Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Syble Glasscock
Thanks, I'd looked there, but had just overlooked Death Date,  I use that 
Detailed Search quite often, but never for a death date.
 
I don't have it set to automatically update every time, I just hate going back 
and having so many backups to delete, may have to do that anyway.  I am good 
about backing up when I've entered quite a bit, I just failed to that time.
 
To others that replied, I have my file set to open up the perviously used file, 
and it didn't delete the individual, it just didn't save the Events I'd put in 
the last time I used it.
 
Thanks,
Syble

Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat

From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

On 9/21/2011 8:15 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

Is there a way to search for instances a date. I added his year of death
as 1839. I thought maybe it sent the information to someone else.

You can go to the SEARCH icon up at the top of your icon menubar (or
click on the word Search in the menu above that), then do the following:

Look for:  INDIVIDUAL
Where to Look: BIRTH DATE
How to Look: Contains
What to Look: 1839

Then click on create list and you will have a list of every person in
your database which contains 1839 in their date of birth.

By the way, is Legacy prompting you to backup your database each and
every time you exit Legacy?  That's probably a very good idea if you
have that configured, or maybe it's automatic - I know it always comes
up that way for me.  Good luck!

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 Families Researching: /Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon,
 Perryman, Gilbreath, Lindsey, Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock,
 Edwards, Waters, Wheat/

    *From:* Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
    *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:06 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

    Syble,
    Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair and compact Family File?
    Ron Ferguson
    http://www.fergys.co.uk/
    *From:* Syble Glasscock mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:00 AM
    *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
    mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
    *Subject:* [LegacyUG] loss of data
    I am using Legacy Deluxe, build date: 2 Aug 2011 I added a lot of
    information this morning to a particular individual, I usually
    backup, but was in a hurry to leave, I exited Legacy as I usually
    do: FileExit. When I just now opened Legacy and this particular
    person I'd added much information to, now he has NO events, probably
    added at least 6 this morning, I'd also added year of death and it
    too is gone, all I have is his name.
    Has anyone had any problems like this? I now have a will for this
    person, documenting his children and a 2nd spouse, I'd added the
    additional children and spouse and I have all of that, I'd sourced
    each of these additional names and that source is there.
    Thanks,
    Syble
    Families Researching: /Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon,
    Perryman, Gilbreath, Lindsey, Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming,
    Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, Wheat/
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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I have had 
events dissapear when using that link.

Alan Pereira



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 22 September 2011 13:25
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data



Thanks, I'd looked there, but had just overlooked Death Date,  I use that 
Detailed Search quite often, but never for a death date.



I don't have it set to automatically update every time, I just hate going back 
and having so many backups to delete, may have to do that anyway.  I am good 
about backing up when I've entered quite a bit, I just failed to that time.



To others that replied, I have my file set to open up the perviously used file, 
and it didn't delete the individual, it just didn't save the Events I'd put in 
the last time I used it.



Thanks,

Syble



Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat

From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

On 9/21/2011 8:15 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

Is there a way to search for instances a date. I added his year of death
as 1839. I thought maybe it sent the information to someone else.

You can go to the SEARCH icon up at the top of your icon menubar (or
click on the word Search in the menu above that), then do the following:

Look for:  INDIVIDUAL
Where to Look: BIRTH DATE
How to Look: Contains
What to Look: 1839

Then click on create list and you will have a list of every person in
your database which contains 1839 in their date of birth.

By the way, is Legacy prompting you to backup your database each and
every time you exit Legacy?  That's probably a very good idea if you
have that configured, or maybe it's automatic - I know it always comes
up that way for me.  Good luck!

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 Families Researching: /Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon,
 Perryman, Gilbreath, Lindsey, Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock,
 Edwards, Waters, Wheat/

*From:* Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

Syble,
Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair and compact Family File?
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
*From:* Syble Glasscock mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:00 AM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] loss of data
I am using Legacy Deluxe, build date: 2 Aug 2011 I added a lot of
information this morning to a particular individual, I usually
backup, but was in a hurry to leave, I exited Legacy as I usually
do: FileExit. When I just now opened Legacy and this particular
person I'd added much information to, now he has NO events, probably
added at least 6 this morning, I'd also added year of death and it
too is gone, all I have is his name.
Has anyone had any problems like this? I now have a will for this
person, documenting his children and a 2nd spouse, I'd added the
additional children and spouse and I have all of that, I'd sourced
each of these additional names and that source is there.
Thanks,
Syble
Families Researching: /Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon,
Perryman, Gilbreath, Lindsey, Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming,
Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, Wheat/
No virus found in this message.
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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I
have had events dissapear when using that link.

Alan Pereira

I have noticed that when the nFS interface is in use that most edits on
my database do not stick. I asked Support (twice) under what conditions
that would happen, but have not had an answer. It has been so long that
I deleted their automated response with the case number. I still want to
find out.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread cranberryfrog
MessageAlan,
Does that mean you can’t share your file with ANYONE?  That goes completely 
against how genealogy works! We would be nowhere if we couldn’t share info!

michele

From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are 
working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface 
that life events disappear as well as giving messages about finding Nulls.

All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their request 
for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break European and UK 
Data Protection Law.

Alan (based in UK)


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Syble, I have it set to prompt me for backup, and sometimes I skip it... if I
haven't changed anything or changed very little.  It's a good reminder
tho especially if you have done a good chunk of work in that sitting.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 7:24:51 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data


Thanks, I'd looked there, but had just overlooked Death Date,  I use that
Detailed Search quite often, but never for a death date.
 
I don't have it set to automatically update every time, I just hate going back
and having so many backups to delete, may have to do that anyway.  I am good
about backing up when I've entered quite a bit, I just failed to that time.
 
To others that replied, I have my file set to open up the perviously used file,
and it didn't delete the individual, it just didn't save the Events I'd put in
the last time I used it.
 
Thanks,
Syble

Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman,
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters,
Wheat


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
It's critical that we get the full original file in order to determine
what's going on with the message, preferably before running
check/repair to see where the nulls are before that process is run.

A gedcom or part of the file will not be helpful at all.

Ken *can* fix the file if we have it... but there's nothing we can do
without access to the file.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Alan,
 Can you try exporting everyone that you publish on Rootsweb to a GEDCOM,
 then load that GEDCOM into a new database and send THAT database to
 support...?  Maybe produce the loss of data issue on this new db before
 sending.  Having worked in support, it's hard to get excited about a bug
 someone reports that you cannot re-produce and the reporting person can not
 provide proof either.   Sounds like a serious enough bug to warrant the
 extra effort.  I'm now putting trying out that interface on the back burner
 until I see resolution.  Thx.

 --Paula in Texas
snip

 From: Alan Pereira
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

 Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are
 working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface
 that life events disappear as well as giving messages about finding Nulls.

 All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their
 request for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break
 European and UK Data Protection Law.

 Alan (based in UK)


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
As I wrote before, we need the full original file

A gedcom changes things around too much when reimported into the
Family File and would not be at all helpful for this issue.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Paula, that's a good suggestion!  I will try this if Brian in Support thinks
 it's worth the trip.  It's been some time and they may already have a handle
 on the cause / effect.

 Copied Brian on this to see if he wants me to do this.

 Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread cranberryfrog
MessageI am just saying, maybe there is an exception to the rule.

michele


From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

Michele, would you knowingly break a law that, in part, has been put in place 
to protect people from Identify Fraud?

Especially when those people are your relatives!

Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/09/22 15:34, Alan Pereira wrote:

 All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their 
 request
 for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break European and UK
 Data Protection Law.

That's a very selfish attitude to take. You've got the problem, help Support to
get to the bottom of it and fix it.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Syble Glasscock
Carl,
No I've not used the Family Search interface from Legacy, but I do use the 
familysearch.org website with  a Legacy file open, and very likely I did on 
this research occasion, I was hoping someone had a tree posted on my particular 
person.    This is strange and a real concern, especially wondering what other 
information I may have lost.
thanks,
Syble

Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat

From: Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data


Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are 
working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface 
that life events disappear as well as giving messages about finding Nulls.
All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their 
request for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break 
European and UK Data Protection Law.
Alan (based in UK)
 
From:Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: 22 September 2011 14:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data
 
Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I have 
had events dissapear when using that link.
Alan Pereira
I have noticed that when the nFS interface is in use that most edits on my 
database do not stick. I asked Support (twice) under what conditions that 
would happen, but have not had an answer. It has been so long that I deleted 
their automated response with the case number. I still want to find out.
Carl


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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
Syble,

I'm confident that accessing the familysearch web site outside of the nFS 
Interface is OK.  I've been monitoring heavy data entry on my tree using that 
process for the last 3 weeks without losing any data.

Alan



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data



Carl,

No I've not used the Family Search interface from Legacy, but I do use the 
familysearch.org website with  a Legacy file open, and very likely I did on 
this research occasion, I was hoping someone had a tree posted on my particular 
person.This is strange and a real concern, especially wondering what other 
information I may have lost.

thanks,

Syble



Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat

From: Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are 
working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface 
that life events disappear as well as giving messages about finding Nulls.

All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their request 
for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break European and UK 
Data Protection Law.

Alan (based in UK)



From: Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: 22 September 2011 14:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data



Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I have 
had events dissapear when using that link.

Alan Pereira

I have noticed that when the nFS interface is in use that most edits on my 
database do not stick. I asked Support (twice) under what conditions that would 
happen, but have not had an answer. It has been so long that I deleted their 
automated response with the case number. I still want to find out.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread James Cook
Alan said he does not want to share private information due to legal
and personal reasons, but would be willing to create a stripped down
database that can recreate the problem that only contains information
he'd be willing to share.  Legacy has stated twice in this thread that
would not be good enough.  Legacy's stance that they won't work on an
issue unless you hand over your private data is ridiculous.

jc



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 Alan,



 I am not sure what you want to happen. You are suggesting ( I think) that
 there is a database problem, and Legacy needs the database to diagnose it.
 If you can’t, or won’t, provide the database (for any reason) I can’t see
 what more can be done.

 Paul


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[LegacyUG] Events vs Notes

2011-09-22 Thread Dennis Sutton
I just started attempting to add .jpg attachments to various events.
While doing this I noted something strange, not related to the .jpg
attachment which appears on my on-line web site.

I have a census entry for my dad and mom.  However, on my dad's website
view the census is noted as an event while on my mom's view it is
noted as notes

Can anyone explain how this happens?  As I said, this was found as part
of my effort to add .jpg attachments to an event.  In the test file I
created I entered a census event for both and when I created the web
site from Legacy both have the census event appear as notes vice event.

Dennis


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems behaviour

2011-09-22 Thread Brian/Support
Jenny,

I found this thread in the archives and I notice there was no response
that covered the points below.


1. There is an edit parents button on the potential problems screen,
that opens the parents marriage information in case you need to edit the
marriage info and that marriage screen has buttons to edit the husband
or wife if you need to edit the personal information on one of the parents.

Using those buttons/screens you do not need to exit the potential
problems list to fix problems with the parent's information.

2. The potential problem check is a check from the person to the dates
for their parents, that is why the report lists each child and not about
the parent. Checking from a child to data on a parent is easier because
of the structure of the database.

If you think that a reverse check from the parent to the children which
would report a problem with the parents dates related to dates for their
children we are happy to consider suggestions for improvement.

In Legacy 6.0 and 7.0 you can suggest a new feature by clicking on the
link on the Legacy Home Tab Support Section
Other users can make a suggestion here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp
Use the drop down list in the first box to select a category, Legacy 7
or Legacy Charting.

Before submitting a suggestion consider the existing checks made about
parent dates from the viewpoint of the child and make specific
suggestions on what to check on children's dates from the viewpoint of
the parent.

Brian
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On 11/08/2011 7:15 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 I have just run a Potential Problems report and found several people
 listed as having errors in some of their dates, such as a misspelling of
 abt and lack of space between the month and the year, etc.  All these
 were quickly corrected by clicking on the Edit Individual button, or in
 a couple of cases clicking on the Edit Marriage button.

 However there was one entry which said that an Individual's Father's
 death date was wrong and a group of entries for a set of siblings where
 it said that their Mother's death date was wrong.  I am curious why
 these entries were in the names of the children, not the Individuals
 concerned.  It meant that instead of being able to use the Edit button,
 I had to lose the list, go to one of the named people and then select
 their parent in order to make the correction.


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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox


It's critical that we get the full original file in order to determine
what's going on with the message, preferably before running check/repair
to see where the nulls are before that process is run.

A gedcom or part of the file will not be helpful at all.

Ken *can* fix the file if we have it... but there's nothing we can do
without access to the file.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

Sherry, I don't know if my problem is the same as reported by Alan, but
it seems others are experience the same part of the problem I have. It
would be nice to hear from support on the problem of Data not sticking.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Even if he can reproduce the problem with his pared down database?
 --Paula in Texas




- Original Message 
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 9:38:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

As I wrote before, we need the full original file

A gedcom changes things around too much when reimported into the
Family File and would not be at all helpful for this issue.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Paula, that's a good suggestion!  I will try this if Brian in Support thinks
 it's worth the trip.  It's been some time and they may already have a handle
 on the cause / effect.

 Copied Brian on this to see if he wants me to do this.

 Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Larry McCumber
See if he can reproduce the problem on the sample data base.  I'm sure they
have a copy of that one.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Even if he can reproduce the problem with his pared down database?
  --Paula in Texas




 - Original Message 
 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Cc: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 9:38:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

 As I wrote before, we need the full original file

 A gedcom changes things around too much when reimported into the
 Family File and would not be at all helpful for this issue.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
  Paula, that's a good suggestion!  I will try this if Brian in Support
 thinks
  it's worth the trip.  It's been some time and they may already have a
 handle
  on the cause / effect.
 
  Copied Brian on this to see if he wants me to do this.
 
  Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314
and null values...


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Carl Cox ct...@centurytel.net wrote:

snip

 Sherry, I don't know if my problem is the same as reported by Alan, but
 it seems others are experience the same part of the problem I have. It
 would be nice to hear from support on the problem of Data not sticking.

 Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
It's a database issue and most likely will not happen on the Sample file.

If it happens with a pared down version of his file, we can fix that,
but that would not guarantee that there still wouldn't be a problem
with the part he didn't send us


Sincerely,
Sherry
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Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Larry McCumber lemccum...@gmail.com wrote:
 See if he can reproduce the problem on the sample data base.  I'm sure they
 have a copy of that one.

 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:

 Even if he can reproduce the problem with his pared down database?
  --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
Fix his database. I'm talking about a null error and it's my
understanding that was resolved.

I worked on one a couple weeks ago and was not able to find where the
null was, but the programmers have a tool that can locate and fix it
quickly.


But if the issue with nulls and nFS wasn't resolved, then having the
database will help the programmers out


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:22:36 -0700, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

If it happens with a pared down version of his file, we can fix that

 Do you mean fix the bug in the software? Or just fix his database?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Events vs Notes

2011-09-22 Thread Brian/Support
Dennis,

I was not able to duplicate your problem. In the web pages I tried to
create the events for both the husband, wife and marriage were listed as
events.

What style of web pages are you creating?
On the Wording Tab of the create web page screen what do you have for
the wording of Events for the individuals and for marriages?

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On 22/09/2011 2:35 PM, Dennis Sutton wrote:
 I just started attempting to add .jpg attachments to various events.
 While doing this I noted something strange, not related to the .jpg
 attachment which appears on my on-line web site.

 I have a census entry for my dad and mom.  However, on my dad's website
 view the census is noted as an event while on my mom's view it is
 noted as notes

 Can anyone explain how this happens?  As I said, this was found as part
 of my effort to add .jpg attachments to an event.  In the test file I
 created I entered a census event for both and when I created the web
 site from Legacy both have the census event appear as notes vice event.

 Dennis


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Re: [LegacyUG] Events vs Notes

2011-09-22 Thread Dennis Sutton
Brian,

 The individual and marriage events wording on the site I created is:

Individual Events:  Noted events in [his/her] life are:

Marriage Events: noted events in their marriage are:

  Both are grayed out.

 You can see my site at http://njsuttonfamily.org

Dennis

On 9/22/2011 6:30 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
 Dennis,

 I was not able to duplicate your problem. In the web pages I tried to
 create the events for both the husband, wife and marriage were listed as
 events.

 What style of web pages are you creating?
 On the Wording Tab of the create web page screen what do you have for
 the wording of Events for the individuals and for marriages?

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 22/09/2011 2:35 PM, Dennis Sutton wrote:
 I just started attempting to add .jpg attachments to various events.
 While doing this I noted something strange, not related to the .jpg
 attachment which appears on my on-line web site.

 I have a census entry for my dad and mom.  However, on my dad's website
 view the census is noted as an event while on my mom's view it is
 noted as notes

 Can anyone explain how this happens?  As I said, this was found as part
 of my effort to add .jpg attachments to an event.  In the test file I
 created I entered a census event for both and when I created the web
 site from Legacy both have the census event appear as notes vice event.

 Dennis


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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
Sherry, I also had a data not sticking problem which I thought was down to 
using RAID0 [ticket 200-15E628BF-B368] but have since found this not to be the 
case. (see attached email)
In Carl's case, had he assigned a source to the events that did not stick, he 
would have received a nulls error message and also one saying Master sources 
have been removed from events that no longer exist.
I think the problems are related.

I reiterate that I have not had any problems with nulls or data loss since I 
have stopped using the Legacy-nFS Interface.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 22 September 2011 22:21
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314
and null values...


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Carl Cox ct...@centurytel.net wrote:

snip

 Sherry, I don't know if my problem is the same as reported by Alan, but
 it seems others are experience the same part of the problem I have. It
 would be nice to hear from support on the problem of Data not sticking.

 Carl


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---BeginMessage---
Added information:

When going into nFS and back a recently added birth and residence event
dissapeared off an individual in the nFS serach list.

Compact / Repair produced the following:-

Check/Repair of Legacy Family File: F:\Variable
Data\Genealogy\Legacy\PerNye.fdb

Date: 08-23-2011

Please check this file very carefully.

It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in
this file.

 

 

A Master Source was linked to an event that doesn't exist.
The citation is being removed from this Master Source (Census 1881).

 

Alan Pereira

 

From: Legacy Family Tree Support [mailto:supp...@legacyfamilytree.com] 
Sent: 23 August 2011 10:01
To: alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: re: [200-15E628BF-B368] Legacy Problem Report

 

Your ticket has been received and has been assigned a ticket number of
[200-15E628BF-B368].  Please keep this ticket number for your records and
include it in the subject (including brackets) of all future emails
regarding this issue.

A Legacy representative will address and respond to your question/comment in
a timely and helpful manner. If your concern is resolved before we respond,
you may close this ticket by clicking on the View this Ticket Online link
below.

View this Ticket Online
http://site93.hosted.smartertools.com/Main/frmTicket.aspx?ticketnumber=200-
15E628BF-B368email=alanpereira%40tiscali.co.ukh=A398D7C140B71EFD651942B7CC
DCEDB3 

Thank you,
Technical Support
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

  _  

From: alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 AM
To: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Legacy Problem Report

ProblemReport: 0
Version:Legacy 7.5
VersionNumber:7.5.0.112
BuildDate:2 Aug 2011
OSVersion:Windows 7
CustomerID:72-727-266-36
OSVersionOther:
OneLiner:Birth and event details dissapearing
ErrorMessages:see 5 above
StepsToReproduce:Intermittent. When adding children to parents and adding
birth date / location and a residence event tied to a Census Source. I
switch back to the parents Family View and a number of the chidlren have
lost these details. Check repair identifies null errors and removes sources
tied to events that no longer exist.
when I add them again it all seams OK.
My worry is if other birth dates and events are also dissapearing.
Note: This did not happen when using Legacy on 32bit Vista but has only
started happening on Windows 7 64 bit.
LongDescription:
UserName:Alan Pereira
Phone:044(1268-419150)
EMail:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk

---End Message---


Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
Sigh.  And right after I sent an email to the group about not sending
attachments



Obviously there are several issues at play here. The only one I'm
familiar with is the one we discussed about the null values - which
means that in the database, a field has requirements that *something*
be entered and the field is empty. That's the one I was trying to get
fixed for you.  The nulls are still in the database whether or not you
stopped using nFS and will be there until they've been manually fixed,
which the programmers can do very quickly for you.

It's not missing data, i.e., data disappearing after entering it.
More likely than not you will not know what is missing to create the
null error without getting inside the database.

I suspect that Carl should contact Support and work with one of the
techs on his issue, if he hasn't already. This isn't something we can
resolve by a long discussion on the list.  The whole thread has gotten
very convoluted.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Sherry, I also had a data not sticking problem which I thought was down to 
 using RAID0 [ticket 200-15E628BF-B368] but have since found this not to be 
 the case. (see attached email)
 In Carl's case, had he assigned a source to the events that did not stick, 
 he would have received a nulls error message and also one saying Master 
 sources have been removed from events that no longer exist.
 I think the problems are related.

 I reiterate that I have not had any problems with nulls or data loss since I 
 have stopped using the Legacy-nFS Interface.

 Alan

 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: 22 September 2011 22:21
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

 The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314
 and null values...


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
I suspect that Carl should contact Support and work with one of the
techs on his issue, if he hasn't already. This isn't something we can
resolve by a long discussion on the list.  The whole thread has gotten
very convoluted.

I twice asked support for a comment on how the database handled manual
additions while connected through LFS. The first answer was not to the
question I asked, so I asked again a few months ago. I figured if I was
going to get any answer I would probably have it by now, so I deleted
the tracking number. I know that I will probably lose anything I add
while LFS is working, and I can work around that problem, but I wanted
to understand what was happening. I did not think it would require
discussion, or that if it did, I would get a response to that effect
from support.

Carl



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RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
Can you dig up your ticket ? I will give you the web page to check the

status.

I can't see any way to find my ticket number. It has been too long,
about 3 months I think. Perhaps I could scan the list, if that option is
available.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change

2011-09-22 Thread Beth

The problem isn't with just that year date, it is happening throughout Legacy.  
I type as
17 Jun 1938-9   or 17 Jun 1938/9and it shows up as  0009-17 Jun 1938 .  
Just the input of a year it does not change.  All the date slots.. Born, Bapt, 
Died, Buried is effected.

I have looked in all the options for dates, changed the date.
I have tried changing:
Dates displayed as
Month Format
Separators for numeric dates are checked on dash but changing this box to 
anything else does not fix the problem.
Input format 

The Double Date cutoff is not checked.
Date Checking is not checked.

I have ran the File Maintenance/Check/repair.  Still there.

I have closed everything out, shut the computer down, but still there when I 
turn the computer back on.

I am unable to enter any information into any date slot without this date mess 
showing up.
Beth

On 2011/09/22 05:31, Beth wrote:
 As for the date that won't change I did notice my calendar was lite up
 but nothing in it helped but I do know it is not usually lite. Yes, I used
 the slash when adding a birth date as  '7 Jan 1693/4' but came out as
 1693/94.  I have used that form before with no problem.  I orginially typed 7
 Jan 1693/94.  Typing now and should be:  7 Jan 1694  but goes back to the
 1693/94 each time.
That's correct! In 1752, the calendar as used within the British Empire - and
he USA was part of that at that time - changed from the Julian to the
regorian. Conventionally, dates in the pre-1752 period ran from 25 March to the
ollowing 24 March. Thus, after the calendar change, there was a problem in
nowing which year a date in January and February was actually in. Was it 1693
r was it 1694. To help people know, a convention of double-dating was devised.
his is what you see with a date like 7 Jan 1693/94. The fact that you're
ntering the date as 7 Jan 1693/4 is neither here nor there, the conventional
epresentation uses two digits for the second year, hence 1693/94.
--
egards,
ike Fry
ohannesburg

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Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
You need to enter the full year or else Legacy thinks it's in the first century.

If you're not sure of the year, then enter the date you're most sure
of in the field and add an alternate date.

If it's a date range, then  enter 17 June 1938 - 17 June 1939


Sincerely,
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Beth glassbyb...@aol.com wrote:
 The problem isn't with just that year date, it is happening throughout
 Legacy.  I type as
 17 Jun 1938-9   or 17 Jun 1938/9    and it shows up as  0009-17 Jun 1938
snip
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Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change and slide for more children is gone

2011-09-22 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
How many children? There are screens for 1-5, 1-10 and 1-15. I have some with 
over fifteen and it adds a 'scroll' to get to the last 3 of 18. If needed it 
holds 16-30. I have no family with over 30 children from the same couple, but 
it should work the same. When you have a 'filled table' right click on ANY 
child and it will bring  up the add choices.
Rich in LA CA

From: Beth glassbyb...@aol.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change and slide for more children is gone


How do I add more children when there is no more slots for them and nothing 
pops up when I click around the area?


 


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To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change and slide for more children is gone


Do you mean to view more children? There are multiple ways to add children.


On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Beth glassbyb...@aol.com wrote:

Nothing comes up to explain that section.  It is the slide at the end of the 
children's list in the family view on the right side.  When I have more 
children that the 3 section list of children will handle, by opening the slide 
I can add more children.  It is just gone.





 


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From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date won't change and slide for more children is gone


On 2011/09/21 23:53, Beth wrote:
 I am unable to change a birth date even after I delete what is there and add
 correct date, the orginial date will pop in again and delete the new date.  
 And the slide that allows more children has dissappeared.  Just not there. I
 am afraid I caused all this by trying to change an item I read on the list
 here. I presume that you are referring to the horizontal scroll-bar at the 
 bottom of
the Children portion of the Family tab? If not what and where - we would prefer
Window titles. If you right-click on a child's name, a context menu pops up.
Click on View and select the option that is most appropriate to you. --
Regards,
Mike Fry
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