make installworld fails at kerberos5
Hello, I'm just learning FreeBSD (Release 4.9). I installed in January and everything seemed fine. On February 12, I did a CVSup. buildworld, make and installkernel produced no errors, but installworld fails, and I can't figure out why. From my script output file: === kerberos5/lib/libvers === kerberos5/lib/libasn1 install -C -C -o root -9 wheel -m 444 libans1.a /usr/lib install -C -C -o root -9 wheel -m 444 libans1_p.a /usr/lib install -C -s -o root -9 whell -m 444 libans1.so.5 /usr/lib ln -fs libans1.so.5 /usr/lib/libasn1.so yacc -d /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/parse.y cp y.tab.c parse.c cp:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1 *** Error code 1 The part I don't understand is that if I look in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1, I see the y.tab.c created by installworld. I would appreciate any help. I've been stuck for 10 days now. Thanks, Steve __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: smtp pull
it was said: Hi, Looking for some thoughts on the following scenario. firewall smtp2 | | smtp1 smtp1 is on the DMZ. So smtp1 is the first point of call for incoming mail. Mail ultimately has to end up on smtp2 however I do not want smtp1 to simply forward the mail to smtp2 as I'll have to explicitly allow the setup of port 25 through the firewall to smtp2. I would like smtp2 to connect to smtp1 and pull back the mail so that it's smtp2 that initiating an outgoing connection to smtp1. Is there any smtp type approach I can use? snip etrn? stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blacklisting IPs
it was said: These types of attacks don't seem directed -- it's more like fishing for unprotected systems. FWIW, changing the ssh port dropped the illegal user attempts to 0 instantly... - ben On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:29:10 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm going to attack you I'm going to use nessus to scan all ports on your machine. Hello, Too many break-in attempts come from cracked Windows boxes running script bots to make reporting these attempts practical, so I changed my ssh port to a non-standard one. Now, if I see a break-in attempt, I block the /21 the attacking IP falls into and report it to the relevant ISP/network admin because I know a black hat has taken a personal interest in my network. Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
it was said: Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a good explanation or does one have to investigate this further? Hello, First, I do not speak for anyone but myself. Therefore, any information this post contains is based solely on my understanding of that information and is only as accurate as that understanding is correct. To sum up your problem, you tested FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD 4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD and found that FreeBSD 4.11RC2 had the best ping responses from that group. What you want to know is why FBSD 5.3 doesn't respond as well as 4.11RC2. Is this correct? Assuming that it is, the answer is that 5.3 is the first stable release of the 5.x branch. One of the 5.x branch's main purposes is to make FBSD much more scalable in terms SMP support. Doing this requires removing the Giant lock. It had been hoped that the removal process would be finished in time for 5.3. Unfortunately, as often happens in a volunteer project delays occurred for various reasons, that was not the case. The incomplete removal meant that not all subsystems could be optimized properly. One of those subsystems is networking. This is not as bad as it sounds because while 5.3's network performance is not as good as 4.11RC2, it is no worse that of NBSD 2.0 or any Linux distro. Also, the optimization has already begun on networking and 5.4 should be _at least_ as good as 4.x. Also, as you saw yourself, using an SMP kernel in FBSD 5.3 doesn't cause a performance hit in networking but it does in NBSD 2.0. So your choices seem to be use 4.11RC2 (full release due shortly) to get the best network response, 5.3 to get as good performance as NBSD 2.0 but with SMP, or use NBSD 2.0 to get as good perfomance as 5.3 but without SMP. Of course, you can wait until NBSD (your prefered OS) performs as well as FBSD, but that may be a lnng time.:) HTH, stheg P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from Windows boxes? Theories? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
it was said: Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a good explanation or does one have to investigate this further? Hello, First, I do not speak for anyone but myself. Therefore, any information this post contains is based solely on my understanding of that information and is only as accurate as that understanding is correct. To sum up your problem, you tested FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD 4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD and found that FreeBSD 4.11RC2 had the best ping responses from that group. What you want to know is why FBSD 5.3 doesn't respond as well as 4.11RC2. Is this correct? Assuming that it is, the answer is that 5.3 is the first stable release of the 5.x branch. One of the 5.x branch's main purposes is to make FBSD much more scalable in terms SMP support. Doing this requires removing the Giant lock. It had been hoped that the removal process would be finished in time for 5.3. Unfortunately, as often happens in a volunteer project delays occurred for various reasons, that was not the case. The incomplete removal meant that not all subsystems could be optimized properly. One of those subsystems is networking. This is not as bad as it sounds because while 5.3's network performance is not as good as 4.11RC2, it is no worse that of NBSD 2.0 or any Linux distro. Also, the optimization has already begun on networking and 5.4 should be _at least_ as good as 4.x. Also, as you saw yourself, using an SMP kernel in FBSD 5.3 doesn't cause a performance hit in networking but it does in NBSD 2.0. So your choices seem to be use 4.11RC2 (full release due shortly) to get the best network response, 5.3 to get as good performance as NBSD 2.0 but with SMP, or use NBSD 2.0 to get as good perfomance as 5.3 but without SMP. Of course, you can wait until NBSD (your prefered OS) performs as well as FBSD, but that may be a lnng time.:) HTH, stheg P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from Windows boxes? Theories? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ]
(Sorry about the multiple posts. I somehow sent this without a subject line before.) it was said: Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a good explanation or does one have to investigate this further? Hello, First, I do not speak for anyone but myself. Therefore, any information this post contains is based solely on my understanding of that information and is only as accurate as that understanding is correct. To sum up your problem, you tested FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD 4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD and found that FreeBSD 4.11RC2 had the best ping responses from that group. What you want to know is why FBSD 5.3 doesn't respond as well as 4.11RC2. Is this correct? Assuming that it is, the answer is that 5.3 is the first stable release of the 5.x branch. One of the 5.x branch's main purposes is to make FBSD much more scalable in terms SMP support. Doing this requires removing the Giant lock. It had been hoped that the removal process would be finished in time for 5.3. Unfortunately, as often happens in a volunteer project delays occurred for various reasons, that was not the case. The incomplete removal meant that not all subsystems could be optimized properly. One of those subsystems is networking. This is not as bad as it sounds because while 5.3's network performance is not as good as 4.11RC2, it is no worse that of NBSD 2.0 or any Linux distro. Also, the optimization has already begun on networking and 5.4 should be _at least_ as good as 4.x. Also, as you saw yourself, using an SMP kernel in FBSD 5.3 doesn't cause a performance hit in networking but it does in NBSD 2.0. So your choices seem to be use 4.11RC2 (full release due shortly) to get the best network response, 5.3 to get as good performance as NBSD 2.0 but with SMP, or use NBSD 2.0 to get as good perfomance as 5.3 but without SMP. Of course, you can wait until NBSD (your prefered OS) performs as well as FBSD, but that may be a lnng time.:) HTH, stheg P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from Windows boxes? Theories? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a SMP box
it was said: Hi there I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual p3 box: asus cuv4x-d mobo adaptec AHA-2940 uw and 29160 snip /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x3fbfc data=0x1c04+0x112c syms=[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7] int=000d err= efl=00030246 eip= eax=8000f000 ebx= ecx=feff edx=0082 esi=0002 edi=000c ebp=0002 esp=fffc cs=cc00 ds=9ec0 es=44acfs= gs= ss=9d58 cs:eip=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ss:esp=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff BTX halted I have tried unloading ACPI with no luck I have tried all options but I get the same message Hello, The only times I have seen this is when the install disc had corrupted files. Try downloading the disc 1 iso again and reburning it. HTH, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ]
it was said Just a few day ago i installed NetBSD 2.0 to make a final stroke to my decision as i got this computer on the 16. of november. Main advantage in my opinion is that raidframe performs better than vinum (at least with my setup and with the tests i performed). There are some other topics but mainly subjective and not the matter of this email. I guess i'm going to stick with it, developers and time will do the rest for me. :) But what's most important is that your mail gave me the confidence that my hardware isn't faulty. It's also very nice that you shed some light on the that whole network subject. Glad to be of help. Raidframe had been ported to FBSD 5.x, but it was removed because kernel changes broke it, and no one volunteered to fix it. I think gvinum replaced vinum in 5.3 for the same reason. I don't use software raid, so I don't really know. But NBSD 2.0 is very nice. A company that I do consulting for has just chosen it as the OS for a new embedded product in their pipeline. I've been toying with the idea of idea of web-enabling my toaster by hooking up temperature sensors and a camera, so web surfers could make toast at my house. I was going to use a 8051 chip and write the code, but maybe I'll use NBSD on an embedded board. (Someday, I may want to add the sprinkler system, pool pump,) P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from Windows boxes? Theories? In my case i'm using windows because it's pre-installed on the laptop i use and i never had luck with *bsd/linux on the desktop (and especially laptops). This was meant as a humorous question because of certain Windows users' not well-reasoned or -argued posts on this very topic in the last few days. Well, enough said. (Maybe i'll make some space free for FreeBSD 5.3 to give a try but i'm not to optimistic that it will suffice my needs) Different tools for different jobs. Although, in the thread you referenced, you said you were having major SMP problems with NBSD. I hope you get those sorted. Those, I would think, are worse than any network and vinum performance problems. In any event you may wish to check back when 5.4 is released. (No release schedule yet.) Thanks for your kind assistance and best regards, Jochen Keil You're welcome and see you on the 'net. stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridge with PF
it was said: Hello, after doing kldload -v bridge, I can see that I have it: snip Where is the mention of bridge with pf ? Or am I misunderstanding who bridge is supposed to work with pf ? I do have PF compiled into the kernel, it currently is doing NAT with packet filtering. Running 5.3. Hello, Bridge(4) doesn't work very well with pf. Check the pf list archives for the exact details. You may want to explain what you're trying to accomplish on that list as sometimes a work-around is possible. Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thread Scheduling
it was said: snip My question is, will I notice any performance improvement by using the new scheduler opposed to the 4.4BSD scheduler on an SMP system and can the new scheduler be utilized on a single processor system? The intended use of the SMP system is for MySQL databases only. snip Hello, I asked about the new scheduler on the performance list. Below is (posted on list) reply: FWIW, one of the reasons that there hasn't been as much interest in SCHED_ULE lately is likely that several of the features previously only present in SCHED_ULE are now also present in SCHED_4BSD -- for example, making more effective uses of IPIs in reducing latency during inter-process communication across processors. While SCHED_ULE does contain a number of interesting things not present in SCHED_4BSD, the 4BSD scheduler has hardly gone un-improved in that time. However, Jeff Robserson does seem to have picked up recently on both VFS SMP locking and ULE. The scheduler tracing and visualization tools he committed a couple of weeks ago are really quite neat tools. Robert N M Watson So we'll just have to wait until ULE is fully baked to see which scheduler is best for a given application. For a more definitive answer, you may want to ask directly on the performance list. HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
it was said: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? Peter Peace is never more than one thought away GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
it was said: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? Peter Peace is never more than one thought away GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10
it was said: snip However, after performing a number of I/O and Postgresql tests on different equipment, the performance proved to be considerably faster when using Fedora. Fedora with XFS was the clear performance winner in every test, followed by Fedora with EXT3, then FreeBSD. I was surprised to find such a dramatic difference between Fedora with XFS and FreeBSD. In almost every test Fedora(XFS) was dramatically faster performing the exact same operations on the same hardware. snip Are there any good reasons for such a difference. Your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! --Nick Pavlica Hello, Although your email has all the classic hallmarks of a troll, I will rise to the bait. You need to post your hardware and software configs for both OSs, along with your test methodology to get anything other than the email equivalent shrug of the shoulders. The software configs need to include your kernel conf, make.conf, dmesg, etc. and their Linux counterparts. In the test methodology, include the names of whatever benchmarking software, if any, that you used. Don't forget the stats that showed the claimed perfomance difference. Throw in anything else you think that one would need to reproduce your tests. Regards, stheg P.S. If the name in your addy is meant to be phonetically identical to the name Linux, it isn't. Linus pronounces it lee-nooks, where the oo sound is the same as in smooth, not foot (neutrally-accented American pronunciation). After living in the States for some time now, I know Americans say it the same way you apparently do, but as with most things these days, just because an American says it doesn't make it true. That's a joke! Don't you people get all jingoistic or xenophobic on me. HA! That's another joke! Sorry, but the recent Coronat^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Inauguration has left me slightly stupified. -My last joke! Really! I wouldn't want to have Homeland Security think I'm really anti-American. Besides, I have to go, someone's pounding on the door. I wonder who it could be at this time of ni __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba - microsoft-ds connection?
it was said: What is microsoft-ds? Couldn't find anything about it in MS' knowledgebase. Marty Hello, It MS's Directory Service, what is usually called SMB. As long as it's between systems on your network, it's nothing to worry about. HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | More Info
it was said: All, This post is not about BSD VS. Linux and should not be taken that way. I think that Flame Wars/Engineer Wars are waste of time and energy. I was surprised by my test results and didn't want to take FBSD out of the loop just yet. There may be flaws in my testing that have led me to inaccurate results. I didn't share the testing details in the original mail because of time constraints, and the notes are fairly lengthy. I will add my notes to this mail so that there is a better understanding of what tests I performed, and their results. It's important to note that I did not tweak any of the default settings of the OS or DB. The notes should be generally self explanatory, but will be more that happy to clarify any questions that you have. As a side note, I chose the email address linicks because by name is Nick, and thought it was a fun play on words. I appreciate all of your feedback, so that I can better understand the differences in these great operating systems and communities. Thanks Again! --Nick Pavlica Hello, I'm glad you weren't trolling. I, too, think the OS wars are a load of cark. Each OS has it strengths and weaknesses. Time is better spent increasing the strengths and fixing the weaknesses than arguing about whose are _better_. I can say right off that FBSD's out-of-the-box state is intended for stability rather than performance. The real question is what they do after tuning. Here I would expect FBSD to do somewhat better, especially on the uni-processor machine. Running the tests on the SC400 hardware won't be a problem for me, but I have no spare SMP or SCSI equipment to do the PE2400 tests - which I think would be the more interesting. Perhaps someone else on the list can do this? Not to provide a head-to-head showdown but to see if something is actually wrong that isn't already being looked at. (Everyone knows threading has problems that are being dealt with. That's why I'm not so sure FBSD will out-perform Fedora at this time on an SMP box.) To be on the safe side, I'll cc this to the performance list, as well. Maybe someone has already done something similar and has quick answers. Thus, I'm including unquoted the rest of your email below. Finally, the addy thing was just me getting in a shot at you if you had turned out to be trolling. Regards, stheg The tests and results below here. I don't know how the formatting is going to turn out. If its too mangled, see the original post on questions@ OK, The testing notes already :) --- Hardware Configs: Dell PE 2400 - Dual PIII 500Mhz - 512Mb Ram - Perc 2si controller - (2) 10k ultra160 drives in a raid 1 configuration. Dell SC400 - P4 2.4 Ghz (not hyperthreaded) - 512Mb Ram - Stock 40Gb IDE 7200RPM Postgresql Test Scripts: CREATE TABLE test1 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE FUNCTION build_data() RETURNS integer AS ' DECLARE i INTEGER DEFAULT 0; curtime TIMESTAMP; BEGIN FOR i IN 1..100 LOOP curtime := ''now''; INSERT INTO test1 VALUES (curtime, ''test string'', i); END LOOP; RETURN 1; END; ' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql'; SELECT build_data(); Then the following script is run under the time program to ascertain how long it takes to run: CREATE TABLE test2 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE TABLE test3 AS SELECT * FROM test1; INSERT INTO test2 SELECT * FROM test1 WHERE ((anumber % 2) = 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 2) = 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 13) = 0); CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT test1.thedate AS t1date, test2.thedate AS t2date, test1.astring AS t1string, test2.astring AS t2string, test1.anumber AS t1number, test2.anumber AS t2number FROM test1 JOIN test2 ON test1.anumber=test2.anumber; UPDATE test3 SET thedate='now' WHERE ((anumber % 5) = 0); DROP TABLE test4; CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT * FROM test1; DELETE FROM test4 WHERE ((anumber % 27) = 0); VACUUM ANALYZE; VACUUM FULL; DROP TABLE test4; DROP TABLE test3; DROP TABLE test2; VACUUM FULL; - sc400 freeBSD5: $ time dd bs=1024 if=/dev/zero of=tstfile count=1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 71.807645 secs (14953029 bytes/sec) 71.82real 0.68 user 8.83 sys 71.82 / 60 = 1.197 -- 517 nick.pavlica -160 1212K 588K wdrain 0:02 12.35% 5.91% dd 517 nick.pavlica -160 1212K 588K wdrain 0:13 12.48% 12.35% dd $ time dd bs=1024 if=/dev/zero of=tstfile count=2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 2147483648 bytes transferred in 136.815925 secs (15696153 bytes/sec) 136.85 real 1.29
Re: Samba - microsoft-ds connection?
it was said: snip Ahah, then maybe there is something to worry about. snip Marty Hello, Yes, this is a well-known attack vector in the Windows world. Regardless of a gateway's OS, one should be running as good as possible firewall checking all incoming and outgoing packets. Windows machines in particular are targets and should be running anti-virus, spyware, and firewall software locally, as well, to add another layer of protection. Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD logo design competition
I was not asked my opinion about whether or not the logo needs changing. I would like to clarify the reason[s] for this. When you say, The FreeBSD Project is pleased to announce..., the statement implies a majority of the FreeBSD Project made this decision. Who is the FreeBSD Project? According to the announcement, The FreeBSD Project is a team of individuals from all corners of the globe who volunteer time and expertise to develop the FreeBSD operating system. When you say team do you mean only core? Are those few people the entire Project? You don't say that, so whether or not one is a member depends entirely if one volunteers to develop FreeBSD. The question is what does develop mean. Does one who donates money and/or hardware count? No. By your definition, the Project includes only those who supply time and expertise - only those that supply their personal service. What counts as expertise? Programming obviously, but what if a person produces only poor quality ports? What about documention? Clearly the person is supplying time and expertise, but does that count as developing FreeBSD? If yes, then what about answering questions on the mailing lists? Would that also count? Now as to the need to change the logo, to quote the announcement, This character sometimes treated with misinterpreted in the religious and cultural context. Over the years, the only complaints I have ever heard have come from America's Taliban. Leaving aside the question of whether or not the complainers are in a position to make any sort of IT decision, one must ask what is their motivation for complaining. They are simply trying to force their religious orthodoxy on others. These are the same people trying to eliminate the barrier between state and church to make the United States into a theocratic country. Therefore, these complaints can be categorized as coming from an irrational minority that should be ignored. A second point is made, And this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view, but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside. The point is better phrased as, The FreeBSD Project has decided that the beastie logo is unprofessional. This being the case, why does the Project think that the best way to get a professional logo is follow pretty much the same procedure that led to the beastie logo? Wouldn't a company that specializes in logo design/image consulting be far more qualified to design and select a new logo? Consider how much better Linux is doing in the maketplace than FreeBSD with its professional penguin logo. I, for one, think that logo choice is too important to be left amatuer attempts. A third point that was not raised is what else can be done to make FreeBSD look more professional. All official communication should be vetted by and reported as coming from a native American-English speaker. For example, from the announcement, written by Jun Kuriyama, And this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view, but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside. The grammar is abominable. How can FreeBSD possibly be taken seriously as a professional product as long as it allows official communications to come from those that can barely communicate in American-English? Furthermore, Americans have time and again proven to be among the most xenophobic nationalities, especially toward other races and religions. Any communications should come from someone with an easy-to-pronounce northern European surname (but not French) and, if at all possible, a first name that sounds American. I realize that at first many will find my last point to be offensive, but I think it is just as important as changing the logo and should be given the same consideration. Best Regards, Stheg Olloydson P.S. Many cultures, such as the Japanese, think that you get what you pay for, so having the name FreeBSD is no different from being named ShiteBSD. I am looking forward to the competition to rename the OS. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SPAM: Score 2.5: Re: FreeBSD logo design competition
--- Johnson David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: stheg olloydson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now as to the need to change the logo, to quote the announcement, This character sometimes treated with misinterpreted in the religious and cultural context. Over the years, the only complaints I have ever heard have come from America's Taliban. Leaving aside the question of whether or not the complainers are in a position to make any sort of IT decision, one must ask what is their motivation for complaining. They are simply trying to force their religious orthodoxy on others. These are the same people trying to eliminate the barrier between state and church to make the United States into a theocratic country. Therefore, these complaints can be categorized as coming from an irrational minority that should be ignored. Please keep your personal politics and cultural bigotry off of these lists. There is no America's Taliban, and the use of the term is used solely to incite emotions. Thinking that just because people share you views on operating systems they must also share you views on religion and foreign policy is sheer hubris. I realize that geeks and hackers tend to be irreligious, and Open Source a collection of global communities, but not until today have I seen such anti-Christian and anti-America bigotry in the FreeBSD community. Is this to be the new standard of discourse? If so, tell me now so I can avoid the rush in switching to another BSD. As a Christian I am not in the least offended by Beastie. But I am getting quite offended by people stereotyping my religion, nation and culture. David Johnson Well, well, well! Hit too close to home did I? I said that those complaining about the beastie belong to an irrational minority that wish to impose their religion on others. In what way is this statement bigotry or anti-Christian or anti-American? You, however, make a very revealing statement when you say, But I am getting quite offended by people stereotyping my religion, nation and culture. The operative word here is my. Why do you think that I am not a Christian American produced by the same culture as you? Is it because I have a name not typically associated with being an American? I think your assumption proves my xenophobia remark, at least in regards to you, don't you? Best regards, Stheg Olloydson __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD logo design competition
it was said: As a non-Christian, all I have to say to David is right on. Sounds like you're another person who, for reasons that you know better than I, you seem to have taken my remarks as a personal attack. I also like Beastie, and would be greatly annoyed if FreeBSD got rid of it. Political correctness sucks -- whatever side of the political spectrum it comes from. Agreed to a point, the point being WHY beastie is replaced or, in newspeak, supplemented. If beastie were being supplemented as a routine matter of business as logos sometimes are, I wouldn't be annoyed, only disappointed. However, as you point out, beastie is being replaced in a capitulation to what you mischaracterize as political correctness. This is a case of theological correctness; politics doesn't enter into the discussion. What I said is that those who complained about beastie belong to a brand of religious ideology belonging to an irrational minority and as such they and their complaints should be ignored. However, so-called free thinkers who bravely equate George Bush to Iranian mullahs and believe people who have a problem with ripping the heads off of nine-month fetuses are no different than the freaking Taliban are the same idiots who buy into Michael Moore's conspiracy theories, idolize the mass murderer Che Guevara, and think the CIA assassinated reggae singers because America was about to chill out too much. I don't believe I mentioned anything about Bush, Iran, fetuses, Michael Moore, Che Guevara, or the CIA. Please keep to the discussion at hand if you're not irrational. And, oh yes, I am also a Maryland Republican living in painfully liberal Montgomery County, where our great progressive government leaders, unlike the Talibanesque John Ashcroft, have banned smoking in bars, not to mention a flurry of others pieces of legislation that regulate people's private lives. Sounds like you are unhappy with your local government. I would register and vote them out of office if I were you. That's how a representative democracy works. And let's not forget, Stheg, that leftist European governments are not known for their great libertarian restraint. The anti-terrorism laws of many European nationsthink France, maybe Holland soon enough) make the Patriot Act look like something out of Mayberry. Now I'm really puzzled. Are you saying that you are moving to Europe to get away from painfully liberal Montgomery County? I don't think you'll like it there after the novelty wears off. Compared to most of America, it's cold and expensive. Perhaps you, like Mr. Johnson, are assuming from my name that I am not American and are making a Europeans are worse than Americans argument. Once again, your words do more to prove than disprove my xenophobia remark. Know thyselves, hypocrites. Fundies aren't the only ones that need to mind their own business. Based on this statement, I infer you are calling people against religious oppression hypocrites, an interesting but contextually irrelevant remark. Unless you mean to imply that I personally am a hypocrite. If that is the case, adduce the statements I have made to make your case. You go on to say Fundies -and others- need to mind their own business. The problem here is the Fundies (your word, not mine) aren't minding their own business; they're minding ours! Also at issue is the way the decision to supplement beastie was made. Apparently, the FreeBSD Project thinks sneaking around and handing out a _fait accompli_ is the proper way to be professional in this community. As a member of this community, I AM minding my own business by taking them to task for a rather base betrayal of trust. Did I mention I like Beastie?) Good for you. Then you, too, should be against supplementing beastie for the same reason I am. Rob. Best regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far....
it was cried into the wilderness of rancor by Dag-Erling Smørgrav on Fri Feb 11 09:30:50 2005: snip Likewise, Beastie is a mascot, not a logo. In fact, it fails the primary and most important test of logoness: it is not exclusive to the FreeBSD project, but is shared by all BSD projects. It also fails several other important tests of logoness: it is not under the FreeBSD project's direct control (our use of it is subject to the whim and mercy of Kirk McKusick); it is not a registered trademark; it is probably too diluted already to even be eligible to be registered as a trademark. snip FINALLY! A worthwhile point of view - not obscured by emotion or reproduction mumbo-jumbo! These are extremely important points, the most important being Beastie doesn't belong to FreeBSD in any way, shape, or form. This fact renders all other arguments moot. Forget all of the tradition, offense, professional, etc. time-wasting, bandwidth consuming crapola that's been posted on this topic. I submit that whether or not replacing Beastie as FBSD's main symbol is a good idea is irrelevant. It is _necessary_. A company needs to exclusively control an undiluted brand identifier. Does anyone know of a business, other than the odd one person or family run shop that doesn't have that? Would you trust a friend to hold the rights to your logo (mascot, whatever)? Then why should FreeBSD? Of course, the Project could buy the rights to Beastie, but then we run into the dilution problem Mr. Smørgrav mentions. The image is non-exclusive to FBSD. Even worse, I recall a post on questions@ by someone reporting its use by a condom machine company in England and Wales. Trying to enforce clear trademark use is hard enough. For the Project to go after unauthorized use of Beastie would be expensive and probably impossible. So there it is. Mr. Smørgrav should be thanked for a business-based reason for the change by making an irrefutable argument. Those that STILL disagree should consult a lawyer that specializes in intellectual property law. Still going to use Beastie when I can, Stheg P.S. My agreement with Mr. Smørgrav's argument should not be construed as agreeing with what many (me included) perceive as the sneaky way this issue has been handled. Based on the comments from the few commiters that made comments on this topic, a discussion took place among the commiters who then unilaterally made the decision. As is obvious, this was a very bad idea. I propose that in the future, such discussions be held on a special-use list to avoid the appearance of you're neither important nor smart enough to discuss this and to prevent the list-pollution we are now seeing on [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.P.S. Whether you agree with my position on this or not, will those who comments on this topic have devolved into I'm going to make my point to that idiot yet posts PLEASE TAKE IT OFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your one-upmanship makes both sides look stupid and makes useful information, like Mr. Smørgrav's points, difficult to find. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
it was said: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Having such accounts doesn't give you a static IP. A static IP is one that never changes. Only your ISP (Adelphia, in your case) can supply that. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? No. You don't have a static IP, so this won't work. That's what companies like dyndns and no-ip.com are for. Read how their services work for an more detailed explanation. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? No. The only way to do reverse DNS is to have the IP(s) delegated to you by your ISP. Unless you get a large block of IP addresses assigned to you, this is unlikely to happen. (I have 16 addresses and my ISP said, No! when I asked. I knew they would, but one hopes) 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? No. You'll have to use the reflector service. Mailservers try to connect to port 25 because that's the port the RFC says to use. Setting your server to 8080 will make it useless. Thanks. Again, this stuff just confuses the heck out of me. You're wlecome. I suggest you read the book _DNS and BIND_ by Albitz and Liu, published by O'Reilly. It's generally considered the definitive work on this topic and will save you many hours of frustration. After reading it you'll know why you can run web and mail servers from a dynamic IP but not a name server. One thing to consider, clearly you don't have a commercial account. If I were you, I would check what Adelphia can do if they catch you running servers from a residental account. I know somebody that got caught by rr.com. They back billed him for a commercial account. It totaled more than US$6000.00. Of course, that's not as bad as what Buckeye Cable did to the users that uncapped their modems a couple years ago. http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power-down problem on 5.3
it was said: I have just installed fbsd 5.3 release on a Medion P4 notebook. Everything seems to work OK, except the power down function. If I run shutdown -p now the system reboots instead of shutting down. snip Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen Hello, I just tested it on a 5.3_p5 box and it worked. Do you have ACPI enabled? Maybe a bug was fixed between _RELEASE and _p5? If you have ACPI enabled, try cvsupping. (Don't forget to read src/UPDATING if you do.) HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Concealing short disconnects
it was said: Hello guys! I have a few machines behind my FreeBSD box. The box connects to ISP via ppp (PPPoE protocol). It's all working very nicely, but the ISP is a pain - it disconnects every 24 hours. I can reconnect in just a moment - so the diconnect is usually less than a second long, but many applications, like ICQ/MSN and games feel the disconnect. The matter is that these applications can handle fairly large packet loss (e.g. Counter-Strike can cope with at least 15-second long 100% packet loss), but AFAIK it's in the nature of the TCP/UDP that a disconnect is a disconnect. As I know that FreeBSD is full of magic, is there any way to conceal these reconnects as short moments of 100% packet loss? I am ashamed to know very little about protocols' technicalities, but I'll look into any sources you advise. Best wishes, Andrew P. Hello, This is an interesting question. It could be done, but it would take some real work to do it, I think. Essentially, you would need a box that acts as a cache hold a few seconds of network traffic that would also properly respond properly to local and remote requests. Also, to ensure that multiple outages don't empty the cache, a mechanism is needed to answer local requests slightly slower than remote requests. This would cause the cache to be ever increasing. To prevent the cache from causing too much lag (from the remote end's point of view) periodically the mechanism would have to reverse direction, so to speak. And so on Of course, I could be totally wrong about this. Hopefully, somebody will correct me if I am. Regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Belkin wireless card issue
it was said: snip However, my other card, a PCI Belkin Wireless F5D7000 is not being recognized. This is a problem because the integrated NIC has no connection, I'm on a wireless network. Any clue on how to make FreeBSD pickup this interface correctly? Right now it's showing it as unknown network device Hello, That card uses a Broadcom chipset. FBSD has several drivers for Broadcom chips. If none of those work, you could try a Windows driver via Project Evil. HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD 5.3
it was said Hi, My name is Bryan and I am wondering if I can freely distribute FreeBSD 5.3. If I can redistribute it, is there anything I need to include with the ISO images when I distribute them? I read that I need to include the copyright notice. Do I need to include a seperate document for this copyright notice (text file or html document) or is the copyright notice in one of the ISO images (also, is the copyright notice that I would need to add the one found at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html)? I know these might be pretty stupid questions, but its better to be safe than sorry in my opinion. Also, is there a limit on the amount I can redistribute? Thanks, Bryan Hello, If you're redistributing discs made from ISOs that you downloaded, you don't need to do a thing. All the info will be be there automatically. I'm cc'ing this to advocacy for correction in case things have changed since last I checked (sometime in the last millenium). Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Free BSD without floppy and bootable CD-ROM-drive
it was said by Anthony Atkielski ygb writes: I have notebook IP-120MHz, without FDD He is not boot from CD. It is very old. How can i install FreeBSD on in? Create a boot floppy. You can then boot from the floppy and install from the CD. A fully procedure for doing this may be found here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html Look at part 2.2.7 on that page. It explains how to create the floppies. -- Anthony Hello, Because you don't have a floppy drive, Mr. Atkielski's suggestion will not work. The link he gave you is a good one. Skip section 2.2.7 and read section 2.13 instead. It explains how to install if you do not have a floppy drive. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Free BSD without floppy and bootable CD-ROM-drive
it was said by Kevin Kinsey: Anthony Atkielski wrote: stheg olloydson writes: Because you don't have a floppy drive, Mr. Atkielski's suggestion will not work. The link he gave you is a good one. Skip section 2.2.7 and read section 2.13 instead. It explains how to install if you do not have a floppy drive. If you have neither a CD drive or a floppy drive, I don't see how you can install FreeBSD at all. The only option then is network (or tape), but to use either of these you have to persuade your existing OS on the machine to load something from them and turn control over to it (like a boot). Most operating systems are understandably lacking in mechanisms to do this (although there is a program under NT that will wipe the system clean in one move--I don't think it ships any more, since it was too dangerous). Section 2.13 assumes the use of a boot floppy or bootable CD in all cases, unless I'm reading incorrectly, which is possible but doesn't seem likely. The documentation is a bit ambiguous. It states that the install files need to be where sysinstall can find them, but it doesn't state how to get sysinstall to run in the first place. Just below this section it does say: You have a FreeBSD disk, and FreeBSD does not recognize your CD/DVD drive, but MS-DOS/Windows® does. You want to copy the FreeBSD installations files to a DOS partition on the same computer, and then install FreeBSD using those files. This certainly implies that one can install FBSD from a DOS partition if one copies the correct files in the correct manner. That method is explained in section 2.13.4. Luckily for me, I have never had to confront this issue, so I have no idea if you or I am correct. You've got to bootstrap a kernel into RAM *somehow* to do the work. This section discusses alternative distribution media, but doesn't explain an alternate booting of a kernel+sysinstall. Without a bootable CD and no floppy hardware, the only alternatives I can think of are: 1. Install FreeBSD on the HDD by moving it to another machine that has a floppy drive, then move it back. 2. If your BIOS supports network booting, it might be possible to get the laptop started diskless, and then run sysinstall over the network. Sound like a big project to me, though. I've toyed with the idea of starting a diskless LAN (mostly for fun), but haven't had guts to try it yet. 3. Anything else your BIOS might support that you can figure out how to get started with, but I have no idea what devices those might be Kevin Kinsey Something not mentioned but really needs to be is hardware compatibilty. the OP, ygb, should check the Hardware Notes to see if his/her system will even work under FBSD. Because the laptop is older, the amount of RAM may determine which release to run, 4.11 or 5.3. Going through the effort the install may take only to discover the end result is unusable would be unfortunate. Best regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Free BSD without floppy and bootable CD-ROM-drive
it was said: Hello stheg, snip no longer relevant posts Hardvare configuration: Intel Pentium 120MHz 80Mb RAM (!) 4,3 Gb HDD Hitachi CD-ROM -8x Panasonic (I CAN NOT boot from it) NO LAN, NO FDD, 2,5-HDD - I can't connect this HDD to desktop and install FreeBSD on it. BUT I read in file /tools/00_index.txt (line 1): setup.exe Prepare for installation from a DOS partition. I hope it help me, but I can not FOUND IT - I can't found setup.exe in the installatoin CD-ROM, in the ftp-server on freebsd.org Where I can found this utilite??? Hello, Please include the list in all replies. As I said, I have never done what you are trying to do, and this is one of those questions that needs someone who has done it to step in with some good advice, so I really cannot be of very much help. Judging by what I have read, at some point you could install from a DOS partition without using floppies, but that is now not possible. The file you mention is dated 1997, but was updated in 1999. In the same directory is a readme dated in 1999 that lists the directory's contents, and it does not mention setup.exe. In fact, it doesn't mention most of the stuff in the directory. So I think both are out-of-date and useless. The install.txt file, dated Nov. 2004, in the root directory on a 5.3 CD says this: 1.5.3 Installing from a DOS partition To prepare for installation from an MS-DOS partition you should simply copy the files from the distribution into a directory called FREEBSD on the Primary DOS partition (C:). For example, to do a minimal installation of FreeBSD from DOS using files copied from the CDROM, you might do something like this: C:\ MD C:\FREEBSD C:\ XCOPY /S E:\BASE C:\FREEBSD\BASE Assuming that E: was where your CD was mounted. For as many distributions as you wish to install from DOS (and you have free space for), install each one in a directory under C:\FREEBSD - the BIN dist is only the minimal requirement. Once you've copied the directories, you can simply launch the installation from floppies as normal and select ``DOS'' as your media type when the time comes. As you can see, it says you MUST use floppies for a DOS install. Maybe this is different for 4.11; I don't know. If it is not different, your only hope seems to be either an NFS, SLIP, or PLIP install. But before checking into this, I strongly suggest you check your hardware compatibility. If you want to run 4.11, see this link about the hardware it supports: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/i386/index.html If you want to run 5.3, see this link about the hardware it supports: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/5-STABLE/hardware/i386/index.html Good luck, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tab completion
it was said: I used vipw to set my regular user's shell to tcsh. /etc/passwd shows it correct now but I still appear to be getting sh as my shell. If I run tcsh, I then get the tab completion. But how do I get the terminal to put me in tcsh automatically? Ben Hello, When you say my shell, do you mean root's shell? If so, changing root's shell is not a good idea. That's what the toor account is for. (Let the bikeshedding begin!) If you mean your personal shell, try running pwd_mkdb on /etc/passwd to see if that fixes the problem. HTH, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: areca RAID (6) Controller knwon?
it was said: Hello, I have no personal experience with the board, but you may find this review interesting: http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20041227/ HTH, stheg __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are quotas possbile on md filesystems?
it was said: snip So after all that, NOW I notice that there is already a published patch for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/74105 Oh, well. It was an amusing exercise. - Bob Eh? Maybe _I_ am the one missing something. The link you provided goes to a patch for IPX. The only PRs for mdmfs I find are bin/57641, 64153, and 66763, and those do not seem to deal with this issue. I think you ought to submit your patch because mdmfs' default behavior is a problem. Regards, stheg __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are quotas possbile on md filesystems?
--- Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 11:39 pm, you wrote: it was said: snip Argh! I ought to quit posting things until I've had at least two good nights of sleep. bin/57641 does appear to me to address the same issue as my patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/57641 Sorry for the confusion. - Bob Apparently the bin/57641 patch was committed after 5.3-Release. I just cvsup'd my source, and I still do not see it. Maybe it will be in 5.4. Better late than never :P Regards, stheg __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 jail
it was said: snip I need help. I try to make jail: make world DESTDIR= but got message, which description I found in /usr/src/UPDATING 20010919: snip Hello, I do not think the problem is the one from 3 and a half years ago. Much more recently the make world DESTDIR= function was broken. It did not work in 5.3-RELEASE and was bug-fixed afterward. See the thread at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063925.html (URL may have wrapped) for more details. You should cvsup to 5.3p5 and try again. That is what I am using and it works for me. Good luck, stheg __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE error creating jail
it was said: I am following the directions in man jail to set up a jail on my system: D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $D make world DESTDIR=$D ^ Try changing this line to env DESTDIR=$D make world cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D mount_devfs devfs $D/dev cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel make world DESTDIR=$D fails with the following error: make: don't know how to make /storage1/jail/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop I think this is a bug, but because a simple workaround exists, maybe it will become a training issue HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no patch whats going on
it was said: On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:52:30AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ That URL doesn't seem to have any details. openbsd and netbsd have taken action on this, but i see no movment in the freebsd camp Well, you wouldn't, on the freebsd-questions list. Security discussion happens on the freebsd-security mailing list. Kris Hello, Click on the Discussion and Solution links for the details. Nothing has been said about this on the security@ list. According to the site, this hole was disclosed 28.2.05. I wonder if this is the issue that Theo deRaadt was complaining about Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine can't read a cd
it was said: snip Data File Error: Starcraft is unable to read a required file. Your cd may not be in the drive. I can not get any cracks to work. I can use winefile to browse ^^ snip Can you get any software you haven't stolen to work? stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY
it was said: How install in FreeBSD NIC card nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY ? Hello, If you are using 5.3, try the nv driver in ports/net/. After building it, load it as a kernel module. I know it works for MCP2. This may be available in earlier versions, too; I do not know. good luck, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug?
Hello, While testing 5.3, I deliberately cut power to the box and powered up. Much to my surprise, I receive the following error: error 16 lba invalid format FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: The disk is/was formatted as UFS2 (dangerously dedicated) with softupdates. If I enter a command, nothing happens: FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot:fsck -y FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)fsck boot: If I enter a question mark, I get a listing of the root filesystem's contents. (If the disk format were truly unknown, how is this possible?) This problem appears to be identical to the one posted by cell on 3/14/05, so this would seem to be a repeatable problem. Because this is a test box, I could just flatten it and reinstall, I would rather do a graceful recovery. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this would be appreciated. Note: Any suggestions involving using Release Disc 2 are problematic. For some reason, the iso will not burn; the process hangs immediately. I downloaded it from four different sites, including ftp.freebsd.org with identical results. (The other three disc images burn correctly.) Thanks for your time, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug?
it was said: Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the following at the boot prompt 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader OR 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Ooops I guess the last one is 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Sorry Oh man I hat keyboard shortcuts. just pasted the wrong one again. 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Yup this is the one... I hope Hello, Thanks for the reply. I had tried that and kept getting the invalid format error. I am puzzled by the fact that I can get a directory list, but the boot loader thinks the format is wrong. Also it seems to be looking in /kernel and not /boot/kernel/. To work around the Disk 2 problem, I downloaded FreeSBIE and ran fsck from that. / reports as clean, but the box still does not boot. /usr and /home report HUGE numbers of uncorrectable errors and bad blocks. Tonight I am going to run SpinRite on the disk to see if the power outage really damaged the disk. (If it did, this will be the first time since the MFM/RLL disk days!) I will report the result of that test. Right now, I am thinking a power loss shutdown of 5.3 makes a system unrecoverable, but more of these tests are required before reaching that conclusion. Thanks, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem burning 5.3-RELEASE Disc 2 from iso
Hello, I have have downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE four iso set from four different ftp sites including ftp.freebsd.org. Disc 2 does not burn, but the others do. The process hangs immediately when trying. I have tried this on both FreeBSD using burncd on an Acer CD-RW and Windows 2000 using Nero on a BenQ CD-RW with the same result. Has anybody successfully burned Disc 2? If so where did you get it from and what program did you use? Thanks for your time, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login:
it was said: I am a trainee for a corporate company and I really need your assistance. My boss as left for an emergency leave. The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time and would very much appreciate any simple assistance. I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) Login: Please assist. I would very much appreciate Hello, You really should not do this if you do not know what you are doing. Although they _might_ get mad if you do not know how, they _will_ get mad if you try and break something. Ignorance is not a bad thing but stupidity is. Best regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot problems
it was said: hello , i have already the sameproblem when i boot with freebsd 5.3 since i have had a power cut .The message of the error is : error 16 Iba 191 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: error 16 Iba 191 No /kernel I have tried boot : /kernel.old but i have No /kernel.old and i don't know how do with the bootonly cd. Hello, The error you are seeing is caused by the boot loader looking in the wrong place for the kernel. Try this command at the boot prompt: boot: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel My guess is the error you see will change to Invalid Format. I saw your post the other day and cut the power to a 5.3 test box to see if the same thing would happen. It did. I think something happened to your and my systems that prevents the boot loader from recognizing UFS2. Here are the things I have tried so far. I booted into FreeSBIE (www.freesbie.org) and ran fsck to fix the filesystems. The / filesytem reported clean, but /home and /var had amazing numbers of unrecoverable errors and bad blocks. But I still got the Invalid Format error. So I put the drive in another 5.3 system and everything in / _seems_ readable. Right now I am running a surface diagnostic on the drive to see if the platters are damaged. That will not be finished until sometime tomorrow, but so far over half the disk has been checked and reports as undamaged. I will report the results of the completed test. I will run the power outage test several times to see if the same problems appear each time. Those results will be posted when finished. Regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does QEMU support Windows VPN ? (4th try)
it was said: I have been trying to connect from my FreeBSD box to a Microsoft VPN. I am running Windows 2000 Pro and also Windows Millennium inside QEMU. I have also tried using both -user-net and /dev/tun0 connections. The connections fail while trying to authenticate my name and password. Hello, What does the port maintainer say? qemu-0.6.2s.20050305 QEMU CPU Emulator Maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug?
it was said: --- stheg olloydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was said: Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the following at the boot prompt 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader OR 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Ooops I guess the last one is 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Sorry Oh man I hat keyboard shortcuts. just pasted the wrong one again. 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Yup this is the one... I hope Hello, Thanks for the reply. I had tried that and kept getting the invalid format error. I am puzzled by the fact that I can get a directory list, but the boot loader thinks the format is wrong. Also it seems to be looking in /kernel and not /boot/kernel/. To work around the Disk 2 problem, I downloaded FreeSBIE and ran fsck from that. / reports as clean, but the box still does not boot. /usr and /home report HUGE numbers of uncorrectable errors and bad blocks. Tonight I am going to run SpinRite on the disk to see if the power outage really damaged the disk. (If it did, this will be the first time since the MFM/RLL disk days!) I will report the result of that test. Right now, I am thinking a power loss shutdown of 5.3 makes a system unrecoverable, but more of these tests are required before reaching that conclusion. Actually - I'd have to contradict that. I've been running 5.3 on my fileserver on the home network, and during the last few nasty storms my UPS didn't survive, and died off 5 times in a week (yes, I replaced it), and each time FreeBSD came back up like a champ - no lost files (that I could find.. .yet) or anything! knocks on wood. Thanks, stheg Hello, Thanks for that information. I have reached that conclusion myself based on two more tests. Both those times the system came up fine. The time the system did break is very strange. I ran a disk surface diagnostic and the platters are fine. The strange thing is I can mount the drive in another 5.3 system and read the files, but I cannot boot up the drive because I get an error that says Invalid Format. Clearly something is broken in the boot process such that the process cannot recognize the filesystem type eventhough the data (except for some files in /var and /home) are intact. This seems to be similar to the problem that cell posted about that prompted my test in the first place. Odd that such a specific thing should break. Oh, well. Not the oddest thing I've seen an OS do by a longshot. Best regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade overview
it was said: I've used portupgrade for a while without really knowing much about it. I suppose thats a benefit. However, when it comes to really controlling the portupgrade processes, I find the man page of minimal use. Thats becuase the man pages seem to be written for someone who already knows everything that portupgrade is doing, ie there seems to be a lot of a priori knowledge expected of the reader. That's the unix way :) I am hoping there is better documentation of portupgrade. Something that specifies the reasons behind what it does -- why some of the switches are necessary, how to hold back upgrade of certain ports, how to only allow security updates to happen, etc. Does any such document exist? Hello, Try this link: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Installation
it was said: snip While loading the sysinstall it freezes up when it reaches sio0: type 8250. Yow! The book shows type 16550A The computer I am trying to install FreeBSD on is an AMD 700 Mhz maching with 512 K of memory. snip The 8250 UART has been obsolete for _years_ (pre-386 days). Try disabling the serial ports in BIOS. You may want to do the same to the parallel port, too. After you get set up, try enabling them to see what happens. Don't fool with 4.6; it's pretty old. (Not as old as an 8250 chip, but still) After getting the 4.8 system running, you should update to 4.11. Hang on to the book, though, because a lot of the information will still apply. The up-to-date handbook is available online at www.freebsd.org. Some ftp servers have it in pdf format if you dislike reading online. Out of curiosity, what motherboard make and model do you have? HTH, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question
it was said: If you updated your soirces/ports cvsup then portupgrade did what you asked it to do. It Updated all outdated packages/ports and there dependencies. I'm convinced that you are right. However, why don't I show the other dependencies? Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements. cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake, gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot bone's connected to the toe bone :). hth, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question
it was said: But how does it work (/usr/ports/Makefile doesn't have a SEARCH statement) and is it documented somewhere, like in a MAN page? The handbook, ¶4.3, mentions 'make search' but doesn't explain how it works. Hello, It uses /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. I doubt the options in there are officially documented, unless they are in the Developer's Handbook. There used to be a really good replacement for make search that had a lot of nifty options. Because I rarely used it (or make search), what it was called is lost to the mists of foggy memory Regards, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Userland dig/host for lookups against /etc/hosts?
it was said: It works if I ping 'hostname', but how can I find out the IP of 'hostname' from the command line? Hello, Would not grep 'hostname' /etc/hosts do this? HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rebuilding everything
it was said: Darksidex wrote: How could I re-compile and re-install everything to take into account the new directives in make.conf? Ciao Vittorio You can use portupgrade -vaf snip I still consider myself very new to most of this, though, so I'm not certain, but I think the system should be able to determine your CPUTYPE automatically, without needing it hardcoded in make.conf. I think you should only need to use this directive if for some reason it's improperly detecting your cpu type. snip Hello, Using CPUTYPE= in make.conf causes the complier to optimize for the specific CPU. Otherwise, it does a generic compile that would run on any CPU. The two easiest ways to improve system performance are to build a custom kernel that has all the uneeded options and devices removed and to tweak make.conf. Before doing either, read man tuning and man make.conf. Also, to find out what all the stuff in the kernel conf does, see /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES (assuming you're running 5.x on an Intel or Intel-compatible platform. hth, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Freebsd Install Guide Available
it was said: I think this is great, but there should be a project leader to regulate overall structure of the Handbook and other documents as that is perhaps where the greatest amount of work is needed. Could we at least have a mailing list for writers? Ask and you shall receive: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic
it was said: 4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the server, and I wanted to try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP. I know there is a solution for this by adding a kernel option, but i'm completely CLUELESS. Can anyone give a hint? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote: I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9. Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is simply NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still considered as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of course I can't tell you which one. So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10 on that machine. It will probably solve most of your problems. Jorn Hello, I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may be worse than you think. On the other hand, its solution is close: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html Refer to item 2 under show stopper defects. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Receiving your address on my tv
it was said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list. Please keep the mailing list CCed on all replies. sylvia bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for answering my email. Believe me this is not a joke. It's driving me crazy. My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable in Las Vegas, NV. The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS. The address looks something like this: http://[n:][e:2000101][8A41] What makes you think this address has anything to do with FreeBSD? I've received other addressess also, but you are the first ones kind enough to answer me. It begins with a solid black snip start up again. I've tried to tape it because everybody else is asleep and no one believes me, but it won't tape. When I play the tape back I just get a blurry screen. snip Hello, What you have there is an ingress problem. The question is what's causing it. It may be due to signal leakage in the actual cable. If so, your neighbors should see the same thing at the same time you do. Ask them. Either way, Cox needs to test the coax from your set top box all the way to the optical node. Have someone come out with a strength meter. It may be a noisy tap, and they won't find that testing from the headend. The fact you can't tape it, though, is interesting and suggests that the signal isn't coming through the cable. Perhaps someone within wireless range is doing something that they ought to be doing better, and your tuner is picking it up. That would be an FCC problem. HTH, Stheg PS. BTW, why _do_ you think http://[n:][e:2000101][8A41] is related to FreeBSD? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?
it was said: On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi wrote: On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote: http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631 You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64. Why? This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64 architecture. It is Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4 and compatible with the AMD64 stuff Chad Hello, Actually, what it says is, Intel's extensions, which it first used in the Xeon and are called EM64T, are compatible with AMD's extensions. I wouldn't infer that to mean more than it says: Intel's _extensions_ are compatible AMD's _extensions_. A quick experiment would tell. Because these same extensions exist in the Xeon, by your reasoning, the AMD64 codebase should run on a Xeon platform, nee? Regards, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same
it was said: Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves. Umm - not quite, right? That is, if a block goes bad and you get a read error, the drive isn't going to do any substituting at that point. You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to access (read) that block. It's only when you allow another *write* to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for the one that went bad. SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ). If the drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is set. Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks (for home use) years ago. I presumed the more common case these days, that we were talking about IDE disks. In fact doesn't this (from the original question): ad0s1a: hard error necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk? I don't believe any (current) ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads, will they? Though of course serial ATA drives seem to be the future and are taking on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes by. Both ATA and SCSI drives may relocate blocks that were difficult to read (e.g. correctable errors, took multiple attempts, etc). But if the block can't be recovered at all, the drive will still report an error to the OS (in addition to relocation). Hello, A tool that all may find useful is SpinRite 6.0 available from Gibson Research at http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm. It's not open source or freeware but anybody with an Intel, AMD, or TiVO system that uses a harddrive ought to have it. Note: I am in no way affiliated with Gibson Research, other than having used SpinRite since the days of manually interleaving MFM drives. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file system setup for new system - recommendations?
it was said: by: Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm confused, and I ask for your collective help. I successfully built a FreeBSD system using defaults. It works fine, so far. I will start over and rebuild the system now, carefully documenting each step. I will make some changes the second time. What I have right now is not mission critical, I'm just using it to learn. I've learned that I need another partition to which I can write tar backups and then ftp them to one of my windows machines on my LAN. So, I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for the rebuild of my machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE HD, so I don't have space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM, but it looks like I should plan to accommodate an increase to 1024GB in the future. I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able to ultimately run a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in the future. I have static IPs and permission to run a server on my internet access. I've tried to absorb input from the FreeBSD on-line handbook, from Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD, and from Michael Lucases' Absolute BSD. What I read either conflicts or I just can't comprehend. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to compare these sources? A Reference says keep the root section small, another says include /usr and /var in root, there's a discussion of the relative speed of the outside of a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not an agreement on the size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm confused. Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your collective comments. I'm persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/), 30GB for /backup tars, and the remainder for /home. The /tmp, /usr, and /var directories would be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing lists would be in home. I would be able to backup directories (or subdirectories) to tar files in the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when ftp'd to them for storage. When I rebuild my system, I don't want to do it again for a while. Should I make root bigger? Should I have /tmp, /usr, and /var as separate partitions as the default install did for me when I built the system I'm learning on at present? If you had it to do all over again, given my parameters, what would you do? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, CA USA Hello, First, I'll assume you intend to have a single IDE drive and that won't change for the life of this setup. Second, I'll accept your standard of what would _I_ do and not discuss the merits or philosophical differences of Messers. Lucas's and Lehey's recommendations. Finally, I'll assume you meant that you'll eventually have 1024MB (i.e. 1GB) of RAM, not 1024GB (i.e. 1TB). To begin, a 120GB drive is HUGE for a FBSD system relative to a Windows system, so you don't need to dole out space in a miserly fashion. However, you do need to be able to back up your data, so don't go nuts either. I tend to make my root partition 1GB. I have never needed this much space and could get by half that, but it's a nice round number, so why not? Because you will eventually have 1GB of RAM, I would allocate a /swap partition equal to twice the maximum RAM the motherboard can hold. Don't underestimate how long you will own the machine or the effort you will put into squeezing the last ounce of performance in the years to come. (Home machines tend to linger long after corporate machines have been surplussed.) And soon or later you'll be needing to post a core dump, so you may as well be ready for it. You say that you intend to host a few web pages, and ...ultimately run a MTA and mail lists. This means you need a goodly amount of space in /var for the mail _and_ the logs associated with the mail/web/firewall programs, say 20-25GB (~20 percent of total drive space). The few web pages will become several domains as time goes by, say 15-20GB (~15 percent of total drive space) for /home or /www, whatever you call it. The space needed for /usr isn't really substanial, say 10-12GB. The hard part is figuring how much space you need for, I would be able to backup directories (or subdirectories) to tar files in the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when ftp'd to them for storage. I have no idea what this entails, so say another 20-25GB for that. Thus, I have allocated between ~70-86GB. Leave the rest unallocated. Over time, one or more of these estimates will be too low. When that happens, you will be able to add space to the appropriate partition(s) and use growfs(8) to remedy the situation. This setup should last you a year or so. By then you'll want to optimize your setup, maybe have separate mail and web servers, whatever. It all depends on how much of your life FBSD takes over. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection
Re: file system setup for new system - recommendations?
it was said: snip Today I sent an order to Newegg for a second Seagate 120GB drive ($101.05 including tax shipping). snip Now to learn more about grofs(8); I wasn't aware of that capability at all. I was one of the first users of CP/M and begrudgingly went to DOS; I was a power user of DOS for years. snip Hello, If you are going to use multiple drives, look into vinum(8). It is can effectively do what growfs(8) does, but in a much more powerful way and gives you a plethora of additional features. HTH, Stheg P.S. I loved CP/M! MS-DOS is derived from it, a rather sordid story there __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: DHCP help
it was said: snip My problem is that my dhclient never finds any DHCP servers on the Comcast network. The default dhclient that came with the installation simply times out, the other one that I 'make installed' snip Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 4 files 1 /var: superblock summary recomputed snip Hello, I don't know if Comcast still requires users to register their mac address(es) in order to connect, but I know they used to. BTW, I infer from your dmesg output that you're not cleanly shutting down. Naughty, naughty! Remember, shutdown(8) is your friend. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does a working driver exist for the nForce2 MCP nic?
Hello, Out of general principle, I would like to get the onboard NIC working on an MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo. I have checked the archives and googled this issue. I found A LOT of discussion. To sum up, Bill Paul was trying to get nVidia to cooperate, but they were having none of it. According to http://www.onthenet.com.au/~q/nvnet/ a driver is available via ports/net/nvnet, but my fresh install of 5.2.1-Release doesn't have that port. I can pull it from the site, but before I needlessly mung my system, does anyone know if it works? If it was in ports before, why is it gone now? Thanks, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: make issues on freebsd
it was said: I tried exactly what you said. Make install clean But it tried to search for make-3.80.tar.bz2 and tried fetching over the net and did not find it. (I think because of our firewall). Now I have ftp'd the file in the /usr/ports/distfiles/ the above file and tried running it and found that it has dependencies on gettext. I copied gettext* there and tried installing gettext and found it has dependencies on some other stuff. How and where I can get everything from, so that I can get this running. I AM NOT JOKING. I don't know stuff about unix world as I am new. Appreciate your help friends!! Thanks a lot Mohammad Shaikh I have a program that can be compiled with no problems on SuSe Linux but when I try it on freebsd it gives plethora of errors. I have just copied the whole directory tree from SuSe Linux machine onto freebsd machine. Can Anyone PLEASE help as I have to submit the compiled stuff on freebsd Hello, Because you appear unable to pull ports in the normal manner (firewall issue?), you may have no choice but to download the four (five?) iso images of the ports collection and burn them to cd. Then when you do make install clean you can be sure have all the dependancies. Two questions: Why are you doing a FBSD project on Linux in the first place? Does Bill know you're consorting with the enemy? HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Dead hard drive
it was said: It was working fine and then one day: power down - power up - *poof* the harddrive is gone from the BIOS POST. I've tried exchanging IDE cables, putting it on a different controller, even a different PC, but it will not be detected. I can hear it spin up all right, so I know it's not its power unit. The disk had shown no signs of being about to bail (even though it is a couple of years old). There's nothing vital stored on it, although I would like to salvage what I can. Has anyone got any clue as to what may have happened, and how one can go about accessing the drive? Thanks in advance! -Henrik W Lund Hello, This is a classic symptom of an IDE drive's onboard controller going bad. You have two solutions. The first is to change out the controller with one from an identical drive and then run a surface scan using either the manufacturer's diagnostic tool or another tool capable of remapping the drive's bad sectors. This is because the new controller will have the other drive's map. Don't forget to redo the map on the other drive when you replace the controller. I did this two weeks ago for a client. The second solution involves a cleanroom and lots of money. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do I need to setup an IP Alias
We have a ADSL internet connection served through a Linksys router setup as the primary gateway on IP 92.168.1.1. Our ISP has allocated a non-filtered fixed IP address to us. I have set-up the FreeBSD box with a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 subnet 255.255.255.0, and configured the router to place the server in the DMZ, i.e. direct all incoming traffic to it. My question is should I setup the FBSD machine to recognize the fixed internet IP address allocated to us by the ISP as an Alias on the interface card? Everything seems to work fine even I don't do this. Hello, Did they allocate more than one? I mean, one to be the oif of the Linksys and another one that you can assign as an alias on the FBSD box? If so, you _can_. But that should only be neccesary if you need to access the box from the internal network via the external network. On the other hand, you don't even need to put the server in the DMZ. The Linksys should let you do port forwarding for just the port(s) you actually need exposed. The more layers between your server and the Internet, the better. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
it was said: I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else. These are spams sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by .qmail-default. What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily instead of monthly, though. Collecting them has become a significant drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month and a half of collection. Hello, What I would do is avoid the problem in the first place by not having a .qmail-default. I don't know how important being sure you have no false positive spam rejections to incorrect/misspelled addresses is to you, but is it worth accepting hundreds of thousands of spams and then looking through them to find the very few that may be legitimate? I think you would be better off creating variations in the users' .qmail file, such as paul.hoadley@, phoadley@, [EMAIL PROTECTED] That could been done via a script that gets called when you create a user, so the only extra work would be to write script the first time and plugging it in. (Of course, you would have to run it against your existing users, too.) As I said, I don't know what your requirements are, just my 2% of the applicable currency's base unit. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
it was said: The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address. I'm getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every day. Hello, Ahh! That is much clearer! You may want to look into ucspi-tcp in sysutils/ports. Its tcpserver, tcprules, and rblsmtpd sub-programs do a fairly good job of rejecting connections from undesirable smtp servers - from the individual address all the way to netblock level. See http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html for details. Other possible options a something like spamassassin, route them to /dev/null, etc. Another 2%, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The switch to X.org
it was said:
Hello,
I don't personally have an answer, but from the archives comes this one
from Matthew Seaman:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:45:08PM -0400, Jim Trigg wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:22:32PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:17:56 -0400
Jim Trigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAICT, this won't really do anything -- there does not appear to
be a real way to tell the ports system that you want X ports to
depend on xorg instead of xfree. Every X port appears to have xfree
hardcoded.
Not sure, I think some do, but everything I have hear does not seem
to have that problem.
OK, so how do you get cvsup to use xorg? As best I can tell, it will
depend on either XFree86 (XFree86 v. 3) or
XFree86-4-libraries(XFree86 v. 4), with no option to depend on
xorg-libraries.
Both the XFree86-4-libraries and xorg-libraries provide the
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 shared library (amongst others). It's the
same ABI independent of which port the shlib comes from.
The short answer is just install the x11/xorg-libraries port before
you install cvsup.
In fact, cvsup works perfectly well even if you replace the XFree86
libs with the xorg ones underneath a previously installed copy of
cvsup. Doesn't even need a recompile. The same goes for most X based
software.
Here's how it works: when the Makefile in the cvsup port says
USE_XLIB that gets transformed into a LIB_DEPENDS line in
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk:
LIB_DEPENDS+= X11.6:${PORTSDIR}/x11/XFree86-4-libraries
(assuming you've not got XFREE86_VERSION == 3).
That LIB_DEPENDS line is in two parts separated by a colon. The first
bit:
X11.6
means that the port needs to link against libX11.so.6, and it checks
to see if a suitable shlib is installed and accessible by grep'ing in
the output of ldconfig:
% ldconfig -r | fgrep X11.6
116:-lX11.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
Since last night on my system that's from:
% pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 was installed by package
xorg-libraries-6.7.0
If make(1) can find a suitable shlib, everything is happy and the
compile continues -- all make looks for is the presence of the
library. It doesn't check what (if any) port the library is part of.
Only if it can't find the correct shlib does the right hand side of
that LIB_DEPENDS line get considered:
${PORTSDIR}/x11/XFree86-4-libraries
That's simply a suggestion of a suitable port that will provide the
required shlib, and fulfil the dependency. But there are several such
ports in the tree, any of which could be used. Often in such
situations there will be some sort of 'WANT_FOO' or 'WITH_FOO_VER'
make variable to select which one gets used. Unfortunately, no such
mechanism for saying I want X.Org ports in preference to XFree86
ones has yet been committed.
One annoyance due to the lake of make(1) infrastructure is that the
suggested port will be listed in the package dependencies of the
installed port, rather than the actual port that provided the shlib
you used to build against. That, however, is just an administrative
detail which you can fix up with pkgdb(1), and has no real bearing on
the effectiveness of the software.
Cheers,
Matthew
###
And an answer from Matthew to a follow-up question from Axel S. Gruner:
###
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 12:46:37PM +0200, Axel S. Gruner wrote:
i have written a howto for people willing to switch from XFree86 to
xorg. Ok, at this time it is only available in german:
http://www.bsdforen.de/showthread.php?p=39983#post39983
But i also have some questions about switching to xorg.
(1) Will xorg be the default X in future FreeBSD Releases?
Probably. It seems that most of the Linux distros have switched or
are switching to it, and the Unix vendors like Sun always were behind
X.Org anyway.
There is has been a discussion on the x11 and docs mailing lists
covering all of the whys and wherefores. A good place to start is
here:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200406051411.04259.linimon
(2) I have xorg running, without a problem, but if i install a new
application with a XFree86 dependency i have to run pkgdb -F to fix
the dependency to xorg stuff (and imake-6).
If i change /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and the entries about XFree86
and
imake-4 to xorg and imake-6, the change will not be permanent (cvsup
will overwrite the change):
[...]
LIB_DEPENDS+= X11.6:${PORTSDIR}/x11/xorg-libraries
[...]
.if defined(USE_IMAKE)
BUILD_DEPENDS+= ${X11BASE}/lib/X11/config/date.def:
${PORTSDIR}/devel/imake-6
RUN_DEPENDS+= mkhtmlindex:${PORTSDIR}/devel/imake-6
[...]
So, is there another way to fix that permanently or a work-around?
Eventually something like what you propose
Re: Can't detect COM ports...
it was said: I have got a problem with my HS56 PCTel modem because I can not enable my serial ports. The first two ports are automatically enabled, but the third and the fourth does not get enabled. I read the handbook and tried to do it myself, but without success. I have connected the modem to the COM3 port(sio2). When I take the output of dmesg command I get the following output Hello, Do you actually have four serial ports? Most computers come with two or less. Is the modem internal or external? If it is internal, it is almost certainly a winmodem, meaning it needs to do signal processing through calls to the Windows OS, and most probably won't work under FBSD. If it is external, what happens if you connect to one of the ports that are detected? Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Security hole in PuTTY (Windows ssh client)
Hello, Sorry for the completely OT post, but I saw two mentions of PuTTY in one day on the list and assume it must be a popular piece of Windows software. The SANS Institute @Risk newsletter dated 8AUG04 contains the following item regarding PuTTY: 04.31.4 CVE: Not Available Platform: Third Party Windows Apps Title: PuTTY Remote Buffer Overflow Description: PuTTY is a free Telnet and SSH client. It has been reported that PuTTY is subject to a pre-authentication buffer overflow that can allow malicious servers to execute code on a client machine as it attempts to negotiate connection. PuTTY 0.54 and previous versions are vulnerable. Ref: http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=417idxseccion=10 Again, sorry for the OT post, but it seems (at least) very marginally relevant to some. We now return you regularly scheduled program of FBSD Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Security hole in PuTTY (Windows ssh client)
it was said: I think what you are saying is that if you use PuTTY as a client application that you should be concerned about what server you connect to? From what you are saying, I suspect that if the only use is to connect to your own (FreeBSD) server, you are probably ok? Jay O'Brien Hello, To quote from the link: In SSH2, an attacker impersonating a trusted host can launch an attack before the client has the ability to determine the difference between the trusted and fake host. This attack is performed before host key verification. Presuming one were connecting over private network IP space by IP address only, then I believe you are correct. I can imagine scenarios in which if one were to connect over the Internet or even into a different network segment using DNS that one would be at risk. The vendor has a patched the hole and released 0.55, recommending all users update. If I were using this software, I would take their advice. Note: Apparently, a Unix version exists, and the source code is available under the MIT Licence. So I guess my post was completely OT. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filesystem full on install
it was written: However, when it starts to install, it fails saying the filesystem is full. This can't be. It's a 40Gb drive. I started by overwriting my hd using a utility called boot and nuke. Then I allocated the whole thing to freebsd and made that partition bootable. Then in disklabel, I hit a to do a default setup. I've tried several different things in disklabel and I wipe my disk clean between each try and nothing seems to work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Hello, This seems to be the nub of your problem. The message saying the filesystem is full means the partition is full, not the harddrive. Make sure the drive's geometry and that reported in disklabel agree. I think you should start over and use the instructions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html as a guide, particularly section 2.5.5. As to the problem with the router and intermittent failures to connect, that sounds like TCP/IP problem. The fact it seemingly goes away is very odd. Make sure you're not using an IP address already assigned to some other interface (and may as well that your subnet mask, hostname, and DNS address are correct, too). Double check that you're using a supported NIC. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
it wad said: Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Hello, After a bit of googling, I'd say the choices are either true three-button _or_ cordless. Then there's the trackball route. I hate them, but my wife loves them. At home, I use a left-handed three-button serial testicle mouse from Logitech. At work (a Windows-only house) I use a left-handed true three-button with wheel and rocker switch USB optical mouse from Contour Design. I can live without the wheel, but I love my rocker switch because it effectively adds two buttons. So if being corded is less of a problem than the button/wheel issue, I would suggest checking out http://www.contourdesign.com/perfit-new.htm. The mouse is even available in different sizes. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg or XFree86?
it was said: Does anyone know is the nvidia drivers work with Xorg? Hello, Yes it does. Check this lists archives for all you need to know as this topic has come up frequently over the last 6-8 weeks. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual Homing Networks with DSL and Cable
it was said:
Lou Katz wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 01:00:02AM -0500, Eric Crist wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Lucas Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:29 AM
To: 'Eric Crist'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Dual Homing Networks with DSL and Cable
You will have difficulty with this setup. Most large
providers require that you register your multihomed capacity
on a list. Otherwise traffic won't know to come in on a
particular interface or that it can go either way. I must
admit I'm going from memory here. I used to work at an ISP
about 5 years ago. At that time we went from a T3 with UUNET
to a multihomed setup with verio and uunet. It was rather
odd actually.. 3 t1s connected us to our modem banks at the
telco and then we had an ethernet connection to verio's pipe,
plus the T3 in our main office. Anyway, verio required us to
get on this list. They told us that most large ISPs use it
for routing. I suspect you will need static ips with the
cable provider to pull it off as well.
Actually, I was under the assumption that the multi-homed system
would
process outgoing traffic, and the incoming would just return on the
appropriate IP. In this scenario, there's no need to register hosts.
Some networks will not pass outbound traffic that has a source address
NOT in the correct net. I have more than one inbound net, and have
found that, for a small number of BSD machines, putting up IPFW and
using the 'fwd' rules works.
For the case of three networks all with static IP addresses, my
network
card is assigned three IP addresses in ifconfig which results in lines
in rc.firewall (for example):
net1ip=a.b.c.123
net2ip=e.f.g.74
net3ip=h.i.j.202
Each of the networks has a different gateway with rc.firewall entries:
net1gw=a.b.c.1
net2gw=e.f.g.1
net3gw=h.i.j.1
Packets coming in addressed to netX1ip are replied to from that IP
address, so the following rules direct them to the correct default
routes:
${fwcmd} add fwd all from ${net1ip} to ${net1ip}
${fwcmd} add fwd all from ${net2ip} to ${net23p}
${fwcmd} add fwd all from ${net3ip} to ${net3ip}
Works fine for me. Haven't done this for NAT'd IP addresses, though
Hello,
I believe that this setup works for redundancy but does not aggregate
bandwidth. You need some sort of muxing mechanism, nee? What I mean is,
if each link is 1.5 Mbps, you could have three simultaneous users each
getting 1.5 Mbps, but if you had only one user, he/she would still get
only 1.5, not 4.5 Mbps. I think that what Mr Crist was asking is how to
get the 4.5 Mbps.
I have never done this in FreeBSD, but I recall some work to do this
very thing being done in altq (on OpenBSD) and perhaps dummynet has
this capability.
What Mr Holt is talking about is getting an ASN from ARIN. This is for
inbound redundancy on a multi-homed network. Should one of your links
go down, its IP space would still be reachable via your other link(s).
This is not applicable to Mr Crist's situation, if I understand what he
is trying to accomplish.
HTH,
Stheg
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Re: XFree86 Question
it was said: Sorry if this is not quite the place for this question but I'm at my wits ends here. I need viable Horizontal sync ranges and vertical refresh rates for my compaq presario laptop 1200-XL118 (13 HPA screen, Trident Cyberblade i7 video card)and I have not been able to find them anywhere. They are not in the online product manuals and the compaq support people have given me ranges that don't work after telling me the info doesn't exist. I have been guessing away and getting close. Is there some sort of autodetect utility? Is my hardware not supported? Thanks ahead of time, Oliver Gould Hello, If you buy on ebay and hurry, this might have the information you need. Of course, you could email the seller and ask http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6701264713 HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
it was said: Ok, just to be certain about this. I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup here is my stable-supfile *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ Am I ready to roll? Hello, If you mean are you ready to update your base system to 4-STABLE, then yes, you're ready to roll. If you mean are you ready to update your entire system to the latest production release, then, no, you're not ready to roll. What are you trying to accomplish? Regards, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no user interface
it was said: I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a graphical interface. Instead it stays in a dos-like interface with commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in the correct direction james heck Hello, On the off chance you're not trolling, Welcome to FreeBSD! That dos-like interface _IS_ the user interface. The graphical interface you incomprehensibly seem to have expected is the X window system. That is an add-on that runs on top of FreeBSD (much like MS Windows runs on top of MS-DOS). You will most likely want to run something along the lines of KDE or Gnome. Those are desktop environments somewhat similar to what you're used to. However, if you think that you will be using wizards and clicking thru dialogs, you are in for quite a surprise because you're not in Redmond any more. Remember, *nix Is user friendly; it's just particular about who its friends are. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Regards, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
it was said: BTW! After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following steps? Go to /usr/src enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname then: make kernel reboot go to /usr/src and type: make installworld And what is a good kernel name? Maybe in this case, kernel.STABLE ? Hello, Aaahhh...no. You are leaving out steps. To clarify, in /usr/src, do this: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER (your edited conf file) make installkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER reboot into single user mode mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster reboot See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html (URL may have wrapped) just to be sure you haven't forgotten anything. A couple of notes: The supfile you are using does NOT update your ports. Speaking of which, using a refuse file is not recommended because mind a blank here, you get an error about something. The kernel name doesn't really matter if you do not swap kernels between machines and use different names (e.g. KERN1, KERN2) so you know which one you're running. Finally, I like to use script(1) to write a file to /var when I do builds so I can go back and actually read the WARNING: messages that whiz by and scare the bejesus out of me at 4:00 AM. __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tracking data transfer?
it was said: Well what I was looking for is, some utility which reports the total datatransfer through a particular IP associated with one of the NICs of my box on a monthly basis. Could anyone help? snip On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:35:52 -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: Check trafshow. You can also use tcpdump for more detiled info or mrtg for summary info :) Hello, Someone has helped: Mr Kinkade. Or do you mean that you either do not want to or cannot use mrtg, so you need a different solution? Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development project in Africa
it was said: I am an international volunteer at the Institute for International Cooperation and Development (IICD - www.iicd-volunteer.org ). I am interested in starting a project in sub-Saharan Africa teaching people about Free and Open Source Software. I would also like to teach people how to use a linux system. I am testing several distributions for ease of use in a learning environment and would like to test FreeBSD. I would like to know how I might be able to have a free copy of the latest stable version of FreeBSD shipped to me or how I could get a desktop or laptop computer preinstalled with FreeBSD donated to me. Please contact me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you have any questions or would like more information on this project feel free to ask. Thank you, Jason Keeney Hello, You don't need to have any discs shipped to you. FreeBSD is available for free from a number of sites around the world. You can find a list of servers at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html (URL may have wrapped) You don't say where in Africa you are, but one of the sites on the above list is in South Africa. You really need to d/l just the iso of disc 1 if you want the base system and ports skeleton. Of course, you could d/l just the floppy images and do an ftp install to minimize your online time even more. What exactly is the project you're working on and in which country? Perhaps we can be of service we if had more information. Regards, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development project in Africa
please keep the list in the loop it was said: Because my download speeds are slow and I am trying to obtain several distributions of linux or BSD, downloading ISO images isn't a feasible option. I will be doing development work in Angola. I haven't been assigned a position within the country yet, but I'll probably be working at a teacher training college. The projects that IICD trains Development Instructors for are listed on the Humana People to People website (www.humana.org). There are several DNS schools within Angola, and I'll probably be in Huambo, Cabinda, or Luanda. They already have some courses at these schools to teach the students about computers, but I'm trying to extend the scope to cover open source alternatives. Hello, I admire your efforts to help educate future teachers, especially in Africa. I was there (Tanzania) for awhile myself some years ago. The last thing anyone on that continent needs to do is help finance Gates's next manuscript purchase. If sending you a copy of my favorite OS will assist you, count me in. Please send me your postal address (off list), and I will send you all the CDs for 5.2.1-Release including the ports collection. By the time you get to Angola, 5.3-Stable will be out, so I don't see the point in sending you 4.10 (current production release). Realize that bug fixes, updates, etc. happen almost daily to both the OS and the ports, so when you do your install, you will need to update everything via cvsup. Because cvsup downloads what are essentially diff files and does its updates with those, the bandwidth consumed is significantly reduced from downloading the iso files. Regards, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 USB + FreeBSD 5.2.1 + PPPoE -- a nightmare!
it was said: So I enabled papchap, and expecting an established connection to the net.. this is what I get: Aug 28 19:54:51 kittenizer ppp[627]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Too many LCP REQs sent - abandoning negotiation Hello, Because you didn't include configs, logs, etc., I'm going to guess that the error is caused by, ...I enabled papchap Generally, one uses a single authentication protocol; but as I said, under the circumstances I can only guess. HTH, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com Etherlink III ISA support [was Question]
it was said: the version of FreeBsd that i've tried does not support the network card i have on the computer which is a 3Com Etherlink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) in PnP mode i would like to know which versions of FreeBsd supports this network card. Hello, I used that card in 2.2.2. (My first FBSD install!) As I remember, I had to run a 3Com DOS utility to set the physical parameters manually. Then I configured FreeBSD to use those settings. I would think later versions would support that card, as well. You probably just need to do what I did. If you don't have the 3Com disk, you can download what you need from their site. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question on ATM w/ FreeBSD
it was said: Can I plug in an ATM DS3 into something like a Cisco Lightstream LS1010 with a DS3 card, then plug a PC running FreeBSD and Quagga, with a Marconi Forerunner HE155 using the fatm() driver, into a OC3 card on the LS1010, then define a VC, switch it through the switch, and run data over that? However I have not dealt yet with ATM switches, is there anything inherently different about ATM on a lan adapter like the HE155, and ATM on a DS3? Hello, The HE155 uses the hatm(4) driver. From the man page: The hatm device driver supports the FORE (now Marconi) HE155 and HE622 ATM interface cards. The driver interfaces with the natm(4) framework, netgraph(4) and the HARP ATM stack. It provides only PVC services. Signalling, ATMARP, ILMI and other higher layer protocols are implemented using netgraph(4) or HARP. So the remaing question is can the LS1010 do what you want. IIRC, the LS1010 is very similar to the Catalyst 8500 series, Unfortunately, I am more familiar with the latter than the former, so I cannot answer definitively. I know it has support for PVCs, asymmetric circuits, and bridging to a LAN, so I would be surprised if it couldn't (but not very surprised, you know how Cisco can be some times ;-)). To answer your last question about inherent differences in ATM, no. But ATM is a protocol suite consisting of three layers: physical, ATM, and AAL. Just be sure you use the same AAL config on each end. Because the telco dictates their end, just match it and you're set. HTH, Stheg HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com Etherlink III ISA support [was Question]
it was said: by: A W Sorry im a total Newb to this Freebsd thingy. But if i were to do wat u told me to do and get Version 2.2.2 of FreeBsd, Which files do i need to start the installation? by: stheg olloydson I used that card in 2.2.2. (My first FBSD install!) As I remember, I had to run a 3Com DOS utility to set the physical parameters manually. Then I configured FreeBSD to use those settings. I would think later versions would support that card, as well. You probably just need to do what I did. If you don't have the 3Com disk, you can download what you need from their site. Hello, Please keep the list in the loop. Hold on there! I didn't say to run 2.2.2. It was nice back in the day, but if you were to run it now, the Huns would sack your village. What I meant to communicate is you should use the 3Com software to configure the NIC manually and then enter that configuration - if needed - when setting up your interface. HTH (by being more clear), Stheg P.S. Another poster asked why do you think your NIC doesn't work. That is a good question. What output do you get from ifconfig -a ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Nachos - simulated OS
it was said: I suppose i am feeling lazy to compile gas, binutils, gcc (which would make the 3d instance) from source to be cross-compile-able due to lack of a port. Speaking of which ... Nachos has been reported to be ported to FreeBSD, btw. (Hint, Hint.) Hello, Did you read the entire page that said a FBSD port existed? Look more closely: Existing ports: MIPS, Sparc (sunos and solaris), Alpha, linux, netbsd and freebsd, RS/6000, 68000 Mac (unsupported), and HP. 1 Can NACHOS run on VAX6420/Ultrix? - Haven't tried it. It should run over any version of Ultrix, but not definitely sure yet. 2 Can NACHOS run on NexT? --- Haven't tried it. Haven't heard of any report of it. Run on NexT? What? 2 Can NACHOS run on Windows? -- No. Not at this time. We're planning to port but it turned out harder than it appeared; now that Win95 (finally, a real OS from Microsoft!) is out, maybe we'll try it again. [N]ow that Win95...is out? How old is this information? From the bug list: Thu, 12 Oct 95 From the introduction: March 1, 1994 From the roadmap: February 3, 1997 The roadmap date is the latest one I could find, and that is on a linked site. The latest on the site itself is Spring 1996. Hint, hint, Stheg 2 Can NACHOS run on Windows? -- No. Not at this time. We're planning to port but it turned out harder than it appeared; now that Win95 (finally, a real OS from Microsoft!) is out, maybe we'll try it again. __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setup firewall/router/proxy
it was said: Hi, What are the best firewall - routing and proxy packages for FreeBSD ? Hello, Firewall: pf (/usr/ports/security/pf) Routing: routed (man 8 routed) Proxy: squid (/usr/ports/www/squid) just my 2% of your preferred currency's base unit, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Max # of Files in a Directory?
it was said: ... I started seeing all kinds of errors when trying to copy more than 16383 messages into one of my folders there. I'm retrieving mail from a pop3 server using Outlook then copying them into my imap folder, also using Outlook. Hello, 16383 was a limit in OL before version 8.03 (2000). Go to the MS knowledge base and search on Outlook using 16383 as the keyword. You will find a number of articles related to this issue. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errata Branch
it was said: I'm looking for some information on the Errata Branch for 4.10. I just re-installed my FreeBSD system and am now running 4.10-RELEASE. I want to make sure that I am running with the most-up-to-date security patches applied. I would like to know the steps necessary for appling the changes in RELENG_4_10. Also how can I tell if the security patchs and code fixes have been applied. My stable-subfile: *default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all Hello, Your supfile is correct for what you want to do. If you read the faq at www.cvsup.org/faq.html (#11), however, you will see that on the _first_ cvsup, a slightly different method is recommended to ensure your checkouts file is correct. In your particular case, in place of tag=RELENG_4_10, you should have tag=RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_4_10. Then, when that finishes, change the tag back to tag=RELENG_4_10 and delete the list= portion of the line. Then run cvsup again. Remember, you should do this only on the _first_ cvsup; all subsequent times, ignore this step. As for checking that you properly updated, after building and installing world and kernel, run uname -a. You should see 4.10-RELEASE-p2. If you do, the src patches are installed. (The p2 shows your patch level. Right now, for 4.10, it is p2.) Speaking of src patches, you have only src-all in your supfile. This means your ports, docs, and cvsroot will _not_ be updated. If you intend that, fine, just making sure you know. If not, add ports-all, docs-all, and cvsroot=all to your file. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make.conf optimzations [was ports vs source]
it was said by Vulpes Velox: The ability to squeze the absolute max out using /etc/make.conf is what I love about ports. CPUTYPE?=athlon-xp CFLAGS= -O -m3dnow -msse -mmmx -pipe CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -m3dnow -msse -mmmx Hello, This post raises a couple of questions I have concerning optimzation. I just setup 5.2.1p9 on an athlon-xp box. I, too, used the memoize options but I got this when doing a make buildworld: cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option -fmemoize-lookups cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option -fsave-memoized *** Error code 1 I checked the gcc 3.3.3 manual for info (because they worked under 3.2.2) and couldn't find any mention of them. Googling took me to numerous sites that had the same gcc manpage (unknown version) that said: -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized Use heuristics to compile faster. These heuristics are not enabled by default, since they are only effective for certain input files. Other input files compile more slowly. The gcc-1750 support site goes even further and adds: The code that implements these flags has rotted; you should probably avoid using them. OK, that's fine. Does that mean, in the versions of gcc in 5.x, these options are deprecated? Also, concerning the -mmmx, -m3dnow, and -msse, I read somewhere (bsdforum.org?) that cputype?=athlon-xp implies those three options, but I couldn't find a mention of it in the gcc 3.3.3 manual (doesn't mean it's not there). Is this true, or should they be explicit as in Mr Velox's post? Finally, what optimzations are people using on their production 5.2.1 boxen? -mfpmath=sse looks interesting, but is it safe? The manual says: The resulting code should be considerably faster in the majority of cases and avoid the numerical instability problems of 387 code, but may break some existing code that expects temporaries to be 80bit. This is the default choice for the x86-64 compiler. Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errata Branch
It was said: Just so I have this correct: After I install 4.10-RELEASE, before I complete the first_cvsup my config file should look as follows: *default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_4_10 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all After I have completed the cvsup, I should change the config file to: *default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all Hello, Please keep the list in the loop. Someone else may have a more timely and/or better response. Yes, you are correct. According to cvsup's author, doing that ensures the checkouts file updates properly. He explains why the procedure is necessary in the faq. I don't remember the details, likewise with the cvsroot=all thing. I just remember he said it was good idea. HTH, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
questions about gcc options
Hello, I decided to repost this with a less ambiguous subject. I have a few questions concerning optimization. I just setup 5.2.1p9 on an athlon-xp box. I used -fmemoize-lookups and -fsave-memoized options but I got this when doing a make buildworld: cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option -fmemoize-lookups cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option -fsave-memoized *** Error code 1 I checked the gcc 3.3.3 manual for info (because they worked under 3.2.2) and couldn't find any mention of them. Googling took me to numerous sites that had the same gcc manpage (unknown version) that said: -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized Use heuristics to compile faster. These heuristics are not enabled by default, since they are only effective for certain input files. Other input files compile more slowly. The gcc-1750 support site goes even further and adds: The code that implements these flags has rotted; you should probably avoid using them. OK, that's fine. Does that mean beginning with versions of gcc 3.2.2 (at least) these options are deprecated? I don't find anything about this in UPDATING, and they still appear in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf Also, concerning the -mmmx, -m3dnow, and -msse options, I read somewhere (bsdforum.org?) that cputype?=athlon-xp implies those three options, but I couldn't find a mention of it in the gcc 3.3.3 manual (doesn't mean it's not there). Is this true, or should they be explicit? Finally, what optimizations are people using on their production 5.2.1 boxen? -mfpmath=sse looks interesting, but is it safe? The manual says: The resulting code should be considerably faster in the majority of cases and avoid the numerical instability problems of 387 code, but may break some existing code that expects temporaries to be 80bit. This is the default choice for the x86-64 compiler. Not being a c/c++ person, I appreciate any help in the matter. Regards, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Jack Installation
it was said: My new house is currently being built, and I am wondering if I should install an ISDN jack now so that the SBC people don't have to do it once the walls are up and I actually want an ISDN connection. What do the people who install it have to do to get is upstairs when they install it, is it difficult? How is an ISDN line added, and can I do it myself? Thanks. Hello, ISDN isn't DSL. You can't run it on the same wire your phone service and use filters to allow their simultaneous use. But installing it yourself is very easy. All you need is a Cat3 (standard telco) cable run from the NID (network interface device - where the phone lines come in the house) to where ever you want the ISDN service. The telco hooks the wires (single pair) together at the NID, tells you which colors to use at the receptacle, and you just saved yourself US$100-$300. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd goes linux and gets a distro
Hello, I haven't seen this mentioned and thought it might be of interest to the community. Distrowatch.com mentions a company, Trianceware, that is offering what appears to be a FBSD/KDE bundle they named TrianceOS. Their main aim looks to be making a *nix desktop OS for the typical Windows user, i.e. click-driven not cli-driven. Making it a less quixotic task than it may seem, they intend to charge for the system once it is out of beta. I have not yet succeeded in getting an iso (1.0 beta), so I do not know how customized anything is. Judging by the site's very sketchy content, I would say not very. The most interesting thing (imo) is they say that they are going to take on the beast that is sysinstall and GUI-ize it. Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: an Iranian forum power of BSD
it was said: Dears,I'm discussing on power of BSD family.I told you bind(),accept() socket() is own of BSD.But they saying me GNU write it.write or Rewrite? Yours,Mohsen You do not specify which bind(), accept(), and socket() you are talking about, so I will assume you mean the system calls. They first appeared in 4.2BSD, which was released in August 1983. (This is NOT the same thing as FreeBSD 4.2.) This was the first unix to have TCP/IP built in. The following month, September 1983, Richard Stallman started the GNU project. By the way, FreeBSD 1.0 was released in December 1993. Linux 1.0 was released in March 1994; but the first version of Linux, 0.01, was released in August 1991. HTH, stheg __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Logo
it was said by stanb: YUK! -- U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror - New York Times 9/3/1967 Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more. shudders, stheg __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Http Trace.
Hey guys, I am running 4.10 and I am wondering if this effect me. http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/867593 Payne' Impossible to say, seeing that the issue has nothing to do with which OS one runs. Try the mailing lists of the software reported two years ago as being vulnerable. stheg __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD ftpd Windows compatibility
it was said by Wojciech Puchar: or to be exact - Windows incompatibility with standards FreeBSD server. the problem: Windows clients (like total commander) can't fetch or delete files with spaces in name - while it can create such file. are there any solutions? As this is a FreeBSD list, you may not get useful answers to questions about how to use various third-party Windows applications. Maybe asking the companies that sold you the broken software is a better idea. Of course, you could just not put spaces in the file names or use clients that do not have this problem HTH, stheg __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please explain.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com Subject: Please explain. 2 Major Issues: - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD that has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Please clarify this. Hello, Please clarify your post. You make many claims without any offering any examples. You claim, FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue. What exactly is the issue? Give an example, please. You claim, There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. To what crap in the FreeBSD kernel are you referring? Please post an example of the horrible threading support and how it should be done. How did you arrive at the time span of 6 years? Who is this They that has just made 'work-arounds' not real fixing? Who are these many freebsd developers to whom you refer? Finally, you claim, The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Holding it back from what? Please explain the basis for your assertions so that the community may better answer them. Regards, Stheg BTW: Considering you're running a Windows-based OS, not a BSD-based one, why do you even care? ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please explain.
Plesae, excuse the messiness of the reply to a poster using MS's broken formatting. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: processor affinity design issue.. i.e.. processes stay on the cpu they are spawned on..which is a big problem for mysql which explains why it performs better on other systems. Furthermore, the SMP issue is a common problem among many FreeBSD developers whom have told me the same, there is alot of this information all over the internet. FreeBSD is unable to perform good on multiple CPUs, the fixes are just work arounds. Unless if the freebsd community has just started to fix the multithreading issue, it's a huge problem. Darwin does not have this problem whatsoever. Why do I care? This is a silly question. I have 2 windows PCs here, I have 9 other workstations that all run unix. I am a server manager and I do consulting work for freebsd/linux. Windows came free so why not? I don't do business on it. I've been a really huge FreeBSD supporter.. but I am really concerned about this issue which has been an issue for so long. thanks, tim h. - Original Message - From: stheg olloydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Please explain. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com Subject: Please explain. 2 Major Issues: - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD that has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Please clarify this. Hello, Please clarify your post. You make many claims without any offering any examples. You claim, FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue. What exactly is the issue? Give an example, please. You claim, There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. To what crap in the FreeBSD kernel are you referring? Please post an example of the horrible threading support and how it should be done. How did you arrive at the time span of 6 years? Who is this They that has just made 'work-arounds' not real fixing? Who are these many freebsd developers to whom you refer? Finally, you claim, The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Holding it back from what? Please explain the basis for your assertions so that the community may better answer them. Regards, Stheg BTW: Considering you're running a Windows-based OS, not a BSD-based one, why do you even care? Hello, Because you failed to offer any proof of your assertions other than repeating them, albeit with the addition of the vague statement that there is alot [sic] of this information all over the internet [sic] (which, if were true, begs the questions why are you asking here then), I cannot put any stock in your claims. My apologies to the community for rising to the troll. Yours truly, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question
It was said: Hi, I Bought from you FreeBSD 4.10 v, my main concern after I installed it in my laptop I have trouble defining my network wireless card Linksys wireless -B and the network, How can I do that?. Also Do I need the device wi0?, and how can I find it? Sincerely, Ramez. Hello, Welcome to FreeBSD! I don't have a solution for you, but I can tell you where to find it. Check the Handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html (URL may have wrapped). Also, you can check the list archives through http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists (URL may have wrapped). Also, check google. FreeBSD and Linksys are pretty common, so your question may be answered on a website. If you still can't find the information you need, repost to the list on Monday. The list is fairly quiet on the weekends, so you will have a much better chance of getting a more informative answer than mine. As you are new to FreeBSD, you ought to read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html (URL may have wrapped). It explains how to most easily get the greatest amount of help from the list. HTH, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Device polling performance
it was said by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jamie Cohen: The EVIDENCE is to the contrary, since it seems that a 2.4Ghz system will be saturated when bridging ~250Kpps with device-polling enabled, based on polling stats and userland benchmarking, even though the system claims to be 100% idle. Interestingly, its about the same with interrupt enabled. The POINT is that since there is no way to measure the performance, you've got a bunch of guys who think they've figured something out touting device-polling without having a clue what the performance advantages (or consequences) are, so it might as well be black magic, or snake oil, since you are as blind as a bat in your assessments. Hello, Please post your polling stats and userland benchmarking results. I would be very interested seeing them as I was thinking of moving to NICs that would benefit from polling. However, because you have EVIDENCE ... to the contrary, I may hold off. On the other hand, you do go on to say there is no way to measure the performance and you are as blind as a bat in your assessments, so also please post your test methodology. I need to make my decision on reliable, repeatable facts. Also, when you post, would you please wrap your lines to a shorter length? Not everyone on the list uses AOL Reader, like you. Regards, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
