Re: backup solution for home FreeBSD server
Vlad Skvortsov writes: http://www.addonics.com/products/Saturn/aeschd.asp Yes, I'm aware of that. I guess my question was: why did you refer to this particular enclosure? Or you just happen to have this one and this is the reason? I happen to have this one; it's possible, even likely, similar products are made by others. (As there is no standard nomenclature, finding them by, say, Google was more work than I was willing to do,) And the answer to: can you say if there is any significant advantage of this Saturn enclosures over standard ones, besides the cyphering feature? would be No.. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup solution for home FreeBSD server
Garrett Cooper writes: Have you also considered tape backup as well as standard disks? Tapes are a bit more expensive, but overall a more static backup / archiving solution than disks. Besides, they're cheaper in the long run from what remember. The problem is: tapes are slow; backing up 30 gbytes to a DLT-III used to take 3-4 hours. Or rather the cost of a tape system seems to increase as the square of the transfer speed; a (new) LTO-2 drive will cost $1000+$35/tape. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup solution for home FreeBSD server
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:12:11AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Garrett Cooper writes: Have you also considered tape backup as well as standard disks? Tapes are a bit more expensive, but overall a more static backup / archiving solution than disks. Besides, they're cheaper in the long run from what remember. The problem is: tapes are slow; backing up 30 gbytes to a DLT-III used to take 3-4 hours. Or rather the cost of a tape system seems to increase as the square of the transfer speed; a (new) LTO-2 drive will cost $1000+$35/tape. LTO is pretty fast, though it doesn't seem to have the fast search that was about the only thing I liked about DAT/DDS tape. But the cost of LTO for a home system is hard to swallow. You could get about a dozen USB drives to rotate for a similar cost. Tapes are nice for archiving or long term storage though. Their data format seems less likely to change over time than disk. jerry Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup solution for home FreeBSD server
Get a couple of 150G USB disks. They work great, you can use dump/restore or just pax -r -w to copy stuff to the disks. Have you also considered tape backup as well as standard disks? I used to use DLT tapes, and I looked at AIT before I decided on disks. The disks have a couple of advantages that would be hard to match with tape. One is that the backups are completely unattended; I have two USB drives plugged in at a time, and some little scripts wake up each night, figure out which disk has the least recent backups, delete enough old stuff to make room for a new backup, and then use pax -r -w to make the backup from each of the computers on my LAN. The only manual work I need to do is to swap a drive with the one in my safe deposit box once a week. Also, since they're disks, getting files back from a backup is a snap, just cp them from the most recent backup copy. The three disks together cost under $500, and if I need more backup space, I can just buy some more larger ones. To get approximately the same unattended backups I have with my USB disks I would need an AIT jukebox for about $4000. Getting files back would be much more painful, since I would have to spin through an entire dump or cpio image to find a file. Tapes make sense if you have a vast amount of data, multiple terabytes. You need a lot of terabytes before the cheaper media makes up for the much more expensive drives, and it's still nowhere near as convenient as disks. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[please CC: me, I'm not on the list] Hi! I'm looking for an external backup solution for my FreeBSD file server. I want it to be pluggable via USB interface (I'd share it with a couple of servers). I'd also like to be able to move backups to an off-site storage, so external HDD won't probably work for me. My data size is currently about 50G, but I expect it to grow to about 250G. My price range is below $300. Suggestions? Thanks! -- Vlad Skvortsov, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://vss.73rus.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
backup solution for home FreeBSD server
Vlad Skvortsov writes: I'm looking for an external backup solution for my FreeBSD file server. I want it to be pluggable via USB interface (I'd share it with a couple of servers). I'd also like to be able to move backups to an off-site storage, so external HDD won't probably work for me. My data size is currently about 50G, but I expect it to grow to about 250G. My price range is below $300. Suggestions? Check out Addonics, particularly the Saturn system. I have one of these: http://www.addonics.com/products/Saturn/aeschd.asp and it's worked just fine - with one exception - for the last several months. The exception is transfer speed: for reasons confounding diagnosis, I am only getting ~2mbytes/sec across a USB 2.0 connection. Now if I could only find a source for inexpensive ($20) 80 Gbyte IDE hard drives Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup solution for home FreeBSD server
I'm looking for an external backup solution for my FreeBSD file server. I want it to be pluggable via USB interface (I'd share it with a couple of servers). I'd also like to be able to move backups to an off-site storage, so external HDD won't probably work for me. My data size is currently about 50G, but I expect it to grow to about 250G. My price range is below $300. Get a couple of 150G USB disks. They work great, you can use dump/restore or just pax -r -w to copy stuff to the disks. I'm a big fan of offsite storage, so I actually have three USB disks. I leave two plugged into the computer so it can dump on alternate nights, and put one in my bank safe deposit box. Every week or so I take one of the two disks down to the bank and swap. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remote access to config FreeBSD server
Hi folks, FreeBSD-6.2-amd64 I'm going to install the captioned OS as server, web/mail/database etc., for test purpose and without X. I'm prepared to connect a workstation for fine tuning the server. Can I use a Linux workstation to do the job because I have no FreeBSD workstation here? OR I must run a FreeBSD workstation. If YES, pls advise where can I find relevent steps to do the job. I'll have SSH enabled on the server. I need GUI browser to connect outside World for searching documents and seeking help. I found elinks not easy to read html website. TIA B.R. satimis -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Remote-access-to-config-FreeBSD-server-tf3256509.html#a9053872 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote access to config FreeBSD server
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:26:02 -0800 (PST) satimis wrote: I'm going to install the captioned OS as server, web/mail/database etc., for test purpose and without X. I'm prepared to connect a workstation for fine tuning the server. Can I use a Linux workstation to do the job because I have no FreeBSD workstation here? OR I must run a FreeBSD workstation. If YES, pls advise where can I find relevent steps to do the job. I'll have SSH enabled on the server. I am not quite sure what your problem is here. You can use any ssh-client on any OS when connecting to the ssh-server of you FreeBSD box. So Linux is fine, but Windows would also be, if you use a real ssh-client for that like PuTTY. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote access to config FreeBSD server
--On Monday, February 19, 2007 19:26:02 -0800 satimis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, FreeBSD-6.2-amd64 I'm going to install the captioned OS as server, web/mail/database etc., for test purpose and without X. I'm prepared to connect a workstation for fine tuning the server. Can I use a Linux workstation to do the job because I have no FreeBSD workstation here? OR I must run a FreeBSD workstation. If YES, pls advise where can I find relevent steps to do the job. I'll have SSH enabled on the server. You can use anything that can run an ssh client. Even Windows can do that - if you install one. I need GUI browser to connect outside World for searching documents and seeking help. I found elinks not easy to read html website. You can't run a GUI browser without running X. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: Remote access to config FreeBSD server
[mailed and posted] On Feb 20, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, February 19, 2007 19:26:02 -0800 satimis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need GUI browser to connect outside World for searching documents and seeking help. I found elinks not easy to read html website. You can't run a GUI browser without running X. We should clarify for satimis that he only needs to run an X11 server on the machine he is SSHing from. The FreeBSD box does not need to running X11. Personally, I haven't found a good way to work out the minimal X11 installation needed for building and running clients (like Firefox) without ending up building and installing (and thus maintaining) stuff that I don't need (like an X11 server or window managers). If I had a better handle on how to examine dependencies, I could probably do a cleaner installation. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
On 2/10/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? Maybe that's an option for you, but I'm looking at spending a minimum of another $60 every month to my ISP if I want those services. I haven't been sufficiently impressed to feel that they warrant that extra fee. Maybe they haven't significantly impressed you because you bought the cheap service? Hell - $60 compared to a colo feel of $50? (the cheapest I've seen someone post here) In other words, you have a choice between actually having the physical box right there, vs having it 1000 miles away, and your in a -learning- situation? And your going to cut off your nose to spite your face just because of some issue with your ISP? What are they currently doing to you to warrant that? Without knowing your connectivity and how good/reliable/bad it is it's difficult to make a judgement call. But, I can say from experience that there isn't any -TECHNICAL- reason that cheaper DSL or cable connectivity can't be made as reliable as, say, a T1. There's not many places in the United States that you can't find multiple competing broadband providers. It's a lot different overseas, but here in the US if you don't like your ISP there's usually another one around the corner. Ted But the problem in the US is that the physical lines are owned by one company that all other providers are at the mercy of. There are federal regulations in place to try to keep the line owners (Verizon, SBC, etc.) from abusing their powers, but they are pretty weak. I had this exact situation bite a customer of mine not too long ago. They hosted their server out of their office on DSL with a static IP through Speakeasy (a reseller). Speakeasy informed them that the people that owned the lines (Covad) had sold them to Verizon and that they would have to switch DSL modems, but that the outage should be minimal. I told them to plan for a full day of outage (even though the rep told us 2-3 hours), so they did. Well, when they switched over, something was wrong and the new modem would not connect. After several hours on the phone with Speakeasy, Speakeasy had determined that it was a problem at the CO and that Verizon would have to fix it. We could not call Verizon, they would not speak to us and Speakeasy only had the ability to submit trouble tickets and escalate them (common to all third party providers in our area). Although we screamed and shouted and threatened lawsuits (the customer was a law firm), there was nothing Speakeasy could do. I was then informed that if we had a T1, regulations would require a 24 hour response time, but since this was only Business DSL without a SLA (service level agreement), that it could be a week or two before they got someone to check it out at the CO. Long story short, they were out for a week. Finally it was fixed. We learned then and there that although they may call it Business class DSL and although the company you write your check to every month may have a stellar customer service record, if there is a problem in the last mile or at the CO, then you are at the mercy of whatever major telco owns your lines, and that if you do not have a T1 or higher, or at least DSL service with a SLA, then you are treated no better that a residential customer in terms of returning you back to service (could be 1-2 weeks). I think the OP just wanted a box to tinker with (I would still recommend johncomanies.com as an option), so uptime may not be a huge issue. I just thought I would share the lesson I learned that although they call it Business DSL, give you a static IP and charge you 5x the price for the same speeds, it doesn't always guarantee the same reliability that a T1 or colo facility will have. Preston ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
- Original Message - From: Preston Hagar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? On 2/10/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? Maybe that's an option for you, but I'm looking at spending a minimum of another $60 every month to my ISP if I want those services. I haven't been sufficiently impressed to feel that they warrant that extra fee. Maybe they haven't significantly impressed you because you bought the cheap service? Hell - $60 compared to a colo feel of $50? (the cheapest I've seen someone post here) In other words, you have a choice between actually having the physical box right there, vs having it 1000 miles away, and your in a -learning- situation? And your going to cut off your nose to spite your face just because of some issue with your ISP? What are they currently doing to you to warrant that? Without knowing your connectivity and how good/reliable/bad it is it's difficult to make a judgement call. But, I can say from experience that there isn't any -TECHNICAL- reason that cheaper DSL or cable connectivity can't be made as reliable as, say, a T1. There's not many places in the United States that you can't find multiple competing broadband providers. It's a lot different overseas, but here in the US if you don't like your ISP there's usually another one around the corner. Ted But the problem in the US is that the physical lines are owned by one company that all other providers are at the mercy of. There are federal regulations in place to try to keep the line owners (Verizon, SBC, etc.) from abusing their powers, but they are pretty weak. I had this exact situation bite a customer of mine not too long ago. They hosted their server out of their office on DSL with a static IP through Speakeasy (a reseller). Speakeasy informed them that the people that owned the lines (Covad) had sold them to Verizon and that they would have to switch DSL modems, but that the outage should be minimal. I told them to plan for a full day of outage (even though the rep told us 2-3 hours), so they did. Well, when they switched over, something was wrong and the new modem would not connect. After several hours on the phone with Speakeasy, Speakeasy had determined that it was a problem at the CO and that Verizon would have to fix it. We could not call Verizon, they would not speak to us and Speakeasy only had the ability to submit trouble tickets and escalate them (common to all third party providers in our area). Although we screamed and shouted and threatened lawsuits (the customer was a law firm), there was nothing Speakeasy could do. I was then informed that if we had a T1, regulations would require a 24 hour response time, but since this was only Business DSL without a SLA (service level agreement), that it could be a week or two before they got someone to check it out at the CO. Long story short, they were out for a week. Finally it was fixed. We learned then and there that although they may call it Business class DSL and although the company you write your check to every month may have a stellar customer service record, if there is a problem in the last mile or at the CO, then you are at the mercy of whatever major telco owns your lines, and that if you do not have a T1 or higher, or at least DSL service with a SLA, then you are treated no better that a residential customer in terms of returning you back to service (could be 1-2 weeks). I hate to spoil your rant, (it's a great rant, by the way) but I've been dealing with Verizon for years. What Speakeasy told you wasn't true. Yes, Verizon has an extensive trouble ticket system and they tell all their ISPs that they have to use it. However, Verizon also has a secret set of phone numbers that are direct lines to the support techs. (and no, I ain't giving you or anyone those numbers) For example I just had a situation like that last week - customer DSL line problem. I submitted the trouble ticket then called Verizon with the ticket number and got it fixed in a half hour. If SpeakEasy really wanted to get the 'direct lines to God' phone numbers all they would have had to do is call their Verizon sales rep and ask for them. That's what we did, and SpeakEasy is a hell of a lot bigger than us, and would have a lot more pull so I cannot imagine Verizon telling them to kiss off. Qwest works the same way as well. They have one set of tech numbers for the general public and another set for the ISP's that know how to work the system, and a byzantine
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
- Original Message - From: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? Maybe that's an option for you, but I'm looking at spending a minimum of another $60 every month to my ISP if I want those services. I haven't been sufficiently impressed to feel that they warrant that extra fee. Maybe they haven't significantly impressed you because you bought the cheap service? Hell - $60 compared to a colo feel of $50? (the cheapest I've seen someone post here) In other words, you have a choice between actually having the physical box right there, vs having it 1000 miles away, and your in a -learning- situation? And your going to cut off your nose to spite your face just because of some issue with your ISP? What are they currently doing to you to warrant that? Without knowing your connectivity and how good/reliable/bad it is it's difficult to make a judgement call. But, I can say from experience that there isn't any -TECHNICAL- reason that cheaper DSL or cable connectivity can't be made as reliable as, say, a T1. There's not many places in the United States that you can't find multiple competing broadband providers. It's a lot different overseas, but here in the US if you don't like your ISP there's usually another one around the corner. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? If you don't mind the lack of vidio (serial connection or network) then maybe one of these babies might be for you. I want to experement with one with a pci or better slot for a full home server for off the grid homes. Most of these boxes use less than 5 watts total. SBC http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8498487406.html On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:34:47PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... It does if you buy an ISP account that includes a static IP and does DNS for you or you set up your own DNS and register the server. jerry I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:28 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:34:47PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... It does if you buy an ISP account that includes a static IP and does DNS for you or you set up your own DNS and register the server. But that might actually cost a whole extra $6 a month and isn't it preferable to spend $100 a month at some colo house? Ted Maybe that's an option for you, but I'm looking at spending a minimum of another $60 every month to my ISP if I want those services. I haven't been sufficiently impressed to feel that they warrant that extra fee. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: positron router malfunction ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:34:47PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... It does if you buy an ISP account that includes a static IP and does DNS for you or you set up your own DNS and register the server. jerry I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
I'm looking to rent a low-cost FreeBSD dedicated server or VPS with root access. For a VPS, I realize this is really psuedo-root access. I once rented a VPS on a FreeBSD box that was split into virtual boxes using jail, but wasn't happy with it. So, if it's not a dedicated box, I'm looking for something like Virtuozzo, Xen, vmware running FreeBSD as a guest OS, etc. The box doesn't have to be super-fast or have lots of disk space: just looking for something that will let me play around with ports, pf, run experiments, etc Does anyone have any suggestions? Not sure if it's low-cost, but I've had a box at layeredtech.com for over a year now and been pretty happy with them... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
On 2/7/07, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 07 February 2007 23:10, Peter Clark wrote: Is this up your alley? http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_vps.html I use this service and highly recommend it, but it definitely falls under the jail category. They've modified the stock FreeBSD jails pretty heavily and most of the time it's not obvious you're running in a jail, but if you want to do anything like create virtual interfaces, use your own mountpoints or (as the OP mentioned) experiment with firewall setups you'll be out of luck. JC does also offer dedicated servers on which they're more than happy to install and support FreeBSD, but I'm not sure that meets the low-cost requirement. JN I would second the John Companies. Also another good one to look at is sevenl.net I had a Ubuntu server there for a while and they were great. They only have FreeBSD as a dedicated option though, no VPS. The dedicated starts at $81 a month, so that may be a little more than you want to spend. Preston ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Jerry McAllister wrote: The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... It does if you buy an ISP account that includes a static IP and does DNS for you or you set up your own DNS and register the server. jerry I wish that I had that option. I live three blocks away from DisneyLand, and can't get DSL. That leaves Time Warner Cable, and they want highway robbery for a static IP-- at least $120 a month. For that much I'll colocate. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
LayeredTech.com (https://order.layeredtech.com/servers.lt?categoryId=4). If your not in a hurry watch to forums at layeredtech for specials. One special for $59.00, just sold out (http://layer0.layeredtech.com/showthread.php?t=5016) . - Original Message - From: Kelly Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? I'm looking to rent a low-cost FreeBSD dedicated server or VPS with root access. For a VPS, I realize this is really psuedo-root access. I once rented a VPS on a FreeBSD box that was split into virtual boxes using jail, but wasn't happy with it. So, if it's not a dedicated box, I'm looking for something like Virtuozzo, Xen, vmware running FreeBSD as a guest OS, etc. The box doesn't have to be super-fast or have lots of disk space: just looking for something that will let me play around with ports, pf, run experiments, etc Does anyone have any suggestions? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
- Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:28 AM Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:34:47PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... It does if you buy an ISP account that includes a static IP and does DNS for you or you set up your own DNS and register the server. But that might actually cost a whole extra $6 a month and isn't it preferable to spend $100 a month at some colo house? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
I'm looking to rent a low-cost FreeBSD dedicated server or VPS with root access. For a VPS, I realize this is really psuedo-root access. I once rented a VPS on a FreeBSD box that was split into virtual boxes using jail, but wasn't happy with it. So, if it's not a dedicated box, I'm looking for something like Virtuozzo, Xen, vmware running FreeBSD as a guest OS, etc. The box doesn't have to be super-fast or have lots of disk space: just looking for something that will let me play around with ports, pf, run experiments, etc Does anyone have any suggestions? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek At 07:01 PM 2/7/2007, Kelly Jones wrote: I'm looking to rent a low-cost FreeBSD dedicated server or VPS with root access. For a VPS, I realize this is really psuedo-root access. I once rented a VPS on a FreeBSD box that was split into virtual boxes using jail, but wasn't happy with it. So, if it's not a dedicated box, I'm looking for something like Virtuozzo, Xen, vmware running FreeBSD as a guest OS, etc. The box doesn't have to be super-fast or have lots of disk space: just looking for something that will let me play around with ports, pf, run experiments, etc Does anyone have any suggestions? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Thanks, Derek. I'm not looking to run this machine from home or to co-locate an existing box (though I suppose I could do that). As Jay mentions, I'm looking for something like: http://tektonic.net/unmanaged.html http://www.leeware.com/vps100.html http://rosehosting.com/virtserv.html (all bad examples because none of them offer FreeBSD) -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. On 2/7/07, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Kelly Jones wrote: I'm looking to rent a low-cost FreeBSD dedicated server or VPS with root access. For a VPS, I realize this is really psuedo-root access. I once rented a VPS on a FreeBSD box that was split into virtual boxes using jail, but wasn't happy with it. So, if it's not a dedicated box, I'm looking for something like Virtuozzo, Xen, vmware running FreeBSD as a guest OS, etc. The box doesn't have to be super-fast or have lots of disk space: just looking for something that will let me play around with ports, pf, run experiments, etc Does anyone have any suggestions? I have a box at sonic.net - their standard co-lo box is Linux but if you ask they will install FreeBSD for you on the understanding that they won't support OS problems. See https://tools.sonic.net/signup/1u/ - the nice thing about sonic is you get to talk to real people if you have support issues - their CEO even answers questions in the sonic.* newsgroups. John I don't work for them - I'm just a happy customer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Try CalPOP... www.calpop.com. They have dedicated P4 3 GHz servers for $125/month no contract with 10MBPS unmetered connectivity with your choice of OS. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:53 PM To: Jay Chandler Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS? Thanks, Derek. I'm not looking to run this machine from home or to co-locate an existing box (though I suppose I could do that). As Jay mentions, I'm looking for something like: http://tektonic.net/unmanaged.html http://www.leeware.com/vps100.html http://rosehosting.com/virtserv.html (all bad examples because none of them offer FreeBSD) -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. On 2/7/07, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
Is this up your alley? http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_vps.html Thanks, Derek. I'm not looking to run this machine from home or to co-locate an existing box (though I suppose I could do that). As Jay mentions, I'm looking for something like: http://tektonic.net/unmanaged.html http://www.leeware.com/vps100.html http://rosehosting.com/virtserv.html (all bad examples because none of them offer FreeBSD) -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. On 2/7/07, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: FreeBSD runs on most i386 based hardware as long as you have 64 MB ram or more. So you can recycle an old desktop PC to run FreeBSD and then have at it. Or buy a cheap new desktop or refurbished. -Derek The problem with this approach is that it doesn't get you a static IP with proper rDNS and a host of other things... I'd have interest in the answer to this question as well, as a jailed environment isn't quite what I want either. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Excuse: Too many interrupts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low-cost dedicated FreeBSD server or non-jail VPS?
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 23:10, Peter Clark wrote: Is this up your alley? http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_vps.html I use this service and highly recommend it, but it definitely falls under the jail category. They've modified the stock FreeBSD jails pretty heavily and most of the time it's not obvious you're running in a jail, but if you want to do anything like create virtual interfaces, use your own mountpoints or (as the OP mentioned) experiment with firewall setups you'll be out of luck. JC does also offer dedicated servers on which they're more than happy to install and support FreeBSD, but I'm not sure that meets the low-cost requirement. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD server configuration
Hi everyone! I need to buy a server for a medium-sized network. The server will run FreeBSD but I'm not quite sure wich. It will need to support 500 Mbps upload and 500 Mbps dowload, perhaps more, and NAT at 50-60 Mbps, firewall, bandwidth shaping and logging with netflows. I want to buy a dual-core Xeon at around 3 GHz. Now, I heared that FreeBSD doesn't support polling along with SMP. Question is: does FreeBSD support both SMP and polling in version 6.2? And if yes how good? Or, will the processing power of the dual core make up for the loss of the polling? Wich firewall and/or NAT software if more fit for SMP in this case? Will a single-core Xeon at 3.6 GHz hold up for these demands? Thanks for you time! Alex. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:10, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Wasp King wrote: 1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server? Marcus Ranum suggests using wirecutters on the ethernet cable. If the server is internet-reachable, then it can be port-scanned. Less drastic measures than removing it from the network entirely would including configuring a firewall to block all ports except those absolutely required for the necessary functions which the machine needs to perform, and hardening the OS to reduce the potential exposure. 2. is stopping the response to pinging enough? No. 3. how to do I stop the server from responding to pinging? Use a firewall like ipfw or ipf to block ICMP traffic types 0 8: ipfw add 1 deny icmp from any to any icmptype 0,8 I find it a tad ironic that someone running FBSD 4.2 is worried about getting port scanned.or maybe that's why he is worried, since the laundry list of exploits and holes against a box running something that old and unsupported is fearsome. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
Josh Paetzel wrote: On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:10, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Wasp King wrote: 1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server? Marcus Ranum suggests using wirecutters on the ethernet cable. If the server is internet-reachable, then it can be port-scanned. Less drastic measures than removing it from the network entirely would including configuring a firewall to block all ports except those absolutely required for the necessary functions which the machine needs to perform, and hardening the OS to reduce the potential exposure. 2. is stopping the response to pinging enough? No. 3. how to do I stop the server from responding to pinging? Use a firewall like ipfw or ipf to block ICMP traffic types 0 8: ipfw add 1 deny icmp from any to any icmptype 0,8 I find it a tad ironic that someone running FBSD 4.2 is worried about getting port scanned.or maybe that's why he is worried, since the laundry list of exploits and holes against a box running something that old and unsupported is fearsome. It does make his machine a bit more obscure and harder to find, but that's nothing a little nmap / snort / tcpdump doesn't cure by making your traffic or ports in use visible. Plus, if someone knows you exist, preventing ICMP ping to your host won't prevent much of anything.. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server?
2. is stopping the response to pinging enough?
3. how to do I stop the server from responding to
pinging?
Running FreeBSD 4.2 and 6.1.
I changed the /etc/rc.network file to NO for
broadcast ping responses, and this did not work (still
responding to ping) when I rebooted:
case ${icmp_bmcastecho} in
[Yy][Ee][Ss])
echo -n ' broadcast ping responses=NO'
sysctl net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=1
/dev/null
;;
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Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
In response to Wasp King [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server?
Drive to their house and smash their computer.
2. is stopping the response to pinging enough?
No. In fact, not responding to ping is a bad idea. Disabling ping
responses violates certain RFCs and is a tactic taken by sysadmins
who should know better.
Additionally, a determined scanner won't care whether you respond to
ping or not, so it doesn't even gain you anything. nmap, probably
the most popular scanner out there, has an option to scan without
pinging, and even _recommends_ turning that on if you try to ping
and get no responses.
3. how to do I stop the server from responding to
pinging?
You can always use pf or ipfw, if you _really_ want to go down that
road.
Running FreeBSD 4.2 and 6.1.
I changed the /etc/rc.network file to NO for
broadcast ping responses, and this did not work (still
responding to ping) when I rebooted:
case ${icmp_bmcastecho} in
[Yy][Ee][Ss])
echo -n ' broadcast ping responses=NO'
sysctl net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=1
/dev/null
That just stops it from responding to ping requests destine for the
broadcast address, which is a topic of some debate. It will still
respond to ping requests sent directly to it.
Anyway, the question that you didn't ask is how do I secure my system
from network attacks. The QD answer is:
1) only run network services that you really need
2) ensure those services are properly secured
If you do those two, who cares if you get portscanned?
--
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Wasp King wrote: 1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server? Marcus Ranum suggests using wirecutters on the ethernet cable. If the server is internet-reachable, then it can be port-scanned. Less drastic measures than removing it from the network entirely would including configuring a firewall to block all ports except those absolutely required for the necessary functions which the machine needs to perform, and hardening the OS to reduce the potential exposure. 2. is stopping the response to pinging enough? No. 3. how to do I stop the server from responding to pinging? Use a firewall like ipfw or ipf to block ICMP traffic types 0 8: ipfw add 1 deny icmp from any to any icmptype 0,8 -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
On Thursday 30 November 2006 12:55, Wasp King wrote:
1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server?
2. is stopping the response to pinging enough?
3. how to do I stop the server from responding to
pinging?
Running FreeBSD 4.2 and 6.1.
I changed the /etc/rc.network file to NO for
broadcast ping responses, and this did not work (still
responding to ping) when I rebooted:
case ${icmp_bmcastecho} in
[Yy][Ee][Ss])
echo -n ' broadcast ping responses=NO'
sysctl net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=1
/dev/null
Wasp,
Check out /usr/ports/security/portsentry to reject portscan attempts. By
default it uses /etc/hosts.deny, which is deprecated. But you can configure
it to run a command (KILL_ROUTE in portsentry.conf) to do just about
anything you want.
My KILL_ROUTE command is a perl script that sends syslog entries
to /var/log/auth.log, which are intercepted by /usr/ports/security/sshit to
only temporarily block an offending ip using ipfw. It also sends an email
notification at the time of the attempt, so I can be sure to keep an eye on
the trouble-maker.
BTW: I think to completely block ping/traceroute you would add an ipfw rule
like:
ipfw add drop icmp from any to any in via $eternal_nic
But that may introduce complications I'm unaware of ...
lane
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Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Wasp King wrote: 1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server? Marcus Ranum suggests using wirecutters on the ethernet cable. If the server is internet-reachable, then it can be port-scanned. Considering that many systems these days have 802.11 hardware, I'd also suggest applying wirecutters to the power cable. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stop a freebsd server from responding to pinging?
On Nov 30, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Colin Percival wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Wasp King wrote: 1. How do I stop others from port scanning a server? Marcus Ranum suggests using wirecutters on the ethernet cable. If the server is internet-reachable, then it can be port-scanned. Considering that many systems these days have 802.11 hardware, I'd also suggest applying wirecutters to the power cable. That's a shocking suggestion. (Literally-- one might do well to unplug the machine first, in which case cutting the power cable becomes superfluous. :-) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual homing a freebsd server
Mark Sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to put two nic cards in a server, and have two separate gateways assigned to each nic. I want one to master and the other slave. When the primary network dies I want it to failover to the other card on the fly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Technically, that isn't multi-homing, because you aren't planning to use both links at the same time. You might have gotten more responses if you had referred to failover in your subject line. There are a number of ways to do what you're looking for, but they will break existing connections when the failover occurs. That may or may not be a problem, depending on how long-lived the critical connections are for your server (and whether it can re-establish them on its own when they fail). There are some programs in ports that claim to do this sort of thing (e.g., net/balance), but I haven't used any. In general, the difficult part is detecting the failure -- if that problem is solved, scripting the failover is trivial. Note that the failure will typically not be on your physical link, so you can just watch the local interface. In the worst case, you use some kind of heartbeat protocol with a carefully-chosen router on your primary network, but there may be a better way depending on the precise configuration of that network. Good luck. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dual homing a freebsd server
To whom it may concern, I want to put two nic cards in a server, and have two separate gateways assigned to each nic. I want one to master and the other slave. When the primary network dies I want it to failover to the other card on the fly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A New FreeBSD Server
On 6/26/06, Bob Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] OK; Install successfully completed, want to add APPS? Sure! Why not! So I picked out some editors and shells I use all the time, and PORTS went out to get them. at this point, my DSL connecton went down! Damn! I reset the router, and back up. BUT An IP change occurred and the download from the FTP site never continued! I could do nothing except ABORT the install! So fine! I aborted. Since I had received the Congratulations on an Install message, I ASSUMED all I had to do was re-boot from HD and go to SYSINSTALL and complete the install. NOT! With packages installed from the ftp servers (not from the cdl; as the packages on the cd will generally match the package list at the time of disk fabrication), it's usually simpler to not install binary packages until after the first boot. sysinstall can be run at any time after the install and work fine (though not for disk slicing/labeling on the boot drive). It will not only 'solve' strange problems with regards to sysinstall's package error handling, but it will also let you multitask while the Really Big Meta-Packages (gnome, kde) download, which can take hours on some connections/servers. For reference, pkg_add -r portname (ex. pkg_add -r gnome) seems to be the canonical way to install binary packages from the web. sysinstall's a not-to-pretty hack of a binary that filled a need and was user friendly and stable enough, not really flexible beyond installing things off a dos partition or cd. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: N00b: shutting down freebsd server
Hello Seniors, I think it supports ACPI. When I press the power button it sends signal 15, then it stops the processes. Then it shuts down the system. Regards --- Frank Steinborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dharam paul wrote: Hello Seniors, Is it ok to shutdown a freebsd server from atx power button? regards If your server supports ACPI and it's shutting down clean, it's OK. But if your power-button switches your system off immediatly, use shutdown -p now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: N00b: shutting down freebsd server
dharam paul wrote: Hello Seniors, I think it supports ACPI. When I press the power button it sends signal 15, then it stops the processes. Then it shuts down the system. It's absolutely okay to use the power button to shutdown the system then. Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: N00b: shutting down freebsd server
On 07 May 2006, at 10:44 AM, dharam paul wrote: Hello Seniors, I think it supports ACPI. When I press the power button it sends signal 15, then it stops the processes. Then it shuts down the system. Perfect, it's shutting down cleanly then. yeah, it's fine to hit the atx button to halt it then... but don't hold it down, or it'll die uncleanly. Regards --- Frank Steinborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dharam paul wrote: Hello Seniors, Is it ok to shutdown a freebsd server from atx power button? regards If your server supports ACPI and it's shutting down clean, it's OK. But if your power-button switches your system off immediatly, use shutdown -p now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
N00b: shutting down freebsd server
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Re: N00b: shutting down freebsd server
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Re: Problem connecting a freebsd server using ssh
You've put your FreeBSD_B in data center? Perhaps the network architecture causes the difficulty of ssh. Are these machines in the same subnet? Any special configure in the network switchs and routers? 2006/2/24, Lei Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, both of them are releng_6-p4, and I had no problem connecting in both directions before Freebsd_B is put into the data center. Any more help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated. Thanks -- Ma Jie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem connecting a freebsd server using ssh
Hi Guys, I did tons of search on what problems might be, but it doesn't seems to be the cases that I have searched even though it looks similar. 1. ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B: I got Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer error. 2. ssh from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B: logs me in fine 3. try to ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B again, got the same error message, and now I can't log in from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B any more, unless I reboot the windows xp machine. WIERD!!! I check the tcp wrapper thing, the hosts.allow is All : All : allow. So that's not the case. I made sure all of the KeepAlive entries are set to yes, but still no luck. Please help... Thanks in advance! Below is the log messages... sshd log messeges from Freebsd_B - Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[453]: debug1: fd 5 clearing O_NONBLOCK Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[453]: debug1: Forked child 649. Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[649]: debug1: rexec start in 5 out 5 newsock 5 pipe 7 sock 8 Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[649]: debug1: inetd sockets after dupping: 3, 3 Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[649]: debug1: res_init() Feb 23 16:12:01 don sshd[649]: Connection from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 1199 Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 pat OpenSSH* Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: do_cleanup Feb 23 16:12:02 don sshd[649]: debug1: PAM: cleanup ssh -v log from Freebsd_A --- $ ssh -v don OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903, OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to xxx [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/x/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/x/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/x/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 FreeBSD-20050903 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'don' is known and matches the DSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/x/.ssh/known_hosts:2 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem connecting a freebsd server using ssh
A and B are the same version of FreeBSD? Perhaps you can try to remove all the files under ~/.ssh on server B. 2006/2/23, Lei Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Guys, I did tons of search on what problems might be, but it doesn't seems to be the cases that I have searched even though it looks similar. 1. ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B: I got Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer error. 2. ssh from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B: logs me in fine 3. try to ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B again, got the same error message, and now I can't log in from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B any more, unless I reboot the windows xp machine. WIERD!!! I check the tcp wrapper thing, the hosts.allow is All : All : allow. So that's not the case. I made sure all of the KeepAlive entries are set to yes, but still no luck. Please help... Thanks in advance! -- Ma Jie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem connecting a freebsd server using ssh
At 03:50 AM 2/23/2006, Lei Sun wrote: 1. ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B: I got Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer error. 2. ssh from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B: logs me in fine 3. try to ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B again, got the same error I didn't did through your logs extensively. But when I've run into similar problems recently, it's usually because one of the clients is using an older ( v2) of the protocol. At some point back in fBSD 5.x support for the less-secure v1 ssh protocol became disabled by default. Try editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and look for a Protocol option. Try setting it to Protocol 1,2 However, the level one supposedly has some security holes, and you might not want to use it over the public Internet. I just use it with my stupid windoze client that only does level one, to connect over our own LAN, so I don't care. -Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem connecting a freebsd server using ssh
Actually, both of them are releng_6-p4, and I had no problem connecting in both directions before Freebsd_B is put into the data center. Any more help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated. Thanks Lei On 2/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:50 AM 2/23/2006, Lei Sun wrote: 1. ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B: I got Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer error. 2. ssh from windows xp (putty) to Freebsd_B: logs me in fine 3. try to ssh from Freebsd_A to Freebsd_B again, got the same error I didn't did through your logs extensively. But when I've run into similar problems recently, it's usually because one of the clients is using an older ( v2) of the protocol. At some point back in fBSD 5.x support for the less-secure v1 ssh protocol became disabled by default. Try editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and look for a Protocol option. Try setting it to Protocol 1,2 However, the level one supposedly has some security holes, and you might not want to use it over the public Internet. I just use it with my stupid windoze client that only does level one, to connect over our own LAN, so I don't care. -Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNMP in FreeBSD server
Hi, I'm running a FreeBSD server on a DSL and I wan't to monitor the link utilization of it using MRTG and NET-SNMP. I installed net-snmp using ports but when I tried running snmpd and querying simple snmpwalk and cfgmaker, I got an error as shown below. I also tried installing net-snmp from source from sourceforge but still snmp is not responding. Please help me on this. Thanks in advance. -Edwin NOTE: - My snmpd.conf is in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf I am running snmpd as plain 'snmpd'. I also tried 'snmpd -c snmpd.conf' but no effect. - ERROR IN CFGMAKER: --base: Get Device Info on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SNMP Error: no response received SNMPv1_Session (remote host: 192.168.1.1 http://192.168.1.1 [192.168.1.1http://192.168.1.1 ].161) community: public request ID: -1724402833 PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes timeout: 2s retries: 5 backoff: 1) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/SNMP_util.pm line 627 SNMPWALK Problem for 1.3.6.1.2.1.1 on [EMAIL PROTECTED]::v4only at /usr/local/bin/cfgmaker line 858 WARNING: Skipping [EMAIL PROTECTED]: as no info could be retrieved # Created by # /usr/local/bin/cfgmaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Edwin D. Viñas http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNMP in FreeBSD server
Edwin D. Vinas wrote: Hi, I'm running a FreeBSD server on a DSL and I wan't to monitor the link utilization of it using MRTG and NET-SNMP. I installed net-snmp using ports but when I tried running snmpd and querying simple snmpwalk and cfgmaker, I got an error as shown below. I also tried installing net-snmp from source from sourceforge but still snmp is not responding. Please help me on this. Thanks in advance. -Edwin NOTE: - My snmpd.conf is in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf I am running snmpd as plain 'snmpd'. I also tried 'snmpd -c snmpd.conf' but no effect. - ERROR IN CFGMAKER: --base: Get Device Info on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SNMP Error: no response received SNMPv1_Session (remote host: 192.168.1.1 http://192.168.1.1 [192.168.1.1http://192.168.1.1 ].161) community: public request ID: -1724402833 PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes timeout: 2s retries: 5 backoff: 1) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/SNMP_util.pm line 627 SNMPWALK Problem for 1.3.6.1.2.1.1 on [EMAIL PROTECTED]::v4only at /usr/local/bin/cfgmaker line 858 WARNING: Skipping [EMAIL PROTECTED]: as no info could be retrieved # Created by # /usr/local/bin/cfgmaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Edwin D. Viñas http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm running mrtg myself, and I remember having some problem with snmpd when I installed it. you should have a config file in /usr/local/etc/ named snmpd.conf and it should look something like this: http://fstaals.net/junk/snmpd.conf . I can't remember anymore if I had to change anything else, but I think that should be it. Good Luck -- -Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sending files to Win/Linux client from FreeBSD server?
Hi everyone :) I'd just like to ask if there's a specific command I can use to send files from my FreeBSD 4.3 server to my Windows XP/ Red Hat Linux clients. I'm totally stuck to mounting and unmounting a floppy disk and transferring the files by copying and pasting from PC to PC. There's got to be an easier way, but I can't seem to find anything on Google. Please help me. Thanks in advance, Jamie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending files to Win/Linux client from FreeBSD server?
Jamie Ann P. Zamodio wrote: to PC. There's got to be an easier way, scp is always an easy way... :-) (If you've got it, ofcourse) Nick. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending files to Win/Linux client from FreeBSD server?
At 01:57 AM 8/25/2005, Jamie Ann P. Zamodio wrote: Hi everyone :) I'd just like to ask if there's a specific command I can use to send files from my FreeBSD 4.3 server to my Windows XP/ Red Hat Linux clients. I'm totally stuck to mounting and unmounting a floppy disk and transferring the files by copying and pasting from PC to PC. There's got to be an easier way, but I can't seem to find anything on Google. Please help me. There are tons of different ways you can do that. ftp, nfs, scp, rsync, samba, just to name a few. -Glenn Thanks in advance, Jamie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending files to Win/Linux client from FreeBSD server?
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 01:57 -0700, Jamie Ann P. Zamodio wrote: Hi everyone :) I'd just like to ask if there's a specific command I can use to send files from my FreeBSD 4.3 server to my Windows XP/ Red Hat Linux clients. I'm totally stuck to mounting and unmounting a floppy disk and transferring the files by copying and pasting from PC to PC. There's got to be an easier way, but I can't seem to find anything on Google. Please help me. Thanks in advance, Jamie You could set FTP-Server (I prefer vsftpd) or Samba. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
multiple LCD monitors connection to a FreeBSD server
Hi, I want to connection more than 10 LCD monitors to a single FreeBSD server. Is there a way to do so? Thanks Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multiple LCD monitors connection to a FreeBSD server
On 8/19/05, Bsderss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to connection more than 10 LCD monitors to a single FreeBSD server. Is there a way to do so? Thanks Sam Hi A possible starting point would be http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/Xinerama-HOWTO/ and http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue82/ward.html You would need to do a prototype with . some hardware (atleast 9 display cards, etc), . xinerama extensions . and xorg.conf file Hope this helps. -- thanks Dev. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multiple LCD monitors connection to a FreeBSD server
On 8/19/05, Bsderss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to connection more than 10 LCD monitors to a single FreeBSD server. Is there a way to do so? Thanks Sam Shall they display the same information? -- Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help required for pxe-booting linux from a freebsd server
Hi, I have a freebsd 5.4 server with tftpd, nfsd and dhcpd support. I want to initiate pxe installation of CentOS Linux on some of the machines on my network from my freebsd box. I have the CentOS's pxe-kernel and pxe-initrd files. I have also compiled freebsd's pxeboot file from the sources and placed it in /usr/tftpboot/. Can someone please guide me through the steps I need to take to get CentOS to boot via pxe from my box and install from an NFS-exported directory containing the whole CentOS distribution ? Thanks for any help. Manish Jain Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running FreeBSD server behind a firewall with nat
Hi, I'm really new to FreeBSD and UNIX, and I have to configure it to host a webserver. After a week I've managed to install Apache/mySQL/PhP and get everything running as I want it on my local network. Now I need to put it on the Internet, so that the developers can take control over it (ssh, ftp). The problem is that at the moment when I activate one-to-one nat on my hardware firewall for this machine, the services stop working and behave strangely (for example, if I connect to the box using ssh, it prompts for the login and nothing else happens, ftp doesn't work either). If I try to reboot, sendmail doesn't start at all (it just hangs, so I have to hit ^C to stop the script). I haven't found any information about configuring this correctly on the Internet, so I hope I can find an answer here. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running FreeBSD server behind a firewall with nat
On 7/5/05, Roman Kouzmenko wrote: ... Now I need to put it on the Internet, so that the developers can take control over it (ssh, ftp). The problem is that at the moment when I activate one-to-one nat on my hardware firewall for this machine, the services stop working and behave strangely (for example, if I connect to the box using ssh, it prompts for the login and nothing else happens, ftp doesn't work either). If I try to reboot, sendmail doesn't start at all (it just hangs, so I have to hit ^C to stop the script). ... sendmail probably does not hang but just tries to resolve a name via DNS that apparently is not working. It should continue in a few minutes if you wait that long. What hardware firewall are you using? Is it possible to attach your server to the Internet directly, without using a firewall in the middle? -- Dmitry We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Am Sonntag, 3. April 2005 17:36 schrieb Rob: There is a FAQ, that explains: If you want all outgoing SMTP connections to use port 2525, you can use this in your .mc file: define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') I have put this in my hostname.mc file, but to no avail. I'm probably not familiar enough with sendmail way of doing things. But then this is such a simple thing, that it should be easy. I suppose that with netstat -a, there should be a line with port 2525, if above works. But that is not there. I'm not sure if I understand your problem correctly, but what you did with these defines is that sendmail contacts every other system at port 2525 instead of 25, it's not listening on 2525, hence you can't see a tcp/2525 with netstat -a. But I think it should do what you want, if I understand your description right. If you want sendmail to listen at a custom port these defines are wrong. I don't have them in my mind right now, I'm sure you'll find the M4 defines at the sendmail FAQ, tell me if I can help. Uh? So are the rules above right or not? I'm still confused. The header of that particular FAQ was: How do I send using an alternate port? and that's what I want, unless my English is badly deteriorating, which I often feel like when reading sendmail manual pages :(. Anyway, let's go back to what I want sendmail to do, which is possibly a little more complicated than just shifting to another outgoing port: 1) for local delivery, i.e. users on the PC, deliver to the local mailboxes (does that need port 25?). 2) for outgoing delivery, do that over an ssh-tunnel port, e.g. over port 2525: ssh -N -f -L 2525:localhost:25 smtp.my.isp I can create the ssh-tunnel easily: telnet localhost 2525 connects me to the remote smtp server. As you may have noticed, I am a very newbie to sendmail configuration. Thanks for your help! Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Emanuel Strobl wrote:\ If you don't have /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc then you should cd to /etc/mail and type make, after you edited the file make all install restart Thanks for your help. I generated the files with this make command, and all just worked out of the box. I can send email, without needing to tell sendmail about my hostname. So far so good. However, next what I need, is using another port for sending emails out. I have googled and read the sendmail FAQs, but I am completely at a loss here. There is a FAQ, that explains: If you want all outgoing SMTP connections to use port 2525, you can use this in your .mc file: define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') I have put this in my hostname.mc file, but to no avail. I'm probably not familiar enough with sendmail way of doing things. But then this is such a simple thing, that it should be easy. I suppose that with netstat -a, there should be a line with port 2525, if above works. But that is not there. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this? Thanks, Rob. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Am Sonntag, 3. April 2005 17:36 schrieb Rob: Emanuel Strobl wrote:\ If you don't have /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc then you should cd to /etc/mail and type make, after you edited the file make all install restart Thanks for your help. I generated the files with this make command, and all just worked out of the box. I can send email, without needing to tell sendmail about my hostname. So far so good. However, next what I need, is using another port for sending emails out. I have googled and read the sendmail FAQs, but I am completely at a loss here. There is a FAQ, that explains: If you want all outgoing SMTP connections to use port 2525, you can use this in your .mc file: define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 2525') I have put this in my hostname.mc file, but to no avail. I'm probably not familiar enough with sendmail way of doing things. But then this is such a simple thing, that it should be easy. I suppose that with netstat -a, there should be a line with port 2525, if above works. But that is not there. I'm not sure if I understand your problem correctly, but what you did with these defines is that sendmail contacts every other system at port 2525 insetad of 25, it's not listening on 2525, hence you can't see a tcp/2525 with netstat -a. But I think it should do what you want, if I understand your description right. If you want sendmail to listen at a custom port these defines are wrong. I don't have them in my mind right now, I'm sure you'll find the M4 defines at the sendmail FAQ, tell me if I can help. -Harry Do you have any suggestions how to solve this? Thanks, Rob. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com pgpHRUoD537Aw.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Hi, My ISP provides me with a fixed IP address and a registered hostname. I use a Sitecom DC-207 that serves as a plain router, NAT and 4-port switch, to connect three Windows PCs and one FreeBSD PC simultaneously to the internet. The router gets the fixed IP address, whereas my FreeBSD system gets IP 192.168.123.1 with a fake hostname. The router is configured to redirect the usual TCP/IP server ports to the FreeBSD PC (e.g. ports 22, 25, 80 etc.), which makes the FreeBSD PC a kind of virtual server for my fixed IP address. One of the problems I encounter is this: Sendmail on the FreeBSD PC cannot deliver email, because there seems to be a DNS issue, because the FreeBSD PC does not have an official IP hostname. How do I configure my FreeBSD PC so, that sendmail thinks the PC has the official IP address/hostname provided by my ISP, which is actually used by the router? Or should I follow a different configuration scheme for achieving these goals? Thanks, Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Am Samstag, 2. April 2005 18:07 schrieb Rob: Hi, My ISP provides me with a fixed IP address and a registered hostname. I use a Sitecom DC-207 that serves as a plain router, NAT and 4-port switch, to connect three Windows PCs and one FreeBSD PC simultaneously to the internet. The router gets the fixed IP address, whereas my FreeBSD system gets IP 192.168.123.1 with a fake hostname. The router is configured to redirect the usual TCP/IP server ports to the FreeBSD PC (e.g. ports 22, 25, 80 etc.), which makes the FreeBSD PC a kind of virtual server for my fixed IP address. One of the problems I encounter is this: Sendmail on the FreeBSD PC cannot deliver email, because there seems to be a DNS issue, because the FreeBSD PC does not have an official IP hostname. You can set the following ine /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `host.name.fq')dnl host.name.fq is what ever your provider registred for your IP. Make sure there's also a correct A record for that hostname, eg. if it is spam.refuse.org then `host spam.refuse.org` must return your IP and `host IP` must return spam.refuse.org. If you don't have /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc then you should cd to /etc/mail and type make, after you edited the file make all install restart You also may want to define masquerading, like: MASQUERADE_AS(`yourdomain.org') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`internal.domain.sth')dnl FEATURE(limited_masquerade)dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') -Harry How do I configure my FreeBSD PC so, that sendmail thinks the PC has the official IP address/hostname provided by my ISP, which is actually used by the router? Or should I follow a different configuration scheme for achieving these goals? Thanks, Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4rvJ465864.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
I think i'll start checking on the hardware and the memomry last since memtest shows no errors with the memory. Joseph On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Different thing triggering the reboots, and generally a signal 11? This is almost always some sort of hardware trouble, most often bad memory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
Joseph, On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 you wrote: I think i'll start checking on the hardware and the memomry last since memtest shows no errors with the memory. Don't discount memory problems. Search the archives of this list for previous discussions about memory test programs. You will find that whereas a failed memory test implies bad memory, a successful memory test does not mean that the memory is good. Memory test programs are of limited utility. ...Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
I have a freebsd server in data center that keeps rebooting every 7 hours or so with the following messages from /var/run/dmesg.boot pid 2962 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2955 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2997 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3038 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2879 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3209 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3330 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 2872 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3417 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xff8f fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc035dc58 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e7c frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e84 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 3655 (httpd) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault The output from uname -a is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a FreeBSD web.trueafrican.com 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #1: Sat Jan 22 13:13:09 GMT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/WEB-TA i386 The basic machine details are: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz (1992.63-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,S SE2,SS,HTT,TM real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1039589376 (1015224K bytes) I dont think it is a hard disk issue since the hard disks were replaced recently. Probably cpu fan malfunction? Anyone seen anything like this? Thanks. Joseph. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
I saw something with one of the servers I admin where ftpd crashed when two people were on at the same time for the same amount of minutes (8 minutes). From what it looks like, I'd say there's something going on with apache (if thats what you run), perhaps reinstall it? Just a thought. Cheers! On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:30:52 +0300 (EAT), Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a freebsd server in data center that keeps rebooting every 7 hours or so with the following messages from /var/run/dmesg.boot pid 2962 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2955 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2997 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3038 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2879 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3209 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3330 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 2872 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3417 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xff8f fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc035dc58 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e7c frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e84 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 3655 (httpd) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault The output from uname -a is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a FreeBSD web.trueafrican.com 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #1: Sat Jan 22 13:13:09 GMT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/WEB-TA i386 The basic machine details are: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz (1992.63-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,S SE2,SS,HTT,TM real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1039589376 (1015224K bytes) I dont think it is a hard disk issue since the hard disks were replaced recently. Probably cpu fan malfunction? Anyone seen anything like this? Thanks. Joseph. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
I thought so the first time - I was running apache+ssl. I deinstalled it and reinstalled apache+modssl. Same thing happens. The first time this happened was when I was buidling world. Then the current process was cc1. The second time, i was running locate.updatedb and it rebooted and showed that the current process was find. Joseph. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, gabriel wrote: I saw something with one of the servers I admin where ftpd crashed when two people were on at the same time for the same amount of minutes (8 minutes). From what it looks like, I'd say there's something going on with apache (if thats what you run), perhaps reinstall it? Just a thought. Cheers! On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:30:52 +0300 (EAT), Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a freebsd server in data center that keeps rebooting every 7 hours or so with the following messages from /var/run/dmesg.boot pid 2962 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2955 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2997 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3038 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 2879 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3209 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3330 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 2872 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 pid 3417 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xff8f fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc035dc58 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e7c frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4c53e84 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 3655 (httpd) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault The output from uname -a is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a FreeBSD web.trueafrican.com 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #1: Sat Jan 22 13:13:09 GMT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/WEB-TA i386 The basic machine details are: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz (1992.63-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,S SE2,SS,HTT,TM real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1039589376 (1015224K bytes) I dont think it is a hard disk issue since the hard disks were replaced recently. Probably cpu fan malfunction? Anyone seen anything like this? Thanks. Joseph. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought so the first time - I was running apache+ssl. I deinstalled it and reinstalled apache+modssl. Same thing happens. The first time this happened was when I was buidling world. Then the current process was cc1. The second time, i was running locate.updatedb and it rebooted and showed that the current process was find. Different thing triggering the reboots, and generally a signal 11? This is almost always some sort of hardware trouble, most often bad memory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Server Panics Reboots
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different thing triggering the reboots, and generally a signal 11? This is almost always some sort of hardware trouble, most often bad memory. Extremely likely, yes. I've had that a few times, mostly with el cheapo PCs; with one it did interestingly not happen with FreeBSD 1.1.5.2, but with 2.0. Better hardware always solved the problem. -- Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. It is worth to take a look at http://www.fluffy.co.uk/boxbackup/, which is a tool focusing on automated (`lazy') or snapshot backup. Supported are most unices, there is no FreeBSD-port however. A windows' client utility is work in progress, though usable via cygwin now. Its main advantages: * backups via encrypted streams, public key infrastucture * only modified parts are to be transported * preserving the overwritten or deleted files * quota-support * userland RAID-option Have a nice day --tef ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:54:47 +0100, Sitkei Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. It is worth to take a look at http://www.fluffy.co.uk/boxbackup/, which is a tool focusing on automated (`lazy') or snapshot backup. Supported are most unices, there is no FreeBSD-port however. A windows' client utility is work in progress, though usable via cygwin now. Its main advantages: * backups via encrypted streams, public key infrastucture * only modified parts are to be transported * preserving the overwritten or deleted files * quota-support * userland RAID-option I had never heard of boxbackup before, so thank you for the link! This tool appears to be the closest to what I am looking for. Hopefully the development continues. Cheers, ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
Am 03.01.2005 um 17:11 schrieb Danny: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:54:47 +0100, Sitkei Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had never heard of boxbackup before, so thank you for the link! This tool appears to be the closest to what I am looking for. Hopefully the development continues. I just looked at it, too, and it reminds me a bit of DIBS (http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~emin/source_code/dibs/index.html), a distributed backup system that can send your data to several computers across the network. While I have no experience with it myself, what is on the website looks quite interesting and you might want to check that out, too. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew P. Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:33 PM To: Danny Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely I don't want to sound like an ad, but I've heard some experienced backup officers say that if you're gonna backup proprietary platforms (i.e. Windows) you'd best use proprietary backup software. I would agree with this if the goal is to be able to restore a busted server. If the goal of the backup is merely to archive DATA, then this isn't true. Of course, it's important to understand that archiving data and backing up the server are two different things. With a server backup the goal is to create a restore set that allows you to come back from a flat server with a minimum amount of effort and time. With a data archive there is no goal to create a restore set - instead you want to get the data centralized and put to a medium that you have a ghost of a chance of being able to read in 10 years. (and that ain't Arcserve, my friends) And there's actually a *third* possible goal, which is quick recovery of accidentally deleted (or overwritten, etc.) user data. UFS2 filesystem snapshots are a remarkably easy way to provide this. And then there's RAID, which doesn't solve any of these problems, but can help you get back up fast after losing a disk. Each of these goals has a different best solution, and in some cases the solution even depends on the details of the environment. Figure out exactly what you need before deciding how to fill that need. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:16:43 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If the goal of the backup is merely to archive DATA, then this isn't true. OK, I am not going to focus on archiving; the goal is to backup and restore. Thank you for all of your suggestions. I am currently investigating them all. ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On 30 Dec 2004 09:52:30 -0500, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there's actually a *third* possible goal, which is quick recovery of accidentally deleted (or overwritten, etc.) user data. UFS2 filesystem snapshots are a remarkably easy way to provide this. This would be nice, but I am not going to get that granular at this point. Thank you for the reminder, though. And then there's RAID, which doesn't solve any of these problems, but can help you get back up fast after losing a disk. Hardware RAID, yes, for hardware failure. Got that covered. Each of these goals has a different best solution, and in some cases the solution even depends on the details of the environment. Figure out exactly what you need before deciding how to fill that need. From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. From a restore point of view, my goal... To be able to download the compressed backup(s) from the remote server and restore the previous days data. Hopefully this explains my situation. Thank you, ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
--- Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Dec 2004 09:52:30 -0500, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there's actually a *third* possible goal, which is quick recovery of accidentally deleted (or overwritten, etc.) user data. UFS2 filesystem snapshots are a remarkably easy way to provide this. This would be nice, but I am not going to get that granular at this point. Thank you for the reminder, though. And then there's RAID, which doesn't solve any of these problems, but can help you get back up fast after losing a disk. Hardware RAID, yes, for hardware failure. Got that covered. Each of these goals has a different best solution, and in some cases the solution even depends on the details of the environment. Figure out exactly what you need before deciding how to fill that need. From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. From a restore point of view, my goal... To be able to download the compressed backup(s) from the remote server and restore the previous days data. Hopefully this explains my situation. Thank you, ...D ___ I haven't caught all of this thread but I'll share what I do. I use rsync to sync file to a server for backup. 6 FreeBSD and one Win2K which have been set up to rsync at different times in the morning hours. On the Win2k machine, I have cygwin running that I use to rsync the data over every night. I think there is rsync for windows but I liked the command line capabilities that cygwin gives me. All use ssh in the rsync. So after the night rsync's, I'll have a copy of files on the backup server's harddrive and will also have a copy on tape. Tape runs in morning after all servers have sync'd. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:31:34 -0800 (PST), Dave McCammon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't caught all of this thread but I'll share what I do. I use rsync to sync file to a server for backup. 6 FreeBSD and one Win2K which have been set up to rsync at different times in the morning hours. Any of this communcation/transfer encrypted or compressed? What type of backup would you compare your solution to -- incremental, differential, full, etc.? How many GB's you transfer? On the Win2k machine, I have cygwin running that I use to rsync the data over every night. I think there is rsync for windows but I liked the command line capabilities that cygwin gives me. All use ssh in the rsync. [...] How do you restore files? ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 11:55:18AM -0500, Danny wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:31:34 -0800 (PST), Dave McCammon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't caught all of this thread but I'll share what I do. I use rsync to sync file to a server for backup. 6 FreeBSD and one Win2K which have been set up to rsync at different times in the morning hours. Any of this communcation/transfer encrypted or compressed? What type of backup would you compare your solution to -- incremental, differential, full, etc.? How many GB's you transfer? On the Win2k machine, I have cygwin running that I use to rsync the data over every night. I think there is rsync for windows but I liked the command line capabilities that cygwin gives me. All use ssh in the rsync. [...] How do you restore files? ...D ___ Thats the rub with windows, or I think so, you can back it up but getting it to reload is the big if. I've restored a few programs from a backup, they run but they appear as bastar* exe, not in the reg. but will run without errors. If you load fresh you lose updated stuff, database index is not right for the updated program. Sorry just a personal rant. No such thing as a perfect backup yet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
Dave McCammon wrote: --- Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I haven't caught all of this thread but I'll share what I do. I use rsync to sync file to a server for backup. 6 FreeBSD and one Win2K which have been set up to rsync at different times in the morning hours. On the Win2k machine, I have cygwin running that I use to rsync the data over every night. I think there is rsync for windows but I liked the command line capabilities that cygwin gives me. All use ssh in the rsync. So after the night rsync's, I'll have a copy of files on the backup server's harddrive and will also have a copy on tape. Tape runs in morning after all servers have sync'd. I have a similar setup: a FreeBSD file and backup server with a dedicated hard drive that holds all of my backed up data. I mount the hdd read-write at midnight each night, and I have scheduled tasks that run at 1am on 5 Windows boxes that rsync (over an SSH tunnel) specific directories that I want to keep backed up to the FreeBSD box. I also have a local rsync job that runs on the FreeBSD box that backs up various locations in that system. For the Windows boxes, I use the cwrsync package, which is really just rsync with cygwin. I sort out the directory structure on the backup drive something like this: /[boxname]/[weekly.[0-2]|daily.[0-6]]/[backup_dirs] As you can tell from the directory structure, I run 7 days of incremental backups, and I also keep 3 weeks of full backups. I have scripts that run at 12:15am to rotate the various directories around so that the incremental backups can work. I compress the weekly backups via gzip to conserve hard disk space - I use the entirety of the 300gig drive. At 6:30am, I remount the hdd as a read-only drive. I push around about 20 gigs per night when everything is all said and done, but because this all happens over a local 100mbps network, it isn't that bad. I don't currently have any provision for providing easy, automated restore functionalities to the backups, and this is only onto a single hdd and not on tape or a raid array or anything, but it is good enough for my backup system at home. :-) -- Alan Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
--- Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:31:34 -0800 (PST), Dave McCammon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't caught all of this thread but I'll share what I do. I use rsync to sync file to a server for backup. 6 FreeBSD and one Win2K which have been set up to rsync at different times in the morning hours. Any of this communcation/transfer encrypted or compressed? What type of backup would you compare your solution to -- incremental, differential, full, etc.? rsync in FreeBSD use ssh as default transport. rsync in cygwin is made to use ssh with command line option. Type of backup---read the man page for rsync-- It basically sync's a copy of whatever you tell it to to someplace that you tell it to. Whole file systems or just one file. Then the next time rsync runs, it copies the files that have changed since the last rsync. This is my explanation...please read the man page for more. Rsync is located in the ports. How many GB's you transfer? Total transfered a night..I don't know. It depends on what is on the machine. A few K on one machine, 70-90M per file on another, etc... All machines are on one LAN so no transfers over T1 yet. All-in-All there is 13G that is stored on the backup server from the 7 servers but not all 13G's are transfered every night. On the Win2k machine, I have cygwin running that I use to rsync the data over every night. I think there is rsync for windows but I liked the command line capabilities that cygwin gives me. All use ssh in the rsync. [...] How do you restore files? rsync them back or scp. I use dump on the tape backup so if an archived file(s)is needed it is restored to a different location then copied to the server where it is needed. __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:13:54 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. From a restore point of view, my goal... To be able to download the compressed backup(s) from the remote server and restore the previous days data. Hopefully this explains my situation. You might want to check out the sysutils/duplicity port. This is its description: = Duplicity backs directories by producing encrypted tar-format volumes and uploading them to a remote or local file server. Because duplicity uses librsync, the incremental archives are space efficient and only record the parts of files that have changed since the last backup. Because duplicity uses GnuPG to encrypt and/or sign these archives, they will be safe from spying and/or modification by the server. WWW: http://www.nongnu.org/duplicity/ = I don't know if it works under Windows, but it's written in Python so it might. I used duplicity for a while to back up a system to another that was backed up on which I had an account but had no administrative control. (Hence, encrypted backups were a nice feature.) You might want to look at other ports such as sysutils/dar, archivers/rvm, sysutils/rsnapshot, etc. for ideas. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. --- Frank Vincent Zappa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On 12/30/2004 8:13 AM Danny wrote: On 30 Dec 2004 09:52:30 -0500, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there's actually a *third* possible goal, which is quick recovery of accidentally deleted (or overwritten, etc.) user data. UFS2 filesystem snapshots are a remarkably easy way to provide this. This would be nice, but I am not going to get that granular at this point. Thank you for the reminder, though. And then there's RAID, which doesn't solve any of these problems, but can help you get back up fast after losing a disk. Hardware RAID, yes, for hardware failure. Got that covered. Each of these goals has a different best solution, and in some cases the solution even depends on the details of the environment. Figure out exactly what you need before deciding how to fill that need. From a backup point of view, my goal... On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. From a restore point of view, my goal... To be able to download the compressed backup(s) from the remote server and restore the previous days data. Hopefully this explains my situation. Thank you, ...D Have you looked at the Bacula port? The compression can be handled by Bacula. If you set up tunnels, that should handle the encryption part. Once you get used to the way Bacula works, it's fairly easy to use. You have a central machine that is the director and initiates and coordinates all of the backup jobs. You also have a storage daemon (which can be on the same machine as the director or another machine altogether) which stores all of the files. You can also have multiple storage daemons if you wish. And finally, you run a file daemon on every client you wish to backup. There are clients available for many different OSes. I use it to backup two FBSD boxes and 2 WinXP boxes to file volumes. Take a look and you might find it will meet most of your needs. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Music on Hold via FreeBSD Server
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 03:41:38PM -0500, WMC wrote: Greetings, I have an existing FreeBSD 5.x server I'm trying to use to feed music or announcements on-hold into our phone system (yeah - I know the legalities of using copyrighted stuff.) I installed a sound card, wired it up, and hacked together a simple little script to run the mpg123 package to continuously playback a few mp3 files. Couple questions: * What command-line program would you suggest for playing uncompressed audio files in this scenario? There are hundreds of entries in Ports, and I'd rather not spend a month trying them all. * Has anyone else done something similar to this, and would you care to share a script to keep it running continuously? -Thanks, Wayne ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I run a headless jukebox using musicpd and ncmpc, runs on older equipment, just ssh into it for control and updates, nice random repete mode with fade into next song. really makes a nice setup. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
Good day to you all, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations, related experiences, and tips for the following goal: On a monthly and manual basis - to take a snapshot of data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed a snapshot of all the data may total over ~8GB. On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. Anytime (assuming the remote server IS available, of course) - have the ability to access the data and restore the data files to any systems respective of what type it came from (Windows or BSD, etc). And if a full restore was necessary, the data may total over 10GB. Hardware and network-wise... here is what I was thinking: FreeBSD Windows Servers on the LAN | | LAN - firewalled v FreeBSD server where all the data would be collected and compressed v | | Internet - secure connection or transport of some type (SCP, SSH, VPN, etc.) | | Remote co-lo v FreeBSB server where all the data would be stored with at least RAID 1 Thank you! ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:15:27 -0500 Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good day to you all, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations, related experiences, and tips for the following goal: On a monthly and manual basis - to take a snapshot of data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed a snapshot of all the data may total over ~8GB. On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. Anytime (assuming the remote server IS available, of course) - have the ability to access the data and restore the data files to any systems respective of what type it came from (Windows or BSD, etc). And if a full restore was necessary, the data may total over 10GB. Hardware and network-wise... here is what I was thinking: FreeBSD Windows Servers on the LAN | | LAN - firewalled v FreeBSD server where all the data would be collected and compressed v | | Internet - secure connection or transport of some type (SCP, SSH, VPN, etc.)| | Remote co-lo v FreeBSB server where all the data would be stored with at least RAID 1 I'm no FreeBSD expert, so others may know of a better solution. That said, I use BackupPC from http://backuppc.sf.net in Linux. It's not platform specific though, and can back up anything from *BSD to Linux to Windows to Mac OS X. Sending the resulting tar ball to a remote server would need to be done via a simple script file, but could be tied into the backup process using the DumpPostUserCmd or ArchivePostUserCmd variables. HTH, Jacob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On 12/29/2004 10:15, Danny wrote: On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. I've been using rdiff-backup to mirror two arrays (locally), but its actually more designed for what you want to do. It works well for incremental backups and it does run on Microsoft if you check the FAQ (although I can't say that I've tried it on anything other than FreeBSD). You might want to take a look at it, it may be just what you are looking for: /usr/ports/sysutils/rdiff-backup/ http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:15:27 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good day to you all, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations, related experiences, and tips for the following goal: On a monthly and manual basis - to take a snapshot of data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed a snapshot of all the data may total over ~8GB. On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. Anytime (assuming the remote server IS available, of course) - have the ability to access the data and restore the data files to any systems respective of what type it came from (Windows or BSD, etc). And if a full restore was necessary, the data may total over 10GB. Hardware and network-wise... here is what I was thinking: FreeBSD Windows Servers on the LAN | | LAN - firewalled v FreeBSD server where all the data would be collected and compressed v | | Internet - secure connection or transport of some type (SCP, SSH, VPN, etc.) | | Remote co-lo v FreeBSB server where all the data would be stored with at least RAID 1 here is a helpfull link that address's a similar issue: http://www.freebsddiary.org/bacula.php I have found bacula to be a very nice solution. it is also reasonable trivial to run bacula through a stunell. here is the link to the bacula site: www.bacula.org -pete Thank you! ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
Danny wrote: Good day to you all, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations, related experiences, and tips for the following goal: On a monthly and manual basis - to take a snapshot of data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed a snapshot of all the data may total over ~8GB. On a nightly and automated basis - to take a snapshot of all new and modified data from a FreeBSD server and Windows server. Then compress and hopefully encrypt the data and send it to a remote FreeBSD server through some form of efficient and secure file transfer. Uncompressed the nightly data may total ~20MB. Anytime (assuming the remote server IS available, of course) - have the ability to access the data and restore the data files to any systems respective of what type it came from (Windows or BSD, etc). And if a full restore was necessary, the data may total over 10GB. Hardware and network-wise... here is what I was thinking: FreeBSD Windows Servers on the LAN | | LAN - firewalled v FreeBSD server where all the data would be collected and compressed v | | Internet - secure connection or transport of some type (SCP, SSH, VPN, etc.) | | Remote co-lo v FreeBSB server where all the data would be stored with at least RAID 1 I don't want to sound like an ad, but I've heard some experienced backup officers say that if you're gonna backup proprietary platforms (i.e. Windows) you'd best use proprietary backup software. And it'll pay for itself. Look at ARCserve, then google further. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew P. Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:33 PM To: Danny Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD server(s) to backup multi-platform systems remotely I don't want to sound like an ad, but I've heard some experienced backup officers say that if you're gonna backup proprietary platforms (i.e. Windows) you'd best use proprietary backup software. I would agree with this if the goal is to be able to restore a busted server. If the goal of the backup is merely to archive DATA, then this isn't true. Of course, it's important to understand that archiving data and backing up the server are two different things. With a server backup the goal is to create a restore set that allows you to come back from a flat server with a minimum amount of effort and time. With a data archive there is no goal to create a restore set - instead you want to get the data centralized and put to a medium that you have a ghost of a chance of being able to read in 10 years. (and that ain't Arcserve, my friends) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replicate FreeBSD server
Hello, I know this has been asked before but I can't find the answer I'm looking for. Anyway, we have a FreeBSD 4.7 email (qmail, courier imap) and web (php, Mysql) server. I want to have a failover server offsite so if the master goes down the backup will kick in. The backup server needs to have an up-to-date(real-time) copy of the email(courier-imap), Mysql, and web information. Will rsync do all this as far the the replication goes? I hope there is open source software for this if not. I know about clustering products and so forth but I'd like to do this as cheap as possible. Thanks. -- Jason ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a network file system with Windows client and freeBSD server
--- Artem Koutchine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I need sime kind of network file system which has a FreeBSD server and Windows clients (particulary Windows XP) and that FreeBSD file share must be mounted on Windows XP under a drive letter. Windows client is FAR FAR away and is behind nat. Traffic costs a lot, so that file system must not waste it for nothing. Of course, security is very important and security based on IP address is impossible, because client is behind nat. I have checked the following: 1) Samba3 I think i could use it with user security (not share or maybe mixed) but i am not sure about making it open to internet and also i think it wastes bandwidth. Am i wrong? 2) Coda FS Nice thing, but i could not figure out how to manage user passwords and there is no working windows xp client. I tried it - not luck for me. 3) AFS No idea is AFS Windows client exists and no FreeBSD server. 4) NFS Well, i like it very much because we use for freebsd file shareing since year 2000. Hoever, i could not find free NFS client for Windows (but, hell, i'll buy it) but what's worse i get figure out how to make authorizartion based on user/password and not on /etc/exports. I need something more secure. Also, am not sure about bandwidth usage. Any help will be very appriciated. Regards, Artem Kuchin General Director of IT Legion Ltd. Russia, Moscow www.itlegion.ru [EMAIL PROTECTED] +7 095 232-0338 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I would like to offer an appology for the off topic response: Just a side note about a free NFS client for Windows: Microsoft's Windows Services for UNIX Now Available Free of Charge http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5675 Microsoft SFU is made by Interix.com, which in turn is based on OpenBSD. If I am not mistaken, they do have an NFS client. http://www.asia.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/interop/sfu/nfsauth.mspx Client for NFS The Windows NFS client component of SFUv3. Client for NFS allows the machine on which it is installed to access and use NFS resources anywhere on the network Pete __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need a network file system with Windows client and freeBSD server
Hi! I need sime kind of network file system which has a FreeBSD server and Windows clients (particulary Windows XP) and that FreeBSD file share must be mounted on Windows XP under a drive letter. Windows client is FAR FAR away and is behind nat. Traffic costs a lot, so that file system must not waste it for nothing. Of course, security is very important and security based on IP address is impossible, because client is behind nat. I have checked the following: 1) Samba3 I think i could use it with user security (not share or maybe mixed) but i am not sure about making it open to internet and also i think it wastes bandwidth. Am i wrong? 2) Coda FS Nice thing, but i could not figure out how to manage user passwords and there is no working windows xp client. I tried it - not luck for me. 3) AFS No idea is AFS Windows client exists and no FreeBSD server. 4) NFS Well, i like it very much because we use for freebsd file shareing since year 2000. Hoever, i could not find free NFS client for Windows (but, hell, i'll buy it) but what's worse i get figure out how to make authorizartion based on user/password and not on /etc/exports. I need something more secure. Also, am not sure about bandwidth usage. Any help will be very appriciated. Regards, Artem Kuchin General Director of IT Legion Ltd. Russia, Moscow www.itlegion.ru [EMAIL PROTECTED] +7 095 232-0338 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a network file system with Windows client and freeBSD server
Artem Koutchine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I need sime kind of network file system which has a FreeBSD server and Windows clients (particulary Windows XP) and that FreeBSD file share must be mounted on Windows XP under a drive letter. Windows client is FAR FAR away and is behind nat. Traffic costs a lot, so that file system must not waste it for nothing. Of course, security is very important and security based on IP address is impossible, because client is behind nat. I have checked the following: 1) Samba3 I think i could use it with user security (not share or maybe mixed) but i am not sure about making it open to internet and also i think it wastes bandwidth. Am i wrong? Don't use Samba. It's insecure over the Internet, and it's a bandwidth hog. Very nice for 100mb/sec local filesystems, though. 4) NFS Well, i like it very much because we use for freebsd file shareing since year 2000. Hoever, i could not find free NFS client for Windows (but, hell, i'll buy it) but what's worse i get figure out how to make authorizartion based on user/password and not on /etc/exports. I need something more secure. Also, am not sure about bandwidth usage. It's slightly better than SMB, but still has both problems. If you run it over the Internet, you need to do some sort of encrypted tunnel on top. I highly recommend setting up sshd on FreeBSD and using WinSCP to move files around. Secure, designed for slow links (thus bandwidth efficient) and WinSCP is almost as easy to use as Windows explorer. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
