Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Very true, Dan. So the quick way to delete all extra elements (like empty graphic tool text boxes) AND altered master pages is to click in the margin of the page, select all on the blank body page and then delete everything. Then View>Master page, then back to the body page via View>Body Page, then from the Page Layout Warning window select Remove Overrides. This will ensure you have a standard Master Page with the given name. Craig ...snip... Additionally, even if a page has a default master page applied, if it has had the main text flow dimensions altered in any way, e.g., previously dragging it slightly long to allow a cumbersome footnote or other element, that will prevent the page from being autodeleted. Technically, I suppose it is then no longer using a default master page, but it's easy to miss that simply changing an aspect of the text flow would cause the master page to no longer be considered default when you didn't consciously change the applied master page. -Dan ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Additionally, even if a page has a default master page applied, if it has had the main text flow dimensions altered in any way, e.g., previously dragging it slightly long to allow a cumbersome footnote or other element, that will prevent the page from being autodeleted. Technically, I suppose it is then no longer using a default master page, but it's easy to miss that simply changing an aspect of the text flow would cause the master page to no longer be considered default when you didn't consciously change the applied master page. -Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:38 AM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Here are the rules that FrameMaker uses for automatic page deletion: 1) Only empty pages that have default master pages applied (Left/Right) at the end of the document will be deleted. By "empty" I mean no text in the document's main flow. 2) If the page count is set to even, only empty pages beyond the last even page are deleted, which means that you may end up with an empty, even-numbered last page. Here are things that will prevent pages from being automatically deleted: 1) Any empty pages up to and including any pages that have custom master pages applied will not be deleted. 2) Any empty pages that have any non-master page items on them will not be deleted. This includes non-main flow text frames, graphic objects, etc. that are directly on the page. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:24 AM To: Frameusers List Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy -"Framers" wrote: - To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." From: Lin Sims Sent by: "Framers" Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end. Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit. On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda wrote: > I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > > After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the > end of the file. > > How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file > has been imported into FrameMaker? > > -- > Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should > consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received > this message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by > forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this > message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an > inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy > laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to > regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes > consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your > cooperation. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com > =DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY- > pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7J > zrKZ4Lk=LZNICAJ5_1jgCo-eVYdoqNmmSkyUwOLyxNyP8AJfTF0= > Archives located at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive > .com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7 > jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ&a
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
More often than not I have found that page deletion is prevented by an empty text box (not a text flow) that was accidentally created on the page that won't delete. Usually this is a result of someone using the graphic text tool and clicking on the page, not entering text and then clicking off leaving an empty text entry box. By clicking on the margin of the page and then doing a Select All (Cntl-A), the text box will show up as a selected item along with all other objects on the page (usually just the text flow from the master page). Often times there are many of such empty text boxes indicating that somebody was twitchy with the text entry tool. Just deselect the pages main text flow and hit delete to remove them. Craig ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Here are the rules that FrameMaker uses for automatic page deletion: 1) Only empty pages that have default master pages applied (Left/Right) at the end of the document will be deleted. By "empty" I mean no text in the document's main flow. 2) If the page count is set to even, only empty pages beyond the last even page are deleted, which means that you may end up with an empty, even-numbered last page. Here are things that will prevent pages from being automatically deleted: 1) Any empty pages up to and including any pages that have custom master pages applied will not be deleted. 2) Any empty pages that have any non-master page items on them will not be deleted. This includes non-main flow text frames, graphic objects, etc. that are directly on the page. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:24 AM To: Frameusers List Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy -"Framers" wrote: - To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." From: Lin Sims Sent by: "Framers" Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end. Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit. On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda wrote: > I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > > After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the > end of the file. > > How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file > has been imported into FrameMaker? > > -- > Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should > consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received > this message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by > forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this > message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an > inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy > laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to > regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes > consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your > cooperation. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com > =DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY- > pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7J > zrKZ4Lk=LZNICAJ5_1jgCo-eVYdoqNmmSkyUwOLyxNyP8AJfTF0= > Archives located at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive > .com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7 > jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ& > m=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=W32o0r7FqG2nwBODvPoDfo > 5pSesvafEM-0tGfLiu8IY= > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.c > om_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8 > b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOf > Q=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=RBE8rwjpq2YgmmO2ZG0k > ZnswiF_GrjFCBjbjwNdhZOE= Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZ
Re: [Framers] [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Thanks -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+bgeorge=federatedinv@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:24 AM To: Frameusers List Subject: [EXT] Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file CAUTION: External Email! Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bucheremhartglass.com=DwIGaQ=mh4eI_ggIp4Ga5smh2SsMpL7epEqhzWkNpWqpQjenPY=8SqYDAnJtOx11656qm8IYqKsyd2tbrq8xx8bIhMROKo=JsnIpRFKS44yn3v29nRkG5aA3zgMySTgMG3OlXo0zww=zcPGmhIqK24hBUFpeWo4dXrl4hk6xDu6Z5vghqkg3gk= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bucherindustries.com=DwIGaQ=mh4eI_ggIp4Ga5smh2SsMpL7epEqhzWkNpWqpQjenPY=8SqYDAnJtOx11656qm8IYqKsyd2tbrq8xx8bIhMROKo=JsnIpRFKS44yn3v29nRkG5aA3zgMySTgMG3OlXo0zww=diLwsAc0cl98hQxB13UPtovC5-IZVsDyhUm1obqEoWs= Privacy Policy: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bucheremhartglass.com_privacy=DwIGaQ=mh4eI_ggIp4Ga5smh2SsMpL7epEqhzWkNpWqpQjenPY=8SqYDAnJtOx11656qm8IYqKsyd2tbrq8xx8bIhMROKo=JsnIpRFKS44yn3v29nRkG5aA3zgMySTgMG3OlXo0zww=7XnImjOOw9xjADeWrRDCng8LGC4OpNTnNQ-rAeTEiE4= -"Framers" wrote: - To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." From: Lin Sims Sent by: "Framers" Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end. Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit. On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda wrote: > I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > > After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the > end of the file. > > How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file > has been imported into FrameMaker? > > -- > Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should > consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received > this message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by > forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this > message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an > inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy > laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to > regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes > consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your > cooperation. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com > =DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY- > pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7J > zrKZ4Lk=LZNICAJ5_1jgCo-eVYdoqNmmSkyUwOLyxNyP8AJfTF0= > Archives located at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive > .com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7 > jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ& > m=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=W32o0r7FqG2nwBODvPoDfo > 5pSesvafEM-0tGfLiu8IY= > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.c > om_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8 > b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOf > Q=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=RBE8rwjpq2YgmmO2ZG0k > ZnswiF_GrjFCBjbjwNdhZOE= Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy -"Framers" wrote: - To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." From: Lin Sims Sent by: "Framers" Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end. Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit. On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda wrote: > I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > > After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the end > of the file. > > How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file has > been imported into FrameMaker? > > -- > Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should > consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this > message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by forwarding > this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this message from > your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received > email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by > or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement > agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business > interests. Thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=LZNICAJ5_1jgCo-eVYdoqNmmSkyUwOLyxNyP8AJfTF0= > Archives located at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=W32o0r7FqG2nwBODvPoDfo5pSesvafEM-0tGfLiu8IY= > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=RBE8rwjpq2YgmmO2ZG0kZnswiF_GrjFCBjbjwNdhZOE= > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=LZNICAJ5_1jgCo-eVYdoqNmmSkyUwOLyxNyP8AJfTF0= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=W32o0r7FqG2nwBODvPoDfo5pSesvafEM-0tGfLiu8IY= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=w96iimxWaRltlr7Olfp6sJFoh1_yW6GfxZ7JzrKZ4Lk=RBE8rwjpq2YgmmO2ZG0kZnswiF_GrjFCBjbjwNdhZOE= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image.46163548416.png Type: image/png Size: 11081 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20200416/46bdfe2f/attachment.png> ___ This message is from the Fram
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end. Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit. On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda wrote: > I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > > After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the end > of the file. > > How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file has > been imported into FrameMaker? > > -- > Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should > consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this > message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by forwarding > this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this message from > your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received > email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by > or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement > agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business > interests. Thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
Hello Brenda If the pages are truly blank they should disappear as soon as you save the file. Roger Sent from BlueMail On 16 Apr 2020, 11:40 am, at 11:40 am, "George, Brenda" wrote: >I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. > >After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the >end of the file. > >How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file >has been imported into FrameMaker? > >-- >Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should >consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be >confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received >this message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by >forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this >message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an >inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy >laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to >regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes >consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your >cooperation. >___ > >This message is from the Framers mailing list > >Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >Archives located at >http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >Subscribe and unsubscribe at >http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file
I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11. After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the end of the file. How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file has been imported into FrameMaker? -- Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact Federated Hermes immediately by forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Blank pages
I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank pages
Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Blank pages
List of reasons for unwanted blank pages (from Harro de Jong): Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count odd/even (can add an empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side (can add an empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to anything other than Next Available.) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right - Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind) the body text frame - Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) On 12-Mar-14 12:15 AM, Pam Harper wrote: I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank pages
And note that the Next Available option can only be chosen when you are setting pagination from the *book file* window. FrameMaker keeps separate file-level pagination properties in each component file and book-level pagination properties in each book file that use the components. Next Available has no meaning in the single file context (because there is no preceding file), so it's not available in the menu. Another possible cause of Pam's problem is that pages that have no visible content may not be truly empty from FrameMaker's perspective. For example, any page that has had a specific non-default master page applied is *not empty* because it contains a master page specification as a property. Manually placed frames can also cause problems even if they are empty of any content because they still exist as objects on the page. -Fred Ridder From: craig...@hotmail.com To: phar...@bailiwick.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank pages Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:12:24 -0500 Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank pages
Also, if you have a master page for blank pages, make sure it doesn't have a text box on it that is set to be editable on the body pages. That had me pulling my hair out a few weeks ago. Lisa From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: 03 12, 2014 10:12 AM To: Pam Harper; framers Subject: RE: Blank pages Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.commailto:phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.commailto:craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ** Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for use only by the person(s) or organization listed in the address. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at O'Neil Associates, Inc., immediately. Any copying, dissemination, or distribution of this communication, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Updated to add a couple more causes. Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count odd/even (can add an empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side (can add an empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to anything other than Next Available.) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right - Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind) the body text frame - Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame Kind regards, Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Updated to add a couple more causes. Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination->Make page count odd/even (can add an empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination-> 1st page side (can add an empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to anything other than Next Available.) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right - Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind) the body text frame - Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame Kind regards, Harro de Jong Triview
RE: comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Dunno if this is comprehensive, but at least it's a start. Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count odd/even (can add empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side (can add empty page at start of chapter) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting Kind regards, Harro de Jong Technical Writer Triview Technical Communication Head Office: Nieuweweg 91b, 3765GC Soest, The Netherlands UK Office: 11 Tamworth Road, Staffordshire WS14 9EY, Lichfield - UK Phone: +31 (0)35 602 9696 (menu 221) | Mobile: 06 5473 4783 mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com | www.triviewgroup.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 20:50 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: comprehensive list of causes of blank pages? Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/harro.dejong%40triviewgroup.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
On 22/01/2013 4:41 AM, Harro de Jong wrote: Dunno if this is comprehensive, but at least it's a start. Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count odd/even (can add empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side (can add empty page at start of chapter) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting And if Pagination is set to Double-sided, even with Delete Empty Pages before saving, you may get an empty page if the following file in the book is set to anything other than Next Available. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Dunno if this is comprehensive, but at least it's a start. Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination->Make page count odd/even (can add empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination-> 1st page side (can add empty page at start of chapter) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting Kind regards, Harro de Jong Technical Writer Triview Technical Communication Head Office: Nieuweweg 91b, 3765GC Soest, The Netherlands UK Office: 11 Tamworth Road, Staffordshire WS14 9EY, Lichfield - UK Phone: +31 (0)35 602 9696 (menu 221) | Mobile: 06 5473 4783 mailto:Harro.deJong at triviewgroup.com | www.triviewgroup.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 20:50 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: comprehensive list of causes of blank pages? Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as harro.dejong at triviewgroup.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/harro.dejong%40triviewgroup.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
On 22/01/2013 4:41 AM, Harro de Jong wrote: > Dunno if this is comprehensive, but at least it's a start. > > Blank pages at any position: > - Manual page break > - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of > page setting > - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the > table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs > with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) > - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page > - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings > - Tables with straddled columns > - pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) > > Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: > - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination->Make page count odd/even (can add > empty page at end of chapter) > - rightclick chapter in book->Pagination-> 1st page side (can add empty page > at start of chapter) > - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of > page setting > And if Pagination is set to Double-sided, even with Delete Empty Pages before saving, you may get an empty page if the following file in the book is set to anything other than Next Available. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list.
Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi, I found an topic in the list's archive about blank pages showing up in online help, which is a problem I'm having. The answer posted didn't really help so I thought I'd repost the question with a few more details. I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 and WebWorks Publisher to generate both Webhelp and MS HTML Help. A blank page shows up after every single topic. The problem is that these blank pages are part of the navigation so previous and next buttons go to them and will go to page not found error if you just remove them. I have checked all the settings in FrameMaker to make sure blank pages are a removed and the Double-Sided 1st Page Side setting is set to Next Available. Does anyone have any idea where these blank pages are coming from? Below is the original post I found in the archive: Hi Guys, Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Thanks, Melissa Any help you can give is very much appreciated! Erin Easter Lead Technical Writer Tableau Software t: 206.633.3400 x524 e: eeaster at tableausoftware dot com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Blank Pages in Online Help
Erin Easter wrote: Hi, I found an topic in the list's archive about blank pages showing up in online help, which is a problem I'm having. The answer posted didn't really help so I thought I'd repost the question with a few more details. I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 and WebWorks Publisher to generate both Webhelp and MS HTML Help. A blank page shows up after every single topic. The problem is that these blank pages are part of the navigation so previous and next buttons go to them and will go to page not found error if you just remove them. I have checked all the settings in FrameMaker to make sure blank pages are a removed and the Double-Sided 1st Page Side setting is set to Next Available. Does anyone have any idea where these blank pages are coming from? Below is the original post I found in the archive: Erin, Are you setting the pagination in the individual files or in the book window? The book window settings will override the file settings. Also make sure there are no blank pages remaining in the topic files. Even with Remove Blank Pages set, blank pages may remain if they contain invisible items like empty frames or text lines, or if they use any master page other than default left/right. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet. -- Ukrainian proverb ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi, I found an topic in the list's archive about blank pages showing up in online help, which is a problem I'm having. The answer posted didn't really help so I thought I'd repost the question with a few more details. I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 and WebWorks Publisher to generate both Webhelp and MS HTML Help. A blank page shows up after every single topic. The problem is that these blank pages are part of the navigation so previous and next buttons go to them and will go to page not found error if you just remove them. I have checked all the settings in FrameMaker to make sure blank pages are a removed and the Double-Sided 1st Page Side setting is set to Next Available. Does anyone have any idea where these blank pages are coming from? Below is the original post I found in the archive: Hi Guys, Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Thanks, Melissa Any help you can give is very much appreciated! Erin Easter Lead Technical Writer Tableau Software t: 206.633.3400 x524 e: eeaster at tableausoftware dot com
Blank Pages in Online Help
Erin Easter wrote: > Hi, > > > > I found an topic in the list's archive about blank pages showing up in > online help, which is a problem I'm having. The answer posted didn't > really help so I thought I'd repost the question with a few more > details. I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 and WebWorks Publisher to generate > both Webhelp and MS HTML Help. A blank page shows up after every single > topic. The problem is that these blank pages are part of the navigation > so previous and next buttons go to them and will go to page not found > error if you just remove them. > > > > I have checked all the settings in FrameMaker to make sure blank pages > are a removed and the Double-Sided 1st Page Side setting is set to Next > Available. Does anyone have any idea where these blank pages are coming > from? Below is the original post I found in the archive: > Erin, Are you setting the pagination in the individual files or in the book window? The book window settings will override the file settings. Also make sure there are no blank pages remaining in the topic files. Even with Remove Blank Pages set, blank pages may remain if they contain invisible items like empty frames or text lines, or if they use any master page other than default left/right. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet." -- Ukrainian proverb
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi, I've had that problem, only mine were after the chapter title. I never solved it, so I use the mini-TOC to fill up the blank page. Each chapter has a mini-TOC and I don't have blank pages in my Help. Katy Katy Wegner Senior Technical Writer Direct: 303.217.9028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LeftHand Networks Main: 303.449.4100 Sales: 1.866.4.IP-SANS www.lefthandnetworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Sorry, all. My earlier reply was not about FrameMaker. I had a mental list-lapse. Katy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re: Blank Pages in Online Help
I ran into a bug recently where I saw no blank pages, but they appeared in a PDF generated using automated scripts. Here was what happened: template 1 ws converted to template 2 and then template 3 using Framescript. Somehow the framescript introduced a bug in one of the tables whereby content in the table was duplicated on 2 pages. This was only apparent in the Frame document when you highlighted the entire table. The table had to be deleted and re-created. Then the mystery page went away. Depending on what you are using to generate online help, I could see the tool adding the blank page because the ending chapter paragraph tag is empty, or because like you say you have the doc set to print double-sided. -meg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi, I've had that problem, only mine were after the chapter title. I never solved it, so I use the mini-TOC to fill up the blank page. Each chapter has a mini-TOC and I don't have blank pages in my Help. Katy Katy Wegner Senior Technical Writer Direct: 303.217.9028 Katy.Wegner at lefthandnetworks.com LeftHand Networks Main: 303.449.4100 Sales: 1.866.4.IP-SANS www.lefthandnetworks.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale > Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so > that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for > online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does > anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I > have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those "blank" pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Katy.Wegner at lefthandnetworks.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blank Pages in Online Help
Sorry, all. My earlier reply was not about FrameMaker. I had a mental list-lapse. Katy -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale > Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so > that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for > online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does > anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I > have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those "blank" pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Katy.Wegner at lefthandnetworks.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blank Pages in Online Help
I ran into a bug recently where I saw no blank pages, but they appeared in a PDF generated using automated scripts. Here was what happened: template 1 ws converted to template 2 and then template 3 using Framescript.? Somehow the framescript introduced a bug in one of the tables whereby content in the table was duplicated on 2 pages.? This was only apparent in the Frame document when you highlighted the entire table.? The table had to be deleted and re-created. Then the mystery page went away. Depending on what you are using to generate online help, I could see the tool adding the blank page because the ending chapter paragraph tag is empty, or because like you say you have the doc set to print double-sided. -meg
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi Guys, Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Thanks, Melissa
Blank Pages in Online Help
Melissa Di Natale > Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so > that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for > online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does > anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I > have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those "blank" pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
The blanks were probably added in Acrobat, not Frame... The only way you could fudge it in FM would be to manually set the page numbers, which I think would be more bother than it's worth. It'll take you about 93 seconds to do it in Acrobat... Art On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: For a small number of pages that won't reflow as you edit (for example, you edit page 4 and it flows to page 5, causing page 6 to create a new page 7) you could create a book file and divide the original file into one-page files. Set the pagination to Make Page Count Even, then assign a starting page number to each component file. Look up the topic Page count across a book in FM Help, for the technique to achieve page n of xx pages. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, If you are always adding a blank page after each of the existing pages, you could have an Acrobat JavaScript script add them to the PDF file. Everytime you make a new PDF file, you would run the JavaScript script on the PDF file. You could also use FrameScript to postprocess the PDF file and add the pages. But if you only have 6 pages and you are not going to make the PDF many times, you might be better off adding the pages to the PDF by hand. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new point page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, blank point pages. Choose Format Page Layout Master Page Usage and apply None master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: You don't need to make a book within a book; just break the six-page chapter into separate files and set the numbering and pagination as I suggested earlier. If it's a long book with many pages, the suggestions to add the blanks in Acrobat are probably most efficient. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new point page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, blank point pages. Choose Format Page Layout Master Page Usage and apply None master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
The blanks were probably added in Acrobat, not Frame... The only way you could fudge it in FM would be to manually set the page numbers, which I think would be more bother than it's worth. It'll take you about 93 seconds to do it in Acrobat... Art On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: For a small number of pages that won't reflow as you edit (for example, you edit page 4 and it flows to page 5, causing page 6 to create a new page 7) you could create a book file and divide the original file into one-page files. Set the pagination to Make Page Count Even, then assign a starting page number to each component file. Look up the topic "Page count across a book" in FM Help, for the technique to achieve "page n of xx pages." HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, If you are always adding a blank page after each of the existing pages, you could have an Acrobat JavaScript script add them to the PDF file. Everytime you make a new PDF file, you would run the JavaScript script on the PDF file. You could also use FrameScript to postprocess the PDF file and add the pages. But if you only have 6 pages and you are not going to make the PDF many times, you might be better off adding the pages to the PDF by hand. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? Hi all -- I'm getting various replies onlist and off; I'm replying offlist because the replies don't add much to the discussion. I'll summarize for the list later. Thanks to everyone so far. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new "point" page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, "blank" point pages. Choose Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage and apply "None" master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: You don't need to make a book within a book; just break the six-page chapter into separate files and set the numbering and pagination as I suggested earlier. If it's a long book with many pages, the suggestions to add the blanks in Acrobat are probably most efficient. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. > > 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until > a new "point" page is added. > > 4) Go to each of the new, "blank" point pages. Choose Format > Page Layout > > Master Page Usage and apply "None" master page to each of the point pages. > This will suppress the point page numbers. > > Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter > any of the following problems: > > * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. > * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. > > You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing > 585-659-8267 > www.frameexpert.com > > > > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > > no longer available for consultation. > > > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > > to find out. > > > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -- > > Milan Davidovic > > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc.
Re: 2 blank pages
At 17:26 +0300 14/9/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? Special - Delete Pages? Also, are they really blank? Is there actually something there that you aren't currently displaying, such as empty paragraphs or anchored frames. (The latter unlikely in an index, I grant, but not impossible.) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 2 blank pages
Have you made sure that they don't have a Custom master page applied to them? Applying a Custom master page tends to override a number of pagination functions. If it is custom, change to Left/Right, then try saving the file again and see if the extra pages go away. --- Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? John Posada Senior Technical Writer I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 2 blank pages
At 5:26 PM +0300 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? One possibility is that upon generation of the book the penultimate index page has a lone trailing empty paragraph on it (the end of flow marker would be visible) and that page makes the page count odd for the file. If your setup is to make page count even for that file, then Frame would add an additional page to the index to satisfy that criterion. But whatever it is, it's definitely fixable. :-) - web ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
2 blank pages
I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson
2 blank pages
At 17:26 +0300 14/9/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under >Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? Special -> Delete Pages? Also, are they really blank? Is there actually something there that you aren't currently displaying, such as empty paragraphs or anchored frames. (The latter unlikely in an index, I grant, but not impossible.) -- Steve
2 blank pages
Have you made sure that they don't have a Custom master page applied to them? Applying a Custom master page tends to override a number of pagination functions. If it is custom, change to Left/Right, then try saving the file again and see if the extra pages go away. --- Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I > tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete > Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? John Posada Senior Technical Writer "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."
2 blank pages
Pagination is probably being controlled by the book file... so you checked the settings for both the Index and the file that follow it? If you're using Delete Pages to remove the two pages, when are they reappearing? When you regenerate the Index, Update the book, or some other time? If you add a new Index to the book and update, does it also have extra pages? Art On 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility > under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
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Another possibility I have encountered is disconnected text flows. The tell tale sing is a lonely "End of flow" marker at the top of the last page (or sometimes the next-to-last page. Regards, Berny Gagn? Lead Technical Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:35 AM To: Shmuel Wolfson Cc: Framers Subject: Re: 2 blank pages Pagination is probably being controlled by the book file... so you checked the settings for both the Index and the file that follow it? If you're using Delete Pages to remove the two pages, when are they reappearing? When you regenerate the Index, Update the book, or some other time? If you add a new Index to the book and update, does it also have extra pages? Art On 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every > possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___
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At 11:18 -0400 14/9/06, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) wrote: >The tell tale sing is a lonely "End of flow"... How does that one go, then? ;-) Maybe to the tune of 'O sole mio'? -- Steve
2 blank pages
At 5:26 PM +0300 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under >Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? One possibility is that upon generation of the book the penultimate index page has a lone trailing empty paragraph on it (the end of flow marker would be visible) and that page makes the page count odd for the file. If your setup is to make page count even for that file, then Frame would add an additional page to the index to satisfy that criterion. But whatever it is, it's definitely fixable. :-) - web
Blank pages [WAS: Framers Digest, Vol 5, Issue 23]
I think the problem here is that with technical manuals you are addressing people of different ethnic origins, languages etc. Many foreigners can read the "English jargon" they have learned that relates to their jobs and interests, but may have problem reading regular text or "jargon" relating to other technical fields such as publishing and printing. I have had questions from several people: "What does pagination mean?" "Intentionally Left Blank" serves the purpose of indicating in words comprehensible to most that there is no contents missing on that page -- that the page is not blank by accident, s.a. duplicate paper feed etc. So if we want to change this the text must be replaced by some other text easily understandable by foreigners that have only minor general konwledge in English. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing, Flight Support Air Atlanta Icelandic On 3/24/06, Keith Smyth wrote: > >RE: Paragraph tag with Frame below >At my last contract (I am retired now), we put "This page added for >pagination purposes" on the otherwise blank page, headers and footers >included. Received compliments from the customers, as it made more sense to >them that "This page intentionally left blank" and no reason given. > > ...and of course I forgot to include the link the first time = ugh! > > [1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676280 > > > The writer of this piece is close when they write 'Some theorise that it is a > * > koan*, a statement devoid of meaning designed to bring the minds of those that > read it to a higher state of being.' In fact, the point is that a completely > bl > ank page is representative of the Ultimate Void, a state of Complete > Nothingnes > s - and this scares those who have not yet reached the aforementioned higher > st > ate of being. A completely blank page just looks *wrong*, it's deeply > unsettlin > g. > > I have more than often been asked to add an 'intentionally left blank' logo, > be > cause 'otherwise our readers will think it's a mistake'. The issue arises > regul > arly with blank trailing pages of chapters of books where the chapter opener > fa > lls on a right-hand page. > > So, folks, don't terrify your readers - at least add a page number, which can > r > epresent the sound of one hand clapping in the Void ;-) > > If clients demand more, I suggest a legally-watertight non-contradictory > constr > uction along the lines of: > > 'This page is intentional left void of meaningful content other than this > parag > raph, which, for the avoidance of doubt, represents content that is intended > to > denote only the absence of content'. > > > -- > Keith L. Smyth > President > Smyth Consulting > - > Many times I really wonder whether a God > subtle enough to have invented Quantum > Mechanics would really be interested in having > people deliver rote prayers and swing incense > pots in his direction. > - > Technical Documentation Consultant > > References > >1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676280 > ___ > >
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A page with "Intentionally left blank" on it is a contradiction in terms: as soon as you put this phrase on the page, it is no longer blank, or is it? ;-) -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com
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>A page with "Intentionally left blank" on it is a contradiction in terms: >as > soon as you put this phrase on the page, it is no longer blank, or is it? If you want to get technical (and literal), sure it still is. It is necessary to remember context. The context of the manual is, let's say, how to install a wizzie. That page has no wizzie installation content, therefore, it is blank. The "Intentionally left blank" statement is only describing the state of the page, not the state of the content. John Posada Senior Technical Writer
