Re: [MOPO] Megalopolis

[David Kusumoto]

I've read that it's an experimental movie with more in common with Picasso and 
Pollock than with Kubrick, Malick and Warhol.  You're supposed to figure out 
its deeper meanings on your own.

A standing ovation at Cannes to me is the same as what happens after every 
Broadway show, regardless of quality.  ("Blonde" got a 14-minute ovation at 
Venice and I thought it supremely overrated.)  Coppola is revered, but 
everything I've read - and it's a lot - indicates it's even MORE impenetrable 
than the monolith in 2001, so puzzling that no one will distribute it.  It's 
sad for any creative to put their heart into something, hoping it will be 
universally lauded when in fact, mold-breaking art is better off made to please 
yourself vs. caring what people think.  He still envisions IMAX screenings and 
a wide release at AMC/Regal and that's not going to happen unless a benefactor 
who spent more than the $120 million Coppola bankrolled himself - rolls the 
dice and puts out another misleading trailer akin to how early audiences rushed 
to see "Poor Things," which experienced a fair number of walkouts this past 
winter despite that movie being a straight-forward sexual romp with surreal 
imagery.   Not for everyone so the hope is the rest of us will see it via a 
streamer. -d.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/movies/megalopolis-francis-ford-coppolas-guide.html
[https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/05/16/multimedia/megalopolis-explainer-ktcg/megalopolis-explainer-ktcg-facebookJumbo.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]
Francis Ford Coppola’s ‘Megalopolis’: What to 
Know
After its premiere at the Cannes Film Festival, we can answer your many 
questions, though some details still puzzle us.
www.nytimes.com


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tom Martin 

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2024 2:39 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Megalopolis

cool i guess my gut feeling still is working..so happy for Francis his
dad Carmine was leader conductor of the Detroit symphony
  God bless Francis ! a woman i knew that worked at ILM said Francis
Collected old projection like Magic lanterns and zoetrops as i was realy
in toaold projectsion fromthe 1800s on...
he  even called his company Zoetrope studios.

Tom
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977


On 2024-05-17 17:20, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
> Yes, it was shown at Cannes and elicited a 7 minute standing ovation.
>
>> On May 17, 2024, at 4:16 PM, Tom Martin
>>  wrote:
>>
>> my son thought it sounded good bbut the finance part of Hollywood
>> seems like its a lot different then back in teh 70s...i heard sherry
>> redstone was talking about mergeing Paramount with Warner br others
>> and doing mega deals... iam so removed from it alli have no idea who
>> is who...you would think some one would help copolla do his [assion
>> Projecty... Corman just passed so theold Gaurd seemsto be leaving..
>> God bless Francis andhope he gets his project out there..
>>
>> Best Tom
>> Hollywood dream factory®
>> since 1977
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2024-05-17 16:33, Alan Adler wrote:
>>> Hi Tom -
>>> I thought it was finished and being presented at Cannes, but
>>> Coppola’s
>>> been on the bone of this epic project for decades. The reviews so far
>>> fluctuate between better than Godfather and Apocolypse Now and a
>>> walk-out-of-the theater head-scratcher (shades of 2001’s premiere).
>>> The trailer looks very Chris Nolan, but Coppola’s deep emotions
>>> running beneath. Can’t wait for it. Nobody makes game changing pix
>>> like FFC.
>>> Alan
 On May 17, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Tom Martin
  wrote:
 my son said Fr Francis Ford Coppola was is in Cannes trying to raise
 money to promot itas its his life passion film I guesss he sold off
 some of hiis winereyin calif to raise funds andis tryingto partner
 with some entertainment giants to match his 100 million..
 funny how filmmakers and musicians get a personal passion for
 projects as wellas inventors.. like Edison >tesla, Walt Disny etc..
 so considering FRancis is inhis 80s?? its a testament to creative
 people andhow they keep thinking new ideas..
 I rememberseeing that film that phillip Glass did the soundtrack
 itwas a moving work...
 and i loved TUCKer he did with George Lucas... great film
 I have not seen anything fromthe movie./ bet its Good..
 the content is so oversatuated by netflix, cable and the streaming
 i just havea single antenna and onlywatch basic tv channels and
 amoverwhelmed by that,,, I dont stream or even get dvds iam givine a
 whole case of DVDS to my son i kept one..
 Jurrassic park...that was one ofthe last wow films i saw in 1993
 Tom
 Hollywood dream Factory®
 since 1977
 On 2024-05-17 11:25, Alan Adler wrote:
> Anyone from Mopolopolis seen 

[MOPO] Auctions proceed at Christie's despite cyberattack

[David Kusumoto]

Just an FYI only.  Even though Christie's is less relevant to the movie poster 
hobby today vs. what it was during the 1990s when Bruce H., Tony N. and Rudy F 
were hosting 'em - what's been going on this past week is still causing 
shudders.  In case of a paywall, I've copied-pasted its text below. - d.

https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/fine-art/christies-cyber-attack-auctions-290b2a53
[https://images.wsj.net/im-959631/social?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
The Art Market is Down. A Cyberattack at Christie’s May Make Things Worse. 

The auction house plans for sales to proceed, including for a Warhol “Flowers” 
estimated at $20 million.
www.wsj.com


헧헵헲 헔헿혁 헠헮헿헸헲혁 헶혀 헗헼현헻. 헔 헖혆헯헲헿헮혁혁헮헰헸 헮혁 헖헵헿헶혀혁헶헲’혀 헠헮혆 헠헮헸헲 헧헵헶헻헴혀 헪헼헿혀헲.
By Kelly Crow, Tuesday, May 14, 2024

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1305/V5wx7P.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]

Christie’s remained in the grip of an ongoing cyberattack on Tuesday, a crisis 
that has hobbled the auction house’s website and altered the way it can handle 
online bids.

This could disrupt its sales of at least $578 million worth of art up for bid 
this week, starting tonight with a pair of contemporary art auctions amid New 
York’s major spring sales.

Christie’s said it has been grappling with the fallout of what it described as 
a technology security incident since Thursday morning — a breach or threat of 
some kind, though the auction house declined to discuss details because of its 
own security protocols.

Christie’s also declined to say whether any of the private or financial data it 
collects on its well-heeled clientele had been breached or stolen, though it 
said it would inform customers if that proves to be the case.



“We’re still working on resolving the incident, but we want to make sure we’re 
continuing our sales and assuring our clients that it’s safe to bid,” said 
Chief Executive Guillaume Cerutti.

Sotheby’s and Phillips haven’t reported any similar attacks on their sites.

Christie’s crisis comes at a particularly fragile moment for the global art 
market.  Heading into these benchmark spring auctions, market watchers were 
already wary, as broader economic fears about wars and inflation have chipped 
away at collectors’ confidence in art values.  Christie’s sales fell to $6.2 
billion last year, down 20% from the year before.

Doug Woodham, managing partner of Art Fiduciary Advisors and a former 
Christie’s president, said people don’t want to feel the specter of scammers 
hovering over what’s intended to be an exciting pastime or serious investment: 
the act of buying art.

“It’s supposed to be a pleasurable activity, so anything that creates an 
impediment to enjoying that experience is problematic because bidders have 
choices,” Woodham said.

Aware of this, Cerutti says the house has gone into overdrive to publicly show 
the world’s wealthiest collectors that they can shop without a glitch — even as 
privately the house has enlisted a team of internal and external technology 
experts to resolve the security situation.  Currently, it’s sticking to its 
schedule for its New York slate of six auctions of impressionist, modern and 
contemporary art, plus two luxury sales, though one watch sale in Geneva 
scheduled for Monday was postponed to today.

The first big test for Christie’s comes tonight with the estimated $25 million 
estate sale of top Miami collector Rosa de la Cruz, who died in February and 
whose private foundation offerings include “Untitled” (America #3),” a string 
of lightbulbs by Félix González-Torres estimated to sell for at least $8 
million.

Cerutti said no consignors to Christie’s have withdrawn their works from its 
sales this week as a result of the security incident.

After the De la Cruz sale, Christie’s 21st Century sale on Tuesday will include 
a few pricier heavyweights, including a Brice Marden diptych, “Event,” and a 
Jean-Michel Basquiat from 1982, “The Italian Version of Popeye Has no Pork in 
his Diet,” each estimated to sell for at least $30 million.

But the cyberattack has already altered the way some collectors might 
experience these bellwether auctions at Christie’s.  Registered online bidders 
used to be able to log into the main website before clicking to bid in sales. 
This week, the house will email them a secure link redirecting them to a 
private Christie’s Live site where they can watch and bid in real time.

Everyone else will be encouraged to call in or show up to bid at the house’s 
saleroom in Rockefeller Center in Midtown Manhattan. If more bidders show up in 
person, the experience might prove to be a squeeze.

During the pandemic, Christie’s reconfigured its main saleroom from a vast, 
well-lit space that could fit several hundred people into a spotlit set that 
more closely evokes a television studio, with far fewer seats and more 

Re: [MOPO] Propstore April Auction - What The, Huh?

[David Kusumoto]

Grey is correct.  Bidders should always use an auction house's dedicated 
bidding platform vs. one run by a third party.  For the PropStore sale, I 
bookmarked a lot of items.  Not once did I consider bidding or even "watching" 
through another "layer" via Invaluable.

Some houses allow third-party platforms to run parallel to their own platforms, 
e.g., Invaluable, Live Auctioneers, etc. - which yes, do take an additional cut 
from bidders and are vulnerable to lags.  I totally get that they allow for a 
wider net of potential bidders, esp. for smaller houses who save money not 
running their own bid sites.  But they also strike me as auction consolidation 
/ "brokerage" accounts for MANY auction houses being platformed on one site.  I 
won't use them unless they're the ONLY platform used by a house.  (Sometimes 
you find out when you visit the auction house website and try to bid - and 
you're re-directed to a third party platform with a different domain address.  
That's how you know.)

The only time a third-party platform makes sense to buyers is when they're 
exclusive to an auction house and not redundant, e.g., eMoviePoster's bidders, 
whether they know it or not, use the Auction Anything platform / software - but 
this is the ONLY platform in use by eMoviePoster.  You're not going to find its 
items on Invaluable or on any third party bidding platform.  (BTW, Auction 
Anything has other, lesser known auction house clients whose sales look vastly 
different - despite a few software similarities you can spot.  It's a reliable 
platform with the client having full control of its content - and lags or 
outages are rare.)

I do feel for Glenn in one sense because registrations are approved by the 
house - but sometimes this goes through the third party platform so he was 
probably unaware he could have gone straight to PropStore or contacted Grey 
direct.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Glenn Taranto 

Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 8:59 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

Grey, Greg, Rich et al -

1)  I didn't know there was any kind of upcharge for bidding through 
Invaluable. Never again.
2)  I've won through Invaluable before without any issues.
3)  How or Why is Propstore affiliated with Invaluable in the first place? Very 
confusing if you don't want us bidding through them.
4) Why was my bid not accepted?

Glenn



On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:43 AM Grey Smith 
mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Greg
This was all done by Invaluable.
Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was approved 
to bid there..
On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone.
I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on Invaluable, but 
since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been significant.



On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:

Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM
From: "Grey Smith" mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh?

It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get it; 
"bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore?
I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it 
framed on my wall,  when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and  crushes me 
with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take things 
like that well.
It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had indeed 
outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a great 
price...
Greg Douglass
Beautiful Coos Bay, OR

Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase?
I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s great 
interactive live platform or by phone?



On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor 
mailto:nailman...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction. All 
other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means Invaluable 
bid loses.



On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto 
mailto:exit82afi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Greg, et al -

How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while now.

Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days...

Guess not!!!

Invaluable SUCKS

Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen
Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD
My Max Bid:$250 USD
Sold: $250 USD
Propstore Los Angeles 
 
April 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US

Bidder
Bid Type
Bid Date/Time
Amount
Status
Floor
Floor
4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM
$250
Winner
e***m
Absentee
4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM
$250
Submitted, not accepted

Glenn



On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM 

Re: [MOPO] Does This Poster Restoration Work Impact Value?

[David Kusumoto]

This debate has been going on for years and people remain split on it.  In 
fact, more recently there was this raging debate on a fan site about removing 
personalization from a genuine signature from a Beatle.

My thoughts, then vs. now, have changed.

I used to think personalization ruins a book, poster, photograph, whatever.  I 
no longer do and prefer it because:

1) The more strokes of a pen, the easier it is for authenticators to separate 
what's genuine vs. what's a forgery.
2) Collectors can still prefer NO personalization - but it gets complicated 
when it's done by a celebrity who is no longer alive.

Recently, a collector wanted opinions about removing personalization from an 
item signed by John Lennon.  The signature was authenticated by two different 
organizations - and the collector said seeing "personalization" to another 
person not sharing his name - really bugged the crap out of him.

Where I fall on this is simple.  I would NEVER want to erase a single pen 
stroke done by a legendary figure.  Same with authors.  I prefer 
personalization from an author like Hemingway, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Didion, 
E.B. White, Virginia Woolf, etc.   I don't care if the personalization is for a 
random fan vs. for someone who was famous, the latter of course would enhance 
value. To me, it represents the celebrity taking an extra few seconds to write 
something besides his / her name.  I myself would never erase personalization 
from even a single-genre celebrity like Mark Hamill, who is notorious about 
publicly calling out fakes of his own signature.  Separate from signatures, 
restoration of paper does impact the perception of value, e.g., sometimes a 
poster needs it and the value goes up or down or stays the same.  In the comic 
book world, though, restoration does have devastating impact on value.

Of course, right now people want to remove things like, "Best of luck William, 
All the Best! Paul McCartney" - if they're not named William.  They're look at 
personalization as hurting market value.  Probably.  But when someone like 
McCartney eventually passes - and the world mourns him - the perception of 
market value with or without personalization DOES shift.  Again, speaking for 
myself, I would never want to remove anything signed by such a person.  That's 
like wanting a portion of Albert Einstein's writing removed because it includes 
something like, "You're a smart young man, Herbert!  Good luck!  A. Einstein." 
-d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Glenn Taranto 

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 1:41 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Does This Poster Restoration Work Impact Value?

Interesting topic, Scott.  I have always been under the impression that a 
personalized autograph was more likely to be authentic.

I had Robert Dix sign a lobby card the first time I met him. Instead of Glenn 
he signed it to STAN! I was too polite to correct him or do anything about it. 
It bothered me every time I looked at it. I eventually sold it. It wasn't worth 
much at all but I just couldn't look at it. Silly I guess but I'm not Stan and 
never have been!

Robert and I later became good friends and I have his signature on things that 
are more personal to me than a lobby card so it's all good.

Glenn

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 4:05 PM Scott Burns 
mailto:sbu...@columbus.rr.com>> wrote:

Interesting video from Fourth Cone Restoration on YouTube where a client wanted 
“Best to Harold” removed from a “Star Wars” Topps poster, autographed by Mark 
Hamill. Does this kind of restoration make any difference in the value of the 
poster? This being a Topps poster, I’m not sure how much value there was to 
begin with, but a Hamill autograph would certainly boost the value. Opinions?



https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mfK1nW-ovFY?feature=share



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[MOPO] Corrected - Re: Bullitt Special poster

[David Kusumoto]

(Corrected measurement citation.)

I think you're onto a couple of things, Helmut.  While I believe what was sold 
Tuesday is original - (if only because its printing is vivid and the sharpest 
I've seen of this image) - I bet you are right, that scores of glossy reprints 
that I've seen everywhere of this image - were reprinted from the "original" - 
if in fact, that is what this is.  eMoviePoster makes clear its unknown origins 
and says it measures 24 x 33.5.  It looks like a large marketing spec to me, 
the kind that gets circulated and handled by a lot of people.  But there are 
tons of repros of this image available in Asia via eBay, Etsy and independent 
printers - all measuring 24x36 - a more consumer friendly size - but they're 
not near as vivid as what eMoviePoster sold Tuesday - which measures 2 1/2 
inches shorter, was obviously folded before being backed - and does not look 
like a trimmed commercial by Pyramid.

I mention Pyramid because this image was first commercially licensed by Warner 
Bros. marketing / merchandising to Pyramid International in the U.K. in the 
early 1990s through the mid-2000s - and sold rolled as issued by retailers.  
That version had added mouse print on the bottom edges of both corners 
crediting (and paradoxically "designed") by Pyramid.  But even the Pyramid 
repros didn't look near as bold as the folded on linen example which sold 
Tuesday.  The counterfeits I see everywhere - measure anywhere from 23x33 to 
24x36 - but have been slightly modified, dropping Pyramid's publishing credit 
as you'd see on most commercial / retail posters.  To me this means that what 
I'm seeing everywhere - are likely unlicensed rogue posters sold by retailers 
"as is."


eMoviePoster's example, graded "fair to good" on linen:

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4237/jOX30r.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


Commercial reprint by Pyramid, early 1990 through mid-2000s:
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2667/ON2r6B.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


Close-up of commercial publishing credit:
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7817/T81z0h.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 
<02a292c4d413-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 1:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Bullitt Special poster

I was quite amazed to see this special poster for BULLITT in the last 
emovieposter auction:

https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/7901052.html

There is a very common reprint of this poster around, and I always wondered if 
it was made from an actual studio issued poster or if it was an 'original 
fake', which I considered quite unlikely.

Of course, we still don't know what this is exactly, but this listing is proof 
that the reprints were indeed copied from an original.

Now if anybody has an unbacked copy for sale, feel free to drop me a note. 
Where there's one, there have to be more!

Helmut

www.filmposter.net


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Re: [MOPO] Bullitt Special poster

[David Kusumoto]

I think you're onto a couple of things, Helmut.  While I believe what was sold 
Tuesday is original - (if only because its printing is vivid and the sharpest 
I've seen of this image) - I bet you are right, that scores of glossy reprints 
that I've seen everywhere of this image - were reprinted from the "original" - 
if in fact, that is what this is.  eMoviePoster makes clear its unknown origins 
and says it measures 24 x 33.5.  It looks like a large marketing spec to me, 
the kind that gets circulated and handled by a lot of people.  But there are 
tons of repros of this image available in Asia via eBay, Etsy and independent 
printers - all measuring 24x36 - a more consumer friendly size - but they're 
not near as vivid as what eMoviePoster sold Tuesday - which measures a 1/2 inch 
shorter,  was obviously folded before being backed - and does not look like a 
trimmed commercial by Pyramid.

I mention Pyramid because this image was first commercially licensed by Warner 
Bros. marketing / merchandising to Pyramid International in the U.K. in the 
early 1990s through the mid-2000s - and sold rolled as issued by retailers.  
That version had added mouse print on the bottom edges of both corners 
crediting (and paradoxically "designed") by Pyramid.  But even the Pyramid 
repros didn't look near as bold as the folded on linen example which sold 
Tuesday.  The counterfeits I see everywhere - measure anywhere from 23x33 to 
24x36 - but have been slightly modified, dropping Pyramid's publishing credit 
as you'd see on most commercial / retail posters.  To me this means that what 
I'm seeing everywhere - are likely unlicensed rogue posters sold by retailers 
"as is."

eMoviePoster's example, graded "fair to good" on linen:

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4237/jOX30r.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


Commercial reprint by Pyramid, early 1990 through mid-2000s:
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2667/ON2r6B.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


Close-up of commercial publishing credit:
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7817/T81z0h.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 
<02a292c4d413-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 1:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Bullitt Special poster

I was quite amazed to see this special poster for BULLITT in the last 
emovieposter auction:

https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/7901052.html

There is a very common reprint of this poster around, and I always wondered if 
it was made from an actual studio issued poster or if it was an 'original 
fake', which I considered quite unlikely.

Of course, we still don't know what this is exactly, but this listing is proof 
that the reprints were indeed copied from an original.

Now if anybody has an unbacked copy for sale, feel free to drop me a note. 
Where there's one, there have to be more!

Helmut

www.filmposter.net

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[MOPO] Pretty damn good.

[David Kusumoto]

The Gold Rush came in at $84.5K, the 4th highest result on a single poster lot 
in that company's history, behind a '33 King Kong 1S, a '31 Frankenstein TC and 
'15 Cleopatra 1S.  Congrats. -d.

[5p0418 GOLD RUSH linen 1sh 1925 great art of Charlie Chaplin & Hale, his 
masterpiece, beyond 
rare!]
5p0418 GOLD RUSH linen 1sh 1925 great art of Charlie Chaplin & Hale, his 
masterpiece, beyond 
rare![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: good to very good
Final Price: $84,900

Winning Bidder: ma500969
[5p0658 VIOLENT IS THE WORD FOR CURLY linen 1sh 1938 Three Stooges as pretend 
professors, ultra 
rare!]
5p0658 VIOLENT IS THE WORD FOR CURLY linen 1sh 1938 Three Stooges as pretend 
professors, ultra 
rare![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good
Final Price: $26,000

Winning Bidder: thinman
[5p0358 JAWS linen int'l 7-sheet poster 1975 Steven Spielberg, gigantic c/u art 
of shark under 
girl!]
5p0358 JAWS linen int'l 7-sheet poster 1975 Steven Spielberg, gigantic c/u art 
of shark under 
girl![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good
Final Price: $25,000

Winning Bidder: Wi742879
[5p0305 EMPIRE STRIKES BACK 1sh 1980 unedited Roger Kastel art w/added images, 
last sold for 
$14,570!]
5p0305 EMPIRE STRIKES BACK 1sh 1980 unedited Roger Kastel art w/added images, 
last sold for 
$14,570![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good
Final Price: $21,500

Winning Bidder: Wh728092
[5p0419 BIRTH OF A NATION linen 1sh 1915 D.W. Griffith, art of Booth after 
Lincoln shot, ultra 
rare!]
5p0419 BIRTH OF A NATION linen 1sh 1915 D.W. Griffith, art of Booth after 
Lincoln shot, ultra 
rare![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good
Final Price: $20,888

Winning Bidder: turkey
[5p0397 KING KONG linen French 1p 1933 best different Peron art of ape on 
Empire State, ultra 
rare!]
5p0397 KING KONG linen French 1p 1933 best different Peron art of ape on Empire 
State, ultra 
rare![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: good
Final Price: $19,612

Winning Bidder: blixenbids
[5p0361 STAR WARS linen 82x92 7-sheet 1977 super-sized classic Tom Jung style A 
art, incredibly 
rare!]
5p0361 STAR WARS linen 82x92 7-sheet 1977 super-sized classic Tom Jung style A 
art, incredibly 
rare![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good to fine
Final Price: $14,000

Winning Bidder: cjobearkwalker
[5p0131 ATTACK OF THE 50 FT WOMAN 1sh 1958 classic Reynold Brown art, great 
unrestored 
condition!]
5p0131 ATTACK OF THE 50 FT WOMAN 1sh 1958 classic Reynold Brown art, great 
unrestored 
condition![https://www.emovieposter.com/images/pic_small_cam.gif?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Condition Grade: very good
Final Price: $11,500

Winning Bidder: hilts324
[5p0111 BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S 6sh 1961 classic McGinnis art of sexy Audrey 
Hepburn with 
kitten!]
5p0111 BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S 

Re: [MOPO] Way off topic

[David Kusumoto]

We gotta live with it here in CA.  I wouldn't want to own a poster gallery or 
any kind of store in some of these cities now.  It's more unnerving when it 
happens in the suburbs where I am.  Since Saturday, 17 stores have been hit 
here in San Diego - 13 over a three-hour period across two nights - by the same 
4-5 armed guys in masks and hoodies.  Nothing can be done.  If you fight back 
as an owner and someone gets hurt, you face charges and protestors.  It tests 
your principles.  A collector I know in TX thinks it happens less there because 
perps never know who's packing heat.  I laughed but what she said "feels" true. 
- d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Alan Heimann 

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:23 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Way off topic

Firstly wishing everyone a happy and healthy holiday season.. sometimes you 
experience something and you feel compelled to share it with a chat group, even 
though it’s not relevant to what we normally chat about… In this case, I’m 
talking about an experience I had at a Target retail store.. This was at their 
42 nd st NYC location..you may have heard in the news that Target among other 
retailers is experiencing a high incidence of store theft, which they say is 
affecting their bottom line.. firstly, I went into the store to buy some bar 
soap… I was surprised I had to get somebody to open a locked cage to buy this… 
I could understand things like razor blade cartridges which tend to be 
expensive, etc. but bar soap… OK then I asked the fellow that opened the cage 
for me if there was a bathroom in the store? He replied yes But it was closed 
now… Really why is there a plumbing problem I asked him. no, he said the 
junkies go in there to shoot up after 4 o’clock so it’s not safe… OKkkk… I then 
proceeded to the self checkout all the machines were being used, so I waited 
behind a person to watch this person put about 10 items on the scanner and then 
put them in a bag without paying for them. Not sure how that works, and then 
finally, as I was proceeding to exit the store I noticed three New York City 
police officers at the escalator, a teenager started to walk up the escalator 
with a pile of stuff in a basket. One of the officers approached him, and said 
you got to be kidding… The kid dumped all the stuff on the floor and ran up the 
escalator and started cursing and flipping the bird to the officer… I thought 
maybe the officer would radio or chase him, but just told him to get out.. we 
all read a lot of stuff in the news, but living the moment is a different 
experience

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Re: [MOPO] BLACK FRIDAY SALE 2023  CineMasterpieces VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS 

[David Kusumoto]

Don't know how many others are on Dave Lieberman's newsletter but I hadn't 
visited his site in a long time and I went straight to his Star Wars section - 
and I was floored by the wealth of information about almost every known poster 
iteration of Star Wars - from concept to its celebrated inaugural year of 1977 
- (theatrical and commercial) - in roughly chronological order.  The section 
includes detailed images and descriptions of known fakes, including personal 
testimonials of oddball things he concedes he was initially fooled about like a 
lot of us.

He also provides a detailed study of printer's proofs - which - while I've 
never had the desire to collect nor own, is still interesting insofar there are 
collectors who DO love and pay $$$ for them.  He explains how they came to be, 
their ubiquitous presence and the differences between PMS (pantone) vs. CMYK 
proofs, which came first, etc. - and why it matters to some collectors and not 
to others.  Great stuff for SW completists.

Encourage anyone interested to venture over there and take a gander, not just 
at the massive Star Wars section - but also other sections, including the one 
where he re-lives the entire minty white insert and lobby card counterfeit saga 
- from his own point of view as a gallery owner of many years in AZ.  He 
further provides in one section - a long list of titles and accompanying 
formats he implicates as having been faked - in line with other dealers who've 
said the same.  He also sources the geographic locations of some suspect 
dealers who - to this day - are still peddling these things as originals.

Between this, eMoviePoster, Learn About Movie Posters, Walter Reuben and others 
- this is a storehouse of information grouped by category / genre that's 
available right now - for free.

Best, David near San Diego, still the biggest fan of the never-faked (to date) 
- and grossly underrated Star Wars half-sheet from 1977 with alternate Jung 
art.  Cinemasterpieces image below.

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P.S. - The Chantrell art on the Style C is probably my true fav among the SW 
one-sheets - were it not for the fakes and not even knowing until recently 
about the "hair on Leia's back" as a marker on that style - sort of a "bookend" 
to the style A repro.  But I still think the alternate Jung landscape art on 
the half-sheet is excellent and affordable - and after nearly 50 years - it 
still puzzles me how unloved it is by so many. (Not the centerpiece of anyone's 
SW collection that I know of.)  I know it will never reach the heights of a 
Casablanca of Oz half-sheet in my remaining lifetime - (which are admittedly 
more rare) - but maybe future generations of Disney fans will.  -d.


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Re: [MOPO] Has Anyone Ever Seen This Half Sheet?

[David Kusumoto]

* At some point when I have more time I'll explain it - (Kirby and myself have 
gone over the steps a zillion times during the past 25 years) - but in most 
cases - the ability to post images in an email is a function of the limitations 
of your own email program, e.g., web-based vs. app-based - whatever you use on 
your computer or on your phone.  I cannot post images to MoPo on an app-based 
email program but I can on a web-based one - and I routinely post images to 
"break up my posts" - because they tend to run forever - and the psychology of 
readers is such that they need a lot of white space and paragraph breaks - as 
an incentive to keep going when they encounter a "single-spaced wall of words."

* Propstore, Heritage and a few other sites routinely post images on MoPo - but 
not as attachments which would be auto-rejected by MoPo's server - but as 
web-hosted images.

* Many email platforms don't allow web-hosting images for security reasons 
while others do.  I use Microsoft / Outlook via the cloud - but note that the 
web-host image is usually re-sized to fit a page - while the image seen at the 
actual link that Peter provided - opens up another tab and displays the San 
Quentin poster in all of its high-res glory. - d.

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From: MoPo List  on behalf of peter contarino 

Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 6:40 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen This Half Sheet?

Hallelujah!!

On Friday, November 24, 2023, Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:
You done good, Peter. Coming through live & in living color.
Greg Douglass

Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 at 9:19 AM
From: "peter contarino" 
mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Has Anyone Ever Seen This Half Sheet?

There is definitely some really nice material in this upcoming Propstore 
auction. 25 years in I still can't figure out how to add an image to mopo 
evidently :-) I will try one more:San Quentin Half 
Sheet

On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 10:26 PM S & N Yafet 
mailto:sya...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Fair enough!  Curry and all.  Happy Thanksgiving.

Nathalie

On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 10:00 PM Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:

Yep, I certainly agree on those titles. I was speaking more as a generality, as 
compared to, say, those color saturated Paramount posters from the same 
period.. And, of course, everything's subjective. I was weaned on 
insanity-provoking 50s AIP horror/sci-fi/bad girl mages so...there's THAT! It'd 
be like growing up eating super-hot curry...everything tastes bland in 
comparison.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Greg Douglass
Still in Coos Bay OR

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 6:39 PM
From: "S & N Yafet" mailto:sya...@gmail.com>>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Has Anyone Ever Seen This Half Sheet?

It's lovely.

But I never thought Warner's 30's and 40's paper was drab.  The Kay Francis 
30's pieces are gorgeous.  British Intelligence, West of Shanghai, The Walking 
Dead and Devil's Island (Karloff 1930's) are also nice.  Especially the lobby 
cards.  I have The Devil's Island insert in my hallway.

Nathalie

On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 9:30 PM Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:

I haven't seen this one and I'm impressed. A lot of Warners stuff from the 30s 
& 40s is kind of drab. This has some lovely pastel colors. There's some really 
nice stuff on the Propstore auction.

Greg Douglass
Coos Bay, OR

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 6:20 PM
From: "peter contarino" 
mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Has Anyone Ever Seen This Half Sheet?

Check this San Quentin half sheet out in the upcoming Propstore Auction. I have 
never come across this style before. Very cool!
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Re: [MOPO] Artist Roger Kastel Has Passed Away

[David Kusumoto]

Yes, I agree, horror to me is like ghosts / the paranormal, supernatural and 
giant monsters resulting from nuclear radiation or the living dead, etc.  I 
consider the Exorcist and the Sixth Sense to be horror movies - but the latter 
completely blindsided me, its famous ending.  And I'd forgotten it was one of 
the few straight up horror pics besides the Exorcist - to get nominated for 
Best Picture.  I look at Jaws as an adventure classic about competing interests 
in Martha's Vineyard - with a spectacular closing shot before the credits.  
Still stuns me to this day, the way it's cut and assembled.

But a few months ago I saw one of the bloody remakes of "Piranha" and I put it 
in the category of comedy horror because even though piranhas exist - as 
depicted in this, it was gross, over-the-top gory, like one of those Saw movies 
so graphic that the violence feels comic / cartoonish.  What got my attention 
though was it had Elisabeth Shue, Ving Rhames, Christopher Lloyd and even 
Richard Dreyfuss in it, not A-list but not D-list either.

Another movie that probably would be horror - that I've never seen - (and have 
no interest no matter how "good" it might be) - is Arachnophobia.  Nope.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Christopher Quarles 

Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 7:36 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Artist Roger Kastel Has Passed Away

I think for me, the difference is the horror movies cited portray monsters that 
don’t really exist in real life. Sharks are real.
Chris Quarles

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 11:39 PM Alan Adler 
mailto:m...@charter.net>> wrote:
Jaws is definitely a horror film - even a sci-fi/horror film - A big monstrous 
inhuman creature from the unknown comes for us. From The Creature to Them - 
it’s the same paradigm. Jaws took something that was always kind of scary but 
relatively known - they blew it up and made it very scary and very unknown. 
Made us afraid of our shadow. And that’s what monster makers do.

Alan
On Nov 15, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Christopher Quarles 
mailto:chrisqua...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned this before, but my younger friends consider 
Jaws a horror movie. This came to my attention when a huge horror fan who is my 
friend expressed dismay that Richard Dreyfuss was not going to be at the horror 
comic con. When I asked what horror movie, Richard Dreyfuss was in, he looked 
at me like I was crazy and said Jaws of course.
What is your opinion?
Chris Quarles

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 6:09 PM Phillip Ayling 
mailto:mro...@earthlink.net>> wrote:





https://deadline.com/2023/11/roger-kastel-dead-jaws-movie-poster-illustrator-1235613173/



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Re: [MOPO] NOW ONLINE AND BIDDING HAS BEGUN, PROPSTORE U.S. ENDS DEC 7 & 8

[David Kusumoto]

Great selection, Grey.  (Have always pined for the best scene card from 
Frankenstein but could never afford it.)  Near zero overlap with your lots and 
Bruce's holiday sale later this month = potential great buys for both. Also 
very much appreciate your detailed condition descriptions which can be tedious 
but necessary.  (People will inspect something but nobody wants to write 
everything out.)

I remember this being the biggest reason why I attended so many showroom 
previews in person. (I bet others did too.)  You had to because you couldn't 
always trust what was represented even if you asked for a condition report. 
(Had some crazy experiences with Sotheby's back in the day, a lot of returns. 
No one bids and roots for a transaction to fail.)

Congrats. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Moviemem Original 
Movie Posters 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 3:02 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: NOW ONLINE AND BIDDING HAS BEGUN, PROPSTORE U.S. ENDS DEC 7 & 8


Thanks Grey

Looks like it will be great auction



Regards



John



From: MoPo List  On Behalf Of Grey Smith
Sent: 17 November, 2023 1:47 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] NOW ONLINE AND BIDDING HAS BEGUN, PROPSTORE U.S. ENDS DEC 7 & 8



ENDING DEC. 7 & 8, PROPSTORE U.S. POSTER AUCTION IS NOW ONLINE

https://propstore.com/

Over 700 great lots are now open for bidding. Register to participate now.
https://propstore.com/auctions.action#guide

HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

47: CASABLANCA - Half Sheet (22" x 28"); Style B; Very Fine- on Paper

47: CASABLANCA - Half Sheet (22 x 28 ); Style B; Very Fine- on Paper 
(propstoreauction.com)



[https://images.propstore.com/71fe8dd35c4a2360a84f145a2e2de16b.jpg]



161: KING KONG - French, Full-Bleed (46" x 63"); Style A; Very Fine+ on Linen

161: KING KONG - French Grande, Full-Bleed (46 x 63 ); Style A; Very Fine on 
Linen 
(propstoreauction.com)



[https://images.propstore.com/9a22d0ea6c65ee3fe8e2366ee79ef3ab.jpg]



198: NIGHT OF THE DEMON - British Quad (30" x 40"); AKA Curse of the Demon; 
Very Fine+ on Linen

198: NIGHT OF THE DEMON - British Quad (30 x 40 ); AKA Curse of the Demon; Very 
Fine on Linen 
(propstoreauction.com)



[https://images.propstore.com/c3dde7f32dd51852160602a4435cf2c3.jpg]



278: STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Original Test Printing One-Sheet (27" 
x 41"); International; Near Mint Rolled

278: STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Original Test Printing One-Sheet (27 
x 41 ); International; Near Mint Rolled 
(propstoreauction.com)



[https://images.propstore.com/addad44a19891262aa5a949b8ac1ebd7.jpg]



164: LA DOLCE VITA - Italian 4-Fogli (55" x 77"); Very Fine+ on Linen

164: LA DOLCE VITA - Italian 4-Fogli (55 x 77 ); Very Fine on Linen 
(propstoreauction.com)

[https://images.propstore.com/3a64745ce7573f85f020a82934a06842.jpg]



143: JAMES BOND: THUNDERBALL - Subway (59.25" x 45.5"); Look Down Style; Very 
Fine+ on Linen

143: JAMES BOND: THUNDERBALL - Subway (59.25 x 45.5 ); Look Down Style; Very 
Fine on Linen 
(propstoreauction.com)



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[MOPO] My Parents Have a Lot of Stuff in Their House. I Don't Want Most of It.

[David Kusumoto]

Even though movie posters are not mentioned - this feels relatable.  To me this 
essay - (which appeared this week) - has more to do with the theme of how kids 
look at objects differently in the digital age - than what continues to 
interest us as kids who eventually become geriatrics , e.g., how the notion 
that what we pass down will have $$$ value for our kids - is often misplaced, 
if not outright wrong - (vs. value which is intensely sentimental to us - but a 
little less so for people who inherit them - vs. the kids or adults outside the 
family who DO have a genuine interest in them as collectibles).  It's why 
estate planning is better addressed now vs. when everyone is in a rush.  My 
wife right now is prepping the liquidation of another friend's estate - before 
she passes.  Her friend is in a rush for reasons beyond her control.  Her 
friend had plenty of time to do this but kept putting it off.  Unlike my wife, 
her friend is in her 90s and terminally ill - while her friend's husband - 
unexpectedly passed away last month - who "everyone thought" - would outlive 
everyone. The liquidation process before death - has now been unexpectedly 
accelerated - at hyperspeed.  And no one feels good about it.  No one feels 
relaxed racing against a clock with a known draining battery that will 
definitely end - even though no one knows EXACTLY the day it will happen. - d.

=

My Parents Have a Lot of Stuff in Their House. I Don't Want Most of It.

Many of us have belongings that meant a lot to our parents and grandparents.
How do we decide what to keep — and what to throw away?

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By Allison Pohle - Wednesday, Nov. 1, 2023 9:00 pm ET - WALL STREET JOURNAL

On a recent visit to my parents' house, I took a closer look at six Beanie 
Babies that long took up a spot in my childhood bedroom. Unlike my other Beanie 
Babies, these six, including a special-edition Princess Diana bear, weren't 
played with. My grandma urged me to take the utmost care with them, for they 
would be "collectors' items" one day.

If only she were right.

My parents' house is filled with no shortage of things my grandma mistakenly 
considered to have collectors'-item potential: Precious Moments figurines, 
special-edition Barbie dolls, Welch's glass jelly jars, even some McDonald's 
toys.

My grandma, the fifth of six children who told us she had two dresses as a 
child, also had collections of her own, the most notable being dozens of small, 
cartoonish glass ducks.

My grandma died several years ago, and unfortunately, none of her investment 
hopes have come true.
When it came time for our family to go through her things, all of that stuff — 
the ducks, the figurines, the old china — became just that: stuff.


A difficult question

By now, it is common knowledge that millennials like me don't want the old 
furniture, china or trinkets that we could inherit when our relatives die, or 
are offered to us as our parents downsize.

In general, we want to experience the world, but not have physical items 
signifying it.

As I've watched my parents navigate their own parents' deaths, and have 
observed the sheer number of physical items to sort through, I wondered: "How 
do we millennials know what to throw away and what to save?"

Home organizers, financial planners and consignment shops tell me it's a 
conversation they have with clients every day.

They say, though awkward, it is better to have open and honest conversations 
about estate planning when you can, rather than trying to navigate doing so in 
the anguish or time crunch after a family member dies.

My other grandma collected Hummels, the porcelain figurines popularized in 
Germany.

Some of her giant collection came from her own mother, who grew up there. When 
my grandma died, my aunt took many of the Hummels. My brother, sister and I 
each took one.

I also took one of my grandma's ducks.

But, even though I have spent the past decade living in apartments with a 
limited amount of space, I did have some guilt about not wanting more of her 
things. Was I somehow disrespecting her memory, and our connection, by 
rejecting the things that were important to her?

Many people feel responsibility to care for items because they were important 
to someone else, says Mindy Godding, president of the National Association of 
Productivity & Organizing Professionals.

Some of my friends have china plates sitting in cabinets, while others have 
boxes of ornaments their parents collected on their behalf.

I asked my parents about their own senses of responsibility.

The basement in my childhood home is filled with things from my grandparents 
and from me and my siblings when we were younger.

My dad says they keep them out of guilt or sentimentality.

But going through the loss of his own parents - has changed how my dad thinks 
about the things he will leave behind:

"What I'm trying to do, isn't to burden you 

[MOPO] Looking for "A Most Violent Year" (2014) DS one-sheet

[David Kusumoto]

Looking for this title, preferably the double-sided USA style seen below with 
the MPAA R rating at the bottom.  (The alternate style has the leads embracing 
which is more common.)  It usually sells for under $20 online but will pay up 
to $100 for VF+ condition.  Thanks! - d.

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[MOPO] Tod Browning's Spooky Silent Films - Criterion's New Blu-Ray / DVD Set

[David Kusumoto]

For those (like me) - who have always wondered about his films beyond Dracula, 
Freaks and London After Midnight:
Tod Browning’s Spooky Silent Films
Although most famous for ‘Dracula’ and ‘Freaks,’ the director did his best work 
earlier in his career, including two Halloween-ready films in a new set from 
Criterion: ‘The Unknown,’ featuring Lon Chaney, and ‘The Mystic.’
By David Mermelstein - Oct. 23, 2023 5:54 pm ET - WALL STREET JOURNAL

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Lon Chaney in ‘The Unknown’ - Photo: Criterion Collection


Before his pivot to movies, Tod Browning, who was born in Louisville, Ky., in 
1880, worked as a performer in carnivals and vaudeville.


The experience made him uniquely suited to direct pictures set in milieus 
beyond the mainstream—as the freighted sound film “Freaks” (1932), which 
essentially ended his career, surely attests.


But his best work lies in silent cinema, where he honed his craft and 
established his reputation.


Two such pictures, “The Mystic” (1925) and “The Unknown” (1927), have just been 
released in welcome new 2K restorations, part of a small collection from 
Criterion titled “Tod Browning’s Sideshow Shockers.” Available on either 
Blu-ray or DVD, the two-disc set also includes a restored “Freaks.”


But it’s the earlier silents, which are at times genuinely spooky, that make 
perfect viewing during Halloween season, when reminders of Browning’s most 
famous film, “Dracula” (1931), are ever-present.


Browning—whose given name, spelled just like the German word for death, wasn’t 
“given” at all, but rather taken under circumstances now mysterious—was a 
master at developing disturbing themes and images.


Yet none of his other movies outstrip “The Unknown” for cumulative 
creepiness—something we can now appreciate all the more given that the 2022 
reconstruction here making its home-video debut restores roughly 10 minutes of 
footage to the film’s 67-minute running time.


The sixth of 10 films in which Browning collaborated with Lon Chaney, the 
protean silent star still known as the Man of a Thousand Faces, “The Unknown” 
is set primarily in a Madrid circus, where the actor plays Alonzo, whose feats 
of dagger-throwing and sharpshooting are all the more impressive for his being 
armless.


(Despite Chaney’s renown as a cinematic contortionist, a genuinely armless 
carnival performer, Paul Desmuke, was artfully engaged as his body double at 
various points in this film.)


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Joan Crawford in ‘The Unknown’ Photo: Criterion Collection


Alonzo is in love with his beautiful assistant, Nanon, played by a sympathetic 
Joan Crawford in her first important screen role.


That Nanon can’t bear the touch of any man’s hands would seem to make them 
ideally suited, but there are two impediments: Alonso isn’t actually armless 
(he’s just pretending to be), and Nanon has another, far more handsome suitor, 
the strongman Malabar, played by the suave Norman Kerry—the third and final 
time, following “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” and “The Phantom of the Opera,” 
that Kerry would act as Chaney’s rival on film.


What lends the picture its especially ghoulish cast is how Alonzo perversely 
opts to overcome these obstacles—“There is nothing I will not do to own her! 
Nothing. . . . do you understand? Nothing!” flashes a prescient title card.


And Philip Carli’s lively new solo-piano score only enhances Merritt Gerstad’s 
evocative cinematography. (Shortly thereafter, Gerstad shot Chaney again, in 
Browning’s “London After Midnight,” now among the most famous “lost” films of 
the silent era.)


Far less familiar than “The Unknown” (let alone “Freaks”), “The Mystic” is 
released here for the first time on home video. And it is a boon not just for 
Browning fans, but also for those partial to silent films generally.


At 74 minutes, it briskly tells of a trio of Hungarian Gypsies—Aileen Pringle 
as Zara, the movie’s title character; Mitchell Lewis, the paternal Zazarack; 
and Robert Ober, the hot-headed, knife-throwing Anton—brought to the U.S. by an 
enterprising American conman, Michael Nash (played by Conway Tearle), convinced 
their talents are wasted in the European hinterlands.


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Aileen Pringle in ‘The Mystic’ Photo: Criterion Collection


After establishing Zara, transformed thanks to lavish art-deco costumes by an 
uncredited Erté, as a spiritualist to the rich and vulnerable, the foursome 
ultimately set their sights on a woefully naïve young heiress, Doris Merrick 
(the thoroughly endearing Gladys Hulette).


But love intervenes, with the previously steely Nash inconveniently falling, in 
different ways, for both Zara and Doris.


Though the film increasingly traffics in romance and melodrama as it 
progresses, the carnival milieu that opens the picture and, particularly, the 

Re: [MOPO] Movie item banned at eBay.

[David Kusumoto]

Yes Tom I mean a picture like GWTW has never been embraced by ALL 
African-Americans but at least one MoPo member (who is black) - wrote me 
privately about how she grew up loving Hattie McDaniel, that she could do no 
wrong and that the controversy goes back much further than what is going on 
now.  I think I wrote that what's going on now is just how younger people look 
at things and we're all gonna be replaced soon anyway, things change.

As far as the eBay thing - I spent too much time trying to get the program 
re-listed and added the following language to address the "community standards" 
violation by presenting historical context, TCM style:

" This program is presented as an historical artifact of 1939 - and NOT 
intended to promote, perpetuate, nor glorify hatred, violence, or 
discrimination, on the grounds of race, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, or 
sexual orientation.  It was recalled after the LA premiere NOT because of 
Hattie McDaniel's depiction - but because she was African-American. Though her 
performance is no longer universally admired - this program is an artifact - 
and its recall illustrates social and cultural forces in play in 1939 - and why 
contemporaneous marketers chose to suppress her performance in the film - 
despite receiving critical acclaim.  Her character was not how she was in real 
life.  Her honors and linkages to GWTW are factual - despite debates about what 
her performance meant in 1939 - vs. what it means today."

Of course, I thought this was typical overkill that I'm known for - so I 
punted.  I was aware of the huge result Bruce got last time (and so did others) 
- and we wondered if it was a one-off.  We're gonna find out soon.  I do think 
it will fetch more than $100 though - if only because the Hattie program has 
appeared just once in his entire auction history. - d.

P.S. - I remember thinking that my Japanese Internment camp poster from 1942 
was also dicey - but it went big on his site thanks to bids from a big-time 
rare book dealer I recognized from LA.  I feel that selling pure history (vs. 
entertainment) in this case - was gonna be more difficult than selling movie 
paper with controversial linkages.  I'm glad I was wrong about that.  - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tom Martin 

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:59 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Movie item banned at eBay.

David and Sean and mopo

since i started in Biz its became very sensitive of Political correct in the 
movie biz... for instance the lillian Gish theater in Bowling green state 
university 30 mile from was changed because it was associated with the Dw 
Griffith film as well as Disneys Song of the south and other films that depict 
Black actors as negative I think the naacp enforced it. However also i believe 
the native americans have had issue as well as Jewish community and also 
Japanese Americans if their heritage was presented in negative light.. so out 
of respect we need to honor those offended by that in sales of memorabilia.  I 
remember just in the 70s people collected Black memorabilia my friend John Kish 
did a book on Black cinema poster called a separate cinema that had a great 
collection of Black movie posters ... Spike lee and also keys did the foreword 
of the book./// he has the tv show about people roots I sold to Herb Bridges 
who wrote books on GWTW and worked fora Atlanta
newspaper and worked with the Ted Turner Family

so BG has one of the best collections of POP culture in the USA.. i did some 
appraisals for the producer of e-hollywood true storys who donated his material 
to BG his name was Jeff Shore the producer//they did some great shows

I guess we need to see everyone is sensitive to past and modify our sales to 
not offend any Race, religion or culture the movies if you consider taught kids 
racism of how they depicted.. Japanese, Germans, Italians, china and asians. 
Russians. Black and middle easterns and Indians in the early cinema.. sad but 
true// even the genders and gays were painted as a certain way and who can 
forget Al Jolson and black face comedy we just didn't see many were offended.. 
Now we do...I dont have any big answer except to love everyone and respect 
all.. Mel brooks made the point if we removed all the gay people there would be 
no cinema anymore as all the hair dresssors, actors and make up artists would 
not be around..

Therefore love everybody regardless of race or color or religion and help 
everybody you can because we are all brothers and sisters regardless of our 
heritage God bless everybody and let's hope people wake up and start treating 
each other as neighbors not as enemies

Tom
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 8:45 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Movie item banned at eBay.

He has a $30 

Re: [MOPO] Movie item banned at eBay.

[David Kusumoto]

He has a $30 minimum now - (and I think he'll eventually raise it to $50 or 
$100) - and the result earlier on his site could have been a one-off.  Like 
that Gilda that once sold for $73K at Heritage or that time when I bid on a 
Hannah and Her Sisters Australian daybill on Bruce's site that sold for more 
than $200.  (I ended up buying another from John Reid or one of the other 
dealers in Australia for far less.)  Might not happen again, never know.  
Programs generally don't fetch much. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Sean Linkenback 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 8:33 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Movie item banned at eBay.

Sounds like you should have just sent it to Bruce to start with.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:30 PM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
* Just wanted to share what happened to me recently.

* A few months ago, I posted a GWTW program for sale - the recalled version 
featuring Hattie McDaniel on the back. Someone reported me - and it got taken 
down and labeled as offensive. I guess whoever reported me - judged the program 
as being akin to selling Nazi memorabilia, I don't know.

* I re-listed it - but had to add exhaustive historical context which I 
personally researched - about how McDaniel was banned from the Atlanta and NYC 
premieres, etc. - adding citations about the program itself - from Ron Haver 
from 1980 and from an LA Daily News story - the latter reporting the Hattie 
program's appearance at the LA premiere she attended in late Dec. 1939 at the 
Carthay Pacific (Fox Village Westwood) - through early 1940.

* Eventually, all GWTW programs including the blank back ones at the premieres 
- were replaced by Selznick marketing executive Howard Dietz - with programs 
which took out Hattie and replaced her with actress Alicia Rhett, who had a 
minor role.  But I got to thinking - why am I fighting this at all with them?  
Rare book dealers in the know have all told me the Hattie programs - are 
outnumbered by the blank back ones and the Alicia Rhett ones - by a factor of 
thousands. It's the rare circumstance - whereby a commercial program - can be 
worth a few hundred bucks or more depending upon condition.

* Hattie's program was not banned because it was considered offensive in 
1939-40. It was banned because Selznick / MGM distribution / Howard Dietz did 
NOT want to potentially offend paying customers, esp. in segregated America. On 
the other hand - eBay's ban in 2023 - is based upon the program being 
considered offensive by TODAY'S cultural standards.  These are huge but 
important differences.

* So I took my program down and sent it to eMoviePoster - where it's supposed 
to appear in December.

* What I'm irritated about - is the whole "you have to explain everything" 
while defending yourself from people who think you're a racist - even when it 
comes to old movie posters.  I mean, you know, you're a branch-to-root racist 
for selling material considered offensive today, even if you put it in context 
to discourage this sort of takedown.  eBay doesn't know who I am, really, 
though I do sell a few tschotskes over there like signed first editions, etc.

* But what happened bugged me.  This has never happened to me before.  Hattie 
McDaniel - including her name - was kept off of all GWTW movie posters and 
subsequent re-issue posters for 50 years - for reasons we know. She was given 
line-credits only - and her likeness was scrubbed from all promotional 
materials until 1989.  Her likeness didn't even APPEAR on a re-issue poster 
until 1998.  I suppose you can't sell posters featuring Amos and Andy, Birth of 
a Nation nor the Jazz Singer over there either.  Without Hattie, the first 
African-American actor to win an Academy Award - GWTW is a different movie and 
loses its moral center - regardless of how people look at her depiction today.  
To me - she's the smartest character in the movie.

* But apparently - this stuff is selectively enforced by the "community 
standards" police. Because today I stumbled upon the following listing in 
lesser condition than the one I own - which I believe is also in lesser 
condition than the example eMoviePoster sold many months ago for more than $2K.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314909361404

* And no, I don't plan to report this - but I think the whole thing is nutty.  
Parenthetically, the seller's handle is familiar in a way that escapes me now. 
His listing does NOT come up in regular searches over there, e.g., "Gone with 
the Wind program."  It didn't for me, anyway. Maybe if you add the search word, 
"recalled" - it will come up, but otherwise it's not in the general listings. 
Just shaking my head.  No reply necessary, just venting. - d.


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[MOPO] Movie item banned at eBay.

[David Kusumoto]

* Just wanted to share what happened to me recently.

* A few months ago, I posted a GWTW program for sale - the recalled version 
featuring Hattie McDaniel on the back. Someone reported me - and it got taken 
down and labeled as offensive. I guess whoever reported me - judged the program 
as being akin to selling Nazi memorabilia, I don't know.

* I re-listed it - but had to add exhaustive historical context which I 
personally researched - about how McDaniel was banned from the Atlanta and NYC 
premieres, etc. - adding citations about the program itself - from Ron Haver 
from 1980 and from an LA Daily News story - the latter reporting the Hattie 
program's appearance at the LA premiere she attended in late Dec. 1939 at the 
Carthay Pacific (Fox Village Westwood) - through early 1940.

* Eventually, all GWTW programs including the blank back ones at the premieres 
- were replaced by Selznick marketing executive Howard Dietz - with programs 
which took out Hattie and replaced her with actress Alicia Rhett, who had a 
minor role.  But I got to thinking - why am I fighting this at all with them?  
Rare book dealers in the know have all told me the Hattie programs - are 
outnumbered by the blank back ones and the Alicia Rhett ones - by a factor of 
thousands. It's the rare circumstance - whereby a commercial program - can be 
worth a few hundred bucks or more depending upon condition.

* Hattie's program was not banned because it was considered offensive in 
1939-40. It was banned because Selznick / MGM distribution / Howard Dietz did 
NOT want to potentially offend paying customers, esp. in segregated America. On 
the other hand - eBay's ban in 2023 - is based upon the program being 
considered offensive by TODAY'S cultural standards.  These are huge but 
important differences.

* So I took my program down and sent it to eMoviePoster - where it's supposed 
to appear in December.

* What I'm irritated about - is the whole "you have to explain everything" 
while defending yourself from people who think you're a racist - even when it 
comes to old movie posters.  I mean, you know, you're a branch-to-root racist 
for selling material considered offensive today, even if you put it in context 
to discourage this sort of takedown.  eBay doesn't know who I am, really, 
though I do sell a few tschotskes over there like signed first editions, etc.

* But what happened bugged me.  This has never happened to me before.  Hattie 
McDaniel - including her name - was kept off of all GWTW movie posters and 
subsequent re-issue posters for 50 years - for reasons we know. She was given 
line-credits only - and her likeness was scrubbed from all promotional 
materials until 1989.  Her likeness didn't even APPEAR on a re-issue poster 
until 1998.  I suppose you can't sell posters featuring Amos and Andy, Birth of 
a Nation nor the Jazz Singer over there either.  Without Hattie, the first 
African-American actor to win an Academy Award - GWTW is a different movie and 
loses its moral center - regardless of how people look at her depiction today.  
To me - she's the smartest character in the movie.

* But apparently - this stuff is selectively enforced by the "community 
standards" police. Because today I stumbled upon the following listing in 
lesser condition than the one I own - which I believe is also in lesser 
condition than the example eMoviePoster sold many months ago for more than $2K.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314909361404

* And no, I don't plan to report this - but I think the whole thing is nutty.  
Parenthetically, the seller's handle is familiar in a way that escapes me now. 
His listing does NOT come up in regular searches over there, e.g., "Gone with 
the Wind program."  It didn't for me, anyway. Maybe if you add the search word, 
"recalled" - it will come up, but otherwise it's not in the general listings. 
Just shaking my head.  No reply necessary, just venting. - d.

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Re: [MOPO] What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?

[David Kusumoto]

Man oh man Greg, I busted a gut reading this!  You and Freeman are the funniest 
dudes on MoPo.  Your post took me back to the 70s through the 90s.  Bought my 
first movie posters at Comic Con where they were folded in boxes on dealer 
tables and sold for $5 bucks - and then I'd go home and TACK THEM TO MY BEDROOM 
WALL WITH FREAKING SCOTCH TAPE!  I used to haunt the movie memorabilia stores 
up in LA constantly.  There used to be an awesome place on Vine north of 
Hollywood Blvd. where I spent hours visiting - I wish I could remember its 
name. It was always crowded.

Meanwhile, I've never bought posters for an investment - but it might come into 
play when I upgrade a title and sell off the "lesser" - and my return would be 
higher or lower, Didn't care.  Among recent titles I used to constantly upgrade 
was the DS Lost in Translation until finally getting one with no dings.

Oh and congrats on your fab UK tour!  Amazing, still rocking concerts for $$$ - 
GLOBALLY.  Can't wait for your book you formerly from San Diego dork.  Say 
hello to a pine tree for me when you get back to Oregon!  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Larry Brooks 
<021723856377-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 4:08 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?

OMG Greg you brought back memories I had forgotten for over 50 years. When 
I was a teenager I used to ride my bike with several friends over to Hollywood 
and hang out at Malcolm Willits' Argosy Bookstore, which also sold posters & 
stills. I drove the poor guy crazy looking at all these wonderful things and he 
would say "Are you going to BUY something today?!" He kicked me out a bunch of 
times and later banned me from his store. Whenever I finished there I would 
walk over to the Cherokee Bookstore and savored many of their posters and 
photos (and bought back issues of Astounding Science Fiction Magazine), and 
from there it was over to the Larry Edmunds Bookshop, where my brother and I 
wound up buying a great deal of posters and stills over the years. They were 
the only ones that had material on our special favorite films. Larry Edmunds 
was evidently good friends with many people in Hollywood and some wound up 
selling their own stills and scripts to his store my god some of the things 
he had were incredible, and at decent prices. Those were the days.

Thanks for conjuring back those memories from the past!

Larry Brooks

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 02:59:06 PM PDT, Greg Douglass 
 wrote:

I bought from Theater Poster Exchange back in the mid-1960s. One sheets were 75 
cents, regardless of title. 8 lobby cards a whopping $2.50.
I went to Hollywood with my family on vacation and visited Malcolm Willits at 
his small store. For ten bucks I bought a one sheet from "The Devil Commands" 
and two lobbies from "A & C Meet Frankenstein". I floated up to the Cherokee 
Bookstore where they had a safe full of fresh AIP posters, unfolded. The rest 
of my allowance disappeared there. (I saved for months for that trip.)

I recently repurchased "The Devil Commands" for 3K (big royalty check). It's 
framed next to Lugosi's "Invisible Ghost" one sheet (I was playing guitar at a 
casino and put 20 bucks into a slot machine. It yielded close to $750. I bought 
it from a Heritage customer as an after-auction buy for...$750.)

We are here for a very short time on this planet. I enjoy every sandwich and my 
posters make me a happy camper. I'll never be able to afford a Universal 
classic poster but my "Attack of the Crab Monsters/Not of This Earth" double 
bill half-sheet (400 clams) takes me back some of the most enjoyable moments of 
my childhood and THAT, my fellow P.D.s, is beyond financial concerns.

Greg Douglass
Heading Home in two days
PS -I have spoken with Claude Litton a few times and he is a wonderful guy. He 
is also quite wealthy and his poster collection is fabulous. We obviously are 
on the same page as far as our obvious love for those magical bits of paper. 
There are happy campers at all levels of Dorkdom.



Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 8:56 PM
From: "Alan Adler" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in 
recent years?
Greg -

You obviously began collecting posters when they had little value and 
collecting them was just a hobby -

There’s still a great deal of entry-level material thanks to Bruce and others -

But does anyone think the hobby may have lost something, now that the game's 
become a sport of the rich?

Alan


On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:49 AM, Greg Douglass  wrote:

Fellow Poster Aficionados;

I remember going to poster shows back in the 90s and seeing these "geezers" 
buying old western posters from the 30s & 40s. "Look at those poor old 
bastards!" I would say to my wife. "Ha! Whoops, there's a 50s 

Re: [MOPO] THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?

[David Kusumoto]

* Sister Mary Frances what in the sam heck are the usual suspects getting into 
a lather about?  Bruce's post was his routine marketing pitch to look at prices 
in his auctions as they are today. Only a person with an intense axe to grind - 
would read Bruce's promotion as an academic dissertation about investments when 
he himself concedes his intent is "self-serving" by saying prices can be less 
than what they were in the past. I read it as there could be good buys, that's 
all - a proxy for his standard reminder that his auctions are closing soon.  
It's not even rhetoric. It's straight up marketing. Not an financial prospectus 
from Suzie Orman or the Fed.

* Only a person with intense animus against Bruce would be triggered to 
re-litigate how movie posters are lousy currency vs. comic books, which 
indirectly insults every person who trades in movie paper - as a sucker who's 
small potatoes compared to him. God forbid if he passes soon with no heirs as 
he admits having gigantic stacks of posters like a hoarder who's gonna run out 
of time.

* Patently obvious to me who's trying to start fights on a MOVIE POSTER 
discussion group - against a figure in our hobby - who NEVER acknowledges his 
existence. Rich's takes about sentimental value not passing through to later 
generations aren't wrong - but his tone drips with ridicule - as if MoPo is 
made up of an ignorant school of fish collecting posters with low asset value - 
compared to "investment success" as he defines it.

* In my view, success isn't defined by asset value. What a person possesses in 
affability or being a mensch every day - matters more than assets you can't 
take with you. In sum, if your intelligence and asset portfolio are a "10" - 
but your personality is a "2," then you're a "2."  It's like surface beauty - a 
depreciating asset. Only the affluent can afford to upgrade / trade-out beauty 
for something "newer" - until their time runs out - or they lose interest 
entirely. - d.

---

Meanwhile, switching gears from the aforementioned unpleasantness. * Just got 
Walter Reuben's latest catalog online. Spectacular.  Among its many beauties - 
is an 8 x 10 still from 1930 featuring Bogart prominently in a publicity shot - 
despite being in a supporting role.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9985/wFvJDK.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]
Walter's latest catalog is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jSFCQ_FkaM5AzRXX5zwhHvhgMdNRMozx/view?pli=1

* Also kudos to the recent gallery updates from Matt McCarthy,
https://filmartgallery.com/collections/vintage-movie-posters-halloween-2023

* Helmut Hamm,
https://www.filmposter.net/en/new-additions/

* ...and John Hazleton.
https://www.filmposters.com/results.cfm?search=newarrivals

-d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Richard Halegua 
MPB.auction 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:03 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can 
I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?


purchases in collectibles that result in investments are serendipitous, and 
myself I never collected posters for anything other than spiritual investment

I only find it funny when people say something is a good investment and then 
pointing out why they've been a terrible investment. It was just rhetoric of 
course, but certainly not well thought out message.


as to Forbidden Planet.. Randy Ringenberg had a very nicely backed one at the 
Columbus show for just $6500 and it did not sell. I don't think it will get 
down to 1500, but there may still be some savings to come. Maybe by then you 
can just use some of your dividends, instead of putting them into the 
reinvestment program for a month and not sell any shares ;-)


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Johnson Tom 

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 8:37 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can 
I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?

Well..as a collector, I couldn't be happier that prices have stalled out. In 50 
years I have never bought a poster as an investment, unless I found an 
incredible deal that could help me roll it over into something I wanted. I'd be 
thrilled if the bottom fell completely out of the market. With my finances and 
collecting field I can only afford to buy a couple of posters a year--if prices 
dumped further I'd be all over it. I've thoroughly enjoyed selling off my other 
collectibles that did jump way up in value and using that money to buy movie 
posters. If posters are an investment to you...guess you shoulda bought Apple 
at $35 and Amazon at $76 instead of Maltese Falcon at $67,000. oops. I did both 
of the former. Can't wait to sell my shares for for Forbidden Planet at $1500.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Richard Halegua 
MPB.auction 
Sent: Wednesday, October 

Re: [MOPO] Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

But you are, Allen!  I use a full keyboard and just rattled off random names of 
people with whom I've written to or received personal notes from.  John Reid 
and John Hazelton and Alan Adler and Allen Day and a whole host of others like 
Tom and Sue and Greg and Kirb, pretty much the same group including the gallery 
owners like Sam and Matt.  I miss Adrian Cowdry the most perhaps because his 
emails were a riot.  I've long patched up my issues with the dealers from the 
late 90s and early 2000s who just couldn't stand my MCW-length essays but there 
are still a lot of people (nearly all dealers) - who aren't shy telling me I'm 
full of s### every time I show up.  Cheers!

From: allen day 
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 5:42 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Not responding

By the by .. you spelled my name incorrectly

A-L-L-E-N, not Alan

(aaand yes, I know I am not the guy mentioned in your post)

ad

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:00 AM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
* Well considering that Peter is the founder of MoviePosterExchange, of course 
he'd prefer that none of these complaints were brought up publicly in the first 
place. I didn't. Others did.  And of course he - and you, the owner of 
MoviePosterBid<https://www.mpb.auction/auctions/> - prefer that only people 
with complaints should talk about this - (in public) - while everyone else 
should keep their mouths shut.  Well, that's not gonna happen so long as you 
keep stringing things out with insults - over what I thought was a done deal.

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* But guess what, you're not a complainant either. You're just an amicus brief 
for "aggrieved" merchants - while I see myself as being a friend to both 
customers AND merchants - armed with far less poison.  So your involvement, 
your whole line of argument is beyond contradictory - because it's a line 
travels a complete circle back to yourself, and you have a blind spot so big 
that you can't even see it.

* I've got no beef with Peter and regard him highly, at least compared to his 
former biz partner back in the day who had a promo for a famous Fritz Lang 
3-sheet that was seized shortly after it went up. I should have probably shut 
up about that too, huh.  Not my place, right?  But ok for the Hollywood
Reporter and other news outlets to chime in. *shrug*



* Meanwhile, you should clean up your own house of cards in relation to movie 
poster auctions - before defending or slagging the operations of any poster 
re-seller you love or hate. Your incessant defecation of movie posters as a 
terrible investment collectible in relation to other collectibles - is YOUR 
trademark message, at least compared to your stock in trade, i.e., comics. You 
never stop making this point - betwixt and between commenting on the news of 
the day as if you're Paul Krugman or Wm. F. Buckley. OK, point made, we get it, 
along with your over-use of the word, "analog" to compare different categories 
of collectibles like some high-falutin' art professor at Columbia. Don't really 
disagree.

* You may have 40-60 years expertise as a hustler / salesman - but your public 
slagging of posters only arrives after several sputtering / failed 
merry-go-rounds on your part - trying to make a go of posters as a profitable 
auction enterprise for yourself.  Hence the reason why the "auction" portion of 
your creation, movieposterbid.com<https://www.mpb.auction/auctions/> - is a 
moribund reminder of that failure.  It's a fixed price site today - with no 
auctions for, well, maybe as long as three years now.  Guess there's no need to 
update that page.  There's always hope.

* Unlike the Bruces, the Greys, the two Johns, the Helmuts, the Sams, the Kirbs 
and Alans and Dales and on-and-on - (sorry to drag you guys into this but you 
are who I trust, no need to respond) - who continue to co-exist with great 
reputations among customers AND with fellow merchants. *Mensches all.*



* I know what people say about me is not complimentary. But when you're gonna 
die sooner rather than later, fewer years ahead than behind - you don't really 
care.  I do try to be fair.

* But I don't think you yourself really KNOWS what people say about you - and 
if you do - you likely wear your short-fuse temper like a self-hating badge of 
honor. You can't stop getting personal in your writing, in my view projecting 
an aura that suggests that you see yourself as a Tony Soprano hit-man or a 
self-appointed MoPo policeman - (a job that only belongs to Scott Burns) - to 
counterpoint or to kill anyone who disagrees by pounding them into tomorrow. So 
I'm trying that playbook in response to your latest insult to see how it feels 
- trying to not sound too crass.

* In my view, your rude articulation skills have never been 

Re: [MOPO] Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

r other opinions - even when contrarian opinions belong to merchants who are 
ALSO customers afflicted. I've no dog in this squabble otherwise. You could 
also make the case of staying quiet.  You did not.  Nor did I.  I think you 
jumped in only because I did first.

* I snickered when you bragged that you've been so helpful - while conceding 
you "can only do much" from your Vegas outpost. You humble-brag elsewhere about 
making millions - but you know, you really can't help anyone, really, even your 
friends - the flag you waved in your last post.

* So to me, what have you done?  Your help falls well short of my example when 
I tried - (but also failed) - to rescue Carol Tincup before she died - when she 
had similar issues falling behind trying to deliver services she promised - for 
which she took up-front deposits - but went silent and responded to NO ONE - 
even after her customers complained in public. Friend or not, I advised fellow 
merchants and collectors to hold off sending stuff until she cleared her 
backlog. If I knew how Jason operates, how his day unfolds - I might say the 
same but won't - because I don't.  I was just reflecting about customer 
complaints that go public when there are plenty of warning flags that go up 
well before they become "public knowledge."  This doesn't preclude me or ANYONE 
from weighing in about customer service issues - which can impact a small 
business's reputation and a client's dollars.



* I'm just bluster and words, a lowly member of the "peanut gallery," as you 
put it.  And in my view you're hardly MoPo's version of Joan of Arc, 
sacrificing yourself at the stake as if you're some titan, some noble dude - 
using your body and rep as a shield against interlopers like me - as if they 
need it, as if they can't speak for themselves, when I'm not parrying anyone 
with aggression like you routinely do.  Now you're doing it against me, a dude 
who's likely ALSO been around a helluva lot longer than you've been alive. You 
really think I'm clueless after nearly 30 years on MoPo.

* In sum - just three final words (maybe) - for you:

"You poor thing."

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From: MoPo List  on behalf of sales comic-art.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 2:25 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

thanks Peter,  and of course it's a fair point
Tommy Barr has a fair complaint, Sam has a fair complaint. David has no 
complaint.

Jason is having trouble. I've tried helping him some, but I can only help so 
much from here. I hope he can get out from under. But you can be sure when some 
braying jackass comes out berating him, and with that "you owe the movie poster 
hobby Mister", that's baloney.

Jason doesn't owe anything to anyone other than the people who are buyers, or 
consignors and most especially to himself. Other people should indeed mind 
their own business

Jason can & will fix his own problems and shouldn't be dragged by some third 
party buttinsky, and when some sniveling simp is going to drag my friend, I'm 
going to speak up. David's childish reply only shows how much of a sniveling 
simp he is

shut up David. mind your own business


From: peter contarino 
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 10:18 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Not responding

I am not defending Jason or Rich but it seems to me that Rich makes a fair 
point.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 3:43 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

* To suggest you should not weigh in on any controversy surfacing on a public 
forum - unless you yourself are directly impacted - suppresses opinions from 
members who have no stake in the outcome - or - that you yourself are a 
stakeholder.

* However frowned upon, all members - myself and others below this post 
included - can weigh in - or not. I'm not from the school that says people 
should shut up unless they're personally aggrieved. That view - suggests some 
are taking sides anyway even when they say they're not.

* I strongly believe disputes which go public - ALWAYS occur as a last resort - 
after weeks or months of frustration KNOWN by all parties.  Does anyone doubt 
this?  We hear publicly from the merchant being queried - only AFTER a second 
customer this week weighs in more forcefully than about being ghosted.



* 헜 혁헿혆 혃헲헿혆 헵헮헿헱 혁헼 헯헲 헳헮헶헿. Below was the first time I weighed on this 
merchant whose name has surfaced not once, but multiple times in 2023 alone. If 
it happens once, no one cares. Happens twice, maybe some concern. Three times 
or more - that's a potential "pattern" linked to health or other issues beyond 
anyone's control. Or maybe not.

* Merchants know this whe

Re: [MOPO] Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

* To suggest you should not weigh in on any controversy surfacing on a public 
forum - unless you yourself are directly impacted - suppresses opinions from 
members who have no stake in the outcome - or - that you yourself are a 
stakeholder.

* However frowned upon, all members - myself and others below this post 
included - can weigh in - or not. I'm not from the school that says people 
should shut up unless they're personally aggrieved. That view - suggests some 
are taking sides anyway even when they say they're not.

* I strongly believe disputes which go public - ALWAYS occur as a last resort - 
after weeks or months of frustration KNOWN by all parties.  Does anyone doubt 
this?  We hear publicly from the merchant being queried - only AFTER a second 
customer this week weighs in more forcefully than about being ghosted.



* 헜 혁헿혆 혃헲헿혆 헵헮헿헱 혁헼 헯헲 헳헮헶헿. Below was the first time I weighed on this 
merchant whose name has surfaced not once, but multiple times in 2023 alone. If 
it happens once, no one cares. Happens twice, maybe some concern. Three times 
or more - that's a potential "pattern" linked to health or other issues beyond 
anyone's control. Or maybe not.

* Merchants know this when a customer refuses to pay and has a history of 
ghosting other merchants. Just because they're stellar for you - doesn't mean 
they've been stellar for everyone. Customers know this too - when they pay or 
query a merchant and discover later that they're not alone receiving less than 
satisfactory responses, presuming they get any.



* Remember the Carol Tincup issue (RIP)? She was a great restorer. Numerous 
dealers and customers wrote on MoPo about non-delivery of their posters.

* No one was explaining broadly - what was going on. So I did because I dealt 
with her. She had one of my items for more than a year but I stayed quiet about 
it - because I wanted it back and felt she could still do it. We spoke on the 
phone a lot. She had knee problems.  Customers took their complaints to MoPo 
not knowing this.  I did not know until other clients brought her up on MoPo - 
that I wasn't the only person waiting to hear from her.

* I told her that she needs to tell people her situation, that people are 
forgiving about everything except intentional silence, that she is risking her 
reputation in our small community. When people go public like this, it can mean 
that others are seeing just the tip of an iceberg.  I was extremely 
sympathetic.  In my last emails and voice mails to her - I begged her to take 
my damage control advice. I spent an entire week leaving her messages.  She 
ghosted me.  At that moment, I wrote off in my head that what she had that was 
mine - was a complete loss.

* It was only then - that I issued my public "opinion" - that people should 
hold off sending her more stuff until her backlog was cleared and her ongoing 
problems with merchants were resolved.  I only found out she was angry with me 
- when my unfinished poster and a refund arrived in the mail 2 weeks later.  I 
called her instantly. She had blocked my number.  She refused to see that while 
there are two sides to everything - that ghosting causes people to think worst 
case scenarios. She had good reasons for her backlog.  But via MoPo I 
discovered she had many customers waiting months to hear ANYTHING from her who 
were in the dark.  I knew why but others didn't.  I didn't think that was fair. 
 I wasn't going to write individual emails to every complainant.



* There is no such thing as a convenient time to have such problems. Anyone who 
goes public with them - has likely thought about the consequences of asking 
others "out loud" - if they know what's going on. And someone in the 
"community" knows - even if they won't say. I bet there is someone besides the 
merchant in question who knows - but isn't saying - or is contacting people 
looking for answers privately.

* That's what this group does best.  And sometimes public opinions from others 
- is the cheapest solution to group-think inertia.


From: peter contarino 
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 10:18 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Not responding

I am not defending Jason or Rich but it seems to me that Rich makes a fair 
point.

________
From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 9:16 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

Huh, odd to get a public insult from a lonely life form that writes like it 
goes to bed each night with spasms of self-loathing, chewing on its own spine.  
-d.


From: sales comic-art.com 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 8:00 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ; David Kusumoto 

Subject: Re: Not responding

so do you have any unfinished business with Jason, or are you jus

Re: [MOPO] Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

Huh, odd to get a public insult from a lonely life form that writes like it 
goes to bed each night with spasms of self-loathing, chewing on its own spine.  
-d.


From: sales comic-art.com 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 8:00 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ; David Kusumoto 

Subject: Re: Not responding

so do you have any unfinished business with Jason, or are you just the peanut 
gallery mouthing off again?


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 6:30 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Addendum - Not responding

ADDENDUM to Friday, September 29, 2023 6:03 PM PT post:  BTW, I didn't mean to 
imply that only merchants are at fault.  There are customers who abuse their 
relationship with merchants - and feedback extortion or "give me what I want or 
else" threats do occur.  There are customers who are never satisfied unless 
they get their money back AND push to keep items they don't want - and - on top 
of that they want more $$ to compensate for their mental anguish or some other 
vague aggravation.  Word can and should spread about customers who are 
persistent headaches - as a "subjective advisory" for others on both sides of 
the seller and buyer equation.  It's why a customer or merchant who complains 
in public - can be countered with customers / merchants who describe "stellar 
experiences."  Yelp is not always a reliable forum to get a true picture of 
performance - nor is MoPo - but if patterns surface more than a few times among 
diverse customers and merchants - then that's what they are, "patterns." - d.

-Original comment below-

How about responding to the whole group as well - to avoid adverse consequences 
to your business model in relation to the 250+ members of the MoPo group?

The following is my opinion and not necessarily fact:

When people use any public forum to resolve issues, it's almost ALWAYS the 
course of last resort.  It means unresolved issues have been festering for 
weeks, months or even longer.

When a customer or customers go public - it's because they're on the edge of 
desperation.  And if the merchant in question responds with something like - 
"We apologize for the delay and someone will get back to you tomorrow" - well, 
that has about as much credibility as saying, "the check is in the mail" or "I 
never got any of your messages."

* If delays are due to family or health issues which can't be helped, people 
are very forgiving up to a point.

But if service / delivery issues recur and are spread across more than 1-2 
customers who say "yeah, me too" - a merchant then loses control of his or her 
story and any effort to resolve problems one-on-one - go out the window.  The 
problems convert into something broader that involves staying liquid and saving 
the business over reputational issues beyond a merchant's control - because 
future potential customers - are now likely to pause before forking over future 
dollars for services reported as being undelivered or being unsatisfactory.  
Meanwhile, other customers in limbo - will stay quiet - because they want their 
money back - and if they do - they eventually join the "never again" 
bad-word-of-mouth campaign that spreads like wildfire.   This is why a damn 
good explanation is required that makes sense.

* Merchants who feel targeted - understand this principle better when the 
tables are turned.  For example, you send me $300 for a flat-panel TV and I 
convert it quickly into cash and I then cancel my accounts to block future 
charge backs / refunds - and then ghost a pile of voice mails from people 
asking, "Sorry to bother you but why the delay?"  The aforementioned is 
hyperbole, but customers and merchants aren't mind-readers - and worst case 
scenarios pop into their heads, even if they're off.  But if you heard that I 
have more than 1-2 customers griping about my services or products - even 
politely - you're unlikely to think too much of my reliability score.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Jason Edgerley 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 4:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

Yes the website is down and trying to remedy the problem and get orders out.
Todd and Tommy I will be in touch tomorrow.

On Sep 29, 2023, at 7:24 PM, Todd Feiertag  wrote:
"...is anyone having problems with movieposterexchange?"

HA!!  I paid for several items last April and NEVER received them.

I've emailed Jason at least three times.  He originally responded that he would 
send them out after he got back from the Columbus show on Memorial Day Weekend 
but that never happened.

Emailed him several times afterwords with NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER!!

I just checked and now it looks like the website is down.

Not sure if it's 

Re: [MOPO] Addendum - Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

ADDENDUM to Friday, September 29, 2023 6:03 PM PT post:  BTW, I didn't mean to 
imply that only merchant's are at fault.  There are customers who abuse their 
relationship with merchants - and feedback extortion or "give me what I want or 
else" threats do occur.  There are customers who are never satisfied unless 
they get their money back AND push to keep items they don't want - and - on top 
of that they want more $$ to compensate for their mental anguish or some other 
vague aggravation.  Word can and should spread about customers who are 
persistent headaches as an "subjective advisory" for others on both sides of 
the seller and buyer equation.  It's why a customer or merchant who complains 
in public - can be countered with customers / merchants who describe "stellar 
experiences."  Yelp is not always a reliable forum to get a true picture of 
performance - nor is MoPo - but if patterns surface more than a few times among 
diverse customers and merchants - they're are what they are, "patterns." - d.

-Original comment below-

How about responding to the whole group as well - to avoid adverse consequences 
to your business model in relation to the 250+ members of the MoPo group?

The following is my opinion and not necessarily fact:

When people use any public forum to resolve issues, it's almost ALWAYS the 
course of last resort.  It means unresolved issues have been festering for 
weeks, months or even longer.

When a customer or customers go public - it's because they're on the edge of 
desperation.  And if the merchant in question responds with something like - 
"We apologize for the delay and someone will get back to you tomorrow" - well, 
that has about as much credibility as saying, "the check is in the mail" or "I 
never got any of your messages."

* If delays are due to family or health issues which can't be helped, people 
are very forgiving up to a point.

But if service / delivery issues recur and are spread across more than 1-2 
customers who say "yeah, me too" - a merchant then loses control of his or her 
story and any effort to resolve problems one-on-one - go out the window.  The 
problems convert into something broader that involves staying liquid and saving 
the business over reputational issues beyond a merchant's control - because 
future potential customers - are now likely to pause before forking over future 
dollars for services reported as being undelivered or being unsatisfactory.  
Meanwhile, other customers in limbo - will stay quiet - because they want their 
money back - and if they do - they eventually join the "never again" 
bad-word-of-mouth campaign that spreads like wildfire.   This is why a damn 
good explanation is required that makes sense.

* Merchants who feel targeted - understand this principle better when the 
tables are turned.  For example, you send me $300 for a flat-panel TV and I 
convert it quickly into cash and I then cancel my accounts to block future 
charge backs / refunds - and then ghost a pile of voice mails from people 
asking, "Sorry to bother you but why the delay?"  The aforementioned is 
hyperbole, but customers and merchants aren't mind-readers - and worst case 
scenarios pop into their heads, even if they're off.  But if you heard that I 
have more than 1-2 customers griping about my services or products - even 
politely - you're unlikely to think too much of my reliability score.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Jason Edgerley 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 4:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

Yes the website is down and trying to remedy the problem and get orders out.
Todd and Tommy I will be in touch tomorrow.

On Sep 29, 2023, at 7:24 PM, Todd Feiertag  wrote:
"...is anyone having problems with movieposterexchange?"

HA!!  I paid for several items last April and NEVER received them.

I've emailed Jason at least three times.  He originally responded that he would 
send them out after he got back from the Columbus show on Memorial Day Weekend 
but that never happened.

Emailed him several times afterwords with NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER!!

I just checked and now it looks like the website is down.

Not sure if it's too late to dispute the charge as it's been 5 months now but I 
plan on doing that with my credit card company.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tommy Barr 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 7:17 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: [MOPO] Not responding

I had hoped that it wouldn't be necessary to ask this again, but is anyone 
having problems with movieposterexchange?

Tommy


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Re: [MOPO] Not responding

[David Kusumoto]

How about responding to the whole group as well - to avoid adverse consequences 
to your business model in relation to the 250+ members of the MoPo group?

The following is my opinion and not necessarily fact:

When people use any public forum to resolve issues, it's almost ALWAYS the 
course of last resort.  It means unresolved issues have been festering for 
weeks, months or even longer.

When a customer or customers go public - it's because they're on the edge of 
desperation.  And if the merchant in question responds with something like - 
"We apologize for the delay and someone will get back to you tomorrow" - well, 
that has about as much credibility as saying, "the check is in the mail" or "I 
never got any of your messages."

* If delays are due to family or health issues which can't be helped, people 
are very forgiving up to a point.

But if service / delivery issues recur and are spread across more than 1-2 
customers who say "yeah, me too" - a merchant then loses control of his or her 
story and any effort to resolve problems one-on-one - go out the window.  The 
problems convert into something broader that involves staying liquid and saving 
the business over reputational issues beyond a merchant's control - because 
future potential customers - are now likely to pause before forking over future 
dollars for services reported as being undelivered or being unsatisfactory.  
Meanwhile, other customers in limbo - will stay quiet - because they want their 
money back - and if they do - they eventually join the "never again" 
bad-word-of-mouth campaign that spreads like wildfire.   This is why a damn 
good explanation is required that makes sense.

* Merchants who feel targeted - understand this principle better when the 
tables are turned.  For example, you send me $300 for a flat-panel TV and I 
convert it quickly into cash and I then cancel my accounts to block future 
charge backs / refunds - and then ghost a pile of voice mails from people 
asking, "Sorry to bother you but why the delay?"  The aforementioned is 
hyperbole, but customers and merchants aren't mind-readers - and worst case 
scenarios pop into their heads, even if they're off.  But if you heard that I 
have more than 1-2 customers griping about my services or products - even 
politely - you're unlikely to think too much of my reliability score.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Jason Edgerley 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 4:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not responding

Yes the website is down and trying to remedy the problem and get orders out.
Todd and Tommy I will be in touch tomorrow.

On Sep 29, 2023, at 7:24 PM, Todd Feiertag  wrote:
"...is anyone having problems with movieposterexchange?"

HA!!  I paid for several items last April and NEVER received them.

I've emailed Jason at least three times.  He originally responded that he would 
send them out after he got back from the Columbus show on Memorial Day Weekend 
but that never happened.

Emailed him several times afterwords with NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER!!

I just checked and now it looks like the website is down.

Not sure if it's too late to dispute the charge as it's been 5 months now but I 
plan on doing that with my credit card company.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tommy Barr 

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 7:17 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: [MOPO] Not responding

I had hoped that it wouldn't be necessary to ask this again, but is anyone 
having problems with movieposterexchange?

Tommy


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Re: [MOPO] What was the most grueling high rated movie you have watched?

[David Kusumoto]

This has come up before but my answer is always the same.  "Platoon" in 1986 
and "Natural Born Killers" in 1994.  Haven't paid to see an Oliver Stone film 
since. Meanwhile, the only film I "fell asleep" through was Peter Jackson's 
"Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King" from 2003.  It won 11 Oscars and 
Best Picture but I couldn't hang with it.  I went back a few days later.  Not 
grueling but I felt it won because they had to give to him. Scorsese's "Hugo" 
from 2011 was another snooze-fest for me.  I went with a childhood buddy to see 
that who trusts my film instincts - and afterward he was trying to be nice and 
said the film had great special effects.  I said, "Knock it off. It was boring. 
 He should stick to crime movies because it's the only genre he excels at." - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Bruce Hershenson 

Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 5:38 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: What was the most grueling high rated movie you have watched?

I think I have you all topped! In the 1970s I was a major international film 
fan, and I traveled far and wide to see films that would never play where I 
lived (no video yet, of course). An example is that in 1981 or so I traveled to 
Los Angeles for a day and a night to see the restored 1927 Napoleon with a full 
orchestra (conducted by Coppola's father) and it was one of the best 
experiences of my life.

So in 1983 a theater in Philadephia announced that they would show the uncut 3 
hour 22 minute Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles I had read 
about this movie, and it sounded terrible, but some critics had highly praised 
it, so I convinced a fellow film buff to go with me.

"Grueling" is a good word to describe watching, but a better one would be 
"excrutiating". But my friend kept saying, "Surely it will get more 
interesting", so we stayed to the end, but it never did. If I was told I had  3 
hours and 22 minutes left to live, I would choose to re-watch this movie, 
because then it would feel like years had gone by!

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On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 3:49 PM Rick Payne 
<023deebf4881-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
 wrote:
"Grueling" might not be the word for the film itself, but the experience 
certainly was.

It's 1968; I'm 13 and living in central Kansas.  Forry Ackerman's Famous 
Monsters magazine has fostered my infatuation with the great Lon Chaney but 
I've never seen one of his films.  Lo, the heavens open and I learn that a 
local college will be running "Hunchback of Notre Dame."  My dad finally agrees 
to drop me off at the college for the 8 pm showing and I'm to call him when 
it's over.

Unfortunately, they are showing an 8mm print on 400 foot reels using a single 
projector.  After every reel, they turn on the lights and rewind before showing 
the next one.  Naturally, old splices periodically fail and the film breaks or 
burns multiple times.  Each incident requires immediate repair; lights on; 
another delay.  The Hunchback will take about 3 1/2 hours to run. 
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the finish.

You see, I didn't realize that "Hunchback" was to be the second feature of the 
night ... after "Birth of a Nation."  Dad showed up around 1 in the morning, 
mad as a hornet that I hadn't called.  Well, the film wasn't over!  The judge 
refused to let me off on that technicality and it would be a couple more years 
before I saw the rest of the film.

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 10:38:11 AM EDT, Tony Calvert 
mailto:tonycalvert...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I just had to check a print of "A LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT."  It seemed to 
drag on forever.  I like good character studies, but this seemed to never end.  
The only good thing is that it was a shorter version, the bad part is the 
collection has 2 more prints.  If I ever hear a fog horn I will go into a deep 
depression.


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[MOPO] Bruce Hershenson won't retire until at least Dec. 2025

[David Kusumoto]

Bruce Hershenson won't retire until at least Dec. 2025

Bruce Hershenson commits to running eMoviePoster through 2025.

(EDIT: While Bruce posted a portion of his announcement a little while ago - 
here's what I was drafting after getting eMoviePoster's latest comprehensive 
email that was sent separately to collectors and consignors about his 
operations. The following is just my opinion, not necessarily factual.)



For the first time, Bruce Hershenson, 70, has committed to a date that he says 
he'll continue to run the company he built 33 years ago. That date is 30 months 
from now (December 31, 2025).

While his statement is not etched in stone and acknowledges that he could 
change his mind, in my view, the announcement does three (3) things, in no 
particular order:

1) It gives him the option to exit the business - depending upon how he feels 
at the end of 2025, when he will be 73 years old.

2) It reveals a strong marketing incentive to alert collectors / dealers of a 
certain age - that he plans to accept consignments over the next 2 1/2 years, 
barring health or other unforeseen emergencies - and - if they have plans to 
eventually sell their collections via his consignment schedules / operations - 
that they should think seriously about this sooner rather than later. (His 
company only accepts items which have an individual retail value at or above 
$30.  Note: There is no longer any retail minimum $200-300 value requirement - 
per consignment "package / tube" received.  Each item must simply carry a 
retail value at or above $30.)

3) It confirms all of the hints he's made during the past 5-7 years - via his 
newsletters and on social media - about fearing chronic burn-out - while 
desiring to write his book and taking more vacations with family members - 
which had been near impossible until recently - because of gigantic workloads 
associated with curating, assembling, invoicing, shipping and maintaining the 
pace of his company's auctions - which at their peak - had been held three 
times a week, every week - instead of his company's current schedule of three 
times a week, every four weeks.

Salient quotes:

* "After 12/31/25 . . . .I MAY continue longer, or I MAY turn the business over 
to the employees, or I MAY look for a buyer for it, or I MAY close it down."

* "AFTER 30 months from now, do those of you with a house (or a warehouse) full 
of items have a "Plan B"?  And please don't tell me that your plan is to let 
your heirs worry about how to deal with your stuff after you are gone. That 
often works out terribly, and sometimes whole collections are literally 
trashed."

* "Over and over the past few years, very long time collectors with huge 
collections have told me that "we need to have a talk one of these days" 
because they need to make a plan on how they will deal with their collection. 
That time has now come."

* "Maybe a new auction like ours will emerge down the line that offers a 
reasonable alternative to auctioning through us. I hope that occurs. But for 
right now, I feel that what I say above makes a massive amount of sense for 
those of you who are in an age bracket (or a point in your life or collecting) 
where you want and need to do something with your collection sooner than later."



Meanwhile, a personal note. While I never had a blue-chip collection of horror 
pieces or ultra-rare items - I once had a collection of very attractive titles 
- more than 99% of which I consigned to eMoviePoster. Many things go into the 
equation of deciding when is the "right time" to consign - including, in my 
case, advancing age and creeping health issues, intermittent cash flow 
concerns, aggravations over wildfire evacuations and the vulnerability of my 
collection going up in flames or drenched by burst pipes or floods - and - 
never wanting to leave anything on the table should I croak tomorrow.

But another REAL concern (for me) - which I brought up publicly in the past - 
was Bruce's impending retirement - freeing him up to do the things he talks 
about a lot when he's not talking about posters, e.g., vacations and writing 
his book. When he survived heart surgery many years ago - I surveyed the 
landscape and thought - there are few places that will accept the 
low-to-mid-range material I used to own, not just posters - but also my once 
vast lobby card and press kit collection which I rarely bring up here. In the 
nearly 30 years since MoPo began, so many names have come and gone - and I 
didn't want to be among the names with big estates to liquidate - by 
beneficiaries who don't share the same sentiment for the things I own or used 
to own.

This is why I no longer own the posters I used to say - that I would never 
relinquish. Other than one poster that isn't a five-figure blue-chipper that my 
wife remains irritated with me that I let out the door - I have no regrets. 
It's like a giant weight has been lifted off of my shoulders so I can relax. I 
still 

Re: [MOPO] Auction winnings

[David Kusumoto]

Bruce is the gold standard about being transparent about every aspect in the 
buyer and seller equation - no guessing.  He also has a skill that he doesn't 
get enough credit for - which is calming nervous consignors about how their 
submissions will be handled and the potential risks involved if they have a set 
number they're stuck on.  Maybe now's NOT the right time, maybe it is, etc., no 
pressure.  His no reserve policy probably scares some people which is why the 
other houses will get the pieces only the rich can afford - but they don't get 
all of 'em.  His major sales still feature great items that WILL sell - hence 
they generate tons of traffic.  He routinely sends advisories to winners about 
each step, e.g., to not expect their items right away (unless they're willing 
to pay extra).   Every item is packed so solidly that his tubes and materials 
double as baseball bats / brown paper cut knives for people to carry while 
strolling through dodgy areas in any random city.

Most of all - he is a master at MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, e.g., getting ahead of 
hiccups before people have a chance to query them in public.  This is why I 
RARELY see people on MoPo or on FB asking, "Hey, has anyone gotten their 
winnings yet from Bruce's auction three weeks ago?"  Grey is next on my awesome 
tree and he had a stellar debut at Propstore - so happy for him.  The touch he 
refined at Heritage is now in LA and that's great.  And as far as contemporary 
release posters - Dale Dilts is my guy, e.g. first rate condition, super dealer 
for those of us who still buy posters as gifts - or as outright bribes for 
vulnerable elected officials with kids who are into fads.  These are just 
opinions and if I wrote any more I could list about 10 other names of people I 
consider solid.  (Looking at you Sue Heim and Walter Reuben and Helmut.)

That's all for now and BTW, Freeman Fisher - have really missed your 
contributions, hilarious as ever.  You and Greg Douglass and Kirby should take 
your act on the road. I never tire of retelling your story attending an advance 
MGM screening of "2001" back in 1968. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Freeman Fisher 
<0016869468b6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 7:18 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Auction winnings


MOPOers
Okay I need to weigh in on this mild kerfluffel regarding Prop Store, shipping 
charges etc.
All of you know I work at Goldberg Coins and Collectible as the Director of the 
division.  It’s my baby and that includes collections and shipping.
The challenges are huge and besides myself there are three others.
First bringing the auction to market, it’s never easy and it’s exhausting. Then 
two to three weeks later its auction time (in my case usually two days, may be 
three this July it got so huge)

The first issue is reconciling the auction and sending invoices.  We can’t 
automate by single lots because 85% of bidders buy more than one item.  It 
could be Laurel & Hardy signed photo and a guitar signed by the Bee Gees.  How 
can any computer anticipate accurately shipping or whether possible to combine? 
 That is a manually configured challenge.

Then billing,  dealing with a lot of new folks.   We have been burned so many 
times by card fraud  we like to wait three days with a card before shipping to 
see if rejected. It happens a lot.   Those are frequently easy to ferret out 
because they are always desperate to have  the item sent because it’s a 
birthday  present for the wife (really?  A Civil War rifle?)  So I have had to 
start actually doing this on the dozen or so suspicious bidders,,,

I Google their damn residence.  I swear it works but its time consuming. Great 
example last auction, two 18k gold bracelets, a fast talker and kept calling to 
have immediately shipped.  I Googled his shipping address and it was a bombed 
out trailer park in Baton Rouge with a blue tarp covering half of his roof.   
Busted

But all of these payments and special demands come to the fore.  It’s Summer,  
people travel, so a mix of can you hold shipping until such date, can you ship 
where I will be fishing etc. etc.  And that becomes an additional challenge in 
that if they are out of state, we have to adjust the invoice to remove CA sales 
tax, but possibly increase their shipping

There are so many variables.  Also understand with each day and avalanche of 
payments are being called in, wire transferred etc. but the plates spinning to 
get those paid shipped as carefully as possible are happening at the same time.

Every auction house knows the value of keeping their clients happy and I 
promise you every one of them bust their asses to make any issue right.  
Realizing the steps involved especially in auctions as large as Heritage, Prop 
Store, Bruce’s most certainly (which is a gold standard I shoot foe) might be 
worth a consideration.   I am going to have probably 1200 lots my 

Re: [MOPO] Goodfellas daybill insert frame "hack."

[David Kusumoto]

A week late getting back to this for a follow-up but in the images below, you 
can see what happens when a collector ages and sells off his posters - but 
can't quite reclaim the walls, recycling old frames instead of buying new ones 
- which once contained expensive vintage beauties - but which now house cheaper 
/ newer posters, trying to fool lay people that all sizes are uniform.  Yeah it 
looks tacky and the newer pics are a little out of focus, but you get the idea. 
 (There are even a couple of repros I partially cropped out that are in larger 
size WC frames.) - d.

THEN

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6022/p3aTzn.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

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==
NOW   

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8030/TKMvy2.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3664/FyyAEF.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]

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From: peter contarino 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:32 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Goodfellas daybill insert frame "hack."

David I have done that and it works well.

I found this place awhile back and they have really nice wood frames cut to 
size and the prices are amazing.

https://www.arttoframe.com/13x30-Satin-Black-picture-frame/FRBW26079?page_type=E

-Peter

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:11 PM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Has anyone else done similar?  Australian daybills are among my favs - esp. 
titles for which no USA inserts were made, usually post-1983. I've recycled a 
number of insert frames made by Sue Heim - and depending upon the background, 
I'll use black or different color paper to "cover" the white backer board 
underneath and let the poster float inside. (Personal preference - I've never 
used a matte to "frame" posters a second time inside the frame - because paper 
expands/contracts.)  For "Goodfellas" - I like the daybill format more than the 
DS one-sheet I used to own, e.g., its composition, slightly deeper colors plus 
it's more affordable - although the last one sold by Bruce fetched about $200.  
(This one is going out the door soon as I'm upgrading condition.) -d.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8482/Nhz95Y.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6682/nhGKlW.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

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Re: [MOPO] Not movies, but Broadway

[David Kusumoto]

It's one thing to finance / produce a costly musical - it's quite another to 
bring it to Broadway and then be feted with a bunch of Tony nominations.  
Congratulations, Doug!  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Toochis r 

Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 10:54 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not movies, but Broadway

Wow, Doug!  CONGRATULATIONS

It’s so hard to get a show off the ground. Let alone a Broadway one. I love the 
music and am so excited for you!

Toochis

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 6:58 AM Douglas B Taylor 
mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Tony nominations came out today.  Parade had 6 nominations, for what is a 
heartbreaking true story, with gorgeous, gorgeous music.

I bring it up because it is my first foray into Broadway Producing.  I'm only a 
small, baby Producer, but nevertheless, a Producer of a Tony nominated musical.

Go see it!!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.etonline.com/tony-awards-2023-see-the-complete-list-of-nominees-203485%3famp


Regards



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From: MoPo List  on behalf of Toochis r 

Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 10:54 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Not movies, but Broadway

Wow, Doug!  CONGRATULATIONS

It’s so hard to get a show off the ground. Let alone a Broadway one. I love the 
music and am so excited for you!

Toochis

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 6:58 AM Douglas B Taylor 
mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Tony nominations came out today.  Parade had 6 nominations, for what is a 
heartbreaking true story, with gorgeous, gorgeous music.

I bring it up because it is my first foray into Broadway Producing.  I'm only a 
small, baby Producer, but nevertheless, a Producer of a Tony nominated musical.

Go see it!!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.etonline.com/tony-awards-2023-see-the-complete-list-of-nominees-203485%3famp


Regards



Doug



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Re: [MOPO] MOPO- still alive in Toledo

[David Kusumoto]

Tom you still have a lot of pals over here and on social media and quite 
frankly, what you've been through would have sent most mortals off a cliff a 
long time ago.  Most of us wouldn't be able to take what you've gone through 
and I'm glad the power of your belief has given you the willpower to survive.  
Life is hard enough dealing with issues involving exes and "formers" - and the 
garden variety problems brought by those who think themselves invincible.  But 
we're nothing without our health and money can't buy it back.  Physical 
disabilities which accompany advancing age makes what's difficult feel 
impossible.  So concentrate on yourself - and on continuing to stay positive 
under incredibly trying circumstances.  You have not had an easy road of it 
during the past 10 years.  Keep doing what still brings you joy.  Your belief 
is strong enough that you already know that no matter the outcome with what 
you've described - that in the end for yourself personally - given what you've 
accomplished so far - you cannot lose.

Never worry about the people who are in your past.  There's a good reason why 
they didn't make it to your future.  I don't have to tell you to be content 
about this because you already are.  But your stories are a good reminder for 
the rest of us to not sweat the small stuff.  - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of James Gresham 

Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 6:25 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: MOPO- still alivein Toledo

Tom thanks for sharing your heart, your love of God, your concerns and your 
problems.  We are all with you and I pray God comforts you, Jim

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:15 PM allen day 
mailto:aday5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Keep plugging away

I'm rooting for you

ad

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 7:53 PM Tom Martin 
mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
 wrote:

Hello folks-on January yes I had a vitreous hemorrhage in my left eye yes I 
only have one eye that could see I also had foot surgery on my
left foot my only remaining foot

I was in the hospital from January 19 for 30 days then I was put in a rehab 
nursing home for another 30 days and did not get released until
like March 4

Meanwhile my son and my ex-wife conspired to have me ruled mentally unstable 
and put into a nursing home I assume to acquire my property

I had given my son Tommy my car a year ago however he did not transfer the 
title so I've been paying insurance on the car for over a year I am
guilty of enabling and I accept all responsibility however on April 1 April 
fools day I contacted the Toledo police and also adult protective
services to secure my rights

I also got assessed by to mental health agencies and they said I was thinking 
stable and clear but every mental health agency I talked to agreed with me when 
I said how I've been dealing with all the stress with my prayer to Jesus Christ 
yes I've told you before I believe that things are getting very rough because 
the world is in disarray and in the final stages before Jesus comes back which 
was predicted many many years ago and anybody who believes and
even those that don't believe acknowledge that there is a deep disturbance in 
the force of the world with all the recent shootings

I suggest you listen to my song on YouTube called Armageddon which was 
predictive of this and an asked the people in politics teach their children to 
love not to hate

My own son who is brainwashed by his mother who is a non-believer in God and 
soul it was no surprise to me that she was up to her old tricks she
contacted my doctors and told them that I said I wanted to kill myself which 
was untrue and she also said that I thought the Chinese had caused
the doctor to make my eyes bad so he thought I'd lost my mind and he contacted 
my other doctors and that's when I had to come clean with the
police and let everybody in I've been abused by the woman my ex-wife since 
before the year 2000 that's why we got divorced she caused me to go chapter 13 
and was just very dishonest with my customers and my friends so she managed I 
gave Tommy my passwords to my computer and the keys to my house and they merely 
took advantage of me I'm not looking for pity I'm just trying to let you guys 
know what I've been through if it helps promote Jesus
Christ plan I am embracing everything that the devil throws at me because I 
know it's spiritual attack and when you're trying to walk with God is when it 
seems that the devil comes and tries to throw you off your game

so for any of you that are sad or depressed please take it from Tom the best 
answer is to pray for your enemies forgive them even though they've hurt you 
and they are malicious and do dirty tricks because the only way the devil wins 
is if you become a hater also which look at the evidence in society right now 
that's why these kids are shooting people because they want

But I will tell you this there is 10 to one more positive spiritual loving 

[MOPO] Goodfellas daybill insert frame "hack."

[David Kusumoto]

Has anyone else done similar?  Australian daybills are among my favs - esp. 
titles for which no USA inserts were made, usually post-1983. I've recycled a 
number of insert frames made by Sue Heim - and depending upon the background, 
I'll use black or different color paper to "cover" the white backer board 
underneath and let the poster float inside. (Personal preference - I've never 
used a matte to "frame" posters a second time inside the frame - because paper 
expands/contracts.)  For "Goodfellas" - I like the daybill format more than the 
DS one-sheet I used to own, e.g., its composition, slightly deeper colors plus 
it's more affordable - although the last one sold by Bruce fetched about $200.  
(This one is going out the door soon as I'm upgrading condition.) -d.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8482/Nhz95Y.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6682/nhGKlW.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

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Re: [MOPO] Announcing Propstore's Inaugural US Poster Auction!

[David Kusumoto]

Congratulations, Grey. When will all lots be available for viewing for this May 
sale? I don't think I've ever seen a full-color version of this poster before, 
only stills. -d.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/176/lpWXQj.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]




From: MoPo List  on behalf of Grey Smith 

Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2023 4:51 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Announcing Propstore's Inaugural US Poster Auction!

This April 19, 2023, Propstore is launching their inaugural Los Angeles Online 
Collectible Posters Auction. Join us for over 1,000 fantastic lots of original 
posters, artwork, and more. Register now: http://bit.ly/40H7H1c

M (Nero Film, 1931) German Poster (37.5" x 55.75")

[https://images.propstore.com/3c7cc4fe45fd56cb696dfc37a4171e35.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
The Goat (Metro, 1921) One Sheet (27" x 41")

[https://images.propstore.com/6ed52a27616eedf7d075694733b4295c.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
Cabin in the Sky (MGM,1943) One Sheet (27" x 41") Autographed by Al Hirschfeld

[https://images.propstore.com/8b4ca7436e6e48eda56afbc7c8d89204.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
Man Who Laughs (Universal, 1928) Window Card (14" x 22")

[https://images.propstore.com/b8200a52dc74e4b3c7b902f15d28a46e.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
La Belle et la Bete (DisCina, 1946) French Double Grande (62" x 91") Artwork 
Jean-Denis Malcles

[https://images.propstore.com/ca2890ce37dbb6a11aea0f942706fe3c.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars (Universal, 1936) Three Sheet (41" x 79")

[https://images.propstore.com/14d9a19f7d96a75390fd44c12d87db73.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]
War of the Worlds (Paramount, 1953) Half Sheet (22" x 28") Style B

[https://images.propstore.com/58083ff4a5685c01dbe6680aef39cc8a.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

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Re: [MOPO] WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

[David Kusumoto]

That is a great story, Greg.  In fact, like Bruce, you both have great stories 
and a gift for telling them!  When is YOUR book coming out?  I know Bruce has 
one in the works and the stuff you post on FB is equally hair-raising!  All of 
my back stories are mostly bad / grisly and aren't culturally related, dating 
back to my news days, like the time when a freshly bound corpse was found in a 
trunk at the San Diego airport and one of the reporters, I kid you not, with a 
serious face - held a mike in front of the homicide cop's face and asked, "Do 
you suspect foul play?" Sorry, but that broke everybody up. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Alan Heimann 

Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 5:42 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

Greg this is a great read and wonderful piece of movie poster history on a 
personal level.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 5:41 PM Greg Douglass 
mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote:

On the other hand:

I had a dear friend named Chuck Vergara who lived in Fairfax, CA. He owned a 
local restaurant that was decorated with as many movie posters as he could fit, 
mostly 20s & 30s titles. "They're just so damned pretty!" he would enthuse to 
me on a regular basis. (My fascination with 50s horror/sci-fi eluded him.)
Chuck was driving his station wagon back in the late 70s on Market St. in San 
Francisco. He saw some sort of activity going on at one of the many 
triple-feature low-rent theaters there. The theater owner was tossing an 
immense number of posters dating back to the 1930s. Chuck asked if he could 
grab a few.
A couple of hours later, the suspension system in that station wagon was being 
sorely tested by the massive weight of as many posters as it would hold. He 
opened up a small poster store in one of his properties in town. I'd stop by 
often to talk posters with Chuck (face it, guys; everyone else thinks we're 
nuts for urinating away thousands of dollars on pieces of paper. Chuck was 
simpatico.) I'd pick up a few titles; an 8-card set for "Some Like it Hot" for 
30 bucks, a "She Creature" half sheet for $15. It was a tiny piece of heaven.

Years later, he called me to tell me he was liquidating has collection of 
paper. He gave me first crack at everything. This was right at the beginning of 
eBay so the timing was impeccable. He had contacts at Lucasfilm so there was a 
hefty pile of mint Star Wars stuff. The prices were dictated by him. I picked 
up a "Jaws" one sheet and asked "How much?" "Gimme a buck", he shrugged. I 
argued with him; "We both know it's worth more than that!" "Gimme a buck", he 
repeated Our Toyota was full and my pockets were empty when I left Chuck's 
home. I sold most of the stuff during what used to be the wild west days of 
Ebay. I made over $100,000 in a year.

I found out later that Chuck knew he had prostate cancer and didn't have long 
to live. He wanted his posters to go to someone he liked and who appreciated 
them as an art form. He was tired of dealing with "pinhole counters" (his 
wonderful expression) through Movie Collector's World. I called to thank him 
for his incredible generosity but...he was already gone. It broke my heart.
Greg Douglass

PS: Chuck called me one night. "Get over here NOW!", he yelled. I zipped over 
and there, laid out on his living room floor, was the six-sheet from the 1925 
"Phantom of the Opera" (the masque scene). He had someone coming over to buy 
it. The buyer bitched like crazy over the "outrageous" selling price of $2,000. 
It remains one of the coolest things I've ever witnessed. Chuck and his wife 
Hazel were the greatest.



Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2023 at 1:55 PM
From: "David Kusumoto" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

I did the same. I joined Crew Stories like Bruce and did a deep dive and 
couldn't find the screenshot image I web-hosted so others could see it here. I 
think it's fake news as far as giving people the impression that this happened 
last week - but I DO think this could've happened as far back as the 1990s or 
as recently as two years ago.  Warners bought MGM's library in 1996. Two years 
ago, Warners (as Warner Media) - sold its movie properties to Amazon - but hung 
onto Turner's original MGM library of pre-1986 titles including pre-1950s 
Warners titles, pre-1950 RKO titles and a bunch of other studio and TV 
libraries. Everything post 1986 and ALL of UA's library including the James 
Bond series dating to 1962 was sold to Amazon two years ago. - d.

P.S. - That is Glass Bottom Boat on the floor in that picture.  It would not be 
among the titles Warners would keep after its sale to Amazon.  The whole thing 
is confusing. What matters is th

Re: [MOPO] WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

[David Kusumoto]

I did the same. I joined Crew Stories like Bruce and did a deep dive and 
couldn't find the screenshot image I web-hosted so others could see it here. I 
think it's fake news as far as giving people the impression that this happened 
last week - but I DO think this could've happened as far back as the 1990s or 
as recently as two years ago.  Warners bought MGM's library in 1996. Two years 
ago, Warners (as Warner Media) - sold its movie properties to Amazon - but hung 
onto Turner's original MGM library of pre-1986 titles including pre-1950s 
Warners titles, pre-1950 RKO titles and a bunch of other studio and TV 
libraries. Everything post 1986 and ALL of UA's library including the James 
Bond series dating to 1962 was sold to Amazon two years ago. - d.

P.S. - That is Glass Bottom Boat on the floor in that picture.  It would not be 
among the titles Warners would keep after its sale to Amazon.  The whole thing 
is confusing. What matters is the idea of trashing movie paper.  It would be 
hard to fake an image of posters being strewn everywhere in a cavernous 
hangar-type warehouse.  Whether this happened two years ago or 30 years ago, 
who knows.


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Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 10:33 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

Kirby

My first thought on seeing that image was "looks kind of fishy to me"!

I joined that FB group and that post is not there. I went to that guy's 
profile, and it was not there either. And I found the same post in another 
non-movie poster group.

Looks like one more of those "I remember when poster exchanges had Frankenstein 
and Dracula lobby sets" to me.

But what do I know?

Bruce

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:19 PM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Could be; I don't remember.
K.

On Apr 8, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Roland Lataille 
mailto:roland.latai...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Didn't Warner acquire many of the MGM films years ago?


On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 11:26:24 AM EDT, Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:

uh that is a half-sheet for THE GLASS BOTTOM BOAT, which is MGM, so why 
is that there if this is some kind of Warner's archive?  Fake news?

Kirby McDaniel
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On Apr 7, 2023, at 10:59 PM, Alan Adler 
mailto:m...@charter.net>> wrote:

This is obscene. Whoever inside the WB organization that decided in was a good 
idea to trash its own history should be fired on the spot - and all the way up 
the corporate ladder if need be. When I first heard about this I thought the 
event took place 50 years ago. This level of stupidity is disgusting. Why not 
just give it all to the Academy or any film school or sane group of individuals 
and save the expense of trashing it? It’s akin to book burning. And to then 
trash it in private when people wanted to save it by hiding their actions is 
disgusting. This act reeks of high-level corporate idiocy. I’ve seen this 
close-up, but I’d hoped we’d evolved beyond the days of trashing art and 
artifacts for the sake of expediency. I guess not.

Alan

On Apr 7, 2023, at 7:05 PM, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, I saw that posted yesterday at the Crew Stories site - but I was unable to 
confirm the actual date this happened.

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Re: [MOPO] WB throwing away thousands of movie posters

[David Kusumoto]

Yes, I saw that posted yesterday at the Crew Stories site - but I was unable to 
confirm the actual date this happened.

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[MOPO] Paying global carriers for "insurance" that's worthless

[David Kusumoto]

Really disturbed by this thread in that what you guys are experiencing feels 
like a total scam that has been carried out with impunity by global carriers 
for years.  If I was a younger man back during my "reporting" days - I'd be 
using my old school contacts with desk editors and would be tearing out the 
floorboards and dry wall to investigate this nonsense.  This is a legit news 
story.  To learn small retailers like poster sellers - have been dealing with 
this crap forever is beyond the pale.  Meanwhile, the lowly "spot consumer" is 
completely unaware of the dishonest / misleading practice of "taking money for 
insurance that's worthless."  As I and others used to say, "Anything in Fine 
Print is NEVER Good News."  Even Bruce H. used to tout the efficiency of UPS in 
relation to paying claims as a large customer - and I noticed this week that 
he's now qualifying those earlier recommendations on social media.  Almost 
feels old USPS registered mail, which is slower - but what people still use to 
send $$$ slabbed comic books - must now be the "default" for domestic items - 
but is likely still useless for stuff sent overseas when the hand-off occurs to 
another carrier.  And this is not going to be worth the trouble for one-sheets 
valued at $75-$200.

Sorry to bring up eBay given their horrific sins harassing the Steiners - but 
what's it been like for dealers using its so-called all-inclusive "eBay 
International Delivery" or "Global Shipping Program" - whereby a "front of 
signage" presumption is made that eBay - (sort of like Amazon) - has taken 
overseas shipping "in house" - and is now responsible for point-to-point 
tracking and "insurance" coverage of all items sold on their platform?  Rather 
than choosing "your own carrier" - there is now a voluntary option to let eBay 
handle overseas deliveries.  I tried it a couple of times and I was surprised 
at how efficient it was for mid-range material.  I sent some signed Broadway 
material to a buyer in Germany - and got real-time updates about progress.  It 
was slower but still.  It looks like eBay negotiated contracted rates with UPS, 
DHL, FedEx, etc. - to move those packages - even if those carriers end up 
sub-contracting to have Royal Mail or Deutsche Post / DHL, etc. or private 
people driving Ubers to deliver items the last few miles to a customer's home 
or office.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Moviemem Original 
Movie Posters 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 1:46 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
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Hi Caitlin

It does seem that they all have that get out clause but leave it to the sender 
to read the fine print. However, it doesn’t seem right that they still accept 
your money for insurance when it is likely that it won’t be covered.



As to the customs charges (GST etc) I have been told that they would not be 
refunded in Australia if the package was damaged.



I think you are right in saying that the only way to be sure of safe delivery 
of a high end package is to hand carry it yourself!!



Regards



John





From: Caitlin Graham 
Sent: 30 March, 2023 7:09 PM
To: Moviemem Original Movie Posters 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Postal Service handling issues



Hi John,



I had an expensive poster go missing (I suspect stolen) in Fedex Memphis 
warehouse last Christmas when shipping UK-US. I had paid the Fedex insurance 
but subsequently discovered, like Helmut says, that their terms and conditions 
have a get-out-clause on anything 'unique' which includes all collectable items 
and even watches, jewellery, cellphones. So I had to claim on my own business 
insurance. All couriers seem to have a similar get-out clause so I don't even 
bother insuring shipments with the carrier any more and rely on my own transit 
insurance.



Both me and the buyer were devastated as it was such a rare poster.



If a poster arrived damaged, the buyer would simply need to return it to you 
and provide proof of the return export to obtain the import refund. Obviously 
that wouldn't work if they held on to the damaged poster - in which case they 
are not entitled to an import refund.



There is definitely a big risk - I just avoid slipping into the USPS at all 
costs. I think if there was something extremely valuable and irreplaceable I 
would hand carry it myself!



Best,

Caitlin



On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 09:30, Moviemem Original Movie Posters 
mailto:johnr...@moviemem.com>> wrote:

Hi Helmut

I paid around $400.00 for insurance but I do agree that I might have wasted my 
money. I also get a lot of packages delivered from the US and UK and always 
have to pay the customs charges before the package even arrives in the country. 
I would say that there would be little to no chance of getting the customs 
charges refunded if the package arrived damaged.

Bottom line is that there is a huge risk in sending high end posters 
internationally. 

Re: [MOPO] Decor?

[David Kusumoto]

Actually, this phenomenon comes up in a MOVIE.  Cantankerous / grouchy artist 
scolds a potential buyer who prefers to buy art that matches his living room 
decor:

"This is degrading. You DON'T buy paintings to blend in with the sofa!" - Max 
Von Sydow yelling at potential buyer Daniel Stern in "Hannah and Her Sisters" 
(1986).

From: MoPo List  on behalf of S & N Yafet 

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:56 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Decor?

Kirby,
This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion which is 
very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their "decor" when 
buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would have conniptions 
over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
Nathalie

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

Kirby McDaniel
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Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.




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Re: [MOPO] Vertigo 1S

[David Kusumoto]

t of my ability so that I end up with good 
consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s possible 
uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably recompressing it) could 
slightly affect color representation. And of course the screen you are viewing 
it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...

That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
example.

Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that here.

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On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:

I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would not 
want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not within 
the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.

Kirby

On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino 
mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
Maddalena's Florida room.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

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On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.

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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[David Kusumoto]

Yeah I agree that grading standards have slipped over there, which stands out 
more because Vertigo one-sheets are always in demand and not considered 
"cultish" nor "obscure."  Reconciling images with aberrant text descriptions 
are head scratchers when it happens as it did with the "creamsicle / 50-50 ice 
cream bar" Vertigo.

I'll have to look more closely at the "other" faded Vertigo you mention that's 
being offered in the Signature because it would be odd if identical and / or if 
not - if it is given the same grading treatment.  Those images are very 
specific so it should be easy to spot differences.  Plus - "Very fine on linen" 
has a very specific connotation / expectation for collectors vs. to the lay 
buyer - the latter who might not EVER know that it's a grade that should never 
be applied to a faded poster.

Fading is a kiss of death for posters, sometimes more worrisome than tears and 
small missing pieces simply because too much air-brushing and stencil cutting 
gets involved to darken what's gone forever.  You look at the oldest "Vertigo" 
example during the past year offered in Dallas - which sold a short time after 
Grey left - and it's graded in "fine" condition and is arguably the preferred 
poster because the colors are deeper, richer and closer to the original despite 
the "lesser" grade.  It almost feels like THAT poster was one of the last ones 
Grey graded - before he moved on.  The other thing is I know those guys have 
had some issues finding people willing / able to write detailed text 
descriptions required for all lots offered, as indeed it's a tedious process 
even with templates - and their poster department is still understaffed and 
seems unlikely to handle the workload required for their sales vs. the team at 
eMoviePoster, which alerts customers to delays related to careful packaging and 
sorting.  Heritage's focus outside of Sunday sales seems to be trying to lure 
the six-figure cost titles and / or big collections - and they do well enough 
for that - (they still produce good catalogs that I enjoy receiving - and they 
even got Hershenson to agree to write an intro for their silent film poster 
sale months back) - but they're not as adept from an equity / knowledge 
standpoint to address movie posters, their variations and what not - as a 
standalone section viable to vintage paper buyers - vs. when Grey was there 
when he built that dept. from scratch.  Again, just my opinion, not necessarily 
factual. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of peter contarino 

Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:31 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER 
PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

Thanks David, I neglected to mention the title! Yeah HA has gone down the drain 
since Grey left. If you look at the last Sunday auction there are a lot of 
really faded pieces. Even in the recent signature auction there was the biggest 
selection of faded LC's I have ever seen. Shocking to see that level of 
material in a Sig auction. Evidently Bruce is not grading all or some of the 
auction material. There is another sweet creamsicle variant coming up in the 
Sig auction in march. Looks remarkably similar to the one they just "sold" on 
Sunday.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 3:43 AM S & N Yafet 
mailto:sya...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds accurate. I never collected Hitchcock but your explanation and opinions 
make sense.   I suspect the "creamsickle orange" descriptor will be difficult 
to forget.  Thanks for the reply!
Nathalie

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 1:33 AM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah I think Peter is talking about the Vertigo one-sheet that sold for $9600.  
Whoever graded it "VF on linen" hasn't seen a lot of Vertigo one sheets - or - 
is engaging in hopeful / wishful thinking. And yet - because it was in a Sunday 
weekly sale instead of a signature sale - suggests someone might've known it 
wasn't high grade - despite the premium condition label attached, hoping 
whoever bought would rely on the image vs. what was in the descriptive text.

In my view, if Grey Smith was still there - (he left Heritage more than a year 
ago and is now doing fine over at Propstore) - it's unlikely he would've ever 
let this go up with a "VF" grade. He would've probably given it a "G-VG on 
linen" - while Bruce H. would've given it a "G on linen" - both grades, 
whatever their differences - would've been a lot closer than "VF on linen" 
represented.  Just my opinion, not factual.  -d.

Comparisons during the past year:

* VF on linen - $9,600 on March 23, 2023


[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5906/edddzc.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/vertigo-paramount-1958-very-fine-on-linen-o

Re: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!

[David Kusumoto]

Agree with John.  Just go to people's homes, esp. people with kids.  It's gonna 
be repros of something Star Wars or Disney that they'll hang onto it for years 
until it's replaced - or - a new poster, is added - usually what's in vogue 
when kids become pre-teens or older - sometimes it's a pop singer, sometimes 
sports figures or teams.  This is what it was like when I was a kid and it has 
NOT changed, using tape or tacks, whatever that would horrify collectors of 
vintage paper.

Hard collectors will chase originals - but you have to "graduate" to that 
unless they visit eBay regularly for new releases.  Kids are fickle in that 
they'll chase what's in theaters and quickly fall out of love with titles and 
move onto the next best thing.  I buy posters online - new releases and 
whatever for clients.  There was a kid of a former news reporter I would buy 
for occasionally who was into movies - and he went from Harry Potter to Scott 
Pilgrim to the Hunger Games to the latest Jason Statham movie to Game of 
Thrones to hard R-rated horror stuff.  He had a cheap frame and would change 
posters out with whatever was "hip" to him and his friends.  Otherwise no 
affection for condition or first issues or anything else.  Doesn't look at 
posters as the same as Funko toys or whatever, nothing rare.

So far - knock on wood - no one I know has ever bought a digital photo display 
that is AS LARGE as a one-sheet or BIGGER for their homes - like the kind you 
see at movie theaters (also a dying industry) - or at exhibitors' conventions - 
which have replaced paper posters - like the example below from a couple of 
years ago. -d.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5300/54U6uq.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Moviemem Original 
Movie Posters 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:39 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!


Pretty sure that it would be one of the popular reproductions that have been 
produced in huge quantities like Star Wars, Breakfast at Tiffanys, Casablanca, 
etc but no idea specifically which one would be the most popular.



Regards



John



From: MoPo List  On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson
Sent: 29 March, 2023 9:26 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!



One of my 67,000+ customers posed a question to me that REALLY has me puzzled. 
It SEEMS like there should be an obvious answer, but when I reflected on it, I 
was not even sure what the top candidates are!

Here it is: "What would you say is the most owned movie poster (original or 
reproduction)? The one that is most commonly found in collections?".

So NON-movie posters (like images of top stars) ARE excluded, but commercial 
copies of movie posters are NOT. And of course most serious collectors are very 
few, if any, repros.

I could tell you where my thinking led me, but I would first like to hear what 
YOU think.

Please don't leave me hanging! There are NO bad answers!





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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[David Kusumoto]

Yeah I think Peter is talking about the Vertigo one-sheet that sold for $9600.  
Whoever graded it "VF on linen" hasn't seen a lot of Vertigo one sheets - or - 
is engaging in hopeful / wishful thinking. And yet - because it was in a Sunday 
weekly sale instead of a signature sale - suggests someone might've known it 
wasn't high grade - despite the premium condition label attached, hoping 
whoever bought would rely on the image vs. what was in the descriptive text.

In my view, if Grey Smith was still there - (he left Heritage more than a year 
ago and is now doing fine over at Propstore) - it's unlikely he would've ever 
let this go up with a "VF" grade. He would've probably given it a "G-VG on 
linen" - while Bruce H. would've given it a "G on linen" - both grades, 
whatever their differences - would've been a lot closer than "VF on linen" 
represented.  Just my opinion, not factual.  -d.

Comparisons during the past year:

* VF on linen - $9,600 on March 23, 2023


[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5906/edddzc.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/vertigo-paramount-1958-very-fine-on-linen-one-sheet-27-x-41-saul-bass-artwork-hitchcock/a/162313-54347.s
[https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?trsuspmrk=1=path%5B2%2F7%2F8%2F5%2F9%2F27859965%5D=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D]
Vertigo (Paramount, 1958). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X | Lot #54347 | 
Heritage 
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* Fine-VF on linen - $9,000 on Nov 19 2022

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https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/vertigo-paramount-1958-fine-very-fine-on-linen-one-sheet-27-x-41-saul-bass-artwork/a/7280-86424.s
[https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?trsuspmrk=1=path%5B2%2F6%2F3%2F0%2F2%2F26302084%5D=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D]
Vertigo (Paramount, 1958). Fine/Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" | Lot #86424 
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* Fine on linen - $7,800 on April 23 2022

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6954/abSaoh.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]


https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/vertigo-paramount-1958-fine-on-linen-one-sheet-27-x-41-saul-bass-artwork/a/7272-86087.s?
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Vertigo (Paramount, 1958). Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41"). | Lot #86087 | 
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From: MoPo List  on behalf of S & N Yafet 

Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 7:27 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER 
PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

Which one was that?
Nathalie


On Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 9:55 PM peter contarino 
mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This faded, inaccurately graded creamsicle orange piece sold for $9600? I don't 
believe it.



On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 1:46 PM mailto:bru...@ha.com>> wrote:



[https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?trnonsuspmrk=1=path%5bcovers/recurring/subtypeid-11/type-i/4.jpg%5d,sizedata%5b200x257%5d=url%5bfile:cover.chain%5d]





Featured this week - Heritage is proud to present a Great selection of very 
desirable Rare and Original posters, lobby cards, photos, and more –  347 lots 
in all! ENDING SUNDAY, Apr. 2nd, at 10 PM C.T.



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Re: [MOPO] Oscar reminisce and some fun things

[David Kusumoto]

Hello Kirb, my pal in Austin.  So you assert with great conviction - that 
BANSHEES is the greatest movie of the year.  Let me express the following in a 
tone that displays great modesty, humility and restraint:

YOU, SIR - ARE HIGH ON METH AND ALL KNOWN HALLUCINOGENS ON PLANET EARTH!
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4481/s9anqi.jpg]
The only thing I liked in that movie was the donkey, who should have been feted 
with an Oscar.  He/it deserved an Oscar more than Gleeson and Farrell.   TÁR 
was the best written film of the year even though it took forever to get going. 
 Blanchett plays another bitchy character but she was magnificent. Alas, the 
Academy is not allowed to vote for actors who play predators hence she was 
never gonna win.  Everything Everywhere gave me multiple headaches and had 
multiple false endings.  Voters felt good about their choices and loved the 
speeches - but by next year it will be 2022's version of 2008's "Slumdog 
Millionaire."

Finally, declaring your love for 1963's Cleopatra is so typical, a bloated 
24-sh*t (oh I mean "24-sheet") of a movie featuring wooden, "declarative" 
dialogue that bankrupted 20th Century Fox so badly - that Julie Andrews had to 
ditch her umbrella from Mary Poppins early - and rescue the studio by 
delivering the Sound of Music.  Finally - Tom Jones was a "trendy" Best Pic in 
'63 and oddly feels anachronistic / dated - DESPITE a story that's set in 18th 
century England. Give me Barry Lyndon anyday.  So there. -d.  (All in fun!)


From: Kirby McDaniel 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 8:29 AM
To: David Kusumoto ; MOPO 

Subject: Re: [MOPO] Oscar reminisce and some fun things

Hi, David and Mopolistas:

I saw your assessment of the BP Oscar nominations on some Facebook Page or 
another, and your assessment of THE BANSHEES OF INISHERIN is as wet as the 
state of California!  It's my fave of pictures that I've seen - TOP GUN, 
WESTERN FRONT (brilliant, and a dark horse), TAR (yes, I know it has an 
accent~)(brilliant) and EVERYTHING ANYWHERE ALL THE TIME SIMULTANEOUSLY, 
SYNCRONOUSLY INTERMINABLY ALL AT F CKING ONCE! (I did sorta like it and I want 
one of those rotating donuts).  But not AVATAR.  Cameron is looking at the 
other nominees and thinking to himself "I'm still the King of the World."

INISHERIN is the blackest of black comedies, beautifully photographed.  Colin 
Ferrell should win the Oscar, but probably won't. (Austin Butler, fine in his 
role, is far too pretty for his own good, and Kurt Russell was a better Elvis.) 
 Brendan Gleason's role is NOT a supporting role, and Barry Keoghan 
performance, along with Jamie Lee Curtis, gets the Kirby McDaniel Award for 
Performance of the Year.  And that's a coveted award that doesn't get given out 
willy-nilly.

I always watch the Oscars, and I will this year too.  I'm still heartbroken 
that CLEOPATRA didn't win Best Picture, but I love TOM JONES.  So there.

One final note on the Oscars: they all WANT ONE.

Kirby McDaniel
Movieart.com
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On Mar 11, 2023, at 10:21 PM, David Kusumoto  wrote:

Nice pics!  I still have pics of my poster collection when it was at its peak 
and have posted them before on MoPo.  Interesting that you have figurines.  I 
could never get into collecting those because they gather dust - although of 
course now - given the price of original '77 Star Wars stuff, I wish I had.  My 
wife has a collection of no-value Funko Pop Star Wars figurines but they're in 
book cases with glass doors on 'em to keep 'em clean.

As far as the Oscars - I've managed to see almost every show on TV since early 
1965 when Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady went up against each other for calendar 
year 1964.  I was in Europe when Silence of the Lambs won in 1992 despite being 
released in early 1991.  I still don't know how a grisly movie like that - as 
good as it is - could sweep the top prizes like it did.  As far as the show 
Sunday night - I now only watch the end when the top awards are given out.  
(It's why I missed last year's "slap" that overshadowed "CODA" winning Best 
Picture.)

I've seen all 10 films nominated for Best Pic but none are masterpieces and the 
only one I felt was provocative / intriguing was Tar - but even it took a long 
time to get going.  Every year or every couple of years I post a round-up of 
impressions about the Best Pic nominees and every year I keep saying I'm going 
to stop because a Best Picture nomination used to mean something back in my 
day.  It doesn't anymore.  I did buy the one-sheet to The Fabelmans from Dale 
Dilts before the film came out.  But the movie was a disappointment. - d.

Oscar round-up link:  
https://bit.ly/3FgLcrp<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F3FgLcrp=05%7C01%7C%7C03744d8990df4dd6f9a208db230eaf8c%

Re: [MOPO] Oscar reminisce and some fun things

[David Kusumoto]

Nice pics!  I still have pics of my poster collection when it was at its peak 
and have posted them before on MoPo.  Interesting that you have figurines.  I 
could never get into collecting those because they gather dust - although of 
course now - given the price of original '77 Star Wars stuff, I wish I had.  My 
wife has a collection of no-value Funko Pop Star Wars figurines but they're in 
book cases with glass doors on 'me to keep 'em clean.

As far as the Oscars - I've managed to see almost every show on TV since early 
1965 when Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady went up against each other for calendar 
year 1964.  I was in Europe when Silence of the Lambs won in 1992 despite being 
released in early 1991.  I still don't know how a grisly movie like that - as 
good as it is - could sweep the top prizes like it did.  As far as the show 
Sunday night - I now only watch the end when the top awards are given out.  
(It's why I missed last year's "slap" that overshadowed "CODA" winning Best 
Picture.)

I've seen all 10 films nominated for Best Pic but none are masterpieces and the 
only one I felt was provocative / intriguing was Tar - but even it took a long 
time to get going.  Every year or every couple of years I post a round-up of 
impressions about the Best Pic nominees and every year I keep saying I'm going 
to stop because a Best Picture nomination used to mean something back in my 
day.  It doesn't anymore.  I did buy the one-sheet to The Fabelmans from Dale 
Dilts before the film came out.  But the movie was a disappointment. - d.

Oscar round-up link:  https://bit.ly/3FgLcrp

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5478/X0M0Pt.jpg]


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Alan Heimann 

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 8:28 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Oscar reminisce and some fun things


For most of my life, teenage years and forward, I've watched the Oscars. That's 
about 56 years worth. During high school, I had a click of friends who were 
interested in watching and discussing movies. I went to a parochial school and 
while there was some money for the chess club and the debate club, 
Administration was not very pro the " movie club ". One of the things my 
friends and I always tried to do was watch the five movies nominated for best 
picture, debate their merits and then watch the Oscars. Actually watching the 
Oscars called for some sacrifice as they always occurred during midterm exams 
usually on a Sunday, ending late. There was always  an exam on Monday. Thinking 
back now there are highlights we are all likely to remember. The slap, the 
streak, the refusals Brando and Scott. I also remember a lively group 
discussion about Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy loss  to Wayne in True Grit. The 
discussion centered if Voight being nominated for the same movie/ award might 
have been a factor. Love to hear any remembrances from MoPo members they might 
like to share. Fast forward recently, with there now being 10 nominees, I’m 
lucky if I've seen half of them. This year I've seen five; All Quiet, Top Gun 
Maverick, EEAA0, Elvis and  Tar



Would imagine most of us spend some time during the week thinking about movies 
and movie posters. Every time I walk into my kitchen I'm thinking Tarantino. If 
you're wondering why that is please see the link. I think you'll understand… I 
really should get out more.



http://hamptonmovieposters.com/store#!/kitch/p/535706769/category=0



Prompted by someones posts on MoPo's 28th birthday string I really remember 
liking those "what's on your walls" . So I took some pics of mine. In my former 
house

a lot of the wall space was dedicated to movie posters, currently only about 
10%. I had framed a large number of posters and while that was pretty 
expensive, as my wall space is now diminished it's nice being able to swap out 
posters every couple of weeks. I have a number of figurines/statues on shelves 
attached to the wall and I also took some individual pictures of some of the 
ones that I really like. The pics will be a little fuzzy but I’m sure the 
posters will be recognizable to you. The link is from my website which hasn’t 
been updated for years but I keep it going and use it for links.

Re: [MOPO] 1,914,888 million images and 1,967,382 million sales results completely free!

[David Kusumoto]

Yes, the things we take for granted until they're gone, sometimes without 
notice, whether it's Bruce's image archives or even MoPo itself - and my mind 
wonders again what it would be like if they disappeared, e.g., like this link 
to a poster authentication site which used to host a ton of images of genuine 
vs. counterfeit posters, including minty whites and double-sided repros. I miss 
sites like this and in hindsight, I should have thanked the host of this site 
openly when I had the chance. It was obviously a labor of love, a public 
service with nothing offered for sale - a thankless job for whoever put it 
together when it was up - a great guide for collectors and sellers trying to 
determine what is real and what is fake.  It even had a list of "suspicious" 
sellers of fake items.  Maybe it went away because of that, who knows?  But its 
section comparing popular titles and their many variations was super valuable, 
going beyond verbal descriptions and providing close-up photos.  Separately 
there was another MoPo member who openly purchased repros just so he could 
compare them and share his results publicly.  He was helpful too, esp. 
uncovering the Pulp Fiction advances with the fake stamp on the back which I 
unknowingly sold (and refunded) to a buyer back in the day.  The mind resists 
the truth until it doesn't or it can't.  It's why I will always appreciate 
these resources which are genuinely free. - d.

http://www.moviepostercollectors.guide/Authentications.html (no longer works).

From: MoPo List  on behalf of Moviemem Original 
Movie Posters 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:53 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: 1,914,888 million images and 1,967,382 million sales results 
completely free!


Nearly 2 million images is quite incredible! I have around 50,000 on my website 
and that creates bandwith issues, etc. I can only imagine the cost of hosting 2 
million images.



Regards



John





From: MoPo List  On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson
Sent: 27 February, 2023 10:43 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] 1,914,888 million images and 1,967,382 million sales results 
completely free!



Did you know that my company, eMoviePoster.com, provides 1,914,888 million 
images and 1,967,382 million sales results completely free on our site? It is 
true!

When you go to our Auction History at 
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archive.html
 (our online sales results database) you are able to search just about ALL the 
results from our 33+ years of selling movie paper (and we automatically add our 
latest sales after the close of each set of auctions).

There is NO charge of any kind, but you do have to register on our site to see 
the prices and the larger images, because hosting 2 million images cost us a 
fortune (but registering is completely free).

As of this writing, there are 1,967,382 sales results and 1,914,888 movie paper 
images (and thousands more of each are added every four weeks when our sets of 
auctions close). This is far and away the most movie poster images on ANY sales 
results website!

As we said above, it costs a fortune to host, maintain and improve this 
database, and one of these days we may have to start charging for using some or 
all of it.

So be sure to make the most of it while it remains completely free to all (and 
remember that it is the ONLY such database that offers 100% accurate results; 
all other such databases are filled with results that fell through or never 
happened, while we guarantee that EVERY single one of our results took place on 
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Re: [MOPO] Celebrate! MoPo is 28 Years Old!

[David Kusumoto]

defense of minty white inserts.  Also defending the professor will 
be author James Frey, who admitted his "non-fiction" bestseller, "A Million 
Little Pieces," was all made up. [TV-MA]

"WITHERING HEIGHTS" -- Concert Encore:  Inspired by Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, 
Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Mel Brooks, Woody Allen, Jerry Seinfeld, Andrew 
Dice Clay, Sam Kinison and Gilbert Gottfried -- Freeman Fisher and Bob Brooks 
observe and eviscerate the world of movie poster collecting -- in a stand-up 
comedy extravaganza taped at Carnegie Hall on Feb. 14, 2004. [TV-MA]

"WORDS & MUSIC" -- Sponsored by the George Lucas School of Film at USC, 
musician Greg Douglass hosts a 90-minute tour of the history of music in 
cinema, playing excerpts on stage at the Hollywood Bowl.  Taped December 1, 
2005.  (NOTE:  Course credit available for 500-level graduate students; please 
contact the dean's office.)

"THE BIG-EASY, 2008" -- "Part 2 - The Return."  Host Dick Cavitt interviews 
Joseph Bonelli in this 3-part series exploring the poster collector Bonelli's 
miraculous escape from Hurricane Katrina -- and his poignant return to the city 
where jazz was born.  [TV-G]

"JEKYLL & HYDE, JURIS DOCTORATE" -- Starring Claude Litton, terse and 
tough-minded lawyer who speaks brutal truths in short bursts by day -- but 
transforms into elegant and gracious tea-serving host for poster collectors by 
night.  Tonight's special:  Earl Grey Tea.  [TV-14]

"RECOMMENDED!" -- Host Kirby McDaniel offers a list of films to see, offering 
only a single explanatory sentence for each. [TV-G]

"PICARESQUE" -- Starring Tom Martin as himself in this critically acclaimed 
series where he regales audiences with exhilarating and amusing stories and 
observations about every realm of the human condition.  Shot on location at the 
Pantages Theater in Los Angeles.  [TV-14]

"LOST IN TRANSLATION" -- Starring David Kusumoto, émigré from Japan, whose 
book-length writings in English are puzzlingly transformed to Greek, hence 
reaching an audience of only one.  Tonight's episode, "Torturing MoPo'ers:  the 
Quickening." [TV-14]

"HOLLYWOOD BABYLON" -- Actress Toochis Moorin takes viewers on a tour of 
historic landmarks in the entertainment world -- and discusses her starring 
role in director Ridley Scott's next feature film.  [TV-G]

"AMBULANCE CHASER, MEXICO CITY" -- Starring Rod Morgan, controversial exporter 
of Mexican memorabilia -- whose mission is to move material within 24-hours 
after the death of any celebrity.  Tonight's episode:  After scanning the day's 
obituaries for "leads," he stomps on the grave of Charlton Heston and proclaims 
his hatred of guns.  Yet curiously, he secretly carries a .357 Magnum "just in 
case." [TV-MA]

"AMAZING COLOSSAL MAN, THE MUSICAL" -- Updated remake of the 1950s sci-fi 
classic with songs!  Directed by "Evan," featuring musical performances by 
famed Peruvian singer, Yma Sumac.  [TV-14]

"WTF?" -- Host James Lipton interviews Scott Burns, owner of the Movie Poster 
Discussion Group, about the history of literary sectarian violence, 1995 to 
present.  Featured:  a discussion of beloved and notorious figures who have 
dominated his pages, with highlights and low-lights noted accordingly.  [TV-MA]


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Susan Heim 

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 6:48 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Celebrate! MoPo is 28 Years Old!

Hi Scott,
   I agree with Nathalie.the group has been a welcomed addition to my life 
and I've met some wonderful people here.  Thank you.

Sue
HollywoodPosters.com
Hollywood Poster Frames
(800) 463-2994

From: MoPo List  on behalf of S & N Yafet 

Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 2:07 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Celebrate! MoPo is 28 Years Old!

Thank you, Scott and congratulations on the longevity of this group you 
founded.  Many times someone here has answered my often ignorant questions 
privately.  Delicate considerations seldom found in other groups.  It's a 
privilege and a joy to be among your number.
Thank you again, Scott.
Nathalie Yafet


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Christopher Quarles 

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 5:51 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Celebrate! MoPo is 28 Years Old!

I saved some emails from the MoPo Listserve in a folder. The earliest one I 
could find saved was in January 2002 when people were telling us what was on 
their walls. There was a Eugene Hughes linenbacking email as well.
I know I have searched the MoPo archives in the past. Is that still possible?

Chris Quarles

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:46 PM Christopher Quarles  
wrote:
Thank you Scott and American University!

Chris Quarle

Re: [MOPO] Poster Story 21 years in the making!

[David Kusumoto]

That's a great story insofar it is different than when you get a second chance 
at a specific title you missed out on before.  What you describe is winning the 
exact same item - down to its unique paper fibers - that you missed out on - 
that you never forgot about - more than two decades later.

I think we all have some version of this story in our heads, something we 
regret bidding, chasing - or even selling - that we wish we could have another 
crack at - and I mean not just a different copy of a specific poster - but the 
EXACT same poster we missed or let go that we thought would "turn up again" in 
the future - but never has.

I know there are times when I think about specific titles that were in my 
collection and I remember them like a forensic person remembers a fingerprint.  
I was so dedicated to not only to collecting top titles - but they were in the 
best condition possible short of being restored.

There is one particular title in my head that if it ever comes up again - I 
will chase it even though I have so few years ahead of me vs. behind me.  The 
title and format are not rare at all - it's not even worth .  But it was 
written upon in a specific way - that's special only to me - hence I only want 
the EXACT poster I used to own - back in my house!  I don't even know who the 
buyer is or if it's changed hands or has a new owner in the US or overseas!  Is 
this crazy / irrational or what?

The collecting impulse still lives - even though I consider myself "mostly 
retired" from collecting!  Being superstitious until, as they say, the pink 
slip of ownership is in hand - that I won't reveal it here just in case it EVER 
turns up again in a sale.  It's still desirable but can never be as special to 
someone else as it was to me.  I sold it in a weak moment and if it turns up 
again, it's understandable that I don't want ANY competition! - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Glenn Taranto 

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:07 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Poster Story 21 years in the making!

Hello Folks!

I'm wondering if anyone else has a similar story...

Just about 21 years ago a Richard Dix half-sheet appeared on eBay that can only 
be described as "really adorable". It's from a 1921Goldwyn picture called 
DANGEROUS CURVE AHEAD. It features a couple, Helene Chadwick and Richard Dix, 
smiling at each other as they huddle over a baby in a bassinet. As Goldwyn did 
in those days, the poster is entitled, The First Baby. The one sheet has a 
similar image but the half sheet, in my humble opinion captures the moment 
better.

Naturally when I saw that poster on eBay I wanted very much to add it to my 
burgeoning Richard Dix collection. Sadly I lost out to one of our esteemed 
colleagues! Naturally I was tremendously disappointed but you all know the 
feeling. When are you ever going to see a then 80 year-old poster like that 
ever again? It's just never gonna happen.

If you can believe it, about a month ago while enjoying my poster collection I 
thought back to that auction as if it were yesterday and thought, "Wouldn't it 
be nice to add that poster to my collection before I face the final fadeout?". 
Well three weeks later while doing an eBay search what do I see? That poster. 
Not an additional copy, God knows there can't be another, the actual one I lost 
out on. I know this because I knew who won it and they were putting up for 
auction after lo these many years. I just couldn't believe my eyes.

I eagerly sat by my computer on that last day waiting to type in my bid, 
figuring there were likely dozens and dozens of people interested in this gem 
as I was. Would I get it? Would I be disappointed again? I don't think I can 
wait another 21 years. Time, unfortunately, would likely not permit it. As the 
seconds ticked down I put in my bid hoping it would be enough. You know I 
pictured all those dozens of people doing the same thing. In the end it was 
just me. I won it!!! 21 years after I first saw it. What a great feeling.

The poster arrived today and it's even better in person. A small loose end in 
my mind has finally been tied up and perhaps now the whole world will finally 
right itself!

Has anyone else ever experienced something this with a poster?

BTW - here's a link to the image... 
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MU0AAOSwcHZj4Ce7/s-l1600.jpg

Thanks for reading -

Glenn



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Re: [MOPO] Posting a pic to Mopo

[David Kusumoto]

Yes web-links are the only workaround, esp. if you're writing "customized" 
posts and you want to share your OWN pics.  You need a third-party image 
web-host that can cost as low as $20 a year - so that your OWN images can 
appear in MoPo posts or for work and personal emails esp. when attachments are 
too large for email programs to handle (and then you end up using Google Drive 
or DropBox to share giant files).

Some email programs block such "off-site" images - but not all, e.g., when you 
get an email from a big merchant with whom you've previously done business, 
most are formatted and retail product images appear because they're not 
attachments - but hosted off-site.  I have not yet found a way to web-host 
videos (files are way too large anyway) which in that case I only provide a 
standard link / URL for people to click on if they want.

But web-hosting images in emails is quite easy.

For example - there should be two (2) images below of a rare 1958 high school 
yearbook in which Raquel Welch appears nine (9) times - that I've had up for on 
fleaBay.  If you don't see them - it means the images are blocked by your email 
program.  If so, instead you'll see a bare link to where each image is located. 
 The images are NOT attached to this email at all - but still appear "in line" 
as part of the body text.  This is preferred for me because most recipients 
don't like clicking on unfamiliar links which take them off the current page 
they're reading. -d.

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Re: [MOPO] "You left something out of my package"!

[David Kusumoto]

Hilarious!  I'm trying to think if I ever pushed a seller into a corner about 
something I was positive I bought but in fact - I had not.  In your example, I 
wonder why the "buyer who really wasn't" - didn't simply check his own payment 
/ CC record to verify amounts actually paid - before saying "hey, you left out 
something."  With extended bidding - (which I prefer) - there is no third-party 
eBay-style sniping allowed (that I know of) on your platform - so I wonder how 
the buyer made such a mistake.  I always verify the closing bidding page before 
submitting payments for anything. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Bruce Hershenson 

Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 4:34 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: "You left something out of my package"!

One of the most frustrating emails an online seller can receive is one where a 
buyer says "You left something out of my package".

I imagine many sellers DO regularly forget to include an item in some or many 
orders, but my company, eMoviePoster.com, NEVER does this.

How can I say "never"? Two reasons. One is that when our auctions end, we DON'T 
put the items aside and pull the orders as they are paid for, creating the 
chance that at the end, items that were missed being pulled are "left over".
Instead, we pull ALL the items for every order, dividing them into "who got 
what", so if anything is somehow overlooked, we can "go back" and put it in the 
correct order.

The other reason is that a remarkable man, Paul Ericson, oversees this entire 
process, and over well over a decade he has devised a process whereby almost no 
mistakes of any kind EVER happen!

So EVERY time I get an email saying "You left something out of my package", I 
ask them to go back through EVERY bit of packaging, and I assure them it almost 
surely WILL be located, and EVERY time they do (often one or more days later, 
usually after insisting there is NO way they missed seeing the item).

Now this shows how incredibly honest poster collectors are! None of them ever 
stand by their story, even though it means they have to make an embarrassing 
phone call (or write an equally embarrassing email) stating they messed up and 
"missed" what was right in front of their eyes!

But yesterday I had a new wrinkle happen in this regard! As I was leaving work 
a buyer frantically emailed that the most expensive item he had bought had been 
left out of his order.

I quickly emailed him my standard reply, to SUPER carefully check every bit of 
packaging, and to of course not throw anything out until the missing poster was 
located, and then went home.

This morning I received two emails from him. The first said "This ain't my 
first rodeo" and detailed (with images) how there was NO chance the poster was 
in the package.

I soon received a second one, and I expected it would sheepishly say the poster 
had been located. But he did not write that. Instead, he said he went back to 
the original auctions he bought from, and he discovered he had been outbid on 
that poster at the last minute, so the "missing" poster was not there because 
he not won it! Just when you think you have "heard it all", someone comes up 
with something brand new!


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Re: [MOPO] Sight & Sound’s top 100 Greatest Films of All Time 2022

[David Kusumoto]

As I wrote elsewhere on FB - In my view (opinion, not necessarily fact) -

The recent trend of being "inclusive" - has come at the expense of universally 
admired "classics" which - until this list - would show up every time. So many 
great films were not just "re-ordered" - but KICKED OFF, i.e., "Lawrence of 
Arabia." There's no value for a point-by-point riposte for the selections - as 
I think the goal was to signal "how great and more enlightened us younger 
critics are" - but also - to get boomers and traditional film historians riled 
up.

"Parasite" making the list just three years after being released is the most 
obvious example of recency bias. Second most obvious is "Jeanne Dielman" 
finished "#1" - but finished #36 in the 2012 poll - the biggest jump to #1 in 
history. (I saw the film last year only because it's now a Criterion issue and 
it's as arty as it is dull, worthy maybe, but not in my top 25.)

Until now, this list had NEVER ranked a film released within ten years prior. I 
now imagine that when the BFI re-issues its separate list of the "greatest 
British films ever made" - that classics like "The Third Man," "Brief 
Encounter," and "Lawrence of Arabia" will all fall out of the top 10.

Meanwhile, at least the simultaneously released S 2022 DIRECTORS' poll - 
induces some heartburn, but FAR less:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/directors-100-greatest-films-all-time
Directors’ 100 Greatest Films of All Time | 
BFI
Every decade since 1992, Sight and Sound has complemented its celebrated 
critics’ poll by formally sounding out the world’s leading directors on the ten 
films they believe to be the greatest of all time. Though it has always been 
global and inclusive in scope, the poll has expanded significantly each decade. 
In 1992, 101 directors voted; fast-forward to 2012, when 358 filmmakers took 
part.
www.bfi.org.uk



From: MoPo List  on behalf of Bruce Hershenson 

Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 5:37 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Sight & Sound’s top 100 Greatest Films of All Time 2022

I am likely one of the only people here who saw all of the almost 4 HOURS of 
“Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxel” in a theater. and it the 
ultimate case of The Emperor's New Clothes! How the 1,500 people who made this 
dreadful pretentious list did so, apparently with a straight face, is beyond 
me. Oh wait, there are very few comedies on the list, indicating these people 
completely lack a sense of humor. The order of the movies is flat-out 
ridiculous. But I am more bothered by the films and directors left off, than 
the ones included. And they were "bumped" off to make room for recent movies, 
movies by women, and movies by minorities. Shouldn't a "greatest" list 
completely ignore those factors? Just admit it is a list that is designed to 
get people to see many great overlooked movies, and I am fine with it. But a 
list of the "100 Greatest Films of All Time"? Not remotely close on ANY level.
Sight & Sound’s top 100 Greatest Films of All Time 2022
1. “Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxel” (Chantal Akerman, 1975)
2. “Vertigo” (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
3. “Citizen Kane” (Orson Welles, 1941)
4. “Tokyo Story” (Ozu Yasujiro, 1953)
5. “In the Mood for Love, Wong Kar-wai, 2001)
6. “2001: A Space Odyssey” (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
7. “Beau travail” (Claire Denis, 1998)
8. “Mulholland Dr.” (David Lynch, 2001)
9. “Man with a Movie Camera” (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
10. “Singin’ in the Rain” (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1951)
11. “Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans” (F.W. Murnau, 1927)
12. “The Godfather” (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
13. “La Règle du Jeu” (Jean Renoir, 1939)
14. “Cléo from 5 to 7” (Agnès Varda, 1962)
15. “The Searchers” (John Ford, 1956)
16. “Meshes of the Afternoon” (Maya Deren and Alexander Hammid, 1943)
17. “Close-Up” (Abbas Kiarostami, 1989)
18. “Persona” (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)
19. “Apocalypse Now” (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
20. “Seven Samurai” (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)
21. (TIE) “The Passion of Joan of Arc” (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1927)
21. (TIE) “Late Spring” (Ozu Yasujiro, 1949)
23. “Playtime” (Jacques Tati, 1967)
24. “Do the Right Thing” (Spike Lee, 1989)
25. (TIE) “Au Hasard Balthazar” (Robert Bresson, 1966)
25. (TIE) The Night of the Hunter” (Charles Laughton, 1955)
27. “Shoah” (Claude Lanzmann, 1985)
28. “Daisies” (Věra Chytilová, 1966)
29. “Taxi Driver” (Martin Scorsese, 1976)
30. “Portrait of a Lady on Fire” (Céline Sciamma, 2019)
31. (TIE) “Mirror” (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
31. (TIE) “8½” (Federico Fellini, 1963)
31. (TIE) “Psycho” (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
34. “L’Atalante” (Jean Vigo, 1934)
35. “Pather Panchali” (Satyajit Ray, 1955)
36. (TIE) “City Lights” (Charlie Chaplin, 1931)
36. (TIE) “M” (Fritz Lang, 1931)
38. (TIE) “À bout de souffle” (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)
38. (TIE) “Some Like It Hot” (Billy Wilder, 1959)
38. (TIE) 

Re: [MOPO] Casablanca collection on display in NYC

[David Kusumoto]

Thanks to everyone who wrote publicly and privately about my temporary web-host 
of the NYT's "Casablanca" article that Chris Quarles posted the other day. (I 
sometimes worry about this group because in its early years, everyone posted 
from a keyboard.  Now "most everyone" posts from their phones hence to me 
there's far less chatter.)

Meanwhile, too bad "Casablanca" is ranked #63 on the latest Sight & Sound poll. 
 On the upside, it was ranked #84 in 2012 - so it did "move up" in that now 
crappy / discredited CRITICS' poll.

To me the beauty is that 6-sheet - which I remember Rudy Franchi shepherded 
more than 20 years ago at Christie's.  (I can't believe that frame in the NYT 
photo.)  I wonder who else might own one?

I once owned a restored but more affordable WC - which has similar art.  (I 
consigned it to Bruce twelve years ago and it fetched more than $7K.) -d.

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From: texasmu...@web.de 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 6:23 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Aw: Re: [MOPO] Casablanca collection on display in NYC

Thanks for sharing, David. I wish I could go to NY and see these in person.

This reminds of a CASABLANCA auction José Ma Carpio put together sometime in 
the late 90s. I believe it was in New York, but I don‘t remember if he worked 
for Christies or Sothebys at the time. Either one of them.

José‘s idea was to offer as many CASABLANCA posters as he could get hold of in 
a single auction, and he managed to find quite a few. This must‘ve been before 
Mr. Lauder started collecting. I attended the auction, and it was a modest 
success, to put it mildly. Quite frankly: It turned out to be not a really good 
idea after all at the time, the market was still way too small for a concept 
like that. I remember I had a German CASABLANCA in that sale. José had 
convinced me to get it linenbacked and it passed at $1000 or something.

I had this poster for quite a while, and there was ZERO international interest 
didn‘t have Bogart on it and the collectors in Germany refused it because it 
was linenbacked, which was totally unacceptable at the time. I eventually 
re-consigned it to Christies South Kensington and they sold it for something 
like $7000 or so. I don‘t remember the exact amount, but they sent me a hefty 
check that came quite unexpected.

Helmut

https://www.filmposter.net/en/

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From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 8:00 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Casablanca collection on display in NYC

I don't know why I even bother anymore - *he said crankily* - but here it is. 
Up on my web host for just a couple of days. The NYT writer couldn't help but 
inject a panoply of contemporaneous political "echos" / "teachable moments" 
normally reserved for the political opinion pages - nevertheless, the few pics 
featured are nice.  (If the images don't show up, lemme know and I'll post 
direct links.) -d.

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By Jason Farago for the New York Times - Thursday, Dec. 1, 2022

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Ronald Lauder's personal collection of memorabilia from "Casablanca" fills a 
room of the Neue Galerie, on the Upper East Side.


Round up the unusual suspects. "Casablanca" has turned 80, and the most 
esteemed of all Hollywood classics enters its octogenarian years with a new 
ultra-high-definition DVD release.

There's also, right now in New York, an engaging new display of "Casablanca" 
artifacts, though you won't find it at MoMA or the Museum of the Moving Image. 
Of all the joints in all the towns in all the world, the relics of this paragon 
of the Hollywood studio system have ended up in … a museum of German and 
Austrian modern art.

That would be the Neue Galerie, conceived by the cosmetics baron Ronald S. 
Lauder and the art dealer Serge Sabarsky (1912-1996), which opened in 2001 in a 
former Vanderbilt mansion on a prime corner of Fifth Avenue.

It's celebrating its first 20 years with a showcase of its surviving founder's 
own collection: not only jewels of modern Mitteleuropa, but ancient sculpture, 
medieval broadswords and reliquaries, and gleaming oddities from Renaissance 
cabinets of curiosities.
Least expected are more than five dozen posters, 

Re: [MOPO] Casablanca collection on display in NYC

[David Kusumoto]

I don't know why I even bother anymore - *he said crankily* - but here it is. 
Up on my web host for just a couple of days. The NYT writer couldn't help but 
inject a panoply of contemporaneous political "echos" / "teachable moments" 
normally reserved for the political opinion pages - nevertheless, the few pics 
featured are nice.  (If the images don't show up, lemme know and I'll post 
direct links.) -d.

-

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By Jason Farago for the New York Times - Thursday, Dec. 1, 2022

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Ronald Lauder's personal collection of memorabilia from "Casablanca" fills a 
room of the Neue Galerie, on the Upper East Side.


Round up the unusual suspects. "Casablanca" has turned 80, and the most 
esteemed of all Hollywood classics enters its octogenarian years with a new 
ultra-high-definition DVD release.

There's also, right now in New York, an engaging new display of "Casablanca" 
artifacts, though you won't find it at MoMA or the Museum of the Moving Image. 
Of all the joints in all the towns in all the world, the relics of this paragon 
of the Hollywood studio system have ended up in … a museum of German and 
Austrian modern art.

That would be the Neue Galerie, conceived by the cosmetics baron Ronald S. 
Lauder and the art dealer Serge Sabarsky (1912-1996), which opened in 2001 in a 
former Vanderbilt mansion on a prime corner of Fifth Avenue.

It's celebrating its first 20 years with a showcase of its surviving founder's 
own collection: not only jewels of modern Mitteleuropa, but ancient sculpture, 
medieval broadswords and reliquaries, and gleaming oddities from Renaissance 
cabinets of curiosities.
Least expected are more than five dozen posters, lobby cards, props and press 
materials from the collector's favorite movie, which he reports seeing "at 
least 25 to 30 times" — and whose memorabilia he has been buying up with 
foxhound-grade avidity.

"The Ronald S. Lauder Collection" had its grand opening on the evening of 
November's midterm elections — whose result, by the way, Lauder may have 
decisively influenced, having spent millions on lawsuits and campaign 
advertising for Republicans in New York, where the G.O.P. flipped four 
congressional seats. (Among his animating causes are crime, taxes, and a 
proposed wind farm off the Hamptons shoreline.)

"I'm no ogre," Lauder assured The Times this month in an interview at Café 
Sabarsky, the charmingly ersatz Viennese cafe on the Neue Galerie's ground 
floor, and, certainly, the 500-odd objects here do not have an outward 
suggestion of barbarism. If anything, its rooms of princely baubles are rather 
oversaturated, as if Lauder didn't know where to stop; drawings by Egon Schiele 
are hung sky-high, essentially invisible, and stuffed vitrines induced in me 
the novel feeling of ivory fatigue.

The unexpected highlight is the "Casablanca" gallery, the show's smallest and 
densest, which in its way fits right into an institution devoted to Central 
European genius and American inheritances.

Its walls are covered with soft-focus images of Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid 
Bergman, and posters both printed and painted. ("They Have a Date With Fate in 
… CASABLANCA," reads one hand-lettered display from 1942, the title sparkling 
gold.)

Lobby cards — those black-and-white stills you'd once see by the popcorn stand 
— take us back to the louche purgatory of Rick's Café Américain, where the 
dashing Resistance hero Victor Laszlo (Paul Henreid) is gathering intelligence, 
and the charmingly corrupt Captain Renault (Claude Rains) is sizing up the 
loveliest exiles.


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Posters and lobby cards cover the walls with images of the film's stars, 
Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman.

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Detail of a brass lamp, fringed with imitation jewels, used in the movie.

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A hand-lettered display from 1942 announces the film's title in sparkling gold.


You'll also 

Re: [MOPO] FA: Second Ever Major Mondo Print Auction ends in just ONE day, 2,530 prints in all!

[David Kusumoto]

I bought an On the Waterfront Olly Moss for about $30 more than 10 years ago - 
(with the orange pigeon overlay) - at a time when there was early ridicule on 
MoPo - about whether these striking posters had value.  At the time my thought 
was maybe not $$ value - but definitely collectible / sentimental value.  I 
thought the Moss art was more striking than the 1954 one-sheet I used to own.  
Consigned it to eMoviePoster - and it scored at $190.  It's not even the best 
nor close to the most $$$ Olly Moss - but his name still has cachet and plays 
well for some of his more popular titles.  Fast forward to today - the thing 
about Mondo posters is while the usual suspects always sell big - I still keep 
my eyes on "less popular" titles which "slip through the cracks" and are more 
affordable. - d.

From: MoPo List  on behalf of Moviemem Original 
Movie Posters 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 5:33 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: FA: Second Ever Major Mondo Print Auction ends in just ONE day, 
2,530 prints in all!


I have a few. Anyone else?



Regards



John



John Reid

Moviemem Original Movie Posters

www.moviemem.com

PO Box 92

Elanora

Qld 4221

Australia

Phone: 0414 720 369





From: MoPo List  On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson
Sent: 27 October, 2022 3:15 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: Second Ever Major Mondo Print Auction ends in just ONE 
day, 2,530 prints in all!



Thanks much Tom! I wonder if even one MoPo member has ever bought even ONE 
Mondo art print!

If not, this might be a great time to start!



On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:06 AM 
mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
 wrote:

best wishes on a great sale Bruce !!
Tom\
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977


On 2022-10-26 08:38, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
> My company's (eMoviePoster.com's) extra special Second Ever Major
> Mondo Print Auction ends in just ONE day, on Thursday the 27th,
> starting at 7 PM CT, at 
> http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/14.html
> [1]
>
> This special auction has many highly prized Mondo rarities in it
> (2,530 in all!) which will deservedly sell for high prices, but it
> also has quite a few really cool Mondo prints that will almost surely
> sell for bargain prices.
>
> As of this writing, with around a day and a half until they start to
> close, there are still an amazing THREE HUNDRED NINETY THREE at just
> $2 to $20 each, and an even more amazing SIX HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT at
> just $2 to $30!
>
> And there is a wonderful bonus for ALL buyers (even if you solely buy
> one print, no matter how low the price). Tim League, the founder of
> Alamo Drafthouse and Mondo wants to PERSONALLY thank all those who buy
> from this auction!
>
> So everyone  who buys at least one art print receives a very special
> double-sided 9" x 12" art print, which shows cool vintage print ads
> for "Twenty Essential Films To See Before You Die", as chosen by famed
> indie director Robert Rodriguez.
>
> And EVERY one of those special bonus prints (which Tim personally
> printed with the help of his daughter!) are hand-numbered and signed
> "Thank you, Tim League" so that every buyer knows just how much Tim
> appreciates your participating!
>
> And there is more! There is also a second version of the above
> double-sided 9" x 12" art print with different coloring, and there are
> only 250 of those, and all those are hand-numbered and signed by
> Robert Rodriguez, and thosel ONLY go to the 250 people who spend the
> most in this special auction!
>
> And there is NO way to get either of the above bonus prints EXCEPT by
> buying from this auction! So buy ANY one print on Thursday and get the
> limited edition signed bonus print as well! You get two for the price
> of one (they won't be sold ANY other way, except in the aftermarket)!
>
> HOW MANY TIMES IN YOUR LIFE HAVE YOU DONATED TO CHARITIES OR
> FUNDRAISERS? It may be as simple as buying Girl Scout cookies or candy
> bars from your child's school, or it may be from a "telethon" for a
> major charity, or it may be a solicitation from a hospital or other
> place in need.
>
> In most cases you either get nothing back (except for the satisfaction
> of helping a worthy cause) or you get 

Re: [MOPO] Angela Lansbury 1925-2022

[David Kusumoto]

She could play innocent ingenue and dangerous vixen, younger and older than her 
real age - a Brit who became a superstar in America, also considered one of the 
all-time greats on Broadway and on the West End.

My fav perf of hers, though, (besides the Manchurian Candidate) - is how hot 
she plays the Machiavellian femme fatale power broker in 1948's "State of the 
Union" with Hepburn and Tracy. She's a knockout in that and steals the picture 
as an alluringly ruthless sexpot who's super smart and funny. She also did a 
good job playing a sleek and slim film noir killer in the little seen "A Life 
at Stake" in 1955. She was already in her 60s when "Murder, She Wrote" became 
popular with millions. She sang sweet Disney on one hand and then sang horror 
with Sweeney Todd on the other.  Brilliant.

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From: MoPo List  on behalf of Scott Burns 

Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 2:00 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Angela Lansbury 1925-2022


Sad to see that Angela Lansbury has died at age 96, just five days before her 
97th. What a career, “Gaslight,” “The Manchurian Candidate,” “Bedknobs and 
Broomsticks”…to name just a few. Always enjoyed  1962’s “All Fall Down,” such a 
quirky film, as was her performance. Of course she’ll always be remembered as 
Jessica Fletcher in “Murder, She Wrote.” More about her here:



https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/angela-lansbury-dead-murder-she-wrote-beauty-and-the-beast-1235399636/



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[MOPO] Former eBay Executive Sentenced to Prison for Cyberstalking Campaign

[David Kusumoto]

Former eBay Executive Sentenced to Prison for Cyberstalking Campaign
Campaign involved threatening emails, fake Craigslist posts and mysterious 
deliveries to bloggers

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Former eBay executive James Baugh pleaded guilty in April to participating in a 
series of attacks on e-commerce bloggers David and Ina Steiner.
Photo: Lane Turner/Associated Press.

By Sebastian Herrera and Alyssa Lukpat for the Wall Street Journal
Thursday, September 29, 2022

A former eBay Inc. executive at the center of a harassment campaign against two 
bloggers was sentenced in a Massachusetts federal court Thursday to four years 
and nine months in prison, authorities said.

The former executive, James Baugh, pleaded guilty in April to participating in 
a series of attacks on the bloggers, David and Ina Steiner. The Steiners ran a 
niche e-commerce blog that eBay executives perceived as critical of the 
company, according to court documents.

“This should serve as a strong reminder to all that holding positions of wealth 
and privilege does not absolve or shield criminals from accountability and 
incarceration,” U.S. Attorney Rachael S. Rollins said Thursday in a statement. 
EBay didn’t respond to a request for comment. An attorney for Mr. Baugh 
declined to comment.

Mr. Baugh was part of a team of security officials who in 2020 were charged 
with taking part in a weekslong harassment campaign that included threatening 
emails and tweets, fake posts on Craigslist and the mysterious deliveries 
against the Steiners, prosecutors said.

Mr. Baugh later admitted that for several weeks in 2019, he conspired with 
other eBay employees to send the Steiners threatening messages and creepy 
deliveries in the mail, among other things.



Their campaign started with pranks inspired by the 1988 movie “Johnny Be Good.” 
The employees sent threatening emails and tweets to the Steiners. For more than 
two decades, the couple, who were professional collectors, ran a blog called 
EcommerceBytes that focused on eBay and Amazon.com Inc.

Then Mr. Baugh and his co-workers escalated their tactics from messages to 
stalking and more sinister threats. The Steiners believed suspicious vehicles 
were tailing them near their home in the Boston suburb of Natick. They received 
mysterious packages, like a box of live cockroaches, a bloody pig mask and a 
book about surviving a spouse’s death.



Their campaign drew attention in 2020 after the employees, all members of 
eBay’s security team, were each charged with conspiracy to commit cyberstalking 
and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses.

The saga also involved two of eBay’s highest ranking officials, former eBay CEO 
Devin Wenig and his chief communications officer, Steve Wymer.

The cyberstalking campaign was launched soon after the two executives embarked 
on a more aggressive public-relations strategy that included challenging 
publications such as EcommerceBytes. According to an affidavit, Mr. Wymer 
texted Mr. Wenig that they would “crush this lady,” referring to Ms. Steiner.



Mr. Wenig and Mr. Wymer, who are no longer at eBay, have said they would not 
condone or participate in any harassment campaign. The two haven’t been charged.



The Steiners last year sued eBay, Mr. Wenig and the other associates alleging 
violations under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. The 
Steiners allege that the stalking campaign was not a rogue act by a few 
individuals, but one resembling organized crime by eBay and its top officials.

“We believe everyone who played a role should be held accountable,” Ms. Steiner 
wrote in a blog post Wednesday. The case is ongoing.



A spokesman for Mr. Wenig said an independent investigation showed the former 
CEO had no knowledge of the harassment campaign, and that the prosecutors in 
the case made it clear that Mr. Baugh was responsible.

“Devin never told anyone to do anything unethical or illegal and if he had 
known about it, he would have stopped it,” the spokesman said.

One of the security officials, David Harville, on Thursday was sentenced to two 
years in prison.

The other former eBay employees involved—Philip Cooke, Brian Gilbert, Stephanie 
Popp, Veronica Zea and Stephanie Stockwell—previously pleaded guilty for their 
roles in a conspiracy to cyberstalk.

Mr. Cooke was sentenced last year to 18 months in prison.

Mr. Gilbert, Ms. Popp, Ms. Zea and Ms. Stockwell haven’t yet been sentenced.

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Re: [MOPO] 1942 U.S. JAPANESE INTERNMENT WWII 14x22 POSTER

[David Kusumoto]

I just wanted to dash off a quick public note of thanks to the MoPo group / 
members for their friendly / supportive messages I've received since last night 
about what I wrote about this poster.  One never knows how people will react to 
such things - and even though I've a rep for being long-winded on a keyboard 
throughout my long membership at MoPo - I concede that what I wrote did make me 
feel a little nervous before hitting the "send" button.  Obviously, the bidding 
since then - already guarantees I will get more than what I paid for this 
rather obscure item - that is part of history - and - that it will go to 
someone who appreciates it as something that should be preserved and not 
discarded, as so many of these posters did not survive.  Thank you again! -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 5:45 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: 1942 U.S. JAPANESE INTERNMENT WWII 14x22 POSTER SELLS TOMORROW

I usually don't do this in relation to anything I consign to Bruce's auctions - 
but ever since I agreed to be named as the consignor / former owner of the 
aforementioned poster - I've gotten several personal messages about it.  
Vintage originals from 1942 are extremely difficult to find - probably for good 
reason - and are mostly only available in repro sizes printed on paper - vs. 
originals like mine which were printed on heavy 14x22 card stock.

I was actually a little surprised that Bruce agreed to put this into his major 
sale - because while I thought it was a rare museum piece - I felt it had low 
value because of what it represents.  It's not a Tiffany's poster - but it is 
history.  He asked if he could name me as consignor and add details about my 
personal connection to it - and I said no problem.

I told one fellow that I thought my obscure poster could be had for under $100 
- because that's about what I paid for it many years ago from a book seller.  I 
told him I didn't think my poster would ever be as desired as a war poster by 
Norman Rockwell or Howard Christy Chandler.

However, after Bruce's sale began - (which closes tomorrow Sunday at 3pm 
Central Time) - a rare book dealer surfaced on eBay asking $2500 to $5800 for 
his originals - all, in my view, in lesser condition.  I don't consider my 
poster worth that, but what do I know?  If you're curious about the eBay ones, 
they're item 384512692484 and 324896907576.

Bruce's sale is here - and compared to what's on eBay, it's more affordable and 
in superior condition - followed by an image of what my poster looked like in 
the frame after I took it down from my wall:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail_uid1=6222858<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fauctions.emovieposter.com%2FBidding.taf%3F_function%3Ddetail%26Auction_uid1%3D6222858=04%7C01%7C%7C460059a7fa1247519c5508da2028748e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637857655381908030%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=WWIanbfTNQOhv7PD3U7r06%2BVpGIDiejxyCkgRuewmkg%3D=0>
[https://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA220327/550/war_instructions_to_all_persons_of_japanese_ancestry_a_WC34242_B.jpg]<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fauctions.emovieposter.com%2FBidding.taf%3F_function%3Ddetail%26Auction_uid1%3D6222858=04%7C01%7C%7C460059a7fa1247519c5508da2028748e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637857655381908030%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=WWIanbfTNQOhv7PD3U7r06%2BVpGIDiejxyCkgRuewmkg%3D=0>
2a0425 INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL PERSONS OF JAPANESE ANCESTRY 14x22 WWII war poster 
1942 about 
internment!<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fauctions.emovieposter.com%2FBidding.taf%3F_function%3Ddetail%26Auction_uid1%3D6222858=04%7C01%7C%7C460059a7fa1247519c5508da2028748e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637857655381908030%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=WWIanbfTNQOhv7PD3U7r06%2BVpGIDiejxyCkgRuewmkg%3D=0>
This auction item is offered online by eMoviePoster.com. Please visit the 
website to view a complete listing description.
auctions.emovieposter.com

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Some background about what this poster meant to me:

My poster had darkly sentimental value because my stepmother - along with ALL 
of my Japanese-American relatives living in California and Washington - all 
with full U.S. citizenship like me and literate in English - were interned in 
the aftermath of Pearl Harbor from 1942-1945.  It's not the kind of poster most 
people want because of its content - and - because of its stark black and white 
text.  Very few survive.

And because I didn't want my poster to represent a personal stat

[MOPO] 1942 U.S. JAPANESE INTERNMENT WWII 14x22 POSTER SELLS TOMORROW

[David Kusumoto]

 got a $25K check 
in 1988 - ($61K in today's dollars) - after Reagan signed that reparations bill 
for survivors.  These reparations and formal apology from America - were for 
people who LIVED in those camps who were STILL ALIVE more than 40 years later.  
They were NOT for "surviving descendants" like me who were never incarcerated 
by the government. I've got no beef with that.  The people who did this are now 
dead.)

Even though the camps were built with barbed wire and guns on corner towers - 
very few people died in those camps.  It was a personal liberties issue.  They 
were NOT the torture and death factories in Japan and Germany during WWII - 
where prisoner survival rates were low.  The internment camps were cold and 
harsh - but survival rates were high.  No one in the Japanese internment camps 
in the U.S. was sent to a the "cooler" like Steve McQueen in "The Great Escape."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
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Internment of Japanese Americans - 
Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans>
In the 1930s, the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), concerned as a result of 
Imperial Japan's rising military power in Asia, began to conduct surveillance 
in Japanese-American communities in Hawaii. Starting in 1936, at the behest of 
President Roosevelt, the ONI began to compile a "special list of those Japanese 
Americans who would be the first to be placed in a concentration camp in the ...
en.wikipedia.org
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JAPANESE AMERICAN INTERNMENT ORDER (May 5, 1942) - original unrestored 14 x 22 
UNFOLDED poster on heavy card stock, very good to fine condition with some age 
toning and minor wear to top edge including upper left corner of back which 
bleeds through to the front's upper right corner.  Never backed nor folded 
since issued in 1942.  Provenance:  David Kusumoto collection.  Vintage 
ORIGINAL Japanese internment evacuation notice, San Francisco, May 1942, 
Civilian Exclusion Order No. 41 ordered by U.S. Army Lt. General J. L. DeWitt - 
and signed by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt via Executive Order 9066 on 
February 19, 1942 in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor - which led to the 
incarceration of 110,000 people of Japanese ancestry in the Pacific coast 
states of California, Washington and Oregon. (Canada issued similar orders for 
British Columbia.)  Difficult to find in any condition.  (Repros exist in 
smaller sizes.)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail_uid1=6222858
[https://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA220327/550/war_instructions_to_all_persons_of_japanese_ancestry_a_WC34242_B.jpg]<http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail_uid1=6222858>
2a0425 INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL PERSONS OF JAPANESE ANCESTRY 14x22 WWII war poster 
1942 about 
internment!<http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail_uid1=6222858>
This auction item is offered online by eMoviePoster.com. Please visit the 
website to view a complete listing description.
auctions.emovieposter.com
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How it looked before I took it out of its frame:
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Front without frame:

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3666/QDhXvA.jpg]

Back without frame:

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1553/pmG9mW.jpg]

At any rate, that's all.  Hope this was mildly informative to those who were 
interested. -d.


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Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

[David Kusumoto]

Hi John

Yes, that's absolutely correct, at least for me, a collector who's a 
non-participant in any eBay promotional selling programs for high volume 
dealers.  I had to go to THREE (3) DIFFERENT PAGES to get screen shots to 
figure out what eBay is doing.  And I've assembled them onto one image - with 
my annotations below.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/471/ckebOM.jpg
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From: Moviemem Original Movie Posters 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 1:50 PM
To: David Kusumoto ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Subject: RE: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.


Hi David

Are you saying that eBay is including the VAT that they collected when 
calculating the Final value fee? My understanding was that they calculated 
their final value fees on the total of the sale of the item plus postage. They 
then add a small “international” fee. I didn’t think that they included the VAT 
when calculating the final value fee but I could be wrong.



Regards



John



John Reid

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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of David 
Kusumoto
Sent: 15 April, 2022 8:28 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my 
R2018 Louise Brooks poster.



Three days after posting this on MoPo - My Louise Brooks poster (see preceding 
email below) - sold for $50 yesterday.  I knew about the USPS and UPS 
surcharges for poster tubes - but for some stupid reason - I thought eBay - for 
those of us who aren't part of its global shipping program - are availed to 
access discounted shipping rates for non-dealers under what's called "eBay 
International Delivery" - whereby eBay provides point-to-point service 
including dealing with customs, etc. - before handing items off to each 
country's contracted delivery service.  eBay International Delivery provides 
full tracking options.



After a UK buyer won the poster for $50 - (plus a "displayed" eBay 
International Delivery rate of $38 to the UK + $17.60 VAT, etc. = a whopping 
$105.60) - for a poster shipped in a 32x3x3 tube - I was shocked to learn after 
I packed the thing - that eBay International Delivery - NOW prevents shipping 
items longer than 27 inches in length.  It warned of severe penalties, e.g., 
higher tack-on costs - for shippers breaking its new dimension and weight rules.



I was thus forced to purchase USPS Priority International Mail - at a cost of 
$67.17. Higher than the "retail" cost of the $50 poster itself.



Of course I still honored the deal - because it's not the buyer's fault when a 
seller incurs higher than expected shipping costs.  He paid $38 for shipping 
whie my actual shipping for Priority Mail International I was forced to use - 
was $67.17 -  which meant I absorbed the $29.17 difference between my $67.17 
and his $38 contribution.  Thus - after paying seller fees of $10.14 on a $50 
poster + the $29.17 difference for shipping = this poster just netted me only 
$10.69.



I became obsessed with eBay's ultra-complicated / Byzantine fee structure I 
here's what I found after my mishap:



TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:

Louise Brooks Poster $ 50.00

Buyer Paid Shipping  $ 38.00

VAT* $ 17.60

---

TOTAL PAID BY BUYER: $105.60



===



TOTAL FEES I PAID -

First, here's eBay's "cost basis" -

Louise Brooks Poster   $50.00

VAT   +$17.60

--

eBay Fees are based on $67.60



==

eBay Fees breakdown:



Variable % • Entertainment Memorabilia

Rate for items sold up to $7,500.00 is 12.9%



$67.60 cost basis × 12.9% =   -$ 8.72



International Fee because buyer is in the U.K.

$67.60 cost basis × 1.65% =   -$ 1.12

--

Insertion (FVF) Fee   -$ 0.30

--

Total eBay fees   -$10.14



==

eBay's calculations to me:

Buyer paid $50 for poster + $38 for shipping =  $88.00

Minus Fees based on $67.60 (see above) -$10.14

--

Subtotal Net$77.86

Minus Priority Mail In

Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

[David Kusumoto]

Hey Sue -

Yeah, it's incredible. In my case - I'm not a dealer hence I don't bulk buy 
shipping tubes.  I just recycle tubes I have.  I'm not going to use a power saw 
to get "standard" 32 inch long one-sheet tubes down to under the surcharge 
maximum.  What was nutty is when I posted the Louise Brooks poster for sale 
several days ago - I inputted the dimensions and even the weight of the package 
BEFORE it sold, i.e., 32x3x3.  I pre-packed it because I knew it would 
eventually sell - and I rolled it between Kraft paper slightly narrower so it 
wouldn't touch the sides of a 3-inch wide tube, the five-star treatment because 
no one likes dings from conveyor belts transferring to posters inside which are 
becoming more common.

It was only AFTER the poster sold - that when I went to print out an eBay 
shipping label - I saw - for the first time - that eBay International Delivery 
to the UK was $38 - but only for packages 27 inches or shorter.  I was SOL.  
Only other option at that point was to get Priority Mail International for 
$67.17 as I wasn't going to "un-do" my pre-packing work to access the $38 
charge. So I absorbed the $29 difference between what the buyer paid and the 
actual cost.

The cautionary for me was seeing how eBay acts as an separate shipping entity 
with its "eBay International Delivery" - with its own contracted rates with 
shippers like UPS, DHL, Royal Mail, etc. - in every country.  There was no 
prior notice about package maximum dimensions until I tried to print out a 
label.

The reason for my post is I don't know how anyone can ship posters overseas 
UNLESS they are mid-to-high retail value so that a dealer can still make money. 
 If this had been a $200 poster, you know, I could justify my one-time 
ignorance and move on.  I would have still made money, however negligible.  But 
this was a $50 poster that did not qualify for eBay International Delivery - 
and the result of my ignorance was a LOSS - with net proceeds of only $10.69.

I could sour grapes the whole thing by saying (truthfully) - that my plan was 
to TACK Louise in my garage because it's a poster that eMoviePoster has sold in 
the past from $40-80, not worth the hassle to consign unless I could send $200 
worth of items to meet his consignment acceptance minimum.  But I put it up on 
eBay via MoPo - because I KNEW, someone would like it.  And the buyer, you 
know, I mean, he paid what I think was a FORTUNE for this poster when you tack 
on his $38 shipping contribution plus VAT.  I'm not going to screw over anyone 
who buys in good faith even though I get screwed by being ignorant about how 
each "shipping system" works, e.g., UPS, USPS, eBay International delivery, 
DHL, FedEx, etc.   So I have no choice but to say - "For a poster I had planned 
to TACK in my garage with the insects out there - a $10.69 pay day is better 
than zero."  COLD COMFORT. -d.


From: Susan Heim 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:06 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ; David Kusumoto 

Subject: Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Hey Dave,
  I hear your pain.so, I ship a lot of tubes and I wasn't notified that in 
January UPS changed the fees for shipping a tube.  I have cases of 32x3x3 
tubes.  So, I got
hit with $15 additional fees on my UPS invoice for all the tubes I shipped in 
January and February.  I wasn't notified of this until the beginning of March.  
When
I typed in the information for the UPS label the price they gave me did not 
include the $15 surcharge and that is the only reason I was able to get them to
reverse those charges.  But from that March date on, I'm on notice of the new 
surcharge and I have not used UPS but rather the post office.  Now, as of last
week, the post office has instituted the $15 surcharge on that tube...Fedex 
instituted the additional $15 charge on that tube last year and I guess 
everyone else
is just following along...I have so many ebay auctions set up that I can't 
really change my shipping and add
$15 to it or it makes the shipping look incredibly high to a buying a 
customer.

   So, Helmut's response to your post made the light go off in my head.I 
will just have to cut my tubes down to under 30".  Since most of what I'm 
shipping
in tubes are rolled one sheets, they are only 27" wide, so even if I cut the 
tube down to 28" or 29", I am under that 30" mark and it will only be $4 more
for additional handling as tubes between 22" and 30" have a $4 additional 
handling charge.  While it's a hassle to cut down the tube, better $4 than $15.

   To be honest, I don't really see how handling a tube is different than 
handling a box, but they will get you anyway they can.  I talked to my rep at 
Fedex
and they said it's because so many tubes roll off the conveyor belt they move 
along on a

Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

[David Kusumoto]

Hi Helmut -

The short answer to your question is I am STUPID.  I used a standard 32 long 
tube typical for 27 inch wide one-sheets to leave a 2 1/2 inch buffer on both 
ends - hence my 32 inch tube left a 4 1/2 inch buffer on both ends for a 23 
inch wide A1 poster.

The long answer to your question is:
1. I am stupid.
2. I didn't have shorter shipping tubes to accommodate an A1 23 inch wide 
poster other than for a few 14 inch wide inserts.
3. I knew about UPS and USPS rules for tubes - but I didn't know that eBay's 
self-touted overseas shipping service, "eBay International Delivery" has a 27 
inch long maximum to access cheaper contracted rates with DHL, Royal Mail, etc.
4. Moving forward, shipping one-sheets will require tubes greater than 27 
inches long - but under 32 inches, which means using a power saw I guess 
because I don't plan future bulk buys of shorter Yazoo tubes.
5. Shipping posters overseas isn't for sissies nor for ignoramuses like me.

David


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 

Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 6:39 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my 
R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

David,

no offense, but why ship a poster that is only 23" long in a 32" tube???

Since the Covid mess started, pretty much all of my US shipments (which are not 
too many anymore) go with UPS or DHL Express. Both companies bill by volume 
weight, and extra size costs serious money. So I always try to keep the 
packaging as small as possible.

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 15.04.2022 um 12:27 schrieb David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>:

for a poster shipped in a 32x3x3 tube - I




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[MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

[David Kusumoto]

Three days after posting this on MoPo - My Louise Brooks poster (see preceding 
email below) - sold for $50 yesterday.  I knew about the USPS and UPS 
surcharges for poster tubes - but for some stupid reason - I thought eBay - for 
those of us who aren't part of its global shipping program - are availed to 
access discounted shipping rates for non-dealers under what's called "eBay 
International Delivery" - whereby eBay provides point-to-point service 
including dealing with customs, etc. - before handing items off to each 
country's contracted delivery service.  eBay International Delivery provides 
full tracking options.

After a UK buyer won the poster for $50 - (plus a "displayed" eBay 
International Delivery rate of $38 to the UK + $17.60 VAT, etc. = a whopping 
$105.60) - for a poster shipped in a 32x3x3 tube - I was shocked to learn after 
I packed the thing - that eBay International Delivery - NOW prevents shipping 
items longer than 27 inches in length.  It warned of severe penalties, e.g., 
higher tack-on costs - for shippers breaking its new dimension and weight rules.

I was thus forced to purchase USPS Priority International Mail - at a cost of 
$67.17. Higher than the "retail" cost of the $50 poster itself.

Of course I still honored the deal - because it's not the buyer's fault when a 
seller incurs higher than expected shipping costs.  He paid $38 for shipping 
whie my actual shipping for Priority Mail International I was forced to use - 
was $67.17 -  which meant I absorbed the $29.17 difference between my $67.17 
and his $38 contribution.  Thus - after paying seller fees of $10.14 on a $50 
poster + the $29.17 difference for shipping = this poster just netted me only 
$10.69.

I became obsessed with eBay's ultra-complicated / Byzantine fee structure I 
here's what I found after my mishap:

TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:
Louise Brooks Poster $ 50.00
Buyer Paid Shipping  $ 38.00
VAT* $ 17.60
---
TOTAL PAID BY BUYER: $105.60

===

TOTAL FEES I PAID -
First, here's eBay's "cost basis" -
Louise Brooks Poster   $50.00
VAT   +$17.60
--
eBay Fees are based on $67.60

==
eBay Fees breakdown:

Variable % • Entertainment Memorabilia
Rate for items sold up to $7,500.00 is 12.9%

$67.60 cost basis × 12.9% =   -$ 8.72

International Fee because buyer is in the U.K.
$67.60 cost basis × 1.65% =   -$ 1.12
--
Insertion (FVF) Fee   -$ 0.30
--
Total eBay fees   -$10.14

==
eBay's calculations to me:
Buyer paid $50 for poster + $38 for shipping =  $88.00
Minus Fees based on $67.60 (see above) -$10.14
--
Subtotal Net$77.86
Minus Priority Mail International Shipping- $67.17 (because eBay 
International Shipping rejects tubes > than 27"
-
MY TOTAL NET for a poster that sold for $50.$10.69

===
Could eBay make this any MORE COMPLICATED?

If I had consigned to Bruce based on a $50 sale - my take would have been 
$32.50 (35%) - WAY ABOVE the $10.69 I'm getting from eBay.   I didn't consign 
because I didn't have more items to throw in to meet his enforced $200 retail 
min. per consignment package.

And because the Louise Brooks poster is a low value niche item - I figured it 
was worth putting it on eBay, as I figured I could net, I don't know, at least 
$35 or $40 after fees were paid.

With the previously mentioned $15 surcharges by UPS and USPS to ship tubes 
greater than 22 inches - combined with eBay capping its "eBay International 
Delivery" service to to tubes or packages NO GREATER than 27 inches long - it's 
obvious that the days of shipping posters in tubes overseas - is only going to 
be worth it for high value posters, not mid-to-low value ones.

I have even greater appreciation for the aggravations independent dealers have 
to face staying afloat with nonsense like this. - d.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9749/IrZcAA.jpg]


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From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 12:40 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 
23x33 A1

FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1

Up for sale (though with the recently discussed UPS and USPS surcharges for 
poster tubes - this may sit up there for a while) - 

[MOPO] FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1

[David Kusumoto]

FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1

Up for sale (though with the recently discussed UPS and USPS surcharges for 
poster tubes - this may sit up there for a while) - is a R2018 special 
presentation A1 poster of the restored 1927 film, "Berlin - Die Sinfonie Der 
Grosstadt" ("BERLIN - SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY").

A giant high-resolution image of this exact poster with some edge wear on the 
top right edge - is hosted at the following link (with the eMoviePoster 
watermark which is where I purchased it - and displayed for a few years before 
swapping it out of its frame last week with a French Raquel poster).  Spotting 
is part of the printed image, not a defect:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/130/gvhsaH.jpg


Meanwhile, sale listing details are here with smaller photos recently taken 
showing no change in condition:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255482125163
[https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9PMAAOSwxoliUzvh/s-l400.jpg]
LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1 | 
eBay
CITY (1927 / 2018)". in May 2018 of the. LOUISE BROOKS. OF A GREAT. ---SEE ALL 
LARGE PHOTOS BELOW---. (Not a Reproduction.). Special Presentation.
www.ebay.com

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9749/IrZcAA.jpg]


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Re: [MOPO] Silent hills, please

[David Kusumoto]

3 quick stories:

* Ever get embarrassed by a movie critics love?  Oliver Stone's Natural Born 
Killers was that film.  Critics lost their loads praising it - with Ebert 
calling it, "some kind of masterpiece" - as if he HAD to like it.  Ebert was a 
"people's critic," so I trusted him.  It was awful.  Afterwards, my wife asked, 
"Why would you pick a movie like this?" Should've taken that money and pigged 
out at Jack in the Box.  Since then, I've never paid to see an Oliver Stone 
diatribe - and - I now go ALONE to screen pictures which get nominated for a 
lot of awards but have "trouble" written all over them.  (Every awards season 
things get worse - with pics getting nominated that few will PAY to see.)

* The only time I fell asleep in a theater was while watching Lord of the Rings 
- Return of the King.  It's a film people said you HAD to see but I could never 
get into Tolkien, and you know, fans say it's "literary" in a way "Star Wars" 
is not.  I tried but couldn't make it.  I drowsily left and the box office gave 
me a pass to return later.  When it won 11 Oscars, tying Ben Hur and Titanic - 
I went back and hung tough, but I kept looking at my watch.  Peter Jackson's 
Beatles "Get Back" movie was better, but I saw that in chunks like everyone 
else so its duration wasn't felt.

* The only time I went with a GROUP to the movies - and one of us fell asleep 
for HOURS - was during DOUBLE-BILL of "Marooned" with "2001: A Space Odyssey." 
My brother was knocked out by boredom so we pranked him while he was asleep.  
Took an empty tub of popcorn and put it on his head - and then put an empty 
soft drink cup on top of that.  He looked like a member of Devo in the dark.  
As an added touch, we rolled foil from Hostess Ding Dong wrappers and inserted 
two - one for each nostril.  The dude NEVER woke up and we laughed so hard in a 
way that no sound was coming out.  This went on forever.  The hijinks were over 
when an "usher" - (yeah they really existed back in the day) - came by with his 
flashlight and said, "Hey, you punks knock it off or I'm gonna kick you out."  
Only then did my brother stir from his hibernation - and all of his "gear" fell 
to the floor.  We were in stitches.  But it gets better.  He didn't realize he 
still had foil wrappers in his nose - and we didn't tell him, hence the 
paroxysms continued a bit longer.  Good times. -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Susan Heim 

Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 3:23 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Silent hills, please

That's funny Scott.  The first time I saw Fantasia was in college in about 
1974.  I fell asleep about 15 minutes in.  I kept waking up every 20 minutes or 
so and tried desperately
to keep my eyes open but to no avail.  My best friend, who was my college 
roommate was a huge Disney fan and went on to be a Disney Imagineering Designer 
for 30 years and
just retired.  She still teases me about falling asleep during Fantasia as she 
considers it sacrelegious.  I have to admit that the same thing happened to me 
for Star Wars.  I went
to the opening at Grauman's Chinese theater on Hollywood Blvd.  We waited in 
line for hours.  We finally got to the ticket booth and they had just sold the 
last ticket and the next
showing was at like 4:00 in the morning. So, we sat down on the sidewalk.  A 
few minutes later a couple came up to us and asked if we wanted to buy two 
tickets as they had bought
two extras for their friends that never showed up.  We jumped for joy went into 
the theater and got seated.  The movie started and that beautiful John Williams 
music began and in
the scene where Luke is flying the ship and there is no dialogue, I was 
gone.Now,  I love Star Wars and have since seen it many times.but I 
totally get it on Fantasia.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames
HollywoodPosters.com


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Scott Burns 

Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 9:36 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Silent hills, please


I’ll probably get some heat for this one, but….



Back in my younger days when I regularly patronized movie theaters there was 
only one time I ever got up and left a movie before its conclusion. The 
offending title?



“Fantasia.”



Yes Disney’s animation masterpiece. My sincere apologies to MoP’er (and Disney 
fan) wdposter AKA Martin May. 



Sorry, but it bored me silly. And I have no desire to ever try watching it 
again. I admit, I’m not a big animation fan and I don’t seek such titles out. 
But I don’t find viewing “Snow White” or “Pinocchio” to be painful like 
“Fantasia.”



Now the paper on “Fantasia?” That’s a different story…very nice! So there’s 
that.



P.S.

A more recent “never want to see” title for me? I tried watching “Mank” on 
Netflix and gave up after 35 minutes. I have no desire to ever go back and 
(try) to finish it.



Scott

MoPo List Owner



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Re: [MOPO] SOYLENT GREEN Advance Onesheet: Does it even exist?

[David Kusumoto]

Thank you, Greg for posting the best thing on the Internet today.  Granted, 
it's on MoPo and not on some global social media site, but I love me my legacy 
e-lists and will take anything that's simultaneously funny and poignant. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Greg Douglass 

Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 1:03 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: SOYLENT GREEN Advance Onesheet: Does it even exist?

I recall seeing SOYLENT GREEN in its first release. I also recall Edward G. 
Robinson as being 72 in the film, which is the same age as yours truly as I 
write this. Talk about depression squared; I had to face my impending mortality 
AND what looked like a really crappy future when I reached my dotage while 
watching this grim look at what is turning out to be a pretty close 
approximation of what's going on around us.

Now THAT'S entertainment!

The mortality part doesn't bother me; hey, I came from a science-based family 
(my dad was a chemistry major at UC Berkeley and later worked for Upjohn 
Pharmaceuticals, a very honest company) and when I go, wave goodbye. I have no 
belief in life after death (although I have no problem with people whose lives 
are based on religious ideals as long as they don't grab me on the sidewalk and 
scream 'HAVE YOU FOUND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR HEART?" Jim 
Gresham is a perfect example of someone who has found genuine joy in his faith, 
mentions it from time to time, but doesn't ram it down our throats. I learned a 
lot about myself in my correspondences with Mr. Gresham. I hope you're doing 
well, Jim, and that piles of packages from West Plains, MO arrived safely at 
your house).

But I digress. As usual.

It's interesting how my outlook on certain films has shifted over the years. 
SUNSET BLVD. seemed like a pathetic, laughable tale about a washed-up old 
actress (50!!!) trying desperately to hold onto her youth. I have a lot more 
empathy for her now. I wept copiously after watching I NEVER SANG FOR MY FATHER 
when I first saw it at the El Rey in Walnut Creek, CAc. While it's still not 
exactly a fun-fest, I was able to be happy that I mended any issues with my dad 
before he passed after re-watching the film.
It's kind of fun growing old (except for the impending doom part) and dealing 
with a having a changing perspective. And after talking to Claude Litton, who 
still plays racquet ball 3 times a week at 86 and is sharp as a tack, I realize 
I'm just a pup.(And he's got 250 posters hanging in his house. Wonderful guy! 
And I'm SO jealous!!!)

A happy 2022...or something akin to happiness...to you all.
Waiting for my GODZILLA(1956!) one sheet to come from the restoration wizard 
so...life still has meaning.

Greg Douglass
From my big house by the lake in Escondido, CA. Thank you, Steve Miller.


Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 at 6:09 PM
From: "Christopher Quarles" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] SOYLENT GREEN Advance Onesheet: Does it even exist?
I saw the world the flesh and the devil is a 13 year old and really liked it at 
the time. Not sure if it would hold up. But I did buy the poster I think it’s a 
one sheet but it might be an insert
Chris Quarles

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2021, at 2:14 PM, S Yafet  wrote:


Kirby, you sold me a really nice half sheet from The World the flesh and the 
devil!  Great piece.  I wouldn't spend one second of time on The hunger games.
Nathalie

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:11 PM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
I don't care for dystopian.  Give me a good epic, a mystery, riveting drama, or 
Gigi.  But keep that world-running-down stuff.  HUNGER GAMES?  BORING.

Kirby
movieart.com

On Dec 27, 2021, at 12:18 PM, S Yafet 
mailto:sya...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I couldn't get that image of Heston shouting at Robinson at the end out of my 
nightmares.   Maybe that makes it a good film but it creeped me out.
I prefer The World, the Flesh and the Devil for dystopian viewing.


On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 6:09 AM Helmut Hamm 
mailto:texasmu...@web.de>> wrote:
Hello Scott,

I was of course referring to STRAWBERRY STATEMENT as terrible. SOYLENT GREEN 
has always been a personal favorite.

Best,

Helmut


Am 27.12.2021 um 00:08 schrieb Scott Burns 
mailto:sbu...@columbus.rr.com>>:

Nathalie—

Maybe I’m reading the thread wrong, but I think Helmut was saying The 
Strawberry Statement was the horrible film, not Soylent.  Helmut could you 
clarify your dislike?

I would never describe Soylent Green as horrible….always been a guilty pleasure 
of mine! But I do tend to enjoy end-of-the-world or bleak dystopian future 

Re: [MOPO] Bruce's auction - Catching up 24 hours later.

[David Kusumoto]

* Interesting post, Helmut.  I haven't seen those damn dolls I gave to my wife 
since Christmas 1997.  She told me they're indeed stored in large Tupperware 
containers, sitting in a dark closet somewhere.  I should hunt down the photo I 
took of them in the living room that morning.  Honestly if anyone still 
actively collects Beanies - 25 years later - I wonder why.  If for sentiment, 
OK.  But top dollar has vanished and demand has tanked as there are now too 
many markers in the rulebook to separate real from fake.  The ones I bought are 
genuine but only because they were bought in the same calendar year, 1997, just 
before the peak of the mania.

* Your story about the seller who tried to sell them in bulk without providing 
details is surprising.  Social media did not exist in the early 2000s, no 
Facebook, no Twitter, no Instagram, no You Tube, no smartphones, etc.  eBay was 
dominant - but if it got a million views on eBay - that would be something.  
The thing about the HBO documentary - is I wondered why it has taken so long 
for someone to write a comprehensive history about the rise and spectacular 
crashing and burning in flames - of a fad that destroyed a lot of small 
fortunes.  It was nothing like other "runs" on toys at Christmas.  The Beanie 
Babies thing was year-round insanity.
-

* BTW, you wrote that you have come across some amazing posters that will be in 
your next newsletter.  Do you send it out via email because I can't remember if 
I'm on it - or do you just alert the group when sending a link?  Sign me up!

* I still remember talking with you long distance before I bought that 
"Lawrence of Arabia" (camel version) window card from you on foam core.  After 
I got word that from a restorer that foam core could indeed be removed, esp. 
from thicker paper stock window cards - I bought the poster from you.  (I still 
don't understand the bias against foam core when I don't think it causes a 
poster to deteriorate more than one that is on linen.

* Carol Tincup did a great job removing the core without damaging the poster 
and it ended up looking great.  Sadly, I have no idea where Carol is today - 
she cut off ties with me and was super pissed when other collectors, desperate 
to get their posters back - came to MoPo asking about her.  I addressed those 
queries publicly by telling them what I experienced trying to get my Patch of 
Blue intl. one-sheet back.  She had some unfortunate health issues,  I did get 
it back a year later.  She didn't fix the linen-backing at all - so I just cut 
my losses and shipped it to Bruce as a consignment where it fetched a 
surprising (to me) price of more than $200.

* Speaking of "A Patch of Blue," the low-cost international poster is still one 
of my favs - and it happens to be one of the posters I STILL OWN.  After the 
foul-up with the LB one from Carol - I bought an unbacked one from Bruce.  
Yeah, it's a low value" poster - and but to me it's one of the more spectacular 
examples of a 1960s poster with great concept art.  It is not in demand because 
few have seen the movie - and those who have consider it depressing (I don't).  
The poster art is superior to the domestic 1-sheet which doesn't reveal that 
the girl played by Elizabeth Harman is blind - nor that the film is about a 
platonic interracial romance with Sidney Poitier.  This poster version rarely 
turns up and even Bruce hasn't offered it in more than seven years.  The one I 
bought in 2013 from him (see image web hosted below) - remains folded and is 
displayed in a Sue Heim frame.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4499/kJM63S.jpg]

-

* Finally - as far as retirement, I loved your comment about working until you 
drop dead at your desk.  There is a lot to be said about NEVER retiring - so 
long as you really ENJOY what you do and it doesn't feel like work - or - if 
the high points are so good that they're worth the day-to-day stress each 
component brings, e.g., acquiring, grading, photographing, marketing, selling, 
shipping and balancing the books so that you show a profit each year.

* To me the WORST thing is to retire and have no game plan - nor an elaborate 
"to do" list afterwards.  If you love what you do, then it's work you enjoy and 
as such - it's a business and ALSO a fun pastime that has more rewards than 
headaches.  In that way, I think people like you and Bruce will always dabble 
in old movie paper in some way.  Even former collectors like myself are still 
interested in paper because I still check listings.

* However, I do know many examples of people who retire without a plan - who 
will make that one big trip after retirement and then they're watching their 
pennies and get bored, following their wives from room to room, watching TV and 
aren't going out, leading sedentary lives which worsen mentally - esp. when all 
the kids move out.

* Studies show men don't do as good a job as women at maintaining durable 
long-term friendships, esp. 

Re: [MOPO] FS Collecting vintage posters

[David Kusumoto]

* That's a great story, Larry. But I also think what happened to you is typical 
for young people.  We're into the latest release with no real thought about 
dollar value.  I attended the Comic-Cons here in San Diego well before it was a 
global event - we're talking like from 1973 onward - and it was my first 
introduction to contemporary one-sheets, folded and pristine, being sold for $5 
or less.  I bought many - and turned around and TACKED or TAPED them onto my 
bedroom walls, along with my black-light day glo posters - even though I 
couldn't figure out how to buy nor how to rig a genuine black-light.

* (I had "faux" ones which screwed in like a regular light bulb, such a scam.  
I also owned those sparkly light displays which "appeared' to blink in sync 
with music - when most of them didn't.  I opened one up and discovered that it 
was just a bunch cheap-ass blinking Christmas lights in all colors surrounded 
by a lucite pattern that made those lights display as "blinking stars."  What 
an idiot.)  The movie poster thing I fell into while going to comic conventions 
to BUY COMICS.  (I was never into the figurines nor the mania for Star Trek.)

* Your story also reminds me of some of the kids of my friends - and how they 
are constantly - just like we were - into newer releases and they don't care 
about "the classics."  I didn't give much thought about going "backwards" to 
classic titles when I was young.  Why?  Because it just so happens that from 
1973 through 1977 - we had a fab run of great posters that represented my 
earliest foray into movie posters, e.g., American Graffiti, Jaws, Rocky, Annie 
Hall, Star Wars and Close Encounters.  They were on my walls and then ripped 
down after I got bored.

* After a couple of summers, the tape would dry out and leave STAINS.  The idea 
of "rolled posters" were like, "what's that?"  I knew nothing about NSS but to 
see their stamping seemed like a guaranteed marker of authenticity at the time.

* When I got my first Cinemonde catalog from San Francisco - the things in 
there were like major eye-openers.  They seemed priced out of my range.  But of 
course - in hindsight, they were affordable for ADULTS.  Seriously, they were.

* The thing that gets me also - is when I hear stories like yours about 
stumbling across warehouses full of posters.  It was stuff we didn't know would 
become collectible because they weren't for sale in the first place.  They were 
for "rent."  And the prices for renting were laughable.  A corollary is the 
whole boxed video game craze which I was never into.  Who knew?  But I heard 
the original Mario Bros. software game is now worth a fortune.



* Today there are things called Funko Pop! dolls.  They are popular with young 
people.  I saw them being pumped at Comic Con and I'm seeing the same mania all 
over again, that is, people buying them with pristine boxes and cases.  I got 
introduced to them when I was buying Star Wars characters and people were doing 
the whole slabbed and grading thing all over again, keeping their original 
boxes.  But to me, they're not the 1977 toys and figurines so I'm trying to 
unpack why packaging remains so important for NEW products.

* It's like this thing you see with Steve Carell in the "40-Year-Old-Virgin" 
whereby his whole life - until he goes on his first date - is to collect toy 
figurines in their original boxes, super nerdy.  (And later his girlfriend, 
Catherine Keener, helps sell them at eBay.)

* And yet - when I decided to get the Funko Pop! Star Wars for kids - I found 
myself again paying attention to box condition and I felt INSANE all over 
again.  Granted, I was only paying $15 for each one - but STILL.  And yet I 
also remember - when I used to buy albums and 8-track and VHS tapes.  I always 
picked the best available in the rack with the best cello wrap on it.  Crazy.  
On occasion I'll go to Barnes and Noble and the clerks will STILL see me 
swapping out best condition books - with best condition dust jackets.  It's 
silent Tourette's behavior, OCD, whatever.



* Finally - right now, people are mourning over Betty White.  The NYTimes has a 
story about People Magazine's "mistake" with its cover story hitting the stands 
Thursday, i.e., the day BEFORE she passed.

* Now just watch.  Starting tomorrow - these darn newsstand editions of People 
Magazines with Betty on the cover and the headline, "Betty White At 100!" - are 
going to shoot up in price.  Convenience stores don't sell magazines anymore - 
but there is going to be a run at every supermarket in America for those.  And 
they'll never go up in price because People (now owned by Meredith as the 
former Time-Life is defunct) - will just print whatever to meet momentary 
demand.  And then they'll stop.  And no one will never know the difference 
between first and later print runs.  Too many quantities available - even in 
our current digital age - to matter. -d.


From: 

Re: [MOPO] Just curious: What is your most desired collectible?

[David Kusumoto]

Excellent thread!

In my case, as some know - when I was an active buyer, I spent decades looking 
for the BQ from David Lean's "Brief Encounter" from 1945.  WWII era UK paper is 
so hard to find - and the closest I ever got was the Eagle-Lion press book, 
which ironically I bought in Paris.


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Admittedly, the art isn't the greatest, but I was very much into collecting 
country of origin paper.  (Repro image below.)


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So after many years of searching - I gave up and "settled" for the 70th 
anniversary BQ from 2015. It was very inexpensive and I haven't found another 
one like it since.  And even though it's not hand-drawn art, I think the layout 
is striking.  I'm OK with this. -d.


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From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 

Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:09 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Just curious: What is your most desired collectible?

We’re closing in on Christmas once again, so let‘s imagine you won the ‚Golden 
Ticket‘ and you could trade it for a SINGLE collectible, regardless of price 
and usual availability. You got the ‚Golden Ticket‘, so it would be yours for 
the asking. What would it be?

For me, the answer is fairly simple and it is a vintage concert poster. 
Actually, Heritage auctioned it TWICE this year:

https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/entertainment-and-music/hank-williams-1953-canton-oh-genuine-original-concert-poster-for-the-show-he-died-en-route-to/a/7262-11125.s?

Back in the 1980s, I had an ‘original fake poster‘ for this show on my wall for 
many years. While they copied the style quite well, was nothing like the 
original, but back then nobody knew what the original even looked like. And 
even if people had tried (and I‘m sure they didn‘t) it might‘ve been a 
challenge to find out what the original line-up for the night was.

I had always wondered what the original had looked like. At least that question 
is answered now. Needless to say, I always dreamed of owning an original.

I could‘ve given it a try at Heritage of course, and who knows, I may have even 
succeeded. But once I started adding the costs and aggravation of the then 
inevitable ‚divorce-after-the-fact‘ I thought it might be a better idea to not 
register for these sales. After all, how much sense does even a nice poster 
like this one make if you don’t have a wall to hang it? I did send another 
message to the universe though, so not all hope is lost.

Cheers,

Helmut

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Re: [MOPO] CHANNING THOMSON

[David Kusumoto]

Kirb - You were decades long friends, forever engaged with each others' lives, 
mutually supportive, sharing many travels and escapades together, the truest of 
pals. Can't recall ever a dismissive or unkind word from him during the past 
20+ years in his public writings. To have a friend like that is beyond 
miraculous - when it's so common for people - over a long period of time - to 
change directions or interests - to go their separate ways , e.g., "losing 
touch" - for myriad reasons. I'm very sorry for your loss and please grieve for 
as long as you want - for a friend who is worth never getting over. He still 
lives in your head, though, his voice, facial expressions, his thoughts, etc. 
What you had with him was golden, the real deal - with geography never a 
barrier for a friendship so durable.
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From: MoPo List  on behalf of Kirby McDaniel 

Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:29 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: CHANNING THOMSON

Mopolistas:

My great friend, pal, and colleague Channing Thomson passed away peacefully in 
his sleep on October 16, in San Francisco.  We both made our living selling 
posters, we both loved movies, we both loved to talk politics, and we both 
loved to observe the crazy world of movie posters and the people who collect 
them.  Channing was very smart, a world-class observer.  We had some great 
trips together: New York, New Orleans, Los Angeles, Yosemite, Arizona.  If you 
can travel with someone, you know you love them.

Channing is survived by three siblings.

This one hurts.  Channing will be missed.

Peace,

Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt.com
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[MOPO] 1st edition Frankenstein, 1st edition Dracula signed by Stoker to be auctioned next week.

[David Kusumoto]

Some of us started out collecting first edition books before movie posters.  
One of the greatest private collections of rare books I've ever seen - 
belonging to the estate of cable TV executive Theodore Baum - goes up for sale 
next week at Christie's in New York.

Beyond the Holy Grail highlights, there are tons of other extremely rare books 
in their original dust jackets, a lot of Fitzgeralds and Faulkners - all 
genuine "classics" - including Shakespeare's 2nd Folio.  The very first 
Frankenstein by Shelley was published anonymously - while the first Dracula by 
Stoker has been signed - and - it also includes a lengthy letter written in the 
author's own hand.  It carries an estimate of $50K to $70K - while the 3 volume 
Frankenstein carries an estimate of $200K to $300K.  A link to the sale is at 
the very bottom of this email. - d.

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Original news article in Barron's below - along with a few web-hosted images.



A First Edition of Mary Shelley’s ‘Frankenstein’ Could Sell for $300,000
By Fang Block for Barron's - Sept. 1, 2021 5:36 pm ET

A copy of the first edition of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, which produced one 
of the most enduring characters in literature since the novel’s publication in 
1818, is expected to sell for between US$200,000 and US$300,000 at a Christie’s 
auction in New York.

The copy, in uncut original blue-grey boards (hard covers) with three volumes, 
was offered from the estate of Theodore B. Baum, a pioneer in the cable 
television industry who died in August at age 86.

His literature collection, including the publisher's copy of Charles Dickens's 
Great Expectations; the Second and Fourth Folios of William Shakespeare; Edgar 
Allan Poe's The Raven in original wrappers; and the first edition of Walt 
Whitman's Leaves of Grass, will be offered through a live auction on Sept. 14 
and an online auction running from Thursday until Sept. 17.

“Mr. Baum built his library over the course of decades, waiting patiently for 
each title to come on the market, either through private dealers or at 
auction,” Heather Weintraub, book and manuscript specialist and head of this 
sale at Christie’s, says. “Nearly every book shares remarkable condition and 
impeccable provenance.”



The first edition of Frankenstein: or The Modern Prometheus - was published 
anonymously with a run of 500 copies, but it included a preface written by the 
author’s husband, Percy Shelley, an English poet.

Copies in the original boards are exceptionally rare, and this being the only 
set to appear at auction since 1985, according to Christie’s description of the 
lot.

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Another highlight of the sale is a copy of the first edition of Charles 
Darwin’s On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, published in 
1859. One of the original 1,250 copies, it is expected to fetch between 
US$150,000 and US$250,000.

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Shakespeare’s Second Folio, published in 1632, has a presale low estimate of 
US$180,000; while The Fourth Folio, published in 1685, is expected to sell for 
more than US$100,000.



Dickens's Great Expectations - offered from the collection - was the first 
edition and first impressions of each of the three volumes, and is valued at 
between US$80,000 and US$120,000. Only 1,000 copies of the first edition were 
published, with most going to libraries, Christie’s says.

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The collection will be available for public viewing at Christie’s Rockefeller 
Center galleries in New York from Sept. 9-13.
==

Auction link:
https://www.christies.com/en/auction/the-exceptional-literature-collection-of-theodore-b-baum-part-one-28803/
The Exceptional Literature Collection of Theodore B. 
Baum
The Exceptional Literature Collection of Theodore B. Baum
www.christies.com
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Re: [MOPO] Cinerama Dome to close permanently

[David Kusumoto]

Used to attend screenings there - required for awards consideration in a 
calendar year - (which AMPAS will likely rescind permanently as COVID hastened 
the death of in-person screenings - and - with the industry letting streaming 
services bankroll their own productions before 2020 regardless, bypassing 
exhibitors except for tent-pole films).  I wished I could've seen "It's a Mad, 
Mad, Mad, Mad World" at the '63 world premiere of both the film and the Dome 
itself - which is recounted in rich detail in Criterion's restored boxed 
version of the film - complete with scratches and sound drops and all.  I also 
saw "Apocalypse Now" there like others in 1979 - and was struck not only by the 
roadshow "reserved seating" still in place - but also by Coppola's baffling 
ending at the time.  I remember the movie just ended, like BAM! - with no 
credit scroll at all. My last visit to the Dome was in 2016 to see "La La Land" 
- and director Damien Chazelle came out and introduced the picture.  Only later 
did I learn that celebrity visits and intros were "commonplace" at the Dome.

The Dome's demise became national news everywhere this week.  The WSJ finally 
took its turn today, putting this on its front page.  (As a public service, 
just in case its restrictive paywall is in place, I've copied the text below.) 
- d.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hollywood-mourns-the-loss-of-its-beloved-movie-theater-11618506514
[https://images.wsj.net/im-325274/social]
Hollywood Mourns the Loss of its Beloved Movie Theater - 
WSJ
Hollywood Mourns the Loss of its Beloved Movie Theater The flagship ArcLight 
Cinema on Sunset Boulevard had long served as L.A.’s clubhouse for the city’s 
most ardent movie lovers, where a ...
www.wsj.com
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=

FRONT PAGE - THE WALL STREET JOURNAL - FRIDAY, APRIL 16, 2021

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Hollywood Mourns the Loss of Its Beloved ArcLight Cinema
The flagship theater on Sunset Boulevard had long served as L.A.’s clubhouse 
for the city’s most ardent movie lovers, where a ticket might land a seat next 
to the same star appearing on the screen

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   PHOTO BY Bing Guan/Bloomberg News
By Eric Schwartzel for the Wall Street Journal

   LOS ANGELES— Nicole DeGraaf was several episodes into the TV show “Felicity” 
this week when friends grew concerned about her well-being. “Are you OK?” 
several texted.
   News was spreading throughout the nation’s filmmaking capital that 
Hollywood’s unofficial theater chain, the ArcLight, wouldn’t be reopening its 
auditoriums when the pandemic ended.
Ms. DeGraaf, a hard-core movie lover in a city full of them, was still 
processing the revelation.
   “It’s like someone was saying your second home is closing forever,” said Ms. 
DeGraaf, a 42-year-old Los Angeles native who lost her job as a salon manager 
when Covid-19 forced the shop to close.
   Similar scenes are playing out across America. As the nation re-emerges from 
14 months of shutdowns, beloved diners, music venues and other community 
landmarks are informing customers that there will be no life after the pandemic.
   Few notices have rippled through Los Angeles like the announcement Monday 
that the screens operated by ArcLight Cinemas would be among them. The 
ArcLight, and in particular its flagship location on Sunset Boulevard, doubled 
as a Kiwanis Club for cinephiles, its lobby a celebrity-filled haven and its 
auditoriums marked by a quiet, almost religious, reverence.
Still illuminated this week, but padlocked.

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   When it opened in 2002, the ArcLight was among the first in the nation to 
offer assigned seating. Earnest ushers—their own favorite movies featured on 
their nametags—introduced each movie by identifying its director and running 
time. Each month featured Q sessions with filmmakers after the show. In the 
lobbies, costumes from blockbusters like “The Avengers” were often on display, 
not far from a cafe and restaurant.
   Next door to the ArcLight’s flagship location is the Cinerama Dome, an 
iconic single-screen orb that the chain operated and had screened such epics as 
“2001: A Space Odyssey.”
   The 58-year-old theater could seat more than 800 moviegoers and 

Re: [MOPO] Hey Tom - Take care of yourself

[David Kusumoto]

Life is hard enough without health issues. And when they occur - and re-occur - 
they become such a dominant part of life's landscape that you almost forget 
what it was like to be physically pain-free. On the other hand, not much that 
people talk about that's in the "news" - along with their garden variety gripes 
- really matters when dealing with pain. I admire you Tom, because somehow you 
always find peace via appreciating what you do have, including your friends - 
and not worrying much about what's beyond your control. Take care, Tom, and 
focus on regaining strength. We're all rooting for you. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Susan Heim 

Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:37 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Hey Tom - Take care of yourself

Hey Tom,
   Geez buddy.sorry to hear of everything.  Hope your son is 
ok.take care of yourself and get better soon.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tom Martin 

Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 5:11 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: 261 "special" rolled posters AND 471 non-U.S. posters 
from 23 countries AND 468 rolled one-sheets close SUNDAY

Bruce and Mopo///I have been in a hospital
my right foo tamputated..feb 4

on dec 25 2020 my right eye retina detached so Jen 19 surgery
been brought
so I accept Gods plan
just not sure what it is

my left foot foot ws re constructed in 2013..buthas a few words
so...ifthat heals ill Geta prosthetic on the righting may walk before my
65th bd in august..

regardless I am thankful for all the people in mono and posterdom///and
know we all suffer many issues.
God blsss you and thanks...
peace amd love

Tommys been reading  Norman vincent Peale - power of positive thinking
and said yes dad therein a God///
Its all about God family and friends..inthe Big picture

all mentors agreed.my wish is world peace..and all you find Love ,
forgiveness and happiness

I believe we are all bothers and sisters..all races,nationalitie,
religions ..

Tom
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977




On 2021-03-19 21:45, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
> EMOVIEPOSTER.COM HAS 261 "SPECIAL" ROLLED POSTERS AND 471 NON-U.S.
> POSTERS FROM 23 COUNTRIES AND 468 ROLLED ONE-SHEETS CLOSING SUNDAY
> STARTING AT 3 PM CDT AT 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emovieposter.com%2FAGALLERY%2F15.HTMLdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5f4d669f20c44849cfd808d8ec8c65c7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637519435042450742%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=19pG0ZFNBMqzbOfCnekAL72uHTVZbQWw3fTaMJroo3o%3Dreserved=0
> [1] (IT'S THREE SETS OF OUR OLD WEEKLY AUCTIONS IN ONE!).
>
> First, let me tell you about the 471 non-U.S. posters:  These often
> have an image seen on no other posters, and VERY often the image is
> one of the very best on that title! The highlight this time is the 132
> English posters, including 121 British Quads! These include 2 from the
> 1940s and 44 from the 1950s, and if you have ever tried to find Quads
> from before 1960 you know just how incredibly rare they are!
>
> There are also 64 from Egypt, 63 posters from France, 57 from Russia,
> 54 from Thailand, 21 from Canada, 16 from Lebanon, 12 from Italy, 12
> from Germany, and lower quantities from a total of 15 other countries!
>
>
> So this part of Sunday's auction truly IS "The World of Movie
> Posters", offered to you at one time (and you can bid on them from
> your home or office, and save round the world airfare, and because we
> can send them all to you in a single tube, you will save a massive
> amount on shipping compared to buying each one from a separate
> seller)!
>
> Second, let me tell you about the 261 "special" posters: These are ANY
> posters (movie or non-movie) that are not traditional movie poster
> sizes, and were either given away or sold commercially.
>
> The highlight of these are the 49 art prints which include 20 Mondo
> prints consigned from Tim League, founder of Alamo Drafthouse. We are
> also auctioning 29 other art prints, and you can see them all at
> 

Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices - star wars style A confusion

[David Kusumoto]

Yes, Helmut, I agree - the good old days that still don't feel so long ago.  I 
bet there are still newbies out there buying Style As complaining about fold 
lines and opting for rolled repros. The thing that surprised me and becoming 
more important - and reminiscent of how people collect books - are print runs.  
For decades, book collectors looking for "true" first editions - seek "true" 
first printings which are almost universally noted on the back of the title 
page.  With books, there are first edition first printings - as well as first 
edition 14th printings, etc., and publishers mark them accordingly.

To see this template applied to movie posters feels a little "off" because 
posters were never intended to be identified "in sequence' beyond the old NSS 
numbers designating "R72" for Graduate re-issues and so-on.

Yet, it now matters when you have a super popular title like Star Wars with all 
of the poster variations and different print runs, test runs, printer's proofs, 
re-issues,  And you need a scorecard to separate the bootlegs from the 
genuines.  Most of the style As I owned were 77/21s and how was I to know that 
77-21-0 meant greater desirability?  Unlike books whereby first printings have 
hard numbers, e.g., a first printing of a typical hardback is typically around 
5,000 copies, but way more if it's backed with big marketing or from a major 
author - (no publisher wants to "over-print").  But with posters, no one really 
knows how many genuine 77-21-0 one-sheets were printed.  It gave me headaches 
and I feel sorry for sellers who deal with this every day.

Right now the only SW paper I still own from 1977 are the half-sheet, a VG 
insert, the lobby card set, a commercial Hildebrandt and stapled ad-slicks 
which are sometimes confusingly referred to as "press books" vs. "press kits," 
etc.  I no longer own ANY one sheets from '77. - d.

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From: Helmut Hamm 
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:05 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices - the unloved Style D

Sometimes, it feels like it was only yesterday that I would sell a STAR WARS 
Style A onesheet in NM condition for $200, regardless of printing. Then I would 
go to ebay and buy another one.

Same thing happened with the TOTORO Japanese B1. Every time I sold one, I 
bought another for $100 or so. Not anymore. Apparently, this poster is now 
fetching $1500 or so.

Helmut

Am 03.03.2021 um 09:09 schrieb David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>:

In my lifetime, I think I've owned about 7-8 style As, including a few first 
printings which - back then - I didn't know the difference and why they might 
be important to later generations.


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Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices - Mandalorian and the Iron Giant

[David Kusumoto]

The Mandalorian - I have bulked up on Netflix gift cards and when the 
nominations come out - I'm going to be binging for at least three straight 
months before divesting myself from it.  Heard so much about that series that 
was great that I'm just gonna watch it in one fell swoop.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering if "The Iron Giant" will ever be considered the last 
GREAT hand-drawn animated film.  It was a title that creeped up on people and 
took them by surprise.  FWIW, I've got about 10 small Iron Giant figurines made 
of plastic placed in different spots all over the house, some standing, some 
sitting, whatever.  It was a promo bag bulk buy I got online from somewhere - 
and while I also own the standard DS one-sheet, I couldn't afford the best 
Mondo poster for this film that was recently offered in eMoviePoster's sale.

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From: Toochis r 
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 12:05 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices

What a great conversation!  I’ve been watching THE MANDALORIAN and I LOVED the 
finale. It brought tears. I’ve dug STAR WARS but never got into collecting it. 
I’ve spent most of my focus on stone litho posters silents-40s (+ anything Iron 
Giant) and trying to  buy the competitive ones at a good price which is almost 
never.

Wish I had purchased some of the Tarantino ones and especially THE JOKER 
especially the image with his face on the playing card. That image is so cool.

I am trying to keep my collecting focused and also trying to not buy stuff. 
Although I had my eye on the Baby Yoda Chia Pet.  But alas I’ll hug my Iron 
Giant plush instead.

Toochis

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:21 PM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
$2,100?  That's hefty for the '77 half-sheet and might suggest the $3,000 
fetched 3 months ago at Heritage was not an anomaly.  (Concept pencil art of 
the Jung half-sheet sold for $45K in late 2017.)  Condition does matter as 
eMoviePoster sold a "good" condition HS a year ago for $430, while a "VG-fine" 
sold for $1,150.  And this is what I typically see - a range from $900 to 
$1,200 for the half-sheet.

It's indeed a personal preference - but I like the art even though it is a tad 
"busy" - because it blends the Style A with Vader's helmet in the left 
background overlooking everything from the first movie.  I also like the "GWTW" 
and the Noriyoshi Ohrai-style collages from "The Empire Strikes Back."  (I 
could never afford the ultra-rare test posters which routinely sell north of 
$10,000).  But Star Wars has, as eMoviePoster wrote in one of its essays last 
year - become a self-perpetuating industry now that Disney owns and treats it 
like one of its properties to re-introduce to succeeding generations of fans.

And yet to date, I've not yet seen one episode of the Mandalorian series which 
every SW fan, young and old, talked about last year - all the stuff involving 
Baby Yoda and even Mark Hamill somehow showing up in it. -d.


From: Adam Kennedy mailto:a...@artofthemovies.co.uk>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:46 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>; David 
Kusumoto mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Auction Prices

Great discussion. 

David,

With regards to the Star Wars half sheet, I love it and was an under-bidder on 
a high grade one last week at Hakes that went for $2,141,70.

While the art of the half sheet is amazing, it probably isn't the iconic image 
that either US or UK audiences saw when they went to the movie. As a result, 
they don't seek it which keeps the price stable. That also has the knock-on 
effect of making it unattractive to the speculators and trophy hunters.

Just my few pence worth.

Regards,

Adam.

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of David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: 02 March 2021 12:40
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices

Helmut and Tommy - you guys are onto something.  Because yesterday I was 
tracking a Blazing Saddles insert at Heritage and I saw it jump to near $200 
with its 20% buyer's premium, a poster that can be had for a little more or a 
little less, depending upon condition and this one was pretty nice.  A Star 
Wars public health vaccination poster sold for a hefty amount too.  Yes, there 
is something going on with the market.

Meanwhile, at Nathalie, LOL. Yes I agree with you - a Johansson image on a 
poster is definitely one of personal taste.  Maybe I, too, wouldn't pay &

Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices - the unloved Style D

[David Kusumoto]

Yup, however resentful wives may feel who are collectors - my wife is not a 
collector of posters and she does have disproportionate "veto power" over what 
images get displayed on the so-called "communal walls" of our home.  She says 
creepy images of monsters can "give her dreams," whatever.  So "Wasp Woman" and 
those "Saucer Men" and "Night of the Living Dead" and other zombie images are 
banned.  She even frowns on "bad girl" posters so I just have to put those in 
my work room.  Paradoxically, sexy Raquel Welch posters and Jane Fonda 
Barbarella images were "OK" in the communal areas before I sold them. Could 
never figure her "rules."  Yet she wasn't the type that said posters had to 
"color match" with the furniture or wall paint. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Toochis r 

Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 10:53 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Auction Prices - the unloved Style D

Yes, Tommy. I have to negotiate with my husband about purchasing a poster. Not 
something I love but it helps in not buying outside of my collection. Also I 
have many other expenses I have to be mindful. Where to hang it?!!  He doesn’t 
care. THANKFULLY!  I on the other hand don’t like cluttered walls so I do what 
you do.

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 3:09 AM Tommy Barr 
mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's great to see the way discussions here can morph from poster prices to Star 
Wars to collectors' wives. In reply to Toochis I think the fact that she is 
also a collector means that she may not be typical. I know that I have had to 
negotiate with my wife for specific spaces for hanging posters, so have to 
rotate those on display and those stored occasionally.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 08:09, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I remember the Style D when it came out.  It appealed to us "old boomers" who 
understood the "retro spirit" of Lucas's vision of Star Wars being a vintage 
weekend matinee serial. My first was TACKED onto my bedroom wall and my pals 
would say, "That doesn't look like a Star Wars poster." - hanging as it did 
next to my equally TACKED Style A.  (I never owned the Style C.)  Later, I 
heard people call it the "circus poster," and I wondered, "who comes up with 
these names?"

My guesses about why Style D never caught fire are - 1) It's an homage and thus 
doesn't look like what collectors expect from SW, notwithstanding Lucas's 
preference for it, and, 2) Style D was issued in 1978, deep into its FIRST run 
but before the celebrated "first anniversary" poster that fetches $$ today.  I 
also think there's a bias for 1977 issue paper vs. later re-issues - and the 
style D was also re-issued as a fan-club one-sheet in 1992.  In my lifetime, I 
think I've owned about 7-8 style As, including a few first printings which - 
back then - I didn't know the difference and why they might be important to 
later generations.  (My first posters were purchased at Comic-Con in San 
Diego.)  In hindsight, I now find the style A to be color "drab" - which is a 
personal thing yet consistent with my early collecting years of treating 
posters like books, e.g., caring only about first-issue country-of-origin 
one-sheets of films that I had to love MORE than the poster.  It's why I hung 
onto the pre-Awards "Graduate" one-sheets despite the BQ looking better.

Of course, if I could be young again, I'd chase art regardless of what I 
thought of a film's merits, and I'd go heavy into BQs and Australian daybills.  
I never collected horror because as I say, back then I had to LOVE the movie 
too.  And "Frankenstein" was the only classic that made the cut - even though I 
could never afford it, then and now.  When I re-discovered Rita Hayworth via 
"Gilda," the Style B was the perfect match of poster art with a script loaded 
with sexual tension, power and ownership themes, delivered via double entendrés 
which I felt were ahead of its time.  It's a kinky picture.  If I could do a 
"rewind" - I'd chase "The Invasion of the Saucer Men" with those cabbage head 
aliens - but because my wife forbade horror images in the house - I would've 
kept that poster in my work room so she wouldn't be creeped out by it.

It was Freeman Fisher who said it best.  "The greatest obstacle to collecting 
posters you want isn't money - it's having wives." -d.


From: MoPo List 
mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf 
of Smith, Grey - 1367 mailto:gre...@ha.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:54 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
Subject: Re: Auction Prices


Hi Tommy and MOPO,

I’m not su

Re: [MOPO] Alamo Drafthouse theater chain files for Chapter 11 amid pandemic woes

[David Kusumoto]

Yes, Chapter 11 means an attempt to restructure debt.  Chapter 7 is a total 
liquidation.  Like UK based Regal Cinemas, maybe Alamo will survive and get a 
reprieve from creditors and return.  I miss going to the movies. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Toochis r 

Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 10:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Alamo Drafthouse theater chain files for Chapter 11 amid pandemic 
woes

Bummer. I love that place. Hopefully it will come back. Covid is changing so 
much especially the movie business.

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:12 AM Glenn Taranto 
mailto:exit82afi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Maybe of interest to those who bought posters in Bruce's recent auction.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/alamo-drafthouse-theater-chain-files-for-chapter-11-amid-pandemic-woes/ar-BB1ecLpQ?ocid=hplocalnews


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Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices - the unloved Style D

[David Kusumoto]

I remember the Style D when it came out.  It appealed to us "old boomers" who 
understood the "retro spirit" of Lucas's vision of Star Wars being a vintage 
weekend matinee serial. My first was TACKED onto my bedroom wall and my pals 
would say, "That doesn't look like a Star Wars poster." - hanging as it did 
next to my equally TACKED Style A.  (I never owned the Style C.)  Later, I 
heard people call it the "circus poster," and I wondered, "who comes up with 
these names?"

My guesses about why Style D never caught fire are - 1) It's an homage and thus 
doesn't look like what collectors expect from SW, notwithstanding Lucas's 
preference for it, and, 2) Style D was issued in 1978, deep into its FIRST run 
but before the celebrated "first anniversary" poster that fetches $$ today.  I 
also think there's a bias for 1977 issue paper vs. later re-issues - and the 
style D was also re-issued as a fan-club one-sheet in 1992.  In my lifetime, I 
think I've owned about 7-8 style As, including a few first printings which - 
back then - I didn't know the difference and why they might be important to 
later generations.  (My first posters were purchased at Comic-Con in San 
Diego.)  In hindsight, I now find the style A to be color "drab" - which is a 
personal thing yet consistent with my early collecting years of treating 
posters like books, e.g., caring only about first-issue country-of-origin 
one-sheets of films that I had to love MORE than the poster.  It's why I hung 
onto the pre-Awards "Graduate" one-sheets despite the BQ looking better.

Of course, if I could be young again, I'd chase art regardless of what I 
thought of a film's merits, and I'd go heavy into BQs and Australian daybills.  
I never collected horror because as I say, back then I had to LOVE the movie 
too.  And "Frankenstein" was the only classic that made the cut - even though I 
could never afford it, then and now.  When I re-discovered Rita Hayworth via 
"Gilda," the Style B was the perfect match of poster art with a script loaded 
with sexual tension, power and ownership themes, delivered via double entendrés 
which I felt were ahead of its time.  It's a kinky picture.  If I could do a 
"rewind" - I'd chase "The Invasion of the Saucer Men" with those cabbage head 
aliens - but because my wife forbade horror images in the house - I would've 
kept that poster in my work room so she wouldn't be creeped out by it.

It was Freeman Fisher who said it best.  "The greatest obstacle to collecting 
posters you want isn't money - it's having wives." -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Smith, Grey - 1367 

Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:54 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Auction Prices


Hi Tommy and MOPO,

I’m not sure I have any terrific insight other than business seems to have 
grown well during the last year and likely due to a number of reasons.

I suggest the already discussed stay at home element makes people more 
interested in online activity and the need of a pleasant distraction. I also 
agree that spending on other entertainment has been curtailed so seems more 
activity in buying items of personal interest. I’m not so sure how much is 
being spent by those wishing to more diversely invest in their portfolio in 
collectibles, but there surely must be that element too.

I’m thankful for the gain in the hobby and hope perhaps those who’ve not spent 
on posters before will, as we always seem to have a steady growth in the hobby 
with new buyers.



-



From: MoPo List  On Behalf Of Tommy Barr
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:07 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices



External Email

My favourite Star Wars poster is the style D one sheet, which apparently was 
the one George Lucas had displayed in his office, yet it doesn't seem to be 
very popular among collectors. As regards the poster auction prices, I wonder 
if Grey or Bruce can offer any insights?



Tommy



-











On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 12:40, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Helmut and Tommy - you guys are onto something.  Because yesterday I was 
tracking a Blazing Saddles insert at Heritage and I saw it jump to near $200 
with its 20% buyer's premium, a poster that can be had for a little more or a 
little less, depending upon condition and this one was pretty nice.  A Star 
Wars public health vaccination poster sold for a hefty amount too.  Yes, there 
is something going on with the market.



Meanwhile, at Nathalie, LOL. Yes I agree with you - a Johansson image on a 
poster is definitely one of personal taste.  Maybe I, too, wouldn't pay "two 
cents" for an image of her on a poster from any of her recent films - (although 
I did like her in "Hitchcock" and "Marriage Story"

Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices

[David Kusumoto]

$2,100?  That's hefty for the '77 half-sheet and might suggest the $3,000 
fetched 3 months ago at Heritage was not an anomaly.  (Concept pencil art of 
the Jung half-sheet sold for $45K in late 2017.)  Condition does matter as 
eMoviePoster sold a "good" condition HS a year ago for $430, while a "VG-fine" 
sold for $1,150.  And this is what I typically see - a range from $900 to 
$1,200 for the half-sheet.

It's indeed a personal preference - but I like the art even though it is a tad 
"busy" - because it blends the Style A with Vader's helmet in the left 
background overlooking everything from the first movie.  I also like the "GWTW" 
and the Noriyoshi Ohrai-style collages from "The Empire Strikes Back."  (I 
could never afford the ultra-rare test posters which routinely sell north of 
$10,000).  But Star Wars has, as eMoviePoster wrote in one of its essays last 
year - become a self-perpetuating industry now that Disney owns and treats it 
like one of its properties to re-introduce to succeeding generations of fans.

And yet to date, I've not yet seen one episode of the Mandalorian series which 
every SW fan, young and old, talked about last year - all the stuff involving 
Baby Yoda and even Mark Hamill somehow showing up in it. -d.


From: Adam Kennedy 
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:46 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ; David Kusumoto 

Subject: Re: Auction Prices

Great discussion. 

David,

With regards to the Star Wars half sheet, I love it and was an under-bidder on 
a high grade one last week at Hakes that went for $2,141,70.

While the art of the half sheet is amazing, it probably isn't the iconic image 
that either US or UK audiences saw when they went to the movie. As a result, 
they don't seek it which keeps the price stable. That also has the knock-on 
effect of making it unattractive to the speculators and trophy hunters.

Just my few pence worth.

Regards,

Adam.

____
From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: 02 March 2021 12:40
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices

Helmut and Tommy - you guys are onto something.  Because yesterday I was 
tracking a Blazing Saddles insert at Heritage and I saw it jump to near $200 
with its 20% buyer's premium, a poster that can be had for a little more or a 
little less, depending upon condition and this one was pretty nice.  A Star 
Wars public health vaccination poster sold for a hefty amount too.  Yes, there 
is something going on with the market.

Meanwhile, at Nathalie, LOL. Yes I agree with you - a Johansson image on a 
poster is definitely one of personal taste.  Maybe I, too, wouldn't pay "two 
cents" for an image of her on a poster from any of her recent films - (although 
I did like her in "Hitchcock" and "Marriage Story") - and even though she's 
almost jail bait in Sofia Coppola's Oscar-winning "Lost in Translation," a 
contemplative drama more than a comedy - I WOULD pay two cents for this

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8798/8brXpr.jpg<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.com%2Fimg923%2F8798%2F8brXpr.jpg=04%7C01%7C%7Cbaf515e1982d470be9bb08d8dd79345c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637502859933077371%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iMSq7HO6MhbJ45SBtOWSK2hvOSUFtLYBA4xBK5CovE8%3D=0>
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8798/8brXpr.jpg]

... but I wouldn't pay a nickel for the satirical poster below from 1997, LOL - 
(even though a ton of Seinfeld fans would)...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8946/IBnMBj.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8946/IBnMBj.jpg]


But here's a question I'll throw out there for MoPo'ers and buyers and dealers 
to think about.  It's about "Star Wars" posters from 1977.  Now that at least 
three generations have embraced the first 1977 film - I'm puzzled why this 
43-year-old half-sheet...

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5577/fZ6t6z.jpg]


...which has arguably better art by Tom Jung than other domestic '77 issue 
posters - (save for probably the Chantrell Style C) - rarely sells for more 
than $1,000.  It seems stuck in that range like a money market fund with no 
interest.  The half-sheet has never been implicated among the bootlegs like the 
minty inserts, the Style A or Style C knock-offs.  Yet when offered

Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices

[David Kusumoto]

Helmut and Tommy - you guys are onto something.  Because yesterday I was 
tracking a Blazing Saddles insert at Heritage and I saw it jump to near $200 
with its 20% buyer's premium, a poster that can be had for a little more or a 
little less, depending upon condition and this one was pretty nice.  A Star 
Wars public health vaccination poster sold for a hefty amount too.  Yes, there 
is something going on with the market.

Meanwhile, at Nathalie, LOL. Yes I agree with you - a Johansson image on a 
poster is definitely one of personal taste.  Maybe I, too, wouldn't pay "two 
cents" for an image of her on a poster from any of her recent films - (although 
I did like her in "Hitchcock" and "Marriage Story") - and even though she's 
almost jail bait in Sofia Coppola's Oscar-winning "Lost in Translation," a 
contemplative drama more than a comedy - I WOULD pay two cents for this

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8798/8brXpr.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8798/8brXpr.jpg]

... but I wouldn't pay a nickel for the satirical poster below from 1997, LOL - 
(even though a ton of Seinfeld fans would)...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8946/IBnMBj.jpg


But here's a question I'll throw out there for MoPo'ers and buyers and dealers 
to think about.  It's about "Star Wars" posters from 1977.  Now that at least 
three generations have embraced the first 1977 film - I'm puzzled why this 
43-year-old half-sheet...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5577/fZ6t6z.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5577/fZ6t6z.jpg]


...which has arguably better art by Tom Jung than other domestic '77 issue 
posters - (save for probably the Chantrell Style C) - rarely sells for more 
than $1,000.  It seems stuck in that range like a money market fund with no 
interest.  The half-sheet has never been implicated among the bootlegs like the 
minty inserts, the Style A or Style C knock-offs.  Yet when offered - it's not 
just underrated - but unloved - even though to me, it's a great collage of 
what's in the film.  Do collectors think the half-sheet format hurts it?  As a 
horizontal poster, maybe not as good as the Chantrell British Quad which 
resembles the Style C - but I think it's still good - with an image only seen 
on the half-sheet.  I thought maybe the reason is some think it's "too busy."  
Can't put my finger on why it's regarded as an "also-ran," not as good as the 
other domestic 1977 posters.

*perplexed​* -d.



From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 

Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 6:03 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Auction prices

Tommy,

I think there is one simple reason: With shops, bars, and restaurants closed in 
wide parts of the world and no holiday trips in sight either, many people have 
a lot of extra cash to spend. Many of them are working from their home office 
right now, and no commuting means more extra time to spend. And with the kids 
going on your nerve all day long, online shopping might deliver a much needed 
self-gratification. Well, that was three simple reasons...

Plus, many new collectors may have the false impression that buying at auction 
sort of guarantees a 'fair market price'. In cases like a rare and desirable 
Tarantino poster, this might even be true. If you are bidding against another 
newbie, it's not. Last not least, people are lazy. Ooops, that five simple 
reasons now.

Helmut


Am 01.03.2021 um 12:50 schrieb Tommy Barr 
mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>>:

After our musings on the prices fetched at the Ewbank's auction I notice that 
HA has also seen some strange price hikes at the weekend. For example, Battle 
of Britain o/s folded 7.5 @$300; The Lion King o/s rolled 8.5 @$324: Titanic 
2xo/s rolled 8.5 @$324.  Given that those can be bought online for a lot less, 
as has been the case with quite a number sold at auction recently, it leaves me 
perplexed as to what is going here. I don't think there is any one simple 
reason but at the moment movie poster values are proving weirdly unpredictable.

Tommy

____
From: S Yafet 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:59 PM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Ewbanks Auction today - and thoughts about Once Upon A Time 
in Hollywood posters

Very interesting reading.
Guess it's all personal.  I wouldn't pay 2 cents for a Johansson image.

Nathalie

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 1:36 AM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I've noticed similar trends of recent titles fetching higher prices.  Newbies 
tend to temporarily push up prices for posters still in release.  (I remember 
one-sheets from "Titanic" selling for crazy prices more than 20 years ago 
before falling to earth - and recently, I saw the same for one-sheets from "The 
Shape of Water" and "Parasite" af

Re: [MOPO] Ewbanks Auction today - and thoughts about Once Upon A Time in Hollywood posters

[David Kusumoto]

I've noticed similar trends of recent titles fetching higher prices.  Newbies 
tend to temporarily push up prices for posters still in release.  (I remember 
one-sheets from "Titanic" selling for crazy prices more than 20 years ago 
before falling to earth - and recently, I saw the same for one-sheets from "The 
Shape of Water" and "Parasite" after winning the Oscar for Best Picture.)

But there is another "outlier" of recent note, certainly not vintage - and it's 
the posters from Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" from 2019. 
 The "wilding" Italian-style posters by old-school artists Martin Duhovic and 
Renato Casaro fetch prices north of $1K - but even standard one-sheets with 
collage art by another classic artist - (Steven Chorney) - sell at or near the 
$100 mark in better condition.

Almost exactly two years ago - "Once Upon A Time..." was "teased" as a summer 
2019 release - and two one-sheets were shipped to theaters - an international 
"COMING SOON" - and a domestic "JULY" - the latter was tagged with a "This film 
has not yet been rated" in the lower left.  Both were popular - but the 
international versions were more - and still remain - plentiful.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6972/krbNwK.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6972/krbNwK.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7235/yfEDhd.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7235/yfEDhd.jpg]

By the spring of 2019, though, the MPAA issued its "R" rating for Tarantino's 
film.  Theaters were already displaying the other one-sheets.  Nevertheless, 
Sony-Columbia went ahead and printed a third one-sheet - a small batch with the 
"R" rating in the lower left corner.  This became the true domestic "final" - 
even though few theaters displayed it.

It took me FOREVER for me to find this version and the difficulty made it 
obvious there weren't many - and those that I did see - were unused but roughly 
handled by re-sellers.  I mention this because it was right here on MoPo - that 
I first talked about the differences in the three one-sheets and why I was 
looking for the "R" rated final.  I solicited dealers everywhere, including 
here on MoPo.  Not even the reliable Dale Dilts - who specializes in newer 
release posters, could help.  Many months later - I finally found one in nice 
condition - from an amateur re-seller in Pennsylvania.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8048/Hs9kJW.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8048/Hs9kJW.jpg]

Well, earlier this month, for the first time ever - eMoviePoster put up all 
three known 1-sheets featuring the Steven Chorney art - up against each other.  
Apparently, a few others had the same info that I did.

1. International double-sided advance (which is the most plentiful) - sold for 
$108.
2. Domestic USA single-sided advance with no rating - sold for $142.
3. Domestic USA double-sided advance FINAL with the R rating - sold for $285.
 ​
eMoviePoster had sold the "R" version just once before - a typical "fair" 
condition example that still fetched $90.  I'm not sure if Heritage has ever 
sold the "R" version - but it and eMoviePoster have both sold the international 
and the unrated domestic enough times - to rack up a track record of prices 
realized.

What I'm leading to is I have a funny feeling that no matter how one feels the 
Tarantino film - this "standard theatrical" one-sheet - has a shot at joining 
this century's "Lost in Translation" - (Johansson image, 2003) - for being 
consistently sought after by collectors.  I remember consigning a giant vinyl 
banner with the Johansson image (I had nowhere to hang it) - I was shocked when 
it sold for more than $1,000.  Even high grade DS one-sheets with her image 
fetch hundreds of $$$.  I could be wrong, but prices for the Tarantino poster 
haven't dropped yet.

Forgive the long ramble, just musings sparked by Helmut's and Tommy's 
observations. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Tommy Barr 

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:06 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Ewbanks Auction today

I watched the auction sporadically and agree that there were some strange 
results. I think, however, that prices have been volatile on all the auction 
sites recently, even HA and emovie showing some anomalous results.Some posters 
which normally fetch mid double figures have been going for three figures, and 
the bids on many mid-level items seem to have grown exponentially. No idea why, 
but I can't accept the premise that there are lots of new collectors suddenly 
coming in to the market. I would have thought that anyone starting to collect 
now would initially be looking for posters from the comic-inspired superhero 
movies, Bond or Star Wars, but there weren't many of those in the Ewbank's 
auction.
Tommy

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:34, Helmut Hamm 
mailto:texasmu...@web.de>> wrote:

Over the day, I watched the Ewbanks auction on and off and the results were 

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Re: [MOPO] Thanksgiving

[David Kusumoto]

Happy birthday to one of the legendary cornerstones in the hobby.  You made it, 
Morrie!  Hence everything moving forward is a bonus.  How many thought we'd 
make it to 50 or 60 and 70 and so on?  WE STILL THINK HIGH SCHOOL HAPPENED 
YESTERDAY.  And yet when we sheepishly ask for a senior discount, we get it! No 
questions asked! WTF? They don't even ask for ID! They believe you! Your AARP 
card and driver's license is not needed! Weird effing dilemma! Grateful to save 
money - but the trade-off is momentary humiliation when they rub your nose in 
it, How dare they? Ungrateful SOBs!  Have a great Thanksgiving! 


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Morris Everett Jr. 

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 6:41 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Thanksgiving

As I near my 80th birthday I wish all MOPOers a happy Thanksging. I know that I 
have much to be thankful for.



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Re: [MOPO] What's going on with today's Heritage auction

[David Kusumoto]

From what I saw, people didn't seem to be holding onto their cash. Casablanca 
material was incredible, esp. the $384,000 for the six-sheet, which has come up 
a few times - but never fetching that price. (I remember Rudy Franchi 
showcasing a poster in that format at a pre-sale preview in L.A. for Christie's 
20 years ago.)  I also saw wild prices for Star Wars material - while someone 
got lucky getting a nice condition Gilda style B on linen for "just" $24K. - d.



From: MoPo List  on behalf of Toochis r 

Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:21 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: What's going on with today's Heritage auction

Congratulations Grey!  That KING KONG 3SH was a beauty.  So many lovely lots.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 12:37 PM Tom Martin 
mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
 wrote:
OH Boy!!
so sat nov 14
i used my paypal..andgota haircut..bought some batereis..and thenwent to
Kroger

i bought oster can opener on my way outandused cash

so i went tocashier window and said id liketo withdraw 40.00 on my debit
card//


the woman said invalid PIN number!!!

we tried 3=4 times..after 3 it LOcks you OUT oftheacct!!


so when i got home i called
they said we need to send a text to verify you are You

i said iam ona Flip Phone how do i talkand see a textat same time...iam.
nota tech wizard

me an while paypal went to defcon 10 as i am sure when i said iam blind
and very old 65

so theysend me Capcha..try seeing how many bikes ae inthepic while
Blind...LOLOL
so the customer service in Phillipine

OKKK..so then my computer Froze and wheni tried toreinstall theOS it
locked up..

so theni tried to login...anda block window came up...anda phone to
call...a indian dialect man got on said we will help yousir..he remote
acced my computer

yep i allowed a hacker into thecomputer
  talk about dumb..

so i called the cable guys brainiacs andthey remote acced andinstall
virus potection


I spoke to abou 6 operators///as iam computerilliteate


OK??

thenI called apple.. as i have 2 imacs one i bought last year to geta
helper to liston ebay before thatpandemicbuthad eye surgey in
ZNOve2019 to fix a eye that failed to fix so then Pandemic hit in.
Jan202


so the new computeri never used so i plugged in and againthe 6 brainiacs
all over,,,andthenthe compterslowed toa buffering ...could notevenmlog
on


did i mention i am a 64 year old boomer  with no computerskills..??

so I called my service mac place wherti bought the 1st computerin 2--6
andtheysaid well thatobsolete..but we may be able to saveiti think
iereased thgedisc///but foundthe Os1- discs so it turns on..andi
didntstore much on it evger.
soilltake in and hope they can get it reinstalled


meanwhile computer 2 ..apple reinstallled othe OX10 aftera clean wie i
was onthephone with themn andtheothers since sat nov14 My one  eye was
so tired i see even worse...LOL
but its been likeGod said ok you need to learn andman haveigot boot
camp. sigh

so theni was told i should geta new computer,2015 or newer

so I may buy a 3rd..neweer one..I can geta 24 inch foraround 249 free
shippingoff ebay//

God works in Mysterious ways..

what a lessson
I finally got into paypal and changed thePIN

whew... they had me withdraw thecash so i said is theentire  financiaql
system crashing i thinkk itmay be///so be carefull everyone.. myson
said theywont release his funs until he ships and show proof andhe told
me they dont do paypal soon on ebaybut theystill take itas a fund
source

anyways i got the haircut for 7.99 at great clips...its a real clip
Joint. :)

and new can opener 20.00 , Food so i can go back into lock down mode

i boxed up computer 1 and willtake in for repairs

Iam so thankful for everythingand everybodyas i havbe learned we
areallstressed..andhave similar issues//so

the trining was good but i was ina panic depressed situation since 14


also since sept oncea week i see a podatrist for my foot..ilost part
ofthe2 toe..toa infection fromdiabetes...

thge good news is mya1c was a 7 andivecharted everyday my blood
sugar..thepc doc said even my cholestrol went okhow?? i eat one meal
a day and suppliment with vitamind. fruit, nutsandhardlyany bread
orsugar...i was shocked i was 7 i nowe get low sugard today this am was
49!!!


so we learn by experience..
also iask God to guide me and so far i feel he does a good friend of
over 30 years died oct 28,,i senthis wife flowersanda letter saying
happy graduation !!!as i think whenits time Godsays ok you are ready..
me?? i seem  to bea slow learner//:) but the whole purpos ofthis short
life is teo prepare us for the real everlasting life i think that christ
promised us..

I voted Biden  because i felt he suffered..his wife daugfhter,,and son
Beu... he learbned what iam learning  that love compassion and
forgivness are what matter andwe need to help each other..as all suffer
as we know in our Tiny field of posters.

as far as who is 

Re: [MOPO] What do you go ahead and throw away?

[David Kusumoto]

I do not live alone but I HAVE - as I've written before - seen many collectors 
and dealers come and go - and I'm mindful, having passed 60 a few years ago - 
of my own impending mortality - and not wanting the people I leave behind - to 
go through my "clutter" to keep only what they subjectively believe are the 
crown jewels that means more $ to them - vs. what's sentimental that is passed 
down to each succeeding generation with divergent reactions.

I do believe that advertising mattes to "big movies" will always have some 
value even though all I have left are from Star Wars and Jaws - and they're 
hardly considered rare nor pricey.  (Confusing nomenclature though - press 
books vs. press "kits" - both sent to the press - but press kits with photos 
and summary pages are for reviewers - while "press books" with mattes are for 
ads - and further confusing matters - some early press books are press kits 
with everything included.)

As for video posters and their ilk - I toss them.  Program from non-classics, I 
toss.  Posters from films I like that no one else does, I keep or toss - e.g., 
the BQ from "Artificial Intelligence" from 2000 - is TACKED in my garage above 
our washer and dryer - because its value is small in relation to the hassles to 
sell it.  That's when the effort to unload and squeeze value for things few 
want to buy - has to be weighed and for me - it goes into the dust bin or 
becomes a temporary "decoration" until I literally, RIP it down.

I've dumped a lot of rolled one-sheets from titles that few remember because 
I've fallen out of love with them - and I was also influenced by the 
performance of these items when Bruce used to take everything - and such 
information was instructive on what was worth selling and what was not.  It's 
why I like his new $20 minimum format of accepting only consignments valued at 
$20 or more each or combined in a lot.  (Although browsing through his 
bi-weekly listings is a chore if only because while decreasing their frequency 
- those auctions are almost double in size than the ones he used to host every 
week.)  But prices are higher accordingly, esp. as he churns through those last 
old consignments still valued under $20.

My definition of nostalgia rarely lines up with most people from a younger 
generation.  I thought the same at times about the tastes of the older 
generation until I myself, like others in the hobby - learned to appreciate 
"their" films.  -d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Christopher Quarles 

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: What do you go ahead and throw away?

Having lived alone, for the most part, for the last 12 years, I have been 
attempting to declutter my house and organize my hobbies. As I approach seven 
decades on the planet and, having no heirs or close friends who share my 
passions, I am getting rid of things. I am selling or keeping stuff that is 
worth more than a pittance. I have thrown away some things and am giving away 
much of the rest. (Charities that pick up from your front porch every month are 
wonderful.)

Although I haven’t researched it yet, I don’t think movie advertising sheets 
(not press books, which are worth something sometimes), and video posters (back 
when we had video movie rental stores) are worth keeping. There are a few 
exceptions for posters from video rental stores for titles that may not have 
received wide release.

I worked in a movie theater in the 1970s and have boxes of Advertising mats. 
For those who don’t know, these are sheets with printed ads, always in 
black-and-white in my town, which the manager painstakingly cut and pasted to 
deliver to the local newspaper to be printed for that week‘s offering. The 
theaters received 10 to 20 large sheets with one main style ad and a few 
variations.  I’ve already pitched Into the trash the ad mats for the double 
feature bad news bears and Little Darlings. But what about movies, big movies 
like Close Encounters, Saturday night fever, and Taxi Driver. People collect 
posters, press books, and stills, but I don’t think there is a market for these 
advertising mats/sheets. But I want to know what you guys think. And I mean 
guys in the all-inclusive sense.

Same thing with a Posters for the video store release back when that was a 
thing. On some you have to look closely to see that it is a video Poster rather 
than the one in the theater. Dead Calm was one example I stumbled on today in 
my garage. Should I hold on to something like that if it is in excellent 
condition? Or should I throw it away or put in the recycling been? I’ve already 
decided that if the video release poster is not in near mint condition, I will 
recycle or pitch.

Meanwhile it’s pouring down rain here in Daytona Beach, Florida. I breathlessly 
await your opinions so that I can continue with my quest. It is much cooler in 
my garage when it rains. What is your favorite 

[MOPO] Mystery email about alleged destruction of memorabilia.

[David Kusumoto]

Today I (and apparently 72 others, including some MoPo members) received the 
unsolicited email below (personal email addresses redacted for privacy). It 
appears to be some type of legal message about the destruction of memorabilia 
linked to entities dissolved 20 years ago. Why it was sent today is a mystery 
and I've no time to investigate it. If anyone cares to venture a guess, please 
jump in. Very cryptic, odd. - d.

From: Film International 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020, 11:28 AM
To:
Subject: Close Out

IFA est. 1967
CCMPRL est. 1963
CCMPRI est. 1963
Cinecommcentre est. 1964
Paramount Theatre est 1960
Cinema70 est 1993
ceased operations on: Jul 4, 2000 at 5:48 PM EDT

All files and paper materials were shredded and/or disposed of by conventional 
means.
All restored 35mm flat, widescreen,Cinerama,and Cinemiracle prints recycled
  for silver content.
All 70mm standard and anamorphic prints similarly disposed of.
All projectors, moviolas, editing items, telecines, 35mm/70mm camera and 
projection lenses
where scrap salvaged.
No items were allocated for auctions at Sotherby, Christie, or Heritage.
No items were oggered for bids or direct sale on Ebay.

There is email was reactivated for transmission of this message.
It will not accept replies


Thank you,

Owain Donaldson
former Curator and Cine Reconstructionist



12:55 09/06/20


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Re: [MOPO] Third story about eBay's cyberstalking in tomorrow's WSJ

[David Kusumoto]

A third story about this appears in in Section B of tomorrow's WSJ.

-

ANOTHER FORMER eBay WORKER IS ACCUSED OF CYBERSTALKING
Retired police captain supervised security work at the company's European and 
Asian offices.

By Maria Armental for the Wall Street Journal
Wednesday, July 8, 2020 - (First posted online July 7, 2020 6:01 pm ET)

--

A retired police captain who oversaw security operations at eBay Inc.'s 
European and Asian offices has been charged in a cyberstalking campaign that 
targeted a couple whom eBay executives viewed as critical of the company, the 
Justice Department said Tuesday.

Philip Cooke, 55 years old, is the seventh former eBay employee charged in the 
alleged cyberstalking campaign against a Massachusetts couple who publish an 
e-commerce blog, EcommerceBytes.

Mr. Cooke was charged in Boston federal court with conspiracy to commit 
cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses to hinder the local 
police investigation.

A lawyer for Mr. Cooke declined to comment.

The attacks, according to court documents, included sending the couple 
threatening Twitter messages and packages that contained live cockroaches, a 
preserved fetal pig and a bloody-pig Halloween mask, along with a funeral 
wreath and a book on surviving the loss of a spouse.

In addition, the authorities said, a subscription for pornographic magazines 
was ordered in the name of the husband to be sent to the neighbors' homes.

The Justice Department also accuses the former eBay employees, whose 
responsibilities included security and global intelligence, of conducting 
covert surveillance of the Natick, Mass., couple.

The couple, Ina and David Steiner, didn't immediately respond to a request for 
comment.

EBay Chief Executive Jamie Iannone, speaking at the annual shareholder meeting 
last month, called the actions attributed to the fired workers "awful" and said 
he had apologized to the couple.

"The events from last year never should have happened, yet it gives us a chance 
to reflect, to reset and to act," Mr. Iannone said. "Integrity is the 
foundation of how I work, and as CEO, I will hold our leadership team and all 
employees to this same standard."



From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:48 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WSJ FRONT PAGE - NEWLY UPDATED STORY - "CRUSH THIS LADY" - INSIDE 
eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

Bruce

Yes they DO contradict each other.  In my view, the WSJ published the two 
"contradictory" references you cited - ON PURPOSE.  Like any well-written and 
"impartial" news story - it lays out divergent "facts" - without bias.  (Bias 
in news writing is more obvious today when a reporter starts a sentence with 
the word, "But" without using quotes - inserting his or her perceptions / 
interpretations of apparent contradictions immediately thereafter.)

Instead, in this story, readers see those two references - and gets to decide 
how they feel about ex-eBay CEO Devin Wenig's role in this federal 
investigation.

Speaking for MYSELF - Devin Wenig is a liar who should have been indicted.  To 
me, it does not matter that Wenig claims his texts refer to a broad policy of 
responding to eBay's critics in a benign way.  He was still the highest ranking 
officer who approved this strategy - and at the very least, indirectly approved 
- (with or without specific knowledge of live cockroaches, adult DVDs and the 
like) - the intimidation / harassment actions against the Steiners.  His 
lieutenants acknowledged this in their texts - that the campaign against the 
Steiners was supported by Wenig.

The WSJ has a good track record of "takedowns" which eventually lead to top 
officers facing jail, e.g., former Theranos chief Elizabeth Holmes, who bilked 
billions on an invention that didn't work, i.e., a single blood test that was 
marketed as diagnosing many diseases from a single draw.

David

____
From: Bruce Hershenson 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:15 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WSJ FRONT PAGE - NEWLY UPDATED STORY - "CRUSH THIS LADY" - 
INSIDE eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

David

Two quotes from the article:

" Mr. Wenig, who left the company last fall, said in an interview he didn’t 
order any type of harassment of the Steiners, nor was he aware of the security 
team’s efforts.  "

" A text exchange cited in the affidavit indicates that after being alerted to 
the stories by Mr. Wymer, Mr. Wenig texted him: “If you are ever going to take 
her down, now is the time.”

Don't the above two quotes directly contradict each other? Am I missing 
something?

Bruce


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3

Re: [MOPO] WSJ FRONT PAGE - NEWLY UPDATED STORY - "CRUSH THIS LADY" - INSIDE eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

[David Kusumoto]

Bruce

Yes they DO contradict each other.  In my view, the WSJ published the two 
"contradictory" references you cited - ON PURPOSE.  Like any well-written and 
"impartial" news story - it lays out divergent "facts" - without bias.  (Bias 
in news writing is more obvious today when a reporter starts a sentence with 
the word, "But" without using quotes - inserting the reporter's perception 
/ interpretation of contradictions immediately thereafter.)

Instead, in this story, the reader reads the those two references and gets to 
decide how he or she feels about ex-eBay CEO Devin Wenig's role in this federal 
investigation.

Thus, speaking for MYSELF - Devin Wenig is a liar who should have been 
indicted.  To me, it does not matter that Wenig claims his texts broadly refer 
to the policy of responding to eBay's critics in a benign way.  He was still 
the highest ranking officer who directly approved this strategy - and at the 
very least, indirectly approved - (with or without specific knowledge of live 
cockroaches, adult DVDs and the like) - the intimidation and harassment actions 
against the Steiners.  His lieutenants acknowledged in their messages that 
their campaign against the Steiners was supported by Wenig.

The WSJ has a good track record of "takedowns" which eventually lead to top 
officers facing jail, e.g., former Theranos chief Elizabeth Holmes, who bilked 
billions on an invention that didn't work, i.e., a single blood test that was 
marketed as diagnosing many diseases from a single draw.

David


From: Bruce Hershenson 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:15 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WSJ FRONT PAGE - NEWLY UPDATED STORY - "CRUSH THIS LADY" - 
INSIDE eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

David

Two quotes from the article:

" Mr. Wenig, who left the company last fall, said in an interview he didn’t 
order any type of harassment of the Steiners, nor was he aware of the security 
team’s efforts.  "

" A text exchange cited in the affidavit indicates that after being alerted to 
the stories by Mr. Wymer, Mr. Wenig texted him: “If you are ever going to take 
her down, now is the time.”

Don't the above two quotes directly contradict each other? Am I missing 
something?

Bruce


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:06 AM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
The WSJ has posted a second front page story this morning (Thursday, June 25, 
2020) - a follow-up to its original story about federal cyberstalking charges 
against eBay.  Five (5) reporters have now been assigned to the story.  Pretty 
sure the WSJ is rightly taking this personal.

Copy and pasted text below.

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PAGE ONE - WALL STREET JOURNAL
Thursday, June 25, 2020

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"CRUSH THIS LADY." INSIDE eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

Security employees allegedly orchestrated deliveries of live cockroaches, 
pornographic videos and a mask of a bloody pig’s head

By Kirsten Grind and Sebastian Herrera
Originally posted on June 24, 2020 10:34 am ET

—Elisa Cho, Cara Lombardo and Jim Oberman contributed to this article.



The box of live cockroaches delivered to their door was the last straw for 
David and Ina Steiner.

For more than two decades, the professional collectors ran a niche e-commerce 
blog out of their home in the Boston suburbs, with a focus on Amazon.com Inc. 
and eBay Inc.

---

Then, last August, the couple started receiving threatening emails and tweets.

Not long after, according to federal investigators, a package arrived with a 
mask of a bloody pig’s head.

Next, they received a funeral wreath. Neighbors were sent pornographic videos 
addressed to one of the Steiners.
Strange cars seemed to follow them around their small town of Natick, Mass. 
They repeatedly called the local police, who say they initially thought the 
incidents might be pranks.

The Steiners photographed one of the suspicious vehicles tailing them.

With the photo, the local police tracked the license plate to a rental car 
checked out to a Veronica Zea, staying at Boston’s Ritz-Carlton hotel along 
with a man named David Harville, according to an affidavit from a Federal 
Bureau of Investigation agent working the case.

---

Then the police discovered something really curious: Both Ms. Zea and Mr. 
Harville worked for eBay, the $34 billion online marketplace based more than 
3,000 miles away in San Jose, Calif.

[MOPO] WSJ FRONT PAGE - NEWLY UPDATED STORY - "CRUSH THIS LADY" - INSIDE eBay's BIZARRE CAMPAIGN AGAINST A BLOG CRITIC.

[David Kusumoto]

am members to delete their WhatsApp and phone data, 
according to the affidavit.

---

The eBay board’s audit committee learned of the investigation in late August, 
and the broader board was briefed the following month during a five-hour call 
led by lawyers at Morgan Lewis & Bockius, according to people familiar with the 
matter.

The board was told the investigation found no evidence that Mr. Wenig was aware 
of the actions, these people said.

---

The company placed Messrs. Baugh and Harville and another member of the 
security team on administrative leave on Aug. 30.

The company later fired all six who were charged, and Mr. Wymer.

---

When Mr. Wenig was pushed out as CEO in late September, the directors said the 
main reasons were the company’s financial performance and his disagreement with 
a large investor about the best path forward for the company, according to 
people familiar with the matter.

The investigation also played a role, and directors blamed him for setting a 
cutthroat tone at the top. Mr. Wenig received a $57 million exit package.

---

On the day the U.S. attorney’s office announced its charges, Ms. Steiner posted 
a press release to ECommerceBytes, with no further comment.


(END)

From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re - (FULL TEXT WSJ FRONT PAGE) - JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CHARGES FORMER 
eBay STAFF WITH 'CYBERSTALKING CAMPAIGN'


Sorry for not responding to requests until hours later.  This story may have 
since been updated - but the WSJ gave it the biggest play this morning - 
because it was also threatened by eBay.


Because it and the NY Times - gave it big play - copycat news organizations 
have since followed, piggy-backing on the WSJ's original research and delving 
into the complaint itself.



Note that in all news accounts, eBay responds by distancing itself - saying 
that all defendants no longer work for eBay.  It's obvious that it knew about 
the federal investigations well before yesterday's announcement by the DOJ - 
and was bracing for the worst while launching a damage control strategy in its 
prepared statements to news organizations.



Nevertheless, here is the longer WSJ story as it appeared on this morning's 
front page. The WSJ has always had a paywall for its exclusively researched 
content.



The shorter NY Times version should be accessible to all in private mode.



=

=

=


PAGE ONE - WALL STREET JOURNAL



JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CHARGES FORMER eBay STAFF WITH 'CYBERSTALKING CAMPAIGN'



Cockroaches, a bloody-pig mask: six former workers at eBay are alleged to have 
stalked a newsletter editor.



By Sebastian Herrera for the Wall Street Journal

Tuesday, June 16, 2020



--



The U.S. Department of Justice has charged six former workers at eBay Inc. with 
leading a cyberstalking campaign against a Massachusetts couple who publish an 
e-commerce blog, EcommerceBytes, that criticized the company.



The department on Monday said the attacks included sending the couple 
threatening Twitter messages and packages that contained live cockroaches, a 
funeral wreath and a bloody-pig mask.



The department also alleges that the defendants, whose responsibilities 
included security and global intelligence, conducted covert surveillance of the 
Natick, Mass., couple.



--



The alleged actions by the employees, whom eBay fired in September after an 
investigation, followed criticism of EcommerceBytes by top executives that 
included Devin Wenig, the company's chief executive at the time, according to 
the complaint, which doesn't identify Mr. Wenig by name.



"We are going to crush this lady," an unnamed eBay executive texted on April 
10, 2019, to another unnamed eBay executive, identified as "Executive 1" in the 
complaint.



The text included a link to an EcommerceBytes blog post about "Executive 1's 
compensation," the complaint says.



The blog post is titled "eBay CEO Devin Wenig Earns 152 Times That of 
Employees," indicating that Mr. Wenig is Executive 1 in the complaint. That 
person hasn't been charged.



--



Later, after an unspecified EcommerceBytes post on May 31, Mr. Wenig texted: 
"Take her down."



At another point, he also used an expletive to refer to The Wall Street 
Journal's coverage of the company. "The journal is next on the list," he said 
in the text, according to the complaint.



It couldn't be determined if the Journal or any of its reporters was targeted.



--



Early in 2019, EBay was locked in a battle with activist investors Elliott 
Management Corp. and Starboard Value LP, which were pushing for board seats and 
a deal that it was believed could lead to a company breakup.



EBay has since sold off the ticketing site StubHub and is considering a s

[MOPO] Re - (FULL TEXT WSJ FRONT PAGE) - JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CHARGES FORMER eBay STAFF WITH 'CYBERSTALKING CAMPAIGN'

[David Kusumoto]

ot; a special committee formed by 
eBay's board of directors said Monday.  "EBay holds its employees to high 
standards of conduct and ethics and will continue to take appropriate action to 
ensure these standards are followed."



--



Those charged included James Baugh, who was senior director of safety and 
security at eBay, David Harville, formerly director of global resiliency, and 
Brian Gilbert, a manager in the company's global security team.



The other defendants are Stephanie Popp, Stephanie Stockwell and contractor 
Veronica Zea, all of whom worked in eBay's global intelligence operations.



Mr. Baugh and Mr. Harville were arrested Monday on charges of conspiracy to 
commit cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witness, each of which carry 
a potential sentence of up to five years in prison.



Mr. Gilbert, Ms. Popp, Ms. Stockwell and Ms. Zea also face the same charges and 
are scheduled to appear in federal court, the department said.



The defendants couldn't be reached for comment.



--



The alleged cyberstalking began after the newsletter wrote about litigation 
involving the online marketplace, according to the complaint.



Members of eBay's executive team followed the newsletter's posts and often took 
issues with its content, according to the Justice Department.



--



The former employees allegedly carried out the harassment campaign in three 
parts.



They sent items including a preserved fetal pig, a bloody-pig Halloween mask 
and a book on surviving the loss of a spouse, the department said.



Some of the former employees also sent private messages over Twitter, as well 
as public tweets, criticizing the newsletter, according to the department.



In a third phase, the former employees spied on the couple at their home and 
community, the department said.



--



On Aug. 15, Mr. Baugh, Mr. Harville and Ms. Zea allegedly drove to the couple's 
home with the intent of breaking into their garage and installing a GPS 
tracking device on their car.



In the event that they were stopped by police, Mr. Baugh and Mr. Harville 
carried false documents purporting to show they were investigating the couple 
in connection with threats to eBay executives, the department said.



The couple, however, detected the covert attempt and notified police, who began 
an investigation.



The former employees attempted to interfere with evidence and lied to the 
police about eBay's involvement, the department said.



--



The charges Monday cap off a turbulent period for eBay.



Mr. Wenig's departure in September was part of an exodus of eBay executives and 
managers last year.  The former CEO said at the time that he had disagreements 
with eBay's board, which was deliberating selling assets of the company after 
pressure from activist investors Elliott Management Corp. and Starboard Value 
LP.



EBay, which in April named Walmart Inc. executive Jamie Iannone as its new CEO, 
has considered selling its classified-advertising business, which could be 
worth $10 billion, The Wall Street Journal has reported.  In February, eBay 
closed the sale of its StubHub ticket-sales unit in a $4.05 billion deal with 
Viagogo Entertainment Inc.



--



EcommerceBytes writes extensively about eBay. The site published short posts 
about several of the executives who recently departed and also critical takes 
on actions at the company.



In one post dealing with an eBay lawsuit against Amazon filed last year, Ms. 
Steiner wrote that Mr. Wenig, the former eBay CEO, "demonstrated a lack of 
appreciation" for third-party sellers who want to sell on various tech 
platforms.



In another post in May 2019, the site reported that eBay had built on its 
campus an expensive replica of a popular Manhattan bar. The article noted that 
Mr. Wenig was a New York City transplant.



"EBay is charging sellers more and offering less (see its 2019 first-quarter 
financials)" Ms. Steiner wrote. "They might be wondering what took investors so 
long to speak up on how the company's management and board of directors are 
using the revenue generated by sellers' fees. Stiff drink, anyone?"



Comments on articles about eBay at times were critical of the company and its 
executives.



From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:36 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Former eBay employees allegedly used cockroaches, spiders, and a 
gruesome mask to harass a couple

The story is on the FRONT PAGE of tomorrow's WSJ - and - on page 1 of Section B 
in tomorrow's New York Times.

In the WSJ story, Ina and David are named:

"Ina Steiner, the editor of EcommerceBytes and the author of the posts, as well 
as her husband David Steiner, didn’t respond to requests for comment Monday."

The WSJ reports that eBay CEO Devin Wenig texted (about the Ina Steiner) - 
"Take her down.&quo

Re: [MOPO] Former eBay employees allegedly used cockroaches, spiders, and a gruesome mask to harass a couple

[David Kusumoto]

The story is on the FRONT PAGE of tomorrow's WSJ - and - on page 1 of Section B 
in tomorrow's New York Times.

In the WSJ story, Ina and David are named:

"Ina Steiner, the editor of EcommerceBytes and the author of the posts, as well 
as her husband David Steiner, didn’t respond to requests for comment Monday."

The WSJ reports that eBay CEO Devin Wenig texted (about the Ina Steiner) - 
"Take her down." At another point, Wenig used an expletive to refer to the Wall 
Street Journal’s coverage of eBay, adding, "The journal is next on the list."

* The attached picture is an example of what was sent to Ina and David's home, 
i.e., a bloodied pig's head mask - and a book entitled, "Surviving the Loss of 
a Spouse."

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9108/gS8Ps8.jpg]

If you hit a paywall, let me know and I - (or anyone else who has access) - 
will post the full text later.

--

Tuesday, June 16, 2020
PAGE ONE - Front Page, A1 - Wall Street Journal

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CHARGES FORMER eBay STAFF WITH 'CYBERSTALKING CAMPAIGN'

https://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-charges-former-ebay-employees-with-cyberstalking-campaign-11592241507
[https://images.wsj.net/im-198541/social]
Justice Department Charges Former eBay Staff With ‘Cyberstalking Campaign’ - 
WSJ
The U.S. Department of Justice has charged six former workers at eBay Inc. with 
leading a cyberstalking campaign against a Massachusetts couple who publish an 
e-commerce blog, EcommerceBytes, that ...
www.wsj.com

---

Tuesday, June 16, 2020
Section B, Page 1 NY Times

U.S. SAYS LIVE ROACHES WERE SENT TO eBay CRITICS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/technology/ebay-cyberstalking-with-cockroaches-and-bloody-pig-face.html
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Ex-eBay Workers Sent Critics Live Roaches and a Mask of a Bloody Pig Face, U.S. 
Says - The New York 
Times
Six former employees of the site sent threatening messages and deliveries to a 
couple after the e-commerce newsletter they published wrote about a lawsuit 
involving eBay. Joseph R. Bonavolonta ...
www.nytimes.com

==
On 2020-06-15 21:25, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

UNBELIEVABLE! 21 years ago, when I moved my auction business entirely online, I 
met a couple, Ina and David Steiner, who had just started a site devoted to 
online auctions called https://www.ecommercebytes.com/

I found (and have continued to find over the years since) that their site was 
one of the only online sites to provide the "straight dope" about online 
selling. Naturally this included much negative information about eBay, as the 
auction site did all they could to keep raising fees on their sellers, while 
adding insane regulations to being a seller. I left Bay in 2007 after 330,000 
auctions there, and ecommercebytes covered my departure honestly and fairly.

NOW, this has happened, and it is something NO ONE could possibly have expected 
from ANY company. The couple referred to in the article below (although they 
are unnamed) ARE Ina and David Steiner, and I guarantee reading this will turn 
your stomach. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/tech/ebay-cyberstalking/index.html
[https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200615133710-ebay-restricted-super-tease.jpg]
eBay: Former employees allegedly used cockroaches, spiders, and a gruesome mask 
to harass a couple - 
CNN
Six former eBay employees face charges for cyberstalking and tampering with 
evidence after, according to federal prosecutors, they harassed a Boston-area 
couple who ran a news site that was at ...
www.cnn.com


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[MOPO] Dwight Cleveland sues John Kisch, seeking $1.1 million.

[David Kusumoto]

Sometimes I'll post something to the group - which sparks private emails people 
alerting me about developments relevant to the hobby.

Submitted without comment - here's a story that ran last Friday in one of USA 
Today's locally owned papers.

https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/04/03/george-lucas-founded-museum-rhinebeck-man-involved-1-1-m-suit/5102035002/
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The Rhinebeck man promised a 15% commission to his friend if he sold the art 
collection for $7.5 million, according to court filings.
www.poughkeepsiejournal.com

From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 9:19 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: More about Dwight Cleveland in the news.

Profile of Dwight in the latest issue of the University of Chicago Magazine.

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When Dwight M. Cleveland, MBA’87, sees a film poster that has ascended from 
advertising to art, “it’s just really kind of a visceral thing,” he says.“Most 
of the stuff that I buy, it’s like a chemical reaction when I see it.” That 
deep-seated intuition goes back to his earliest days as a collector.
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[MOPO] More about Dwight Cleveland in the news.

[David Kusumoto]

Profile of Dwight in the latest issue of the University of Chicago Magazine.

https://mag.uchicago.edu/arts-humanities/poster-perfect
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Poster perfect | The University of Chicago 
Magazine
When Dwight M. Cleveland, MBA’87, sees a film poster that has ascended from 
advertising to art, “it’s just really kind of a visceral thing,” he says.“Most 
of the stuff that I buy, it’s like a chemical reaction when I see it.” That 
deep-seated intuition goes back to his earliest days as a collector.
mag.uchicago.edu


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Re: [MOPO] It's Our SILVER Anniversary! 25 Years of MoPo!

[David Kusumoto]

Congrats, Scott!  Despite having more senior moments of late - (the reaper 
still awaits!) - I recall the rollicking early years and the famous names that 
have been brought up here as a "public service" to others and sometimes not.  I 
think I joined MoPo in 1996, because months later, Todd F.'s one-sheet from 
"The Mummy" went on sale in L.A. - and that was my first encounter with a 
couple of MoPo members in person. One LESS obvious thing I've noticed, 24 years 
later (for me) - is how smart phones have reduced the length of many posts 
across-the-board, not just at MoPo - but in social media.  I'm so old that I 
still prefer a full keyboard and won't post from a smartphone. I've saved some 
of the more memorable exchanges in a separate folder - just because they're fun 
to read and to recall what the collective mindset was so long ago - as well as 
to preserve messages from people who have passed.  I still regard MoPo as a 
legacy "brand," the place where it all started for people like me.  Thank you! 
-d.



From: MoPo List  on behalf of Scott Burns 

Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: It's Our SILVER Anniversary! 25 Years of MoPo!


Who would have thought MoPo would still be around 25 years after that first 
listserv message was sent on February 24, 1995…be here we are



MoPo really started in 1994 when a small group of movie memorabilia collectors 
found each other on Usenet (you youngsters may have to Google that) and began 
CC’ing each other on e-mails discussing the hobby. It was a primitive mailing 
list, but it worked. Then in early 1995 as our distribution list grew, American 
University student Adam Ehrlich discovered his school allowed students to 
set-up a listserv discussion group—for free–and MoPo was officially launched. 
It’s interesting that once a list begins, as long as it stays active and has a 
listowner (that would be ME!) AU just lets it chug along even after a student 
graduates. Even more amazing is that AU still maintains their listserv system 
at all. But a big thank you is in order to American U for giving MoPo a home 
for all these years.



As is my annual tradition, I salute the original 11 who were here 25 years ago 
today: Mahtab Moayeri, Michael Danese, Rob Ellis, Donna Tschetter, Goh Kai 
Shen, Evan Zweifel, George Nichol, Jeff Static (using AOL name Static555), 
Cindy Nemeth-Johannes (sadly we lost Cindy in 2008, but her husband Jay is 
still a MoPo member), myself, and of course, (former) AU student Adam Ehrlich. 
I’m happy to report that in addition to Jay, Michael, Rob and Evan are still 
with us 25 years later!



It seems unreal that 25 years have passed since MoPo began…time does really fly 
if you’ll pardon the cliché. I was an avid collector back at the beginning, but 
as the years have passed (along with my hair line), I find myself content with 
my collection as it is and have begun thinking about what I’m going to do with 
all these beautiful images that are now living in storage boxes. But every day 
I do enjoy looking at my favorites that have been carefully framed and hang on 
the walls and they will probably be the last to go should I ever decide to 
liquidate. (I have a feeling I’ll be liquidated before those cherished gems 
are!)



My thanks to all MoPo’ers, past and present, for a wonderful 25 years. Happy 
Silver Anniversary MoPo!



Scott

MoPo List Owner

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[MOPO] Seven years ago today... - Metropolis, Eight Other Posters Sell for $1.2 million

[David Kusumoto]

Might be uncomfortable for some - but it was the last "article" I wrote about 
the hobby before ending my journalism / consumer activist crusade on these 
boards - which began on MoPo and at MCW in the 1990s - for good...  (Could no 
longer be impartial writing these things so I stopped.)  Sometimes I miss the 
fighting, but most times I don't.  No replies necessary, just posting as 
"dubious nostalgia."

Thursday, December 13, 2012
Metropolis, Eight Other Posters Sell for $1.2 million.

http://davidkusumoto.blogspot.com/2012/12/metropolis-eight-other-posters-sell-for.html

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[MOPO] Dale: WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

[David Kusumoto]

Dale -

Thanks so MUCH for the detailed reply. Whenever I'm at a cinema, I see "now 
playing" posters on display as well as "coming soon" posters - but most don't 
have ratings at all and I surmised that shelf relevance and convenience are the 
reasons why so few posters are on display with final MPAA ratings.

I also liked your description of edge wear that are not dings - e.g., 
"spider-vein" impact creases. (Until now, I didn't know how to describe this 
type of defect that sometimes can't be framed out nor described in words - (I 
generally use photos and attach them to sellers who send me posters with such 
defects).

Thank you also for clarifying the rippling issue as well as its true 
relationship to reverse rolling vs. tube diameter. I just couldn't see how 
anyone can hand-roll 27 x 40 paper - BACK INTO a one-inch wide plastic sleeve 
without tools - or a helluva lot of practice. It would be impossible for me 
without causing damage.

Finally, Dale - if anyone can find a way to get a pristine R rated Once Upon A 
Time in Hollywood poster, it would be you. (If you can't - then I'm thinking 
almost no one else can, especially not now, four months after release.  But 
I've bought a few new titles from you over the years as gifts and they always 
arrive PRISTINE.

If you can find this in comparable condition to what you ship out, I'll pay way 
more now. What's the point of buying this title with the R rating - (avg. price 
so far has ranged from $68 to $129 with shipping) - when they arrive replete 
with these glaring defects?  I'm hoping the R-versions are still out there - 
but most sellers only have the USA unrated or international COMING SOON 
posters, for the reasons you describe.  Thank you again!

*resigned*
David


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Dale Dilts 

Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS 
with R Rating. (NM to M)


Few quick hit notes:



Tubes from the studios come with no packing, 90% will be damaged when sent solo 
as they free float.  Places that get larger quantity shipped in boxes, it is 
VERY common to have impact marks on the edges, these look like spider web type 
creases on the edges. It doesn’t break the color, and you have to be in the 
right light to see them, but extremely common as UPS and FEDEX slam the boxes 
around.



Your ripple you are seeing, is not from rolling too tight, it is from reverse 
rolling poster and not doing it gently.



The  2” tube has nothing to do with condition issues. I ship almost everything 
in 2” and have about a 1% damage rate and that is a crushed tube. There is no 
reason any  type of damage should happen based on the tube diameter.



Now why is the R rating so hard to find.  Other than Paramount, if the poster 
image doesn’t change and the theaters don’t specifically request the rated ones 
be sent, they do not autoship the rated ones out probably 50% of the time these 
days.  WB with Joker is a good example recently, there is a large credit block 
final and a small credit block final. Many places never got the large credit 
block final shipped to them.  On the poster you are trying to hunt down, my 
folks never received the rated one, only the film not rated style.







From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of David 
Kusumoto
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 9:04 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS 
with R Rating. (NM to M)



Help!



VERY BAD LUCK buying many DS copies with the "true" final USA R-rating printed 
in the lower left corner.  Only one so far (since July) - has passed condition 
tests for gift quality.  All were listed "new" by sellers and looked great in 
photos - but arrived with horizontal rippling - or - creasing / bends at the 
top or bottom edges.  Others were replete with dimples down the center from top 
to bottom - or - "scuff-type" wear along the vertical edges - way beyond the 
"few minor dings" that are OK and common w/even "pristine" posters.



Any thoughts?  I think the rippling is caused by tight hand-rolling - to fit 
into 2 inch (or smaller!) diameter sleeves and tubes - (see reference photos 
below - the posters always look good at first but more probing reveals what I'm 
talking about).



I never get this from pro dealers using three-inch diameter tubes - but it's 
coming up a lot with amateur sellers.



Someone please set me straight.  I think these new-release posters are machine 
rolled into tubes for theaters - but after re-sellers take them out to take 
photos - they don't know how to re-roll large format paper - by hand - and in a 
straight line - causing them to make too many hand-adjustments to get them to 
fit back into these narrow tubes.  When I bring it up

[MOPO] Filip: WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

[David Kusumoto]

Hi filip,

You are SO CORRECT.  The problem of course is very few professional dealers 
sell new release posters for GOOD REASON.  Demand for new titles peak at 
release and few still buy them after three months.

For every 2003 "Lost in Translation" DS one-sheet that remains desirable - (I 
sold a DS banner for more than $1K through eMoviePoster a few years ago) - 
there are thousands "It - Chapter Two" one-sheets people no longer want.

Hence the reason for my humiliating "begging at MoPo."  (Still no solution.)  
Your You Tube video idea is good, but when I pass along detailed instructions 
about packing, many sellers get offended.

I posted this image before, but it still lingers in my mind - remember this?  I 
got it from an amateur seller who shipped it in a triangle tube. Ridiculous!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6809/5ZHgUc.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6809/5ZHgUc.jpg]




From: MoPo List  on behalf of filip de volder 

Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:28 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS 
with R Rating. (NM to M)


Hi David ,

if  this happens all the time then you should keep away from amateur sellers , 
even if their prices are very interesting ,  if you know upfront that you’ll 
probably have a problem  it doesn’t seem worth the trouble .



maybe  do a small video on how  rolled posters are to be packed , put it on 
YouTube and when you buy  a poster from someone  who may seem an amateur send 
him the YouTube link . ( it’s actually the same work doing a good or a bad 
packing job )



i have sold + 700 rolled concert posters over the last months , the 
shipping/packing  costs are 30% higher then sending a rolled poster



for those having nightmares every time they get a rolled poster order in i 
would recommend to STOP BUYING rolled posters  .   if an extended vacation 
comes to  say 2000$ ( ok , for some this is  a cheap weekend trip), that makes 
2000 rolled posters bought and recieved in damaged condition  ,  a donkey 
doesn’t hit the same rock twice   so …



filip



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From: MoPo List  on behalf of Helmut Hamm 

Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 11:40:25 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS 
OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

David,

for me, rolled posters are a recurring nightmare. If I would get a dollar for 
every rolled poster I bought that was damaged in transit, I could go on an 
extended vacation.

Among the WORST are those amateur sellers who insist to ship a folded poster in 
a tube only because it has been laying flat for a while. Once a poster has been 
folded, the damage is done and there is NO additional harm from folding it 
again.

As a seller, shipping rolled posters safely takes a lot of time and more 
expensive packing materials. Compared to folded posters, the shipping costs are 
ridiculous. Depending on location, shipping a rolled poster costs be between 
four and eight times the money of sending out the same poster folded.

Plus, I had DHL Germany/ USPS totally crash to rolled poster packages this 
year. Both were extremely well packed, double-boxed, and they looked like they 
had been thrown under a truck. I'm still waiting for the insurance to cough up 
and at this point, I very  much doubt it will ever happen.

If only I could get away with it, I would have no problem to fold every single 
rolled poster I have in stock. I know I can't do that, but still…

Alas, time to start packing another rolled poster order that just came in… :-(

Cheers,

Helmut

Am 05.12.2019 um 04:03 schrieb David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>:

Help!

VERY BAD LUCK buying many DS copies with the "true" final USA R-rating printed 
in the lower left corner.  Only one so far (since July) - has passed condition 
tests for gift quality.  All were listed "new" by sellers and looked great in 
photos - but arrived with horizontal rippling - or - creasing / bends at the 
top or bottom edges.  Others were replete with dimples down the center from top 
to bottom - or - "scuff-type" wear along the vertical edges - way beyond the 
"few minor dings" that are OK and common w/even "pristine" posters.

Any thoughts?  I think the rippling is caused by tight hand-rolling - to fit 
into 2 inch (or smaller!) diameter sleeves and tubes - (see reference photos 
below - the posters always look good at first but more probing reveals what I'm 
talking about).

I

[MOPO] Helmut: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

[David Kusumoto]

Helmut - Man oh man, I agree.  I hate shipping and receiving rolled posters as 
I generally don't collect them as they ARE a hassle to ship - and - MORE PRONE 
to damage. The exception is when I do ship, I always use recycled Yazoo tubes 
and plastic, e.g., the Hershenson method also used by Heritage. (Remember when 
shipping by auction houses other than from these two used to cost more than 
$100?  I wonder if they still do.)

BTW, I still remember purposely buying that CAMEL Lawrence of Arabia WC on foam 
core from you many years ago. What a beauty and it turned out great after Carol 
Tincup used a method to remove it and restore and flatten without backing nor 
painting.  That was a great buy!  Thanks again! (Same image as the pre-awards 
one-sheet.)

David


From: Helmut Hamm 
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 2:40 AM
To: David Kusumoto 
Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS 
OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

David,

for me, rolled posters are a recurring nightmare. If I would get a dollar for 
every rolled poster I bought that was damaged in transit, I could go on an 
extended vacation.

Among the WORST are those amateur sellers who insist to ship a folded poster in 
a tube only because it has been laying flat for a while. Once a poster has been 
folded, the damage is done and there is NO additional harm from folding it 
again.

As a seller, shipping rolled posters safely takes a lot of time and more 
expensive packing materials. Compared to folded posters, the shipping costs are 
ridiculous. Depending on location, shipping a rolled poster costs be between 
four and eight times the money of sending out the same poster folded.

Plus, I had DHL Germany/ USPS totally crash to rolled poster packages this 
year. Both were extremely well packed, double-boxed, and they looked like they 
had been thrown under a truck. I'm still waiting for the insurance to cough up 
and at this point, I very  much doubt it will ever happen.

If only I could get away with it, I would have no problem to fold every single 
rolled poster I have in stock. I know I can't do that, but still…

Alas, time to start packing another rolled poster order that just came in… :-(

Cheers,

Helmut
Am 05.12.2019 um 04:03 schrieb David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>:

Help!

VERY BAD LUCK buying many DS copies with the "true" final USA R-rating printed 
in the lower left corner.  Only one so far (since July) - has passed condition 
tests for gift quality.  All were listed "new" by sellers and looked great in 
photos - but arrived with horizontal rippling - or - creasing / bends at the 
top or bottom edges.  Others were replete with dimples down the center from top 
to bottom - or - "scuff-type" wear along the vertical edges - way beyond the 
"few minor dings" that are OK and common w/even "pristine" posters.

Any thoughts?  I think the rippling is caused by tight hand-rolling - to fit 
into 2 inch (or smaller!) diameter sleeves and tubes - (see reference photos 
below - the posters always look good at first but more probing reveals what I'm 
talking about).

I never get this from pro dealers using three-inch diameter tubes - but it's 
coming up a lot with amateur sellers.

Someone please set me straight.  I think these new-release posters are machine 
rolled into tubes for theaters - but after re-sellers take them out to take 
photos - they don't know how to re-roll large format paper - by hand - and in a 
straight line - causing them to make too many hand-adjustments to get them to 
fit back into these narrow tubes.  When I bring it up, they say, "it was mint 
when shipped."  They're not aware of what happens when they use narrow sleeves 
or tubes.

Other posters have shown up w/small, but hard crease edge wear along the 
vertical sides (vs. normal dings).

Of course I get that perfection is impossible - I just don't want to be 
embarrassed gifting LESS than "near mint" / near pristine posters for RECENT 
titles.  If you have ideas or can help - please message me with price and 
condition. Thank you! (See photos below.)

David

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8326/307NyQ.jpg]

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6903/8p5E46.jpg]

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4617/CSHbrW.jpg]

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6374/um9qeS.jpg]

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2143/7ElGAV.jpg]

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Re: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

[David Kusumoto]

Hi Tom -

Very few at eBay use Yazoo tubes nor do they understand why rolled posters need 
to "relax" in wider tubes.  I decided to go to MoPo for help because some know 
how to procure new titles.  I've just been frustrated with amateurs selling 
this title using photos that look good - or stock photos.

There are MANY, MANY double-sided "COMING SOON" international - and - "this 
film has not yet been rated" "JULY" USA one-sheets of "Once Upon A Time in 
Hollywood."  There's even a dealer in Canada who's already sold more than 200 
of both types of DS one-sheets since early spring - but he doesn't have the USA 
"R" version.

I'm just hoping someone here in the USA has the R version - and given my 
frustration, I'm now willing to pay more for near mint from a professional 
dealer.  Gift quality; have one in the queue, looking for another.

No doubt most are in super condition when they're being photographed - but they 
don't look the same when they arrive.  One guy put the poster into a tube - and 
put that into a 3-inch wide tube.  He had the right idea to reduce damage in 
transit - but it arrived rippled anyway because he re-rolled large format paper 
into the first tube that was only 2-inches wide.  As far as he knew, the poster 
wasn't damaged by tight rolling.  Can't win.

I usually don't come to MoPo to beg but at least people know what I'm looking 
for, that I'm good about paying - and that this nonsense has been going on 
since July - and Christmas is just around the corner.

David


From: dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:29 PM
To: David Kusumoto
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS 
OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

Hi  David I have the poly 2 inch poster tube material.. as i invented a rolling 
Machine when i did big runs of posters in the 80s 90s//I stll have the sleeve 
and even 2 inch tubes.. i made the machine with a metal piope with a slot in 
it,,attached to a electric mototor,, when you depressed the foot pedla it 
rolled tight..then you would put the sleevv over it and relesse the poster 
inside the tubbing,,,and remove..I did 1000s that way...the tubbing comes on 
large rolls in all widths...and i would cut off and tuck inside.  Yazoo makes a 
2 inch tube mailing Tube,,,from Yazoo mils in Pa..i have them if you need one..

Hollywood Dream Factory® Tom 419-474-3065


From: David Kusumoto 
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:03 PM
To: MoPo List 
Subject: WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R 
Rating. (NM to M)

Help!

VERY BAD LUCK buying many DS copies with the "true" final USA R-rating printed 
in the lower left corner.  Only one so far (since July) - has passed condition 
tests for gift quality.  All were listed "new" by sellers and looked great in 
photos - but arrived with horizontal rippling - or - creasing / bends at the 
top or bottom edges.  Others were replete with dimples down the center from top 
to bottom - or - "scuff-type" wear along the vertical edges - way beyond the 
"few minor dings" that are OK and common w/even "pristine" posters.

Any thoughts?  I think the rippling is caused by tight hand-rolling - to fit 
into 2 inch (or smaller!) diameter sleeves and tubes - (see reference photos 
below - the posters always look good at first but more probing reveals what I'm 
talking about).

I never get this from pro dealers using three-inch diameter tubes - but it's 
coming up a lot with amateur sellers.

Someone please set me straight.  I think these new-release posters are machine 
rolled into tubes for theaters - but after re-sellers take them out to take 
photos - they don't know how to re-roll large format paper - by hand - and in a 
straight line - causing them to make too many hand-adjustments to get them to 
fit back into these narrow tubes.  When I bring it up, they say, "it was mint 
when shipped."  They're not aware of what happens when they use narrow sleeves 
or tubes.

Other posters have shown up w/small, but hard crease edge wear along the 
vertical sides (vs. normal dings).

Of course I get that perfection is impossible - I just don't want to be 
embarrassed gifting LESS than "near mint" / near pristine posters for RECENT 
titles.  If you have ideas or can help - please message me with price and 
condition. Thank you! (See photos below.)

David

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8326/307NyQ.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8326/307NyQ.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6903/8p5E46.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6903/8p5E46.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4617/CSHbrW.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6374/um9qeS.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6374/u

[MOPO] WTB - (VERY BAD LUCK!) - Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - DS OS with R Rating. (NM to M)

[David Kusumoto]

Help!

VERY BAD LUCK buying many DS copies with the "true" final USA R-rating printed 
in the lower left corner.  Only one so far (since July) - has passed condition 
tests for gift quality.  All were listed "new" by sellers and looked great in 
photos - but arrived with horizontal rippling - or - creasing / bends at the 
top or bottom edges.  Others were replete with dimples down the center from top 
to bottom - or - "scuff-type" wear along the vertical edges - way beyond the 
"few minor dings" that are OK and common w/even "pristine" posters.

Any thoughts?  I think the rippling is caused by tight hand-rolling - to fit 
into 2 inch (or smaller!) diameter sleeves and tubes - (see reference photos 
below - the posters always look good at first but more probing reveals what I'm 
talking about).

I never get this from pro dealers using three-inch diameter tubes - but it's 
coming up a lot with amateur sellers.

Someone please set me straight.  I think these new-release posters are machine 
rolled into tubes for theaters - but after re-sellers take them out to take 
photos - they don't know how to re-roll large format paper - by hand - and in a 
straight line - causing them to make too many hand-adjustments to get them to 
fit back into these narrow tubes.  When I bring it up, they say, "it was mint 
when shipped."  They're not aware of what happens when they use narrow sleeves 
or tubes.

Other posters have shown up w/small, but hard crease edge wear along the 
vertical sides (vs. normal dings).

Of course I get that perfection is impossible - I just don't want to be 
embarrassed gifting LESS than "near mint" / near pristine posters for RECENT 
titles.  If you have ideas or can help - please message me with price and 
condition. Thank you! (See photos below.)

David

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8326/307NyQ.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8326/307NyQ.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6903/8p5E46.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6903/8p5E46.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4617/CSHbrW.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4617/CSHbrW.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6374/um9qeS.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6374/um9qeS.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2143/7ElGAV.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2143/7ElGAV.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8076/FzvCVE.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8076/FzvCVE.jpg]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4572/zKlwSw.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4572/zKlwSw.jpg]

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[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/5481/wI4Ovk.jpg]

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[MOPO] Dave - Update with further info - Need help testing links

[David Kusumoto]

Earlier I reported:

"Links 1 and 2 don't work for me on my phone, but link 3 works fine."  I have 
an Android 9 phone, not an iPhone.

But ALL THREE (3) links work FINE - on my desktop computer - via BOTH Chrome 
AND Firefox browsers.

So there is some issue that renders Links 1 and 2 "dead" on my Android 
operating system - but NO problem accessing those links on desktop Chrome and 
Firefox browsers.  On a desktop - there is no re-direct message from eBay via 
either browser - that it can't find what I'm looking for.

-d.





David Kusumoto Communications / Journalist / Writer / Public Relations Executive
http://www.linkedin.com/in/prtoday


From: MoPo List  on behalf of David Kusumoto 

Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:57 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: Need help testing links

Links 1 and 2 don't work for me on my phone, but link 3 works fine.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Posteropolis 

Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 7:14:35 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Need help testing links


Hi, folks:



I recently posted some links to my eBay listings on Facebook and some people 
said the links did not work, while others had no problem.



I’m trying to puzzle out what the issue might be and whether my listings can be 
seen or not depending on how people browse eBay.



If you have a minute, could you try each of these links and let me know which 
ones did or did not work? I’d really appreciate it.



Link #1 (my Halloween-themed listings):

https://www.ebay.com/dsc/m.html?_ssn=posteropolis&_armrs=1&_from=R40&_sacat=0_TitleDesc=1&_nkw=halloween&_trksid=m570.l1313&_odkw=&_osacat=0<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fdsc%2Fm.html%3F_ssn%3Dposteropolis%26_armrs%3D1%26_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26LH_TitleDesc%3D1%26_nkw%3Dhalloween%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_odkw%3D%26_osacat%3D0=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf3e8206e855408a787b08d75e3c869d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637081486350521319=drzU20kosGaaZgmC0Kd4IjJdwbGqY2oeH%2BP1Tfcv%2BM8%3D=0>



Link #2 (shortened version of above):

https://ebay.to/2JsImT7<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Febay.to%2F2JsImT7=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf3e8206e855408a787b08d75e3c869d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637081486350521319=cfKZzBjMMk0mlsKS%2FdJtTKF5%2F%2BQN19gtXZsQTrRltLc%3D=0>



Link #3: (my eBay store):

https://www.ebay.com/str/posteropolis<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fstr%2Fposteropolis=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf3e8206e855408a787b08d75e3c869d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637081486350531333=DHg7FFARaDgHg%2FkD9BcSVTBQUsBghoxMOeWI3ym2Ukg%3D=0>



Thanks again for helping me out!



Dave





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