Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-28 Thread Andy Coulson




It's the same in Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) -
Gutenprint is described as gimp-print version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. Note
that there is a seperate cupsys driver for it at the same version level

Matthias Julius wrote:

  Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
And still, when I select to print from within GIMP, it and click the 
button that says "About", it says I'm using "GIMP-Print 4.2".

So, as far as I can tell, I've done everything to install Gutenprint on 
my system, but GIMP isn't giving me any indication that it's using the 
latest Gutenprint drivers.

  
  
I don't know Ubuntu, but in Debian (which is similar) there is a
package called gimp-print which is at version 5.0.0-3 right now and
contains the print plugin for Gimp.  What version do you have
installed?

Matthias

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer? [SOLVED]

2007-02-27 Thread Dave M G
Matthias,

Thank you for responding.

In another thread, I was trying to be helpful to another user who was 
asking questions about GIMP-shop. I learned in that thread that 
GIMP-Shop is more than merely a skin or wrapper, but a different branch 
of development.

So it occurred to me that maybe the problem lay in that.

To make a long story short, after some web search, I found this, which 
solved the problem:
 
sudo cp /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print 
/usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print

Now, when I go to the print interface, and I click the About button, 
it says:

Gutenprint version 5.0.0 - 22 Jul 2006

Sweet.

My apologies to those who offered advice that might have been hindered 
by not knowing I was using GIMP-Shop. By not understanding exactly what 
GIMP-Shop was, I had neglected to consider its importance.

Now that I'm using Gutenprint, my images still aren't printing quite 
right. But, that is something I'll take directly to the Gutenprint team.

Thank you to everyone who participated in this thread to help me along, 
and to the GIMP mailing list in general for all its support.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:18 +0900, Dave M G wrote:

 And as I mentioned, I had already installed Gutenprint from within the 
 Ubuntu repositories.

You installed the Gutenprint printer drivers, but not the GIMP plug-in
that uses them.

 But just to be sure, I went to the Gutenprint project web page, and 
 downloaded their .tar files, and installed that anyway using the 
 ./configure and make install process as described in the instructions.

You should have read the instructions and enabled the GIMP plug-in.

 (Actually, my real question is, Why does GIMP, and only GIMP, need to 
 use an entirely different set of printer drivers all it's own when every 
 other application seems to be perfectly fine with the CUPS drivers that 
 came with my distribution of Linux?. But I'm biting my tongue on that. 
 All I care about is being able to print directly from GIMP.)

Because GIMP 2.2 predates the set of CUPS drivers that came with your
distribution. That's why you are encouraged to install a newer GIMP
plug-in. Due to the modular nature of GIMP this shouldn't be a problem.
The real question here is, why oh why doesn't your distribution do this
for you? That's a question that you should ask your distributor.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Matthias Julius
Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And still, when I select to print from within GIMP, it and click the 
 button that says About, it says I'm using GIMP-Print 4.2.

 So, as far as I can tell, I've done everything to install Gutenprint on 
 my system, but GIMP isn't giving me any indication that it's using the 
 latest Gutenprint drivers.

I don't know Ubuntu, but in Debian (which is similar) there is a
package called gimp-print which is at version 5.0.0-3 right now and
contains the print plugin for Gimp.  What version do you have
installed?

Matthias

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Toby Haynes
Dave M G wrote:

 So my question remains:

 How do I get GIMP to use the Gutenprint plug in that I have installed?

 (Actually, my real question is, Why does GIMP, and only GIMP, need to 
 use an entirely different set of printer drivers all it's own when every 
 other application seems to be perfectly fine with the CUPS drivers that 
 came with my distribution of Linux?. But I'm biting my tongue on that. 
 All I care about is being able to print directly from GIMP.)

   
Open System-Synaptic and search Names and Descriptions for 
Gutenprint. You should see, amongst the other entries, 
gimp-print-5.0.0-2ubuntu2 or similar. That is what you need to install.

Cheers,
Toby Haynes
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Dave M G
Toby, Sven, Matthias,

Thank you all for responding.

Toby Haynes wrote:
 Open System-Synaptic and search Names and Descriptions for 
 Gutenprint. You should see, amongst the other entries, 
 gimp-print-5.0.0-2ubuntu2 or similar. That is what you need to install.
What I have installed is: gimp-print 5.0.0-2ubuntu2, and it says:

print plugin for the GIMP
This package includes the Print plugin for the GIMP.
This is Gutenprint version 5.0.0, a stable release
in the 5.0 series.

And this has been installed from the beginning.

Sven Neumann wrote:

 You installed the Gutenprint printer drivers, but not the GIMP plug-in
 that uses them. ...
 You should have read the instructions and enabled the GIMP plug-in.
Can you please show me exactly what instructions you are referring to? I 
have seen nothing that says anything about how to enable the GIMP plug in.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-25 Thread Dave M G
Sven,

Thank you for responding.
 It uses whatever print plug-in you installed. If you want to use the
 gutenprint plug-in, then get the GIMP plug-in from the gutenprint
 project. I think I already mentioned that.
   
And as I mentioned, I had already installed Gutenprint from within the 
Ubuntu repositories.

But just to be sure, I went to the Gutenprint project web page, and 
downloaded their .tar files, and installed that anyway using the 
./configure and make install process as described in the instructions.

And still, when I select to print from within GIMP, it and click the 
button that says About, it says I'm using GIMP-Print 4.2.

So, as far as I can tell, I've done everything to install Gutenprint on 
my system, but GIMP isn't giving me any indication that it's using the 
latest Gutenprint drivers.

So my question remains:

How do I get GIMP to use the Gutenprint plug in that I have installed?

(Actually, my real question is, Why does GIMP, and only GIMP, need to 
use an entirely different set of printer drivers all it's own when every 
other application seems to be perfectly fine with the CUPS drivers that 
came with my distribution of Linux?. But I'm biting my tongue on that. 
All I care about is being able to print directly from GIMP.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-24 Thread Doug
Dave M G wrote:
 Akkana,

 Thanks for responding.
   
 ut the experts who would know for sure aren't here;
 they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list.
 

 No one on the GIMP mailing list knows how to make GIMP connect to the 
 right printer driver?
   
In the past I've moved my Gimp printer from gimp-print 4.2 to Turboprint 
and on to gutenprint 5.0 under Mandriva LE2005 (kernel 2.6.11-13); 
unfortunately I no longer remember the details, so that's no help.  If 
nobody else can help, I'll try to resurrect them for you.

In any case, I've got to set about installing  Gimp-gutenprint 5.0 on 
Mandriva 2007.0 (kernel 2.6.17-5), so maybe I'll find something useful 
in the process of doing that and report back.

snip
Doug
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 10:56 +0900, Dave M G wrote:

 It says I'm using Gimp-Print version 4.2.
 
 However, when I check Gimp-Print with apt-get/Synaptic, it says I have 
 version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. In the description of the package, it says This 
 is Gutenprint version 5.0.0, a stable release in the 5.0 series.
 
 I'm using Gimp 2.2.13, which should be recent and stable, and using 
 Gutenprint.

It uses whatever print plug-in you installed. If you want to use the
gutenprint plug-in, then get the GIMP plug-in from the gutenprint
project. I think I already mentioned that.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Dave M G
GIMP Users,

I don't quite understand how printer support in GIMP/Gutenprint is handled.

I have my Canon Pixus iP3100 printer installed and working fin with Linux.

However, that particular model is not listed in the list of supported 
printers within GIMP.

I hope this question won't offend advocates of GIMP by sounding 
accusatory, because I am sincerely just wondering: why would I need 
specific support within GIMP for my printer when the drivers I've 
installed for CUPS/Linux provide printer support for every other 
application?

I certainly don't intend to start any heated threads on the matter. My 
basic motivation for asking is because I am getting strange behavior 
when trying to print from within GIMP, and I'm trying to determine where 
the root of the problem is.

Sometimes when I send an image, the printer flashes it's indicator light 
to signify that it's receiving data, but then prints nothing.

A couple of times it did print something. One time it printed much too 
large to fit within a single A4 page, the other time it squeezed 
everything down to half an A4 page.

So, since my printer isn't listed as officially supported by GIMP, does 
that mean I can't use it to print from GIMP?

If it is possible, are there extra steps I can take to ensure correct 
printing behavior?

Thank you for any information or advice.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Lynch

I also have had a problem printing from Gimp.  I attempted to print an image
and for my efforts I received a floor full of paper, some completely blank,
others with a line of garbage at the top of the page.  I printed the same
image by displaying it in firefox and used its print feature.

I never investigated it any further since I did get my picture, but I
suspect someday I'll want to print directly from gimp so I'm very interested
in following this thread.

Jim.

On 2/23/07, Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


GIMP Users,

I don't quite understand how printer support in GIMP/Gutenprint is
handled.

I have my Canon Pixus iP3100 printer installed and working fin with Linux.

However, that particular model is not listed in the list of supported
printers within GIMP.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Lynch

I'll have to try again.  Since then I've changed from SuSE to Centos for
other reasons.

Jim.

On 2/23/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

it would help a lot of you would tell us what Print plug-in you are
using. If things don't work, the reason might be that you are using the
old gimp-print plug-in, while you should nowadays be using the GIMP
plug-in that comes with gutenprint 5.0.

If you have questions regarding the gutenprint plug-in, please ask them
on the gutenprint mailing-list.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Dave M G
Sven,

Thanks for responding.
 it would help a lot of you would tell us what Print plug-in you are
 using.   
It says I'm using Gimp-Print version 4.2.

However, when I check Gimp-Print with apt-get/Synaptic, it says I have 
version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. In the description of the package, it says This 
is Gutenprint version 5.0.0, a stable release in the 5.0 series.

I'm using Gimp 2.2.13, which should be recent and stable, and using 
Gutenprint.

I checked a little on the web, and the Gutenprint web site itself says 
You may install both Gimp-Print 4.2.7 and Gutenprint 5.0 concurrently 
and choose which to use. Okay... but I can't find how to do that.

I don't think I even want Gimp-Print version 4.2 on my system, but in 
any case, how and where do I get Gimp to use the Gutenprint 5.0 drivers 
which seem to be installed, and not the Gimp Print 4.2 drivers?

(On a side note, when I scan my installed packages, I don't even see 
Gimp-Print 4.2. It seems like I *only* have Gutenprint 5.0 installed. So 
why is GIMP saying, in the About button in the print interface) that 
I'm using 4.2?

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Akkana Peck
Dave M G writes:
 (On a side note, when I scan my installed packages, I don't even see 
 Gimp-Print 4.2. It seems like I *only* have Gutenprint 5.0 installed. So 
 why is GIMP saying, in the About button in the print interface) that 
 I'm using 4.2?

It might be that your GIMP is including an old gimp-print plug-in from
4.2, but the larger package which includes all the printer drivers
is Gutenprint. A little checking with dpkg -S, dpkg -L and aptitude
search might solve that mystery if you're on Ubuntu as your signature
suggests. (I'd check here for you, but I have gutenprint built from
source and have probably overwritten some of the original files.)

I think they're compatible (must be, if the distro installs them
that way) but the experts who would know for sure aren't here;
they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list.
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
They'd also be the ones who would know whether or not a particular
printer model is supported. Glance at the archives first (at that same
url) to see if anyone has talked about your printer model recently.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Dave M G
Akkana,

Thanks for responding.
 ut the experts who would know for sure aren't here;
 they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list.

No one on the GIMP mailing list knows how to make GIMP connect to the 
right printer driver?

Just to be clear here, my printer is working (with CUPS, anyway), and 
according to my repositories, I have Gutenprint 5.0 installed.

But GIMP is calling on Gimp-Print 4.2, and not showing any options to 
switch to Gutenprint 5.0.

Is it not therefore a GIMP issue?

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