Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creator of 4.4 BSD
Just in case somebody cares, The Art Of Unix Programming by Eric S. Raymond contains a very detailed description of the history of Unix, BSD and Linux. In my opinion, that chapter alone makes the book worth reading. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KSE and CPU in top...
Hello, Krok wrote: But top/ps shows not several processes, but one process with CPU more then 100% sometimes : 611 mysql 200 142M 91832K kserel 3 6:57 165.09% 165.09% mysqld Is it normal ? Do you happen to be running a multi-CPU system? I recently experienced a similar thing with a threaded perl-script using ~120% CPU on a dual AthlonMP. (and perl was, of course, built with ithreads) My assumption is that FreeBSD is now able to spread a process's threads among multiple CPUs. If so, I am never getting a single-CPU for a desktop system again. =) Oh yes, my /etc/libmap.conf: libm.so.2 libm.so.3 libc_r.so.5 libpthread.so.1 libc_r.so libpthread.so Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KSE and CPU in top...
Dan Nelson wrote: Press H in top to see each thread (or use the H flag to ps). They're hidden by default. Yes it works! I *love* SMP! =) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running named on one interface only
Hexren wrote:
*gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
this ?
Put the following line into your named.conf's options section:
listen-on { list of adresses to listen on };
In case you use IPv6, the directive is listen-on-v6 IIRC.
Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: ip address behind router ?
FreeBsdBeni wrote: I can indeed access the Linksys modem directly and find out the address. But I was hoping for a more direct or easier way to do it, if possible... Point your browser to www.whatismyip.com Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Out of the frying pan...
Hello, Andrew L. Gould wrote: 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than 5.2.1. Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, which basically worked okay. Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the other hand... Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I quit
Kevin Kinsey wrote: Just bin works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do that. *slight* exaggerationWhy M$ assumes the only thing you'll ever want to d/l via ftp is ASCII text /*slight* exaggeration is beyond me It's not the worst thing I've seen - when you want to transfer a text file from OS390/zOS, you are in deep water. =) zOS's native charset is EBCDIC. When you use ASCII transfer mode, all you get on an ASCII-based system is garbage. When you convert the file to ASCII on the mainframe and transfer it via ASCII, you get garbage. What you have to do is transfer the file in binary mode and convert it manually either before or afterwards. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE
I was too lazy to wait for the thin to build, so I downloaded the binary package. Works fine. =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is mplayer port broken ?
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 21:44 +0100, Xinizul Xinizul wrote: Could someone help me to workaround this or to notify to the maintainer about this issue ? I've been having this problem, too. Since I don't use mplayer's GUI at all, I normally just type Ctrl+C when make is trying to fetch it. Kind regards, Benjamin P.S.: Happy New Year to all of you Happy New Year! =) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd network
Hello, Dude Dude wrote: Right now, i'm changing cable for adsl, and i would like to know if i can mantain my network arch, cause ppp causes me a lot of confusion. I don't know about FreeBSD's support for dsl, but I've got that setup at home with a NetBSD machine connected to a dsl-modem on one NIC and to the local network on the other - works fine. PS: the gateway is running PF/NATD and dhcpd, and i would like to run it just like that in the new gateway... thanks Given that FreeBSD supports DSL - which I am pretty sure it does, as Net- and OpenBSD do support it - I think you can go on with your setup. It seems to be pretty popular, in fact. =) I don't know much about ppp, either, but again, I am pretty sure there's good documentation available. For NetBSD, there is a howto which brought me online in less than twenty minutes. But once that's working, a dsl line should not behave differently from a cable modem with regards to NAT and dhcp (you want the machine to be a dhcp server for the local network, I assume). Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.3 STABLE SMP Kernel
Ronnie Clark wrote: Hello all, I hope what I have is a simple question. I have a dual proc machine, that I have loaded 5.3 RELEASE on and then updated it to STABLE. While reading the Handbook I see where the GENERIC kernel has SMP built in via the SMP file in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf directory. So, to enable SMP for my custom kernel, do I simply need to edit SMP to include my custom kernel name? From my kernel config: # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic# I/O APIC Enjoy! =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: book recommendation...?
J.D. Bronson wrote: I am looking for a good FreeBSD book recomendation that would over the 5.x series and be available in Barnes/Noble locally. The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey is very good. If you don't mind something more general, Essential System Administration by Aeleen Frisch is very good, but it covers a broad range of operating systems and topics you're not going to need if you just use FreeBSD at home. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Everything randomly generates .core files
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: You probably have a bad CPU cache on your motherboard. The solution is to use that machine for some Windows system and get a different PC. While I agree with your diagnosis, it's probably a hardware problem, I don't think Windows is going to run well on that machine. I've had FreeBSD run for *hours* on flaky hardware, on which Windows wouldn't make, like, ten minutes. In the end, faulty hardware beats Operating System, but I've had several experiences, where I did not know just how faulty a piece of hardware was, until I tried to run Windows on it... =) So in my experience, if FreeBSD is unstable on that hardware, you can regard yourself lucky if you even get Windows installed without crashing all over the place. =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl 5.005 on Freebsd 5.3
Volker Lieder wrote: Hello list, i need the perlversion 5.005 on Freebsd 5.3. I tried to compile it by hand, but when i try make i got an error like make: don't know how to make built-in. Stop I need this perl-version only for one application :-/ Perhaps anybody has an idea. I also need version 5.8.5, but thats not the problem. Perhaps you can help me. Have you tried gmake? Some programs that won't build with FreeBSD's make build just fine using gmake. It's always the first thing I try when make fails. Otherwise, you can look for a binary package - even if it's old, you can probably get it to run with COMPAT_* Hope this helps, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RDEsktop/VNC questions
Louis LeBlanc wrote: Quick question about interconnectivity. You OSX users may be familiar with a very slick little utility called RDC (Remote Desktop Connection). Some of you other *BSDers may also be familiar with one called VNC (Visual Network Connection ?) or RDP (?). The purpose of said utilities is to provide a sort of graphical shell similar to an X session from a remote machine in a window. There are several rdesktop and vnc clients in the ports, so rather than go through the flurry of install-tryout-uninstall/repeat, I figured I'd go to the place to ask questions. Here. So, who's using these clients, and how effective have you been finding them? Any gotchas? How cool is it? Do they just plain suck? And more to the point, which one(s) should I start with on the short list? All feedback is welcome - and appreciated. Lou In my experience, vnc is painfully slow. rdesktop on the other hand has always performed to my full satisfaction. On Unix machines (and IIRC OSX, as well) you can also use X11 (preferrably tunneled through ssh). Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caching DNS Server?
Danny MacMillan wrote: No doubt BIND can do this ... but I find djbdns much easier to configure. I have never tried out djbdns, so I cannot say for myself, and I also understand that apparently djbdns has caused similarly intense discussions as KDE-vs-GNOME or vi-vs-emacs; so I want to make clear that I am not ranting about djbdns. But I don't really find BIND hard to configure as a caching nameserver. I run BIND on my NetBSD machine doing exactly that, and the caching part took no modification to the default configuration to work. On the other hand, like I said, I haven't worked with djbdns so far - from what I know it seems to be worth trying. I'm just a lazy person, so I never bothered trying when I had BIND installed already. =) And since I've been working on a BIND4-to-BIND9-migration for the recent months I got kind of used to it. Still, I really like the idea of having seperate servers for resolving recursive queries and for hosting zones, since this affects both security and performance. Nominum, the company that wrote BIND9, offers a commercial, closed-source nameserver as well, that also uses different servers for caching and hosting authoritative zon data. Then again, performance shouldn't differ for home use. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firefox and Mozilla stopped working
Hello everybody, I am using FreeBSD 5.3-RC2 I recently grabbed a recent ports-tree via ftp and happily installed firefox-1.0rc1. After the build process said Building Chrome Registry, firefox-bin was eating all free CPU-cycles. When I rebuilt, the same thing happened. Even more weird, Mozilla won't run anymore, either. Now I get the following error when I want to start firefox or mozilla: ## === 09:59:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~:: firefox [: Abort: unexpected operator Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 83 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno = 0) Abort trap (core dumped) ## What have I done wrong? I already uninstalled firefox and mozilla and reinstalled the old ports tree and rebuild firefox 0.9.3. It still gave me that error. I reinstalled mozilla, it also gave me that error. What is wrong here? I have already done an upgrade to 5.3-RELEASE, but the problem persists. (In case it matters, I have an SMP machine as well as an SMP-enabled kernel.) Has anyone had similar problems? Or am I just too stupid? Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help me, Get a Free flat screen
Daniel Jesperson wrote: Please help me, I'm trying to get a Free TV, check out this site, if you refer 8 people you get a free TV or Flat screen monitor... Copy and paste this link...and add one W to the front and you get a TV ww.FreeFlatScreens.com/?r=1141739 Best regards, and Thank you Daniel Jesperson Forget it *so much*. I'm getting enough spam already because of posting to mailing-lists... =) Besides, I just ordered a TFT last week... Hehe... Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
Richard Cotrina wrote: Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php heise.de questioned the credibility of the study. On the other hand they did a security survey around december 2003/january 2004, and IIRC, their results were *pretty* similar to what this study shows. I do believe, the heise-study also mentioned that BSD-systems were not only rarely attacked because of being so rare, but that the rate of successful attacks against BSD-based system was lower than with, say Linux and Windows. speculation I for one do believe that Linux gets aways so badly not because Linux inherently insecure or bad, but because many Linux-machines do not - that's my impression at least - receive the degree of administrative attention they would need. BSD - in my impression - attracts more experienced users/administrators than Linux, having become rather mainstream. If you looked at the attacked Linux systems in more detail, I also assume you'd find the same to be true for Red Hat/Suse vs. Debian systems. I do believe that the same goes for windows - since it's so easy to handle, superficially, it will tend to be operated by less experienced admins in general. Just remember that all the NT-worms only got so successful because there uncounted unpatched systems out there... /speculation Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question..
Hadi Maleki-Baroogh wrote: my freebsd system tries to start syslogd, panics on ffswrite, and initiates a boot.. it looks like it's continually cycling.. anyone know what can cause this? Not really. ;-? *Maybe*, just maybe, it is because syslog can't write. Maybe file/folder permissions are wrong, maybe filesystem flags like schg/uchg are active or the filesystem syslog tries to write to is mounted read-only... But there could, of course, be lots of other reasons as well. Maybe your harddisk is broken and the syslog-binary or the log-file or whatever is corrupted. Have you changed anything about the system recently? Try booting into single user mode and do an fsck. I found that if the system crashes too often without being able to do a fsck, at some point your filesystems become wrecked beyond hope for repair (5.2-RELEASE I was using at the time - though I have to note that the crashes were caused by faulty hardware). Also, on another machine, after crashing two times without being able to do a full fsck after the first crash, NetBSD 1.6.2-RC4 had somehow 'forgotten' about the disklabel. (Again, hardware issues) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory
Hello, Daniela wrote: I noticed a file called regs in my home directory (which is 21 megs in size) and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is not recognized by any of the common tools. The creation date was about four days ago, so if I created it, I would have remembered. I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of lots of four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an application. I've never heard of such a thing happening... About half an hour before the creation date there were numerous failed login attempts on the SSH port (all from the same IP), but my logs didn't show any signs of an intrusion. However, I suspect that I've been hacked. Well, /if/ someone intruded your system, she/he surely would remove all possible evidence (unless it's someone *really* stupid). If your machine was compromised, I suggest, you take it offline *now* and inspect it thoroughly. There is a piece of software called The Coroner's Toolkit (TCK) which I think is made for that. More easily, you can checksum your system files and compare them with a clean install. If you have recent backups, you can use these at well. If you are afraid a rootkit might have been installed - I don't know if these exist for FreeBSD, but I wouldn't be surprised... - you should consider booting from trusted media and inspecting the system, since sometimes root kits hide the intruder's files (at least for systems like Linux and Solaris, but again, I don't think FreeBSD will be much different in that regard). There was another strange occurence: Yesterday my internet connection went down without a particular reason. I tested a few other configurations and rebooted multiple times, and after the fifth reboot (with the usual settings restored) it suddenly worked again. Mmmh. Maybe your provider just had some problem... Who knows? Also there were quite a few crashes. Unless you have a static IP, it would be quite hard for the intruder to get in again. (OTOH, I don't think it would be hard to make a system send a message to the internet upon connection) Also, I suggest to look through your hardware - I had lots of crashes for some time, till I replaced my power supply. Now my machine runs like a champ. =) In case anyone wants to know, the offending IP was 200.84.78.83. If it was a dial-up connection, that doesn't mean anything. Maybe it's also a machine that's already compromised. Before you start wearing a foil-hat, remember that all of the above only applies if your system was indeed compromised (how I /love/ that word, it sounds so serious...). It is after all still posibble that it's just... I don't know... something really weird. Sometimes applications will create such things for no apparent reason (from a users point of view at least). Of course, this would be unusual, but not impossible. Still, if you have security-concerns, I suggest you take the box offline and examine it. As a side-effect, this is probably very interesting. I wish you good luck (and that your system be still intact)! Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: perl vs php round 1
Gert Cuykens wrote: Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should think so. In fact, I am pretty sure you can do far more with Perl than with PHP... There are so many modules for perl, I think there's hardly anything short of writing a compiler or operating system that cannot be done in perl (and possibly even that)... Or are you referring to web development specifically? In that regard, I think the two are pretty close in terms of what they allow you to do. PHP has a strong plus since it's embeddable in HTML, and a strong minus, because I did not get a debugger to work with it... I for one prefer Perl a lot, since it's really an all-round language whereas PHP was designed with web development in mind; true, nowadays you can also write GUIs in PHP, but it wasn't meant to do that... However, I think - if you are in fact talking about web development - Perl vs. PHP is more a matter of taste (or other circumstances) than a technical one. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!
Hello, Brian wrote: So I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it. Great! =) [...] I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work station which I'm sure it's more than able to be. Yes, it is. =) I've been using FreeBSD 5.x on my desktop machine for about a year now - I had just one really frustrating experience when my box would get quite unstable, but it turned out to be hardware-related. Otherwise it's been great. =) Since you already have experience with FreeBSD, migration won't be too painful, I think. I hope you'll enjoy FreeBSD as much as I do. =) For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall, web,email, irc and local development. Unless you want to do development in exotic languages, FreeBSD is perfectly suitable for that. Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla Suite are available for FreeBSD as well as lots of other applications. Same goes for IRC and development... BTW, FreeBSD is also suitable for e.g. watching TV or DVDs as well as lots of digital formats for video and music. In fact, it detected my on-board soundchip out of the box, whereas both Windows 2000 and 2003 didn't. Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task. Version of FreeBSD? Well, technically the production-release is still 4.x, but as I said, I've been using FreeBSD 5.x on my desktop (AthlonXP 2400+, now a dual AthlonMP 2400+) for about a year now. Besides the hardware-issues (my power-supply would just fail every now and then), I didn't have any trouble. Also, the release of 5.3 is imminent, which will be the first production release to have a 5 in front of the dot. =) So I recommend version 5. As of now, I'm using 5.3-BETA7, and it works great. Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and lots of RAM. What exactly is lots of RAM? I think you should have 128MB for a graphical environment, preferrably more if you want to run lots of memory-eaters (like KDE). I've been happy for a long time with 256MB, now I have 512 and am even more happy. =) But 128 to 256 should be sufficient under most conditions. If they are at 1.9GHz, chances are rather good they have more than enough RAM. =) As for CPU speed, a Pentium III 450 can make for a decent desktop machine, so you've got nothing to fear, here... Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? Window Manager: I use Window Maker. I've been using it for some years now, and I love it. It's easy to use, doesn't waste my ressources and it has everything I need, namely virtual desktops. Plus, it has a sidebar that can be extended with useful DockApps. Email/Web: I use Firefox and Thunderbird happily. Again, they are quite easy to use, not too ressource-hungry and got everything I need. Thunderbird has excellent junk-mail detection, Firefox has an extension called AdBlock which does a great job at blocking ads. For IRC i use xchat, though I gotta admit I just chose the first irc-client that came to mind. For programming I like gvim, since it's... well, vi plus some useful enhancements. Emacs I just use for HTML... (Probably Emacs is great, but I don't know any lisp and haven't had much success at learning it) Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop enviroment. Uh, the handbook? You can install it locally along with FreeBSD. I've you've worked with FreeBSD before, you probably know it already. Especially, you might want to look at http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop.html Also, if you are willing to spend some money, The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey is really great. It's both a good beginner's introduction into various tasks and a useful reference (it covers version 5.x). Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas is said to be good, too, but I don't know if it covers 5.x. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gtk-sharp build hangs
Christopher Nehren wrote: Yes for DotGNU, haven't tried Rotor recently. DotGNU masquerades in the ports tree under the names pnet*, found under lang/. Rotor masquerades under the name cli, and is also under lang/. Thanks, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!
Brian wrote: Lots of ram is they all have at least 512mb. That *is* enough. =) I didn't have problems at 512mb, so far... I should take Secure out of there I'm fairly well up on FreeBSD Security and all boxes are behind a well maintained FreeBSD Router/Firewall. I have all those books :) I don't have too much experience running servers on FreeBSD (my local server/gateway runs NetBSD for historical reasons, so to speak, and I like it as well), but if you have experience with FreeBSD and like it, I think you'll like it just as much on the desktop. XFree/X.org can be a little nasty sometimes, but once it works, it mostly stays that way. And since you have prior experience and plenty of good documentation available, I think you will have lots of fun. =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Private (only) DNS server setup?
Hello, Seth Henry wrote: I want to run a private DNS server which is visible internally only. Comcast doesn't like servers, so I don't want to broadcast any DNS information upstream. (this would also be kind of dumb, as the entries would point to non-routable addresses) I also want to create a private, internal zone so that I can stop passing hosts files around. (i.e. 192.168.1.1 - internal_host1, etc) IOW - I would like internal machines to point to my DNS server for internal external addresses. If the DNS server (on the router) can't find the address in its local cache, I would like the router to retrieve the record, and pass it along to the internal machine. In the end, I want to block all DNS traffic from the internal network from leaving the network - internal machines should only request DNS info from the router. I did exactly that recently. This is pretty easy to set up once you understand DNS - DNS *can* be complicated, but for what you want to do, it's simple. You can find info in the FreeBSD-Handbook as well as in the BIND v9 Administrator's Reference Manual (which can be found at www.bind9.net, also, it's installed locally along with BIND9). I am already running dhcpd - so i plan to simply point all of the machines to my DNS server. If all goes well, new machines should be network ready right after the install. Works in my network. =) As I said, it's rather easy. I have seen a large number of HOWTO's on the web, but all seem to assume that you want to propogate internal DNS info back upstream. Can anyone refer me to an appropriate README, HOWTO? See the FreeBSD handbook and the Bindv9 ARM for caching-only nameserver. Beyond that, you just need to set up an internal zone. If you feel it might be helpful, I can send you a copy of my configuration and zone file/s. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good newsreaders for FreeBSD?
Tom Connolly wrote: Hello List, I'm looking for a newsreader that has multi-server capabilities in that it can piece together articles using different newsgroup servers. Similar to NewsPro for windoze. Anyone had any luck with a good newreader port for FreeBSD? I'm running FreeBSD 4.10 if that makes any difference. I use Thunderbird. It does not have the multiserver-capabilities you describe, but otherwise I like it a lot. Especially as I am able to do mail and news from one program, also I really like its junk mail detection. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Private (only) DNS server setup?
Hi,
Ezequiel O. Block wrote:
The allow-recursion option would limit queries only to your lan. like
this
options {
allow-recursion { 192.168.1.0/24; 127.0.0.1; };
};
You can also say:
options {
...
listen-on { 192.168.0.1; 127.0.0.1; };
}; ^^^
(Or whatever your server's local IP is)
This way it will only listen on those interfaces.
Also, there's allow-query and blackhole... _Plus_ you can just use a
packet filter
to protect your DNS-server from the internet. Possibilities are
endless... =)
Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: gtk-sharp build hangs
Hello, Thanks for your answers (that goes to everyone who answered)! Tom McLaughlin wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 16:01 +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Hello everyone, I am just trying to install gtk-sharp from ports. mono installed just fine, but the gtk-sharp build seems to hang at some point: snip At this point mono will start eating huge amount of cpu-cycles. I don't know if this is to be expected, but after mono had gathered about an hour of cpu-time, I aborted. I'm going to give it another try tonight, but I wanted to ask, if it is normal for a gtk-sharp build to take so long. The machine is a dual AthlonMP 2400+ (only one cpu used for building) with 512MB RAM, the system is 5.3-BETA7. mono is version 1.0_1 and gtk-sharp - as you can see above - is version 1.0_2 Thank you very much, Benjamin Simple solution: cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/ make clean make install (repeat as necessary) That is what I did in the first place. To make sure it didn't just take a long time to build, I let it run all night. When I came back to my machine the next morning, mono had been consuming some 11 hours of CPU-time, with no further output on the terminal... Long solution: Someone needs to look at the threading issues with Mono and FreeBSD. If anyone is interested I can gladly point them to a number of reproducible crashes. While I am not really a programmer (I do know a little C... but not *that* much), I think I do agree... I tried to compile a simple Hello-World that used the Console only - half of the time, mcs would spit out an error message, half of the time it would hang, again eating up an entire CPU (sometimes I *am* glad to own an SMP-machine, hehe). To me it looks like mcs and mono enter infinite loops from time to time... But this is not really reproducible, sometimes it hangs and sometimes it does not, for no apparent reason. To make sure I wasn't wasting my - and your - time, I looked into the issue with libm.so.[23]. After upgrading to 5.3-BETA7 and switching to X.org, I found that most of my X-apps did not work any more, so I had to rebuild nearly all of my ports. Well, and the base system, of course (having upgraded from sources). I decided to create /etc/libmap.conf and enter libm.so.2 libm.so.3 like /usr/ports/UPDATING suggested. Afterwards, I rebuilt mono - it took me three tries before I had it installed without mono_lt hanging. Then I retried to build Hello-World: === 18:14:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Media/devel/mono:: mcs Hallo.cs error CS0016: Could not write to file `Hallo.exe', cause: Win32 IO returned ERROR_LOCK_VIOLATION. Path: ./Hallo.exe Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 0 warnings ^C === 18:15:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Media/devel/mono:: mcs Hallo.cs error CS0016: Could not write to file `Hallo.exe', cause: Win32 IO returned ERROR_LOCK_VIOLATION. Path: ./Hallo.exe Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 0 warnings The first build - the one I aborted - had resulted in mono hanging. I keep the mono ports up to date myself while the regular maintainer is away plus I've added some new ports. My project site is in my sig and you can download mono-merge.tar.gz from there to work with the latest versions of Mono. To be honest, I'm short of giving up - I am not really a fan of .Net, I was just going to learn it for a friend's sake who is just discovering .Net. Personally, I am more into Perl and Python. From what I've seen so far, I think C# is too much like Java - static typing, Arrays of fixed size... I mean, I am not saying C# or .Net sucks - I just don't like it so far. OTOH, I was strongly prejudiced against both Perl and Python before I actually toyed around with them a little, and then I came to like both *very much*. So, who knows... And finally, I just don't trust Microsoft not to come back in a few years and rip everybody's head off for patent-issues or something like that. (I mean, if Microsoft says 'platform-independent', it means 'runs on several versions of windows') Anyway, I'd like to be able to at least get this to work, so I'll try the tarballs from the project site. BTW, has anyone managed to get DotGnu or Rotor to work? I haven't found them in the ports tree (I looked under ports/devel and ports/lang). Thank you very much, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: arbitrary programs in /etc/ttys
Hello, Geert Hendrickx wrote: ttyv0 /usr/bin/cu -l cuaa0vt100 on secure But this gives me the following error when restarting init: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv0, sleeping 30 secs Apparently cu can not be started directly from /etc/ttys, can it? How else should I accomplish this? I think you are trying to start cu on a _virtual_ terminal (ttyvN). In my /etc/ttys the section with the virtual terminals is followed by these entries: # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. ttyd0 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 dialup off secure ttyd1 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 dialup off secure ttyd2 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 dialup off secure ttyd3 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 dialup off secure # Dumb console dcons /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt100 off secure I think you just need to turn the corresponding serial port on. I am not sure if you can create a login screen on your soon-to-be terminal automatically upon startup of the FreeBSD box, however... Hope this helps, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE for gcc
Phusion wrote: I was wondering if anyone could give me some recommendations for an IDE for gcc. Let me know. Thanks. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emacs. =) Or, if you really want something graphical - try kDevelop or Anjuta. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gtk-sharp build hangs
Hello everyone, I am just trying to install gtk-sharp from ports. mono installed just fine, but the gtk-sharp build seems to hang at some point: # === Building for gtk-sharp-1.0_2 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0' Making all in sources gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0/sources' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0/sources' Making all in generator gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0/generator' /usr/local/bin/mcs /out:gapi_codegen.exe ./AliasGen.cs ./BoxedGen.cs ./ByRefGen.cs ./CallbackGen.cs ./ClassBase.cs ./ClassGen.cs ./CodeGenerator.cs ./ConstStringGen.cs ./Ctor.cs ./CustomMarshalerGen.cs ./EnumGen.cs ./Field.cs ./GenBase.cs ./GenerationInfo.cs ./GObjectGen.cs ./IGeneratable.cs ./ImportSignature.cs ./InterfaceGen.cs ./ManagedCallString.cs ./ManualGen.cs ./MethodBody.cs ./Method.cs ./ObjectGen.cs ./OpaqueGen.cs ./Parameters.cs ./Parser.cs ./Property.cs ./Signal.cs ./SignalHandler.cs ./Signature.cs ./SimpleGen.cs ./Statistics.cs ./StringGen.cs ./StructBase.cs ./StructGen.cs ./SymbolTable.cs ./TimeTGen.cs ./VMSignature.cs Compilation succeeded gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0/generator' Making all in parser gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-sharp/work/gtk-sharp-1.0/parser' source='formatXml.c' object='formatXml.o' libtool=no \ depfile='.deps/formatXml.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/formatXml.TPo' \ depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../depcomp \ cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wno-cast-qual -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -c `test -f 'formatXml.c' || echo './'`formatXml.c /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link cc -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wno-cast-qual -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -o gapi_format_xml formatXml.o -L/usr/local/lib -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv -L/usr/local/lib -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm mkdir .libs cc -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wno-cast-qual -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -o gapi_format_xml formatXml.o -L/usr/local/lib -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm /usr/bin/ld: warning: libm.so.2, needed by /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so, may conflict with libm.so.3 /usr/local/bin/mcs /out:gapi-fixup.exe ./gapi-fixup.cs Compilation succeeded # At this point mono will start eating huge amount of cpu-cycles. I don't know if this is to be expected, but after mono had gathered about an hour of cpu-time, I aborted. I'm going to give it another try tonight, but I wanted to ask, if it is normal for a gtk-sharp build to take so long. The machine is a dual AthlonMP 2400+ (only one cpu used for building) with 512MB RAM, the system is 5.3-BETA7. mono is version 1.0_1 and gtk-sharp - as you can see above - is version 1.0_2 Thank you very much, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reverse ssh
Micah Bushouse wrote: Thanks in advance for any responses, ~Micah You could write a script that sends an email to you every morning which contains your IP-address. *Encrypted*, of course!!! Such a thing could easily be done in Perl or even in shell. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downloading FreeBSD
nbco wrote: Bittorrent is a type of p2p protocol: http://bittorrent.com/introduction.html Bittorrent would take the pressure off the servers as those who use it would effectively be getting the isos from those that already have them on their own boxes, in short it cuts the servers out of the picture therefore reducing congestion. It's in ports. I use: /usr/ports/net/py-bittornado home page: http://bittornado.com/ [...] Once I move to 5.3 I could seed it and we can see whether it is picked up. I don't think there is any real reason to seed 5.2.1. If it offers the kind of performance edonkey offers, I won't use it. Unless the server were in real trouble when a new release comes out. But then again, there are lots of mirrors. Where I live (Germany), I usually get 180 kb./sec and more from a local mirror. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea. P2P could be a very powerful tool for distributing free software, documentation, patches... On the other hand security comes to mind. But wait, you can still get your checksums from the server. But for anything you get from a source as trustworthy as a P2P network, you *want* to use checksums. =) ..nbco Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php4 with gd?
Ray Davis wrote: There seems to be a big gap between simply installing a port with its defaults and finding out what other options might be available via the WITH_* and WITHOUT_* options. Isn't this documented with each port somewhere? Look at the Makefile and the CONFIGURE_ARGS variable. I don't know the option for php, but something like --enable-gd might help. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thunderbird not displaying mails in IMAP-folder
Hello everyone, I recently set up a Courier-IMAP server (version 3.0.5) in my local network. I want to use Thunderbird 0.7.3 running on FreeBSD 5.2.1 to connect to the server. Basically, this works. But when new mails arrive in the mailbox, Thunderbird only indicates them in the folder tree, when I click on the folder, I sometimes see the new messages, sometimes they remain invisible. Sometimes switching to another folder in my mailbox and then back will help - sometimes not. Sometimes I can see the messages after some time, sometimes I have to restart Thunderbird. Is this rather a Thunderbird-problem or an IMAP-problem? (Courier is running on NetBSD 1.6.2, if that matters - Courier's log files did not show any helpful messages) Sylpheed 0.9.12 did not show this behaviour. However, I'd prefer Thunderbird for its ability to read both email and news. Thanks a lot, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird not displaying mails in IMAP-folder
Radek Kozlowski wrote: You'll need to configure courier-imap with: --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs to make Mozilla/Thunderbird work. -Radek Thanks a lot! Seems to work now. =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Outlook Calendar Replacement in ports?
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:09:25 -0700 Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Made my doc a committment to put appointments on FreeBSD, like I used to do at work on Windoze. No more missed ones LOL. Is there a good desk app in ports that will do this? Doesnt have to be fancy, just work reliably. Something that ran in background would be perfect. And no- I'm not going to put them in as cron jobs HAHA Thanks, Rob KDE has Kontact. Also, Evolution comes to mind. I think I remember there was a KDE app called korganizer, which also had some functionality for managing appointments among several users. I have never worked with Kontact and Evolution and only little experience with Korganizer on a single-user desktop. Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP command line syntax
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:04:34 -0600 Steve Suhre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I use the suggested syntax: ftp ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path I get:Can't locate or login to host `user' It looks like ftp is not aware of the man page and wants the server where the login info is supposed to be. I've tried several variations of the line with no luck. Any help? The above command works for me (FreeBSD 5.2.1, i386). I have to give the path _relative to my login-directory_. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~:: ftp ftp://krylon:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/distinfo Connected to wintermute. 220- 220 wintermute FTP server (NetBSD-ftpd 20020615) ready. 331 Password required for krylon. 230- NetBSD 1.6.2_STABLE (WINTERMUTE) #7: Sun Sep 26 02:09:00 CEST 2004 Welcome to NetBSD on wintermute! 230 User krylon logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. 200 Type set to I. local: distinfo remote: distinfo 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||65528|) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'distinfo' (110 bytes). 100% |**| 110 7.94 KB/s00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 110 bytes received in 00:00 (1.09 KB/s) 221- Data traffic for this session was 110 bytes in 1 file. Total traffic for this session was 953 bytes in 1 transfer. 221 Thank you for using the FTP service on wintermute. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~:: So if I wanted to grab the kernel-image from that machine I would have to say: ftp ftp://krylon:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/../../netbsd (My login-directory is, of course, /home/krylon.) Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:44:46 +0100 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just installed the latest 5.3 beta with XOrg 6.7.0. The mouse works, except I can't get the mouse wheel to work. The mouse section of xorg.conf is as follows: [ ... ] The last two option lines are as the XFree86 config on my old 4.x install was. Is there something simple and obvious I haven't done? I recently switched to X.org without changing any of my configuration. My mouse section looks like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol SysMouse Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Works fine. I guess you have to change the protocol to SysMouse. - d. Hope it helps, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GORM not compiling from ports
Hello everyone, I was up to learning a little Objective-C and wanted to install GORM from ports (/usr/ports/devel/gorm), which is a clone of NeXT Step's Interface Builder (as far as I know). However, the build stops with the following error message. I think that some underlying library is causing a problem. Can anyone give me a hint? Here's the tail of the output of 'sudo make install clean': --- Making all in Testing... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/gorm/work/Gorm-0.7.7/Testing' Making all for app GormTest... Creating GormTest.app/ Compiling file GormTest.m ... Linking app GormTest ... Creating GormTest.app/Resources... Creating GormTest.app/Resources/Info-gnustep.plist... Creating GormTest.app/Resources/GormTest.desktop... Copying resources into the app wrapper... gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/gorm/work/Gorm-0.7.7/Testing' Making all for app Gorm... Creating Gorm.app/ Compiling file Gorm.m ... Gorm.m:30:43: GNUstepGUI/GSNibCompatibility.h: No such file or directory Gorm.m: In function `-[Gorm testInterface:]': Gorm.m:726: warning: cannot find method Gorm.m:726: warning: return type for `awakeWithContext:topLevelItems:' defaults to id Gorm.m: At top level: Gorm.m:1487: cannot find interface declaration for `NSViewTemplate' gmake[1]: *** [shared_obj/Gorm.o] Error 1 gmake: *** [Gorm.all.app.variables] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gorm. --- Thanks in advance, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what password files do i need?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:13:05 -0500 Anthony Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was planning on doing a clean install for 5.3 when it comes out, and I have seveal friends who have accounts on my box. Which password files do I need to move over so that their passwords won't change. Thanks a lot. Anthony Philipp I *think* it's /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd. I'm not giving any guarantees, though. =) (If in doubt, you might also want to grep /etc for the logins of your friends.) Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what password files do i need?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:31:31 +0100 Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group -- you can regenerate /etc/passwd from /etc/master.passwd by running: # pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd But note that there have been changes to the standard system accounts which you will need to merge. Thanks for correcting that. I'm thinking about a clean install, too, when 5.3 comes out. Luckily, I'm using it alone, which makes the restoring of user accounts rather easy... =) Cheers, Matthew Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Sound after upgrading KDE
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:37:06 +0100 R. W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently upgraded to KDE 3.3 (under FreeBSD 5.2.1) and the sound stopped working properly. I hear the tune as KDE starts up, but then there is no sound after that. Multimedia applications still work properly under XFce, it's just KDE. Maybe artsd gets started along with KDE and grabs control of your sound card. You can either try to deactivate it - if it turns out to be guilty - or try to make your apps work with it. Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:27:41 +0100 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, neither of these suggestions work, either separately or together! More detail: the mouse is a Compaq (Logitech) USB optical mouse. I did try moused_port=/dev/ums0 as well. Any other ideas? I am sorry it didn't work. I have been using PS/2 for mouse and keyboard since I got my first ATX-board. I tried a USB-mouse once, under Linux, and it didn't work, so I never tried again... ;-/ If it has to do with the mouse being a USB-mouse, I'm out of my element. =( But wait, does moused work? If not, is it giving any error messages? If moused does not work - or doesn't work with the mousewheel, anyway - X.org won't support the mousewheel, either. You can also try to configure moused via /sbin/sysinstall. - d. Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP Problem
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:41:45 +0200 Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: If you habe further questions, I'd be glad to help, but I suggest you contact me privately, since your problem is not that strictly FreeBSD-related. I disagree with that. It would be better to do this publicaly. Others can then learn from this example. This is also suggested in FreeBSD documantion. As to the matter where it belong. I think it better on ports@ but questions@ isn't that far off. I have seen lot of helpful help on this list about this. So helpful that is only recently learned about ports@ Mmmh, maybe I've just been reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] for too long... =) Alex Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP Problem
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:59:14 -0700 digish reshamwala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have installed Apache Mod_ssl 1.3.29 first then, I installed PHP using ports in FreeBSD 5.2.1 as: cd /usr/ports/www/php4-cgi make make install clean But my PHP doesn't seems to be working, as my simple Hello World program- [ Hello-world-code snipped ] doesn't give any output. It just displays the blank page. Can u guys help me asap, please??! Well, strictly speaking, this does not belong here. ... Furthermore, you aren't giving much information... Have you looked up the logfiles? Try setting php's error reporting to E_ALL (don't know the name of the variable in the config file right now...) and see if any messages turn up in apaches error-logfile (most often named 'err.log'). Normally, if there is a problem, it tends to get flooded... =) Furthermore, are you sure you want php to run as CGI? I am not sure about FreeBSD's port layout, but on my server (NetBSD 1.6.2) I have two packages installed, php-4.3.4 and ap-php-4.3.4, which is the apache module for php. If you want to do CGI, you have to set that up in apache, too, define a folder to be your server's /cgi-bin/, and put all the php-files there. But unless you have some specific reason for doing so, I strongly doubt you want to run php via CGI... If you habe further questions, I'd be glad to help, but I suggest you contact me privately, since your problem is not that strictly FreeBSD-related. thanks a lot, digish Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org performance?
Hello, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:40:30 +0530 Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cat /etc/make.conf PERL_VER=5.8.2 PERL_VERSION=5.8.2 PERL_ARCH=mach NOPERL=yo NO_PERL=yo NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo CPUTYPE=athlon-mp CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg But like I said, I think I chose the wrong words - X.org does not perform poorly, it's just that it sometimes will use lots of CPU, and I am under the impression it does even more so than XFree did. Or is it just my perception kidding me? Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP MySQL
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:53:18 -0700 digish reshamwala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Hi, I want to install the specific version only if I use the ports to install using: cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server make make insall clean It installs MySQL 4.0.18 not 4.0.20?? So can u help me in installing those specific version?! Look at /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server/distinfo. This file says what source tarball the port uses. Mine says 4.0.20. You can try fetching a newer version of the ports tree. It's available from FreeBSD-ftp-mirrors. Or you can look at one of the ftp-mirrors for a binary package. kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org performance?
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:56:28 +0530 Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg make this CFLAGS=-O -pipe -O2 is known to create more problem than it solves Thank you very much! I'm going to try rebuilding X.org as soon as I find the time... Regards S. Kind regards, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Native Mozilla-Firebird build via ports?
Hello everyone, I recently got myself a broadband internet connection and happily started upgrading a lot of software on my machine. Among others, I wanted to upgrade MozillaFirebird. Before the upgrade I used FireBird 0.7. Then I deinstalled the package - I really don't remember where I got the package... - and wanted to upgrade via ports. Unfortunately, I discovered that this was not a native version but a Linux version running in binary compatibility. ;-/ I'd rather have native build, since I know this is possible. Can I do so via ports? 'find /usr/ports -name *bird*' only comes up with linux-mozillafirebird in /usr/ports/www. Or do I have to build Firebird myself? Thanks in advance, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native Mozilla-Firebird build via ports?
Hi, On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:10:15 +0200 yuri van Overmeeren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Firebird' is now called 'Firefox', you dont have to build it, Native version is in the packages (version 0.9.3) Oh, yes, I remember... ooops... should've thought of that... Thank you very much, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X.org performance?
Hello everyone, I am using FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a dual AthlonMP 2400+ with 512MB RAM, 60GB of IDE HDD (UDMA100) and a GeForce 4200Ti. I recently switched over X.org. After some minor hassles I actually got it to work. =) However, I *kind of feel* like performance has become worse. Especially using AcroRead burns cycles without end. But, say, switching desktops (I'm using WindowMaker) with maximized windows on them also hits the CPU considerably. ;-? Does anyone experience similar 'problems'? (I mean, it's not like my system wasn't working or something) Is there any hope this might get better with coming versions? I am using the 'nv' driver, not nVidia's. I tried the nVidia driver under Linux, once, and it made my system rather unstable. ;-/ Thanks for any hints, kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org performance?
Hello, On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:01:25 -0500 Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Runs like a champ. Good for you. =) I'm not really saying it doesn't run sufficiently - or if I was, I didn't mean to -, it's just that X.org is consuming large amounts of cpu-time. I mean, it's not like my system is getting slow, exactly, it's just Xorg uses a lot of CPU, sometimes. I mean, XFree did that, too, but I am under the impression that Xorg is a little worse, in that respect. Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that different from XFree, technically? Josh Paetzel Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org performance?
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:43:22 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Björn Lindström) wrote: Benjamin Walkenhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that different from XFree, technically? Is your configuration identical? Using certain modules can cost some cycles, for instance, so if you also started using any of those with your switch, that could explain your impression. Mmmh, I did not touch the configuration file at all. Haven't looked at it in a while, actually. I'll look there and try to disable unused/unneccessary modules. Thanks, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, Introduction To Distributed Systems ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Embarrassing typo [was: Re: New]
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:19:25 +0100 Benjamin Walkenhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD is very similar to windows, in many ways, from a user's point of view. I'm sorry, FreeBSD is in not quite similar to windows. What I meant to say was: very similar to Linux, from a user's point of view Kind regards, Benjamin -- If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. -- Dorothy Parker ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:25:23 -0500 Patrick Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Want to give it a try! it is FreeBSD, I suppose? I hope you'll enjoy FreeBSD as much as I do. =) Very experienced with all versions of windows, have been building computers for 15 years.. Sick of the windows restrictions. Well, I can see why. =) When I first came to non-windows systems, it was Linux, too. I was just curious, but I came to like Unix a lot. Doing any real work on Windows machines has become an annoyance to me. I mean, you can't even set the input focus to follow the mouse... What am I in for?? Have tried many versions of Linux.There are too many anymore. Well, what was it you did not like that much about Linux? FreeBSD is very similar to windows, in many ways, from a user's point of view. The basic command-line tools are more or less the same (differing in detail, though), X11 is the same, you got the same desktop environments and window managers available (like KDE, GNOME, Windowmaker, ...), mozilla's there, too, all the network services... Unlike some distributions of Linux, FreeBSD does not have any graphical tools for installing or configuring the system. It uses a text-based tool called sysinstall for installing and some system-configuration, but once you got the system installed, you're on your own, more or less. So far, this is pretty similar to Debian or Slackware. But if configuring the system by command-line and config-files does not scare you, you'll probably find FreeBSD very easy to configure. Unlike Linux, FreeBSD is a complete system which can look back on a long history, and you see that - FreeBSD is very tidy and reasonable in respect to what config-file belongs where, where applications are installed, and so on. Compared to Linux, FreeBSD has a reputation for being very reliable (not that Linux was entirely unreliable) and performant (though I don't know if/how much this has changed with Linux 2.6). Also, installing applications is very easy to do, as is upgrading the system. What you're in for depends on what you want or need. If you have some knowledge of Unix-systems already, you'll feel pretty familiar and will probably like FreeBSD a lot. If you want to do mainly desktop-stuff (office, email, mozilla, ...), you'll be fine - I do so, too. I also use FreeBSD to watch movies (DVD, DiVX, ...), listen to music and watch TV. If you want to do development, you'll find an excellent environment, the GNU C Compiler is part of the base system, as well as Perl, compilers, interpreters and libraries for a number of other languages are easily available. Where is a good place to start? www.freebsd.org But since you're writing to this mailing list, I suppose you found that site already. =) What's a good read to get up 2 speed??? First, there's the FreeBSD manual, which is *great* - it's available online (www.FreeBSD.org - Documentation - Manual), and it's also installed with the base system. Numerous translations are available, as well. If you want a printed book, I can recommend The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey. Mr. Lehey is an active developer of FreeBSD, and a great author as well. Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas is said to be very good, too, I don't own that book myself, though, so I can't tell for sure. If I'm not mistaken, you'll find more tips on books on the FreeBSD-website. (work) I have time to read That's good. Unless you have much experience with Unix, you'll have to read a lot. Whether or not that's bad depends on you. I'm a big reader, so I even enjoy it, mostly. [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) I have time too play with new operating systems Well, as I said, I hope, you'll enjoy FreeBSD as much as I do. I like playing around with different operating systems, too, Linux distributions mainly. If you like FreeBSD, you might want to give one of the other free BSD-based systems a try. There is NetBSD (www.netbsd.org) and OpenBSD (www.openbsd.org), plus some 'spin-offs' (DragonFlyBSD, EkkoBSD, to name just two, there's more...). Before someone thinks of flaming me, I should hasten to add that FreeBSD - in my view - is the best system for 'first-contact' among these. It also somehow feels like it is the best *BSD-system for desktop-work and especially multimedia, but I might be wrong here. =) If you give FreeBSD a try (CDs are available for free download as well as from several vendors), you'll probably run into further questions. Before asking the mailing-list, you should consult google, or this mailing-list's archive (which you can find at the FreeBSD-website, too), as well as the manual. This is considered an act of politeness by some, but it tends to be the faster way, too, since with google/archives/documentation you find your answer pretty quickly in most cases, while on the mailing-list you have to wait for someone to look at your problem and answer. Also, if ask the mailing-list, you should include as much
Re: Administration
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:08:52 -0800 Derek Burns / Bend-Pak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way I can administer my FreeBSD web server from my pc? Sure, there's ssh. With ssh you can also do sftp, which works like ftp, only it's encrypted via ssh. If your server is on a trusted network, you can also use rlogin or telnet, but if you connect to you web-server via the internet, *don't use these*, because they are *very* insecure. I run a headless NetBSD-machine at home, which I use as a small home server (nfs mainly) - except for installing the system or changing BIOS-settings I can do *everything* via remote login. If you run a Un*x-like system on your PC (like, uh, FreeBSD, some other BSD, Linux) you can also run X11-applications remotely on the server and have their windows displayed on your local machine - just login with 'ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. If you run windows, you can do that, too, but you have to install third-party software. XFree is available for Win32, also, there are some commercial packages. I think, Exceed does something like that. There are ssh-clients available for windows, as well, of course. Kind regards, Benjamin -- If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. -- Dorothy Parker ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TV card
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:15:15 - Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone suggest a decent tv card that will work under freebsd in the uk? I don't know if this has got anything to do with where you live, but I (living in Germany) have been using a Brooktree 878-based card (Hauppauge WinTV Go!), which so far has worked flawlessly under Windows 98/ME/2k, Linux 2.2 - 2.6, FreeBSD 5. It also worked with NetBSD 1.6 and BeOS 5 PE, but the OS'es did not support overlay mode, so the TV-application consumed lots of CPU-cycles. Brooktree cards are supported via the bktr(4) driver. I suggest, if in doubt, go for Hauppauge, but unless you want to *a lot more* than just watching TV, I don't think it matters that much, as long as the chipset is made by Brooktree. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating mp3
Hello, On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:51:19 -0600 Quintin Riis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mp3 is outdated, use vorbis. I wouldn't say so. Unless you show me an affordable hardware-vorbis-player. There's plenty of CD-Players that will also play mp3-CDs, just like most standalone-DVD-players. Also, I hear, XMMS does not support vorbis. I don't know for sure, though. Furthermore, mp3 offers suffcient audio-quality (if your audio-source is of good quality and your encoder is good) for most circumstances - Vorbis, as far as I know, offers superior audio-quality only at bitrates above 160 kbps. And at that bitrates, I don't think I could tell mp3 from vorbis, at least not using my ES1371-based sound-card and my cheap active speakers. Just to make things clear, there's *nothing* wrong with vorbis. If you care for audio-quality primarily and your source offers that degree of quality, go for vorbis! But there *are* reasons for still using mp3, and it's not exactly like mp3 sucks. =) abcde is nice, as is cdparanoia AFAIK, abcde only serves as a frontend for various other tools (cdparanoia, lame, oggenc, ...). You still need cdparanoia, oggenc, lame, for abcde to work. Quintin kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DVD playback finally works! =)
Hello everyone, When I recently switched from Slackware 9.1 to FreeBSD 5.2, one of the few things that didn't work right away was DVD-playback. Now it works, I just have to chmod /dev/acd0 to 666 and create a symlink to /dev/dvd. Contrary to what I've read so far, DVD playback even works with MPlayer. =) Unfortunately, due to devfs, I have to change the permissions for acd0 and create the link (/dev/dvd) every time the system starts up - is there any way to make these changes permanent? Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD playback finally works! =)
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:15:47 +0100 Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2004 09:55, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Unfortunately, due to devfs, I have to change the permissions for acd0 and create the link (/dev/dvd) every time the system starts up - is there any way to make these changes permanent? Yes there is. -- man devfs -- edit /etc/devfs.conf Thanks! Antoine kind regards, Benjamin! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Options for a New Kernel
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:36:56 -0500 Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still trying to learn how FreeBSD works. Can I create a new kernel file with the following entries or are they just for use in the loader.conf file? hint.acpi.0.disabled=0 # enable ACPI (i386 only) hw.ata.ata_dma=1 # enable IDE DMA hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 # enable ATAPI/IDE DMA hw.ata.wc=1# enable IDE disk write cache hw.eisa_slots=0# disable probing for EISA devices To quote /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC: #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints GENERIC.hints #Default places to look for #devices. The disadvantage of this approach is that you cannot change any hints after you have compiled the kernel, unless you compile again everytime you change one of the hints... I'm not sure this is a wise thing to do, but as you see, it's perfectly possible. =) If your device-hints aren't like to change it's quite safe, but I don't think your system's going to boot faster or something like that. Anyway, just write all of your device-hints to a file of your choice and add --- hints your_device_hints.hints --- to your kernel-config, make kernel, reboot and enjoy. =) I'm not entirely sure, but to be on the safe side, you probably place the hints-file in the folder of your kernel-config (/usr/src/sys/arch/conf). Thanks! Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope it helps, kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange connect attempts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, Under FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE on i386 I get lots of kernel messages like this one: Feb 7 12:38:01 neuromancer kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:49383 /etc/services has this to say on Port 512/udp: biff512/udpcomsat #used by mail system to notify users Is there any way I can get rid of these messages? From the fact they show up on my console, I assume port 512 is not open. Should I open it? The machine is on a local network with me being the only user, so security considerations aren't that important, really. =) On the other hand, what do I need it for? I'd rather have it just shut up. Any hints? Thank you very much, kind regards, Benjamin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFAJNEv/JWwsvZUqOwRAgDSAKCwb7MWx7N9mG+SSCK2f2ir5yLwHgCgghwR 3x7Wf9/ROmo2RIju7jUbNi0= =7a3+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange connect attempts
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:19:12 -0500 JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First the message you are getting is issued by the log-in-vain sysctl knob. [...] Best advice is disable Log-in-vain, and let system continue to function as normal without this Log-in-vain bug causing you any more false log messages problems. Thanks a lot, I disabled log_in_vain for tcp and udp in /etc/sysctl.conf. Thank you very much, Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XDMCP and starting XFree on boot
Hello everybody, I am currently trying to set up an XDMCP-remote-login. I have two machines at home, but only one screen, so I want to be able to log into both machines via xdm. So far I've set up the headless machine to run xdm and added * CHOOSER BROADCAST to Xacces on that machine. It works. Now I want the desktop machine (the one that's running the X-Server) to a) start xdm on boot (but without starting XFree) and b) then start XFree an request a CHOOSER from the headless machine. Both steps work fine, when done manually. But so far I've been unable to start both on boot. I've added the following lines to /etc/rc.conf.local: --- /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm /usr/X11R6/bin/X -indirect 192.168.0.1 --- When the system boots, I get an error message like /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm: command not found. Then X starts up, I get the CHOOSER, and my local machine is even listed - but when I want to log in on my local machine, all I get is an empty screen. When I want to log into the remote machine, I get a login-screen, but apparently the keyboard does not react. I cannot even switch to console, the only keys that work are Ctrl+Alt+Del... The first part's probably easy: rc.conf.local is probably being run before /usr is mounted. This explains why I can't login to the local machine. But then... why is XFree fired up? I even get the CHOOSER, so it's even run correctly... And in that case, xdm should work, too. Except for the case that /usr was being mounted *while* rc.conf.local is being run - which I find hard to believe. I'm really confused here... =) I thought of writing rc-scripts for both services so they are started in proper order... Are there solutions involving less work? Thank you very much, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: latency
Hello, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:29:23 +0600 Stas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, How much is latency in FreeBSD? I would like to listen music playing on FreeBSD PC with hi-fi sound. First I need to be sure the system latency is low enough. It depends. a) Where does the music come from? CD, MP3, WAV, MIDI? b) What kind of machine do you have? If you want to play Audio-CDs, you can often plug headphones or speakers to the front-panel of a CD-drive. Otherwise you need a sound card, either on-board or as an add-on-card. Also, if you want to list to MP3, your machine has to be fast enough (P100 and faster, if I am not mistaken) On my machine, I listen to MP3s a lot. It's an Athlon XP 2400+ with 256MB RAM and a Soundblaster 64 or 128 PCI, running FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE: playing MP3s has almost no visible effect on system performance. The sounds gets laggy, when the system is under *really heavy* load. But I mean extremely heavy - compiling programs or rebuilding the system has no notable effect. =) Also, I store my MP3s on a second machine and share them with my desktop-machine via NFS, so if I put the network under heavy load, playback gets laggy, too, sometimes. But the network only consists of the two machines (the other one is Athlon 700 / 160 MB RAM / NetBSD 1.6.2_RC4) connected via 100Mbit-Ethernet, so this happens very rarely, too. If your machine is fast enough, and if you have a soundcard that works with FreeBSD, you should have no trouble listening to music. If you have a soundcard installed, you just need to add the line device pcm to your kernel-config, recompile the kernel and there you go. Now all you need is a program to play music. I use xmms (www.xmms.org, or you can install it via ports, too). Back in summer, I had FreeBSD 5.0 installed on a Pentium III 450 with 256 MB RAM, listening to MP3s was fine, too. And both machines are *far* above the minimum requirements. A Pentium 133 with 64MB RAM should be sufficient, unless you want to run big boys alongside (KDE, Mozilla, ...) I am not quite sure what you mean by latency, but FreeBSD is a multi-user, multi-tasking operating system, so even with many things going on at the same time, music-playback works fine, if your machine is fast enough. -- Best regards, Stas Kind regards, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GDBE and USB-sticks? [was: GBDE and file-backed filesystems?]
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:59:07 -0500 Michael W. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will trade links with you. Here is a link to an article describing GBDE on a USB ThumbDrive. If you are not bound by a privacy request, please post the link to the patch you mention above. Thank you very much! Uh, I would have posted the URL, now that I'm at home, but since it's already been posted by Mr. Pernfuss, ... I refer to his reply. =) I've tried setting up up an encrypted USB-stick, and it works. The tutorial explains how to encrypt the entire stick. Thanks! Well, I've got thank you. =) Kind regards, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can FreeBSD Install damage an NTFS Partition
Hello, On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:36:06 -0500 James R. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - can a FreeBSD install in free space on the second drive somehow damage an NTFS partition on the first drive? Has this happened to anyone else? Well, I can't tell you for sure, but chances are pretty small in my experience. I've been keeping no less than three operating systems on a single hdd for quite some time no, and even four have been working in parallel for months, with lots of reinstalls. I actually use one primary OS (Linux, now I'm considering a migration to FreeBSD), windows for games, and one to two OS'es to toy around with, among these Free- (both 4.9 and 5.2), Net- (1.6.1) and OpenBSD (3.2 and 3.4). No problem whatsoever. Especially not of the kind you were facing. So the chances of the installer killing your windows by accident are really low, I'd say. It might have killed windows by some mistake of yours (you sound like you know what you're doing, but nobody's perfect...), though I don't think so, since you didn't even install FreeBSD to the same hdd. Maybe, just maybe, you tried to access the ntfs-partition in read/write-mode by accident from either Linux or FreeBSD? Write-support for NTFS is still considered experimental, in both systems. Otherwise I would rather suspect windows of killing itself - it looks like too smart an action for windows to take, but it's known to do that, sometimes. Well, 9x/ME is. But Win2k seems to very stable for a windows, unless some worm or virus has found its way to your system... Maybe something with the bootloader? But you say, windows BSOD'ed you, so you must have been past the bootloader. By now it's too late, but you could have compared the wrecked NTFS-system and the backups you've made to find out what has changed. ;-/ If it was FreeBSD's fault, I think it might have been the bootloader. I don't know how well FreeBSD boots of other hdd's than the first (Windows simply does't, for example), maybe it tried to install its bootloader to the first hdd before noticing that's not where FreeBSD was... On the other hand, that sounds strange, too. Kind regards, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Memory disks
Hi all I was just reading the man page for md I need to know how to create a 60mg memory disk that is RW what is the cmds? Thankyou Jer Hello, For version 5.x the corresponding command is mdmfs (man 8 mdmfs). Towards the bottom of the man-page you find some examples that should make it rather easy to set up a memory disk (I use a 32mb-disk for /tmp, very useful). If you are using 4.x, I'm not sure. Look up man 4 md and look at See also, at the bottom of the page. Kind regads, Benjamin -- +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ Bis 31.1.: TopMail + Digicam für nur 29 EUR http://www.gmx.net/topmail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GBDE and file-backed filesystems?
Hello everybody, I've recently installed FreeBSD 5.2 on my desktop machine. I like FreeBSD very much, I did not make it my primary OS, so far, because of some issues. Among these was the cryptoloop-device I had been using under GNU/Linux, which I used for storing my diary. If I am going to make FreeBSD my primary OS, I need that functionality from FreeBSD, too. Now I read in the manual, that FreeBSD features GBDE (GEOM Based Disc Encryption) for creating encrypted filesystem. I am not sure, however, if GBDE will work with filesystems that do not reside on a physical disc. Does anybody know? I've read the manual and man-pages, but they do not seem to answer my question... Thanks a lot, Kind regards, Benjamin -- +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ Bis 31.1.: TopMail + Digicam für nur 29 EUR http://www.gmx.net/topmail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GDBE and USB-sticks? [was: GBDE and file-backed filesystems?]
Hello once more, One of the readers has replied privately, telling me there's a patch for FBSD 5.x, mdcrypt, he also supplied me with a URL for downloading (thank you very much!). GDBE, he told me, would most probably not work on md-filesystems. But another thing came to my mind - is it possible to encrypt partitions on a USB-stick using GDBE? (If that worked, it would remove the need for encrypted md-files...) Thank you very much, kind regards, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Watching DVDs in 5.2
Hello everybody, I recently installed FreeBSD 5.2 on my Desktop machine. So far I am very pleased. I tried 5.0 in June, and I did not find it suitable for my needs, yet. Now the ISDN-card is gone from my machine and TV works in overlay-mode. =) So I am actually considering to make FreeBSD my primary OS on my desktop machine. There are some problems to be solved, though, most pressingly DVD-playback. ;-/ I installed mplayer and ogle via ports. They don't work... All I get is the following error message from mplayer: Playing DVD title 1 Reading disc structure, please wait... libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. Can't open VMG info! Mmmh... I would like to watch DVDs pretty much, so what can I do? I tried reinstalling them, I made sure libdvd* is installed properly... And, yes, /dev/dvd is a symbolic link to /dev/acd0 which again has chmod 666. Some more about the machine: uname -a: FreeBSD neuromancer.krylon.net 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #2: Mon Jan 12 18:25:33 CET 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEUROMANCER i386 relevant parts of /var/run/dmesg.boot: atapci0: VIA 82C686B UDMA100 controller port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0 atapci0: Correcting VIA config for southbridge data corruption bug ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] result of 'atacontrol info 1': Master: no device present Slave: acd0 LITEON DVD-ROM LTD122/IL5A ATA/ATAPI rev 0 I'm afraid the problem is more application- or library-related... Who can give me a hint? Kind regards, Thank you very much, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Watching DVDs in 5.2
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:40:53 -0500 Jeremy Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: I only get this message when I force my dvd drive into DMA when it would normally use PIO4. relevant parts of /var/run/dmesg.boot: atapci0: VIA 82C686B UDMA100 controller port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0 atapci0: Correcting VIA config for southbridge data corruption bug ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] Where are the listings for the drives? Ooops, sorry. Here we go: atapibus0 at pciide0 channel 1: 2 targets cd0 at atapibus0 drive 0: SONYCD-RW CRX120E, , 1.0j type 5 cdrom removable cd0: 32-bit data port cd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide0: secondary channel interrupting at irq 15 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 (using DMA data transfers) I'm afraid the problem is more application- or library-related... Who can give me a hint? I think you should put the drive into PIO and try again. Mmmh, I'll try... Thank you very much, Benjamin -- Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Watching DVDs in 5.2
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:53:05 +0100 Benjamin Walkenhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:40:53 -0500 Jeremy Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you should put the drive into PIO and try again. Mmmh, I'll try... Didn't work. I put it into PIO-mode, didn't work, I put it into UDMA-mode, didn't work. (atacontrol mode 0 BIOSPIO PIO4) Either the controller is causing a problem - dmesg.boot mentioned a data-corruption-bug...? Or it *is* a problem with some of the dvd-related libraries... Kind regards, Benjamin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mouse with scroll....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sonntag, 17. August 2003 22:10 Shantanu Mahajan wrote: here's my corresponding section Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse #Option Protocol MouseSystems Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Note: If I uncomment Protocol line, it won't work. Rt. now it is working _perfectly_. Hello Shantanu, Thank you very much, my mouse wheel *does* work perfectly, too, now! =) Kind regards, and thanks a lot, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/QdMXoYumWdMvhMQRAqzOAKCB/Dpw2pIvHyvt96sLfNfPIqTYCQCgjsJf oKRxT2MqpH0HnhRqosY94Ls= =C0AG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Graphics card not recognized - Was: Re:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 18. August 2003 22:42 Ken Copling wrote: hello i bought freebsd desktop edition and it didnt reconize my graphics card so now i need to know what would be a powerful graphics card to install on my system that it will reconize Hello, First of all, it would be nice to know what version of FreeBSD you are using, what kind of machine you run it on (or want to run it on)... As for you graphics card, check www.freebsd.org for a list supported hardware. In general, most recent graphics cards should work with FreeBSD; this does not depend on FreeBSD alone, though, your graphics card has to be supported by XFree86 most probably, so you want to check www.xfree.org or what their web-site is. xfree.org or xfree86.org, I think. If I was to get a new graphics adapter, I'd choose something by Matrox or a GeForce-based card. Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/QdQhoYumWdMvhMQRAkb/AJ0fFN0tyTNgDwqHuNQyLpBdJHInKACff3wd BZWoVRG8FPljUrOotmH800Y= =o3WR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DSL + USB-WLAN-Adapter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, I finally managed to talk my parents into getting DSL. To avoid putting cables all over the house (our NTBA is in the basement, my parents' pc is in the first story, mine in the second) we consider getting a hardware router* with WLAN. These typically use small USB-adapters to connect to the pc. Has anyone experience with these under FreeBSD? Do they work at all? Or is this vendor-dependent? Any models or vendors you can recommend? Thanks in advance, Benjamin * Unfortunately I do not have a spare pc to use as router/firewall... - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/QmRjoYumWdMvhMQRAndNAJ90mAZrsEmBUjb73FlALPAk9CSnXwCfSEUT 5GrLAjZZiFb1+4+YN4oQVfo= =W18L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAM increase + swap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 09:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If I put in additional 256MB RAM module ontop my already 256MB system, don't I need to increase the /swap partition size? Current swap is only at 512 (mem x 2). How do you resize a partition inside a freebsd slice, btw? Hello, 1) Increasing the swap-partitions size will be hard to impossible, I'm afraid 2) You probably don't need to, anyway. Did you watch how much of your swap space ever becomes utilized? You would have to push your machine really hard in order to make it run out of swap. Unless you need the swap space for crashdumps, 512MB swap should be *more* than sufficient. FreeBSD has excellent memory managment, and nowadays you don't need as much swap as you did some years ago. But you can specify different locations for crashdumps (if I am not mistaken). Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/Qy8/oYumWdMvhMQRAgqEAJ967MB0HB3cBf+c8+dnPOsSTtmMKQCeNLNP fE6pMaetcWOzvi9To6e5Eac= =nfyl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Samstag, 16. August 2003 09:57 Alastair G. Hogge wrote: And what filesystem does FreeBSD use? I believe it's Berkeley Fast File System. or Unix File System 2(not sure someone might correct me)...or a combition of the two..? The Filesystem was created at Berkeley and called Berkeley Fast Filesystem, but commercial Unix-vendors adopted it and called it Unix Filesystem (UFS). But it is basically the same filesystem, I understand (Linux uses the same driver to read both, though you gotta specify some mount parameters). Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/PoIOoYumWdMvhMQRAvn4AJ9PIoPCfsG7v01Tp4I/vbVtSg9D/ACeLi8w zCR25OrBh0OQ2a/ZrnPdiuw= =Purv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse with scroll....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, On Sonntag, 17. August 2003 01:52 Joshua Oreman wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 03:31:40AM +0400 or thereabouts, Denis wrote: Hi All!!! Does anybody know how in freebsd use mouse with 3 button and one scroll? --snip /etc/XF86Config (or /etc/X11/XF86Config)-- Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol ImPS/2 # you need this # ... Option Buttons 3 # and this ^ Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # and this EndSection --snip-- Don't you need to enter a device-file as well? My XF86Config contains a line - --- Option Device/dev/sysmouse - --- To get the mouse wheel working, I have to change that line, too, don't I? What do I have to put there? /dev/psm0? -- Josh Thanks in advance, kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/P1rMoYumWdMvhMQRArb/AKCOih/3tIRWDv++WHzwHG9OpuecUwCdHZq6 UYEUa42vVRVwlx2spcaLvIY= =hIl7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi Quick question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 21:00 Viktor Lazlo wrote: Is there a command to browse files by pages? When ever I ls in a If you are new to the shell and looking for something to ease the transition between Windows and the console try installing mc I agree, midnight commander is very easy to use, pretty powerful, and it allows you to look inside tarballs and navigate them just like directories. It also includes a file viewer which automatically filters some file types (html, dvi, ...). kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/O/8ooYumWdMvhMQRAqVlAJ9L+v0uYsTklF+IrKhUkZ38f0polwCfaKFH 1pCvHz7sDAMlrnmL4atCSeI= =ZLqf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing NetBSD-packages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, Since my ISDN-card does not work on FreeBSD (so far), I am unable to connect to the internet from FreeBSD, so I am largely unable to access the ports tree. Now I got hold of a six-CD-set of NetBSD-1.6 + lots of packages. I installed it on my machine, but I think I like FreeBSD-5.x better (easier to use and configure, plus I got The Complete FreeBSD lying around). I've heard great things about binary compatibility between the three BSD-systems, so I thought, maybe I can just install the NetBSD-packages on my FreeBSD-system? Has anyone ever tried something like this? Did it work? How does this work performance-wise? Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/PQoLoYumWdMvhMQRAsXUAJ4qTuegntpAnQODV2TBdcuKToOOMwCcDCiL Y7fcyKg95p5GC/oqUXEUEqo= =lLYJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: executable folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 10:00 Anil Garg wrote: Hi, As exectuable file means it can be executed by './' ..but whats the significance of and executable directory (i.e a director with executable rights). An executable folder can be entered by cd $FOLDER. If you want to do cd $FOLDER on a folder without executive permission, you will get cd: no permission. Thanks and regards Anil. Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/O1oroYumWdMvhMQRAr4yAJwNcihLdMgGbeJ1Qz/hOCmneCwHMwCgjWX6 xhqiqYSSRnsf1TDVnOw5M0s= =sP9u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi Quick question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Samstag, 9. August 2003 05:52 Eric Murphy wrote: Is there a command to browse files by pages? When ever I ls in a big dir, I can't shift page up for some reason. This is very annoying =( ls (-lmo...) | less, respectively ls (options) | $PAGER Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/O18HoYumWdMvhMQRApkTAJ98/yogN6tZmc/bEeOHlRKyv3UwnwCbBr0a Y9vghxYXCQa1XAeB4A1UHR8= =vaZ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount NetBSD partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2. August 2003 22:35, Daan Goedkoop wrote: Hello, On my IDE disk, I have two disk labels, one of FreeBSD and one from NetBSD. Now that I want to change to NetBSD, I would like to copy my data from the NetBSD /home partition to FreeBSD. However, only a device /dev/ad1s3 exists, with which I can only mount the / of NetBSD. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Hello, Shouldn't the NetBSD-partitions show up like ad1s3a, s3b, ... ? Typically, sXa is /, sXb is swap, c and d are reserved, from there on it's up to you (e to p can be mounted wherever you want) - e is /usr, typically, but not necessarily. I am unsure, however, if corresponding device nodes have to exist, and which partition is identified by what letter from FreeBSD. FreeBSD ordinarily names the partitions by their order on the disk. NetBSD also has a - to my taste - excentric behaviour in naming partitions, much more untidy than with FreeBSD. NetBSD's / is always /dev/wdXa, no matter, at what position NetBSD's disklabel is on the disk (wd0a would be ad0s2a on FreeBSD). This shouldn't impact reading NetBSD's partitions from FreeBSD, though. Are they device nodes for each partition in your disklabel under FreeBSD? Hey, wait a moment, if you want to switch to NetBSD, why are you trying to move stuff from NetBSD's /home to your FreeBSD-disklabel (/home as well, I suppose)? Shouldn't it be the other way round? Or am I getting something wrong? In case you are really desperate, Linux reads disklabels from both Free- and NetBSD just fine; unless you use UFS2 with FreeBSD, that is (if you do, prepare for lots of funny read-errors...). It's just a little tricky to figure out what device-nodes to use for BSD's partitions, they typically show up like logical partitions in extended DOS partitions (/dev/hda5 and upwards) Hope it helps, kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/LE5EoYumWdMvhMQRAjqVAJ9FK/BbjQjgyjC0Hd3Ud16P8UwCWQCgiS2r Sa3y9g6tAryPAxJnYGHGG0M= =uhLD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs - gnu, x ...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 1. August 2003 02:02, george donnelly wrote: thanks for the feedback. gui is not important, i guess i'm just looking for the neat features that everyone talks about - and with a minimum of resource usage as i would like to install it on a webserver as well so clients can use it over ssh. Remember, GNU Emacs (and XEmacs, too, I suppose) is at its core a lisp interpreter. Many of Emacs' popular features are actually not hard-wired into emacs, but are add-ons written in lisp (though emacs comes with a helluva lot of them...). The tiny emacs-clones just emulate its look and superficial behaviour is the same, but they lack much of emacs' extensibility and customizability. If you just look for a small, easy-to-use editor, zile or µemacs is for you. GNU Emacs, on the other hand, is not that bad ressource-wise. It takes a lot of hard disk space, yes. It takes quite a lot of RAM for an editor, but not that much, either (less than 10MB on my machine, usually). CPU usage is pretty low (my machine: PentiumIII 450) mostly. You can also run GNU emacs in server mode. Users wanting to use emacs do not start a new instance of emacs, but just attach their client-sessions to the emacs-server. The main advantage I see is memory saved, and also some relief on the disks, for emacs remains in RAM all the time. kind regards, Benjamin Walkenhorst - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/KrPjoYumWdMvhMQRAjllAJ48iNW1J8IZ6JBwBusbX557gMVm1wCcDipg O9yHNmExcVVk1W40g5eM/so= =Db1B -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs - gnu, x ...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 1. August 2003 00:22, george donnelly wrote: I'd like to start getting into emacs, but there are so many versions and variations that I'm not sure which one to install from ports, eg we have gnu emacs and xemacs. which emacs should i install, use and learn? If you want a GUI, try GNU Emacs or XEmacs. I prefer GNU Emacs, but I suggest you try both (if you are looking for a GUI). If you don't want a GUI, and if you are not looking for Emacs' massive extensibility, there are several curses-based lookalikes of Emacs, that share Emacs' look and feel, but do not feature its lisp interpreter, and thus much of its extensibility; on the other hand, they tend be more... ressource-friendly than emacs. Among these smaller versions I know of zile (zile is lossy emacs) and µemacs (micro emacs), though I have tried neither. GNU Emacs comes with a tutorial (start emacs, then type Ctrl-h t to start the tutorial). A lot of what is said there applies to other versions as well. Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/Kan7oYumWdMvhMQRAqOyAJ9AgAY0r42x0+5dLcADyjDOGlIYWgCcC47k yf86BfOwbc3DjIGi28BrPak= =uRVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 28. July 2003 04:25, Karl Agee wrote: Ok, so, if you could buy only ONE of the currently available FreeBSD books, which one would it be??? First, you the handbook available both via www and on your local FreeBSD-installation (/usr/share/doc). If you feel like getting a printed book, I can recommend The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey. It is rather expensive for my taste ($ 45,-), but if you plan to work with FreeBSD professionally or for a longer time, it's definitely a worthy investment. I for one just like having printed books handy, in case my computer really freaks out and leaves without access to the handbook in html-format. --karl Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/JNEtoYumWdMvhMQRAvSWAJ9Sa3PYdVrY+qJRy0BwsGoQD1DOGQCgjj0/ iWtpS063o7xzZJ+/uFyK/OA= =N+u4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/psm0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 28. July 2003 13:40, DJ Landreneau wrote: As the original poster of this thread I feel compelled to provide some more information. I am running FreeBSD 5.0 that I obtained through the FreeBSD Unleased book I purchased from Barnes Noble. When I boot up FreeBSD and do ls -al on the /dev directory I do have busmouse or psm0 in the directory. Someone in an earlier reply to my post said this means that I do not have psm0 support in my kernel. I take it you wanted to say I do *NOT* have busmouse or psm0. FreeBSD 5.x uses devfs, i.e. it creates device nodes automatically for device-drivers present in the kernel. So if there is no /dev/psm0 this should mean that there is no PS/2-Mouse-Support present in the kernel. Therefore, I am in the process of researching building a custom kernel that will include support for the PS/2 mouse. If you haven't done so already, check the handbook (/usr/share/doc/language/books/handbook). You should also check /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and build your custom kernel file from that. Copy GENERIC to a new filename and edit, remove all the stuff you don't need (SCSI, probably, among others), add stuff you do need... I must admit that I am rather surprised that an advanced OS such as FreeBSD does not include support for PS/2 in its generic configuration. I use FreeBSD 5.0 with a PS/2 mouse on my machine, and the mouse worked happily from the first moment on. I don't think this is a problem with the PS/2-driver. I understand there is a website on using FreeBSD on laptops. Maybe you should google for that, and maybe ask Sony, as well, if they have some experience regarding FreeBSD (or some other BSD) on the model you are using. There also was a website about using UNIX and UNIX-like systems on laptops, www.mobilix.org; unfortunately, the website is not available due to copyright reasons, but there is an eMail-link to the site's owner. Maybe he can give you a hint, as well. Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Benjamin Walkenhorst eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.krylon.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/JREKoYumWdMvhMQRAunFAJ9LXCPaJ0F+Rf1AcNUztsskWf3vfQCfRaCB a0R0tpY1i2D4k56PiirG5IU= =bZSL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus Scanners
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 24. July 2003 16:44, Schimcek, Derrick wrote: What are the best virus scanners for freebsd? While I don't know about virus scanners for *FreeBSD*, I use AntiVir on a GNU/Linux desktop box happily. I understand, there is a version for FreeBSD available as well as for many other OSes (including Open/NetBSD, as well). Licenses are free of charge for private users, I don't know about prices for non-private environments. It's available at www.hbedv.de kind regards, Benjamin - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/ICxaoYumWdMvhMQRAoBDAJ90V3uZrhjLTshZ7I/YQWXQ0uv5aACcCpWC dU9t+e+LpaIptlPeTWWVpwQ= =5g+a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISO9660/RockRidge transparent de-/compression
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, Linux comes with a nice feature - well, actually it's only of limited use, but for certain situations it's *very* useful: Before creating an iso9660-image, you can compress the file tree; you then create the iso-image in the ordinary way and write it to cd/cd-rw. When you read the cd, newer versions of Linux (2.4.16+, I think) can transparently decompress the files on the cd; you get to see the files normally, they just take less space on the cd. (For files that already are compressed, like .tar.[bz2|gz] or mp3 audio, jpg images and so on, this rarely works, of course, but it's great for plain text, like html, source code, scripts, ...) The reason this is useful to me is this: I regularly write backups on cd-rw; my cd-rw-writer can rewrite only at 2x-speed. Which really sucks if you have to store several hundred megabytes of data. ;-/ Using transparent de-/compression can save me some space on the rw and thus some time. Unfortunately, the documentation of cdrtools-2.00 and zisofs-tools-1.0.4 says, currently only Linux is capable of transparently reading such cds. Does anyone know if this will become a feature of FreeBSD one day? I would really appreciate that... =) Kind regards, Benjamin Walkenhorst - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/GTBYoYumWdMvhMQRArbRAJ9wJNlpz4GlKfd+0fWOLRXzTpGKpwCfWBxK 9h+PlpTd1/TpOCKSPeduZy0= =tkS2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Complete FreeBSD the same as the online handbook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 16. July 2003 12:50, dick hoogendijk wrote: I have a question: The complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey seems to be very good documentation on FreeBSD and it's mentioned often in this NG. Am I right to assume that this is the printed equivalent of the online handbook? If not, how can I obtain a printed copy of the handbook other than printing it myself (something I don't want to do ;-)) The Complete FreeBSD is *not* a printed version of the online-handbook shipped with FreeBSD. I cannot tell you where *exactly* the differences are, but I always like having a printed book handy, in case something goes really wrong and leaves me unable to access the online handbook. The Complete FreeBSD is quite a good book, in my opinion. If you - like me - - like having a real book around, I can recommend this one. It is available via... well, book stores. I got mine via amazon.de, but you can probably order a copy in any book store that has O'Reilly books. Or you can order via freebsdmall.com or something like that, check www.freebsd.org for sources. The drawback is the price, The Complete FreeBSD comes for $ 45.00 (I got it cheaper because of the euro being at ~1.14 US-Dollars at the time), but if you plan to work with FreeBSD for some time, and if you aren't an a unix wizard, this book's really helpful. What I like about it, is that it's suitable both as a beginner's introduction and as a reference manual for more experienced users, so if you buy it, it will remain useful for some time. Hope to help, Kind regards, Benjamin Walkenhorst - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/FUnZoYumWdMvhMQRAu27AJ0QuZ0e5vwtRXLxDqPmVD+k90vANgCeNlCE 189+oIU+J3r1wLuZt9bw6gY= =TLEM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
extracting cd-audio to wav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, Is there some kind of program to digitally read audio-cds to wav-files under FreeBSD? Under GNU/Linux I use cdparanoia, which I have I've come to like very much, but cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001) refused to compile, using both FreeBSD's make and gmake using FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE (I later upgraded to 5.1 by installing the new source-tree and recompiling the system by make buildworld + make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNELCONFIG + reboot + make installworld, but the problem remains). I looked up the FAQ and found out cdparanoia doesn't run on FreeBSD currently. Can I use Linux binary emulation to run cdparanoia from my linux installation (/ and /usr are ext3, so I can read them from FreeBSD)? Or is there any program for FreeBSD which offers error correction similarly to cdparanoia? Or any cd-ripper at all? kind regards, Benjamin - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE/DqVeoYumWdMvhMQRAhv8AJ0SAQWH3ELCGPHY9e2882kMVKir8QCeO7sO t4u0LMWAR+SC0/bdvuRT2Dc= =HxME -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdm on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 27. June 2003 05:40, Chris wrote: Hiya - What file might I modify to enable kdm to start on bootup? And what might that line look like. The file you have to change is /etc/ttys The corresponding entry in my /etc/ttys looks like this: ttyv8 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm off secure So you probably just have to replace /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon with the path to kdm plus options you want to give. Hope it helps, Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE++/3doYumWdMvhMQRAicGAJ4qf/nm5MFd/R1Iv8oKrSIn1umZxwCfbre8 +k1ofKlKwDoWbK61+U1leYc= =iUnk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdm on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 27. June 2003 15:15, Chris wrote: The corresponding entry in my /etc/ttys looks like this: ttyv8 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm off secure No - did you also change off to on? Tell your kernel to reread /etc/ttys (among others): Ahhh, my bad,. I didn't set the off to on. Thanks much to all that offered me answers on this one. Uh, that was my bad as well. ;-/ I wonder why my entry in /etc/ttys was set to off (h, it really makes me wonder...). What makes me wonder is that xdm *does* start up correctly on my machine... I can only think of Linux having problems reading UFS-partitions, but I cannot really imagine Linux coming up with such *weird* read-errors... Well, I'm glad your problem is solved now, Kind regards, Benjamin - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE+/FpioYumWdMvhMQRAkvaAJwP5EnGM+pKqp+wHd+OdYbx3P7+WQCcCIeg XauMk53AyIYrikvX2BSMiXE= =R7DI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommendations on new hardware
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, The PC I currently own looks about like this: Pentium III 450MHz 256MB RAM Motherboard by Siemens (I think so, though I am not entirely certain), with a VIA82C686 chipset and just *3* PCI slots (one of them shared with ISA) 2 hard disks (both by IBM, 80 and 30 Gig), 2 CD-drives (Sony 4x/2x/24x CD-RW, LiteOn 12x/40x DVD-ROM) The main problem with this setup is the motherboard, which sucks quite a lot. The first problem I have is the limited number of PCI slots available. I own an AVM A1 which occupies the ISA slot of the board; the ISA slot is shared with one of the PCI slots, which leaves me with just *two* free PCI slots, which are occupied by my sound card (Terratec XLerate or something, Aureal Vortex 8820 chipset) and my TV card (Hauppauge WinTV Go, Brooktree 878 chipset). I still do have a Videologic DVD decoder card I would like to use and I would also like to have an ethernet card. So I need a board with at least two more PCI slots (plus an ISA slot, or I need a new ISDN card). The second problem: I got a 19 screen recently. So I increased my desktop resolution to 1280x1024. Now whatching TV and listening to MP3s at the same time makes my machine crash (PCI bus freezes probably). The third problem is my BIOS: Linux, FreeBSD *and* Windows 2000 don't recognize my 80GB-harddisk, they only see the first 32GB. What this comes down to is: I need a new motherboard. And I want to make sure it runs with both Linux and FreeBSD. It should be rock-solid-stable primarily and perform well, if possible. Nice features are alway welcome but have low priority. I thought of getting a board with the nForce2-chipset, but I think these aren't supported by FreeBSD, are they? Anyway, what do you recommend for a new motherboard? It should be able to deal with 384 to 512 MB of RAM (I am using FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE!) Thanks in advance, kind regards, Benjamin - -- Der Hoffnung beraubt sein, heißt noch nicht - verzweifeln. (Albert Camus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public Key available at http://www.krylon.de iD8DBQE+8tzUoYumWdMvhMQRAiovAJ4laypDDLAL5RkG32AEPdr2TFnWAgCfWqOI cJm9mWeoAkd/ttRuwyF4yBA= =eGYi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
