RE: MIF question

[David Schor]

Doug,

A MIF file is an alternative form of a FrameMaker file, functioning like
an INI file for a FrameMaker document. It is an ASCII text file which
contains values describing every element of a FrameMaker FM file, such
as text, formatting values of paragraphs/characters/tables, reference
pointers and links, and more. You can open it in a Text editor such as
Notepad. It is useful for troubleshooting, or transferring an FM file
for use in other applications. Many times, I converted files to MIF in
order to change link paths on a Find/Replace basis. Sometimes,
converting a weirdly behaving FM file to MIF and then back again helps
clean the file (repeat - sometimes).

HTH,
David

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Subject: MIF question

Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed
this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but
I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care
to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful
tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

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AW: MIF question

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

A FrameMaker binary file saved as MIF will represent the
exact same info as the binary fm format in an ASCII format.
This ASCII foramt is even understandable for humans. You
can create MIF files from scratch with a text editor or a
database application.

MIF files do not need to be full FrameMaker files. They
can also contain just variable definitions or cross-reference
definitions. These small MIF files are usually called MIF
snippets. You can import them (Copy into Document) to
switch formats for another language.

When you only want to view MIF files I recommend the
free MIF viewer MIFBrowse:
http://www.wideman-one.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm

Most other tools can only import MIF files but not fm files.

Best regards

Winfried

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 An: McKinney, Doug; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
 Betreff: Re: MIF question
 
 
 MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
 FM file.
 
 Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
 as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
 what it looks like. 
 
  I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
  followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
  references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
  purpose or use. If someone would care to
  enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
  useful tool or resource.
 
 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer
 
 So long and thanks for all the fish.
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Re: Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in numbered paragraphs...

[Matthias . Dillier]

Hi Andy

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 This allows all decimal points to line up. Is this an acceptable
 way of getting the decimal points to line up, or is there a better way 
to do
 this?

You can use a decimal tabulator and something like \tn+.n+. Depending 
on your exact needs, you also may use a right tabulator or several tabs. 
To align numbers also be sure to turn kerning off for the used paragraph 
or character format. With no kerning, in most fonts all numbers are evenly 
spaced.

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re: Links to captions in PDF

[Shlomo Perets]

When the PDF is displayed on-screen, the view displayed after clicking a 
link is also affected by the display mode, Single Page or Continuous.
The display mode can be specified as part of the PDF viewing properties; if 
it set to Default, then the local preferences as to the display mode 
apply. If Continuous is supported, the figure captions work better when 
placed above the figure.


Another approach involves defining the specific view for each figure 
through custom hypertext markers (with TimeSavers), and then using 
hypertext markers to link to the specific view defined. This way, each 
figure link take the reader to a figure-specific view which includes the 
entire figure plus its caption. The zoom is adjusted automatically; a 
non-printing back button restores the view.
A sample PDF, demonstrating this approach is available at 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/Figures.pdf


[ http://www.microtype.com/showcaseCustom.html also has a link to a 
real-life PDF of a conference paper, one out of a series of interlinked 
papers, using the same Figure linking techniques ]



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Doc closes after hyperlink

[Niels Fanøe]

Framers,

I have been trying to make some sense of this, and now I turn to you.

Sometimes, following a hyperlink in a Frame doc to another Frame doc closes the 
source doc. If it has been changed, FrameMaker prompts to save the doc before 
it opens the target doc. Cancelling the save procedure cancels the hyperlink 
procedure.

Why is this, and why doesn't it always happen?

Thanks,

Niels

Win2K, Frame 7.1
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Empty pages - how to delete?

[Suman L Malik]

Hello,
   
  I created a book having various chapters and applied master pages having 
double sided layouts. The first pages of all the chapters are right sided. 
   
  The following is the specification, I provided for pagination:
  Double sided, Ist Page side - Right, Before Saving and Printing - Make Page 
Count Even.
   
  While trying to delete the empty pages, I specified:
   
  Before Saving and Printing - Delete empty pages. But this does not solve my 
problem. When I update the cross-references, Index, and TOC, these empty pages 
return.
   
  I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a turn 
off...
   
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Re: Doc closes after hyperlink

[Shlomo Perets]

Niels,

You wrote:


I have been trying to make some sense of this, and now I turn to you.

Sometimes, following a hyperlink in a Frame doc to another Frame doc
closes the source doc. If it has been changed, FrameMaker prompts to
save the doc before it opens the target doc. Cancelling the save
procedure cancels the hyperlink procedure.

Why is this, and why doesn't it always happen?



FrameMaker hyperlinks have two variations: goto  and open

The goto variation displays the target document in the current window 
(closing the currently-displayed file); the open variation displays the 
target document in a new window, leaving the current document open.


The goto/open behavior of hypertext markers generated automatically (eg in 
TOC/IX) is controlled through the corresponding flow in the reference page, 
eg: openObjectId $relfilename:$ObjectType $ObjectId


With respect to cross-references, the goto/open behavior is controlled 
internally by the DViewOnlyXRef property (accessible through MIF).


If you press the Shift key when activating a link/cross-ref with 
Ctrl-Alt/cross-ref (that is, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-click), the goto... is 
interpreted as an open... action.


Notice that the goto/open variation only applies to links activated in 
FrameMaker, and is not carried over to PDF interactivity (where all 
links/cross-refs  become goto, more info at 
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html#10 ).



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RE: Empty pages - how to delete?

[David Schor]

Suman,

1. FrameMaker is behaving exactly as it should. When you specify in your
book that all files begin on a Right (or odd) page, then logically, a
Left (or even) page must precede the Right page. You can't go from Odd
to Odd, so FrameMaker inserts the bridging page.

2. Book pagination settings override local document pagination settings.

However, for a screen PDF, the Left-Right pagination may be irrelevant.
So to prevent the automatic addition of blank pages, change the Book
Pagination settings to a Single page layout, start the files on Next
Available Page and for Before Saving and Printing, define Delete
Empty Pages. The result should be files (chapters) that start on odd or
even pages immediately following the end of the previous file.

HTH,
David


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Subject: Empty pages - how to delete?

Hello,
   
  I created a book having various chapters and applied master pages
having double sided layouts. The first pages of all the chapters are
right sided. 
   
  The following is the specification, I provided for pagination:
  Double sided, Ist Page side - Right, Before Saving and Printing - Make
Page Count Even.
   
  While trying to delete the empty pages, I specified:
   
  Before Saving and Printing - Delete empty pages. But this does not
solve my problem. When I update the cross-references, Index, and TOC,
these empty pages return.
   
  I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a
turn off...
   
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FrameMaker in the Press at microtype.com

[Shlomo Perets]

In case you don't already visit this page periodically:

The FrameMaker in the Press page at microtype.com -- 
http://www.microtype.com/homeFMPress.html -- has links to 
FrameMaker-related news items, articles, reviews and press releases. It is 
updated regularly, and dates back to May 2000.



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PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Kevin Rusnak]

Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




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Hyland Software, Inc.
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RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Spreadbury, David]

If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

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Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
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RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Grant Hogarth]

Kevin--

One possiblity is to set the printer to BW when you print the
hardcopy version.

Another (and what I do) is let my Printing company do the conversion
from a color PDF. 

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From:  Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!


Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
Hyland Software, Inc.
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RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Fred Ridder]

Three follow-up points:

1) If you are creating PDF, you *should* be using the Adobe PDF
printer driver. Some people insist that they must use the printer driver
for the actual output device that thei print vendor will be using, but
this is faulty logic and it undercuts the foundation of PDF portability.

2) The Black  White vs. Color printer property setting only exists for
the Adobe PDF printer driver. Drivers for monochrome printers don't
provide the option because they know nothing about color. Drivers
for color printers *might* offer it, but I've never seen one that does;
they all assume that if you're printing to a color printer you want color
output and if you wanted black  white you'd be printing your job
to a cheaper and faster monochrome printer.

3) The Black  White vs. Color printer property setting *will* have
the desired result for TIFF graphics, but will *not* affect EPS or PDF
graphic objects. The reason is that the printer driver never processes
the PostScript code embedded in those graphics; it just passes it
through into the PostScript output stream. If the EPS or PDF contains
color information, that is passed to the PostScript stream unchanged
regardless of the BW/Color setting.

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Subject: RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:17:14 -0500

If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

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Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
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PDFs: How big is too big?

[Jon Harvey]

Hi all,

 

We would like to place some of our larger manuals online for download
but don't know whether the PDFs will be too big. Is there a general
guideline limit (1MB, 10MB, 25MB?) for the size of a PDF for download?
Most of  our users are corporate, so we anticipate each will have a
high-speed connection. However, we certainly can't guarantee all of them
will be. 

 

Any thoughts?...Jon

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Re: Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in numbered paragraphs

[Dosick, Daniel \(GE Indust, Security\)]

Andy,

Here's how I do it: Set up the Autonumber format for both tags with a tab, then 
the numbering building block and decimal point, then another tab, as in the 
following example:

  N:\tn+.\t

Make the first tab a right tab and the second a left tab. Don't indent the 
first line, but set the second line indent to match the second (left) tab. A 
little experimentation will show you the right sizes for the tabs and the 
indent.

Dan

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:30:22 -0400
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Subject: Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in
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Hello,

I'm writing a step procedure that involves over 10 steps. I 
have set
up one paragraph tag named
StepFirst, and another paragraph tag (for all subsequent steps) named
StepNext. The problem is, the
decimal points won't line up between the single-digit steps and the
double-digit steps.

One solution I used was to create a paragraph tag named 
StepNexta
(with a first indent of .5 and a
left indent of .72) for steps numbered 1-9, and another tag named 
StepNextb
(with a first indent of .4 and a
left indent of .7) for all numbered steps above 9. This allows all 
decimal
points to line up. Is this an acceptable
way of getting the decimal points to line up, or is there a better way 
to do
this?

Thanks,

Andy


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Things dropping out when printed

[Robert Kern]

I am running Frame 7.2 on XP. After installing 3 FramePlugins from 
Silicon Graphics (two of which I've used for years), when I go to print 
to either my PS laser printer or to PDF, massive amounts of content drop 
out of the output. I rebooted to clear any memory leaks, but it didn't 
fix the problem. Uninstalling the plugins also didn't help, nor did 
reinstalling Frame 7.2. I tried with an older version of Frame 7.1 that 
I still have installed and got the same problem.  So, I'm guessing that 
this is a PS driver issue and am presently downloading PS 3 winsteng 
1.0.6 to reinstall it. 

Has anybody had this happen to them?  If so, was reinstalling PS printer 
driver the solution?

What might I have done to corrupt things?

-bob
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Re: Links to Captions in PDF

[Don and Judy]

Framers:

Following the advice of others than Peter G. and Schlomo P., I decided to
move all my figure captions (numbered by a para tag) to the top of each
illustration. Got over a hundred, so it took quite a while.

I found the easiest way to pull this off was to cut the entire caption
paragraph with its markers,  Click just after the anchored frame marker
above the picture (in front of the para tag), and paste the caption
paragraph into place. Then, delete the paragraph tag that appeared under the
picture as a consequence and go on to the next.

All seemed wonderful. Only took me a few hours. All the links functioned
within FrameMaker as proven with the Ctrl+Alt click technique. But then I
checked the resulting PDF files and found that those links, but one, which
were connected to a reference within the current file went nowhere/did
nothing. Links connected to a figure in another chapter (file) worked as
they were intended.

Perhaps this has something to do with placing the cross-ref adjacent to the
anchor marker. I wouldn't know. I replaced each link, deleted and reinserted
each link. But nothing changed the result. I even saved the chapter as an
MIF and reopened and resaved it. No change.

With a day of work virtually wasted, I'm contemplating returning the to the
more complicated suggestions of P.G.   S.P. Or else move the Caption to a
text frame within the anchored frame.

As we say in the carpenters trade, 'Ain't nothin' ever easy?

~ Don Spencer
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RE: PDFs: How big is too big?

[Daniel Doornbos]

Hi Jon,

You asked a good question but you said nothing about your situation.
As an example, I write manuals up to 330 A5 pages that result in PDFs of
around 5MB.
Customers report no problems downloading these PDFs from the company
website and viewing them in a standard browser.
As a first step, I suggest you discuss your situation in detail with
your IT manager, and together determine the best way to put your manuals
online and whether you really need to reduce their file size.
Than, if it turns out that your PDFs are too big, look at file-size
reduction as a separate issue.

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Promise Technology, Inc.
 

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Hi all,

 

We would like to place some of our larger manuals online for download
but don't know whether the PDFs will be too big. Is there a general
guideline limit (1MB, 10MB, 25MB?) for the size of a PDF for download?
Most of  our users are corporate, so we anticipate each will have a
high-speed connection. However, we certainly can't guarantee all of them
will be. 

 

Any thoughts?...Jon

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Re: Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in numbered paragraphs...

[Andy Kelsall]

Hello,

 A big thanks to everyone who responded. The solutions you provided
where
dead-on. Setting up a right-aligned tab stop to get the decimal points to
line up, then
setting up a left-aligned tab stop to set spacing between the decimal point
and the
text that followed was exactly what I was looking for. I reduced the number
of paragraph
tags I needed from three to one!

For anyone else that might be looking for a solution like this, here's what
I ended up with (in a nutshell):

In Paragraph Designer, on the Basic Sheet:

*Tab Stops*:
---
.5 R   (this corresponds to the first tab on the Numbering sheet)
.6 L   (this corresponds to the second tab on the Numbering sheet)
*Under Indents:
*--
First = 0
Left = .6  (this should match the Left tab stop setting so that all lines in
the
  paragraph line up with the first line of the paragraph)


On the Numbering Sheet:

S:\tn+.\t


Thanks,

Andy






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Hello,

I'm writing a step procedure that involves over 10 steps. I have
set up one paragraph tag named
StepFirst, and another paragraph tag (for all subsequent steps) named
StepNext. The problem is, the
decimal points won't line up between the single-digit steps and the
double-digit steps.

One solution I used was to create a paragraph tag named StepNexta
(with a first indent of .5 and a
left indent of .72) for steps numbered 1-9, and another tag named
StepNextb (with a first indent of .4 and a
left indent of .7) for all numbered steps above 9. This allows all decimal
points to line up. Is this an acceptable
way of getting the decimal points to line up, or is there a better way to
do this?

Thanks,


Andy



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Re: Empty pages - how to delete?

[Suman L Malik]

Thanks Mike, I indeed applied custom master pages and there were around 2-5 
empty pages after each chapter. This option is working well to get rid of them.
   
  Regards,
  Suman
   
  
Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a 
 turn off...

As others have noted, Make Page Count Even may cause FrameMaker to add a 
single blank page to make the page count even. If your problem is multiple 
trailing blank pages in a file, it means you applied custom master pages to 
them, but then deleted the content. As I recall, Delete Empty Pages won't 
delete those empty pages whose master pages are not the standard left/right 
master pages. You first have to use Special Delete Pages to get rid of 
those. Then Delete Empty Pages and Make Page Count Even will work as 
expected.

Mike Wickham





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Links to captions in PDF

[rebecca officer]

We've been using captions above but want to go away from them. In our case, 
almost all figures have a lead-in paragraph, so using a caption can be very 
repetitive and breaks the flow. So we're going to be putting block labels by 
the lead-in paragraph and cross-referencing to them. That means people can see 
the text they need, as well as the diagram.

Cheers, Rebecca

At 8:16 AM -0700 5/30/06, Don and Judy wrote:
>Greetings, all:
>
>I have discovered a problem when generating PDF's from my illustrated book.
>
>Ignorant of proper frame technique at the outset, I created anchored frames
>through importing graphics and captioned them with a separate paragraph
>immediately following the anchored frame. These captions are numbered and
>cross referred to occasionally in the text.
>
>The cross references function fine in the generated PDF files except for one
>small detail.
>
>When the link is clicked, Adobe Reader pops the linked text to the top of
>the viewing page, exactly at the top, so that the illustration is up and out
>of view. All that is visible is the caption text at the very top line. The
>reader must scroll upward to see the picture.
>
>In my experiments to cure this problem and allow the illustration to come
>into view when the link is clicked, I have used tables with the caption
>beneath. The result is the same. Only when the caption is placed ABOVE THE
>ILLUSTRATION, whether with a table inclusion or just by formatting as the
>caption that paragraph mark to which the frame is anchored, can I get the
>PDF to show the illustration with the link.
>
>I don't really mind this work-around, except that placing a caption above an
>illustration is very nonstandard and may require an explanation in the
>preface.
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keywords

[obai...@comcast.net]

A Frame book that I took over is mysteriously leaving out-of-date, unwanted 
words in the Keywords field that is visible in the PDF when you right-click the 
PDF file and click the PDF tab.

I have searched through each Frame file by right-clicking and picking 
Properties and clicking the Summary tab, but there is not one word in the 
Keywords field in those files.

So I do not know where the PDF is drawing on for the words in its Keywords 
field.

Maybe there are ghosts in the conversion?

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keywords

[obai...@comcast.net]

D'oh!   There it is.

Thank you.

Homer

 -- Original message --
From: Martha J Davidson 
> Have you looked in File > File Info with everything, including the top line 
> (book name) selected? That might show something you haven't seen.
> 
> martha
> 
> At 04:49 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
> >A Frame book that I took over is mysteriously leaving out-of-date, 
> >unwanted words in the Keywords field that is visible in the PDF when you 
> >right-click the PDF file and click the PDF tab.
> >
> >I have searched through each Frame file by right-clicking and picking 
> >Properties and clicking the Summary tab, but there is not one word in the 
> >Keywords field in those files.
> >
> >So I do not know where the PDF is drawing on for the words in its Keywords 
> >field.
> >
> >Maybe there are ghosts in the conversion?
> >
> >Paul
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> "Too many words bring about exhaustion."
>   --Tao Te Ching, Chapter 5 (translated by Sheets/Tovey)
> 
> 

keywords

[rebecca officer]

Did you look at the File menu > File Info in the book file, as well as 
individual .fm files?

Cheers, Rebecca

>>>  31/05/06 11:49 >>>
A Frame book that I took over is mysteriously leaving out-of-date, unwanted 
words in the Keywords field that is visible in the PDF when you right-click the 
PDF file and click the PDF tab.

I have searched through each Frame file by right-clicking and picking 
Properties and clicking the Summary tab, but there is not one word in the 
Keywords field in those files.

So I do not know where the PDF is drawing on for the words in its Keywords 
field.

Maybe there are ghosts in the conversion?

Paul
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MIF question

[David Schor]

Doug,

A MIF file is an alternative form of a FrameMaker file, functioning like
an INI file for a FrameMaker document. It is an ASCII text file which
contains values describing every element of a FrameMaker FM file, such
as text, formatting values of paragraphs/characters/tables, reference
pointers and links, and more. You can open it in a Text editor such as
Notepad. It is useful for troubleshooting, or transferring an FM file
for use in other applications. Many times, I converted files to MIF in
order to change link paths on a Find/Replace basis. Sometimes,
converting a weirdly behaving FM file to MIF and then back again helps
clean the file (repeat - sometimes).

HTH,
David

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[mailto:framers-bounces+davids=emblaze-vcon.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of McKinney, Doug
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:56 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: MIF question

Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed
this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but
I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care
to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful
tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

Doug Mckinney
Technical Writer
Datron World Communications Inc.
www.dmckinney at dtwc.com

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AW: MIF question

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

A FrameMaker binary file saved as MIF will represent the
exact same info as the binary fm format in an ASCII format.
This ASCII foramt is even understandable for humans. You
can create MIF files from scratch with a text editor or a
database application.

MIF files do not need to be full FrameMaker files. They
can also contain just variable definitions or cross-reference
definitions. These small MIF files are usually called MIF
snippets. You can import them ("Copy into Document") to
switch formats for another language.

When you only want to view MIF files I recommend the
free MIF viewer MIFBrowse:
http://www.wideman-one.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm

Most other tools can only import MIF files but not fm files.

Best regards

Winfried

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> Von: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com]Im
> Auftrag von John Posada
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 17:03
> An: McKinney, Doug; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
> Betreff: Re: MIF question
> 
> 
> MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
> FM file.
> 
> Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
> as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
> what it looks like. 
> 
> > I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> > followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> > references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> > purpose or use. If someone would care to
> > enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> > useful tool or resource.
> 
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
> 
> "So long and thanks for all the fish."

Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in numbered paragraphs...

[matthias.dill...@snb.ch]

Hi Andy

framers-bounces+matthias.dillier=snb.ch at lists.frameusers.com wrote on 
31.05.2006 04:30:22:

> This allows all decimal points to line up. Is this an acceptable
> way of getting the decimal points to line up, or is there a better way 
to do
> this?

You can use a decimal tabulator and something like \t.. Depending 
on your exact needs, you also may use a right tabulator or several tabs. 
To align numbers also be sure to turn kerning off for the used paragraph 
or character format. With no kerning, in most fonts all numbers are evenly 
spaced.

Regards,
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Doc closes after hyperlink

[Niels Fanøe]

Framers,

I have been trying to make some sense of this, and now I turn to you.

Sometimes, following a hyperlink in a Frame doc to another Frame doc closes the 
source doc. If it has been changed, FrameMaker prompts to save the doc before 
it opens the target doc. Cancelling the save procedure cancels the hyperlink 
procedure.

Why is this, and why doesn't it always happen?

Thanks,

Niels

Win2K, Frame 7.1

Empty pages - how to delete?

[Suman L Malik]

Hello,

  I created a book having various chapters and applied master pages having 
double sided layouts. The first pages of all the chapters are right sided. 

  The following is the specification, I provided for pagination:
  Double sided, Ist Page side - Right, Before Saving and Printing - Make Page 
Count Even.

  While trying to delete the empty pages, I specified:

  Before Saving and Printing - Delete empty pages. But this does not solve my 
problem. When I update the cross-references, Index, and TOC, these empty pages 
return.

  I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a turn 
off...

  Suman


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Doc closes after hyperlink

[Shlomo Perets]

Niels,

You wrote:

>I have been trying to make some sense of this, and now I turn to you.
>
>Sometimes, following a hyperlink in a Frame doc to another Frame doc
>closes the source doc. If it has been changed, FrameMaker prompts to
>save the doc before it opens the target doc. Cancelling the save
>procedure cancels the hyperlink procedure.
>
>Why is this, and why doesn't it always happen?


FrameMaker hyperlinks have two variations: goto  and open

The goto variation displays the target document in the current window 
(closing the currently-displayed file); the open variation displays the 
target document in a new window, leaving the current document open.

The goto/open behavior of hypertext markers generated automatically (eg in 
TOC/IX) is controlled through the corresponding flow in the reference page, 
eg: openObjectId <$relfilename>:<$ObjectType> <$ObjectId>

With respect to cross-references, the goto/open behavior is controlled 
internally by the "DViewOnlyXRef" property (accessible through MIF).

If you press the Shift key when activating a link/cross-ref with 
Ctrl-Alt/cross-ref (that is, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-click), the goto... is 
interpreted as an open... action.

Notice that the goto/open variation only applies to links activated in 
FrameMaker, and is not carried over to PDF interactivity (where all 
links/cross-refs  become "goto", more info at 
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html#10 ).


Shlomo Perets

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Empty pages - how to delete?

[David Schor]

Suman,

1. FrameMaker is behaving exactly as it should. When you specify in your
book that all files begin on a Right (or odd) page, then logically, a
Left (or even) page must precede the Right page. You can't go from Odd
to Odd, so FrameMaker inserts the bridging page.

2. Book pagination settings override local document pagination settings.

However, for a screen PDF, the Left-Right pagination may be irrelevant.
So to prevent the automatic addition of blank pages, change the Book
Pagination settings to a Single page layout, start the files on "Next
Available Page" and for "Before Saving and Printing," define "Delete
Empty Pages." The result should be files (chapters) that start on odd or
even pages immediately following the end of the previous file.

HTH,
David


David Schor
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[mailto:framers-bounces+davids=emblaze-vcon.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Suman L Malik
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:11 PM
To: frame users
Subject: Empty pages - how to delete?

Hello,

  I created a book having various chapters and applied master pages
having double sided layouts. The first pages of all the chapters are
right sided. 

  The following is the specification, I provided for pagination:
  Double sided, Ist Page side - Right, Before Saving and Printing - Make
Page Count Even.

  While trying to delete the empty pages, I specified:

  Before Saving and Printing - Delete empty pages. But this does not
solve my problem. When I update the cross-references, Index, and TOC,
these empty pages return.

  I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a
turn off...

  Suman


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"FrameMaker in the Press" at microtype.com

[Shlomo Perets]

In case you don't already visit this page periodically:

The "FrameMaker in the Press" page at microtype.com -- 
http://www.microtype.com/homeFMPress.html -- has links to 
FrameMaker-related news items, articles, reviews and press releases. It is 
updated regularly, and dates back to May 2000.


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PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Kevin Rusnak]

Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
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PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Spreadbury, David]

If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

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From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
kevin.rusnak at onbase.com
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PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Grant Hogarth]

Kevin--

One possiblity is to set the printer to "B" when you print the
hardcopy version.

Another (and what I do) is let my Printing company do the conversion
from a color PDF. 

Grant
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-Original Message-
From:  Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!


Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
Hyland Software, Inc.

PDF (Color to B/W?)

[Fred Ridder]

Three follow-up points:

1) If you are creating PDF, you *should* be using the "Adobe PDF"
printer driver. Some people insist that they must use the printer driver
for the actual output device that thei print vendor will be using, but
this is faulty logic and it undercuts the foundation of PDF portability.

2) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting only exists for
the Adobe PDF printer driver. Drivers for monochrome printers don't
provide the option because they know nothing about color. Drivers
for color printers *might* offer it, but I've never seen one that does;
they all assume that if you're printing to a color printer you want color
output and if you wanted black & white you'd be printing your job
to a cheaper and faster monochrome printer.

3) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting *will* have
the desired result for TIFF graphics, but will *not* affect EPS or PDF
graphic objects. The reason is that the printer driver never processes
the PostScript code embedded in those graphics; it just passes it
through into the PostScript output stream. If the EPS or PDF contains
color information, that is passed to the PostScript stream unchanged
regardless of the B/Color setting.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Spreadbury, David" 
>To: "Kevin Rusnak" ,"Framers" 
>
>Subject: RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:17:14 -0500
>
>If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
>should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
>PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
>There should be a similar option.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.com
>[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
>m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: Framers
>Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)
>
>
>Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
>Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
>grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
>cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
>convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
>PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
>now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
>one in TIF.
>What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
>and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
>anyway to automate this process?
>Thanks for any and all feedback!
>
>
>
>
>Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
>E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
>
>Hyland Software, Inc.
>440.788.5609
>440.788.5709 (fax)
>kevin.rusnak at onbase.com
>www.onbase.com
>28500 Clemens Road
>Westlake, OH 44145

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PDFs: How big is too big?

[Jon Harvey]

Hi all,



We would like to place some of our larger manuals online for download
but don't know whether the PDFs will be too big. Is there a general
guideline limit (1MB, 10MB, 25MB?) for the size of a PDF for download?
Most of  our users are corporate, so we anticipate each will have a
high-speed connection. However, we certainly can't guarantee all of them
will be. 



Any thoughts?...Jon

Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in numbered paragraphs

[Dosick, Daniel (GE Indust, Security)]

Andy,

Here's how I do it: Set up the Autonumber format for both tags with a tab, then 
the numbering "building block" and decimal point, then another tab, as in the 
following example:

  N:\t.\t

Make the first tab a right tab and the second a left tab. Don't indent the 
first line, but set the second line indent to match the second (left) tab. A 
little experimentation will show you the right sizes for the tabs and the 
indent.

Dan

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Message: 30
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:30:22 -0400
From: "Andy Kelsall" 
Subject: Best practice or method of lining up decimal points in
numberedparagraphs...
To: Framers at frameusers.com
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello,

I'm writing a step procedure that involves over 10 steps. I 
have set
up one paragraph tag named
StepFirst, and another paragraph tag (for all subsequent steps) named
StepNext. The problem is, the
decimal points won't line up between the single-digit steps and the
double-digit steps.

One solution I used was to create a paragraph tag named 
StepNexta
(with a first indent of .5 and a
left indent of .72) for steps numbered 1-9, and another tag named 
StepNextb
(with a first indent of .4 and a
left indent of .7) for all numbered steps above 9. This allows all 
decimal
points to line up. Is this an acceptable
way of getting the decimal points to line up, or is there a better way 
to do
this?

Thanks,

Andy


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Things dropping out when printed

[Robert Kern]

I am running Frame 7.2 on XP. After installing 3 FramePlugins from 
Silicon Graphics (two of which I've used for years), when I go to print 
to either my PS laser printer or to PDF, massive amounts of content drop 
out of the output. I rebooted to clear any memory leaks, but it didn't 
fix the problem. Uninstalling the plugins also didn't help, nor did 
reinstalling Frame 7.2. I tried with an older version of Frame 7.1 that 
I still have installed and got the same problem.  So, I'm guessing that 
this is a PS driver issue and am presently downloading PS 3 winsteng 
1.0.6 to reinstall it. 

Has anybody had this happen to them?  If so, was reinstalling PS printer 
driver the solution?
What might I have done to corrupt things?

-bob
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President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.
108 E. Main Street, Suite 4
Carrboro, NC  27510
www.technicalpublishing.com
bob at technicalpublishing.com
919-933-2629 phone
919-338-2899 fax


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FW: Links to captions in PDF

[Don and Judy]

Hi, Peter et al:

Chastened by Peter in the following direct e-mail, I will share it for
everyone's  edification, though in abridged form.

>Peter:
>
>by
>   * Create a paragraph format for the caption that is the
>   cross-reference source which appears at the top of the graphic. Set
>   the text color White.
>Do you mean format the anchored-frame paragraph atop the frame that
contains
>the picture?

Yes.

>   * Create a cross-reference to the white caption paragraph below the
>   graphic; tag it with your standard caption paragraph format.
>Which means, put a cross-reference (in white) that jumps from the anchored
>frame tag to the caption (Figure X-i) tag at the bottom of the picture.
>
>   * Point cross-references in text to the white caption paragraph.
>
>Then, instead of entering a standard cross-reference to the caption (Figure
>X-i)in the appropriate file, I instead type that reference into the text
and
>create (imbed) a cross-reference to the white tag at the bottom of the
>picture? Then why not simply imbed the tab to the top?
>
>Must be missing something here. Though the light is beginning to dawn.

Sorry for any lack of clarity, or too much brevity (can one have too
much brevity?) My suggestion works on the principle of a white
("invisible") cross-reference source (the thing you may think of as
what you point to, but which is commonly called the source), so when
you activate the link in a PDF, it's at the top of the screen. That's
one reference to the source, in text somewhere that says "(Figure
X-i" or whatever.) The second reference to this source is below the
graphic, either in a table cell, table title below, or even in a text
frame in the anchored frame with the graphic; it's not white, so it's
visible. The reader sees the caption where it's expected, but the
navigation mechanism in PDF ( as well as in HTML Web pages, which
work the same frustrating way, BTW) positions the invisible source at
the top of the window. If there's too much space at the top, you can
make a small font size part of the paragraph format.

>And thanks so much.

You're welcome. However, in the future, please post your follow-up
questions to the list so that others might help in clarifying, and
also that others can benefit from the clarifications. Please post
your successful steps and results to the list for the others.

However, I have yet to attempt this method. But instead opted for rush 
to
captions above.
My method, however, must have been faulty as will be explained in a
following e-mail. :+}


~ Don Spencer

Links to Captions in PDF

[Don and Judy]

Framers:

Following the advice of others than Peter G. and Schlomo P., I decided to
move all my figure captions (numbered by a para tag) to the top of each
illustration. Got over a hundred, so it took quite a while.

I found the easiest way to pull this off was to "cut" the entire caption
paragraph with its markers,  Click just after the anchored frame marker
above the picture (in front of the para tag), and "paste" the caption
paragraph into place. Then, delete the paragraph tag that appeared under the
picture as a consequence and go on to the next.

All seemed wonderful. Only took me a few hours. All the links functioned
within FrameMaker as proven with the Ctrl+Alt click technique. But then I
checked the resulting PDF files and found that those links, but one, which
were connected to a reference within the current file went nowhere/did
nothing. Links connected to a figure in another chapter (file) worked as
they were intended.

Perhaps this has something to do with placing the cross-ref adjacent to the
anchor marker. I wouldn't know. I replaced each link, deleted and reinserted
each link. But nothing changed the result. I even saved the chapter as an
MIF and reopened and resaved it. No change.

With a day of work virtually wasted, I'm contemplating returning the to the
more complicated suggestions of P.G.  & S.P. Or else move the Caption to a
text frame within the anchored frame.

As we say in the carpenters trade, 'Ain't nothin' ever easy?"

~ Don Spencer

PDFs: How big is too big?

[Daniel Doornbos]

Hi Jon,

You asked a good question but you said nothing about your situation.
As an example, I write manuals up to 330 A5 pages that result in PDFs of
around 5MB.
Customers report no problems downloading these PDFs from the company
website and viewing them in a standard browser.
As a first step, I suggest you discuss your situation in detail with
your IT manager, and together determine the best way to put your manuals
online and whether you really need to reduce their file size.
Than, if it turns out that your PDFs are too big, look at file-size
reduction as a separate issue.

Daniel Doornbos
Technical Writer
Promise Technology, Inc.


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[mailto:framers-bounces+danield=promise.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:24 AM
To: framers
Subject: PDFs: How big is too big?


Hi all,



We would like to place some of our larger manuals online for download
but don't know whether the PDFs will be too big. Is there a general
guideline limit (1MB, 10MB, 25MB?) for the size of a PDF for download?
Most of  our users are corporate, so we anticipate each will have a
high-speed connection. However, we certainly can't guarantee all of them
will be. 



Any thoughts?...Jon

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Caption Link Woes

[Don and Judy]

Dear Framers & Peter G.:

Having returned to a form of my book with the figure captions below the
pictures, I did the following:

1. Created a paragraph tag for the top of the pictures which contains a new
numbering system. (To do this, one more place holder, < >, had to be
inserted into the existing numbering system in each para tag.) The numbers
match the numbers of the visible tags below the pictures, but are white and
2 pt.

2. I then went to each reference to a figure (Search Any Cross Reference,
click, click, click . . . ) and changed the reference to Text. Then beside
said reference, I inserted a reference to the figure's crown tag.

This seems to work fine in the PDF except for one problem. When the reader
puts his cursor over the figure reference, nothing happens. He must instead
move it to the right of the figure ref to get that little linking hand icon.
This would require some explanation.
Better to go back to putting all the captions above the pictures.

I am suspicious that I've missed something in translation. Is there meant to
be a ricochet so that one clicks the caption cross ref which kicks to the
caption under the picture, which kicks to the invisible reference atop the
picture?

Insanity lurks.

~ Don Spencer

Empty pages - how to delete?

[Suman L Malik]

Thanks Mike, I indeed applied custom master pages and there were around 2-5 
empty pages after each chapter. This option is working well to get rid of them.

  Regards,
  Suman


Mike Wickham  wrote:

> I am creating a pdf from this book and these empty pages are really a 
> turn off...

As others have noted, "Make Page Count Even" may cause FrameMaker to add a 
single blank page to make the page count even. If your problem is multiple 
trailing blank pages in a file, it means you applied custom master pages to 
them, but then deleted the content. As I recall, "Delete Empty Pages" won't 
delete those empty pages whose master pages are not the standard left/right 
master pages. You first have to use Special> Delete Pages to get rid of 
those. Then Delete Empty Pages and Make Page Count Even will work as 
expected.

Mike Wickham





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