Re: Shared Partitions?

2004-06-28 Thread Thomas Moyer
Okay so using a FAT partition is not a good idea.  What about the other
way around.  Share /home/user for Windows XP to access.
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Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Jon Noack
On 06/27/04 03:06, Remi wrote:
See that's I'm thinking, the raw performance is very attractive to me!! So
what's this about a p4 1.7 outperforming a 2.8? You got link to benchmarks?
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Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote:
I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT.
Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the
i386 would be easier to run, so I guess my question is what is
the state of the AMD64 FreeBSD version?
You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, 
right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 
2.8GHz running the same OS.
A Pentium-M 1.7Ghz will outperform a 2.8Ghz P4 too ;)
If battery life is important to you I'd suggest not getting an AMD64.
For raw performance it's pretty nice though :)
He said Pentium-M.  It's a completely different processor than the 
Pentium 4-M.  Designed for mobile computing, it is best described as 
combining the best features of the Pentium 3 (short(er) pipeline, etc.) 
and the Pentium 4 (better branch predictor, etc.) with high-end power 
saving features to form a third processor far superior to the previous two.

Here's a first look at the chip:
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/
Some benchmarks where a 1.6GHz Pentium-M destroys a 2.2GHz Pentium 4-M:
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-13.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-14.html
Battery life in the 6+ hour range is common with Pentium-M laptops. 
Here's the first look results (note the Pentium 4-M had a battery with 
over 20% greater capacity!):
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-17.html

If you value battery life, go with the Pentium-M.  If you *most highly* 
value performance, the Athlon64 is probably the way to go.

Jon
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Re: Shared Partitions?

2004-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:05:48 -0400
Thomas Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a Fat32 partition that I use to share files between Windows
 and FreeBSD.  I have it mounted on /home and when it mounts the
 owner of all the files is root and the group is wheel.  Is there a
 way to change that so it acts like a normal home partition? In other
 words the individual directories and files are owned by the user
 etc.

Since FAT has no ability to permissions, it has to be mount as
something... it defualts to root... check out the -g and -u switches
for mount...
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Re: changing cards in a reader

2004-06-28 Thread hoe-waa
Scott Mitchell wrote

Hi Robert,

Weird - that's what works for me, so I don't know how much more help I can
offer, but here are a few suggestions that might help us figure out what's
going on...

 Boot with 128MB card installed.

 hp# ls -l /dev/da*
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  20 Jun 26 18:50 /dev/da0
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  21 Jun 26 18:50 /dev/da1
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  22 Jun 26 18:50 /dev/da2
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  24 Jun 26 18:50 /dev/da2s1
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  23 Jun 26 18:50 /dev/da3

Ah... you're running FreeBSD 5 - it was pretty late when I wrote that first
reply, so I didn't notice that immediately.  Unlike FreeBSD 4, where stuff
in /dev/ had to be created manually, FreeBSD 5 uses devfs to create the
device nodes as needed, when devices come and go.  I haven't actually used
my card reader on 5 yet, so I could be missing something obvious here...

 Remove 128MB card and insert 8MB card

 hp# camcontrol rescan 0:0:2
 Re-scan of 0:0:2 was successful

What does 'fdisk da2' give you at this point?
Do you get anything in /var/log/messages when you insert the new card?

It might be worth doing a 'camcontrol start' after the rescan, just in
case, but I don't really think that will make any difference.

Since you're running FreeBSD 5, it might be worth re-porting your question
to the freebsd-current mailing list, to see if anyone there can shed some
light on this.

Sorry I can't be more help,

Scott


Aloha and mahalo Scott
I had tried the camcontrol start before but I tried again without any good stuff.
Fdisk seems to show the correct readings but I could use some help interpreting
the output of /var/log/messages.
 
I am traveling now so I am using my laptop which is running current. When I return
to Kona (7-6) I will try on one of my desktops that are running 5.2.1

Thanks again for helping.
Robert

hp# ls -l /mnt/olympus
total 16
drwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  8192 Jun 26 14:24 dcim
drwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  8192 Jan  1  1980 imolym
hp# umount /mnt/olympus
hp# camcontrol eject 0:0:2
Unit stopped successfully, Media ejected

Remove 8MB card and insert 128MB card

hp# camcontrol rescan 0:0:2
Re-scan of 0:0:2 was successful
hp# fdisk da2
*** Working on device /dev/da2 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (= 32MB))
start 47, size 255953 (124 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 16;
end: cyl 499/ head 15/ sector 32
The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED


Jun 27 09:01:13 hp su: robert to root on /dev/ttyp0
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 40 0 0 0 0 0 
0 0 0
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Not ready to ready change, medium 
may have changed
Jun 27 09:03:01 hp kernel: (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
hp#

hp# camcontrol start 0:0:2
Unit started successfully
hp# mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/olympus
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2s1: Invalid argument
hp#


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Re: [from newbies] RE: IPFW2 + 4.10

2004-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Matt,
IPFW2 is not compiled into 4.10 by default. At a shell, type man ipfw, 
then a single forward slash (to bring up the search tool), then search 
for STABLE a couple of times  directions are in there

Here it is anyway
USING IPFW2 IN FreeBSD-STABLE
ipfw2 is standard in FreeBSD CURRENT, whereas FreeBSD STABLE still uses
ipfw1 unless the kernel is compiled with options IPFW2, and /sbin/ipfw
and /usr/lib/libalias are recompiled with -DIPFW2 and reinstalled (the
same effect can be achieved by adding IPFW2=TRUE to /etc/make.conf before
a buildworld).
Hope that helps,
Matt
clayton rollins wrote:
On June 28, 2004, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello freebsd-newbies,
I am still fairly new at the BSD level, migrated from linux. The
question that I have is, is Version 4.10 kernel compiled with IPFW2,
I know the doc's say that CURRENT version has and that it was
implemented in 2002, yet the doc's say that STABLE does not have
it compiled into the kernel.
Can some one please clarify
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(Can't reply on -newbies, it's a list charter thing :).)
4.x versions come from the STABLE branch and, so, do not
have ipfw2 compiled in the kernel by default. (Instead, they
use the older, and more tested, ipfw.)
If you want ipfw2, refer to 'man 8 ipfw', the section using
ipfw2 on freebsd-stable, for very good instructions.
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Re: Mirrors needed?

2004-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Brad Pugh wrote:
I just wanted to see if you guys in need of anymore mirrors for you're
downloads?
 
If so how much space does you're downloads need? 
Thanks for your offer. Please refer to:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html
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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 One way is to put your local changes into files/patch-aa [1] using
 diff format.  Other times it's as simple as defining some environment
 variables by passing them into make, via /etc/make.conf, etc.

But what happens to the file files/patch-aa after I do 

cd /usr/src
make update

?  (I use CVSup to keep current.)

I'm sorry for not mentioning this at the beginning.

Kai
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dhclient with reconfigured SSID

2004-06-28 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
Hi,
Somebody on the block has recently bought him or herself WLAN hardware 
which interferes somewhat with mine.
When my laptop (5-CURRENT) is booting, it requests a dhcp address and 
for that it needs to associate itself with a SSID.
Unfortunately my card almost always connects to my neighbors AP.

Why idea how I can preconfigure an SSID for dhclient ?
Thanks,
Stephan
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Re: cue images

2004-06-28 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 27 Jun Daniel Eriksson wrote:
 Jeremy Faulkner wrote: 
 What international standard describes their format?
 Windows is not a standard.
 
 Many times a de-facto standard is just as important/valid as a real
 standard.

That's precisely what M$ is aiming at. It's just a wrong attitude. A
standard is a standard. de-facto does NOT equal standard The fact
that a program can handle those non-standards is cool, but that's it.

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Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Michal Pasternak [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]:
You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop,
right? :-)  A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the  P4
2.8GHz running the same OS.
... but will it outperform it also by heat dissipation?
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So far my athlon 64 3200+ has been one of the coolest running processors I've
ever owned... although I've never used it in a laptop, my friend's p4 2.8 is
running a lot hotter...
Ken
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what types of network cards work with thinkpads?

2004-06-28 Thread Gary Kline

Well, I'm seeing some promising thinkpads over on ebay.
Some with 10/100 netword card, most without.  Cann nybody
clue me in on what types of laptop NICs work with FBSD?

thanks muchly,

gary


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Problem restarts

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

I'm having a problem with spontaneous restarts.  This isn't a new problem,
but I've done the obvious things and the problem hasn't gone away.  I
was thinking of asking on -hackers, but I'm trying here first.

The system is a 4.8 with a mix of patches and port upgrades of various
ages.  I'm planning to rebuild the whole thing, bringing it up to date,
but I'm hoping to be able to wait for a 5.x in STABLE; I don't want to do
this twice, since I expect I'll have to dump and restore everything.

The hardware is a 2.6 GHz P4 with 2 GByte of GEIL dual-channel memory.
(The problem existed on the previous, somewhat slower, memory as well.)
The box contains the processor and motherboard (Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394),
two floppy drives, CD and CD/W drives, an HP DAT, three IBM/Hitachi
36G/10K SCSI drives, and one 120G IDE.  The SCSI card is by Adaptec; the
video card is a low-end NVidia, and I'm running their video driver.  The
PS is an Antec True380, which should be enough for the box, with something
to spare.  There are several extra, large fans, of which more later.

The system, monitor, printer, and cable modem are all powered through an
APC BACK-UPS 450, about 18 months old.  It's shown in the last week that
it can keep things up for more than an hour.

The symptom is a restart that leaves no indication of how it happened.

  Recently, the system shut down (completely, and at the power supply)
  instead of restarting.  In that case, the last deliberate shutdown
  was a `shutdown -h now'; it appears that in every other case, the last
  deliberate shutdown was a `-r now'.  (Question: does the machine
  architecture have settings for reset-resume .vs. reset-halt, settings
  that might be remembered when a later action occurs?)  It has
  subsequently shut down with an immediate restart.

There are no failure indications in the /var/log/messages, nor reported
by dmesg.  (The console scrolls by very quickly.)  The message sequence
over the restart typically looks like this:

===
Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:44
t
o 00:05:00:e7:17:57 on em0
Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:57
t
o 00:05:00:e7:17:44 on em0
Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Network Number: 24.228.64.0
Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 255.255.255.255
Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,
198
9, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994


The restart most often occurs AFTER X has been shut down (and often
restarted) but sometimes when X has not been run.  It most often occurs
when the system is under heavy CPU load, but sometimes when the load
has been light.

I thought at one time it might be a thermal problem and undertook to
fix that.  (I am still working to get more cooling air over the disks.)
Right now, I have 120 mm fans rated at 130-135 CFM (Panaflow and JMC)
pushing air in and out of the box, and pressurizing a duct feeding the
CPU cooler, which is now cool to the touch.  The memory modules are cool
to the touch.  While the disks need a proper plenum to route more air
over them, I no longer believe that there is a thermal problem.  The
vid card's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch; the
northbridge's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch.

(Some people commute to white-collar jobs in heavy pickups; I drive a
small server as my PC.  No chrome pipes.)

So: what should I do next?  Should I set the system up to go to the
kernel debugger on panic, or even start it via the kernel debugger?
(Where is the full documentation?)  Should I shell out for an even
bigger power supply?  Is there another log that I should examine?
A restart wire that I should check?  A power bus I should scope?
(I'll have to borrow a scope somewhere.)  Is it time for an exorcist?

Thanks for your help.

Mark Terribile




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mc and kde 3.2

2004-06-28 Thread Javier Ramirez
Hi
I have a question, 
why freebsd 5.2.1 don't have mc ?
and how adapt kde 3.2 to my freebsd 5.2.1 ?

regards 
Javier Ramirez

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mc and kde 3.2

2004-06-28 Thread Javier Ramirez
Hi
I have a question, 
why freebsd 5.2.1 don't have mc ?
and how adapt kde 3.2 to my freebsd 5.2.1 ?

regards 
Javier Ramirez

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RE: Updating source code manually

2004-06-28 Thread Iain Dooley
thanks all for your suggestions. i'll refrain from running the portupgrade 
on KDE whilst KDE is running.

as for the patch procedures you guys suggested, i'm actually looking for a 
way to do it without using the ports system at all. the problem is that 
kdebase takes so long to build, and as we have already discussed i  can't 
run it whilst running KDE, and it's a rare occassion that i can afford to be 
without my PC for that long, and there is no individual port for Kate.

the patch i've received is about 10 lines of code and the problem that it 
solves is _extremely_ minor, so if there is no way to rebuild Kate without 
rebuilding all of KDEBase, then i probably won't bother :-)

but that was some great info for future reference if ever i want to apply a 
patch locally to verify it before sending it to the port maintainer. thanks 
very much everyone.

cheers
iain

From: Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Iain Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Updating source code manually
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:20:17 -0400

Hello:
  1) i received a small patch for Kate (K Advanced Text Editor)
  from one of the developers, how can i compile this new code into
  the binary?
Once you've confirmed the patch works, _please_ get the
developer's permission and submit it to the port maintainer(s).
You may not be the only one suffering.
  2) this question may be answered by any information provided in
  answer to my first question, but how can i upgrade specific
  components of KDE (such as Kate) without upgrading the entire KDE
  installation (which takes a couple of days)
For something as complex as KDE, a proper upgrade will almost
always drag along new versions of infrastructure.
  3) Is it safe to do a portupgrade of KDE whilst KDE is still
  running?
It will probably not be lethal, but it is not safe computing
practice.
During execution, many programs and shared libraries leave most
of the read-only portion of code on disk and reload it when needed.
Let's say KDE uses libfoo.1.5.so, which is actually v1.5.7.
You upgrade something, which upgrades libfoo.1.5.so to v1.5.8.  The
kernel (unaware of the change) reloads part of the file and restarts
execution at a particular address.  Will that address valid code?
Maybe.  But if it isn't the shared library will crash, likely
taking KDE with it.  Even if it _is_ valid code, it may not be
compatible with the old version.  Best case, the program crashes.
Worst case, ongoing and invisible data corruption with no hint of
cause.
The reality is people (including me) do it.  If you choose to
do so, know the risks.
Robert Huff

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Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Rob
Hi,
By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
timer jumps to zero again.
497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
not allow this?
Just wondering.
Regards,
Rob.
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Linux Mozilla and Java Error?

2004-06-28 Thread Henrik Hudson
Hey List-

I'm trying to get linux Mozilla to work the linux Java SDK. Linux Mozilla 
itself works fine and have Flash plugins working, but when I symlink to the 
Java JRE (the ns610-gcc3.2 one) I get an error on starting Mozilla.

[libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]

Now indeed, said file is no where to be found on the system. Am I missing a 
port / package? Do I need a RPM from somewhere?

System Info:
4.10 REL
linux-base (rh 7) and various other dependent rpm are installed.

Both Moz and Linux Moz work just fine, I would just like to have the Java 
applets for the occasional foray onto Yahoo games :)  I could just compile 
the native Java..but thought if I'm having the problem, so might others and 
see if we can fix it.

Thanks list.

Henrik
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Re: HPA LCD for X?

2004-06-28 Thread Andy Harrison
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:42:24 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Fellow BSDers,
 
 A friend here in Seattle offered to sell his IBM laptop
 for $100.  It needs a new CDROM drive and I don't think it
 has a NIC.  I've been poking around the web and found that
 ebay has several Thinkpad 1400s.
 
 i'M planning on using the 'festival' text-to-speech
 synthesizer.  Having X would be  a plus, not a necessity.
 One of the Thinkpad-1400s says its screen is HPA LCD.
 
 Two questions:  does X11 4.x work with this type of display?
 Also: are there any other (low-cost/used) laptops worth
 considering?  I do like that stick  mouse gadget.
 
 feedback?
 
 thanks,
 
 gary
 
 PS: This latop will have limited used, not heavy, daily
 pounding.
 
 

I had a Thinkpad 600e (366mhz) for quite a while.  Loaded up with
296MB of RAM it was actually quite functional.  Although it had a
crappy sound card, it worked without any headaches.  I did an ftp
install, too, so you wouldn't even need the cd to at least get up and
running, as long as it has the floppy.


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sysinstall in a jail

2004-06-28 Thread Frederick N. Brier
I am running into a problem installing packages via sysinstall within a 
jail using the CD media.  I did a minimal install, but added the 
/usr/src directory.  I followed the directions to setup a jail and 
copied /stand/sysinstall into the jail subdirectory.  As per the 
directions, I then started up the jail and ran sysinstall.  But when I 
attempt to install off of the cdrom media, I get the following error: 
Error mounting /dev/acdoc on /dist: Operation not permitted (1).  Now 
it makes sense that a jail might not be allowed to mount a system 
device.  My confusion is that these were the instructions and I have not 
seen any posts saying this is a problem.  Is there a way to give the 
jail permission to access the CD device?  Should I mount the CD from the 
host (outside the jail) but to a subdirectory the jail has access to? 
Such as /usr/jail/myjail/dist?  Versus /dist?  Thank you for any 
suggestions.

Frederick N. Brier
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ipfw help needed

2004-06-28 Thread Incoming Mail List

I'm having a problem with the logic of ipfw-2 on 5.2.1.  I have a 4 port
NIC (de0, de1, de2, de3) and separate networks on each port.  All routing
is working fine and trying to work with dynamic rules but not getting
the results I'm expecting.

For simplicity, I am only working with two of the ports to keep the
ruleset reasonable.
de1 - 192.168.1.0 network
de3 - 192.168.3.0 network

I have the following ruleset:

01600 skipto 4000 ip from any to any via de1
01800 skipto 8000 ip from any to any via de3
04000 deny ip from any to 192.168.1.1 dst-port 80
04100 allow ip from any to any in via de1
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Re: fetchmail question

2004-06-28 Thread Bikrant Neupane

I have put following content in my fetchmailrc.

poll pop.wlink.com.np localdomains wlink.com.np:
               protocol pop3 user bikrant with pass xxx to samit xyz test 
bikrant here

Now it is working fine :)


regards,
Bikrant


On Sunday 27 June 2004 19:45, Gautam Gopalakrishnan wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:02:57 +0545, Bikrant Neupane

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  Sorry.. I mentioned the wrong header :(
  Indeed the hearder was added by sendmail.
 
  This is the one added by fetchmail
 
  Received: from pop2.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.43]
  by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0)
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:32:39 +0545
  (NPT)

 Hello! Would you mind posting your .fetchmailrc here?
 I think it should have a user1 there is user2 here clause.

 poll server.host with proto POP3
 user 'remoteuser' there is 'localuser' here options flush fetchall
 ssl

 So mail for remoteuser gets delivered to localuser.

 Gautam
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a quick mailing list question

2004-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
I've been going though transfering all the freebsd mailing lists I've
subscribe to over to one account... the small problem I ran into is
this, I can send emails from this new account fine, but for some
reason if I send something to a list, it does not appear to show up...
I niether recieve it nor does it show up in the archive...

I noticed this when I tried to send out a email regarding drawing
tablets and suggestions, but I can't verify it ever working... this
was cross posted to hardware and x11 due to it's nature... was cross
posting something like that uber stupid to do and resulting in me
being blackholed or the like?

any ideas on what is happening?

-VV
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Re: Devil Mascot

2004-06-28 Thread Richard Caley
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kai Grossjohann (kg) writes:

kg Software is written for users, isn't it?

From observation I would say that most software is written against
users. 

As for FBSD, I hope it is being written for the enjoyment of those
writing it, since that is the best insurance that it will keep being
written. 


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Re: can't mount 300G USB drive that's FAT32

2004-06-28 Thread Hendrik Hasenbein
Bill Moran wrote:
Dan Finn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FAT32 wasn't my choice.  They needed to be writen to by a linux server
but they want to be able to take these and just plug them into a
windows server if need be.  We knew that linux writing ntfs wasn't a
good choice so we decided on FAT32.  Is there a better solution?

Unfortunately, none that I know of.  If you want to maintain Windows
support, you're pretty much stuck with either NTFS or FAT, as Windows
is pretty stupid and doesn't understand many filesystems.
There was a windows driver for ufs, but I don't know if it has been 
ported to newer windows versions. Perhaps google can help.

Otherwise, you could use UFS or ext2, which work on both FreeBSD and
Linux.

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:17:50 -0700, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 25 June 2004 02:11 pm, Bill Moran wrote:
[I copied Tom on this because I know he was working on FAT filesystem
code at some point ... Don't know if he's still trying to do anything
there or not.]
Dan Finn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the system sees the disk:
Jun 24 15:37:30 stewie kernel: umass0: Maxtor OneTouch, rev
2.00/2.00, addr 2 Jun 24 15:37:30 stewie kernel: umass0: Get Max
Lun not supported (STALLED) Jun 24 15:37:31 stewie kernel: GEOM:
create disk da0 dp=0xc2d85050 Jun 24 15:37:31 stewie kernel: da0 at
umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jun 24 15:37:31 stewie kernel: da0:
Maxtor OneTouch 0201 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
Jun 24 15:37:31 stewie kernel: da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
Jun 24 15:37:31 stewie kernel: da0: 286103MB (585938944 512 byte
sectors: 255H 63S/T 36473C)
this is a Maxtor 300G USB drive.  A backup was written to it via a
linux 2.4 server and now I would like to mount it on my FBSD laptop
to read it and work with the files.
When trying to mount it using mount_msdos I get the following:
[ root @ stewie : ~] : mount_msdosfs -o rw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb1/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument
and in /var/log/messages I get the following:
Jun 24 15:43:52 stewie kernel: mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry
The source tells the story:
From msdosfs_vfsops.c
...
/*
* We cannot deal currently with this size of disk
* due to fileid limitations (see msdosfs_getattr and
* msdosfs_readdir)
*/
...
This section of code exists even in -CURRENT, so it has not
yet been improved in FreeBSD.

when trying to use ntfs to mount it I get :
[ root @ stewie : ~] : mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb1/
mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument
and nothing in any log file.
Don't know what's going on there.

One of the taks I need to accomplish here is to copy all of the
data on this 300G USB drive onto an identical 300G USB drive.  I
was going to mount both and just copy from one to the other.  After
reading about the limited writing capabilities in the man page of
mount_ntfs I'm wondering if I would be better off doing this on a
linux box.
If you just need to copy the identical drives, you could ignore the 
filesystem and make a raw copy.

If you ask me, you'd be better off using UFS, which doesn't have any
of the weirdnesses or limitations of FAT _or_ NTFS.

The
linux box that created the origional backup onto the USB drive had
no problem creating the Fat32 filesystem and writing to it.
Horay for Linux.
If you really need to put FAT filesystems on these drives, you're not
going to be able to use FreeBSD until the limitation is fixed.
The other thing is that the cluster size must be huge. Fat32 was
supposed to start being inefficient around 8GB and this is well beyond
that :).
Kent

You should file a PR on this ... it doesn't appear as if one is
currently open that addresses this issue:
http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html
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ISP Connection problem - ADSL

2004-06-28 Thread Bryce
Hi,

Im a freeBSD newbie  have been struggling for some
time to get my adsl connection working on Freebsd
5.2.1 Release. I've tried many suggested
configurations for /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, and /etc/rc.conf
 read relevant chapters from 'Complete FreeBSD'  the
handbook, but my connection still dies before reaching
the LCP phase. 

Im using an Alcatel Speedtouch 530 Modem connected to
Ethernet. My ADSL connection is fine in Windoze
however the configuration for the modem is usually set
through a web-browser. Do the modem settings(done via
browser) affect the connection in FBSD or does the
system simply take the settings from ppp.conf etc? Im
somewhat confused on this point. I can ping the modem
at 10.0.0.138 and can open the web interface in X.

The log reads:

Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase: bundle:
Establish 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: closed - opening 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: List of
netgraph node ``sis0:'' (id 1) hooks: 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:   Found
orphans - ethernet 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:
Connecting netgraph socket .:tun1 - [3]::tun1 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Sending
PPPOE_CONNECT to .:tun1 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Found
the following interfaces: 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
1, name sis0 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
2, name lp0 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
3, name lo0 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
4, name tun0 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
5, name tun1 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: Connected! 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: opening - dial 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Chat: deflink:
Dial attempt 1 of 1 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: dial - carrier 
Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Waiting
for carrier 
Jun 25 20:00:30 brycepc last message repeated 4 times
Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: Disconnected! 
Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: carrier - hangup 
Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:
deflink: Close 
Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: Connect time: 5 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets
out 
Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
deflink: 0 packets in, 0 packets out 

Any help is greatly appreciated I really would like to
end my reliance on M$ and get going with BSD :)

Bryce



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Error in mjpegtools compile

2004-06-28 Thread Erik Mossberg
Hello,
When I try to build mjpegtools 1.6.2 from ports, compile fails with this 
error:

cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../utils -I/usr/local/include 
-D_THREAD_SAFE -mcpu=i686 -march=i386 -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops 
-ffast-math -march=pentium4 -pthread -Wall -Wunused -MT quantize_x86.lo 
-MD -MP -MF .deps/quantize_x86.Tpo -c quantize_x86.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
.libs/quantize_x86.o
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:67: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
{standard input}:69: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
{standard input}:77: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
{standard input}:223: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
{standard input}:225: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
{standard input}:233: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd'
gmake[2]: *** [quantize_x86.lo] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/multimedia/mjpegtools/work/mjpegtools-1.6.2/mpeg2enc'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/multimedia/mjpegtools/work/mjpegtools-1.6.2'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mjpegtools.
My make.conf looks like this:
CPUTYPE=p4
CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
And i'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8, gcc 3.3.3 I think.
Any idea how to go get this working?
Sincerely,
Erik
P.S. I'm not a subscriber of this list, so please CC me in reply.
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help please? corrupted hard disc - invalid super block.

2004-06-28 Thread Rob
Hi!
I have a hard disc that I think must have been set up wrong initially...
It was however working fine, but at some point filled up to capacity, 
wherapon the next reboot it failed to mount.

System is 4.8-RELEASE, Generic Kernel.
Currently the disc shows:
luggage# mount -r /dev/ad5s1e /mnt
mount: /dev/ad5s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block
luggage# disklabel -r ad5
# /dev/ad5c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad5s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 14593
sectors/unit: 234441585
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 2344364820unused0 0# (Cyl.0 - 14592*)
  e: 23443648204.2BSD16384 16384   300  # (Cyl.0 - 14592*)
Warning, partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
utilities

luggage# fsck /dev/ad5s1e
Can't open /dev/ad5s1e: Invalid argument
luggage# fsck -b 32 /dev/ad5s1e
Alternate super block location: 32
Can't open /dev/ad5s1e: Invalid argument
luggage# file -s /dev/ad5s1e
/dev/ad5s1e: can't read `/dev/ad5s1e' (Invalid argument).

At this point I am stuck ... most of the Invalid Super Block messages I 
can find when searching relate to cd-roms.

If I could mount the disc even read-only, I could copy the data off.
Can anybody give me any clues on where to go from here?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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m0n0BSD: IPSec configuration

2004-06-28 Thread Andy Holyer
I'm playing with m0n0BSD on Soekris boards, FreeBSD Stable 4.10.
I need to get an IPSec tunnel up to allow us to connect to legacy 
systems which use IPSec connection (and which we can't do much with.

The various web resources seem confusing on this - different pages 
mention different interfaces, and on m0n0BSD I'm limited to the tools 
which were installed at burn time.

m0n0wall provides IPSec, so this must be a routine operation. I just 
need to work out exactly what incantation I need to use.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
---
Andy Holyer, Technical stuff
Hedgehog Broadband, 11 Marlborough Place Brighton BN1 1UB
08451 260895 x 241
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FreeBSD 4.10r Installation trouble on Intel ICH-5R system.

2004-06-28 Thread pr0vider
Hello!

I've tried to install FreeBSD 4.10 on Supermicro P4SCE System with 2 SATA HDD's on 
onboard Intel's ICH-5R SATA RAID Controller. There is a trouble with HDD detection if 
ICH set to RAID mode. In IDE mode - there are no problems and Hdd's correctly detected 
as /dev/ad4 and dev/ad6. The question is: are there any ways to use FreeBSD on such 
configuraion with RAID 1 mode.
Thankx for your answers!

P.S. I've tried 5.2.1r - but in RAID mode even Bootloader traps to debug screen and 
there is no boot at all.

SY, Ivan A. Godovikov aka pr0vider
System Administrator, INEOS RAS
Vavilova str. 28, MSK, RU.
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Re: cue images

2004-06-28 Thread artifex
Is there any program that runs on fbsd that allows burning cue
files? I did not find anything about it on the burncd man page.
.bin/.cue files are not standard. Use ports/sysutils/bchunk to 
convert
them to a standard ISO image.
Actually, bin/cue is pretty much standard (at least in the win32 
world),
and sysutils/cdrdao can burn those without any problem.
What international standard describes their format?
Windows is not a standard.
Where are the international standard that describe the ISO file (not 
the filesystem!) format?
How do you convert music disc image to iso format?
BTW, the non-standard cdrdao do the job fine.

bye,
artifex
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Re: IP alias + NAT through a single NIC?

2004-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Romain Kang wrote:
I have a single physical network with 2 disjoint address spaces in
it.  Logical Net 1 is routable, while Logical Net 2 is in private
space intended to keep devices there safe from the outside.  Now I
need to allow some Net 2 devices the capability to access the web,
and putting in a second physical net is impractical.
Can a FreeBSD box with just one NIC on the physical net be used as
the router between the logical nets?
Yes, although using one NIC compromises security a great deal compared with 
having two physical subnets seperated by a packet-filtering firewall.

Set up an interface alias via ifconfig to go on the second network, enable 
ipforwarding and presumably NAT.

If so, could it be used to limit outside access from Net 2 by hardware address?
All outside traffic is going to go through the machine used as a router and 
acquire it's hardware address.  If you have another router on net 1, blocking 
packets from that MAC on all of the hosts on net 2 would be useful, but you'd 
have to do it for each client machine, not just on this FreeBSD box itself.

Or is there a proxy that would work for this configuration?
Running a proxy server on the FreeBSD box is more secure than providing 
routing and NAT for the machines on net 2.  squid works fine for this.

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status of porting pf and spamd from OpenBSD to FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Jay Moore
I heard some time ago that work was going on to port pf (and spamd, I think) 
from OpenBSD to FreeBSD. I also recently saw an announcement on the FreeBSD 
home page that Daniel Hartmeier had joined the FreeBSD team as a committer - 
a further indication that this work is underway.

I'm just curious to know the status of this effort, and any specifics on how 
or when this will be done.

Thanks,
Jay 
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Re: what types of network cards work with thinkpads?

2004-06-28 Thread Steve Bertrand

   Well, I'm seeing some promising thinkpads over on ebay.
   Some with 10/100 netword card, most without.  Cann nybody
   clue me in on what types of laptop NICs work with FBSD?

My TP R30 has an Intel NIC, picked up by FreeBSD with the fxp driver.
Never had any problems...

Steve


   thanks muchly,

   gary


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calculating/timing dump/restore

2004-06-28 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Hi all, 

I would like to time a dump/restore operation without actually 

sitting next to my box with a stopwatch. Specifically restore as 

dump already indicates the time it took. Can anybody help me out here?

 

Thanks, 

Ruben 

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Re: dhclient with reconfigured SSID

2004-06-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik


On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote:

 Why idea how I can preconfigure an SSID for dhclient ?

Just use
ifconfig wi0 ssid FOO

to lock it.

Dw.
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Re: what types of network cards work with thinkpads?

2004-06-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
   Well, I'm seeing some promising thinkpads over on ebay.
   Some with 10/100 netword card, most without.  Cann nybody
   clue me in on what types of laptop NICs work with FBSD?

Go to:  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html
for V 4.10 on i386
or: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/hardware.html
for 5.2.1 on i386

Basically, just go to the FreeBSD web page, pick your version 
and look it up.

jerry

 
   thanks muchly,
 
   gary
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firewall for web server

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
Hello,

Do you know some good tutorial for bulding firewall for FreeBSD as web
server. I found a lot of tutorials but for FreeBSD as router.
Some commented premade script with comments will also do the job.
I was plannding to use APF, but I am afarid to install it on FreeBSD
without good tutorial.
Please advise.

Best regards,

Peter
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Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote:

 So far my athlon 64 3200+ has been one of the coolest running
 processors I've ever owned... although I've never used it in a laptop,
 my friend's p4 2.8 is running a lot hotter...

Yes, current AMD64 CPUs are fairly lower power even without the
low-power models.  We're seeing 1U dual Opteron boxes running at less
then 100F under load.

-- Brooks

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Re: voodoo 2

2004-06-28 Thread platanthera
On Saturday 26 June 2004 20:34, arden wrote:
 hi all

 I've been trying to re-use some old pcs i have kicking around i
 really amazed at how much you can do with a k6/2 400 if you tweak it
 right


 one of these pcs has an 16 meg voodoo 2 card is it possible to use
 the 3d functions of this card in bsd ?

 been looking around without much luck

 arden

hi arden,

looks like there's no dri support for voodoo2
see http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/3dfx

don't know if it's possible to get glide2 working.. years ago i used a 
voodoo3 card + linux-2.2.x + XFree-3.x + glide2 to play terminus

best regards
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Re: Unable to boot FreeBSD (dual-boot)

2004-06-28 Thread Gautam Gopalakrishnan
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:57:42 +0300, Dancho Penev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 12:25:24AM +1000, Gautam Gopalakrishnan wrote:
  For label use /boot/boot file, /boot/boot0 is for mbr.
 
  
  /hd is the temporary directory I created to mount /dev/ad0s2a,
  so I guess my slice is still ok.
 
 Does not help!  I even tried disklabel -B /dev/ad0s2 because a
 diff between /hd/boot/boot and /boot/boot on the fixit yielded
 nothing.
 
 # disklabel /dev/ad0s2
 lists the various partitions properly.
 
 I do have an MBR because I get a boot menu. Just can't get the
 MBR to talk to boot1 and boot2...
 
 If you can remember what were you did to broke configuration it will be
 very helpful. At this point I can't say anything else. Sorry.

I think I did boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0s2 or maybe ad0 instead. Wish I
could remember what I did exactly. Don't even remember why I did it.
Was that helpful? :-)

Gautam
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Re: ISP Connection problem - ADSL

2004-06-28 Thread Steve Bertrand

 Im using an Alcatel Speedtouch 530 Modem connected to
 Ethernet. My ADSL connection is fine in Windoze
 however the configuration for the modem is usually set
 through a web-browser. Do the modem settings(done via
 browser) affect the connection in FBSD or does the
 system simply take the settings from ppp.conf etc? Im
 somewhat confused on this point. I can ping the modem
 at 10.0.0.138 and can open the web interface in X.

Do you have this modem set up to do the PPPoE dialing for you? In Windows,
do you have to use any software to connect, or is the connection made
automatically. It appears you have your modem set up in routing mode,
which means the modem most likely does the authentication to your ISP for
you.

I have a strong suspicion that you do not even need to use ppp on the
FreeBSD box.

If your modem contains the login info for the ISP, just set up your
/etc/rc.conf file with the following:

ifconfig_nic=DHCP

and then run:

# /etc/netstart

You *should* get your info from the router (modem) and should be up and
surfing.

If that doesn't work, provide more info on your setup, including the
output of 'ipconfig' on the windows machine.

Steve



 The log reads:

 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase: bundle:
 Establish
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: closed - opening
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: List of
 netgraph node ``sis0:'' (id 1) hooks:
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:   Found
 orphans - ethernet
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:
 Connecting netgraph socket .:tun1 - [3]::tun1
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Sending
 PPPOE_CONNECT to .:tun1
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Found
 the following interfaces:
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
 1, name sis0
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
 2, name lp0
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
 3, name lo0
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
 4, name tun0
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:  Index
 5, name tun1
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: Connected!
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: opening - dial
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Chat: deflink:
 Dial attempt 1 of 1
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: dial - carrier
 Jun 25 20:00:26 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug: Waiting
 for carrier
 Jun 25 20:00:30 brycepc last message repeated 4 times
 Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: Disconnected!
 Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: carrier - hangup
 Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Debug:
 deflink: Close
 Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: Connect time: 5 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets
 out
 Jun 25 20:00:31 brycepc ppp[801]: tun1: Phase:
 deflink: 0 packets in, 0 packets out

 Any help is greatly appreciated I really would like to
 end my reliance on M$ and get going with BSD :)

 Bryce



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Re: Updating source code manually

2004-06-28 Thread Sergey Zaharchenko
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 06:05:40AM +0500,
 Iain Dooley probably wrote:
 thanks all for your suggestions. i'll refrain from running the portupgrade 
 on KDE whilst KDE is running.
 
 as for the patch procedures you guys suggested, i'm actually looking for a 
 way to do it without using the ports system at all. the problem is that 
 kdebase takes so long to build, and as we have already discussed i  can't 
 run it whilst running KDE, and it's a rare occassion that i can afford to 
 be without my PC for that long, and there is no individual port for Kate.

Just a minute. You shouldn't portupgrade KDE when KDE is running, but
you should be able to run `make' to build everything while KDE is
running, shut down KDE and `portupgrade -w' afterwards (which will use
the binaries built by `make' and install them, taking seriously less
time than the original `make') and restart KDE. At least that's how it
would with an ordinary port.

So if your only problem is that you can't use the thing without KDE,
then this approach should solve the problem (use nice(1) to change the
make's priority so that the box is really usable).

 the patch i've received is about 10 lines of code and the problem that it 
 solves is _extremely_ minor, so if there is no way to rebuild Kate without 
 rebuilding all of KDEBase, then i probably won't bother :-)
 

HTH anyway,

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If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people
he gave it to.
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Compaq EVO wont boot at 5.2.1 CDROM

2004-06-28 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hi
I am unable to install the 5.2.1 on a Compaq EVO
When I bootup with the CDROM it starts then crash
with some various hexadec characters then the following
message
BTX halted
thanks for any infos
--
Cordialement,
Frank Bonnet
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firewall for web server

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
Hello,

Do you know some good tutorial for bulding firewall for FreeBSD as web
server. I found a lot of tutorials but for FreeBSD as router.
Some commented premade script with comments will also do the job.
I was plannding to use APF, but I am afarid to install it on FreeBSD
without good tutorial.
Please advise.

Best regards,

Peter


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Re: Problem restarts

2004-06-28 Thread Bill Moran
Mark Terribile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a problem with spontaneous restarts.  This isn't a new problem,
 but I've done the obvious things and the problem hasn't gone away.  I
 was thinking of asking on -hackers, but I'm trying here first.
 
 The system is a 4.8 with a mix of patches and port upgrades of various
 ages.  I'm planning to rebuild the whole thing, bringing it up to date,
 but I'm hoping to be able to wait for a 5.x in STABLE; I don't want to do
 this twice, since I expect I'll have to dump and restore everything.
 
 The hardware is a 2.6 GHz P4 with 2 GByte of GEIL dual-channel memory.
 (The problem existed on the previous, somewhat slower, memory as well.)
 The box contains the processor and motherboard (Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394),
 two floppy drives, CD and CD/W drives, an HP DAT, three IBM/Hitachi
 36G/10K SCSI drives, and one 120G IDE.  The SCSI card is by Adaptec; the
 video card is a low-end NVidia, and I'm running their video driver.  The
 PS is an Antec True380, which should be enough for the box, with something
 to spare.  There are several extra, large fans, of which more later.
 
 The system, monitor, printer, and cable modem are all powered through an
 APC BACK-UPS 450, about 18 months old.  It's shown in the last week that
 it can keep things up for more than an hour.
 
 The symptom is a restart that leaves no indication of how it happened.
 
   Recently, the system shut down (completely, and at the power supply)
   instead of restarting.  In that case, the last deliberate shutdown
   was a `shutdown -h now'; it appears that in every other case, the last
   deliberate shutdown was a `-r now'.  (Question: does the machine
   architecture have settings for reset-resume .vs. reset-halt, settings
   that might be remembered when a later action occurs?)  It has
   subsequently shut down with an immediate restart.
 
 There are no failure indications in the /var/log/messages, nor reported
 by dmesg.  (The console scrolls by very quickly.)  The message sequence
 over the restart typically looks like this:
 
 ===
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:44
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:57 on em0
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:57
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:44 on em0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Network Number: 24.228.64.0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 255.255.255.255
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,
 198
 9, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 
 
 The restart most often occurs AFTER X has been shut down (and often
 restarted) but sometimes when X has not been run.  It most often occurs
 when the system is under heavy CPU load, but sometimes when the load
 has been light.
 
 I thought at one time it might be a thermal problem and undertook to
 fix that.  (I am still working to get more cooling air over the disks.)
 Right now, I have 120 mm fans rated at 130-135 CFM (Panaflow and JMC)
 pushing air in and out of the box, and pressurizing a duct feeding the
 CPU cooler, which is now cool to the touch.  The memory modules are cool
 to the touch.  While the disks need a proper plenum to route more air
 over them, I no longer believe that there is a thermal problem.  The
 vid card's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch; the
 northbridge's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch.
 
 (Some people commute to white-collar jobs in heavy pickups; I drive a
 small server as my PC.  No chrome pipes.)
 
 So: what should I do next?  Should I set the system up to go to the
 kernel debugger on panic, or even start it via the kernel debugger?
 (Where is the full documentation?)  Should I shell out for an even
 bigger power supply?  Is there another log that I should examine?
 A restart wire that I should check?  A power bus I should scope?
 (I'll have to borrow a scope somewhere.)  Is it time for an exorcist?

I would look at the hardware, but not arbitrarily.  Try running programs
like memtest86 and cpuburn for extended periods of time to see if they
trigger the reboot.  The randomness of the problem seems to suggest a
hardware problem.

You may want to hire the exorcist ... hardware problems can be a PITA
to track down.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: status of porting pf and spamd from OpenBSD to FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 28 June 2004 01:36 am, Jay Moore wrote:
 I heard some time ago that work was going on to port pf (and spamd, I
 think) from OpenBSD to FreeBSD. I also recently saw an announcement
 on the FreeBSD home page that Daniel Hartmeier had joined the FreeBSD
 team as a committer - a further indication that this work is
 underway.

 I'm just curious to know the status of this effort, and any specifics
 on how or when this will be done.

 Thanks,
 Jay

You can lookup ports here:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

I searched for 'pf' and found this among the results:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/security/pf/pkg-descr

Is this what you're looking for?

Best regards,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Problem restarts

2004-06-28 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Sun, 2004-06-27 at 19:44, Mark Terribile wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a problem with spontaneous restarts.  This isn't a new problem,
 but I've done the obvious things and the problem hasn't gone away.  I
 was thinking of asking on -hackers, but I'm trying here first.
 
 The system is a 4.8 with a mix of patches and port upgrades of various
 ages.  I'm planning to rebuild the whole thing, bringing it up to date,
 but I'm hoping to be able to wait for a 5.x in STABLE; I don't want to do
 this twice, since I expect I'll have to dump and restore everything.
 
 The hardware is a 2.6 GHz P4 with 2 GByte of GEIL dual-channel memory.
 (The problem existed on the previous, somewhat slower, memory as well.)
 The box contains the processor and motherboard (Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394),
 two floppy drives, CD and CD/W drives, an HP DAT, three IBM/Hitachi
 36G/10K SCSI drives, and one 120G IDE.  The SCSI card is by Adaptec; the
 video card is a low-end NVidia, and I'm running their video driver.  The
 PS is an Antec True380, which should be enough for the box, with something
 to spare.  There are several extra, large fans, of which more later.
 
 The system, monitor, printer, and cable modem are all powered through an
 APC BACK-UPS 450, about 18 months old.  It's shown in the last week that
 it can keep things up for more than an hour.
 
 The symptom is a restart that leaves no indication of how it happened.
 
   Recently, the system shut down (completely, and at the power supply)
   instead of restarting.  In that case, the last deliberate shutdown
   was a `shutdown -h now'; it appears that in every other case, the last
   deliberate shutdown was a `-r now'.  (Question: does the machine
   architecture have settings for reset-resume .vs. reset-halt, settings
   that might be remembered when a later action occurs?)  It has
   subsequently shut down with an immediate restart.
 
 There are no failure indications in the /var/log/messages, nor reported
 by dmesg.  (The console scrolls by very quickly.)  The message sequence
 over the restart typically looks like this:
 
 ===
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:44
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:57 on em0
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from 00:05:00:e7:17:57
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:44 on em0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Network Number: 24.228.64.0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 255.255.255.255
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,
 198
 9, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 
 
 The restart most often occurs AFTER X has been shut down (and often
 restarted) but sometimes when X has not been run.  It most often occurs
 when the system is under heavy CPU load, but sometimes when the load
 has been light.
 
 I thought at one time it might be a thermal problem and undertook to
 fix that.  (I am still working to get more cooling air over the disks.)
 Right now, I have 120 mm fans rated at 130-135 CFM (Panaflow and JMC)
 pushing air in and out of the box, and pressurizing a duct feeding the
 CPU cooler, which is now cool to the touch.  The memory modules are cool
 to the touch.  While the disks need a proper plenum to route more air
 over them, I no longer believe that there is a thermal problem.  The
 vid card's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch; the
 northbridge's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch.
 
 (Some people commute to white-collar jobs in heavy pickups; I drive a
 small server as my PC.  No chrome pipes.)
 
 So: what should I do next?  Should I set the system up to go to the
 kernel debugger on panic, or even start it via the kernel debugger?
 (Where is the full documentation?)  Should I shell out for an even
 bigger power supply?  Is there another log that I should examine?
 A restart wire that I should check?  A power bus I should scope?
 (I'll have to borrow a scope somewhere.)  Is it time for an exorcist?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Mark Terribile
 
 
Mark

In my  opinion this is a thermal problem. I have seen this before in
some of my systems. Mainly has to do witht he processors not cooling
well enough. Try opening the cases up and leaving the the covers off for
a temp solution. Are you over clocking?

Bruce

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Re: calculating/timing dump/restore

2004-06-28 Thread Alexey Karguine
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:52:50 +0200 Ruben Bloemgarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, 

 I would like to time a dump/restore operation without actually 

 sitting next to my box with a stopwatch. Specifically restore as 

 dump already indicates the time it took. Can anybody help me out here?

You may use `time' command:

   # time dump -args /dev/something

--bm

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Re: mc and kde 3.2

2004-06-28 Thread platanthera
On Monday 28 June 2004 02:55, Javier Ramirez wrote:
 Hi
 I have a question,
 why freebsd 5.2.1 don't have mc ?
 and how adapt kde 3.2 to my freebsd 5.2.1 ?

 regards
 Javier Ramirez

hi Javier,

mc and kde3 are in the ports collection. see chapter 4 of the handbook 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html)  
for help on how to install applications and section 5.7.2 about kde 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html). 

best regards
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Re: Compaq EVO wont boot at 5.2.1 CDROM

2004-06-28 Thread Alexey Karguine
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:47:00 +0200 Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 I am unable to install the 5.2.1 on a Compaq EVO
 When I bootup with the CDROM it starts then crash
 with some various hexadec characters then the following
 message

 BTX halted

 thanks for any infos

Try to turn off ACPI on the start of booting process.

--bm

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Maxim Konovalov
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote:


 Hi,

 By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
 uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
 timer jumps to zero again.

 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !

 Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
 current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
 not allow this?

 Just wondering.

$ uptime
 5:18  up 498 days,  6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06
$ uname -r
4.4-RELEASE

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Ken Smith
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 05:19:10PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote:
  By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
  uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
  timer jumps to zero again.
 
  497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
 
  Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
  current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
  not allow this?
 
  Just wondering.
 
 $ uptime
  5:18ÐÐ  up 498 days,  6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06
 $ uname -r
 4.4-RELEASE

% uptime
 7:25AM  up 932 days,  3:48, 1 user, load averages: 0.47, 0.30, 0.23
% uname -r
4.4-STABLE
%

That said, I'd love to know what limit it was you (original poster)
saw.  Maybe something has crept in between 4.4 and now?

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Re: sysinstall in a jail

2004-06-28 Thread Frederick N. Brier
I do not know whether this is the proper way of doing it, but I mounted 
the CD using

mount -v -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /usr/jail/myjail/dist
Then I went back into the jail'ed environment, started up sysinstall, 
selected Configure/Media, choosing File System, specifying /dist, then 
selecting Packages, and it worked.

Fred.
Frederick N. Brier wrote:
I am running into a problem installing packages via sysinstall within 
a jail using the CD media.  I did a minimal install, but added the 
/usr/src directory.  I followed the directions to setup a jail and 
copied /stand/sysinstall into the jail subdirectory.  As per the 
directions, I then started up the jail and ran sysinstall.  But when I 
attempt to install off of the cdrom media, I get the following error: 
Error mounting /dev/acdoc on /dist: Operation not permitted (1).  
Now it makes sense that a jail might not be allowed to mount a system 
device.  My confusion is that these were the instructions and I have 
not seen any posts saying this is a problem.  Is there a way to give 
the jail permission to access the CD device?  Should I mount the CD 
from the host (outside the jail) but to a subdirectory the jail has 
access to? Such as /usr/jail/myjail/dist?  Versus /dist?  Thank you 
for any suggestions.

Frederick N. Brier
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Re: calculating/timing dump/restore

2004-06-28 Thread David Thakur
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:52:50 +0200, Ruben Bloemgarten
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Try 'man time'. Works like this: 'time command'.

David

 
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to time a dump/restore operation without actually
 
 sitting next to my box with a stopwatch. Specifically restore as
 
 dump already indicates the time it took. Can anybody help me out here?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ruben
 
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FW: help please? corrupted hard disc - invalid super block.

2004-06-28 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten


It looks like you wrote the disklabel for the slice to the disk or
vice-versa. 
If you check /dev there probably isn't a /dev/ad5s* there. Try mounting
/dev/ad5e instead of /dev/ad5s1e. To verify, do a bsdlabel ad5s1 to see if
you have a disklabel for the slice. Otherwise you could :
1.backup you disklabel 
  #bsdlabel /dev/ad5e  PATHdisklabel.BAK
2. write a correct disklabel for /dev/ad5s1
  #bsdlabel -w -B ad5s1
3. Edit your disklabel to be correct :
   a. note the size values of #bsdlabel ad5s1
   b. make another backup of your saved disklabel
   c. edit one of the backups and change the size value 
  to the value you got from #bsdlabel ad5s1
   d. write your edited disklabel to ad5s1
  #bsdlabel -R ad5s1 PATHdisklabel.BAK
  This *should* return no errors.
4. try to mount ad5s1
Now this is all based on them hope that you don't have to erase the
bad/sliceless disklabel on da5.

Good luck,
Ruben   

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Subject: help please? corrupted hard disc - invalid super block.


Hi!

I have a hard disc that I think must have been set up wrong initially...

It was however working fine, but at some point filled up to capacity, 
wherapon the next reboot it failed to mount.

System is 4.8-RELEASE, Generic Kernel.

Currently the disc shows:

luggage# mount -r /dev/ad5s1e /mnt
mount: /dev/ad5s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block

luggage# disklabel -r ad5
# /dev/ad5c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad5s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 14593
sectors/unit: 234441585
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   c: 2344364820unused0 0# (Cyl.0 -
14592*)
   e: 23443648204.2BSD16384 16384   300  # (Cyl.0 -
14592*)
Warning, partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
utilities

luggage# fsck /dev/ad5s1e
Can't open /dev/ad5s1e: Invalid argument

luggage# fsck -b 32 /dev/ad5s1e
Alternate super block location: 32
Can't open /dev/ad5s1e: Invalid argument

luggage# file -s /dev/ad5s1e
/dev/ad5s1e: can't read `/dev/ad5s1e' (Invalid argument).



At this point I am stuck ... most of the Invalid Super Block messages I 
can find when searching relate to cd-roms.

If I could mount the disc even read-only, I could copy the data off.

Can anybody give me any clues on where to go from here?

Thanks in advance,

Rob


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Re: Problem restarts

2004-06-28 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I'm having a problem with spontaneous restarts.  This isn't a new
 problem,
 but I've done the obvious things and the problem hasn't gone away.  I
 was thinking of asking on -hackers, but I'm trying here first.

I have a mail server that is doing this exact thing. Very spontaneous,
more problematic when under heavy load. I tested this theory with
buildworld, and it just barfs.

I have tracked it down to a problem with the power supply. In my case, the
fan is not operating properly (it is moving, but very slowly). I pop the
disk in a new machine and voila...problem fixed.

Just my $.02

sb


 The system is a 4.8 with a mix of patches and port upgrades of various
 ages.  I'm planning to rebuild the whole thing, bringing it up to date,
 but I'm hoping to be able to wait for a 5.x in STABLE; I don't want to
 do
 this twice, since I expect I'll have to dump and restore everything.

 The hardware is a 2.6 GHz P4 with 2 GByte of GEIL dual-channel memory.
 (The problem existed on the previous, somewhat slower, memory as well.)
 The box contains the processor and motherboard (Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394),
 two floppy drives, CD and CD/W drives, an HP DAT, three IBM/Hitachi
 36G/10K SCSI drives, and one 120G IDE.  The SCSI card is by Adaptec; the
 video card is a low-end NVidia, and I'm running their video driver.  The
 PS is an Antec True380, which should be enough for the box, with
 something
 to spare.  There are several extra, large fans, of which more later.

 The system, monitor, printer, and cable modem are all powered through an
 APC BACK-UPS 450, about 18 months old.  It's shown in the last week that
 it can keep things up for more than an hour.

 The symptom is a restart that leaves no indication of how it happened.

   Recently, the system shut down (completely, and at the power supply)
   instead of restarting.  In that case, the last deliberate shutdown
   was a `shutdown -h now'; it appears that in every other case, the last
   deliberate shutdown was a `-r now'.  (Question: does the machine
   architecture have settings for reset-resume .vs. reset-halt, settings
   that might be remembered when a later action occurs?)  It has
   subsequently shut down with an immediate restart.

 There are no failure indications in the /var/log/messages, nor reported
 by dmesg.  (The console scrolls by very quickly.)  The message sequence
 over the restart typically looks like this:

 ===
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from
 00:05:00:e7:17:44
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:57 on em0
 Jun  7 18:39:09 moleend /kernel: arp: 24.228.64.1 moved from
 00:05:00:e7:17:57
 t
 o 00:05:00:e7:17:44 on em0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Network Number: 24.228.64.0
 Jun  7 18:59:06 moleend dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 255.255.255.255
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD
 Project.
 Jun  7 22:47:33 moleend /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
 1988,
 198
 9, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 

 The restart most often occurs AFTER X has been shut down (and often
 restarted) but sometimes when X has not been run.  It most often occurs
 when the system is under heavy CPU load, but sometimes when the load
 has been light.

 I thought at one time it might be a thermal problem and undertook to
 fix that.  (I am still working to get more cooling air over the disks.)
 Right now, I have 120 mm fans rated at 130-135 CFM (Panaflow and JMC)
 pushing air in and out of the box, and pressurizing a duct feeding the
 CPU cooler, which is now cool to the touch.  The memory modules are cool
 to the touch.  While the disks need a proper plenum to route more air
 over them, I no longer believe that there is a thermal problem.  The
 vid card's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch; the
 northbridge's fan-blown heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch.

 (Some people commute to white-collar jobs in heavy pickups; I drive a
 small server as my PC.  No chrome pipes.)

 So: what should I do next?  Should I set the system up to go to the
 kernel debugger on panic, or even start it via the kernel debugger?
 (Where is the full documentation?)  Should I shell out for an even
 bigger power supply?  Is there another log that I should examine?
 A restart wire that I should check?  A power bus I should scope?
 (I'll have to borrow a scope somewhere.)  Is it time for an exorcist?

 Thanks for your help.

 Mark Terribile


 Mark

 In my  opinion this is a thermal problem. I have seen this before in
 some of my systems. Mainly has to do witht he processors not cooling
 well enough. Try opening the cases up and leaving the the covers off for
 a temp solution. Are you over clocking?

 Bruce

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Michael W. Lucas

Hi,

This tickles something in the back of my memory.

You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
Netcraft-style, are you?

IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
unaffected.

==ml

On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:39:30PM +0900, Rob wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
 uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
 timer jumps to zero again.
 
 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
 
 Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
 current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
 not allow this?
 
 Just wondering.
 
 Regards,
 Rob.
 
 
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Re: cue images

2004-06-28 Thread Sergey Zaharchenko
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:39:46PM +0200,
 artifex probably wrote:

 Where are the international standard that describe the ISO file (not 
 the filesystem!) format?

\From the mount_cd9660 manpage

 MOUNT_CD9660(8)  FreeBSD System Manager's Manual MOUNT_CD9660(8)
 NAME
  mount_cd9660 - mount an ISO-9660 file system

So it's ISO 9660. ISO stands for International Standards Organization
AFAICT. As for `where', use Google.

 BTW, the non-standard cdrdao do the job fine.

I think that if the developer of the Windows program which
uses/generates the `.cue' files would hear that, he would change the
format just so that you couldn't use free tools and were forced to
purchase his program. Just kidding, but doesn't it remind you of
anything?

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Re: ISP Connection problem - ADSL

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Bryce wrote:
Hi,
Im a freeBSD newbie  have been struggling for some
time to get my adsl connection working on Freebsd
5.2.1 Release. I've tried many suggested
configurations for /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, and /etc/rc.conf
 read relevant chapters from 'Complete FreeBSD'  the
handbook, but my connection still dies before reaching
the LCP phase.
Im using an Alcatel Speedtouch 530 Modem connected to
Ethernet. My ADSL connection is fine in Windoze
however the configuration for the modem is usually set
through a web-browser. Do the modem settings(done via
browser) affect the connection in FBSD or does the
system simply take the settings from ppp.conf etc? Im
somewhat confused on this point. I can ping the modem
at 10.0.0.138 and can open the web interface in X.
I believe your alcatel speedtouch (although I have never
seen one) isn't a modem, but a router. So you don't have
to mess around with ppp . You simply set it as default
gateway and dns server in /stand/sysinstall -- Configure
-- Networking -- Interfaces -- and select you NIC.
Or - if you prefer this - have a look at your Complete
FreeBSD and edit /etc/rc.conf manually.
Greetings,
Uli.
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Datasize change

2004-06-28 Thread Dave Raven
Hi all,
I'm having a problem where I need to allow a proccess to use up to
1.5gig of memory, however its going to be a problem to recompile my kernel.
I know that these options would solve the problem:
options MAXDSIZ = (1536 * 1024 * 1024)
options DFLDSIZ = (1536 * 1024 * 1024)

However, I'm wondering if there is a way to do it with login.conf (limits) -
here you can see the limits when datasize is unspecified (using kernel
default) - however could I increase it through that mechanism? Or is there
another way I could do this...

Resource limits (current):
  cputime  infinity secs
  filesize infinity kb
  datasize   524288 kb
  stacksize   65536 kb
  coredumpsize infinity kb
  memoryuseinfinity kb
  memorylocked infinity kb
  maxprocesses 7390
  openfiles   32768
  sbsize   infinity bytes
  vmemoryuse   infinity kb

Thanks in advance
Dave

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Re: Hi

2004-06-28 Thread DoMenus
Hello freebsd-questions,

Monday, June 28, 2004, 1:57:16 PM, you wrote:

fqfo I hope the patch works.


yeah! Its works!

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Charlie Schluting
Rob wrote:
Hi,
By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
timer jumps to zero again.
Not here..
 8:00AM  up 1074 days, 11:58, 0 users, load averages: 0.57, 0.26, 0.10
That's on 2.1.0-RELEASE, BTW :)
-Charlie
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Re: Updating source code manually

2004-06-28 Thread Robert Huff

Sergey Zaharchenko writes:

  Just a minute. You shouldn't portupgrade KDE when KDE is running,
  but you should be able to run `make' to build everything while
  KDE is running, shut down KDE and `portupgrade -w' afterwards
  (which will use the binaries built by `make' and install them,
  taking seriously less time than the original `make') and restart
  KDE. At least that's how it would with an ordinary port.

One of the two of us is confused about this.
As I understand it:
A) Running make build but not make install doesn't really
solve the installing while running issue.  Sure, it won't install
for that port, but it will build-and-install for every port upstream
...
B) ... unless you're suggesting starting at the top of the
dependency tree and doing build-but-don't-install by hand for every
component in order.  I consider this severely impractical; it also ...
C) ... won't work with portupgrade unless one uses the w option.

Or have I missed a memo?



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FreeBSD desktop newcomer (Enemy Territory players read) - need minor help

2004-06-28 Thread klr
Hi list,

After sucessfully playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Enemy Territory
on FreeBSD 5.2.1, I decided to switch my workstation to freebsd. I have
large experience on the server side but kinda new to the desktop. Here are
some minor annoyances i'm not being able to solve:

1. I've added a 'paw' menu to access the main menu, but I'd like the
win-key to open this menu. possible?

2. Is there any app like in KDE to update the gnome (2.6.1) menus to
reflect changes in installed applications?


3. Annoyances with enemy territory:

  - The game console isn't bound to \. I have to open it with ~, and the
leading \ won't appear. This makes me send lots of commands to general
chat instead of issuing them, have to remember this all the time. I did
a bind \ toggleconsole, while it will bring console with \ then, it
won't make it vanish. My only clue was it could be a keyboard config
error, so I configured it (using gnome), layout portuguese keyboard,
microsoft natural. it should be working. Also on xchat and such, if I
use any letter with an accent people will see it as a '?'. How do I fix
this behavior ?

  - Im getting some delay switching weapons and shooting. I press mouse1
and about 0.5sec later the weapon will shoot. This should be
instantaneous. I don't have any idea on this one, solutions ?

  - CAPS LOCK key won't work ingame. Works fine on gnome. I need the caps 
  lock key on enemy territory.


Thanks all in advance!
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Re: Intel Ethernet card not being detected

2004-06-28 Thread Richard P. Williamson
At 16:52 25/06/2004. Simon Barner had this to say:
Richard P. Williamson wrote:

[...]

Here another thing you could try: I once had a problem with a 3Com NIC
not being detected properly when the driver was compiled statically into
the kernel.

Removing it and using the module instead made it work...

Nope, still no joy.  However my boot is telling me userland is out of
sync with the kernel now, so I'm not prepared to say it didn't work
yet.

Per the numbers returned by pciconf, this is a 82559 rev 0x8, which
is in the table of supported devices.  According to the code, however,
if the device claims to be 10Mb only, then it isn't even handed to the
miibus code to configure.  I'm still working my way through the code to
determine if the 10Mb-ness is being reported by the devices directly,
or if this is the code's interpretation based on other data requested.

The two additional 82559 rev 0x8s (on the plug-in PCI card)
are correctly being passed to the miibus, and this is annoying.

Thanks for your time in this, anyway.

MfG,
rip

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Rob
Michael W. Lucas wrote:
Hi,
This tickles something in the back of my memory.
You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
Netcraft-style, are you?
IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
unaffected.
Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found
other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way
of measuring up-time?
Rob.
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Re: status of porting pf and spamd from OpenBSD to FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Frank
* On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:36:55AM -0500 Jay Moore wrote:
 I heard some time ago that work was going on to port pf (and spamd, I think) 
 from OpenBSD to FreeBSD. I also recently saw an announcement on the FreeBSD 
 home page that Daniel Hartmeier had joined the FreeBSD team as a committer - 
 a further indication that this work is underway.
 
 I'm just curious to know the status of this effort, and any specifics on how 
 or when this will be done.

There's a mailing list at

http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list.fcgi?list_id=pf4freebsd

that may give you some insight.

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Trying to install Flash... BUT

2004-06-28 Thread Douglas Korinke
S, I am on a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with FBSD 4.9 running KDE 3.1.4 
and attempting to get a Flash plugin working..

So I goto the HowTo at KDE's site at:
http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php

and follow the directions to the line.. but nothing is still going for me.

I decide to try it again a few times and still nothing until a brilliant 
stroke of genius tells me to check my KDE version.. the HowTo calls for KDE-
3.2.3 aduhh, well I finally follow the first step and pkg_delete 3.1.4 and I 
try to install 3.2.3 from the ports collection.

The install finds all the dependencies except for kwalletbackend, then 
attempts to install it when this warning comes up...

Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains known vulnerabilities
Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
*** Error Code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3.
*** Error Code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks a lot,
Doug

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Michael W. Lucas
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 12:40:53AM +0900, Rob wrote:
 Michael W. Lucas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This tickles something in the back of my memory.
 
 You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
 Netcraft-style, are you?
 
 IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
 unaffected.
 
 Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found
 other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way
 of measuring up-time?
 
 Rob.

Yep.

It's a counter that rolls over in the TCP stack.

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Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Your Name
I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's 
nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
have reported general success, but I'm worried that 
I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
every X dependent
port on my system.

Jen

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Chris
On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
 I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
 Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's
 nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
 have reported general success, but I'm worried that
 I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
 something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
 every X dependent
 port on my system.

 Jen

Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to bring all your installed 
ports up to date.

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 28 June 2004 11:15 am, Chris wrote:
 On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
  I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
  Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's
  nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
  have reported general success, but I'm worried that
  I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
  something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
  every X dependent
  port on my system.
 
  Jen

 Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to bring all your
 installed ports up to date.

 --
 Best regards,
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I was unaware that FreeBSD switched to X.org from XFree86.  Did we 
switch or is there name confusion?  Are both offered in the newer 
ports?

Andrew Gould
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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Chris
On Monday 28 June 2004 11:25 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Monday 28 June 2004 11:15 am, Chris wrote:
  On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
   I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
   Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's
   nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
   have reported general success, but I'm worried that
   I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
   something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
   every X dependent
   port on my system.
  
   Jen
 
  Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to bring all your
  installed ports up to date.
 
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  Chris

 I was unaware that FreeBSD switched to X.org from XFree86.  Did we
 switch or is there name confusion?  Are both offered in the newer
 ports?

 Andrew Gould

Hmm, after looking:

/usr/ports/x11/xorg
This is a metaport for all the X.Org packages available in the ports tree.

WWW: http://www.x.org/

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Your Name
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
  I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from
 XFree86.
  Is there any simple guide to how to do this?
 There's
  nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some
 people
  have reported general success, but I'm worried
 that
  I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
  something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
  every X dependent
  port on my system.
 
  Jen
 
 Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to
 bring all your installed 
 ports up to date.

I don't want to be thick, but what are the exact steps
involved in this? My installed ports are already up to
date, Id just want to rebuild the ones that depend on
some version of X. So I guess I'd first install the
xorg meta-port, then delete--what?, to make sure I get
all the XFree86 versions?--and then do what to rebuild
properly everything with depends?

Thanks. I will wait if there is going to be some easy
method in the future.

Jen



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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 28 June 2004 11:30 am, Chris wrote:
 On Monday 28 June 2004 11:25 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
  On Monday 28 June 2004 11:15 am, Chris wrote:
   On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's
nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
have reported general success, but I'm worried that
I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
every X dependent
port on my system.
   
Jen
  
   Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to bring all
   your installed ports up to date.
  
   --
   Best regards,
   Chris
 
  I was unaware that FreeBSD switched to X.org from XFree86.  Did we
  switch or is there name confusion?  Are both offered in the newer
  ports?
 
  Andrew Gould

 Hmm, after looking:

 /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 This is a metaport for all the X.Org packages available in the ports
 tree.

 WWW: http://www.x.org/

 - Eric Anholt
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 Chris

Thanks.  I haven't updated my ports in awhile in order to keep ports in 
sync without a lot of portupgrades.

Have a great day!

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Chris
On Monday 28 June 2004 11:31 am, Your Name wrote:
 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 28 June 2004 11:10 am, Your Name wrote:
   I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from
 
  XFree86.
 
   Is there any simple guide to how to do this?
 
  There's
 
   nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some
 
  people
 
   have reported general success, but I'm worried
 
  that
 
   I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
   something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
   every X dependent
   port on my system.
  
   Jen
 
  Just update your ports tree, and run portupgrade to
  bring all your installed
  ports up to date.

 I don't want to be thick, but what are the exact steps
 involved in this? My installed ports are already up to
 date, Id just want to rebuild the ones that depend on
 some version of X. So I guess I'd first install the
 xorg meta-port, then delete--what?, to make sure I get
 all the XFree86 versions?--and then do what to rebuild
 properly everything with depends?

 Thanks. I will wait if there is going to be some easy
 method in the future.


Well - if I understand this, you want to use X.org in place of XFree86 - if 
this is correct, I would assume you install eht X.org meta-port as you 
mentioned.

I don't know if X.org needs anything from XFree, so I can't answer that. The 
next thing is simply update the ports tree (that inturn updates the X.org 
meta when needed) then run portupgrade after the ports ttree update.

See the man page for portupgrade for the parms you want. I myself use -arR
Once you have run portupgrade, and if by chance the meta-port did get updated, 
portupgrade will bring that up to the current build for FreeBSD.

I may have left out some steps, but this is the jist of it.

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Re: dhclient with reconfigured SSID

2004-06-28 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote:
 

Why idea how I can preconfigure an SSID for dhclient ?
   

Just use
ifconfig wi0 ssid FOO
to lock it.
 

Will this lock the ssid during reboots as well ? If not, that actually 
is what I am looking for.

/Stephan
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Re: dhclient with reconfigured SSID

2004-06-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote:

 Will this lock the ssid during reboots as well ? If not, that actually
 is what I am looking for.

Ah - ok - putting into /etc/r.conf

ifconfig_wi0=ssid foo

will lock it during/after reboots; but kills the DHCP. Options are

-   Do above but add
dhclietn wi0
to your /etc/rc.local

-   Leave ifconfig_wi0=DHCP in rc.conf
and do a 'man dhclient-script' and
accordingly create a

/etc/dhclient-enter-hooks

with the text

#!/bin/sh
ifconfig wi0 ssid f00

add 'if [ x${interface} = xwi0 ]; then' ..'fi'
around it if you want it only to happen for wi0.

What the second option does is run an extra script early in the dhcp
cycle whcih sets your interface to the right ssid.

Dw
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Re: Reinstalling And /usr

2004-06-28 Thread Rishi Chopra
--- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the last episode (Jun 21), Rishi Chopra said:
  What is the effect on the /usr partition when
 reinstalling over an
  installation?
  
  I suffered a kernel panic that wiped my MBR; I'd
 like to simply
  reinstall with the same partition/slice values -
 will my /usr
  partition and the data therein still be accessible
 after
  reinstallation?
 
 Sure, except anything you may have changed in
 /usr/{bin,sbin,share,lib,libexec} will get
 overwritten.  Make sure you
 elect not to newfs any of your filesytems :)  In
 fact, if you know your
 exact mbr info, you should be able to boot the
 install floppy, go to
 the partition editor, set it up, write, reboot, and
 you're done.
 
 -- 
   Dan Nelson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

I certainly appreciate the good advice, but I could
use a little more information.  

I'm not really worried about saving the system and the
MBR, just my /usr/home directory.  Can I install the
system again (from floppies) without the inode chain
getting messed up and the /usr/home directory becoming
invisible?  I would like to know if I can just
reinstall over the original installation much like a
Windows fix; the inode error that I'm getting now
prevents /bin/sh from loading and may have made the
system unsalvageable.

=
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Re: a quick mailing list question

2004-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Vulpes Velox wrote:
I've been going though transfering all the freebsd mailing lists I've
subscribe to over to one account... the small problem I ran into is
this, I can send emails from this new account fine, but for some
reason if I send something to a list, it does not appear to show up...
I niether recieve it nor does it show up in the archive...
This message made it through.  I've seen mailing list lag of up to 48 hours 
from time to time, so there may be some mail getting stuck on a queue for 
whatever reasons.

any ideas on what is happening?
No, although I'd wait a day or so and see whether the messages show up in list 
traffic, or whether you get a bounce.  Also, you might dig up a message-id 
from your Sent messages mbox (if you keep them), and ask 
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there for.  :-)

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Re: Intel Anypoint PCMCIA ethernet card

2004-06-28 Thread Adam Wynne
Is there a way for me to increase the verbosity of pccard's output?  I couldn't
find such an option specific to pccard in LINT.  Would options DIAGNOSTIC do
this for me?

Thanks

--- Adam Wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to get my pcmcia ethernet card working on my laptop.  It is the
 Intel Anypoint card and I know that it uses the wi driver, which is
 compiled
 into my kernel.  I am running 4.10-PRERELEASE.  
 
 I saw on the list that people have gotten this card to work by adding an
 entry
 for it to the /etc/defaults/pccard.conf file.  I tried adding the following
 entry which did not help:
 
 card Intel AnyPoint(TM) Wireless II PC Card
 config  auto wi ?
 insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
 remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop
 
 I know that the system recognizes that a card has been added.  When I insert
 it, the following is reported:
 
 Jun 26 04:33:53 bird /kernel: pccard: card inserted, slot 1
 
 It doesn't mention anything about the card in particluar, which seems weird
 to
 me - I expected it to say that the card was unrecognized or something like
 that.  
 
 I don't know if this helps but I got this card to work on the same laptop
 under
 netbsd according to a doc on the netbsd site.  Doing that required adding
 entries to 2 or 3 kernel files and recompiling.  I tried mimicing that
 procedure but ran into problems since the kernel files are layed out
 differently on freebsd.
 
 Please let me know if you have any ideas.  It is possible that I have
 forgotten
 something obvious.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Adam
 
 
   
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Re: a quick mailing list question

2004-06-28 Thread Peter
I have the same problem !

Best regards,

Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Swiger
To: Vulpes Velox
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: a quick mailing list question


Vulpes Velox wrote:
 I've been going though transfering all the freebsd mailing lists I've
 subscribe to over to one account... the small problem I ran into is
 this, I can send emails from this new account fine, but for some
 reason if I send something to a list, it does not appear to show up...
 I niether recieve it nor does it show up in the archive...

This message made it through.  I've seen mailing list lag of up to 48 hours
from time to time, so there may be some mail getting stuck on a queue for
whatever reasons.

 any ideas on what is happening?

No, although I'd wait a day or so and see whether the messages show up in
list
traffic, or whether you get a bounce.  Also, you might dig up a message-id
from your Sent messages mbox (if you keep them), and ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to look into the matter.  That's what postmasters
are
there for.  :-)

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
 Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's 
 nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
 have reported general success, but I'm worried that 
 I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
 something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
 every X dependent
 port on my system.

build xorg-server, deinstall it, reinstall, it use pkgdb -uF to fix :)

then repeat for what other xorg stuff you want :)

the pkgdb -uF is important... it will go through and update
/var/db/pkg so that all ports recognize using the new xlibs and don't
try to reinstall xfree86...

pkgdb is part of portupgrade
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Re: firewall for web server

2004-06-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
Do you know some good tutorial for bulding firewall for FreeBSD as web
server. I found a lot of tutorials but for FreeBSD as router.
First, are you building a firewall or a web server?
If you're building a firewall, you don't want to run any services like WWW at 
all on the machine.  If you're building a web server, you're probably not 
going to be routing traffic, no-- to corresponds to your second remark.

Some commented premade script with comments will also do the job.
I was plannding to use APF, but I am afarid to install it on FreeBSD
without good tutorial.
APF?
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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Jim Trigg
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:13:53PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
 Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
  Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's 
  nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
  have reported general success, but I'm worried that 
  I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
  something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
  every X dependent
  port on my system.
 
 build xorg-server, deinstall it, reinstall, it use pkgdb -uF to fix :)
 
 then repeat for what other xorg stuff you want :)
 
 the pkgdb -uF is important... it will go through and update
 /var/db/pkg so that all ports recognize using the new xlibs and don't
 try to reinstall xfree86...
 
 pkgdb is part of portupgrade

AFAICT, this won't really do anything -- there does not appear to be a
real way to tell the ports system that you want X ports to depend on xorg
instead of xfree.  Every X port appears to have xfree hardcoded.

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Re: Problem restarts

2004-06-28 Thread User LAFFER1
I had a similar problem with a server recently.  The issue turned out to 
be the NIC/NIC driver.  I changed it over to a 3com and it worked like a 
charm ever since.

I'm also using that power supply in a server.  I've noticed it gets very 
hot under load.  I believe that model only has one fan and is considered a 
desktop silent model.  Its possible that your system config is too much 
for it running 24/7.  Its not the wattage per se, just that its not 
designed for continously use.  My system is only an amd athelon 2000+ with 
512mb ram, 1 7200rpm 40gig maxtor drive and a dvd reader.

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Re: a quick mailing list question

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Peter wrote:
I have the same problem !
Best regards,
As was said before: there seems to be some sort of knot in the 
wires today. One of my messages was several hours on its way.

Uli.
Peter
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Swiger
To: Vulpes Velox
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: a quick mailing list question
Vulpes Velox wrote:
I've been going though transfering all the freebsd mailing lists I've
subscribe to over to one account... the small problem I ran into is
this, I can send emails from this new account fine, but for some
reason if I send something to a list, it does not appear to show up...
I niether recieve it nor does it show up in the archive...
This message made it through.  I've seen mailing list lag of up to 48 hours
from time to time, so there may be some mail getting stuck on a queue for
whatever reasons.
any ideas on what is happening?
No, although I'd wait a day or so and see whether the messages show up in
list
traffic, or whether you get a bounce.  Also, you might dig up a message-id
from your Sent messages mbox (if you keep them), and ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to look into the matter.  That's what postmasters
are
there for.  :-)
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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Chris
On Monday 28 June 2004 12:13 pm, Vulpes Velox wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT)

 Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
  Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's
  nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
  have reported general success, but I'm worried that
  I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
  something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
  every X dependent
  port on my system.

 build xorg-server, deinstall it, reinstall, it use pkgdb -uF to fix :)

 then repeat for what other xorg stuff you want :)

 the pkgdb -uF is important... it will go through and update
 /var/db/pkg so that all ports recognize using the new xlibs and don't
 try to reinstall xfree86...

 pkgdb is part of portupgrade

Indeed - what I have found out - You can't install xorg while XFree resides on 
the same system. It seems you would need to uninstall XFree before installing 
xorg.

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Re: firewall for web server

2004-06-28 Thread Peter
I am budiling a web server.
Since it is ina remote data center wher I do not contrl the router I prefer
I to build firewall on the www server.

APF http://www.rfxnetworks.com/apf.php
very popular firewall in the linux world.

Thanks,

Peter


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From: Chuck Swiger
To: Peter Zyumbilev
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: firewall for web server


Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
 Do you know some good tutorial for bulding firewall for FreeBSD as web
 server. I found a lot of tutorials but for FreeBSD as router.

First, are you building a firewall or a web server?

If you're building a firewall, you don't want to run any services like WWW
at
all on the machine.  If you're building a web server, you're probably not
going to be routing traffic, no-- to corresponds to your second remark.

 Some commented premade script with comments will also do the job.
 I was plannding to use APF, but I am afarid to install it on FreeBSD
 without good tutorial.

APF?

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Re: firewall for web server

2004-06-28 Thread Chris
On Monday 28 June 2004 12:44 pm, Peter wrote:
 I am budiling a web server.
 Since it is ina remote data center wher I do not contrl the router I prefer
 I to build firewall on the www server.

 APF http://www.rfxnetworks.com/apf.php
 very popular firewall in the linux world.

 Thanks,

 Peter

Yes - you can run both the web server and firewall on the same box.
What you need to do is think which you wish to do.

There are good and bad to both IPFW and IPF. I myself, prefer IPFW.

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Re: FreeBSD desktop newcomer (Enemy Territory players read) - need minor help

2004-06-28 Thread Andreas Davour
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list,

 1. I've added a 'paw' menu to access the main menu, but I'd like the
 win-key to open this menu. possible?

Almost anything is possible, if you work hard enough. Please tell us more
about what your environment is before you expect any meaningful answer.
You might want to start checking out xmodmap which is good at remapping
keys.

 3. Annoyances with enemy territory:

Keys: Look above, xmodmap might help.

   - Im getting some delay switching weapons and shooting. I press mouse1
 and about 0.5sec later the weapon will shoot. This should be
 instantaneous. I don't have any idea on this one, solutions ?

Do remember that you are running the Linux version of ET. It is slower
than running native. You are very welcome to try to convince the
developers of Enemy Territory to do a FreeBSD version.

   - CAPS LOCK key won't work ingame. Works fine on gnome. I need the caps
   lock key on enemy territory.

Look to my answer above.

Hope that at least pointed you in the right direction.

/andreas
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Re: Updating source code manually

2004-06-28 Thread Sergey Zaharchenko
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:16:16AM -0400,
 Robert Huff probably wrote:
 
 Sergey Zaharchenko writes:
 
   Just a minute. You shouldn't portupgrade KDE when KDE is running,
   but you should be able to run `make' to build everything while
   KDE is running, shut down KDE and `portupgrade -w' afterwards
   (which will use the binaries built by `make' and install them,
   taking seriously less time than the original `make') and restart
   KDE. At least that's how it would with an ordinary port.
 
   One of the two of us is confused about this.
   As I understand it:

   A) Running make build but not make install doesn't really
 solve the installing while running issue.  Sure, it won't install
 for that port, but it will build-and-install for every port upstream
 ...

I see. You are talking abiout ABI mismatch. I dug up a portion of your
earlier post:

   Let's say KDE uses libfoo.1.5.so, which is actually v1.5.7.
 You upgrade something, which upgrades libfoo.1.5.so to v1.5.8.  The
 kernel (unaware of the change) reloads part of the file and restarts
 execution at a particular address.  Will that address valid code?

When a file is open by a process, even if you unlink it and replace it
with another one, the original file will stay on disk until the last
file handle referencing it is closed. I assume that holds true for
libraries too. So, EXISTING processes aren't screwed. But, when a NEW
process is created, it references the NEW shared library, and if their
ABI's don't match --- BOOM!:) That was just a correction.

I was under the impression that the OP already had KDE (and thus all
`father' ports) installed and up-to-date, and only wanted to patch a
file. That would mean there would be 0 upstream ports rebuilt, or am I
mistaken? Maybe my post looks like stating it's a universal approach. It
isn't. Sorry I didn't mention it.

But if the OP doesn't have KDE up-to-date, he could `downgrade' his
ports tree to match his packages (reducing the problem to the previous
one). Of course that's only possible if the patch applies to the
`downgraded' KDE too. He will still have to build (not-up-to-date) KDE,
but this should escape ABI worries, as in fact no other changes will be
made.

   B) ... unless you're suggesting starting at the top of the
 dependency tree and doing build-but-don't-install by hand for every
 component in order.  I consider this severely impractical; it also ...

The ABI problem isn't solved by your B) approach, which will only build
`father' ports but still install `grandfather' ports.

   C) ... won't work with portupgrade unless one uses the w option.

Please read more carefully. I mentioned '-w'.

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Re: Trying to install Flash... BUT

2004-06-28 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 12:09, Douglas Korinke wrote:
 S, I am on a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with FBSD 4.9 running KDE 3.1.4 
 and attempting to get a Flash plugin working..
 
 So I goto the HowTo at KDE's site at:
 http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php
 
 and follow the directions to the line.. but nothing is still going for me.
 
 I decide to try it again a few times and still nothing until a brilliant 
 stroke of genius tells me to check my KDE version.. the HowTo calls for KDE-
 3.2.3 aduhh, well I finally follow the first step and pkg_delete 3.1.4 and I 
 try to install 3.2.3 from the ports collection.
 
 The install finds all the dependencies except for kwalletbackend, then 
 attempts to install it when this warning comes up...
 
 Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains known vulnerabilities
 Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
 *** Error Code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3.
 *** Error Code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3.
 
 Any ideas or suggestions?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Doug
 
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Its basically saying you need OpenSSL installed before it can install
KDE 3.2.3.

Do this:
#cd /usr/ports
#make search name=openssl | more
find openssl port..
then install it..
then try installing kde again. Should fix the problem.

Bruce

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Re: a quick mailing list question

2004-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:08:31 -0400
Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Vulpes Velox wrote:
  I've been going though transfering all the freebsd mailing lists
  I've subscribe to over to one account... the small problem I ran
  into is this, I can send emails from this new account fine, but
  for some reason if I send something to a list, it does not appear
  to show up... I niether recieve it nor does it show up in the
  archive...
 
 This message made it through.  I've seen mailing list lag of up to
 48 hours from time to time, so there may be some mail getting stuck
 on a queue for whatever reasons.

Yeah, that is what happened, hehe accidentally tripled posted ^_^

Yeah, never really seen it lag befor like that :/
but it is working nicely now :)
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2004-06-28 Thread James Mooney
I down loaded the newest version release 5.2.1 i386 and
I seem to have a problem burning disk 2 it says ziped
it is 268 megs but when I unzip it and try to burn it to CD
it says it is 799 megs ??
Any ideas?

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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:17:56 -0400
Jim Trigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:13:53PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
  On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
  Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'd like to upgrade to the x.org series from XFree86.
   Is there any simple guide to how to do this? There's 
   nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I see that some people
   have reported general success, but I'm worried that 
   I'll miss something or forget about rebuilding
   something in the three days it'll take to rebuild
   every X dependent
   port on my system.
  
  build xorg-server, deinstall it, reinstall, it use pkgdb -uF to
  fix :)
  
  then repeat for what other xorg stuff you want :)
  
  the pkgdb -uF is important... it will go through and update
  /var/db/pkg so that all ports recognize using the new xlibs and
  don't try to reinstall xfree86...
  
  pkgdb is part of portupgrade
 
 AFAICT, this won't really do anything -- there does not appear to be
 a real way to tell the ports system that you want X ports to depend
 on xorg instead of xfree.  Every X port appears to have xfree
 hardcoded.

Not sure, I think some do, but everything I have hear does not seem to
have that problem.
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Re: Burn

2004-06-28 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 28 June 2004 01:12 pm, James Mooney wrote:
 I down loaded the newest version release 5.2.1 i386 and
 I seem to have a problem burning disk 2 it says ziped
 it is 268 megs but when I unzip it and try to burn it to CD
 it says it is 799 megs ??
 Any ideas?

 James Mooney

Are you talking about file 5.2.1-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso?  If so, don't 
unzip it, just burn it.

Best regards,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
I was unaware that FreeBSD switched to X.org from XFree86.  Did we
switch or is there name confusion?  Are both offered in the newer
ports?
FreeBSD didn't switch. xorg is an alternative to xfree86 and 
some people try if it works.
See www.x.org and google for discussions.

Regards,
Uli.
Andrew Gould
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Re: Guide to x.org update?

2004-06-28 Thread Jim Trigg
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:22:32PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:17:56 -0400
 Jim Trigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  AFAICT, this won't really do anything -- there does not appear to be
  a real way to tell the ports system that you want X ports to depend
  on xorg instead of xfree.  Every X port appears to have xfree
  hardcoded.
 
 Not sure, I think some do, but everything I have hear does not seem to
 have that problem.

OK, so how do you get cvsup to use xorg?  As best I can tell, it will
depend on either XFree86 (XFree86 v. 3) or XFree86-4-libraries (XFree86
v. 4), with no option to depend on xorg-libraries.

Thanks,
Jim
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