Re: [MBZ] dash vent Light Repair - 91 300D
Thanks Peter! Sounds like I need to ask my doctor for a spare vascular
clamp! ;-)
I assume MB has a special tool for this - they seem to be *so* fond of
creating the need for special tools!
Oh well - sounds like a Saturday afternoon project - or maybe I'll let the
dealer change it for me.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] dash vent Light Repair - 91 300D
There is a bulb in the back, and you must remove the vent to get to it.
There are four pinhole clips visible through the front -- you must
find something fairly sturdy to lift these while pulling the entire
vent toward you. It will be stuck, so go gently and DO NOT pull on the
outside trim -- this is just a plastic molding and it will snap along
the holes that retain the vanes. I used a vascular clamp since it will
hook in (curved jaws) and a small Trox driver. The vascular clamp let
me pull directly on the clip. Naturally, you need to pull all four
toward the center at once -- I do the two on bottom or top , then the
others alternately until they stay up.
Once it comes out, the bulb is in a little snap retainer on the side.
Press the outside part in and pull -- it's sticky. Bulb is a tiny one
with no base -- take it with you to the parts store as there are
several near the same size and the all won't fit. The factory bulb is
frosted, all the replacements I've found are clear, but I can't tell
any difference.
To reinstall, just push back into place. Make sure you have the duct
started correctly.
If you have a noisy interior temp sensor blower, it's right under the
vent and can be removed and installed through the hole, I think -- good
time to do it (both W124's at my house have a bad one).
Make sure it works before you put the vent back in, the bulb can seat
without making good connection, and it's a pain to get to. The center
vent should also light up, ditto for the markings around the headlight
switch. Center vent has a pair of clips like the side vents, but also
a screw revealed when the glove box door is open (may not be true if
you have a passenger side airbag and no glove box). You also must
unscrew the closing mechanism to get the center vent out.
Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Tightness
Ah. very good. I like what I hear about the 123 in this message. I don't like that the consensus seems to be that my suspension is worn out. I am ready for this thing to stop acting like a money pit. So essentially, the inside corner of the car will rise as a warning to the driver (I know - sounds obvious). But you seem to be saying that it was designed to rise as a warning rather than being tighter, which would allow the rear end to come around more easily. On the type of cars I grew up with ( U.S. muscle) we were always shooting for less body roll in cornering. We would test by pressing down on one corner of the front and seeing how much the other side followed - the more the better. Of course one of these 17 foot long sleds without any front sway bar had roll-a-plenty so roll was the enemy. We would also unhook he sway bar when drag racing, thus allowing the front end to rise as much as possible, shifting weight to the rear. Sounds like you're into road track racing Peter. Thanks for the info. Brian 83 240D On 3/5/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roll oversteer means that the rear end will steer into the turn as the body leans over. What this does is limit the speed at which the car will corner as the back end starts to come around. This incidentally unloads the OUTSIDE tire (the one taking most of the load in this case) by reducing the slip angle -- and the tightness of the turn. Since the front end sway bar is pretty heavy, this will also lift the inside rear corner, and can even lift the inside front tire, all with the intended consequence of making the driver slow down! The jacking sensation at the rear is a warning you are approaching the handling limit of the car, with plenty of time. End result is that the W123 won't corner was well as the W115/114 at the same speed, but you won't blow the outside tire off the rim, either -- needless to say, THAT will reduce handling to near zero!. W115/114 chassis cars handle FLAT, very little body roll, quite nice, but I've both been warned about the tire unmount and talked to people it happened to -- lucky, there were no trees when he ran off the road. Roll oversteer is very easy for the driver to feel and to compensate for (lift the accelerator, for instance), and the car remains stable and in control. Benz may have overdone it in the W123, but after all, these are really luxury rides, not sports cars. The W124 does indeed handle better (by the numbers generated), but is somewhat less forgiving. Overdrive it hard enough and the rear end loses traction before the front does, and it goes end for end with nowhere near as much warning as the W123. It also is harder to get back under control when this happens, too -- less margin for error. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
Brian: Unless you are running downhill in the mountains with your foot floored, you are very unlikely to test the handling limits of a 240 D. Less body roll will overload the outside front tire and force it off the rim, at which point the car will proceed, completely out of control of the driver, on the tangent of the curve you are on. No steering, no brakes, etc. Not fun, often fatal. sloppy handling, with swooping motions, means something is loose, either steering components or suspension components. You need to check, on that car, steering linkage (including idler arm busings), front brake support rods (otherwise known as track rods) -- the body side bushings are usually shot by now -- front sway bar at the upper control arm (often broken, hard to see with the wheels on), wheel bearings, and ball joints. Loose suspension components make it swoop. Check shocks, too -- bad shocks make it roll faster (not further). Missing rear swaybar links, also quite common, make it roll a huge amount, this may in fact be part of your problem. They were gone on my 220D when I got in in 1996, close to the same age. Drove really weird until I got them replaced. Cheap, too -- $18 each. Also, jack the rear wheels up and check for play in the rear wheel bearings and rear control arm bushings. If the wheel moves back and forth easily, the bushings are out and it's really swoopy -- torque steer in both directions. I know, they went on the 220D. A Benz that old, especially if not maintained properly before you got it, ain't gonna be cheap. Not low maintenance cars, really -- they can be pretty good for a long time, but do require quite a bit or work around 25 years or 250,000 miles.. hehe -- nothing else seems to last that long! Peter
Re: [MBZ] Dome light circuit 1981300SD
I cleaned and traded switches to avail. I have two switches in the drivers door. One was broken off and unplugged. I replaced I get it get a constant buzz, which is probably why it was busted off. Is the warning module located next to Cruise Control Amplifier in the driver footwell? It is, and has a 12-pin connector. It controls the dome lamp delay and contains the warning buzzer. There is a diode inside that, if blown, will prevent the driver's door from running the lamp. Mine is dead, I'm busy raiding the junkbox to try to find a diode that will work. Banging the module on a table restored the buzzer to operation. Sticky! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Carfax?/doin'
Actually, it is being torn down for parts next weekend. My buddy got a better replacement and needs the trans from the Pa car. He had it rebuilt last year. All in all it has served well and lots of goodies will be going into both our cars and the rest will be for sale. Engine is great, I will be putting it in my white 300TD in Tn. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - Odd that the tranny went; it was replaced about a year before the car was stored. Then again, with the indies here who knows what got put in that car. At least the good bits will live on. Tony
[MBZ] *sigh*
If its not one thing its another. For the final step of selling my 240D my wife informed me we couldn't sell it with the driver's door handle being sticky. I'd gotten good at slapping it back but she decided since we like the people we're selling to it'd need to be fixed. Easy peasy, no problem there. I even tried to do the check strap (which I'd been putting off) but couldn't drive the pin out and besides I was cold. So we're about to deliver the car. I'll drive the 240D and my wife will follow in the 190D but she can't get the seat to go forward (electric seat). The same seat which worked fine for me when I was troubleshooting the broken spring earlier. I can get it to go forward but then once its too far forward (oops) I can't get it to go back. Well crap. So after a good long time fiddling I give up and go into the switch. Well first you have to take the door apart. Whomever decided to change how the door goes together should be shot. Anybody go a light tan W201 driver's side door inside? I broke all the clips but 2. Every other door I've ever had off pulled out. Hint W201 doors come apart *up*. Then when I opened the switch little balls and bits fell everywhere and I was too cold and frustrated to get 'em back in. I just worked 'em in long enough to get the seat semi comfortable (semi, its too far back) and then threw 'em all in the map pocket so the seat wouldn't be flopping around like a drunk when I tried to put the switch back. So tomorrow Rusty is going to get a call from me and my Visa company will surely love me again. Fortunately I've got next Monday off with no honey-do projects -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 01:26:47 2006 Received: from web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.44]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG4Up-000301-6b for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:26:47 + Received: (qmail 13420 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2006 01:26:42 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P8IYRCU/FtSix7CGCsWF95YZLSEyIvz9U+yJ0a8vrYwfEDA68/0JByCoIDK5MUPNsHTBgRlrkxUedlsSVOuot0vt6PLzYUAkQ/K25JCgI5+wZsE41kS39p1aqi0voo8gDtMcMxwJcI0d6/kQMF2xHImmbZO5ytl3bfhU7rKi/zc= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [24.91.231.59] by web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:26:42 PST Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Hood release X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:26:47 - Its really surprising whats available new. I was looking the dash piece around the center vents for my 190D on eBay when I noticed Rusty had 'em for something like $60. The ones on eBay were running around $40 and I figure they're just as brittle as what I have... -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:52:28 -0500 From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Hood release To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 It's like $8 new. Come on. They're cheap enough, why not order one from Rusty? Listed for $8.77 on Rusty's website. Err? Sorry. I didn't expect to find such a body part from Rusty. And I didn't even think about going to the dealer. Last part I bought from a dealer for Old Paint, was one of those pins that holds the front brake pads in place. That stupid pin cost $20+. Thanks for the info. I'll just order a new one. Ned Kleinhenz** - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 01:29:49 2006 Received: from web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.44]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG4Xl-0003Lx-Fu for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:29:49 + Received:
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
peter, do you also have words to say over the 126? i was a bit distressed twice this last weekend on a great trip from spokane to port townsend, wa where my '86 300sdl was not handling as usual...it felt as if the right front was diving into hard turns...but the left side did well...these turns were at about 80mph on the good freeway off the top of a pass... i have two studded tires on the rear that are different than the frontthe tire pressure is correct, and the steering is tight. perhaps you have generalisations concerning this chasis?? tha nx jjj -- Original message -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roll oversteer means that the rear end will steer into the turn as the body leans over. What this does is limit the speed at which the car will corner as the back end starts to come around. This incidentally unloads the OUTSIDE tire (the one taking most of the load in this case) by reducing the slip angle -- and the tightness of the turn. Since the front end sway bar is pretty heavy, this will also lift the inside rear corner, and can even lift the inside front tire, all with the intended consequence of making the driver slow down! The jacking sensation at the rear is a warning you are approaching the handling limit of the car, with plenty of time. End result is that the W123 won't corner was well as the W115/114 at the same speed, but you won't blow the outside tire off the rim, either -- needless to say, THAT will reduce handling to near zero!. W115/114 chassis cars handle FLAT, very little body roll, quite nice, but I've both been warned about the tire unmount and talked to people it happened to -- lucky, there were no trees when he ran off the road. Roll oversteer is very easy for the driver to feel and to compensate for (lift the accelerator, for instance), and the car remains stable and in control. Benz may have overdone it in the W123, but after all, these are really luxury rides, not sports cars. The W124 does indeed handle better (by the numbers generated), but is somewhat less forgiving. Overdrive it hard enough and the rear end loses traction before the front does, and it goes end for end with nowhere near as much warning as the W123. It also is harder to get back under control when this happens, too -- less margin for error. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 02:07:55 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG58d-0006M5-8j for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:07:55 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2628SFQ026647 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:08:28 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:07:50 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:08:29 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:07:55 - first you have to take the door apart. Whomever decided to change how the door goes together should be shot. Anybody go a light tan W201 driver's side door inside? I broke all the clips but 2. Every other door I've ever had off pulled out. The newer the design, the less easy it is to take it apart without breaking it. 124, 126, and 201 doors are hard. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Dome light circuit 1981300SD
buzz, which is probably why it was busted off. Is the warning module located next to Cruise Control Amplifier in the driver footwell? The replaced diode made the left door run the light again, and enabled the key and light warning buzzers. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sort of half planning this summer to run a bead of weld across each one and whack it with a chisel so they shatter. The tractor sat for 40 years after all... Why would you want to do that instead of try to get it to run again? Jim Cathey's generator experience should show you the possibilities. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peter, do you also have words to say over the 126? i was a bit distressed twice this last weekend on a great trip from spokane to port townsend, wa where my '86 300sdl was not handling as usual...it felt as if the right front was diving into hard turns...but the left side did well...these turns were at about 80mph on the good freeway off the top of a pass... i have two studded tires on the rear that are different than the frontthe tire pressure is correct, and the steering is tight. perhaps you have generalisations concerning this chasis?? PLEASE do not drive a Mercedes without identical tires on all 4 wheels! Mercedes strongly cautions against it and I have PROVEN to my satisfaction that it's dangerous. I doubt that the tire were YOUR problem. I expect your car is worn/broken. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
Curt Raymond wrote: I have a '28 Farmall Regular which has steel pistons. If I can ever get the dammed things out I'll take a picture. Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty Hercules generator?
[MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Has anyone replaced the two hoses going to the heater core in a 107
chassis ('78 450SLC) ???
The hose clamps at the core end of these are turned so that they face
the door posts and are under the hoses. I'm not even sure that
removing the air inlet grills in front of the windshield will give
access to the screw heads.
I'm replacing as many of the rubber hoses as I can before I install
the engine - much easier to get to a lot of them while standing in the
engine compartment, except these two --
P/Ns for the hoses are 107 831 14 94 and 107 831 15 94. I have the
new hoses (thanks, Rusty), but can't get the core end clamps off --
TIA -
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Switching to gmail for MB list
Luther has been an Opera fanatic ever since the last OkieQ -- something about nothing being over until someone sang. Not sure of the significance. On 3/5/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OPERA!! www.opera.com Luther, multi-year veteran of Opera use On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:14:58 -0600, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:41 PM, OK Don wrote: Windows, being an operating system, doesn't do that (threading email). Some email programs do, some don't - you get to choose I should have asked what applications that run on Windows show threaded messages? This was mentioned as a good reason to go G-Mail, it seemed to be a novelty to whoever posted it. Are there any other benefits to G-Mail over what I'm using (Mac Mail 2.0.5)? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Our son was driving the '90 300D 2.5 this evening, and decided that the radio required more attention than the road - he clipped the corner of a drive curb and ruined both Right side wheels and tires. This car has the later (when did they start?) 8 hole wheels - making it look newer than it is. I'd like to find two or three of these wheels for my son to buy for me -- Any one have some spares? Kaleb? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] I have seen it all now
Had a call from somebody with a car that they wanted to get rid of. Went to look at it. Threw a rod thru the side of the block. They fixed the hole by screwing a piece of sheet metal over the hole sealed with silicone. The guy who has it is just working on it for the owner. Told the guy how much it was worth ($100 max) (116 300SD), said he would pass it along to the owner but the owner thinks the car is worth $500 as it sits(crappy paint, crappy interior, cracked windshield, bad engine but no rust). -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
better dig deep in the wallet OK Don wrote: Our son was driving the '90 300D 2.5 this evening, and decided that the radio required more attention than the road - he clipped the corner of a drive curb and ruined both Right side wheels and tires. This car has the later (when did they start?) 8 hole wheels - making it look newer than it is. I'd like to find two or three of these wheels for my son to buy for me -- Any one have some spares? Kaleb? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I have seen it all now
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Threw a rod thru the side of the block. They fixed the hole by screwing a piece of sheet metal over the hole sealed with silicone. That might have been the way they kept the oil inside while they drove home. Some people will go to great lengths to avoid paying a tow bill.
Re: [MBZ] I have seen it all now
Uh, no, this is how they are planning on putting the motor back together. Already replaced the bad rod and did this to close up the hole. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Threw a rod thru the side of the block. They fixed the hole by screwing a piece of sheet metal over the hole sealed with silicone. That might have been the way they kept the oil inside while they drove home. Some people will go to great lengths to avoid paying a tow bill. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Switching to gmail for MB list
Sorry LT, but you're wrong. I've liked the musical genre opera since I was a little kid (20+ years). The browser Opera has been on my favorite list for more than 3 years now. It's my primary. On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:50:37 -0600, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther has been an Opera fanatic ever since the last OkieQ -- something about nothing being over until someone sang. Not sure of the significance. On 3/5/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OPERA!! www.opera.com Luther, multi-year veteran of Opera use On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:14:58 -0600, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
OK Don wrote: Our son was driving the '90 300D 2.5 this evening, and decided that the radio required more attention than the road - he clipped the corner of a drive curb and ruined both Right side wheels and tires. This car has the later (when did they start?) 8 hole wheels - making it look newer than it is. I'd like to find two or three of these wheels for my son to buy for me -- Any one have some spares? Kaleb? There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: So tomorrow Rusty is going to get a call from me and my Visa company will surely love me again. Fortunately I've got next Monday off with no honey-do projects -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi You can glue the clips back on if you didn't break them. You could probably glue the clips if you did break them. The one at the bottom of the pull strap commonly breaks. Available at the dealer. I have epoxied a washer in that to repair. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Switching to gmail for MB list
Outlook 2003 will - sort by subject - However, as Casey said - Gmail lets you keep all this traffic in one place, and your other email somewhere else. Being web based, you can get it from anywhere -- and there is the Google search built in - handy sometimes. On 3/5/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:41 PM, OK Don wrote: Windows, being an operating system, doesn't do that (threading email). Some email programs do, some don't - you get to choose I should have asked what applications that run on Windows show threaded messages? This was mentioned as a good reason to go G-Mail, it seemed to be a novelty to whoever posted it. Are there any other benefits to G-Mail over what I'm using (Mac Mail 2.0.5)? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
My snow tires are on those wheels - they are very close to the factory rims. If I can't get a couple of factory wheels, I go the Tire Rack route. I don't like the fact that they use different lug bolts though -- I like to keep such things standard. There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased. Marshall -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
You can glue the clips back on if you didn't break them. You could probably glue the clips if you did break them. The one at the bottom of the pull strap commonly breaks. Available at the dealer. I have epoxied a washer in that to repair. Epoxy is a poor choice for flexible items, it pops loose because it doesn't 'give'. I've been very impressed with Shoe Goo for those. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I have seen it all now
Had a call from somebody with a car that they wanted to get rid of. Went to look at it. Threw a rod thru the side of the block. They fixed the hole by screwing a piece of sheet metal over the hole sealed with silicone. The guy who has it is just working on it for the owner. Told I suppose the true test of the quality of the repair is how long it actually holds up. It can look like hell but still work well. (Look at half of us! :-) the guy how much it was worth ($100 max) (116 300SD), said he would pass it along to the owner but the owner thinks the car is worth $500 as it sits(crappy paint, crappy interior, cracked windshield, bad engine but no rust). As a restoration candidate, if it is actually rust-free maybe it's worth something like that? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: The newer the design, the less easy it is to take it apart without breaking it. 124, 126, and 201 doors are hard. -- Jim Sometimes it pays to read the manual even for seemingly simple jobs. I part-way did the same thing Curt did the first time I pulled a 201 door panel with the customer standing right there. luckily he thought it was part of the dance. I glued the 2 clips that pulled off, back on while I replaced his window regulator. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Has anyone replaced the two hoses going to the heater core in a 107
chassis ('78 450SLC) ???
Big PITA to get to. I unhooked the ones on my wife's SL when
I was diving into it. I think I had to remove the air grilles
_and_ the recirculation flaps before I could get a screwdriver
onto them. (Yes, I had the dash out too. And seats, and
console... but I don't think you need to go quite that far!)
-- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
I have a '28 Farmall Regular which has steel pistons. If I can ever get the dammed things out I'll take a picture. Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty Hercules generator? But they were aluminum pistons, and were untouched by the corrosion. So I was ahead by half right there. Electrolysis would be an easy thing to try first, it's nearly free and only takes a little bit of time and electricity. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
so, if it might be broken...what do you think it might be?? -- Original message -- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peter, do you also have words to say over the 126? i was a bit distressed twice this last weekend on a great trip from spokane to port townsend, wa where my '86 300sdl was not handling as usual...it felt as if the right front was diving into hard turns...but the left side did well...these turns were at about 80mph on the good freeway off the top of a pass... i have two studded tires on the rear that are different than the frontthe tire pressure is correct, and the steering is tight. perhaps you have generalisations concerning this chasis?? PLEASE do not drive a Mercedes without identical tires on all 4 wheels! Mercedes strongly cautions against it and I have PROVEN to my satisfaction that it's dangerous. I doubt that the tire were YOUR problem. I expect your car is worn/broken. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 03:50:52 2006 Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG6kF-0006wI-VO for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:50:52 + Received: from dialup-4.224.66.58.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.66.58] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FG6kE-s5-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:50:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:45:15 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:50:52 - The suspension on the W126 is pretty much identical to that on the W123. Check guide rods (if it groans on speed bumps or clunks going into reverse they are bad), rear sway bar links, front sway bar at the upper control arm, and for loose control arm bushings. I would guess the rear sway bar, but that is only a guess. A bad shock up front will cause it to feel like it's diving -- a bad sway bar will affect both sides, not just one. Peter
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Hard? Crikey, those are the EASIEST door panels I've every dealt with! Just pry off the trim, remove the top armrest screw, unclip the latch bucket, remove the seat switch bits, and unscrew the lock button and lift off. Takes me all of three minutes (needless to say, I've done a few). Lots of broken hooks in the bottom of the doors, no one ever looks in the manual to check, I suppose. both of my 124 chassis cars have had door panels pried off -- had to replace the right rear this year because the armrest pulled away. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:50 PM, OK Don wrote: P/Ns for the hoses are 107 831 14 94 and 107 831 15 94. I have the new hoses (thanks, Rusty), but can't get the core end clamps off -- TIA - -- OK Don, KD5NRO Don, Would you be able to get a gear wrench or maybe even a 1/4 drive ratchet in there? Stock hex is 7mm. If pillips, a bit in a 1/4 socket or gear wrench. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
thanx...how to diagnose a bad shock? -- Original message -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The suspension on the W126 is pretty much identical to that on the W123. Check guide rods (if it groans on speed bumps or clunks going into reverse they are bad), rear sway bar links, front sway bar at the upper control arm, and for loose control arm bushings. I would guess the rear sway bar, but that is only a guess. A bad shock up front will cause it to feel like it's diving -- a bad sway bar will affect both sides, not just one. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 04:00:40 2006 Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG6tj-0007yo-O6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:00:40 + DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nrK8OKtNcYCoiORYDUlAZbyP9nQb2aYKT4xwTiXENh9qIwxk6N0uf7iWwslgaNFa; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.110.128.59] (helo=[192.168.2.74]) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FG6tj-0002AF-6P for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:00:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:00:37 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-ELNK-Trace: b3baf86f04a51c2f0f36c4a2948c83129ef193a6bfc3dd48e8d6aec5165598b45d50a7fee55e10852601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.110.128.59 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have seen it all now X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:00:40 - On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Had a call from somebody with a car that they wanted to get rid of. Went to look at it. Threw a rod thru the side of the block. They fixed the hole by screwing a piece of sheet metal over the hole sealed with silicone. The guy who has it is just working on it for the owner. Told the guy how much it was worth ($100 max) (116 300SD), said he would pass it along to the owner but the owner thinks the car is worth $500 as it sits(crappy paint, crappy interior, cracked windshield, bad engine but no rust). -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK I need the radiator and maybe the cooler too. Even though it probably has metal in it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
hi all first let me say i love my mercedes i however have found it necessary to gasp buy a ...BMW .. ( now i know this is absolutely sacrilegious guys ...be easy on me please) i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) and is there a group list like this one on the Internet i absolutely refuse to even look at a lexus /Infiniti ( drug dealer cars ) how ever i am quite taken with that bmw look any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:00:29 -0500 MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ordered nice Pioneer for my 1981 300SD from Crutchfield. It even came with a free wiring harness and OE speaker wire connections Mike http://www.crutchfield.com I went there, liked what I saw (boy, are there a lot of choices!), and called them (Need Help Deciding? 888-955-6000). The lady who answered a few minutes ago (they're open until midnight) was very knowledgeable. I mentioned that out here in New Mexico I needed a good tuner and, with our dark roads, didn't want something with a gaudy front panel. She directed me to the Pioneer DEH-2800MP CD player with MP3/WMA playback Item #130DEH2800 for $124.99 (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-s72X4uFYzHQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300id=e ssential_infoi=130DEH2800#Tab ). I looked at the specs and placed my order. Three day shipping was only $3 extra, so I took that, too. Thanks for the tip on Crutchfield. Craig
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Epoxy is a poor choice for flexible items, it pops loose because it doesn't 'give'. I've been very impressed with Shoe Goo for those. -- Jim I have used epoxy on the flexible glue spots with success but I'm going to get some shoe goo. Epoxy didn't seem right but that was the available glue. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Tried that already - failed to even get the tip onto the screw head. I have a couple of ratchet, 90 degree screw drivers, and couln't get them there -- real PITA positioning. Since tha hoses aren't ridgid yet, I might go ahead and install the engine, and worry about them later -- On 3/5/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:50 PM, OK Don wrote: P/Ns for the hoses are 107 831 14 94 and 107 831 15 94. I have the new hoses (thanks, Rusty), but can't get the core end clamps off -- TIA - -- OK Don, KD5NRO Don, Would you be able to get a gear wrench or maybe even a 1/4 drive ratchet in there? Stock hex is 7mm. If pillips, a bit in a 1/4 socket or gear wrench. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Where does one find this magical Shoe Goo -- sounds like a must have item? On 3/5/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Epoxy is a poor choice for flexible items, it pops loose because it doesn't 'give'. I've been very impressed with Shoe Goo for those. -- Jim I have used epoxy on the flexible glue spots with success but I'm going to get some shoe goo. Epoxy didn't seem right but that was the available glue. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanx...how to diagnose a bad shock? First look for oil on the rod or on the body of the shock. Bounce the car a few times and if it keeps bouncing some it needs them. If it feels really wishy-washy it may need shocks. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Adsit has some for $150 each. Don't know what you're looking to pay -
www.adsitco.com
don't know about the quality - the price is from their RT advert.
No affiliation, etc.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Our son was driving the '90 300D 2.5 this evening, and decided that
the radio required more attention than the road - he clipped the
corner of a drive curb and ruined both Right side wheels and tires.
This car has the later (when did they start?) 8 hole wheels - making
it look newer than it is. I'd like to find two or three of these
wheels for my son to buy for me -- Any one have some spares? Kaleb?
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Might they be these? http://tinyurl.com/p4rvh or http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUpwheelIndex=19sizeIndex=0showRear=nosetIndex=3filterSize=filterFinish=filterSpecial= There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased. Marshall -- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Where does one find this magical Shoe Goo -- sounds like a must have item? Pretty much any hardware store carries it here. There is a line of variations that may in fact be exactly the same stuff. Household Goo, etc. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
cause it to feel like it's diving -- a bad sway bar will affect both sides, not just one. What about a broken sway bar that catches when the break is pushed together? Wouldn't that be asymmetrical? I'd think you'd hear noises though. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Ok - there are two choices at Tire Rack -- a Borbot 8 hole isn't listed today. http://tinyurl.com/ntqtt and http://tinyurl.com/p4rvh Any reason to choose ASA vs. AT other than price? There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased. Marshall -- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:30:59 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - there are two choices at Tire Rack -- a Borbot 8 hole isn't listed today. http://tinyurl.com/ntqtt and http://tinyurl.com/p4rvh Any reason to choose ASA vs. AT other than price? Those are 5 hole, not 8 hole: Additional Specs Bolt Pattern: 5-112 Craig
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
A new chain will be peened, and the old chain would have the clip link. At least that is how the chain from Rusty came to me, and IIRC, the list has mentioned the need to peen or use the special chain tool. also not to reuse the clip link On Thursday, March 2, 2006, at 06:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Hint. Don't stop. I never saw one get so bad that it wouldn't drive somewhat normal. Saw plenty of blown chains/engines. I don't understand. What shouldn't I stop? I don't want to buy a chain if it's already got a new one in it that is misinstalled. But how to detect this... -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] coolant light?
I fired up my 300D tonight at 11:30, and for about 1/2 a mile, the coolant light was on. The light then magically went off. No, I didn't add any coolant in between, and this has never happened before. Is there any explanation for this? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Don, couple of months ago I did the same thing to the W140 (no son to blame!). Tires were fair, wheels were fair to poor and found out that the PO had 8 on the rear and 7.5 on the frt. So, I was already making plans to start over. For about 800 bucks, TR sold me 4 new knock-off wheels and 4 Kuhmo Tires, mounted and balanced. Drop shipped to the local MB dealer in 2 days and I was back on the road. Luckily, I had no body or suspension damage. It has been a perfect installation and have been extremely happy with no need to take it back for adjustments. Yes, I do have a set of lugs for the spare tucked away but at least all 4 wheels are now of the same variety. If you're going used, be sure to get the right offset. The 8 holes where used on the W140 and the C class as well. On 3/5/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My snow tires are on those wheels - they are very close to the factory rims. If I can't get a couple of factory wheels, I go the Tire Rack route. I don't like the fact that they use different lug bolts though -- I like to keep such things standard. There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased. Marshall -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
A new chain will be peened, and the old chain would have the clip link. At least that is how the chain from Rusty came to me, and IIRC, the list has mentioned the need to peen or use the special chain tool. also not to reuse the clip link I found no clip link, nor signs of sloppy peening. Could well be the factory swaged chain still there. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] coolant light?
I fired up my 300D tonight at 11:30, and for about 1/2 a mile, the coolant light was on. The light then magically went off. No, I didn't add any coolant in between, and this has never happened before. Assuming coolant isn't indeed low, the level sensors have been known to get sticky with age. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
snip i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) snip any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Yeah, don't do it. I had an older five series that was an absolute money pit. I have heard nothing but horror stories about the newer Bimmers, esp. the 7 series. Resale is absolute crap on them for a reason. When I first drove my 123 coupe, the behind the wheel similarities were scary. However, the Benz is a MUCH better car. If you have to have an up-scale luxury ride, buy a MB W140. My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] coolant light?
Yes, it might be that you are low in the coolant deptarment and as the coolant got hot it expanded to activate the sensor. Check your coolant when engine is cold and adjust as necessary. Also it could be that your sensor is covered in crap and playing up. Hendrik with no coolant sensor in my classic not plastic machine - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] coolant light? I fired up my 300D tonight at 11:30, and for about 1/2 a mile, the coolant light was on. The light then magically went off. No, I didn't add any coolant in between, and this has never happened before. Is there any explanation for this? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 1/03/2006
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
Kick him off Kaleb. Traitorous fool that he is. Hendrik who would rather push the Merc than drive a money waster - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... hi all first let me say i love my mercedes i however have found it necessary to gasp buy a ...BMW .. ( now i know this is absolutely sacrilegious guys ...be easy on me please) i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) and is there a group list like this one on the Internet i absolutely refuse to even look at a lexus /Infiniti ( drug dealer cars ) how ever i am quite taken with that bmw look any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 1/03/2006
[MBZ] Removing rusted pistons, was Re: MELT?
Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty Hercules generator? No, but I have the links... http://cathey.dogear.com/genset.html http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
Have to agree with Rick. Ny best friend had a 98 740iL. At the time, he said it was the best car he's ever had. And I had a blast driving it a couple times. Then he had to start paying for maintenance. And a lot of electronics. He got rid of it after a couple years. After a break from BMW, he got a 530i he really liked, and last year got a 645Ci. But he won't keep them after the warranty expires. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... snip i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) snip any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Yeah, don't do it. I had an older five series that was an absolute money pit. I have heard nothing but horror stories about the newer Bimmers, esp. the 7 series. Resale is absolute crap on them for a reason. When I first drove my 123 coupe, the behind the wheel similarities were scary. However, the Benz is a MUCH better car. If you have to have an up-scale luxury ride, buy a MB W140. My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Lines (more) archives
Thanks to all who replied to my questions about replacing the oil cooler lines on our 82 300TDt. Bellsouth had been bouncing my mail even though the box was not nearly full -- thanks to the easy to search archives I was able to find your answers. Finally got started but have only had a short time here and there to work on them. The fittings were easier to break loose than I expected. (I had started to remove the lines from a parts car and they were tough to break loose.) Being able to get the hood straight up allows plenty of room for a piece of pipe to lever the wrench for the initial turn. I have the left motor mount almost off. Tjohn mentioned taking the motor mounts off. I was thinking that only the left one needs to come off, right? Richard Murdoch 82 240D 82 300TDt
Re: [MBZ] Motor Mount Shock
Is there any way to evaluate / check a motor mount shock while it is off the car (82 300TDt). TIA Richard Murdoch 82 240D 82 300TDt
Re: [MBZ] Motor Mount Shock
Is there any way to evaluate / check a motor mount shock while it is off the car (82 300TDt). It should be stiff. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Don - That is one thing I haven't had to replace yet on my '81 SL. Should be very much the same setup as your '80 SL. I didn't go out and look at them, but couldn't you just cut the clamps with a Dremel to get the old ones off and then install new clamps in a more accessible location? Barry Tried that already - failed to even get the tip onto the screw head. I have a couple of ratchet, 90 degree screw drivers, and couln't get them there -- real PITA positioning. Since tha hoses aren't ridgid yet, I might go ahead and install the engine, and worry about them later --
Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading
Thats cool. Wish I had a 123 with that low of mileage :):) I used to have one (this probably doesnt count) of my wife's old corolla at 131313 miles. shortly thereafter it developed an allergy to the clutch (started slipping real bad)... given its advanced stage of skin cancer, it wasn't worth it :( (The engine was replaced at 40-45k due to a cracked block, fwiw) (ob-rice-bash) I have one of my E300 at 11 :) -j.
[MBZ] another cheap MB W115 possibility
Well, I've been going back and forth on this 220D project should I fix it, should I part it out? Well, I'm parting her out. However, I think I may have found a car that can benefit from some donor parts. It's a 1974 240D auto. It's straight and rust free, original paint that seems like it'll buff out ok, interior better than my 220D, but there's something going on with the IP. The car will start up fine with some diesel in the intake, but it either isn't delivering enough fuel to the injectors or not all of the delivery valves are pumping. I don't really believe his story that it was rebuilt but still isn't right (that's a lot of money to throw away). The guy wants to know what it's worth to me. I paid $100 for the one I have now that doesn't even run with diesel poured down its snout where this one does. This one also has the added bonuses of euro headlights, an in-trunk auxiliary fuel tank and a power sunroof as well as AC and power steering. So, what do y'all think that this one is worth considering that my IP can fix the problem or that the original IP can be made to work? I really do like the W115 body style, and since I don't have a lot of money to buy one that's in top shape, I want to find one cheap enough but still worth putting some sweat equity into it as Jim Cathey seems to be resourceful enough to do. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parts donor, perhaps
Re: [MBZ] 190D parts
Rick Knoble wrote: Only if they have nothing to do with the engine or the wrecked right front body parts. I also want to keep the 2.65 differential. Tranny is available, as is the burgundy interior and three good silver doors. A/c condenser and associated fans. I don't know why I didn't see this when you sent it. I'll see what I can do after I tear into it in April. I should have one extra set, but I don't know if I'll end up using the 2.3-16 condensor or the 190D-t.
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Hmmm -- perhaps. The blower fan would have to come out to get the Dremel tool in there -- I'll take another look and see --- On 3/6/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - That is one thing I haven't had to replace yet on my '81 SL. Should be very much the same setup as your '80 SL. I didn't go out and look at them, but couldn't you just cut the clamps with a Dremel to get the old ones off and then install new clamps in a more accessible location? Barry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: better dig deep in the wallet Good thing the kid's paying for it, eh? I suppose I could sell him a couple of the 5 hole rims off my 2.3-16: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 38_1.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 36185 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060305/37e475b7/38_1.jpg
[MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
Last night I changed a broken accelerator pedal on my 87 300SDL. All I did was remove the two floor mats, then replaced the pedal. Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the master key with red dot would help. Locked unlocked the car, started and shut it off, lock an unlocked the alarm was still sounding or would start again. Not much help reading the owners manual. Is there a wire or switch I could have knocked off putting the floor mats in? I started the car after replacing the pedal an move the car and it was fine. Any suggesting? Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
you do know that if you buy aftermarket look a like wheels you will have to use their special lug bolts. The factory ones will not work. OK Don wrote: Ok - there are two choices at Tire Rack -- a Borbot 8 hole isn't listed today. http://tinyurl.com/ntqtt and http://tinyurl.com/p4rvh Any reason to choose ASA vs. AT other than price? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
Git a rope Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... hi all first let me say i love my mercedes i however have found it necessary to gasp buy a ...BMW .. ( now i know this is absolutely sacrilegious guys ...be easy on me please) i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) and is there a group list like this one on the Internet i absolutely refuse to even look at a lexus /Infiniti ( drug dealer cars ) how ever i am quite taken with that bmw look any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another cheap MB W115 possibility
the shutoff leaver/cable on the side of the pump is out of adjustment and not fulling going to the run position. kevin kraly wrote: Well, I've been going back and forth on this 220D project should I fix it, should I part it out? Well, I'm parting her out. However, I think I may have found a car that can benefit from some donor parts. It's a 1974 240D auto. It's straight and rust free, original paint that seems like it'll buff out ok, interior better than my 220D, but there's something going on with the IP. The car will start up fine with some diesel in the intake, but it either isn't delivering enough fuel to the injectors or not all of the delivery valves are pumping. I don't really believe his story that it was rebuilt but still isn't right (that's a lot of money to throw away). The guy wants to know what it's worth to me. I paid $100 for the one I have now that doesn't even run with diesel poured down its snout where this one does. This one also has the added bonuses of euro headlights, an in-trunk auxiliary fuel tank and a power sunroof as well as AC and power steering. So, what do y'all think that this one is worth considering that my IP can fix the problem or that the original IP can be made to work? I really do like the W115 body style, and since I don't have a lot of money to buy one that's in top shape, I want to find one cheap enough but still worth putting some sweat equity into it as Jim Cathey seems to be resourceful enough to do. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parts donor, perhaps ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the master key with red dot would help. Did you try the other two locks? All will operate the alarm, but for obvious reasons one of them gets a _lot_ more wear! I think it was pure coincidence. This, btw, is one big reason I've installed a keyless remote in our SDL. Saves wear and tear on the locks. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] another cheap MB W115 possibility
Well, I've been going back and forth on this 220D project should I fix it, should I part it out? Well, I'm parting her out. However, I think I may I have a neighbor that's going to be putting together the Blackberry Farm 115 I passed on to him. I'll let him know. He went with me to the U-Pull on spec, but found little of interest on the 123's that were there. He did bring home two wheels and tires, he did need a spare. Oh, I know he wants a factory tire jack. And _I_ am still looking for another factory wheel wrench, the one with _two_ bends in it that snaps into the two clips in the trunk. So, what do y'all think that this one is worth considering that my IP can fix the problem or that the original IP can be made to work? I really do Honestly I don't think any of 'em is worth very much given their general chewed-ness by now and their propensity to rust. And an automatic transmission is something of a liability IMHO given my recent experiences with that 240D. Unless it was rust-free and would shine up real nice it's probably only worth a few hundred at most. Non-running really cuts the price, in general. like the W115 body style, and since I don't have a lot of money to buy one I really like them too. that's in top shape, I want to find one cheap enough but still worth putting some sweat equity into it as Jim Cathey seems to be resourceful enough to do. Nit: what I _do_ and what is _worth_doing_ are two separate propositions! The jury is still out. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Tightness
For all its faults my 240D had a good tight steering box and handled really well. Watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service to see a great MB vs Stupid '60s American car chase. Although the American car undoubtably has a monster engine it handles like a pig. Of course thats an older MB, the movie came out in '69. My 190D feels like its on rails... Totally different ride than a 123 car. Truth be told I find the 123 a bit more comfortable. -Curt Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:05 -0800 (PST) From: michael smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I had the same problem with my 78 280SE, Mercedes uses a zero offset steering geometry and when it is new it is fastastic...as most people do not change their fluids they do not wear well as it is alot of stress on the components...buy a rebuilt kit and a spare box and have it restored...then install it (best to pay somebody) and the difference is amazing. There is also a flexi joint in the steering column which tends to be a culprit...Best of luck Mike in San Diego Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allright, now it's getting late, I've walked the dogs, the wife is out of town, and I've had a few beers. So I have the courage to ask: I notice many listers speak of how tight and great the 124s handle. Can I just say that driving my 123 is like piloting a pontoon compared to driving my 84 Saab? I know, I know they're designed for somewhat different purposes, but still, the very loose steering bugs the crap out of me. Jumping in the 900 after driving the 240 for so long resulted in over revving and over steering. I understand the steering gear can be tightened some via an adjusting nut? But adjust it too far and risk steering box damage? I'm betting that my Saab handles about as well as the 124s. NOT trying to be confrontational, I love my 240 dearly. Brian 83 240D Hate to say it, the Saab may get better mileage too - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 15:02:41 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGHEP-0001cT-8L for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:02:41 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k26F3FGw016229 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:03:16 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:02:39 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:03:16 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:02:41 - Odd fact: the threads on a grease gun mate with those on a brake caliper. Need a way to safely remove the pucks from a sticky caliper? Buy a cheap hand-pump greaser and put brake fluid in it. Use a C clamp to hold in the puck you're not working on. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement
Don - Blower fan removal is not a big deal. A word to the wise though, do NOT try and remove the rubber gasket or seal under the blower fan. I tried and wished that I hadn't. I could never get a new one back correctly in place and because of that I now get a little whistling wind noise when the blower is on high speed. I think to get it to fit properly into place you need to remove or at least loosen the dash assy. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 heater hoses replacement Hmmm -- perhaps. The blower fan would have to come out to get the Dremel tool in there -- I'll take another look and see --- On 3/6/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - That is one thing I haven't had to replace yet on my '81 SL. Should be very much the same setup as your '80 SL. I didn't go out and look at them, but couldn't you just cut the clamps with a Dremel to get the old ones off and then install new clamps in a more accessible location? Barry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
I intend to get it to run again, it was my great-grandfathers... However I intend to get it to run again with new pistons. These have sat in the exact same place for something like 40 years. I expect thats longer than Jim's generator has existed... I've tried better living through chemistry and time for nearly 5 years now. I've used used motor oil, marvel oil, PB Blaster, gun scrubber, Coca Cola, kerosene and lately WD-40 because its cheap in gallon jugs. Nothing has enabled the pistons to move one little bit. The next two attempts involve getting an oxy acetalyne torch and/or putting diesel in the cylinders and setting it on fire. If heat doesn't help I'll weld (to harden) the pistons and break 'em. Replacement pistons are well over $100 apiece but I'd like to rebuild the engine during my lifetime... -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:11:20 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sort of half planning this summer to run a bead of weld across each one and whack it with a chisel so they shatter. The tractor sat for 40 years after all... Why would you want to do that instead of try to get it to run again? Jim Cathey's generator experience should show you the possibilities. Craig __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 15:53:19 2006 Received: from web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.37]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGI1P-0007Bf-JA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:53:19 + Received: (qmail 74620 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2006 15:53:15 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cdmT+XJghegr8hGis+0Gl5BQqbC7Jldrv4IFIWGaQpURa0ZbZ9K0DovcHoa1G0zdz0b/12BKL71HUoIp8wJb3q/s73LGYm1xZwWyLffhGbdz8T6H6BkMA3rkYFle7goX70BskC4u/9rlFrhAuC2SsSDkNx7ha7Es5SLKISffj58= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:53:15 PST Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:53:15 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:53:19 - I just remembered you have a crane to help move the block around with too. I have no idea how heavy the block is on the tractor but it was everything 3 of us could handle to take the head off. That bugger must weigh 200# by itself... 4 cylinder cast iron engine. 12hp IIRC. -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:36:07 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I have a '28 Farmall Regular which has steel pistons. If I can ever get the dammed things out I'll take a picture. Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty Hercules generator? But they were aluminum pistons, and were untouched by the corrosion. So I was ahead by half right there. Electrolysis would be an easy thing to try first, it's nearly free and only takes a little bit of time and electricity. -- Jim - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 15:53:45 2006 Received: from smtp2.williams.com ([151.142.221.60]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGI1p-0007Cv-14 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:53:45 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2006 09:53:41 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+k=
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Uhh, 123 door panels pry off, 201 door panels slide up. Trust me on this one... Also 123 door panels are plastic so you can get away with some rough handling, 201 panels are pressboard and quite fragile I'm finding. I was not tickled with how annoying the interior door handle was to figure out. I should probably get the CD for this car, the Haynes manual was moderately helpful on the 240D the other day... -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:49:00 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hard? Crikey, those are the EASIEST door panels I've every dealt with! Just pry off the trim, remove the top armrest screw, unclip the latch bucket, remove the seat switch bits, and unscrew the lock button and lift off. Takes me all of three minutes (needless to say, I've done a few). Lots of broken hooks in the bottom of the doors, no one ever looks in the manual to check, I suppose. both of my 124 chassis cars have had door panels pried off -- had to replace the right rear this year because the armrest pulled away. Peter - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 15:58:14 2006 Received: from web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.36]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGI6A-0007b9-Fg for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:58:14 + Received: (qmail 5134 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2006 15:58:10 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SFfx2r4jIYeIDYzgi7bLtbZgEIUYVeWqmgyUJI6rOUeYPlx58tHAjcGalA3n81UMLdcBh44efH8Z8IrfP8xu/Qy1Qzzu6OW2zhEWwW78qtNe1NRTs6Byi0j63gparhmvEJibUXpnieV49DiY/W8AfHVFLJYj9Pu6RYhj173EgtM= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:58:10 PST Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:58:10 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:58:15 - Isn't that the 12cyl maintenance and repair nightmare? Actually I'll admit I was gazing upon a BMW today. Musta been a quite new one, cherry red, pretty lady driving it. Then I pressed on the go pedal and took off (190D remember). Why do people have performance cars and drive like weenies? -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:02:54 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII hi all first let me say i love my mercedes i however have found it necessary to gasp buy a ...BMW .. ( now i know this is absolutely sacrilegious guys ...be easy on me please) i was looking at a 97 or 98 740 il ( black naturally ) i have no intention of giving up my beloved sec my question is ... do they hold up like mercedes 126 cars ( does anything?) and is there a group list like this one on the Internet i absolutely refuse to even look at a lexus /Infiniti ( drug dealer cars ) how ever i am quite taken with that bmw look any suggestions thanks collins phila pa 1985 500 sec - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 15:59:08 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGI71-0007e1-Q8 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:59:08 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20060306155903m12001b514e; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:59:03 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:59:02 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization:
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adsit has some for $150 each. Don't know what you're looking to pay - www.adsitco.com don't know about the quality - the price is from their RT advert. I STRONGLY recommend NOT dealing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
Jim, Mine is as you described-crossing the firewall and then back over the top to the IP-pix to follow off list. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon I'd be happy to take and send you pictures of the throttle linkage of my '79 240D. I am not sure if I have that type of linkage you are looking for or not-mine is a series of rods with pivots that goes over top of the valve cover. If that's it' let me know and I'll happy to shoot and send. My brother has a 78 which might have the earlier type of linkage. That's it, probably. Both vintages have bunches of Rube Goldberg crap on top of the valve cover, the difference is on which side the throttle pedal force is applied. In the older style the linkage runs along the firewall to the right side, forward to a pivot at the exhaust manifold, up (via a dogleg) to the valve cover, over the top, then finally down to the IP. There's extra crap bolted here and there for cruise, idle adjust, stop lever, AT. This as described is the one I'm looking for, detailed photos of the mess at the top specifically. (You can see how this is handy for throttle-plate-equipped machines like gassers or older diesels like the Frankenheap, where most of that linkage needn't be there.) The newer style has the linkage run forward (as a torque rod) from the firewall, and then is linked here and there upwards to the valve cover for whatever reasons. I have examples of this style, no photos are required. Thanks! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
I'm getting in on this thread way late, but you think this might work? I have no idea... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? I intend to get it to run again, it was my great-grandfathers... However I intend to get it to run again with new pistons. These have sat in the exact same place for something like 40 years. I expect thats longer than Jim's generator has existed... I've tried better living through chemistry and time for nearly 5 years now. I've used used motor oil, marvel oil, PB Blaster, gun scrubber, Coca Cola, kerosene and lately WD-40 because its cheap in gallon jugs. Nothing has enabled the pistons to move one little bit. The next two attempts involve getting an oxy acetalyne torch and/or putting diesel in the cylinders and setting it on fire. If heat doesn't help I'll weld (to harden) the pistons and break 'em. Replacement pistons are well over $100 apiece but I'd like to rebuild the engine during my lifetime... -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:11:20 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sort of half planning this summer to run a bead of weld across each one and whack it with a chisel so they shatter. The tractor sat for 40 years after all... Why would you want to do that instead of try to get it to run again? Jim Cathey's generator experience should show you the possibilities. Craig __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
AMEN! Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adsit has some for $150 each. Don't know what you're looking to pay - www.adsitco.com don't know about the quality - the price is from their RT advert. I STRONGLY recommend NOT dealing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
Actually I have and its one reason I've held off on the rr on the head. It is a good way to break rods though so I'm thinking to try heat first. Also thinking the next time a tool show comes to town I'll pick up 3 more 5 ton bottle jacks, they're handy to have around anyway. A couple years ago Dad and I setup a bottle jack pushing down on a piston (with a chain around the block so it could push down). I think this would be more effective with 4 jacks. Plus heat, plus more magic stuff in the cylinders. Its gonna be a group effort. The worst thing is that the tractor is at my parents house in Maine, thats 180 odd miles from where I live. I really need to take a week off from work and just set my mind to the task. -Curt Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:54:02 -0600 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you tried injecting grease into the cylinder through the spark plug hole using a high-pressure grease gun (The air-driven ones put out about 10,000 psig pressure.) I have heard (and seen pictures) of this method used on old engines. You will have to make an adapter to get the zerk fitting/spark plug connection. Tom Potter - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 06 16:19:50 2006 Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGIR3-0001ds-RP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:19:49 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id 5.266.6e0c160 (58677) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:19:39 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:19:50 - NO thats is the 750il AND yeah they are a nightmare i am mulling over a 740 V8 collins phila 1985 500 sec In a message dated 3/6/2006 10:58:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't that the 12cyl maintenance and repair nightmare? Actually I'll admit I was gazing upon a BMW today. Musta been a quite new one, cherry red, pretty lady driving it. Then I pressed on the go pedal and took off (190D remember). Why do people have performance cars and drive like weenies? -Curt
[MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the master key with red dot would help. Did you try the other two locks? All will operate the alarm, but for obvious reasons one of them gets a _lot_ more wear! I think it was pure coincidence. This, btw, is one big reason I've installed a keyless remote in our SDL. Saves wear and tear on the locks. -- Jim I did not. I'll try the passenger front door and the trunk lock when I go home for lunch. Maybe even disconnect the battery if that fails. Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
Robert i am not giving up my allegiance to the three pointed star i need a car i can rack up miles on i cannot drive my sec and get a lot of useless miles on ( and i have a secret reason too!!!) but thats another story collins 1985 500 sec In a message dated 3/6/2006 9:28:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Git a rope Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] sacrilege i know ...
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
However I intend to get it to run again with new pistons. These have sat in the exact same place for something like 40 years. I expect thats longer than Jim's generator has existed... The Kohler is about 1965 vintage. So there! I've tried better living through chemistry and time for nearly 5 years now. I've used used motor oil, marvel oil, PB Blaster, gun scrubber, Coca Cola, kerosene and lately WD-40 because its cheap in gallon jugs. Nothing has enabled the pistons to move one little bit. Kano Kroil is what my engine shop recommends as the best bug juice out there for loosening rusted engines. PB would be my next choice down (I have both). The electrolysis trick is so easy to do it would be worth an attempt. Really. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
I'll try the passenger front door and the trunk lock when I go home for lunch. IIRC this suggestion is even in the owner's manual. -- Jim
[MBZ] OT Ebay sux hates Mac users
Trying to post stuff on ebay this weekend and no go. Just drops you when trying to post a photo with my trusty mac. I get thinking I am doing it all wrong. Turns out eBay is doing it all wrong. Maybe the Mac folks need to start a site dedicated to mac users selling things. This is what I got from ebay when I complained--- Hello, Thank you for reporting that you're being wrongly redirected to the HOme Page when listing your items -- we've had several other such reports from Safari users. If you are experiencing problems loading images using the Safari browser and you are using OS X 10.3.x or higher, I would like to suggest using the Firefox browser. This browser seems to be the most compatible format for Macintosh users for eBay Picture Services. If you don't already have this browser installed on your computer, please visit the following page to download the Firefox browser: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/all Once the page loads, please select which language you would like to download, and click on the link under the Mac OS X column. If you are using OS X 10.2.8 or older, I would then recommend using the Netscape browser. If you don't have this browser installed on your computer, please visit the following page: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/download/archive72x.jsp I'm sorry that you had this problem and I do hope that I was helpful to you in resolving it. We value your membership in our community and we appreciate you choosing eBay for your online trading needs. Regards, Bridget eBay Picture Service Support -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
Actually I have and its one reason I've held off on the rr on the head. It is a good way to break rods though so I'm thinking to try heat first. You don't do it with the rod connected, or at least not with it near TDC or BDC. The worst thing is that the tractor is at my parents house in Maine, thats 180 odd miles from where I live. Bring it home? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
I'm getting in on this thread way late, but you think this might work? I have no idea... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm That _is_ the trick. Yeah, it works. Not so great when the rust is trapped inside, like between a cylinder wall and a piston, but still... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] sacrilege.... i know ...
Why do people have performance cars and drive like weenies? Don't know, but I lost count of the number of cars I 'smoked' off the line in my 60 Falcon. Right up there with a 240D I'd think. I wasn't even particularly trying to do anything, just go. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
out. I should probably get the CD for this car, the Haynes manual was moderately helpful on the 240D the other day... In spite of having a copy of the factory CD, the Haynes is quite useful to me. It has schematics you can read. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT Ebay sux hates Mac users
On 3/6/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to post stuff on ebay this weekend and no go. Just drops you when trying to post a photo with my trusty mac. I get thinking I am doing it all wrong. Turns out eBay is doing it all wrong. Maybe the Mac folks need to start a site dedicated to mac users selling things. This is what I got from ebay when I complained--- I use GarageSale from www.iwascoding.com. No more clicking through endless pages on eBay. Well worth the shareware fee for the time it saves you if you're putting up more than a couple auctions. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Troooper
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adsit has some for $150 each. Don't know what you're looking to pay - www.adsitco.com don't know about the quality - the price is from their RT advert. I STRONGLY recommend NOT dealing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marshall I've gotten decent used 15 wheels from Potomac German Auto for much less than that, $50 or so plus shipping. They were the 16-hole (?) stock early 124 style. Would the 8-holers be priced much differently? (I know they're rarer, but still...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
The standard 8-hole wheels (15 x 6.5) for a W124 should be pretty easy to locate either new or used, and shouldn't be that expensive, either. Call Potomac German Auto (PGA) for a price on used wheels, Rusty for new OE, or try Tire Rack for new aftermarket. Caution: The 1995 wheels are brushed aluminum finish with clearcoat, the previous (93-94 I think?) are painted silver color. Minor difference, but noticeable if you have one of each on the same side of the car, lol! BTW - I'd avoid Adsit like the plague. There are a bazillion horror stories about those clowns on most Mercedes web forums. Buy new stuff from Rusty, and for one-stop shopping for used parts, PGA is the way to go. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:22:18 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: better dig deep in the wallet Good thing the kid's paying for it, eh? I suppose I could sell him a couple of the 5 hole rims off my 2.3-16:
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
Just disable the bloody thing. It does basically no good anyway. (Think about it- when was the last time you heard a car alarm - ANY car alarm - and rushed out to go see what was the matter?) Find the black box labaled Becker and unplug all connectors. On a W124, it's located under the passenger's feet against the firwall, next to the red SRS connector. I'm not sure where it is on a W126 but I bet Kleb or someone else can edify us. If you really want to diagnose fix it, I'd start by replacing the switch contacts on the driver's lock cylinder. (yes, the switch is available separately, no you don't need a whole new lock, like I had been told many moons ago...) =) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:23:53 -0600 From: Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System Last night I changed a broken accelerator pedal on my 87 300SDL. All I did was remove the two floor mats, then replaced the pedal. Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the master key with red dot would help. Locked unlocked the car, started and shut it off, lock an unlocked the alarm was still sounding or would start again. Not much help reading the owners manual. Is there a wire or switch I could have knocked off putting the floor mats in? I started the car after replacing the pedal an move the car and it was fine. Any suggestions? Roger
Re: [MBZ] Mag case
Peter Frederick wrote: The 914 and (worse) the 916 were known for engine fires -- engine compartment was very hot, and degraded the injection lines, causing fuel leaks. Boom. The 914 was also infamous for rust, at least in the areas I lived in where the roads were heavily salted. They would get so bad the doors would jam if someone heavy sat in the car.
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Huh? I wouldn't touch a 124 or 201 without the factory service manual, or at least the Haynes. Otherwise you could end up breaking things. ;-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:56:00 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Uhh, 123 door panels pry off, 201 door panels slide up. Trust me on this one... Also 123 door panels are plastic so you can get away with some rough handling, 201 panels are pressboard and quite fragile I'm finding. I was not tickled with how annoying the interior door handle was to figure out. I should probably get the CD for this car, the Haynes manual was moderately helpful on the 240D the other day... -Curt
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
Same location for the W126 if it is a factory alarm. On 3/6/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just disable the bloody thing. It does basically no good anyway. (Think about it- when was the last time you heard a car alarm - ANY car alarm - and rushed out to go see what was the matter?) Find the black box labaled Becker and unplug all connectors. On a W124, it's located under the passenger's feet against the firwall, next to the red SRS connector. I'm not sure where it is on a W126 but I bet Kleb or someone else can edify us. If you really want to diagnose fix it, I'd start by replacing the switch contacts on the driver's lock cylinder. (yes, the switch is available separately, no you don't need a whole new lock, like I had been told many moons ago...) =) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:23:53 -0600 From: Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System Last night I changed a broken accelerator pedal on my 87 300SDL. All I did was remove the two floor mats, then replaced the pedal. Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the master key with red dot would help. Locked unlocked the car, started and shut it off, lock an unlocked the alarm was still sounding or would start again. Not much help reading the owners manual. Is there a wire or switch I could have knocked off putting the floor mats in? I started the car after replacing the pedal an move the car and it was fine. Any suggestions? Roger ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
redghost wrote: A new chain will be peened, and the old chain would have the clip link. At least that is how the chain from Rusty came to me, and IIRC, the list has mentioned the need to peen or use the special chain tool. also not to reuse the clip link An original chain or one that's been replaced with a factory replacement in the last 10 or so years will NOT have a clip. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Pavement, etc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why is it when the TV newsreaders are breathlessly recounting some minor happening at the local flugplatz (mandatory MB talk), they always blather about the TARMAC. All the pavement (excluding the runways, one assumes) is tarmac tarmac tarmac. Yes, I know, short for tar macadam. So what? It's bleeding asphalt. Just a guess: A lot of aviation terminology comes from Europe. That's why we have so many French words: fuselage, nacelle, aileron, empennage. Tarmac strikes me as a potential Britishism that migrated over here. I have to say, though, that outside news reports I rarely hear tarmac. It seems like to pilots, if it's a paved surface, it's either a runway, a taxiway, or the ramp.
Re: [MBZ] Switching to gmail for MB list
John Berryman wrote: I should have asked what applications that run on Windows show threaded messages? Outlook 2000 and later sort of will. It's in the custom sort order menu, Group By/Conversation. Unfortunately it's not real threading -- it goes by the subject and not by the References: header. Thunderbird is my favorite mail client, and recent versions do threading quite well. It runs on Windows, Linux, and MacOS X, probably on BSD as well.
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Curt Raymond wrote: Uhh, 123 door panels pry off, 201 door panels slide up. Trust me on this one... Also 123 door panels are plastic so you can get away with some rough handling, 201 panels are pressboard and quite fragile I'm finding. I was not tickled with how annoying the interior door handle was to figure out. I should probably get the CD for this car, the Haynes manual was moderately helpful on the 240D the other day... The entire 201 CD is available here: http://mb.braingears.com/201_Chassis.htm The site CAN be browser touchy and is sometimes slow, but I expect you could download it (though I'm not quite sure how). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels
Ok Don wrote: Our son was driving the '90 300D 2.5 this evening, and decided that the radio required more attention than the road - he clipped the corner of a drive curb and ruined both Right side wheels and tires. This car has the later (when did they start?) 8 hole wheels - making it look newer than it is. I'd like to find two or three of these wheels for my son to buy for me -- Any one have some spares? Kaleb? I was gone Friday and through the weekend so when I returned I had over 130 emails to go through. You may have received a satisfactory answer already, but I believe that the previous owner (previous to me) got the snow tire wheels at Tire Rack and they match the factory ones (other than the different lug bolts). I bet you could get two new Tire rack wheels. You could then take the snow tires off the tire rack wheels and you would have four matching wheels that have the different bolts. I guess that would mean you would use the OEM wheels for the snow tires. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
Re: [MBZ] Motor Mount Shock
Richard Murdoch wrote: Is there any way to evaluate / check a motor mount shock while it is off the car (82 300TDt). The only check I know of is does it have resistance to rapid movement. No resistance = no good. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
