[lace] Re: lace-digest V2005 #333
AND... Having said THAT, I also wonder, WHERE IS EVERYBODY??? The list has been quiet for an unusually long time! Come back! Say Hello? Just let us know you haven't gone away!! (OK - lurkers - here's your big chance to just say HI!) Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI !! Hendrika memb.of Simcoe County Lacemakers Simcoe County ( township of Springwater ) Ontario - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas Ornament
A question recently came to me about Christmas ornaments and their patterns. So.I put the question to all of you. What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? For Christmas patterns, I like Brigitte Bellon's Kloppeln zur Weihnachtszeit (Bobbin Lace Christmas Patterns). There are a couple ornaments in Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings by Kortelahti, but this source is not helpful if you don't have miniature paper strings available. Please write about your favorite patterns. Alice in Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace]re: what am I doing?
Clay asked what were we up to? Well I do not post often but do try to keep up with the postings. At the moment I am making a rose motif in Chantilly lace in a thread which is a pale blue/grey colour and is unboiled 3 ply silk 250 thickness (very, very fine). I got the thread from Leif Christensen in Denmark after consulting with you wonderful people and I am having a wonderful if somewhat challenging time. The instructions in the book are not in english and I have been told I should have used the gimp double (this is 6 ply boiled silk 120 thickness) but as I have already done quite a bit I think I will finish as it is and make a better effort next time. I must try and get on a class with Lia Baumeister. Sue M Farnborough, Hants UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace]re: what am I doing?
Clay asked what were we up to? Well I do not post often but do try to keep up with the postings. At the moment I am making a rose motif in Chantilly lace in a thread which is a pale blue/grey colour and is unboiled 3 ply silk 250 thickness (very, very fine). I got the thread from Leif Christensen in Denmark after consulting with you wonderful people and I am having a wonderful if somewhat challenging time. The instructions in the book are not in english and I have been told I should have used the gimp double (this is 6 ply boiled silk 120 thickness) but as I have already done quite a bit I think I will finish as it is and make a better effort next time. I must try and get on a class with Lia Baumeister. Sue M Farnboroughm Hants, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace]re:poems
Noelene I love your poems - have you done a book of these? Sue M Farnborough, Hants UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton, New Zealand.
Thank you all for your replies to my question about the Honiton Museum. I am glad I was correct when I passed on the information to the lady who commented!! She then said she would browse the web before she went to England again, and check Honiton more thoroughly, so I hope she find the lace eventually. I felt Sure there Must be lace at Honiton!!! Next Question!! - Are there any lacemakers in or around Auckland who could teach a lady lacemaking? She is here on a visit, and saw us demonstrating today and wants to learn when she goes home! She is in the Howick area of Auckland, I believe. I suggested she look for the NZ Lace Guild on the web. If anyone can help, I will pass on your message to her. Many thanks. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy and around (long)
Hi All Back again after a great day out in Garrucha yesterday. More of that later However, back to lace in France. Having collected the 'passsport' in Arlanc we discovered that there was another lace museum in Briode which not too far for us to drive so decided to spend the afternoon there. This turned out to be a fantastic treat. In the 70's a local lacemaker, Madam Arpin, realised that lacemaking was in danger of dying out and decided to do something about it. However, instead of just teaching traditional local lace, she took it one step further and started using colour and 3D techniques. Some of the stunning results are on display in the museum, along with traditional antique lace. All beautifully laid out and lit. Once again an assistant showed us round, making sure we didn't miss anything. The museum has a website http://www.hoteldeladentelle.com/ It's all in French but some of the pictures are good (if you find the one of the salmon - it's actually about one metre long). There were actually 2 place to visit, the school and the museum which are about 5 doors apart. There was a gentleman doing a 'bracelet' (made a change from the snake or 'bandage' which I started with) in lovely chunky thread. Apparently he's been in the museum in the morning , was so taken with the concept and that he had signed up for a afternoon lesson on the spot! Brilliant day and long suffering DH actually seemed to enjoy it. Next day and it was off to Le Puy in the morning and then on to Retournac in the afternoon. Le Puy turnrd out to be a bit of a disappointment. We visited on Saturday and there were no students in the school and not a great deal of lace on display. Unfortunately the Atelier Conservatoire National de la Dentelle du Puy-en-Velay is currently shut while the building is completly renovated and it's not due to re-open until Feb 2007. Talking to lacemakers in some of the shops, this would appear to be a conservative date - they reckon it's more likely to be 2009!!! I'll just have to go back again in a few years time :-) The lace shops are real 'tourist traps'. A very tiny amount of locally made lace, lots of handmade lace (probably imported from China) and an awful lot of little 'machine/chemical lace' motifs. The later were hardly ever marked as being machine made and there must be an awful lot of people who buy them convinced that they are buying hand-made lace. Great shame. Retournac is an hours drive from Le Puy along a stunning road which follows the Gorge du Peyredeyre. The day out was worth it just for the drive. Saturday afternoon was definately the best day to visit Retournac as the local lacemakers meet up to make lace within the museum. The museum was fascinating, lots of really good 'information' sheets along with the exhibits, even DH stopped to read them! The group of lacemakers were great, a mixed bunch of old and young including a couple of little girls. My very rusty French got a good battering as I tried to explain Bucks techniques to them (I carried a bucks bookmark to show that I was a lacemaker). Then followed a discussion on Spanish lace (as I'd told them that I lived in Spain) which ended with a demontration of how to do 'leaves' 'in the air' rather than 'on the pillow'. An interesting afternoon and well worth the trip. The shop had all the 'pattern packs' available as well as a good selection of books and other supplies. I was good and didn't treat myself to any more 'essentil supplies'. However, having done 4 museums in 2 days, DH's patience was wearing thin and I had to promise 'no more lace' for the rest of the holiday. If you happen to be in this very beautiful area of France then please make the effort to visit one or more of the museums - you won't be disappointed. Retournac is also closed at the moment for 'works', I'm sure they'll let the list know when it re-opens. Report Lace Day in Garrucha coming later Pam Mattioli formally from Poole, Dorset, UK but now in sunny Vera Playa, Almeria in southern Spain, where the temperature is a comfortable 24 degrees. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Leif Christensen
Could I have Leif christensen's contact details too please thanks micki ++ . At the moment I am making a rose motif in Chantilly lace | in a thread which is a pale blue/grey colour and is unboiled 3 ply silk 250 | thickness (very, very fine). I got the thread from Leif Christensen in | Denmark after consulting with you wonderful people - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Arachne dotage?
I guess I fint in too as I have taken part at Arachne 98, which means I was probably on the list for quite a while. I have the second commemorative bobbin, so thisshould give an approximate date. I'm coming out of lurkdom from time top time. I must say I did learn a lot from the list, especially as there are no classes and courses in this country. Miriam Arad, Israel - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace - NZ
My friend from England moved recently to NZ and ives in the AUcland area. She has demonsrated already in a crafts fair or something like that and has been at several lace groups. I could ask her if she is interested. She was lurking on Arachne, but I don't know whether she is still on the list. Miriam Arad, Israel - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
A question recently came to me about Christmas ornaments and their patterns. So.I put the question to all of you. What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? Jana Novak has a new book Christmas Lace 5 which I bought at a lace day yesterday, it has patterns for tree ornaments including lots of snowflakes/stars, angels, birds and a few bell shapes. Many of them are 3D and all are rather attractive without being twee. As normal, text in Danish, German and English. Amanda Nottingham - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lurking - What I have been doing
Hello all, I usually only lurk, I do occationally ask a question or reply, but not often as I feel I am too new at lace to have much to say. I have however been busy learning lace AND creating a Homepage for me to share my experiences and some pictures. Really, what I have is a kind of on-line journal of my lace making, with four pictures of my work. I am not a very good photographer so, the pictures don't do the lace justice. I thought I would share what I have been doing(besides making lace - whenever I can steal some time from chores/work) My site is located at http://www.geocities.com/ronnabruce59/ Ronna in Omaha NE. Lace maker age 1 year! hurrah. __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2005 #333
Checking in fromTX. Christmas is cominggifts to make! Need I say more! BarbE Rockwall AND... Having said THAT, I also wonder, WHERE IS EVERYBODY??? The list has been quiet for an unusually long time! Come back! Say Hello? Just let us know you haven't gone away!! (OK - lurkers - here's your big chance to just say HI!) Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
I'm making my ornament for the Christmas Card Exchange from Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmuch. This book, also by Brigitte Bellon, has a lovely selection of bells, hearts, candles, angels and stars. I borrowed the book from a friend, and although I have finished my design, I do not intend to buy a copy of the book for myself. Why? Two reasons: First, it's in German (no English translation, which is also true of the book Alice mentioned). I don't read German, and although the prickings and very clear photographs make it possible to complete the lace, I always feel that paragraph says *something,* and it would help me to know what that is! Second, there are no working diagrams. You have to constantly study the photo to see what stitch is used where, how many twists, etc. I consider myself a reasonably accomplished lacemaker, but I honestly don't think I could manage some of the more complex designs, due to the lack of working diagrams. You can see the cover of this book on Holly Van Sciver's web site http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/1Books.html. Barbara Joyce, who speaks a little French, but no German :-( Snoqualmie, WA USA A question recently came to me about Christmas ornaments and their patterns. So.I put the question to all of you. What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? For Christmas patterns, I like Brigitte Bellon's Kloppeln zur Weihnachtszeit (Bobbin Lace Christmas Patterns). There are a couple ornaments in Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings by Kortelahti, but this source is not helpful if you don't have miniature paper strings available. Please write about your favorite patterns. Alice in Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Arachne Dowager
Hello all, I think I'm a Dowager as well. I joined in early 1996, March or February, but I'm pretty sure I was here by April. Yes, I was. I remember the first Anniversary bobbin. I know others don't like the term Dowager but I've told my kids that's what I want my grandkids to call me. Dowie for short. Then my kids can call me The Dowager. As in, Who was on the phone? It was The Dowager wondering when we're going to have kids. Heather In foggy Abbotsford, BC Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
Hi all On 10/23/05, Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm making my ornament for the Christmas Card Exchange from Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmuch. This book, also by Brigitte Bellon, has a lovely I promoted this book to the little lace group I belong to, they bought it (both my promotion and the book LOL) and it is in constant circulation. There are some in the group who understand German, but most manage without. If you have some on-line time to waste on a rainy day, you can type in a few lines at Babelfish and ask for the German/English translation. Although the very word you'd like to know probably isn't convertible by the compter program, you can get the sense of meaning. Mostly the brief instructions re-iterate something in her diagrams. Alice wrote: Please write about your favorite patterns My favourite for Christmas are from Kniplebrevet and the ones I design myself. The latter is usually just one design per year that I rework many times over - then it could get released into the lace stream, through the Canadian Lacemaker Gazette or at my webpages. There are two little patterns at my old bobbin-page url: http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~wt912/keychain.htm http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~wt912/christmas_wreath.htm -- bye for now Bev in warm and rainy Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Danish royal shawl pattern
The newest Royal went home in his mothers arms, wrapped in a *hand knitted circular lace shawl* The pattern is by Patons It is the 6th pattern in their booklet #2105 and at just $8.80 Australian for 8 patterns it has to be a bargain! http://www.patons.biz/publication_details.asp?SelID=65ID=931name=21 05 Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia Right now Im having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time.. I think Ive forgotten this before No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] widows? (was dowager)
Hello Spiders I finally looked up the word dowager in my English-Dutch dictionary, it only gave a French word, so I turned to the French-Dutch dictinary. It said something like widow of respectable family or something like that. Well, I do dye my partly grey hair, bought my first 2$ reading glasses, make bobbin lace since the late 70's but I hope not to be widowed before retirement and even that will take decades. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
I don't know whether this website would be better than Babelfish for lace things, but for most other uses it certainly is. www.freetranslation.com Helen At 17:54 23/10/2005, bevw wrote: . If you have some on-line time to waste on a rainy day, you can type in a few lines at Babelfish and ask for the German/English translation. Although the very word you'd like to know probably isn't convertible by the compter program, you can get the sense of meaning... Helen, Somerset, UK Forget the formulae, let's make lace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
I'm fond of Christine Springett's ornament patterns. I like ornaments that stand out and hold up straight, rather than just lace on a hanger, so I like to make the kind that sit in bangle bracelets. I also like a series she did of French fans around square or round metal things--don't know what they were originally for, but they're like giant-size charms, stamped out of gold-color metal. She has a book of just bangle ornaments, and there are patterns in her books, Lace for Children of All Ages and the Christmas book. And she made a series of kits that are nice. After the breakup of their business, I'm not sure who's handling the kits any more. The Fountains? Roseground? someone else? Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Dowager?
Lacemakers, I send this only in the interest of accuracy. We are not all lacing widows. Personally, I have to admit to being married. Please read the definition below. I would find another name or title, unless we are to rewrite the dictionary I think. Dowager does have a lovely ring to it, but knowledgeable people might raise an eyebrow. __ dowager - Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 : Dowager \Dowa*ger\, n. [OF. douagiere, fr. douage dower. See Dower.] 1. (Eng. Law) A widow endowed, or having a jointure; a widow who either enjoys a dower from her deceased husband, or has property of her own brought by her to her husband on marriage, and settled on her after his decease. --Blount. --Burrill.[1913 Webster] 2. A title given in England to a widow, to distinguish her from the wife of her husband's heir bearing the same name; -- chiefly applied to widows of personages of rank.[1913 Webster] With prudes for proctors, dowagers for deans. --Tennyson. [1913 Webster] Queen dowager, the widow of a king.[1913 Webster] dowager - WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) : dowager n : a widow holding property received from her deceased husband dowager - Bouvier's Law Dictionary, Revised 6th Ed (1856) : DOWAGER. A widow endowed; one who has a jointure. 2. In England, this is a title or addition given to the widows of princes, dukes, earls, and other noblemen. dowager - Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 : 57 Moby Thesaurus words for dowager: Eve, Frau, abbess, beldam, chatelaine, crone, dame, daughter of Eve, distaff, domina, donna, femme, first lady, frow, frump, gentlewoman, girl, goodwife, governess, grandam, grande dame, grandmother, granny, great lady, hag, homemaker, housewife, lady, lass, madam, matriarch, matron, milady, mistress, mother superior, old battle-ax, old dame, old girl, old granny, old lady, old trot, old wife, old woman, queen dowager, relict, squaw, trot, vrouw, wahine, war-horse, weaker vessel, widow, widow woman, widower, widowman, witch, woman Having been an arachne no more than two or three years, I bow to the majority. Susie Johnson Morris, IL Where the fall colors are in and the chill is in the air.. Have a Great Day! Susie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 815-942-3722 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] round grids
Hello Spiders I while ago I placed a program on my website that generated polar grids for doilies or round edges with a constant angle. Some MAC-users complained they couldn't run it at all. But why did nobody tell me the print function didn't work? A non-lace maker told me today! It is repaired now, but if nobody teaches software developpers, you will never get what you want. Jo Falkink near Gouda, Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament
I like thesee, too, Robin. Right now I am making one of her trimmed 'bracelets' then I make and adaptation of a little 3-d tatted angel that is in Rebecca Jones' book and hang it in the middle, halo and all. Just a bit different and quite cute. BarbE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Christmas Ornament I'm fond of Christine Springett's ornament patterns. I like ornaments that stand out and hold up straight, rather than just lace on a hanger, so I like to make the kind that sit in bangle bracelets. I also like a series she did of French fans around square or round metal things--don't know what they were originally for, but they're like giant-size charms, stamped out of gold-color metal. She has a book of just bangle ornaments, and there are patterns in her books, Lace for Children of All Ages and the Christmas book. And she made a series of kits that are nice. After the breakup of their business, I'm not sure who's handling the kits any more. The Fountains? Roseground? someone else? Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dowager?
C. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I send this only in the interest of accuracy. We are not all lacing widows. Personally, I have to admit to being married. how about Grande Dame? When I googled it most of the entries had something to do with Champagne - now I could handle that! jenny barron NE Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] round grids
All you Mac users out there. I use Illustrator for my lace pattern drafting. The current version creates tailored polar grids. Anyone who is interested and has illustrator email me and I can give you some pointers. Claire Kent, UK On 23 Oct 2005, at 7:27:pm, Jo Falkink wrote: Hello Spiders I while ago I placed a program on my website that generated polar grids for doilies or round edges with a constant angle. Some MAC- users complained they couldn't run it at all. But why did nobody tell me the print function didn't work? A non-lace maker told me today! It is repaired now, but if nobody teaches software developpers, you will never get what you want. Jo Falkink near Gouda, Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] round grids
Hello Jo After the initial teething problems I got it working, and it printed out with Mac. I've just had another look and it's still working and printing out OK. A very useful program for lace designers Brenda On 23 Oct 2005, at 19:27, Jo Falkink wrote: Hello Spiders I while ago I placed a program on my website that generated polar grids for doilies or round edges with a constant angle. Some MAC-users complained they couldn't run it at all. But why did nobody tell me the print function didn't work? A non-lace maker told me today! It is repaired now, but if nobody teaches software developpers, you will never get what you want. Jo Falkink near Gouda, Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Evening with the Collectors
Yesterday, I was part of a fundraising event for a local non-profit group called Evening with the Collectors. There were 13 different collections that were showcased. Since I have tatting shuttles and bobbin lace pillows, I chose Lacemaking Tools and Techniques for the title of my collection. I didn't have nearly enough room for all the stuff I took, but I did manage to cram nine bobbin lace pillows, 30 tatting shuttles and various pieces of lace and trinkets on my two tables. I also put Noelene's poem in a frame (with her permission) and it really tied everything together. I spent 3 hours talking lace with everyone who came by and had a wonderful time. Most were stunned, some have seen it before, a couple had been to Belgium and knew what bobbin lace was, quite a few reminisced about their mothers or grandmothers who tatted, and I think I got two speaking engagements out of the evening. The most surprising event was that the woman in the booth next to me who collected paper Christmas ornaments saw my green Princess lace pillow during the afternoon set up and said she had one, but that it was red. She brought it with her in the evening and yes, it is a Princess. The red velvet is in lovely condition; I've never seen a red one in the US. I know David Downunder has one of each color. She didn't know what it was for, but she collects needlework items and displays it with those things. So, we each learned something! One acquaintance, after listening to me talk about lace for a while told me that this wasn't my collection, it is my passion. I admitted it! Some of the other collections displayed were mechanical banks, railroad memorabilia, metal toy vehicles, ventriloquist figures, dragonware china, political cartoons, advertising boxes, and acetelyne lighting. I'm forgetting a couple. It was a great evening continuing the public's education regarding lace :) Diane Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galena Illinois USA __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] round grids
hmm, I see from old e-mails you must still be using the pre 28-august version. The version of 28-august didn't print anymore. But the version of today prints again. Hello Jo After the initial teething problems I got it working, and it printed out with Mac. I've just had another look and it's still working and printing out OK. A very useful program for lace designers Brenda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Dowager?
Now I also like the Grande Dame...it fits my age, etc. Grande Dame of Lace! Distinguished don't you thing? Susie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jenny Barron Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 1:54 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Dowager? C. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I send this only in the interest of accuracy. We are not all lacing widows. Personally, I have to admit to being married. how about Grande Dame? When I googled it most of the entries had something to do with Champagne - now I could handle that! jenny barron NE Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Arachne Dowager vs. Youthful Lace Enthusiast
Dear Lacemakers, My American dictionary gives two definitions for dowager. The first, you know - A widow holding property or a title from her deceased husband. The second - A dignified elderly woman. I, for one, will never admit to being a dowager of any kind. I intend to be a Youthful Lace Enthusiast for another 30+ years, and hope those who believe they qualify as having the vitality or freshness of youth will join me in thinking likewise. Instead of being fixated on advanced age or time on Arachne, I would like to concentrate on reaching out to younger lace enthusiasts. And, I would like to hear more from them on Arachne. This needs to be our focus to ensure the future of lace knowledge and skills. Having stuck my neck out on this subject does not mean no more memos from this little corner of Maine. You will still hear about new research, new books, etc. that come my way. Soon. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tripp to england (not much of lace.)
Dear Spiders. I want to thank you for all the purposes I received for my small tipp to England, with a little report. I arrived tuesday afternoon at London-Waterloo where I met my daughter. After cheking-inn a hotel, we went to the Albert and Victoria Museum. As it was late we decided to first visit the costume departement where the theme was costumes of princess Mathilda, a few gowns had a little lace, one a nice honiton all the rest I was not sure of the origins. Unfortunatly there was no more time for the lace departement so it will remain on my list of to do. Wednesday the morning was reserved for St. James Palace, where my daughter received her Duke of Edinburgh Avard, lunch at the National Gallery with a short visit and off to Christchurch where my daughter lives. Thursday as I could not see lace in London, we went to Honiton and visited the Museeum, wich is worth the 2 hours drive. The lace exposed is not very large, but the quality really fine. I have never seen a large quantity of honiton-lace, but a few of the pieces are amazing and I suppose I will try out Honiton, when I will have time, as I enjoy to work Duchesse this will not be too hard, exept the fillings, wich are different to the Duchesse. On the evening a nice dinner withe the landlords of my daughter, and friday a little sightseeing, and travel home. This weekend my 2nd daughter removed from Paris to Strasbourg, so live was busy. Alix from Luxembourg. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Arachne Dowager vs. Youthful Lace Enthusiast
Hi Jeri and all, I would like to second what Jeri says about reaching out to young lacemakers and getting them involved on the list. They will be the means of continuing the skills and traditions of our beloved craft and need to be nurtured and encouraged. At the same time I think it is good to acknowledge that many of us have been here for the 'long haul' and that says a lot for this lace list. I too have been here since before the first arachne anniversary bobbin and credit most of my lace knowledge to this list. I don't post often, and I am always hundreds of emails behind with my reading, BUT I never think about unsubscribing even when I go on holidays. I wouldn't want to miss anything. I carefully save relevant information to my extensive list of subject folders. I keep this backed up as I could not bear to think about loosing this resource, collected over so many years. Needless to say, it is getting quite large and needs to be condensed but who has time? One day? Thanks everyone for making arachne such a great resource and for the wonderful friendships. Annette Meldrum Wollongong, South Coast of NSW, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 6:55 AM Instead of being fixated on advanced age or time on Arachne, I would like to concentrate on reaching out to younger lace enthusiasts. And, I would like to hear more from them on Arachne. This needs to be our focus to ensure the future of lace knowledge and skills. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] s'Gravenmoer
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:02:30 -0700, Bev wrote: I looked up the pattern, haven't made this one, but I note that the thinner thread is metallic vs. the thicker plain thread. I think the contrast will be just as effective with a lighter colour; either use a textural difference in the two, as well as size, or go for a metallic and a solid. Certainly worth trying - display it against a dark background. The example in the book is black against white background, and now that I think of it, it is difficult to see detail on black textiles, compared to the lighter ones. IOW I think you're on the right track. Thanks for the reassurance. I am going to ransack my stash for a metallic and a plain cotton in similar colours. If the colours were too different then the creativity of the pattern creating light and shade through the thread weights would be lost. -- On the other hand, you have different fingers. Stephen Wright Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] s'Gravenmoer
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:26:31 +0200, you wrote: Hello Steph, hello dear Arachneans, which course in Germany will you take? I am just curious. I won't do any more courses this year. A week with Inge Theuerkauf at Bad Laer in the Teutoberger Wald - north west Germany, not far from the Netherlands border. A week of lace from breakfast till midnight, and for me also my annual immersion course in German. Funny how many swear words can be learnt in a lace class ;-) -- Error:015: Unable to exit Windows. Try the door. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread help: daliam cotton thread, lace in literature
Well, I joined the list within the first month or two of its formation so I could probably be considered a dowager, not that I've ever thought of using that term. Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. I have only the second edition of Brenda's thread book, and I don't see it there. I'd appreciate it if someone could check to see if it's in the 3rd edition (I need to get a copy) or possibly someone knows of this thread or has used it. Lace in Literature from The Towers of Trebizond by Rose Macaulay, an out-of-print novel (likely in your library), zany and fun. ...I was glad to drive to Bethlehem in the afternoon with my mother, who knew nothing except about the shops where they made jewellery and mother-of-pearl crosses and olive wood Bibles and velvet jackets embroidered with gold. Whenever my mother was in Bethlehem she got some of these jackets or tunics, and gave them to her friends and relations. She had a notion that all the New Testament women had shopped there, and that on the Sabbath they had all put on these velvet coats, and walked out in them, and she pictured all the Marys... and all the other women, walking out in these black velvet coats embroidered with gold thread, and ovef they heads they wore shawls of handmade lace. Probably knit or crochet lace...how we all wish that writers would give us more of the important details. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's cold and frosty today...and I can finally spend time getting organised for some fall projects...e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: thread help: daliam cotton thread
On Oct 23, 2005, at 18:05, Julie Ourom wrote: Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. I have only the second edition of Brenda's thread book, and I don't see it there. I'd appreciate it if someone could check to see if it's in the 3rd edition (I need to get a copy) or possibly someone knows of this thread or has used it. I've never heard of the thread myself. Just checked ed 3, and it's not there, unless it's a case similiar to Finca (everyone refers to it as Finca, but it's full name is Presencia Finca Bolilos, so it's under P's, not under F's)... So I decided to have a go at it from another angle :) The pricking uses - mainly - cloth and and half stitch, which are two of the 3 stitches used also in Cathy Belleville's Chrysanthemum Lace book. Judging by how open/dense the two tapes are in the photo, they're about similiar in that respect also. The main difference is that Chrysanthemum uses linen thread, and the pumpkin project uses cotton, and the two behave differently (especially depending on whether there're 2 or more plies in the thread) So, OK... I measured the pin distance on the pumpkin pricking and it's about 4mm between pins. That's the distance Cathy recommends for Moravia linen 40/2 which is shown in Brenda's book as having 22 wraps per cm. I don't know what crochet threads you have in your stash, but 22 wraps corresponds to various cordonnets 40 in cotton. However. Judging by the width of the tapes and the number of bobbins used (in both Chrysanth and the pumpkin), I'd probably err on the side of a slightly thicker thread - say 21 or 20 wraps - especially if your thread has more than 2 plies (which it's likely to, if made for crochet); 2 plied thread tends to have better coverage (spreads out more) than a 3 or 6 ply thread with its tighter twist. Additionally, cotton thread is usually much more uniform in thicknes than linen with its thin/thick sequences. Hope this is off help... at least until someone from Spain tells us what Daliam is :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Christmas Ornament
On Oct 23, 2005, at 2:41, Alice Howell wrote: A question recently came to me about Christmas ornaments and their patterns. So.I put the question to all of you. What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? For Christmas patterns, I like Brigitte Bellon's Kloppeln zur Weihnachtszeit (Bobbin Lace Christmas Patterns). Until I started designing my own ornaments, the favourite source was another Bellon book (that makes it a 3rd, with the one Barbara is using g): Weihnachtliche Kloppelmotive (Christmassy Bobbin Lace Motifs - as far as I can decipher the title), published by Barbara Fay in '93. Lots of angels and stars, but also several candles, some bells and some odd ones, like a tree and a mushroom (Poland obviously shares the mushroom on the Christmas tree tradition with Germany; I have several - glass ones). All fairly simple, using few pairs, but very effective. Like in the other two books mentioned, all the text is in German - no English - and my German was never great, and has rusted out altogether through 35 yrs of disuse. But, for most of the patterns, the knowledge of the language is not essential; the photographs are _superbly_ clear and the prickings are marked not only with the paths of the workers but the direction of movement, where to add and remove pairs, etc. Not for a total novice to lacemaking but, mostly, because she's not likely to have been exposed to the many differing notations. In some ways, I found Burkhard's patterns harder to guess at, despite the English... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Dowager
I think I joined about 1998 Shirley in Corio Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Dowager
Please read the definition below. I would find another name or title, unless we are to rewrite the dictionary I think. Maybe Veterans Shirley in Corio Oz. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Dowager
Grande Dame of Lace! Distinguished don't you thing? Susie How about that David??? Shirley in Corio Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Dowager?
On Oct 23, 2005, at 14:04, C. Johnson (Susie) wrote: I send this only in the interest of accuracy. We are not all lacing widows. Personally, I have to admit to being married. I am too, and hope to remain so for many more years. But... Jenny Barron wrote: how about Grande Dame? When I googled it most of the entries had something to do with Champagne - now I could handle that! While I have nothing against Champagne, there's nothing grande about me - in any sense of the word, and I've never heard of petite dame :) And Jeri Ames wrote: My American dictionary gives two definitions for dowager. The first, you know - A widow holding property or a title from her deceased husband. The second - A dignified elderly woman. While I admit to being elderly (get a senior citizen discount at Kroger, don't I?), I disclaim the dignified bit; who? me? dignified??? Give me a break... g OTOH... there's black widow, which is a spider... A spider is also known as an arachnid. Which name is derived directly from Arachne - the mortal who challenged the goddess Athena to a weaving competition and who's the patroness of both weavers and lacemakers (hence the name of our list). And I've been a member of our Arachne-list for quite a while; the long-standing commitment may even have given me some dignity :) Obnoxiously yours (if we're to count in lacemaking years, I'm 16.5. Almost adult when I was growing up, but a mere - and annoying - child nowadays) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re Dowager
Hey David.how 'bout Sir Ruffle? That is pretty elegant so it suits you! BarbE USA - Original Message - From: Shirley To: lace Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: [lace] Re Dowager Grande Dame of Lace! Distinguished don't you thing? Susie How about that David??? Shirley in Corio Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Arachne Whatever, away
On Oct 23, 2005, at 17:37, Annette Meldrum wrote: I don't post often, and I am always hundreds of emails behind with my reading, BUT I never think about unsubscribing even when I go on holidays. I wouldn't want to miss anything. I'm as Arachne-possessed as Anette; can't face the idea of missing anything. But I do unsubscribe for every absence of a week or more; the holding pen at my ISP would burst otherwise, since it has a limit on the amount of data I can receive, and I'm never sure what access to a puter I might have while away (no laptop; a cell-phone is enough of a tech-curse for me g) It's been a while since what I think of as the holidays option has been mentioned on the list, so I'm bringing it back; it might be useful for others whose boxes migh likewise be limited. What I do for long-term vacations is unsubscribe from both lace and lace chat (or, to be precise, ask Avital to unsubscribe me, since I'm a total compu-idiot g) I take my ISP's URL with me, so so that, if I happen to get acess to someone's puter on my travels, I can read and respond to the _private_ mail (and trash what hadn't been caught by the spam filter), thus making room in the box for more mail to come in. Then, when I come back to my own - more relaxed - environment, I hit the archives for the missed backlog: http://www.mail-archive.com/lace%40arachne.com/ and http://www.mail-archive.com/lace-chat%40arachne.com/ One can read everything posted on either lace or lace-chat on those, within a few hours of posting (most of the time). What one doesn't get is the e-addresses - not of the person posting, not of the moderator, etc. But, since I'm reading a long time behind, I don't want to answer a message reviving a long-dead thread anyway, so it doesn't matter. And, in the unlikely circumstance that I _would_ want to, the Arachne and Arachne chat addresses are the two of three (the third being my own) that I do remember and can type in... :) Avital has set up the archives for our convinience - use them. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Online Translators
I did actually run some of the German text through an online translator before I made my design. The problem is, although the translators can process the more common words, they're completely lost with anything that's a lace-related term. I still don't know what the title means, so I decided to have a little fun. I used three online translating sites and tried each one with Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmuck. Here's what I got: Freetranslation.com: gekloppelter christmas jewelry Babelfish/Alta Vista: more gekloppelter weihnachtsschmuck translation2.paralink.com: gekloppelter one Christmas-smart I rest my case. ;-) Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas Ornament
Hi Tamara and other lacers, I have two of Bridgetts books. Both have angels in them. I love her angels and stars she has in the books that I do have by her. I bought them last year with the intent of making the nativity patterns up which I also like alot. I have done a couple of the angels that are in one of her books. At the moment I just started laying bobbins on my pillow to do the one ( 3 kings for X-mas time) pattern that was in the Lace magazine. I also want to do the the other pattern that is on the opposite page of the same issue. Both patterns are Schneeberger lace. I have monkeyed with Schneeberger lace before. I did one of Lia Baumeister's angels in the past. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 23, 2005, at 2:41, Alice Howell wrote: A question recently came to me about Christmas ornaments and their patterns. So.I put the question to all of you. What is the source of your favorite Christmas ornaments? For Christmas patterns, I like Brigitte Bellon's Kloppeln zur Weihnachtszeit (Bobbin Lace Christmas Patterns). Until I started designing my own ornaments, the favourite source was another Bellon book (that makes it a 3rd, with the one Barbara is using ): Weihnachtliche Kloppelmotive (Christmassy Bobbin Lace Motifs - as far as I can decipher the title), published by Barbara Fay in '93. Lots of angels and stars, but also several candles, some bells and some odd ones, like a tree and a mushroom (Poland obviously shares the mushroom on the Christmas tree tradition with Germany; I have several - glass ones). All fairly simple, using few pairs, but very effective. Like in the other two books mentioned, all the text is in German - no English - and my German was never great, and has rusted out altogether through 35 yrs of disuse. But, for most of the patterns, the knowledge of the language is not essential; the photographs are _superbly_ clear and the prickings are marked not only with the paths of the workers but the direction of movement, where to add and remove pairs, etc. Not for a total novice to lacemaking but, mostly, because she's not likely to have been exposed to the many differing notations. In some ways, I found Burkhard's patterns harder to guess at, despite the English... -- Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Online Translators (of lace stuff)
On Oct 23, 2005, at 21:36, Barbara Joyce wrote: I did actually run some of the German text through an online translator before I made my design. The problem is, although the translators can process the more common words, they're completely lost with anything that's a lace-related term. That seems to be true even if you get a hold of a native speaker who's not a lacemaker; I once asked a local Dutcch-ess to translate some text from a lacemaking book and her translation was worse than mine, and _much_ worse than what Arachne supplied :) I still don't know what the title means, so I decided to have a little fun. I used three online translating sites and tried each one with Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmuck. Here's what I got: Freetranslation.com: gekloppelter christmas jewelry Babelfish/Alta Vista: more gekloppelter weihnachtsschmuck translation2.paralink.com: gekloppelter one Christmas-smart I rest my case. ;-) You also rest Helen's case :) Helen (in UK) wrote: I don't know whether this website would be better than Babelfish for lace things, but for most other uses it certainly is. www.freetranslation.com The freetranslation site came the closest to the real meaning, so I'd depend on it more than on the other two in the future. What it left undone is gekloppelter. Granted, I still remember that, in German, ge- denotes past participle (and, by extension, indicates a verb), so I'd have known to discard that as an excess baggage, leaving me with kloppelter to look up in a dictionary (BTW... The o is an o umlaut, ie it has two dots over it. Since most keyboards outside Germany do not offer that option, the new canon renders it as oe, not as a simple o). The dictionary in question - highly recommended - is International Lace Dictionary. Written by three people - Edith Spee, Ineke van den Kiebom and Johan Coene - it's also sometimes referred to as Coene's dictionary (trust a man to hog the limelight and the credit g) It has lots of lace - and strictly lace - terms in 16 languages. In the Deutsch (which means German, in German) section, there are 9 words which begin with kloeppel. None of them is kloeppelter, but the first - plain vanilla kloeppel - is enough to establish that kloeppel is bobbin. Following up on other kloeppel-beginning words makes it certain that the word refers to bobbin-made lace. So, you come up with Christmas Jewelry (made) in Bobbin Lace, which may not be precise, but it good enough :) I realize that US is not especially demanding on the matter of learning foreign langauages (one of the reasons I feel comfortable here with just the two - English and Polish - I know fairly well), but all lacemakers are used to scrambling for solutions; we need this ability to interpret the not-so-well-documented prickings, and to re-interpret old laces. It's also what gets us the - well deserved - Mensa of the crafts title. So, to cross the river, use what _is_ known as your stepping stones, and trust your instinct when jumping over the small gap of the unknown... Of course... A _much_ simpler solution is to just ask on Arachne g -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas Ornament
So, OK... I measured the pin distance on the pumpkin pricking and it's about 4mm between pins. That's the distance Cathy recommends for Moravia linen 40/2 which is shown in Brenda's book as having 22 wraps per cm. I don't know what crochet threads you have in your stash, but 22 wraps corresponds to various cordonnets 40 in cotton. Ah, yes, that reminds me of the olden days when we had to calculate our own thread sizes, before Brenda and Martina came out with their wonderful books. I seem to remember that you want 10 wraps of thread to fit between edge pins on the pricking. Brenda's 22 wraps per cm would be 2.2 wraps per mm, or 8.8 wraps in 4 mm between pins. That's not so far off from 10/pinhole. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Online Translators
Let me help you with that case ;) I used three online translating sites and tried each one with Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmuck. If you really have time to waste, you can type in portions of the word in the translator - sometimes a wording then makes sense - if the word has 'kloppel' in it, its bobbin-related, and Weihnacht is Christmas, 'schmuck' is decoration. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace dowager
Hello Spiders I finally looked up the word dowager in my English-Dutch dictionary, it only gave a French word, so I turned to the French-Dutch dictinary. It said something like widow of respectable family or something like that. . Jo Falkink Jo, This may not be of great interest to others on the list but the word for Dowager in the Language of the Netherlands is , Douairière and widow of respectable family appears to be a respectable simple short interpretation / explanation. Hendrika Memb of Simcoe County lacemakers Simcoe County ( Township of Springwater ) Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Broadband
s there anyone out there using freeserve/wanadoo wireless broadband. We've just gone on to broadband - wireless so we can have two computers connected. Supposed to be easy to do. So far it's been two days and four technical support phone calls. The broadband's running on one computer, but the extra phone line through the wireless box isn't - they're ringing back on Monday or Tuesday to see if they can sort that out. They reckoned we needed wireless because we wanted to have two computers able to go on line, and, knowing nothing about it, we agreed. Had a lot of trouble getting it set up in the first place because the instruction booklet only gives isolated diagrams of individual connectuons and no overall plan diagram of what goes where. Wanadoo's answer to out set up difficulties in one of the four phone calls was that I'd have to get rid of my cordless phone which might interfere with the wireless signal, have the phone socket moved to the room with the computer in, next to the computer and keep our main phone next to the computer as well. Not so according to the next phone call - I can keep my cordless phone, don't have to have the phone socket moved, and the computer can stay where it is. First computer's working fine, but instructions are given to connect the second computer via an ethernet cable - not long enouigh to reach from the computer in the bedroom to the broadband box in the hall connected to the phone socket. As the second compuer's a laptop which is wirelss enabled, it should be abled to be connected wirelessly as well. Has anyone done this? When the wireless but of the second computer pairs with the wireless box, will it destroy the pairing of the first computer with it? Technology's wonderful if you're up to date with it or are 12 years old. My computer expertise stopped in 1997 when I stopped teaching IT. So advice would be appreciated (privately to save boring everyone else) from anyone with knowledge of this. Thanks Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Re: Trafalgar 2
Tamara wrote: Heard in a store today that the newly-issued nickel (5 cent piece) is to be recalled - the bison on it looks too male. Well, a male bison is a bit more imposing than a female bison...it's not there to look cute, I'm sure. (But I wouldn't want to meet up with either bison and be at it's mercy...) Margaret Holsinger On The Wing Mailing Services Presorting List Hygiene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Arachne dowagers
I'm sure I joined within the first year - certainlt before the first commemorative bobbins were announced - so that makes me a dowager too. At least I have the white haire to match :-) As for David..he could be an (old) geezer. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Dowagers
Dear Friends, Having been sent the following definition of a Dowager:- Dowager \Dowa*ger\, n. [OF. douagiere, fr. douage dower. See Dower.] 1. (Eng. Law) A widow endowed, or having a jointure; a widow who either enjoys a dower from her deceased husband, or has property of her own brought by her to her husband on marriage, and settled on her after his decease. --Blount. - I realize I can't possible be a widow. Guess I'll just have to settle for the endowed bit :) So - the male lace makers who've been here since 1995, will henceforth just have to be referred to as Endowed Arachnes as distinct from our Dowagers. David in Ballarat -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bison: was Re: Trafalgar 2
At 06:16 AM 10/23/05 -0400, BrambleLane wrote: Well, a male bison is a bit more imposing than a female bison...it's not there to look cute, I'm sure. (But I wouldn't want to meet up with either bison and be at it's mercy...) I'd a heap ruther meet up with a male bison than a mother bison. But I'd *definitely* stay on my own side of the fence! -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Dowagers
All the chat on Lace about dowagers reminds me of a line - Dame Joan Sutherland was singing in Chicago, and one of the audience commented Fancy calling a nice broad like that a dame ...Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
