Re: G4 won't finish booting
On 6 Mar 2018, at 08:26, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: > > > Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:28:25 UTC+1 schreef Diane: > I have a 2003 G4 1.42DP (FW800) > With the exception of a couple of hard drive replacements and a power supply > back in 2011, it's been bomb proof. > The other day though, it started to shutdown on boot (it had been running for > weeks prior to this). I googled and found many references to this but mostly > with a display with a proximity sensor, which I do not have. > I pulled it out of it's cubby and will clean it out, but I'd also like to > replace the battery while it's open. > What's the best place to buy them these days? I used to get them at Radio > Shack but they are no longer around. > Worse case I have a couple of older machines that I suppose I can fire up and > put my drive in to get my data off, but ideally I'd like to get this going > again. > Any thoughts? It just spins on the grey screen for a couple of minutes and > then shuts down. I usually screen share into it so I'm not sure if it was > doing something else prior. It did sound like it booted fully the fist time. > Earlier this week I had it up and running for awhile but it wasn't connected > to the network so that's when I shut it down and this happened. > > Thanks > Diane > > Hi Diane, Have you tried booting from the install DVD and running disk first aid? It will assess the disk and you may repair if needed, and repair permissions. Have Fun Glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blinking
On Monday, October 9, 2017, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Bruce Johnsonwrote: > On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Jörg wrote: > > BTW which would be your favorite (most reliable) G5? I would like to get one > eventually. Could I keep using my HDs, cards and RAM? > Rather than going to the G5 you could consider an old Intel Mac that can run 10.6. When my G5 failed I found a 20 in. 2009 iMac that would run my Adobe CS apps and likely most other software used with 10.4.11. You can add your MDD drives with external FireWire enclosure(s). The iMac can handle more RAM than an MDD and I think a second monitor. And you get the benefit of a more modern web browser if you need it. I will admit the dual 2.5 GHz LCS G5 that replaced my MDD dual 1.25 GHz was a step up in speed until its power supply failed. The G5 PS is difficult and expensive to replace. I still use a very old G4 Sawtooth with a very fast dual 1.25 GHz upgrade and 2 GB RAM for many chores and it is only a little slower than my old MDD but its days are numbered. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Fix or Replace 1GHz G4
From: nick.rhind <nick.rh...@umassmed.edu> To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:41 PM Subject: Fix or Replace 1GHz G4 I have a 1GHz mirrored-door G4 (M8689) that I need to run a piece of legacy lab equipment. It boots up fine and seems to run well, but after several minutes the monitor turns off and, a few moments later, the computer shuts down. For what it is worth, the fan has been running constantly for the past few months. If anyone has any advice about how to repair the poor old thing, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, suggestions for a good source for a replacement would be useful. My online searches have not but fruitful. -It could be a power supply or maybe just an overheating problem. Years ago when I got a used MDD it had a huge build up of dust bunnies the size of rodent mice underneath the Darth Vader grill at the bottom of the tower. I blew them out with a commercial air compressor. They can be removed manually if you have the patience. So, check for dust everywhere. If that does not work, depending on your software requirements older Intel Mac's can run OS 10.5. When my G5 died I went to an older G4 and an Intel iMac running 10.5 which worked for my legacy graphics software. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Are special ATI drivers needed? I used this card in an MDD in 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 with no problems. I thought the drivers were in the system software. Am I missing something? From: Kris TilfordTo: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:06 PM Subject: Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11? On Dec 17, 2016, at 1:43 AM, W. Neal Lewis wrote: The Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) has gone far too political for me to stomach. So thank you for the suggestion, but not going there. How can an ‘archive’ be political? It’s like a public library, it doesn’t create content, it preserves content. You’re saying it preserves the ‘wrong’ content for your personal politics? I plan to check with AMD to see if the software is still available from them. You’re about a decade too late. The minute AMD bought ATI, all the old ATI software was lost, the ATI website disappeared, you couldn’t get any meaningful response from AMD. You’re gonna be outta luck here, unless you find an archive site. It is rather interesting, but a very large number of the old sites have vanished without a trace. Welcome to the future. A PPC Mac isn’t going to help much here. For the price of Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition you could get an entire hackintosh that supports current software standards. I’ve been given free computers 10x as powerful as a PPC G4. From an energy usage standpoint, you could probably pay for a new computer with the energy savings alone. This is why LCD monitors replaced CRT so quickly, the energy savings alone paid for the new monitor, same as with LED lighting. A laptop provides the best flops per dollar/watt for normalized consumer use. Old 2008-2009 Mac Minis & laptops can run Sierra using Sierra Patch Tool for very reasonable prices.-- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adobe CS2 licence broken
I did not have any problems moving my CS2 from a G5 back to a G4 a few months ago. Adobe did changed the old link to the CS2 download page with the needed activation numbers. However the activation numbers on the new page are the same as the old page. The new link is: http://www.adobe.com/downloads/other-downloads.html You can download a copy of the old Adobe CS2 page from my Dropbox at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2y6e0kdtdytgvd/Adobe%20CS2%20%20Downloads.zip?dl=0 Maybe reinstall CS2??? Good luck, glen On Fri, 9/9/16, Jörg Duurkoop <yaw...@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Adobe CS2 licence broken To: "G-Group" <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Date: Friday, September 9, 2016, 2:00 PM Hi, I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years without problems. My MDD had crashed recently and after I put my recent CCC backup back on my crashed volume I cannot use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial period has expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The server is not online ... What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any comments? Thanks a lot. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers)
IIRC, I used four 6-32 UNC metal round head screws to add a second HD to my G5 a few years ago. It was not a perfect fit and it may have been more difficult to install the drive than it would with the standard Apple scews but it worked for me. I think the trick was not to screw them in all the way and leave a little space for the head to catch the guides. But that was a long time ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy. However, I would not recommend shipping the G5 with the HD installed with these screws. --glen From: TVirkkala <multi...@wirkman.com> To: LEM G-List <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:54 PM Subject: Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers) Thanks, Dana, re: > You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need > four convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are > are used as guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels > in the HD bay sides - top drive goes in first, starting in the > middle channel (it corrects itself as the drive is inserted, ending > in the top channel), then the second drive goes straight into the > bottom third channel. > The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design- > the heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on > the glides. I probably have them in one of my little parts bins hanging around the office, stuck in the corners t -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Beige G3 startup problem
> On 27 May 2016, at 04:33, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On May 26, 2016, at 7:48 PM, parallel_imp <hillsid...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> As I was trying different PCI cards, it started to not respond to the power >> button. > > I assume you’re saying “I think I shorted out the power supply & VRM” but did > you confirm either the power supply or VRM was bad? > >> There were the correct power supply and VRM on eBay from my own city, so I >> got and installed them. G3 still would not boot from power button, but it >> would from keyboard. > >> I removed the power button and swapped it for one from a G3 MT parts >> machine, and still no boot from the button. However, now the machine when >> shut down immediately reboots, whether with no button, original button or >> the MT button. I have to turn off the power strip to shut down, and it boots >> as soon as power strip is turned on. Thoughts? Did I fry a circuit on the >> motherboard? > > Beige G3 are super finicky. The PRAM & NVRAM do NOT necessarily reset > correctly using keyboard commands. The easy solution would normally be to > remove the PRAM battery and press the CUDA reset button, BUT the beige has > capacitors in the power supply & VRM that leak residual power back into the > motherboard so that even with the PRAM battery & CUDA reset pushed the > PRAM/NVRAM do NOT reset. > > The ONLY way to reset the beige back to original PRAM/NVRAM settings is to > remove the PRAM battery, and then also removed the power supply cables to the > motherboard, pull the VRM, THEN press the CUDA reset button. If it still > doesn’t work, let it sit 15 minutes with no PRAM battery or cables to the > motherboard, press the CUDA again and reassemble. > > I know this sounds kooky, like overkill, but I have a lot of experience with > Beige G3’s and I’ve had many with crazy boot issues that “made no sense” > which were all solved by disconnecting all the power from the motherboard and > reseting with the CUDA reset button. > I can't quite remember, but didn't the cuda button have to be held down for 20 or 30 seconds. I remember it was in an awkward place to hold down for a while with the power board removed. It has been a long time since repaired one, which reminds me to dig out my 7300 and get that running again. Have Fun Glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
Good suggestion: that occurred to me, but the screw is not damaged and a proper tool will remove it. And since I do not have a 10 inch or longer drill bit I would have to buy that tool which probably cost about same as the proper tool. Anyway probably a mute point since the G5 PS located where the computer was dropped and most likely is damaged. Still a possible project if I get bored. Meanwhile the Sawtooth is is just fine. I may replace it with a 2008 or 2009 iMac which will run 10.5 or 10.6 if I need more speed and can find one locally for a good price. Thanks -- glen From: W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstrin...@gmail.com> To: G3-5 List <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth? Reach in with a long reach bit and drill the head off the screw. Or use one of those screw extractor bits ( with the tiny grip teeth) on a long reach extension. Don't let one screw discourage you. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Follow up: I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today and it allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the apps I used with the G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows me to access and edit my legacy files. I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11? Then there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB of the SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion to buy an adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full capacity of the drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software. I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is an Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the screws and a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but easy to figure out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws that require a lot of patience and some improvised tools to get to work. But it does the job so I'm OK with it. Fixing the G5:My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS may be a good replacement had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no surprise. Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and got 7 of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one that won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use again I am giving up on the G5 repair. Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen From: 'glenstrek' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM Subject: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028 I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive to my G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X driver with a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone had any success or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The hard drive is a 320 MB SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade processor with 2 GB RAM and running 10.4.11. The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a USB 2.0 card or the USB 1.1 native bus using a SATA-USB adapter. I would rather have the drive inside the computer and be able to boot the drive into 10.4.11. I can't do that when connected with USB on that old G4. My other option is a SATA/Firewire external enclosure which should be bootable and would cost about the same. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@g
Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
Follow up: I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today and it allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the apps I used with the G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows me to access and edit my legacy files. I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11? Then there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB of the SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion to buy an adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full capacity of the drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software. I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is an Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the screws and a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but easy to figure out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws that require a lot of patience and some improvised tools to get to work. But it does the job so I'm OK with it. Fixing the G5:My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS may be a good replacement had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no surprise. Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and got 7 of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one that won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use again I am giving up on the G5 repair. Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen From: 'glenstrek' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM Subject: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028 I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive to my G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X driver with a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone had any success or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The hard drive is a 320 MB SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade processor with 2 GB RAM and running 10.4.11. The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a USB 2.0 card or the USB 1.1 native bus using a SATA-USB adapter. I would rather have the drive inside the computer and be able to boot the drive into 10.4.11. I can't do that when connected with USB on that old G4. My other option is a SATA/Firewire external enclosure which should be bootable and would cost about the same. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
Do you mean something like this?http://www.amazon.com/HDE-SATA-Drive-Interface-Adapter/dp/B002Y2NI4M/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8=199TBF0PPZSAHR4XHNZW=41y1NmgtUFL=sims=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_ I did not think of going in that direction -- that could work! Then I could put the two ATA/IDE drives now in the Sawtooth into my external Firewire enclosures and have both bootable computers in one G4 until I repair or more likely replace the G5. Thanks, glen From: Jörg Duurkoop <yaw...@gmail.com> To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:36 AM Subject: Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth? Hi Glen, There are cheap adaptors available which fit between the ATA-cable and the SATA-connector on the drive. I have two big and fast SATA drives in my MDD using those adaptors (price was 8 € on the net), the speed is awesome compared to my other internal two ATA-drives. Plus I have all my PCI-slots available for other cards. Good luck, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G5 Tower Won't Start
From: Bruce Johnson <john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> To: "<g3-5-list@googlegroups.com>" <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 6:19 PM Subject: Re: G5 Tower Won't Start > On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:53 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > My only guess is power supply failure. It there anything else to try. Right > now it sits unplugged with PRAM battery removed. I will try again Thursday > morning. Does your G5 have an Apple Cinema Display attached? try disconnecting it and plugging in a regular VGA monitor. This happened to a prof here when the power supply for his 24” Cinema Display died. Really weird. (He ended up going through 2 of the power supplies before he made Apple give him one from a 30”..no more dead power supplies after that. The 30” ps is noticeably beefier than the 24”) --- The monitor is a Hannspree and is connected to the G5's DVI video port. Tried disconnecting everything expect the power cord; it just clicks on then off. Looks likes the power supply needs to be replaced. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G5 Tower Won't Start
Thanks, lot of good info, particularly the pinout diagram. I do have a "spare" PS from another G5 2.5 MHz LCS that was severely damage in shipping. Don't know if the damage included that PS. I found a couple of YouTube videos on replacing and taking apart the G5. Looks a little daunting but at least a have another dead G5 to practice on. Recently sold off all my old Mac's except for one G4. Transferred the critical G5 files to that G4 so I'm back in business. And I finally got to use that USB 2.0 to SATA/IDE adapter I bought an couple of years ago! Just when I thought I was done tinkering with Mac's now I have another project. --glen From: Kris Tilford <ktilfo...@cox.net> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: Re: G5 Tower Won't Start > On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:47 AM, 'Glen' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> > wrote: > > Looks likes the power supply needs to be replaced. You can find the G5 power supply pinout diagrams on this site that shows how to rebuild the power supply. <http://www.item-innovacion.es/en/PowerMac_G5_PSU_Repair.html> The G5 power supplies can be expensive, or hard to find, so in addition to DIY repair, there’s other sites that show how to convert a standard ATX power supply to work in the G5 as a lower cost, more readily available kludge solution. <http://damntechnology.blogspot.com/2009/02/rebuilding-powermac-g5-power-supply.html> -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: google spam
A couple of year ago I received call from a guy "from Google" who wanted to update my business site (now retired) . He had a good presentation and I let him run is pitch. He even used FLASH to to take control of my browser showing me how he could improve the site. When I said I was not interested he got agressive an ended up saying Google would take down my site if I did not agree to his proposition. I told "OK take it down" and hung it. --glen From: Charles Lenington <macso...@cotc.net> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:24 PM Subject: google spam Has anyone received phone calls from google wanting to set up a business account/web site? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Best browser Power Mac G-4 OS 10.5.8?
From: peterh...@cruzio.com peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Best browser Power Mac G-4 OS 10.5.8? I heard that TenFourFox doesn't come with flash player though. Maybe that is the case? I would be curious to see speed comparisons with TenFourFox and a few other browsers still supported on 10.5.8. Do any of these support HTML I wonder? TenFourFox comes in at least two versions, one of which is for 7400 processors, and another which are for the later 7450 processors. Based upon recommendations of security folks, I have removed Flash from my machines. My reply: There is at least one other version of TenFourFox for G5 processors. When I switched from a G4 to a G5 the 7450 version was installed on the cloned HDD and it worked just fine. Later I upgraded to the G5 version. And I do not miss FLASH. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: PowerMac G5 sleep issue
- Original Message - From: 'John Carmonne' via G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: PowerMac G5 sleep issue My G5 PowerMac (latest generation) would not auto deep-sleep (worked fine when done by hand) and that can cost a good chunk of money in electricity (~$100 a year as it idles around 130W, deep-sleeps at about 1/7th of this); turns out that the problem was introduced in 10.5.7 and not fixed in 10.5.8. It is probably a coincidence that the Energy Saver icon was an Edison bulb in 10.5.6, but moved to a CFL in 10.5.7. Earlier G5 PowerMac generations don't seem to suffer this fate, so this may not be of concern to Cube users. [snip] * Using another model DVD drive (Apple System Profiler lists the problem drive as: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B) is all it took to resolve this issue. I tried an NEC 2100AD from another machine I had, and read that an LG GH22NP20 also solves the problem, and hope to try the Apple branded SONY DW-Q28A soon. Makes one wonder about the wisdom of keeping old equipment running; $100 a year in electricity can soon add up to a new machine. Can't complain that life is not keeping me occupied. Maybe we could start a list of Good and Bad drives with respect to this issue. - My Reply: Not sure when the latest generation of G5's begins but I have a dual 2.5 Ghz PowerMac G5 (June 2004), Machine Model PowerMac7,3. It has a Pioneer DVR-117D rev B705 and does not have the sleep problems you describe. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Invalid Sibling Link?
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:25 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: But whatever you do get a new drive for the machine. One that old is likely on it's way to the trash bin. Likely, although volume errors like this can also be soft errors on a good HDD where the volume got messed up by something else. Check the SMART status, and make sure you have good backups, but this isn’t a definitive signal the drive is failing. Two such errors in a short time is, though. Although on youtube I see the magnets can be fun to play with. Much fun indeed. The best come from old server-grade SCSI drives, they’re enormously strong. Our household ‘cookbook’ is about a 30-page stack of recipe printouts on letter sized paper stuck to the side of the fridge with one. You do NOT want to get it stuck on the fridge by itself, there’s no way to get it off except by sliding it to an edge. Once I accidentally let two of them come together from too far away, they shattered when they hit each other. Very sharp, glasslike shards of magnet. -- - My Reply @ W.Adrian: Good advice! The wayward drive is not the original Sawtooth drive but is at least five years old. I plan to replace the Sawtooth with a dual 1.25 MHz MDD which is being replaced with a dual 2.5 GHz G5 in the next week or two. The MDD has drives 2-3 years old. I tend to follow the Mac hand-me-down procedure -- lot'sa good old Mac's out there. I found an article on Mac OS X hints http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20070204093925888 that said I could repair the problem by going into Terminal. No go, but is was fun getting Terminal commands again. A simple erase and restore solved problem with no data loss. KEEP CURRENT BACKUPS!!! Reply @ Bruce I will run SMART. The other two volumes seem OK but who knows? At least all had a redundant back up today. Magnets -- always wanted to try that. Thanks all --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Invalid Sibling Link?
Spec's: G4 Sawtooth upgraded with a dual 1.25 GHz processor, 2 GB RAM, 2-100 GB HDD's, OS 10.4.11. This G4 has been rock solid for a number of years following all upgrades. Today I found a frozen screen saver and no response to keyboard and mouse commands. No hardware or software changes have been made for weeks or months. Restarted to the usual grey Apple startup screen with the rolling spoke/grear wheel and after two minutes the computer turned itself off. Thinking a hard drive failure I rebooted to a back-up eternal drive with success. The normal boot drive was not mounted and would not mount with Disk Utility. I ran Disk First Aid on the damaged volume and received the message: Invalid Sibling Link Volume Check Failed What does that mean? Is there any way to repair this? I do have have recent backup so I could erase the wayward volume and restore the data. Any ideas to get this guy up and running? Thanks --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Invalid Sibling Link?
From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com If you need to get up and running right away, then I'd do that. Otherwise, pick up a copy of DiskWarrior; Alsoft still sells PowerPC compatible versions all the way back to OS 9. Thanks for the quick response. I was thinking of DiskWarrior. Since I still have a number of PowerPC's it may be a good investment. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBook G4 worth buying?
On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, mkehoe wrote: A local Goodwill has a used iBook G4 (no ac power cord/charger) for $40.00. I can power it up with my power cord, but don't know how to get past the older user's password page to see what operating system and software are on it. I can't tell which model it is from looking at the case. If you can find the serial number you can check out the original spec's at: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html Local pickup saves shipping. I got a 1.42 GHZ from the swap list a while back for $60 shipped. It does not hold a charge but makes for a great iTunes server for my living room stereo when plugged in. -- glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBook G4 worth buying?
- Original Message - From: Fabian Fang f...@mac.com On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:39 PM, glen wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, mkehoe wrote: A local Goodwill has a used iBook G4 (no ac power cord/charger) for $40.00. I can power it up with my power cord, but don't know how to get past the older user's password page to see what operating system and software are on it. I can't tell which model it is from looking at the case. If you can find the serial number you can check out the original spec's at: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html Finding the serial number of some iBook G4 models is more easily said than done: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27282 The OP may not be allowed to open up that unit before purchase. -- Granted, but if the serial number is in the battery panel bay (as was mine) the OP only needs a coin to open the latch on the battery panel, remove the battery and note the number. It only takes about 30 seconds. The permission of the seller would be needed. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.
On 22 Jun 2013, at 14:17, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 22/06/13 10.35, Tom ha scritto: Yesterday one of the two displays just suddenly went dark, like blowing out a candle. LCD monitors (and many electronics devices built around 2003-2005) suffer from the bad capacitors plague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague You can google 23 cinema display capacitors and see if some page helps you troubleshooting your problem. I disconnected the dead monitor and all its cables from the Mac. Are you sure there's no adapter still connected to the video card? It may trick the card into thinking a monitor is still there. When I open some windows, they go off the visible screen and open somewhere on the invisible one, on the non-existent monitor, and I can't get at them. Using the display menulet (the icon on the top menu bar), can you change the resolution of the ghost monitor, to a smaller one? This way, windows opening there might be still visible on the main monitor and movable. That's the best that I can think of right now. :-) Hi Have you tried resetting the pram, if this doesn't work try mirroring you will at least be able to see your missing windows. Have Fun Glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade
On 27 Mar 2013, at 17:47, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: This strangeness was first discovered when attempting to install an official pre-release of OS X on my 300 MHz Beige G3 (machine revision 3C ... logic board revision 3; ROM revision C). The machine was so screwed-up by the (failed) OS X installation that it could not see any IDE drives. There was also another board reset (only Beige G3s) involving taking out the small power board and holding the cuda (there was a time on it maybe 20 or 30 seconds), I can't remember if removing the battery was involved or not it has been a very long time since I played around with one of these. Have Fun Glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3
___ From: Fabian Fang f...@mac.com So can anyone recommend a good guide/teach yourself Illustrator book? I don't think it will matter if it's from as far back as V5 (I recall the manual for V5 having a good teaching session, and I don't see that any of the fundamental functions have changed since then.) http://www.amazon.com/Illustrator-Windows-Macintosh-Elaine-Weinmann/dp/0321510453/ref=sr_1_2?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1364233558sr=1-2keywords=illustrator+cs3+books It is a good book. You can still buy a brand new copy for as little as $3.37 (plus shipping) from an Amazon Marketplace. I'll second that suggestion. During the past few years I have purchased half dozen or more Peachpit Press Adobe CS instruction books from Amazon for a dime on the dollar. Clear and easy to read and shipping is only $4 IIRC. Even a used book purchased for $0.01 was in good shape. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX
My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on the logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need of a replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest possible options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe Creative Suite CS3. SATA HDD I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for video scratch purposes. OSX I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for sale. Now cruising eBay. G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB The LEM Swap list may be better than cruising eBay. SATA drives the size you need are not terribly expensive and appear frequently; or just post a WTB. Even new or refurb drives from retail sellers like geeks.com or newegg.com are reasonably priced. CS3 only requires OS 10.4.8 and I your G5 will boot from any retail version of OS 10.4 (black label) unless it is a late 2005 model and then you will need 10.4.4 --according to Mactracker. If you don't need 10.5 for any other software or its features the retail (black label) versions of 10.4.x will do. A free upgrade to 10.4.11 is available from the Apple support site. Oh, and you may want to upgrade the RAM, 512 MB is very light for any version of OS 10 not to mention FCE and CS. --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. Photo's http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ Thanks for the replies, my response will follow but first the latest. Monday: the damaged G5 ran for 3-4 hours with no apparent problems BUT when booting I would hear the fans start to rev up and a short pause rev down ( 1 sec) the a continued rev up and a successful boot. Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side down on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No drips or wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked back in an hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No start up chime, the fans start to rev and then rev down ( 1 sec) and stay down, blank screen. Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts? I'll try to summarize my reply's to posts I can remember, both on and off list. First, I still can't remove the LCS cover as suggested. There was a plastic stud or rivet holding the cover in place. I shaved the top off with a knife but still I could not remove the cover. As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be the source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on one corner and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the inside. OTOH, the G5 was not double boxed and some random pieces of styrofoam used to to keep the 44 lb contents in place were broken. Regarding the idea of transporting the internals to another case, I agree that I will not trust the seller to ship the proper G5 case for this model in good condition. And as I suspected from two posters the process could be long and tedious. Perhaps a great retirement project but I still have at least a year to go and need the G5 now as I enter a greatly needed busy day job schedule. Probably won't get much trouble shooting time until weekend --looks like junk, thanks everyone --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G5 Damaged in Shipping
G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. Photo's http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on arrival. When received there was no anchor screw in the video card slot and no sled for the HD. The video card was reseated and appears OK, the hard drive is toast. The G5 will boot from a retail OS 10.4 install DVD. It will also boot from a external FireWire 10.4.11 drive. All appears OK for the short time I had it running. Conerns; 1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it. 2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no SATA drive at hand to test (one cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. The seller has offered to: 1) send a new case 2) OR offer some $$ compensation Questions: 1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production software is Mac PCI based. 2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new case? Any propriety tools needed? And how to find take a part instructions? I'm up for a challenge --but is it worth it ??? 3) Just live with the bend up case and get a few dollars off purchase price after all the Mac is 9 years old. Somewhat disappointing to finally get G5 and receive it in a damaged condition. Sort'a like buying a classic Corvette and getting slammed by a distracted driver while stopped at a traffic light on its first drive. OTOH it is a challenge to restore what is left to restore. All responses welcomed, thanks --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SCSI issue has arisen
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: RE: ATTO Configuration Tool: I was trying to remember something about the flashing of an older ATTO SCSI PCI card ... I believe if it is flashed for Tiger, you lose the OS 9 capability. It likely depends on the ATTO card you have. I have a UL2D updated to the latest firmware I could find with two LVD SCSI drives attached in a G4 DA that works great in OS 9 and 10.3.9. However, it does have some problems with 10.4.11. The only firmware upgrades I could find for 10.4.11 were for the UL3D and did not flash to the UL2D. No real problem for me since I use the DA as an OS 9 legacy machine; mainly for old PageMaker files and other outdated software. Generally I think ATTO cards and support -- at least in the old days of SCSI was terrific. -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
From: Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:45:01 AM UTC-8, Len Gerstel wrote: Genuine NON Hacked Adobe site!! Mac OS X v.10.2.8–v.10.3.8. PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor. Should work under 10.4 also, let me know if I am wrong. http://www.adobe.com/ downloads/cs2_downloads/index. html Len Thanks for sharing this site. I own Elements 2.0 and it is so outdated! So Elements 4.0/5.0 is welcome! I have a G4 Powerbook 10.4), MacBook Pro (10.5) and a year old iMac (10.6). I doubt if any of the listed Apps will run on the iMac, but would they run on the MBP with 10.5? Also, for Creative Suite 2, do you download all 6 items listed? What other of these Apps would be good to download? What is Acrobat Pro 8? I would download just what you need, for your business or personal use. CS2 will only run on G4 and G5's not sure of the upper limit of the Mac OS. In my case, as a retro printing and graphics arts business, the choices were easy. Upgrade from InDesing CS, Photoshop 9, Illustrator 10 and Acrobat 7 Pro. I'm still using G4's and OS 10.4.11. And thought I'd try GoLive CS2 since I haven't done any web coding in many years so that one was just to learn something new. As in most Adobe CS2 pieces the the learning curve is steep. Fortunately you can find many helpful CS2 books at Amazon for a few dollars new books and a few cents for used plus a $4 shipping for each one. I ordered four books published by Peacepit Press for my new upgrades for about $30 including shipping. Official Abode training books are also available for about the same price. Acorbat 8, as stated earlier, allows you to do some limited editing of PDF files if you have the same fonts in your system. It will also allow you export a PDF to other formats --like Word, which may be easier to edit. It also allows you to create PDF forms with writable fields and PDF files from other program. Of course OS X also can save a file to PDF. Acrobat 8 is a big deal for me since I get so many PDF's from customers that need a lot of help to get printed properly. The Adobe downloads are not a big deal for most folks but they are a very good deal for me after spending many hundred's (1,000's?) of dollars for Adobe software during the last 25 years or so. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
Genuine NON Hacked Adobe site!! Mac OS X v.10.2.8–v.10.3.8. PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor. Should work under 10.4 also, let me know if I am wrong. http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html Len GREAT, heads up! Yo' da'man! Planned to search ebay for Acrobat 8 and CS2 or CS3 upgrades. Hard to believe Adobe did this. Thank you, --glenstrek -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
Adobe has shut down the activation servers, but they're NOT giving anything away for free. The packages provided for download now require a registration key, instead of reaching for the server. Said key is ONLY available to *existing* CS2 customers. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Ahhh, if it is too good to be true. . . That's more like Adobe. I will try to install CS2 and report back. I do have a legal CS [1]. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
Adobe has shut down the activation servers, but they're NOT giving anything away for free. The packages provided for download now require a registration key, instead of reaching for the server. Said key is ONLY available to *existing* CS2 customers. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Ahhh, if it is too good to be true. . . That's more like Adobe. I will try to install CS2 and report back. I do have a legal CS [1]. --glen Just installed Illy CS2 on a this computer which is not my work computer with CS installed. No CS on this Mac and no problems. No Key requested, just the serial number from the Adobe web site.---glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed
- Original Message - From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Subject: Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:12 PM, glen wrote: I have searched Google and no joy. I can print from 10.4.11 on another networked G4 but need to print from legacy OS9 files on the DA that do not play well with OS 10.4.11 or Classic. Perhaps someone has the driver stashed away and could sent it -- or has a download link. Any suggestions? Are you certain there were MacOS drivers? MacOS 9.2.2 was released in 2001, and this LaserJet 5100 was released in June 2002 when OS X 10.1.5 was the current release software for Macs. The HP article titled HP LaserJet 5100 Family Printers - Upgrading the Firmware says there is a MacOS firmware update tool that only works in OS 9, which implies there were OS 9 drivers. You should check the firmware version of your LaserJet because this could be the problem why your printer isn't printing your files correctly in OS X or Classic: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=encc=usobjectID=bpl11999jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN It says the current firmware for LJ5100 is version MB8.23 : http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=encc=usprodTypeId=18972prodSeriesId=74341prodNameId=74343swEnvOID=54swLang=8mode=2taskId=135swItem=lj-5634-5 The drivers here might work after making sure the firmware is latest: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/printers/software/jlegacyen.hqx You should be able to view all these drivers in OS X by FinderGoConnect to Server then add ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/. I have not checked the firmware but suspect since it was recent refurb it should be current. I will check however. Your ftp link did not work. No problem however, read on. Upon reading the manual the printer uses LaserWriter 8 for a driver in OS 8.6 and OS 9. The problem is the PPD which would have been supplied on the install CD is missing. I did not get anything useful from Google searching HP 5100 driver. Then I tried searching HP Laserjet OS 9 PPD and got a hit for a HP 5000, the predecessor to the 5100. The link led to helpdriver.com. Navigating thru printersHPLaserjet 5000, provided a free download which I believe is the same file provided by your ftp link (jlegacyen.hqx) The installation installed many LaserJet PPD's including the LaserJet 5100. So I'm good. On a side note I tried tried another PPD from a GCC XL/1200 1200 dpi printer. The HP 5100 replaced an aging GCC XL/1200 another monochrome printer. The GCC PDD gave me the necessary features as well. I assume both PPD's were written in the same language. I think it is Adobe Postscript 4 (point something) Interesting exercise with a good result. Of course I could have saved the legacy files as a PDF and print from another networked G4 with OS X -- na'h too much work. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed
- Original Message - From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it Il giorno 04/12/12 01:12, glen ha scritto: Looking for OS 9 drivers for Digital Audio G4. Apparently HP no longer has them on their support site.This is not a 5100 Deskjet or 5100 Officejet just a new refurbished black white 1200 dpi 5100 Laserjet printer. Only info I found about this printer and old MacOS is here: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Macintosh-OS-1063/2008/10/OS-8-6-printing.htm I think that that is a DesignJet large format printer not a LaserJet. HP seems to have many 5100's. Thanks for the reply --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed
Looking for OS 9 drivers for Digital Audio G4. Apparently HP no longer has them on their support site.This is not a 5100 Deskjet or 5100 Officejet just a new refurbished black white 1200 dpi 5100 Laserjet printer. Don't know why HP uses 5100 for so many different printers. I have searched Google and no joy. I can print from 10.4.11 on another networked G4 but need to print from legacy OS9 files on the DA that do not play well with OS 10.4.11 or Classic. Perhaps someone has the driver stashed away and could sent it -- or has a download link. Any suggestions? Thanks ---glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 Only
Try this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2016390/FPforFBPPC.zip It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version. It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it does with most. What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ... It's been around. It's a Flash 10.1 with a hacked version number, which does seem sufficient for many sites, but it still suffers from the bugs and security issues of that version. Flash needs to die. Agreed, Missing iTunes radio on 10.4.11 and PCI Macs when Apple dropped support, I tried Pandora as a substitute. No go because of the unsupported Flash version in 10.4.11 --until today-- with the above hack and Safari 4.1.3.Pandora works. It does not work with Ten for Fox but that is not a problem. I like some background music when working so I just crank up Safari and Pandora for music and use Ten for Fox for the important stuff. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Classic Environment
From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net I'm no Photoshop expert, but I thought that Photoshop 7.0 and the update 7.01 were carbon apps that ran in both Mac OS and also OS X natively. I don't think you need the Classic environment to run Photoshop 7.01 in OS X, is should launch within OS X natively I think? Also, there's a special plugin for the G5 that allows the G5 to fully use it's power with Photoshop 7.01: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2132 I had a friend using Photoshop under OS X 10.5.8 on a 1.67GHz G4 AluBook, and he downgraded to 10.4.11 to get better response and speed out of Photoshop, it was a significant speed-up, perhaps 30% using 10.4.11 instead of 10.5.8, so that's one reason you might still consider downgrading, but I'm pretty certain Photoshop 7.01 should run without MacOS or Classic needed. Photoshop 7.0 runs great under OS X 4.11 without Classic. I've run it in a number of G4's from a Sawtooth to an MDD and it is still in use in two G4 towers. Never even tried to run it in Classic. No experience with 10.5 but suspect it should work. Did not know about the 7.01 update but will check it out, thanks Kris --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: upgrading PPC G4
From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it Il giorno 13-09-2012 17:45, spilrules ha scritto: I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a G4 Tower 500mhz dual processor I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD machine for a bit more money and was thinking that this would be a much faster machine for him. It would be way faster, but very likely it will be louder as well (MDDs are known for being the loudest PowerMacs, I think) - unless the original fans have been upgraded. The fans will ramp up if the CPU is hot. My 1.25 Ghz Dual Processor MDD is as quiet any other Mac I have used as I write this post. The room temperature is 82 F (28 C). When the room temp is much higher you will hear the fans.I believe the fans in my MDD are stock. It is important to blow or vacuum out any dust bunnies as they will retard the cooling. When I received my used MDD a dust clomp the size of a mouse (the rodent) was lodged under the Darth Vader grill at the bottom of the case. There is definitely a fan noise on a boot or restart when the CPU is working hard. Unless you dad is doing intensive CPU chores the fan noise should not be a problem. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
- Original Message - From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet? I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. In addition, if you only have the two machines connected be sure you use the proper Ethernet cable. Many older Mac's require a crossover cable. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2274 --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns
- Original Message - From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com At 4:02 PM -0700 6/22/2012, glen wrote: My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords??? Well, that depends on where the breach occurred, of course. If the spammer harvested an address book (or just grabbed From addresses) from the Yahoo server, then that's all they have. But if they had full access to your computer (as a Mac, not likely) ... or if they had full access to your friend's computer (as a PC, quite quite likely) then all bets are off... Once you have access, it's trivial to grab up turbotax files, cookie databases, etc. - Original Message - From: t...@nehaia.dk t...@nehaia.dk please do remember to tell your clients to change their passwords too on the mail servers I'm working with, the most frequent reason for out going spam is caused by peoples accounts have been taken over by spammer due to weak passwords Follow up: -- Just received a second spoofed spam from a business client sent to my business address. My business email account is web based Yahoo Mail and I could not find a way to check the all the headers. However I could check who else it was sent to. This client is in the entertainment business and many of the 24 other addresses the spam was sent to have local entertainment venue domain names which I have never emailed. So it looks like it was my client's email Yahoo account that was compromised and the spam was sent to local addresses on his computer. Switching gears, reviewing my friend's spam send to my personal glenst...@yahoo.com address I found the six other addresses the spam was sent to match addresses of family members and other friends of the friend. And once again no one I ever sent an email to. So I looks like the friends Yahoo account was also compromised. Very disturbing when spammers are accessing your friends and business associates email addresses. Thanks once again to all. And as Tina suggests use strong passwords on all your accounts. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns
- Original Message - From: Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns At 00:26 -0400 6/22/12, Dan wrote: Which spam folder - the one in your local mail client or the one on Yahoo's service? If the former then your Yahoo service isn't doing its job. MY REPLY: It is the one on Yahoo service. OTGH, it's possible your conclusions as to the origins of the emails are incorrect. Them spammers is getting awfully good at forging things these days. Can't tell without seeing 'em tho, including complete headers. Dan's comment on needing full headers is important. You can look at the headers yourself. Email clients regularly suppress headers that they think are not important but, though the button may be hidden pretty well, they can all be asked to show you the whole thing. MY REPLY: I will check the complete headers. My email host adds headers that are derived from SpamAssassin, software used by them on all mail, which can often have something to say about irregularities in the message. But headers can also be faked. The ones fully trustworthy are added last while the message is enroute. The last Received: header is most likely correct. The From: header is generated entirely by the sender and can easily be a lie. It is also possible that your friends' machines have been infected with malware that turns them into a robot which regularly calls a bad machine on the net and receives messages that it will copy out to perhaps hundreds of recipients. That is best fixed by removing the bad stuff from your friend's machine which, as Dan says, is unlikely to be a Mac or other UNIX-based machine. Try looking at the full headers in suspected messages. They're pretty much readable text. You might even discover something in common that you can use as a filter. But then you might discover that Yahoo itself deliberately makes that difficult. They do have some strange ideas that have bothered me. Reading mail over an HTTP link with a browser does limit your options. This could the problem or at least part of it. I forgot to mention that there are two Yahoo email addresses involved, the glenstrek address I use on list and info@[my business name].com which is a low end commercial domain name also hosted hosted by Yahoo. One strange thing is the 2 or 3 spams to the business email addresses are clients I have done no business with recently and have done little business with over the years. These are good folks, repeat customers that just do not need my services that often. In addition one these spams was found in the Yahoo spam folder. Next time this happens I will definitely check the full headers and report back if necessary. My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords??? Dan and Doug, thanks for you help and I will definitely change many passwords. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Questions About New Spam Concerns
I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where it belongs. During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name and email address of former business clients and today the name and email address of a close friend in my inbox. The business clients I have known for a number of years and are not spammers. Furthermore, I have not done any recent business with them. I don't know if they are Mac or Window users so I suspected perhaps some windows malware snatched my email from them and sent the spam masked with their name and address. Today, I received a lose weight spam from a good friend who is a Mac user. Since I am the desired weight for my height I know this is not a hint to lose weight. This friend also uses a smart phone (Blackberry) to exchange emails. So here's are the questions, are any of my Mac's responsible for this? Or, are spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to cause this disturbing disruption? Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I should be concerned with? This raises a lot of red security flags. Thanks for any answers --glen PS all emails were sent from a either a BW G3 (now retired), G4 Sawtooth, DA, or MDD, OS 10.4.11. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD, Gray Screen, Access Optical Drive?
From: t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: MDD, Gray Screen, Access Optical Drive? This 1.25GHz single processor MDD has been having problems for a few weeks. I've backed up everything on the hard drives, so that's good, but haven't had time to replace the drives, reinstall the OS's, move the files, etc. The short question is, how do I get the optical drive to open so that I can insert OS install media, given that I can't boot the machine from any of the hard drives, and there's no media currently in the optical drives? The open tray button doesn't seem to work from the gray screen the machine gets stuck at. I flipped down the mirror door, but didn't see an obvious hole for the paperclip trick. Should I look again? Yes, The hole is hidden behind the gasket looking foam at the bottom of the drive. It is just right of center. Insert a paper clip and tray will open a bit, then you can use you finger to pull it all the way out. Insert DVD or CD and push back in. My MDD is a dual 1.2 GHz with only one optical drive in the upper bay. Don't know about your long question.-- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (BW) - lowest MacOS version that it can run (without emulation)
___ From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (BW) - lowest MacOS version that it can run (without emulation) Additionally, what is the oldest OS that I can install on a PowerMac G3 (BW)? I'm really looking to downgrade as far as possible. The earliest Yosemite will boot 8.5, but I wouldn't do anything earlier than 8.6 on those models. Not to nick pick, but I pretty sure the earliest system is 8.5.1. I remember when I got my first BW I was frustrated when it would not boot 8.5. However, no problem with 8.6 as you suggest. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bringing G3 back into use
- Original Message - From: AppleMac Revisited glyndwrby...@gmail.com Specification: Beige G3 Power PC G3 266MHz 1MB Cache 64MB/4GB HD/24x CD/MSO Machine has been out of use for a couple of years. Rebooted it this morning, screen message came up: “Your computer crashed or was not shut down properly the last time it was used. Your startup disk is being checked by Disk First Aid, and any problems will be repaired.” Mouse arrow appeared on screen alongside this message but arrow would not respond when I moved mouse control to click the proceed box. I remembered during regular use before that this would normally clear message and boot up machine. Just a long shot. If you are using the original ADB mouse check the connection. I have had a similar problem when an ADB mouse connection was not fully seated or dirty. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, ATT rv100, apple DVD player conundrum
- Original Message - From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, ATT rv100, apple DVD player conundrum I thought you needed apples DVD decoder card to play DVDs from OS 9. It doesn't occupy a slot but attaches to the Rage 128 card. That was my original thought but the OP has a Radeon 7000 installed. That should take care of the decoder problem. http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-205178.html --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 9.2.2 NetBook on a G4 DA
I have set up a G4 DA 733 MHz, 1.5GB RAM Mac with OS 9.2.2 to run old legacy PageMaker Files. Some of my clients still need revisions to files that were created 10-15 or more years ago. Rather than convert them to InDesign files I decided this is a better way to go, For some reason a retail 9.1 install disk would not install on the DA so I used the Apple NetBoot version to to install 9.2.2. I removed two extensions that had some reference to NetBoot and the system booted into a more modern desktop, a sort of a blue/gray version of OS X, really nice eye candy. However, upon boot I get the message: Macintosh Manager cannot find any servers You need to locate the Macintosh Manager server to use. I hit the OK button After more dialogue boxes and buttons I get:Enter the NetBoot password After I enter the default password all is fine, I'm in 9.2.2 Is there anyway to avoid this dance with NetBoot queries when I boot into 9.2.2? Perhaps there is another extension that should be disabled? Or how can I locate the Macintosh Manager? Suggestions appreciated, thanks --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Free memory vs Disc burning
From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D Just a WAG but could it be a drive firmware problem? I found this thread on rpc1.org http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=36515 Some Pioneer drives are FLASH_able some are not depending on the OEM. There maybe other threads on the rpc.1 forums regarding the DVR-127D. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: g4 mdd getting louder?
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. Absolutely, recently purchased a MDD and while unpacking it a dust bunny about the size of a mouse (the rodent) fell out. When I opened the MDD up the inside was really dusty. Before I attempted to start it up, I blew all the internals out with the shop's air compressor. Now it is nearly as quiet as a cat that only makes noises when it needs to; you get the idea. Look for a bunch of dust below the Garth Vader grill and also the dust in and around the power supply. And clean out all the dust you can find --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
- Original Message - Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto: Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down? Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or more). BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact). I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6 thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened before this G5. I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an hardware than software issue. Perhaps a dirty or loose USB connection sending the wrong signal like a depressed mouse button? I had the same problem with a Sawtooth G4 and at first thought it was a firmware problem with the upgraded DVD drive. When I replaced the Sawtooth with DA attached to the same keyboard and mouse the problem continued with the tray opening on every boot. The mouse was connected to the USB port on the keyboard and the keyboard was connected to the logicboard. After reading Cameron's recent post I unplugged everything from the USB ports on the DA logicboard and rebooted, The DVD tray did not open on boot for the first time in months. I reseated all USB connections and rebooted without the problem. Thus I would look for a dirty or loose USB connection or bad cable or a faulty USB port causing the problem -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
- Original Message - From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to the MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports. You could always try a safe boot if you have an Apple monitor with an ADC connector. With a safe boot the main monitor will always be on the ADC monitor. That is if your MDD has an Apple video card ... Be warned a long reply follows: [Just to recap, a newly acquired MDD boots fine on an old test hard drive called Mac OSX but refuses to boot to a different hard drive (Drive 1) on a cloned volume a from a QuickSilver which I want to be the main volume.] I connected an ADC Apple display to to the MDD as Jörg suggested. I selected Drive 1 as the boot drive, and in safe mode the MDD booted to Mac OS X and asks for the password for the user in Drive 1, when entered it boots to Drive 1. THIS IS THE DESIRED RESULT! However, It seems odd that when Drive 1 was selected as boot drive Mac OS X comes up in single user mode and asks for the password of the user in Drive 1?? Once booted in Drive 1 in safe mode a restart results in the dreaded blue screen as reported earlier. Not the desktop blue screen just a plain light blue with no variations in blue tones or swirls as in the default desktop of 10.4.11. So now I don't think it is second monitor problem preference problem. (see earlier posts). Perhaps as suggested in an earlier post, Disk Warrior may solve the problem. I know Disk Warrior is great to have in your toolbox. But given Disk Warrior cost more than I paid for the MDD, I will likely just do an Achieve and Install of 10.4 as suggested in another post and hope that solves this weird problem. This in not a production machine so time is relative but dollars are not. :-) Next and hopefully final question before I do a reinstall -- when Drive 1 becomes the boot drive in safe mode why does a restart results in the dreaded blue screen? If I can get a boot to Drive1 what is preventing boot on a restart? Many thanks to Jörg, Peter, John Eelco for your help --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
- Original Message - A similar sort of thing happened to me years ago but in my case it was caused by the extended desktop prefs. My mac thought I had two monitors connected and booted to the plain blue screen of the second display - the menus etc were on an imaginary monitor off stage left. It was caused in my case by a flashed video card which had vga and dvi but no vga through the dvi port and the mac presumed the dvi to be the primary display - but I had no dvi monitor at that time so I was stuck with the vga secondary screen and what became quite a problem - how to open, grab and drag system prefs from a monitor I couldn't see to the one I could and turn on mirroring. Probably not your problem but is the MDD set to the same primary video port as the QS was? Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to the MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports. Definitely something to play with after work. If that fails a reinstall of 10.4.11 as suggested may be the way to go. Thanks --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD Boot Problem
Spec's: 2003 MDD dual G4 -1.25 Mhz 2 MB RAM ATI 9000 Pro Boot ROM 4.4.8f2 This MDD was newly acquired without a HD. I installed a a spare Western Digital (WDC W0800BB) 80 GB drive with OS 10.4.11 for testing purposes -- no problems with that drive, it boots fine. Then added a second 250 GB Seagate (ST3250620A) freshly erased with 2 empty journaled HFS+ partitions called Drive1 (80 GB) and Drive 2 (152 GB) Using the WD 80 GB drive as the boot drive I cloned the data and system (OS 10.4.11) from a backup of a QuickSilver drive to the empty Seagate partition called Drive 1. This will become the main startup drive for the MDD if I can get it to work. Problem: The cloned QuickSilver drive will not completely boot. The grey screen with the apple logo appears, the gear like wheel rotates for 20-30 seconds and the screen goes to a blank blue screen; mouse and keyboard have no input. What I have done to no avail: Tried jumpers set to CS and set to Master/Slave Tried a second clone using CCC. The first clone was made with SuperDuper! Tried to boot the clone from the external FireWire backup Booted in verbose mode Ran 10.4.11 combo update on Drive 1 Installed new PRAM battery Removed all PCI cards Removed the both hard drives from the MDD and installed the actual 40 GB Seagate drive from the QuickSilver Same blank blue screen on all accounts However, a fresh 10.4.11 install from the install DVD to the empty Drive 2 partition boots OK; that should eliminate problems with the MDD ATA/IDE controller or 250 GB Seagate drive. Why won't the MDD boot from the QuickSilver clone, or from Drive 1 or from the actual QuickSilver hard drive? Help, I'm running out of ideas --glen BTW the WD 80 GB drive that does boot OK was pulled from a Sawtooth a few months ago. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
- Original Message - From: JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:34 PM, glen wrote: Spec's: 2003 MDD dual G4 -1.25 Mhz 2 MB RAM ATI 9000 Pro Boot ROM 4.4.8f2 Problem: The cloned QuickSilver drive will not completely boot. The grey screen with the apple logo appears, the gear like wheel rotates for 20-30 seconds and the screen goes to a blank blue screen; mouse and keyboard have no input. Why won't the MDD boot from the QuickSilver clone, or from Drive 1 or from the actual QuickSilver hard drive? The first thing is the MDD will always look to boot the drive at the end of the cable on the fastest Bus. However I'm pretty sure if you run DiskWarrior on the cloned drive it'll boot.:-) I have tried putting the QuickSilver drive a the end of cable with no other drives attached to the main/fastest 100 Mhz ATA bus and the problem persisted. Unfortunately I do not have DiskWarrior. Perhaps now is the time for purchase. Depending on how picky the MDD is concerning the directory, maybe errors could explain the boot problem. However the drive works perfectly in the QuickSilver. I did run Disk Utility on the drive and the volume passed without errors but DU is no DW. More history on the Quicksilver drivein question: Originally it was installed in a G3 BW 350Mhz rev1 (OS 10.3.9) then transplanted to a 450 MHz rev2 BW and upgraded to 10.4.11 about 20 months ago. Finally installed in a G4 QuickSilver 867 MHz three months ago all upgrades had no problems. I thought OS 10.4.11 was compatible with all Mac's that supported 10.4.11 -- now I wonder?? Thanks, I sincerely appreciate the reply. Before I lay down the bucks for DW anyone else have other suggestions -glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Studio Display Monitor Broken Hinge
From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net After looking at the picture of where it broke my idea about JB Weld probably won't work? From: glen glenst...@yahoo.com This little Apple Studio Display M2454 monitor has seen light use and has a lot of life left. It has been attached to my Mac G4's for testing purposes. In a really dumb move I broke the acrylic stand connection to the monitor. I tried to super glue it together but as you may guess that did not work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/6808551702 Thanks Richard I agree. It is a small monitor but is heavy enough to put a lot of sheer stress on the small plastic neck that is only about 4mm x 10mm. --But I was looking for a good epoxy for a different project maybe JB Weld is the way to go. I may take Brian's easel or Roger's tripod suggestions and check out the local retail outlets for such a devices. The wall mount is out since I only use the monitor to check out newly acquired used Mac's. And as suggested I may place an ad in the local Craig's List or FreeCycle for a broken Studio Display but I don't think they are that common around here. Most likely it will quicker an easier for me to just make some sort of easel or tripod like device from left over wood hanging around the shop. It won't be pretty but it should work. I thought since the support base on these monitors are fragile and prone to break from boneheads moves like the one I did that the replacement parts would be available. Thanks for ALL the replies --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Studio Display Monitor Broken Hinge
This little Apple Studio Display M2454 monitor has seen light use and has a lot of life left. It has been attached to my Mac G4's for testing purposes. In a really dumb move I broke the acrylic stand connection to the monitor. I tried to super glue it together but as you may guess that did not work. http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/6808551702 It looks easy to replace the broken part but any ideas where to get one. And what is it called. If I were to post a WTB to the LEM Swap List I would not know what to ask for. Perhaps there is a third party parts dealer that won't charge more for the part than the monitor is worth. Any ideas? Thanks, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: bots
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu See EVERYONE starts out as a newbie at some point...:-) It was about 6 months later that I got my own first Mac, proudly paying $850 for a demo model Mac Plus at a computer store closeout sale, incidentally racking up my very first bit of credit card debt as well...ended up getting a add-on 800K external floppy some months later, then the harrowing and forbidden ordeals of cracking the case and upgrading it, first to 2.5 MB (clipping those resistor leads were literally more nerve-wracking than anything I've done since, including my wedding day.) Ahh, you bring back old memories. For me it was clipping the resistor on a Mac SE. I was literally sweating bullets and feared a sweat drop would find its way to the motherboard and destroy the board. Worse, a year so latter I had to solder the clipped resistor back to the board for a processor or some other upgrade. Of course all this happens in the summer with the temp at 90 F. We all learn, now swapping out a processor or motherboard on my G4's seems so much less stressful. Thanks for the memories. -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flash work-around
On 11 Dec 2011, at 22:02, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Listers, Where can I find the flash player plugin that has been mentioned recently? Guess I should have kept my old mail. On my DA running 10.4.11 Flash no longer works.videos fail to load . What a drag! Thanks, Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Copied from a previous email: Hi As you have a PPC mac you will have to download Flash Player 10.1, It is almost impossible to find on the Adobe Website, I eventually found it in an archive for Flash Designers, it seems that PowerPC mac owners are no longer supported. Here is the link: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html Have Fun Glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: connectivity question
- Original Message - From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: FAX is a nearly extinct technology, killed off by the internet. I can understand needing to send or perhaps receive one FAX, but adding FAX capability when the number of FAX machines available to communicate with is quickly vanishing seems futile. You seem to inhabit a strange world where that which is not on the internet is not, somehow, real. Faxes are in wide, wide usage. We just set up network fax capability on a large Ricoh network copier/printer for one of the larger groups in the College here because their old bank of 4 fax machines was dying. They send and receive hundreds of faxes a week. About half of all prescriptions filled remotely in the US is done by fax machine. A fax cannot be falsified via a MITM attack like an email can, nor can it be as easily forged, and faxes, unlike emails, support legal signature requirements. I think it really depends on what the OP fax needs are. I believe fax is a dying technology but not nearly extinct yet. As owner of a small printing company that offers a fax service my copier/printers have fax capabilities that are used daily for many folks who need to send or receive requested documents to banks, real estate companies, academic, legal and medical institutions. Many of these clients are not computer savy or wish to spend the money and/or time to upgrade to a fax modem or an all-in-one machine. Some of these clients have payed more for my service than for a fax or or all-in-one machine costs. AND I have shared that info with them --but still they are not comfortable or confident with the technology. So at one level for many of us the fax as means to send info is dead. For many others it is still essential. Faxes are definitely more secure than email in the hacking sense. However as I stated in a previous thread, some people run for the WhiteOut and alter the documents before they are faxed. Sometimes just do this to hide their phone and address. And sometimes they write over the WhiteOut changing the integrity of the document. So in an analog sense faxes are also subject to fraud. Getting back to the original problem, the OP has a need for a fax solution. Wouldn't a simple installation of the G4 internal modem work? Perhaps the QS 2002 has one already installed? They are selling for $5-10 on the LEM list. Don't know if they work with DSL? And I like Peter's suggestion of a 5-in-1 (all-in-one) idea, simple and to the point and more useful than a fax modem. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD just shuts down by itself… opinions please.
From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Here we have an MDD powermac G4, 2gb ram Leopard 10.5.8 stock video with the only modification being a USB2.0 card. The other night, the machine just powered down all by itself ... looks like PRAM battery? clock is doing the usual mishap... A real long shot but perhaps a defective keyboard or keyboard cable/connection. I had the the shut down problem on a PCI Mac that had a failed keyboard. Don't recall any clock problem however. Try switching keyboards and cables. Overheating or a failed power supply as discussed is probably a more likely culprit. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
Thanks Paul that's exactly what I wanted to know. I run an old version of InDesign and PhotoShop. $50 sounds about right. I'll be checking the LEM Swap list an eBay for deals --glen - Original Message - From: par prieme...@q.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected I see a good speed hike with InDesign and Photo Shop. Usually the processor upgrades for the Quicksilver are so expensive I haven't even considered them, but recently got a good deal - $50 - which made it reasonable. Paul Riemerman On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: par prieme...@q.com I just upgraded my 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002 with a 1 Ghz dual processor. It was much easier than I thought it would be, based on installation instructions I picked up on the net, implying you're almost certain to bend the processor pins/wreck the upgrade processor. I just took special care to pull the old processor straight up, and not force in the new processor. Anyone you got the idea it's not an upgrade to try without extreme skill stop worrrying. I have a recently purchased 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002. Just curious as to how much of a noticeable speed increase you see with the dual 1 GHz upgrade. I have been thinking of doing a processor and video card upgrade on the cheap. Any recommendations on a video card upgrade? Not worried about the installation, as you stated be careful with the pins. And I always use grounding strap to prevent any fatal static discharges. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
- Original Message - From: par prieme...@q.com I just upgraded my 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002 with a 1 Ghz dual processor. It was much easier than I thought it would be, based on installation instructions I picked up on the net, implying you're almost certain to bend the processor pins/wreck the upgrade processor. I just took special care to pull the old processor straight up, and not force in the new processor. Anyone you got the idea it's not an upgrade to try without extreme skill stop worrrying. I have a recently purchased 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002. Just curious as to how much of a noticeable speed increase you see with the dual 1 GHz upgrade. I have been thinking of doing a processor and video card upgrade on the cheap. Any recommendations on a video card upgrade? Not worried about the installation, as you stated be careful with the pins. And I always use grounding strap to prevent any fatal static discharges. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch
- Original Message - From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Since the problem happens when booted in both OS 9 OS X, it's unlikely to be a software issue. You need to be thinking about hardware problems. Zapping the PRAM isn't always enough, you may need to reset the NVRAM by booting Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing: set-defaultsReturn reset-allReturn One thing that dramatically effects speed is the L2 cache. If the L2 cache isn't functional, the speed will be REALLY slow. The Sawtooth has a 1MB L2 integrated into the G4 module. If the L2 goes bad, you would normally see a warning when booting OS 9, and in OS X System Profiler I believe a bad L2 is shown as no L2 or 0MB? I reset the NVRAM and found the L2 cache in OS X to be 1 MB. I also ran Verify Disk in Disk Utility on the HDD and after 5 minutes it said all three volumes passed. But it is still incredible slow in OS 9 -- seconds to drag a folder to the Trash. I was wrong about the speed in OS X. Given the Sawtooth only has a 450 MHz processor I think its speed is normal. I ran the legacy software like PageMaker in Classic mode and all seemed normal. Perhaps a bit slower than native OS 9 before the HDD switch but no real hesitation in opening files or window, no ghost images when dragging windows around, and no hesitation dragging files and folders into Trash. The problem seems to be with native OS 9. Could it be some kind of OS 9 directory corruption? I have a pre OS X version of Disk Warrior but don't think it would be good to run it under OS 9 on a volume with OS X installed? I could try a clean install of OS 9 (ugh) or just run in Classic under OS X and re-managed the thousands of fonts-- not so bad and still fast enough for this legacy machine. Anyway, thanks Kris, I appreciate your time. AND From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com How much space is left on your boot volume? WDC HDD 74.3 GB (1024) total space Boot Volume: 37.1 GB total -- 25.97 GB available Data Volume: 27.25 GB total -- 17.88 GB available Scrath Volume: 9.8 GB total -- 9.78 GB available Best regards --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch
Spec's: G4 Sawtooth 450 MHz, 1 GB RAM, OS 9.2.2. and OS 10.4.11 on same boot volume. WDC 80 GB Master (boot), Seagate 80 GB slave (for back ups), ATTO UL2D SCSI card with a pair of 18 GB HDD drives for the old backups, and stock ATI Pro Video card. This is a legacy machine running legacy graphic arts software (PageMaker 6.5, Extensis Suitcase, old PS, Illy, Acrobat, etc) in Mac OS 9.2.2 for old files that my clients routinely change and update for printing. It was easier just to print from the old stuff than redo or convert. Before the HDD switch it was running mostly OS 9 and was very quick and snappy. When copying the data from the old drive I cloned the boot volume to an external Firewire drive volume and restored this clone to the WDC 80 GB. I cloned the data volume to another FW external volume and then cloned that to the Seagate 80 GB drive. I have checked the proper Master/Slave jumpers on the new HDD's The problem: When I do the simplest tasks in OS 9 --like close a window or drag a file to the trash the screen pauses for 5, 10, 15 seconds as it redraws itself. Desktop icons (only a few) unmount an remount and all work comes to a halt until the process is completed. What I have done in OS 9 is: 1) Zapped the PRAM 2) Rebuilt the desk top of the boot volume and the data volume, both on the WDE 80 GB drive. 3) Disconnected the SCSI drives from the ATTO card 4) Disconnected the slave 80 GB Seagate backup drive. 5) Left the computer on overnight in case it was some kind of indexing problem 6) Tried running Classic OS 10.4.11. I get a Server Not Found Message And I will also need to resolve a lot of font problems in. 6a) I deleted all recent server aliases in the Apple menu and unchecked auto update time in all Preferences. Cause of the problem? It doesn't matter to me if I run OS 9 or Classic in OS 10. I just need to get the old speed back. TIA --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Retr0Brite?
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu I've acquired a Mac IIci case I'd like to clean up, and came across this: http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ I vaguely recall some discussion of this a while back Anyone have experiences with this? Should I be careful to mask the Apple logo and such? (it appears from the wiki that I don't have to; this system isn't that badly discolored, meaning a shorter treatment time) I do not have any first hand experience but there has been a number of discussions of Retr0bright on the LEM Vintage list. http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs You don't have to join, just search Retr0bright and Retrobright it will reveal a number of posts, along with other alternatives to fixing discoloring. One of these days I may do the same and restore my IIFX. Good luck --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 16x DVD burning in PowerMac G4
From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com I'm going to top post on this one and ask the question: WHAT THE HECK? Tina *Awesome Pictues te: Wed,7 Ju2011 9:06:13 -0600* */Submarine Racing - Awesome Pictures”/** The 2009 World Submarine Racing Championships held from New London Connecticut to Hamilton Bermuda ** **Well, ...What did you expect to see They're submarines… I suspect someone included an an errand email/spam in the reply or perhaps its just plain spam. Usually I find this annoying but the fact that I have a partial view of the New London Harbor and indeed do see US Navy submarines going to to and from the submarine base on my side of the harbor made the spam interesting to me. The joke (not very funny) is you can't see submarine races from sea level. I suspect the military may do such exercises -- who knows? Submarine info is TOP SECRET. In my early life I worked in the shipyard that built many those Navy subs. And today the shipyard parking lot boarders my residence. Which made the post even more bizzaro. Very strange --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Snoring G4 Digital Audio?
- Original Message - I replaced the power supply on my DA with a regular $20 ATX supply modified according to the instructions at this link: http://atxg4.com/ Perhaps he is still selling the harnesses. ($20) It works. If you compare the pinout diagrams you will note the differences between the various machines. Thanks Bruce, Valter, et al. I have taken the easy way out. The sledge hammer solution :) Thanks to Barry in Cranston, RI, I picked up a 867MHz Quicksilver for about the same cost as an ATX PS with the conversion harness and the resulting shipping charges. I came to realize the 28 pin DA PS's are rather rare to find used and expensive to replace. Of course the fan replacement would be less expensive. But there is no reason to believe is is just simply a fan problem. The fan speeds up which indicates a heating problem and then the fan vibrates loudly. Which brings about the proverbial chicken or egg question. If and when I ever have time I may try to replace the PS fan and I will definitely keep an eye on the SWAP list for an inexpensive DA power supply. In the mean time I will use the DA 'til next weekend (or until if fails) when I will transfer the DA guts to the QS. Always wanted a QS anyway. Shameless plug for Barry in Cranston, RI: If you are in Southern New England his shop has lots'a Mac's -- vintage thru G4's at least -- and he opened up on the Labor Day holiday for me and another customer. You can find on the SWAP list. He certainly made my day. Thanks all --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Snoring G4 Digital Audio?
My DA sounds like its snoring -- Wooooo_zz. Sorta' like entering a bedroom with someone asleep -- inhale-exhale snore about every 5 seconds or so. This condition just started a few days ago. The problem seems to be coming from the power supply fan speeding up (heat issue?) and then vibrating . I have blown out all dust from the PS and the rest of the internals. The main case fan seems to be OK. I can feel the vibration when I touch the case of the PS during the times. So, the questions: 1) can it be fixed? I read recent tread about PS high voltage so I don't think I want to get fried replacing the the PS fan. 2) is the DA PS the same as the G3 BW as I have some spares? 3) what other cheap PS's can be used as a replacement? 4) does it matter? I can deal with the noise, but is an impending PS failure imminent? This is my main business computer. Thanks as always, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: You all have probably figured it out by now
Subject: You all have probably figured it out by now but fuse.net is spazzing out again. I've gotten like 400 LEM list bounces dating back to january from someone there just this morning... -- Bruce Johnson fuse.net? -- no problem here, really sorry --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
From: Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago? So far no problems here. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: You all have probably figured it out by now
- Original Message From: glen glenst...@yahoo.com Subject: You all have probably figured it out by now but fuse.net is spazzing out again. I've gotten like 400 LEM list bounces dating back to january from someone there just this morning... -- Bruce Johnson fuse.net? -- no problem here, really sorry --glen I just found 45 LEM bounces in my Spam folder. At least they are easy to delete. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
- Original Message From: Jerry apple.mail.lis...@oryx.cc strange, it used to be only the softies that relied on file name extensions to determine file type. Apple people had the resource fork and Unix people had /etc/magic . Anyway, you can write a nice script that would be a whole lot more robust, but the quick and dirty way would be to run this from the directory where all of your images are located in an xterm, or in a Terminal.app window: % file * | grep -i tif This would identify your tiff files, and then you can move them off to another directory, or what ever you need to do. Another easy terminal command that even I could do. I have written them all down; I know one day I will need them. The quick and dirty way I used was simple cmd-F in Finder. Since all the files had a unique six-letter prefix I entered it into the find box this gave me 3400+ file and 3400+ sub folders. Refining the search to Image files gave me the list of 3400+ TIF's I needed. Then dropping after them all into the desktop printer icon -- 20 hrs later all files were printed and billed. Thanks, I promise I will learn terminal, I will learn terminal, I will learn --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RealTek 8169 in Beige G3 on OSX?
- Original Message From: t...@io.com t...@io.com Alternatively you can hold down command-V whilst booting to get the verbose start up and watch carefully for things mentioning the card. Thank you, Bruce. I will investigate these avenues this evening and report back. Perhaps I'll also try a different PCI slot and pull the USB card (far fetched, but unlikely to hurt). Also forgot to boot up in verbose mode. Should have done that. Sigh. But I didn't want to put hours and hours into it again. I have firmly reminded myself that this exercise is to speed the transfer of data off of the machine, not to become an expert at installing 8169 cards. So, it occurred to me The 8169 works great in OS9. The files are all available and visible in OS9. I'll just boot into OS9 and transfer the files off of the machine, over my network, and to the Mini, while the Beige is booted into OS9. :-) QED. OS9 might be slower than OSX at network activity (is it?) but the Mini only has a 10/100 port anyway. So with the Beige slinging data at gigabit, and throttling down to 100 at the switch on its way to the mini, I imagine the Beige in OS9 will give me as good of performance as the other bottlenecks can take. Then I can store or dispose of the giant Beige and the tiny little Mini will become the household iTunes server. Yea. Perhaps some day I'll revisit this issue out of curiosity. Darn it. The 8169 ought to work, and it bugs me that it doesn't Sounds like a good plan. I doubt OS 9 is slower than OSX in network transfers in a Beige G3. If you ever decide to revisit the issue be sure to use the cmd-V Verbose mode at boot. Aside from all the googlely-gook you see on screen it can provide a lot of good info on the card in question and I think there is a way to print it out (from logs) if goes too fast to read. I used this method on my unsupported OSX Mac's to help solve a few problems in years past. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
- Original Message From: Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com I'd like to rather see this as a get to know something new every day. ;-) All right then! When you print something, the system reads the file and sends the DATA to the printer... regardless of the original file format it was saved in. (at least, that's what I understood) You're right. I was still thinking in terms of Postscript printers, but these days most printers just get a bitmap formatted properly for them by the printer driver. That leaves me wondering what a printer's CPU is doing these days. Anyway, the OP might look into a RAM upgrade for that printer. That would be kind of an answer to his question, after all. Saving an uncompressed TIF or an higly compressed JPG takes the same time (on a modern Mac), but with the JPG you get 1/10th of the size (or less). Yes, but I was talking of lossless compression, where tighter compression requires more passes through the file. Photoshop doesn't give a choice when saving TIFF files except for Layer Compression, where ZIP takes about twice the time. But it's true, that's only a few seconds difference on my 2x500 G4 (for a 2MB file). I'm the OP, FYI here's a follow up. The job took about 20 hrs to print the 3400+ files, approximately 200 files/hr not counting downtime. No problem since I could do other work while the files printed in background. They are legal files so I needed to check the numbered pages and noticed 3 or 4 pages out of 100 were printed out of sequence; for example 1,2,3,5,4,6,7 and so on. The system: DA 733 MHz with maxed RAM @ 1.5 GB Canon IR C3220 color copier/printer with Fiery imagePASS C-1 RIP The RIP to much to my surprise is only an Intel PIII 850 Mhz with either 128 MB or 256 MB RAM. So, here is my observations using Activity Monitor and a wall clock. When I drop 200 TIFF files into the desktop printer. The files start to print in about a minute. The DA CPU is pegged at nearly 100% for about 1/2 hour then drops top about 4-6% unless I use the DA for other work. The printer continues to crank out pages at about 4 ppm. The files are approx 100 KB TIFF compressed. From PhotoShop, the resolution is 300 ppi and image size is 2535x3368 pixels (8.45 in. x 11.227 in.) The RIP seems to be the bottleneck. In practical terms the old 733 MHz Mac can process files twice as fast as the RIP. Good exercise, thanks for all who replied. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
- Original Message From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it Most multi-page documents (.pdf's or even M$ Word docs) print at the usuall 30 to 80 page/minute even if they large color files. I wonder why these small B/W .tif scans take so long? It might be because they are probably compressed TIFFs, so the actual (uncompressed) data si much bigger (let's say some megabytes uncompressed vs 60 kylobytes compressed?). If the printing sends the uncompressed image binary data, it'll take some time... Yes, that explains it. So I ran some tests for the Geke minded. The test file was 76 KB in its original configuration. This is the size is from Get Info in Preview as the default viewer in 10.4.11. When saved as uncompressed it grew to 8.1 MB. When saved again with LZW compression it was 220 KB. When I changed the default application to PhotoShop the original file grew to 144 KB. When saved as uncompressed it grew to only 1.1 MB. A lot less than 8.1 MB file from Preview . When saved with LZW compression in PS it dropped to 236 KB and when saved with ZIP compression it was 212 KB. Certainly many different file sizes. And I don't have a clue why. I wonder what compression was used originally to get the file to 76 KB? It would be a lot more efficient to store or email a 76 KB files than 200+ KB files if we could do that in an OSX environment. The file is a 1 bit/channel B/W (line art) not 8 bit greyscale. I assume the scans were done on a commerical high speed document scanner in a Windows environment. Perhaps the same scanner is also compatible with Mac OSX. I would love to get my letter size 1 bit .tiff scans down to 70-100 KB compressed size but then I only using inexpensive flatbed scanners. Just a FYI report. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On May 28, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Geke wrote: Or: Glen could batch-process the images, i.e. open them and save them uncompressed, and then print those. That would take the load off the printer’s processor and put it on the Mac’s CPU. Decompressing the tiff file (which is LZW compressed) is done by the CPU anyway, not the printer. This is what transpires: When I send 100 or 200 compressed tiff's to the Canon IRC3220 copier/printer. It takes 1-2 minutes to get the green light on the copier/printer start flashing indicating that files are received and printing starts in about another minute, The spinning beach ball on the Mac spins for about another minute and goes away. Then the activity monitor on the Mac CPU is around 4% unless I use the mouse or do other work and then of course the CPU activity goes up. 100 compressed files are approximately 10 MB so I think the transfer time over 10baseT Ethernet is about right. But I suspect the RIP* in copier/printer is taking the heavy load and processing the files since it takes about an hour to print 200 files and in the mean time the Mac is total useful for other work. I don't have the spec's for the RIP in the 3220 but do know it is faster that the RIP in my other copier/printer which has dual-core 2.5 MHz processor. Really would not expect my outdated 733 MHz DA to process these files in a shorter time than the RIP in a production machine -- but I really don't know all the in's and out's of the process so I'm guessing. Thanks again Bruce as always you have been so very helpful. --glen *RIP for the non-Geke this stands for Raster Image Processor which takes the pixels in the file and turns them into a printed page (greatly oversimplified). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_image_processor -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On May 26, 2011, at 5:31 PM, glen wrote: Sooo, the QUESTION: is there any Mac software that will sniff out the .tiff docs and send them to my high speed commercial digital copier and allow me to print the 3000 pages without having to open each tiff file separately to to print it. Or is this just another Mico$oft I got'cha. tiff files are not microsoft files. You can use the OS X command line to achieve this. see http://www.mcelhearn.com/2004/12/08/printing-from-the-command-line/ Yes you should be able to do what you want; but it will take some unix chops. The find command is your friend. So the concept is 'find all the files like *.0001- *.0300 on the CD' and send them to the lp command specifying the high-speed printer.' the find command should be able to do this. Hopefully someone with better unix command-line skills can manage this. Yes the Find Command! I did not need to use command-line -- one day I will need to learn more unix. I just used the Cmd-F in Finder. The first six letters of all the files to be printed are the same and unique. The result was a list of 3431 subfolders and 3431 .tif files (one in each subfolder). Why does commerical M$ scanner software put each scan in a subfolder -- ahh, never mind it's M$. Then I refined the search from Kind-Any to Kind-Images and that gave me a list of the 3431 .tif's. Now I can select as many files as I want to print by clicking on the first and scrolling down the list while holding the shift and clicking on the last. Or I could hit cmd-A to select all 3431 files -- didn't do that. Then I dragged the selected batch into the desk top printer Icon and they print away in the background. I could still use Mac DA for all other work or browsing or checking emails. Wow! Also switched commercial digital copier/printers from a B/W Canon IR8070 to a color IRC3220 (in B/W mode) with a faster RIP this increased speed to 4 prints/min. Generally these machines produce 30 to 80 copies/min but these small (60kb) .tif scans really slow things down. Of course I could use both machines at the same time but really needed to keep one available for other work. Most multi-page documents (.pdf's or even M$ Word docs) print at the usuall 30 to 80 page/minute even if they large color files. I wonder why these small B/W .tif scans take so long? Oh well got 1200 pages printed today only 2200 more to go :-). And worked out a deal with the law firm on cost, so I'm good. Thanks Bruce, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
Here's the deal. I have been given a CD with more than 3,000 pages scanned in the .tiff format, I assume they were scanned with a high speed commercial digital copier/scanner in a Windows office environment. For security reasons, the scan folder is named xxx_0001. There is also another nondescript file named xxx_0001.OPT. A seach reveals OPT is: OPT file is a Microsoft Visual Studio Workspace Options. This is a binary file that is the workspace options file for the local computer. When I open the scan folder I see 3000 subfolders with names xxx.0001 to xxx.3000. If I open each subfolder I see a one page tiff scan with consecutive legal Bates Numbers xxx.0001 thu xxx.3000. I did open and try dropping the first 15 pages of .tiff files into my desktop printer icon and it prints about 2 pages/minute. That translates to 30 hours non-stop time without breaks or interruptions. These are legal docs I received from a respected local law firm I that I do business with and my job is to print them. I do not think think the firm is willing to pay for 30 hours of work and I would not feel justified in that charge. Sooo, the QUESTION: is there any Mac software that will sniff out the .tiff docs and send them to my high speed commercial digital copier and allow me to print the 3000 pages without having to open each tiff file separately to to print it. Or is this just another Mico$oft I got'cha. This print shop is totally Mac with no Windows PC's. I am using a DA 733 with OS 10.4.11 for this job, any suggestions? --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments
So I assume I am not selecting and saving the proper header text info for a graphic reader to open the file properly. If I drop the entire file into PS I still get the same message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker to ID the file as jpeg? --glen Save the file from the start of /9j/ to the end before the --NextPart--- etc. Bring up command prompt, and do: openssl base64 -d -in infile -out outfile And it will convert the file to an actual jpg from a base64 encoded attachment. Should do the trick! -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org OK, by infile I assume you mean something like /Users/userone/Desktop/attachment6a.txt without the brackets.? And outfile would be something like /Users/userone/Desktop/attachment6a.jpg without the brackets? And the commands are in Terminal? As you may perceive I am not an experienced Terminal user. But this is very good info and if I can get it right I may be very useful for future problems. Wow, great to now the Unix shells of OS X can do so much that most of us just don't know about. As far as this specific problem, I have found that an old version of Suffix Expander will sort through all the garbage and decode MOST of the base64 attachments (.pdf's and jpg's) -- but not ALL. The memorial program is on track to be printed on time and all the mission critical info is at hand. Thanks for all who replied: Graphic Converter --great program did not help in this odd circumstance. All who responded on of off list with the need to decode was correct. How to decode will be a good learning experience for me. I will pursue it. Great list! --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments
Perhaps there is a better list or forum for this problem but since I'm using a G4 733Mhz DA and OSX 4.11, I will try here first. The project is to print a memorial program for a fund raising event for a local HS student who tragically died after a seizure during an athletic event. Most of the graphics work is done but it would be good get access to a couple of JPEG's the client has sent -- apparently from a smart phone. All I received are files called Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can open them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox but not in PhotoShop or Illy. I can see all the headers and read the email tread if I ignore the HTML coding. Then I see to the file jpg or pdf . When I delete all the extraneous text and save as jpg or pdf --no go in PhotoShop even after adding the proper suffix (.jpg or .pdf) Also noted the files were encode in base 64, so on a lark a ran then through Stuffit Expander 12 and the .pdf files translated and are usable not so the JPEG files. Is there any way to extract these embedded JPEG files? I can see them in text mode. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments
- Original Message From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, glen wrote: Most of the graphics work is done but it would be good get access to a couple of JPEG's the client has sent -- apparently from a smart phone. Why do you believe they're .jpeg format? My guess is you've got some other format. All I received are files called Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can open them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox Can't you just drag 'n drop the individual photos from TextEdit or Firefox directly onto your desktop? Then open these desktop files with something like GraphicConverter or PhotoShop. Kris, If I delete all the extraneous email headers, HTML code and actual email messages I'm left with this: --_=_NextPart_006_01CC0431.20606A80-- --_=_NextPart_005_01CC0431.20606A80 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEZAAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAf/b AIQAAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQICAgICAgICAgIC AwMDAwMDAwMDAwEBAQEBAQECAQECAgIBAgIDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD AwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD/8AAEQgBWgIuAwERAAIRAQMRAf/EAMIAAQACAgMBAQEBAAA [Cut] this goop goes on for a number of MB's I did try saving the entire file as .jpg and opening in PhotoShop and I get the message: Could not open attachment6.jpeg because JPEG marker segment length is too short (file may be truncated or incomplete). So I assume I am not selecting and saving the proper header text info for a graphic reader to open the file properly. If I drop the entire file into PS I still get the same message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker to ID the file as jpeg? --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
On 13 Apr 2011, at 01:36, rumble wrote: i have os 9 classic on my g4 mdd (running 10.4.11) i managed to get some of my classic programs to my os 9 partition (namely pagemaker 6.5) and i can run pagemaker ok, but i can't get it to see my epson printer on the os x system. it doesn't show up in the chooser in os 9 and i can't seem to figure out how else to get it to see the printer using any networking or printr sharing in my os x prefs panels. can someone help me get this happening? thanks -- Hi I have the same problem, I select laserwriter in the chooser and then in the print menu I save as a PS File (If you are running classic in system 10 it will open in preview and print, exactly as your original layout). Have Fun Glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
- Original Message From: rumble rum...@metrocast.net To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 12:30:19 AM Subject: Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd i don't see save as pdf as an option in pm 6.5. In PM 6.5 you must export to PDF. Choose FileExportAdobe PDF, then save and print --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
- Original Message From: rumble rum...@metrocast.net i just tried exporting as a pdf, but pagemaker is asking me to select a postscript printer from the chooser (which i don't have) and i do not believe these (or any) newer inkjet printers include drivers for os 9. PM 6.5 will export directly from the file menu (file export Adobe PDF) if Acrobat Distiller is installed. Acrobat Distiller is installed as part of the PM 6.5 default (Easy Install option). If it is not installed you can install it from the PM 6.5 installation disk either directly from the Adobe Distiller 3.0 folder or by using custom install and just installing Adobe Distiller. Short of Distiller there is or used to be a free extensions, one called Acrobat™ PDFwriter 4.05 and another one called AdobePS 8.8.0 which may be still be available from Adobe download site. When one or both are installed they will show up in Chooser as printers. They reside in the OS 9 Extensions folder. I never had to use them to create a PDF from PM 6.5 For a test I just created a PDF from PM 6.5 while in 10.3.9. Classic mode on a G4 Sawtooth. I did not have to use Chooser. HTH --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Faxing from Mac - wanting Free Software other than built in
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu . At issue in many of these cases is an assured chain of physical handling: something sent via email can be intercepted and changed in transmission; a fax cannot. Well, sort of -- certainly in the electronic transmission of a document. My business includes a public fax service. I have seen some folks grab a bottle of whiteout and change the content of the legal documents they are faxing. So the document faxed is not the original but an edited copy. Is this legal? Don't know, I'm not in a position to judge. I have noticed over the past year or so my fax revenues have greatly increased due to real estate transactions, debt management issues and also court related legal problems. Some folks have spent more on faxes at my establishment than a new AIO machine from Stables would cost. But I do agree with Kris that the fax technology is on the way out but perhaps not for a few more years. Just my take --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New addition to my tool kit...
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu .. ...something everyone who works with computers should have in their kit... http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10622 I'm buying a bunch! Ahh, from what I read your investments in tetra-grammatron phase inductance focusing screen may up in smoke. But good luck --glen tetra-grammatron phase inductance focusing screen (TGPIFS for short) Through a proprietary procedure using our inverse tetra-grammatron phase inductance focusing screen (TGPIFS for short), we were able to easily resurrect any IC reliably. Simply place the phase ring of the TGPIFS directly over your IC, inject your smoke, and you're done! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard on an 800MHz eMac (ATI)? (... and stuff)
- Original Message From: iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com I was wondering if anything other than performance might go wrong if I moved her eMac to Leopard? Technically it doesn't meet the minimum requirement of 867MHz, but it's not very far off. So if the only concern is how well it might perform it seems like it's worth trying it to find out. I believe she's still running 10.3.9, Panther. I think she might be using Internet Explorer as her web browser over a dial up connection. (I'd love to move her to something faster than dial-up, but she can't really afford anything much beyond the $10/mo she's paying now for NetZero.) The main reason I expect to be messing with this eMac in a rather major way some day is because when I attempted to back up her drive last night with CCC, it was (1) unexpectedly slow and, more seriously, (2) there were drive read errors in the CCC log. So far the files the read errors occur on are nothing important. But I'm thinking the 8 year old Seagate ST340015A 40GB drive in this eMac is due to die. Probably sooner rather than later. Oh, almost forgot. I'm not sure if it is still using the original PRAM (?) battery or not. If so, that might also be on its last legs. If some day ... sure as heck not going to be THIS month, but if some day after I file my taxes I ever go inside the eMac to swap the hard drive, it probably would be prudent to replace the PRAM at the same time. Where do you folks go to buy those? About how much does a replacement battery usually cost? Why not just upgrade to Tiger and use Safari or Firefox for a browser? It should be faster on the eMac than Leopard. Does she have cable for TV? Some cable providers are providing internet access for $25 or less and some provide unlimited phone service for a few dollars more. So, check the combined cost of phone, TV and the $10 dial-up costs. It my be close to the current costs?? Check the HD for errors/repair with Disk Utility. If the replacement is needed -- good time to replace the PRAM battery if the voltage is low. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I honestly don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and Flash. It runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had and the 733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock hardware. A LOT of Youtube's content is now HD, which is the problem; people connect to a yourtube video and it runs like crap because a machine that old is just not capable of decoding HD flash video, particularly with the Flash browser plugin. I can watch Youtube stuff adequately on my 1.67 GHz AlBook, but only by downloading the video (in my case with CosmoPod) so I can play the video with Quicktime (flash requires the Perian plugin, but so does real life,. it's a must-have QT plugin for all mac users http://perian.org/ ) Like most have stated I have had no success with viewing streaming Youtube videos. My best Mac is a 733 MHz DA and in streaming Youtube there are long pauses with only a few seconds of play. However once the video is downloaded using only the Activity window in Safari it plays without a hiccup with the free MPEG Streamclip video player on the DA. Copying the same video over to a 400 Mhz BW it also plays without a hitch. I do have Perian installed but don't think Perian is needed with Streamclip. All the vids downloaded are 3-10 minutes long and not likely HD. I guess if the files were much longer or HD this may not be practical but perhaps a sort'a work-around for some old PPC Mac's? I don't view many Youtube vids just some favorite music that crops up from time to time. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When you really need to erase data...
- Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com I was reading this: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/datacenter/five-ways-to-intentionally-destroy-your-data/3848 and ended up watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTm36fcYCOc oh my. First shed it then smelt the remains. Pour the melt into a mold of Steve Jobs, or your favorite rock star or your favorite deity and sell it as an iStatue; or create a thinner mold suitable for framing. Great opportunity here :) --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!
- Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 2:26:27 PM Subject: Re: Apple Oompa Loompas! At 2:15 PM -0500 3/4/2011, Yersinia wrote: On 3/4/11 10:10 AM, Dan wrote: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948362 And make sure you CRANK up the volume for the singing Oompas! Hmmm, is this something which requires Leopard, Snow Leopard or an Intel Mac? All I got (G4 867 QS/Tiger 10.4.11/Safari 4.1.3), for as long as I was willing to put up with it (not long!) was a black screen and really annoying interrupted dialog. It plays ok on my 933 MHz QuickSilver, under Tiger. Took a little while to get going tho. The site seems to be under quite a load. - Dan. Plays just fine. Well, one small hiccup on my 450 MHz Smurf (an overclocked 400 MHz) with 896 MB of RAM. Much better than most YouTube stuff. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: best site to check values
- Original Message From: cdphoto ch...@cdphoto.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 5:32:19 PM Subject: best site to check values Hello, I'm new to the group. I'd love to get a link to the best site to check the value of a couple of older Macs that I own, specifically a Power PC 266MHz beige desktop. This unit is in working condition. And I still have the original CD plus cables. Any links, or interest in this machine is much appreciated. Welcome, Past auctions on ebay is good. -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Word list Generator???
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: I would like a generator to take Englosh and convert it to Pig Pen and allow me to print it since it takes forever to do it by hand. Anyone know of a program to do this. Pig Pen? The only ref I find in a cursory Google search is 'pigpen' or Masonic cipher. Here's a site that does it: http://www.purplehell.com/riddletools/pigpen.htm Or you can just get the font...one of many...type your message, select all, change the font, voila`. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/BabelStone-Pigpen-.shtml Pr possibly you mean Pig Latin? http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html I suspect Pig Latin, probably just a slip we old timers do from time to time. But then maybe the Grateful Dead? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8B_YY327Pk Pig Pen was a sorely missed band member. -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Awesome mod...
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Awesome mod... http://hackaday.com/2010/10/30/building-the-banana-jr-6000/ Super! Saw it on the Vintage List a day or two ago and it blew me away. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Calling Apple Script Experts
- Original Message From: Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I thought sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with Applescript. Oh well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to figure things out. On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote: I have a problem that I need some help with. The only help I can suggest is to find an Applescript group. Maybe someone on list can suggest a good one. I know they exist from my experience in the graphic arts industry. I remember posts for needs of scripts for a specific needs and know there is a great group or two out there that can help. I don't remember the name of the group(s). Search? --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
- Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys. I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted bandwidth when a link was all that was needed. But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay walking. So are the times. Good call, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com When you have done it all your life, make dos, work arounds, Goldberg and McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver headaches whether 'Nux or Winslowz. I am tired ... LOW END to me means poor. People too poor to afford new computers. People too poor to afford costly repairs. People too poor to listen to the more affluent dismiss their needs. Fear Apple? That is not the subject. Get it ? - Nah, The make do's is what what life is about. Since I done the do's all my life (not just computers) , I don't know what I would do without them. --Seriously consider it; they make life worthwhile. I have lost two loved one's during the last year (stroke and cancer) and going though that makes you really wonder what is important on this planet. OK fear Apple is a bad choice of words; don't care would have been better choice of words. As far poor goes, I just received my first meager SS check this month. Still wonder if I can pay the heating bills. I live in New England. Sorry if I set you off. I do appreciate your concerns. --glen PS rants are OK by me --well within reason. -- ;) -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Content with prettier eye candy sells ideas If you cannot keep up with the current style your content looks flaky and suspect. Think here of mimeographed political flyers when Xerox came out. The medium in itself is a semaphore subtexting and toning whatever it expresses. Rather than the democratizing effect that personal computers should have, if you cannot keep up financially your ability to put a message out is compromised. Your comments about the struggle on the street level I can well identify with. Steve jobs has lost touch with the needs of the masses he sought in the old days. Well, the mimeograph analogy is not the best but does serve a an example of waning technology. In the early 70's my political friends and I produced 2 3 color political flyers on a mimeograph. Xerox was a rather low quality black and white substitute at at that time. Even the Gestetner mimeo techs were amazed at what we could do with their machines and took samples of our work to their regional office. We were doing duotones on a mimeograph. It took Xerox another 30 years to get a decent color copier. --And we were hard pressed to buy food in those days. I guess the point, is that if we are creative enough we will find solutions to the latest technological advances we are faced with regardless of our budget (or lack of). I have no fear of Apple or any other corporate giant. Just deal with it!! --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just got my first apple desktop!
On Oct 5, 6:54 am, yolee yo...@hotmail.com wrote: I am contacting Apple because i am hoping they can help me figure out the specs on the CPUbecause I don't see anytihng anywhere. I am hoping they can give me that info by the serial/model number on the card and then start building! You might want to read this article, it is actually very easy to get specs and user manuals for Macs http://www.maclife.com/article/tip_day/search_apple%E2%80%99s_specifications_page_serial_number r I'm coming in a little late. If you are just trying to identify the G4 model these links may help: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3082 http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25585 They show the different port configurations on the various G4's --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hardware or Software Problem?
On 20 Sep 2010, at 22:59, Drew Anderson wrote: Hello All, I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press restart. in 4 or 5 languages. Is this an OS glitch? Hardware problem? Memory problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on my G4 iBook as well. G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core. OS 10.4.11 1.5 GB RAM Cheers, Drew Hello Drew Try restarting your machines with an installer disk in and running the Disk Utility.app and see what turns up. Have Fun Glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Happy birthday OS X!
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu 0:40 PM Subject: Happy birthday OS X! OSX is 10 years old today...September 13, 2000, the OS X 10.0 public beta was released... http://tinyurl.com/32a2ac7 Wow, times flies as the saying goes. Still have a 10.0x disc and the 10.1 upgrade! So many changes in my computing and my life in the last 10 years. Thanks Bruce, I need that fact --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ITunes 10
On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:35, Nikki Wraith wrote: It is an issue with how the version is listed. There is a plist edit that fixes it. Google will help you find the fix. Thank you, this was the fix I needed to get my alarm back again, I also used the feedback as suggested by Kris Tilford. Again thank you. Have Fun Glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list