Re: adobi flash player installer pop up, how do I do this?
And you could always encourage them to explore making the switch to html5 which would allow even more folks access. Then people using devices such as the iPhone and iPad could listen. On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, If your Church uses Flash, then it wouldn't work if you uninstalled it. For updating, you could either go to the Adobe site or, in your System Preferences, go to the Flash panel and update it from there. Just remember that the update process isn't very accessible anyway. I just use the tab key and spacebar to do the update that is, the tab key and spacebar without the VO keys. Later... On 2012-05-05, at 8:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Guys. I do have a question, however. I think was talked about earlier, but I think I was too dumb to understand the answer. At least one site I go to uses flash, my church site that I sometimes access to watch services when I can't go myself. Although I can't control the volume and pause, etc., it does seem to work well enough for me to hear the service. So, if I uninstall Flash as just recommended, how can I then watch the service? I have just ignored it when the site wants to update the thing. I asked Apple about this when I was in the store last time, and he said that if I wanted to update it, I should just go to the Adobe site and update it there so I wouldn't risk any viruses. What about that. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Ah, thanks for the info. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Yes, uninstall flash. It is a waste of it doesn't work for us. Also, security researchers claim it as a number two cars of viruses. Jonathan Cohn On May 4, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to find out if there is a way that you can make the Adobi Flash Player install the updates by themselves instead of bugging me about it constantly? Hope so cause it gets rather old. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: defining single key for vo keys?
And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard. On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock the VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off. HTH, Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying that you just want windows-like control. It's simply that hitting a single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input commands is more streamlined and easier to do, IMHO. So, if it's possible to map VO comman keys to be something different, could anyone tell me how? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I save a voice memo sent from my wife's iPhone?
Would you not want to just add it to iTune? Is there any particular reason you would want to save it in the voice memo app? Btw, I am not aware of a way to do this. Your best bet is to add it to iTunes and make a handy playlist called something like Sounds of Frogs or My Bride's Audible Treasures', or something along those lines. :) On May 5, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: guys, My wife recorded the sound of some frogs outside our home a few days ago as a voice memo on her iPhone. I asked her to e-mail it to me. the e-mail arrived and I can hear the memo. However, I'd like to save the attachment and delete the e-mail. How do I import this into my voice memos on my iPhone from Mac Mail? thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
Surely it could not have taken you five hours to install Lion. That is impossible. Maybe to install Lion, set everything up, and install all of your apps, but even then something just doesn't add up. On May 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Kliphton wrote: That depends on how long it took. I've done it twice, and both times it took almost 5 hours. How long did yours take? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in. Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until the computer booted up. Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right. I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I did. what was the point of that, it seemed too easy. Did I do something wrong? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right
That is interesting Daniel because I have no such issues with Lion at all. I always have VO speaking at the login prompt. On May 5, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I highly doubt you needed to reinstall for that. That's a known issue in Lion, where Voiceover will not speak at the login field, even though it's set to. In fact, there are bugs with VO starting on startup in lion in general. I've reported them to Apple for investigation, so perhaps they'll be addressed in Mountain Lion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Trying to reinstall operating system, not sure if I did it right I don't know yet, I only turned on my computer once since then and it went directly to the desk top, but that doesn't mean anything, it only means that it hasn't had time to act weird yet. We'll see the next time I shut down and turn it back on. Keep your fingers crossed. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: The question you need to ask yourself is, did it fix my problem? I love how easy it is to get all back up and running on my Mac. Much easier than reinstalling Windows. Scott On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I was having problems with my operating system, Lion, popping up with a log in field and no voice over even though it was set up to come on with the log in field, but it was also set to just log in without being loged in. Someone told me to reinstall Lion, using command R and holding it down until the computer booted up. Well, I did that, but I'm not sure I did it right. I told it to install Lion new, and it asked me to restart the machine so I did. what was the point of that, it seemed too easy. Did I do something wrong? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening or closing a series of apps at once?
You could compile so it can run as an app, but remember you must ensure you not only spell the app correctly, but ensure you capitalize the name as shown in the Finder, (e.g. Mail has a cap m). On May 5, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I'm unfamiliar with the steps involved in writing and running a script. However, if I could link this script to a Keyboard Commander shortcut, that would be perfect. I'm assuming I write a file with such commands as tell application mail to open and then place that file somewhere, or change its permissions such that it executes instead of opens to an editor? I'm intrigued; thanks. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: defining single key for vo keys?
Alex, I'm not sure how much navigation you are looking to accomplish with a single key, but quick nav does provide a considerable amount of flexibility. COnsider that you can use the VO rotor via left and up arrow or right arrow and up arrow to change options such as by word, character, etc. You use the up/down arrows to move by the option selected in the rotor. I use this instead of the commanders. THe great thing is that VO provides several ways to accomplish the same thing. On May 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall wrote: True. I don't have a trackpad, but I do have a numpad, I often forget I set up a commander for it though. On 5/5/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard. On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock the VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off. HTH, Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying that you just want windows-like control. It's simply that hitting a single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input commands is more streamlined and easier to do, IMHO. So, if it's possible to map VO comman keys to be something different, could anyone tell me how? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I save a voice memo sent from my wife's iPhone?
Actually that would likely work. You can save the attachment by going to the menu, VO-m or control-f2 and choose file. You will find the option for saving the attachment there. YOu can also find this in the header area of the message. Once you save the file to the drive you can import it into iTUnes. On May 5, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote: Hi, if you control click on the voice memo file in the email, is there an option to save as? If so, you could save it somewhere, then use ITunes' Add To Library function to navigate to where you saved the file, then hit ok. It should then be in your iTunes Library. You might even be able to put it in the Voice Memos playlist. On May 5, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: How do I save it to iTunes? My problem is that I can't separate the memo from the e-mail in which it's imbedded. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Ray, you are correct. My anger is the fact that I'm being called lazy and I can't bother to lower myself to answer the question. So, could I have handled that better perhaps so; however, I do not regret what I said. So, I have nothing further to say on the issue. On May 5, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we could do without the emotional aspect of this. It ain't helpin' anybody. I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not. Some do, some don't. As for me, I ain't never goin' back to windows ever. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Deleting voices
Of course realize that deleting these voices has no impact on performance and would not give you back any significant amount of space generally. On May 3, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, there is a way you can remove the voices. I’m going to paste in instructions. Using Finders great “Go to Folder” feature of Command+Shift+G enter the following path: /System/Library/Speech/Voices/ You’ll see a list of voices, but notice they come in two formats: Voice and VoiceCompact, you can keep VoiceCompact because those are just the short samples, it’s the Voice.SpeechVoice you want to delete to remove the full voice. For a quick example we’ll get rid of Samantha – sorry Samantha, you sound lovely but you take up too much space – so we will be deleting Samantha.SpeechVoice. Select that folder and either drag it to the Trash or hit Command+Delete to place it there automatically. Because the voice files are contained in /System/ you will need to authenticate with the administrator password in order to delete the file, so type that in, then you can empty the Trash. No more Samantha! I hope this helps! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Deleting voices Id like to know this as well On 2012-05-03 7:05 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is it possible to delete the many compact voices one doesn't use? Do these compact voices slow the Mac computers down at all? I have downloaded a few of the premium ones but really can't see a use for most of the pre installed voices. I suspect the answer will be no but thought it worth asking. Thanks to all for help on mailbox issues. All sorted now. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Deleting voices
Obviously, but I would hope that folks wouldn't download all the possible voices unless they speak all the various languages. To tell you the truth I do not find most the other voices to be of any real improvement over Alex or Vicki. On May 3, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Actually, it would. If you downloaded a lot of them. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Deleting voices Of course realize that deleting these voices has no impact on performance and would not give you back any significant amount of space generally. On May 3, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, there is a way you can remove the voices. I’m going to paste in instructions. Using Finders great “Go to Folder” feature of Command+Shift+G enter the following path: /System/Library/Speech/Voices/ You’ll see a list of voices, but notice they come in two formats: Voice and VoiceCompact, you can keep VoiceCompact because those are just the short samples, it’s the Voice.SpeechVoice you want to delete to remove the full voice. For a quick example we’ll get rid of Samantha – sorry Samantha, you sound lovely but you take up too much space – so we will be deleting Samantha.SpeechVoice. Select that folder and either drag it to the Trash or hit Command+Delete to place it there automatically. Because the voice files are contained in /System/ you will need to authenticate with the administrator password in order to delete the file, so type that in, then you can empty the Trash. No more Samantha! I hope this helps! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Deleting voices Id like to know this as well On 2012-05-03 7:05 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is it possible to delete the many compact voices one doesn't use? Do these compact voices slow the Mac computers down at all? I have downloaded a few of the premium ones but really can't see a use for most of the pre installed voices. I suspect the answer will be no but thought it worth asking. Thanks to all for help on mailbox issues. All sorted now. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
needed for work both in the workshop and on site as a rep for a company, so the online catalogue needs to be available and accessible to me all the time, the iPad for me feels absolutely amazing, after road testing the new model, I've fallen in love with it. I don't need a wife, just an iPad lol lew On 28 Apr 2012, at 13:39, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Christine, I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. Best, Donna On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for disobeying laws. I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and progress (for others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards those who remember us with our business. Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my para or a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry gets plenty of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I deserve to be able to access their material independently. OK. Topic over. Those of you who wish to continue this off-list are welcome; I've appreciated your correspondence thus far. Christine On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote: I am sure commenting on this only adds fuel to the fire, but I did want to point out that as I recall the person that is responsible for this movie vault thing also runs a legit company. I would find it difficult to believe that he has not checked into this because no one would want to put their business assets at risk. If there truly is an investigation then prove it. I get pretty annoyed when people claim something, but cannot or do not provide any reference to back those claims. And for the record I do not condone pirating of any kind and believe that regardless of accessibility issues even blind people must follow the laws. On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Naturally, if the moderator deems this discussion verboten, I will refrain further, but I would feel remiss not to point out the following for consideration: 1. As of several hours ago, there was nothing on the FBI's official web site regarding an investigation, nor were there any press
Re: Priorities
Lawal, I know that is not your intent. You are right that the questions have been discussed here in the past and my point is to get Jenny thinking about the things that she is saying and understand they really do not fit into the context of accessibility of the Mac. Although the only context is that Apple has in fact set the bar and that bar is not easily attained by other manufacturers. Seeing the thread will likely result in pointless babble I will comment no more. :) On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. Please do not take what I'm about to say wrongly (I know I do not moderate the list) but past experiences on many lists have shown me that people can get very upset about these kind of issues (espically when we talk about getting technology and how it should be acquired). It would be very wrong of me to ask this be taken off list but if this is to be discussed, let's all keep a cool mind and a sense of proportion otherwise these discussions can get very heated and words said which are not meant. Scott, I am not criticising you for asking these questions either, but we've discussed these things so many times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail weirdness
G-mail imap is not like normal imap and I suspect Google would prefer to hold on to all those messages because of all the information they contain. :) I certainly would like to know how all those messages in the Gmail deleted messages folder on the Gmail site could be trashed all at once. I wonder if any mail client really deletes all the messages and I say delete in the sense of truly removing them. Well removing them as much as is possible since I am sure the messages are backed up somewhere in GOogle land. On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable immediate deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since then. In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing messages into a folder called Deleted messages. I guess I will have to go this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time. Or just go back to moving them to Trash manually each time I wish to delete stuff. Frankly, the the delete function in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to. It might work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP. On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Caitlyn et al, I read your message very carefully. Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple Mail. I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting. When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the keyboard. Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion. I answer yes, in the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted. Now you may be saying, Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work. To which I will reply, I understand. The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access in order to permanently delete the mail. It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account. Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like Delete Messages Immediately. This will be unchecked. You must place a checkmark in this option. Then, if all goes well and the water don't rise, as the saying goes (smile) you should be in business. While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else. One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7. If you would like to know how to configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle Shore podcast. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Caitlyn Furness Subject: mail weirdness Hi, I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages are back again! In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, and to not leave things on the server. What am I doing wrong? Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
I am sure commenting on this only adds fuel to the fire, but I did want to point out that as I recall the person that is responsible for this movie vault thing also runs a legit company. I would find it difficult to believe that he has not checked into this because no one would want to put their business assets at risk. If there truly is an investigation then prove it. I get pretty annoyed when people claim something, but cannot or do not provide any reference to back those claims. And for the record I do not condone pirating of any kind and believe that regardless of accessibility issues even blind people must follow the laws. On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Naturally, if the moderator deems this discussion verboten, I will refrain further, but I would feel remiss not to point out the following for consideration: 1. As of several hours ago, there was nothing on the FBI's official web site regarding an investigation, nor were there any press releases or other comparable references to an investigation of the movie vault. A reference would be appreciated; mere speculation or rumor could be deemed libelous. 2. The problem industries have with illegal file-sharing is loss of revenue. Since, at least in the United States, there is virtually no way to purchase audio-described movies or television shows, the industry is not being cheated of revenue. 3. The files are straight audio, with no ability, for example, to watch with sighted peers while having the benefit of the audio description. This is not at all remotely similar to downloading a film for the family to watch. That being said, the vast majority of the sighted community does this with impunity, even though many of the shows and movies they download can be seen for free when they are are shown on television. We, on the other hand, cannot even enjoy full access to these shows when they *are* on television. Either they are not audio-described at all, or it is not easy to turn on the secondary audio channel, or a particular station only carries foreign language broadcasts on the SAC rather than audio description. Comparing access to audio-described movies and shows in mp3 format to the type of file-sharing which goes on 24/7 on hundreds and thousands of sites is a stretch. 4. If the government and/or the involved industries wish to do something about the existence of resources like the movie vault, the former should mandate, and the latter should provide a market from which we can obtain these items. I have been able to watch a non-described movie with others after listening to an mp3 file and tell another blind person what is going on thanks to that previous experience. My two blind children have been able to enjoy fare which their peers enjoyed months or years ago. Until the entertainment industry levels the playing field, I will utilize resources like the movie vault with the same guiltless pleasure I take in bookshare.org (and, by the way, it is possible to download books from bookshare.org which are available commercially.) We cannot use the Kindle as others do. WE cannot use the Nook. We are severely limited in what we can access independently when it comes to entertainment, and we must even still fight for access to education at every level, despite technological advances. Holding us to the same standards as the vast majority of illegal file-sharers is legally, morally, and economically inequitable. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OT: Any Web Designers Out Here?
framework-provided controls: Use Android's built-in user interface controls whenever possible, as these components provide accessibility support by default. Custom view controls: If you build custom interface controls for your application, implement accessibility interfaces for your custom views and provide text labels for the controls. Test: Checking off the items on this list doesn’t guarantee your app is accessible. Test accessibility by attempting to navigate your application using directional controls, and also try eyes free navigation with the TalkBack service enabled. Here’s an example of implementing some basic accessibility features for an ImageButton inside an XML layout: ImageButton android:id=@+id/add_note_button android:src=@drawable/add_note_image android:contentDescription=@string/add_note_description/ Notice that we’ve added a content description that accessibility services can use to provide an audible explanation of the button. Users can navigate to this button and activate it with directional controls, because ImageButton objects are focusable by default (so you don’t have to include the android:focusable=true attribute). The good news is that, in most cases, implementing accessibility isn’t about radically restructuring your application, but rather working through the subtle details of accessibility. Making sure your application is accessible is an opportunity to look at your app from a different perspective, improve the overall quality of your app and ensure that all your users have a great experience. Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-26, at 4:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Eric I could not agree more. I found a site that I would love to be in a position to tell the devs what they need to do or direct them to a resource that would help them make their site more accessible. I think the site is built in html5 and java script. However, not being familiar with html5 I only see stuff that tells me about the java script and a butt-load of style sheet references. I should have kept up with all the html stuff, but unfortunately I have not and so my knowledge is pretty limited now. :) If you know where I can find a good set of references that could be shared please let me know. Thanks, Oh and the site if your curious is, http://http://demo.synology.com:5000/webman/index.cgi On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:51 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Christine, It's actually much cheeper to design things accessibly from the ground up. Bolting on something later can get quite expensive. We are seeing a trend towards universal design over the last few years, especially with all the work apple has done, but I'm afraid there will always be some inconsiderate people out there. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-25, at 8:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi there, everyone. I'm hoping someone can assist with something. In a nutshell, there is a site, http://www.yourmorals.org which enables you to take surveys on fascinating and intriguing aspects of morality. After you take the surveys, there are often color-coded and otherwise graphical representations of your scores as compared to others who took the surveys. Most results are therefore inaccessible. I wrote to the webmaster and received no reply, and I wrote to the man many of whose studies are discussed at this site, Professor John Haidt. He did respond, stating that it had never occurred to him that people with limited sight would be able to take their surveys, that it is an interesting consideration, but that he does not think anything can be changed until they get more money for updated web design. Is this the sort of thing which is really that expensive and time-consuming? I don't know enough about it, so would appreciate off-list feedback -- I can send anyone who wants more information the correspondence in question. It's one of those things that really could be, and should be, open to us, with the technology which is at our disposal. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: Returning to where I was in Safari
Funny, I have never had a screen reader return me to a site exactly where I left off and certainly not under windows. So, you have the option to set a web spot via vo-keys-command-right bracket or better yet a sweet spot using the same procedure; however you press the right bracket key twice. The same steps using the left bracket will remove the web spot/sweet spot. I love this feature since I can set it on a site such as the Credit Union banking site and have it always drop me at the account balance for my checking account. You may have to set this for each occurrence where you want VO to place you each time you come to a specific page. On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, Something in the Mac world I find frustrating, is how often Voiceover is bounced back to the top of webpages. 1. Is there a setting where I can stop this from happening? 2. Is there a keyboard shortcut to return VO to the last spot visited on the page? It's especially annoying in Facebook. Thanks, Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OT: Any Web Designers Out Here?
Eric I could not agree more. I found a site that I would love to be in a position to tell the devs what they need to do or direct them to a resource that would help them make their site more accessible. I think the site is built in html5 and java script. However, not being familiar with html5 I only see stuff that tells me about the java script and a butt-load of style sheet references. I should have kept up with all the html stuff, but unfortunately I have not and so my knowledge is pretty limited now. :) If you know where I can find a good set of references that could be shared please let me know. Thanks, Oh and the site if your curious is, http://http://demo.synology.com:5000/webman/index.cgi On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:51 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Christine, It's actually much cheeper to design things accessibly from the ground up. Bolting on something later can get quite expensive. We are seeing a trend towards universal design over the last few years, especially with all the work apple has done, but I'm afraid there will always be some inconsiderate people out there. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-25, at 8:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi there, everyone. I'm hoping someone can assist with something. In a nutshell, there is a site, http://www.yourmorals.org which enables you to take surveys on fascinating and intriguing aspects of morality. After you take the surveys, there are often color-coded and otherwise graphical representations of your scores as compared to others who took the surveys. Most results are therefore inaccessible. I wrote to the webmaster and received no reply, and I wrote to the man many of whose studies are discussed at this site, Professor John Haidt. He did respond, stating that it had never occurred to him that people with limited sight would be able to take their surveys, that it is an interesting consideration, but that he does not think anything can be changed until they get more money for updated web design. Is this the sort of thing which is really that expensive and time-consuming? I don't know enough about it, so would appreciate off-list feedback -- I can send anyone who wants more information the correspondence in question. It's one of those things that really could be, and should be, open to us, with the technology which is at our disposal. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: WIFI Printers?
When looking for a printer I would try to find one that allows for administration via a web interface. I have an HP color LaserJet CM2320. I am not sure this model is still available and it is not a cheap printer. However, the good thing is I do not print a lot and being that laser printers use toner instead of ink cartridges, they will last a long time. THe ink cartridges were drying out before I could get half the use from them. On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thank you Eric for sharing your experience. I forgot to say I have a time capsule also but again I'll be very careful if I buy a printer. Kawal. On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:51 AM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Kawal, I'll be following this thread with interest. I can not recommend the Printer I got with my Mac. It was very difficult for even sighted friends to set up and it often needed to be set up again such as when the power went out. It always required someone to play with the printer in addition to software settings on the Mac. My not so Friendly printer is the Canon MP 620 Multi Printer. It works better with the USB plugged directly into my Time Capsule. It is a ink jet printer copier,scanner. My experience is such that I plan to stay away from Cannon printers whenever possible. Eric Caron On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear All. I'd like to know what WIFI printer works wel with the Mac? Something that is easy to install and works well with VO and can be used in a Virtual Machine please? wouldn't want it too big either. I'm not buying one yet but I'd like some ideas. I went to the Apple Store on Saturday and there was one there touch screen but the person at the Jenius Bar said that it would be too difficult to use as the Wireless had to be set up on the printer first and not VO on it. OF course I thought APPLE should make one with VO on it smile! Thank you very much for any answers. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Larry, THank you for sharing this site. I was able to try some of the areas out with great success. Got any that use Java that would be fun to try? Java apps are not so great running on the Mac, but I can't recall how Java apps that are web-based behave. On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote: Have you tried mathjax.org On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
THanks this is the info I was looking for. So, generally it is not as bad as being completely inaccessible, but perhaps annoying. :) Although most of the web is annoying anymore, so can't be all that bad. :) Thanks for the feedback. On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: The main issue with Ajax is that updates to the page are not noticed by the screen reader unless the developer moves focus to the changed content or sets a live region attribute on the container. This isn't something mere users can fix other than setting a hotspot on the area so changes can be noticed. Another snag is when a part of the page is 'rotating content' where they tick through some stuff like top news stories or the like. This can be quite disorienting if you're in the middle of reading and focus suddenly gets yanked to the next story because things ticked. Usually there is a pause button which stops the ticking, but not always. CB On 4/21/12 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New epub Reader
The Bookle app only reads unprotected books in the epub format. If those books are unprotected (non-DRM) epub formatted books then I guess it should. On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Will this read Nook or Kindle books? On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I hadn't either until I read the original message mentioning it as an EPUB reader for the mac. Earlier today I got a message saying it was accessible so one can use it to read EPUB books on the mac like you would do with ibooks on the iPhone. That's all I know about it so far. On 4/22/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard of that program or ap. Can you explain what it is if it works on the Mac. Learning is fun and prosperous:) Jenny On Apr 22, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: bookel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Well a response to that would be inappropriate for the list, so we'll be talking about your filthy sites at a later date. :) On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Please help.
You should have received a disk and you have a problem regardless. If you ever need to recover the machine you are pretty much screwed because you do not have an install disk. Where did you get the machine and did it specifically state that you would not receive a disk? On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi all, I have run into a huge issue. I'm unable to remember my password, and when I go to put something in the trash such as an application it wants a password. How can I reset my macbook so that nothing needs passwords? I'm running snowleopard. Help says I need to run the install disk, but I didn't get an install disk with this machine as it was a refurbished machine. Is there some way I can get the media I need and then make a disk and then run it? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Please help.
Neil, If she has admin rights I still think you have to put in the old password to change it. Funny how you forget these things. :) If that is not the case then she may not have admin rights and then she is pretty much in a jam. On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Ricardo, I don't think that this option came into being until Lion, this person has Snow Leopard, which didn't offer that feature. I'm not actually ssure what to do if you have forgoten your password. but, I imagine the only place to look would be System Preferences and Users accounts etc. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 22 Apr 2012, at 14:35, Stacey Robinson wrote: I don't remember getting that There's got to be a way to fix this. option. On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, when you set up your machine, did you check the option for your password to be reset with your Apple ID? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi all, I have run into a huge issue. I'm unable to remember my password, and when I go to put something in the trash such as an application it wants a password. How can I reset my macbook so that nothing needs passwords? I'm running snowleopard. Help says I need to run the install disk, but I didn't get an install disk with this machine as it was a refurbished machine. Is there some way I can get the media I need and then make a disk and then run it? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New epub Reader
Yes it is accessible. On Apr 22, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Sorry for digging up such an old message but I never saw any replies. Has anyone tried this bookel app for the mac? I hesitate to spend ten bucks to gamble on accessibility. On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi, I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announcing a brand new epub reader for the Mac called Bookel. It is available on the Mac app store for $9.95. Just wondering whether or not anybody has tried it for VoiceOver compatibility? Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Little Snitch
Hi Matt, Well I was actually about to fire off a note to them, but wanted to ask about first. I had done a search on Google and I ran across something that implied it was accessible. So, before I sent a request I wanted to double check in the event I missed something. GGee, Java apps do seem rather problematic. :) Thanks, On Apr 22, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hey Scott. I too have tried this program without success. I have been told by a friend that this program might be written in Java which might be part of the problem. Have you tried contacting the developers? On 2012-04-21, at 7:04 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Has anyone used Little Snitch and if so under Lion? I downloaded the trial, but I was not able to access the setup screen in the configuration program. The window appears to be blank which makes me wonder if there is some prompt that VO is not seeing. ANd since I know someone will ask what Little Snitch is, basically you can watch outbound connections. If you are that curious, go check out http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html and you will learn all you ever wanted to know. The software is not free and in fact costs about $30; however, the trial will run for three hours and you can run it in demo mode for as long as you like, but you will have to restart every three hours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Little Snitch
Has anyone used Little Snitch and if so under Lion? I downloaded the trial, but I was not able to access the setup screen in the configuration program. The window appears to be blank which makes me wonder if there is some prompt that VO is not seeing. ANd since I know someone will ask what Little Snitch is, basically you can watch outbound connections. If you are that curious, go check out http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html and you will learn all you ever wanted to know. The software is not free and in fact costs about $30; however, the trial will run for three hours and you can run it in demo mode for as long as you like, but you will have to restart every three hours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about sites using Ajax
All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion
I cannot believe anyone would have the gall to admit that they engaged in illegal download of software. I cannot just hit delete and ignore this because it is people like this individual who can hurt the future of beta programs. Not to mention it is pretty stupid to download something from a site that provides pirated software. You have no idea what risks you may be taking by using pirated software. So, shame on you on all levels and yes it does call into question your ethics. On Apr 20, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: the torrents are illegal. what basically happens is a user registering as a developer either decides to create a torrent and broadcast it, or someone acquires the data from the recipient and posts a torrent of it, thereby violating terms and conditions of apple's developer license agreement. By apple's standards, this is a public software violation and folks like me get very annoyed. this causes problems where developing the software becomes more problematic with bug reports that don't tally due to inexperienced users of the software thinking it's going to be perfectly fine. the whole point of the DEVELOPER preview is for software engineers, hardware engineers and analysts to fully assess the OS, report or resolve erors through technet reports and direct contact with other apple engineers, etc. lew On 20 Apr 2012, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: I thought that was too good to be true. I knew that Mountain Lion was still in beta so I didn't know what this guy was talking about. But the question is, how could there be a torrent for it if it was still in beta? And Mike, do you realize that, number 1, it's illegal to download stuff like that, and 2, you'll run into problems with a beta version? Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion
You are so wrong you have no idea. There is no public beta and you do sign a nondisclosure agreement when you are a beta tester either invited or pay to be a part of the developer program. Get your facts straight before posting such piffle. Clearly you have no clue what an NDA is about. On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Many people know that information, because is available in the Apple pages where you can download the beta. Anybody can register for it, so don't worry, there is not a disclosure agreement broken. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 20/04/2012, a las 05:15, Ray Foret Jr escribió: Hey, if you signed on to an NDA, (non disclosure agreement) you WERE, NOT, SUPPOSED, TO, TELL, US, ANYTHING, ABOUT, THAT!!! This is something I take very very seriously, and, so should you!!! Noughty noughty noughty!!! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Macdonald wrote: hello List, OS X Mountain Lion. it is quite like iOS, with a lot of the same apps. one aspect that is different is software update. OS X Mountain Lion. the software update is done through the app store, much like iOS. just want to pass along I am . using -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion
Yes that is correct and my point. ANyone can register, but it is not a public beta if you will. I agree, the topic needs to be closed and we all can move along. I'm sure this person's membership will be limited. :) On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Scot, They’re wrong in the sense that it’s not a public beta. However, anyone can register to become a mac developer, therefore granting them access to the dev previews. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OS X Mountain Lion You are so wrong you have no idea. There is no public beta and you do sign a nondisclosure agreement when you are a beta tester either invited or pay to be a part of the developer program. Get your facts straight before posting such piffle. Clearly you have no clue what an NDA is about. On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Many people know that information, because is available in the Apple pages where you can download the beta. Anybody can register for it, so don't worry, there is not a disclosure agreement broken. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 20/04/2012, a las 05:15, Ray Foret Jr escribió: Hey, if you signed on to an NDA, (non disclosure agreement) you WERE, NOT, SUPPOSED, TO, TELL, US, ANYTHING, ABOUT, THAT!!! This is something I take very very seriously, and, so should you!!! Noughty noughty noughty!!! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Macdonald wrote: hello List, OS X Mountain Lion. it is quite like iOS, with a lot of the same apps. one aspect that is different is software update. OS X Mountain Lion. the software update is done through the app store, much like iOS. just want to pass along I am . using -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speakers
That would not be true surround sound. You have to have audio hardware to send the sound to separate channels to create the surround sound effect. On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Pam Mathers wrote: Hi. Right now I have an audio cable hooked up to the headphone jack of the computer and the other end hooked in to the exilary output in my stereo so that the sound comes through the stereo speaker. The stereo only has two speakers so if I wanted more of a surround sound, would I beable to buy two extra speakers and hook them in to the back of the computer and hear those at the same time I'm hearing the stereo ones. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: checking to see if something's broken in iTunes?
This option works for me. On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Has anyone tried importing music into their iTunes library from their Mac lately? It used to be that you could press Command-O, expand the music folder, and see everything that was on your Mac. that seems no longer to be possible. Can someone please confirm this before I write to Apple and ask them to bring that feature back? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
You also always have the option of using command-x to cut an item and command-option-v to move the file to the current location. 1. locate file 2. command-x to cut 3. move to new location 4. command-option-v to move the file to the new location. On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi, The command to drag something is VO-comma, and to drop it is VO-period. I found this out by listening to one of Mike Malarsie's How to be Blind tutorials on YouTube. HTH, Rahul On 19/04/2012, Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: that helps a lot. Thanks. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope that helps, max On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: Hi, I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag and drop work with just the keyboard? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Jenny. I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. I should say, I've tried to try it. On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: picking a calendar in ical (lion)
Frank, If you only want to see the contents of that specific calendar, you will first need to uncheck all of the other calendars. Because as you may have figured out, even when selecting that calendar in the calendar table, the calendar shows all events from all calendars. So, uncheck those calendars you are not interested in and that should do the trick. On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: Hi all, I have ICal in Lion with three exchange accounts and one gmail account. How can I tell ICal which calendar I want to work with? I found a list of calendars and check boxes and the table has Home and Work in the first two rows and then the rest of my accounts below. The calendar I want to work with is about 7 rows down. I can get there but it doesn't seem to have any effect. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail Problems, using Lion.
Veronica, Having no idea who your mail provider is or anything along those lines I have a question or two. First do you have to use pop? I have not used pop in a very long time so I cannot comment on whether there is any issues with Apple mail and pop servers. Is the pop server using standard pop on port 110 or something like APop which is a secure version of pop. Of course as a side note, pop sends passwords in the clear and is truly insecure. I forget which port APop sits on. I'm assuming you have the proper server name such as smtp.example.com, but assuming all of this have you looked at the Connection DOctor screen to see if there are any messages and if so did you see any messages that might indicate a problem with outbound connections? Sorry I have not been paying close attention to all the threads rolling through here. On Apr 14, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Okay, everyone, I'm really trying to like my new little MacBook air. I really am. And every time I get close, it bites! The first thing I tried to do on this machine was to set up my mail. I cussed and fussed at it for about two weeks, including a trip to the genious bar and we couldn't get it to accept my server for outgoing mail. It seemed to work okay if I set it to imap, but this is a pop mail account and it just seemed like something was broken here. Then one night, it just started working. I have no idea why. So I started to feel better about this computer. Now tonight as I attempted to write to this list about another subject, I can't send any more. It just says can't connect to this server and gives me the option of changing servers, of which there is no option. I have deleted and recreated this account so many times it's ridiculous. I have set up this account on a zillion, well okay, a few Windows computers with no problems, so I know I'm entering the right things. I actually did it over the phone with the people who host my server where my mail resides just to verify that I was correct. Anyone else have similar experiences? Any suggestions? Thanks. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac to PC network -- is it possible?
I would not consider a Linksys router for any reason. In fact if you were to invest in an Apple router you will get a device that is by far superior in security than Linksys routers. Linksys use to make some good stuff, but just not the case any longer. ALthough if you insist on buying a Linksys, I would go look at OpenWRT or one of the other firmware replacements for Linksys. On Apr 14, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Well, you are going to be using a router no matter what so none of your own computers need to be involved with sharing any internet connections. I personally recommend Linksys for home routers; most have a decent web interface for configuration and they have four hardware network ports plus you can get WIFI on them. So let the router do all the work and your computers and those of your parents can just co-exist on this single network. Oh, your mac will work just fine on a setup like this. My mac mini and linux laptop get on just fine with my Linksys router here. A lot of people like the Airport Extreme for use with their Macs but they are at least twice as expensive but they might support other Apple-centric features; not sure. On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:52:15AM -0400, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hi all, The subject describes my overall question but I'll provide some details so you have a better idea of what I'm looking at. Right now I have my computer upstairs in my room. If I got a Mac this year like I'm planning to, I'll still be living with my parents for another year and they use our home network to get the internet from my computer. Their PC is set up in the basement at the opposite end of the house so they're linked to my internet connection via network cable and d-link wifi router. My iPhone, laptop and fiancee's lap top all run the internet off of wifi thanks to the router as well. My question is, given all of these factors, can I create a network with a Mac replacing the main PC hooked up to the internet, which is what all other devices gain internet access from? Obviously I know my iPhone and Apple TV will connect but I just want to make sure that A) Any other non-Apple laptops/products can use the wifi and B) my parents computer will be able to share the internet connection via network cable if I'm using a Mac. The wifi signal just doesn't seem to be strong enough to reach the basement. One last question, I assume I'd need to buy a new router for the Mac to create a home network. If so, can someone recommend a router that works well with Macs? Thanks in advance! :) -Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tips for reading PDF documents on the Mac
Kirsten, I think the problem is simply poorly formatted tables. VO is not designed to try and reconstruct a table. I am not sure exactly how all this works, but WIndow-Eyes for example can look at a website that has tables and even when poorly constructed, (generally missing header tags), those tables can be navigated as a table. There is some backend process for using the table mode to make this work. Unfortunately there are a lot of very poorly done tables or processes for building those tables. So, all that to say I do not blame the screen reading technology so much as blaming the app/person who developed the table. I wondered if Fine Reader was accessible on the Mac and if it really provides anything that Preview cannot. So, will be curious about your experience. On Apr 11, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: From my investigations today, it seems that it does what most screen-readers do with columns. It puts everything vertically underneath everything. Thus, there are no columns. There are no differentiations between columns or cells, but you seem to need to remember which heading you want and work out which bit you want as a result. What I mean by this, is say, your table has 4 columns. It will always start with the four headings (underneath each other of course) and then you need to work through in your head, as you read and associate each item to its given heading and thus column. Although this is not the best way of doing it, it's better than reading half a line and half another line on one line, which is often what I've found happen when pages are split into undetectible columns. This causes issues because you have to try to make sense of two different sets of words which are not likely to be linked and remember them as you navigate line by line in order to read coherently. So, although this does not seem to be happening, and that is an improvement, I'm sorry to say there has been no amazing advancement. Tables in HTML are much more navigable as they have titles and a clear structure, and obvious breaks between columns. But when you turn a PDF into a safari-opened document, it doesn't have the HTML functionality and thus just reads the table as text rather than a separately navigable part of the page. I still have to invest in Fine Reader for Mac, but probably that will solve problems, in the mean-time, long-winded as it is, you either need to use your memory, or do what Rafael does and rescan a printed document. I wonder what it is about Kerzweil and Fine Reader that make tables possible, whilst VO and Jaws can't read PDF docs properly ... Kirsten. On 11 Apr 2012, at 17:51, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: The only solution I've found is to print out the document, and then to read it with my Kurzweil, since it is able to read by columns. Good luck with your efforts, and please keep the list apprised of any successes. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to be able to read multiple-column, pdf documents on my Mac. Cordially, Rafael On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: I haven't, but you raise a good point, I have never found it possible to read PDF columns properly with Jaws and used to have to use fine reader to translate into an MS Doc. The PDFs I am currently putting into Safari are mainly journal articles-they have some tables and I don't think those read properly, but I will try to remember to take a look at some PDFs in columns and see. I think we're likely to have little success however, as it's about translating graphical representation into words and a logical order to people-many of whom don't have a great concept of layout and formatting. On 9 Apr 2012, at 16:21, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: Those are very helpful suggestions. I wonder, though: Have you ever tried reading pdf documents formatted in multiple columns? I can do so using an old PowerPC iBook running Tiger, but I can't seem to do so with newer Macs and OSs. Cordially, Rafael Bejarano On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: Hi all, A few weeks ago, someone asked what was the best way of reading PDFs. I gave some vague response, and though I can't remember who asked, I know it comes up quite often, so, below I list more specific steps. I hope they help whoever wanted to know. 1. Find your document in your folder system. 2. Press VO-M and navigate to the File menu. 3. Go down to the Open With menu. 4. Arrow right and then down to Safari. 5. Leave the document to open-this might take some time if it is large for example-when it starts reading, arrow until you are in the window (rather than in the other web functions such as add to reading list etc). 6. Interact with the window with the VO-Down Arrow-Shift command. 7. If you want to read line by line, try to get your reading setting to 'navigation', otherwise when you use the down arrow,
Re: Finder Busy Finder Busy with Empty USB Drives!
Bill, Command-w closes the window. I am not sure that it would be fair to say APple is not interested in fixing the issue. There is a good chance that they are working the issue on their end and has not said anything or they simply do not have sufficient information to determine the underlying cause. I am experiencing an issue with my iPHone that I am pretty sure is or has affected others and I have been working with APple on/off in regards to the problem. THey have not resolved the problem yet, but I do not believe this is because they are not interested in resolving the problem. I can appreciate that at times it seems as though you are being ignored, but on the other hand I do not think this is always the case. On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Bill Holton wrote: Here's the workaround I use. First, turn off VO and then press command q to close that finder window. Then press command 2 to get into list mode. For me this problem seems to mostly happen in column view. Now that you're in list mode, try again. Let me know if this works. Apple has shown very little interest in solving this problem. You can also go to the drive on the main finder window. First, find a file, any file, and copy it to the clipboard. At the main finder window use the right click menu to call up the paste command. If you can get any file onto that drive it will then work fine and you canego from there. Let me know if either of these works. Bill BILL HOLTON Email:b...@bholton.com Direct: 386-624-6309 Homepage: www.bholton.com Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST DeLand, FL 32720 -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:25 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Finder Busy Finder Busy with Empty USB Drives! I think this is similar to Bill's empty DVD problems but I'm actually wondering what the solution is when I get into these situations. If I plug in a USB drive which happens to have no files yet, the finder goes into that damn busy stuff and I can't get out of it any way, any how. I always end up turning off the computer and power back up. Is there any other way to get out of those busy loops? Unplugging the drive did not help the situation. As soon as I copy a file on to that empty partition, then all is fine. What I do is go into the terminal and use the cp command to do this. I read Bill's message about deleting finder settings and then it straitens out for a bit but obviously, that doesn't sound like a good solution as his problem kept coming back. If I use Command O to open the drive, I also get the dreaded finder busy crap so How does one get out of this loop when you get caught in it? I could see this happening every time you stick in a blank USB stick or SD card or something. I sure hope Apple gets this serious bug fixed soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Any cheaper way to get a new charger that works with my somewhat older Macbook?
You might look at http://www.macsales.com which is Other WOrld Computing (OWC) I believe they have some chargers for under $30 USD, but check since I'm only going from memory and that is never a good thing. :) On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Brent Harding wrote: I found the 60 watt on there for $49.99. That's probably exactly the one I need for the early 08, which I found registered on that hard to find Apple site looking for other info. - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Any cheaper way to get a new charger that works with my somewhat older Macbook? I'm always interchanging power bricks and they all worked just fine. If you use a small low-wattage one it will run most laptops but you won't be able to charge your battery at the same time. Last time I needed to buy one was when my wife found one of the kids sucking on the plug. He was unharmed but the power supply never worked right after that. At the time I found a pretty good price at http://www.megamacs.com/ but they seem to be having some database issue at the moment. CB On 4/7/12 4:47 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: from the early intel macbooks, they were the same as the recent ones, with exception of wattage ratings. where abouts are you? I can look up a specialist refurbs place in the USA who carries older components. what I could do with is the machine serial number and then go from there. the system serial can be found through going to about this mac in the apple manu and then going to more info, this opens system profiler and you can get the system serial number and model from there. cheers. lew On 7 Apr 2012, at 21:44, Brent Harding wrote: Yeah, I just knew that there were L shaped and T shaped ones, and if you don't have the correct one, depending on the firmware in the machine, if you originally had the older one, that's all you could charge with, and I heard Apple doesn't make the old one now. Maybe I can get by with that plug, but there's probably plenty of them on Ebay. - Original Message - From: Lewis Alexanderfreemacsforthebl...@gmail.com To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Any cheaper way to get a new charger that works with my somewhat older Macbook? hi, the apple charger is pretty much a standard unit and there are no compatible products due to patent applications from apple preventing clones. an option or two open to you is ebay for a refurb or used pack or even an apple refurb company depending on where you are in the world. lew On 7 Apr 2012, at 21:21, Brent Harding wrote: Hi there. I have this Mac Book that I bought for a good deal some time in 2008 or 2009, that was upgraded and was only 6 months used at that time, if the guy ever did much with it besides keeping it around to sell. When I took it home to my parents' place once, I never noticed that the charger got in front of the car door, and some bracket snapped off. My dad was able to super glue it back together and it works here, but I might be getting a work experience where I might need to move it around from one outlet to another since it only goes about 90 minutes in Windows, and maybe a little more in Snow Leopard. From what I've read, a new one of these costs around $80 and may not work, depending if my machine successfully took a certain firmware update. Is there cheaper places to get one like the original one that I have so I don't find myself in a situation that a different kind doesn't charge the battery? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
Re: something to make it easier for you
Yuma, Thanks for sharing the script. I have been slowly working on learning APple scripting along with lots of other stuff. :) I am amazed at how much can be done with scripting. On Apr 11, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hi Guys, Just wanted to drop you guys a little script i made to help you with copy and pasting stuff from pdfs web or anything actually. The basic premise here is to copy whatever sentence paragraph or whatever text you have, use the copy last phrase to clipboard command and my script will automatically paste it to the end of your text editor window. This is very useful if you have long text that you want copied and pasted from pdf files just as they are supposed to be without wasting time on switching apps, reformatting etc. Here's the script: set thetext to get the clipboard tell application TextEdit set theindex to every paragraph of front document set thecount to count theindex set thecount to thecount + 1 set paragraph thecount of front document to thetext say pasted to text editor end tell Copy it all, paste it into your applescript editor which is /applications/utilitiesapplescript editor / The best thing to do next is to apply a gesture to the script. Here is how i do this: I have option one finger flick down to read the next sentence Option tow finger flick down for next paragraph Then i have option four finger flick left to copy last phrase to clipboard Lastly, i use option pinch out for running the script With this, every paragraph you want to copy is then pasted without switching to the text editor and back. I'll make a better version later on but if you want to play with this one already and test it out, be my guest :) I might make a short podcast to demonstrate how faast one's productivity can get with this technique Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Itines downloaded album and can't find it
I think she is just frustrated. I have been using itunes in both SL and Lion with great success. I am not sure I fully understand the problem, but when frustrated it is best to put these things aside until you are in a better frame of mind. Retiring a dog is never an easy thing, so put iTunes aside for the time. On Apr 8, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in Lion. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Libre and Open office
I think it is also worth pointing out that Apple is still working on the next release of the iWOrks suite and will no doubt address some of the accessibility issues that do exist. Overall I would say the entire suite is reasonably accessible and of course accessible is a little subjective as well. And we cannot forget that some of the perceived accessibility issues may relate to experience (or lack there of) in using the iWOrk applications. Not a negative comment, simply a point to be considered. On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi Anne. I agree that Pages and Numbers work just fine. In fact, I like them better than Word and Excel. Numbers accepts Excel formulas, but in many cases, you can use tyhe function of Insert plus Function. I love that. The other thing is that VoiceOver is not as complicated as, say, Jaws to set up the talking of the rows and columns. I did, however, have trouble Pages on tables because, although I although I got my columns of different widths to work within Pages, I found that if I exported the file to Word, the width of the columns got changed. In my case, I'm just not going to worry about it because I have a work around. If I had been just using Pages, things would have been just fine, and maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I think my tables would have worked find also if I had been printing them. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Steve, On 8 Apr 2012, at 11:02, Steve Holmes wrote: I hear about Pages and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here I'm so tired of repeating myself, but I use Pages all the time in my capacity as a professional translator. Any tables I find in a document I copy into Numbers so that I keep the formatting correct. I manipulate the table in Numbers, then copy it back into Pages. It doesn't take long and works fine. Like any decent office suite, iWork takes time to learn and people just haven't got the patience. Yes, there are problems with the iWork suite. A group of VO commands doesn't function such as looking for next colour change so I compensate for this by using TextEdit to read my source document, but I have no trouble formatting in Pages. I do think it's about time Apple brought out a new version of iWork. The current one is 3 years old and I'm afraid when they do, it's going to be more like the IOS version but I'll just have to wait and see. Anyway, to finish with iWork for the Mac, Keynote is also perfectly manageable for a totally blind person. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fujitsu SCANSNAP S1100
Has anyone used this scanner and can report on the accessibility of the included software? THanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
Yes the Refreshabraille 18 is working with iOS 5.1. I use it very frequently. On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from
Chat client that works with Office 2007
Folks, Our organization is still mainly windows-bound and a number of my coworkers use Microsoft Messenger (I think that is what it is called) some instant chat client that is bundled with the Office 2007 suite. I wanted to find something that would work on the Mac platform. The clowns at our IT helpless desk suggested I use Adium and Jabber, but that does not help me communicate with my coworkers who are clearly not using Jabber. THoughts? Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
I've been using ABBYY FineReader Express and find it meets most all of my needs. On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it worth it for them to do that. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's true that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on the scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I don't have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I ever went back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over what I have now. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: A Question Regarding OCR Hello Everyone, In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also obtained Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0. To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both OpenBook and the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the image acquisition experience. I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that allows one to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process. I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for me. I could go on and on but ... I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am wondering if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac. I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have put my scanner away for good. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
Ricardo, True and we also must remember that Apple is not able to track each time a blind/visually impaired user purchases a Mac because they aren't ordering it from a company that sells products to that community. YOu are buying your Mac from the Apple store etc. So, although APple has a pretty good idea of the number of VoiceOver users, they probably do not know the exact to the last person number. So, Apple does listen even if you think at times they are not. On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress is being made. If anyone has used safari with tiger or leopard, and compared that to snow leopard or Lion, they would see what I mean. lol. Or, even iWorks 2008 which was completely inaccessible, to iWorks 2009 which has some accessibility. That's why I urge everyone to write Apple sharing some of your thoughts in regards to topics like this. How else can we honestly expect Voiceover to improve without feedback. It doesn't matter how small, or insignificant the idea or complaint might be. Its been my experience that its the little things like adding a keystroke to check the time that really can enhance the user experience of a product. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I have not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. Hope this helps a bit. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hello there, It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is there any program for the Mac that is similar? I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! -Marc On 3/29/12, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Mark I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were not an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that choice of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer when I absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I haven't had much trouble with that. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochel...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post to MacVisionaries... be gentle. In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an
Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac
Correct, but one minor change to the steps. 1. open message. 2. VO-left arrow to access the headers. 3. Interact with headers via VO-shift-down arrow. 4. Use VO-arrow keys to find the sender's address. Note that you have to be on the sender's address and you may find it necessary to use VO-shift-left/right arrows to get on the address itself. SOunds tricky, but is not. 5. VO-shift-m to bring up the menu and there you will find all the options. Get stuck let me know. On Mar 31, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi, Can't verify this cause am on the iphone now but here are the steps: 1. Interact with message content, not with texxt of message. 2. vo to find headers. 3. interact with headers. 4. in this texxt find the from address and place vo on it. 5. Here you can invoke vo shift m. If you are not on the from address the reply to sender will not work I think. hth, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online stores. Sent from my phone On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, OK, I have tried to do this several times and still can't figure this out. Here's what I don't understand though. If you use command R it should only reply to the person that you got the message from I thought but that's not the case. When I try to VO left arrow from the message it won't do anything unless I stop interacting with the message and then it will but I can't get it to say anything about replying to sender. What am I missing? Thanks for your help. On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Jennifer, In the message area, VO-left-arrow once and you should hear message headers group. Interact with this, and it will behave as any other text area. From here, you can find the message header and then press VO-shift-m to bring up the contextual menu. From it, choose reply to sender and a new message to the original sender will open. You can tab and shift-tab to the to field to verify this. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi, Just got my Mac going again and am still very new to it. I'm not sure how to get to the headers field and finding what you said to find. I don't even know how to get to the To: field of the message. To navigate messages, I simply see the list and then use VO J to get to the message. I could still use some help. Thanks so much for your patience. On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: HI there, I tried to follow your instructions about deleting the list address from the to field but I only have that one appearing so if deleted I am left with nothing. Still the best way for me is to go to headers field and find the from field and from the shortcut menu select reply to sender. Thanks, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Jenny, There is no special trick to replying to only one person on a list. Please keep in mind that how this will be done will depend greatly upon how the Mailing List is configured said configuration being done by the Mailing List owner. In the case of the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries list, for example, both the Mailing List and the individual poster's email addresses are shown in the Header. This is a very good thing, in my opinion. So, when replying, simply jump to the To field and delete the Mailing List Address leaving only the individual poster's list. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mail to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Perdue Keller Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to everyone no matter what command I use. Help. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1. Thanks! -- Christopher Hallsworth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group.
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
This is an interesting idea and would be a nice data point to capture. On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: this has just triggered an idea and if there's anyone on list working for apple, an apple developer or beta tester, here's the idea. so that apple is more aware of who has purchased a mac, whenever you purchase a new mac, start up and register your mac, you should be able to fill in a questionnaire stating it's use, etc and if so include the option for disabled users including blind users. this way, each purchased system, or operating system or application supplied by apple logs details of blind users, so it gives apple a greater area of support to push for changes in voiceover and app support. just a thought on this. lew On 31 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Scott Howell wrote: Ricardo, True and we also must remember that Apple is not able to track each time a blind/visually impaired user purchases a Mac because they aren't ordering it from a company that sells products to that community. YOu are buying your Mac from the Apple store etc. So, although APple has a pretty good idea of the number of VoiceOver users, they probably do not know the exact to the last person number. So, Apple does listen even if you think at times they are not. On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress is being made. If anyone has used safari with tiger or leopard, and compared that to snow leopard or Lion, they would see what I mean. lol. Or, even iWorks 2008 which was completely inaccessible, to iWorks 2009 which has some accessibility. That's why I urge everyone to write Apple sharing some of your thoughts in regards to topics like this. How else can we honestly expect Voiceover to improve without feedback. It doesn't matter how small, or insignificant the idea or complaint might be. Its been my experience that its the little things like adding a keystroke to check the time that really can enhance the user experience of a product. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I have not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. Hope this helps a bit. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hello there, It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is there any program for the Mac that is similar? I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! -Marc On 3/29/12, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Mark I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
You know that is a good point and perhaps what would be interesting is when such data is shared and if that is included. I had forgotten about the diagnostic data which I also turned on for all devices. On Mar 31, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: I do not know for sure, but, since Apple send anonymous user data back to themselves from the OSx, assuming you've not said no to this, they probably have the diagnostics and reporting side of things let them know if your Mac or iOS device has Voice Over enabled or not... This would just make sense and is an obvious step for them to take. That way they have a definitive count... I have diagnostic and usage stats turned on for all three Mac's I own plus the two iPhones and 2 iPads that are here, all of these have Voice Over enabled, although 1 of the iPads and 1 iPhone have it toggled often on /off, I bet quite considerably that Apple know about this usage. D Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 Mar 2012, at 13:42, Lewis Alexander wrote: this has just triggered an idea and if there's anyone on list working for apple, an apple developer or beta tester, here's the idea. so that apple is more aware of who has purchased a mac, whenever you purchase a new mac, start up and register your mac, you should be able to fill in a questionnaire stating it's use, etc and if so include the option for disabled users including blind users. this way, each purchased system, or operating system or application supplied by apple logs details of blind users, so it gives apple a greater area of support to push for changes in voiceover and app support. just a thought on this. lew On 31 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Scott Howell wrote: Ricardo, True and we also must remember that Apple is not able to track each time a blind/visually impaired user purchases a Mac because they aren't ordering it from a company that sells products to that community. YOu are buying your Mac from the Apple store etc. So, although APple has a pretty good idea of the number of VoiceOver users, they probably do not know the exact to the last person number. So, Apple does listen even if you think at times they are not. On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress is being made. If anyone has used safari with tiger or leopard, and compared that to snow leopard or Lion, they would see what I mean. lol. Or, even iWorks 2008 which was completely inaccessible, to iWorks 2009 which has some accessibility. That's why I urge everyone to write Apple sharing some of your thoughts in regards to topics like this. How else can we honestly expect Voiceover to improve without feedback. It doesn't matter how small, or insignificant the idea or complaint might be. Its been my experience that its the little things like adding a keystroke to check the time that really can enhance the user experience of a product. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best of both worlds. I do not have a pc
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
Ah, well that makes sense and one expects some sort of learning curve when switching from one OS to another. WOUld be no different then if you were switching from one version of a software program to another when a number of new features are added. On Mar 31, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: My dad received a Mac for Christmas. He to finds it challenging, and he is sighted. It is a learning curve. On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: I agree with you totally. It was a challenge when I switched too, but lists like Mac visionaries helped a lot. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: THe greatest challenge in my opinion for someone who has used WIndows and a WIndows-based screen reader such as WIndow-EYes or JAWS is the effort in unlearning everything you previously learned. Like it or not and I'm not interested in creating a flamewar here, but reality is how you interact with windows and using a windows screen reader is simply different on so many levels as compared to a Mac. Everyone will have a learning curve that is unique to their individual level of experience, learning abilities, and so forth. If you truly are interested in making the switch you will have to dedicate yourself to the effort and understand that you do have to put aside the windows machine and submerse yourself in the Mac experience. Lots of people are sliders and I had to learn to be a slider since I use a Mac at work, but also have to use WIndows. So, it is quite possible, but you do have to make the decision and ask yourself why you want to switch to a Mac and accept that there will be challenges along the way. Most folks I know who have switched from windows (even sighted) do not regret the switch. I did not give my wife a choice, I had all I could stand trying to keep a windows machine up for her and my kid. I eventually forced them over to TIger and neither suffered as a result and actually took to the Mac OS just fine. :) On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I have not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. Hope this helps a bit. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hello there, It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is there any program for the Mac that is similar? I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! -Marc On 3/29/12, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Mark I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were not an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that choice of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer when I absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I haven't had much trouble with that. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
I'm sure you are correct that they do track this, but again it would be nice to know how and how that data is being aggregated. In other words, do they look only at the instances of VO being used or how often etc. All good data points. I am sure they do track this and I never thought they may not, but of course I have no idea of the extent. Of course this information helps Apple plan development. I certainly would find the info most interesting because I like stats such as these. On Mar 31, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Scott, If you go on your iPhone into Settings/Location Services/System Services, or whatever it is called at the very bottom, you'll note in their the diagnostic location thingie... this of course just relates to diagnostic tests requesting your location... but, its my belief that Apple send daily reports of usage and other such data from your various hardware items to themselves all but every day. Now of course there's nothing to worry about, its all anonymous, but, still, I have to thus believe that they know just how long my device has been on for each day, and indeed, how much of that time used Voice Over etc. I think it is rather nyeave to assume that they do not know how many folk use Voice Over on a regular bases. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 Mar 2012, at 17:36, Scott Howell wrote: You know that is a good point and perhaps what would be interesting is when such data is shared and if that is included. I had forgotten about the diagnostic data which I also turned on for all devices. On Mar 31, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: I do not know for sure, but, since Apple send anonymous user data back to themselves from the OSx, assuming you've not said no to this, they probably have the diagnostics and reporting side of things let them know if your Mac or iOS device has Voice Over enabled or not... This would just make sense and is an obvious step for them to take. That way they have a definitive count... I have diagnostic and usage stats turned on for all three Mac's I own plus the two iPhones and 2 iPads that are here, all of these have Voice Over enabled, although 1 of the iPads and 1 iPhone have it toggled often on /off, I bet quite considerably that Apple know about this usage. D Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 Mar 2012, at 13:42, Lewis Alexander wrote: this has just triggered an idea and if there's anyone on list working for apple, an apple developer or beta tester, here's the idea. so that apple is more aware of who has purchased a mac, whenever you purchase a new mac, start up and register your mac, you should be able to fill in a questionnaire stating it's use, etc and if so include the option for disabled users including blind users. this way, each purchased system, or operating system or application supplied by apple logs details of blind users, so it gives apple a greater area of support to push for changes in voiceover and app support. just a thought on this. lew On 31 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Scott Howell wrote: Ricardo, True and we also must remember that Apple is not able to track each time a blind/visually impaired user purchases a Mac because they aren't ordering it from a company that sells products to that community. YOu are buying your Mac from the Apple store etc. So, although APple has a pretty good idea of the number of VoiceOver users, they probably do not know the exact to the last person number. So, Apple does listen even if you think at times they are not. On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress is being made. If anyone has used safari with tiger or leopard, and compared that to snow leopard or Lion, they would see what I mean. lol. Or, even iWorks 2008 which was completely inaccessible, to iWorks 2009 which has some accessibility. That's why I urge everyone to write Apple sharing some of your thoughts in regards to topics like this. How else can we honestly expect Voiceover to improve without feedback
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
THe greatest challenge in my opinion for someone who has used WIndows and a WIndows-based screen reader such as WIndow-EYes or JAWS is the effort in unlearning everything you previously learned. Like it or not and I'm not interested in creating a flamewar here, but reality is how you interact with windows and using a windows screen reader is simply different on so many levels as compared to a Mac. Everyone will have a learning curve that is unique to their individual level of experience, learning abilities, and so forth. If you truly are interested in making the switch you will have to dedicate yourself to the effort and understand that you do have to put aside the windows machine and submerse yourself in the Mac experience. Lots of people are sliders and I had to learn to be a slider since I use a Mac at work, but also have to use WIndows. So, it is quite possible, but you do have to make the decision and ask yourself why you want to switch to a Mac and accept that there will be challenges along the way. Most folks I know who have switched from windows (even sighted) do not regret the switch. I did not give my wife a choice, I had all I could stand trying to keep a windows machine up for her and my kid. I eventually forced them over to TIger and neither suffered as a result and actually took to the Mac OS just fine. :) On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I have not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. Hope this helps a bit. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hello there, It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is there any program for the Mac that is similar? I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! -Marc On 3/29/12, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Mark I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were not an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that choice of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer when I absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I haven't had much trouble with that. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochel...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post to MacVisionaries... be gentle. In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five years for those with accessibility needs. They
Re: Lion or snow leperd
Nancy, personally I do not regret upgrading to Lion and at some point you will regret not keeping up with the JOneses. :) There are many reasons to consider upgrading and if you were to wait until Mountain Lion you would be fine. On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Nancy Wyman wrote: Hi everyone, Are you glad you updated to Lyon? Would you rather have stayed with Snow Leopard? I'm making a choice whether I should stay with Snow Leopard or update to lion I use voice over any feedback would be helpful Thanks Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac
If you are replying to someone on the list then that is where your message will go. In order to reply directly to someone you will need to put their address in the To: field. On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote: I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to everyone no matter what command I use. Help. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1. Thanks! -- Christopher Hallsworth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPad, iPhone, Mac for the blind
Eric, Tell ya what I have not seen anything that says it is truly 30% more than other hardware. However, even if that were true, I'd gladly pay 30% more for a product that is of a higher quality than most other similar devices on the market. In fact when you start to consider and compare the cost of a PC to a Mac the PC is less expensive. THis is partially because vendors such as Dell, HP, etc. get paid by vendors to install trial software etc. on the machines sold. There are a lot of things that help to reduce the price of PCs. Also, consider the fact that many handset manufacturers are practically giving phones away to move them. THe carriers subsidize the handsets and then there are the offers of by one get one free etc. APple does not have to make such deals and yet people will stil purchase the product. So, what does that tell you? Apple sets the price and if you want the product you will pay for it. If not, then you did not want that product. Hey I traded/sold a G4 Mini for $200 and it was about seven years old. Could you sell a seven-year old PC for about a third of its original value after seven years? Probably not. On Mar 27, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: ok, I concede the point. I still have the opine n that their equipment is at least 30% over priced. -eric On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Eric, Honestly I hear you, but I just do not agree. There are people out there who have other disabilities or have no disabilities at all and have the same issues as you. My point is Apple nor any company should be expected to subsidize anything for anyone and I am including myself. There are companies like Gizelle that takes older equipment and resells it. A lot of times you can get a very good deal on a machine. There are also other companies that do something similar. So, there are sources available, but I just see no reason for APple regardless of how much money they have to get into the business of providing machines at a reduced price for someone with a disability. I think your number exercise is leaving out the larger community of people with disabilities. YOu start adding in all the different types of disabilities you will see the cost would go up substantially. You know nothing is easy and we all have to work with what we have available to us. I never said it would be easy or seem fair, but if you have food to eat and a place to live I think you have the basic needs met. This whole idea of redistributing the wealth of companies and individuals is unreasonable and counterproductive, and that is what you are advocating. I think the fact that APple does not charge for VoiceOver is a considerable advantage because hey you aren't buying a $500 computer and tacking another chunk of change on top just to get a usable screen reader. I think that counts for something. :) On Mar 26, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: I realize this. the problem is that there is absolutely no possibility that I will ever be able to save up for one. I get $718 a month and between the rent, food and cell phone, I have nothing left. I actually have to borrow money each month just to pay the medications co-pay (that leaves me about $30 in the hole each month). this computer and 1 handheld radio are about the only things I own outright (and the computer is about 4 years old). now, if I were employed, I wouldn't even have these problems. I would be living in a slightly nicer place (outside of gang territory), paying my taxes, having real health insurance, and buying real food (not the cheap crap chock full of chemistry and virtually no food value). you are right, too, that apple doesn't HAVE TO reduce their prices. they could garner an even bigger share of the laptop and desktop markets if they did. they don't HAVE TO offer some discounts to those who are disabled, but they could and it wouldn't hurt their bottom line at all. Yes, I could save up only IF I were able to. hell, the internet I had to beg from a neighbor on a wireless node. so yeah, I have a lot on my plate that wouldn't be there otherwise. call me frustrated. I am stuck on a waiting list to get a hearing aid for my left ear. that has delayed my training program and continues to delay any possibility of becoming employed. so, unless something moves here, I take whatever I can get, where ever I can get it. here is a number crunching exercise for you. there are an estimated 25 million blind or visually impaired people in the US. if Apple where to *GIVE* each of us 1 fully equipped mac mini, it would cost less than $2.5 Billion and they would still make a profit on the deal in good publicity alone. that would still leave them with $113 Billion IN CASH laying around doing nothing. with that cash, Apple could buy ALL of hollywood (warner brothers, disney, universal studios, ILM and others) plus purchase 2
Re: iPad, iPhone, Mac for the blind
Eric, I don't know you or your financial situation beyond what you have said. However, I do understand how it can be difficult to make ends meet and how hard it is to save up and purchase something you want, but it is possible. There is no reason for APple to offer any product at a reduced price because of your disability. APple is a great company that has done amazing things, but APple is not a charity. Yes APple has lots of cash and the reason why APple has been successful is by using their money wisely and other companies should maybe take a page from APple's playbook and they could be in a good financial place. I mean no offense Eric, but I get a little worked up when I read messages making statements such as those you made. Blind people like any other group of individuals with a disability need opportunity not charity, A hand up not a hand out, and no matter if you have a disability or not it is up to you to determine your financial priorities so that you can purchase the things you want. Note that you does not refer to you as Eric. :) On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: I really wish there was a financing program for the blind when it comes to mac hardware (laptops, desktops, iPad, iPhone). given that I (and a great many others) am living on a disability income (more than 85% of the blind in the US are), I find it nearly impossible to save up for any equipment. Hell, I had to make my own Hackintosh and load it with a store purchased copy of snow leopard. It cost me $30 for the OS and about $400 to assemble the machine. at minimum, I would have to spend nearly twice that much for a comparably equipped mac mini and almost $1500 or more for a reasonably powerful macbook pro/air. given that I have to spend my money on medications, rent and food, there is no way I can even save up for one at all. there used to be a free macs for the blind charity in Great Britain, but the person running that organization was forced to give it up as there were too many problems involved. We need something like that here in North America, but I just don't see that happening. I tried to query Apple about doing something like this and was given the polite brush off (thats nice kid, here is a soda. now go over in the corner.). hell, they have $115 Billion in CASH laying around they are not using. they could earn themselves a lot of good publicity if they offered some macs to the blind at a vastly discounted rate. it would also give them an in to a market they don't currently have. anyway, time for me to climb down off the soapbox. -eric On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: one thing that I can note that is not seeming to be mentioned is the fact that there ar certain Apps which are not available on iPhone / iPod Touch, yet, that are found on the iPad. The iPad from my prespective is purely for consumption, and I use it for news papers, which 4 of which are not found on the iPhone, and 5 are on the iPhone, but, only as reduced versions. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 24 Mar 2012, at 08:43, David Hole wrote: hi folks. I just wonder, and many here have asked, so I thought I'd ask you in this group. What's the benefit for blind people to have an iPad instead of an iPhone? I mean, as far as I can see, the difference is only the screen size... Am I right? Actually I'd like to have one myself, but I can't find any good reasons to have it, since I have both an iPhone and a Mac. Hope someone here can give me reasons to get one :p Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: iPad, iPhone, Mac for the blind
a little hand up to owning some real tools. -eric On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Eric, I don't know you or your financial situation beyond what you have said. However, I do understand how it can be difficult to make ends meet and how hard it is to save up and purchase something you want, but it is possible. There is no reason for APple to offer any product at a reduced price because of your disability. APple is a great company that has done amazing things, but APple is not a charity. Yes APple has lots of cash and the reason why APple has been successful is by using their money wisely and other companies should maybe take a page from APple's playbook and they could be in a good financial place. I mean no offense Eric, but I get a little worked up when I read messages making statements such as those you made. Blind people like any other group of individuals with a disability need opportunity not charity, A hand up not a hand out, and no matter if you have a disability or not it is up to you to determine your financial priorities so that you can purchase the things you want. Note that you does not refer to you as Eric. :) On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: I really wish there was a financing program for the blind when it comes to mac hardware (laptops, desktops, iPad, iPhone). given that I (and a great many others) am living on a disability income (more than 85% of the blind in the US are), I find it nearly impossible to save up for any equipment. Hell, I had to make my own Hackintosh and load it with a store purchased copy of snow leopard. It cost me $30 for the OS and about $400 to assemble the machine. at minimum, I would have to spend nearly twice that much for a comparably equipped mac mini and almost $1500 or more for a reasonably powerful macbook pro/air. given that I have to spend my money on medications, rent and food, there is no way I can even save up for one at all. there used to be a free macs for the blind charity in Great Britain, but the person running that organization was forced to give it up as there were too many problems involved. We need something like that here in North America, but I just don't see that happening. I tried to query Apple about doing something like this and was given the polite brush off (thats nice kid, here is a soda. now go over in the corner.). hell, they have $115 Billion in CASH laying around they are not using. they could earn themselves a lot of good publicity if they offered some macs to the blind at a vastly discounted rate. it would also give them an in to a market they don't currently have. anyway, time for me to climb down off the soapbox. -eric On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: one thing that I can note that is not seeming to be mentioned is the fact that there ar certain Apps which are not available on iPhone / iPod Touch, yet, that are found on the iPad. The iPad from my prespective is purely for consumption, and I use it for news papers, which 4 of which are not found on the iPhone, and 5 are on the iPhone, but, only as reduced versions. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 24 Mar 2012, at 08:43, David Hole wrote: hi folks. I just wonder, and many here have asked, so I thought I'd ask you in this group. What's the benefit for blind people to have an iPad instead of an iPhone? I mean, as far as I can see, the difference is only the screen size... Am I right? Actually I'd like to have one myself, but I can't find any good reasons to have it, since I have both an iPhone and a Mac. Hope someone here can give me reasons to get one :p Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: iPad, iPhone, Mac for the blind
Lew, You are limited to the USB devices you can attach. However, the most significant difference is the interface of apps. There are certainly situations where having the larger real estate can make a difference and conversely less real estate can be advantageous . The whole issue will come down to what works best for you and your workflow. I have both devices and use both devices. There are cases where having the larger screen which allows for a different interface can make things more efficient. So, you may not believe you need an iPad and that is fine, but having the tools available and having the option is great. On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:52 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: let's compare the iphone 4s against an ipad 3... first off, the obvious feature is a much larger display on the ipad. this as a feature gives you much more room to work on applications. taking into an example of pages or anything like that. try performing those tasks on an iphone and you'll be interacting with objects you don't want because you would require a much higher degree of tactile accuracy to interact with an item compared to a larger surface area on the ipad. The available memory, processor and GPU are of a higher specification to my understanding, in terms of interconnectivity with 3rd party products, you can add interfaces like USB adaptors, audio interfaces, camera adaptors and more as both the ipad and OS support those features to work with certain apps. the list really is endless. The iPad is an amazing product to work with as a tactile interface. I go back to the days of using graphics tablets in my research on Human User Interfacing for IT needs in a disabled world and testing the same practicalities and adaptations which the iPad and iPhone both give these functions straight away. at the end of the day, what you have to ask yourself is.. Do you want to use applications in a more fluid and effective way? if so, the answer is Yes please and fly out and grab an iPad 3. I'm no salesman. I have experience with both iPads and iphones and I'd rather be the owner of an iPad to run apps with and use the iphone as a phone and note taker. simple as that my friends. simple as that... lew On 24 Mar 2012, at 08:43, David Hole wrote: hi folks. I just wonder, and many here have asked, so I thought I'd ask you in this group. What's the benefit for blind people to have an iPad instead of an iPhone? I mean, as far as I can see, the difference is only the screen size... Am I right? Actually I'd like to have one myself, but I can't find any good reasons to have it, since I have both an iPhone and a Mac. Hope someone here can give me reasons to get one :p Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?
Neil, Ok, sorry if I misunderstood your message. Btw, I understand that Drobo has gone to some sort of magnetic solution for the door flap. Which Netgear did you choose? I am not as familiar with their products, but I would be curious how accessible is the interface and what made you choose the Netgear. THe WD's interface is really tricky just because of the fact it refreshes at odd times and things just behave in a really curious way. :) THanks, On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Scott, Absolutely, it was not my intention to say that, just bevause it is not accessible, we should give up on it... Or like wise, as it is expensive. The DroBo is a good product, when it was unique in the market place, as in the Beyond RAID technology and the hot swap drive solution it was worth every penny. Now though most venders have a solution that is comparable, and in every case I've found, notably cheaper too. I have bought 4 DroBo's over my time, they are nice units in terms of the actual box, very Apple-essk in their feel and build. I do have issues with the drive bay flaps, which cover the bays when not in use, these are poorly made fin bits of plastic that are easily broken off, and have a single sided flimsy bit of metal to make them spring mounted. The NetGear on the other hand is entirely metal, and far better build quality, and is more feature rich... With droBo you have to choose either a FS (file server) or an iScsi connection, or USB. The NetGear ReadyNAS solutions at the higher end of their range, which are still half the price of the DroBo equivalent, has two RJ45 connections for both FS and iScsi duel interface, as well as a host of other options. Anyway, I'm not here to sell you a NetGear solution, but can tell you that it works, and is notably more cost effective than a DroBo. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 21 Mar 2012, at 23:13, Scott Howell wrote: Neil I hear you, but there is no reason not to explore the possibility to make the dashboard accessible as well. I have a WD solution that has a pretty difficult html interface and it gets the job done as well. However, I would certainly not discourage anyone from using a solution just because of the price or interface if that is what they really wanted to use. I do not know much about the Net Gear products, but I assume they allow you to hotswap drives as well? On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: No, the DroBo dash board is not accessible, from both an accessibility and cost point, the NetGear ReadyNAS appliances are both accessible, using an HTML based interface, but also far cheaper and just as reliable in my experience. They also take advantage of a sort of expandable flexible RAID solution NetGear call X-RAID, essentially the same as Beyond RAID which DroBo uses. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 20 Mar 2012, at 22:35, Scott Howell wrote: All, I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the Dashboard. I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?
Doug, I make no promises and I cannot even tell you what will come of this. However, I have been working through a vendor who has connected me to a nice young lady named Abby at Drobo and she is going to start researching things on her end. I would love to have some resources on how Java-based apps can be made accessible. I suspect the reason they went this route is to be cross-platform compatible. THe more folks I know that want access to the Drobo, the more likely I can make some headway because it is all about the level of demand and the potential market for these products. On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Skott, As of this writing Drobo Dashboard is not accessible. When you launch the program VoiceOver does not see the program's controls. It would be nice if we could get in contact with the developer and get them to do something about this problem. I havent been able to update a Drobo FS in months because of this Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2012-03-20, at 8:05 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: All, I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the Dashboard. I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?
Neil I hear you, but there is no reason not to explore the possibility to make the dashboard accessible as well. I have a WD solution that has a pretty difficult html interface and it gets the job done as well. However, I would certainly not discourage anyone from using a solution just because of the price or interface if that is what they really wanted to use. I do not know much about the Net Gear products, but I assume they allow you to hotswap drives as well? On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: No, the DroBo dash board is not accessible, from both an accessibility and cost point, the NetGear ReadyNAS appliances are both accessible, using an HTML based interface, but also far cheaper and just as reliable in my experience. They also take advantage of a sort of expandable flexible RAID solution NetGear call X-RAID, essentially the same as Beyond RAID which DroBo uses. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 20 Mar 2012, at 22:35, Scott Howell wrote: All, I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the Dashboard. I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Western Digital My BOok Live Duo and ssh
So, Needless to say the WD web interface is not very well done and in fact has irritated me in many ways. So, I had initially setup the device and was able to access it via ssh. However, recently I am no longer able to access the WD via ssh and I continue to get a Permission denied message. So, before I take the extreme measure of wiping the WD out and starting over I thought I would ask if anyone has encountered the problem and may have a suggestion how to get around it. Btw, I have ssh enabled and I cannot access it via root or as a user on the device. THanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?
All, I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the Dashboard. I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Western Digital My BOok Live Duo and ssh
Well an update on the WD ssh issue. I was able to get in via root, but apparently individual users cannot gain access to the device. On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Scott Howell wrote: So, Needless to say the WD web interface is not very well done and in fact has irritated me in many ways. So, I had initially setup the device and was able to access it via ssh. However, recently I am no longer able to access the WD via ssh and I continue to get a Permission denied message. So, before I take the extreme measure of wiping the WD out and starting over I thought I would ask if anyone has encountered the problem and may have a suggestion how to get around it. Btw, I have ssh enabled and I cannot access it via root or as a user on the device. THanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?
Well for grins I went ahead and downloaded the Drobo dashboard and it is not accessible and probably because it is java-based. On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the Dashboard. I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a Problem or bug with the I phone 4S
Kawal, I have not experienced this particular issue myself. I would certainly send a note to accessibil...@apple.com, so they can capture the issue in the event others report such. On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello All. It's quite late here so I hope my message is going to make sense! Using my I phone 4S on Saturday afternoon the 17th of March, I received a call which I dealt with. However, once theconversation was over and I did a double tap with two fingers taking the phone away from my ear, holding the phone in front of me, Voice Over remained in the ear piece, (like it does when you have used Skype on the I phone) although I don't know if this is an issue still, those of you will know that you either have to switch off the phone or quit Skype for Voice Over to come back on the main speaker, well, this happened and what ever I did after the call, Voice Over remained in the ear piece until I rebooted the phone. Has this happened to any one else? I hope this message is making sense and I'm not confusing any one. If this happened to any one, please let me know or if any one could write a bug report for me (if any one is bug reporting to Apple), I'd very much appreciate any one's assistance with this issue. I'm sorry that this message is lengthy. Thank you in advance and your patience for reading. Best wishes. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
CalcMadeEasy
CalcMadeEasy was mentioned a while back on the list and I found it to be a very nice calculator for $2.99 USD because of the features it offers. You can get more on this app at tell application Finder if not (disk TimeMachine exists) then mount volume afp://username:password@192.168.1.10/TimeMachine end if end tell The developer, Lalit, just released an update which made the app fully accessible as far as I can determine. The iOS versions of this app are also accessible. Description from the Mac App store: CalcMadeEasy is versatile app which makes it easy to do financial planning/decision making, scientific/RPN calculations, unit conversions and notes. Its like 4 apps in 1 at one low price, NO extra packages to purchase later. Its bigger size display/buttons, full support to keyboard/mouse, auto notes and other goodies make it exceptional choice to replace stock calculator. Once start using this, you won’t go to other calculator. It has built-in auto-note taking capabilities which will automatically record you calculations. Salient Features- ** Financial Calculations: Useful tool to help you in financial decision making and planning - - Planning for new home or car -or- just trying to save money by refinancing current loan? - Amortization schedule generation for loan to understand detail portions of payments. - Want to know how much home or car you can afford? - Want to know how much you need to save monthly to achieve long term monetary goal? - Check how much interest you are going to pay over the period of loan. - And much more... With auto-note taking option, all inputs and output can be noted and can be shared with others to make better decisions/planning. 1. Automobile: Auto Loan, Auto Affordability, Loan vs Lease, Cash back vs Low interest. 2. Business: Margin, Markup, Selling price and Cost calculations. 3. General: Tip, Shopping Discount. 4. Investment: Bond Calculator, Present value, Future value, Rate of Return 5. Mortgage: Loan, Advanced Loan (Extra Payments, Balloon), Affordability, Refinance 6. Saving: Saving, Saving Goal ** Units Conversions: Dealing with multiple units, traveling abroad or friends and family in other country? No problem, unit conversions can help. Currently it supports conversions for 1. Area 2. Length 3. Mass 4. Power 5. Pressure 6. Speed 7. Temperature 8. Time 9. Volume. ** Calculator: Supports all general scientific and math calculations, RPN mode, option to access universal constants. Multiple themes. Check function to verify operands and operators. Access to past values. Innovative RPN mode with direct access to stack. Display modes: Normal/Scientific/Engineering. ** Notepad: App has auto-note taking capability (which can be disabled in settings). This allows you to share your calculations with friends and family without any extra efforts. This is very useful for financial calculations. You can also add custom content to notes. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: CalcMadeEasy
Hey Yuma no problem. Wow, what the hell is a piece of script doing in my message? :) I think I had something stuck in the clipboard and I could swear there was a URL. So, here is the URL for CalcMadeEasy. Check that, I cannot get the link from the Mac App store app. I see the problem now which is the Copy Link option in the popup does not copy the link to the clipboard. H, this seems to be a bug indeed. On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Scott Howell wrote: CalcMadeEasy was mentioned a while back on the list and I found it to be a very nice calculator for $2.99 USD because of the features it offers. You can get more on this app at tell application Finder The developer, Lalit, just released an update which made the app fully accessible as far as I can determine. The iOS versions of this app are also accessible. Description from the Mac App store: CalcMadeEasy is versatile app which makes it easy to do financial planning/decision making, scientific/RPN calculations, unit conversions and notes. Its like 4 apps in 1 at one low price, NO extra packages to purchase later. Its bigger size display/buttons, full support to keyboard/mouse, auto notes and other goodies make it exceptional choice to replace stock calculator. Once start using this, you won’t go to other calculator. It has built-in auto-note taking capabilities which will automatically record you calculations. Salient Features- ** Financial Calculations: Useful tool to help you in financial decision making and planning - - Planning for new home or car -or- just trying to save money by refinancing current loan? - Amortization schedule generation for loan to understand detail portions of payments. - Want to know how much home or car you can afford? - Want to know how much you need to save monthly to achieve long term monetary goal? - Check how much interest you are going to pay over the period of loan. - And much more... With auto-note taking option, all inputs and output can be noted and can be shared with others to make better decisions/planning. 1. Automobile: Auto Loan, Auto Affordability, Loan vs Lease, Cash back vs Low interest. 2. Business: Margin, Markup, Selling price and Cost calculations. 3. General: Tip, Shopping Discount. 4. Investment: Bond Calculator, Present value, Future value, Rate of Return 5. Mortgage: Loan, Advanced Loan (Extra Payments, Balloon), Affordability, Refinance 6. Saving: Saving, Saving Goal ** Units Conversions: Dealing with multiple units, traveling abroad or friends and family in other country? No problem, unit conversions can help. Currently it supports conversions for 1. Area 2. Length 3. Mass 4. Power 5. Pressure 6. Speed 7. Temperature 8. Time 9. Volume. ** Calculator: Supports all general scientific and math calculations, RPN mode, option to access universal constants. Multiple themes. Check function to verify operands and operators. Access to past values. Innovative RPN mode with direct access to stack. Display modes: Normal/Scientific/Engineering. ** Notepad: App has auto-note taking capability (which can be disabled in settings). This allows you to share your calculations with friends and family without any extra efforts. This is very useful for financial calculations. You can also add custom content to notes. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Netflix forIPhone
I cannot think of when Netflix acknowledged they broke the app in the past, so I'm not so sure this is typical. On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: The typical answer. Hopefully they fix it soon. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Netflix is aware they broke the app and apparently a fix is in the works. On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: Hi All,I am new to the group. I recently purchased the Iphone 4s. So far I have had great success getting everything set up. However, I noticed that after I updated Netflix, that it no longer is accessible. Has anyone found a solution for this? Thanks Jamie Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Netflix forIPhone
ANd that probably is somewhat a true statement. Assuming they get the fix then they have to wait for Apple to approve. I imagine like most larger organizations it will take them time to affect a fix. On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: Very true. What I meant was that is the typical corperate answer. We messed up, and we will fix it soon with no date for a fix. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot think of when Netflix acknowledged they broke the app in the past, so I'm not so sure this is typical. On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: The typical answer. Hopefully they fix it soon. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Netflix is aware they broke the app and apparently a fix is in the works. On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: Hi All,I am new to the group. I recently purchased the Iphone 4s. So far I have had great success getting everything set up. However, I noticed that after I updated Netflix, that it no longer is accessible. Has anyone found a solution for this? Thanks Jamie Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Netflix forIPhone
Netflix is aware they broke the app and apparently a fix is in the works. On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: Hi All,I am new to the group. I recently purchased the Iphone 4s. So far I have had great success getting everything set up. However, I noticed that after I updated Netflix, that it no longer is accessible. Has anyone found a solution for this? Thanks Jamie Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Airport Utility to set up AE?
Best to use a wired connection for the initial setup On Mar 13, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Traci wrote: Hey all, Is it safe secure to use airport utility to set up my new airport extreme? I thought it was usually better to set things up with a wired connection. Of course, on my macbook air, there is no ethernet port. Thanks for the getting started assistance. I've been reading the manual, and it mostly talks about using airport utility. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: External Drive Partition Help
What partitioning scheme are you trying to achieve? On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Hello everyone, I have a question about partitioning an external hard drive. I have looked at some documentation describing how to use disk utility with voiceover, but it has not helped. I thought I found a solution to my problem, by adding volume partitions manually and then adjusting the settings respectively. When adding each partition the size for each partition decreases. For example: P1 = 1.00 TB P2 = 1.50 TB, and P3 = 500.00 GB. I have a 3TB external SeaGate. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you wish to message me off list anyone can do so. Thanks. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Disregard Disk Partition Help Message
Glad you got that sorted. I was not sure what you wanted to do, but sounds like you got a handle on things. On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Hello guys, Please disregard the last message I posted asking about disk partitioning. I figured out the steps from a post I did not see before. Sorry for the clutter - cheers. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
Traci, Your windows machine will work fine. I am not sure I understand the purpose of entering your user ID and password to access the printer. So, if this is a printer that services multiple machines (because it is a network printer) then there will be no difference in how you access it today when you bring the AirPort online. On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:46 AM, Traci wrote: Thanks all, So, the Airport Extreme sounds more and more tempting. I've been doing further reading tonight and have some more questions. One thing we'll need is to use our wireless printer. I see websites mentioning connecting USB printers, but how about our wireless one? If I remember correctly, we don't usually connect it at all. We enter in our wireless user name and password into the printer. Should this work the same way with the Airport Extreme? Lastly. we have a windows laptop that will be using the wireless. Does the airport extreme work seamlessly with windows as well? Thanks again, :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: There are more reasons to go with an AirPort router over any other model. There are security reasons among many more. I cannot recommend Linksys routers as they are not nearly as secure as Apple routers. I'm sure many will not agree, but you go with an APple router and you will not regret the extra expense. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Antivirus for mac
Hey Lew, I thought the Sophos site offered some interesting info and glad they still support the software. I would be curious what if any differences there are and if one may be more effective over the other. I will also ask around and see if I can get some questions answered and will share what I learn. I'm always interested in keeping up with what is going on in the world of viruses etc. Perhaps not a significant issue for a Mac today, but one can never be to ready. :) Besides we should be considerate of our windows friends. :) On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: haven't used clam AV but will check it out. There are some voiceover hickups in sophos but I use it as a trusted product from back in the day when sophos was corporate antivirus. cheers lew On 10 Mar 2012, at 01:40, Scott Howell wrote: Hi Lew, Just curious if you have used the ClamAV product and how you feel this compares to the Sophos product. THanks, On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: yep, there's some good free antivirus software I recommend. sophos antivirus for mac. it's constantly updated and very stable. voiceover friendly from my experience in OS 10.6. if you get lost, let me know and I'll find the link for it for you. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 11:48, Hendrik Steyn wrote: Hello Everyone Is there antivirus software out there that works with Voiceover? I recently became part of a large home network and I don’t want my mac to be in the “passdown chain”. Any help appreciated. Kindly Hendrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
There are more reasons to go with an AirPort router over any other model. There are security reasons among many more. I cannot recommend Linksys routers as they are not nearly as secure as Apple routers. I'm sure many will not agree, but you go with an APple router and you will not regret the extra expense. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes crashing all the time now
Ray you are making a blanket statement here. I upgraded to iTunes 10.6 and I am not experiencing any problems at all. So, I doubt Apple did anything. I suspect there is another issue specific to you. On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I sware, Apple has really gone and screwed up ITunes big time. Now, I cannot even navigate up or down in source lists. I don't know What apple did; but, what ever it was, version 10.6 really sucks. It's not even usable basically anymore. About the only thing I can think to try next is delete the ~/Library/Preferences/ComAppleITunes.plst and the ~/Library/Preferences/ITunes/Help.ppsl files or what ever the heck they are. I'm been fooling with this damn thing all night and I've about had it!!! Sorry folks, but, this time, it looks like Apple's just made things a lot worse. I'm so completely not going to reinstall my entire OS over this!!! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
I have not seen this bug. On Mar 9, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey guys. I've noticed another bug in IOS 5.1. Whenever I get a push notification or a text message, when the screen is locked, VO doesn't read me the notification at times. Wonder why this is the case. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Antivirus for mac
Hi Lew, Just curious if you have used the ClamAV product and how you feel this compares to the Sophos product. THanks, On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: yep, there's some good free antivirus software I recommend. sophos antivirus for mac. it's constantly updated and very stable. voiceover friendly from my experience in OS 10.6. if you get lost, let me know and I'll find the link for it for you. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 11:48, Hendrik Steyn wrote: Hello Everyone Is there antivirus software out there that works with Voiceover? I recently became part of a large home network and I don’t want my mac to be in the “passdown chain”. Any help appreciated. Kindly Hendrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Ricardo, I have not been able to reproduce this problem of unlocking and quickly touching something to make it launch. Very curious for sure. On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Yup. There is 1 little bug I've noticed. After unlocking the phone, if you quickly press anywhere on the screen, I mean before the last app you were on is announced by voiceover, an item in your dock is launched. Very odd. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 8, 2012, at 3:56 AM, Mr. L. Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com wrote: IOS 5.1 also enhances stability on the iphone 3GS. with IOS 5, every operation required extra processing time and voiceover lag. with IOS 5.1, this is virtually eliminated. I have also noticed some voiceover modifications since last as you say ric, including the slide to reply instruction, etc, also an icon for the camera in the lock screen I had heard about on last night's apple keynote address. which was nice :) Will see how IOS 5.1 behaves and also check if there's updates to XCode. lew On 8 Mar 2012, at 07:39, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did. There isn't much to really say about it so far. My battery life seems to be a little better on my 4S. I'm not having the overnight drain of 4 to 7% like I was. I noticed on the lock screen, it says slide to view or, slide to reply with every notification displayed. I have to play around with it a little more to really see whats what. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Mike Malarsie michael.malar...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone update to 5.1 yet? Any details? Mike Malarsie On Mar 7, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi guys Is it normal that these two programs do not speak what you type and seem to conflict with VO? I thought they were a bit more accessible than pages. Did I misunderstand this? Thanks. Becky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mi fi question:hello all,
You may not see the benefit for you; however, you have to consider the types of applications you would be using. This surely is not the only example, but I for one find reading Mail on the iPad to be a much better experience because of the real estate. I find reading articles with apps such as Feeddler Pro to be a little more pleasant. In this case size does make a difference because of the increased real estate. On the other hand I also have an iPhone and I use it a great deal and there are apps I prefer to use based on the smaller size. So, it really depends on what your tasks are. On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:04 AM, CJ Daniel wrote: Jenna, I have the iPhone 4 an Apple Macbook. For the life of me, I can't figure outt why, if I have the iPhone, would I want the iPad as well? As far as I know, they're run the same IOS , far the most part, the same applications. True, you have a larger display I guess this would help for people with low vision. But, other than that I can't see enough of advantage to warrant the expenditure for those who already have an iPhone. Just my two cents I'm sure others will have varying opinions. I'd be interested in hearing them. Good luck with your decision have fun in Dallas this summer, CJ On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: i am going to be purchasing the latest i-pad at the beginning of june before i head off to dallas texas for national federation of the blinds national convention on june, 3o/ july, 7/12. i do not want to pay the 45 dollars that att charges for teathering. i was told by apple inc that if i purchased an mi fi box for my i-pad with just wi fi and not wi fi and 3.g. added to it. that it would be much more cheeper for me in the long run. furthermore, i wanted to know if this device is worth my time and money? also is it on the expensive side? thank you so much for your time i most greatly appreciate it. sincerely, chenelle. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
I'm not sure this is a bug. In fact I rather like the fact it will speak the time. So, how is this a bug? On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: Hi, Does anyone see this bug where if you get a notification, you don't respond to it or whatever, it stays unlocked for a few seconds, it will say the time and then lock the screen. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 msn and aim: matt...@live.com skype: blindman3221 On 2012-03-08, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I really thought I had broken my iPhone last night. My husband was already asleep since it was real late at night, so I couldn't ask him if there was anything on the screen. He had already updated his iPhone with no problem. I did ok until the last thing. It said it was going to restart the phone. Maybe it did, I don't know because it didn't restart VoiceOver. Good thing for triple click home, or I would have been in trouble. It finally occurred to me to press it, although I thought the phone had gone bye bye. I haven't yet run into the bug you guys are talking about, but I'll be warned about that now. Speaking of 5.1, last night I checked out the intro to the new iPad. Did you guys know that Apple added dictation like on the iPhone 4S? I had to hear all about the new display that my husband will probably adore before they got to the part 1@ wanted to hear. I knew that was going to happen, but I'm keeping up with the changes to the iPad these days. Since Apple is also lowering the price of the iPad 2 like they said yesterday, it wouldn't be worth it to me to have one of the new ones, except for that dictation feature. Regards, Gigi On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Yup. There is 1 little bug I've noticed. After unlocking the phone, if you quickly press anywhere on the screen, I mean before the last app you were on is announced by voiceover, an item in your dock is launched. Very odd. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 8, 2012, at 3:56 AM, Mr. L. Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com wrote: IOS 5.1 also enhances stability on the iphone 3GS. with IOS 5, every operation required extra processing time and voiceover lag. with IOS 5.1, this is virtually eliminated. I have also noticed some voiceover modifications since last as you say ric, including the slide to reply instruction, etc, also an icon for the camera in the lock screen I had heard about on last night's apple keynote address. which was nice :) Will see how IOS 5.1 behaves and also check if there's updates to XCode. lew On 8 Mar 2012, at 07:39, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did. There isn't much to really say about it so far. My battery life seems to be a little better on my 4S. I'm not having the overnight drain of 4 to 7% like I was. I noticed on the lock screen, it says slide to view or, slide to reply with every notification displayed. I have to play around with it a little more to really see whats what. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Mike Malarsie michael.malar...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone update to 5.1 yet? Any details? Mike Malarsie On Mar 7, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi guys Is it normal that these two programs do not speak what you type and seem to conflict with VO? I thought they were a bit more accessible than pages. Did I misunderstand this? Thanks. Becky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Quickenn 2007
All, I was wondering if anyone had tried the new Quickenn 2007 for Lion and if so was it accessible? I happen across an article and I thought at one time someone had tried Quickenn and found it to be somewhat accessible. Of course I may be recalling incorrectly. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: using crossover
As far as I know it is not accessible. You would be better off going with VMWare's Fusion and stay away from Parallels. On Mar 6, 2012, at 1:03 AM, julieledingham wrote: hi, does anyone use Crossover with the mac? is it accessible? work are about to buy me a mac and I want to be able to have windows installed (for the rare things - like sharing of endnote libraries) and my sighted friend suggested I use crossover instead of parallels do you know if it works. also has anyone used mendaly as a reference management tool - again is it accessible? thanks Julie Sent from my iPad On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:34, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics the messages beta [7 Updates] Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox! [5 Updates] Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion [7 Updates] instructions on how to use pages with voice over? [2 Updates] LibreOffice 3.5.0 [1 Update] accessible world classrooms [2 Updates] multipart archives [1 Update] the messages beta Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com Feb 16 11:27AM -0500 Hi all. I've just played briefly with the messages public beta and everything looks great. One thing that's really rad is that you can easily put emojies in to you're messages without having to jump through any hoops. The best part of this is that VoiceOver reads the different emojies. Hope you find this useful, Matthew Campbell. Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Feb 16 11:32AM -0500 Where do you get this beat? Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2012-02-16, at 11:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Feb 16 11:39AM -0500 Its on the Apple site. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Feb 16 08:41AM -0800 What if you're still purring along with the snow kitty? Will snow kitty play with the messages beta? Hmmm. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Feb 16 12:02PM -0500 Hi, no. You must be running Lion. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Feb 16 09:10AM -0800 I wonder if I can go from 10.6.8 to 10.8--seems to make more sense to wait for the mountain kitty at this point. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com Feb 16 12:26PM -0500 Hi. I found a direct download link on Macrumors. On 2012-02-16, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox! John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com Feb 15 05:09PM -0500 Absolutely. If you can get a monitor, that is obviously the easiest solution. In my situation, I don't have the space for a monitor with the current setup. So, the converter box and adaptor fit the bill. However, I do have a monitor around in case I need sighted assistance. I just wanted folks to know that there is a setup that will work if they don't have a monitor and that Apple is not completely aware that the newer Minis still can't work well without a monitor. Please contact me off list if anyone wants the actual hardware recommendations that were suggested to me and I now use. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com Feb 15 05:11PM -0500 Hi Esther, Thanks for saving me the effort of digging up Chris's info. I have it around here, but I can never remember which folder I saved it to. *smile* Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Esther wrote: annelie robledo acer2...@gmail.com Feb 15 10:02PM -0600 Thank you for this tip. I have a mac book and lately my finder was extremely slow. I removed drop box from the log in and every thing is good now. Again thank you. On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Feb 16 10:23AM -0500 Cheapest monitor I could find with shipping and all was pushing $100 so it's not a whole lot cheaper to go the adapter route, but $40 is $40, especially if you don't have room. CB On 2/15/12 5:09 PM, John Panarese wrote: Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Feb 16 11:13AM -0500 Do you already have another computer with a monitor? If so a VM switch would be way to go. -Original Message- From:
Re: i love applescript
Hey Yuma, I recently got a book (can't recall the exact title), but I've been studying APpleScript and I just started digging into this. I can just imagine the possibilities it offers. So, can't wait to learn all I can. On Mar 5, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hi list, I was just fed up with going through long stats tables and input everything manually. So i looked for scientific calculators which did certain specific functions for me. Then either they're not yet completely accessible, quirky or just don't have the function, or again are on the iphone and well, it's not the same speed of input right? So back home, in an hour, i tested my applescripting knowledge to make a script which takes any number of variables x and their probabilities, and the script instantly calculates mean, variants and standard deviation. It just freaking works. So now i'm thinking of applying it to every different application, probabilities, NPRs NCRs, trigonometry, complex numbers, everything thrown at me i'll script the correct app and unify them all into one big applescript that will use some objective c elements for the UI. Seriously folks, consider applescript as an advanced tool to do a lot of things quickly and efficiently. The headache lasts a few hours after a month or two reading up and trying different things in applescript, but the rewards are plenty. Now i just wish apple would enhance the voice over dictionary for more power Best regards, Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question on adding columns in Numbers
Hi all, FOr those of you who are familiar with Numbers I have a question. I am trying to create a spreadsheet that would let me create three or four columns with text headers such as paint, flooring etc. Then I want to have the ability to put a dollar amount in each column and have the individual columns added up at the bottom or top-where ever. The goal is to have individual columns that contain a specific item and if I buy a gallon of blue paint, green paint, and purple paint, I want to put each cost of the paint in the paint column and have a total of what I spent for the paint. I did not see a sample I could use in the available templates. So, any help is appreciated. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question on adding columns in Numbers
Thank you Gigi and Anne for the info. Gigi I will follow your instructions. I had done something similar, but the math wasn't working out, so likely something I was doing wrong. On Mar 3, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Gigi, To go to the end of a Numbers document, press VO-Shift-End (VO-FN-Shift-Right Arrow on a laptop). Cheers, Anne On 3 Mar 2012, at 20:13, Eugenia Firth wrote: The only thing I have trouble getting done is a command on the keyboard to go to the end of the file. So, I use the track pad if I want to go very far in a large file. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A little spellcheck before pressing send please?
Not to beat the topic to death, but knowing I'm not an English major and not great at spelling, I make every effort to send messages that sound as though I took the time to prepare them. Of course some of this comes from my professional world where we are expected to prepare messages that reflect thorough research etc. Even though we may begin to speak our messages etc. we should still take time to review them for accuracy and to ensure the message is clear. Oddly enough I have seen an increase in professional websites with spelling and grammatical errors and I'm not sure why this is. I for one really like the fact that I am alerted to the spelling errors I make or those errors where I have swapped letters. On Mar 1, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote: I think part of the problem is these silly smartphones without physical keyboards. That's what I was using today when I hit the letter y instead of the letter t. Android doesn't even have the decency to tell you that you've misspelled a word. On top of that, going back to edit is like looking for a needle in a haystack. It's why I promptly corrected myself when Ricardo asked me to repeat what I'd written. I don't know if IOS handles this any better, as my IPad is in the shop, but I'd venture a bet it does. Another problem is speech to text, which I've heard a lot of visually impaired users saying they like to use. Even if using Zoom only in Mac OS, you get a nice red line if you type something misspelled. So, I don't know, on my part, I don't judge too critically when I see typing errors. Your milage may very. On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Can we return to her original request? I agree. to speak frankly, not only is it that some people do not bother to spell check; but also, that they are thinking way ahead of what they're typing. As a result, they don't pay attention to the letters they are pressing on the keyboard. That makes for just plain sloppy writing, and, sometimes, you can't even read the message because the typing itself is inexcusably bad. Lucky this isn't one of those English grammar lists where one single space or letter or punctuation mark out of place and the moderator throws you off the list. I've never been on or read from such a list; but, I'm told they do exist. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Wes Smith wrote: Whoa! You. ARe. SMART I'm not sure I could do that!! :)On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Emrah wrote: I was born in French speaking Switzerland, so French is my mother tongue. My parents are Kurdish and immigrated from Turkey. I was taught German at school. My job is in English. The bottom line is that I can manage Turkish, one dialect of Kurdish, French and English. I am not fluent in German. I am a citizen of the world with my heart anchored in the USA. Cheers! On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Wes Smith wrote: What other languages do you know? What is your first? Just wondering. Thanks. On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Emrah wrote: Guys, For some reason, ever since I upgraded to Lion, VO announces me misspelled words when I read emails, not just when composing. I guess it's ok not to always start with some sort of a polite greeting... I don't always do it when replying to messages. However, I think we should dedicate a bit more attention to our spelling. Some emails on the list are really creepy! Please make a little effort to improve your spelling please. I am not talking about people with English difficulties. I am referring to people that sound like native American / English and do not review their emails before sending. English is my 4th language and I do try to sound coherent and use the right punctuation. It looks and plays nicer when using a text to speech! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: A little spellcheck before pressing send please?
Kawal, I'm not looking to start a pissing contest here, but can you definitively state that you know every person reviews his/her messages prior to sending it? I really doubt that. You obviously take time to review your messages and I will not argue that point with you because I am not sitting with you when you send the message. I think the point is people should keep in mind that the messages they send are a reflection of themselves. So, if you want people to think of you as intelligent etc. you try to send intelligent sounding messages. Now of course we all have off days and messages get a bit garbled at times. :) On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I'd like to take issue on this to say that as long as one can make themselves understood, then the person is on the right track. You are very wrong to say people do not review their messages before sending as I know that people do that, I being for one. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Mar 2012, at 03:22 AM, Emrah li...@kavun.ch wrote: Guys, For some reason, ever since I upgraded to Lion, VO announces me misspelled words when I read emails, not just when composing. I guess it's ok not to always start with some sort of a polite greeting... I don't always do it when replying to messages. However, I think we should dedicate a bit more attention to our spelling. Some emails on the list are really creepy! Please make a little effort to improve your spelling please. I am not talking about people with English difficulties. I am referring to people that sound like native American / English and do not review their emails before sending. English is my 4th language and I do try to sound coherent and use the right punctuation. It looks and plays nicer when using a text to speech! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scientific calculator after some use
Yuma, WHich app is this one? On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for that one. Will be checking it in detail later this week. I found another one with a note taking part where you can paste past calculations or parts of it and plug it back into equations. The issue is that all the buttons are unlabelled :) The devver was forthcoming in rectifying this so good, but i need an immediate solution so your suggestion might stick once i've understood the layout Thanks again Yuma On 1/03/2012, at 7:25 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: I don't think the built-in calculator will do it. The only Deg button is just to switch modes from degrees to radians. There are a jillion calculators in the app store so you might want to take a poke through there. The LXVII calculator is one of those HP RPN calculators which should do the trick. Every button has three additional functions beyond its stated feature but on the 1 button there were R and P functions. If I left VO focus on there for a few seconds it read the help text saying it was rectangular to polar coordinates. On the third row of buttons are three unlabeled buttons which are the f, g and h buttons (which also read in the help text if you wait). They activate the secondary functions written in different colors. So the g button says it activates the blue functions which VO-A actually says are turquoise, which would be the P secondary function on the 1 key. The f key activates the yellow functions which VO actually reads as 'a shade of merliwood or something like that. So that would be the R on the one key. I also noticed that it didn't announce the values in the display at the top without my moving VO focus there so I set up a hotspot VO-shift-1 and then turned on monitoring of the hotspot VO-Command-shift-1. Hope that makes some sense. CB On 2/24/12 6:52 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hi All, The mac os calculator either has some serious performance problems and doesn't have what i need or it's my perception that wants everything to be extra zippy, and it does in fact have what i want. But the question i have needs clairifcation before i endeavor for an alternative solution: With the current default calculator, i have to do some tedious work before getting results i want, ie for changing values from rectangular to polar forms when doing complex numbers. Normally there's a rec deg function available on all scientific calculators but on this one, i have to manually enter the values which is a complete drag and annoyance. Can anyone please tell me if there is in fact a way to do this and i'm missing out on something somewhere? Best regards, Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: if interaction went away
I don't think you have to worry about radical changes. On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: Hi The trouble with what the old screen readers do in Windows when implemented on Mac is that there are quite a few apps that don't understand the standard methods of keyboard navigation. Many apps don't let you tab to all controls, or arrow through lists. So, even if interaction were to be axed, we would still need some way to handle these. In Windows, you have the mouse pointer movement commands of your screen reader of choice, but that's not quite as efficient when you have a large amount of data that must be scrolled repeatedly to find what you want. I'm sure it could be streamlined, but I doubt the concept will ever be completely removed at least, not as long as OS X remains primarily a keyboard and mouse driven system. On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: if the concept of the standard method of keyboard interaction were to Fade away then how would desktop and notebook users interact with voiceover? maybe if there was a more simplified rework of voiceover so that rather than long winded interaction proceedures to pages, objects and windows, we could have a more intuitive, single layer process. something like the old screen readers used to do. lew On 1 Mar 2012, at 18:16, Teresa Cochran wrote: I think interaction makes a lot of sense when using a keyboard, but it isn't quite so essential with a trackpad. I don't really see the concept going away, because so much more information is displayed with a desktop than with a mobile device. Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi there, Considering that OS 10.8 is supposedly going to be much like IOS in many respects, it occurred to me that perhaps we might see in 10.8 the vanishing of the concept of interaction. For those of us with Iphones, that might not be such a big deal; but, I just can't help wondering. How would y'all feel if the very concept of interaction, (something which we just do without thinking in Mac OS), were to go away? Bear in mind that I have no indications that interaction will be going away in 10.8; still, I thought it might be fun to see how the group feels about that. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple TV
Hey Jason, Very good and nice to see another Marylander on the list. On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:35 PM, jason lefevers wrote: Hi , first I would like to intraduce myself , My name is jason LeFevers I live in Baltimore MD USA. I have been blind for about 9 years now, I lost my sight in a car accident while serving in the Airforce. I have only been using apple products bor a few years now with the purchase of the iphone 3gs. I am now loving all apple products . The toys I have currently are, iphone 4s, Macbook pro, apple tv, and airport extreme. I also have my PC with Jaws 13 that i also use. I have only had the macbook since and apple tv 2nd gen since christmass. I am still learning the voiceover on the mac but its getting easier to do things . I wanted to comment on the apple tv and say how much I enjoy it. For the first time since loosing my sight I am able to know what is on the tv and select what I want to watch with no sighted help. I use it alot to play tv shows for my kids when I am alone with them using netflicks, and tv shows that i purchased from Itunes. I also have it hooked up to a nice stereo and take advantage of the airplay feature to play music from my itunes and pandora threw my stereo using my Iphone. I would be happy to answer any specific questions about it . thanks I look forward to learning more from you all about apple and other accessable toys. jason PS I hear rumers that the Apple Itv will be released sometime this year I am really excited to see what this tv will offer. Feb 25, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Apple -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Icon Command For the Mac
I'm not sure what you are trying to do when you say you want to bring up icons. If you are referring to the dock it is VO-d. In fact you can get a list of VoiceOver commands just by looking in the Help Center of your Mac and for VO specifically you can do VO-? (question mark). There are lots of resources available to you where you can quickly locate answers to the most commonly asked questions. On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Christine Pierce wrote: Hello, I have an iMac and I was wondering what the command was to bring up icons. Thanks, Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
