Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop
Liam R E Quin writes: > On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:58 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > > wrote: > > > > > It is just broken. Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it > > refuses to change. > > I think you are saying that gimp is not saving tool options on exit? > > If so that's controlled by a setting in edit/preferences. Well, sort of. But that setting doesn't work the way it used to, and in some cases it doesn't work at all. First, "Save Tool Options Now" used to save the active tool, as well as the options for all the tools. Now it (both 2.10 and 2.99) always saves the active tool at exit, even if you have "save tool options at exit" un-checked and you've explicitly done a "save now" to set the tool you want selected whenever you start gimp. To see that, start with a fresh profile (rename your current one), then: Start gimp. Click on the Crop tool. Edit-Preferences Tool Options Click Save Tool Options now. Un-check "Save tool options on exit" (in 2.99 it's un-checked by default, in 2.10 it's checked by default). Dismiss Preferences Click on the Paintbrush tool. Exit gimp. Start gimp. The active tool is now Paintbrush, not Crop. With the gimp 2.10.22 from the Ubuntu repos, that I use for everyday gimping, I've had worse problems, where actual tool options, like the brush for Paintbrush and Fixed size or aspect for Crop, are also saved on exit even when the preference isn't checked. But I haven't been able to reproduce that with a fresh profile, or on 2.99, so I suspect some some strange interaction it's having with my existing configuration. That's why I never filed a bug on this even though it's been annoying me for at least a year. But the bit about not saving the active tool is reproducible with both 2.10 and 2.99, so I should probably file a bug on that part. In 2.8 and earlier 2.10 versions, the active tool was reliably saved when you clicked "save tool options now", and was never saved at exit if you un-checked the "save on exit" preference, and it's hard to imagine that anyone who would un-check that preference would want the active tool saved at exit. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] How to change colors of patterns
Dennis writes: > How do I change the shade/color of a pattern? There are lots of ways. The easiest first step is to use the Hue-Saturation dialog (or Hue-Chroma, if you prefer) and drag the sliders around, especially the Hue slider. If that doesn't do what you want, another way is: - make a new layer on top of your image - fill that layer with a solid color (now you'll only see the color, but your pattern is still there underneath) - In the Mode menu in the Layers dialog, go through the whole list one by one, setting the mode on the solid-color layer and seeing the effect on the image. (Hint: once you've clicked on the Mode menu once, it has focus and you can cycle rapidly through the modes by pressing the down- arrow key). Of course, the top layer doesn't have to be a solid color. You can paint different colors on it corresponding to different parts of your base image, so the same layer mode will turn different parts of the image different colors. You can get all kinds of surprising and interesting effects depending on how the top color combines with the bottom color in different layer modes. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] LED white christmas lights effect
dboland9 via gimp-user-list writes: > I plan to take some pictures of some Christmas poinsettias with pine branches > around the pot and think the picture would be better if there were white > (warm) LED lights in the picture. The problem is that the string needs to be > fairly short, and stores have sold out all Christmas lights. So, my next > option is to create them in GIMP. Anyone done this and can you offer a genera > procedure? I'm sure there are people better at this than I am, but I had a similar problem when I was making https://shallowsky.com/images/cards/squirrelcard.jpg and it was quite a few years ago, but as I recall, the steps were: - Get a photo of a single light. Erase the background so the image has just the light. - Add a fuzzy circle in a color that matches the light (new layer, ellipse select, feather edges, fill, then fiddle with the layer transparency) - Add a white speck in the middle where the light filament should be if the light in the photo wasn't on - Flatten this light image and make several copies of it at the right size to paste into your image - Use the Hue slider in Colors->Hue-Saturation to change the copies to other colors. - Paste copies of lights of different colors around the base image, and rotate each one semi-randomly. Then you need the wire connecting them. I don't know how to draw a realistic looking multi-stranded electrical wire, but you can make a strangely realistic looking string by playing with settings in the Smudge tool: try starting with a smudge rate of 100% and a hard-edged brush. It doesn't look like a real electrical cord, but at least it looks like a three-dimensional string instead of a line someone drew in a graphics app. Good luck, have fun! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Issues with text along path
Rick Strong writes: > Hi Akkana, > > Since you got text on a path to work, would you be so good as to outline the > steps doing it in point form? Here's what I did to test it: - Activate Path tool - Click in two places in the image to make a straight path - Drag from the middle of the path upward, so now I have a curved path - Activate Text tool (Now you can't see the path any more; if you want to see it, go to the Paths dock/tab and click the visibility icon on) - Click anywhere in the image to start a text layer. - Type some text, and adjust size until it's at a reasonable scale to go with the path I made - Layer->Text along Path And now I have a new path representing the text outline bent along the path I made. My GIMP now looks like this: https://shallowsky.com/tmp/text-along-path.jpg Of course this is just a path. If I wanted the text to be visible in an exported image, I'd have to stroke the path, or convert it to a selection and fill it. > Also, how can the text be placed (or moved to) any point on the outside or > inside of a circle? I don't know of any easy way to move it. Best to set up the path so that the text will start in the right place, and you'll probably have to fiddle with font size and try several times to get it to be just as long as the path. That's one of the ways in which Text Along Path is (as I said in my earlier posting) not the easiest plug-in to use. When I was doing a lot of CD labels and wanted a lot of circular text, I found Text Along Path way too much hassle and ended up writing a plug-in for circular text, in various languages: https://shallowsky.com/software/arclayer/ which is not as good, but it can bend any layer, not just text, and it's easier to use. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Issues with text along path
Kathy N via gimp-user-list writes: > I am trying to follow the instruction on the video was provided online. > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wq_A-jkWQE) > > I follow everything except I am having trouble with the top part that is not > aligned with the circle / text along path. Please see picture attachment. This list strips image attachments, so there's no way to know what problem you're describing. Can you upload the image somewhere? It might also help to describe the steps you're following and at which step the image doesn't look like you expect. Rick Strong writes: > I don't want to be discouraging but text on a path just doesn't work in GIMP > 2.10.18. The online Help doc is useless here. Text Along Path isn't the easiest GIMP function to use, but it works for me in 2.10.18. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Recommendation on GIMP
> On 2020-05-28 10:54 a.m., Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > > What if I told you that we don't keep any of that a secret and > > frequently write about it on the website as well as on Facebook and > > Twitter? Kevin Cozens writes: > I think you forgot to include the mailing list(s) as another source of the > information posted to the three locations you mention. I know I rarely look > at the website and I don't use Facebook or Twitter. The information should > be going out on the developer mailing list and occasionally on the user > list. That's a good point. I subscribe to the gimp.org RSS, so I see the announcements of major releases and all the cool new features ... and they always take me by surprise because I've usually not heard about any of it, even though I read the developer mailing list and am on IRC a lot too (but apparently not during hours when cool new features are most often being discussed). I'm definitely not criticizing: Alex does a great job of getting the word out, and I do see the release announcements in RSS, on the mailing list, and sometimes on Twitter. And I'd rather see developers spending time working on cool new features than worrying about writing posts describing what they're doing. Still, it would be pretty great to hear a little on the mailing list about what's in progress, if anyone has the time to do that ... and it might even whip up enthusiasm from potential contributors (wow, they're working on THAT now? That's a feature I really care about, maybe I can help!) ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Project Question
Doug asks: > > I have taken a series of photos > > laterally across the potential area. I now need to 'stitch' them together Liam R E Quin writes: > There are four steps, whichever program you use: > (1) combine all the images into one big image, e.g.one per layer (File- > >open as layers in gimp) > (2) correct for rotation and make obvious exposure corrections to the > photos - this is especially necessary if the lighting, focus, or camera > settings such as exposure time and aperture varied between shots at > all; > (3) determine known common points in each pair of pictures and move > them to connect at these points, using perspective and barrel distort > as needed > (4) correct colour casts, darkness etc between separate parts of the > joined-up image and crop away the uneven edges. (5) If the edges still don't match perfectly, use layer masks with black/white gradients to fade out the edges of adjacent images so each image blends into the next. > Hugin will do step 3, which is the hardest part. > The others, you can do in gimp. Hugin can be hard to use and doesn't work on every collection of photos, but when it works, it does an amazing job on steps 3 and 4 both. Definitely try it. And Doug: when googling for more info on this technique, "panorama" is a helpful search keyword. You should find lots of tutorials and examples if you include that in your search. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Using gimp-edit-copy / gimp-edit-paste
Griff writes: > # Select and copy 3x2 slice and paste into layer file > Panorama = gimp.image_list()[0] # Previously opened panoramic image > pdb.gimp_image_select_rectangle(Panorama, 0, X, Y, Width, Height) # select > rectangle > > If I try "pdb.gimp_edit_copy(Panorama)" I get the message "wrong parameter > type". I have tried a number of things but don't seem to be getting anywhere. gimp_edit_copy takes a drawable, not an image. Layers are drawables, so assuming your Panorama image only has one layer, try this: pdb.gimp_edit_copy(Panorama.layers[0]) Hope that helps! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] No text input in file open dialog
Jürgen Weber writes: > Working in Windows 10, I often select a file in Explorer, copy the file's > path to the clipboard and paste it into the file open dialog of an > application. I find it easier to navigate in Explorer than in file open > dialogs. > > In the Gimp file open dialog, there is not text input, so I cannot paste a > file name. Why is this so? At least on Linux, if you type '/', a text input appears at the top to let you type a file path, and you can paste into that. It's possible that the key you have to type on Windows is different, so if / doesn't work, try some other strings, maybe c: ? For shell users, another option is to go to a terminal and run gimp /path/to/file. It will open the file in your currently running GIMP rather than starting another GIMP. That's how I open 90% of images in GIMP: I can use shell autocomplete, I have control over which directory it starts in, and it's much faster and more effective than the current GTK File Open dialog. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?
Liam R E Quin writes: > Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list wrote: > > I think he's looking for a tool that allows him to enter a phrase > > and then display that in all available fonts > > Yes, use a font manager for that. Fontmatrix is the most featureful on > Linux probably (but has some extremely dubious features); there's also > a gtkfontmanager that's easier to use but does less. I used to need this a lot, and I found fontmatrix impenetrable and couldn't find anything else that really did what I wanted, so I wrote a little Python script, Fontasia, that also lets you group your fonts into groups you choose, like script, monospace, computer etc. http://shallowsky.com/software/fontasia/ https://github.com/akkana/scripts/blob/master/fontasia While inside GIMP, I use Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts as has already been mentioned, and use the down-arrow in that dialog to step through fonts. If I'm not sure, I'll use Duplicate Layer, turn off one of the duplicate layers then continue stepping through fonts with the later that's still visible, so I end up with several text layers showing the same text in different fonts. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] print business card
Wrenchman writes: > anyway I ran into a problem making mine own homemade business-cards, and that > is > that the front and the back do not perfectly overlap when printed. > > I'm trying to push everything a little bit by chance and then hoping for the > best, using a lot of draft paper, but it's still off by about 2 mm on the > print. > > I see one solution would be to make a larger bleeding area, as of now I have > zero bleeding area, but I would rather like to understand how to make a > perfect > overlap. Unfortunately that's usually a function of the printer. Even the professional business card printers usually require a fairly large bleed area, and once I saw that I felt less annoyed with my home printer for being inconsistent. > more specifically: Horizontally the overlap seems perfect; Vertically it's off > by 2 mm > > also I discovered that when you print the front and then turn the paper around > and put it back in the printer everything turns opposite so that what was > printed on the left side of the paper is now printed on the right side. The easiest way to solve this is to have a template file. For instance, you can put guides, both horizontal and vertical, where you expect the card images to be. Draw lines along the guides and print to check the alignment; repeat until they're where you want them, then turn off the layer with the lines, leaving only the guides, and save as businesscard-template.xcf. Then start with that when you're designing a new set of cards. I used to do that, but I found that my printer was so inconsistent about how it fed the paper that it lined up very differently each time. I decided it was easier just to make an image and send it to a printing service, with dimensions and bleed area as specified by the service; each company seems to use different values, so I need to make a template that's specific to a particular printing company. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] When black and white is not black and white
Liam R E Quin writes: > I don't know of any accessibility checkers for GIMP; there are > PhotoShop plugins. It'd be a good Google Summer of Code project I > suppose, if that's still going. I might even be able to drum up some > funding for work in the area, and/or technical resources. There's View->Display Filters, "Color Deficient Vision". That's just one type, and there are lots of different variants of color vision. I think I've seen other GIMP color filters but don't have a specific reference, but a web search of GIMP color-blind gets some hits that might lead to more filters. > Because of the differences in people's vision, I don't think it matters > which method is used to convert. +1. It's amazing how much color vision varies among people. We think "green" is an obvious concept that means the same thing to everyone, but even among people with "normal" vision, color perception varies tremendously. And think of Ansel Adams and all his work in the darkroom. There is no one "correct" black and white version of a scene; the art is in creating the one that shows what you want to show. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Advice on repairing photos
heretic03 writes: > Hi all, > > New user to the forum but in need of advice on how to repair some photos. > > Just got back from honeymoon and discovered the camera broken part way through > the trip and would like to try and recover some of the pictures. > > Here are a couple of links to some of the photos. > https://goo.gl/photos/K8sVazdmNExXef2H8 > https://goo.gl/photos/F2Ku8g6QuXXwDAqY8 > https://goo.gl/photos/YCqCsrMwvBPUK5gC9 > > I think the sensor in the camera what broke as anything with a lot of white > bleeds out to the pixels near by. I don't have anything to add to the good advice you've already gotten on techniques for fixing the photos. But it may not be a broken sensor. I once had a camera that mysteriously started producing images like that, even in videos (except in my case the color was green rather than magenta). It turned out I had somehow gotten my Canon into a mode called "Color Replace" (I probably hit the wrong button while exploring menus). Once I realized what had happened, I turned off Color Replace and the camera worked fine after that. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] removing originak paper texture from high res b scans
ordinarydream writes: > A) SHORT FORM QUERY: > > How to eliminate paper texture and pencil marks, but maintain the almost black > to completely black ink from drawing scans? Basically, it sounds like what you want is to make the almost-whites completely white, while keeping the almost-blacks unchanged. Right? A great trick for that is the Dodge/Burn tool. Use Dodge mode, Highlights, with a big brush size big, then brush over your entire image. Anything that's almost white will get whiter, but dark areas won't change at all. If you want it even whiter after the first pass, make a second pass. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] How do I use paintbrush on an image?
Ofnuts writes: > On 19/11/16 04:05, iGameHard wrote: > > I want to edit an image using a paintbrush, but for some reason it doesn't > > work. Can someone tell me why? > > > "It doesn't work" is vague. Several possible reasons: In addition to Ofnuts' excellent list, you might want to read this page, which has longer descriptions of some of the reasons painting on an image might not work: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-getting-unstuck.html ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?
Richard writes: > Oh, boy, THIS subject. Where my workflow is concerned this was the BIGGEST > breaking change GIMP ever made -- yes, even bigger than when 2.8 split Save > and Export. (And we remember all the complaints over that, right?) > > I am one of those where when I no-modifier click and drag a selection my > preferred action is to pick up those pixels and move them around (rather than > shifting the mask). It is ... a minimum of annoying that we have zero means > of configuring GIMP to match our workflow in this respect. Just so you hear from the other side ... For me, the new selection tools, where drag moved the selection mask (not its contents) was a huge win. I was forever frustrated at how hard it was to move a selection, especially with ellipse selections where you can't tell when you start dragging where the top left of the ellipse will end up. I remember always having to switch to the Move tool, change mode to "Move selection", drag, change modes back then change tools. I was fairly new then, so maybe there was an easier way via a modifier key that I just never discovered. I very seldom want to move the contents of the selection. I edit a lot of photos, and on a photo that just leaves a ragged white hole behind. In the rare event that I want to move just part of a transparent layer), it's easy, Select->Float (Shift-Ctrl-L). I'm not saying Richard is wrong -- I know he's not alone, I've heard enough people who miss the old behavior. Just that for me, the current UI is much better, and that it's a lot easier now to move the selection contents than it used to be to move the selection. If the default ever changes to float-and-move, please include an easy and discoverable way to move the selection mask without needing to change tools or tool options. > A second alternative would be to give the selection tools a sensitivity > threshold -- i.e. you must click and drag the cursor a minimum # of screen > pixels before the tool will start the drag action. I wonder if this could > have solved most of those accidental microadjustments people complained about > in GIMP 2.2 without introducing a breaking change In my case it had nothing to do with threshold; it was more the lack of an easy, intuitive way to move the mask. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Smart Separate Sharpen
> On 08/06/2016 07:33 PM, Alan Huntley wrote: > > Just downloaded and installed this script from the GIMP Plugin Registry, > > but I can't seem to find it on any menu. Can anybody tell me where I should > > find it listed? Steve Kinney writes: > In the past I have found the menu locations of scripts by opening them > up with a text editor and hunting it down there. Or use Help->Plug-in Browser, assuming you can guess something about what name the plug-in uses in the menus. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
Gene Heskett writes: > Greetings everybody; > > I just went to add some text to some pix I just shot to be followed by > moving the edited copies to my web page. > > But I opened the first one in gimp, clicked on the A to get the text > entry box, and no box appears. Are you clicking on the canvas after clicking on the A? The A just makes the text tool active; you have to click in the canvas to create a new text layer (and set its initial position). ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Space 49 small images around a circle?
billlee writes: > I'm designing the image to print on a CD. > > In this image, I'd like to arrange 49 copies of a small image evenly around a > circle. In addition to the suggestions already made, you could try my arclayer script: http://shallowsky.com/software/arclayer/ after making a layer consisting of lots of copies of the image spaced out appropriately. I'm not sure it would be much easier than rotating them separately, though, since you'd have to figure out how much to space them out vs. what radius to use. See also the "Related GIMP functions" section of the arclayer page for some built-in functions you could try (e.g. Polar Coordinates) but I never had much luck with them, or I wouldn't have needed arclayer. I haven't used arclayer myself in years -- I stopped making CD labels when I found out how much they reduced a CD's life, and then I stopped using CDs altogether -- so let me know if it needs updating or gives deprecation warnings. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with color of several shades
SArtino writes: > I suggested painting the wood edges to a bright > green because we make no blend that contains green, sowe can use a single > photo > of one brick wall, and change the color of the green mortar joint to > whatever. > 1 photo of each wall blend, edit 20 different mortar colors. Sounds like a > simple idea right? > * > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/242/original/IMG_20160413_133407.jpg This was a week ago so it may be moot by now, but since I didn't see any other replies: one thing you can try is different settings of Select by: in the Tool options for Select by Color. You could try either Hue (since the mortar is greener than everything else), Saturation (since the brick color isn't saturated but the mortar is) or Green. Don't forget that Select by Color lets you drag to adjust how much is selected: up/left to select less, down/right to select more. It looks to me like with that image, Green isn't working at all but Hue and Saturation both work a lot better than the default of Composite. You'll still need to clean up your selection after making it, either by copying it to a layer mask or by editing it in the quickmask. Use Levels to threshold it (Threshold handles only black and white so you get hard edges; adjusting the middle slider in Levels usually gives a better result, with gradual edges). You might also want to use Dilate, Erode and Blur, and maybe paint over a few areas that didn't work out quite right. Good luck! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Unable to set font in GIMP 2.8.14
> On 03/27/2016 03:48 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > > I have tried to resume the project, using GIMP 2.8.14, running on > > UbuntuMATE 15.10, and, whatever I do, I am now not able to set the > > font for text to be entered. Steve Kinney writes: > The on-canvas text editor works /very/ differently from the earlier > "in its own box" text editor. The first thing I would try is > opening the image, selecting the text layer I want to work on, > activate the Text tool, and click on the text to bring up the > on-canvas editor. Then /select/ all the text with the mouse, then > /change/ the font name in the small on-canvas control box. Or go to Tool Options for the text tool and check "Use editor". Then you'll get a dialog like older GIMPs used that lets you edit text without selecting it, and you can change the font in Tool Options as in older versions. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems creating layer masks
> > dereksalt1...@gmail.com writes: > > I hope that you can help me. For a long time I have been trying to make > > layer masks of fine details, such as leafless trees full of twigs, using > > Gimp 2.8. I can make what looks like a perfect black and white image for > > the mask but when I apply it to the photo all the twigs come out with a > > white halo around them. I have tried selecting the image, growing, > > shrinking, and feathering it, the copying and pasting but nothing works. > > Working on solid areas such as a building gives no problems. Richard writes: > Not quite sure what you're trying to do based on this description but let's > see ... is it safe to assume that the object you're trying to mask was > originally shot against some kind of white backdrop? Then the white "halos" > you see are pixels that are originally some mix (think alpha blending) of > foreground and background, and GIMP has no way of automatically 'knowing' > what the original, non-blended color of that pixel was supposed to be. > > So you'll probably need to do something along the lines of a color-to-alpha > transition. [more suggestions snipped] The problem may boil down to that phrase "a perfect black and white image." If you really mean black and white, not greyscale, then that's the problem. A layer mask for photographic detail almost always needs to fade from black to white to look reasonable, for the reason Richard gives: real-world photos don't have hard boundaries where one pixel is the leaf and the one next to it is the sky. There's always a bit of fade from one to the next. So instead of using, for example, Threshold, try using Levels and using the middle slider to get something that looks almost like a black-and-white threshold, but includes a little bit of grey at the boundaries. If you're using something other than Threshold to get that black and white, adjust accordingly. If you're already using greyscale and didn't really mean black and white, then ignore that advice: but in that case, it might help to post a sample image and mask, and details of how you're generating the mask. Good luck! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] opening 2.9.3 file in 2.8.14 (NOT)
Michael Natterer writes: > On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 22:56 +0100, Jernej Simončič wrote: > > I've seen that, but what I specifically meant was a File -> Export > > option > > that writes XCF compatible with older GIMP versions, possibly losing > > data > > in the process (which is why it'd be Export, not Save). > > I keep wondering why we would want that at all. > > - as soon as we have 2.10, every older version is obsolete, > it's not like one would have to buy 2.10 and must stick > with 2.8 because it's not affordable > > So why bother with compat saving at all? No one has to stick with 2.8 for cost reasons. But most people, at least on Linux, will have to upgrade their OS to get all the libraries needed to run the new GIMP. Historically, it can take six months or longer after a release before most Linux users can run the new GIMP version, and a few users (on "stable" releases) may wait a lot longer than that. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] opening 2.9.3 file in 2.8.14 (NOT)
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Derek Mortimer wrote: > > > Moving on to a new format gives significant advantages, but if it makes > > obsolete valid and useful past work, isn't that somewhat arrogant to tell > > users that past work is out of date and cannot be opened in the new version > > of GIMP? > > We are not even discussing opening older files in newer version sof > GIMP. We are talking about completely opposite thing: opening newer > GIMP files in ol versions of GIMP. Also, I had the exact same problem with OpenOffice, years ago, that we're talking about with GIMP: newer versions of OO would save .odt that older OO versions couldn't read. I can only assume that's still true of LibreOffice since I don't see any compatibility options for older ODT in the Save As menu. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Greeting card
MrBryant71 writes: > Hello everyone! I was wondering if any of my fellow gimp user can tell me how > to > create greeting cards using gimp 2.8? Thank you in advance! I wrote a greeting card tutorial back in 2009: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6925/1/ Old, but I don't think much has changed. The important points are: 1. Make a canvas the size of your printed sheet -- US Letter or A9 or whatever; then think about how the paper will be folded, and put your image on the correct half. 2. Make sure you understand the difference between pixel resolution and print size, so you don't start with a small image that's going to be fuzzy when you print it. The rest is just up to your creativity and GIMP skills. Have fun! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] opening 2.9.3 file in 2.8.14 (NOT)
> scott092707 (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote: > > Will this always happen, if I try to open a file saved in an earlier-vintage > > GIMP? Simon Budig writes: > No, this will not always happen, just when you use features that are not > available in the older gimp version - e.g. high precision pixel formats. If I load a JPEG into git master built a few days ago, make no changes and immediately save as XCF, then exit and try to open that XCF in GIMP 2.8, it fails: "Opening '/tmp/can7795-scale.xcf' failed: XCF error: unsupported XCF file version 8 encountered" It would be great if the files were incompatible only if you use new features that the old XCF doesn't support, as Simon says; but so far, it seems XCFs saved by 2.9 are never compatible with 2.8. I've wished many times for a way to save "old XCF" format. I've been using 2.9 for most of my GIMPing, but there are a few images I'd like to be able to share with other people or edit on machines that don't have the libraries needed for 2.9. I try to remember to edit those images only with 2.8, but I forget, and once they've been saved with 2.9 even once they're forever out of reach of 2.8. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query
Neal Weissman writes: > What's the difference between a viewer and a converter? An image viewer is something you use to view a lot of images -- what you're trying to do with this book. (Though why anyone would distribute a book in as a bunch of jp2 images is beyond me.) An image converter sounds like something that converts from one format to the other. For instance, if you used ImageMagick to convert all those jp2 files to JPEG or PNG. GIMP is an image editor, for creating new images or making changes to existing ones. It's cumbersome to use for viewing a long sequence of images one after the other because that's not what it was designed for. If you wanted to take a few of those images and change the color of the pages, or add drop shadows on the text and flowers around the border, GIMP would be your tool of choice. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Removing a vertical strip
Timothy Murphy writes: > I want to remove a vertical strip from a photo, > and join the remaining two parts together. > I'd be very grateful if some kind soul could tell me how to do this. > > I assume I should be using the guillotine tool. > I have looked at the basic tutorials, > but have not seen any explicit examples of doing what I need. > > I did look briefly at the slice plugin, > but could not see how to download and install it on my laptop. I'm guessing by "remove a vertical strip", you mean that you want that part gone and the resulting image narrower by the width of the strip. That's something I need to do every now and then in GIMP, and the way to do it isn't all that obvious. Probably the simplest way is this (still quite a few steps): 1. Make a rectangular selection of the part of the image to the right of your strip. In other words, the selection should go from the rightmost part of the strip you want to delete to the right edge of the image; and from the top of the image to the bottom of it. 2. Edit->Cut. 3. Get rid of your selection: Select->None. 4. Paste the part you cut: Edit->Paste. 5. Drag the bit you just pasted until it's where you want it: the left edge of the pasted part will match the left edge of the strip you wanted to remove. While you're dragging it can be fiddly to keep the top and bottom edges even with the image. View->Snap to Canvas Edges helps with that. 6. When you're happy with where the pasted layer is, Layer->Anchor layer. 7. Image->Zealous crop. (Or Image->Autocrop if you have transparency.) That's a lot of steps for a simple operation, and since I've needed it quite a few times, I wrote a Python plug-in to automate it: https://github.com/akkana/gimp-plugins/blob/master/cutout.py With the plug-in, you make a selection of the horizontal or vertical slice you want to cut out: of course, the selection must either span the whole height or the whole width of the image. Then run: Filters->Distorts->Cut out selected band. If you download cutout.py, on that github page you'll need to click on "Raw" first and download that. Then follow the instructions on one of these pages (whichever one you prefer) to install the plug-in: http://blog.meetthegimp.org/how-to-install-python-plugins-under-gimp/ http://registry.gimp.org/node/24703 ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
George M writes: Lol, nope not a friend of the Devs, but I wouldn't mind being one ;) I think you are now. :-) I've used several graphics apps in the past. One of the most notable was Paint Shop Pro. Which I actually really liked. Before Corel got their claws on it, it was a really good program. I also started with early Paintshop Pro. I quite liked it, but I never did anything complex with it, mostly just crop/scale/brightness/ contrast. I didn't delve into anything harder until I'd switched to GIMP. I only used Photoshop a little and found it baffling. (I confess I found GIMP a bit challenging at first too, but it was easier than Photoshop.) But that was a long time ago, before I switched to full-time Linux. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] How to reduce image file size while retaining width/height of image?
Ofnuts writes: On 11/07/15 00:17, Steve Kinney wrote: Depending on the image content, GIF files may be noticeably larger or smaller than equivalent JPG files. PNG files will usually be substantially larger than either. For screenshots(*) and lost CGI, PNG is usually significantly smaller than either GIF or JPEG. And you cannot reduce the quality too much on JPEGs for images with hard edges such as screenshots. (*) unless of course the screenshot contains a photo... I recommend everyone test this out for themselves. I find my screenshots are usually much larger in PNG, but it depends on what sorts of windows you shoot. In my case it's usually browser or GIMP windows. Of course, if you need to edit the screenshot before passing it on (e.g. adding arrows or annotations) then PNG is better since it's non-lossy. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] How to reduce image file size while retaining width/height of image?
rhimbo writes: I would like to reduce the file size of an image. But I would like to retain the width/height dimension. Basically, I frequently need to do this to post images of screen grabs to forums when I have a question and want to show the important elements. I've found the Tools - Transform Tools - Scale. For what you're doing, it's usually easier to use Image-Scale Image... rather than the Scale tool. By default, if you change Width, the Height will change automatically, keeping the aspect ratio (that's the term for that width/height ratio) the same. The Scale tool is for when you need to adjust the size of a layer interactively, maybe to match something else in the image; you don't know beforehand how big you want the layer to end up. If you prefer using that to Image-Scale Image..., you can set it to keep the aspect ratio the same by checking Keep Aspect in the tool options dialog, or by holding the Ctrl key down as you drag. Scale Image: http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-image-scale.html Scale Tool: http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-tool-scale.html ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 on Linux - Image/wallpaper resizing
Michael asked: I have a long list of images (wallpapers/backgrounds). Just for the sack of argument, let's say that I have 500 images. Can I perform a bulk image resizing by selecting all the images and have Gimp perform a resizing? Pat David writes: This is a task likely better suited to a different tool, such as Imagemagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/) convert or mogrify. I agree on ImageMagick and use it a lot (usually inside other scripts), but for cases where you want to use GIMP, use David's Batch Processor: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html It works very well for cases like you describe. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Layer masks
Dede1943 writes: The video ( ), if I understand it correctly, instructs one to: 1.Open the image. 2.Make a back up copy in layers. a. (since the second layer automatically adds a Alph Channel, I did not add one) 3.Select and activate the copy and add the Layer Mask. 4.Make sure the Layer Mask icon is highlighted and activated in the Layer dialog. 5.Select the paintbrush making sure that Black is selected as the Foreground color. 6.Brushing along any area of the image to select it should reveal the transparency layer but does not. I can see the black lines, I'm drawing on the center image on the Layer Mask icon in the Layers dialog, which is white. I haven't watched the video (I'm on a slow connection right now); but from those steps, it sounds like you have two identical layers, one above the other, and you're painting on the layer mask of the upper layer to make some of that layer transparent. But if the layer underneath it is another copy of the same layer, painting on the layer mask won't have any visible effect. You're making the layer invisible to see through it to a layer that looks identical. When I use layer masks in this way, I add a few steps between your steps 2 and 3: 2.1. Hide the original layer, so I'm working on the backup. 2.2. Create a new layer -- I tend to use a solid, garish color like magenta or bright green, something that will contrast a lot with the layer I'm masking. 2.3. Move the new sold-color layer to the bottom of the stack. You don't have to create the solid color layer (steps 2.2 and 2.3 are optional), but it makes it a lot easier to tell whether you've erased completely. Now proceed with creating the layer mask and painting on it, and you should see parts of the magenta (or whatever) layer appear. When you're happy with your layer mask, you can hide or delete the solid-color layer. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6's Clipboard Brush - disable possible?
On 13.11.2014 18:04, DrNicket wrote: The reason for wanting to disable this feature, is because it is forced it on us. If I just want to use the brush, every time I had something copied, I have to change the brush back. It's bloody annoying when I use it a lot and Michael Schumacher writes: What steps does this add? There doesn't seem to be anything that gets in the way of most other users, and this message won't have a lot of context for them, either (you should quote the important parts of the original message properly). I don't know what the original message was. But a few months ago (in git master) I somehow got into a situation where the clipboard brush somehow became my default brush, even though I hadn't deliberately used it for a while. Then I'd try to draw or erase something and it wouldn't work right (because the brush wasn't what I expected). I'm still not sure how I got into this situation -- possibly a problem with profile migration? -- but I got out of it by setting the brush to my preferred default (the one that's called Square but is actually round) then going to Preferences, Tool Options, Revert Saved Tool Options to Default Values. I wonder if DrNicket somehow hit the same problem. I certainly wouldn't want to disable the clipboard brush -- it's a great feature. But having it magically become my default brush was definitely confusing. I wish I could have figured out how it happened. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Plugin for the 2.8 save vs. export behavior
On Friday 10 Oct 2014 10:38:52 Bob Long wrote: http://www.shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/ Maurice writes: Thank you, Bob. I've at last got round to installing that plug-in. However, although that web page says: It will show up in your File menu as Save-export clean, probably right under Save a copy. - here (on Linux Mageia-4) all I can see is overwrite (with the 'w' underlined. Overwrite is built into GIMP 2.8, not related to Save-export clean. Perhaps you forgot to make the plug-in executable? However: I've been meaning to announce a much more flexible save plug-in, Saver, which I've been using myself for nearly a year. I've added a description of it and links to it on that same gimp-save page Bob mentioned. Saver gives you the option of a Saver as... dialog so you can save/export to different filenames, and it also lets you save as XCF and at the same time, export a JPG, possibly scaled down; I've found that useful when building images for the web. No warranty or guarantee implied, but for people who find themselves bugged by the Save/Export split, this may be a workable solution. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image
On 17/lug/2014, at 10:31, Ofnuts ofn...@laposte.net wrote: Actually in many tools, right after you have made your selection, you can depress Alt+Control and drag the selected part to a new location. But... you need a strong hand because you cannot adjust the position On 17/07/14 10:49, Maurizio Loreti wrote: In case like this, you can drag your selection using the arrow keys (that move one pixel at a time) if you need a stronger control... Ofnuts writes: Doesn't work for me... this doesn't work exactly like the Move tool it seems. It works for me only if I switch to the Move tool. So: - Make selection with rect select (or whatever)o - Ctrl-Alt-Drag the selection (this automatically makes a floating layer of it). - Switch to the Move tool (the floating layer is still there). - Adjust position with arrow keys. Out of curiosity, why do you need to move something and leave a hole where it used to be? I know a lot of people want it, and I've always been curious what they're editing that makes this a useful operation. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] ufraw/lensfun
Maurizio Loreti writes: I have tried do download the last versions from the lensfun distribution, now hosted on sourceforge; under the URL http://sourceforge.net/p/lensfun/code/ci/master/tree/data/db/ there are three files canon-related, named compact-canon.xml, slr-canon.xml and mil-canon.xml. Patrick Shanahan writes: AND, the barf you see is because you have not copied xml files. afaik, there is no element html! in any of the lensfun xml files. I just grepped my entire lensfun install and there is no html appearing in *any* xml file. Could this be because of Sourceforge's charming habit of giving you an HTML download page when you click on Download for a file, instead of taking you straight to the file you asked for? I've downloaded HTML files more than once, because I chose Save link as instead of remembering that with sourceforge, you have to click, view the download page and only then can you Save as. Always check files after you download them to make sure you got the file you thought you were getting. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] greek letters
Gary Aitken writes: It works two different ways on this windoze box (can't test on my fbsd box as I'm rebuilding world now). 1. Release the ctrl and shift after typing 'u'. Then hit enter after all the hex chars are in. 2. Keep ctrl and shift down until done with hex chars; releasing ctrlshift completes the sequence Does the problem exist with both methods? No, only with the second one. The first method works and allows me to enter an alpha. (Can't speak for the original poster.) ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] greek letters
Liam R E Quin writes: Are you using Linux? What is your locale setting? I can't type an alpha either, on Debian Sid, UTF-8, libgtk2 2.24.23-1, git master gimp from a few days ago. [fixed version, sorry!] For me, using the Gimp on-canvas text tool, hold down control and keep it pressed hold down shift and keep it pressed press u and let it go (keeping control and shift pressed) press 3 and let go press b and let go press 1 and let go let go of control and shift will insert a lower-case Greek letter alpha (α). When I try that, it works up to the b (as soon as I type the u a little window pops up and subsequent digits go there), but it refuses to accept either b or c -- it simply does nothing for those letters, and nothing appears in the little IM window. It will accept digits 0-7 and 9 and a, d, e or f but not 8, b or c. gnome-terminal behaves the same way. We discussed it on IRC and Liam wondered whether I had some other binding for ctrl-shift-b and c and ctrl-shift-8 -- it's possible, but if so I don't know about it and they don't do anything I can see. I can't find any such bindings in my window manager. If I right-click in a gtk text entry and look at the Input Methods submenu, the one that's active is System (Simple). I'd be curious whether Gimppimpf is seeing the same thing, with some characters working but not b, c or 8. I also had trouble pasting an alpha: I tried selecting one in a browser, but middleclick paste doesn't work in gimp's new text tool. In Firefox I was able to ctrl-C and then ctrl-V it into gimp, but that wouldn't work everywhere -- not all apps have a way to copy to the clipboard. I filed a bug (730315) on not being able to paste the primary X selection. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CD label help
Alexmac writes: Im using Gimp 2.8 and im looking to make CD labels that i can stick onto a circular CD, the thing is i cant find a template in my GIMP software. Has anyone got any tutorials and how do do this, do i need to import a template or something? I used to do a lot of that, and wrote some scripts to help with it: http://shallowsky.com/software/cdplugins/ and a more general version that uses the glabels database to generate templates from Avery or similar label codes: http://shallowsky.com/software/gimplabels/ Disclaimer: You may get deprecation warnings or other problems -- I haven't used these scripts in years, partly because I stopped using CD labels after I lost some important backup data due to trusting labeled CDs (turns out the adhesive on CD labels makes the CD degrade faster, and I had CDs less than two years old which were completely unreadable) and partly because GIMP's current print plug-in and my HP printer don't cooperate very well on alignment. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
This is such a common task, there may be cause to have a Resize option bundled with the Export command. Having to always perform them as two separate steps is an annoyance, but the possibility of accidentally saving the wrong resolution back to the XCF file is a danger. First, I'm so glad to see we finally understand what Helen meant in this thread! And yes, I've had this issue too, where I want to work on a large-size original, save that as XCF, but expert to a different size for the web. I'm forever afraid that when I scale and export, I'll forget to undo the scale afterward and accidentally overwrite the scaled-down XCF. (That's not a new issue with 2.8.) But that got me thinking about a better workflow for this. Have you ever worked on an image and made a new view zoomed way out so you could guess what the image would look like when reduced to a thumbnail size? Imagine this: you have your original image open, which you've been saving to filename.xcf.gz. You create a second view, except unlike existing views, it can have operations and its own export filename tied to it. Create the view and scale it to 640x480, and export to filename-640.jpg. Back in the original window, if you export it still goes to filename.jpg (or whatever you exported to previously). Now make a change to the original; the second view automatically mirrors the change (just like the views we have now) but also applies the Scale operation and any other operations that have been done in that window. You could even create a third view where you scale to 64x48 and export to filename-thumb.jpg, and all three would update when you changed the original. Or a view that converts to indexed mode, or inverts the colors, or even adds a text or annotation layer. I'm not sure if this workflow fits into the GIMP product vision or not. But if the GIMP team liked the idea, it might not be too hard to implement alongside the non-destructive op changes that have often been discussed. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Enhancing a carbon
Leonard Evens writes: My wife was involved in an auto accident, and the police gave her a copy of their report. It is essentially a carbon of the original. The text they entered is very hard to read, and I was hoping to enhance it so I can send a copy to our insurance company which they can read. So far, nothing I've tried, such as curves, contrast, etc, has done much good. Does anyone have any suggestions about what I should try? Sometimes it helps to stack multiple copies of the layer and play with layer modes. Duplicate the layer in the Layers dialog, then set the top layer to different layer modes -- for instance, Multiply might help, or Burn, but try all of them to see what happens. If that helps, but not enough, do it again: make a duplicate of the top layer (so you have three layers now). Try it in the same mode as you used for the second layer, and also try other modes -- experiment. If nothing else, it's fun seeing what happens. :-) Sometimes if the scan is really too light (areas of white or light grey that should have been black text), it can help to apply a Blur on one of the top layers, or to shift it a few pixels in one direction or another; in that case a mode like Darken Only might help. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
Oon-Ee Ng writes: Thousands? In all the time I've followed this list I've seen maybe a dozen threads. I believe all of them have your replies in there. Trying to count the number of complainants, I estimate probably one or two dozen as well. In case people are curious: I've been saving posts on this topic since the beginning. Initially I was curious how the weight of opinion would balance out, and once I got started I just kept saving them. My count isn't exact: I didn't save messages I judged to be too far off topic (like the recent Excel discussion), but that's an opinion call; and my archive also includes email and blog comments I've received regarding my save-export-clean plug-in, so it has a few messages that haven't appeared on these lists. The current count is 1414, not including this message. I never tried to classify individual messages as for or against the change, so I have no counts for that. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Error with Fedora 18 Gimp 28
Liam R E Quin writes: On Sat, 2013-06-08 at 06:23 -0300, sergelli Ubatumirim wrote: I use kernel 3.9.4-200. Fedora fc18.i686 and Gimp 2.8.4.3 from my distribuition repositories After running Gimp on the command line, a list of errors appears --- Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf, line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. You can get rid of this error by editing /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf and removing the depracated=yes attributes (be careful, and test this immediately, a syntax error in this file will make your system unhappy). Ubuntu has this problem too, and I got rid of it by moving ~/.fonts.conf to ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf No need to edit a system file. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Tear off menu bug + work-around
Steve Kinney writes: The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms. [ ... ] I could not find a real fix for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed. Thank you! I've really missed the tear-offs -- they haven't worked for me since 2.6 came out -- and that will help. Ofnuts wrote: Working fine for me (2.6.8 on Kubuntu 10.04) Steve Kinney writes: Looks like it's not a common problem after all. I guess I have Are you on Ubuntu? A discussion on #gimp a few weeks ago suggested that it was a problem with Ubuntu's GTK patches. And indeed, when I tried it on a non-Ubuntu system, tear-offs worked fine. They've failed for me on at least three different Ubuntu releases, maybe as many as five. Though it works for Ofnuts on Kubuntu, so it's not ALL Ubuntus ... I haven't had a chance since the discussion to try building a vanilla GTK on my Pangolin system to see if that cures the problem. Anyway, broken tear-offs are super annoying, have been a problem for years, and although I still wish for a real fix, your workaround is very helpful. Thanks! ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] trial fit new colours on car picture
I'd add one suggestion to Steve Kinney's excellent layer mask tutorial: Once you have the car layer masked off, and you've dropped or painted a new color onto the masked layer, try using layer modes (the option menu in the Layers dialog) on the color layer. When you drop a solid color, it won't look right at first, because it won't have any shading or reflections. Layer modes let you combine a solid color (or gradients, or stripes or other patterns) with the lighting from the original photo so it looks a lot more real. Color mode is the most obvious, but step through each layer mode in turn (you can use down-arrow once you've clicked on the Mode menu) to compare the effects. Some of the modes, like Difference or Overlay, can give you fancy pearl effects that look great on cars. When I give GIMP talks I almost always demonstrate car colorizing (and I have a section about it in chapter 10 of _Beginning_GIMP_) because the results are so impressive. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Request] Do not confirm closing if unsaved image was exported/overwrited ?
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 11:00 -0700, Akkana Peck wrote: Why does exporting an image mark it dirty even if it's been saved as XCF? Michael Natterer writes: Perhaps consider the possibility that something is broken? After some experimentation and suggestions from Mitch, it turned out that it's because I had Preview on in my saved JPEG options. That causes a parasite to be attached to the image, as well as various other changes, when exporting to JPEG ... which marks the image dirty. Mitch said the only solution, for now, is to disable JPEG Preview, because it's implemented as an utter hack. Which I'll do, since the preview has several other problems too. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Request] Do not confirm closing if unsaved image was exported/overwrited ?
Liam R E Quin writes: On Fri, 2012-09-14 at 00:34 +, minhsien0330 wrote: Dear developers: Can we have a new option Do not confirm closing if unsaved image was exported/overwrited ? It would defeat the purpose of moving Save to Export - that of avoiding accidental work loss. Accidental work loss is the main reason I dislike the new model. I don't much mind the Save vs. Export split, or remembering when I need to type Ctrl-E vs. Ctrl-S -- but it's frustrating that I no longer have any way to tell whether all my JPGs have been sav^H^H^Hexported and therefore it's safe to quit GIMP. With the 2.8 model I actually have more risk of work loss, not less. When I wrote Save/export clean, I wrote it for other people and didn't really plan to use it myself -- I wanted to adapt to the new model -- but I find I do use it, for that reason. I would like to be told exactly *what* I'm about to lose, since even xcf is lossy (does not store undo history or active fonts, for example). That would solve the problem for me. I wouldn't mind so much getting the warning dialog when I quit if it gave me some way to tell whether all the JPGs have been safely exported. Especially if it grouped the neither-saved-nor-exported images first, so I could notice them without scrolling through every image touched during the session. The compromise is to be told whether I've exported each image when I to go to close it, and in what format and with what filename. I've been told 2.8.1 does this. Maybe 2.8.3? 2.8.2 doesn't do that, just: There is one image with unsaved changes: [Untitled]-1. No export or filename info, not even the original filename. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export
maderios writes: The Akkana script https://github.com/akkana/gimp-plugins/blob/master/save-export-clean.py works well now. For those who haven't used sites like Github before: be sure to click on Raw before saving the plug-in to your plug-ins directory. minhsien0330 writes: After testing it I found this plug-in will not export the background layer to save. Interesting! Thanks for the clear steps -- I see the same thing you do. I had wondered why the PDB call gimp-file-save required a drawable (layer) argument. It looks like, when exporting to formats like jpeg which can't handle multiple layers, gimp-file-save uses that argument to decide which layer to save. That also explains why, in GIMP 2.6 and earlier, we had to go through that extra step of flattening the image if it had multiple layers before it could be saved to jpeg. To get around that, the plug-in would probably have to have some of extra logic: if (the image has multiple layers) look up target file type to see if the format supports that if not supported: save context for undo, or make a duplicate image flatten the image save it undo the flatten or delete the duplicate image I don't know of a way using the GIMP pdb to look up whether a particular file format needs flattening. So the plug-in might have to maintain its own table of formats. I had been thinking about this plug-in as something for people who edit a png or jpg or whatever, make a simple change and re-save it. I figured that when someone starts adding extra layers, they'd actually prefer the save as xcf, export a copy to jpg model ... at least, that's my own workflow. Do you think there are a lot of people who use multiple layers yet save as jpg? Besides, how do I setup the exported jpg quality? The defualt jpeg output quality of Save/Export Clean seems very low. That's a good question, and might require more research. At first I assumed it was following my default settings for the jpeg plug-in. If you export to JPG and get the dialog, you can click on Save Settings after adjusting the Quality slider. But GIMP doesn't actually seem to save those settings -- I find that whatever I adjust them to, my jpg quality settings end up at 90, whether I actually set the default higher or lower than that. That might be a bug -- if so, we should probably move to the gimp-developer list to find out (CCing). I'll do more testing before filing one, but it seems odd that quality keeps ending up at 90 and I don't seem to be able to change it. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export
minhsien0330 writes: Besides, how do I setup the exported jpg quality? The defualt jpeg output quality of Save/Export Clean seems very low. Akkana Peck writes: I find that whatever I adjust them to, my jpg quality settings end up at 90, whether I actually set the default higher or lower than that. Turns out that's a known bug that has already been fixed in the GIMP 2.8 tree. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export
Chris Mohler writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Akkana Peck akk...@shallowsky.com wrote: wouldn't it be more simple to flatten everything rather than ... ? It wouldn't make you very happy after you saved an XCF and tried to reopen it ... some formats DO support layers. :-) How about: - Duplicate image - Flatten duplicate - Save - Destroy duplicate That was exactly one of the two options I just described. and if you're saving to XCF, you'll end up with a flattened XCF that's lost all the layer info. Sure, it's fine if you only use the plug-in for exporting to JPG, and use Save for XCF. But then you probably wouldn't want to bind it to Ctrl-S. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
kevin writes: I have already made my thoughts known - I don't like the new system. That said, I have three options: (1) adapt my work habits, (2) stay on 2.6. or (3) change the source. There is a fourth option: the dev's revert to the old functionality. But, clearly, this is not going to happen. And a fifth option: write a plug-in that does what you want Save to do, perhaps involving gimp-file-save, and bind it to Ctrl-S. I don't like the new model either, but I'm going to work with it for a while and see if I continue to feel that way. If I decide I still don't like the change, writing a plug-in seems like it should be a straightforward fix. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Review: The Artists Guide to GIMP, 2nd edition
Patrick Horgan writes: On 04/16/2012 10:48 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Hi, just throught I'd plug a review of a GIMP 2.8 book I did here: https://diasp.org/posts/979588 I loved an earlier version of that book. Can't wait to read it. I see that Akkana's book is out in a 3rd Edition in the UK but not yet released in the US? There's no third edition of Beginning GIMP anywhere, at this point -- at least, if there is, it's news to me! Though I may be starting work on one soon, if all goes well. I'm glad to hear there's a new Artist's Guide out -- I have the earlier edition and quite like it. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
