[PAYCO] Fw: African tweeted: Not many countries {Globally} can touch South Africa with hosting big events @DIRCO_ZA @ClaysonMonyela @Brand_SA @AUSummit
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[PAYCO] FW: List of BANKS OWNED by the ROTHSCHILD FAMILY
Hulisani Mmbara 082 593 3012 (Cell) 086 690 1176 (Fax) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:02:32 -0400 From: amene...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: List of BANKS OWNED by the ROTHSCHILD FAMILY -Original Message- From: Cpohio1940 cpohio1...@aol.com To: cpohio1940 cpohio1...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2015 2:33 pm Subject: List of BANKS OWNED by the ROTHSCHILD FAMILY From: m...@s3alpha.net Reply-to: do-not-re...@s3alpha.net To: cpohio1...@aol.com Sent: 6/2/2015 10:11:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: List of Banks owned by the Rothschild family By The Event Chronicle on June 1, 2015 “Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws” – Baron M.A. Rothschild ROTHSCHILD OWNED BANKS: Afghanistan: Bank of Afghanistan Albania: Bank of Albania Algeria: Bank of Algeria Argentina: Central Bank of Argentina Armenia: Central Bank of Armenia Aruba: Central Bank of Aruba Australia: Reserve Bank of Australia Austria: Austrian National Bank Azerbaijan: Central Bank of Azerbaijan Republic Bahamas: Central Bank of The Bahamas Bahrain: Central Bank of Bahrain Bangladesh: Bangladesh Bank Barbados: Central Bank of Barbados Belarus: National Bank of the Republic of Belarus Belgium: National Bank of Belgium Belize: Central Bank of Belize Benin: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) Bermuda: Bermuda Monetary Authority Bhutan: Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan Bolivia: Central Bank of Bolivia Bosnia: Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana: Bank of Botswana Brazil: Central Bank of Brazil Bulgaria: Bulgarian National Bank Burkina Faso: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) Burundi: Bank of the Republic of Burundi Cambodia: National Bank of Cambodia Came Roon: Bank of Central African States Canada: Bank of Canada – Banque du Canada * Cayman Islands: Cayman Islands Monetary Authority Central African Republic: Bank of Central African States Chad: Bank of Central African States Chile: Central Bank of Chile China: The People’s Bank of China Colombia: Bank of the Republic Comoros: Central Bank of Comoros Congo: Bank of Central African States Costa Rica: Central Bank of Costa Rica Côte d’Ivoire: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) Croatia: Croatian National Bank Cuba: Central Bank of Cuba Cyprus: Central Bank of Cyprus Czech Republic: Czech National Bank Denmark: National Bank of Denmark Dominican Republic: Central Bank of the Dominican Republic East Caribbean area: Eastern Caribbean Central Bank Ecuador: Central Bank of Ecuador Egypt: Central Bank of Egypt El Salvador: Central Reserve Bank of El Salvador Equatorial Guinea: Bank of Central African States Estonia: Bank of Estonia Ethiopia: National Bank of Ethiopia European Union: European Central Bank Fiji: Reserve Bank of Fiji Finland: Bank of Finland France: Bank of France Gabon: Bank of Central African States The Gambia: Central Bank of The Gambia Georgia: National Bank of Georgia Germany: Deutsche Bundesbank Ghana: Bank of Ghana Greece: Bank of Greece Guatemala: Bank of Guatemala Guinea Bissau: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) Guyana: Bank of Guyana Haiti: Central Bank of Haiti Honduras: Central Bank of Honduras Hong Kong: Hong Kong Monetary Authority Hungary: Magyar Nemzeti Bank Iceland: Central Bank of Iceland India: Reserve Bank of India Indonesia: Bank Indonesia Iran: The Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran Iraq: Central Bank of Iraq Ireland: Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland Israel: Bank of Israel Italy: Bank of Italy Jamaica: Bank of Jamaica Japan: Bank of Japan Jordan: Central Bank of Jordan Kazakhstan: National Bank of Kazakhstan Kenya: Central Bank of Kenya Korea: Bank of Korea Kuwait: Central Bank of Kuwait Kyrgyzstan: National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic Latvia: Bank of Latvia Lebanon: Central Bank of Lebanon Lesotho: Central Bank of Lesotho Libya: Central Bank of Libya (Most Recently Added) Uruguay: Central Bank of Uruguay Lithuania: Bank of Lithuania Luxembourg: Central Bank of Luxembourg Macao: Monetary Authority of Macao Macedonia: National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia Madagascar: Central Bank of Madagascar Malawi: Reserve Bank of Malawi Malaysia: Central Bank of Malaysia Mali: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) Malta: Central Bank of Malta Mauritius: Bank of Mauritius Mexico: Bank of Mexico Moldova: National Bank of Moldova Mongolia: Bank of Mongolia Montenegro: Central Bank of Montenegro Morocco: Bank of Morocco Mozambique: Bank of
[PAYCO] Fw: Now target FIFA on Twitter
kind Regards,
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Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:57:10
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Subject: Now target FIFA on Twitter
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Dear Mphiri,
Thank you for calling on FIFA to tackle the modern slavery that is fuelling
the Qatar 2022 World Cup.
In the next few hours, we have an important window of opportunity to really
keep the pressure up on FIFA before the organisation elects its President.
Sepp Blatter is hoping to hold on for another term but Prince Ali bin
al-Hussein from Jordan is challenging his leadership. We think the next FIFA
president should be someone who will prioritise ending slavery on World Cup
construction sites -- and we think you'll agree.
Can you take a moment to send a message to the FIFA Congress on Twitter asking
them to use their vote wisely to help end slavery on World Cup construction
sites in Qatar?
http://www.ituc-csi.org/?page=tweetyamp;id_camp=586amp;lang=en
Thank you for all that you do,
The Walk Free team
P.S. If you’re not on Twitter, please forward the message below:
Hi,
Right now FIFA is under intense scrutiny -- several officials have just been
arrested on corruption charges and the football body is about to elect its new
President. This could be our chance to get the organisation to take ending
slavery on Qatar World Cup construction sites seriously.
Please join me in sending a message demanding action:
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[PAYCO] Fw: list of co-ordinators
kind Regards, Mphiri Masoga SACWU PTA Tel : 012 320 6472 Fax : 012 320 2179 Fax2Email: 0862254254 Cell : 0731822656 -Original Message- From: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:15:41 To: mphi...@gmail.com Subject: FW: list of co-ordinators Revolutionary Greetings , Please receive a list of Co-ordinators Ekurhuleni- Silas083 359 2413, Mazibuko083 5393 319. Vaal- Brian071 912 1650,Poppy-0710200849. West Rand-Happy-0833977756, Timothy-0764360896 Tshwane- Mokoena-0725492145,Thabo 0815526802 Cape Town - Tera-0766088911/071 4425816 Limpopo- Phala-0823941627 Eastern Cape- Gocwana-0833782387 North West- Tshakane- 0725185942 Mpumalanga-Maoka-0725183827 Izwe Lethu -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[PAYCO] FW: [New post] Robert Sobukwe Memorial Lecture
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:03:51 + To: mmbar...@hotmail.com From: donotre...@wordpress.com Subject: [New post] Robert Sobukwe Memorial Lecture WordPress.com Dzumbu Mmbara posted: Izwe Lethu! You are invited to the Robert Sobukwe Memorial Lecture scheduled as follows: Date: 20 February 2015 Venue: Building 15 (Room G5) Time: 16H30 Speakers: Cadre John Trible (AAPRP) Cadre Lunga Mantashe (PASMA President For more information cont New post on mayihlomenews.co.za Robert Sobukwe Memorial Lecture by Dzumbu Mmbara
[PAYCO] FW: [New post] MAYIHLOME NEWS 2014 ANNUAL REPORT
WordPress.com Mayihlome posted: In 2014, there were 36 new articles, bringing the total number of articles posted on Mayihlome News to 231. The busiest day of the year was 2 January 2014 with 2,874 views. The most popular article that day was EUROPE IS BLACKMAILING AFRICA TO GO HOM Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on Mayihlome News MAYIHLOME NEWS 2014 ANNUAL REPORT by Mayihlome
[PAYCO] FW: WWMP E-Newsletter 26 September 2014/Workers World weekly labour show on SAFM this week and more labour news
From: Workers' World Media Productions [mailto:Lynn=wwmp.org...@mail180.wdc02.mcdlv.net] On Behalf Of Workers' World Media Productions Sent: 26 September 2014 12:58 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com Subject: WWMP E-Newsletter 26 September 2014/Workers World weekly labour show on SAFM this week and more labour news https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/a7ed4ae8-565e-47fd-a2d0-958ad4a354ca.jpg E-NEWS BULLETIN FRIDAY 26 SEPTEMBER 2014 Labour news you cannot afford to miss https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/f8864bc5-4f93-4f3e-8776-9f559c043258.jpg Workers on Wednesday on SAfm Bargaining Council Wage Agreements We look at the extension of bargaining council agreements. Over the past several years there have been objections to this practice by certain employers, particularly small businesses who view it as unfair and harmful to them. GUESTS 1. Trenton Elsley - Director; Labour Research Service 2. Leon Louw - Executive Director; Free Market Foundation Click here to listen: http://wwmp.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=091fdc1b7ce=885bfac6a0 http://iono Tune in on Wednesday 1 October for our discussion on Retail and Wholesale workers Decent working conditions? ▶ POLITICS ◘ MIDDLE EAST 1. US police get anti terror training in Israel on privately funded trips 2. The Israeli offensive on Gaza caused full or partial damages to 75 kindergartens and day-care centers 3. Tampa activists protest ZIM cargo lines to showcase Israeli civil rights violations 4. Lipman visits South African Parliament ◘ INTERNATIONAL 1. Turkish President's Allies Increasing Pressure on Times and Reporter 2. Racist SWAT Killings 3. NATO intends to prohibit Russia’s and China’s Development 4. Forum On Richmond Progressive Alliance, Workers And Marxism ◘ SOUTH AFRICA 1. Cyril Ramaphosa's Lonmin tax-dodge headache ▶ LABOUR 1. Washington Post announces cuts to employees’ retirement benefits 2. Project MUNIN aims to make robot ships a reality 3. One Chinese train driver's fight for justice on social media ▶ MEDIA AND COMMUNICATION 1. This Time We Say Do Something,Next Time We Say We Want Everything https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/b22bc6f4-db66-4fad-a4a3-f6c82b904648.jpg US police get anti terror training in Israel on privately funded trips By ALI WINSTON The clouds of tear gas, flurries of projectiles and images of police officers outfitted in military-grade hardware in Ferguson, Missouri, have reignited concerns about the militarization of domestic law enforcement in the United States. ►read more here... http://wwmp.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=a6add6111be=885bfac6a0 https://bet https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/6efc09e1-1dd3-441b-bcc2-f9a7a02fa039.jpg The Israeli offensive on Gaza caused full or partial damages to 75 kindergartens and day-care centers The Democracy and Workers’ Rights Center field teams have documented full or partial damages to 75 kindergartens and day-care centers caused during the 51 day Israeli offensive against the Gaza Strip this summer. ►read more here... http://wwmp.us5.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=a2a04bb752e=885bfac6a0 http://pal https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/b5ae9ed2-f1d1-4298-a540-fc85ce4db770.jpg Tampa activists protest ZIM cargo lines to showcase Israeli civil rights violations By DEZEREY LYN In the early hours of Saturday morning, September 20th, activists from nearly a dozen organizations converged at the entrance way to the Port of Tampa to protest the incoming ZIM Alabama as Israel’s largest cargo shipping company. ►read more here... http://wwmp.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=dfc543a371e=885bfac6a0 http://the https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/fe2d1f19-05cd-4e7e-944f-3755499be0a4.jpeg Lipman visits South African Parliament By GILL HOFFMAN Yesh Atid MK Dov Lipman became the first member of Knesset to visit the South African Parliament in more than five years over the weekend. ►read more here... http://wwmp.us5.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=ca20453123e=885bfac6a0 http://www.jpo https://gallery.mailchimp.com/3814ed901507211a779e9b4ac/images/53cedac3-a26b-4450-99f8-f3c43090297a.jpg Turkish President's Allies Increasing Pressure on Times and Reporter By RICK GLADSTONE Turkey's president and his supporters have been denouncing The New York Times and one of its Istanbul correspondents with growing furor for the past three days... ►read more here... http://wwmp.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3814ed901507211a779e9b4acid=2cb11fc8c5e=885bfac6a0 http://www.nyt
RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Izwe lethu Thanks Bra Mike, “Anyone can change. Love yourself, love one another, unite and you shall be a strong Party” Izwe lethu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi I Choose no-one, however all PAC members as comrades in struggle for the African Emancipation! From: Michael Muendane [mailto:m...@soultalk.co.za] Sent: 11 September 2014 10:13 PM To: 'Mbulelo Raymond'; 'Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi' Cc: po...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; jntab...@gmail.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; znyam...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; i...@bataufc.com; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; monyanepin...@gmail.com; ad...@pac.org.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; dud...@webmail.co.za; lea...@hotmail.com; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; richardma...@yahoo.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; mnd...@yahoo.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; tnta...@webmail.co.za; aplamv...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; vemahla...@gmail.com; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; pac.nc...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; dumisani...@gmail.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; s...@pac.org.za; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; wgaj...@gmail.com; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference There is one stubborn truth that most people do not realise and it is this: “You cannot give anybody something that you do not have. You must have it first. If you do not have love, you can never give love to anybody. Likewise, when you give a positive a label ( description or attribute) to someone else, it means you also possess that attribute. When you attribute or ascribe a certain negative trait, attribute, quality or tendency to another person, you do that because you possess that trait, attribute, quality or tendency yourself, otherwise how would you recognise it in others?” Anyone can change. Love yourself, love one another, unite and you shall be a strong Party. Izwe lethu. Ngila Muendane. From: Mbulelo Raymond [mailto:mrfihl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:15 PM To: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Cc: po...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; jntab...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; znyam...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; i...@bataufc.com; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; monyanepin...@gmail.com; ad...@pac.org.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; dud...@webmail.co.za; lea...@hotmail.com; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; richardma...@yahoo.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; mnd...@yahoo.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; tnta...@webmail.co.za; aplamv...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; vemahla...@gmail.com; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; pac.nc...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; dumisani...@gmail.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; s...@pac.org.za; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; wgaj...@gmail.com; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference M'Afrika Nkrumah please poqo I am begging you, let us leave this matter because it adds no value to the future of the PAC. FIHLA On 11 Sep 2014 6:59 PM, Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Conrade Fihla You are deliberately distorting everything I wrote and argued. It is evident you are personalising issues and also driving a character assasination. You have dismally failed to prove your claims that I did
[PAYCO] Fw: Evil Judiciary Strikes Again
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: The NewERA ad...@newera.neweracomms.co.za Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:18:52 To: mphi...@gmail.com Reply-To: ad...@newera.org.za Subject: Evil Judiciary Strikes Again Hi Mphiri Masoga To quote Lord of the Rings, there is a darkness in our judiciary system that does not sleep. People are being physically attacked in their homes by minions of the dark forces. A few weeks ago, we linked to the story about a woman who was attacked in her home by both the Sheriff and employees of KPMG (read it here: http://news.acts.co.za/blog/2014/07/cape-farmer-launches-r10-million-damages-suit-against-liquidators-after-home-invasion [1]). This article spread across Facebook and social media like wildfire, as well it should. Well, the same woman's husband was recently attacked... again. He was told to stop standing up for his rights and to hand over his property or else. You need to understand something Mphiri Masoga - the judiciary is perceived by the public to be a bastion of justice. This is not true. There is no justice because our courts have been turned into sick, twisted cartels in cahoots with sheriffs, lawyers, liquidators and other greedy thugs. We have watched judges so biased, that people in the Court watching from the gallery have burst into tears. We have seen Judges pull out judgments from their file, pre-written by third parties, and read them out without even listening to the evidence. Forged Court Orders are now commonplace. Always the bank or the corporation wins. The real human being being gets hammered. These are things you won't hear about in the ordinary press. However, more and more people, like the Oberholsters who were attacked in the articles above, are standing their ground. They have launched People Against Lawyers and Liquidation which you can support here: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15716548975 [2]. There are also other Internet groups and communities popping up against corruption all over South Africa. We'll share more of these with you over the coming months. If there is one thing that the dark forces do not like, it is when enough people take a stand against them. Please support people who take a stand. THE NEW ECONOMIC RIGHTS ALLIANCE Please keep your details updated here This e-mail has been sent to mphi...@gmail.com from NewERA using an email, sms, fax and web integration tool called Majestic [3]. Not only is your data kept behind a secure firewall facility, but your data will not be sold, rented or given away to any third party without your express permission. If you receive communication using Majestic that you feel breaches ethical marketing standards, you can lodge a formal complaint by clicking here [4] and Majestic will investigate the matter. Click here to unsubscribe from all future e-mails from NewERA. Visit http://newera.neweracomms.co.za/view.php?click=1id=fcdb39df19b15f67 to view this e-mail online. Links: -- [1] http://news.acts.co.za/blog/2014/07/cape-farmer-launches-r10-million-damages-suit-against-liquidators-after-home-invasion [2] https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15716548975 [3] http://newera.neweracomms.co.za/link/majestic/ [4] http://newera.neweracomms.co.za/link/majestic/complaints -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Good Morning M'Afrika Mashilo Clearly you have made your decision to Boycott the conference so you are within your Rights to do so as much as you are entitled to your opinion. Please let's respect decision of those who are prepared to make efforts to re - build the PAC. We all agree that the PAC must Unite and come with a programme that will change the Status Quo and challenge the System on Pan Africanist perspective. I am not sure if your Branch or you as an individual is in good standing or is the one that you refer to when you make a mention of Unity of those who left PAC and those of PAM which you seem passionate about. PAM is a registered Political Party and is a Legal Persona and should not be a determining Factor when we are suppose to hold a Conference to redirect the PAC, as we move and on, we will differ on methods of how to take the PAC forward. Those who left PAC did so Voluntarily and I know a few that are back in the PAC and are active. Comrade Ray I am personally not pleased with your BOYCOTT CONFERENCE Campaign, it is growing tension and promote dis unity. You are contradicting yourself by condemning those who differ with you, failing to convince them does not necessarily mean you have to use knuckle dusters Boycott Conference. We are continuing Son of Soil with or without those who differ with us. Caucus 13/09/14 then Conference in Bloemfontein 27-28/09/14. IAfrika Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:25:52 To: 'Mbuyiselo Kantso'mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: 'Ndade Mxunya'mnd...@yahoo.com; 'Kutie Thondlana'kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'mrfihla08'mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; 'Admin @ Pac'ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; 'eddie mfulwane'rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; 'Xola Tyamzashe'tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; 'Phumzile Nomnga'phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; 'Sbusiso Xaba'sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; 'L Lekgwathi'0825164...@vodamail.co.za; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Nakaphala Bauba'nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; 'justice mvakali'mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Shango lashu M’Afrika PAC branches and members should not harbour any illusions, Birchwood 2013 National Conference organised by the same NEC comrades organising the Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference, has dismally failed to unite PAC and place all PAC branches and members on a unity-and-revolutionary path. Birchwood 2013 National Conference has deepened divisions and sowed conflict among PAC members and branches in a manner never seen in the history of the PAC, Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference will continue to consolidate a highly divided PAC with an untenable organisational state. Boycott and denounce Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference! Boycott! Unite and Defeat factionalism PAC branches and members! Unite! Forward to an Inclusive and Uniting PAC Conference! Forward Borrowing the comments made by former Chairman John Nyathi Pokela for all of us PAC Branches and members to reflect and ponder from Cde Muendane and Cde Ndima, PAC Chairman John Nyathi Pokela when he said One of the greatest leaders of this organisation, Nyathi Pokela, is on record as having said that if we go to a conference divided, we shall come out of it even more divided. To defeat factionalism and divisions, It is my strongest believe that PAC branches and members must achieve principled unity. And those former PAC members who left PAC to form PAM must return to the PAC, those PAC members who were suspended should also return to the PAC; We must jointly and equally wage the struggle
RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
...@gmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; mop...@pac.org.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; s...@pac.org.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pac.nc...@gmail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; 'APLAMVA WESTERN CAPE'; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; 'Vusi Mahlangu' Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference M'Afrika Nkrumah, with due respect son of the soil, I would not like us to engage in rhetoric. All I was responding to are your unfounded sweeping statements based on conjecture. You know nothing or very little about what is happening concerning our comrades in prison. Hence I am inviting you to join me at your earliest convince on a visit to Boksburg prison.To quote what you wrote, we have imprisoned former APLA combatants, no action is taken to demand the release of incarcerated APLA combatants. You go even further to say None of the two existing APLAMVA NEC s have been seen in action demanding the immediate release of these comrades. But today, APLAMVA NEC comrades have a moral ground to point finger and identify failures of the PAC NEC members. I find the extent of most comrades as being hypocrits. I am not sure what it is that I am misunderstanding in this sweeping and judgemental statement. What you are actually saying here is that you are the only one who has a high moral ground to point a finger at the wrongs of the NEC members. To you, the rest of us except yourself are hypocrites and therefore have no right to participate in debates about PAC issues. You unfortunately when you have not visited any of these comrades in prison and you instead want to use their plight for political point scoring. My advice to you son of the soil is that instead of wright ing about the comrades in prison, please visit them, please go there and support them. For your information, I will as I am always doing, be visiting the comrades in Boksburg prison this weekend. Accept my regards Fihla Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Date:10/09/2014 10:41 (GMT+02:00) To: 'Mbulelo Raymond' , payco@googlegroups.com Cc: nnyq...@gmail.com, kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, i...@bataufc.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, wgaj...@gmail.com, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphah...@eskom.co.za, tnta...@webmail.co.za, dud...@webmail.co.za, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, mbuyigan...@yahoo.com, znyam...@gmail.com, mnd...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com, payco@googlegroups.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, bulanng...@gmail.com, m...@soultalk.co.za, monyanepin...@gmail.com, ad...@pac.org.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, lea...@hotmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, po...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dumisani...@gmail.com, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, jntab...@gmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, mop...@pac.org.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, s...@pac.org.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, digashuma...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pac.nc...@gmail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, njabulo.m...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, 'APLAMVA WESTERN CAPE' , kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, mrfihl...@gmail.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, s...@pac.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek
RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Comrade Masoga Do not personalise the issues raised by attack me in person address issues raised directly. If there is justification to attend Bloemfontein September National Conference constructively share with us and persuade to attend! We have presented a political case that drawing from Birchwood and other events that instead of unity of PAC, we have seen Birchwood 2013 Conference deepening divisions and the high rate of disintegration of PAC! Hence, any parallel structure organising parallel events solidifies internal party feuding, factionalism therefore disintegration of the PAC. First aspect I am a paid up PAC member belonging to a branch; Secondly aspect, This is an open campaign against events which aims to further divisions and the disintegration of the PAC, like Birchwood 2013 Conference; Thirdly aspect, we must seek to re-mobilise all PAC members and branches under one roof, if former PAC comrades who formed PAM agree to return to PAC and form part of the process to rebuild and re-organise PAC, why should they be excluded? Fourth aspect, the Boycott the Bloemfontein Conference aims at defeating factionalism and mobilise PAC branches and members to an inclusive unifying national conference of PAC; Fifth aspect, I have not condemn any comrades who advocates any differing view, if there is please specify his/her name! Sixth aspect, We encourage and mobilise PAC branches and members to start unification process by organising inclusive regional and provincial meetings to defeat factionalism and disunity! Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mphi...@gmail.com Sent: 11 September 2014 11:12 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' Cc: 'Ndade Mxunya'; 'Kutie Thondlana'; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'mrfihla08'; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; 'Admin @ Pac'; wgaj...@gmail.com; 'eddie mfulwane'; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; 'Tumediso Modise'; 'Xola Tyamzashe'; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; Simphiwe Nofuma; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; 'Phumzile Nomnga'; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xaba; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; generalsecret...@sacwu.org.za Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Good Morning M'Afrika Mashilo Clearly you have made your decision to Boycott the conference so you are within your Rights to do so as much as you are entitled to your opinion. Please let's respect decision of those who are prepared to make efforts to re - build the PAC. We all agree that the PAC must Unite and come with a programme that will change the Status Quo and challenge the System on Pan Africanist perspective. I am not sure if your Branch or you as an individual is in good standing or is the one that you refer to when you make a mention of Unity of those who left PAC and those of PAM which you seem passionate about. PAM is a registered Political Party and is a Legal Persona and should not be a determining Factor when we are suppose to hold a Conference to redirect the PAC, as we move and on, we will differ on methods of how to take the PAC forward. Those who left PAC did so Voluntarily and I know a few that are back in the PAC and are active. Comrade Ray I am personally not pleased with your BOYCOTT CONFERENCE Campaign, it is growing tension and promote dis unity. You are contradicting yourself by condemning those who differ with you, failing to convince them does not necessarily mean you have to use knuckle dusters Boycott Conference. We are continuing Son of Soil with or without those who differ with us. Caucus 13/09/14 then Conference in Bloemfontein 27-28/09/14. IAfrika Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device _ From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:25:52 +0200 To: 'Mbuyiselo Kantso'mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: 'Ndade Mxunya'mnd...@yahoo.com; 'Kutie Thondlana'kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'mrfihla08'mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; 'Admin @ Pac'ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; 'eddie mfulwane'rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; 'Xola Tyamzashe'tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc
Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Comrade Masoga Do not display arrogance if you are serious about unity in the PAC, the statement you made that is We are continuing Son of Soil with or without those who differ with us.. It is a sign of arrogance and it further create us and them. No-one bedevilled you when you were organising a National Caucus, then respect other comrades views and proposals. Izwe lethu Ndima On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning M'Afrika Mashilo Clearly you have made your decision to Boycott the conference so you are within your Rights to do so as much as you are entitled to your opinion. Please let's respect decision of those who are prepared to make efforts to re - build the PAC. We all agree that the PAC must Unite and come with a programme that will change the Status Quo and challenge the System on Pan Africanist perspective. I am not sure if your Branch or you as an individual is in good standing or is the one that you refer to when you make a mention of Unity of those who left PAC and those of PAM which you seem passionate about. PAM is a registered Political Party and is a Legal Persona and should not be a determining Factor when we are suppose to hold a Conference to redirect the PAC, as we move and on, we will differ on methods of how to take the PAC forward. Those who left PAC did so Voluntarily and I know a few that are back in the PAC and are active. Comrade Ray I am personally not pleased with your BOYCOTT CONFERENCE Campaign, it is growing tension and promote dis unity. You are contradicting yourself by condemning those who differ with you, failing to convince them does not necessarily mean you have to use knuckle dusters Boycott Conference. We are continuing Son of Soil with or without those who differ with us. Caucus 13/09/14 then Conference in Bloemfontein 27-28/09/14. IAfrika Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- *From: * Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:25:52 +0200 *To: *'Mbuyiselo Kantso'mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com *Cc: *'Ndade Mxunya'mnd...@yahoo.com; 'Kutie Thondlana' kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'mrfihla08' mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; 'Admin @ Pac' ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; 'eddie mfulwane' rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; 'Xola Tyamzashe' tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; 'Phumzile Nomnga'phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; 'Sbusiso Xaba' sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; 'L Lekgwathi'0825164...@vodamail.co.za; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Nakaphala Bauba'nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; 'justice mvakali'mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com *Subject: *RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Shango lashu M’Afrika PAC branches and members should not harbour any illusions, *Birchwood 2013 National Conference* organised by the same NEC comrades organising the *Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference*, *has dismally failed to unite PAC and place all PAC branches and members on a unity-and-revolutionary path*. Birchwood 2013 National Conference has deepened divisions and sowed conflict among PAC members and branches in a manner never seen in the history of the PAC, *Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference* will continue to consolidate a highly divided PAC with an untenable organisational state. Boycott and denounce *Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference! * *Boycott!* *Unite and Defeat factionalism PAC branches and members!* * Unite!* *Forward to an Inclusive and Uniting PAC Conference!* *Forward * Borrowing the comments made by former Chairman John Nyathi Pokela for all of us PAC Branches and members to reflect and ponder from Cde Muendane and Cde Ndima, PAC Chairman John Nyathi Pokela
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Greetings Cdes We have to accept and realise from all our points of conviction that the same area of convergence will be our first victory. Speculations and insecurities about the intentions of one or the other are probably our biggest obstacle. Open palm salute! On Tue, 9/9/14, Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference To: mbuyigan...@yahoo.com, mnd...@yahoo.com, payco@googlegroups.com Cc: kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, mrfihl...@gmail.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, s...@pac.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com, njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, dumisani...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2014, 6:34 PM Izwe lethu Once more, this debate further confirms that the September National Conference will not resolve the deepened level of feuding within the PAC, it will however worsen the situation and things cam be irreversible or untenable. For long in the PAC, PAC members and branches have being victims of two tongued characters! For example, PAC branches and members across all regions are highly divided and some are hiding their subjective interests using, statements such as this NEC member or that NEC has failed and did this or that! I strongly believe that in as much as Cde Letlapa, Cde Mpethi and Cde Moloto, might have made serious political blunders/errors, they cannot be made to be 100% liable for the entire divisions and feuding thus factionalism in the PAC. Another example, there is a PAC PEC Member in Mpumalanga organising non-members to complete forms and increase numbers for the September National Conference, are we going to blame the put this corrupt activities on either Moloto NEC Grouping for this while exanorating and calling the very same Mpumalanga PEC member a comrade. There are many examples, we can use to show that deeply, the PAC branches and members particularly comrades who are at the forefront of everything to be directly responsible and are hypocrites. We have imprisoned former APLA combatants, no action is taken to demand the release of Incarcerated APLA combatants. Surely comrades, neither Cde Letlapa nor Cde Mpethi nor Cde Moloto is stopping your branches and members to picket and organise mass protests demanding the immediate release of all the unprisoned APLA conrades. None of the two existing APLAMVA NECs have been seen in action demanding tye release of these comrades, but today APLAMVA NEC comrades have a moral ground to point finger and identify failers of the PAC NEC Members. I find the extent of most comrades as being hypocrits, as shocking and also this explains the deep seated problems we are facing in the PAC. All PECs and RECs including all component structures are docile, dormant and moribound, relatively excluding PASMA with a serious qualification! There are and has been so many caucases ever since 2007/8 to date, but every caucuse have yielded no tangible results but the situation has worsened because the current crop of some PAC members and those with leadeship ambitions are highly unprincipled and determined to break any law just to secure positions be they at the REC, PEC and NEC. PAC Branches and members have abondaned principles and the correct political line as enshrined in the 1959 Pan Africanist Manifesto including all Basic Documents. A lot in the party is from branch level to members to national leadership is totally wrong and rotten! Gone are the principles in the PAC, as others argue to justify their conduct they claim that people do eat principles. First task should be PAC
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Comrades, Can we elavate the level of discourse to focus on broader party building issues as opposed to narrow individual interests, personalities and factional positions. To a certain extent you reach a point of embarrassment when you follow the line of debate. Its even worse when its done by seasoned party cadres whom we have utmost respect and expect nothing other than guidance and decisive leadership. I humbly request cadres. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress payco@googlegroups.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:59:52 To: mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; mnd...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Greetings Cdes We have to accept and realise from all our points of conviction that the same area of convergence will be our first victory. Speculations and insecurities about the intentions of one or the other are probably our biggest obstacle. Open palm salute! On Tue, 9/9/14, Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference To: mbuyigan...@yahoo.com, mnd...@yahoo.com, payco@googlegroups.com Cc: kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, mrfihl...@gmail.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, s...@pac.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com, njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, dumisani...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2014, 6:34 PM Izwe lethu Once more, this debate further confirms that the September National Conference will not resolve the deepened level of feuding within the PAC, it will however worsen the situation and things cam be irreversible or untenable. For long in the PAC, PAC members and branches have being victims of two tongued characters! For example, PAC branches and members across all regions are highly divided and some are hiding their subjective interests using, statements such as this NEC member or that NEC has failed and did this or that! I strongly believe that in as much as Cde Letlapa
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feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *Sent:* 04 September 2014 12:42 PM *To:* Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za *Cc:* mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An *All Inclusive* *Consultative Conference* may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote: Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu I note that name calling and castigation of characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing in Moloto today. Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of campaigning during the past elections, we were busy promoting our factional interests, taking each other to court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary behavior that does not take us anywhere. All
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...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote: Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu I note that name calling and castigation of characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing in Moloto today. Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of campaigning during the past elections, we were busy promoting our factional interests, taking each other to court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary behavior that does not take us anywhere. All we need now is genuine solutions to the PAC problems. Factional statements and campaigns will not take us anywhere. For now, Moloto remains secretary general of the PAC, all the noises we can make against him will not help. The reality also here is that some of us are not genuine, we are not fighting Moloto because we have the interests of the PAC at heart. We are fighting Moloto because we are pushing factional interests. My proposal is that let us identify those aspects that can help us to unite the PAC instead of engaging in useless muddling. Fihla Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Mbuyiselo Kantso Date:04/09/2014 08:41 (GMT+02:00) To: payco@googlegroups.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p
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and its component structures. I never see such a big organization moving entirely backwards while having a lot of intelligent comrades. Seemingly we will spend another 20 years revolving in courts struggles and character assassination programs. Let us say somebody recommends what needs to be done, Who is that body? Are we going to listen to that somebody? How long are we going to listen as PAC members? All what we spend time doing is to check who says what and we attack. The main issue here is not the party objective but personal objectives that have clouded the PAC Program. Super views which could have fixed the PAC were long cast out and thrown out of the table and nothing is learned by us as members. Mphahlele is out but the problem is still there in the PAC, now recently Mphethi is out but there is still a problem. What I can conclude now is that maybe all of us need to be out of PAC to allow PAC to grow, who else must be out of PAC for PAC to get it right? Regards, Thabani Zondo Tel : 072 020 5127 smollzo...@gmail.com HEAD OFFICE CENTENARY BUILDING CHURCH SQUARE PRETORIA 0001 TEL: 012 323 9892 FAX: 086 617 7851 PO BOX 5981 PRETORIA 0001 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: M’Afrika I fully agree with M’Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC branches and members at an inclusive national conference. There is no attack on the party’s annual conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah From:payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] Sent: 04 September 2014 12:42 PM To: Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za Cc: mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known
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...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote: Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu I note that name calling and castigation of characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing in Moloto today. Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of campaigning during the past elections, we were busy promoting our factional interests, taking each other to court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary behavior that does not take us anywhere. All we need now is genuine solutions to the PAC problems. Factional statements and campaigns will not take us anywhere. For now, Moloto remains secretary general of the PAC, all the noises we can make against him will not help. The reality also here is that some of us are not genuine, we are not fighting Moloto because we have the interests of the PAC at heart. We are fighting Moloto because we are pushing factional interests. My proposal is that let us identify those aspects that can help us to unite the PAC instead of engaging in useless muddling. Fihla Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Mbuyiselo Kantso Date:04/09/2014 08:41 (GMT+02:00) To: payco@googlegroups.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i
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Izwe Lethu The honest truth is that in PAC everyone speaks a lot of things here in media while doing nothing at all for the community or masses of Azania. Personally I am of the view that only cowards are within the rank and file of the PAC and its component structures. I never see such a big organization moving entirely backwards while having a lot of intelligent comrades. Seemingly we will spend another 20 years revolving in courts struggles and character assassination programs. Let us say somebody recommends what needs to be done, Who is that body? Are we going to listen to that somebody? How long are we going to listen as PAC members? All what we spend time doing is to check who says what and we attack. The main issue here is not the party objective but personal objectives that have clouded the PAC Program. Super views which could have fixed the PAC were long cast out and thrown out of the table and nothing is learned by us as members. Mphahlele is out but the problem is still there in the PAC, now recently Mphethi is out but there is still a problem. What I can conclude now is that maybe all of us need to be out of PAC to allow PAC to grow, who else must be out of PAC for PAC to get it right? *Regards,* *Thabani Zondo* *Tel : 072 020 5127* *smollzo...@gmail.com smollzo...@gmail.com* *HEAD OFFICE* *CENTENARY BUILDING* *CHURCH SQUARE* *PRETORIA* *0001* *TEL: 012 323 9892* *FAX: 086 617 7851* *PO BOX 5981* *PRETORIA* *0001* On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: M’Afrika I fully agree with M’Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC branches and members at an inclusive national conference. There is no attack on the party’s annual conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *Sent:* 04 September 2014 12:42 PM *To:* Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za *Cc:* mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out
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Morning Cde. Raymond I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an individual in the form of an S.G who thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others. By the way you are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC which operates somewhere in a building in Joburg which can hardly pull one revolutionary programme. In terms of the history of the PAC you maybe sitting with an SG who has performed worse than any other S.G at any given. The SG went to several media houses claiming the PAC is ready to govern and the elections results suggest something else. Any revolutionary leader must be a person whom when time calls for serious introspection and checks and balances he does so to assist the party not his/her self righteousness attitude/mentality. Relying only on a conference which will have bussed and ghost branches wont assist the party in anyway. Take the Birchwood Conference I am told there were bussed delegates who never participated in discussions and some were drinking alcohol as they were there for an outing. For me arguing endlessly with this so called NEC powers it is a waste of time and the lesser we talk about this SG the better it is. The truth is since the Butterworth Congress the PAC was never in politics and hence its silence in the political activities of the country. I don't blame the SG because if people who work with him attend meetings to discuss people and suspensions and expulsions and then call that progress in the party tough luck for PAC members and its future. Personally I hate people who like claiming things that don't exist and for me to suggest the party has developed capacity to operate behind enemy lines is cheap and weak revolutionary theory to say the least. There is only one lesson we can draw from this post Butterworth NEC and that is when we approach the leadership issue we must all be sober and be serious about it. I think the reason why the PAC was successful from its inception it was mainly due to the facts I raised above and they elected office President and SG and put the leadership which had what it takes to build a revolutionary party. It is more than 24 months since we had an NEC but al what we are consuming is a blame game. I have enough years in PAC to simply see what works and what wont work. You can have Cde Moloto for the next 100 years there as an SG all you are going to have is cheap manipulation, disorder, weekly suspensions and poor performance of PAC at all levels of party operations. In short it does not matter how right he says things will remain the same. Izwe Lethu! On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:10 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Linda, the attached documents, once more confirms the question you raised. But the task facing all of us, it is to salvage the PAC from complete obliteration waged by the feuding 'NEC'. Founding leaders of PAC are turning in their graves! Shango lashu Nkrumah -- Forwarded message -- From: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za Date: 02 Sep 2014 3:44 PM Subject: attack on party annual conference To: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, Narius Moloto s...@pac.org.za, smollzo...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, Delano Maloney dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, Lekgathi 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1718 bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, Michael Muendane m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mrfihl...@gmail.com, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, Pinkie Monyane monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, mnd...@yahoo.com, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com Cc: njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, tnta...@webmail.co.za Izwe Lethu Please find the attached for your attention. Pass the message to other structure and members. Regards PAC of Azania Tel
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...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.comcelenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.comnjabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.netvu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.comdumisani...@gmail.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Morning Cde. Raymond I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an individual in the form of an S.G who thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others. By the way you are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC which operates somewhere in a building in Joburg which can hardly pull one revolutionary programme. In terms of the history of the PAC you maybe sitting with an SG who has performed worse than any other S.G at any given. The SG went to several media houses claiming the PAC is ready to govern and the elections results suggest something else. Any revolutionary leader must be a person whom when time calls for serious introspection and checks and balances he does so to assist the party not his/her self righteousness attitude/mentality. Relying only on a conference which will have bussed and ghost branches wont assist the party in anyway. Take the Birchwood Conference I am told there were bussed delegates who never participated in discussions and some were drinking alcohol as they were there for an outing. For me arguing endlessly with this so called NEC powers it is a waste of time and the lesser we talk about this SG the better it is. The truth is since the Butterworth Congress the PAC was never in politics and hence its silence in the political activities of the country. I don't blame the SG because if people who work with him attend meetings to discuss people and suspensions and expulsions and then call that progress in the party tough luck for PAC members and its future. Personally I hate people who like claiming things that don't exist and for me to suggest the party has developed capacity to operate behind enemy lines is cheap and weak revolutionary theory to say the least. There is only one lesson we can draw from this post Butterworth NEC and that is when we approach the leadership issue we must all be sober and be serious about it. I think the reason why the PAC was successful from its inception it was mainly due to the facts I raised above and they elected office President and SG and put the leadership which had what it takes to build a revolutionary party. It is more than 24 months since we had an NEC but al what we are consuming is a blame game. I have enough years in PAC to simply see what works and what wont work. You can have Cde Moloto for the next 100 years there as an SG all you are going to have is cheap manipulation, disorder, weekly suspensions and poor performance of PAC at all levels of party operations. In short it does not matter how right he says things will remain the same. Izwe Lethu! On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:10 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Linda, the attached documents, once more confirms the question you raised. But the task facing all of us, it is to salvage the PAC from complete obliteration waged by the feuding 'NEC'. Founding leaders of PAC are turning in their graves! Shango lashu Nkrumah -- Forwarded message -- From: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za Date: 02 Sep 2014 3:44 PM Subject: attack on party annual conference To: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, Narius Moloto s...@pac.org.za, smollzo...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, Delano Maloney dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, Lekgathi 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1718 bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, Michael Muendane m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mrfihl...@gmail.com, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, Pinkie Monyane monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, mnd...@yahoo.com, po
Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mrfihl...@gmail.com, mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, mnd...@yahoo.com, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com, njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Morning Cde. Raymond I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an individual in the form of an S.G who thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others. By the way you are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC which operates somewhere in a building in Joburg which can hardly pull one revolutionary programme. In terms of the history of the PAC you maybe sitting with an SG who has performed worse than any other S.G at any given. The SG went to several media houses claiming the PAC is ready to govern and the elections results suggest something else. Any revolutionary leader must be a person whom when time calls for serious introspection and checks and balances he does so to assist the party not his/her self righteousness attitude/mentality. Relying only on a conference which will have bussed and ghost branches wont assist the party in anyway. Take the Birchwood Conference I am told there were bussed delegates who never participated in discussions and some were drinking alcohol as they were there for an outing. For me arguing endlessly with this so called NEC powers it is a waste of time and the lesser we talk about this SG the better it is. The truth is since the Butterworth Congress the PAC was never in politics and hence its silence in the political activities of the country. I don't blame the SG because if people who work with him attend meetings to discuss people and suspensions and expulsions and then call that progress in the party tough luck for PAC members and its future. Personally I hate people who like claiming things that don't exist and for me to suggest the party has developed capacity to operate behind enemy lines is cheap and weak revolutionary theory to say the least. There is only one lesson we can draw from this post Butterworth NEC and that is when we approach the leadership issue we must all be sober and be serious about it. I think the reason why the PAC was successful from its inception it was mainly due to the facts I raised above and they elected office President and SG and put the leadership which had what it takes to build a revolutionary party. It is more than 24 months since we had an NEC but al what we are consuming is a blame game. I have enough years in PAC to simply see what works and what wont work. You can have Cde Moloto for the next 100 years there as an SG all you are going to have is cheap manipulation, disorder, weekly suspensions and poor performance of PAC at all levels of party operations. In short it does not matter how right he says things will remain the same. Izwe Lethu! On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:10 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Linda, the attached documents, once more confirms the question you raised. But the task facing all of us, it is to salvage the PAC from complete obliteration waged by the feuding 'NEC'. Founding leaders of PAC are turning in their graves! Shango lashu Nkrumah -- Forwarded message -- From: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za Date: 02 Sep 2014 3:44 PM Subject: attack on party annual conference To: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, Narius Moloto s...@pac.org.za, smollzo...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, digashuma...@gmail.com, Delano Maloney dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, Lekgathi 0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1718 bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, Michael Muendane m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, mbind...@gmail.com, mrfihl...@gmail.com, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com
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M'Afrika I fully agree with M'Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC branches and members at an inclusive national conference. There is no attack on the party's annual conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] Sent: 04 September 2014 12:42 PM To: Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za Cc: mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09
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Comrade Zondo Your statement makes sense but you are dishonest. Cde Moloto has been paying for yourself and Eddie Mfulwane to attend NEC meetings and support his positions as far back as 11 May 2013. Your PAYCO is not driving any PAC Programmes among the youths in the country buts has been a voting cattle for Moloto NEC Grouping. Some of your youths members like Eddie Mfulwane, Justice Digashu and others are paid by Moloto to do what Moloto seeks from PAYCO. PYACO has no provincial, regional structures across the country with only handful few branches. We know radical and revolutionary AZANYU As PAYCO you have no youth programmes to mobilise and challenge the dominance of the ANCYL, DA Youth Organisation is doing far much better. Remember, PASMA collapsed under your leadership with Eddie Mfulwane, now PAYCO will be written off! PAC with all its mistakes and weaknesses, we used to pride ourselves about militant and revolutionary AZANYU, PASO and PASMA leadership and membership which was ideologically sound and politically sharp but today PAYCO has become a shame. You are leading PAYCO and a small pocket size trade union? All this is just a money making scheme, typical of lumpens. Withdraw yourself from being scrop-lappie of some moneyed people in PAC and focus on uniting and building PAYCO. Organise meetings and pursued Mpasha Pitso. Your Madadeni congress mandated that end of 2013 PAYCO must have an youth conference remain unfulfilled! PAC did not have youth during national elections because PAYCO only exists to vote during and at Moloto NEC meetings. Izwe lethu Ndima On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: M’Afrika I fully agree with M’Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC branches and members at an inclusive national conference. There is no attack on the party’s annual conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *Sent:* 04 September 2014 12:42 PM *To:* Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za *Cc:* mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC
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...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote: Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu I note that name calling and castigation of characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing in Moloto today. Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of campaigning during the past elections, we were busy promoting our factional interests, taking each other to court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary behavior that does not take us anywhere. All we need now is genuine solutions to the PAC problems. Factional statements and campaigns will not take us anywhere. For now, Moloto remains secretary general of the PAC, all the noises we can make against him will not help. The reality also here is that some of us are not genuine, we are not fighting Moloto because we have the interests of the PAC at heart. We are fighting Moloto because we are pushing factional interests. My proposal is that let us identify
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...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather preferring an individual to do so and who think he is everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders who grew in this party and with long service should have known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last will catch up with them and those who thought they will benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to be seen. On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com wrote: MaAfrika, An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are already celebrating success, let us not allow them that glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party Project. PAC must never die! Izwe Lethu! Kutie On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za wrote: All these years fighting each other but there is no solution . . . what's wrong with us - line in Lucky Dube's song The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our structures and bring that change. It is expected that there will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain either so only active engagement to pursue a collective principle will put us in a better place as an organization. iAfrika iAfrika On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote: Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu I note that name calling and castigation of characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing in Moloto today. Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of campaigning during the past elections, we were busy promoting our factional interests, taking each other to court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary behavior that does not take us anywhere. All we need now is genuine solutions to the PAC problems. Factional statements and campaigns will not take us anywhere. For now, Moloto remains secretary general of the PAC, all the noises we can make against him will not help. The reality also here is that some of us are not genuine, we are not fighting Moloto because we have the interests of the PAC at heart. We are fighting Moloto because we are pushing factional interests. My proposal is that let us identify those aspects that can help us to unite the PAC instead of engaging in useless muddling. Fihla Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Mbuyiselo Kantso Date:04/09/2014 08:41 (GMT+02:00) To: payco@googlegroups.com, linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za
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Comrades, I have been following your discussions attentively. Everyone is concerned even us who are outside PAC. We are what we are because of teaching and skills invested to us by PAC. We are expected to celebrate when PAC is in deep crisis and claim to vindicated. Instead, we are deeply hurt when people are making PAC a laughing stock. President Zuma offended me when said on live television, Where is PAC? and then laughed. We know the enemies of African people are celebrating for job well done. Continued divisions works in their favour. Comrades, action speaks more than words. It is not easy to rescue PAC without extraordinary means. We must jointly rational thinking more than emotions. Blame game will take us to nowhere. Fighting each other did not take us anywhere. I believe a well thought roadmap is the only answer to ''Rebuild the Broken Walls of Pan Africanism in South Africa. The time is now or never! The only way to draw up this roadmap as I see it is to convene a Mammelodi-type of Convention of all Pan Africanists, not conference or caucus. That is my suggestion. I may be wrong. I see no other avenue. To me, it is only in a convention where we can do thorough introspection without factions competing for leadershp position. Election of NEC, we have seen, will take PAC nowhere but further division. That is my oinion! It's not gospel truth but just a suggestion in positive direction. Some people will ask why I am concerned about PAC matters? My answer is, I took a conscious decision to join PAC of 1959 and grew up in PAC because I believe it was the only vehicle for liberation in this country. That is why we fought so hard for PAM to adopt PAC Basic Documents because we still regard ourselves as members of PAC of Sobukwe in self-imposed exile in response to PAC crisis. Those who feel threatened by unity will disagree with me for their own reasons. It's their choice. Comrades, whether we like it or not, PAM outside there is seen as PAC in disguise. We cant the voters, rivals and enemies. When they see comrade Makwetu in PAM they all say there is PAC. It's fact! Izwe Lethu! -- Sent from my Nokia phone --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com,Kutie Thondlana kutie.thondl...@gmail.com,sndam...@pac-cape.org.za Cc: mrfihla08 mrfihl...@gmail.com,linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za,ad...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,rammymfulw...@gmail.com,richardma...@yahoo.com,river.mla...@telkomsa.net,ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za,takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,tumimod...@hotmail.co.za,tyamza...@yahoo.com,tnta...@webmail.co.za,isaa...@diplomat-global.com,i...@bataufc.com,lea...@hotmail.com,phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com,p...@vodamail.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,pasmapresid...@gmail.com,pactshwanereg...@gmail.com,pacmogalec...@gmail.com,pac.nc...@gmail.com,phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,pacaza...@webmail.co.za,s...@pac.org.za,smollzo...@gmail.com,sbusiso.x...@gmail.com,dud...@webmail.co.za,digashuma...@gmail.com,dmalo...@klerksdorp.org,goqwana.san...@gmail.com,hlubi.so...@gmail.com,joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com,jntab...@gmail.com,L Lekgwathi 0825164...@vodamail.co.za,lucasmmol...@gmail.com,znyam...@gmail.com,billiard.s...@gmail.com,bulanng...@gmail.com,bennet_j...@yahoo.com,bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,Nakaphala Bauba nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,nnyq...@gmail.com,m...@soultalk.co.za,mapulankoan...@gmail.com,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,mbind...@gmail.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za,malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,mphothobej...@yahoo.com,mokoen...@workmail.co.za,moshemahlom...@gmail.com,monyanepin...@gmail.com,mop...@pac.org.za,mnd...@yahoo.com,po...@yahoo.com,celenjabulo...@gmail.com,njabulo.m...@gmail.com,vu...@telkomsa.net,dumisani...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:06:19 PM GMT+0200 Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference M'Afrika I fully agree with M'Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So
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.Mahlanguvemahla...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Comrade Zondo Your statement makes sense but you are dishonest. Cde Moloto has been paying for yourself and Eddie Mfulwane to attend NEC meetings and support his positions as far back as 11 May 2013. Your PAYCO is not driving any PAC Programmes among the youths in the country buts has been a voting cattle for Moloto NEC Grouping. Some of your youths members like Eddie Mfulwane, Justice Digashu and others are paid by Moloto to do what Moloto seeks from PAYCO. PYACO has no provincial, regional structures across the country with only handful few branches. We know radical and revolutionary AZANYU As PAYCO you have no youth programmes to mobilise and challenge the dominance of the ANCYL, DA Youth Organisation is doing far much better. Remember, PASMA collapsed under your leadership with Eddie Mfulwane, now PAYCO will be written off! PAC with all its mistakes and weaknesses, we used to pride ourselves about militant and revolutionary AZANYU, PASO and PASMA leadership and membership which was ideologically sound and politically sharp but today PAYCO has become a shame. You are leading PAYCO and a small pocket size trade union? All this is just a money making scheme, typical of lumpens. Withdraw yourself from being scrop-lappie of some moneyed people in PAC and focus on uniting and building PAYCO. Organise meetings and pursued Mpasha Pitso. Your Madadeni congress mandated that end of 2013 PAYCO must have an youth conference remain unfulfilled! PAC did not have youth during national elections because PAYCO only exists to vote during and at Moloto NEC meetings. Izwe lethu Ndima On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: M’Afrika I fully agree with M’Afrika Kutie the enemies of PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC. Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot execute any constitutional roles without being questioned, there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we are facing parallel structures across the country including in APLAMVA and PAYCO! PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three unequal and non-quorating parts! According to e-mails and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC branches and members at an inclusive national conference. There is no attack on the party’s annual conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening of the PAC! This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested, and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC towards a lasting political and organisational solution. Shango lashu Nkrumah *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *Sent:* 04 September 2014 12:42 PM *To:* Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za *Cc:* mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; jntab...@gmail.com; L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com; znyam...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com; m...@soultalk.co.za; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; mbind...@gmail.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party
RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
M’Afrika Comrade Linda, Comrade and Comrade Charge-in and all, from words to action, are comrades willing to mobilise fellow comrades-branches and form part of an open and inclusive meeting to consider all options including those proposed by Cde Linda? We must bring into one pot all initiatives to create one common action plan to salvage the PAC! The disintegration of PAC must be arrested! Shango lashu NKrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 04 September 2014 03:31 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; mrfihla08; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; Admin @ Pac; Wandisile Gajana; eddie mfulwane; richardma...@yahoo.com; Johnson Mlambo; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; Tumediso Modise; Xola Tyamzashe; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; Alton Mphethi; lea...@hotmail.com; phillip Dhlamini; p...@vodamail.co.za; Cape; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; PAC TSHWANE; PAC Mogale city PAC; pac.nc...@gmail.com; Phumzile Nomnga; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; Narius Moloto; Smoll Zondo; Sbusiso Xaba; dud...@webmail.co.za; Lehlogonolo Digashu; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Comrades, The levels of factionalism in our party makes one doubt any possibility of getting the party right. The level of engagement is below par and mainly focuses on attacking personalities. I maintain my view that our engagements lacks practical steps towards resolving the myriad of problems facing our PAC. The absence of substantive intellectual engagements battle of ideas drives us to identify with those who can articulate better or who can buy us fish chips without reading nor understanding the purpose of their actions. Comrades, we must indicate some of us that we want to make our historical input in our lifetime in the struggle to emancipate our people and Africa from all kinds of oppression. We can't wait forever for PAC to get right, its either we make an effort to cleanse it Now or we pursue the ideals of PAC elsewhere. Time comrades waits no man. We cannot continue to be patient with this madness. Some people probably are happy to be part of a small and insignificant PAC, we are not. We know the potential of the PAC. PAC with its ideology and its policies can overrun any political party in this country. We need a mass-based PAC,militant and revolutionary. We need to revitalize PAC and its urgent. I am convinced that the following can lead PAC to find itself: 1. Intervention of party veterans and stalwarts (facilitate mediation and reconciliation between feuding factions) We were prepared to reconcile with boers, why not with our own? 2. Withdrawal of all suspensions and expulsions (token of peace and unity) 3. Place moratorium on expulsion of councillors and MP's 4. Amalgamation of component structures (get rid of parallel structures) 5. Convening of a All inclusive National Conference (purpose to unite the party and develop a National Programme of Action for the party) 6. Establishment of an all-inclusive Interim NEC (whose mandate will be to organize an elective Congress, Audit Branches and Regions, represent the party nationally and host the National Congress within 9 months) We need to be practical with this and get things done. Efforts have been initiated by comrades like Matome Mashao, Nkrumah, Raymond Fihla and the late General Siyaya, late Cde Makhanda, Johnson Mlambo, Jaki Seroke and Cunningham Ngcukana. Let's build on those efforts and get PAC going. Izwe lethu! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! _ From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:27:26 +0200 To: payco@googlegroups.com mailto:payco@googlegroups.com%3cpa...@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Kutie Thondlanakutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za mailto:sndam...@pac-cape.org.za%3csndam...@pac-cape.org.za sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; mrfihla08mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; Admin @ Pacad...@pac.org.za; Wandisile Gajanawgaj...@gmail.com; eddie mfulwanerammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com mailto:richardma...@yahoo.com%3crichardma...@yahoo.com richardma...@yahoo.com; Johnson Mlamboriver.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com mailto:takalaniligeg...@gmail.com%3ctakalaniligeg...@gmail.com takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; Tumediso Modisetumimod...@hotmail.co.za; Xola Tyamzashetyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; Alton Mphethii...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; phillip Dhlaminiphillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za mailto:p...@vodamail.co.za%3cp...@vodamail.co.za p...@vodamail.co.za; Capepaccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com mailto:pasmapresid
Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Any initiative aimed at getting PAC right has to be supported. I am in and will lobby other comrades and branches to do the same. Izwe lethu! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:00:10 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: 'Kutie Thondlana'kutie.thondl...@gmail.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'mrfihla08'mrfihl...@gmail.com; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; 'Admin @ Pac'ad...@pac.org.za; 'Wandisile Gajana'wgaj...@gmail.com; 'eddie mfulwane'rammymfulw...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; 'Johnson Mlambo'river.mla...@telkomsa.net; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; 'Tumediso Modise'tumimod...@hotmail.co.za; 'Xola Tyamzashe'tyamza...@yahoo.com; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; 'Alton Mphethi'i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com; 'phillip Dhlamini'phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; p...@vodamail.co.za; 'Cape'paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'PAC TSHWANE'pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; 'PAC Mogale city PAC'pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com; 'Phumzile Nomnga'phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; 'Narius Moloto's...@pac.org.za; 'Smoll Zondo'smollzo...@gmail.com; 'Sbusiso Xaba'sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; 'Lehlogonolo Digashu'digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference M’Afrika Comrade Linda, Comrade and Comrade Charge-in and all, from words to action, are comrades willing to mobilise fellow comrades-branches and form part of an open and inclusive meeting to consider all options including those proposed by Cde Linda? We must bring into one pot all initiatives to create one common action plan to salvage the PAC! The disintegration of PAC must be arrested! Shango lashu NKrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 04 September 2014 03:31 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; mrfihla08; linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za; Admin @ Pac; Wandisile Gajana; eddie mfulwane; richardma...@yahoo.com; Johnson Mlambo; ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; Tumediso Modise; Xola Tyamzashe; tnta...@webmail.co.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; Alton Mphethi; lea...@hotmail.com; phillip Dhlamini; p...@vodamail.co.za; Cape; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; PAC TSHWANE; PAC Mogale city PAC; pac.nc...@gmail.com; Phumzile Nomnga; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; Narius Moloto; Smoll Zondo; Sbusiso Xaba; dud...@webmail.co.za; Lehlogonolo Digashu; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Comrades, The levels of factionalism in our party makes one doubt any possibility of getting the party right. The level of engagement is below par and mainly focuses on attacking personalities. I maintain my view that our engagements lacks practical steps towards resolving the myriad of problems facing our PAC. The absence of substantive intellectual engagements battle of ideas drives us to identify with those who can articulate better or who can buy us fish chips without reading nor understanding the purpose of their actions. Comrades, we must indicate some of us that we want to make our historical input in our lifetime in the struggle to emancipate our people and Africa from all kinds of oppression. We can't wait forever for PAC to get right, its either we make an effort to cleanse it Now or we pursue the ideals of PAC elsewhere. Time comrades waits no man. We cannot continue to be patient with this madness. Some people probably are happy to be part of a small and insignificant PAC, we are not. We know the potential of the PAC. PAC with its ideology and its policies can overrun any political party in this country. We need a mass-based PAC,militant and revolutionary. We need to revitalize PAC and its urgent. I am convinced that the following can lead PAC to find itself: 1. Intervention of party veterans and stalwarts (facilitate mediation and reconciliation between feuding factions) We were prepared to reconcile with boers, why not with our own? 2. Withdrawal of all suspensions and expulsions (token of peace and unity) 3. Place moratorium on expulsion of councillors and MP's 4. Amalgamation of component structures (get rid of parallel structures) 5. Convening of a All inclusive National Conference (purpose to unite the party and develop a National Programme of Action for the party) 6. Establishment of an all-inclusive Interim NEC (whose mandate will be to organize an elective Congress, Audit Branches and Regions, represent the party nationally and host the National Congress within 9 months) We need to be practical with this and get things done. Efforts have been initiated by comrades like Matome Mashao
[PAYCO] Fw: The plight of the people of Palestine
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Linda Ndebele linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:34:17 To: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.zakwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi (nrkgag...@gmail.com)nrkgag...@gmail.com Subject: The plight of the people of Palestine Comrades, Pleas assist to circulate this to media houses and social networks. We can't afford to continue being silent on such important events in history and geo-global politics. Izwe lethu! Linda K Ndebele Mobile: 0720682881 Tel: 0343283423 My final prayer: O my body, make of me always a man who questions! Franz Fanon This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Newcastle Municipality. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of it is strictly prohibited. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Media release on Palestine.docx Description: Media release on Palestine.docx
[PAYCO] Fw: Visiting Schedule - PAC Program of Action
Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Matome Mashao matomecapitalf...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:50:45 To: Matomemmas...@webmail.co.za Subject: Visiting Schedule - PAC Program of Action -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Schedule - Working on the Program of Action PAC.docx Description: MS-Word 2007 document
[PAYCO] FW: AN APPEAL FOR A SOLIDARITY CAMPAIGN
From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi [mailto:nrkgag...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 June 2014 04:57 PM To: 'Daniel Lengoabala'; mphahlel...@amcu.co.za; generalsecret...@mwasa.org.za; lushoz...@gmail.com; nufbw...@wbs.co.za; pnk...@distell.co.za; tsn...@webmail.co.za; tsn...@webmail.co.za; nasecgw...@telkomsa.net; nasecgw...@telkomsa.net; nasecgw...@telkomsa.net; np...@mweb.co.za; p...@npswu.org; craiga...@vodamail.co.za; mphahleleephr...@gmail.com; generalsecret...@peuoffice.com; maggie.makg...@gmail.com; legalu...@sacwu.co.za; mose...@sacwu.co.za; sap...@gmail.com; sap...@gmail.com; z...@tawusa.org.za; limpopo.ad...@tawusa.org.za; frankston...@yahoo.com; president.ing...@kingsley.co.za; mthobej...@mewusa.org.za; albertentshi...@gmail.com; lewusa.ben...@gmail.com; inqubelaphambili.tradeun...@gmail.com; inqubelaphambili.tradeun...@gmail.com; icuworkersun...@gmail.com; ic...@telkomsa.net; carolinerakgots...@yahoo.co.za; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; esei...@fedcraw.org.za; eccaw...@iafrica.com; tryphi...@telesure.co.za; maben...@amcu.co.za; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; bc...@netactive.co.za; 'Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi'; hoteli...@iburst.co.za Subject: AN APPEAL FOR A SOLIDARITY CAMPAIGN Greetings Comrades The National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa), Solidarity, the Metal and Electrical Workers Union of South Africa and the South African Equity Workers Association are demanding a 15% wage increase, while employers have offered an inflation-linked increase of 6.1%. We have long predicted that the Metal and Engineering industries workers will also go to industrial strike action, given the fact that NUMSA mainly seeks to strategically position itself and grow it membership base in the metal and engineering industries and the entire manufacturing sector. The strategic positioning by NUMSA as an alternative fighting trade union will result to a massive decline and loss of membership by both MEWUSA and any NACTU and FEDUSA trade unions. The readings are on the wall comradely, workers in the country are seeking for alternative trade unions willing to strengthen workers’ workplace and industrial fighting capacity against low wages, poor working conditions and lack of benefits. The socio-economic conditions become an additional impetus which drives workers to trade unions that are publicly visible and with political campaigns fighting both capitalist exploitation and government’s poor service delivery. Failure for MEWUSA and other manufacturing industries based trade union to adopt a fighting attitude to confront capitalist exploitation and poor service delivery, these unions will notice absence of membership growth but a loss of membership. Once again we place before MEWUSA and all NACTU Affiliates, to consider to adopt campaigns which will place them directly in the daily struggles waged by the African workers and their respective communities. As activists, researchers and academics, we avail ourselves and our expertise to assist in developing actions plans and implementation of those actions plans. Comrades should not that, workers are interested in organisations that integrates both workplaces struggles jointly with community based struggles. We place the following for your consideration and deliberations:- Workplace and Economic Demands ·Total ban or abolish labour brokers across all industries; ·Medical and Provident/Pension Fund Benefit for all workers across all industries; ·Housing allowance payable to each worker across all industries; ·Mandatory workplace training for all workers without loss of pay; ·No company in our industry should be allowed to implement Employment Tax Incentive, total rejection of youth wage subsidy; Social Demands ·Free and Compulsory education from Grade R until Postgraduate Degree; ·Review of SETAs role and funding be directed mainly to FET Colleges to resolve skills shortage in the country ·Abolish private education for a single public education system; ·Abolish private Health System for a single public health system; ·RE-opening of teachers training colleges to resolve teachers shortages at public schools; ·Re-opening of nursing colleges across all provinces to resolve shortage of nurses at hospitals and clinics ·Re-opening of technical colleges until evening until Saturday to allow workers access to education; ·Opening Agricultural Colleges across all provinces to develop skills and knowledge on crop and stock farming; ·All public servants and parliamentarians should use public services such as schools, transport, clinics and hospitals; ·Parliamentarians should earn an equivalent salary including benefits to those of workers; ·Free electricity and water for the unemployed and workers earning less than R8000,00; ·House state subsidy for worker not
[PAYCO] FW: Is Marxism still relevant today? Book Launch Thursday 20 Feb: MARXISMS IN THE 21ST CENTURY
Comrades interested are encouraged to attend the open discussions/debate and book launch as per the e-mail below! From: corina.vandersp...@wits.ac.za on behalf of Wits University Press [mailto:corina.vandersp...@wits.ac.za] Sent: 14 February 2014 02:35 PM To: Raymond Kgagudi Subject: Is Marxism still relevant today? Book Launch Thursday 20 Feb: MARXISMS IN THE 21ST CENTURY http://e2.ma/track/lgi4h/x90bzf Wits University Press cordially invites you to the launch of MARXISMS IN THE 21ST CENTURY http://e2.ma/click/lgi4h/x90bzf/9uxcud Crisis, Critique Struggle Editors: Michelle Williams Vishwas Satgar Dinga Sikwebu, the National Education Coordinator of the National Union of Metalworkers of South Africa (NUMSA), will be in conversation with Michelle Williams and Vishwas Satgar, editors of this book. WHEN Thursday 20 February, 17h30 to 20h00 WHERE Graduate Seminar Room, South West Engineering Building http://e2.ma/click/lgi4h/x90bzf/pnycud , East Campus, Wits University RSVP by 19 February to info.witspr...@wits.ac.za Join our mailing list http://e2.ma/click/lgi4h/x90bzf/5fzcud Click here http://e2.ma/click/lgi4h/x90bzf/l8zcud if you what to be added or removed from the Wits University Press mailing list. If you cannot see the full text of this invitation, you can download it from here http://e2.ma/click/lgi4h/x90bzf/100cud . http://www.wits.ac.za/files/h4oos_225681001392214727.jpg -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] FW: Internship programs at SABC
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[PAYCO] Fw: FYI
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Selapisha legalu...@sacwu.org.za Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:21:32 To: 'Felix Makgato'felix.makg...@sacwu.org.za; fikile.rad...@sacwu.org.za; ''Fabian Nkomo''fnkom...@yahoo.co.uk; matthews.di...@sacwu.org.za; Mosehlapresid...@sacwu.org.za; Michael Nhlaphomichael.nhla...@aelms.com; Thompson \( TJ\) Masilwanethompson.masilw...@sasol.com; Tumediso Modisetumimod...@hotmail.co.za; elaine maphelaelaine.maph...@sacwu.org.za; patric...@ncp.co.za; Poppie Ngemapoppie.ng...@sacwu.org.za; phillip.mahla...@sasol.com; sacwunewcastlesacwunewcas...@telkomsa.net; isaac.machav...@saint-gobain.com; Isobel Leschsacwu@polka.co.za; mphi...@gmail.com; matsatsi.sib...@sacwu.org.za Subject: FW: FYI From: Ramontsho Monnakgotla [mailto:ramont...@unityincorporation.co.za] Sent: 09 December 2013 11:31 AM To: Amon Theoha; Annah Ndhlovu; Boikie Young Lethakha; Bongiwe Mofokeng; Cyril Dibakwane; LEHLOHONOLO MAMPANE; 'Manzi Maputuma'; Matome Selapisha; meshach abakah; Mputumi Mayekiso; Nkwane Molefe; Tiro Monnakgotla; Tiro Monnakgotla ; Tebogo Mokona; victor ngobeni; Victor Ngobeni; Yoliswa Mandla; Zukisa Leleki Subject: FW: FYI Whose freeway is it anyway? http://voices.news24.com/author/mondli-magwaza/ Description: Mondli Magwaza By http://voices.news24.com/author/mondli-magwaza/ Mondli Magwaza Friday, October 25, 2013 http://voices.news24.com/mondli-magwaza/2013/10/whose-freeway-is-it-anyway-i-dont-have-an-e-tag/ Share on email The Propaganda is tricking you into believing that the streets are not yours, that it is by grace that you can enjoy cruising down the N1 (assuming it’s a Sunday night ). That you should be grateful of the little that they have done as it comes from the goodness of their heart. And I fear that you might be giving in. No my brothers and sisters, these are our streets, we are the economy of the country, collectively we hold more power than the government. A bit about me I do not own an e-tag, Ok my name is Mondli Magwaza, a law abiding citizen and a married father of a 4 years old boy. I have a no criminal record and I pay most of my traffic infringements. I have never even been to a court room, I only go to police stations to certify documents. But in the recent issue of e-tolls I feel that I am ready to be executed for what I believe, I’m ready drive into a road block and declare that I won’t buy an e-tag and get hanged on the spot. Why I’m not getting tagged? Simple, because the road belongs to me and I have already over paid for it. In the 2013’s budget speech R32.9 billion was allocated to SANRAL for road improvements which came from society taxes collected from me and you. A little more than R 2 comes off every litre of petrol I fill in my car; this produces over R 40 billion rand per annum in revenue and is specifically for infrastructure development also known as my roads. I also pay my vehicle licence fees annually from which the Gauteng transport department raises well over R 2 billion per annum. Let’s roll back to a stone left unturned In 2006 SANRAL undertook the so called Gauteng Freeway Upgrade Project estimated at R 6 billion, which 5 years later ended up costing me and you over R 20 billion. This equates to over R 1 million per kilometer, which by the way was actually a few centimeters resurfacing of existing roads. Competition Commission’s investigation proved that the society was over charged for all the work, but the investigation was called off just as it was close to pointing fingers on the individuals that benefited from these exaggerated costs What’s e-Tolling In 2009 Electronic Tolling Company was awarded R 10.1 billion tender to extract money from Gauteng motorists through e-Tolling, ETC by the way is 85% owned by a European company KAPSCH, which publicly announced that they will earn R670 million per annum from the e-toll system. Take a moment to imagine the amount of Schools, Clinics and of course Roads (hello) that could have been built with all this money, don’t forget to breathe. The fuel levy mechanism on the other side goes straight to developing our roads, if this was really about the roads, the Treasury would have added a mere 9c to the fuel levy from 2006, by now they would have accumulated more than R 17 billion, more than enough to keep our roads in an international standards that we are used to (The freeways are there, let’s give it to them), while maintaining SANRAL’s credit rating and keeping them focused on building roads and us, the tax payers, on working to build South Africa to what it could become. This is not some national road in Malawi! Our head of state with his reasoning poses a question “Why should the whole of South Africa pay for Gauteng roads” well Mr President, excuse me for thinking like an African but Gauteng roads are South African roads, The entire country benefits from us driving
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC...
MoAFrika Mphiri, your energy is encouraging but one thing you are missing noble son of soil is that the PAC NEC choose to fight among each other instead of focusing on planning for 2014 National Elections, other political parties are all over the media mobilising the people and encouraging people to register to vote but where is Mpethi-Moloto NEC? We can also ask where is Letlapa's NEC? Both Letlapa and Moloto can encourage PAC members to fight against EACH OTHER BUT THEY ARE FAILING TO PUT RESOURCES AND THEIR TIME TO ORGANISE PAC MEMBERS AGAINST THE ANC, WHY? MMINA, I BELIEVE THAT THE EARLIER WE REMOVE BOTH NARIUS AND LETLAPA NEC GROUPING THE BETTER TO SAVE PAC! PAC HAS YOUNG, TALENTED AND WILLING LEADERS TO TAKE US FORWARD! WITH LETLAPA AND MOLOTO FIGHTINGS WE ARE WASTING OUR PRECIOUS TIME! SMALL PARTIES LIKE EFF WILL GET MORE VOTES THAN PAC BECAUSE IN PAC WE ARE FIGHTING FIGHTS OF LETLAPA AGAINST MOLOTO AND FIGHTS OF MOLOTO AGAINST LETLAPA. LETLAPA MUST ACCOUNT FOR ALL PAC MONIES OF IEC AND PARLIAMENTARY FUNDING! AND ALSO MOLOTO AND JOKO MUST EXPLAIN AND ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE PAC MONIES BECAUSE THE TWO WHEN DIRECTLY IN CHARGE OF PAC ACCOUNTS ALL ALONG BEFORE THE END OF MAY 2013. Izwe lethu Ndima On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: REGISTER at our nearest IEC offices! It is your right to vote #2014Elections! Please register and vote PAC! SMS YES for PAC to contact or visit you in your area. Can we attempt and Register with all networks to fund raise for 2014 elections. Those with good IT skills can you come on board and assist? I have learned from Vhararists who send it to my wife. We can also send sms'es to all NACTU Affiliates, Friends, Neighbours all we know. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC...
REGISTER at our nearest IEC offices! It is your right to vote #2014Elections! Please register and vote PAC! SMS YES for PAC to contact or visit you in your area. Can we attempt and Register with all networks to fund raise for 2014 elections. Those with good IT skills can you come on board and assist? I have learned from Vhararists who send it to my wife. We can also send sms'es to all NACTU Affiliates, Friends, Neighbours all we know. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] FW: Venue Change for Panel Discussion
http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-e-budhuul-jkkuldulty-r/ Web version | http://mistra.updatemyprofile.com/r-budhuul-278312A3-jkkuldulty-y Update preferences | http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-u-budhuul-jkkuldulty-j/ Unsubscribe http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-fb-budhuul-jkkuldulty-t/ Facebook icon http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-fb-budhuul-jkkuldulty-i/ Like http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-tw-budhuul-jkkuldulty-d/ Twitter icon http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-tw-budhuul-jkkuldulty-h/ Tweet http://mistra.forwardtomyfriend.com/r-jkkuldulty-278312A3-budhuul-l-k Forward icon http://mistra.forwardtomyfriend.com/r-jkkuldulty-278312A3-budhuul-l-u Forward https://i8.createsend1.com/ti/r/33/0D5/738/010247/images/logo.jpg https://i1.createsend1.com/ei/r/CE/8E5/419/csimport/all.092823.JPG DONALD GORDON AUDITORIUM **CHANGE OF VENUE*** Panel Discussion on When Governments Work: why the public service matters with Joel Netshitenzhe, Executive Director (MISTRA) and former Director of Policy in the Presidency Eghosa Osaghae, Professor of Comparative Politics and Vice Chanchellor at Igbinedion University Eun-Jeung Lee, Professor in the Institute of Korean Studies at the Freie Universitat, Berlin Ketso Gordan, Former City Manager of Joburg and Advisor in the Presidency. Currently CEO of Pretoria Portland Cement (PPC) Chaired By Ferial Haffajee, Editor of City Press The Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA), Public Affairs Research Institute (PARI) and Friedrich Ebert Stiftung (FES) bring together a panel of major African and Asian scholars and thought leaders to share their views and experiences on the fortunes of post-independence governments. The panel discussion inaugurates a two day conference on 'African State Formation and Bureaucracy in Comparative Perspective' at the University of the Witwatersrand. ***Change of Venue*** The Panel Discussion will no longer be held at the PARI Offices. DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS: VENUE: Wits PDM, Donald Gordon Auditorium 2 St David's Place Parktown Campus DATE: 16 September 2013 TIME: 5.30 FOR 6.00pm RSVP: Mpho Mohapi mailto:mmoh...@pari.org.za mmoh...@pari.org.za http://mistra.updatemyprofile.com/r-budhuul-278312A3-jkkuldulty-o Edit your subscription | http://mailer.hemisphere-it.co.za/t/r-u-budhuul-jkkuldulty-b/ Unsubscribe instantly First Floor Cypress Place North Woodmead Business Park 142 Western Services Road Woodmead, Johannesburg 2191 www.mistra.org.za https://createsend1.com/t/r-o-budhuul-jkkuldulty/o.gif -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] Fw: PAC focuses on team building for 2014 elections
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: registrat...@timesmedia.co.za Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:47:38 To: tyamza...@yahoo.com Subject: PAC focuses on team building for 2014 elections Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and automatically archived by Mimecast SA (Pty) Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Mimecast Unified Email Management (UEM) offers email continuity, security, archiving and compliance with all current legislation. To find out more, visit http://www.mimecast.co.za/uem. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] Fw: FW: Policy
- Forwarded Message - From: mochas...@gmail.com mochas...@gmail.com To: jabumakha...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: FW: Policy -- Sent from my Nokia phone --Original message-- From: jabumakha...@yahoo.com jabumakha...@yahoo.com To: mochas...@gmail.com mochas...@gmail.com Date: Sunday, August 18, 2013 12:26:21 PM GMT+ Subject: FW: Policy -Original Message- From: jabumakha...@yahoo.com Sent: 18/08/2013, 12:51 pm To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Policy I denounce an idea that PAC leadership should not publicly advocate the PAC stance until such time policy conference is convened. PAC policies are bas ed on Pan Africanism and this ideology is clear both on domestic and intern ational arena. There is little significance for policy conference because t he post 1994 political dispensation has transformed SA into a neo-colony an d Pan Africanism is clear on how to resolve this. The current PAC leaders m ust put aside comfort-zones ambitions and begin mass-mobilisation programm es on burning issues such as landlessness, natural resources, education, pu blic infrastructues e.g ( people are forced to pay for the use of public to ilets and car-parkings in cities ) this is the highest form of capitalism. The continuous fuel-price hikes is the duty of the PAC to campaign against. Tax-payers's money is being wasted on brain-dead Nelson Mandela in hospita l. This money could subsidize fuel and public transport in this country. Th e PAC leadership is always mum on these issues. With the national elections approaching, we will blame a lack of funds for the party's failure to attr act voters. This is an excuse. People like to be leaders but they lack vis ion and they are cowards in confronting the system. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] FW: 7yr old boy and 4mnth old girl abducted and raped - is society at fault here?
http://links.causes.com/s/clLECY?r=XGsg A message from the campaign http://links.causes.com/s/clLECY?r=XGsg Stop Sexual Abuse Against Children in South Africa http://links.causes.com/s/clLECY?r=XGsg 7yr old boy and 4mnth old girl abducted and raped - is society at fault here? Seven year old boy and four month old baby girl abducted from their beds in the middle of the night and raped (Ceres district, South Africa). Children are being raped and abused on an unprecedented scale in South Africa. Questions: When will it end - South Africa is after all a civil country. What more can we do to root out this evil? Should the government be called to take much stronger preventative actions to safe-guard children? Should international human rights organisations step in and call the government to action? http://links.causes.com/s/clLECz?r=XGsg http://links.causes.com/s/clLECz?r=XGsg http://links.causes.com/s/clLECN?r=XGsg http://links.causes.com/s/clLECN?r=XGsg http://links.causes.com/s/clLECY?r=XGsg DISCUSS THE UPDATE Address: Causes, 88 Kearny St, Suite 2100, San Francisco, CA 94108 United States | http://www.causes.com/privacy?utm_campaign=post_mailer%2Fcause_updateutm_medium=emailutm_source=causesctag=219ca03f33cb2bdaa33699dbbeff8fed6fctoken=vxEjY4nvYBfKGL-wIqpDFd_xyI9ippUDcID2hVPTOCE7wZ9jUAuoJeb0I0QgpkH4dGpxdqPvuvG0T_WdCkSPNg%3D%3Duid=114509406 Privacy Policy Don't want to receive emails like this? http://links.causes.com/s/clLEDg?r=XGsgctag=219ca03f33cb2bdaa33699dbbeff8fed6fctoken=vxEjY4nvYBfKGL-wIqpDFd_xyI9ippUDcID2hVPTOCE7wZ9jUAuoJeb0I0QgpkH4dGpxdqPvuvG0T_WdCkSPNg%3D%3Duid=114509406 Block messages about this campaign • http://www.causes.com/unsubscribe?ansible_id=1146739cause_id=6686utm_campaign=post_mailer%2Fcause_updateutm_medium=emailutm_source=causesctag=219ca03f33cb2bdaa33699dbbeff8fed6fctoken=vxEjY4nvYBfKGL-wIqpDFd_xyI9ippUDcID2hVPTOCE7wZ9jUAuoJeb0I0QgpkH4dGpxdqPvuvG0T_WdCkSPNg%3D%3Duid=114509406 Manage my email settings http://ansible.causes.com/external/868/11802202/ping.gif -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
I dont understand moloto when you say i am out of order as you dont comunicate to the very branches that you say i must go as some of us voted during the congress.anyhow i am still waiting for my branch membership cards -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Narius Moloto g...@bcawu.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 8:42:23 AM GMT+0200 Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo You are out of order maleka go to your branch you cant pac on the social network.there no differences .the nec took decision in terms of the provisions of its constitution.opportunists and armed chair revolutionary resurrected everywhere.nec decisions are not subject of public opinion on social network by people who have little or no information because they are not part of party structures.the nec may decisions are now history.we are talking about new issues not the old stuff.what we are talking about is party unity at all levels.provincial congresses of eastern cape,Limpopo,Gauteng and western cape.we are also preparing for annual national conference starting 8 to 11 august 2013. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of a.r.mal...@gmail.com Sent: 28 June 2013 08:14 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com,isaacl@diplomat sa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,rammymfulw...@gmail.com,ratebogo@w ebmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com,smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekamana@fa cebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com,nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com,mabitseladavi d...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com,patrick.khumal o...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com,montja...@yahoo.com,takalani ligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwat l...@webmail.co.za,anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com,leoniea@mpi.metropo litan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com,tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlamini@y ahoo.com,phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com,aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co .za,luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com,kutie.thondlana@dov es.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com,payco@googlegroups .com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hotelicca@ iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgagudi@gma il.com,maiv...@pac.org.za,digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za, dannymonar...@gmail.com,khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,AliH@j oburg.org.za,frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.co m,victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com,mphasham1@webmai l.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com,ju-...@webmail.co. za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com,nancykob...@webmail.co.za,zndeka@hotmai l.com,crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisaacs@gma il.com,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com,sibekowilliam@y ahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com,rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha n...@yahoo.com,yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated
[PAYCO] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
-Original Message- From: jabumakha...@yahoo.com Sent: 05/07/2013, 5:02 pm To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) -Original Message- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Sent: 05/07/2013, 4:56 pm To: jabumakha...@yahoo.com Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification 501 Syntax error in arguments - Original message - Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:56:43 + From: jabumakha...@yahoo.com jabumakha...@yahoo.com To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: jabumakha...@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-NIMS-Source: em1x-86.lhr.messaging.nokia.com X-NIMS-User: jabumakhyahoo993062391166 X-NIMS-UGUID: 0xa3eaecdc83035b4d055289b575f7466c There have been so many suggestions on unity attempts in the PAC but wh= at l can assure my comrades is the fact that disunity in the party is n= ot an incident but a deliberate plan to personally satisfy certain indi= viduals. Unity will never be achieved until this aspect has been dealt = with. Someone would be dreaming to expect Letlapa and Narius to meet fo= rsake of unity. These two characters have no organisational ambitions b= ut they seek to build their personal empires. Even if unity can be brok= ered, these individuals will remain obsolete in the organisation. The o= nly solution is to completely get rid of them. =20 - End of message - -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
-Original Message- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Sent: 05/07/2013, 4:56 pm To: jabumakha...@yahoo.com Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification 501 Syntax error in arguments - Original message - Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:56:43 + From: jabumakha...@yahoo.com jabumakha...@yahoo.com To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: jabumakha...@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-NIMS-Source: em1x-86.lhr.messaging.nokia.com X-NIMS-User: jabumakhyahoo993062391166 X-NIMS-UGUID: 0xa3eaecdc83035b4d055289b575f7466c There have been so many suggestions on unity attempts in the PAC but wh= at l can assure my comrades is the fact that disunity in the party is n= ot an incident but a deliberate plan to personally satisfy certain indi= viduals. Unity will never be achieved until this aspect has been dealt = with. Someone would be dreaming to expect Letlapa and Narius to meet fo= rsake of unity. These two characters have no organisational ambitions b= ut they seek to build their personal empires. Even if unity can be brok= ered, these individuals will remain obsolete in the organisation. The o= nly solution is to completely get rid of them. =20 - End of message - -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
Mo-Afrika Maleka Your assessment is 100% correct, the continuing infighting within the NEC Split Into Two damages the image and integrity of the PAC. 2014 national elections are around the corner, there are no indications for preparations as PAC we will either retain or loose the same one (1) seat. Indeed, these are painful moments in which deep rooted factionalism ravages the party. The 11th May, meeting is nothing else but a palace coup de tat. Also, crying about this occurrences matters less, PAC members and branches should unite on the basis of the PAC constitution, denounce factionalist leadership hiding in the words such as 'unity'. Members must build strong and vibrant branches as a form of defending the PAC and for advancing the five (5) Aims and Objectives of the PAC. Shango lashu Nkrumah -Original Message- From: a.r.mal...@gmail.com [mailto:a.r.mal...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 June 2013 08:14 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com,isa...@diplomatsa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,rammymfulw...@gmail.com,rateb...@webmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com,smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekam...@facebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com,nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com,mabitselada...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com,patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com,montja...@yahoo.com,takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwa...@webmail.co.za,anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com,leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com,tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com,phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com,aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za,luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com,kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com,payco@googlegroups.com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hoteli...@iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgag...@gmail.com,maiv...@pac.org.za,digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za,dannymonar...@gmail.com,khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,a...@joburg.org.za,frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com,victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com,mphash...@webmail.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com,ju-...@webmail.co.za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com,nancykob...@webmail.co.za,znd...@hotmail.com,crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisa...@gmail.com,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com,sibekowill...@yahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com,rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha...@yahoo.com,yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated to: 26 June 2009 UNIFORM RULES OF COURT1* RULES REGULATING THE CONDUCT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVERAL PROVINCIAL AND LOCAL DIVISIONS OF THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 49 Civil Appeals from the High Court (1) (a) When leave to appeal is required, it may on a statement of the grounds therefor be requested at the time of the judgment or order. Section (11) States that Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against
RE: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
You are out of order maleka go to your branch you cant pac on the social network.there no differences .the nec took decision in terms of the provisions of its constitution.opportunists and armed chair revolutionary resurrected everywhere.nec decisions are not subject of public opinion on social network by people who have little or no information because they are not part of party structures.the nec may decisions are now history.we are talking about new issues not the old stuff.what we are talking about is party unity at all levels.provincial congresses of eastern cape,Limpopo,Gauteng and western cape.we are also preparing for annual national conference starting 8 to 11 august 2013. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of a.r.mal...@gmail.com Sent: 28 June 2013 08:14 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com,isaacl@diplomat sa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,rammymfulw...@gmail.com,ratebogo@w ebmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com,smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekamana@fa cebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com,nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com,mabitseladavi d...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com,patrick.khumal o...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com,montja...@yahoo.com,takalani ligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwat l...@webmail.co.za,anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com,leoniea@mpi.metropo litan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com,tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlamini@y ahoo.com,phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com,aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co .za,luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com,kutie.thondlana@dov es.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com,payco@googlegroups .com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hotelicca@ iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgagudi@gma il.com,maiv...@pac.org.za,digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za, dannymonar...@gmail.com,khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,AliH@j oburg.org.za,frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.co m,victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com,mphasham1@webmai l.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com,ju-...@webmail.co. za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com,nancykob...@webmail.co.za,zndeka@hotmai l.com,crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisaacs@gma il.com,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com,sibekowilliam@y ahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com,rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha n...@yahoo.com,yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated to: 26 June 2009 UNIFORM RULES OF COURT1* RULES REGULATING THE CONDUCT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVERAL PROVINCIAL AND LOCAL DIVISIONS OF THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 49 Civil Appeals from the High Court (1) (a) When leave to appeal is required, it may on a statement of the grounds therefor be requested at the time of the judgment or order. Section (11) States that Where an appeal has been noted or an application
Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com,isa...@diplomatsa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,rammymfulw...@gmail.com,rateb...@webmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com,smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekam...@facebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com,nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com,mabitselada...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com,patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com,montja...@yahoo.com,takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwa...@webmail.co.za,anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com,leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com,tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com,phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com,aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za,luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com,kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com,payco@googlegroups.com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hoteli...@iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgag...@gmail.com,maiv...@pac.org.za,digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za,dannymonar...@gmail.com,khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,a...@joburg.org.za,frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com,victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com,mphash...@webmail.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com,ju-...@webmail.co.za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com,nancykob...@webmail.co.za,znd...@hotmail.com,crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisa...@gmail.com,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com,sibekowill...@yahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com,rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha...@yahoo.com,yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated to: 26 June 2009 UNIFORM RULES OF COURT1* RULES REGULATING THE CONDUCT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVERAL PROVINCIAL AND LOCAL DIVISIONS OF THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 49 Civil Appeals from the High Court (1) (a) When leave to appeal is required, it may on a statement of the grounds therefor be requested at the time of the judgment or order. Section (11) States that Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended, pending the decision of such appeal or application, unless the court which gave such order, on the application of a party, otherwise directs. Comments:- The understanding one has of Rule 49 is that the operationalization and implementation of the Court Case NO: 13/19023 Judgement is held-up, on the grounds that the leave of appeal is not yet decided or settled or awaiting conclusion or confirmation, or unless the court which made the judgement directs! It worth to note that suspension imply/means holdup or held-up, it does not imply nullification of judgement nor reinstating the conditions that existed before the 14 June 2013 court judgement. It is also unclear that because the rule so says 'suspension, it therefore given that the judgement is held-up without the court pronouncing as such! And also that it is common knowledge that post filing of the leave of appeal
Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
M'Afrika Maleka You are correct and 100% correct, the state of conditions in the PAC is seriously painful, no sane leader and person can be boostful. The current leadership should rise above mediocrity in the best interests of the image of PAC, party members should equally rise above mediocrity to defend and advance the Pan Africanist Agenda. Secondly, as members and branches as we continue in building the party amd consolidating gains made we should aslo seriously review methods we use when considering party leadership. Parachuting people into leadership should be a thing of the past, party leadership across all party structures should emerge from the active party members who have undertaken to perform PAC political work without taking leave and comfort days from the struggles. Above all, as members and branches we must keep the PAC boat floating and moving forward! Shango lashu! Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi On 28 Jun 2013 20:13, a.r.mal...@gmail.com wrote: MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com, isa...@diplomatsa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, rammymfulw...@gmail.com,rateb...@webmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com, smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekam...@facebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za ,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com, mabitselada...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com, patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com, montja...@yahoo.com,takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com ,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwa...@webmail.co.za, anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com, leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com, tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com, aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za, luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com, kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com ,payco@googlegroups.com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za, baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hoteli...@iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za ,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgag...@gmail.com,maiv...@pac.org.za, digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za,dannymonar...@gmail.com, khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,a...@joburg.org.za, frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com, victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com, mphash...@webmail.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com, ju-...@webmail.co.za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com, nancykob...@webmail.co.za,znd...@hotmail.com, crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisa...@gmail.com ,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com, sibekowill...@yahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com, rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha...@yahoo.com, yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated to: 26 June 2009 UNIFORM RULES OF COURT1* RULES REGULATING THE CONDUCT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVERAL PROVINCIAL AND LOCAL DIVISIONS OF THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 49 Civil Appeals from the High Court (1) (a) When leave to appeal is required, it may on a statement of the grounds therefor be requested at the time of the judgment or order. Section (11) States that Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal
[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Senior Process Controller - Pumping
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Secretary Admin Assistant - HR
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On 17 May 2013 16:40, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Narius Moloto s...@pac.org.za Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 16:38:51 To: i...@bataufc.com; d...@pac.org.za; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; mja...@pac.org.za; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; richardma...@yahoo.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; mapulanko...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; ptob...@yahoo.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; montja...@yahoo.com; maiv...@pac.org.za; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za; tamulau...@hotmail.com; lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com; lennox.maqw...@gmail.com; apap...@webmail.co.za; khesisep...@yahoo.com; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; jmdy...@gmail.com; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; ms...@webmail.co.za; bj.tsote...@gmail.com; 'BONGOZILE MBELESI'bqu...@workmail.co.za; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; maqetu...@gmail.co.za Subject: Dear Comrades PAC has successfully interdicted Letlapa Mphahlele from holding the so called NEC meeting tomorrow at Vaal. Attached is the order from the Registar. This means that he cannot call the NEC meeting, he is the former President. Regards Narius Moloto Secretary General -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[PAYCO] FW: NACTU's DEMISE CAN BE SALVAGED BY WORKERS AND PRINCIPLED TRADE UNION LEADERSHIP AND PAC HAS INTEREST
Politically Marikana and entire Platinum industrial areas had become a highly contested political terrain by various AMCU and political movements since the 2012 protest and massacre of 34 mineworkers. And after many years of poorly attended May day rallies, it was very impressive and encouraging to witness NACTU's 2013 MAY day success achieved through AMCU as a host affiliate. The membership numeric growth of AMCU signifies what shop floor based mobilization of workers sustained through workers' determination to fulfil immediate demands of workers to grow a trade union and a trade union federation such as NACTU. Commonly May Day rallies serve to strengthen workers' unity and solidarity, thus federations will mobilise workers through trade unions across all industries as pivotal so as to inject the spirit workers' solidarity against the rising unemployment, cost of living and retrenchment. AMCU's ability and success to mobilise the mass of workers must be commended as its dominance remain undisputed, but the general attendance by other NACTU affiliates at the MAY day held in Marikana at Wonderkop stadium was generally disappointing, and this exposes the scarcity of required leadership and organizational capabilities in NACTU to mobilise and organise workers across all industries. The absence of NACTU affiliates that has a significant membership such as MEWUSA, SACWU, PEU, MWASA, NPSWU and Hotellica with banners and t-shirts was vocal. AMCU did not dominate the MAY Day Rally it was the only trade union affiliate of NACTU. Evidently NACTU leadership had dismally failed to organise the entire industrial and public sector workers on a common and basic principle of working class unity and solidarity. In the last three years NACTU lost majority of its official and closed all provincial and regional offices consequently, NACTU lacks the required operational capability to drive campaign and basic administration. One is just wondering what is happening to hard earned workers subscriptions that they pay to NACTU. Demise of NACTU including absence of a clear PAC strategy to galvanise workers and trade unions requires full and urgent attention. The membership numeric growth of AMCU obviously translates to some form of financial injection in terms of monthly subscriptions for both AMCU and NACTU. However such gains do not necessary translate to political and organisational for NACTU in terms of organisational capability for mobilisation of workers and influencing public policy discourse based on the working class constructed political agenda. The recent particularly the May Day event exposes NACTU's organisational weaknesses and limitations. NACTU's loss of key official such as Mahlomola Skhosana (former Deputy Secretary General, Siphiwo Ganca (Labour Market Analyst), Brenda Modise (Gender Coordinator), Moemedi Keapadisa (National Education Coordinator), Provincial Coordinators and other administrative staff NACTU's resulted to current state whereat NACTU lacks organisational capabilities to drive strategy and influence public policy defending and advancing the interests of workers. The high membership of AMCU does not necessary translate to immediate and long terms organisational gains for NACTU in terms of shaping public policy and influencing decision making in NEDLAC, Presidential Task Teams and other public institutions. The General Secretary of NACTU will he rise to demand of resolving the ailing and limping NACTU when he also holds two equally demanding same position in the BCAWU and PAC, logic and common sense dictate that two of the three formations namely PAC, NACTU and BCAWU will suffer from non-delivery from the office of the Secretary General. NACTU's office of the Secretary General similar to a determine and thoughtful political party or trade union is a daunting task which requires a full time official to focus on driving operationalization of the organisational strategy to achieve the desired impact on national public policy discourse, one wonders of the injustice that will arise from a man holding three demanding positions, evidently someone is been taken for a ride. NACTU and particularly AMCU will only thrive if there is a deliberate strategy focused on future levels of trade unionism noting the low membership numbers among young workers. The bargaining power of trade unions in times of high unemployment, combined with the new structure of workplace organisations and the predominance of small organisations, has been severely eroded and worsened by trade union leadership holding shares in companies thus sharing a common interests with the same capitalist exploitative class. AMCU should build shop floor capabilities among shop stewards so to effectively intervene to protect the members against unfair dismissals and stop retrenchments. This is particularly true for mining and manufacturing industries, where retrenchments are commonplace, and the levels of job insecurity are particularly high.
[PAYCO] FW: PAN AFRICANIST CONGRESS OF AZANIA WINS A WARD- BRANCHES AND MEMBERS SHOULD BUILD AND CONSOLIDATE THE GAINS
Izwe lethu M'Afrika Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (PAC) branch members M'Afrika Thomani Paul Thabela in Thulamela Municipality won Ward 33 in Thulamela [Thohoyandou] Municipality - LIM343. 8054 registered voters with 41% poll, PAC achieved 49.75% of the votes. The seat was previously represented by the African National Congress. The Electoral Commission (IEC) said the African National Congress won 10 of the 19 municipal ward by-elections which took place on Wednesday, 24 April 2013. Of the remaining seats, five went to the Democratic Alliance and three went to the Independent Candidates, whereas Pan Africanist Congress of Azania won one seat. Voter turnout varied between 73,33% and 19,50% with an average of 33.03%. Results as on: 2013/04/26 04:22:12 PM Province Municipality Ward Ward Winner Party % Support for Elected Candidate Registered Population Total Votes Cast % Poll Spoilt Votes % Spoilt Votes LIMPOPO LIM343 - THULAMELA [THOHOYANDOU] 93403033 THOMANI PAUL THABELA PAN AFRICANIST CONGRESS OF AZANIA 49.75% 8054 3364 41.77% 11 0.33% The community members who voted PAC demonstrates the potential PAC has when it serves the masses and frees them from exploitative neo-liberal policies of the capitalist system. After months of political depression we are inspired by the political and organisational success brought by the PAC Branch of Thulamela Municipality confirms the position and view that focused political work based on organisational discipline in which party political work includes mainly PAC structures forming part of the daily struggles of communities and at industrial areas. The branches are the basic unit of the party, if we build politically vibrant and functional structures that are visible in daily struggles of communities and form part of the community lifeline, surely victory is certain. Branches and regional structures should focus their eyes and become active on all and any community and industrial areas issues, through members' and branch activism surely PAC branches and the party as whole can rise from the ashes. PAC members and branches should form part of workers protest in regards wages increases and improvement of working conditions, branches and regions should deploy PAC members to join workers protests and identify with workers in their daily struggles. As PAC members and branches we should strengthen workers' and communities fighting capacity and organisation around their immediate socio-economic demands. Slogans and songs without mass work and focused political mass agitation are meaningless. Again one can use the popular Christian source of information and guidance The Bible, the Scripture of James 2 verse 14 - 17 states that What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. It is not enough and well of us to pride our-selves about being ideologically grounded and Pan Africanism as an indisputable vision to resolve Africa's problem but as members and structures' actions fail to show and inspire masses to follow the PAC. Our branches should have dedicated days in a month for community general meetings to deliberate with community members about community problems and envisaged solutions, it must be customary for every PAC branch and members to deliberate and report on community issues related to service delivery, effective teaching and learning in school, free access (non-exclusion) at schools- FET Colleges-Universities, access to food, employment, electricity, water, community safety, road conditions, sanitation, services in clinics and hospitals, expose and condemn those who sexually violate and harass women; PAC branches and members should take all issues and any community issues; branches and members should also visit industrial areas and workplaces to organise and agitate workers, branches, regions and members should fill the political space and create platforms for mass mobilisation and organisation including providing political-ideological education to the masses. Branches and members should form operative units of less than ten party members deployed to execute various political tasks as determined by the region and branch. Operative political units should focus in fulfilling the role to expand the party's political influence and growth within targeted communities, mass agitation and mobilisation, provide political education, membership recruitment; Wards should be categorised in the form of blocks/ section each having a unit deployed to serve and execute its political role as an
[PAYCO] FW: Instrument Assistant
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[PAYCO] FW: Senior Process Supervisor
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[PAYCO] FW: PSO 12-12 (Barrage).docx
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy : Workshop Assistant (Electrical)
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Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You could never discern any manifest of short-cut or parachutte in his mannerism and thought pattern. He is certainly a loss to the movement. He is a true PAC, he gave his life, the largest part of his active life, to this organisation. As we mourn his passing we also bow in respect and in gratitude for building and bestowing unto us the monument of the PAC. This is just as much the case for our great leaders as Theo Mabusela and Ntoele who are also no more. May their soul rest in peace. I must add that TF was very shrewed and might I also say street wise too. In him you see why as boys they ruled the streets of Azania. The way he walked, his dress codea revolutionary pantsula. The way he will roast you in debate and retreat into his laughter near hand covered to throw some humour to your hammering. His choice of words to describe sell-outs you would laugh your lungs off. Damn we will miss the comrade. Above all he is our leader and a great servant of our liberation struggle. I hope one day we will rise so we allot these comrades their national hero status. Afrika our land. Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:22:10 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You could never discern any manifest of short-cut or parachutte in his mannerism and thought pattern. He is certainly a loss to the movement. He is a true PAC, he gave his life, the largest part of his active life, to this organisation. As we mourn his passing we also bow in respect and in gratitude for building and bestowing unto us the monument of the PAC. This is just as much the case for our great leaders as Theo Mabusela and Ntoele who are also no more. May their soul rest in peace. I must add that TF was very shrewed and might I also say street wise too. In him you see why as boys they ruled the streets of Azania. The way he walked, his dress codea revolutionary pantsula. The way he will roast you in debate and retreat into his laughter near hand covered to throw some humour to your hammering. His choice of words to describe sell-outs you would laugh your lungs off. Damn we will miss the comrade. Above all he is our leader and a great servant of our liberation struggle. I hope one day we will rise so we allot these comrades their national hero status. Afrika our land. Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:22:10 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
Afrikanists, We have just been informed that the Memorial Service of one of the last standing AFRIKANISTS Ntate Philimon Matlakana Tefu will be held as follows: Venue: OuRaad Saal (Pretoria CBD Church Square) Time: 10:00am Date: 18 (Sunday) November 2012 Afrika ke ya Rena Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: mmas...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:08:56 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You could never discern any manifest of short-cut or parachutte in his mannerism and thought pattern. He is certainly a loss to the movement. He is a true PAC, he gave his life, the largest part of his active life, to this organisation. As we mourn his passing we also bow in respect and in gratitude for building and bestowing unto us the monument of the PAC. This is just as much the case for our great leaders as Theo Mabusela and Ntoele who are also no more. May their soul rest in peace. I must add that TF was very shrewed and might I also say street wise too. In him you see why as boys they ruled the streets of Azania. The way he walked, his dress codea revolutionary pantsula. The way he will roast you in debate and retreat into his laughter near hand covered to throw some humour to your hammering. His choice of words to describe sell-outs you would laugh your lungs off. Damn we will miss the comrade. Above all he is our leader and a great servant of our liberation struggle. I hope one day we will rise so we allot these comrades their national hero status. Afrika our land. Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:22:10 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
We shall all meet there. On Nov 15, 2012 4:32 PM, leag...@yahoo.com wrote: Afrikanists, We have just been informed that the Memorial Service of one of the last standing AFRIKANISTS Ntate Philimon Matlakana Tefu will be held as follows: Venue: OuRaad Saal (Pretoria CBD Church Square) Time: 10:00am Date: 18 (Sunday) November 2012 Afrika ke ya Rena Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: mmas...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:08:56 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You could never discern any manifest of short-cut or parachutte in his mannerism and thought pattern. He is certainly a loss to the movement. He is a true PAC, he gave his life, the largest part of his active life, to this organisation. As we mourn his passing we also bow in respect and in gratitude for building and bestowing unto us the monument of the PAC. This is just as much the case for our great leaders as Theo Mabusela and Ntoele who are also no more. May their soul rest in peace. I must add that TF was very shrewed and might I also say street wise too. In him you see why as boys they ruled the streets of Azania. The way he walked, his dress codea revolutionary pantsula. The way he will roast you in debate and retreat into his laughter near hand covered to throw some humour to your hammering. His choice of words to describe sell-outs you would laugh your lungs off. Damn we will miss the comrade. Above all he is our leader and a great servant of our liberation struggle. I hope one day we will rise so we allot these comrades their national hero status. Afrika our land. Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:22:10 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website
[PAYCO] Fw: Eina!!!!!: Brilliant, brilliant letter - please pass to all South Africans to read
FYI A letter that says it all...and in such a way that it gives hope for the future of South Africa if more of our youth think this way! Open letter by the daughter of Tokyo Sexwale. Open letter to the surviving Rivonia Trialists Kay Sexwale Dear Ahmed Kathrada, Andre w Mlangeni, Dennis Goldberg and Nelson Mandela, I greet you all in the name of the continuing economic freedom struggle of our people. Your courage in fighting for the emancipation of our country is greatly appreciated. I was fed ANC propaganda with my Purity baby food, but I believe the time has come to consciously choose South Africa over the ANC. The governing party, for many, is like a religion, followed by many without question or doubt. Surely comrades, your sacrifices were not for a one-party, one-trade union state? The time for a younger, patriotic and selfless leadership, like yours in 1964, is here. The thinking public laments our bumpy transition from liberation movement to political party, with some pointing out that a liberation movement has to be centralised and secretive while a modern party in government must be influenced by its members and society, and so be more transparent. The loss of public trust through daily media exposure of the plague of government corruption, which appears to be condoned by the ANC, is deeply seated. The public perception is that the Mangaung leadership debate will boil down to who will continue to allow rampant looting of state resources, the dangerous slippery slope of tribalism, or who might make a difference. Truth be told, the names being bandied about as top contenders are all synonymous with the rot that plagues the movement. The masses so loved by political party leaders at election time have taken to the streets to voice their dissatisfaction. Earlier this year, even middle-class armchair critics put on their designer sneakers and marched against e-tolling, also reportedly shrouded in corruption and an added burden on our ridiculously taxed wallets. In March, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa informed Parliament that between 2007 and 2010, the most common reason for police crowd management of gatherings was labour-related demands for increases in wages, and that unrest requiring police intervention was related to service delivery issues. Later in June, City Press reported that 372 protests related to service delivery had been recorded between January and the end of May this year alone. In 18 years of democracy, we can still blame apartheid for many social ills, but we must also blame our leaders. The disgraceful and shocking non-delivery of textbooks in Limpopo left me cold. But the worst thing that broke the soul of South Africa during this fateful year of the ANC’s centenary was the shameful Marikana massacre, reminiscent of the Sharpeville slaughter. It highlighted aspects of every ill plaguing black society under an ANC-led government: police brutality, wage strikes, corporate greed, failure of natural mineral resource redistribution, flawed implementation of black economic empowerment, violent crime, service-delivery failure, including inhumane slum settlements, unemployment concerns and much more. The man who shoved his way to the front, taking the reins of leadership in this sorry mess, was Julius Malema, a spat-out child of the movement. In the space of a few days, he single-handedly nullified what little trust I had left in the aging ANC leadership. I was raised by courageous men and women, people like you, the Rivonia Trialists, who now need me to tell them it’s time to let go. The ANC has never been as self-destructive as it is today. Cosatu, the ANC-aligned trade union federation, has driven the economy into free fall as the failure of their collective bargaining strategy, designed to perpetuate the racist status quo, is blowing up in our faces with one strike after another. I’m waiting for them to stop blaming third-force right wing elements and take some responsibility. And let me not get started on the recent madness of more than R200 million-worth of Nkandla renovations, SAA’s R5 billion bailout and the relentless e-toll attitude of government. In 2009, I took longer than usual to vote in the booth, agonising over putting an X next to the face of a man I instinctively knew was bad news. My love for the ANC won over my reservations. In last year’s local government elections, I rebelled, voting for the ANC in my neighbourhood and for another party in the city. I am sure Joburg Mayor Parks Tau is capable, but my rebellion against a President Jacob Zuma-led ANC began with that ballot paper. To not vote at all in 2014, as many are threatening, will be to dishonour the memory of my uncle, Lesetja Sexwale, and his many fallen comrades who died in combat for my right to vote. It will be to
[PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost...
May his soul RIP, he was a staunch Pan Afrikanist to the end. I always liked his Scientific analysis and Philosophical positions. A true Sobukweist and Nkrumaist in advancing and moving beyond their political thoughts in line with the current dynamics. I advised the late TF to write a book and has agreed to recollect all his many thought provoking papers on Pan Africanism positions. Indeed he was in his own league ideologically, really a tower by all standards. One is really saddened by his demise. RIP TF. R/ BRIZA. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:34:58 To: PAYCOpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... A teacher indeed with a great sense of humour and an Africanist to the end...I'm speechless Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:22:10 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPpayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... RIP to this tireless teacher. We would hold workshops/political classes almost daily for years. He always had a political or ideological point to ponder or reflect on. He did this with any person, anywhere. Whether its fellow countrymen at a bus stop waiting for transport home or a visitor to office. TF held political dialogues with everyone, given an opportunity. He also struck me with his knowledge of various disciplines. He was never afraid to take a different view and always continued to challenge any established position, view, idea, political or ideological line if he had reason to. A very engaging person. Most of the times he would reduce his ideas in writing and ask for your opinion. One not afraid of debate because he had a solid political and ideological grounding. He was also well read in revolutionary theory, various political and history literature. He could hold his own. If you were to stand against him on any issue, you needed to know your story very well. Because of his firm grasp of historical and dialectic materialism, and shrewd use of the tools in debate on the Robben Island, he tells me he was often accused of being a marxist by his fellow Africanists. However in the past few years he took on a pure African nationalist position which fell short of addressing the social and class question. He continued debating these questions. A lot can be said about this gallant son of the soil. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: leag...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:10:58 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Afrikanists, I have just received an sms below: -- SMS -- From: Received: Nov 13, 2012 22:50 Subject: Ma-Africa once again we have lost... Ma-Africa once again we have lost one of the stalwarts of our struggle, TF Philemon Tefu, he is no more, he has joined Benny Ntoele in the world of our martyrs. Saki Mafatshe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com http://www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] Fw: NigerianID | Brazil in Africa: Just Another BRICS Country Seeking Resources?
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:46 AM Subject: NigerianID | Brazil in Africa: Just Another BRICS Country Seeking Resources? This document hightlights that Brazil has significantly stepped up its economic engagement in Africa during the last decade, however, it has gone largely unnoticed by international media and academia. [ Attachment 1: Download Resource (.pdf) ] __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to senderReply to groupStart a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity:* New Members 5 Visit Your Group No part of any discussion on NigerianID may be used, quoted, or referred to, without the express permission of the individual author, or the Chief moderator All discussions on NigerianID are the express property of the author and NigerianID. Copyright 2006-2012. NigerianID. All Rights Reserved. Nigerians In Diaspora Organization. Our mission is to promote the spirit of patriotism, networking, and cooperation among Nigerians in Diaspora Donate your used Glasses to the Seeing Changes the View Nigeria Project at http://www.proudNigerians.org and help someone today. ProudNigerians.Org is an informal movement of like-minded people who wants to see incremental changes in Nigeria and who are leading by taking simple actions and paying it forward. Mobilizing the people is our primary goal. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] Fw: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:04:24 To: Advocate Richard K Sizanisizan...@mweb.co.za; Hulisani Mmbarammbar...@hotmail.com; Masoga Mphirimphi...@gmail.com; Sbusiso Xabasbusiso.x...@gmail.com; MmAfrika Nofumapaccapeme...@webmail.co.za; Phillip Dlaminiphillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; Albert Mokoenamokoen...@workmail.co.za; seethrowprojectsseethrowproje...@yahoo.com; Justice Mvakaliaplamvanatio...@gmail.com; Pinkie Monyanemonyanepin...@gmail.com; L J Lekgwathi0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Itumeleng Mekgwentshetshan...@gmail.com; Xola Tyamzashetyamza...@yahoo.com; Xola Trevor Mketixt2mk...@hotmail.com; Tembelani Xunduttxu...@yahoo.com; william nkonyeniwnkony...@webmail.co.za Reply-To: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Subject: Fw: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012 Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:25:34 To: Sam Ditshegosditsh...@ymail.com Reply-To: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012 Izwe lethu mmAfika Ditshego As mentioned and as you acknowledge that the Tshwane Congress event was long proposed and invites were forwarded more than two months back. Due to the PAC being visible in the area, there are no less than 12 branches in the area. The masses need the PAC more than ever before, this was proven amongst other things by the developments I Marikana. The Marikana leadership came to an event/rally hosted by the Tshwane PAC Region in their honour a few weeks back and they requested that we assist them in establishing a branch there. We support all initiatives that make the PAC visible, what is of utmost importance however is that the PAC needs structures. The West Rand was one of the strongest bases the PAC had in the country, with many leaders and APLA cadres from that area. It is equally sad that many APLA members, for different reasons, are let alone not PAC members and do not belong to party structures they have taken a back seat in terms of taking their responsibility as party cadres. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sam Ditshego sditsh...@ymail.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:05:25 To: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012 thanks for the prompt response, tshwane region. i think the points raised in your response are valid. i know from my experience where i live. there is no branch, let alone a regional structure although there are efforts to establish a branch. i am also aware that this tshwane regional congress has long been in the cards. i received a notification via an email on this regional congress about two months ago. i still have that notification in my email inbox. -- On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 8:52 PM PDT pactshwanereg...@gmail.com wrote: Cde Ditshego Pretoria is having a Regional Congress on Saturday and the 51st Commemoration of APLA Day on Sunday is not a parallel event. Cape Town and Limpopo are also hosting the event on Saturday. We always acknowledge that part of the reason our beloved is in a mess is that we have no existing structures. Pretoria is the only region in Gauteng that has at least 10 branches. Gauteng as a province virtually does not exist, all we have are loyal members, who have all the solutions but are not members of branches. As a result events are bypassing us because we are not organized. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sam Ditshego sditsh...@ymail.com Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:27:00 To: mmbar...@hotmail.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; lumki...@yahoo.co.uk; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; a...@lantic.net; asnziw...@hotmail.com; mja...@pac.org.za; paycoofaza...@gmail.com; bababu...@gmail.com; baliwin...@yahoo.com; ghad_ay...@yahoo.com; mabe...@hotmail.com; bri...@gmail.com; edmfulw...@classicmail.com; cedricmast...@gmail.com; camagu.z...@yahoo.com; clementmar...@yahoo.com; czw...@telkomsa.net; princed...@gmail.com; drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; dzu...@live.com; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; ezh...@gmail.com; standingovat...@webmail.co.za; mr.fi...@lantic.net; mr.fi...@webmail.co.za; mzwandile.gu...@yahoo.com; g...@bcawu.co.za; gcobaniimazib...@gmail.com; gwa...@sabc.co.za; lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com; mbulelohlab...@yahoo.com; motjuwa...@sowetan.co.za; itumelengjohn...@yahoo.com; ntshetshan...@gmail.com; jmapla...@gmail.com; masin...@gmail.com; ombuds...@presscouncil.org.za; jntab...@gmail.com; mohlalateb...@gmail.com; pakgos...@lantic.net; malusiko...@mtn.blackberry.com; leag...@yahoo.com; petram...@webmail.co.za;
[PAYCO] Fw: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: mr.fi...@webmail.co.za Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:43:01 To: monyanepin...@gmail.com; mmbar...@hotmail.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; lumki...@yahoo.co.uk; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za; a...@lantic.net; asnziw...@hotmail.com; mja...@pac.org.za; paycoofaza...@gmail.com; bababu...@gmail.com; baliwin...@yahoo.com; ghad_ay...@yahoo.com Reply-To: mr.fi...@webmail.co.za Cc: pactshwanereg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: TSHWANE REGIONAL CONGRESS AND APLA 51st COMMEMMORATION 2012 Ma Afrika cdes Pinkie and Mbara are correct. We really need to mature and sort things out amongst ourselves rather than appear to be competing over nothing. To commemorate APLA Day is a duty and not a point scoring excercise. We also are a structure serving one purpose and this purpose far outweighs selfish interests. Let's therefore co-ordinate our efforts and focus on success rather than on trivial power struggle issues. I have noted that cde PD has also issued an invitation for the APLA Day occassion. Please let us co-ordinate so that we do not end up confusing party members. Cdes PD and Benny could you please resolve this matter and avoid the confusion you are plunging us into. Fihla -- Sent via Nokia Email -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: Jozi Skills Hub facilitated Internship Programme
From: tebogom...@joburg.org.za [mailto:tebogom...@joburg.org.za] Sent: 10 September 2012 08:29 AM To: cleo.bodibe-lush...@gauteng.gov.za; mothibi.mohom...@gauteng.gov.za; vinoliak...@yahoo.com; mba...@primedia.co.za; the...@seriti.org.za; Sebenzile Mlaza; lebogang.mok...@yahoo.com; amol...@fnb.co.za; motok...@gmail.com; motsoenetsen...@gmail.com; mnye...@lovelife.org.za; nkulule...@hpcsa.co.za; mashite...@saps.org.za; balats...@saps.org.za; dtlhabanel...@gmail.com; tlhabane...@aforbes.co.za; stella.tlhaban...@za.nampak.com; karabo.tselany...@gmail.com; abz...@gmail.com; kliptowns...@saps.org.za; gp.edoradopark.s...@saps.gov.za; dobsonville-s...@saps.org.za Subject: Jozi Skills Hub facilitated Internship Programme [cid:image-71-27369@brand.joburg.org.za] Dear CoJ The Jozi Skills Hub is an implementing agent for Skills Development related initiatives of the City. The Jozi Skills Hub as a COJ supported initiative will be facilitating an Internship Programme with its key stakeholders. Qualifying individuals can apply through the Skills Unit of the Department of Economic Development in the City of Johannesburg. Applications must be submitted on or before 11 September 2012 2pm, any applications thereafter will not be considered. The Internship programme will run for a period of 6 months. An internship is a directed, practical learning experience, outside of the normal classroom setting, in which learners sharpen skills, gain experience, apply classroom learning to professional settings or projects, and learn first hand how organisations operate. Applicants must have the following: *Diploma, degree or equivalent; *Resident of the City of Johannesburg; *Good working knowledge of English (verbal and written); *Good interpersonal skills; *Computer skills; *Declaration of criminal record; *Must be between 18 and 35 years, woman and/or people with disabilities may apply (Unemployed). To apply forward a two-page CV to skillsu...@joburg.org.za or fax it to 086 542 1415/ Fax: 086 588 7859 and indicate your preferred position. Include the following in your submission: *Certified copy of ID *Proof of residence *Matric certificate and Copy of qualifications JOB AREAS NUMBER OF LEARNERS DURATION ENTRY REQUIREMENTS ODETDP (Occupationally Directed Education Training Development Practice) 30 06 Months Grade 12 or equivalent and ETD certificate on NQF level 4 IT Support 30 06 Months Diploma/Degree IT Development 30 06 Months Diploma/Degree Contact Centre Management 30 06 Months Diploma/Degree Supply Chain 10 06 Months Diploma/Degree Warehouse Management 10 06 Months Diploma/Degree Web Development and Design 10 06 Months Diploma/Degree Sales Marketing 4 06 Months Diploma/Degree Project Management Human Resources Finance 30 15 15 06 Months 06 Months 06 Months Diploma/Degree Diploma/Degree Diploma/Degree All applicants must have a diploma and/or degree in the respective job areas. Applicant who have participated in a learnerships (submit proof) in these job areas may also apply. Qualifying Individuals who have registered on the Skills Units Labour Market Information Database will be considered and need not apply. Ms.Tebogo Morake City Of Joburg Office of the Chief of Police Johannesburg Metropolitan Police Department (JMPD) Youth Development Programmes Tel : 011 758 9140/39 Cell : 071 605 4296 E-Fax/Fax2Email : 011 727 0660 Fax : 011 758 9200 Email : tebogom...@joburg.org.za SOMETIMES THE CHAINS THAT PREVENT US FROM BEING FREE ARE MORE MENTAL THAN PHYSICAL... __ The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. Please note that the recipient must scan this e-mail and any attached files, for viruses and the like. While we do everything possible to protect information from viruses, the City of Johannesburg accepts no liability of whatever nature for any loss, liability, damage or expense resulting directly or indirectly from the access and/or downloading of any files which are attached to this e-mail message. __ -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com inline: RSImage.gif
[PAYCO] FW: Interns Required
KLM Empowered is looking for Internship positions in various fields of study to be filled in Bruma, Johannesburg, but not limited to Bruma (Interns have a probability of being placed anywhere within Gauteng (between Johannesburg and Pretoria). Probable dates of Internship commencement is 1 September 2012, for a period of six months with a possibility of contractual work or permanency on completion of the Internship. Stipend range: R3000.00 The following interns are required to commence from September 2012: * Qualified B.Com graduates preferably with Cost and Management Accounting; * Qualified B.Com graduates: Supply Chain Management; * Qualified B.Com graduates: Warehouse Management; * Qualified B.Com graduates: HR or Diploma in HR; * Qualified B.Com graduates: Occupationally Directed Education,Training Development Practices(ODETDP) or National Diploma; * Qualified B.Com Marketing or Diploma in Sales Marketing; * Diploma or Degree in Web Design; * IT Technicians; * Diploma in Graphic Design; and * B.Ed or Diploma in Higher Education. Contact details: Contact Person: Rebecca Molongoana; Call us: 011 856 4701 Fax Number: 011 622 5140/3727 Send CV to: h...@klmempowered.commailto:h...@klmempowered.com This email and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. This information is private and protected by law and, accordingly, if you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to delete this entire communication immediately and are notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of or taking any action based on this information is prohibited. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. The sender does not accept any liability or responsibility for any interception, corruption, destruction, loss, late arrival or incompleteness of or tampering or interference with any of the information contained in this email or for its incorrect delivery or non-delivery for whatsoever reason or for its effect on any electronic device of the recipient. Views and opinions expressed or implied in this email are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of Rand Water. If verification of this email or any attachment is required, please request a hard-copy version. Report illegal or suspicious activities! Use the Anti-Corruption Hotline - phone toll free 0800 212 364 -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] Fw: [TheBlackList] Bankie's email to a friend
- Forwarded Message - From: Abdurrahman Nelson unification_fr...@yahoo.com To: bankie bankie banki...@gmail.com; TheBlackList theblackl...@lists.riseup.net; The Black List theblackl...@earthlink.net; The Black List theblackl...@yahoogroups.com; theblacklist-requ...@lists.riseup.net theblacklist-requ...@lists.riseup.net; Kwasi theblacklist theblackl...@hotmail.com Cc: AAPRP Ohio mamakhandi...@aol.com; AAPRP Oregon forwarde...@bendbroadband.com; AAPRP DC aa...@msn.com; NAACP-DC washingtonbur...@naacpnet.org; AAPRP Sacramento watudes...@aol.com; U. Illinois- Urbana- Afro- American Studies aa...@illinois.edu; AAPRP Ohio mamakhandi...@aol.com; AAPRP r-c...@neiu.edu; AAPRP samiaya...@aol.com; AAPRP ad...@mobileemail.vodafone.net; AAPRP censa2...@gmail.com; AAPRP explo.nanik...@gmail.com; AAPRP fruitoflabor...@netscape.com; AAPRP gorkehnkru...@yahoo.com; AAPRP hdot...@embargmail.com; AAPRP hwes...@bellsouth.net; AAPRP i...@belovedcommunitycenter.org; AAPRP kong...@yahoo.com; AAPRP mama...@aol.com; AAPRP nelsonjohn...@belovedcommunity.org; AAPRP newafrika...@mxgm.org; AAPRP newafrika...@mxgm.org; AAPRP nke...@yahoo.co.uk; AAPRP oneusafr...@gmail.com; AAPRP pastor...@aol.com; AAPRP shinners.m...@yahoo.com; AAPRP tkare...@csulb.edu; AAPRP unia...@hotmail.com; CHINWEIZU CHINWEIZU sundoor...@gmail.com; CPPUK cp...@hotmail.com; CPPUSA cppcoalition...@hotmail.com; CPP-Sec-General Greenstreet ad...@tribute3ml.com; CPP - Youth cppyo...@gmail.com; CPP Forum cppglobalfo...@googlegroups.com; Friends of the Congo frie...@friendsofthecongo.org; CPP armahk...@yahoo.com; coliaclark coliacl...@aol.com; canadianmooncivilizat...@shaw.ca canadianmooncivilizat...@shaw.ca; Lumumba Campaign electlumu...@gmail.com; Alimamy sankoh bsan...@gmail.com; Alimamy SANKOH shufa2...@yahoo.com; Alimamy Bakarr Sankoh salpe...@gmail.com; Ali Mazrui amaz...@binghamton.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [TheBlackList] Bankie's email to a friend No enemy of Nkrmahism is a friend of mine. Take your Strategy and tactics and shove them. You will not trick me with non-sense. We are Pan-Africanists and do not compromise on it. And Nkrumahism is the highest form of Pan-Africanism. We have no apologies to offer. Abd From: bankie bankie banki...@gmail.com To: theblacklist theblackl...@lists.riseup.net Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [TheBlackList] Bankie's email to a friend Windhoek, Namibia Dear Friend The images from Black Star Square were beamed around the world. Good fortune to Ghanaians, but the current relations they have with Khartoum are unsustainable. I was last in Accra, as you might remember, in 2009, for the funeral of my Brother. I recall leaving the funeral reception to attend an FM Radio interview on Sudan on the Ring Road – I think it was Radio Vibe. It went badly and I was almost thrown out of the studios due to my critique of Bashir. I left Ghana with strong impressions on Ghana/Sudan relations. My understanding of Ghana/Sudan relations is that these are based on ‘mutual interests’. Ghana is/was importing oil from Sudan, whilst it’s own oil extraction capacities are being developed. Ghana imports this oil at concessionary prices and will continue to do so until such time as it is able to feed it’s internal oil needs from internal sources. For these arrangements Ghana defends in public forae the Bashir Government ( or is not critical of it). The Late Mills claimed to be following the footsteps of Nkrumah. This explains the alignment of the Ghanaian Nkrumahists with the defence of the Khartoum Government and their hostility ( witness Nelson ) to Juba. Conveniently the Nkrumahists in Ghana are able to defend Continentalism, as Nkrumah created the OAU as a continental body. Thus they are able to defend Khartoum, oppose the self government of the South and oppose the concept of the African Nation, which excludes north Africa. The unwillingness of the Ghanaian Nkumahists to shift their position away from Continentalism was explained to me whilst in Accra in 2009. I spent time explaining to my interlocutor Arab inequities in Sudan, but it was clear that Mills and co had decided, whatever the consequences, to stand by Bashir. The fact that the Ghanaian Foreign Minister happens to be a Muslim and the new President likewise, would indicated that the Nelsons, Nubours, Pratts etc, will defend continentalism till the end. BUT in my view the continentalist view is unsustainable. It will not sell to the Ghanaian public, especially as Ghana’s oil exports grow and events continue to unfold in the Sahel. I’m sure you are following the inability of Mali to defend it’s territorial sovereignty, despite all the noise coming from the different segments of it’s society and despite its defence arrangements with France, which led to it’s being
[PAYCO] FW: Internet Email Interception
From: SA Labour Guide [mailto:n...@labourguide.co.za] Sent: 27 July 2012 04:31 AM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com Subject: Internet Email Interception Having trouble reading this email? http://www.touchstream.co.za/display.php?M=10730525C=e86f88530f5eced21642f986427e7bd3S=12442L=1991N=6687 View it in your browser. SA Labour Guide Your guide to labour law in South Africa 27 July 2012 http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=12442L=1853F=H www.labourguide.co.za Summary of the BCEA in terms of Section 30: Available in all 11 official languages http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=12442L=4702F=H Follow this link to download the summary in your preferred language Internet Email Interception Internet Email Interception Jan du Toit A recent study at company employing 600 employees found that employees spend almost 79% of their working time on gaming and Internet sites such as Facebook. In another study it was found that almost 80% of the e-mail sent and received by employees during working hours were of a private nature. One can only imagine what the productivity levels are in those companies. The interception of communication is currently regulated by the Regulation of Interception of Communications and Provision of Communication Related Information act 70 of 2002. The interception of communication in prohibited in terms of section 2 in that, subject to this Act, no person may intentionally intercept or attempt to intercept, or authorise or procure any other person to intercept or attempt to intercept, at any place in the Republic, any communication in the course of its occurrence or transmission. In terms of section 4, any person, other than a law enforcement officer, may intercept any communication if he or she is a party to the communication, unless such communication is intercepted by such person for purposes of committing an offence. Furthermore, any person, other than a law enforcement officer, may intercept any communication if one of the parties to the communication has given prior consent in writing to such interception, unless such communication is intercepted for purposes of committing an offence. Any person who intentionally intercepts or attempts to do so, or authorises or procures any other person to intercept, is guilty of an offence. The question therefore is whether an employer has the right of access to or to confiscate the employee’s computer and to intercept and read employees' e-mail? In this regard, both the interests of the employer and the employee should be considered. Firstly, one should consider the fact that the computer and network access is usually provided by the employer as a business tool, and that, as a rule, it remains the property of the employer. Secondly, there is the constitutional right to privacy of the employee. The Constitution provides that everyone has the right to privacy, which includes the right not to have the privacy of their communications infringed. This should be balanced against the very real business and operational concern - that employees may be using the employer's computer and network access to, either waste time and network resources, or to download pornography or other offensive material from the internet and forward it to others, exposing the employer to viruses that can cripple its network. There are also very real confidentiality issues such as disclosure of confidential information belonging to the employer, on email. From the language of section 2 mentioned above it appears that the section is wide enough to include e-mail within the scope of the prohibition. An employer is prohibited from intercepting e-mail or other electronic messages at any stage during the existence or the transfer of that message, from one point to another. This also gives effect to the Constitution as an employer must respect the privacy of the employee and his communications via email or telephone. It should however be noted that the Act does not absolutely prohibits interception. An interception direction can be obtained to authorise the interception of communications, or the employee can consent to interception. Consent should be given freely, without duress and within the framework of fairness. Employers can employ various means to regulate email and internet use, or then abuse. Firstly, employers can electronically regulate what the employee can use and access. This can mean, for example, that an employee may send and receive e-mail only within the organisation, and that no external e-mail is allowed. This would probably be an unrealistic approach. Another solution is regulating the attachments employees can receive in emails. Secondly, employers must draft and implement email and internet policies, regulating the use of internet and email more comprehensively and specifically regulating what the consequences of
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national...
joni i received that sms last night. --- On Mon, 7/2/12, tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com wrote: From: tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 2, 2012, 9:08 AM Son of the Soil I would be saying you are joking if I did not know the extent to which we are in trouble. My honest view is that this is a clear reflection that we are not yet serious about the PAC AND THE AZANIAN PEOPLE. I hope this does not succeed but if it does we will just go along just like we seem to be doing with Letlapa. Comrade Sbu must still develop within the leadership of the PAC not as s president, GS, Organiser or so if we are serious. Tembelani Xundu - Original Message - From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... -- SMS -- From: +278200701103488 Received: Jul 1, 2012 21:49 Subject: Are you a delegate in national... Are you a delegate in national congress in Butterworth? My branch vote 4 Sbusiso Xaba to be PAC President. We request support your branch. More info 0825164664. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national...
PAC people can be shallow sometimes. This sms is out of order. We reject the July so called congress and shall reject all of its outcomes including the leadership to arise from it Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Motlatsi Mogoiwa mtmogo...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 01:22:02 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... joni i received that sms last night. --- On Mon, 7/2/12, tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com wrote: From: tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 2, 2012, 9:08 AM Son of the Soil I would be saying you are joking if I did not know the extent to which we are in trouble. My honest view is that this is a clear reflection that we are not yet serious about the PAC AND THE AZANIAN PEOPLE. I hope this does not succeed but if it does we will just go along just like we seem to be doing with Letlapa. Comrade Sbu must still develop within the leadership of the PAC not as s president, GS, Organiser or so if we are serious. Tembelani Xundu - Original Message - From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... -- SMS -- From: +278200701103488 Received: Jul 1, 2012 21:49 Subject: Are you a delegate in national... Are you a delegate in national congress in Butterworth? My branch vote 4 Sbusiso Xaba to be PAC President. We request support your branch. More info 0825164664. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national...
Yes sometimes mediocrity gets so repetitively loud that it blurs reality. For many reasons this is a village joke par excellence devoid of any thought. And of course some of us know there is no politics behind this, it is mushrooms who are beginning to believe they are trees. The reality is that we don't even need to put energy to demonstrate that it is a mushroom becuase it will self decay and then blown off by the wind. PAC cannot be entrusted to untested and even so by Blade personalities. Some IFP linked fella (Blade) who went thru the cracks. Its a real sham of a group with no understanding of the theory and practice of the PAC, the international parlance of organisation and character and the holiness of the principle of program of action. Of course as we know these are political infants who have no record. Social ambitions must be fulfilled in the social sphere and not on our political space. The revolution which is upon us shall be led by revolutionaries and not by personalities who dream administration when they have administered zero in and outside politics. It is an atmospheric idea. In social parlance we would have said: come on chaps!! The other thing is that these are not even PAC ideas, but are as weak as the absolute lack of confidence by the peddlers. In politics record and where you come from matters the world over. And these ones come from no where. I am quite sure these ideas emerged out of boredom and some social gig. I am an African of the PAC brand, words and deeds!! Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 08:49:44 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... PAC people can be shallow sometimes. This sms is out of order. We reject the July so called congress and shall reject all of its outcomes including the leadership to arise from it Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Motlatsi Mogoiwa mtmogo...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 01:22:02 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... joni i received that sms last night. --- On Mon, 7/2/12, tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com wrote: From: tembelani xundu ttxu...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 2, 2012, 9:08 AM Son of the Soil I would be saying you are joking if I did not know the extent to which we are in trouble. My honest view is that this is a clear reflection that we are not yet serious about the PAC AND THE AZANIAN PEOPLE. I hope this does not succeed but if it does we will just go along just like we seem to be doing with Letlapa. Comrade Sbu must still develop within the leadership of the PAC not as s president, GS, Organiser or so if we are serious. Tembelani Xundu - Original Message - From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: Are you a delegate in national... -- SMS -- From: +278200701103488 Received: Jul 1, 2012 21:49 Subject: Are you a delegate in national... Are you a delegate in national congress in Butterworth? My branch vote 4 Sbusiso Xaba to be PAC President. We request support your branch. More info 0825164664. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: Hospitality Sector: Minimum Wages – 01 July 2012 until 30 June 2013
From: SA Labour Guide [mailto:n...@labourguide.co.za] Sent: 25 June 2012 03:50 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com Subject: Hospitality Sector: Minimum Wages – 01 July 2012 until 30 June 2013 Having trouble reading this email? http://www.touchstream.co.za/display.php?M=10730525C=e86f88530f5eced21642f986427e7bd3S=11854L=1991N=6457 View it in your browser. SA Labour Guide Your guide to labour law in South Africa 25 June 2012 www.labourguide.co.za http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=1853F=H Upcoming Workshops/ Courses Follow this link for upcoming courses/ workshops http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=3315F=H Labour Guide is a Services Seta Accredited Training Provider http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=3315F=H Wage Increases: Hospitality Sector: 01 July 2012 until 30 June 2013 Hospitality Sector: Minimum Wages – 01 July 2012 until 30 June 2013 http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=2407F=H Follow this link to download the new minimum wages for the Hospitality Sector for the Period 1 July 2012 until 30 June 2012 http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=2407F=H Download the full 32 page guide on everything you need to know about Domestic Workers including: Download the 24 Page Booklet – What Hospitality Workers and their Employers should know about minimum wages and basic conditions of employment: The guide include the following valuable information * Minimum Wages (The calculation of wages) * Information about Wages (Payslip, deductions that are allowed to be made) * Conditions of Employment (Hours of work, overtime, public holidays, leave, termination of service) * Contract of Employment * Job description * Attendance Register * Certificate of Service * Guidelines (Notice period, procedure for termination of employment, wages, transport allowances and bonuses, meal intervals, Sunday work, Public holidays, annual leave, sick leave, maternity leave, family responsibility leave etc.) Follow this link to download the complete document (32 Pages) http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=2407F=H What Hospitality Workers and their Employers should know about minimum wages and basic conditions of employment (24 Page Booklet) This message was intended for 'nrkgag...@gmail.com' You have received this message because you are subscribed to 'SA Labour News' http://www.touchstream.co.za/unsubscribe.php?M=10730525C=e86f88530f5eced21642f986427e7bd3L=1991N=11854 Unsubscribe | To contact us please email yourem...@emailaddress.com SA Labour Guide (012) 661 3208 (012) 666 8284 (Health and Safety) www.labourguide.co.za http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=1853F=H http://www.touchstream.co.za/link.php?M=10730525N=11854L=1F=H Poweredby Interspire http://www.touchstream.co.za/open.php?M=10730525L=1991N=11854F=Himage=.jpg -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: PAC Dispute
--- On Wed, 30/5/12, Thomas Ntando tnta...@wrhi.ac.za wrote: From: Thomas Ntando tnta...@wrhi.ac.za Subject: FW: PAC Dispute To: tommykanta...@yahoo.co.uk tommykanta...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Wednesday, 30 May, 2012, 8:33 From: Bantu Nduna [mailto:ba...@telkomsa.net] Sent: 29 May 2012 05:17 PM To: ottilia.nk...@telkomsa.net; pakgos...@lantic.net; simonbranderapla...@gmail.com; samuelmar...@gmail.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; thlo...@mweb.co.za; Thomas Ntando; aplamv...@gmail.com; aplamval...@gmail.com; aplamv...@gmail.com; bennynto...@telkomsa.net; billiard.s...@gmail.com Subject: FW: PAC Dispute From: Bantu Nduna [mailto:ba...@telkomsa.net] Sent: 29 May 2012 05:10 PM To: miyanjab...@durban.gov.za; manelisi.mamp...@gmail.com; madhlam...@webmail.co.za; mmbar...@hotmail.com; 'mr.fi...@webmail.co.za'; 'm...@bianca.telkomsa.net'; mohato...@gmail.com; mhayiselad...@gmail.com; mmaf...@gmail.com Subject: RE: PAC Dispute Comrades The Urgent Application has been filed at the High Court, Cape Town today. The Respondents are required to notify our Attorneys of their intention to oppose by 16H00 on 7 June 2012. If they are opposing, they must file their Affidavit by 16H00 on 11 June 2012. If they are not opposing the application will be heard on 12 June 2012. Can you please Africans make a contribution towards the cost of our Attorneys and Advocate? The bank account number is FNB 620 623 652 52. On the reference section please write PAC plus your name. Izwe Lethu!!! Bantu Nduna P/S For those that this email is not intended, please ignore it. __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com __ -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: [socialistworld.net] South Africa: Workers take over factory
Comrades Check this site for your interest :http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/4740 You will find there the complete article: South Africa: Workers take over factory author: Reporters about MEWUSA from DSM (CWI South Africa) On Wednesday 20 October, the workers of the Mine Line/TAP Engineering factory in Krugersdorp, just outside Soweto, started an occupation of their workplace to stop the former owner from stripping the factory of machinery and other assets and to fight to save their jobs. Regards Nkrumah -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] Fw: HCI-FPFS Congratulates President-elect of France
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[PAYCO] FW: DA Townlands 05-2012.docx
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Stores Asst
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[PAYCO] FW: NPA Needs 23 Data Capturers
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Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE
izwe lethu ma afrika can anyone who have the 2000 constitution please post it in the groups its urgent. gerald lerobane On 2/16/12, Mthembu Ngciki mthembu.si...@yahoo.com wrote: Cde Mmbara, This person, the former President really is a lunatic, who is obsessed with power. He is only trying to protect his Parliamentary seat and those of his lackeys that he appointed as Councillors to represent the PAC in Municipal Councils. This invoking of section 14b is nothing just another dirty and subversive tactic to legitimise their faction and mislead those who are blindly following him. He wants to repeat what he did before, appointing his braskap to build another sand empire. Ma-Afrika the integrity of our Party is at stake, why do we allow this situation to go unchallenged? We have seen long ago that these so called PAC leaders have no interest of the Party at heart but that of their personal and selfless ambitions. This verdict is a victory for all PAC loving Africanists and now is the time to deliberate on the way forward, the National Task Team must lead us, distribute Membership forms, Provincial Coordinators to be visible and embark on a radical, credible and sustainable regionally based campaigns to provide information to PAC Members on the status of our Party and assist in interpreting this verdict as to what it means on the PAC and its former leadership. we can't let those who are defeated and bitter to interpret our victory. Critical to the above is the establishment of branches and talking to those africanists who were harassed and purged into leaving the Party. Time is against us as other parties are already preparing for the 2014 National and Provincial Elections, this decree thing is also to be used to delay us in working towards 2014 because the Field Masharll wants to return to parliament. Africanists out there are ready to tirelessly work with a revolutionary and visionary leadership to rebuild the PAC and put it to the centre stage of this country's politics. what ever we do let's think about our fallen heroes, they have answered our prayers by this victory so we can't let them down, as cadres let's fearlessly defend our Party and protect its legacy and reclaim it from the maffia gang. The sand empire has fallen. Where is the former Secretary General, the architect of their misplaced and destructive strategy in these trying times? THE DECKS ARE CLEARED THE BATTLE MUST BE JOINED Izwe Lethu Mthembu T Ngciki Provincial Organiser APLAMVA Eastern Cape From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP payco@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:29 AM Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:07:27 To: sero...@hotmail.com; mmbar...@hotmail.com Subject: DECREE comrades, please find the attached document: DECREE It is good that he decided to write it down, then we can identify loopholes. The resumtion of decree is a loophole already bcs in his mind the decree he did before Fort Hare is continuing. that is out of order . . . unprocedural bcs the Fort Hare Congress sitting has not been nullified by the court only two resolutions i) Pheko's expulsion; 2) Constitutional ammendment. Constitutional ammendment being nullified automatically invalidated the elected NEC because it was elected based on that ammended Constitution. That means in my view they previous NEC is suppose to be in place. We are having a Press Conference on Friday morning in Cape Town. Izwe Lethu -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE
Cde Mmbara, This person, the former President really is a lunatic, who is obsessed with power. He is only trying to protect his Parliamentary seat and those of his lackeys that he appointed as Councillors to represent the PAC in Municipal Councils. This invoking of section 14b is nothing just another dirty and subversive tactic to legitimise their faction and mislead those who are blindly following him. He wants to repeat what he did before, appointing his braskap to build another sand empire. Ma-Afrika the integrity of our Party is at stake, why do we allow this situation to go unchallenged? We have seen long ago that these so called PAC leaders have no interest of the Party at heart but that of their personal and selfless ambitions. This verdict is a victory for all PAC loving Africanists and now is the time to deliberate on the way forward, the National Task Team must lead us, distribute Membership forms, Provincial Coordinators to be visible and embark on a radical, credible and sustainable regionally based campaigns to provide information to PAC Members on the status of our Party and assist in interpreting this verdict as to what it means on the PAC and its former leadership. we can't let those who are defeated and bitter to interpret our victory. Critical to the above is the establishment of branches and talking to those africanists who were harassed and purged into leaving the Party. Time is against us as other parties are already preparing for the 2014 National and Provincial Elections, this decree thing is also to be used to delay us in working towards 2014 because the Field Masharll wants to return to parliament. Africanists out there are ready to tirelessly work with a revolutionary and visionary leadership to rebuild the PAC and put it to the centre stage of this country's politics. what ever we do let's think about our fallen heroes, they have answered our prayers by this victory so we can't let them down, as cadres let's fearlessly defend our Party and protect its legacy and reclaim it from the maffia gang. The sand empire has fallen. Where is the former Secretary General, the architect of their misplaced and destructive strategy in these trying times? THE DECKS ARE CLEARED THE BATTLE MUST BE JOINED Izwe Lethu Mthembu T Ngciki Provincial Organiser APLAMVA Eastern Cape From: Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP payco@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:29 AM Subject: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:07:27 To: sero...@hotmail.com; mmbar...@hotmail.com Subject: DECREE comrades, please find the attached document: DECREE It is good that he decided to write it down, then we can identify loopholes. The resumtion of decree is a loophole already bcs in his mind the decree he did before Fort Hare is continuing. that is out of order . . . unprocedural bcs the Fort Hare Congress sitting has not been nullified by the court only two resolutions i) Pheko's expulsion; 2) Constitutional ammendment. Constitutional ammendment being nullified automatically invalidated the elected NEC because it was elected based on that ammended Constitution. That means in my view they previous NEC is suppose to be in place. We are having a Press Conference on Friday morning in Cape Town. Izwe Lethu -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Fitter
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Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE
At times naivety can project itself to the outer world as arrogance. Some persons within this category also prefer the arrogance label as it gets them feeling a sense of false control. A closer interrogation of whether Mr Phahlele is arrogant or naïve needs to be drawn more from the facts, and less from his talk most of which I respectfully submit is more adolescent and somewhat thoughtless. The answer lies in the meticulous interrogation of: naivety vs arrogance. And I want to submit that for what is worth, Mr Mphahlele is and has been for a long time naïve, whose only arrogance is failure to transcend his naivety. I personally have little sympathy for Him save in so far as the party fed his naivety in exile and in the early 1990s. These are the origins of his naivety. Let's us engage on a few indicators. When we approached Letlapa in person and to a very large extent introduced his Presidential campain pre-Qwaqwa we agreed with him on a mandate. At that point we made it clear that once elected it was up to him to lead as he deems fit except that we agreed that a few areas are non negotiable, namely that we back him for so long as he will set the Country ablaze through campaigns and mass mobilisation work, and adherence to party ideology and discipline. As we now know he has just like many of our past Presidents been a no factor to the ruling regime and when he camouflages he engages in very harmless rhetoric. No mass actions have taken place nor are there any on the cards. Similarly he has operated outside the prescripts of our constitution, itself a manifest of naivety and general leadership incapacity. And these manifestations were early to show and ingratiate themselves. I think it was courage, not too common, of us to be the first ones when we were convinced that the man is naïve, poised to inflict untold damage to the party, to swiftly advise him to step down, and shared with all party structures the urgent need to have him step aside, despite the fact that we had backed him initially. Since then he has presided on an ill fated program to break the party into small pieces right through the young and old cadres of our movement, including those with whom he served outside the Country. Take the following instances: when he campaigned for President he stated he will serve one year and fix the party, he stated he will not go to Parliament, etc. All of these we advised were pipe dreams of a naïve virgin type personality with no grasp of any leadership principles. When he passed a decree he had no clue what the implications were except to fulfill an outburst, very ill advised. The current decree will not stand any objective scrutiny of any kind either. His leadership of OUR millitary forces is also awash with these spontaneity and naivety. Some of these looked like heroism but they were in fact naïve outside party line behaviours. In the process the party was hugely harmed. I am of the strong mind we are dealing here with a naïve character who is so insecure that he creates a smokescreen of arrogance which in fact is naivety. What is important though is: - to voice our objections and take action as we are doing against this naivety, - to plan and prepare for a mass rolling program and entrust this to people that are truly ready and able to serve - not to repeat the mistakes of the past in correcting the current situation, and to use all our lessons fully. Afrika is Our Land !! Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:11 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE Greetings comrades, The absurdity of this Decree is that it is invoked outside the parameters and limitations of the constitution. There is no crisis in the party except Mphahlele and co. The source of crisis cannot simultaneously be the source of stability and solution. The critical point is that Letlapa is no longer PAC President therefore has no legal right as per 2000 constitution to lead PAC or declare a decree. His term of office expired in September 2009. The measures taken towards the seating of the June Congress are factionalist, divisive and absurd to say the least. The appointment of the very individuals who failed to get the administrative and organizational systems to work properly is nothing but rewarding incompetence and pushing a divisive factional agenda. The very comrades appointed failed to convened an inclusive PAC congress hence the three judgements. Letlapa, Mudihni and co are hopeless cases and cannot work for unity, they thrive on anarchy and divisions. We need an inclusive Congress Organizing body that shall be tasked with issuing of membership cards, launching branches, verification of branches and issuing of delegate and observer status and other congress logistics
Re: [PAYCO] FW: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012
On 2/13/12, Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za wrote: From: Phathiwe Keti Sent: 13 February 2012 01:33 To: *Johannesburg Branch Mail List Subject: FW: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012 From: Mdluli, Rosemary (SCAW SA) [mailto:rosemary.mdl...@scaw.co.za] Sent: 13 February 2012 01:27 PM To: Tsoku, Landslord Khotlhelo; Isaac Roets; Mthembu, Gladstone (SCAW SA); Ratone, Joseph; lillian; Thandi Binda; Snowy Mosia; Cynthia Mosito; Vincent Mwelase; MATTHEWS, CHARLOTTE (GDARD); Amon Nkone; Ntsangani, Samuel (SCAW SA); Shelembe, Patrick (SCAW SA); Mahlangu, Nosipho (SCAW SA); Phathiwe Keti; Olga Gcobo; Mabuza, Fikile; Masinga, Lindiwe L Subject: FW: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012 From: Fokazi, Vuyani Sent: 13 February 2012 01:03 PM To: Madlingozi, Azola (SCAW SA); Khitsane, Gloria; Dudu Motsei; Nomazizi Mavuso; Nkele Chadibe (SCAW SA); Ndlovu, Samu Patience (SCAW SA); Bukelwa Siralile; babalwa.sipa...@actom.co.za; Baloi, Tululu (SCAW SA); Rakgolela, Lucas (SCAW SA); Rikabe, Francis (SCAW SA); Mdluli, Rosemary (SCAW SA); Ndaba, Cyril (SCAW SA); Shabangu, Dumisani (SCAW SA); Thandiwe Ntaka; theodo...@primeserv.co.za Subject: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012 Vuyani Fokazi | Training [cid:image001.jpg@01CCEA4F.C12BC950][cid:image002.jpg@01CCEA4F.C12BC950] incompetence is expensive Puff and pass -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: TMO
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Operationtions Training Officer
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: DA Benoni 01-2012.docx
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Fitter
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[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: Artisan Assistant Motor Mechanic
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[PAYCO] Fw: Algerian and Tunisian football fans honour Muammar Qaddafi
--Original Message-- From: jmapla...@gmail.com To: Xola Tyamzashe ReplyTo: jmapla...@gmail.com Subject: Algerian and Tunisian football fans honour Muammar Qaddafi Sent: Nov 23, 2011 11:21 An interesting article from Mathaba: Algerian and Tunisian football fans honour Muammar Qaddafi Read it at: http://www.mathaba.net/0_mail.shtml?x=629432 From Mathaba News Network: http://www.mathaba.net Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] Fw: Dr.
-- SMS -- From: +27848819327 Received: Oct 12, 2011 23:41 Subject: Dr. Dr. Pheko will be speaking on his knowledge-revealing books at African Literature Bookshop 191 Louis Botha Avenue, Cnr 8th St and Orange Groove Jbg. WRITE Associates are sponsors. Time: 14.OO to 16.3O .26 November 2O11 Everybody participates after the speaker. 12 titles will be available for purchase. Thanks. Liepollo Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] FW: Vacancy: PSO
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[PAYCO] FW: FW: Interesting story from City Press
White first. African secondhttp://www.citypress.co.za/Columnists/White-first-African-second-20110924 9/25/2011 10:00:00 AM Open letter to AfriForum CEO Kallie Kriel If one will always have to feel white first, and African second, it would be better not to stay on in Africa. It would not be worth it for this. - Nadine Gordimer Dear Kallie, Like you, I am a white Afrikaner who lives in Africa. I was glad to read in last week's City Press that you identify yourself as an African with a light complexion. I do too. I suspect, however, that we have vastly different interpretations of what it means to be an African Afrikaner in South Africa and on the position of Afrikaners in 2011. You see yourself firstly as part of a minority group whose constitutional and human rights are being disregarded by the ANC. The premise of AfriForum's campaigns is one of victimhood. You regard the Afrikaners as a group under threat, a people whose basic rights to expression, association and movement are constantly being undermined by the black majority. You want to struggle - in the courts, on the streets and in the legislature.This is a dangerous game, Kallie. You are not stupid, I know that. So why are you refusing to present to your supporters a fairer, more balanced picture of your people's position in South Africa today? Is something more sinister at play? Is scaring people a more profitable tactic for AfriForum? You know as well as I do that the Afrikaner's cultural, religious and linguistic identity is not under threat. When I visit the Potchefstroom or Oudtshoorn arts festivals, I don't see people who are suppressed. In fact, they look happier to me than they were in 1994. Have you heard of Afrikaner author Deon Meyer's phenomenal success? We write what we like, Kallie. You referred to the right-wing publication Die Afrikaner in your interview with us. Would an oppressive regime, hellbent on suppressing its minorities, allow such a publication to appear? I think not. You (and Judge Colin Lamont) use the very narrow definition of numeracy to define minorities. Yes, numberwise the Afrikaner is a minority group. But even the United Nations, whose Minorities Declaration of 1992 is repeated almost verbatim on AfriForum's website, recognises numbers can never be the only determining factor when defining minorities. The UN published a report titled Minorities under international law in which it specifically (and ironically) quoted the South African example: In most instances, a minority group will be a numerical minority, but in others, a numerical majority may also find itself in a minority-like or non-dominant position, such as blacks under the apartheid regime in South Africa. Who knows why the ANC's legal team didn't make this point in the case you brought against them. I'm sure AfriForum would agree that poor black South Africans are in an even less dominant position than middle-class Afrikaners from Pretoria.Which brings me to crime. Why does AfriForum focus largely on crime against whites when you know black, poor people are by far the most vulnerable members of society when it comes to violent crime? I see your old foe, the Transvaal Agricultural Union, admitted last week that farm murders were down by almost 50% in the last financial year. I didn't see a press statement from them or AfriForum on this.Isn't there also a responsibility on a civil rights group to inform its members when things improve? Isn't there a risk we'll have more Johan Nels - the young killer from Swartruggens who believed blacks were actively targeting whites in some form of genocide, and murdered four black people out of blind rage - if organisations like yours don't inform and educate your supporters about what's really going on? Or is there some reason you don't? If they are a minority, then Afrikaners must be one of the most powerful, wealthy and diverse minorities on the planet. Remember apartheid? The system that benefited your and my forbears to such an extent that we are still better off today than our black peers? Have you had a look at the Sunday Times' most recent Rich List published two weeks ago? If you did, you would have seen that four Afrikaners - Christo Wiese (Shoprite), Laurie Dippenaar (FirstRand), Johann Rupert (Rembrandt) and GT Ferreira (RMB) - are included in the country's top 10 richest people.And did you see who the top two earners were for 2010? Shoprite CEO Whitey Basson (who earned R627 million) and BHP Billiton boss Marius Kloppers (R77 million) - two Afrikaners. Did you discuss this with the members of AfriForum? Surely it is not possible for people from a minority group who are suppressed to do business in their country of birth? And have you asked Wiese, Dippenaar, Rupert and Ferreira whether they regard themselves as minorities? Have they addressed AfriForum's membership on becoming a
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