[Goanet] *** GOA NEWS: Mar 13/06 - Cashew fest, IT park at Soccoro, Vacancy for judges, NCP, Sports...

2006-03-13 Thread Goanet Admin
*** GOA NEWS: Mar 13/06 - Cashew fest, IT park at Soccoro, Vacancy for judges, 
NCP, Sports...


*** 'Make Goa all-year tourist destination'

Calling for efforts to make Goa a round the year top tourist destination.  
More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10971


*** Migrants go unchecked as officials play blame game

When Goa is flooded with the influx of outsiders - right from Kashmir and 
Bihar to Hubli and Kerala.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10969


*** Cashew fest debates farmers' woes

The Cashew Mahotsav 06 at Kala Academy on Saturday saw a number of issues 
concerning cashew industry, assume center-stage.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10974


*** Anil Ambani group to open offices in Goa

In what could be a major boost to the industrial growth in the state, one of 
India's premier business houses, Reliance Communications Ventures (RCoVL) and 
Reliance Natural Resources Ltd (RNRL) - two of the four companies spun off 
from Reliance Industries Ltd in January which belong to Anil Ambani will be 
moving to Goa.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10966


*** Most land for proposed IT park at Soccoro barren, says panel

The Secretary of the Socorro IT Project Awareness committee Elman Dias has 
said that the land admeasuring 10,85,826 sq meters offered by the Serula 
communidade at Rs 25 per sq meter to the Info Tech Corporation of Goa Limited 
for IT park at soccoro is a barren land and the vegetation is only on the 
slopes of the land.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10975


*** Vacancy for judges lead to huge backlog of cases

The backlog of cases in various courts in the state is 34,315.  In the courts 
of North Goa alone 22647 cases (criminal and civil) are pending, while in 
South Goa number of pending cases is little less - 11, 668. More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10977


*** GOA: COMPETITIVE SCENARIO IN EDUCATION LIKELY WITH RELAXATION OF RULES

The reported decision of the Education department to relax the distance 
barrier will give a new boost to the proliferation of new English Medium 
Schools, which are in high demand.  More at:

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=19419n_tit=Goa%
3A+Competitive+Scenario+in+Education+Likely+with+Relaxation+of+Rules


*** Pak quake slowed Goa operation

The arrest of the Kashmiri terror suspect Tariq Ahmed Battlo has revealed that 
last year's quake in Pakistan had slowed down the operations by Tehrik-Ul-
Mujahidin in Goa.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10960


*** Over 63% turnout for CCP elections

Elections to constitute a full-fledged 30-member   governing body to the 
Panjim City Corporation today recorded a 63.66 per cent voter turnout. More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10962


*** Panjim selected under urban renewal scheme

The central government, under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal 
Mission has awarded a bonanza for Panjim city with the allocation of Rs 60 
crore under the scheme.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10968


*** Agro dept assistance for cashew area expansion

The Agriculture department is providing assistance for area expansion of 
cashew - the coastal horticultural crop as well as replacement of old cashew 
and mango plantations.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10970


*** Leadership battle in NCP flares up

The leadership battle in the NCP has flared up again with party Vice President 
Fatima D'Sa issuing a notice to general secretary Ulhas Naik to show cause why 
he should not be expelled from the party for anti-party activities.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10973


*** Exam centres for HSS students

Geography students of Navelim centre will answer their Geography paper at 
Rosary hSS, Navelim on March 18.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10965


*** Demolish illegal religious structures: citizens urge govt

The government should demolish all illegal religious structures in the state 
without any bias.  More at:

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031310


*** Car stolen in Ponda

Some unknown persons committed theft of a Fiat Siena car from the parking 
place in Ponda early this morning.  More at:

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031311


*** JK militant's presence shocks Goa

Residents of Rosa Mystica building in Sirvodem-Navelim are still to get over 
the shock that they harboured a terrorist in their midst.  More at:

http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1017802CatID=2


*** Panel 'needed' to check illegal religious places

In a bid to maintain communal harmony in the State following the recent 
communal clashes in Curchorem and Sanvordem, a group of social activists have 
recommended the constitution of an all-party committee to identify all illegal 
religious structures in the State.  More at:

http://oheraldo.in/node/10950


*** Selaulim water pipeline bursts again at Quepem

Hardly a week after it was repaired, the troublesome Selaulim water pipeline 
burst yet again in the wee hours of Sunday.  More at:


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2005-06-04 Thread Goanet Admin Frederick Noronha
A number of posts meant for Goanet are getting delayed in transmission, 
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[Goanet]Missing messages

2005-03-18 Thread Frederick Noronha (Goanet Admin)
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[Goanet]Goanet News Service * Feb 11, 2005: Parrikar to file petition in Supreme Court ... a maritime cybermuseum?

2005-02-11 Thread goanet-admin
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PAGE 1 * POLITICS * PAGE 1 * POLITICS * PAGE 1 * POLITICS * PAGE 1
* Parrikar to file petition in Supreme Court today.(GT)
* Differences between Willy, Congress over River Princess (GT)
  Tourism minister wants vessel removed, CM for abeyance (GT)
* Raves: It's still party time in Anjuna. Ground realities
  could make rave party ban impossible to implement (GT)
  In 2000, Willy moved bill to permit loudspeakers till 4 am. (GT)
* Lok Shakti, a campaign group, has favoured suspension of the
  Goa Assembly till by-elections are held. (H)
* Matanhy fails to attend UGDP meeting. (H)
IT'S ALL ABOUT POLITICS: In coalition politics,
Independents and smaller groups make or break
governments, they say. Independent MLA from Velim and
incumbent deputy CM Felipe Neri Rodrigues' story is
no different. This unassuming, but shrewd
engineer-turned-politician has virtually been employing
a win-win situation in the last 2-1/2 years, managing
to be on the right side of power, courtesy his
independent status. (Herald Margao correspondent
Guilherme Almeida)
SOCIAL CONCERNS: Goa is officially known as being more
pravalent among high-risk groups for HIV/AIDS. This
state could be on a short fuse. HIV is spreading. Yet
many in the remote villages of Goa have not even heard
of the disease, writes PREETU NAIR in Gomantak Times.
--
ONCE OUT OF POWER..
--
Quote: I had many ideas for the development of Pernem and wanted to
complete four projects, like the water supply scheme for Pernem, the Mopa
international airport, Goa Antibiotics Ltd and the new bus stand for Pernem.
But now these projects will remain incomplete as the Governor has dismissed
by government. -- Former CM Manohar Parrikar, addressing a BJP meet as part
of the JamirHatao Democracy Bachao campaign, Bhagwati temple, Pernem.
The Movement for Amity towards Roads in Goa (MARG) wants the new government
to unravel the mystery bethind the Parrikar government's decision to suspend
the bi-monthly grants promised to the NGO, whose convenor is Gurunath
Kelekar. (H)
--
IT'S POSSIBLE: A CYBER MARITIME MUSEUM TO GOA'S SEAMEN: 
--

Jounalist Melvyn Misquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been in touch with
that determined digger of Goan roots, Cliff Pereira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from the UK (earlier featured on
Goanet). Cliff is currently down in Goa.
Writes Melvyn: He has collected extensive and incredibly
fascinating information on over 700 Goan seamen who perished at sea
during World War II. Given my interest in one particular ship 'SS
Britania' which was sunk by a German raider in 1941, killing as many
as 51 Goan sailors, Cliff and I have been collaborating on the
possibility of setting up a 'Cyber maritime museum as a monument to
Goa's seamen'.
Melvyn announced plans hold an informal meeting here in Goa to
discuss the modalities of this project (setting up and the
management of a website, content, layout, funds, etc) within the
next few days. If interested, do get in touch!
CONTACT DETAILS: Melvyn S. Misquita is Asst Chief of News Bureau, Herald.
+Phones at office 91-832-2224202 (extn 231) or +91-832-2224460 (extn 231)
+and Cell: 91-9422064707
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OTHER NEWS THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR LIFE:
--
* 24x7 water project to be finalised by March. Hike in water
  tariff likely. (H)
* In Panjim, authorities are experimenting with using cameras to
  detect traffic offenses. (H)
Government of India's Right to Information Bill is
up for discussion, and you can submit memoranda on the same
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] within fifteen days. (Advt in Herald)
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VILLAGE GOA:

Re: [Goanet]Economy 90 years behind US: WB ( From the Navhind Times)

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Economy 90 years behind US: WB
 PTI Chennai Feb 10: Despite being ‘star performer’
 in terms of economic 
 growth, India will take at least another 34 years to
 achieve the GDP level 
 of the United States in 1950s, a senior World Bank
 economist said here 
 today.

IMHO, India would have already reached near western
standards in GDP if it wasn't for all the controls
imposed on production and competition during the
Nehruvian dynasty rule, based on Gandhi's swadeshi
movement - no doubt a good idea at the time, but
unfortunately bad in the long term.  Heavy controls
unfortunately lead to corruption and the growth of
mafias (see what Bombay's and US's prohibition led
to).

It is competition (whether foreign or local) that goes
towards increasing quality.  And it is only now that
the Indian market has opened up to foreign goods,
resulting in markedly improved quality in a lot of
goods. (India did have some good-quality stuff before,
but the goods were rare and in cases, out-dated.)  

I only hope for India's sake that companies become
more reliable in exports especially with regard to
deliveries, and more consistent with quality.

Cheers,

Gabriel de Figueiredo
Melbourne - Australia
ex-Ponjekar ani Lotlekar



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[Goanet]Dynamism in Neighbouring Airports

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Excerpt from
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Ychklogin=Nau
tono=180492leftnm=lmnu2leftindx=2lselect=0

Aviation policy to aid growth: Patel

Our Bureau / Bangalore February 11, 2005

.. ... ...
.. ... ...

Commenting on the hurdle-ridden process of builing the Bangalore
International Airport, he said that he had got all indications that the
airport will be ready by 2007.

A complete presentation on this will be made to the Prime Minister Manmohan
Singh who is visiting Bangalore on February 11  12, 2005. He also added
that the Hyderbabad International Airport will be ready by 2007.
.. ... ...
.. ... ...
---
In today's HERALD, ex-CM Parrikar is reported to have backed the building of
the airport at Mopa though his Tourism Minister  (who has since gone
undercover after the change of government) back pedalled on it in a media
interview circulated on goanet some time ago

Phil Thomas
Ribandar.



[Goanet]Budget 2005 and Aviation

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Excerpt From
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1017498,curpg-2.cms

Give wings, will fly
TEAM ET

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2005 12:12:15 AM]

...  
...  

Sales tax levied by different states on Aviation Turbine Fuel (ATF) is
another irritant the industry wants taken care of. While the tax, which goes
as high as 30% in some states, is a state subject,** the Centre can place
jet fuel under the deemed import category and levy a nominal duty of 4%.**

This will lower costs and bring uniformity in the fuel pricing. The fuel
bill typically accounts for 25-30% of the operational costs of airlines.
International oil prices have touched all-time highs in the past six months,
resulting in very high jet fuel prices. Any concession would therefore give
much needed relief to the airlines. VAT may also bring some relief to
airlines but it will depend on the rate that is finally fixed.

**The 10% service tax on landing and navigation costs is also been viewed
with concern by the industry.** Once again last year, A-I had estimated a
hike in its expenditure by some Rs 35 crore while the impact on IA was
projected at Rs 28 crore.

In developed markets like Europe and the US, budget carriers are able to fly
to cheaper airports, which are alternate to the main hubs, and contract
cheaper fuel, which also help in lowering costs, unlike India where these
components are more or less fixed for all airlines.

While the PM has committed resources to upgrade airports across the country
as part of the government's focus on infrastructure development, a specific
direction in the budget will help, analysts say. Airlines are gearing up to
introduce more flights in the domestic skies as well as mount more
inter-continental services. There is already a 30-40% increase in capacity
last year, and more is on the cards.

Airlines fear the biggest hinderance to their grow-fast programme will be
inadequate infrastructure (read inability of Indian airports to handle the
rush). While the civil aviation ministry is already drawing the blueprint to
infuse more capacity, precious time may be lost in bureacratic procedures,
and **India may lose out once more.**


Ditto for Goa?

Phil Thomas
Ribandar



Re: [Goanet]Lost city in Malaysia... and the Goa link

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Was surfing and came across this recent story about
 a lost city in Malaysia. The comment below, which
 is linked to Goa and the Portuguese rule, is
 interesting.
 FN (Frederick Noronha)
 Saligao Goa.
 

See also
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Paradise/9221/ ,
the site of the Malacca Portuguese Eurasian
Association, if interested in that part of the world.

Gabriel de Figueiredo
Melbourne -Australia
Ex-Ponjekar ani Lotlekar.


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Re: [Goanet]Ramoolo and Goanet - A Valentine Story

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Hey Pandurang Fernandes,
This is really a small world.
Once upon a time, I too dated your future
daughter-in-law, Mis Information Tech. It was
flatulence at first sight, as, at the time, she was
masquerading as a bovine expert.

I dumped her when she informed me that the country 
song, First You Have To Look At The Bottom To Find
The Authors Name was written by and for her.

Mervyn2.0













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[Goanet]Re: Goans and Caste

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
GL responds:
No more excuses! 
Raise the money!
Offer it DIRECTLY TO THE LOWER CASTE CATHOLIC Goans who desire to join
the seminary but cannot afford it. 
Let's see if there are any Givers and Takers.
It can't get any simpler.
Regards indifference of Europeans to Goan/Asian saints. Please tell us:
How the Goan community, under your leadership, celebrated the Feast of
Blessed Joseph in California? Did not see any posts before or after the
fest.
Thanks, Regards.

Jose Colaco:
Well said George. And Catholics who normally make a big spiel about
cafeteria Catholicism may wish to understand very clearly that:

1. The Caste System is contrary to Christianity
2. That the Death Penalty is contrary to the Commandment which says -
Thou 
Shalt NOT kill.

George Pinto:
The issue is not a lack of funding... The issue is whether there is a
will 
among church authorities and the laity to end the caste system practiced
by 
some Goan Catholics

Gilbert Lawrence:
But perhaps if Cornell and others feel there is casteism in Goa's  
Catholic church and DISCRIMINATION OF LOWER CASTE and want do something 
about it (rather than just talk and write), they can offer financially 
support for the cost of seeking vocations and training of lower caste  
priests in Goa's seminary






[Goanet][jose colaco] re: Censorship via abuse - 6

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Mario Goveia wrote  Jose, you will never understand because you don't want 
to.  According to you the US, India and every other democracy is no 
different from a dictatorship.  Great!  Keep thinking that way! Good luck 
with such a mentality.  The inmates are finally running the asylum. 

Dear Mr. Goveia,
I am sorry that the inmates are running your asylum.  Hope the situation 
improves for you.

Even so, please advise me where it is that I have said that the US, India 
and every other democracy is no different from a dictatorship

Please don't parse any words like Bubba Clinton.
I assume that we have agreed that you were incorrect about the Heraldo 
editorial, right?

Have you accepted that yet? or is it that you will never understand because 
you don't want to?

I ask because I know not the answer
regards
jcolaco
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[Goanet]Economy 90 years behind US: WB ( From the Navhind Times)

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Economy 90 years behind US: WB
PTI Chennai Feb 10: Despite being ‘star performer’ in terms of economic 
growth, India will take at least another 34 years to achieve the GDP level 
of the United States in 1950s, a senior World Bank economist said here 
today.

“India is growing faster, but from a low base. At current rate (of growth), 
India would reach USA’s 1950s (GDP) level in 34 years,” said Dr Lant 
Pritchett, lead economist, World Bank, addressing a symposium organised by 
the Loyola Economics Association for Development.

Assuming that Indian economy continues to maintain the current growth rate, 
it would take another 61 years for the country to catch up with the current 
economic level of the United States. “Not in your lifetime,” he told an 
audience, comprising mainly college students.

However, Pritchett said he was ‘bullish’ on the country’s growth prospects 
and added that India was a ‘rich country waiting to happen.’

‘India is a rich country struggling to free itself of the trappings of 
poverty. It should not think of itself as a poor country struggling to be 
modestly less poor,’ he said.

He said a steady economic growth was good for the country and cautioned 
against an accelerated pace.‘ The ride will be bumpy the faster it (economy) 
goes,’ the World Bank official said.

Mr Pritchett said the transition of the Indian economy into a successful 
economy would create social pressures. The social process is going to be 
tough. Nobody is saying it will be a smooth process,’ he said.

However, India was also not facing the threat of an economic catastrophe as 
its economy was not ‘booming’, he said, drawing a parallel with Brazil and 
some South Asian economies, which boomed, before going bust.

The major risks facing the country were the lack of fiscal means to meet the 
infrastructure needs, the lagging regions (such as Bihar) in the growth 
process and bad infrastructure, Mr pritchett said.

The private sector could only fund part of the growing infrastructure 
requirements and a major portion must come from the public sector. This 
would create pressure on the fiscal deficit, he said.

On the income distribution, India fared much better than many other 
countries during the last decade. India is more equal than any other growing 
economies. In China, income inequality has increased dramatically in the 
1990s,’ he said.

However, in terms of absolute indicators, there has been incredible growth 
in living standards for a large portion of the people in China, he said, 
explaining that there would be ‘enormous social pressures as Indian economy 
takes off,’ but still it was the better option.

===
Nagesh Bhatcar
Somewhere on Mother Earth



[Goanet]More on Ciggy Lighters

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
So the question I ask is why do they sell cigarette lighters on the
plane.  If fact on my flight I could actually buy a pack of two
lighters.

So interesting

Personally I think my idea of selling them at the Anjuna Flea Market to
pay for Dabolim to clean its toilets and provide toilet paper is a
better explanation



The regulation on the IATA site is interesting   It states

Safety Lighters or matches with fluid/fuel fully absorbed in a solid and
intended for use by an individual and carried on ones person. However,
lighters with a flammable liquid reservoir containing unabsorbed liquid
fuel (other than liquefied gas) lighter fuel or lighter refills are not
permitted on ones person nor in checked baggage or carry on baggage

Permitted in or as Carry On BaggageNo
Permitted in or as Checked Baggage No
Permitted on one's person  Yes
The approval of the operator/s is required No
The pilot in Command must be informed of the location  No


We appear to be missing the point here   How did a bag of explosive
fireworks get past security at Dabolim.

Dave
Newbiggin
UK





snip
For safety reasons, dangerous goods as defined in the
IATA Dangerous Goods regulations, and which cannot
be carried in as passenger checked or carry on baggage
are printed on each and every Passenger ticket...
cig lighters is one of them...
security was not very strict before but after 9/11
they have been strict at some airports.

Regards
Eddie Verdes
Chinchinim/Jeddah/KSA
-- 
David Futers   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Newbiggin by the Sea   http://www.futers.org
Northumberland   
NE64 6NL  UNITED KINGDOM




[Goanet]Map of Quitala, Henry T A S Fernandes

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
My late  cousin Henrique was a fascinating man of culture. We shared a
common great great grandfather, Cosme Damiao Pinto of Olaulim, who died in
1797. My uncle CD, who was Henry's too (mother's brother), had ever fresh
childhood memories of him, which sort of gives me a spiritual life span of
four stretched centuries ! Henry's stamp collection was probably the best
one ever in Goa. His late brother Joe was the Principal of Goan High in
Mombasa in the 1980's. He was a fierce patriot, a trait inherited by his son
Hector who has campaigned very hard for common-land rights in Goa.  

Eric Pinto, writing in the The Bronx.

Earlier from Aldona-Net http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aldona-net

Just came across this map of Quitla in the 1993-published book 'Fish
Curry and Rice: A Citizens' Report on the Goan Environment'. Not
sure if it is also available in the updated edition of the book.

The map is by Henrique T A S Fernandes. He writes: This map of
Quitala (sic, he spells it as Quitula though in the map itself) was
prepared as I had a great urge for knowledge, not of any kind in
general but about the place of my birth, the place where I was
brought up, studied and lived my young days.

Fernandes relied on maps of lands of the comunidade, and did the
work between 1960 and 1970 in the spare time I could find for this
hobby.

Fascinating story! FN




Re: [Goanet]Comment from Dr Ambert Pimenta

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being an old Goanetter (go way back to 1999) , and following Goanet 
closely from Johannesburg South Africa where i recently moved, the rules 
then were that personal abuse in any form would not be taken against a 
Fred , Herman ..are you guys listening

Dr. Ambert Pimenta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not just listening, but paying attention too!
It was very nice to have you back Dr Ambert. Where are you based now? It 
seems like ages ago that we lost touch.

Whose teeth are you now pulling out ... after you defanged some of us 
cybergoans :-) FN

FN-Saligao, Goa

Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia
Freelance Journalist  P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
http://fn.swiki.net   http://fn-floss.notlong.com

Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your
vocation. --Aristotle



[Goanet]Ramoolo and Goanet - A Valentine Story

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
RAMOOLO AND GOANET – A VALENTINE STORY

As told by Pandurang Fernandes

Here is a Valentine story that my friend Pandurang
just told me. It is still unfolding, breaking just in
time for this year’s Valentine day. 

Pandurang is looking for a bride for his xapotherr son
whose mental age has always outpaced his physical age,
and has now surpassed middle age. It is too much to
handle for a father who still lives in the Middle Ages
when the global climate was the warmest ever because
of the excessive natural gas released by Pandurang’s
ancestors and their proliferating cows.

Eager to leapfrog into the 21st Century, Pandurang
wants a daughter-in-law who is a computer literate
information technologist. He would have preferred to
focus on the caste instead, except that he is as
confused about his caste as he is about his political
party.

He learned his caste history from a colorful VCD,
sanctioned and certified by the Government and his
servants. He learned that his ancestors started out as
cowherds. They received a promotion to the position of
Shudras from an intellectual Hindu Government. This
man or his servants told them that they should be
happy with their promotion, considering the fact that
they were pigs in their previous life. Then a
strategic move to a foreign land gave them the
opportunity to be reborn as Saraswats. From that point
onwards Pandurang’s ancestors were on the fast track
of upward mobility. 

This mobility took many of them upwards into the
heaven. Those who remained on the ground were offered
the prospect of two quick changes of Government
position, first a rather persuasive transfer to Islam,
and later a convincing upgrade to Christianity, with
additional facility to keep the perks they received as
Shudras. A final renewal of license by Vishva Hindu
Babas and Sangh Parivar Buvas, in the early part of
the last century, allowed them to regain all their
original privileges as Hindu Shudras, to the fullest
possible extent. That is the confusion that Pandurang
Fernandes now enjoys, and is grateful to the Hindu,
Muslim and Christian Gods for it. He is also grateful
to the Government servants for giving him the VCD
containing all this misinformation very accurately. 

Going back to the type of bride that Pandurang wants
for his son, he is looking for a girl who has a lot of
computer literacy, and is herself the Miss Information
Technologist. Recently, after much thought and a
private suggestion from one member of the public, he
hit upon a brilliant idea to find such a girl. He knew
that it is very hard to write an email on a computer,
and even harder to cut and paste something in it, or
attach articles from the internet to it. So he figured
that any girl who knows the technology to send his son
the largest number of emails each day with lots of
literature on the computer, very good misinformation,
and many cut and paste marks or attachments in them,
must be an extremely computer literate misinformation
technologist. Therefore, he has been monitoring his
son’s emails for the past three or four weeks.

For a while things were routine. Lots of emails, but
from different people, boys and girls, men and women.
His son appears to have a lot of business dealings
with important people in various African and European
countries. He receives business offers involving
millions of U.S. dollars from colonels, generals, bank
managers and even rich wives of ex-presidents and
democratic dictators. But this lazy xapotherr never
sends them any replies despite Pandurang’s telling him
that he might be losing the opportunity of his life.

As far as emails from any single person are concerned,
at first there were many emails from a highly computer
literate misterinformation technologist named Mahadev
Govinda from Mumbai. Pandurang was obviously not
interested in a man, even though someone from Anjediv,
Andaman, Nicobar or some such island was disputing his
gender, calling her Meghana. 

Then all of a sudden, a few days ago his son started
receiving emails from a new person. She is most
definitely a young woman, about his son’s age. Her
name is Goanet Admin. She must be a beautiful air
hostess because she knows a lot about airports,
airlines and airfares, and writes many long emails
about them.

She has been sending emails to Pandurang's son
everyday now, usually in sudden spurts of 10 or 15
messages, all at once. She must be really fast at
everything – thinking, writing, typing, clicking, and
cutting and pasting. She knows a lot of literature and
a lot of complicated misinformation. She puts it in
his computer very very fast. She likes to gossip quite
a bit. She gets all the news before anybody else gets
it, and sends it to Pandurang’s son. She has many
friends all over the world, who seem to have birthdays
almost every week of the year. She knows all their
birthdays, and she wishes them each week.

Sometimes she writes the names of her friends at the
bottom of her emails, other times not at all.
Sometimes she

[Goanet]Re: For publication in Goanet Digest

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Hi Reggie, Goanet can only accept plaintext posts!
This is a request to all Goanetters -- if you don't want your post to be 
delayed or deleted, kindly post in plain text format only.

As Cecil says, we like to talk in plaintext too ;-) even though that's a 
rule we cannot unfortunately implement. FN

Frederick Noronha - Saligao Goa
On behalf of Goanet Admin
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Reggie Gomes wrote:

Dear Friends,
Could you kindly publish the attachment on Campaign against Patent Ordinance, 
in Goanet Digest. Although it is a national campaign, yet it affects the 
people of Goa very much.

Regards.
Reggie Gomes,
Mark Mansion,F-1,
St. Augustine Vaddo,
Santa Cruz, Goa - 403005.



[Goanet]Newsletters

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin


Friends ,

  I take the opportunity of sharing with you - News letters form two of our
World Goan Associations :

rene
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From: GOA NSW
Date: 02/08/05 13:56:42
Subject: GOA Newsletter 11 January/February 2005


Hello

We are very pleased to attach our iNewsletter * 11 in PDF file format  .  To
be
able to open and read this file on your PC, you will require an installed
version of Adobe PDF Reader (Acrobat') version 5 or higher. If you do not
have an installed version on your PC, you can click the link below:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

and follow the instructions to install the reader software.

This month's issue is a combined January/February issue. May we remind you
that newsletters are published 10 times a year. This month's edition is
packed with news of 2005 events calendar. We hope you will enjoy this
edition.

If you would like to contribute any material of interest for Newsletter
publication or merely wish to comments on one or more of the articles, you
can write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your feedback is always welcome.

Best regards
Executive Committee
G.O.A. NSW Inc
Sydney
00

iNewsletter *

Goan Overseas Association NSW
webiste

http://www.our-goa-nsw.org/goa/


rene barreto
London UK
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Goan's Newsletters
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Karnataka Goan Association of Bangalore.
http://www.kgabangalore.com/
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[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes: Feb 10, 2005 * New government talks of winding-up rave parties

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
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G o a n e t - N e w s   B y t e s  FEBRUARY 10, 2005  DATELINE: GOA
Issue compiled by: Frederick Noronha * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copyright Goanet 2005 Creative Commons License: You are free to reproduce
this compilation in its entirety, with all credits are retained. Want to
know more about Creative Commons? http://www.creativecommons.org
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POLITICS:
* New government to wind-up rave parties. (H)
* Wilfred de Souza says his first job is to focus on the
  grounded River Princess ship at Candolim (GT)
* Government disbands Tourist Police, following complaints
  of corrupt practices. (GT)
* Congress to screen VCD of stormy Feb 2 assembly session
  in major towns of Goa, says Luizinho Faleiro. (GT)
FORGOTTEN SO FAST: A report from Delhi, PTI published in Herald and Gomantak
Times, identifies former Goa chief minister as Manmohan Parrikar!
Gomantak Times front-pages a document which lists Filipe Neri as an
Independent MLA in December 2004. Neri is seen as being under a
disqualification threat from his former BJP allies, whom he ditched.
--
WORLD OF RELIGION:
--
PRIEST SUSPENDED FOR CONTESTING ELECTIONS: SAR NEWS, the South Asia
Religious News Network, reports in a flash release: President of the
Catholic Bishops' Conference of India Cardinal Telesphor Toppo has ordered
the suspension of Father Albinus Murmu of Dumka Diocese in Jharkhand for
contesting the coming Assembly polls in the state. Contact SAR at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested in subscribing to their daily service.
--
FROM THE CAMPUS:
--
QUEPEM PROGRAMME ON GNU/LINUX: Government College, Quepem is holding a
state-level workshop on 'GNU/Linux System Administration on February 12,
from 10 am to 4:30 pm. Contact the college at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr B A
Gomes is the principal.
--
SPORTS, BEYOND THE HEADLINES
--
COMMENT FROM ARMSTRONG VAZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:  Why have not the
English newspapers reported that VM Prabhudessai, the (Goa) director of
sports, was demoted back as deputy director of sports? They have only
reported that he is being made the deputy director, but being shifted from a
director to a deputy director is a demotion. Is it because some journalists
were given an all-paid study tour trip to Kerala by the Sports Authority of
Goa headed by VM Prabhudessai In March 2004? The constant changing of guards
is itself a story for the last ten years in the sports department of Goa.
Will any newspaper take up the issue and give the readers a complete
picture?  http://puggy.symonds.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goajourno
--
VILLAGE GOA:
--
* Illegal constructions on the rise in LOUTOLIM. (GT)
* Multiversity of Mapusa will co-host Taleemnet, a meeting of pioneers
  in education working outside the normal schooling system at
  Rustic Farm, THANE-VALPOI from Feb 10 to 13. * Foundation stone
  laid for 'Rugna Ashraya', a temporary home for
  patients and their relatives undergoing treatment or post-operative
  care at GMC will be laid at BAMBOLIM. It is being undertaken
  by Mathruchhaya Trust. (NT) It was financed by the state government.
--
NEWS YOU CAN USE: TIDBITS FROM THE MEDIA AND ELSEWHERE:
--
CHRISTIAN CHAMBER of Commerce and Industry holds a seminar
on investment opportunities in the commodity and stock
markets. Feb 20, Sunday, 9.30 am at St Xavier's Tech Inst,
Behind Mahim Bus Depot, Mumbai Contact 91.22.2851 2620.
ANNIE, IN MUMBAI: Our Lady of Salvation School Dadar presents the musical
'Annie', Feb 11-12, St Andrew's Auditorium Bandara 7.30 pm. Phone 2422 7906
in Mumbai.
HOLYLAND TOURS: Six day visits to Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee,
Cana, Tiberius, Jerusalem, etc. Dep Apr 25. Goa office 2410585
or 2410586. http://www.dawsonholidays.com
MOVEMENTS INTERNATIONAL, packing, moving, Customs clearance, international
and domestic movers of personal and household goods. Part load delivery to
Goa (from Mumbai) every week. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa 227 6552.
CATHOLIC TELEVISION ETWN (Eternal World Television Network) has
began broadcasting to India from the Satellite Pas 10 as a
free-to-air channel. See 

[Goanet]Celebrate Sport with London 2012- Wednesday 30 March

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin




CALLING  GOAN SPORTS ORGANISATIONS in the - UK.
---

Celebrate Sport with London 2012- Wednesday 30 March 2005 ,
for details - please contact Sangita Patel :

Sangita Patel
Tel.No.  020 8556 5973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I encourage all the Goan  Sportsmen/women in the UK
to participate  and  Celebrate Sport with London 2012 .

Your support will make a  difference.

rene barreto


Celebrate Sport with London 2012- Wednesday 30 March


Dear All

The London 2012 Forum would like to invite your organisation to participate
in a day of delivering free and inclusive sport and active recreation
activities to everyone in your community to help Celebrate Sport with
London 2012 on Wednesday 30 March. Further details are attached.

If you would like to offer sport and active recreation activities please let
me know details of when, where and what by Wednesday 9 March so
that we can help you with publicity/promotion of your event.

Please find details - below :

Sangita Patel
London Community Sports Network
c/o LOCSP
Leyton Stadium
Brisbane Road
London
E10 5NE
Tel: 020 8556 5973
Fax: 020 8926 1015
=



00

February 2005



Dear Colleague,

RE: Celebrate Sport with London 2012

London 2012, the Association of London Government, the Greater London
Authority and the London Development Agency would like to invite your
organisation to participate in a celebration of sport and leisure on
Wednesday 30th March and Wednesday 1st June 2005.  The aims of 'Celebrate
Sport with London 2012' are:to raise awareness of and to celebrate the
London
2012 Bid to bring the Olympic Games and Paralympic Games to the Capital
across the whole region, and to increase the number of Londoners taking
part in sport and active recreation.

To support this event we are encouraging local authority, private and
voluntary sector providers to make activities available within sports clubs,
community centres, faith centre halls, youth clubs, ymca's and leisure
facilities for a day or part of a day.  The aim is to develop a regional
programme of free events that people can get involved in and to actively
demonstrate their support for the Olympics - but just as importantly to use
the event as a tool to inform residents that there are opportunities in
sport and leisure activities in their own area.

The event is being coordinated by the London 2012 Forum as a way to show how
the Capital is backing the Bid.  We are looking at developing an extensive
regional marketing campaign for the event, which will allow authorities to
on sell to local residents.  The communication plan will involve web,
regional and local media and provision of point of sale information.

To develop the event into a truly regional festival we are hoping you can
provide a list of venues and activities available during the day and a key
contact person for the coordinating team to liaise with.  This information
will not be circulated to other agencies.

To support your involvement we have identified sub regional coordinators who
can provide you with additional information.  We will be contacting you
offering to run some sub regional workshops and provide support to
coordinate the activities locally.

In the meantime if you would like further information please contact your
sub regional coordinator:

West London

Richard Shwe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

North and East London
Christine Double
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


North and East London

Sangita Patel
Tel.No.  020 8556 5973
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Central London
Grant Aitken
Mob.07775 911 244
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

South London
Mob.07973844238
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yours faithfully,

Richard Sumray
Chair, London 2012 Forum

0
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CIRCULATE THIS INFORMATION
ACROSS YOUR NETWORKS

GOAN SPORTS LINK

---
rene barreto
IFSC - international
http://ifsc.indianfootball.com/index2.html





[Goanet]Comment from Dr Ambert Pimenta

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin


Being an old Goanetter (go way back to 1999) , and following Goanet closely
from Johannesburg South Africa where i recently moved, the rules then were
that personal abuse in any form would not be taken against a fellow member
on this group. Why is it then the admin team has taken so long to either
edit/delete or terminate the membership of such individuals ( I dont need to
name a few people who have been making waves here).

What gives me the right the speak?? I have been silent for a few years now
..but the old timers do remember this name as u will see below.. Let
people be outspoken here about Goa and Goan issues ..we dont need to know
what the Americans or British think here..there are groups to talk about
politics and activities thereof in those countries .. Lets bring about some
unity and pride in us being called Goenkars !! ( no more crab mentality
please)

I strongly oppose the new system in place ..if spamers need to get email
addresses there is plenty of ways to do that..i believe one can go thru
archives of goanet online so what is the admin team trying to do this time!!
...

Fred , Herman ..are you guys listening

Dr. Ambert Pimenta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[Goanet]Goan Observer online @ Rs. 1000/- a year

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Dear One All
well any things in Market that is very
high rate still we buy ! so if we need this Paper in
future to stay alive in Goan people heart then wehave
to support as he too have no other support thenwe
blood goan. as i am too crazy for this paper, we have
to help dear one and all.
yours Fellow Goan
Stephen Fernandes
Divar/ Muscat
--- v. fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello There!!!
 Came across the web page(GOAN OBSERVER Online).How
 come they
 intend to charge Rs1000/for a year's 'online
 subscription'? Does
 the content justify the amt? What is the frequency
 of the print
 edition? Can some one throw light on the subject?
 v.f.
-
Dear Stephen and v.f,
When the Goan Observer was first published it was priced at Rs. 10/- a 
copy. From the very next issue onwards it was Rs. 5/- a copy.

Just wait a few weeks. I am willing to wager that they will drop their 
online subscription drastically one they realise their steep price has no 
takers.

I occasionally used to browse the online edition of Goan Observer whenever 
I forgot to pick up a copy at the newstand and possibly would have 
subscribed if it was a reasonable amount. But why should I pay Rs. 1000/- 
to read a paper online using MY Internet and phone time when I can buy the 
printed version, and read it at my leisure, every Saturday for Rs. 260/- a 
year?

Perhaps they're targetting overseas Goans. Perhaps they think overseas 
Goans are suckers to be bled for money. Perhaps they didn't give it much 
thought.

Wait a while. Market forces will decide these things in the end. Not emotions.
Cecil
=



Re: [Goanet][Mario Goveia] Censorship via abuse - 6

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin

Jose Colaco writes:

 Hear that Bubba Bill? The art of parsing words is
 not yours alone.
 
 Let me understand this now: If jc owns the  Amchi
 Bhas noojpaper, and he is bidding for a
maiorGorrment contrak  and ..Yep! I suppose
 No  CON-flick Hummh!
 
Mario replies:
Jose, you will never understand because you don't want
to.  According to you the US, India and every other
democracy is no different from a dictatorship.  Great!
 Keep thinking that way! Good luck with such a
mentality.  The inmates are finally running the
asylum.




[Goanet]RE: [The Goan Forum d-list] Money, Political freedom and the case of Moira

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Dear Mr. Nazar da Silva,
I thank you for that letter, and Goa Desc for publicising it.
Without getting into the intricate details per se of the Moira matter, 
your letter illustrates the problem the Have Nots face in this world 
controlled by the Poixe and those who have the power to dispense them (the 
poixe).

Some among us may or may not agree - but Democracy cannot be considered 
strong when the Have Nots do not have the rights because they are Have Nots.

And yet, what some among us will NOT do for the sake of Poixe ?
Well done Moira
good wishes
jose colaco

From: Goa Desc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Where is political freedom?

Your editorial 'Money talks values walk' confirms a fundamental reality:  so 
long as we let money talk the common citizen is not going to enjoy political 
emancipation. It is not in the interests of professional politicians to 
release their voters from economic bondage.

Many Civic  Consumer Forums in Goa are aware of this reality and endeavour 
to challenge this perennial threat to our liberty. Let me relate to you the 
experience of the Moira Forum volunteers:

The cemetery attached to Moira Church was in dire need of renovation and 
extension. Some petty politicians and their chamchas got wind of this and 
persuaded the erstwhile Parish Priest to apply for funds under the MPLAD 
project scheme. The hierarchy, it appears is not averse to accept 
conditional funding.

Parishioners were invited to sign on blank sheets of paper, which were to be 
attached to an application for funds. Volunteers of the Forum took objection 
to such a devious way of undermining its efforts to empower citizens. The 
scheme to apply for MP funds was rejected outright.

Moira Church took upon itself to raise the required funds. Today, the new 
cemetery, which was blessed on 25th. January 2005 by the Archbishop  Filipe 
Neri Ferrao, is something to be really proud of. It surely ranks among the 
very best in Goa. And all the funds were raised by the people, mostly in the 
village itself.

Nazar da Silva, Moira
in a Letter to the Editor
--
HERALD 4/02/05 page 6
--
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[Goanet]Bush to bring home troops via Iran!

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
http://www.borowitzreport.com

BUSH PROMISES TO BRING TROOPS HOME THROUGH IRAN
Most Direct Route, President Says

Under pressure to detail an exit strategy for Iraq, President George
W. Bush said at a White House briefing today that he would not
designate an exact timetable for a withdrawal of U.S. troops but
added, The fastest way to bring the troops home would be through
Iran.

After reporters audibly gasped, the president explained that bringing
the troops home through Iran would be the most direct route and
produced driving directions from Mapquest to back up his claim.

But less than an hour after his remarks, Iranian president Mohammed
Khatami blasted Mr. Bush's exit strategy, arguing that bringing U.S.
troops home through Iran was far from the most direct route, and was,
in fact, going totally in the wrong direction.

Using a map of the world and a magic marker, President Khatami showed
that by traveling east rather than west, U.S. troops would have to
circumnavigate the globe in order to reach their final destination.

In response, Mr. Bush acknowledged that it would be a long journey,
but added, If necessary, we'll stop in North Korea.

On a related subject, Mr. Bush said that the vote-counting in Iraq's
historic presidential elections was not yet complete but that it
looked like the winner would be actor Jamie Foxx, for his performance
in Ray.

He's won everything else so far, Mr. Bush said.

Elsewhere, McDonald's said it would follow up its successful promotion
involving a French fry that looks like Abraham Lincoln by creating a
Supersize vanilla shake that looks like Dick Cheney.
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, England



[Goanet]Wilson Coelho's invitation

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Wilson Coelho has invited you to join his mobile friends' network.

Simply click the link below to confirm your relationship with Wilson.
http://www.sms.ac/registration/Intro.aspx?InviteId=80wun0l09p00k09wt9572hx9w2w66ot35b93i04p3a9

Don't want to be invited by your friends? Click on the link above to block 
future invitations from family and friends.



[Goanet]New Policies...

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
I have to agree with the folks voicing their dissent over the new
policies, its is rather trying to see all messages being from the
goanet-admin ,and not being able to tell who the sender is on first
glance.
Sidney

-- 
***
Sidney Fernandes[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Tampa FL
* 
  I keep six honest serving men 
(They taught me all I know); 
   Their names are What and Why and When and How 
  and Where and Who. 
Rudyard Kipling
 



Re: [Goanet]GOAN OBSERVER Online (reply)

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Dear One All
  well any things in Market that is very
high rate still we buy ! so if we need this Paper in
future to stay alive in Goan people heart then wehave
to support as he too have no other support thenwe
blood goan. as i am too crazy for this paper, we have
to help dear one and all.

yours Fellow Goan 

Stephen Fernandes
Divar/ Muscat 
--- v. fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello There!!!
 Came across the web page(GOAN OBSERVER Online).How
 come they
 intend to charge Rs1000/for a year's 'online
 subscription'? Does
 the content justify the amt? What is the frequency
 of the print
 edition? Can some one throw light on the subject?
 v.f.
 
 __
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 protection around 
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Re: [Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin

 We made this change based on a suggestion from one of our members. We want
to
 protect your email addresses from spammers and to make it more difficult
for
 them to send you junk mail (spam). Spammers have achieved a high degree of
 infiltration on the internet. Virtually every public domain is susceptible
to
 them.


I am amused at this one member suggestion, that you change without even
discussing with the list. Matter of fact my id has already been with the
spammers by now. Can goanet undo that? Also once i sign my name, most
members know my id. will it help??

hAVE a nICE dAY!!
Seb.
Ponda.







[Goanet]Political freedom - the case of Moira

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
-
Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660
Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/
--- 


Where is political freedom?

Your editorial 'Money talks values walk' confirms a fundamental reality:
so long as we let money talk the common citizen is not going to enjoy
political emancipation. It is not in the interests of professional politicians
to release their voters from economic bondage.
Many Civic  Consumer Forums in Goa are aware of this reality and
endeavour to challenge this perennial threat to our liberty. Let me
relate to you the experience of the Moira Forum volunteers:
The cemetery attached to Moira Church was in dire need
of renovation and extension. Some petty politicians and
their chamchas got wind of this and persuaded the
erstwhile Parish Priest to apply for funds under the
MPLAD project scheme. The hierarchy, it appears is
not averse to accept conditional funding.
Parishioners were invited to sign on blank sheets of paper,
which were to be attached to an application for funds.
Volunteers of the Forum took objection to such a
devious way of undermining its efforts to empower
citizens. The scheme to apply for MP funds was
rejected outright.
Moira Church took upon itself to raise the required
funds. Today, the new cemetery, which was blessed
on 25th. January 2005 by the Archbishop  Filipe Neri Ferrao,
is something to be really proud of. It surely ranks
among the very best in Goa. And all the funds were
raised by the people, mostly in the village itself.
Nazar da Silva, Moira
in a Letter to the Editor
--
HERALD 4/02/05 page 6
--
===
GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE
Documentation + Education + Solidarity
11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507
Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  website: www.goadesc.org
--
Working On Issues Of Development  Democracy
===



[Goanet]13 Feb Sunday Nuvem Forum organises Consumer Rights Program

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
-
Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660
Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/
--- 

---
Nuvem Forum organises Consumer Rights Program
---
On the occasion of the 2nd Anniversary of the formation of the
Nuvem Civic and Consumer Forum, the Forum is organizing a
Public Awareness Programme on Consumer Rights. The program
is being organised in collaboration with Goa Desc Resource Centre,
Mapusa as part of the ongoing Consumer Rights Awareness
Campaign being observed in different parts of Goa.
The program will be held on Sunday, 13 February 2005 at
Mae dos Pobres School Hall, Nuvem at 10.30 am
The main item of the program will be a lecture cum demonstration
by Mr.N.M.Naik the Controller, Dept. of Legal Metrology on the
under-weighing of goods and the violation of the Packaged
Commodities Rules.
Mr. Roland Martins, Co-ordinator of Goa Civic  Consumer
Action Network (GOACAN)will also address the gathering and
chair the interactive question-answer session.The programme
is open to all residents of Nuvem, Verna and surrounding areas.
Consumers can also email their queries
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Press Release from Nuvem Civic and Consumer Forum

---
GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
---
an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE
to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa
---
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Goanet]GOAN OBSERVER Online (reply)

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Dear One All
  well any things in Market that is very
high rate still we buy ! so if we need this Paper in
future to stay alive in Goan people heart then wehave
to support as he too have no other support thenwe
blood goan. as i am too crazy for this paper, we have
to help dear one and all.

yours Fellow Goan 

Stephen Fernandes
Divar/ Muscat 
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 Hello There!!!
 Came across the web page(GOAN OBSERVER Online).How
 come they
 intend to charge Rs1000/for a year's 'online
 subscription'? Does
 the content justify the amt? What is the frequency
 of the print
 edition? Can some one throw light on the subject?
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[Goanet]Goanet then and now!

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
The decision by Goanet-admin to block sender's name and email had
drastic consequences on me and my elder son Joshua.

In the evenings, Fridays and holidays, when I am unable to access my
company provided email, I surf the Goanet archives.  It's an addiction
which have glued me to the keyboard and brought my outdoor activities to
a grinding halt. 

I have been waiting patiently for Sachin Phadte's reply regarding the
controversial VCD on Goa's freedom struggle.  Looks like Sachin did take
a closer look and saw the evil side of the disgusting VCD.  

Joshua has taken a keen interest in computers. He knows how to access
his favorite car games and his concentration to race all the cars is
amazing.  I only wished if he had shown half the interest in his
studies.

Last month as I was reading Goanet archives, Joshua screamed from
behind. The sudden scream startled me and I stared back at him to see
what the commotion was all about.  He blurted out Dad! I saw your name
on the screen.  No! Scroll up! .  It's not easy to control an over
excited eight years old.  

I grudgingly showed him my name and he ran towards the bedroom calling
his mother.  She stopped whatever she was doing and followed him to
where I was with my PC.  She casually saw the archives and asked Joshua
Where is your Arabic note book?  The excitement which was building
exited like a deflated balloon.  Joshua was grumbling, but his eyes
never left the screen.  I clicked on the Author and sorted out the list.
He counted twelve and his thrill had no bounds.

Today as usual I was going through the Goanet archives.  I can safely
say that I am hooked to Goanet, just like drug addicts are hooked to
hashish.  I felt Joshua's presence behind me.  He was straining and
throwing all his weight on my shoulder.  He looked at the bottom part of
the list and asked me.  Who is this Goanet?  Where are the other names?
What happened to my favorites names Cecil, Jose, Alfred and ... These
are the names of Joshua's friends in school and Salmiya chapel.  I told
him they have replaced all the names with Goanet.  He looked at me
angrily and said I don't like to see the same name every where, it's
kind of boring.  I was looking forward to see my name.  I know that my
name is not common in Goa.  But we have quite a few Goan boys in Kuwait
with the name Joshua.

I looked back and there was no sign of Joshua.  I saw him scribbling
furiously with a marker on his rough book.  I took a closer look to see
what he was up to.  He had written in bold letters WHATEVER HOPE I HAD
OF SEEING MY NAME ON GOANET HAS VANISHED, THIS IS A VERY SAD DAY

I hugged him and whispered That makes two of us...



Avelino
Bastora/Kuwait




[Goanet]Foul Play

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Foul Play
The Times of India,
By Rajindar Sachar
8th February, 2005
Dismissal of Goa Govt Unconstitutional
Democracy has been seriously abused in Goa. How else should one describe the 
Goa governor's dismissal of the Parrikar ministry and his indecent haste in 
swearing in a Congress ministry? This action, as the Supreme Court said 
almost 30 years back, is reminiscent of the happenings in the age of Stuarts 
of England in the 16th century.

No doubt, the Speaker's action in expelling independent MLA Rodrigues was 
equally indefensible, as he had not been disqualified as a member of the 
assembly. But that does not justify the action of the governor, which 
suggests that he had decided before hand to dismiss the Parrikar ministry. 
If the governor was of the view that the Speaker had denied the right of 
voting to the legislators for whatever reason, he could have asked the chief 
minister to have a fresh vote in the legislature. Parrikar legally would 
have had to comply with this direction.

The governor could not plead that he could not risk asking the chief 
minister to seek a fresh vote of confidence, on the pretext that the Speaker 
could have adjourned the assembly to defeat the vote being taken. This fear 
is unfounded. Decades back, the Supreme Court while interpreting Article 
174(3) of the Constitution had held that the governor had the power to 
prorogue the House, even if it is in session and further that the House can 
be re-summoned thereafter to transact the business directed by the governor 
(in this case) to seek a vote of confidence. And if Parrikar had refused to 
do so, the governor could legally have dismissed Parrikar and either 
recommend President's rule under Article 56 or could swear in Rane ministry 
but with a caveat to him to prove his majority within a week.

The governor, however, did not adopt this constitutional method. He tried to 
exercise royal power a Henry VIII, which is extant since the middle ages in 
England. In fact, a king of England was even hanged for defying Magna Carta 
principles. Notwithstanding this history, the governor invoked Article 4, as 
if to suggest that the chief minister is in the personal service of the 
governor.

Surely, S C Jamir, a former chief minister must know our constitution 
envisages a parliamentary system of government Both at the Centre and in the 
states and that neither the president nor the governor can exercise any 
power at his pleasure. A governor's power is restrained by the Constitution, 
and he is not meant to act like Henry VIII. On acts of presumptuous 
arrogance, the Supreme Court gave a firm warning years back when it warned, 
No one is an imporium in our imperia in our constitutional order. Unchecked 
power is alien to our system.

To make matters worse, the governor swore in the 'expelled' Rodrigues as a 
minister. It appears that the chief minister has derived some perverse 
pleasure from this unseemly episode of toppling the government. The sad 
reality is that the Constitution of India was framed by gentlemen, to be 
implemented by gentlemen. But when rulers of a different kind occupy such 
constitutional positions, aberrations bringing disrepute to the high office 
are bound to take place.

This event threatens to plunge the country into bitter political fights,. 
Shouldn't the Congress and the BJP show some respect to the norms of 
democratic functioning? It is obvious that with MLAs changing loyalties, the 
chances to form a stable government seem next to impossible.

The Rane ministry is already threatened with a split. The wisdom of both 
parties lies in their joint request to the governor to dissolve the 
legislature and order fresh elections. It should also be agreed that the 
Rane government resign immediately with no caretaker government in the 
interim. During this interim, governor's  rule should apply, without Jamir 
at the helm, who has forfeited the right to act as a neutral referee. He is 
rightly accused of having functioned as a stooge if the congress to score a 
penalty kick in the goal of the BJP. A new governor must be appointed  for 
Goa und whom fresh elections take place. Such a course may stem the tide for 
bitter-street fighting and restore the system to its normal functioning. 
After all, it is for the people to elect their representatives.

The sanctity of the Constitution is at stake, and it is for political 
parties to act decisively rather than adopt an amoral position. Questions of 
convention, probity and political behaviour cannot be left to the wooden and 
slow approach of courts. The present situation can only heighten political 
friction and bitterness. The two main political parties should rise above 
their petty political; postures and think of the institutions at stake.

The criteria for selection of governors are a matter of concern. At present, 
governors owe their appointment to the sole pleasure of the Centre and can 
therefore afford to behave in a partisan manner. 

[Goanet]Goenkars N.B. Vatican tightens code for annulments.

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Due acknowledgement to Goan Voice (U.K.) for bringing this to  the
notice of the Goans.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1408899,00.html

 Vatican tightens code for annulments 

Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday February 9, 2005
The Guardian 

Facing an increasing number of marriage annulments, the Vatican
yesterday made its first move in 70 years to try to ensure that
Catholics do not win the Church's blessing to end their marriages for
the wrong reasons.
This code aims to help make it easier for the tribunals to ascertain
the truth, said Cardinal Julian Herranz, head of the Pontifical
Council for Legislative Texts, presenting an updated book of legal
guidelines called Dignitas Connubii (The Dignity of Marriage).

The Catholic church does not recognise divorce, and annulment is the
only way for Catholics to remarry before the church. More than 500,000
annulments are granted by Roman Catholic diocesan tribunals each year,
most of them in America.

Although civil divorces rule that a marriage has failed, church
annulments require proof that a true marriage never existed.

Critics say that as divorce has become increasingly common, Catholics
have made increasingly ingenious claims to annul their marriages. And
church tribunals are increasingly willing to accept new
interpretations.

In the context of a divorce mentality, even canon processes of
annulment cases can be easily misunderstood, as if they weren't
anything more than ways to obtain a divorce with the blessing of the
Church, said Cardinal Julian Herranz.

Acceptable reasons are that one person was tricked or forced into
marriage or that a secret was withheld, such as impotence.

Recently published Vatican records show new reasons, previously
unheard of, for breaking off a marriage. One annulment was granted in
2003 on the basis that the husband had an exaggerated sense of
supremacy and warned the wife, before marriage, that if she was not
up standard he reserved the right to divorce.

 
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, England



[Goanet](Not) Signing Posts

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
So sorry about my not signing posts! Just a force of habit. :) Pls do add my
name and location whenever necessary. Thanks.

Phil Thomas
Ribandar




Re: [Goanet]Ciggerette lighters at Dabolim Airport

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
For safety reasons, dangerous goods as defined in the
IATA Dangerous Goods regulations, and which cannot
be carried in as passenger checked or carry on baggage
are printed on each and every Passenger ticket...
cig lighters is one of them...
security was not very strict before but after 9/11
they have been strict at some airports.

Regards
Eddie Verdes
Chinchinim/Jeddah/KSA

 On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:42:14 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On two occasions in the last month for a trip to Mumbai and one back to
  the UK when the hand luggage passed through the Xray machines the staff
  confiscated the lighters and disposed of them

 Gabe:
 they can easily detect metal by the X-RAY equipment and
 that is why the lighters are spotted. I fully agree with you that
 carrying fireworks is an absolute hazard and there should be notices
 to this effect at Dabolim Airport. 
 -- 
 Cheers,
 
 Gabe.





[Goanet]Re: Goan Dangerous Substances - from The Times of India

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
Goan for the Jocular
by Cecil Pinto

-The new post 9/11 aviation security rules have a long list of items banned
inside the airline cabin; ... [Feb 9]

A good one. Keep it up! It strikes me that since the Dabolim airport scene
is pure unadulterated farce, satire such as this may be the only way to deal
with the subject meaningfully  on goanet. The serious stuff just seems to go
over everybody's heads (no pun intended:) How about an imaginary dialogue
among assorted characters such as the Navy, AAI,  Goa govt, civil aviation
ministers, the south Goa hoteliers lobby etc etc.?   It will be great fun.
Thanks again.






Re: [Goanet]Uncle Sam's Catch 22

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:10:56 + (Hora padrão de Greenwich),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had been accompanying with quite some interest the discussion on Goanet
 about democracies and dictatorships. I wish the discussants could also take
 up the following texts into consideration
 
 http://globalresearch.ca/articles/FRA501B.html

Excerpt and response:-

Uncle Sam has reneged and defaulted on up to 40%
of its trillion-dollar foreign debt, and nobody has said a word except
for a line in The Economist. In plain English that means Uncle Sam
runs a worldwide confidence racket with his self-made dollar based on
the confidence that he has elicited and received from others around
the world, and he is also a deadbeat in that he does not honor and
return the money he has received.

How much of our dollar stake we have lost depends on how much we
originally paid for it. Uncle Sam let his dollar fall, or rather
through his deliberate political economic policies drove it down, by
40%, from 80 cents to the euro to 133 cents. The dollar is down by a
similar factor against the yen, yuan and other currencies. And it is
still declining, indeed it is apt to plummet altogether.


RESPONSE: If one takes into account that the Euro was floated in 1999
at a rate of around 1.17 US Dollars the devaluation is not that great
(around 9 percent). Before the Euro's existence, I have seen and
traded the US$ at a high of more than US/Deutsche Marks 3.45 and a low
of around US/DM 1.40. So these fluctuations were all within scope
despite causing some discomfort at the time for either Europe or the
U.S.

I believe if and when the Euro devalues more than 25 percent from the
Euro's inception rate then one should start worrying. Any way for the
moment the Euro/US$ rate is treading water and the US$ might even
start to appreciate. The Foreigners are in a bind - Especially Japan
and recently China who are accumulating vast holdings of US$. It is
not in their interest to see the US$ being dumped. The whole world
will be in a bad way if and when foreigners start to panic. Perhaps
the US authorities know this and hope the rest of the World will
continue to support the mighty USA come what may.


cheers,

Gabe

Wimbledon, London.



[Goanet]Burkhas Stocking Masks compulsory at GoaNetter's meet on Feb 14th

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
An extraordinary Executive Body Meeting of GoaNetter's was called yesterday 
evening at Campal Parade Grounds to discuss the latest initiative by the 
Admin Team. The Executive Committee consists of the Admin Team and 
subscribers who post and discuss matters regularly. Everyone sits on the 
floor and only Herman gets a chair.

Herman: I am pleased to announce that the next GoaNetter's meeting is 
going to be held on 14th February at the Black Box of the Kala Academy at 
11 p.m. in complete darkness. All GoaNetters wishing to attend have to 
compulsory wear clothing that completely hides their identity. Burkhas are 
recommended for ladies and Stocking Masks for the gents.

Fred: And we have discussed this matter in depth before Herman announced it
Bosco: Huh?
Viviana: Shaddup your face!
Diana: Where are we going to get burkhas?
Fred: Ask Domnic to send some from his antique shelf in Saudi
Gabe: And where do I get stockings?
Bosco: Ask your wife nitwit!
Gabe: What will she think?
Bosco: That's your problem!
Herman: It is suggested that subscribers wear name tags to identify 
themselves

Fred: Name, surname and city
Phillip: I come from a village
Fred: Village names not allowed. If you put your village name then you 
cannot put your surname!

Cecil: What about people who put fake name tags?
Viviana: That is allowed. We four Admin Team members will gave special 
glasses that will tell us the real identity of the subscribers

Cecil: Wow! X-Ray glasses! Can I borrow them?
Viviana: Not X-ray glasses you pervert! Just glasses that can identify the 
face through the veil or stocking. So we will know who is who. The rest of 
you can grope in the darkness.

Cecil: Did she just say grope?
Bosco: Shaddup you nitwit!
Cecil: Can I wear only a stocking mask and nothing else?
Bosco: Whadya mean?
Cecil: Go figure! It's Valentine's Day!
Bosco: Please speak in Plain Text only
George: Is smoking allowed?
Herman: Yes!
George: How will men light their cigarettes through a stocking mask?
Fred: Good question. We will find a solution.
George: Why don't you just remove this masked rule?
Fred:One member asked for it
George: Why?
Fred: He feels all the spam he's getting is because of GoaNet
George: Ha! Tell him to use protection like everyone else
Cecil: I like spam!
Herman: What?
Cecil: I've been offered millions of dollars by Nigerians, discounted 
Viagara, penis enlargement formulae, free pix in my mailbox, discount 
coupons... Makes me feel wanted.

Bosco: Wanting  - you mean
Fred: Ok! Ok! Enough of that!
Cecil: Wasn't there a woman in a burkha at the 2nd GoaNetters meet 3 years 
back?

Viviana: Uh! Uh!Let's not go there again
Cecil: Yes, it could have been a man in a burkha. It might have been Halur 
Rosho! Is she coming for the meet?

Viviana: No she is not! And the name is Rasho not Rosho
Cecil: How do you know? And her gender?
Fred: We can only see the faces with our spectacles
Bosco: What about skin colour? Can we see that?
Fred: Whose side are you on?
Bosco: Ooops!
Fred: But if we can see their skin colour then we charge them double if 
they're white!

Cecil: So dark people like me get paid to attend?
Jose: Who asked Goans?
Fred: Wha?
Eddie: Why bother about smoking if cigarette lighters are not even allowed 
at airports?

Mario: What about global warning
Santosh: Go take a hike to Mount Helena
Mario: You mount Helena, you apologetic neurotic leftist
Cecil: My son is left handed too!
Fred: Hullo! Guys. So are we all in agreement about this masked meeting?
Who shut off the lights
How am I to know?
Multi Level Marketing sucks! So do religious evangelists!
Who said that?
A once-born twice shy!
Aaaghhh!
What was that?
Somebody's being spammed
Will someone please turn on the lights?!!
==


Cecil Pinto (M/38/Married with two sons/5'8/BA/Flower Seller/Burp!)
Aldona/Panjim (ex-Mumbai)




[Goanet]A Suggestion for Goanet's New Look

2005-02-10 Thread goanet-admin
I have a suggestion. Instead of the messages only being identified by the
subject, you'll could also include who it's from while just deleting the
e-mail address (not the senders name). This way, everyone's happy except
spammers.

If this is not acceptable, then stick to the present system, but there would
not be a need to include the sender header, since we all know that all the
mail comes from Goanet admin and removing the sender header would reduce the
text displayed on the first part of a Goanet digest.

In my opinion, I liked the original look, and think that tacking spam could
be done in other ways such as hiding e-mail addresses on the goanet website
or restricting the goanet post viewing just to goanet members.

Clinton..
Benaulim, Goa

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[Goanet]Re: Is India a racist country

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
High Prices? Unfair? students from poorer countries
pay more?
While international students from outside the EU can
pay up to UK£15,000 (US$24,285) per year for some
academic courses at UK universities, local students
and those from within the EU have previously paid
up-front fees of just UK£1,100 (US$1,781) per year. In
the future, universities may be able to charge
students much more than the current UK£3,000
(US$4,857) limit which has so far been fixed until
2011
http://www.hothousemedia.com/etm/etmbackissues/apriletm03/apretm03news.htm

Reg,
Jen
-
On a recent visit to India, we too paid very high
prices for entry everywhere; as well as to be
'upgraded' from Delhi to Goa (Indian Airlines)
after an accident.  All 'foreigners' are charged
exhorbitant prices and that includes NRI's:
non-resident Indians!  Eg  A visit to the Taj Mahal:
resident Indians paid Rs 20 and we paid Rs 750!!

While we concede that non-residents or foreigners
should pay more, we find that the charges are
disproportionately higher and grossly unfair.

Edwin  Ivy De Souza
Ph  Auckland  (9) 817 5936
New Zealand
Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:49:21 +
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet]Is India a racist country

 If in the UK I made a racist comment, attempted to
charge an Indian 
or
 indeed any ethnic minority person more for service
than a English 
person
 I would be subjected to the full force of the law.

 Imagine my surprise when taking a trip to Mumbai I
found that my 
airfare
 was twice that of my Indian colleague.  I paid
RS7500 and he Rs3500.  
My
 seat was next to his so why.  Is this a racist
policy being applied 
to
 white foreigners based on the fact that we do not
live in India.

 It got worse as my Indian friend was able to visit
Elephanta island
 caves for Rs10 when I had to pay Rs250.  Now that is
discrimination.

 It is not that I can not afford the additional costs
It is a matter 
of
 principle

 Dave
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[Goanet]Goa CM in the cold

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Goas new CM out in the cold --- Deccan Herald Feb 9, 2005

PANAJI, DHNS:


It took Congress Legislature party leader Pratapsingh Rane barely six hours to 
step into the chief ministers shoes after last weeks dramatic turnaround 
of political events, when he was sworn in as the new chief minister on February 
2.Getting recognition from Goa Speaker Vishwas Satarkar has been quite another 
matter.
How will Mr. Rane function if the Speaker refuses to recognise him as the 
leader of the House? wondered Goa BJP leader Rajendra Arlekar.
In fact Mr. Rane continues to operate from the Opposition leaders chamber in 
the state assembly complex and a letter written to the Speaker by Chief 
Secretary D S Negi, asking that Mr. Rane be allowed to occupy the chief 
ministers plush cabin there, has so far been cold-shouldered.
Mr Negi confirmed that the letter had been sent and said he had not received a 
reply from the Speakers office. Mr. Rane was somewhat pragmatic about the 
matter. He said, Within the Speakers domain, the executive cannot do what 
it wants.
This curious turn of events has come about because the previous government 
decided to shift offices out of the Adil Shah palace in Panjim that has served 
as Goas secretariat for over 40 years, to the assembly complex. The new 
secretariat at Porvorim does not have cabins for ministers who were functioning 
from their offices in the assembly building. The government is now preparing to 
shift base back to the palace where cabins are being readied. Till then, Mr. 
Rane will have to suffer the indignity of being accorded his old status.
Posted by C Rodrigues
Navelim



[Goanet]Re.: AIR INDIA - PLANS INITIATIVES

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
On the [19/12/2001] flight's last leg from Mumbai to Goa, could notice a
sea-change in the inflight services with the Captain himself giving  a
running commentary on Goa's beauty, etc., the crew all honey 
sugar..What about direct flights to Goa ?, AI should introduce more
flights to Goa prefereably on our weekends with competitive fares.

Or, AI should take over atleast one weekly direct flight from Indian
Airlines.

Or, how about the Indian Govt. allowing Intl. carriers to fly on the
lucrative gulf sector with stopovers in Goa.

Atleast there will be competition, breaking the monopoly of Air-India and
Indian Airlines (IA), which will be beneficial to the public in terms of
extra weight allowance, change Indian Airlines officials attitude towards
the
passengers.

Welly Dias
Q8 Raupi from Goa. [Feb 9]

---

Some questions:

1. Does Air India still fly to Goa, with  a stop in Mumbai as reported
above? How many times a day/week?

2.  Does Goa have ANY scheduled international flights as distinct from
international charters, say by Indian Airlines as implied by the above? If
not why not?

Phil Thomas
Ribandar




[Goanet]Re:Goa's Timblo scions in fight over empire

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin

In  response to GoA's PrIdE www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] following
posting:
into.  Sociedade De Fomento was set up under Portuguese law in 1975
Samir Kelekar responded; Portuguese law in 1975?
Tony Correis-Afonso noted quite correctly Dear Samir-bab:  As you may be 
aware, there are some Portuguese civil still prevailing in 2005, leave alone 
1975!


There is however a small typo in the original set- up date  for Sociedade 
De Fomento

It is not 1975 but 1957
cheers
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[Goanet]RE: RE: Beginning of the end of Goanet

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
(Dr Jose Colaco: just like Santosh is not the same as Halur,  please note 
that jose isn't Bernardo. Never was - Never will be.  RK Nair et al please 
note.)

Noted, doctor! But, as Gilbert Menezes said the other day, I refuse to bite 
the bait!

Cheers, RKN
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Re: [Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Goanet Admin Team,
I'm delurking only to say that the new Goanet privacy policy has rendered 
the mailing list fairly unusable. I would vote for reverting to the old 
system while looking at other options to protect members' email addresses.

Thanks,
Frederick Menezes



[Goanet]Re: Goans and Caste

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
GL responds:
For the benefit of Diaspora Goans and those not familiar with the caste
identification, can you please oblige by putting a caste to the names of
the Ministers in the two govt.? Thus we will know the caste groupings in
the government and how well it reflects the population it represents and
serves.
Thanks.
 
Miguel: 
 
Just put a caste to the name of the Ministers in the newly sworn-in Rane
cabinet, then look for repeats of the caste that have been left out of
[and are swearing at] the cabinet. Ditto for the Parrikar cabinets
earlier. 'Cast your vote and vote your caste' holds good in the Assembly
as in the polling booth.



[Goanet]RE: Children of God

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Fred,

Yeah, I remember the group very well. They were pretty big in Bombay at the 
time and I remember one of their slogans. They twisted the Bible saying: God 
told us to love one another so let's make love. He encouraged women members 
of the group to engage in what he called flirty fishing. This term was based 
on Jesus injunction Follow me and I will make you fishers of men. Women 
members were urged to go to bars and befriend men, seducing them if neccesary 
in roder to encourage them toward religious conversion. Berg wrote: What 
better way to show the love of God than to do your best to supply their 
desperately hungry needs for love, fellowship, companionship, mental and 
spiritual communication, and physical needs such as food, clothing, shelter, 
warmth, affection, a tender loving kiss, a soft warm embrace, the healing 
touch of your loving hands, the comforting feeling of your body next to theirs 
and yes, even sex if need be!

We lost a few youth in our area to this cult which offered them the acceptance
and love they were unfortunately missing at home. Their songs distributed under
the title Music With Meaning were also popular with the youth in local
parishes.

An interesting story: The daughter of David Berg wrote a book after she left 
the cult exposing their practices and detailing the history of the movement. 
It was a very thought provoking book and gave outsiders a very intimate look 
into the  inner workings of the cult and what keeps members in. The ship Logos 
had just docked in Bombay to sell Christian books at very discounted rates. 
This book was one of the best sellers. When the local COG heard about the 
book, they turned up and bought every single copy available.

I'm not sure that their teachings today are as radical as in the early days of
the movement, thanks to the spread of STD's. They now call themselves The
Family

Dan Soares
Stony Brook, NY



[Goanet]Re:Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
To the administrators of GoaNet:

Like many others on this list, there are some individuals whose posts I don't
even bother to read because it is a waste of time. In the interests of privacy,
can the header information and the email address of the poster (NOT THE NAME )
be stripped from the email, so that we can still discern who the poster is?

For example:

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:51:36 -0500
From: Desmond Nazareth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]THE BLUES  --- 6th get-together (SUNDAY FEB 13, 2005)
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org

THE BLUES  --- 6th get-together (SUNDAY FEB 13, 2005)


could be sent out as:

Message: 7
Date: Thu,  3 Feb 2005 17:51:36 -0500
From: Desmond Nazareth
To: goanet@goanet.org
Cc: Desmond Nazareth
Subject: [Goanet]THE BLUES  --- 6th get-together (SUNDAY FEB 13, 2005)
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org

THE BLUES  --- 6th get-together (SUNDAY FEB 13, 2005)

Is it possible to implement the above? As it stands right now, I have to scroll
to the end of the message to see who the poster is. It would be of tremendous
help when searching through the archive which currently has the option to sort
by author.

Regards,

Daniel Soares
Stony Brook, NY



[Goanet]Interesting Goa link to a global treasure hunt

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues04/dec04/peoplefile.html

Smithsonian magazine, December 2004

Treasure Quest 

For more than a decade, American Robert Graf has combed the waters of a 
Seychelles island for a multimillion-dollar booty stashed by pirates nearly 
300 years ago 

I've been treading water in a small, man-made lagoon for about half an hour, 
waiting for Robert Graf to surface. The 49-year-old American treasure hunter 
has cordoned off this rectangular swath of Indian Ocean in the Seychelles, and 
now he's somewhere 25 feet below, chiseling off chunks of granite and sucking 
up sand and grit with a four-inch-wide vacuum dredge. He's searching for the 
entrance to a stone vault that he believes contains a pirate hoard—part of 
what many consider the largest high-seas heist in history—stashed nearly 300 
years ago. Back then, locals speculate, the area where we're swimming was dry 
land, the sea held back by a sand berm later destroyed in a storm. 


Graf, a former U.S. Air Force technical instructor, breathes through a 50-foot-
long bright pink hose attached to an air tank on shore. He wears a face mask, 
a tattered wet suit and 26 pounds of lead weight strapped to his waist. Every 
so often I dunk my head, peering through my mask into impossibly blue water. 
At one point a faint shadow glides over the bottom, then vanishes into a dark 
ravine. Moments later there's a creepy scraping sound, like someone prying 
open the lid of a sarcophagus. 

Graf pops up on the other side of the lagoon. I have maybe three or four feet 
to go, he shouts. But I'm running out of air. The noise I heard was Graf 
trying to move several granite slabs, which he says appear to have been hewn 
by hand and stacked in a kind of capstone. He'll be back again tomorrow with a 
fresh air tank, and the day after that too. Off and on for 15 years he has 
been hauling up stone and sand in search of the prize he's confident lies 
beneath the waters of this rocky beach on Mahé, the largest of the 115 
granitic and coralline islands that form the Seychelles. 

Historians believe that cached somewhere in this far-flung archipelago are the 
plunders of Olivier Le Vasseur, aka La Buse, or the Buzzard, a French pirate 
who roamed the Indian Ocean during the early 1700s. In 1721, La Buse, along 
with English pirate John Taylor and their crews, ransacked the Nossa Senhora 
do Cabo, a Portuguese frigate undergoing repairs near Mauritius, about 1,000 
miles south of the Seychelles. The Cabo carried gold, uncut diamonds and 
church regalia belonging to the retiring viceroy of Goa. At the time, Goa was 
a Portuguese colony on the west coast of present-day India. La Buse and Taylor 
made off with the treasure—then valued at more than a million pounds sterling—
and divided the spoils. Most of La Buse's considerable fortune, says Frank 
Sherry, author of Raiders and Rebels: The Golden Age of Piracy, came from his 
capture of the Cabo. French authorities caught up with La Buse a few years 
later near Réunion, a rugged volcanic island south of Mauritius. In 1730, as 
he was about to face the gallows there, the pirate is said to have tossed a 
sheaf of papers into the crowd, taunting his audience with these final 
words: My treasure to he who can understand.

When I arrive on Mahé, it's easy to spot Graf in the crowd at the airport. 
He's the only guy wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the classic pirate ensign—
a skull and crossbones. Tanned and fit, the treasure hunter seems relaxed—
hardly what you'd expect from someone who has spent a third of his life 
obsessed with a long-dead pirate. Yet Graf is no laid-back islander. He's in-
your-face intense right from the start. I'd barely heaved my suitcase into the 
trunk of his rusty compact car when he launched into a breathless retelling of 
how he'd voyaged some 10,000 miles from his Colorado home, married a 
Seychellois hotel reservations manager and spent more than $450,000 of his own 
money looking for a treasure that others have failed to find here for nearly a 
century.

In 1923 a rare storm came through the Seychelles, Graf says as we wind 
through the streets of the capital, Victoria. It eroded many of the beaches. 
One particular beach was in Mahé near the home of Rose Savy, a local 
landowner. Thrashing wind and waves had exposed boulders on her property with 
mysterious markings. According to one version of the story, Savy wrote her 
nephew, who worked at the national archives in Réunion, with news of the 
discovery. He thought the markings might be related to a set of 200-year-old 
papers kept in the archives—the papers, it's believed, that La Buse had flung 
at the crowd before his execution. The nephew sent the papers to Savy. There 
was a cryptogram and four letters, each thought to offer different clues to 
the treasure. 

Graf, who moved to Mahé in 1984 to manage a satellite-tracking station for a 
U.S. defense contractor, first learned about La Buse from a 

[Goanet]Re: GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding E-mail Policy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
  I entirely agree with George Pinto's views on the subject. The old system 
enabled me to hit the delete button in cases where I did not wish to waste 
my time reading some of the drivel which unfortunately still finds its way 
into the posts as soon as I could identify the sender from the subject line 
itself!

---Tony Correia-Afonso
   Benaulim, Goa.



[Goanet]Re.: AIR INDIA - PLANS INITIATIVES

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
---

If AIR-INDIA (AI) is to grow, it needs to improve its attitude,
in terms of in-flight service, connectivity, etc.

Quoting some instances when I flew to Singapore in Dec., 2001.

   - The attitude of the crew towards the passengers ( especially 
 from Chennai - Singapore Sector ) was very rude. 
 Maybe it is due to the fact that majority of the passengers from 
 Chennai were in the income bracket in Singapore.

 On the way back on 19/12/2001), were served a cold meal from 
 Chennai to Mumbai, the bread had frost on it. 
 When inquired from the purser why it was so, was informed that 
 there was no oven on-board. Quering with the purser if he was 
 used to eating frozen bread, drew no response. 

 Could notice NRI passengers from Los Angeles travelling to 
 India via S'pore were given royal treatment with the flight crew 
 at their beck  call, as  when called upon and indifferent 
 attitude towards others.

 On the flight's last leg from Mumbai to Goa, could notice a sea-
 change in the inflight services with the Captain himself giving 
 a running commentary on Goa's beauty, etc., the crew all honey  
 sugar.
 Could the reason in the attitude change, be due to the fact 
 that majority of the passengers were whites ?  

 The discriminatory attitude towards passengers, whichever
 sector it may be, should be done away with, as AI should bear in 
 mind that all passengers irrespective of who they are, pay for 
 their fares.

Even if any complaint would have served any purpose and I doubt any action 
would be taken against the crew's misbehaviour due to their labour union 
affiliations.

By the way could not see any crew (I encountered) sporting their name 
tag plates.

What about direct flights to Goa ?, AI should introduce more 
flights to Goa prefereably on our weekends with competitive fares.

Or, AI should take over atleast one weekly direct flight from Indian Airlines.

Or, how about the Indian Govt. allowing Intl. carriers to fly on the lucrative 
gulf sector with stopovers in Goa.

Atleast there will be competition, breaking the monopoly of Air-India and 
Indian Airlines (IA), which will be beneficial to the public in terms of extra 
weight allowance, change Indian Airlines officials attitude towards the 
passengers.



Welly Dias
Q8 Raupi from Goa.



[Goanet]Re:Goa's Timblo scions in fight ove rempire

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
In  response to GoA's PrIdE www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] following 
posting:
  into.  Sociedade De Fomento was set up under Portuguese law in 1975 

Samir Kelekar responded;
Portuguese law in 1975?

Dear Samir-bab:
As you may be aware, there are some Portuguese civil still prevailing in 
2005, leave alone 1975!
---Tony Correia-Afonso.



[Goanet]Goan Dangerous Substances - from The Times of India

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Goan for the Jocular
by Cecil Pinto
--
The new post 9/11 aviation security rules have a long list of items banned 
inside the airline cabin; powders, pickles, knitting needles, toys 
resembling weapons, ministers... (just kidding about that last one. The 
local airlines would all go broke without our frequent flying ministers). 
Overseas Goans are an apprehensive lot about the consequences of these 
restrictions. To allay their fears I spoke to Captain Avinash Redkar, 
Security-In-Charge at Dabolim airport. He's the one who decides who frisks who!

Cecil: Captain Redkar, What are the common items that overseas Goans take 
abroad that are on the banned list?
Redkar: Actually sir, each Airport has been given it's own authority to 
decide. We have discretionary powers and use pre-set guidelines to decide 
on every item.

Cecil: Could you give us some examples?
Redkar: Well take the multi-layered Bebinca. This is definitely on our 
banned list.

Cecil: Bebinca ? How could that possibly be dangerous?
Redkar: With modern technology one could have different explosive materials 
on different layers. One jab through the middle and the various chemicals 
on the layers combine and explode. Imagine the scenario: A passenger 
standing in the aisle with a Parker pen raised high in one hand, all set to 
poke a round bebinca in his other hand. Everyone crouching in fear, under 
their seats.

Cecil: What about tamarind 'amtam' that is also often carried back?
Redkar: Definitely out. Have you ever seen RDX? It looks exactly like a 
ball of tamarind 'amtam'.

Cecil: I suppose liquids like vinegar can safely be carried?
Redkar: It is almost impossible to distinguish between acetic acid and 
vinegar. One drop of acetic acid on a harmless substance like Goan dodol or 
doce and we have a potentially explosive situation.

Cecil: Folks please do not try this at home. Captian Redkar I suppose 
cashewnuts are a safe bet?
Redkar: Permitted, but only in very small quantities. Maybe a maximum of 
200 grammes per passenger. You see large quantities of cashewnuts, if 
consumed in a hurry, cause flatulence. Imagine this scenario: A passenger 
standing next to the AC air vent with an open packet of cashewnuts. Tell 
the pilot to take this plane to New York immediately. Or else I will eat 
some more cashewnuts!. All the passengers are disgusted by now and have 
their noses covered. The barf bags supply has been exhausted.  They beg the 
cabin staff  Please do whatever he says. We can't take this stink anymore!.

Cecil: What about sausages?
Redkar: Potential killers. Have you seen the fat content in those things? 
Specially the small tiny ones from Agacaim. Polysaturated fat. We could 
have harakiri suicide hijackers threatening to eat sausages and die slowly 
from excess cholesterol. Imagine the scenario.

Cecil: Ok! Ok! I get the picture. So then Caju Feni is a definite no-no?
Redkar:  On the contrary Caju Feni is being viewed favourably by the 
security authorities. It has many medical curative properties that could be 
useful in an emergency. Secondly nobody really gets violent with small 
quantities of Caju. And if the Cashewnut Flatulator Hijacker makes good his 
threat we could just open a bottle of Caju. His smell would be overwhelmed 
by the Caju Feni smell and ...

---
The humour column above appeared in Goa Plus the Friday Magazine section of 
The Times of India on 8th November 2002.

=



Re: [Goanet]Privacy at last!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin

This newfangled invention by the administration without explaining the 
reason in advance appears to be taking a liberty with the participants and 
is particularly heavyhanded.  If people are ashamed of what they write 
sufficient enough not to disclose who they are, they should not 
participate.


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Privacy at last!


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: What is sauce for the goose is sauce for
the gander; I take it, that any post without a
signature or name at the end of the post will be
rejected?
The above should be taken to be a response to a
misfired attempt at sarcasm on my part.
Cheers,
Santosh Helekar
from Chimbel, Goa, India



[Goanet]RE: [Samir]Beginning of the end of Goanet?

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
samir kelekar  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
After Parrikar's govt. it looks like it is going to be the end of Goanet. 
Whoever has come up with this
new procedure should be given a Nobel prize for his ignorance of the 
internet.

he/she should have at least done a preliminary study of how thousands of 
mailing lists exist on the internet which provide good communication as well 
as take  procedures to avoid spam.

Dear Samir,
Don't agree with your heading.
I personally am quite pleased to follow whatever rules Admin has in situ.
Sometimes things do not make sense - but is it that important?
Never understood why Admins try to fix things that are not broken.
Even so, I wouldn't personally lay the blame on Herman - even though he is 
the chair.  This must have been discussed at the board level.

Why the board in its infinite wisdom chose NOT to ask GoaNet members for 
input B4 the system was put into effect , is anyone's guess.

But then ... hopefully - we will try get along with the system until the 
board  decides to revert to one which was working.

Oh Yes.one more thing
just like Santosh is not the same as Halur,  please note that jose isn't 
Bernardo. Never was - Never will be.  RK Nair et al please note.

jose colaco
Carambolim
_
Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! 
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/




[Goanet]Fransa shock Dempo

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Fransa shock Dempo
February 09, 2005 21:34 IST
Federation Cup champions Dempo suffered their first defeat as they went  
down 0-1 to debutants Fransa in a seventh round match of the 9th National  
Football League in Margao, Goa, on Wednesday.

The winning goal came in the 69th minute, when Sebastiao Endro back-headed  
a lob by defender Cersson Antao's to beat the advancing Dempo custodian,  
Satish Kumar.

It was not Dempo's day as the woodwork twice foiled their attempt to take  
the lead in the first half.

Dempo even wasted a penalty in the second half as Fransa 'keeper Kalyan  
Chube, who was declared the man of the match, dived to his left to thrawt  
Ranty Martins's attempt from the spot.

The penalty was awarded by referee Subrata Sarkar after defender A S  
Feroze brought down R C Prakash inside the box.

The victory took Fransa's tally points tally to 13 points from seven  
matches, the same as Dempo, who have played one match less.

East Bengal lead the table with 14 points from six matches.


[Goanet]Lent resolution - get fab abs!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
This Lenten season get healthy!

Excerpts.

How to get fab abs
Most men only want one thing from a diet: a midriff to be proud of. No
wonder a guide to beating the beer gut has become a bestseller in the
States. What's more, it works, says Clint Witchalls
08 February 2005

When I put on weight, it goes straight to my stomach; the rest of me
remains skinny. After Christmas, I resembled a python that had eaten a
Swiss Ball. In diet-speak, I'm an apple rather than a pear. This is a
dangerous shape to be (apple folk tend to die young from heart
disease, whereas pear-shaped people live to a ripe old age, dragging
their saggy arses behind them). I turn 40 this year, so I thought it
might be a good idea to find my abs, as I haven't seen them since
1973.



The book focuses on 12 power foods and an exercise plan. There is no
silver bullet. No simple message like: cut all carbohydrates from your
diet, or only eat foods with a low glycaemic index. Instead, the
authors, David Zinczenko and Ted Spiker, have collated the latest
research on diet and exercise, and put it together in a book that is
readable, blokeish and funny.
.

The exercise plan looked a lot more inviting than the recipes. I
kicked off with the regime on 1 January. In the first two weeks, I
lost 4kg and I can now feel, although not see, my abdominal muscles.
My stomach is flatter than it has been in years, and I'm happy.

..
Zinczenko says that his father led by negative example. He was about
100lb overweight for most of his adult life. I watched him get really
fat, then get high blood pressure, then diabetes, then have a minor
heart attack, and then finally die at 52 of a massive stroke. It made
me think: 'I don't want to do this to my kids'. Today, Zinczenko is a
model of good health, and he wants to share his formula with the
world.
.
I ask Zinczenko if it isn't a frivolous and narcissistic goal to try
to achieve a six-pack. People say that if you want abs, you must be
vain, but it couldn't be further from the truth, he says. There are
lots of health benefits to having a flat stomach. You're going to live
longer; you're going to have a better sex life; you're going to have
more energy; you're going to beat back pain; you're going to be better
at sports - because you're core is the power centre for all of the
body's movement.

Plus, you're going to keep a bunch of diseases and illnesses at bay,
such as heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure and some forms of
cancer. Abdominal fat is the deadliest fat in the whole body.

Zinczenko and Spiker are cautious not to suggest that you can
spot-reduce - an idea that has been rubbished by most dieticians.
Nowhere do they suggest that you can target specific body fat by
eating certain foods. What they do say is that if you lower your body
fat, you'll be likely to notice much of that loss around your middle,
where most of the fat accumulates. In order to lose fat, not only does
Zinczenko advocate eating the right fats (monosaturates and
polyunsaturates) and carbohydrates (complex), he also advocates eating
calcium-rich foods, such as Parmesan cheese. Zinczenko calls calcium
the miracle mineral. For some reason, it seems to have the effect
of preventing or making it harder for new fat to form in the body, and
at the same time helping to strip away existing fat, he says.

The Abs Diet gives the lowdown on all the nutrient-rich foods that we
should be eating more of, as well as foods that should be assiduously
avoided. The two hoodlums that are contributing to the obesity
epidemic are trans fats and high-fructose corn syrup, says Zinczenko.
The problem with high-fructose corn syrup is that it shuts off your
appetite control-switch and makes you hungrier. It's an insidious
substance that encourages you to eat more.

In the early 1970s, if you gave someone a two-litre bottle of Coke
and said, 'drink all of this', they'd be gagging after a few minutes.
Now, with high-fructose corn syrup, you can sit down with a big bottle
of soda and plough through it and still feel thirsty.

Most diet books shy away from the E-word, exercise, but The Abs Diet
contains a photo-illustrated section on exercise, not only to build
powerful abdominal muscles but also the large muscle groups around
your back, shoulders and legs. The idea is that, for each pound of
muscle that you develop, your body needs to burn up 50 extra calories
to maintain that muscle.

The Abs Diet combines exercise with foods that promote muscle growth;
foods that are nutrient-rich and raise your metabolism naturally so
that you can strip away fat. On the Abs Diet, you're encouraged to eat
six times a day: three meals and three snacks. By doing this, you're
sending the signal to your body that there's no famine looming.
Zinczenko believes that one of the reasons that restrictive diets
don't work is that your body is always bracing itself for 

RE: [Goanet]What a Non Goan Indian thinks of Goans

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
[MODERATOR'S REPLY: The original posting is at
http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2005-February/024023.html
In response to VRR's query, we apologise for letting the post in without the
sender's name, as is required. We are getting a lot of messages unsigned
at the end of the post, increasing the workload. On behalf of Goanet Admin,
I regret the error in allowing an unsigned message go through. --FN
(Frederick Noronha), on behalf of Goanet-Admin]

Can someone send me this subject email. I might have missed on that. Am also
eager to know what a Non Goan Indian thinks of Goans.

Karmen Meneses
Kuwait
(A Goan)

-Original Message-

Subject: Re: [Goanet]What a Non Goan Indian thinks of Goans.


How did this unsigned email get past the goanet administration? And in what
way is that silly verse a limerick? Waiting for clarification, Victor
Rangel-Ribeiro 



[Goanet]Lost city in Malaysia... and the Goa link

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Was surfing and came across this recent story about a lost city in Malaysia. 
The comment below, which is linked to Goa and the Portuguese rule, is 
interesting.
FN (Frederick Noronha)
Saligao Goa.

The Star Online  News 
Thursday February 3, 2005 

Lost city believed found in Johor 
BY TEOH TEIK HOONG and AUDREY EDWARDS 

PETALING JAYA: A 1,000-year-old lost city, possibly older than Angkor Wat in 
Cambodia and Borobudur in Indonesia, is believed to have been located in the 
dense jungles of Johor. 

-
COMMENT FROM ANOTHER POSTER ON USENET NEWSGROUPS: Apparently the first 
Portugese expeditionary force which landed in Malacca several years before the 
invasion of 1511 were arrested and put into gaol by the Sultan upon the advice 
of Muslim court advisors from the Indian subcontinent who saw their business 
interests in Goa taken over by the Portugese. The did not want to see the same 
happening in Malacca. The Portugese attacked to the rescue of their compatriots 
and the rest was history. 


regards, 
michael ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India
Freelance Journalist  TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436
http://fn.swiki.net   http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks
fred at bytesforall.org   http://www.bytesforall.org




[Goanet]LPG Consumers Safety Camp at Calangute on Sunday 13th Feb.

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
--
Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660
Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/
--- 

-
LPG Consumers Safety Camp at Calangute on Saturday 13th Feb.
-
The Calangute Residents and Consumer Forum in collaboration with
M/s Teli Gas Service, Calangute is organising a Safety Camp for the
benefit of the LPG consumers of Hindustan Petroleum on Sunday
13th February at 4pm at Little Flower High School, Calangute.
The LPG Safety Camp and Gas Mela is organised by the Distributor
of HP Gas and the Consumer Forum to provide instructions to the
consumers on the safe use of LPG cylinders. Demonstration and
instructions on fitting the gas regulator, detection of gas leakages,
change of rubber tube, insurance cover for consumers, mechanical
check by authorized personnel of the company and emergency
services by Hindustan Petroleum will be provided at the Safety Camp.
The resource person for the program will be Mr. S. Karve
Senior Sales Officer, HP Gas.
Consumers of Calangute are invited to attend the LPG Safety
Camp and take benefit of the services provided.

Press Release from Calangute Residents and Consumer Forum

---
GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
---
an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE
to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa
---
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
website: www.goacan.org
---




Re: [Goanet]Beginning of the end of Goanet?

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Thank you Sam.
Same with me too.
The only things is I don't have to say it again. You have said it all.
 
Floriano

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Beginning of the end of Goanet?


 After Parrikar's govt. it looks like it is going to be the
 end of Goanet. Whoever has come up with this
 new procedure should be given a Nobel prize
 for his ignorance of the internet.
 
 he/she should have at least done a preliminary study
 of how thousands of mailing lists exist on the internet
 which provide good communication as well as take 
 procedures to avoid spam.
 
 Does Goanet have any meaning if the only way one can
 communicate with the poster is via goanet itself? This is
 apart from the fact that the only way to find out who
 has written the post is to actually look at the post. 
 How much can a name signed such as joe can reveal.
 This can waste a huge amount of time.
 
 It is disgusting, and I will have no other way but to be
 out of here if this continues. I surely dont have the time
 to sift through every post.
 
 samir kelekar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 






Re: [Goanet]Is India a racist country (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin

On a recent visit to India, we too paid very high prices for entry
everywhere; as well as to be 'upgraded' from Delhi to Goa (Indian Airlines)
after an accident.  All 'foreigners' are charged exhorbitant prices and that
includes NRI's: non-resident Indians!  Eg  A visit to the Taj Mahal:
resident Indians paid Rs 20 and we paid Rs 750!!

While we concede that non-residents or foreigners should pay more, we find
that the charges are disproportionately higher and grossly unfair.

Edwin  Ivy De Souza
Ph  Auckland  (9) 817 5936
New Zealand
Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:49:21 +
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet]Is India a racist country

 If in the UK I made a racist comment, attempted to charge an Indian or
 indeed any ethnic minority person more for service than a English person
 I would be subjected to the full force of the law.

 Imagine my surprise when taking a trip to Mumbai I found that my airfare
 was twice that of my Indian colleague.  I paid RS7500 and he Rs3500.  My
 seat was next to his so why.  Is this a racist policy being applied to
 white foreigners based on the fact that we do not live in India.

 It got worse as my Indian friend was able to visit Elephanta island
 caves for Rs10 when I had to pay Rs250.  Now that is discrimination.

 It is not that I can not afford the additional costs It is a matter of
 principle

 Dave
 --
 David Futers   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newbiggin by the Sea   http://www.futers.org
 Northumberland
 NE64 6NL  UNITED KINGDOM





[Goanet]Chow-min!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
 

Thank you goanet-admin!  I like this new policy. It even looks artistic to
see *goanet-admin* in the forum archive! From time to time change it to
*chow-min* or *Ho-chi-min*! In any case, I feel better now that I do not see
my e-mail in a list of dozen others at the end of some messages recently! I
was about to ask the sender of those messages to exclude my e-mail from that
blessed list and keep only to his exposure of evils of democracies!

 

Teotonio Souza-min

Portugal

 




[Goanet]Uncle Sam's Catch 22

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
I had been accompanying with quite some interest the discussion on Goanet
about democracies and dictatorships. I wish the discussants could also take
up the following texts into consideration



http://globalresearch.ca/articles/FRA501B.html



and in *Democracy Now* 



http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251



Teotonio R. de Souza

Lxa, Portugal




[Goanet]Feedback to new Goanet posting policy (FN on behalf of Admin Team)

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Dear Goanetters
We've received considerable feedback to the new policy on dropping email 
addresses from the participants' postings.

Needless to say, the Goanet Admin Team will take all points of view into 
account, while adopting a policy that is in the best interest of Goanet 
and its members.

I would like to add that while Herman -- as the Goanet Chair -- as is 
usual took on the responsibility of announcing the new policy, it was a 
decision taken by the Goanet Admin Team (including myself) after 
considerable discussion. So don't criticise Herman as someone who posts 
those crucial posts that seem to carry bad-news ;-)

Another issue that comes up here is that, as a public mailing list, we at 
Goanet really needs a sustainable way of archiving all posts. This would 
help our discussion to continu 'living' on in cyberspace for as long as 
possible.

Goanet is therefore archived at mail-archives.com. This is 
certainly helpful. It ensures that we will *not* simply lose our archives 
if we change servers (as happened with the first five to six years of 
Goanet archives, currently largely untraceable ... meaning we are 
suffering from a lengthy period of lost history).

But on the other hand, it also means that you email address is out there 
on google.com, a situation some may not be happy with, because of its 
implications in terms of spam.

We do understand the points raised, and will do our best to work out a 
suitable fair and satisfactory to most (if not all). Your feedback is 
appreciated, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frederick Noronha (FN)
On behalf of Goanet-Admin Team
(This may be treated as an 'interim' response, to take care of the 
time-zone differences of other Admin Team members. We don't want to make 
it seem that we're not concerned about what members are saying!)



[Goanet]'' MHOZO HERO'' ALBUM RELEASED

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
'' MHOZO HERO'' ALBUM RELEASED
A new Konkani musical album 'Mhozo Hero' (My Hero) has been released and is
on sale in Goa, Mumbai and Kuwait.  'Mhozo Hero', produced by Alfonso Bond
Braganza for Music House Production, Mapusa, consists of 12 soulful new
catchy compositions, each on a different subject, having music arrangement
by Maestro Josinho. The title song is sung by Goa's young singing sensation
Ms.Veeam. The other artists are Prince Jacob, Humberto, Lawry, H. Britton,
Ms.Roshan, Ms.Raisa and Alfonso Bond Braganza. Seven-year-old Junior Bond
makes
his debut in this album by singing a duet with Roshan. Lyrics are written by
Afonso Bond, while the special attraction of this album is a rare appearance
by
Joaquim D'Souza on the flute and Winston Colaco on the violin.
Alfonso Bond and Roshan also do a duet in a inimtable style of late Robin
Vaz.
A mando by Veeam and Lawry steals the hearts of many specially the ones who
have their husbands working on the ship. H. Britton too comes alive with two
naughty songs with a style of his own. Prince Jacob and Supremo Humbert do a
trio with Lawry on the latest political scenes in Goa.
The album is well accepted by the konkani music lovers and is on a fast move
as far as sale is concern. Earlier Alfonso Bond had released Mhaka Jieonk
Dhi album which was also a great success.






[Goanet]For students who want a free website

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
This is a good suggestion that came up from Lawrie, at the ILUG-Goa free 
software website. FN


FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATE: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:49:02 -0800 (PST)
SUBJECT: Budding Web designers
goa-luggers
There are a lot of kids in Goa who would love to have their
own sites or for their school/college projects and have
difficulty getting one. well here's your chance to have one
to display your skill/talent. chose one from any of these
free web hosting sites and show the world that you too can
do it.
http://www.thefreesite.com/Free_Web_Space/



Re: [Goanet]Toilet in front of Cuncolim chapel

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Old is Gold. What a shame.

-- Joaquim Cardozo

 A toilet at Cuncolim was to be constructed in front of St Francis Xavier
 Chapel Maddicotto, but was stopped in the mist of protest. The CMC is yet
 to demolish the incomplete structure even after six months.
 Armstrong Vaz
 Goa



[Goanet]Ciggerette (sic) lighters at Dabolim Airport

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
This problem basically reflects the holy cow attitude to security matters.
It applies at the level of the entire Dabolim airport (vis a vis the Navy)
and it applies at the lowly level of security check before boarding a flight
as in this case. No rational discussion seems possible. These guys seem to
be just following the letter of the law but not the spirit. In their
preoccupation with cigarette lighters (but not firecrackers) who knows what
real security risks the flights to Mumbai and Delhi are running.

Interestingly, the complaint has coincided with a Tourism Ministry campaign
to improve attitudes of  functionaries like taxi drivers, tourist police etc
towards tourists. Goa is reportedly covered in the first phase and the
tourism Minister herself was in town recently to kick it off here.

Unfortunately there is no mention in the news report of airport security
screeners who are undergoing the training. It may even be too late to get
them included in this round. But some urgent efforts should be made to
include them in future.

The paper (HERALD) has even devoted an editorial to the views of the Tourism
Minister i.e. regarding the need for more night life.  The reason for
mentioning this here are twofold.  First of all, wonder of wonders, there is
a stray reference in it to problems at Dabolim for reasons that will be
evident below. But in keepng with the editorial focus on making tourists
(rather than service providers) smile, it talks about the holding up of
planes full of sweating tourists on the tarmac due to lack of parking space.
But in all these months there has been no editorial on the overall Dabolim
problem or even the Indian aviation scene.

But the second and more unfortunate issue is that the editors seem to have a
marked tendency to blow up a simple suggestion into a myriad of problems
requiring solution (such as additional Dabolim terminals). In this way all
efforts to solve a particular problem are nullified because of such
extraneous comments and suggestions.

Philip Thomas
Ribandar-Goa



[Goanet]The Letter and Konknni Machiek Noman

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
T-Bush Bags Award for The Letter
By Welly Dias
As per the brief received from T-BUSH, his film, The Letter  bagged 
the best film award for short films at the International European (Student 
Level) Short Film Awards in Barcelona, Spain on February 01, 2005.

Mar Adentro took the best - director and actor awards. Mar Adentro in 
Hollywood, also received the Hollywood European Award for best film.

The Letter ( shot entirely in Kuwait, directed by T-Bush and produced by 
Panico, London ), is with very good photography and editing.

The short film premiered at a select location in Kuwait on 08th Dec., 
2004 and was also screened during KGTS' mega musical Show  Konknni 
Machiek Noman  on 04th Feb., 2005.


KGTS's Mega Musical Show KONKANNI MACHIEAK NOMAN.
By Welly Dias
The Kuwait Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvsta (KGTS), On 04th Feb., 2005 held its 
mega musical show entiltled  Konknni Machiek Nomann  at GES Auditorium 
Kuwait.

Succor and his ensemble of musicians did a superb job in providing the 
musical score for the show.

Jose Rod's prowess (in presentation, direction, composition and singing) 
were to the fore as his touch was visible during the presentation.

Domnic, John D'Silva, Luis Bachan, Francis de Tuem, Nelson, Mario, Jose 
Rod and others provided the humor element which sent the audience into 
raptures of laughter.

During the course of the show there were solos, duos, trios, etc., which 
the Kuwait based artistes as well as the visiting artistes contributed.

Kuwait based Adolf rendered 2-songs from the Konknni film Bhuerantlo 
Munis. Adolk also lent his vocals to the Tsunami song together with Jose 
Rod and Lorna.

The evening's main draw was none other than Goa's nightingale, LORNA. Her 
rendition of most of the favourite oldies composed by Chris Perry with 
her awesome vocals regaled the audience.

KGTS' beneficiaries ( the senior retired Konknni stage artistes) for this 
year were announced. Trumpeter Agnelo Dias and actress Sabina were 
presented plaques.

Tributes were paid to M. Boyer on being awarded the Padma Shree and also 
the late saxophonist Juju for his contribution to the Konkani stage.

The show was a success with some innovative presentation concepts, good 
crowd attendance, direction, singing, etc.

The KGTS, its members, contributors, artistes, musicians and all are to be 
congratulated for the successful presentation.


Welly Dias.
Q8-Raupi-pun-Goencho
dwelly at rediffmail.com



[Goanet]Sunday Reflections - First Sunday of Lent (Fr Jude Botelho)

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
7-2-05
Dear Friend,

Today we begin a new season, the season of Lent. Lent is associated with
penance and people do not look forward to this season, yet the Church calls
Lent a joyful season because the focus is not so much on penance for the
sake of penance, but rather on preparing for the great mysteries of Easter.
May His Word help us to make right choices. Have a joyful Lenten weekend!
-Fr. Jude

Sunday Reflections: First Sunday of Lent Lead us not into temptation 13-2-05

Readings: Genesis 2:7-9; 3: 1-7; Romans 5: 12-19; Matthew 4: 1-11;

In the first reading from the Book of Genesis we have the story of the
tempting of Adam and Eve and in the Gospel we have the story of the tempting
of Jesus. These are two sophisticated stories, and are not meant to be taken
literally. They are essentially about making choices. The reading from
Genesis tells us that Adam and Eve were given the possibility of making a
choice. The basic fundamental choice was to live for God, dependant and
obedient to His will, or to say 'no' to God, severing themselves from him
and live in the illusion that they did not need God. They were tempted by
the serpent, the symbol of Satan. They were tempted through deceit. They
were tempted to believe that they could be Gods themselves. They disobeyed;
they sinned and had to face the consequences of their choice.

Temptations

An American Indian was giving testimony about temptations. He said, My
brothers, I seem to have two dogs fighting in my heart. One is a very good
dog, a beautiful white dog. He is always watching over my best interests.

The other is a very bad dog, a black dog, who is always trying to destroy a
lot of things that I want to see built up. These dogs give me a lot of
trouble because they are always quarreling and fighting. One of his hearers
asked him. Which one wins? The young man said immediately, The one to
which I say: 'sic em'. -Shades of: If you walk in the Spirit, we will not
fulfill the lusts of the flesh..

H.A. Ironside in 'Tonic for the Heart'

In the second reading from the letter of St. Paul to the Romans Paul reminds
us of the social consequences of sin. Sin is never a private affair
affecting only myself. When we sin all our relationships get affected: our
relationships with our inner self, our relationships with our brothers and
sisters, our relationship with our God and our relationship with nature and
the world in which we live. The harmony is shattered and division and
disintegration sets in. However, Paul reminds us that just as Sin came into
the world through the disobedience of one man, Adam, so through the
obedience of one man, Jesus Christ, forgiveness and reconciliation is
granted to us.

In the gospel we are reminded that just as the first Adam was tempted, so
the new Adam, Jesus Christ was also tempted. Just as Adam and Eve had to
make a choice so Jesus to had to make choices and re affirm his obedience to
doing the will of his Father. Unlike Adam he made an irrevocable decision to
do the Father's will no matter what the consequences. In today's gospel we
see Jesus being tempted by Satan. It is a common practice for great
religious leaders to go to a remote place to be alone with God and their own
thoughts as they prepare to undertake some new direction or vocation in
life. Jesus prepares him self by forty days of prayer and fasting in the
desert. The prayer and fasting is not an end in itself but a preparation for
his mission. Our own prayer and fasting during this season of lent is not an
end in itself but a preparation for our conversion and reconciliation with
God.

Is it a saint or a horse?

Once upon a time a very earnest young man visited a famous rabbi. He told
the rabbi he wanted to become a rabbi and asked for his advice. It was
winter time. The winter stood at the window looking out into the yard while
the rabbinical candidate gave him a glowing account of his piety and
learning. The young man said, You see, Rabbi, I always dress in spotless
white like the sages of old. I never drink any alcoholic beverages; only
water ever passes my lips. I perform numerous penances. For instance, I
always carry sharp-edged nails inside my shoes to mortify me. Even in the
coldest weather, I lie naked in the snow to punish my flesh. And to complete
my penance, I take a dozen lashes every day on my bare back. As the young
man spoke, a stable boy led a white horse into the yard and took him to the
water trough. The horse drank his fill of water, and having done so rolled
in the snow, as horses sometimes do. Just look! cried the rabbi. That
animal too is dressed in white. It also drinks nothing but water, has nails
in his shoes and rolls naked in the snow. Also rest assured, it gets its
daily ration of lashes on the rump from its master. Now I ask you, is it a
saint or is it a horse? -The point the rabbi was making was that penance is
not an end in itself. What is the purpose of penance? It is not meant to
undo the past -the past is done. Nor is it 

Re: [Goanet] GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:22:08 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The previous arrangement allowed me to delete mails
 written by certain folks, even without opening them
 and I am sure many must have been deleting mails with
 my name on it!
 
 
 I think Naguesh and George are right about the above
 problem. There should be a way of getting around it.
 One way would be to reveal the name of the poster
 while keeping his/her email address private. This was
 done on Goanet archives before, and has been done on
 many other mailing list archives such as yahoogroups.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Santosh Helekar
 from Chimbel, Goa

RESPONSE: So who is the person who complained and requested that the
format be changed? Kindly stand up and be counted!! least we assume
that it is just a fabrication on the part of the Admin team.

To Goanet Admin - so far there have been seemingly all negatives,
regarding this new fangled system thrust upon us. As the BJP person
put it Murder at midnight. Help!

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, England



RE: [Goanet] GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
The previous arrangement allowed me to delete mails
written by certain folks, even without opening them
and I am sure many must have been deleting mails with
my name on it!


I think Naguesh and George are right about the above
problem. There should be a way of getting around it.
One way would be to reveal the name of the poster
while keeping his/her email address private. This was
done on Goanet archives before, and has been done on
many other mailing list archives such as yahoogroups.

Cheers,

Santosh Helekar
from Chimbel, Goa



Re: [Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Herman,

This is a lousy idea. Before you put the change in production, you should have 
informed the members about what was coming. Simply based on one members 
suggestions, you went ahead with the change? I have been on this mailing list 
since 1996 and never had problems with the old arrangement. 

Dealing with spammers, is individual responsibility - not GoaNet's.

Please revert back to the old system at your earliest.

Thanks,

Jim Fernandes.
New York.

-- Original message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- 


 Dear Goanet Members, 
 
 
 We made this change based on a suggestion from one of our members. We want to 
 protect your email addresses from spammers and to make it more difficult for 
 them to send you junk mail (spam). Spammers have achieved a high degree of 
 infiltration on the internet. Virtually every public domain is susceptible to 
 them. 
 



Re: [Goanet]Privacy at last!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
RESPONSE: What is sauce for the goose is sauce for
the gander; I take it, that any post without a
signature or name at the end of the post will be
rejected?
 

The above should be taken to be a response to a
misfired attempt at sarcasm on my part.

Cheers,

Santosh Helekar
from Chimbel, Goa, India



Re: [Goanet]What a Non Goan Indian thinks of Goans.

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Apart from Dr. Santosh Helekar who is pleased with
this new format,Halur Rasho must be one happy bunny;
Easter has come early this year !
 

I am sorry I should have pointed out that I was being
sarcastic when I said I liked this new format. I would
also like to state that I am not the person who
suggested this format to the Goanet administrators.
But I understand why they have instituted it. I think
they did it to prevent personalized spam i.e. targeted
spam or abuse against a Goanetter by other Goanetters
who do not like his/her posts, but are too timid, shy
or ashamed to posts those emails on Goanet.

Regarding Halur Rasho, I have no idea what he or she
thinks about this. As I have stated once before, I am
not Halur Rasho. I hope he will reveal his identity
one of these days, and release me of this suspicion
that Mr. Gabe Menezes has about me. 

I don't know what I can do to prove that I am not
Mr./Ms./Mrs. Rasho. It is impossible to gain the trust
of someone on a mailing list such as Goanet. However,
while I am at it I would also like to mention that I
am not Bernado Colaco. The only pseudonym I have used
on Goanet is Pandurang Fernandes, but he has always
posted from my email address, and many of my posts
have had a disclaimer at the bottom indicating that
Pandurang was indeed the alter-ego of Santosh.


Perhaps the Goanet Admin will now put a new format
to the archives, as one will not be able to dig up a
thread by 'Author'.


I think this is definitely a problem. But there should
be an easy solution for it. The archives have never
revealed the email address. They only showed the name
of the poster before. I don't know why that system has
not been maintained. It should be easy to reinstate
it.


Spam can come into your email box through random
selection by new software employed by computer geeks.
So the excuse for this new format does not hold good.
 

As just explained, the spam one is talking about here
is personalized or targeted spam from subscribers of
Goanet to specific email addresses, depending on what
views they express on this list.

Cheers,

Santosh Helekar
(Not now and Never been Halur Rasho)
from Chimbel, Goa, India




[Goanet]The Children of God

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Do you remember the Children of God? I recall this group from the Goa of the 
'seventies. Just came across a link to them on the Internet, which I thought of 
sharing with you.
FN (Frederick Noronha)
At a cybercafe, Panjim
---

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion/browse_thread/thread/3ee55bafea97d2fa/a8adfe30b5fc62b7?q=Goa+India_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3DGoa+India%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#a8adfe30b5fc62b7

The Children of God was founded almost 40 years ago in California. Berg, 
born in 1919, was a radical thinker who believed that he could spread the 
Gospel by embracing the Zeitgeist of the 1960s hippy counterculture. The 
result was a hybrid mix of free love and happy-clappy evangelism that some 
directionless young people found irresistible. Within ten years his 
Christian ministry had attracted thousands of followers worldwide. By the 
late 1970s, by then called The Family, the organisation had set up more than 
150 communes and missions from Glasgow to Goa. Today there are about 12,000 
members living in more than 100 countries. 


Always on the move, Berg, who had renamed himself Moses, ministered to his 
flock through an endless series of Mo Letters that governed every aspect 
of life within The Family. In particular, they espoused sex, and lots of it 
‹ giving and sharing yourself with others as a means of glorifying Christ. 
That message may have been radical for a church, but had the sex remained 
between consenting adults, The Family might have been seen as merely 
eccentric. But in the early days, Berg advocated paedophilia and incest. 





Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India
Freelance Journalist  TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436
http://fn.swiki.net   http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks
fred at bytesforall.org   http://www.bytesforall.org




[Goanet]Candlelight jazz!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Chef Fernando of Nostalgia restaurant at Raia, South
Goa invites you to enjoy an evening of romantic candle
lit jazz featuring Mumbai's jazz virtuosos Yvonne
Gonsalves-vocals, Bonny Remedios-piano/vocals, Colin
D'Cruz-bass and Alan Moraes drums. 14th February, no
cover charge, for reservations call Fernando on
9822103467


=
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Re: [Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Hi Herman,
I too do not agree with the new arrangment.
Regards
Eustaquio
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Goanet Members,
We have changed the delivery option on emails so that our members' email
addresses are kept confidential. As most of you have noticed emails now
display [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the sender's name in the  
FROM
field.

.
We value your feedback.  Please send questions or comments to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Yours sincerely,
Herman Carneiro
Chair
Goanet Admin






RE: [Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Herman,
I don't like your new procedures.
As it is, the Admin team screened all or most of the mails. Even now,
you have the right to reject any unsigned mail or offensive material.
The previous arrangement allowed me to delete mails written
by certain folks, even without opening them and I am sure many
must have been deleting mails with my name on it!
Also, most e-mails are in the public domain and spamming
is a problem that each one has to deal with, on his/her own. I
don't think that I received any spam mails solely by being on the
mailing list of Goanet for a decade.
I am sure there is going to be quite a discussion on this topic alone!
Nagesh Bhatcar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Goanet Members,
We have changed the delivery option on emails so that our members' email
addresses are kept confidential. As most of you have noticed emails now
display [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the sender's name in the FROM
field.
.
We value your feedback.  Please send questions or comments to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Yours sincerely,
Herman Carneiro
Chair
Goanet Admin




[Goanet]Beginning of the end of Goanet?

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
After Parrikar's govt. it looks like it is going to be the
end of Goanet. Whoever has come up with this
new procedure should be given a Nobel prize
for his ignorance of the internet.

he/she should have at least done a preliminary study
of how thousands of mailing lists exist on the internet
which provide good communication as well as take 
procedures to avoid spam.

Does Goanet have any meaning if the only way one can
communicate with the poster is via goanet itself? This is
apart from the fact that the only way to find out who
has written the post is to actually look at the post. 
How much can a name signed such as joe can reveal.
This can waste a huge amount of time.

It is disgusting, and I will have no other way but to be
out of here if this continues. I surely dont have the time
to sift through every post.

samir kelekar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







[Goanet]Green mussels. (GT)

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
GREEN MUSSELS GIVE STRENGTH TO ANTI-AIDS, CANCER CAMPAIGN: Scientists at NIO
have discovered that green mussels, found in abundance in the west coast are
not just a delicacy but it holds tremendous potential for developing
effective drugs for anti-tuberculosis and Gemini virus. In addition to being
an inexpensive source of proteins, green mussels also hold the key to radio
protection for cancer patients. (Preetu Nair in GT)

Also F.Y.I.

http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/286.html

Green-lipped mussel (Perna canaliculus) is a New Zealand shellfish,
from which an extract has been shown to be useful in the treatment of
rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and osteoarthritis (OA).

Green-lipped mussel inhibits inflammation in the body. Although
inflammation is normal under certain conditions, consistent or
excessive inflammation can result in pain and damage to the body,
including the joints. The human body makes several chemical mediators
of inflammation. Levels of these chemicals in the body may be higher
in people with RA who are experiencing symptoms than in symptom-free
people with arthritis.1 Evidence indicates that controlling the
production of inflammatory mediators in the body may help improve
conditions such as arthritis, asthma, psoriasis, and inflammatory
bowel disease (including ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease), all
of which involve elements of inflammation.2

Research on green-lipped mussel has focused primarily on OA and RA.
Although some studies have failed to demonstrate therapeutic benefit
of green-lipped mussel in people with arthritis,3 4 the outcomes of
other studies have been more positive.5 6 7 In one trial, both
freeze-dried powder and lipid extract of green-lipped mussel were
effective at reducing symptoms in 70% of people with OA and 76% of
people with RA.8 A similar study of people with either OA or RA showed
green-lipped mussel reduced pain in 50% and 67% of the patients,
respectively, after three months of supplementation.9

In 1986, dried mussel extracts became available that were stabilized
with a preservative. The earlier studies that found no beneficial
effect of green-lipped mussel on arthritis all used preparations that
had not been stabilized, a point that may help explain some of the
discrepancies in the research. One recent animal study compared the
two forms and found a stabilized lipid extract to be significantly
more effective than a nonstabilized extract at inhibiting
inflammation.10 Because both forms are currently available on the
market, it may be prudent to check on the form.

Nonsteriodal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs), such as aspirin and
ibuprofen, are often used for inflammatory conditions. However, most
of these medications can produce the unfortunate side effect of
stomach irritation, which may lead to stomach ulcer if taken
frequently. One animal study found that green-lipped mussel
significantly reduced stomach ulcers resulting from taking NSAIDs.11

In a double-blind study of people with asthma, supplementation with a
proprietary extract of New Zealand green-lipped mussel (Lyprinol®)
twice a day for 8 weeks significantly decreased daytime wheezing and
improved airflow through the bronchi.12 Each capsule of Lyprinol®
contains 50 mg of omega-3 fatty acids.
Where is it found?

Green-lipped mussels are found in the oceans off New Zealand. In
supplement form, green-lipped mussel is available as a lipid extract
or a freeze-dried powder.

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, England



Re: [Goanet]TUMI AMKAM NAKA

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Sanny bab,

Chalu vorsachea Janerachea 28ver United Club of Utorda
hannim ghoddun haddlelea Ek Ankhi Nattkuleachea
Spordhen ani Fevrerache 4ter KGTS hanchea 'Konknni
Machiek Noman' songit sanz hatunt Jacinto Noronha
hancho tiatr TUMI AMKAM NAKAT annusar vo
announcements kela tem hanvem kan bhor aikolam.

Kuwaitche sthanik (local) kolakorank ghalun Jancinto
aplo tiatr korun soddta mhonn vachun, tachem oprub
dislem. 

Goeamche soire kolakar kitle pasun divertiment ditat
te, atam Kuwaitchea tiatr pollenarank sozmun ailam.

Fuddem voch Jancinto bab..Toxich mhoji vinonti
Kuwait aslelea Goenkar kolakorank, tumi, taka pattimbo
(support) diuncho.

Lino Dourado
 (Kuwait) 



 Chotrai Kuwait show polenarank, ghelea mhoinean
 anven ek anus kelolo Bab Jancinto Noronha hachea
show-a vhoir, vho anus fott nhuim vho show jerul 
 zatolo, tor aiz Bab Jacinto hache thode sobdh haum
tumchea mukar hadtam:- Jacinto Noronha mhunta, 
fokot Kuwait aslele artist zai maka,
Tuje laguim kosli arth assa, thi dakounk porvanghi
 assa tuka, 
Zaite torenchi, veg-vegleanchi, kola polounk meuteli
loka, 
Dekun Otumbra-chea mhoinean, polounk ravatTUMI AMKAM
NAKA.
 
Tarik ani hall-achi mahiti veguinch gomoitele, tor
 toiar ravat, polounk vho atvech torecho show
 TUMI AMKAM NAKA.
 
 Tumcho khalto,
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[Goanet]Salgaocar rally to hold Churchill

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Salgaocar rally to hold Churchill
February 08, 2005 21:49 IST

Salgaocar capitalised on a defensive lapse of Churchill Brothers to hold  
them to a 1-1 draw in a sixth round match in the National Football League  
at Nehru stadium in Margao, Goa, on Tuesday.

Marcos Pereira, who played his first match after being taken on loan from  
Salgaocar, gave Churchill lead in the fifth minute when he floated the  
ball home off a free-kick.

The ball flew past the rival wall and beat goalkeeper Juje Siddi to find  
the far post.

Salgaocar came back strongly in the second half and restored parity  
through Felix Ibrebru in the 60th minute. Samson Singh snatched the ball  
from defender Subhashish Roy Choudhary and relayed it to Ibrebru, who  
after entering the box, beat keeper Mark Mascarenhas with a fine placement.

The draw took Salgaocar to seven points. They moved to sixth place,  
displacing JCT on goal difference while Churchill, who have two points,  
are at the bottom.



[Goanet]Wage a war against British corporate

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
WAGE A WAR FOR A WAGE

Action Alert-IV

Goa Justice and Labour Foundation thanks you once again for your response in
terms of solidarity for our passed three action alerts.

Also our support and appreciation for those attempting to conscientize the
workers on the ruthless exploitation unleashed by the tsunami of
Neo-colonialism-that is represented by the Multinational such as British
corporate - Travelpack.

Multinational corporate migratory Bird Travelpack is sitting exactly in the
heart of Panjim-capital town of Goa-India, employing 135 employees
possessing university degree with pienut as salary.

Workers are working on a shift basis working at the night shift means the
double wages as that of day.

The salaries that are paid do not match the inflation in the market leading
to continuous pauparisation of the working class.

Rice price in kilograms varies from Rs.15 to Rs. 60 the high 
quality Rice Basmati cost Rs.60per kg.
Does the salaries paid in Travelpack permit workers and to their 
families to consume high quality of Rice-Basmati? or is it a 
previlage of the few filthy rich in a Corporate Raj?
Besides Rice ofcourse there are other requirements for daily meal 
of fish, curry, and rice.

Transnational Leasure Corporate Travelpack has continued tightening the belt
of exploitation. Travelpack is busy robbing salaries of Albert Rodrigues who
is working as a Driver with salary of Rs.3380per month.

In a Month of October 2004 Travelpack robbed him by Rs. 465/-

In a Month of November 2004 Travelpack debited his salary of Rs.  465/-
giving false explaination that he has taken as loan.

In a Month of December 2004 Travelpack continued the loan fraud and deducted
more of Rs. 465/- from his salaries.

In a Month of January 2005 loan fraud has continued as there is a further
deduction of Rs. 465/- as loan installments.

Total amount robbed from his salaries (of Rs.1500 Basic) has reached to Rs.
1860/- that means the actual monthly salary in the pass four months is Rs.
1035/- (excluding other allowances).

Once again we acknowledge what it takes to live in the days of inflation:-

Breakfast-50
Lunch-50
Dinner-50
Transport-30
Personal saving-40
Total Rs. 220per day.
So minimum monthly salary one require is Rs. 6600 plus burden of 
different state taxes and bills and rest family expenditure.

Should firms like Travelpack who base their gigentic profits on limitless
labour exploitation be allowed to operate at all in Goa?

The presence of Travelpack is more of a Curse to Goa. than a Boon; siphoning
the pockets of workers is a casual activity e.g. salary deduction and loan
deduction (more of fraud) of Albert Rodrigues.

Travelpack dictates the labour polices and not the working class-even though
the brunt is beared by the workers. On the one side there is salary
deduction and on the other side there is inflation, to add insult to the
injury, there is no corresponding rise in the wages. This situation of
humiliation of working class must be stopped.

Goa Justice and Labour Foundation demands the following from Travelpack
-immediately.

1.  Payment of Rs. 09 Million (112500 Pounds) (152542.37 Euros)
(209302.33 Dollars) as damages for Mental Torture due to Travelpacks fraud
labour practices meted out to Albert Rodrigues and his Family.

2.  Deducted amount (Robbed) so far from Albert Rodrigues salaries be
repaid with interest.

3.  Daytime salaries be revised and increased. Night time salaries be
doubled to all the Travelpack-Goa's 135 employees.


Appeal for solidarity Action:-

*   Speak to tourist about the labour exploitation carried out by 
British Corporate-Travelpack in Goa.

*   Enlist support of the International and Domestic travellers 
against murdourious practice carried on by Travelpack to torture workers in
Goa.

*   Request workers of the world to Think, Speak, Write, Publish, and
Circulate the atrocities caused by corporate capitalism.



Please log on for our

Action Alert-I [What happen to Albert Rodrigues (27)?]
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@goanet.org/msg18440.html

Action Alert-II [Workers Rights are Human Rights]
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@goanet.org/msg19667.html

Action Alert-III [Capitalist calamity]
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@goanet.org/msg21149.html

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[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes.

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
Yes, we certainly collaborated with the Congress to bring down the Parrikar
government. But, our future relations with the Congress depends on many
factors. -- Maverick politician and UGDP leader Radharao Gracias, in Herald.

RESPONSE: The lone UGDP member in the Legislative Assembly continued
to support the then Govt (BJP). What kind of support does Mr. Gracias
believe was given to the Congress party other then verbal noise ?
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, England



[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes: Feb 09, 2005 * Rane allots portfolios; party-hoppers get rewarded

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
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G o a n e t - N e w s   B y t e s  FEBRUARY 09, 2005  DATELINE: GOA
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QUOTES OF THE DAY: There are things that have happened 400-500 years ago,
and today we should not use it to give a wrong impression on younger minds.
-- Chief minister Pratapsing Rane, on the controversial VCD promoted by the
earlier BJP government, which now stands withdrawn.
Yes, we certainly collaborated with the Congress to bring down the Parrikar
government. But, our future relations with the Congress depends on many
factors. -- Maverick politician and UGDP leader Radharao Gracias, in Herald.
FRONT PAGE * FRONT PAGE * FRONT PAGE * FRONT PAGE
* Rane allots portfolios to five ministers. Rane holds
home, finance, general administration. Filipe Neri
Rodrigues (dy CM) gets water resources, Rural Dvpt,
and the light-weight weights and measures. Dr Wilfred
de Souza (dy CM) gets tourism. Sudin Dhavlikar (PWD,
fisheries, archives, archaeology  museum), Pandurang
Madkaikar (transport, revenue and river navigation) and
Isidore Fernandes (industry, trade and commerce) are
the other party-hoppers rewarded for making the ouster
of the BJP government possible.
* Vajpayee terms Goa govt change as warning bell for democracy NT
* Mystery surrounds the whereabouts of Matanhy Saldanha,
  with rumour-mongers seeing him possibly shifting over to
  to support the Congress. (GT)
* Goa's new ministers have no-where to function from.
  New secretariat is under the custody of the Speaker,
  who has not recognised the Rane government. (H)
THE WORLD OUTSIDE POLITICS * THE WORLD OUTSIDE POLITICS
* IT raids Vicco Lab unit and owner's home in Goa. (NT)
* Vatican updates code on marriage annulment. (NT)
* Green mussels give strengths to anti-AIDS, cancer
  campaign, say NIO scientists in Goa. (GT)
* Goa has not made efforts to update its IT syllabus. (GT)
* Maternity leave hiked to six months for Goa govt staff. (H)
* Talk of Pope resigning fuelled by latest illness. (AFP)
--
ONCE OUT OF POWER..
--
Herald's photos by Rosario Estibeiro say it all. On Feb 1, it was a
full-house protesting the dismissal of the Parrikar government. One week
later, and out of power, there were few takers to the BJP charna (protest)
at Panjim's Azad Maidan, as the paper put it. Page 1, Herald.
--
NEWS LINKS FROM GOA: 
--
* Poor response to BJP dharna
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=270

THIS IS A STORY WORTH READING * CLICK ON THIS LINK !!!
* UGDP:  From BJP sister concern to Congress collaborator
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=269
* Goa freedom struggle VCD out; CBI is back
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=268
* Rane allots portfolios to five ministers
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=267
* Velim panchayat deputy voted out
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=265
* Mascarenhas comes back as captain of ports
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=264
* Sahakar Bhandars (cooperative supermarkets) to be computerised
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=263
* High command will decide my fate: Luizinho
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=262
* Benaulim locals stop work on mobile tower
http://www.oherald.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=261
* Mayawati defends Goa government sacking
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnewsid=69665
* (BJP-dominated alliance) NDA launches stir against Goa dismissal 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1015464.cms

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VILLAGE GOA:
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* Swedish reality TV participants took part in the CALANGUTE carnival.
* In ASSAGAO, four pythons were caught from a well.
* KAVLEM and neighbouring Ponda villages come alive with the 8-day zatra.
* Heritage village of ASSAGOA may become village of garbage. (H)
--
FEASTS, FESTIVALS AND 

Re: [Goanet]Privacy at last!

2005-02-09 Thread goanet-admin
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:51:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this new procedure a little bit. It respects
 the privacy of one's email address, and avoids
 personalized spam. I would have liked complete
 anonymity, but the Goanet administrators apparently do
 not approve of it. They rejected my following message
 twice, presumably on the grounds that I had not signed
 my name at the bottom:
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Santosh

RESPONSE: What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; I take
it, that any post without a signature or name at the end of the post
will be rejected?


-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon, London.



[Goanet]KUNG HEI FAT CHOI

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
Just got some greetings from cousins in Macao.

Year of the Monkey is over.  Now starts the Year of
the Cock. 

Understand Macao is resplendent with decorations and
the joyous racket that goes with any festivities. 

--

Melbourne too is having its own festivities this
weekend, with my neighbouring Preston market having a
big parade (and discounts at all the shops/market
stalls) to welcome the Year of the Cock. 

This is probably the only time of the Year that
crackers are fired in the City of Melbourne at Little
Bourke St (commonly known as ChinaTown) and Swaston
Street. 

Note that the present Mayor of Melbourne City is a
first-generation Chinese - John So.  He was criticised
for his poor mastery of the English language during
the last elections by his opponents, but nevertheless,
he has succeeded in retaining his seat for the second
consecutive term. 

Cheers,

Gabriel de Figueiredo.
Melbourne - Australia.
ex Ponjekar ani Lotlekar.

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Re: [Goanet]What a Non Goan Indian thinks of Goans.

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
How did this unsigned email get past the goanet administration? And in what way 
is that silly verse a limerick?
Waiting for clarification,
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro



Re: [Goanet]Re: Is India a racist country

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I agree with Mario here. Is Gabriel suggesting that
 the parents were 
 foreign nationals but got the cheaper air fares just
 because of their skin 
 colour? In this case, they were lucky but --
 knowingly or otherwise -- 
 violating the rules.
 

I don't know if I missed making a point somewhere. The
parents AND the girl were Indian nationals (Goan)
then.  The fact is none of them could speak proper
Hindi - Konkani and English being OK. As I said
before, they were touring India before they migrated
to Australia (Tasmania).  I understand that the
youngster was often stopped at the historic sites and
questioned on tickets because she looked totally
unlike her parents.  The ones who violated the rules
were the so-called authorities at the gates of the
various historic sites, because at the time, they were
all Indians from Goa.

Cheers,

Gabriel de Figueiredo
Melbourne - Australia.
ex Ponjekar ani Lotlekar.

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[Goanet]Re: GOANET ADMIN: Announcement regarding Email Privacy

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
I disagree with this new policy for a couple of reasons:

1. I sort my in box by sender, and only read certain posters to Goanet more 
than threads or
subjects.  I do not want to wade through the 40-50 emails every day to look for 
certain senders. 
The new policy is not a small price to pay, it is a big price to pay.
2. I am appreciate the Admin's concern for privacy, but spam is all over. The 
spammers already
have my email address, Goanet cannot help any further or at this stage.
3. The suggestion of one member should have been offered to the group before 
implementation,
assuming the group agreed.
4. I do not wish to sign my city and country, that is a bigger privacy 
give-away than an email
address.  But I don't mind signing my full name.

Regards,
George Pinto


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Goanet Members,
 
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 We made this change based on a suggestion from one of our members. We want to 
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 I'm sure that the new option is undesirable from the standpoint of 
 personalizing the forum. Sifting through emails might become more time 
 consuming. However, this is a small price to pay for the security provided by 
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 One way to help members sort through their emails is not to change the 
 subject 
 of the thread to which you are replying. This ensures that messages in a 
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 Given that members' email addresses are concealed, we're requesting that you 
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[Goanet]Privacy at last!

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
I like this new procedure a little bit. It respects
the privacy of one's email address, and avoids
personalized spam. I would have liked complete
anonymity, but the Goanet administrators apparently do
not approve of it. They rejected my following message
twice, presumably on the grounds that I had not signed
my name at the bottom:

I like this new procedure of not revealing the
identity of the poster. It eliminates the need to have
a false identity. It also discourages posts containing
silly name-calling and wasteful clashes between
personalities. Let us now hope that no poster types
his or her name at the end of each post. That way
people would be forced to address solely the substance
of each post, and not feel tempted to express their
love or lack thereof for its author. In keeping with
this hope I am not going to sign my name below.

I am forced to sign my name below.

Cheers,

Santosh





[Goanet]Re: Goans and Caste

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
In response to Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But perhaps if Cornell and others feel there is casteism in Goa's  
Catholic church and DISCRIMINATION OF LOWER CASTE and want do something 
about it (rather than just talk and write), they can offer financially 
support for the cost of seeking vocations and training of lower caste  
priests in Goa's seminary

George Pinto wrote

The issue is not a lack of funding... The issue is whether there is a will 
among church authorities and the laity to end the caste system practiced by 
some Goan Catholics

Well said George.

And Catholics who normally  make a big spiel about cafeteria catholicism  
may wish to understand very clearly that:

1. The Caste System is contrary to Christ-ianity
2. That the Death Penalty is contrary to the Commandment which says - Thou 
Shalt NOT kill .

regards

jose colaco
Carambolim-Velim



[Goanet]Goa CM allocates portfolios

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
Goa CM allocates portfolios

February 08, 2005 20:10 IST


Nearly a week after he was sworn in, the Goa Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane 
allocated portfolios to his ministers on Tuesday.

The former Bharatiya Janata Party ministers who had crossed over to the 
Congress retained their old portfolios, while two Congress members in the 
Cabinet refused to accept any ministry until the government proved its 
majority on the floor of the House.

Former BJP minister Pandurang Madkaikar retained the transport and revenue 
portfolios, while Sudin Dhavalikar of Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party retained 
public works department, fisheries and archives departments. Independent MLA 
Filipe Neri Rodrigues was allotted water resources.

Isidore Fernandes, who along with Atanasio Monserrate had led the revolt 
against the BJP, was allotted the industries ministry. 

Given the dicey situation in the assembly, the survival and stability of 
government is dependent on the support of MGP, Nationalist Congress Party and 
the former BJP MLAs, whose resignation triggered the chain of events leading 
to the fall of the Manohar Parrikar government.

Both Congress ministers, Luisinho Faleiro and Dayanand Narvekar, have refused 
to accept a portfolio for now. Dr Wilfred D'Souza of NCP will handle tourism 
for now and we may consider giving him more ministries later, Rane said. 

On whether there would be two deputy chief ministers, Rane, who was sworn in 
on February 2 soon after the dismissal of the Parrikar government, said, Yes. 
There will be two posts. I don't mind having two deputy chief ministers. In 
fact they are all my DCM's.

However, he did not say whether the two DCMs would be Rodrigues and D'Souza, 
whose names were doing the rounds.



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[Goanet]Cong orchestrated Parrikar govt ouster: NDA

2005-02-08 Thread goanet-admin
Cong orchestrated Parrikar govt ouster: NDA 

New Delhi, Feb 8: Bringing the dismissal of the BJP government in Goa to the 
forefront of its campaign against the UPA government, the opposition NDA today 
hit the streets accusing the Centre of orchestrating the ouster and 
indicated that it will stall the proceedings in the coming budget session of 
Parliament on the issue. 

Kick-starting its nationwide agitation against the dismissal of the Manohar 
Parrikar government, the NDA staged a day-long sit-in here demanding its 
reinstatement and recall of Governor S C Jamir. 

Lashing out at the Congress, BJP president L K Advani said, The question is 
not about the dismissal of Goa government. It is about the Congress' attitude 
towards democracy. 

Whenever the Congress feels that it is losing its primacy, it never believes 
in democracy and tramples democracy, and this agitation is to save the power 
of democracy, he said. 

Asserting that the Governor has set a dangerous precedent, Advani said, Our 
constitutional fathers have never imagined that Article 164, which says a 
particular state government can remain in power only when the Governor has 
full pleasure in it, would be used in this manner. 

He claimed that the direction to dismiss the government was given in advance, 
even before the trial of strength on the floor of the House. 

Addressing the gathering, BJP general secretary Sushma Swaraj said normal 
functioning of Parliament during the budget session would not be possible in 
the given situation.

Parrikar, who was also present, alleged that he was a victim of a conspiracy 
hatched by the Congress. 

Goa was the leading state in the country in terms of development and figures 
by the RBI and the Planning Commission are proof to that. 

Since the UPA government came to power, they started attempts to dethrone my 
government. First they removed the Governor and then sent a person, who 
himself has six defection cases against him, with a single target to 
destabilise the government, he charged. 

In a show of strength, all top BJP leaders, including Chief Ministers of 
Gujarat, Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh, NDA convenor George Fernandes, 
leaders from Shiromani Akali Dal, Trinamool Congress and Biju Janata Dal 
participated in the sit-in. (Agencies)

 
Published: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 


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