine this is the one. As far as I know, Embee and Humes Berg might be the only 2 manufacturers. The Polystand is much lighter than the Humes Berg, but the Humes and Berg may hold up better over time. For your situation, the Polystand sounds like a great choice. The battery powered lights I've played under tend not to be bright enough, but there are so many now, one should fit your needs. Most bands I've worked with supply the stand fronts to the saxes, leader, and ther rest bring their manhasset. It does add a touch of class to have the stand fronts! Jim - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations That looks like the corrugated plastic one I mentioned! Good catch! At less than 3 pounds each, you could take a bunch of these on the subway no problem. Christopher On Feb 20, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: I've known a few band to use the polystand from: http://www.embeeideas.com/ just about any music store deals with Humes Berg - they make a very similar product. Jime Sodke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT! CD Burner question
A workaround to this is as follows: turn both toast and your burner off then turn then back on one after the other, beginning with toast then the burner. This is a hit and miss until you get both synchronized. It worked for me when I was running OS 9.2. Hope this helps. GR Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: ONce again, I turn to my friends on this list to offer a few suggestions: Toast can't find my CD burner on the SCSI chain, but if I do a search for my burner, it IS listed. I am on a Mac running OS 9.2 and I have a TEAC burner from ClubMac. I am using Intech's CD/DVD SpeedTools as my driver. Toast or Jam tell me to check my cables...but all is intact. The burner has always worked fine, so I am confused about how to remedy the situation. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Guitar Tab Copy/Paste Bug
Doesn't only happen with guitar tabs but, in my case it does with whatever music I copy and paste , for example if you have either sharps or flats the following notes in the same line or space show a natural sign!!! GR Simon Troup wrote: Ref: Mac Fin 2005a Problem: When copying and pasting guitar Tab in Mac Fin 2005a an exact copy does not always result ... often the tab numbers default back to open position in the target bar if they were in a higher position in the source bar. Question 1: Does this also happen in Win Fin 2005 Question 2: This has to be a bug right? Can anyone think of any earthly reason why this behaviour is preferable to source and target being replicated exactly? (I certainly can't!) Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FW: EPS-WinXP
Maybe I am too slow, maybe I come from a different world but I do make eps' direct from finale, thus: fileprintcopies pagesoutput optionssave as filepostcript. Is this any, or much different from what you are pursuing? GR dhbailey wrote: Kurt Gnos wrote: I don't understand all the people who don't think they need Finale's EPS output. 1. First of all, it's freely scalable, without quality loss. You find out that your TIFF has not the right size. If you had used an EPS that wouldn't be a problem. half size? double size? 800%? 2. It's smaller than TIFF. And if you scale tiffs you might get ugly results, even at 600 dpi. 3. You can import the EPS into vector graphic programs as Illustrator or Corel Draw and change anything you like. Want a bigger Clef? Notation in the form of a wave? use a magnifying lens? Work with colors? And more and more... 4. Faster. I use a laser printer that is optimized for EPS and PDF output. 5. Professional. Professional printing uses mostly EPS and PDF. PDF is very similar to EPS anyway as I understand it. [snip] I can't argue with your reasons 3, 4, and 5 -- there are lots of people who need those capabilities (I don't find EPS any faster printing than TIFF) and I certainly support them in their desire to get EPS export working properly in Finale. As to 1 and 2, I often import TIFFs into WordPerfect and scale them and they look great when I change size, larger or smaller. Perhaps WordPerfect has a better graphics manipulation routine than the program you are using, but I've never had a problem with the TIFFs I can export from Finale. I export them at a high dpi, though, which might make a difference. As for file size, with hard drives so huge these days, does the difference in size between a TIFF or EPS really matter anymore? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Request for help with handbell chart of bells
For whatever it's worth, there is an extense take on writing music for bells in Cecil Forsyth's book on orchestration, published by The Macmillan Company in NY; I'm checking the second edition, which I own, and I think it answers many of the questions one my have on the subject. ding-ding-dong :-) GR Ken Wilson wrote: Request for help with handbell chart of bells Anyone with handbell score experience? I havent worked with a Finale bell score for a some time, until tonight. But I thought I remembered that earlier when you chose handbells in the setup wizard, an editable (of course) default Chart of Bells Used would appear at the top of the first page. Any idea where I could find this default chart? It doesnt seem to pop up automatically any more. (A search of handbell in the PFD Finale manual came back empty.) Thanks. Ken Wilson *** Ken Wilson Knollwood Baptist Church Winston-Salem, NC http://www.knollwood.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Vertical lines
The \ key in the maestro font produces a vertical line. You can vary it's length by means of varying the point size. GR Owain Sutton wrote: I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any way to force them to be vertical, as there is horizontal? (FinWin 2k3) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FW: EPS-WinXP
There's only two kind of people on this planet, Mac users and those who cry and pray to become Mac users... ;-) GR A-NO-NE Music wrote: Richard Yates / 04.11.20 / 4:12PM wrote: Hello Hiro, Welcome to the list. There has never been a census of Mac and Windows users here. There seem to be many of both. Thank you for the comment :-) To be honest, I have had this bitter taste in my mouth, that Finale has been much buggier than it used to be ever since Windows version has introduced. We the Mac users has been wondering if Finale became Windows centric. My main reason to join this list was to see bug reports before I find them in a hard way. Speaking of Postscript issue, 2k4 Mac versions throughout had text underline printing problem when output to Postscript, and was surprised it was never fixed with consequent patches. Was there workaround to it? I know 2k5 fixed it, but I still need to use 2k4 since most of my students cannot open/edit 2k5 file. By the way, I had to call customer service to complain why Finale doesn't have SaveAs older format that most other commercial software offer :-) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Erasure
The only CD' you can erase and burn again are the one specified as CD-RW GR Dean M. Estabrook wrote: How does one delete files from a CD-R disc? I run an iMac. Dean Para mí, la música es la respiración de la vida y de Dios. Per me, la musica è l'alito della vita e di Dio Pour moi, la musique est le souffle de la vie et de Dieu. Für mich ist Musik der Atem des Lebens und des Gottes. Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Finale to PC Finale
Here is a crazy suggestion, change the .etf to .mus and see what happens. Please don't let anybody see this I don't want them to laugh at me :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Recently I received a file sent by someone that was saved using Finale 3.2 for Mac into an .ETF file, which are supposedly useful for just this purpose. I, however, cannot open it on my end using Finale 2002, 2004 or 2005. In each case, I get an invalid file type error message. This confuses me greatly as I have received files in the past with no problem. This time it is very time critical. The person is now sending me a hard copy via snail mail (even a day is slower than computers ;) ) And if I cannot make the file transfer work the music will need to be entered note by note. Is there something we can do to get the files to transfer? Thanks for all your help in advance. I am on the digest version, so if you can email me directly, I will receive the response much quicker. Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pelicanmusicpublishing.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting Finale Files to a CD
go to savesave specialsave as audio file and you'll have an .aif file which you can play in any CD player. You can also, if you wish, open the .aif file by using the add to library option in iTunes and once you have it there you can convert the file to the mp3 format. Godofredo Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I am running MacFin04 on my iMac. Is there a way to transfer a finale file to a CD and have it playback from that CD on a normal home CD player? Since I'm on a iMac, would it involve using itunes, or is their an easier way ... if there is a way at all? Dean Para mí, la música es la respiración de la vida y de Dios. Per me, la musica è l'alito della vita e di Dio Pour moi, la musique est le souffle de la vie et de Dieu. Für mich ist Musik der Atem des Lebens und des Gottes. Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 and Windows 98
fileprint[copies pages]output options check save as filepostcript...ta-d! Godofredo d. collins wrote: Still trying to find a solution to create EPS files from Finale, I installed Virtual PC, and then Windows 98 and Finale 2004 on my computer. But it won't run (DLL missing, and other error messages). Are there any known problems with Finale 2004 and Win98? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2005a Problem
A suggestion: unistall your finale 2005, using the uninstaller, and reinstall it again and then update it. Godofredo Rick Neal wrote: I just applied the Finale 2005a updater for Windows and found (to my horror) that my copy is now unregistered. When I try to register it naturally tells me I have already used my two registrations. Has anyone else experienced this? The warning tells me my copy will be disabled tomorrow. :-( Rick Neal ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] naturals in Speedy Entry
How about the check for accidentals in the speedy note entry menu, have you tried that? Godofredo Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Stig Christensen wrote: Hey, Suddenly I got a lot of wrong naturals when using speedy entry. I'm in A major and writing a lot of natural g's. Finale puts naturals on ALL g and not only the first one. Can anyone help! Isn't there checkbox somewhere, which when checked, forces display of accidentals on all notes. I remember seeing this but don't remember where. I'm not at a computer with Finale installed at the moment, either, and can't tell you exactly where it is. Besides the user's manual / on-line documentation, good places to look would be in the staff attributes, or someplace in the document or program options. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] desperate help needed with unopenable file
I really didn't panic when I couldn't open the file, what the heck, I told myself, I have my back-ups - sometimes I make two - so I got on my horse and went gallivanting through the prairie hoping to be rescued by my back-up, but as I knocket-knocket on its icon I didn't get any answer, but I didn't panic either, this time I said to myself perhaps it doesn't want to answer unless I call it by another name, thinking that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet... but no my back-up was being supportive of the original file, and maybe it was thinking something like why should I open, or respond, for that matter, when my originator, my mammy isn't opening... and all this years I have being fooled to believe that back-ups don't do that sort of things , there must be a moral behind all this... thank you for your concern Godofredo d. collins wrote: Godofredo Romero écrit: What can I do to open the file and finish what I am doing , should I start a new file or just jump off a cliff ? I am working with Finale 2004 on a Mac with system X. This may be obvious, but do you have the autosave function on? If so, you should have a usable version of your file in what ever directory you store these automatically saved files. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] desperate help needed with unopenable file
This is the message I sent Noel I hadn't considered the detail of the cost of the flowers, how selfish and egotistic can one get when facing an extreme situation such as the loss of so many hours and days of work, I humbly apologize, it won't happen again. I did have a backup of the file, I always keep back-ups, but it is also inoperable. Thank you Godofredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Godofredo, Unfortunately, I don't think the file is salvageable but what happened here sounds like a kernel panic. What you describe is specifically a kernel panic in either 10.0 or 10.1 During the panic corrupt data was most likely written to the file. The best fix is prevention as Noel suggested by keeping backups (you can do this in program options.) And I would second Noel's bidding to stay away from high places...:-) Take care, Karen Help, help, help, etc. While working , halfway, in the copy of a score, all of the sudden i got a system crash - a lot of white text, messages, over black strips, which forced me to restart the machine. When I tried to open the file again I wasn't able to, instead I got the message while attempting to access - the name of the file- the file manager reported an error , error occurred ID=-8 and I simply couldn't open the file. I made a duplicate of the file and changed it's name to see if that could solve the problem and I didn't succeed, this time I got an ID=-12 as the error. What can I do to open the file and finish what I am doing , should I start a new file or just jump off a cliff ? I am working with Finale 2004 on a Mac with system X. I would really appreciate all the help I can get to solve this problem. Godofredo ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
