Re: [mythtv-users] xbox Mythtv twinhan or Haupage remote?

2005-02-16 Thread Aran
I assume you are using the xbox dvd kit and the supplied IR receiver
that sticks into a controller port?  I think you might be able to use
other remotes that use the same kind of codes... RC5 maybe?  You should
look around the xbox wiki's (both old and new) for more info on that.

Another possibility is to use another USB IR receiver connected via an
XBOX/usb cable.  (I think they sell lirc compatible USB IR receivers,
but I don't have a link for you.)  The IR receiver you would probably
need to purchase, the cable you can make quite easily.

The other option is to live with the xbox remote.  It isn't overflowing
with buttons but I find it pretty serviceable.  I wish it had a power
button though... I would like to be able to shut it off without backing
out to the shutdown menu. 

On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 12:26 -0700, Greg Miller wrote:
 Hi, I am running an xbox front end and would prefer a different
 remote. Can I just change one of the lirc files with one that is for
 the other remote?
  
 Has anyone else done this? 
  
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:57:34PM -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:43 +0100, Robert Krig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
  name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
  mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
 
 Here's a big one:  I use Comcast for my internet service and they only
 allow a very limited amount of news activity per month and even for
 that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a
 username/password to access their news server.  Now I know that I

Nobody is suggesting the mailing list would go away, if you have trouble
getting your USENET feed.

Anyway, as to the downsides, there are a few, but the upsides are many.
One reason people use mailing lists is they can control who is on the
list (ie. who reads it.)  Not an issue here.

By default newsgroups let anybody post, including spammers, and that's
the only downside people have to them.  You can make robot-moderated
newsgroups however that limit posters the same way mailing lists do.

If your USENET server is far away and slow, E-mail will be faster for
you.

One can also do a newsgroup that people can read, but one must still use
e-mail to post.  More of a pain to post to, but otherwise the best of
both.

Otherwise, newsreaders (especially when local as they should be) are
fast and much more tailored to large threaded discussions, with many more
threading features than typical mailers, killfiles etc.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:39:09PM -0600, M S wrote:
 the show... I would say this show right now this is taking up 70% of
 my storage alone.  Also, every now and then I'll see a single program


It's curious how our standards change.  Today you can pick up disk
drives amazingly cheap -- 160gb for $50 shows up every so often at
Fry's/Outpost with rebate.You can get better than VHS quality
in about 1gb/hour, so you can store 2 hours for 63 cents, online instead
of offline.

We used to spend a fair bit more than that (especially in today's dollars)
for a 2 hour videotape, and we thought it not a bad deal!

Sure, DVD-R is cheaper -- instead of 30 cents/gigabyte it's  as low as 6
cents/GB, and also going to get cheaper, but it's offline instead of
online (though not drawing power etc.)

But it makes you realize that optical archiving is not as exciting as
it once was.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cannot delete non-recorded/empty programs on 0.17

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 12:20:01AM -0500, Chris Pinkham wrote:
  It sounds to me like the easiest way to make the current behavior
  match the old behavior for recording-failed HDTV (from an interface
  point of view) would be to have it write a 0 byte file if the reception
  check fails. In 0.16, nothing would display, but the recording would be
  deletable and cancellable, which is at least functional.
 
 Ideally, the recording should not even show up, so if there is a problem
 recording, then it should be as if the recording never started.  There
 should be nothing in the database to clean up.

Again, I feel that is very far from ideal.  It is never good
software engineering to have a system fail invisibly.  (And for most
users, an item in the log file is invisibly.)

Should one code it this way, I suspect we'll get frequent emails on
the lists about how somebody scheduled a recording but there's nothing
there.

The empty file isn't great -- the best thing would be a diagnostic
message or video when you try to play the missing file.

Actually, if I were looking for the ideal, it would also keep trying to
record over the entire period, in case the problem is temporary.

The Tivo, for example, leaves an entire hour of We are unable to get
a signal on this channel video on the disk.   Sometimes, however, you
fast forward it and you get to where the signal resumed and there is
your show.   It's not good to abort an entire recording just becuase there
was a temporary outage at the start.   Tivo is going overboard recording
CBR video for the whole length, clearly one can do better than that,
but you get the idea.



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Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Blammo wrote:
 [bold]
 MythTV lets you choose any form of deinterlacing you want. XvMC or not.
 
 However, chosing anything OTHER than BOB will make your life a living
 hell. BOB seems to be about the only deinterlacer smart enough not to
 go ape on progressive sourced data.
 [/bold]

Wow.  I had just assumed that the player knew to not use any deinterlace
filter on a non-interlaced video!   Can you confirm this?  Is there
some reason it would want to use the interlace filter on progressive video?

I haven't been using bob because of the annoying bobbing on overlayed
graphics, logos etc.  Too distracting.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Question about multiplexing inputs and HDTV connection recommendation

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 06:42:02AM +, Kevin Pratt wrote:
 And the second dilemma:  How to connect to the display?
 The screen we have is a Pionneer PDP-4340HD, which has VGA, Component 
 (Y-Pb-Pr), S-video, and composite inputs.  I was originally planning DVI 
 connection, but since that doesn't exist, that's out (the connection 
 between the media box and the screen is DVI+HDMI, but no DVI inputs to the 
 system). Right now I'm leaning towards VGA, based on the theory that you 
 should connect PC components with VGA, and HT with component and and don't 
 try to cross into foreign territory if possible, and additionally, a VGA 
 cable is probably cheaper that a Component converter.  The manual says it 
 will accept up to 1280x768 @ 70Hz which I'm assuming will give me a pretty 
 good HD picture.

VGA _is_ a component video.   However, it is RGB component video with the
sync signals in external wires as well.   Since your computer frame buffer
is RGB and your TV's probably is as well, it's a good way to go.

The thing HDTVs call component video is a different type of component
video.  It's called YPbPr, and it uses a different colourspace.  In
some ways a better one -- _if_ you were drawing from a source that wasn't
already RGB.   The sync signals are loaded into the Y (lunimance) cable,
the Yb and Yr contain 2-axis chroma.

Both are going to do you fine, though.

For some bizarre reason, many TVs with VGA won't do 1080 over it, though
VGA is fully capable of that.   Mine won't, but will over its RGBHV
5-plug component inputs, go figure.   RHBHV is effectively VGA.
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Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-16 Thread Isaac Richards
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:23 am, Brad Templeton wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Blammo wrote:
  [bold]
  MythTV lets you choose any form of deinterlacing you want. XvMC or not.
 
  However, chosing anything OTHER than BOB will make your life a living
  hell. BOB seems to be about the only deinterlacer smart enough not to
  go ape on progressive sourced data.
  [/bold]

 Wow.  I had just assumed that the player knew to not use any deinterlace
 filter on a non-interlaced video!   Can you confirm this?  Is there
 some reason it would want to use the interlace filter on progressive video?

 I haven't been using bob because of the annoying bobbing on overlayed
 graphics, logos etc.  Too distracting.

Deinterlacing should be automatically disabled on content it knows to be 
progressive (720p, 480p).

Isaac
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Andrei Emeltchenko
Hello,
I agree that newsgroup is much better. I just have subscribed and got
more then 100 mails in one day. Too much.
Please let us know about newsgroup address.
Regards,
Andrei
Robert Krig wrote:
Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
I have been thinking about this as well. It seems to me that the best
place for mythtv discussion would be via usenet. I cant really think of
any disadvantages of communicating via newsgroup. Perhaps someone could
name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
By the way, one of you mentioned that gmail has a comfortable way of
handling mailing lists. Can anyone recommend a linux mail reader which
handles mailing lists well?
 


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Re: [mythtv-users] thac's mandrake 10.1 rpms for 0.17 are out

2005-02-16 Thread Adam Prentice
I just tried urpmi mythtv-suite after adding thac's rpm'sbut for some
reason it says libmythv isn't available I had no problem with
0.16...everything installed.   Am I missing something ?


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Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] thac's mandrake 10.1 rpms for 0.17 are out


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 I just noticed that it looks like thac's
 mandrake rpms for 0.17 are out
 
 http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Feature Request: Shoutcast streams and Apple trailers like on Xbox Media center.

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman




Wow, it can play BBC Radio? Awesome :D

(I see BBC7 and BBC Radio 1 listed in one of the screen shots)

Max.

  Here you go: 
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html



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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman
Robert Krig wrote:
Can anyone recommend a linux mail reader which handles mailing lists well?
Actually, Thunderbird isn't half bad.
I wish it had a 'watch thread' function, as it does with news groups.
Max.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cannot delete non-recorded/empty programs on 0.17

2005-02-16 Thread Maverick
 was a temporary outage at the start.   Tivo is going overboard recording
 CBR video for the whole length, clearly one can do better than that,
 but you get the idea.

Sometimes there's just something to be said about simplicity, and
recording 'nothing' until the signal returns is not such a bad idea,
especially if the user turns on an option to do that.. I would be
alittle disappointed if my whole (insert program here) recording was
missed because it was disconnected when it was starting to record... I
kinda like the Tivo idea myself, provides user feedback as well as
'the least data lost' approach.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman




Brad Templeton wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:57:34PM -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
  
  
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:43 +0100, Robert Krig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
  

Here's a big one:  I use Comcast for my internet service and they only
allow a very limited amount of news activity per month and even for
that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a
username/password to access their news server.  Now I know that I

  
  
Nobody is suggesting the mailing list would go away, if you have trouble
getting your USENET feed.

Indeed. Actually, there isn't any technological reason why you can't
have all three (email, news, and forum).

It seems easy enough to get a news group together using gmane, if it
can be shown not to have significant amounts of spam.

However, I haven't seen a place that will mirror an email list in a
forum - for free, that is. On the other hand, I do think the
gossamer-thread archive is the best one I've seen
(http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/) - yes, perhaps I
haven't seen it *enough* :|

Max.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Maverick
 Sure, DVD-R is cheaper -- instead of 30 cents/gigabyte it's  as low as 6
 cents/GB, and also going to get cheaper, but it's offline instead of
 online (though not drawing power etc.)
 
 But it makes you realize that optical archiving is not as exciting as
 it once was.

Ahh, portability vs. instant online access. The age old optical vs.
magnetic debate! ;) Very true though, I remember paying $250 for a
500MB hard drive back in the day, and that was an awesome sale price +
rebates. I of course said I'd never fill that drive up, because I was
going from a 20mb drive to 500... Yeah, even at slow modem speeds...
HAHA Boy was I wrong.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] The death of MythDVD? [RipGuard]

2005-02-16 Thread Maverick
Yeah, and a few years ago Sony was going to stop the computer world
from listening to audio CD's. Until the world discovered black
magic...markers.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-917908.html

Sharpies: Not just good for sniffing, but for cracking anti-piracy too!

-Kenneth

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:54:48 -0700, Blammo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dvd15feb15,0,823039.story?coll=la-home-business
 
 Quote:
 Macrovision plans to unveil technology to block 97% of software used
 to duplicate discs.
 
 The RipGuard technology would defeat the most popular of the ripping
 programs, Macrovision's Gervin said, by tinkering with the format of
 DVDs to make it impossible to extract data quickly from the discs. The
 technique confounds ripping programs without damaging computers,
 preventing the discs from playing or reducing picture quality, he
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Re: [mythtv-users] Feature Request: Shoutcast streams and Apple trailers like on Xbox Media center.

2005-02-16 Thread Jesper Rasmussen
would it be possible to collect the links to the unofficial addons, on 
mythtv.org?

Max Waterman wrote:
Wow, it can play BBC Radio? Awesome :D
(I see BBC7 and BBC Radio 1 listed in one of the screen shots)
Max.
Here you go: 
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html


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Re: [mythtv-users] Custom Job Queues from mythfrontend

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Benson
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:02:49 -0500 (EST), Chris Pinkham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris Pinkham wrote:
 
  I know that custom jobs can be setup to run after a recording finishes,
  but is it possible to access them from mythfrontend using the 'Job
  Options' menu option. Currently only 'Begin Transcoding' and 'Begin
  Commercial Flagging' are present.
  
  Not currently.
  
  Maybe someday.. Seems to me would me useful to call things like the
  example myth_archive.pl script or nuvexport...
 
 Yeah, we just didn't get around to it and the menu items were added before
 the popup menu was rearranged a little, so it was getting kinda full.  Now
 that there is a separate submenu for JobQueue jobs, it is fairly easy to
 add without cluttering up the menu.  There might only be Start buttons
 though, since the jobqueue wouldn't know how to stop an external application
 unless it was written to check the jobqueue table for the stop message.
 
 Patches are welcome, otherwise you'll have to wait till someone else
 scratches that itch. :)  I put it on my TODO but it's low on my priority list.
 
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While I don't currently have any User Jobs set up, I've been wanting
to dive into the myth code a little bit and this seems like a fairly
trivial task and hence, a good starting place for me.  I pulled the
latest cvs last night and I believe I have this working correctly.  I
need to do some more testing on it and create a patch, but as soon as
that's done I'll post the patch.

As it stands right now User Jobs will show up in the 'Job Options'
menu if there is a command specified for that job (i.e., if you only
specified a command for User Job 1 then User Job 1 will be in the
menu, but 2, 3 and 4 will not).  The menu options for User Jobs pretty
much duplicate the Transcoding and Commercial Flagging menus in that
if the job is already schedule the menu item will allow you to stop
it, if not you can start the job from the menu.

As Chris pointed out in his previous message, external programs won't
be able to stop unless they're written to check the job queue table
for the stop message, but I figured it's better to have it in there
for now since folks could very well write apps to check for that.

Brad
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[mythtv-users] Re: Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Brad
I absolutely agree with Matt that this is a feature desperately 
lacking in MythTV. I know its been brought up many times here, so 
obviously others thinks so too. I think the main reason that it 
hasn't been implemented is that the people with the skill needed to 
do so, think nothing of burning dvds from the command line (or 
installing 1Tb of online storage) -- while the people that need/want 
it are still struggling to understand the remote control.

Anyway, don't be too hard on Matt - he's a user making a suggestion. 
Surely there is some value in that. I'm pretty sick of reading Well, 
then code it every time someone makes a reasonable suggestion for 
improving Myth. Besides, he preceded his message with the obligatory 
heaping-of-praise-upon-the-geeks, so I don't think he meant any harm. 
;=)

PS: I can't code it either.  :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] ATI 9100 Pro IGP with onboard sound

2005-02-16 Thread Berend van Wachem
Hi Kevin,
Yes I have this motherboard in my Pundit-r. I am not sure if it's 
exactly the same sound hardware as you have. My lspci gives me for the sound

Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc SoundMAX Integrated Di 
 gital Audio

I had no problem getting this to work. I use Slackware 10.0/10.1 with 
the 2.6.10 kernel. I compiled the kernel with Alsa/atiixp and the just 
ran alsaconf. It recongnized the driver directly and it seems to work OK.

Not great - sometimes mplayer complains that the audio driver is broken. 
But is works good in mythtv with alsa support compiled in.

What do you mean, no sound card is recongnized?
Regards,
Berend.
Has anyone built a frontend using a motherboard based off this chipset?  
ALSA recognizes the sound card as an ATIIXP and while the drivers seem 
to load, no soundcard is recognized.  Just curious if anyone has this 
working and might have a pointer.

Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:03:54 -0800, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I absolutely agree with Matt that this is a feature desperately
 lacking in MythTV. I know its been brought up many times here, so
 obviously others thinks so too. I think the main reason that it
 hasn't been implemented is that the people with the skill needed to
 do so, think nothing of burning dvds from the command line (or
 installing 1Tb of online storage) -- while the people that need/want
 it are still struggling to understand the remote control.

Actually most of the devs don't archive anything last I heard.  I've
actually started to work on such a feature simply to satisfy the
requests for it, but since *I* don't really need it it's been low on
my priority list.

 

 Surely there is some value in that. I'm pretty sick of reading Well,
 then code it every time someone makes a reasonable suggestion for
 improving Myth. Besides, he preceded his message with the obligatory
 heaping-of-praise-upon-the-geeks, so I don't think he meant any harm.

If you're sick of hearing it, then perhaps you need to stick to
commercial software since that's going to be the typical response. 
All development in Myth is driven by the needs of the developers, if a
developer wants a feeature bad enough they'll implement it, if they
don't they will not.

Certainly he didn't mean any harm, but you'll note that the only
solution offered was for someone else to implement the feature he
cared about the most, for free.  While he was as blunt as that, that's
what it boils down to.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Post recording transcoding and HDTV

2005-02-16 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:12:32 -0800, Todd Tidwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there anyway I could setup a custom job or is there some work around for
 this so that I could transcode the files down to something more manageable? 

Try current CVS (or wait till .18), this was just implemented within
the past day or so.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Benson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:03:54 -0800, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I absolutely agree with Matt that this is a feature desperately
 lacking in MythTV. I know its been brought up many times here, so
 obviously others thinks so too. I think the main reason that it
 hasn't been implemented is that the people with the skill needed to
 do so, think nothing of burning dvds from the command line (or
 installing 1Tb of online storage) -- while the people that need/want
 it are still struggling to understand the remote control.
 
 Anyway, don't be too hard on Matt - he's a user making a suggestion.
 Surely there is some value in that. I'm pretty sick of reading Well,
 then code it every time someone makes a reasonable suggestion for
 improving Myth. Besides, he preceded his message with the obligatory
 heaping-of-praise-upon-the-geeks, so I don't think he meant any harm.
 ;=)
 
 PS: I can't code it either.  :-)
 
 
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Yes, there is value in users making suggestions.  The thing to
remember is how you make those suggestions.  I think the reason Matt
got so many harsh responses is the way he worded his post. 
Specifically this part:

(Sure, people can say run this command line, then do this, then
that... then burn.  NO!  This should be an automated procedure with
ease and simplicity and no commands lines. ) which seems to imply that
he is well aware that there is a method to do what he wants to do, but
he's not willing to put in the effort to do it until someone else puts
in lots more effort to make it easy for him.

You may notice that when feature requests/suggestions are made
politely they are most often greeted with responses stating either why
that feature hasn't been added yet, that it's already being worked on
or why it's not a reasonable/feasible request.  When suggestions are
made in the fashion of I know it can be done now, but I refuse to
figure out how and want an easier way you tend to get responses like
then code it yourself.

Matt - I hope I'm not coming off as a complete jerk here, but when I
read your original post the tone I got from it was very whiney and
really rubbed me the wrong way, apparently despite your best
intentions. :)

Brad
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RE: [mythtv-users] MythTV Nuppel (.nuv) Patch for Current Version of MPLayer?

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Sean G wrote:
Cory,
I was mucking around with the same patch last month,
and found that it wasn't handling frametype T
correctly.
It would play one of my recordings correctly for a few
seconds, then die.  I turned on the debugging flags
and found that when it encountered a T frame, it would
not skip ahead to the next frame properly.
I patched demux_nuv.c, to skip over T frames, but then
came across mpeg4 decode issues.
Did you get further than this ?
P.S. I'm working with bt878 recorded and transcoded to
mp4 files
	I haven't had a chance to muck with it anymore than I discussed a 
week or so ago.  It would appear that the format of the .nuv file has 
changed a bit since the (rather old) patch was cooked up.  Just FYI I'm 
using PVR-250 captures, but transcoded to MP4 with commercials cut out. 
MPlayer seems to play them, but when skipping it says:
[mpeg4 @ 0x8625f20]warning: first frame is no keyframe

	... those skips are what it chokes on with the mencoder -ovc copy 
as well.

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Update on using epia m10000 for a frontend

2005-02-16 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:24, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 I run Linux too and I know about CVS. I was only curious  because you
 mentioned make world which is synonoumeous (how the heck do you spell
 this?) with *BSD.

more like with X11 than BSD
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Minh Duong wrote:
Does the FX5200 cards have mpeg2 hardware decoders?
nVidia's site isn't clear on this.  I think that some
of them might, but I think it's only on the mobile
versions.  Anybody got any info on this?
	No, but XvMC is a partial MPEG2 decoder.  It helps reduce CPU 
load when playing large MPEG2 (e.g. HDTV) streams.

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
threading support. I'm a 'power' Pine user myself, as I don't like to
touch the mouse when in an e.mail/usenet reading app,
*sniff*... I didn't think there were any of us left *sniff*
:)
-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] automated nuvexport

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
The programmer says:  soon.
Please keep in mind that to a programmer, soon means sometime in the next 
100 years.

In other words, I have so many projects that I have no idea how long it will 
take me to get everything I want to working.  nuvexport's commandline stuff 
is high on my priority list, though.

-Chris
	I was going to ask about this.  I don't know if you've folled the 
audio sync threads, but avidemux has issues with MPEG2 streams with 
errors/desyncs in them.  Does your MPEG2-MPEG2 phantom-X avidemux part of 
nuvexport try to deal with that?  The only way I've found successful is to 
wrap the MPEG2 as an avi (mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy).  After that, 
rebuild the B-frames in avideumux, cut, export.

	Just something to think about.  I know that 98% of the time, a 
strip of the m2v and m2a and a remux works, but every once in awhile some 
poor schlub (like myself) gets sync errors on a capture.  With that, using 
avidemux bare on the .mpg will get off sync after the glitch (it only does 
a static A/V offset for MPEG files... not dynamic).

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV on 0.17 - only records half the show

2005-02-16 Thread Doug Larrick
Eric Werness wrote:
After upgrading from 0.16 to 0.17, I can't record a full show in HDTV. I
have a pcHDTV 2000 on kernel 2.4.27
If I watch live TV or make a short recording, the video is fine for a
few seconds, then starts dropping out, even though the reception is fine
(getatsc produces a correct recording). Based on the file size and the
time reported in the info when viewing in Myth, the file for a recording
is exactly half as long as it should be.
If I increase the HDRingbufferSize to maximum, the period of the
recording that's correct increases, but the file still ends up half as
big as it should be. My hunch is that this issue is somehow related to
the apparent increase in btatsc: buffer overrun messages that I get in
/var/log/messages. With 0.16, I would get a few of these messages, but
not enough that I'd notice (no hard data). Now, I get hundreds while
doing a couple of minutes of recording.
I tried diffing hdtvrecorder.cpp between 0.16 and 0.17, but it looks
like the file was significantly rewritten between the two, so there's no
obvious help there.
Anyone else seeing this? Any suggestions?
Make sure your database is in good shape -- any messages from mysql in
your logs?  It sounds like you're having trouble getting enough data
from the card, which means it's busy doing something else.  If it's not
CPU-bound, it might be I/O bound, maybe due to an error in the database.
Otherwise: Upgrade to a 2.6 kernel?  Use the latest HD-2000 driver you can?
-Doug


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman
How can I install it?
I can't d/l the s/w from the web site below, and the rpms I can find 
seem to require downgrading many other packages...

Max.
Jesper Rasmussen wrote:
would it be possible to collect the links to the unofficial addons, on 
mythtv.org?

Max Waterman wrote:
Wow, it can play BBC Radio? Awesome :D
(I see BBC7 and BBC Radio 1 listed in one of the screen shots)
Max.
Here you go: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/16/2005 7:47:21 AM 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/16/2005 6:08:56 AM 
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Minh Duong wrote:


 Does the FX5200 cards have mpeg2 hardware decoders?
 nVidia's site isn't clear on this.  I think that some
 of them might, but I think it's only on the mobile
 versions.  Anybody got any info on this?

   No, but XvMC is a partial MPEG2 decoder.  It helps reduce CPU

load when playing large MPEG2 (e.g. HDTV) streams.

-Cory

Actually, the 5200 *does* have an mpeg-2 decoder on the card. 
This was confirmed by a couple users onthis list a few months ago.
Also, nVidia has stated that the FX series cards are equipped 
with mpeg-2 decoders.  I believe the drivers take advantage of 
that as well.

Paul

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I've spent literally years trying to get the g400 to look picture
perfect under framebuffer/X/matroxset and have never succeeded.  If you
know anything more, I would love to hear about it.
	TVout solutions are a wildcard with any card.  Most suck and are 
unknown as far as how they operate internally.

Do you have a modeline that sets a proper ntsc resolution and timing?
720/640x480 @ 59.9 cycles/s?
	Yes, but proper ntsc resolution is not 59.9 Hz... it's 29.97Hz, 
interlaced.  I use this:

ModeLine coryntsci 14.3 720 760 824 910 480 484 492 525 interlace
	... with a homebrew circuit to modulate RGB from the VGA at this 
proper frequency into NTSC Y/C and Composite.  It is *NOT* a rate/scanline
converter which is what almost all tvout cards use.  If you use that 
modeline on a VGA monitor, it won't like it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  What interlacing?  All I want
mythtv to do is record a signal (interlaced since it's standard NTSC)
and play it back exactly as it would have been sent to the TV directly;
so that means recorded interlaced and played back, interlaced.  Now that
may (or most likely) mean packing two interlaced fields into a frame,
but the video card should display the fields interlaced, one after the
other.
	Which it can, but unless you are using production-quality hardware 
with video genlocking, what you record will not be exactly synced with 
what you get out.

Any pointers on how to set configure all of this (the tv-out part for
the g400) because after many years of searching, I just have not been
able to find anything suitable.
	It's a lot more complicated than most people realize.  Everyone 
wants a standards compliant NTSC modeline for their XYZ-brand card. 
Trouble is the one common component in all of them (the tvout scanline 
converter chip) is the *ONLY* part that is responsible for generating 
standards-compliant output.  There's typically little or no control over 
that and any modeline tweakings are masked by its operation.

Get thee to google for g400 tvout setup.
-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Custom Job Queues from mythfrontend

2005-02-16 Thread Greg

While I don't currently have any User Jobs set up, I've been wanting
to dive into the myth code a little bit and this seems like a fairly
trivial task and hence, a good starting place for me.  I pulled the
latest cvs last night and I believe I have this working correctly.  I
need to do some more testing on it and create a patch, but as soon as
that's done I'll post the patch.
As it stands right now User Jobs will show up in the 'Job Options'
menu if there is a command specified for that job (i.e., if you only
specified a command for User Job 1 then User Job 1 will be in the
menu, but 2, 3 and 4 will not).  The menu options for User Jobs pretty
much duplicate the Transcoding and Commercial Flagging menus in that
if the job is already schedule the menu item will allow you to stop
it, if not you can start the job from the menu.
As Chris pointed out in his previous message, external programs won't
be able to stop unless they're written to check the job queue table
for the stop message, but I figured it's better to have it in there
for now since folks could very well write apps to check for that.
Brad
Thanks Brad...  The modifications you made will work fine for me as all 
I wanted was some way to easily start a custom job...

Greg
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[mythtv-users] Recordings from 0.17 require more CPU?

2005-02-16 Thread Mark J. Small

Hi everybody,

I just upgraded yesterday to 0.17 using the debian packages, and things seemed 
to go well until I sat down with my wife last night to watch some shows.  

My frontend is a nice and slow little Celeron 433 with a TNT2 being fed to a 
scan converter.  I record at 480w X 320H and a bit rate of 2500 (max 4500) 
with a pvr250 on a separate backend.  The stream type is DVD-Special 2.  I 
don't transcode.  I haven't changed these settings in several months.

Now I'm finding that the shows that I recorded before the upgrade still play 
fine without any hickups, but the shows that I recorded after the upgrade of 
little pauses several times a minute.  

It seems like the recordings made under 0.17 require more CPU to play back.

Does anyone know why this would be so?  Is there anything that I can do 
besides lower the bitrate some more?

Mark

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RE: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR-250 IR dongle

2005-02-16 Thread Ronald Kohsman
I found it to be a bad lirc.conffor the wrong remote. Try the
black/grey or the grey... Jarrod can help.

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

-r

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Burks
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:48 PM
To: Mythtv Users
Subject: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR-250 IR dongle

Hello list,

I recently had to send my older PVR-250 back to Hauppauge, and they
sent me a new one. The card I had was a Rev. 1 card (it is larger,
with a black heatsink on the iTVC15 chip). It came with the sorry
solid black remote.

The card Hauppauge sent back appears to be a newer, smaller card with
no heatsink, a iTVC16 chip instead, a Rev. 3 maybe?? They sent the
board only, no accessories.

I can't get the remote to work now. irw reports nothing when I press a
key. I'm using the lircd.conf file from Jarod's site. I popped in my
test WinXP drive, installed to newest drivers for the card, and no
remote in WinXP either. I even restarted lircd using my Radio Shack
remote conf (remote and conf same as Jarod's guide), and nothing there
either!

Are the IR dongles from older Hauppauge cards compatible with newer
cards? Don't some of the new dongle's have transmitters and receivers
(I think the PVR-150 does)?

Thoughts? Experiences?

Josh


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Re: [mythtv-users] UK - Controlling Sky boxes

2005-02-16 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 15/02/05 15:04, Simon Kenyon typed ...
i believe you are using my version of the software for the redremote
the Makefile documents the various timeouts
sorry if this caused you problems
  Yep, but don't apologise, it's my fault for not bothering to look at 
the code :)

  That did the trick;  I'm flummoxed as to how you can make it work 
with a 1-second final delay though!

  I've a 2 s. final delay, plus 20 ms. nanosleep() power-up delay 
(instead of sleep(1)), and channel change is now /smooth/.

  With a 'mutex'd wrapper script that does channel Sky sleep 
channelagainifnotcalledsince (allows repeated cslls to change channel 
without interferences, and copes with having to possibly turn the box 
on) it's all working a dream.

  I may tinker with making it a single perl script (parsing, delays  
serial control build in) with proper 'flock'ing, but as they say:  if it 
ain't broke ...

  If anyone's interested in my wrapper, email me.
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[mythtv-users] I think mythweb 0.17 is killing mythbackend

2005-02-16 Thread Neil Bird
  Since upgrading to 0.17 last W/E [ATrpms], mythbackend has died 
without logs twice.  Both times, I'd been fiddling around in mythweb 
looking at recorded items  schedules shortly beforehand.

  *May* not be related, just very suspicious.  I'll check over the W/E 
when I'm not worried about losing the backend to see if I can trigger 
it, but in the meantime, anyone else seen anything like this recently?

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman
Yeah, that's the URL that doesn't work (for me).
Max.
Frank Muenchow wrote:
Max Waterman schrieb:
How can I install it?
I can't d/l the s/w from the web site below

http://ircm.homelinux.org/cgi/lookup.php?context=homepagecommand=getURLparameter=mythstream-v0.16_3 


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[mythtv-users] Re: thac's mandrake 10.1 rpms for 0.17 are out

2005-02-16 Thread Boleslaw Ciesielski
Adam Prentice wrote:
I just tried urpmi mythtv-suite after adding thac's rpm'sbut for some
reason it says libmythv isn't available I had no problem with
0.16...everything installed.   Am I missing something ?
I think this is fixed now (make sure to run urpmi.update -a first)
Bolek
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman
I'm not surprised. You get used to it in China :|
Max.
Ryszard wrote:
i just downloaded it..?!
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:52:20 +0800, Max Waterman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

How can I install it?
I can't d/l the s/w from the web site below, and the rpms I can find
seem to require downgrading many other packages...
Max.
Jesper Rasmussen wrote:
   

would it be possible to collect the links to the unofficial addons, on
mythtv.org?
Max Waterman wrote:
 

Wow, it can play BBC Radio? Awesome :D
(I see BBC7 and BBC Radio 1 listed in one of the screen shots)
Max.
   

Here you go: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
 


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:31:54 -0500, Brian J. Murrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah.  OSD.  On-screen-display.  Perhaps you thought that by OSD I only
 meant the few overlays that pop-up over playing video.  No.  By OSD I
 mean the whole On-screen-display.

So rather than follow established terminology you invent your own and
expect everyone else to follow along?  Pretty much everyone understand
that an OSD refers to UI that's overlayed on the video rather than
generic GUIs, except those that need to justify the fact that they've
been talking out their ass.


 Exactly.  I never said that the OSD needed to know about vsync.  I said
 video playback needed to know about vsync.  The OSD still needs to be
 able to display in a manner that is compatible with the video card's
 TV-Out mode, and for the G400, the only true replication of video
 broadcast display I have seen available is with DirectFB, which means
 that if you want to use DirectFB's CRTC2 TV-out for video display you
 also have to use that for the OSD display since using the
 X11/framebuffer TV-out (i.e. using the matroxfb_maven kernel module and
 matroxset) is mutually exclusive with using DirectFB.

You can get quality thats indistinguishable from broadcast using nVidia cards.


 
  Please, get a clue before spouting off extremely inaccurate comments.
 
 No Isaac, my comments are not extremely inaccurate. 

You've made several statements about what is and is not possible that
were flat out wrong.   You tried to portray yourself as an expert when
it's pretty clear that you have even done the basic homework.  You've
made claims about MythTV without even having a CLUE about how it's
implemented.  So yeah I think Isaac was pretty much spot on.
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Re: [mythtv-users] 0.17 backend segfaults

2005-02-16 Thread Antti Siiskonen
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:24:44AM +0200, Antti Siiskonen wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 04:07:48PM -0500, Chris Pinkham wrote:
  bt isn't enough because it doesn't show all threads.  Look at the
  HOWTO for necessary steps to get a good backtrace.
 
 Ok, new quite lengthy trace attached. While I have basic understanding 

I compiled libmysqlclient with debug symbols on and did some more
digging with various debugging tools and google and to me it seems that
someone is calling free() twice. Mythbackend is too large to be
debugged with njamd or most tools so I can't find the real reason for
this segfault. Any help still appreciated.


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 07:59 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
   TVout solutions are a wildcard with any card.  Most suck and are 
 unknown as far as how they operate internally.

That is true, for most, but not for the g400 -- with DirectFB.  I
understand what you are saying about the unknown (rather undocumented)
internal operations, but one of the DirectFB developers did some great
work for the g400 and utilized it's tv-encoder as it is supposed to be,
producing a perfectly timed, interlaced, overscanned output that looks
_exactly_ like TV.  No tearing, no interlacing artifacts -- none of
that.

 ModeLine coryntsci 14.3 720 760 824 910 480 484 492 525 interlace

I will try that.  But I have found that one modeline for one brand of
video card just does not work with other video cards, so unless this is
for a g400 specifically, I won't get my hopes up.

   Which it can, but unless you are using production-quality hardware 
 with video genlocking, what you record will not be exactly synced with 
 what you get out.

But you can.  I have done so for years using another PVR application
that could utilize DirectFB and g400 in tv-out mode.  Encoding artifacts
aside, it was TV-picture perfect.  You could flip between tv and the
signal going through the g400 and they were identical in smoothness and
picture size.

   Get thee to google for g400 tvout setup.

Been there, done that.  Nobody seems to want (or able to achieve)
picture perfect output.  There seems to be a lot of satisfaction with
taking an ntsc signal and displaying it scaled to 800x600 on the
framebuffer.  That seems to be the state of the art with
x11/framebuffer/matroxset.  Sad thing is that it can look so much
better.

If anyone with a g400 is interested in seeing how good it can be, you
need directfb and mplayer with the dfbmga video out driver.  Use some
source material that is suitable -- must be 480 lines, the more motion
the better (to see the interlacing artifacts of X/framebuffer) but even
just a ticker is sufficient to see it.

Compare that with the mplayer on X/framebuffer with matroxset hacks.
You will see what I mean.

b.



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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:28 -0500, Donavan Stanley wrote:
 
 So rather than follow established terminology

Established where?  Here?  I guess I have not been hanging out here long
enough to know that while the world of set-top-boxes calls the display
that it shows on the TV the OSD, myth folks use that to mean only the
video overlayed portion of the display.

But let's just move on OK?  I will stand corrected and from now on I
will only use OSD to mean the video overlayed portion if that is what we
call it here.  Just so I get my terms correct. what shall I call the
rest of the graphical display?  Can we move on and stop arguing about
syntax now?  There is so much more we can accomplish if we can decide to
be grown up and not bicker about the small things.

 you invent your own and
 expect everyone else to follow along?

But I didn't invent it.  OSD means On Screen Display.

 Pretty much everyone understand
 that an OSD refers to UI that's overlayed on the video rather than
 generic GUIs, except those that need to justify the fact that they've
 been talking out their ass.

So now you are going to tell me what I meant by OSD?  You can't just
take my word for it that I mean the whole graphical On Screen Display?

 You can get quality thats indistinguishable from broadcast using nVidia cards.

You can with Matrox g4*0 cards too.

b.



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Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing aboutMythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Thom Sturgill
Look at mythburn on sourceforge. It was written by/for knoppmyth but the
scripts are available modified for Fedora Core. Creates a DVD with menues
and chapters (based on myth cut-list or even spacing).

 Just a few reasons why... There's a series or two out there that I'd
 like to archive instead of waiting 3 years for the $100 DVD set to
 come out.  Another reason I'd like to see this feature is because I
 record a cooking show which I think is GREAT.  I'd like to start a
 library of all the episodes of this show based on the topic/food of
 the show... I would say this show right now this is taking up 70% of
 my storage alone.  Also, every now and then I'll see a single program
 that is relavent in some way that I want to keep it for reference, or
 might want to show a friend that might not have seen it or have access
 to see it.

 I do appreciate the replies.  I can be happy enough, for now, with the
 features nuvexport can offer and I'll use OSX to do the actuall DVD
 authoring for now.  Like I said already, I do appreciate Myth and I
 appreciate Isaac for sharing his project with the world and continuing
 to develope it as well as let others develop plug-ins for it.

 Anyway, I don't mean to cause a ripple in the water, but I just wanted
 to see some clear information on why this hasn't been seriously
 considered up to this point.  Thanks again fellow mythers!

 Myth on Wayne... Myth on Garth!  =D

 Matt


 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:58:51 -0500, Brad Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:40:43 -0600, M S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yea yea...  If I could I would, unfortunantly, I'm a user not a
  developer.  I only know enough to get mysel out of trouble when it
  comes to linux, not how to create trouble.  Like I said, I love myth,
  I just don't understand why this hasn't been considered a priority.  I
  know the question has been asked 1000 times, but I've never seen a
  developer take it seriously as of yet.
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:00:43 -0500, sdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:53:47 -0600, M S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First off... this is not meant to be a flame war and let me say I
 LOVE
both the concept of MythTV as well as it's functionality.
   
I think the biggest thing missing from MythTV is a built in
 function
for archiving shows to DVD.  The closest thing I've come to is
MythBurn, and even for all it offers, it's still lacking some key
features such as:
   
1) True integration
2) Lack of using cutlists (even though someone has wrote a patch
 to do
this, it isn't fullproof)
3) Doesn't convert the mp2 audio into the DVD standard of AC3
 audio
4) Only supposidly works with MPEG2 clips (pvr-x50s)
5) and more
   
I have 176GB available for myth recordings and every day I'm
 having to
delete a show just to continue to use myth.  I want to archive a
 large
percentage of my movies to DVD.  Sure, people can say run this
command line, then do this, then that... then burn.  NO!  This
 should
be an automated procedure with ease and simplicity and no commands
lines.  It should be able to take a recording, use the cutlists to
remove commercials, build indexes, and make interactive menus.  It
should also not involve having to do somethings on one machine,
 then
copying to finish off processing on another with the exception of
possibly saving an iso that can be burned on another machine which
 has
a burner.
   
How come this hasn't been a priority for someone to develop an
integrated plugin for myth?  I've been told other PVRs have this
functionality.
   
Anyway, again, I don't mean to sound harsh, but this one thing is
severly limiting what I can do with mythtv.
   
   
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 I'm guessing that's because, while it is not currently integrated into
 the myth interface as such, there are a variety of ways that users can
 export myth recordings to DVD-compliant format (nuvexport comes to
 mind) and then burn them to DVD.  I'm positive that all of the
 developers are able to do this without having to integrate it into the
 myth interface so they probably don't feel that it's a very high
 priority.  Remember that while other PVR's may offer this
 functionality, most, if not all, of those PVR's are commercial systems
 for sale to make a profit.  Myth is not such a system.  It was created
 by Isaac so he could have a system that does what he wants the way he
 wants it.  Other users and developers have chipped in to add 

Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Michael J. Lynch
Brian J. Murrell wrote:
snip
 

ModeLine coryntsci 14.3 720 760 824 910 480 484 492 525 interlace
   

I will try that.  But I have found that one modeline for one brand of
video card just does not work with other video cards, so unless this is
for a g400 specifically, I won't get my hopes up.
 

Ummmthe modeline is only specific to the monitor being driven, *not*
the video card.  In other words, the values in the modeline are determined
by the requirements and/or limits of the monitor.  It's the job of the video
card driver to convert the modeline information into the specific 
information
for the video card.

While it is true that a modeline may work with one video card and not 
another
that has nothing to do with the modeline itself and has everything to do
with video card and driver capabilities.

Probably the biggest video card/driver incompatability with the modeline
Cory gave you is whether or not the card/driver can do interlaced modes or
not.  Other than that, I can't imagine a card that can't generate the 
relatively
slow timings from *any* NTSC or PAL modeline.

 

snip

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Jeroen Brosens
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
TVout solutions are a wildcard with any card.  Most suck and are 
unknown as far as how they operate internally.

I just recently found out that the TV-out of SiS chipsets (many, many 
HTPC barebones use them) are not capable of outputting interlaced 
material. Quite an important thing if you want picture perfect I'd say. 
I am trying to get the modeline right

... with a homebrew circuit to modulate RGB from the VGA at this 
proper frequency into NTSC Y/C and Composite.  It is *NOT* a 
rate/scanline
converter which is what almost all tvout cards use.  If you use that 
modeline on a VGA monitor, it won't like it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  What interlacing?  All I want
mythtv to do is record a signal (interlaced since it's standard NTSC)
and play it back exactly as it would have been sent to the TV directly;
so that means recorded interlaced and played back, interlaced.  Now that
may (or most likely) mean packing two interlaced fields into a frame,
but the video card should display the fields interlaced, one after the
other.
Which it can, but unless you are using production-quality hardware 
with video genlocking, what you record will not be exactly synced with 
what you get out.
I am trying to get the modeline right for my TV set so that I can start 
using my homebrew VGA to RGB converter. I made it because CRT-1 output 
(ie. the VGA connector) IS capable of outputting interlaced material. It 
seems that all you nVidia owners forget that their vsync is controlled 
by OpenGL, which in fact is not supported on every video card in Linux.

Oh and deinterlacing using bobdeint sucks donkey balls without vsync.
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Cope
So what chipsets/cards do ouput interlaced?

Greg
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Actually, the 5200 *does* have an mpeg-2 decoder on the card.
This was confirmed by a couple users onthis list a few months ago.
Also, nVidia has stated that the FX series cards are equipped
with mpeg-2 decoders.  I believe the drivers take advantage of
that as well.
OK... I learn something new everyday.  Can it do HD-res decoding?
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[mythtv-users] Please reply - Should I de-interlace before encoding to MPEG2 for burning on DVD?

2005-02-16 Thread Vijay Gill
Hi,
I had asked this question about 2-3 months ago and got no reply
that time. I am still anxious to know about the answer to increase my
knowledge.
I record programs using MythTV (0.17) + PVR 350.  I then encode
with mencoder (part of MPlayer).
When I encode the programs without de-interlacing, the size of the
file is larger than the one encoded with de-interlacing enabled in
mencoder.
 I wish to know that will the files encoded with deinterlacing on
be able to be viewed on stand-alone DVD players?

Regards from

VJ
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Re: [mythtv-users] I think mythweb 0.17 is killing mythbackend

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Vollmar
Neil Bird wrote:
  Since upgrading to 0.17 last W/E [ATrpms], mythbackend has died 
without logs twice.  Both times, I'd been fiddling around in mythweb 
looking at recorded items  schedules shortly beforehand.

  *May* not be related, just very suspicious.  I'll check over the W/E 
when I'm not worried about losing the backend to see if I can trigger 
it, but in the meantime, anyone else seen anything like this recently?


 

What else have you changed recently?  Ever since I upgraded to kernel 
2.6.10, I've been having crash problems with the backend.  This includes 
.16 and .17.  I can actually usually repeat it by just flagging 
commercials on a show.  Mythweb tends to crash it quite a bit too.  
Sometimes a frontend will crash it.  Someone wrote somewhere on this 
list that 2.6.10 has a bug in it.  I don't know, I just know that this 
is rather frustating.

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/16/2005 9:12:54 AM 
 Actually, the 5200 *does* have an mpeg-2 decoder on the card.
 This was confirmed by a couple users onthis list a few months ago.
 Also, nVidia has stated that the FX series cards are equipped
 with mpeg-2 decoders.  I believe the drivers take advantage of
 that as well.

   OK... I learn something new everyday.  Can it do HD-res
decoding?

-Cory

Not sure, but I'll post to the list when I get enough fundage together
to 
purchase an air2pc card and an HDTV Ready monitor.  

...now if I could just find some more stuff to ebay... ;-)

Paul

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Re: [mythtv-users] Problem- Unable to find mythcommflag

2005-02-16 Thread Paul K
Well - That's the thread i read, but i thought (think)


 if ! strstr $PATH /usr/local/bin ; then
 PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
 fi

... means that if the path DOESN'T include /usr/local/bin that it
should add it...   ???

  I DO have /usr/local/bin in my path. And i'm not at my Myth box
right now to try it. :-(

Paul K



On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:57:06 -0500, David George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/16/2005 7:49 AM, Paul K wrote:
 
   Building from scratch (almost) - Slackware 10.1, MythTV 0.17, but
 keeping database from 0.15.1 I now get the error that has been noted
 on this list already (But I didn't see an answer):
 
 ERROR: Unable to find mythcommflag
 
 
 http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=mythtvdo=search_resultssearch_forum=allsearch_string=unable+to+find+mythcommflagsearch_type=AND
 
   Am i missing something?
 
 Only thing you missed was searching the archives before posting ;-)
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] UK - Controlling Sky boxes

2005-02-16 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 13:09, Neil Bird wrote:
 Around about 15/02/05 15:04, Simon Kenyon typed ...

  i believe you are using my version of the software for the redremote
  the Makefile documents the various timeouts
  sorry if this caused you problems

Yep, but don't apologise, it's my fault for not bothering to look at
 the code :)

That did the trick;  I'm flummoxed as to how you can make it work
 with a 1-second final delay though!
well it doesn't work every time - so there you go!
post your wrapper and i'll give it a whirl
also, post your changes to use nanosleep()
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR-250 IR dongle

2005-02-16 Thread Andy Long
I would suggest posting a comment for help in either the hauppauge
help forums or calling their customer support.  If it was a warranty
or paid repair issue, they should send you a new IR receiver if there
is an incompatibility.


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:47:36 -0600, Josh Burks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I recently had to send my older PVR-250 back to Hauppauge, and they
 sent me a new one. The card I had was a Rev. 1 card (it is larger,
 with a black heatsink on the iTVC15 chip). It came with the sorry
 solid black remote.
 
 The card Hauppauge sent back appears to be a newer, smaller card with
 no heatsink, a iTVC16 chip instead, a Rev. 3 maybe?? They sent the
 board only, no accessories.
 
 I can't get the remote to work now. irw reports nothing when I press a
 key. I'm using the lircd.conf file from Jarod's site. I popped in my
 test WinXP drive, installed to newest drivers for the card, and no
 remote in WinXP either. I even restarted lircd using my Radio Shack
 remote conf (remote and conf same as Jarod's guide), and nothing there
 either!
 
 Are the IR dongles from older Hauppauge cards compatible with newer
 cards? Don't some of the new dongle's have transmitters and receivers
 (I think the PVR-150 does)?
 
 Thoughts? Experiences?
 
 Josh
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Jeroen Brosens




Brian J. Murrell wrote:

  On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:28 -0500, Donavan Stanley wrote:
  
  
So rather than follow established terminology you invent your own and
expect everyone else to follow along?  Pretty much everyone understand
that an OSD refers to UI that's overlayed on the video rather than
generic GUIs, except those that need to justify the fact that they've
been talking out their ass.

  
  
Just to defend against your claims that "my" definition of OSD is out of
my ass and contrary to what "everyone" thinks it is would a definition
from the wikipedia be good enough for you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-screen_display
Or perhaps they are talking out of their ass too?

Seems that people in this forum posting (3rd one down specifically)
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?s=fefe6362a1567350a062a780e7293b72p=86769#post86769 don't count in your survey of "everyone" above either.

So my use of OSD is not really "so wrong" and your definition of
"everyone" is not so much really _every_ one.

b.
  
  

Stop wining dude, if you have some useful input then post it. But don't
go scrutinizing people's interpretations of concepts or forcing your
interpretation on others. Better use common sense and unambiguous
terminology to express your meanings instead. In my opinion, this list
is ment to be informative and inspiring towards new developments.

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
That is true, for most, but not for the g400 -- with DirectFB.  I
understand what you are saying about the unknown (rather undocumented)
internal operations, but one of the DirectFB developers did some great
work for the g400 and utilized it's tv-encoder as it is supposed to be,
producing a perfectly timed, interlaced, overscanned output that looks
_exactly_ like TV.  No tearing, no interlacing artifacts -- none of
that.
	Some of them can suck less, and may in fact be quite good.  What I 
am saying is that unless you run a genlocked, synchronous 29.97 resolution 
with a 1:1 pixel-mapped input/output characteristic (i.e. the concept of 
overscanned and underscanned make no sense), it is *NOT* unprocessed. 
Nobody without big budgets and expensive proprietary cards can accomplish 
that.  Everything else is a matter of degree on how much fudging gets 
done.

But you can.  I have done so for years using another PVR application
that could utilize DirectFB and g400 in tv-out mode.  Encoding artifacts
aside, it was TV-picture perfect.  You could flip between tv and the
signal going through the g400 and they were identical in smoothness and
picture size.
	Sounds like the fudging was minimized with that arrangement of 
software.  It's still being fudged, however, so it's not perfect and 
unadulterated, sync-issue-free playing.

 	Get thee to google for g400 tvout setup.
Been there, done that.  Nobody seems to want (or able to achieve)
picture perfect output.  There seems to be a lot of satisfaction with
taking an ntsc signal and displaying it scaled to 800x600 on the
framebuffer.  That seems to be the state of the art with
x11/framebuffer/matroxset.  Sad thing is that it can look so much
better.
	You can't get perfect, but I agree that upscaling NTSC 480 line up 
to 800x600 and then having the encoder chip descale it back is rather 
silly.  At least start with an YYYx480 resolution modeline.

	Other than that, I've got no MGA card that's modern enough to even 
do Xv.  Can't help with that.

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Re: [mythtv-users] ATI 9100 Pro IGP with onboard sound

2005-02-16 Thread Bill Smith
Kevin Kuphal wrote:
Berend van Wachem wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Yes I have this motherboard in my Pundit-r. I am not sure if it's 
exactly the same sound hardware as you have. My lspci gives me for 
the sound

Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc SoundMAX Integrated 
Di  gital Audio

I had no problem getting this to work. I use Slackware 10.0/10.1 with 
the 2.6.10 kernel. I compiled the kernel with Alsa/atiixp and the 
just ran alsaconf. It recongnized the driver directly and it seems to 
work OK.

Not great - sometimes mplayer complains that the audio driver is 
broken. But is works good in mythtv with alsa support compiled in.

What do you mean, no sound card is recongnized?

I think I might have different hardware.  I have this from lspci:
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown 
device 4341

alsaconf identifies it and loads the modules:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] America]# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
snd-pcm-oss44320   0  (autoclean)
snd-mixer-oss  16728   1  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-atiixp 12768   1
snd-ac97-codec 73208   0  [snd-atiixp]
snd-pcm82592   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-atiixp snd-ac97-codec]
snd-timer  20004   0  [snd-pcm]
snd49092   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss 
snd-atiixp snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer]
soundcore   6436   4  [snd]
snd-page-alloc  7912   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-atiixp snd-pcm 
snd-timer snd]

but there are no alsa devices listed:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] America]# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...
or PCM devices:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] America]# aplay -L
aplay: conf.c:3083: snd_config_update_free: Assertion `update-count  
0  update-finfo' failed.
Aborted

I'm running on a Soyo P4RC350.  Their website lists the Windows media 
drivers as C-MEDIA Audio Driver (9761)

Thanks,
Kevin
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Kevin, I have the same MB and it worked with Fedora Core 3 out of the 
box. I can get you more details when I'm back home on Friday. I've had 
some other issues though, been trying to get a tv-out solution going for 
a while.

-Bill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Feature Request: Shoutcast streams and Apple trailers like on Xbox Media center.

2005-02-16 Thread Ryszard
i downloaded this today in an attempt to get it to run.  i couldnt
even get it to make.  gotta say tho' i didnt try very hard (think i
had some dev packages missing)..


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:07:44 -0800, Lonnie Borntreger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 23:49 -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
  Hmm, you do appear to be correct.  I know I saw something for myth
  that would play internet radio, but I can't for the life of me
  remember what it was, although I'm about 99% sure that it was
  something unofficial.  I'll have to look around a little bit and see
  what I can find.  If I turn up anything usefull I'll post it back
  here.
 
 Here you go:
 http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
 
 
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[mythtv-users] Proxy Server

2005-02-16 Thread Chris Ainslie
Hi All,

I'm a bit of a *nix newbie and would appreciate some
advice.  Is there any way that I can setup Myth to
connect to the net via a proxy server?  For example,
all the other machines on the network connect to the
outside world on 192.16.0.1:4480  I'd like to be able
to configure Myth (or even better, the entire
KnoppMyth installation) to use the same details.

Is this possible  if so, does anyone have any
instructions.  A basic, edit this file with this
will do me just fine.

Thanks a stack
Chris.





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Re: [mythtv-users] MythMusic compile failure

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Bender
Blammo wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:08:35 -0600, jmk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To answer my own post...  removing mad-0.14.2b and installing
libmad-0.15.1b and libid3tag-0.15.1b fixed my mythmusic compile errors.
Stupid old RH9 box.
Joe

How about this one:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mythmusic]# ./configure ; make
Creating config.h, config.pro
Configuration settings: 
 
OpenGL support will not be included
FFTW   support will not be included
SDLsupport will not be included
AACsupport will not be included
You did not enable OpenGL, FFTW, SDL or AAC in your first step 
(./configure). According to the README, they are disabled by default.

cd mythmusic  make -f Makefile
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mythmusic/mythmusic'
qmake -o Makefile mythmusic.pro
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythmusic/mythmusic'
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mythmusic/mythmusic'
g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O3 -march=pentiumpro -fomit-frame-pointer
-D_REENTRANT -fPIC  -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPREFIX=\/usr/local\ -DHAVE_MMX
-DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_PLUGIN -DQT_SHARED
-I/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default -I. -I../../../local/include
-I../../../include/cdda -I/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include -o cddecoder.o
cddecoder.cpp
In file included from cddecoder.cpp:10:
cddecoder.h:6:21: cdaudio.h: No such file or directory
cddecoder.cpp: In member function `int CdDecoder::getNumTracks()':
cddecoder.cpp:256: error: `cd_init_device' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:256: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once for each function it appears in.)
cddecoder.cpp:258: error: aggregate `disc_info discinfo' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:259: error: `cd_stat' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:262: error: `cd_finish' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp: In member function `int CdDecoder::getNumCDAudioTracks()':
cddecoder.cpp:282: error: `cd_init_device' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:284: error: aggregate `disc_info discinfo' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:285: error: `cd_stat' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:288: error: `cd_finish' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:302: error: `CDAUDIO_TRACK_AUDIO' undeclared (first use
this function)
cddecoder.cpp: In member function `Metadata* CdDecoder::getMetadata()':
cddecoder.cpp:353: error: `cd_init_device' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:355: error: aggregate `disc_info discinfo' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:356: error: `cd_stat' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:359: error: `cd_finish' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:387: error: `CDAUDIO_TRACK_AUDIO' undeclared (first use
this function)
cddecoder.cpp:395: error: aggregate `disc_data discdata' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:398: error: `cddb_read_disc_data' undeclared (first use
this function)
cddecoder.cpp:416: error: `cddb_genre' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:434: error: `cddb_write_data' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp: In member function `virtual void
CdDecoder::commitMetadata(Metadata*)':
cddecoder.cpp:452: error: `cd_init_device' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:454: error: aggregate `disc_info discinfo' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:455: error: `cd_stat' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:458: error: `cd_finish' undeclared (first use this function)
cddecoder.cpp:479: error: aggregate `disc_data discdata' has
incomplete type and cannot be defined
cddecoder.cpp:480: error: `cddb_read_disc_data' undeclared (first use
this function)
cddecoder.cpp:524: error: `cddb_write_data' undeclared (first use this function)
../../../include/cdda/cdda_interface.h: At global scope:
../../../include/cdda/cdda_interface.h:195: warning: 'strerror_tr'
defined but not used
make[1]: *** [cddecoder.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythmusic/mythmusic'
make: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2
Everything is installed correctly, AFAICT
This looks like you are missing one of the required prerequisites 
spelled out in the README. Did you install libcdaudio?
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I just recently found out that the TV-out of SiS chipsets (many, many HTPC 
barebones use them) are not capable of outputting interlaced material. Quite 
an important thing if you want picture perfect I'd say. I am trying to get 
the modeline right
	That cannot be correct, since TVOUT is defined to be interlaced. 
Now, if you meant to say that it cannot play both fields of a interlaced 
content, I may believe that.  I've got an NVidia card (MX-400) with such a 
horrendously crappy tvout chip on it, the most I ever see is 240 lines. 
The chip just plain blows chunks.

	For future reference, the following issues need to be taken into 
account (almost without exception):
- The TVOut of regular VGA cards use a separate chip (or integrated into 
the GPU) to do the same thing as an scanline converter.  Thus, they 
generally do temporal and spatial resampling to make the square peg of 
the computer-generated video fit into the round hole of an NTSC|PAL 
compliant video signal.
- Modelines on such cards are only loosely related to the TVout video 
output.  Tweaking things like over/underscan, interlacing, refresh rates, 
resolutions, etc are all filterd through the tvout chip of the above note.

I am trying to get the modeline right for my TV set so that I can start using 
my homebrew VGA to RGB converter. I made it because CRT-1 output (ie. the VGA 
connector) IS capable of outputting interlaced material. It seems that all 
you nVidia owners forget that their vsync is controlled by OpenGL, which in 
fact is not supported on every video card in Linux.

	I'm now finally curious as to what VGA-RGB converter you are 
doing.  VGA *is* RGB... unless it's just a cable to make it DB-15 
(old-school 15-pin macintosh video connector) as opposed to H-DB-15 
(15-pin VGA connector).  What are you driving?

-Cory
*
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* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: [mythtv-users] Proxy Server

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Chris Ainslie wrote:
Hi All,
I'm a bit of a *nix newbie and would appreciate some
advice.  Is there any way that I can setup Myth to
connect to the net via a proxy server?  For example,
all the other machines on the network connect to the
outside world on 192.16.0.1:4480  I'd like to be able
to configure Myth (or even better, the entire
KnoppMyth installation) to use the same details.
Is this possible  if so, does anyone have any
instructions.  A basic, edit this file with this
will do me just fine.
 

If you're referring to the XMLTV/DD downloads (which is, I think, the 
only net access that Myth does), I believe it uses wget to do the 
downloading so you might try this:

export http_proxy=http://192.168.10.11:8080;
export ftp_proxy=http://192.168.10.11:8080;
alias wget='wget --proxy-user=Wonderwall\JohnDoe --proxy-passwd=Go4It'
I think that would hardcode wget to use a proxy all the time for all 
users (assuming you export the variables in the global login script)

Kevin
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[mythtv-users] Negative ATSC signal strength

2005-02-16 Thread Doug Larrick
With the new-ish code that uses v4l2 to get the signal strength from a
HD-3000 card, I am seeing negative signal strengths on my strongest
stations (over 90 using dtvchannel).  I suspect the 1.6 driver is
(buggily) using a signed char to compute the signal strength at some point.

I don't have time to fix it right now (out of town next week), but maybe
Myth could fall back to v4l if it sees a negative signal strength?

-Doug


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RE: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Lan User
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Waterman
 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:28 AM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

Hi,

Sorry to hijack this thread but I just have a few questions.

1.  How is this version of MythStream different than the project found here:
http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/

2.  In regards to version 0.16 of MythStream found here:
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
Is the version number 0.16 just a coincidence and not meant to relate in
anyway to version 0.16 of MythTV?

Thanks much,

Patrick.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Feature Request: Shoutcast streams and Apple trailers like on Xbox Media center.

2005-02-16 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 9:55, Ryszard wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:07:44 -0800, Lonnie Borntreger
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 23:49 -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
   Hmm, you do appear to be correct.  I know I saw something for myth
   that would play internet radio, but I can't for the life of me
   remember what it was, although I'm about 99% sure that it was
   something unofficial.  I'll have to look around a little bit and 
see
   what I can find.  If I turn up anything usefull I'll post it back
   here.
  
  Here you go:
  http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
  
  
 i downloaded this today in an attempt to get it to run.  i couldnt
 even get it to make.  gotta say tho' i didnt try very hard (think i
 had some dev packages missing)..


Built fine for me last night with current Myth CVS on FC1... though I 
have to say, the UI is quite confusing.

-JAC
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[mythtv-users] Tuner selection

2005-02-16 Thread James Evans
Is there a way to setup mythtv so that livetv is always on Tuner 0,
and recorded shows are always on Tuner 1?

Sorry if this is answered elsewhere but I have been unable to find it.

Thanks,
James
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Re: [mythtv-users] ATI 9100 Pro IGP with onboard sound

2005-02-16 Thread Berend van Wachem
Hi,
Kevin, I have the same MB and it worked with Fedora Core 3 out of the 
box. I can get you more details when I'm back home on Friday. I've had 
some other issues though, been trying to get a tv-out solution going for 
a while.
Just a hint for the TV-out, don't use the latest ATI drivers, use the 
patched old ones (3.12) instead, then TV-out will work fine.
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 09:52 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
   Some of them can suck less, and may in fact be quite good.  What I 
 am saying is that unless you run a genlocked, synchronous 29.97 resolution 
 with a 1:1 pixel-mapped input/output characteristic

So, before we get into another syntax pissing contest and i am told I am
talking out of my ass again, what exactly do you mean by genlocked,
synchronous 29.97 resolution with a 1:1 pixel-mapped input/output
characteristic?

If you mean that the signal is encoded by the video card to the
television exactly as it would have been by the original broadcast,
(i.e. field interlaced, correctly timed with the picture the exact same
size as it would have been originally) then yes, the g400 can do that.

  (i.e. the concept of 
 overscanned and underscanned make no sense),

Only in as much as you see exactly the same amount of the picture coming
from the recorded version of the content that you would have seen if you
watched it live.

For example, if I watch a capture of CNN through the g400 using x11 on
the framebuffer hacked with matroxset, I see more of the picture than I
would see watching live broadcast television.  The ticker at the bottom
has a significant amount of picture underneath it.  If I watch CNN live,
I don't see the picture underneath the ticker and the ticker runs pretty
much (within a scanline or two) along the bottom edge of my television.

If I watch that same capture through the g400 using DirectFB's TV-Out,
it looks _exactly_ like it would watching it live.  I see exactly the
same amount of the image as I would have watching it live.

  it is *NOT* unprocessed. 
 Nobody without big budgets and expensive proprietary cards can accomplish 
 that.  Everything else is a matter of degree on how much fudging gets 
 done.

As far as my eye can see (and I see a lot of the artifacts that people
around me watching do not see because they don't know what to look for),
it's visually unprocessed.  It looks exactly like it would have looked
live -- size, viewable portion, smoothness, etc.

As far as how the picture looks, I can take some stills with my digicam
to demonstrate what I mean if you like.  You will see the difference
between live and x11/framebuffer/matroxset hacked.  You won't with
DirectFB.

   You can't get perfect,

But I can.  When I get a moment today (i.e. get a moment when somebody
is not watching something), I will do a capture and take some stills
describing exactly what I am talking about above and post links to the
pics here.

b.



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Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Ryszard
looks like 1. goes via a browser to stream content you've got on your
sever, while 2. does internet radio.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:09:42 -0600, Lan User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Waterman
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:28 AM
  To: Discussion about mythtv
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream
 
 Hi,
 
 Sorry to hijack this thread but I just have a few questions.
 
 1.  How is this version of MythStream different than the project found here:
 http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/
 
 2.  In regards to version 0.16 of MythStream found here:
 http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
 Is the version number 0.16 just a coincidence and not meant to relate in
 anyway to version 0.16 of MythTV?
 
 Thanks much,
 
 Patrick.
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:25:31 -0500, Brian J. Murrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just to defend against your claims that my definition of OSD is out of
 my ass and contrary to what everyone thinks it is would a definition
 from the wikipedia be good enough for you?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-screen_display
 Or perhaps they are talking out of their ass too?

That wikipedia definition applies to VCRs and the like.  Were using
the display was a spiffy new feature.  If one to use your definition
of OSD we could just shorten it to D since it's all on the screen. 
Why bother with the on screen portion at all?

This isn't a Myth convention it's used widely by the users and
developers of multimedia/HTPC apps to indicate the portions of the GUI
that are overlaid on the video vs the user interface that gets
displayed when no video is being played.  And even it it wasn't widely
used, it's STILL used in that context within Myth.

Hey let's all play a fun game, let's all start calling books on paper
displays and get all pissy when someone says what the fuck are you
talking about?.
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Re: [mythtv-users] ATI 9100 Pro IGP with onboard sound

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Bill Smith wrote:
Kevin, I have the same MB and it worked with Fedora Core 3 out of the 
box. I can get you more details when I'm back home on Friday. I've had 
some other issues though, been trying to get a tv-out solution going 
for a while.

I'm still using RH9.  I just unloaded the alsa 1.0.8 from atrpms and 
recompiled 1.0.7 from source and it works fine now.  At least from home 
I can see the devices:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] alsa-utils-1.0.7]# aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 1: ATI IXP IEC958 [ATI IXP IEC958 (AC97)]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Thanks for taking time to work with me.  Seems better now.
Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Ryszard
 
 Hey let's all play a fun game, let's all start calling books on paper
 displays and get all pissy when someone says what the fuck are you
 talking about?.
 

roflmao... :-) chuckle, chortle and all that.
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:09, Lan User wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sorry to hijack this thread but I just have a few questions.
 
 1.  How is this version of MythStream different than the project found 
here:
  http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/


Did you even look at that web site?  That project is an add-on to 
MythWeb to allow streaming of MPEG-2 recorded Myth TV content over the 
web using VLC.  It has nothing to do with streaming internet radio.

-JAC
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[mythtv-users] Re: The death of MythDVD? [RipGuard]

2005-02-16 Thread rsalern5
 Macrovision plans to unveil technology to block 97% of software used
 to duplicate discs.

Assuming it actually works, then 100% of the people will use the 3% of the 
software that isn't blocked.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: The death of MythDVD? [RipGuard]

2005-02-16 Thread Neil Watson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:27:06AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Macrovision plans to unveil technology to block 97% of software used
to duplicate discs.
If you can write software to block it you can write software to unblock
it.  This is a futile arms race the that MPAA and RIAA cannot win.
--
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Network Administrator | Uptime 34 days
http://watson-wilson.ca   | 2.6.10 AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2000+ x 2
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[mythtv-users] mythweb 0.17 and programid

2005-02-16 Thread James Orr
In mythweb 0.17 will it save the seriesid/programid of a show in the
oldrecorded table if I tell it to Never Record?

Also, how about a Never Record button if a programid is present even
if there is no description for the episode?

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:03, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
 I've got an NVidia card (MX-400) with such a 
 horrendously crappy tvout chip on it, the most I ever see is 240 
 lines.  
 The chip just plain blows chunks.

Cory, just curious, what TV encoder chip does your Nvidia card use?  My 
old LeadTek GF4MX-420 card used an NV17 TV encoder and the output was 
beautiful.  That card has since died and I'm now using the onboard 
GF4MX-440 from my Chaintech 7NIF-2 nForce2 boards, which uses an NV18 
TV encoder, and, to quote you, it simply blows chunks.  You're about 
the only other person I've ever heard speak of Nvidia TV-out that way, 
so I was just wondering if you also had the newer chip.

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Estabrooks
 But also, the price difference is $30 Canadian for me to get either
 card. The 250 is $199 at BestBuy and the 350 is $230 for me from my

 Dude,  check out Staples.  They regularly sell the 250's for $149 CDN.

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Michael J. Lynch
Jeroen Brosens wrote:
snip
.
I must disappoint you here; first of all I have massive respect to 
Thomas Winischhofer, the developer/maintainer of the X driver for SiS 
chipsets, he has a well documented website on which he elaboralety 
describes every driver option that he squeezed out of the SiS chips. 
In the FAQ however, I only recently stumbled upon this:

* Q: Why does output of interlaced video via TV show a comb-like
  interlace-effect? If the source material is interlaced and the
  TV output is interlaced, shouldn't this match?
* A: CRT2 does not support interlace. Therefore, the driver can't
  feed interlaced output into the video bridge (which handles TV
  output, be it a SiS video bridge, be it a Chrontel TV encoder).
  The video bridge can only convert a progressive scan
  (=non-interlaced) input into TV-suitable interlaced output. The
  driver can neither change this nor control which of the frames
  sent to the bridge is the even/odd field. Long story short: If
  you want to output interlaced material on your TV without using
  a software de-interlacer, you need to add a proper Modeline for
  interlaced PAL/NTSC timing (easily found on the internet) and an
  external VGA-to-TV converter connected to CRT1. Otherwise you
  have to use a software de-interlacer.
You have to acknowledge that is is a Very Bad Thing®. What I said 
about the interlaced material is not entirely true, but the result is 
still not quite useful. Damn bastards @ SiS. Oh well.

Cory, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jeroen has mis-interpreted 
the answer
here.  It does *not* say that TV-OUT does not do interlace mode.  It 
says that
CRT2 doesn't support feeding interlace to the the TV encoder.  That has 
nothing
to do with whether or not TV-OUT then interlaces output.

--
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[mythtv-users] error compiling 0.17 - FC3

2005-02-16 Thread Keith Olsen
When compiling mythtv, I am getting the follwoing error:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libmythavcodec-0.17.so.0.17.0] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/myth1/mythtv-0.17/libs/libavcodec'
make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/myth1/mythtv-0.17/libs'
make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2

I have all the 3.3.3-16 qt packages installed from atrpms.net

what am I missing?

Thanks

Keith

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Re: [mythtv-users] Update on using epia m10000 for a frontend

2005-02-16 Thread Adam Felson
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 18:20 -0700, Adam Felson wrote:
 I tried xine with -V xxmc and it works fine.  Tried to compile mythtv
 with xvmc and the link balks that it can't find the XvMC library.
 Checked /usr/X11R6/lib and it's there:
 # ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC*
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC.so@/usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC.so.1.0*  
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1@
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC.so.1@  /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so@ 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1.0*
 
 /usr/X11R6/lib is in the ld.so.conf file so I don't know what the deal
 is.
 
Some wierdness.  When compiling mythtv with xvmc, I had to edit the
settings.pro file to use /usr/X11R6/lib.  Didn't have to for plain xv.
I also had to add   -lXinerama -lXxf86vm -lXxf86dga on the extra_libs
line.



 Back to xv only for now.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: The death of MythDVD? [RipGuard]

2005-02-16 Thread Craig Partin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:30:21 -0500, Neil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:27:06AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Macrovision plans to unveil technology to block 97% of software used
  to duplicate discs.
 
 If you can write software to block it you can write software to unblock
 it.  This is a futile arms race the that MPAA and RIAA cannot win.
 
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It seems that every few weeks there is a headline on Slashdot about a
revolutionary new DRM scheme that will once and for all end media
piracy.  There will always be a way to circumvent the copy protection.
 Short of outlawing the general purpose computer, or forcing everyone
to a trusted platform in which the chip will refuse to run unsigned
code, no DRM will ever work.
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RE: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Lan User
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Did you even look at that web site?  That project is an 
 add-on to MythWeb to allow streaming of MPEG-2 recorded Myth 
 TV content over the web using VLC.  It has nothing to do with 
 streaming internet radio.
 
 -JAC

Yes, I did look at the website, but I just wan't understanding it, however
now that you and Ryszard have graciously taken the time to explain it to me
I do understand it.

Thanks much,

Patrick.

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RE: [mythtv-users] mythstream

2005-02-16 Thread Herman Kuiper
2.  In regards to version 0.16 of MythStream found here:
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
Is the version number 0.16 just a coincidence and not meant to relate
in anyway to version 0.16 of MythTV?
I don't know if it is coincidence or not, but I'm currently running 
MythStream 0.16 using CVS Myth, so I guess 0.17 wouldn't be a problem.

Herman
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: The death of MythDVD? [RipGuard]

2005-02-16 Thread John Williams
Their deal is to prevent the rapid ripping of the data. If a DVD
plasyer can read it so can a computer or piece of software. Wosrt case
you take as long to rip it as it would take to view it. Some people
would still want to rip it.


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:49:18 -0500, Craig Partin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:30:21 -0500, Neil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:27:06AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Macrovision plans to unveil technology to block 97% of software used
   to duplicate discs.
 
  If you can write software to block it you can write software to unblock
  it.  This is a futile arms race the that MPAA and RIAA cannot win.
 
  --
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 It seems that every few weeks there is a headline on Slashdot about a
 revolutionary new DRM scheme that will once and for all end media
 piracy.  There will always be a way to circumvent the copy protection.
 Short of outlawing the general purpose computer, or forcing everyone
 to a trusted platform in which the chip will refuse to run unsigned
 code, no DRM will ever work.
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Step By Step Upgrade Guide for Debian to 2.6.10 from 2.4.26 [WAS]Smack me if I'm crazy ...

2005-02-16 Thread Jesper Sörensen

Allow recorded stream to be saved in TS as well as PS mode.
I gather this means that there is no planned future support for saving
the stream in TS mode for the HD300 with non dvb drivers and that only
PS mode will be supported for the HD3000 with the non dvb drivers.
 

I'm a DVB guy so I don't know squat about the HD3000 but I believe the 
non-DVB drivers record in TS mode only, i.e. no PS possible. With the 
DVB driver you can do both, but if TS works for you that is preferred.

Can any one point me to a good step by step guide for Debian for
upgrading from 2.4.26 to 2.6.10 so that I can take advantage of the
new DVB drivers so that I can use the HD3000?
 

apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.10-something?
It's probably a good idea to have a fairly recent version (Sarge) of the 
rest of the packages too, especially the module-init-tools and other 
core stuff.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread Thom Paine
On Tue, 2005-15-02 at 19:53 -0600, M S wrote:
 First off... this is not meant to be a flame war and let me say I LOVE
 both the concept of MythTV as well as it's functionality.
 
 I think the biggest thing missing from MythTV is a built in function
 for archiving shows to DVD.  The closest thing I've come to is
 MythBurn, and even for all it offers, it's still lacking some key
 features such as:
 
 1) True integration
 2) Lack of using cutlists (even though someone has wrote a patch to do
 this, it isn't fullproof)
 3) Doesn't convert the mp2 audio into the DVD standard of AC3 audio
 4) Only supposidly works with MPEG2 clips (pvr-x50s)
 5) and more
 
 I have 176GB available for myth recordings and every day I'm having to
 delete a show just to continue to use myth.  I want to archive a large
 percentage of my movies to DVD.  Sure, people can say run this
 command line, then do this, then that... then burn.  NO!  This should
 be an automated procedure with ease and simplicity and no commands
 lines.  It should be able to take a recording, use the cutlists to
 remove commercials, build indexes, and make interactive menus.  It
 should also not involve having to do somethings on one machine, then
 copying to finish off processing on another with the exception of
 possibly saving an iso that can be burned on another machine which has
 a burner.

I think on the amount of DVD's you'd go through, you would be better off
adding drives to your system to increase storage.

Say you can get 2 hours of video on a DVD. But it's packed on to the
myth box and it's only 400M.

I would rather have 500G of storage and then delete shows if I bought
the boxed set, rather than archive everything off to DVD. I regularly
download with bittorrent until I get a myth box running (which is this
weekends project) but if I want to watch season one of Las Vegas, I buy
it to watch. It's convenient to have the files on my hard drive, but the
15G they take up right now will be freed up when I get the box set.

While I know a thing or three about burning in Linux, I have never
created a video or movie disc on my box. I have been using Roxio and
Winders for that, for no particular reason. I also know nothing about
coding, but I am getting better at writing bash scripts. 

If it is possible to do it all that way, you could write a script that
will automagically burn the dvd with the show you specify, but I don't
know if everything can be done from the command line. I certainly know
that you can write the ISO from the commandline, and even build an ISO
from a directory of files, but I'm pretty green when it comes to video.

At the very least, you could buy a commercial PVR, hook the myth output
to the input on the PVR, re-record the show on the PVR and write it to
disc. I know that's not the answer you are looking for, but it's as
helpful as the way you've phrased your frustration about myth.

-=/Thom


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Re: [mythtv-users] UK - Controlling Sky boxes

2005-02-16 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 16/02/05 14:34, Simon Kenyon typed ...
well it doesn't work every time - so there you go!
  :-)

post your wrapper and i'll give it a whirl
also, post your changes to use nanosleep()
  Here goes;  cat'd over SSH and reformatted in case there's anything 
odd in there :-)

  Not sure the locking functions (purloined) are really as tidy as I'd 
want [hence the possibility of rolling it all into one perl script using 
flock()] but it seems to suffice, and be nice  reliable, so for the 
time being, it stays.

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#include unistd.h
#include stdio.h  /* Standard input/output definitions */
#include string.h /* String function definitions */
#include unistd.h /* UNIX standard function definitions */
#include fcntl.h  /* File control definitions */
#include errno.h  /* Error number definitions */
#include asm/ioctls.h
#include asm/termios.h/* POSIX terminal control definitions */
#include time.h

#ifndef COM_PORT
# define COM_PORT   /dev/ttyS0
#endif

#ifndef WAIT_TIME
# define WAIT_TIME  2
#endif

#ifndef DEBUG
# define DEBUG  0
#endif

static int debug = DEBUG;

/* the RTS line is actually the DTR line in linux */
#ifdef linux
# define BIT_TO_TWIDDLE TIOCM_DTR
#else
# define BIT_TO_TWIDDLE TIOCM_RTS
#endif

/*
 * open_port() - Open serial port
 * returns the file descriptor on success or -1 on error
 */
int open_port(char *com_port)
{
  int fd;   /* file descriptor for the port */
  struct termios options;

  fd = open (com_port, O_WRONLY | O_NOCTTY | O_NDELAY);
  if (fd == -1)
  {
/* Could not open the port. */
perror (open_port(): unable to open com port);
exit (-1);
  }
  else
  {
fcntl (fd, F_SETFL, 0);
  }

  /* get the current options for the port */
  tcgetattr (fd, options);

  /* Set the baud rates to 9600 */
  cfsetispeed (options, B9600);
  cfsetospeed (options, B9600);

  /* enable the receiver and set local mode */
  options.c_cflag |= (CLOCAL);
  options.c_cflag = ~PARENB;
  options.c_cflag = ~CSTOPB;
  options.c_cflag = ~CSIZE;
  options.c_cflag |= CS8;
  options.c_cflag = ~CREAD;
  options.c_cflag = ~CRTSCTS;
  options.c_iflag = ~(IXON | IXOFF | IXANY);

  /* set the new options for the port */
  tcsetattr (fd, TCSANOW, options);
  return (fd);
}

void set_rts(int fd)
{
  int status;
  int bitset = BIT_TO_TWIDDLE;
  ioctl (fd, TIOCMGET, status);
  if (debug)
  {
if (status  bitset)
{
  printf(RTS bit is set\n);
}
else
{
  printf(RTS bit is unset\n);
}
  }
  status |= bitset;
  ioctl (fd, TIOCMSET, status);
  ioctl (fd, TIOCMGET, status);
  if (status  bitset)
  {
if (debug) printf(RTS bit set ok\n);
  }
  else
  {
perror(set_rts(): failed to set RTS bit);
exit(-1);
  }
}

int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
  int fd;
  char *com_port = COM_PORT;
  int n;
  char *data;
  int wait_time = WAIT_TIME;

  if (argc == 1 || argc  4)
  {
  printf(usage: digibox codestring [waittime [device]]\n);
  return -1;
  }

  data = argv[1];
  if (argc  2)
  wait_time = atoi(argv[2]);
  if (argc  3)
  com_port = argv[3];

  if (debug) printf(opening port for %s and setting RTS\n, com_port);
  fd = open_port(com_port);
  set_rts (fd);

  /* needed to power up the IR system */
  {
int done = 0;
struct timespec poweruptime;
poweruptime.tv_sec = 0;
poweruptime.tv_nsec = 2000;
while (!done)
{
  int status = nanosleep(poweruptime,poweruptime);
  if (status == 0)
  {
done = 1;
  }
  else if (status == -1)
  {
if (errno != EINTR)
{
  sleep(1);
  done = 1;
}
  }
}
  }

  if (debug) printf(writing data (\%s\) now\n,data);
  n = write (fd, data, strlen (data));
  if (n  0)
  {
perror(main(): write failed);
exit(-1);
  }
  if (debug) printf(data written\n);
  tcdrain (fd);
  if (wait_time  0)
  {
if (debug) printf(sleeping for %d seconds\n,wait_time);
sleep (wait_time);
  }
  if (debug) printf(start close\n);
  close (fd);
  if (debug) printf(finished\n);

  return 0;
}
# irfunctions from skychannel.tar.bz2
# http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/mythtv/lirc/

lockir() {
declare -i count=0
while [ $count -lt 10 ]; do
if mktemp /tmp/irlock 21 /dev/null; then
echo $$  /tmp/irlock
return 0
fi
if ! kill -0 `cat /tmp/irlock` 21 /dev/null; then
rm /tmp/irlock
if mktemp /tmp/irlock 21 /dev/null; then
echo $$  /tmp/irlock
return 0
fi
fi
sleep 1
count=$count+1

Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV on 0.17 - only records half the show

2005-02-16 Thread Eric Werness
Doug Larrick wrote:
Make sure your database is in good shape -- any messages from mysql in
your logs?  It sounds like you're having trouble getting enough data
from the card, which means it's busy doing something else.  If it's not
CPU-bound, it might be I/O bound, maybe due to an error in the database.
There don't seem to be any record-time messages in the mysqld log - just 
one message from when I rebooted about not being able to initialize 
InnoDB. Since both 0.16 and getatsc can record, I don't think it's raw 
bandwidth.

If it were just random stuttering, I'd be more likely to look for perf 
issues, but it records half of the show, which sounds to me like a 
different issue.

Otherwise: Upgrade to a 2.6 kernel?  Use the latest HD-2000 driver you 
can?

When I rebuilt my system around when 0.16 came out, I tried 2.6 with 
very little success (all videos playback stuttered - no obvious reason 
why). Changing the driver is my last resort given how much trouble I've 
had with it in the past, but I may have to try that if nothing else 
comes up...

Thanks,
~Eric
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Thom Paine
On Wed, 2005-16-02 at 11:40 -0400, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
  But also, the price difference is $30 Canadian for me to get either
  card. The 250 is $199 at BestBuy and the 350 is $230 for me from my
 
  Dude,  check out Staples.  They regularly sell the 250's for $149 CDN.

Sweet.

I'll grab one of them as well.

I think I still want the 350.

BestBuy was the only place I've seen them so far.

-=/Thom


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Jeroen Brosens
Michael J. Lynch wrote:
Jeroen Brosens wrote:
snip
I must disappoint you here; first of all I have massive respect to 
Thomas Winischhofer, the developer/maintainer of the X driver for SiS 
chipsets, he has a well documented website on which he elaboralety 
describes every driver option that he squeezed out of the SiS chips. 
In the FAQ however, I only recently stumbled upon this:

* Q: Why does output of interlaced video via TV show a comb-like
  interlace-effect? If the source material is interlaced and the
  TV output is interlaced, shouldn't this match?
* A: CRT2 does not support interlace. Therefore, the driver can't
  feed interlaced output into the video bridge (which handles TV
  output, be it a SiS video bridge, be it a Chrontel TV encoder).
  The video bridge can only convert a progressive scan
  (=non-interlaced) input into TV-suitable interlaced output. The
  driver can neither change this nor control which of the frames
  sent to the bridge is the even/odd field. Long story short: If
  you want to output interlaced material on your TV without using
  a software de-interlacer, you need to add a proper Modeline for
  interlaced PAL/NTSC timing (easily found on the internet) and an
  external VGA-to-TV converter connected to CRT1. Otherwise you
  have to use a software de-interlacer.
You have to acknowledge that is is a Very Bad Thing®. What I said 
about the interlaced material is not entirely true, but the result is 
still not quite useful. Damn bastards @ SiS. Oh well.

Cory, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jeroen has mis-interpreted 
the answer
here.  It does *not* say that TV-OUT does not do interlace mode.  It 
says that
CRT2 doesn't support feeding interlace to the the TV encoder.  That 
has nothing
to do with whether or not TV-OUT then interlaces output.

OK true; of course everything coming out of a TV-out is interlaced, 
nothing doubtful there. But it seems it can't tell field sync etc. from 
the signal that is being fed to the video bridge. And therefore I must 
either use the bob deinterlacer (others suck because they don't give 
full frame rate) but it, well, bobs (vertical jitter due to goin out of 
vsync every now and then). Maybe when my VGA-SCART cable works with X 
everything is sorted, but I will have to find a proper modeline for that.

-- Jeroen
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[mythtv-users] Hauppauge 250/350 Output

2005-02-16 Thread Britt McEachern
I am new to this list, and I'm about to build my first computer, so bear 
with me. I'm looking to get a Hauppauge 250 or 350 (provided I can get 
my hands on one of them).

Just a couple of questions. First, what is the difference in these 
cards? I see that the 350 is more expensive, but I can't tell why. 
Second, if I buy one of these cards, do I also need a video card? I'd 
like to hook this up to my TV (which doesn't have s-video input), or 
maybe a monitor, and I'm hoping I can do that directly from the 
Hauppage, and not have to buy a video card in addition.

Thanks for the help!
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[mythtv-users] Queue commercial flagging on old recordings using .17

2005-02-16 Thread Kelly Reed Schuerman
I had automatic commercial detection turned off under .16 because it
seemed to lock up my system. Now that I've upgraded successfully to .17 it
seems to be working much better. Is there an easy way for me to queue
commercial flagging for all my older recordings?

Thanks,

Sherm   

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Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing aboutMythTV...

2005-02-16 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/16/2005 10:26:59 AM 
On Tue, 2005-15-02 at 19:53 -0600, M S wrote:

snippety snip

Say you can get 2 hours of video on a DVD. But it's packed on 
to the myth box and it's only 400M.

Ok, great.  How much easier is it to bring one of those little 
nylon totes on a trip with a portable DVD player, vs. your 
mythtv setup?  I have a situation where I'll be on a bus 
with 40 high school kids for a minimum of 20 hours next 
week.  The bus has a DVD player.  I'd love to burn a bunch 
of the TV shows I've recorded (The OC, Adult Swim cartoons, 
Simpsons) out to DVDs, and carry them on to the bus in my 
little nylon pouch.  Instead, I'm lugging only movies.
Being able to mix it up with some TV shows that I know 
the kids like would be awesome.

I would rather have 500G of storage and then delete 
shows if I bought the boxed set, rather than archive 
everything off to DVD. 

I agree there...but, I'd keep the shows on the myth box.

I regularly download with bittorrent until I get a myth box 
running (which is this weekends project) but if I want to 
watch season one of Las Vegas, I buy it to watch. It's 
convenient to have the files on my hard drive, but the
15G they take up right now will be freed up when I get the box set.

Not for me...I'd rip the DVDs and make them available for 
me in my family room where I don't have a DVD player, 
but I do have a mythtv frontend...

snipped irrelevant content

If it is possible to do it all that way, you could write a 
script that will automagically burn the dvd with the show 
you specify, but I don't know if everything can be done 
from the command line. I certainly know that you can write 
the ISO from the commandline, and even build an ISO
from a directory of files, but I'm pretty green when it comes 
to video.

If someone writes a burning script from scratch, you can build in 
any kind of menu development in the command line you want.

At the very least, you could buy a commercial PVR, hook the 
myth output to the input on the PVR, re-record the show on 
the PVR and write it to disc. I know that's not the answer you 
are looking for, but it's as helpful as the way you've phrased 
your frustration about myth.

I'd rather give the money I would have spent on a commercial, 
non-expandable, closed source PVR to the developers here, 
in the community I enjoy being a part of.

Paul

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Re: [mythtv-users] Queue commercial flagging on old recordings using .17

2005-02-16 Thread Craig Partin
You can run mythcommflag from the command line.  It will automatically
flag all the shows not marked as previously flagged.


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:08:30 -0600 (CST), Kelly Reed Schuerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had automatic commercial detection turned off under .16 because it
 seemed to lock up my system. Now that I've upgraded successfully to .17 it
 seems to be working much better. Is there an easy way for me to queue
 commercial flagging for all my older recordings?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Problem- Unable to find mythcommflag

2005-02-16 Thread Paul K
OK. I think I see what you mean. I'll have to check that out. Thanks.
I have mythbackend run from my rc.local which is that last thing to
run at boot time but before X starts. And I'm thinking the path is set
before rc.local runs...

  Or maybe you mean there is a variable in mythbackend that needs to
specify /usr/local/bin ??

Sorry for the molasses. I'll catch up someday!...
PK



On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:30:53 -0500, David George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/16/2005 9:32 AM, Paul K wrote:
 
 Well - That's the thread i read, but i thought (think)
 
 if ! strstr $PATH /usr/local/bin ; then
 PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
 fi
 
 
 ... means that if the path DOESN'T include /usr/local/bin that it
 should add it...   ???
 
 
 Correct.
 
   I DO have /usr/local/bin in my path. And i'm not at my Myth box
 right now to try it. :-(
 
 
 You have it in your path, but does backend when it is running have it in
 its path?  If you are starting backend from a startup script it may
 not.  You can check this, but adding an echo $PATH in your backend
 script.  I found this is now needed with FC2 as of a couple of weeks
 ago.  Not sure about other distros.
 
 --
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 vs FX-5200 TVOut

2005-02-16 Thread Jeroen Brosens




Tom Hughes wrote:
snip
  Well I've got a Leadtek Winfast A180BT GeForce MX4000 which is NV18
and the TV encoder on that certainly blows chunks. I'm using a sync
converter on the VGA output to drive a RGB input on the TV now so I
don't care, but when I tried the S-Video output it was horrible.

Tom

  

Tom, I just finished my vga2scart cable, from the circuit as explained
on the site that is linked on the mythtv page of your website (http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/vga2scart/).
Now I have to find the modeline to get a nice image; are you a PAL
user, and if yes, could you explain what you did to get it working
correctly? My tv image is now scrolling up/down and skewing a bit too.
It definately needs the proper tuning, but what could be the best way
to do it? Many thanks,

-- Jeroen


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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge 250/350 Output

2005-02-16 Thread Travis Osterman
 First, what is the difference in these
 cards?

Both have hardware encoding, the 350 has the addition of mpeg decoding
and video out.

 if I buy one of these cards, do I also need a video card?

If you get the 250, yes, you'll need a way to get the picture to a tv
or monitor.  The 350 has tv-out onboard.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge 250/350 Output

2005-02-16 Thread Paul K
  I have the 350. The 250 has the encoder only (Input), 350 has both
encoder and s decoder to output to TV. But you might need a video
card, too. At least temporarily to setup everything. Once setup is
complete, you could remove the video card. It's been awhile, but
depending on where you're at, I got mine at newegg.com. Out of
California, I believe.

Paul


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:06:54 -0500, Britt McEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am new to this list, and I'm about to build my first computer, so bear
 with me. I'm looking to get a Hauppauge 250 or 350 (provided I can get
 my hands on one of them).
 
 Just a couple of questions. First, what is the difference in these
 cards? I see that the 350 is more expensive, but I can't tell why.
 Second, if I buy one of these cards, do I also need a video card? I'd
 like to hook this up to my TV (which doesn't have s-video input), or
 maybe a monitor, and I'm hoping I can do that directly from the
 Hauppage, and not have to buy a video card in addition.
 
 Thanks for the help!
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Queue commercial flagging on old recordings using .17

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Craig Partin wrote:
You can run mythcommflag from the command line.  It will automatically
flag all the shows not marked as previously flagged.
 

And you can also run with --force and other options to rescan all your 
shows if you wanted to take advantage of the new All detection method 
if it worked better than previous detections for you.

Kevin
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