[MBZ] Antique dual Petrol / Diesel engine
Check this out , pity there is no modern version! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/3614/diesel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month
I have no relatives in Arkansas. Luther On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:50:55 -0700, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you are slammin Luther's cousin! At 07:28 PM 6/20/2007, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1983-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ160128892270QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month
Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. And he probably believes all the shrub tells him! http://www.unknownnews.net/bushisaliar.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C sealers
Yep, it actually happened. Guy named Trace in Lewisville, TX. Not sure when he disappeared from the list, but he ended up rebuilding that engine. Even he admitted that it was a pretty freakish incident, though. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 6/20/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib wrote: You use AutoFrost in a diesel? Is that a hydrocarbon blend? Didn't someone on the old DIESEL list recount a disaster when his propane/isobutane charged AC burst a hose and his engine ran away when it started breathing the gasses? I remember something about that. I don't remember if it actually happened or if people were talking about if it could happen. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Antique dual Petrol / Diesel engine
The US Army ran some multi-fuel vehicles for years. In theory, they would run an anything from gas to oil. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Antique dual Petrol / Diesel engine Check this out , pity there is no modern version! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/3614/diesel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Which Oil?
So if I was to make one of these with a Benz engine, which oil would I use? It's the first day of summer y'all! --R http://www.flickr.com/photos/scascot/sets/72157600391051179/detail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month
yea Loren Faeth wrote: Hey, you are slammin Luther's cousin! At 07:28 PM 6/20/2007, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1983-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ160128892270QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Oil?
Use Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Happy summer. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Which Oil? So if I was to make one of these with a Benz engine, which oil would I use? It's the first day of summer y'all! --R http://www.flickr.com/photos/scascot/sets/72157600391051179/detail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoking/idling problems
Brain farts happen to everyone!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2007 5:53:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 87 has hydraulic valves which do not require adjustment Yea, Kaleb, you are right. Brain fart at my end. Jim ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month
So that really tall guy is NOT your father? Luther (in Reno) wrote: I have no relatives in Arkansas. Luther On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:50:55 -0700, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you are slammin Luther's cousin! At 07:28 PM 6/20/2007, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1983-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ160128892270QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C sealers
Is that the same guy that was having some sort of problem with IP timing and removed and installed the IP several times trying to get it right? Gary Thompson wrote: Yep, it actually happened. Guy named Trace in Lewisville, TX. Not sure when he disappeared from the list, but he ended up rebuilding that engine. Even he admitted that it was a pretty freakish incident, though. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 6/20/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib wrote: You use AutoFrost in a diesel? Is that a hydrocarbon blend? Didn't someone on the old DIESEL list recount a disaster when his propane/isobutane charged AC burst a hose and his engine ran away when it started breathing the gasses? I remember something about that. I don't remember if it actually happened or if people were talking about if it could happen. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Well I did it again
This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Antique dual Petrol / Diesel engine
Yep The International MD tractors used the first engine in the link as did the TD 6, TD 9 TD14 and TD 18 crawler tractors of the time. During the 40s the TD-18 was the world's biggest crawler tractor. Yep, the biggest Cat was not built by Caterpillar, but by IH. The WWII Deuce and a half was dual fuel. gas, diesel or kerosene. I think they needed gas to start. I think the army had dual fuel up until the 70s at least. Our original IH H (1939) was dual fuel. Started on gasoline then ran on kerosene. At the time, kerosene was cheaper than gasoline. There are not many truly new ideas. Mostly people who study history find a neglected idea and recycle it. Even comedy. If you take away the foul language, most current comedy was done by Red Skelton or the 3 stooges who stole it from Laurel and Hardy or Charlie Chaplin who sole it from various burlesque performers who stole it from the riverboat entertainers/minstrel shows who stole it form the court jesters of old. Loren IH H x 2 et al At 01:47 AM 6/21/2007, you wrote: Check this out , pity there is no modern version! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/3614/diesel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Oil?
Diesel oil, of course! At 08:38 AM 6/21/2007, you wrote: So if I was to make one of these with a Benz engine, which oil would I use? It's the first day of summer y'all! --R http://www.flickr.com/photos/scascot/sets/72157600391051179/detail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C sealers
That's the guy. Was timing the pump 180 degrees out. Gary On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that the same guy that was having some sort of problem with IP timing and removed and installed the IP several times trying to get it right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Oops. EGR was an M104 issue... Gary On 6/21/07, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evap and wiring harness already done? EGR tube update done? How many miles? Yep, they're great when they're all sorted... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 139Kmiles On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Evap and wiring harness already done? EGR tube update done? How many miles? Yep, they're great when they're all sorted... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 139Kmiles On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Antique dual Petrol / Diesel engine
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:53:42 -0500 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep The International MD tractors used the first engine in the link as did the TD 6, TD 9 TD14 and TD 18 crawler tractors of the time. During the 40s the TD-18 was the world's biggest crawler tractor. Yep, the biggest Cat was not built by Caterpillar, but by http://www.tractorshed.com/contents/tpic9573.htm http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=7205 http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/results.asp?keyword1=international+TDsearch_type=basic Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month
Mitch, et al. I'd laugh, IF it were funny. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. And he probably believes all the shrub tells him! http://www.unknownnews.net/bushisaliar.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
How'd ya fund that for $500? You da man. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:57 AM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] Well I did it again This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C sealers
oh yea. That guy seemed to attract bad news though. Wonder where he went? Maybe he didnt transfer over from mbz.org Gary Thompson wrote: That's the guy. Was timing the pump 180 degrees out. Gary On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that the same guy that was having some sort of problem with IP timing and removed and installed the IP several times trying to get it right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
112k, dont think evap has been done, think I saw a ticking on wiring harness replacement. Even if not, I got it cheap enough that I could replace if need be. Dont know about the EGR tube, tell me about that update. Gary Thompson wrote: Evap and wiring harness already done? EGR tube update done? How many miles? Yep, they're great when they're all sorted... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 139Kmiles On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
OK Gary Thompson wrote: Oops. EGR was an M104 issue... Gary -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Moggish Spotted
Hi, All. Spotted by my youngest daughter. This Co. delivers oil to my ex. http://www.alliedfuel.com/ Fred Moir Lynn MA I love the smell of diesel in the mornings. (apologies to Robert Duval.) - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery fueld gauge, WAS Cordless?
This list is an ongoing seminar in that particular topic, among many others On 6/20/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Good to see that your appreciation of some humor has not diminished in the DC Summer heat/humidity... Take care, Chuck On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:22 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Well, I did enjoy the aroma of freedom fries in the exhaust for the 20 or so seconds it took for the V8 engine to seize ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
I need to find an E300 Diesel ('95 era vintage) for my freind, preferably
black, well-maintained and in the mid-Atlantic area..
On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK
Gary Thompson wrote:
Oops. EGR was an M104 issue...
Gary
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Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com Details, man, Details! Colors, pics, copy cancelled check for $500 etc... Tony Wirtel 92 300e/2.6 I DIDN'T get a v-8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How'd ya fund that for $500? I don't think he said he paid $500. However, if you have cash on hand and can make a decision on the spot (no let me have my mechanic check it out, let me get back to you after I run a carfax, etc.) you can sometimes get a spectacular deal from a seller who just wants to be rid of the car for some reason. I sold a VW Jetta for less than I could have simply because I wanted it off my insurance, out of my driveway, and somebody showed up with cash ready to pay on the spot. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
I don't think he said he paid $500. However, if you have cash on hand and can make a decision on the spot (no let me have my mechanic check it out, let me get back to you after I run a carfax, etc.) you can sometimes get a spectacular deal from a seller who just wants to be rid of the car for some reason. The correct quote I believe is Money talks bull$hit walks Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
EXACTLY Rick Knoble wrote: I don't think he said he paid $500. However, if you have cash on hand and can make a decision on the spot (no let me have my mechanic check it out, let me get back to you after I run a carfax, etc.) you can sometimes get a spectacular deal from a seller who just wants to be rid of the car for some reason. The correct quote I believe is Money talks bull$hit walks Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
white/grey leather Tony Wirtel wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com Details, man, Details! Colors, pics, copy cancelled check for $500 etc... Tony Wirtel 92 300e/2.6 I DIDN'T get a v-8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
More injector pump sealing. I pulled the rear plate and made a new paper gasket for it. Then I pulled out the idle regulator and found that its O-ring looked good, especially since I didn't have another one! (The HF O-ring kit doesn't go that big.) I don't think it would be too hard to replace on the car if I had to. I did dump all the oil out of it, I don't think it's supposed to fill up like it was. (Sitting it on its back will do that.) Finally I tipped the IP up on its nose and removed the bottom plate that covers the cam. It has a weird tapered wedge ring type of seal, and it was starting to look a little tired. I believe Casey said that on the 603 motors the big oil filter O-ring is a decent substitute. OK, but the 602, with one less cylinder, requires a smaller seal. I took one of the big O-rings and cut out about an inch with a razor blade, using a bias cut. I then glued the ends together with cyanoacrylate glue. (I have heard about this technique before, but this is the first time I have used it so far as I can remember.) The 'new and improved' O-ring fit into place over the 'bump' on the cover, I put the glue joint next to a mounting screw so that it would get a good tight pinch. I eased the cover into place and tightened down the screws. The cover tightened down all the way, the O-ring should have gotten well wedged into its tapered seat. We shall see if this works! I saved the old seal just in case, though if this leaks I think I should just try to buy a new seal. I finished up just as I ran out of time. It's just about time to start putting this pig back together! It seemed like I should record the pump's plate info for future (parts-ordering?) reference: PES 5M 55C 320 RS 159 (011) 642 90 362 0 400 075 976 (M) 602 070 04 01 ER 0011 Bosch The parentheses represent circles, the (M) is the mercedes logo. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
The correct quote I believe is Money talks bull$hit walks Another is Chance favors the prepared mind. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
White/grey leather what? E300 Diesel? On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: white/grey leather Tony Wirtel wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com Details, man, Details! Colors, pics, copy cancelled check for $500 etc... Tony Wirtel 92 300e/2.6 I DIDN'T get a v-8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Voltage
Just curious if anyone else has taken much look at their voltages. I picked up a cigarette lighter voltage meter at Wal-mart for like $15 that I'm intending to use in some solar tinkering, but I decided to leave it in my 83' 300D while it's not doing anything else. This has proved interesting. Now, first off I don't know what's suppose to be in the car. The dual-belt alternator that was in the car when I got it died a few weeks ago, but the car came with a working (wasn't sure till I got it on the car) used alternator that I believe said 55amp Bosch on it, but it was a single pulley until I figured out the right combination of spacers and nuts and the pulley from the other one to get it to use that dual pulley. I also checked it's readings compared to a volt meter on the battery and it seems to average around .2V less than the battery is seeing. But what I've seen is that basically with nothing on (except a fuel pump) I think it might make it to 14v given enough time. It stays near that level with the radio on (though I can definitely see it kick on and I should note that it has some crappy amp the PO left in there drawing power). The gauge reads to hundredths of a volt so I can see it when I turn the fuel pump or basically anything on. Turning headlights on is usually ok an keeps it above 13.2V usually. (and I'm basing most of these while running, not at idle) The big sucker is the blower and worse yet with AC on. Basically, it just can't keep up. If I have max AC on and I'm cruising the highway I can probably hold around 12.8V. If it actually gets things to a semi-cool state and the fan slows a bit I can clear 13V. Now, with headlights and AC on? That's like 12V. Now, come to idle with those on? You're dropping into the 11V range for sure. So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. I'm wondering if that actually occurs with a new/rebuilt alternator, or if these old beasts just don't quite keep up no matter what... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! My 190D has a 70A alternator, but unless you're running AC, max blower, and all the lights just about anything you have should keep the voltage up. Try a new brush pack/regulator. Or the used one from your old alternator, assuming that bad brushes wasn't what took it out in the first place. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as you're not much over that you should be good. Yeah, I forgot to mention those nice cold dark, foggy mornings. It really drops with AC/max fan, headlights, foglights, rear defroster, wiper, radio, etc... on... especially when you come to a stop and idle. (: I'm not likely to change it until it dies, but I'm interested to see that's where it's residing... Levi On 6/21/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! My 190D has a 70A alternator, but unless you're running AC, max blower, and all the lights just about anything you have should keep the voltage up. Try a new brush pack/regulator. Or the used one from your old alternator, assuming that bad brushes wasn't what took it out in the first place. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
It seems than at Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:34:17 -0700, Jim wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! I recall that the W123s are expecting the old chemistry batteries, and so 13.8 is the correct nominal voltage. But maybe my recall ability is malfunctioning... Oh, and do you really trust that meter? Do you happen to own (or know someone who owns) an good meter you can check it against? --Philip, sceptic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Yeah, that's why I was saying that it was reading about .2v lower than the battery was seeing(via my fairly decent regular voltmeter). Though I'd more likely attribute that to losses in the wiring between the battery and the cigarette lighter... Levi On 6/21/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:34:17 -0700, Jim wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V . You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! I recall that the W123s are expecting the old chemistry batteries, and so 13.8 is the correct nominal voltage. But maybe my recall ability is malfunctioning... Oh, and do you really trust that meter? Do you happen to own (or know someone who owns) an good meter you can check it against? --Philip, sceptic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Loosening PS Pump for Inner Belt Replacement
Which bolts do I loosen to be able to move the PS pump to be able to install AC belt? I can't see any that appear to be adjustable (could be my regular glasses are off getting new lenses and this old prescription is sad). As I look at it it makes me believe I have never done this before. We're supposed to be 115 or so for the fifth or sixth consecutive day and..well let's just say it's HOT. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 174K Magma Hot AZ-ville ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
I used one of these (from Autozone) for a while. Couple observations: The plug-in volt meter was not accurate, especially when hot (e.g. parked in sun) when it would read almost one volt high. Second, the voltage at the lighter will be low because of the IR drop through the fuses, wires, and ignition switch. The fact that the headlights don't greatly effect tour reading indicates you are seeing IR drop, mostly. So it's a slick, EZ to use tool that worked OK when cool and with minimal load on the circuits. If you are concerned, recommend you run some temp wires from a voltmeter inside the cabin direct to the battery. Then check it under various conditions. The recommendation to get a new brush-regulator is a good one. The new ones put out a bit more voltage for the new batteries. Even better (and more costly) bet a Bosch reman from Rusty. They are as good as new. Scott Ritchey 82 300SD 70 300TD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:51 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Voltage Just curious if anyone else has taken much look at their voltages. I picked up a cigarette lighter voltage meter at Wal-mart for like $15 that I'm intending to use in some solar tinkering, but I decided to leave it in my 83' 300D while it's not doing anything else. This has proved interesting. Now, first off I don't know what's suppose to be in the car. The dual-belt alternator that was in the car when I got it died a few weeks ago, but the car came with a working (wasn't sure till I got it on the car) used alternator that I believe said 55amp Bosch on it, but it was a single pulley until I figured out the right combination of spacers and nuts and the pulley from the other one to get it to use that dual pulley. I also checked it's readings compared to a volt meter on the battery and it seems to average around .2V less than the battery is seeing. But what I've seen is that basically with nothing on (except a fuel pump) I think it might make it to 14v given enough time. It stays near that level with the radio on (though I can definitely see it kick on and I should note that it has some crappy amp the PO left in there drawing power). The gauge reads to hundredths of a volt so I can see it when I turn the fuel pump or basically anything on. Turning headlights on is usually ok an keeps it above 13.2V usually. (and I'm basing most of these while running, not at idle) The big sucker is the blower and worse yet with AC on. Basically, it just can't keep up. If I have max AC on and I'm cruising the highway I can probably hold around 12.8V. If it actually gets things to a semi-cool state and the fan slows a bit I can clear 13V. Now, with headlights and AC on? That's like 12V. Now, come to idle with those on? You're dropping into the 11V range for sure. So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. I'm wondering if that actually occurs with a new/rebuilt alternator, or if these old beasts just don't quite keep up no matter what... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Yeahbut, getting to 11v is too low, that alternator (or more likely the regulator/brush whatsis) HAS failed... When you're at 11v you're pulling from the battery and if you do that for any extended amount of time or if you leave it drawn you'll ruin the battery. Seems like you should replace the alternator (or the regulator first and then the alternator if need be) now or replace the alternator AND battery soon. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:15 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as you're not much over that you should be good. Yeah, I forgot to mention those nice cold dark, foggy mornings. It really drops with AC/max fan, headlights, foglights, rear defroster, wiper, radio, etc... on... especially when you come to a stop and idle. (: I'm not likely to change it until it dies, but I'm interested to see that's where it's residing... Levi - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that's the right thing to do, but I'm not too worried, I'm just going to keep an eye on things and try to make sure that I'm not operating in that low voltage for too long. It just doesn't seem *that* bad (with a little monitoring on my part) and I REALLY don't feel like monkeying with it more and putting more money into it. (: Levi On 6/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeahbut, getting to 11v is too low, that alternator (or more likely the regulator/brush whatsis) HAS failed... When you're at 11v you're pulling from the battery and if you do that for any extended amount of time or if you leave it drawn you'll ruin the battery. Seems like you should replace the alternator (or the regulator first and then the alternator if need be) now or replace the alternator AND battery soon. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:15 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as you're not much over that you should be good. Yeah, I forgot to mention those nice cold dark, foggy mornings. It really drops with AC/max fan, headlights, foglights, rear defroster, wiper, radio, etc... on... especially when you come to a stop and idle. (: I'm not likely to change it until it dies, but I'm interested to see that's where it's residing... Levi - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Well, as the original message said, its a E420 andrew strasfogel wrote: White/grey leather what? E300 Diesel? On 6/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: white/grey leather Tony Wirtel wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. I have had quite a few 124's, even bought a 94 E320 back when it was about a year old. The E420 is WAY more powerful, smoother, more classy. It was fully dealer maintained with full books/records. Has 5 of the newer style wheels on it I believe from a SLK or a 210. Also included were the set of 5 original wheels. I kind of like the new style wheels on there. Will get some pics for those who care. Sad part of the whole deal is that I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com Details, man, Details! Colors, pics, copy cancelled check for $500 etc... Tony Wirtel 92 300e/2.6 I DIDN'T get a v-8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
I know a fellow who does that sort of thing regularly. He is a small time dealer who buys cars for next to nothing, patches them up and resells for a profit. He goes around on Saturdays with the classified section of the paper and low balls people. If they ask $2500 he will go with cash and try to buy for $500. He says it is amazing how often people just want the car gone and will take the cash. He always gives them a line that no one else is likely to come as they are off to the lake for the weekend or whatever. Most folks don't really want to be bothered selling an old car. He doesn't even test drive most. He says if it runs and the tranny goes into forward and reverse, he will gamble that it is OK as he is getting it cheap enough to dump for his money back even if it is trouble. Most times, it is not. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again EXACTLY Rick Knoble wrote: I don't think he said he paid $500. However, if you have cash on hand and can make a decision on the spot (no let me have my mechanic check it out, let me get back to you after I run a carfax, etc.) you can sometimes get a spectacular deal from a seller who just wants to be rid of the car for some reason. The correct quote I believe is Money talks bull$hit walks Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Loosening PS Pump for Inner Belt Replacement
There is a plastic sliding deal inside the top bracket that you can use to (un)tension the thing via a bolt that if I recall is on the top right, laterally pointing toward the fender, if it is not broken. It is sorta like the alternator tensioner but is not too visible Otherwise use a pry bar suitably arranged to tension it back after loosening all the bolts (which will allow installation of the new belt). --R Robert Rentfro wrote: Which bolts do I loosen to be able to move the PS pump to be able to install AC belt? I can't see any that appear to be adjustable (could be my regular glasses are off getting new lenses and this old prescription is sad). As I look at it it makes me believe I have never done this before. We're supposed to be 115 or so for the fifth or sixth consecutive day and..well let's just say it's HOT. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 174K Magma Hot AZ-ville ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Keep that guy away from my wife. --R R A Bennell wrote: I know a fellow who does that sort of thing regularly. He is a small time dealer who buys cars for next to nothing, patches them up and resells for a profit. He goes around on Saturdays with the classified section of the paper and low balls people. If they ask $2500 he will go with cash and try to buy for $500. He says it is amazing how often people just want the car gone and will take the cash. He always gives them a line that no one else is likely to come as they are off to the lake for the weekend or whatever. Most folks don't really want to be bothered selling an old car. He doesn't even test drive most. He says if it runs and the tranny goes into forward and reverse, he will gamble that it is OK as he is getting it cheap enough to dump for his money back even if it is trouble. Most times, it is not. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again EXACTLY Rick Knoble wrote: I don't think he said he paid $500. However, if you have cash on hand and can make a decision on the spot (no let me have my mechanic check it out, let me get back to you after I run a carfax, etc.) you can sometimes get a spectacular deal from a seller who just wants to be rid of the car for some reason. The correct quote I believe is Money talks bull$hit walks Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Kaleb wrote: I think I saw a ticking on wiring harness replacement. Even if not, I got it cheap enough that I could replace if need be. What do you mean a ticking? Do you mean a ticket? Is the a/c cold? The V8's back then had a problem that would manifest itself with lifter noise. There is some sort of tube (not the EGR tube) that feeds oil and the lifters start to make noise. But, from what I heard the condition can last for years. A lot of them have the problem and have never been fixed. So, Kaleb, does yours have a ticking noise like lifter? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 138K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '79 450SL $900
Just noticed this one. No affiliation, etc. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html 1979 450SL 130k+ miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - (PRODUCT RED) 4G iPod
Anyone want to buy a brand new one? I was bartering with some folks for IT work the other day, and this ended up being in the deal. It's a brand new, never opened, (PRODUCT RED) iPod. Full warranty from Apple, etc. $199 + tax at the Apple store as well as other retailers. $175 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. I'll take PayPal, cashier's checks, money orders, etc. It goes on eBay Sunday night. Check and see what the idiots are paying for them there... yikes! Dan Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Kaleb wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. Is this what yours looks like white with gray leather? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Mercedes-E-420-NICEST-ON-EBAY-SEE-PI CTURES_W0QQitemZ120134421165QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120134421165 Ebay item # 120134421165 Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Injector Spewing Fuel
So.I button everything up from the A/C belt ordeal to schlep youngest daughter to get hur har did and when I get to the hair joint about 1.25 miles away I smell fuel. Don't think too much of it. When she's done, we are backing out and I see a goodly puddle 'neath the car. When I get home I look and right beneath where the fuel lines go into the injector it is wicked wet. Looks like the fuel lines. When running, you can see it seeping quickly from the short fuel line. Guess I have to replace them. How much line do I need to replace them all? Do they just push on? No clamps, right? I've never replaced any fuel lines is all these years of MB diesel ownership. What was the able-to-stand-up-to-bio brand of fuel line called? Bob R '77 300D 174K Surface of the Sun, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector Spewing Fuel
Buy a meter of the cloth covered line from Rusty or your local MB dealer. This is metric tubing, so don't try and cheat with something that's not - you'll regret it. Be careful with the very last piece that plugs the last injector line. It has a little metal slug in it to plug the line. You don't want to lose this. Dan --- Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.I button everything up from the A/C belt ordeal to schlep youngest daughter to get hur har did and when I get to the hair joint about 1.25 miles away I smell fuel. Don't think too much of it. When she's done, we are backing out and I see a goodly puddle 'neath the car. When I get home I look and right beneath where the fuel lines go into the injector it is wicked wet. Looks like the fuel lines. When running, you can see it seeping quickly from the short fuel line. Guess I have to replace them. How much line do I need to replace them all? Do they just push on? No clamps, right? I've never replaced any fuel lines is all these years of MB diesel ownership. What was the able-to-stand-up-to-bio brand of fuel line called? Bob R '77 300D 174K Surface of the Sun, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Coolant route Merecedes 300D Turbo
Hi Everyone, I am looking the schematic for the coolant system for my 1984 300D Turbo and the lines for the heater don't matchup with what is on the car. Schematic is laid out like this: Starting with drivers side hose coming from the block it goes through a regulating valve(is this the monovalve) and then to the heat exchanger and from there to the hose off the coolant pump bypass line on the passenger side of the engine. My system goes like this: Starting with drivers side hose coming from the block it goes through the heat exchanger then through the mono valve, then through the electric pump then to the a hose off the coolant pump bypass line on the passenger side. So basically my monovalve is between the heat exchanger and the coolant pump and the schematic has the monovalve between the block and the heat exchanger. Does it make a difference? I just got this car and have not used the heat yet. thanks Mike Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. Roger _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector Spewing Fuel
I did this repair recently on my 300D. Removing the old lines can be a little difficult, it may help to slit them slightly with a razor knife, but don't go so deep that you scratch the nipples. Twisting may help, try to pull them straight off so nothing gets bent. Also recommended was angle-tipped needle nose pliers; I don't have any and I did the job without. The new lines just push on. Don't cut them overly long; the meter is enough to replace them all but won't leave much left over. Use the old pieces as a guide. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:21:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LWB's message of Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:04:27 -0700 (PDT)) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buy a meter of the cloth covered line from Rusty or your local MB dealer. This is metric tubing, so don't try and cheat with something that's not - you'll regret it. Be careful with the very last piece that plugs the last injector line. It has a little metal slug in it to plug the line. You don't want to lose this. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another tower controller error
NTSB Identification: OPS07IA005A 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Incident occurred Sunday, June 17, 2007 in Teterboro, NJ Aircraft: Piaggio Industrie P180, registration: N152SL Injuries: 3 Uninjured. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On June 17, 2007, at 1320 EDT (1720 UTC), a runway incursion occurred at Teterboro Airport (TEB), New Jersey involving Avantair (VRN) flight 152, a P180, and N6026K, an SR22. AT 1319:02, the pilot of VRN152, an IFR departure, advised the tower controller that they were ready to depart from runway 24. The tower controller responded, 'Avantair one five two, runway 24, cleared for takeoff.' At 1319:42, the pilot of N6026K, a VFR departure, advised the tower controller that he was 'ready to go [on runway 19] at [taxiway] bravo.' The tower controller responded, 'Cirrus two six kilo left turn northeast bound maintain at or below one thousand runway 19 at bravo cleared for takeoff.' The pilot of VRN152 saw N6026K on departure roll and applied maximum braking, experienced two blown tires on the main gear, as N6026K rolled past, through the intersection 50 feet in front. VRN152 stopped in the intersection. The tower controller stated that he did not see the incursion, so he did not cancel either takeoff clearance. There were 3 people in the tower cab; the tower/controller-in charge and two developmental controllers who were working clearance delivery, one controller was on break. The two developmental controllers were faced away from the front of the cab and did not see the event. The incident occurred during day VFR conditions (clear sky with 10 miles visibility). ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? For what it's worth, I once had the windshield on a VW jetta replaced by an aftermarket glass and gasket, and it started leaking about 9 months later. Never could get it resealed even using silicone all around it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. That would be about 1/4 of the bluebook on that thing, and you got all the maintenance records too! SCOOORE Where do you find these deals?! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
Roger - Make sure you check your state regulations on glass replacement. My son had the front and rear glass replaced on my 300SD just before I bought it from him [crack in the rear, 23 years of normal wear in the front]. Free, and SC regulations would not even allow the insurance company to note it in his policy. Many / most? places require insurance to cover such things. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Conlon Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:18 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. Roger _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
We put a PPG windshield in our 1987 300SDL when we had it and it worked out okay. Have the installer be careful of the two rivets on the top corners of the roof that hold the molding down. I think they're aluminum and oxidize. When they remove the molding the rivet that holds the molding clip on snaps. James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Conlon Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:18 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. Roger _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink 3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant route Merecedes 300D Turbo
It does not matter works the same. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Coolant route Merecedes 300D Turbo Hi Everyone, I am looking the schematic for the coolant system for my 1984 300D Turbo and the lines for the heater don't matchup with what is on the car. Schematic is laid out like this: Starting with drivers side hose coming from the block it goes through a regulating valve(is this the monovalve) and then to the heat exchanger and from there to the hose off the coolant pump bypass line on the passenger side of the engine. My system goes like this: Starting with drivers side hose coming from the block it goes through the heat exchanger then through the mono valve, then through the electric pump then to the a hose off the coolant pump bypass line on the passenger side. So basically my monovalve is between the heat exchanger and the coolant pump and the schematic has the monovalve between the block and the heat exchanger. Does it make a difference? I just got this car and have not used the heat yet. thanks Mike Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SL $900
SORRY - I just noticed the 'e' in the middle of the description - an SEL, not an SL. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] '79 450SL $900 Just noticed this one. No affiliation, etc. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html 1979 450SL 130k+ miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
They should cut the rubber to remove the old glass. By doing this, all the metal trim can be reused. What you SHOULD buy, that i did not see listed, is a new rubber gasket. At 03:18 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote: I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. Roger _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
ticket, not ticking. No ticking noises from this car, quite as a mouse. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: I think I saw a ticking on wiring harness replacement. Even if not, I got it cheap enough that I could replace if need be. What do you mean a ticking? Do you mean a ticket? Is the a/c cold? The V8's back then had a problem that would manifest itself with lifter noise. There is some sort of tube (not the EGR tube) that feeds oil and the lifters start to make noise. But, from what I heard the condition can last for years. A lot of them have the problem and have never been fixed. So, Kaleb, does yours have a ticking noise like lifter? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 138K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
yep Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: This time, I buy a 94 E420. HOLY COW what a machine. It gives a whole new meaning to a 124. Is this what yours looks like white with gray leather? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Mercedes-E-420-NICEST-ON-EBAY-SEE-PI CTURES_W0QQitemZ120134421165QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120134421165 Ebay item # 120134421165 Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
You shouldnt have to pay more than about $250 to have the windshield replaced, labor and all. I wouldnt see why you would need any new moulding. You do not have to buy the MB glass. Roger Conlon wrote: I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. Roger _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
I just know how to wheel and deal I guess. This weekend I go look at a $2000 92 300D 2.5 turbo. Not sure if I will buy it or not. That E420 I think is by far my best deal yet. Kevin Kraly wrote: I STOLE it for less than luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I could turn around and sell it for 8k today. That would be about 1/4 of the bluebook on that thing, and you got all the maintenance records too! SCOOORE Where do you find these deals?! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
My '83 300SD has a leak at the upper right corner of the windshield. I anticipate needing a new gasket there as well as the rear glass since water also leaks into the trunk. Does anything need to be done with the aerodynamic trim on each side of the windshield? I want to have this removed and painted since it's full of rock chips. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector Spewing Fuel
I'll be able to get it tomorrow from the dealerafter I go to the bone yard to look for an idler pulley bracket which I broke giving it one last umph tightening it up. I said words I forgot I knew. Bob R '77 300D Hotsville, Sweat-In-Eye town -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Injector Spewing Fuel Buy a meter of the cloth covered line from Rusty or your local MB dealer. This is metric tubing, so don't try and cheat with something that's not - you'll regret it. Be careful with the very last piece that plugs the last injector line. It has a little metal slug in it to plug the line. You don't want to lose this. Dan --- Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.I button everything up from the A/C belt ordeal to schlep youngest daughter to get hur har did and when I get to the hair joint about 1.25 miles away I smell fuel. Don't think too much of it. When she's done, we are backing out and I see a goodly puddle 'neath the car. When I get home I look and right beneath where the fuel lines go into the injector it is wicked wet. Looks like the fuel lines. When running, you can see it seeping quickly from the short fuel line. Guess I have to replace them. How much line do I need to replace them all? Do they just push on? No clamps, right? I've never replaced any fuel lines is all these years of MB diesel ownership. What was the able-to-stand-up-to-bio brand of fuel line called? Bob R '77 300D 174K Surface of the Sun, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
The drip rail trim is swaged (pressed) on to a weldment that comes out of the body. You can take it off, but I guarantee you, you'll never get it back on the way it went, or to even stay on permanently. On top of that, if you don't have the driver tool to drive it back on, or can't fabricate one, forget it. Not to mention that even with the tool it's a tricky job and seriously endangers the car finish if you're not careful. DO NOT buy anything buy OEM (MB) window seals. Without going into a lengthy dissertation, non-OEM seals are often poorly made, however, it's an attribute that won't manifest itself for several years. Consider the cost amortized over the life of the car and it's easy to take. Dan --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '83 300SD has a leak at the upper right corner of the windshield. I anticipate needing a new gasket there as well as the rear glass since water also leaks into the trunk. Does anything need to be done with the aerodynamic trim on each side of the windshield? I want to have this removed and painted since it's full of rock chips. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
I might add, this comes from many years of experience with both 123 and 126 body MBs, having pretty much field-stripped them for paint prep. Check out some of my former MBs at www.penoff.com Dan --- LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The drip rail trim is swaged (pressed) on to a weldment that comes out of the body. You can take it off, but I guarantee you, you'll never get it back on the way it went, or to even stay on permanently. On top of that, if you don't have the driver tool to drive it back on, or can't fabricate one, forget it. Not to mention that even with the tool it's a tricky job and seriously endangers the car finish if you're not careful. DO NOT buy anything buy OEM (MB) window seals. Without going into a lengthy dissertation, non-OEM seals are often poorly made, however, it's an attribute that won't manifest itself for several years. Consider the cost amortized over the life of the car and it's easy to take. Dan --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '83 300SD has a leak at the upper right corner of the windshield. I anticipate needing a new gasket there as well as the rear glass since water also leaks into the trunk. Does anything need to be done with the aerodynamic trim on each side of the windshield? I want to have this removed and painted since it's full of rock chips. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
LWB250 wrote: Check out some of my former MBs at www.penoff.com Who was the guy who called himself The Mercedes Martha Stewart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - (PRODUCT RED) 4G iPod
just never any real bargains with you, poos On 6/21/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone want to buy a brand new one? I was bartering with some folks for IT work the other day, and this ended up being in the deal. It's a brand new, never opened, (PRODUCT RED) iPod. Full warranty from Apple, etc. $199 + tax at the Apple store as well as other retailers. $175 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. I'll take PayPal, cashier's checks, money orders, etc. It goes on eBay Sunday night. Check and see what the idiots are paying for them there... yikes! Dan Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] glasses
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html Big difference between an SL and an SEL. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well I did it again
Kevin Kraly wrote: Where do you find these deals?! I believe he has a recurring autotrader ad for I buy Mercedes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel leak
'77 300D 174K I hope this car is off the road until repaired, considering how dangerous spilled diesel is to motor cycles and bicycles. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That was poos Thought so. Just didn't recognize the LWB250 email addy. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
That was poos Mitch Haley wrote: LWB250 wrote: Check out some of my former MBs at www.penoff.com Who was the guy who called himself The Mercedes Martha Stewart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
Roger Conlon wrote: I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. The PPG glass is just FINE. Much of what dealers have sold over th last 10-15 years have been PPG with a star on it. I have PPG glass in one of my present cars and have used it on several others with NO problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
'79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or 545-8183. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? Thanks - . BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
I got a new windshield in my 300SDL last summer at the local Binswanger shop for a total of $200.00 - including tax. It has not leaked in the torrential rains we've been getting - even at highway speeds yesterday. They were able to replace the molding such that I can't tell they touched it. I think this windshield is glued in instead of using a gasket? Glass - $98.52 4.8 labor - $72.00 2- Urethane kits - $20.00 tax - $9.48 total $200.00 On 6/21/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Conlon wrote: I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. The PPG glass is just FINE. Much of what dealers have sold over th last 10-15 years have been PPG with a star on it. I have PPG glass in one of my present cars and have used it on several others with NO problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
All the rubber bits that seal the injection/intake system? Fuel distributer? On 6/21/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or 545-8183. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? Thanks - . BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] glasses
Yes, I know. I just read too fast and had a mental pic of an SL. My head was obviously on something else. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] glasses http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html Big difference between an SL and an SEL. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
PPG is OEM for Mercedes -- they make some of it right down the road from me, the rest in Germany, I think. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
I think you are correct. I know the rear window is a lace type gasket, but I believe the front one on the SDL is glued in. I'll check next time I see my brother. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
That's me. The Mercedes Martha Stewart as many know me. From the original Banned list, it's Poosy Penoff, courtesy of Jabba the Hurst. I've got a bunch more stuff to put up on the Web site, like resoldering ACC controllers, recalibrating compressor cutoff switches, stuff like that... Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Check out some of my former MBs at www.penoff.com Who was the guy who called himself The Mercedes Martha Stewart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
The 126 chassis windshield is glued in, there is no rubber seal as in the W123 chassis. You need to have a really good installer or it will be boogered up. Dan --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Conlon wrote: I have a cracked windshield in my 87 SDL, called the local auto glass place to get price on replacement. $505 for windshield from Mercedes $377.20 for six pieces of molding $100-$120 for install. Do I need the Mercedes glass or should I go with a PPG glass, and is it necessary for new molding? I have $100 deductible on my insurance but you can bet I'll pay for it in the long run if I go all original Benz stuff. The PPG glass is just FINE. Much of what dealers have sold over th last 10-15 years have been PPG with a star on it. I have PPG glass in one of my present cars and have used it on several others with NO problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel leak
RLE admonished: I hope this car is off the road until repaired, considering how dangerous spilled diesel is to motor cycles and bicycles. Don't worry...it is. Bob R. Blazeoville, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:47 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel leak '77 300D 174K RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $6500 moon roof scam attempt
On 6/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scroll down to the moonroof story video www.emercedesbenz.com/index.htm Finally got around to watching this. I can't imagine why either the owner of the site or Roger thinks this is unusual or worthy of commentary. In my experience this kind of thing happens _every_ time you take a car to a dealer service department for two reasons: incompetent techs and the system that prevents you from talking to them directly, but to a so-called service representative or service writer who runs interference for them. Unfortunately some independent shops are now following this model, as well (and at least one has lost my patronage because of it). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $6500 moon roof scam attempt
Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my experience this kind of thing happens _every_ time you take a car to a dealer service department for two reasons: incompetent techs and the system that prevents you from talking to them directly, but to a so-called service representative or service writer who runs interference for them. Unfortunately some independent shops are now following this model, as well (and at least one has lost my patronage because of it). My indy is a one man shop. Well his wife works there too, doing the books I think. I like it because whenever I call or stop by there I talk directly to him. In case anyone is interested: http://home.bluemarble.net/~qis/ Unfortunately whoever designed his web site did some goofy flash thing that only works in IE (at least for me -- oh no wait a minute it also works in Safari for Windows) But not *quite right* in Firefox. Or maybe I don't have the right FireFox plugin. Anyway. His actual shop is much more down to earth. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mog Ride
With a few recent posts about Mogs, I thought I'd add my impressions after my first ride in a Mog last week, 100 miles or so through the Sierra Madres in Mexico. I rode a '58 former NATO troop carrier that an outfitter takes touristas like myself for rides in. Had an '00 2 liter 6 cyl 75 hp gas engine in it, a replacement for the original diesel. Vehicle was in excellent shape. Was overkill for the dirt road cruising and occasional stream fording we did--my Vanagon could have taken the same route (much faster!), tho a car could not have. Max speed for that rig was 48 mph, which we never saw--hit 40 a couple times, but any grade slowed us down very quickly, due to the weight of the vehicle--we were very lightly loaded. They are very large, heavy machines. Very wide-ratio transmissions, with two crawler gears and 4 road gears. There is no doubt they will go through anything at all, but the widely spaced gears, and in this one's case, a high-revving OHC six and a very clunky shifter that prevented quick gear changes meant that there was no chance you could upshift on a grade of any steepness, and much of the ride was done with the engine bumping up against the rev limiter. Impressed me that it would be not nearly as fun to drive as my brother's 1942 International KB7--that's also also heavy and underpowered, but with a low-compression, slow-turning, tourquey stroker of a six and ten close-ratio gears, there's always plenty of tourque on tap and the perfect ratio for whatever you want to do. Engine braking was also awkward due to the wide gears. But the ride was quite comfortable, considering, due to the huge tires, and in spite of its great height, was quite stable. They said they could ford 5' of water, due to sealed engine, snorkle, etc. However, the battery went dead, and we all (6 of us) had to push start it once. That was a kick. So, that's all I know about Mogs. Street-legal tractor pretty well sums it up, and I have no doubt they're a blast at doing real serious off-roading, or playing with the various cranes, side-dump boxes, and all the other toys you can get on one. But as a truck--nah. That's kind of missing the point, I think, like using a stock MBZ diesel for drag racing. Can be done, but why? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] StarTuned magazine
An informative article on brake repairs and causes of disc runout. https://www.mbwholesaleparts.com/StarTuned/jsp/issue.jsp ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
Well its probably going to need ALOT of work, fuel parts probably means it needs a new fuel pump, fuel tank removed and cleaned out, maybe a fuel distributor. Rust is a major problem on those cars. In the end, if you sort it out you will probably have a $900 car when you are done. BillR wrote: '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or 545-8183. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? Thanks - . BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
We need to link that into our articles, if I ever get around to setting that up LWB250 wrote: That's me. The Mercedes Martha Stewart as many know me. From the original Banned list, it's Poosy Penoff, courtesy of Jabba the Hurst. I've got a bunch more stuff to put up on the Web site, like resoldering ACC controllers, recalibrating compressor cutoff switches, stuff like that... Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Check out some of my former MBs at www.penoff.com Who was the guy who called himself The Mercedes Martha Stewart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL windshield replacement
Also, the 126 has metal strips imbedded in it that you hook power up to and they heat up to loosed the glue. LWB250 wrote: The 126 chassis windshield is glued in, there is no rubber seal as in the W123 chassis. You need to have a really good installer or it will be boogered up. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
That's what I need to know. I am just looking for something for my daughter to drive until I can buy the 300 SEL from Donald. Here is the owner's reply to my questions: Hey, Bill, The update wasn't referring to the engine. That was an information update for the ad. The engine is the original. The fuel system problem is from the gas going stale. The car sat in a shop for a couple of years. I have no idea what the gas mileage was like, but it probably wasn't all that good with that huge V8. When I keep a steady feed going into the air valve, it runs good and sounds good. As for a history, I can only vouch for the past 3 years. I bought it to fix up for myself, but am moving up north and can't take it w/ me. By the looks of the car, it had a pretty easy life and was just parked and forgotten. The interior is in good condition. No rips or tears. Just needs to be cleaned. The floor mats and carpet also look good. It needs a paint job, but the body is straight. Now, it has a flat tire, but shouldn't be any problem to move. Come out and take a look, Bill, I think you will like it for $750 cash. If interested, give me a call @ 904 619-9859. Thanks, Metal Mike Thoughts everyone? Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems Well its probably going to need ALOT of work, fuel parts probably means it needs a new fuel pump, fuel tank removed and cleaned out, maybe a fuel distributor. Rust is a major problem on those cars. In the end, if you sort it out you will probably have a $900 car when you are done. BillR wrote: '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or 545-8183. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? Thanks - . BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
Fuel pump is shot, or the air flow meter flap is stuck, it has no fuel delivery (could just be a fuel pump relay, too). Might be a big vac leak as well (torn boot between airflow meter and throttle body) At least it's not blowing huge black smoke clouds, that means a new fuel distributor! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] glass
PPG is OEM for Mercedes -- they make some of it right down the road from me, the rest in Germany, I think. As is Pilkington. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $6500 moon roof scam attempt
What's new. Same game, just a different chump. Only this chump didn't bite, he bit back. At 11:38 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote: Scroll down to the moonroof story video www.emercedesbenz.com/index.htm RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
