[MacGroup] ISP advice

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I know the group has discussed services many times, any current recommendations 
for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I rec’d a letter this 
week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which would be free for 24 
months (no indication how much afterward). They also informed me they are 
taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable TV package. I don’t 
watch much TV, but still feel violated.

So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a lower 
tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I hate the 
lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 

Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?

Thank you
Andy





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[MacGroup] Blind Trust In Email Could Cost You Your Home

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

Hi John,

There is some good news. The regulators are examining changing some rules that 
give us financial advisors a little more discretion in helping out with clients 
who may be targets for cyber- or other criminals. In the past, we would have to 
act immediately upon instructions to liquidate securities and send funds. It 
appears we may be given more latitude to delay the disbursement of funds if we 
suspect a vulnerable client is at risk. We may also contact close relatives, or 
take other steps to help protect assets. As a Fiduciary, I would visit a client 
in a facility and/or work closely with family members to make sure funds were 
not being hijacked by outside predators, if need be.

We do live in crazy times, and there are no sure fire ways, as you suggest, but 
here are a few to consider:

- Make sure you are working with a Fiduciary, not a broker/dealer
- Always call with instructions, never rely on email.
- Ask your banking and financial companies how they would handle requests to 
distribute funds and make sure they have an emergency contact person/number on 
file
- Never click on a link in an email you were not already expecting
- I never answer my home phone any longer. I let it go to VM and only call back 
if I need to
- Never give your credit card number to a stranger who calls you on the phone

Hope this helps!


Andy

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> From: John Humphries <johnedna2...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Blind Trust In Email Could Cost You Your Home
> Date: April 29, 2017 at 12:07:24 PM EDT
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> 
> Great advice for all of us to heed.
> The sad thing, though, is that some of us are moving on in years and perhaps 
> not always thinking clearly. I will be 80 this year for example.
> There are predators (email and phone) that will take advantage of the 
> elderly. 
> I wish there were sure fire ways for banks, etc.to <http://etc.to/> protect 
> their elderly account holders to avoid such fraud. Perhaps requiring two or 
> more to confirm a transaction? 
> I get emails and phone calls from obvious predators from some foreign place 
> every now and then.  
> 
> John Humphries
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:38 AM, ANDREW ARNOLD <andyarno...@mac.com 
> <mailto:andyarno...@mac.com>> wrote:
> I own a financial services firm and we would never act on wiring or 
> distribution instructions contained in an email, from a client, realtor, 
> bank, etc. We would always pick up the phone and call our client. We usually 
> recognize their voices. If we didn’t, we would use several forms of verifying 
> their ID, including asking questions no cyber criminal would know, “When is 
> your anniversary?”, “What year did we agree upon in your financial plan as a 
> retirement date?”, “Tell me again where you said your son was doing his 
> internship?”, “what year did we meet, and who referred you to me?”
> 
> We repeat any  instructions provided to us, asking our client to carefully 
> verify the routing numbers and banking info. They must sign a Letter of 
> Authorization, and their signature is compared to those on file previously.
> 
> This stuff is very scary, we are paranoid about it, We are seeing increased 
> attempts at accessing Non Public Info (NPI) by cybercriminals. Frankly, we 
> would never trust an email, no matter how secure it appears to be, no matter 
> what form of encryption was used. I don’t care if the email comes from the 
> Pope, or Greater Deity,  we are never going to send funds without proper 
> vetting. When it comes to distributing funds, multiple levels of verification 
> are necessary, and picking up the phone and dialing a real person is the best 
> form of analog verification.
> 
> You can be proactive on your end too. Never just email instructions to a 
> financial institu

[MacGroup] Blind Trust In Email Could Cost You Your Home

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I own a financial services firm and we would never act on wiring or 
distribution instructions contained in an email, from a client, realtor, bank, 
etc. We would always pick up the phone and call our client. We usually 
recognize their voices. If we didn’t, we would use several forms of verifying 
their ID, including asking questions no cyber criminal would know, “When is 
your anniversary?”, “What year did we agree upon in your financial plan as a 
retirement date?”, “Tell me again where you said your son was doing his 
internship?”, “what year did we meet, and who referred you to me?”

We repeat any  instructions provided to us, asking our client to carefully 
verify the routing numbers and banking info. They must sign a Letter of 
Authorization, and their signature is compared to those on file previously.

This stuff is very scary, we are paranoid about it, We are seeing increased 
attempts at accessing Non Public Info (NPI) by cybercriminals. Frankly, we 
would never trust an email, no matter how secure it appears to be, no matter 
what form of encryption was used. I don’t care if the email comes from the 
Pope, or Greater Deity,  we are never going to send funds without proper 
vetting. When it comes to distributing funds, multiple levels of verification 
are necessary, and picking up the phone and dialing a real person is the best 
form of analog verification.

You can be proactive on your end too. Never just email instructions to a 
financial institution. Take them in personally, mail them, call (and then use 
email to back up those other methods), but DON’T RELY ON EMAIL to conduct 
sensitive financial transactions…. Slow down, never be in a hurry, and double 
check and double verify everything!

Andy


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[MacGroup] New Laptop

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I got the first round of LG 5K monitors, and they were unstable. Apparently LG 
didn’t put some type of shielding in them that reduces RF interference. The 
Applestore was great, though. They met me at the curb with a cart, took them 
back and gave me the first of the in-store stock that came in about 7-10 days 
later. It works great now, and the 5k screen is every bit as nice as the MBP 
screen. It’s huge, bright and so clear I can’t even look at a non-retina 
display any longer!


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> Date: April 22, 2017 at 2:25:13 PM EDT
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> I use the USB-C to HDMI Samsung Monitor.  The LG monitors have such bad 
> reviews I didn't trust going that route.  The Apple adapter works great, 
> picture quality is good but not near an Apple Monitor, I'm glad to hear Apple 
> is bringing out a new Monitor with the updated Pro.   
> 
> There are a lot of connections from the MacBook Pro, audio to Bose Speakers, 
> one for the HDMI, one for power, one for Ethernet, one for a Yeti Pro Mic so 
> I can easily use Siri for searches.   
> 
> As soon as I plug in the laptop the Apple Watch unlocks it before I walk 
> around the deskthe laptop sits vertically upright hidden behind the 
> monitor.   
> 
> I've read about the "clicking" noise coming from some of the MacBook Pro's, 
> mine did the same thing until I turned it over in the vertical position, now 
> quiet.   
> 
> I think it's great, never gets hot, only mildly warm at its most.  
> 
> John
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:21 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD <andyarno...@mac.com 
> <mailto:andyarno...@mac.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lee,
>> 
>> I agree with everything you say here…
>> 
>> - The main reason I liked the “breathing” light was to make sure the machine 
>> was asleep before I put it in my leather briefcase. Usually when I leave the 
>> office, I’ve worked right up to the last minute and am in danger of leaving 
>> a child standing out in the carpool line alone after everyone else has been 
>> picked up. Years ago I put a PB3400 into a bag without making sure it was 
>> asleep. It wasn’t, and luckily I discovered it before disaster struck. It 
>> was hot enough to literally fry eggs, and the papers in my briefcase could 
>> have combusted. So now I have to hold my MBP 15” up to my ear to wait for 
>> the fan to stop running before I put it away. I would like to be able to 
>> just look at it from across the room to verify it has entered sleep mode.
>> 
>> - You will be fine with the 512 SSD. 5 months in, I still have 672GB free on 
>> my 1TB drive, and I have a lot of stuff in my digital life! Wish I had saved 
>> the $400
>> 
>> - Maybe I will wish for more RAM later on, but right now I can only think of 
>> one time where I was running out
>> 
>> - I used Migration Assistant one time years ago. It did an OK job, but I 
>> decided to do it all by hand after that. Getting a new machine is a great 
>> time to leave behind all the old cruft that accumulates. I only move over 
>> what I need, and I keep my user account on the old machine for a long time 
>> (I usually send the old one down the line into the family unit anyway, I 
>> tend not to sell them). That way I can always go and recover an old file or 
>> preference file that I forgot to move. Rarely happens. I usually hook the 
>> machines together via wire (target disk mode or ethernet) to move the files 
>> over so it can be done quickly.
>> 
>> - I bought lots of dongles too, and have used them a few times, but have not 
>> tried hooking to an external projector yet. I am thinking of purchasing the 
>> Belkin break safe cable and connec

[MacGroup] New Laptop

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

Hi Lee,

I agree with everything you say here…

- The main reason I liked the “breathing” light was to make sure the machine 
was asleep before I put it in my leather briefcase. Usually when I leave the 
office, I’ve worked right up to the last minute and am in danger of leaving a 
child standing out in the carpool line alone after everyone else has been 
picked up. Years ago I put a PB3400 into a bag without making sure it was 
asleep. It wasn’t, and luckily I discovered it before disaster struck. It was 
hot enough to literally fry eggs, and the papers in my briefcase could have 
combusted. So now I have to hold my MBP 15” up to my ear to wait for the fan to 
stop running before I put it away. I would like to be able to just look at it 
from across the room to verify it has entered sleep mode.

- You will be fine with the 512 SSD. 5 months in, I still have 672GB free on my 
1TB drive, and I have a lot of stuff in my digital life! Wish I had saved the 
$400

- Maybe I will wish for more RAM later on, but right now I can only think of 
one time where I was running out

- I used Migration Assistant one time years ago. It did an OK job, but I 
decided to do it all by hand after that. Getting a new machine is a great time 
to leave behind all the old cruft that accumulates. I only move over what I 
need, and I keep my user account on the old machine for a long time (I usually 
send the old one down the line into the family unit anyway, I tend not to sell 
them). That way I can always go and recover an old file or preference file that 
I forgot to move. Rarely happens. I usually hook the machines together via wire 
(target disk mode or ethernet) to move the files over so it can be done quickly.

- I bought lots of dongles too, and have used them a few times, but have not 
tried hooking to an external projector yet. I am thinking of purchasing the 
Belkin break safe cable and connector. I’ve only had one near miss, but it was 
enough to make me interested. With three teen boys and a dog running around, I 
think this might be a good father’s day present:

https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable

All in all, I really like the new MBP. I’m a heavy user, it’s on from about 7 
am to approaching midnight every day, with a few breaks for meals and time 
assisting kids with homework, so I put it through the paces. It’s a pleasure to 
use and I can overlook a few of the negatives we’ve discussed here. None are 
deal killers at all. I think you made the right decision and will enjoy using 
your new toy!

Andy

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> From: Lee Larson 
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> Date: April 22, 2017 at 11:52:40 AM EDT
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> 
> Several weeks ago I posted some thoughts on my plans to buy a new laptop. At 
> the time I was pretty down on the new MacBook Pros for a number of reasons. 
> Since then I’ve tried many of the alternatives, visiting Fry’s in 
> Indianapolis and the Micro Center in Cincinnati to actually lay my sweaty 
> hands on a bunch of them. I even went so far as to bring along a Flash drive 
> containing an Ubuntu Linux boot image so I didn’t have to try them with 
> Windows.
> 
> I narrowed the field down to a high-end Asus ZenBook and a MacBook Pro.
> 
> I ended up with the MacBook Pro, mostly because I know it runs the software I 
> need without any fuss and because the touchpad software on the ZenBook sucks 
> under both Linux and Windows. (Palm recognition is really flakey.)
> 
> To be specific, I bought a 13-inch, i7, MacBook Pro with 16 GB of RAM, Touch 
> Bar and a 512 GB SSD. It was a little more expensive, but I found a good deal 
> via an open-box sale. It has the standard one-year Apple warranty and came 
> with the additional two years of AppleCare coverage.
> 
> After a week of use, here’s my take on the criticisms I had
> 
>> • They no longer have the MagSafe power connection. This has saved my 
>> machine many times.
> 
> I still think this is a dumb decision by Apple.
> 
>> • The “breathing” light on the front is no longer there. Without it, it’s 
>> hard to tell if the machine is really asleep when the lid is closed. Also, 
>> the 

Re: [MacGroup] Replacement of MacBook Pro

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

Hi John,

Glad you liked it, I’ve been thinking about the pros and cons for a long time.

I’ve never had trouble with the trackpad accidentally getting in the way and 
causing problems. I’m not sure if it’s how I hold my hands or not. I thought I 
read there is some kind of “rejection” software to ignore accidental palm bumps 
while typing, but maybe I’m wrong. You might fiddle with the keyboard and 
trackpad preferences to see if there is something there to make it less 
sensitive.

Mine runs a bit hot because of all the stuff I have running on it like the 
background daemons for backup, virus and a lot more. Maybe that’s why I have 
some heat expansion pops. Again, not a deal killer, just a little unsettling as 
I’ve never had a MBP with that behavior.

Andy
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> Date: March 16, 2017 at 7:20:50 PM EDT
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> Andrew,
> 
> GREAT writeup, your detail is so thorough, thanks so much.
> 
> With my habit of laying my hands on the laptop I just can’t get used to the 
> huge trackpad…I sent a half dozen text to my daughter a few min. ago when I 
> was trying to send one, I kept sending bits and pieces, hope I get used to it.
> 
> One thing I noticed, when at the office I place the laptop in a vertical 
> stand behind the monitor…after a few hours I would get a popping noise, it 
> went away when I got out of the update from Microsoft so I thought that was 
> the problem…then a couple days later it started it again.  It’s not hot but I 
> had it upside down in order to reach the cabling….
> 
> I turned it nightside up and have never had it again…with days of usage the 
> metallic clicking noise has never returned….most likely not the same thing 
> you are hearing but mine never gets warm enough to cause any metal expansion, 
> I mean this is one cool running laptop.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:39 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD <andyarno...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:andyarno...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I went ahead and bought the new 2016 15” MBP with touchbar. Here are my 
>> observations:
>> 
>> While I use it for business, as Lee stated, my demands on it are varied. For 
>> example, I’m also a musician and use Apple’s Logic recording software, which 
>> is very complex and can be demanding on CPU cycles.
>> 
>> - The MBP is a very nicely constructed unit with only two minor issues for 
>> me: there are some small and occasional “pinging” sounds as it warms up, as 
>> if the metal is expanding.It’s a little disconcerting, and not up to Apple 
>> standards, but it is not harmful in any way.  The second is in how the edges 
>> are cut around the air intake ports along 3 sides on the bottom. They are 
>> not bevelled, so the unit feels sharp on fleshy skin as you pick it up 
>> quickly or especially when putting it into a carry bag. Not huge issues, but 
>> I think the designers missed these details. Compared to previous models, 
>> these are certainly oversights
>> 
>> - It is very thin and light. When I pick up a 2010 model in comparison, it 
>> is remarkable how far the technology has come in terms of weight, power and 
>> design. Even the 2013 version seems bulky now... It is a pleasure to carry 
>> around and use, and it draws me to using it, increasing my productivity!!
>> 
>> - I don’t mind carrying the small dongle I bought to plug into USB-A and 
>> Displayport. I always had to carry dongles for various projector hookups 
>> anyway. If I were afraid I might leave it behind, I would put a reminder in 
>> the reminder app to ping me to take it, or a geo-fence reminder to ping my 
>> Applewatch or iphone to remind me as I l

Re: [MacGroup] Replacement of MacBook Pro

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I went ahead and bought the new 2016 15” MBP with touchbar. Here are my 
observations:

While I use it for business, as Lee stated, my demands on it are varied. For 
example, I’m also a musician and use Apple’s Logic recording software, which is 
very complex and can be demanding on CPU cycles.

- The MBP is a very nicely constructed unit with only two minor issues for me: 
there are some small and occasional “pinging” sounds as it warms up, as if the 
metal is expanding.It’s a little disconcerting, and not up to Apple standards, 
but it is not harmful in any way.  The second is in how the edges are cut 
around the air intake ports along 3 sides on the bottom. They are not bevelled, 
so the unit feels sharp on fleshy skin as you pick it up quickly or especially 
when putting it into a carry bag. Not huge issues, but I think the designers 
missed these details. Compared to previous models, these are certainly 
oversights

- It is very thin and light. When I pick up a 2010 model in comparison, it is 
remarkable how far the technology has come in terms of weight, power and 
design. Even the 2013 version seems bulky now... It is a pleasure to carry 
around and use, and it draws me to using it, increasing my productivity!!

- I don’t mind carrying the small dongle I bought to plug into USB-A and 
Displayport. I always had to carry dongles for various projector hookups 
anyway. If I were afraid I might leave it behind, I would put a reminder in the 
reminder app to ping me to take it, or a geo-fence reminder to ping my 
Applewatch or iphone to remind me as I leave the location.

- Griffin makes a magnetic breakaway dongle to approximate the MagSafe power 
cable function. I’ll probably buy one soon, although I have had no plug 
disasters yet. I will note it IS nice to be able to charge on either side as 2 
ports are available on the right and left side.

- I bought one of the 27” LG monitors. It is so nice to have all of your 
peripherals plugged into the monitor and be able to attach everything and 
receive power via one cable when “docking” with the monitor! The display 
quality is unbelievable. I can’t even look at an older display any longer. I’m 
spoiled!

- The Touchbar has been growing on me. At first it seemed more novelty. As Apps 
begin taking advantage of it, I can see how it will be useful. For a simple 
example, the built in Apple Calculator App has functions displayed clearly on 
the bar. This makes it much easier than having to hit Shift = to get to “plus", 
for example… Complex apps like Logic REALLY benefit in speeding up functions, 
and Photos has some really cool shortcuts that make using the app and Touchbar 
a pleasure. 

- The BIG Touchbar feature that I can no longer live without is the fingerprint 
sensor. Logging in without my long, complex PW is now easy. Furthermore, I’m a 
big fan of 1Password. I use a 5 word complex pass phrase for that app, and 
opening it by accurately typing that long PW was a pain. Now, 1PW opens with a 
1 second touch of the fingerprint reader! Nice!

- The battery life  is a mixed bag. When I’m doing web/email/word 
processing/spreadsheets/etc as Lee mentioned, battery life is about what it has 
been on all of my previous MBPs (I’ve been using them all the way back to the 
Mission Impossible version - what was that a Powerbook 1500?)   However, 
something very graphics or CPU intensive means the battery might only last a 
couple of hours. Basically, if the fan is running constantly, it needs to be 
plugged in, but otherwise, the battery is very acceptable.

- I was worried about running out of SSD space on my last MBP 500GB, so I 
upgraded to the 1TB. Now I wish I hadn’t spent the extra $$$. Why? I use Apple 
Photos cloud, and iTunes Match. For $50 per year, I can store my photos (I keep 
good originals backed up separately offsite) and music in the cloud, Sierra has 
new space optimization features and is smart enough to download just what I 
need to keep the SSD space freed up. So I still have 660GB free after upgrading 
to my new MBP. I’ve been watching how much space I use, and it never really 
gets over 400GB, so I have TOO much room to spare at this point!

- I use iStat Menus and keep an eye on my CPU, RAM and SSD space usage (see 
attached). Even with LOTS of Apps open, I never really run out of Ram, and the 
CPU cycles rarely get above halfway. The two big cycle hogs are my virus 
software and Retrospect (backup) both of which I need for compliance reasons. 
So even though the 16GB of Ram, and the SSD are not upgradeable, I never seem 
to come close to running out and can’t imagine it being a problem until I’m 
ready to upgrade again in several years (I usually upgrade between 3-4 year 
time periods, but I’ve gone longer in the past).


- I didn’t like the new keyboard for about 3-4 days, then I got used to it and 
going back to the older keyboard feels squishy to me. I type about 70 wpm, so 
keyboarding is important...

- I was worried about the 

[MacGroup] iCloud password

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I logged into my iCloud account via Safari today and it told me someone near 
Indianapolis was trying to log in at the same time. I took it as the 
geolocation feature was just off its game today. I did not change my PW, and 
haven’t experienced any interruption.

Andy
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> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] iCloud password
> Date: December 28, 2016 at 8:36:49 PM EST
> To: LCS ListServ MacGroup 
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> 
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Have you mentioned this to someone at the Apple Store?
> 
> What was the time of your usage and the Philadelphia one?
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> This morning I went to the Apple Store to make a purchase. I used the Apple 
>> Store App to scan the item and make the purchase. I had to enter my Apple 
>> ID. Which I did.
>> 
>> When I returned home about an hour later I get a text message saying someone 
>> in Philadelphia attempted to sign on using my id. I didn’t allow it of 
>> course and proceeded to change my password for iCloud.
>> 
>> Was I hacked in the Apple Store?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Happy New Year everyone.
>> 
>> Harry
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> 
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Have you mentioned this to someone at the Apple Store?
> 
> What was the time of your usage and the Philadelphia one?
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> This morning I went to the Apple Store to make a purchase. I used the Apple 
>> Store App to scan the item and make the purchase. I had to enter my Apple 
>> ID. Which I did.
>> 
>> When I returned home about an hour later I get a text message saying someone 
>> in Philadelphia attempted to sign on using my id. I didn’t allow it of 
>> course and proceeded to change my password for iCloud.
>> 
>> Was I hacked in the Apple Store?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Happy New Year everyone.
>> 
>> Harry
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] iCloud password
> Date: December 28, 2016 at 10:04:25 PM EST
> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and 
> 
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> 
> 
> I did not mention it to the folks in the apple store. I was already at home.
> 
> The philadelphia part happened after i got home. I left the store around 
> 12:15 and was home around 12:30
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> Have you mentioned this to someone at the Apple Store?
>> 
>> What was the time of your usage and the Philadelphia one?
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This morning I went to the Apple Store to make a purchase. I used the Apple 
>>> Store App to scan the item and make the purchase. I had to enter my Apple 
>>> ID. Which I did.
>>> 
>>> When I returned home about an hour later I get a text message saying 
>>> someone in Philadelphia attempted to sign on using my id. I didn’t allow it 
>>> of course and proceeded to change my password for iCloud.
>>> 
>>> Was I hacked in the Apple Store?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year everyone.
>>> 
>>> Harry
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[MacGroup] Sierra

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I came to work this am, and all 6 Macs were auto-updated to 10.12.2   I never 
select the auto-update option, as I like to give other users the chance to find 
the problems, since I can’t afford to have our systems go down. I read 
somewhere in the past Apple has the “ability” to push the updates out in 
critical situations. Did anyone else discover a 10.12.1 to 10.12.2 auto-update 
overnight?

Andy


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> From: Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
> Subject: [MacGroup] Sierra
> Date: December 15, 2016 at 7:27:31 PM EST
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> 
> 
> 
> Should I update to sierra?
> Any downside?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Lee Larson 
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Sierra
> Date: December 15, 2016 at 7:44:10 PM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/15/2016 07:27 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer asked:
>> Should I update to sierra?
>> Any downside?
> The only problem I had was with Logitech Control Center. My Logitech
> mouse buttons didn't work. Logitech has upgraded the Control Center to
> fix the problems, so, if you're using a Logitech mouse, you should
> upgrade the Control Center before installing Sierra.
> 
> L^2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Pen Helm 
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Sierra
> Date: December 15, 2016 at 7:56:14 PM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> 
> 
> My only problem upgrading to Sierra was that all my "On My Mac" mail 
> disappeared.
> (Apparently this was due to a bug in the upgrade to El Capitan.)
> I was able to get it back.
> 
> On 12/15/2016 07:27 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer asked:
>> Should I update to sierra?
>> Any downside?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 78, Issue 30

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

It is named “Install OS X”. So look in your Applications folder, NOT the 
download folder and scroll down to the apps that start with “i”
Also, remember that if you want to keep the installer around, make a copy or 
back it up before you install. Otherwise the installer is deleted after 
installation

Andy


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>   1. Download/install ElCap help, please? (R. D. Preston)
>   2. Re: Download/install ElCap help, please? (John Robinson)
>   3. Re: Download/install ElCap help, please? (R. D. Preston)
>   4. Re: Download/install ElCap help, please? (John Robinson)
>   5. Re: Download/install ElCap help, please? (John Robinson)
> 
> From: "R. D. Preston" 
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 10:20:56 PM EDT
> To: MacGroup topics 
> Subject: [MacGroup] Download/install ElCap help, please…
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I did a d/l of the ElCap upgrade, ran short of time, and didn’t 
> install for lack of time.  Now I return to the AppStore to find 
> the greyed button to say [Downloaded].  Nothing familiar in 
> the Download directory, so where is it to be found?
> 
> I’m a bit stumped for what to do.  Help?
> 
> -russ preston
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I did a d/l of the ElCap upgrade, ran short of time, and didn’t 
> install for lack of time.  Now I return to the AppStore to find 
> the greyed button to say [Downloaded].  Nothing familiar in 
> the Download directory, so where is it to be found?
> 
> I’m a bit stumped for what to do.  Help?
> 
> -russ preston
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: John Robinson 
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 10:26:21 PM EDT
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Download/install ElCap help, please…
> 
> 
> I would check your download folder, it may be in there.  
> 
> John 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:20 PM, R. D. Preston  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I did a d/l of the ElCap upgrade, ran short of time, and didn’t 
>> install for lack of time.  Now I return to the AppStore to find 
>> the greyed button to say [Downloaded].  Nothing familiar in 
>> the Download directory, so where is it to be found?
>> 
>> I’m a bit stumped for what to do.  Help?
>> 
>> -russ preston
>> 
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> I would check your download folder, it may be in there.  
> 
> John 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:20 PM, R. D. Preston  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I did a d/l of the ElCap upgrade, ran short of time, and didn’t 
>> install for lack of time.  Now I return to the AppStore to find 
>> the greyed button to say [Downloaded].  Nothing familiar in 
>> the Download directory, so where is it to be found?
>> 
>> I’m a bit stumped for what to do.  Help?
>> 
>> -russ preston
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> From: "R. D. Preston" 
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 10:28:42 PM EDT
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Download/install ElCap help, please…
> 
> 
> As mentioned, nothing there that’s recognizable.
> -russ
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I would check your download folder, it may be in there.  
>> 
>> John 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:20 PM, R. D. Preston  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I did a d/l of the ElCap upgrade, ran short of time, and didn’t 
>>> install for lack of time.  Now I return to the AppStore to find 
>>> the greyed button to say [Downloaded].  Nothing familiar in 
>>> the Download directory, so where is it to be found?
>>> 
>>> I’m a bit stumped for what to do.  Help?
>>> 
>>> -russ preston
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 74, Issue 4

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

PDFpen and PDFpen Pro can OCR a PDF and let you export or copy and paste the 
text to a new document. www.smilesoftware.com has all the details… good luck!

Andy


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 From: Richard D. Meadows rmead...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MacGroup] Help
 Date: June 14, 2015 at 9:56:12 PM EDT
 To: Group MAC macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 Hello Apple Fellows (as in the college of apple users - NOT gender)  [Must be 
 PC]
 
 I have an 8 page PDF that I really need to convert to an numbers spreadsheet 
 or at least a pages document.  What do you all use to do conversions back and 
 forth?  I know you can export from pages to PDF, but the opposite seems to be 
 a hot costly mess.  I don’t mind spending a little bit of money on a good 
 program but I want to know it will work first.  
 
 So what say you MAC aficionados?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Richard
 
 
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 From: Richard D. Meadows rmead...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MacGroup] Help
 Date: June 14, 2015 at 9:56:24 PM EDT
 To: Group MAC macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 Hello Apple Fellows (as in the college of apple users - NOT gender)  [Must be 
 PC]
 
 I have an 8 page PDF that I really need to convert to an numbers spreadsheet 
 or at least a pages document.  What do you all use to do conversions back and 
 forth?  I know you can export from pages to PDF, but the opposite seems to be 
 a hot costly mess.  I don’t mind spending a little bit of money on a good 
 program but I want to know it will work first.  
 
 So what say you MAC aficionados?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Richard
 
 
 HHgreensmlerlogo.jpg
 
 Richard Meadows
 Co-Founder  Chief Connection Officer
 Berndows Enterprise LLC http://www.berndowsenterprise.com/
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Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 59, Issue 7

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I would look at iBank version 5. I have never looked back after using Quicken 
for over 15 years. I was a beta tester in the latest Quicken junk version. 
Intuiit has treated the Mac as an ugly step child with both Quicken and 
Quickbooks for a long time now. Check out this review of iBank from Macworld:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2097965/ibank-5-review-personal-finance-mac-app-corners-the-market-on-your-money.html




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   1. Quicken News (John Robinson)
   2. SSD Drive (John Robinson)
   3. Re: iMessage Security (Pen Helm)
   4. Re: SSD Drive (Harry Jacobson-Beyer)
   5. Re: SSD Drive (Nora Probasco)
 
 From: John Robinson profilecoven...@me.com
 Subject: [MacGroup] Quicken News
 Date: March 4, 2014 at 12:41:54 PM EST
 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 I needed to convert a Mini server to Snow Leopard.  My disk must be bad for I 
 couldn’t get it to load.  Off to Apple for an install.  
 
 
 Griping to the tech about Bill Campbell making $300.000 on the Apple board 
 and not bringing out a quality version of Quicken since 2007.  Ah Ha, Intuit 
 is bringing out an entire rewrite, this particular tech was ask to be a beta 
 tester so it’s now in Beta and hopefully before long it will go Gold and 
 FINALLY we will have a good product.
 
 This one piece of software has caused me to hold one machine back, I am 
 grateful that they are finally working on the step-child’s update..
 
 Thought some of you might want to know.
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 From: John Robinson profilecoven...@me.com
 Subject: [MacGroup] SSD Drive
 Date: March 4, 2014 at 3:27:18 PM EST
 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 I have a MacMini that must have a hard drive going bad.  I looked on line for 
 instructions how to install, then I watched a video on putting in an SSD 
 drive.
 
 Any suggestions?  Is it hard to replace?  Anybody have a good place to 
 purchase that has reliable quality?
 
 I called MacAuthority and all they have is 128 gb so I'll need to purchase 
 elsewhere.  
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Pen Helm pen-...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [MacGroup] iMessage Security
 Date: March 4, 2014 at 3:31:46 PM EST
 To: macgroup macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Pen Helm pen-...@earthlink.net, Topics related to Apple and 
 Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 The Comodo licence forbids you to send messages that are annoying.  The 
 StartSSL license is too long to read, and forbids harassing but not 
 apparently annoying.  I couldn't find any other free providers.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com
 Subject: Re: [MacGroup] SSD Drive
 Date: March 4, 2014 at 4:26:45 PM EST
 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 I have purchased technology with great success from:
 http://www.newegg.com
 
 However, not recently.
 
 Harry
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2014, at 3:27 PM, John Robinson profilecoven...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have a MacMini that must have a hard drive going bad.  I looked on line 
 for instructions how to install, then I watched a video on putting in an SSD 
 drive.
 
 Any suggestions?  Is it hard to replace?  Anybody have a good place to 
 purchase that has reliable quality?
 
 I called MacAuthority and all they have is 128 gb so I'll need to purchase 
 elsewhere.  
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
 John
 
 
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 From: Nora Probasco nproba...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MacGroup] SSD Drive
 Date: March 4, 2014 at 4:29:19 PM EST
 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
 macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 
 
 I have also had very good luck with Newegg.
 
 Nora
 
 On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 

[MacGroup] G5 Tower

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I have a G5 Tower that I was going to sell to recycler Gazelle for $75...   It 
has Office 2004 and Adobe CS Suite installed. Before they tear it down, I 
wondered if anyone in the group is interested? Re-use has to be better than 
recycling... If interested, just drop me a note... 

2ghz
2 CPU
512 l2 cache
1.5 gb RAM
1 ghz bus

2 Internal Drives
150 gb
280 gb


Andy
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MacGroup: gotomyPC for Macs?

[andrew arnold]

One other question... What does anyone else use to manage a network of Macs?
I can keep my powerbook and desktop up to date easily, but it is much harder
now that I am managing 5-6 more on a network at work. With all the system
patches and application updates, it is becoming unmanageable. Not all the
machines on the network have Internet access, so SUCP is useless. I do have
Versiontracker Pro, but without Internet access, again, those machines
without Internet access are orphaned. Any suggestions?

 On May 9, 2004, at 5:15 PM, andrew arnold a0arno01 at Louisville.edu
 wrote:
 
 I did set the tight setting and tried lower colors. I really didn't
 notice
 any difference in the color resolution on the monitor, but that didn't
 help
 the lag at all. Strange. Has anyone else tried it Mac to Mac??
 
 
 At a client's place I set up VNC Server on a FileMaker server that I
 need to manage occasionally from a box on their LAN. Server is an iMac
 233 running 8.6 (I think) and the client is a Beige G3 333 running 9.1.
 It is not the same as being there, of course, but the lag is
 acceptable. I'm not sure what you need to be doing but it has worked
 great for my needs. Do you have sufficient network? This particular
 setup has 100bT (and a couple hubs) between the two machines in
 question.
 
 I, too, didn't notice a LOT of difference between the pixel depth
 settings, but I left them lower anyway.
 
 I just checked and the Beta 2 products are installed so I guess I can't
 claim experience with the Beta 3 versions. Got the Beta 3--just haven't
 installed them I guess. Even I know enough to leave well enough alone.
 BTW, no crashes with it whatsoever.
 
 I haven't tried it over broadband. That may make a big difference.
 
 j.
 
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 jfletch at newmediaconstco.com
 
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  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

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MacGroup: gotomyPC for Macs?

[andrew arnold]

It is usable, but frustrating. It seems especially slow when repositioning
open windows in the Finder. I too am on a 100bT network and have not tried
any broadband. I am tempted to try Apple's Remote desktop, but it appears to
only work over a LAN. That would be fine for now, but I may not want to be
limited to a LAN in the future.

A

 On May 9, 2004, at 5:15 PM, andrew arnold a0arno01 at Louisville.edu
 wrote:
 
 I did set the tight setting and tried lower colors. I really didn't
 notice
 any difference in the color resolution on the monitor, but that didn't
 help
 the lag at all. Strange. Has anyone else tried it Mac to Mac??
 
 
 At a client's place I set up VNC Server on a FileMaker server that I
 need to manage occasionally from a box on their LAN. Server is an iMac
 233 running 8.6 (I think) and the client is a Beige G3 333 running 9.1.
 It is not the same as being there, of course, but the lag is
 acceptable. I'm not sure what you need to be doing but it has worked
 great for my needs. Do you have sufficient network? This particular
 setup has 100bT (and a couple hubs) between the two machines in
 question.
 
 I, too, didn't notice a LOT of difference between the pixel depth
 settings, but I left them lower anyway.
 
 I just checked and the Beta 2 products are installed so I guess I can't
 claim experience with the Beta 3 versions. Got the Beta 3--just haven't
 installed them I guess. Even I know enough to leave well enough alone.
 BTW, no crashes with it whatsoever.
 
 I haven't tried it over broadband. That may make a big difference.
 
 j.
 
 --
 Jonathan Fletcher
 jfletch at newmediaconstco.com
 
 NewMedia Construction Company
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
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  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: gotomyPC for Macs?

[andrew arnold]

I read about TB2, but it appears you must have a FULL copy on each
machine This means I would have to invest $700-$800 to manage my small
network. I don't think I can justify that in our budget, since my shoe
leather is thought to be considerably cheaper! :-)

 On May 10, 2004, at 11:42 PM, andrew arnold complained:
 
 It is usable, but frustrating. It seems especially slow when
 repositioning
 open windows in the Finder. I too am on a 100bT network and have not
 tried
 any broadband. I am tempted to try Apple's Remote desktop, but it
 appears to
 only work over a LAN. That would be fine for now, but I may not want
 to be
 limited to a LAN in the future.
 
 Take a good look at Timbuktu. I used to use it way back in the Mac OS 9
 days, and it was usable over a telephone line. Some things are never
 going to get fast. Don't expect to play first-person shooters remotely.
 
 
 
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  2.

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MacGroup: white noise over iMic

[andrew arnold]

Maybe this is too simple, I attached the ground wire from the turntable to
the screw that holds the A/C plate onto the outlet. All hum went away...

 Hey all you iMic users,
 
 OK, I fiddled around with the Turntable to iMic to USB hub recording
 method, again, and it seems that the problem may not be a grounding
 problem. 
 If I take the input from the turntable out of the iMic, I get the 60Hz
 buzz, unless I (effectively) ground the iMic by holding it in my hand.
 When the grounded by hand I get white noise (noise across the whole
 spectrum).
 
 If I plug in the input from the turntable, I get the same white noise as
 I do w/o the turntable.
 
 What am I supposed to do to not get this humongous amount of noise?
 
 I tried grounding the ground wire from the turntable to other grounds,
 i.e. to the ground in the outlet strip to which the USB hub is connected,
 to the case of the power supply of the computer, to the ground screw on a
 non-turntable-friendly stereo plugged into the same powerstrip as the USB
 hub, and to the antenna ground on the same stereo.
 
 Somehow I have an idea that there is some basic concept I am missing.
 
 Bill
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
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Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

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Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: PDF question

[andrew arnold]

Are you using a lot of drop shadows and other translucent graphics? These
can really make a PDF crash and burn on other machines.

I usually have to use trial and error, deleting certain elements, creating a
new PDF, and narrowing that down until I find an element that is causing the
problem.

There is also a whole PDF troubleshooting section on Adobe's website. I
can't find the URL right now, but go and search for PDF troubleshooting for
more suggestions.

 I create pdf's by printing my Appleworks document and instead of hitting
 the print button I save the document as a pdf.
 
 Several people, to whom I've sent these pdf's  via email, and who have
 PC'S can open them but not print them. If I send them to my wife's PC,
 she has no problem printing them.
 
 One person, can open the pdf's but the photos do not show up and he
 cannot print them. One person is not using acrobat reader to open them
 but another is. And neither can print them.
 
 Any suggestions how to make my pdf's PC friendly?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Harry
 
 
 
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Andy
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  2.

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MacGroup: gotomyPC for Macs?

[andrew arnold]

I did set the tight setting and tried lower colors. I really didn't notice
any difference in the color resolution on the monitor, but that didn't help
the lag at all. Strange. Has anyone else tried it Mac to Mac??

 On May 8, 2004, at 3:20 PM, andrew arnold wrote:
 
 I tried Chicken of the VNC (installed the OSXvnc server on the other
 computer). I can make the software work, but there is a lot of lag on a
 100bT wired network. Machines are both G4s, 450mhz and 800mhz. Should
 there
 be an annoying amount of lag, or do I just need to keep playing with
 the
 settings?
 
 I haven't used it Mac2Mac, but I have used it with Linux and Windows
 servers. My experience is that it was pretty fast, if I set the server
 to use the tight protocol and few colors. It's even quite usable using
 the linux box in my office as the server and my Mac at home as the
 client over the cable connection. (I must admit I've not done so since
 X.3.3 came along, since I usually connect with X11 instead.)
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
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Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

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Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: gotomyPC for Macs?

[andrew arnold]

I tried Chicken of the VNC (installed the OSXvnc server on the other
computer). I can make the software work, but there is a lot of lag on a
100bT wired network. Machines are both G4s, 450mhz and 800mhz. Should there
be an annoying amount of lag, or do I just need to keep playing with the
settings?

 On May 5, 2004, at 1:11 AM, Stephen Ellis wrote:
 
 Is there a product like GoToMyPC for Macs??
 
 There are several. They all differ slightly in their capabilities.
 
 The oldest of the bunch is Timbuktu (www.netopia.com). It will allow
 Macs and Windows machines to drive each other remotely.
 
 Apple sells a product called Apple Remote Desktop that lets you drive a
 Mac from another Mac.
 
 Mactopia (www.mactopia.com) sells a Mac client for the Windows remote
 desktop server from Microsoft.
 
 Finally, there are a whole bunch of freeware VNC clients and servers
 out there which allow desktop sharing. Go to versiontracker.com and
 search on VNC to get a list. I've used Chicken of the VNC to talk to
 Windows machines, and it works pretty well, although a slow network
 connection can make it maddening.
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
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Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: USB socket in PB trouble

[andrew arnold]

My partner had the same good experience with a bad USB port, just the same
as you, Marta. He called, the box arrived on a Tue, he sent it right back
while the UPS person waited, and it was back at the office on Thursday,
fixed.

 On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Marta Edie typed:
 
 Thanks, Brian, I have a hub on my iMac, because I have so many
 jugglers hanging on, but here i am speaking about the two built-in
 sockets of the powerbook, one of which isn't working anymore since I
 woke the computer up this morning. It would be nice if one could fix
 it inside the PB. Maybe Ward can have his say in here, I do have the
 protection plan from Apple, but of course most things that go wrong
 are never covered.
 
 If your computer is covered by AppleCare and the USB port quit due to a
 hardware failure, then it's probably covered. I've been very impressed
 by the speed of AppleCare. We've used it twice on my wife's iBook--once
 for a flakey power supply and then for a screen problem--and the
 turnaround was very fast. When we shipped the machine in for the screen
 problem, it was picked up on Monday afternoon and was back by Thursday
 morning.
 
 
 
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  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: Thesaurus

[andrew arnold]

There is a program called Grammarian. I used to use it under OS9 and I think
you could get other languages for it. Casady  Greene used to publish it but
that company folded. I thought I read that someone else picked up the
program from them. Here is what I found on a google search:


http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/grammarianprox.html

About Grammarian PRO X
Grammarian PRO X is an arsenal of professional writing tools to combat those
embarrassing writing errors that everyone tends to make, a universal
interactive spelling checking, grammar checking, dictionary, autocorrect,
and autotype tool that works with virtually every program on your computer.

What?s in Grammarian PRO X:
- Universal spelling, grammar, dictionary, autocorrect, and autotype in
every Mac OS X application.
- Universal interactive (check-as-you-type) with auto-show spelling and
grammar and universal batch spelling and grammar checking.
- Spell checking uses thematics technology together with the grammar parse
engine for error checking and suggestions. Over 220,000 words internal
metaphonic spelling dictionary plus over 400,000 external spelling
dictionary words, checks homophone spelling and uses phonetic or typographic
suggestions. Simultaneous multilingual spell checking with additional free
language dictionaries.
- Many more features.

What?s New in this Version
- New: Dynamic ?Check All Spelling...? pencil menu item. Holding the option
key down changes the ?Check All...? menu item to ?Check All Spelling...?.
- New: Panther System Input Menu item functionality as well as the
Grammarian application pencil menu.
- New: Optimization speedup of error check selection replacement,
interactive typing, AutoCorrect, and AutoType.
- Many more enhancements.





 I would like to install a German Thesaurus ( Synonym W?rterbuch) so
 that I could look up words in the Sherlock. Does anybody know of such a
 program or where I might be able to find it in free or shareware? Thus
 far I googled up only books. I have enough of them. I am sure in the
 German iMacs the system offers the German equivalent of Sherlock.
 Marta
  Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
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Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams




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MacGroup: Backup suggestions?

[andrew arnold]

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't mess with filevault, but our company is
insisting that all data be encrypted, especially on laptops. If a laptop is
lost or stolen, there will be an interview with the CIS dept. to determine
if encryption was used. I have no other choice, especially if I want to keep
Macs within our team.

I might be interested in speaking with you off-list, I think your suggestion
to figure out the file size first is a good one. Some users do have their
own iPhoto and iTunes files on their machines. This could be a big problem.
However, what if they simply left their iTunes and iPhoto folders another
place on the HD and simply put an alias of them into their Home folder? I am
not worried about backing up and encrypting those files. Does anyone know if
there is a problem with this approach?

A

 Andy,
 
 A couple of things: First you need to examine why you need File Vault.
 It is scary technology to me because it ties up your whole user folder
 into one encrypted archive, that, in the event of any kind of
 corruption, would make very necessary that backup you had better have
 done very recently.
 
 Also, there are several applications that I have heard of that don't
 play well or at all with FileVault enabled.
 
 You're right about the fact that it will make larger backups necessary
 every night. Big time. Everybody's whole user folder, every night. The
 only solution to that is to get a large, fast backup. That means
 dumping any thought of USB as a viable solution. I'd suggest a FireWire
 DAT, AIT or DLT drive. Plan on $800-$2000 for the drive. Your media
 costs are going to be higher, too: 40? to $1.00/GB for the various
 tapes that hold 20-40GB.
 
 Another option is an external DVD drive. Drive, media costs and maximum
 capacity lower.
 
 The first thing you do is find out how much space you will need on a
 nightly basis and choose a medium that will work well for you. With
 tape you should be able to get a whole normal backup and several
 incremental backups on one tape. With DVD you are probably going to
 want to use one disk per night. Remember that FileVault, as you
 mentioned, sort of messes up the concept of nightly incrementals. Man,
 I HOPE you don't have any heavy iApps (iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, etc.)
 users on your network.
 
 You can get a Sonnet Harmoni for the iMac that will add a faster
 processor and a FW port for about $250. For less than $150 you can get
 a Beige G3 from MegaMacs.com and add a FW card for less than $100.
 
 YMMV
 
 I have set up several clients with DAT, AIT and CD backups solutions.
 Feel free to ask more questions, on- or off-list.
 
 jonathan
 
 
 
 On Feb 6, 2004, at 5:15 PM, macgroup-digest wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:55:51 -0500
 From: andrew arnold a0arno01 at Louisville.edu
 Subject: MacGroup: Backup suggestions?
 
 I have an iMac on a network that serves as our server. It is a 350mhz
 model with usb and ethernet, no firewire. I have been backing up using
 a
 CD-RW burner and Retrospect on the iMac. I know many of you use
 Retrospect.
 
 I am required at work to begin using file vault on all the machines
 (6). I
 have read that this will increase the size and time of backups
 dramatically,
 because the whole user folder must be backed up when there is even a
 small
 incremental change to one of the files.
 
 So my question is this: Is there a USB-DVD burner or USB tape backup
 drive
 that would be a better option than a CD-RW? Or any other bright
 suggestions???
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 --
 Jonathan Fletcher
 jfletch at newmediaconstco.com
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams




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| be February 24. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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MacGroup: Backup suggestions?

[andrew arnold]

I have an iMac on a network that serves as our server. It is a 350mhz
model with usb and ethernet, no firewire. I have been backing up using a
CD-RW burner and Retrospect on the iMac. I know many of you use Retrospect.

I am required at work to begin using file vault on all the machines (6). I
have read that this will increase the size and time of backups dramatically,
because the whole user folder must be backed up when there is even a small
incremental change to one of the files.

So my question is this: Is there a USB-DVD burner or USB tape backup drive
that would be a better option than a CD-RW? Or any other bright
suggestions???

Thanks


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
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dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries

[andrew arnold]

So the only fix is to send it in for repair?

 This is due to the video cable getting a short in it.
 The video cable form the mother board runs up to the LCD thru the hinge on
 the left side of the
 screen hinge. The back light cable runs thru the left hinge.
 Both problems are common to iBooks.
 There are people working on a class action suit on the cable problem.
 I repaired an iBook with the backlight problem so I know it well.:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: andrew arnold [mailto:a0arno01 at Louisville.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:50 PM
 To: macusergroup
 Subject: Re: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 I have a friend who experiences some kind of shorting behavior in that his
 iBook adaptor has to be jiggled where it makes the connection at the iBook
 to keep the orange/green charging light on.
 
 Also, he started up today and a series of lines started cascading down the
 screen. I tried resetting the parameter ram and could get it to start
 normally, then the lines started again. Then the screen goes dark. Any
 suggestions, or is it time to take it in to see Ward?
 
 Thanks
 
 Andy
 
 Rex, I am being carefull how I use mine.:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rex Baldazo [mailto:Rex.Baldazo at cnet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:26 AM
 To: 'macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu'
 Subject: RE: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 I'll second that--had the same issue with my iBook AC Adapter.  I'm not
 sure
 the replacement will last any longer--it uses the same basic plug though
 it
 seems to be a bit sturdier plastic on this version of the adapter.
 
 --- Rex Baldazo
 --- Senior Editor
 --- Builder.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 [mailto:owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:22 AM
 To: 'macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu'
 Subject: RE: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 Henri, there is a problem with the new AC power adapter. The strain relief
 at the plug breaks loose with use. My daughter's iBook Ac adapter did this
 had to buy her a new one for her
 birthday.:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard at generationjava.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:35 AM
 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: Re: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 
 Okay, guilty of not checking things out fully before panicking :)
 
 I've had this before. The new white-plug power lead seems to sometimes
 lose
 the connection. I have to re-seat the power cord in the power lead and
 magically the power comes back.
 
 With my magic 1 hour battery, it doesn't take long for a lack of mains
 power
 to empty the machine of power. So not only do I have a dying battery, but
 I
 have a power cable I can't fully trust.
 
 *prepares to pony up cash soon*
 
 Hen
 
 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Henri Yandell wrote:
 
 
 My previous email was strangely prophetic. Woke up this morning to
 find that the powerbook battery indicator flashes on the 1 light and
 that the power cable no longer lights up.
 
 Most problematically, the laptop didn't unsleep and I ended up taking
 the battery out to force it to power off. However now it does not
 power on at all, and still no recharging light on the power cable.
 
 Is this what a dead battery looks like? Should a powerbook run without
 a battery but with mains power attached?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Hen
 
 On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Lee Larson wrote:
 
 On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
 
 I'm wondering what I could have done to make the battery last
 longer. Whenever in reach of a socket [and without a need to power
 up the battery], should I have been using my laptop without a
 battery?
 
 The batteries in most laptops have a finite life, and their clocks
 start ticking as soon as they leave the assembly line. They die
 after a few years, and the only cure is replacement. You can try
 things like resetting the power manager and open firmware.
 
 Here are a couple of Apple's tech pages that you might find useful.
 
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42642
 
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
 
 
 
 
 
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MacGroup: LaserJet 5 printer

[andrew arnold]

I have a 5M on the network at work that works fine. Also have an HP 4100 at
home on the network with the Jetdirect server. After installing the drivers,
it works fine. Come to think of it, Panther has all the current drivers for
HP printers, I believe. Don't know why just the 5 version wouldn't work...
Did you check all of your network settings?

 I recently bought off eBay a LaserJet 5 printer that has a JetDirect
 J2550 network connector in it. I am trying to get it to work on a Mac
 network, but so far have not had success. I have downloaded and
 installed drivers from the HP website. In OS 9 the printer does not
 appear in the Chooser's list of printers when the LaserWriter 8 driver
 is chosen. In OS X it is not found by the Printer Setup Utility when I
 try to add a printer.
 
 On the front of the printer it says just LaserJet 5, so I presume
 that means it is not the 5M model that was specifically designed to
 work with Macs. If that is the case would it then absolutely not be
 usable on a Mac network -- or are there some tricks I need to try to
 get it to work.
 
 I guess I'm hoping that someone out there has a LaserJet 5 working with
 Macs and can help me configure it. Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
 Dan Crutcher
 
 
 
 
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 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries

[andrew arnold]

I have a friend who experiences some kind of shorting behavior in that his
iBook adaptor has to be jiggled where it makes the connection at the iBook
to keep the orange/green charging light on.

Also, he started up today and a series of lines started cascading down the
screen. I tried resetting the parameter ram and could get it to start
normally, then the lines started again. Then the screen goes dark. Any
suggestions, or is it time to take it in to see Ward?

Thanks

Andy

 Rex, I am being carefull how I use mine.:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rex Baldazo [mailto:Rex.Baldazo at cnet.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:26 AM
 To: 'macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu'
 Subject: RE: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 I'll second that--had the same issue with my iBook AC Adapter.  I'm not sure
 the replacement will last any longer--it uses the same basic plug though it
 seems to be a bit sturdier plastic on this version of the adapter.
 
 --- Rex Baldazo
 --- Senior Editor
 --- Builder.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 [mailto:owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:22 AM
 To: 'macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu'
 Subject: RE: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 Henri, there is a problem with the new AC power adapter. The strain relief
 at the plug breaks loose with use. My daughter's iBook Ac adapter did this
 had to buy her a new one for her
 birthday.:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard at generationjava.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:35 AM
 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: Re: dead laptop Was: MacGroup: laptop batteries
 
 
 
 Okay, guilty of not checking things out fully before panicking :)
 
 I've had this before. The new white-plug power lead seems to sometimes lose
 the connection. I have to re-seat the power cord in the power lead and
 magically the power comes back.
 
 With my magic 1 hour battery, it doesn't take long for a lack of mains power
 to empty the machine of power. So not only do I have a dying battery, but I
 have a power cable I can't fully trust.
 
 *prepares to pony up cash soon*
 
 Hen
 
 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Henri Yandell wrote:
 
 
 My previous email was strangely prophetic. Woke up this morning to
 find that the powerbook battery indicator flashes on the 1 light and
 that the power cable no longer lights up.
 
 Most problematically, the laptop didn't unsleep and I ended up taking
 the battery out to force it to power off. However now it does not
 power on at all, and still no recharging light on the power cable.
 
 Is this what a dead battery looks like? Should a powerbook run without
 a battery but with mains power attached?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Hen
 
 On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Lee Larson wrote:
 
 On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
 
 I'm wondering what I could have done to make the battery last
 longer. Whenever in reach of a socket [and without a need to power
 up the battery], should I have been using my laptop without a
 battery?
 
 The batteries in most laptops have a finite life, and their clocks
 start ticking as soon as they leave the assembly line. They die
 after a few years, and the only cure is replacement. You can try
 things like resetting the power manager and open firmware.
 
 Here are a couple of Apple's tech pages that you might find useful.
 
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42642
 
 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
 
 
 
 
 
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  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have 

MacGroup: logitech mouse

[andrew arnold]

Yes, I know what you mean about tech support. It is rather like the IRS,
sometimes you get someone good, then there are the rest of the times...

My Logitech mouse CAME with 2 AA size RECHARGEABLE Nickel Metal Hydride
Batteries and a rechargeable cradle. I always thought that with normal use,
these batteries would last a few years, not the 4 or so months that someone
mentioned earlier...

 Hi Andy, I spoke with a lady at Logitech , and they actually don't
 recommend rechargeable batteries, they do prefer the alkaline ones. So
 she said. But I am sure I shall try  again and get a second opinion. I
 have run into so many people at tech support  who don't know what they
 are talking about, but acting as if they did, that I never settle for
 just one answer.
 Martag
 On Tuesday, Jan 13, 2004, at 22:06 America/New_York, andrew arnold
 wrote:
 
 Where do you get new rechargeable batteries for it when they die??
 Thanks, Michael for at least some sort of time frame in which the
 mouse
 will be alive.
 Marta
 On Tuesday, Jan 13, 2004, at 09:38 America/New_York, Michael Robertson
 wrote:
 
 Marta, I have found that the batteries seem to last about 4 to 6
 months, you will know when they need to be replaced when it starts to
 make the cursor act eraticly, jumping around, not responding well to
 the movements of the mouse.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Marta Edie PB mledie at insightbb.com
 Sent: Jan 12, 2004 3:10 PM
 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: Re: MacGroup: logitech mouse
 
 Thanks, Harry and Michael,  I installed it . It works fine, however,
 when I install Panther, it may only do the plain functions, so the
 lady
 said when i called. This mouse will only support up to Jaguar. One
 more
 question : how long  approx.does one of those run on those two
 batteries since there is no device to turn it off when not in use?
 Marta
 On Monday, Jan 12, 2004, at 11:23 US/Eastern, Harry Jacobson-Beyer
 wrote:
 
 I have a Microsoft intellimouse which is cordless and it works just
 fine
 with jaguar. The base station is on my desk cuddled up between an
 external speaker and an Epson printer. The speaker, printer and
 mouse
 work just fine.
 
 Monday, January 12, 200410:04 AMMarta Ediemledie at insightbb.com
 
 a friend gave me a cordless logitech mouse for Christmas. It is
 sort
 of
 bulky with a scroll wheel on top, a switch button and those right
 and
 left clickers which usually only come for PCs. Before installing
 the
 thing I would like to know whether anybody has had experience with
 that
 kind of mouse. The receiver is to be put at least 8 inches away
 from
 electrical devices. My whole desk is full of printers, scanners,
 lamps
 and what have yous. Does that make any difference? Maybe i should
 install it into my PB, which sits by itself unencumbered by
 devices.
 Marta
   Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
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 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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 Marta
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 Marta
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 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
   1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
   2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 
 
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 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew

MacGroup: logitech mouse

[andrew arnold]

Where do you get new rechargeable batteries for it when they die??
 Thanks, Michael for at least some sort of time frame in which the mouse
 will be alive.
 Marta
 On Tuesday, Jan 13, 2004, at 09:38 America/New_York, Michael Robertson
 wrote:
 
 Marta, I have found that the batteries seem to last about 4 to 6
 months, you will know when they need to be replaced when it starts to
 make the cursor act eraticly, jumping around, not responding well to
 the movements of the mouse.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Marta Edie PB mledie at insightbb.com
 Sent: Jan 12, 2004 3:10 PM
 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: Re: MacGroup: logitech mouse
 
 Thanks, Harry and Michael,  I installed it . It works fine, however,
 when I install Panther, it may only do the plain functions, so the lady
 said when i called. This mouse will only support up to Jaguar. One more
 question : how long  approx.does one of those run on those two
 batteries since there is no device to turn it off when not in use?
 Marta
 On Monday, Jan 12, 2004, at 11:23 US/Eastern, Harry Jacobson-Beyer
 wrote:
 
 I have a Microsoft intellimouse which is cordless and it works just
 fine
 with jaguar. The base station is on my desk cuddled up between an
 external speaker and an Epson printer. The speaker, printer and mouse
 work just fine.
 
 Monday, January 12, 200410:04 AMMarta Ediemledie at insightbb.com
 
 a friend gave me a cordless logitech mouse for Christmas. It is sort
 of
 bulky with a scroll wheel on top, a switch button and those right and
 left clickers which usually only come for PCs. Before installing the
 thing I would like to know whether anybody has had experience with
 that
 kind of mouse. The receiver is to be put at least 8 inches away from
 electrical devices. My whole desk is full of printers, scanners,
 lamps
 and what have yous. Does that make any difference? Maybe i should
 install it into my PB, which sits by itself unencumbered by devices.
 Marta
   Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 Marta
 Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 Marta
  Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams




| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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MacGroup: logitech mouse

[andrew arnold]

I also just got one, installed the most recent driver (downloaded from
Logitech website) and went with it. It works fine. The base is off to the
side, but sits right next to the scanner, which is often on. No problems at
all!

 a friend gave me a cordless logitech mouse for Christmas. It is sort of
 bulky with a scroll wheel on top, a switch button and those right and
 left clickers which usually only come for PCs. Before installing the
 thing I would like to know whether anybody has had experience with that
 kind of mouse. The receiver is to be put at least 8 inches away from
 electrical devices. My whole desk is full of printers, scanners, lamps
 and what have yous. Does that make any difference? Maybe i should
 install it into my PB, which sits by itself unencumbered by devices.
 Marta
  Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams




| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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MacGroup: What does this mean?

[andrew arnold]

Do you use a palm pilot?

 I just upgraded to panther and when I log in I get the following error
 message:
 
 
 
 The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of a
 shared library error: 8Transport MonitorTransport
 MonitorHotSyncLib.PPC  
 
 
 What does this mean and what do I do about it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Harry
 
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: What does this mean?

[andrew arnold]

Sorry, I didn't read the replies. So are you saying the your palm will synch
correctly if you re-install the software? The Macfixit site said it was a
problem with the palm software and it needed to be updated. Has anyone had
such an experience?

 Do you use a palm pilot?
 
 I just upgraded to panther and when I log in I get the following error
 message:
 
 
 
 The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of a
 shared library error: 8Transport MonitorTransport
 MonitorHotSyncLib.PPC  
 
 
 What does this mean and what do I do about it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Harry
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
 1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
 2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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MacGroup: Ram in Emac

[andrew arnold]

My mother is thinking of getting an eMac. She is hung up on someone telling
her that only Apple should install additional RAM. I have installed it in G4
towers, Powerbooks and an iMac. Does anyone have experience installing in an
eMac? Is it difficult, I think I could help her do it if it is no more
difficult than these other machines..

Thanks

Andy




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MacGroup: Quicken for OS X?

[andrew arnold]

Rex,

I have used Quicken 2004 under OSX.2.8 for a few months and it seems very
stable. I have not tried it under X.3 yet, I have heard there are a few
issues on Panther. Actually, Quicken 2003 under Jaguar seemed very stable to
me, I used it for a year. I would suggest installing it, exporting your data
to it, then keep both versions going for a month until you are sure you are
comfortable, but I don't think you will have any problems.

Andy

 I tried a couple years ago to use the then-new Quicken for OS X, and found it
 to be unstable.  It kept losing transactions, windows wouldn't redraw
 properly, just way too buggy to trust my meager bank accounts to it.  It's the
 one reason I keep Virtual PC installed on my iBook--so I can run the PC
 version of Quicken which is much more stable.
 
 I was wondering though if anybody here has tried the latest Quicken 2004
 release for OS X?  If so could you share your experiences, good or bad?  I'd
 really like to remove Virtual PC from my iBook but I'm just nervous about
 switching back to the Mac version of Quicken.
 
 Thanks,
 
 --- Rex Baldazo
 --- Senior Editor
 --- Builder.com
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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| be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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MacGroup: Panther Problems

[andrew arnold]

Do you have Default folder installed? I had an old version and it created
some of this same behavior with apps quitting on me. Upgrade to the newest,
1.9.1, I think.

 When I decided to upgrade to Panther I installed a new 60 gig hard drive on my
 G3 because my previous hard drive was only 6 gig.  So, I installed the hard
 drive, partitioned it, put OS 9 on 10 gig and OS X Panther on 50 gig.  Well,
 I'm running somewhat smoothly; however, programs/applications stall (not quite
 a freeze that requires a restart) when I send something to print.  Also having
 trouble with applications unexpectedly quitting - a popup message appears
 (i.e., Microsoft Word-Excel-Entourage, Safari, MSN Messenger).  Has anyone
 else had these problems and are there any suggestions to correct these
 problems out there?  Thanks for your help.  Belinda
 
 
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Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: Video question

[andrew arnold]

If you have a large MPG file on your HD, is there an easy way to split it up
over 2 or 3 VCDs??? I can't find this function in Toast 6 or any of the
other apps Lee showed a few months back.


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



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MacGroup: iTunes sharing...

[andrew arnold]

OK, thanks for clearing that up!

 Local sharing (LAN) works just fine. The trouble comes in with long
 distance sharing (WAN or internet). In V4.0, the WAN sharing was
 enabled, but there soon was released a program that recorded the
 streams which annoyed the RIAA -- so the gossip goes -- which prompted
 Apple to release V4.01 - on, which limited things to local sharing.
 
 Jerry
 
 
 On Nov 3, 2003, at 9:41 PM, andrew arnold wrote:
 
 I'm confused. I just upgraded to iTunes 4.1 on several Jaguar machines
 10.2.6 and I can share (not swap) files over the network of 5
 machines. Am I
 missing something???
 
 On Nov 3, 2003, at 4:56 AM, Ed Wiser suggested:
 
 Bill, you could use Nicecast and do stream your iTunes that way.
 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/
 
 This costs money. You could also try iceCast2 along with one of the
 many Java/PHP/Perl controllers for free. It's pretty clear who the
 Nicecast people are using for their inspiration. Nicecast looks to me
 like a pretty version of iceCast for Mac OS X. As such, it's probably
 a
 lot easier to set up.
 
 http://www.icecast.org
 
 Many iceCast utilities are on SourceForge
 
 http://sourceforge.net
 
 
 
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 | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
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 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
   1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
   2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: iTunes sharing...

[andrew arnold]

I'm confused. I just upgraded to iTunes 4.1 on several Jaguar machines
10.2.6 and I can share (not swap) files over the network of 5 machines. Am I
missing something???

 On Nov 3, 2003, at 4:56 AM, Ed Wiser suggested:
 
 Bill, you could use Nicecast and do stream your iTunes that way.
 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/
 
 This costs money. You could also try iceCast2 along with one of the
 many Java/PHP/Perl controllers for free. It's pretty clear who the
 Nicecast people are using for their inspiration. Nicecast looks to me
 like a pretty version of iceCast for Mac OS X. As such, it's probably a
 lot easier to set up.
 
 http://www.icecast.org
 
 Many iceCast utilities are on SourceForge
 
 http://sourceforge.net
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Cassettes to CDs

[andrew arnold]

Roxio's Toast comes with Spin Doctor, which helps you make the conversion. I
have used it, and the results are pretty good. I have run the standard tape
deck directly into the sound in port on the Mac and that didn't produce the
best results (it was a bit distorted). I am looking at getting a new
receiver with better line out signals to try it again.

 I have many old cassette tapes with music on them that I would like to convert
 to digital format and put them on CDs. My Powerbook has the ability to write
 CDs, I have an analog-to-digital converter (a bare bones recording studio
 consisting of an M-Audio's Quattro and Omni I/O devices) and the audio
 recording program Deck LE (v3.5.2).
 
 What sort of cassette player, with what sort of input/output ports, would I
 need in order to convert these cassette recordings into a digital format that
 could be burned to CDs? Would I need any other equipment? Any recommendations
 on how to get the cleanest conversion from analog/cassette to digital/CD?
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 
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 | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be October 28. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Networking Question

[andrew arnold]

If I keep my G4 tower in another room, and it is asleep, is there a way to
wake it from my powerbook in another room over the network so that I can
access its drives, or do I have to physically go and wake the G4 tower
first? 

Also, OS9 used to have a control panel that allowed you to schedule times of
the day to wake and sleep the machine on a schedule. Is there anything like
that for OSX?

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: AC Ethernet

[andrew arnold]

Since Airport has limited range, and since my finished basement would be
hard to reach via an ethernet wire, I bought a couple of Netgear
Wall-plugged Ethernet Bridges, which use the home' existing electrical
wiring. My question is this:

How secure is this setup? Can someone in a nearby house tap into my network?
The box says there is encryption available for certain Windows Oses, but
nothing about Macs.

Thanks


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Web Dumper 1.8 by MaxProg?

[andrew arnold]

I bought some kind of email bouncer program from them a couple of years ago
and wasn't too happy with the performance. It wasn't very expensive, maybe
$15 so I let it go.

 I was looking for a program to download complete websites for a project
 I am working on and I stumbled across Web Dumper by a company called
 MaxProg. Anybody familiar with either?
 
 Any info greatly appreciated.
 
 
 Carlos
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Lee's Video Presentation

[andrew arnold]

Lee, you were right on. Apparently, Versiontracker only takes you to the
1.6.1 update. You have to go to the developer page to download the whole
package instead. Thanks

 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, andrew arnold complained:
 
 I've tried 3 different mainstream DVDs now, and they all have the error
 message. I have English selected as the language...
 
 Check to make sure you have the whole package installed and not just
 the updater. The most recent updater looks like the program, but it
 really only the front end and a few of the subprograms. It won't know
 hat to handle some of the audio formats.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Airport extreme

[andrew arnold]

Does anyone know if there is an Airport Extreme external PCMCIA card
available for the 800 MHz 15 Powerbooks? I hear the reception on the built
in card is terrible. I also have to go from the base station up on the
second floor to my TV room in the basement. Ward, does Mactown have anything
like this?

Thanks


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Need to borrow a tool

[andrew arnold]

Hi Harry, I looked, the smallest size I have is a T10. You are welcome to
borrow it, but I don't think it would help you. Sorry.

Andy

 Hey!
 
 I'm in the middle of replacing the pram battery on my wallstreet
 powerbook. I need a torx screwdriver (size t8) to continue. I have a T8
 bit which fits into a driver, but the shaft of the bit is too large for
 one hole at the bottom of which is a screw.
 
 ERGO, I need a Torx T8 screwdriver. So does anyone out there have one I
 can borrow for a day or two? Can I pick it up tonight?
 
 Help me please!
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Harry
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Lee's Video Presentation

[andrew arnold]

I've tried 3 different mainstream DVDs now, and they all have the error
message. I have English selected as the language...

 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 09:48 PM, andrew arnold complained:
 
 Has anyone tried the Forty-Two program Lee demonstrated? I tried
 version
 1.6.1 and it gives me an error message saying Sorry.. Forty-two did
 not
 detect AC3 audio in the language you chose, or detected PCM audio
 only. It
 cannot transcode to MPEG without it. Please try your DVD in 514 Mode.
 I am
 trying to make an SVCD backup of my favorite DVD. I have tried every
 setting
 I can think of.
 
 I've not seen this problem. Are you sure your DVD has audio content in
 the language you chose on the popup? I have a cheap DVD that has its
 English content labeled as German, and that's the only audio on the
 disk.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Lee's presentation

[andrew arnold]

I just wanted to thank Lee for the very informative presentation last night.
I learned more about video in 2 hours than I have in years. Thanks again!

Also thanks to Harry who spends a lot of his personal time putting these
meetings together. We don't appreciate you as much as we should!


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: OSX utility

[andrew arnold]

Does anyone have any experience with the new TechTool Pro 4? Version 3 used
to work very well with OS9.

I have used Drive 10 for awhile, but it really doesn't seem to do much. I
get the feeling Micromat will be folding it into Techtool pro 4, but that is
just a guess.

Andy

 Hi Diane,
 
 We live and die by Disk Warrior.  Version 3 is OS X native too.
 
 The OS 9 version (2.1) came with a slow little optimizer called Plus
 Optimizer (I think) which works fine when booted up from the Disk Warrior CD
 in OS 9.  There's not a native OS X version I would recommend although the
 new Speed Disk may be a good option if it works as advertised.  Too new to
 tell.
 
 And of course we could have a good week long thread if we started to debate
 the value of defragmenting an OS X volume.
 
 Ward Oldham, MacDude
 MacTown
 1041 Bardstown Road
 Louisville, KY  40204
 502-485-1243
 ward at mactown.us
 http://www.mactown.us
 
 
 On 7/13/03 8:15 PM, Diane Stinnett usafdesigner at insightbb.com wrote:
 
 Could someone, or several someones, recommend a good utility program
 for OSX? One that has defrag capabilities? I looked at Norton's but
 there are several really bad reviews about it on version tracker. Is
 Disk Warrior any good anymore? Does Drive 10 do it all?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Diane
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Re: OSX utility

[andrew arnold]

So does most of the group own several utilities, like Disk Warrior 3 AND
Drive 10? I thought OSX was supposed to do away with most of the need for
these 3rd party utilities. Now it seems like there are more of them than
ever!

 andrew arnold a0arno01 at Louisville.edu wrote:
 Does anyone have any experience with the new TechTool Pro 4? Version 3 used
 to
 work very well with OS9. I have used Drive 10 for awhile, but it really
 doesn't seem to do much. I get the feeling Micromat will be folding it into
 Techtool pro 4...
 
 Drive 10 does a good job for me on files, repairing and degragging them. I
 have such big empty volumes that I only defrag files, not the volumes.
 DiskWarrior 3.0 only works on directories, repairing and optimizing them. It
 does not compete with Drive 10 as they do different things.
 MicroMat says TTP 4 will not be out until August. It will no doubt do all
 that Drive 10 and more, like TTP 3 does, but I agree it will not take the
 place of DW for directory work:
 --
 From: Micromat Processing processing at micromat.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:30:22 -0700
 To: Allan Atherton aatherton at insightbb.com
 Subject: Re: When will TTP4 come?
 Micromat hopes to release the new upgrade, TechTool Pro 4 (for OS X), in
 August, 2003.
 Sincerely,
 MicroMat Inc
 1055 West College Avenue, #333
 Santa Rosa CA  95401-6504
 707-566-3831  phone
 707-566-3871  fax
 www.micromat.com
 -
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: Need help

[andrew arnold]

Thanks Harry,

I have two internal drives, the boot drive and this second one I use as my
scratch drive. I don't bother to back it up because it doesn't contain any
original work documents. But it does contain my entire iTunes library and
some other stuff I'd rather not try to rebuild if I don't have to.

Unfortunately, I don't have an OSX system folder installed there. But I did
keep my classic folder on that drive. Perhaps that would be recognized if I
swapped it out with my OSX boot drive That was a good idea you had. I
don't have another machine to try it in (only a powerbook - and it would not
mount under target disk mode on my PB either)...

A

 I'm guessing here, but it's probably toast.
 
 I don't know how many internal drives you have but just on the slim
 chance the connectors are shot and not the drive try hooking it to a
 different connector or switching it out with your boot drive (assuming
 it's got a boot partition on it). Or if you have another machine try it there.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Harry
 
 Thursday, July 3, 200311:16 PMandrew arnolda0arno01 at Louisville.edu
 
 I turned on my G4 450 today and the second Maxtor (Quantum) ATA 40GB hard
 drive I had installed internally 2 years ago failed to be recognized. I did
 an Apple system profiler and saw nothing, Apple Disk Utility saw nothing and
 Micromat Drive 10 saw nothing. Does this mean the drive is toast, or is
 there another possible explanation? Thanks for any insights!!
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
 
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be July 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
| This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.

MacGroup: User Account trouble

[andrew arnold]

I am trying to help a friend. He bought his daughter an iBook and I helped
him set up himself as administrator and created a limited account for his
daughter, Sarah. Sarah has tried twice to make a fancy drawing document she
created in Appleworks become the desktop pattern. I know this probably
doesn't work because it is not a graphics file... But here is the problem.
Now when she tries to log back in under her user account, she gets a
pinwheel that will run for hours and can't log back in. My friend can log in
as administrator, but we can't log back in as Sarah. Have repaired
permissions, run Drive 10, etc. to no avail. What is going on here? Any
ideas?

Thanks

Andy


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

MacGroup: TurboTax state

[andrew arnold]

I have downloaded it and installed it successfully. Had other issues with
Turbotax that may have been fixed thanks to suggestions from this very
group!

 Is anyone besides me having difficulty downloading or installing from CD (I
 have tried both) the TurboTax Kentucky tax return program?  Thanks for any
 help.
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

MacGroup: Re: TurboTax state

[andrew arnold]

Yes, it was I who had the problems with the quitting. But don't keep just
saving to the same file. I did the same thing and after 10 hours of work the
file became corrupt. So now I created 20 folders on a zip disk and every 30
minutes or so I quit the program and drag the file into a new folder. Now if
the file becomes corrupt, I can just restore from any one of the 20 saves...

Andy

 Agsteng at aol.com wrote:
 Is anyone besides me having difficulty downloading or installing from CD (I
 have tried both) the TurboTax Kentucky tax return program?
 
 I got the Federal on CD last Fall and then downloaded the State in January.
 No problem with anything there.
 Someone recently asked about TT quitting. Today I was entering 1099-Div
 forms and TT did quit. I had to re-enter about half a dozen since my last
 Save, and I then began to Save after every form.
 Allan Atherton
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

MacGroup: Turbotax

[andrew arnold]

Ward, thanks for the info. It is interesting. I have not changed my hardware
configuration, and I get a repeatable crash when I am working in Turbotax.
It NEVER happens in any other program. I assume it is a kernel panic. I have
never seen anything like it. The screen, cursor, etc all completely freeze
and code spills down the screen. I have to hard-reboot.

 Andy,
 
 The great percentage of kernel panics are due to hardware issues, not
 software.  We've sold many copies of Turbotax at the store and not the first
 negative feedback.
 
 Ward Oldham, MacDude
 MacTown
 1041 Bardstown Road
 Louisville, KY  40204
 502-485-1243
 ward at mactown.us
 http://www.mactown.us
 
 
 
 On 2/18/03 8:34 PM, andrew arnold a0arno01 at Louisville.edu wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried this year's Turbotax program by Intuit?  Under OS 10.2.3 I
 get what I think are kernel panics. The whole system locks up and black and
 white code scrolls down the page. This is the only program that has EVER
 crashed under OSX since I have been using it all the way back to the beta.
 
 Now my data file has been corrupted after one of these crashes and I have
 lost 10 hours worth of work since my last Retrospect backup. Tech support
 says I just have to start over again.
 
 Even under OS 9.2, the program doesn't seem to be able to update itself
 properly when it goes out to Intuit looking for revisions.. Has anyone else
 experienced these problems? Beware if you are using this program. Back your
 data files up FREQUENTLY!
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
 1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
 2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 
 
 
 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

MacGroup: Turbotax

[andrew arnold]

Has anyone tried this year's Turbotax program by Intuit?  Under OS 10.2.3 I
get what I think are kernel panics. The whole system locks up and black and
white code scrolls down the page. This is the only program that has EVER
crashed under OSX since I have been using it all the way back to the beta.

Now my data file has been corrupted after one of these crashes and I have
lost 10 hours worth of work since my last Retrospect backup. Tech support
says I just have to start over again.

Even under OS 9.2, the program doesn't seem to be able to update itself
properly when it goes out to Intuit looking for revisions.. Has anyone else
experienced these problems? Beware if you are using this program. Back your
data files up FREQUENTLY!


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be February 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.

MacGroup: Retrospect execution errors

[andrew arnold]

Does anyone experience Retrospect Express execution errors when trying to
backup???

I have the latest version/ drivers installed, using X.2.1 backing up to
CD-R. I get a string of thousands of execution errors in the log after
backup is finished. I thought this was the best backup software on the
market?

Andy


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.

MacGroup: future Louisville Computer Society meetings

[andrew arnold]

How about calling on Adobe or some other big developers? It seems we used to
get some of them come thru in the past, and what better way to demo their
products in front of a captive audience of users??? This would become an
even easier sell in the future if we could get our membership attendance up
more. It seems we hit a high point in attendance a couple years ago when you
posted the meetings in the CJ tech page. Also, we could print some
flyers/info cards to leave in CompUSA, Murphy's and Mactown publicizing the
group. Just some thoughts.

Andy

 Hi,
 
 October 22nd's LCS meeting will feature a presentation by Apple's Byron
 Songer. I think he plans to demo Jaguar.
 
 At the November 26 meeting, LCS member Bill Rising will tell you everything
 you always wanted to know about applescript (well, maybe not everything).
 
 There is no meeting in December.
 
 I'm beginning to think about 2003 meetings. And I'm calling on YOU! That's
 right YOU! You know who you are.
 
 What are you interested in? What do you do with technology that you are
 willing to share with the group at a Louisville Computer Society meeting (no
 I don't think a demo of porn sites is pertinent :-) )?
 
 Are there any gamers out there?
 
 Do you use some piece of esoteric software that others might enjoy seeing.
 
 Is anyone use Speech recognition software they can demo?
 
 Let me know if you are willing to present at a Louisville Computer Society
 meeting. All meetings are on the 4th Tuesday of the month at Pitt Academy.
 
 
 Harry
 
 Harry Jacobson-Beyer
 Louisville Computer Society
 A Macintosh User Group
 502-634-1103
 
 http://www.aye.net/~lcs
 
 Meeting Time: 7:00 p.m.
 Location: Pitt Academy - 4605 Poplar Level Road
 
 Pitt Academy is at the intersection of Poplar
 Level Road and Gilmore Lane. From the Watterson
 Expressway go south on Poplar Level. Pitt is the
 first driveway on the left beyond the traffic
 light at Gilmore Lane. The building is ell shaped.
 Enter through doors at junction of arms of the ell.
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be September 24
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be October 22
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.

MacGroup: Apple's Superdrive

[andrew arnold]

 Thanks Ward,
 
 So is it a good replacement for my external CD-RW drive (Sony 10x4x24) as
 well? I guess I could install it below my stock CD-DVD reader built into the
 G4. My zip is an external model...
 
 Andy
 
 
 
 On 8/31/02 11:12 PM, andrew arnold a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ward,
 
 I saved this message for almost a year. I am considering purchasing a DVD-R
 as you mentioned below. Have you had any trouble with yours? I have a G4
 450. Is installation really that easy Is there an extra bay and drawer
 that will open, or do you have to ditch the CD-Rom that comes with the G4??
 
 thanks
 
 Andy
 
 
 Hey folks,
 
 Those who own G4s who salivate at the thought of having a Pioneer
 DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD-RW internal drive need to check out what these puppies can
 be currently had for.
 
 http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/0-7085-311-6145334.html?tag=st.sh
 .sr.pl.pr6145334
 
 I?ve recently installed one of these in my G4 and it works just like Apple?s
 stock superdrive, because it is.  I was slightly concerned that Apple
 customized their ROMs for this drive but initially I believe they have not.
 iDVD is supposed to only work on Apple?s stock superdrive and it recognizes
 this unit as such.  Installation is as plug-and-play as you can get.
 
 Ward Oldham
 
 
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
   1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
   2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 Things have continued to work without the first glitch.  I did remove the
 existing DVD-ROM drive that was originally installed because I had a zip drive
 installed below it.  It was just the easiest thing to do.  From what I
 recall, the drive was configured as master as well as the Pioneer DVD-R I put
 in so I didn?t have to touch a jumper.
 
 You can now purchase the DVR-104 as well as the original DVR-103.
 http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/search/results/1,10214,0-1257,00.html?tag=bot
 qt=Pioneer+DVD
 
 Good luck shopping!
 Ward Oldham


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams

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MacGroup: Apple's Superdrive

[andrew arnold]

Glad to see someone else stays up all night on their Mac too  :-)

I read a review of the DRV-104 you suggested. They are talking about a new
standard coming along called DVD-RW that may make this unit more obsolete.
What are they talking about and is it worth the wait to see what
develops

I like your suggestion for keeping the Sony and swapping out the DVD-ROM

Thanks for your expert advice!

Andy

 Hi Andy,
 
 The superdrive will burn CDs at 8x, not the 10x speed of your Sony.
 Ah, the sacrifice one makes for a drive that does it all.  Sure, you
 could install it under your existing drive and configure it as a slave
 drive. The front door panel would be the only thing you would need to
 locate (or leave it open if you don't care how it looks).
 
 If it was me, I'd swap your internal drive for the superdrive and keep
 your external Sony.
 
 Ward
 
 On Sunday, September 1, 2002, at 12:21  AM, andrew arnold wrote:
 
 Thanks Ward,
 
 So is it a good replacement for my external CD-RW drive (Sony 10x4x24)
 as well? I guess I could install it below my stock CD-DVD reader built
 into the G4. My zip is an external model...
 
 Andy
 
 
 
 On 8/31/02 11:12 PM, andrew arnold a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ward,
 
 I saved this message for almost a year. I am considering purchasing a
 DVD-R as you mentioned below. Have you had any trouble with yours? I
 have a G4 450. Is installation really that easy Is there an extra
 bay and drawer that will open, or do you have to ditch the CD-Rom that
 comes with the G4??
 
 thanks
 
 Andy
 
 
 Hey folks,
 
 Those who own G4s who salivate at the thought of having a Pioneer
 DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD-RW internal drive need to check out what these puppies
 can be currently had for.
 
 http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/0-7085-311-
 6145334.html?tag=st.sh.sr.pl.pr6145334
 
 I?ve recently installed one of these in my G4 and it works just like
 Apple?s stock superdrive, because it is. ?I was slightly concerned
 that Apple customized their ROMs for this drive but initially I
 believe they have not. ?iDVD is supposed to only work on Apple?s stock
 superdrive and it recognizes this unit as such. ?Installation is as
 plug-and-play as you can get.
 
 Ward Oldham
 
 
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
 ??1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
 ??2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 Things have continued to work without the first glitch. ?I did remove
 the existing DVD-ROM drive that was originally installed because I had
 a zip drive installed below it. ?It was just the easiest thing to do.
 ?From what I recall, the drive was configured as master as well as
 the Pioneer DVD-R I put in so I didn?t have to touch a jumper.
 
 You can now purchase the DVR-104 as well as the original DVR-103.
 http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/search/results/1,10214,0-
 1257,00.html?tag=botqt=Pioneer+DVD
 
 Good luck shopping!
 Ward Oldham
 
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Andy
 a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
 
 Remember the two most important things in life:
 ??1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
 ??2.
 
 The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.
 
 Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
 the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams
 

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be September 24
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.

MacGroup: Audio Software

[andrew arnold]

amazing slow downer is a great piece of software... Has some of these
functions, but am not sure it will do exactly what you want. You can search
for it on www.versiontracker.com  and I think download a trial version

Andy

on 5/13/02 6:11 PM, Jerry Yeager at jerry at browseryshop.com wrote:


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be May 28.
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.

MacGroup: Sony CPD-G400

[andrew arnold]

Is anyone interested in buying a Sony CPD-G400 19 Monitor? Brand new in the
box never used. My wife's business didn't grow as soon and fast as we
thought. 

I also have an old Quadra 660AV, do any schools want computers this old
(1993 or so). 24MB, 230MB HD, 25 MHz 68040 I think


Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu

Remember the two most important things in life:
  1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
  2.

The software box said, Windows 98 or better, so I bought a Macintosh.

Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 22.
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs.

MacGroup: FW: Microsoft Litigation

[andrew arnold]

FYI... One more outlet for your opinion

Kind regards,
Andy
a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu



--
From: Wayne Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:24:14 -0700
To: a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
Subject: Microsoft Litigation

 Thank you for the comments you submitted to our office regarding the
Microsoft case.  Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, along with Attorneys
General from other states, has decided not to join the settlement reached
between the U.S. Department of Justice and Microsoft.  We believe the
proposed settlement fails to achieve the necessary goals of a proper remedy:
halting the illegal conduct, promoting competition in this industry, and
depriving Microsoft of its illegal gains.

 The judge in the Microsoft case will be considering whether to approve the
proposed settlement between the Department of Justice and Microsoft - and
deciding whether additional (or different) remedies are appropriate.  If you
would like the judge to know your views regarding the Department of
Justice's settlement, you should submit your comments to the Department of
Justice by January 28, 2002.  Comments submitted to the Department of
Justice will be forwarded to the judge.

 Comments are encouraged by e-mail or by fax, but regular mail is
acceptable.  The e-mail address for comments is microsoft.atr at usdoj.gov
(in the subject line, type Microsoft Settlement).  The fax numbers are
(202) 307 1454 or (202) 616-9937.  If you send comments by mail, they should
be sent to: Renata B. Hesse, Antitrust Division, U.S. Department of Justice,
601 D Street, NW, Suite 1200, Washington, D.C. 20530-0001.

 Thank you again for contacting us.

 Mark Shurtleff, Utah Attorney General



The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 22.
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