Re: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-29 Thread Jon Hope

At 10:33 29/04/01, Dan wrote:
 I've heard that as honey is to bees, so is Vega/Marmite to the naked
mole rat. Curious what some people will eat.

I think the best description for vegemite I've seen is looks like axle 
grease, smells like axle grease, feels like axle grease, and tastes like 
heaven.

It is curious to what some people will eat. It seems to me that some people 
think that if you can keep it down for longer than 2 seconds, and it 
doesn't kill you, it is edible. Furthermore, some culture, somewhere, will 
have it as a delicacy.

Cheers

Jon

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Re: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-29 Thread tom

Jon Hope wrote:
 
 It is curious to what some people will eat. It seems to me that some people
 think that if you can keep it down for longer than 2 seconds, and it
 doesn't kill you, it is edible. Furthermore, some culture, somewhere, will
 have it as a delicacy.

This is true. I like scrapple.

tv
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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread Gary J Sibio

At 01:49 PM 4/28/01 -0700, you wrote:
In regard of the demise of slow films you wrote;

Nothing wrong with a good quality ND filter.

except for viewing, focusing, and composing, of
course.


If that's a problem, attach the filter after you've done all of the above.


Pax et bonum,
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Re[2]: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-29 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 It is curious to what some people will eat. It seems to me that some people
 think that if you can keep it down for longer than 2 seconds, and it 
 doesn't kill you, it is edible. Furthermore, some culture, somewhere, will 
 have it as a delicacy.

Ronald McDonald springs to mind.

---

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RE: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread David A. Mann

Todd Stanley writes:

 I read that as it's OK to use a non-Pentax body as long as you are using a
 Pentax lens.  In the open months anything goes.  It's kind of annoying
 though, when I have the perfect picture to submit then suddenly realize it
 was taken with my Ricoh body and a 3rd party lens.  Doh!

 I'm still lusting after a Pentax 67II to replace my RB67.  I love the old RB but 
that beautiful SMC Pentax glass won't fit on it...

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: abreviations used on this list

2001-04-29 Thread David A. Mann

Frank Theriault writes:

 The first one may only be used by Canadians! :-)
[snip]
  Eh?   (A)

 It's used down here, too.. and in Australia.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-29 Thread David A. Mann

Jeff Tokayer writes:

 That sounds quite conservative.
 Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up.

 Yes, I'd consider 40 volts to be pretty safe provided its dry :)

 I've had a few minor tingles off 50V DC with sweaty hands but I don't think 
I've ever felt 40V.  I keep the hell clear of the 420V DC in the gear we make 
at work :)

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Lenses 28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes)

2001-04-29 Thread David A. Mann

Dave Maki writes:

 Thanks, Kevin.  That is what I was looking for.  The Sigma 14mm actually
 gave some really nice effects.  The only picture that felt uncomfortably
 distorted was the Forest Runner.  I will start paying attention to the
 short lens.

 Keep in mind that once you find a Pentax 15mm f/3.5 you will want it, 
regardless of what it costs or how much you'll use it!

 I have some pictures taken with it that I might be able to put on my website 
somewhere if you think you can resist the temptation :)

 Cheers,


- Dave

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Table of Contents?

2001-04-29 Thread MacBurt

Is it possible to create a table of contents at the beginning of each volume? 
It sure beats having to go thru each entry.
Thank you.
Burt
NYC
USA

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Re: found my camera

2001-04-29 Thread Donald Ross



It's not too bad Cory. You're suffering from 
an incurable condition my wife fondly calls;"male blindness". You know: 
'honey, have you seen my shirt?' 'It's right there in the closet'. 
'I don't see it' you reply', and she promptly marches in and pulls it from the 
hangar and hands itto you with a smile on her face. It appears most 
men have this affliction. There is no known cure, but I'm I'm thinking of 
starting a support groupg

Don

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  CW 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:18 
  PM
  Subject: found my camera
  
  So my wife was going on vacation this weekend 
  and we couldn't find the point-n-shoot. Looked high and low for it to no 
  avail. She left for the airport with film in the bag but no 
  camera...
  I found the camera this afternoon in"MY" 
  camera bag... For some of you I'm sure that it's quite understandable to 
  loose an object so small in your vast camera gack. I won't tell you how 
  small my bag is but there's no excuse for missing this camera in that 
  bag.
  I'm considering getting rid of the thing so I 
  don't have to tell her I found it a placewhere Ilooked on Thursday 
  before sheleft. :)
  Oh well, I guess I'll have to take another one 
  for the team.
  
  Cory Waters
  Douglasville, 
GA


Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Donald Ross

Congrats Steve

I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented me from jumping 
in.  Let
us know how everything works out.

Don
- Original Message -
From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: I Won a Big one


 Hi,
  I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
 trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
 feedback, kind of scary.
  I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
 I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it (kidding).
 No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
  Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California

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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Paul Jones

whats the url for the auction? i'd just like to have a look at the lense.

Cya
- Original Message -
From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 Congrats Steve

 I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented me
from jumping in.  Let
 us know how everything works out.

 Don
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
 Subject: I Won a Big one


  Hi,
   I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
  trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
  feedback, kind of scary.
   I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
  I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
(kidding).
  No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
   Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
 
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Donald Ross

Cya

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231348532

It reaaly is a big one.

Don
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 whats the url for the auction? i'd just like to have a look at the lense.
 
 Cya
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
 Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
 
 
  Congrats Steve
 
  I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented me
 from jumping in.  Let
  us know how everything works out.
 
  Don
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
  Subject: I Won a Big one
 
 
   Hi,
I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
   trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
   feedback, kind of scary.
I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
   I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
 (kidding).
   No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
   Steve Larson
   Redondo Beach, California
  
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Buying an MX

2001-04-29 Thread Paul



I am thinking of buying an MX to complement my 
MZ-5n, have any of you guys any tips on what to look for with this particular 
model if buying second/third/forth hand?

Much appreciated 

Paul


Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Paul Jones



thanks,

It certainly is bid, its nice that it comes with a pentax tripod.

Cya
From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:19:44 -0400

Cya

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231348532

It reaaly is a big one.

Don
- Original Message -
From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


  whats the url for the auction? i'd just like to have a look at the 
lense.
 
  Cya
  - Original Message -
  From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
  Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
 
 
   Congrats Steve
  
   I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented 
me
  from jumping in.  Let
   us know how everything works out.
  
   Don
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
   Subject: I Won a Big one
  
  
Hi,
 I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
feedback, kind of scary.
 I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
  (kidding).
No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
 Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
   
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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-29 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

I got knocked on my butt when I touched the frayed power cord of my
Honeywell Strobonar 882 with wet hands. It uses that 500+ volt Eveready
497 battery, but I don't know what the trigger voltage is. I generally
use the old Honeywell potato masher only with my Mamiya C220 or as a
slave, but I've been wondering if it can be used with the LX.
Paul

David A. Mann wrote:
 
 Jeff Tokayer writes:
 
  That sounds quite conservative.
  Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up.
 
  Yes, I'd consider 40 volts to be pretty safe provided its dry :)
 
  I've had a few minor tingles off 50V DC with sweaty hands but I don't think
 I've ever felt 40V.  I keep the hell clear of the 420V DC in the gear we make
 at work :)
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Dave
 
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 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 
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Re: OT: autofocus motor

2001-04-29 Thread Rob Studdert

On 29 Apr 2001, at 0:38, Eduardo Carone Costa Júnior wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 
 At least we agree to disagree! No. That's not true... perhaps a slight
 misunderstanding.
 Of course a camera AF does not have a gear box, as a automobile does. But my
 analogy was more focused --- no pun intended --- on a car drive shaft.

I doubt that the bodies AF motor is direct drive, I assume that it is geared as 
the shaft rotation speed is quite slow (relative to the speed of even a high 
torque DC stepper motor). But in any case the AF shaft on the AF TC that I 
own spins quite freely and is extremely unlikely to introduce even the 
slightest extra load on the system. I would assume that if the TC was badly 
designed and the AF shafts did not couple correctly then maybe this would 
cause a slow-down of the AF speed otherwise I can't see how this might 
occur.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-29 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

tom wrote:
 
 This is true. I like scrapple.

Habbersetts, I presume?

m42 -( ex-EastCoaster )- Bill

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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Donald Ross

Hi Steve

You're lucky he replied to you.  I introduced the link for this lens to the list under 
the
'It's not fair' Subject line.  Someone wondered if this was a TAK or K mount so I 
decided to
ask the seller.  I received no reply to the question.  I'm really curious as to the 
tripod.
Let us know.

Don
- Original Message -
From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 Hi Don,
  The 0 feedback is scary, but he replied to all my emailed questions,
 so we`ll see.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
 Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


  Congrats Steve
 
  I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented me
 from jumping in.  Let
  us know how everything works out.
 
  Don
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
  Subject: I Won a Big one
 
 
   Hi,
I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
   trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
   feedback, kind of scary.
I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
   I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
 (kidding).
   No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
   Steve Larson
   Redondo Beach, California
  
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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

It can certainly be a problem at times, and to attach a filter after
preparing for the shot is the most ridiculous suggestion I've heard
in ages.  Perhaps that's acceptable if you're photographing an
object that's not going to move, or one that's in static light, but
for people and street shooting, and subjects that are moving, it'll
never work.  What do you photograph that allow you to do something
like this?

 In regard of the demise of slow films you wrote;
 
 Nothing wrong with a good quality ND filter.
 
 except for viewing, focusing, and composing, of
 course.
 
 If that's a problem, attach the filter after you've done all of the above.

-- 
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There are no rules for good photographs, 
there are only good photographs.
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

He didn't reply to mine and gave me some half-assed answers.  That's
one reason I didn't pursue it.  

Steve Larson wrote:

  The 0 feedback is scary, but he replied 
 to all my emailed questions, so we`ll see.

-- 
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Frank Theriault

Holy crap, Steve, that has to be the coolest lens I've ever seen!  Congrats.

Just looked it up in my faithful Asahi Pentax Guide, and it (the lens, not
the book) weighs in at around 16 1/2 pounds!  No wonder it comes with a
tripod.  Does the lens case have little wheels on it so you can drag it around
airports?

I also notice that it has manual aperture.

Anyway, have fun with it.  It won't be too useful for architecture (unless
you're standing five miles from the building), but for the July open gallery,
hopefully we'll see a shot from it on PUG.

regards,
frank

Steve Larson wrote:

 Hi,
  I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
 trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
 feedback, kind of scary.
  I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
 I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it (kidding).
 No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
  Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California

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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Steve Larson

Ya, I guess I was lucky that the seller responded to both my emails, and
also he responded within 20 minutes of when the auction ended. I`ll let you
know about the tripod, I`m curious too.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 Hi Steve

 You're lucky he replied to you.  I introduced the link for this lens to
the list under the
 'It's not fair' Subject line.  Someone wondered if this was a TAK or K
mount so I decided to
 ask the seller.  I received no reply to the question.  I'm really curious
as to the tripod.
 Let us know.

 Don
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


  Hi Don,
   The 0 feedback is scary, but he replied to all my emailed questions,
  so we`ll see.
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
  - Original Message -
  From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
  Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
 
 
   Congrats Steve
  
   I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented
me
  from jumping in.  Let
   us know how everything works out.
  
   Don
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
   Subject: I Won a Big one
  
  
Hi,
 I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
feedback, kind of scary.
 I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
  (kidding).
No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
 Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
   
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Rfsindg

Steve,

Congratulations, I saw you won it this AM.  Now we expect to see some 
sailboat and surfer dude shots with that cannon for the PUG.
1000mm?!!, you can probably point it over towards Illinois and count how many 
fingers I am holding up. g

Regards,  Bob S.
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Konica Monochrome

2001-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I've just heard about this film.  It's a chromogenic BW, like
Ilford XP2, Kodak T400CN, and the like.  Has anyone had any
experience with this emulsion?  Comments?
-- 
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Steve Larson

Thanks Bob, there will definitely be some PUG entries with it. LOL about the
fingers you`re holding up! 4, right?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 Steve,

 Congratulations, I saw you won it this AM.  Now we expect to see some
 sailboat and surfer dude shots with that cannon for the PUG.
 1000mm?!!, you can probably point it over towards Illinois and count how
many
 fingers I am holding up. g

 Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Buying an MX

2001-04-29 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

there are 2 problems which seem quite common with MXs:

1) the frame counter stops working. I've had this happen on 2 of mine.
It's fairly cheap to have it repaired, provided the repairer can get
the parts.

2) the shutter release lock sometimes doesn't do the job 100%, so that
there is still some play in the shutter release. This can switch on
the metering circuit. So if you store an MX which has this problem
with some pressure on the release - eg the top of your bag or case -
it will drain the batteries.

Over the years I think I've owned 4 MXs, and I still have the first I
ever bought, from 1979/80. Other than the problems described above
they've been very reliable. The only other problem was one whose film
advance would intermittently jam. I didn't try to repair it, but
traded it in against an LX.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sunday, April 29, 2001, 12:28:05 PM, you wrote:

 I am thinking of buying an MX to complement my MZ-5n, have any of you guys any tips 
on what to look for with this particular model if buying second/third/forth hand?

 Much appreciated 

 Paul


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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread William Kane

I had asked the seller a question on this one too, and recieved no
response.  Sent the question early on in the auction too . . . I'd
recoment iescrow or something . .. 

Illinois Bill

Donald Ross wrote:
 
 Hi Steve
 
 You're lucky he replied to you.  I introduced the link for this lens to the list 
under the
 'It's not fair' Subject line.  Someone wondered if this was a TAK or K mount so I 
decided to
 ask the seller.  I received no reply to the question.  I'm really curious as to the 
tripod.
 Let us know.
 
 Don
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
 
  Hi Don,
   The 0 feedback is scary, but he replied to all my emailed questions,
  so we`ll see.
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
  - Original Message -
  From: Donald Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:57 AM
  Subject: Re: I Won a Big one
 
 
   Congrats Steve
  
   I was watching that one too, but it was the 0 feedback that prevented me
  from jumping in.  Let
   us know how everything works out.
  
   Don
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
   Subject: I Won a Big one
  
  
Hi,
 I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
feedback, kind of scary.
 I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it
  (kidding).
No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
 Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
   
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RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: C41 BW



 Was the discoloured print going purple or bronze/shiny?


Aaron, did you read that article by Ctein a couple of years back
about RC paper and the bronzing problem? I am sure it was in a
Darkroom Techniques magazine, but I can't find the issue it was
in. I think he said the PolyMax RC paper was the only one not
prone to the problem.
William Robb



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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread Frank Theriault

Uh-oh.  If you notice my submission for May, it was shot (about 25 years
ago) on a Praktica, with a Soligor lens.  Nary a Pentax piece of
equipment to be seen.

My justification:

1.  I wanted to be a Pentax owner, but couldn't afford one at the time,
and I bought the cheaper Praktica, hoping to upgrade to screwmount
Pentaxes in time.  It only took me about 22 years!

2.  I am currently a Pentax User, so I figured I could squeeze this
one in on a technicality.

This will be an exception for me, as I doubt that I'll be submitting any
of my older piccies in the future;  I just really liked this one.
Thanks for not rejecting it this time, though!

regards,
frank

William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Thornsberry
 Subject: RE: Gallery Themes

 Based on numerouse ebay auctions I've seen for a  UV lens I
 recommend you get a Pentax UV lens (filter) to screw on to
 your 3rd party lenses and then you'll be legal--right?

 We went through this last year. The consensus was that since it
 was the PENTAX Users Gallery, the least we could ask of
 submitters is to use a major piece of Pentax equipment (ie: a
 camera or a lens) to make the images. So far, I haven't rejected
 any images for being shot on other brands, but I leave the
 possibility open that I will in the future.
 William Robb

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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread Rodger Whitlock

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 at 17:39:24 -0600, Dave Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I haven't submitted a picture to PUG yet... I haven't been
 excluded because of the Gallery Themes, I've been excluded because
 of a lack of talent and courage.  

Don't let lack of talent stop you. It hasn't stopped me. insert 
smiley Lack of courage can be cured with the stuff they sell at the 
local liquor store.

Here's a tip: select a picture that is not fully worthy, scan it
at high resolution, open it in your favorite graphics editor, and
then crop like mad.

One of the most common faults in photography (or should I say 
snapshooting?) is failure to get close enough to the subject. 
Cropping away the extraneous surround can go a long way toward 
turning a ho-hum photo into something not too bad, after the fact.

Besides, submitting to PUG will make you pay closer attention to what 
you see through the viewfinder.

Don't worry about criticism, if any. Even when your submission is 
bad-worse-worst, the criticism is always done with velvet gloves to 
prevent bruising of the ego.


-- 
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread Steve Larson

Lasse wrote:

 Congratulations Steve!

Thanks Lasse!

 It will be interesting to hear your reports from using it.
 
 What kind of shooting do you plan on using it for?

Birds mainly, but it does open doors to other things,
like aircraft (I`m close to Los Angeles International),
sneaking photos of my daughter and wife. I`ve been
using a 400mm 5.6 with a 2X (effective f11) quite a
bit lately, so f8 will seem a little brighter.
 Lasse
 
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: Buying an MX

2001-04-29 Thread Chris Brogden

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Paul wrote:

 I am thinking of buying an MX to complement my MZ-5n, have any of you
 guys any tips on what to look for with this particular model if buying
 second/third/forth hand?

Make sure that it's in good condition, has been CLA'd recently (or, if it
hasn't, that the price relfects this), and that it hasn't been used
excessively in its life.  I'm sure there are a lot them out there that
have have given years of faithful service without any problems, but I've
seen too many in bad shape to assume this.  Check the film advance to make
sure that it's smooth and working properly, as MX's seem to be prone to
film advance problems.  Wasn't someone on this list collecting all of our
MX comments?  Was that Mike?

chris

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Re: I Won a Big one

2001-04-29 Thread James Adams


- Original Message -
From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: I Won a Big one


 Hmmm...

 Just checked Keppler's The Asahi Pentax Way, and he says the lens weighs
10lb, but the tripod weighs almost 18.  But then, he mentions a metal one,
not wood

Could it have been Custom Built for the Police?

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread Michael Perham

Gary J Sibio wrote:

 Well, apparently a lot of people believe that faster is better - all
 other things being equal - because so few of them bought ISO 25 film
 that it wasn't worth it for the manufacturers to continue it.

The loss of K25 that is most distressing is not about fast Vs slow film,
but rather about color accuracy.  Many of today's E6 films have finer
grain and are sharper than old K25 but lack it's color accuracy.
Recently read an article by a fellow who makes a living chronicling
flower and plant species and he was making this point.  I have not used
K25 for some time now, because like most people I go for the bold,
larger than life, colors in my nature pictures.  For people pictures,
where accurate skin tones are important, I use negative film.

Cheers,  Mike.



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Re: C41 BW

2001-04-29 Thread tom

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 
 Was the discoloured print going purple or bronze/shiny?
 

I guess bronze would work. I'd say coppery orange? Burnt sienna? Where
is that box of crayolas?

I would be surprised if they hadn't properly washed it. They're pretty
anal and at least pay lip service to archivalness...they actually car
about what they do.

When I was talking to them about it they mentioned an unfavorable
Wilhelm report regarding RC that had come out in the last couple of
months. Wilhelm's site is undergoing a renovation at the moment. Did
anyone see or hear of this report?
  
tv
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Re: Pentax related news?

2001-04-29 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 21
Apr 2001 12:04:30 +0200
Read it? y
Rob wrote:


The 
 digital version, not due immediately, will be called the Pentax MR-52
 


What a weird and quite rotten name.

I'd guess they got a really bad fax of a press release and it's really
something like MD-S
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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread James Adams


- Original Message -

Dave Maki wrote:
I've been excluded because of a lack of talent and courage.

Rodger Whitlock Replied:

Don't let lack of talent stop you. It hasn't stopped me. insert smiley
Lack of courage can be cured with the stuff they sell at the local liquor
store.

Problem with liquid courage is you will probably need a strong tripod to
steady the camera to focus. if you are focusing without one on trees swaying
in a breeze, I suppose the secret is to get your sway in sync with the
trees!  Haha
James



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Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions

2001-04-29 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat,
21 Apr 2001 19:30:58 -0700
Read it? y
Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I
regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use
goes back to those times as well.  What about you?

My oldest is probably my Mamiya C3 6x6 TLR which they stopped making
in 1965.  It replaced my Seagull which is now functioning as a bookend
for my photography books.  I might get another one for the other site.
Looks nice.  :)

Oldest Pentax would be my ESII (which has no functioning meter, but is
still a nice machine) or my 6x7.

dave
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Re: New Zx10 model

2001-04-29 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 23
Apr 2001 08:46:00 -0400
Read it? y

Hey, the *original* ZX-10 was made by Kawasaki, not Pentax, and it went 160 mph!
(And they still make a ZX-7 that's even faster!)

Hmmph, my ZX-11 (ZZR-1100 in UK) would do 174mph.  I seem to recall
that the 0-60 mph time was under 2 seconds as well.  Part of the
advertising campaign was that it was faster to 60mph than a Formula 1
car...

dave
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Re: New Zx10 model

2001-04-29 Thread LEDMRVM

In a message dated 4/29/2001 12:38:24 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hey, the *original* ZX-10 was made by Kawasaki, not Pentax, and it went 
160 
 mph!
  (And they still make a ZX-7 that's even faster!)
  
  Hmmph, my ZX-11 (ZZR-1100 in UK) would do 174mph.  I seem to recall
  that the 0-60 mph time was under 2 seconds as well.  Part of the
  advertising campaign was that it was faster to 60mph than a Formula 1
  car...
  
  dave
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Was there a screw-mount adapter for it?
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Re: Buying an MX

2001-04-29 Thread Darren Tara Sutherland

I was looking for one for about 1 1/2 years.  It helped that I work in a
camera store as I had the opportunity to check out every used MX that came
in on trade.  I found that most had light leaks from the deteriorating foam
in the back.  A few had meter problems.  I had to shoot a least one roll of
film through each camera on my lunch breaks in sunny weather to identify if
light leakage was a problem.  Good luck.

Darren

-Original Message-
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: April 29, 2001 4:31 AM
Subject: Buying an MX


I am thinking of buying an MX to complement my MZ-5n, have any of you guys
any tips on what to look for with this particular model if buying
second/third/forth hand?

Much appreciated

Paul


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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Michael Perham
Subject: Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)



 The loss of K25 that is most distressing is not about fast Vs
slow film,
 but rather about color accuracy.

For me, the problem with losing Kodachrome (which is coming
soon) is that it is still the only completely archival colour
film.
William Robb

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread tom

William Robb wrote:
 
 For me, the problem with losing Kodachrome (which is coming
 soon) is that it is still the only completely archival colour
 film.

Unless you project it.

Didn't Kodak just update the K-14 process? Wouldn't that suggest it
might be around for a while? 

I like K64 for the way it looks. It's unique, that's why I would miss
it. 

Then again, I couldn't really complain since I haven't shot any in over
2 years.

tv
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Re: Ultrasonic motors crap?

2001-04-29 Thread David S.



Todd Stanley wrote:

 Not as bad as it sounds, that's 72,000 seconds.  Say it takes on average 1
 sec to focus (pretty conservatice I say), that's 72,000 focusing's, or
 2,000 rolls of 36 exposure film - that means it will probably last longer
 than those cheap plastic things those lenses attach to :)


I would think 20 hour life to be a very short life span.  A sports
photojournalist with the system in servo mode following the action could
probably burn out a motor in a season with that short an ultrasonic motor life
span.  It would also severely reduce the value of a used lens with an
ultrasonic motor.

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Re: New Zx10 model

2001-04-29 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:57:22 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Was there a screw-mount adapter for it?

Naw, it came that way from the factory. snarf





Later,
Gary


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Re: Good bye LX...

2001-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

It was written:
 
 David A. Mann wrote:
 
   I can only hope it's the Limited camera.
 
 That would be the only thing that would make this okay.
 
 -Aaron

Are we about to embark on another two year rumor parade?  What's the
Limited camera?
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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there are only good photographs.
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RE: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

It was a tongue in cheek comment.  I should have added one of those abbreviations like 
LOL or something.  I'm not recommending civil disobedience. LOL, :),etc.

-Original Message-
From:   William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Gallery Themes

 
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Thornsberry
Subject: RE: Gallery Themes


Based on numerouse ebay auctions I've seen for a  UV lens I
recommend you get a Pentax UV lens (filter) to screw on to
your 3rd party lenses and then you'll be legal--right?

We went through this last year. The consensus was that since it
was the PENTAX Users Gallery, the least we could ask of
submitters is to use a major piece of Pentax equipment (ie: a
camera or a lens) to make the images. So far, I haven't rejected
any images for being shot on other brands, but I leave the
possibility open that I will in the future.
William Robb



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 application/ms-tnef


Lens Cleaning

2001-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Just heard about these products.  Anyone familiar with them?

http://www.thegrid.net/joecodi/clearsight.html
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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there are only good photographs.
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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread Rofini

William Robb writes:

For me, the problem with losing Kodachrome
(which is coming soon) is that it is still the only
completely archival colour film.
William Robb

Absolutely. It's for this reason that I will feel worse for
losing Kodachrome than I do for seeing the LX discontinued.

By the way, your idea for an LX memorial gallery is an excellent
and appropriate one!

Mark Rofini

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: tom
Subject: Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)


 William Robb wrote:
 
  For me, the problem with losing Kodachrome (which is coming
  soon) is that it is still the only completely archival
colour
  film.

 Unless you project it.

Yup, an hour in a projector will kill the stuff. Make E-6 dupes
from the originals if you are going to do a lot of projection.

 Didn't Kodak just update the K-14 process? Wouldn't that
suggest it
 might be around for a while?


Don't know. I know they modified it for the K Labs, which is a
type of minilab film processor. I am really just repeating what
I have heard from the Kodak film rep that supplies my store.
William Robb



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Re: Good bye LX...

2001-04-29 Thread Steve Larson




 Are we about to embark on another two year rumor parade?  What's the
 Limited camera?
 -- 
 Shel Belinkoff
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


It`s the new LXII with a spot metering viewfinder. Is this a dream?
If it was available, would you buy it? I would.
Steve Larson
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Re: LX and FP flash sync

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Gerald F. Cermak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 28, 2001 5:55 PM
Subject: LX and FP flash sync


 I don't have an LX manual (note to self: call Pentax USA and
order one).
 Does anyone know if the LX, when firing a flash bulb using the
FP jack, will
 auto-exposure since it meters off the film?  I know flash bulb
durations are
 fixed around 20-50mS (1/50-1/20s) with a specific delay
requiring
 pre-firing.  The shutter/meter can respond quicker than that
duration, so it
 seems possible the LX can auto-expose the flash duration and
cut off the
 light by closing the shutter when there is enough.  But does
it really do
 that in practice?  I'd hate to waste a pile of flashbulbs
running
 experiments.

It's an interesting idea. The owners manual doesn't address it.
If the camera can respond quickly enough, then in theory it
should work. You might have to waste a flashbulb to find out
though.
William Robb


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Re: Konica Monochrome

2001-04-29 Thread Flavio Minelli

Hello Shel,

you can check here:
http://space.tin.it/arte/flamin/alessia.html
The film is printed nicely on color paper at my local lab where they use
a Konica minilab but on BW paper is really fine.
You have to try it.


Flavio
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Re: LX and FP flash sync

2001-04-29 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

William Robb writes:

 From: Gerald F. Cermak [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I don't have an LX manual (note to self: call Pentax USA and
 order one).
  Does anyone know if the LX, when firing a flash bulb using the
 FP jack, will
  auto-exposure since it meters off the film?  I know flash bulb
 durations are
  fixed around 20-50mS (1/50-1/20s) with a specific delay
 requiring
  pre-firing.  The shutter/meter can respond quicker than that
 duration, so it
  seems possible the LX can auto-expose the flash duration and
 cut off the
  light by closing the shutter when there is enough.  But does
 it really do
  that in practice?  I'd hate to waste a pile of flashbulbs
 running
  experiments.

 It's an interesting idea. The owners manual doesn't address it.
 If the camera can respond quickly enough, then in theory it
 should work. You might have to waste a flashbulb to find out
 though.
 William Robb

Hehehehe.  It works!  (at least by monitoring shutter speed sound - I'll get
the film developed today or tomorrow).

I attached a Tilt-a-Mite to my LX with K50/1.2 set to auto, put in an M2B
(saving my cases of 11Bs and 22Bs for other projects).  When I set the
aperture to f/1.2 in a darkened room, meter reads 1/15 sec for 800 ISO.
Fire - seems faster than 1/15 (maybe 1/60-1/100).  I set the aperture to
f/8, and read ~4sec for exposure, another M2B, and the shutter closes at the
same rate as in the first shot (1/60-1/100s).  Amazing camera.  :)  I think
I might need to get another LX just for this feature alone as only a OTF
metering system could accomplish this feat.  I'm enabled.

Cheers,
Gerald




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Couple of pix with SMCT 120mm F2.8

2001-04-29 Thread J. C. O'Connell

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/120LENS.HTM

JCO
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re: Lens cleaning

2001-04-29 Thread Bob Keefer

Yes, well, knowing nothing else about it, when I see the words chelating,
hypoallergenic and biodegradable side by side in one ad for a lens
cleaner, I start to think smoke and mirrors.

Why not titanium fibers as well?

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Limited camera (WAS: Good bye LX...)

2001-04-29 Thread Pål Jensen

Shel wrote:

 Are we about to embark on another two year rumor parade?  What's the
 Limited camera?


I believe the Limited camera is the MZ-1 (I could be wrong of course). Firstly , there 
will be an MZ-1 (at least one is planned); It's pretty obvious. 
The MZ-S is, as I understand it, a spin-off of the digital MZ-D. This may seem like 
a film version of a digital camera but its more complicated than that. What I believe 
happened (and is happening) is that Pentax decided to make a digital slr based on 
their modular upper end camera platform then in progress. Developing of the digital 
version was probably hurried due to the increase in digital camera sales. This has 
most likely messed up things somewhat and paved the way for the MZ-S. 

The Pentax upper level camera platform is likely designed around the same philosophy 
as the MZ-series; that is a highly modular and flexible camera platform where several 
models can share all vital internal parts but still come through as very different 
cameras. Eg. they share shutter which can be had in 1/6000s max or a high strung 
version with 1/8000s; Film transport is obviously modular since the MZ-D does 
without it; circuitry board is probably the same on all incarnations - different 
features set can be activated - different interfaces can be adopted; body is diecast 
and its easy to make a totally different body for different interpretations of the 
platform.  The system is probably designed for flexible production and can probably 
sustain low production volumes and niche models. 

Because all K-mount Pentax users are potential customers for a K-mount digital slr, 
its likely that Pentax choose a camera with an interface that fuses the philosophy 
between all the older K-mount slr's in order to try to appeal to as many Pentax users 
as possible; the MZ-D(S) is fundamentally a cross between an MZ-3 and a Z-1p. Somebody 
at some point decided that the fusion between new and old Pentax values wasn't just 
something for a digital slr but also a fine idea for a film based camera - the MZ-S. 
It was most likely also a means to fill the hole after the Z-1p and the LX quickly. 
Its also very likely a meeting point (and a bridge product) between the extremes of 
Pentax future line-up as well. Hence the MZ-1 - the conservative and small pro grade 
camera. Its quite obvious that such an MZ-1 won't have 5fps motordrive etc. simply 
because the MZ-name signify small size. Also, its obvious that the MZ-1 won't be MZ-S 
like. So its most likely conservative. Whats more, those who will stay with film the 
longest are probably the traditionalists; hence, the MZ-1. 
For those who want 5fps etc. the platform will be used for a larger camera that is 
possibly named something with the letter S (S-1?; hence MZ-S - the meeting point 
between MZ-series and S (series?)). This camera will be feature laden and most likely 
be the conceptual Z-1p sucessor (not direct sucessor; as it will cost way more) and 
adopt Z-1 style interface. The MZ-S will be a perfect back-up camera for this model. 

I believe what we're seing here is quite oposite philosophy than behind the LX. The LX 
was time consuming and expensive to make but gave the user all kinds of LX system 
accesories to custom their camera. What we may see now is more customisation directly 
from the factory which is probably cheaper. Its niche marketing at work. Anyway, both 
the Limited lenses and the MZ-S shown that Pentax thinks niche and that their product 
are more precisely targeted than ever.

This is of course pure speculation and most likely total nonsense but is still based 
on (some) facts and also consistent with the reliable part of the rumor mill, but 
don't bet on it. Buy an MZ-S. Much probably depend on the way its received.

[Its uncler whether Pentax will choose to use the upper level platform for an 
MZ-{number} camera. I believe its likley. They could though, let the MZ-1 be the 
upgraded MZ-3. That is, another plastic MZ style camera. Anyway, there will be an MZ 
camera above the MZ-3 within a year (maybe this year). It will be interesting to see 
wether this will be the MZ-4, 2 or 1.] 


Pål


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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread Lasse Karlsson

William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Lasse Karlsson 
 Subject: Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)
 
  Shel wrote.
 
   It can certainly be a problem at times, and to attach a
 filter after
   preparing for the shot is the most ridiculous suggestion
 I've heard
   in ages
 
  What do you photograph that allow you to do something
   like this?
 
  Why don't you ask this question first, before you pass a
 judgement on a suggestion that you obviously do not understand?
 
 Because the suggestion was ridiculous in the first place. If you
 are going to apply large format techniques to a small format
 camera, you are using the wrong format camera.

You are presenting one of the most ridiculous arguments I've heard for a very, very 
long time.
In fact I can't even remember when I last encountered anything like it.

And after thinking it over a couple of times, I have now concluded that it is even 
more ridiculous than I first thought.

Lasse (adjusting to the level of reasoning already set by previous posters in this 
thread.).

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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread Rob Studdert

On 29 Apr 2001, at 9:47, James Adams wrote:

 Problem with liquid courage is you will probably need a strong tripod to
 steady the camera to focus. if you are focusing without one on trees swaying
 in a breeze, I suppose the secret is to get your sway in sync with the
 trees!  Haha

I have found quite the contrary, after a few beers any shots that I have made 
in dark dingy pubs seem to be inordinately shake free, I can't say how they'd 
be after the tenth though ;-D

Cheers,

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Lasse Karlsson 
Subject: Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)


 William Robb wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Lasse Karlsson 
  Subject: Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)
 
   Shel wrote.
  
It can certainly be a problem at times, and to attach a
  filter after
preparing for the shot is the most ridiculous suggestion
  I've heard
in ages
  
   What do you photograph that allow you to do something
like this?
  
   Why don't you ask this question first, before you pass a
  judgement on a suggestion that you obviously do not
understand?

  Because the suggestion was ridiculous in the first place. If
you
  are going to apply large format techniques to a small format
  camera, you are using the wrong format camera.

 You are presenting one of the most ridiculous arguments I've
heard for a very, very long time.
 In fact I can't even remember when I last encountered anything
like it.

 And after thinking it over a couple of times, I have now
concluded that it is even more ridiculous than I first thought.

 Lasse (adjusting to the level of reasoning already set by
previous posters in this thread.).

Thats ridiculous.G
William Robb

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Re: Limited camera (WAS: Good bye LX...)

2001-04-29 Thread Creature's Comfort

I knew i could count on you to jump in g.

Pål Jensen wrote:
 
 Shel wrote:
 
  Are we about to embark on another two year rumor parade?  What's the
  Limited camera?
 
 I believe the Limited camera is the MZ-1 (I could be wrong of course). Firstly , 
there will be an MZ-1 (at least one is planned); It's pretty obvious.
 The MZ-S is, as I understand it, a spin-off of the digital MZ-D. This may seem 
like a film version of a digital camera but its more complicated than that. What I 
believe happened (and is happening) is that Pentax decided to make a digital slr 
based on their modular upper end camera platform then in progress. Developing of the 
digital version was probably hurried due to the increase in digital camera sales. 
This has most likely messed up things somewhat and paved the way for the MZ-S.
 
 The Pentax upper level camera platform is likely designed around the same philosophy 
as the MZ-series; that is a highly modular and flexible camera platform where several 
models can share all vital internal parts but still come through as very different 
cameras. Eg. they share shutter which can be had in 1/6000s max or a high strung 
version with 1/8000s; Film transport is obviously modular since the MZ-D does 
without it; circuitry board is probably the same on all incarnations - different 
features set can be activated - different interfaces can be adopted; body is diecast 
and its easy to make a totally different body for different interpretations of the 
platform.  The system is probably designed for flexible production and can probably 
sustain low production volumes and niche models.
 
 Because all K-mount Pentax users are potential customers for a K-mount digital slr, 
its likely that Pentax choose a camera with an interface that fuses the philosophy 
between all the older K-mount slr's in order to try to appeal to as many Pentax users 
as possible; the MZ-D(S) is fundamentally a cross between an MZ-3 and a Z-1p. 
Somebody at some point decided that the fusion between new and old Pentax values 
wasn't just something for a digital slr but also a fine idea for a film based camera 
- the MZ-S. It was most likely also a means to fill the hole after the Z-1p and the 
LX quickly. Its also very likely a meeting point (and a bridge product) between the 
extremes of Pentax future line-up as well. Hence the MZ-1 - the conservative and 
small pro grade camera. Its quite obvious that such an MZ-1 won't have 5fps 
motordrive etc. simply because the MZ-name signify small size. Also, its obvious that 
the MZ-1 won't be MZ-S like. So its most likely conservative. Whats more, those w!
ho!
  will stay with film the longest are probably the traditionalists; hence, the MZ-1.
 For those who want 5fps etc. the platform will be used for a larger camera that is 
possibly named something with the letter S (S-1?; hence MZ-S - the meeting point 
between MZ-series and S (series?)). This camera will be feature laden and most likely 
be the conceptual Z-1p sucessor (not direct sucessor; as it will cost way more) and 
adopt Z-1 style interface. The MZ-S will be a perfect back-up camera for this model.
 
 I believe what we're seing here is quite oposite philosophy than behind the LX. The 
LX was time consuming and expensive to make but gave the user all kinds of LX system 
accesories to custom their camera. What we may see now is more customisation directly 
from the factory which is probably cheaper. Its niche marketing at work. Anyway, both 
the Limited lenses and the MZ-S shown that Pentax thinks niche and that their product 
are more precisely targeted than ever.
 
 This is of course pure speculation and most likely total nonsense but is still based 
on (some) facts and also consistent with the reliable part of the rumor mill, but 
don't bet on it. Buy an MZ-S. Much probably depend on the way its received.
 
 [Its uncler whether Pentax will choose to use the upper level platform for an 
MZ-{number} camera. I believe its likley. They could though, let the MZ-1 be the 
upgraded MZ-3. That is, another plastic MZ style camera. Anyway, there will be an MZ 
camera above the MZ-3 within a year (maybe this year). It will be interesting to see 
wether this will be the MZ-4, 2 or 1.]
 
 Pål
 
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OT: Audio Driver

2001-04-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

I'm using a Creative AudioPCI 5000 (9618, 1571 chip).
Lost my CD.  Need a copy.  Anyone got one?

Tx,

Collin

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New Lens Series?

2001-04-29 Thread Grigolia

 I was rereading the Pentax PMA 2001 Press Release for the MZ-S.  And I 
keep coming back to one paragraph that begins: Along with the launch of the 
MZ-S, Asahi Optical will also introduce a selection of new lenses and 
accessories to optimize the MZ-S performance.
 As far as I've heard, the only new lens designed for the MZ-S is the new 
24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 zoom lens.  Any rumors, speculation, or pure guess work on 
what these new lenses may be or when they may be announced?
 If I remember correctly, Photography Day in Japan comes up on either 
June 1st or July 1st.  Could we expect word at that time?
 Alexander Grigolia
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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-29 Thread Ed Dombek

--- Bill D. Casselberry wrote:

 I am hard-pressed to believe that themed entries are
 even screened for relevance as things stand now. 
 Included in every themed gallery I can recall have 
 been several images which I have been totally unable
 to relate to the theme. No big fuss was made in 
 this reversed situation - so why worry now?


This seems like it should be a trivial matter but may I offer a simple suggestion?  
Why not add a dividing line on the gallery page to separate out themed and 
un-themed submissions?  The title, equipment used and media information is required, 
it would be just as easy to add a field to indicate whether the submission was 
intended for the monthly theme.

Ed

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