Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_announce] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Alex - osyu at pm.me (via hlds list)]

On Friday, June 24th, 2022 at 9:01 AM, Weasel [F]  
wrote:
> So if I can correctly from the discussion so far in this thread, setting 
> net_disconnect_reason on server side, is basically just for the purpose of 
> having the reason show up in the server side logs?

Yes, also to show in chat to other players. It was never supposed to be a
client-side var according to its description (and to Joshua's replies in
here), it affecting the client was an oversight.
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Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Alex - osyu at pm.me (via hlds list)]

On Friday, June 24th, 2022 at 6:05 AM, Joshua Ashton  wrote:
> The client does nothing with net_disconnect_reason.
> It's an entirely server-sided convar.

It looks like the ConVar is used in engine code which affects how both the
client and server process all disconnect messages. When set to 0 on a client,
it will always override the disconnect reason with "Client Disconnect" on the
client's end, which is unintended behavior (it's also what was happening
before this ConVar existed).

Video demonstration of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiacrieODC8

Alex K.
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Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

[Alex Kowald]

Heads up, you left your debug prints in when a player is healed. It can
produce quite some spam in the server console.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> We’re released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
> update are below. The new version number is 4462894.
>
>
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
> Matchmaking Changes
>
> - The initial load time into a match no longer counts against a player's
> abandon timer
>
> - Changed the timeout before a missing player is marked as having
> abandoned a competitive match to be three minutes from the first time a
> player disconnects from the server, rather than from the moment the match
> is formed
>
> - Queue times should now be significantly faster when dealing with large
> numbers of placement and recently-placed players in queue
>
> - Moved the Competitive MMR change notification so it no longer overlaps
> your rank
>
> - Fixed continuing to receive the prompt to rejoin a match after you have
> been dropped from said match
>
> - Fixed a case where players would receive a rank change in matches that
> dissolved due to abandon
>
>
>
> General
>
> - Added a stomp animation to Pyro that plays when coming down after
> blasting off from the Thermal Thruster
>
> - Added HLPugs.tf tournament medals
>
> - Added Gette it Onne! tournament medals
>
> - Added TFCL tournament medals
>
> - Added Copenhagen Games tournament medals
>
> - Fixed Medics having an accelerated Übercharge build-rate when healing
> full-health Snipers who are using The Razorback
>
> - Fixed being able to capture control points during setup time
>
> - Fixed the Golden Wrench not having an offset when using minimized
> viewmodels
>
> - Fixed the Private Maggot Muncher hiding the Soldier's hat when equipped
>
> - Fixed the Medic's auto-call feature not including enemy Spies disguised
> as the Medic's team
>
> - Fixed The Lugermorph not displaying when inspected in the backpack
>
> - Fixed unusual effects on the Brass Bucket rendering in the wrong spot
>
> - Fixed Mann vs. Machine late-join failing for parties of two or more
>
> - Fixed the Short Circuit orb not changing particle color after being
> deflected
>
> - Fixed the Short Circuit orb not being able to destroy rockets/grenades
> during the first 0.25 seconds of their lifetime
>
> - Updated models and materials for the Private Maggot Muncher
>
> - Updated the localization files
>
>
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Re: [hlds] TF2 - Upcoming game server account requirements

[Alex Kowald]

Some other concerns I had about how Valve handled GSLT tokens in CS:GO:
1. Clients can only connect to servers with valid GSLT.
2. Item drops being limited to GSLT servers.
3. Arbitrary reporting system that bans servers for modifying economy
items. (Valve has taken steps to clear this up, however.)

Valve hasn't said they want to do these things so I remain optimistic that
this system will weed out the worst offenders and improve quickplay!

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Ross Bemrose  wrote:

> CS:GO bans servers that change weapons around.
>
> This would kill a LOT of custom game modes, such as Vs. Saxton Hale,
> Randomizer, and PropHunt.  To name 3.
> On 5/13/2016 4:03 PM, Chase McIntyre wrote:
>
> How does this worry you? What exactly is your argument?
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, A Fearts  wrote:
>
>> Makes me very worried. If you saw how they were handling bans on "bad"
>> accounts in CS:GO you would be worried too.
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM, 1nsane < <1nsane...@gmail.com>
>> 1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This sounds promising :)
>>> On May 13, 2016 3:51 PM, "John Schoenick" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey everyone,

 I wanted to give a heads-up about some upcoming changes to the way
 server accounts work in TF.

 In an future update, we are going to be introducing features that will
 only be available to game servers that have a registered game server
 SteamID, via the Game Server Login Token (GSLT) system.  This system has
 existed for some time, but is currently only used in TF for persistent
 favouriting in the server browser.  It has also gained some more
 restrictions recently that you should be aware of.

 - Game server accounts are tied to an owning Steam user account
 - This Steam account must not be currently community banned or locked.
 - This Steam account must not be limited
 .
 - This Steam account must have a qualifying registered phone
 
 .
 - Game servers that violate the community guidelines for the game they
 are hosting may have their access suspended or revoked.
 - Game server account suspensions or bans also apply to *all* other
 game servers tied to said Steam user

 More info and management tools are here:
 https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers

 For TF specifically, being free-to-play, access to some upcoming
 features may eventually depend on the qualifications the owning Steam user
 account.  So, while creating dedicated individual user accounts to own
 individual game servers is possible, it may lead to an increased burden in
 the future.  We recommend game server accounts be registered to the Steam
 account of the acting server owner -- GSPs should require clients to
 provide their own tokens.

 This change will allow us to have a greater level of confidence in game
 servers, by making it easier to revoke access for bad actors and better
 tying game servers to their owners.  The increased persistence gives us
 many more opportunities to assign trust to community servers, and to
 provide them access to features that would otherwise be too open for
 abuse.  It also provides a much better mechanism for dealing with abuse
 than the current IP-ban system that is both less effective and more painful
 for server providers that share IPs between clients.

 We will have more information once we are ready to begin rolling out
 these features, but I wanted to send this heads up such that current admins
 and server providers can look into integrating this support into their
 setups.

 Let me know if you have any questions or concerns and I will try to
 address them,
 - Neph

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Re: [hlds] TF2 - New weapon exploit?

[Alex Kowald]

Video reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKwWeRW9cxg but chances
are Valve already knows about this.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Note: I haven't seen this exploit in person.

 I've been hearing about an exploit that is allowing players to equip
 weapons into slots they don't belong in.

 The most notorious example is the Mini-crit Minigun.  By equipping a
 Minigun in the melee slot and using the Buffalo Steak Sandvich in its
 normal slot, you end up with a minigun that minicrits until the Steak
 Sandvich effect wears off.

 Now, I haven't looked up how this works (and my Google-fu is failing), so
 I'm not sure if this would allow you to equip things like multiple
 primaries, or if it's just swapping the order of slots around.

 --
 Ross Bemrose

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Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?

[Alex Kowald]

We've been getting these client crashes after the update as well. I think
they are related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper. I've looked at crash dumps
and C_TFBuffItem::SendWeaponAnim(int) is in the call stack when the server
crashed.

This points to the base jumper as the culprit. I looked at a friend's crash
dump and it was identical. If Valve would like to take a look, I'd gladly
send the crash dumps over. Like you guys I run a bunch of mods but from
what I hear, this affects vanilla servers as well. Here's to hoping for a
fix?


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more crashes
 since players use it a lot but the crash is related to some weapon or taunt
 even.

 Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually are
 caused by someone doing something and others either see that or are near
 vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all players crash, just
 the majority.

 -ics

 Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:

 STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this
 apparently happened.  He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full
 server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people.

 You might look at it to find clues.




 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com mailto:
 ail...@gmail.com wrote:

 While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a
 chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there
 is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to
 disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying),
 but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type
 of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that
 clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago
 where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out
 would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone
 have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause
 client crashes?


 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina
 je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net wrote:


 I saw this on the Love and War patch day.  About half the
 people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash
 at the same time.

 I have no idea what it was.  There was no helpful clues on the
 console.  This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM.

 I have not seen it happen since.




 On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote:

 We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash
 at the same time, seemingly at random.

 He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to
 it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on
 vanilla servers as well.

   - Peter
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Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?

[Alex Kowald]

June 20 they supposedly fixed the crash and these crash dumps were from
yesterday.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:53 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 They already fixed one crash related to base jumper after the first update
 where it came in. Are you suggesting that there is another aka are you
 still today or yesterday having crashes?

 -ics

 Alex Kowald kirjoitti:

 We've been getting these client crashes after the update as well. I think
 they are related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper. I've looked at crash dumps and
 C_TFBuffItem::SendWeaponAnim(int) is in the call stack when the server
 crashed.

 This points to the base jumper as the culprit. I looked at a friend's
 crash dump and it was identical. If Valve would like to take a look, I'd
 gladly send the crash dumps over. Like you guys I run a bunch of mods but
 from what I hear, this affects vanilla servers as well. Here's to hoping
 for a fix?


 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net mailto:
 i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more
 crashes since players use it a lot but the crash is related to
 some weapon or taunt even.

 Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually
 are caused by someone doing something and others either see that
 or are near vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all
 players crash, just the majority.

 -ics

 Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:

 STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where
 this apparently happened.  He crashed (presumably on his
 server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find
 the server had about 10 people.

 You might look at it to find clues.




 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson
 ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com
 mailto:ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com wrote:

 While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed
 that a
 chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server.
 So there
 is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to
 disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be
 annoying),
 but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past
 this type
 of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that
 clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit
 ages ago
 where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his
 fists out
 would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone
 have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would
 cause
 client crashes?


 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina
 je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net
 mailto:je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net

 wrote:


 I saw this on the Love and War patch day.  About half the
 people on my server, including myself, had their
 clients crash
 at the same time.

 I have no idea what it was.  There was no helpful
 clues on the
 console.  This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM.

 I have not seen it happen since.




 On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote:

 We've been having upwards of half of our players
 all crash
 at the same time, seemingly at random.

 He have some funky plugins that might be
 contributing to
 it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same
 thing on
 vanilla servers as well.

   - Peter
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[hlds] Maps crashing clients (upward watchtower)

[Alex Kowald]

My server causes clients to crash on the map loading screen for the maps
pl_upward and arena_watchtower after today's update. This is on stock
servers with no mods. It seems to affect both windows and linux. Anybody
else seeing this behavior with any maps?
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Re: [hlds] Can't Join Team

[Alex Kowald]

I /think I've encountered this issue. The 'changeteam' command stops
working on the client but clever players can still use 'jointeam' to hop on
a team. You can reproduce this by trying to join a full team when you first
join the server (has to be your first attempt). After you have joined a
team once, you don't seem to be able to become stuck anymore in spectator.
It seems like a glitch with the HUD. Possible workarounds until Valve has a
look: Set mp_forceautoteam 1 or tell the stuck players to use 'jointeam
red/blue' or reconnect to the server.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Dill Bates dillbat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was it Turtles In Time?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:01 PM, 3Turtles 3turt...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
  I forgot to mention.  The game is TF2.
 
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Re: [hlds] New TF2 exploit in the wild... attacking while dead

[Alex Kowald]

A video with instructions on how to recreate the exploit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cBMNfQAIOs


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apparently certain weapons will continue to attack if a player uses
 +attack right before dying/suiciding.

 This is being used by players wielding the Disciplinary Action to speed up
 teammates, but on servers with mp_forcecamera 0 (such as on VSH/FF2
 servers) they can also attack enemy players by switching their spectate
 target to an enemy.

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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Alex Kowald]

The ELF header of libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4 is branded Linux(3) instead
of SVR4(0) like the others. My server isn't affected so I can't test but I
forced it to 0 and uploaded here to try:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6c6q3s If you prefer, you can use a utility
like brandelf and set it for yourself.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Dill Bates dillbat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't mean to gloat... My machines usually tank after updates. I am on
 Ubuntu Server if that helps.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's great for you, for everyone, we need a fix, and gloating about
 working, kind of lame.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Dill Bates dillbat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm on Linux and it works great

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Seyhan AKDENIZ s_akde...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Should we expect a hot fix for Linux startup fails. Eric?

  From: dillbat...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:19:17 -0700
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
 
  Update worked great for me. Thanks Eric!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com
 wrote:
 
   We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update
 are below. The new version is 1884404.
  
   -Eric
  
   --
  
   - Added Chemistry Sets as a bonus drop. Chemistry Sets are recipe
 items that have varying inputs and varying outputs. You can complete a
 Chemistry Set by fulfilling all of its inputs, which will then give you the
 items it has listed in its outputs.
   - The in-game player status panel has been updated to show an
 animated image of your character with their current loadout
   - Can be disabled in Advanced Options
   - Added Romevision sharing: anyone playing Mann vs. Machine on the
 same server with an owner of the Hardy Laurel can now opt-in to Romevision
   - Manage your Romevision preference in the Advanced Options dialog
   - Fixed a bug that would prevent Jarate and Mad Milk from applying to
 all targets within range
   - Fixed a bug that would cause the Marked For Death icon to stay in
 the world after the owning player died
   - Fixed a bug that would allow Spies to exploit the Kunai's higher
 overheal limit
   - Fixed a bug that prevented the Medigun's Share Power Ups upgrade
 from working correctly in Mann vs. Machine mode
   - Fixed a bug that would cause the last few characters of text to be
 lost when copying text from input fields
   - Fixed a client sv_cheats exploit related to the commentary dialog
   - Fixed a problem that would cause the shotgun shell model to appear
 incorrectly third-person when using the Family Business
   - Improved bot pathing behavior around ramps
   - Bots can now reflect energy-based projectiles
   - Fixed incorrect alpha in the backpack images for the Valley Forge
 and the Founding Father
   - The Foppish Physician and the Distinguished Rogue are now paintable
 and are team-colored by default
   - Added server log entries for jarate_attack and milk_attack when
 using Jarate, Mad Milk, or the Sydney Sleeper
   - Fixed using an incorrect path for downloaded custom player sounds
   - Fixed duplicate support/mission icons in the Mann vs. Machine HUD
   - Don't allow players without admin access on the server to use the
 various entity-creating commands to create point_servercommand entities
   - Updated cp_egypt_final
   - Fixed players building inside of Blu's first spawn
   - Updated cp_manor_event
   - Fixed players building in rafters
   - Updated cp_mountainlab
   - Fixed clip brush exploit above hallway leading toward final cap
   - Fixed exploit where players could be trapped in small space near
 final cap using teleporters
   - Updated plr_hightower
   - Added nobuild to cliff bottom to prevent engineers building in the
 kill volume
   - Updated the localization files
  
  
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Re: [hlds] TF2 server performance spikes

[Alex Kowald]

You are only accepting traces for windows servers correct? Some of the
people that have complained are running linux. I have the issue myself on
two independent servers. We get this new game studder after upgrading,
leaving everything else the same.


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Fletcher Dunn fletch...@valvesoftware.com
 wrote:

  I do have a theory about the cause of the CPU spikes.  I’ll release a
 build with the next mandatory update (which will probably be this
 afternoon) that I think could address the problem.  But since we are not
 reproducing the problem here, this is just a theory, not disciplined
 engineering.

 ** **

 In order to conduct disciplined engineering, we need data from those who
 are able to reproduce it.  Judging by the amount of discussion this problem
 has generated and the relatively small amount of effort that is required in
 order to get the data to us,  I’m really surprised we haven’t received more
 traces. 

 ** **

 I have given out vtrace keys to every person who has asked for one.  So
 far we have received traces from exactly two (2) server operators.  One
 server operator had processor affinities set, the other was running a high
 number of instances per core, such that the average CPU utilization was
 high and there was no headroom for more than one process to spike.

 ** **

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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

[Alex Kowald]

This update seemed to fix mass client timeouts I reported about.
Thanks a lot Valve. We need more updates like this!

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:51 PM, SneakySnow sneakys...@whatthefrag.net wrote:
 Has anyone else been experiencing random FPS drops since this update?

 I've asked a few friends I play with, they've also been getting FPS drops +
 random crashes, no crash logs just black screens and the game randomly shuts
 down.

 All Windows version.


 On 22 February 2013 19:22, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 Sorry. Yes, that note was for the Linux client.

 -Eric



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 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:15 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Win32 server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

 When you say - Improved performance for the Linux version, I assume
 that's for the Linux client?

 Saint K.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:42 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM updates released

 We've released mandatory updates for Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat:
 Source, and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. The notes for the updates are below.

 -Eric

 --

 Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2:DM)
 - Fixed a client crash related to rendering models
 - Fixed a client crash related to audio in the web browser
 - Fixed servers crashing with the error message Overflow error writing
 string table baseline
 - Fixed a missing material when setting mat_viewportscale to anything
 other than 1
 - Fixed windowed mode under certain window managers for the Linux version
 - Improved performance for the Linux version

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added new promo items
 - Fixed buildings not always being downgraded at the same rate by the
 Red-Tape Recorder
 - Fixed not hearing the sound for the Shred Alert taunt while playing Mann
 Vs. Machine
 - Fixed players spamming the Shred Alert taunt in spawn rooms by changing
 their loadout presets
 - Fixed giant robots sometimes getting stuck in Mann Vs. Machine
 - Fixed a problem where traders that send in-game trade requests would
 receive the error message The other player is currently busy trading with
 someone else when the problem was actually related to Steam Guard settings

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[hlds] [TF2] Mass client timeouts since last update

[Alex Kowald]

Hey everyone, since last night's update I've been getting weird mass
client disconnects. To the client, the game appears to just disappear.
No crash dumps or freezing, it's just gone. To the server, most of
everyone is dropped: 'Dropped player from server (player timed out)'.
In console, the timeouts are usually preceded by messages like this:

Entity 4 (class 'player') reported ENTITY_CHANGE_NONE but
'm_hObserverTarget' changed.
Entity 13 (class 'player') reported ENTITY_CHANGE_NONE but
'm_nPlayerCondEx' changed.

Anybody else seen a problem like this? It's happening somewhat
frequently. Thanks for whatever help!

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Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist?

[Alex Kowald]

Not using quickplay is a pretty dismissive solution to this problem.
Servers that lock people into watching the motd and cause player
crashes shouldn't be eligible for quickplay imo. Shouldn't be that
hard to code up a generator that reads the master list and parses out
a blacklist file for those servers with the public cvar set.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Doctor McKay li...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 Just find a server you like and stick with it. Works fine for me. Perhaps
 you might want to go to SPUF for your specific needs.

 Dr. McKay
 http://www.doctormckay.com

 -Original Message- From: Will Dueck
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:40 PM
 To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
 Cc: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist?


 This is a bit out of the scope of this mailing list, but does anyone
 have access to a list of servers using the Pinion Pot of Gold that I
 would be able to import into my client? Normally I just blacklist by
 hand, but this garbage is becoming too ubiquitous for that to be handy
 anymore, as I just got Pinioned five servers in a row.

 Thanks in advance, I'm sure I'm not the only one on these lists who is
 sick and tired of dealing with this.
 --
 Will Dueck
 http://cloudsoarer.com

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Re: [hlds] Alias Existing Commands

[Alex Kowald]

That's ridiculous. Players should be able to close the motd without the
server forcing it back on. The game wasn't designed to force adverts on the
player. Alias has been useful to prevent servers from running malicious
commands and should stay that way.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:43 PM, li...@doctormckay.com wrote:

 I forgot that closed_htmlpage isn't a client-side command. I wonder if a
 specific block on closed_htmlpage could be implemented?

 Dr. McKay
 http://www.doctormckay.com


 On 2013-02-05 14:40, li...@doctormckay.com wrote:

 Exploits that allow servers to execute arbitrary client commands (not
 those specifically tagged as server can execute) have been fixed.
 There's no need to block commands.

 I personally believe that blocking servers from receiving the MOTD
 closed notification should not be possible, which is what many people
 are doing with the alias command.

 Dr. McKay
 http://www.doctormckay.com

 On 2013-02-05 11:19, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:

 no need to restart the game.

 alias jpeg; // aliasing the jpeg command, which is used to make a
 screenshot.
 cmd jpeg // this will still make a screenshot.

 I use it (alias over a existing convar/command) to prevent some
 servers sending my client some commands I don't want changed on my
 client. Examples have been that servers tried to upload screenshots up
 to their servers etc.

 Already have to disable steam overlay  MOTD for some malicious stuff
 on some servers (I explore on others by time and while)

 So I really wouldn't want it being blocked, for that leaves too much
 open. There is no need for a restart, and imo its not a bug, I treat
 it like a prized feature.

  -
 FROM: Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com
 TO: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 SENT: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 14:31
 SUBJECT: Re: [hlds] Alias  Existing Commands

 This has been fixed in a few engine branches (CSGO definitely) as far
 as I know.

 On Tuesday, 5 February 2013, Joseph Miller wrote:

  Is it by design that it's possible to make an alias over the top of an
 existing command? In the event that you accidentally make an alias over an
 existing command, you have to completely restart the game, whereas it 
 seems
 like you shouldn't be able to overwrite an existing command in the first
 place.


 --

 Kind regards,Saul Rennison

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Re: [hlds] Alias Existing Commands

[Alex Kowald]

Just because *clients *do things that *servers* don't like doesn't mean the
functionality should be removed from the game. It works both ways McKay.

Disconnect and blacklist aside (most players do this), pinion forces users
to watch unstable flash content in the MOTD knowingly. There's no chance
for the player to disconnect. The server operators see their players as
sources of revenue and ignore any of the burdens they put on other players
and the community.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Doctor McKay li...@doctormckay.com wrote:

 On this I'm going to have to disagree. Clients are more than welcome to
 disconnect from servers that do things they don't like, and even blacklist
 them. Server owners should still maintain control over how their servers
 operate, even if what they do is unpopular.


 Doctor McKay
 http://www.doctormckay.com

 -Original Message- From: suckysoftw...@hmamail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:53 PM
 To: Hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Alias  Existing Commands


 The Server List should have a mandatory display of servers running
 specific services so users can predetermine wether they want to support
 such services w/o  joining a server to be crashed or find out if the server
 is operated correctly.

 Client users should be able to disable everything that is pushed from a
 server to a client. It just makes good sense to allow people to protect
 themselves from abuse and shotty server moderation.


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Re: [hlds] New feature in TF2 Beta dedicated server update

[Alex Ogier]

That gives me an idea: make a plugin that gives you extra damage and
powers vs. players you have blocked. Then see how toxic and alienated
your community can become.

-Alex Ogier



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then again, sv_steamblockingcheck 1 might be useful for plugin authors to
 hook in custom behavior depending on what users is blocking each other. :)

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect this feature is more useful for any loosely adminstrated servers
 (Offical Valve servers), so in that regard it's good.

 For us who activly admins the servers though, it seems pointless, or at
 best... a poor substition for a proper ban system. And a bit dangerous to
 add, I seen users dislike each other over the most petty reasons in our
 community leading to blocks, yet not causing any trouble on the servers
 themselves to deserve to be blocked/banned. Although I agree that chat and
 voice from blocked users should be automatically muted ingame, although
 that's a feature that should be added clientside. ;)

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Rich Kaethler r...@valvesoftware.com
 wrote:

 We have added support for Steam community blocking in the dedicated
 server. This functionality is in testing and is controlled by convar ( off
 by default ). If the convar is enabled, every new player at connect time (
 once authenticated ) will be tested against the block list of every player
 already authenticated on the server. If any of the players on the server
 have blocked this player, the dedicated server is notified, and that new
 player may be kicked from the server depending on the convar settings.

 It is assumed that the most popular setting will take advantage of steam
 groups. To do this, use the new  “sv_steamgroup” convar to set the group
 that your server belongs to, and set “sv_steamblockingcheck” to 2. With this
 setting only members of the group that “owns” the server may deny other
 players access to the server. If a group has been selected and
 “sv_steamblockingcheck” is set to 1, the console text will distinguish a new
 player that is blocked by a clan member vs a non-clan member.



 Here are the details of the options:



 sv_steamblockingcheck

 1 = print results to console only

 2 = kick the new player from the server if anyone already on the server
 who is a member of the associated clan has blocked the new player

 3 = kick the new player from the server if anyone already on the server
 has blocked the new player

 4 = kick the new player from the server if anyone already on the server
 has blocked the new player or the new player has blocked any existing player
 on the server



 sv_steamgroup

 Set this convar to the group ID of the group that this server belongs to.
 You can find your group’s ID on the admin profile page in the steam
 community.



 Please send feedback about blocking in dedicated servers directly to me.




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Re: [hlds] problem with the server

[alex]

Thank you that responded
No, the server on Linux (Debian)
How to update Steam client on Linux?
In the past, just start the server and I created a folder Steam. Now the folder
is not created and a UDP port that the server no (269**).
 Can I then blocked that and it prevents the server to connect to the server
Steam? Or the rights of a file is missing?



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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list

[Alex R.]

You will probably lose traffic to each post. The mailing list is always
right there in your mailbox for you to read if you have a couple of minutes.
With forums, you'll have people that ordinarily would be reading most emails
to the list just because they are there, that are now only going to the
forum when they themselves have an issue. If you can find a forum/mailing
list mirroring type thing, where every post is an email and every email is a
post (with proper threading), that would be ideal.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 What if you got an email when there was a new post?  (That's what I meant
 by push notification.)

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list

 Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
 important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
 check every forum on the planet to get the informations, that's back to
 stone age.


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 From: Fletcher Dunn
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:34 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list

 I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
 people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone
 signs up and instantly reads everything, goes through all the
 archives, or spends hours researching.

 I'd like to use this comment as a springboard for a discussion about the
 format of this list.

 I hear that a few years ago the idea of migrating the email list to a forum
 was kicked around.  However, at the time (is this still true today?) the
 users of the list didn't like the idea.  it is my understanding that most
 server admins prefer:

 1.) Receiving push notifications.
 2.) Viewing the list in their email client

 #1 seems like a really compelling advantage (especially for announcements),
 while #2 seems like a personal preference, and many people have the
 opposite
 preference.

 A forum has several compelling advantages:

 1.) Easier to search and find answers to previously asked questions
 2.) Easier to follow a thread of conversation.  (I personally find any
 email
 distribution list to become unreadable pretty much instantly, with all the
  's and broken line breaks that everybody's mail clients and put
 everywhere.)
 3.) Easier to modify your post if you notice a mistake or want to clarify
 something, rather than making a new post.
 4.) Easier to delete or move posts if they are spam, rude, inappropriate,
 belong in the general TF2 SPUF forum, etc.
 5.) Easier to ignore an entire thread that you are not interested in.

 Could there be some sort of forum + push notification that would satisfy
 what everybody wants?  This list exists to serve you guys, so I'm curious
 what everything thinks.  I *believe* most of the guys would find a forum
 format (perhaps with some push notification) more convenient.

 It would be good to get some opinions about how people prefer to consume
 the
 information on this list.

 Please chime in.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch

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Re: [hlds] CSS/DODS/HL2DM/TF2 Update Released

[Alex Kowald]

Both, just grab the latest snapshot of either.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.comwrote:

 1.8 or 1.9?
 ---
 Jonah Hirsch



 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:32 PM, e...@ccgaming.com wrote:

  Latest MM snapshot seems to be working.
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Grant aksu...@gmail.com
  Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:28:11
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] CSS/DODS/HL2DM/TF2 Update Released
 
  Many Thanks Voogru! I don't know how you do it!
 
  Server back up sans MM n SM :(
 
  On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Yates syate...@cfl.rr.com
  wrote:
 
   I tried this and it did not work for me.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of steve grout
   Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:14 PM
   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
   Subject: Re: [hlds] CSS/DODS/HL2DM/TF2 Update Released
  
   thanks voogru,
  
   i have removed all plugins and have verified the install with still no
   luck.. could you advise of anything else.in the interim of valves
   response to so many windows people having issues?
  
   On 18/12/2010 03:10, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote:
It worked for me, 4 windows servers running and packed.
   
No crashing and burning. Hot damn.
   
- Spencer.
   
On 12/17/2010 10:08 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
We're investigating and will have a solution soon.
   
-Eric
   
   
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Violent
   Crimes
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 7:04 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] CSS/DODS/HL2DM/TF2 Update Released
   
Doesnt work
   
On 12/17/2010 9:44 PM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote:
It appears you can fix windows by copying the FileSystem_Steam.dll
from the client GCF file, then placing it in the orangebox/bin
 folder
and renaming it to filesystem_stdio.dll.
   
The server boots up but dont know if it'll crash and burn.
   
Epic fail though.
   
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Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell

[Alex]

I have been on this mailing list since 9/14/2007 and since then have 
received about 6100 emails from this mailing list. Effectively 
comprising half of my inbox from that time. So yes, lots of spam. 
However when it involves trolling Msleeper it is always wanted.

On 2/17/2010 6:56 PM, Scott wrote:
 Can you guys just shut the heck up and only post if you need help with an
 issue about the topic at hand (Valve servers). No more I’m leaving emails
 please, nobody cares, just keep this list reserved for server news and help.
 I have been on this list for 6 years and have only made a few posts because
 I know it’s annoying to get your inbox spammed (its terribly annoying on my
 iphone inbox) with useless replies. This list has and keeps being incredibly
 useful though. Lets please just stay on topic from here on out.
 -Scott S.

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Shawn P. Zipaydigitalz...@gmail.comwrote:


 Whoa, Munra.  Let's not get crazy here.


 Shawn P. Zipay
 Community Manager

 MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com
 CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net
 Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com


   On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Munramu...@anbservers.net  wrote:

  
 List of 12 year olds

 And you really list FTP as one if your technical skills?  And then it's

 not
  
 even mark as *Good Working knowledge.  I think I'll take Msleeper advice
 over yours.


 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick

 Shelley
  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:52 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to

 hell
  
 it's so beautiful to see how despised you still are sleeper - after a

 year
  
 away from this list, i'm crying with happiness.

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 Regards,

 Patrick Shelley

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Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell

[Alex]

Sorry to see you go, however I was hoping this was an email sent by 
msleeper

On 2/16/2010 12:35 PM, Ook wrote:
 I know this will make some of you as happy as can be

 This list has unfortunately ceased to serve the valuable service that it
 once did. All the whine whine last night about a simple question related
 to a server and its community did bring in a few helpful responses, but
 mostly whine whine wtf omg whine whine. So, after nine years on this
 list, the time has come for me to leave. Good bye to the few helpful
 people left here, it's been a real blast. The rest of you can go to hell.

 I leave the thwack stick in the hands of whoever wants it. It doesn't
 seem to work well anymore, but it might still have some entertainment value.

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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Alex]

I am extremely offended by your use of Christmas instead of happy 
holidays. I find it offensive that you would generalize everyone as 
being Christian. [/sarcasm]

Have a good one too! :)
I'm actually surprised and glad about how people aren't as politically 
incorrect this year.

1nsane wrote:
 I celebrate gift day, one of the best days of the year. Gifts are important
 in my world.

 Anyway, happy Yule.

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote:

   
 Yup, off topic at an extreme level. Also lol @ assuming everyone on the
 list celebrates christmas.


 On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 22:40 +0100, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
 
 This may be offtopic at the Extreme level, but i just want to wish
 everybody here on the mailing list a merry Christmas, and a happy new
 year!

 Best regards

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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Alex]

Exactly good sir, If someone says happy Hanukkah to me, I see no reason 
to be offended despite me being Christian.

Craig H wrote:
 Merry Christmas. Death to political correctness.

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Don Williams d...@precdata.com wrote:

   
 Correct terminology is happy holidays from whendarknessfalls.org. /
 advert

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:56 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I celebrate gift day, one of the best days of the year. Gifts are
 important
 in my world.

 Anyway, happy Yule.

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
   
 wrote:
 
 Yup, off topic at an extreme level. Also lol @ assuming everyone on
 the
 list celebrates christmas.


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 This may be offtopic at the Extreme level, but i just want to wish
 everybody here on the mailing list a merry Christmas, and a happy
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 year!

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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Alex]

That offends me, it is definitely not Friday yet.

Rusty Bower wrote:
 Happy Friday?

 I don't think that can offend anyone

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2009, at 15:28, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

   
 Damn straight ;) Merry Xmas all!

 Thanks,
 - Saul.


 2009/12/24 Craig H robolea...@gmail.com

 
 Merry Christmas. Death to political correctness.

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Don Williams d...@precdata.com  
 wrote:

   
 Correct terminology is happy holidays from whendarknessfalls.org. /
 advert

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:56 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I celebrate gift day, one of the best days of the year. Gifts are
 important
 in my world.

 Anyway, happy Yule.

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, msleeper 
   
 mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
   
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 Yup, off topic at an extreme level. Also lol @ assuming everyone  
 on
 the
 list celebrates christmas.


 On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 22:40 +0100, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
 
 This may be offtopic at the Extreme level, but i just want to  
 wish
 everybody here on the mailing list a merry Christmas, and a happy
 new
 year!

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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Alex]

I don't think you understand the sarcasm in this 'thread'

Richard Green wrote:
 Ohh dear! A little Xmas spirit and still someone complains, now I understand
 what Valve are up against.


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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Alex]

Msleeper never fails in his trolling ventures. Unfortunately the snow 
did not hold him back this Christmas* season. I feel he is attempting to 
imitate the Grinch if not the Grinch himself. Now if this were to be 
true, we must find some way of increasing the size of his heart. Now I 
am unsure of the methodology that can be used, but if anyone has any 
suggestions, please let them be seen.

*(Or holiday if you deem it to be more politically correct)**
**(More 'Happy Obscure Holiday Reference' Humor)

msleeper wrote:
 Do seriously none of you have a forum or a website or something that you
 can spew this crap at? Nobody wants to read each of you putting your
 snarky comments in about political correctness or your attempts at witty
 Happy Obscure Holiday Reference humor.

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

[Alex]

I don't believe it. The updates are far too buggy.

Saul Rennison wrote:
 You test? Wow.


 Thanks,
 - Saul.


 2009/12/22 Scott scottish2c...@gmail.com

   
 yay cant wait


 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com
 
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 testing
 
 goes well, we'll be releasing it later today.

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

Yet no client crash fixing, im disappointed.

Jason Ruymen wrote:
 A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run 
 hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

 - Added an equipped tag to currently equipped items in the Backpack and 
 Crafting screens
 - Fixed the TFBots not reacting correctly to stun effects
 - Fixed the Heavy picking up his own thrown sandvich if it was thrown while 
 running forward
 - Fixed Pyros not getting the proper kill icon for kills with deflected 
 Direct Hit rockets
 - Fixed the player keeping their rage setting when the Buff Banner isn't 
 equipped
 - Fixed resupply cabinet not clearing the rage and the buff status effect
 - Fixed the Buff Banner not working when +reload has been forced in console
 - Fixed the motion blur on charging Demomen not always drawing
 - Fixed the Direct Hit mini-critting enemies submerged in water
 - Fixed the Chargin' Targe's crit not working on servers with 
 tf_weapon_criticals 0
 - Capped the amount of overhealing from taking heads to the player's max 
 buffed health
 - Updated the Gunboats to absorb damage from any self-inflicted rocket blast 
 that doesn't hurt another player
 - Updated the Scottish Resistance to detonate bombs near the player's feet 
 (in addition to what it normally detonates). This enables sticky jumping with 
 this weapon.
 - Updated the Baseball and Jarate HUD indicators to stay on screen when full

 Crafting improvements:
 - Spy's unlockable PDAs can now be smelted into scrap metal
 - Recipes can no longer produce items matching any of the items used in the 
 crafting
 - Added some new recipes

 Achievement fixes:
  - Fixed the Ride of the Valkartie Soldier achievement being earned by 
 Soldiers on the defending team
  - Fixed the Gorky Parked Heavy achievement being incremented by committing 
 suicide on a control point
  - Fixed several Scout achievements that were broken by the new type of bat 
 stun
  - Fixed the Ghastly Gibus Grab achievement not awarding the hat correctly
  - Updated the Big Pharma (Medic) and Division of Labor (Heavy) 
 achievements to be 10 kills in a single life
  - Updated the Ubi concordia, ibi victoria Medic achievement to only be 3 
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

Same, only for me the game is virtually unplayable.

Flubber wrote:
 Still client crashes (got 2, around 15 since the demo update) and i've never
 crash before.

 2009/12/23 Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org

   
 The game launches :) Success!!!

 But, everyone's on different hardware, different mods, i'd image it's
 very difficult to test everything.

 Alex wrote:
 
 That makes me wonder what they mean when they say test

 François wrote:

   
 Here too.

 2009/12/23 Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com:


 
 as soon as we got this update the server and everyone on it crashed -.-



   
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

This is the most broken update yet. I continue to crash every single map 
change and sometimes randomly ingame. So many others with this all 
running win7 x64 too. Nice valve, nice.

Flubber wrote:
 Just love the achievement.
 Got 5 get eyelander
 Got 11 get nothing
 Got 14 get Crappy Sticky Launcher

 hmmm, something wrong here.

 2009/12/19 Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com

   
 Thank you.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas
 Hastings
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:54 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 Updating Installation
 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 122 to version 123

 62.68%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
 98.42%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
 98.49%  source/orangebox\tf\maps\graphs\ctf_2fort.ain
 99.52%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\modevents.res
 99.99%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\tf_english.txt
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\tf_weapon_minigun.ctx

 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 44 to version 45

 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\steam.inf
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\materials\backpack\crafting\token_pda.vmt

 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'OB Dedicated Server' version 22

 On 12/18/2009 9:44 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:
 
 Anybody have the list of changed files? I usually save it, but I goofed
   
 this
 
 time.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:44 PM
 To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server
   
 mailing
 
 list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
 hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

 - Fixed a client crash related to arrows
 - Fixed a server crash related to items
 - Fixed a server crash caused by the Demo taunt kill
 - Fixed a server crash caused by using the Equalizer
 - Fixed client ragdoll commands resulting in ragdolls standing around
 - Restored the missing point_teleport entity
 - Fixed stats and achievements being tracked while using sv_cheats
 - Fixed Spies being able to build dispensers
 - Fixed clients not fixing up inventory items in bad backpack positions
 - Added a new chat message when players craft an item
 - Fixed Bloody Merry and Second Eye achievements being achieved
 incorrectly
 - Updated the description of the Bravehurt achievement
 - Fixed Blutsauger attributes
 - Fixed the Direct Hit having an incorrect short range damage curve (now
 matches the normal Rocket Launcher curve)
 - Fixed the Spy's unlockables watches using the wrong consume/recharge
   
 rates
 
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

I have a thread that has been up since the whole MOTD crash has been 
going on. It was fixed for a while, I bumped it. You can see some of the 
crashes that I have had in there. You guys should post there too with 
your OS.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=874752page=12

Jeff Sugar wrote:
 : I'm glad I'm not the only one who has that

 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com wrote:

   
 This is the most broken update yet. I continue to crash every single map
 change and sometimes randomly ingame. So many others with this all
 running win7 x64 too. Nice valve, nice.

 Flubber wrote:
 
 Just love the achievement.
 Got 5 get eyelander
 Got 11 get nothing
 Got 14 get Crappy Sticky Launcher

 hmmm, something wrong here.

 2009/12/19 Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com


   
 Thank you.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas
 Hastings
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:54 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 Updating Installation
 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 122 to version 123

 62.68%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
 98.42%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
 98.49%  source/orangebox\tf\maps\graphs\ctf_2fort.ain
 99.52%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\modevents.res
 99.99%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\tf_english.txt
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\tf_weapon_minigun.ctx

 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 44 to version 45

 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\steam.inf
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\materials\backpack\crafting\token_pda.vmt

 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'OB Dedicated Server' version 22

 On 12/18/2009 9:44 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:

 
 Anybody have the list of changed files? I usually save it, but I goofed

   
 this

 
 time.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:44 PM
 To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server

   
 mailing

 
 list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
 hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

 - Fixed a client crash related to arrows
 - Fixed a server crash related to items
 - Fixed a server crash caused by the Demo taunt kill
 - Fixed a server crash caused by using the Equalizer
 - Fixed client ragdoll commands resulting in ragdolls standing around
 - Restored the missing point_teleport entity
 - Fixed stats and achievements being tracked while using sv_cheats
 - Fixed Spies being able to build dispensers
 - Fixed clients not fixing up inventory items in bad backpack positions
 - Added a new chat message when players craft an item
 - Fixed Bloody Merry and Second Eye achievements being achieved
 incorrectly
 - Updated the description of the Bravehurt achievement
 - Fixed Blutsauger attributes
 - Fixed the Direct Hit having an incorrect short range damage curve
   
 (now
 
 matches the normal Rocket Launcher curve)
 - Fixed the Spy's unlockables watches using the wrong consume/recharge

   
 rates

 
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Alex]

anyone speak russian here?


Roman S wrote:
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Alex]

Makes complete sense. At least the Russian spammers are truthful about 
their intent.

msleeper wrote:
 Yeah it says:

 YO DAWG I HERD U LIKE SPAM SO WE REPLIED TO A SPAM POST WITH A SPAM POST
 SO YOUR INBOX CAN BE FULL OF BULLSHIT


 On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 18:33 -0600, Alex wrote:
   
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Re: [hlds] Its the law!

[Alex]

They got what was coming to them. Good for him :)

1nsane wrote:
 Under certain conditions It is possible to download files from the server.
 Server.cfg being a good one.

 Also the reverse is true.

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, JäKë T can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote:

   
 It's just cracking rcon password, then they set it to private and change
 the name.
 So just having rcon locker and a nice password fixes it.


 
 From: i...@ronny-schedel.de
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:32:24 +0100
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Its the law!

 The big question is: how is it done? Let's hope there is backdoor in the
 fake player app and not a bug in the server code.

   
 http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4728/71956486.jpg
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Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server

[Alex]

Hey,

From what I can see, it should be +ip and you need sv_lan 1 in server.cfg

These should fix it.

Regards,
Alex

--
From: Sami Hiltunen sami.hiltu...@spp.fi
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:04 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server

 Hello!

 I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local
 datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my
 Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs
 here?). First off, here are my specs:

 MSI P965 Neo
 Intel E6600 2.4 GHz
 Geforce 8800 GTX
 2 GB RAM
 500 GB HD
 650 W Chieftec PSU
 Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition

 The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server
 through the console with following command:
 [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code]

 It says Connection failed after 10 retries.

 Here's the server config and launching .bat:

 [co...@echo off
 cls
 echo Protecting srcds from crashes...
 echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the
 server window and press Y and then Enter
 :l4d
 echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started.
 start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map
 l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72
 -port 27015
 echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting
 goto l4d
 [/code]

 That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG:

 [code]hostname myservername // Serverin nimi
 rcon_password mypw // RCON Salasana

 mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä
 sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä
 sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot

 setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011
 setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011
 hostport 27015
 sv_lan 0
 sv_region 4
 sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0
 sv_search_key mysearchkey

 sv_voiceenable 1
 sv_alltalk 0
 [/code]

 What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off.



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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

[Alex]

Exactly what I was saying. +1 for you

Kyle Sanderson wrote:
 Oh hey look my buddy Fred knows I love playing as a medic with him so he
 invited me to his elitist Medic Healing Steam Group. However little did Bob
 know that two people in the group were hacking so now we have a dilemma on
 our hands. Do we shitlist the entire group via the Parser? or do we say
 forget it? Why would we punish the entire group which has 1.2K members just
 because of some shoddy description, which has since been changed and because
 of two members.

 Stick to actual hacking groups... pretty soon we are going to find ourselves
 banning the TeamFortress2 Game group just because a member of myg0t or Team
 Roomba or *Insert kiddish name here* is in there. This is getting absolutely
 ridiculous the amount of negligence that people have these days. Such as
 banning some Peer 2 Peer groups because Oh ma gawd they are haxorzzz!1221,
 but that is another story entirely.
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

[Alex]

Thats not griefing any more than having someone in your server who 
chooses not to heal anyone but his friend's... They aren't ruining the 
game for anyone else, if you think someone not healing you all of a 
sudden means that they are griefing, get in check with reality.

msleeper wrote:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HealersAgainstHalos
 Medic griefing group.


 On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:19 +0100, Philip Bembridge wrote:
   
 I would happy to mirror it on my home server for a little bit if you would
 like.But someone would have to email me it first :-)

 2009/9/1 Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com

 
 How can they have both clan servers and hacking sites and still be
 legit? What the hell, I have played on their servers before. Looks like
 I will be steering clear.

 Violent Crimes wrote:
   
 Hacking Community. They develop hacks for multiple games.


 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/187ci

 http://steamcommunity.com/actions/Search?K=187ci

 P. Bhandal wrote:

 
 E-mailed it to you as an attachment. Let me know if you don't receive
   
 it.
   
 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com
   
 wrote:
   

   
 Sorry to bump this but can anyone mirror the
 steam_group_parser.exe
 http://69.4.224.185/steam_group_parser/steam_group_parser.exefile
 that D4rkR0w wrote? His box seems to be down.

 Kyle.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:



 
 Wow, amazing.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Nightbox 
   
 alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
   
   
 wrote:

 I pwned him by rebooting his computer xD

 2009/8/12 Octo octodhd_h...@monkeyrings.com



 
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/colond

 Opening paragraph:

 The Colon D Clan is an unbelievably cool, private, invite-only


   
 griefing


 
 clan for Valve Software's Team Fortress 2, along with various other


   
 games,


 
 led by ??n??gger :D, oreo :D, and Greaser Dan :D. Our clan was


   
 originally


 
 founded sometime in the late summer of 1947 by famous porn star


   
 Richard


 
 Steinmann, Rice Factoryman Andrew Tran, and Milkbagger Benvenuto


   
 Garisto


   
 to


 
 battle the Native Ugandans.




 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:27:26PM +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote:


   
 Can't you read? I said why I posted those when I first did it.

 Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using


 
 A2C_PRINT.


 
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb;

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Kyle Sanderson


 
 kyle.l...@gmail.com


 
 wrote:


   
 I'm in a couple community groups myself for some Torrent Sites,


   
 Should


 
 I


   
 leave and warn everyone in the group that some server admins are


   
 that


   
 ignorant? Seriously? The Myg0t groups and actual hacking groups


   
 that's


 
 a no


   
 brainier and you will have everyone's support here. But banning


   
 community


   
 groups who share a common interest that has nothing to do with


   
 games


   
 what so


   
 ever? Please, it is the same as banning The Teamwork Movement


   
 group


 
 from


   
 your server...

 Kyle.

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, D4rKr0W dark...@dpi-clan.org


   
 wrote:


   
 Cc2iscooL ha scritto:


 
 Haxxor witch hunt.
 OH EM GEE IN HAXOR GROUP MUST BE HAXOR LOL BAN.

 I prefer to wait until they actually do that kind of thing, as


   
 some


 
 groups


 
 like that just do mass invites and/or people are just retarded


   
 and


   
 never


   
 get


 
 access to the cheats they're looking for.

 Not to mention stuff like Kyle here. Warez =/= hack users.

 Most of the guys that you're banning probably don't even use
 hacks. Oh well, if you want to be lazy I guess this thread is


   
 good


   
 for


   
 you.


 
 Like right now I
 could make a totally awesome group teh computer haxors on


   
 Steam


 
 and


 
 you guys would ban me even if I never used hacks and the group

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

[Alex]

And again, one of the problems with group banning is that some people 
may be in the group with no intention of griefing and are just there as 
they were invited etc. Stick to banning hacking groups.

msleeper wrote:
 Well it looks like they've changed the group description unfortunately,
 but it's written up and down in their like 900 page thread on the Steam
 boards that their intention is to disrupt gameplay and teamwork. That's
 a pretty text-book definition of griefing if you ask me.

 The whole point of this (awesome, long standing) thread is to point out
 groups that people think are doing bad things. Nobody is forcing anyone
 to blindly accept group banning anyone here, and nobody is saying it has
 to be permanent. In a week or 2 this whole halo craze is going to blow
 over, so that's how long I've set my bans for. I think these people
 represent a threat to the game in the same way Team Romba did months ago
 when they were super popular at causing problems in game. Same result,
 different means.

 And for the record I think that anyone who only heals his 1 or 2 friends
 is a pretty useless team member and I'll happily
 slap/slay/blind/drug/whatever that Medic all day long. But that's really
 not the point here.


 On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:27 -0500, Alex wrote:
   
 Thats not griefing any more than having someone in your server who 
 chooses not to heal anyone but his friend's... They aren't ruining the 
 game for anyone else, if you think someone not healing you all of a 
 sudden means that they are griefing, get in check with reality.

 msleeper wrote:
 
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HealersAgainstHalos
 Medic griefing group.


 On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:19 +0100, Philip Bembridge wrote:
   
   
 I would happy to mirror it on my home server for a little bit if you would
 like.But someone would have to email me it first :-)

 2009/9/1 Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com

 
 
 How can they have both clan servers and hacking sites and still be
 legit? What the hell, I have played on their servers before. Looks like
 I will be steering clear.

 Violent Crimes wrote:
   
   
 Hacking Community. They develop hacks for multiple games.


 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/187ci

 http://steamcommunity.com/actions/Search?K=187ci

 P. Bhandal wrote:

 
 
 E-mailed it to you as an attachment. Let me know if you don't receive
   
   
 it.
   
   
 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com
   
   
 wrote:
   
   
   
   
 Sorry to bump this but can anyone mirror the
 steam_group_parser.exe
 http://69.4.224.185/steam_group_parser/steam_group_parser.exefile
 that D4rkR0w wrote? His box seems to be down.

 Kyle.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:



 
 
 Wow, amazing.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Nightbox 
   
   
 alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
   
   
   
   
 wrote:

 I pwned him by rebooting his computer xD

 2009/8/12 Octo octodhd_h...@monkeyrings.com



 
 
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/colond

 Opening paragraph:

 The Colon D Clan is an unbelievably cool, private, invite-only


   
   
 griefing


 
 
 clan for Valve Software's Team Fortress 2, along with various other


   
   
 games,


 
 
 led by ??n??gger :D, oreo :D, and Greaser Dan :D. Our clan was


   
   
 originally


 
 
 founded sometime in the late summer of 1947 by famous porn star


   
   
 Richard


 
 
 Steinmann, Rice Factoryman Andrew Tran, and Milkbagger Benvenuto


   
   
 Garisto


   
   
 to


 
 
 battle the Native Ugandans.




 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:27:26PM +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote:


   
   
 Can't you read? I said why I posted those when I first did it.

 Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using


 
 
 A2C_PRINT.


 
 
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb;

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Kyle Sanderson


 
 
 kyle.l...@gmail.com


 
 
 wrote:


   
   
 I'm in a couple community groups myself for some Torrent Sites,


   
   
 Should

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

[Alex]

How can they have both clan servers and hacking sites and still be 
legit? What the hell, I have played on their servers before. Looks like 
I will be steering clear.

Violent Crimes wrote:
 Hacking Community. They develop hacks for multiple games.


 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/187ci

 http://steamcommunity.com/actions/Search?K=187ci

 P. Bhandal wrote:
   
 E-mailed it to you as an attachment. Let me know if you don't receive it.

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 
 Sorry to bump this but can anyone mirror the
 steam_group_parser.exe
 http://69.4.224.185/steam_group_parser/steam_group_parser.exefile
 that D4rkR0w wrote? His box seems to be down.

 Kyle.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 
   
 Wow, amazing.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
   
 
 wrote:
 
 I pwned him by rebooting his computer xD

 2009/8/12 Octo octodhd_h...@monkeyrings.com

 
   
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/colond

 Opening paragraph:

 The Colon D Clan is an unbelievably cool, private, invite-only
   
 
 griefing
 
   
 clan for Valve Software's Team Fortress 2, along with various other
   
 
 games,
 
   
 led by «nägger :D, oreo :D, and Greaser Dan :D. Our clan was
   
 
 originally
 
   
 founded sometime in the late summer of 1947 by famous porn star
   
 
 Richard
 
   
 Steinmann, Rice Factoryman Andrew Tran, and Milkbagger Benvenuto
   
 
 Garisto
   
 
 to
 
   
 battle the Native Ugandans.




 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:27:26PM +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote:
   
 
 Can't you read? I said why I posted those when I first did it.

 Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using
 
   
 A2C_PRINT.
 
   
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb;

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Kyle Sanderson
 
   
 kyle.l...@gmail.com
 
   
 wrote:
   
 
 I'm in a couple community groups myself for some Torrent Sites,
   
 
 Should
 
   
 I
   
 
 leave and warn everyone in the group that some server admins are
   
 
 that
   
 
 ignorant? Seriously? The Myg0t groups and actual hacking groups
   
 
 that's
 
   
 a no
   
 
 brainier and you will have everyone's support here. But banning
   
 
 community
   
 
 groups who share a common interest that has nothing to do with
   
 
 games
   
 
 what so
   
 
 ever? Please, it is the same as banning The Teamwork Movement
   
 
 group
 
   
 from
   
 
 your server...

 Kyle.

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, D4rKr0W dark...@dpi-clan.org
   
 
 wrote:
   
 
 Cc2iscooL ha scritto:
 
   
 Haxxor witch hunt.
 OH EM GEE IN HAXOR GROUP MUST BE HAXOR LOL BAN.

 I prefer to wait until they actually do that kind of thing, as
   
 
 some
 
   
 groups
 
   
 like that just do mass invites and/or people are just retarded
   
 
 and
   
 
 never
   
 
 get
 
   
 access to the cheats they're looking for.

 Not to mention stuff like Kyle here. Warez =/= hack users.

 Most of the guys that you're banning probably don't even use
 hacks. Oh well, if you want to be lazy I guess this thread is
   
 
 good
   
 
 for
   
 
 you.
 
   
 Like right now I
 could make a totally awesome group teh computer haxors on
   
 
 Steam
 
   
 and
 
   
 you guys would ban me even if I never used hacks and the group
   
 
 was
   
 
 just for the fun of it.
   
 
 Whether these guys actually have bad intentions or are just
 
   
 plain
 
   
 dumb,
   
 
 i don't really care, both of these are good enough excuses not
 
   
 to
 
   
 want
 
   
 them ruining my games, assuming they'll ever join the servers i
 
 

Re: [hlds] TF2 Holding Players

[Alex]

Oh god, not these lulz again.

Phillip Vector wrote:
 Yeah. It's not like they are honeypot servers afterall.

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:17 PM, msleepermslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
   
 I don't think any of those server tracking sites are reliable,
 especially not if you're comparing them to the actual server browser.


 On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 18:06 -0400, Violent Crimes wrote:
 
 Neg. Game-monitor doesn't show them as being in the server. But they do
 show up in teh server listing when you look via steam.


 msleeper wrote:
   
 Oh is THAT what is causing that? I thought HLSW was being buggy, I know
 they've been on the update craze. I wonder if these ghost players work
 towards our server rank.


 On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 04:41 -0400, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:

 
 Cool, built in fake players.

 Sneaky sneaky!

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:19 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Holding Players

 From 13/08/09 update:
  - Added response caching for some server queries to help reduce the CPU
 load from DOS attacks.

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Violent Crimes 
 violentcri...@convictgaming.com wrote:


   
 Anyone notice since the update that you will have random players in your
 server but there time never changes. Right now I have 5 players in my
 server even though the server shows 4/32 none of them are actually in
 the server.

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Re: [hlds] TF2/L4D Updates Available

[Alex]

Finally a MOTD crash fix! Thanks, I and many on the forums have been 
waiting for this.

Jason Ruymen wrote:
 Optional updates for Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead and their engine binaries 
 are now available.  Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The 
 specific changes include:

 Left 4 Dead Engine:
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed files to be uploaded to the server at 
 arbitrary locations in the file system
 - Fixed a server crash caused by a client packet claiming to be an HLTV 
 client when HLTV is disabled on the server
 - Fixed a server crash caused by spoofing a client disconnect message
 - Fixed a server crash caused by sending malformed reliable subchannel data

 Left 4 Dead:
 - Novint Falcon support is now enabled by default


 Orange Box Engine:
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed files to be uploaded to the server at 
 arbitrary locations in the file system.
 - Fixed a server crash caused by a client packet claiming to be an HLTV 
 client when HLTV is disabled on the server
 - Fixed a server crash caused by spoofing a client disconnect message
 - Fixed a server crash caused by sending malformed reliable subchannel data
 - Fixed a server crash related to unbounded settings on some convars

 Team Fortress 2:
 - Bullet spread algorithm changed to fire a bullet right down the crosshair 
 under these circumstances:
  - The first bullet of a spread weapon (except for rapid fire spread weapons 
 like the minigun)
  - The first bullet of a non-spread weapon if it's been 1.25 seconds since 
 firing
 - Added a Disable HTML MOTDs option to the multiplayer-advanced dialog
  - Added motdfile_text convar to servers, which allows them to specify a 
 text file that's shown instead of the HTML MOTD to clients who've turned on 
 this option
 - Fixed radius damage not tracing out of enemies when the explosion occurs 
 within them
  - Fixes rockets  grenades doing no splash damage when fired point blank 
 into enemies
 - Added missing snowpuff particles for DX8 players (honest)
 - Restored LOD for the Demoman player model
 - Fixed being able to alt-fire with the fists while stunned as a Heavy
 - Fixed CTF_Sawmill not ending the map when mp_timelimit hits during the 
 middle of a round
 - Fixed the The Big Hurt achievement not being awarded for players who 
 already have the required count
 - Fixed sv_pure not reloading the map's custom particle file
  - Custom particle effects contained within maps must now be placed in the 
 \particles directory
 - Fixed another case where items weren't being validated properly in class 
 loadout slots

 Community requests:
 - Removed centerprint texts for TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode
 - Changed TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode capture reward from 10 kills to 1 
 capture
 - Added OnCapTeam1 and OnCapTeam2 outputs to the item_teamflag and 
 func_capturezone entities
 - Fixed HUD carried image for the TF_FLAGTYPE_ATTACK_DEFEND and 
 TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game modes using the wrong team color
 - Fixed dropped flag for the TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode using the wrong 
 skin

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Re: [hlds] TF2/L4D Updates Available

[Alex]

Maybe just rent a BOX where you can have full control over every aspect 
of the server. We do that, and we can run as many servers as we like.

Nightbox wrote:
 Im not whining about update, im whining about update procedure.

 As player i like those updates as much as you. As Server administrator its
 making my life harder.

 I have to contact my host company and tell them that a new update hsa been
 released, and then wait for their answer, or even worse if their manager is
 in summer break.

 2009/8/22 Nicholas Hastings nshasti...@gmail.com

   
 I've had maybe all of 4 whole posts on here, but I felt the need to come
 out and say you are an idiot for bitching about getting exploit fixes
 along with all the other fixes lately (even though some issues stemmed
 from a FREE content update). Life is rough.


 Nightbox wrote:
 
 I'm not joking, but its a pain to update the server if you dont have
   
 direct
 
 acces to it and have to wait for someone else.

 2009/8/22 Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com


   
 Thank you,
 Alec Sanger
 P: 248.941.3813
 F: 313.286.8945




 
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 To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com;

   
 hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com

 
 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:25:30 -0700
 Subject: [hlds] TF2/L4D Updates Available

 Optional updates for Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead and their engine

   
 binaries are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the
 
 update.
 
 The specific changes include:

 
 Left 4 Dead Engine:
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed files to be uploaded to the server at

   
 arbitrary locations in the file system

 
 - Fixed a server crash caused by a client packet claiming to be an HLTV

   
 client when HLTV is disabled on the server

 
 - Fixed a server crash caused by spoofing a client disconnect message
 - Fixed a server crash caused by sending malformed reliable subchannel

   
 data

 
 Left 4 Dead:
 - Novint Falcon support is now enabled by default


 Orange Box Engine:
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed files to be uploaded to the server at

   
 arbitrary locations in the file system.

 
 - Fixed a server crash caused by a client packet claiming to be an HLTV

   
 client when HLTV is disabled on the server

 
 - Fixed a server crash caused by spoofing a client disconnect message
 - Fixed a server crash caused by sending malformed reliable subchannel

   
 data

 
 - Fixed a server crash related to unbounded settings on some convars

 Team Fortress 2:
 - Bullet spread algorithm changed to fire a bullet right down the

   
 crosshair under these circumstances:

 
 - The first bullet of a spread weapon (except for rapid fire spread

   
 weapons like the minigun)

 
 - The first bullet of a non-spread weapon if it's been1.25 seconds
   
 since
 
 firing

 
 - Added a Disable HTML MOTDs option to the multiplayer-advanced
   
 dialog
 
 - Added motdfile_text convar to servers, which allows them to specify
   
 a
 
 text file that's shown instead of the HTML MOTD to clients who've turned
 
 on
 
 this option

 
 - Fixed radius damage not tracing out of enemies when the explosion

   
 occurs within them

 
 - Fixes rockets  grenades doing no splash damage when fired point
   
 blank
 
 into enemies

 
 - Added missing snowpuff particles for DX8 players (honest)
 - Restored LOD for the Demoman player model
 - Fixed being able to alt-fire with the fists while stunned as a Heavy
 - Fixed CTF_Sawmill not ending the map when mp_timelimit hits during
   
 the
 
 middle of a round

 
 - Fixed the The Big Hurt achievement not being awarded for players
   
 who
 
 already have the required count

 
 - Fixed sv_pure not reloading the map's custom particle file
 - Custom particle effects contained within maps must now be placed in
   
 the
 
 \particles directory

 
 - Fixed another case where items weren't being validated properly in

   
 class loadout slots

 
 Community requests:
 - Removed centerprint texts for TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode
 - Changed TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode capture reward from 10 kills

   
 to 1 capture

 
 - Added OnCapTeam1 and OnCapTeam2 outputs to the item_teamflag and

   
 func_capturezone entities

 
 - Fixed HUD carried image for the TF_FLAGTYPE_ATTACK_DEFEND and

   
 TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game modes using the wrong team color

 
 - Fixed dropped flag for the TF_FLAGTYPE_INVADE CTF game mode using the

   
 wrong skin

 
 Jason


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Re: [hlds] Tripwire website down?

[Alex]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I assumed the other site could have 
been what you were referring to as it had to do with servers...


Richard Eid wrote:
 http://www.tripwireinteractive.com/

 -Richard Eid


 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com wrote:

   
 Assuming you mean tripwire.com, it works fine.

 Hutch wrote:
 
 is their site down for you folks as well?
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Re: [hlds] Tripwire website down?

[Alex]

Assuming you mean tripwire.com, it works fine.

Hutch wrote:
 is their site down for you folks as well?
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[hlds] Multiple SourceTV's to the one server?

[Alex]

Hey,

 

Is it possible to run Multiple Source TV's to the 1 Game Server? Looking at
running Source TV's from different locations, with different delays (for
Shout Casting events etc)

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Re: [hlds] dDos attacs

[Alex]

LOL

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2009 7:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] dDos attacs

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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Ryan Batchelor ry-ry...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Hey T2 i seen your name come up and it rememded of a kid i play cs with
 back in eary 2000, he had a clan name [RED] if that was u write back

  Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:32:58 -0400
  From: terminat...@gmail.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] dDos attacs
 
  Numerous things could be the cause here. It could be an actual DDoS
 attack
  from a botnet or a few people who have a decent connection DDoSing
 you.
  Or it could be your provider having connection issues (unreliable
  datacenter?). If you rent a server from a GSP, speak to them about the
 lag.
  It could be their datacenter or them actually doing something with the
  server to cause the lag. But if you own a box or rent a dedi from a
  datacenter, speak to them about the lag. They may have to mitigate the
 DDoS
  attack to get your server running normally. If the box is still
 discoverable
  via lists and the server isn't down totally, it's definatly NOT a DDoS
  attack.
 
  Try and remote desktop or SSH in and watch the CPU of the server. If you
 can
  maintain a connection to the box without disconnecting or finding
 noticable
  lag in response times, then it's not a DDoS, instead some script kiddie
 shit
  that you can get rid of with that plugin. Hope that helps?
 
  On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:23 PM, [??R] The-/iller 
 kil...@righttorule.com
   wrote:
 
   We were getting tcp rcon spammed, try wireshark to see what theyre
   spamming it will point it out pretty easily with malformed packets, if
   its just TCP 27015 block that, you will lose rcon but save your
server.
  
   Cc2iscooL wrote:
Unfortunately people are finding ways around this plugin using basic
 UDP
packet spamming. This plugin will block the script kiddies but not
 the
   more
advanced users.
   
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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
   
Tony Paloma has a plugin that should help out.
   
http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Downloads
   
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Subject: [hlds] dDos attacs
   
our server i under some heavy ddos attacks every 45min to an hour.
 any
one know a good method on how to prevent this from happening or
make
them less frequent
   
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

Exactly... GJ valve..

Regarding the milestones, they may be hidden to prevent achievement 
unlocker tool from using it.

Flubber wrote:
 That's just another great update, no problem for downloading it was even
 pretty fast, but no master connection so noone can test any new weapons, so
 borring...

 2009/5/22 Mike O'Laughlen molaugh...@gmail.com

   
 Yah, know, I just realized what you were saying.  Hrm, still the demoman
 would have to make it to the spawn and place all those stickies... then
 move
 to the 1st floor Yeah it would not be as bad as you think even with the
 bad camera clipping code.

 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Mike O'Laughlen molaugh...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
   
 I've misunderstood something.


 That.

 Let's wait and see what the update has in store for us.

 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Donnie Newlove 
   
 donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Sorry, I don't think I'm sure what you mean.

 Well, imagine this scenario. A demoman is camping the main entrance to
 2fort with stickies all over the place and standing on the second
 floor with his back against the wall (and against the entrance). Now
 he can taunt with close to no risk of an enemy getting to him while he
 can see anyone trying to get in the main entrance and detonating while
 still taunting. The demoman will not even be in the victims sight.
 They might as well have unlocked r_drawothermodels for the demoman, or
 hopefully I've misunderstood something.

 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Mike O'Laughlen molaugh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I believe the functionality is that you can start a taunt then right
   
 click
 
 to detonate.  Plus taunts take 5 seconds to complete, so even if it
   
 were
 
 the
 
 other way around it wouldn't be as effective as not taunting and just
 right-clicking.

 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Donnie Newlove 
   
 donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Awesome, only one thing...

 * Demomen can now detonate their stickies while taunting

 That seems like a very, very, very bad thing to do. A demoman could
 place stickies around a corner and run the sticky taunt over and over
 again which is also very quiet while looking around the corner,
 basically giving him a wallhack. Or is that the idea?


 
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Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card?

[Alex]

Just uses the cpu/ram/hdd :)

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Subject: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card?

Does SrcDS make any use of a graphics card, or does it just use the
processor?

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Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

Nice find, although my clan is clear about wanting it on all the time.

MjrNuT wrote:
 We use SourceTV.  It is always on, but not always recording.  It only
 records when an admin sets it to, using the following SM plugin:

 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=69261

 It doesn't have the features that you're requesting, but it seems completely
 doable.  I don't know if the author is still supporting it and maybe the
 feature request be done there or modded by one of you fellas here.

 Either way, it would be helpful.



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 Message: 5
 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 23:08:22 -0500
 From: Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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 Message-ID: blu0-smtp48fdec9fac27c5efa8e39ef...@phx.gbl
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 Great thanks! Some features that would be nice:
 Start Sourcetv record with X number of players
 Record SourceTV demo at XX:XX Time
 Record SourceTV demo for XX:XX Time

 And not sure if it could be done in sourcemod (very unlikely) but is
 there a way to view time stamps within sourceTV demo files? Like say i
 want to see when XXX Player pwned the entire team and he said it happend
 around 5PM, is there a way to see in sourcetv what time it was when
 the even occured?

 StevoTVR wrote:
 
 Give me a few days and I can make a SM plugin to do that if you want. If
 anyone has any other features to add, just post them here.

 Alex wrote:

   
 Possibly, not sure how willing my clan would be to do something like
 that. I mean how much would a commission like this cost? With donations
 we barely get by sometimes for our game servers so thats always a
 
 problem.
 
 Jeff Sugar wrote:


 
 If you make any progress on this, please make it public. It would be
   
 nice to
 
 have SourceTV on all the time on our server, excepting when it's empty.
 There's no reason to have hours of demos from overnight when the server
   
 is
 
 empty. If you're willing to pay for the plugin to be made, I can point
   
 you
 
 towards some great coders that take on comissions. If you're serious
   
 about
 
 it, I'm sure we could probably find other admins to chip in with us so
   
 that
 
 it's a reasonable price for all involved. It could also include things
   
 like
 
 record demo of X length on demand, etc :)

 Just an idea!

 If you want to discuss it further in private, you can email me or
   
 contact me
 
 on GameSurge's IRC at #hlserveradmins

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Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

Thanks a ton! Ill see if we can get it up ASAP

StevoTVR wrote:
 Here is the plugin: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=92072

 If you have anything to add, post it in that thread. Hope this helps!

 Alex wrote:
   
 Nice find, although my clan is clear about wanting it on all the time.

 MjrNuT wrote:
   
 
 We use SourceTV.  It is always on, but not always recording.  It only
 records when an admin sets it to, using the following SM plugin:

 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=69261

 It doesn't have the features that you're requesting, but it seems completely
 doable.  I don't know if the author is still supporting it and maybe the
 feature request be done there or modded by one of you fellas here.

 Either way, it would be helpful.



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 Message: 5
 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 23:08:22 -0500
 From: Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)
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 Great thanks! Some features that would be nice:
 Start Sourcetv record with X number of players
 Record SourceTV demo at XX:XX Time
 Record SourceTV demo for XX:XX Time

 And not sure if it could be done in sourcemod (very unlikely) but is
 there a way to view time stamps within sourceTV demo files? Like say i
 want to see when XXX Player pwned the entire team and he said it happend
 around 5PM, is there a way to see in sourcetv what time it was when
 the even occured?

 StevoTVR wrote:
 
   
 
 Give me a few days and I can make a SM plugin to do that if you want. If
 anyone has any other features to add, just post them here.

 Alex wrote:

   
 
   
 Possibly, not sure how willing my clan would be to do something like
 that. I mean how much would a commission like this cost? With donations
 we barely get by sometimes for our game servers so thats always a
 
   
 
 problem.
 
   
 
 Jeff Sugar wrote:


 
   
 
 If you make any progress on this, please make it public. It would be
   
 
   
 nice to
 
   
 
 have SourceTV on all the time on our server, excepting when it's empty.
 There's no reason to have hours of demos from overnight when the server
   
 
   
 is
 
   
 
 empty. If you're willing to pay for the plugin to be made, I can point
   
 
   
 you
 
   
 
 towards some great coders that take on comissions. If you're serious
   
 
   
 about
 
   
 
 it, I'm sure we could probably find other admins to chip in with us so
   
 
   
 that
 
   
 
 it's a reasonable price for all involved. It could also include things
   
 
   
 like
 
   
 
 record demo of X length on demand, etc :)

 Just an idea!

 If you want to discuss it further in private, you can email me or
   
 
   
 contact me
 
   
 
 on GameSurge's IRC at #hlserveradmins

 -Atreus
   
 
   
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[hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

I've been wanting to record the gameplay in my clans server so we 
finally got sourcetv up and running using a hidden slot. The problem is 
they want it on all the time for administration purposes so im wondering 
if it is possible to toggle sourcetv recording based on player count or 
when the server has any number of people in it? Right not you need to 
sift through hours of emptiness to get to a game. Also, i've been 
wanting to get into video editing so I am wondering if any of you are 
good with Sourcetv and would know anything about using it to make 
videos. Thanks!


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Re: [hlds] Windows TF2 CPU Core Usage

[Alex]

Thats odd, my clans server uses 100% of the one core its on. Not sure 
our exact specs though. Oh, and were only 24 slots.

Ben B wrote:
 I've noticed a few people insisting that a full 32 slot tf2 server will only 
 use at most 5% of a cpu core.  How is this possible  I use linux servers, 
 and they always use 60-80% when 32 slots are full?

 Is there something terribly wrong with the linux version, or is something 
 wrong in the way they're interpreting their usage?



   
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Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

Possibly, not sure how willing my clan would be to do something like 
that. I mean how much would a commission like this cost? With donations 
we barely get by sometimes for our game servers so thats always a problem.

Jeff Sugar wrote:
 If you make any progress on this, please make it public. It would be nice to
 have SourceTV on all the time on our server, excepting when it's empty.
 There's no reason to have hours of demos from overnight when the server is
 empty. If you're willing to pay for the plugin to be made, I can point you
 towards some great coders that take on comissions. If you're serious about
 it, I'm sure we could probably find other admins to chip in with us so that
 it's a reasonable price for all involved. It could also include things like
 record demo of X length on demand, etc :)

 Just an idea!

 If you want to discuss it further in private, you can email me or contact me
 on GameSurge's IRC at #hlserveradmins

 -Atreus



 On 5/8/09, Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com wrote:
   
 I've been wanting to record the gameplay in my clans server so we
 finally got sourcetv up and running using a hidden slot. The problem is
 they want it on all the time for administration purposes so im wondering
 if it is possible to toggle sourcetv recording based on player count or
 when the server has any number of people in it? Right not you need to
 sift through hours of emptiness to get to a game. Also, i've been
 wanting to get into video editing so I am wondering if any of you are
 good with Sourcetv and would know anything about using it to make
 videos. Thanks!


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Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

Great thanks! Some features that would be nice:
Start Sourcetv record with X number of players
Record SourceTV demo at XX:XX Time
Record SourceTV demo for XX:XX Time

And not sure if it could be done in sourcemod (very unlikely) but is 
there a way to view time stamps within sourceTV demo files? Like say i 
want to see when XXX Player pwned the entire team and he said it happend 
around 5PM, is there a way to see in sourcetv what time it was when 
the even occured?

StevoTVR wrote:
 Give me a few days and I can make a SM plugin to do that if you want. If 
 anyone has any other features to add, just post them here.

 Alex wrote:
   
 Possibly, not sure how willing my clan would be to do something like 
 that. I mean how much would a commission like this cost? With donations 
 we barely get by sometimes for our game servers so thats always a problem.

 Jeff Sugar wrote:
   
 
 If you make any progress on this, please make it public. It would be nice to
 have SourceTV on all the time on our server, excepting when it's empty.
 There's no reason to have hours of demos from overnight when the server is
 empty. If you're willing to pay for the plugin to be made, I can point you
 towards some great coders that take on comissions. If you're serious about
 it, I'm sure we could probably find other admins to chip in with us so that
 it's a reasonable price for all involved. It could also include things like
 record demo of X length on demand, etc :)

 Just an idea!

 If you want to discuss it further in private, you can email me or contact me
 on GameSurge's IRC at #hlserveradmins

 -Atreus



 On 5/8/09, Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com wrote:
   
 
   
 I've been wanting to record the gameplay in my clans server so we
 finally got sourcetv up and running using a hidden slot. The problem is
 they want it on all the time for administration purposes so im wondering
 if it is possible to toggle sourcetv recording based on player count or
 when the server has any number of people in it? Right not you need to
 sift through hours of emptiness to get to a game. Also, i've been
 wanting to get into video editing so I am wondering if any of you are
 good with Sourcetv and would know anything about using it to make
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Re: [hlds] SourceTV (TF2 and CS:S)

[Alex]

I guess i should also mention it should allow ending of recordings at 
XX:XX O'clock or when the player count goes below X

StevoTVR wrote:
 Give me a few days and I can make a SM plugin to do that if you want. If 
 anyone has any other features to add, just post them here.

 Alex wrote:
   
 Possibly, not sure how willing my clan would be to do something like 
 that. I mean how much would a commission like this cost? With donations 
 we barely get by sometimes for our game servers so thats always a problem.

 Jeff Sugar wrote:
   
 
 If you make any progress on this, please make it public. It would be nice to
 have SourceTV on all the time on our server, excepting when it's empty.
 There's no reason to have hours of demos from overnight when the server is
 empty. If you're willing to pay for the plugin to be made, I can point you
 towards some great coders that take on comissions. If you're serious about
 it, I'm sure we could probably find other admins to chip in with us so that
 it's a reasonable price for all involved. It could also include things like
 record demo of X length on demand, etc :)

 Just an idea!

 If you want to discuss it further in private, you can email me or contact me
 on GameSurge's IRC at #hlserveradmins

 -Atreus



 On 5/8/09, Alex chewy_s...@hotmail.com wrote:
   
 
   
 I've been wanting to record the gameplay in my clans server so we
 finally got sourcetv up and running using a hidden slot. The problem is
 they want it on all the time for administration purposes so im wondering
 if it is possible to toggle sourcetv recording based on player count or
 when the server has any number of people in it? Right not you need to
 sift through hours of emptiness to get to a game. Also, i've been
 wanting to get into video editing so I am wondering if any of you are
 good with Sourcetv and would know anything about using it to make
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Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose

[Alex]

I would agree with you Aaron. Ive thought many times about removing 
myself from the list as daily when i get home i see about 40 unread 
messages. 75% of which are pointless.

Aaron Rapp wrote:
 Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these
 people from the list and implement moderators. 

 It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would get
 from this list. 

 Aaron Rapp


 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose

 Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull  
 out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am  
 quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I  
 should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick  
 around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pease can  
 I become a self centered prick like you? Please?

 On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:

   
 Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?

 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz h...@f0rkznet.net wrote:

 
 Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
 girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
 nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.

 On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:

   
 Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
 feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
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Re: [hlds] L4D Exploit/Grief Command

[Alex]

Could you email it to me msleeper, as I'm currently in #hlserveradmins and
you're not there due to the time difference.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 6:33 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Exploit/Grief Command

Oops that should be #hlserveradmins.

On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 16:29 -0400, msleeper wrote:
 Just want to make everyone aware of a exploit/grief command available in
 L4D. Unlike some others I'm not going to post it here on the list but if
 you want to hit me up on IRC, I'll be in #hldsadmins on gamesurge so you
 can put it in a Command Blocker. It's pretty bad, I recommend highly
 recommend everyone who cares to block it. I'm gonna pass this to Valve
 also so they can get it patched up.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] No email about L4D update?

[Alex]

just came through then :)

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To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:49 AM
Subject: [hlds] No email about L4D update?


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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

[Alex]

That was exactly what i was searching for! Thanks tons. Not sure why my 
searching didnt come up with anything. But thanks a bunch!

DontWannaName! wrote:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=89136

 2009/4/15 Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com

   
 That would be awesome, especially if I can tie it into the scramble plugin
 I
 already have (which I doubt would be too hard). I want to use it on KOTH
 maps :)

 -Atreus

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, [ЯтR] The-/iller 
 kil...@righttorule.com
 
 wrote:
   
 We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto scramble,
 don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the author
   
 to.
 
 Alex wrote:
   
 Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams after
 so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod
 plugins for this.

 Thanks


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Re: [hlds] Best/Worst of running game servers

[Alex]

That about sums up how i feel about the clan im in. I want to try and 
keep it professional yet i get these people who do everything in a 
joking manner.

Arg! wrote:
 Its hard to find good people to moderate game servers. Especially ones who
 agree with your 'vision', for want of a better word, of what you want to
 achieve from a community.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote:

   
 There are 80% noobs in public servers.

 2009/4/16 Bruce Potter gd...@shmoo.com

 
 [posted this to the linux list a few days ago.  figured I'd post it
 here too.  Apologize for the x-post]

 Howdy all,
 I'm giving a talk at a conference this weekend on game servers.
 Basically focusing on the technology behind them, how to secure them
 (both from cheaters/griefers and from actual dedicated attackers),
 the  culture around running servers, and whatever else I have time to
 cover.

 http://www.notacon.org/speakers.html#Potter

 has more info on it.

 Anyhoo, I was wondering if any of the folks on this list had any best
 of/worst of stories, quotes, or feelings they'd like to share. If so,
 feel free to send me details off list... cuz I'd hate to negatively
 impact the signal to noise ratio on this list ;)

 I also hope to be doing a deeper dive into the security aspect of
 game  servers at the Blackhat conference in Vegas later this year,
 FYI, in  case folks are interested.

 thanks

 bruce


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[hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

[Alex]

Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams after 
so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod 
plugins for this.

Thanks


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Re: [hlds] Possible Quick Connect button?

[Alex]

Chris wrote:
 So i was thinking and wondering the possibilities of haivng a quick 
 connect button inside TF2 based on quickest ping times with minimal 
 flags. This would help populate good servers that are hosted with 
 minimal players. Of course the potential player has the option of doing 
 a quick connect or finding the server as normal.


 Just a thought, what do you guys think? is this a pipe dream?

   
sounds like a great idea to me. Our server could probably benefit from 
this very much so. And this would be an easy way for new players and 
weekend gamers to get in the game easier.


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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

[Alex]

Does this mean that after the 'beta' the patch will be live? Or is this a
case of 'update now or miss out' ?

Alex

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Friday, 20 March 2009 4:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

A beta update for Half-Life 1 Engine games has been released.  Please run
hldsupdatetool to receive it with -beta 0319 on the command line.  The
specific changes include:

Server changes:
- Fixed players being kicked from servers with an INVALID_STEAM_TICKET
rejection
- Added a message to the server console to show when the server has
reconnected to Steam
- Made map name and other variables reported by the server stay more current
- Show HLTV being connected in the player count for pings
- Fixed occasional crash under Linux on startup for SMP machines

This update won't be in beta long, so don't delay your testing.


- Alfred

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Re: [hlds] TF2 Blog Post: Server Scoring

[Alex]

there should be something about server configuration

it is posible to have a very good server even vanilla and to have 0 players

2009/3/13 Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de


 You don't get a penalty for removing players, the penalty is for each
 connection.

 A score filter would honor 32 player servers again, because they earn more
 points. It would be better to have a normalized score depending on the max
 player count. So a 24 player server which is full all the day has the same
 score like a 32 player server which is full all the day.


 I think the overall idea of this is good, but there are problems that
  absolutely must be fixed.
 
  1. Players connecting and reconnecting to the same server over and over
 to
  'attack' a server.
 
  2. The server changing maps, technically all players disconnect from the
  server, so when the map changes on a 32 player server, you get 32
  disconnects, and then 32 connections. 32 x 15 = -480 points for simply
  changing the map.
 
  If any of the players have been on for fewer than 15 minutes, you'll get
  even more of a penalty.
 
  3. Players getting kicked - I should not be punished for removing players
  from my server. If a player is cheating or griefing, I'd like to be able
  to
  kick him without taking a penalty.
 
  4. Server scores should be visible to the server administrator, delists
  must
  not be permanent if there is a delist mechanic in, negative server scores
  must heal over time, mainly so you don't get a situation with a server
  being
  permanently delisted. A bad server should stay delisted, but if a bad
  server
  stops being bad it should not remain delisted.
 
  5. Crash exploits? There's always a new crash exploit, now exploiters
 even
  have more incentive to crash servers, because now servers will be
  penalized
  if you connect and don't remain on for at least 15 minutes.
 
  6. Players getting removed from the server for reasons beyond their
  control.
  - connection lost
  - steam down (yes it happens)
  - kicked by administrator
  - vote kicked by players
  - and whatever other reason.
 
  The easiest way to prevent players from gaming the system against
 servers?
  No negative scores.
 
  Good servers will have very high positive scores, bad servers will have
  low
  scores. The -15 connection penalty is not needed. You can figure out how
  popular a server is solely by the amount of hours played on that server
  per
  player.
 
  Then simply allow players to sort the servers by score (and make sure
 this
  'score' value does not come from the server, but from the master server).
 
  Rather than delisting, allow players to filter the servers by score.
 I.e.,
  Don't show servers with less than x score.
 
  - voogru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Bengt
  Rosenberger
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:55 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Blog Post: Server Scoring
 
  They will, trust me, they do atm. Each day.
  Many, many players join servers by ping, player count and map and give a
  damn about the server name and tags.
  If they join my server, which they already do, they realize the mods and
  leave. And if I switch from a stock to a custom map, I'll lose points
  too because those who joined late, will now leave.
 
  This WILL affect me.
 
  Blood Letter schrieb:
  Those players go elsewhere, your players will still go to your server.
  I highly doubt you'd be on the de-listed end of the spectrum.
 
  I hope server score/rank is never made visible in any way.
  We do NOT need another e-peen measurement tool.
 
 
  Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:40:03 +0100
  From: bengt.rosenber...@gmx.de
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Blog Post: Server Scoring
 
  This is utterly shit (sorry for the language).
 
  - Mods: I'm running a few heavily modded TF2 server with many custom
  MM:S plugins. Although its all listed in server-name AND tags, I see
  people join, realize the mods, rant in chat and leave. This is going to
  hurt me and my community
 
  - Custom maps: This will put an end to custom maps completely. Not only
  the majority of players avoid custom maps, many people connect, wait
 for
  the download bar 1-2 seconds and disconnect again. Also, when a custom
  map is played, many players disconnect at mapchange. If they connected
  on the previous map, I get minus score for that. How nice...
 
  - Exploiting: Some of my servers are empty at night. So a player now
 can
  join it, disconnect and leave again just to hurt me?
 
  We KNEW for a long time valve is getting up the fight against mods
 again
  after they reverted the sv_tags delist shit.
  It seems this is what they thought out this time to fight custom
  servers.
 
  I'm paying *** money from my own pocket each month to provide
  servers for THEIR game. I help them to earn money while I 

Re: [hlds] sv_pure 2 - sprays working?

[Alex]

try to change map

2009/3/13 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com

 i havent noticed any on mine, but i have noticed that the first round after
 a server restart (TF2) that sprays work.

 On 3/13/09, Chris headad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I had been using sv_pure 2 to block sprays and all custom content, but
  noticed sprays are now working on my servers, and no changes to the
 configs
  recently. Only things that's changed is Valve updates...
 
  Is anyone else seeing sprays on their sv_pure 2 servers?
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Re: [hlds] Server not showing in Master Server List

[Alex]

central ?

2009/3/2 Jeremy Palmer jpet...@gmail.com

 Would Texas be considered East or West?

 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:43 PM, turb0z tur...@undergamer.com wrote:

  Make sure you're setting your sv_region value properly.
 
  eastcoast - sv_region 0
  westcoast - sv_region 1
  south america - sv_region 2
  europe - sv_region 3
  asia - sv_region 4
  australia - sv_region 5
  middle east - sv_region 6
  africa - sv_region 7
  world - sv_region 255
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Palmer
  Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:30 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds] Server not showing in Master Server List
 
  I have a server that keeps not showing in the Steam Master List.
  65.99.246.145:27015
 
 
  Does anyone have experience with this prob and how I can fix it?
 
  Thanks
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Re: [hlds] Fake Steam Site

[Alex]

all the websites are raported and they are marked as phishing sites (in
google/firefox)

2009/2/27 Daniel Duarte dfdua...@gmail.com

 Got another one :/
 http://steamcommunnitty.rg3.net/



 On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Daniel Reinhardt
 crypto...@cryptodan.comwrote:

  Eh no, theyd just download the images.
 
  --
  From: Tom Leighton tomrleigh...@googlemail.com
  Sent: 25 February, 2009 21:18
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Fake Steam Site
 
   Just a random thought, if Valve enabled hotlink protection on the steam
   community images, couldn't they set it to send all images as a special
   This site is a scam website image?
  
   Seeing as some scam sites hotlink the images directly, it would
 probably
   work for some, but not all...
  
   Maxi Hark wrote:
   i almost wrote whoever falls for this deserves it
   :
  
  
   Report this one too guys.
   http://steaamcomunytigroupsuccmy.tk/
  
  
   [ ]'s
  
   Daniel Duarte
  
  
   On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
  
   Nice, someone just the steam community run for my clan for
   regulars/pubbies
   and spammed everyone in it with a link to this site.
  
   On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com
   wrote:
  
  
  
   2 hours later it's confirmed in FF
  
   mauirixxx
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin
  Zey
   Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:42 PM
   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Fake Steam Site
  
   Report these to:
  
   Firefox
   Help - Report Web Forgery or visit
   http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/
  
   In IE
   On the Tools menu, point to Phishing Filter, and then click Report
   This
   Website.
  
   Once they've been confirmed by mozilla/microsoft, IE7+ and Firefox
   will
   give warnings to all visitors that it's a scam.
  
   - Neph
  
   On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniell Reinhardt
   crypto...@cryptodan.com wrote:
  
  
   Reported to the hoster.
  
   --
   From: Patrick Shelley sidest...@gmail.com
   Sent: 06 February, 2009 22:45
   To: Half-Life Windows hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: [hlds] Fake Steam Site
  
  
  
   Looks good this one!
  
   www.steamipowered.com
  
   note the url
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Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot

[Alex]

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2193/?recent=26893

very nice

2009/2/27 Patrick Shelley sidest...@gmail.com

 Oh well, lets hope you get more than 4 in 6 months!
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Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot

[Alex]

where is msleeper fan club ? i would like to join

2009/2/27 CLAN RCR clan...@gmail.com

 msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using to judge
 your logic/decision to base your bans off of.

 Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might possibly be
 off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a moot
 point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is behind the
 driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is somehow a
 banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you consider
 the
 other arguements logically you will never win the arguement.

 -Matt

 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:

  Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is back up
  to where it was before, not like I care too much.
 
 
 
  I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the
  plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called
  self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something that
  nobody is being held at gun point to use.
 
  If you don't like it, don't use it. End of story.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot

[Alex]

good job msleeper

good idea. keep working on it

2009/2/25 Darren Gordon dar...@spec907.net

 Ok good, that means I can say

 You're the worst server admin ever.


 And not have to follow up.


 On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote:

  I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are numb
  to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is being
  complacent about it.
 
  Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the
  definition:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29
 
  The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other
  achievement server, to make farmers feel safe by joining it.
 
  I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks.
 
 
 
  On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote:
  If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then
  being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical,
  selfish ass.
 
  You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm
  achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay /
  simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress
  towards others) before being banned.
 
  You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many
  achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a
  little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another
  server afterward, etc.).
 
  You're banning these people from YOUR servers.  You do provide a
  public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many
  other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000
  bans.  The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list
  because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to
  import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod
  with sql/etc.).
 
  You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a
  certain way.  That's fine, but you won't get much support for your
  cause, especially with the way you are doing things.  Simply
  setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far
  more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole.
 
  The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock
  than to grind for achievements.
  I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and
  whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force
  grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap.  The mere fact
  that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players
  playing is a slap in the face.  It works though, because people
  feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and
  the Ubersaw.
 
  It's a difference in opinion.  You hate farmers, I don't care how
  people enjoy their game.  You imposing your view of the game on
  your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing
  an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be
  farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise,
  hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community
  (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them (selfish).
 
  From: mslee...@cyberwurx.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot
 
  My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a
  delay
  between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't know
  what
  is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming server.
 
 
  On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote:
  Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming
  server... Or
  wait... No, I won't.
  Have fun with an empty server.
 
  Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server...
 
  msleeper schrieb:
  I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban
  anyone
  who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any other
  admins out
  there who think that complacency towards farming needs to end,
  this is
  step one.
 
  I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came
  out last
  night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have been
  caught and
  stopped.
 
  The plugin is here:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402
  My publicly available list of farmers is here:
  http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html
 
  I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal
  opinions
  about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting farmers
  is wrong,
  but if you want to discuss you can always join IRC.
 
 
  Sent from my honeypot
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Server being spammed

[Alex]

etf2l cup ? :))

there is a plugin for ddos attack, i think

2009/2/23 Matt 'mole' Ashton m...@dcsb.co.uk

 Currently have a game going on, a cup final. Someone is spamming the server
 out and making it unplayable :/ Does anyone:

 A). Have the command to prevent a server being displayed on the server list
 so they can move to an undisclosed server and
 B). Have a plugin or mod to prevent this? I believe there was one released
 recently.
 C). Any other advice?

 Matt


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Re: [hlds] Neph's Plugin

[Alex]

i did not

2009/2/22 Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com


 I'd just like to verify that nobody has experienced any negative side
 effects since installing Neph's plugin to stop the map timeouts.

 http://nephyrin.net/tools/NephDSU/NephDSU_v1.1-r1.zip

 Thanks,
 Alec Sanger
 www.stompfest.com

 _
 Windows Live™: Discover 10 secrets about the new Windows Live.

 http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!7540.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_ugc_post_022009http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns%21550F681DAD532637%217540.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_ugc_post_022009
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Re: [hlds] GMod Broken - Invalid Steam Key Size

[Alex]

server update ?

2009/2/21 DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com

 Anyone else having issues with GMod? I thought the Steam servers were
 fixed.

 Everytime I attempt to join a server, I get kicked back instantly into
 the main menu, with the error Invalid Steam Key Size appearing in
 console.

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Re: [hlds] [SourceMod] SteamIDs to 64bit integers

[Alex]

why ?

2009/2/19 bl4nk bl4n...@gmail.com

 With the controversy going on where the SteamIDs were being changed
 around a lot, voogru brought up the point about converting your SteamIDs
 to 64bit integers. With some help from him, I've made a SourceMod
 extension which will allow you to do this with ease. It currently only
 works on OB mods (I tested on TF2, but it should work fine on any other
 one), so for those wishing for this to work for CS:S and any other EP1
 mods, I'm sorry, but I'll try to get to you later.

 The extension is mainly for plugin developers (or those that know how to
 modify plugins), and is really simple to use. I've made native functions
 for basically all you can think of as for converting SteamIDs to and
 from 64bit integers. You can get the extension here:

 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86019

 If you have any problems with the extension, please post them in the
 thread so that everything is in one place. I've included some more
 information in the thread (see the Notes section), so if you have any
 questions, check that out first before asking.

 Big thanks to voogru for the help and inspiration for this whole thing.

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Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

[Alex]

also, how can they enable sv_cheats 1 ?

2009/2/11 Scott scottish2c...@gmail.com

 oh great i just went and looked at the forums to see if they are that bad!
 and yes they are. its a bunch of kids saying why my server no wrk on my
 computor. ahhh valve why do you do this stuff to us. these emails were
 vital to me they showed me that i wasn't alone in issues i was having and
 gave me fixes normaily way before i had a problem. also over all, most
 everyone on here knows what they are doing so it was a quick way i could
 find out what was going on every day with out the spam of 12 year olds
 asking how to run a server on there home computer over and over again.
 er

 2009/2/11 Scott scottish2c...@gmail.com

  no this cant be happening.
 
  2009/2/11 DontWannaName! dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
 
  Ya Burton has always been tonjohn. He must have forgoten to use his
  official email to post on here or something.
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 1:37:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
 
  de laBurton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.comrăspunde laHalf-Life
 dedicated
  Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  is he real ? = from Burton ...
 
  2009/2/9 Evan Kaufman evan.kauf...@gmail.com
 
   Ditto, since that's really THE most useful thing about this list.
  
   On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
I would also like to know this
   
   
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
   

 Well, Burton. What about receiving notification of updates? Please
 tell me we will still be able to receive these via email.

 Thank you,
 Alec Sanger
 P: 248.941.3813
 F: 313.286.8945



   
   
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Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

[Alex]

you are true Matt

2009/2/11 CLAN RCR clan...@gmail.com

 I'm reasonably new to the email list having only been a member for less
 then
 a month but the reason why I'm a member of the list is because it at least
 takes *some* working knowledge of how lists work (no matter how simple) for
 people to interact on it. Forums are always riddled with kids and idiots.

 We need some place for the dedicated admins to talk, and this is it. Unless
 the Steam forums is going to make a board specific to 'dedicated admins'
 with permissions on who and who can't access it this email list is the
 easiest way. I doubt Steam would go through all the hassle of configuring
 permissions, then having to deal with the whiny snots running a server on
 their parents cable internet connection calling themselves an admin and
 being able to access said board as well.

 There is just no replacement for an email list that by it's very nature,
 filters out the annoyances.

 -Matt

 2009/2/11 Scott scottish2c...@gmail.com

  oh great i just went and looked at the forums to see if they are that
 bad!
  and yes they are. its a bunch of kids saying why my server no wrk on my
  computor. ahhh valve why do you do this stuff to us. these emails were
  vital to me they showed me that i wasn't alone in issues i was having and
  gave me fixes normaily way before i had a problem. also over all, most
  everyone on here knows what they are doing so it was a quick way i could
  find out what was going on every day with out the spam of 12 year olds
  asking how to run a server on there home computer over and over again.
  er
 
  2009/2/11 Scott scottish2c...@gmail.com
 
   no this cant be happening.
  
   2009/2/11 DontWannaName! dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
  
   Ya Burton has always been tonjohn. He must have forgoten to use his
   official email to post on here or something.
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
   hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 1:37:06 PM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
  
   de laBurton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.comrăspunde laHalf-Life
  dedicated
   Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   is he real ? = from Burton ...
  
   2009/2/9 Evan Kaufman evan.kauf...@gmail.com
  
Ditto, since that's really THE most useful thing about this list.
   
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 I would also like to know this


 On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com
  wrote:

 
  Well, Burton. What about receiving notification of updates?
 Please
  tell me we will still be able to receive these via email.
 
  Thank you,
  Alec Sanger
  P: 248.941.3813
  F: 313.286.8945
 
 
 


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Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

[Alex]

de laBurton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.comrăspunde laHalf-Life dedicated
Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
is he real ? = from Burton ...

2009/2/9 Evan Kaufman evan.kauf...@gmail.com

 Ditto, since that's really THE most useful thing about this list.

 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com wrote:

  I would also like to know this
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  
   Well, Burton. What about receiving notification of updates? Please
   tell me we will still be able to receive these via email.
  
   Thank you,
   Alec Sanger
   P: 248.941.3813
   F: 313.286.8945
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+ serverslaggy.

[Alex]

sish, it was posted on etf2l forum that tick in tf2 is same always for 66

so 100= 66
no difference

2009/2/6 Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com

 Just reply to the last sender.


 On 2/5/09, Sish Gupta sishgu...@gmail.com wrote:
  sorry i have no idea how to make my replys threaded, this is my first
 time
  on a mailing list.
  -sish
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Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+ serverslaggy.

[Alex]

i've found a cracked server: 72.249.142.55:27015

how can we stop them ? or to ban them ?

2009/2/5 JHW (DogGunn) dogg...@bigpond.com

 And what evidence do you have to sustain that claim?

 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  they ran cracked before the fakeclients, and the same reason too.
 
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:08 AM, JHW (DogGunn) dogg...@bigpond.com
 wrote:
 
   How do you get cracked servers out of fakeclients? Pretty sure Lotus
 clan
   hasn't run cracked servers...
  
   On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
oh, ok sorry
   
2009/2/5 Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
   
 Had, not has.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
wrote:

  to be honest
 
  the only way to make TF2 cracked is that cracked players have a
   server
 
  no cracked servers - no cracked players
 
  so, if lotus has a cracked server, they suck
 
  2009/2/5 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com
 
   Don't tell us what to do. But seeing how you are doing it
 anyway,
  I
 have
  a
   suggestion:
   Get off the list if you are running a cracked server. It's that
simple.
  
   Did I say fattie yet? If not then I have now. And you just used
   dump_entity_sizes recently so it seems you haven't learned
  anything
 yet.
   Luckily I now have complete command logging which is pretty
   awesome.
  
   I'd love to call you fattie some more but the poor people on
 this
list
   might
   not enjoy their inboxes being filled with offtopic crap.
  
   Oh there's a 41 page thread on Steampowered talking about
fakeclients.
  
   
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767078page=41
  
   Why don't you go bump that instead?
  
  
   
 ===
   Justin to Half-Life
   You also have to realise that Lotus has no qualitys what so
 EVER,
   if
 they
   didnt use fakeplayers they would most likely fail just like my
servers
  did
   without the crack.
  
   
 ===
  
   I see you are a fan of Lotus. Just like this hacker:
  

  
 http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=4864st=0start=0
  
   I recommend you join his group:
   http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lotussucks
  
   Infact why don't you make your own? The more the better! I'm
   serious.
  It's
   cool just do it.I LOVE fanclubs.
  
   And with this I'm done responding to you but just to be certain
   that
I
  can
   withhold myself from calling you a fattie... I shall now block
  your
 email
   email as well, fattie.
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Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+ serverslaggy.

[Alex]

i've just googled :))

2009/2/5 JHW (DogGunn) dogg...@bigpond.com

 Timeout.

 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote:

  i've found a cracked server: 72.249.142.55:27015
 
  how can we stop them ? or to ban them ?
 
  2009/2/5 JHW (DogGunn) dogg...@bigpond.com
 
   And what evidence do you have to sustain that claim?
  
   On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
they ran cracked before the fakeclients, and the same reason too.
   
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:08 AM, JHW (DogGunn) dogg...@bigpond.com
   wrote:
   
 How do you get cracked servers out of fakeclients? Pretty sure
 Lotus
   clan
 hasn't run cracked servers...

 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
wrote:

  oh, ok sorry
 
  2009/2/5 Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
 
   Had, not has.
  
   On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Alex 
  alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
to be honest
   
the only way to make TF2 cracked is that cracked players have
 a
 server
   
no cracked servers - no cracked players
   
so, if lotus has a cracked server, they suck
   
2009/2/5 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com
   
 Don't tell us what to do. But seeing how you are doing it
   anyway,
I
   have
a
 suggestion:
 Get off the list if you are running a cracked server. It's
  that
  simple.

 Did I say fattie yet? If not then I have now. And you just
  used
 dump_entity_sizes recently so it seems you haven't learned
anything
   yet.
 Luckily I now have complete command logging which is pretty
 awesome.

 I'd love to call you fattie some more but the poor people
 on
   this
  list
 might
 not enjoy their inboxes being filled with offtopic crap.

 Oh there's a 41 page thread on Steampowered talking about
  fakeclients.

 
   http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767078page=41

 Why don't you go bump that instead?


 
   ===
 Justin to Half-Life
 You also have to realise that Lotus has no qualitys what so
   EVER,
 if
   they
 didnt use fakeplayers they would most likely fail just like
  my
  servers
did
 without the crack.

 
   ===

 I see you are a fan of Lotus. Just like this hacker:

  

  
 http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=4864st=0start=0

 I recommend you join his group:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lotussucks

 Infact why don't you make your own? The more the better!
 I'm
 serious.
It's
 cool just do it.I LOVE fanclubs.

 And with this I'm done responding to you but just to be
  certain
 that
  I
can
 withhold myself from calling you a fattie... I shall now
  block
your
   email
 email as well, fattie.
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Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+ serverslaggy.

[Alex]

oh, ok sorry

2009/2/5 Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com

 Had, not has.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote:

  to be honest
 
  the only way to make TF2 cracked is that cracked players have a server
 
  no cracked servers - no cracked players
 
  so, if lotus has a cracked server, they suck
 
  2009/2/5 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com
 
   Don't tell us what to do. But seeing how you are doing it anyway, I
 have
  a
   suggestion:
   Get off the list if you are running a cracked server. It's that simple.
  
   Did I say fattie yet? If not then I have now. And you just used
   dump_entity_sizes recently so it seems you haven't learned anything
 yet.
   Luckily I now have complete command logging which is pretty awesome.
  
   I'd love to call you fattie some more but the poor people on this list
   might
   not enjoy their inboxes being filled with offtopic crap.
  
   Oh there's a 41 page thread on Steampowered talking about fakeclients.
   http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767078page=41
  
   Why don't you go bump that instead?
  
   ===
   Justin to Half-Life
   You also have to realise that Lotus has no qualitys what so EVER, if
 they
   didnt use fakeplayers they would most likely fail just like my servers
  did
   without the crack.
   ===
  
   I see you are a fan of Lotus. Just like this hacker:
  
 http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=4864st=0start=0
  
   I recommend you join his group:
   http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lotussucks
  
   Infact why don't you make your own? The more the better! I'm serious.
  It's
   cool just do it.I LOVE fanclubs.
  
   And with this I'm done responding to you but just to be certain that I
  can
   withhold myself from calling you a fattie... I shall now block your
 email
   email as well, fattie.
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[hlds] TF2: mp_teamplay

[Alex]

I saw a competition config, a option called mp_teamplay.

I've googled a bit, and i see that is something with friendly fire, but i
did not find something clear.

Can someone explain me ?

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Re: [hlds] Download region for hldsupdatetool?

[Alex]

tbh, i don't see that option in steam :|

2009/2/4 Roman Hatsiev otst...@gmail.com

 Here is what I saw in the recent Steam client update:

 * Added ability to specify content download region (in Settings-downloads)

 Any chance to see this as a parameter to hldsupdatetool?

 Regards,

 Roman

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

we know

2009/2/4 Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com

 Custom crosshairs put in a crosshair when the sniper rifle isn't zoomed.

 D:

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:

  Yeah. I misread this part:
 
  - Bonus range based on damage done changed from 0%-15% to 0%-10%
  - Damage range required for bonus changed from 0-1600 to 0-800.
 
  I read it as bonus range being the amount of extra crit damage you do,
  and not the probability that you still get to crit. The BB and the Kritz
  are still A-#1.
 
  On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 20:55 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote:
   I'm not sure you guys are reading patch notes correctly. It sounds
   like they rebalanced crit chance to favor players who are having
   'streaks' a lot more than random crits to spammers, they didn't note
   what the new overall crit % is expected to be, but i would expect it
   to be similar.
  
   - Neph
  
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Re: [hlds] Download region for hldsupdatetool?

[Alex]

yeah

after the update i restarted, and did not appear, restarted again and now
its working

2009/2/4 Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com

 You can manually update...
 That was a new feature during the last update.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Roman Hatsiev otst...@gmail.com wrote:

  You may need to restart it to pickup latest update.
 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   tbh, i don't see that option in steam :|
  
   2009/2/4 Roman Hatsiev otst...@gmail.com
  
   Here is what I saw in the recent Steam client update:
  
   * Added ability to specify content download region (in
  Settings-downloads)
  
   Any chance to see this as a parameter to hldsupdatetool?
  
   Regards,
  
   Roman
  
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Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+ serverslaggy.

[Alex]

to be honest

the only way to make TF2 cracked is that cracked players have a server

no cracked servers - no cracked players

so, if lotus has a cracked server, they suck

2009/2/5 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com

 Don't tell us what to do. But seeing how you are doing it anyway, I have a
 suggestion:
 Get off the list if you are running a cracked server. It's that simple.

 Did I say fattie yet? If not then I have now. And you just used
 dump_entity_sizes recently so it seems you haven't learned anything yet.
 Luckily I now have complete command logging which is pretty awesome.

 I'd love to call you fattie some more but the poor people on this list
 might
 not enjoy their inboxes being filled with offtopic crap.

 Oh there's a 41 page thread on Steampowered talking about fakeclients.
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767078page=41

 Why don't you go bump that instead?

 ===
 Justin to Half-Life
 You also have to realise that Lotus has no qualitys what so EVER, if they
 didnt use fakeplayers they would most likely fail just like my servers did
 without the crack.
 ===

 I see you are a fan of Lotus. Just like this hacker:
 http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=4864st=0start=0

 I recommend you join his group:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lotussucks

 Infact why don't you make your own? The more the better! I'm serious. It's
 cool just do it.I LOVE fanclubs.

 And with this I'm done responding to you but just to be certain that I can
 withhold myself from calling you a fattie... I shall now block your email
 email as well, fattie.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Alex]

nice, i thought it was scout, when i saw it so long

2009/2/3 Flubber flub...@gmail.com

 I'm afraid with those change that TF2 is going the cs path, fun and cool
 game to 1337 game. That's make me a sad panda.
 At least this time all ours ervers launch directly.

 2009/2/3 CLAN RCR clan...@gmail.com

  The Backburner shouldn't take a nerf because it's 100% crits to the back
 so
  it's model/hitbox-dependent. I doubt anything happened to it.
 
  -Matt
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:34 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
 
   Now that critical hits are nerfed, the Backburner has likely lost a lot
   of it's lethal power. I can't say for certain since I haven't been able
   to play with it, but if the Backburner sucks the big one, can we see
   some sort of return on it (maybe the +50 health back)?
  
   On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 17:24 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote:
A required update for Team Fortress 2 has been released.  Please run
   hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
   
New client features:
 - Added view model FOV slider to advanced multiplayer options.
 - Added a hide view model option to advanced multiplayer options.
 - Added custom crosshair support.
- Added crosshair image, scale, and color settings to the
   Options-Multiplayer settings tab.
- Moved HUD minimal mode  Disable Spray options into the
   Advanced Multiplayer settings.
 - Added open_charinfo_direct command that opens the loadout
 directly
   to the class you're currently playing.
- Replaced the Open Loadout entry in the options-keys
 dialog
   with this new command. Rebind / reset your config to defaults to use
 it.
   
New server features:
 - Added tf_damage_disablespread convar to disable the 25% damage
   spread on all damage.
 - Added class limit support to tournament mode.
- Set the tf_tournament_classlimit_X convars to the max
  number
   of class X allowed.
 - Added tf_tournament_hide_domination_icons convar, that allows a
   tournament mode server to force clients not to display domination icons
  over
   their nemeses.
   
Gameplay changes:
 - Modified critical hit calculation. Overall, critical hit chance is
  now
   much more recent-performance based.
- Base chance is now 2% (was 5%).
- Bonus range based on damage done changed from 0%-15% to
  0%-10%
- Damage range required for bonus changed from 0-1600 to
 0-800.
 - Reduced random damage spread applied to all player damage from
 +-25%
   to +-10%.
 - Slight reduction (improvement) of the minigun's spread.
 - Increased flare direct hit damage from 20 to 30.
 - Rewrote Natascha's slowdown code to be more consistent.
 - Sniper rifle now supports Crit Boost state like all other weapons
   (i.e. Kritzkrieg makes all shots critical hits).
 - Stealthed spies are no longer able to pickup the intelligence.
 They
   must uncloak first.
 - Increased soldier primary ammo count from 16 to 20.
   
Bugfixes:
 - Added UTIL_IsCommandIssuedByServerAdmin() checks to several
  physics_
   CON_COMMAND scripts to prevent clients issuing the commands.
 - Fixed bug in teleporter logic that allowed engineers to build
   teleporters with HUGE health values.
 - Fixed matching teleporter not getting a health buff when the pair
 is
   upgraded (only the tele you were hitting got the health buff).
 - Fixed Medic ÜberCharge percentage in minimal-HUD mode.
 - Protected against an HLTV related server crash.
   
Note that we are still working on the client timeout and lag issues.
   
Jason
   
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Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit

[Alex]

good job richard

you pwned him

2009/2/3 Patrick Shelley sidest...@gmail.com

 LOL Richard! He sounds very contrite now doesnt he.

 On 2/3/09, Richard Eid richard@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Some of these problems have been addressed with last night's patch.
 
  I wonder if this was part of the patch: ;)
 
  http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=796441
 
  Thanks for taking care of this Valve.
 
 
  -Richard Eid
 
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Chris headad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Does this one also require the client to execute the command during
   connection? Or does this one work if fully connected?
  
   On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Yet another one:
Client: STEAM_0:0:16216315 called: dump_entity_sizes
   
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM, AzuiSleet azuisl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 These exploits have been around for a very long time, it's just
  nobody
 really abused them like they have been now. The obvious commands
 are
 physics_select and friends. The reason they crash a server is
  because
the
 player is NULL during connect. As for the console spam, that's a
  side
 effect of having a NULL player, the game thinks the say is coming
  from
the
 console. Most of this stuff is obvious when you look in the SDK.

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tom Leighton 
tomrleigh...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  VAC is fully automated, and VALVe do not accept any cheater's
 steam
   id
  submissions.
 
  However, you could report them to www.steambans.com if you run
 steambans.
 
  Andrey Titov wrote:
   sorry..
   can i ask hire?
   need adress to sent cheat players steam id's.. piss me off
 that's
 little
   bastards ))
   valve adress better. ban by server is too liitle trouble for
  thouse
  players.
   sorr for bad eng
  
   2009/2/2 Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
  
  
   True, but we have alot of time on our hands aswell seeing as
  most
   of
 us
   have
   10+ game servers, and are pissed off because this plugin
 affects
   the
  hard
   work put into them.
  
   On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Timothy L Havener 
   timotheus_have...@earthlink.net wrote:
  
  
   that's an epic parenting fail right there.  these kids have
 way
   too
  much
   free time on their hands to come up with this crap.
  
   Justin wrote:
  
   http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=558846
   He's selling it too..
  
   On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, DontWannaName!
   dontwannaname...@yahoo.comwrote:
  
  
  
   I dont think there is a way to stop the attacks because he
  uses
   a
 few
   commands and such. He also crashes the server before the
  server
can
  
   tell
  
   him
  
   that he is banned. I think IP banning him may work?
  86.3.49.194
He
  has
  
   a
  
   lot
  
   of steamids so a steam ban wont work, wont authenticate
  either.
He
  
   isnt
  
   really getting your rcon password from what I have seen.
   http://download.chrisaster.com/garrysmod/
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Chris headad...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
   hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:25:51 AM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit
  
   ok, how to block this command?
  
   The sm command blocker plugin?
  
   On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Chad Austin 
c...@pcchemical.com
  
   wrote:
  
  
   dsplittber...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   thank god he gave us the link to where we can buy these
exploits
 :p
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Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)

[Alex]

yeah, thats pwnage

2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com

 pwned

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people.
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
 
   Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers.
  
  
   On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote:
Thats kinda mean lol
   
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com
  wrote:
   
 Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement
  box
 maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a
 SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all.

 On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote:
  Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server !
 
  Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming,
 am
  i
 right
  ?
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[hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)

[Alex]

Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server !

Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right
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Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit

[Alex]

Hehehe, they actually fixed it, in the latest TF2 update,

- Added UTIL_IsCommandIssuedByServerAdmin() checks to several physics_
CON_COMMAND scripts to prevent clients issuing the commands.

That's one of the fixes for TF2 + OrangeBox.

Let's see how long it will take them to update it some more.

:D

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:19 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit

Would be nice if Valve looked through their code and fixed them whit out the
need for us to waste time and get a list.

But that won't happen :/


On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com wrote:

 So does anyone have a list of commands that can be used to crash a
 server so I can block them?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:42 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yet another one:
  Client: STEAM_0:0:16216315 called: dump_entity_sizes
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM, AzuiSleet azuisl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  These exploits have been around for a very long time, it's just
  nobody
  really abused them like they have been now. The obvious commands are
  physics_select and friends. The reason they crash a server is
  because the
  player is NULL during connect. As for the console spam, that's a
  side
  effect of having a NULL player, the game thinks the say is coming
  from the
  console. Most of this stuff is obvious when you look in the SDK.
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tom Leighton 
 tomrleigh...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
  VAC is fully automated, and VALVe do not accept any cheater's
  steam id
  submissions.
 
  However, you could report them to www.steambans.com if you run
  steambans.
 
  Andrey Titov wrote:
  sorry..
  can i ask hire?
  need adress to sent cheat players steam id's.. piss me off that's
  little
  bastards ))
  valve adress better. ban by server is too liitle trouble for thouse
  players.
  sorr for bad eng
 
  2009/2/2 Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com
 
 
  True, but we have alot of time on our hands aswell seeing as
  most of
  us
  have
  10+ game servers, and are pissed off because this plugin affects
  the
  hard
  work put into them.
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Timothy L Havener 
  timotheus_have...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
  that's an epic parenting fail right there.  these kids have way
  too
  much
  free time on their hands to come up with this crap.
 
  Justin wrote:
 
  http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=558846
  He's selling it too..
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, DontWannaName!
  dontwannaname...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 
 
  I dont think there is a way to stop the attacks because he
  uses a
  few
  commands and such. He also crashes the server before the
  server can
 
  tell
 
  him
 
  that he is banned. I think IP banning him may work?
  86.3.49.194 He
  has
 
  a
 
  lot
 
  of steamids so a steam ban wont work, wont authenticate
  either. He
 
  isnt
 
  really getting your rcon password from what I have seen.
  http://download.chrisaster.com/garrysmod/
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Chris headad...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:25:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit
 
  ok, how to block this command?
 
  The sm command blocker plugin?
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Chad Austin c...@pcchemical.com
  
 
  wrote:
 
 
  dsplittber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  thank god he gave us the link to where we can buy these
  exploits
  :p
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[hlds] After update error

[Alex]

Console initialized.
Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
./srcds_run: line 352: 11005 Segmentation fault  $HL_CMD
Add -debug to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a debug.log to help
with solving this problem
Thu Jan 29 12:32:16 EET 2009: Server restart in 10 seconds

Today i've updated my server, and i've got this error, can someone help me ?

I've also added -debug and see:


Console initialized.
Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
./srcds_run: line 352: 11068 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) $HL_CMD
cat: hlds.11041.pid: No such file or directory
email debug.log to li...@valvesoftware.com
Thu Jan 29 12:34:45 EET 2009: Server restart in 10 seconds
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Re: [hlds] After update error

[Alex]

yes, im using sourcemod/metamod

how can i disable them without deleting ?

2009/1/29 Olly oli...@gmail.com

 Are you running any extra plugins (inc. SourceMod/MetaMod plugins)?
 If you are, disable them one by one until it starts. If it still doesn't
 start, type the following into the linux shell (as root)  'ulimit
 unlimited'
 without quotes.

 Then next time it crashes, it will give you a core.xx file that is much
 bigger than the rest. You should somehow find a way to get that file to
 someone at valve.

 2009/1/29 Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com

  Console initialized.
  Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
  ./srcds_run: line 352: 11005 Segmentation fault  $HL_CMD
  Add -debug to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a debug.log to
  help
  with solving this problem
  Thu Jan 29 12:32:16 EET 2009: Server restart in 10 seconds
 
  Today i've updated my server, and i've got this error, can someone help
 me
  ?
 
  I've also added -debug and see:
 
 
  Console initialized.
  Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
  ./srcds_run: line 352: 11068 Segmentation fault  (core dumped)
 $HL_CMD
  cat: hlds.11041.pid: No such file or directory
  email debug.log to li...@valvesoftware.com
  Thu Jan 29 12:34:45 EET 2009: Server restart in 10 seconds
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Re: [hlds] After update error

[Alex]

i renamed the metamod.vdf to metamo.vdf

did not worked

i renamed it again and now is working lol

2009/1/29 Olly oli...@gmail.com

 There is a disabled folder inside /addons/sourcemod/plugins Move each
 plugin
 into that folder one by one

 2009/1/29 Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com

  yes, im using sourcemod/metamod
 
  how can i disable them without deleting ?
 
  2009/1/29 Olly oli...@gmail.com
 
   Are you running any extra plugins (inc. SourceMod/MetaMod plugins)?
   If you are, disable them one by one until it starts. If it still
 doesn't
   start, type the following into the linux shell (as root)  'ulimit
   unlimited'
   without quotes.
  
   Then next time it crashes, it will give you a core.xx file that is
  much
   bigger than the rest. You should somehow find a way to get that file to
   someone at valve.
  
   2009/1/29 Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com
  
Console initialized.
Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
./srcds_run: line 352: 11005 Segmentation fault  $HL_CMD
Add -debug to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a debug.log
 to
help
with solving this problem
Thu Jan 29 12:32:16 EET 2009: Server restart in 10 seconds
   
Today i've updated my server, and i've got this error, can someone
 help
   me
?
   
I've also added -debug and see:
   
   
Console initialized.
Game.dll loaded for Team Fortress
./srcds_run: line 352: 11068 Segmentation fault  (core dumped)
   $HL_CMD
cat: hlds.11041.pid: No such file or directory
email debug.log to li...@valvesoftware.com
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Re: [hlds] Stop fighting and think before you write [also, HLServerAdmins IRC Channel]

[Alex]

I think its because she's not in the HLDS mailing list... for some reason 
when i go to properties on her emails it displays the Return Address to HLDS 
bouncing address.


- Original Message - 
From: Kveri kv...@kveri.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Stop fighting and think before you write [also, 
HLServerAdmins IRC Channel]


Rene this is your email:
do something with it, or remove yourself from the list.

what bad things? Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:27:02 + From: 
b...@hairy-arse.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 
Stop fighting and think before you write [also, HLServerAdmins IRC Channel] 
  Well, I don't want any more from you, your email client does bad things  
to my eyes.  Rene Wunderlich wrote:  I don't want to get more e-mails 
from You ! From: dar...@spec907.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 
Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:03:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [hlds] Stop fighting and think 
before you write [also, HLServerAdmins IRC Channel]  Real men SLOW 
PROTOCOL JOKE  We get it already On Jan 9, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Kitteny 
Berk wrote:   Real men use CPIP (RFC 1149)   Cc2iscooL wrote:  
Real men use telegraph.   On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM, msleeper 
mslee...@cyberwurx.com   wrote:Real men run the packets 
on foot.   On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 09:37 +1100, Arg! wrote:   
real men use a telnet client   On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:29 AM, 
Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com   wrote:   Real men 
use BitchX  :)Kveri wrote:   I'm using irssi on 
linux.   Kveri   Patrick Shelley wrote / 
napísal(a):Anyone recomend a good free IRC app 
please?   On 1/9/09, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com 
wrote: Alright, I've been sitting here 
day after day like many others   seeing   the  
  pointless message wars in a few particular topics. Now, I too  
  am   having   the   issue at 
hand between map changes. And, I'm not going to   touch on 
   the   topic   of whether valve owes 
us anything or demand an answer. The   point   I'd 
   like   to make here is that this list is not meant 
for this type of   thing.   It's   
for  server administrators to help each other, not to quibble back 
   and   forth   not   only 
about a bug but at each other! I'd like to second what   someone 
   said   earlier and ask that you start 
emailing -each other- instead of   using   the 
   list as a proxy. Clearly, Valve is aware of the issue and  
  fighting   won't   make them get to 
it any sooner. Let's get back to the list's   roots   
and   -help- each other. Please.   On that 
note, since it hasn't been mentioned in a long time,   I'd 
   like   to   invite any who are 
interested in helping each other to an IRC   Channel  
  that's  been around for quite a few months now, headed up 
by Nephyrin.*   It's on   GameSurge @ 
#hlserveradmins.*   I have a sad feeling that most will 
not heed this message,   especially   due  
  to  its length, but I felt I had to give a try at bringing 
some   kind of   order   back. If 
even a few people agree to drop their issues with each   other 
   and   take heed of the point of this email, it 
will have been   successful   to   me. 
   Thanks,  Atreus   ps. If you 
disagree with this email for whatever reason, I   urge you 
   not   to   reply with a series of 
insults. Reply in a mature manner, or   don't   do 
   so at   all. I wouldn't even mind if this went 
entirely unreplied to,   just   read.  
  Hopefully the IRC Channel will pick back up and we can get  
  back on   track on   the list, too. 
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[hlds] segmentation fault

[Alex]

CRASH: Tue Dec 23 03:05:48 EST 2008
Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port 27058
+maxplayers 11 +map de_dust2 -debug -pidfile hlds.8270.pid
 Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.
 Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port
 27058 +maxplayers 11 +map de_'.
 Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
 #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
 #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
 No symbol table info available.
 No shared libraries loaded at this time.
 Stack level 0, frame at 0x0:
 eip = 0x3860a7; saved eip 0x3860a7
 Arglist at unknown address.
 Locals at unknown address, Previous frame's sp in esp
 End of crash report

 --

Tried using 3 different maps ( de_dust2 - cs_office - de_aztec ) all coming 
back with the same errors

  anyone got any suggestions?

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Re: [hlds] segmentation fault

[Alex]

none, it was a fresh install

- Original Message - 
From: Olly oli...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] segmentation fault


 What plugins are you running?

 2008/12/22 Alex adib...@internode.on.net

 CRASH: Tue Dec 23 03:05:48 EST 2008
 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port 27058
 +maxplayers 11 +map de_dust2 -debug -pidfile hlds.8270.pid
  Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.
  Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port
  27058 +maxplayers 11 +map de_'.
  Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
  #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
  #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
  No symbol table info available.
  No shared libraries loaded at this time.
  Stack level 0, frame at 0x0:
  eip = 0x3860a7; saved eip 0x3860a7
  Arglist at unknown address.
  Locals at unknown address, Previous frame's sp in esp
  End of crash report

  --

 Tried using 3 different maps ( de_dust2 - cs_office - de_aztec ) all 
 coming
 back with the same errors

  anyone got any suggestions?

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Re: [hlds] segmentation fault

[Alex]

that didn't work..

[r...@games1 hlds_l_0]# gdb ./hlds_i686 core.25743
GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.5-37.el5_2.2rh)
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i386-redhat-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db 
library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.

Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port 
27058 +maxplayers 11 +map cs_'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0x002ed0a7 in ?? ()


- Original Message - 
From: Olly oli...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] segmentation fault


 try typing this into your ssh console (depending on what access you have)
 cd [the location of hlds_686]
 gdb ./hlds_686 core.x (This is the newset core file you have)
 bt

 Then paste the output

 (I can't remember the exact format of the gdb command, its been a while, 
 and
 I dont have access to my servers at work. If that command doesn't work, 
 try gdb
 core. ./hlds_686

 If it says something like incomplete or corrupt core file, you will need 
 to
 run this following command as root: ulimit unlimited



 2008/12/22 Alex adib...@internode.on.net

 none, it was a fresh install

 - Original Message -
 From: Olly oli...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] segmentation fault


  What plugins are you running?
 
  2008/12/22 Alex adib...@internode.on.net
 
  CRASH: Tue Dec 23 03:05:48 EST 2008
  Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194 +port 27058
  +maxplayers 11 +map de_dust2 -debug -pidfile hlds.8270.pid
   Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.
   Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 118.127.0.194
 +port
   27058 +maxplayers 11 +map de_'.
   Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
   #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
   #0  0x003860a7 in ?? ()
   No symbol table info available.
   No shared libraries loaded at this time.
   Stack level 0, frame at 0x0:
   eip = 0x3860a7; saved eip 0x3860a7
   Arglist at unknown address.
   Locals at unknown address, Previous frame's sp in esp
   End of crash report
 
   --
 
  Tried using 3 different maps ( de_dust2 - cs_office - de_aztec ) all
  coming
  back with the same errors
 
   anyone got any suggestions?
 
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