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2004-12-09 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
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Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Aristarc Diez Redorta
Hi,
we're running three Linux guests under VM.
Each Linux guest definitions is like this :

* 
* *USER LINUX suse version 8 *
* 
USER SUSE80G5 SUSE80G5   1024M 1024M BG 12
SHARE ABS 50%
 OPTION QUICKDSP
* CUATRO PROCESADORES
 MACH ESA 4
 CPU 00 NODEDICATE
 CPU 01 BASE NODEDICATE
 CPU 02 NODEDICATE
 CPU 03 NODEDICATE
*
 IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
 ACCOUNT 1  SUSE80G5
*IUCV ANY P M 10
 CONSOLE 008 3215 T OPERATOR
 SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
 SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
 SPOOL 00E 1403 A
 SPOOL 00A 1403 A
 LINK MAINT 190 190 RR
 LINK MAINT 19D 19D RR
 LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR
* TERMINAL PARA DIALING CONSOLA
 SPECIAL 009 3270
*
 SPECIAL 082 3270
 SPECIAL 083 3270
 SPECIAL 084 3270
 SPECIAL 085 3270
 SPECIAL 087 3270
* add ip desde CTCV hacia el TCPIP1
  SPECIAL 8BA CTCA TCPIP1
  SPECIAL 8BB CTCA TCPIP1
*
*   adds osa ip
* DEDICATE D04 D04
* DEDICATE D05 D05
* DEDICATE D06 D06
*   Discos para linux
 MDISK 0191 3390 0001 0030 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0200 3390 0031 0080 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0201 3390 0111 2500 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0202 3390 2611 2727 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0203 3390 5338 3000 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0204 3390 8338 1662 SUSEC1 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0206 3390 0001 END  SUSEC2 MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0207 3390 0001 END  SUSECD MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0208 3390 0001 END  SUSECE MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0209 3390 0001 END  SUSECF MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 020A 3390 0001 END  SUSECG MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 020B 3390 0001 END  SUSECH MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 020C 3390 0001 END  SUSECI MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE
 MDISK 0205 FB-512 V-DISK  25 WV

i.e, every linux have a total memory of 1024 Mb and a swap area of 128 Mb.
Each Linux guest is running a Domino Server 6.5.2 with 400 mail users ( at
the end there will be five linux guests with 5000 mail users ).

Now, we're having problems with VM paging. Here is a sample of our RTMGEN.

 DEV TYPE VOLSER IOREQST SEC  %Q %ER R %LK  LNK PA %UT  ACC  FPT  DCT   CN
%CN
0A25 3390 430PDI9457 315 .00 .02   .000  4  632010
25
0A33 3390 430P017958 265 .00 .00   .001  4  692010
23

Do you have any idea of we can do to solve this problem?

TIA.



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Betr.: Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Pieter Harder
i.e, every linux have a total memory of 1024 Mb and a swap area of 128
Mb.
Each Linux guest is running a Domino Server 6.5.2 with 400 mail users
( at
the end there will be five linux guests with 5000 mail users ).

Now, we're having problems with VM paging. Here is a sample of our
RTMGEN.

 DEV TYPE VOLSER IOREQST SEC  %Q %ER R %LK  LNK PA %UT  ACC  FPT  DCT
 CN
%CN
0A25 3390 430PDI9457 315 .00 .02   .000  4  63201
  0
25
0A33 3390 430P017958 265 .00 .00   .001  4  69201
  0
23

Do you have any idea of we can do to solve this problem?

You left out the the essential information: how much real do you have
in the
partition? Linux engines tend to use in real what you give them as
Vsize.
So if sum(Vsizes)  available real, you are going to page whatever you
do.

Also, do you have xstore defined? If not the paging may be simply due
to moves
of real pages 2G to 2G. When there is no xstore CP has to do it via
dasd
paging.

So what to do:
- define some xstore if not yet defined for move around the bar.
- shrink the total Vsize to something in range of the available real.
- ensure you have ample paging packs. If you have only the two shown
above
that will probably not be enough. I myself routinely run ~300-400
pages/sec
over 16 3390-3. No problem at all
- if nothing helps evaluate the real available and hope Santa has a big
budget
to get you some more.


Best regards,
Pieter Harder

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Re: Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
I can not add much to what Pieter already explained.

When you expect these virtual machines to be active at the same time,
you should have at least 3-4 GB in z/VM. If you don't have that, then
you need to make the virtual machines smaller (and give more VDISK in
return). If z/VM has that much memory, then you may indeed suffer from
contention under the bar. For a short experiment you could see whether
things improve when you enable MDC in main memory, and disable it in
expanded storage (if you have that).

One additional thing to look at is block paging. If you are short on
page space then VM can not find optimal free slots and your paging
will be inefficient. It would be good to look at the actual page rates
as well.

Also notice there is a link to the 2nd disk - you don't have other
data mixed with the page allocation, have you?

Rob

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Re: Betr.: Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Lufthansa Systems Infratec ZLINUX SYSPROG
I would decrease the memroy for the linux (from 1024 to 512 mb) and use
a vdisk as swap-space (512 mb). Then use xstorage for zvm-paging. Do
monitoring (performance and memory utilization with vmstat/sar). If
possible decrease the memory-size  swap-space for the linux-guest. Use
fcon/esa for monitoring too.
Your linux will page into the fast zvm vdisk. This should be no problem
and is much better then using dasd as swap storage.

Martin Lonkwitz
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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Pieter Harder
Sent: Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 2004 10:12
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Betr.: Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

i.e, every linux have a total memory of 1024 Mb and a swap area of 128
Mb.
Each Linux guest is running a Domino Server 6.5.2 with 400 mail users
( at
the end there will be five linux guests with 5000 mail users ).

Now, we're having problems with VM paging. Here is a sample of our
RTMGEN.

 DEV TYPE VOLSER IOREQST SEC  %Q %ER R %LK  LNK PA %UT  ACC  FPT  DCT
 CN
%CN
0A25 3390 430PDI9457 315 .00 .02   .000  4  63201
  0
25
0A33 3390 430P017958 265 .00 .00   .001  4  69201
  0
23

Do you have any idea of we can do to solve this problem?

You left out the the essential information: how much real do you have in
the partition? Linux engines tend to use in real what you give them as
Vsize.
So if sum(Vsizes)  available real, you are going to page whatever you
do.

Also, do you have xstore defined? If not the paging may be simply due to
moves of real pages 2G to 2G. When there is no xstore CP has to do it
via dasd paging.

So what to do:
- define some xstore if not yet defined for move around the bar.
- shrink the total Vsize to something in range of the available real.
- ensure you have ample paging packs. If you have only the two shown
above that will probably not be enough. I myself routinely run ~300-400
pages/sec over 16 3390-3. No problem at all
- if nothing helps evaluate the real available and hope Santa has a big
budget to get you some more.


Best regards,
Pieter Harder

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tel  +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537

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Re: Betr.: Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Pieter Harder
Your linux will page into the fast zvm vdisk. This should be no
problem
and is much better then using dasd as swap storage.

If you can spare the real to back those vdisks. If you are real
constrained already it won't help you much. You may be better of by
swapping to real disks in that case.



Best regards,
Pieter Harder

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Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Perry
Hi List,
Just hope to save others some pain..

On SLES8 (s390x for sure) - If you run a Y.O.U. with the Automatic option
you will get a new version of the DHCP Server and Tools:

http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb/html/ea8021cbce65fd1c28de304128e49db0.html

If you do *not* have fake_ll in your chandev.conf you DHCP Server will cease
to listen to its clients :-(

All the Best
Mark Perry

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Dynamically adding DASD...

2004-12-09 Thread Nix, Robert P.
I'm missing some minor key point in this process...

I allocated a new minidisk for a Linux image (SuSE SLES 8), and linked it into 
the virtual machine. I've tried CMS formatting it and not formatting it, and it 
appears to have the same problem. I go to /proc/dasd, and issue the command
echo add devices range=491  devices. Then I type cat devices and where I 
expected to see the new device is a line such as:

None(none) at ( 94: 24) is dasdg (ro): unknown

If I now add the device into zipl, and restart the image, the disk will be 
there w/ no problems. What am I doing wrong in the dynamic allocation?

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Re: smbmount question

2004-12-09 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Hi Istvan,
I don't know whether your system will need a new kernel and know nothing of 
patching and make-ing one. My SLES8 kernel is 2.4.21-251.  And I don't know the 
implications of not having fs/cifs in the source.  I do see now on my system 
lsmod doesn't list cifs until after I do a mount.cifs. 

To use mount.cifs I didn't have to change anything on the winxp servers, I 
didn't have to change my linux kernel, I downloaded the mount.cifs.c, did make 
mount.cifs,  read the mount.cifs man page for the parameters syntax and it 
worked first time I tried.
Good luck

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Istvan Nemeth
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: smbmount question

My original :( suse kernel doesn't supports cifs..and now I see the kernel 
source (2.4.19) doesn't have fs/cifs. May I patch it with 

Latest 2.4 Release (gz containing cifs vfs source files and patch for 
kernel makefile and configure)

from the url http://us1.samba.org/samba/Linux_CIFS_client.html, or is it a 
better idea to compile a new 2.4.21 kernel?


Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] rta 2004.12.08 14:36:19 
idpontban:

 I had a problem with smbmount of Win shares that had more than 400-500
 files: ls and mc listed only the first 400-500 file names as if the
 others didn't exist. My IBM Suse SLES8 support said its due to a known
 bug in SMB on the Win-side, not a Linux bug. Suggested I use cifs
 (common internet file system) which is replacing smb.  Cifs is already
 built into winxp and uses same ports as smb.   Cifs solved my problem,
 might solve yours.
 
 Instead of smbmount's I do mount.cifs 
 
 mount.cifs command is the samba mount utility for the cifs filesystem,
 the replacement for smbfs. SLES8 kernel supports cifs but doesn't have
 the mount.cifs command yet. You don't need to run samba to use
 mount.cifs.
 On my SLES8, doing lsmod listed cifs as a loaded kernel module.
 
 If you're interested in trying it:
 Download the c source program file, mount.cifs.c, from 
 url http://us1.samba.org/samba/Linux_CIFS_client.html   the link called:
 Source for cifs mount utility on sambaweb
 
 Download the man page file, mount.cifs.8, from same url, the link
 called:
 man page for mount utility
 Compile the c program with command: make mount.cifs
 creating executable binary: mount.cifs
 
 Copy executable mount.cifs to /usr/local/sbin/
 And copy man page to /usr/local/man/man8/
 

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Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Giancarlo Rodolfi
Answerin all:
- No zone keeping
- No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it directly to
CPU.
- The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
- This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon cards),
macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).
The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through switch. I
cannot turn the logical path online.
- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices were
seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real' data.  The
problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause similar issues.
Swap
in known good components, if possible, to eliminate these possibilities.
Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Davis,
Larry
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.
Larry
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
grodolfi
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
I have the following configuration:
CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=54,STADET=Y
The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has
everything
online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.
q chpid 34
Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 34
offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 34 offline
to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317 Path 34 offline to
devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F Path 34 offline to devices
F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327 Path 34 offline to devices F328
F900
F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 F909
F90A
F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913
F914
F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D
F91E
Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 34
offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 34 offline
to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 34 offline to
devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B F93C F93D F93E Path 34 offline to devices
F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945 F946 Path 34 offline to devices F947
F948
F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 34 offline to devices F94F F950 F951
F952
F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:09 q chpid 36 Path 36 offline to devices
F300
F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 36 offline to devices F308 F309
F30A
F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 36 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313
F314
F315 F316 F317 Path 36 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D
F31E
F31F Path 36 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
Path
36 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 36
offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 36 offline
to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914 F915 F916 Path 36 offline to
devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D F91E Path 36 offline to devices
F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 36 offline to devices F927
F928
F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 36 offline to devices F92F F930 F931
F932
F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 36 offline to devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B
F93C
F93D F93E Path 36 offline to devices F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945
F946
Path 36 offline to devices F947 F948 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 36
offline to devices F94F F950 F951 F952 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:14
vary on f300
HCPCPN6283I Device F300 cannot be varied online because no channel path is
avail able.
HCPCPN6785E Unable to identify device F300 dynamically.
1 device(s) specified; 0 device(s) successfully varied online
Ready(06785); T=0.01/0.01 09:50:49
q path f300
Device F300, Status OFFLINE
CHPIDs to Device F300 (PIM)  : 34 36
 Physically Available (PAM)  : +  +
 Online   (LPM)  : -  -
  Legend + Yes - No
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:51:31
Any clues about what could be happening ?
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Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
Are you sure McData has enabled FICON on the ports?

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


Answerin all:

- No zone keeping
- No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it directly to
CPU.
- The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
- This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon cards),
macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).

The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through switch. I
cannot turn the logical path online.

- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
 2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices
 were seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real'
 data.  The problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause
 similar issues. Swap in known good components, if possible, to
 eliminate these possibilities.

 Scott Ledbetter
 StorageTek

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Davis, Larry
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.

 Larry

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 grodolfi
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

 I have the following configuration:

 CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
 UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=54,STADET=Y

 The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has
 everything online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.

 q chpid 34
 Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307
 Path 34 offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F
 Path 34 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317
 Path 34 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F
 Path 34 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
 Path 34 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906
 Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A
 F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913
 F914
 F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D
 F91E
 Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 34
 offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 34 offline
 to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 34 offline to
 devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B F93C F93D F93E Path 34 offline to devices
 F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945 F946 Path 34 offline to devices F947
 F948
 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 34 offline to devices F94F F950 F951
 F952
 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:09 q chpid 36 Path 36 offline to devices
 F300
 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 36 offline to devices F308 F309
 F30A
 F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 36 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313
 F314
 F315 F316 F317 Path 36 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D
 F31E
 F31F Path 36 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
 Path
 36 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 36
 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 36 offline
 to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914 F915 F916 Path 36 offline to
 devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D F91E Path 36 offline to devices
 F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 36 offline to devices F927
 F928
 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 36 offline to devices F92F F930 F931
 F932
 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 36 offline to devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B
 F93C
 F93D F93E Path 36 offline to devices F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945
 F946
 Path 36 offline to devices F947 F948 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 36
 offline to devices F94F F950 F951 F952 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:14

 vary on f300

 HCPCPN6283I Device F300 cannot be varied online because no channel
 path is avail able.

 HCPCPN6785E Unable to identify device F300 dynamically.

 1 device(s) specified; 0 device(s) successfully varied online

 Ready(06785); T=0.01/0.01 09:50:49

 q path f300
 Device F300, Status OFFLINE
 CHPIDs to Device F300 (PIM)  : 34 36
  Physically Available 

Re: Dynamically adding DASD...

2004-12-09 Thread Jeremy Warren
I believe the command is:

echo -n add device range=491  /proc/dasd/device



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I'm missing some minor key point in this process...

I allocated a new minidisk for a Linux image (SuSE SLES 8), and linked it
into the virtual machine. I've tried CMS formatting it and not formatting
it, and it appears to have the same problem. I go to /proc/dasd, and issue
the command
echo add devices range=491  devices. Then I type cat devices and
where I expected to see the new device is a line such as:

None(none) at ( 94: 24) is dasdg (ro): unknown

If I now add the device into zipl, and restart the image, the disk will be
there w/ no problems. What am I doing wrong in the dynamic allocation?

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Re: Dynamically adding DASD...

2004-12-09 Thread Jeremy Warren
OOPS dropped off the trailing s...


I believe the command is:

echo -n add device range=491  /proc/dasd/devices



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I'm missing some minor key point in this process...

I allocated a new minidisk for a Linux image (SuSE SLES 8), and linked it
into the virtual machine. I've tried CMS formatting it and not formatting
it, and it appears to have the same problem. I go to /proc/dasd, and issue
the command
echo add devices range=491  devices. Then I type cat devices and
where I expected to see the new device is a line such as:

None(none) at ( 94: 24) is dasdg (ro): unknown

If I now add the device into zipl, and restart the image, the disk will be
there w/ no problems. What am I doing wrong in the dynamic allocation?

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Roger Lam
Can any one tell me where to get a version of vnc for Linux 390? I tried to
get it from Sine Nomine, realvnc, Linuxvm.org and Tightvnc. None of their
rpm source works on our Redhat 7.2 Linux390.

I tried to install Tightvnc from the site for s390. When I got the spec file
but coult not rpm -bb. I got the error messge:

rpm -bb tightvnc.spec
tightvnc.spec: No such file or directory

Any help or where can I get help?

Thanks.

Roger
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Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


Can you expand on how to run X?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
Richard:
Are you running X in the session you are trying to reach? If you are
running vnc client from windows, you need that. I know vnc connects but
since the X is not running you see nothing.

Try from your browser and point to http://your ip:5801
The java client would have been already installed when you installed the
vnc viewer.

I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1, hence port 5801.

Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes putty's interface look
great!
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I am attempting to get a vnc session started with Tao390 Linux.  I have
downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start the vncserver on Linux
and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine, but nothing happens.

When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc client running and when
I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has been established with
the WinXP vnc client.

What am I missing?

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Richard Pinion
I'm using the vncserver that was baked into Taolinux/390.  I tried to install 
vnc source RPM  from Sine Nomine also, but it got an error so I gave up.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/09/04 10:29AM 
Can any one tell me where to get a version of vnc for Linux 390? I tried to
get it from Sine Nomine, realvnc, Linuxvm.org and Tightvnc. None of their
rpm source works on our Redhat 7.2 Linux390.

I tried to install Tightvnc from the site for s390. When I got the spec file
but coult not rpm -bb. I got the error messge:

rpm -bb tightvnc.spec
tightvnc.spec: No such file or directory

Any help or where can I get help?

Thanks.

Roger
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From: Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


Can you expand on how to run X?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
Richard:
Are you running X in the session you are trying to reach? If you are
running vnc client from windows, you need that. I know vnc connects but
since the X is not running you see nothing.

Try from your browser and point to http://your ip:5801
The java client would have been already installed when you installed the
vnc viewer.

I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1, hence port 5801.

Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes putty's interface look
great!
__
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Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services;
BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840





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I am attempting to get a vnc session started with Tao390 Linux.  I have
downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start the vncserver on Linux
and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine, but nothing happens.

When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc client running and when
I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has been established with
the WinXP vnc client.

What am I missing?

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 9, 2004, at 9:35 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
I'm using the vncserver that was baked into Taolinux/390.  I tried to
install vnc source RPM  from Sine Nomine also, but it got an error so
I gave up.
Hunh,  We probably should update the web page--IIRC that SRPM is back
from the SUSE 7 days, back before it was a standard package on most
distributions.  It would be nice if we at least gave a hint that it was
quite old, wouldn't it?
Adam
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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Roger Lam
We tried to use Sine Nomine RPM and also got into problem. The message
indicated that it couldn't find any data from the RPM but cat the rpm, it
does have data on it.

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From: Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


I'm using the vncserver that was baked into Taolinux/390.  I tried to
install vnc source RPM  from Sine Nomine also, but it got an error so I gave
up.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/09/04 10:29AM 
Can any one tell me where to get a version of vnc for Linux 390? I tried to
get it from Sine Nomine, realvnc, Linuxvm.org and Tightvnc. None of their
rpm source works on our Redhat 7.2 Linux390.

I tried to install Tightvnc from the site for s390. When I got the spec file
but coult not rpm -bb. I got the error messge:

rpm -bb tightvnc.spec
tightvnc.spec: No such file or directory

Any help or where can I get help?

Thanks.

Roger
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From: Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


Can you expand on how to run X?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
Richard:
Are you running X in the session you are trying to reach? If you are
running vnc client from windows, you need that. I know vnc connects but
since the X is not running you see nothing.

Try from your browser and point to http://your ip:5801
The java client would have been already installed when you installed the
vnc viewer.

I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1, hence port 5801.

Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes putty's interface look
great!
__
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Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services;
BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840





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I am attempting to get a vnc session started with Tao390 Linux.  I have
downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start the vncserver on Linux
and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine, but nothing happens.

When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc client running and when
I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has been established with
the WinXP vnc client.

What am I missing?

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Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Giancarlo Rodolfi
We could not find anything on the swtich configuration panels to do
something like this. I think it should be transparent to the protocol ...
- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:38
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

Are you sure McData has enabled FICON on the ports?
-Original Message-
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Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
Answerin all:
- No zone keeping
- No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it directly
to
CPU.
- The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
- This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon cards),
macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).
The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through switch.
I
cannot turn the logical path online.
- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices
were seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real'
data.  The problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause
similar issues. Swap in known good components, if possible, to
eliminate these possibilities.
Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Davis, Larry
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.
Larry
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
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Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
I have the following configuration:
CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=54,STADET=Y
The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has
everything online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.
q chpid 34
Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307
Path 34 offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F
Path 34 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317
Path 34 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F
Path 34 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
Path 34 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906
Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A
F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913
F914
F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D
F91E
Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path
34
offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 34
offline
to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 34 offline to
devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B F93C F93D F93E Path 34 offline to
devices
F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945 F946 Path 34 offline to devices F947
F948
F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 34 offline to devices F94F F950 F951
F952
F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:09 q chpid 36 Path 36 offline to devices
F300
F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 36 offline to devices F308 F309
F30A
F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 36 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313
F314
F315 F316 F317 Path 36 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D
F31E
F31F Path 36 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
Path
36 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 36
offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 36
offline
to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914 F915 F916 Path 36 offline to
devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D F91E Path 36 offline to
devices
F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 36 offline to devices F927
F928
F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 36 offline to devices F92F F930 F931
F932
F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 36 offline to devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B
F93C
F93D F93E Path 36 offline to devices F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945
F946
Path 36 offline to devices F947 F948 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path
36
offline to devices F94F F950 F951 F952 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:14
vary on f300
HCPCPN6283I Device F300 cannot be varied online because no channel
path is avail able.
HCPCPN6785E Unable to 

Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
FICON enablement on all the switches I have worked with (McData, Brocade,
Inrange/CNT) has been an extra cost feature that is enabled at the port
level. I think you should contact your McData rep and see if they can give
it a look or dial in to the switch.  The switches seem to operate in a layer
above the FCP protocol, so each port needs to know it is connecting to FICON
or FCP.

Scott L.

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


We could not find anything on the swtich configuration panels to do
something like this. I think it should be transparent to the protocol ...

- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:38
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 Are you sure McData has enabled FICON on the ports?

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Giancarlo Rodolfi
 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 Answerin all:

 - No zone keeping
 - No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it
 directly to CPU.
 - The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
 - This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon cards),
 macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).

 The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through
 switch. I cannot turn the logical path online.

 - Original Message -
 From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
 Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
 2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices
 were seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real'
 data.  The problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause
 similar issues. Swap in known good components, if possible, to
 eliminate these possibilities.

 Scott Ledbetter
 StorageTek

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Davis, Larry
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.

 Larry

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 grodolfi
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

 I have the following configuration:

 CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
 UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=54,STADET=Y

 The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has
 everything online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.

 q chpid 34
 Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307
 Path 34 offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F
 Path 34 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317
 Path 34 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F
 Path 34 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
 Path 34 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906
 Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E
 Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914
 F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D
 F91E
 Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path
 34
 offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 34
 offline
 to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 34 offline to
 devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B F93C F93D F93E Path 34 offline to
 devices
 F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 F945 F946 Path 34 offline to devices F947
 F948
 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 34 offline to devices F94F F950 F951
 F952
 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:09 q chpid 36 Path 36 offline to devices
 F300
 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 36 offline to devices F308 F309
 F30A
 F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 36 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313
 F314
 F315 F316 F317 Path 36 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D
 F31E
 F31F Path 36 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
 Path
 36 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 36
 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E 

Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Klaus Bergmann
Vary off / vary on of the CHPIDS from the HMC may also be helpful.

Freundliche Gruesse,
Klaus Bergmann

Linux Architecture and Performance, IBM Lab Boeblingen

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Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Davis, Larry
Look at the issue of the ports on the McData switch start from 4 and
move up from there, the engineers told us it started from 0 or 1 but is
actually starts from 4

Larry Davis 

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 09:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

Answerin all:

- No zone keeping
- No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it directly
to CPU.
- The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
- This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon
cards), macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).

The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through
switch. I cannot turn the logical path online.

- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
 2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices 
 were seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real' 
 data.  The problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause
similar issues.
 Swap
 in known good components, if possible, to eliminate these
possibilities.

 Scott Ledbetter
 StorageTek

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Davis, Larry
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems


 Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.

 Larry

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 grodolfi
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

 I have the following configuration:

 CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
 CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
 UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
 IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
 UNITADD=54,STADET=Y

 The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has 
 everything online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.

 q chpid 34
 Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 
 Path 34 offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F 
 Path 34 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317 
 Path 34 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F 
 Path 34 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327 
 Path 34 offline to devices F328 F900
 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 
 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 
 F911 F912 F913
 F914
 F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C 
 F91D F91E Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 
 F925 F926 Path 34 offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C 
 F92D F92E Path 34 offline to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 F933 F934 
 F935 F936 Path 34 offline to devices F937 F938 F939 F93A F93B F93C 
 F93D F93E Path 34 offline to devices F93F F940 F941 F942 F943 F944 
 F945 F946 Path 34 offline to devices F947
 F948
 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E Path 34 offline to devices F94F F950 
 F951
 F952
 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:50:09 q chpid 36 Path 36 offline to devices

 F300
 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307 Path 36 offline to devices F308 
 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F Path 36 offline to devices F310 
 F311 F312 F313
 F314
 F315 F316 F317 Path 36 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C 
 F31D F31E F31F Path 36 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 
 F325 F326 F327 Path
 36 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906 Path 36 
 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E Path 36 
 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914 F915 F916 Path 36 
 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D F91E Path 36 
 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path 36 
 offline to devices F927
 F928
 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 36 offline to devices F92F F930 
 F931
 F932
 F933 F934 F935 F936 Path 36 offline to devices F937 F938 F939 F93A 
 F93B F93C F93D F93E Path 36 offline to devices F93F F940 F941 F942 
 F943 F944 F945
 F946
 Path 36 offline to devices F947 F948 F949 F94A F94B F94C F94D F94E 
 Path 36 offline to devices F94F F950 F951 F952 F953 Ready; T=0.01/0.01

 09:50:14

 vary on f300

 HCPCPN6283I Device F300 cannot be varied online because no channel 
 path is avail able.

 HCPCPN6785E Unable to identify device F300 dynamically.

 1 device(s) specified; 0 device(s) 

Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

2004-12-09 Thread Giancarlo Rodolfi
Well:
I have the disk (FCP from switch and FICON directly attached) and the tape
(FCP from switch) working well.
I will take a look at the recomendation to talk with mcdata people. I've
heard about the port displacement (0 is 4) but we did no tried that. And we
did a CHPID off and ON using zvm not from HMC, so I can't say if this would
help but it will be nice to try. All the chpids, links, etc, were ok from
the zvm, z800, mcdata and shark but the logical path is off for all dasds
when the shark and z800 are connected to switch.
We are using the devices now and it will be quite difficult to do some
changes in the configuration now. Maybe at the beggining of the 2005.
Thank in advance.
- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 14:29
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

FICON enablement on all the switches I have worked with (McData, Brocade,
Inrange/CNT) has been an extra cost feature that is enabled at the port
level. I think you should contact your McData rep and see if they can give
it a look or dial in to the switch.  The switches seem to operate in a
layer
above the FCP protocol, so each port needs to know it is connecting to
FICON
or FCP.
Scott L.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
We could not find anything on the swtich configuration panels to do
something like this. I think it should be transparent to the protocol ...
- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:38
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

Are you sure McData has enabled FICON on the ports?
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Giancarlo Rodolfi
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
Answerin all:
- No zone keeping
- No problems with cables. The shark is working if I connect it
directly to CPU.
- The FCP, disk and tape are working using the switch
- This is a brand new installation: z800 (old machine with 2 ficon
cards),
macdata s3232, z750, Ultrium Tape (LTO).
The only thing is I cannot use the ficon to shark passing through
switch. I cannot turn the logical path online.
- Original Message -
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 13:48
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems

1) Do you have zoning keeping the in port from seeing the out port?
2) I had a Fibre Channel problem a few months ago where the devices
were seen by the switch, but couldn't transfer one iota of 'real'
data.  The problem was a bad GBIC.  I think bad cables can cause
similar issues. Swap in known good components, if possible, to
eliminate these possibilities.
Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Davis, Larry
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
Is this a new McData FICON switch or do you already have items on it.
Larry
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
grodolfi
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 09:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: z800 Shark 750 McData 3232 zVM 4.3 Ficon Problems
I have the following configuration:
CHPID PATH=(34),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CHPID PATH=(36),TYPE=FC,PARTITION=(ZVM01),SWITCH=01
CNTLUNIT   CUNUMBR=FD01,PATH=(34,36),UNITADD=((00,125)),
UNIT=3990,CUADD=0,LINK=(01,03)
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F900,84),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=00,STADET=Y
IODEVICE   ADDRESS=(F300,41),CUNUMBR=(FD01),UNIT=3390,
UNITADD=54,STADET=Y
The logical path to dasd are not becoming online. The McData has
everything online and from the CPU side everything seems ok too.
q chpid 34
Path 34 offline to devices F300 F301 F302 F303 F304 F305 F306 F307
Path 34 offline to devices F308 F309 F30A F30B F30C F30D F30E F30F
Path 34 offline to devices F310 F311 F312 F313 F314 F315 F316 F317
Path 34 offline to devices F318 F319 F31A F31B F31C F31D F31E F31F
Path 34 offline to devices F320 F321 F322 F323 F324 F325 F326 F327
Path 34 offline to devices F328 F900 F901 F902 F903 F904 F905 F906
Path 34 offline to devices F907 F908 F909 F90A F90B F90C F90D F90E
Path 34 offline to devices F90F F910 F911 F912 F913 F914
F915 F916 Path 34 offline to devices F917 F918 F919 F91A F91B F91C F91D
F91E
Path 34 offline to devices F91F F920 F921 F922 F923 F924 F925 F926 Path
34
offline to devices F927 F928 F929 F92A F92B F92C F92D F92E Path 34
offline
to devices F92F F930 F931 F932 

Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Benjamin White
Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I just use a X sever on my PC client and start the GUI
programs from ssh.


--- Roger Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We tried to use Sine Nomine RPM and also got into
 problem. The message
 indicated that it couldn't find any data from the
 RPM but cat the rpm, it
 does have data on it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:35 AM
 Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


 I'm using the vncserver that was baked into
 Taolinux/390.  I tried to
 install vnc source RPM  from Sine Nomine also, but
 it got an error so I gave
 up.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/09/04 10:29AM 
 Can any one tell me where to get a version of vnc
 for Linux 390? I tried to
 get it from Sine Nomine, realvnc, Linuxvm.org and
 Tightvnc. None of their
 rpm source works on our Redhat 7.2 Linux390.

 I tried to install Tightvnc from the site for s390.
 When I got the spec file
 but coult not rpm -bb. I got the error messge:

 rpm -bb tightvnc.spec
 tightvnc.spec: No such file or directory

 Any help or where can I get help?

 Thanks.

 Roger
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


 Can you expand on how to run X?

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
 Richard:
 Are you running X in the session you are trying to
 reach? If you are
 running vnc client from windows, you need that. I
 know vnc connects but
 since the X is not running you see nothing.

 Try from your browser and point to http://your
 ip:5801
 The java client would have been already installed
 when you installed the
 vnc viewer.

 I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1,
 hence port 5801.

 Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes
 putty's interface look
 great!
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 I am attempting to get a vnc session started with
 Tao390 Linux.  I have
 downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start
 the vncserver on Linux
 and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine,
 but nothing happens.

 When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc
 client running and when
 I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has
 been established with
 the WinXP vnc client.

 What am I missing?


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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Ranga Nathan
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Can you expand on how to run X?
You need to install X server from your distro or google for it. We use
SuSE9 and it has X server available for install but I have chosen not to
use it. After the install, from your shell, you do something like 'startx'
(that is what I used in Slackware on intel) and then 'vncserver'.

vncserver is a wrapper on top of x.

x, vnc and Gnome2 / KDE combination would put a significant load on CPU.
It is ok on Lintel workstations but in a CPU-starved mainframe
environment, I would personally (IMHO) not use it.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
Richard:
Are you running X in the session you are trying to reach? If you are
running vnc client from windows, you need that. I know vnc connects but
since the X is not running you see nothing.

Try from your browser and point to http://your ip:5801
The java client would have been already installed when you installed the
vnc viewer.

I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1, hence port 5801.

Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes putty's interface look
great!
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I am attempting to get a vnc session started with Tao390 Linux.  I have
downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start the vncserver on Linux
and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine, but nothing happens.

When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc client running and when
I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has been established with
the WinXP vnc client.

What am I missing?

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Re: VIPA and hot standby

2004-12-09 Thread Alan Schilla
Thanks for all the great responses. I figured this could be accomplished and
I am not surprised there is more than 1 method to be reviewed. Every
response is helpful and will save me a lot of running around.
Thanks Again,
Al

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Subject: Re: VIPA and hot standby


On Wednesday, 12/08/2004 at 04:21 CST, Adam Thornton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2004, at 4:17 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote:

  Perhaps the right combination of special priviledge class and the hcp
  module would help.
 
 You'd need to modify heartbeat-stonith's source to execute hcp FORCE
 user WITHIN interval but it shouldn't be hard.  I don't remember
 whether the actual shoot the other node code is modular, but I'd
 think it must be, because pulling the plug must have a bunch of
 different interfaces.  Maybe you just need to write a VM plugin for it.

Now y'all cut that out.  Use the z/VM System Management APIs; that's what
they're for.  No need to give the HA monitors all that privilege.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Richard Pinion
I was attempting to do this on Linux/390 running under Hercules.  When I booted 
Linux/390 on real iron, the vnclient started working 

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Can you expand on how to run X?
You need to install X server from your distro or google for it. We use
SuSE9 and it has X server available for install but I have chosen not to
use it. After the install, from your shell, you do something like 'startx'
(that is what I used in Slackware on intel) and then 'vncserver'.

vncserver is a wrapper on top of x.

x, vnc and Gnome2 / KDE combination would put a significant load on CPU.
It is ok on Lintel workstations but in a CPU-starved mainframe
environment, I would personally (IMHO) not use it.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/04 05:37PM 
Richard:
Are you running X in the session you are trying to reach? If you are
running vnc client from windows, you need that. I know vnc connects but
since the X is not running you see nothing.

Try from your browser and point to http://your ip:5801
The java client would have been already installed when you installed the
vnc viewer.

I noted that by default vnc starts up as display 1, hence port 5801.

Alas, what you get on the browser without X makes putty's interface look
great!
__
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I am attempting to get a vnc session started with Tao390 Linux.  I have
downloaded a vnc client to my WinXP box.  I start the vncserver on Linux
and then start the vnc client on my Windows machine, but nothing happens.

When I look at the WinXP Taskmgr I can see the vnc client running and when
I do a netstat -a from Linux I can see a session has been established with
the WinXP vnc client.

What am I missing?

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Re: Dynamically adding DASD...

2004-12-09 Thread Ferguson, Neale
insmod dasd_mod dasd=...

-Original Message-
I had the same problem. I tried to detect using 'insmod dasd dasd=0158'
but it could not find the 'dasd' module.

But when I used yast, dasd, it showed up and I activated it

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
VNC is a little easier on the CPU cycles that straight X 


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Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I just use a X sever on my PC client and start the GUI
programs from ssh.

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IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread Randy Campbell
Greetings

May I pose a question to survey (universities especially) on how your
institutions have (plan to)  implemented an IFL platform for support of
administrative/academic initiatives using an Linux or linux-z/Vm
environment?
I am aware of the potential uses documented for this type of environment,
but I am interested in what others have pursued (successful/unsuccessful).

Thanks in advance!

Randy
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Mgr., Systems Support
 Administration Computing Services
 Kent State University
 (330) 672-1310

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mono 1.1.3 for SLES9 (.NET for zSeries)

2004-12-09 Thread Ferguson, Neale
The 1.1.3 version of Mono (the .NET infrastructure for Open Systems) is 
available at http://mono-project.com/downloads. This has been built for SLES9 
(it uses the new pthread library). This drop includes the Just In Time (JIT) 
compiler. If you decide to install mono-web-1.1.3-1.ximian.0.1.s390.rpm then 
use --nodeps as I made a mistake with the spec file. 

In addition to all the mono_ RPMS there is mod_mono which allows you to serve 
.aspx etc. from Apache. 

I am attempting to build RPMs for SLES8 when I get some spare time. Note, 
however, you need to be on a z8xx or z9xx to use the JIT as it uses the long 
relative instructions (e.g. LARL). I'm not sure if Hercules or FLEX support 
these instructions though I suspect they do.

Neale

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Notes 6.5.2 for zSeries. Can anyone help me?

2004-12-09 Thread Barton Robinson
There are many potential problems here. You might want
to download the IBM Redbook:
IBM LOTUS DOMINO 6.5 for LINUX on zSeries Implementation
and review the chapters on performance and capacity planning.

Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:57:57 +0100
From: Aristarc Diez Redorta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
we're running three Linux guests under VM.
Each Linux guest definitions is like this :

i.e, every linux have a total memory of 1024 Mb and a swap area
of 128 Mb.  Each Linux guest is running a Domino Server 6.5.2
with 400 mail users (at the end there will be five linux
guests with 5000 mail users ).

Now, we're having problems with VM paging.  Here is a sample of
our RTMGEN.

 DEV TYPE VOLSER IOREQST SEC  %Q %ER R %LK  LNK PA %UT  ACC  FPT  DCT %CN
0A25 3390 430PDI9457 315 .00 .02   .000  4  63201 25
0A33 3390 430P017958 265 .00 .00   .001  4  69201 23

Do you have any idea of we can do to solve this problem?

TIA.


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Re: Dynamically adding DASD...

2004-12-09 Thread Carsten Otte
I allocated a new minidisk for a Linux image (SuSE SLES 8), and linked it
into the virtual machine. I've tried CMS formatting it and not formatting
it, and it appears to have the same problem. I go to /proc/dasd, and issue
the command
echo add devices range=491  devices. Then I type cat devices and
where I expected to see the new device is a line such as:

None(none) at ( 94: 24) is dasdg (ro): unknown

If I now add the device into zipl, and restart the image, the disk will
be there w/ no problems. What am I doing wrong in the dynamic allocation?
Which Linux distribution do you use?

with kind regards
Carsten Otte
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OpenOffice 1.1.3 build error.

2004-12-09 Thread Brandon Darbro
Might anyone be able to help me with this?  I'm trying to build
OpenOffice 1.1.3 and it gets about an hour into it and then dies with
some Java compile error.  I'm wondering if it's because the sdk is IBM's
and not Sun's.  Thoughts?
Details on the system:
   z800 / two IFL's
   Linux under VM
   IBMJava2-SDK-1.4.1-0.0
   jakarta-ant-1.5.1-37
And now the build error from OOo's dmake:
=
Building project sandbox
=
/home/bsd3488/build/OOo_1.1.3_src/sandbox/com/sun/star/lib/sandbox
Making dpj...
.
javac -classpath
.:../../../../../unxlngs390.pro/class:/opt/IBMJava2-s390-141/jre/lib/core.jar:.
-d ../../../../../unxlngs390.pro/class  AudioProxy.java
 Cachable.java
ClassContext.java   ClassContextImpl.java
ClassContextProxy.java
CodeSource.java   Disposable.java
  ExecutionContext.java
   Holder.java
ImageProducerProxy.java   JarEntry.java
  JarInputStream.java
Permission.java
PermissionCollection.java ProtectionDomain.java
  Resource.java
   ResourceImpl.java   ResourceProxy.java
 ResourceViewer.java
SandboxMessageHandler.java  SandboxThreadGroup.java
SandboxSecurity.java
SandboxSecurityException.java WeakRef.java
  WeakTable.java
   WeakEntry.java  XImage.java
SandboxSecurity.java:147: sun.security.provider.IdentityDatabase is not
public in sun.security.provider; cannot be accessed from outside package
if (scope instanceof IdentityDatabase) {
 ^
SandboxSecurity.java:148: sun.security.provider.IdentityDatabase is not
public in sun.security.provider; cannot be accessed from outside package
this.scope = (IdentityDatabase)scope;
  ^
Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details.
2 errors
dmake:  Error code 1, while making
'../../../../../unxlngs390.pro/misc/lib_sandbox_dummy.java'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---
ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making
/home/bsd3488/build/OOo_1.1.3_src/sandbox/com/sun/star/lib/sandbox
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'build_all'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---
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Re: IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread Jason J. Herne
Randy,

I'm leading a group of students working some z/VM / Linux related
projects at Clarkson University.  Our flagship project webpage is
located at:

http://www.clarkson.edu/projects/cosi/zTeam/zvmgui/

We currently run a 2066-OLF with 1 CP and 8 GB of memory.  We normally
have 5-10 Linux images up and running, but we have had  Linux on
zSeries install days where a lab of 20-30 people were all installing
RedHat (at the same time) to different guests.  The performance during
the installs was definitely acceptable.
There have been talks of using z/VM guests running Linux for our
operating systems class.  Students are required to make Linux kernel
modifications as part of a project for this class.  Until now we have
been using VMWare for this.

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On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 13:11 -0500, Randy Campbell wrote:
 Greetings

 May I pose a question to survey (universities especially) on how your
 institutions have (plan to)  implemented an IFL platform for support of
 administrative/academic initiatives using an Linux or linux-z/Vm
 environment?
 I am aware of the potential uses documented for this type of environment,
 but I am interested in what others have pursued (successful/unsuccessful).

 Thanks in advance!

 Randy
 ~
 Randy Campbell
 Mgr., Systems Support
  Administration Computing Services
  Kent State University
  (330) 672-1310

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Ranga Nathan
IMHO, plain vnc via browser and without X  does not add any value. Putty
is much better.
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VNC is a little easier on the CPU cycles that straight X


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Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I just use a X sever on my PC client and start the GUI
programs from ssh.

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Re: IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread Martha McConaghy
Randy,

Are you interested in IFL only?  We have nearly 600 Linux servers running
on z/VM, but using standard processors, no IFL.


Martha

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 9, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ranga Nathan wrote:
IMHO, plain vnc via browser and without X  does not add any value.
Putty
is much better.
Hunh?
VNC exports a desktop (well, technically, a rectangular bitmap, I
think) and relays mouse and keyboard commands to it, and updates the
bitmap it sends as it changes.  On Unix, therefore, vncserver runs
what's basically X-with-a-framebuffer in order to provide that
rectangular bitmap in the first place.  On a Unix box, there's really
no such thing as vnc-without-X.  I guess if you *had* a
framebuffer-based text display you COULD export it via vnc, but that
would be pretty dumb (although, sadly, not that different than what
many Intel servers do to have a serial console, which is--I am Not
Making This Up--to turn a VGA video stream into something they're
running over RS-232 (or sometimes USB, which is at least fast enough
that it's not insanely painful) and ship that out over the wire for
reconstituting into an image at the other end).
However, vncserver is running, usually, with a very lightweight window
manager--fvwm or something--rather than the bloated hog of a full-on
KDE or Gnome environment.  And X itself isn't all that
resource-intensive by modern standards.
That said, yeah, I also forego it in favor of plain old ssh whenever
possible, because Unix is designed, pretty much, around the concept of
sharp simple tools that take input from stdin, write output to stdout,
write errors to stderr, and can pipe one process's stdout to the next
one's stdin.  So, honestly, a 24x80 terminal window gives you almost
complete functionality, and you can still get quite a lot done with a
dumb (glass tty) terminal (e.g. 3215 console mode).  But then I'm
pretty much a Luddite when it comes to pretty interfaces (I
hypocritically type into the lovely and useful Mac Mail.app).
Adam
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Re: IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread James Melin
Just curious, why no IFL? Do you have any z/os work on those processors?
Just wondering how you are beating the 'per engine' charge most z/os
software is billed at. Of course, it you have all z/vm  Linux that makes
no difference




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Randy,

Are you interested in IFL only?  We have nearly 600 Linux servers running
on z/VM, but using standard processors, no IFL.


Martha

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Richard Troth
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Benjamin White wrote:
 Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?

I rely on it HEAVILY for the disconnect/reconnect feature.

Adam affirms use of SSH (which can tunnel your X traffic)
and that's probably even more efficient on bandwidth than VNC.

But you asked about  VNC to a Linux system.
If you meant  VNC to a Linux-on-zSeries system  then there
would also be the CPU intensive nature of the VNC server to consider.
The value of a VNC server on mainframe Linux is largely proof-of-concept.

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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
Rick wrote:
 Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I rely on it HEAVILY for the disconnect/reconnect feature.

A helpful person from Levanta suggested the screen package for this.
Someday, I'll get around to actually trying it out!

The value of a VNC server on mainframe Linux is largely
proof-of-concept.
Or the occasional product that seems to think it absolutely has to
install that way. 


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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:41 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I rely on it HEAVILY for the disconnect/reconnect feature.
A helpful person from Levanta suggested the screen package for this.
Someday, I'll get around to actually trying it out!
Screen is wonderful.  Magnificent.  Fabulous.  Better than sex and
chocolate put together.
Well, not quite that good.  But it's an excellent program.
Or the occasional product that seems to think it absolutely has to
install that way.
cough Java-based crap cough
Adam
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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Ranga Nathan
Even on intel, I am impatient to navigate via Gnome/KDE to get to things.
Almost involuntarily, I open up an xterm session and do things there.
That's me I guess!
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On Dec 9, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ranga Nathan wrote:

 IMHO, plain vnc via browser and without X  does not add any value.
 Putty
 is much better.

Hunh?

VNC exports a desktop (well, technically, a rectangular bitmap, I
think) and relays mouse and keyboard commands to it, and updates the
bitmap it sends as it changes.  On Unix, therefore, vncserver runs
what's basically X-with-a-framebuffer in order to provide that
rectangular bitmap in the first place.  On a Unix box, there's really
no such thing as vnc-without-X.  I guess if you *had* a
framebuffer-based text display you COULD export it via vnc, but that
would be pretty dumb (although, sadly, not that different than what
many Intel servers do to have a serial console, which is--I am Not
Making This Up--to turn a VGA video stream into something they're
running over RS-232 (or sometimes USB, which is at least fast enough
that it's not insanely painful) and ship that out over the wire for
reconstituting into an image at the other end).

However, vncserver is running, usually, with a very lightweight window
manager--fvwm or something--rather than the bloated hog of a full-on
KDE or Gnome environment.  And X itself isn't all that
resource-intensive by modern standards.

That said, yeah, I also forego it in favor of plain old ssh whenever
possible, because Unix is designed, pretty much, around the concept of
sharp simple tools that take input from stdin, write output to stdout,
write errors to stderr, and can pipe one process's stdout to the next
one's stdin.  So, honestly, a 24x80 terminal window gives you almost
complete functionality, and you can still get quite a lot done with a
dumb (glass tty) terminal (e.g. 3215 console mode).  But then I'm
pretty much a Luddite when it comes to pretty interfaces (I
hypocritically type into the lovely and useful Mac Mail.app).

Adam

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Re: IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread Ranga Nathan
User Mode Linux (UML)?
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Just curious, why no IFL? Do you have any z/os work on those processors?
Just wondering how you are beating the 'per engine' charge most z/os
software is billed at. Of course, it you have all z/vm  Linux that makes
no difference




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Randy,

Are you interested in IFL only?  We have nearly 600 Linux servers running
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Martha

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Re: IFL shops - what are you supporting with this environment

2004-12-09 Thread Ranga Nathan
Silly me, I did not see that Martha is running guests under z/VM. I am
recalling my last mail re: UML :-)
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Just curious, why no IFL? Do you have any z/os work on those processors?
Just wondering how you are beating the 'per engine' charge most z/os
software is billed at. Of course, it you have all z/vm  Linux that makes
no difference




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Randy,

Are you interested in IFL only?  We have nearly 600 Linux servers running
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Re: vncserver/vncclient

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Post
I use screen a lot, and it is very nice indeed.  (It's also one of the
Slack/390 packages I build.)  Whoever wrote it, deserves a reward.  One of
the cool things you can do with it is share an SSH session with someone
else so they can see exactly what you're doing, or they can let them do some
of the typing.  Great for demonstrations, or showing someone exactly how an
error is getting generated, etc.  Or, its a way for the system administrator
to see just what a user is doing to generate an error.  Probably the more
likely case.  :)

As far as the occasional product that seems to think it absolutely has to
install that way, if you have X forwarding turned on in your sshd_config
file, and your SSH client supports it, you do _not_ have to run X or VNC on
the system where you're doing the install.  It all gets tunneled back to
your desktop where you will need some kind of X server running (Exceed,
X-Win32, Cygwin, etc.).  This consumes the least amount of CPU and network
resources, because only the one application is running.

VNC is only necessary if for some reason you need some kind of
desktop/window manager running on the actual Linux system.  I haven't run
into that need yet.  I doubt I ever will.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Marcy Cortes
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vncserver/vncclient


Rick wrote:
 Why would one even want to use VNC to a Linux system?
I rely on it HEAVILY for the disconnect/reconnect feature.

A helpful person from Levanta suggested the screen package for this.
Someday, I'll get around to actually trying it out!

The value of a VNC server on mainframe Linux is largely proof-of-concept.

Or the occasional product that seems to think it absolutely has to
install that way.


Marcy Cortes

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Re: Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Post
Hmmm.  System Programmer Answer #1: Why would anybody want to do that?  (Run
with auto update turned on.)  Whenever anyone on my team brings up the idea
I take a baseball bat to them.  I've never blindly used SMP/E to put on
maintenance, I sure as shooting am not going to let RPM do it.

But, thanks for the warning.  That really was kind of an interesting update
they decided to put out.  I'm curious as to where the 'fake_ll' parameter
gets specified.


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Mark Perry
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll


Hi List,
Just hope to save others some pain..

On SLES8 (s390x for sure) - If you run a Y.O.U. with the Automatic option
you will get a new version of the DHCP Server and Tools:

http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb/html/ea8021cbce65fd1c28de304128e49db0.html

If you do *not* have fake_ll in your chandev.conf you DHCP Server will cease
to listen to its clients :-(

All the Best
Mark Perry

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Re: Release of CICS Transaction Server for zLinux

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Post
Hmm.  As always with these kind of announcements, I wonder if the CICS
offering on the Linux platform will include S/390 and zSeries or not.


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Steve Ware
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Release of CICS Transaction Server for zLinux


Here's what IBM has officially said so far, about CICS for Linux:

IBM Announcement Letter No. ZP04-0135 dated April 13, 2004.

IBM TXSeries for Multiplatforms V5.1 improves compatibility with CICS
Transaction Server for z/OS and interoperability with WebSphere Application
Server

Statement of General Direction

IBM recognizes the significance and benefits of the Linux operating system
to CICS customers who have chosen TXSeries for their applications. It is
IBM's intention to release a CICS offering on the Linux platform in 2005 in
order to provide:

o A strategic migration path for TXSeries CICS customers wishing
to maximize business value by consolidating heterogeneous distributed
transactional application workloads to a single Linux operating
environment.

o An entry-level CICS transaction server offering that enables
cost-effective execution of new mixed-language transactional solutions that
can be readily migrated to any CICS platform to support future increases in
business demands.

CICS for Linux will provide improved installation, configuration, and
administration but without a DCE prerequisite.

All statements regarding IBM's plans, directions, and intent are subject to
change or withdrawal without notice.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Rich Smrcina wrote:

 Greg,

 The best that we have at this point is a statement of direction.  Rumor
 is that it should hit the street sometime next year.

 Greg Evans wrote:
  Is it the case that IBM will be coming out with a version of CICS that
  will run on SUSe Linux ?
  I have searched the web, however I have only gotten hits for CICS
  Transaction Gateway.
  If you know otherwise please share that information.   Thanks,  Greg
Evans
 
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Re: SuSE SLES8 and z/VM 5.1 problem

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Post
You say you're not able to boot SLES8 from the virtual reader, but then you
say you get all the way through the install, but the writing of the IPL text
fails.  That's a little confusing.

I've seen various programs through out bus errors in the past when there
wasn't enough virtual storage on the system.  How much virtual storage does
this guest have defined, and which installation method (VNC, SSH, whatever)
are you using?


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Wiggins, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE SLES8 and z/VM 5.1 problem


OK, brief history and then my question. We just purchased a z890, moved our
current z/VM 3.1.0 system to the GP and installed z/VM 5.1 on the IFL. I
moved over 2 different flavors of Linux (Debian and Redhat) to the IFL and
they work great. With the purchase of our new box we received SuSE
licensing.

Here's my question:
I'm able to bring SuSE SLES8 up on z/VM 3.1 and it works fine. I'm able to
move the instance to the z/VM 5.1 system and it works fine there. What I'm
not able to do is boot SLES8 from the reader on z/VM 5.1. I go through most
of the install process in YAST right up to the point of Prepare system for
initial boot. It won't write out the IPL records to my boot disk. I receive
the below error on the VM console and I end up with an non-IPL'able disk on
VM. When I look at it with DDR, I don't see the first 2 IPL records that I
see on other Linux boot disks.

User process fault: interruption code 0x60038 ,

CPU: 0 Tainted: P ,

Process y2base (pid: 666, task: 0789, ksp: 07893b88) ,

User PSW : 0705e0018000 01077f5e ,

User GPRS: 0001 0101f6d0 7865637574652063
01ffce18 ,

010e0de8 012d6902 01ffd098
01ffd1e8 ,

01ffcee8 80009250 
80043cc0 ,

01016e88 010ccb20 01077f3e
01ffce18 ,

User ACRS: 0100 002e5720   ,

    ,

    ,

    ,

User Code: e3 40 20 00 00 04 a7 3b 00 d0 e3 10 40 20 00 04 0d e1 c0 30 ,

/usr/lib/YaST2/bin/YaST2: line 296: 666 Bus error y2base $modulename

$moduleargs qt -style=platinum -fn $Y2_XFONT ,

-geometry 800x600+1+1 -no-wm $qt_bg

umount: /var/adm/mount: not mounted

Dec 1 21:32:15 suse sshd]182(: Received signal 15; terminating.

]0;37;40m

*** An error occurred during the installation!



Has anyone seen this before? I've tried writing to 3380, 3390 and 9336
disks. I've tried formatting them in VM, in Linux, on the 3.1 system, all to
no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. One last note, the
interruption code changes depending (I think) on which type of device I'm
trying to write too.

Mark Wiggins
University of Connecticut
Operating Systems Programmer
860-486-2792






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Re: Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Perry
Hi Mark,
Regarding auto update: I have the luxury of being in more of a test rather
than production environment, so throwing all the latest patches on is
perhaps more common, after all the point is to find these problems ;-)

fake_ll generates the LLC info; see the IBM Device Drivers and Commands
manual.

Here is example usage from /etc/chandev.conf:

noauto;qeth7,0x0B00,0x0B01,0x0B02;add_parms,0x10,0x0B00,0x0B02,portname:FC2F
EL2,hw_checksumming,primary_router,fake_ll

All the Best
Mark Perry


 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
 Post
 Sent: 10 December 2004 00:07
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll
 
 Hmmm.  System Programmer Answer #1: Why would anybody want to do that?
 (Run
 with auto update turned on.)  Whenever anyone on my team brings up the
 idea
 I take a baseball bat to them.  I've never blindly used SMP/E to put on
 maintenance, I sure as shooting am not going to let RPM do it.
 
 But, thanks for the warning.  That really was kind of an interesting
 update
 they decided to put out.  I'm curious as to where the 'fake_ll' parameter
 gets specified.
 
 
 Mark Post
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Mark Perry
 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Warning - SLES8 DHCP Server now needs fake_ll
 
 
 Hi List,
 Just hope to save others some pain..
 
 On SLES8 (s390x for sure) - If you run a Y.O.U. with the Automatic option
 you will get a new version of the DHCP Server and Tools:
 
 http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb/html/ea8021cbce65fd1c28de304128e49db0.html
 
 If you do *not* have fake_ll in your chandev.conf you DHCP Server will
 cease
 to listen to its clients :-(
 
 All the Best
 Mark Perry
 
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