Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results have been disappointing. I want to research on the Hunspell dictionary functionality, but all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to a setting on the Edit Preferences dialog. No further information at all. I then decided to read the FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file, which is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - System requirements http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. I suspect they meant to say: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Installation Instructions For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Trial software You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the subject. Where do I find further information on this? * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. // Simon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Font suggestions for book?
Hi everyone, I'm not sure whether this post went through, so I'm trying again. In the past, I've worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I've left pretty stuff such as font selection to others. So I really don't know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it's okay. :) Thanks, Elchanan From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM To: Framers; Free Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Greetings everyone, I'm working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I've now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial . it's a book about the history of taxation. It's not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to wake up American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said . What are people's favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Font suggestions for book?
Besides being a matter of taste (which really cannot be argued), font choice cannot be done intelligently without knowing *lot* of other information, such as: - medium of the deliverable (printed, PDF, HTML, eBook, etc.) - page size (if fixed, or range of page size if variable) - column width and point size (which together determine the point size range) - leading - nature of content (fiction, general non-fiction, scholarly writing, technical documentation, etc.) - natural organization of content (all text in long paragraphs vs. text blocks broken up by shorter paragraphs and/or lists vs. text with lots of tables and figures, etc.) What works well for the kind of technical content I work with most of the time (long, complex sentences but often fairly short paragraphs, and lots of tables and bulleted lists) is very different from what I would use for some of the general non-fiction I edit on the side. And neither of those correspond to what I prefer to see when I read fiction. If you asked this question over on the Techwr-l list, I'm sure you'd get a flood of highly opinionated answers. If you asked it on the copyeditors list, I think you'd get a handful of it depends answers similar to mine since there are some actual book designers on that list. But over here in the world of FrameMaker, I'm not sure that we have a lot of people who fancy themselves font fondlers. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:42:48 -0700 Hi everyone, I’m not sure whether this post went through, so I’m trying again. In the past, I’ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I’ve left “pretty stuff” such as font selection to others. So I really don’t know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it’s okay. :) Thanks,ElchananFrom: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM To: Framers; Free Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Greetings everyone, I’m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I’ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial … it’s a book about the history of taxation. It’s not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to “wake up” American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said … What are people’s favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards,Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
haha, I like that. On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote: * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. Alan -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
It's kind of surreal. Nadine From: Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:24:42 PM Subject: Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'? haha, I like that. On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote: * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mac and Tech Comm Suite
Craig, You can't run it directly on a Mac. You have to run it in a Windows VM. I use VMWare Fusion with a Windows 7 OS. Works great! -Gillian - Original Message - From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com To: Framer's List framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:08:32 AM Subject: mac and Tech Comm Suite I'm considering replacing my current windows laptop with a Mac laptop. I know that some framers are using Macs with the latest Adobe TCS software, and I would appreciate any brief comments on the benefits/hassles of working with TCS on a Mac and what contortions have worked best for you to make this work. You can send comments to me offlist if you'd like, or post to the list if you think there is general value to the posting. Thank you. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unavailable fonts message - incorrect?
Yes - I said as much to Fred myself but forgot to post my answer to the list. This is really useful, detailed information. Thanks Pascale From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com] Sent: 15 August 2013 18:51 To: Fred Ridder; STEPHENSON pascale; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts message - incorrect? Wow. This e-mail goes in my reference folder. Next time I need this info, I want it to be able to retrieve it immediately. Thanks for great lesson, Fred. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.comhttp://www.analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 Analogic Ultrasound [cid:image001.gif@01CE6B83.A9238C10]http://www.analogicultrasound.com/bk [cid:image002.gif@01CE6B83.A9238C10]http://www.analogicultrasound.com/ultrasonix [cid:image003.gif@01CE6B83.A9238C10]http://www.analogicultrasound.com/sti From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:06 AM To: STEPHENSON pascale; framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts message - incorrect? You posting seems to reflect several small misconceptions about how FrameMaker works. Let me see if I can address them one at a time. First, a single unavailable fonts message in one file can, in fact, also be the cause of subsequent unresolved cross-references messages in other files. When you open any file that contains cross-references, FrameMaker attempts to refresh all of those references by looking at each target location and grabbing the current text string and numbering properties (autonumbering and page numbering). If any of those cross-references point to locations that are in other files, FM has to silently open each of those files to refresh the references. But if a target file has an unavailable font condition, that error prevents FM from completing the silent open operation that is necessary to resolve the cross-reference. The result is an unresolved cross-reference message. But note that if the file with the unavailable font condition is already open when you open the file that refers to it, you will *not* get an unresolved message because FM doesn't need to do a silent open. Second, FrameMaker *does* report which fonts are unavailable, but does not do it in the warning message itself. Instead, you have to look in the FrameMaker console window, which most of us are in the habit of ignoring or dismissing without bothering to read it. Third, the unavailable font does not have to be applied to any content that appears in the body of the document to cause the warning message. It is enough for the font to be specified in the definition of some format that you don't actually use, and this font specification can be in any of your catalogs--a character format, a paragraph format, a cross-reference format, or a table format. Table formats are a particular problem because each format definition invisibly embeds the character and paragraph formatting for the table title, and for each cell in the heading row, the footing row, and the first body row of the table that was the prototype when the format was defined; you will never be able to find these using the FM GUI unless you create an instance of each table format that exists in your catalog. Unavailable fonts can also lurk on master pages and reference pages which are not examined when you do a find font operation (which only searches the context in the current view) or List of References operation (which only looks at body pages). They can even be hiding in certain types of graphic objects that contain font specifications (PDF, EPS, WMF, EMF). Fourth, to get rid of an unavailable fonts condition you need to *UN-check* the Remember Missing Font Names preference. Remembering the names means that FM will do a *temporary* substitution of an available font for an unavailable one, but will retain the original, unavailable font specification in the version of the file that it saves. What you need is for FM to *forget* the names of the unavailable fonts and save the file with the substituted font specifications. So the procedure would be: 1. Open the offending file, dismissing the unavailable fonts warning. 2. Examine the FrameMaker console to determine whether all of the substitutions FM has made are appropriate (e.g., no sans-serif font subbed for a serif, no text font subbed for a symbol or wingding font). 3. Close the file. 4. Turn OFF Remember Missing Font Names. 5. Open the file. Notice that the warning message has changed, and that FrameMaker now warns you that it will be permanently *replacing* the fonts rather than substituting for them. 6. Examine the file to
Re: Scaling Images
Hi Ed,
instead of using impsize you could try dpi. This
attribute would at least respect the ratio of the imported graphic file.
The definition of dpi in the attlist is:
dpi NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
!--ignored if impsize specified--
(as described in the STRUCTURE
APPLICATION DEVELOPER GUIDE)
It would also produce a kind of scaling:
A graphic file originally designed for 300 dpi would have a smaller
representation if dpi is set to 400.
Of course, all files should have
equivalent resolution settings.
I don't know how FrameMaker will
handle a dpi-related size with a PDF, though...
I have only used this
for tiff files.
Good luck -
Tino H. Haida, Berlin
Am 2013-08-15
02:28, schrieb Ed Nodland:
I have 130 images created in Illustrator
and saved as PDFs
In my XML I have image tags such as:
img
impby=ref impsize=1.0in 0.4in position=inline src=images1537.pdf
/
without the impsize attribute
My Read/Write rules is
element img {
is fm graphic element mygraphic;
attribute src
is fm property file;
attribute width is fm property width;
attribute height is fm property height;
attribute position is fm
property position;
}
The images saved as PDF are larger than I
want. I can add impsize attributes to all of the image tags, but I'll
have to be careful to get the width-height ratio correct.
Question: Is there a scale attribute to define and use or a similar
mechanism. Or, maybe someone knows how to produce scaled PDF outputs.
Thanks
Ed
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Re: going to SalesForce Knowledge via .csv?
On 8/16/2013 9:47 AM, John Sgammato wrote: Thanks, Ben - I can go from FM to JSON acceptably well via Mif2Go, and from there ot the .CSV. The problem is SalesForce's requirement for the .CSV file. That becomes the bottleneck in the procedure. I was hoping someone had found something less primitive that SalesForce will accept. John, That makes sense. Good luck! Ben Allums all...@webworks.com 512-381-8885 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Autonumbering Puzzle for an Ordered List Numbering Scheme
Hi Alex, the main problem is to have a bullet big enough for a number with two digits. I produced a test font, where the bullet is very big and starts below the normal font line. Everything else works fine. The bullet character tag gets around -42% for the distance which will pull the following numbered paragraph on top. Of course, this will only help until you reach the number 100. I will send you my examples off-list. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin alex.lu...@sce.com: Greetings, fellow Framers. Two of us in the office have tried many ways to get autonumbering to work properly in a run-in head configuration, but we're getting very strange results, no matter what we do. As shown below, the autonumbering works fine up to 9, but then goes to 01, 11, 21, and so forth. (As you can see, we also have centering issues to eventually resolve.) What you are looking at is a glyph in Bullet Paragraph Tag (autonumber = B:●t). Bullet is a run-in paragraph. The next tag is Bullet Number (autonumber = N:tn=1t) or (N:tn+t). This is a non-run-in paragraph. We've experimented with resets and changes to series designations between the run-in and the non-run-in paragraphs, but nothing we've tried so far has worked. The best we've managed is to produce a 10, but the 10 appears at the beginning of the list, followed by numbers 1 through 9, and then numbers that increment in 10s, as before; that is, 01, 11, 21, and so forth. Does anyone happen to have a solution for this? I would really appreciate some help. I suppose it doesn't make any difference, but we are using FrameMaker 11. Alex Lukes Communications Specialist TD Standards Publications Southern California Edison ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: going to SalesForce Knowledge via .csv?
Thanks, Ben - I can go from FM to JSON acceptably well via Mif2Go, and from there ot the .CSV. The problem is SalesForce's requirement for the .CSV file. That becomes the bottleneck in the procedure. I was hoping someone had found something less primitive that SalesForce will accept. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Ben Allums all...@webworks.com wrote: On 7/26/2013 3:11 PM, John Sgammato wrote: Does anyone on this list have experience with outputting FM11 (unstr) content to a .csv file? I want to import many topics into SalesForce Knowledge but the only bulk-import method is as a massive .csv file. any ideas? John, One of our customers (using WebWorks ePublisher) did some work to export his topics as a JSON file. It is custom, though it sounds like it is close to what you are discussing. This is possible via ePublisher's XSL support. If you are up for doing a bit of XSL work, you can build a reusable format to accomplish your goal. Ben Allums all...@webworks.com 512-381-8885 -- *John Sgammato * Documentation Architect *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *w* +1-(508) 927-2083 *Recover anything instantly for up to 90% less than you're paying now.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Font suggestions for book?
This is the reason people go to graphic design school and spend all that time worrying about recognizing typefaces, the effects of leading, etc. Your audience should determine the look of the book. Check out books at your local bm bookstore--bricks and mortar, not Barnes and Noble, tho' they might be the same. Many books will list the typeface used at the front or back of the book. All typefaces have a distinct character. Academic writing uses staid and conservative type. Children's books use wacky letterforms. You want something in between. Another alternative is to go to a site like www.identifont.com and drill down through a series of font attributes. They also list the most popular fonts there. (Interestingly, they use font, not typeface, as their terminology.) Printed, longer samples of type in an actual book give you a better idea of the character of a typeface than small samples on a computer screen. These are just some starting considerations. Good luck. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
Hi Simon, Thank you for your email. Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this. However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file. Please go through the following link for *Top issues/Tech Specs/installation Instructions* http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html Thanks, Anjaneai On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote: I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results have been disappointing. I want to research on the Hunspell dictionary functionality, but all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to a setting on the Edit Preferences dialog. No further information at all. I then decided to read the FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file, which is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - System requirements http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. I suspect they meant to say: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Installation Instructions For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Trial software You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the subject. Where do I find further information on this? * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. // Simon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as anjan...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/anjaneai%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mac and Tech Comm Suite
Yes, this has been discussed on the list before and solutions provided. I don't use TCS but FM and Acrobat on Windows, CS6 and Acrobat on Mac. I use VirtualBox but they all provide similar service and functionalty. It becomes personal choice. I use Bootcamp for a Windows partition and boot the Windows partition through VirtualBox. Seamless and fast. Alan On 16/08/13 12:29 PM, gill6...@comcast.net wrote: Craig, You can't run it directly on a Mac. You have to run it in a Windows VM. I use VMWare Fusion with a Windows 7 OS. Works great! -Gillian *From: *Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com *To: *Framer's List framers@lists.frameusers.com *Sent: *Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:08:32 AM *Subject: *mac and Tech Comm Suite I'm considering replacing my current windows laptop with a Mac laptop. I know that some framers are using Macs with the latest Adobe TCS software, and I would appreciate any brief comments on the benefits/hassles of working with TCS on a Mac and what contortions have worked best for you to make this work. You can send comments to me offlist if you'd like, or post to the list if you think there is general value to the posting. Thank you. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
The Fm11 Reviewer's Guide has a short blurb about Hunspell. Here's a link to the full PDF (about 60Mb)http://bit.ly/1cKH2pTEnhanced dictionary supportAcknowledging the global usage of FrameMaker, and the increasing need forlocalization, FrameMaker 11 has added to our Proximity dictionary support byintegrating the HunSpell dictionary architecture for increased generic dictionarysupport.Using the spellings and dictionary preferences in the Edit Preferences dialog,you can set up the dictionary provider of your choice for different languages.Also, you can set up Spelling preferences to optimize the FrameMaker SpellingChecker. -MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Anjaneai S anjan...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Simon,Thank you for your email.Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this.However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file. Please go through the following link for Top issues/Tech Specs/installation Instructionshttp://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html Thanks,AnjaneaiOn Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote: I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results have been disappointing. I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to a setting on the Edit Preferences dialog. No further information at all. I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements" http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. I suspect they meant to say: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions" "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en" Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software" "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription" Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the subject. Where do I find further information on this? * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. // Simon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as anjan...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/anjaneai%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Font suggestions for book?
Choosing a font set is always a bit of a matter of taste. However, it is usual to see in (company) manuals sans serif types like Arial (ususally because no one bothers to check for anything else) or the Calibri font that came with the newer MS Office suites. I used to opt for Helvetica instead of Arial, mainly because the numbers were clearer in Helvetica. But that was clearly before Calibri times. ;-) Some serif fonts come to mind. I am working with a book now about a certain institution, and I decided to use the old Cheltenham for body and Myriad Pro for headings. I have spent a lot of time through the years looking for and comparing fonts, and in one instance, trying to decide on the best font for the dim-sighted, I made four copies of sample text with different fonts and had people test read (from a distance to closer up). The one decided upon seemed to help the dyslexics too. So, if you want to study fonts, you will be spending a lot of your free time. But it is fun! But your customer will not complement you on it, becaus he/she/they do not know what it really is that makes them like or hate the looks of the book. There are so many things to consider. But you are right: Readability counts. So, not Arial! And not fancy fonts. Probably this is of little help, but it is Friday night. :-) And, I could send you some samples in pdf if you like. Main thing is: What does your font library consist of? New fonts can be very expensive. Have a nice weekend! Bodvar, Iceland On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Hi everyone, ** ** I’m not sure whether this post went through, so I’m trying again. ** ** In the past, I’ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I’ve left “pretty stuff” such as font selection to others. So I really don’t know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it’s okay. :) ** ** Thanks, Elchanan *From:* VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM *To:* Framers; Free Framers *Subject:* OT: Font suggestions for book? ** ** Greetings everyone, ** ** I’m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I’ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial … it’s a book about the history of taxation. It’s not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to “wake up” American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. ** ** All that having been said … What are people’s favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. ** ** Well, thanks in advance! ** ** Best regards, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
AFAIK, Hunspell uses (or at least did use) plain text files. In Open Office and Libre Office, I can add to it from the old UNIX libraries for aspell or ispell. Which can be added to directly in a text editor, if you want to. I don't know whether it is any different in FM11. Have you googled hunspell? Bodvar On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote: I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results have been disappointing. I want to research on the Hunspell dictionary functionality, but all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to a setting on the Edit Preferences dialog. No further information at all. I then decided to read the FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file, which is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - System requirements http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. I suspect they meant to say: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Installation Instructions For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Trial software You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the subject. Where do I find further information on this? * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. // Simon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Font suggestions for book?
The answer is This is Your decision really! However, I can make some personal observations. I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFOYW4K/ref=docs-os-doi_0 quite a while back and found it a good read to understand how to make fonts in documents look good. (The title is Type Layout: Are You Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes.) Also, I bought Adobe Type Library Reference Book some months back: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321821254/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1 just as a reference to see how their fonts would look when printed in books. This book is definitely overkill for most people, of course, but an interesting reference to have! BTW, quite separately, this is a fun read for interesting stories on fonts - as I recall, someone on this list recommended it: http://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-ebook/dp/B00BFOYW4K/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-textie=UTF8qid=1376695562sr=1-1keywords=Just+My+TYpe. (The title is Just My Type.) Anyway, my advice is to use a Serif font for dense text (books, specifications, etc.) because it is believed to be easier to read (a myth according to some people though): http://blogs.adobe.com/acom/2008/07/to_serif_or_not_to_serif_regar_1.html ... particularly in printed text. As I recall, that is what prompted the New York Times newspaper to develop the Times font years ago. A quote from http://www.awaionline.com/2011/10/the-best-fonts-to-use-in-print-online-and-email/: Best fonts for print In his book Cashvertising, Drew Eric Whitman cites a 1986 study of fonts (printed on paper) that found only 12 percent of participants effectively comprehended a paragraph set in sans-serif type versus 67 percent who were given a version set in serif typeface. Those who read the sans-serif version said they had a tough time reading the text and continually had to backtrack to regain comprehension. In a test of three different fonts, two serifs (Garamond and Times New Roman) and one sans serif (Helvetica), he found 66 percent were able to comprehend Garamond; 31.5 percent Times New Roman, and 12.5 percent Helvetica (out of a total of 1,010,000 people surveyed). FWIW, I believe the Serif Myth ... after doing my own comparisons. So, I use Palatino Linotype for my text in documents and specifications, particularly because symbols like copyright (c) and trademark (tm) are easier to read in smaller sizes (i.e., under 10pt). Just compare two pages of the same text, one in Palatino Linotype (or Times Roman) and one in Helvetica (or Arial) to understand what I mean by easier to read denser Serif text when looking at a full page of words in a book or document or manual. Now, for on-screen readability, people believe that a Sans Serif font is best. That may well be true ... I just have not done any how does it look testing for myself yet. When I need a fixed-width font (code, scripts, certain numbers, etc.), I use Consolas since it looks very, very good on-screen and in print (unlike Courier and its variants). With text that is stretched vertically, or squeezed horizontally, at all - for example, for a banner or section/chapter heading - a Sans Serif font is better, IMHO. I used to use Arial, but switched a while back to Helvetica based on comments from people on this list. I compared the two fonts, and Helvetica is clearly better looking with rounded character structures (look at the letter e, for example). And, finally, for presentations, I now find Adobe Myriad Pro Light to be very clean and light, so I am using it more and more of late. Summary ... for me (YMMV): 1. Dense text inside the books and documents: Palatino Linotype. 2. Chapter/section header, banners: Helvetica. 3. Fixed-width content: Consolas. 4. Presentations: Adobe Myriad Pro Light. Regards, Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 8:43 AM To: Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Hi everyone, I'm not sure whether this post went through, so I'm trying again. In the past, I've worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I've left pretty stuff such as font selection to others. So I really don't know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it's okay. :) Thanks, Elchanan From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM To: Framers; Free Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Greetings everyone, I'm working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I've now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the
Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results have been disappointing. I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog. No further information at all. I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements" http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. I suspect they meant to say: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions" "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software" "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription" Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the subject. Where do I find further information on this? * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en Adobe special Error404 page again. So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. // Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/6fe76cfc/attachment.html>
OT: Font suggestions for book?
Hi everyone, I'm not sure whether this post went through, so I'm trying again. In the past, I've worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I've left "pretty stuff" such as font selection to others. So I really don't know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it's okay. :) Thanks, Elchanan From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM To: Framers; Free Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Greetings everyone, I'm working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I've now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial . it's a book about the history of taxation. It's not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to "wake up" American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said . What are people's favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards, Elchanan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/9cfbe56f/attachment.html>
OT: Font suggestions for book?
Besides being a matter of taste (which really cannot be argued), font choice cannot be done intelligently without knowing *lot* of other information, such as: - medium of the deliverable (printed, PDF, HTML, eBook, etc.) - page size (if fixed, or range of page size if variable) - column width and point size (which together determine the point size range) - leading - nature of content (fiction, general non-fiction, scholarly writing, technical documentation, etc.) - natural organization of content (all text in long paragraphs vs. text blocks broken up by shorter paragraphs and/or lists vs. text with lots of tables and figures, etc.) What works well for the kind of technical content I work with most of the time (long, complex sentences but often fairly short paragraphs, and lots of tables and bulleted lists) is very different from what I would use for some of the general non-fiction I edit on the side. And neither of those correspond to what I prefer to see when I read fiction. If you asked this question over on the Techwr-l list, I'm sure you'd get a flood of highly opinionated answers. If you asked it on the copyeditors list, I think you'd get a handful of "it depends" answers similar to mine since there are some actual book designers on that list. But over here in the world of FrameMaker, I'm not sure that we have a lot of people who fancy themselves font fondlers. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers at Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:42:48 -0700 Hi everyone, I?m not sure whether this post went through, so I?m trying again. In the past, I?ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, but in general I?ve left ?pretty stuff? such as font selection to others. So I really don?t know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it?s okay. :) Thanks,ElchananFrom: VLM TechSubs [mailto:TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM To: Framers; Free Framers Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book? Greetings everyone, I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards,Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/5430b1ba/attachment.html>
Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
It's kind of surreal. Nadine > > From: Alan Litchfield >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:24:42 PM >Subject: Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'? > > > >haha, I like that. > > >On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote: > > >> >>* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? >>??? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en >> >>Adobe special Error404 page again.
mac and Tech Comm Suite
Craig, You can't run it directly on a Mac. You have to run it in a Windows VM. I use VMWare Fusion with a Windows 7 OS. Works great! -Gillian - Original Message - From: "Craig Ede" <craig...@hotmail.com> To: "Framer's List" Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:08:32 AM Subject: mac and Tech Comm Suite I'm considering replacing my current windows laptop with a Mac laptop. I know that some framers are using Macs with the latest Adobe TCS software, and I would appreciate any brief comments on the benefits/hassles of working with TCS on a Mac and what contortions have worked best for you to make this work. You can send comments to me offlist if you'd like, or post to the list if you think there is general value to the posting. Thank you. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6034 at comcast.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/86256596/attachment.html>
Unavailable fonts message - incorrect?
Open the file. Notice that the warning message has changed, and that FrameMaker now warns you that it will be permanently *replacing* the fonts rather than substituting for them. 6. Examine the file to make sure it looks OK. 7. Save the file. Many people neglect to do this because they haven't made any explicit edits or format changes, but the font change will not "take" and be carried forward unless the file is saved after you let FM make the replacement. 8. Turn "Remember Missing Font Names" back ON. (It is normally a very good idea not to reformat a file from a colleague or client to match your own less complete font library.) This *should* take care of the problem unless the bad font name is embedded in a graphic. Another approach that some users swear by is to save the offending file as MIF and then use a text editor to search for the names of the unavailable fonts, as reported in the FM console. After making the substitution with the font editor, the file is saved as MIF, then opened from FrameMaker and saved back to .fm file format. This approach still will not look inside graphics objects, but I have personally seen cases where the source .fm file contained a *completely* spurious font specification (for a Chinese font in my case) that was removed simply by passing it through the FM->MIF filter (i.e., the bad font was not findable in the the MIF file and was gone when the file was restored to .fm format). -Fred Ridder From: pascale.STEPHENSON at upu.int<mailto:pascale.stephen...@upu.int> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Unavailable fonts message - incorrect? Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:17:25 + Hello I am using FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7. When I open a particular book, I get the classic 'unavailable fonts' error on many of the files (followed by 'unresolved cross-reference' errors, but for now I'm assuming the two are related). When my colleague opens the same book, he doesn't get any errors. Fair enough, our font setup might be a little bit different. FM doesn't report which fonts are causing the problem in the message, so I took two files, one with the error and one without, and generated a list of fonts using Special > List Of > References. Both files contain exactly the same fonts so I can't isolate it to any font in particular. Indeed, the fact one has a problem with one of the fonts and the other doesn't makes me think the error itself may be incorrect. Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea what I can do next? It seems to be one particular book causing the problem. Checking the 'Remember Missing Font Names' option doesn't stop the problem from re-occurring. Thanks in advance. Pascale ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com<mailto:DocuDoc at hotmail.com>. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com<mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/d872dc3a/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1833 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/d872dc3a/attachment.gif> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1761 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/d872dc3a/attachment-0001.gif> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2104 bytes Desc: image003.gif URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/d872dc3a/attachment-0002.gif>
Scaling Images
Hi Ed,
instead of using "impsize" you could try "dpi". This
attribute would at least respect the ratio of the imported graphic file.
The definition of "dpi" in the attlist is:
dpi NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
(as described in the STRUCTURE
APPLICATION DEVELOPER GUIDE)
It would also produce a kind of scaling:
A graphic file originally designed for 300 dpi would have a smaller
representation if "dpi" is set to 400.
Of course, all files should have
equivalent resolution settings.
I don't know how FrameMaker will
handle a dpi-related "size" with a PDF, though...
I have only used this
for tiff files.
Good luck -
Tino H. Haida, Berlin
Am 2013-08-15
02:28, schrieb Ed Nodland:
> I have 130 images created in Illustrator
and saved as PDFs
> In my XML I have image tags such as:
>
> without the impsize attribute
>
> My Read/Write rules is
>
>
element "img" {
> is fm graphic element "mygraphic";
> attribute "src"
is fm property file;
> attribute "width" is fm property width;
>
attribute "height" is fm property height;
> attribute "position" is fm
property position;
> }
>
> The images saved as PDF are larger than I
want. I can add impsize attributes to all of the image tags, but I'll
have to be careful to get the width-height ratio correct.
>
>
Question: Is there a scale attribute to define and use or a similar
mechanism. Or, maybe someone knows how to produce scaled PDF outputs.
>
> Thanks
> Ed
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going to SalesForce Knowledge via .csv?
On 8/16/2013 9:47 AM, John Sgammato wrote: > Thanks, Ben - I can go from FM to JSON acceptably well via Mif2Go, and > from there ot the .CSV. > The problem is SalesForce's requirement for the .CSV file. That becomes > the bottleneck in the procedure. > I was hoping someone had found something less primitive that SalesForce > will accept. John, That makes sense. Good luck! Ben Allums allums at webworks.com 512-381-8885
Autonumbering Puzzle for an Ordered List Numbering Scheme
Hi Alex, the main problem is to have a bullet big enough for a number with two digits. I produced a test font, where the bullet is very big and starts below the normal font line. Everything else works fine. The bullet character tag gets around -42% for the distance which will pull the following numbered paragraph on top. Of course, this will only help until you reach the number 100. I will send you my examples off-list. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Alex.Lukes at sce.com: > Greetings, fellow Framers. > > Two of us in the office have tried many ways to get autonumbering to work properly in a run-in head configuration, but we're getting very strange results, no matter what we do. > > As shown below, the autonumbering works fine up to "9," but then goes to "01," "11," "21," and so forth. (As you can see, we also have centering issues to eventually resolve.) > > What you are looking at is a glyph in "Bullet" Paragraph Tag (autonumber = B:?t). "Bullet" is a run-in paragraph. > > The next tag is "Bullet Number" (autonumber =
going to SalesForce Knowledge via .csv?
Thanks, Ben - I can go from FM to JSON acceptably well via Mif2Go, and from there ot the .CSV. The problem is SalesForce's requirement for the .CSV file. That becomes the bottleneck in the procedure. I was hoping someone had found something less primitive that SalesForce will accept. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Ben Allums wrote: > On 7/26/2013 3:11 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > >> Does anyone on this list have experience with outputting FM11 (unstr) >> content to a .csv file? >> I want to import many topics into SalesForce Knowledge but the only >> bulk-import method is as a massive .csv file. >> any ideas? >> > > John, > > One of our customers (using WebWorks ePublisher) did some work to export > his topics as a JSON file. It is custom, though it sounds like it is close > to what you are discussing. > > This is possible via ePublisher's XSL support. If you are up for doing a > bit of XSL work, you can build a reusable format to accomplish your goal. > > > Ben Allums > allums at webworks.com > 512-381-8885 > > -- *John Sgammato * Documentation Architect *e* john.sgammato at actifio.com *w* +1-(508) 927-2083 *Recover anything instantly for up to 90% less than you're paying now.* -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/d7ae83ef/attachment.html>
Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
Hi Simon, Thank you for your email. Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this. However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file. Please go through the following link for *Top issues/Tech Specs/installation Instructions* http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html Thanks, Anjaneai On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH wrote: > I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been > trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my > results have been disappointing. > > I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I > can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] > to a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog. No further information at > all. > > > I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is > part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the > end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements" > http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs > takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. > I suspect they meant to say: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions" > "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation > page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; > > Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? > OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software" > "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either > purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription" > > Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about > the subject. > Where do I find further information on this? > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? > http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en > > Adobe special Error404 page again. > > > > So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. > > // Simon > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as anjaneai at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/anjaneai%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/569cdb67/attachment.html>
Font suggestions for book?
This is the reason people go to graphic design school and spend all that time worrying about recognizing typefaces, the effects of leading, etc. Your audience should determine the look of the book. Check out books at your local b bookstore--bricks and mortar, not Barnes and Noble, tho' they might be the same. Many books will list the typeface used at the front or back of the book. All typefaces have a distinct character. Academic writing uses staid and conservative type. Children's books use wacky letterforms. You want something in between. Another alternative is to go to a site like www.identifont.com and drill down through a series of font attributes. They also list the most popular fonts there. (Interestingly, they use font, not typeface, as their terminology.) Printed, longer samples of type in an actual book give you a better idea of the character of a typeface than small samples on a computer screen. These are just some starting considerations. Good luck. Craig -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/52741004/attachment.html>
Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
The Fm11 Reviewer's Guide has a short blurb about Hunspell. Here's a link to the full PDF (about 60Mb) http://bit.ly/1cKH2pT Enhanced dictionary support Acknowledging the global usage of FrameMaker, and the increasing need for localization, FrameMaker 11 has added to our Proximity dictionary support by integrating the HunSpell dictionary architecture for increased generic dictionary support. Using the spellings and dictionary preferences in the Edit > Preferences dialog, you can set up the dictionary provider of your choice for different languages. Also, you can set up Spelling preferences to optimize the FrameMaker Spelling Checker. -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Anjaneai S wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Thank you for your email. > > Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this. > > However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a > screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file. > Please go through the following link for Top issues/Tech Specs/installation > Instructions > > http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html > > Thanks, > Anjaneai > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH wrote: > I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been > trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my results > have been disappointing. > > I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I can > find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to > a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog. No further information at all. > > > I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is part > of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of > June, but there appears to be some confusion: > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements" > http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs > takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. > I suspect they meant to say: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions" > "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: > http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; > > Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? > OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software" > "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either > purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription" > > Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the > subject. > Where do I find further information on this? > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? > http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en > > Adobe special Error404 page again. > > > > So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. > > // Simon > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as anjaneai at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/anjaneai%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as matt at mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/02461ff8/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter.png Type: image/png Size: 1331 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/02461ff8/atta
OT: Font suggestions for book?
Choosing a font set is always a bit of a matter of taste. However, it is usual to see in (company) manuals sans serif types like Arial (ususally because no one bothers to check for anything else) or the Calibri font that came with the newer MS Office suites. I used to opt for Helvetica instead of Arial, mainly because the numbers were clearer in Helvetica. But that was clearly before Calibri times. ;-) Some serif fonts come to mind. I am working with a book now about a certain institution, and I decided to use the old Cheltenham for body and Myriad Pro for headings. I have spent a lot of time through the years looking for and comparing fonts, and in one instance, trying to decide on the best font for the dim-sighted, I made four copies of sample text with different fonts and had people test read (from a distance to closer up). The one decided upon seemed to help the dyslexics too. So, if you want to study fonts, you will be spending a lot of your free time. But it is fun! But your customer will not complement you on it, becaus he/she/they do not know what it really is that makes them like or hate the looks of the book. There are so many things to consider. But you are right: Readability counts. So, not Arial! And not fancy fonts. Probably this is of little help, but it is Friday night. :-) And, I could send you some samples in pdf if you like. Main thing is: What does your font library consist of? New fonts can be very expensive. Have a nice weekend! Bodvar, Iceland On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM, VLM TechSubs < TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > ** ** > > I?m not sure whether this post went through, so I?m trying again. > > ** ** > > In the past, I?ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template > design, but in general I?ve left ?pretty stuff? such as font selection to > others. So I really don?t know what fonts might be most readable, or most > popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, > much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would > be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is > why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it?s okay. :) > > ** ** > > Thanks, > > Elchanan > > *From:* VLM TechSubs [mailto:TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM > *To:* Framers; Free Framers > *Subject:* OT: Font suggestions for book? > > ** ** > > Greetings everyone, > > ** ** > > I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. > I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the > writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily > financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly > work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young > adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, > but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense > as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, > paperback. > > ** ** > > All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended > fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring > budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would > be most welcome. > > ** ** > > Well, thanks in advance! > > ** ** > > Best regards, > > Elchanan > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/3c86c6a9/attachment.html>
Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
AFAIK, Hunspell uses (or at least did use) plain text files. In Open Office and Libre Office, I can add to it from the old UNIX libraries for aspell or ispell. Which can be added to directly in a text editor, if you want to. I don't know whether it is any different in FM11. Have you googled hunspell? Bodvar On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Simon BUCH wrote: > I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been > trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So far, my > results have been disappointing. > > I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I > can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] > to a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog. No further information at > all. > > > I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is > part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the > end of June, but there appears to be some confusion: > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements" > http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs > takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. > I suspect they meant to say: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions" > "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation > page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en; > > Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? > OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite. > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software" > "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either > purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription" > > Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about > the subject. > Where do I find further information on this? > > * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"? > http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en > > Adobe special Error404 page again. > > > > So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. > > // Simon > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/c9423020/attachment.html>
Font suggestions for book?
e, I'm working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I've now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial ... it's a book about the history of taxation. It's not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to "wake up" American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said ... What are people's favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards, Elchanan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130816/624d470e/attachment.html>
