mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page

2013-10-09 Thread Gary Aitken
For some strange reason, my 9.1 system seems to be missing the section 1
man page for tar, although everything else seems to be there.

I have an iso9660 image of 9.1 release which I tried to mount to copy
the missing file, but that didn't work (can't find the CD I burned...).
  
#mount -t cd9660 -o ro FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso /mnt/tmp
mount_cd9660: /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso: 
Block device required

Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without
burning an actual disc?

Gary
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Re: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page

2013-10-09 Thread Gary Aitken
On 10/09/13 21:25, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:22 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without
 burning an actual disc?
 
 Of course. :-)

I guess knowing it's possible is a start;
couldn't figure out where to look to get the magic combination.

 It is possible by using a virtual node connected to the
 ISO file. Without having tested, according to your example:
 
   # mdconfig -u 0 -t vnode -f 
 /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

for the record, that's:
  mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f file

   # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp
   ... do stuff ...
   # umount /mnt/tmp
   # mdconfig -u 0 -d

and that one is
  mdconfig -d -u 0

order appears to be important

Thanks again,

Gary
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Re: firefox: getting back several URL's as tabs?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 10/02/13 14:49, Gary Kline wrote:

   well, it just happened again.  when I closed an unwanted URL, the
   other two instances of firefox vanished.  I know the Hard way of
   getting them all back, but does is there an easy way of refilling 
   both browsers?  oh, and if there is somewhere I can click to save 
   my bookmarks by-hand, please let me know   before my shoulder
   falls off!

Usually, if it crashes, just starting up will do it.
It should ask about restoring the previous session, 
or at least mine did the last time (quite a while ago)

To save and restore bookmarks:
  Bookmarks/Show All Bookmarks
  In the window that appears, check out the Import and Backup... menu item.
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firefox: getting back several URL's as tabs?

2013-10-02 Thread Gary Kline
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guys,

well, it just happened again.  when I closed an unwanted URL, the
other two instances of firefox vanished.  I know the Hard way of
getting them all back, but does is there an easy way of refilling 
both browsers?  oh, and if there is somewhere I can click to save 
my bookmarks by-hand, please let me know   before my shoulder
falls off!

thanks in advance,

gary



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Re: after pkgng update, daily run still using pkg_info

2013-09-30 Thread Gary Aitken
 On 09/30/13 07:15, Mathew Seaman wrote:
 On 09/28/13 10:52, Gary Aitken wrote:
 After switching to pkgng, I
 noticed that my daily run output constantly complains about the
 installed packages being corrupt, e.g.: pkg_info: the package
 info for package 'asciidoc-8.6.8_1' is corrupt
 
 The problem is with etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes 
 which is still using pkg_info instead of pkg info
 
 Was this script supposed to be automatically updated as part of
 the conversion?  What's the right way to upgrade this on a 9.1
 release system?  Or should I just edit the script by hand and be
 done with it?
 
 On 09/28/13 13:57, Mark Felder wrote: Run pkg_info. If there is
 anything listed you have not fully converted to pkgng and have some
 old broken/corrupt packages. You'll want to clean this up.
 
 What does clean this up mean, and how does one go about it, given
 the system is converted to using pkgng?  There is no
 /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 
 Some of the packages reported as corrupt were installed *after* the 
 conversion to pkgng, so why is pkg_info even noticing them? pkg
 info reports 705 packages installed, and installs and re-installs 
 using portmaster seem to be working.  pkg_info reports 14 good 
 packages and 658 corrupt packages.  If pkg_info is picking up
 packages installed after the conversion, why doesn't the sum of good
 and corrupt packages equal the number pkg reports?
 
 It was my understanding that after switching to pkgng, the pkg_* cmds
 should no longer be used.  If that's the case, shouldn't the daily
 script have been modified by the upgrade process?

 Yes, you're correct that the pkg_info command should no longer be used
 after pkgng-ifying your system.  Not because it's harmful or lead to any
 sort of breakage but simply because it won't return any meaningful
 information.
 
 Ideally, there shouldn't really be any of the old style package metadata
 left in /var/db/pkg after running pkg2ng but the conversion process may
 occasionaly stumble over the odd port or two.  (In which case force the
 port in question to re-install.  If you're using a package repository,
 that's 'pkg install -f pkgname' -- otherwise, just
 use the normal portmaster / portupgrade command you'ld have used pre-pkgng.)

thanks.
I was a bit confused; the ones that need to be reinstalled are the
ones which pkg_info does *not* complain about.
So now the daily/490.status-pkg-changes script will complain about all
of them :-)  Consistency is good.

 If you are a portmaster user be aware that it does store various bits to
 do with managing distfiles in /var/db/pkg/pkgname-ver/ subdirectories.
 These shouldn't be confused with old style pkg_install metadata -- the
 distinguishing feature is if they contain a +CONTENTS file.
 
 As to why pkg2ng doesn't disable pkg_install related periodic jobs --
 pretty much because no one has implemented that. pkg comes with it's own
 set of periodic job scripts which should give you the equivalent set of
 reports via the pkg local database, so all we'd need to do is turn off
 any old pkg_install script and turn on the pkg equivalent.
 
 I've just created a new issue on github for that:
 
 https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/599
 
 Patches -- or even better, pull requests -- are welcome.

Thanks for the clarification.
Bit of a delay responding because something's screwed up with my mail service.

It's been a while since I converted, so I'm fuzzy on what pkg2ng actually did.
However, 
  $ which pkg
  /usr/sbin/pkg
  $ pkg info pkg
  pkg-1.1.4_6
  $ pkg which /usr/sbin/pkg
  /usr/sbin/pkg was not found in the database

I was trying to find the set of pkg's own periodic job scripts but I don't
see them, and I'm not really sure what to look for.  I tried grepping for
similarly numbered 490.status and similarly named status-pkg-changes 
and came up empty, although I see the file 490.status-pkg-changes.in in 
the distfile.

Questions:

1. Is there some reason pkg which doesn't find itself?
2. Where is pkg supposed to install its own set of periodic job scripts
   and what do the names look like?
3. After reinstalling the ports reported by pkg_info as ok, 
   one of them,
 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28
   reinstalls fine but when done 
 /var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-2.8.12_2
   still contains old format files:
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 45 Aug 26 22:43 +COMMENT
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   3609 Aug 26 22:43 +CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel178 Aug 26 22:43 +DESC
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  17553 Aug 26 22:43 +MTREE_DIRS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel137 Sep 30 13:54 distfiles

Is it safe to simply delete the first four?

Wasn't sure whether to file a bug on this or not, so I haven't.

Gary

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Re: after pkgng update, daily run still using pkg_info

2013-09-29 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/28/13 10:52, Gary Aitken wrote:
 After switching to pkgng, I noticed that my daily run output constantly
 complains about the installed packages being corrupt, e.g.:
   pkg_info: the package info for package 'asciidoc-8.6.8_1' is corrupt
 
 The problem is with
   etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes
 which is still using pkg_info instead of pkg info
 
 Was this script supposed to be automatically updated as part of the
 conversion?  What's the right way to upgrade this on a 9.1 release
 system?  Or should I just edit the script by hand and be done with it?

On 09/28/13 13:57, Mark Felder wrote:
 Run pkg_info. If there is anything listed you have not fully converted
 to pkgng and have some old broken/corrupt packages. You'll want to clean
 this up.

What does clean this up mean, and how does one go about it, given the
system is converted to using pkgng?  There is no /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db

Some of the packages reported as corrupt were installed *after* the
conversion to pkgng, so why is pkg_info even noticing them?
pkg info reports 705 packages installed, and installs and re-installs
using portmaster seem to be working.  pkg_info reports 14 good
packages and 658 corrupt packages.  If pkg_info is picking up packages
installed after the conversion, why doesn't the sum of good and corrupt
packages equal the number pkg reports?

It was my understanding that after switching to pkgng, the pkg_* cmds should
no longer be used.  If that's the case, shouldn't the daily script have been
modified by the upgrade process?

Gary
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Re: after pkgng update, daily run still using pkg_info

2013-09-29 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/28/13 10:52, Gary Aitken wrote:
 After switching to pkgng, I noticed that my daily run output constantly
 complains about the installed packages being corrupt, e.g.:
   pkg_info: the package info for package 'asciidoc-8.6.8_1' is corrupt
 
 The problem is with
   etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes
 which is still using pkg_info instead of pkg info
 
 Was this script supposed to be automatically updated as part of the
 conversion?  What's the right way to upgrade this on a 9.1 release
 system?  Or should I just edit the script by hand and be done with it?

On 09/28/13 13:57, Mark Felder wrote:
 Run pkg_info. If there is anything listed you have not fully converted
 to pkgng and have some old broken/corrupt packages. You'll want to clean
 this up.

What does clean this up mean, and how does one go about it, given the
system is converted to using pkgng?  There is no /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db

Some of the packages reported as corrupt were installed *after* the
conversion to pkgng, so why is pkg_info even noticing them?
pkg info reports 705 packages installed, and installs and re-installs
using portmaster seem to be working.  pkg_info reports 14 good
packages and 658 corrupt packages.  If pkg_info is picking up packages
installed after the conversion, why doesn't the sum of good and corrupt
packages equal the number pkg reports?

It was my understanding that after switching to pkgng, the pkg_* cmds should
no longer be used.  If that's the case, shouldn't the daily script have been
modified by the upgrade process?

Gary
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after pkgng update, daily run still using pkg_info

2013-09-28 Thread Gary Aitken
After switching to pkgng, I noticed that my daily run output constantly
complains about the installed packages being corrupt, e.g.:
  pkg_info: the package info for package 'asciidoc-8.6.8_1' is corrupt

The problem is with
  etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes
which is still using pkg_info instead of pkg info

Was this script supposed to be automatically updated as part of the
conversion?  What's the right way to upgrade this on a 9.1 release
system?  Or should I just edit the script by hand and be done with it?

Gary

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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-26 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:47:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  dunno how you know im using the zsh, but yup.
 
 This is because of my magical allknowinglyness. :-)
 
 You wrote:
 
pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
zsh: command not found: vi!
   ^^^
 This gave me the impression you're using the Z shell.
 
 The C shell says:
 
   % vi!
   vi!: Command not found.
 
 And bash says:
 
   $ vi!
   bash: vi!: command not found
 
 So the shell that says zsh should be the Z shell, or a different
 shell that's just lying. :-)

Oh, n!  ive got to go hide my head in the sand for 25
years...   { it's so emmbarrassing!!}

 
   with the bang stuff
  if you do a 
  
  % !-3
  
  you go back three vi cmds.  !-N, N cmds. 
 
 Yes, this also works in C shell. You can use the h (or history)
 builtin command to get an impression of content of the last commands
 submitted to the shell.
 
 At least in csh,
 
   % !-1
 
 equals
 
   % !!
 
 and repeats the last command.
 
 You could use the following command to print the last 20 commands
 with the relative number (-1, -2, -3 and so on) printed infront of
 them:
 
   % history 20 | awk 'BEGIN {cmds=20} { printf(\t%2d\t%s\n, -(cmds-i), 
 $0); i++ }'
 
 It's probably a good idea to define an alias for that, like h20
 (history of last 20 commands).


my zsh does a default to 10  or so history with just 

% h 

I was trying to remember how to set it to ,, say, 100.  

I use as many zsh-isms as saves keystrokes.  thanks for that 
awk shortcut; ill use ir... :_)


 You could also use the zsh's equivalent of the precmd alias: It
 is a command that will be executed prior to displaying the shell
 prompt, so after you're done with a command, the last commands
 (maybe shortened to 10, just substitute the two appearances of
 the 20 to 10) will be displayed before the prompt appears;
 this will make it easier (and save keystrokes) to check the last
 commands and maybe repeat one.
 
 Downside: The command pollutes the list of commands with itself,
 so it should probably be grepped away.


good grief, man.  I just got up from a nap... can you re-word that? 
no, kidding.  I get it.  


(for as many centuries as ive been using vi [nvi], there are
*still* things I never had need to learn.  so it turns out that 
a lot of theses clever sh scripts are over my head   it
takes mins - hours to figure out.



 
   % history 20 | awk 'BEGIN {cmds=20} { printf(\t%2d\t%s\n, -(cmds-i), 
 $0); i++ }' | grep -v history
 
 It might be good to define a better exclusion pattern than just
 history because that might lead to false-positives. I'd suggest
 to rename the variables in the awk script to something unique and
 then grep for those instead...
 
I have grep -v aliased to grv.  
 
  thankfully there are shortcuts!
 
 And shell aliases. :-)
 
 
 
  ps: zsh is sort of a ksh clone; I remember porting the zsh onto
  my 286 in 1989.  got a lot of csh-isms :)
 
 The Z shell combines nice interactive features of the C shell
 (to be correct: the tcsh) and the scripting features of sh and
 bash. It's considered one of the most powerful shells. So it's
 a wise move to use it, because it combines the _good_ things of
 both worlds (and not the bad things, as the csh is a terrible
 scripting shell, just as plain sh is an awful dialog shell).
 
 
 
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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-26 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:05:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:51:32 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  my zsh does a default to 10  or so history with just 
  
  % h 
  
  I was trying to remember how to set it to ,, say, 100.  
 
 Depending on _typical_ terminal heights (100 lines?), this
 seems to be a bit high. But I assume zsh handles the h
 alias similarly to the csh, where an alias is defined
 (system-wide in /etc/csh.cshrc or per user in ~/.cshrc).
 Look for ~/.zshrc (if I remember correctly):
 
   alias   h   'history 25'
 
 and change it accordingly. An interactive change is also
 possible (but will only be kept for the current session).
 
 I also assume the zsh has some settings on how many commands
 should be kept in history. The system's /etc/csh.cshrc provides
 the csh's equivalent:
 
   set history = 100
   set savehist = 100


I'remember seeing this a long time ago.  in my ~/.zshrc I've got
iit in all CAPS. 



HISTFILE=~/.zhistory 
SAVEHIST='5000'
HISTSIZE=1000


got to google this; been tooo long since I glanced  at the code!


 
 Probably zsh has something similar.
 
 
 
  (for as many centuries as ive been using vi [nvi], there are
  *still* things I never had need to learn.  so it turns out that 
  a lot of theses clever sh scripts are over my head   it
  takes mins - hours to figure out.
 
 You notice that you're saying that to a programmer whose
 shell scripts are usually overcomplicated, dull, and could
 use lots of optimization? ;-)
 
;-)  
 
 % history 20 | awk 'BEGIN {cmds=20} { printf(\t%2d\t%s\n, -(cmds-i), 
   $0); i++ }' | grep -v history
   
   It might be good to define a better exclusion pattern than just
   history because that might lead to false-positives. I'd suggest
   to rename the variables in the awk script to something unique and
   then grep for those instead...
   
  I have grep -v aliased to grv.  
 
 If you're using that alias inside another alias, zsh (if it
 acts like csh) will expand it properly. Using such an alias
 in a one-time entry (as I'd consider an addition to a
 configuration file) still doesn't sound optimal regarding
 readability and maintainability. As if we would ever maintain
 our naturally grown (over centuries) configuration files... ;-)
 
 Still I think turning the example into a shell alias (h20) or
 assigning it (with 20 - 10) to the precmd alias could not
 be trivial, at least regarding the C shell, because lots of
 quoting and escaping would be needed; maybe zsh does not behave
 like a madman in this regards (unmatched this, unmatched that,
 sytax error, cannot expand, missing argument, blah ...). :-)
 
 
I'll be typing for 10 years before I'v saved the keystrokes ive
spent here

 
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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-26 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:05:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:51:32 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  my zsh does a default to 10  or so history with just 
  
  % h 
  
  I was trying to remember how to set it to ,, say, 100.  
 
 Depending on _typical_ terminal heights (100 lines?), this
 seems to be a bit high. But I assume zsh handles the h
 alias similarly to the csh, where an alias is defined
 (system-wide in /etc/csh.cshrc or per user in ~/.cshrc).
 Look for ~/.zshrc (if I remember correctly):
 
   alias   h   'history 25'
 
 and change it accordingly. An interactive change is also
 possible (but will only be kept for the current session).
 
 I also assume the zsh has some settings on how many commands
 should be kept in history. The system's /etc/csh.cshrc provides
 the csh's equivalent:
 
   set history = 100
   set savehist = 100
 
 Probably zsh has something similar.
 
FWIW, I just tried:

alias -- h='history 50'


works as it ought; last time I tried, the history quit 
after ~10.  [?]


 
  (for as many centuries as ive been using vi [nvi], there are
  *still* things I never had need to learn.  so it turns out that 
  a lot of theses clever sh scripts are over my head   it
  takes mins - hours to figure out.
 
 You notice that you're saying that to a programmer whose
 shell scripts are usually overcomplicated, dull, and could
 use lots of optimization? ;-)
 
 
 
 % history 20 | awk 'BEGIN {cmds=20} { printf(\t%2d\t%s\n, -(cmds-i), 
   $0); i++ }' | grep -v history
   
   It might be good to define a better exclusion pattern than just
   history because that might lead to false-positives. I'd suggest
   to rename the variables in the awk script to something unique and
   then grep for those instead...
   
  I have grep -v aliased to grv.  
 
 If you're using that alias inside another alias, zsh (if it
 acts like csh) will expand it properly. Using such an alias
 in a one-time entry (as I'd consider an addition to a
 configuration file) still doesn't sound optimal regarding
 readability and maintainability. As if we would ever maintain
 our naturally grown (over centuries) configuration files... ;-)
 
 Still I think turning the example into a shell alias (h20) or
 assigning it (with 20 - 10) to the precmd alias could not
 be trivial, at least regarding the C shell, because lots of
 quoting and escaping would be needed; maybe zsh does not behave
 like a madman in this regards (unmatched this, unmatched that,
 sytax error, cannot expand, missing argument, blah ...). :-)
 
 
 
 
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minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
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folks,

am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
you typed something like:

% vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]

to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  

TIA, y'all,

gary



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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:23:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
  you typed something like:
  
  % vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]
  
  to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
  shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  
 
 To repeat the last command, . can be used.
 
 The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
 according to man vi:
 
[Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
   Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.
 
 Is this what you're searching for?


I THOGoHT it was !, but lookit:


pts/14 17:11 tao [5010] vi sent
pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
zsh: command not found: vi!
pts/14 17:12 tao [5012]

...  this is vi == vim.  

AHA:: found it.  it's [bang]commant


pts/14 17:17 tao [5016] vi sent
pts/14 17:17 tao [5017] !v


I'll tell ya, if vi disappeared , I'd end it all!

tx.

gary






 Or do you refer to command lines where @: would repeat the

-N T- 34/41: P last command (started with :)?
 
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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:06:00AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:21:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
  Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.
  
  On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:23:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax 
where
you typed something like:

% vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]

to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  
   
   To repeat the last command, . can be used.
   
   The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
   according to man vi:
   
  [Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
 Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.
   
   Is this what you're searching for?
  
  
  I THOGoHT it was !, but lookit:
  
  
  pts/14 17:11 tao [5010] vi sent
  pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
  zsh: command not found: vi!
  pts/14 17:12 tao [5012]
  
  ...  this is vi == vim.  
  
  AHA:: found it.  it's [bang]commant
  
  
  pts/14 17:17 tao [5016] vi sent
  pts/14 17:17 tao [5017] !v
  
  
  I'll tell ya, if vi disappeared , I'd end it all!
 
 Ah, I see - you've been refering to repeating a _shell_
 command (so the question was regarding the shell, which
 in your case is Z shell).
 
 You can probably use (like in the C shell) the arrow keys
 to browse the command history. Similarly, you can use the
 !number command refering to the command number obtained
 by the history command. There's a handy alias defined
 globally for the C shell: h which means history 25
 (lists the last 25 commands), handy in regards of saving
 keystrokes. :-)
 
 I assume the zsh is also capable of filtered history:
 For example, you enter vi s and use the up and down
 arrow keys to browse all commands that have been entered
 starting with vi s (for example vi sent, vi stuff
 and so on). If the system's csh can do this, zsh should
 also provide this useful feature.
 
 And as your prompt pts/14 17:12 tao [5012] suggests,
 the command number is being shown. If this information
 is the same as the command number in the history, entering
 !5010 would execute the 2nd from last command.
 
 To repeat the last command, whatever it has been, !!
 can be used. Again, this works in csh, so I can't predict
 if it will work in zsh too, but I _assume_ it does.
 
dunno how you know im using the zsh, but yup.  with the bang stuff
if you do a 

% !-3

you go back three vi cmds.  !-N, N cmds. 

thankfully there are shortcuts!

gary

ps: zsh is sort of a ksh clone; I remember porting the zsh onto
my 286 in 1989.  got a lot of csh-isms :)


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howto kill x if x is running?

2013-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

guys, 

I've evidently had too many pain meds; this shelll script should 
be easy.  say that I have a utility xxx running sometimes.  xxx is
soaking up a chunk of my load.  I have to use top to find if
xxx is running, then kill -9 to kill xxx and have a steady load of,
say, between 0.10 and 0.15.  what's the script that can do this?

gary

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Re: howto kill x if x is running?

2013-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 07:56:17AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 15/09/2013 07:20, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  I've evidently had too many pain meds; this shelll script should 
  be easy.  say that I have a utility xxx running sometimes.  xxx is
  soaking up a chunk of my load.  I have to use top to find if
  xxx is running, then kill -9 to kill xxx and have a steady load of,
  say, between 0.10 and 0.15.  what's the script that can do this?
 
 The classic answer to this is that you need to find the pid of your
 'xxx' process, and then kill it using that.  Some combination of ps(1)
 and grep(1) usually sufficed.
 
 However nowadays there's the very handy pkill(1):
 
 pkill -9 xxx
 
 Tying that in with the trigger based on system load:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 load=$(sysctl vm.loadavg | cut -d ' ' -f 3)
 too_high=$(bc -e $load  0.15  /dev/null)
 
 if [ $too_high = '1' ]; then
 pkill -9 xxx
 fi
 
 Note the use of bc(1) to compare floating point values -- the built-in
 $((shell arithmetic)) or expr(1) only do integer arithmetic.
 
 One final point -- instead of killing the xxx process when the load gets
 too high, you could simply renice(1) it to very low priority.  Or even
 better, use idprio(1).
 
 This won't actually affect the system load values much as 'system load'
 is an average of the number of processes requesting a CPU time slice.
 What it does do is mean that your 'xxx' process is always pretty much
 the last process to get any CPU time -- so everything else should remain
 responsive, and your xxx process will only run when the system is
 otherwise idle.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew


thanks very much, gents.  no, it wasnt my med; it was that I slept
ttoo much:: Old age.  pkill -9 utility  works.  the 0.15 or 0.10
were arbitrrary.  the default load adverage should be even less
since the box is just sitting here!  ...well, it's replying to 
lookup, I suppose.  tx again, 

gary


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 JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk
 



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eclipse CDT UnsatisfiedLinkError: no spawner in java.library.path

2013-09-14 Thread Gary Aitken
Anyone using eclipse CDT?
When I start to compile something, I get the following error in the shell from
which eclipse was started:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no spawner in java.library.path
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1681)
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:840)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1047)
at org.eclipse.cdt.utils.spawner.ProcessFactory.init(ProcessFactory.java:39)
at 
org.eclipse.cdt.utils.spawner.ProcessFactory.getFactory(ProcessFactory.java:51)
at org.eclipse.cdt.core.CommandLauncher.execute(CommandLauncher.java:151)
at 
org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.internal.buildmodel.CommandBuilder.build(CommandBuilder.java:165)
...
snip

The last class (ProcessFactory) is in
  /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.cdt.core_5.1.2.201002161416.jar

Anyone know what the missing piece / magic is?

(The compile *seems* to work, reporting errors, responding to corrections, etc.,
but I'm pointing at a port and it's not working yet)

9.1 RELEASE, ports updated a day or two ago.
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which port (qt4 part?) contains linguist.dcf et al.?

2013-09-13 Thread Gary Aitken
Can someone tell me which port is the source for linguist.dcf and friends?

I have lprof-devel installed, but not the full qt4, and these files are 
missing so the lprof help doesn't work.  I suspect a missing dependency,
but would prefer not to install all of qt4 to find out.

Thanks.
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Re: which port (qt4 part?) contains linguist.dcf et al.?

2013-09-13 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/13/13 10:47, Chris Kelley wrote:
 Just a quick search through ports/x11-toolkits:
 
 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits # grep -R linguist.dcf *
 qt33/pkg-plist:share/doc/qt/html/linguist.dcf
 
 Looks to be x11-toolkits/qt33.

How old is your ports tree?
According to freshports it expired on 20130-7-01

# portmaster x11-toolkits/qt33

=== The x11-toolkits/qt33 port has been deleted: Has expired: No upstream 
activity since 2008; unmaintained
=== Aborting update

Is there an easy way to get the distfile when the port has been deleted?
Maybe the files have been moved to some qt4 port, but after doing a make 
extract on some of them I couldn't find them.

 On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote:
 
 Can someone tell me which port is the source for linguist.dcf and friends?

 I have lprof-devel installed, but not the full qt4, and these files are 
 missing so the lprof help doesn't work.  I suspect a missing dependency,
 but would prefer not to install all of qt4 to find out.

 Thanks.
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initialize msdosfs on memory stick?

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
I can't seem to find how to do this in the handbook or man pages.
I need to initialize a usb memory stick with an msdos file system.
Is it possible, or do I have to find a windoze system?
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Re: initialize msdosfs on memory stick?

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/12/13 15:51, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:39:26 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I can't seem to find how to do this in the handbook or man pages.
 I need to initialize a usb memory stick with an msdos file system.
 Is it possible, or do I have to find a windoze system?
 
 It is possible. The OS provides the newfs_msdos tool.
 There is no need to deal with Windows for this task.
 

Great, thanks.
I checked the newfs manpage but didn't look too carefully when the summary
line said construct a new UFS1/UFS2 file system

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Re: initialize msdosfs on memory stick?

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/12/13 16:26, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:13:11 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 09/12/13 15:51, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:39:26 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I can't seem to find how to do this in the handbook or man pages.
 I need to initialize a usb memory stick with an msdos file system.
 Is it possible, or do I have to find a windoze system?

 It is possible. The OS provides the newfs_msdos tool.
 There is no need to deal with Windows for this task.


 Great, thanks.
 I checked the newfs manpage but didn't look too carefully when the summary
 line said construct a new UFS1/UFS2 file system
 
 That's correct: newfs refers to newfs_ufs (which obviously
 initializes a UFS file system), but there are other newfs_*
 just as there are corresponding (and more) mount_* commands.
 
 See man newfs_msdos for more details.

I see that; but was surprised newfs didn't see-also newfs_msdosfs.

Anyhoo...  ugh, I think I just screwed it up, not thinking things through.

After doing 

# newfs_msdos -F 32 -S 4096 /dev/da0
newfs_msdos: trim 62 sectors to adjust to a multiple of 63
/dev/da0: 979584 sectors in 30612 FAT32 clusters (131072 bytes/cluster)
BytesPerSec=4096 SecPerClust=32 ResSectors=4 FATs=2 Media=0xf0 SecPerTrack=63 
Heads=255 HiddenSecs=0 HugeSectors=979650 FATsecs=30 RootCluster=2 FSInfo=1 
Backup=2

I can't mount it, and there are no partitions:

# ls /dev/da0*
/dev/da0
# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt/memstick
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument

Normally there is a /dev/da0s1.

I suspect I *should* have used /dev/da0s1 in the newfs_msdos cmd.

So, attempting to re-establish the partitions:

#gpart create -s MBR da0
da0 created
# gpart show -l da0
= 63  7837633  da0  MBR  (3.8G)
   63  7837633   - free -  (3.8G)
# gpart add -t mbr da0
gpart: Invalid argument

now what?
Is mbr the wrong kind of partition type?
man gpart indicates the MBR scheme requires the GEOM_PART_MBR kernel option;
since the create succeeded, I'm assuming this is present?

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Re: initialize msdosfs on memory stick?

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/12/13 17:52, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:
 
 I can't seem to find how to do this in the handbook or man pages. I
 need to initialize a usb memory stick with an msdos file system. Is
 it possible, or do I have to find a windoze system?
 
 Sure, it's possible.  For maximum compatibility, I'd suggest creating
 an MBR layout on it.  Some devices expect that.  Assuming it is da0
 (make sure) and that everything on it has been backed up...
 
 # gpart destroy -F da0 
 # gpart create -s mbr da0 
 # gpart add -t \!12 da0 
 # newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s1 

That worked, thanks.

Where is the magic file type !12 described?
I don't see it as one of the possibilities in man gpart.

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Re: initialize msdosfs on memory stick?

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/12/13 20:58, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:
 
 On 09/12/13 17:52, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:

 I can't seem to find how to do this in the handbook or man pages. I
 need to initialize a usb memory stick with an msdos file system. Is
 it possible, or do I have to find a windoze system?

 Sure, it's possible.  For maximum compatibility, I'd suggest creating
 an MBR layout on it.  Some devices expect that.  Assuming it is da0
 (make sure) and that everything on it has been backed up...

 # gpart destroy -F da0
 # gpart create -s mbr da0
 # gpart add -t \!12 da0
 # newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s1

 That worked, thanks.

 Where is the magic file type !12 described?
 I don't see it as one of the possibilities in man gpart.
 
 It's one of the many MS-DOS FAT variations:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_type

Not fair, that makes it really magic ;-)
Thanks
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lprof startup issue, QAssistantClient not found

2013-09-12 Thread Gary Aitken
After installing (and reinstalling) devel/lprof,
I keep getting the error:

The QAssistantClient executable was not found.  Make sure that 
 assistant(.exe)is located either in your PATH or in the $QTDIR/bin directory.  
 
 Help will not be availble until this is corrected.

I have both
  devel/qt4-assistant
  devel/qt4-assistant-adp
installed, but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

assistant-qt4 and assistant_adp both exist in /usr/local/bin

If I create a symbolic link of assistant to either of the assistant* 
executables I no longer get the error message, but no help shows up either...

ideas?
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trouble building lsof?

2013-09-01 Thread Gary Aitken
portsnap and update just done, 
UPDATING shows nothing, 
/etc/make.conf contains
  WITH_PKGNG=yes

#cd /usr/ports
#portmaster sysutils/lsof
 ...
=== All dependencies are up to date

===  Cleaning for lsof-4.88.d,8
===   lsof-4.88.d,8 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
=== Fetching all distfiles required by lsof-4.88.d,8 for building
===  Extracting for lsof-4.88.d,8
= SHA256 Checksum OK for lsof_4.88D.freebsd.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for lsof-4.88.d,8
===  Configuring for lsof-4.88.d,8
Creating ./lockf_owner.h from /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lockf.c
./lockf_owner.h creation succeeded.
rm -f ddev.c dfile.c dlsof.h dmnt.c dnode*.c dproc.c dproto.h dsock.c dstore.c 
dzfs.h kernelbase.h machine.h machine.h.old new_machi
ne.h __lseek.s Makefile Makefile.zfs ./tests/config.cflags
rm -f ./tests/config.cc ./tests/config.xobj ./tests/config.ldflags
Testing C library for localtime() and strftime(), using cc ... present
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dlsof.h dlsof.h
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dmnt.c dmnt.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dnode.c dnode.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dnode1.c dnode1.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dnode2.c dnode2.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dproc.c dproc.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dproto.h dproto.h
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dsock.c dsock.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dstore.c dstore.c
ln -s dialects/freebsd/dzfs.h dzfs.h
ln -s dialects/freebsd/machine.h machine.h
Makefile and lib/Makefile created.
Makefile.zfs created.
./tests/config.cc created
./tests/config.cflags created
./tests/config.ldflags created
./tests/config.xobj created
===  Building for lsof-4.88.d,8
(cd lib; /usr/bin/make DEBUG=-O2 CFGF=-pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DHASTASKS 
-DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE -DHASWCTYPE_H -
DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_VM_MEMATTR_T -DHAS_CDEV2PRIV 
-DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H -DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF
-DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DHAS_NO_6PORT -DHAS_NO_6PPCB -DNEEDS_BOOLEAN_T 
-DFREEBSDV=9000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6
 -DHASUTMPX -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VSTR=\9.1-RELEASE-p6\)
Constructing version.h
cc  -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DHASTASKS -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE 
-DHASWCTYPE_H -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS
1_2 -DHAS_VM_MEMATTR_T -DHAS_CDEV2PRIV -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H 
-DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF -DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DHAS_NO_6PORT -DHA
S_NO_6PPCB -DNEEDS_BOOLEAN_T -DFREEBSDV=9000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS 
-DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHASUTMPX -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VST
R=\9.1-RELEASE-p6\ -I/usr/src/sys -O2 -c dmnt.c
cc  -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DHASTASKS -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE 
-DHASWCTYPE_H -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS
1_2 -DHAS_VM_MEMATTR_T -DHAS_CDEV2PRIV -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H 
-DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF -DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DHAS_NO_6PORT -DHA
S_NO_6PPCB -DNEEDS_BOOLEAN_T -DFREEBSDV=9000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS 
-DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHASUTMPX -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VST
R=\9.1-RELEASE-p6\ -I/usr/src/sys -O2 -c dnode.c
cc  -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DHASTASKS -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE 
-DHASWCTYPE_H -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS
1_2 -DHAS_VM_MEMATTR_T -DHAS_CDEV2PRIV -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H 
-DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF -DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DHAS_NO_6PORT -DHA
S_NO_6PPCB -DNEEDS_BOOLEAN_T -DFREEBSDV=9000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS 
-DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHASUTMPX -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VST
R=9.1-RELEASE-p6 -I/usr/src/sys -O2 -c ckkv.c
In file included from /usr/include/_ctype.h:94,
 from /usr/include/ctype.h:46,
 from lsof.h:49,
 from dnode.c:39:
/usr/include/runetype.h:92: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or 
'__attribute__' before 'const'
/usr/include/runetype.h: In function '__getCurrentRuneLocale':
/usr/include/runetype.h:96: error: '_ThreadRuneLocale' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/usr/include/runetype.h:96: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only 
once
/usr/include/runetype.h:96: error: for each function it appears in.)
 ... bazillions more :-(

has to be something stupid on my part... hints?
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Re: trouble building lsof?

2013-09-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 09/01/13 20:34, ill...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 September 2013 22:32, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 September 2013 20:36, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:
 portsnap and update just done,
 UPDATING shows nothing,
 /etc/make.conf contains
   WITH_PKGNG=yes

 I don't know, but I have it set to use gcc46  it builds fine.

 Do you perhaps have
 WITH_CLANG_IS_CC=
 set?

 
 Check that.
 
 It builds fine with clang on 9.2-RC3.

strange.

#make build-depends-list
/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg

there are no dependencies other than bare system ones,
so it's doubly strange.

It's complaining that
  ThreadRuneLocale
is undefined.
It's referenced in /usr/include/runetype.h,
but not defined in any of /usr/include/*.h or /usr/include/sys/*.h
Can someone tell me where it's supposed to be defined?

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how to find where a port came from and rebuild with debug symbols

2013-08-24 Thread Gary Aitken
If I have a core file that implicates a library:
  #0  0x00080525cab0 in wxWindow::DoSetSize () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
and 
#16 0x0008056bf720 in wxAuiManager::Update () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0

and I want to find out which port these came from so I can rebuild it
with debug symbols, how do I do that?

$ nm -a /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
nm: /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0: no symbols

Clearly I'm doing something wrong there...

So I try guessing:

pkg_info
   pkg_info | grep gtk2
linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7_4 GTK+ library, version 2.X (Linux Fedora 10)
webkit-gtk2-1.8.3_2 An opensource browser engine
wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2 The wxWidgets GUI toolkit (common files)
wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.12_2 The wxWidgets GUI toolkit (Unicode)

more guessing:

locate wxgtk2-common
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/+COMMENT
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/+CONTENTS
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/+DESC
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/+MTREE_DIRS
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/+REQUIRED_BY
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.12_2/distfiles

After grousing around I find 
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  512 Aug 24 09:38 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Aug  8 10:51 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28-common
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Feb 17  2013 x11-toolkets/wxgtk28-contrib
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Feb 17  2013 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28-contrib-common
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Aug  8 10:51 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28-unicode
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Feb 17  2013 x11-toolkits/wxgtk28-unicode-contrib

After doing a make of x11-toolkits/wxgtk28
I find a bunch of lib*.so in ../work/wxGTK-2.8.12/lib

and doing nm on them I discover what I want is in
  libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so
  libwx_gtk2_core-2.8.so

However, neither of these exists in /usr/local/lib; only a bunch of other libux
things.

So..

ldd /usr/local/bin/hugin | grep libwx
libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 
(0x804d07000)
libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 
(0x80506d000)
libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0 
(0x80568e000)
libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 
(0x805904000)
libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 
(0x805ba6000)
libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 
(0x805e65000)
libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 
(0x80606f000)
libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 
(0x806356000)
libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 
(0x806564000)

help?

And, assuming I find the right port, how do I rebuild / install it with symbols 
left in?
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Re: hugin?

2013-08-23 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/23/13 07:10, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:
 
 Is anyone using the current port of hugin successfully on 9.1? I've
 never used it before but an attempt to start it crashes:
 
 $ hugin /usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/top_five.py CAT:Control
 Points NAM:keep 5 CPs per image pair 
 /usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/woa.py CAT:Control Points 
 NAM:Warped Overlap Analysis 
 /usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/shooting_pattern.py CAT:initial
 distribution NAM:6-1-1 Shooting Pattern 
 /usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/crop_cp.py CAT:Control Points 
 NAM:Crop Control Points Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)
 
 That could be from having the OpenGL preview window enabled.  In
 ~/.hugin, go to the [GLPreviewFrame] section and set isShown to zero.
 After the program starts, that can be set in the Preferences:
 File/Preferences/Assistant After align open.  Set it to Preview
 Window rather than Fast preview window.

I don't see any GLPreviewFrame, or any Preview at all; or any Shown:

cat .hugin
version=2012.0
[AutoPano]
AutoPanoCount=10
Default=0
[AutoPano/AutoPano_0]
Type=1
Description=Hugin's CPFind
Program=cpfind
Arguments=--multirow -o %o %s
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_1]
Type=1
Description=Hugin's CPFind + Celeste (slower but more accurate, no cps on 
clouds)
Program=cpfind
Arguments=--celeste --multirow -o %o %s
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_2]
Type=2
Description=Cpfind (multirow/stacked)
Program=cpfind
Arguments=-o %o --multirow %s
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
ProgramStack=align_image_stack
ArgumentsStack=-f %v -v -p %o %i
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_3]
Type=1
Description=Autopano-SIFT-C
Program=autopano-noop.sh
Arguments=--maxmatches %p --projection %f,%v %o %i
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_4]
Type=1
Description=Panomatic
Program=panomatic
Arguments=-o %o %i
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_5]
Type=4
Description=Autopano-SIFT-C (multirow/stacked)
Program=generatekeys
Arguments=%i %k 800
ProgramMatcher=autopano
ArgumentsMatcher=--maxmatches %p %o %k
ArgumentsCleanup=
ProgramStack=align_image_stack
ArgumentsStack=-f %v -v -p %o %i
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_6]
Type=1
Description=Align image stack
Program=align_image_stack
Arguments=-f %v -v -p %o %i
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_7]
Type=1
Description=Align image stack FullFrameFisheye
Program=align_image_stack
Arguments=-f %v -e -p %o %i
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_8]
Type=1
Description=Vertical lines
Program=linefind
Arguments=-o %o %s
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1
[AutoPano/AutoPano_9]
Type=1
Description=Hugin's CPFind (prealigned)
Program=cpfind
Arguments=--prealigned -o %o %s
ProgramMatcher=
ArgumentsMatcher=
Option=1

gdb shows the following:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 812807400 (LWP 100339/hugin)]
0x00080525cab0 in wxWindow::DoSetSize () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
(gdb) where
#0  0x00080525cab0 in wxWindow::DoSetSize () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#1  0x000805342c7e in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#2  0x0008053546f0 in wxWindowBase::Layout () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#3  0x00080537f5d6 in wxPanel::OnSize () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#4  0x000804dfe48d in wxEvtHandler::ProcessEventIfMatches () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0
#5  0x000804dfe64c in wxEventHashTable::HandleEvent () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0
#6  0x000804dfe78d in wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0
#7  0x00080525ca85 in wxWindow::DoSetSize () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#8  0x000805342c7e in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#9  0x000805342c03 in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#10 0x000805342c7e in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#11 0x000805342c03 in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#12 0x000805342c7e in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#13 0x000805342c7e in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#14 0x0008053546f0 in wxWindowBase::Layout () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#15 0x0008056b7f08 in wxAuiManager::DoFrameLayout () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0
#16 0x0008056bf720 in wxAuiManager::Update () from 
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0
#17 0x0054e0b8 in 
HuginBase::Nona::ReduceStitchervigra::BasicImagevigra::RGBValuefloat, 0u, 
1u, 2u, std::allocatorvigra::RGBValuefloat, 0u, 1u, 2u  , 
vigra::BasicImageunsigned char, std

Re: ipfw confusion

2013-08-22 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/20/13 12:41, Dan Lists wrote:
 You might turn on logging and post the logs of what is being blocked.
 Sometimes things are being blocked by rules you do not expect.

Thanks for the suggestion.
I was seeing refusals from named and mistakenly interpreting them 
as ipfw issues.

 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:
 
 On 08/19/13 00:36, Jason Cox wrote:
 Are you sure that your DNS requests are over TCP? DNS primarily uses UDP
 to
 serve requests. TCP is used when the response data size exceeds 512 bytes
 (I think), or for tasks such as zone transfers. I know a few resolver
 implementations use TCP for all queries, but most I have used not. You
 might want to add rules to allow UDP as well.

 There are identical rules included for udp:

 21149 allow udp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 keep-state
 21169 allow udp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 keep-state

 One of the requests which is being refused is a zone transfer request from
 a secondary which is a tcp request.  Others are probably udp.

 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net
 wrote:

 I'm having some weird ipfw behavior, or it seems weird to me, and am
 looking
 for an explaination and then a way out.

 ipfw list
 ...
 21109 allow tcp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 21129 allow tcp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 ...
 65534 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any

 tail -f messages
 Aug 18 23:33:06 nightmare named[914]: client 188.231.152.46#63877: error
 sending response: permission denied

 12.32.36.65 is the addr of the internal interface (xl0) on the firewall
   and is the public dns server.
 12.32.44.142 is the addr of the external interface (tun0) which is
 bridged
 on a
 dsl line.

 It appears that a dns request was allowed in, but the response was not
 allowed
 back out.  It seems to me the above rules 21109 and 21129 should have
 allowed
 the request in and the response back out.

 It's possible a request could come in on 12.32.44.142,
 which is why 21109 is present;
 although I know I am getting failures to reply to refresh requests
 from a secondary addressed to 12.32.36.65

 What am I missing?

 Is there a problem if the incoming rule is for tun0,
 which gets passed to named
 since 12.32.44.142 is on the physical machine running named,
 but named pumps its response out on 12.32.36.65,
 relying on routing to get it to the right place,
 and that fails to match the state tracking mechanism
 which started with 12.32.44.142?

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hugin?

2013-08-22 Thread Gary Aitken
Is anyone using the current port of hugin successfully on 9.1?
I've never used it before but an attempt to start it crashes:

$ hugin
/usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/top_five.py
   CAT:Control Points
   NAM:keep 5 CPs per image pair
/usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/woa.py
   CAT:Control Points
   NAM:Warped Overlap Analysis
/usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/shooting_pattern.py
   CAT:initial distribution
   NAM:6-1-1 Shooting Pattern
/usr/local/share/hugin/data/plugins/crop_cp.py
   CAT:Control Points
   NAM:Crop Control Points
Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)
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ipfw confusion

2013-08-19 Thread Gary Aitken
I'm having some weird ipfw behavior, or it seems weird to me, and am looking
for an explaination and then a way out.

ipfw list
...
21109 allow tcp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup 
keep-state
21129 allow tcp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup keep-state
...
65534 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any

tail -f messages
Aug 18 23:33:06 nightmare named[914]: client 188.231.152.46#63877: error 
sending response: permission denied

12.32.36.65 is the addr of the internal interface (xl0) on the firewall
  and is the public dns server.
12.32.44.142 is the addr of the external interface (tun0) which is bridged on a 
dsl line.

It appears that a dns request was allowed in, but the response was not allowed
back out.  It seems to me the above rules 21109 and 21129 should have allowed
the request in and the response back out.

It's possible a request could come in on 12.32.44.142, 
which is why 21109 is present;
although I know I am getting failures to reply to refresh requests 
from a secondary addressed to 12.32.36.65

What am I missing?

Is there a problem if the incoming rule is for tun0, 
which gets passed to named 
since 12.32.44.142 is on the physical machine running named,
but named pumps its response out on 12.32.36.65,
relying on routing to get it to the right place,
and that fails to match the state tracking mechanism 
which started with 12.32.44.142?
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Re: ipfw confusion

2013-08-19 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/19/13 11:53, OpenSlate ChalkDust wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:
 
 I'm having some weird ipfw behavior, or it seems weird to me, and am
 looking
 for an explaination and then a way out.

 ipfw list
 ...
 21109 allow tcp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 21129 allow tcp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 ...
 65534 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any

 tail -f messages
 Aug 18 23:33:06 nightmare named[914]: client 188.231.152.46#63877: error
 sending response: permission denied

 12.32.36.65 is the addr of the internal interface (xl0) on the firewall
   and is the public dns server.
 12.32.44.142 is the addr of the external interface (tun0) which is bridged
 on a
 dsl line.

 It appears that a dns request was allowed in, but the response was not
 allowed
 back out.  It seems to me the above rules 21109 and 21129 should have
 allowed
 the request in and the response back out.

 It's possible a request could come in on 12.32.44.142,
 which is why 21109 is present;
 although I know I am getting failures to reply to refresh requests
 from a secondary addressed to 12.32.36.65

 What am I missing?

 I think you need explict rules like
 
 n allow tcp from 12.32.44.142 to any dst-port 53 out via tun0 setup
 keep-state

Why would rules like that be necessary, given the conversation is initiated
from the outside?  Shouldn't setup keep-state let the whole conversation, 
both directions, through?

On 08/19/13 13:36, Dan Lists wrote:

 Do you have a check-state rule earlier in your rules?
 
 1000 check-state

Yes:

00500 check-state





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Re: ipfw confusion

2013-08-19 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/19/13 00:36, Jason Cox wrote:
 Are you sure that your DNS requests are over TCP? DNS primarily uses UDP to
 serve requests. TCP is used when the response data size exceeds 512 bytes
 (I think), or for tasks such as zone transfers. I know a few resolver
 implementations use TCP for all queries, but most I have used not. You
 might want to add rules to allow UDP as well.

There are identical rules included for udp:

21149 allow udp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 keep-state
21169 allow udp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 keep-state

One of the requests which is being refused is a zone transfer request from 
a secondary which is a tcp request.  Others are probably udp.

 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.netwrote:
 
 I'm having some weird ipfw behavior, or it seems weird to me, and am
 looking
 for an explaination and then a way out.

 ipfw list
 ...
 21109 allow tcp from any to 12.32.44.142 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 21129 allow tcp from any to 12.32.36.65 dst-port 53 in via tun0 setup
 keep-state
 ...
 65534 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any

 tail -f messages
 Aug 18 23:33:06 nightmare named[914]: client 188.231.152.46#63877: error
 sending response: permission denied

 12.32.36.65 is the addr of the internal interface (xl0) on the firewall
   and is the public dns server.
 12.32.44.142 is the addr of the external interface (tun0) which is bridged
 on a
 dsl line.

 It appears that a dns request was allowed in, but the response was not
 allowed
 back out.  It seems to me the above rules 21109 and 21129 should have
 allowed
 the request in and the response back out.

 It's possible a request could come in on 12.32.44.142,
 which is why 21109 is present;
 although I know I am getting failures to reply to refresh requests
 from a secondary addressed to 12.32.36.65

 What am I missing?

 Is there a problem if the incoming rule is for tun0,
 which gets passed to named
 since 12.32.44.142 is on the physical machine running named,
 but named pumps its response out on 12.32.36.65,
 relying on routing to get it to the right place,
 and that fails to match the state tracking mechanism
 which started with 12.32.44.142?
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Re: Mouse Trails?

2013-08-18 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/17/13 19:08, cpghost wrote:
 On 08/17/13 18:14, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:31:26 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

 Good ole Xeyes... ;-) But beware, xeyes crashes X server right now! Using
 
 xeyes-1.1.1
 xorg-server-1.7.7_8,1
 
 on
 FreeBSD 9.2-PRERELEASE #0 r253323 Sat Jul 13 21:00:32 CEST 2013 amd64
 
 I'm not the only one who's got X server crashes with xeyes:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-May/011833.html
 
 @Polytropon: what version of xeyes/xorg-server are you using?

pkg_info | grep xeyes
xeyes-1.1.1 A follow the mouse X demo
pkg_info | grep xorg-server
xorg-server-1.7.7_8,1 X.Org X server and related programs

Works fine here, amd64.

How soon does it crash?
  First mouse movement, program startup, or what?

The behavior I see is:
  mouse is visible
  start typing in xterm and cursor disappears
  xeyes comes up with eyes pointing to where cursor was
  a second or so later the cursor reappears
  move the cursor and eyes follow it

Gary
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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-14 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a
 build is going on.
 
 I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an 
 ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard.
 
 The system works fine unless I start a cpu-intensive build.
 If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly.
 I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures.
 
 When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the
 CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds.
  
 I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process
 to keep it down.  If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown.
 
 Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter...
 
 Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related
 experience on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gary

Thanks, all, for the replies and insights.
Just a followup:

The factory heatsink was basically incapable of keeping the temp down under
a heavy-processing port build, and BIOS was shutting down when the temp
eventually climbed too high.  xmbmon was my friend for tracking this; using
ctls and ctlq on the output stream of the build effectively suspended it
when it got around 60C so I could wait until the processor cooled down enough 
to continue.  Doing a sync every second or so also postponed the eventual
overheating for a while, but eventually it would creep up to the shutdown
point.

Replacing the heatsink with a gonzo big one seems to have solved the problem.

As an aside, this is probably what also made me think some time ago that my
SSD was flaky.  Things just ran faster so the cpu overheated sooner.
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firefox audio / youtube crashes?

2013-08-08 Thread Gary Aitken
I think I should know this but I don't, and a search didn't turn up anything
recent.

It's my understanding firefox 22 with html5 should allow playing youtube videos
without the flash plugin.  But when I try to watch a youtube video, firefox
crashes.  I had this working on firefox 17 under 9.0 but don't know how it was
configured...  My firefox is installed with the following options:  

/usr/ports/www/firefox$ make showconfig
=== The following configuration options are available for firefox-22.0,1:
 DBUS=on: D-Bus IPC system support
 DEBUG=off: Install debug symbols
 GCONF=off: GConf configuration backend support
 GIO=on: GIO for file I/O
 GNOMEUI=off: libgnomeui support module
 GNOMEVFS2=off: GnomeVFS2 (virtual file system) support
 GSTREAMER=off: Multimedia support via GStreamer
 LIBPROXY=off: Proxy support via libproxy
 LOGGING=on: Additional log messages
 OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=off: Use extra compiler optimizations
 PGO=off: Use Profile-Guided Optimization
 WEBRTC=on: Web Real-Time Communication
 Options available for the single AUDIO: you have to select exactly one of 
them
 ALSA=on: ALSA audio architecture support
 PULSEAUDIO=off: PulseAudio sound server support

I installed the following as freshports indicated they were needed to run,
but it made no difference:
www/nspluginwrapper
audio/alsa-lib
multimedia/libv4l

hints?
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Re: can't build virtualbox-ose

2013-08-08 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/08/13 05:22, felix wrote:
 hi,all when i build the port, it shows the following messages.
 === Installing for gnutls-2.12.23_1
 ===   Generating temporary packing list 
 ===  Checking if security/gnutls already installed
 === gnutls-2.12.23_1 is already installed
 You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again
  by ``make reinstall'' to
 upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of
 security/gnutls without deleting it first, set the variable
 FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install
 command line. *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1
...
 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose.
 
 I had run portupgrade -fr security/gnutls, even though i run
 portupgrade -a, the problem is still. any hints? thanks

I had this problem with a different port.
I think I got around it by cd'ing to the port directory and doing a make 
install.
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how to make mkinstalldirs

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create
mkinstalldirs for a port?

ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to 

install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or 
directory

It's not supposed to be needed if automake is = 1.9, but automake in the ports
tree is 1.4.

Gary 
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Re: how to make mkinstalldirs

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/04/13 13:25, Eduardo Morras wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600
 Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:
 
 Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create
 mkinstalldirs for a port?

 ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to 

 install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or 
 directory

 It's not supposed to be needed if automake is = 1.9, but automake in the 
 ports
 tree is 1.4.
 
 Today I updated my system (9.1) and automake updated from 1.12.6 to 1.14
 
 Perhaps you forget to update the ports tree first

typo on my part.  should read:

It's not supposed to be needed if automake is = 1.19, but automake in the ports
tree is 1.14

I'm up to date with automake as far as I know, and ufraw still requires 
mkinstalldirs to build.

Thanks for the reply, though,

Gary

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hardware monitor

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree?
I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, 
but I can't see it to tell...

Thanks,

Gary
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AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a
build is going on.

I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an 
ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard.

The system works fine unless I start a cpu-intensive build.
If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly.
I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures.

When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the
CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds.
 
I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process
to keep it down.  If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown.

Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter...

Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related
experience on?

Thanks,

Gary

On 08/04/13 15:15, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree?
 I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, 
 but I can't see it to tell...
 
 If it's primarily about temperature... amdtemp (kernel
 module), healthd (system service), mbmon and xmbmon (in
 the ports collection).
 
 

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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a
 build is going on.
 
 I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an 
 ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard.
 
 The system works fine unless I start a cpu-intensive build.
 If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly.
 I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures.
 
 When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the
 CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds.
  
 I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process
 to keep it down.  If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown.
 
 Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter...
 
 Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related
 experience on?

BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32.
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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/04/13 18:30, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
 On 05/08/2013 00:29, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang
 fast when a build is going on.
 
 I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an 
 ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard.
 
 The system works fine unless I start a cpu-intensive build. If
 I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down
 abruptly. I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu
 temperatures.
 
 When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature
 of the CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. I pretty much
 have to manually suspend and resume the build process to keep it
 down.  If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown.
 
 Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a
 non-starter...
 
 Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some
 related experience on?
 BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32.
 
 
 Did you get that from the ACPI?

I think so; via amdtemp and xmbmon

 Obvious answers are a bigger fan, but a lot of home-build machines
 don't match the airflow through the case properly - if the CPU fan is
 blowing pre-warmed air on to the CPU it's not as good as blowing
 outside air.
 
 50C isn't crazy. Some would say that was barely warm, in fact. Cooler
 is always better, but you possibly don't need to worry about this.
 Some CPUs use what they call passive temperature management, and
 power management, which means they increase or reduce the clock rate
 depending on the workload and whether it's getting too hot. Faster
 switching means more heat. So getting hotter when doing a lot of work
 makes sense and could be expected. (Winchesters really heat up like
 you wouldn't believe when you move the heads a lot).

Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters.
Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around 59
and still climbing steeply.

 Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion (you emailed me
 privately, whether you meant to or not, but didn't mention the
 outcome). There's a lot there in the ACPI you might want to look in
 to, including fan control. If I understand it correctly, passive
 cooling will be engaged by acpi_thermal if the cpufreq drivers are
 in use, which may not be what you want. Try
 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0
 or as appropriate).

The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment...

 Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload
 shutdown? it will say so on the console, or in the message log. You
 didn't say, you just said it shut down. If it's deciding to shut
 down through over-temperature it does not necesarily mean it's
 overheating; it could be that it has incorrectly set the shutdown
 temperatue for your CPU to be far too low - possibly because it
 doesn't recognise it and is being over-cautious.

There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut down
the last time was some su's and root logins.

 it might help if you posted the results of sysctl hw.acpi.thermal,
 but in the mean time look at:
 
 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT
 
 (replace tz0 with whatever tz you're worried about).

I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a :

hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5
hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5
hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1
hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE
hw.acpi.standby_state: S1
hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3
hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1
hw.acpi.s4bios: 0
hw.acpi.verbose: 0
hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0
hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0
hw.acpi.reset_video: 0
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1

 The first is the temperature when the system is supposed to stop what
 it's doing and suspend to disk (if it can). When it reaches the value
 on _CRT it'll write a message to the log file and shut down
 immediately to prevent damage. You can set these to whatever you
 want, but you have to set hw.acpi.thermal.user_override to 1 first
 before it will let you. Final trick - make sure you specify the
 temperatures like
 
 sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=80C

# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override
sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.user_override'

obviously, something missing...

I tried loading coretemp, but no additional hw.acpi variables;
and the man page says it is for intel, not amd.

 Don't specify it as 80.0C (as it will display) and don't forget the C
 or it will assume degrees Kelvin!
 
 Regards, Frank.
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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Aitken
On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
 On 05/08/2013 03:01, Gary Aitken wrote:
 50C isn't crazy.
 Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. 
 Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around
 59 and still climbing steeply.
 
 The manufactures specs I found when I looked that range of CPUs up
 was 71C
 
 http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx

  But there could be two figures - one for maximum desirable working
 and one for maximum or else.

Maybe; although the number I quoted wasn't from AMD, and the two I just found
at amd both said 71. 

 Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion snip Try 
 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on
 (tz0 or as appropriate).
 The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment...
 
 It it full speed all the time?

I really don't know what full speed on the fan is / feels like / sounds like.
It's pretty quiet and there's a noisy old system nearby...
xmbmon doesn't show fan speeds, nor does amdtemp provide access to them.
Is there some other kernel module for fan speeds?
 
 Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload 
 shutdown? snip
 There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut
 down the last time was some su's and root logins.
 
 This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but
 something on the motherboard.

That was my guess as well.

 it might help if you posted the results of sysctl
 hw.acpi.thermal, but in the mean time look at:
 
 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT
 
 I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a :
 
 hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 
 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 
 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 
 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 
 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 
 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 
 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
 
 Yep - definitely suggests that the thermal control isn't being done
 by FreeBSD! 

ok, but how do I get it in there if I want it?

 Go no further on this route, but check the
 motherboard/BIOS. I had one machine shut itself down due to a faulty
 thermistor (raise the threshold/ignore) but it normally happens when
 the parameters are wrong or the fan has failed. As your fan hasn't
 failed and the reported temperature is believable my best guesses are
 that the BIOS is either picking the wrong shutdown temperature for
 the CPU or your air ducting isn't good enough and it really is
 getting too hot. Is there a chance that the BIOS pre-dates the CPU
 and just doesn't know its working parameters, and is therefore
 playing safe?

I'll check the BIOS next time I reboot.
Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off...

 Incidentally, ACPI is an Intel specification but applies AMD64 CPUs
 too. The thermal module only works on some chip-sets. FWIW I've found
 it works on more AMD platforms than it does Intel ones.
 
 Regards, Frank.

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x11-toolkits/open-motif build issue

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Aitken
Hi all,

I'm running a newly upgraded 9.1.
Did a portmaster -a to rebuild what I had up to a point,
then tried building x11-toolkits/open-motif,
as it is the component which failed when trying to build editors/openoffice-3.

Seeing the same error I was seeing under 9.0.
I suspect this is something screwed up in the environment but haven't a clue
what it is.
It looks like crt1.o is being included in the library build by mistake,
and that's causing the undefined ref to _main.

hints?

Thanks,

Gary


gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools'
Making all in wml
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools/wml'
/bin/sh ../../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link cc  -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu89 -Wall -g -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-unused 
-Wno-comment -fno-tree-ter -DCSRG_BASED -DXNO_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI 
-D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include  
-L/usr/local/lib -o wmluiltok wmluiltok.o  -lXp -liconv  -L/usr/local/lib -lXft 
-lXrender  -L/usr/local/lib -lXft   -ljpeg -lpng
libtool: link: cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu89 -Wall -g 
-fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-unused -Wno-comment -fno-tree-ter -DCSRG_BASED 
-DXNO_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -D_THREAD_SAFE 
-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -o wmluiltok wmluiltok.o  
-L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libXp.so /usr/local/lib/libXext.so 
/usr/local/lib/libiconv.so /usr/local/lib/libXft.so 
/usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so 
/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so -lz -lbz2 /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so 
/usr/local/lib/libX11.so /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so /usr/local/lib/libXau.so 
/usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so -lrpcsvc 
/usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so -lpng -pthread -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib 
-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':
crt1.c:(.text+0x8a): undefined reference to `main'
gmake[2]: *** [wmluiltok] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools/wml'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools'
gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
*** [do-build] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif.
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firefox build problem

2013-07-29 Thread Gary Aitken
just did a ports update, haven't done one for a few months.

portmaster -w www/firefox
craps out with:

In file included from
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/gfx/2d/Blur.cp
p:7:
In file included from ../../dist/include/mozilla/gfx/Blur.h:12:
../../dist/include/mozilla/CheckedInt.h:179:31: error: non-type template
  argument of type 'const bool' is not an integral constant expression
static const bool value = IntegerType(-1) = IntegerType(0);
  ^
../../dist/include/mozilla/CheckedInt.h:343:28: note: while checking a
default
  template argument used here
  return IsInRangeImplT, U::run(x);

Have I got something screwed up?
I don't know squat about c++ templates and can't see what's wrong.

hints?


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Boot Error v7.4 Install

2013-07-01 Thread Gary Welles
I've been trying for days to install v7.4 from floppies with 
non-bootable CD on an old Intel AltServer platform's Adaptec 
AIC-7870 SCSI.


It's SCSI Software User's Guide offers configuration support 
for Novell Netware, OS/2, Windows NT, SCO Unix, and Novell 
UnixWare with no mention of BSD.


The installation to 16Gb SCSI ID:0 on a Dell PowerEdge 
Scalable Disk Subsystem 100 appears to go well, but always 
results in Boot Error.


Any help would be appreciated, especially directing me to most 
appropriate discussion list/archive.


Tks,
-- Gary
Gary Welles
Old Mystic, CT USA

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Re: buildworld selectively?

2013-06-09 Thread Gary J. Hayers

Have a read of the man page for /etc/src.conf

On 09/06/2013 19:52, Walter Hurry wrote:

As a relative newcomer to FreeBSD I am planning a 'make buildworld' for
the first time. Since this is likely to be a lengthy process (my first
attempt will be in a virtual machine), I am wondering whether it is
possible to be at all selective about what is built.

I have read the handbook section thoroughly, and shall follow the
procedure recommended. I have also consulted 'man make.conf', but have
been unable to establish an answer.

For example, I do not require 'games'.

Is there a way of achieving this?

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Re: buildworld selectively?

2013-06-09 Thread Gary J. Hayers

No worries, no such thing as a silly question :)

On 09/06/2013 20:51, Walter Hurry wrote:

On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:56:10 +0100, Gary J. Hayers wrote:


Have a read of the man page for /etc/src.conf

On 09/06/2013 19:52, Walter Hurry wrote:

As a relative newcomer to FreeBSD I am planning a 'make buildworld' for
the first time. Since this is likely to be a lengthy process (my first
attempt will be in a virtual machine), I am wondering whether it is
possible to be at all selective about what is built.

I have read the handbook section thoroughly, and shall follow the
procedure recommended. I have also consulted 'man make.conf', but have
been unable to establish an answer.

For example, I do not require 'games'.

Is there a way of achieving this?


Ah, src.conf. That's what I missed!. Thank you so much Gary, and sorry if
it was a silly question.

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which reader/tablet/whatever

2013-06-09 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

most of you know that im physically disabled.  anyway, the
disability extends to my speech and is why the cellphone I 
have is datged and never got upgraded.  

Anyway ... whilei dont need a new cell, I =have= been eyeing 
something that I can buy ebooks and have the player/reader/???
have the text {ASCII =only=} read to me.  I would google up 
something, but I dont even know what to search for.   can I put
freebsd on these tablet devices?  if I bought, say, WAR AND PIECE
or something out of copyright  { schopenhauer or marcus aurelius }
that is in text, how do I get it to whatever tablet I have?  
right now we've got cable and I use the telco for my server.
I know that works, but it is only good for my computer network.

but say I wanted to keep things simple and buy some kind of kindle
or nook.  how does amazon.com or bn.com get their new ebooks onto
my reader?

thanks in advance,

gary



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Re: OT, i think...

2013-05-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 03:02:28PM -0500, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote:
 SIMIoff topic. (I think)
 
 Sorry but I am envious that you have a chrome working.  I am stuck with the
 ===  chromium-25.0.1364.172_1 has known vulnerabilities:
 chromium-25.0.1364.172_1 is vulnerable:
 chromium -- multiple vulnerabilities
 
 WWW: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/bdd48858-9656-11e2-a9a8-00262d5ed8ee.html
 = Please update your ports tree and try again.
 *** [check-vulnerable] Error code 1
 
 Sorry but I'm not sure which is worse, having it or not having it.
 
 Again i apologize.
 
 ed
 


hmmm.  the chrome that I have is running on my ubuntu linux
laptop.  [i've switched to linux because it was easier to upgrade.
now, I dunno.  at any rate, when I was fully BSD, some N years
ago, there was no chrome... .   The only ++plus is that I
still know hoto hack code. :_)

gary


 On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
 
  guys,
 
  if   goog had their browser from BSD it would help big-time; I use one of
  the
  zillions of linux distros for my desktop.  I dont have a bleeding edge
  cell. just something to call the cops or access [ small bus with wchair
  lift.]  only have one hand, so cant easily hold cell and type blah * 3.
 
  SO, the upshot is, since I use firefox mostly, and chrome, rarely, I got a
  bit befuddled tonight trying to read an old philosopher's translation on
  chrome.  I got to fess-up.  reading on the screen is vastly easier than
  getting out a REAL book  and paperweights, and taking off my eyeglasses,
  C!  tonight, I figured out howto enlarge the font and bring up the book.
  --i read the prince by nick whatever.  this on google's browser.  it
  took awhile before I realized that I wasnt hearing the words!   yes, the
  speaker in the circle [[upper right]] read aloud   and I could glean
  that much more by reading with eyes and ears.  ===but=== is there some
  magic I ca n use to do an All, and then fire off the text-to-voice?
 
  CAUTION
  [[[the following is interesting only if you're into art schopenhauer.
  his works were not correctly xlated until {i think} 1954.  I bought the
  p'back of his *Parerga and Paralipomena: A Collection of Philosophical
  Essays*.  I never read it.  google has it, and I suppose I could cough pup
  $whatever.  but only if they got their tts stuff working without me having
  to
  mouse 600+ pages or whatever it requires.  ]]]
  /CAUTION
 
  anybody know howto make this All menu cmd work in chrome?  in ffox, it's
  a simple edit-control-A
 
  thanks much,
 
  gary
 
 
 
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OT, i think...

2013-05-12 Thread Gary Kline

guys, 

if   goog had their browser from BSD it would help big-time; I use one of the
zillions of linux distros for my desktop.  I dont have a bleeding edge
cell. just something to call the cops or access [ small bus with wchair
lift.]  only have one hand, so cant easily hold cell and type blah * 3.

SO, the upshot is, since I use firefox mostly, and chrome, rarely, I got a
bit befuddled tonight trying to read an old philosopher's translation on
chrome.  I got to fess-up.  reading on the screen is vastly easier than
getting out a REAL book  and paperweights, and taking off my eyeglasses,
C!  tonight, I figured out howto enlarge the font and bring up the book.
--i read the prince by nick whatever.  this on google's browser.  it
took awhile before I realized that I wasnt hearing the words!   yes, the
speaker in the circle [[upper right]] read aloud   and I could glean
that much more by reading with eyes and ears.  ===but=== is there some
magic I ca n use to do an All, and then fire off the text-to-voice?

CAUTION
[[[the following is interesting only if you're into art schopenhauer.  
his works were not correctly xlated until {i think} 1954.  I bought the
p'back of his *Parerga and Paralipomena: A Collection of Philosophical
Essays*.  I never read it.  google has it, and I suppose I could cough pup
$whatever.  but only if they got their tts stuff working without me having to
mouse 600+ pages or whatever it requires.  ]]]
/CAUTION

anybody know howto make this All menu cmd work in chrome?  in ffox, it's
a simple edit-control-A

thanks much,

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re who wants thought.org post from last nightt...

2013-05-08 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

I was pleasantly  surprised at the responses,  so far--obv'ly--
all privately responded to.I'll get back to everybody in the
next couple/few days.  I am just finishing up my VBC that I plan 
to give to that  OLPC project out of MIT;  my shoulder feels like
it's falling off, so I thought id send this to those five or so
who are interested.  

first, im hoping that you gents are fairly patient.  meaning that 
altho my hacking   daze are winding down and I feel like  warmed
over dog-do, I'm not quite ready to   give up  thought.org just yet.  
for one thing, im not sure what career my daughter will take; and
even if she does choose comp-sci, she may have zero interest in
messing with my domain.  that said, when I do give it up in
a few years, I hope to have made a good choice.

second, I'm still trying to figure out   what the best thing to do 
=is=.  good: the caffeine pills are kicking in:)  --about the only
thing id ask is that thought.org AKA Thought Unlimited be dedicated 
to the unix realm.  that's unix as in UNIX{TM, C, c}, every distro
of linujx, every distro of BSD ... you get the idea.   ---hate to
find some very fine print like: thought.org is a wholly-owned
subsidiary of microsoft! hidden away.I {along with a bunch of 
other volunteers} spend years answering newbie questions for folk 
who  were interested in the unix paradigm but had no idea where to
start.  whoever takes over can surely do much more along those
lines if he wishes.  (a parenthetical note is that when I was
sweating my way thru cal, about 30% of the computer classes were
female!I keep wondering what ever happened to all the girls! )  

what else?  oh yeah, cost.  no charge.  no essays, no tell me
in 25 words or less... .  the one thing I've always appreciated
about the freebsd list[s] is the tenor of its membership.  same  
goes for the rest of the Nix groups.  I would be much obliged for
suggested input.

enough for now

gary


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who wants thought.org?

2013-05-07 Thread Gary Kline

people,

I can do a lot of stuff with  my domain, but nothing is forever,
and id rather not give thought.org  away for  a few hundred bux.  I
would like to know if anybody on this [[or other]] freebsd lists 
want to take over  when I seriously Am too old  

be nice if thought.org could be subsumed into something bsd;
but whatever.  my daughter  is ===hopefully=== going into comp-sci
and maybe she'll be interested.  she will be a high school sr this
fall and that means {??} **9**9**9.

thought id throw this open while I can still Type!!

gary


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script or c prog to record live audio?

2013-05-06 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

I've been meaning to ask one of the Nix lists if there is a script that
will record something from kuow.org while I watch one of my favorite tv
broadcasts.  most  of the time, nothing is on tv, but  this one radio
broadcast, AR co-insides with NOVA at 21:00.  

anybody know?



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Re: script or c prog to record live audio?

2013-05-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:24:29PM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote:
 On 5/6/2013 6:19 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 guys,
 
 I've been meaning to ask one of the Nix lists if there is a script that
 will record something from kuow.org while I watch one of my favorite tv
 broadcasts.  most  of the time, nothing is on tv, but  this one radio
 broadcast, AR co-insides with NOVA at 21:00.
 
 anybody know?
 
 
 
 
 The hackish way I've done before is use wireshark do dump the
 network stream.  In reality, I think you might be able to get by
 with fetch.  I just tried and fetch closes the connection before
 buffering, using telnet does the transmit.  The trick is mp3 streams
 are just inefficient mp3's.  Maybe wget would work.  You can add a
 cron job to start it and another to kill it.


I'm checking fetch out now; I know a bit about  wireshark and have
used wget frequently.  but, nutshell, this might be  a serious
hack!  still, since it's only for me, no problem.  

thanks for the datapoints! 

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Re: script or c prog to record live audio?

2013-05-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:06PM -0400, rpratt wrote:
 On Mon, 6 May 2013 16:19:02 -0700
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  I've been meaning to ask one of the Nix lists if there is a script that
  will record something from kuow.org
 
 To play audio stream:
 
 mplayer -playlist 'http://shoutcast.kuow.org:8002/listen.pls'
 
 To dump the audio stream to file:
 
 mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.mp3 -playlist '... URL ...'
 
 No need to reinvent wheels.  See man page for more description and many other
 options.
 
 Enjoy,
 Randy

right on the money; about  reinventing wheels; I can cron the 
dumpstream  {=news= to me!} and play back whenever!  

{i wasnt kidding when I said I was getting Old.  my bed is singing
siren songs.}

tx muchly,

gary


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Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?

2013-04-08 Thread Gary Kline


Please excuse the top post, bujt you're the right guy to ask,
polyt.  mp3/audio files I can get.  you sent me a website to get
mp3's off youtube.  it is probably patry my ubuntu linux and gnome,
but is there a canned website that will grab a video?  somebody
has a Lot of westerns and I'd like to grab a couple.  

we can get 70 billion channels with barf comcast, but I dont see
any of these old/old/old movies.  [ several zillion tx. ]  

gary

ps:  yeah, I KNOW they are ===mostly=== mythic.  but sometimes I
just need to take a bleeping break.  and so far, nothingg  works.


On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 03:58:30AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:03:13 +0200, Harald Weis wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
   
If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and
mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos,
but it tends to work for everything. :-)
   
  Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ?
 
 There is no URL. You install it from ports:
 
   # cd /usr/ports/www/youtube_dl
   # make install
 
 If the version in ports is not current enough (e. g. when YT
 has again fiddled with the format), you can usually get it
 from its source https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl.
 
 
 
  For example on
  http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos
  
  When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get
  youtube-dl: No match.
 
 Make sure you use proper quoting as the URL contains
 characters that the shell will interpret. The common form
 to use youtube-dl is e. g.
 
   % youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0;
 
 Any superflous stuff in the URL will be ignored. This is
 the easiest way to work, e. g. from copying the URL from
 the URL line or via the Copy link address function; then
 just type 'youtube-dl ', press the middle mouse key, ''
 and Enter.
 
 As youtube-dl doesn't have a manpage, you can use
 
   % youtube-dl -h
 
 to get a list of supported command line options.
 
 
 
  (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the
  the ogg file)
 
 That's normal. :-)
 
 
 
  I definitely prefer the command line tool.
 
 What I like about this approach is that I can watch films
 in a usable (!) environment, which is mplayer, and not be
 dependent on some low-quality web player plugin. It's also
 nice to have interesting videos stored on the local disk
 so they can be watched without Internet connection. :-)
 
 
 
  Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief.
 
 It will happen, as soon as HTML5 is adopted more widely
 (currently happening especially for rich web content
 and the mobile market) and lawyers agree on a usable
 media codec.
 
 But for now, I don't actually see any problems running
 Flash if it is _intended_ to do so.
 
 
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Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?

2013-04-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 03:38:16AM +, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:28:15 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Please excuse the top post
 
 Why?
 


because most or all email is presented in oldest posts first.
it is more work to decode.  [[ esp'ly if you're   o lder than dirt,
like me! ]]

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mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

==many== yeears ago when i was running Only FBSD, I  asked
this list how i could use mutt when somebody included an
http://url.com; and i got replies that worked.  --sseems 
like the url string got moved to the end and clicking on the 
string exec'd firefox.   

in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt 
at least, there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each
new lines.  so that when i mouse lick on the url, i almost 
invariably get  either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong 
page.

i've googled for days.  zero.  im finally asking the top list
on the web.   can anybody clue me in?  i'm  using linux/gnome/mutt.
but it shouldnt make any difference. [?!]

tia, everybody,

gary





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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:20:18AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
  where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt 
  at least, there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each
  new lines.  so that when i mouse lick on the url, i almost 
  invariably get  either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong 
  page.
 
 That's to be expected. A URL covering several lines _can_ be
 copied (selected) when the line wrap is uninterrupted. It
 will even work for double- or triple-click (select word, select
 line) with the normal edit buffer (left swipe to select, in
 Firefox middle click or mousewheel press to go to URL). As the
 '+' character will be part of the wrapped URL (which can span
 several lines), the URL will be wrong, as you've seen.
 
 
 
  i've googled for days.  zero.  im finally asking the top list
  on the web.   can anybody clue me in?  i'm  using linux/gnome/mutt.
  but it shouldnt make any difference. [?!]
 
 If I remember correctly, there's a way to disable the line break
 emphasizer ('+' character) in the display. Have you tried
 
   set markers=no
 
 in your ~/.muttrc? Or was it
 
   unset markers
 
 Something with markers... I'm not fully sure if this is the
 setting you're searching for, but go ahead and try it.
 

theres a 'set markers' that defaults to yes. I edited it to no
and, presto, no mo' '+' in the url strings.  ---how you ever 
remembered  the variable 'markers' is beyound me, but yup.

anyway, with my konsole at std size, ~37x80, I moused dead-on 
the http string.  same as before: the string showed up from the
'http://.' to the eol.  and when I clicked, I got garbage.  

wait, there's more.  I blew up the konsole  until it filled the
entire  screen.  [i did this once before and got the right page.]
it still worked.  no '+' line break, but still.

it's a bear to have to enlage the xterm/konsole just to read
some mail, but it works with the two embedded urls that I've tried
so far.  why?  dunno.
 
 
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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 08:39:07PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
  On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, 
  Gary Kline kl...@thought.org said:
 
 G in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
 G where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt at least,
 G there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each new lines.  so
 G that when i mouse lick on the url,
 
Don't lick your mouse.  That's gross.



but it was so tasty! 'specially with chocolatte syrup.

 G i almost invariably get either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong
 G page.
 
You might want to try urlview, bound to Ctrl-B in mutt by default.  It's a
screen-oriented program for extracting URLs from text files, putting
them in a menu, and letting you run a command to view a specific item.
 
If you're on a FreeBSD system, it's in /usr/ports/textproc/urlview.


this was one of the things I tried.  I followed the instructions
exactly--with urlview and ^B.  eventually I wound up with the
list but it was hard to decide which was the text!

maybe leave o ne konsole wide open on my 4th workspace


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Re: Can't fetch boost-jam

2013-03-15 Thread Gary Dunn
Open Slate openslateproj at gmail.com writes:

 
 For several days I have not been able to update my ports due to fetch
 errors. Right now the first port portupgrade wants to update is
 devel/boost-jam. 
[snip]
Still cannot build this port today. Same problem.


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Re: rm -R

2013-03-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:43:50PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
 On 3/2/2013 2:43 PM, David Tilbrook wrote:
 The problem (and its solution) have been
 raised for at least 39 years.
 
 But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9])
 starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when
 obvious it's about unix commands.  It can be rather annoying when
 searching for help.
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sorry to be so dense; can you give me a few concrete examples? ya
lost me!

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Re: jail and networking

2013-02-20 Thread Gary Hayers

On 20/02/2013 18:23, Bernt Hansson wrote:

The ID did change, didn't know about that, thank you.

But still, sshd isn't running in the jail

32bit# ps ax
   PID  TT  STAT  TIME COMMAND
  2385  ??  IsJ0:00,00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for
/var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
  2391  ??  SsJ0:00,00 /usr/sbin/cron -s
  2464   0  SJ 0:00,01 tcsh
  2482   0  R+J0:00,00 ps ax

testbox# ps ax | grep J
  2385  ??  IsJ0:00,00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for
/var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
  2391  ??  SsJ0:00,00 /usr/sbin/cron -s
  2488   0  S+ 0:00,00 grep J

testbox is the host.


I assume you setup the /etc/resolv.conf? I have found that my network 
does not start until I have this setup.


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clicking on URL'S in mutt.

2013-02-18 Thread Gary Kline


guys, 

for some reason, kmail is busted and I need a way of getting
mutt to spawn firefox.  Anybody?

gary

ps:  this is from a linujx desktop running kde... 
ps ive got urlview [??]  but it lists dozens of http links:: lost.





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Re: clicking on URL'S in mutt.

2013-02-18 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 06:39:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:04:05 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  for some reason, kmail is busted and I need a way of getting
  mutt to spawn firefox.  Anybody?
 
 I can only suggest the most basic method (which should work
 with any text mode MUA, even those without any mouse support).
 It requires that you already have a Firefox running, e. g. on
 a 2nd workspace. First select the URL in the mail message with
 the left mouse button, then switch over to the Firefox window
 and click the middle mouse button (or press down the mouse
 wheel if you don't have a normal 3 button mouse). If the URL
 is encapsulated in spaces, a double-click would select it,
 so you don't need to manually select it from its beginning
 to its end (or vice versa).
 
 
 
  ps:  this is from a linujx desktop running kde... 
 
 If your mail storage is intact, can't you (temporarily) use
 Thunderbird to access it? If I remember correctly, KMail and
 Thunderbird are using the same storage format (mbox, I think)...
 


I think youre rt about t'bird.  I tried to install  it and got 
wy lost. ince kde is the same wherever, I'm including 
the ancillary file that is giving kmail fits.  maybe someone
omlist will spot the trouble straight away---considering  that
this is the sharpest list anywhere.

in the meantime, im using the rightmost button with mutt and
getting some of the http urls.

thank, everybody,

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File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf':
#
# Global Akonadi MySQL server settings,
# These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf
#
# Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp k...@mysql.com
#
[mysqld]

# strict query parsing/interpretation
# TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled
# 
sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat
# sql_mode=strict_trans_tables

# DEBUGGING:
# log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data
# log=mysql.full
# log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for 
debugging only)
# log_slow_queries

off-topic....

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Kline


guys,

ihad better make this fast; this desktop [dell duo] has been
crashing at random for the past couple month. no clue.  but ive
ordered a refurb with a three-year warranty.   I hope, I hope.

my question is: how to set up an account for code on google-code.
I'v found a 'cheat sheet' site and others that should help me 
with svn.  I have used cvs [late 90's]; I use rcs daily and figure
I'll learn subversion   in time.  but what else do  I have to do 
to get my vbc code over   on google?  their explaination is
written in hieroglyphics.

enough.

gary

ps:  I t is  worth noting that my vbc wworks on freebsd so long
as youve got espeak and the gtk stuff.


-- 
 Gary Kline  kl...@thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
  Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.

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Re: Booting issue with 9.1-RELEASE and net4801

2013-02-04 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/04/13 11:54, Alberto Mijares wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 I'm finally playing with my net4801 and nanobsd. SanDisk CF is recognized.
 
 At my first try I had to disable DMA in ATA because it hanged out. Now
 it hangs when trying to mount root filesystem and mountroot prompt
 appears. However, if a stop in loader prompt and type ls, files and
 dirs are displayed on disk0s1a.
 
 Any suggestion?
 
 Verbose boot log next:
 
 OK boot -v log

 ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
 ada0: SanDisk SDCFH-004G HDX 6.03 CFA-0 device
 ada0: Serial Number BOZ111711234413
 ada0: 16.700MB/s transfers (PIO4, PIO 512bytes)
 ada0: 3815MB (7813120 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 7751C)
 ada0: Previously was known as ad0
 GEOM: new disk ada0
 GEOM_PART: partition 2 has end offset beyond last LBA: 7999487  7813119
 GEOM_PART: partition 3 has start offset beyond last LBA: 7999488  7813119
 GEOM_PART: partition 3 has end offset beyond last LBA: 8002511  7813119
 GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada0, MBR)
 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [ro]...
 mountroot: waiting for device /dev/ada0s1a ...
 Mounting from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a failed with error 19.
 
 Loader variables:
   vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ada0s1a
   vfs.root.mountfrom.options=ro
 
 Manual root filesystem specification:
   fstype:device [options]
   Mount device using filesystem fstype
   and with the specified (optional) option list.
 
 eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
 zfs:tank
 cd9660:/dev/acd0 ro
   (which is equivalent to: mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0 /)
 
   ?   List valid disk boot devices
   .   Yield 1 second (for background tasks)
   empty lineAbort manual input
 
 mountroot

I believe I got this error when the root boot block is written properly,
but the first partition on the disk does not have the proper gpart boot code
in it.

Try listing the gpt partition scheme:

# gpart show -l ada1
=   34  156301421  ada1  GPT  (74G)
 34   1024 1  gptboot  (512k)
   1058  6- free -  (3.0k)
   10644194304 2  hdd-80G-root  (2.0G)
41953684194304 3  hdd-80G-swap  (2.0G)
83896724194304 4  hdd-80G-var  (2.0G)
   125839764194304 5  hdd-80G-tmp  (2.0G)
   16778280  139523168 6  hdd-80G-usr  (66G)
  156301448  7- free -  (3.5k)

Notice in the above partition 1, labeled gptboot (a label I gave it)
That's the boot code, which can be written as follows:
  gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada1
assuming the system you're running on has /boot/gptboot on it.

Gary
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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/03/13 03:33, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I'm considering buying this Thinkpad T61p laptop:
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321063105251
 
 It lists this graphics card:
 
 NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
 
 I'm not sure what driver, if any, will support it.
 
 There seems to be the official Nvidia FreeBSD driver
 provided for it:
 
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html
 
 but this apparently has to be installed outside of
 the ports tree.
 
 xf86-video-nv drivers list several other Quadro cards,
 but not specifically 570M.
 
 Maybe somebody has used this card, so can give a
 definite reply?

I can't specifically address that issue, but according to this page:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/compiz-fusion/nvidia-setup.html
recent nvidia cards should be supported by the 
  x11/nvidia-driver port

The nvidia legacy driver page does not list that card, so it may be
supported with the current x11/nvidia-driver port
  http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html

I have a GT-610 and it is also not listed.
I am in the process of upgrading to 9.1 as well, 
but am fighting a bad SSD and have to reconfigure.

Don't know if this helps or not...

Gary
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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/03/13 08:53, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 02/03/13 03:33, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I'm considering buying this Thinkpad T61p laptop:
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321063105251

 It lists this graphics card:

 NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M

 I'm not sure what driver, if any, will support it.

 There seems to be the official Nvidia FreeBSD driver
 provided for it:

 http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html

 but this apparently has to be installed outside of
 the ports tree.

 xf86-video-nv drivers list several other Quadro cards,
 but not specifically 570M.

 Maybe somebody has used this card, so can give a
 definite reply?
 
 I can't specifically address that issue, but according to this page:
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/compiz-fusion/nvidia-setup.html
 recent nvidia cards should be supported by the 
   x11/nvidia-driver port

Ugh, I just tried to build that and it is marked as IGNORE

 The nvidia legacy driver page does not list that card, so it may be
 supported with the current x11/nvidia-driver port
   http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html
 
 I have a GT-610 and it is also not listed.
 I am in the process of upgrading to 9.1 as well, 
 but am fighting a bad SSD and have to reconfigure.

The most recent nvidia port I can find is  
  NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-304.64.tar.gz 
It builds fine, but on installing it craps out with the following message:
  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers  No such file or directory

On 9.0, where I am using the 304.60 version, X11R6 is a pointer to /usr/local.
But my install of 9.1 has an actual /usr/X11R6, and that means things are
scattered all over, some in /usr/local/lib/xorg and some in /usr/X11R6.
This may be a glitch on my end; not sure yet.  I had to restart my ports
build because I screwed up and didn't do a fetch before building x11/xorg,
and that may have created some bad directories.

Can anyone verify if /usr/X11R6 under 9.1 is supposed to be a symlink to
/usr/local?

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken

 The nvidia legacy driver page does not list that card, so it may be
 supported with the current x11/nvidia-driver port
   http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html

 I have a GT-610 and it is also not listed.
 I am in the process of upgrading to 9.1 as well, 
 but am fighting a bad SSD and have to reconfigure.

 The most recent nvidia port I can find is  
   NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-304.64.tar.gz 
 It builds fine, but on installing it craps out with the following message:
   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers  No such file or directory
...
 On 9.0, where I am using the 304.60 version, X11R6 is a pointer to 
 /usr/local.
 
 That's the default for some time now. Even FreeBSD v8 already
 has that symlink, maybe it has already been part of v7 (not sure).
 
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  10 2011-08-21 22:32:05 /usr/X11R6@ - /usr/local
 
 But my install of 9.1 has an actual /usr/X11R6, and that means things are
 scattered all over, some in /usr/local/lib/xorg and some in /usr/X11R6.
 
 Where did you get the real X11R6/ directory entry from? Is this
 some legacy of continuous updating the system beginning at a
 version that actually had X11R6/ as a directory?

That's what I'd like to know :-)
I suspect it is from building the nvidia driver, 
as those Makefiles use
  X11BASE=   /usr/X11R6

 This may be a glitch on my end; not sure yet. 
 
 I think it is. The port expects something that actually is in
 /usr/local, which would have been the same as in /usr/X11R6,
 but in your case, it's not.
 
 I had to restart my ports
 build because I screwed up and didn't do a fetch before building x11/xorg,
 and that may have created some bad directories.
 
 In worst case, maybe you can remove your ports and recreate the
 reqired directory structures using the mtree templates
 BSD.local.dist (and maybe BSD.x11.dist or BSD.x11-4.dist),
 or maybe the xorg port will install the symlink automatically?
 If you're not sure, create the symlink yourself and continue
 as if nothing had happened. :-)

I think manually creating the symlink and rebuilding x and the nvidia
port may be what I'll try next.

 Can anyone verify if /usr/X11R6 under 9.1 is supposed to be a symlink to
 /usr/local?
 
 I stronly assume it is (no v9 OS at hand to check).

On 02/03/13 10:42, Warren Block wrote:

 Yes, or rather, there is no /usr/X11R6 at all, on either of the two 9-stable 
 systems I checked.

Hmmm, there is on my 9.0 with an nvidia driver installed.
Are you running an nvidia driver?
If not, that would hint that the X11R6 dir/link is a result of the nvidia driver
install process

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/03/13 11:32, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:29:30 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:

 I suspect it is from building the nvidia driver,
 as those Makefiles use
  X11BASE=   /usr/X11R6

 Last I heard from the ports guys, that is obsolete.
 
 If I remember correctly, X11BASE equals LOCALBASE, which
 is /usr/local, so any Makefile which uses X11BASE will
 be directed to /usr/local. It's not clear to me why a
 Makefile defines a location that has been obsolated...

It's surrounded by 

.if !defined(X11BASE)
X11BASE=/usr/X11R6
.endif

Which would protect it if it was defined;
but I don't see where X11BASE is defined anywhere in 
  /usr/ports/Mk
  /usr/share/mk

If it's been obsoleted, that would be the problem.

However, I don't see LOCALBASE defined anywhere except in terms of itself, 
either.
Where is it initially set?
Not being a make dude, I'm out of my element here
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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/03/13 13:34, Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 02/03/13 11:32, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:29:30 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:

 I suspect it is from building the nvidia driver,
 as those Makefiles use
  X11BASE=   /usr/X11R6

 Last I heard from the ports guys, that is obsolete.

 If I remember correctly, X11BASE equals LOCALBASE, which
 is /usr/local, so any Makefile which uses X11BASE will
 be directed to /usr/local. It's not clear to me why a
 Makefile defines a location that has been obsolated...

 It's surrounded by

 .if !defined(X11BASE)
 X11BASE=/usr/X11R6
 .endif

 Which would protect it if it was defined;
 but I don't see where X11BASE is defined anywhere in
  /usr/ports/Mk
  /usr/share/mk

 If it's been obsoleted, that would be the problem.

 However, I don't see LOCALBASE defined anywhere except in terms of itself, 
 either.
 Where is it initially set?
 Not being a make dude, I'm out of my element here
 
 Do you have it defined in /etc/make.conf?

No; the only thing defined in /etc/make.conf is PERL_VERSION

For the OP, I (just now) got the nvidia driver and x to compile and run 
under 9.1 as follows:

1. make and install the x11/xorg port
2. create the symlink /usr/X11R6 to point to /usr/local
   if /usr/X11R6 already exists as a regular directory and has stuff in it,
   move it aside or delete it.  I found mine only had stuff from previous
   attempts to build the nvidia driver in it (a bin plain file(!), and a
   lib containing files from the nvidia driver build), so I deleted it.
3. download and unpack the nvidia driver;
   I used
 NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-304.64.tar.gz
   but note that that file is specific to my architecture, which is amd64;
   you'll need the appropriate one for your architecture.
4. make the nvidia driver
5. make sure step #4 added the line
 nvidia_load=YES
   to /boot/loader.conf
6. add the following lines to /etc/rc.conf if not already present
 # Enable hald and dbus for X to work with kbd and mouse
 hald_enable=YES
 dbus_enable=YES

Gary


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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/03/13 16:11, Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Gary Aitken wrote:

 For the OP, I (just now) got the nvidia driver and x to compile and run
 under 9.1 as follows:

 1. make and install the x11/xorg port
 2. create the symlink /usr/X11R6 to point to /usr/local
   if /usr/X11R6 already exists as a regular directory and has stuff in it,
   move it aside or delete it.  I found mine only had stuff from previous
   attempts to build the nvidia driver in it (a bin plain file(!), and a
   lib containing files from the nvidia driver build), so I deleted it.
 3. download and unpack the nvidia driver;
   I used
 NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-304.64.tar.gz
   but note that that file is specific to my architecture, which is amd64;
   you'll need the appropriate one for your architecture.
 4. make the nvidia driver
 5. make sure step #4 added the line
 nvidia_load=YES
   to /boot/loader.conf
 6. add the following lines to /etc/rc.conf if not already present
 # Enable hald and dbus for X to work with kbd and mouse
 hald_enable=YES
 dbus_enable=YES
 
 Why not just use the port?

When I tried that I got some message (can't remember what it was) saying the
port was obsolete or something like that implying it shouldn't be used.  I
thought the msg was in one of the posts I made but I can't find it.  I just
looked at the Makefile for the port and it looks like it is using the same
version of the driver so maybe it will work fine.  The message may also
have been the result of the port build being messed up because of the 
extraneous /usr/X11R6 directory I had at the time.
If I end up rebuilding I will try it.

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Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues

2013-02-01 Thread Gary Aitken
I've got a Crucial m4 SSD which needs a firmware upgrade.
From the Crucial website I've downloaded an image which supposedly is an iso
image bootable from either CD or a usb stick.  

Since the fbsd install images are different for booting from cd and usb
flash drives (the flash image is significantly larger), 
I'm wondering if there's anything I need to be aware of when attempting this.

I tried copying the ssd firmware update image to a flash drive using:
  dd if=firmwareupdate.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=64k
which seemed to work.

However, when I attempt to boot the device, BIOS complains about it not
being bootable and says to fix it or select something else which is bootable.

I know the drive can be bootable because I used it for the fbsd 9.1 usb boot
image and it worked fine.

The documentation for the SSD firmware upgrade says Create a Bootable USB 
Drive
with the following steps (summarized here, no real content omitted):

  1.  Start with a newly formatted USB drive
  2.  Open a USB installer program.  If you don't have one, you may download
  a free one such as Universal USB Installer...
  3.  If you are using the Universal USB Installer, then:
  3a. At the Step 1 drop down box, scroll to the bottom and select
  the last option: Try Unlisted Linux ISO
  3b. Go to step 2 (in the pgm) and browse to the firmware ISO that you
  downloaded earlier
  3c. Go to step 3 (in the pgm) and select the flash drive on which you
  want to install the ISO
  3d. Click the Create button and click Format E:\Drive
  3e. A sequence of screens will appear and disappear...

The above is all highly confusing to me, as it's not clear who's doing what.
I'm guessing the Universal Installer Program actually writes a boot block
and then the bootable image someplace beyond that, and the iso image supplied
is not really a complete bootable image for a flash drive -- it's missing the
boot blocks.

Can anyone suggest a way to create a bootable flash drive using this image?
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Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues

2013-02-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/01/13 11:03, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Aitken
 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:55 PM
 To: FreeBSD Mailing List
 Subject: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues

 I've got a Crucial m4 SSD which needs a firmware upgrade.
 From the Crucial website I've downloaded an image which supposedly is an
 iso image bootable from either CD or a usb stick.

 Since the fbsd install images are different for booting from cd and usb
 flash
 drives (the flash image is significantly larger), I'm wondering if there's
 anything I need to be aware of when attempting this.

 I tried copying the ssd firmware update image to a flash drive using:
   dd if=firmwareupdate.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=64k which seemed to work.

 However, when I attempt to boot the device, BIOS complains about it not
 being bootable and says to fix it or select something else which is
 bootable.

 I know the drive can be bootable because I used it for the fbsd 9.1 usb
 boot
 image and it worked fine.

 The documentation for the SSD firmware upgrade says Create a Bootable
 USB Drive
 with the following steps (summarized here, no real content omitted):

   1.  Start with a newly formatted USB drive
   2.  Open a USB installer program.  If you don't have one, you may
 download
   a free one such as Universal USB Installer...
   3.  If you are using the Universal USB Installer, then:
   3a. At the Step 1 drop down box, scroll to the bottom and select
   the last option: Try Unlisted Linux ISO
   3b. Go to step 2 (in the pgm) and browse to the firmware ISO that you
   downloaded earlier
   3c. Go to step 3 (in the pgm) and select the flash drive on which you
   want to install the ISO
   3d. Click the Create button and click Format E:\Drive
   3e. A sequence of screens will appear and disappear...

 The above is all highly confusing to me, as it's not clear who's doing
 what.
 I'm guessing the Universal Installer Program actually writes a boot
 block
 and then the bootable image someplace beyond that, and the iso image
 supplied is not really a complete bootable image for a flash drive -- it's
 missing the boot blocks.

 Can anyone suggest a way to create a bootable flash drive using this
 image?
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 Please see the below site for a script to convert the .ISO into a .IMG that
 can be dd written to the thumb drive
 
 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361

Thanks, that was a help.

However, when it boots, I get the following:

  No /boot/loader
  FreeBSD/x86 boot
  Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
  boot:

I can mount the thumb drive as a ufs file system, which looks like this:
  /boot/
solinux/
boot.cat
boot2880.img
bootmsg.txt
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
memdisk
splash.lss
  /legal.txt
  /revision.txt

Assuming this is all good as a stand-alone linux image, what do I need to 
enter at the boot: prompt to get it to boot?  It's not clear to me what the
code to be booted is.

The isolinux.cfg file looks like this:
  PROMPT 1
  TIMEOUT 30

  DEFAULT default

  DISPLAY bootMsg.txt

  LABEL default
KERNEL memdisk
append initrd=boot2880.img floppy raw

  LABEL alternate
KERNEL memdisk
append initrd=boot2880.img floppy

Thanks for any hints...

Gary
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Re: Crucial SSD firmware upgrade -- usb flash drive issues

2013-02-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/01/13 22:06, Zoran Kolic wrote:
 If I understand correctly, it is iso image from ssd manufacturer.
 They tend to think everybody uses win and has cd drive. Quick
 search might give easy answer, if win/linux box is available. You
 could try out unetbootin. Tutorial says it takes an image and
 makes bootable usb stick.

On 02/01/13 17:05, Warren Block wrote:

 The implications of trying to custom build an SSD firmware update image from 
 a CD could be big, and it's really not something to experiment with unless 
 you feel lucky.
 
 From a user support standpoint, the first thing to do is send a Why 
 aren't you supporting your users with a memory stick firmware update? Many 
 people no longer have CD drives.
 
 Practically speaking, that is not likely to result in a quick result, or 
 possibly any result.  So use a program they recommend, or use an external CD 
 drive to update the firmware.

The mfg claims the iso image is suitable for booting either from CD or a usb
stick; with the caveat that you use some magic software to write the bootable
usb stick.  I guess I'll just find a way to write a CD.

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9.1 install wipes out gpart boot blocks?

2013-01-30 Thread Gary Aitken
I used gpart to set up a new disk,
then went through a 9.1 install.
Everything seemed to go fine, but when time came to boot the new drive,
it wouldn't boot.

When doing the 9.1 install, 
I selected the disk and had to assign the partitions to the various filesystems.
AFIK, I did not otherwise modify the filesystems.

Does the 9.1 install process trash the boot areas?

My gpart setup was:

  clean up (delete) the original partitions
  gpart destroy ada3
  gpart create -s GPT ada3
  gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ada3
  gpart add -t freebsd-boot -i 1 -s 512K -l gptboot ada3
  gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada3
  gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -b 1M -s 4G -i 2 -l fbsdroot ada3  # /
  gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4K -s 2G -i 3 -l fbsdswap ada3 # swap
  gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 4 -l fbsdvar ada3 # /var
  gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -s 2G -i 5 -l fbsdtmp ada3 # /tmp
  gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4K -i 6 -l fbsdusr ada3   # /usr
  newfs /dev/ada3p2   # /
  newfs -U -b 4096 -g 8192 -i 1024 /dev/ada3p4# /var
  newfs -U /dev/ada3p5# /tmp
  newfs -U /dev/ada3p6

At this point:

gpart show -l ada3
=   34  488397101  ada3  GPT  (232G)
 34   1024 1  gptboot  (512k)
   1058  6- free -  (3.0k)
   10648388608 2  fbsdroot  (4.0G)
83896724194304 3  fbsdswap  (2.0G)
   125839764194304 4  fbsdvar  (2.0G)
   167782804194304 5  fbsdtmp  (2.0G)
   20972584  467424544 6  fbsdusr  (222G)
  488397128  7- free -  (3.5k)

The / /var and /usr partitions seem to have been written properly.
Do I simply need to rewrite the boot areas, 
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help with SVN needed {slightly off-topic}

2013-01-20 Thread Gary Kline


(hm, well, other than to say that im installing 9.1 on my uni-CPU
laptop, this is =really= OT.)

okay, here's what I need help with and some of the whys and
wherefors, etc:  much to my surprise, my little speech application
for the impaired is gaining recognition rapidly.  ive heard from 
people from oz, from somewshere in the philippines, from england--
or maybe I should say u.k., as well as from a few locales here
in the states.  mostly, tho, my focus remains on writing or
finishing this program fro the one computer per child project that
is/was from MIT.  I'm not sure I believe this, but according to 
some source, there are some unholy number of children with some
disability. of the 7 billion there are 100 million children with
some disability.  not all speech, of course, but still---

a gtk+ wizard took my posted VBC code and make mods to it.  he
suggested that I set up an account on sourceforge.net so he and
others could contribute.  I have an acct there but couldn't figure
anything out.  a fellow on fbook suggested google.  I spent most
of saturday setting up a forum and a place for my code on
google.code.  if it sounds like I'm making progress, well, 
that's debatable.  nothing to do with hacking.  just the 
peripheral stuff.  

the part I need help with is Subversion.  I used CVS about 15 years 
ago, and svn looks slightly familiar.  the project on google.code
are looking for me to use svn to install my base files.  I think;
not sure.  on my desktop here I have one development directory for
all my source files.  I have subversion installed here.  briefly:
what now?

do I create a svn directory here? or do I ftp/scp/?? things
to the voice-by-computer account to the google.code project?
thanks for any help.

gary

ps: from the ``ya don' hafta be a hacker to help Dept:'' a speech
therapist wrote with some thoughts on what I should =avoid=
as well as things to include.  things I had never thought of!!


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Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 06:41:43AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever] device
  to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
  looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
  dialing whoever.  instead, im thinking of something with a 
  small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
  some version of 'unix' is essential.
 
 Have you considered using something like a small laptop
 (like the Asus eeePC) which is small enough and provides
 sufficient UNIX compatibility? Additionally, a regular
 keyboard (even if in small size) provides tactile feedback
 which can be an advantage (as you don't need visual
 confirmation about something that's covered by your
 fingers).
 
 I think such kind of netbook can be obtained for few money.
 Some of them were shipped with Linux, if I remember correctly,
 and if you wish to install FreeBSD, it's also possible.
 Here are some examples which illustrate the feasibility
 of such a project:
 
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee
 
 http://www.freebsdgr.org/articles/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/install-eeepc/article.html


these look hopeful since  I need to update my debian  5.X.

 
 http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt
 
 The requirements are met: small screen, physical keyboard,
 built-in speakers. If getting online with it is required,
 that's also possible by using some selected USB web stick.
 
 
I have an EEE-900A that I bought on ebay about two years ago.  it
works fine for my speech program.  I got something about a google
tablet, and [i think] a nook tablet. [?].  then theres the amazon
tablet.  is there a samsung tablet?  does the windoze tablet have
the ability to be unixified, or is it stuck with its crappy op-
sys?

you can see the problem of there being dozens of these small
gadgets out there--yes, including thed android--.  Can anything
be overwritten with anything like we are all used to?  unix.
 
 
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Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:51:19PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  
  note that this question is =OT=.
  
  sorry if this is a re-request for clues.  I =did= ask a very
  similar question a year or three ago; I'm just not sure
  where.  
 
 Ah, I remember. Wans't it when the Newton was released?

is the newton still around?  I thought it was a huge flop.
I'll ck, tx.

  I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever]
  device to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
  looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
  dialing whoever.  instead, im thinking of something with
  a small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
  some version of 'unix' is essential.
  
 
 have you looked at Samsung. They have a quiet interesting range from
 hand phones to tablets. I do not know the size up to which they can be
 used as hand phones but some pretty large models have this function
 built-in.


great if there's a model w/ a 5 to 7 screen.  kybd, speaker.
any idea if I can install gvim and espeak...?  and add my own code.


 
 My daughter has one I would still call a hand phone. She is very happy
 with it. 
 
 The keyboard has to be an external one in all cases. I do not know it
 this works on all models. 


so the keybd is a plug-in for the phones.  how about the tablets?
I AM/[have been] looking for a book-device that can read to me.

thanks for the clue,

gary


 
 Erich
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suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-11 Thread Gary Kline

note that this question is =OT=.

sorry if this is a re-request for clues.  I =did= ask a very
similar question a year or three ago; I'm just not sure where.  

I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever] device
to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
dialing whoever.  instead, im thinking of something with a 
small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
some version of 'unix' is essential.

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Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers

2013-01-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:16:05AM +0100, Harald Weis wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 07:40:37PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   
   
  itHOught I'd ask the best list which ad-blocking software I should
  use.
   
  firefox is my std browsers; also use ixquick.
   
  thanks for some tips,
 
 Have a look at midori.

thanks, iwill.


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which version of FBSD should i install?

2013-01-08 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

I used my EEE-900a [[last year]] to wow the medical team downtown
with my unfinished VBC program.  since nobody seems willing to
volunteer to test the (*almost*)-finished version, I figure I
ms well use my 2005 Thinkpad.  it is reasonably fast at 3.06GHz.
should clue me in on how much stuff I need to compile to test.

I want the Gnome Desktop, espeak, and gvim.  If there is a CD 
or DVD with 9.x, can somebody give me a URL?

tia,

gary

PS: The reason that vbc is only almost finished is that I need
to do a much better job outlining a.) the basics of using gvim,
b.) the basics of using the application, and c.) figuring the 
best way of using the File menu dropdown to _Save the 
existing files ... and more.  the  worst part is the
documentation... .

PPS:  ive found and expanding a few lines {maybe 15-20} on
gvim/vim/vi.  ineed to know how this reads.  figure you guys will
know.



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Re: which version of FBSD should i install?

2013-01-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 12:55:49PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:55:04 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  ms well use my 2005 Thinkpad.  it is reasonably fast at
  3.06GHz. should clue me in on how much stuff I need to compile to
  test.
 
 You should be able to run anything from 7.4, 8.3, 9.1 to 10.0.
 
 I mention 7.4 here for a simple reason. It could be that your old
 machine uses some USB hardware, which is not supported from 8.0 onwards.
 
 I would say, if it works, use 9.1. If not check out 7.4. If this then
 works, you could check 10 out.
 
 8.3 is the version which is the most robust one as the new stuff did
 not arrive there yet.
 
 Erich


Thanks for this.  VBC uses no USB hardware... well, AFAIK.  I
=believe= it should work on anything unix. That is: 
Unix, BSD, Linux, Android.  VBC doe require a keyboard since the
disabled user needs to type what he wants to have spoken. If
there are and USB issues there, I have no idea.

gary

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Re: sendmail not working

2013-01-07 Thread Gary Aitken
On 01/07/13 19:45, Robert Huff wrote:
 
 On a system running:
 
 FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64
 
 I have compiled sendmail following the instructions in the cyrus-sasl 
 port.
 Sendmail starts, but no mail is processed either way.  /var/log/maillog 
 has this:
 
 
 Jan  7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: forward 
 /home/huff/.forward: Group writable directory
 Jan  7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: smtpquit: mailer 
 local exited with exit value 1
 Jan  7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: to=huff@localhost, 
 delay=2+05:11:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=52831038, relay=local, 
 dsn=4.4.2, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by local
 
 The sendmail.cf and submit.cf are attached.
 
 Any idea what I've screwed up, or my next step in finding out?

No clue, except the first message might be saying it's not going to honor 
anything
from .forward because it's in a group writable directory which would be 
considered
a security issue.  Try making /home/huff group read only?


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Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers

2013-01-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 04:44:18PM +0200, Aldis Berjoza wrote:
 07.01.2013, 05:43, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org:
  itHOught I'd ask the best list which ad-blocking software I should
  use.
 
  firefox is my std browsers; also use ixquick.
 
  thanks for some tips,
 
  gary
 
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 I use dns/pdnsd to block (with dns) many advertisement sites, facebook, 
 twitter etc
 I also use www/privoxy for html content blocking
 Finally if something remains, that I can't filter, then I use ad-block
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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 08:43:18AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:59:45 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:03:39AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
   On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:27:38 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
one question I have may solve the problem of vim displaying
all the ^/search terms and displaying them in some color. 
the default brown is awful, but dark blue isn't much bbetter.
   
   If you try :colorscheme blue you can see that the results have
   orange background with dark text (maybe black?), while the editor
   background is blue (as the name of the color scheme suggests).
   
   
   
So: can I add something to my ~/.vimrc that =limits=
the search to displaying one term?  if I am searching for,
say, the or I guess /\the\, I dont want every the in my 
file.  I want only  one.   or one at a time, and not necessarily
in color.
   
   If you have :set hlsearch activated, all (visible) matches will
   be highlighted, and the cursor will be placed at the first match.
   
   I don't see an option to highlight the _next_ result only. However,
   if you do _not_ set hlsearch, searching and continuing searching
   will not highlight anything, instead let the cursor skip to the
   next match (tried here with gvim /COPYRIGHT, /this, /, /, / and
   so on), with :set nohlsearch for testing.
   
  
  Hm.  there must be something in Muttrc.  I dont see it in my
  local ~/.muttrc; this something is controlling every /search
  term and highlighting it.  
 
 That should be the default of :set hls (usually in ~/.vimrc),
 as I assume Mutt inlines vim.
 
 
 
  the regular vim /tmp/foofile.c /tmp/footext is fine.  it's only
  in mutt that highlights EVERY instance that I'm searching for.
  I'll figure it out eventually if you don't know offhand.  or
  anybody else.  
 
 Search for flags to vim as editor, :set hlsearch or :set hls.
 You can add your own :set nohlsearch or :set nohls at the end
 of the file to try to deactivate the effect. This should also
 work when manually entered during an editor session.
 
 
 
  maybe I should just find keith bostic's newvi; see if they have it 
  for linux; theyve got everything else... {grumble}
 
 I know there's nvi in ports.
 
 Maybe those will be helpful:
 
 http://garage.linux.student.kuleuven.be/~skimo//nvi/
 
 
 
 nvi download here:
 
 https://sites.google.com/a/bostic.com/keithbostic/files
 
 
 
 Project page and FAQ:
 
 https://sites.google.com/a/bostic.com/keithbostic/vi
 
 

thankee, polyt.  the URL's were right on the money!

okay, here's the update.  I spent much of saturday cleaning and 
fixing the VBC program.  I will probably split some things off
into a vbc.h header file to make things a bit neater.  but here
is where I need at least one volunteer from the BSD  world.  

you'll need to have espeak and vim/gvim installed.  And, of course,
the gtk libraries.  and maybe gnome, altho I cant see why.  this 
stuff already works on three versions of linux that run the 
GNOME Desktop.  

anybody have time to test in, say, a week or two?

gary

ps:  if the Makefile  works and it builds and execs, that
will be a ++good sign :)



 
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AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers

2013-01-06 Thread Gary Kline


itHOught I'd ask the best list which ad-blocking software I should
use.

firefox is my std browsers; also use ixquick.

thanks for some tips,

gary



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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-05 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 08:43:18AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:59:45 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:03:39AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
   On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:27:38 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
one question I have may solve the problem of vim displaying
all the ^/search terms and displaying them in some color. 
the default brown is awful, but dark blue isn't much bbetter.
   
   If you try :colorscheme blue you can see that the results have
   orange background with dark text (maybe black?), while the editor
   background is blue (as the name of the color scheme suggests).
   
   
   
So: can I add something to my ~/.vimrc that =limits=
the search to displaying one term?  if I am searching for,
say, the or I guess /\the\, I dont want every the in my 
file.  I want only  one.   or one at a time, and not necessarily
in color.
   
   If you have :set hlsearch activated, all (visible) matches will
   be highlighted, and the cursor will be placed at the first match.
   
   I don't see an option to highlight the _next_ result only. However,
   if you do _not_ set hlsearch, searching and continuing searching
   will not highlight anything, instead let the cursor skip to the
   next match (tried here with gvim /COPYRIGHT, /this, /, /, / and
   so on), with :set nohlsearch for testing.
   
  
  Hm.  there must be something in Muttrc.  I dont see it in my
  local ~/.muttrc; this something is controlling every /search
  term and highlighting it.  
 
 That should be the default of :set hls (usually in ~/.vimrc),
 as I assume Mutt inlines vim.
 
 
 
  the regular vim /tmp/foofile.c /tmp/footext is fine.  it's only
  in mutt that highlights EVERY instance that I'm searching for.
  I'll figure it out eventually if you don't know offhand.  or
  anybody else.  
 
 Search for flags to vim as editor, :set hlsearch or :set hls.
 You can add your own :set nohlsearch or :set nohls at the end
 of the file to try to deactivate the effect. This should also
 work when manually entered during an editor session.
 
 
 
  maybe I should just find keith bostic's newvi; see if they have it 
  for linux; theyve got everything else... {grumble}
 
 I know there's nvi in ports.
 
 Maybe those will be helpful:
 
 http://garage.linux.student.kuleuven.be/~skimo//nvi/
 
 
 
 nvi download here:
 
 https://sites.google.com/a/bostic.com/keithbostic/files
 
 
 
 Project page and FAQ:
 
 https://sites.google.com/a/bostic.com/keithbostic/vi
 
 
 
 
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super!  dank!  I had no idea that keith's stuff was still 
around--well, except for our nvi in ports/editors/.  one 
quick and easy solution would be to set editor = nvi in my .muttrc
and see if that works.  sometimes colors are helpful; usually I 
can get along fine w/out :-)





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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:03:39AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:27:38 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  one question I have may solve the problem of vim displaying
  all the ^/search terms and displaying them in some color. 
  the default brown is awful, but dark blue isn't much bbetter.
 
 If you try :colorscheme blue you can see that the results have
 orange background with dark text (maybe black?), while the editor
 background is blue (as the name of the color scheme suggests).
 
 
 
  So: can I add something to my ~/.vimrc that =limits=
  the search to displaying one term?  if I am searching for,
  say, the or I guess /\the\, I dont want every the in my 
  file.  I want only  one.   or one at a time, and not necessarily
  in color.
 
 If you have :set hlsearch activated, all (visible) matches will
 be highlighted, and the cursor will be placed at the first match.
 
 I don't see an option to highlight the _next_ result only. However,
 if you do _not_ set hlsearch, searching and continuing searching
 will not highlight anything, instead let the cursor skip to the
 next match (tried here with gvim /COPYRIGHT, /this, /, /, / and
 so on), with :set nohlsearch for testing.
 

Hm.  there must be something in Muttrc.  I dont see it in my
local ~/.muttrc; this something is controlling every /search
term and highlighting it.  

the regular vim /tmp/foofile.c /tmp/footext is fine.  it's only
in mutt that highlights EVERY instance that I'm searching for.
I'll figure it out eventually if you don't know offhand.  or
anybody else.  

maybe I should just find keith bostic's newvi; see if they have it 
for linux; theyve got everything else... {grumble}

thanks, polyt.

gary


 
 
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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 06:09:53AM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
 
 On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Polytropon wrote:
 
  On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:27:38 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 one question I have may solve the problem of vim displaying
 all the ^/search terms and displaying them in some color. 
 the default brown is awful, but dark blue isn't much bbetter.
  
  If you try :colorscheme blue you can see that the results have
  orange background with dark text (maybe black?), while the editor
  background is blue (as the name of the color scheme suggests).
  
  
  
 So: can I add something to my ~/.vimrc that =limits=
 the search to displaying one term?  if I am searching for,
 say, the or I guess /\the\, I dont want every the in my 
 file.  I want only  one.   or one at a time, and not necessarily
 in color.
  
  If you have :set hlsearch activated, all (visible) matches will
  be highlighted,
 
 :set hls
 :set nohls
 
 for short to enable/disable (respectively).
 
 
  and the cursor will be placed at the first match.
  
 


YES!  well, at least it works when I reply in mutt --which ive got
set to use vim.  the set strings immediately vanished from deep
blue ...  in other words, I can read the reply much more easily.

I put the 

:set nohls

in my ~/.muttrc and got an error when  I exec'd mutt.  I'll try
without the colon.


 On a side note, there's also :set incsearch
 
 That will make you jump ahead as you type (I personally don't care for it).
 

right; I see that incsearch jumps ahead to the next /search term
[.]  I can see a use if you are searching for, say /\i\ or
/\j\ , maybe.


  I don't see an option to highlight the _next_ result only. However,
  if you do _not_ set hlsearch, searching and continuing searching
  will not highlight anything, instead let the cursor skip to the
  next match (tried here with gvim /COPYRIGHT, /this, /, /, / and
  so on), with :set nohlsearch for testing.
  
  
  
  
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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:27:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:53:05 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  one reason ive stuck with vim-as-vi was of the colors that vim 
  defaults to.  I'v fought the dark/crap/puke brown  /search
  color that seems to be the default on my linux desktop.  it's hard
  to see my block cursor when I search for words.  und`zo, today I 
  spend a couple hours tracking down this color feature in vim.  was
  pleased to find that there was a blue-tone color set.  my joints
  are complaining so I'll ask if any of you can give me the right 
  terms to google for.  I'd like to find a lighter blue or play 
  around with the colors.  {am assuming that vim is the same across
  the linux and berkeley distributions.}
 
 In case you're using gvim (a GUI enclosing for vim) you can
 do the following: Load some text or source code, :syntax on,
 then in the menu: Edit - Color Scheme, and pin the resulting
 menu next to the editor window; click the different schemes
 to check if one of the predefined 17 schemes looks usable to
 you; when done, unpin the menu. This approach is just for
 testing and looking around in the first place, not for
 actual permanent use. :-)
 

wow!  [apologies: I fergot that I had an appt =all day== 
downtown.]  I am seeing this in mutt as all-green.  I guess
it's not that bad.

one question I have may solve the problem of vim displaying
all the ^/search terms and displaying them in some color. 
the default brown is awful, but dark blue isn't much bbetter.
So: can I add something to my ~/.vimrc that =limits=
the search to displaying one term?  if I am searching for,
say, the or I guess /\the\, I dont want every the in my 
file.  I want only  one.   or one at a time, and not necessarily
in color.


 
 
  PS:  OH; the offtopic thing.  I'm done, or =very= close with my
  voice by computer program.  It's in C with gtk and AFAICT works
  only on linux.  ive got a few months of cleaning up before 
  release 0.51 will be finished.  in the FBSD world, this would
  fit into the accessibility directory.  now, the speech-impaired
  who can type will be able to communicate with anyone.  VBC requires
  espeak and gvim.  
 
 There are both gvim and /usr/ports/audio/espeak in ports, and
 Gtk is also in there. What would cause this software to refuse
 working on FreeBSD?
 
hm. dunno.  but then , since I was using FBSD only as a server, I 
only put in ctwm.   no gnome, no gtk, no espeak.  actually, my
VBC certainly ought to work under gnome and with gtk, espeak, 
and gvim [as the pop-up editor].  I'll put the tarball on my
deadbbs.com site where ive got all my other portballs ... if 
you or anybody wants to try it out.  just gimmee a couple weeeks.
the code is seriously messy. --I hang my head... .

 
 
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Re: somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:44:22AM -0500, Rod Person wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:53:05 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  
  thanks in advance for a few url's.  
  
 
 I love this color scheme, I use it for everything. There is a vim
 specific version...http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
 


tx;  if it is just plug-and-work, I'll try it out.  --note that
to use this blue/green scheme, I swiped a couple lines. Voila.

 
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 Just because it can been done, does not mean it should be done.

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somewhat OT ... in parts

2013-01-02 Thread Gary Kline


guys,

it was bill joy and friends  who clued me in on how-to use the
vi that he was writing in the late 70's.  I've been stuck on that 
editor--or VIIM in recent years.  Bill's original editor became 
COPYRIGHT of UNIX {TM}, and of course you just didnt mess with
the telephone company.  I was glad when keith bostic wrote an
exact clone of bill joy's editor.  I'm still getting used to vim.

one reason ive stuck with vim-as-vi was of the colors that vim 
defaults to.  I'v fought the dark/crap/puke brown  /search
color that seems to be the default on my linux desktop.  it's hard
to see my block cursor when I search for words.  und`zo, today I 
spend a couple hours tracking down this color feature in vim.  was
pleased to find that there was a blue-tone color set.  my joints
are complaining so I'll ask if any of you can give me the right 
terms to google for.  I'd like to find a lighter blue or play 
around with the colors.  {am assuming that vim is the same across
the linux and berkeley distributions.}

thanks in advance for a few url's.  

gary

PS:  OH; the offtopic thing.  I'm done, or =very= close with my
voice by computer program.  It's in C with gtk and AFAICT works
only on linux.  ive got a few months of cleaning up before 
release 0.51 will be finished.  in the FBSD world, this would
fit into the accessibility directory.  now, the speech-impaired
who can type will be able to communicate with anyone.  VBC requires
espeak and gvim.  


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which C function is best to check for directory EXISTANCE?

2012-12-18 Thread Gary Kline

which C function is best to check for the existence of a 
*directory*?  say that I am want to make postitve that /tmp/foo/
exists.

ALso: which will make sure that the directory AND ffile 
tmp/foo/filename12345 exists and that I have read access to it?
in other words, can playing around with access() and stat() be
best?  is there any new dirstat(PATh) that would work?

just want to see which way is best?

dank mucho, y'all!

gary


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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Gary Aitken
On 12/16/12 04:00, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
 I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if
 switching to amd64 finally makes sense (i.e. are enough ports working
 on it now [xfrce4, firefox, libreoffice, openjdk-6, tomcat, mysql,
 apache22, flash, cups, devel/aegis, devel/cook, devel/fhist,
 virtualbox-ose, nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the main
 reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now and virtualbox-ose
 refuses to let me install 64 bit OS's like Win 8.

I've been using 9.0 release for about six months.
xfce, firefox, thunderbird, openoffice 3.4.1, jdk (most was done prior
to moving to fbsd 9.0, will be doing more) mysql, nvidia driver.

had trouble using html5 from youtube -- caused weird transparent 
rendering issues, had to disable it.

minor problems with oo which are probably generic.  (Infinite loop when
page had 20-40 images to run text around; not repeatable, but happens
fairly frequently; scrolling causes refresh which temporarily fixes the
problem).

On 12/16/12 07:08, Polytropon wrote:

 And if you're using Firefox, there are plugins available that
 allow you to download video content instead of dealing with the
 Flash player the site wants you to use. 

and the recommended one is?

  Sometimes I wish it wouldn't work anymore.
 It makes the web much more readable. :-)

amen


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mfiutil stating battery not present after installing battery

2012-12-16 Thread Gary Newcombe

I have a ServeRAID M5014 SAS/SATA Controller in a server and have just
put an M5000 Series Battery directly onto the card.

I was just expecting the battery to charge and be able to see it, but
no joy after a few days and a restart. As far as I am aware, the
battery should just be detected. What am I missing here?

The server is 8.3-RELEASE and I get:

# mfiutil show adapter
mfi0 Adapter:
Product Name: ServeRAID M5014 SAS/SATA Controller
   Serial Number: SV93301447
Firmware: 12.0.1-0097
 RAID Levels: JBOD, RAID0, RAID1, RAID5, RAID10, RAID50
  Battery Backup: not present
   NVRAM: 32K
  Onboard Memory: 256M
  Minimum Stripe: 8k
  Maximum Stripe: 1M

# mfiutil show battery
mfi0: No battery present

# dmesg | grep mfi
mfi0: LSI MegaSAS Gen2 port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 
0x9794-0x97943fff,0x9790-0x9793 irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 3.00 
mfi0: 21863 (408970429s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host
mfi0: 21864 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 
0079/1000/03c7/1014)
mfi0: 21865 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 2.0.33-0901
mfi0: 21866 (boot + 65s/0x0008/WARN) - Battery Not Present
mfi0: 21867 (boot + 65s/0x0020/info) - Board Revision 
mfi0: 21868 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 08(e0xff/s8)
mfi0: 21869 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 08(e0xff/s8) Info: 
enclPd=, scsiType=0, portMap=00, sasAddr=5000cca00a66b335,
mfi0: 21870 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - PD 08(e0xff/s8) FRU is 42D0628 
mfi0: 21871 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 09(e0xff/s9)
mfi0: 21872 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 09(e0xff/s9) Info: 
enclPd=, scsiType=0, portMap=02, sasAddr=5000cca00a6993b1,
mfi0: 21873 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - PD 09(e0xff/s9) FRU is 42D0628 
mfi0: 21874 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 0a(e0xff/s10)
mfi0: 21875 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 0a(e0xff/s10) Info: 
enclPd=, scsiType=0, portMap=01, sasAddr=5000cca00a645a65,
mfi0: 21876 (boot + 83s/0x0002/info) - PD 0a(e0xff/s10) FRU is 42D0628 
mfi0: 21877 (boot + 84s/0x0008/WARN) - BBU disabled; changing WB virtual disks 
to WT
mfi0: [ITHREAD]
mfi0: 21878 (408970578s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 12/16/12 10:56:18; 
(145 seconds since power on)
mfid0: MFI Logical Disk on mfi0
mfid0: 570296MB (1167966208 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal


Has anyone seen this sort of behaviour before or have any pointers?

Thanks,
Gary.
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