Re: VirtualBox - does it work for FreeBSD?

2010-01-21 Thread Glyn Millington
Daniel C. Dowse writes:
  On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:11:53 + at 
  Glyn Millington g...@millingtons.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
  
  
  Good Morning :-)
  
  A quick question for anyone running VirtualBox on a FreeBSD _host_
  machine, with Linux or Windows as a _guest_ OS.  
  
  
  Does it work? 
  
  
  That is, do the guest additions work fully for those guests, or are
  there limitations such those I experience currently when running
  FreeBSD 8 as the guest?  (eg no access to USB, no fullscreen mode).
  Any major problems with a FreeBSDS host and Windows/Linux guest?
  
  atb
  
  for Guest OS Windows XP Pro SP2 : 
   
  I used to mount usb  disc drives, outside of VB and access the
  Volumes as a SMB Network Share. Fullscreen Works after installing the
  Host Utilities for Windows. 

Thanks to Ivan and yourself -that's just the info I need!

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VirtualBox - does it work for FreeBSD?

2010-01-20 Thread Glyn Millington

Good Morning :-)

A quick question for anyone running VirtualBox on a FreeBSD _host_
machine, with Linux or Windows as a _guest_ OS.  


Does it work? 


That is, do the guest additions work fully for those guests, or are
there limitations such those I experience currently when running
FreeBSD 8 as the guest?  (eg no access to USB, no fullscreen mode).
Any major problems with a FreeBSDS host and Windows/Linux guest?

atb


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ANNOUNCE: New Custom XFCE isos based on 8.0-RELEASE-p2 (32 and 64 bits)

2010-01-10 Thread Glyn Millington
Manolis Kiagias writes:
  Hey all,
  
  I have just completed the second 8.0-RELEASE based build of the 'Custom
  releases' project hosted here:
  
  http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com


Nice!!  Many many thanks.

atb

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Re: sendmail SMTP AUTH: question about /etc/mail/auth/client-info file

2010-01-08 Thread Glyn Millington
Matthias Apitz writes:
  
  Hello Glyn,
  
  I have read the above page during my configuration but it does not
  explain to me which user must be configured in U: value; Is it me? Or is it
  the userID the sendmail daemon is running as? It works with U:root,
  but what does this mean exactly?


Sorry, Matthias, I misread your question.  I think it can only refer
to the uid under which sendmail is running, but can find no proof of
that :-)

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sendmail SMTP AUTH: question about /etc/mail/auth/client-info file

2010-01-07 Thread Glyn Millington
Matthias Apitz writes:
  Hello,
  
  Because I was forced by my ISP to do so, I have configured successfully
  as described in the FBSD docs the sendmail with SMTP AUTH;
  
  one question remains: the required file /etc/mail/auth/client-info has 
  the line:
  
  AuthInfo:smtp.1blu.de U:root I:Y P:X
  
  where the I: value is the userID given by the ISP and P: its password;
  what does the U: value is good for exactly? thanks in advance

Hi Matthias,

U = user

for details see 

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html


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Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-29 Thread Glyn Millington
Polytropon free...@edvax.de writes:
 When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask
 him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE
 with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting
 pain. :-)


Brilliant!!


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Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-27 Thread Glyn Millington
Patrick Reich rei...@austin.rr.com writes:

 One thing to add here is that the ports tree remains tied to
 teTeX.  If you install TexLive (either from DVD or Romain's)
 and then install a port like texmacs, lyx, texmaker, or auctex
 to edit your files, you'll pull in teTeX as a dependency.  You
 end up with both teTeX and TeXLive installed.  If someone knows
 how to avoid the duplicity, please do chime in 

Hi Patrick,


Just to say that duplicity usually means something like deceitful and
dishonest behaviour - duplication is what you want to avoid!  I only
mention it because this is a slip that could get you into serious
trouble in the wrong context!!  :-)

You are right about the ports tree and my way round this has been to edit
the relevant port Makefie and simply remove the dependency under
BUILD_DEPENDS, LIB_DEPENDS and RUN_DEPENDS.  Most things then find
TeXLive and build themselves nicely after that. There may be an automated
way of doing this but I haven't found it yet.


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Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-06 Thread Glyn Millington
bf bf20...@yahoo.com writes:

 Thanks for the info.  I'll have to try to install TeX Live.

 This is not trivial, which is one of the reasons it hasn't been done.

Well *porting* TeX Live is certainly not trivial!  But actually
installing it as free-standing software is not too hard.

Get it from here:

http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html


I find that the live installation over the internet works very well - the
links are there on the same page. Everything is installed in its own
directory structure so it is easy to clean out if you need to do so.

One useful point - in the main menu TeX Live gives the opportunity for the
installer to create symbolic links to its main programs in standard
directories. It is so much easier than doing so by hand!!


If you decide to download the huge iso instead, just mount it and install
from there.

mount_cd9660 -o ro /dev/`mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/file.iso`
/mount-point

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Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-06 Thread Glyn Millington
Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl writes:

 On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 07:34:07AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
 bf bf20...@yahoo.com writes:
 
  Thanks for the info.  I'll have to try to install TeX Live.
 
  This is not trivial, which is one of the reasons it hasn't been done.
 
 Well *porting* TeX Live is certainly not trivial!  But actually
 installing it as free-standing software is not too hard.
 
 Get it from here:
 
 http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html
 
 
 I find that the live installation over the internet works very well - the
 links are there on the same page. Everything is installed in its own
 directory structure so it is easy to clean out if you need to do so.
 
 One useful point - in the main menu TeX Live gives the opportunity for the
 installer to create symbolic links to its main programs in standard
 directories. It is so much easier than doing so by hand!!

 It is less messy if you just add the path to the TeXLive binaries to the
 path element of the default profile in /etc/login.conf:

Brilliant!! - that never occurred to me :-)


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Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?

2009-04-20 Thread Glyn Millington
Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net writes:

 I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a
 number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or
 FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption
 that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that
 starting point.


A laudable ambition!

 cups-base-1.3.9_3   Common UNIX Printing System
 cups-pdf-2.5.0  A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files
 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS 
 printers
 gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver
 libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration
 hplip-2.8.2_4   Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One 
 device

Looks good so far.

 The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110.

 1. how can I get permissions on the device to stick, so that I do not
have to reboot the machine every time we want to print or have to
power cycle the printer?

Wrong file  - add the changes to /etc/devfs.rules

/etc/devfs.conf is for fixed devices - devfs.rules for plug-in stuff.

 2. Am I correct that the missing .dll (that seems awfully Windows to
me) is the problem in getting a filter to print? If so, what do I
need to do to install it?

I don't know - try it with the permissions set as above.


 And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to
 start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\

 cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management

That should be enough to get it running.

 devfs_system_ruleset=system # something else they say cups needs

in which  case the first line in /etc/devfs.rules should be

[system=10] 

that line starts a new ruleset with the name system and the number 10


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Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?

2009-04-20 Thread Glyn Millington

Sorry - meant to add this to post

Take a look here:- 

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4110

A free driver is available, rather than the windows .dll


Good luck :-)

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Re: is there a way to upgrade Only ports that need it??

2009-04-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:

   is there any way t o not upgrade all installed ports, but only
   those that are not current?  

   tired of having my main box grinding away for endless days


portupgrade -akOP does the trick here. 

The time taken depends in large part on how many ports nned to be
upgraded.  If you keep your ports up to date regularly and often, the
periods of endless grinding wil be reduced.

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Re: xi?

2009-02-28 Thread Glyn Millington
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com writes:

 Hi all:

 I am rebuilding those ports and run into some problems. one of those
 is:

 checking for XINPUT... configure: error: Package requirements (x11 xext
 xi = 1.2 inputproto = 1.5) were not met:

 Requested 'xi = 1.2' but version of Xi is 1.1.3

 searching for a while and can't find this xi. how could I upgrade
 this xi?

/usr/ports/X11/libXi  would be my guess :-)


You may need to update your ports tree.


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Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu writes:


 But, we can _gently_ (it hasn't always been so gentle) teach
 newbies that the list is meant for something higher than just
 repeatedly ragging on why isn't FreeBSD more like MS or RHEL
 or whatever.

Or even why isn't FreeBSD more like FreeBSD used to be back in the day?

As a newcomer to FreeBSD (who will never be a programmer or serious
sysadmin) I'm grateful for the firm but fair approach taken here by most
people, for the toleration of my occasional inanities, and for helpful
answers. 


I'm also grateful to Chad for helping me look at again at Compiz-fusion -
I prefer fvwm myself, but CF IS gorgeous, no doubt about it, and my
eleven  year old thinks its cool :-) 

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Re: OO, text OR .odt to HTML?

2008-11-22 Thread Glyn Millington
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   is there a push button way of turning an odt file or plain ascii file
   into HTML using openoffice?

   i've googled, but haven't found anything.  

In OO 3

File-Export-File Format - html/xhtml



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Re: OO, text OR .odt to HTML?

2008-11-22 Thread Glyn Millington
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:06:48PM +, Glyn Millington wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 is there a push button way of turning an odt file or plain ascii file
 into HTML using openoffice?
 
 i've googled, but haven't found anything.  
 
 In OO 3
 
 File-Export-File Format - html/xhtml
 
   when were you dfinally able to get 3 built??  i tried a month ago and
   something snafu'd.  

October 15th! If memory serves there were no problems here.


 i'll give it a 2nd try; meanwhile will see if your
   pointers works on my 2.4

   gary

   PS: YES!   [[ still will try to rebuilt OO3 ]]

Splendid :-)



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Re: Official FreeBSD Forums

2008-11-17 Thread Glyn Millington
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

   * Having five gazillion posts that say me too, is not exactly a
 productive answer to a problem.  Alas, this is often what you get
 when you gather hundreds of _very_ inexperienced people and you hand
 them a web interface to freely post short, often unintelligible
 snippets that are more suitable for Twitter than a FAQ page.

 There's a Thanks button feature in vBulletin that can be enabled to
 help catch the 'me too' type postings.

 I've been posting to forums with the mozex Firefox extension and GNU
 Emacs for more than a couple of years now.  Here's how a typical ``post
 to a forum'' session looks like for me now:

   http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2961070181/

 Oh, wow.  That's perfect.  Or it would be if it was compatible with
 firefox-3.0.4 ... 

Well, yes, but Its All Text does the same trick for text boxes and it
is compatible.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125

Wouldn't be without it!

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Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-14 Thread Glyn Millington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 08:00:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:


 On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote:
  Dear sirs
 
  please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from
  windows vista
 
  but i cannot understand which system to use
 
  i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software


Take a look at the FreeBSD FAQ here - section 4 is the one you need.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html

Some research om the hardware front can save you lots of pain later.



 
  kind regards
 
  Peter

 Welcome to the free world Peter!

 FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also
 very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off.
 This means that you will have a very steep learning curve.

 This list is /very/ helpful, others may not be so friendly or helpful.
 This is great for newbies who need some real help in getting to know
 their system and fixing problems, but there are times when even this is
 not enough if you don't have enough experience with the system.

 My advice is this: get used to the *nix (linux, unix and other
 derivatives) systems and how they do things, and the best way to do this
 is to use linux which is like a halfway house for windows users. The
 software available for all systems is HUGE. And all this software will
 usually run on both systems. The difference is linux will take care of a
 lot of maintenance for you (like vista), but still allows you to get
 your hands dirty hacking the system to your hearts content.

 This is not to deter you from using FreeBSD - linux is a tough system
 when compared to windows, but FreeBSD is even tougher; bit like
 comparing a tank to fort knox. But the ease of use and experience you'll
 gain from using linux will be more forgiving than using FreeBSD.

 This is just wrong.I have always found FreeBSD to be easier
 to install and configure the way I want it that the Red Hat or Suse
 I often have to use for some servers at work.

 Amen to that.  I've converted many Ubuntu users who had shot
 themselves in the foot.  They are now happy freeBSD users. YMMV

 ed

 You can learn them all if you want and use them all.
 But, don't be bullied in to believing that FreeBSD is any harder
 than the Lunix flavors out there.

Well, depending on the needs, expectations and background of the learner
I guess that sometimes it might feel harder! Again YMMV.

One thing which makes the transition easier is the marvellous FreeBSD
handbook and documentation.  

Two websites I found helpful were (and are!) Roland Smith's FreeBSD page
here 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/

(Thank you Roland!!)


and this one


http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/freebsd.html

Good luck,


atb

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Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?

2008-11-01 Thread Glyn Millington
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good
 look. that's why i compare it to windoze.

 and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?

 just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc.

 all of them does exactly what's needed. windows management and menu.

 what else do you need to WORK? i mean work, not showing up to your
 friends.



O reason not the need! Our basest beggars
Are in the poorest thing superfluous.
Allow not nature more than nature needs,
Man's life is as cheap as beast's. Thou art a lady:
If only to go warm were gorgeous,
Why, nature needs not what thou gorgeous wear'st,
Which scarcely keeps thee warm. But, for true need--
You heavens, give me that patience, patience I need.
You see me here, you gods, a poor old man,
As full of grief as age, wretched in both.
If it be you that stirs these daughters' hearts
Against their father, fool me not so much
To bear it tamely; touch me with noble anger,
And let not women's weapons, water drops,
Stain my man's cheeks. No, you unnatural hags!
I will have such revenges on you both
That all the world shall--I will do such things--
What they are, yet I know not; but they shall be
The terrors of the earth. You think I'll weep.
No, I'll not weep.
I have full cause of weeping, but this heart
Shall break into a hundred thousand flaws,
Or ere I'll weep. O Fool, I shall go mad!

(Lear to his daughters Goneril and Regan,
King Lear, Act 2, Scene 4, lines 263-285)

Sorry - couldn' resist!

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Re: fail with wireless network configuration with SIOCS80211: Invalid argument

2008-10-31 Thread Glyn Millington
Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul B. Mahol wrote:
 On 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 
 Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless
 card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on
 FreeBSD 6.1.

 # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825
 ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument

   

 Why is deftxkey 1 missing ?

 from ifconfig(8)

  Note that you must set a default transmit key with deftxkey for
^
  the system to know which key to use in encrypting outbound traf-
  fic

   
 That quoted line of text is not appearing in my version (6.4) FreeBSD's
 manual.

 I tried to add deftxkey 1, same result. a.k.a. the interface is
 configured, but DHCP couldn't obtain IP address, manually assigned IP
 address couldn't communicate with other hosts.

What do you have in /etc/rc.conf and in /boot/loader.conf?

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-29 Thread Glyn Millington
Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sent by Glyn Millington:
 My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far
 it works flawlessly for me.
   
 This has two problems:

   1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy.

No it doesn't. The MS version of Firefox is running here under Wine with
no problems and definitely no Windows.  Why do you think it needs a
Windows install? 


   2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is
  what I'm using.

Ah well, there you have me!

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Calling FBSD1 -

2008-10-29 Thread Glyn Millington

Hi there FBSD1

I note that your system has twice sent a copy of my post, unaltered, in
the thread Flash 9,10 FreeBSD to the freebsd-questions list!

Is there something wrong ?


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Re: Calling FBSD1 -

2008-10-29 Thread Glyn Millington
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi there FBSD1

 I note that your system has twice sent a copy of my post, unaltered, in
 the thread Flash 9,10 FreeBSD to the freebsd-questions list!

 Is there something wrong ?

Apologies Joeb,   I see now that you did in fact append a question.  But
why two copies?

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-29 Thread Glyn Millington
FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sent by Glyn Millington:
 My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far
 it works flawlessly for me.

 This has two problems:

   1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy.

 No it doesn't. The MS version of Firefox is running here under Wine with
 no problems and definitely no Windows.  Why do you think it needs a
 Windows install?


   2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is
  what I'm using.

 Ah well, there you have me!

 Glyn
 ___

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glyn Millington
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:41 PM
 To: Mikhail Teterin
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Danielisz Laszlo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

   What is not clear is do you run wine/firefox from the command line or 
 from
 within KDE or gnome?

An answer to this question and an apology for missing the question the
first time.  

Neither.  I use good old Fvwm, but actually launch MS Firefox from the
Rox filer.

I was surprised at how easy this was to set up.  I don't say it is right
or clever, but it does work, and I'm not so very interested in Flash that
I want to spend ages fiddling to make it work in the other ways that have
been suggested.  I'm getting older so like to pick my fights with care!


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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Glyn Millington
Dánielisz László [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello!

 I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without 
 success.
 I remaing curios about any solution.


Szia!

To be honest I gave up with Flash for either the FreeBSD or Linux version
of Firefox.  Couldn't get it to work properly.

My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox.  So far
it works flawlessly for me.

Mw notes are here :-
http://www.millingtons.eclipse.co.uk/glyn/freebsd.html

look for the section headed Flash? Windows!

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Re: updating a port with problems (libxml2)

2008-10-17 Thread Glyn Millington
Colin Brace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,

 I use portsnap to keep the port tree of my FreeBSD 7 box up to date.
 According to portaudit, which I run nightly, there is a problem with the
 current version of libxml2. So, as usual, I run  sudo portsnap fetch 
 sudo portsnap update, and then: 

 $ cd /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2
 $ sudo make deinstall
 $ sudo make reinstall clean

 But this last command results in an error:

 ===  libxml2-2.6.32 has known vulnerabilities:
 = libxml2 -- two vulnerabilities.
Reference:
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/d71da236-9a94-11dd-8f42-001c2514716c.html
 = Please update your ports tree and try again.

 It would appear that the port has not yet been updated. Is this some
 temporary glitch? Otherwise, the approach I use is not very robust, since I
 have now managed to deinstall a library upon which a dozen or so programs
 depend. However, this is the first time this has happened.

 Comments, suggestions most welcome.

Hi Colin,

I hit  a similar difficulty with cups-base a few days ago.  Matthew
Seaman suggested this as a way of getting the dodgy port to install,
which I used because I *really* needed to print something:-



 portupgrade -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes cups-base


Lo and behold, within 6 hours of my re-installing the vulnerable port,
the port was fixed and I upgraded to that


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cups-base port broken???

2008-10-14 Thread Glyn Millington


Happy St. Callistus' Day!


FreeBSD 7 release.

I'm having trouble upgrading cups-base.  With an up-to-date ports tree
this is what I get.

,
| glynthebearded# portupgrade cups-base
| ---  Upgrading 'cups-base-1.3.5_2' to 'cups-base-1.3.8_1' (print/cups-base)
| ---  Building '/usr/ports/print/cups-base'
| ===  Cleaning for cups-base-1.3.8_1
| ===  cups-base-1.3.8_1 has known vulnerabilities:
| 
| ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
|/tmp/portupgrade.5624.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
|UPGRADE_PORT=cups-base-1.3.5_2 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.3.5_2 make
| 
| ** Fix the problem and try again.
| ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
| ! print/cups-base (cups-base-1.3.5_2)   (unknown build error)
`

The story behind this is that I deinstalled  the cups-base package, then
found that I couldn't reinstall; so did pkg_add -r and got
cups-base-1.3.5_2; which is fine except that it won't work with the
installed version of gnutls, it wants an older version.

Is there a work-around which will get me a functional cups-base


atb


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Re: cups-base port broken???

2008-10-14 Thread Glyn Millington
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 | Is there a work-around which will get me a functional cups-base

 First read 
 http://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/ce29ce1d-971a-11dd-ab7e-001c2514716c.html
 and the references cited therein and decide if installing this package is 
 still
 a good idea despite the security problems.

 Then, if you do decide to go ahead:

 ~   # portupgrade -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes cups-base

 Otherwise, wait until a fix comes out for the package.  For something
 like this, a fix will usually be available within a week or so.

Bless you and many thanks!  had done the homework, but I didn't know the
incantation which would allow me to live dangerously ...

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Re: Utility to extract iso files without burning

2008-10-03 Thread Glyn Millington
Warren Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im looking for a GUI or command line that will allow me to extract 
 information 
 within an ISO file... im using FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE KDE4.1.1 AMD64


well, you can mount it and then search around inside ..


mount_cd9660 -o ro /dev/`mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/file.iso` /mount-point



Good luck!


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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Glyn Millington
Joey Mingrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been told that LaTeX is probably the best solution for creating
 scientific papers with math fonts, so I'm trying to get a working
 installation.

A noble ambition!

 fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
 conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
 updated.

Alas the news about teTeX is true.

 Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
 suggest a installation method that works well for them?

Have you had a look at TeXLive?


http://www.tug.org/texlive/

For FreeBSD that means downloading the iso, mounting it like this


mount_cd9660 -o ro /dev/`mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/file.iso` /mount-point

cd to the mount point and look out for script entitled install-tl.sh

the script pretty well takes you through the installation


Good luck!


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Re: FreeBSD for webserver?

2008-07-22 Thread Glyn Millington
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This seems to be a common misperception about ports.  Ports aren't
 something magical.  They do exactly what you would do from the
 commandline (i.e. ./configure, make, make install), except they come
 with several bonuses.

 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to make
 it compile and install properly on FreeBSD.  2) The port maintainer
 has already supplied patches that allow the software to build
 correctly on FreeBSD.  3) All the dependencies are already taken care
 of.  4) Upgrading is quite simple and straightforward.  5) The
 software is now architechture-independent (in most cases), meaning you
 can move from Intel to AMD (for example) without having to worry that
 the software will no longer build and you'll have to start from
 scratch again.

Could I add 6.  Removing software from the system quickly and cleanly is
also a doddle!?  Building/installing by hand often leaves you hunting
down files ...


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Re: devfs and scanner

2008-05-23 Thread Glyn Millington
Sébastien Morand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is the uscanner0 device  also dealt with in /etc/devfs.rules ?


 I don't have such a file, is devd.conf the same purpose?

No it isn't.


/etc/devfs.conf deals with devices avaiable at boot time - cdrom drives
etc

devices that are plugged in and unplugged - usb gadgets like scanners :-)
- are handled by /etc/devfs.rules


So get rid of that entry in /etc/devfs.conf and insert the right thing in
/etc/devfs.rules

Mine looks like this:-


[system=10]
add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups
add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups
add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups
## Glyn added these below
add path 'da*'  mode 0660 group operator
add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group operator
add path 'tap*' mode 0660 group operator

You will want to change operator to scanner for your scanner group. 




That first line gives the ruleset a name and a number; then in
/etc/rc.conf you should put the line

devfs_system_ruleset=system

That should work after a reboot.

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Re: devfs and scanner

2008-05-22 Thread Glyn Millington
Sébastien Morand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi

 a would like to up my scanner automatically ofr regular user, so I
 create theses lines in devfs.conf:
 link  uscanner0   scanner
 perm  uscanner0   0660
 own   uscanner0   root:scanner

 I create the group scanner and add the user in it, but it doesn't
 work. When I plug the scanner I get:
 $ ls -l /dev/uscanner0
 crw-r--r--  1 root  operator0, 124 May 22 21:25 /dev/uscanner0

 And what I would like is:
 crw-rw-r--  1 root  scanner0, 124 May 22 21:25 /dev/uscanner0

 How can I achieve this?

Is the uscanner0 device  also dealt with in /etc/devfs.rules ?

atb

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Re: Problem Sending Mail With Postfix

2008-05-20 Thread Glyn Millington
Montag [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got Postfix SMTP server set up on a FreeBSD 7 box.  I'm receiving
 mail just fine, and I can send mail to my other web accounts (gmail),
 but my mail is getting rejected from the mailing lists.  Here is the
 output from the local mail queue:

 host mx1.free.bsd.org said: my.mywebsite.com: Helo command rejected:
 Host not found (in reply to RCPT TO command))
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

 Any thoughts?  

Montag, what values do you have in /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf for


mydomain
myorigin
mydestination
mynetworks?


What is the FQDN of the machine you are trying to send mail from? 


And yes, the real error mesage would be a help!


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Re: Very slow xfce

2008-05-17 Thread Glyn Millington
Nishita Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 I am having a very strange problem. I just finished installing
 Xfce-4.4 and got it to work with XDM. But all xfce native applications
 are behaving very strangely:

 1. The terminal doesn't echo back my characters till I've typed the
 next character. This is applicable to backspace key and password
 prompts (which wont show up till _after_ if finished typing and
 pressed enter)
 2. The menus dont render properly. Again, I can see the the items only
 when I hover over them.

 xterm works fine, so do menus within Firefox. Although my cursor
 disappears in Firefox's text-boxes sometimes.

 I have just installed exactly this combination on another system and
 it works fine. I am quite at a loss where to even start looking. Any
 help would be appreciated.


Just as a start, until the experts arrive ..

Is Xfce just too much for the system?  It ran nicely here a while back on
a 900mhz machine - but was noticeably slower than fvwm, so I ditched it
:-)

Firefox works - but does it take forever for ff to start?


Xterm works - close down firefox and everything else, fire up an xterm
and run top - is there anything using up a lot of memory or cpu that
shouldn't be there at all?

Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log  - any interesting error messages?


What does your .xinitrc look like?  


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Re: Very slow xfce

2008-05-17 Thread Glyn Millington
Nishita Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log  - any interesting error messages?

 Nishita Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Nothing I can spot.

 Okay, I didn't see this earlier.

 [drm] failed to load kernel module i915
 (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.
 (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.

 I have dri-7.0.3_1,2 installed

 xdriinfo gives
 # xdriinfo
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified

 Error: Couldn't open display


Try adding this to xorg.conf


Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection



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Re: another problem

2008-05-17 Thread Glyn Millington
John Wynstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And glib2 is part of Gnome?
 I never installed Gnome because I don't like Gnome.
 I tried to manually install /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend and got
 the same error.

 Perhaps I need to get Gnome off the installation CDROM.
 I really only need the library stuff.

 Alternatively is there an Internet source for the missing Gnome libraries?

Yes there is.

Here is a snip from the Makefile in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend

,
| PORTNAME=   gio-fam-backend
| PORTVERSION=2.16.3
| CATEGORIES= devel
| MASTER_SITES=   
${MASTER_SITE_GNOME:S,%SUBDIR%,sources/glib/${PORTVERSION:C/^([0-9]+\.[0-9]+).*/\1/},}
 \
| 
ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/${PORTVERSION:C/^([0-9]+\.[0-9]+).*/\1/}/ \
| ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/%SUBDIR%/ \
| ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/%SUBDIR%/ \
| http://www.ameth.org/gimp/%SUBDIR%/ \
| ${MASTER_SITE_RINGSERVER:S,%SUBDIR%,graphics/gimp/%SUBDIR%,}
| MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= gtk/v${PORTVERSION:C/^([0-9]+\.[0-9]+).*/\1/}
| DISTNAME=   glib-${PORTVERSION}
`

Compare the 2nd line with the last - this port needs glib-2.16.3


Now

$cat /usr/ports/devel/glib20/distinfo

MD5 (gnome2/glib-2.16.3.tar.bz2) = 195f9a803cc5279dbb39afdf985f44cb
SHA256 (gnome2/glib-2.16.3.tar.bz2) = 
562742a234c7b842d891ec8ed4c9bead093c33863cca01e31912f59f6c8e887d
SIZE (gnome2/glib-2.16.3.tar.bz2) = 4540919

so if you install that port then gio-fam-backend will work.  It worked here!

hth

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Re: another problem

2008-05-17 Thread Glyn Millington
John Wynstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now what is -lgio-2.0? and why is it missing?
 What tools do I have for debugging this?

Well, I'm pretty new to this too, but you almost certainly have grep.


So you could 


$cd /usr/ports

$grep -R lgio-2.0 *


Depending on where in the ports tree it resides, this may take a few
minutes to run, but it will in the end spit out the line you need:-

devel/gio-fam-backend/files/patch-gio_fam_Makefile.in:+ -lgio-2.0 \


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Re: another problem

2008-05-17 Thread Glyn Millington
John Wynstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I applied this fix, it worked for the previous problem and I came to
 the next one.

The story of my life :-) 

 I am getting the impression this is very filthy code.

Couldn't possibly comment!


Not sure I can help directly with this one but ..

1. Is your ports tree up to date? And have you run  pkgdb -F lately just
   to make the database is in good shape?   I'm pretty sure  that's NOT the
   problem here  but never does any harm to check :-)

2. There are ways around building openoffice natively.  This was a major
   step for me as I  need the thing occasionally and my hardware is too
   antique to build it that way.  You can either
   

   A. Install a native FreeBSD binary package - take a look in
  
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/
  
  I'm told this should run on a -7.0-release   system too. But no
  guarantees!



   B. Install a *Linux* binary and run that through FreeBSD's
  compatibility set-up.  This is what I am currently doing and it
  works perfectly as far as I can tell.  Detailed instructions here

http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/linux_openoffice.html


One other thought - it helps if you reply _beneath_ the person to whom
you are replying.  That way Question and Answer follow in logical order,
which helps if there are several layers of Q and A


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-14 Thread Glyn Millington
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry Kris, I was in part plain wrong in my first reply to this one.

 Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local fixed my
 initial problem


 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
 | error while loading shared libraries:
 | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid

 What I still don't get is why ldconfig doesn't find the the X11R6
 directory, when /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf point at it


 include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
 /lib
 /usr/lib
 /usr/local/lib

 it seems to be ignoring the first line.

 Either there is a real problem here or the real problem is my ignorance,
 and I'm not sure which it is!

 You re-ran the ldconfig command that rescans the specified directory
 to rebuild its cache, right? :)

Well - the problem was my own blindness.  There was a LD_LIBRARY variable
in .bashrc which seems to have messed up the linux path stuff. Get rid of
that, run the ldconfig just to be sure, and all works as it should.  I
had *completely* forgotten it was there - have just moved to FreeBSD from
Linux, after three years of dithering!, and had not removed that line
when I brought my .bashrc with me.

Sorry for the noise, and *many* thanks for all the help - as always I've
learned some useful things.


atb



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Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington

FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date


Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message


,
| /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
| loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
| invalid
`

Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 

/usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6

but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.

Can anyone help me to fix this?


atb



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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date


 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message


 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `

 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 

 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6

 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.

 Can anyone help me to fix this?

 kldload linux

 or build it into your kernel.



Thanks Kris - trouble is its already there!

glynthebearded# kldload linux
kldload: can't load linux: File exists

(via rc.conf)

Is it possible to use libmap.conf to persuade  a Linbux binary to use a
Linux library, or is that not the way to go?








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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message
 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `
 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 

 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.

 kldload linux
 or build it into your kernel.

 Thanks Kris - trouble is its already there!

 No, that is not necessary.  Next thing to check is that /usr/X11R6 is
 before /usr/local in your linux ldconfig search path.


Yes, it is right where it should be

$cat /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf

include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
/lib
/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib


that include statement leads to /usr/X11R6

many thanks


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 (via rc.conf)

 Is it possible to use libmap.conf to persuade  a Linbux binary to use a
 Linux library, or is that not the way to go?

 compile openoffice from ports. it works fine - natively.

Thanks - yes it does, but it means tying up this by no means over-powered
system for a couple of days while it builds. The Linux version was
working nicely till sometime over the weekend.  Then something happened -
I probably upgraded a port which changed something I hadn't noticed.


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 system for a couple of days while it builds. The Linux version was

 less than 16h on 1200Mhz CPU.

LOL - maybe I exaggerated :-) But this one has a 900Mhz CPU, and this is
the fastest I have available.  

atb

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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:05:43 Glyn Millington wrote:
  Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error
  message ,
 
  | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error
  | while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF
  | file OS ABI invalid
 
  `
 that include statement leads to /usr/X11R6

Wow - can I just check that I have this right before I do it?!



 Best fix:
 rm /usr/X11R6

get rid of /usr/X11R6, which on a system-wide basis is a link to /usr/local



 touch /usr/X11R6

Create an empty  *file* /usr/X11R6




 chflags schg /usr/X11R6

make it system-immutable

 /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib (just to force the linker to re-read the 
 dupes).

Merge new stuf in the /usr/local/lib directory into the hints file






 As a bonus, the old apps you still have pointing to /usr/X11R6 

But the app in question needs to get at 

/usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/

which is a directory contain a lot of libs - are you suggesting I remove
it?  Sorry if I'm being slow but want to be sure about this one!





 will now complain and be exposed and anything that wants to install or
 modify something in /usr/X11R6 will be exposed too.  I've done this
 about a week after I upgraded and it solved all the linux linker
 problems and only one app I had compiled from source rather then using
 a port, wasn't working anymore. Recompiled and no problemo.

Many thanks

atb

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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 10:14:54 Glyn Millington wrote:
 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date
 
 
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message
 
 
 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `
 
 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 
 
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 
 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.
 
 Can anyone help me to fix this?

 If /compat/linux/usr/local doesn't exist, perhaps making it a symlink
 to X11R6 does the trick.

Spot on!!Many thanks :-)

What I don't understand is why that works, when
/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf points at the right place in the very first
line!

,
| include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
| /lib
| /usr/lib
| /usr/local/lib
`

The only .conf file in  ld.so.conf.d is

xorg-x11-i386.conf

which contains the line

/usr/X11R6/lib

Is ldconfig ignoring the first line?

I'm grateful but puzzled - thanks again :-)



atb


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 15:48:58 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:05:43 Glyn Millington wrote:
   Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error
   message ,
  
   | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
   | error while loading shared libraries:
   | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid
  
   `
 
  that include statement leads to /usr/X11R6

 Wow - can I just check that I have this right before I do it?!

  Best fix:
  rm /usr/X11R6

 get rid of /usr/X11R6, which on a system-wide basis is a link to /usr/local

  touch /usr/X11R6

 Create an empty  *file* /usr/X11R6

  chflags schg /usr/X11R6

 make it system-immutable

  /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib (just to force the linker to re-read the
  dupes).

 Merge new stuf in the /usr/local/lib directory into the hints file

  As a bonus, the old apps you still have pointing to /usr/X11R6

 But the app in question needs to get at

 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/

 The app however looks for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfoo.so.1. If both exist in base 
 system and linux emulation, then the linker will hand it the first one it 
 finds, which because of the /usr/X11R6 symlink to /usr/local will be the 
 FreeBSD one.

ok - got it.

 And yes, Kris, this isn't the 'proper' way, but it's the way that works. I'd 
 be happy to know the proper way as all suggestions I found about 'fixing' 
 linux ldconfig setup generated bogus results (ie. fixed nothing) and this 
 fixed everything.

Me too!!

Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local got Openoffice
running but reaplay is giving the same kind of error :-(




 I always suspected this to be because the linker look up is correct, but the 
 actual file is handed in the base system not in the /compat/linux chroot, but 
 I haven't bothered to verify that.

OK - will await wisdom on this one :-)

atb and thanks again



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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 10:14:54 Glyn Millington wrote:
 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date
 
 
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message
 
 
 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `
 
 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 
 
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 
 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.
 
 Can anyone help me to fix this?

 If /compat/linux/usr/local doesn't exist, perhaps making it a symlink
 to X11R6 does the trick.

 Spot on!!Many thanks :-)

Whoops - spoke to soon :-)  Realplayer still doesn't get it!

Thanks for OO though.


atb




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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 16:50:51 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local got
 Openoffice running but reaplay is giving the same kind of error :-(

 Which error exactly?

This baby  (sorry - should have included it)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/compat/linux/bin/sh realplay

/usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared
libraries: /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid


I'll bet it wants this one :-)

/usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0


and of course I have just linked /usr/compat/linux/usr/local to X11R6 lol


Can I win on this one :-)

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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 16:34:11 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 10:14:54 Glyn Millington wrote:
 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date
 
 
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error
 message
 
 
 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `
 
 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 
 
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 
 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.
 
 Can anyone help me to fix this?

 If /compat/linux/usr/local doesn't exist, perhaps making it a
 symlink to X11R6 does the trick.
 
 Spot on!!Many thanks :-)
 
 What I don't understand is why that works, when
 /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf points at the right place in the very
 first line!

 I suspect some OO executable or lib has some search paths hardcoded
 which the linker checks before using the ldconfig cache. If you want
 you could check this with: objdump -p executable | grep RPATH

That gets me a 

objdump: soffice: File format not recognized

 Also, when a Linux program opens a file (i.e. libXext.so.6), FreeBSD
 first tries to find it under /compat/linux, then under /. So linker
 tries to open /usr/local/lib/libXext.so, but it didn't exist under
 /compat/linux so it got the FreeBSD libXext.so.

OK - tghatnk you, that bit I *do* understand.

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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mel wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 15:48:58 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:05:43 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error
 message ,

 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
 | error while loading shared libraries:
 | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid

 `
 that include statement leads to /usr/X11R6
 Wow - can I just check that I have this right before I do it?!

 Best fix:
 rm /usr/X11R6
 get rid of /usr/X11R6, which on a system-wide basis is a link to /usr/local

 touch /usr/X11R6
 Create an empty  *file* /usr/X11R6

 chflags schg /usr/X11R6
 make it system-immutable

 /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib (just to force the linker to re-read the
 dupes).
 Merge new stuf in the /usr/local/lib directory into the hints file

 As a bonus, the old apps you still have pointing to /usr/X11R6
 But the app in question needs to get at

 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/

 The app however looks for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfoo.so.1. If both exist
 in base system and linux emulation, then the linker will hand it the
 first one it finds, which because of the /usr/X11R6 symlink to
 /usr/local will be the FreeBSD one.

 The lookup order for linux binaries is /compat/linux/foo first, then
 /foo if the former does not exist.  So if /compat/linux/usr/X11R6
 exists, then it is seen by linux binaries (similarly for files below
 this path).  As far as I know, this file should be a directory, not a
 symlink.  Moreover, the desired libXext.so.6 lives in that
 directory. It is a symlink pointing to another file in the same
 directory.  


Just to summarise :-)

So far this description above fits my situation exactly - everything is where
you say it should be, and everything worked until a couple of days
ago. Having done a  portupgrade -akOP recently things appear tio have
gone wrong with the results as described originally.


For some reason  /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin

can't find the linux library which is where you describe it, until I
make a symlink, linking  /compat/linux/usr/local to X11R6 - then soffice
works but other things break


 If neither exist (or exist but are corrupted), then the linux binary
 will fall back to the bogus FreeBSD one in another search path.

But doesn't the above suggest that

A. It exists and
B. It works when soffice.bin can find it.

?

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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 17:49:02 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 16:50:51 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local got
 Openoffice running but reaplay is giving the same kind of error :-(

 Which error exactly?
 
 This baby  (sorry - should have included it)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/compat/linux/bin/sh realplay
 
 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared
 libraries: /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid
 
 
 I'll bet it wants this one :-)
 
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
 
 
 and of course I have just linked /usr/compat/linux/usr/local to X11R6
 lol 
 
 
 Can I win on this one :-)

 That's suspicious, realplayer just works for me. Do you have some LD_*
 variable defined in your environment?

Ah! (bangs head against wall!)   Yes I do:-

in ~/.bashrc  

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/share/squeak/3.7-7

Having removed that realplayer comes up with no problem.

Should have spotted that one :-( 


So many thanks for solving both my problems today!  


atb




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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mel wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 15:48:58 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:05:43 Glyn Millington wrote:
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error
 message ,

 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
 | error while loading shared libraries:
 | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid

 `
 that include statement leads to /usr/X11R6
 Wow - can I just check that I have this right before I do it?!

 Best fix:
 rm /usr/X11R6
 get rid of /usr/X11R6, which on a system-wide basis is a link to /usr/local

 touch /usr/X11R6
 Create an empty  *file* /usr/X11R6

 chflags schg /usr/X11R6
 make it system-immutable

 /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib (just to force the linker to re-read the
 dupes).
 Merge new stuf in the /usr/local/lib directory into the hints file

 As a bonus, the old apps you still have pointing to /usr/X11R6
 But the app in question needs to get at

 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/

 The app however looks for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfoo.so.1. If both exist
 in base system and linux emulation, then the linker will hand it the
 first one it finds, which because of the /usr/X11R6 symlink to
 /usr/local will be the FreeBSD one.

 The lookup order for linux binaries is /compat/linux/foo first, then
 /foo if the former does not exist.  So if /compat/linux/usr/X11R6
 exists, then it is seen by linux binaries (similarly for files below
 this path).  As far as I know, this file should be a directory, not a
 symlink.  Moreover, the desired libXext.so.6 lives in that
 directory. It is a symlink pointing to another file in the same
 directory.  If neither exist (or exist but are corrupted), then the
 linux binary will fall back to the bogus FreeBSD one in another search
 path.


Sorry Kris, I was in part plain wrong in my first reply to this one.

Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local fixed my
initial problem


 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
 | error while loading shared libraries:
 | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid

What I still don't get is why ldconfig doesn't find the the X11R6
directory, when /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf point at it


include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
/lib
/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib

it seems to be ignoring the first line.

Either there is a real problem here or the real problem is my ignorance,
and I'm not sure which it is!

with thanks yet again


atb


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:14:54 +0100 Glyn Millington wrote:


 FreeBSD 7.0 release, ports currently up-to-date
 Trying to launch Linux Open Office 2.4 I get the following error message

 ,
 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin: error while
 | loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI
 | invalid
 `

 Now I *think*   that what it ought to load is 
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 but it goes for the FreeBSD X extension lib instead.
 Can anyone help me to fix this?

 Please, show an output for:


Hi Boris,  thank you for taking an interest in my struggles :-)

Ok - here we go .


 -
 % uname -a

FreeBSD glynthebearded.millingtons.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE
#0: Mon Apr 7 21:33:37 BST 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GLYN1KERNEL i386

The changes in GLYNKERNEL from GENERIC relate only to acpi and apm.


 % pkg_info -xI 'linux'

linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary
linux-cairo-1.0.2   Linux cairo binary
linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library
linux-flashplugin-9.0r124 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin
linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig
linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib
linux-gtk2-2.6.10   GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary
linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_1 A high-color icon theme shell from the 
FreeDesktop project
linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
linux-nvu-1.0   A complete Web Authoring System
linux-openssl-0.9.7f SSL and crypto library (Linux Version)
linux-pango-1.10.2  Linux pango binary
linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks
linux-scim-libs-1.4.4 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux 
bin
linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.15,2 Sun Java Development Kit 1.5 for Linux
linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
linux_base-fc-4_13  Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64)


 % strings /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache | grep libXextlibXext.so.6

/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6

 % echo ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}

/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/share/squeak/3.7-7

 % sysctl -a | grep linux

hw.snd.compat_linux_mmap: 0
compat.linux.oss_version: 198144
compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2
compat.linux.osname: Linux






 -

 As well as 'cat your openoffice script' if it's not very long. If it
 is long then please give an URL to that file.

#!/bin/sh
/usr/compat/linux/bin/sh /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:16:51 +0100 Glyn Millington wrote:

  % echo ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
 /usr/local/lib:/usr/local/share/squeak/3.7-7

 The culprit is the first path. It results in non-standard linux
 path-finding. If you remove it all _linux_ troubles should go away.
 I said linux since assume that there was a reason why you has
 that path at the first place.


There was indeed - but thank you very much!I should have spotted
this one myself :-( but forgot it was there (an old entry I should have
removed.)



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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ah! (bangs head against wall!)   Yes I do:-
 
 in ~/.bashrc  
 
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/share/squeak/3.7-7
 
 Having removed that realplayer comes up with no problem.
 
 Should have spotted that one :-( 
 
 So many thanks for solving both my problems today!  

 :) Your welcome. Does OpenOffice actually still need that symlink now?

Will check that one later - must finish what I'm working on with OO
first!  

Many thanks again, and sorry to have bothered the list with this!


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Re: Linux compat library error: ELF file OS ABI invalid

2008-05-13 Thread Glyn Millington
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Sorry Kris, I was in part plain wrong in my first reply to this one.

 Linking /compat/linux/usr/X11R6 to /compat/linux/usr/local fixed my
 initial problem


 | /usr/compat/linux/opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin:
 | error while loading shared libraries:
 | /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid

 What I still don't get is why ldconfig doesn't find the the X11R6
 directory, when /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf point at it


 include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
 /lib
 /usr/lib
 /usr/local/lib

 it seems to be ignoring the first line.

 Either there is a real problem here or the real problem is my ignorance,
 and I'm not sure which it is!


It was my ignorance plus an entry in ~/.bashrc about which I had totally
forgotten.   Apologies all round I'm afraid 

Many thanks - 

atb



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Re: X11 installation error

2008-05-05 Thread Glyn Millington
Ruel Luchavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I already try it but the server reply me an error:

 Error:  FTP Unable to get
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/Latest/
   xorg.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/
   pub/FreeBSD/i386/packages6.2-release/Latest/xorg.tbz' by URL

 can anyone Help me to solve it..

Is there something odd going on in your package database? Have you tried
a 

#pkgdb -F ?


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OPen Office 2.0 via packages

2005-11-04 Thread Glyn Millington


Greetings!

For the sake of a continuing happy marriage !  I really need to install
OPenOffice 2 on a machine at home - soon to be running FreeBSD 6.0 (i386)
:-)  I can't build the port because the hard drive is too small - just
enough spare space for the compiling. 

Is it possible to do this via packages? Can anyone give me pointers as
to what packages I need, what bits of Java are necessary for a
pre-compiled package?  Is it possible to do this via packages at all?

Thanks in advance

atb

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Re: OPen Office 2.0 via packages

2005-11-04 Thread Glyn Millington
Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just try to pkg_add it. OO doesn't require Java to run,
 only to build. 

Brilliant!!   This (about Java) was  what I needed to know.



 There are some run-dependencies, you can see them here:
 http://www.freshports.org/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/

Sorry - should have found this myself!  Still learning about the
resources


Many thanks for a marriage saved :-)

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Re: interesting past 4 hours...

2005-10-15 Thread Glyn Millington
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I'll give xfce a try.  Again.  I  played with it months ago
   but gave up on it after a few days.  Can I run all KDE-ware 
   and Gnome suites too?

Hi Gary,

I'm running Xfce4 over here on Slackware, and there are no problems
firing up KDE apps as needed. 

A neat thing if you have python aboard is the MenuMaker script

http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/

,
| MenuMaker is utility written entirely in Python that scans through the
| system for installed programs and generates menu for specified X window
| manager. It is by far more superior to existing solutions in terms of
| knowledge base size, maintainability and extensibility, and has a number
| of features that have no counterparts in its class. MenuMaker is intended
| for users of lightweight *NIX graphical desktop environments.
`

But it will scoop up all your KDE and Gnome apps too :-)  It certainly
beats churning out menus by hand!  It works with Fluxbox, openbox, Icewm,
Windowmaker, Xfce and Xfce4...


Good luck

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Re: TrueType fonts sources

2005-05-10 Thread Glyn Millington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 OK I have installed the font server etc -- all I need are some
 TrueTypefonts to put in the TT directory. Does anyone know:
 1.where can I get them.
 2. How I can convert my TT fonts on my ms$  system to TT for freebsd.

1. Have a look in /usr/ports/x11-fonts 

webfonts and xorgfonts-truetype  should get you started



2. It's all there in section 5.5 of the Handbook, which may well be on
   your hard-drive @ 

/usr/share/doc/handbook/x-fonts.html


Good luck - and have a good trip :-)

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Re: Best upgrade strategy

2005-04-13 Thread Glyn Millington
jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:

Greetings!

I'm a newcomer to FreeBSD, an immigrant from the wonderful world of
Slackware Linux. Finished installing on Sunday!

I wanted to make sure the system was up to date with regard to security
fixes etc so used cvsup to upgrade  source and re-built the kernel - it
all went like a dream - what a system!!  What documentation!!


 Hold on,  just the kernel or the kernel and world.  You have to keep 
 these in sync on FreeBSD.
 Just checking because I hear you can just upgrade the linux kernel to 
 your hearts content without messing with the other stuff on the system.

Bless you, no, I did the lot! Buildworld, installworld, the works as
described in the handbook.  And was staggered by how straightforward it
was, to be honest.

No, my question was about swapping the target for cvsup at the point when
5.4 becomes a production release - can I then simply track 5.4 for
security releases etc or will that cause complications with a system that
has tracked 5-stable for the few days it has been in existence.  It sems
form the various replies I've had that there should be no problem.

Many thanks





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Best upgrade strategy

2005-04-12 Thread Glyn Millington

Greetings!

I'm a newcomer to FreeBSD, an immigrant from the wonderful world of
Slackware Linux. Finished installing on Sunday!

I wanted to make sure the system was up to date with regard to security
fixes etc so used cvsup to upgrade  source and re-built the kernel - it
all went like a dream - what a system!!  What documentation!!

Enough rapture!  Here's the question Having installed 5.3 from cd, I
performed the above upgrade once and found that I was at version 6
Current! Back to the drawing board and started again with the following
line in my cvsup file

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5

Better - I only find myself with a pre-release 5.4 :-)

That is fine, but at the point when 5.4 becomes the production release, I
would like simply to track that for security fixes etc rather than follow
the stable developement branch.

Can I acheive that simply by putting


*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4

into my cvsup file, at the right time -ie as soon as 5.4 becomes
a production release? ?  Or will there be such
complications that it would be best to perform yet another install (which
is smooth but slow on my set-up).

Thanks in advance





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Re: Best upgrade strategy

2005-04-12 Thread Glyn Millington
Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 That is fine, but at the point when 5.4 becomes the production release, I
 would like simply to track that for security fixes etc rather than follow
 the stable developement branch.
 Can I acheive that simply by putting
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4
 into my cvsup file, at the right time -ie as soon as 5.4 becomes
 a production release? ?  Or will there be such
 complications that it would be best to perform yet another install (which
 is smooth but slow on my set-up).


 Yes, you can use RELENG_5_4 tag to track
 security fixes when 5.4 is released. It
 goes smoothly most of the times, some
 people even managed to upgrade from
 4.x to 5.x without reinstalling (ok,
 _that_ wasn't smooth). Just look through
 release notes, src/UPDATING and so on,
 and use mergemaster carefully.

Thanks Andrew - just needed to check this with those who know, to make
sure I had not miscontrued the Handbook!

atb

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Re: Very slow printing with stock FreeBSD5.3 + CUPS + Gimp-Print + HPDeskJet612C

2005-04-11 Thread Glyn Millington
Anthony M. Agelastos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Interrupt storm detected on irq7: lpt0; throttling interrupt source

1. Back up /boot/device.hints
2. In device hints add a line

hint.ppc.0.flags=0x20

AFTER the line which says

hint.ppc.0.irq=7

3. save and reboot

hth


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Re: Very slow printing with stock FreeBSD5.3 + CUPS + Gimp-Print + HPDeskJet612C

2005-04-11 Thread Glyn Millington
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:36:32AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
 Anthony M. Agelastos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Interrupt storm detected on irq7: lpt0; throttling interrupt source

 1. Back up /boot/device.hints
 2. In device hints add a line
 
 hint.ppc.0.flags=0x20

 Flags=0x20 means disabling IRQ and use polling instead. If you add 0x08
 it also puts the port in enhanced capability mode. So try flag=0x28, and
 use 0x20 if that doesn't work.

 AFTER the line which says
 
 hint.ppc.0.irq=7

 You can remove this line, because flags=0x20 instructs the driver to use
 polling instead of an interrupt line.

Right!!

Many thanks.

Can you point me to the docs for this?  I'm very new to FreeBSD finished
install with this printing problem  yesterday!

atb

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Re: Very slow printing with stock FreeBSD5.3 + CUPS + Gimp-Print + HPDeskJet612C

2005-04-11 Thread Glyn Millington
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Can you point me to the docs for this?  I'm very new to FreeBSD finished
 install with this printing problem  yesterday!

 The flags for the ppc driver are documented in the ppc(4) manual
 page. Just run 'man ppc' from the console or an xterm to view it.

 More information on setting up printers can be found in §9.3 of the
 Handbook.

 Some things that I learned while setting up my FreeBSD workstation are
 recorded at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/

Just the job!

Many thanks

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Re: console mail client

2005-04-02 Thread Glyn Millington
Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on

 -a mail client (mutt) 
 -a mail sender (sendmail)
 -a mail storage (postfix)
 -a mail receiver (fetchmail)

As Chris said, not quite.

The place to _begin_ on all this is is the Handbook

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-using.html

I'm assuming you are on a  machine linking to an ISP's smtp and pop3
servers?

To set up e-mail as God intended what you need in brief is

A. A mail transport agent - sendmail OR postfix, (or exim or even qmail)
but not both.  This will hand off the e-mail once you have posted it and
will take care of one part of its journey into your computer/s.

B. A Mail reader/composer, an MUA, mail user agent.  Lots of these to
choose from, mutt or elm being old standbyes.

C. Something to fetch the mail if you are using your ISP's pop3 server
   Fetchmail is good.

D. Something to sort the mail - procmail is a good mail processor


Coming in the process  is something like:-


Fetchmail - sendmail/postfix - procmail - mutt

There are opportunities for filtering spam at different points in this
chain.

The outward move is simpler

mutt - sendmail - your ISP


OR   you can use something like Mozilla Thunderbird which is an
all-in-one mail system by itself, and is possibly easier to set up.

Good luck!

atb






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Re: Unsubscribe?

2005-03-25 Thread Glyn Millington
Doug Paquette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Group,

 Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does
 anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the
 various free bsd mailing lists?

 Thanks

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Re: Postfix partial status error in syslog

2005-03-21 Thread Glyn Millington
Matt Rechkemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone else out there running Postfix, seeing this in their syslogs?
 postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes)
 postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes)

 It seems to occur during any Postfix operation, delivering mail, running a
 cleanup and so forth.  Mail doesn't seem to be affected on my system, so I
 wonder if this is just some kind of debug warning (possibly)?

Hi Matt,

This thread might shed a little consolatory light?

http://tinyurl.com/6b4vj


hth

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