[Finale] Map for Maestro font?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Finale 25 on an iMac running High Sierra.
I need the bass clef sign in a text,
Went to the User Manual via the Help menu.
Searched and found the clef map for Maestro, which says Shift-Z for the bass 
clef, but out comes a dynamic.
I am sure I overlooked something, but where did I fail?
Klaus 

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Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Tedious, but you could make a copy of the file. There you could delete all 
notes in the offending bar. Then listen if there is an artifact in the bar. If 
not add the notes one by one and listen after each entry, whether something 
wrong occurs. If so check if the offending note is a resultant pitch of the 
notes entered so far. If everything comes out well, then go on working from 
this file. The error then were a one-off corruption in the original entry 
process.

If there is an artifact in the bad bar, my first attempt would be about 
deleting the whole stack of that bar. Then listen whether the artifact is 
rooted in a different bar. If not then insert a new bar and then re-enter the 
contents of the stack again. Most certainly not by copying from the original 
file.

I am a retired teacher and without knowing any code it has been helpful to me 
treating the computer like a kid with learning disabilities: Cut up the process 
in its smallest bits and check after each step.

Klaus 


On Sun, 1/7/18, Michael Edwards  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music  
playback.
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Sunday, January 7, 2018, 7:22 PM
 
 [Christopher Smith wrote:]
 
 >I am suspecting that the
 left hand Bb is tied over, and the note it
 >is tied over to is actually a B natural.
 
       Thanks for your
 suggestion, Christopher.  I thought for a moment 
 you had it, and kicked myself for not
 checking.  I've just looked again, 
 and
 I'm afraid it's not that.
       I
 neglected to say in which octave this rogue B appeared, and
 it's 
 in the lower octave.  The Bb that
 ties over is the one almost an octave 
 above
 Middle C - but the rogue B is definitely an octave below
 that, 
 adjacent to Middle C.
       Nonetheless, in case the octave was
 deceptive, I used the asterisk 
 to show the
 accidental to check out what you said - and the higher Bb
 
 definitely is a flat, not a natural. 
 There is definitely no B or Cb 
 anywhere in
 that bar.  There is in the following bar (which contains
 the 
 same chord shifted down a perfect 5th)
 - is it beyond the bounds of 
 possibility
 that the Cb from there is somehow being shifted a bar or so
 
 earlier by the Finale playback?
       So I'm afraid the matter is still
 unresolved.
       Can it just be a
 software or memory glitch or bug that does such a 
 thing?  Perhaps I just need to delete the
 whole bar and do it again from 
 scratch, and
 see if it happens again.
 
 Michael
 Edwards.
 

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[Finale] The requested virtual instrument plugin could not be found.

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Sorry for the first attempt being sent before it was finished!

Just bought FM25 for a new iMac.
Tested a file made in FM2014. It played back, but with the wrong sounds because 
I hadn’t installed my 3 Garritan sound libraries yet.
Installed these libraries and of course the Aria Player. After opening Finale 
again the test file gave no sound when the playback was started.
I opened the Aria Player and returned to Finale, whereafter I was met by this 
message;
The requested virtual instrument plugin could not be found.
What to do?

Thanks 
Klaus
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[Finale] The requested virtual instrument plugin could not be found.

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Just bought FM25 for a new iMac.
Tested a file made in FM2014, it played back, but with the wrong sounds because 
I hadn’t installed my 3 Garritan sound libraries yet.
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Re: [Finale] Different type barlines at a specific place

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I hope you really need this feature, because I have found a time consuming 
manual workaround. I haven‘t done all the necessary adjustments, only proven 
the principle in a trio for horns that I am editing. The screen shot from 
Finale is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/52jjkhys6kvini4/Barlines%20between%20staves.png?dl=0

You have to set the line thickness in the Smart Shapes tool (Smart Shape 
options( to the same as the thickness of your barlines (document options).
Choose the line option in Smart Shapes that can be drawn vertically. Draw it 
between two staves next to a barline. It will default to the closest beat, but 
you can drad it on top of the barline between the staves.
In the selection tool click the bar before the barline and make the original 
barline invisible.
Klaus
  From: Barbara Touburg 
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Different type barlines at a specific place
   
On 16-4-2017 15:49, Christopher Smith wrote:
> So I used jef chippewa’s suggestion, and after I made all the barlines in one 
> system connect, I broke some of them using a staff style. That worked 
> perfectly. That is what I suggest.

But I'm looking for a way to draw the barlines *between* the staves and 
not *on* the staves.
   
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

If this library works in F2014, I would be a happy receiver too.

Klaus in DK

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 14. mar. 2017 kl. 14.57 skrev Dr. Raphael D. Thöne 
> :
> 
> So am I! :-)
>> Am 14.03.2017 um 14:51 schrieb Martin Nickless :
>> 
>> Hi 
>> That would be great would you mind sending it to me 
>> Thanks
>> Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2017, at 13:44, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have a link.  I use a library that I build based on a very 
>>> comprehensive library somebody else made years ago. I wish I could give 
>>> credit because it was obviously an enormous amount of work. They 
>>> meticulously built just about every chord suffix you could ever need 
>>> into a nice-looking "handwritten" format.
>>> 
>>> I believe I took that and eliminated redundant entries that were styles 
>>> I would not use, and then I reorganized the numbering scheme to group 
>>> related entries. There are 144 in this library.
>>> 
>>> Once the library is imported unto your score, you can enter most chords 
>>> by typing the suffix (such as "Eb7(#9)"). Some are ambiguous, so you 
>>> might have to specify the suffix by its number. For example, in my case 
>>> "C:112" gets me C"(Add #9 Add b9).
>>> 
>>> Importing is non-trivial. You should remove all the chords from your 
>>> score first, which actually ends up being a little complicated. I have 
>>> documented the procedure on another computer that I can't access at the 
>>> moment. Once the default chords are gone, you import the comprehensive 
>>> library.
>>> 
>>> I would be happy to provide the library I use along with a PDF that is a 
>>> 2-page reference chart if anybody is interested.  I caution that there 
>>> are multiple nomenclature systems in use. I think this one is fairly 
>>> consistent with Berklee.
>>> 
>>> This all seems far more complicated then it deserves to be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3/14/2017 4:34 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
 Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
 circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
 suffixes he was asking about?
 
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Re: [Finale] Dutch top 40 film music

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

403 Forbidden

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 3. mar. 2017 kl. 19.22 skrev Barbara Touburg :
> 
> The list can be downloaded at
> 
> http://www.radio4.nl/thema/Filmmuziek
> 
> Right-click on "Bekijk hier de volledige Filmmuziek Top 40 lijst (PDF)" 
> and save pdf to see the list.
> 
> Enjoy!
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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

If your have stopped the playback before it reached the end of the file, you 
cannot change the tempo setting in the playback window. You may start the 
playback at a measure # near the end, let the playback finish itself, and then 
edit the tempo setting before starting a new playback.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 29. jan. 2017 kl. 12.29 skrev Sigurdur Jonsson :
> 
> Dear friends.
> 
> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback 
> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so I 
> can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Diddi
> 

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Re: [Finale] My music won't stand still to be edited!

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Same happens to me, if a source in the shape of a heavy book slides onto part 
of the alfa-numeric keyboard, so that one or more keys are partially or fully 
depressed.

It might also happen, if one of your alfa-numeric or function keys is sticking. 
My remedy for that is about sliding my fingers over all keys to unstick the 
unknown culprit.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad
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[Finale] Complex print question from a friend in a time pinch

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

My friend arranges and conducts for a US-based band camp. He wants a script or 
plugin type solution, which I cannot point him to. I even doubt it exists. But 
there are people much smarter than me on this list:

Anyone know whether Finale has something like a Print Changes Only setting, 
where you can hit Print and only get a new score and the parts that changed 
since the last saved version? When in a big hurry I don't like having to go 
into the Print dialog and select parts manually. Sometimes you have massive 
changes in a number of parts but only one or two small ones in others, which 
can be easy to forget in a high pressure situation. 

Also, if only small revisions were made to a part so that, say one page was 
affected, but the layout of the pages was not, it would be great if Finale 
could simply reprint the changed pages automatically rather that having to 
manually fish out each page to print. If you have over a hundred pages of parts 
and score and you made changes that affect twenty specific pages and none of 
the others whatsoever, Print Changes Only would be a huge time saver. This 
matters when your players are sitting there waiting for you.

Can Finale be made to do this, or is there a plug-in for such 
functionality?(end of quote)

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad
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Re: [Finale] Removing a word next to a group of staves

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Wouldn’t Saxs be the name a group, and hence have to be changed via the Groups 
dialog box?

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 26. jul. 2016 kl. 02.19 skrev Martin Nickless :
> 
> 
> Hi there I'm on Windows 10
> Finale 2012
> 
> On my big band template I have the word  Saxs instead of alto one alto two etc
> However using the same template for a small band arrangement 
> Where there are just three Saxs I want to remove the word or abbreviation 
> sax,s
> Could someone tell me the process 
> Can't find it in score manager
> Many many thanks 
> Martin
> 
> 

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Re: [Finale] Group with only 1 staff

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

To the left in the lower half of the group attributes window you will have to 
tick a box saying something to the effect of Also show bracket, when only one 
staff in group.

Klaus, from memory

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 18. jul. 2016 kl. 20.34 skrev Barbara Touburg :
> 
> I try to make a group with only 1 staff. I get a group name, but no 
> bracket. Is this how it is supposed to be?
> _

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Re: [Finale] OT Music theory question

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

C9sus4

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 23. mar. 2016 kl. 08.40 skrev Marcello Noia :
> 
> Hi, due to my huge lackness in harmonical theory, I ask this:
> is there a technical term to define a chord formed by
> (starting from low note) perfect fourth-perfect fourth-major third
> (for example C-F-Bb-D).
> I see it often used in vocal arrangements (Jonathan Rathbone for
> Swingle Singers for example), sometimes also in progression for
> ascending or descending whole tones or half-tones. It creates
> a beautiful "suspended" and "misterioso" atmosphere.
> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] GPO volume problem

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Turn the Send button on the mixer counterclockwise. 

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 21. nov. 2015 kl. 04.53 skrev Raymond Horton :
> 
> Windows finale version 2014, Finale GPO: I added a bass clarinet  line  in
> the middle of working on a piece  but it is playing back  much too loudly .
> I lower the volume in the GPO mixer, but when I play back the slider goes
> back to the top. I can't lower it in the Studio view because it is sharing
> a staff with clarinet 2.  What am I missing? Thanks for any help.
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Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: "to go on" endings

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Only saw this once. There the Continue ending was first.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 23. sep. 2015 kl. 03.27 skrev Ryan Beard :
> 
> I'm arranging a tune that will have several stopping points. It's ceremonial 
> music that can be used as underscoring for processions, etc. 
> 
> I think the best way to indicate this in the music is to relabel 1st and 2nd 
> endings as "fine" and "to go on…". But, which should come first?
> 
> Are there any suggestions on a different approach?
> 
> 

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Re: [Finale] Special tools custom stem tool triplets

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Change that bar in that part to 12/8.

Klaus 

Aired by iPad 

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 23/08/2015 kl. 19.54 skrev Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com:
 
 So this is a very annoying bug with no workaround that I can think of…
 
 I am trying to show a 12-tone series on a part for an improvising soloist. I 
 also want to show a cued bass line in the same measure.
 
 The part is in 4/4 so the 12-tone row is in eighth-note triplets in layer 3. 
 I want those notes to be stemless. But I want to show the stems on the cued 
 bass line, in layer 4. So I create the stemless notes the old-fashioned way, 
 using the Custom Stem Tool and a blank shape, breaking all the triplet beams, 
 and hiding the triplet numbers and brackets. So far, so good.
 
 The problem comes when it is time to copy this notation to another measure. 
 When a custom stem has been applied to the first triplet in the measure, 
 copying it causes the triplet to be deleted and the first three eighth notes 
 of the 12-tone row come in as regular (non-triplet) eighth notes. (The other 
 triplets come in correctly — only the first triplet in the measure is 
 affected.)
 
 Needless to say, this is a bit of a nightmare. The only workaround I can 
 think of is leaving the regular stem in place for the first triplet, copying 
 this notation everywhere I need it (which is many, many places), and then, 
 once all of the copy operations are complete, going back and applying the 
 custom stem measure-by-measure as needed.
 
 Can anyone (A) confirm this bug and (B) think of a better workaround?
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Sporadically Displaying Naturals at Start of System

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

In Document Options - Key Signatures 
check
Cancel Outgoing Key Signatures 
Klaus
 
  From: Giovanni Andreani l...@giovanniandreani.comSent: Tuesday, August 
4, 2015 9:08 AM
 Subject: [Finale] Sporadically Displaying Naturals at Start of System
   
I’ve disabled the 'In C, Display Naturals at Start of Staff System’ option from 
the Document Options - Key Signatures because I don’t want to see those 
naturals when a new key signature appears; nevertheless I have the need of it a 
very few times -while working on a score containing exercises in many different 
keys- when a key change occurs in the same exercise. Is there a staff style 
with this function or a possible workaround?

Giovanni
   
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Re: [Finale] beaming over rests

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

= Document Options (alt+cmd+A on Mac)= Beams= Uncheck: Allow Rests To Float
Klaus 
 
 Subject: Re: [Finale] beaming over rests
   
Fin2012c  Win 8.1

When the beams are set to go over the rests, the rests are globally pushed down 
into the first space. How to keep them in their normal position?

Thanks for your help!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

   
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Re: [Finale] OT: Online hyphenator for German

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

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  This one might do it for you.
Klaus
 
  From: Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
I really like Juicio Brennan's online lyric hyphenator
http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/, but as far as I can tell it only
works for English. Does anyone know of a similar resource for German? The
closest I've found is the Soft Hyphenator, http://www.softhyphen.com/ but
this requires an extra step of converting the html tags for soft hyphens
into hard hyphens. Also, I have no idea if the rules for soft hyphenation
are the same as the rules for text underlay.
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Re: [Finale] 1. Re: Ghost Dynamic Effects in Playback (Michael Lawlor)

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

When I meet dynamic or tempo related ghosts, I consider the problem attached to 
the underlying full stack.
I cut the full stack of the of the problem measure and the rest of the piece 
and move it a few measures to the right. I then delete the empty stack of 
measures. If there are more problem stacks I repeat the procedure.
Klaus
 
  From: Michael Lawlor mjlaw...@virginmedia.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] 1. Re: Ghost Dynamic Effects in Playback (Michael Lawlor)
   
Thanks for the suggestion, David, but that didn't work either.  I even 
tried just selecting the notes and leaving all the other items out and 
it still did not work.  I have already recreated it from scratch now and 
that plays back fine.
Regards,
Michael Lawlor

On 01/03/2015 18:07, David Wolfson wrote:
 You might try copying the music, deleting the staff, creating a new staff, 
 and pasting the music back in. I’ve had good luck with that technique getting 
 rid of phantom pitch bends.


   
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Re: [Finale] Templates

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Don't document options save to libraries?

I get my line parameters and defined expressions, when I load my customized 
library to scratch documents.

One aspect not loaded to library is line thickness of smart shape lines.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 18/02/2015 kl. 22.44 skrev Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk:
 
 I was dreading that that might be the solution.. 
 I was hoping that Finale might store them in a text file somewhere…
 
 Are there any gotchas?
 I need libraries, document settings, details of any page items.. anything 
 else?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Steve P.
 
 On 18 Feb 2015, at 22:36, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 when i had to do this, i simply took screenshots of every possible 
 page in the document options, opened my finale doc in the main screen 
 and the images on my smaller screen and hacked through transferring 
 the settings one by one. yuck.
 
 thought i was being clever by naming all the screenshots (ties_short, 
 ties_medium, etc.) - i was to a degree, but should have prefixed 
 numbers to them (1a_xxx, 1b_xxx, ...) so they would be listed 
 alphabetically corresponding to the order in which they appear in the 
 dialogue tabs
 

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Re: [Finale] GPO

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Which isn’t contradicted by what I said. I prefer using the larger set for its 
variety.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 26/01/2015 kl. 15.20 skrev Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com:
 
 I assumed that the instruments included with Finale were identical to 
 the GPO instruments, just a subset.  Is that not true?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1/24/2015 10:12 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 Sorry, forgot to compare to the inherent Finale sounds
 
 Since I got the GPO, I never use the Finale sounds. Within the instruments 
 covered GPO has a way better variety. Specialties like alto and bass flutes 
 are also covered much better.
 
 Klaus
 
 Sendt fra min iPhone
 
 Den 25/01/2015 kl. 03.45 skrev James Cooper j...@modez.com:
 
 Can any of you share your experience using the full Garriton Personal
 Orchestra vs. the package that comes with Finale?  I am on FinWin 2014, and
 trying to figure out if it is worth it to me to get it.
 
 Thanks -- James C.
 
 
 
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[Finale] Keystroke for small natural?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

At

http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Content/Finale/Maestro_Font.htm#IX_Accidentals_4

I cannot understand the keystroke for the small natural. Actually I can’t
even read the sign after the first dash, as the resolution is too low for
my eyes.

But even if I could read that sign, the keystroke looks like a sequence of
two keystrokes. How to apply these?

I would be grateful for a good explanation. I am working on a Beethoven
transcription, which has a small natural in front of a turn. I cannot make
the combined sign into an articulation, but I already have made the similar
combination of a small sharp and a turn into an expression.

My workaround for now is about using the full size natural at point size 16.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Keystroke for small natural?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Thank you very much!

This gave me an idea about what the plain text equivalent sign is.   

Klaus 

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 Den 25/01/2015 kl. 11.46 skrev SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com:
 
 
 it is the character È (capital E with accent 
 grave) according to the manual, but it seems to 
 really be é (lowercase e with aigu, slot 233).
 
 it is a 2-key process to get it on a US keyboard 
 layout (opt-e followed by e for é), but on 
 french and some other keyboards it is a single 
 key.  so on the US keyboard layout you can't 
 select it using the keyboard in the Symbol 
 Selection dialogue box (to choose an alternate 
 character for the accidental.  howeer, you should 
 be able to type it in a text expression.
 
 
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[Finale] Keystroke for smal natural?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

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Maestro Font

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I cannot understand the keystroke for the small natural. Actually I can’t even 
read the sign after the first dash, as the resolution is too low for my eyes.
But even if I could read that sign, the keystroke looks like a sequence of two 
keystrokes. How to apply these?
I would be grateful for a good explanation. I am working on a Beethoven 
transcription, which has a small natural in front of a turn. I cannot make the 
combined sign into an articulation, but I already have made the similar 
combination of a small sharp and a turn into an expression.
Klaus
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Re: [Finale] GPO

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Sorry, forgot to compare to the inherent Finale sounds  

Since I got the GPO, I never use the Finale sounds. Within the instruments 
covered GPO has a way better variety. Specialties like alto and bass flutes are 
also covered much better. 

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPhone

 Den 25/01/2015 kl. 03.45 skrev James Cooper j...@modez.com:
 
 Can any of you share your experience using the full Garriton Personal
 Orchestra vs. the package that comes with Finale?  I am on FinWin 2014, and
 trying to figure out if it is worth it to me to get it.
 
 Thanks -- James C.
 
 
 
 
 
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 James Cooper
 Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
 www.ModeZ.com/default.asp
 
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Re: [Finale] GPO

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I have the GPO and I like it a lot. The solo strings and the woodwinds are very 
good. So are the horns and the tubas. The trumpets and the trombones are not 
blending too well as sections. Harps are good, but are relatively loud. 

Section string can be on the mushy side rhythmically. 

Mostly the professional ranges of instruments are covered, but trumpets are 
missing their lowest notes. Tubas are a bit limited in their top ranges. 

I also have the band version, but the GPO has way better note attacks. 

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPhone

 Den 25/01/2015 kl. 03.45 skrev James Cooper j...@modez.com:
 
 Garriton Personal
 Orchestra

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Re: [Finale] Garritan fin mac 14

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

When buying a Garritan product your personal authorisation has the form of 
picture that you download after creating it on the MM website. Then you drag 
the application icon on top of that photo or maybe the other way round. I have 
not seen this procedure in other contexts. It works and hasn't to be redone 
unless you reformat your disk or get a new computer. That is why I forgot the 
exact details. 

Klaus 


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 Den 18/01/2015 kl. 08.38 skrev Linda Worsley li...@lworsley.com:
 
 I don't expect a comprehensive outline of how to activate the Garritan
 Instant Orchestra which I bought and installed on my computer at the same
 time I upgraded and installed fin mac 2014.
 
 But can anyone tell me where on the internet I can find instructions for
 activating the instruments.  I am totally baffled.  On the MakeMuisc
 (Finale) web site I found a set of instructions that are incomprehensible.
 For example, the second instruction given (after close finale) is to
 download the file (below) and...
 
 But there is no file below anything.  Nothing to download.
 
 I need a bigger boat.
 
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] Improving leger line legibility (was Darken staff lines)

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I am not sure longer ledger lines are of any benefit.
For me it is way more important that ledger lines are separated from each other 
horizontally. If they touch or overlap they are next to impossible to discern 
from staff lines. Finale’s default keeps ledger lines separated, but if the 
engraver squeezes too many measures into a staff then they will touch or 
overlap.
Klaus  
 
  From: Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:28 AM
 Subject: [Finale] Improving leger line legibility (was Darken staff lines)
   
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:20:42 -0500
From: John Witmerwit...@nctv.com
Subject: [Finale] Darken staff lines

In addition to increasing the default settings for line thickness
(I prefer 0.012 for most thin lines including staff and leger lines,
barlines, repeat endings etc.) have you tried increasing the length of
the bits that stick out to the sides of leger line notes and rests?
(I'm using Windows, F.2014.)

Document / Document Options / Lines and Curves

I have the sideways extensions set to 0.028 (Finale doesn't like that and
changes it to something with more decimal places) for both notes and rests.
It may mean you need to allow extra horizontal space between notes on leger
lines so they don't run into each other and confuse where the staff begins
and ends. I think that's what Klaus was referring to (sorry, couldn't follow
that link).
   
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Re: [Finale] Darken staff lines

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I am somewhat younger than you, but as my right eyes is rotated 7° compared to 
my left eye, it takes some mental power to avoid double vision. Ledger lines 
are the first element to loose safe reading.
One aspect of good readability is about setting music with so much horizontal 
spacing that ledger lines are not compressed into each other.
And then I use fairly fat lines and even fatter ledger lines. They work for me, 
but they are vulnerable if printed by ink printers on bad paper, so that there 
is a noticeable bleeding.
You may see a screenshot of my line and curve settings in the document options 
window here:
Line settings FM2014d.png

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  From: John Witmer wit...@nctv.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:20 AM
 Subject: [Finale] Darken staff lines
   
As a 85 year old, I'm having trouble sightreading notes on ledger lines. Is 
there any way to darken the 5 lines of the regular staves so that the ledger 
lines are a little more distinguishable?
Thank you for any help.
John Witmer
Clemson Downs Retirement Center
Clemson, SC
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Re: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

‘should’ as in ‘likely will’.
Made in one single textblock in FM2014.png

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  It is long since I had a problem like yours. The link above here displays a 
screenshot sample of a text block in my current project. This extended title 
was made in one single text block in Finale Mac 2014d on a 9 years old Mac Pro 
running OSX 10.7.5 (which is anything but current). The sizes and styles were 
all edited within this text block. 
Klaus

 
  From: Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block
   
Klaus wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:29:26 +
From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com

 Word is what I use, but other text applications should
 do the same.

I've pretty much abolished the use of should and ought. :)

Changing point size doesn't work with Word Perfect even in
a brand new text block. I was pretty sure I had created a
new one, and have now checked.

For the moment I'm going with creating separate text blocks
if I want more than one font / size / style, as I haven't
needed to do anything seriously fiddly yet. I'm guessing that
I might be OK with a font or word processor that didn't
originate with another company. Commercial blackmail of a
rather subtle type?

Thanks for your input.

Patsy
   
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Re: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Word is what I use, but other text applications should do the same.
As for Finale switching the text size: Did you paste to a text block where a 
text of a given size had been deleted incompletely? Try pasting to a new text 
block. If spaces or other invisible elements are left, the formatting stays in 
the block.
K
 
  From: Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block
   


Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:04:30 +
From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerreyorkmaster...@yahoo.com

 Use Word or the like to write your text in the formatting
 you want. Then copy-paste it into an empty text-block.
 Klaus

That sounded like a good idea. Does it work for you with Word?

I don't use Word, being generally anti-Microsoft but unwilling
to switch allegiance to Mac for Finale. I've just tried doing
what you suggest in (Corel) Word Perfect. No problem in WP,
where I quickly made samples of my Copyright notice in Arial
14/10 point, 13/9 point and 12/8 point. I tried copying and
pasting the smallest. No problem with the process, but Finale
immediately changed it all to 12-point. :(

I might not find this quite so infuriating if I hadn't been
able to do it in Finale fifteen years ago the way I want now.
I feel as if I've just spent a lot of money on something that's
not yet fully fit for purpose.

Might my problems (there are others) be incompatibility between
Windows 8.1 and Finale 2014?

Patsy

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Re: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Use Word or the like to write your text in the formatting you want. Then 
copy-paste it into an empty text-block.
Klaus
 
  From: Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:50 PM
 Subject: [Finale] Can't change font size for part of a text block
   
Hello Listers,

I'm having a frustrating time finding (feels like excavating!) the 
useful information that allows me to use Finale 2014 in similar ways to 
what I've done in the past with 2000c. I'm relieved to find some 
positive improvements along the way, but...

...I've just wasted an unacceptable amount of time trying, with some 
input - not help - from the on line User Manual, to change the font size 
for just one character in a Text block, which has never previously 
caused me any problem. In my Copyright notice  I like to have the 
C-in-a-circle sign about the same height as the capital letters in the 
remainder of the notice. I can highlight just the one character, and 
that's what shows up in the edit menu, but when I change the size and 
exit the box the change has been applied to the whole text block. :(  
The same thing happens if I just try to change the year to bold.

My current time-saving work-around is to create a separate text block 
for the Copyright symbol. Ridiculous!! I've given up on the idea of a 
bold date (that was just an experiment to see if it was possible).


   
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Re: [Finale] non-US/CA users: keyboard layout

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I always switch to the US layout, when I need the two rightmost programable 
tool selection keys or when I need to create grace notes in Speedy.

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPhone

 Den 30/10/2014 kl. 08.38 skrev SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com:
 
 
 i use french-canadian keyboard layout but always switch to US when 
 using finale, as i always had the impression that was the layout that 
 the programme was built around.  then again, i have the english 
 version of the programme.
 
 the mapping to numbers and shift-numbers in german and french 
 keyboards is very different, so i am curious to know how users with 
 those keyboards deal.  do you change to US keyboard layout or do you 
 just learn with your keyboard layout?
 
 i'm trying to reorganize my fonts for better ordering of the characters.

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Re: [Finale] non-US/CA users: keyboard layout

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I don’t remember needing it for articulations. With tempo indications I use the 
note selection menu within the expression creation window. Beyond that I have 
to go to the online keymap anyway. 

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPhone

 Den 30/10/2014 kl. 09.33 skrev SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com:
 
 
 hi klaus, thanks.  you only use it for those tasks, and not for 
 selection of characters in the articulation definition palette, or 
 when creating text expressions that are music characters?
 
 I always switch to the US layout, when I need the two rightmost 
 programable tool selection keys or when I need to create grace notes 
 in Speedy.
 

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Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

So the Americans have staff sergeants, whereas the British have stave sergeants?

Klaus

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 Den 14/10/2014 kl. 11.40 skrev dc den...@free.fr:
 
 Le 14/10/2014 09:44, David H. Bailey écrit :
 Yes.
 
 Thanks for confirming, David!
 
 Dennis
 

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Re: [Finale] The Dutch Heart and soul list

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Please repeat the links. I have sent the original sending to the spam folder 
and then deleted them.

Klaus 



 From: Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] The Dutch Heart and soul list
 

On 6-10-2014 19:01, Lawrence Yates wrote:
 Just writing, interesting and a link gives me no confidence at all that
 the link isn't some kind of spam or virus.

I am very sorry. Not to worry. Those are links to lists of the top 300 
of the most favourite pieces of music, according to the listeners to the 
Dutch classical radio. The Matteus Passion is at number 1, not 
surprisingly. This is the average Dutch taste...





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Re: [Finale] Barline question

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Could you make a group consisting of all staves just for this purpose?

Klaus

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Re: [Finale] How do I get playback to skip some measures???

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

For me the simplest method would be about making a renamed copy of the file. 
And then just delete the bars of the jump.

Klaus

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Re: [Finale] Switching voices on two staves

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Jari Williamsson#39;s Staff Polyphony plugin. Use the swap function.

Klaus
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[Finale] Breath marks should not affect the pulse!

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

The Make Music folks apparently had listened to something they should not have 
listened to before the latest update of F2014!

One thing I liked about the b revision, possibly also the original F2014 was 
that I could place breath marks in my mostly for wind players scores with no 
effect on the musical pulse when applying Human Playback. That also is the way 
I want it when writing for choir and instruments in music, where a steady pulse 
is mandatory except for specified tempo changes like fermata, rallentando, or 
the likes.

Then a fairly recent thread here complained the lack of hesitation of the 
breath marks in choral scores. Really the breath marks were wanted to act as 
caesuras. 

I want the HP effect turned back, so that it has no effect on the pulse.

But then I also want the choir folks having an option to achieve their desired 
effect. So I have a suggestion for a solution:

The hanging comma in the present size should act as a pure breath mark with no 
tempo effect. Keyboard shortcut should remain the B.

The choir style caesure could use the hanging comma in a slightly larger size 
and then have the hesitating HP effect applied. I will leave the decision about 
the keyboard shortcut to Make Music.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Your posting came through, only I have no helpful answer.

Klaus

PS: Terrible source to work from!

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 16/07/2014 kl. 13.41 skrev Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually
 gotten through. Resending this one...
 
 
 
 I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple
 keyboards where the stems span staves like this image:
 
  http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg
 
 Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I
 have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a
 fire).
 
 Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and
 dragging to the other with the note mover tool?
 
 Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to
 enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and
 enter those notes, then change back and drag.
 
 My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard.
 
 Thanks,
 Dennis
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014c Update

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I had been annoyed that FM2014b was very slow in saving files. First tests 
indicate that FM2014c is bit faster in the saving process.

Klaus



 From: Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:39 AM
Subject: [Finale] Finale 2014c Update
 

Finale 2014c has just been released. Just installed and looks like it's 
working fine.

Giovanni

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Re: [Finale] [OT] engraving videos - german help?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Das muß ganz exact sein, der Händeausdruck wird gestochen.


It has to be exact, what the hand expresses ends up engraved.

Klaus



 From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 2:44 AM
Subject: [Finale] [OT] engraving videos - german help?
 


not 100% sure about what the guy says/means here, can anyone help?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=345o3Wu95Qo#t=418
das muß ganz exact sein, der händeausdruck wie gestochen
= it must be extremely precise, the hand pressure like a razor?

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[Finale] Fw: Key tool bug [Incident: 140421-000311]

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Problem NOT solved in FM2014b

Klaus

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To: yorkmaster...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:10 AM
Subject: Key tool bug [Incident: 140421-000311]
 


 Key tool bug 



Has your issue been resolved? We have not received a response regarding your 
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 Discussion Thread 
 Response Via Email (Nathan H) 04/22/2014 11:30 AM 
Hello Klaus -
Thanks for contacting MakeMusic customer support.  I created some quick test 
files and I was able to replicate and confirm the behavior.  It looks like 
Transpose all Key Proportionally isn't properly able to distinguish between 
corresponding major and minor key signatures -- if they share the same key 
signature this function is treating with the same transposition.  Transpose 
All Keys Proportionately worked fine in all other cases between both major and 
minor keys with different signatures.

This definitely looks like incorrect behavior for this tool, so I've gone 
ahead and written this up review by our product management team.  Hopefully 
this can be scoped and fixed in a future update or release.

In the meantime,
the best workaround would probably be to select Measure X until next key 
change under Measure Region, then do each key signature section separately.  
It's a little bit more time consuming as you'll have to bring up that Key 
Signature dialogue several times, but it should ensure that you get the correct 
key signature in place for all measures.

Please feel free to respond to this case if you have any further questions 
about this issue.

Nathan H
MakeMusic Customer Support

  
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Answer Link: More than one instrument
transposition on the same staff

 
 Customer By Web Form (Klaus Bjerre) 04/21/2014 04:12 PM 
Just found out of a horrible bug in FM2014a:

When transposing a duet edition for another pair of instruments I realised 
that the function of transposing all keys proportionally does not work. The 
whole piece ends up in the key of the opening section.

In my actual case the sequence should have been Ab major - F minor - Ab major, 
but the whole piece now is in Ab major a sixth below what it should have been 

Please correct this as soon as possible. 

Klaus

PS about the attached file: The instrumentation may seem weird, but I make 
custom versions on demand. Here I could use this version as the basis for 
versions in Ab for two tubas with the top line taken down an octave after the 
transposition down to
Ab. 
  
[---001:002321:43997---] 


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Re: [Finale] palettes and backgrounds - where?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Application preferences. 

Klaus

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Re: [Finale] Delete all page breaks?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Jari, for the sake of the non-code-nerds among us (may only be me), please load 
the formally finished plugin to your site.

Klaus

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Re: [Finale] Delete all page breaks?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Sad or not: I don't know how to run scripts.

Klaus



 From: Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Delete all page breaks?
 

On 2014-04-25 12:47, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 Jari, for the sake of the non-code-nerds among us (may only be me), please 
 load the formally finished plugin to your site.

It's a script. It's no more complicated than running a FinaleScript, 
although the user interface and functionality is different.



Best regards,

Jari Williamsson



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Re: [Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

MM recognized the error and outlined the workaround I already had used, as I 
had no time to wait. Their reply:

Hello Klaus -
Thanks for contacting MakeMusic customer support. I created some quick test 
files and I was able to replicate and confirm the behavior. It looks like 
Transpose all Key Proportionally isn't properly able to distinguish between 
corresponding major and minor key signatures -- if they share the same key 
signature this function is treating with the same transposition. Transpose All 
Keys Proportionately worked fine in all other cases between both major and 
minor keys with different signatures.

This definitely looks like incorrect behavior for this tool, so I've gone ahead 
and written this up review by our product management team. Hopefully this can 
be scoped and fixed in a future update or release.

In the meantime, the best workaround would probably be to select Measure X 
until next key change under Measure Region, then do each key signature section 
separately. It's a little bit more time consuming as you'll have to bring up 
that Key Signature dialogue several times, but it should ensure that you get 
the correct key signature in place for all measures.

Please feel free to respond to this case if you have any further questions 
about this issue.

Nathan H
MakeMusic Customer Support




 From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a
 

Wow, that is bizarre!

Please keep us informed about what sort of reply you receive from 
MakeMusic when you report the bug!

Thanks and good luck!
David



On 4/21/2014 1:20 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 It went down a sixth and started on Ab instead of F.  Accidental went odd.

 Klaus


 
 From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a


 On 4/21/2014 11:16 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:

 Just found out of a horrible bug in FM2014a:

 When transposing a duet edition for another pair of instruments I realised 
 that the function of transposing all keys proportionally does not work. 
 The whole piece ends up in the key of the opening section.

 In my actual case the sequence should have been Ab major - F minor - Ab 
 major, but the whole piece now is in Ab major.

 Please correct this as soon as possible.



 What happened to the section that was in F minor?  After all, it's the
 same key signature as Ab major -- did the pitches actually get
 transposed incorrectly?


 --
 David H. Bailey
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
 http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com



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[Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Just found out of a horrible bug in FM2014a:

When transposing a duet edition for another pair of instruments I realised that 
the function of transposing all keys proportionally does not work. The whole 
piece ends up in the key of the opening section.

In my actual case the sequence should have been Ab major - F minor - Ab major, 
but the whole piece now is in Ab major.

Please correct this as soon as possible. 

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

It went down a sixth and started on Ab instead of F.  Accidental went odd.

Klaus



 From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Terrible bug in FM2014a
 

On 4/21/2014 11:16 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:

 Just found out of a horrible bug in FM2014a:

 When transposing a duet edition for another pair of instruments I realised 
 that the function of transposing all keys proportionally does not work. The 
 whole piece ends up in the key of the opening section.

 In my actual case the sequence should have been Ab major - F minor - Ab 
 major, but the whole piece now is in Ab major.

 Please correct this as soon as possible.



What happened to the section that was in F minor?  After all, it's the 
same key signature as Ab major -- did the pitches actually get 
transposed incorrectly?


-- 
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com


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Re: [Finale] keyboard shortcuts not working in 2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

In a work session a few days ago, but after this thread started, I suddenly 
experienced this very problem for the first time, which made me think about 
what was different in this specific situation.

Atypically I had started working in a graphic application which allows being 
set to a very high usage of memory. I hadn't quit that application. 

Restarting and opening FM2014 first solved the problem. For the sake of testing 
this gain after reading your posting right after doing some photo editing I 
closed the graphical application and Word, so that only my browser was open. 
Then I started FM2014 and tested the keyboard shortcut for the flat in the Text 
tool. It worked.

My reading of this is that FM2014 prioritizes which parts of the application it 
reads into memory, when the access to RAM is limited. Shortcuts apparently have 
low priority.

Klaus



 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] keyboard shortcuts not working in 2014
 

It's still doing it, even if I haven't switched from another program in a
while. Keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work right after creating the text
block, regardless if I've recently switched back from another program.
After I use the menu with the mouse to make the insert or change the
alignment, then the keyboard shortcuts work.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.comwrote:

 It's a focus issue. After switching back to Finale from another
 application, you need to manually click on the menubar once before any of
 the keyboard shortcuts work. Text insert shortcuts also often require an
 additional click on the menubar before they begin working again.

 Cheers,

 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

 On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mac OS.
 
  Keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working reliably in 2014. When I'm in
  the staff group name window, I get the doink alert sound when I type a
  keyboard shortcut for text inserts. Using the mouse and menus works, but
  it's very inconvenient.
  Same thing happens when I want to resize using Command-Shift-.(period).
 
  Anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: [Finale] keyboard shortcuts not working in 2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Are you on 2014 or on 2014a

At least regarding sharps and flats this matter has been improved in FM2014a.

Klaus



 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:48 AM
Subject: [Finale] keyboard shortcuts not working in 2014
 

Mac OS.

Keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working reliably in 2014. When I'm in
the staff group name window, I get the doink alert sound when I type a
keyboard shortcut for text inserts. Using the mouse and menus works, but
it's very inconvenient.
Same thing happens when I want to resize using Command-Shift-.(period).

Anyone else experiencing this?


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Re: [Finale] Multi-measure glisses

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

In a trombone section context, where I wanted a long-note chord progression 
played normally the 1st time and glissed the second time I kept the original 
notes under the added glisses, which played back as wanted.

In your context write a tied E through the empty bars and let the gfliss go 
from the beginning of the E to the C.

Klaus



 From: David Wolfson da...@davidwolfsonmusic.net
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:51 PM
Subject: [Finale] Multi-measure glisses
 

This is a playback question: if I want to have, say, a violin gliss through a 
couple of otherwise empty measures, how on earth do I get Finale to play that 
back correctly?

If it's not clear: think of one bar in which the violin plays a top string E, 
then glisses upward over the next two bars (in which the notation would simply 
be a diagonal line across a blank measure), and in the fourth bar plays a C 
above the treble staff.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'm on Mac, using Finale 2011 if it matters.


davidwolfsonmusic.net



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Re: [Finale] OT Pistone?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

An Eb flugelhorn would have been named Flicorno sopranino in Italy. I have two 
of these, a Couesnon of Paris and an R. J. Ward of Liverpool.

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 16/03/2014 kl. 11.37 skrev Peter Taylor pe...@euphonium.plus.com:
 
 Thanks Ray and Michael.  I was imagining a Pistone was possibly one of those 
 old instruments in the brass family which have been superceded over time, 
 like the serpent.  I though it might mean a kind of soprano flugelhorn 
 possibly.  If it's a cornet then I'm pondering why it wasn't called a 
 Cornetto Mib.
 
 Someone has asked me to produce a modern (British) brass band set of a piece 
 by Amilcare Ponchielli, and Henry has very helpfully directed me to his 
 Pochiello website, which I'm sure is going to give me a lot of guidance.
 
 Many thanks again
 Peter


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Re: [Finale] OT Pistone?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Eb cornet.

Klaus



 From: Peter Taylor pe...@euphonium.plus.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:40 AM
Subject: [Finale] OT Pistone?
 

What's the modern English instrument equivalent to a Pistone Mib please? 
Am I right in assuming it is a Soprano Eb, not a Tenor. 



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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)

Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures or 
combinations of full and partial measures

Right click the selected passage and click Select clef

The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key

Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
shortcuts for the given clef.

Maybe this is more helpful:

http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool


Klaus



 From: Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
 

Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, with 
the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the very first 
one?


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Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

As sort of a courtesy clef indication? Never tried that before, but I might 
imagine the road I would suggest:

In the online help facility find the keyboard equivalent for the bass clef in 
your given music font, and create the bass clef as an expression.

By means of TGTools create space before the first note of the measure.

Place the bass clef expression manually at the beginning of the given measure.

Klaus



 From: Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
 

Thank you Klaus. My problem si slightly different while I don't have to 
specify a new clef but just show up the existing one. In this case the clef 
appears after the time and key signature.

Giovanni Andreani

 On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
 Go to the Clef Tool (symbol is Bass Clef)
 
 Select the passage that needs a new clef - may be partial or full measures 
 or combinations of full and partial measures
 
 Right click the selected passage and click Select clef
 
 The Clef Tool window comes up, where you may click the desired key
 
 Please note that the number or letter in the brackets are the keyboard 
 shortcuts for the given clef.
 
 Maybe this is more helpful:
 
 http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Finale.htm#Finale/Tut4EditingYourMusic3.htm?Highlight=clef%20tool
 
 
 Klaus
 
 
 
 From: Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
 Subject: [Finale] Properly Showing Clef Time and Key in any Measure
 
 
 Is there anyway to show a clef in a measure different from the first one, 
 with the key and time signatures also showing as if the measure was the 
 very first one?
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[Finale] MIDI note numbers for percussion?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Sorry for asking basic questions, but I must do some misreading of the FM2014 
percussion map in the online manual.

From Garritan I have the personal orchestra as well as the marching band sound 
libraries. I prefer the quality of the GPO sounds, but will accept the band 
sounds if nothing else will work.

I have managed to make a very well sounding bass drum line. But I cannot make 
the cymbal line work at all. I want the sound of handheld orchestral cymbals 
with a long decay, if the note value tells so. Which MIDI note number should I 
go for? 

Next problem will be tenor drum.  Which MIDI note number should I go for? 

The is a tenor drum sound in the band library, but a GPO sound of a side drum 
with no snares might be the best. Which MIDI note number should I go for in 
this case?

Timpanies and Glockenspiel are so much easier to handle!

Thanks!

Klaus  
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Re: [Finale] Problem with fonts

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

My first step in solving finale font problems on the Mac would be about 
quitting Finale and opening FontBook (or whatever the English name is) and 
check for duplicate fonts.

Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

Klaus



 From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Problem with fonts
 

Finale is the only program I own that I have ever had to trash preferences 
for, and I have owned only Macs since 1990. I don't know why. I also don't 
know why recent versions of OSX started to hide the preferences folder, 
complicating the trash prefs procedure.

Macs perform routine maintenance at the moment of power up, so the only thing 
to remember if you are in the habit of putting your computer to sleep instead 
of turning it off, is to reboot it once a week or so. The under the hood 
stuff is very rare in my experience (plugging in a new printer or MIDI device 
or transferring data from a phone or camera is a breeze!), but between 
trashing prefs and messing with the font manager every second week because of 
Finale, I am getting good at those two things.

Christopher


On Tue Jan 14, at TuesdayJan 14 7:23 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:

 On 1/13/2014 8:11 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
 Have you tried trashing the Finale preferences? The procedure changes
 according to the OS, so you had better find out where the correct
 prefs file is stored. I do not, however, suggest trashing it and then
 emptying the trash the way they suggest, as this may not solve the
 problem and then you have a raw prefs file to reconstruct. I prefer
 to drag it to the desktop, restart Finale, and see if that solves it.
 If so, then trash the file. If it didn't solve anything, then you can
 replace the new prefs with your old file.
 
 
 Is this a common problem with Mac programs or is it just poor 
 programming on the part of Finale developers?  I don't recall any of the 
 Mac users on the Sibelius group ever running into this problem.
 
 I'm a Windows person and am not asking in an attempt to start a platform 
 war, but my daughter has a Mac, having given up on Windows and my wife 
 is considering doing the same and I have a genuine concern over whether 
 such under the hood repair work, common in Windows, is becoming more 
 common in OSX.
 
 My daughter is very happy with her MacBookPro only having problems 
 getting NetFlix to work properly all the time but it's not enough of a 
 problem to get her to change back to Windows.  But she doesn't do overly 
 complicated things -- surfs the web, spends time on FaceBook and other 
 social networking sites and does basic wordprocessing functions.
 
 My wife, on the other hand, does more intricate things, among them is 
 using Finale on a regular basis and using WordPerfect's page layout 
 functions (she's constantly frustrated trying to do the same things in 
 Word), and I just want to know in advance what we may be getting into 
 (computer maintenance and tech-support) if she makes the switch.
 
 Thank you for any calm non-flaming insights that anybody can offer.
 
 
 -- 
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 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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[Finale] Problem with the saving process in FM2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

In my current project I used a FM2012 file as template. Which I have done 
before without problems, and I am not aware that I have changed any settings 
aside of the destination folder for the asv-files, which had jumped to the 
default folder.

I use to save a file after having done a major operation like a transposition. 
However now the file is save as a new file with the same name, only a ~ is 
entered between the end of the name and the .musx suffix. I didn't notice that 
at once so I saved one of these new files resulting in a third file with ~~ in 
the same place of the file name.

What have I done wrong? 

How to remedy the problem?

Klaus

PS: My workaround is about doing a Save as, but that takes the extra step of 
deleting the original file.
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Re: [Finale] Problem with the saving process in FM2014 - Solved!

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Problem disappeared when starting the Mac up again for a new work session.

Klaus



 From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
To: Finale@shsu.edu Finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 12:32 AM
Subject: [Finale] Problem with the saving process in FM2014
 

In my current project I used a FM2012 file as template. Which I have done 
before without problems, and I am not aware that I have changed any settings 
aside of the destination folder for the asv-files, which had jumped to the 
default folder.

I use to save a file after having done a major operation like a transposition. 
However now the file is save as a new file with the same name, only a ~ is 
entered between the end of the name and the .musx suffix. I didn't notice that 
at once so I saved one of these new files resulting in a third file with ~~ in 
the same place of the file name.

What have I done wrong? 

How to remedy the problem?

Klaus

PS: My workaround is about doing a Save as, but that takes the extra step of 
deleting the original file.
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Re: [Finale] tuplets in Finale 2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I may be me, but I cannot see how the math adds up in the way you describe it.

Klaus 



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To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:07 AM
Subject: [Finale] tuplets in Finale 2014
 

Recently I upgraded from Finale 2003 to 2014. I am having a strange problem 
with the tuplet tool. I am trying to enter a dotted eight note followed by a 
regular eight note as 5 16ths in the time of 4 16ths. Finale is letting me 
enter 4 16ths, then, when I click on the tuplet tool, it shows my 4 16ths 
followed by a dotted 32nd rest. Have any of you had this problem, and is 
anyone familiar with the way of fixing or working around it?

Aaron J. Rabushka

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Re: [Finale] tuplets in Finale 2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Bad spelling, too, by me after a long night of work.

In Finale 2014 on my desktop Mac I enter tuplets in Speedy Entry.

Pressing alt+5 I enter the first sixteenth and the the next ones. If you want a 
5/16 tuplet, you have to enter a sixteenth as the first note to tell Finale the 
denominator. But you may edit the length of that first note after it has been 
entered.
Klaus 



 From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] tuplets in Finale 2014
 

I may be me, but I cannot see how the math adds up in the way you describe it.

Klaus 




 From: arabus...@austin.rr.com arabus...@austin.rr.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:07 AM
Subject: [Finale] tuplets in Finale 2014
 

Recently I upgraded from Finale 2003 to 2014. I am having a strange problem 
with the tuplet tool. I am trying to enter a dotted eight note followed by a 
regular eight note as 5 16ths in the time of 4 16ths. Finale is letting me 
enter 4 16ths, then, when I click on the tuplet tool, it shows my 4 16ths 
followed by a dotted 32nd rest. Have any of you had this problem, and is 
anyone familiar with the way of fixing or working around it?

Aaron J. Rabushka

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Re: [Finale] Locating the Plug-in Folder

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Took a screenshot of the Application Support window with relevant folders 
opened:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/096wqvq0bi03pw0/Plugin%20path.png


Klaus



 From: Glen Daum glend...@mac.com
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Locating the Plug-in Folder
 

Jari,

I meant Application Support. It isn't showing up. I wonder why not?

Glen

Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:20 AM, Jari Williamsson 
 jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
 
 On 2013-12-11 11:07, Glen Daum wrote:
 
 I know that this must have been discussed previously, but I'm having 
 difficulty making
 the Plug-in folder appear in my Mac Finder. I go to 
 Library––Applications––Make Music––Finale 2014 and it's not there.
 What am I missing? Is there some trick I have to do to access it?
 
 It's in Application Support, not Applications.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jari Williamsson
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] #5

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Accidental: something that happens, when the music strays from its original key.

Klaus



 From: John Witmer wit...@nctv.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] #5
 

My music theory teacher always called them on purposes, not accidentals'

John
- Original Message - 
From: terry cano tcanomu...@yahoo.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] #5


 OK so while we are on the subject ;) Why are accidentals called 
 accidentals? 'don't bout you but I place them there on purpose not by 
 accident ;) Actually, that statement is from a composition teacher that I 
 once had.
 It is one of my favorites.
 Terry





 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:16 AM, Chuck Israels 
 cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 There's a reason they are called courtesy.

 Chuck


 On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Jim Dukey oldm...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Weak? Then I've known and played with SO Many Weak Players,
 from the San Francisco Symphony, and virtually ALL groups I've ever 
 played in.
 Players who mark their parts to be SURE of the accidentals.
 Check your precious Finale Parts sometime, see what the players marked 
 in.
 Or the Conductor.
 See how they ruined them…
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Re: [Finale] Instrument list illegible?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I am on Mac, but I would assume Windows has similar options for choosing font 
interpretation settings. Long since I set up my system, but there are various 
ISO and various national systems. Myself operating in Danish, German, and 
English only one system works and oddities happen, if I choose a different one. 

Could your original setting at this root level have gone corrupted?

Klaus



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To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Instrument list illegible?
 

On Fri, November 15, 2013 5:33 pm, Jari Williamsson wrote:
 On 2013-11-15 14:36, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

 Finale 2014, WinXPSP3.

 It seems to work okay so far, but the instrument list (now moved to the
 score
 manager) looks like this:
   http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/finale-2014-instrumentlist-wtf.jpg

 The font for the window title looks very different than what see on my
 system, but I'm on Win7. Perhaps it's a Windows scheme thing? Probably
 best to check with Tech support about this.

Okay, will do.

If I click on any element, the droplist is the correct size, but I can't have
any overview of what's there.

I have my WinXP set to 'classic' borders and headers with my own color choices.

Thanks,

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[Finale] FM2014: Missing keyboard shortcuts in text handling

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I very often revise staff and group names between various instrumental versions 
of hymn scores.

Working on a new edition today I realized that the keyboard shortcuts for 
accidentals are no longer there. Going to the Text menu every time is not so 
nice. Neither can I control italics from the keyboard.

And then there is an oddity in working with the editing windows. When the text 
has been finished, I cannot exit the window by means of any of the enter keys. 
And the mouse cursor remains an insertion cursor also above the OK button, 
until I have clicked something outside the Finale window.

Not being a code person I don't see any reasons to remove said work 
facilitators.

I recycle a lot of text elements from older editions. Opening an older file in 
FM2012 in one monitor and copying these elements to the new file opened in 
FM2012 on another monitor works perfectly so far.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Re(2): Invisible Invisible Layers in Fin 2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I today experienced the same work situation with two layers in a keyboard part. 
And FM2014 let me see the notes in the other layer. 

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 06/11/2013 kl. 11.24 skrev Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu:
 
 Thank you David, unfortunately it's not working: I selected Show - Hidden 
 Notes and Rests as you suggested, then tried to fiddle with the options in 
 the layers document options panel but just can't see those hidden layers in 
 speedy entry.
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.eu
 
 If you want to see the hidden notes/rests, under the View menu, click on 
 Show and then select Hidden Notes and Rests.
 
 I hope that does what you're looking for.
 
 David H. Bailey
 
 
 On 11/6/2013 4:39 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
 In Fin 2011 I could see, while entering notes via speedy entry tool,
 other notes already set in a different layer and grayed out when Hyde
 Layer when Inactive was deselected.
 This for me was a very useful feature, as having to enter an invisible
 notation that would have to playback differently from the visible one.
 In Finale 2014 it seems that hidden layers are no longer visible in
 this way.
 
 Probably got to set something differently?
 
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[Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014.

However I mostly get messages like these:

While attempting to access “KB Koral basis 2012.mus” the File Manager reported 
an error.


While attempting to access “EnigmaTemp-1449746605” the File Manager reported an 
error.

Anything I can do?

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I may have found a reason for the problem:

In 2006 I bought the then best Mac Pro desktop, which is still my main 
workhorse for all serious work also in Finale. It is fast enough for smooth 
playback, redraws sufficiently fast, and with its two video cards it allows me 
to run four monitors: one for musical source files, one for tool palettes 
(especially the score manager), and two for different views of the score worked 
on.

But this Mac Pro cannot run any system newer than OS X 10.7.5. And it has a 
quite slow start up, so I only use it for when I plan on longer work sessions.

Much of my musical proofreading happens in my head while I do other things. 
When I get in doubt about what I wrote then I open the files for a look on my 
newer Mac Book Pro (runs the newest system) to which I do back-ups via my LAN.  

I tried opening a large and complex (for me) FM2012 file in FM2014 on the Mac 
Book, and that worked all fine. I opened that converted file on my older 
desktop. 

When I opened via LAN from the laptop disk it looked all fine, except that the 
File Manager looked like the Garritan Personal Orchestra sounds had not been 
set. Playback however was all fine with the right sounds.

I then transferred the converted file back to the disk of the desktop Mac and 
opened it from there. Same result, but for one oddity:

The timpani line had blocks of grey artifacts at the bottom of the stave and 
just below. That part has a lot of rolls notated with the 3 fat strokes tremolo 
articulation. I could see that the grey blots actually are the very small 
single note values of the rolls being tightly compressed. I tried printing the 
file to .pdf and the artifacts do not print to .pdf. Still they look ugly in 
the Finale window.

You likely haven't tested every Finale aspect with older systems, but as 10.7.5 
has the main features to run FM2014, it would be nice if the problems with the 
non-opening FM2012 files and with the said artifacts would be correct in an 
update.

Klaus



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jphill...@makemusic.com wrote:
 
After a reboot, does the same problem occur?
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On 11/5/13, 3:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
wrote:

I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014.

However I mostly get messages like these:

While attempting to access ³KB Koral basis 2012.mus² the File Manager
reported an error.


While attempting to access ³EnigmaTemp-1449746605² the File Manager
reported an error.

Anything I can do?

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Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering 
my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I 
am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize 
this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores.

Klaus



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net 
wrote:
 
I have 2012c working pretty well, and this 
discussion has convinced me that this is no time 
to be an early-adopter of the new one...   I will 
let these experts debug it first!

Phil.

At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote:
I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random
and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions.  But
from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014.
I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave.

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Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Good advice, the artifacts disappeared after a forced redraw. 

If only the inability to open the FM2012 files could be solve equally easy.

Thanks!

Klaus



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering 
my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I 
am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize 
this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores.

Klaus



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net 
wrote:

I have 2012c working pretty well, and this 
discussion has convinced me that this is no time 
to be an early-adopter of the new one...   I will 
let these experts debug it first!

Phil.

At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote:
I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random
and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions.  But
from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014.
I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave.

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[Finale] Minor graphical problems in FM2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

One is related to the non-opening of FM2014 files:

A small grey box appears telling that conversion is needed and from which 
version the conversion is assumed to happen (it doesn't actually happen). When 
I OK the warning windows about the non-opening, then the grey 
conversion-reporting box stay on one of the monitors until I quit FM2014. That 
will be a PITA when I start working full tilt with a new project needing 
unharmed visibility on all monitors.

The other problem likely is about doing some changes to some settings, but it 
hasn't come up before, so I don't know what to do:

All notes beyond a quite narrow amateur range in brass staves plus the low G in 
a violin stave have their heads browned. That really disturbs my score reading.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Minor graphical problems in FM2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Again thanks, Justin! The browning problem was solved.

And another change from FM2012, where windows opened on the monitor from where 
I had closed the file. In FM2014 all new files open in a very small window in 
the lower left corner of the monitor, where the system menu bar is (not one of 
my two main working monitors when it come to Finale work). 

Any chance files can be made opening in the same work situation as from where 
they were closed?

Klaus



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:57 PM, Phillips, Justin 
jphill...@makemusic.com wrote:
 
For the first issue, this should¹t be happening and it seems like a
conversion hangup is occurring somewhere that I haven¹t seen before.

For the orange notes, that¹s a range indicator. You can turn it off under
View menu  Out-of-Range Notes  Off.
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On 11/5/13, 4:50 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
wrote:

One is related to the non-opening of FM2014 files:

A small grey box appears telling that conversion is needed and from which
version the conversion is assumed to happen (it doesn't actually happen).
When I OK the warning windows about the non-opening, then the grey
conversion-reporting box stay on one of the monitors until I quit FM2014.
That will be a PITA when I start working full tilt with a new project
needing unharmed visibility on all monitors.

The other problem likely is about doing some changes to some settings,
but it hasn't come up before, so I don't know what to do:

All notes beyond a quite narrow amateur range in brass staves plus the
low G in a violin stave have their heads browned. That really disturbs my
score reading.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Minor graphical problems in FM2014

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

As told in a recent thread: four, two biggest on the desk, two slightly smaller 
ones above them.

The lower big ones are for Finale (and other work/reading), the upper ones are 
for toolbars and possibly for references.

Klaus





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jphill...@makemusic.com wrote:
 
How many monitors do you have?
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On 11/5/13, 5:18 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Again thanks, Justin! The browning problem was solved.

And another change from FM2012, where windows opened on the monitor from
where I had closed the file. In FM2014 all new files open in a very small
window in the lower left corner of the monitor, where the system menu bar
is (not one of my two main working monitors when it come to Finale work).

Any chance files can be made opening in the same work situation as from
where they were closed?

Klaus



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:57 PM, Phillips, Justin
jphill...@makemusic.com wrote:
 
For the first issue, this should¹t be happening and it seems like a
conversion hangup is occurring somewhere that I haven¹t seen before.

For the orange notes, that¹s a range indicator. You can turn it off under
View menu  Out-of-Range Notes  Off.
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On 11/5/13, 4:50 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
wrote:

One is related to the non-opening of FM2014 files:

A small grey box appears telling that conversion is needed and from
which
version the conversion is assumed to happen (it doesn't actually
happen).
When I OK the warning windows about the non-opening, then the grey
conversion-reporting box stay on one of the monitors until I quit
FM2014.
That will be a PITA when I start working full tilt with a new project
needing unharmed visibility on all monitors.

The other problem likely is about doing some changes to some settings,
but it hasn't come up before, so I don't know what to do:

All notes beyond a quite narrow amateur range in brass staves plus the
low G in a violin stave have their heads browned. That really disturbs
my
score reading.

Klaus
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[Finale] FM2014 playback

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

? = That's me after trying playback in FM2014.

I have setup Garriutan sounds for each part.

I have set the midi and device parameters exactly like in FM2012, where the 
sound is played over my home theatre.

But FM2014 plays back through the internal speaker of my desktop Mac. Useless!

And yes, I went back and tested whether playback works in FM2012. It does.

Disappointed , that's also me.

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Re: [Finale] FM2014 playback

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Hurrah for Justin!

Hurrah for this list!

Exactly the parameter I hadn't thought of!

Playback works in FM2014!

Thanks!

Klaus



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If you go to MIDI/Audio Setup  Device Setup  Audio Setup, what is
selected under Audio Output as your output device?
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On 11/4/13, 10:56 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
wrote:

? = That's me after trying playback in FM2014.

I have setup Garriutan sounds for each part.

I have set the midi and device parameters exactly like in FM2012, where
the sound is played over my home theatre.

But FM2014 plays back through the internal speaker of my desktop Mac.
Useless!

And yes, I went back and tested whether playback works in FM2012. It does.

Disappointed , that's also me.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Unwanted Doubled Note One Octave Above

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Are you entering notes from a MIDI keyboard with an 8'+ 4' double stop setting?
 
Klaus



On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:08 AM, Giovanni Andreani 
i...@giovanniandreani.eu wrote:
 
Hello,

While entering notes in speedy entry finale 2011 is adding a second note one 
octave above which I never asked for. I tried to uncheck whatever I could 
inadvertently have selected but can't find the way out of this.
Any suggestions?




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Re: [Finale] Unwanted Doubled Note One Octave Above

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I use an Oxygen midi-controller for Finale work. It doesn't have a double stop 
facility. My idea came from my Roland electronic church organ, which has 10 or 
so stops to be combined. I never used it for note entry. 

But then your problem actually was keyboard related.

Finale creates octave passages from the transposition facility, if you checK 
Keep original pitches (or something to that effect).

Klaus



On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:32 AM, Giovanni Andreani 
i...@giovanniandreani.eu wrote:
 
No, but I just found out that turning my keyboard off (a Yamaha P-90 stage 
piano) and switching it back on has turned things back to normal. Still don't 
know what happened. Where do you set the 8'+ 4' double stop?

Thank you
Giovanni

Are you entering notes from a MIDI keyboard with an 8'+ 4' double stop
setting?
 
Klaus



On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:08 AM, Giovanni Andreani
i...@giovanniandreani.eu wrote:
 
Hello,

While entering notes in speedy entry finale 2011 is adding a second
note one octave above which I never asked for. I tried to uncheck
whatever I could inadvertently have selected but can't find the way out
of this.
Any suggestions?




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Re: [Finale] Adding new staves to a (nearly) finished score

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Staf Tool = Hide empty staves

Klaus



On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 3:53 PM, Robert Patterson 
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I need to add a couple of staves to a score that is nearly complete. (For
string divisi.) The problem is, when I do so it destroys all my
optimization up to that point because it forces the new staff to appear on
all the previous pages. Is there any way to have this not happen when I add
a staff?
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Re: [Finale] Finale Compatibility for Mavericks

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I only have Mavericks on my MacBook, which is not my main tool for work in 
Finale. Took the occasion to try opening a 5 part vocal score.

Took the installation of Java runtime (on promt, and done automatically from 
there), but then it opened with no problems. Playback with Garritan often is a 
vulnerable spot, but that worked fine, too.

Klaus



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I don't know specifically about Finale and Mavericks, but for all you Mac users 
out there, visit roaringapps.com for a one-stop location to check compatibility 
of your apps with various recent Mac OS's.

(The column regarding Finale products and Mavericks is blank -- there must not 
be any reports yet).

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Re: [Finale] Split Finale Document

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

If nothing else works:

Make a copy of the document and rename it adequately.

Delete all measures before and after the desired movement.

Klaus



On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:48 PM, Robert Patterson 
rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:
 
Is there a simple way (plugin or function I've missed) to split, for
example, the 3rd movement of a multi-movement file into its own separate
Finale file, preserving layout? Basically, the opposite of ScoreMerger...
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Re: [Finale] Split Finale Document

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

OK, then there is the option to convert the whole piece to a .pdf-file and then 
dele the unwanted pages from within Adobe Acrobat. Takes the professional 
version. 

If you want a new first page, then convert it to .pdf and place as the 1st page 
of the .pdf file with the music.

If you don't have the professional Acrobat version and if you are in a pinch, I 
will do the modifications of the .pdf file(-s) for you. No charge. Please tell 
exactly what you want.

There also is an option of handling the .pdf matters in Preview on Mac, but 
there I am without any experience.

Klaus



On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:58 PM, Robert Patterson 
rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:
 
But that destroys the page layout. This is an orchestra piece with manually
vertical spacing on every system.


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Michael Mathew 
mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That is the solution I always use!

 Michael Mathew
 mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
 http://oregonmts.com/mathew/



 On Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:52 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
 yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:

 If nothing else works:

 Make a copy of the document and rename it adequately.

 Delete all measures before and after the desired movement.

 Klaus



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 rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:

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 example, the 3rd movement of a multi-movement file into its own separate
 Finale file, preserving layout? Basically, the opposite of ScoreMerger...
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Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Sure that is the exact app name?

Looked in the App Store from my OSX 10.7.5 desktop as well as from my OSX10.8.5 
desktop and didn#x27;t see it.

A version for the older desktop would be most import for my work in Finale 2012.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] finale win't stop

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Or operate via Cmd-Tab. As Chuck tells, the main imperative is getting Finale 
to the front again.

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad

 Den 09/10/2013 kl. 22.56 skrev Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net:
 
 I know this phenomenon well.  It happens if you activate another app while 
 Finale is playing back something.  The problem is that the other app takes 
 precedence and you cannot get back to Finale for control, but it is easily 
 cured.  Simply click on the Finale app icon in the dock and that puts Finale 
 in the foreground, and the controls work normally.
 
 This is an easy one!
 
 Chuck
 
 On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
FIN-MAC 2012
 
 Sometimes when I have Finale playing back (Ah0h) it simply will not stop 
 until it reaches the end. The computer keyboard seems frozen and powerless. 
 I try all the various known ,methods plus a dozen or so never tried before 
 (heh heh) but usually all I can do is Force Quit or listen to it play itself 
 out (ho-hum!) This possibly is related to if there's another app involved 
 too, such as Audacity and Finale, but I can;t swear by that.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Richard
 
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Re: [Finale] copy time signatures

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

You need to copy the full stack of measures from the original document.

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] copy time signatures

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

The destination setup does NOT have to be identical to that of the source.

If I make a second version for a different ensemble setup, it sometimes is 
impractical to copy the full source score. I then make a temporary file where I 
delete all but the top stave. I the copy the full contents of the temporary 
file to the destination file.

Klaus 




 From: Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] copy time signatures
 

I think all staves in score must be showing and destination must have 
identical staff setup. 

Steve P. 

 On 24 Sep 2013, at 07:01, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Copying from one document to another.  The source has varied time 
 signatures, but they are not copying to the new document.  Copy All 
 selected.  What am I missing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
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Re: [Finale] copy time signatures

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

My temporary files are scores with just one stave. Holds time and key changes, 
tempo indications, rehearsal numbers, and possibly more not remembered right 
here.

Klaus

On 9/24/2013 2:08 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 The destination setup does NOT have to be identical to that of the source.

 If I make a second version for a different ensemble setup, it sometimes is 
 impractical to copy the full source score. I then make a temporary file 
 where I delete all but the top stave. I the copy the full contents of the 
 temporary file to the destination file.


But your temporary file has to have the same setup as that of the score 
-- no matter what you call it, the place you initially paste the 
contents from one score has to equal the setup of the place you are 
copying from.

Of course you can then do any edits you want in the temporary file and 
the copy to the final destination, but that fill will have to be the 
same setup as the temporary file.


-- 
David H. Bailey
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Re: [Finale] Strange note heads

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Check the font settings in the document options.

Klaus

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Den 29/05/2013 kl. 19.21 skrev Elektra Kurtis let...@gowebway.com:

 Hi All
 
 Can anyone give advice on why my old finale files appear with triangle note 
 heads and are unreadable. How can I remedy that and get my files back?
 
 Thanks so much
 
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Re: [Finale] Are the free (bundled) Garritan sounds the same as the GPO and Concert Band sounds?

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

I don't have the JBB library, but the GPO and the band versions. The band 
version has light versions of some instruments, which are recommended if the 
computer is short of memory. The GPO comes with a light version of choir sounds.

I suspect some of the sounds coming with Finale being the light versions, but 
others worked pretty well for me before I got the GPO. The bowed low strings 
come to mind.

Playing bassbone myself I also have found the Finale bassbone sound very harsh. 
But then I also have found recorded bassbones much brighter than what I heard 
from my own instruments. A dark bass trombone tends to drown in the mix.

My worst problem right now is that the band library sounds are way too quiet to 
mix with the GPO sounds. Sad as GPO brass sounds are way better than their band 
library equivalents.

Klaus 




 From: Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com
To: Finale News List finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: [Finale] Are the free (bundled) Garritan sounds the same as the GPO 
and Concert Band sounds?
 

I have the Garritan JBB library, and of course the basic library that 
comes with Finale 2012.

I am getting better at making the playback sound halfway authentic for 
big bands.  So yesterday I decided to work on a trombone quartet piece.  
For this, I used the bundled sounds: the three solo tenor trombones and 
the solo bass trombone.  The tenor trombones sound so-so, but the bass 
trombone sounds really coarse and thin-bodied. I hope I don't usually 
sound like that on bass trombone.

My question is whether these free bundled instruments are considered 
full function sounds or are they intentionally a lower quality than 
those you purchase separately.  And similarly, should I expect the GPO 
library to sound better than the bundled sounds, instrument for instrument?

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[Finale] Garritan band library

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Bought the Garritan Personal Orchestra some months ago. The better depth and 
more richness in details compared to the fewer sound samples coming with FM2012 
have pleased me and been helpful in my work.

Now I wanted to do a brass band version of a recent project, where it would 
have been of benefit to work with cornet sounds over the GPO trumpets. Also to 
have access to the alto/tenor horn sounds over the orchestral horn sounds. Same 
for a greater variety of baritone, euphonium, and tuba sounds.

So I listened to the sound samples on the makemusic site. And I was deeply 
disappointed by the artificial, glassy, orchestrion quality of the soundscape.

Do I have a wose than usual ear-day, or have others had similar experiences?

Is the band library being in version 2 over the GPO being in version 4 a hint 
that the band library is kind of outdated?

Klaus
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Re: [Finale] Garritan band library

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

 I certainly agree about the desirability of having the more varied selection 
of band specific brass sounds. 
The problems I perceived were with the upper overtones sounding shallow with 
the band sound samples But then I might use the orchestral woodwind sounds 
where I find them preferable. I like the clarinet sounds of the GPO.

Thanks!
Klaus
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] Garritan band library
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 2:25 PM

I can't speak to matters of taste, but i can say that there are a great
many MORE brass samples in Garritan Band than in GPO.  Euphs vs. baritones,
etc.  I find for brass band work it is quite helpful.


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Bought the Garritan Personal Orchestra some months ago. The better depth
 and more richness in details compared to the fewer sound samples coming
 with FM2012 have pleased me and been helpful in my work.

 Now I wanted to do a brass band version of a recent project, where it
 would have been of benefit to work with cornet sounds over the GPO
 trumpets. Also to have access to the alto/tenor horn sounds over the
 orchestral horn sounds. Same for a greater variety of baritone, euphonium,
 and tuba sounds.

 So I listened to the sound samples on the makemusic site. And I was deeply
 disappointed by the artificial, glassy, orchestrion quality of the
 soundscape.

 Do I have a wose than usual ear-day, or have others had similar
 experiences?

 Is the band library being in version 2 over the GPO being in version 4 a
 hint that the band library is kind of outdated?

 Klaus

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Re: [Finale] Garritan band library

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Thanks!

One bad point about the sound samples at the MM site is that there is no brass 
band sample.

I took the jump anyway and bought the band library. Even has it installed and 
sounds applied to the score sketch I am working at.

First play back of the opening revealed a marked difference by using cornet 
versus trumpet sounds. I am aware I have to work with the parameters re. 
equalizing, panning, and balance.

Klaus




 From: Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Garritan band library
 

There are a few points I might raise here:
1. Brasses are difficult to sample due to the complex overtones.
2. Homogeneous ensembles such as brass bands create problems as well.
3. The overtone situation Klaus describes can be adjusted via EQ. Go into the 
ARIA player and cut or boost frequencies to taste.
4. I find the base velocity in Finale's HP to be too low, yielding mushy 
attacks for brasses. Try increasing the base velocity to taste.
5.it is imperative to avoid simultaneous attacks. HP does that to some extent, 
but I haven't taken the time to determine how much.
6. Use reverb judiciously, avoiding extremes of wet and dry.
7.try panning similar tone colors on opposite sides of the stereo field if 
musically logical
8. Try automating reverb or EQ as a function of an instrument's dynamics or 
prominence
9. All the above would be MUCH easier if Finale's MIDI tool were easier to 
use. Right now it's a pain.
10. Don't expect anything just using the sounds out of the box
11. Not even the $5K libraries will do a great job of reproducing a brass band.
Jim

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I certainly agree about the desirability of having the more varied 
selection of band specific brass sounds. 
 The problems I perceived were with the upper overtones sounding shallow with 
 the band sound samples But then I might use the orchestral woodwind sounds 
 where I find them preferable. I like the clarinet sounds of the GPO.
 
 Thanks!
 Klaus
 --- On Wed, 4/24/13, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Garritan band library
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 2:25 PM
 
 I can't speak to matters of taste, but i can say that there are a great
 many MORE brass samples in Garritan Band than in GPO.  Euphs vs. baritones,
 etc.  I find for brass band work it is quite helpful.
 
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
 yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Bought the Garritan Personal Orchestra some months ago. The better depth
 and more richness in details compared to the fewer sound samples coming
 with FM2012 have pleased me and been helpful in my work.
 
 Now I wanted to do a brass band version of a recent project, where it
 would have been of benefit to work with cornet sounds over the GPO
 trumpets. Also to have access to the alto/tenor horn sounds over the
 orchestral horn sounds. Same for a greater variety of baritone, euphonium,
 and tuba sounds.
 
 So I listened to the sound samples on the makemusic site. And I was deeply
 disappointed by the artificial, glassy, orchestrion quality of the
 soundscape.
 
 Do I have a wose than usual ear-day, or have others had similar
 experiences?
 
 Is the band library being in version 2 over the GPO being in version 4 a
 hint that the band library is kind of outdated?
 
 Klaus

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Mac/Content/Finale/Maestro_Font.htm

Klaus

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Den 08/04/2013 kl. 18.47 skrev Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com:

 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] EXPORT AS MP3

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

On Mac I exported a 63,5MB.wav file from a Finale 2012 score. In iTunes I 
converted it to a 5,8MB .mp3 file that sounds amazingly close to the GPO 
playback from the Finale file.

Klaus




 From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] EXPORT AS MP3
 

Thank you, gentlemen! I DID have a number of files saved as MP3's, so was 
starting to question my sanity when I could not figure it out on my PC.

Donwloading Format Factory as we speak ~@:-)

Best,

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

 
  Under ExportAudio File there is only WAV. Is it not possible to export as
  MP3?
 
  TIA
 
  Dr. A.S.Weinstangel
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] disappearing text expressions

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Are you missing the original expression font on your current system?
I would assume you see a default placeholder font in the window. Does it help 
selecting all in the edit window and then choose another font?

Klaus
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From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
Subject: [Finale] disappearing text expressions
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:04 PM


several expressions (some, possibly all with enclosures) in a 
document i am working on are now blank.  the box is visible and the 
handle is there, placed as i had placed it but the text is empty.  i 
correct a couple of the texts, they are fine.  i opt-click to go 
directly into the editing box and the text is not there (hit esc and 
it remains visible).  2-click the handle and the text is visible in 
the expressions list, select edit and the text is blank.  i close and 
open the document, one of them is now completely gone (no longer 
attached at all to the note).

i had also edited a different text (with enclosure) and now it has 
been replaced by another expression from the same category in 2 
different places in the score.

anyone ever see anything like this?  i had some weirdness long ago 
(staff group names being replaced with text expressions and 
vice-versa) that was due to TGTools reset staff groups but haven't 
used that in a very long time.

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Re: [Finale] Different meters in different systems

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

There apparently is no work-around at the root level for Finale storing the 
music in databases of measures.

But there are these amazing guys making plugins, where Jari is the one I am 
most aware of. Could one of them they make a cosmetic overlay at staff level, 
where the time signatures not congruent with the basic measure structure would 
be what was ending up in the print file? Hopefully with options for good 
spacing and alignment across the various time signatures. 

Klaus




 From: Clif Ashcraft wa2...@optonline.net
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Different meters in different systems
 
Thanks David.  
    I was afraid that was the way it was.  I would have had to make the time 
signature 840/8 to make all the meters in the choir part line up with the 
organ, and that would effectively have made the whole piece one big measure.  
All in all, my kludge of creating a 3/4 event and dragging and dropping it 
leaving no extra rests in the score was probably the best thing to do.
            Clif



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Re: [Finale] Different meters in different systems

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

As I read you this could be systemized in a plugin.

Said by somebody not writing one line of code since 1967.

Klaus




 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Different meters in different systems
 
You could also set the time sig to 1/4, allow each staff to show
independent time singatures and independent barlines, chose time signature
for display only, and hide barlines where needed.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:

 There apparently is no work-around at the root level for Finale storing
 the music in databases of measures.

 But there are these amazing guys making plugins, where Jari is the one I
 am most aware of. Could one of them they make a cosmetic overlay at staff
 level, where the time signatures not congruent with the basic measure
 structure would be what was ending up in the print file? Hopefully with
 options for good spacing and alignment across the various time signatures.

 Klaus



 
  From: Clif Ashcraft wa2...@optonline.net
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Different meters in different systems
 
 Thanks David.
     I was afraid that was the way it was.  I would have had to make the
 time signature 840/8 to make all the meters in the choir part line up with
 the organ, and that would effectively have made the whole piece one big
 measure.  All in all, my kludge of creating a 3/4 event and dragging and
 dropping it leaving no extra rests in the score was probably the best thing
 to do.
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Re: [Finale] transposing in score mac 2012

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Score manager.

Klus

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Den 30/01/2013 kl. 22.06 skrev Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com:

 Finale 2012 MAC
 
 I used to know how to do this when I was using 2010.
 
 I have been sent a big score with all the instruments in concert pitch.
 The client wants them transposed (the usual...horn, clarinet, etc.)
 
 In 2010 I could open the staff dialog box and ask that the part be
 transposed, and in what way.
 
 Now I can't find any way to do that in an existing score.  HELP!
 
 And thanks!
 
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