Re: [MBZ] Third Row Seating
Every 123 and 124 wagon was available with a 3rd seat. It was an option - NOT standard (although MOST later US delivered wagons came with them). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout
OK Dan I am on your side,well we do not need sides, I just agree with you. On 7/25/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I'm talking about the same thing. It's not nice to call people names just because they have a different point of view. And I got called lots of interesting names... I fully understand that if I would have disagreed with some virtual unknown on the list no one would have even noticed. Who you disagree with around here seems to matter. Not that I'm always right but neither are the gods always right. BTW I've been around as long as most of you. I'm no newbie and I know that MB is god around here. Every list has it's guru - I'm not comfortable with people fawning all over them or me. regards to everyone, happy Dan ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration
Re: [MBZ] need info
Stu Ritter (former Mercedes shop owner and technical editor of The Star magazine) says that to properly afford to maintain a 6.3 or 6.9 you need the inome from a religion or at least a small country! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITrd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:03:19PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITrd=1 Cool snag. FWIW, my brother's 78 300D had similar issues. Replacing one injector and driving the hell out of it for about 5000 miles cleared it up. K
[MBZ] sleeve puller
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Sleeve-Puller-Diesel-300D-Not-SL_W0QQitemZ4563888477QQcategoryZ43996QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Diesel-1968-Mercades-Benz-300-Diesel-Good-Interior_W0QQitemZ4563846203QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] need info
Marshall Booth wrote: Stu Ritter (former Mercedes shop owner and technical editor of The Star magazine) says that to properly afford to maintain a 6.3 or 6.9 you need the inome from a religion or at least a small country! I thought that was for the 600. The 280SEL 6.3 or 450SEL 6.9 should only cost 1/3 the revenue stream of the cult of scientology.
[MBZ] rod knocking?
OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out. Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector line is loosened? On this one, seems to have a knock no matter which is loosed, and all cylinders seem to be firing evenly. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
If it is a rod knocking it'll still be moving whether the cylinder is firing or not; hence the noise stays the same. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:25:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out. Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector line is loosened? On this one, seems to have a knock no matter which is loosed, and all cylinders seem to be firing evenly. Rod knock should not be dependent on the cylinder firing. If anything, the knock might be a teense quieter when the offending rod's cylinder is not firing. I'd probably yank the oil pan to see if you're [still] getting bearing material in the pan. Usually a spun bearing will have torn through part of the bearing. 617 cranks are ridiculously hard, you can probably slap a set of bearings on it for cheap and have a good runner for a while. Not sure if that'll be easier than locating a runner wagon engine, or swapping a wagon head onto a runner sedan/coupe engine. K
Re: [MBZ] need info
So what kind of religion would it tae? Maybe he could start one. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] need info Stu Ritter (former Mercedes shop owner and technical editor of The Star magazine) says that to properly afford to maintain a 6.3 or 6.9 you need the inome from a religion or at least a small country! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
thats what I thought, just wanted to verify. Jeff Zedic wrote: If it is a rod knocking it'll still be moving whether the cylinder is firing or not; hence the noise stays the same. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan? Kevin wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:25:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out. Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector line is loosened? On this one, seems to have a knock no matter which is loosed, and all cylinders seem to be firing evenly. Rod knock should not be dependent on the cylinder firing. If anything, the knock might be a teense quieter when the offending rod's cylinder is not firing. I'd probably yank the oil pan to see if you're [still] getting bearing material in the pan. Usually a spun bearing will have torn through part of the bearing. 617 cranks are ridiculously hard, you can probably slap a set of bearings on it for cheap and have a good runner for a while. Not sure if that'll be easier than locating a runner wagon engine, or swapping a wagon head onto a runner sedan/coupe engine. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
So is it a turbo or not? Looks like a good acquisition Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITrd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan? I don't see why not, provided you have small enough fingers and enough clearance. It can be done on a straight six jeep, if you don't mind dropping the front axle. K
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
I think on these will probably have to unbolt the engine mounts to raise it up enough to get the pan out. Kevin wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan? I don't see why not, provided you have small enough fingers and enough clearance. It can be done on a straight six jeep, if you don't mind dropping the front axle. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out. Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector line is loosened? On this one, seems to have a knock no matter which is loosed, and all cylinders seem to be firing evenly. Are you listening with a stethascope? If not, go out and buy one, the screwdriver technique is vastly overrated (and NOT PRECISE, LoL). A rod knock should be constant, even if the injector line is cracked, and should increase with rpms. The rule is it should be louder when the engine is cold, right? The stethascope is useful because it will help to eliminate the DOH factor, such as the vacuum pump and the alternator. What is the damage supposed to be? If he drained the pan, and you only hear knocking from one cylinder, man you made out like a bandit on this one. Be careful about running it or revving it too much, lest you spin that bearing and then it's GOODBYE TOKYO! That applies double if you even suspect he damaged the oil pump pickup. Mac
Re: [MBZ] need info
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that was for the 600. The 280SEL 6.3 or 450SEL 6.9 should only cost 1/3 the revenue stream of the cult of scientology. Both are likely to involve audits. LoL. Mac
Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1; sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITrd=1 Oh, aren't we getting bold in our old age? You need to sell me either this one or that knocking wagon. Really. Mac
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:49 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 041206 2.069 2.111 2.234 2.220 2.053 2.033 1.995 2.124 2.181 2.225 041129 2.116 2.141 2.258 2.252 2.082 2.086 2.053 2.171 2.233 2.287 041122 2.116 2.143 2.258 2.251 2.086 2.083 2.048 2.170 2.242 2.299 041115 2.132 2.159 2.268 2.262 2.105 2.096 2.056 2.215 2.274 2.336 041108 2.163 2.182 2.296 2.278 2.130 2.123 2.096 2.248 2.324 2.386 041101 2.206 2.212 2.330 2.307 2.161 2.172 2.147 2.276 2.370 2.431 041025 2.212 2.213 2.329 2.309 2.161 2.185 2.144 2.278 2.380 2.437 041018 2.180 2.179 2.290 2.267 2.131 2.161 2.115 2.219 2.337 2.394 041011 2.092 2.100 2.212 2.200 2.047 2.055 2.033 2.132 2.276 2.322 041004 2.053 2.058
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
Rod knocking will get louder as the engine heats up. Cold oil is usually thick enough to cushion the pounding a bit. On as diesel it may be loud all the time due to the higher cylinder pressures.
Re: [MBZ] need info
The saying I heard once was ; To have a 6.3 you need to own a bank. To have a 600 you need to own a country.
Re: [MBZ] need info
Should work too seeing as there's so many devoted disciples ~)
[MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes
Andrew, JGiels, here's the story you're dying to hear: The other day on the way to work my 300TD's alternator, parking brake and brake wear lights came on. The slight thump in the engine compartment told me the belt broke, I got it to the side of the road before it heated up. ( I live in rural NC, we can do that by turning right and applying the brake ). (c: Here's where the story comes in. I wanted to get the car home, but did not want to work on it on the side of the road. I have a $3.99 belt kit from autozone in the back but did not want to use it for the 6 mile drive home, instead let's save it for a 'big' emergency. I didnt want to use my insurance for a tow, or borrow a trailer, because it was just too much trouble. So I got a hand full of tie wraps and made a temporary belt from the water pump to the crank pulley. Took 5 as I remember. Worked like a champ. Has a soothing 'tink tink tink' sound as you drive down the road (with the window open) so you know it is still there.. heads of the tie wraps hitting the pulleys, etc. I cut off the excess, and made the whole belt outside the car but for one connection. Then dropped the thing in from the top and crawled under the car to make the last joint on the crank pulley. Pulled it down nice and snug. Took 5 minutes total. So when you are replenishing your 'breakdown' kit, think about sticking in some standard tie wraps. Might help you out someday. Richard 300TD with 400K miles and a tinkling fan belt.
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
Yes, I have a stethescope. From what I understand, it damaged the oil pump and they replaced that etc. Runs great, just has the knock. Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out. Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector line is loosened? On this one, seems to have a knock no matter which is loosed, and all cylinders seem to be firing evenly. Are you listening with a stethascope? If not, go out and buy one, the screwdriver technique is vastly overrated (and NOT PRECISE, LoL). A rod knock should be constant, even if the injector line is cracked, and should increase with rpms. The rule is it should be louder when the engine is cold, right? The stethascope is useful because it will help to eliminate the DOH factor, such as the vacuum pump and the alternator. What is the damage supposed to be? If he drained the pan, and you only hear knocking from one cylinder, man you made out like a bandit on this one. Be careful about running it or revving it too much, lest you spin that bearing and then it's GOODBYE TOKYO! That applies double if you even suspect he damaged the oil pump pickup. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] URGENT Need for Viton fuel hoses in Puget Sound
In a message dated 7/25/2005 10:47:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, folks! I need some Viton fuel lines (return lines, I think, the ones that come up from the little nozzles which come up out of the injectors, I think is what they are) and bad! (My '82 240D is leaking B50 all over my carport; I thought it'd only leak if the fuel line was pressurized, i.e., if the car was running, but it continued to leak through the night, so I tried to clamp off the lines this morning, but I had to leave for work, so I don't know how successful I was - I'm assuming the worst! :( Viton tubing was very strongly recommended in a TDIClub forum when I had a similar problem recently with my '03 TDI.) Does anyone know who might stock these in the Puget Sound area, preferably on the I5 Seattle to Oly corridor? Also, what is the required inside diameter for these lines for the '82 240D, and does anyone know why hose clamps aren't used for additional security - is it the heat? Can't one get steel or brass hose clamps if this is the issue? Thanks!!! DG, The factory braided lines will last about 8 years, even using B100. Why not just call Rusty and order a meter of the proper fuel return hose. It is braided so when properly installed, it will not fall off. forget about clamps. Forget about Viton. With all the money you will be saving you can afford to replace these lines once or twice in the next 20 years. Don't forget to ask for a new end of line plug, yours may have fallen off. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Diesel-1968-Mercades-Benz-300-Diesel-Good-Interior_W0QQitemZ4563846203QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem the car says 300 Diesel, which I was told is a 4 cylinder. I was also told it can't be a '68, so I'm not sure anymore. Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is? Craig
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is? 200d, no? Mac
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
It's a 62-65 190d or 66-67 200D finny, W110. On 7/25/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is? 200d, no? Mac -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] need info
Chris N John, I would like to reach out and soundly smack all the people on this list who have told you that you need to own a country to have a 6.9... Yes, it can be an expensive car, but for all those guys know, you already own a country or an oil company. I'm VERY, VERY surprised and chagrined at the responses from Marshall, et al., and suggest they offer some assistance in identifying problems, then suggestions and help/solutions. IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER, WAAAY OFF TOPIC AND DOES NOT ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR HELP! Isn't that what this list is all about!!! I think an apology is in order from you guys End of rant... Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Sunday, July 24, 2005, at 09:07 PM, Christy E. Petrich wrote: Hi Guys! Just wondering if anybody out there has knowledge about 450 sel 6.9 mercedes we have a 1977 and are looking to learn all we can about it. Like any car of that age its needing lots of matinence and we're not quite sure how to do it all. Thanks we are looking forward to hearing from you! Chris N John P.S. not all wifes run the car till its dry ;) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
On 7/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 62-65 190d or 66-67 200D finny, W110. Can I get a 250 .. 250 .. 250 do I hear 300? 300D? Can I get a 400? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
Damn, that is a find! On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 05:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT rd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
AND THE WINNER IS: Mac (Take a bow) It is typ 110110 10 A 200D. Possibly imported from outside the US, not through MB dealership. Clear turnsignals were not used on US models after 1962. All cars first registered in the US in 1968 had to have side marker lights. This car does not. However, there are several indications it is a late production 200D, which would make it a 67 or 68. I'd bet money it is a 68. The /8 series was a little slow getting here by US model year standards. I'd bet it was built in 1967 and titled as a 1968. In those days, if a 67 didn't sell, the dealer sent the MSO in to Jersey and they issued a new MSO for 68. This practice was not limited to MB. Does anyone have serial number ranges per year for 200Ds? I know 227xxx is a very early 200D and I know that 257xxx is a late 66 200D If they made 30,000 a year, then a late 67 would be 287xxx. It looks like it might have red carpet. If so, that is odd. Most 200Ds had rubber mats. At 09:50 PM 7/25/2005, you wrote: someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is? 200d, no? Mac
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
No, it's a 220D. This is a 115 car right? A 200D is a 110 fin car, although there may have been a euro 200D in ' 68 that was a 115 sedan.
Re: [MBZ] need info
Chuck, Chuck, such hostility... you could hurt yourself I've worked on both cars and yes they're as fixable as any other. I have a 6.3 for sale here right now that I did a lot of work on and I've done several others. I've only worked on one 6.9 but I didn't find it as hard to work around - kind of similar to a CIS 450SL engine. The 6.3 engine is a different story. It took me all day or longer to RR the injection pump on this car. It was running very rich with black clouds of smoke out the back so I determined that the pump had a problem. A lot of stuff has to come off before you can even get near the pump but once I did get it off, I realised that it had been rebuilt and then installed out of time to the engine. I put it back on properly and it never missed a beat after that. The other thing is the air suspension. It's not rocket science but it still scares most people away. Once it's operating properly it's a very nice system. Like all things it needs to be serviced and maintained closely. Neil at Star Motors did all the rebuilds for me although I've fixed some air valves myself. The control lever can go over centre and lose contact with gearing inside. Think of rack and pinion steering - it looks similar to that inside. However, the question is about a 6.9 I've seen a few go through Toronto auction pretty cheap and unless they're nice cars they don't bring too much on the open market. Any low production car will have very specific parts and some pieces will have prices dreamed up by people on drugs. The engines are strong as long as they aren't over heated which happens from pluged rads where the coolant wasn't changed often enough. I don't think there's an oil cooler on these cars, just the big tank in front of the right front wheel filled with 10 litters of oil. It runs very close to the tire and I suppose the air flow aids in cooling. I still have the rad from the one I did here and it was completely clogged. The head gaskets blew out and so the top end had to be done. Can't say how much that was - it was done at another shop in Toronto. The struts are probably the biggest expense if they go bad. I imagine there's an accumulator nearby that can go bad as well and cause a harsh ride, but that would be less costly. Very smooth powerful cars as I remember. I know there's a M100 Group for 6.3, 600 and 6.9 but I don't know the URL. Maybe someone does. I'm sure we can help this guy out , right gang? ( As for our esteemed friend around here, well I don't know. People say that he can speak for and defend himself but I never see that happen. With all these followers speaking for him, hey, why would he ever need to ~) Even on the 113 list where I suppose I might be called some sort of guru ( I hate that though ) people take me to task if they think I'm wrong. I don't mind, it keeps me sharp and honest. Some of my best learning has been from mistakes I've made - no one is perfect. Frankly, I believe it's a real mistake to elevate anyone to such a level that no one is ever allowed to openly debate ideas and differences with them. I welcome debate and all of you should too. I came from a family where you got things off your chest and the next day everyone was friendly again. regards to all, Dan
Re: [MBZ] URGENT Need for Viton fuel hoses in Puget Sound
Well, perhaps you'd like to come clean the gallon plus of B50 off the floor of my carport. All I know is that after only 33K miles this happened to our TDI about 6 weeks or so ago and at that time we were advised to replace the hoses, the failed and not failed, w/ Viton or silicone-based. We let our mechanic have his way with our car, but I now know he didn't use Viton, and given that the hoses he did install on my 240D soon after I bought it this past Oct. have failed after only 11,000 miles (he says today he warrants them for only 6 mo. or 6000 miles) I'm quite concerned for the TDI as well. I'll go with the Viton and if they don't fail within the year, I'll invite you again to come look at the stains on my carport floor. DG DG --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/25/2005 10:47:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, folks! I need some Viton fuel lines (return lines, I think, the ones that come up from the little nozzles which come up out of the injectors, I think is what they are) and bad! (My '82 240D is leaking B50 all over my carport; I thought it'd only leak if the fuel line was pressurized, i.e., if the car was running, but it continued to leak through the night, so I tried to clamp off the lines this morning, but I had to leave for work, so I don't know how successful I was - I'm assuming the worst! :( Viton tubing was very strongly recommended in a TDIClub forum when I had a similar problem recently with my '03 TDI.) Does anyone know who might stock these in the Puget Sound area, preferably on the I5 Seattle to Oly corridor? Also, what is the required inside diameter for these lines for the '82 240D, and does anyone know why hose clamps aren't used for additional security - is it the heat? Can't one get steel or brass hose clamps if this is the issue? Thanks!!! DG, The factory braided lines will last about 8 years, even using B100. Why not just call Rusty and order a meter of the proper fuel return hose. It is braided so when properly installed, it will not fall off. forget about clamps. Forget about Viton. With all the money you will be saving you can afford to replace these lines once or twice in the next 20 years. Don't forget to ask for a new end of line plug, yours may have fallen off. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
I didn't look at the picture, sorry. Someone must have changed it to say 300D on the back? Not unheard of.
Re: [MBZ] Hammie's tank vent...
Actually the plan is to cut the vent tube in the trunk. I bought a section of fuel line to put over the cut once I get the vent figured out. I'd thought about blowing back into the tank but don't really want whatever the obstruction is floating around in there. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 242kmi Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:11:12 -0400 From: BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hammie's alternator - and the tank vent... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Can't help you Curt. I've never had to pull a 123 tank - I guess they rarely fail. Remove the fuel cap before you blow any air into the tank, the pressure could force a lot of fuel back into your face and despite what you may think of me I wouldn't wish that on anyone. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
no, its not a 115 its a 110. BenzBarn wrote: No, it's a 220D. This is a 115 car right? A 200D is a 110 fin car, although there may have been a euro 200D in ' 68 that was a 115 sedan. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] 123 ac drains
On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there? Whats the deal? Are they not foam and just need something stuck up in them from below to clear them? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] rod knocking?
Oil pressure is spot on, have not pulled the valve cover yet. Car has a little over 200K on it. Dont know about oil usage. Kevin wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:44:09PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yes, I have a stethescope. From what I understand, it damaged the oil pump and they replaced that etc. Runs great, just has the knock. I have to ask, what's the oil pressure like? Any unusual wear on the cam lobes? It shouldn't take too much effort to look at the top end. Does it smoke or use oil? If the cam doesn't show a lot of gnarly wear, and the chain stretch is somewhat reasonable, I'd slap a set of bearings in it. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Hammie's alternator and glowplug relay
More likely a bad glow plug or leaking valve stem seals. Regards, Trampas Stern _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hammie's alternator and glowplug relay Yesterday leaving work I crossed my fingers and Hammie fired right up, again all the lights came on, I revved the engine and they went out. Lose belt I'll wager. Give Richard a cigar. Next question, I've noticed recently that if I wait 1-2 seconds after the glowplug light goes out before starting the car (like if I'm fumbling with my seatbelt) he starts noticably harder than if I hit the key the very second the light goes out. The car still isn't hard to start but if I hit the key just when the light goes out the car fires immediately, if I wait its a half second of cranking. This would indicate to me that the light is a true indication of what the glow plugs are actually doing. I'd always thought I had the afterglow relay but today I was thinking about how when first started Hammie idles a little rough. Could the afterglow part of the relay die? I presume replacement is quick and easy? -Curt '83 240D Hammie 242kmi __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)
Dieselvolk, Well, this past weekend I towed my sailboat back and forth from storage to boat shop to house to boat ramp, and found the experience most unpleasant. Lots of bouncing, tongue of trailer yanking on the hitch like a wild animal trying to escape, having to drive real slow on the rougher sections of road, stopping several times to try to shift more weight onto the tongue to see if that would fix it. So, it took me three days to realize it, but I've finally decided that there must be a problem with the Self Leveling System (SLS) for the rear axle. I did the bounce test, and the RR corner seems to bounce easier than the LR. Most of the time the rear of the car is at the correct height when driving, but when loaded with the trailer that only occcured some of the time. Also, she leaks down and sags a little most of the time. My first guess is that it's time to rebuild the control valve. The valve in the car now came from a '79 donor, cost was all of $10 last summer. It worked well until recently, when the car started sagging when parked, not always but enough to bug me. Does it make sense that a failed control valve would cause one side to be weaker than the other? Supposedly the nitrogen spheres were replaced by the PO about 5 years ago, I wonder if one of those has failed, which in turn pushed the control valve over the edge?H, last rebuild of the original control valve also failed after ~year or less. H Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)
Meade, Wild guess, hard to tell w/o actually comparing the ride to mine (c: . But I bet you have a combination of valve rebuild (leaks down, not at right height w/trailer attached) and sphere (bounce). I dont see how the valve could affect only one side, but since the spheres are individual to a side, they might well be the cause of the bounce issue. I was amazed at how much nicer my wagon rode once I replaced the spheres, in terms of bounce under load. Now I have a ramp beside the house, and you can pull the boat up here, we'll go for a sail, then diagnose the SLS over beverages! It's only 3 hours away (c: . Richard --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselvolk, Well, this past weekend I towed my sailboat back and forth from storage to boat shop to house to boat ramp, and found the experience most unpleasant. Lots of bouncing, tongue of trailer yanking on the hitch like a wild animal trying to escape, having to drive real slow on the rougher sections of road, stopping several times to try to shift more weight onto the tongue to see if that would fix it. So, it took me three days to realize it, but I've finally decided that there must be a problem with the Self Leveling System (SLS) for the rear axle. I did the bounce test, and the RR corner seems to bounce easier than the LR. Most of the time the rear of the car is at the correct height when driving, but when loaded with the trailer that only occcured some of the time. Also, she leaks down and sags a little most of the time. My first guess is that it's time to rebuild the control valve. The valve in the car now came from a '79 donor, cost was all of $10 last summer. It worked well until recently, when the car started sagging when parked, not always but enough to bug me. Does it make sense that a failed control valve would cause one side to be weaker than the other? Supposedly the nitrogen spheres were replaced by the PO about 5 years ago, I wonder if one of those has failed, which in turn pushed the control valve over the edge?H, last rebuild of the original control valve also failed after ~year or less. H Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] need info
you still haven't sold that 6.3 At 12:59 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote: Chuck, Chuck, such hostility... you could hurt yourself I've worked on both cars and yes they're as fixable as any other. I have a 6.3 for sale here right now that I did a lot of work on and I've done several others. I've only worked on one 6.9 but I didn't find it as hard to work around - kind of similar to a CIS 450SL engine. The 6.3 engine is a different story. It took me all day or longer to RR the injection pump on this car. It was running very rich with black clouds of smoke out the back so I determined that the pump had a problem. A lot of stuff has to come off before you can even get near the pump but once I did get it off, I realised that it had been rebuilt and then installed out of time to the engine. I put it back on properly and it never missed a beat after that. The other thing is the air suspension. It's not rocket science but it still scares most people away. Once it's operating properly it's a very nice system. Like all things it needs to be serviced and maintained closely. Neil at Star Motors did all the rebuilds for me although I've fixed some air valves myself. The control lever can go over centre and lose contact with gearing inside. Think of rack and pinion steering - it looks similar to that inside. However, the question is about a 6.9 I've seen a few go through Toronto auction pretty cheap and unless they're nice cars they don't bring too much on the open market. Any low production car will have very specific parts and some pieces will have prices dreamed up by people on drugs. The engines are strong as long as they aren't over heated which happens from pluged rads where the coolant wasn't changed often enough. I don't think there's an oil cooler on these cars, just the big tank in front of the right front wheel filled with 10 litters of oil. It runs very close to the tire and I suppose the air flow aids in cooling. I still have the rad from the one I did here and it was completely clogged. The head gaskets blew out and so the top end had to be done. Can't say how much that was - it was done at another shop in Toronto. The struts are probably the biggest expense if they go bad. I imagine there's an accumulator nearby that can go bad as well and cause a harsh ride, but that would be less costly. Very smooth powerful cars as I remember. I know there's a M100 Group for 6.3, 600 and 6.9 but I don't know the URL. Maybe someone does. I'm sure we can help this guy out , right gang? ( As for our esteemed friend around here, well I don't know. People say that he can speak for and defend himself but I never see that happen. With all these followers speaking for him, hey, why would he ever need to ~) Even on the 113 list where I suppose I might be called some sort of guru ( I hate that though ) people take me to task if they think I'm wrong. I don't mind, it keeps me sharp and honest. Some of my best learning has been from mistakes I've made - no one is perfect. Frankly, I believe it's a real mistake to elevate anyone to such a level that no one is ever allowed to openly debate ideas and differences with them. I welcome debate and all of you should too. I came from a family where you got things off your chest and the next day everyone was friendly again. regards to all, Dan ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] need info
even striplin has a 6.9! i think the dogs live in it At 12:45 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm VERY, VERY surprised and chagrined at the responses from Marshall, et al., and suggest they offer some assistance in identifying problems, then suggestions and help/solutions. IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER, WAAAY OFF TOPIC AND DOES NOT ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR HELP! Isn't that what this list is all about!!! I could not agree more, given that owning a 6.9 is still one of my goals/dreams/yeahsuredude things. I know that some parts prices are high, but these are not cars you drive to work every day (unless you do plastic surgery in Beverly Hills), they are special cars. Where there is a will, there must be a way? Yes? Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] In case you missed these !!!
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Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
It's a Euro model!! Turbo or not, Kaleb? On 7/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, that is a find! On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 05:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT rd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] need info
No, that one sold last year. It went to NY and then it went back to Germany. This is a better one. Dan
Re: [MBZ] 123 ac drains
Hey Kaleb, Sounds like the drain hole is blocked. -- Original message -- On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there? Whats the deal? Are they not foam and just need something stuck up in them from below to clear them? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 123 ac drains
85 what? your outdated list shows both a 126 and a 123. Who knows what else is in the vast, and highly classified, Okie Acres compound? Could be a secret Mog for all we know. Go under the car with an air hose and look for the drains. Blow air up each drain. At 08:29 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote: On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there? Whats the deal? Are they not foam and just need something stuck up in them from below to clear them? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Cam followers
Hi all, I'm getting ready to replace a cam follower that the adjuster won't stay in place. I'll be using a short flat prybar to lower the valve and remove the rocker arm. I don't have the MB tool for that. Or should I go to Autozone and borrow a spring compressor? As for the follower (ball stud) can I use an impact gun to remove it? Anybody have any tips or tricks to help me out with this job? Thanks George
Re: [MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes
Richard said... FWIW, a friend locally tried panty hose for the same trick and failed miserably. Said he spent more time picking nylon out of the pulley system than he did putting on a new belt (c: Did he take 'em off first GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] check out my latest aquisition
its a euro so it would be non turbo andrew strasfogel wrote: It's a Euro model!! Turbo or not, Kaleb? On 7/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, that is a find! On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 05:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7988308620rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT rd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 123 ac drains
it would be a 123 Loren Faeth wrote: 85 what? your outdated list shows both a 126 and a 123. Who knows what else is in the vast, and highly classified, Okie Acres compound? Could be a secret Mog for all we know. Go under the car with an air hose and look for the drains. Blow air up each drain. At 08:29 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote: On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there? Whats the deal? Are they not foam and just need something stuck up in them from below to clear them? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Rear suspension rebuild
Listers, Been trying to avoid working on my rear suspension, but a chunk of rubber broke loose or something yesterday, which makes the car VERY hard to drive in a straight line. I already have all the parts for a rear end rebuild (trailing arm bushings, driveshaft everything, subframe bushings differential and tranny mounts, etc etc) and am wondering if I can simply follow the manual for the repairs. The manual calls for the complete removal of the rear axles is this really necessary? Any tips/tricks/comments/etc? And I do have the proper spring compressor... so that at least isn't a problem. Thanks!!! John
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)
Richard, Thanks for the info. So, your car was also bouncy when the spheres needed to be replaced? I thought that the failure mode for those was a hard ride, not bouncy. Is there some valving that goes on inside those? I think that their function in the system is basically the same as shock absorbers in a normal suspension set-up, so it would make sense that they would have some valving like a shock absorber. Thanks also for the invite, but I'd rather fix the bouncy ride before towing the boat again, and even your offer of icy beverages won't sway me. It is NOT fun to be in this thing bucking up and down, with a 2000lb sailboat filling the rear view mirror. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] Rear suspension rebuild
Forgot to mention the car... '79 300SD, W116 chassis. On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, John Robbins wrote: Listers, Been trying to avoid working on my rear suspension, but a chunk of rubber broke loose or something yesterday, which makes the car VERY hard to drive in a straight line. I already have all the parts for a rear end rebuild (trailing arm bushings, driveshaft everything, subframe bushings differential and tranny mounts, etc etc) and am wondering if I can simply follow the manual for the repairs. The manual calls for the complete removal of the rear axles is this really necessary? Any tips/tricks/comments/etc? And I do have the proper spring compressor... so that at least isn't a problem. Thanks!!! John ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
I use a big screw driver and it will pop right off. You can remove the ball stud and try another one to see if it won't turn down on you. It should only turn with a fair amount of force.
Re: [MBZ] this should be of interest to somebody
I'd know the difference, believe me. I didn't look at the picture.
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
Having never done this before, where do you apply the big screw driver to pop it off? Thanks benzbarn George -- Original message -- I use a big screw driver and it will pop right off. You can remove the ball stud and try another one to see if it won't turn down on you. It should only turn with a fair amount of force.---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
Re: [MBZ] URGENT Need for Viton fuel hoses in Puget Sound
--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't comment on your VW, other than to wonder where you get your B50, and if it might be B40/M10 from not removing the methanol. I get 1/2 a tank of B100 (99 lately, actually) from a CFN cardlock station in Oly and then fill 'er up with petrol diesel. When our TDI had the same problem, I did suspect the fuel, so I brought a sample to my mechanic who said he could test it, but he reported no problems (I do suspect, however, that the age of the fuel I get there might be an issue). Personally, I'm now convinced it's primarily the heat (which is the best explanation I got at the TDIClub biodiesel forum): it only just started to get into the upper 80's around here; I've been stuck in traffic in the heat alot recently (and when I'm not I push the engine, if you know what I mean); and though still far from the red, just before my wife noticed the puddle under my car, I noticed my temperature reading was a little higher than I usually see it. As Viton is rated to withstand temps up to 550degF, I'll place my faith in it. I do wonder what hose your indy used on the 240D. Did it have a cloth sheath on it? Yes; for the courtesy of your address, I'd be happy to send you (and any other interested readers) a piece to examine. DG P.S. for redghost: Bow Wow does not inventory Viton tubing - good thing I called before I went there. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes
I've had to use the pantyhose on occasion also but only after my wife found them in the glove compartment. On 7/26/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard said... FWIW, a friend locally tried panty hose for the same trick and failed miserably. Said he spent more time picking nylon out of the pulley system than he did putting on a new belt (c: Did he take 'em off first GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 1985 380SL
Re: [MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes
Were they your wife's? Of course when I replace belts I keep the old set in truck on top of spare tire. Then I always have replacements in a pinch. Of course since I replace belts as maintenance I have never had to use spares. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desert Rat Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes I've had to use the pantyhose on occasion also but only after my wife found them in the glove compartment. On 7/26/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard said... FWIW, a friend locally tried panty hose for the same trick and failed miserably. Said he spent more time picking nylon out of the pulley system than he did putting on a new belt (c: Did he take 'em off first GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 1985 380SL ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Tips on Replacing A/C Condenser (124)?
I will be swapping out the A/C condenser in my '95 E300D soon. The process looks pretty straight forward, but I was currious if the radiator has to be completely removed (per the manual) or if it could be unclipped and tipped enough to allow the condenser to slip out. If I have to drain and remove the radiator completely, it obviously adds a significant amount of time and effort to the job. Can anyone who as done this chime in on the radiator issue? I'm pretty sure it's the same process on all '89 and later 124 chassis cars with the double aux. fans. Are there any other gotchas to worry about? Thanks. J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)
I bet. What class is the boat? My ride would have been considered 'hard bouncy'. Hard to describe unless you were in the car. If I hit any bump with any load in the rear, the bounce came from the springs after the SLS spheres 'bottomed out'. That is how I imagined what was going on based on the feel. The spheres have a small orifice in them. Behind the orifice is a rubber ball full of nitrogen. I suppose the 'shock absorber' effect is created by the orfice only allowing so much hydraulinc fluid to move back and forth, compressing and relaxing the ball. So order a set of spheres from Rusty then leave the boat there, and head up for the icy beverages, writing off the fuel as a test run for the spheres. I have an old Highlander we can use as a platform for beverage consumption (c: Richard --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, Thanks for the info. So, your car was also bouncy when the spheres needed to be replaced? I thought that the failure mode for those was a hard ride, not bouncy. Is there some valving that goes on inside those? I think that their function in the system is basically the same as shock absorbers in a normal suspension set-up, so it would make sense that they would have some valving like a shock absorber. Thanks also for the invite, but I'd rather fix the bouncy ride before towing the boat again, and even your offer of icy beverages won't sway me. It is NOT fun to be in this thing bucking up and down, with a 2000lb sailboat filling the rear view mirror. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
I kind of stick it under the rocker and pry up and sideways all at the same time. The cam lobe needs to be pointing up so it's not under any load.
Re: [MBZ] Creative v-belt substitutes
Oh, I could have done that, I guess. When I had the engine out for rebuild a couple of falls ago, you would think I would put new belts on it as I put it back together. I knew the thing had seen *zero* preventative maintenance before I got it. I knew the belts had at least 100K on them. But I reused the old belts anyway. It would've been a horrible waste of money on new belts if the engine had cratered after the rebuild!! I rocket back and forth to work in this heap, about 18 miles total, all backwoods NC. There's an autozone about 20 minutes away from the house. So spare parts etc was not the issue. I simply did not want to lay around in the weeds on the side of the road fixing belts. I would rather tow the car home. Now my wife's car, a 96 caravan is a different story. I have a spare in it, and the single wrench it takes to change it. Can be done in about 5 minutes, and simpler than the tie wraps. Oh I guess the tie wraps would be a pretty dismal failure on a serp belt anyway (c: Richard Vice President of the Jalopinists of NC Salisbury Branch --- Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course when I replace belts I keep the old set in truck on top of spare tire. Then I always have replacements in a pinch. Of course since I replace belts as maintenance I have never had to use spares. Regards, Trampas Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
I used a 5mm allen wrench in order to took off the cam followers on my M130 engine. Just insert the short end od the 5 mm allen wrench in the hole of the cam follower that is over the adjuster, prying up using the long part as a support, when you lift the arm of the follower enough , pull it aside of the adjuster, then slide the follower out and took of the follower plate over the vavle. I hope this help, using this method you wont take any risk scratching any part with a tool. greetings Roberto
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
makes sense. cool. I'll give that a try -- Original message -- I kind of stick it under the rocker and pry up and sideways all at the same time. The cam lobe needs to be pointing up so it's not under any load.---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
Re: [MBZ] Cam followers
Cool. I'll look into that as well. -- Original message -- I used a 5mm allen wrench in order to took off the cam followers on my M130 engine. Just insert the short end od the 5 mm allen wrench in the hole of the cam follower that is over the adjuster, prying up using the long part as a support, when you lift the arm of the follower enough , pull it aside of the adjuster, then slide the follower out and took of the follower plate over the vavle. I hope this help, using this method you wont take any risk scratching any part with a tool. greetings Roberto---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
[MBZ] 1980 300D
I have been having trouble with the shifter lately. It is real loose and sometimes doesn't lock the tranny in park. Only starts in neutral alot of the time. I have read some about bushings or such there. I looked and there are three different ones. I know that they don't cost much and think I will buy them all. Can someone tell me what I am going to be going through to do this. I plan on using a lift for the job so I am not going to be laying down. Concerned about if I have to remove the console and lower the transmission? tia.. Douglas..
Re: [MBZ] No brake power after a short ride downhill
Thanks Thomas for your fast response but I am not sure if I made my self clear, the brake falire appear about ten minutes after I reached the base of the hill, during hevy traffic Roberto
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
No. I replaced just some plastic bushings in the end of the shift lever and in the end of the lever on the transmission--if I remember correctly. It has been several years since I did it. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgiels Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D thnks.. is this what you put on the shifter? http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/quote.jsp?clientid=buymbparts http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/quote.jsp?clientid=buymbpartscookieid=1KD0ZGKL41KQ107B7Jbaseurl=http://www.buymbparts.com/partner=buymbyear=1980product=J4070-11930application=30609 cookieid=1KD0ZGKL41KQ107B7Jbaseurl=http://www.buymbparts.com/partner=buymbyear=1980product=J4070-11930application=30609 I tried the link and it worked for me let me know. Douglas.. - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D I assume it is like my '81 300D. You do not need to remove the console; the bushings are at the ends of the shift rod beside the transmission--as I remember. They are cheap, but they are a pain to get installed. You have to force them into the holes on the shifter and the transmission, and you have little room beside the transmission. I almost ripped my fingernails out, but I finally got them installed. Good luck, Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgiels Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:43 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D I have been having trouble with the shifter lately. It is real loose and sometimes doesn't lock the tranny in park. Only starts in neutral alot of the time. I have read some about bushings or such there. I looked and there are three different ones. I know that they don't cost much and think I will buy them all. Can someone tell me what I am going to be going through to do this. I plan on using a lift for the job so I am not going to be laying down. Concerned about if I have to remove the console and lower the transmission? tia.. Douglas.. _ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
Ok thanks will look into bushings.. douglas.. - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D No. I replaced just some plastic bushings in the end of the shift lever and in the end of the lever on the transmission--if I remember correctly. It has been several years since I did it. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgiels Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D thnks.. is this what you put on the shifter? http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/quote.jsp?clientid=buymbpartscookieid=1KD0ZGKL41KQ107B7Jbaseurl=http://www.buymbparts.com/partner=buymbyear=1980product=J4070-11930application=30609 I tried the link and it worked for me let me know. Douglas.. - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D I assume it is like my '81 300D. You do not need to remove the console; the bushings are at the ends of the shift rod beside the transmission--as I remember. They are cheap, but they are a pain to get installed. You have to force them into the holes on the shifter and the transmission, and you have little room beside the transmission. I almost ripped my fingernails out, but I finally got them installed. Good luck, Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgiels Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:43 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D I have been having trouble with the shifter lately. It is real loose and sometimes doesn't lock the tranny in park. Only starts in neutral alot of the time. I have read some about bushings or such there. I looked and there are three different ones. I know that they don't cost much and think I will buy them all. Can someone tell me what I am going to be going through to do this. I plan on using a lift for the job so I am not going to be laying down. Concerned about if I have to remove the console and lower the transmission? tia.. Douglas.. -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [db] Tips on Replacing A/C Condenser (124)?
JB the older I get the more I realize that time can actually be spent by moving stuff completely out of the way... I watch good mechanics do this all the time and think to myself, why bother? I can wiggle in there... and then I realize that I've taken much longer to do the job and drop stuff down in crevices and so on... sometimes it's just easier and quicker to remove stuff... When doing the fuel injectors on the '92 XJ 4.0L I removed the stuff in the way and it went a lot faster... you know, I think Mr. Murphy watches to see if we take short cuts... :) if we do, he tries to help. :) john On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, J.B. Hebert wrote: --I will be swapping out the A/C condenser in my '95 E300D soon. The process --looks pretty straight forward, but I was currious if the radiator has to be --completely removed (per the manual) or if it could be unclipped and tipped --enough to allow the condenser to slip out. If I have to drain and remove --the radiator completely, it obviously adds a significant amount of time and --effort to the job. Can anyone who as done this chime in on the radiator --issue? I'm pretty sure it's the same process on all '89 and later 124 --chassis cars with the double aux. fans. Are there any other gotchas to --worry about? -- --Thanks. -- -- --J.B. Hebert -- --Current Vehicles: -- --'76 Ford Bronco --'78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 --'80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe --'82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) --'93 GMC Sierra 2500 --'95 Mercedes E300D -- - ** http://tech-meister.com http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** -