Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA:NTA and VISTA:NTB (Again...)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

This is what the data dictionary said:

DATA  NAMEGLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE   LOCATION  TYPE
---

14.7,10   OUT OF SERVICE 0;11 SET (Required)

'0' FOR NO;
'1' FOR YES;
  LAST EDITED:  JAN 18, 1994
  HELP-PROMPT:  Answer YES to prevent any taskman jobs being
   sent to this cpu.
  DESCRIPTION:  This field is used by the TASK Manager to
   control if any new sub-manager jobs are sent to
   this Box-Volume Pair.  If the manager gets an
   error when jobbing to another CPU it will
  change the flag to mark the Box-Volume as Out
   of Service.

And this is how I think you get rid of the extra BOX:VOLUME pairs:

>D P^DI

VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS//
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL//
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?
  Cache:Cacheweb
  VISTA:NTA
  VISTA:NTB
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:NTA
BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:NTA// @ 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA:NTA and VISTA:NTB (Again...)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

OPS. Look what I found from a bona fide expert.  My solution is probably 
not the one you should choose as it may not be a solution at all.

Re: [HARDHATS] Need help with volume-box pair
 Date: Tue Mar  2 01:45:14 2004
 From: "Rick Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (WorldVistA)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Dear Mr. Toppenberg,

Roy is quite right that in this case you want to select the existing
entry and alter it. If you were instead to add a new entry, you would
subsequently want to remove the existing entry anyway, so you might as
well just change it to what you want.

In general, however, to add a new entry that partially matches an
existing entry, simply surround the new entry in quotes, e.g.:

"VISTA:CACHE"

That forces FileMan to ignore matches and simply add the new entry. You
can use this same techniques to force in duplicates (which is
appropriate in some situations), e.g.:

"VISTA:CACHEWEB"

The TaskMan Site Parameters file, of course, is not one of those where
you want to have duplicates. Indeed, you do not want to have any
extraneous entries in this file. Keep only those that describe real
environments on your system. Delete all the rest. This file lists the
legitimate environments and applies parameters to them. As a result, it
has such a dramatic effect on TaskMan's behavior that you want to keep
it tightly under control to avoid any confusion.

Yours truly,
Rick Marshall





On Wednesday 02 February 2005 07:20 pm, Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> First, do this, and make sure you get Cache:Cacheweb for the Box:Volume
> pair (which is really VOLUME:BOX).
>
> How I handled this was to go into Taskman Site Parameters and make these
> two inactive
>
> VISTA>D GETENV^%ZOSV
>  
> VISTA>W  Y
>
> Which give you in the output in the respective places:
>
> UCI^VOL^NODE^BOX:VOLUME
>
> Then in the Taskman Site Parameters, make VistA:NTA and VISTA: NTB out of
> service.
>
> >D P^DI
>
> VA FileMan 22.0
> Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
> INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS//
> EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// OUT OF SERVICE
> THEN EDIT FIELD:
> Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ??
>
> Entering ?? at this point will probably give you information to do the same
> thing I just told you to do with D GETENV 
>
> Anyway, put these two extras out of service by entering YES for OUT OF
> SERVICE.
>
> Then the next problem may come when you are done and start up Taskman and
> then check D ^ZTMON as you may find out there are tasks left for those two
> entries.  If you do, write back as it will take me a while to look back
> through my notes to find out what to do when that happens, or hopefully a
> guru will see this flaky answer of mine and tell us both what to do about
> it!
>
> On Wednesday 02 February 2005 04:31 pm, Debian User wrote:
> > Hello Friends,
> >
> > I'm installing VistA once again on a new machine. I ran into the same
> > problem as before but I don't see there wasn't a definite solution.
> >
> > On Step 47, it says to get the proper value for the BOX-VOLUME PAIR into
> > the TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS. The example says I should see a screen like
> > the following:
> >
> > Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?
> > Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR:
> > VISTA:CACHE
> >
> > But my screen looks like the following:
> >
> > Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?
> > Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR
> > Choose from:
> >VISTA:NTA
> > VISTA:NTB
> >
> > My screen does, however, say that "The value for the current account is
> > VISTA:CACHEWEB" (same as the example).
> >
> > In the past, I ignored this difference. This time, since I'm doing a
> > clean install much more carefully, I want to know how I should handle
> > this before proceeding. Perhaps we can document this carefully for the
> > future.
> >
> > What's the story on VISTA:NTA and VISTA:NTB; what should I do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Takahiro
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Press Release: Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining Funding for Electronic Health Records

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

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On Wednesday 02 February 2005 04:31 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> And how much is the time that you would spend researching grants worth?
> I'm not saying you should do it, but the price doesn't sound
> outrageous.
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was excited until I saw the price tag
> >
> > "Pay $199, and we'll help you see if you are a
> > candidate for a grant..."
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > FYI.  Maybe we can get some ideas about funding help
> > > for VistA adopters.
> > >
> > > --  Forwarded Message  --
> > >
> > > Subject: Press Release: Audio Conference Presents
> > > Strategies for Obtaining
> > > Funding for Electronic Health Records
> > > Date: Tuesday 01 February 2005 05:12 pm
> > > From: Healthcare Update News Service
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > PRESS RELEASE: Audio Conference Presents Strategies
> > > for Obtaining Funding for
> > >  Electronic Health Records
> > >
> > > -- HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources
> > > and Strategic
> > >  Considerations for Electronic Health Records in
> > > Feb. 24 Briefing
> > >
> > > PRESS RELEASE
> > > Contact: Physician's EHR
> > > Phone: 919-654-6796
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Website: www.physiciansehr.com
> > >
> > > Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining
> > > Funding
> > > for Electronic Health Records
> > > HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources and
> > > Strategic
> > > Considerations for Electronic Health Records in Feb.
> > > 24 Briefing
> > >
> > > RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, NC USA -- HEALTHCARE UPDATE
> > > NEWS SERVICE(TM) --
> > >  FEBRUARY 1, 2005: Even with the White House's
> > > strong support for electronic
> > >  health records (EHRs), the transition to this
> > > technology remains a perilous
> > >  proposition for most healthcare organizations that
> > > face daunting and
> > >  complicated decisions.
> > >
> > > To help overcome the economic and technical
> > > challenges, Physicians EHR is
> > >  sponsoring a groundbreaking 90-minute audio
> > > seminar, Real-World Strategies
> > >  for Obtaining Funding for EHRs. In an executive
> > > briefing on Feb. 24, 2005,
> > >  HHS and national experts will explain funding
> > > sources and strategic
> > >  considerations for electronic health records.
> > >
> > > The seminar faculty features some of the leading
> > > national authorities on
> > >  electronic health records:
> > >
> > > -- P. Jon White, M.D., portfolio manager with the
> > > Agency for Healthcare
> > >  Research and Quality, family physician, experienced
> > > in healthcare IT
> > >  development and implementation in the ambulatory
> > > and acute settings, and was
> > >  most recently CMIO and associate residency director
> > > of Lancaster General
> > >  Hospital in Pennsylvania.
> > >
> > > -- Dan Gaylin, Senior Vice President

Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA:NTA and VISTA:NTB (Again...)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

First, do this, and make sure you get Cache:Cacheweb for the Box:Volume pair 
(which is really VOLUME:BOX).

How I handled this was to go into Taskman Site Parameters and make these two 
inactive

VISTA>D GETENV^%ZOSV
 
VISTA>W  Y

Which give you in the output in the respective places:

UCI^VOL^NODE^BOX:VOLUME

Then in the Taskman Site Parameters, make VistA:NTA and VISTA: NTB out of 
service.  

>D P^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS//
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// OUT OF SERVICE
THEN EDIT FIELD:
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ??
  
Entering ?? at this point will probably give you information to do the same 
thing I just told you to do with D GETENV 

Anyway, put these two extras out of service by entering YES for OUT OF 
SERVICE.

Then the next problem may come when you are done and start up Taskman and then 
check D ^ZTMON as you may find out there are tasks left for those two 
entries.  If you do, write back as it will take me a while to look back 
through my notes to find out what to do when that happens, or hopefully a 
guru will see this flaky answer of mine and tell us both what to do about it!

  
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 04:31 pm, Debian User wrote:
> Hello Friends,
>
> I'm installing VistA once again on a new machine. I ran into the same
> problem as before but I don't see there wasn't a definite solution.
>
> On Step 47, it says to get the proper value for the BOX-VOLUME PAIR into
> the TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS. The example says I should see a screen like
> the following:
>
> Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?
> Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR:
> VISTA:CACHE
>
> But my screen looks like the following:
>
> Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?
> Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR
> Choose from:
>VISTA:NTA
> VISTA:NTB
>
> My screen does, however, say that "The value for the current account is
> VISTA:CACHEWEB" (same as the example).
>
> In the past, I ignored this difference. This time, since I'm doing a
> clean install much more carefully, I want to know how I should handle
> this before proceeding. Perhaps we can document this carefully for the
> future.
>
> What's the story on VISTA:NTA and VISTA:NTB; what should I do?
>
> Thanks,
> Takahiro
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Press Release: Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining Funding for Electronic Health Records

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Sorry, if I had read to the bottom, I wouldn't have sent it.  When I saw HHS, 
I figured it was a freebee!  That is one heck of an expensive telephone call!

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 04:16 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I was excited until I saw the price tag
>
> "Pay $199, and we'll help you see if you are a
> candidate for a grant..."
>
> Kevin
>
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > FYI.  Maybe we can get some ideas about funding help
> > for VistA adopters.
> >
> > --  Forwarded Message  --
> >
> > Subject: Press Release: Audio Conference Presents
> > Strategies for Obtaining
> > Funding for Electronic Health Records
> > Date: Tuesday 01 February 2005 05:12 pm
> > From: Healthcare Update News Service
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > PRESS RELEASE: Audio Conference Presents Strategies
> > for Obtaining Funding for
> >  Electronic Health Records
> >
> > -- HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources
> > and Strategic
> >  Considerations for Electronic Health Records in
> > Feb. 24 Briefing
> >
> > PRESS RELEASE
> > Contact: Physician's EHR
> > Phone: 919-654-6796
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Website: www.physiciansehr.com
> >
> > Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining
> > Funding
> > for Electronic Health Records
> > HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources and
> > Strategic
> > Considerations for Electronic Health Records in Feb.
> > 24 Briefing
> >
> > RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, NC USA -- HEALTHCARE UPDATE
> > NEWS SERVICE(TM) --
> >  FEBRUARY 1, 2005: Even with the White House's
> > strong support for electronic
> >  health records (EHRs), the transition to this
> > technology remains a perilous
> >  proposition for most healthcare organizations that
> > face daunting and
> >  complicated decisions.
> >
> > To help overcome the economic and technical
> > challenges, Physicians EHR is
> >  sponsoring a groundbreaking 90-minute audio
> > seminar, Real-World Strategies
> >  for Obtaining Funding for EHRs. In an executive
> > briefing on Feb. 24, 2005,
> >  HHS and national experts will explain funding
> > sources and strategic
> >  considerations for electronic health records.
> >
> > The seminar faculty features some of the leading
> > national authorities on
> >  electronic health records:
> >
> > -- P. Jon White, M.D., portfolio manager with the
> > Agency for Healthcare
> >  Research and Quality, family physician, experienced
> > in healthcare IT
> >  development and implementation in the ambulatory
> > and acute settings, and was
> >  most recently CMIO and associate residency director
> > of Lancaster General
> >  Hospital in Pennsylvania.
> >
> > -- Dan Gaylin, Senior Vice President and Director of
> > National Opinion
> >  Research Center (NORC) at the University of
> > Chicago; recently granted a
> >  multi-million dollar, multi-year contract to
> > establish and operate the
> >  National Health Information Technology Resource
> > Center.
> >
> > -- Carolyn P. Hartley, lead author, EHR
> > Implementation: A Step by Step Guide
> >  for the Medical Practice; Editor, Publisher,
> > Physicians e-Health Report;
> >  President, CEO, Physicians EHR, LLC.
> >
> > PARTICIPANTS WILL BE BRIEFED ON:
> > -- What to look for in an EHR system;
> > -- Real costs associated with implementing an EHR;
> > -- What constitutes a great grant?
> > -- What strategies will boost your grant appeal?
> > -- Seven key elements that grant reviewers look for
> > in a grant proposal;
> > -- Are you a candidate for a federal grant?
> > -- What is AHRQ looking to fund in HIT?
> > -- Alternative strategies for funding your EHR
> > -- And much more.
> >
> > WHO SHOULD ATTEND:
> > -- Physician Practices
> > -- Academic Medical Centers
> > -- State and Local Health Agencies
> > -- State Medical Societies
> > -- Healthcare CIOs
> > -- Healthcare CFOs
> > -- EHR Vendors
> >
> > WHAT IS AN AUDIO SEMINAR?
> > Our audio seminars are live events that include
> > session handouts and briefing
> >  materials, an interactive question-and-answer
> > period, and access for an
> >  unlimited number of participants at each call-in
> > site.
> >
> > WHEN: Feb. 24, 2005 1:00 p.m. to 2

[Hardhats-members] Press Release: Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining Funding for Electronic Health Records

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

FYI.  Maybe we can get some ideas about funding help for VistA adopters.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Press Release: Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining
Funding for Electronic Health Records
Date: Tuesday 01 February 2005 05:12 pm
From: Healthcare Update News Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PRESS RELEASE: Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining Funding for
 Electronic Health Records

-- HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources and Strategic
 Considerations for Electronic Health Records in Feb. 24 Briefing

PRESS RELEASE
Contact: Physician's EHR
Phone: 919-654-6796
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: www.physiciansehr.com

Audio Conference Presents Strategies for Obtaining Funding
for Electronic Health Records
HHS and National Experts Explain Funding Sources and Strategic
Considerations for Electronic Health Records in Feb. 24 Briefing

RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, NC USA -- HEALTHCARE UPDATE NEWS SERVICE(TM) --
 FEBRUARY 1, 2005: Even with the White House's strong support for electronic
 health records (EHRs), the transition to this technology remains a perilous
 proposition for most healthcare organizations that face daunting and
 complicated decisions.

To help overcome the economic and technical challenges, Physicians EHR is
 sponsoring a groundbreaking 90-minute audio seminar, Real-World Strategies
 for Obtaining Funding for EHRs. In an executive briefing on Feb. 24, 2005,
 HHS and national experts will explain funding sources and strategic
 considerations for electronic health records.

The seminar faculty features some of the leading national authorities on
 electronic health records:

-- P. Jon White, M.D., portfolio manager with the Agency for Healthcare
 Research and Quality, family physician, experienced in healthcare IT
 development and implementation in the ambulatory and acute settings, and was
 most recently CMIO and associate residency director of Lancaster General
 Hospital in Pennsylvania.

-- Dan Gaylin, Senior Vice President and Director of National Opinion
 Research Center (NORC) at the University of Chicago; recently granted a
 multi-million dollar, multi-year contract to establish and operate the
 National Health Information Technology Resource Center.

-- Carolyn P. Hartley, lead author, EHR Implementation: A Step by Step Guide
 for the Medical Practice; Editor, Publisher, Physicians e-Health Report;
 President, CEO, Physicians EHR, LLC.

PARTICIPANTS WILL BE BRIEFED ON:
-- What to look for in an EHR system;
-- Real costs associated with implementing an EHR;
-- What constitutes a great grant?
-- What strategies will boost your grant appeal?
-- Seven key elements that grant reviewers look for in a grant proposal;
-- Are you a candidate for a federal grant?
-- What is AHRQ looking to fund in HIT?
-- Alternative strategies for funding your EHR
-- And much more.

WHO SHOULD ATTEND:
-- Physician Practices
-- Academic Medical Centers
-- State and Local Health Agencies
-- State Medical Societies
-- Healthcare CIOs
-- Healthcare CFOs
-- EHR Vendors

WHAT IS AN AUDIO SEMINAR?
Our audio seminars are live events that include session handouts and briefing
 materials, an interactive question-and-answer period, and access for an
 unlimited number of participants at each call-in site.

WHEN: Feb. 24, 2005 1:00 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time
WHERE: Your Office

REGISTRATION
We Offer Three Convenient Ways To Register:

1. Go online by visiting www.physiciansehr.com and select Strategies for
 Obtaining Funding from the main page. 2. Call us at (919) 654-6796.
3. Fax your order to 919-573-0430. To download the order form, visit
 www.physiciansehr.com/download/AudioConfOrder.htm.

COST:
-- Audio conference registration and briefing materials, $199 per call-in
 line -- Audio conference and briefing materials per call-in line plus a CD
 set of the seminar that can be used for education and training, $249

CAN'T MAKE THE DATE, BUT WISH YOU COULD ATTEND?
CD recordings of the seminar and briefing materials are available for $199.

For more information, go to www.physiciansehr.com, or contact
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], or call us at 919-654-6796.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where's the Consortium?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

All the companies are listed here:

http://www.ihealthbeat.org/index.cfm?Action=dspItem&itemID=108674 

Doubt it will help, but 

On Monday 31 January 2005 03:46 am, Richard Schilling wrote:
> I've been poking around the Internet to find out more about the
> Intrastructure Consortium mentioned in the article below.  I definitely
> believe that the eight companies submitted something to the Department
> of Health about the National Health Information Infrastructure, but I
> can't find any source of information about the Consortium.
>
> Anyone find additional information, like say on Microsoft's or IBM's
> website?
>
> Richard Schilling
>
> Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote:
> > Slashdot (www.slashdot.org) has a reference to the following on their
> > website today. Lots of interesting comments from readers, too.
> >
> > "The New York Times' Steve Lohr reports that 'Eight of the nation's
> > largest technology companies, including I.B.M., Microsoft and Oracle,
> > have agreed to embrace open, nonproprietary technology standards as the
> > software building blocks
> >  >&en =9ad0622fe1ebc5b3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland> for a national health
> > information network.' Microsoft, IBM, Intel, Oracle, Accenture, Cisco,
> > Hewlett-Packard and Computer Sciences have formed the Interoperability
> > Consortium to build a health information network proposed by the
> > Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The network is the first
> > step in moving from paper to electronic patient records and sharing
> > health data between doctors, researchers, insurers and hospitals. Mirrors
> > at IHT
> >  and CNet
> > News.com  with additional
> > coverage at IDG/ComputerWorld Australia
> > ."
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA NUMBER OF USERS

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Have you run afoul of a combination of fixing the number of jobs for #38 on 
the installation instructions for VistA on Cache on the Hardhats.org site and 
setting up VistA so there are some jobs left to use for accessing VistA to 
fix things in case all of the Taskman jobs were used up doing things?  We 
discussed the latter on the list when talking about setting the various 
parameters for Taskman, RPC Broker, etc, so you might have done that and have 
forgotten about it.

On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:25 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> I still have a problem getting the November version of VistA to run As a
> reminder, from a past post, I have one version of VistA running fine. It is
> about 1.5 years old. The newer version ZU halts with the message below.
> Older version works just fine.
>
> Cache 5.xxx 25 licensed users: Y=$system.License.LUConsumed() results Y=2.
>
> Am I on the wrong track? Advice appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> thurman
>
>
> OLDER VERSION ROUTINE
> VISTA>ZL %ZOSV ZP
> %ZOSV;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT.  ;12/04/2001  15:30
>  ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215**;Jul 10, 1995
> ACTJ()   ;# Active jobs
>  N Y,% S %=0 F Y=0:1 S %=$ZJ(%) Q:%=""
>  Q Y
>
>
> NEW VERSION ROUTINE
> VISTC>ZL %ZOSV ZP
> %ZOSV;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT.  ;09/22/2004  11:56
>  ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215,293,284**;Jul 10, 1995
> ACTJ()   ;# Active jobs
>  N %,V,Y S V=$$VERSION()
>  I V<5 D  Q Y
>  . S %=0 F Y=0:1 S %=$ZJ(%) Q:%=""
>  S Y=$system.License.LUConsumed()
>  Q Y
> =
> ERROR AND HALT ON ZU:
> VISTC>d ^ZU
>
>
>
> Volume set: ROU:CACHEMAW  UCI: VISTC  Device: |TNT|vistasvr:2422|5228
> (vistasvr/
> 2422)
>
> Device: |TNT|vistasvr:2422|5228
>
> Maximum number of users already signed on to this processor.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] FileMan in Cache

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Bob Witkop from Intersystems hangs his hat here at times, so he will see this.  

On Sunday 30 January 2005 02:25 pm, Bob Beckley wrote:
> If you look at a global listing in the Cache/VMS environment, you'll notice
> that the global array to the left of the "=" sign is listed only once.
> Subsequent entries with the same global array are blank to the left of the
> "=" sign, with "new" data to the right, like so:
>
> ^ABC(1,"ID")=123^124
> =321^421
> =534^543
> ...
>
> This apparently carries over into FileMan reports, like so:
>
> Jones, John 12344 Yes Vet
> 43214 No  Vet
>
> Both entries are for John Jones, but his name is listed only once.
>
> Does anyone know how to make, in this example, "John Jones" appear on each
> and every line instead of a blank?  I don't know of any print qualifiers
> that cover this.  (Perhaps I should take it up with Intersystems?)  Thanks
> in advance.
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields documented?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

My concern was that if you looked at a file you might be accused of changing 
it, but then, if changing it makes the signature get scrambled, maybe that is 
how one protects against that problem. 

HIPAA requires auditing of looking and much more, so I guess that is why the 
date changes with the reading of the file and anything else that happens to 
it. It is also why I/we/you are eventually going to have to delve into 
auditing and how that is done and read and stored, etc., if you haven't done 
it already.

On Saturday 29 January 2005 04:32 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> I think that would come under the auspices of auditing
> and journaling.  The WP field itself has nowhere to
> store such data.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Are the changes that are made tracked, i.e., exactly
> > what is different and who
> > made them?
> >
> > On Friday 28 January 2005 10:26 pm, steven mcphelan
> >
> > wrote:
> > > No it is not.  It is the date that the WP field
> >
> > was last edited updated.  I
> >
> > > do not know if FM still does this, but it used to
> >
> > update that date even if
> >
> > > you entered the WP field in Edit mode but did not
> >
> > actually do any editing.
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data
> >
> > structure for WP fields
> >
> > > documented?
> > >
> > > > Thanks Steven.
> > > >
> > > > I assume that the FM date is the date the WP
> >
> > field was
> >
> > > > created.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > As Greg said no one should tamper with the
> >
> > zeroth
> >
> > > > > node of a WP field when they can just as
> >
> > easily call
> >
> > > > > WP^DIE.  With that said, the proper syntax of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > > zeroth node of a WP field is  ^^ >
> > count>^ >
> > > > > count>^^^.  Don't ask me why the line
> >
> > count
> >
> > > > > is repeated in the zeroth node.  Perhaps they
> >
> > had
> >
> > > > > different meanings many years ago.  That is
> >
> > what I
> >
> > > > > have known for 20 years.  The word processing
> >
> > field
> >
> > > > > data must be stored on sequential, integer
> > > > > subscripts starting with 1.
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another problem with mailman due to taskman

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

My guess it that you didn't have any problems only because you put UCI in all 
the places that needed UCI and VOL in all of the places that needed VOL.  Had 
you called whatever was in UCI in the VistA you started with, and VOL what 
was in the VOL, you would have had to have changed it in fewer places.  I  
think the key is always with D GETENV^%ZOSV and then setting all of the 
parameters correctly with NO TYPOS and all that good stuff the first time 
around.  At the risk of being a broken record, that happens to be broken in 
the same place as Lloyd's record that broke from all the times he used it to 
tell me to do this ...

VISTA>D GETENV^%ZOSV
 
VISTA>W  Y

Which give you in the output in the respective places:

UCI^VOL^NODE^BOX:VOLUME 

This is actually written right into VistA at one of the ?? points, although I 
don't recall which one.

Although I have not done configuration, I sure have had lots of chances to 
help people with installations, and this is where all of the problems are.  
Lloyd knows it so well, he can even tell by the error message where the typos 
are.  Now that is what I call "experienced"!

On Saturday 29 January 2005 04:26 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> For what it is worth, it seems that most of the
> problems that I have hear people talk about on this
> board in regards to taskman, is a problem with the
> VOL,UCI etc. issue.  Most recommend using the defaults
> provided by the system, but it seems that this leads
> poeple to problems.  I cleared out all the other
> entries, and called my UCI "UCI", and called my VOL,
> "VOL".  It seems like I haven't had the problems that
> others have...
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > The CPRS problem was due to the change in file
> > access
> > rights. That has been solved. But the "Waiting for a
> > partition" problem, does not seem to be over yet.
> > Nick
> >
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Do you have a way to make your server accessible
> >
> > on
> >
> > > the internet for someone else to poke around on?
> > >
> > > I'd be willing to look at it for a couple of
> >
> > minutes
> >
> > > if you want to contact me off-board.
> > >
> > > I'm self taught, so no promises as to whether or
> >
> > not
> >
> > > I
> > > can get you up.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > I was able to overcome the previous problem with
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > command  GO^XMKPLQ and GO^XMTDT, to run
> > > >
> > > > the "MOVER" and "TICKLER".
> > > > But still I was unable to send and receive
> > >
> > > messages.
> > >
> > > > So I just checked to see the tasks
> > > >
> > > > running in TASKMAN, whose screen shot I am
> >
> > giving
> >
> > > > below :
> > > >
> > > > 510: ^LRCAPPH, COLLECT PHLEBOTOMY CAP WORKLOAD.
> > >
> > > No
> > >
> > > > device.  VAH,ROU.
> > > >  From 1/24/2005 at 18:14,  By you.  Waiting
> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > a
> > > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > > 511: ^LRCAPBB, COLLECT BLOOD BANK WORKLOAD.  No
> > > > device.  VAH,ROU.
> > > >  From 1/24/2005 at 18:14,  By you.  Waiting
> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > a
> > > > partition.
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > 720: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > > > No
> > > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > > >  From Today at 11:49,  By you.  Waiting for
> >
> > a
> >
> > > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > > 721: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > > > No
> > > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > > >  From Today at 11:50,  By you.  Waiting for
> >
> > a
> >
> > > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > > 722: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > > > No
> > > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > > >  From Today at 11:51,  By you.  Waiting for
> >
> > a
> >
> > > > partition.
> > > > ..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ROU,ROU is th valid UCI,VOL pair.
> > > >
> > > > I tried to update the DEFAULT PARTITION SIZE, in
> > > > TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, to 500. But it
> > > >
> > > > didn't seem to make any difference. So I tried
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > DELETE TASKS and CLEAN TASK FILE and
> > > >
> > > > CLEANUP TASK LIST options. And finally I have
> > >
> > > landed
> > >
> > > > with the following problems in CPRS.
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > > > ---
> > > > Access violation at address 00404B6B in module
> > > > 'CPRSChart23.exe'. Read of address 0107C055.
> > > > ---
> > > > OK
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > It does not selection of a patient.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On ordering new medication
> > > > ---
> 

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Con Call and Technical Meeting pre-Announcement

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Rare is it may seem that I actually know what I meant, I think.  I meant Java 
Script.  Since you were talking about GUI, I was guessing you were planning 
to push the envelope beyond plain Jane HTML, not that I think there is 
anything bad about HTML.  

I was daydreaming about a little more for the Pedi Project and thinking I 
needed to dig into seeing what the full capabilities are of client side Java 
Scripting are if that was along the lines you are thinking. Or were you 
speculating more?  I am thinking about drawing a pretty graph, for instance, 
with x and y pixel points using data (probably x,y pairs that can be scaled 
up or down if need be) served up by a call to VistA.

Any thought about that?

If it is HTML you need help with, I might be able to contribute to that 
effort. (Awesome. Something I can actually do! - maybe.)


On Saturday 29 January 2005 03:59 pm, Jim Self wrote:
> The GUI work in the recent meeting was M2Web and browser oriented,
> primarily MUMPS producing HTML as output. Javascript is used in many of the
> existing applications and will be used extensively in more advanced
> applications to increase client-side interactivity but we didn't get into
> that much. Is that something you are interested in?
>
> The most interesting development (to me) from the meeting was an
> experimental application (^htDIQ) that uses the Fileman DBS interface. It
> generates on-the-fly input formats filled with data from existing records
> and posts the data for verification. It is not saving the data posted quite
> yet but that is just a matter of testing and working out details of the
> interaction and handling error conditions. This is something I actually
> started at the Seattle meeting in response to ideas and suggestions from
> Dave Whitten, then he and I both worked on it a little since then.
>
> H. What do you mean by "Java Script"? I assumed you were referring to
> the Javascript language embedded in Mozilla and other browsers, but many
> people seem to confuse that with Java.
>
> Nancy wrote:
> >Is this GUI work going to be browser - Java Script work?
> >
> >On Friday 28 January 2005 12:42 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> >> Here is a brief outline of what we discussed on todays call:
> >>
> >> Dave Whitten and Chris Richardson reported on the recent coding meeting,
> >> the meeting covered the following topics:
> >> 1. M2Web Tutorial
> >> 2. Development of enhanced web based tools for interacting with Fileman
> >> 3. Exploring the technical feasibility of interacting with the tex based
> >> applications in vistA via a web interface. This effort was successful as
> >> the team was able to show two different approaches for successfully
> >> sending and receiving data to a background process associated with a
> >> text based application.
> >>
> >> There will be a follow up technical Graphical User Interfaces for VistA
> >> Technical Meeting will be held Feb. 24-27th, Salt Lake City, Utah. This
> >> is strictly a technical meeting for folks who are prepared to roll up
> >> their sleeves and write code. Stay tuned for a more informative
> >> announcement including location etc. from Chris Richardson.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Joseph
> >>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Con Call and Technical Meeting pre-Announcement

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Is this GUI work going to be browser - Java Script work?


On Friday 28 January 2005 12:42 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> Here is a brief outline of what we discussed on todays call:
>
> Dave Whitten and Chris Richardson reported on the recent coding meeting,
> the meeting covered the following topics:
> 1. M2Web Tutorial
> 2. Development of enhanced web based tools for interacting with Fileman
> 3. Exploring the technical feasibility of interacting with the tex based
> applications in vistA via a web interface. This effort was successful as
> the team was able to show two different approaches for successfully
> sending and receiving data to a background process associated with a
> text based application.
>
> There will be a follow up technical Graphical User Interfaces for VistA
> Technical Meeting will be held Feb. 24-27th, Salt Lake City, Utah. This
> is strictly a technical meeting for folks who are prepared to roll up
> their sleeves and write code. Stay tuned for a more informative
> announcement including location etc. from Chris Richardson.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GEODE - A new EsiObjects client project

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Terry, is it time to think about scheduling another tutorial with you and 
perhaps Eric at our next meeting?  I, for one, may be far enough along now to 
really begin to use it.

On Friday 28 January 2005 03:39 pm, Terry Wiechmann wrote:
> GEODE is a new EsiObjects client project started by Eric Lambert. It can be
> found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/geode/. GEODE was created to run
> on a Linux box. Consequently, if you are using EsiObjects in a Linux
> environment and want to avoid using the MS Windows client, you may be
> interested in working on this project.
>
>
> Terry L. Wiechmann
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another problem with mailman due to taskman

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I have no idea if this will help, but I was looking around trying to find out 
what this partition thing is all about, and it looks like it might have to do 
with getting a share of processor time and thing sitting in queues waiting to 
get that time.  It is mentioned in here.  Maybe it will give you some clues 
where to look.

www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/ Vista_Data_Ex_(VDEF)/VDEF_1_0_TM.doc 


On Saturday 29 January 2005 02:02 am, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
> The CPRS problem was due to the change in file access
> rights. That has been solved. But the "Waiting for a
> partition" problem, does not seem to be over yet.
> Nick
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> > Do you have a way to make your server accessible on
> > the internet for someone else to poke around on?
> >
> > I'd be willing to look at it for a couple of minutes
> > if you want to contact me off-board.
> >
> > I'm self taught, so no promises as to whether or not
> > I
> > can get you up.
> >
> > Kevin
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I was able to overcome the previous problem with
> >
> > the
> >
> > > command  GO^XMKPLQ and GO^XMTDT, to run
> > >
> > > the "MOVER" and "TICKLER".
> > > But still I was unable to send and receive
> >
> > messages.
> >
> > > So I just checked to see the tasks
> > >
> > > running in TASKMAN, whose screen shot I am giving
> > > below :
> > >
> > > 510: ^LRCAPPH, COLLECT PHLEBOTOMY CAP WORKLOAD.
> >
> > No
> >
> > > device.  VAH,ROU.
> > >  From 1/24/2005 at 18:14,  By you.  Waiting
> >
> > for
> >
> > > a
> > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > 511: ^LRCAPBB, COLLECT BLOOD BANK WORKLOAD.  No
> > > device.  VAH,ROU.
> > >  From 1/24/2005 at 18:14,  By you.  Waiting
> >
> > for
> >
> > > a
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > 720: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue 1.
> > > No
> > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > >  From Today at 11:49,  By you.  Waiting for a
> > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > 721: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue 1.
> > > No
> > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > >  From Today at 11:50,  By you.  Waiting for a
> > > partition.
>
> ---
>
>
> > > 722: GO^XMTDL, MailMan: Message Delivery Queue 1.
> > > No
> > > device.  ROU,ROU.
> > >  From Today at 11:51,  By you.  Waiting for a
> > > partition.
> > > ..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ROU,ROU is th valid UCI,VOL pair.
> > >
> > > I tried to update the DEFAULT PARTITION SIZE, in
> > > TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, to 500. But it
> > >
> > > didn't seem to make any difference. So I tried to
> > > DELETE TASKS and CLEAN TASK FILE and
> > >
> > > CLEANUP TASK LIST options. And finally I have
> >
> > landed
> >
> > > with the following problems in CPRS.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > > ---
> > > Access violation at address 00404B6B in module
> > > 'CPRSChart23.exe'. Read of address 0107C055.
> > > ---
> > > OK
> > > ---
> > >
> > > It does not selection of a patient.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On ordering new medication
> > > ---
> > > Server Error
> > > ---
> > > An error occurred on the server.
> > > ---
> > > OK
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After selecting provider
> > > ---
> > > Server Error
> > > ---
> > > An error occurred on the server.M
> > > ERROR=ENCTITL+3^ORWPT, Null subscripts are not
> > > allowed
> > >
> > >
> > > for region: DEFAULT,150373498,-%GTM-E-NULSUBSCLAST
> > > REF=^DPT("",.101)
> > > ---
> > > OK
> > > ---
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Server Error
> > > ---
> > > An error occurred on the server.
> > > ---
> > > OK
> > > ---
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Unable to Lock
> > > ---
> > > Invalid patient
> > > ---
> > > OK
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Can somebody please help me out.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > The taskman seems to be running but still the
> > > > "Background Filer" is not running. I have made
> > > >
> > > > the following changes to the MAILMAN SITE
> > >
> > > PARAMETERS
> > >
> > > > file
> > > > CPU (UCI,VOL) FOR FILER TO RUN : ROU,ROU
> > > > where ROU is UCI associated to ROU in UCI
> > > > ASSOCIATION
> > > > file
> > > > and   ROU is volume set
> > > > please help me to start the filer
> > > >
> > > > The output after D ^XMUT5 is

Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields documented?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Are the changes that are made tracked, i.e., exactly what is different and who 
made them?

On Friday 28 January 2005 10:26 pm, steven mcphelan wrote:
> No it is not.  It is the date that the WP field was last edited updated.  I
> do not know if FM still does this, but it used to update that date even if
> you entered the WP field in Edit mode but did not actually do any editing.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields
> documented?
>
> > Thanks Steven.
> >
> > I assume that the FM date is the date the WP field was
> > created.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > As Greg said no one should tamper with the zeroth
> > > node of a WP field when they can just as easily call
> > > WP^DIE.  With that said, the proper syntax of the
> > > zeroth node of a WP field is  ^^^ > > count>^^^.  Don't ask me why the line count
> > > is repeated in the zeroth node.  Perhaps they had
> > > different meanings many years ago.  That is what I
> > > have known for 20 years.  The word processing field
> > > data must be stored on sequential, integer
> > > subscripts starting with 1.
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Community meeting - trial balloon

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Just in case there are other M impaired folk out there (like me), with Chris 
Richardson's help, I found out that NEMUG meeting to celebrate the 5 to 
6 transition would be April 9-10 in Boston, which means this is an 
opportunity to bring together the diverse and dispersed M community and have 
one heck of a good time.  (At the risk of sounding like a broken record, 
maybe this would be a good place to talk MDC revival with interested 
parties.) 

AND the Beth Israel - Harvard folks have that nice M based medical records 
system with all those M programmers and lots of medical expertise right there 
in Boston.  (Think Pedi-OBGYN project.)

Lots of talent of all sorts in one place at one time - sounds pretty darn 
terrific to me!

On Friday 28 January 2005 12:13 am, Maury Pepper wrote:
> This is a trial balloon -- NOT an announcement of fixed dates ...
>
> WorldVistA is considering the dates of April 7 to 10, 2005 for the next
> VistA Community Meeting.  The tentative (but reasonably certain) location
> would be Boston.
>
> Please let us know if you know of any serious conflicts that these dates
> would create.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -maury-
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Missing Surgery Tab... found (?)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

That is exactly what I thought, but there are additions needed at the server 
level to provide the needed data for the graphical level.  I am beginning to 
get a pretty good handle on how the whole thing fits together so when I ask 
for coders to try to do something, I hope my requests won't be too 
outlandish! 

On Friday 28 January 2005 01:33 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I just printed out the 271 page CPRS users manual
> (file=cprsguium.pdf) on the documentation web site. I
> was leafing through it and found this about the
> surgery tab:
>
> Note: Until Surgery patch SR*3.0*100 is released,
> sites will not see the Surgery tab.
> When a user launches the application, CPRS checks to
> see if the patch is
> installed, and if it is, users will see the Surgery
> tab. Display of the surgery tab is
> controlled by the parameter ORWOR SHOW SURGERY TAB,
> which can be set
> at the User, Division, or System level.
> Depending on the configuration of your site and your
> access permission, the CPRS
> Surgery tab may be visible. The Surgery tab allows you
> to view signed operative reports
> generated in the VistA Surgery package. These reports
> include the Operation Report,
> Nurse Intraoperative Report, Anesthesia Report, and
> Procedure Report (Non-O.R.).
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Nancy, you mentioned precident for adding tabs (i.e.
> for the Peds/OB-GYN project).  In this case, it is not
> something that can be added at a server level.  As I
> look through the source code for CPRS, there are pages
> that are hard-coded for this.  So to add peds
> growthcharts etc, you will need to do a little coding.
>  Not all that hard, just needs doing.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields documented?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Preferred Version 8.  It is $200 when not on sale. Usually, if you wait, you 
can get $100 rebates at some point. You will want either Preferred or |
Professional and the latter is much more expensive.

On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:41 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> Which version of Dragon Dictate is this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> thurman
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Anthracite
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:12 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields
> > documented?
> >
> > Have you explored using Dragon NaturallySpeaking for doing the initial
> > typing
> > of your notes?  The computer record your voice and types at the same
> > time, Then the transcriptionist can listen to what you said and correct
> > it if it doesn't match. I understand that having that done by the
> > transcriptionist is
> > much less expensive and faster that way. .
> >
> > I have the name of a person who works for the company who puts out
> > NaturallySpeaking and handles the technical issues for the VA where they
> > use
> > it with VistA if anyone would like me to connect up with her to find out
> > the
> > details of how it is done at VA hospitals. I was introduced to her by a
> > friend at an IT vendors session at VA Headquarters were I work.
> > Unfortunately, I could only talk with her for a few minutes, but she said
> > having the right hardware was important, particularly enough memory.
> > Memory
> > is pretty cheap now.
> >
> > Personally, I was impressed that by feeding Dragon a few hundred of my
> > written
> > notes, it was able to pick up a lot of the medical vocabulary I use
> > without
> > my having to buy the medical vocabulary from the company, which saved a
> > chunk
> > of change.
> >
> > On Wednesday 26 January 2005 11:46 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > I didn't realize that.  But in my case, it wouldn't be an issue.
> > >
> > > Here is my plan.
> > >
> > > A doctor uses CPRS to partly create a note.  He doesn't sign it--just
> > > leaves it imcomplete.  He might use templates to create the bulk of the
> > > note.  However, sometimes templates don't capture the essence of a
> > > patient's problem, and narrative is required.  The doctor would dictate
> > > this part.  Then, during the upload process, the transcribed portion
> > > and the doctor's portion will be merged appropriately.  This final note
> > > will
> >
> > be
> >
> > > marked as requiring a doctor's signiture.
> > >
> > > I think this would capture the best of both worlds -- dictation and low
> > > cost not creation.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > Dewaine Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Remember that if you edit the text of a signed
> > > progress note the electronic signature will become a
> > > hashed jumble. This is a security feature designed
> > > into the product to ensure that once a document is
> > > signed its contents are not changed. (a watermark of
> > > sorts)
> > >
> > > You would want to be able to go into court and say
> > > with 100% confidence that the note that they printed
> > > out is the same note you signed and that no one has
> > > added or deleted anything since!
> > >
> > > So, when it comes to TIU, be careful.
> > >
> > > Dewaine
> > >
> > > --- Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > As a general rule, it is best not to touch the
> > > > 0-node. What I recommend
> > > > doding is extracting the file into a temporary array
> > > > ($$GET1^DIQ will
> > > > work), making any changes or additions you wish, and
> > > > then filing it
> > > > with WP^DIE.
> > > >
> > > > --- Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > > > So it looks like the field is stored as:
> > > > > (...,"TEXT",x,0), with x being the subsequent
> > > >
> > > > lines of
> > > >
> > > > > the document.
> > > > >
> > > > > ^TIU(8925.2,238,"TEXT",0)="^^31^31^3050125^"
> > > > >
> > > > > The line I really want to understand is the line
> > > > > above. T

Re: [Hardhats-members] Mailman problem

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

For what it is worth, the recommendation in VistA for that field CPU (UCI,VOL) 
is to leave it blank.  

On Thursday 27 January 2005 05:40 am, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
>
> The taskman seems to be running but still the
> "Background Filer" is not running. I have made
>
> the following changes to the MAILMAN SITE PARAMETERS
> file
> CPU (UCI,VOL) FOR FILER TO RUN : ROU,ROU
> where ROU is UCI associated to ROU in UCI ASSOCIATION
> file
> and   ROU is volume set
> please help me to start the filer
>
> The output after D ^XMUT5 is
> Delivery Queue Status as of 1/27/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:09:31
>
> Deliveries COMPLETED since last 1/2 hour: 10523 (10514
> Msg, 9 Resp)
> Number of delivery queues: 1 Message and 1 Response
> Waiting time for items to be put in the delivery
> queues: 10 0:15:11
>
> Nothing in the delivery queues.
>
> Background filer status:
>
> The Mover is not running!
> The Tickler is not running!
>
> Refresh? Yes//
>
>
>
> Nick
> --- "Roberson, Milt H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Here is the option to start the background filers.
> >
> > NUMBER: 2094NAME:
> > XMMGR-START-BACKGROUND-FILER
> >   MENU TEXT: START background filer TYPE: run
> > routine
> >   CREATOR: ROBERSON,MILTPACKAGE:
> > MAILMAN
> >  DESCRIPTION:   XMMGR-START-BACKGROUND-FILER
> > reverses the action that
> > was taken
> >  when the option that is its mirror image
> > (XMMGR-STOP-BACKGROUND-FILER)
> > has
> >  been run.  It also will restart the background
> > filer if it disappears
> > from the
> >  system status report.  In order for this option to
> > be effective, the
> > Task
> >  Manager (ZTM) must be running.
> >   ROUTINE: START^XMKPL  TIMESTAMP:
> > 55010,54425
> >   SCHEDULING RECOMMENDED: STARTUP
> >   UPPERCASE MENU TEXT: START BACKGROUND FILER
> >
> > Wait about a minute and do:
> > >d ^XMUT5
> >
> > Milt Roberson
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Behalf Of Nick
> > James
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:30 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Mailman problem
> >
> > Hi
> > This is the response I got after running the given
> > command
> >
> >
> > Delivery Queue Status as of 1/25/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:58:31
> >
> > Deliveries COMPLETED since last 1/2 hour: 10523
> > (10514 Msg, 9 Resp)
> > Number of delivery queues: 1 Message and 1 Response
> > Waiting time for
> > items to be put in the delivery
> > queues: 7 17:04:11
> >
> > Nothing in the delivery queues.
> >
> > Background filer status:
> >
> > The Mover is not running!
> > The Tickler is not running!
> >
> > Refresh? Yes// NO
> >
> >
> >
> > How can I rectify it?
> >
> > Regards
> > Nick
> > --- "Roberson, Milt H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > If you have Taskman running, check to see that the
> >
> > Background filer(s)
> >
> > > are running.
> > >
> > > >d ^XMUT5
> > >
> > > Delivery Queue Status as of 1/24/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:52:47
> > >
> > > Deliveries COMPLETED since last 1/2 hour: 1202
> >
> > (939 Msg, 263 Resp)
> >
> > > Number of delivery queues: 5 Message and 5
> >
> > Response Waiting time for
> >
> > > items to be put in the delivery
> > > queues:
> > >
> > > Nothing in the delivery queues.
> > >
> > > Background filer status: Background Filers are
> > > running.<
> > >
> > > Refresh? Yes// NO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Milt Roberson
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > > Toppenberg
> > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:19 PM
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Mailman problem
> > >
> > > Can you send and recieve mail between other users?
> > >
> > > Do you have taskman running?
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > I was just trying to configure Mailman in OV
> >
> > 0.4.
> >
> > > I did the following
> > >
> > > > steps to do it:
> > > > 1.  The user was made a member of the POSTMASTER
> > > > group
> > > > 2.  Then the user was added as a surrogate of
> > > > POSTMASTER in the POSTMASTER group with read and
> > >
> > > send privileges.
> > >
> > > > 3.  In the DOMAIN file, the domain of the user
> >
> > has
> >
> > > > the
> > > > Flag field is set to "S"
> > > > But still I don't seem to send or receive mails
> > >
> > > from POSTMASTER.
> > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __
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[Hardhats-members] Re: Training on VA Technology in U.S.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

It is very good to hear from you and to hear that you are using VistA!

I am only a volunteer with WorldVistA, and a physician, not a computer 
technical expert, but I am going to post your message on a mailing list 
called "Hardhats" where the people who are  interested in the use of VistA 
outside of the VA subscribe.  I think you will be likely to be contacted by a 
number of people who can provide you these services. 

Please free free to subscribe to the mailing list yourself as we would all be 
interested in hearing about your use of VistA and your progress.  You may 
subscribe by following this link:

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members

If you do not hear from anyone, please contact me again as I will see what I 
can do to find someone to help you.  

I would be most interested in hearing exactly what sort of application you 
would like to write as I am working on something for Pediatrics and OBGYN now 
on behalf of WorldVistA.(www.WorldVistA.org)  Also, there is a project being 
done by the US government which will be adding some additional capabilities 
to VistA. It will be available for you to see, hopefully in July.  It may 
have some of what you need in it.

I will be happy to help you in any way that I can otherwise, so please feel 
free to write again.  

On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:40 am, you wrote:
>  Dear Sir,
> II am writing on behalf of the Health Informatics Group of Obafemi
> Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Nigeria. The group has developed a hospital
> software for the use of Teaching and Specilist hospitals in Nigeria (in
> partnership with the University of Kuopio). The software is christened
> Made In Nigeria Primary Health care and Hospital Information System
> (MINPHIS). Among the tools used are those of the Vista technology.
>
>  Recently the activities of the group were reviewed. The group then
>  decided to develop the Primary Health care component of our hospital
> sofware, MINPHIS because many of our clients are demanding for it. The
> group has started working on this component. However, before further
> development is done on it, the group considers a form of re-fresher
> training important. Based on this the Coordinator of the Nigerian group
> (to whom a copy of this mail is sent), Dr. Mrs. Abimbola Soriyan, asked
> me to ascertain from you, ifyour institution or any other one you know
> could provide a free training on VA tools to a member of the group for a
> month (or as you may suggest)in the U. S. This we feel is important so
> that we can harness the resources that have evolved over the years on the
> VA technology.
>
>  The team would be glad to have your response on this.
>
>   While awaiting this, accept our best regards.
>
>   Adekunle O. Afolabi

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Re: [Hardhats-members] How to make custom reports with Fileman?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Some of the documentation links are dead so I sent an email asking about it.  
Also, I have RPMS software from a FOIA request from about a year ago, so I 
may be able to find the routines if someone, like Kevin, wants to try it.  

On Thursday 27 January 2005 02:12 am, Floyd Dennis wrote:
> On 1/26/05 9:05 PM, "Greg Kreis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder what happened to Qman, the search engine that IHS had for FM?
>
> 
>
> Q-Man is still alive and well.  Docs are available at:
>
>  http://www.ihs.gov/Cio/RPMS/index.cfm?module=home&option=documents
>
> (Select Q-Man Documentation (AMQQ) from the drop-down list and click
> Submit)
>
>
>
> 
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> Right next to the mashed potatoes.
>   -- Billboard, Saskatoon Steaks/Fish/Wild Game
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: An Old email that might help

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Thanks for the feed back and it looks like Wei saved the day, again!

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 11:01 pm, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
> Finally I am able to see the drugs and order them from
> CPRS. Nancy's old mail really helped.
> A record has to be added into the ORDER QUICK VIEW
> file. This file probably holds  the parameters
> required by CPRS. The new record is something like:
> Name : ORWDSET O RX
> QUICK ORDER : PS MEDS
> SET MEMBER : "ORDERABLE ITEM"
> Regards
> Nick
>
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > RE: [HARDHATS] enter new medication
> >  Date: Wed Dec 10 15:09:55 2003
> >  From: "Wei Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanks to Todd in Iowa who helped us with resolve
> > the problem!
> >
> > The reason was that we didn't start TaskMan while
> > entering the drugs so
> > job of "updating Quick View" is scheduled but not
> > run.
> > After we started TaskMan and waited for a little
> > while, all drugs now
> > show nicely in the GUI interface.
> >
> > Wei
> >
> > Wei Wang wrote:
> > > I have tried to enter a new pharmacy orderable
> >
> > items and drugs through
> >
> > > the PDM Drug enter/edit program.   After the drug
> >
> > is put in, I can order
> >
> > > it from the character-based CPRS but it does not
> >
> > display in the
> >
> > > Medication Order dialog box for the GUI CPRS.  
> > >
> > > The only inpatient medication orderable items that
> >
> > display in the  GUI
> >
> > > CPRS are items contained in the record "ORWDSET UD
> >
> > RX" in the file ORDER
> >
> > > QUICK VIEW.  But new updates to the drugs and
> >
> > orderable items do not
> >
> > > effect this record.   Any idea how I should enter
> >
> > new drugs and/or
> >
> > > pharmacy orderable items so they will appear on
> >
> > the GUI CPRS too?
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Wei Wang
> > > Oleen Healthcare Information Management
> >
> > --
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields documented?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Maybe that is when he got IN!

On Thursday 27 January 2005 01:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greg Woodhouse, 3:35am?? You need to get out more!
>
>
> John Clemens
> IT Specialist, Software
> IRMS
> Veterans Affairs Medical Center (662)
> 4150 Clement Street
> San Francisco, CA  94121
> Phone:  415.221.4810 x4540 (Tu,Wed,Thu)
> Digital Pager:415.303.0388 ( Mon,Fri)
> Fax: 415.750.2177
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:23 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields
> documented?
>
> Calling the following code from the set logic of a new style
> cross-reference (on .01) should do the job:
>
>
> XREF;
> S ^TMP($J,"WP",1)="LINE ONE"
> S ^TMP($J,"WP",2)="LINE TWO"
> D WP^DIE(file#,DA_",",field#,,$NA(^TMP($J,"WP")))
> K ^TMP($J,"WP")
> Q
>
> --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Guess that's because I don't understand it either. However, I find
> > trigger one of the most tools I have in FileMan. It has been around
> > for over 20 years (think MS SQL implemented it around 5-6 yr ago -
> > with much fanfare).
> > Just by using the change of value of a field as an event, one can
> > populate almost any other field with whatever data appropriate -
> > stored or free text.
> > I say "almost" because I still can't trigger to WP. I need to
> > investigate the cross-reference that calls WP^DIE a little further.
> >
> > I worked on this problem a few years ago and gave up on it because of
> > inability to trigger a WP field. I'm not sure what it is you feel you
> > don't understand, as you sure know this code better than I. Below, I
> > present a couple of examples, just to see if we are in the same book.
> > Sorry to chew up so much bandwidth. Just like to be sure we are on
> > same sheet..
> >
> >
> > 1. Example 1: I created two fields to test WPTEST (WP field) and
> > (WPCODETRGTEST)  a SET OF CODES FIELD.
> > 
> > Select Utility Functions Option: cross-Reference A Field
> >
> > What type of cross-reference (Traditional or New)? Traditional//
> > TRADITIONAL
> >
> > MODIFY WHAT FILE: ENCOUNTERS FILE//
> > Select FIELD: wpcODETRGTEST
> >
> > NO CURRENT CROSS-REFERENCE
> > WANT TO CREATE A NEW CROSS-REFERENCE FOR THIS FIELD? No// y  (Yes)
> > CROSS-REFERENCE NUMBER: 1// Select TYPE OF INDEXING: REGULAR// tRIGGER
> >
> > WHEN THE WPCODETRGTEST field (#2021) of the ENCOUNTERS FILE File
> > (#20036) IS
> > CHA
> > NGED,
> > WHAT FIELD SHOULD BE 'TRIGGERED': WPTEST
> >   ...WPTEST
> > YOU MUST IDENTIFY SOME FIELD, EITHER WITHIN THE 'ENCOUNTERS FILE' FILE
> > OR IN SOME OTHER
> >
> > WHEN THE WPCODETRGTEST field (#2021) of the ENCOUNTERS FILE File
> > (#20036) IS
> > CHA
> > NGED,
> > WHAT FIELD SHOULD BE 'TRIGGERED':
> >
> > As you see, nothing happens here when I try to fire trigger at WPTEST.
> >
> > Now look at the inelegant, though powerful, one that works. As you can
> > see, I lack programming proficiency. However, if I can make this thing
> > work, think of the possibilities for general population.tx/t
> >
> >
> > Example 2: Two fields (both date fields - though anything except WP
> > works)
>
> ===
>
> > MODIFY WHAT FILE: ENCOUNTERS FILE//
> > Select FIELD: DATETRG
> >
> > NO CURRENT CROSS-REFERENCE
> > WANT TO CREATE A NEW CROSS-REFERENCE FOR THIS FIELD? No// Y  (Yes)
> > CROSS-REFERENCE NUMBER: 1// Select TYPE OF INDEXING: REGULAR// TRIGGER
> >
> > WHEN THE DATETRG field (#2025) of the ENCOUNTERS FILE File (#20036) IS
> > CHANGED, WHAT FIELD SHOULD BE 'TRIGGERED': TRGDA
> >By 'TRGDA', do you mean ENCOUNTERS FILE 'TRGDATERESULT'? Yes//
> > (Yes)
> > ...OK
> >
> >
> > ---SET LOGIC---
> >
> > IN ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION, 'TRGDATERESULT'
> >   CAN BE USED TO REFER TO THE EXISTING TRIGGERED FIELD VALUE.
> > PLEASE ENTER AN EXPRESSION WHICH WILL BECOME THE VALUE OF THE
> > TRGDATERESULT field (#2026) of the ENCOUNTERS FILE File (#20036)
> > WHENEVER THE 'DATETRG' FIELD IS ENTERED OR CHANGED: DATETRG
> >
> > DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE SETTING OF 'TRGDATERESULT' CONDITIONAL? No// Y
> > (Yes)
> > ENTER AN EXPRESSION FOR THE CONDITION: TRGDATERESULT=""
> > ---KILL LOGIC---
> >
> > IN ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION, 'TRGDATERESULT'
> >   CAN BE USED TO REFER TO THE EXISTING TRIGGERED FIELD VALUE.
> >   NOTE: 'OLD DATETRG' CAN BE USED TO REFER TO THE VALUE OF THE
> >   DATETRG FIELD BEFORE ITS CHANGE OR DELETION.
> > PLEASE ENTER AN EXPRESSION WHICH WILL BECOME THE VALUE OF THE
> > TRGDATERESULT field (#2026) of the ENCOUNTERS FILE File (#20036)
> > WHENEVER THE 'DATETRG' FIELD IS CHANGED OR DELETED: DATETRG
> >
> > DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE SETTING OF 'TRGDATERESULT' CONDITIONAL? No// Y
> 

Re: [Hardhats-members] Where is the data structure for WP fields documented?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Have you explored using Dragon NaturallySpeaking for doing the initial typing 
of your notes?  The computer record your voice and types at the same time, 
Then the transcriptionist can listen to what you said and correct it if it 
doesn't match. I understand that having that done by the transcriptionist is 
much less expensive and faster that way. .  

I have the name of a person who works for the company who puts out 
NaturallySpeaking and handles the technical issues for the VA where they use 
it with VistA if anyone would like me to connect up with her to find out the 
details of how it is done at VA hospitals. I was introduced to her by a 
friend at an IT vendors session at VA Headquarters were I work. 
Unfortunately, I could only talk with her for a few minutes, but she said 
having the right hardware was important, particularly enough memory.  Memory 
is pretty cheap now.

Personally, I was impressed that by feeding Dragon a few hundred of my written 
notes, it was able to pick up a lot of the medical vocabulary I use without 
my having to buy the medical vocabulary from the company, which saved a chunk 
of change.

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 11:46 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I didn't realize that.  But in my case, it wouldn't be an issue.
>
> Here is my plan.
>
> A doctor uses CPRS to partly create a note.  He doesn't sign it--just
> leaves it imcomplete.  He might use templates to create the bulk of the
> note.  However, sometimes templates don't capture the essence of a
> patient's problem, and narrative is required.  The doctor would dictate
> this part.  Then, during the upload process, the transcribed portion and
> the doctor's portion will be merged appropriately.  This final note will be
> marked as requiring a doctor's signiture.
>
> I think this would capture the best of both worlds -- dictation and low
> cost not creation.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> Dewaine Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remember that if you edit the text of a signed
> progress note the electronic signature will become a
> hashed jumble. This is a security feature designed
> into the product to ensure that once a document is
> signed its contents are not changed. (a watermark of
> sorts)
>
> You would want to be able to go into court and say
> with 100% confidence that the note that they printed
> out is the same note you signed and that no one has
> added or deleted anything since!
>
> So, when it comes to TIU, be careful.
>
> Dewaine
>
> --- Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> > As a general rule, it is best not to touch the
> > 0-node. What I recommend
> > doding is extracting the file into a temporary array
> > ($$GET1^DIQ will
> > work), making any changes or additions you wish, and
> > then filing it
> > with WP^DIE.
> >
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > So it looks like the field is stored as:
> > > (...,"TEXT",x,0), with x being the subsequent
> >
> > lines of
> >
> > > the document.
> > >
> > > ^TIU(8925.2,238,"TEXT",0)="^^31^31^3050125^"
> > >
> > > The line I really want to understand is the line
> > > above. Those 31's refer to the number of lines in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > document. I want to be able to insert text into a
> >
> > WP
> >
> > > field programatically. So I will need to changed
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Maxline property etc.
> > >
> > > So does anyone know where I can find the
> >
> > documentation
> >
> > > for these field/pieces?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] FYI: Sun to Open Source Solaris

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

The public radio station here in DC just did a show on Open Source Software 
yesterday that I caught a bit of on the way home.  Apparently IBM is giving 
away 500 patents (on what I don't know) to the Open Source community, and 
that has caused some publicity. They also spoke of the O'Reilly Open Source 
Convention, which I didn't know anything about, so I looked it up on the web 
and here is a link:

http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/

Has WorldVistA had a presence at this convention in the past?  Seems like we 
should ask Rick to go there since I have been told that long hair seems to be 
the mark of a true open source hacker, and Washington is next to Oregon. ;-)

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 11:44 am, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> What is the world coming to???
>
>   :-)
>
> Joseph
>
> ...
>.
>
> from:
> http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2005-01/sunflash.20050125.1.html
>
> Sun Announces Open Source License for Solaris Operating System
>
> Solaris Code to be Available Under the CDDL in Q2 2005
>
> SANTA CLARA, Calif. - January 25, 2005 - Sun Microsystems, Inc. (Nasdaq:
> SUNW) today announced that the source code for Solaris 10 - the most
> advanced operating system in the industry - will be made available under
> the OSI (Open Source Initiative) approved Common Development and
> Distribution License (CDDL). The company has established a community Web
> site at opensolaris.org. Buildable source code for Solaris will be
> available at this site in the second quarter of 2005.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I don't know if the big guys care, but the CCR is done with XML fields, so 
your guess would fit.  If the Continuity of Care Record becomes the way this 
is done, hopefully, you won't have to pay ASTM to find out what it is.

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 04:36 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> I think the IBM and Microsoft combo is a great duo.  They've been
> working with the XML and W3C specs to fledge out the specs for transport
> and security.
>
> Most everyone has this gagging reflex when they hear the words
> "Microsoft" and "standard" in the same sentence but you really shouldn't
> be so quick to judge.
>
> They did help create XML back in July 1996.  Yes, 1996!  Man, almost 10
> years of XML.
>
> http://www.xml.com/pub/au/47
>
> http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=33709
>
> I'm betting (with MS, IBM, and Oracle) that the system will use XML Web
> Services and they'll all create easy-to-use kits for their related
> Development Tools (MS = .NET and the other two will be Java based).
>
> /David.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:08 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance
>
> I agree that big is often bad (from my perspective).
> But I think that they are better than the "other" big
> player (Microsoft).  I would feel as safe with a
> Microsoft Office Chart as I would installing Microsoft
> Wallet on my computer.
>
> But someone somehow has to get conformity going.
> Sometimes this requires marketing muscle, sometimes it
> just means innovation (like HTML and Netscape).
>
> Kevin
> --- "Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A bit like the Axis of Evil controlling nuclear
> > weapons technology?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Behalf Of Greg Kreis
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:08 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance
> >
> >
> >
> > High-Tech Alliance on Base for a Digital Health
> > Network
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/technology/26health.html
>
> 
>
> > --
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> > Greg Kreis   http://www.PioneerDataSys.com
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > "You are today where your thoughts have brought you,
> > you will
> >
> >be tomorrow where your thoughts take you." (James
> > Lane Allen)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Here is that link.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2004/04-25382.htm


On Wednesday 26 January 2005 02:42 pm, Mark Amundson wrote:
> Joseph,
> Do you know was this in response the the RFI that CMS posted in Nov last
> year.  I posted a link on HardHats to the Federal Register
> anouncement but I don't have a link to it now. Mark
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:09 , Joseph Dal Molin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: 
> 
> It is interesting to
> note that none of these companies makes or sells  software for health
> systemsif anything they are at the mercy of  health software
> vendorsand what about IHE and all the other efforts  to integrate
> the jungle of applications? 
> 
> The only way integration will happen is for customers to DEMAND it. So 
> far the market has not been able to effect thismaybe it needs to be
>  legislated...like the FAA does with aircraft maintenance standards
> etc.  All it would take would be a scientific and credible study that
> links  hospital error to a lack of integration and the associated
> mortality  rate and things would change quickly IMHO. The evidence is
> there  
> J 
> 
> Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote: 
> > A bit like the Axis of Evil controlling nuclear
> weapons technology?  > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > *From:*  href="javascript:parent.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ge.net','','','')">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [ href="javascript:parent.opencompose('; href="javascript:parent.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of  > *Greg Kreis 
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:08 AM
>  > *To:*  href="javascript:parent.opencompose('hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>','','','')">hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net   color=red>> *Subject:* [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance
>  > 
> > 
> > High-Tech Alliance on Base for a Digital Health
> Network  > 
> > 
> >  href="modules/refer.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2005%2F01%2F
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>  > 
> > -- 
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>  > 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Medsphere Raises $7.5 Million in Latest Round of Venture Financing

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

So can somebody from Medsphere tell us if Medsphere 
OpenVistA and is it really open source and if so, what sort of license is 
being used for it ?

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 11:34 am, David Sommers wrote:
> Medsphere Raises $7.5 Million in Latest Round of Venture Financing
> And Appoints Larry Augustin as Company Chief Executive Officer
>
>
>
> http://www.medsphere.com/media/press/20050125-1.rbw
>
>
>
>
>
> David Sommers, Architect
>
> Dialog Medical
>
> e> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> w> www.dialogmedical.com 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare Alliance

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I don't think you will have to sign up for anything with this link.  

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-5550628.html?type=pt&part=inv&tag=feed&subj=news

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:07 pm, Greg Kreis wrote:
> High-Tech Alliance on Base for a Digital Health Network
>
>
>  http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/technology/26health.html

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Re: [Hardhats-members] How to make custom reports with Fileman?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Speaking of searching, at the Greenbelt meeting prior to this one I remember 
George Timson had something to search all of the fields to find things - not 
the contents of them but the field names.  As an example, where is the shoe 
size recorded?  If that tool is available somewhere, I would like to know 
about it.

I was quite surprised when Cameron pointed out a head circumference field was 
already in vital signs.  I thought that was going to have to be added.

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:13 am, Jim Self wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> >Jim,
> >
> >On my "someday" list, I am going to put a task to get
> >this search interface spruced up.
>
> Providing a better search interface is on my project list also. This search
> module is quite functional once you learn how to use it, but it appears to
> have changed very little since incorporation of my fix to it about 23 years
> ago that enabled searching on subfields. If we want to work together on it,
> we should start by describing what is good and bad about it and how it
> could be improved.
>
> >I think I would like to explore the M2Web now.
> >
> >I spent some time going through your web page
> >http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself
> >But couldn't find a link re where to get the code.
> >I'm probably overlooking it.
>
> Sorry about that. That page had an outdated link on it to the M2Web demo
> site that I have now fixed.
>
> >Could you send me a URL?
>
> The most recent instructions are "M2Web setup update 2004-12-20" at
> http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/notebook/index/48.html
>
> >Thanks
> >KEvin
> >
> >--- Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Kevin wrote:
> >> >  -B- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD: sex
> >> >  -B- CONDITION: cONTAINS
> >> >  -B- CONTAINS: M
> >> >   [ Will match 'MALE', and 'FEMALE' ]
> >>
> >> The operator "CONTAINS" does not appear to be
> >> appropriate here.
> >> If you want to get "MALE" but not "FEMALE", you must
> >> use "EQUALS" instead.
> >>
> >> The operator "CONTAINS" matches on the external
> >> value of the field, while "EQUALS" matches
> >> on the internal value - a point of convenience and
> >> confusion.
> >>
> >> I left out the part where you entered a lowercase
> >> "m". When attempting to duplicate the
> >> search and refresh my memory of how it worked, I
> >> made almost the same mistake you did and
> >> entered the "M" (you entered "m") in answer to
> >> "SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD" question. I was
> >> surprised to see that it then went into a seemingly
> >> inescapable loop of presenting about
> >> 20 guesses for cross-referenced fields after I had
> >> already attempted to escape ("^") from
> >> the question where it listed all the first-level
> >> fields with names begining with M.
> >>
> >> I had not used Fileman's search module in quite a
> >> long while, so I was somewhat dismayed
> >> to see that this old user trap was still there and
> >> appears to have gotten worse. :(
> >>
> >> >  -C- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD:
> >> >
> >> >IF: ? ??
> >> >IF:  ??
> >> >IF:  ??
> >> >IF:  ??
> >> >IF: ?? ??
> >> >IF: 1 <1>??
> >> >IF: ^
> >> >
> >> >Press RETURN to continue...
> >> >
> >> >> If you augment Fileman with M2Web, then you will
> >> >> have additional capabilities for doing
> >> >> database queries from a web browser and a great
> >>
> >> many
> >>
> >> >> additional options for formatting the
> >> >> results on-the-fly, including switching the
> >>
> >> output
> >>
> >> >> type from html to xml or xls.
> >> >
> >> >Again, I really want to sit down with your M2Web
> >> >technology someday and implement it.
> >>
> >> If you already have GT.M, VistA, and Apache
> >> installed on Linux, then connecting it all up
> >> with M2Web should take less than half an hour. Of
> >> course, that would give you more to
> >> learn about, but it would also make it easier to
> >> understand much of the VistA stuff by
> >> exposing it to you in a web browser and giving you
> >> new ways to view it all.
> >>
> >> Also, I think that much of what you have already
> >> done in feeding data to VistA from
> >> external applications could be easily adapted to
> >> work from M2Web and then expanded into a
> >> full bidirectional interaction.
> >>
> >> >I just can't get
> >> >diverted right now.  Too much on my plate.  It
> >>
> >> looks
> >>
> >> >extremely powerful.  I hope that it gets put
> >>
> >> formally
> >>
> >> >into Fileman, as was the object of a recent Friday
> >> >conference call.
> >>
> >> M2Web cannot be formally put *into* Fileman for a
> >> number of reasons, one of which is that
> >> it is broader in its intended scope than Fileman.
> >> However, M2Web can work with Fileman
> >> and/or with Fileman defined data. M2Web is a
> >> collection of tools for connecting MUMPS
> >> applications to the web. Only a part of M2Web is
> >> directly concerned with database access
> >> and that part is not limited to handling the type of
> >> data structures defined by Fileman.
> >>
> >> One thing that can be done is to build interfaces
> >>

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS : the mysterious Surgery tab

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Well, I think that is great because it means there is already a model for what 
we need to do with Pediatrics and OBGYN. Good news!

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 01:02 am, David Sommers wrote:
> Yep - it pulls data from several other sections including Notes to
> generate a surgery targeted view.
>
> iMedConsent(tm) has/is working with the surgery workgroup that's
> building up the functionality internally within the VA.  I don't have
> details on their goals, timeline, etc.  But the idea is that pre-op
> doesn't involve going around the chart gathering the same data each time
> and instead you get your data pulled together for you.
>
> /David.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> E. Anthracite
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:59 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS : the mysterious Surgery tab
>
> The way it reads I would assume it is not a COR or RPT tab but a tab
> like
> those on the bottom of the CPRS windows that allows you to look at
> differnet
> sections of the chart.
>
> On Tuesday 25 January 2005 06:56 am, Nick James wrote:
> > hi Kevin,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > I am aware of the available 2 options which are the
> > same in our installation here. But when i was going
> > through the 'Surgery Electronic Signature for
> > Operative Reports, Implementation guide, version 3.0,
> > i came across this 'Surgery' tab.
> > Wonder if anyone has worked with it and has any idea
> > of getting this one!
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > As for as I can tell, the possible answers for types
> > > of CPRS tabs desired is stored in field 101.13 of
> > > NEW
> > > PERSON file (#200).  This includes a pointer to the
> > > file OR CPRS TAB (file# 101.13).  In my system,
> > > there
> > > are only 2 options: COR and RPT.
> > >
> > > So I don't know how one would get a surgery tab set
> > > up.  Perhaps its an entire package not installed on
> > > my
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Regarding the imaging stuff, the consensus I have
> > > gotten from this list is to just leave it alone.
> > > It's
> > > too much hassle (i.e. barriers of FDA regulation).
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > Was just trying to have the surgery package of
> > >
> > > VistA
> > >
> > > > Running. As i was going thru some of the available
> > > > documentation, i found that there is a 'surgery'
> > >
> > > tab
> > >
> > > > in CPRS. Was just wondering in addition to the
> > >
> > > core
> > >
> > > > CPRS tabs are there other such tabs (anything
> > > > relating
> > > > to LAB, Radiology...)?
> > > >
> > > > Also came across a GUI called 'VistARad'. As far
> > >
> > > as
> > >
> > > > i
> > > > have understood, its got something to do with
> > > > imaging
> > > > and creation of a multimedia patient record...? i
> > > > have
> > > > not been able to locate this application? How does
> > > > one
> > > > load it?
> > > >
> > > > The Radiology system, i.e. other than the ordering
> > > > of
> > > > exams and report viewing seems quite a cumbersome
> > > > process? Is there no GUI or atleast a screenman
> > >
> > > form
> > >
> > > > to work with for registration, scheduling, report
> > > > entry...?
> > > > thanks
> > > > Nick.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Cant add entries to Pharmacy Orderable Item

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

The one time I looked at this, the entries needed to be confirmed by a second 
person with the right key from the New Person File, like a second pharmacist 
or the pharmacy manager or something like that..  Have you done that?  Also, I 
think I recall something about it only being listed for outpatients.  Could 
that be right?


On Monday 24 January 2005 11:10 pm, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
> I am able to enter the drugs into "PHARMACY ORDERABLE
> ITEM" file through the option that you had suggested.
> But still I am unable to order drugs from CPRS Chart.
> The message shown is "List index out of bounds (0)".
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> --- Toni Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello, Nick:
> >
> > I was able to successfully get this to work a couple
> > of summers ago,
> > when our company was setting up Vista. The drug
> > file, which is a product
> > file, and the orderable file, which is a generic
> > name/dosage form file
> > must be linked through the drug enter/edit function
> > in the pharmacy
> > system. Once the product is linked with the
> > orderable, the orderable
> > will appear in CPRS. (The assumption made here is
> > that the version you
> > are using does have the orderable file in it)
> >
> > You must assign yourself the proper keys to order
> > drugs in CPRS, and you
> > must assign yourself all of the pharmacy system
> > manager keys, so that
> > you can edit and match drugs for all types of
> > orderables.
> >
> > In drug enter/edit, the system takes you through the
> > drug file, allowing
> > you to edit fields, match the drug to the NDF, mark
> > the drug for the
> > proper pharmacy package (inpatient, outpatient, IV),
> > and finally it
> > takes you to the orderable matching function, which
> > creates the
> > orderable as viewed in CPRS. At this point you
> > select the generic name
> > and dosage form that matches the product you are
> > working on. Once this
> > is complete, that description will appear in CPRS as
> > an orderable item.
> >
> > One reason the system is set up this way is so that
> > the physician does
> > not have to select a drug product when ordering in
> > CPRS. The physician
> > orders by drug name, dose, and route. The
> > pharmacist, as part of the
> > verification process, makes sure that the physician
> > order matches a
> > product available for dispensing, and assigns a
> > proper dosage
> > administration schedule to the order.
> >
> >
> > Toni Beare Petersen
> > American Healthcare Solutions, Inc.
> > 405 S. Lincoln
> > Steamboat Springs, CO 80477
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 970.846.8591 (cell)
> > www.ahsinc.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nick James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:49 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Cant add entries to
> > Pharmacy Orderable
> > Item
> >
> > The output is as follows:
> > NUMBER: 83  NAME:
> > KIRAN,USHA
> >   INITIAL: UK   ACCESS CODE:
> > 
> >   DATE VERIFY CODE LAST CHANGED: JAN 17,2005
> >   VERIFY CODE: 
> >   PREFERRED EDITOR: LINE EDITOR - VA FILEMAN
> >   DATE ENTERED: JAN 17, 2005CREATOR:
> > BAGEPALLI,MADHAVI
> >   LAST SIGN-ON DATE/TIME: JAN 21, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:54
> >   XUS Logon Attempt Count: 0XUS Active
> > User: No
> >   Entry Last Edit Date: JAN 17, 2005TERMINAL
> > TYPE
> > LAST USED: C-VT102
> > DIVISION: SOFTWARE SERVICE
> >   NAME COMPONENTS: 200
> > SERVICE/SECTION: IRM
> >   SIGNATURE BLOCK PRINTED NAME: USHA KIRAN
> > KEY: XUPROG GIVEN BY:
> > IRM,MGR
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 17, 2005
> > KEY: XUMGR  GIVEN BY:
> > IRM,MGR
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 17, 2005
> > KEY: XUPROGMODE GIVEN BY:
> > IRM,MGR
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 17, 2005
> > KEY: PROVIDER   GIVEN BY:
> > IRM,MGR
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 19, 2005
> > KEY: XMMGR  GIVEN BY:
> > BAGEPALLI,MADHAVI
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 17, 2005
> > KEY: ORES           GIVEN BY:
> > IRM,MGR
> >   DATE GIVEN: JAN 21, 2005
> >   RESTRICT PATIENT SELECTION: NOMULTIPLE
> > SIGN-ON: ALLOWED
> >   TYPE-AHEAD: ALLOWED   

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS : the mysterious Surgery tab

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

The way it reads I would assume it is not a COR or RPT tab but a tab like 
those on the bottom of the CPRS windows that allows you to look at differnet 
sections of the chart.

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 06:56 am, Nick James wrote:
> hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> I am aware of the available 2 options which are the
> same in our installation here. But when i was going
> through the 'Surgery Electronic Signature for
> Operative Reports, Implementation guide, version 3.0,
> i came across this 'Surgery' tab.
> Wonder if anyone has worked with it and has any idea
> of getting this one!
>
> Nick
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> > As for as I can tell, the possible answers for types
> > of CPRS tabs desired is stored in field 101.13 of
> > NEW
> > PERSON file (#200).  This includes a pointer to the
> > file OR CPRS TAB (file# 101.13).  In my system,
> > there
> > are only 2 options: COR and RPT.
> >
> > So I don't know how one would get a surgery tab set
> > up.  Perhaps its an entire package not installed on
> > my
> > system.
> >
> > Regarding the imaging stuff, the consensus I have
> > gotten from this list is to just leave it alone.
> > It's
> > too much hassle (i.e. barriers of FDA regulation).
> >
> > Good luck
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > Was just trying to have the surgery package of
> >
> > VistA
> >
> > > Running. As i was going thru some of the available
> > > documentation, i found that there is a 'surgery'
> >
> > tab
> >
> > > in CPRS. Was just wondering in addition to the
> >
> > core
> >
> > > CPRS tabs are there other such tabs (anything
> > > relating
> > > to LAB, Radiology...)?
> > >
> > > Also came across a GUI called 'VistARad'. As far
> >
> > as
> >
> > > i
> > > have understood, its got something to do with
> > > imaging
> > > and creation of a multimedia patient record...? i
> > > have
> > > not been able to locate this application? How does
> > > one
> > > load it?
> > >
> > > The Radiology system, i.e. other than the ordering
> > > of
> > > exams and report viewing seems quite a cumbersome
> > > process? Is there no GUI or atleast a screenman
> >
> > form
> >
> > > to work with for registration, scheduling, report
> > > entry...?
> > > thanks
> > > Nick.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Mailman problem

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Just to be sure, you have done everything that has to do with Mailman that is 
in the installation instructions for VistA with Cache on the Hardhats web 
site http://www.hardhats.org/projects/VistA_Install/Vista_Install.html ? And 
there is something, that the installation instructions unabashedly stole 
from, on http://www.seaislandsystems.com/Vista/index.html .


On Monday 24 January 2005 10:29 pm, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
> This is the response I got after running the given
> command
>
>
> Delivery Queue Status as of 1/25/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:58:31
>
> Deliveries COMPLETED since last 1/2 hour: 10523 (10514
> Msg, 9 Resp)
> Number of delivery queues: 1 Message and 1 Response
> Waiting time for items to be put in the delivery
> queues: 7 17:04:11
>
> Nothing in the delivery queues.
>
> Background filer status:
>
> The Mover is not running!
> The Tickler is not running!
>
> Refresh? Yes// NO
>
>
>
> How can I rectify it?
>
> Regards
> Nick
> --- "Roberson, Milt H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > If you have Taskman running, check to see that the
> > Background filer(s)
> > are running.
> >
> > >d ^XMUT5
> >
> > Delivery Queue Status as of 1/24/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:52:47
> >
> > Deliveries COMPLETED since last 1/2 hour: 1202 (939
> > Msg, 263 Resp)
> > Number of delivery queues: 5 Message and 5 Response
> > Waiting time for items to be put in the delivery
> > queues:
> >
> > Nothing in the delivery queues.
> >
> > Background filer status: Background Filers are
> > running.<
> >
> > Refresh? Yes// NO
> >
> >
> >
> > Milt Roberson
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Toppenberg
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:19 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Mailman problem
> >
> > Can you send and recieve mail between other users?
> >
> > Do you have taskman running?
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I was just trying to configure Mailman in OV 0.4.
> >
> > I did the following
> >
> > > steps to do it:
> > > 1.The user was made a member of the POSTMASTER
> > > group
> > > 2.Then the user was added as a surrogate of
> > > POSTMASTER in the POSTMASTER group with read and
> >
> > send privileges.
> >
> > > 3.In the DOMAIN file, the domain of the user has
> > > the
> > > Flag field is set to "S"
> > > But still I don't seem to send or receive mails
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Chris pointed out I should just try it and VOILA

GTM>S X=10E3 W X
1
GTM>

I am going to change the D to E.

On Sunday 23 January 2005 09:17 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> I'd keep the two together.  I can't see any advantage
> to separating the mantissa and abscissa (there, I
> remembered the names I think :-)
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > What does M understand and a corollary to that is
> > what would you do if you
> > wanted to read it into an M database and do all of
> > these calculations in M to
> > define points on a graph. Wouldn't a separtate field
> > be better?
> >
> > On Sunday 23 January 2005 06:01 pm, Maury Pepper
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Likewise, Excel understands E notation but not D.
> > >
> > > For more on D format, see the Fortran standard on
> >
> > format specifications,
> >
> > www.fortran.com/fortran/F77_std/rjcnf0001-sh-13.html
> >
> > > See section 13.5.9.2.2 on that web page.
> > > My understanding is that the D stands for "double"
> >
> > as in double precision.
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "John Leo Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for
> >
> > programs stored in Databases
> >
> > > > DON't split the coefficient from the root.
> > > > Open Office Calc expresses the exponent with an
> >
> > "E" rather than "D".
> >
> > > > I think that if you replace "D-" with "E-" and
> >
> > "D " with "E" the file
> >
> > > > would import to Calc as a
> > > > tab delimited table.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > jlz
> > > >
> > > > -- Original Message ---
> > > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:48:13 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for
> >
> > programs stored in Databases
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/1977coefficients2.txt
>
> > > > > If you click on the word "Coefficients" at the
> >
> > top of this page,
> >
> > > > > there is a table with this sort of notation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was going to pull it into a spreadsheet and
> >
> > I thought it might be
> >
> > > > > easier to separate out the exponent rather
> >
> > than leave it there to be
> >
> > > > > parsed out.  That way when I exported it
> >
> > again, I could comma
> >
> > > > > delimit it rather than "D" delimit it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was wondering why it was done that way. Greg
> >
> > probably has the answer.
> >
> > > > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:34 pm, Greg
> >
> > Kreis wrote:
> > > > > > I am not sure of what you are asking.  Are
> >
> > you referring to this?
> >
> > > > > >  >w .24e-2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .0024
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > > > > > >Is it fairly typical to provide numbers in
> >
> > a format with a D
> >
> > > > > > > followed by a power of 10, i.e.
> >
> > 0.240D-02 is really .0024,
> >
> > > > > > > for entry into databases to be parsed and
> >
> > used by programs?  If it
> >
> > > > > > > is, is the D-02 portion usually provided
> >
> > in the same piece of data
> >
> > > > > > > or "cell" or whatever you want to call it,
> >
> > or in a different,
> >
> > > > > > > perhaps adjoining, cell?
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

What does M understand and a corollary to that is what would you do if you 
wanted to read it into an M database and do all of these calculations in M to 
define points on a graph. Wouldn't a separtate field be better?

On Sunday 23 January 2005 06:01 pm, Maury Pepper wrote:
> Likewise, Excel understands E notation but not D.
>
> For more on D format, see the Fortran standard on format specifications,
>   www.fortran.com/fortran/F77_std/rjcnf0001-sh-13.html
> See section 13.5.9.2.2 on that web page.
> My understanding is that the D stands for "double" as in double precision.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Leo Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases
>
> > DON't split the coefficient from the root.
> > Open Office Calc expresses the exponent with an "E" rather than "D".
> > I think that if you replace "D-" with "E-" and "D " with "E" the file
> > would import to Calc as a
> > tab delimited table.
> >
> > regards,
> > jlz
> >
> > -- Original Message ---
> > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:48:13 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases
> >
> > > http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/1977coefficients2.txt
> > >
> > > If you click on the word "Coefficients" at the top of this page,
> > > there is a table with this sort of notation.
> > >
> > > I was going to pull it into a spreadsheet and I thought it might be
> > > easier to separate out the exponent rather than leave it there to be
> > > parsed out.  That way when I exported it again, I could comma
> > > delimit it rather than "D" delimit it.
> > >
> > > I was wondering why it was done that way. Greg probably has the answer.
> > >
> > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:34 pm, Greg Kreis wrote:
> > > > I am not sure of what you are asking.  Are you referring to this?
> > > >
> > > >  >w .24e-2
> > > >
> > > > .0024
> > > >
> > > > Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > > > >Is it fairly typical to provide numbers in a format with a D
> > > > > followed by a power of 10, i.e. 0.240D-02 is really .0024,
> > > > > for entry into databases to be parsed and used by programs?  If it
> > > > > is, is the D-02 portion usually provided in the same piece of data
> > > > > or "cell" or whatever you want to call it, or in a different,
> > > > > perhaps adjoining, cell?
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How to make custom reports with Fileman?

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Now Kevin, haven't you written a new front end for this yet?  You must be 
having a bad weekend. ;-)

On Sunday 23 January 2005 11:04 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Can anyone see Google doing their searches this way?
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Given an arbitrary Boolean expression, how hard is
> > it (in terms of
> > complexity theory) to convert it to DNF? I don't
> > know the answer to
> > this question (but it's probably going to bug me
> > until I convince
> > myself it really is hard).
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > since the conditions A, B, C, etc can have a NOT
> >
> > in the relation,
> >
> > > this form basically reduces to a form called
> >
> > disjunctive normal form.
> >
> > > and all boolean expressions can be phrased in this
> >
> > form.
> >
> > > The tricky thing of course, is taking the
> >
> > expression you want,
> >
> > > and doing the reduction to DNF.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > > --- Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > Actually, only & works at the IF: or the OR:
> >
> > prompt.
> >
> > > > > The strategy of FM
> > > > > is that you AND terms on the prompts and let
> >
> > each of
> >
> > > > > these prompted
> > > > > specifications be ORed.  So...
> > > > >
> > > > >   IF: A&B
> > > > >  OR: A&C
> > > > >
> > > > > Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > > > > >You've defined "A" and "B", at the IF: prompt
> > > > >
> > > > > simply enter A&B or A!B, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > >From:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > > > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > >Toppenberg
> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:31 AM
> > > > > >To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to make
> >
> > custom
> >
> > > > > reports with Fileman?
> > > > >
> > > > > >Jim (and everyone else, too), replies below:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >>Kevin wrote:
> > > > > >>>Hey All,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>It seems to me that Fileman is missing a
> >
> > report
> >
> > > > > >>>generator.  Perhaps I am just overlooking
> >
> > it.
> >
> > > > > >>You overlooked it.
> > > > > >>The Search and Print options from the
> > > > > >>roll-and-scroll interface give you quite
> >
> > powerful
> >
> > > > > >>reporting capabilities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Talk about "if it had been a snake it would
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > > bit
> > > > >
> > > > > >me" Ha.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I had completely overlooked the "Search"
> >
> > Function.
> >
> > > > > >This looks similar to what I want.  But I
> >
> > still
> >
> > > > > can't
> > > > >
> > > > > >figure out how it works.  I'm clueless as to
> >
> > what
> >
> > > > > it
> > > > >
> > > > > >wants at the "IF:" prompt.  (Why can't
> >
> > Fileman be
> >
> > > > > less
> > > > >
> > > > > >terse?)  Here's a screen log of my attempts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: PATIENT//
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -A- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD: .01  NAME
> > > > > >  -A- CONDITION: ?
> > > > > >Answer with CONDITION NUMBER, or NAME
> > > > > >   Choose from:
> > > > > >   1NULL
> > > > > >   2CONTAINS
> > > > > >   3MATCHES
> > > > > >   4LESS THAN
> > > > > >   5EQUALS
> > > > > >   6GREATER THAN
> > > > > >
> > > > > >YOU CAN NEGATE ANY OF THESE CONDITIONS BY
> >
> > PRECEDING
> >
> > > > > >THEM WITH "'" OR "-"
> > > > > >SO THAT "'NULL'" MEANS "NOT NULL"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -A- CONDITION: 2  CONTAINS
> > > > > >  -A- CONTAINS: wigle
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -B- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD: sex
> > > > > >  -B- CONDITION: cONTAINS
> > > > > >  -B- CONTAINS: male
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ENTER A VALUE WHICH 'SEX'
> > > > > >MUST CONTAIN, IN ORDER FOR TRUTH
> >
> > CONDITION
> >
> > > > > -B-
> > > > >
> > > > > >TO BE TRUE
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Use EXTERNAL VALUE (from list on the right)
> > > > > > Enter 'M' for MALE, or 'F' for FEMALE.
> > > > > > Choose from:
> > > > > >   MMALE
> > > > > >   FFEMALE
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -B- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD: m
> > > > > > 1   MARITAL STATUS
> > > > > > 2   MEDICAID ELIGIBILE?  ELIGIBLE FOR
> > > > >
> > > > > MEDICAID?
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3   MEDICAID NUMBER
> > > > > > 4   METHOD OF DETERMINATION
> > > > > > 5   MILT RET DUE TO DISABILITY?
> >
> > DISABILITY
> >
> > > > > RET.
> > > > >
> > > > > >FROM MILITARY?
> > > > > >Press  to see more, '^' to exit this
> >
> > list,
> >
> > > > > OR
> > > > >
> > > > > >CHOOSE 1-5: ^??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -B- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD: sex
> > > > > >  -B- CONDITION: cONTAINS
> > > > > >  -B- CONTAINS: M
> > > > > >   [ Will match 'MALE', and 'FEMALE' ]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -C- SEARCH FOR PATIENT FIELD:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >IF: ? ??
> > > >

Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/1977coefficients2.txt

If you click on the word "Coefficients" at the top of this page, there is a 
table with this sort of notation. 

I was going to pull it into a spreadsheet and I thought it might be easier to 
separate out the exponent rather than leave it there to be parsed out.  That 
way when I exported it again, I could comma delimit it rather than "D" 
delimit it. 

I was wondering why it was done that way. Greg probably has the answer.

On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:34 pm, Greg Kreis wrote:
> I am not sure of what you are asking.  Are you referring to this?
>
>  >w .24e-2
>
> .0024
>
> Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> >Is it fairly typical to provide numbers in a format with a D followed by a
> >power of 10, i.e. 0.240D-02 is really .0024, for entry into
> >databases to be parsed and used by programs?  If it is, is the D-02
> > portion usually provided in the same piece of data or "cell" or whatever
> > you want to call it, or in a different, perhaps adjoining, cell?

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[Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Is it fairly typical to provide numbers in a format with a D followed by a 
power of 10, i.e. 0.240D-02 is really .0024, for entry into 
databases to be parsed and used by programs?  If it is, is the D-02 portion 
usually provided in the same piece of data or "cell" or whatever you want to 
call it, or in a different, perhaps adjoining, cell?  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Cant add entries to Pharmacy Orderable Item

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Please show us the output from D P^DI, Option 5, File 200, for your user 
including all fields.  

On Thursday 20 January 2005 10:42 pm, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
>
> I assigned ORES keys to the user to get the following
> response while ordering a medication
> "M  ERROR=FVSUB+2^ORWUL, Global variable undefined:
>
> ^ORD(101.44,150372994,-%GTM-E-GVUNDEFLAST
> REF=^ORD(101.44,2,20,1,0)" and "List index out of
>
> bounds (0)"
>
> And after this when I assigned the person class "MD
> Do", I got the following response
> "An error occurred on the server." and then "List
> index out of bounds (0)"
>
> And I am still not able to order drugs
>
> Thanks
> Nick
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> > I know this problem is one I have faced (with help)
> > in the past, and I don't
> > recall how it was beat for sure, but I think it
> > might have been adding the
> > Provider key (you have to have ORES for docs) or
> > maybe the Person Class MD DO
> > or having an electronic signature, all in file 200.
> >
> >
> > Please try all of those and if one does the trick,
> > let us all know which one
> > it was.
> >
> > On Thursday 20 January 2005 07:16 am, Nick James
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Hope all of you are fine.
> > > I am facing a problem regarding ordering of drugs
> >
> > from
> >
> > > CPRS. For this, an entry is required in “Pharmacy
> > > Orderable Item” file. But the problem is that I am
> > > unable to add any new records to that file via
> > > Fileman.
> > > Can somebody help me out?
> > > Thanks
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare and IT

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Is this not it?

http://www.partners.org/

I hope I have that right about who was giving EMRs out to docs.  I had better 
do a little research to make sure. Until you sent me hunting for the web 
site, I didn't realize Partners was part of the Harvard system which has that 
MUMPS based program still running as far as I know.


On Thursday 20 January 2005 02:23 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> I can't speak for partners today. However, in 1999 they were using an M
> based system and published a report comparing the search capability of
> their very robust link tree and the outcome was the anything else was
> enormously slow compared what they had. I may still have the article
> somewhere. I will see if I can find it. For the past year, I haven't been
> able to find the Partners website. Anyone have their URL.
>
> Thanks,
>
> thurman
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Anthracite
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:26 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare and IT
> >
> > This is the same article that Tom Ackerman told me about a while back.  I
> > just
> > looked back and realized he hadn't posted it to the Hardhats list so I am
> > so
> > glad you did.  We all ought to keep a copy to read the next time a
> > "Getting
> > Over M[UMPS]" article gets published.
> >
> > Incidentally, is the Partners Healthcare group in Boston using a and M
> > based
> > program?  I noticed they had someone affiliated with them helping to put
> > on
> > the  NE MUG event that was posted by Dr. Forrey on Jan 20.  A  while back
> > I
> > read they were distributing an EMR to a bunch of docs in private
> > practice.
> >
> > On Thursday 20 January 2005 11:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Thought the group might be interested in this article. It lauds the VA,
> >
> > and
> >
> > > speaks to the central role that informatics plays in the quality of
> > > care the VA provides. It's also an interesting foray into large-system
> > > management analysis. Kind of exciting to see the VA get this kind of
> >
> > press.
> >
> > > http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare and IT

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Oops, that should have been posted by Heidi Pape Laird on Jan 18!

On Thursday 20 January 2005 12:26 pm, Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> This is the same article that Tom Ackerman told me about a while back.  I
> just looked back and realized he hadn't posted it to the Hardhats list so I
> am so glad you did.  We all ought to keep a copy to read the next time a
> "Getting Over M[UMPS]" article gets published.
>
> Incidentally, is the Partners Healthcare group in Boston using a and M 
> based program?  I noticed they had someone affiliated with them helping to
> put on the  NE MUG event that was posted by Dr. Forrey on Jan 20.  A  while
> back I read they were distributing an EMR to a bunch of docs in private
> practice.
>
> On Thursday 20 January 2005 11:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Thought the group might be interested in this article. It lauds the VA,
> > and speaks to the central role that informatics plays in the quality of
> > care the VA provides. It's also an interesting foray into large-system
> > management analysis. Kind of exciting to see the VA get this kind of
> > press.
> >
> > http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Healthcare and IT

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This is the same article that Tom Ackerman told me about a while back.  I just 
looked back and realized he hadn't posted it to the Hardhats list so I am so 
glad you did.  We all ought to keep a copy to read the next time a "Getting 
Over M[UMPS]" article gets published.

Incidentally, is the Partners Healthcare group in Boston using a and M  based 
program?  I noticed they had someone affiliated with them helping to put on 
the  NE MUG event that was posted by Dr. Forrey on Jan 20.  A  while back I 
read they were distributing an EMR to a bunch of docs in private practice. 

On Thursday 20 January 2005 11:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thought the group might be interested in this article. It lauds the VA, and
> speaks to the central role that informatics plays in the quality of care
> the VA provides. It's also an interesting foray into large-system
> management analysis. Kind of exciting to see the VA get this kind of press.
>
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Cant add entries to Pharmacy Orderable Item

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Nick, 

I know this problem is one I have faced (with help) in the past, and I don't 
recall how it was beat for sure, but I think it might have been adding the 
Provider key (you have to have ORES for docs) or maybe the Person Class MD DO 
or having an electronic signature, all in file 200.  

Please try all of those and if one does the trick, let us all know which one 
it was.  

On Thursday 20 January 2005 07:16 am, Nick James wrote:
> Hi
> Hope all of you are fine.
> I am facing a problem regarding ordering of drugs from
> CPRS. For this, an entry is required in “Pharmacy
> Orderable Item” file. But the problem is that I am
> unable to add any new records to that file via
> Fileman.
> Can somebody help me out?
> Thanks
> Nick
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[Hardhats-members] OsiriX, iPODS and Medical Imaging

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

We have got to get OsiriX ported to Linux and integrated with VistA.  Maybe 
Joseph will give us an update about what, if anything, is going on with that.  

http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=11135&hed=iPods+make+the+rounds%A7or=Capital&subsector=PrivateMarkets
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Re: [Hardhats-members] OR* NAMESPACE

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

That is order entry results reporting.  Check out the namespaces. txt file in 
the directory ftp.va.gov/vista/software and the documentation I think is all 
in the CPRS section.

On Tuesday 18 January 2005 04:21 pm, James Gray wrote:
> Has the OR* namespace been subsumed under a different namespace or replaced
> as a package.  The documentation does not seem to be on the vdl web site,
> or maybe I am just missing something.
> Jim Gray
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista Lite???

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

VistALite is now VistAOffice and it has not been released. However, VistA 
itself, on which VistAOffice is built, is available if you are interested in 
that.


On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:24 pm, Alberto Odor Morales wrote:
> Is there some source from which Vista Lite can be downloaded for testing?
>
> Is it ready?
>
>
>
> Alberto Odor, MD
> Chief, Research Division
> National Center for Excellence Technology in Health
>
> Ministry of Health (Mexico)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy overview please.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

John Leo might like to jump in here as he set up something to print 
prescriptions with a picture of the patient on them.  I don't know how easily 
his code would integrate with VistA, if it would at all.  

For my nonEMR use, I use a prescription templates for Meds I commonly use, and 
I suspect the template system in CPRS might be adaptable for writing 
prescriptions by calling in the fields on a form to make the prescription, 
i.e., name DOB, address, DEA number, doctor's name, etc. and then the med 
fields.  I don't know if that would work as I have only read about templates, 
not made them. I assume you could put calculated fields in templates to get 
the correct dose by patient weight, etc.  It would have to be done very 
carefully to avoid errors, which I suspect is at the root of Mark's desire to 
have a pharmacist involved.  However, I doubt Kevin has one in his practice, 
so it will likely have to be doc checking doc.
 

On Sunday 16 January 2005 03:36 pm, Mark Amundson wrote:
> Kevin’s questions:
>    class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">1. Add patient's drug list into chart in CPRS
>   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier
> New'">  The
> simplest would be to manually add them for each patient. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  I would not rule out importing them
> if you had all the right info in the right
> format/places.   Look
> at:   CPRS
> Technical Manual (GUI)  style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">  Medication Tab Setting – Pg
> 42  style="mso-tab-count: 1">  Orders Tab
> Setting – Pg 44    href="http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd_Sys_(CPRS
>)/CPRSGUITM.pdf">http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd
>_Sys_(CPRS)/CPRSGUITM.pdf  style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">CPRS User Guide   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">  Meds Tab – Pg
> 107  style="mso-tab-count: 1">  Orders Tab –
> Pg 125    href="http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd_Sys_(CPRS
>)/cprsguium.pdf">http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd
>_Sys_(CPRS)/cprsguium.pdf  style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You will also want to look at the Order Menu Management
> option (I think the option name is ORCM MGMT, but not a computer to verify
> it).  For order set and quick
> order setup.     2. Write
> new prescriptions in CPRS, and have script get printed out for patient to
> take to pharmacy.   The same
> as #1 but current FOIA does not print a prescription once an order is
> signed, simply stated it is sent to the VA’s pharmacy to be finished and
> then filled.  The only written
> prescription floating around most VA’s are SCH II and fee basis MD’s, there
> is a pilot project out there to get rid of SCH II written prescriptions in
> the VA’s.  There is an option
> call Action Profile that does print prescriptions in a list this but I do
> not see it very workable for a clinic.  What is needed is code that will print the prescription
> after a prescription gets an electronic signature. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  We have looked at this but stopped
> doing any further work on this project since one of VistAOfficeEHR
> modifications (as I u nder stand it) will be to print prescriptions,
> possibly fax the prescription and in future releases send them
> electronically to a pharmacy. 
> I do not know what or how VistAOfficeEHR is going to handle this if
> anybody does please let me/us know.  class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">3. Refill scripts by choosing a previously entered drug and
> choosing number of refills etc.   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">See #1 and #2 above. 
> But yes renews are easily done.  class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">4. Ideally have some screening for allergies and drug
> interactions.   For Meds
> it will do Drug-Drug interaction, Allergies, Duplicate drug class and
> others via the CPRS Expert system and I belive some are hard coded. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  For complete info and how to set up
> see the CPRS Technical Manual:  style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">  Appendix E – Order Check – Pg
> 275    href="http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd_Sys_(CPRS
>)/CPRSLMTM.pdf">http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd_
>Sys_(CPRS)/CPRSLMTM.pdf  style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">   style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">NOTE:  These
> manuals talk about some features that may or may not be in you current CPRS
> version.  The most obvious to
> me is NON-VA Meds, but this should give you a good start on Meds in
> CPRS.  You can skip over the
> inpatient ordering info, I can not think of any case where it would affect
> what I believe you want t

Re: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy overview please.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

If someone who has done a recent installation of a FOIA will check, I suspect 
the National Drug File is included but the a local formulary is not. The 
National Drug File was accepted as a terminology standard by NHII about a 
year ago (http://www.aspe.hhs.gov/sp/nhii/Standards.html). 

On Saturday 15 January 2005 11:26 pm, T Maynard wrote:
> Regarding Kevin's goal of keeping the vista globals filled
> with  a current formulary at a location synchronized to the
> national formulary:
>   http://www.vapbm.org/PBM/natform.htm
> As I recall that site offers the smaller interim updates in
> excel format and the larger complete formulary was in access
> database format (some other files are DBaseIII). (right now
> the site says that the larger file is under Revision, so I
> can't confirm that). These common formats seem odd for
> national site that supports VA pharmacies who live so much
> inside of Vista. Maybe these formats are  just for the duty
> of public presentation and discussion prior to local
> formulary updates.
>So my question that perhaps Cameron can answer:
> Are these the formats that VA pharmacies actually receive
> formulary updates in?
> Then is there a utility for importing into globals?
>   Or is there a separate pipeline for delivering  the same
> data in a Vista friendly format?
>
> Rusty
>
> Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > The VistA FOIA comes devoid of formulary entries since it was never
> > exported with any entries.  Each site entered their own formulary two
> > decades ago, and then mapped their entries to the National Drug File (a
> > massive set of reference tables the VA keeps up to date).  I understand
> > the Hui folks have done the most to create utilities to assist in
> > populating and knitting the files together for pharmacy, and will be
> > providing some of that work to help the VistA-Office EHR to have
> > something pre-populated.
> >
> > What you describe for the average clinic (that doesn't have its own
> > pharmacy) is what will need to be in place in VistA-Office EHR.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Toppenberg
> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:48 PM
> > To: Hardhats Sourceforge
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy overview please.
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Here is what we would like to do about pharmacy.
> > There is a great deal of documentation about pharmacy
> > in the VA Doc library, but I need to know where to
> > focus in.  I need to know if these tasks are possible,
> > and how to config.
> >
> > 1. Add patient's drug list into chart in CPRS
> > 2. Write new prescriptions in CPRS, and have script
> > get printed out for patient to take to pharmacy
> > 3. Refill scripts by choosing a previously entered
> > drug and choosing number of refills etc.
> > 4. Ideally have some screening for allergies and drug
> > interactions.
> >
> > I have cooresponded with a pharmacist that was selling
> > a service of keeping a drug file up to date.  Is this
> > required or does the FOIA vista have all the drugs
> > already entered into the file?
> >
> > Much of the documentation seems to be regarding
> > supporting an actual pharmacy, and for inpatient
> > pharmacy issues.  I will want to skip over those
> > features.
> >
> > So any pointers or suggestions as to which documents
> > to read first?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Introducing OpenVistA SemiVivA VA Demo 0.1

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

If you disconnect CPRS, does Broker still not shut down, and what do you get 
when you run D ^ZTMON?  Also, have you see Bhaskar's white paper at 
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=19563&group_id=11026 as I 
wonder if it has some information that will help you get at what is going on.

I don't have any trouble with any run away processes when I use  the demo 
configured as I described.  However, it is definitely NOT a production 
quality release of VistA and is full of lots of extra routines, etc., so I 
don't know it is worth spending a lot of time trying to fix it.

On Thursday 13 January 2005 09:57 pm, T Maynard wrote:
> Kevin,
>   That confirms that a minimal Vista should be able to run
> CPRS with only a few routine calls from GTM prompt.
> Doesn't that also mean that if no menu driven services
> are called , then menu definitions for the system manager
> are not an issue?
>Below is the outcome with just starting taskmanager and
> RPC broker service (which cannot be stopped once the CPRS
> connects and Vista server goes bonkers)
> Rusty
>
> 
> GTM>d ^XUP
>
> Setting up programmer environment
> Access Code:
>
> Terminal Type set to: C-VT100
>
> Select OPTION NAME: ^
> GTM>w DUZ
> 138
> GTM>d ^ZTMB
>
> GTM>d STRT^XWBTCP(9200)
> Start TCP Listener...
> Checking if TCP Listener has started...
> TCP Listener started successfully.
> GTM>
>
> ## see if we can stop it before CPRS
> GTM>d STOP^XWBTCP(9200)
>
> Stop TCP Listener...
> TCP Listener has been shutdown.
>
> GTM>d STRT^XWBTCP(9200)
> Start TCP Listener...
> Checking if TCP Listener has started...
> TCP Listener started successfully.
> --> CPRS connects here <---
>
> GTM>d STOP^XWBTCP(9200)
>
> Stop TCP Listener...
> Shutdown Failed!
> GTM>h
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$
> top - 21:46:06 up 11:14,  1 user,  load average: 0.72, 0.35,
> 0.26
> Tasks:  64 total,   2 running,  62 sleeping,   0 stopped,
> 0 zombie
> Cpu(s): 46.4% us, 53.3% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,
> 0.3% hi,  0.0% si
> Mem:758984k total,   557036k used,   201948k free,
> 33676k buffers
> Swap:  3180788k total,0k used,  3180788k free,
> 284772k cached
>
>PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+
>   COMMAND
>   4736 ty25   0 24072 2936  21m R 68.3  0.4
> 1:10.66 mumps
>   4625 ty15   0 26888  15m  24m S 17.2  2.1
> 0:08.43 xvt
>   3093 root  15   0 63828  43m  24m S 11.9  5.8  11:12.96 X
>   3215 ty15   0 24424  12m  22m S  0.7  1.7
> 1:24.57 kdeinit
>   3123 ty15   0  5464 3592 4192 S  0.3  0.5
> 1:01.27 icewm
>   3161 ty15   0  129m  62m  35m S  0.3  8.5
> 23:06.35 mozilla-bin
>   3838 ty15   0 26148  14m  23m S  0.3  2.0
> 1:32.48 klipper
>   4747 ty17   0  2168 1020 1964 R  0.3  0.1
> 0:00.04 top
>  1 root  16   0  1580  516 1424 S  0.0  0.1
> 0:03.46 init
>  2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0
> 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
>  3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0
> 0:00.78 events/0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ mupip stop 4736
> STOP issued to process 4736
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ mupip rundown -r "*"
> %GTM-I-MUFILRNDWNSUC, File /usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.dat
> successfully rundown
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$
>
> Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > Rusty,
> >
> > Seems like I wasn't able to get my HL7 system working
> > either (yet).  And my CPRS is working fine.  So I
> > think it is only need for use with HL7 messaging.  I
> > am guessing this might be in cases of interfacing with
> > lab equipment, or transferring records (?)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- T Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>As the 3rd item for startup described for the Hui
> >>Openvista
> >>release. Is a running HL7 service required for
> >>running
> >>VistaDemo to support CPRS?
> >>   If serving CPRS requires at least 1 running HL7 I
> >>&O
> >>processor ,this HL filermonitor can only request
> >>processes
> >>and they all remain perpetually "not yet
> >>started" status
> >>and I have accumulated  9 + requests with testing
> >>that have
> >>earned a place somewhere in the persistent globals.
> >>Neither
> >>"stop" or delete succeed for any I/O filer
> >>processor.
> >>
> >> Well I would still like to have a running
> >>VistaDemo to
> >>study even it has been purposely altered and is not
> >>intended
> 

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I don't just mean difficulty in doing it.  I mean permission to do it.

On Thursday 13 January 2005 09:13 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> That's why I mentioned it - somewhat quicker for the non-coders and
> especially those that don't have a full copy of Delphi sitting around.
>
> /David.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:06 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.
>
> Nancy,
>
> I think you are right about the difficulty of
> re-compiling the code.  I wish we could put in
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Kevin, was your post the Dec 20 at about 9:43 post
> > that you are referring to?
> > Also, these folks do not necessarily have the option
> > of changing code, so
> > they may need to go the DMZ route and configure
> > their software firewall
> > correctly to get CPRS to work.
> >
> > On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:57 pm, Kevin
> >
> > Toppenberg wrote:
> > > Again, I would refer you all to the post about
> >
> > CPRS
> >
> > > and one port.
> > >
> > > One of the critisms of my fix came back that my
> > > solution would allow only ONE client program to
> >
> > the
> >
> > > server from a given workstation.
> > >
> > > Next time I recompile CPRS, I think I will put a
> > > command line option in that will allow the user to
> > > specify the callback port they want: 0 for random,
> >
> > or
> >
> > > some other specified port.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Well, I spoke too soon.  For at least 3 weeks I
> >
> > was
> >
> > > > accessing CPRS daily
> > > > with no problems.  Now I am having the same
> >
> > problem
> >
> > > > Marcia mentioned.
> > > > Jim Gray
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:19 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.
> > > >
> > > > >I should add that Marcia and I are working on
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > same project and both
> > > >
> > > > >accessing CPRS over the internet.  I am using a
> > > >
> > > > Linksys Wireless router and
> > > >
> > > > >I do not have the same problem that Marcia does
> > > >
> > > > even though I am going
> > > >
> > > > >through my router.  There are others working on
> > > >
> > > > this who also have the
> > > >
> > > > >problem that Marcia is having.
> > > > > Jim Gray
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:07 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.
> > > > >
> > > > >> My router uses the term "DMZ" to indicate a
> > > >
> > > > computer
> > > >
> > > > >> 'outside the firewall.'  It means that any
> >
> > signal
> >
> > > > that
> > > >
> > > > >> would otherwise be blocked is automatically
> >
> > sent
> >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > >> the DMZ computer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You might have a problem if your computer
> >
> > gets a
> >
> > > > new
> > > >
> > > > >> IP address from the router every time it
> >
> > boots up
> >
> > > > >> (i.e. dynamic IP addressing), as you would
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > >> change the IP address of the DMZ computer
> >
> > each
> >
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > >> Kevin
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > > >
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> &g

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Kevin, was your post the Dec 20 at about 9:43 post that you are referring to? 
Also, these folks do not necessarily have the option of changing code, so 
they may need to go the DMZ route and configure their software firewall 
correctly to get CPRS to work.

On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:57 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Again, I would refer you all to the post about CPRS
> and one port.
>
> One of the critisms of my fix came back that my
> solution would allow only ONE client program to the
> server from a given workstation.
>
> Next time I recompile CPRS, I think I will put a
> command line option in that will allow the user to
> specify the callback port they want: 0 for random, or
> some other specified port.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, I spoke too soon.  For at least 3 weeks I was
> > accessing CPRS daily
> > with no problems.  Now I am having the same problem
> > Marcia mentioned.
> > Jim Gray
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.
> >
> > >I should add that Marcia and I are working on the
> >
> > same project and both
> >
> > >accessing CPRS over the internet.  I am using a
> >
> > Linksys Wireless router and
> >
> > >I do not have the same problem that Marcia does
> >
> > even though I am going
> >
> > >through my router.  There are others working on
> >
> > this who also have the
> >
> > >problem that Marcia is having.
> > > Jim Gray
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.
> > >
> > >> My router uses the term "DMZ" to indicate a
> >
> > computer
> >
> > >> 'outside the firewall.'  It means that any signal
> >
> > that
> >
> > >> would otherwise be blocked is automatically sent
> >
> > to
> >
> > >> the DMZ computer.
> > >>
> > >> You might have a problem if your computer gets a
> >
> > new
> >
> > >> IP address from the router every time it boots up
> > >> (i.e. dynamic IP addressing), as you would have
> >
> > to
> >
> > >> change the IP address of the DMZ computer each
> >
> > time.
> >
> > >> Kevin
> > >>
> > >> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> I think I can guess how you are set up.  The
> >
> > only
> >
> > >>> way to access a VistA server
> > >>> over the Internet that I know of is if it is
> >
> > outside
> >
> > >>> the fire wall.  When you
> > >>> have your router connected instead of connecting
> > >>> directly to your modem, you
> > >>> are inside a firewall and do not have a routable
> >
> > IP.
> >
> > >>>  Most routers have a
> > >>> setting to allow you to put your individual
> >
> > computer
> >
> > >>> outside of the firewall.
> > >>> find out your computers IP, if it is a Linux
> >
> > machine
> >
> > >>> use /sbin/ifconfig and
> > >>> if a Windows machine use Strart-
> >
> > Run-CMD-IPconfig
> >
> > >>> and find your IP, something
> > >>> like 192.168.0.101 and then configure your
> >
> > router to
> >
> > >>> put that outside of the
> > >>> firewall.  Hopefully, the individual computer
> >
> > has a
> >
> > >>> software firewall
> > >>> installed that you can configure to have an
> >
> > opening
> >
> > >>> only for CPRS so that
> > >>> your computer is not vulnerable to attack.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thursday 13 January 2005 08:26 am, MARCIA
> > >>>
> > >>> MCKINZIE wrote:
> > >>> > Hi, I am new to hardhats, and just learning
> >
> > VistA
> >
> > >>> software, although I have
> > >>>
> > >>> > been programming in M for quite a while.
&

[Hardhats-members] Brailer and IT Infrastructure

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Introducing OpenVistA SemiVivA VA Demo 0.1

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

What is the HL filer monitor and how did you start it?

On Thursday 13 January 2005 01:35 pm, T Maynard wrote:
>Back into the saga of running a new install of VistaDemo
> SEmi viva, until the fix is found, I wonder if my startup
> difficulties are at all representative of any commonly
> missed step.
> The same error is generated by CPRS and the server
> continues to respond to contact by going overboard  and
> requiring a mupip stop process. Following this, query to
> ^XTER does not report any errors (not that I understand the
>   format for normal reports)
>
>   All GTM startup command lines seem to run OK
>
>   Options run from d ^XUP seem to run OK as
> user 138:
> Exception:  starting  HL filer monitor allows only the
> addition of filer processes and none can be deleted...all in
> existence are described "not yet started"
>How might that overload the server upon CPRS connection?
>
> Here is the context for startup user:
> GTM>w DUZ
> 138
> GTM>W ^VA(200,DUZ,0)
> MANAGER,SYSTEM^SM^WORLDVISTAIS#1^#
>
> Regarding this item from Nancy: "You need to use the correct
> system manager to have things work, or make yourself a user
> who has exactly the same settings in the NEW PERSON file."
>What settings should I check/confirm as necessary (for
> what  seems to be this default user)?
>
>   I ran ZTMGRSET for gtm/unix which makes no difference
> (anyway Nancy indicates  that ZTMGRSET was successfully run
> prior to distribution)
>
>   The local network addresses ping OK both ways ..and the
> act of connecting CPRS actually starts some process that
> overwhelms the server.
>
>   Any further suggestions will be much appreciated.
>
> Rusty
>
> Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > What do you get when you run ^XTER?
> >
> > I would think you should be able to run ZTMGRSET.
> >
> > On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:48 am, T Maynard wrote:
> >>Nancy,
> >>   Although I have a different location for vista_home, all
> >>the definitions seem to be working for GTM and the globals.
> >>After assuming identity of '138, all the fileman
> >>access and  services seem to startup OK  but:
> >>
> >>after starting RPC broker the Linux machine is just idling.
> >>*until* I connect with CPRS 23-15 which gives
> >>"Error Encountered Function was: recv
> >>Error was:WSAETIMEDOUT"
> >>which causes the server to go to 97% cpu continuously
> >>the  D STOP^XWBTCP(9200) fails to stop the process and I
> >>have to exit GTM and run mupip stop process.
> >>
> >>  I guess that behaviour can't be due to lack of ZTMGRSET.
> >>
> >>I'll have to stop my own processes for today, and revisit
> >>tomorrow ...thanks for the help.
> >>
> >>Rusty
> >>
> >>Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> >>>At the end of this post are the instructions for getting it going in the
> >>>environment I set it up in (with lots of help, of course), but it is
> >>>apparently not configured the same way as Bhaskar posted it.  I had it
> >>>configured with VistA routines and globals in the VADemo off of
> >>>the /home/user/VADemo directory and the GTM routines were in
> >>>/usr/local/gtm and the name of the machine was Morphix.  It was
> >>>configured to be run from a Morphix DVD in that same configuration
> >>>because I did not realize Bhaskar did not configure things the same way
> >>> I did.  It is not started by running a script called "vista" in my
> >>> configuration.  You need to use the correct system manager to have
> >>> things work, or make yourself a user who has exactly the same settings
> >>> in the NEW PERSON file.
> >>>
> >>>These are my environment variables, and it works with these if set up as
> >>>described above.  The ZTMGRSET was run.
> >>>
> >>>export vista_home=VADemo
> >>>export gtm_vista="$HOME/VADemo"
> >>>export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> >>>export PATH="$PATH:$gtm_dist"
> >>>export gtm_log=/usr/local/gtm/logs
> >>>export gtmgbldir="$HOME/VADemo/g/mumps.gld"
> >>>export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista/r) $gtm_dist";
> >>>export globals=/home/nancy/VADemo/ZWR
> >>>
> >>>alias ll.='ls -dl .* --color=tty'
> >>>alias GTM="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
> >>>alias gtm='$gtm_dist/mumps -direct'
> >>>alias m

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS errors.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I think I can guess how you are set up.  The only way to access a VistA server 
over the Internet that I know of is if it is outside the fire wall.  When you 
have your router connected instead of connecting directly to your modem, you 
are inside a firewall and do not have a routable IP.  Most routers have a 
setting to allow you to put your individual computer outside of the firewall.  
find out your computers IP, if it is a Linux machine use /sbin/ifconfig and 
if a Windows machine use Strart- Run-CMD-IPconfig and find your IP, something 
like 192.168.0.101 and then configure your router to put that outside of the 
firewall.  Hopefully, the individual computer has a software firewall 
installed that you can configure to have an opening only for CPRS so that 
your computer is not vulnerable to attack.

On Thursday 13 January 2005 08:26 am, MARCIA MCKINZIE wrote:
> Hi, I am new to hardhats, and just learning VistA software, although I have
> been programming in M for quite a while.
>
> My question has to due with CPRS and Delphi errors.  I am working on VistA
> over an internet connection.  I am encountering a couple of problems.
>
> 1.) I can access CPRS as long as my router is disconnected, but when my
> router (netgear wireless G) is connected I get a timeout error
> (WSAETIMEDOUT) and don't even get connected to enter an access/verification
> code.  Is there some security setting that interferes with CPRS?  My router
> currently has the following protocols: NAT, SPI, DoS, IDS, WEP encryption
> and some other wireless security.
>
> 2.)  I get an error trying to access some templates.  When I get into CPRS
> and click on the notes tab and then the templates section.  When I click on
> some templates an error comes up and my window is closed.  Following is the
> error message:  Error encountered.  Function was: recv  Error was: 10107 
> and when I hit OK button I get the following error Error encountered. 
> Function was: recv Error was: 6.  Sometimes I get the message invalid
> pointer error.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Marcia McKinzie
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Introducing OpenVistA SemiVivA VA Demo 0.1

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

What do you get when you run ^XTER?  

I would think you should be able to run ZTMGRSET. 

On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:48 am, T Maynard wrote:
> Nancy,
>Although I have a different location for vista_home, all
> the definitions seem to be working for GTM and the globals.
> After assuming identity of '138, all the fileman
> access and  services seem to startup OK  but:
>
> after starting RPC broker the Linux machine is just idling.
> *until* I connect with CPRS 23-15 which gives
> "Error Encountered Function was: recv
> Error was:WSAETIMEDOUT"
> which causes the server to go to 97% cpu continuously
> the  D STOP^XWBTCP(9200) fails to stop the process and I
> have to exit GTM and run mupip stop process.
>
>   I guess that behaviour can't be due to lack of ZTMGRSET.
>
> I'll have to stop my own processes for today, and revisit
> tomorrow ...thanks for the help.
>
> Rusty
>
> Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > At the end of this post are the instructions for getting it going in the
> > environment I set it up in (with lots of help, of course), but it is
> > apparently not configured the same way as Bhaskar posted it.  I had it
> > configured with VistA routines and globals in the VADemo off of
> > the /home/user/VADemo directory and the GTM routines were in
> > /usr/local/gtm and the name of the machine was Morphix.  It was
> > configured to be run from a Morphix DVD in that same configuration
> > because I did not realize Bhaskar did not configure things the same way I
> > did.  It is not started by running a script called "vista" in my
> > configuration.  You need to use the correct system manager to have things
> > work, or make yourself a user who has exactly the same settings in the
> > NEW PERSON file.
> >
> > These are my environment variables, and it works with these if set up as
> > described above.  The ZTMGRSET was run.
> >
> > export vista_home=VADemo
> > export gtm_vista="$HOME/VADemo"
> > export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> > export PATH="$PATH:$gtm_dist"
> > export gtm_log=/usr/local/gtm/logs
> > export gtmgbldir="$HOME/VADemo/g/mumps.gld"
> > export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista/r) $gtm_dist";
> > export globals=/home/nancy/VADemo/ZWR
> >
> > alias ll.='ls -dl .* --color=tty'
> > alias GTM="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
> > alias gtm='$gtm_dist/mumps -direct'
> > alias mupip="$gtm_dist/mupip"
> > alias gde="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE"
> > alias GDE="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE"
> > alias lke="$gtm_dist/lke"
> > alias dse="$gtm_dist/dse"
> > alias LKE="$gtm_dist/lke"
> > alias DSE="$gtm_dist/dse"
> > alias rundown="$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \"*\""
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Start GTM, then D ^XUP Access code is WORLDVISTAIS#1.  If you
> > want to change it, D P^DI, Option 1, File 200, person is `138 and
> > change ACCESS CODE. (That is the "tic" below the ~ on your keyboard and
> > there are 8 zeros between the 1 and the 38)  Then go back to the GTM
> > prompts and back to D ^XUP.
> >
> > Then start Taskman D ^ZTMB and D ^ZTMON and then after Taskman is up and
> > running (takes about 2 minutes to clear the startup hang), run D
> > STRT^XWBTCP(9200) (you may use some port other than 9200 if you want.)
> > then use the CPRSChart.exe the 23-15 version that is in OR_30_187.zip
> > found in Order_Entry_Results_Reporting in the Software, Package section
> > of ftp .va.gov/vista.
> >
> > When you shut down, D STOP^XWBTCP(9200) and then D STOP^ZTMKU.  When it
> > all stops, halt GTM and then do
> >
> > mupip rundown -r "*"
> >
> > and then if it will not rundown, do the linux command
> >
> > ps -ef|grep mumps
> >
> > and stop all the mumps processes with
> >
> > mupip stop [process number]
> >
> >
> > Then go back and do the rundown again.
> >
> > 8
> >
> > On Wednesday 12 January 2005 07:47 pm, T Maynard wrote:
> >>Confession:  I discovered a faulty environmental variable
> >>for $vista_home  set to "/usr/localOpenVistA"  missing a "/"
> >>
> >>   After correcting this I now have Fileman and XUP login to
> >>Options... but this gives me the opportunity to ask:
> >>   How is this $vista_home env.variable functioning for GTM?
> 

Re: [Hardhats-members] Introducing OpenVistA SemiVivA VA Demo 0.1

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

This is the "same demo" after porting and tweaking to make it run on GTM.  If 
you would like the original FOIA version that runs on Cache and the 
instructions for getting it to run,  send me an email and I will send you 
information about  how to download it.

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 06:02 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> hmmm should have clarified my messageI meant "how the VA put the
> demo together"...not how Bhaskar packaged it :-),  ie. it is my
> understanding that the demo was not assembled by the VA with the intent
> to show anything more than CPRS so anything else you get out of it
> without it crashing is serendipitous. BTW this is the same demo that is
> available via the online demo siteNancy and I got it via a FOIA
> request... thank you VA!!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
> K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
> > I am not sure that the demo was "GT.Mized", e.g., by running ZTMGRSET.
> > I didn't do it (at that time, I didn't realize that it was needed), and
> > I am not sure that it was done before it came to me to package.
> >
> > -- Bhaskar
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 16:27, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> >> From what I understand of how the demo was put together I would not
> >>have too much faith in doing anything more than playing with CPRS. This
> >>demo is not a properly configured system...so while a lot beyond CPRS
> >>may work or seem to workthe problems you can run into beyond CPRS
> >>may be due to how the demo was assembled.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Joseph
> >>
> >>T Maynard wrote:
> >>>  I am reviving this thread subject from around Oct 11 2004.  The
> >>>suggestion by Joseph that VistaDemo would be good for  newcomer Rod
> >>>Roark, motivates me to revisit it because I want to see its sample
> >>>clinical data in situ. In October, I was able to get authenticated
> >>>using  Nancy's instruction on this thread and amended users, perhaps
> >>>adversely.
> >>>  Upon returning to it I was stumped and also worried about having
> >>>tampered with it previously so I reinstalled back to the enigmatic
> >>>beginning where:
> >>>
> >>>d ^XUP
> >>> yields ->  "Setting up Programmer Environment"
> >>> but without a followup  * Identity= *   prompt and there is no Options
> >>>offered.
> >>>
> >>>d p^DI
> >>> does not yield fileman menus  and
> >>>other routines such as startup taskman do not generate either screen
> >>>results or error messages.
> >>>
> >>>   This makes me suspicious of GTM system variables such as gtmroutines
> >>>...but I think every thing is at the default definitions and locations
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ echo $gtmroutines
> >>>/usr/local/OpenVistA/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/gtm
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ echo $gtmgbldir
> >>>/usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.gld
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall that running  D ^ARJTGTM  was necessary for this
> >>>Semiviva Demo.
> >>>Is there a step by step guide for Demo startup or would someone lead me
> >>>by the hand?
> >>>
> >>>Rusty Maynard
> >>>
> >>>Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> >>>>The lack of information about this demo is entirely my fault.  I was
> >>>>supposed to write instructions, and have not yet. It is the same demo
> >>>>that you see at www.va.gov/CPRSdemo ported to GTM.  He has made it so
> >>>>you can install it on your hard drive if it is SemiViva, and run it
> >>>>off the Knoppix DVD you create if it is Viva (which will unpack to be
> >>>>a .iso file to be burned onto a DVD).  If you are looking at a script
> >>>>to run, it is likely the former, SemiViva, to be installed on your
> >>>>hard drive in Linux.
> >>>>Bhaskar usually includes instructions for where you can download
> >>>>Xdialog, which installs easily.
> >>>> This is purely a demo for CPRS as it has lots of routines in it that
> >>>>were used to make it, etc., and it is not really to be used as a model
> >>>>of a fully configured and functional system.  When you look at the
> >>>>online demo, you will see it has doctors like One, Doctor and patients
> >>>>like One, Patient and the like.
> >>>>The short version of the instru

Re: [Hardhats-members] Introducing OpenVistA SemiVivA VA Demo 0.1

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Demo would be good for  newcomer Rod
> >>>Roark, motivates me to revisit it because I want to see its sample
> >>>clinical data in situ. In October, I was able to get authenticated
> >>>using  Nancy's instruction on this thread and amended users, perhaps
> >>>adversely.
> >>>  Upon returning to it I was stumped and also worried about having
> >>>tampered with it previously so I reinstalled back to the enigmatic
> >>>beginning where:
> >>>
> >>>d ^XUP
> >>> yields ->  "Setting up Programmer Environment"
> >>> but without a followup  * Identity= *   prompt and there is no Options
> >>>offered.
> >>>
> >>>d p^DI
> >>> does not yield fileman menus  and
> >>>other routines such as startup taskman do not generate either screen
> >>>results or error messages.
> >>>
> >>>   This makes me suspicious of GTM system variables such as gtmroutines
> >>>...but I think every thing is at the default definitions and locations
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ echo $gtmroutines
> >>>/usr/local/OpenVistA/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/gtm
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ty]$ echo $gtmgbldir
> >>>/usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.gld
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall that running  D ^ARJTGTM  was necessary for this
> >>>Semiviva Demo.
> >>>Is there a step by step guide for Demo startup or would someone lead me
> >>>by the hand?
> >>>
> >>>Rusty Maynard
> >>>
> >>>Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> >>>>The lack of information about this demo is entirely my fault.  I was
> >>>>supposed to write instructions, and have not yet. It is the same demo
> >>>>that you see at www.va.gov/CPRSdemo ported to GTM.  He has made it so
> >>>>you can install it on your hard drive if it is SemiViva, and run it
> >>>>off the Knoppix DVD you create if it is Viva (which will unpack to be
> >>>>a .iso file to be burned onto a DVD).  If you are looking at a script
> >>>>to run, it is likely the former, SemiViva, to be installed on your
> >>>>hard drive in Linux.
> >>>>Bhaskar usually includes instructions for where you can download
> >>>>Xdialog, which installs easily.
> >>>> This is purely a demo for CPRS as it has lots of routines in it that
> >>>>were used to make it, etc., and it is not really to be used as a model
> >>>>of a fully configured and functional system.  When you look at the
> >>>>online demo, you will see it has doctors like One, Doctor and patients
> >>>>like One, Patient and the like.
> >>>>The short version of the instructions once you have installed follow.
> >>>>Longer and more detailed instructions will follow once I have time to
> >>>>work on them.  My apologies for not getting on them sooner, but my son
> >>>>is paying me an unexpected visit, so I am spending time with him.
> >>>>
> >>>>Start GTM, then D ^XUP Access code is WORLDVISTAIS#1, I think.  If you
> >>>>want to change it, D P^DI, Option 1, File 200, person is `138
> >>>> and change ACCESS CODE. (That is the "tic" below the ~ on your
> >>>> keyboard and there are 8 zeros between the 1 and the 38)  Then go back
> >>>> to the GTM prompts and back to D ^XUP.
> >>>>
> >>>>Then start Taskman D ^ZTMB and D ^ZTMON and then after Taskman is up
> >>>>and running (takes about 2 minutes to clear the startup hang), run D
> >>>>STRT^XWBTCP(9200) (you may use some port other than 9200 if you want.)
> >>>>then use the CPRSChart.exe the 23-15 version that is in OR_30_187.zip
> >>>>found in Order_Entry_Results_Reporting in the Software, Package
> >>>>section of ftp .va.gov/vista.
> >>>>
> >>>>When you shut down, D STOP^XWBTCP(9200) and then D STOP^ZTMKU.  When it
> >>>>all stops, halt GTM and then do
> >>>>
> >>>>mupip rundown -r "*"
> >>>>
> >>>>and then if it will not rundown, do the linux command
> >>>>
> >>>>ps -ef|grep mumps
> >>>>
> >>>>and stop all the mumps processes with
> >>>>
> >>>>mupip stop [process number]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS autoupdate

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Thanks very much, Cameron!

On Tuesday 11 January 2005 04:37 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> I located the source code for it.  It's in cprs_update.zip and I've placed
> it under
>
> ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/Packages/Order%20Entry-Results%20Reporting%
>2 0-%20OR/Programs/
>
> (be sure to include both lines together, of course)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E.
> Anthracite
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:15 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS autoupdate
>
> If it is available to us, it is probably buried in one of the OR*.zip files
> on
> the ftp.va.gov/vista then /Software then /Packages then /Order Entry
> Results
>
> Reporting.  Since that was apparently a Beta release, if it was not
> released
>
> nationwide, it will not likely be available to us.  Hopefully, someone
> inside
> the VA will know if it was released nationwide and then we will have an
> idea
>
> if it can be found or will be available to the outside world.
>
> On Wednesday 08 December 2004 12:17 pm, Christian Alexis Diez Ocaña wrote:
> > Hi You all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Wondering if the CPRSupdate.exe program
> >
> > (mentioned in
>
> http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Comp_Patient_Recrd_Sys_(CPRS)/cprs
>
> >ig.doc )
> >
> > is under the FOIA software and where can I download it from?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Alexis

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux question: 'expect' help needed

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Kevin, I am not quite clear what  you want.  Do you want to have it answer 
that same question the same way 10,000 times, like a loop until it stops 
being presented the question?  

On Tuesday 11 January 2005 08:18 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I need a straight-forward script for expect.  I have
> been trying to read the documentation for expect, but
> am a bit overwhelmed.
>
> I need the script to look for a given phrase, and give
> an answer for me.
>
> Here is my attempt so far:
>
> #!/usr/bin/expect
>
> spawn telnet aix
>   expect "Is this the same patient?" {send N ;
> exp_continue}
> exit
>
>
> I have gotten a slightly different form of the above
> to automatically log in for me.  My problem is that I
> need to go through a complex set of menus to get to
> the point where it starts asking me the same question
> 10,000 times.
>
> Looking in the documentation, I see a command to turn
> control over to the user (i.e. me) for awhile, then
> return control to the expect script.
>
> I am still not grasping how the program cycles, etc.
>
> Has anyone played with this enough to help me out?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Transcriptionist crediting system

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

It is actually E1959-98 do it isn't quite as close to as old as we are, 
Fil. ;-)

On Monday 10 January 2005 01:12 pm, Beza, Fil wrote:
> I hope that 1959 in "ASTM -1959 Guide for RFPs" does not indicate the
> year the guide was produced?  ;-).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A.
> Forrey
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:26 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Transcriptionist crediting system
>
> RFP - Request for Proposal a procurement term used to solicit Suppliers
> for products and services. This is an ASTM standards found in the vol
> 14.01 of the ASTM Book of Standards usually located in technical
> (sections of) libraries. It was put together by the American Association
> of Transcriptionists and is included with other Electronic Health Record
> Standards that apply to VistA.
>
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > I have just gotten around to looking for this file.  I can't find it.
> >
> > Is it on the VistA Documentation Library web site?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > p.s. what does RFP mean?
> > kt
> >
> > --- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You may want to look at ASTM -1959 Guide for RFPs for Medical
> >> transcription serices as well as other medical transcription
> >> standards.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> >>> Does anyone know how the transcriptionist
> >>
> >> crediting
> >>
> >>> system works?  In the TIU parameters, there are settings for the
> >>> number of characters per line,
> >>
> >> and I
> >>
> >>> am assuming there is functionality for measuring
> >>
> >> how
> >>
> >>> much a transcriptionist types (i.e. the number of lines).  This is
> >>> typically how they get paid.
> >>>
> >>> I think I could write my own system, but would
> >>
> >> like to
> >>
> >>> use the existing one if possible.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Redirecting output to a printer

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

This printer issue has been a recurring theme on the Hardhats mailing list, so 
perhaps someone (hint for a volunteer) can combine Kevin's and Fil's 
explanations into a newbie level document for Cache/Windows and GTM/Linux 
printing.   

Fil is terrific at writing newbie level stuff  ( witness the installation 
instructions on the HardHat's web site) so I hope he will do the Cache part 
of it.  Kevin, I have a bunch of printers I use in a weeks time, some 
parallel ports and some networked and some USB, so I might be a good guinea 
pig for testing your GTM explanation. Fil, I can likewise test yours with 
Cache if you wish. 
 
So far I have managed to avoid printing anything from VistA, so I should be a 
relatively good newbie tester of the instructions.

On Monday 10 January 2005 12:14 pm, Lloyd Milligan wrote:
> I would suggest using a namespaced local variable rather than a global
> variable to save a copy of the file name.  If you use a global variable the
> subscript would need to be process-specific.  Also the file name itself
> should include the process ID number in case two or more users invoke the
> print option at the same time. (I'm assuming VistA users share the same
> $HOME directory.)
>
> Lloyd
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Redirecting output to a printer
>
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > Thanks.  That help.  It now works.
> >
> >
> > Let me add here some info I just figured out.
> > I changed my execute code fields to a simple line that
> > showed what IO was.  Here is a log of output:
> >
> > OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: DEVICE//
> > SORT BY: NAME//
> > START WITH NAME: FIRST//
> > FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  NAME
> > THEN PRINT FIELD: 1  $I
> > THEN PRINT FIELD:
> > Heading (S/C): DEVICE LIST//
> > DEVICE: test  TEST-LINUX-PRINTER  Laughlin_Office
> > KT// PRE-OPEN EXECUTE CODE.
> > IO=$HOME/slave-print-file.dat
> >
> >
> > //KT POST-CLOSE EX CODE.  IO=/dev/pts/1
> >
> > Press RETURN to continue...
> >
> > What this tells me is that the value for $I is loaded
> > into the variable IO.  Then the report is actually
> > sent out.  When the Post-close execute is called, IO
> > is put back to what it was originally.
> >
> > So If I am going to do the ZSYSTEM lpr 
> > command, I am going to have to store it in a ^global
> > var in the pre-execute code (as was suggested in an
> > earlier post).
> >
> > I think I am making progress.  I'll post a summary
> > here when I get it working.
> >
> > Thanks all!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Lloyd Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Your logon DEVICE (console or Telnet, etc.) should
> >> have ASK DEVICE set to
> >> yes.  This is a DEVICE file field, not the same as
> >> ASK DEVICE AT LOGIN.
> >>
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Hardhats Sourceforge"
> >> 
> >> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:19 AM
> >> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Redirecting output to a
> >> printer
> >>
> >> > Hey all, I feel silly asking the question because
> >>
> >> it
> >>
> >> > is so basic.
> >> >
> >> > How do I redirect output to a printer?  On one of
> >>
> >> my
> >>
> >> > practice systems it asks me where I want output
> >>
> >> sent
> >>
> >> > to.  But on my production system, it automatically
> >> > puts reports to the screen.  I thought this had to
> >>
> >> do
> >>
> >> > with "ASK DEVICE AT LOGIN" -- but I changed that
> >> > option to YES, and still it doesn't ask me where I
> >> > want a report sent to.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Kevin
> >> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Transcriptionist crediting system

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

The ASTM guide for RFPs for Medical Transcription Services you will have to 
pay for to see on the ASTM web site, and I am pretty sure that RFP means 
Request for Proposal, which, I think, is basically asking people for bids to 
do a job.


On Sunday 09 January 2005 11:26 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I have just gotten around to looking for this file.  I
> can't find it.  Is it on the VistA Documentation
> Library web site?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
> p.s. what does RFP mean?
> kt
>
> --- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You may want to look at ASTM -1959 Guide for RFPs
> > for Medical
> > transcription serices as well as other medical
> > transcription standards.
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how the transcriptionist
> >
> > crediting
> >
> > > system works?  In the TIU parameters, there are
> > > settings for the number of characters per line,
> >
> > and I
> >
> > > am assuming there is functionality for measuring
> >
> > how
> >
> > > much a transcriptionist types (i.e. the number of
> > > lines).  This is typically how they get paid.
> > >
> > > I think I could write my own system, but would
> >
> > like to
> >
> > > use the existing one if possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging (OsiriX)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

http://homepage.mac.com/rossetantoine/osirix/

Joseph Dal Molin has been pursuing this possibility with them already, and I 
suspect he will bring us up to date when he sees your email.  Apparently they 
do not think the port from the Mac OS will be all that difficult, (see here 
for instance http://developer.apple.com/unix/ ) but it would likely require 
investment from some hospital or other institution that would otherwise have 
to spend a lot of money purchasing a proprietary product, such as Accusoft to 
get VistAImaging going.  Besides the port, it would require investment for 
overcoming the FDA regulatory hurdles.  It is not clear to me, however, that 
those viewing images for diagnostic purposes requires overcoming the FDA 
hurdles, so for that, it is probably only a MAC vs Linux or Windows issue 
that needs to be dealt with.  

On Friday 07 January 2005 10:26 am, Mark Amundson wrote:
> I do not at all understand the issues related to VistA Imaging, but I ran
> across an article where radiologist are using iPOD's to store images.  The
> product is OsiriX and is opensource could this be part of an opensource
> solution for VistA Imaging? 
>
>  See:
>
>
>  http://homepage.mac.com/rossetantoine/osirix/Index2.html
>
>
>
>
>  
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[Hardhats-members] More New GTM

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Now I ran into this, which I assume is the same "old code for other operating 
systems and just recompile and ignore it" problem.  Am I correct?

GTM>D ^XUP

Setting up programmer environment
Access Code:
 . S (%,%1)=$ZGETDVI($I,"TT_ACCPORNAM")
 ^-
At column 14, line 44, source 
module /home/nancy/VADemo/r/_ZIS4.m
%GTM-E-FNOTONSYS, Function or special variable is not supported by this 
operating system

Terminal Type set to: C-VT100

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[Hardhats-members] Trying out the new GTM

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Just in case there are others of you who, like me, don't read directions, when 
you install the new version of GTM, you need to do the following (Bhaskar 
bailed me out - AGAIN):

"Before upgrading an existing global directory (.gld) file, ensure 
that you have a backup copy of the old .gld file. GDE does not provide 
an option to downgrade a global directory to the V4.x format."

So, assuming the $gtm_dist and $gtmgbldir are set correctly, executing 
mumps -run ^GDE to enter GDE, and then typing exit, will upgrade the 
global directory.  Remember to back it up.

So this is what that looked like - before and after.  Note that I have the 
rundown alias  in .bash_profile and .bashrc which is why it only says 
"rundown"

alias rundown="$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \"*\""  

BEFORE:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rundown
%GTM-E-GDINVALID, Unrecognized Global Directory file 
format: /home/nancy/VADemo/g/mumps.gld, expected label: GTCGBDUNX004, found: 
GTCGBDUNX003

AFTER:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ GDE
%GDE-I-LOADGD, Loading Global Directory file
/home/nancy/VADemo/g/mumps.gld
%GDE-I-VERIFY, Verification OK


GDE> exit
%GDE-I-VERIFY, Verification OK

%GDE-I-GDUPDATE, Updating Global Directory file
/home/nancy/VADemo/g/mumps.gld
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rundown
%GTM-I-MUFILRNDWNSUC, File /home/nancy/VADemo/g/mumps.dat successfully rundown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$   

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Re: [Hardhats-members] FYI - [Fwd: Re: CCOW and OpenCMA]

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

If this sepcification is proprietary, who owns it and what/how do you have to 
pay for it?

On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:11 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> Thought the folks on this list would be interested in this development.
>
> Joseph
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: CCOW and OpenCMA
> Resent-Date: 4 Jan 2005 19:18:40 -
> Resent-From: openhealth-list@minoru-development.com
> Resent-CC: recipient list not shown: ;
> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:18:34 -0700
> From: David Forslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: David Forslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: OpenHealth List 
>
> I've just opened a new project on sourceforge called OpenCMA, for an
> open source implementation of the Context Management Architecture of HL7
> (commonly known as CCOW).  It will be based on that specification as
> well as a couple of other efforts in the area of context-aware systems
> (such as the Java Context-Aware Framework from pervasive.dk).  I will
> provide interfaces for CORBA and for the Web consistent with the HL7
> specifications (version 1.5, if possible).  The implementations will be
> in Java, initially, although other languages are encouraged.  Anyone who
> would like to contribute to this effort please let me know so I can add
> you to the developer list.   We will be sure to make it compatible with
> OpenEMed, but should be useable in many other areas, including those
> beyond healthcare.  The goal is to have a common implementation with
> multiple interfaces and transport technologies.  I hope to have the IDL
> consistent with the spec on the site this week.  Code should follow
> shortly thereafter.  The tricky part for me is to have the
> implementation not violate the HL7 requirement that the specification
> itself is not free.   I think this should be easy, at first, because
> they've not published a CORBA IDL specfication for CCOW.
>
> Dave Forslund
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search failure.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

So is this a NOIS issue RE DPTLK?  Should we be be fixing this in WV?

On Tuesday 04 January 2005 10:23 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I can understand why the trailing period is trimmed
> off.
>
> Regarding Steve's comment below about not seeing a
> problem with being unable to find a patient later
> because of an added period, does he really expect all
> the users of the system to remember the input
> transform rules for a given field?  I find that to be
> user-unfriendly.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
> --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > I don't know all the reasons for how punctuation in
> > names is managed to help
> > standardize the name parts, but an effort was made
> > to come closer to the HL7
> > standard.
> >
> > Steve, note that the problem is that the lookup
> > routine (DPTLK, not
> > FileMan's DIC) is failing to perform the input
> > transform prior to a lookup.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Behalf Of Thurman
> > Pedigo
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:30 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search
> > failure.
> >
> > I have an older version of the patient file that
> > allows lower case and "."
> > (can't be sure someone local didn't make that
> > change). I wonder if there
> > isn't some good reason for that change. For
> > instance, the postal service
> > seems to like upper case letters for scanners and
> > routing - I think they
> > even give a price break. Or is it indexing,
> > efficient lookups, or
> > duplications that drive the strategy. Wonder if the
> > magnitude of the VA
> > database has any influence. Not hard to figure that
> > with an average of 20
> > characters per name, adding one character increases
> > database five percent.
> >
> > Anyone know the rational behind why the patient file
> > changed?
> >
> > thurman
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [mailto:hardhats-
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >
> > steven mcphelan
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:39 PM
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search
> >
> > failure.
> >
> > > It looks to me that the input transform is doing
> >
> > what it is programmed to
> >
> > > do, even though one may not agree with it.  It was
> >
> > changed that way to
> >
> > > standardized the name format.  Kevin is coming
> >
> > back later trying to look
> >
> > > up
> > > the name with a trailing period.  The input
> >
> > transform strips off those
> >
> > > punctuation characters before filing the name.  So
> >
> > a full name with a
> >
> > > trailing period will not and should not be found
> >
> > by Fileman.  As Kevin has
> >
> > > shown, the full name without the trailing
> >
> > punctuation character is found.
> >
> > > So I do not see a problem here.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search
> >
> > failure.
> >
> > > > OK.  Sounds good.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > You're right!  The way it works on the Patient
> >
> > file
> >
> > > > > isn't the way it should
> > > > > be!  It works correctly on the New Person
> >
> > file.
> >
> > > > > I'll submit a NOIS for that
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > > > > Toppenberg
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:19 PM
> > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > But this sets up a situation where the process
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > > converting from external to internal form
> >
> > causes the
> >
> > > > > name to get "lost".  I.e. I put a name into
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > > database, then search for that same name and
> >
> > find it
> >
> > > > > has "disappeared."
> > > > >
> > > > > By looking at that transform you mention, I
> >
> > see that
> >
> > > > > I
> > > > > can use: set
> >
> > INTNAME=$$FORMAT^DPTNAME(.PATNAME,3,30)
> >
> > > > > and then search for INTNAME -- but this is far
> >
> > from
> >
> > > > > user friendly.  Why doesn't the search system
> >
> > do
> >
> > > > > this
> > > > > external-to-internal conversion automatically
> >
> > before
> >
> > > > > searching?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Cameron Schlehuber
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Note as the Description (on the .01 field in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > > New
> > > > >
> > > > > > Person file) states,
> > > > > > the "value must be 3

Fwd: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty creating a cross reference (xref) ... incomplete ^DOPT ??

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

 I sent this for Chris as he was having trouble posting to Sourceforge.

Kevin;

Just accept the 1 default for the CROSS-REFERENCE NUMBER:.  It

is specific  to this field and this file and this cross-reference.  It is not 
a number space issue.

 Best wishes;   Chris
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hardhats Sourceforge" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:03 PM
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty creating a cross reference (xref)

...

> incomplete ^DOPT ??
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am having difficulty creating a cross reference on a
> > field I have added to file 2 (PATIENT file).  We were
> > talking about this earlier, but I can't find the
> > earlier thread to link this post to.
> >
> > My custom field is 22700 (in my numberspace).
> > Below is a screen log of it not working, then more
> > comments below:
> >
> > ---
> > What type of cross-reference (Traditional or New)?
> > Traditional//   TRADITIONAL
> >
> > MODIFY WHAT FILE: PATIENT//
> > Select FIELD: 22700  MEDIC ACCOUNT NUMBER
> >
> > NO CURRENT CROSS-REFERENCE
> > WANT TO CREATE A NEW CROSS-REFERENCE FOR THIS FIELD?
> > No// y  (Yes)
> > CROSS-REFERENCE NUMBER: 1// 22700??
> >
> > ---
> > I have traced through the code, and found where the
> > problem comes from.  In DICE.m, a search is done to
> > validate my input.  Here is DIC(*) and X:
> >
> > DIC="^DOPT(""DICR"","
> > DIC(0)="EQA"
> > DIC("B")=1
> > DIC("S")="I 1"
> > X=22700
> >
> > after ^DIC is called, Y=-1
> >
> > So I tried to find out more about ^DOPT(*).  I can't
> > find a reference in the FILE file.  Furthermore, when
> > I do a dump of ^DOPT, I can't find any node for
> > "DICR".  I.e. ^DOPT("DICR",*) is completely empty.
> >
> > I'm sure this is not something I accidentally deleted
> > because I was unaware of the file until today.
> >
> > So what is supposed to be in ^DOPT("DICR", that would
> > allow me to create my cross-reference?  According to
> > the code, it looks for Y=6 (resulting in a GOTO
> > 6^DICE0) or Y=7 (resulting in a GOTO ^DICE7)
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Brief patient registration -- input template?? screenman??

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Friday I went quickly through the tutorial for Screenman.  There is a 
Screencam version that makes it even faster to review.  I suggest you take a 
look at that.  I think it would be perfect for what you want, but it would be 
outside of CPRSChart.

On Sunday 02 January 2005 11:16 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Thanks for your reply
>
> This idea would probably work, but I fear that it
> would not be flexible enough to handle messages that
> might come back from file man, such as SOUNDEX
> matches... "Do you still want to add the patient?"
>
> I would like some sort of minimal interface for users.
>
> Thanks again
> Kevin
>
> --- Adrian Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 01:07, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > Quick question about patient registration.  I know
> > > that there is a menu option that walks one through
> >
> > a
> >
> > > patient registration process.  However, because we
> > > will not be using VistA for our billing side, I
> >
> > don't
> >
> > > plan on keeping demographics up to date in VistA.
> > > Thus all I want to input for registering a patient
> >
> > is:
> > > Name, DOB, SEX, SSN and possible 1-2 other fields.
> > >
> > > We are in the process of bringing up a billing
> > > software package, and we are going to have to
> > > re-register all our patients in the new system
> >
> > Might theexpectprogram be useful for this?
> >
> > I can imagine a shim or shell that took instructions
> > from the new system
> > and passed them to the user, while passing some of
> > the entered data to
> > both systmes, and some to only one of them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components Add Students and Charity

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

You are very nice, but it won't work.  I am not likely to be able to help this 
group.   Besides, you will notice that it is not me that usually figures 
things out.  It is me that pesters all of you until some else figures it out.

The inquisitive part may be right, though.  I found out part of the reason why 
we are getting all of these requests.  There is apparently a group of 
students who have been tasked with getting VistA going with Java for a 
charity hospital in India. I am not sure if they are supposed to be working 
independently, or if they can work as a group, or why Java, or what all of 
the ins and outs of this are yet,  I do know that if you think you have seen 
a lot of activity on the Hardhats list, you should have seen my email before 
that!  In any case, I think this sounds like a very worthwhile project on 
several levels and I hope that those of you who really do know something 
about this can help these folks out. If we put our answers on the Hardhats 
mailing list, which I have asked them all to sign up for, I think they will 
all benefit.   I hope to find out more soon about the details of their 
project, so stay tuned.  

On Tuesday 28 December 2004 01:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> Don't be so sure!!!
> Many of us remember when Nancy first logged on. Tireless, courage,
> inquisitive, intellect, and persistent are words that come to mind.../t ;-0
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Anthracite
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:18 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> >
> > No, Nancy hasn't done it and I strongly doubt Nancy will have the
> > foggiest idea how to help if she did try it.  Remember, Nancy was the one
> > who asked what CCOW is. ;-)
> >
> > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 03:29 am, David Sommers wrote:
> > > I hope to provide help however, I haven't implemented HealtheVet myself
> > > so I don't have any silver bullets for you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sure someone else on the list (*cough Nancy cough*) has done it and
> > > might have a few insights.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > /David.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > krishna meera
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:44 AM
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hello david,
> > > I installed the CPRS 24.27th version.After .I added the
> > > patients.provider,ward,clinic etc using the commands.But in the
> > > coversheet for each item do we need to add each options through
> > > commands?.
> > >
> > > Another one is how we will integrate this CPRS in HealtheVet desktop
> > > components using CCOW.I think CCOW is calling at the time of clicking
> > > on the view chart option from  HealtheVet near to the edit task
> > > button..right? Is there any document saying the proper implementation
> > > of it?
> > >
> > > Hope i will get your help
> > > krishna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "David Sommers"
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:42:28 -0500
> > >
> > > > http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/ccow_sigvi.htm
> > > >
> > > > It's a HL7 standard for maintaining patient and user context on the
> > > > clinician's desktop.
> > > >
> > > > Basically if you have CPRS open and pick John Doe. Then fire up
> > > > iMedConsent(tm), our software will have John Doe already up. No
> > > > confusion among names, SSNs, DOBs, etc. The key is uniform patient
> > > > selection and context.
> > > >
> > > > If you change the patient in CPRS, iMedConsent(tm) is notified of the
> > > > patient change and automatically updates. If you have a document up
> > > > in
> > > >
> > > > our system (created for John Doe) and then change patients, our
> > > > system
> > > >
> > > > will challenge CCOW. With a challenge, a user can either accept t

Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

No, Nancy hasn't done it and I strongly doubt Nancy will have the foggiest 
idea how to help if she did try it.  Remember, Nancy was the one who asked 
what CCOW is. ;-)



On Tuesday 28 December 2004 03:29 am, David Sommers wrote:
> I hope to provide help however, I haven't implemented HealtheVet myself
> so I don't have any silver bullets for you.
>
>
>
> I'm sure someone else on the list (*cough Nancy cough*) has done it and
> might have a few insights.
>
>
>
> /David.
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> krishna meera
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:44 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
>
>
>
> hello david,
> I installed the CPRS 24.27th version.After .I added the
> patients.provider,ward,clinic etc using the commands.But in the
> coversheet for each item do we need to add each options through
> commands?.
>
> Another one is how we will integrate this CPRS in HealtheVet desktop
> components using CCOW.I think CCOW is calling at the time of clicking on
> the view chart option from  HealtheVet near to the edit task
> button..right? Is there any document saying the proper implementation of
> it?
>
> Hope i will get your help
> krishna
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Sommers"
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:42:28 -0500
>
> > http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/ccow_sigvi.htm
> >
> > It's a HL7 standard for maintaining patient and user context on the
> > clinician's desktop.
> >
> > Basically if you have CPRS open and pick John Doe. Then fire up
> > iMedConsent(tm), our software will have John Doe already up. No
> > confusion among names, SSNs, DOBs, etc. The key is uniform patient
> > selection and context.
> >
> > If you change the patient in CPRS, iMedConsent(tm) is notified of the
> > patient change and automatically updates. If you have a document up in
> >
> > our system (created for John Doe) and then change patients, our system
> >
> > will challenge CCOW. With a challenge, a user can either accept the
> > patient change (destroy the document since it was for John and not
>
> Jane)
>
> > OR disregard the change and stay on John (we would leave the document
> > up).
> >
> > The applications can now communicate with other, on the local system,
> > about the patient and user. The VA isn't currently using SSO
>
> technology
>
> > but it is part of the Sentillion solution and it's going to be used
> > someday. Using Sentillion and CCOW, User context can also be shared on
> >
> > the local system to enable SSO. [Auto-Login is SSO but many sites
>
> don't
>
> > (or can't) use it, this will supplement it].
> >
> > I put it in the context of how our company uses it - I'm sure there
>
> are
>
> > other practical uses in other products but I'm not aware of any beyond
> >
> > the basics for linking patients.
> >
> > /David.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>
> Nancy
>
> > E. Anthracite
> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:18 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> >
> > Could you please give those of us who have no idea about CCOW what it
>
> is
>
> > and
> > why one wants/needs it?
> >
> > On Sunday 26 December 2004 11:06 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> > > Now this is the stuff that I do know... :)
> > >
> > > Sentillion will give you a license for software integration and
> > > development against any of their CCOW installations. The VA has a
> > > license for Sentillion CCOW on the enterprise, so I (the vendor)
>
> don't
>
> > > have to pay to use CCOW (outside a nominal one-time fee).
> > >
> > > But as a hospital, you'd have to license CCOW for your site which
> > > consists of not only client-side software but hardware running the
> >
> > "CCOW
> >
> > > Vaults". These Vaults maintain CCOW Connection information and state
> > >
> > > across all your clients (and that's where your client-side software
> > > connects to).
>

Re: [Hardhats-members] Update to documentation website

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

The provider Setup and Keys needs to be finished and needs critique and 
improvement.  

Also, can someone please provide some information for some of the typical 
setup settings for different types of users like  Ward Clerks, Nurses, Staff 
physicians, Registration Clerks, Admitting Clerks, Pharmacists, Nurses Aids, 
etc.?  We could sure use that.  Also, the best way to provide that 
functionality for quick setup of new users.  I can't see that that would be 
confidential information and it would sure help newbies and others.

On Monday 27 December 2004 07:01 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Nancy has sent me some more helpful documentation.  I
> have posted it on my website, here:
>
> www.geocities.com/kdtop3
>
> on the left hand side, look for the links to:
>
> Provider Setup & Keys
> Adding Security Keys
> Key Descriptions
>
> I haven't gone through it yet, but it looks helpful
>
> Thanks Nancy!
>
> Kevin
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Could you please give those of us who have no idea about CCOW what it is and 
why one wants/needs it?

On Sunday 26 December 2004 11:06 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> Now this is the stuff that I do know... :)
>
> Sentillion will give you a license for software integration and
> development against any of their CCOW installations.  The VA has a
> license for Sentillion CCOW on the enterprise, so I (the vendor) don't
> have to pay to use CCOW (outside a nominal one-time fee).
>
> But as a hospital, you'd have to license CCOW for your site which
> consists of not only client-side software but hardware running the "CCOW
> Vaults".  These Vaults maintain CCOW Connection information and state
> across all your clients (and that's where your client-side software
> connects to).
>
> Now I don't know the costs for a hospital, but for someone integrating
> with an existing Sentillion site - it's not too bad at all.
>
> Now CCOW is not required for CPRS and VistA Imaging (yet).  If you don't
> have the CCOW components installed, the software will bypass the CCOW
> check and continue working in "legacy".  If a system (such as
> HealtheVet) requires CCOW access, we could work three solutions.
>
> 1) Remove CCOW and use another means of transferring the patient link.
> 2) Implement a different CCOW product (that's made from scratch or Open
> Source).
> 3) Talk to Sentillion.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> /David.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> E. Anthracite
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:21 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
>
> In the past, Sentillion would send you a developers trial copy of the
> software.  You have to fill out a form as I recall, then I think they
> call
> you and mail it to you if you pass muster.  I got a copy once to use
> with
> VistAImaging, and then never got the Accusoft software so I haven't used
> it
> (yet?).  It took quite a while to get it as I recall - I think something
> like
> 4-6 weeks,but I could be wrong about the that.
>
> On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:06 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > The CCOW components for VistA are all based on Sentillion work and
>
> have the
>
> > following notice at the beginning of all the documentation (which
>
> means
>
> > it's not available through FOIA):
> >
> > Notice to Government Users
> > The Sentillion product suite is commercial computer software that
>
> includes
>
> > commercial documentation, manuals, and related technical data. The
> > development of this commercial software was privately funded, with no
> > government funding, therefore, the only rights that the Government has
>
> to
>
> > this commercial computer software are those specified in the
>
> applicable
>
> > Government license agreement. The Software and documentation provided
> > therewith are provided with RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication, or
> > disclosure by the United States Government is subject to the
>
> restrictions
>
> > as set forth in Federal Acquisition Regulation 12.212 for civilian
>
> agencies
>
> > and Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 227.7202 for military
>
> agencies.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>
> Joseph
>
> > Dal Molin
> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:47 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> >
> > I think you can point Google to any website and search for things like
> > that ZIP file
> >
> > J.
> >
> > krishna meera wrote:
> > > Is any one know from which folder, i will get the file called
> > > OSLC_IG.ZIP from the ftp site of vista.I think it contains the
> > > instructions for installing ccow components
> > >
> > > krishna
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:50:46 +
> > >
> > >  > Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's email
>
> that
>
> > >  > immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to this
>
> site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members
>
> > >  >

Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

In the past, Sentillion would send you a developers trial copy of the 
software.  You have to fill out a form as I recall, then I think they call 
you and mail it to you if you pass muster.  I got a copy once to use with 
VistAImaging, and then never got the Accusoft software so I haven't used it 
(yet?).  It took quite a while to get it as I recall - I think something like 
4-6 weeks,but I could be wrong about the that.

On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:06 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> The CCOW components for VistA are all based on Sentillion work and have the
> following notice at the beginning of all the documentation (which means
> it's not available through FOIA):
>
> Notice to Government Users
> The Sentillion product suite is commercial computer software that includes
> commercial documentation, manuals, and related technical data. The
> development of this commercial software was privately funded, with no
> government funding, therefore, the only rights that the Government has to
> this commercial computer software are those specified in the applicable
> Government license agreement. The Software and documentation provided
> therewith are provided with RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication, or
> disclosure by the United States Government is subject to the restrictions
> as set forth in Federal Acquisition Regulation 12.212 for civilian agencies
> and Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 227.7202 for military agencies.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph
> Dal Molin
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:47 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
>
> I think you can point Google to any website and search for things like
> that ZIP file
>
> J.
>
> krishna meera wrote:
> > Is any one know from which folder, i will get the file called
> > OSLC_IG.ZIP from the ftp site of vista.I think it contains the
> > instructions for installing ccow components
> >
> > krishna
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:50:46 +
> >
> >  > Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's email that
> >  > immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to this
>
> site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members
>
> >  > There is a search function here as well, so you will often be able to
> >
> > find
> >
> >  > answers to questions that have to do with CPRS, etc., that way.
> >  > Unfortunately, there is not much about HealteVet Desktop as that is a
> >  > relatively new subject. I understand that HealtheVet desktop has
> >
> > relatively
> >
> >  > limited functionality at this time and there will not be a full
> >  > fledged replacement for CPRS done in Java by the VA until the middle
> >  > of next
> >
> > year at
> >
> >  > the best, so you might consider using CPRS for now if you are
> >
> > planning to try
> >
> >  > to do anything with it any time soon. I noted there are something in
>
> the
>
> >  > order of 1600 RPC Broker calls. There is a lot of work to be done yet.
> >  >
> >  > Also, to find out about adding a physician and giving him the proper
> >
> > keys and
> >
> >  > permissions, look at http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/ and the
> >
> > Post-Install
> >
> >  > notes section. I will send you another document that is only partially
> >  > complete and I will also send Kevin to put on his site that includes
> >  > my initial explorations of the Clinical Coordinators job, person class
> >  > and provider class, or something like that. I think giving yourself
> >  > the
> >
> > ORES key
> >
> >  > and assigning provider status in file 200 will help.
> >  >
> >  > On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:33 am, rev athy wrote:
> >  > > Iam trying to install the Healthevet desktop framework in vista,
> >  > > using the cache database,vistalink also installed
> >  > > At the time of adding a patient where the datas are saving ? in
> >  > > Austin or in the localhost M'server?
> >  > >
> >  > > After adding the patient also the healthevet desktop shows as 'no
> >  > > patient found" is it because of not admitting the patient ? i tried
>

Fwd: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maximum number of users

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Since I seemed to have managed to send this message yesterday, despite sending 
it about 30 minutes ago, I thought I would try that again. ;-)

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maximum number of users
Date: Saturday 25 December 2004 05:34 pm
From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net

I would just like to point out to newbies, like me, the reason to make the
 job limit not equal to the maximum sign on allowed is to give yourself a job
 to use to figure out what the problem is - a little pearl Rick let me know
 about that experienced people, like Susaanti, already know!

Now that he may have gotten himself in the fix where the jobs are all used
 up, how does he get out of it if he has a licensed copy of Cache that is
 limited to a certain number of jobs?  Is there a way  to safely terminate
 jobs without having a job available to you, or will he have to briefly alter
 the code that limits the jobs to get around it, or something along those
 lines?

On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:19 pm, Marianne Susaanti Follingstad wrote:
> Take a look at the Kernel System Parameters file and at the particular
> VOLUME you are on.  You likely need to up the number for the Max Signon
> Allowed field. You may also need to coordinate this with the Taskman file
> entry for the box volume pair in order to make sure the Taskman job limit
> is high enough (not greater than the Max Signon Allowed, but close to it).
>
> Good luck and happy holidays.
>
> Marianne Follingstad
> 301 251 0139
>
> Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> > This is a new problem for me. The response I get to VistA login is below.
> > At first I thought it may be an issue with Cache. However, I set the
> > system up with three iterations of VistA and one FM. One VistA version,
> > and the FM work just fine. Two newest versions of VistA first gave me
> > trouble with devices, then this trouble crops up. Is this a UCI issue?
> > This is a licensed Cache.
> >
> > Will appreciate advice. ...tx/t
> >
> > 
> > Screen capture follows:
> >
> > Cache for Windows NT (Intel/P4) 5.0.4 (Build 829U) Fri Oct 10 2003
> > 15:00:30 EDT
> > Node W2K3 Port: VISTASVR/3136
> >
> > Username: VISTAB
> > Password:
> > VISTB>d ^ZU
> >
> > Volume set: VISTB:CACHEMAW  UCI: VISTB  Device: |TNT|vistasvr:3136|4432
> > (vistasvr/3136)
> >
> > Device: |TNT|vistasvr:3136|4432
> >
> > Maximum number of users already signed on to this processor.
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Maximum number of users

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I would just like to point out to newbies, like me, the reason to make the job 
limit not equal to the maximum sign on allowed is to give yourself a job to 
use to figure out what the problem is - a little pearl Rick let me know about 
that experienced people, like Susaanti, already know!

Now that he may have gotten himself in the fix where the jobs are all used up, 
how does he get out of it if he has a licensed copy of Cache that is limited 
to a certain number of jobs?  Is there a way  to safely terminate jobs 
without having a job available to you, or will he have to briefly alter the 
code that limits the jobs to get around it, or something along those lines?

On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:19 pm, Marianne Susaanti Follingstad wrote:
> Take a look at the Kernel System Parameters file and at the particular
> VOLUME you are on.  You likely need to up the number for the Max Signon
> Allowed field. You may also need to coordinate this with the Taskman file
> entry for the box volume pair in order to make sure the Taskman job limit
> is high enough (not greater than the Max Signon Allowed, but close to it).
>
> Good luck and happy holidays.
>
> Marianne Follingstad
> 301 251 0139
>
> Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> > This is a new problem for me. The response I get to VistA login is below.
> > At first I thought it may be an issue with Cache. However, I set the
> > system up with three iterations of VistA and one FM. One VistA version,
> > and the FM work just fine. Two newest versions of VistA first gave me
> > trouble with devices, then this trouble crops up. Is this a UCI issue?
> > This is a licensed Cache.
> >
> > Will appreciate advice. ...tx/t
> >
> > 
> > Screen capture follows:
> >
> > Cache for Windows NT (Intel/P4) 5.0.4 (Build 829U) Fri Oct 10 2003
> > 15:00:30 EDT
> > Node W2K3 Port: VISTASVR/3136
> >
> > Username: VISTAB
> > Password:
> > VISTB>d ^ZU
> >
> > Volume set: VISTB:CACHEMAW  UCI: VISTB  Device: |TNT|vistasvr:3136|4432
> > (vistasvr/3136)
> >
> > Device: |TNT|vistasvr:3136|4432
> >
> > Maximum number of users already signed on to this processor.
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's email that 
immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to this 
site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members  
There is a search function here as well, so you will often be able to find 
answers to questions that have to do with CPRS, etc., that way.  
Unfortunately, there is not much about HealteVet Desktop as that is a 
relatively new subject.  I understand that HealtheVet desktop has relatively 
limited functionality at this time and there will not be a full fledged 
replacement for CPRS done in Java by the VA until the middle of next year at 
the best, so you might consider using CPRS for now if you are planning to try 
to do anything with it any time soon.  I noted there are something in the 
order of 1600 RPC Broker calls.  There is a lot of work to be done yet.

Also, to find out about adding a physician and giving him the proper keys and 
permissions, look at http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/  and the Post-Install 
notes section. I will send you another document that is only partially 
complete and I will also send Kevin to put on his site that includes my 
initial explorations of the Clinical Coordinators job, person class and 
provider class, or something like that.  I think giving yourself the ORES key 
and assigning provider status in file 200 will help.
 

On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:33 am, rev athy wrote:
>  Iam trying to install the Healthevet desktop framework in vista,
>  using the cache database,vistalink also installed
>  At the time of adding a patient where the datas are saving ? in
>  Austin or in the localhost M'server?
>
>  After adding the patient also the healthevet desktop shows as 'no
>  patient found" is it because of not admitting the patient ? i tried
>  that also but at the end of the admitting process it asks for a"
>  PRIMARY PHYSICIAN:" I added a provider to it but its not taking, it says
> "select active providers only"
>  which command gives us the active providers ?
>
>  at the time of adding a patient also it shows the error like "Could
>  not connect to MPI or Timed Out".
>
>  what we have to do to install the CCOW components in HealtheVet Desktop
> framework? Is there any documentation? do i need any other configuration to
> get the chart view in healthevet desktop components
>
>  can anyone help me
>
> revathy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:08:39 -0500
>
> > Believe me, you do not want to connect to Austin.  That is the US
> > Department of Veteran's Affairs Master Patient Index.   Eventually, you
> > may want your own MPI.   For now, let it time out, and I am sure someone
> > will post a solution to that problem.  At one time, I found someplace
> > where in the code the amount of time it was supposed to wait was entered
> > and I wondered if just making that very short would be sufficient
> > particularly as it would allow them to put in their own MPI sometime in
> > the future.  Perhaps someone knows if this would suffice.
> >
> > On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, rev athy wrote:
> > > kevin,
> > > when iam trying to connect to the clinicians dashboard i will be
> > > getting the following result.. ""..Attempting to connect to the
> > > Master Patient Index in Austin... If no SSN or inexact DOB or common
> > > name, this request may take some time, please be patient...
> > >
> > >  Could not connect to MPI or Timed Out, assigning local ICN (if not
> > > already assig ned).""
> > >
> > > How can i make a connection with Austin
> > >
> > > revathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:08:21 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > > > Nancy,
> > > >
> > > > When you see the phrase "allows any language to use
> > > > Broker", this usually means that they have developed a
> > > > COM object.  Most languages have methods to interface
> > > > with a COM object.  If you are using visual basic, and
> > > > the COM object has been registered, then the object is
> > > > probably already available in VB.
> > > 

Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Believe me, you do not want to connect to Austin.  That is the US Department 
of Veteran's Affairs Master Patient Index.   Eventually, you may want your 
own MPI.   For now, let it time out, and I am sure someone will post a 
solution to that problem.  At one time, I found someplace where in the code 
the amount of time it was supposed to wait was entered and I wondered if just 
making that very short would be sufficient particularly as it would allow 
them to put in their own MPI sometime in the future.  Perhaps someone knows 
if this would suffice.


On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, rev athy wrote:
> kevin,
> when iam trying to connect to the clinicians dashboard i will be getting
> the following result.. ""..Attempting to connect to the Master Patient
> Index in Austin... If no SSN or inexact DOB or common name, this request
> may take some time, please be patient...
>
>  Could not connect to MPI or Timed Out, assigning local ICN (if not already
> assig ned).""
>
> How can i make a connection with Austin
>
> revathy
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:08:21 -0800 (PST)
>
> > Nancy,
> >
> > When you see the phrase "allows any language to use
> > Broker", this usually means that they have developed a
> > COM object.  Most languages have methods to interface
> > with a COM object.  If you are using visual basic, and
> > the COM object has been registered, then the object is
> > probably already available in VB.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I noted this version of documentation for the Broker
> > > Development Kit that is a bit newer than what is on www.Hardhats.org
> > > and it mentions an API in there that "allows any language to use
> > > Broker".  I don't know enough about this to know if this documentation
> > > will help, or even if it is significantly different from the 1997
> > > documentation, but maybe it will help.  There is more documentation in
> > > that same directory that might help
> > > as well.
> >
> > http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broker_(R
> >PC)/xwb1_1p26dg.pdf
> >
> > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 08:21 am, rev athy
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > hello,
> > > > I installed cache database and now iam trying to
> > >
> > > integrate the
> > >
> > > > caremanagement and cprs modules to HealtheVet
> > >
> > > desktop framework.I started
> > >
> > > > the framework but not getting any patients to
> > >
> > > select from the database . I
> > >
> > > > already added patients into the database now also
> > >
> > > it shows like "no patiens
> > >
> > > > to select" then i can't be able to see the
> > >
> > > functionalities of that
> > >
> > > > framework. But i added the perspectives using
> > >
> > > ORRCMM but patients are not
> > >
> > > > getting , Now i will be in the middle way no idea
> > >
> > > what to do next with
> > >
> > > > it.can any one please help me to get out of this
> > >
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > ammassurya
> > >
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[Hardhats-members] BAP132.BAS VB header files for Broker Development

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Does anyone know where I can find this file?
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I noted this version of documentation for the Broker Development Kit that is a 
bit newer than what is on www.Hardhats.org and it mentions an API in there 
that "allows any language to use Broker".  I don't know enough about this to 
know if this documentation will help, or even if it is significantly 
different from the 1997 documentation, but maybe it will help.  There is more 
documentation in that same directory that might help as well.

http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broker_(RPC)/xwb1_1p26dg.pdf


On Saturday 25 December 2004 08:21 am, rev athy wrote:
> hello,
> I installed cache database and now iam trying to integrate the
> caremanagement and cprs modules to HealtheVet desktop framework.I started
> the framework but not getting any patients to select from the database . I
> already added patients into the database now also it shows like "no patiens
> to select" then i can't be able to see the functionalities of that
> framework. But i added the perspectives using ORRCMM but patients are not
> getting , Now i will be in the middle way no idea what to do next with
> it.can any one please help me to get out of this problem.
>
> Thank you
> ammassurya

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Please test for me

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Thanks to all of you who have tested it for me.  It seems the person who was 
having trouble has been successful in getting in, so at the moment, I no 
longer need testing.  :-)

On Saturday 25 December 2004 09:23 am, redhuan daniel oon wrote:
> Hi Nancy,
>  A login dialog does pop up. I m using IE.
>
> red1
>
> --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Does a request for a user and password pop up when
> > you connect to this link? I
> > would like to know with IE, Mozilla, Firefox, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > http://69.138.210.149:/NancysVistAServer
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Re: [Hardhats-members] More than one way

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I liked Jim's explanation much better!

On Friday 24 December 2004 10:15 pm, Greg Kreis wrote:
> http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-mor1.htm
>
> James Gray wrote:
> > I think I have a clue.  Some of you may have heard the term "Mule
> > Skinner" which did not mean someone who removed the skin of mules.  It
> > meant a person who handled and worked with mules.  I believe the term
> > in question came from an archaic meaning of the verb "to skin" which
> > meant to handle.  The expression even makes some sense then.
> > Jim Gray
> >
> >>> There's more than one way to skin a cat!  [Come to think of it, what a
> >>> horrible concept.  I wonder where it came from...]
> >>>
> >>> -- Bhaskar
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Not a valid ACCESS CODE/VERIFY CODE pair.

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Your search has you barking up the wrong tree. Look here at steps 53, 58, 59.  
You probably just need to make yourself a new access code. 

 http://www.hardhats.org/projects/VistA_Install/Vista_Install.html

D ^%CD
Namespace:  VistA or whatever you are using

D P^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES

INPUT TO WHAT FILE: REMOTE PROCEDURE// 200  NEW PERSON
  (1154 entries)
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Access CODE  Want to edit ACCESS CODE (Y/N)
THEN EDIT FIELD: Verify
 1   VERIFY CODE  Want to edit VERIFY CODE (Y/N)
 2   VERIFY CODE never expires
CHOOSE 1-2: 1  Want to edit VERIFY CODE (Y/N)
THEN EDIT FIELD:
Select NEW PERSON NAME:
Want to edit ACCESS CODE (Y/N): Y
Enter a new ACCESS CODE : **
 etc.


On Friday 24 December 2004 08:19 pm, David Reister wrote:
> Hardhats
>
> On Dec. 20, I sent the following message.
> I am installing VistA on a Windows PC using Cache.
>
> I am following the steps in "VistA Install with Cache 5 in Windows",
> Chapter 1.
>
> At step 91,when I entered "D ^ZU" the Cache Terminal crashed.  I
> briefly glimpsed the word "trouble" on the Terminal window before it
> disappeared.
>
> I got several responses on this list and contacted Brian Fives (an
> engineer at Intersystems).
>
> Everyone, agreed that the problem was the "Halt instruction in ZU.INT".
>
> I tried the suggestion of Thurman Pedigo and changed the "<3" to
> "<1", but the Terminal still stopped.
>
> When I followed the suggestion of Nancy Anthracite, I got beyond that
> problem to my next issue: Access codes and Verify codes.
>
> I have spent several hours trying to choose a Verify code that is
> compatible with my access code.
>
> My access code: dbr1942 has more than 6 characters and numbers and
> characters.
>
> I did a Google search: Results 1 - 10 of about 118 for vista "access
> code" "verify code".
>
> I have tried dbr1942! and cache5.vista as Verify codes.
>
> What is the code that does the validation and produces the "Not a
> valid ACCESS CODE/VERIFY CODE pair." message?
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> I think that the problems in steps 38 and 39 have both been fixed in
> the current version of CACHE.DAT for VISTA.
>
> David
>
> Background
>
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:59:46 -0600
> From: "Thurman Pedigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] D ^ZU
>
> Think Nancy supplied this reply...
>
> That appears to come from
>
> ;The next line keeps sign-on users from taking the last slot ;It can be
> commented out if not needed.
> JOBCHK I $$AVJ^%ZOSV()<3 W $C(7),!!,"** TROUBLE ** - ** CALL IRM NOW!
> **" G HALT
>
> I solved the problem by reducing <3 to <1. Comment out probably also
> workst
>
>
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:12:55 -0500
> From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>
> We were trying to work this out the other day.  I think the resolution was
> instead of doing step 38 the way it is now,  comment out this line by
> putting a semicolon  in front of it.  Try that to see if it works and let
> us know, please.
>
> JOBCHK I $$AVJ^%ZOSV()<3 W $C(7),!!,"** TROUBLE ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! **" G
> ALT
> [ search on "IRM"  ]
>
>
> Google Search.  Results 1 - 10 of about 118 for vista "access code"
> "verify code".
>
> 1.   http://www.hardhats.org/cs/broker/docs/User_Manual/glossary.html#A
> Access Code.
> A code that, along with the verify code, allows the computer to
> identify you as a user authorized to gain access to the computer.
> Your code is greater than six and less than twenty characters long;
> can be numeric, alphabetic, or a combination of both; and is usually
> assigned by a site manager or application coordinator. It is used by
> the Kernel's Sign-on/Security system to identify the user (see Verify
> Code).
>
> VERIFY CODE
> The Kernel's Sign-on/Security system uses the verify code to validate
> the user's identity. This is an additional security precaution used
> in conjunction with the Access Code. Like the Access Code, it is also
> 6 to 20 characters in length. If entered incorrectly, it does not
> allow the user to access the computer. To protect the user, both
> codes are invisible on the terminal screen.
>
> 2.   http://www.linuxmednews.com/linuxmednews/1018974735/addPostingForm
> [Fam-Med] VistA Lite and Open VistA
> Nancy Anthracite  nanthracite at msn.com
> user name: demo password: demo Access
> Code: VISITOR1 Verify Code: C

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS GUI Source Code

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

ftp.va.gov/vista/ then Software, Packages, Order Entry-Results Reporting - OR, 
Programs Usually a direct link will not work but you can try the one below

ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/Packages/Order Entry-Results Reporting - 
OR/Programs/


On Friday 24 December 2004 02:45 pm, Kannan V wrote:
> Hello:
>
>   Can anyone pls tell me from where I can download the source code of CPRS
> GUI ?
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> -- Kannan.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Please test for me

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Thanks!

 On Friday 24 December 2004 02:39 pm, Maury Pepper wrote:
> Yes for all three.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hardhats" 
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:50 PM
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Please test for me
>
> > Does a request for a user and password pop up when you connect to this
> > link? I would like to know with IE, Mozilla, Firefox, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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[Hardhats-members] Please test for me

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Does a request for a user and password pop up when you connect to this link? I 
would like to know with IE, Mozilla, Firefox, etc.  

Thanks.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] D ^ZU

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I have not got a recent FOIA installed, but I think the code may not look 
exactly the same any more and it is throwing people off.  As I recall, I have 
gotten some emails from newbies to that effect.

On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:26 am, Beza, Fil wrote:
> Exactly Kevin.  I've seen this asked many times and I'm wondering do
> installer miss this step In the install guide?  Note the alternative
> solution works only in a fully licensed cache NOT the single user free
> downloadable version.
>
>
>
> Highlight LOCALTCP-VISTA, then File, Open and enter "%ZOSV.INT". Open it
> and the first several lines are as follows: %ZOSV   ;SFISC/AC - $View
> commands for Open M for NT. ;12/04/2001 15:30
> ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215**;Jul 10, 1995
> ACTJ()   ;# Active jobs
>N Y,% S %=0 F Y=0:1 S %=$ZJ(%) Q:%=""
>Q Y
> AVJ()   ;# available jobs
>;Return fixed value if version < 2.1.6 (e.i. not Caché)
>
>
>   After the line
>  ;Return fixed value if version < 2.1.6 (e.i. not Cache)
>   Insert
>  Q 99 ;Dummy return for Cache 5
>   Save and close the file.  On the Result tab in the Output window, you
> will see the following: "Compiling routine: %ZOSV.INT"
> "Compile finished successfully."
>
>   (*** An alternative solution provided by a Hardhats member to keep
> available jobs is to add the following at AVJ() ;# available jobs: This
> keeps rather than bypasses available jobs.
>
>
>   AVJ() ;# available jobs
> I $$VERSION^%ZOSV()'<5 N XFIAJ D Q XFIAJ ; *** To get available jobs in
> Cache 5.0 . X "S ZOSV=$ZU(5),%=$ZU(5,""%SYS"") S
> XFIAJ=$system.License.LUAvailable(),%=$ZU(5,ZOSV)"
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:40 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] D ^ZU
>
> I am not using Cache, but it seems like I saw that same error when I was
> installing.  I think the error message he is seeing is "Trouble, Call IRM
> right away."  And I think it happens when there are not enough licenses to
> run the jobs.  Seems like there was a discussion about how to get around
> this...
>
> Kevin
>
> --- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In the terminal window, try VAH>D ^XUS instead of
> > VAH>D ^ZU.  You should be
> > thrown back to the programmer's prompt without the Cache window
> > closing if you have problems.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Reister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Hardhats Members"
> > 
> > Cc: "David Reister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:20 PM
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] D ^ZU
> >
> > > Hardhats
> > >
> > > I am installing VistA on a Windows PC using Cache.
> > >
> > > I am following the steps in "VistA Install with
> >
> > Cache 5 in Windows",
> > Chapter 1.
> >
> > > At step 91,when I entered "D ^ZU" the Cache
> >
> > Terminal crashed.  I
> >
> > > briefly glimpsed the word "trouble" on the
> >
> > Terminal window before it
> >
> > > disappeared.
> > >
> > > What am I doing wrong?
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where can I learn about CPRS Templates?

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It is in the CPRS Users Guide and then in the guide it refers to the location 
in the TIU were the coordinators can make their templates for groups of 
people, but they use essentially the same techniques as for the users. I have 
never done it, I just happened to have looked it up a couple of days ago.

On Wednesday 22 December 2004 04:05 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Now that I have CPRS up running, I have been exploring
> the functionality of CPRS.
>
> Let me just say here.
>
> WOW!
>
> I was hoping for a quality method to store straight
> text progress notes.  But now I see that it may be
> quite easy to create one's own notes (vs. paying a
> transcriptionist.)
>
> I am especially interested in the MyTemplates part.
> It looks like one can easily setup templates that can
> be dragged and dropped into a note.  And I have just
> found that one can create dialog boxes too.  I'm
> almost drooling here.
>
> But I can't find the documentation for creating dialog
> templates, so I can get them fully working.  I have
> looked in the VDL, but as usual its like looking for a
> needle in a haystack.
>
> Anyone know where documentation for dialog templates
> is?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM question -- runing a program on startup

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

It looks to me like it is looking for mumps direct in you user routines, not 
your /usr/local/gtm/o directory, which also does not seem to be in the 
statement about where to look.  I think that it needs to read like this:

gtmroutines= /usr/local/OpenVistA/o /home/kdt0p/OpenVistA_UserData/o 
(usr/local/OpenVistA/r
/home/kdt0p/OpenVistA_UserData/r /usr/local/gtm)
/usr/local/gtm

Now, see if I got it right this time.  I don't think I have ever posted it 
correctly, but Bhaskar always fixes it, so it doesn't work, just wait!

On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:59 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Marc,
>
> Thanks.  Just got around to trying this.  Here is the
> relevant part of my script that I changed.  It doesn't
> seem to be working.
>
> echo "GT.M VistA Startup Script"
> echo "-"
> echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
> echo
> echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
> echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
> echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
> echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
> echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
> echo "vista_home="vista_home
> echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
> echo " "
> echo "Entering GT.M system now... "
> #-
> export EDITOR="vim"
> if [ ?# -lt 0 ] then
>  $gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
> else
>  $gtm_dist/mumps -dir
> fi
>
> #sh /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista --run
> $HOME/OpenVistA_UserData
> echo " "
> echo "Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux..."
> echo " "
>
>
> -
>
> Here is the error I get:
>
> GT.M VistA Startup Script
> -
> FYI, here are relevant defined variables:
>
> gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
> gtm_vista=/home/kdt0p/OpenVistA_UserData
> gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
> gtmgbldir=/usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.gld
> vista_home=vista_home
> gtmroutines=/home/kdt0p/OpenVistA_UserData/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA/r
> /home/kdt0p/OpenVistA_UserData/r /usr/local/gtm)
> /usr/local/gtm()
>
> Entering GT.M system now...
> runvista: line 35: syntax error near unexpected token
> `else'
> runvista: line 35: `else'
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] kdt0p]$
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
>
>
> --- Marc Aylesworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > The general way to check for arguments is to check
> > the variable count so
> > the below psudocode would translate into
> >
> > if [ ?# -lt 0 ] then
> >
> > $gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
> > else
> > $gtm_dist /mumps -dir
> > fi
> >
> > this would be in bourne , bash or Korn shell.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Toppenberg
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:32 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM question --
> > runing a program on
> > startup
> >
> > OK, so here is my script after revisions.  This
> > won't
> > run a specified routine on startup.  I would need a
> > script that replaces
> > $gtm_dist/mumps -dir
> > with
> > $gtm_dist/mumps -r MYFUNCT
> >
> > I'll have to learn a bit more of the scripting
> > language to do the following pseudocode:
> > if exists($1)
> >   $gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
> > else
> >   $gtm_dist/mumps -dir
> > end
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > (Script below)
> >
> > #start KT addition
> > #12-14-2004 --moved exports into runvista script
> > #-
> > export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> > export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
> > export gtm_vista=$HOME/OpenVistA_UserData
> > export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
> > export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista_prod/g/mumps.gld
> > export vista_home=$gtm_vista
> > export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> > $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"
> >
> > PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
> >
> > #-
> > echo " "
> > echo " "
> > echo " "
> > echo "Starting GT.M VistA"
> > echo "---"
> > echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
> > echo
> > echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
> > echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
> > echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
> > echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
> > echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
> > echo "vista_home="vista_home
> > echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
> > echo " "
> > echo "Entering GT.M system now... "
> > #-
> > export EDITOR="vim"
> > $gtm_dist/mumps -dir
> > #sh /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista --run
> > $HOME/OpenVistA_UserData
> > echo " "
> > echo "Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux..."
> > echo " "
> >
> >
> > p.s. I haven't decided what to do with the $HOME
> > issue... Currently I plan all interaction with the
> > system to be via CPRS, so there won't be multiple
> > users.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 22:36, Jim Self wrote:
> > > > Kevin wrote:
> > >
> > > [KSB] <...snip...>
> > >
> > > > >> > export
> > >
> > > gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> > >
> > > > >> > $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [KSB] Consider following (1 line) instead:
> > > > >> export gtmroutines="gt

Re: [Hardhats-members] modern day programming (was: Intersystems)

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the reason for so much interest in SQL 
that so many people in the work force are trained to make queries using SQL?  
Isn't the issue writing an interface that allows SQL queries of a Mumps 
database. Isn't that what that company in Massachusetts 
(  http://mde.srs-inc.com/aboutmde.html) and Cache does that people want?  

On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:51 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> 
> We (UC Davis VMTH) have been generating comparable web pages and queries
> in VMACS for 10 years now using MUMPS, HTML, and JavaScript and
> comparable ADHOC queries for more than 10 years before that using
> Fileman and our own query and search tools written in MUMPS. We have
> avoided use of SQL because it seemed less efficient and more complicated
> for our needs than using MUMPS - and much more expensive.
> 
>
> Expensive how?  In terms of memory/cpu cycles and execution time or just
> $$$ with license costs?
> I haven't tried it personally but if an engine (such as Cache) can have
> direct access to the underlying data via a language, it would seem to me
> that a language written out in TSQL or M would act similarly if those
> layers were given the same amount of care.  If a language had to compute
> something, such as SUM, then there might be execution path scenarios and
> process/threading consideration but just straight record selection
> shouldn't be on a factor of 2x, 3x, 4x - is it?
>
> To me, using a SQL connection to M and writing a JSP or ASP[.NET] page
> in terms of productivity would seem to justify that route.  Not to start
> a flame war, I'm sure a lot of you can code M to output table TRs and
> TDs tightly but I'm used to HTML/IDEs built for Web use - and they do
> have their benefits.  (I don't think everyone would argue that the
> homebrew and GNU pages lack a little designer spunk.  Instead they look
> like they were coded in emacs/vi and went straight to publishing.)
>
> I've said this before on this thread and I'll admit it again - I do use
> VB6, sometimes it's just quicker to write something without worrying
> about all the little details.
>
> Dan Appleman, popular VB author, wrote in the book 'Moving to VB.NET'.
>
>   I think Visual Basic programmers have been intimidated by the
> C++
>   crowds, who have the tendency to raise their noses and say,
> "Visual
>   Basic is not a real object-oriented language.  A real
> object-oriented
>   language has true inheritance" - at which point, the poor VB
>   programmer would slink into his cubicle and churn out in an hour
>   as much code as the C++ programmer could generate in a week.
>
> You can code any project 50 ways; it's not only finding the best
> approach available today but also the best one that fits your skill set.
> I could code an ISAPI filter in straight C and hard-code the output of
> my "HTML" page but by no means is that considered productivity (unless
> I'm trying to win some benchmarks).
>
> Again, I haven't tried SQL to Web output so everyone else may have
> horror stories but [to me] it seems to be a faster route.  Question
> isn't why should I use straight M but why not use SQL connections?
>
> /David.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
> Self
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 7:44 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] modern day programming (was:
> Intersystems)
>
> Ostrander, Terry L. wrote:
> >Proof is in the pudding.
>
> I totally agree. Concrete examples and comparisons can be quite
> illuminating.
>
> >I created the necessary Cache' objects to
> >emulate a VistA system and now I am able to perform ADHOC queries and
> >write programs using modern day programming languages. For example I
> >recently wrote a Mental Health Performance Monitor Web page using a
> >mixture of html, JavaScript, SQL and CSP (Cache' Server Page).
>
> We (UC Davis VMTH) have been generating comparable web pages and queries
> in VMACS for 10
> years now using MUMPS, HTML, and JavaScript and comparable ADHOC queries
> for more than 10
> years before that using Fileman and our own query and search tools
> written in MUMPS. We
> have avoided use of SQL because it seemed less efficient and more
> complicated for our
> needs than using MUMPS - and much more expensive.
>
> >One of the SQL queries was the following
> >
> >select VISIT->HOSPITAL_LOCATION->NAME,
> >   PATIENT_NAME->NAME->NAME,
> >   RIGHT(PATIENT_NAME->NAME->SOCIAL_SECURITY_NUMBER,4),
> >   POV->CODE_NUMBER, VISIT->VISITADMIT_DATETIME,
> >   '' RX_DATE,
> >   'NO' MEDS,
> >   PATIENT_NAME->NAME
> > from TR557.V_POV
> > where (VISIT->VISITADMIT_DATETIME >= '06/01/2003' and
> >VISIT->VISITADMIT_DATETIME < '07/01/2003')
> >  AND (VISIT->SERVICE_CATEGORY IN ('AMBULATORY',
>
> 'HOSPITALIZATION'))
>
> >  AND (POV->CODE_NUMBER IN('296.21', '296.22',
> >296.23','296.24','296.25',
> 

[Hardhats-members] FYI: VHA Care Follows Best Practices More Often

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Patients in the Department of Veterans Affairs healthcare system are more 
likely to receive preventive and chronic care as recommended by 
well-established national standards than is the general population.

http://www.modernphysician.com/news.cms?newsId=2953
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[Hardhats-members] I heard from Joel Ivey RE CPRS Single Port Issue

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I am pasting some of his reply in here.  Can some gurus explain the second 
part to me?


The problem with Kevin's solution as suspected by Steve:

"Something close to that was one of the options that we considered.  However,
that will limit a user to a single application connection to that port
number.  If this is not a problem, it will work fine.  However, we had to
consider the possibility (probability) that a user might want multiple
applications open on the same port number.  Our solution provides that
capability." - from Joel Ivey

**
So I asked him what they did to fix it.  He said the next version of CPRSChart 
will contain this fix. I asked him to tell us about it if it wasn't 
confidential and he said this:

"None of our work, as far as I am concerned is confidential.  We release all
of our source code and appreciate any feedback as well."

"The solution that we chose was to use a UCX-type listener on the server (on
VAX and I believe GT.M) that does not require a callback and is similar to
the type of connection made with telnet.  This and the use of different
initial headers ( {XWB} vs [XWB] (new style) vs  (M2M broker) ) also
provides the ability to differentiate between the old style connection and
the new style so that some new parameter types could be added for data
transfer (e.g., a global list in addition to a list).  On NT, I believe the
connection as it is made spawns off a new listener, so that it does not have
to do a callback as well." - from Joel Ivey


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Re: [Hardhats-members] D ^ZU

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

We were trying to work this out the other day.  I think the resolution was 
instead of doing step 38 the way it is now,  comment out this line by putting 
a semicolon  in front of it.  Try that to see if it works and let us know, 
please.

JOBCHK I $$AVJ^%ZOSV()<3 W $C(7),!!,"** TROUBLE ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! **" G
ALT
[ search on "IRM"  ]



On Monday 20 December 2004 08:20 pm, David Reister wrote:
> Hardhats
>
> I am installing VistA on a Windows PC using Cache.
>
> I am following the steps in "VistA Install with Cache 5 in Windows",
> Chapter 1.
>
> At step 91,when I entered "D ^ZU" the Cache Terminal crashed.  I
> briefly glimpsed the word "trouble" on the Terminal window before it
> disappeared.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> David
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I have written to them but have yet to hear a peep.  

On Monday 20 December 2004 06:33 pm, A. Forrey wrote:
> I'd like to remind everyone of the M21 MUMPS supplier in Rugby UK.Thye too
> have been around a while and the hardhats as well as the vista community
> should be encouraging these Supplier.  Much of the animosity regarding
> Intersystems arose when it bcame the (almost) only Supplier until
> Greystone passed it legacy to to the Open source folks. Terry's comment
> only points out that everyone will benefit if everyone is involved. THat
> means getting back to the common conventions of the MDC and ensuring that
> all Supplier Prodcuts conform to the agreed upon conventions. That reality
> was proved by the MDC effort form 1972 to 1999 and it is still true.
> Hardhats can continue to contribute by showing where common conventions
> provide real advantages to an architecture like VistA which can be set up
> on a variety of platforms and users and managers can educate both
> maintainers and developers to one set of consistent conventions. Users
> (both Acquirers and Suppliers can get together and quickly get on the same
> wavelength when speaking of a given capability; that was the beauty of the
> MUG/MTA meetings for years and it still can based on a scalable/high
> performance technology that continues to evolve regardless of the "dont
> confuse me with the facts" types' attitudes. But that technical virtuosity
> needs to be incorporated in a LIfe Cycle perspective such as that pointed
> to by Nancy in the AMA news. The key pices are their we just need to light
> off the effort and get underway. I will certainly be interested in dialog
> from anywhere in the world - Supplier or Acquirer. Any hot words from the
> M21 folks up in the Midlands!?
>
>
> Arden W. Forrey PhD
> Dept of Restorative Dentistry
> University of Washington School of Dentistry
>
> 206-616-1875 Phone
> 206-543-7783 FAX
>
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Terry Wiechmann wrote:
> > Let me state it even more strongly - without Intersystems, MUMPS will
> > truly be dead. It's imperative that they and their users get more
> > actively involved in the Open VistA movement - they can bring a great
> > deal of credibility to the movement. Personally, I use Cache for all my
> > current development. Its evolved into a sophisticated system that
> > provides all the productivity tools a programmer needs to get the job
> > done. They should be proud of it.
> >
> > It's not an either/or situation between the Open Source and commercial
> > endeavor. Any organization that wants to participate and take advantage
> > of Open Source must also have products to sell. Not only would the Open
> > VistA world benefit from Intersystems being involved more actively,
> > Intersystems will benefit - it's a synergy.
> >
> > Terry L. Wiechmann
> > www.esitechnology.com
> > 978-779-0257
> > Skype: twiechmann
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems
> >
> >> I will put it stronger.  I wish we could do more to encourage
> >> Intersystem and Cache users to post on this list.  I personally have
> >> been taken aback
> >
> > by
> >
> >> the serious animosity toward Intersystems that has been posted on this
> >
> > list.
> >
> >> My guess is that it is only a few people expressing a lot of animosity.
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Crash on D ^ZU
> >>
> >>
> >> I do. ;-)
> >>
> >> On Thursday 09 December 2004 10:27 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> >>> Bob,
> >>>
> >>> ..."lots of animosity against InterSystems"...
> >>>
> >>> I prefer the OpenSource solution of GTM, but I would
> >>> never say that I have animosity against InterSystems.
> >>> You've always been helpful.  I hope others feel the
> >>> same.
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>> --- "Robert M. Witkop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> VA employees can get developers licenenses from
> >>>> InterSystems. Others who
> >>>> want to develop VistA applications on C

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Messaging

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Just a guess, but take a look how vital signs are handled.  I believe they are 
entered in CPRS and then can be graphed, so they are probably entered into a 
field of their own like you must want.

On Monday 20 December 2004 12:48 pm, Boon, Thomas wrote:
> I have been customizing the CPRS client to fit my organization's needs. So
> Far, I have been able to add information on the server side and display it
> on the client by adding to the server-side messages.  This is ok for
> display purposes, however, I would like to add fields to the client that
> can be sent back to the server. Specifically, I am trying to add some
> fields to the Medication ordering section of CPRS. Does anyone have
> experience with this? Does anyone have insight on how to add more fields to
> the ordering response message.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Tom

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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection problems

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

Lloyd, it is apparent that you could sure help improve Chapter 2 (getting CPRS 
running and connected) on the Hardhats site by either adding or helping me to 
add all of this great stuff you are talking about to it.  

Now that I have openly twisted your arm, I'll write to you to see if we can 
work something out! ;-)

On Monday 20 December 2004 09:19 am, Lloyd Milligan wrote:
> Kevin, In that second block of code, the "reject" reply is sent when the
> attempt to JOB EN^XWBTCPC(parameter_list) fails (timeout=5 sec).  Failure
> is also recorded under ^TMP("TCP").   Thus, zwrite ^TMP("TCP") should
> confirm or disconfirm failure at this point.  Clearly this is debug code. 
> However, it could help in troubleshooting the problem.
>
>
> Lloyd
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection problems
>
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > I get back a 1 when I "WRITE $$NEWJOB^XWBTCPL".
> >
> > Looking at the code for XWBTCPL, there are two ways
> > that "reject" gets sent back.  You already brought up
> > the first way, and since I am getting back a 1, I
> > don't think this one is the problem.  Below is the
> > relevent portion of code. The 2nd 'reject' is down at
> > the bottom.
> >
> > From tracing on the CPRS side, I think that MSG will
> > be:
> > "TCPconnect^192.168.3.4^1725^E-Machine^"
> >
> >
> > . I $P(MSG,"^")="TCPconnect" D
> > . . ;-- decrypt token
> > . . N DZ,%T
> > . . S DZ="",%T=0
> > . . S RETRY=$S($G(RETRY)>1:RETRY-1,1:0) ;(*p7*)
> > . . I '$$NEWJOB D SNDERR W "reject",$C(4) D FLUSH
> > Q;(*p7*)
> >  . . ;
> >  . . ;Use "no callback" mode if client requests it or
> > is running NAT
> >  . . S NOCB=0
> >  . . I $P(MSG,"^",5)'="" S NOCB=1
> >  . . ;#SGS# S NATIP=$$GETPEER^%ZOSV I
> > $L(NATIP),NATIP'=$P(MSG,"^",2) S
> > $P(MSG,"^",2)=NATIP,NOCB=1
> >  . . ;
> >  . . ;Job a Server, X should be null
> >  . . I NOCB D  ;use "no callback" mode
> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Entering 'no callback' mode")
> >  . . . J
> > EN^XWBTCPS($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5 S %T=$T
> >  . . . N PORT S PORT=$$SLOPPY S:PORT="" %T=0
> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Slave port was '"_PORT_"'")
> >  . . . I %T D SNDERR W "accept^"_PORT,$C(4) D FLUSH
> >  . . E  D  ;use "normal" callback mode
> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Entering 'callback' mode")
> >  . . . J
> > EN^XWBTCPC($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5 S %T=$T
> >  . . . I %T D SNDERR W "accept",$C(4) D FLUSH
> >  . . I '%T D SNDERR W "reject",$C(4) D FLUSH S
> > ^TMP("TCP",$P($H,",",2))="REJECT"
> >  . ;
> >
> > So to pick apart the code, we have:
> >  . . . J
> > EN^XWBTCPC($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5 S %T=$T
> > Which should become (with variable substitution)
> >  . . . J
> > EN^XWBTCPC("192.168.3.4","1725","",XWBVER,"E-Machine")::5
> > S %T=$T
> >
> > Then, looking at EN^XWBTCPC, I find one intersting
> > line:
> > ;Use Kernel to open the connection back to the client
> > on new port
> > D CALL^%ZISTCP(XWBTIP,XWBTSKT) Q:POP  S
> > XWBTDEV=IO,IO(0)=IO
> >
> > Here is appears that the server tries to call back to
> > the client on the specified port... in this case port
> > "1725"
> >
> > There was a discussion a month or so ago about
> > communications taking place using a random callback
> > port.  It seems like this is the place that happens.
> > I looks like CPRS specifies what port it wants call
> > back on (and it looks like there is an option for 'no
> > call back').  I'll have to look on the CPRS side to
> > see how the "1725" gets chosen.
> >
> > So I've followed this path about as far as I can
> > tonight.  I want to follow Nancy's suggestions and see
> > if there is a Windows Internet Connection Firewall
> > blocking communication, and I want to try flushing
> > (temporarily) my iptables on linux to see if that
> > helps.
> >
> > Any input on any of this would be appreciated!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Lloyd Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Kevin, Yes, that looks okay.  I should have said
> >> ","-piece, not "^"-piece.
> >> But your names agree so that isn't it.  I don't
> >> immediately see where else
> >> it could be.  Can you try it manually?  SET
> >> XWBVOL="VOL" (your volume name).
> >> Then WRITE $$NEWJOB^XWBTCPL.  This should display
> >> '1' if a new job can
> >> start.  If it returns '1' then we have to look
> >> elsewhere for the trouble.
> >> If it returns '0' then the problem is to figure out
> >> why.  Possibly
> >> ^%ZOSF("ACTJ") returns a bad value..
> >>
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 7:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection
> >> problems
> >>
> >> > Llyod,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your feedback.  Here is a screen log of
> >> > when I check these things.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

I, for one, feel that anyone interested in VistA on any OS is someone I would 
like to talk to.  

Let's not divide ourselves into camps.  We are not such a huge group that we 
can afford to do that.

On Monday 20 December 2004 01:51 pm, steven mcphelan wrote:
> If you wish to have voices speak up, so be it.  I agree with you.  It
> appears that hardhats has degenerated into a freebie-linux-gtm forum rather
> than its original intent which is exposure to the VA's platform independent
> VistA EHR.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems
>
> > I will put it stronger.  I wish we could do more to encourage Intersystem
> > and Cache users to post on this list.  I personally have been taken aback
>
> by
>
> > the serious animosity toward Intersystems that has been posted on this
>
> list.
>
> > My guess is that it is only a few people expressing a lot of animosity.
> > Jim
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection problems

[Nancy E. Anthracite]

When I looked at the Sept. 24 to 30, 2004 posts with the thread VistA Without 
CPRS.  Roy Gaber said it is this:

"The code is in wsockc.pas, the port for the callback is actually set by
the client.  Look for LocalPort in the code and you will see how the RPC
Clientgets this port, it sends the port to the host (VistA) along with the ip
address so the host (VistA) knows where to do the call back."

In one of those September posts, Cameron said that Joel Ivey wrote the code 
that solved that problem with the VADemo and resulted in the *.msi file on 
www.va.gov/vista.  Just yesterday I wrote to Joel to ask about it.  I haven't 
heard back. 


On Monday 20 December 2004 10:46 am, Lloyd Milligan wrote:
> Hmm, I remember looking over Steve Shreeve's shoulder as we tried various
> tricks to work around the non-routeable callback problem.  As you see the
> client can signal that it doesn't want to be called back (requires
> modifying the client broker to use "^"-piece 5 of the message), or the
> server can decide not to call back, based on the $$GETPEER return.  But if
> a "reject" is returned to the client at this point the listener must have
> fallen through to standard callback mode.  To the best of my knowledge
> these circumventions were eventually abandoned in favor of tunneling the
> callback. I don't have a copy of this version or of the ^ZUTL routine. 
> However, you should see where the log is stored by looking in ^ZUTL.
>
> Lloyd
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection problems
>
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > Thanks.  I saw your name in the code, so I know you
> > hve knowledge in this area.
> >
> > Also, I see the command LOG^ZUTIL("...")  How do I
> > read these log files/entries?
> >
> > I'm hoping you have some input on my other post too.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Lloyd Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Kevin, In that second block of code, the "reject"
> >> reply is sent when the
> >> attempt to JOB EN^XWBTCPC(parameter_list) fails
> >> (timeout=5 sec).  Failure is
> >> also recorded under ^TMP("TCP").   Thus, zwrite
> >> ^TMP("TCP") should confirm
> >> or disconfirm failure at this point.  Clearly this
> >> is debug code.  However,
> >> it could help in troubleshooting the problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS connection
> >> problems
> >>
> >> > Lloyd,
> >> >
> >> > I get back a 1 when I "WRITE $$NEWJOB^XWBTCPL".
> >> >
> >> > Looking at the code for XWBTCPL, there are two
> >>
> >> ways
> >>
> >> > that "reject" gets sent back.  You already brought
> >>
> >> up
> >>
> >> > the first way, and since I am getting back a 1, I
> >> > don't think this one is the problem.  Below is the
> >> > relevent portion of code. The 2nd 'reject' is down
> >>
> >> at
> >>
> >> > the bottom.
> >> >
> >> > From tracing on the CPRS side, I think that MSG
> >>
> >> will
> >>
> >> > be:
> >> > "TCPconnect^192.168.3.4^1725^E-Machine^"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > . I $P(MSG,"^")="TCPconnect" D
> >> > . . ;-- decrypt token
> >> > . . N DZ,%T
> >> > . . S DZ="",%T=0
> >> > . . S RETRY=$S($G(RETRY)>1:RETRY-1,1:0) ;(*p7*)
> >> > . . I '$$NEWJOB D SNDERR W "reject",$C(4) D FLUSH
> >> > Q;(*p7*)
> >> >  . . ;
> >> >  . . ;Use "no callback" mode if client requests it
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> > is running NAT
> >> >  . . S NOCB=0
> >> >  . . I $P(MSG,"^",5)'="" S NOCB=1
> >> >  . . ;#SGS# S NATIP=$$GETPEER^%ZOSV I
> >> > $L(NATIP),NATIP'=$P(MSG,"^",2) S
> >> > $P(MSG,"^",2)=NATIP,NOCB=1
> >> >  . . ;
> >> >  . . ;Job a Server, X should be null
> >> >  . . I NOCB D  ;use "no callback" mode
> >> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Entering 'no callback' mode")
> >> >  . . . J
> >
> > EN^XWBTCPS($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5
> >
> >> > S %T=$T
> >> >  . . . N PORT S PORT=$$SLOPPY S:PORT="" %T=0
> >> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Slave port was '"_PORT_"'")
> >> >  . . . I %T D SNDERR W "accept^"_PORT,$C(4) D
> >>
> >> FLUSH
> >>
> >> >  . . E  D  ;use "normal" callback mode
> >> >  . . . D LOG^ZUTIL("Entering 'callback' mode")
> >> >  . . . J
> >
> > EN^XWBTCPC($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5
> >
> >> > S %T=$T
> >> >  . . . I %T D SNDERR W "accept",$C(4) D FLUSH
> >> >  . . I '%T D SNDERR W "reject",$C(4) D FLUSH S
> >> > ^TMP("TCP",$P($H,",",2))="REJECT"
> >> >  . ;
> >> >
> >> > So to pick apart the code, we have:
> >> >  . . . J
> >
> > EN^XWBTCPC($P(MSG,"^",2),$P(MSG,"^",3),$P(DZ,"^"),XWBVER,$P(MSG,"^",4))::
> >5
> >
> >> > S %T=$T
> >> > Which should become (with variable substitution)
> >> >  . . . J
> >
> > EN^XWBTCPC("192.168.3.4","1725","",XWBVER,"E-Machine")::5
> >
> >> > S %T=$T
> >> >
> >> > Then, lookin