Re: File format for an unloaded partitioned data set?
When the files were offloaded were they a seqential dataset or a PDS file? The answer to that question will determine the response. George George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations Office - (561) 357-7652 Mobil - (561) 707-3496 School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33409-5869 Sent by Blackberry from the Palm Beach County School District - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Fri May 02 05:40:56 2008 Subject: File format for an unloaded partitioned data set? ---Original message follows-- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main From: Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 02:46:47 + Local: Thurs, May 1 2008 10:46 pm Subject: File format for an unloaded partitioned data set? I have a few unloaded partitioned data sets dating back to the 70's. I'd like to extract some members from them (on a Linux system). Are there any tools for this? Is there any documentation about this file format? -- hendrik --end of message What format are these unloaded PDS files? If they are in iebcopy unloaded xmit format, one way to do this would be to use the Hercules dasdload utility to create a virtual DASD volume (awsckd format) and load your xmit files onto it, and then use the dasdpdsu utility to extract members from the datasets. See http://www.hercules-390.org/hercload.html#PDS However, I don't think xmit format existed in the 1970's, so maybe your PDS are unloaded in iehmove format? If this is the case you could install the Turnkey system http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ which is a complete working MVS 3.8 system for Linux and Windows containing everything you need to load and process these files. Regards, Roger Bowler http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rbowler Hercules the people's mainframe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
File format for an unloaded partitioned data set?
---Original message follows-- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main From: Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 02:46:47 + Local: Thurs, May 1 2008 10:46 pm Subject: File format for an unloaded partitioned data set? I have a few unloaded partitioned data sets dating back to the 70's. I'd like to extract some members from them (on a Linux system). Are there any tools for this? Is there any documentation about this file format? -- hendrik --end of message What format are these unloaded PDS files? If they are in iebcopy unloaded xmit format, one way to do this would be to use the Hercules dasdload utility to create a virtual DASD volume (awsckd format) and load your xmit files onto it, and then use the dasdpdsu utility to extract members from the datasets. See http://www.hercules-390.org/hercload.html#PDS However, I don't think xmit format existed in the 1970's, so maybe your PDS are unloaded in iehmove format? If this is the case you could install the Turnkey system http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ which is a complete working MVS 3.8 system for Linux and Windows containing everything you need to load and process these files. Regards, Roger Bowler http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rbowler Hercules the people's mainframe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I do something very similar in my batch trail using OPC/E. I keep 2 copies of /etc/syslog.conf, syslog.conf.a, syslog.conf.b, which contain log name versions ending in either in .a or .b: *.alert /dev/console auth.* /tmp/auth.log.a *.err /tmp/error.log.a daemon.*/tmp/server.log.a *.*;auth.none;daemon.none;local7.debug /tmp/trashcan.log.a . The first step overlays /etc/syslog.conf with the next version, then I issue the kill -HUP to force syslogd to reread /etc/syslog.conf. We use SAR here so the remainder of the job copies the various logs over to JES2 and then to SAR. On Date:Thu, 1 May 2008 07:25:55 -0500 John Mckown wrote Subject: Re: ftp - syslogd - rotate I am not sure about 1.7. On z/OS 1.8, my /etc/syslog.conf file looks like: kern.* /var/log/kern.%Y-%m-%d user.* /var/log/user.%Y-%m-%d mail.* /var/log/mail.%Y-%m-%d news.* /var/log/news.%Y-%m-%d uucp.* /var/log/uucp.%Y-%m-%d daemon.* /var/log/daemon.%Y-%m-%d auth.* /var/log/auth.%Y-%m-%d cron.* /var/log/cron.%Y-%m-%d snip So that 1 second after midnight, the kill is issued. This causes syslogd to reread the /etc/syslog.conf and as a side effect pick up the new name. %Y is replaced with the 4 digit year, %m is replaced by the 2 digit month, %d is replaced by the 2 digit day. You can then run some other process to clean up old files in /var/log Jim Holloway - MetLife The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8?
I steplib to the 1.9 miglib and miglibe. What else is critical? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Procedure to verify OFFLOAD process
Angel, Let me repeat what I gave you earlier. Remember that if the job is across multiple volumes, until that job is completely purged, you cannot free the one volume. Also look for jobs that have not completed OUTPUT processing. They are not readily seen. In SDSF one of the displays I like to do is in the ST panel for all jobs. Then sort on QUE column. Then look for $MASCOM just scroll back from there. You may find some jobs that have not completed output processing and are in OUTPUT que. So you volume may not be draining for those jobs that have OUTPUT in the QUE column PREFIX=* DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Queue/A SYSNAME= NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos DB2DWLMX STC06960 DB2DWLMX 15 EXECUTION DC0PWLMX STC06991 DC0PWLMX 15 EXECUTION DC0PWLMC STC07037 DC0PWLMC 15 EXECUTION BPXASSTC07047 OMVSKERN 15 EXECUTION DC0PWLMC STC07091 DC0PWLMC 15 EXECUTION DC0PWLMC STC07154 DC0PWLMC 15 EXECUTION TKW9486C JOB01950 KW94869 1 OUTPUT C TKW9486B JOB02847 KW94869 1 OUTPUT C TMA14JOB05088 MA14359 1 OUTPUT Y T571A1F JOB00644 XX571A1 1 OUTPUT D TSAM4JOB09581 SK15491 1 OUTPUT 8 --- NOTICE THE OUTPUT in the QUEUE column This needs to be released to complete processing TDBH8Q STC06788 TDBH8Q 1 OUTPUT TSJM003 JOB01201 SM14440 1 OUTPUT D SK15491X JOB05186 ENDAUTH 1 OUTPUT K TBECKYAA JOB06031 RB09772 1 OUTPUT 8 SASRPT1A JOB04390 CB16159 1 OUTPUT Z BMCMPA01 JOB00636 CB16159 1 OUTPUT Z TROS STC04932 TROS1 OUTPUT BRETTRMF JOB05418 BS41590 1 OUTPUT Z BRETTRMF JOB05428 BS41590 1 OUTPUT Z TSAM4JOB05810 SK15491 1 OUTPUT 8 The other command that is good is $DJOBQ,SPL=(V=xx) $D JQ,SPOOL=(V=DCSPL1) $HASP890 JOB(DSP2010) 243 $HASP890 JOB(DSP2010) STATUS=(AWAITING HARDCOPY),CLASS=A, $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY),HOLD=(NONE), $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(DCSPL1),TGS=1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0008) $HASP890 JOB(DSP3110) 244 $HASP890 JOB(DSP3110) STATUS=(AWAITING HARDCOPY),CLASS=A, $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY),HOLD=(NONE), $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(DCSPL1,2,3,4,5,6,7), --- Notice the multiple SPOOL volumes used $HASP890TGS=32,PERCENT=0.0274) $HASP890 JOB(DSP3115) 245 $HASP890 JOB(DSP3115) STATUS=(AWAITING HARDCOPY),CLASS=A, $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY),HOLD=(NONE), $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(DCSPL1,5),TGS=2, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0017) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angel Tamayo Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Procedure to verify OFFLOAD process Hi everyone, The challenge is change spool dasd type with offload process. We have been draining volumes and replacing them as they draining, but this takes too much time and we want to speed up the process. Other condition is that I can't add new volumes to spool because there is no room to new volumes I reach the limit (255). Some details of the environment: - It is a z/OS 1.8 monoplex. I did the offload process and I have next questions: 1.- The process followed to release a dasd was: 1) Offload a specific dasd, 2) drain the volume. After that the volume was 1% of the spool and never release all the spool that it had. What do I have to do to release all the spool of a volume? 2.- Is there any command to display how many units (jobs, started tasks, sysouts, etc.) were offloaded and any command to display how many units (jobs, started tasks, sysouts, etc.) reloaded ? or any other command or procedure to compare before and after of the process in order to verify it. I did the offload-reload process but until now I don't know how can I confirm that all offloaded was reloaded. Other details of the process: - The offload dataset was defined on a dasd, but I'm planning try it over a tape. - Also I'm planning to try drainning the volume first then offload. Any help will very appreciated Thanks in advance -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html --
Re: What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8?
Point IPCSPARM to the appropriate parmlib. At least that's what I do and it runs fine for me. Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8? I steplib to the 1.9 miglib and miglibe. What else is critical? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8?
Binyamin Dissen wrote: I steplib to the 1.9 miglib and miglibe. What else is critical? In addition to the parmlib requirement mentioned by Charles Hardee, consider whether you will be interested in JES or other areas of the system where two or more instances may be installed. You'll need to pick the program and parmlib libraries applicable to the ones that are actually of interest to you, adding them to TSOLIB and allocate operations that you'd use to prepare for use of the IPCS edition of your choice. If they have supplied command procedures or materials solely of interest during an ISPF session, add in either the permanent allocation or the use of LIBDEF and ALTLIB to bring them into the picture during use of the IPCS dialog. Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF REXX problem
*Am I the only one that uses the SDSF REXX interface ?
Or is is time to buf IBM ?
TIA
Thomas Berg
*
== Thomas Berg == wrote2008-04-30 14:37:
Hi!
I have a problem when running SDSF REXX commands.
When looping the returned isfrows after ISFEXEC ST command,
the second ISFACT returns INVALID COMMAND (and rc = 0).
I can't see why.
The REXX:
/* REXX */ Trace R
x = Isfcalls('ON')
isfprefix = 'S000TBE5'
isfcols = 'JNAME JOBID OWNERID JCLASS POS STATUS' ,
'SYSNAME WORKLOAD CPU TRANACT SRVCLS SRVCLASS ACTSYS' ,
'SYSAFF TOKEN PRTDEST'
Address SDSF 'ISFEXEC ST (ALTERNATE)'
isfcols2 = ,
'DDNAME STEPN PROCS DSID OCLASS RECCNT BYTECNT DSNAME'
Do i = 1 To isfrows
Address SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('token.i') ,
'PARM(NP ?)'
Trace N
Say rc
Say isfmsg
Do j = 1 To isfmsg2.0
Say isfmsg2.j
End
Do j = 1 To dsname.0
Say dsname.j
End
Trace R
End
x = Isfcalls('OFF')
Exit 0
The output:
2 *-* x = Isfcalls('ON')
0
3 *-* isfprefix = 'S000TBE5'
S000TBE5
4 *-* isfcols = 'JNAME JOBID OWNERID JCLASS POS STATUS' ,
'SYSNAME WORKLOAD CPU TRANACT SRVC
LS SRVCLASS ACTSYS' , 'SYSAFF TOKEN PRTDEST'
JNAME JOBID OWNERID JCLASS POS STATUS SYSNAME WORKLOAD
CPU TRANACT SRVCLS SRVCLASS ACTSYS SYSAFF TOKEN PRTDEST
7 *-* Address SDSF 'ISFEXEC ST (ALTERNATE)'
ISFEXEC ST (ALTERNATE)
8 *-* isfcols2 = ,
'DDNAME STEPN PROCS DSID OCLASS RE
CCNT BYTECNT DSNAME'
DDNAME STEPN PROCS DSID OCLASS RECCNT BYTECNT DSNAME
11 *-* Do i = 1 To isfrows
1
2
12 *-* Address SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('token.i') ,
'PARM(NP ?)'
ISFACT ST
TOKEN('6jkSNicbJpKic/D1m8LEQNp38PrbwuNA6yKmVtAgRrDmEzI1o1LFTisSNjQ6IReE4
tDw6OPDUEDj+XPw4rJGQOP4fPDrExO
CEgEGCBQ=') PARM(NP ?)
14 *-* Trace N
0
ISF754I Command 'PREFIX S000TBE5' generated from associated variable
ISFPREFIX.
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D002.JESMSGLG
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D003.JESJCL
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D004.JESYSMSG
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D104.?
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D108.?
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D111.?
27 *-* End
11 *-* Do i = 1 To isfrows
12 *-* Address SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('token.i') ,
'PARM(NP ?)'
ISFACT ST
TOKEN('6jkSNicbJpKic/D1esLEQNp38PrbwuNA67SCN30gRrDmEzI1o1LFTisSNjQ6IReE4
tDw6OPAUEDj+XPw4kpGQOP4c/DhUsT
K4vH1c+PDVMPi8fh849MUliAAAQYbNapb/Q768OPGPQ==') PARM(NP ?)
14 *-* Trace N
0
INVALID COMMAND
ISF754I Command 'PREFIX S000TBE5' generated from associated variable
ISFPREFIX.
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D002.JESMSGLG
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D003.JESJCL
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D004.JESYSMSG
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D104.?
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D108.?
S000TBE.S000TBE5.JOB01687.D111.?
27 *-* End
11 *-* Do i = 1 To isfrows
29 *-* x = Isfcalls('OFF')
0
30 *-* Exit 0
0
***
TIA
Thomas Berg
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Re: What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8?
On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:38:41 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I steplib to the 1.9 miglib and miglibe. What else is critical?
This is what I use.
3 clists... an invocation libdef that works by volser (sysres.. point to correct
release). I call it IPCSALT. And modified versions of BLSCLIBD (IPCSALTD)
and BLSCALTL (IPCSALTL) from hlq.SBLSCLI0 where all the references
to LIBDEFs via DATASET + DSN are changed to LIBRARY + DDNAME.
Here is just my invocation exec. Making modified copies of BLSCLIBD
and BLSCALTL are left as an exercise to the reader.
PROC 0 VOL(RESM60)
/*
/* SPECIAL IPCS CLIST TO BE INVOKED FROM TSO READY TO RUN AN IPCS
/* LEVEL THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE RUNNING OS LEVEL.
/*
/* SYNTAX: %IPCSALT OR %IPCSALT VOL(SYSRES)
/*
/* ONCE THIS CLIST IS INVOKED IT ENTERS ISPF.
/* TO INVOKE IPCS, TYPE TSO %IPCSALTD.
/*
/* THE CALLED IPCSALTD CLIST USES THE DDNAMES ALLOCATED IN
/* THIS CLIST FOR LIBDEFS VIA DDNAME (INSTEAD OF BY DSN).
/*
/* SYS1.MIGLIB/SYS1.SIEAMIGE ON VOL DOES NOT HAVE TO BE APF AUTHORIZED
/*
/* CONTROL LIST CONLIST SYMLIST MSG
WRITE
WRITE ALLOCATING IPCS LIBRARIES ON VOL
WRITE
/* ALLOC F(MIGLIB) DA('SYS1.MIGLIB') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE */
ALLOC F(MIGLIB) DA('SYS1.MIGLIB','SYS1.SIEAMIGE') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSCLI0) DA('SYS1.SBLSCLI0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSMSG0) DA('SYS1.SBLSMSG0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSPNL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSPNL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSKEL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSKEL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSTBL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSTBL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(IPCSPARM) DA('SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
TSOLIB ACTIVATE FILE(MIGLIB)
/* ISPSTART CMD(%IPCSALTD) */
WRITE ***
WRITE *** AFTER YOU ENTER ISPF, TYPE***
WRITE *** TSO %IPCSALTD TO INVOKE IPCS***
WRITE ***
ISPSTART PANEL([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NEWAPPL(ISP) NOLOGO
TSOLIB DEACTIVATE
FREE F(MIGLIB)
FREE F(SBLSCLI0)
FREE F(SBLSMSG0)
FREE F(SBLSPNL0)
FREE F(SBLSKEL0)
FREE F(SBLSTBL0)
WRITE
WRITE FINISHED DEALLOCATING IPCS LIBRARIES ON VOL
WRITE
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TCPIP OSA and ROUTER
This may be a very ignorant question. I am running Z/os 1.4 with TCPIP configured to go through a 7204 cicsco router. I want to convert to use QDIO and OSA on the Z/890. Is it possible to have my IP parms point to both devices at the same time? i.e., this is the device stmt for my router ; DEVICE TNCPA01R CLAW A00 MVS WTNCPA01 NONE LINK TNCPA01 IP 0 TNCPA01R and then add a different device statement for my OSA and a different/additional HOME address? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCPIP OSA and ROUTER
Yes do you need examples of a OSA setup? Does your OSA card support ICC if so you can have your consoles of of the OSA and setup some terminals off of it also. Michael Saraco Systems Consultant Baer Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Melissa Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 05/02/2008 08:38 AM Subject: TCPIP OSA and ROUTER This may be a very ignorant question. I am running Z/os 1.4 with TCPIP configured to go through a 7204 cicsco router. I want to convert to use QDIO and OSA on the Z/890. Is it possible to have my IP parms point to both devices at the same time? i.e., this is the device stmt for my router ; DEVICE TNCPA01R CLAW A00 MVS WTNCPA01 NONE LINK TNCPA01 IP 0 TNCPA01R and then add a different device statement for my OSA and a different/additional HOME address? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PCOM and trailing blanks in copy paste
I realized that this could be done with standalone VBScript (it still uses IE under the covers): http://members.tripod.com/billlalonde/misc/trimclip.txt It should be saved as a .vbs file (.txt makes it easier to view it). Bill On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:26:58 -0500, Big Iron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is simpler or not. I think that if you save this txt file as somename.HTA and open it using MS IE: http://members.tripod.com/billlalonde/misc/clip.txt then, the imbedded script removes trailing blanks from lines in the clipboard when you click the button. Bill On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:51:48 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:45:55 -0500, Zaromil Tisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any user of IBM PCOM know a way to change the cut and paste behaviour so that trailing blanks are (automatically) stripped off? I have found no parameter to do that. So, if I want to paste something from the screen into a mail, the easiest way I found is to copy the data into a variable dataset with preserve trailing blanks = no and the ftp the dataset to my pc. Anyone having a simpler solution (whatever simpler means)? I don't. But you can skip the copy into the VB data set with QUOTE SITE NOTRAIL or SITE NOTRAIL. One more question: is there a possibility to disable truncate the trailing blanks prompt every time I save a dataset that already has preserve trailing blanks = no in the profile? See the EDSET command. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCPIP OSA and ROUTER
I just went through this same exercise last year. Is there some reason you don't want to simply bring up a second stack? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Perry Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:TCPIP OSA and ROUTER This may be a very ignorant question. I am running Z/os 1.4 with TCPIP configured to go through a 7204 cicsco router. I want to convert to use QDIO and OSA on the Z/890. Is it possible to have my IP parms point to both devices at the same time? i.e., this is the device stmt for my router ; DEVICE TNCPA01R CLAW A00 MVS WTNCPA01 NONE LINK TNCPA01 IP 0 TNCPA01R and then add a different device statement for my OSA and a different/additional HOME address? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is needed to run IPCS against 1.9 on 1.8?
On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:11:52 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:38:41 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I steplib to the 1.9 miglib and miglibe. What else is critical?
This is what I use.
3 clists... an invocation libdef that works by volser (sysres.. point to
correct
release). I call it IPCSALT. And modified versions of BLSCLIBD (IPCSALTD)
and BLSCALTL (IPCSALTL) from hlq.SBLSCLI0 where all the references
to LIBDEFs via DATASET + DSN are changed to LIBRARY + DDNAME.
Here is just my invocation exec. Making modified copies of BLSCLIBD
and BLSCALTL are left as an exercise to the reader.
Guess I never tested this from anything but the current system when
I added in SIEAMIGE. You can't use VOLSER for an uncataloged
concatenation with TSO ALLOCATE. The way I deal with that is to
use BPXWDYN since it is supported. You can also use one of the
CONCAT flavors floating around. So here is my updated
IPCSALT CLIST:
PROC 0 VOL(RESM90)
/*
/* SPECIAL IPCS CLIST TO BE INVOKED FROM TSO READY TO RUN AN IPCS
/* LEVEL THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE RUNNING OS LEVEL.
/*
/* SYNTAX: %IPCSALT OR %IPCSALT VOL(SYSRES)
/*
/* ONCE THIS CLIST IS INVOKED IT ENTERS ISPF.
/* TO INVOKE IPCS, TYPE TSO %IPCSALTD.
/*
/* THE CALLED IPCSALTD CLIST USES THE DDNAMES ALLOCATED IN
/* THIS CLIST FOR LIBDEFS VIA DDNAME (INSTEAD OF BY DSN).
/*
/* SYS1.MIGLIB/SYS1.SIEAMIGE ON VOL DOES NOT HAVE TO BE APF AUTHORIZED
/*
/* CONTROL LIST CONLIST SYMLIST MSG
WRITE
WRITE ALLOCATING IPCS LIBRARIES ON VOL
WRITE
ALLOC F(MIGLIB) DA('SYS1.MIGLIB') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SIEAMIGE) DA('SYS1.SIEAMIGE') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSCLI0) DA('SYS1.SBLSCLI0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSMSG0) DA('SYS1.SBLSMSG0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSPNL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSPNL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSKEL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSKEL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(SBLSTBL0) DA('SYS1.SBLSTBL0') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
ALLOC F(IPCSPARM) DA('SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB') VOL(VOL) SHR REUSE
/* CONCAT (MIGLIB,SIEAMIGE)*/
/* */
/* IPCSMIG IS A REXX THAT CONTAINS */
/* CALL BPXWDYN 'CONCAT DDLIST(MIGLIB,SIEAMIGE) MSG(2)'*/
/* IN ORDER TO CONCATENATE 2 UNCATALOGED DATA SETS */
%IPCSMIG
TSOLIB ACTIVATE FILE(MIGLIB)
/* ISPSTART CMD(%IPCSALTD) */
WRITE ***
WRITE *** AFTER YOU ENTER ISPF, TYPE***
WRITE *** TSO %IPCSALTD TO INVOKE IPCS***
WRITE ***
ISPSTART PANEL([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NEWAPPL(ISR) NOLOGO
TSOLIB DEACTIVATE
FREE F(MIGLIB)
FREE F(SBLSCLI0)
FREE F(SBLSMSG0)
FREE F(SBLSPNL0)
FREE F(SBLSKEL0)
FREE F(SBLSTBL0)
WRITE
WRITE FINISHED DEALLOCATING IPCS LIBRARIES ON VOL
WRITE
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team
Concatenating Uncataloged Data Sets w/CLIST (was Re: What is needed to run IPCS ...)
On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:26:11 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Changed the subject You can't use VOLSER for an uncataloged concatenation with TSO ALLOCATE. The way I deal with that is to use BPXWDYN since it is supported. You can also use one of the CONCAT flavors floating around. snip Does anyone know another / better way? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCPIP OSA and ROUTER
This is pretty common especially with VIPA...For totally redundancy. The IBM TCPIP manuals using VIPA have pretty good examples. Worked in brokerage for the NY Stock Exchange we did this a lot. Scott Ford Senior Host Developer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main) 678.266.3399 x304 | (Cell) 609.346.0399 | (Fax) 678.266.3399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain priviledged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Perry Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TCPIP OSA and ROUTER This may be a very ignorant question. I am running Z/os 1.4 with TCPIP configured to go through a 7204 cicsco router. I want to convert to use QDIO and OSA on the Z/890. Is it possible to have my IP parms point to both devices at the same time? i.e., this is the device stmt for my router ; DEVICE TNCPA01R CLAW A00 MVS WTNCPA01 NONE LINK TNCPA01 IP 0 TNCPA01R and then add a different device statement for my OSA and a different/additional HOME address? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCRT LMS site problems?
Hi All, Is anybody else having problems submitting SCRT reports via the LMS website this morning? We _think_ we submitted ours, but have not received any response yet (it's been 3 hours so far). Earlier we had received notification of a scheduled outage for Sunday, May 4, but . TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCRT LMS site problems?
John, Yes, I'm having difficulties with the SCRT LMS site also. Getting 'page not found' during at signin. Paul -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
I have not seen this problem but Ndm has different levels of compression. Do you know what level of compression was used? I think level 1 is the default. George Mansell UMB Bank 816-860-1149 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Tom, we have had similar issues where it impacts performance too. What we did was to assign it to a Resource Group to keep it from hurting others while still giving it enough resources to get its work done. Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Office 856 566-5412 * Mobile 609 781-0353 * Fax 856 566-3656 CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
On Fri, 2 May 2008 10:53:02 -0500, Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many engines you have). Of course this assumes other more important work is getting done.But my point is VEL=50 is very high for an IMP=4 workload (IMO). Are you sure other higher important work wasn't meeting goals (what do RMF reports or RMF III tell you). If they weren't then you probably shouldn't have seen NDM's DP higher than the work that was missing goals. I say probably... not definitely because WLM won't make the DP higher if it doesn't think it will help (other factors causing delay). Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? There are lots of things you can do / try. Lower the velocity, Imp=5, discretionary, resource group with a MAX. Maybe the work that had problems is also not classified correctly (as opposed to this work). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IND$FILE question
Hey Steve and Ed, It isn't the action bar LIST option. It is something in the way the emulators are set up but for the life of me I can't find it. We're all using the same emulator but I haven't been able to find anything in the emulator that would indicate this behavior. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE question Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Hi List, I don't know if it is lack of sleep or just a bad day, but a programmer came to me with a strange question that I can't find an answer to. We are using IND$FILE to transfer small files from PCs to a PDS on TSO. The users log onto TSO/ISPF then navigate to the ISPF command shell (standard option 6) screen then run their send or receive command from Rumba. When I run the command, TSO places the IND$FILE command in my TSO history (or command recall) line so I can see what was run. When my colleague runs the same command, TSO does NOT place the IND$FILE command in his command recall area of the ISPF panel. I have checked the TSO PROFILEs for both sessions and they are identical. Any idea as to why mine would keep the command and his wouldn't? TIA. Rex On the ISPF option 6 panel, there is an action bar at the top. The second choice is List; this can be set as Update on or Update off. If you want to preserve the command in the list, set Update on. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many engines you have). Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over a period of time, that 50% of the time that the work was eligible to be dispatched it actually was dispatched. Arguably this is an extremely crude and ill-conceived way of defining a performance goal, but it's the one we were given :-( But my point is VEL=50 is very high for an IMP=4 workload (IMO). Often true, but not necessarily. (playing devil's advocate :-) CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: File format for an unloaded partitioned data set?
2008/5/2 Roger Bowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a few unloaded partitioned data sets dating back to the 70's. I'd like to extract some members from them (on a Linux system). Are there any tools for this? Is there any documentation about this file format? -- hendrik --end of message What format are these unloaded PDS files? If they are in iebcopy unloaded xmit format, one way to do this would be to use the Hercules dasdload utility to create a virtual DASD volume (awsckd format) and load your xmit files onto it, and then use the dasdpdsu utility to extract members from the datasets. See http://www.hercules-390.org/hercload.html#PDS However, I don't think xmit format existed in the 1970's, XMIT came in with MVS SP1 and TSO/E, in the very early 1980s. so maybe your PDS are unloaded in iehmove format? IEBCOPY unload does not depend on XMIT; XMIT uses IEBCOPY as part of packaging up PDSs into XMIT files. IEBCOPY unload came with SVS, in the early 1970s, and was far easier to use than IEHMOVE for PDSs, so it is quite likely that an unloaded PDS on tape from then would be in IEBCOPY format. The quick way to tell is to look at the record format on tape; if it's fixed with blksize=800, then it's IEHMOVE. If it's VB, then it's IEBCOPY. If this is the case you could install the Turnkey system http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ which is a complete working MVS 3.8 system for Linux and Windows containing everything you need to load and process these files. Indeed. Or of course if you have a modern z/OS system, but no drive on which you can read the old tapes, then you can read the tapes using a suitable Linux utility (dd), transfer the file to z/OS, write it out to a tape, or a sequential file, and run the modern utility to restore. With IEBCOPY, you may have trouble with the VB files. FTP might be a way to maintain the RDWs and such in this case. As for documentation, both formats are de facto documented in the source code for the respective utilities, and to some extent in the PLMs available at bitsavers and other places. Neither format is highly complex, and there is no compression, so writing a program to do it on your own is not extremely complex. And finally, if you just want to get your data, and can physically read the tapes, I'm sure there are many people who would be happy to convert your data for you on a friendly basis. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
- Original Message - From: Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many engines you have). Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over a period of time, that 50% of the time that the work was eligible to be dispatched it actually was dispatched. Arguably this is an extremely crude and ill-conceived way of defining a performance goal, but it's the one we were given :-( But my point is VEL=50 is very high for an IMP=4 workload (IMO). Often true, but not necessarily. (playing devil's advocate :-) CC With apologies to Crash, I gotta go with Z. Velocity 50 for an importance 4 workload is way high. I would guess also that nothing else was impacted, so WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. It's not a problem unless you had other higher importance workload affected. Make sure you have all the APARs on for WLM. If higher importance workload was affected, then open a PMR. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many engines you have). Not even close if you have I/O included in the definition of VELOCITY. (A viable option since they removed disconnect time as a component for calculating velocity ~OS/390 2.8, iirc) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Is it possible that NDM needs to be tuned (region size, internal config parameters, etc) to be able to better handle large files? Lots of CPU usage for an extended period of time is to me an indicator of a problem with the application. Even the process of compressing a file should not take lots of CPU for an extended period of time, as you indicated. Which brings up a question: How big was the file? Have you tried compressing it outside of NDM and then sending the compressed file as-is, without NDM performing any further compression on it? You might want to talk to the software vendor ... are there any patches addressing this issue that should be installed? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 08:53 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:38:52 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: - Original Message - From: Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:17 PM Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over a period of time, that 50% of the time that the work was eligible to be dispatched it actually was dispatched. Arguably this is an extremely crude and ill-conceived way of defining a performance goal, but it's the one we were given :-( But my point is VEL=50 is very high for an IMP=4 workload (IMO). Often true, but not necessarily. (playing devil's advocate :-) With apologies to Crash, I gotta go with Z. Velocity 50 for an importance 4 workload is way high. I would guess also that nothing else was impacted, so WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. It's not a problem unless you had other higher importance workload affected. Well, I disagree with your it's not a problem statement because OP said, This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. The softcap issue could be resolved by Dave Thorn's suggestion of putting it into a resource group with a max specification. Other sites may not necessarily have the bandwidth to support NDM eating half an engine; if the bottleneck is in the pipe then they won't necessarily see ugly CPU consumption. -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Concatenating Uncataloged Data Sets w/CLIST (was Re: What is needed to run IPCS ...)
On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:40:40 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: You can't use VOLSER for an uncataloged concatenation with TSO ALLOCATE. The way I deal with that is to use BPXWDYN since it is supported. You can also use one of the CONCAT flavors floating around. Does anyone know another / better way? If better means reducing the parts count, you could eliminate the IPCSMIG Rexx glue by CALLing BPXWDYN directly from the CLIST. (Of course, I'd rewrite the whole thing in Rexx.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Concatenating Uncataloged Data Sets w/CLIST (was Re: What is needed to run IPCS ...)
On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:03:01 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2008 11:57:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:40:40 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: You can't use VOLSER for an uncataloged concatenation with TSO ALLOCATE. The way I deal with that is to use BPXWDYN since it is supported. You can also use one of the CONCAT flavors floating around. Does anyone know another / better way? If better means reducing the parts count, you could eliminate the IPCSMIG Rexx glue by CALLing BPXWDYN directly from the CLIST. (Of course, I'd rewrite the whole thing in Rexx.) You can't use TSOLIB from REXX or I *would* have the entire thing in REXX. You have to queue it to the stack and that won't execute until you leave the REXX. Which means using something up front to get the TSOLIB in place. Even more confusing Sorta missed part of what you wrote. Good point... I should be able to use CALL *(BPXWDYN) 'CONCAT DDLIST(MIGLIB,SIEAMIGE) MSG(2)' Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup
What happens with OAM and the VOLCAT when you run in a Client/Server configuration? I'm currently running 2 LPARs sharing the VOLCAT and the RMM files. Will I still need to share the VOLCAT between the 2 systems? I've also been unable to find the default port that RMM will use on TCPIP. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Concatenating Uncataloged Data Sets w/CLIST (was Re: What is needed to run IPCS ...)
On Fri, 2 May 2008 11:57:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:40:40 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: You can't use VOLSER for an uncataloged concatenation with TSO ALLOCATE. The way I deal with that is to use BPXWDYN since it is supported. You can also use one of the CONCAT flavors floating around. Does anyone know another / better way? If better means reducing the parts count, you could eliminate the IPCSMIG Rexx glue by CALLing BPXWDYN directly from the CLIST. (Of course, I'd rewrite the whole thing in Rexx.) You can't use TSOLIB from REXX or I *would* have the entire thing in REXX. You have to queue it to the stack and that won't execute until you leave the REXX. Which means using something up front to get the TSOLIB in place. Even more confusing Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
I disagree with compression not taking a lot of cpu seconds, it does. I worked for XCOM 6.2 support at Legent, trust me, we told customers if they are running 'large pipes' i.e' T1s or T3s or Channel extenders do no compress, its buys you nothing and just eats cpus seconds..We had about 3000+ customers on MVS/VM/VSE Scott Ford Senior Host Developer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main) 678.266.3399 x304 | (Cell) 609.346.0399 | (Fax) 678.266.3399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain priviledged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Krueger Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage Is it possible that NDM needs to be tuned (region size, internal config parameters, etc) to be able to better handle large files? Lots of CPU usage for an extended period of time is to me an indicator of a problem with the application. Even the process of compressing a file should not take lots of CPU for an extended period of time, as you indicated. Which brings up a question: How big was the file? Have you tried compressing it outside of NDM and then sending the compressed file as-is, without NDM performing any further compression on it? You might want to talk to the software vendor ... are there any patches addressing this issue that should be installed? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 08:53 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. It's not a problem unless you had other higher importance workload affected. Well, I disagree with your it's not a problem statement because OP said, This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. The softcap issue could be resolved by Dave Thorn's suggestion of putting it into a resource group with a max specification. I should have been clearer by saying it's not a problem with WLM. If the SOFTCAP is the problem, then I agree that you should use a resource group to limit CPU. That will also cause NDM to run longer. We turned off compression in our file transfer product (not NDM) because we found that the transmit time savings were negligible compared to the CPU used to compress/decompress the data. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
I had some issues with the system, but not like you are talking about. Oh, and when you re-order it might ALL come in again! I had to order twice and got two shipments. I also opened an issue and got just the tapes. BTW, we got ours on two 3590 compressed tapes. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2008 01:48:02 PM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues --- Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1. 9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Tom said With apologies to Crash, I gotta go with Z. Velocity 50 for an importance 4 workload is way high. I would guess also that nothing else was impacted, so WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. In theory an application that has low cpu demands can achieve a relatively high velocity -unless- the higher importance work is using all of the processor resource. Now I agree that in reality it is more often the case that higher importance work -does- use all of the processor resource and lower importance work struggles to get anything at all, but it really does depend on the demands the work is making on the system. It's not a problem unless you had other higher importance workload affected. If higher importance work is getting hurt by lower importance work then there's some sort of APAR-able defect at play. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
I have even worst horror stories with shopZ. I have 2 new processors. But shopz shows 1 new processor and 2 old ones that we no longer have. I have been on the phone with Shopz and IBM to clear this up. I hope I can get my z/OS v1r9 order before long because I have it planned to be implemented before Sept this year. Edouard A. Myers Senior Information Technology Specialist Office of the Chief Technology Officer DC Government 222 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20001 Phone : 202-727-4017 Fax: 202-727-3880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Haven't had that particular issue. ordered z/OS 1.8 from Shopzseries in October 2006 and it did the download just fine, no license issues. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
I think it's a pain in the rear end. I'm going to be doing a serverpac for 1.9 in a couple of months; plan to order it on tape by phone to bypass all that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, 02 May, 2008 01:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Well, I like the resource group solution but I have to wonder how well STCLOW does normally with a vel = 50 at imp. 4. I might think that this is a never achieving goal service class from all of what might be in STCLOW, but of course I could be way wrong too. I'd resource cap max it, CD, and also look at STCLOW to see if maybe that needs a tweak. Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IND$FILE question
Is it possible that the other person has tso ind$file instead of the default as the host command specified in the file transfer settings? Bill On Fri, 2 May 2008 11:08:59 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve and Ed, It isn't the action bar LIST option. It is something in the way the emulators are set up but for the life of me I can't find it. We're all using the same emulator but I haven't been able to find anything in the emulator that would indicate this behavior. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE question Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Hi List, I don't know if it is lack of sleep or just a bad day, but a programmer came to me with a strange question that I can't find an answer to. We are using IND$FILE to transfer small files from PCs to a PDS on TSO. The users log onto TSO/ISPF then navigate to the ISPF command shell (standard option 6) screen then run their send or receive command from Rumba. When I run the command, TSO places the IND$FILE command in my TSO history (or command recall) line so I can see what was run. When my colleague runs the same command, TSO does NOT place the IND$FILE command in his command recall area of the ISPF panel. I have checked the TSO PROFILEs for both sessions and they are identical. Any idea as to why mine would keep the command and his wouldn't? TIA. Rex On the ISPF option 6 panel, there is an action bar at the top. The second choice is List; this can be set as Update on or Update off. If you want to preserve the command in the list, set Update on. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IND$FILE question
Hi Brian, Thanks for the suggestions. I finally found it. It is a setting in Rumba called verify host screen. My purpose in having the users run it thru ISPF option 6 rather than a straight TSO prompt is that when it doesn't work, I want the command line saved so I can troubleshoot it. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE question Are you using the same terminal emulator? It is up to the terminal emulator whether to move the cursor to the HOME position, or leave the cursor exactly where it was when the file transfer was initiated. Maybe the terminal emulator has an option for the user to select the cursor starting position. Are you using different ISPF option 6 screens? The normal one is ISRTSO, but you can set up your ISPF to use ISRTSOA (which provides a command line). History on ISRTSOA only applies to the TSO command history, not the command line above that. I always tell my people who have trouble with IND$FILE that it always works correctly from TSO READY. It will *sometimes* work from ISPF option 6, but it will *always* work from TSO READY. I've seen problems where the data set name was really long and the command was truncated (when using ISPF option 6) and the same transfer command works perfectly when started from TSO READY. Of course, there's no history in TSO READY like ISPF option 6. Just a couple of thoughts. Brian On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Hi List, I don't know if it is lack of sleep or just a bad day, but a programmer came to me with a strange question that I can't find an answer to. We are using IND$FILE to transfer small files from PCs to a PDS on TSO. The users log onto TSO/ISPF then navigate to the ISPF command shell (standard option 6) screen then run their send or receive command from Rumba. When I run the command, TSO places the IND$FILE command in my TSO history (or command recall) line so I can see what was run. When my colleague runs the same command, TSO does NOT place the IND$FILE command in his command recall area of the ISPF panel. I have checked the TSO PROFILEs for both sessions and they are identical. Any idea as to why mine would keep the command and his wouldn't? TIA. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
Hi listers: I have searched IBM BOOKS web site and can't seem to find where FCB's are documented. I know they reside in Sys1.imagelib. Can anyone point me to a manual? Thank you in advance. kind regards, Roberto I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Lizette, I ran into this when I ordered 1.7, but I had uploaded a fresh (and complete) consolidated inventory report, so it just caused a minor delay and a phone call to get the process moving again. When I ordered 1.8 (just under the wire time wise), I had to order without a consolidated inventory report because my 1.7 wasn't installed yet. I did the same thing you did for a couple of products, also not realizing how painful that would be. Anyway, while I was a Share in Tampa, (Feb 07) this issue came up in one of the sessions. Apparently, there have been quite a few folks who have tried to slip in a few extra products, causing lots of upset too. After the first sign in page for Shop zSeries there is a link for My Licensed Software. You get the report immediately and it includes all the info you might need to verify with an invoice, including dates for all of the software that Shop zSeries has you licensed for. I have found that report most helpful in that if anything is not as it should be, it is much easier to correct before you do your Shop zSeries order. Depending on the products, you might not have to resubmit your order. My understanding is that dynamic activation products ship with every order, so you could turn then on later with the parmlib update. Have you tried internet delivery for your ServerPac? I have done it and I like it. It's much faster. Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
Hi listers; I have searched IBM online books and can't seem to find where FCB's are documented. Can anyone point me to a manual? Thanks in advance. (Have a good weekend) Kind regards, Roberto On 5/2/08, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve and Ed, It isn't the action bar LIST option. It is something in the way the emulators are set up but for the life of me I can't find it. We're all using the same emulator but I haven't been able to find anything in the emulator that would indicate this behavior. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE question Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Hi List, I don't know if it is lack of sleep or just a bad day, but a programmer came to me with a strange question that I can't find an answer to. We are using IND$FILE to transfer small files from PCs to a PDS on TSO. The users log onto TSO/ISPF then navigate to the ISPF command shell (standard option 6) screen then run their send or receive command from Rumba. When I run the command, TSO places the IND$FILE command in my TSO history (or command recall) line so I can see what was run. When my colleague runs the same command, TSO does NOT place the IND$FILE command in his command recall area of the ISPF panel. I have checked the TSO PROFILEs for both sessions and they are identical. Any idea as to why mine would keep the command and his wouldn't? TIA. Rex On the ISPF option 6 panel, there is an action bar at the top. The second choice is List; this can be set as Update on or Update off. If you want to preserve the command in the list, set Update on. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
Try looking at the MVS DFP Utilities manual, SC26-7414. The utility that you need is IEBIMAGE. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER - Original Message - From: Bonno, Tuco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I think it's a pain in the rear end. I'm going to be doing a serverpac for 1.9 in a couple of months; plan to order it on tape by phone to bypass all that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, 02 May, 2008 01:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
John: Thank you for answering. That's the one. Thanks again, Roberto On 5/2/08, John Laubenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try looking at the MVS DFP Utilities manual, SC26-7414. The utility that you need is IEBIMAGE. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
See http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/DOCNUM/SC26-7414/CCONTENTS? for links to the various levels of the z/OS: DFSMSdfp Utilities book. See the FCB statement for the IEBIMAGE utility. Depending on what you're doing, you probably don't want to create new ones. You can format line data better using PSF and pagedefs and formdefs. See the PSF 4.1 bookshelf here http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/SHELVES/apsbk400.bks it also discusses FCBs. Roger Bolan Software Engineer infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2008 03:08:21 PM: Hi listers: I have searched IBM BOOKS web site and can't seem to find where FCB's are documented. I know they reside in Sys1.imagelib. Can anyone point me to a manual? Thank you in advance. kind regards, Roberto I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Linda, Yes my shop loves the internet process for serverpac. This came about because our z/OS V1.7 order was incorrectly created and somehow in that process IBM appears to have lost our license for PSF even though it is installed and properly licensed. I will definitely spend some time at the next SHARE I attend with the ShopzSeries group. I find their website is not idiot proof. Lizette []-- Snip I ran into this when I ordered 1.7, but I had uploaded a fresh (and complete) consolidated inventory report, so it just caused a minor delay and a phone call to get the process moving again. When I ordered 1.8 (just under the wire time wise), I had to order without a consolidated inventory report because my 1.7 wasn't installed yet. I did the same thing you did for a couple of products, also not realizing how painful that would be. Anyway, while I was a Share in Tampa, (Feb 07) this issue came up in one of the sessions. Apparently, there have been quite a few folks who have tried to slip in a few extra products, causing lots of upset too. After the first sign in page for Shop zSeries there is a link for My Licensed Software. You get the report immediately and it includes all the info you might need to verify with an invoice, including dates for all of the software that Shop zSeries has you licensed for. I have found that report most helpful in that if anything is not as it should be, it is much easier to correct before you do your Shop zSeries order. Depending on the products, you might not have to resubmit your order. My understanding is that dynamic activation products ship with every order, so you could turn then on later with the parmlib update. Have you tried internet delivery for your ServerPac? I have done it and I like it. It's much faster. [] -- UnSnip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
Thank you, Roger. That's another option I had not considered. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roger Bolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/DOCNUM/SC26-7414/CCONTENTS ? for links to the various levels of the z/OS: DFSMSdfp Utilities book. See the FCB statement for the IEBIMAGE utility. Depending on what you're doing, you probably don't want to create new ones. You can format line data better using PSF and pagedefs and formdefs. See the PSF 4.1 bookshelf here http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/SHELVES/apsbk400.bks it also discusses FCBs. Roger Bolan Software Engineer infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2008 03:08:21 PM: Hi listers: I have searched IBM BOOKS web site and can't seem to find where FCB's are documented. I know they reside in Sys1.imagelib. Can anyone point me to a manual? Thank you in advance. kind regards, Roberto I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage
Kelman, Tom wrote: We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4. It was still running at a high DP and grabbed the CPU. I can't understand why a task that is basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much CPU. My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the most efficient in the world. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct? What, if anything, did you do to control it? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 What is the bandwidth between your site and the other site? Which model z9BC? Depending on which model I would make a wild guess that a link that has enough available bandwidth to keep a CPU on most z9BC's 50-60% busy for 2 hours would be fast enough not to need compression. Does Connect:Direct have an option to encrypt the data on the fly? Could that be turned on? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
I guess, your company might find it interesting to know that ftp and the internet has been around for a few months now, some of us are actually using it. . We keep a 54GB zfs file mounted at /DownloadDirector for products, serverpacs and maintenance, z/OS team uses it, DB2 team uses it, Network team uses it, CICS team uses it, etc., etc. and we run skulker to clean it up periodically - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Concatenating Uncataloged Data Sets w/CLIST (was Re: What is needed to run IPCS ...)
On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:10:49 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: You can't use TSOLIB from REXX or I *would* have the entire thing in REXX. You have to queue it to the stack and that won't execute until you leave the REXX. Which means using something up front to get the TSOLIB in place. Even more confusing Thanks. YLSED. Sorta missed part of what you wrote. Good point... I should be able to use CALL *(BPXWDYN) 'CONCAT DDLIST(MIGLIB,SIEAMIGE) MSG(2)' In your circumstance, I'd be inclined to use MSG(WTP) rather than MSG(2). But I've already been wrong once today. YMMV. And I've sometimes had to mix metaphors in Rexx: several address TSO allocate ... (can't CALL *(BPXWDYN) 'alloc ...' because of the 100-char PARM limit), followed by CALL *(BPXWDYN) 'concat ...'. Ugh. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Forms Control Buffer (FCB)
-snip--- I have searched IBM BOOKS web site and can't seem to find where FCB's are documented. I know they reside in Sys1.imagelib. Can anyone point me to a manual? ---unsnip-- Look in the doc for the IEBIMAGE utility. I also have a macro that will build a FCB for you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Barry Schwarz writes: If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did. :-) z/OS includes UNIX(TM). - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
