[MOPO] International Shipping
Hi Folks As some of you know, I wrote a recently released book called "Star Wars Memories: My Time in the (Death Star) Trenches). It's about the years I worked on the marketing of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. I have two international requests for copies of my book. They could, of course, just order from Amazon in their home countries but they want signed copies so they have to get them from me. Case 1) A guy in Australia (and possibly a couple of his friends) want signed copies. I went to the Post Office and the cheapest rate they quoted me -- the clerk admitted she didn't really know how to look this up -- was $24 to ship a 2.1 pound envelope. That would be one copy of the book. Media Mail apparently can't be used overseas. Case 2) A Star Wars convention in Norway wants to buy 30 (!) copies, some personalized and some just signed. They'd like to bring me in as a guest (in which case they could buy from Amazon locally and I'd sign on site) but I don't know if my wife, Genny, whose still recovering after two and a half months in the hospital from a nerve-destroying ailment, will be well enough by March for me to travel like that. Thirty copies of my book, which is large and fairly heavy, would require two boxes weighing about 32 pounds each. I'm getting quotes for shipping from USPS, UPS, and FedEx ranging from $500 to $1100. $24 for one copy or $1100 for two boxes of copies is nuts. There must be some cheaper way to ship books overseas. What am I missing? Thanks, Craig. ~~ 310/995-1252 (mobile) https://www.facebook.com/cfmiller https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-miller-990b2719/ ~~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] LACMA GERMAN EXPRESSIONIST FOLM EXHIBIT
It's a great exhibit. We saw it a couple weeks ago. Definitely worth seeing. Craig. At 11:44 PM 4/4/2015, Toochis Morin wrote: Hi Mopo If you're in LA you must see the above exhibit. It has incredible original posters from Metropolis, M, and De Blau Angel. There are drawings from The Cabinet of Dr Caligari which are amazing. It closes in a couple of weeks so hurry. You won't be disappointed Toochis Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainmentcr...@wolfmill.com 310/559-1622 (office) 310/995-1252 (mobile) ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Here are four special teaser posters that you likely have never seen before
I don't know the story behind these posters and why they might be rare but contractual billing, with the star's name at the top, is very common and I've never seen exclusions for whether or not the star is shown on the one-sheet. Yes, I suppose you can call it an ego thing but it would apply to most every name star out there -- and especially to their agents and managers, who would have been the ones to ask for it as part of their client's deal. There are plenty of reasons to like or not like Tom Cruise but this seems just an excuse to knock him. Craig. At 04:06 PM 4/16/2013, Harry Caul wrote: That's probably because the art department realized Tom Cruise's name somehow ended up on all the posters and they scrapped the print run! I mean, his ego couldn't be SO big that he contractually demanded it. Right? Sigh. On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Bruce Hershenson mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.combrucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: Here are four special teaser posters that you likely have never seen before, and you likely will never see them come up for sale, EXCEPT in our set of auctions that begin on April 21st! Inline image 1 -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 29 members of the http://eMoviePoster.comeMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) http://www.emovieposter.com/our site http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.htmlour auctions [] http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120625ad_emovieposter_no_buyer_beware_buyer_warranty.jpgComplete Buyer Protection - No time limit on our guarantees NO buyer beware http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/20120906_mcw_ad_hershenson_help_hotline_forsite.jpgHershenson Help Hotline - Direct line to Bruce (our owner!) for urgent problems Also, please read the following three pages of in-depth Customer Reviews of our company - http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page1.jpgPage 1, http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page2.jpgPage 2, http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page3.jpgPage 3, which shows you in our customers' own words exactly what makes our company and our auctions so very different from all others! [] Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Ot - Guernsey's - The Kanter Magic Poster Collection - Page 1 of 2
Too rich for my blood, alas, but lots of beautiful pieces. Good luck with the auction. Craig. At 04:05 PM 12/6/2012, ANDREA KANTER wrote: Dec 9! http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/34810_the-kanter-magic-poster-collection/page1http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/34810_the-kanter-magic-poster-collection/page1 ANDREA KANTER mailto:andreakan...@mac.comandreakan...@mac.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR DEALERS
Have you had a problem with Collectibles? They cover my various collections but I've never had to file a claim with them so don't know how they are at anything but accepting checks. Craig. At 10:11 AM 12/3/2012, Irvin J. Gelb wrote: Hi Everyone, I am looking for alternative insurance companies to Collectibles that write policies for dealers as well. If anyone has some good recommendations I would really appreciate it. Many thanks! irv Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] FA: THE PARTY STYLE B 40x60, EMPIRE STRIKES BACK GWTW STYLE + 40+ AUCTIONS!!
That Empire Strikes Back poster looks like a commercial poster of the art (and only the art) from the theatrical poster. Craig. At 06:49 PM 10/30/2012, Rix Posterz wrote: H, Everyone, Please take a look when you have an extra minute. Some CLASSIC TITLES, RARE SIZES and MANY, MANY MULTIPLE US POSTER BARGAINS...all CLOSING THURSDAY!!! As always, your support is very much appreciated. Thanks to all, Rick http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-PARTY-Orig-1968-Style-B-US-40x60-Poster-JACK-DAVIS-ART-ULTRA-RARE-/181006891982?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a24d9fbcehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-PARTY-Orig-1968-Style-B-US-40x60-Poster-JACK-DAVIS-ART-ULTRA-RARE-/181006891982?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a24d9fbce THE PARTY Orig 1968 US ROLLED STYLE B 40x60 JACK DAVIS ART http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-Orig-1980-GWTW-Style-US-Movie-Poster-RARE-SIZE-/181006888485?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a24d9ee25http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-Orig-1980-GWTW-Style-US-Movie-Poster-RARE-SIZE-/181006888485?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a24d9ee25 THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Orig 1980 GONE WITH THE WIND STYLE US POSTER http://www.ebay.com/sch/rixposterz/m.html?_ipg=50_from_nkw_armrs=1_sop=1http://www.ebay.com/sch/rixposterz/m.html?_ipg=50_from_nkw_armrs=1_sop=1 ALL AUCTIONS Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Ray Bradbury, A Remembrance
One of the first stories Ray ever told me was about his appearances in EC Comics. (I was a comics fan so it was a natural area of interest.) I no longer remember which of the stories appeared in the comics first -- adaptations of his short stories -- but EC adapted it, according to Ray, without his knowledge. He told me wrote Bill Gaines, the editor, a letter saying that he really loved the adaptation but they'd forgotten to send him his check. Soon thereafter, a contract arrived. And a check. And EC continued to adapt (by advance agreement) several more of his stories. Craig. At 07:01 PM 6/7/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I never met Ray Bradbury OR Ray Harryhausen, and I doubt I would have known either one by sight. But I loved Bradbury stories after I read the EC Comic adaptations as a kid, and I went on to read his stuff and some of his stories were great and some pretty hard to follow, but he sure was unlike any other sci-fi writer and in a great way. And I was lucky enough to see Sinbad and Jason in the theater and I thought them way better than the regular sci-fi or horror stuff. The funny thing is, I STILL think they wrote and directed light years ahead of today's people who churn out crap with regularity, and good movies are fewer and fewer. Bruce On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com wrote: I had met Ray many times during my life and we chatted frequently at shows. I was always quite surprised that he remembered my name. More than that however, when I was a young teen, and before I had been introduced to Raymond Chandler, Bradbury was my favorite novelist and the Martian Chronicles was my favorite book he was a great guy he loved his fans every bit as much as they loved him, which is something that can also be said of his two best friends, Harryhausen and Ackerman Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) http://www.emovieposter.com/our site http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.htmlour auctions [] Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Ray Bradbury, A Remembrance
that experience over 35 years ago Rick Ryan Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Missing posters
Helmut: I don't know any more of the details in Geraldine's matter than has been brought up here but no one seemed to complain about all of the details (and dumping on) of various people you guys collectively disliked -- I'm terrible with names but one was the guy from the auction house and the other was a restorer who didn't and who didn't return people's posters. Not to mention the numerous eBay sellers and buyers not on this list whose practices are perceived as less than pristine. But because Geraldine's issue involves Grey and Heritage -- home town boys -- suddenly we don't talk about such things here. I don't know who is right and who's wrong, and, truthfully, I think when matters reach the legal stage they are best left private. But that's up to Geraldine. And Grey. But let's not pretend that this list doesn't talk about this kind of dispute. Perhaps it shouldn't but it does. Craig. At 06:24 AM 5/23/2012, Helmut Hamm wrote: Geraldine, since you're already employing an attorney, why don't you let him handle the conversation regarding this matter? As far as I'm concerned, this is between you and Heritage (or between your attorney and Heritage at this point) and I do not need any more of this on Mopo. Helmut Hamm http://www.filmposter.nethttp://www.filmposter.net On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Geraldine Kudaka mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.comgkud...@rocketmail.com wrote: I am glad to see Robert Rogovin and James Greshin found their missing posters. I wish I could say the same. After posting here (March 31 Apr 3, 2012) that Charlie Lippincott and I were missing posters from Heritage, Grey offered to handle our auctions without a commission. No longer thrilled with our relationship with Heritage, we refused. Next, Grey Smith offered to donate their estimated value to charity -- which we also refused. Grey then sent back a batch of posters. Upon receipt, I emailed asking if these posters returned were all the posters held by Heritge. No reply. On May 7 our attorney sent Grey Smith and Heritage a letter requesting the names of the bonded staff member who had received our poster shipments and the names of both staff members who double checked the inventory. I repeated my emails to Grey requesting to know whether he had shipped back everything we had sent to heritage. No reply. Finally, on May 8, I sent an email with the heading 5TH REQUEST. Grey Smith replied the next day, but did not affirm the return represented ALL our inventory. It took two more emails before he said everything had been returned. As of May 18, Grey Smith claims they have not received a letter from our attorney. From: Bruce Hershenson mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.combrucehershen...@gmail.com To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Missing posters Over the years a ton of people have contacted us that one or more items were missing from their package (so many that we have a stock reply telling them to carefully check EVERYTHING again). Time after time people contact us all embarrassed to say they found it. I can only recall a couple of times over a 20 year period where people were adamant the missing items weren't there, and I refunded them. 99.9% of poster collectors are among the most honest people on earth. That ,1%... well...! Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Jim Gresham 18501 Henry Ct Ray Mi 48096 586 677-7669 http://www.greshamsinc.com/www.greshamsinc.com www.childrenofthenightbook.com http://www.theyreherealreadybook.com/www.theyreherealreadybook.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List
Re: [MOPO] Star Wars artist Ralph McQuarrie R.I.P.
At 09:15 PM 3/3/2012, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=33315 Ralph was an amazingly talented artist and a terrific guy. Soft spoken, kind, easy going, generous. I haven't seen him in a number of years (he moved up to the Bay Area many years ago but I used to see him frequently when he was in L.A.) I got to work with Ralph on a poster, which I designed for the Official Star Wars Fan Club. [] I couldn't find a digital copy of the poster in my files so pulled this one off the internet. If someone has a better copy... Craig. [Sent this through once before, with an image of the poster pasted into the message, but the set up for this listserv doesn't seem to accept images.] ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] REQUEST OF MOPO MEMBERS
This is a test. It is only a test. Craig. At 10:21 AM 9/7/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: We are having some e-mail problems. Could the online members please send me an email test message from any email address that you have? I think it would help us to determine the extent of the problem. Kirby Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] THX 1138 press book question
Does anyone have a copy of the press book for the original release of THX 1138. I can't find my copy and I'm trying to find a reference to something in it. (For the right price, I'll buy an extra copy.) Thanks, Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Dave Dave Dave
At 01:15 PM 8/20/2011, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote: eeing the fake rolled 1 sheet for the Kurt Russell the THING which was compared side by side to the real deal and was perfect EXCEPT that it was rolled, and when we forensically tested it, PROVED it was produced in the late 1980's, would make me question any rolled one sheet. This fake was THAT GOOD!!! I spoke to that guy who showed you that poster at Cinevent and he's sending it out to me to look at I'd like to see a video on what kind of tests you put the paper through I must have missed the original message that mentioned one-sheets from The Thing. I don't know anything about the specific poster you're referring to but I was a publicity consultant to Universal for that movie (among others) and I can tell you with absolute certainty that there were rolled one-sheets for that film. I probably still have 50 of them in my garage. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Dave Dave Dave
Todd: I guess it was the phrase compared side by side to the real deal and was perfect EXCEPT that it was rolled that made me jump to the conclusion that you were saying real ones aren't rolled. Craig. At 03:45 PM 8/20/2011, Todd Spoor wrote: Craig, we are NOT saying there aren't real rolled 1 sheets of the Thing or any other poster out there, we are saying someone is using a very high level printing technology to make these knock offs using newer paper which possess a high level of alkaline compared to earlier paper. Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Craig Miller cr...@wolfmill.com wrote: At 01:15 PM 8/20/2011, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote: eeing the fake rolled 1 sheet for the Kurt Russell the THING which was compared side by side to the real deal and was perfect EXCEPT that it was rolled, and when we forensically tested it, PROVED it was produced in the late 1980's, would make me question any rolled one sheet. This fake was THAT GOOD!!! I spoke to that guy who showed you that poster at Cinevent and he's sending it out to me to look at I'd like to see a video on what kind of tests you put the paper through I must have missed the original message that mentioned one-sheets from The Thing. I don't know anything about the specific poster you're referring to but I was a publicity consultant to Universal for that movie (among others) and I can tell you with absolute certainty that there were rolled one-sheets for that film. I probably still have 50 of them in my garage. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Best and Worst Movie Posters of the Summer - Photo Gallery on Yahoo! Movies
At 01:37 PM 5/7/2011, Kenwick Cook wrote: cool article, Andrea... I couldn't help checking out this link, as my kid is into Lego's these days... cool-looking, official Lego movie-poster spoofs of the upcoming Summer movies: http://screenrant.com/lego-movie-posters-summer-2011s-biggest-movies-rob-114060/ The Lego posters, on the other hand, are pretty cool. Craig. -Original Message- From: Andrea Kanter eccen...@mac.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 2:52 pm Subject: [MOPO] The Best and Worst Movie Posters of the Summer - Photo Gallery on Yahoo! Movies http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/collections/gallery/3398/the-best-and-worst-movie-posters-of-the-summer#photo0http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/collections/gallery/3398/the-best-and-worst-movie-posters-of-the-summer#photo0 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Best and Worst Movie Posters of the Summer - Photo Gallery on Yahoo! Movies
At 12:52 PM 5/7/2011, Andrea Kanter wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/collections/gallery/3398/the-best-and-worst-movie-posters-of-the-summer#photo0 I'd say they're comments got switched. Thor's a great poster? Really? Harry Potter's a bad poster?? Just about every one of their worst posters is okay to very good and their best posters are blah at best. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] a feature-length documentary film about the career of movie poster artist and Comic-Con special guest Drew Struzan
Can you narrow down the day? Craig. At 12:24 PM 7/18/2010, kainb...@aol.com wrote: This might be of interest! Enjoy/Philipp 5:00-6:00 Spotlight on Drew Struzan See the premiere screening of excerpts from Drew: The Man Behind the Poster, a feature-length documentary film about the career of movie poster artist and Comic-Con special guest Drew Struzan, featuring exclusive interviews with George Lucas, Harrison Ford, Michael J. Fox, Frank Darabont, Guillermo del Toro, Steven Spielberg, and many others. QA will include Struzan and filmmakers Erik Sharkey (director), Charles Ricciardi (producer), Greg Boas (editor and cinematographer), and Marc-Antoine Serou (cinematographer). Room 7AB Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] New tax law: 1099s for vendors....
I'm guessing that retail purchases don't come under this new law. Craig. At 02:21 PM 7/11/2010, James Richard wrote: I love this sort of law... like, say I'm running a business and I buy from my local Wall-Mart more than $600 per year worth of office/computer supplies and equipment. So now I have to issue a 1099 form to Wal-Mart? I guess they will exempt big corporations from this provision, because, as we all know, big corporations always pay all of their taxes without any hesitation or need for additional reporting to the IRS. -- JR Captain Bijou wrote: Fellow MoPoers: You may be unaware of nex tax law provisions, which kick in at the start of 2012, require any taxpayer with business income to issue 1099 forms to all vendors from whom they purchased more than $600 of goods and services that year. So, if you sell one poster -- or a cumulative total -- over $600.00 to a fellow dealer, you'll have to send him or her a 1099 in 2012. If you are a dealer, such as myself, and buy over $600.00 from a vendor such as Bruce or Heritage, you will be issued a 1099 to accompany your 2012 tax return. This new law, as it currently stands, means that I, personally, will be issuing and/or receiving at least 40-60 1099s in 2012. I shudder to think how many Bruce, Kirby, Heritage and the rest of my fellow MoPo members will be receiving and/or sending. You can read the CNN Money article on this subject by clicking the below link: http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/09/smallbusiness/irs_1099_flood/http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/09/smallbusiness/irs_1099_flood/ Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU http://www.captainbijou.comwww.captainbijou.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] wanted: STAR WARS HAPPY BDAY CAKE 1yr anniv 1SH ROLLED NM
How much will you pay for one? Craig. At 05:17 PM 3/29/2010, David Lieberman wrote: Please let me know. thanks, David Lieberman http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260 Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open By Appt. Only. http://www.facebook.com/pages/CineMasterpieces/7735495839?v=wallOur Facebook Page Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Any bets on METROPOLIS?
on a re-release, or that the piece is a Holy Grail in the minds of the consignor and the auctioneer only. But once I found out the truth, I would be mightily pissed off. Penny wise and pound foolish! Bruce On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Brude brude2...@yahoo.com wrote: Wy over-priced for a 1970 RR half-sheet. Opening bid of $200 is more in line (and I still wouldn't buy it). --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: From: Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de Subject: Re: [MOPO] Any bets on METROPOLIS? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 12:08 PM Of course, we won't hear the end of every story out there, but I'm pretty optimistic, that the majority of 'recorded' sales actually go through. Of course, sometimes the same copy of a poster comes back to auction, but I'm under the impression that quite a number of high-priced posters are not nearly as rare as they are (were?) assumed to be. Be that as may, what do you guys think of this $2,000 poster: I think I've seen it somewhere before, but $2,390 for an R70 halfsheet on A SPACE ODYSSEY? And only one bidder. http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7019Lot_No=85470http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7019Lot_No=85470 I think I've seen it somewhere before, but I'm not sure. $2,390 for an R70 halfsheet on A SPACE ODYSSEY? And only one bidder. HH Am 20.03.2010 um 16:45 schrieb Bruce Hershenson: Remember that items that sell for high prices often return to the auction block in the very next auction (or a couple of auctions later). Maybe the buyers never paid, or maybe the consignors bought their own items, or whatever. We are never told the rest of the story. But LOTS of people have been sucked in to buying a poster for say, $2,000 because it is a bargain since it previously sold for $4,000, when it may well be that the $4,000 sale was never consummated. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: http://mc/compose?to=lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from
Re: [MOPO] AVATAR
Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] AVATAR
It's none of those things -- well, not always -- but when someone's only comment is it's just like [one of a half dozen films] then I think they aren't thinking but just parroting someone else's comment, to be on the cool bandwagon. There's definitely stuff to knock in Avatar, but way too many seem to not be able to come up with any of it. No one's saying you aren't thinking nor that you dismissed the film. I disagree that comparable plots is a negative but you had other negative points as well. You clearly did think about it. I don't completely agree with you but everyone's entitled to their opinion. I just see a lot of people who are simply on a knock Cameron kick. Craig. At 11:22 AM 2/16/2010, James Richard wrote: So it's now just uncool or jealousy or the old dude just doesn't get it to make a perfectly valid observation or criticism of a film? Guess I have lived too long. --JR Jeff Potokar wrote: Well put, Craig. Its SO easy to knock one's project or film down. I dont get it. And from so many people who know little to nothing about what it actually takes to make and put a film of this caliber together. Jealousy perhaps, or the fact that Cameron has another colossal hit in his pocket, i suppose. Jeff On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Craig Miller wrote: I can't say how tired I am of the oh, Avatar is just like movie X complaint. Sorry. If it's just like Pocahontas, Dances With Wolves, Ferngully, The Last Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia, and The Last of the Mohicans (and it's like all of them) that should tell you that it's a common story trope used by countless writers. To complain of it is to say The West Side Story is a piece of crap. It's just like Romeo and Juliet. The last movie I saw that didn't harken to the plot of something else was Being John Malkovich. Is Avatar perfect? No. Is it's script great? Nope. But to say there are plot similarities to something else is fatuous. If that's all someone can complain about, then they're just looking for something to knock. (And Cameron has a lot of people who like to knock him, though I think he's got a truly amazing track record.) Craig. At 11:15 PM 2/15/2010, David Kusumoto wrote: ** It's been a while I've written anything of length to MoPo; write it off to being too swamped to get into the fights and what-nots during the past 5-6 months. ** Meanwhile, you're right, Doug -- Avatar's story line has been done 1,000 times before, and that's my only objection to it. Avatar's script resembled Dances With Wolves Meets the Blue Man Group -- with the standard theme of money-grubbing corporations raping the natural resources of a planet populated by blue aliens -- whose every utterance is noble and forcefully profound, e.g., like lines given to every Native American character in Disney's Pocahontas. ** Anyway, I was put in my place by a former colleague and mother of two kids who agreed with me -- but who told me -- (and she was right) -- you know, you and your historical film references makes you old and out of date -- it makes everything you see today sound irrelevant with a been there and done that feeling. Well, that's not true for everything. Zillions of people are paying $15 to see 'Avatar' without your historical references; they don't care about Dances with Wolves or Pocahontas. Even if they did, those pictures were made 15-20 years ago, before today's movie goers were born; they were made in ways that seem obsolete or less engaging to kids today. This doesn't mean old films are less important. It just means they're not important to young people YET. Someday they'll like them. Like we did. Geezuz, we weren't all born in 1920. Young people buy WAY more tickets than old people. Remember how you used to go to every opening night? You don't anymore because you hate long lines. You're not supporting the industry and you're well past the 'sell-by' date for mass entertainment. So stay at home and watch PBS, TCM or HBO. 'Avatar may not be the best picture of the year, but it is historic and my kids loved it. ** I thought about this tirade for a moment and I said, you know, you're right. Most people coming out of 'Avatar' are having fun -- and I admit it's astounding that a guy like James Cameron can knock out hit after monster hit, while having total control of material that, unlike Spielberg, always seems to strike industry watchers and the bean counters to have an iffy quality -- BEFORE they're released. Cameron's films never SEEM to feel like they will be guaranteed box office gold until AFTER word-of-mouth spreads. ** The box-office receipts of Cameron's last three films including True Lies -- have blown past everything Spielberg has done since 1993, including Jurassic Park, a film at the time I thought was a technological game changer. I just wonder whether Avatar, even as a game changer -- has a story/script worthy enough to be a Best Picture
Re: [MOPO] Forget the Oscars.. Who Collects Razzies Posters
At 11:19 AM 2/2/2010, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: http://razzies.com/history/30thNoms.asp I don't collect the posters but I attend the Awards Ceremony every year. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE C 1-SHT QUESTION For STAR WARS MOVIE POSTER EXPERT
I can't give you any of the proofs you asked for in your message, Bruce, but as a publicist working at The Star Wars Corporation/ Lucasfilm in 1977 I can tell you that Style C posters definitely existed, were sent to theaters, etc. I have no idea how many were printed, shipped to theaters, etc., as that was all handled by Fox. Craig. At 06:13 AM 2/3/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Rick, I have wondered the same thing. I have talked to many poster collectors who were collecting when the movie first came out, and they say that this poster did not appear on the collector's market at all in 1977, and that a year or two later a ton of them appeared (the ones that are rolled or lightly hand folded). Some people I have talked to wonder if these aren't the result of someone getting the printer to run off a bunch of these at a later date. We know there WAS such a poster in 1977 with ratings (because printer's proofs have turned up), and it is also possible that the no ratings posters were from an international release in 1978. Can any expert show an image of any theater anywhere that displayed this poster in 1977? Or can any expert who was collecting back then tell that they purchased one or more of these in 1977, and not at a later date? Bruce On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:32 AM, mailto:rixpost...@aol.comrixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I'm not that tremendously knowledgable when it comes to STAR WARS material, but of the posters from the three original films in the Star Wars trilogy, it appears hands down as if the 1977 Star Wars Style C one sheet is the most difficult to find...definitely more so than the style D and even more so than Revenge Of The Jedi. (Of course the 'birthday cake one sheet tops them all, but I'd put that in a different category altogether) Anyway, I was searching the results of Heritage's auctions and there must be 8 or 10 Star Wars Style D one sheets for every ONE style Star Wars Style C (if that many!). Hey, I know there's a ton of rolled, repro Style C one sheets out there--but those also DON'T COUNT. I'm talking about original, authentic Star Wars Style C one sheets. Could some expert on Star Wars material out there let me know the story on this poster? It's rarity in relation to other Star Wars posters, etc. Hey, I've seen a helluva lot of those BOGUS Style C's over the past 10 years, but unlike the Star Wars Style A and Style D, there NEVER seems to be a genuine Style C listed on eBay---unless, of course, it's in an eBay store for $1995 or $3995...or an even higher price. Can some Star Wars expert out there tell me the approximate ratio of Star Wars Style C one sheets out there compared to Styles A and D...and what value they put on each... Thanks very much in advance, Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE C 1-SHT QUESTION For STAR WARS MOVIE POSTER EXPERT
I'd be surprised if they had no ratings, but, honestly, I have no memory of it and I'm sure I didn't look. That wasn't an important issue to what we were doing at Lucasfilm. (Again, we weren't doing the distribution to theaters.) Craig. At 01:45 PM 2/3/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Craig Did you posters you saw in 1977 have ratings or no ratings? Bruce On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Craig Miller mailto:cr...@wolfmill.comcr...@wolfmill.com wrote: I can't give you any of the proofs you asked for in your message, Bruce, but as a publicist working at The Star Wars Corporation/ Lucasfilm in 1977 I can tell you that Style C posters definitely existed, were sent to theaters, etc. I have no idea how many were printed, shipped to theaters, etc., as that was all handled by Fox. Craig. At 06:13 AM 2/3/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Rick, I have wondered the same thing. I have talked to many poster collectors who were collecting when the movie first came out, and they say that this poster did not appear on the collector's market at all in 1977, and that a year or two later a ton of them appeared (the ones that are rolled or lightly hand folded). Some people I have talked to wonder if these aren't the result of someone getting the printer to run off a bunch of these at a later date. We know there WAS such a poster in 1977 with ratings (because printer's proofs have turned up), and it is also possible that the no ratings posters were from an international release in 1978. Can any expert show an image of any theater anywhere that displayed this poster in 1977? Or can any expert who was collecting back then tell that they purchased one or more of these in 1977, and not at a later date? Bruce On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:32 AM, mailto:rixpost...@aol.comrixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I'm not that tremendously knowledgable when it comes to STAR WARS material, but of the posters from the three original films in the Star Wars trilogy, it appears hands down as if the 1977 Star Wars Style C one sheet is the most difficult to find...definitely more so than the style D and even more so than Revenge Of The Jedi. (Of course the 'birthday cake one sheet tops them all, but I'd put that in a different category altogether) Anyway, I was searching the results of Heritage's auctions and there must be 8 or 10 Star Wars Style D one sheets for every ONE style Star Wars Style C (if that many!). Hey, I know there's a ton of rolled, repro Style C one sheets out there--but those also DON'T COUNT. I'm talking about original, authentic Star Wars Style C one sheets. Could some expert on Star Wars material out there let me know the story on this poster? It's rarity in relation to other Star Wars posters, etc. Hey, I've seen a helluva lot of those BOGUS Style C's over the past 10 years, but unlike the Star Wars Style A and Style D, there NEVER seems to be a genuine Style C listed on eBay---unless, of course, it's in an eBay store for $1995 or $3995...or an even higher price. Can some Star Wars expert out there tell me the approximate ratio of Star Wars Style C one sheets out there compared to Styles A and D...and what value they put on each... Thanks very much in advance, Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment mailto:cr...@wolfmill.comcr...@wolfmill.com ~ ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE C 1-SHT QUESTION For STAR WARS MOVIE POSTER EXPERT
I can certainly confirm that Fox did not believe Star Wars would be a big hit. There was small hope it would break even. Fox thought their big summer movie would be Damnation Alley. They were, of course, wrong on both counts. Craig. At 01:48 PM 2/3/2010, Robert Maddison wrote: We operated theaters from the 1960's on and this is what I remember about the release of Star Wars to theaters. Our theaters were being serviced out of the Des Moines, IA branch of Twentieth Century Fox, Dave Gold, the manager. Prior to being released, it was apparently felt by Fox that Star Wars was not going to be anything big. They were selling it to theaters in the area, including ours, for either a low percentage of the ticket receipts and even in some cases in small towns at a flat rental (35mm prints available after they finished use in first run theaters). After finding Fox had a hit on their hands, Fox sent their salesmen out trying to get many theater owners to void the original contracts and sign new ones. Those of us who refused made a killing on our runs of Star Wars. Since Fox didn't have a lot of faith in the film, it's very possible that a low number of the original style C posters were printed for the first run. I'm pretty sure that style was the poster we had at the time. I sold mine on eBay years ago (another killing) and no longer have an image in my computer to verify for sure. Robert Maddison Craig Miller wrote: I can't give you any of the proofs you asked for in your message, Bruce, but as a publicist working at The Star Wars Corporation/ Lucasfilm in 1977 I can tell you that Style C posters definitely existed, were sent to theaters, etc. I have no idea how many were printed, shipped to theaters, etc., as that was all handled by Fox. Craig. At 06:13 AM 2/3/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Rick, I have wondered the same thing. I have talked to many poster collectors who were collecting when the movie first came out, and they say that this poster did not appear on the collector's market at all in 1977, and that a year or two later a ton of them appeared (the ones that are rolled or lightly hand folded). Some people I have talked to wonder if these aren't the result of someone getting the printer to run off a bunch of these at a later date. We know there WAS such a poster in 1977 with ratings (because printer's proofs have turned up), and it is also possible that the no ratings posters were from an international release in 1978. Can any expert show an image of any theater anywhere that displayed this poster in 1977? Or can any expert who was collecting back then tell that they purchased one or more of these in 1977, and not at a later date? Bruce On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:32 AM, rixpost...@aol.com mailto:rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I'm not that tremendously knowledgable when it comes to STAR WARS material, but of the posters from the three original films in the Star Wars trilogy, it appears hands down as if the 1977 Star Wars Style C one sheet is the most difficult to find...definitely more so than the style D and even more so than Revenge Of The Jedi. (Of course the 'birthday cake one sheet tops them all, but I'd put that in a different category altogether) Anyway, I was searching the results of Heritage's auctions and there must be 8 or 10 Star Wars Style D one sheets for every ONE style Star Wars Style C (if that many!). Hey, I know there's a ton of rolled, repro Style C one sheets out there--but those also DON'T COUNT. I'm talking about original, authentic Star Wars Style C one sheets. Could some expert on Star Wars material out there let me know the story on this poster? It's rarity in relation to other Star Wars posters, etc. Hey, I've seen a helluva lot of those BOGUS Style C's over the past 10 years, but unlike the Star Wars Style A and Style D, there NEVER seems to be a genuine Style C listed on eBay---unless, of course, it's in an eBay store for $1995 or $3995...or an even higher price. Can some Star Wars expert out there tell me the approximate ratio of Star Wars Style C one sheets out there compared to Styles A and D...and what value they put on each... Thanks very much in advance, Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE C 1-SHT
If anyone's interested, I have a Style C available for sale. It's currently with a friend with a bookstore who wanted to try selling it for me, so I can't pull it out to look at, but here's how he describes it in his catalog: Star Wars Style C one sheet, tri fold, never folded vertically. Artwork by Tom Chantrll, per Sansweet and Vilmur, this poster was never intended for US distribution. Perhaps less than 500 were made and distributed. 27 x 41 1/32. A nice copy of another rare poster, a C9. I hadn't looked at the listing before so I didn't see this about the quantity or purpose. I have absolutely no memory of anyone ever telling us that they weren't theatrical. I think we just assumed they were because they were with all of our one-sheets. We just used them for publicity and promotional purposes. I'm not sure where my friend got the information from Steve and Pete but they're in a position to actually know. Pete's currently asked me to review some material for a new book on the history of Star Wars so I'll double check with him. Craig. At 03:07 PM 2/3/2010, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: From some of these posts, it almost seems as if a truly authentic Style C Star Wars 1-Sheet is almost on the level of an authentic Star Wars Birthday Cake one sheet, a possible fact that is really surprising to me. As I recall, 20 or 35 years ago, the Style C one sheet at least occasionally appeared and it wasn't viewed as that much more rare than the Style D. Nowadays, it seems like at any oiven time you can find at least 1 or 2 Style D one sheets listed on eBay---there are at least a dozen in Heritage's auction records---but I don't know if there's a single Style C. Apparently, a lot of collectors are holding on to their Style C Star Wars one sheets. Like I said, it all seems a bit mysterious to me. Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE C 1-SHT QUESTION For STAR WARS MOVIE POSTER EXPERT
Just heard back from Pete Vilmur. He says: The style Cs are definitely considered theatrical -- the reason some think they were not is because there is no PG rating printed on the posters. Granted, many of the style Cs probably were sent abroad to international venues (I believe it was printed in late 77), but I'm sure some must have landed in domestic theaters as well (I've never seen a photo of one at a theater, though). As for the print count at 500, I've heard that, but there's no way to confirm. They are pretty scarce, though. Yes, I've heard the b-day posters figure pegged at 500 as well, but again, difficult to say since I've never found any hard evidence to confirm. I will say that the b-day poster seems to come up more often than the Style C, though. If I had to guess, I'd say 500 on the C and 1000 on the b-day. But that's just a guess ;) Alas, far from a definitive answer. Oh, well. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] EXCELLENT ARTICLE ON REMAKE POSTERS
At 05:49 PM 12/7/2009, Rudy Franchi wrote: Quite a bit of work went into this piece on remake posters vs. those for the original release. http://sixrevisions.com/graphics-design/a-comparative-design-look-at-remakes-of-movie-posters/ A really interesting article. Thanks, Rudy, for passing it along. Others have pointed out where it's inaccurate for including re-issue posters, rather than the actual initial release posters. I'll point out one where it's, perhaps, too accurate. For The Wicker Man, he includes the poster Warner Bros. used for its test market of the film before they shelved it. (The poster was part of Warner's poor campaign, selling the film as a shocker thriller and revealing the surprise ending; something the remake's poster did as well.) The poster used for the actual general -- albeit independent -- release looked completely different. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Remake Poster Site
At 09:08 AM 12/8/2009, Rudy Franchi wrote: I just knew that when I posted that site we would start hearing from the nit-wit-pickers of MOPO. Obviously the fellow who put the article together is not a anorakian victim of Asperger's syndrome, but just someone who was contrasting older versions of posters with contemporary posters for remakes of the same film. He remains blissfully unaware that he selected the Antarctican advance or the Tasmanian teaser instead of the original Bulgarian release. I've said it before: this once pleasant hobby devoted to the graphic power of movie poster images has been taken over by a bunch of nerds who want to turn it into effing stamp collecting! rudy Rudy: I think you're over-reacting a little. Everyone seemed to think it was a good article. I think pretty much everyone mentioned that, and appreciated that you'd pointed it out. Some people -- including me, I admit -- pointed out that, in a few cases, he wasn't comparing the items he thought he was comparing. In most cases, he found a example from a re-issue which might have had different art from the first release. In the example I pointed out, he found an example from the first US release, but it was a test market and not the poster eventually used for the release most people saw. (And, yes, I'm biased; I designed the general release poster.) Yes, these could be seen as complaints but they were mentions of corrections; ways to make the article even better. Nobody said the article was bad or worthless or anything of the kind. Just the same way people talk about movies: because we don't love every aspect of a film doesn't mean we think the movie is bad or disapprove of the people who made it. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Disney Co buys Marvel Comics for $4billion
You're quite correct that there are various deals in place with various terms and restrictions. No doubt Disney will be spending a good deal on lawyers trying to figure out how to unravel some of the deals. Besides Variety and the Hollywood Reporter, try Nikki Finke's Deadline Hollywood Daily website. Nikki's spoken with many involved parties and has a good deal of detail on the terms of these deals. Craig. At 04:49 AM 9/1/2009, Franc wrote: I think it's going to depend on how the characters were licensed to Universal Park and Universal Films. If the characters were exclusively licensed for a set term to Universal Theme Parks, Disney will have to wait until the license expires. If the characters were licensed to Universal Pictures and Universal Pictures has the exclusive right to license theme park rides based on these characters, Disney is stuck and will have to buy back those rights. I'm sure this will come out in the trade stories. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of MotionPictureArt.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:07 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Disney Co buys Marvel Comics for $4billion Indeed, that's why I'm so interested in the effects of this. Universal has a theme park called Islands of Adventure and one of the islands is a Marvel island. Disney and universal are big competitors, so I wonder what whit happen next. Is Universal going to change the Marvel island into a different theme, that's just what happened when Warner Bros. sold a bunch of their parks, or does Disney have a trick up their sleeves. Disney has tried to take over the Universal parks in the past so who knows. The best and most creative attraction at Islands of Adventure (and probably the whole world in my opinion) is based on Spider-Man. Rumors are already spreading that this ride might be replaced with a similar one based on Transformers. And how will Disney incorporate the Marvel characters, just an attraction here and there or maybe a fifth theme park??? We'll just wait and see. Ron - Original Message - From: Franc fdav...@verizon.net To: 'MotionPictureArt.com' i...@motionpictureart.com; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [MOPO] Disney Co buys Marvel Comics for $4billion Aren't the Marvel character already rides at Universal? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of MotionPictureArt.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:20 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Disney Co buys Marvel Comics for $4billion I wonder how this will affect the Orlando theme parks if the deal goes through. Ron - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [MOPO] Disney Co buys Marvel Comics for $4billion http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Disney-to-acquire-Marvel-for-apf-730717 1 39.html?x=0.v=5 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Posters Should Not Foreshadow
I am the MoPo member who designed the later one-sheet for THE WICKER MAN. When the showed me the artwork that Warner Bros. had come up with for the film, I couldn't believe that they'd given away the surprise ending. (Thanks for liking my version.) Craig. At 11:57 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: yes it does in a way, BUT to be truthfull, the aussie video, which has it as a photo, scared the shite outta me (and gave it ALL away), but I was still surprised at the ending, the US poster, or rather one of them (2 releases - for the original ) was designed by a member of Mopo (my favourite art, but still want a UK 1sht) and I managed to get a rolled version, in my top 3 films of all time (maybe top 5 depending on the day and my mood) Ari --- On Thu, 27/8/09, Craig Miller cr...@wolfmill.com wrote: From: Craig Miller cr...@wolfmill.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Posters Should Not Foreshadow To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Thursday, 27 August, 2009, 11:29 AM The original US poster for THE WICKER MAN (the original one, not the awful remake) showed the surprise ending. Craig. At 05:58 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: the other night, i watched for the first time, KIND LADY. with the great ethel barrymore. afterwards, i did a poster search. boy, am i glad that i didn't read the poster first. the poster gives away the plot; the poster ruins the development of the plot; would have ruined the first 25minutes, or so. poster link from bruce's site: http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/162129.html POSTERS SHOULD NOT TELL THE STORY! agree? of course, hitchcock's THE WRONG MAN does this in the title. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig Miller Wolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Posters Should Not Foreshadow
The original US poster for THE WICKER MAN (the original one, not the awful remake) showed the surprise ending. Craig. At 05:58 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: the other night, i watched for the first time, KIND LADY. with the great ethel barrymore. afterwards, i did a poster search. boy, am i glad that i didn't read the poster first. the poster gives away the plot; the poster ruins the development of the plot; would have ruined the first 25minutes, or so. poster link from bruce's site: http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/162129.htmlhttp://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/162129.html POSTERS SHOULD NOT TELL THE STORY! agree? of course, hitchcock's THE WRONG MAN does this in the title. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] OT: Here's what I've been doing lately
Go to http://resistance-themovie.com to see the trailer for my latest project. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] When is buyer's premium too high?
The size of the commission/seller's premium/whatever you want to call it doesn't matter to the buyer. The amount of the Buyer's Premium -- the amount extra the buyer has to pay -- definitely matters. I went to the Forry Ackerman Auction at Profiles in History. As a buyer, the percentage of the hammer price didn't have an effect on how much I bid. But the 18% Buyer's Premium sure did. Add the 9.25% state sales tax and you've got just over 27% added to the hammer price. That's a considerable inducement to bid less. (And, in fact, there was an item I wanted, for which I was willing to spend $1500. Which meant I couldn't bid over $1200 (in fact a bit less). Craig. At 06:43 PM 6/11/2009, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: to a seller, any premium above a few points starts becoming a negative every point the premium goes up is another point taken from the consignor because if a buyer was willing to pay $1000 with premium included before, when the premium gets raised, the buyer doesn't say oh, that dealer is taking a beating.. I'll kick in the extra 5% No.. you instead bid a number lower than you previously would have and the final sale to the consignor is less for the buyer's side.. it shouldn't make any difference what the premium is. If you were willing to pay $1000 total before, you're still only willing to pay $1000 Rich ps Doug.. pics are coming to you shortly At 05:58 PM 6/11/2009, Douglas Ball wrote: I thought buyer's premium @ 15% was just too damn high, but looking at Julien's auction is now 28% and Bonham's, 22%. When is enough going to be enough? Ebay is starting to look good again! Doug Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Star Wars Other Fakes
I remember that someone on MoPo has a website with information on unauthorized reprints of Star Wars and other posters, but I can't remember who or the URL. Help. Thanks, Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OFF THE TOPIC GREAT PUZZLE
There is no bus driver. Which is why the girls eventually had to get off the bus. Otherwise they'd never get to school. Craig. At 03:41 AM 3/19/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote: What about the bus driver? On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Michael B mailto:dialmbb...@aol.comdialmbb...@aol.com wrote: i made the following post yesterday, of which the answer appears below the question-BUT SCROLL DOWN A LOT IF YOU WANNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER: THIS IS NOT A TRICK QUESTION. IT IS A REAL MATH PROBLEM. SEND YOUR ANSWER TO ME PRIVATELY, so that you don't spoil the game for others. There are 7 girls on a bus Each girl has 7 backpacks. In each backpack, there are 7 big cats. For every big cat, there are 7 little cats. There is no bus driver. Question: HOW MANY LEGS are on the bus ? this is NOT a trick question. just do the math. send the answer privately to me have fun on OFF TOPIC question. michael - - - - - - - - - - 3 people got the answer with one reply 6 people neednt some encouragement and a hint before getting the answer 2 people kept trying and ultimately got it 8 people gave up.. answer below - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ANSWER: 10,990 7 girls 343 big cats 2401 little cats ---then do the math!!! BYE michael -- Job Hunting? http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/5-companies?ncid=emlweuscare0002Start with the companies that posted job openings this week. -- Job Hunting? http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/5-companies?ncid=emlweuscare0002Start with the companies that posted job openings this week. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Speaking of Stephen Fishler...
At 03:29 PM 3/15/2009, David Kusumoto wrote: ** Today, Comic-Con is gigantic, with crowds of around 100,000 or more held at the huge San Diego Convention Center on the harbor -- and though the event still retains its geek factor -- it's far more inclusive, with tons of stuff for children and movie-related material and events going constantly. When Comic-Con started, its only attendees were young adults and grumpy old men. The trouble today is few can afford to attend Comic-Con. And I understand that this year's bash is already sold out. In terms of its impact on traffic and people crowding our streets -- Comic-Con is bigger than the Super Bowls our city has hosted. Every Comic-Con, locals avoid downtown. But now that we have a major league baseball stadium downtown, it's a nightmare. Comic Con is gigantic but it's actually quite affordable. I've been attending as a professional since the late 1970s so haven't paid for a membership in 30+ years but I believe a full (four-day) membership is around $65 or $75. Individual days can be had for as little as $20. Right now, it's only the four-day memberships that are sold out. There are oodles of daily memberships still available. Saturday -- being the con's most crowded day -- still had 75% of its memberships available. The other days had still higher percentages available. I suspect that will change quite soon, now that the full memberships are gone. But even buying four one- day memberships, the freight is only $110. Not free but hardly out of reach for a high percentage of the population who might be interested. What is expensive are hotel rooms. San Diego is never a cheap town to stay in and the hotels take advantage of what events are in town to raise their prices to see what the traffic will bear. (Personally, I'm not willing to pay $200 a night to stay in walking distance of the convention center so I stay about a mile away, at a very nice little hotel in Little Italy, for about half that rate.) Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Speaking of Stephen Fishler...
At 04:20 PM 3/15/2009, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the past 2 years, the fire marshall has shut down entry until other attendees left. so last year on Saturday, several thousand people who had waited on line for 6 hours to buy a ticket get in couldn't buy a ticket never got inside to the show. Crap like that is unacceptable as a business practice Two years ago, the Fire Marshall had the convention stop selling memberships for 60-90 minutes on Saturday early afternoon, until he could assertain if everyone in line could get in without it being a fire hazard. They decided they could and the sale of memberships was restarted. There was no such stoppage last year that I'm aware of. But Richard is definitely right that the show has changed a great deal since the old days of the El Cortez or even the old Convention Center. It's not nearly the fun it used to be. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] cells
Which are, of course cells in name only. With rare exception, they were created for sale and weren't used in the actual production they're from. But can you be a bit more specific about what you are looking for? Features only? TV? Famous films/series/characters? US only? Thanks, Craig. At 03:47 PM 2/28/2009, JOE GLENN wrote: looking for animation cells, and please not the signed and numbered mass market stuff. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscars-- best show in eons
I agree with Joe. The opening number was lots of fun. We were at a party and everyone was laughing. And we liked the group tributes to the actor nominees. It added a personal dimension. Far more interesting than just reading a list of names. Not the best show ever but definitely good. I don't know why people had trouble reading the names on the In Memorium tribute. We didn't have any problems. Craig. At 08:05 AM 2/23/2009, Joseph Bonelli wrote: Sorry, guys!! Totally disagree with you both. Loved the opening number! On the whole, not only Jackman but the show is the best in years!! Joe B in NOLA (skipping Val Kilmer's Canal Street ride as Bacchus) PS-- Thank God for NO lame US-TV personality hosts! Happy Lundi Gras (today) and Mardi Gras (Tuesday!) to all. --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Jeff Potokar jpotok...@ca.rr.com wrote: From: Jeff Potokar jpotok...@ca.rr.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Oscars To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 7:51 PM i agree doug... that was PATHETIC. jeff On Feb 22, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Doug Taylor wrote: If that opening number is any indication, this will be the most grueling 3 hours of our lives. My gawd. DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylorProfile Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OSCARS---WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GREAT SONGS?
At 10:53 AM 2/23/2009, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Over the past few years, I've noticed that the level of songwriting in the Best Song Academy Award category has diminished to the point of pure mediocrity. Not only are only THREE songs nominated (didn't it always used to be 5?), but the songs that ARE nominated won't be remembered 3 or 4 years from now---songs like As Time Goes By will never be forgotten. Hey, I'm not a big fan of Moon River, but it seems like Mozart next to the inferior songs that are nominated these days. When It's Hard To Be A Pimp won a couple of years ago, I thought we'd nit an all-time low (maybe we had, come to think about it...) Why wasn't Bruce Springsteen's closing song from The Wrestler nominated? When I saw that film, the whole audience stayed in their seats to listen to that song, which captured the essence of the movie perfectly. Isn't that what Best Song Of The Year should do? It was BY FAR the best song of the year. Whether you're a fan of Springsteen or not, I think you'll agree with me if you watch The Wrestler and listen to it over the closing credits. It seems like the art of writing a great, enduring song is a thing of the past when it comes to The Oscars The rules for the Oscars are a bizarre amalgam of attempts to correct problems by which they create new and different problems. In order to eliminate nominations for songs unrelated to the content of the film but included at the end to goose up soundtrack album sales, the Academy change the rules a couple years ago to declare that songs had to appear during the film and could not be just in the credits (this also dealt with Disney's submitting versions of songs sung by rock stars over the closing credits rather than the version sung by voice actors during the actual film). That's what did in Springstein's song The Wrestler. Seeing which songs ended up getting nominations and which songs were ineligible this year (there was another really good song that got axed for similar reasons but I forget what it was at the moment), the Academy is going back in to once again rethink the Best Song category's rules for next year. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
At 12:18 PM 2/23/2009, David Kusumoto wrote: I was extremely disappointed with Sean Penn's win. Sean Penn is an outstanding actor who gave an uncharacteristically loose, engaging and wonderful turn as an heroic figure -- in what I thought was a conventionally structured, by-the-numbers-bio-pic capped with the standard where-are-they-now text epilogue. His performance was noble and deserving -- but his victory was politically correct and in keeping with the Academy's self-seriousness to anoint things historic that makes it feel good about itself (hence the standing ovation). But in my view, the demands of his role paled compared to Mickey Rourke's shattering, full-range performance in The Wrestler. I am not a fan of Mickey Rourke and dislike him intensely. But I could not ignore -- having seen all the performances nominated this year -- what he did in this picture, from start to finish. His character was an exercise in total immersion, on par with what I believe have been the best larger-than-life performances nominated since 1980 -- including De Niro in Raging Bull (win), Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs (win), and Liam Neeson in Schindler's List (lost to Tom Hanks). This was, by far, Sean Penn's best performance. He's a heavily mannered actor whose performances are always full of the things actors love: screaming, crying, dying, being mentally handicapped. You can always see acting. But in Milk, he gave a subtle, nuanced performance that wasn't full of ticks. He relaxed into the character and stopped being Sean Penn, A*c*t*o*r. I thought he deserved the award (although I also thought that Mickey Rourke was excellent). While not related to who should win for their performance, I thought Milk a better film than The Wrestler. Rourke and Marisa Tomei were both great but the film was only okay. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OSCARS---WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GREAT SONGS?
Peter Gabriel had an opportunity to perform his song. He declined. (It would have been better to give each song more than 65 seconds in a medley, which is what he objected to, but it wasn't that the Academy or the show's producers who wouldn't let him perform.) Craig. At 01:47 PM 2/23/2009, Toochis Morin wrote: I agree with your comments. I wish Peter Gabriel got to perform his song. toochis From: Jeff Potokar jpotok...@ca.rr.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:31:47 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OSCARS---WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GREAT SONGS? i agree, rick--add to that that 2 of the 3 of the nominated songs were from SLUMDOG. and could the composer/songwriter from SLUMDOG have been any less ungrateful (or at least sounding and appearing so)? gimme a break with that. Springsteen's song should have at least been in the running. on a side note-- i also really missed showing a brief clip of the nominees-- usually giving just a taste of the performance they have been nominated for. the rather boring 5 panel salutes of being talked down to from the stage by past winners?? OK, the first time was unique--i had NO idea that was going to be the theme. and i think Michael Douglas had about 3 lines to say about Frank Langella?? man o man... jeff On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:53 AM, mailto:rixpost...@aol.comrixpost...@aol.com wrote: Over the past few years, I've noticed that the level of songwriting in the Best Song Academy Award category has diminished to the point of pure mediocrity. Not only are only THREE songs nominated (didn't it always used to be 5?), but the songs that ARE nominated won't be remembered 3 or 4 years from now---songs like As Time Goes By will never be forgotten. Hey, I'm not a big fan of Moon River, but it seems like Mozart next to the inferior songs that are nominated these days. When It's Hard To Be A Pimp won a couple of years ago, I thought we'd nit an all-time low (maybe we had, come to think about it...) Why wasn't Bruce Springsteen's closing song from The Wrestler nominated? When I saw that film, the whole audience stayed in their seats to listen to that song, which captured the essence of the movie perfectly. Isn't that what Best Song Of The Year should do? It was BY FAR the best song of the year. Whether you're a fan of Springsteen or not, I think you'll agree with me if you watch The Wrestler and listen to it over the closing credits. It seems like the art of writing a great, enduring song is a thing of the past when it comes to The Oscars Rick -- You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscars what I didnt like
At 02:06 PM 2/23/2009, Dave Smith wrote: Did they even show Heath during the memorium segment? I was waiting to see the audience reaction and I don't recall they showed him. And he did pass away in '08 so he should have been included? They did show it. Last year. He died just prior to last year's award show and was included in last year's In Memorium segment. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscars what I didnt like
At 02:37 PM 2/23/2009, Jeff Potokar wrote: that's right...he was memorialized last year technically, incorrect It was not technically, incorrect. It's people who died *in the* last year, not people who died last year. There's nothing about it being for those dead before December 31st. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscar who?
At 12:34 AM 2/24/2009, Phil Edwards wrote: hhhmmm is the live Oscars show different to the re-packaged for later broadcast in other time zones? I know in years past, the version in Australia missed many of the so-called minor awards (you know, short films, documentaries, inclusion of the separate technical achievement awards, etc. that people had slaved years over accomplsihing) to have more time on the red carpet with de Starz. As it happens, I'm working on a project with an Australian production company and two of the producers were up here for meetings. So on Saturday I took them to the Razzie Awards and on Sunday we went to a friend's home for an Oscar Watching Party. They said that the show is shortened in Australia. I assume it isn't shown live there, since that would have it running from noon to 3:30 on Monday afternoon. Not the greatest time for garnering an audience. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fun MOPO Thread
At 09:14 PM 11/9/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: In New York in the 1950s and early 1960s they had The Million Dollar Movie on local Channel 9 (with the theme music from Gone With the Wind which was rumored to have been shown as the first The Million Dollar Movie but had been too expensive and that was merely urban legend), and every day at 1 PM, 7 PM, 9 PM and 11 PM they would show the same movie for an entire week, 20 times each! The Million Dollar Movie was syndicated or maybe a format or a package; I don't really know how it was done at that time but it existed in many different cities around the country, with the same title, theme music, and multiple airings of a film for the week. I remember once, when I was a kid, that on a particular Sunday, the only thing I could find on the TV was religion, golf, and The Crawling Eye, which aired *three* times that day. There really was no escape from that eye. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] HAPPY HALLOWEEN ((( trivia )))
At 06:46 AM 10/16/2008, Michael B wrote: the only movie that i am aware that has a Halloween scene is ARSENIC AND OLD LACE. i believe it was of trick or treaters. any others ?? Meet Me In St. Louis Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] FS: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK COLLECTIBLE POSTER
I can't remember for certain but I believe there were either three or four different Coca-Cola designs. It was part of a licensing/promotional deal -- Coke glasses, etc. -- and we had to approve them at Lucasfilm. It was under me so I wasn't directly involved with the approvals but I seem to recall multiple designs. Craig. At 10:00 AM 9/4/2008, Larry Springer wrote: HI AGAIN - I sent the previous message and forgot to list another item for sale. I have five (5) absolutely mint, rolled, never displayed posters from the Coca-Cola Company advertising THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. They were copyrighted in 1980 by Lucas Film Ltd. The artwork is by Boris. A very nice vintage collectable from the film. All five are the same image (not sure if there was a series of these). Great image of the characters with Darth Vader the prominent image!!! Fine looking poster! All five for a lot price of $25 plus postage. Larry Springer ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Frames
I've been travelling a lot and come late to this topic but I echo everyone else's vote of confidence for Sue. She's framed stuff for me and it's always great. And I just sent a close friend to her to have a birthday present for his wife -- a photo -- framed. Craig. At 08:53 AM 8/23/2008, Susan Heim wrote: Hello all, Wow! A girl goes away to sleep for the night and next morning all this love in the mailbox!! Seriously, thank you all so much for the kind words and recommendations to Steve. If you are reading this Steve, I too am in the Los Angeles area, the San Fernando Valley to be exact. Just call me and I will give you directions and the hours we are open to the public. I will include my local phone number. You are very fortunate to have found this group of folks as you start your collection. No question here is too rudimenatary. As most of us are longtime collectors and everyone here is always willing to help. As several said in their posts, there is always somebody out there willing to part you and your money and give you shoddy material or take advantage of you. So, I tell all my customers that are newer collectors to join this group and ask away. Thanks again guys for the vote of confidence. Sue Heim http://www.hollywoodposterframes.comwww.hollywoodposterframes.com (800) 463-2994 toll free (818) 709-6557 local -- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:35:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Frames To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I have 10 frames from Hollywwod Poster Frames. Budget all the way to Deluxe. Yes, stick with Sue. Integrity, honesty, Intelligence, and outstanding tutorials if you request. Saul Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT Heinlein et al
At 08:31 PM 8/20/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Once in the late 1970s, I actually wrote Heinlein a fan letter, asking about some apparent contradictions in his Future History series. To my amazement I got back a handwritten letter from Mrs Heinlein, saying that they were written over many years, and that I should be forgiving of some little errors here and there and besides the books weren't real anyway! If there was ONE person in history I would have liked to talked to at length, it is RAH. He made more correct predictions about the future than Nostradamus and Da Vinci combined! Heinlein was pretty amazing, both as a writer and as a person. I met him several times in the mid-'70s and '80s. And we corresponded a bit as well. After a blood transfusion which he felt saved his life, at his request, I organized the first Heinlein Blood Drive at a science fiction convention in 1976. Since then, they've become standard events at science fiction conventions all over the US, though by now most of them are just blood drives with people having no memory that they were inspired by Heinlein. Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, one of his juveniles, was the first science fiction book I ever read. A fond memory of him I have is, one time, over a very tasty dinner, the awful subject of food being fattening came up. I glibly commented that calories are what they put into food to make it taste good. Heinlein stared at me for a second, stood up, and shook my hand. Politics, however, was one subject we stayed away from discussing. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT Heinlein et al
The blood drive didn't have posters in the sense that there were scads of them -- or any of them -- printed up. They were done by a couple of artists I knew, all one-off, and posted around the convention at which the blood drive was taking place (the 1976 Westercon in Los Angeles). We'd also announced it in the convention's publications prior to the event. Later that year, the World Science Fiction Convention, held that year in Kansas City with RAH as Guest of Honor, hosted another one. And they've since spread. Craig. At 04:22 PM 8/21/2008, Ari Richards wrote: Thats great, RAH politics never REALLY sit right with me, but I get where he is coming from. In a certain case his writing did sway me. regarding the blood drive, as a fan I knew/know where it comes from EXCEPT a mopo member was responsible. WOW! Thats GREAT Craig and to get back ON tpoic, if you have any of the first BLOOD DRIVE posters for sale LMK. Ari --- On Fri, 22/8/08, Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT Heinlein et al To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 2:06 AM At 08:31 PM 8/20/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Once in the late 1970s, I actually wrote Heinlein a fan letter, asking about some apparent contradictions in his Future History series. To my amazement I got back a handwritten letter from Mrs Heinlein, saying that they were written over many years, and that I should be forgiving of some little errors here and there and besides the books weren't real anyway! If there was ONE person in history I would have liked to talked to at length, it is RAH. He made more correct predictions about the future than Nostradamus and Da Vinci combined! Heinlein was pretty amazing, both as a writer and as a person. I met him several times in the mid-'70s and '80s. And we corresponded a bit as well. After a blood transfusion which he felt saved his life, at his request, I organized the first Heinlein Blood Drive at a science fiction convention in 1976. Since then, they've become standard events at science fiction conventions all over the US, though by now most of them are just blood drives with people having no memory that they were inspired by Heinlein. Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, one of his juveniles, was the first science fiction book I ever read. A fond memory of him I have is, one time, over a very tasty dinner, the awful subject of food being fattening came up. I glibly commented that calories are what they put into food to make it taste good. Heinlein stared at me for a second, stood up, and shook my hand. Politics, however, was one subject we stayed away from discussing. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
At 10:41 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: the lighting and camera work also leaves a good deal to be desired. I'll pass your critique along: he only shot movies like X-Men II, Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants, The Fantastic Four, Elf, Paycheck, etc... oh, and the Canadian classic Hookers on Davie! I'm sure he'll be pleased to hear your thoughts... And, what kind of quality do you expect for an 80+ minute film shot in less than 5 days??? I'm confused. X-Men II's DP was Newton Thomas Sigel. Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants' was done by John Bailey. For Fantastic Four it was Oliver Reed. Etc. Etc. Why does your DP use all those aliases when he works? Craig. - Original Message - From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert D. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? IMDB is a wonderful website. It's invaluable. But they don't only list feature films. They list TV episodes (actually series, but with listings for each episode). And they list short films. One minute. Two minutes. Ten minutes. Twenty minutes in length. I'm discussing feature films. If you include everything, of all lengths, designed for any and all mediums, than yes, your number isn't some wild ass guess with no basis in fact. It's still a guess but it's closer to reality. If you're talking about actual feature length films made with at least the hope of a theatrical release, then your number is way way way off. Even if we accept the IMDB number as being accurate, and double it for the rest of the year, it's only half the number you first gave and only an eighth of the number you later increased it to. But, of course, we can't really accept the IMDB number because it isn't only feature films. And while this film you give as an example might be feature length -- I'll take your word for it, since what's on YouTube is just 10 minutes long -- it's also apparently soft-core porn, which can be made very very cheaply. The acting, from the couple minutes I watched, is hardly top quality; the lighting and camera work also leaves a good deal to be desired. For a Troma direct-to-DVD, it's fine, but it isn't theatrical quality. And I'm guessing I must have missed the parts that qualify it as being much better than what comes out of the studios. Oh, and if you want to throw credits back and forth, I've worked on major studio films and independent films. I've been a guest speaker at film festivals and distribution markets in the US, the UK, France, Italy, and the Screen Producers Association of Australia (an organization of independent film producers) just asked me to come speak at their conference in November. (I've even been on panels with Lloyd Kaufman.) I've worked with George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, Jim Henson, Tom Hanks, John Boorman, Christopher Lee, Edward Woodward, Ken Russell, Anthony Shaffer, Robin Hardy, Richard Lester, Richard Donner, Howard Gottfried, Danny Melnick, Frank Oz, Frank Marshall, Luigi Cingolani, John Carpenter, Oliver Stone, Ed Pressman, etc. etc. etc. So I do know what I'm talking about. Craig. At 08:42 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: So, if $20 million is a 'low budget,' this is what I did with about 1/8th of 1% of that amount (meaning I would have to make this movie almost 1,000 times - just to have a budget high enough to be considered 'low')... Although, I'll warn anyone that dares click: NSFW (it is a Troma-film after all, so don't come crying to me if...)! ;o) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMoKB9Zk0E Cheers, Bob PS. Note to Craig: You may just notice a couple names in the credits there: one is currently the chairman of the Independent Film and TV Alliance and the other is the head of the oldest independent film studio in existence, so while I may not have your 30 years in the business (only about 20 here), understand that I do know what I'm talking about! And, just to prove I'm right: http://www.imdb.com/List?year=2008 You'll notice that there are about 12,000 movies listed there - just from the last 6 months (and they only list a fraction of all the movies made - very few student films, foreign films, ultra-low-budget films, etc...). I guess I should be expecting an apology?... - Original Message - From: Craig Miller To: Robert D. Brooks Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? You're missing the point. You're wrong about the number of movies made. Your numbers all seem to be wild guesses and you haven't specified if you're talking about feature length films or including all lengths and formats. I can only believe you're doing the latter because your numbers are just way, way off for the former. (And what makes you think each film festival gets applications
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
This debate is now officially silly. Yes, DPs aren't their own camera operators (especially when there's more than one camera at a time going). But some do still operate the camera. We were about to do a preliminary shoot for a project with Andrew Lesnie (DP on Lord of the Rings trilogy, etc.) in Australia last month when Night Shyamalan stole him away from us with a bigger contract. He was going to operate his own camera. And when someone brags about the guy who shot a list of pictures, they mean the person in charge, who designed the shots, who came up with the plan, and who's responsible for the way the picture looks. Not the guy who held the camera. His job is important, too, but he isn't considered the person who shot the movie. It's the DP who shot the picture, not the (or one of the) camera operators. One of the biggest problems with low budget independent films is they are just that: low budget. The producers frequently don't spend enough on important elements like lighting and sound. You can make a movie seem 10 times more expensive by spending just a little more to get those elements right. Craig. At 11:44 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: Where did I say he was DP??? I said he 'shot' those movies, meaning he was the one holding the camera (fyi, the DP hardly ever touches the camera). Although I'm sure he was probably DP on at least one of those as well... - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Craig Miller To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? At 10:41 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: the lighting and camera work also leaves a good deal to be desired. I'll pass your critique along: he only shot movies like X-Men II, Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants, The Fantastic Four, Elf, Paycheck, etc... oh, and the Canadian classic Hookers on Davie! I'm sure he'll be pleased to hear your thoughts... And, what kind of quality do you expect for an 80+ minute film shot in less than 5 days??? I'm confused. X-Men II's DP was Newton Thomas Sigel. Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants' was done by John Bailey. For Fantastic Four it was Oliver Reed. Etc. Etc. Why does your DP use all those aliases when he works? Craig. - Original Message - From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert D. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? IMDB is a wonderful website. It's invaluable. But they don't only list feature films. They list TV episodes (actually series, but with listings for each episode). And they list short films. One minute. Two minutes. Ten minutes. Twenty minutes in length. I'm discussing feature films. If you include everything, of all lengths, designed for any and all mediums, than yes, your number isn't some wild ass guess with no basis in fact. It's still a guess but it's closer to reality. If you're talking about actual feature length films made with at least the hope of a theatrical release, then your number is way way way off. Even if we accept the IMDB number as being accurate, and double it for the rest of the year, it's only half the number you first gave and only an eighth of the number you later increased it to. But, of course, we can't really accept the IMDB number because it isn't only feature films. And while this film you give as an example might be feature length -- I'll take your word for it, since what's on YouTube is just 10 minutes long -- it's also apparently soft-core porn, which can be made very very cheaply. The acting, from the couple minutes I watched, is hardly top quality; the lighting and camera work also leaves a good deal to be desired. For a Troma direct-to-DVD, it's fine, but it isn't theatrical quality. And I'm guessing I must have missed the parts that qualify it as being much better than what comes out of the studios. Oh, and if you want to throw credits back and forth, I've worked on major studio films and independent films. I've been a guest speaker at film festivals and distribution markets in the US, the UK, France, Italy, and the Screen Producers Association of Australia (an organization of independent film producers) just asked me to come speak at their conference in November. (I've even been on panels with Lloyd Kaufman.) I've worked with George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, Jim Henson, Tom Hanks, John Boorman, Christopher Lee, Edward Woodward, Ken Russell, Anthony Shaffer, Robin Hardy, Richard Lester, Richard Donner, Howard Gottfried, Danny Melnick, Frank Oz, Frank Marshall, Luigi Cingolani, John Carpenter, Oliver Stone, Ed Pressman, etc. etc. etc. So I do know what I'm talking about. Craig. At 08:42 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: So, if $20 million is a 'low budget
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
At 03:49 AM 7/23/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: I have a question about all these numbers being thrown around about movie budgets (e.g. $5 million, $10 million, etc). Do those figures include the buyers premium, and should that amount be included when talking about the cost of the movie? That's called the sales-agent, the completion-guarantor and EO insurance (interestingly around the same percentage as most buyers premiums when combined), and yes, you include those in the budget (except for the sales agent, who goes more on the income statement)... It doesn't matter what industry, there's always someone with their fingers in the pot... Of those, only EO insurance applies to major studio films. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
What is low budget depends on who you talk to. $10-20 million is moderately low. For a studio level film, it's positively tiny. Even for a lot of small companies, it's considered low budget. I've dealt with companies that if a film isn't over $10 million, they won't consider distributing it because it's way too low. (An average studio film is over $65 million, for comparison. So, no, $10-20 is not ridiculously high. Except in the absolute sense of why should they cost so much. But the fact is that they do.) But for people not at the studio level, $10 million is toward the high end. $2-3 million is about the range for most independent low budget films. Ones that actually have a likelihood of making a deal for distribution. Absolutely there are films made for less. $400,000-$1,000,000 is the range for low budget TV movies, such as those that air on Sci Fi Channel (and then get sold on DVD or get some theatrical distribution in Europe). And there are films made for a lot less. But those rarely are of a quality -- in terms of acting, lighting, sound, etc. -- to get any sort of distribution. Also, I doubt very strongly that there are 50,000+ English language movies are made every year. I doubt there are that many in all languages made in a given year. Unless you're including shorts and internet videos and student films, etc. Craig. At 05:09 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: What on Earth are you guys talking about?!? You're talking about 'low budget' as if $10 or 20 million was LOW! That's not a low budget, that's a ridiculously high, Hollywood budget! A million or less is a low budget. A hundred thousand or less is a shoe-string budget. Here's a clue: if there are major stars in it and a full union cast and crew, it's not 'low budget!' Probably 50,000+ English language movies are made every year, and far less than 1% of those have a budget over 5 or 10 million... Cheers, Bob Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
You're missing the point. You're wrong about the number of movies made. Your numbers all seem to be wild guesses and you haven't specified if you're talking about feature length films or including all lengths and formats. I can only believe you're doing the latter because your numbers are just way, way off for the former. (And what makes you think each film festival gets applications for a completely different group of films? Sundance requires it hasn't been shown anywhere else before them but most festivals have no such rule. And they don't say films can't play other festivals after them.) Please don't insult us by suggesting that only you are so smart as to know about films not made by the Hollywood studios or that we don't know about low budget films. I assure you, that isn't the case. And if you think the super low budget filmmakers all make wonderful movies, you clearly haven't seen a significant enough percentage of them. A large percentage of the indies are godawful. As are the majority of studio pictures. But they don't suddenly become good because they're made with low low budgets. I've been in this business over 30 years now and I've worked with and seen pictures at all different budget levels. The budget -- high or low -- isn't what makes them good. Craig. At 07:44 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: You guys don't seem to be getting my point: If 99.9% of all the films that get made in any given year have a budget less than $5 or 10 million - you can't go calling $20 million 'low budget' -even if it is low by Hollywood standards (and do you really think that I don't know what the average Hollywood budget is nowadays or how many films they put out in a year???). Hollywood isn't the only game in town! You guys (like seemingly everyone else on Earth) only consider big-budget Hollywood films 'films' - every other film doesn't even exist in your world. Your world only consists of those 2-400 films a year that Hollywood puts out, not ALL of the movies put out in total... That's doing a great disservice to the film-makers, writers, actors and crews out there around the world (who do a far, far better job, dollar-for-dollar, than Hollywood does)! And, to clarify for you, they make somewhere between 2 and 5 thousand films a year - in Canada alone! The Toronto Film Festival gets something like 5-800 applications each year from just Canadian indie films (and only a tiny fraction of films will get submitted). Vancouver gets another 4 or 500. Consider that the US is ten times the size (as well as Europe, Australia and Asia - we'll even exclude Bollywood just to even things out), and my numbers are probably quite conservative actually. There's likely well over 1 or 200,000 English language films made each year. But, as I said, those other 199,800 don't matter to you, so they might as well not exist... Cheers, Bob - Original Message - From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? What is low budget depends on who you talk to. $10-20 million is moderately low. For a studio level film, it's positively tiny. Even for a lot of small companies, it's considered low budget. I've dealt with companies that if a film isn't over $10 million, they won't consider distributing it because it's way too low. (An average studio film is over $65 million, for comparison. So, no, $10-20 is not ridiculously high. Except in the absolute sense of why should they cost so much. But the fact is that they do.) But for people not at the studio level, $10 million is toward the high end. $2-3 million is about the range for most independent low budget films. Ones that actually have a likelihood of making a deal for distribution. Absolutely there are films made for less. $400,000-$1,000,000 is the range for low budget TV movies, such as those that air on Sci Fi Channel (and then get sold on DVD or get some theatrical distribution in Europe). And there are films made for a lot less. But those rarely are of a quality -- in terms of acting, lighting, sound, etc. -- to get any sort of distribution. Also, I doubt very strongly that there are 50,000+ English language movies are made every year. I doubt there are that many in all languages made in a given year. Unless you're including shorts and internet videos and student films, etc. Craig. At 05:09 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: What on Earth are you guys talking about?!? You're talking about 'low budget' as if $10 or 20 million was LOW! That's not a low budget, that's a ridiculously high, Hollywood budget! A million or less is a low budget. A hundred thousand or less is a shoe-string budget. Here's a clue: if there are major stars in it and a full union cast and crew, it's not 'low budget!' Probably 50,000+ English language movies are made every year, and far
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
That's production PLUS marketing. I was speaking of just production costs (as were the previous messages). Craig. At 06:25 PM 7/22/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: Avg. Major Studio Film Budget increases by 6.3% in 2007 to $106.6 Million. http://www.romow.com/entertainment-blog/average-hollywood-movie-now- costs-over-106-million/ Patrick On Jul 22, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Craig Miller wrote: What is low budget depends on who you talk to. $10-20 million is moderately low. For a studio level film, it's positively tiny. Even for a lot of small companies, it's considered low budget. I've dealt with companies that if a film isn't over $10 million, they won't consider distributing it because it's way too low. (An average studio film is over $65 million, for comparison. So, no, $10-20 is not ridiculously high. Except in the absolute sense of why should they cost so much. But the fact is that they do.) But for people not at the studio level, $10 million is toward the high end. $2-3 million is about the range for most independent low budget films. Ones that actually have a likelihood of making a deal for distribution. Absolutely there are films made for less. $400,000-$1,000,000 is the range for low budget TV movies, such as those that air on Sci Fi Channel (and then get sold on DVD or get some theatrical distribution in Europe). And there are films made for a lot less. But those rarely are of a quality -- in terms of acting, lighting, sound, etc. -- to get any sort of distribution. Also, I doubt very strongly that there are 50,000+ English language movies are made every year. I doubt there are that many in all languages made in a given year. Unless you're including shorts and internet videos and student films, etc. Craig. At 05:09 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: What on Earth are you guys talking about?!? You're talking about 'low budget' as if $10 or 20 million was LOW! That's not a low budget, that's a ridiculously high, Hollywood budget! A million or less is a low budget. A hundred thousand or less is a shoe- string budget. Here's a clue: if there are major stars in it and a full union cast and crew, it's not 'low budget!' Probably 50,000 + English language movies are made every year, and far less than 1% of those have a budget over 5 or 10 million... Cheers, Bob Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
IMDB is a wonderful website. It's invaluable. But they don't only list feature films. They list TV episodes (actually series, but with listings for each episode). And they list short films. One minute. Two minutes. Ten minutes. Twenty minutes in length. I'm discussing feature films. If you include everything, of all lengths, designed for any and all mediums, than yes, your number isn't some wild ass guess with no basis in fact. It's still a guess but it's closer to reality. If you're talking about actual feature length films made with at least the hope of a theatrical release, then your number is way way way off. Even if we accept the IMDB number as being accurate, and double it for the rest of the year, it's only half the number you first gave and only an eighth of the number you later increased it to. But, of course, we can't really accept the IMDB number because it isn't only feature films. And while this film you give as an example might be feature length -- I'll take your word for it, since what's on YouTube is just 10 minutes long -- it's also apparently soft-core porn, which can be made very very cheaply. The acting, from the couple minutes I watched, is hardly top quality; the lighting and camera work also leaves a good deal to be desired. For a Troma direct-to-DVD, it's fine, but it isn't theatrical quality. And I'm guessing I must have missed the parts that qualify it as being much better than what comes out of the studios. Oh, and if you want to throw credits back and forth, I've worked on major studio films and independent films. I've been a guest speaker at film festivals and distribution markets in the US, the UK, France, Italy, and the Screen Producers Association of Australia (an organization of independent film producers) just asked me to come speak at their conference in November. (I've even been on panels with Lloyd Kaufman.) I've worked with George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, Jim Henson, Tom Hanks, John Boorman, Christopher Lee, Edward Woodward, Ken Russell, Anthony Shaffer, Robin Hardy, Richard Lester, Richard Donner, Howard Gottfried, Danny Melnick, Frank Oz, Frank Marshall, Luigi Cingolani, John Carpenter, Oliver Stone, Ed Pressman, etc. etc. etc. So I do know what I'm talking about. Craig. At 08:42 PM 7/22/2008, Robert D. Brooks wrote: So, if $20 million is a 'low budget,' this is what I did with about 1/8th of 1% of that amount (meaning I would have to make this movie almost 1,000 times - just to have a budget high enough to be considered 'low')... Although, I'll warn anyone that dares click: NSFW (it is a Troma-film after all, so don't come crying to me if...)! ;o) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMoKB9Zk0E Cheers, Bob PS. Note to Craig: You may just notice a couple names in the credits there: one is currently the chairman of the Independent Film and TV Alliance and the other is the head of the oldest independent film studio in existence, so while I may not have your 30 years in the business (only about 20 here), understand that I do know what I'm talking about! And, just to prove I'm right: http://www.imdb.com/List?year=2008 You'll notice that there are about 12,000 movies listed there - just from the last 6 months (and they only list a fraction of all the movies made - very few student films, foreign films, ultra-low-budget films, etc...). I guess I should be expecting an apology?... - Original Message - From: Craig Miller To: Robert D. Brooks Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? You're missing the point. You're wrong about the number of movies made. Your numbers all seem to be wild guesses and you haven't specified if you're talking about feature length films or including all lengths and formats. I can only believe you're doing the latter because your numbers are just way, way off for the former. (And what makes you think each film festival gets applications for a completely different group of films? Sundance requires it hasn't been shown anywhere else before them but most festivals have no such rule. And they don't say films can't play other festivals after them.) Please don't insult us by suggesting that only you are so smart as to know about films not made by the Hollywood studios or that we don't know about low budget films. I assure you, that isn't the case. And if you think the super low budget filmmakers all make wonderful movies, you clearly haven't seen a significant enough percentage of them. A large percentage of the indies are godawful. As are the majority of studio pictures. But they don't suddenly become good because they're made with low low budgets. I've been in this business over 30 years now and I've worked with and seen pictures at all different budget levels. The budget -- high or low -- isn't what makes them good. Craig. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site
Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget?
As someone who's primarily a writer these days, you won't get me to diminish the role of writers in making films. But, alas, it is a director's medium -- if in only that the studios tend to defer to the director. The budgets are set by the companies and the director -- no matter how big or small or independent the company. They say how much they'll spend, the director argues for how much he needs. And they'll tell the writer to make changes if what he's written doesn't work with the budget. (Of course, to a great extent, you can shoot most anything on most any budget. How good the locations will look -- does it look like Hawaii or Descanso Gardens? -- or how good the effects are or how good the actors are (not that you can't find good actors who don't charge a lot) will vary, but you can shoot the script for the budget you have. I've been told on very low budget projects that the company can't take a picture that's under $10 million. I tell them we can make it for $10 million. No problem. It was designed for $5 million but we can spend more, hire bigger name actors, pay ourselves more, do fancier effects, go on location rather than the backlot, etc. But they want you to come in with their budget range already on paper. They don't like the idea that you can change the film expenses to match the budget... Craig. At 09:21 PM 7/22/2008, Alan Adler wrote: Just want to add this note from another perspective. All this director talk... It's the writer that sets the budget - You write big, you write small - The director interprets, but he sure ain't the be all and end of making a picture what it is! Alan On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:42 PM, Robert D. Brooks wrote: So, if $20 million is a 'low budget,' this is what I did with about 1/8th of 1% of that amount (meaning I would have to make this movie almost 1,000 times - just to have a budget high enough to be considered 'low')... Although, I'll warn anyone that dares click: NSFW (it is a Troma-film after all, so don't come crying to me if...)! ;o) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMoKB9Zk0E Cheers, Bob PS. Note to Craig: You may just notice a couple names in the credits there: one is currently the chairman of the Independent Film and TV Alliance and the other is the head of the oldest independent film studio in existence, so while I may not have your 30 years in the business (only about 20 here), understand that I do know what I'm talking about! And, just to prove I'm right: http://www.imdb.com/List?year=2008 You'll notice that there are about 12,000 movies listed there - just from the last 6 months (and they only list a fraction of all the movies made - very few student films, foreign films, ultra-low- budget films, etc...). I guess I should be expecting an apology?... - Original Message - From: Craig Miller To: Robert D. Brooks Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can a major director shoot an epic on a low budget? You're missing the point. You're wrong about the number of movies made. Your numbers all seem to be wild guesses and you haven't specified if you're talking about feature length films or including all lengths and formats. I can only believe you're doing the latter because your numbers are just way, way off for the former. (And what makes you think each film festival gets applications for a completely different group of films? Sundance requires it hasn't been shown anywhere else before them but most festivals have no such rule. And they don't say films can't play other festivals after them.) Please don't insult us by suggesting that only you are so smart as to know about films not made by the Hollywood studios or that we don't know about low budget films. I assure you, that isn't the case. And if you think the super low budget filmmakers all make wonderful movies, you clearly haven't seen a significant enough percentage of them. A large percentage of the indies are godawful. As are the majority of studio pictures. But they don't suddenly become good because they're made with low low budgets. I've been in this business over 30 years now and I've worked with and seen pictures at all different budget levels. The budget -- high or low -- isn't what makes them good. Craig. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. LINK TO AMAZON JUST PUBLISHED FIRST NOVEL: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0595458203 MUSEUM WEBSITE: www.museumofmomandpopculture.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Which tells me that should be the price including a buyer's premium, and if I'm buying from a seller that doesn't require a buyer's premium, I should be paying less. I certainly shouldn't be paying that sale price plus buyer's premium PLUS another buyer's premium on top of it. Otherwise, it's simply an artificial way for dealers to inch up the price. Because it sold for the hammer price. A Buyer's Premium -- or, in normal business parlance, a commission -- was added to that price after the auction. Craig. At 04:25 PM 7/16/2008, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: I would agree with Sean on this. When someone calls me and asks what a Creature from the Black Lagoon one sheet will bring, I will look at our archive and say, Here is what we have gotten for this item.. I would explain that the figure does include a Buyer's Premium, but that that is the going price in today's market. The Hammer price plus the Buyer's Premium is what the piece sold for and is thus, what the market should bring for the item. I have great respect for Rudy and his opinion, but I would always appraise value by what it brought in auction with the BP. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:12 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. Whats the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc I would argue you cant count taxes and shipping, as they are costs that not every purchaser pays, but everyone pays the buyers premium. Im actually totally in shock at Rudys answer and hes the first appraiser Ive ever heard suggest such a thing. I was an appraiser for ASA, have done many more for insurance companies, estates, etc and never have heard of any other appraiser using the hammer price they look at the final sales price including premium. If anyone here on their insurance policy lists the hammer price as the value and not the full price with buyers premium (or if anyone lists what the sellers net received was) Id like to hear about it, as youd be the first I know of to do such a thing. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
At 04:11 PM 7/16/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. What's the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc What the owners pay brokers is no more a reduction of the value of the house than what the buyers pay as BP to the auction house. Different brokers/realtors charge different commissions; a sale by owner has no commission. Some auctioneers charge different amounts of BP. A direct sale charges none. Bruce H. charges none. It's a variable cost-of-doing-business. It isn't part of the value of the poster or house. This is Economics 101. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruces question of whether or not it matters if the buyers premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now Im thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyers premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why its only $600, but there is a 5000% buyers premium. Thats a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyers premium of course). Yeah, theyre only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but Im in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
At 11:07 AM 7/16/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this makes no sense the car you describe depreciates the moment you sign to buy it from the dealer and drive away (I am not referring to collectible antique cars because you named the specific car) a poster bought privately may appreciate the moment you buy it if you buy it at a right price and sell it immediately to a collector who wants it you are comparing apples with airplanes No, I'm talking economics. Let's do my example again with a house. A house, like a poster, might appreciate or depreciate. But the economics are the same. You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? See, apples and apples. Something that could appreciate or depreciate. Sales tax is not part of the value. The home warranty is not part of the value. Money you might have paid a home inspector to check out the house is not part of the value. It's part of what you spent but it isn't part of the value. This is basic economics. There's a difference between cost and value. You might project a future increase in value that will bring it up above your cost; you may feel the pleasure you get from looking at your poster or living in your house is worth the extra cost, but it doesn't increase the current value. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Sue: I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do. People are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy, that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as to want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not, but it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all see it differently. And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch. Craig. At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote: I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a marriage you have to take the good with the bad. Sue http://www.hollywoodposterframes.comwww.hollywoodposterframes.com P.S..My post I started..O.Kwhere do you stand? about the buyer's premium was the most action I've had in months!! - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Claude Litton To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
At 05:31 PM 7/13/2008, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote: I agree with Rich. Just looking at my Heritage invoice and I'm really only interested in the total amunt I have to pay which includes the buyers premium. As far as I'm concerned thats what I paid for the poster/s. That is, indeed, what you paid. That isn't the value of the poster, as defined as what it sells/sold for. The price of a hamburger at a restaurant is $8. There's sales tax and a tip to the waiter on top of that. But the hamburger still costs $8, no matter that you paid more than that in total. You're confusing value with total paid. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] apprraisal/BP response from rudy franchi
At 10:53 PM 7/13/2008, Jeff Potokar wrote: hello mopo, in lieu of this whole thread which started on saturday, I decided to write to rudy franchi, an appraiser and poster expert at Heritage. i am sure most of you know his background. he sent me a reply to the appraisal/ BP add on question that i have been discussing here. his response echoes my thoughts expressed. he asked me to post both my original email to him and his response as he was having trouble getting messages posted: jeff my email to him: hi rudy, jeff potokar here. i had a general question that i wanted to run by you with regard to a poster's appraised value and the price that can be quite a bit different (elevated) if a poster is sold thru an auction house. my basic question is this: as an example, let us say a higher end poster has been appraised by you and valued at $10,000.00. this poster is consigned to an auction house where a 19.5% buyer's premium will be added and paid for by the winning bidder. the question is: does this additional 1950.00 that has been charged to the buyer -- the BP--, suddenly become added to the appraised value, so that literally the poster is now almost a 12,000.00 poster? or is the appraised value still the $10K that the poster had just before the auction? the BP is like a fee, or auction commission, isnt it? it is how the auction house makes money, but it doesnt boost a poster's appraises value, does it? thanks much, rudy. best. jeff potokar his reply to me: Jeff, can you post your question and my reply to MOPO? I'm having trouble getting my messages posted. Thanks, rudy The appraisal price is the hammer price. Appraisals are based on comps, comparative prices for the same item in previous transactions. There have not always been buyer's premiums, not all auctions charge buyer's premiums and when they do, not all auctions charge the same buyer's premium. So that appraisers can compare consistently, we deal with the hammer price. Also, should the buyer then add on the sales tax when it is charged? Should he add on the shipping? Should he add on the cost of the cab he took to the auction or the lunch he had during the break? That way lies chaos. The hammer price is the agreed standard for the value of an item. rudy franchi I always knew Rudy was a wise man. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
At 04:51 AM 7/13/2008, Roland Lataille wrote: I just won a one sheet Cinerama roadshow Circus World poster from Heritage for $60 plus $11.70 for BP. I would say I paid $71.70 for it. I think I got a pretty good deal as I was willing to pay a lot more for it. You don't see this Cinerama roadshow poster on Ebay very often. Seems to me there's a difference between the sales price (i.e. what the poster sold for) and the cost of acquiring it. If I buy a poster -- or anything -- from someone in person (or from someone from whom I can pick it up) there is no shipping fee. That doesn't mean the item sold for less. It means there were no added fees. While a Buyer's Premium is something I would have to pay if I bought a poster through an auction house, it is a fee that I need to be willing to pay but isn't truly part of the poster's price, no more than sales tax, or money later spent to fix up, linenback, or frame a poster. Those may be part of what I need or want to spend on the poster, but they aren't part of the price. Frankly, saying it is sounds more like dealers trying to find ways to push up the price of a poster. It sold for $1000 plus a 20% BP, so the real price is $1200. Next time, someone should pay $1150 plus a BP of 15% so the value will be $1440. It's a fee on a fee on a fee that people are using to artificially inflate the value. It is, I'll concede, more accurate to say the *cost* of the poster was the auction price plus all other expenses incurred. But that doesn't make it the value of the poster. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
Cost to Own does not equal Value or even Price. Cost to Own is the Price plus additional expenses entailed in acquiring it. How much you spent isn't the same thing as how much the item sold for. If you bought something for the auction price of $1,000 but you had a $200 credit with the auctioneer, you can write a check for $800. Does that mean the price is $800 or $1000? To get rid of other spurious elements, it isn't a credit based on a transaction but based on a gift (a la a gift card at a store) or winning a contest. So you're actually only spending $800. Does that mean the value of the poster has just gone down? The value is the sales price. Buyers Premiums are the cost of doing business with that seller. (If you bought the item in, say, Las Vegas or Portland, Oregon, where there's no sales tax, does that mean the value of the poster is less than if you bought it in Los Angeles or New York where there is? The sales tax is not part of the valuation of the poster, just as the BP is not. That you have to pay it is separate from the value of the item.) Craig. At 03:49 PM 7/13/2008, Dale Dilts wrote: For the married folks out there. If you bid out a poster at 1000.00, but the checking account is missing 1200, is your spouse going to think you paid 1000 or 1200 :) Paid = cost to own, has nothing to do with being a dealer or a collector. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:23 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? Funny, but when I pay for that poster it seems like that was the price to me. Lock, stock and barrel. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, martin s wrote: FINALLY, someone who gets it! Thanks Craig, that's it exactly... The sales price of the poster is the $ amount when the auctioneer says SOLD. Everything added after that is a fee, tax, or shipping charge. As you said, it breaks down into collectors and dealers. Dealers need to roll all of those extra expenses into the total price paid, however, that is NOT the price that the poster SOLD for. If I paid 10K for a poster, 2k for BP, 825. for tax, and 100. for shipping, My total paid is $12,925, but the sale price of the poster is still 10K. Everything else is fees, taxes and other charges. Best wishes, M Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:03:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU At 04:51 AM 7/13/2008, Roland Lataille wrote: I just won a one sheet Cinerama roadshow Circus World poster from Heritage for $60 plus $11.70 for BP. I would say I paid $71.70 for it. I think I got a pretty good deal as I was willing to pay a lot more for it. You don't see this Cinerama roadshow poster on Ebay very often. Seems to me there's a difference between the sales price (i.e. what the poster sold for) and the cost of acquiring it. If I buy a poster -- or anything -- from someone in person (or from someone from whom I can pick it up) there is no shipping fee. That doesn't mean the item sold for less. It means there were no added fees. While a Buyer's Premium is something I would have to pay if I bought a poster through an auction house, it is a fee that I need to be willing to pay but isn't truly part of the poster's price, no more than sales tax, or money later spent to fix up, linenback, or frame a poster. Those may be part of what I need or want to spend on the poster, but they aren't part of the price. Frankly, saying it is sounds more like dealers trying to find ways to push up the price of a poster. It sold for $1000 plus a 20% BP, so the real price is $1200. Next time, someone should pay $1150 plus a BP of 15% so the value will be $1440. It's a fee on a fee on a fee that people are using to artificially inflate the value. It is, I'll concede, more accurate to say the *cost* of the poster was the auction price plus all other expenses incurred. But that doesn't make it the value of the poster. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The i'm Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
It's what you spent but it wasn't just the price of the poster. There was also a commission charged by the seller. And taxes. And maybe shipping. And if you're planning to resell it -- or if you put it up in your please of business as office decoration, there's a deduction you take on your taxes. You don't deduct that from the amount when you declare the cost, I assume. But you should if you were calculating the true cost to you, which is not the same as the price. Craig. At 03:23 PM 7/13/2008, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Funny, but when I pay for that poster it seems like that was the price to me. Lock, stock and barrel. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, martin s wrote: FINALLY, someone who gets it! Thanks Craig, that's it exactly... The sales price of the poster is the $ amount when the auctioneer says SOLD. Everything added after that is a fee, tax, or shipping charge. As you said, it breaks down into collectors and dealers. Dealers need to roll all of those extra expenses into the total price paid, however, that is NOT the price that the poster SOLD for. If I paid 10K for a poster, 2k for BP, 825. for tax, and 100. for shipping, My total paid is $12,925, but the sale price of the poster is still 10K. Everything else is fees, taxes and other charges. Best wishes, M Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:03:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU At 04:51 AM 7/13/2008, Roland Lataille wrote: I just won a one sheet Cinerama roadshow Circus World poster from Heritage for $60 plus $11.70 for BP. I would say I paid $71.70 for it. I think I got a pretty good deal as I was willing to pay a lot more for it. You don't see this Cinerama roadshow poster on Ebay very often. Seems to me there's a difference between the sales price (i.e. what the poster sold for) and the cost of acquiring it. If I buy a poster -- or anything -- from someone in person (or from someone from whom I can pick it up) there is no shipping fee. That doesn't mean the item sold for less. It means there were no added fees. While a Buyer's Premium is something I would have to pay if I bought a poster through an auction house, it is a fee that I need to be willing to pay but isn't truly part of the poster's price, no more than sales tax, or money later spent to fix up, linenback, or frame a poster. Those may be part of what I need or want to spend on the poster, but they aren't part of the price. Frankly, saying it is sounds more like dealers trying to find ways to push up the price of a poster. It sold for $1000 plus a 20% BP, so the real price is $1200. Next time, someone should pay $1150 plus a BP of 15% so the value will be $1440. It's a fee on a fee on a fee that people are using to artificially inflate the value. It is, I'll concede, more accurate to say the *cost* of the poster was the auction price plus all other expenses incurred. But that doesn't make it the value of the poster. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The i'm Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Re: [MOPO] off topic but brilliant
I haven't seen WALL-E yet but I know a little something of the story. Since Short Circuit is basically our super-soldier/brain enhanced monkey/robot has gotten away and we want to get it back, no matter what or who gets hurt and takes place in contemporary society and WALL-E takes place on a desolate, unpopulated Earth, it seems unlikely that one is a copy of the other, let alone a dead copy. Not impossible, but on the surface unlikely. Craig. At 12:08 AM 7/10/2008, Michael Wong wrote: Hi All, I know it's not just me. Wall-E is a dead copy of Number 5 from Short Circuit (1973?). I saw the filmmaker and clips at Wondercon SF and someone asked him about the similarity to Short Circuit. He claimed ignorance of the other film, not surprising since he said he was trying to evoke the great science fiction films of the past (his youth), i.e. Blade Runner, 2001, Star Wars, etc. Michael, Cinecityposters /HTML Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Greatest Sky-Fi
At 11:01 PM 6/12/2008, Roger Kim wrote: Did any of you cable subscribers watch MPC Salutes the Greatest Science Fiction Films of All Time? I didn't think much of the list they came up with. They managed to ignore the entire Star Trek franchise. Very rude. And why did they pick that Tom Martin guy to host the program? He was like Robin Williams on speed. Next time, I hope they pick someone more like Alistair Cooke. For those who missed it, here are the winners: 1) 2001: A Space Odyssey 2) Solaris (1972) 3) Blade Runner (1982) 4) Metropolis 5) Star Wars (1977) 6) Silent Running 7) Fahrenheit 451 8) Fantastic Planet 9) Colossus: The Forbin Project 10) War of the Worlds (1953) Not sure what MPC is. And that's certainly an odd list. I can quibble with a couple of these but some of them are definitely not in the top ten of Greatest Science Fiction Films of All Time. 2, 8, and 9 in particular. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Feedback Quirk No Make That Jerk
a determination that hopefully is close, I shoot for within ten dollars and feel lucky to be within that range. However once I sold a miniature prop one of a city street at Warner Brothers for SUPERMAN.I was $80 off due to the newly enacted dimensional weight and fuel surcharge assessment. I emailed buyer and asked upon the safe delivery of prop, would he be willing to split the difference explaining why so far off on estimate as miniature was only slightly heavy, more unyieldly than anything but when I set about packing it well to arrive in perfect condition,( a near two hour undertaking,) it turned out to be a carton almost 5 feet long and about 16 X 16 deep. I charged $55 for ground and it came to a shocking $135 with insurance. In no uncertain terms a flat screw you was the answer. The extra care in packing to arrive safely 2000 miles away was met with zip concern or understanding. This same person purchased another item later which I had not connected to the months earlier purchase. Whatever the prop or costume was I charged $25 shipping and it came to $21. Upon its delivery he demanded a $4 refund on shipping when he viewed the shipping fee sticker. That's when I noticed his email which rang familiar. I emailed back that I would be pleased to refund but I reminded him that when I asked for a similar request months earlier regarding the SUPERMAN miniature he was less than fair. I received back an email that went something like f*ck you If I am not sent by Paypal $4 in 24 hours you will receive a negative. Believe me his user ID is now blocked. It has also made me much more careful about setting shipping rates. But how frequently I get emails regarding my supposed high costs and I have to answer by sharing past experience and promising if over will refundevery question every time. And still with fuel sky rocketing I am off more frequently than I prefer. But its rare if more than $20 and I eat the loss. But its the lack of understanding by some buyers that catches one off guard. The first to bellyache at overcharge but under charge and its the bird. The issue here is it takes so little effort to play nice. freeman -- Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102City's Best 2008. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Cinerama In Your Living Room
Thought some of you might be interested in this story from Studio Briefing. Craig. Cinerama In Your Living Room Warner Bros. plans to make home theaters look much like theaters did a half century ago with the release of the classic How the West Was Won, starring John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda, on Blu-ray disc in August. The high-definition video will offer a SmileBox version -- essentially making the screen look as if it were curved like an old Cinerama screen. Only a handful of features were made in the Cinerama process, which featured a screen so large that it wrapped around the audience's field of vision, producing a 3D effect. The screen was so large that it took three projectors to fill it -- one projecting onto the left third of the screen, another the middle, and another the right. Likewise, the movies were shot with a special camera that shot the three images simultaneously. While nature documentaries and thrill-ride experiences were initially released in the Cinerama process, 1962's How the West was Won was the first feature film to be filmed and projected in the process. Warner Home Video's Blu-ray release will also include the documentary Cinerama Adventure. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Excellent comparison: Hollywood Blacklist and Gun Deaths
] Excellent comparison: Hollywood Blacklist and Gun Deaths Yes, it takes a brave man to ambush an elderly gentleman in the early stages of Alzheimer's. That may be his legacy to you, but fortunately it won't be to a majority of the world. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rodxmorgan Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:32 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Excellent comparison: Hollywood Blacklist and Gun Deaths http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/04/21/weekinreview/20070422_MARSH_GRA PHIC.html 2004: almost 100,000 people killed or injured by guns, in just one year! Sounds like a runaway epidemic to me---promoted largely by the gun- lobby profiteers NRA. Heston's legacy: running like a squirmy dog from Michael Moore's interview. The image is indelibly etched into our collective film consciousness. video.google.com/videoplay?docid=379436543310263692 --- Bill Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow - take a position in the land of the free that doesn't keep step with the vocal left! I guess the liberals are just in favor of censorship - or at least its okay to shut people up who don't believe what they believe. but then why the big outcry againt the hollywood black list - what's good for the goose... -Original Message- CALLOWAY: He was about the worst NRA-whore who ever made a dirty living in this city. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Would anyone seriously pay this much for Tom Cruise?
I love the fact that it's the one and only copy but they actually produced and sold an unknown number and he'd be surprised if there were any left around and certainly not as nice and framed as his. Either it's the only one or its not. And from what the seller says in his own ad, it's not. Craig. At 11:45 AM 3/26/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-RAREST-TOM-CRUISE-POSTER-IN-THE-WORLD_W0QQitemZ220214766743QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/THE-RAREST-TOM-CRUISE-POSTER-IN-THE-WORLD_W0QQitemZ220214766743QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY
to when you mentioned Beta which is the same as Betamax) had no relation to Betamax other than using the same sized tape width and cassette shell. Betacam's true parent was U-Matic, with which it shared a great many more similarities than it ever did to Betamax. At 30 minutes per cassette, Betacam was used almost entirely in electronic new gathering and was never intended to be used by consumers, nor ever marketed to them. It had nothing to do with the studio's wishes - everybody knew that the public would have absolutely no use for a 30-minute format no matter how good the quality. I could go on, but I suspect I've already lost almost everybody to boredom by now, and besides this is a movie poster list, not a history of home video technology list. Colin (who never represented any studios during this period but has a better memory and a big stack of Video magazines) On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Craig Miller wrote: It wasn't that Sony wouldn't license the technology. They wouldn't, at first, but then they made it expensive, so few others were willing to pay for the privilege of making the machines. It kept the cost of Betamax format machines high; much higher than for VHS equipment. Licensing of the technology was but one reason Betamax failed. In some ways a more important factor is that Betamax was a superior recording format. That superiority was a problem for the studios. Worried about piracy, commercial video tape producers used Copyguard to prevent tapes from being duplicated. This process, in essence, recorded a very bright light in the spaces between frames (there aren't actually frames on video tape the way we think of them on film but there were effective frames, to more or less match the original). VHS, being an inferior format, was completely flummoxed by this area of bright light. VHS machines were unable to deal with it and it overbalanced the images that you wanted to see (the images from the movie). It made for an almost unwatchable viewing experience. Betamax, on the other hand, was quite capable of recording those bright lights and not interfering with the main image. So studios aggressively supported VHS and worked to get rid of Betamax as a format. They more heavily produced VHS copies, gave preferential pricing on VHS, etc. It was the combination of expensive equipment (because Sony wouldn't license out the technology) and the studios supporting the other format that doomed Betamax. (It should also be noted that Beta, the commercial format used by TV crews continued to be used for many, many years. It was a variant of Betamax and because it was superior -- it kept the color components separate, for example, for better balancing and mixing -- the studios and networks wanted it. They just didn't want the public to have it.) Craig. Who represented several studios during this period. At 12:46 PM 3/1/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: Exactly, Doug, and that's why they allow licensing of the format unlike the proprietary ownership they held with the Betamax format. No one made Betamax but Sony. VHS was inferior to Betamax but available for any manufacturer to make. Ipods from Apple are a glaring exception...for every rule, there is an exception...or two. Patrick On Mar 1, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Doug Taylor wrote: Profile MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20080219/47ba6250_3ca6_15526200802191110856345 - Original Message - Franc MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:42 PM Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY i want to buy a DVD recorder. my first. they are cheaper than 100.00 BUT the Blue Ray technology is closer to 700.00 since i would be recording primarily the classics of the 40s and 50s off TMC channel etc.. is the extra blue technology worth it of course, i really do want that HI DEF and GREAT SURROUND when i record the habdful of current stuff. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from
Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY
It wasn't that Sony wouldn't license the technology. They wouldn't, at first, but then they made it expensive, so few others were willing to pay for the privilege of making the machines. It kept the cost of Betamax format machines high; much higher than for VHS equipment. Licensing of the technology was but one reason Betamax failed. In some ways a more important factor is that Betamax was a superior recording format. That superiority was a problem for the studios. Worried about piracy, commercial video tape producers used Copyguard to prevent tapes from being duplicated. This process, in essence, recorded a very bright light in the spaces between frames (there aren't actually frames on video tape the way we think of them on film but there were effective frames, to more or less match the original). VHS, being an inferior format, was completely flummoxed by this area of bright light. VHS machines were unable to deal with it and it overbalanced the images that you wanted to see (the images from the movie). It made for an almost unwatchable viewing experience. Betamax, on the other hand, was quite capable of recording those bright lights and not interfering with the main image. So studios aggressively supported VHS and worked to get rid of Betamax as a format. They more heavily produced VHS copies, gave preferential pricing on VHS, etc. It was the combination of expensive equipment (because Sony wouldn't license out the technology) and the studios supporting the other format that doomed Betamax. (It should also be noted that Beta, the commercial format used by TV crews continued to be used for many, many years. It was a variant of Betamax and because it was superior -- it kept the color components separate, for example, for better balancing and mixing -- the studios and networks wanted it. They just didn't want the public to have it.) Craig. Who represented several studios during this period. At 12:46 PM 3/1/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: Exactly, Doug, and that's why they allow licensing of the format unlike the proprietary ownership they held with the Betamax format. No one made Betamax but Sony. VHS was inferior to Betamax but available for any manufacturer to make. Ipods from Apple are a glaring exception...for every rule, there is an exception...or two. Patrick On Mar 1, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Doug Taylor wrote: Profile MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:06 PM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20080219/47ba6250_3ca6_15526200802191110856345http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20080219/47ba6250_3ca6_15526200802191110856345 - Original Message - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Franc mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:42 PM Re: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY i want to buy a DVD recorder. my first. they are cheaper than 100.00 BUT the Blue Ray technology is closer to 700.00 since i would be recording primarily the classics of the 40s and 50s off TMC channel etc.. is the extra blue technology worth it of course, i really do want that HI DEF and GREAT SURROUND when i record the habdful of current stuff. -- ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
I don't buy a lot but I've never used sniping and I've been able to win items, both on eBay and from Bruce. And not because I'm bidding extra high. I couldn't afford to even if I wanted to. Craig. At 06:28 AM 2/28/2008, Judith Weaver wrote: Franc is probably right. I know that if it weren't for sniping I would NEVER win ANYTHING on Bruce's auctions. Guess my collecting/buying days are at an end. [] [] Judith Weaver 3115 Panama Drive Melbourne, FL 32934 (PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS!!) -- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:51:58 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU FRANC wrote: I think some people are just pissed off because Bruce doesn't play to do things in a manner that they perceive as most advantageous to themselves. Very perceptive, Franc. People tend to think in terms of their own interests. In this case, it is compounded by a natural fear of the unknown. Nobody likes what they have never seen before, and they DO like what is comfortable and familiar. I predict that people will see how good this system is once they give it a try, because they will pay less on some items and get outbid on some items they might have won with sniping, but they will have complete control over both, and that will feel great to them! Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008Get it now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
the auctions remain 100% honest and free of shill bidding of any kind), and I will also be giving more information about how and when the first of these auctions will be; I have lots of plans to make the first of these REALLY excellent, to better show my appreciation to those buyers who participate in my first auctions on my site. But time is short now, and so (as they used to say in the old time serials), return next week to learn more (in other words, to be continued...!). IMPORTANT: If YOU have an opinion on how these new auctions should be run, or on how you feel about my leaving eBay, I want to hear from you NOW! Please e-mail me at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] with any comments you may have (or post them here), and I will be posting the ones I receive in the next e-mail club (and I will leave people's names off, so they can feel free to give their honest opinions! I welcome any sort of constructive comments. NOW is the time to tell me any suggestions you have, because we are now setting up the new auction site, and this is the best time to make any changes or improvements! Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
I'm certain you're honest and believe what you say, but auctions that continue until people stop bidding are unfair? Really? All the millions of auctions have occurred over time in places that aren't eBay have been unfair, because people could bid until they were through? It's only those auctions where there's an arbitrary ending time that are fair? Especially when some of the bidders have access to external bidding software; that makes them really, really fair. Craig. At 01:36 AM 2/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Two penneth Bruce I can understand your feelings about fixed end as opposed to extended end auctions, however fixed end I think is the fairest way. If you are at a live auction the hammer drops no more bidding on that item, same should happen on an internet auction, if you have the standard ebay seven days then instead open it up to ten days but the end is the end. Otherwise how long will an auction go on for. If a bidder loses out then so be it, he didn't bid enough. We all have had regrest when bidding oh I'd have paid an extra $5 or $10 but what if your opponent had bid an extra $100 or $200 would you go that far? Maybe and mybe not. I am sure we have all learned our lessons and had our fingers burned with getting into auction fever, If that is what you wish to encourage Bruce, but my personal opinion is that it is not a fair way to operate. With open ended auctions you could be accused of greed, with such a business operation that you have Bruce, you don't need to be tarred with such a brush as your turnover is exemplarary. The only other point I would make, if you are dispensing with ebay then you are in the position to makes some savings which you can pass on to your customers both sides. This will encourage punters to bid that little extra more. Apart from that I wish you well with starting your own auction site I am sure it will be a success with all the past reputation you have from ebay. Best of luck. Adrian Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscars -SNOOZEABLE
Too bad we don't have hosts like Bob Hope and Johnny Carson anymore. They'd never do a political joke on the Oscars... Craig. At 12:36 PM 2/25/2008, Franc wrote: Jon Stewart is strickly a smart-ass, college humor stand-up comic and not a very funny one at that. He wasn't even capable of abandoning his political satire for the event and frankly, it just wasn't appropriate in this venue. The only thing I liked about the telecast were the clips from previous years' telecasts that helped remind us how wonderful watching the Oscars used to be. Franc Martarella ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
I've ever come to it! Patrick Tupy On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Craig Miller wrote: I'm certain you're honest and believe what you say, but auctions that continue until people stop bidding are unfair? Really? All the millions of auctions have occurred over time in places that aren't eBay have been unfair, because people could bid until they were through? It's only those auctions where there's an arbitrary ending time that are fair? Especially when some of the bidders have access to external bidding software; that makes them really, really fair. Craig. At 01:36 AM 2/25/2008, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Two penneth Bruce I can understand your feelings about fixed end as opposed to extended end auctions, however fixed end I think is the fairest way. If you are at a live auction the hammer drops no more bidding on that item, same should happen on an internet auction, if you have the standard ebay seven days then instead open it up to ten days but the end is the end. Otherwise how long will an auction go on for. If a bidder loses out then so be it, he didn't bid enough. We all have had regrest when bidding oh I'd have paid an extra $5 or $10 but what if your opponent had bid an extra $100 or $200 would you go that far? Maybe and mybe not. I am sure we have all learned our lessons and had our fingers burned with getting into auction fever, If that is what you wish to encourage Bruce, but my personal opinion is that it is not a fair way to operate. With open ended auctions you could be accused of greed, with such a business operation that you have Bruce, you don't need to be tarred with such a brush as your turnover is exemplarary. The only other point I would make, if you are dispensing with ebay then you are in the position to makes some savings which you can pass on to your customers both sides. This will encourage punters to bid that little extra more. Apart from that I wish you well with starting your own auction site I am sure it will be a success with all the past reputation you have from ebay. Best of luck. Adrian Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
I don't want to get into a great debate on this -- and won't -- so let me leave this with a couple quick comments. Because there's a loophole that lets you get away with something, that doesn't mean it's in the spirit of the law. Because you can doesn't mean you should. Sniping is allowable on eBay through a technicality (and the use of external software). It isn't part of the system. And even though an auction under Bruce's system would seemingly not allow for sniping, it will still (it appears) allow for placing your maximum bid and having the computer auto-bid you up to your limit. So you don't have to sit there and watch the end of every auction you're interested in, just as you don't on eBay. Craig. At 04:24 PM 2/25/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: I look at sniping like I look at a last second shot in a basketball game. It doesn't always work, but given the rules, if it goes through and wins the game, fine, THOSE ARE THE RULES. And using your logic, why is sniping on Ebay inherently unfair when you, like anyone else, can post your maximum amount anytime you want to? How is anyone 'sneaking' anything if you've bid higher than they have? Sniping reveals the highest bidder whether it be the first bidder 7 days before or the sniper who bid higher in the final seconds. And if you wanted to bid more, again, applying your logic to the open ended online auction you could and, as I learned many times, SHOULD have bid more in the first place for your maximum bid. Sniping makes no sense in an open-ended auction and that's fine. But don't try to make it sound as if it's more fair because you can just place your maximum bid anytime then maybe you can bid again if it's extended. How is that different than contending that sniping is more fair because you can bid at the beginning THEN snipe at the end as an insurance bid? It's not like sniping is a selective club, it's a strategy no different than some in a Live auction allowing others to bid themselves out before they hop in with a higher bid. If you bid higher than they were willing to bid, their sniping would be ineffective. In the end there are pro's and con's to all sorts of auctions. I've lost bids to snipers, I've sniped and lost and sniped and won. By no means is sniping a sure thing. I've probably won about 60% of the time using a sniping service but only because in the end I bid the highest, often others snipe after me and they win or lose based upon whether they were higher than me. Bottom line, if we all know when the auction ends and we all know we have a chance to place a maximum bid during that time, sniping is an adaptation to different time zones and strategies inherent to online bidders applying their strategies to win an auction. Unless it's LIVE though, there will be obstacles that anyone will need to address to open-ended auctions online. But I'm sure Bruce is up to the task. Patrick On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Craig Miller wrote: I didn't bring up the concept of fair. The original poster talked about how only timed auctions were fair. If you've got a beef with the general concept of applying fair to this discussion, take it up with them. I assume -- and since Bruce said the only major change from eBay is how the auctions end, I think this is correct -- you still post a maximum amount. So you don't have to be there at the end. If you post your maximum, and it's more than the other person/people's, then you get it. As with eBay, the computer bids for you up to the amount it needs to for you to win (or to tap out if the other bidders have higher bids). But you also have the option of being on line, seeing how the bidding is going, and bidding higher, if you choose to. That seems fair to me. Sniping, on the other hand -- no matter how many people use it and like the fact that it allows them to win -- seems inherently unfair, because its whole design and intent is to sneak in bids in the last micro-seconds, to prevent anyone else from getting in. Everyone has different opinions. This is mine. Craig. At 01:28 PM 2/25/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: Jeez, as for 'fair' or 'unfair' an argument could be made for both. First, define Fair. Bruce will have unfixed endings because he feels it is fair, given his needs and it will benefit his bottom line. Who can blame him? This is a business and that is certainly fair. In fact, it's likely that Bruce will work out any 'kinks' so that those participating will feel that it is a fair auction in the long run. Still, the task is not simple. For in an 'in person' Live non fixed ending auction you don't bid your maximimum amount up front, you are there to 'feel' the room, etc. not to mention see the item in person that you are bidding on. And in person Live auctions are not unending but end when someone IN THE ROOM reaches the highest bid for that item. The problem with an online 'auction' is that unless
Re: [MOPO] More about my coming auctions that are NOT on eBay
Claude: I don't resent anyone outbidding me. (Well, I suppose I do, but no more than anyone else who loses an item at auction.) I do resent people who use external software, designed to get around loopholes in the system, and then crow about it, as if they've done a fine and noble thing. Well, you could have... done X or Y or Z. If sniping had been intended, it would have been built into the system. It wasn't and it wasn't. People do it, but that doesn't make it good or wholesome. Not that sniping is in any way illegal or against the rules, but it's akin to the people who say that, since there wasn't a cop around, it was okay they went through the stop sign. No one got hurt... Mind you, I know sniping exists and I know people will use it. If I bid on enough items, or cared enough on a piece, I might use it, but only as self defense. Since there are so many people who think it's okay to use it, sometimes you just have to go along. But I don't think it's in the spirit of fair auctions or good for the hobby. I know many many people -- poster buyers and people into other things -- who've gotten completely turned off of buying from eBay because they hate dealing with snipers. They don't mind being outbid; they hate feeling cheated. Sniping has only a little to do with the highest bidder, of course. The external software for sniping is designed to get in with a bid so close to the end of bidding, it's too late for other bids. Craig. At 04:28 PM 2/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig You seem to resent the fact that other people bid higher than you. What is the difference how close to the ending time I sneak in a bid and beat you. Why didn't you bid much higher to begin with? I have no clue as to how my last second sneak bid will fare when the auction ends. I place my bid as soon as I see the poster and that could mean the same night Bruce posts them. At that point I forget about it. If I win it is because I made a higher bid than you and not because I am a sneak.You must face the reality of bidding. It does not matter when a bid is made. The HIGHEST bidder wins. Claude Litton -- Original message -- From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't bring up the concept of fair. The original poster talked about how only timed auctions were fair. If you've got a beef with the general concept of applying fair to this discussion, take it up with them. I assume -- and since Bruce said the only major change from eBay is how the auctions end, I think this is correct -- you still post a maximum amount. So you don't have to be there at the end. If you post your maximum, and it's more than the other person/people's, then you get it. As with eBay, the computer bids for you up to the amount it needs to for you to win (or to tap out if the other bidders have higher bids). But you also have the option of being on line, seeing how the bidding is g! oing, a nd bidding higher, if you choose to. That seems fair to me. Sniping, on the other hand -- no matter how many people use it and like the fact that it allows them to win -- seems inherently unfair, because its whole design and intent is to sneak in bids in the last micro-seconds, to prevent anyone else from getting in. Everyone has different opinions. This is mine. Craig. At 01:28 PM 2/25/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: Jeez, as for 'fair' or 'unfair' an argument could be made for both. First, define Fair. Bruce will have unfixed endings because he feels it is fair, given his needs and it will benefit his bottom line. Who can blame him? This is a business and that is certainly fair. In fact, it's likely that Bruce will work out any 'kinks' so that those participating will feel that it is a fair auction in the long run. Still, the task is not simple. For in an 'in person' Live non fixed ending auction you don't bid your maximimum amount up front, you are there to 'feel' the room, etc. not to mention see the item in person that you are bidding on. And in person Live auctions are not unending but end when someone IN THE ROOM reaches the highest bid for that item. The problem with an online 'auction' is that unless it is Live not everyone who is bidding or has bid is ! in the room at the same time. Not everyone has the same chance to bid their highest amount by using strategy which is what one does when sniping in an effort to 'win' an auction that you may or cannot be present for. I must add here there Sue Heim says it best when you tell her that you 'won' an auction on Ebay. To quote Sue...Oh, great, congratulations, you won, does that mean you don't have to pay for it? HA! But to say that it's completely fair to continue an auction unending really means that whoever is present online when Bruce has finally had enough and says going, going, gone thinks it's VERY fair and the others either won't know when this moving ending line is about to end
Re: [MOPO] RECOMMENDED: THERE WILL BE BLOOD
I'm way behind on movie watching. You'd think that being on strike would give me lots of time, but since I've been running the Guild's Media Room since the start of the second week of the strike, I seem to have no time at all. (Picket duty would have been easier; shorter hours and I'd be in better shape after walking four hours a day for three months.) Anyway, I'm finally catching up via the screeners I've been sent. Yesterday, we watched Juno and Michael Clayton. Both were excellent. Juno is, I think, one of the very few comedies in the bunch. The writing and the performances were excellent. Similarly, Michael Clayton. Tom Wilkinson is an actor who I think is underrated. He's always excellent and is again here. George Clooney, too, gives a really good performance. And while the ending isn't a surprise, the film works well. Who knows, maybe a chance for more movies today. (I'm soon off to my uncle's 91st birthday party, but it's an event I don't foresee running long.) Craig. At 11:46 AM 2/3/2008, Kirby McDaniel wrote: I loved this movie and found it enormously entertaining. Daniel Day Lewis was great as was Paul Dano. I have not been such a huge fan of P.T. Anderson's films - I find his ideas for films more interesting than the films themselves - but I think this is his best film. Great cinematography and a great score and use of incidental music. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] How long have you had your eBay ID? A cool prize to the 'oldest' here!
I don't really remember when I first signed on to eBay. It seems like I've been buying things there forever, although I'm sure it's been less time than for most of you. Is there someplace on the eBay site where it can be looked up? Craig. At 07:23 PM 12/11/2007, Bruce Hershenson wrote: On March 9th, 2008, I will have the 10th anniversary of my eBay ID, http://emovieposter.comemovieposter.com. I plan on having some kind of celebration (I don't know that too many PowerSellers make it to 10 years) and giving some great prizes to my 29,000+ customers. That got me thinking. Who among us here on MoPo has had their eBay ID (the one they bid with OR sell with) the longest? I will give whoever posts on this thread with the oldest eBay ID (by one week from now) a free set of all 27 of my in-print full-color movie poster books (a $529.96 retail value), AND I will give at another set to one person who posts their anniversary date here (no matter how new or old). I will draw that person at random, and if lots of people reply to this thread with their anniversary dates, I will give SEVERAL sets! These sets of books are great for anyone who likes old movies, but even if you don't, you can put them on eBay and sell them yourself, or you can give them away as stocking stuffers, or whatever. Why am I doing this? Just tonight I sold enough ($152,000+) to make 2007 my record selling year ever, and I thought I would share my joy with some of you here! Just put down your eBay ID and the date (month, day, and year) your ID was first registered with eBay (no use trying to fib, since it is easily checked) and post it to MoPo. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] How long have you had your eBay ID? A cool prize to the 'oldest' here!
With help from Andrea, who pointed me through the route to eBay information, I found it. March 2, 1997 Maybe I'm not such an eBay newbie afterall. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Need information
Well, back in the '70s and '80s, when I was a publicity and marketing consultant to Warners, Disney, Universal, Columbia, Fox, etc., we just called them captions. Sometimes they were printed onto the front of the still, other times they were slips of paper glued or taped on. But we never had an official name for the slips of paper. Maybe the photo houses who prepared them did but the publicity departments didn't. Craig. At 04:10 AM 11/18/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What is the correct term for the piece of paper (with all of the publicity information and photo description) that is affixed to the reverse of a vintage movie still? I tend to call it a publicity blurb -which I know is not the official name...I have heard it called a snipe.but in the business, so to speak, what is it really known as? Thanks, Diana ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Question for poster dealers in the group....and one for everyone.....
At 03:25 PM 10/3/2007, Richard Auras wrote: Hi Folks, This something I was wondering within the group of dealers here: 1. Do any of you sell/deal in anything other than movie related items? (I myself am a multi-collector since age 5 and deal in comic books, US Stamps, books dealing with humor such as newspaper cartoons, comic strips, editorial cartoons. Also sports cards, non-sports cards and a small amount of vintage toys. Not a dealer so this doesn't apply to me. 2. Does anyone on the list collect anything other than movie related items? (I don't need to make a list because I collect the same type items I sell - see list above... :-) I know someone on the list once mentioned collecting Esso statues and that is something I would like to start doing too once I have enough space to display them. I collect animation art, toy robots, pop-up books, stuffed/plush animals, and items relating to red/lesser pandas. My wife also collects teapots and items relating to otters. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OFF TOPIC -- 3:10 to Yuma
At 05:42 PM 9/13/2007, channinglylethomson wrote: I saw the film yesterday and can say it's one of the really great Westerns. I think it has a superb script, excellent performances, beautiful production values. It's the kind of film that some might call old-fashioned. It reminds those of us with taste of hat we've been missing in a lot of the scripts that have come out of Hollywood in the last 25 years. As 75% or so of the script is virtually identical to the 1957 version, it's no wonder you felt the old fashioned flavor. Even most of the best dialogue comes straight out of the original script. (The writer of the original, Halsted Welles, has screenplay credit on this, not a based on credit. Frankly, it seemed to me that if Michael Brandt and Derek Haas, the new writers, hadn't added the whole short cut/Indians/Chinese section, they might not have qualified for screen credit themselves.) Overall, I liked the film quite a bit. Great acting. But I'd have preferred a slightly different ending. (Don't want to say anything that would spoil it for those who haven't had a chance to see it yet.) Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] STAR WARS Poster Question CAN SOMEONE IDENTIFY THIS POSTER???
At 12:19 PM 8/28/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Everyone, I just came across a poster that I've had rolled in a tube with a lot of other posters for the past 12 to 15 years. It is a rolled US poster, measuring approx 20 x 28. It has artwork similar, but I don't believe the same as the US Style A Star Wars one sheet. Its artwork is signed by Hildebrandt. The only writing on the poster are the words STAR WARS, written in letters outlined in white against a black background near bottom of poster. Along the bottom right is printed c TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX FILM CORP.---Along the left bottom of the poster is printed FACTORS, ETC,INC., BEAR, DEL. U.S.A. IMAGE FACTORY INC, HOLLYWOOD, CALIF. I'm sure it's not a reproduction. I was wondering if some Star Wars expert out there might be able to give me some insight as to what I have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Factors, Etc. was the licensee for posters, tee-shirts, buttons, keychains, and similar items during the first few years of Star Wars merchandising. It's likely an original but of a commercially available poster. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A quick question: Who here does NOT sell ANY movie paper?
I've sold a handful of items over the years, mostly through Bruce, plus a couple private sales to collectors. More of getting rid of duplicates than dealing. Even if you averaged them all out, it's less than one sale per year I've been collecting so I don't think I qualify as a dealer except in the most extreme definition. Of course, these days I don't buy much either. Craig. At 06:51 AM 7/31/2007, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I get the feeling that a majority of members of MoPo are either full-time or part-time movie paper sellers. If it is not too personal, who here is a member who does not sell ANY movie paper? You are welcome to simply post a one sentence answer, and not explain why. I am just wondering if there are virtually ANY collectors only on this forum! Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Seeking comprehensive list of all 50's Sci-Fi Films
At 06:31 AM 7/3/2007, rodxmorgan wrote: URL, not Book Not just favorites or most popular All the cheese, schlock, MST3000, etc Would include: late 40's and early 60's of the genre Does one exist? The only thing I know of is a book, Bill Warren's KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] a General Question
At 05:47 PM 6/25/2007, JEFF POTOKAR wrote: hi MOPO'ers, just a general question.siilar to a poll. how many in here are ACTUALLY involved in the film business? and i dont mean you had a relative or friend that has explained things to you..but are actually WORKING in this business. i do. so many throw comments around in here as if they were irving thalberg, stacey snider, or sherry lansing... These days I work mostly in television but I started out in features and still do occasionally. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Dark Crystal one-sheets
Not super-cheap but not terribly valuable. (Years ago I gave a friend a Style D Star Wars poster, not knowing the value. Back then it was only worth about $100 but still, I might have not just given it away if I'd known.) Thanks for the quick reply. Craig. At 05:49 PM 6/7/2007, Kirby McDaniel wrote: We have them rolled for $45.00. Now if I get an order for 10, you will know they are too cheap. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Jun 7, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote: We have them rolled for $45.00. Now if I get an order for 10, you will know they are too cheap. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Craig Miller wrote: Can anyone give me a ballpark value for original The Dark Crystal one- sheets? Not trying to buy or sell. I have a few (from when I did the publicity for the film's release) and a friend wants me to give him one. I don't mind doing it since he's a huge fan of the film, but don't want to discover I've given him something worth a couple hundred bucks. He isn't that good a friend... Thanks, Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] F/A: 787 dvds on ebay ending in less than 48 hours
I've no problem with film-related items being mentioned here. Certainly no more than I have a problem with the idea that this is a selling list as opposed to one for discussion of movie posters. (Of course, I'd be more interested in buying DVDs if the prices were better than I could get locally, for the most part, and locally I don't have to pay postage.) Craig. At 10:40 PM 5/6/2007, JEFF POTOKAR wrote: is this a dvd selling list?? jeff On May 6, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Richard Auras wrote: Less than 2 days left on the 787 dvds currently on ebay. Some great out of print classic titles, criterion editons, boxed sets (Charlie Chan) and more. Please check them out Rick http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZtxQ2aretahttp://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZtxQ2areta Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] In the NY Times today...
For those of us who don't subscribe to the New York Times would appreciate a little more detail. Craig. At 10:42 AM 3/24/07 -0700, Danny Steward wrote: From Today's Headines in the NY Times on line is this header story in the Arts section, and all on a poster near you! Is the Congress, itself a hotbed of horror and corruption, about to create a new form of censorship. Danny / Seattle Government to Take a Hard Look at Horror By MICHAEL CIEPLY Torture, murder and deadly plagues, all making their way to a theater near you. And all being advertised on a poster near you. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig Miller Wolfmill Entertainment[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
